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Title: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 15, 2009, 12:26:07 pm
There must be a few people here who drink something a cut above PBR, no?

What beers are you currently enjoying?

I'm really digging this:
(http://legalbeer.com/images/founders%20breakfast%20stout.jpg)

And after a stop at their brewery in Cooperstown, NY, i'm enjoying the mix pack from Ommegang. Especially love the Ommegang Ale.

(https://secure5.worldaxxs.net/ssl.ommegang.com/graphics/graphics/00000005/ultimix.jpg)



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: paul3mac on October 15, 2009, 01:15:12 pm
I've been really loving the Lagunitas beers

(http://mustlovebeer.com/uploads_user/1000/1/700.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3508/3460328347_394d18494f.jpg?v=0)
(http://fridaynightbeer.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dsc06877.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2489/3895457902_2894fe75c7.jpg)
(http://ontap.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/lagunitas.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: chaz on October 15, 2009, 01:21:36 pm
I used to enjoy their "Shutdown Ale".  9.7%!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 15, 2009, 01:47:03 pm
i'm a big fan of this one. . .

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/3150726704_af1ce97a87.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on October 15, 2009, 01:50:02 pm
Yeah, that's good.  I had that while out in Napa this summer.

Quote from: Venerable Bede on October 15, 2009, 01:47:03 pm
i'm a big fan of this one. . .

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/3150726704_af1ce97a87.jpg)


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Driveway on October 15, 2009, 02:08:51 pm
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/251589699_e89d7764c2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 15, 2009, 02:10:54 pm
I picked up some Stoudts in Rading PA this week and am looking forward to trying it out

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/3151665404_db7867fea8.jpg?v=0)

(http://bensbeerblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/stoudttriple.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 15, 2009, 02:36:41 pm
Love the hops...my vote for Bells two hearted ale, stone IPA, and the greenflash west coast IPA....but i did hear the the Pliny is  tremendous...btw lagunitas is nice as well
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hemisphire on October 15, 2009, 02:46:00 pm
These were all tasty, really liked the Sah'tea, like a chai beer:
(http://photos.hemisphire.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=9016&g2_serialNumber=2)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 15, 2009, 03:30:11 pm
Right now, I'm a Post Road Pumpkin Ale Girl.  I also really love the 250th Anniversary Guinness.  Tasty.

Don't believe people when they tell you that the Southern Tier Creme Brulee Stout is good.

I have not had a bad beer yet from Laguinitas.  Anyone else collecting the Frank Zappa brews they make?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: bluec on October 15, 2009, 08:04:57 pm
Quote from: BAGLEY on October 15, 2009, 02:36:41 pm
Love the hops...my vote for Bells two hearted ale, stone IPA, and the greenflash west coast IPA....but i did hear the the Pliny is  tremendous...btw lagunitas is nice as well

3 of my favorites, along with Stone Ruination.  I have been drinking the Dogfish Punkins like water lately.  My go-to recently has been Sierra Nevada Anniversary, mainly b/c of the price.   Also, I always have some of these stouts in the fridge:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3581/3457629700_75e481116b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2277/2305712503_d294525949.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chip Chanko on October 16, 2009, 12:43:40 am
Sierra Nevada Harvest Wet Hop and Penn Kaiser Pils.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2009, 10:22:30 am
sleeman's cream ale... damn i miss the stuff.

(http://www.gallibeer.com/images/cream-botCan.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: lagas on October 16, 2009, 10:33:13 am
Kunstmann beer of Chile is one of the best...unfortunately, I don't think you can get it in the US

(http://www.terra.cl/turanking/fotos/listas/preguntas/Kunstmann_Bock.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ardamus on October 17, 2009, 11:22:47 am
going into DC9 got me hooked on Troegs
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zikSxOpljDc/SZ18ippQFDI/AAAAAAAAAOU/vuhAnPql_BY/s400/Troegs+Hop+Back+Amber+Ale+09.JPG)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: thirsty moore on October 17, 2009, 12:31:01 pm
Commonwealth in Columbia Heights has a great cask ale that I drink. It's hands down my favorite beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 17, 2009, 01:16:50 pm
Quote from: paul3mac on October 15, 2009, 01:15:12 pm
I've been really loving the Lagunitas beers
 
i was at RFD's last night before the AC/DC show, had the Lagunatas A Little Sumpin' Extra! Ale (http://www.lagunitas.com/pdfs/LittleSumpin-ExtraAle.pdf) on tap.  mild wheat + perfect hops + hint of pine = DELISH.  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/52077
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 17, 2009, 02:24:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2009, 01:16:50 pm
Quote from: paul3mac on October 15, 2009, 01:15:12 pm
I've been really loving the Lagunitas beers
 
i was at RFD's last night before the AC/DC show, had the Lagunatas A Little Sumpin' Extra! Ale (http://www.lagunitas.com/pdfs/LittleSumpin-ExtraAle.pdf) on tap.  mild wheat + perfect hops + hint of pine = DELISH.  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/52077
yup, downed 3 of these babies after work at the Big Hunt yesterday - good stuff
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ardamus on October 17, 2009, 05:51:14 pm
Anyone like Peroni?

(http://www.steezology.com/images/peroni.jpg)

Shock Top?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/SR0Db_h6gCI/AAAAAAAADEo/2e01CC3Y7do/s400/Shock+Top+5.JPG)

Or if you're broke....PBR?

(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Linkman81/PabstBlueRibbon.png)



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 17, 2009, 06:14:41 pm
Quote from: Ardamus on October 17, 2009, 05:51:14 pm
Anyone like Peroni?
 
does nothing special for me, it's a light summer-time beer IMO.  tastes better in italy, because everything tastes better there. 

Quote from: Ardamus on October 17, 2009, 05:51:14 pm
Shock Top?

i'm a big fan of wheat beers so i was excited when i heard about this... but it gets a "meh".  a little too sweet.

Quote from: Ardamus on October 17, 2009, 05:51:14 pm
Or if you're broke....PBR?

the official beer of indie rock.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 17, 2009, 07:35:38 pm
I started taking my wine seriously so I stopped taking my beer seriously....

(http://scottbrandolfski.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/d978miller-high-life-brew-posters.jpg?w=351&h=450)

Therefore, I live the High Life...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 17, 2009, 07:53:25 pm
Quote from: bluec on October 15, 2009, 08:04:57 pm
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2277/2305712503_d294525949.jpg?v=0)

Had one of these (below) a couple months ago and felt kind of nausous for 3 days afterwards. Not from the alcohol but something about the mix itself. Tasted okay but just didn't sit well with me. For what it's worth, I wouldn't take that as an indictment on the beer though because lots of beers are like that for me. Best if I stick with either really bland lighter tasting (not to be confused with 'lite') beers or stouts. All those in betweens can be risky.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3520/3717521378_63826d7da1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on October 18, 2009, 12:13:33 pm
My current favorite:

Ayinger Celebrator Doppelbock

(http://www.toddisrad.com/resources/Celebrator+Dopplebock.jpg)

I'm a big fan of all of Ayinger's beers. Ditto for Erdinger and Franziskanner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 10:07:04 am
So i'm thinking of going to the Dupont Paradiso for happy hour this week. I have a top three of what's on tap, of which I plan on choosing two. What would you pick?


Dupont Draft Menu:

Coniston Blue Bird Bitter
21st Ammendment Back in Black
Saison Dupont
Bells Expedition
Trip Karmeliet
Hitachino White
Duchesse de Bourgogne
North Coast Red Seal
Corsendonk Brown
Dogfish Head Punkin
Gulden Draak
St Louis Frambroise
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: paul3mac on October 20, 2009, 11:10:08 am
based on my personal tastes preferences, I'd probably go for...

21st Ammendment Back in Black
North Coast Red Seal
Coniston Blue Bird Bitter


Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 10:07:04 am
So i'm thinking of going to the Dupont Paradiso for happy hour this week. I have a top three of what's on tap, of which I plan on choosing two. What would you pick?


Dupont Draft Menu:

Coniston Blue Bird Bitter
21st Ammendment Back in Black
Saison Dupont
Bells Expedition
Trip Karmeliet
Hitachino White
Duchesse de Bourgogne
North Coast Red Seal
Corsendonk Brown
Dogfish Head Punkin
Gulden Draak
St Louis Frambroise
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: eros on October 20, 2009, 11:11:29 am
I'm finding out as I get older that it's getting harder and harder to bounce back after drinking these heavy and hoppy beers.  I grabbed a six of some Smuttynose Pumpkin ale last week...drank ONE and felt like someone had crapped in my mouth the next morning.

Fortunately, a kind distributor has decided to start bringing Strongbow into the suburban wasteland of NoVA.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Mex_251.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: chaz on October 20, 2009, 11:26:14 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 10:07:04 am
So i'm thinking of going to the Dupont Paradiso for happy hour this week. I have a top three of what's on tap, of which I plan on choosing two. What would you pick?


Dupont Draft Menu:

Coniston Blue Bird Bitter
21st Ammendment Back in Black
Saison Dupont
Bells Expedition
Trip Karmeliet
Hitachino White
Duchesse de Bourgogne
North Coast Red Seal
Corsendonk Brown
Dogfish Head Punkin
Gulden Draak
St Louis Frambroise

Saison Dupont
Saison Dupont
Saison Dupont
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: smakawhat on October 20, 2009, 01:27:51 pm
Can't go wrong with Dogfish.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 20, 2009, 01:57:16 pm
dogfish head pumpkin ale is absolutely delicious, if you don't mind a little sweet in your beer.  i've generally been impressed with 21st Ammendment's offerings, although i haven't tasted "back in black".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 02:22:52 pm
This is the best pumpkin beer I've had. Better than Dogfish. This is definitely more pumpkin-y than Dogfish Punkin, whose pumpkin flavor to me is more subtle. I had a sample at my local Whole Foods, but they said they're out and may not get more. Anybody seen it anywhere in the NoVA burbs or DC?

(http://www.fermentnation.com/pics/southerntier_pumking.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 20, 2009, 02:59:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 02:22:52 pm
This is the best pumpkin beer I've had. Better than Dogfish. This is definitely more pumpkin-y than Dogfish Punkin, whose pumpkin flavor to me is more subtle. I had a sample at my local Whole Foods, but they said they're out and may not get more. Anybody seen it anywhere in the NoVA burbs or DC?

(http://www.fermentnation.com/pics/southerntier_pumking.jpg)

Ummm, I'd like to try that.

Is the Dogfish version anything like regular Dogfish? I can't stand that stuff! It just tastes too strong, bitter and nasty for me and makes me sick.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 03:25:19 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on October 20, 2009, 02:59:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 02:22:52 pm
This is the best pumpkin beer I've had. Better than Dogfish. This is definitely more pumpkin-y than Dogfish Punkin, whose pumpkin flavor to me is more subtle. I had a sample at my local Whole Foods, but they said they're out and may not get more. Anybody seen it anywhere in the NoVA burbs or DC?

(http://www.fermentnation.com/pics/southerntier_pumking.jpg)

Ummm, I'd like to try that.

Is the Dogfish version anything like regular Dogfish? I can't stand that stuff! It just tastes too strong, bitter and nasty for me and makes me sick.

What is "regular Dogfish"? They make eight year round beers, four seasonals, and 13 occasional rarities.

Are you referring to the 90 minute IPA? That is very hoppy, with 60 IBU. Their Punkin beer is 24 IBU, so it's bound to be less bitter. Don't know the IBU for Pumking, but surely something comparable to the Punkin, not the 90 minute.

And no, I didn't pull these numbers out of my head, I used the google.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 20, 2009, 03:50:09 pm
Never realized that they made so many. After looking at their site, I'm pretty sure it's the 60. It was awhile ago. Which ever kind that you will sometimes see around in the minor liquor stores that only stock one choice as that's all I ever see around here. Don't pay much attention to it since I remember how disgusted I was from it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 03:57:20 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on October 20, 2009, 03:50:09 pm
Never realized that they made so many. After looking at their site, I think it may have been the 60 but might have been the 90. It was awhile ago. Which ever kind that you will sometimes see around in the minor liquor stores that only stock one choice as that's all I ever see around here. Don't pay much attention to it since I remember how disgusted I was from it.

If what you're seeing is in six packs, my guess is that it's the 60 Minute. If it's in four packs, then most likely the 90 Minute. If the 60 Minute disgusts you, the 90 Minute will probably be much worse.

We recently served this one to a female friend who doesn't usually care for beer, and she liked it quite a bit.

http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/black-blue.htm

Random fact: jon Langford of Mekons/Waco Brothers fame designed the Dogfish Burton Baton beer label, as well as some other Dogfish labels...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hemisphire on October 20, 2009, 04:19:43 pm
Up at the Cambridge Brewing Company on Saturday, their pumpkin ale was pretty good, but their O.P.P. (Olde Pumpkin Porter) was outstanding, a mix of a pumpkin ale and a porter. I am so down with it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 20, 2009, 04:48:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 03:57:20 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on October 20, 2009, 03:50:09 pm
Never realized that they made so many. After looking at their site, I think it may have been the 60 but might have been the 90. It was awhile ago. Which ever kind that you will sometimes see around in the minor liquor stores that only stock one choice as that's all I ever see around here. Don't pay much attention to it since I remember how disgusted I was from it.

If what you're seeing is in six packs, my guess is that it's the 60 Minute. If it's in four packs, then most likely the 90 Minute. If the 60 Minute disgusts you, the 90 Minute will probably be much worse.

We recently served this one to a female friend who doesn't usually care for beer, and she liked it quite a bit.

http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/black-blue.htm

Random fact: jon Langford of Mekons/Waco Brothers fame designed the Dogfish Burton Baton beer label, as well as some other Dogfish labels...



After thinking about it a bit, it was definitely the 60. I remember the green in the lable. Nasty!!!

Didn't know about how to rate the hopps (or whatever it's rating) so your info was helpful.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 21, 2009, 12:44:30 am
Drinking one of these now.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YXEecWSDy7g/Slj2-GCESjI/AAAAAAAAAwo/wJ7qT8wCFDI/s1600/TetleysAle.jpg)

Ah, that 'smooth flow'!  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 21, 2009, 08:15:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 10:07:04 am
So i'm thinking of going to the Dupont Paradiso for happy hour this week. I have a top three of what's on tap, of which I plan on choosing two. What would you pick?


Dupont Draft Menu:

Coniston Blue Bird Bitter
21st Ammendment Back in Black
Saison Dupont
Bells Expedition
Trip Karmeliet
Hitachino White
Duchesse de Bourgogne
North Coast Red Seal
Corsendonk Brown
Dogfish Head Punkin
Gulden Draak
St Louis Frambroise


So I went yesterday. One of my goals with their half price happy hour is to have beers that might be out of my normal comfort zone, cost wise. Hence, the Corsendonk Brown and Gulden Draak were at the top of my list.

I had the Corsendonk Brown first. I'm a big fan of the Belgian dubbel style, and I'd highly enjoyed this beer before. Though it didn't exactly go with the pizza that I was sharing with a friend (though it paired arguably better than the Bell's Expedition (Imperial Stout) that he was drinking), it was quite tasty.

Second, we tried a taste of the Gulden Draak. It's called a dark trippel. I was thinking it would look like a dark beer, but by "dark" they meant it was reddish rather than golden. We both agreed it was good, but maybe a little too sweet.

So I opted for the imperial stout for my second beer. At 10.5% alcohol, it packs a wallop. I'm a big fan of Old Rasputin, and though the Bell's was good, it fell a little short of Old Rasputin, for me. My friend opted for the Back in Black, which turned out the be an interesting black IPA.

I also considered the Punkin and the Saison Dupont, but two is about all I can handle of these big alcohol beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 21, 2009, 09:13:45 am
whoah - its a 1/2 price happy hour?? what did those beers end up running you? and to think I've been wasting my time at the Big Hunt, which incidentally has a beer selection, on draught at least, to rival PP's
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 21, 2009, 09:35:07 am
If you like hops-the Greenflash west coast IPA @ Big Hunt is hard to beat
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on October 21, 2009, 11:22:54 am
Another good Fall beer as an alternative to the pumpkins...
Abita's Pecan Harvest Ale
(http://www.abita.com/images/page_graphics/brews/bottles_six_packs/pecan_bottle_six_pack_rays.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 21, 2009, 11:29:20 am
I haven't been to the Big Hunt for many years, but I feel like I'd be the olderst person there by at least ten years.

Any thoughts on Cap City beers? Thinking of hitting the one in Shilrlington. Of those I can remember, the Porter is ok, the Pumpkin is good, and the Fuel is very good. Anybody had the Bourbon Stout?


Capitol Kölsch
Amber Waves
Pale Rider
Prohibition Porter
Cask Ale
Organic Wit
Fuel
Oktoberfest
Pumpkinator
Organic Trippel
Oak Aged Bourbon Stout
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 21, 2009, 12:07:26 pm
you'd be surprised - obviously a fair few young 'uns but a few old fogies like myself (and older)

Quote from: James Ford on October 21, 2009, 11:29:20 am
I haven't been to the Big Hunt for many years, but I feel like I'd be the olderst person there by at least ten years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on October 21, 2009, 04:09:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 21, 2009, 11:29:20 am
I haven't been to the Big Hunt for many years, but I feel like I'd be the olderst person there by at least ten years.

Any thoughts on Cap City beers? Thinking of hitting the one in Shilrlington. Of those I can remember, the Porter is ok, the Pumpkin is good, and the Fuel is very good. Anybody had the Bourbon Stout?


Forget all this Big Hunt and Cap City talk.
Birch & Barley/Churchkey is finally opening this week!
500 beers with 50 draft and 5 hand pump cask ales.
The 'beer organ' is a thing of beauty.
http://amandamc.blogspot.com/2009/10/birch-barley-churchkey-open-thursday.html (http://amandamc.blogspot.com/2009/10/birch-barley-churchkey-open-thursday.html)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 21, 2009, 04:41:36 pm
Quote from: slappy on October 21, 2009, 04:09:47 pm
Birch & Barley/Churchkey is finally opening this week!
500 beers with 50 draft and 5 hand pump cask ales.
The 'beer organ' is a thing of beauty.
http://amandamc.blogspot.com/2009/10/birch-barley-churchkey-open-thursday.html (http://amandamc.blogspot.com/2009/10/birch-barley-churchkey-open-thursday.html)

huh.  didn't know that the dakota cowgirl had closed...

edit: looks like the cowgirl has been closed for over a year.  i used to live about 500 feet away from it, loved their bison burger.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 21, 2009, 05:43:16 pm
Thanks for the heads up Slappy, heard it was coming.  Look forward to many nites ahead worshipping at the sacred alter of the exalted brewmeister.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ardamus on October 21, 2009, 09:17:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2009, 06:14:41 pm
Quote from: Ardamus on October 17, 2009, 05:51:14 pm
Anyone like Peroni?
 
does nothing special for me, it's a light summer-time beer IMO.  tastes better in italy, because everything tastes better there. 

Quote from: Ardamus on October 17, 2009, 05:51:14 pm
Shock Top?

i'm a big fan of wheat beers so i was excited when i heard about this... but it gets a "meh".  a little too sweet.

Quote from: Ardamus on October 17, 2009, 05:51:14 pm
Or if you're broke....PBR?

the official beer of indie rock.

I've only had Peroni at two places. I don't see it around too much.

Shock Top, I got at a cornerstore. For a beer thats made by Michelob, I would think they would be everywhere.

PBR is definitely the indie rock beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 22, 2009, 07:52:04 am
Peroni is the Budweiser of Italy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Barcelona on October 22, 2009, 04:15:47 pm
Parbo, the beer from Suriname is quite good.

(http://www.parbobier.com/data/bier_plaatje/export2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: miss pretentious on October 22, 2009, 06:14:25 pm
i actually prefer this one to the dogfish head punkin ale.
it's made by the brooklyn brewery.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3485/4018548078_824b64f162_m.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 22, 2009, 06:55:58 pm
Quote from: miss pretentious on October 22, 2009, 06:14:25 pm
i actually prefer this one to the dogfish head punkin ale.
it's made by the brooklyn brewery.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3485/4018548078_824b64f162_m.jpg)

Not to be contrary, but hated the medicinal aftertaste on that one. Maybe we got ahold of a bad bottle.

Their Oktoberfest beer was pretty boring too, Byt then again, aren't all Oktoberfest beers boring?

Their black choclate stout is dangerously good though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grover.37 on October 23, 2009, 11:17:37 am
Quote from: brennser on October 21, 2009, 09:13:45 am
whoah - its a 1/2 price happy hour?? what did those beers end up running you? and to think I've been wasting my time at the Big Hunt, which incidentally has a beer selection, on draught at least, to rival PP's

It's only on Tuesday and Wednesday from 5-7p.  Most beers run 6-9$ so that's a steep discount on some rare/expensive stuff.

The new location in Dupont is nice but smaller than the Georgetown location (the tiny bars are about the same size).  They also only have about half as many draft selections.  It's still worth visiting and definitely more convenient than going to Georgetown (ugh). 



Quote from: James Ford on October 21, 2009, 11:29:20 am
I haven't been to the Big Hunt for many years, but I feel like I'd be the olderst person there by at least ten years.

Any thoughts on Cap City beers? Thinking of hitting the one in Shilrlington. Of those I can remember, the Porter is ok, the Pumpkin is good, and the Fuel is very good. Anybody had the Bourbon Stout?


Capitol Kölsch
Amber Waves
Pale Rider
Prohibition Porter
Cask Ale
Organic Wit
Fuel
Oktoberfest
Pumpkinator
Organic Trippel
Oak Aged Bourbon Stout

I'm a big fan of Cap City but I may be biased due to its location inside the building of my place of work (Postal Museum - Capital Hill / Union Station location).  You are about right on their best beers - porter, fuel - but I've never had the Bourbon Stout.  The Wit is worth trying if you liek that kind of beer.  I found the Tripel to be very underwhelming.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 23, 2009, 11:40:29 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 22, 2009, 06:55:58 pm
Their black choclate stout is dangerously good though.

Impossible to exaggerate how good that beer is.

Question for the experts here.....where can I get a good cask ale in the DC area?  Went to Paradiso many moons ago and their keg was dead.  Have had the cask ale at Rock bottom but was unimpressed.  Been looking for a decent cask ale since having them in London....and haven't had any luck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 23, 2009, 11:53:39 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 23, 2009, 11:40:29 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 22, 2009, 06:55:58 pm
Their black choclate stout is dangerously good though.

Impossible to exaggerate how good that beer is.

Question for the experts here.....where can I get a good cask ale in the DC area?  Went to Paradiso many moons ago and their keg was dead.  Have had the cask ale at Rock bottom but was unimpressed.  Been looking for a decent cask ale since having them in London....and haven't had any luck.

Birch and Barley, which opened yesterday, is supposed to have five casks. (and 50 taps and 500 bottles.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on October 23, 2009, 12:09:38 pm
Quote from: Ardamus on October 21, 2009, 09:17:48 pm

I've only had Peroni at two places. I don't see it around too much.


They sell Peroni at the Verizon Center.
They even have the real original Budweiser from the Czech Rep. under the name Czechvar.
... if you're into lagers.

VC now might have one of the best beer selections of all the North American arenas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 23, 2009, 01:15:31 pm
This probably belongs in this thread. On tap at BBCK.



yum yum yum

Palo Santo Marron Dogfish Head Craft Brewery American Brown Ale Delaware 12.0%



A long, but  interesting article about this brew and others...

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/24/081124fa_fact_bilger


(http://thecolumbuswench.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/palo-santo-marron.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 23, 2009, 02:04:46 pm
Quote from: slappy on October 23, 2009, 12:09:38 pm
VC now might have one of the best beer selections of all the North American arenas.

That's a shame because buying a beer at VC during a hockey game is nothing short of painful.  If it weren't for the kiosk outside my gate I'd never buy beer in that joint.

Not an arena....but Camden Yards' beer selection seems a bit better than VC's. IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 23, 2009, 03:33:05 pm
Belga Cafe over on Capitol Hill has a bunch of events on the horizon to celebrate their 5th Anniversary, but one thing you shouldn?t let slip through all their festivities is their newest regular offering: Happy Hour!

From 4-6PM Monday through Friday, Belga will be offering half priced draft beers! That?s right tasty Belgian beers for half the price that you will normally pay for them. There will be some Belgian stadanrds of course, but there will also be a few gems from time to time. Last time we checked they had Stella Artois (3.50), Hoegaarden (3.25), Rodenbach ($3.75), Leffe Brown, Grimbergen Dubbel, Belga Pils, Belga White to choose from.

Check it out and look here for some previews of their other events later this week!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: thirsty moore on October 23, 2009, 03:38:09 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 23, 2009, 11:40:29 am
Question for the experts here.....where can I get a good cask ale in the DC area?  Went to Paradiso many moons ago and their keg was dead.  Have had the cask ale at Rock bottom but was unimpressed.  Been looking for a decent cask ale since having them in London....and haven't had any luck.

I really like Commonwealth up in Columbia Heights. They have two casks. Also, the bar is right next to the metro entrance. Easily accessible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 30, 2009, 09:46:32 am
tried the founders breakfast stout yesterday at the Big Hunt - incredible
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 30, 2009, 10:39:29 am
Quote from: brennser on October 30, 2009, 09:46:32 am
tried the founders breakfast stout yesterday at the Big Hunt - incredible

Amen to that. Four pack at Total Wines and Whole Foods. not quite as good as on tap, but still excellent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 30, 2009, 02:33:30 pm
Had one of these with last nights dinner:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3350/3650991670_440a2948c6.jpg)

Having half of one of these tonight:


(http://beeradvocate.com/im/beers/52077.jpg)

Saturday night's Haloween selection:
(http://justbeer.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/dogfish-head-punkin-ale.gif)

Making chili on Sunday, thinking maybe this will work:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/3252070366_c7b6132b7a.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 30, 2009, 02:51:45 pm
Before Venerable and I do the McCallan tasting on Veterans Day, we're doing the Anchor Steam Brewery Tour.  Hail to the Troops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2009, 03:04:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 30, 2009, 02:33:30 pm
Had one of these with last nights dinner:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3350/3650991670_440a2948c6.jpg)

congrats... but how was it?

Quote from: James Ford on October 30, 2009, 02:33:30 pm
Having half of one of these tonight:

(http://beeradvocate.com/im/beers/52077.jpg)

a whole half?!?  well, it is friday night i suppose...

RFD had this one on tap 2 weeks ago - delicious.  i think you'll like it.

Quote from: James Ford on October 30, 2009, 02:33:30 pm
Saturday night's Haloween selection:
(http://justbeer.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/dogfish-head-punkin-ale.gif)

this is my favorite pumpkin beer at the moment.  some folks claim it is too sweet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 30, 2009, 03:07:32 pm
the club also has dogfish punkin on tap at the upstairs bar
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 30, 2009, 03:09:41 pm
Rhett, let me ask you. How do you go about drinking 'half' a beer? In other words, do you spring for a whole bottle between two people or do you drink half and put the rest in the refridgerator for another wild whooping time?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 30, 2009, 03:26:41 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on October 30, 2009, 03:09:41 pm
Rhett, let me ask you. How do you go about drinking 'half' a beer? In other words, do you spring for a whole bottle between two people or do you drink half and put the rest in the refridgerator for another wild whooping time?

You mean James, right?

It comes in a 22 oz bottle, has 8.7% alcohol. Juliet and I will be splitting one. We're such lightweights, I'm sure we'll catch a small buzz even splitting one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 30, 2009, 08:45:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 30, 2009, 10:39:29 am
Quote from: brennser on October 30, 2009, 09:46:32 am
tried the founders breakfast stout yesterday at the Big Hunt - incredible

Amen to that. Four pack at Total Wines and Whole Foods. not quite as good as on tap, but still excellent.

just picked up a 4-pack at MaGruders for 10.99 - not cheap but still worth it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2009, 09:03:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 30, 2009, 03:26:41 pm
You mean James, right?

It comes in a 22 oz bottle, has 8.7% alcohol. Juliet and I will be splitting one.

you mean celeste, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 04, 2009, 01:31:47 pm
Dogfish Head Palo Santo Marron

Half price at Dupont Paradiso tonight at happy hour. I'm just saying.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: blackredfellow on November 04, 2009, 02:00:20 pm
Mmmmm Fraoch...

(http://www.slosar.com/list/uploaded_images/fraoch-772058.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 04, 2009, 04:04:37 pm
Grades on last week's beers:

Dogfish Indian Brown: A
Lagunitas Little Sumpin Extra: A
Bell's Kalamazoo Stout: B+
Dogfish Punkin: B
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: thirsty moore on November 05, 2009, 03:51:58 pm
Here's my grading system.

Beer - A
Hefeweizen - C+
Lite Beer - F
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on November 06, 2009, 06:26:35 pm
i might be wrong . . . but i think this beer is the best in the world:

(http://www.specialtybeer.com/images/stber_mix_big.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on November 07, 2009, 06:37:31 pm
So I went to Church Key (first time) before seeing Thao Nguyen at the Black Cat last night. There was a line out the door, and I had to wait probably 20 minutes before I was allowed to go upstairs to the bar. But it was all worth the wait.... OMG, I think I had the best beer I've ever tasted.

Beer: Aventinus Weizenbock Dunkel
(http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/images/Schneider_Aventinus_1.jpg)

It was like a flavor explosion in my mouth. Mind-blowingly good. Big, bold flavors, but at the same time perfectly balanced and smooth and easy to drink like a weissbier. Highly recommended. And Church Key has it on draft. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 10:11:26 am
Quote from: walkonby on November 06, 2009, 06:26:35 pm
i might be wrong . . . but i think this beer is the best in the world:

(http://www.specialtybeer.com/images/stber_mix_big.jpg)


Had the St. Bernardus #12 at Happy Hour at Birreria in Georgetown last night, and based on that one, you may be RIGHT. It get's an A+

Also had Bell's Rye Stout. Didn't really work for me. I think I've had four of their other stouts (Kalamazoo, Expedition, Double Cream, and Cherry), and this one was my least favorite. Still, not terrible, but I'll give it a B-.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on November 12, 2009, 01:10:28 pm
Church Key
Saturday Nov 21 @ 7 PM

Sam Caglione and Bryan Sellers of dogfish are going to be at Church Key as part of their opening activities or some such event, serving a keg of Black Thai.

I've not been to Church Key yet, but have heard it's constantly packed and at the rate they're going through kegs/casks (according to Twitter) it sounds as if it's ass-to-elbow from opening to close.  So, recommendations from people who've been.. go and slog through a possible even thicker crowd than normal, or skip it, wait a while for new-ness to wear off so it'll be a more enjoyable experience?

Additionally.. anyone know where Life and Limb is being served in DC and/or Silver Spring?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 01:36:44 pm
After paying $4 for three 10 oz microbrews at Mahaffey's in Baltimore in Saturday, I don't think I ever want to pay Church Key prices. And I'm not keen on supporting a place that serves veal-neck sausage and fois tots.

I say buy something good at Whole Foods and drink at home!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 12, 2009, 01:48:43 pm
we tried to get in on Tuesday night and there was a line out the door....glad to know the stimulus is working in DC at least....we went to Stoneys instead and drank some Bells Two Hearted
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on November 12, 2009, 01:54:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 01:36:44 pm
After paying $4 for three 10 oz microbrews at Mahaffey's in Baltimore in Saturday, I don't think I ever want to pay Church Key prices. And I'm not keen on supporting a place that serves veal-neck sausage and fois tots.

I say buy something good at Whole Foods and drink at home!

Rhett, your life is 'at home', which is not the same for everyone else. Some go out, not just for the drink, but for the socialization. Mind you, that is not at all meant as an insult in anyway. It's just that we have a whole world full of different kinds of people with different interests and concerns. Deal with it!

Is that $4 for 3 drinks or did you buy 3 and paid $4 each? Also, I'm not familiar with that place. Exactly where is it and what sort of selection?

Any guesses on how long before other competitors (to Church Key) come along? Sounds promising! Me, I'll wait for the crowds to die down or some odd circumstance to find myself there.

Btw, that 6 pack looks good. Especially like that it is a variety pack; as I love trying new and different options; and it's a '6 pack' instead of those lame 4 packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 02:04:39 pm
This is the place I went.

http://mahaffeyspub.com/

$4 for three beers. That's $1.33 a beer. A couple of the beers on their draft list weren't included in the special, but the rest were.

Doesn't Church Key already have competitors? Two Paradiso locations, the Brickskellar, RFD, Rustico, two area Dogfish pubs? Personally, I'd choose any of those over Church Key, based on beer specials, vegetarian options, and affordability of the food.

I wasn't saying to avoid going out to a pub to drink, but merely sugggesting that with Whole Foods a two minute walk away, it's definitely an attractive alternative to an overcrowded, expensive night out at Church Key.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on November 12, 2009, 02:13:48 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 01:36:44 pm
After paying $4 for three 10 oz microbrews at Mahaffey's in Baltimore in Saturday, I don't think I ever want to pay Church Key prices. And I'm not keen on supporting a place that serves veal-neck sausage and fois tots.

I say buy something good at Whole Foods and drink at home!

Mmm, 3-fers at Mahaffeys.  Haven't done that in a while.  I think they have steak-night on Tuesdays too, which is really good as well.

It's in Fells Point, a street up from O'Donnell Street, don't remember the name.  I work with a lot of people from Baltimore (work in Columbia) and when we'd head to B'more after work for drinks we'd usually head there.  The 3-fer selection is a short list, about 15 selections if memory serves, but there's always about 5-6 worth having.

Edit:  Didn't see the above post with link to Mahaffeys, sorry for being redundant, all the necessary info is there.  Also.. in Canton, not Fells Point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 02:31:27 pm
Technically, I think it's in Canton, not Fells Point. But to someone in Columbia (who lives in DC?), it's probably all the same...

Just kiddin!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on November 12, 2009, 02:43:52 pm
Thanks, I was going to say that.  ;)
They are next door neighbors though.

Think I've been there a couple times but that was years ago. Had dinner and wine and very much enjoyed it. Guess it's time to think about going back; specifically, on a week night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on November 12, 2009, 03:00:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 02:31:27 pm
Technically, I think it's in Canton, not Fells Point. But to someone in Columbia (who lives in DC?), it's probably all the same...

Just kiddin!

Ha, I know Fells Points, and I know Canton Square, until now not sure I knew Canton as a name for the neighborhood even existed.  Canton Square in a neighborhood called Canton?.. not sure how i didn't pick up on that.  Bah.. it's all Baltimore to me.. nevertheless, I'll know for the next time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 03:30:13 pm
Quote from: imbecile on November 12, 2009, 03:00:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 02:31:27 pm
Technically, I think it's in Canton, not Fells Point. But to someone in Columbia (who lives in DC?), it's probably all the same...

Just kiddin!

Ha, I know Fells Points, and I know Canton Square, until now not sure I knew Canton as a name for the neighborhood even existed.  Canton Square in a neighborhood called Canton?.. not sure how i didn't pick up on that.  Bah.. it's all Baltimore to me.. nevertheless, I'll know for the next time.

Double ha. I have no idea what Canton Square is. I just remember Canton as the rundown neighborhood I used to drive down from Charles Village to when I wanted a booty call from my FWB back in the mid-90s. I know, TMI. I hadn't been back there in years before this weekend, was amazed at how much the area has changed. Great new-ish playground in Patterson Park, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 12, 2009, 04:58:48 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 12, 2009, 03:30:13 pm
I just remember Canton as the rundown neighborhood I used to drive down from Charles Village to when I wanted a booty call from my FWB back in the mid-90s.

(http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rob-twocats.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on November 18, 2009, 02:58:39 pm
Re: Church Key....

I've only been there once and experienced the same line-out-the-door and super-crowded bar area, but that was on a Saturday night. I'd hoped it was just a weekend thing and that during the week would be less crowded. I'll probably wait until the newness wears off a little before going back. But, as I wrote on page 5, Aventinus on draft is so mind-blowingly good that I'll find it very hard to resist if I'm in the neighborhood again soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on November 18, 2009, 07:33:20 pm
i went to a place with friends and all they had on tap was bud.  we got a pitcher of it anyway.  after three glasses of it . . . i said, "it all tastes the same when you're getting drunk."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on November 18, 2009, 08:32:50 pm
Quote from: walkonby on November 18, 2009, 07:33:20 pm
i went to a place with friends and all they had on tap was bud.  we got a pitcher of it anyway.  after three glasses of it . . . i said, "it all tastes the same when you're getting drunk."

this is very true  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 23, 2009, 06:11:43 pm
(http://www.gooseisland.com/filebin/images/products/full/bourbon-county-stout-new.jpg)

Tried this over the weekend in Chicago. I'm a big fan of stouts but found this to be borderline undrinkable. Judging by the ecstatic reviews on BA and ratebeer I am very much in the minority on this one but happy with my stance.

Just way too much going on with this beer and the whiskey taste was completely completely over the top. I didn't finish it, something I thought I'd never do with a $11 beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 23, 2009, 08:16:30 pm
Thanks for the Bourbon County tip Brennser. I'm sitting in the Chicago burbs right now, heading to the Goose Island brewpub tomorrow. Was planning on one of those, but if they're $11 and undrinkable (I
m wary of the whiskey taste myself), may have to pass.

Did you try any of the other Goose Island or maybe anything by Three Floyds (from the Indiana burbs).

I'm actually excited to go to the Whole Foods in Lincoln Park. 16 beers on tap in the store, and you can drink while one while you shop.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 23, 2009, 09:14:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 23, 2009, 08:16:30 pm
I'm actually excited to go to the Whole Foods in Lincoln Park. 16 beers on tap in the store, and you can drink while one while you shop.

*swoons*
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 23, 2009, 09:26:40 pm
I've never had a Three Floyds I didn't like

Try the Matilda if they have it at Goose Island

Quote from: James Ford on November 23, 2009, 08:16:30 pm
Thanks for the Bourbon County tip Brennser. I'm sitting in the Chicago burbs right now, heading to the Goose Island brewpub tomorrow. Was planning on one of those, but if they're $11 and undrinkable (I
m wary of the whiskey taste myself), may have to pass.

Did you try any of the other Goose Island or maybe anything by Three Floyds (from the Indiana burbs).

I'm actually excited to go to the Whole Foods in Lincoln Park. 16 beers on tap in the store, and you can drink while one while you shop.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2009, 09:36:18 am
Just went on a two day Chicago beer blast.

Lunch at Whole Foods Tuesday. 16 drafts on tap with free samples aplenty, a lounge area and a food court. But the better option was a list of 10 or so regional bottles pured into a glass for $2 a pop. We tried, in order of preference, Founders Red Rye PA, Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald Porter, Three Floyds Robert Bruce, and Bell's Best Brown. The store is the third biggest WF in the world, like Disneyland for foodies. Easy to manage with a toddler.

Dinner was at Goose Island Brewpub in Clybourn. Overpriced and a bit too corporate in atmosphere with not many good eats for vegetarians. But the beer was good. We split the Black Cat Stout and the Pere Jaques dubbel. Both very good. Then for "dessert" we split the Imperial Goose, an old brown ale with the same bourbon tones . at 9% abv, probably more manageable than te Bouron County Stout. Really loved that beer.

Wed night was date night, with toddler home with grandparents. And what more romantic thing to do than to drive from the Chicago southside exurbs to an industrial park in Munster, Indiana and go to the Three Floyds brewpub. Which turned out to be much more geographically accessible for us than northside Chicago. You walk in and Full Metal Jacket is playing on the wall, and Gogol Bordello, Black Sabbath, and the Stooges are playing loudly on the sound system, and you know this place has all of the coolness that the Goose Island pub is lacking. Pizza was good, funnel fries were good, chocolate cake was good, but the beer is the reason you're there. They have their own on tap, as well as an amazing collection of guest taps and bottles. We split five over the course of a couple of hours. My three favorites all turned out the be in the Beer Advocate top 80 . FFF's Dreadnaught IPA, Stone Ruinator IPA, and Gouden Carolus Cuvee Van De Keizer, all from the tap. Unibroue Terrible' was also from the tap and tasty. The only "miss" for me was the Sinebrychoff Porter, which wasn't horrible. Took home an FFF Alpha Klaus Xmas Porter bomber for the holidays.

Got a 6 pack of Grimbergen Dubbel on sale at WF, so we'll have a couple of those with the Thanksgiving chili today...and maybe take a day off from beer on Friday. Though I may go get some Goose Island specialties to take home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 09, 2009, 10:09:11 am
Perhaps a collection of clueless hipster doofuses could pool together their trust funds...



MILWAUKEE Pabst Brewing Co., owner of Pabst Blue Ribbon, Schlitz and other old-line beer brands, is on the sale block again.

Pabst's owner, the Kalmanovitz Charitable Foundation, based in Mill Valley, Calif., has hired Bank of America Merrill Lynch to find a buyer willing to pay around $300 million, according to the New York Post, which cited unnamed sources in a Monday article.

Executives at Pabst, based in suburban Chicago, and foundation officials didn't return phone calls seeking comment.

The sale effort is apparently the result of a deadline imposed by the Internal Revenue Service. Federal tax laws don't allow charitable foundations to own for-profit companies.

The IRS initially gave the foundation until 2005 to sell Pabst. That deadline was extended to 2010 when a buyer couldn't be found, according to a 2008 report by the Chicago Tribune.

Pabst, and its predecessor company, Best Brewing Co., was a Milwaukee mainstay for more than a century when it was acquired in 1985 by Paul Kalmanovitz. He bought other declining breweries, including Pearl and Falstaff, that were losing market share to growing giants Anheuser-Busch and Miller Brewing. Kalmanovitz died in 1987.

Pabst closed its Milwaukee brewery in 1996 and shuttered its last remaining brewery in 2001 after hiring Miller, now known as MillerCoors LLC, to brew its brands. Pabst in 2006 moved its offices from San Antonio, Texas, to Woodridge, Ill., where it has around 30 employees.

Because Pabst doesn't own breweries, it mainly operates as a marketing company, crafting strategies for selling dozens of brands, which also include Old Milwaukee, Stroh's and Heileman's Old Style.

In recent years, Pabst Blue Ribbon has seen revived sales when it was embraced by drinkers in their 20s, who see it as welcome contrast to heavily marketed beers.

Pabst Brewing also successfully relaunched Schlitz with its original formula from the '60s and announced it was bringing back "kraeusening," a process that uses additional fermentation, for Old Style.

Despite those efforts, Pabst Brewing's sales volume in 2008 dropped by 3.3 percent, to 5.9 million barrels from 6.1 million barrels, according to data compiled by Beer Marketer's Insights.

But that was a smaller drop than Pabst Brewing had seen in previous years. And it came as the company saw a big boost during the fourth quarter of 2008, with a 9 percent increase. That was fueled by a big jump in Pabst Blue Ribbon sales and higher Schlitz sales.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 09, 2009, 10:42:03 am
I enjoyed a great Chouffe Houblon at The Big Hunt last night - top beer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 09, 2009, 11:06:46 am
We hit the half price draft happy hour at Birreria in Georgetown last night...

We each had one of these (too good to merely split one):

(http://www.garshol.priv.no/blog/images/oak-aged-yeti.jpg)

It's in the Beer Advocate top 100, and now in my top 5. Amazing!



We split one of these:

(http://beeradvocate.com/im/beers/6804.jpg)

Not the best Belgian I've ever had, but still very good.



We split one of these:

(http://www.brewdog.com/blog_images/1021f63e997b3a8ebbe98b191ce59e3a_15769.jpeg)

Very interesting collaboration between Brewdog and Stone. I'd buy it elsewhere if it weren't so outrageously priced.



And finished the night off here (is there a better gelato shop anywhere in DC? I doubt it.)

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/04/business/smallbusiness/04gelato.650.1.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 09, 2009, 02:51:27 pm
Sierra Nevada Torpedo-an "extra" IPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on December 09, 2009, 02:57:38 pm
I'm not a huge fan of IPAs, but I've lately been enjoying Dogfish Head's Burton Baton, an oak-aged imperial IPA. Nice balance of hops and flavor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 09, 2009, 03:09:25 pm
Burton Baton is delicious, especially on tap
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 04, 2010, 09:02:02 am
Quote from: BAGLEY on December 09, 2009, 03:09:25 pm
Burton Baton is delicious, especially on tap


The artist who designed to label is Jon Langford, of Waco Brothers/Mekons fame.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vtLkdZgAjeQ/Seufbg2aXaI/AAAAAAAAALM/LbLxhPQrnMI/s320/burton+baton.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 04, 2010, 09:17:59 am
Had this (from Ommegang) at Christmas, went great with chocolate covered cherries:


(http://legalbeer.com/images/ommegang%20three%20philosophers%20ale.jpg)



Had these two (from Dogfish and Founder's, respectively) for New Years Eve:

(http://www.drunkenpolack.com/images/sahtea.JPG)


(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/3105195945_48306a875b.jpg)



And these two Saturday night at Churchkey (from Ommegang and Smuttynose, respectively):

(http://www.ibabuzz.com/bottomsup/files/2009/01/ommegang-ombamagang-label1.jpg)

(http://www.drunkenpolack.com/images/smuttybigipa.jpg)




I think my favorites were Three Philosophers, Backwoods Bastard, and the Big A IPA. The weakest was the Obamagang Inauguration Ale, though it was pretty decent.



Drank the New Year's Eve beers while watching this movie. Movie was decent, but not terribly insightful.

(http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/omnivore/files/2009/03/beerwars_poster_small.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 04, 2010, 06:41:48 pm
for "something different", my friend served me this before we headed out to the 930 on NYE:

(http://www.marshrivereditions.com/~nicholas/PaF/fraochbottle.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2804582644_6f298e92b3.jpg)
 
"Fraoch Heather Ale
Brewed in Scotland since 2000 B.C. heather ale is probably the oldest style of ale still produced in the world. From an ancient Gaelic recipe for "leann fraoich" (heather ale) it has been revived and reintroduced to the Scottish culture. Into the boiling bree of malted barley, sweet gale and flowering heather are added, then after cooling slightly the hot ale is poured into a vat of fresh heather flowers where it infuses for an hour before being fermented." (source: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/80/245)

t'was awrite, but as most of the reviewers on BA note, it's not something you'd want to drink more than one of.  its floral flavor is more interesting & unique than it is good & satisfying.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 13, 2010, 09:46:41 am
(http://ficklepeach.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/hopslam.jpg)

I've heard alot of hype about this beer over the years but had never gotten around to tasting it, mainly due to the limited supply and "blink and you'll miss it" sales window.

The hype is definitely worth it. I like hoppy beers incl the various Dogfish offerings but this one is head and shoulders above the rest, mainly because the honey they use in brewing cuts through a little of the bitterness that excessive hopping can cause. Think of it as a more approachable and flavorful 90 minute IPA.

I had two pints of this at The Big Hunt yesterday. Its probably gone by now as any bar that could get it was restricted to 1 keg.

Picked up a few 6 packs at Rodmans also.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 13, 2010, 11:11:21 am
bells really makes some good beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 13, 2010, 02:37:37 pm
Quote from: godsshoeshine on January 13, 2010, 11:11:21 am
bells really makes some good beers

Second best brewery in Michigan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 13, 2010, 02:56:35 pm
to founders? what should i try a sixer of from founders
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 13, 2010, 03:48:40 pm
Quote from: godsshoeshine on January 13, 2010, 02:56:35 pm
to founders? what should i try a sixer of from founders

Are four packs also acceptable?

Haven't had a Founder's beer that I didn't think was great.



I'll stick with the Breakfast Stout as the best of the bunch. Comes in a four pack.

Backwood Bastard comes in a four pack. You get a heavy bourbon taste at first. Whether that's a good thing to you will probably determine whether you like it or not.

Red Rye Ale is the #1 rated rye beer on beeradvocate. Comes in a six pack. I've only had a single, but it was excellent.

Centennial IPA is perhaps my favorite IPA that's not an imperial. Though I'm just getting into IPA's so haven't compared it to some that I should. Comes in a 6.


I think that's all that I've had.

Bell's is very good, but I haven't had one that really, really blew me away. (I've had cherry stout, double cream stout, two hearted, expedition, kalamazoo...what else should i try??? I reckon hopslam for sure...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 13, 2010, 05:45:57 pm
mostly i like sessionable ipa's, and i dont think 2 hearted ale can be beat. i do enjoy dark beer this time of the year, though
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: bluec on January 13, 2010, 07:12:07 pm
I wish I could find Bells near where I live... tried the 2-hearted one time and really enjoyed it.

had these this weekend, both delicious.  Ten Fidy is one of my favorite stouts, the Stone (probably my favorite brewery) is an amazing dark ale.

(http://www.lonestarbeverages.com/resources/_wsb_248x295_ten+fidy.jpg) (http://www.batchesbrew.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/selfale.jpg)

this Stone I didn't enjoy as much... a 'Belgian IPA' just doesn't work for me I guess
(http://www.drunkenpolack.com/images/cali.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 14, 2010, 08:52:16 am
Half price draft happy hour at Birreria last night.

Having always scoffed at paying $10 for a 12 oz bottle of beer at a retail store, this was my chance to finally try World Wide Stout, I jumped at the chance to split a 10oz draft of it for $5. Having had it, I have to agree with the BA reviewer who said it tasted like nail polish. Better than drinking a PBR or Bud, but definitely no better than a C+ beer. Never again, even if it were much cheaper.

In better news, I had Bell's Expedition for the second time. Liked it alot more (could the cask conditioning have made it that much better?). Yum. A-

Also had the Victory Yakima Twilight Ale. One beer site called it a DIPA, the other an American Strong Ale. Regardless of what it was, it was very good. A-


Georgetown Draft Menu:

Dogfish Head World Wide Stout
Geants Saison Voisin
Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout
Schnieder Aventinus
Bells Amber
Avery 14ers ESB
Allagash Fluxus
Hitachino Nest White
Avery New World Porter
Bosteels Pauwel Kwak
Otter Creek Quercus Vitis Humulus
Rogue Yellow Snow IPA
North Coast PranQster
Ayinger Brauweisse
Victory Yakima Twilight

Cask: Bells Expedition
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2010, 02:59:38 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 13, 2010, 09:46:41 am
(http://ficklepeach.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/hopslam.jpg)

I've heard alot of hype about this beer over the years but had never gotten around to tasting it, mainly due to the limited supply and "blink and you'll miss it" sales window.

The hype is definitely worth it. I like hoppy beers incl the various Dogfish offerings but this one is head and shoulders above the rest, mainly because the honey they use in brewing cuts through a little of the bitterness that excessive hopping can cause. Think of it as a more approachable and flavorful 90 minute IPA.

I had two pints of this at The Big Hunt yesterday. Its probably gone by now as any bar that could get it was restricted to 1 keg.

Picked up a few 6 packs at Rodmans also.



Took your tip and picked up a six pack. Painful to pay close to $20 for a six pack, but just had to try to it.

And the verdict is....best DIPA I've had. Simply outstanding. My wife thinks it's not as good as Three Floyds' Dreadnaught, but I may like this one better.

RFD is listing it as "coming soon".

Bought it at Fair Lakes Whole Foods. Great place to go and burn money. They have four in-store eateries, two of them with two taps each...and I heard that they have plans to add four more taps in a third eatery. While there, we has Avery New World Porter and Founders Dry Hopped Pale Ale. They also do free beeer sampling on weekends, about eight or so different varieties.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on January 18, 2010, 04:06:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 13, 2010, 03:48:40 pm
Bell's is very good, but I haven't had one that really, really blew me away. (I've had cherry stout, double cream stout, two hearted, expedition, kalamazoo...what else should i try??? I reckon hopslam for sure...)

Best Brown.  It's been my favorite Bell's offering for quite a while.  I picked up a few cases of it back in October at total wine for my wedding and haven't looked for it since, but should still be available for another month or so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on January 18, 2010, 07:39:56 pm
i do believe that somehwhere in here i stated the name of my favourite beer . . . but if there is a beer to attempt a title fight for the distinction it would be this:

(http://www.bieropholie.com/formulaires/Yowie/images/Corsendonk.JPG)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on January 21, 2010, 11:55:09 am
Cheers! Baltimore decides to join in on all of the fun with The City Tap House (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/midnight_sun/blog/2010/01/city_tap_house_to_open_in_harb.html). (Crappy name but sounds promising otherwise.)

Not all that far from Soundgarden either so one could make quite a nice day of it. All you need to do to really do it up right is to finish off with a show at some place like the Metro Gallery, the Ottobar or another area venue to your liking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chip Chanko on January 21, 2010, 05:41:07 pm
The Tenley Whole Foods has a bunch of Hopslam. Also $20. They also had Brooklyn Black Ops as of last night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: redsock on January 21, 2010, 07:11:59 pm
Hopslam is on tap at Brickskellar for a limited time, prolly starting today. I was at the Brick last night for the Tupper's Hop Pocket return, and once the last keg ran out, Hopslam was next. Pretty good beer but excited about the Hopslam even more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 28, 2010, 02:59:29 pm
And now for the complete opposite experience of Hopslam...

I threw down $9 to have one of these at Church Key and nearly threw up. I felt a bit vindicated when I read the low, low scores on beer advocate and ratebeer, relative to other DIPA's.

It was so bad I bought a 4 oz size porter from Brooklyn Brewery called Cookie Jar Porter to wash it down. Unfortunately, it was only marginally better.

I did notice that Great Lakes beers have finally come to the area. Their Edmund Fitzgerald Porter may be my favorite porter. Yum.


(http://lh4.ggpht.com/jramskov/R_jAzipViSI/AAAAAAAAGGs/juEyaSVOnlE/s400/Brewdog+-+Hardcore+IPA.JPG.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2010, 01:39:12 am
hey rhett - you've stated that you often limit yourself to just one beer.  well, if you're only going to have just one:

Brewer fights back with 41 per cent beer (http://www.ananova.com/News/story/sm_3680732.html)

this beer can't be very tasty, can it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 01, 2010, 10:32:55 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Day_%28Iceland%29


In Iceland, Beer Day (Icelandic: Bjórdagurinn or Bjórdagur[1]) is celebrated every year on March 1, honoring the elimination of the 74-year prohibition of beer. Prohibition lasted from 1915 to March 1, 1989.

In a 1908 referendum, Icelanders voted in favor of a ban on all alcoholic drinks, going into effect Jan. 1, 1915. In 1921, the ban was partially lifted after Spain refused to buy Iceland's main export, fish, unless Iceland bought Spanish wines; then lifted further after a national referendum in 1935 came out in favor of legalizing spirits. Strong beer (with an alcohol content of 2.25% or more[2]), however, was not included in the 1935 vote in order to please the temperance lobby -- which argued that because beer is cheaper than spirits, it would lead to more depravity[3].

As international travel brought Icelanders back in touch with beer, bills to legalize it were regularly moved in parliament, but inevitably were shot down on technical grounds. Prohibition lost more support in 1985, when the Minister of Justice (himself a teetotaler) prohibited pubs from adding legal spirits to legal non-alcoholic beer (called "pilsner" by Icelanders[4]) to make a potent imitation of strong beer. Soon after, beer approached legalization in parliament?a full turnout of the upper house of Iceland's Parliament voted 13 to 8 to permit the sales, ending prohibition on the island.

Following the end of prohibition, Icelanders have celebrated every Beer Day by imbibing the drink in various bars, restaurants, and clubs. Those located in Reykjavik, the capital and largest city in Iceland, are especially wild on Beer Day[6][7]; a ?rúntur? (this is what The Lonely Planet guide wrongly claims. "Rúntur" actually involves driving down the main street and people watch, not to go bar crawling) (bar crawl) is a popular way of getting to know the various bars and beers in this city, many being open until 4:00 a.m. the next day[8]. The legalization of beer remains a cultural milestone in Iceland and a major seismic shift in the nation?s alcoholic beverage preference, as beer has today become the most popular alcoholic beverage of choice[5].

The celebration of Beer Day in Iceland has inspired a similar event in the U.S., known as Iceland Beer Day, or IBD.[9]
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: redsock on March 02, 2010, 12:15:57 am
And they have Viking. Which is sort of the Bud of Iceland, but you can drink it all night and not get a hang over. Mixed with a shot or two of Black Death, you're all set.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 02, 2010, 08:47:59 am
Quote from: redsock on March 02, 2010, 12:15:57 am
And they have Viking. Which is sort of the Bud of Iceland, but you can drink it all night and not get a hang over. Mixed with a shot or two of Black Death, you're all set.

at 42 closing in on 43, I'm not looking for anything close to Bud, or anything that you can drink all night. Just give me a high alcohol craft brew i can sip before i fall asleep at 10. haha
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 28, 2010, 09:02:22 am


Drink up: Savor festival brings beer events to D.C. bars
The annual Savor craft beer festival returns to Washington on June 5, with 70 brewers from across the country bringing their finest ales and lagers to the National Building Museum. Attendees can sample up to 140 different beers -- all paired with regional foods -- while getting the chance to chat with brewers and take seminars from leading names in the industry.

No wonder all public tickets for this 2000-capacity event sold out in less than 10 minutes when they went on sale in February.

If you didn't score Savor tickets, you're not left completely out in the cold. Many of the brewers coming to Savor will be in town for several days, and numerous beer dinners, tastings and meet-and-greets are planned. Here's a day-by-day rundown of some of the best. (We're still waiting for some bars and breweries to finalize details, so check back for updates.)

Sunday, May 30
Birreria Paradiso beer director Greg Jasgur recently paid a visit to the Captain Lawrence Brewery in Pleasantville, N.Y., and brought back eight different beers that aren't usually available in D.C. Beginning at 5 p.m., they'll be available for purchase at Pizzeria Paradiso in Dupont Circle while supplies last.

Tuesday, June 1
ChurchKey, which has the largest number of cask-conditioned ales in the area, is hosting a Cask Party, filling its five taps with offerings from Harpoon, Dogfish Head, Heavy Seas, Peak Organic and Flying Dog, and putting even more beers on regular tap lines. You pay for what you drink.

Wednesday, June 2
Beers from Munster, Ind.'s award-winning Three Floyds brewery make rare appearances at Birreria Paradiso and ChurchKey, but on this night, you can taste eight of their brews at the Brickskeller while getting insight and commentary from owner/brewer Nick Floyd and brewer Barnaby Struve, whom you may remember from his time at the Rock Bottom Brewery in Ballston. Tickets are $35 from lovethebeer.com.

If you've been craving some new pint glasses for your kitchen cabinet, this is your lucky night: During happy hour at the Pizzeria Paradisos in Georgetown and Dupont, which runs from 5 to 7, you can take home some branded glassware from Ommegang, Flying Dog and other breweries every time you buy a half-price beer. (The giveaways will extend beyond happy hour if there are glasses left, but the liquid discounts will not.)

The venerable Anchor brewery, famous for Anchor Steam, celebrated its 30th birthday last August by brewing a brand new beer: Humming pale ale. The Humming Ale release party at ChurchKey marks the beer's seasonal debut, and special Anchor beers will also be offered on draft while supplies last.

Thursday, June 3
Regular Nightlife Agenda readers will know how much I enjoy the Belgian- and European-style beers from the small, family-run Bruery in Orange County, Calif. Brewer Patrick Rue is in town for Savor, and will be hosting an intimate 25-seat dinner at Brasserie Beck on Thursday night. Chef Robert Wiedmaier's four-course, five-beer menu features such pairings as the roasty, malty Rugbrod ale with New Frontier bison strip loin accompanied by fingerling potatoes, spring asparagus and horseradish cream in a pinot noir reduction. (And wait until you see the cheese course.) Tickets are $85, which excludes tax and tip, and on sale from the restaurant. These will go fast.

Fresh off their tasting at the Brickskeller, the busy Three Floyds brewers host a pair of beer dinners at Birreria Paradiso in Georgetown. The four-course, seven-beer dinners begin at 6:30 and 9 and cost $65 including tax and tip. This should be one for the connoisseurs -- Birerria says the beers will include a barrel-aged version of the Dark Lord Imperial Stout, which is sold only on one day in April every year. Call for reservations.

The beers from the Odell Brewing Company never make it over the Mississippi River -- except when Doug O'Dell brings them east for Savor. He leads a tasting of eight of the Fort Collins, Col. brewery's products at the Brickskeller, including, if we're lucky, the gorgeous Scotch-style 90 Shilling Ale. Tickets are $30 in advance from lovethebeer.com.

Meanwhile, R.F.D. is hosting what you could call a consolation Savor in its back room, with samples of rare and unusual beers on draft and in bottles from Dogfish Head, Ommegang, Stoudts, Cisco, Southampton, Peak, Otter Creek and many others. Brewery reps will be on hand to answer questions, and light snacks will be provided. Tickets cost $30 from lovethebeer.com.

(Find more Friday through Wednesday events after the jump.)

Friday, June 4
If you want to hear about the state of craft beer in America from some of the country's top brewers and experts, you need to be at the Brickskeller's "The Night Before Savor" tasting and panel discussion. Among the brewers bringing their rare beers for tasting and discussion are Greg Koch of Stone, Sam Calagione of Dogfish Head, Kim Jordan of New Belgium, Rob Tod of Allagash, Ken Grossman of Sierra Nevada, Nick Matt of Saranac and Virginia's own Bill Madden, who won numerous awards at Capitol City Brewing Company and is about to open his own brewpub, the Mad Fox, in Falls Church. Bob Pease, the chief operating officer of the Brewers Association, will also be in the house. THIS EVENT IS SOLD OUT.

Looking for a smaller no-cover option? From 7 to 10, brewers from Southampton, Ommagang, Flying Dog, Smuttynose and Victory, among others, will be meeting and greeting at Birreria Paradiso's Meet the Brewers Night. There's no cover charge -- just pay for the beers you drink while chatting with the folks what made 'em.

If you've ever been to the University of Georgia, you've probably tasted beers by the Terrapin Brewery, located just outside downtown Athens. Terrapin brewmaster and co-founder Spike Buckowski will be at Rustico from 6 tp 9 p.m. with his super-hoppy Hopsecutioner IPA (dry-hopped with Centennial hops), the Hop Karma IPA, some vintage Gamma Ray wheat beer, and the current "Side Project" Boomshakalager, a dry-hopped imperial lager. The only cost is for the beers you drink.

So this is more of an off-premise event than a bar party, but we couldn't pass it up: Dogfish Head founder Sam Calagione will be signing copies of his new book "Extreme Brewing" and leading a free tasting of Dogfish's new Festina Peche summer beer at the D'Vine's beer and wine shop in Columbia Heights between 5 and 6. Buy a book and get a Dogfish Head glass (and Calagione's signature). Call ahead and you can order a limited edition growler full of one of Dogfish Head's limited edition beers, including Palo Santo, World Wide Stout, 120 Minute IPA, Black and Blue, Immort Ale, Midas Touch, Olde School and Burton Baton. (The take-home growlers start at $45.)

Before heading to the Brickskeller event mentioned above, Sierra Nevada founder Ken Grossman is making an early stop at ChurchKey for a meet-and-greet. If you haven't sampled the brewery's offerings beyond the legendary Pale Ale, this is a great time to start: ChurchKey will be serving five Sierra Nevada beers on cask and giving away logoed glasses.

Louisiana's Abita brewery revels in its title of "The South's largest craft brewer," and it's celebrating Cajun-style at Eatonville. Six Abita beers (and root beer) are paired with gumbo, fried oysters, BBQ shrimp and other treats. A live band will enhance the New Orleans atmosphere. The party runs from 6 to 8, and the $10 cover includes food and one beer.

Saturday, June 5
This is the big day: Savor runs from 7:30 p.m. to 11. But before that, Greg Koch of the cult Stone Brewing Company is hosting a lunchtime event at Rustico. Meet Koch and try some of Stone's heavyweight ales between 11:30 and 2 p.m., including a double-dry-hopped keg of the Stone IPA, a keg of the 10th Anniversary edition of Stone's Russian Imperial Stout, which blends various vintages from 2003 to 2010 together to create an all-new beer, and a cask-conditioned version of Ruination IPA. If you love big, hoppy beers, this is not an event to miss.

Sunday, June 6
The perfect way to recover from a late night at Savor? A boozy brunch featuring the beers of Allagash and the Bruery. Dupont Circle's Pizzeria Paradiso will play host to the four-course, six-beer meal, which starts at noon and costs $60, including tax and tip. Brewery representatives will be on hand to discuss the beers.

All week long, the Black Squirrel is celebrating the women of brewing by offering a special menu featuring food paired with beers from breweries that were founded by women (like Rogue) or feature female brewers and cellarwomen (like Flying Dog). To wrap up the week, the Squirrel's second-floor lounge is the site of "All 'Ale the Ladies," which features women from all strata of the industry gathering between 6 and 8:30. Meet Ellie Tupper (the co-founder of the Tupper Hop Pocket Brewing Company); Julia Herz, the director of the Brewer's Association's Craft Beer Program; Flying Dog quality control chief Gwen Conley, Rogue marketing expert (and Chocolate Stout label star) Sebbie Buhler; and beer writer Carolyn Smagalski, aka the Beer Fox. Tammy Tuck of the Washington City Paper's Lagerheads bloggers and Deverie Robinson of Hurra Bier! and DC Beer.com are the hosts. There will be specials on numerous beers, starting at $4, and free appetizers to anyone who RSVPs through the City Paper Web site.

Rick Chapman, founder of San Diego's Coronado Brewing Company, brings two casks of his beers to Rustico between 2 and 5 p.m.: Sample the Coronado Irish Stout and the Nutter Brown.

Monday, June 7
Despite the TV ads, there's only one family-owned brewery in St. Louis: The Schlafly Brewery, which produces some very tasty beers. (Their Kolsch is one of the finest American examples of the German style.) Schlafly's brewers will be hosting a post-Savor meet-and-greet at the Big Hunt from 5:30 to 7:30.. Try the Kolsch, Pale Ale and American Pale Ale on draft ($6 each), and one of their Belgian styles in bottles, plus a special cask ale from the Big Hunt's new cask system.

Wednesday, June 9
While it's well after Savor, we couldn't pass this up: James Watt, one of the brewers and founders of Scotland's eclectic and inventive BrewDog brewery, will be visiting ChurchKey, with "4 or 5 casks and 6 or 7 drafts." Watch this space for more details.

-- Fritz Hahn
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 28, 2010, 09:25:02 am
thanks for posting that.  is that from a newsletter one can sign up for? (edit: found it, on the WaPo's going out gurus)

another event, which 930/IMP appears to be involved with:

2nd Annual Beer, Bourbon & BBQ Festival
National Harbor
www.beerandbourbon.com
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=129653277051419
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 28, 2010, 09:30:39 am
From Going Out Gurus.

No beer list, though some of those participating update their beer lists on their websites.

I know I'll be out next weekend chasing down some leftovers. It's rare when you can get yourself some Three Floyds in DC. Not that I'm encouraging anybody else to drink up the limited supply.


Quote from: sweetcell on May 28, 2010, 09:25:02 am
thanks for posting that.  is that from a newsletter one can sign up for? (edit: i see it's from the WaPo's going out gurus... do they have a beer list?)

another event, which 930/IMP appears to be involved with:

2nd Annual Beer, Bourbon & BBQ Festival
National Harbor
www.beerandbourbon.com
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=129653277051419

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 28, 2010, 09:49:40 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 28, 2010, 09:02:22 am

Sunday, May 30
Birreria Paradiso beer director Greg Jasgur recently paid a visit to the Captain Lawrence Brewery in Pleasantville, N.Y., and brought back eight different beers that aren't usually available in D.C. Beginning at 5 p.m., they'll be available for purchase at Pizzeria Paradiso in Dupont Circle while supplies last.


Is this a new practice?  Bringing in beers that you normally cannot buy in DC?  I read that Black Squirrel in Adams Morgan had Fat Tire a couple of weeks ago - same deal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 28, 2010, 11:22:31 am
No.

Can't find the link, but i was reading an article saying the Brickskellar guy used to do this with West Coast beers that weren't available locally at the time. And it said the PP guy has been doing it with Three Floyds for several years.


Quote from: StoneTheCrow on May 28, 2010, 09:49:40 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 28, 2010, 09:02:22 am

Sunday, May 30
Birreria Paradiso beer director Greg Jasgur recently paid a visit to the Captain Lawrence Brewery in Pleasantville, N.Y., and brought back eight different beers that aren't usually available in D.C. Beginning at 5 p.m., they'll be available for purchase at Pizzeria Paradiso in Dupont Circle while supplies last.


Is this a new practice?  Bringing in beers that you normally cannot buy in DC?  I read that Black Squirrel in Adams Morgan had Fat Tire a couple of weeks ago - same deal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JayC on July 23, 2010, 02:22:08 am
It is only in my beer list, and I should drink it for my lifestyle. This beer gives some taste to the drinker because it has extraordinary ingredients. For me, this is the best beer I have ever drunk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 23, 2010, 08:22:51 am
Quote from: JayC on July 23, 2010, 02:22:08 am
It was only in my beer list, and I should drink it for my lifestyle. This beer gives some tasteful to the drinker because it was a beer that has extraordinary ingredients for the beer. For me, this is the best beer I ever  drink.


what beer are you talking about?

is this another spambot that posts vaguely on-topic replies?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 23, 2010, 11:08:39 am
We made our annual midwest beer trek last week.

I picked up four packs of Goose Island Pere Jaques, Sofie, and Mathlda; six packs of Three Floyd's Alpha King and Robert the Bruce, and a bomber of FFF Dreadnaught. I also picked up some Ommegang four packs (Abbey Ale, Hennepin, and Wittebier) since their four packs seem hard to come by around here. no, you can't come to my house for a visit.

We also went to the Three Floyds Pub in Munster, Indiana, and Bier Markt in Cleveland. Both get A+ marks for beer and pizza. We also took the brewery tour at Great Lakes Brewery in Cleveland. Their beers were good, but not great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on July 23, 2010, 11:46:17 am
In my ongoing quest for the perfect IPA,  I keep coming back to the Bells Two Hearted Ale though the Smuttynose draft @ Church Key and Heavy Seas Loose Cannon on draft @ a few places in the area are pretty darn good....I' d  love to find Pliny the Elder or Younger around here though....any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 23, 2010, 12:01:20 pm
This place (which puts to shame any bar in DC) has Pliny the Elder on tap for $6.50.

www.brouwerscafe.com/draught.pdf

I'll drink one for you when I'm there in a couple of weeks. I don't think you can get Pliny in these parts, can you?

I recently made the acquaintence of Green Flash IPA and Hop Rod Rye IPA, both of which were excellent.


Quote from: Bagley on July 23, 2010, 11:46:17 am
In my ongoing quest for the perfect IPA,  I keep coming back to the Bells Two Hearted Ale though the Smuttynose draft @ Church Key and Heavy Seas Loose Cannon on draft @ a few places in the area are pretty darn good....I' d  love to find Pliny the Elder or Younger around here though....any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on July 23, 2010, 01:29:59 pm
i went to this sushi place in my neck of the woods, which blows away most sushi places in dc that i've been    to . . . and they had this beer called orion from japan.  super good and super tipsy making after just one.

(http://tokyo5.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/orion.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 23, 2010, 01:40:59 pm
By the way, I love taking my five figure self out of six figure DC and into other five figure towns like Baltimore and Cleveland.

$6.50 for a 12 oz draft of St. Benardus #12 at Bier Markt Cleveland and three craft brews for $5 at Mahaffeys in B-more. Nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on July 23, 2010, 02:05:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 23, 2010, 01:40:59 pm
By the way, I love taking my five figure self out of six figure DC and into other five figure towns like Baltimore and Cleveland.

$6.50 for a 12 oz draft of St. Benardus #12 at Bier Markt Cleveland and three craft brews for $5 at Mahaffeys in B-more. Nice.

st. benardus on draught would make me give into the darkside.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on July 24, 2010, 08:55:46 am
Are IPAs the Rolling Rock of the '10s?    I love the stuff, but it seems like it's become the default drink for everyone (or at least everyone with good taste).

Anyone been to Meridian Pint yet?   Incredible selection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 25, 2010, 11:15:44 am
went to the CommonWealth (http://www.commonwealthgastropub.com/) in columbia heights last night (shocking how much the 14th & irving area has changed).

started off with the Southampton Double White Ale, on tap.  if you like witbier (belgian white beer), you'll love this beer's complex dense flavors.  i'm a fan of witbier, this one gets an A.  very drinkable on a hot summer day but the 6.7% alcohol sneaks up on you.

at one point i tried a pint of Belhaven Twisted Thistle IPA for a change of pace.  quite tasty as well.  i'm not sure what thistle tastes like but i'm assuming it's contributing to this beer's slightly unusual bitterness.  i quite liked it but it couldn't compete with the double white so i went back.

also had scotch eggs for the first time... woa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on July 25, 2010, 08:59:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 23, 2010, 12:01:20 pm
This place (which puts to shame any bar in DC) has Pliny the Elder on tap for $6.50.

www.brouwerscafe.com/draught.pdf

I'll drink one for you when I'm there in a couple of weeks. I don't think you can get Pliny in these parts, can you?

I recently made the acquaintence of Green Flash IPA and Hop Rod Rye IPA, both of which were excellent.

Wow, you can drink a beer you can't get here in a bar that is better than any bar here. You're awesome.
One day I want to be awesome and go to Baltimore and Cleveland and drink awesome beer for a couple bucks cheaper.
Cunt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 25, 2010, 10:19:39 pm
Sounds like you've had a few too many for a Sunday night. Welcome to the beer thread.

Quote from: slappy on July 25, 2010, 08:59:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 23, 2010, 12:01:20 pm
This place (which puts to shame any bar in DC) has Pliny the Elder on tap for $6.50.

www.brouwerscafe.com/draught.pdf

I'll drink one for you when I'm there in a couple of weeks. I don't think you can get Pliny in these parts, can you?

I recently made the acquaintence of Green Flash IPA and Hop Rod Rye IPA, both of which were excellent.

Wow, you can drink a beer you can't get here in a bar that is better than any bar here. You're awesome.
One day I want to be awesome and go to Baltimore and Cleveland and drink awesome beer for a couple bucks cheaper.
Cunt.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 27, 2010, 02:37:36 pm
no mention of Beer Week (http://dcbeerweek.net/)?  anyone catch any of the events?

if i wasn't so busy and/or lazy, i'd contemplate going to the Big Hunt tonight: http://thebighunt.net/events.html - 2 specials kegs from Bell's on offer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 27, 2010, 03:04:36 pm
Been too slammed at work to go to any of the events (it was also a lot easier when I worked 5 minutes from the Hunt, but then again I was also 20lbs heavier as a result of going there every day) but am planning on hitting the Hunt tonight.

The other keg from Bells is HOPSLAM!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on August 27, 2010, 03:09:36 pm
All you lucky dc bastards with your beers and bars  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 27, 2010, 03:11:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 27, 2010, 02:37:36 pm
no mention of Beer Week (http://dcbeerweek.net/)?  anyone catch any of the events?


Bitches and Bastards, in particular?  Wish I'd been able to make that. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 30, 2010, 08:25:46 am
My friend heard that Fat Tire will be coming our way next month.  here's hoping it isn't a rumor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 30, 2010, 10:07:33 am
Not to be a slave to the critics, but it doesn't even rate among the top 50 amber ales.

http://beeradvocate.com/lists/style/128

I would pay for a hundred Nugget Nectars before you could get me to drink a free Fat Tire. And you should do the same!


Quote from: K8teebug on August 30, 2010, 08:25:46 am
My friend heard that Fat Tire will be coming our way next month.  here's hoping it isn't a rumor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 30, 2010, 10:14:38 am
For the second year in a row, I somehow planned my vacation the same week as DC Beer Week.

In spite of that, I did manage to make the most of my time away.

En route the my destination, I visited the Ommegang Brewery and the Cooperstown Brewery. I had already tried everything Ommegang was sampling, but it was nice to try them six at a time.

Coming home, we stopped off at Troegg's and sampled a bunch of stuff.

We went to the Olde Saratoga Brewery in Saratoga Springs, NY, where they serve you six ounce glasses of as much FREE beer as you want. Yes, you heard that right. Some nights they even have free food. They make beer for Mendocino and Kingfisher. Not the best beer in the world, but above average. We focused on the Mendocino Imperial Barleywine, Imperial IPA, and Imperial Stout.

And to top it off, we went twice to the Dieu De Ciel brewpub in Montreal. Had many different beers, but the best was the Peche Mortel (currently #15 on the Beeer Advocate top 100). Brought home some Dieu De Ciel and some Unibroue.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 30, 2010, 10:36:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 30, 2010, 10:07:33 am
I would pay for a hundred Nugget Nectars before you could get me to drink a free Fat Tire. And you should do the same!


Fat Tire is much better out of the tap that out of the bottle.  I just had it out of a bottle for the first time & while it was ok, it's hardly the Holy Grail people make it out to be.

Not sure by the comment whether you dislike Nugget Nectar but I think that stuff is superb.  I'm rationing what little I have left of that (along with my Flying Mouflan).

Not sure if this has been mentioned but Quarry House in SS has Ten-Fidy on tap and it's apparently barrel femented or something liek that?  Comes out darker and heavier than it does out of the can.  VERY good but at $14 a glass it isn't a beer you can drin k all evening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 30, 2010, 10:44:51 am
Nugget Nectar is definitely among my top 5 beers.

I've been rationing as well. Only have three left then I'll have to wait until January. May have to get a six pack of Red Rocket Ale to tide me over until Nugget Nectar is released again.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 30, 2010, 10:36:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 30, 2010, 10:07:33 am
I would pay for a hundred Nugget Nectars before you could get me to drink a free Fat Tire. And you should do the same!


Fat Tire is much better out of the tap that out of the bottle.  I just had it out of a bottle for the first time & while it was ok, it's hardly the Holy Grail people make it out to be.

Not sure by the comment whether you dislike Nugget Nectar but I think that stuff is superb.  I'm rationing what little I have left of that (along with my Flying Mouflan).

Not sure if this has been mentioned but Quarry House in SS has Ten-Fidy on tap and it's apparently barrel femented or something liek that?  Comes out darker and heavier than it does out of the can.  VERY good but at $14 a glass it isn't a beer you can drin k all evening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 30, 2010, 10:51:45 am
since we're sharing beer-on-vacation stories: i drank plenty of beer during my recent trip to ukraine (t'was effen HOT, needed to keep hydrated).  ukrainian beers are for the most part unremarkable, your typical assortment or easy-drinking pilsners and lagers.

one brew, however, really stood out: Obolon's Bile.  it's pronounced "bee-leh" and it means white.  it's a delicious cross between a german hefeweizen and a belgian whitbier (more info here (http://www.corrupt.org/news/alcohol_review_obolon_bile_beer)).  i couldn't get enough of the stuff.  reviews on beer advocate (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/601/52822) confirm that i'm not the only person who thinks the stuff is really tasty.  supposedly you can buy it in bottles in north america.  i wouldn't bother with any other Obolon beer unless you're looking for something inexpensive to chug, but their Bile (bee-leh!) is worth seeking out.

(http://www.corrupt.org/drupal/files/images/biale_big.jpg)

(http://beeradvocate.com/im/beers/52822.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on August 30, 2010, 11:03:48 am
i drank miller lite out of a can all weekend.  they went down like water and i couldn't stop drinking them.  i thought it odd that i only found myself peeing in the woods and not really getting hammered.  but maybe hammered is overrated and i should just be happy with the fact that sometimes beer in a can is ok.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 30, 2010, 11:15:10 am
Anyone know how long the Hopslam keg lasted at Big Hunt on Friday?   Big fan of the nugget nectar as well.  Seems to taste significantly better on tap though.  Tried the Lagunitas Hopstoopid over the weekend.  Thought it stood up to the hopslam pretty well
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 30, 2010, 11:22:37 am
I love Fat Tire.  I pretty much only drink drafts when I travel to places that have it.

My favorites right now are Allagash White and Oliver Three Spires.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 30, 2010, 11:24:43 am
Sometimes beer in a can is better than ok.

(http://www.leisurenouveau.com/images/prod/Oskar_Blues-Gubna.jpg)


Quote from: walkonby on August 30, 2010, 11:03:48 am
i drank miller lite out of a can all weekend.  they went down like water and i couldn't stop drinking them.  i thought it odd that i only found myself peeing in the woods and not really getting hammered.  but maybe hammered is overrated and i should just be happy with the fact that sometimes beer in a can is ok.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 30, 2010, 11:49:19 am
10 minutes

Quote from: Bagley on August 30, 2010, 11:15:10 am
Anyone know how long the Hopslam keg lasted at Big Hunt on Friday?   Big fan of the nugget nectar as well.  Seems to taste significantly better on tap though.  Tried the Lagunitas Hopstoopid over the weekend.  Thought it stood up to the hopslam pretty well
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on August 30, 2010, 12:11:07 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on August 30, 2010, 11:22:37 am
I love Fat Tire.  I pretty much only drink drafts when I travel to places that have it.

My favorites right now are Allagash White and Oliver Three Spires.

Fat Tire seems to have a decent distributor in NC as it was even in grocery stores on the Outer Banks this summer.
I kept it local by getting growlers from Outer Banks Brewing Station. Their Lemongrass Wheat Ale is good for hot days on the dunes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 10, 2010, 01:15:11 pm
Hey Walkonby, check out what's on tap at Dupont Paradiso

On Tap at PPDupont:
St. Bernardus Abt 12
Lagunitas A little Sumpin Sumpin
Harpoon Triticus
Weyerbacher Double Simcoe
BFM Biere Ambree au Tarry Suchong
Ommegang Rare Vos
La Rulles Estivale
Silly Super 64
Avery White Rascal
Rogue Brutal Bitter
Del Ducato Sally Brown Baracco
Allagash Fluxus 2010
On Cask:
Oliver?s Bishop?s Breakfast
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on September 10, 2010, 03:00:20 pm
oh those gay parts of town . . . they sure do know what's great against the lips.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Joke Insurance on September 13, 2010, 09:04:49 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 15, 2009, 12:26:07 pm
I'm really digging this:
(http://legalbeer.com/images/founders%20breakfast%20stout.jpg)

I think you can find that at either Ramparts Tavern or Rustico Restaurant, both in Alexandria.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Joke Insurance on September 13, 2010, 09:38:09 am
Here is what I tried last month after going to Total Wine & Beverage and the Target in Burke. And the only beer that I did not enjoy throughly was the Pilsner Urquell:


(http://www.olddominion.com/odimages/beer_oakbarrelstout.png)

(http://www.belchingmonkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/img_3442-225x300.jpg)

(http://www.drunkenpolack.com/images/otterris.JPG)

(http://blogs.eveningsun.com/troublebrewing/full.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l686livpOl1qb5sxlo1_400.jpg)

(http://costa-bar-supplies.com/costa/images/PILSNER%20URQUELL%20BEER%20COSTA%20BAR%20SUPPLIES%20COM.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/HobgoblinBeer.jpg)

(http://legalbeer.com/images/new%20holland%20dragons%20milk.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 24, 2010, 07:48:42 am
Had this from the tap last night. A truly world class beer. Thankfully not as crazy as the Goose Island Bourbon Stout.

(http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/1/13763-69092-beerjpg-550x.jpg)

Also had this from the tap. Not in the same league, but still very good.

(http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/founders-nemesis-2010.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on October 19, 2010, 07:06:56 pm
in the country, if you live there . . . it is difficult to find good beer, sometimes because the snobby owners of the store thinks people in the area only want "whatever" microbrews.  so i was elated when i came across

(http://atlantabeermaster.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Stone-Vertical-Epic-101010.png)

a few days later, actually tonight, i was in a good mood so i opened up one of

(http://www.drunkenpolack.com/images/888.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 22, 2010, 03:18:37 pm
(Not wanting to start a new thread so I'm borrowing this one.)

Hey Seth, this would make a nice addition to your bar selection.

Dixie Elixirs (http://dixieelixirs.com)

(http://dixieelixirs.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/dixie-bottles.png)

At the moment, the thing that I'm the most curious about is why the dark brown bottle is taller and the silver/clear one is ever so slightly different in shape.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on October 23, 2010, 07:47:46 pm
another score in the country . . . a special limited edition 200th munich oktoberfest mug / beer can combo

(http://bythepint.com/sites/default/files/images/paulaner-wiesn-bier-liter-can-200th-anniversary-oktoberfest.preview.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 16, 2010, 01:16:28 pm
(http://thepintglass.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/delirium-tremens-beer-16001.jpg)

finally got around to trying delirum tremens.

people have been talking up DT as if it was the holy grail of beer.  maybe my expectations were too high... or maybe it just isn't my idea of the perfect beer.  it was certainly above average, i liked the creamy feeling each sip left behind, but it was almost too sweet for me.  at that price there are other beers i'd rather spend my money on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 16, 2010, 01:58:02 pm
Duvel>Delirium Tremens in terms of Strong Belgian Pale Ales.

Quote from: sweetcell on December 16, 2010, 01:16:28 pm
(http://thepintglass.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/delirium-tremens-beer-16001.jpg)

finally got around to trying delirum tremens.

people have been talking up DT as if it was the holy grail of beer.  maybe my expectations were too high... or maybe it just isn't my idea of the perfect beer.  it was certainly above average, i liked the creamy feeling each sip left behind, but it was almost too sweet for me.  at that price there are other beers i'd rather spend my money on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on December 16, 2010, 02:01:43 pm
I've been wanting to try a Delirium Tremens. Sweet and creamy sounds good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on December 16, 2010, 08:32:25 pm
(http://www.gear6.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fat-cat-beer1-400x300.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on December 16, 2010, 08:58:32 pm
Man, that stuff is not good...


Quote from: walkonby on December 16, 2010, 08:32:25 pm
(http://www.gear6.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fat-cat-beer1-400x300.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 16, 2010, 11:00:25 pm
Time of the year for good ole Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on December 17, 2010, 09:10:25 am
And Anchor Christmas!

Has anyone had 21st Amendment Back in Black?  love.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 09:54:22 am
Pretty decent, but the Victory Yakima Twilight is a better model of the same style, imo.

Quote from: K8teebug on December 17, 2010, 09:10:25 am

Has anyone had 21st Amendment Back in Black?  love.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 09:57:38 am
There are probably better winter seasonals, but for value, Celebration can't be beat.

$7.99/6 pack minus $1 off coupon at Total Wines. Didn't quite get why they're trying to sell the 12 pack for something like $16.99...maybe they figured heavy drinkers aren't good at math.

Quote from: Bagley on December 16, 2010, 11:00:25 pm
Time of the year for good ole Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 17, 2010, 11:21:45 am
This year's Celebration Ale is good but for some reason I wasn't blown away by it.  Not sure why.  I really enjoyed it last year.

Corsendonk's Xmas Ale has been very good in the past as well.  Picked up a bottle but haven't had it yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 11:48:27 am
Those were my findings as well.

Though I was drinking it last week in St John, USVI, so that helped the taste a bit.

St John was a craft beer wasteland. I drank Sierra products and Guinness Foreign Extra while there.

The Trader Joe's Vintage Ale is always worth checking out ($4.99/26 oz bottle). It's a strong dark Belgian with a different recipe each year, made by Unibroue. Just had some 2010 Ale while putting up the tree Sunday, it was quite tasty.


Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 17, 2010, 11:21:45 am
This year's Celebration Ale is good but for some reason I wasn't blown away by it.  Not sure why.  I really enjoyed it last year.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on December 17, 2010, 01:44:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 11:48:27 am
Those were my findings as well.

Though I was drinking it last week in St John, USVI, so that helped the taste a bit.

St John was a craft beer wasteland. I drank Sierra products and Guinness Foreign Extra while there.


Did you happen to catch who brewed the Guinness FES? Carib brews it in BVI. Curious if USVI is getting the new supply from St. James via the mainland or the Carib variety. The Carib version has a lower gravity profile that would be more drinkable for the tropics.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 03:20:10 pm
Good question!

I was aware of the difference you are alluding to, but forgot to check the bottle. However, some googling just told me the Carib FES has an ABV of 6.5. The stuff I was drinking in St. John was 7.5 ABV, the same as the stuff we're now getting here. So I would guess it was via the mainland. They sold it in 6 packs for $11.99 (I've only seen it in four packs here), so that was actually one of the few "bargains" we encountered on anything in St. John.

They also had various beers by something called St. John Brewing Company. We had a pretty mediocre six pack of IPA (bought it when we first got there until we discovered a better beer store). Turns out it's just stuff shipped in by Shipyard Brewing Company from Maine.

The one store had a handful of Belgians (e.g. Chimay), but at $29/4 pack (for Chimay) (vs. 11.99/6 pack for FES and Celebration Ale), we passed.

Quote from: slappy on December 17, 2010, 01:44:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 11:48:27 am
Those were my findings as well.

Though I was drinking it last week in St John, USVI, so that helped the taste a bit.

St John was a craft beer wasteland. I drank Sierra products and Guinness Foreign Extra while there.


Did you happen to catch who brewed the Guinness FES? Carib brews it in BVI. Curious if USVI is getting the new supply from St. James via the mainland or the Carib variety. The Carib version has a lower gravity profile that would be more drinkable for the tropics.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 03:35:24 pm
did you go to Woodys Seafood??  Great bar and food whenever I'm down at St John  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on December 17, 2010, 03:38:30 pm
anybody try this?

(http://www.halftimebeverage.com/prodimg/4578.jpg)

i have a four pack i have been sitting on for three years.  for what i paid for it, i'm "waiting" to drink it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 03:54:32 pm
My wife got some conch fritters to go from there.

Other than a few to go meals for the beach, we did our own cooking. We had a cottage with full kitchen and great porch view of Cruz Bay for $700/week, within walking distance of Cruz Bay, didn't even rent a Jeep. Awesome and surprisingly affordable vacation.


Quote from: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 03:35:24 pm
did you go to Woodys Seafood??  Great bar and food whenever I'm down at St John  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 03:58:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 03:54:32 pm
My wife got some conch fritters to go from there.

Other than a few to go meals for the beach, we did our own cooking. We had a cottage with full kitchen and great porch view of Cruz Bay for $700/week, within walking distance of Cruz Bay, didn't even rent a Jeep. Awesome and surprisingly affordable vacation.


Quote from: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 03:35:24 pm
did you go to Woodys Seafood??  Great bar and food whenever I'm down at St John  ;D

yes, the conch fritters from there are awesome.  Cinnamon Bay is where we usually stay as it has cottages but we did the camping stuff.  Dirt cheap for a whole week too, I need to go back  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 04:02:49 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 17, 2010, 03:38:30 pm
anybody try this?

(http://www.halftimebeverage.com/prodimg/4578.jpg)

i have a four pack i have been sitting on for three years.  for what i paid for it, i'm "waiting" to drink it.


three years??  doesn't beer go bad after like 6 months?  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 04:04:26 pm
The cheap stuff does, but the good stuff with higher ABV's doesn't.


Quote from: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 04:02:49 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 17, 2010, 03:38:30 pm
anybody try this?

(http://www.halftimebeverage.com/prodimg/4578.jpg)

i have a four pack i have been sitting on for three years.  for what i paid for it, i'm "waiting" to drink it.


three years??  doesn't beer go bad after like 6 months?  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 04:06:52 pm
I jogged from Cruz Bay to Cinnamon Bay and back a couple of days(and to Hawksnest and back on the other days).

That was a bitch of a run.

Quote from: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 03:58:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 03:54:32 pm
My wife got some conch fritters to go from there.

Other than a few to go meals for the beach, we did our own cooking. We had a cottage with full kitchen and great porch view of Cruz Bay for $700/week, within walking distance of Cruz Bay, didn't even rent a Jeep. Awesome and surprisingly affordable vacation.


Quote from: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 03:35:24 pm
did you go to Woodys Seafood??  Great bar and food whenever I'm down at St John  ;D

yes, the conch fritters from there are awesome.  Cinnamon Bay is where we usually stay as it has cottages but we did the camping stuff.  Dirt cheap for a whole week too, I need to go back  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on December 17, 2010, 07:10:21 pm
USVI's are pleasantly underrated.
The entire Caribbean needs a good craft brewery that goes beyond the lager in somewhat decent quality.
A witbier would be a logical step. Hoegaarden uses spices from Grenada and Curaçao orange peels.


Quote from: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 04:06:52 pm
I jogged from Cruz Bay to Cinnamon Bay and back a couple of days(and to Hawksnest and back on the other days).

That was a bitch of a run.

Quote from: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 03:58:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 17, 2010, 03:54:32 pm
My wife got some conch fritters to go from there.

Other than a few to go meals for the beach, we did our own cooking. We had a cottage with full kitchen and great porch view of Cruz Bay for $700/week, within walking distance of Cruz Bay, didn't even rent a Jeep. Awesome and surprisingly affordable vacation.


Quote from: wml7 on December 17, 2010, 03:35:24 pm
did you go to Woodys Seafood??  Great bar and food whenever I'm down at St John  ;D

yes, the conch fritters from there are awesome.  Cinnamon Bay is where we usually stay as it has cottages but we did the camping stuff.  Dirt cheap for a whole week too, I need to go back  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on January 07, 2011, 12:24:52 pm
I will be hitting this festival up tomorrow for the third year in a row: http://www.bigbeersfestival.com/ There is nothing like drinking strong ales at an elevation of 8150ft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 07, 2011, 02:01:47 pm
Didn't they stop making Thomas Hardy?  I loved that beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 07, 2011, 02:02:45 pm
Yeah, it's been retired.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1533/16858

ENJOY IT!  It is wonderful!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on January 07, 2011, 02:07:25 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on January 07, 2011, 02:02:45 pm
Yeah, it's been retired.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1533/16858

ENJOY IT!  It is wonderful!

wow . . . then i got the last year it was brewed.  i guess i should drink it then.  been sitting on it long enough.  to the new year.  can't wait.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 07, 2011, 02:18:36 pm
Ok, fellow beer geeks. How many of the top 20 beers on this list have you tried?

http://beeradvocate.com/lists/top

I have nine

Founders KBS
Founders Breakfast Stout
Bells Hopslam
St. Beranardus 12
Three Floyds Dreadnaught
Dieu De Ciel Peche Mortel
Stone Russian Imerial Stout
Ballast Pint Sculpin
Deschutes the Abyss

If anyone wants to send me anything else from the top 20 list, i'll take it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 07, 2011, 02:37:25 pm
ha ha.  2!  I was just reading about Kate the Great and it makes me want to drive to NH in March.  Plus, it's named Kate!  (but, I will be running alot and will sadly not have time for crazy trips for beer drinking).

Trappistes Rochefort 10
Stone Imperial Russian Stout

Have any of you ventured up to Columbia to the Perfect Pour?  Highly recommended.  I call it beer disneyland.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 07, 2011, 02:47:24 pm
The Whole Foods in Fairfax has been my go to beer place of late. World class beer at $4 for a 12 oz glass at one station, and $3.66 for 16 ozs at the other two. Depending on what beer you have, you're sometimes drinking a glass of  beer straight from the tap for considerably cheaper than what you'd pay for it in a bomber.

I've read they now have beer on tap at the Tysons and Alexandria Whole Foods as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on January 07, 2011, 02:59:24 pm
Anyone know anything about Port City (http://www.portcitybrewing.com/)?

The sign has been up forever, and it seems it's finally opening sometime soon.  Right at this point, I'm less interested in the taste and more interested that I can walk to their tasting room :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 07, 2011, 03:12:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 07, 2011, 02:47:24 pm
The Whole Foods in Fairfax has been my go to beer place of late. World class beer at $4 for a 12 oz glass at one station, and $3.66 for 16 ozs at the other two.

stupid MD liquor laws... grumble grumble.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 07, 2011, 03:21:42 pm
I hear ya, sweetcell.

You should seriously go to Perfect Pour.

Victoria Gastropub is also going to start selling growlers soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 07, 2011, 03:28:01 pm
The whole growler thing doesn't really work for me.

I mean, once you start drinking it, you have to finish it in a day or two, right? Between my wife and I, it usually takes us a week to get through 64 ozs of beer (mind you, we tend to favor the bigger 7-12% abv sippers.)

And the prices, at least at Whole Foods, oftentimes are more than if you just get a six pack or bomber.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 07, 2011, 03:45:41 pm
I always wonder of MD liquor laws have something to do with Maryland not getting Founders beers, when so many other surrounding states do (see map)

Founders may be my favorite brewery of them all.


http://www.foundersbrewing.com/beer-locator

Quote from: sweetcell on January 07, 2011, 03:12:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 07, 2011, 02:47:24 pm
The Whole Foods in Fairfax has been my go to beer place of late. World class beer at $4 for a 12 oz glass at one station, and $3.66 for 16 ozs at the other two.

stupid MD liquor laws... grumble grumble.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 07, 2011, 03:59:27 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on January 07, 2011, 03:21:42 pm
You should seriously go to Perfect Pour.

never heard of the place, so i looked it up.  two thoughts: 1) great selection, and 2) from where i am in rockville, VA is closer  :-\

also, i love that this is the featured item on the page that google sent me to:
(http://www.perfectpourcolumbia.com/images/feckin.jpg)

Quote from: James Ford on January 07, 2011, 03:28:01 pm
The whole growler thing doesn't really work for me.

makes sense, since growlers aren't meant for 2 slow-sippin' people.  only time i've seen growlers broken out is when there is for a large group, or a few people who intend on doing more than just sipping.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 07, 2011, 04:06:50 pm
That said, when Sculpin IPA (#1 IPA on beeradvocate.com) first came here, it was considerably cheaper by the growler than by the bomber. So we made ourselves drink the 64 ozs over two days.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on January 07, 2011, 04:12:58 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on January 07, 2011, 02:37:25 pm
Have any of you ventured up to Columbia to the Perfect Pour?  Highly recommended.  I call it beer disneyland.

The Perfect Pour and buying tickets for 930 shows sans ticket charges at Merriweather are about the only consolations for driving to Columbia from DC everyday for work.

If only some of the good midwest beers (Bells, Founders, New Holland, Great Lakes, etc) would distribute in Maryland it'd be perfect.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 07, 2011, 04:33:45 pm
They are going to sell "mini'growlers" so it would be about 2 pints of beer.  So, it would be perfect for two people!  Otherwise, I would say my husband and I are not growler buyers either.

Yeah, I really wish they would sell Bells here.  I heart Bells.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dave24 on January 07, 2011, 04:48:00 pm
Which Bells are you talking about?  You can find many of their beers around town, both bottled and on-tap.  You just have to know where to look.  But, yes - they distribute to DC/VA/MD.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on January 07, 2011, 05:19:08 pm
Quote from: dave24 on January 07, 2011, 04:48:00 pm
Which Bells are you talking about?  You can find many of their beers around town, both bottled and on-tap.  You just have to know where to look.  But, yes - they distribute to DC/VA/MD.

Yeah, I can find Bells all over DC and usually just make a total wine trip (to VA) every other month or so and stock up, it would just be really nice if I could find it conveniently in Maryland while I'm out for lunch running errands.

http://www.bellsbeer.com/beer-finder/

They don't distribute in Maryland directly, I even confirmed it with Larry Bell last summer when I ran into him in Kalamazoo at their brew pub asking him when they would distribute here.  They've no intention of distributing here anytime soon.  He gave me the reason, but I honestly didn't really understand much of it, had to do with distribution issues/MD laws is all I got out of it.  Which seems to be prevalent with other Michigan beers especially trying to get into Maryland.  That's not to say you can't find Bells on occasion in Maryland stores/restaurants, but it's not through a direct distribution with Bells, much like finding dogfish head in Michigan where they don't distribute, it's all through secondaries and on a limited basis.

edit:  I stand corrected, dogfish is available in MI.  I could've sworn it wasn't last I knew.  Regardless, at some point it was in some state who's name I can't recall that didn't have a wholesale agreement with the brewery and it was there through a secondary distributor, if memory serves.. which clearly it does not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on January 07, 2011, 07:17:09 pm
Wegman's also has good selection of Bells. They still had some Christmas Ale, Winter White and the ubiquitous Two Hearted Ale last week.
The RedRocks in Old Town had it on tap a few weeks ago.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 08, 2011, 08:14:54 pm
A little birdie told me to look for Bell's Hopslam in stores on Tuesday. Don't wait until Wednesday if you want some.

Also up this month: Founders Imperial Stout and Founders Double Trouble IPA.

Then first week of Feb: Troegs Nugget Nectar.

Wow!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on January 08, 2011, 08:59:29 pm
went to sweetwater tavern this evening.  haven't been in awhile.  was super upset that i just missed the best beer they make . . . saint nicks weizenbock.  look for it next december.  you'll be gald you did.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 10, 2011, 04:49:03 pm
I sure wish it was warmer out, or that ChruchKey was closer to a Metro station...

In addition to a lot of new gym memberships and diet plans starting up, the beginning of each year means it's time for Bell's Hopslam. This honeyed Double IPA has huge hype. You can decide for yourself whether the drinkable 10%-abv Michigan beer measures up by getting a first taste starting at 4pm at ChurchKey tonight. Wanna get geeky about it? Order Hopslam on draft and bottle and compare notes. They'll be pouring both.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 10, 2011, 06:35:22 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 08, 2011, 08:14:54 pm
Then first week of Feb: Troegs Nugget Nectar.


I'm thinking of trekking up to Harrisburg when this comes out....and buying as much as my car will hold.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 10, 2011, 07:01:00 pm
Enjoy your drive tomorrow.

?From Troegs Brewing?s Facebook page, ?Nugget Nectar cases, six packs and growlers will be available at the Troegs Brewery Tasting Room starting TUESDAY, JANUARY 11 at 10 a.m 22 ounce bottles will be available in a few weeks. Nugget Nectar starts shipping to wholesalers next week and will be in all markets by the first week of February.?

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 10, 2011, 06:35:22 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 08, 2011, 08:14:54 pm
Then first week of Feb: Troegs Nugget Nectar.


I'm thinking of trekking up to Harrisburg when this comes out....and buying as much as my car will hold.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2011, 10:10:18 am
Ok....maybe this weekend?   ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 11, 2011, 10:21:26 am
I'm a big fan of Nugget Nectar myself.

I think Total Wine had it last year for about $10.99 a six pack, minus a dollar if you join their email list and get their coupons...it's not really limited like Hopslam, and is on the shelvesfor awhile...

My advice for either Hopslam or Nugget Nectar is to try to drink it all within three months of production. After that, it will still taste great, but you'll start losing that wonderful hoppiness that it initially had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 11, 2011, 11:08:40 am
re:  bells in MD.  Perfect pour carries every beer you can get in MD.  I asked them about Bells and they said they don't distribute here.  Luckily, DC is just a short drive away!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 11, 2011, 11:12:27 am
I know it's a travesty for some Marylanders to cross into Virginia, but you'll probably find the prices in VA cheaper than DC, as well as the lower sales tax.  ;D

Quote from: K8teebug on January 11, 2011, 11:08:40 am
re:  bells in MD.  Perfect pour carries every beer you can get in MD.  I asked them about Bells and they said they don't distribute here.  Luckily, DC is just a short drive away!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2011, 11:52:58 am
That's very true.  I drove over to VA to acquire Flying Mouflan last year and picked it up for ~$6.50 a bottle, as opposed to $9-10 in MD.

Not worth it for a bottle or two but if you buy in bulk it pays off.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2011, 11:54:10 am
Meant to also say I still have a couple bottles of Nugget Nectar and drank one over the weekend.  Still very enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 11, 2011, 12:00:04 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2011, 11:52:58 am
Not worth it for a bottle or two but if you buy in bulk it pays off.

we do that for wine.  once every few months we hit up a Trader Joe's in VA and buy a few cases. 

until i start running more regularly, i'm going to hold off on buying beer in large quantities   :-\
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 13, 2011, 04:13:09 pm
Split the first of our 12 HopSlam bottles last night. Best beer on earth when fresh?

Not many beers are worth $20/six pack, but this one is. Debating buying another six pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on January 13, 2011, 04:14:33 pm
$20 is a bargain, paid $25/6 last night in Van Ness
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 13, 2011, 09:37:07 pm
$20 a sixer, 74.99 a case at Magruders

good shit
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 13, 2011, 10:11:10 pm
Meant to stop and get some this evening.  My local shop will probably price the stuff at $30 a bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on January 14, 2011, 02:58:34 pm
Just went to Magruders and did a thorough search for hopslam.  Unless they're hiding it, they're sold out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 14, 2011, 03:02:44 pm
really? the magruders in Ch Ch? I was there at about 7pm last night and they had at least 10 cases on the floor and (so they said) more in back?

I guess its not out of the bounds of possibility but I'm pretty surprised
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on January 14, 2011, 03:19:28 pm
Yes, I probably could have asked but I have some hopslam at home already so no big deal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 14, 2011, 04:18:33 pm
The Fairfax Whole Foods sold out of all 25 cases in a matter of hours on Tuesday. They had a one case limit per customer, and apparently everyone was getting a case. Or so I surmised from their facebook page.

I got three six packs in all from two different locations, neither at the aforementioned WF.


Quote from: brennser on January 14, 2011, 03:02:44 pm
really? the magruders in Ch Ch? I was there at about 7pm last night and they had at least 10 cases on the floor and (so they said) more in back?

I guess its not out of the bounds of possibility but I'm pretty surprised
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 16, 2011, 08:31:00 am
I stend corrected - talked to the guys at Magruders yesterday and they sais it sound old in a matter of hours Friday morning. Guess I was just lucky to have stopped by Thursday evening
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 16, 2011, 01:36:36 pm
Never got my hands on any.  Lesson learned.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on January 16, 2011, 04:40:34 pm
here is the list of the beers on draught at the wonderful restaurant i went to last night:

Coors Light $3
Pabst Blue Ribbon $3
Crispin Cider Minnesota $4
Victory Prima Pils Pennsylvania $4
Brooklyn Lager New York $4
Allagash White Maine $5
Victory Golden Monkey Pennsylvania $4
Victory-Dogfish-Stone Saison du Buff Pennsylvania $5
Founders Cerise Cherry Ale Michigan $5
Southern Tier Pumking New York $5
Highland Gaelic Ale North Carolina $4
Rogue Hazelnut Brown Nectar Oregon $5
Rogue Imperial IPA Oregon $5
Flying Dog Simcoe Hop IPA Maryland $4
Victory Yakima Glory Black IPA Pennsylvania $4
Duck Rabbit Doppelbock North Carolina $5
Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout New York $4
Jefferson Reserve Bourbon Barrel Stout Kentucky $5

here is the bottle:

Dogfish Head-Victory-Stone Saison du BUFF 12oz $6
Allagash Tripel 750ml $14
Founders Backwoods Scotch Ale 12oz $8
Stone Brewing 2008 Old Guardian Barleywine 220z $13
Rogue Morimoto Black Obi Soba Ale 220z $10
Stone Brewing 2008 Russian Imperial Stout 220z $13
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on January 18, 2011, 11:38:26 am
(http://www.esaba.com/cats/catimagessimple35/685213.jpg)

"I've got to stop drinking like this. These morning afters are doing me in!"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on January 18, 2011, 11:46:12 am
Quote from: walkonby on January 16, 2011, 04:40:34 pm
Stone Brewing 2008 Russian Imperial Stout 220z $13

Wow, where is this?  Funny that with such a great beer selection, they still pander to tasteless hipsters with PBR.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on January 18, 2011, 12:22:16 pm
this awesome restaurant way out in the "boonies" according to most, i'm sure, in the dc area . . . called the local chop and grill house, harrisonburg, va.


http://www.localchops.com/

i'd say they rival most of the places we've tried in dc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2011, 01:30:17 pm
Address
56 West Gay Street

too easy

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on January 18, 2011, 01:36:42 pm
Quote from: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2011, 01:30:17 pm
Address
56 West Gay Street

too easy



(http://api.ning.com/files/jHG431Xh90T0-aotnWwy8SP9qMD-637mU8rjyV8wKgpZ0pPkcHCGOEes7q9Ix-RphkfQdNesaPPJJoIBsOOs*RHeMHwKlNCo/cat_laughing_out_loud.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 18, 2011, 08:09:28 pm
Lower your cholesterol.  Drink Guinness  (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Guinness-is-good-for-you-say-medical-experts-113839559.html) 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on January 18, 2011, 11:37:02 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on January 18, 2011, 11:46:12 am
[Wow, where is this?  Funny that with such a great beer selection, they still pander to tasteless hipsters with PBR.

the same can be said of Meridian Pint...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on January 19, 2011, 10:13:00 am
Quote from: Doctor Doom on January 18, 2011, 11:37:02 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on January 18, 2011, 11:46:12 am
[Wow, where is this?  Funny that with such a great beer selection, they still pander to tasteless hipsters with PBR.

the same can be said of Meridian Pint...



Meridian Pint is hipster dbag ground zero
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 19, 2011, 10:34:35 am
Quote from: Shemp on January 18, 2011, 08:09:28 pm
Lower your cholesterol.  Drink Guinness  (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Guinness-is-good-for-you-say-medical-experts-113839559.html) 


Which Guinness provides the best medicine?  Hope it's the Foreign Extra Stout.  Regular Extra Stout would be good, too.  Draft out of the can......meh.  Easily the least of all the Guinesses.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 19, 2011, 02:20:26 pm
No, that would be "draft" out of the bottle.  It's really terrible now!  No widget anymore, just strange carbonation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 19, 2011, 03:49:55 pm
Oops, I meant bottle.  Awful stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 19, 2011, 04:09:57 pm
man i was confused, though i tend to get murphy's when there is a choice
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 20, 2011, 10:48:38 am
the beer list where I ate last night

BELLS KALAMAZOO STOUT 6
OLD CHUBB SCOTTISH STYLE ALE 4
STONE LEVITATION ALE 6
BELLS HOPSLAM 6  :o :o ;D
DALE?S PALE ALE 4
CALDERA IPA 5
RED SEAL AMBER ALE 6
THE RAVEN SPECIAL LAGER 5
STONE IPA 6
GREAT LAKES DORTMUNDER GOLD LAGER 5
SHINER BOCK 6
SCHLOSS EGGENBERG PILS 6
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 20, 2011, 02:48:51 pm
....and where was that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 20, 2011, 03:26:55 pm
...and is that draft list, or a beer list (Brennser)?

I mean, if it's a bottle list, my basement has it beat...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 20, 2011, 03:29:49 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 20, 2011, 02:48:51 pm
....and where was that?
56 east straight street
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 20, 2011, 03:40:32 pm
its a bottle list, and yes, my basement has it beat too

but given that K'zoo stout retails for 8/9 bucks a sixer and hopslam for 20-25 I thought it was a pretty decent deal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on January 20, 2011, 03:45:06 pm
Quote from: godsshoeshine on January 20, 2011, 03:29:49 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 20, 2011, 02:48:51 pm
....and where was that?
56 east straight street

the place must . . . suck.  ooh, ooh, i made a clever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 20, 2011, 04:16:58 pm
That was my though when I first read your post. Good restaurant price for a bottle of Hopslam.

If it was draft, a different size pour would have helped explain the pricing.

Quote from: brennser on January 20, 2011, 03:40:32 pm
its a bottle list, and yes, my basement has it beat too

but given that K'zoo stout retails for 8/9 bucks a sixer and hopslam for 20-25 I thought it was a pretty decent deal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: beerdrinker on January 21, 2011, 11:33:43 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on January 19, 2011, 10:13:00 am
Quote from: Doctor Doom on January 18, 2011, 11:37:02 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on January 18, 2011, 11:46:12 am
[Wow, where is this?  Funny that with such a great beer selection, they still pander to tasteless hipsters with PBR.

the same can be said of Meridian Pint...



Meridian Pint is hipster dbag ground zero

Really?  I think your referring to Red Derby or Black Cat.  Haven't seen too many hipsters at Meridian Pint.  A bit on the clean cut side but definitely not hipster.  As for PBR, turn your nose down just a bit and learn to appreciate all beer....well...except for Miller Lite and Bud Lite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on January 22, 2011, 10:14:16 am
uh . . oh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 22, 2011, 11:11:37 am
Just as I don't want to fuck every person on earth, I don't want to drink every beer on earth either. It's called having taste.  ;)


Quote from: beerdrinker on January 21, 2011, 11:33:43 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on January 19, 2011, 10:13:00 am
Quote from: Doctor Doom on January 18, 2011, 11:37:02 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on January 18, 2011, 11:46:12 am
[Wow, where is this?  Funny that with such a great beer selection, they still pander to tasteless hipsters with PBR.

the same can be said of Meridian Pint...



Meridian Pint is hipster dbag ground zero

Really?  I think your referring to Red Derby or Black Cat.  Haven't seen too many hipsters at Meridian Pint.  A bit on the clean cut side but definitely not hipster.  As for PBR, turn your nose down just a bit and learn to appreciate all beer....well...except for Miller Lite and Bud Lite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on January 22, 2011, 11:25:22 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 22, 2011, 11:11:37 am
Just as I don't want to fuck every person on earth, I don't want to drink every beer on earth either. It's called having taste.  ;)


Quote from: beerdrinker on January 21, 2011, 11:33:43 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on January 19, 2011, 10:13:00 am
Quote from: Doctor Doom on January 18, 2011, 11:37:02 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on January 18, 2011, 11:46:12 am
[Wow, where is this?  Funny that with such a great beer selection, they still pander to tasteless hipsters with PBR.

the same can be said of Meridian Pint...



Meridian Pint is hipster dbag ground zero

Really?  I think your referring to Red Derby or Black Cat.  Haven't seen too many hipsters at Meridian Pint.  A bit on the clean cut side but definitely not hipster.  As for PBR, turn your nose down just a bit and learn to appreciate all beer....well...except for Miller Lite and Bud Lite.

oh james, don't lie . . . we all know you are the forum whore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2011, 10:15:37 am
I had Bell's Hopslam on draft last night, witin a two minute walk of the 9:30 Club.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 30, 2011, 10:43:10 am
And where would that be James?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2011, 05:06:20 pm
A bar with the initials D.C.

Quote from: Bagley on January 30, 2011, 10:43:10 am
And where would that be James?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 05, 2011, 01:31:15 am
I guess props should be given to local Bell's distributor as an Old Town establishment still had Hopslam as well. Curiosity got me on the second round and I was very pleasantly surprised by Firestone Walkers Double Jack on draft. A well balanced double IPA that was hoppy without getting close to over the top like Hopslam. It was on the sweet side but had a nice malt middle to avoid being too sweet for drinkability. I want to go back and see if the start with Hopslam is affecting my judgement.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 12, 2011, 08:08:15 pm

Did anybody get any Founders Imperial Stout?

I went to three places today. One had sold out. One was limiting your purchase to one 12 oz single. The third had one four pack left, and I got it. Next up, Founders KBS, which will be even harder to grab.

Drank two Founders Double Troubles earlier today. Damn, talk about a beer that sneaks up on you. It's 7pm and I'm done.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 12, 2011, 10:25:15 pm
Gee Rhett, I remember the days when a half a beer would do you in!

Not sure whether to congratulate you or call AA.  :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 13, 2011, 04:28:41 pm
dammit - I'd love to get my hands on some of the imp stout

Quote from: James Ford on February 12, 2011, 08:08:15 pm

Did anybody get any Founders Imperial Stout?

I went to three places today. One had sold out. One was limiting your purchase to one 12 oz single. The third had one four pack left, and I got it. Next up, Founders KBS, which will be even harder to grab.

Drank two Founders Double Troubles earlier today. Damn, talk about a beer that sneaks up on you. It's 7pm and I'm done.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 13, 2011, 10:21:13 pm
I noticed Fairfax Total Wine had Founders Breakfast Stout 4packs last week. They may have had Imperial Stout. I like the Southern Tier Imperial Stouts a little more so I didn't pay close attention.
Isn't it a little early for KBS? I thought it wasn't ready until March?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 13, 2011, 10:38:54 pm
Yes, KBS is in mid-March.

Founders Breakfast Stout is a bit easier to find than Founders Imperial Stout. Not sure why they limit the Imperial Stout so much.

What's your favorite Southern Tier stout? Choklat?

Quote from: slappy on February 13, 2011, 10:21:13 pm
I noticed Fairfax Total Wine had Founders Breakfast Stout 4packs last week. They may have had Imperial Stout. I like the Southern Tier Imperial Stouts a little more so I didn't pay close attention.
Isn't it a little early for KBS? I thought it wasn't ready until March?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 14, 2011, 06:00:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 13, 2011, 10:38:54 pm
Yes, KBS is in mid-March.

Founders Breakfast Stout is a bit easier to find than Founders Imperial Stout. Not sure why they limit the Imperial Stout so much.

What's your favorite Southern Tier stout? Choklat?

Quote from: slappy on February 13, 2011, 10:21:13 pm
I noticed Fairfax Total Wine had Founders Breakfast Stout 4packs last week. They may have had Imperial Stout. I like the Southern Tier Imperial Stouts a little more so I didn't pay close attention.
Isn't it a little early for KBS? I thought it wasn't ready until March?
Yes to Choklat!
I dig the aroma of FBS but for me, I like a higher gravity. I'll have to try their Imperial Stout again. I had it once but was getting a licorice vibe that I didn't like. May have just been some strange batch or serving temperature?
I hope to get some KBS this year and blind taste it to Choklat for a real comparison.

Anyone been to Savor in the past? I'm wondering if it's worth the $.


 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on February 14, 2011, 06:03:03 pm
Founders Imperial Stout tastes like it would be better with a few years of age whereas I don't think Breakfast Stout would really benefit from any aging.  I wish their Imperial Stout wasn't so limited, I've already drank my supply.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2011, 09:22:11 am
Monday's Valentines meal (at home):

Grilled Salmon, sweet potato fries and spinach salad with Lagunitas Lil Sumpin Sumpin Ale

Dessert: Dark Chocolate with Dieu De Ciel's Peche Mortel (sure wish I had brought back more than a six pack from Montreal last summer)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2011, 09:26:12 am
This was the draft beer list I faced at happy hour at Georgetown Birreria Tuesday (guess which two beers were gone by Wednesday?)...can't remember all the prices but nothing was more than $5.

Georgetown:
Bell's Hopslam   $4/12oz
Beer Here Dark Hops   $5/12 oz
Founder?s Double Trouble $3/12oz
Mikkeller Limoncello
Haandbryggeriet Dobbel Dram
Captain Lawrence Freshchester
Firestone Walker Double Jack  $3/12oz
Green Flash Imperial IPA $3.50/12oz.
Ithaca 13th Anniversary
Left Hand Twin Sisters
Mikkeller Koppi Coffee IPA
Oskar Blues Gordon  $3/12 oz
Stone Ruination   $3.50/16 oz
Terrapin Hopsecutioner
Uintas Detour
Yards IPA
On Cask: Troegg's Nuggest Nectar $3.50/16 oz
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2011, 11:05:38 am
If you're a six figure earner with no kids and an affordable mortgage looking for ways to blow your money, it's probably worth it.

Personally, if I'm going to plunk down that kind of money for something beer related, i'd rather just buy $100 or $150 worth of beer and stick it in the basement and have three months worth of beer at my disposal.


Quote from: slappy on February 13, 2011, 10:21:13 pm
Anyone been to Savor in the past? I'm wondering if it's worth the $.


 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2011, 01:53:20 pm
I wonder how well Nugget Nectar holds up in draft form.  Anyone here had it that way?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2011, 03:01:54 pm
Isn't most beer better on tap? Why wouldn't that be the case with NN?

I had a 4 oz sample last week at Churckkey, and it was pretty awesome.


Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2011, 01:53:20 pm
I wonder how well Nugget Nectar holds up in draft form.  Anyone here had it that way?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 17, 2011, 03:21:08 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on February 12, 2011, 10:25:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 12, 2011, 08:08:15 pm
Drank two Founders Double Troubles earlier today. Damn, talk about a beer that sneaks up on you. It's 7pm and I'm done.

Gee Rhett, I remember the days when a half a beer would do you in!

Not sure whether to congratulate you or call AA.  :D

i think AA has a three-drink minimum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2011, 04:06:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 17, 2011, 03:01:54 pm
Isn't most beer better on tap? Why wouldn't that be the case with NN?

I had a 4 oz sample last week at Churckkey, and it was pretty awesome.

I'm not convinced of that - but I concede that most people would disagree with me.

I nearly bought a 1/8 keg of NN last year to take over to a friend's beer box.  Might do it this year if he lets me stixk my head under the tap every day after work. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on February 17, 2011, 05:00:10 pm
Most beer is definitely better on tap than from the bottle.  Bottled beer is pasteurized and preservatives and carbonation are added to make sure it can last a while on the shelf without needing refrigeration.  None of this is done with keg beer, which is why it always needs to be refrigerated and typically tastes smoother and cleaner from the tap.

Savor is well worth it if you're a craft beer fan and want to try some beers you can't typically get in this area.  It's also a nice night out and something different from what you'd typically do on a Fri or Sat.  If you're sweating $110, then this probably isn't the right city for you to begin with. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 18, 2011, 03:40:03 am
There are some variables that could make a tap not as good. Dirty lines to the keg and over/under carbonation, not stored at proper temp. But they'd be the exception not the rule.

Domestic beer kegs generally aren't pasteurized just filtered for bacteria and carbonated to various amounts.
Any foreign brewed beer keg is both pasteurized and filtered for transport, pretty much the same as the bottled.
Cask brews generally aren't pasteurized or have added carbonation beyond the naturally occurring.
(Learned from visiting a friend at Full Sail)

In the UK all kegs are pasteurized, filtered, etc. only casks aren't. (learned at Fullers brewery)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 18, 2011, 08:34:11 am
the problem is the taps are often not clean....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on February 18, 2011, 12:42:28 pm
Belgian Fest
Max's on Broadway
2/18 - 2/20

The Belgian Fest is an annual tradition, featuring 102 Belgian beers on tap, with 50 more rotating in over the course of the weekend. Max's will also offer more than 175 bottles of Belgian brews, and a Belgian-inspired food menu.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 18, 2011, 03:13:03 pm
i was reading that the price of barley has gone up 50% so to expect beer prices to go up...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 18, 2011, 03:40:10 pm
Mini-Micros: A World Tour of Small Breweries

    * Date May 17, 2011
    * Time 7 p.m.
    * Location National Geographic Building, Washington, D.C.
    * Price NG Member: $75; General Public: $85

Prost! Tip a glass with celebrated brewmaster and author Garrett Oliver as he returns this spring, this time with a lineup of ?small wonders??micro-breweries that produce under a thousand barrels a year. These breweries may not make very much beer, but pack plenty of passion, creativity, and flavor into every drop. Accompanied by a variety of tasty treats.

Co-sponsored by RFD Washington, and presented with assistance from BURP (Brewers United for Real Potables).

http://events.nationalgeographic.com/events/special-events/2011/05/17/mini-micros/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 18, 2011, 03:52:51 pm
$85 for that is highway robbery. And that's coming from a big Garrett Oliver (though not necessarily Brooklyn Brewery) fan.

Quote from: sweetcell on February 18, 2011, 03:40:10 pm
Mini-Micros: A World Tour of Small Breweries

    * Date May 17, 2011
    * Time 7 p.m.
    * Location National Geographic Building, Washington, D.C.
    * Price NG Member: $75; General Public: $85

Prost! Tip a glass with celebrated brewmaster and author Garrett Oliver as he returns this spring, this time with a lineup of ?small wonders??micro-breweries that produce under a thousand barrels a year. These breweries may not make very much beer, but pack plenty of passion, creativity, and flavor into every drop. Accompanied by a variety of tasty treats.

Co-sponsored by RFD Washington, and presented with assistance from BURP (Brewers United for Real Potables).

http://events.nationalgeographic.com/events/special-events/2011/05/17/mini-micros/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 18, 2011, 04:19:54 pm
everythin' in dc has become so pricey.. how much was it in the 90s to do the beer tastings with michael jackson at brickskeller.. $35?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 18, 2011, 05:11:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 18, 2011, 03:52:51 pm
$85 for that is highway robbery.

it's damn expensive, but is it any worse that that "Savor" festival thingy where you can't drink for less than like $140 or $150?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 19, 2011, 06:22:29 pm
The Belgian Beer Festival at Max's is really fun.  Lots of great beers.  If you've never gone, I would highly recommend it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2011, 02:52:11 pm
James Ford: today the gods have smiled upon you.  they have combined your two favorite things in the world: beer, and british royals.

Drink to Kate Middleton with a new beer
http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/02/18/kate.middleton.beer.ppl/index.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 21, 2011, 03:37:53 pm
For a limited time only, at Trader Joe's for $7.99. Nice price considering a Unibroue four pack normally goes for $9.99 or $10.99. One of the two best breweries in Canada, imo (along with Dieu de Ciel).

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51f6GgCHMyL._SS280_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2011, 04:30:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 21, 2011, 03:37:53 pm
For a limited time only, at Trader Joe's for $7.99. Nice price considering a Unibroue four pack normally goes for $9.99 or $10.99. One of the two best breweries in Canada, imo (along with Dieu de Ciel).

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51f6GgCHMyL._SS280_.jpg)

woa.  looks like imma be migratin' to VA in the coming days to stock up on beer (and wine while i'm at it). thanks for the heads-up.  for folks who have never tried unibroue, this is a great intro pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 23, 2011, 03:53:33 pm
Wow.  I love the Ephemere for a first beer on a nice spring day :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 23, 2011, 04:05:20 pm
Funny, that's the one beer of there's that I've had that I don't care fo. Tasted too much like cider (which I don't care for) to me. Ephemere is not in this particular taster pack.

Quote from: K8teebug on February 23, 2011, 03:53:33 pm
Wow.  I love the Ephemere for a first beer on a nice spring day :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on February 23, 2011, 05:48:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 23, 2011, 04:05:20 pm
Funny, that's the one beer of there's that I've had that I don't care fo. Tasted too much like cider (which I don't care for) to me. Ephemere is not in this particular taster pack.

Quote from: K8teebug on February 23, 2011, 03:53:33 pm
Wow.  I love the Ephemere for a first beer on a nice spring day :)

you run marathons . . . and drink a lot of beer.  interesting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 24, 2011, 08:51:38 am
I have had lots of beer.  Currently not drinking tons of it :)

But, I do enjoy 3 or 4 on the weekend!

Totally understand your thoughts on Ephemere.  I find it refreshing as a starter beer.  I thought the apple taste was pretty subtle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 24, 2011, 01:08:07 pm
What is "a lot"?

My wife and I usually split one 12 oz beer with dinner, and occasionally a second 12 oz beer for/with dessert.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on February 24, 2011, 01:22:27 pm
i just assumed that since you started this thread, and that mainly you post in it . . . i just assumed you were a drunk.  and drunk with nice legs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 25, 2011, 12:51:10 pm
I don't drink Mon-Thurs in general (unless I go out to a show or random HH) and try to limit weekends to 2-3 beers, if any.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 25, 2011, 01:47:16 pm
Has anyone seen Abita Strawberry Harvest on the shelves yet? Still have yet to come across any.

Had a big bottle of Weyerbacher Tiny last weekend... it knocked me on my ass to the point where I was hungover the next morning. It was good but a little too thick for my taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on February 25, 2011, 05:14:17 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/02/24/worlds-best-canned-beer/?test=faces
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 26, 2011, 11:13:02 am
I guess I'm a drunk by board standards.  When my doctor asks how much I drink my standard response is 10-14 a week.  Sounds like a lot but it really isn't.

I'm well above 10-14 this week, though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on February 26, 2011, 11:26:30 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 26, 2011, 11:13:02 am
I guess I'm a drunk by board standards.  When my doctor asks how much I drink my standard response is 10-14 a week.  Sounds like a lot but it really isn't.

I'm well above 10-14 this week, though.

That's per day for me  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 28, 2011, 09:14:18 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 25, 2011, 01:47:16 pm
Has anyone seen Abita Strawberry Harvest on the shelves yet? Still have yet to come across any.

Had a big bottle of Weyerbacher Tiny last weekend... it knocked me on my ass to the point where I was hungover the next morning. It was good but a little too thick for my taste.

I have not seen it, but the Sam Smiths strawberry is really really good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 28, 2011, 01:39:53 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 25, 2011, 01:47:16 pm
Has anyone seen Abita Strawberry Harvest on the shelves yet? Still have yet to come across any.

Had a big bottle of Weyerbacher Tiny last weekend... it knocked me on my ass to the point where I was hungover the next morning. It was good but a little too thick for my taste.
I'd bet TotalWine will have it soon. They usually have a good selection of Abita. They still had some of their seasonal Mardi Gras Bock last week.
Abita's use of spring water makes for some great session drinking in their brews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 28, 2011, 02:45:27 pm
TONIGHT: Come taste the last kegs of Bell's HopSlam for the season at ChurchKey! We start pouring at 4 pm!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 28, 2011, 10:47:11 pm
the big hunt also got another keg
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 01, 2011, 01:34:29 pm
splitting a 12 oz beer with the wife for dinner?

thats funny!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 01, 2011, 02:15:01 pm
If a serving of wine at 12% abv is five ounces, why shouldn't the serving size for a 10% beer be six ounces?

Quote from: hutch on March 01, 2011, 01:34:29 pm
splitting a 12 oz beer with the wife for dinner?

thats funny!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dave24 on March 07, 2011, 03:04:00 pm
So  -  did anyone try to get SAVOR tickets? 

I'm in need of a couple for either night, if anyone happens to have tickets in their plans change...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on March 07, 2011, 04:29:21 pm
Quote from: dave24 on March 07, 2011, 03:04:00 pm
So  -  did anyone try to get SAVOR tickets? 

I'm in need of a couple for either night, if anyone happens to have tickets in their plans change...

Tried and failed.  2 tickets sold on ebay for $634
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on March 08, 2011, 01:28:46 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on March 07, 2011, 04:29:21 pm
Quote from: dave24 on March 07, 2011, 03:04:00 pm
So  -  did anyone try to get SAVOR tickets? 

I'm in need of a couple for either night, if anyone happens to have tickets in their plans change...

Tried and failed.  2 tickets sold on ebay for $634
They would be wise to expand further next year. Either go to the convention center like GABF does in Denver or make it like a SXSW for beer and have multiple venues.
Bell tweeted the reason they won't be at SAVOR is they didn't win a lottery position. Apparently brewers submitted a request and names were then selected out of a hat. (At least that's Bell's slant, they may have balked at putting up cash to be a sponsor?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 09, 2011, 12:21:11 pm
The Post seems to have improved their selections for their annual Beer Madness brackets

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/artsandliving/foodanddining/features/2011/beer-madness/?sid=ST2011030804430
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on March 09, 2011, 01:28:10 pm
so i broke down and drank the rarest beer in the world that has been sitting in my basement for three years.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198730_1749814878345_1628062159_1728802_3183702_n.jpg)

good god . . . it was horrible.  tasted like an old boot from an ogre who had used the thing to wipe his armpit with before serving you this beer inside it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dave24 on March 09, 2011, 03:00:11 pm
Quote from: slappy on March 08, 2011, 01:28:46 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on March 07, 2011, 04:29:21 pm
Quote from: dave24 on March 07, 2011, 03:04:00 pm
So  -  did anyone try to get SAVOR tickets? 

I'm in need of a couple for either night, if anyone happens to have tickets in their plans change...

Tried and failed.  2 tickets sold on ebay for $634
They would be wise to expand further next year. Either go to the convention center like GABF does in Denver or make it like a SXSW for beer and have multiple venues.
Bell tweeted the reason they won't be at SAVOR is they didn't win a lottery position. Apparently brewers submitted a request and names were then selected out of a hat. (At least that's Bell's slant, they may have balked at putting up cash to be a sponsor?)


Yes - unless a brewery is a major contributor, they have to be part of the lottery system.  Stone isn't even there this year.  But - it brings new breweries each year and beers that aren't distributed around here... I don't dislike the system.  Plus - there are so many events around town leading up to Savor - you can find some nice stuff to partake in even if you don't go to the main event...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dave24 on March 09, 2011, 03:01:18 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 09, 2011, 01:28:10 pm
so i broke down and drank the rarest beer in the world that has been sitting in my basement for three years.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198730_1749814878345_1628062159_1728802_3183702_n.jpg)

good god . . . it was horrible.  tasted like an old boot from an ogre who had used the thing to wipe his armpit with before serving you this beer inside it.

Some beers are NOT meant to be cellared - not sure what 3 years aging did to this one... I can't speak for it though as I've never tried it...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 09, 2011, 03:14:46 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 09, 2011, 01:28:10 pm
so i broke down and drank the rarest beer in the world that has been sitting in my basement for three years.

at 1:00 pm on a wednesday?  a little early, innit?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 09, 2011, 03:54:54 pm
Yeah, think you held onto it a little too long. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 12, 2011, 07:38:03 pm
On draft for lunch, my wife and I split:

16 oz Troeggs Nugget Nectar
16 oz Ballast Point Sculpin IPA
12 oz Whiskey Barrel Aged Flying Dog Imperial Gonzo

all for $4 each.

and a grilled gouda and apple sandwich with chips and grapes for $8.

yum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on March 13, 2011, 10:08:21 am
i have fallen in love with a new beer . . . one that i normally would have stayed away from.  one that, due to the description, i would never dream of ordering or curling my nose at such a concoction.  then i had a excellent beer from belgium first, so who cared about the second after feeling pretty fine.  the name was founders, the beer was backwoods bastard.  dear lord, i'm head over heels.

(http://jacobpaul81.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/founders-back-bast.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 14, 2011, 11:54:14 am
Great beer! i have a single from 2009 and a four pack from 2010 sitting in my basement.


Quote from: walkonby on March 13, 2011, 10:08:21 am
i have fallen in love with a new beer . . . one that i normally would have stayed away from.  one that, due to the description, i would never dream of ordering or curling my nose at such a concoction.  then i had a excellent beer from belgium first, so who cared about the second after feeling pretty fine.  the name was founders, the beer was backwoods bastard.  dear lord, i'm head over heels.

(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDoS7Cz3xNhn8ApbajzbkF/SIG=13gra36u5/EXP=1300054082/**http%3a//2.bp.blogspot.com/_pueiwe0gUJk/Sy82xhlaJNI/AAAAAAAAAGY/6yekESwhypc/s400/BACKWOODS.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on March 15, 2011, 02:38:34 pm
The beer is okay but the commercial is pretty cool:

Sapporo (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=K-Rs6YEZAt8)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 15, 2011, 03:15:57 pm
churchkeydc
.TONIGHT: Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout! Tapping This Killer Keg at 4PM! A tiny quantity beer we're all super excited about...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 15, 2011, 04:46:19 pm
that sapporo commercial is very well done.

and damn you, churchkey, for not opening closer to my neck of the woods.  then again, i'd probably drop $30 a night there if i lived anywhere nearby.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 15, 2011, 04:52:17 pm
I saw at ChurchKey last night and asked about KBS and the bartender said:

"You know what?  Our beer director likes to hold on to new things for a while, before rolling them out. If I had to guess?  It'll probably be a month or so before we tap that.""

How's that for a whopper of a lie? Probably a former Bush administration employee.


i'm not going tonight, but my wife did pick up a four pack earlier today. $20. Ouch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on March 15, 2011, 05:36:03 pm
i find it strange that my picture of founder's backwoods bastard from google won't show.  so i replaced it with another . . . and now it won't show either.  the beer is speaking to me through the forum. 


but then now the replacement does show after i posted this.  the beer is that good.
Title: Verizon Center
Post by: tobyd on March 15, 2011, 07:05:40 pm
Headed to the Tournament this week.  Anyone know what the beer options are like these days?  THANKS!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 16, 2011, 08:41:41 am
Do any of you ever venture up to my neck of the woods for Victoria Gastropub?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 16, 2011, 09:34:56 am
Quote from: tobyd on March 15, 2011, 07:05:40 pm
Headed to the Tournament this week.  Anyone know what the beer options are like these days?  THANKS!

the NCAA tournament?  if so, which regional?  or is "the tournament" a bar i'm unaware of? 

and i pray that you don't mean medival times ;)
Title: Re: Verizon Center
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 16, 2011, 09:54:17 am
Quote from: tobyd on March 15, 2011, 07:05:40 pm
Headed to the Tournament this week.  Anyone know what the beer options are like these days?  THANKS!

If you mean that you're going to the Phone Booth for the games, you're out of out luck. No alcohol is served at NCAA Tourney events. :dagger
Title: Re: Verizon Center
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 16, 2011, 10:11:28 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 16, 2011, 09:54:17 am
Quote from: tobyd on March 15, 2011, 07:05:40 pm
Headed to the Tournament this week.  Anyone know what the beer options are like these days?  THANKS!

If you mean that you're going to the Phone Booth for the games, you're out of out luck. No alcohol is served at NCAA Tourney events. :dagger

that's odd, i get good and sauced at most georgetown games at verizon
Title: Re: Verizon Center
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 16, 2011, 11:32:31 am
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on March 16, 2011, 10:11:28 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 16, 2011, 09:54:17 am
Quote from: tobyd on March 15, 2011, 07:05:40 pm
Headed to the Tournament this week.  Anyone know what the beer options are like these days?  THANKS!

If you mean that you're going to the Phone Booth for the games, you're out of out luck. No alcohol is served at NCAA Tourney events. :dagger

that's odd, i get good and sauced at most georgetown games at verizon

It's an old NCAA rule that bans alcohol at any site for championship events. They also have to hide any signs/ads that advertise alcohol.

No beer + Aramark concessions = horror.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tobyd on March 16, 2011, 11:56:27 am
Yeah, I mean the tournament here in DC.  That's bad news indeed.  Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Verizon Center
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 16, 2011, 11:58:17 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 16, 2011, 11:32:31 am
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on March 16, 2011, 10:11:28 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 16, 2011, 09:54:17 am
Quote from: tobyd on March 15, 2011, 07:05:40 pm
Headed to the Tournament this week.  Anyone know what the beer options are like these days?  THANKS!

If you mean that you're going to the Phone Booth for the games, you're out of out luck. No alcohol is served at NCAA Tourney events. :dagger

that's odd, i get good and sauced at most georgetown games at verizon

It's an old NCAA rule that bans alcohol at any site for championship events. They also have to hide any signs/ads that advertise alcohol.

No beer + Aramark concessions = horror.

the only good food in the arena is the BBQ place on the first level, great sweet potato fries
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 16, 2011, 12:35:27 pm
the vc food is awful. we usually go to matchbox or one of the jose andres places first
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on March 16, 2011, 04:46:49 pm
Apparently they have Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout on draft at Rustico at VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on March 18, 2011, 01:32:52 pm
Quote from: nkotb on March 16, 2011, 04:46:49 pm
Apparently they have Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout on draft at Rustico at VA.

There are two Rustico's in VA, Arl. and North Old Town.
I didn't notice it at Alex. the other day. But I really didn't get past Nugget Nectar and Thornbridge on cask.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on March 18, 2011, 01:52:26 pm
Ha...I only realized that over the weekend.  I used to frequent the Old Town location; came as quite a surprise when I saw a second location.

Quote from: slappy on March 18, 2011, 01:32:52 pm
Quote from: nkotb on March 16, 2011, 04:46:49 pm
Apparently they have Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout on draft at Rustico at VA.

There are two Rustico's in VA, Arl. and North Old Town.
I didn't notice it at Alex. the other day. But I really didn't get past Nugget Nectar and Thornbridge on cask.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 18, 2011, 04:57:54 pm
$20 is a decent price for KBS - its 22.99 at Rodmans and even higher at other places

Quote from: James Ford on March 15, 2011, 04:52:17 pm
I saw at ChurchKey last night and asked about KBS and the bartender said:

"You know what?  Our beer director likes to hold on to new things for a while, before rolling them out. If I had to guess?  It'll probably be a month or so before we tap that.""

How's that for a whopper of a lie? Probably a former Bush administration employee.


i'm not going tonight, but my wife did pick up a four pack earlier today. $20. Ouch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 21, 2011, 08:05:23 am
They have nugget nectar and abita strawberry harvest at Corridor in Laurel, if anyone is looking for those.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 21, 2011, 12:08:26 pm
I can't find KBS anywhere. Rodman's and Chevy Chase were sold out. Found out they were serving bottles at The Black Squirrel only to find out they ran out before I got there.

Blergh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 21, 2011, 01:08:40 pm
Try getting on a list somewhere in advance next year.

I got on the list at a couple of places in advance, and they kindly called me when they got some in. I actually had to turn them both down since my wife had already grabbed two 4 packs, and how much fo the stuff do you really need...


Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 21, 2011, 12:08:26 pm
I can't find KBS anywhere. Rodman's and Chevy Chase were sold out. Found out they were serving bottles at The Black Squirrel only to find out they ran out before I got there.

Blergh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on March 22, 2011, 12:52:35 am

Or move to Minnesota...
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Liberty-Village-Wines-and-Spirits/81464421545 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Liberty-Village-Wines-and-Spirits/81464421545)

Quote from: James Ford on March 21, 2011, 01:08:40 pm
Try getting on a list somewhere in advance next year.

I got on the list at a couple of places in advance, and they kindly called me when they got some in. I actually had to turn them both down since my wife had already grabbed two 4 packs, and how much fo the stuff do you really need...


Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 21, 2011, 12:08:26 pm
I can't find KBS anywhere. Rodman's and Chevy Chase were sold out. Found out they were serving bottles at The Black Squirrel only to find out they ran out before I got there.

Blergh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 28, 2011, 03:28:05 pm
Another one bites the dust


http://chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2011/03/anheuser-busch-inbev-to-take-over-goose-island.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2011, 05:27:55 pm
not that this will make much difference for us MD residents...

Whole Foods tests bars selling craft beer and local wine in its stores
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2011-03-25-whole-foods-bar.htm

(http://i.usatoday.net/money/gallery/2011/m110328-wholefoods/5pg-vertical.jpg)

still not sure why this is news, tho, since there are already stores that do this.  i believe there's one in fairfax, no?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on March 28, 2011, 07:50:15 pm
so i went to my local "beershop" . . . which is a "country store" that (some random cuss word) rules.  there i found their last 12 six packs of this beer i kept hearing about, nugget nectar.  sure, why not, i'll try it.  took two.  first one i drank from the bottle.  thought it was horrible.  waste of money.  second one the next day, poured it into a proper beer drinking glass and it was nice.  after four more, they were delightful.

but what i really want to know, is that they had some founders selections, which i know nothing about besides i worship (by accidental trying) "backwoods bastard."  which others from founders should i try that will sway me over?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 28, 2011, 08:20:28 pm
Founders is my favorite all around brewery. There's really nothing they are weak on, imo.

They're especially known for their seasonal stouts: Breakfast Stout, KBS, Founders Imperial Stout, and Canadian Breakfast Stout. Good luck at finnding any of those right now though. Their porter is easy to find, and it's my favorite porter.

Centenial (IPA), Red Rye PA, and Dirty Bastard (a milder version of Backwoods Bastard, sort of) are all excellent too and available year round.

You can also catch the excellent seasonal Double Trouble (DIPA) now.



Quote from: walkonby on March 28, 2011, 07:50:15 pm
so i went to my local "beershop" . . . which is a "country store" that (some random cuss word) rules.  there i found their last 12 six packs of this beer i kept hearing about, nugget nectar.  sure, why not, i'll try it.  took two.  first one i drank from the bottle.  thought it was horrible.  waste of money.  second one the next day, poured it into a proper beer drinking glass and it was nice.  after four more, they were delightful.

but what i really want to know, is that they had some founders selections, which i know nothing about besides i worship (by accidental trying) "backwoods bastard."  which others from founders should i try that will sway me over?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on March 31, 2011, 10:33:32 pm
Glad to see the The Beer Thread is still going strong.

Has anyone tried Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. This was draft; can't vouch for the bottles.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3818/43687
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 31, 2011, 10:37:06 pm
I haven't had it, but my wife has, and she said it's the bomb.

Quote from: Darth Ed on March 31, 2011, 10:33:32 pm
Glad to see the The Beer Thread is still going strong.

Has anyone tried Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. This was draft; can't vouch for the bottles.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3818/43687
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 01, 2011, 08:31:34 am
I've had it and think it is incredibly too sweet.  But, I know alot of people who love it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on April 01, 2011, 05:36:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2011, 05:27:55 pm
not that this will make much difference for us MD residents...

Whole Foods tests bars selling craft beer and local wine in its stores

still not sure why this is news, tho, since there are already stores that do this.  i believe there's one in fairfax, no?

Yeah, the Fairfax store has numerous taps throughout the store and an upstairs wine bar. They also sell growlers.

The Fairfax Wegman's is joining the fray by adding a bar in their 'wine cellar'. Unfortunately they were installing Dogfish Head taps today. Kinda silly with the amount of Tröegs they're stocking and the fact there's a Dogfish brewpub a few miles away.

Firestone Walker is having a 'DC Launch' next week with stuff at Churchkey and Black Squirrel. Seems a little late since the Paradiso spots have had kegs for a few months. Hopefully Double Jack casks are involved.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on April 08, 2011, 12:27:18 pm
I will be hitting up Great Divide tonight for the release of their Chocolate Oak-Aged Yeti, Colette Farmhouse Ale and 17th Anniversary Wood Aged Double IPA.  Oh yes:  http://gdbeerreleaseparty.eventbrite.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2011, 12:46:31 pm
wish the sterling wegman's would do that. grocery shopping would be way more fun
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 08, 2011, 01:00:56 pm
Embarrasingly, I jogged right by the Great Divide Tap Room the last time I was in Denver and didn't even know enough about it to know it was a place I should go to.

I did go to an excellent Belgian beer bar called the Cheeky Monk while I was there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on April 08, 2011, 04:18:22 pm
Though expensive, Cheeky Monk always has a great selection.  In fact, I will be there next Wednesday for their Colorado Beer Week event:  Rogue and oysters (and no, not the Rocky Mountain kind).  http://notyourdadsbeer.com/2011/03/31/colorado-beer-week-day/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 08, 2011, 06:10:40 pm
i was in a celebratory mood yesterday and went on a beer shopping binge.  drank last night:

- http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/red-white.htm
strange brew.  the spice, grape and wood tastes really take over, to the point where one might forget that this is beer.  interesting but not sure i'd buy it again.  spendy too - $12 for a big bottle.

- http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/gouden-carolus-cuvee-van-de-keizer-rood-red/86944/
another weird spicy number.  i'm a fan of belgian beer, especially witbier, so i had high hopes for this one.  it was damn tasty but the pungent herb-y smell was a bit much by the end of the bottle.  very thick mouthfeel (just learned that word).  i'll be keeping my eye out for the darker "blue" version.

currently sitting in the basement:

- http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/8-Oberon%20Ale
i'm not very familiar with bell's, but i do love me some wheat beer and based on popular opinion of this brewery i figured i couldn't go wrong here.  anyone tried this?  i was going to try one tonight but the crap weather is putting me in a dark beer mood. 

- http://www.olddominion.com/brews/ --> millenium ale, 3rd from the bottom 
the store mentioned that this beer contained a touch of honey.  online reviews claim that this beer ages well, so it might sit in the cellar for a while.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 09, 2011, 05:23:55 pm
Bell's Oberon is good, but for that category (American pale wheat ale), Lagunitas Little Sumpin Sumpin is my favorite.

You gotta try Cuvee van de Kaiser Blau. That's one of my favorite Belgians.

I'm going to try Firestone Walker Double Jack on draft tomorrow for the first time!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: miss pretentious on April 09, 2011, 05:39:03 pm
Quote from: Darth Ed on March 31, 2011, 10:33:32 pm
Glad to see the The Beer Thread is still going strong.

Has anyone tried Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. This was draft; can't vouch for the bottles.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3818/43687

Southern Tier is so good, I haven't had this one though. They make my favorite pumpkin beer: Pumking which I just recently drank the last of, as they are worth hoarding.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 12, 2011, 08:48:58 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2011, 05:23:55 pm
You gotta try Cuvee van de Kaiser Blau. That's one of my favorite Belgians.

done - tried it last night.  i liked the caramel after-taste.  it's tastier than the rood (red) but it still had a strange bitterness on the tip of the tongue to it that was, well, strange.  i'd buy it again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 15, 2011, 02:09:33 pm
The Top 8 Beers for Stoners (http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/2011/04/the_top_8_beers_for_stoners.php)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on April 15, 2011, 05:33:16 pm
i shop at food lion.  so there.  i like how they have basic good beers (magic hat, redhook, sam adams, etc...) "on sale" for $9 a six pack.  since when is $9 for sam adams a fucking "sale"?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2011, 06:05:08 pm
recently i've been working near a wegmans in VA so i've been stocking up on beer there.  i paid $9 for a sixer of bell's oberon.  currently sipping my first one as i type this - tasty & absolutely worth the price, i'll be buying this again.

charging more than $7 for a six of sam in a grocery is stupid.  paying that is obviously worse.

incoming: derisive comments about you qualifying magic hat, redhook and sam adams as "good beers".  or at a minumum i've just headed them off at the pass ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2011, 06:32:28 pm
beer prices have gone up...stella, sierra are now 8.99 for six.. i wouldn't expect to see sam adams for 6.99 unless on sale..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on April 15, 2011, 06:54:24 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 15, 2011, 06:05:08 pm
recently i've been working near a wegmans in VA so i've been stocking up on beer there.  i paid $9 for a sixer of bell's oberon.  currently sipping my first one as i type this - tasty & absolutely worth the price, i'll be buying this again.

charging more than $7 for a six of sam in a grocery is stupid.  paying that is obviously worse.

incoming: derisive comments about you qualifying magic hat, redhook and sam adams as "good beers".  or at a minumum i've just headed them off at the pass ;D

you see, foodlion in the country works like this.  sam adams, redhook, stella, st.pauli's, etc... are considered "good beer" . . . because they have this teeny tiny section dedicated to them, while the rest of the selection (a good football field long) is for bud, coors, natty light, and other beer flavoured piss in a can/bottle.  if there was a wegman's near me, i would be poor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 15, 2011, 07:23:00 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 15, 2011, 06:32:28 pm
beer prices have gone up..

In Tax Hell Maryland, it's going to get much worse in July. The bastards approved a 50% alcohol tax increase! So, all you Marylanders may want to do some stocking up on your liquor cabinets now before it hits later on.

Maryland also sucks (most of  it) because they won't let grocery stores sell alcohol. Bunch of bastards! The only place I know of in Maryland where they seem to allow it is on the far Eastern Shore and even that's up for grabs. Worcester County just abolished their Liquor Control Board and no one knows how that will work out. Right now, the one tiny (and over priced) grocery store that sells alcohol is closing down. There's always the gas station up the street that sells a limited number of beers and such. Or that drive through liquor store in Berlin. It looks like a car wash without the soaps and suds. Well, I guess it does have 'suds' but of a different variety. Go figure! I like the liquor store with the somewhat upscale restaurant right in the middle of the store. Great cheese platters and a nice menu.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on April 15, 2011, 07:33:35 pm
my goodness Jagy, sounds like you live in the boonies part of MD  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 15, 2011, 07:47:23 pm
I call it Mayberry by the Sea.

As in Walkie's world, it has both its pros and cons.

But don't be mistaken. There's plenty of alcohol to go around. The issue is where to get it. It's everything else that's sometimes difficult to obtain. No Wegman's, no Trader Joe's...  :'( :'(  That's why I do my stocking up from those stores while on the Western side of the shore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 15, 2011, 09:53:05 pm
Sierra still $6.99 at my Total Wine and Whole Foods. $5.99 if you have a coupon at Total Wine.

Quote from: hutch on April 15, 2011, 06:32:28 pm
beer prices have gone up...stella, sierra are now 8.99 for six.. i wouldn't expect to see sam adams for 6.99 unless on sale..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: redsock on April 17, 2011, 09:45:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 08, 2011, 06:10:40 pm
i was in a celebratory mood yesterday and went on a beer shopping binge.  drank last night:

- http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/red-white.htm
strange brew.  the spice, grape and wood tastes really take over, to the point where one might forget that this is beer.  interesting but not sure i'd buy it again.  spendy too - $12 for a big bottle.

- http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/gouden-carolus-cuvee-van-de-keizer-rood-red/86944/
another weird spicy number.  i'm a fan of belgian beer, especially witbier, so i had high hopes for this one.  it was damn tasty but the pungent herb-y smell was a bit much by the end of the bottle.  very thick mouthfeel (just learned that word).  i'll be keeping my eye out for the darker "blue" version.

currently sitting in the basement:

- http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/8-Oberon%20Ale
i'm not very familiar with bell's, but i do love me some wheat beer and based on popular opinion of this brewery i figured i couldn't go wrong here.  anyone tried this?  i was going to try one tonight but the crap weather is putting me in a dark beer mood. 

- http://www.olddominion.com/brews/ --> millenium ale, 3rd from the bottom 
the store mentioned that this beer contained a touch of honey.  online reviews claim that this beer ages well, so it might sit in the cellar for a while.

The Red and White isn't bad, my fiancee really likes it. Have a bottle chilling the fridge as we speak.

Oberon is one of my favorite, fairly easy to find, summer beers. The herald of good weather in my mind.

I just got a cheap ($8.99) six pack of Millennium Ale from Wegmans. Looking forward to trying it, but not sure how long I can hang on it to. Cool dark places are hard to come by in the city. Let me know if you try one out. I'm not a strong lover of Barlywines, but the idea of adding honey to the mix sounded good. And it generally gets fantastic reviews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on April 18, 2011, 10:09:23 pm
i am heading to the beach.  i am heading to the "semi scary" suburbs of northern va to find good beer.  do i go to wegmans, which would be gainesville for me, or the total beverage near the fair oaks mall.  which is a better choice for six pack and single selection, as well as best price, because i will choose one only to hit.  thank you for your help.  or do those stores have websites to see selections?  i never thought of that.  darn it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: redsock on April 18, 2011, 11:25:10 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 18, 2011, 10:09:23 pm
i am heading to the beach.  i am heading to the "semi scary" suburbs of northern va to find good beer.  do i go to wegmans, which would be gainesville for me, or the total beverage near the fair oaks mall.  which is a better choice for six pack and single selection, as well as best price, because i will choose one only to hit.  thank you for your help.  or do those stores have websites to see selections?  i never thought of that.  darn it.

While the Wegman's prices are prolly better, I'm thinking you will get a much better selection at Total Beverage.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 19, 2011, 12:16:42 pm
Was in upstate New York this weekend and went to the beer store near my parent's house. Not only did they just receive a shipment of Goose Island Big John, but they also had a bottle of Bourbon County Vanilla Stout.

In fact, they also had Rare Bourbon County Stout, but I couldn't justify spending $45 on one 22oz bottle. I just couldn't do it.

Tried the Big John this evening. Wasn't a huge fan after a few sips, but after letting it breathe a bit it definitely tasted better. Very strong (11.5%) and bitter. Not the biggest fan but might buy another bottle and let it age a year or so. Going to save the Vanilla Stout for another day. Cannot wait to try it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on April 19, 2011, 03:40:19 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 18, 2011, 10:09:23 pm
i am heading to the beach.  i am heading to the "semi scary" suburbs of northern va to find good beer.  do i go to wegmans, which would be gainesville for me, or the total beverage near the fair oaks mall.  which is a better choice for six pack and single selection, as well as best price, because i will choose one only to hit.  thank you for your help.  or do those stores have websites to see selections?  i never thought of that.  darn it.
If you mean the Total Wine in Chantilly as 'near the fair oaks mall'. There is also a monster Whole Foods in Fair Lakes with a decent selection and the Wegman's in the Government Center/Fairfax Corner area. The Total Wine in Chantilly also has a Dogfish Head in the same shopping center for draught libations while in the area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 30, 2011, 11:49:43 am
Delmarva pairs with craft beer: Salisbury Festival features growing brewery industry (http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/20110430/NEWS01/104300370/1002/rss)

Was out with a friend of mine this past weekend. We stopped in this bar that I really like to visit occasionally that had Evo on tap on their Specials list for $2.50 a pint. He got it and said it was okay but had a heavy hops taste with a strong bite. Sounded absolutely disgusting to me so I wouldn't even taste it. Mind you, I'm not much of a beer drinker and can't at all stomach one strong on the hops.

Here's Evo's website (http://www.evolutioncraftbrewing.com/home.htm). Don't know which one it was but I assume whichever is considered the standard or probably the cheapest one for the bar to carry.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 05, 2011, 09:31:08 am
If you're looking for a good beer to serve with your cinco de mayo meal, here's one. Very interesting taste. It's been on tap at Fair Lakes Whole Foods for awhile, and they have bombers. Not sure where else it's available.



(http://www.guysdrinkingbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/moleocho-300x224.jpg)

New Holland El Mole Ocho 22oz
8% ABV
"Our exploration into the flavors of mole, the legendary sauce of central Mexico. Malty aroma and rich,cocoa-laden body laced with an invigorating tinge of dried chilies and coffee.Pairings: poultry, red meat, dark chocolate." -- New Holland

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 09, 2011, 06:15:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2011, 05:23:55 pm
Bell's Oberon is good, but for that category (American pale wheat ale), Lagunitas Little Sumpin Sumpin is my favorite.

ford, you done me wrong.

i tried the Lagunitas Little Sumpin Sumpin ale this weekend.  ewww.  ya hear me?  EWWW.  ok, fine, it wasn't horrible, but definitely not my type of wheat ale.  is it even a wheat?  hard to tell over those 64  IBU!  wheats should be smooth, not bitter, IMO.  then again i'm generally not a fan of very hoppy/bitter beer so this shouldn't have been a surprise to me.  should have read the label.  seriously, is it a wheat?

also tried port city's optimal wit.  pretty good, an above-average offering in the wheat dept, but oberon is still the newbie that's doing it for me at the moment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on May 09, 2011, 06:56:25 pm
i went to the beach in nc.

everybody down there was obsessed with fat tire.  it was everywhere.  everywhere, i say.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2011, 07:02:30 pm
We (http://www.beerconspiracy.com/) believe that the Beer (and other Liquor) companies are a crucial part of the New World Order Conspiracy...

They are systematically keeping the Free World drunk, or at least buzzed enough so that we won't pay attention to or worry about their other diabolical plans.

Everywhere you look, even on TV there are ads for beer and other alcoholic drinks. Everywhere. You probably even have some beer advertising in your home. A PBR t-shirt, or a Budweiser key chain. Maybe a collection of beer steins on the mantle. You have become a part of the conspiracy that allows these huge multinational conglomerates to keep selling the only legal addictive drug in the free world (other than nicotine, but that's a different conspiracy and someone else will have to build that website).

Alcohol kills more people each year than war! (We are Not suggesting that anyone should give up either.)

Don't get us wrong, we aren't suggesting that alcohol be banned. Prohibition didn't work in the past and it wont work any better today. We like a nice cold beer as much as the next person, but we'd rather drink our own home brew, untouched by greedy corporate hands! (Except, of course, for when we are out of home brew, which we usually are... because we don't actually brew any ourselves, though, we know people who do, or so they have told us.)

We present here articles of interest on that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there's something fishy in the International Beer Industrial Complex, headquartered in Bavaria, or maybe Belgium. 
Read them for yourself and you decide if you are going to continue playing right into their hands when you're crying into your beer, or if it's time to take back your beer and do something! (Please don't do anything stupid and blame it on us.  We have enough troubles of our own without any help from you, thanks.)

(funny but NSFW photo 3/4 of the way down that link)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on May 09, 2011, 07:04:20 pm
beer . . . is an inside job.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 09, 2011, 08:15:54 pm
Someday you'll grow into a real man and enjoy hoppy beer.  ;D

Until then you're on Jag's non-hoppy beer drinking team.

I'm only going by Beer advocate's definition. LSS ids definitely a hoppy wheat/aple ale hydrid.

Port City's wheat is decent, though a little too yeasty. Their tour and tasting room are fun. Their porter is definitely their best beer,



Quote from: sweetcell on May 09, 2011, 06:15:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2011, 05:23:55 pm
Bell's Oberon is good, but for that category (American pale wheat ale), Lagunitas Little Sumpin Sumpin is my favorite.

ford, you done me wrong.

i tried the Lagunitas Little Sumpin Sumpin ale this weekend.  ewww.  ya hear me?  EWWW.  ok, fine, it wasn't horrible, but definitely not my type of wheat ale.  is it even a wheat?  hard to tell over those 64  IBU!  wheats should be smooth, not bitter, IMO.  then again i'm generally not a fan of very hoppy/bitter beer so this shouldn't have been a surprise to me.  should have read the label.  seriously, is it a wheat?

also tried port city's optimal wit.  pretty good, an above-average offering in the wheat dept, but oberon is still the newbie that's doing it for me at the moment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 10, 2011, 12:45:41 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2011, 08:15:54 pm
Someday you'll grow into a real man and enjoy hoppy beer.  ;D

doubtful - i don't like bitter/sour tastes for the most part so i wouldn't hold my breath.

i was talking about this the other day with a workmate - for some, you're not a "real beer drinker" unless you like your beer super-hoppy.  it's right up there with "you're not a real wine drinker if you drink anything other than pinot noir" or "anything more than tomato sauce and cheese and the pizza is ruined".  rubbish.  liking bitter beer proves one thing, and one thing only: you like bitter beer.

Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2011, 08:15:54 pm
Until then you're on Jag's non-hoppy beer drinking team.

at least we agree on something ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on May 10, 2011, 01:29:39 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 10, 2011, 12:45:41 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2011, 08:15:54 pm
Until then you're on Jag's non-hoppy beer drinking team.

at least we agree on something ;D

Cheers!

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 10, 2011, 08:37:08 am
So we were at Whole Foods in Fairfax the other day (the best bar in the DC area), and were in the enviable position of having to choose from all of these hoppy imperials, all above 9% abv, at $4/12 oz draft.



(http://www.douglasderda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hdh21_maharaja.jpg)
(http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/founders-double-trouble.jpg)
(http://www.simplybeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Firestone-Walker-Double-Jack-Label.jpg)
(http://www.clownshoesbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Hoppy2_Label_Final_450x311.jpg)



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 10, 2011, 08:51:12 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 10, 2011, 08:37:08 am
So we were at Whole Foods in Fairfax the other day (the best bar in the DC area), and were in the enviable position of having to choose from all of these hoppy imperials, all above 9% abv, at $4/12 oz draft.

you tease.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 10, 2011, 10:36:39 am
Speaking of hops, has anyone tried the Orange Whip at Mad Fox Brewing?.... a delicious IPA.  Wont be around too long.  Get it while you can.

Anyone have any experience with milk stouts? Sounds like it's similar to a guiness, a little sweeter with a hint of chocolate and/or coffee. I hear Left Hand makes a good one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2011, 11:07:18 pm
econo-beer recommendation: Mission St., available only at Trader Joe's as far as i know.

the 2011 Anniversary Ale (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/562/67292) is recommended considering the price.  described as an "imperial brown ale", it's got great caramel and nutty overtones.  i'm betting this one will age nicely.  i'll be grabbing a case this weekend and promptly forgetting it in the basement.

the hefeweizen (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/562/59119) is pretty solid too.  neither of these two beers is going to become your all-time fav, but they're definitely above average (at a below-average prices).

they also make a blond, a brown, a pale ale and an IPA but i haven't tried them.  might pick up some along with the case of anniversary just to try them out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 12, 2011, 08:02:22 am
Mission Street beers are brewed by Firestone Walker in California, mentioned in my post above. Some of Trader Joes other beers are brewed by Goose Island (Chicago), and their Vintage Ale is brewed by Unibroue (Quebec).

I've had the Mission Street IPA. Not amazing, but definitely solid/good.

Quote from: sweetcell on May 11, 2011, 11:07:18 pm
econo-beer recommendation: Mission St., available only at Trader Joe's as far as i know.

the 2011 Anniversary Ale (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/562/67292) is recommended considering the price.  described as an "imperial brown ale", it's got great caramel and nutty overtones.  i'm betting this one will age nicely.  i'll be grabbing a case this weekend and promptly forgetting it in the basement.

the hefeweizen (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/562/59119) is pretty solid too.  neither of these two beers is going to become your all-time fav, but they're definitely above average (at a below-average prices).

they also make a blond, a brown, a pale ale and an IPA but i haven't tried them.  might pick up some along with the case of anniversary just to try them out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on May 17, 2011, 05:23:37 pm
so i made the mistake of trying a beer by "just grab one" after staring a six packs that my local supermarket calls an "attempt."  The brewery was starr hill in c-ville and i usually have liked what they put out.  but this one, this

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y11e7o5EETg/TFW3NZ22NlI/AAAAAAAAAuk/4VGmIkZ4QNI/s320/lucy.jpg)

was horrible and tasted like if gingerale was beer.  i fart in it's general direction.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on May 17, 2011, 11:50:18 pm
Space Beer (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110517/lf_nm_life/us_australia_beer_space)

Interesting article even though it's a bit over-simplified. Hits the basic details which is all that's really needed for their purposes.

Personally, I don't see it working or being worth the trouble unless they create a gravity bar that sustains itself with its own gravitational force field. Now that could be cool once they get all the other space travel details in place.

Once that's set up, Seth, you might be able to get your new best buddy Richard to let you book the club scene. I can see it now!
The 9:30 Club: A Space Odyssey
- A new concept in Space Music.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 18, 2011, 02:03:21 pm
since i've been having trouble locating a reliable supply of Russian River Brewing Co.'s "Pliny the Elder" I've found a suitable substitute- Ninkasi Brewery's "Tricerahops."  it's also a double IPA, and it compares well, in my opinion, to Pliny the Elder.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 18, 2011, 02:23:42 pm
My brother found a Pliny the Elder in Seattle and sent it to me for my birthday. It will be my first. I really need to drink it soon.

I've had Tricerahops. Very, very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 18, 2011, 05:02:46 pm
Just got back from a trip to San Diego. Had no car to was limited to downtown. Enjoyed trips to Coronado brewing (schwarzbier and an Idiot IPA), Pizza Port (sharkbite red, tarantula black IPA and Alesmith speedway stout) and Downtown Johnny Browns (something sour, can't remember exactly what though  ;D)

Also, thanks to Southwests bags fly free dealio I also hit up a great bottle shop and checked a case of mixed Russian River, Alesmith, Ballast Point, Lost Abbey and Port.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on May 18, 2011, 05:08:12 pm
I finally tried the DC Brau Public Ale.  It's not bad but way overpriced at $11.99 for a 6 pack.  I am fine paying that price for a worthwhile craft beer, but not an average pale ale that isn't any better than Sierra.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 18, 2011, 05:19:36 pm
Fortunate to grab a kegcan of Bell's Hopslam up in Pa. last month.  Couldn't believe it was still around. Truely a thing of beauty.....waiting for just the right time to tap!   Been getting it the last three years or so upon release in bottles but never had the pleasure of a draft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on May 18, 2011, 05:32:12 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 10, 2011, 10:36:39 am
Anyone have any experience with milk stouts? Sounds like it's similar to a guiness, a little sweeter with a hint of chocolate and/or coffee. I hear Left Hand makes a good one.
I'd check out Duck-Rabbit's, probably the best brewery in NC. They focus only on making dark beer without much marketing, brewpub, etc. You'd think they were in Asheville with all the dark brews, but are actually near the coast. It's fairly easy to find locally.

Williamsburg Alewerks also has a few good milk stouts but I think they're seasonal?

Mackeson XXX used to be my favorite but isn't brewed in the US anymore. UK version isn't as high an ABV.
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 18, 2011, 07:00:25 pm
Was in Wisconsin last week and got to enjoy a full keg of New Glarus' "Spotted Cow," which I love.  Also tried Ale Asylum's "Bedlam" which was really, really tasty......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 18, 2011, 07:59:14 pm
Stone and Lost Abbey and others are accessible via public transportation, just sayin.

http://www.sandiegoisbrewing.com/2010/04/sprinter-san-diego-breweries.html






Quote from: brennser on May 18, 2011, 05:02:46 pm
Just got back from a trip to San Diego. Had no car to was limited to downtown. Enjoyed trips to Coronado brewing (schwarzbier and an Idiot IPA), Pizza Port (sharkbite red, tarantula black IPA and Alesmith speedway stout) and Downtown Johnny Browns (something sour, can't remember exactly what though  ;D)

Also, thanks to Southwests bags fly free dealio I also hit up a great bottle shop and checked a case of mixed Russian River, Alesmith, Ballast Point, Lost Abbey and Port.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 19, 2011, 08:58:07 am
just being pedantic more like

I had about 5 hours on Sunday afternoon and didn't want to spend 2 of those on a train, or to spend 40 minutes walking the mile to and from Lost Abbey and Stone

And I'm really not that crazy about Stone beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 19, 2011, 12:54:41 pm
Quote from: brennser on May 19, 2011, 08:58:07 am
And I'm really not that crazy about Stone beers

tried their 2010 vertical epic. . . .it was terrible.  course, i realize i defeated the purpose of an epic vertical by drinking it early, but still. . .the chamomile was overwhelming.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 19, 2011, 01:33:34 pm
Ah, that makes sense.

I'm not a big Stone fan either. I haven't met one I'd turn down, but still a bit overrated.

Quote from: brennser on May 19, 2011, 08:58:07 am
just being pedantic more like

I had about 5 hours on Sunday afternoon and didn't want to spend 2 of those on a train, or to spend 40 minutes walking the mile to and from Lost Abbey and Stone

And I'm really not that crazy about Stone beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on May 22, 2011, 08:50:50 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43111350/ns/business-consumer_news/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 31, 2011, 02:53:38 pm
Epic beer weekend - in addition to the normal fare on offer at various BBQs

On Saturday with an old friend in town I cracked open bottles of Pliny, Blind Pig, Gnomegang, Ozzy, Brooklyn 1 and KBS among others

Sunday BBQ and Beer at the Big Hunt with more KBS on draught, New Holland Mole Ocho and Evolution barrel aged RIS

Monday evening was the launch of 3 Stars brewing "Syndicate" Saison at Churchkey - very crisp and refreshing, the peppercorns add a nice bite
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on May 31, 2011, 03:12:58 pm
where in northern virginia, can one find a good selection of founders beer that is carried on a regular basis?  i went to that bastard wegmans in gainsville and they had no founders.  how dare they!  i came to the conclusion that i did not like their beer selection though i did purchase a few, tall corsendonks and maybe one four pack of ommegang abbey.  i showed them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 31, 2011, 03:22:51 pm
Whole Foods in Fairfax, Norm's in Vienna, or Rick's in Alexandria.

Total Wines sometimes, but they can be hit and miss.

Whole Foods currently has Founders Old Curmudgeon 09 and Founders Red Eye on draft.

Quote from: walkonby on May 31, 2011, 03:12:58 pm
where in northern virginia, can one find a good selection of founders beer that is carried on a regular basis?  i went to that bastard wegmans in gainsville and they had no founders.  how dare they!  i came to the conclusion that i did not like their beer selection though i did purchase a few, tall corsendonks and maybe one four pack of ommegang abbey.  i showed them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hemisphire on May 31, 2011, 04:13:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2011, 03:22:51 pm
Whole Foods currently has Founders Old Curmudgeon 09 and Founders Red Eye on draft.

And note that different Whole Foods have different beers on tap - my local ones (Vienna, Reston and Fairfax) generally update on Facebook.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on May 31, 2011, 04:15:22 pm
nice.  i love fellow beer snobs.  thanks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on June 01, 2011, 06:04:41 pm
Tried out a slew of beers over the weekend....

Bought a box of Sierra Nevada's "Boot Camp" sampler- Fail.  the California Common was probably the best of them all.  The double IPA was way too bitter on the back end, the Juniper Black Ale did not get good marks, and the weizenbock was ok.

Sierra Nevada Ovila dubbel-  very good.

Sam Adams' 48th Parallel IPA- meh

Sam Adams' Double Bock imperial- this was my favorite mass produced Sam Adams; still enjoyed this one.

Lost Abbey Inferno- that was pretty nice

Full Sail Hop Pursuit- solid.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 01, 2011, 08:37:47 pm
We did a comparison of a two month old Pliny the Elder and a 4.5 month old Hopslam (our next to last one of the year) over the weekend. The Hopslam had lost a little bit, but both very nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 16, 2011, 01:18:32 pm
another one of those deal-of-the-day thingies:

$12 for a Five Beer Flight plus a Full Pint at RFD
http://sowhatsthedeal.com/promotions/12-five-beer-flight-plus-full-pint-rfd
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 24, 2011, 02:35:23 pm
I know where I'll be drinking beer in July. Hopping for some Three Floyds and Russian River, for starters.


Back again! This year even bigger and better. All July long every Paradiso location will be pouring nothing but IPAs on draft. Come try Domestic IPAs, International IPAs, Black IPAs, Imperial IPAs, Wheat IPAs and IPAs not normally in DC.
Paired with our special pizza, ?IP(izz)A?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on June 24, 2011, 02:41:29 pm
i must upload pics of my latest purchase.  a good beer haul is such a delightful feeling.  some of these beers hopefully will be new ones on most but all will be "da bomb."

and i never understand ipas.  god i hate ipas.  i don't even know why i hate them.  i just do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 24, 2011, 02:55:30 pm
I hated them too, when I was a beer beginner. Back when I though Magic Hat made good beer and Guinness was the best stout.

Don't worry, you'll get there.  ;)

We're going to Rehoboth Sunday. Time to stock up on Dogfish 90 and Palo Santo at cheap prices and no sales tax.

Quote from: walkonby on June 24, 2011, 02:41:29 pm
i must upload pics of my latest purchase.  a good beer haul is such a delightful feeling.  some of these beers hopefully will be new ones on most but all will be "da bomb."

and i never understand ipas.  god i hate ipas.  i don't even know why i hate them.  i just do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on June 24, 2011, 03:15:32 pm
i like people who look with learing eye at those who find delight in magic hat.  i like number nine.  the rest . . . ehhh.  guinness is harrible road tar, but i do like their harp in a basic food store selection.  i also like rolling rock every now and again, so there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on June 24, 2011, 03:43:43 pm
Magic hat has some good flavors, #9  especially. The spring seasonal Vinyl is nice too. Total Wine had it on sale $3.99 a sixer and I bought a case!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 24, 2011, 03:45:44 pm
Wow, I'm going to the beach at the right time. Check out the draft list. Have to limit myself at dinner time, but I'll be good and drunk by the time I hit the beach post-lunch.

Beers On Tap
(updated 6/24/11... for the absolute latest: 302-226-BREW)
.

Coco Loco (A Brewpub Exclusive, get it while you can!)

Noble Rot (on tap Friday, 6/24 at noon)

Ta Henket (on tap Friday, 6/24 at noon)

Olde School Barleywine (on tap Friday, 6/24 at noon)

Bitches Brew (on tap Friday, 6/24 at noon)

120 Minute IPA (on tap Friday, 6/24 at noon)

Theobroma

My Antonia

Festina Peche

Pangaea

Lawnmower

Raison D'Etre

Chicory Stout

Indian Brown Ale

Sah'tea

Palo Santo Marron

90 Minute IPA

60 Minute IPA

Black & Red

Zeno

Burton Baton

On Cask - 75 Minute IPA (with a cask of Spicy China right behind it!)

Dogfish Head Beach Beer (non-alcoholic birch beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on June 24, 2011, 04:00:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2011, 02:55:30 pm
We're going to Rehoboth Sunday.

I'll keep an eye out for you when I drive through.  ;)

For the record, I can't stand anything that Dog Fish makes. Even the more wine-like version. It's all just nasty tasting to me! Would much prefer a nice glass of wine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on June 24, 2011, 04:11:50 pm
uhmmmm . . . . birch beer.  handmade.  me drool now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on June 24, 2011, 04:55:31 pm
Hey, Rhett. A new potential beer stop for you while in Baltimore. Could also be a nice boost for a waning neighborhood not all that far from Fells Point. It's also very close to the Zappa memorial presented as a gift to Baltimore by fans in Lithuania.

Haussner's astir? Brewer eyes landmark for brewery and German restaurant (http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/dining/baltimore-diner-blog/bal-haussners-could-be-site-of-brewpub-and-german-restaurant-20110624,0,829146.story)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Joke Insurance on June 26, 2011, 09:40:21 am
Had these a few months ago:

(http://aleheads.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/dales-pale-ale.jpg)

(http://rabidbeergeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/IMG_0529.jpg)

(http://brejaria.com/cervejas/images/stories/jreviews/1976_GreatLakesDortmunder_1286848800.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4299851931_9af41aedbe.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3597/3343469317_a50a73f5ab.jpg)

(http://machinekit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/100_6301.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 26, 2011, 03:21:49 pm
Quote from: Joke Insurance on June 26, 2011, 09:40:21 am
Had these a few months ago:

... aaaaaaand?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 27, 2011, 02:52:01 pm
Two things I learned from going to Rehoboth/ Dogfish Brewpub on Sunday:

1. All of the rare beers that they tap on Friday night are gone before the start of Sunday lunch.
2. Americans really, really, really need to start working out more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on June 27, 2011, 03:49:20 pm
1.  i like how beer is the new . . . thing.

2.  as a gay guy, i so agree.  but blame beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonby on June 27, 2011, 04:38:38 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 24, 2011, 02:41:29 pm
i must upload pics of my latest purchase.  a good beer haul is such a delightful feeling.  some of these beers hopefully will be new ones on most but all will be "da bomb."

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Joke Insurance on June 29, 2011, 09:02:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 26, 2011, 03:21:49 pm
Quote from: Joke Insurance on June 26, 2011, 09:40:21 am
Had these a few months ago:

... aaaaaaand?

That's right!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 29, 2011, 09:13:52 pm
Quote from: Joke Insurance on June 29, 2011, 09:02:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 26, 2011, 03:21:49 pm
Quote from: Joke Insurance on June 26, 2011, 09:40:21 am
Had these a few months ago:

... aaaaaaand?

That's right!

in case you missed it: that was me prodding you for an assessment, appreciation, review, diss, etc of the beverages you mentioned.  anything worth tracking down?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 30, 2011, 09:36:13 am
I can vouch for Dale's and Stone's Levitation.  both are very, very good.  Tho I think Stone isn't thought of too highly around here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 09:43:21 am
By "around here" do you mean people on this board, or people in DC metro?

Rick's in Alexandria recently had an ipa tasting contest. It wasn't blind, so you knew which was which. I think the results were:

1. Firestone Walker Union Jack
2. Heavy Seas Loose Cannon
3 and 4. Port City IPA/Sierra Torpedo (can't remember which was where)
5. Victory Hop Devil
6. Stone IPA

Stone only got something like 4 out of 100 votes. Now I'm not the hugest Stone fan, but it still seems like there was some purposeful Stone hating going on. Port City IPA better than Stone IPA? Puh-leeze.

And for the record, my wife and I both contributed to the winner's tally.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 30, 2011, 09:36:13 am
I can vouch for Dale's and Stone's Levitation.  both are very, very good.  Tho I think Stone isn't thought of too highly around here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 09:45:32 am
Most beer by Starr Hill is pretty average, imo.

However, their Double Platinum IPA is excellent, if you like to be overwhelmed by hops. They claim an ibu of 180.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on June 30, 2011, 01:18:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 09:43:21 am
Now I'm not the hugest Stone fan, but it still seems like there was some purposeful Stone hating going on. Port City IPA better than Stone IPA? Puh-leeze.

That's why I only trust blind taste tests. I don't even trust myself to be unbiased.

Smith Commons is hosting a 'DMV Brewers BBQ' this Sunday.

Featured Breweries: $5 Pints

3 Stars Brewing Company // Washington, DC

DC Brau Brewing Company // Washington, DC

Baying Hound Aleworks // Rockville, MD

Flying Dog Brewery // Frederick, MD

Heavy Seas Beer // Baltimore, MD

Stillwater Artisanal Ales // Baltimore, MD

Lost Rhino Brewing Company // Ashburn, VA

Port City Brewing // Alexandria, VA


It's $20, but you get food (Kobe Beef Dogs, Short ribs, Braised Pork, Half smokes). Pretty good deal to check out the local brews if you're down with BBQ.

http://www.smithcommonsdc.com/index.php/events (http://www.smithcommonsdc.com/index.php/events)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 01:42:03 pm
That sounds like a nice event. But not for vegetarians like us.  >:(

My local Whole Foods ins having a local beers blind taste test on Saturday.

The Whole Foods in Fairfax has a keg of Founders Devil Dancer they're planning on tapping soon.




And did I mention this already? Forgive me if I already did. Initial beer list tomorrow, I guess.

Back again! This year even bigger and better. All July long every Paradiso location will be pouring nothing but IPAs on draft. Come try Domestic IPAs, International IPAs, Black IPAs, Imperial IPAs, Wheat IPAs and IPAs not normally in DC.
Paired with our special pizza, ?IP(izz)A?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2011, 01:48:16 pm
i wonder what a wheat IPA is like.  anyone tried one?

Quote from: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 01:42:03 pm
That sounds like a nice event. But not for vegetarians like us.  >:(

you might call them up and see if they can cut you a break since you won't be eating their expensive meat offerings... $5 for desert only or something like that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on June 30, 2011, 02:19:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 01:42:03 pm

The Whole Foods in Fairfax has a keg of Founders Devil Dancer they're planning on tapping soon.


Niiiice.
The Fairfax Total Wine must have recently received a shipment from Founders. They had Curmudgeon and Cerise but I didn't notice Devil Dancer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 02:21:17 pm
You already have, sort of.

ratebeer calls it an ipa
beeradvocate calls in an american pale wheat ale (but at 7.5 abv it's more in line with the abv of an ipa)
i call it yummy


A Little Sumpin' Sumpin' Ale
Sneaky Smooth with a Touch of What We Call Wheatly-esque-ish-ness. Crispy Wheat and Pale Malt flavors with a Big Round & Juicy Hop Finish. Everyone Needs A Little Sumpin? Sumpin? Sometimes. You Can Get It All Year Now... in a Six-Pack!

ABV: 7.5%



Quote from: sweetcell on June 30, 2011, 01:48:16 pm
i wonder what a wheat IPA is like.  anyone tried one?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 02:23:09 pm
they received some dogfish 120 and founders devil dancer in bottles yesterday. The 120 mins was gone within hours, not sure if any of the devil dancer bottles are left. But they did geta keg of it.

Quote from: slappy on June 30, 2011, 02:19:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 01:42:03 pm

The Whole Foods in Fairfax has a keg of Founders Devil Dancer they're planning on tapping soon.


Niiiice.
The Fairfax Total Wine must have recently received a shipment from Founders. They had Curmudgeon and Cerise but I didn't notice Devil Dancer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2011, 02:29:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 02:21:17 pm
You already have, sort of.

oh, right.  i forgot that L'SS was a wheat beer... didn't really taste like a traditional, non-ruined-by-too-much-hops beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 01, 2011, 07:52:59 am
Birre
 
Dupont:
Avery IPA
d?AChouffe Houblon Chouffe
DC Brau The Corruption
Founders Devil Dancer
Great Lakes Lake Erie Monster
Lagunitas A Lilttle Sumpin Sumpin
Mikkeller Centennial Single Hop Series
Mikkeller Citra Single Hop Series
North Coast Acme IPA
Southern Tier Iniquity
Trou Du Diable La Morsure
Xbeeriment Madraz IPA
Cask: Pratt St. Ale House Olivers Draft Punk

Georgetown:
DC Brau The Citizen
Flying Dog Imperial Single Hop Centennial IPA
Long Trail Double IPA
Lost Rhino Face Plant
Mikkeller Amarillo Single Hop Series
Mikkeller Simcoe Single Hop Series
Moylans IPA
Nectar Ales Nectar IPA
New Holland RyePA Hatter
Rogue Oregasmic
Schlafly Export IPA
Sierra Nevada Southern Hemisphere
Stone Cali-Belgique
Stoudts Double IPA
Xbeeriment Hoppenheimer Imperial IPA
21st Amendment Back in Black
Cask: Oskar Blues Dales Pale Ale

Old Town:
Ballast Point Big Eye
Ballast Point Sculpin
Emilesse Triple IPA
Firestone Walker Union Jack
Green Flash Imperial IPA
Green Flash West Coast IPA
Left Hand 400lb Monkey
Olde Richmond No. 11
Otter Creek Alpine Black
Stone Sublimely Self Righteous
Terrapin Hopsecutioner
Thornbridge Jaipur
Thornbridge Raven
Wintercoat Double Hop
Cask: Schlalfy Dry Hopped APA



Quote from: James Ford on June 30, 2011, 01:42:03 pm



And did I mention this already? Forgive me if I already did. Initial beer list tomorrow, I guess.

Back again! This year even bigger and better. All July long every Paradiso location will be pouring nothing but IPAs on draft. Come try Domestic IPAs, International IPAs, Black IPAs, Imperial IPAs, Wheat IPAs and IPAs not normally in DC.
Paired with our special pizza, ?IP(izz)A?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 07, 2011, 12:34:47 am
for those who hate beer:

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Free PBR at Via 19

Join WTD this Thursday, July 7th at the new Via 19 bar and lounge from 6-8pm.  They're giving away two free PBR beers per person just for RSVP'ing through WTD.  Or you can use your ticket for $5 off a bucket of Budweiser beer ($10 instead of $15).  Score!

Via 19 serves all-American cuisine in a friendly atmosphere good for lunch, brunch, happy hour, or dinner.  You can relax outside dining on the spacious patio and choose from their extensive menu that includes favorites ranging from sliders and wings to Linguine with Shrimp and Chicken Parmigiana.

See you there!

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1140 19th St NW
Washington, DC 20036
(202) 429-8889
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RSVP here: http://sowhatsthedeal.com/events/78
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 07, 2011, 08:11:15 am
Mods, please don't delete this thread!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on July 07, 2011, 08:45:15 am
What is it? A Russian beer?

Maybe a first, a spammer who not only trashes the place but also starts to participate in the discussions.  ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on July 07, 2011, 01:15:07 pm
I'm really into saisons a.k.a. farmhouse ales lately. They make for good summertime drinking, I think. Refreshing, but still with plenty of flavor and complexity.

The quintessential saison is Saison Dupont. Fantastic, of course, but it's very expensive.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/362930470_0b4f6071da.jpg)

But I was really impressed with Stillwater Artisanal's Stateside Saison (American Farmhouse Ale):

(http://www.urbanitebaltimore.com/imager/stateside-saison-stillwaters-flagship-beer/b/original/1369484/b6a9/stillwater_statesidebottle1A.jpg)

Also, Franklin's Brewery/Restaurant in Hyattsville had a fantastic saison some months ago. Alas, it was a very limited seasonal batch, but I hope they bring it back!

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1135/62833/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 07, 2011, 01:45:54 pm
Darth Ed,

Have you tried Hennepin? As good as Saison Dupont (which is indeed very good), but cheaper.

Goose Island Sofie is also very good. Have to remember to bring home a four pack the next time I go to Chicago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on July 07, 2011, 03:19:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 07, 2011, 01:45:54 pm
Darth Ed,

Have you tried Hennepin? As good as Saison Dupont (which is indeed very good), but cheaper.

No, I haven't. I'll look for it. Thanks for the recommendation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on July 07, 2011, 05:54:44 pm
Speaking of farmhouse ales, I have really been enjoying Boulevard's Tank 7 this summer.

(http://www.boulevard.com/wp-content/uploads/Brands/Brand_Tank_7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on July 07, 2011, 10:41:45 pm
I also tried Rodenbach's Grand Cru recently (on tap). Wow, it is way out there in terms of flavor. Almost like a lambic in terms of intensity, but the flavors were complex and hard to pin down. Very tart grape/cherry-like fruitiness combined with a balsamic vinegar almost. It almost tasted like a wine instead of a beer. Not for everyone, clearly, but I found it pretty interesting.

(http://blogs.eveningsun.com/troublebrewing/rbachgc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 08, 2011, 09:26:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 07, 2011, 01:45:54 pm
Darth Ed,

Have you tried Hennepin? As good as Saison Dupont (which is indeed very good), but cheaper.

Goose Island Sofie is also very good. Have to remember to bring home a four pack the next time I go to Chicago.

you can get goose island sofie at perfect pour in columbia.  One of my faves!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2011, 09:33:52 am
Thanks for the tip. Will have to stop in when I'm in Columbia for...Freefest? Wilco?

Are they in 12 oz four packs or only in a bomber?

I prefer four packs...I usually see the "special" Goose Island beers in bombers more than four packs around here. Though I did find a four pack of Matilda at Whole Foods in Dupont last fall.


Quote from: K8teebug on July 08, 2011, 09:26:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 07, 2011, 01:45:54 pm
Darth Ed,

Have you tried Hennepin? As good as Saison Dupont (which is indeed very good), but cheaper.

Goose Island Sofie is also very good. Have to remember to bring home a four pack the next time I go to Chicago.

you can get goose island sofie at perfect pour in columbia.  One of my faves!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 08, 2011, 10:08:58 am
They have both.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 08, 2011, 10:09:34 am
The Matlida is also awesome.  I haven't had a bad beer from that brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2011, 11:24:05 am
Funny, I was sitting at the "bar" at Whole Foods in Fairfax awhile ago and this beer geek was telling me about this great beer store he had happened upon up your way. He didn't remember the name, but he was trying to tell me directions. Now that I google map the Perfect Pour, I realize that's the place he was talking about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 08, 2011, 11:46:36 am
I call it beer Disneyland.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2011, 11:59:58 am
Meaning it's fulll of overpriced corporate crap and long lines?  ;)

Quote from: K8teebug on July 08, 2011, 11:46:36 am
I call it beer Disneyland.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 08, 2011, 12:43:57 pm
Meaning it's the happiest place on earth if you like beer :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 08, 2011, 02:06:14 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 08, 2011, 12:43:57 pm
Meaning it's the happiest place on earth if you like beer :)

been there once - it is a little on the overpriced side but great selection
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2011, 02:14:52 pm
So I'm having an online argument with my brother over which is a better beer town, Portland or San Diego.

Anybody have an opinion with some reasons?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on July 08, 2011, 02:19:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2011, 02:14:52 pm
So I'm having an online argument with my brother over which is a better beer town, Portland or San Diego.

Anybody have an opinion with some reasons?

Yes, the answer is Denver.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 08, 2011, 02:29:57 pm
Quote from: brennser on July 08, 2011, 02:06:14 pm
been there once - it is a little on the overpriced side but great selection


Compared to what?  DC?  VA? I guess so, but for MD it is about as good as it gets.

Corridor used to be gold standard in that area but PPour is better priced and the selection can't be beat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on July 08, 2011, 03:04:02 pm
Preferring wine much, much more to beer, this is the place that I'd like to check out sometime: Bin 66 (http://www.bin66.com/introduction.html)
Don't in the least expect anywhere 'best' in the country, or even near, but I'm sure they have some nice offerings. Beer selection looks crappy but their specialty is wine.

For beer and liquor... maybe even wine, when at the beach, try either Atlantic Liquors or Outlet Liquors, both on Rt. 1 (right side when going east) just before you reach the coast itself. Some I know prefer Atlantic Liqours but honestly can't say one is any better than the other.

Bonus points for being in Delaware: No sales tax! Of course, only significant if already at the beach or driving through.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 08, 2011, 07:23:38 pm
drink these beers . . . you will be happy that you did.  good luck finding some of them though.


(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kzsuldh6oX1qzx2oqo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2011, 07:38:01 pm
Good stuff. I've had the one on the far right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 08, 2011, 09:08:28 pm
i've had the red rice and the white.  both were solid.  not 100% sure they're worth the price... maybe 80% sure :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 09, 2011, 09:35:48 am
compared to DC - specifically Magruders/Rodmans - then again I'm a bit of a cheapskate

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on July 08, 2011, 02:29:57 pm
Quote from: brennser on July 08, 2011, 02:06:14 pm
been there once - it is a little on the overpriced side but great selection


Compared to what?  DC?  VA? I guess so, but for MD it is about as good as it gets.

Corridor used to be gold standard in that area but PPour is better priced and the selection can't be beat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 10, 2011, 08:45:56 am
Stopped into Perfect Pour on the way to Baltimore yesyterday. Agree with Brennser. Great selection, high prices. Compared to my most usual place...Total Wine and Whole Foods.

Also went on the Heavy Seas Brewery tour. Nice tour with pint glass and five 5 oz pours for $5.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 10, 2011, 09:51:20 am
I have not been to PPour since the liquor tax went into effect - definitely higher than places in DC or NOVA.  Unfortunately there are no Total Wine or Whole Foods (with liquor) up here that I know of.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 11, 2011, 08:11:09 am
I don't mind paying a higher price there when I'm looking for something special. Especially since it's a short drive from my house (unlike every store in VA).  They stock everything.  (like all those Hitachinos).  I'll pay an extra dollar or two for that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 11, 2011, 10:31:51 am
i just found the holy grail.

repeat . . . the holy fucking grail.

at wegman's in gainsville, va.  it has redeemed itself.  should i drink it, or just stare at it?


(http://aleheads.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/founders_dirty_bastard.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on July 19, 2011, 01:51:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 07, 2011, 01:45:54 pm
Darth Ed,

Have you tried Hennepin? As good as Saison Dupont (which is indeed very good), but cheaper.


had the Hennepin last weekend- i was wary at first because i had the Saison Rue, and basically poured that out as undrinkable, but the Hennepin was very nice.  (there is a restaurant in Oakland that has it on draft)

coronado idiot ipa- wonderful, although perhaps a bit too bitter on the finish

anderson valley imperial double IPA- very nice double IPA, but not on the Pliny or Tricerhops level.

will have to think about the rest that i had....

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on July 26, 2011, 06:37:44 pm
Cluth get a beer named after them by New Belgium http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/07/clutch_the_band_jams_with_clut.php (http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/07/clutch_the_band_jams_with_clut.php)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 27, 2011, 07:48:32 am
And only a few more weeks until we can buy it here!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 27, 2011, 04:06:41 pm
so how is dc brau? is it available at bars around town? can i buy a six pack ? where? what type of beer is it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 27, 2011, 04:14:33 pm
Half price draft at Pizza Paradiso tonight.



Dupont:
Rogue Imperial IPA (I2PA)
Black Diamond Jagged Edge
Mikkeller Single Hop series: Warrior
Anderson Valley Hop Ottin? IPA
Southern Tier Unearthly
Sierra Nevada Torpedo
Loup Rouge Antidote
Schlafly American IPA (AIPA)
Mikkeller Single Hop series: Columbus
Stone/Brewdog Bashah
Smuttynose Big A IPA
Firestone Walker Double Jack
Cask Ale: DC Brau Corruption, ?dry-hopped? w/ apricots!Georgetown:
Long Trail IPA
Blue Point Hoptical Illusion
Avery Maharaja
Weyerbacher Double Simcoe
Mikkeller Single Hop Galena
Oskar Blues G?Knight
Dieu Du Ciel Corne Du Diable
Belhaven Twisted Thistle
Tupper?s Hop Pocket
Otter Creek Alpine Black
Mikkeller Single Hop Magnum
Southern Tier 2xIPA
Breckenridge 471 Small Batch IPA
Moylans IPA
Nectar Ales Nectar IPA
Schlafly Export IPA
Cask Ale: DC Brau Corruption, ?dry-hopped? w/ apricots!
Quote from: hutch on July 27, 2011, 04:06:41 pm
so how is dc brau? is it available at bars around town? can i buy a six pack ? where? what type of beer is it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 27, 2011, 04:17:04 pm
i haven't had it myself

http://www.dcbrau.com/our_brau.cfm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: radley17 on July 27, 2011, 11:15:20 pm
Quote from: hutch on July 27, 2011, 04:06:41 pm
so how is dc brau? is it available at bars around town? can i buy a six pack ? where? what type of beer is it?


I have been pleasantly surprised by all their beers but the Corruption(an IPA) is the real standout so far for me. If you like em hoppy this one is well worth trying. It's kinda cool to have a DC brewery that is turning out really decent beer, hopefully 3 Stars and Chocolate City (two more soon to be in production DC breweries) will follow suit with some solid offerings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on July 28, 2011, 02:47:35 am
That Founder's Dirty Bastard is amazing. Its a mean beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 28, 2011, 07:52:37 am
Have one in the fridge to go with dinner tonight. Nice session beer.

For true meanness, try the Backwoods Bastard.  ;D

Quote from: Unsanity on July 28, 2011, 02:47:35 am
That Founder's Dirty Bastard is amazing. Its a mean beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 28, 2011, 09:23:52 am
when i think dirty bastard . . . i get all knee wobbily

when i think backwoods bastard . . . i just came.

and when i think james ford . . . i realize i said an awful thing to him the other day, and am sorry, and feel we should have a beer together sometime.  a good beer.  a beer that will make us come.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 28, 2011, 09:30:14 am
Haha, don't worry about it. I've said plenty of awful things on here I didn't mean to say too.

I'll have to think of what beers make me come...


Quote from: walkonby on July 28, 2011, 09:23:52 am
when i think dirty bastard . . . i get all knee wobbily

when i think backwoods bastard . . . i just came.

and when i think james ford . . . i realize i said an awful thing to him the other day, and am sorry, and feel we should have a beer together sometime.  a good beer.  a beer that will make us come.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 28, 2011, 10:24:16 am
if you do the groupon thing

http://www.groupon.com/deals/pub-crawl-of-annapolis?c=button&utm_content=all-deals_washington-dc_all-deals&date=20110728&division=washington-dc&p=5&s=body&sid=10936000&utm_campaign=pub-crawl-of-annapolis&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&user=a8eb20ce18dea612e604f4ae5cbf167eda6eb02bd38daa0879f2468826071716
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 28, 2011, 10:26:15 am
Dirty Bastard is ok but did not live up to the hype, IMO. I still have a few left in my fridge.

To each their own, I guess.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 28, 2011, 01:21:21 pm
Which Scottish/Scotch ales would you recommend? Is it that particular beer you don't like, or is it you don't like the style?

I generally prefer hoppy ipa's or dark Belgians, but for the stype I haven't found anything to beat it.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on July 28, 2011, 10:26:15 am
Dirty Bastard is ok but did not live up to the hype, IMO. I still have a few left in my fridge.

To each their own, I guess.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 04:17:13 pm
I'm hoping for a DC beer that you can find at area bars.. kind of like what was it..foggy bottom ale... a local beer..  also it should be reasonably priced.. there are plenty of $6 beers in dc these days.

not somethind you get at the supermarket or at two froo froo bars in col heights.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 28, 2011, 08:37:35 pm
Sounds like you might as well just go with Bud or PBR and pretend it's made in DC.

Quote from: hutch on July 28, 2011, 04:17:13 pm
I'm hoping for a DC beer that you can find at area bars.. kind of like what was it..foggy bottom ale... a local beer..  also it should be reasonably priced.. there are plenty of $6 beers in dc these days.

not somethind you get at the supermarket or at two froo froo bars in col heights.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 28, 2011, 08:42:36 pm
when he said $6 for a six pack . . . i kinda thought the same thing.  even where i live, you can't get good beer for under $9 in the grocery stores.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 28, 2011, 10:48:12 pm
I was thinking he was implying that $6 for a beer at a bar was high, and that he wanted something that was more cheaper.



Quote from: walkonby on July 28, 2011, 08:42:36 pm
when he said $6 for a six pack . . . i kinda thought the same thing.  even where i live, you can't get good beer for under $9 in the grocery stores.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 29, 2011, 04:28:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 28, 2011, 01:21:21 pm
Which Scottish/Scotch ales would you recommend? Is it that particular beer you don't like, or is it you don't like the style?

I generally prefer hoppy ipa's or dark Belgians, but for the stype I haven't found anything to beat it.


I prefer those types of beers as well.  Perhaps that's my problem.  But, I've gotta try new things and, unfortunately, it appears that Scottish ales are just not my thang.  They're ok.....but I'd almost always rather have something else.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on July 29, 2011, 06:11:52 pm
Does anyone else find the Sam Adams IPA to be totally nasty?

I am no beer expert, but when I do drink, I pretty much only drimk IPAs. And that Latitude 48 has some funky sweetness going on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 29, 2011, 06:17:42 pm
This is literally the first time I've opened this thread I think.
I like that Sam Adams Latitude one. At the moment I'm drinking an Abita Amber. It's pretty good. I have some Black Dog Ale in the fridge that I got at Franklins a few weeks ago. That's pretty good too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 31, 2011, 03:08:43 pm
Happy Fridge  :o

(http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/13443/134439892a6827f3e5ce8536fb2d71bd35024947.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on July 31, 2011, 07:15:39 pm
Bells Oberon. Tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 31, 2011, 08:43:12 pm
miller high life . . . bud in a can . . . corona in a can . . . anything by sierra nevada or sam's adams

not tasty at all.

i think the fridge just threw up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 31, 2011, 08:49:28 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 31, 2011, 08:43:12 pm
miller high life . . . bud in a can . . . corona in a can . . . anything by sierra nevada or sam's adams

not tasty at all.

i think the fridge just threw up.

Please freak out and quit the board again.

I do agree about the sam adams, some one brought that to my house.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 31, 2011, 10:39:40 pm
I'M SO FUCKING SORRY IF SOMEONE ELSE'S FUCKING OPINION IS FUCKING DIFFERENT THAT YOURS.  NOW KINDLY STICK YOUR LIFE IN YOUR FRIDGE AND FUCK OFF.


is that a good enough freak out for you?   ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 31, 2011, 11:01:57 pm
How many different Sierra Nevada beers have you tasted? Because they do make some seriously good beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 01, 2011, 09:56:40 am
I heart Miller High Life.  Champagne of beers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 01, 2011, 10:04:35 am
now we know why this thread exists!

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/DC-DC-Adults-Top-Alcohol-Abusers-in-Country-126507408.html?dr
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 01, 2011, 10:16:30 am
Quote from: K8teebug on August 01, 2011, 09:56:40 am
I heart Miller High Life.  Champagne of beers!

Walkie is the kind of guy sippin on an Sammy Smith Oatmeal Stoudt when it's 110 degrees outside walkin' around on Phish lot.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on August 01, 2011, 10:19:10 am
Quote from: Yada on August 01, 2011, 10:16:30 am
Quote from: K8teebug on August 01, 2011, 09:56:40 am
I heart Miller High Life.  Champagne of beers!

Walkie is the kind of guy sippin on an Sammy Smith Oatmeal Stoudt when it's 110 degrees outside walkin' around on Phish lot.  ;D

He doesn't like Phish anymore, he's a Widespread Panic fan now  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 01, 2011, 10:35:31 am
Quote from: Yada on August 01, 2011, 10:16:30 am
Quote from: K8teebug on August 01, 2011, 09:56:40 am
I heart Miller High Life.  Champagne of beers!

Walkie is the kind of guy sippin on an Sammy Smith Oatmeal Stoudt when it's 110 degrees outside walkin' around on Phish lot.  ;D

anything by sam smith is overrated.  most things in a phish lot are overrated.  110 degrees is overrated.  when i go to shows and sit in the shade of the lot watching it walk past me . . . i only drink belgium abbey beers such as st. bernadus or a nice version of trappistes rochefort.  if i'm feeling really sassy, i'll have a paulaner.  plus i smoke a ton of pot. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 01, 2011, 10:37:06 am
Quote from: wml7 on August 01, 2011, 10:19:10 am
Quote from: Yada on August 01, 2011, 10:16:30 am
Quote from: K8teebug on August 01, 2011, 09:56:40 am
I heart Miller High Life.  Champagne of beers!

Walkie is the kind of guy sippin on an Sammy Smith Oatmeal Stoudt when it's 110 degrees outside walkin' around on Phish lot.  ;D

He doesn't like Phish anymore, he's a Widespread Panic fan now  ;D

(http://scientopia.org/blogs/childsplay/files/2010/12/CoolCat-SayingWORD_0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 01, 2011, 11:18:31 am
Quote from: K8teebug on August 01, 2011, 09:56:40 am
I heart Miller High Life.  Champagne of beers!

It's beer??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 01, 2011, 11:22:37 am
(http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/stone-arrogant-bastard-ale.jpg)

I discovered this over the weekend. very nice. I drank it chilled, not icey or room temp.

*I've been off beer for a number of years so forgive me if this is old news. I switched to red wine because beer was causing stomach problems for a while. Now I can enjoy it in small doses again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Joke Insurance on August 02, 2011, 10:15:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 29, 2011, 09:13:52 pm
in case you missed it: that was me prodding you for an assessment, appreciation, review, diss, etc of the beverages you mentioned.  anything worth tracking down?

Here is what I tell people; buy a single bottle/can first and be the judge for yourself. I like them all, so that doesn't really help you there.

Quote from: James Ford on July 27, 2011, 04:14:33 pm
Half price draft at Pizza Paradiso tonight.

Are they in Dupont?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on August 03, 2011, 03:24:23 pm
Quote from: ggw on July 29, 2011, 06:11:52 pm
Does anyone else find the Sam Adams IPA to be totally nasty?

I am no beer expert, but when I do drink, I pretty much only drimk IPAs. And that Latitude 48 has some funky sweetness going on.

i'm not a fan of it either. . .what was worse was the sierra nevada double ipa from the beer camp box. 

had the bells oberon (draft and bottle) and pale ale last week in michigan- both were tasty (the oberon draft was the highlight).  also had the ale asylum "hopalicious" which was also good.  oh, and drank a ton of high life......and a leine's summer shandy. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 03, 2011, 05:50:40 pm
Is that Sierra Nevada's Torpedo that you disliked so much? I happen to like it. I like most of their stuff, actually.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 03, 2011, 07:13:38 pm
in my opinion . . . sierra nevada bigfoot ale is worst beer i've tasted in a long time.  glissade and summerfest make me hurl in my mouth . . . which sometimes tastes better than the beer itself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on August 03, 2011, 07:17:52 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 03, 2011, 05:50:40 pm
Is that Sierra Nevada's Torpedo that you disliked so much? I happen to like it. I like most of their stuff, actually.

no....sierra put out a 12 pack called "beer camp" and it has 4 varieties in it, including a double ipa (the others are a juniper black, california spring and a bock).....i didn't much like any of them.   i like the sierra northern and southern hemisphere, and the ovila dubbel.....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 03, 2011, 07:33:11 pm
and don't ask me why . . . but i am digging

(http://manjr.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Newcastle_Summer_Ale.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 04, 2011, 08:02:25 am
Quote from: walkonby on August 03, 2011, 07:33:11 pm
and don't ask me why . . . but i am digging

(http://manjr.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Newcastle_Summer_Ale.jpg)

I have never seen that!  Will have to check it out.  Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: thatguy on August 05, 2011, 12:49:42 pm
how the clutch beer was born:
http://www.newbelgium.com/Community/videos.aspx

jp jamming on some kegs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5bbYsqNfwE
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 05, 2011, 11:24:02 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on August 04, 2011, 08:02:25 am
Quote from: walkonby on August 03, 2011, 07:33:11 pm
and don't ask me why . . . but i am digging

(http://manjr.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Newcastle_Summer_Ale.jpg)

I have never seen that!  Will have to check it out.  Thanks!

so i'm in my local food lion.  gosh darn it, i love food lion . . . and i was looking for another sixer of newcastle summer ale, when i ran across this

(http://www.fratfury.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/newcastle-werewolf-beer.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 07, 2011, 11:35:16 am
oh . . . dirty bastard, yee was just knocked off the top

(http://www.beeraday.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Bourbon-Barrel-Stout-label-detail.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 07, 2011, 11:37:05 am
this is good too . . . harder to find

(http://www.beerboxx.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/7de45fc0db425c5aefb573686d2ca6a3/w/a/waterloo_double_8_dark_33cl.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 08, 2011, 11:47:12 am
I know it would be more impressive if I posted the bottles...but too busy at work...

Went to favorite Fairfax County beer joint with wife and daughter Friday night. Started by splitting a Founders Devil Dancer and Avery Maharaja, both on draft. Finished with a Stone IPA draft, but it tasted like water after the first two. Heard they put a keg of Sculpin on once the Devil Dancer kicked.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 08, 2011, 12:03:50 pm
founders's devil dancer . . . worth the look?  only seen it, never enjoyed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 08, 2011, 12:27:12 pm
If you like exceedingly hoppy ipa's, it's one you need to try. (I seem to recall you not being in that category).

It doesn't come cheap. I bought a single 12 oz when in NYC for $5.25 (at a beer store). It may already be gone from area shelves.

To be honest, it's a bit much for me. And I normally like my ipa's extra hoppy (The only other ipa that was too much for me was Dogfish 120). My wife loved it though. Said it tasted like "liquid weed." Whatever that means.

Quote from: walkonby on August 08, 2011, 12:03:50 pm
founders's devil dancer . . . worth the look?  only seen it, never enjoyed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 08, 2011, 01:05:10 pm
before i forget - upon return from the wilds, i had a bunch of local duluth/MN beers: finnigan's amber (quite decent), lake superior kolsch (almost too dry & crisp for me), and some other local high hops beer whose name escapes me (predictably it wasn't my fav).  also tried moose drool (from MT), it hit the spot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 08, 2011, 01:26:09 pm
By chance were the hoppy beers either of #2 or #3 on this list of best ipa's?

http://beeradvocate.com/lists/style/116

Both Minnesota beers...

Quote from: sweetcell on August 08, 2011, 01:05:10 pm
before i forget - upon return from the wilds, i had a bunch of local duluth/MN beers: finnigan's amber (quite decent), lake superior kolsch (almost too dry & crisp for me), and some other local high hops beer whose name escapes me (predictably it wasn't my fav).  also tried moose drool (from MT), it hit the spot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 08, 2011, 01:27:29 pm
Wow, that Finnigan's Amber rates pretty low...

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/finnegans-irish-amber/30378/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 08, 2011, 01:35:27 pm
pretty sure it wasn't one of those two IPAs.

finnigan's: it was my first beer after 10 days in the woods.  it was on tap (perhaps improving it - it was fresh?  a good batch?  better than bottled?).  i think i would have fallen in love with PBR, or hopslam, at that point ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 08, 2011, 02:55:24 pm
I'll be in Oregon for six days and Seattle for four at the end of the month.

My head is already exploding with the beer (and wine) opportunities, and i've barely started to research.

Any recommendations on Portland/Bend/Seattle  bars/brewpubs/tasting rooms I need to hit? Beers I need to try? Of course I'm already aware of Deschutes, Hair of the Dog, Ninkasi (and Rogue and Full Sail, though I won't bother with them since i can get them here and they're not so great anyway) Wine I need to try?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 08, 2011, 05:18:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 08, 2011, 12:27:12 pm
If you like exceedingly hoppy ipa's, it's one you need to try. (I seem to recall you not being in that category).

It doesn't come cheap. I bought a single 12 oz when in NYC for $5.25 (at a beer store). It may already be gone from area shelves.

To be honest, it's a bit much for me. And I normally like my ipa's extra hoppy (The only other ipa that was too much for me was Dogfish 120). My wife loved it though. Said it tasted like "liquid weed." Whatever that means.

Quote from: walkonby on August 08, 2011, 12:03:50 pm
founders's devil dancer . . . worth the look?  only seen it, never enjoyed.

thank you for your input on the beer.  i get my founders mixed up, and the beer i realized i need opinion on was founders centennial ipa, if you have had it.  i was informed that this beer was the beer to alter my taste towards liking ipas.    your positions on beer are outranking mine . . . i know this and i accept this.   ;)   have a great time on your trip.  i explored washington state once, but not for bars or beer, but for the incredibeness of the area.  enjoy those beautiful trees. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on August 08, 2011, 06:46:16 pm
I enjoyed this on my friend's porch this past Friday.  A perfect summer evening beer.

 (http://www.ratebeer.com/beerimages/130717.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on August 08, 2011, 11:36:25 pm
I stopped by Franklin's on Sunday to try their new seasonals, primarily their 2011 Saison, which is quite good. The brewer seems to think it's better than their 2010 vintage, but I'm not sure. I also enjoyed their Belgian Porter, Dank U, which was quite strong (6.8%). They should be releasing a Dunkleweizen soon.

Whenever I attend a concert at the 9:30 Club or Black Cat, I try to stop by Duffy's for a Ommegang Witte (on tap). I'm in love with this beer. Nice, suprisingly complex flavors for a white, while still being refreshing. I like it a million times more than Hoegaarden.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 09, 2011, 08:25:08 am
I'll always defer to you for Belgian recommendations...

Founder's Centennial was one of my early loves in terms of craft beers, and I still love it. It's definitely more drinkable than Devil Dancer or Double Trouble (the other two Founders ipa's.) I would agree with your friend that it's a great choice to convert a non-ipa person.

However, if you're somebody who's just never going to like hoppy beers, you might opt for something that's less typical of an ipa. A more malt (rather than hop) forward ipa, like Laughing Dog's Sneaky Pete. Or something with a spicey twist, like Bear Republic's Hop Rod Ryevalry. Or a Belgian IPA, like Flying Dog Raging Bitch. Or a black ipa (more roasty), like Victory Yakima Glory.

We've done a number of Washington backpack trips. One of my favorite places in the world. No doubt Oregon will be as well. We'll try to get in as much hiking, camping, beer/wine/food culture (Portland, Bend, Seattle), and Bumbershoot Festival as a four year old and her mom can take...

Quote from: walkonby on August 08, 2011, 05:18:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 08, 2011, 12:27:12 pm
If you like exceedingly hoppy ipa's, it's one you need to try. (I seem to recall you not being in that category).

It doesn't come cheap. I bought a single 12 oz when in NYC for $5.25 (at a beer store). It may already be gone from area shelves.

To be honest, it's a bit much for me. And I normally like my ipa's extra hoppy (The only other ipa that was too much for me was Dogfish 120). My wife loved it though. Said it tasted like "liquid weed." Whatever that means.

Quote from: walkonby on August 08, 2011, 12:03:50 pm
founders's devil dancer . . . worth the look?  only seen it, never enjoyed.

thank you for your input on the beer.  i get my founders mixed up, and the beer i realized i need opinion on was founders centennial ipa, if you have had it.  i was informed that this beer was the beer to alter my taste towards liking ipas.    your positions on beer are outranking mine . . . i know this and i accept this.   ;)   have a great time on your trip.  i explored washington state once, but not for bars or beer, but for the incredibeness of the area.  enjoy those beautiful trees. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on August 09, 2011, 12:33:20 pm
If you take a trip out to Hood River (highly recommended) the Full Sail tasting room view will elevate the taste of the beer. It overlooks the Columbia at the windsurfing/kiteboarding mecca. Double Mountain brewery in Hood River has some really good brews without the view.

Most of the McMenamin's pubs/hotels are great for beer and kid friendly. I stayed at the Kennedy School Hotel in Portland a couple years ago and had fun. http://www.mcmenamins.com/

Laurelwood, Hopworks Urban Brewery (HUB), New Old Lompoc are worth visiting in Portland. I'd save Deschutes for the original Bend location.

If you're in Portland on a Saturday, the market is another great place for both kids and beer. The homebrewer's clubs usually have lots of beers to taste. I've had some of the best beers at there.

Non-beer related, if you're in Portland for a few days, a day trip to Cannon Beach is an experience. Easy hiking with breathtaking views, tide pools, etc.

 
Quote from: James Ford on August 08, 2011, 02:55:24 pm
I'll be in Oregon for six days and Seattle for four at the end of the month.

My head is already exploding with the beer (and wine) opportunities, and i've barely started to research.

Any recommendations on Portland/Bend/Seattle  bars/brewpubs/tasting rooms I need to hit? Beers I need to try? Of course I'm already aware of Deschutes, Hair of the Dog, Ninkasi (and Rogue and Full Sail, though I won't bother with them since i can get them here and they're not so great anyway) Wine I need to try?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 09, 2011, 01:39:50 pm
I've stayed at the Kennedy School too.  Tons of fun!  and tater tots!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 09, 2011, 03:01:04 pm
Thanks much Slappy.

Any of those places have more than average pub fare to go with the beer? Brouwer's Cafe in Settle comes to mind as a place with great food and kick ass beer selection.

Yes, Hood River is on the list of places to stop, if only for an hour or two...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on August 09, 2011, 05:56:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 08, 2011, 02:55:24 pm
I'll be in Oregon for six days and Seattle for four at the end of the month.

My head is already exploding with the beer (and wine) opportunities, and i've barely started to research.

Any recommendations on Portland/Bend/Seattle  bars/brewpubs/tasting rooms I need to hit? Beers I need to try? Of course I'm already aware of Deschutes, Hair of the Dog, Ninkasi (and Rogue and Full Sail, though I won't bother with them since i can get them here and they're not so great anyway) Wine I need to try?

you've got the breweries i would list off the top of my head...

for wineries, i like anne amie, willakenzie and lemelson....lange is also nice.  i've always heard that penner-ash is good, but they're always closed when we go up in january so i haven't been. 

for washington wine, it seems that there's only a handful of tasting rooms in or around seattle (columbia and chateau ste. michelle are across the street from each other in woodinville)- the wineries are in yakima or walla walla.....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 09, 2011, 07:40:00 pm
DC Beer Week next week.....

http://dcbeer.com/dcbeerweek/

Among the highlights (but I'llk be opting for a cheaper option)

Founders Beer Dinner with Co-Founder Dave Engbers at Birch & Barley ? 7pm
Birch & Barley- 1337 14th Street NW, www.churchkeydc.com
Founders Brewing Company co-founder Dave Engbers will host a food and beer experience, casting light on his fantastic ales. Beer Director Greg Engert will speak to the pairings of these great brews with a menu crafted by BBCK Executive Chef Kyle Bailey and Pastry Chef Tiffany MacIsaac. This is a 5 course tasting menu that will be paired with 9 different Founders hand-crafted ales. Details of the menu are on the way and will be posted here when available. The dinner will be $75 exclusive of tax and gratuity. Call Birch & Barley today to make your reservation. 202-567-2576
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 09, 2011, 07:55:02 pm
two words


fucking sweet
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on August 10, 2011, 06:22:05 pm
Enjoying one of these right now:

(http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/troegs-javahead-stout.jpg)

I'm certainly no Rhett when it comes to reviewing beers but I'm satisfied and would be happy to drink a few more at some point in the future. Tastes clean, yet nice and dark with a nice sweet aftertaste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on August 10, 2011, 06:27:55 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 09, 2011, 03:01:04 pm

Any of those places have more than average pub fare to go with the beer? Brouwer's Cafe in Settle comes to mind as a place with great food and kick ass beer selection.


Belmont Station has a monster beer selection and decent food from what I remember, I know they had some vegan to carnivore choices. HUB has lots of vegetarian and sustainable food choices.  Bunk has amazing sandwiches and a bar not a huge selection.

Portland is so big on food carts that its probably more than a fad there. http://www.foodcartsportland.com/
They set up in bunches like an outdoor food court. Awesome and cheap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 10, 2011, 07:26:07 pm
went to a beer store, and not doing pictures and found these beers to try for the what not.

1.  spaten oktoberfest 
2.  (went abita single crazy)  abita pecan harvest / strawberry harvest / turbo dog / amber
3.  rj rockers bell ringer  (no nothing about)
4.  ayinger oktober fest - marzen
5.  two tall bottles of my favorite japanese beer (but is it safe to drink)  Orion

has anybody had any of these . . . i took pictures of them due to their awesomeness looking back at me

duvel triple hop  special edition ale

westmalle trappist ales

allagash black belgium style stout

williamsburg alewerks  brewmaster reserve bourbon barrel porter
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 10, 2011, 09:16:32 pm
I've had and enjoyed both of those

Quote from: walkonby on August 10, 2011, 07:26:07 pm
went to a beer store, and not doing pictures and found these beers to try for the what not.


allagash black belgium style stout

williamsburg alewerks  brewmaster reserve bourbon barrel porter

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 11, 2011, 08:51:25 am
Had one of these with my wife's Pad Thai last night. Maybe not the most unique choice, but damn it's good stuff.

(http://www.bevmo.com/Media/Images/ProductImagesFull/10491.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 12, 2011, 09:23:44 am
Fat Tire, Ranger IPA, and Hoptober arrives in MD on August 23rd!  Only 22oz. bottles for now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 12, 2011, 12:15:20 pm
8-beer Sampler for $12 (Plus One Full Beer of Your Choice) at Old Dominion Brewhouse for $12

http://sowhatsthedeal.com/promotions/8-beer-sampler-12-old-dominion-brewhouse
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 12, 2011, 12:21:29 pm
At last the Fat Tire "legend" can be put to rest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 12, 2011, 04:26:35 pm
(http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/st-bernardus-abt-12.jpg)
Our selection for this weeks beer tasting soire!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 12, 2011, 04:28:25 pm
beautiful glass . . . never seen that before.  i am drooling at the glass.  the beer, the sacred st. bernardus, only orgasms oblige.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on August 12, 2011, 04:44:30 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 12, 2011, 04:28:25 pm
beautiful glass . . . never seen that before.  i am drooling at the glass.  the beer, the sacred st. bernardus, only orgasms oblige.

You'll probably be able to get it or at least something close to it at Beer Wine & Co. opening in Chevy Chase/Bethesda.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Beer-Wine-Co/209343862419096?sk=wall

340 brews with a focus on the obscure and rare. Should be cool.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 12, 2011, 06:54:54 pm
I have one of those glasses.

Would trade it for one of those beers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2011, 08:00:50 am
Took Friday off and went to Rehoboth.

Did the Dogfish Brewery tour in Milton...a bit longwinded (next time wife and daughter will collect the free sample coupons and go play for 45 minutes then rejoin the tour), but can't complain about the four FREE three oz pours at the end of the tour (they had 60 MIN, India Brown Ale, Raison D'Etre, and the premium Chateau Jiahue (sp?) on tap). Butchy lesbian gave us her coupons for extra pours as well since she didn't drink, and though my daughter (or wife?) was cute...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 15, 2011, 08:55:54 am
Never done the brewery tour despite multiple trips to Rehoboth. What did you think of the Chateau Jiahiu (also don;t know the spelling). I personally find it vile and one of their worst experimental/historical beers.

But they keep making it so I guess theres a market out there somewhere.....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2011, 09:34:31 am
I thought it was decent...not terrible but not noteworthy. Would I pay $13 for the bomber (when I can get a 4 pack of 90 Min for $8.50 no tax)? No way. (and glad my wife didn't pursue it as she threatened to...)

My wife had your feelings about their Black and Red (stout), which we tasted at the brewpub our previous time out there (my brother tasted it at the Oregon Brewers Fest and liked it, so there's no accounting for different tastes.)



Quote from: brennser on August 15, 2011, 08:55:54 am
Never done the brewery tour despite multiple trips to Rehoboth. What did you think of the Chateau Jiahiu (also don;t know the spelling). I personally find it vile and one of their worst experimental/historical beers.

But they keep making it so I guess theres a market out there somewhere.....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on August 15, 2011, 10:34:45 am
Do any of the stands at Merriweather sell good beer?  Maybe I just haven't looked hard enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 17, 2011, 06:22:25 pm
merriweather sells "good" beer in one location, i think, and that is this cart, right side, which is selling star hill.  not sure what that "weird 930 bar" sells, because it is weird.

but . . . this is weirder.  so i'm in a local town where i live, roughly the size of rfk and the parking lot perhaps and there is one little gas station mart thing, still pumping bp and totally forgotten the gulf spill.  but i wanted beer on my way home so i stopped, hoping for the best.  yes, it was an impressive selection of every budweiser, coors, michelob, miller, pabst, keystone product available.  i didn't know 4loko was in bottles now.  but anyway, among all of that they had two sixers of sam adams latitude 48 ipa.  i said what the hell and got it.  the woman at the counter asked how was that stuff.  she hadn't seen anybody buy it yet.  i get home and try it, and by golly it ain't bad.  do i like ipas now?  it is the bitter that blocks my path towards these beers, but atleast i'm enjoying this one.  thank you country town store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on August 17, 2011, 11:23:10 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on August 12, 2011, 09:23:44 am
Fat Tire, Ranger IPA, and Hoptober arrives in MD on August 23rd!  Only 22oz. bottles for now.
Hooray for Fat Tire! I used to rely on a friend from Colorado to provide me with the occasional bottle. They used to refuse to sell their beer east of the Mississippi, or so I've been told. Solid, drinkable beer.

I love all of the St. Bernardus beers. They're all worth a try, but I think I like Prior 8 the best. Abt 12 is fantastic though.

If you're into Belgian beer and food, check out Mannequin Pis (restaurant) in Olney, MD. They have a good Belgian beer selection, but only in bottles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 18, 2011, 11:45:45 am
tonight at RFD: launch party for a brand-new DC brewery, Chocolate City Beer.  they'll have all four of their beers on tap @ $4/pint.

(http://www.chocolatecitybeer.com/sites/default/files/city_paper_ad_flat.jpg)

http://chocolatecitybeer.com/content/chocolate-city-beers-launch-party-rfd
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 18, 2011, 12:09:30 pm
Your ipa story sounds like my 70 year old hick town mom discovering her love for Belgian beers when she first tasted Blue Moon.


Quote from: walkonby on August 17, 2011, 06:22:25 pm
merriweather sells "good" beer in one location, i think, and that is this cart, right side, which is selling star hill.  not sure what that "weird 930 bar" sells, because it is weird.

but . . . this is weirder.  so i'm in a local town where i live, roughly the size of rfk and the parking lot perhaps and there is one little gas station mart thing, still pumping bp and totally forgotten the gulf spill.  but i wanted beer on my way home so i stopped, hoping for the best.  yes, it was an impressive selection of every budweiser, coors, michelob, miller, pabst, keystone product available.  i didn't know 4loko was in bottles now.  but anyway, among all of that they had two sixers of sam adams latitude 48 ipa.  i said what the hell and got it.  the woman at the counter asked how was that stuff.  she hadn't seen anybody buy it yet.  i get home and try it, and by golly it ain't bad.  do i like ipas now?  it is the bitter that blocks my path towards these beers, but atleast i'm enjoying this one.  thank you country town store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 23, 2011, 10:19:36 am
At least one area place is going to be sampling New Belgium...

NEW BELGIUM UPDATE!!! Well it is finally here. NB hits NoVa this week and I get my share on Thursday. The initial portfolio includes Fat Tire, Ranger, Trippel, Hoptoberfest, Kick, Clutch and Super Cru, all in 22oz. I will be tasting all 7 Thursday and Friday evenings if anyone wants some free beer. And don't forget, 10% off all case purchases. Cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on August 23, 2011, 11:19:51 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 23, 2011, 10:19:36 am
I will be tasting all 7 Thursday and Friday evenings if anyone wants some free beer.

Gee, I still remember the days when a half a beer did you in!  :D

Yeah, I know they are just tasting glasses though, at one time, that would have about been your limit. (Don't know their proper name.)

Don't worry, I'm not making fun of you Rhett; I'm just marveling over the evolution of Rhett from the days of yore. Impressive.

Sounds like a nice event. Kind of wish I could be there. Have a taste for me. One of the less hoppy, sweeter brews. Cheers.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 23, 2011, 12:10:16 pm
hahahahaha

I copied that post from a certain beer retailer's facebook page.

"I" refers to the buyer for that retailer who is making the facebook post. Meaning that he will be serving samples of all seven. And not to fear, by "sample" I mean a taste...like an ounce of each, if you're lucky.

But I do have to ratchet up my tolerance...headed to the Pacific Northwest Friday.

Quote from: Jaguar on August 23, 2011, 11:19:51 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 23, 2011, 10:19:36 am
I will be tasting all 7 Thursday and Friday evenings if anyone wants some free beer.

Gee, I still remember the days when a half a beer did you in!  :D

Yeah, I know they are just tasting glasses though, at one time, that would have about been your limit. (Don't know their proper name.)

Don't worry, I'm not making fun of you Rhett; I'm just marveling over the evolution of Rhett from the days of yore. Impressive.

Sounds like a nice event. Kind of wish I could be there. Have a taste for me. One of the less hoppy, sweeter brews. Cheers.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 23, 2011, 01:05:16 pm
i think i'm starting to like india pale ales.  that is all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on August 24, 2011, 12:14:23 am
Frisco Grille and Taphouse in Columbia, MD, had Dentergems White Beer on tap as of Sunday. Quite good. Lots of flavor, with a slightly sour aftertaste. Similar to Unibroue Blanche de Chambly. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2094/1945756374_db88cd817b_d.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 24, 2011, 08:45:50 am
Frisco Grille is awesome.  It's down the street from my house.  They're hosting what I think will be a fun night next week, just an FYI

Perfect Pour
Wednesday
August 31

5:30-7pm
   

Mikkeller Beer Tasting Event!

Meet Mikkel Borg Bjergsø, founder, brewer and owner of Mikkeller.  We will also be sampling several of his world famous Mikkeller beers too!

Purchase any Mikkeller beer in stock and Mikkel will autograph your bottle for FREE!
     

Wednesday

August 31

7pm - ???
   

Mikkeller Beer Party @
Frisco Tap House, Columbia-MD

Join Mikkel and the gang at Frisco Tap House for an amazing night of fun with over 20 Mikkeller beers on tap!
     
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 07, 2011, 12:58:53 pm
Best beers I had on my Pacific Northwest vacation:

1. Hair of the Dog Doggie Claws (barleywine)
2. Pliny the Elder (DIPA)
3. Stone Imperal Russian Stout
4. Ninkasi Tricerahops (DIPA)
5. Deshutes Obsidian (Stout)
6. Laurelworks Workhorse IPA
7. Stone Supremely Self Righteous (Black IPA)
8. Unibroue Trois Pistoles(Strong Dark Belgian Ale)
9. Hair of the Dog Adam (Strong Dark Belgian Ale)
10. Dechutes The Stoic (Belgian Quad)
11. Ninkasi Made the the Shade (IPA)
12. Dechutes Conflux #2 (Belgian IPA)
13. Southern Tier Choklat (Imperial Stout)
14. Deschutes Black Butte 23 (Imperial Porter)
15. Ninkasi Believer (Imperial Red Ale)
16. Hair of the Dog Fred (Belgian Strong Pale)
17. Ninkasi Oatis (Stout)
18. Stone IPA
19. Dechutes Hop in the Dark (Black IPA)
20. Russian River Damnation (Belgian Strong Pale)


Among bottle brought home to be tried: Alesmith Speedway Stout and Alesmith IPA.


Twelve days of heavy beer drinking and brewpub food (by my standards) and only one pound weight gain.

Brewpubs/breweries/tasting rooms visited:

Hair of the Dog, Portland A+
Cascade, Portland N/A (liked the tasting room alot, couldn't get into the sour beers)
Rogue, Portland, D (crappy service from a dumpy looking server, bad food, only the wimpy stuff on tap)
Deschutes, Bend brewery=A, brewpub=B+
10 Barrel, Bend beers=C, brewpub atmosphere=A-
Full Sail, Hood River, B- (nice river view, mediocre beer and food)


Notable eateries:

The Farm Cafe, Portland
Blossoming Lotus, Portland
Pizza Ascholls, Portland (except for the 1.5 hour wait)
Bambinos Pizza, Seattle ($2 pints of the Stone SR and Unibrous TP!!!)
Brouwers Cafe, Seattle
My brothers house, Seattle
Our friend's house, Seattle
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 07, 2011, 07:37:52 pm
did anyone get the groupon for a case of craft beer at Wagners in G'town for $22 last Thursday or Friday?

Have no idea how they can make this work financially but didn;t stop me from picking up two. When I got there Monday they had been cleaned out of Bells etc but I used one of em on a mixed case of Dale, Victory, Flying Dog and Port City

They must be taking a major bath on this though - over 1,000 groupons were sold
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on September 07, 2011, 11:51:31 pm
heading to the beach this week, will be firmly planted at the dogfish head brewpub in rehoboth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on September 07, 2011, 11:56:44 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 23, 2011, 10:19:36 am
NEW BELGIUM UPDATE!!! Well it is finally here. NB hits NoVa this week and I get my share on Thursday. The initial portfolio includes Fat Tire, Ranger, Trippel, Hoptoberfest, Kick, Clutch and Super Cru, all in 22oz.

I got most of these at Teeter - the Super Cru was undrinkable, disgusting, otherwise great stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 08, 2011, 07:14:27 am
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on September 07, 2011, 11:56:44 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 23, 2011, 10:19:36 am
NEW BELGIUM UPDATE!!! Well it is finally here. NB hits NoVa this week and I get my share on Thursday. The initial portfolio includes Fat Tire, Ranger, Trippel, Hoptoberfest, Kick, Clutch and Super Cru, all in 22oz.

I got most of these at Teeter - the Super Cru was undrinkable, disgusting, otherwise great stuff.
I thought the Hoptoberfest was decent. Agree on Super Cru - drain pour and wasn;t crazy about Clutch either (much as I wanted to LOVE it)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 08, 2011, 09:54:06 am
didnt really like dc brau at club
preferred choc city beer (copper)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 08, 2011, 09:59:15 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 23, 2011, 10:19:36 am
At least one area place is going to be sampling New Belgium...

Perfect Pour had a sampling "event" a couple of weeks ago.  Fat Tire was the only beer I chose to walk out with.  The other stuff was ok, but nothing more than that.

Would like to find a place that has Fat Tire on tap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 08, 2011, 10:00:43 am
you should go to north carolina.  they worship fat tire.  worship it.  a bartender at the beach told me that once they took it off tap for something new . . . and people actually almost rioted.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 08, 2011, 10:16:47 am
I do like it better out of the tap.  I thought it was ok out of the bottle but it wasn't anything I'd have to stock on a regular basis.

Hardly worth rioting over.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 08, 2011, 11:44:04 am
Quote from: hutch on September 08, 2011, 09:54:06 am
didnt really like dc brau at club
DC Brau just did a fantastic hefe weizen - draft only - got a growler at the brewery - small batch I think
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 08, 2011, 12:12:13 pm
Won't be on tap for a little while still.

I thought the tripple was pretty decent.  I have the Hoptober, but haven't tried it yet.  Most places should have the New Belgium stuff by now. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: chaz on September 08, 2011, 12:18:49 pm
A Georgia brewery has brewed a 9353 beer.

There's a pic in my FB of him with a bottle of it.

http://burnthickorybrewery.blogspot.com/2011/07/9353-beer.html

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 08, 2011, 02:01:34 pm
I sampled four of the New Belgian beers from the bottle (ipa, fat tire, tripel, octoberfest) and found them all pretty bland. Of course having just had a Founders Centennial and Dogfish Life and Limb on draft certainly didn't help New Belgium's chances.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 08, 2011, 04:30:25 pm
james . . . founder's ipa sold me on ipa.  now i'm leisurely trying others, and i'm noticing, a lot suck.

also, just got some new beers.  can't wait to try and post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: radley17 on September 09, 2011, 10:49:32 am
Quote from: chaz on September 08, 2011, 12:18:49 pm
A Georgia brewery has brewed a 9353 beer.

There's a pic in my FB of him with a bottle of it.

http://burnthickorybrewery.blogspot.com/2011/07/9353-beer.html


Apparently this tiny brewery in NW Atlanta has a whole line of one-off special/seasonal beers that pay tribute to various punk bands...Tesco Vee and the Meatmen's -Toolin' For Ale-nus Brown Ale anyone?

http://www.burnthickorybrewery.com/bandpage1.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2011, 10:57:30 am
If you like Centennial, give Bell's Two Hearted a try. I've heard they use the same hops. I love them both.


Quote from: walkonby on September 08, 2011, 04:30:25 pm
james . . . founder's ipa sold me on ipa.  now i'm leisurely trying others, and i'm noticing, a lot suck.

also, just got some new beers.  can't wait to try and post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on September 09, 2011, 02:29:10 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 08, 2011, 10:00:43 am
you should go to north carolina.  they worship fat tire.  worship it.  a bartender at the beach told me that once they took it off tap for something new . . . and people actually almost rioted.

Same with coastal Georgia. It was on tap everywhere I went in Savannah last weekend. They were also a big sponsor at the Craft Brew fest that was happening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2011, 03:23:40 pm
Founders Breakfast Stout is out this week, and then in October...


Grand Rapids, MI) ? Sometimes you just have to give the people what they want?

UPDATE: ?The 750 is ridiculously allocated; out of 15 states there will be 1,000 cases,? says President Mike Stevens ? from Craft Business Daily via Evan Benn of Stl Post Dispatch

UPDATE 2: Release on October 1st


Founders Canadian Breakfast Stout. Mmmm?.maple syrup.

Currently ranked the fourth best beer in the world on Beer Advocate and 15th in the world on RateBeer.

It has been rumored for weeks, even months, that this would eventually be bottled, and proof has finally arrived.

Also known as CBS, this version of the beer is aged in bourbon barrels though other past versions have also been aged in whiskey barrels.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 09, 2011, 03:56:50 pm
bourbon is a whiskey.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2011, 04:13:08 pm
Really?

Quote from: sweetcell on September 09, 2011, 03:56:50 pm
bourbon is a whiskey.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2011, 04:14:18 pm
I know where my brother will be spending his birthday tonight. Check out the Hopfest beer lineup.

http://www.brouwerscafe.com/draught.pdf

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on September 12, 2011, 11:07:07 am
The Eight Beers Americans No Longer Drink
(Could actually say 'Eight American Beers Americans No Longer Drink')
http://247wallst.com/2011/09/09/the-eight-beers-americans-no-longer-drink/2/ (http://247wallst.com/2011/09/09/the-eight-beers-americans-no-longer-drink/2/)

My initial reaction is that it bodes well for the collective tastes of Americans. Then I noticed there is no equally bland Coors on the list. So people must really be buying Coors moronic marketing of beer based entirely on temperature.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 12, 2011, 02:05:02 pm
I was in Chicago over the weekend (Hum was awesome by the way) and decided to give Goose Island another go following the sale.  Across the board, it was a lot worse than I remembered it - 312, IPA, Honker, Matilda, Sophie, Summertime, Harvest were all highly forgettable which I didn't think was the case before.

I couldn't track down the few I remembered liking to compare - Pepe Nero and Bourbon County Stout.

I thought the beer was supposed to remain unchanged after the sell.  Has anyone else thought goose island went downhill, or is it just me?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 12, 2011, 04:06:21 pm
I still have a four pack of pre-sale Matilda and was thinking of getting another four pack when we're in Chicago at Thanksgiving. I'll make sure we save some of the old stuff and do a comparison and will report back.

Quote from: imbecile on September 12, 2011, 02:05:02 pm
I was in Chicago over the weekend (Hum was awesome by the way) and decided to give Goose Island another go following the sale.  Across the board, it was a lot worse than I remembered it - 312, IPA, Honker, Matilda, Sophie, Summertime, Harvest were all highly forgettable which I didn't think was the case before.

I couldn't track down the few I remembered liking to compare - Pepe Nero and Bourbon County Stout.

I thought the beer was supposed to remain unchanged after the sell.  Has anyone else thought goose island went downhill, or is it just me?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 13, 2011, 09:06:02 am
In my mind this is beer related:

Living Social Baltimore is doing pay $10 for $20 at Whole Foods today.  I instantly thought: beer at whole foods in Virginia. Then read the fine print and found nothing to suggest this wouldn't be allowed.

Baltimore sun article confirmed deal can be used nationally, and is capped to the first 1 million buyers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 13, 2011, 12:21:14 pm
Quote from: imbecile on September 13, 2011, 09:06:02 am
In my mind this is beer related:

Living Social Baltimore is doing pay $10 for $20 at Whole Foods today.  I instantly thought: beer at whole foods in Virginia. Then read the fine print and found nothing to suggest this wouldn't be allowed.

Baltimore sun article confirmed deal can be used nationally, and is capped to the first 1 million buyers.

already halfway through the 1M quota - this one will sell out.

link to the deal: https://livingsocial.com/deals/123805?ref=conf-jp&rpi=27066465

i'll have to use mine next time i'm in VA ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 13, 2011, 09:35:47 pm
i just bought a large bottle of beer that reminds me of a forty.  i need to drink it out of a paper bag and be all redneck ghetto . . . pour some out for my home slices.  it is a new belgium ranger ipa.  i hope i didn't make a mistake.  this "being all obsessed with ipas" is scaring me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 14, 2011, 11:31:27 am
Sixpoint out of Brooklyn is debuting in DC this week.  I've only had their Bengali Tiger IPA but it was most excellent.  Hopefully we can get Cigar City here someday.

http://dcbeer.com/2011/09/12/sixpoint-brings-brooklyn-to-the-district/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 14, 2011, 11:34:07 am
I've got a Cigar City Jai Alai IPA in my fridge right now, hehehe. Bought it in Miami. I know they are in NYC. Are they in Philly or any other northeast cities?

Quote from: fatskippy on September 14, 2011, 11:31:27 am
Sixpoint out of Brooklyn is debuting in DC this week.  I've only had their Bengali Tiger IPA but it was most excellent.  Hopefully we can get Cigar City here someday.

http://dcbeer.com/2011/09/12/sixpoint-brings-brooklyn-to-the-district/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on September 14, 2011, 11:42:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 14, 2011, 11:34:07 am
I've got a Cigar City Jai Alai IPA in my fridge right now, hehehe. Bought it in Miami. I know they are in NYC. Are they in Philly or any other northeast cities?

Quote from: fatskippy on September 14, 2011, 11:31:27 am
Sixpoint out of Brooklyn is debuting in DC this week.  I've only had their Bengali Tiger IPA but it was most excellent.  Hopefully we can get Cigar City here someday.

http://dcbeer.com/2011/09/12/sixpoint-brings-brooklyn-to-the-district/

They were at the Savannah Craft Beer Fest. One of the guys said they were working on DC. They currently have a distributor in NYC and separate in Philly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 16, 2011, 12:01:36 am
(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/10002981253/1/tumblr_lr9t1yzhvb1qzs63f)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 16, 2011, 12:02:44 am
That didn't work well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 16, 2011, 12:05:51 am
There.  That is much better.

http://explodingdog.tumblr.com/post/10002981253/crazy-monster-says-why-are-you-still-at-work (http://explodingdog.tumblr.com/post/10002981253/crazy-monster-says-why-are-you-still-at-work)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on September 16, 2011, 08:54:40 am
Picked up some Founders Breakfast Stout last night at Rick's in Alexandria.  Think they're doing a tasting on Saturday at noon if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2011, 09:04:34 am
Straight from Rick's newsletter:

We are expecting some major releases this week, including Stone's 15th Anniversary Escondidian Imperial Black IPA and Southern Tier's much-requested Pumking. Both are in ridiculously short supply (at least when compared to demand), so purchasing limits are in effect. You'll also find what is likely to be our last drop of Schlafly Pumpkin Ale not to mention more Founders Breakfast Stout, so stock up now. We also received one case of DuClaw's Colossus 21% ABV (you read that right) monster barleywine. Get it while it lasts.

I'm most excited about the Stone 15 beer. If it's as good (or dare I wish, better) as their Supremely Self-Righteous Black IPA, what a treat it will be.



They do a tasting every Saturday. Here are this weeks beers (two great ipas, and that barleywine sounds great!)

On the Beermudgeon's Table:
Saturday, September 17, 2011
12 noon - 5 p.m.
?   Bell's Two Hearted Ale: Once upon a time, this IPA from Bell's was a seasonal offering. These days, this 100% Centennial hopped brew is Bell's (and our) best-seller, not to mention the winner of our inaugural IPA taste-off in 2009. ABV: 7.0%; $10.49/6 pk.
?   Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA: This year's winner of our IPA taste-off, this beauty from Paso Robles, Calif., has two consecutive Great American Beer Festival Gold Medals under its belt. Hopped with Warrior, Simcoe, Cascade, Centennial, Amarillo and Chinook. ABV: 7.5%; $12.99/6 pk.
?   Weyerbacher Harvest Ale: Here they come -- the first of the year's wet-hop harvest ales. Weyerbacher brews Harvest Ale with Cascade hops just picked from their own hop farm in Easton, Pa. This is what fresh hops taste like! ABV: 6.2%, $8.99/4 pk.
?   Ommegang Aphrodite: A few years back, Ommegang brewed a Flanders-style red sour ale called Rouge. Unfortunately, they never bottled it -- it was only available in draft form and in very limited quantities at that. Thankfully, their experiments with sour beers haven't ended and we recently received their newest attempt, Aphrodite, a sour brewed with raspberries and pears fermented with the dreaded/loved Brettanomyces yeast. The Beermudgeon got his first taste while in Chicago this summer and thought you should give it a try, too. ABV: 8.9%; $13.99/750 ml.
?   Schlafly Reserve Barleywine, Vintage 2009: Ever on the lookout for the perfect barleywine, the 2007 vintage of this brew was the Beermudgeon's introduction to the wonders of The St. Louis Brewery, a.k.a. Schlafly, at the original SAVOR event in 2008. Striking a superb balance between maltiness and hops, the brew is aged for six months (three months on Missouri oak chips) before bottling, giving the finished product a smooth taste with a distinct vanilla finish. ABV: 10.2%, $12.99/750 ml.



Quote from: nkotb on September 16, 2011, 08:54:40 am
Picked up some Founders Breakfast Stout last night at Rick's in Alexandria.  Think they're doing a tasting on Saturday at noon if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 16, 2011, 09:17:28 am
I'm working very hard to empty my beer fridge.  Have a lot of shopping to do.  Frankly, I'm having a hard time deciding where to start.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 16, 2011, 10:44:05 am
Has anyone had the Schalfly pumpkin ale?  I like to try all pumpkins for fun in the fall.  So far, no one can beat post road for me.  (Alot of people like the Pumking, but I found it to be way too strong and intense).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2011, 11:06:17 am
I think you'll find the Schalfly Pumpkin Ale to be a lot closer to Pumking than Post Road, in terms of intensity.

That said, I tasted way too many pumkin ales last year (Alewerks, Dogfish, Smuttynose, Pumking, Schalfly, Weyerbacher...off the top of my head), and found Schalfly to be my favorite...so made a pledge to only buy one sixer of pumpkin beer this year, and made is Schalfly.

That said, either my tastes have changed or they changed their taste, because I didn't like it so much the other night when we split one. Maybe I'm just not a pumkin beer guy.

Quote from: K8teebug on September 16, 2011, 10:44:05 am
Has anyone had the Schalfly pumpkin ale?  I like to try all pumpkins for fun in the fall.  So far, no one can beat post road for me.  (Alot of people like the Pumking, but I found it to be way too strong and intense).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 16, 2011, 11:20:07 am
Anybody try  the Sierra Nevada Tumbler?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2011, 11:29:23 am
I have. Good for a brown ale, but brown ale's really not my style.


Dogfish India Brown is my favorite brown ale, but then again it's only 1/3 brown ale.

Quote from: Bagley on September 16, 2011, 11:20:07 am
Anybody try  the Sierra Nevada Tumbler?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 16, 2011, 02:13:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 16, 2011, 11:06:17 am

That said, either my tastes have changed or they changed their taste, because I didn't like it so much the other night when we split one. Maybe I'm just not a pumkin beer guy.


I find the pumpkin beers to be slightly inconsistent year over year.  Good one year, not so much the next.  And vice versa.

Not good news about Schalfly's.  Theirs is one of the best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2011, 02:56:26 pm
I though maybe it was just me, but at least one Beer Advocate reviewer agrees:

I had this last year on tap, and thought it was a big dark brown ale that tasted like pumkin pie. This year, well it isn?t coming off even remotely the same.

Pours an amber color with a bit of activity, clear yet hard to see through. Head is merely and after thought.
Smells of nutmeg, cinnamon, pumpkin, and amber malt.
This honestly drinks a bit too much like a kolch or lager in the body this year. Lost is the creamy body and deep sweetness for the past. Spices dominate and the pumkin and malt fall to the back ground. Some hops in the mouth again seem to contribute to a funky poorly mixed beer. Where is the pie curstg goodness from last year when I had this on tap?

You can feel the weight of the alcohol while the beer comes off rather medium the beer clearly is a monster in hiding. The spices and bite from the hops distract. Certainly not a beer to drink a lot of and it at times almost comes off that way.

The pumpkin ales aren?t my go to beers by any stretch, but I recall this one being a nice sipper and a change for the norm. Instead I have to say Southern Tier?s pumking was far far better this year. I feel like the malt is just not there and the spices are a touch stronger than in the past and with these beers those two elements have to be just right or the whole things falls apart. I wonder if this is a result of this beer being a touch inconsistent and me just getting a batch that didn?t get it right. That said still a good example of the style. If you enjoy these flavors it is great. If however you want the beer to meld together, I feel that something went a touch wrong with this bottle and maybe this year?s batch is just a hair off. Stick with Pumking for your seasonal this year!

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 16, 2011, 02:13:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 16, 2011, 11:06:17 am

That said, either my tastes have changed or they changed their taste, because I didn't like it so much the other night when we split one. Maybe I'm just not a pumkin beer guy.


I find the pumpkin beers to be slightly inconsistent year over year.  Good one year, not so much the next.  And vice versa.

Not good news about Schalfly's.  Theirs is one of the best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: redsock on September 16, 2011, 05:36:24 pm
Sixpoint beers are being sold in growlers at D'Vines in Columbia Heights. Good way to try the new beer in town.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on September 16, 2011, 08:19:56 pm
Stopped by on my way home, and found most everything in stock from the newsletter.  Didn't see the Stone 15, but I was in a rush as I had my son with me...and he wasn't too into me taking my time walking the aisles.  Man, I love being that close to this store...and also this thread, since I'm woefully out of touch with this stuff.

Quote from: James Ford on September 16, 2011, 09:04:34 am
Straight from Rick's newsletter:

We are expecting some major releases this week, including Stone's 15th Anniversary Escondidian Imperial Black IPA and Southern Tier's much-requested Pumking. Both are in ridiculously short supply (at least when compared to demand), so purchasing limits are in effect. You'll also find what is likely to be our last drop of Schlafly Pumpkin Ale not to mention more Founders Breakfast Stout, so stock up now. We also received one case of DuClaw's Colossus 21% ABV (you read that right) monster barleywine. Get it while it lasts.

I'm most excited about the Stone 15 beer. If it's as good (or dare I wish, better) as their Supremely Self-Righteous Black IPA, what a treat it will be.



They do a tasting every Saturday. Here are this weeks beers (two great ipas, and that barleywine sounds great!)

On the Beermudgeon's Table:
Saturday, September 17, 2011
12 noon - 5 p.m.
?   Bell's Two Hearted Ale: Once upon a time, this IPA from Bell's was a seasonal offering. These days, this 100% Centennial hopped brew is Bell's (and our) best-seller, not to mention the winner of our inaugural IPA taste-off in 2009. ABV: 7.0%; $10.49/6 pk.
?   Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA: This year's winner of our IPA taste-off, this beauty from Paso Robles, Calif., has two consecutive Great American Beer Festival Gold Medals under its belt. Hopped with Warrior, Simcoe, Cascade, Centennial, Amarillo and Chinook. ABV: 7.5%; $12.99/6 pk.
?   Weyerbacher Harvest Ale: Here they come -- the first of the year's wet-hop harvest ales. Weyerbacher brews Harvest Ale with Cascade hops just picked from their own hop farm in Easton, Pa. This is what fresh hops taste like! ABV: 6.2%, $8.99/4 pk.
?   Ommegang Aphrodite: A few years back, Ommegang brewed a Flanders-style red sour ale called Rouge. Unfortunately, they never bottled it -- it was only available in draft form and in very limited quantities at that. Thankfully, their experiments with sour beers haven't ended and we recently received their newest attempt, Aphrodite, a sour brewed with raspberries and pears fermented with the dreaded/loved Brettanomyces yeast. The Beermudgeon got his first taste while in Chicago this summer and thought you should give it a try, too. ABV: 8.9%; $13.99/750 ml.
?   Schlafly Reserve Barleywine, Vintage 2009: Ever on the lookout for the perfect barleywine, the 2007 vintage of this brew was the Beermudgeon's introduction to the wonders of The St. Louis Brewery, a.k.a. Schlafly, at the original SAVOR event in 2008. Striking a superb balance between maltiness and hops, the brew is aged for six months (three months on Missouri oak chips) before bottling, giving the finished product a smooth taste with a distinct vanilla finish. ABV: 10.2%, $12.99/750 ml.



Quote from: nkotb on September 16, 2011, 08:54:40 am
Picked up some Founders Breakfast Stout last night at Rick's in Alexandria.  Think they're doing a tasting on Saturday at noon if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 16, 2011, 09:02:13 pm
new beer from founders

NOW ON TAP: the Galaxy Oat IPA, a brand new IPA, brewed with 15% oats dry-hopped and bittered ENTIRELY with Galaxy hop(s), a new hop varietal from Australia!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2011, 09:06:02 pm
Picked up two bottle of the Stone 15 at Whole Foods. They had it hidden in the back and still it was almost gone.

Went to my local Giant, and it was like the Berlin Wall had come down. Or like first time hearing Smells Like Teen Spirit on a top 40 station. Seven years living near Giant in suburbia and no craft beers. And tonight i saw a couple of new belgium beers on the ensdcap so thought i'd see if htey had any more NB. And lo and behold, they had a shitload of craft beer...Racer 5, Oberon, Dales, Little Sumpin Sumpin, Ragin Bitch, Smuttynose IPA, Terrapin Hopsecutioner, and a much of others my tiny brain can't remember. It's almost as if the deilivery truck missed the turnoff for Whole Foods and went to Giant by accident.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: radley17 on September 17, 2011, 02:57:40 am
This Sunday(the 18th) at Red Palace the members of Clutch doing a release party of the New Belgian beer they helped develop...Clutch the dark sour ale...apparently they may be playing an acoustic set

http://redpalacedc.com/calendar/new-belgium-brewing-clutch-dark-soul-ale-release-party/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 19, 2011, 02:30:11 pm
We survived a Sunday afternoon in the National Zoo with a four year old that also included some sort of Latino festival in the zoo (I think I saw Hutch walking around with a bowl of fruit on her head!!!), so decided we needed to reward ourselves with a stop at ChurchKey on the way home.

Where we both had this amazing beer. 10.8% abv with some excellent hoppy and roasty action going on. Highly recommended, get it while you can.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EbTjIQ3afhA/TmOsKARm_LI/AAAAAAAAD7U/w9Jg929FZdE/s1600/Stone+15th.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 19, 2011, 03:24:59 pm
FYI, Fat Tire on tap at Frisco Grille in Columbia.

I had the Guinness Black Lager over the weekend.  Not a terrible beer, but I think I'd rather stick with regular Guinness.  Somewhere between a lager and a porter, but without the porter bite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on September 19, 2011, 03:29:06 pm
After enjoying box seats at the Redskins game I braved s shit-ton of traffic to hit up that Clutch beer release party. They had a capacity of 106, my friend and I were # 104 and 105. Clutch played an hour set for free. It started acoustic but by time they played "Big News" it was full on electric. Everyone in the place was getting rowdy off 9% Clutch beer! That beer is easily the best New Belgium has to offer. The brewers were hanging out in there too. Word is Clutch beer is a one time thing, never to be brewed again. It was being sold at the bar, $20 a pint. It did come with a commemorative beer glass and they let you keep the empty bottle.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 19, 2011, 03:37:56 pm
Wow, $20 a pint. I can't imagine it was worth it (?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 19, 2011, 05:24:00 pm
i must the only person on here . . . that hates clutch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2011, 05:33:18 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 19, 2011, 05:24:00 pm
i must the only person on here . . . that hates clutch.

you were the only person here who hates clutch (i used the past tense because as soon as a moderator reads that, you membership will be in the past ;D)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 19, 2011, 05:35:26 pm
actually . . . i was waiting for yada to make his on cue responce.

but you'll do.

i don't think i'm straight enough to like them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2011, 05:49:51 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 19, 2011, 05:35:26 pm
i don't think i'm straight enough to like them.

good point, could be...  however, i heard that they are working on "Beard: The Musical".  maybe that'll change your mind?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 19, 2011, 05:52:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 19, 2011, 05:49:51 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 19, 2011, 05:35:26 pm
i don't think i'm straight enough to like them.

good point, could be...  however, i heard that they are working on "Beard: The Musical".  maybe that'll change your mind?

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 19, 2011, 06:25:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 19, 2011, 03:37:56 pm
Wow, $20 a pint. I can't imagine it was worth it (?)
The one bottle I had was not good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on September 20, 2011, 01:42:12 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 19, 2011, 03:37:56 pm
Wow, $20 a pint. I can't imagine it was worth it (?)

Of course it wasn't worth 20 bucks, but hey the show was free and I got a New Belgium glass with it. I do stand by my conclusion that Clutch is the best beer from New Belgium. Its fairly unique and has a sour aroma that I found interesting. The other beers I tried from them were good I guess, but not really stand outs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 20, 2011, 09:58:36 am
Don't know if any of you are driving through MD this week, but Pine Orchard liquors in Ellicott City is having a huge sale with the entire store 1 dollar over cost.  I did see some hippie kid buy all the pumking, but there's plenty else to chose from.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on September 20, 2011, 11:45:44 am
Quote from: K8teebug on September 19, 2011, 03:24:59 pm

I had the Guinness Black Lager over the weekend.  Not a terrible beer, but I think I'd rather stick with regular Guinness.  Somewhere between a lager and a porter, but without the porter bite.

Have you had the Full Sail Sessions Black Lager? Just wondering how you think it compares.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 20, 2011, 11:50:02 am
When it comes to Guinness, is there anything that beats the Foreign Extra Stout? I think not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on September 20, 2011, 12:08:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 20, 2011, 11:50:02 am
When it comes to Guinness, is there anything that beats the Foreign Extra Stout? I think not.
I can't say definitively until I try the black lager.
When it comes to beer, drinkin' is better than thinkin' when it comes to taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 20, 2011, 02:40:43 pm
I had a bottle last night - it was good but needed to warm up significantly for all the flavours to come through

Quote from: James Ford on September 19, 2011, 02:30:11 pm
We survived a Sunday afternoon in the National Zoo with a four year old that also included some sort of Latino festival in the zoo (I think I saw Hutch walking around with a bowl of fruit on her head!!!), so decided we needed to reward ourselves with a stop at ChurchKey on the way home.

Where we both had this amazing beer. 10.8% abv with some excellent hoppy and roasty action going on. Highly recommended, get it while you can.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EbTjIQ3afhA/TmOsKARm_LI/AAAAAAAAD7U/w9Jg929FZdE/s1600/Stone+15th.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 20, 2011, 03:11:07 pm
Quote from: slappy on September 20, 2011, 12:08:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 20, 2011, 11:50:02 am
When it comes to Guinness, is there anything that beats the Foreign Extra Stout? I think not.
I can't say definitively until I try the black lager.
When it comes to beer, drinkin' is better than thinkin' when it comes to taste.

I would say that it's just okay. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 20, 2011, 08:36:03 pm
Just got back from Frisco Grille in Columbia where they have the Clutch New Belgian on tap (for now).  It's really good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 20, 2011, 09:15:09 pm
just discovered a place where i live that has ayinger oktoberfest on draft.  but i'm not telling you anything else.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 21, 2011, 01:52:51 pm
So I tried SixPoint Bengali Tiger in a can last night - did not like at all - too bitter - just generally seemed unbalanced
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 21, 2011, 05:20:17 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 20, 2011, 09:15:09 pm
just discovered a place where i live that has ayinger oktoberfest on draft.  but i'm not telling you anything else.



If you live 50 miles from DC, I don't think anyone cares!!  ::)

In other news, anyone been to PI DC yet on 9th and F? Great draft and beer list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 21, 2011, 09:25:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 21, 2011, 05:20:17 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 20, 2011, 09:15:09 pm
just discovered a place where i live that has ayinger oktoberfest on draft.  but i'm not telling you anything else.



If you live 50 miles from DC, I don't think anyone cares!!  ::)

In other news, anyone been to PI DC yet on 9th and F? Great draft and beer list.

you never disappoint.

in other backwoods news . . . not bad for picking it up at seven eleven.

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 22, 2011, 03:50:32 am
Plan to stop at the Burley Oak Brewery (http://burleyoak.com/the-brewery.cfm?CFID=6957934&CFTOKEN=89202324) sometime to check it out. It's brand new and suspect it might take a little while to really take off.

Don't know if it will be all lost on me or not since I'm not much of a beer drinker at all. I never go up to the Dogfish Brewery because I cannot stand any of their products. Got a chance to taste lots of different ones at some trade show and they were all just really nasty to my pallet. Still love a nice rich Guinness on tap or maybe an ale on the sweet side. I tend to like wheat beers too. Really like Newky and a Stella, preferably on tap. Stella bottles are okay but not as sweet as on tap. So, whatever I come back and say about Burley Oak beer, take it with a fistful of rock salted beer nuts and pretzels. Generally, I tend to prefer a nice wine or cocktail over beer. Depends on my mood.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 22, 2011, 08:13:27 am
I'll grant you that a Guinness is good beer (though there are a hundred craft brwewed stouts that are equal or superior, imo).

But saying that you can't stand Dogfish and two sentences later saying you really like Newcastle and Stella is analagous to saying you can't stand My Bloody Valentine but you really like Phil Collins and Bob Seger.  ;)


Quote from: Jaguar on September 22, 2011, 03:50:32 am
Plan to stop at the Burley Oak Brewery (http://burleyoak.com/the-brewery.cfm?CFID=6957934&CFTOKEN=89202324) sometime to check it out. It's brand new and suspect it might take a little while to really take off.

Don't know if it will be all lost on me or not since I'm not much of a beer drinker at all. I never go up to the Dogfish Brewery because I cannot stand any of their products. Got a chance to taste lots of different ones at some trade show and they were all just really nasty to my pallet. Still love a nice rich Guinness on tap or maybe an ale on the sweet side. I tend to like wheat beers too. Really like Newky and a Stella, preferably on tap. Stella bottles are okay but not as sweet as on tap. So, whatever I come back and say about Burley Oak beer, take it with a fistful of rock salted beer nuts and pretzels. Generally, I tend to prefer a nice wine or cocktail over beer. Depends on my mood.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 22, 2011, 10:07:54 am
^ Ha ha. I told you I'm not a beer person. Dogfish would make me sick if I had to finish a whole bottle. Lots of beers are like that to me. Not sure exactly what it is. The hops maybe? Something in the brewing process? Landshark and Corona are super easy for me to drink but even I can't help but wonder where the beer is in their products. For me, it's about whether or not I can stomach the beer, then select by taste. Seriously limits the quality of my very short acceptable list.

I prefer a thick creamy and sweet stout when going dark. Which would you suggest? I've had a few others but tend to go back to Guinness providing it's on draft. The cans and bottles are barely even worth cooking with. Shame they can't properly preserve that quality in a packaged good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 22, 2011, 10:34:16 am
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 22, 2011, 10:52:35 am
Hmmm...anybody else have some ideas on this?

Limiting myself to stouts which aren't overly hoppy, are sweet-ish, aren't overly high in alcohol (ala Guinness), and are available locally, Id say:


Bells Double Cream Stout or Bells Kalamazoo Stout
Rogue Chocolate Stout or Rogue Shakespeare Stout

or maybe even a porter, like

Founders Porter
Smuttynose Robust Porter

or, sticking within geographic proximity to Guinness


Sam Smith Oatmeal Stout
Young's Double Chocolate Stout

Heck, even Stockyard Stout at $5.99/ sic pack from Trader Joes (actually brewed by Goose Island I think) is pretty good.


Quote from: Jaguar on September 22, 2011, 10:07:54 am

I prefer a thick creamy and sweet stout when going dark. Which would you suggest? I've had a few others but tend to go back to Guinness providing it's on draft. The cans and bottles are barely even worth cooking with. Shame they can't properly preserve that quality in a packaged good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 22, 2011, 10:59:13 am
I recommend Meantime London Porter, or Stout if you must.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 22, 2011, 11:32:53 am
Thanks for the suggestions you two. Will try to keep those in mind as I'd like to try them.

Had a London Stout once and kind of liked it but still think the Irish do it better. Then again, it was bottled which might be an unfair comparison to a Guinness on draft.

All of those sound good. Generally, it's not the alcohol content that seems to bother me. Something else within the brews of most beers. I don't like containers over 16 ozs either. By the time I get that low in the drink, it all gets too flat, warm and nasty.

The Trader Joe's and Wegmans thing is a big tease for me. Neither of those stores anywhere around here and, due to effed up Maryland liquor laws, I can't buy them when I'm in town visiting family. Of course, I do go to both those stores to stock up on food and other products they offer. Better selections and prices.

Have to go off to work and hope to see a few more suggestions when I get back.

There was some German beer that I really liked a whole lot that I had at the House Of Europe (or whatever it's called) in Tenly Town (I think) on Wisconsin Ave.. Think it started with a B. Biersomethingorother maybe. It was a very nice creamy lighter ale.

Cheers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Vas Deferens on September 22, 2011, 01:22:27 pm
Any bars in DC serving hard ciders?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 22, 2011, 01:30:04 pm
ChurchKey currently has that Clutch beer. $6.50 for a 13 oz pour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on September 22, 2011, 07:47:37 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on September 22, 2011, 11:32:53 am
Thanks for the suggestions you two. Will try to keep those in mind as I'd like to try them.

Had a London Stout once and kind of liked it but still think the Irish do it better. Then again, it was bottled which might be an unfair comparison to a Guinness on draft.

All of those sound good. Generally, it's not the alcohol content that seems to bother me. Something else within the brews of most beers. I don't like containers over 16 ozs either. By the time I get that low in the drink, it all gets too flat, warm and nasty.

The Trader Joe's and Wegmans thing is a big tease for me. Neither of those stores anywhere around here and, due to effed up Maryland liquor laws, I can't buy them when I'm in town visiting family. Of course, I do go to both those stores to stock up on food and other products they offer. Better selections and prices.

Have to go off to work and hope to see a few more suggestions when I get back.

There was some German beer that I really liked a whole lot that I had at the House Of Europe (or whatever it's called) in Tenly Town (I think) on Wisconsin Ave.. Think it started with a B. Biersomethingorother maybe. It was a very nice creamy lighter ale.

Cheers.

If you like a stout on the sweet side try a milk stout.
Regionally Duck+Rabbit Milk Stout would be my pick. Not too hard to find.
Also Williamsburg AleWerks Coffeehouse Stout is tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 23, 2011, 07:25:04 pm
currently enjoying an Odell's IPA here in boulder, CO (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/267/35626).  i'm a noted non-fan of IPAs but this one is damn tasty - prolly because it doesn't really taste like a typical IPA.  there are some fun spice flavors in there. 

any other beers or (preferably) breweries i need to check out while i'm here?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 24, 2011, 11:57:33 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 23, 2011, 07:25:04 pm
currently enjoying an Odell's IPA here in boulder, CO (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/267/35626).  i'm a noted non-fan of IPAs but this one is damn tasty - prolly because it doesn't really taste like a typical IPA.  there are some fun spice flavors in there. 

any other beers or (preferably) breweries i need to check out while i'm here?

Avery and Great Divide.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 24, 2011, 12:44:33 pm
Those are the two I'd name as well.

Still kicking myself for jogging by the Great Divide tasting room twice and not stopping in. Though I was less into beer then.

Oskar Blues is another Colorado favorite as well.

And check oiut the Cheeky Monk in Denver. Great Belgian beer bar. Though I hot food poisoning from the out of season mussels I had there.

Quote from: Yada on September 24, 2011, 11:57:33 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 23, 2011, 07:25:04 pm
currently enjoying an Odell's IPA here in boulder, CO (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/267/35626).  i'm a noted non-fan of IPAs but this one is damn tasty - prolly because it doesn't really taste like a typical IPA.  there are some fun spice flavors in there. 

any other beers or (preferably) breweries i need to check out while i'm here?

Avery and Great Divide.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 24, 2011, 03:12:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 24, 2011, 12:44:33 pm
Those are the two I'd name as well.

Still kicking myself for jogging by the Great Divide tasting room twice and not stopping in. Though I was less into beer then.

Oskar Blues is another Colorado favorite as well.

And check oiut the Cheeky Monk in Denver. Great Belgian beer bar. Though I hot food poisoning from the out of season mussels I had there.

Quote from: Yada on September 24, 2011, 11:57:33 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 23, 2011, 07:25:04 pm
currently enjoying an Odell's IPA here in boulder, CO (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/267/35626).  i'm a noted non-fan of IPAs but this one is damn tasty - prolly because it doesn't really taste like a typical IPA.  there are some fun spice flavors in there. 

any other beers or (preferably) breweries i need to check out while i'm here?

Avery and Great Divide.

Mussels + Middle America don't mix.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 24, 2011, 06:30:05 pm
had Great Divide's Hades (a belgian ale). goddam tastiest thing i've had in a while.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on September 25, 2011, 04:25:06 am
Before Kyuss Lives! I hit up the Church key and was impressed. It was nice to have Clutch on tap. Thanks for the heads up James Ford.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 26, 2011, 09:49:39 am
My absolute favorite IPA comes from Colorado - Breckenridge Small Batch 471 DIPA.  YUM!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 26, 2011, 10:29:40 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 24, 2011, 06:30:05 pm
had Great Divide's Hades (a belgian ale). goddam tastiest thing i've had in a while.

other locals that i had: Boulder Beer's "Hazed and Infused" (pretty tasty, very complex, lovely smell, http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/130) and Avery's "Ellie's Brown Ale" (good but pretty average IMO, a brown ale aficionado assured me it was awesome, http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30/2894).

never made it to a brewery/tasting room because of group dynamics.  grrrr.  i happened to walk in front of the local brewers association which was unfortunately closed.  would have loved to buy some of their t-shirts, like "make beer not war" and "this is my beer.  MAKE YOUR OWN."   overall i really liked boulder.  beautiful setting, strong beer culture and a fit population.  i'd have to step up my game if i moved there ;D 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 28, 2011, 08:00:27 pm
i like to give it up to grocery stores that try.  out in here in the country, we have country stores, convenience stores, corner markets, drug stores, small grocery stores, and a walmart . . . that sell beer.  it is a lot.  rednecks love beer.  but out of all of those choices, only one tries.  lost in a world of miller, bud, coors, michelob and anything four dollars a twelve pack, is a grocery store that totally altered the makeup of their store so they could have a better wine and beer selection, with a walk in cooler to boot.  plus single beers and everything overpriced.  but i didn't care and got one of each of these to try

1. chimay ale grande reserve (tall)

six pack of singles contained

sierra nevada torpedo (somehow i remeber hating this before, but now i like ipas)
heineken dark
heavy seas peg leg imperial stout
widmer brothers  rotator ipa
lancaster brewing  hop hog  ipa
spaten oktoberfest

(somehow i also feel that most of these, beside the chimay and spaten, of course, and maybe the heineken . . . are horrible beers and i'll hate them.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 28, 2011, 08:09:56 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 28, 2011, 08:00:27 pm

heavy seas peg leg imperial stout

Har har, matey. Let me know what this one is like.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2011, 08:47:00 pm
it's kind of average as far as imperial stouts go

but it is dirt cheap as far as imperial stouts go

but I'd definitely take it over anything with the name "heineken" on it

Heavy Seas Loose Cannon IPA is top notch (but Jag wouldn't like it) as far as Heavy Seas beer go

Quote from: Jaguar on September 28, 2011, 08:09:56 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 28, 2011, 08:00:27 pm

heavy seas peg leg imperial stout

Har har, matey. Let me know what this one is like.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 28, 2011, 08:58:05 pm
"what kinda beer you like"

"heineken"

"heineken?! . . . fuck that shit.  pabst blue ribbon"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 28, 2011, 09:03:13 pm
^ That just goes from bad to worse!

LOVE that movie though and that part still cracks me up.


Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2011, 08:47:00 pm
Heavy Seas Loose Cannon IPA is top notch (but Jag wouldn't like it) as far as Heavy Seas beer go

Thanks for the mini review.

I'll avoid this one or I'd probably be tossing my cookies overboard. Probably best that I stick with the ginger beer on this one.

Btw, would I like Flat Tire? There's a place here with a nice respectable seafaring name that advertises that they serve it at their bar. Thought that I might pop in one day and try one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 28, 2011, 09:07:57 pm
i think fat tire products are a ruse put on by some big name piss beer company to move product.  it tastes horrible and the campaign push of this beer reaks of lots of money involved.  stay away i say.  but that is just me.  i don't mind heineken.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on September 29, 2011, 12:43:48 am
had a Starr Hill Boxcar Pumpkin Porter and a 90m IPA tonight ... really liked the starr hill, a lot more subtle than a lot of pumpkin beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on September 29, 2011, 12:47:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 22, 2011, 01:30:04 pm
ChurchKey currently has that Clutch beer. $6.50 for a 13 oz pour.

Clutch is $6.99 for 22 oz. bottle at Teeter in NoMa
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on September 29, 2011, 02:37:06 am
NoMa?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 29, 2011, 06:21:20 am
North of Massachusetts

Quote from: Unsanity on September 29, 2011, 02:37:06 am
NoMa?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 29, 2011, 10:23:24 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 28, 2011, 09:07:57 pm
i think fat tire products are a ruse put on by some big name piss beer company to move product.  it tastes horrible and the campaign push of this beer reaks of lots of money involved.  stay away i say.  but that is just me.  i don't mind heineken.

New Belgium just came to the DC area.  They've been a mainstay (though not the best!) in other craft beer markets for years.   The "marketing" push you're sensing is actually just the buzz from people who are excited to finally have easy access.

That said, I agree - Fat Tire is a sour Amber Ale that I do not enjoy.  The other night I had a Super Cru, a kick in the ass brewed with Asian Pear juice.  Not necessarily an A++, but worthy of a Tuesday night buzz.  I understand their Grand Cru is worthy, but it's also quite hard to find....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 29, 2011, 02:42:32 pm
Hey Jaguar, perhaps this is the beer for you!

Got a growler of this for the weekend. Have had it before. Very sweet stout. Some would say cloyingly sweet, though I wouldn't. Tastes like a liquid Tootsie Roll.

 Southern Tier Choklat is similiar, minus the coffee. Though the Mokah to be much heavier on the chocolate than on the coffee itself.

Sorry about the picture size. I never know how to downsize them.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Bq0XIkL5-XU/TNybsTRkG1I/AAAAAAAAAhA/JWBxTs0gX-0/s1600/Southern+Tier+Mokah-7-31-10.JPG)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 29, 2011, 04:12:07 pm
Oh, these sound delicious! Definitely checking around town for something of theirs.

Check out their selections page (http://www.southerntierbrewing.com/beers.html) from their website. Looks like they offer a whole lot that I might like.  :o ;D  That's saying a lot for a very minor beer drinker.

Walky, you've got to try to find some of that Old Man Winter brew. Get some soon and try it out the night of your first snow fall. Just don't let it sit around until spring. Then come back and let us know how it is.

Btw, you guys turned me off to that Flat Tire stuff. Sounds like I'd keel over dead off the bar stool before I even finished the bottle or pint. Still would like a sip just to know for myself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 30, 2011, 10:16:16 am
have we talked about Sixpoint beers yet? That Bengali Tiger IPA is nasty - kind of oily or something - dislike!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 30, 2011, 11:26:31 am
Anyone know where I could find that Stone 15?  I can't find it anywhere.

MD, preferably.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 30, 2011, 11:27:52 am
Haven't had the Sixpoint IPA, but did have the burger beer and really liked it.  Very drinkable.

All the Southern Tier beers I've had are just way too intense.  I do not need that much flavoring in beer.  Like a chocolate raspberry flavored coffee....ick.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 30, 2011, 11:28:27 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 30, 2011, 11:26:31 am
Anyone know where I could find that Stone 15?  I can't find it anywhere.

MD, preferably.

I saw it at Beltway Liquors last week.  Which means it's likely also at Corridor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 30, 2011, 12:15:56 pm
Do you say the same thing about food in terms of not liking much flavoring?

If I'm pairing a beer with a meal, I can appreciate not wanting to much intensity in a beer. You don't want to overwhelm the food.

But with the Mokah and the Choklat (and Pumking), they're dessert beers to be sipped on their own, maybe with a piece of dark chocolate. So to me, the more flavor the better! That said, some of flavors that they offer just don't sound appealing in and of themselves (like the one you mentioned).

The Southern Tier Harvest Ale is on the other end of the spectrum. Very bland and boring.

Quote from: K8teebug on September 30, 2011, 11:27:52 am

All the Southern Tier beers I've had are just way too intense.  I do not need that much flavoring in beer.  Like a chocolate raspberry flavored coffee....ick.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 30, 2011, 01:09:38 pm
I think the Pumking is just way too much.  And the creme brulee stout.  I understand their appeal, but they're just too much.  I don't need to be hit in the face by my pumpkin beer.  Post Road is my favorite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 30, 2011, 01:23:38 pm
different strokes, Post Road is my least favorite of the pumpkins I've tried because there isn't enough going on
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 30, 2011, 01:42:55 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 30, 2011, 11:26:31 am
Anyone know where I could find that Stone 15?  I can't find it anywhere.

MD, preferably.

Not sure how close you are to Columbia, but it's certainly at the Perfect Pour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 30, 2011, 01:48:46 pm
Quote from: imbecile on September 30, 2011, 01:42:55 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 30, 2011, 11:26:31 am
Anyone know where I could find that Stone 15?  I can't find it anywhere.

MD, preferably.

Not sure how close you are to Columbia, but it's certainly at the Perfect Pour.

Chevy Chase Wine has it too, and a cool search function for their inventory

http://www.chevychasewine.com/products.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 30, 2011, 02:45:55 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on September 30, 2011, 01:23:38 pm
different strokes, Post Road is my least favorite of the pumpkins I've tried because there isn't enough going on

that is funny.  I love to hear people's thoughts on their favorite pumpkin beer!  I do find that those who love pumpking don't really care for post road. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 30, 2011, 03:18:48 pm
(http://www.foundersbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/CBS_bottle-630x908.jpg)


comes out tomorrow
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 30, 2011, 03:50:07 pm
You guys need this:

Untappd Android App (http://market.android.com/details?id=com.untappdllc.app)

(http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=qr&chs=150x150&chl=market://search%3Fq%3Dpname:com.untappdllc.app)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 30, 2011, 03:55:57 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 30, 2011, 03:50:07 pm
You guys need this:

Untappd Android App (http://market.android.com/details?id=com.untappdllc.app)

(http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=qr&chs=150x150&chl=market://search%3Fq%3Dpname:com.untappdllc.app)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjcQoqfmSk
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 30, 2011, 04:02:22 pm
I disagree.  I think I'm more fun:

"Untappd is a new way to socially track, rate, & share with your friends what beers you're enjoying, as well as where you're enjoying them. You can see what beers are trending nearby and where you can find them. Untappd will also share recommendations based on your drinking preferences. Curious about a specific beer? See what other users are saying about it and add it to your wish list to make sure you remember to find it! As you explore more brews and locations, you will uncover a variety of badges."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on September 30, 2011, 04:16:48 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 30, 2011, 04:02:22 pm
I disagree.  I think I'm more fun:

"Untappd is a new way to socially track, rate, & share with your friends what beers you're enjoying, as well as where you're enjoying them. You can see what beers are trending nearby and where you can find them. Untappd will also share recommendations based on your drinking preferences. Curious about a specific beer? See what other users are saying about it and add it to your wish list to make sure you remember to find it! As you explore more brews and locations, you will uncover a variety of badges."

i dunno, 20-year-old BBS technology seems like a better way to track our beer drinking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 30, 2011, 06:07:45 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 28, 2011, 08:00:27 pm
i like to give it up to grocery stores that try.  out in here in the country, we have country stores, convenience stores, corner markets, drug stores, small grocery stores, and a walmart . . . that sell beer.  it is a lot.  rednecks love beer.  but out of all of those choices, only one tries.  lost in a world of miller, bud, coors, michelob and anything four dollars a twelve pack, is a grocery store that totally altered the makeup of their store so they could have a better wine and beer selection, with a walk in cooler to boot.  plus single beers and everything overpriced.  but i didn't care and got one of each of these to try

1. chimay ale grande reserve (tall)

six pack of singles contained

sierra nevada torpedo (somehow i remeber hating this before, but now i like ipas)
heineken dark
heavy seas peg leg imperial stout
widmer brothers  rotator ipa
lancaster brewing  hop hog  ipa
spaten oktoberfest

(somehow i also feel that most of these, beside the chimay and spaten, of course, and maybe the heineken . . . are horrible beers and i'll hate them.)

high seas peg leg stout - awesome!
spaten - awesome, as always.
sierra torpedo - i think i liked it . . . but good god, can one beer have anymore ipa in it?
heineken dark - good, liked it, so there.
the others have not been drunk into a state of drunk, which is odd by now.

take that, app.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 30, 2011, 07:37:32 pm
If u manage to score a sip oif the Founders CBS, you'll realize just how average the Peg Leg is.
   ;)
Quote from: walkonby on September 30, 2011, 06:07:45 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 28, 2011, 08:00:27 pm
i like to give it up to grocery stores that try.  out in here in the country, we have country stores, convenience stores, corner markets, drug stores, small grocery stores, and a walmart . . . that sell beer.  it is a lot.  rednecks love beer.  but out of all of those choices, only one tries.  lost in a world of miller, bud, coors, michelob and anything four dollars a twelve pack, is a grocery store that totally altered the makeup of their store so they could have a better wine and beer selection, with a walk in cooler to boot.  plus single beers and everything overpriced.  but i didn't care and got one of each of these to try

1. chimay ale grande reserve (tall)

six pack of singles contained

sierra nevada torpedo (somehow i remeber hating this before, but now i like ipas)
heineken dark
heavy seas peg leg imperial stout
widmer brothers  rotator ipa
lancaster brewing  hop hog  ipa
spaten oktoberfest

(somehow i also feel that most of these, beside the chimay and spaten, of course, and maybe the heineken . . . are horrible beers and i'll hate them.)

high seas peg leg stout - awesome!
spaten - awesome, as always.
sierra torpedo - i think i liked it . . . but good god, can one beer have anymore ipa in it?
heineken dark - good, liked it, so there.
the others have not been drunk into a state of drunk, which is odd by now.

take that, app.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 01, 2011, 11:35:31 am
Shop my brother goes to in Va said they have no idea when they will have the Founders bombers and made it sound like it wouldn't be in a day or two.  Not what i expected to hear.   :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 02, 2011, 11:21:08 am
CBS it is not but a growler of DC Braus Penn Quarter Porter is just what the doctor ordered for these colder, darker days - and at $10 the price is right
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 02, 2011, 11:33:08 pm
Southern Tier:

Went out on a mission to find one of their beers to sample. Found a store that carried 3 varieties, though none of the ones that I was hoping for. They carried Imperial Big Red Ale (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_bigred.html), Imperial Iniquity (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_iniquity.html) and  Imperial Farmer's Tan Pale Lager (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_farmerstan.html).

Ended up buying the Imperial Iniquity (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_iniquity.html). Was very leery about it because I feared that it would be heavy on the hops. As it turned out, I was quite pleased. Very easy for me to stomach and delightful to the palette. Would definitely be happy to drink another one. Nice and dark with none of that disgusting hops taste. Not overly sweet and definitely not bitter either. Would love to try this on tap since beers always seem to taste different that way. Wondering if it would be creamier that way, like a nicely drawn Guinness. Must also add, a surprisingly clean aftertaste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 03, 2011, 08:25:49 am
Nice! That one gets the thumbs up from me too. I know I've had it, but can't remember if it was bottle or draft. Glad you liked it too! Black ipa's are the new black.

Regarding my own Southern Tier weekend experience...Celeste and I started into our 64 oz growler of Mokah on Friday night. Thought we could get through six snifter glasses spread out over three nights. Celeste quit midway through her second glass, leaving me with the rest. There's still some left, and tonight will be the fourth night (wondering how flat it will be, was ok last night).

Hence, my conclusion is that 64 oz of 10.9% abv chocolate/coffee beer is a bit too much. Way too much. I like the intensity and flavor in small doses, but won't be getting a growler of it again. So in some ways, I'm coming around the K8teebug's way of thinking (too intense and overly flavored) in regard to at least that particular beer.

One other note: I sampled a taste of Dogfish Punkin Saturday, and decided that may be my favorite pumpkin beer. I found it more spicy than sweet, which I decided I prefer. To me, Pumking and Schlafley's are maybe a bit too sweet, Smuttynose and Post Road a bit too muted, and Dogfish Punkin, as close to good as a pumpkin beer is going to get. Still rather have a nice hoppy ipa or American style barleywine!




Quote from: Jaguar on October 02, 2011, 11:33:08 pm
Southern Tier:

Went out on a mission to find one of their beers to sample. Found a store that carried 3 varieties, though none of the ones that I was hoping for. They carried Imperial Big Red Ale (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_bigred.html), Imperial Iniquity (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_iniquity.html) and  Imperial Farmer's Tan Pale Lager (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_farmerstan.html).

Ended up buying the Imperial Iniquity (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_iniquity.html). Was very leery about it because I feared that it would be heavy on the hops. As it turned out, I was quite pleased. Very easy for me to stomach and delightful to the palette. Would definitely be happy to drink another one. Nice and dark with none of that disgusting hops taste. Not overly sweet and definitely not bitter either. Would love to try this on tap since beers always seem to taste different that way. Wondering if it would be creamier that way, like a nicely drawn Guinness. Must also add, a surprisingly clean aftertaste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 03, 2011, 09:20:37 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 03, 2011, 08:25:49 am
I sampled a taste of Dogfish Punkin Saturday, and decided that may be my favorite pumpkin beer. I found it more spicy than sweet, which I decided I prefer. To me, Pumking and Schlafley's are maybe a bit too sweet, Smuttynose and Post Road a bit too muted, and Dogfish Punkin, as close to good as a pumpkin beer is going to get. Still rather have a nice hoppy ipa or American style barleywine!


Me, too.  I had the first of my 2 Pumking bottles Friday night and decided that while the beer is good, it isn't for me.  Hell, I don't even like pumpkin pie.

I was at Perfect Pour Saturday night and inquired about getting a spice beer but they were unable to recommend one that I felt comfortable buying.  The guy helping then asked if I liked hoppy stuff and that's that was the end of my search for spicy beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 03, 2011, 01:52:21 pm
I sampled the Flying Dog pumpkin beer at Victoria Gastropub this weekend and it was delicious.  Also had the Southern Tier Harvest which was also good!  A crisp hoppy flavor, and very drinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 03, 2011, 04:32:58 pm
Churchkey tapping a keg of CBS and other Founders goodies tomorrow
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on October 04, 2011, 11:26:09 am
Anyone had any luck finding CBS bottles yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2011, 11:33:56 am
Schneiders of Cap Hill and P Street Whole Foods both DON'T and WON'T have it

Ricks has cut off their waiting list


Quote from: fatskippy on October 04, 2011, 11:26:09 am
Anyone had any luck finding CBS bottles yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 04, 2011, 12:27:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 03, 2011, 08:25:49 am
Nice! That one gets the thumbs up from me too. I know I've had it, but can't remember if it was bottle or draft. Glad you liked it too! Black ipa's are the new black.

Regarding my own Southern Tier weekend experience...Celeste and I started into our 64 oz growler of Mokah on Friday night. Thought we could get through six snifter glasses spread out over three nights. Celeste quit midway through her second glass, leaving me with the rest. There's still some left, and tonight will be the fourth night (wondering how flat it will be, was ok last night).

Hence, my conclusion is that 64 oz of 10.9% abv chocolate/coffee beer is a bit too much. Way too much. I like the intensity and flavor in small doses, but won't be getting a growler of it again. So in some ways, I'm coming around the K8teebug's way of thinking (too intense and overly flavored) in regard to at least that particular beer.

One other note: I sampled a taste of Dogfish Punkin Saturday, and decided that may be my favorite pumpkin beer. I found it more spicy than sweet, which I decided I prefer. To me, Pumking and Schlafley's are maybe a bit too sweet, Smuttynose and Post Road a bit too muted, and Dogfish Punkin, as close to good as a pumpkin beer is going to get. Still rather have a nice hoppy ipa or American style barleywine!




Quote from: Jaguar on October 02, 2011, 11:33:08 pm
Southern Tier:

Went out on a mission to find one of their beers to sample. Found a store that carried 3 varieties, though none of the ones that I was hoping for. They carried Imperial Big Red Ale (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_bigred.html), Imperial Iniquity (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_iniquity.html) and  Imperial Farmer's Tan Pale Lager (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_farmerstan.html).

Ended up buying the Imperial Iniquity (http://southerntierbrewing.com/for%20download%20page/downloads_iniquity.html). Was very leery about it because I feared that it would be heavy on the hops. As it turned out, I was quite pleased. Very easy for me to stomach and delightful to the palette. Would definitely be happy to drink another one. Nice and dark with none of that disgusting hops taste. Not overly sweet and definitely not bitter either. Would love to try this on tap since beers always seem to taste different that way. Wondering if it would be creamier that way, like a nicely drawn Guinness. Must also add, a surprisingly clean aftertaste.

Jag - As recommended by James (and I certainly concur with the recommendation), a keg of Bells Double Cream Stout hase arrived at ChurchKey, which means bottles should start showing up in various retailers.. well, none in Maryland.  It's beyond delicious, keep an eye out for it.

James - Completely agree about DFH Punkin being the best of the pumpkin beers.  I agree they made it spicier than most pumpkin beers (allspice, nutmeg i guess..and of course the hops), but still maintained the mainstay pumpkin beer attributes/sweetness that comes from the pumpkins and cinnamon.  I served it (well, I didn't actually serve it, the bartender did) at my wedding two years ago and it was a big hit with everyone who gave it a shot.

This is my favorite time of year for beer, with all the stouts from Bells/Founders making their way out, so my wife and I usually go on a pumpkin beer binge to kick it off.  Nothing surpassed DFH punkin for me.  Last year i first tried Heavy Seas Greater Pumpkin (same as Great Pumpkin, but aged in Bourbon barrels) and it was probably second best for me, haven't seen it this year in bottles (on draft at churchkey right now) or even had it, but I remember it balancing a whole lot of flavors well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 04, 2011, 12:31:46 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 03, 2011, 09:20:37 am


I was at Perfect Pour Saturday night and inquired about getting a spice beer but they were unable to recommend one that I felt comfortable buying.  The guy helping then asked if I liked hoppy stuff and that's that was the end of my search for spicy beer.

You were on the search for the Stone 15.  Please tell us you bought the giant 3 liter bottle  (or however big it was) of it that they had at Perfect Pour while you were there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 04, 2011, 01:05:14 pm
No but I did stare at it for about 10 minutes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2011, 01:14:52 pm
What is it with the prices on the three liter bottles? Three liters is about 104 ozs, right? (750 ml Belgian size bomber=26 oz)

I once inquired about the cost of one (it was some sort of Belgian Xmas beer, can't remember what), ans was given a $100 price tag (the 750 ml was $10 or so).

Were they (Whole Foods in this case) trying to sucker somebody or are you paying for a souvenir three liter sized bottle itself?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 04, 2011, 02:05:39 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on October 04, 2011, 11:26:09 am
Anyone had any luck finding CBS bottles yet?

I am going to Corridor this afternoon and will check for you.

They do have the Flying Dog Fear Imperial Pumpkin there which may have beat out all other pumpkin beers for me this weekend.  They are not going to get this beer at Perfect Pour.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 04, 2011, 02:16:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 04, 2011, 01:14:52 pm
What is it with the prices on the three liter bottles?


I want to say that bottle was in the $100 range.  A little less, IIRC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 04, 2011, 02:17:17 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on October 04, 2011, 02:05:39 pm
I am going to Corridor this afternoon and will check for you.

Founders isn't sold in MD.  Unless that changed very recently.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 04, 2011, 02:39:49 pm
I'm not sure any/many of this is gonna get to DC

Quote from: James Ford on October 04, 2011, 11:33:56 am
Schneiders of Cap Hill and P Street Whole Foods both DON'T and WON'T have it

Ricks has cut off their waiting list


Quote from: fatskippy on October 04, 2011, 11:26:09 am
Anyone had any luck finding CBS bottles yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 04, 2011, 02:43:30 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 04, 2011, 02:17:17 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on October 04, 2011, 02:05:39 pm
I am going to Corridor this afternoon and will check for you.

Founders isn't sold in MD.  Unless that changed very recently.

Well, my investigation will be a short one then  :)

Too bad, that beer sounds awesome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2011, 03:58:44 pm
If you're in VA, try calling your local Total Wine and ask them when they're getting theirs.

The one I called said they are getting a 12 bottle delivery tomorrow morning.


Quote from: brennser on October 04, 2011, 02:39:49 pm
I'm not sure any/many of this is gonna get to DC

Quote from: James Ford on October 04, 2011, 11:33:56 am
Schneiders of Cap Hill and P Street Whole Foods both DON'T and WON'T have it

Ricks has cut off their waiting list


Quote from: fatskippy on October 04, 2011, 11:26:09 am
Anyone had any luck finding CBS bottles yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 04, 2011, 04:21:32 pm
total wine

chantilly - got a case yesterday.  gone.  no more.

manassas - not got yet.  doesn't look like until next week.

just found a secret spot near where i live, that will give me the info later this week.  it's good to be local.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2011, 04:58:00 pm
you folks getting all excited about CBS... pshaw.  now THIS is a rare beer:

White House brewing its own beer
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/16/earlyshow/main20107292.shtml

(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/white-house-honey-ale.jpeg)

more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/02/a-white-house-brewery-white-house-honey-ale/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 04, 2011, 05:03:48 pm
if it comes from the white house . . . it will suck at what it does.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2011, 11:27:37 pm
Thanks to Brennser for the Churchkey CBS tip. And thanks to my wife for grabbing the second to last bottle at Springfield WF. Great to live less than a mile away from a suburban WF with a work at home wife!

Springfield Total Wine scheduled to get 12 bottles tomorrow morning. First come first served, one bottle limit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 05, 2011, 08:05:20 am
New Hampshire likes beer  (http://mycityway.com/blog/2011/10/04/raise-your-glass-to-the-five-best-beer-cities-in-the-world/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 05, 2011, 09:57:31 am
I'm giving up on CBS.  Especially since I have to rely on my brother to get it for me.

I did, however, have my first bottle on Stone 15 last night.  Really enjoyed it.  High octane at ~10% but it doesn't come across that way at all.  Really wish it came in 6 packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 05, 2011, 10:45:16 am
Quote from: Shemp on October 05, 2011, 08:05:20 am
New Hampshire likes beer  (http://mycityway.com/blog/2011/10/04/raise-your-glass-to-the-five-best-beer-cities-in-the-world/)

and apparently maryland doesn't?!?  those numbers must have been collected before i moved to MD, i'm sure i'm pushing up the state average.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 05, 2011, 11:52:30 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 04, 2011, 11:27:37 pm
Thanks to Brennser for the Churchkey CBS tip. And thanks to my wife for grabbing the second to last bottle at Springfield WF. Great to live less than a mile away from a suburban WF with a work at home wife!

Springfield Total Wine scheduled to get 12 bottles tomorrow morning. First come first served, one bottle limit.
so given that I hooked you up with the Churchkey info you're gonna invite me over to share that bottle, right.....right??  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 05, 2011, 12:04:46 pm
Taking the Belgian beer experience to new heights, Stella Artois has commenced its 15th annual World Draught Masters competition that asks consumers to demonstrate mastery of the iconic Stella Artois 9-Step Pouring Ritual. Six major U.S. cities are currently holding regional competitions where beer enthusiasts are trained in the 9-Step Pouring Ritual, then showcase their command of the process.
Doors open at 9 p.m this Friday at the National Building Museum. So go drink complimentary Stella Artois to your heart's content! All you have to do is RSVP to Championships@DraughtMasterUSA.com

(http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Stella-Artois-US-Championships-Invite2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 05, 2011, 03:40:23 pm
i still might have a lock for some cbs, depending on the amount the place gets and how much i'm allowed to buy . . . if i get extras, perhaps i can finally crawl out of the boonies and meet some forum folk.  like the ubersexxy james ford!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 05, 2011, 08:43:50 pm
Is there a reciprocal thing where Budweiser will be offering the same thing to six Belgian cities?


Quote from: sweetcell on October 05, 2011, 12:04:46 pm
Taking the Belgian beer experience to new heights, Stella Artois has commenced its 15th annual World Draught Masters competition that asks consumers to demonstrate mastery of the iconic Stella Artois 9-Step Pouring Ritual. Six major U.S. cities are currently holding regional competitions where beer enthusiasts are trained in the 9-Step Pouring Ritual, then showcase their command of the process.
Doors open at 9 p.m this Friday at the National Building Museum. So go drink complimentary Stella Artois to your heart's content! All you have to do is RSVP to Championships@DraughtMasterUSA.com

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 06, 2011, 04:38:38 pm
CBS  is flowing at pizzeria Paradiso dupont. Stop on by!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 07, 2011, 10:14:08 pm
http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2011/10/founders_brewing_cos_ceo_addre.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 07, 2011, 10:21:53 pm
Tonite it was Firestone's Double Jack Double IPA.  Not bad at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on October 09, 2011, 04:58:24 am
Finally had a Fat Tire on draft recently and was pretty disappointed. A friend of mine originally from Seattle brought back some bottled Fat Tire years ago, and I had very pleasant memories of it. Not sure if my palate has changed or if Fat Tire has changed. Probably a bit of both.

The Old Stein Inn (Edgewater, MD) reopened in late August, and I want twice in September. Great assortment of German beers. The food isn't quite as good as before the New Year's Eve fire which shut them down for 8+ months (new chef, I suspect), but it's still damn good. As for their beers, I'm a big fan of the Franziskanner, Ayinger, and Erdinger breweries. I usually finish the meal off with Lindeman's Framboise Lambic.

http://www.oldstein-inn.com/menu.php?page=bier&item=draught
http://www.oldstein-inn.com/menu.php?page=bier&item=bottle
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 11, 2011, 12:14:21 pm
Boo!

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2011/10/11/theres-a-tear-in-my-beer-no-more-growlers-at-dvines-and-de-vinos/#more-48248
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 12, 2011, 06:51:57 pm
recent purchases, mainly sixers of singles and some four packs

1.  founders - breakfast stout four pack  (whoa . . . damn . . . now that a man's beer!)
2.  abita - harvest wit (refreshing and light nice)
3.  boulder beer - mojo risin'  (double ipa) (double pucker and killer after taste)
4.  dominion - octoberfest (decent enough)
5.  new castle - winter ipa (crap . . . these new castle variations all taste the same)
6.  widmer brothers - okto festival ale (good for never heard of before)
7.  ayinger - brau weiss four pack (not as good as ocktoberfest)
8.  Orion tall bottles  (it is funny . . . in Japan, this is considered the worst, but i love it)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 12, 2011, 07:21:11 pm
Tonight:

Three Floyds Alpha King...brought to us by the Indiana in-laws
Dieu de Ciel's Peche Mortel...brought home from trip to Montreal

Tomorrow:

Alesmith IPA...brought home from West Coast trip
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 12, 2011, 07:46:42 pm
Tried a bottle of Clutch beer last week. It was okay. Pretty much agree with others on here. First off, it easily passed my stomach test. It's the taste that, to me, was only so so. Definitely an acquired taste due to both the sour side and that heavy burnt carbon taste.

Drank a Young's Double Chocolate Stout a couple nights ago. That was nice though I think I'd prefer it with a tad bit of sweetness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 12, 2011, 07:51:26 pm
Sitting in the refrigerator:

Southern Tier's Krampus Imperial Helles Lager
Abita Purple Haze
Banana Bread Beer

Plan to try one later though don't know yet which one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 13, 2011, 09:45:16 am
Quote from: Jaguar on October 12, 2011, 07:46:42 pm

Drank a Young's Double Chocolate Stout a couple nights ago. That was nice though I think I'd prefer it with a tad bit of sweetness.

I had a Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti (Imperial Stout) from Great Divide last night.  Well, I had half of a glass until our puppy decided she wanted to knock it over.

It had the sweetness that you were probably looking for.  It was a little much for me, as it covered up a lot of the roasty flavors/smells I like in big stouts.  I usually fall back to comparing everything to dogfish head beers, and in this regard it was Palo Santo Marron, but with a bit less coffee taste and a decent amount more caramel sweetness.  All in all, a very good beer, but at $9 a bottle (Perfect Pour) the Stone 15th is much more up my alley.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 13, 2011, 11:23:55 am
Quote from: imbecile on October 13, 2011, 09:45:16 am
I had a Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti (Imperial Stout) from Great Divide last night.  Well, I had half of a glass until our puppy decided she wanted to knock it over.

That sounds good and I'll keep it in mind if I see it around. I get what you say about it hiding the other flavors. Don't really want those hidden either. Then again, won't know until I try one.

Sorry about the half loss. Reminds me of a story that my mother told me. There was some guy who lived here who had a dog that died of cirrhosis of the liver. Every night, the two of them would sit around drinking their six packs. This dog loved beer! Drank a six pack every night.

Had the Abita Purple Haze last night. Loved the color. The beer was nice too and easy to drink. A nice choice for when I want a more traditional and lighter tasting beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 13, 2011, 11:50:55 am
Quote from: Jaguar on September 22, 2011, 10:07:54 am
I prefer a thick creamy and sweet stout when going dark. Which would you suggest? I've had a few others but tend to go back to Guinness providing it's on draft. The cans and bottles are barely even worth cooking with. Shame they can't properly preserve that quality in a packaged good.

jag - get thee to bell's special double cream stout.  VERY smooth and creamy, low on the smoke/burnt flavors.  i question their claim (http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/#Seasonal-5) that it doesn't contain any actual cream ;D  

i'm not the biggest fans of stouts, but this one gets a thumbs up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 13, 2011, 11:57:37 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 13, 2011, 11:50:55 am
Quote from: Jaguar on September 22, 2011, 10:07:54 am
I prefer a thick creamy and sweet stout when going dark. Which would you suggest? I've had a few others but tend to go back to Guinness providing it's on draft. The cans and bottles are barely even worth cooking with. Shame they can't properly preserve that quality in a packaged good.

jag - get thee to bell's special double cream stout.  VERY smooth and creamy, low on the smoke/burnt flavors.  i question their claim (http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/#Seasonal-5) that it doesn't contain any actual cream ;D  

i'm not the biggest fans of stouts, but this one gets a thumbs up.

Will do, if I can find one. I need to get up to Delaware at some point and suspect I might have a better chance of finding some of the harder to find selections there.

Actually, I don't mind the smokey flavors at all. It was just that the Clutch beer taste liked it was brewed with excessive burnt scrapings from an old and well used oven. You know, the real kind of 'cake' that Maria Antoinette was talking about when she spoke her infamous quote. In fact, I think that Clutch beer should be the official beer of the OWS movement. Let them drink cake on the Prison Planet!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 13, 2011, 04:44:51 pm
anything involving clutch . . . is doomed to be horrible.  it's ok to admit this.  have a allagash white, like i am, and relax in the thought of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 14, 2011, 12:12:04 pm
Picking up my second bottle of Founders CBS this weekend, to cellar next to the seven bottles of 2011 KBS we still have. Hope they get better with age(?) Also hoping to pick up a four pack of Goose Island Bourbon County Stout when I'm in Chicago next month. Much to my wife's dismay. We're going to have to actually start drinking this stuff at some point.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2011, 12:27:01 pm
care to share where you've getting the CBS from?  (either here, or a PM would be fine ;D)

i've never tried it yet, and what with all the hype i'm quite curious.

anyone else have a lead on the stuff?  is it even available in MD?  i'm in VA for work quite often these days, so i'm hopefully this increased reach will help me score some.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on October 14, 2011, 12:29:03 pm
Beer tasting party at the Ford's???

Quote from: James Ford on October 14, 2011, 12:12:04 pm
We're going to have to actually start drinking this stuff at some point.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 14, 2011, 01:01:53 pm
We have had a beer tasting party the last two Octobers where everyone (including us) brought their favorite craft beers and we provided food and sample size cups. Just too busy to do it this year, with marathons, work, kid issues, travel, etc. Maybe in the Spring.

One result was that we found that a number of people tended to opt for quantity over quality (even though we said don't bring any more than you yourself would drink), leaving us with a fridge full of mediocre beer. Not that that's a horrible thing.  ;D

And for the record, I just read it's better to drink the CBS fresh, as otherwise it will lose its maple flavor, and end up tasting like aged KBS. Not that that's a horrible thing.

Quote from: nkotb on October 14, 2011, 12:29:03 pm
Beer tasting party at the Ford's???

Quote from: James Ford on October 14, 2011, 12:12:04 pm
We're going to have to actually start drinking this stuff at some point.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 14, 2011, 01:09:27 pm
Rhett, I think beers need to be consumed early on unlike most wines and liquors. I know I've had some nasty beers due to my habit of purchasing and then letting the stuff sit around too long. Of course, I've had some very pleasant surprises by doing this with some of my wines and liquors. Totally took the edge off a nice bottle of good rum I bought many years ago in Barbados. Finally opened it the other week and that stuff has mellowed to an incredible degree with no loss of any of the goodness. Very different than how it tasted in Barbados. Beer is more like good fresh produce. Consume it while it's fresh and before it turns on you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 14, 2011, 01:33:30 pm
Actually, not true.

Wine is not the only drink that can be aged for maturation. Many beers benefit from extended aging. We're not talking about your average beer with a mere shelf life of 3-6 months, tops -- before quality begins to degrade. We're talking about beers that beg for maturation and strict storage like vintage beers, barleywines, imperial stouts, Belgian strong ales, lambics, old ales and so on. Ideally, any type of beer that can be laid-down for a year or two, or even more, in order to build a slew of complexities and thus further its character in a positive way.....



....Cool. Now that you have an idea as to what to cellar and how, what can you expect a year or more down the road when you've patiently waiting to crack open your aging beers? The answer = who knows? There are way too many variables that come to play, on top of the variations within the different styles. Some beers age very well, others don't. Some beers need only a year, while others can age for 25+ years. And, many breweries have no idea what their beer will taste like years down the road, while others can make pretty damn good predictions. It's all part of the fun. Full article at...
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/101/store


Quote from: Jaguar on October 14, 2011, 01:09:27 pm
Rhett, I think beers need to be consumed early on unlike most wines and liquors. I know I've had some nasty beers due to my habit of purchasing and then letting the stuff sit around too long. Of course, I've had some very pleasant surprises by doing this with some of my wines and liquors. Totally took the edge off a nice bottle of good rum I bought many years ago in Barbados. Finally opened it the other week and that stuff has mellowed to an incredible degree with no loss of any of the goodness. Very different than how it tasted in Barbados. Beer is more like good fresh produce. Consume it while it's fresh and before it turns on you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 14, 2011, 02:01:14 pm
Interesting. Thanks for posting that. My 'aged' ones have never turned out well. In fact, a couple years ago I had some sort of Rogue Juniper (http://www.rogue.com/beers/juniper-pale-ale.php) beer that I let sit around for about a year that literally made me kind of sick. In this case, it wasn't the hops. Seemed to have something to do with some of the natural ingredients going bad over time more than anything.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 14, 2011, 02:23:28 pm
Best bets for aging beers are those that are bottle conditioned, that is, a bit of yeast is added to the bottle to finish off the fermentation process.  I have a couple bottles of Allagash Curieux gathering dust in the basement....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2011, 02:58:54 pm
i have 10 bottles (out of the original 12) of dominion's millenium barleywine gathering dust in the basement, i'm going to give them at least a year.  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/402/18965
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 14, 2011, 03:49:06 pm
Yeah, that one definitely would not work. Not with only 5.3abv.

Generally, I wouldn't cellar anything under 8.0abv, nor would I cellar any kind of ipa.

And my "cellar" is really just my finished basement. And it's only a few degrees colder than the upstairs, which means it's not nearly in the 45-55 degree cellaring range, especially in the summer. So maybe I shouldn't be "cellaring" at all in my house.

Quote from: Jaguar on October 14, 2011, 02:01:14 pm
Interesting. Thanks for posting that. My 'aged' ones have never turned out well. In fact, a couple years ago I had some sort of Rogue Juniper (http://www.rogue.com/beers/juniper-pale-ale.php) beer that I let sit around for about a year that literally made me kind of sick. In this case, it wasn't the hops. Seemed to have something to do with some of the natural ingredients going bad over time more than anything.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 14, 2011, 04:05:21 pm
With Thanksgiving coming up, thought I'd share this one

http://drinks.seriouseats.com/2009/11/beer-pairings-with-thanksgiving-food-desserts-pies.html

Now I know what to do with my bottle of Abyss.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 14, 2011, 04:22:17 pm
if you read my article i posted about the head of founders . . . he admited that next year, with the new brewery up and producing, all these beers hard to find this season will be everywhere next year.  i just hope that backwoods bastard isn't going to become a fiasco.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 18, 2011, 03:45:54 pm
if anyone is headed down to ashville for Moogfest keep your eyes open for Asheville Brewing Company's Moog Filtered Ale, a small batch re-issued especially for the festival. http://www.moogfoundation.org/tag/moog-filtered-ale/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dave24 on October 18, 2011, 03:59:31 pm
Am looking forward to this in a few weeks...

http://www.3floyds.com/2011/09/14/anniversary-party-announcement/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2011, 04:08:09 pm
Did you move to Indiana? I'll be hitting their brewpub around Thanksgiving. Perfect escape from the in-laws.

Quote from: dave24 on October 18, 2011, 03:59:31 pm
Am looking forward to this in a few weeks...

http://www.3floyds.com/2011/09/14/anniversary-party-announcement/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dave24 on October 18, 2011, 05:12:48 pm
No - but if I did move to Indiana it'd purposely be near their brewpub, even if it is in an industrial POS sort of place.  This represents a sort of Mecca to me, as I've never been there, though I've had many people bring me the beer.  The even sounds awesome, as does any collaboration that includes Three Floyds and Surly...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 19, 2011, 02:30:27 pm
Frisco Grille is going to have 30 pumpkin/Octoberfest beer on tap tonight for those venturing out to the burbs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 19, 2011, 02:42:53 pm
Do they realize that Oktoberfest ended October 3?  ;D

Quote from: K8teebug on October 19, 2011, 02:30:27 pm
Frisco Grille is going to have 30 pumpkin/Octoberfest beer on tap tonight for those venturing out to the burbs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 19, 2011, 02:43:10 pm
I am headed to The Big Hunt tonight to sample, CBS, Backwoods Bastard, Harvest Ale and a few other goodies
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 19, 2011, 03:44:29 pm
Quote from: brennser on October 19, 2011, 02:43:10 pm
I am headed to The Big Hunt tonight to sample, CBS, Backwoods Bastard, Harvest Ale and a few other goodies

can you confirm that they have CBS?  there is a change i will be nearby tonight and just might stop in for a taste...
 
nevermind.  confirmed.  hope they still have some left by the time i make it there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 19, 2011, 04:20:04 pm
I can get there by Friday.  I think.  What are the chances they still have some?

What are the chances I'll be underwhelmed?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 19, 2011, 05:27:21 pm
It will be gone. And you would not be underwhelmed.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 19, 2011, 04:20:04 pm
I can get there by Friday.  I think.  What are the chances they still have some?

What are the chances I'll be underwhelmed?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 19, 2011, 07:49:01 pm
jesus . . . this time next year, they won't even be able to push cbs out the door, because it'll be eveywhere.  with special glasses.  and christmas gift packages with shirts, hats. plus a cartoon show based on the guy on the horse.  and then people will become obsessed with something else. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 19, 2011, 10:33:56 pm
The big hunt was tapped out of CBS by 7:30. Just left the place, so didn't get a taste. Brennser, did you get any?


The quest continues :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 20, 2011, 07:34:44 am
Quote from: walkonby on October 19, 2011, 07:49:01 pm
this time next year, they won't even be able to push cbs out the door, because it'll be everywhere.  and then people will become obsessed with something else. 

Well put.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 20, 2011, 07:54:32 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 19, 2011, 10:33:56 pm
The big hunt was tapped out of CBS by 7:30. Just left the place, so didn't get a taste. Brennser, did you get any?


The quest continues :(
yup - its very good but really so sweet as to not demand a second glass, at least for me

I also had an evolution morning wood and a Founders Harvest Ale

Meridien Pint will be tapping CBS along with a host of other goodies in the not too distant future
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 20, 2011, 08:11:02 am
That's what my friend said when we had it at CK.

Looks like I may get a chance to test that theory, as I have two 26 oz bottles and a wife who has decided it's the six ounces of beer she drinks on netflix nights two nights a week that is preventing her from losing the weight she'd like to lose.

Brennser, how do you convince your wife and kids you need to go to all of these beer events?  ;)

Quote from: brennser on October 20, 2011, 07:54:32 am
yup - its very good but really so sweet as to not demand a second glass, at least for me

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 20, 2011, 08:41:00 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2011, 08:11:02 am
Brennser, how do you convince your wife and kids you need to go to all of these beer events?  ;)

When I worked in Dupont and had an easy schedule I used to grab a beer or two after work almost every day. What with work and family I actually rarely go out drinking these days, maybe twice a month (and it shows in my 20lb weight loss!). The last two CBS related events have been somewhat serendipitous, for the first I had plans to go out anyways so just bailed on work an hour early and went to PP. And for yesterday, I'm a long time Big Hunt regular and always try to make it out when they are tapping special stuff - I was home by 7pm......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 20, 2011, 09:07:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2011, 08:11:02 am
a wife who has decided it's the six ounces of beer she drinks on netflix nights two nights a week that is preventing her from losing the weight she'd like to lose

I seriously doubt it.  But that works out splendidly for you so who'd argue the theory?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 20, 2011, 09:10:10 am
But in an effort to maintain my current weight, I need a co-drinker to drink half!

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 20, 2011, 09:07:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2011, 08:11:02 am
a wife who has decided it's the six ounces of beer she drinks on netflix nights two nights a week that is preventing her from losing the weight she'd like to lose

I seriously doubt it.  But that works out splendidly for you so who'd argue the theory?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 20, 2011, 01:37:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2011, 09:10:10 am
But in an effort to maintain my current weight, I need a co-drinker to drink half!

i'll be working in McLean most of next week, lemme know what night you wanna crack open a CBS.  i'm there for ya.

in other news: livingsocial deal of the day is $20 for a $40 beer tasting class (or $25 for a $60 sushi-making class) http://livingsocial.com/deals/135755
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 20, 2011, 02:28:58 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2011, 09:10:10 am
But in an effort to maintain my current weight, I need a co-drinker to drink half!

I can't imagine you'd have a hard time getting someone to fill in for her.

Or you could run 20 miles every morning and drink to your heart's content.  That's what I'd do  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 21, 2011, 10:37:01 am
Well I think my wife is going to drink the CBS after all. Each 6.5 oz serving is about 150 calories, I would guess. Anybody else who has had it have a food pairing recommendation? I'm thinking it's best just savored as a standalone.

And speaking of pairing, anybody have a beer they like with pasta with red sauce? Or is  wine always best? I'm going to try Ommegang Rare Vos, a fruity/spicy Belgian style amber.

And speaking of food pairing, has anybody had this? Have one from the last batch in my cellar. Really should break it out the next time we make Mexican.

?   New Holland El Mole Ocho: This medium-bodied brown ale is laden with cocoa, coffee and dried chilies to evoke the flavors of a Mexican mole sauce. In the Beermudgeon's opinion, this is one of the great food-pairing beers, especially with spicy food. Who needs Corona or Dos Equis with your enchiladas when you can have this? ABV: 8.4%; $7.99/22 oz.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on October 21, 2011, 10:53:13 am
Washington City Paper - D.C.'s Economies of Ale: Why Is Craft Beer So Expensive in Washington? (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/41653/economies-of-ale/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 21, 2011, 11:00:18 am
Interesting article, read it yesterday. One of the reasons I drink more draft beer on vacation than when I'm around here.  ;)

Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on October 21, 2011, 10:53:13 am
Washington City Paper - D.C.'s Economies of Ale: Why Is Craft Beer So Expensive in Washington? (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/41653/economies-of-ale/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 21, 2011, 12:30:36 pm
Washington Express readers sure don't know their beer lists. The voted ChurchKey, RFD (yuck) and Bar Pilar the three best beer lists in DC. Are they kidding? Here's the Bar Pilar list:

Drafts
Dogfish head 60 min ipa $6
Magic Hat #9 ALE, Vermont $6
Lagunitas Czech Style PILSNER, California $6
New Holland Ichabod Pumpkin Ale $8
Allagash WHITE ALE, Maine $6
Batch 19 pre prohibition lager $6

Bottles
Anderson Valley Boont AMBER ALE, California $6
Unibroue La Fin du Monde BELGIAN STRONG ALE, Quebec (750mL) $26
Viking LAGER, Iceland $5
Yuengling LAGER, Pennsylvania $5
Abita LIGHT ALE, Louisiana $5
Tecate LAGER ?The Clifford?(24oz Can) $8
Lindeman?s FRAMBOISE LAMBIC, Belgium $12
Victory Prima PILSNER, Pennsylvania $5
Woodchuck Dark & Dry CIDER, Vermont $6
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 21, 2011, 12:53:44 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 21, 2011, 12:30:36 pm
Washington Express readers sure don't know their beer lists. The voted ChurchKey, RFD (yuck) and Bar Pilar the three best beer lists in DC. Are they kidding? Here's the Bar Pilar list:

Drafts
Dogfish head 60 min ipa $6
Magic Hat #9 ALE, Vermont $6
Lagunitas Czech Style PILSNER, California $6
New Holland Ichabod Pumpkin Ale $8
Allagash WHITE ALE, Maine $6
Batch 19 pre prohibition lager $6

Bottles
Anderson Valley Boont AMBER ALE, California $6
Unibroue La Fin du Monde BELGIAN STRONG ALE, Quebec (750mL) $26
Viking LAGER, Iceland $5
Yuengling LAGER, Pennsylvania $5
Abita LIGHT ALE, Louisiana $5
Tecate LAGER ?The Clifford?(24oz Can) $8
Lindeman?s FRAMBOISE LAMBIC, Belgium $12
Victory Prima PILSNER, Pennsylvania $5
Woodchuck Dark & Dry CIDER, Vermont $6

i believe that those beers listed on bar pilar's website are only their standard offerings, they have additional seasonals, specialties and one-offs.  they just don't have a webmaster to update the website every time they swap out a non-standard keg for another.

and while the atmosphere at RFD's isn't great, you can't deny they have one of the biggest selections of beer in the city (if not the biggest, since the demise of the Brickskeller).

funny collection of beer/drinking quotes:
http://www.powerhourvx.com/content_powerhourvx_drinking_game_beer_quotes_alcohol_quotes.htm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 21, 2011, 02:25:34 pm
Doesn't the Bier Baron more or less have the same beer list as the Brickskellar did?

And long bottle lists do nothing for me. If I want to drink beer from a bottle, I've probably got 75 different bottles at home I can choose from. For me, it's ALL about the draft list. And RFD's draft list is usually relatively lame compared to ChurchKey or any of the Paradiso's. Sure, they've got some good ones, but they also have crap like Miller Lite, Magic Hat, and Sam Adams lager, and pedestrian stuff like Leffe Blonde, Hoegarden, and Fat Tire. Stuff ChurchKey and Paradiso would never waste a draft line on. Yes, I know that sounds super snobby.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 21, 2011, 12:53:44 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 21, 2011, 12:30:36 pm
and while the atmosphere at RFD's isn't great, you can't deny they have one of the biggest selections of beer in the city (if not the biggest, since the demise of the Brickskeller).

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 21, 2011, 02:27:43 pm
great article

Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on October 21, 2011, 10:53:13 am
Washington City Paper - D.C.'s Economies of Ale: Why Is Craft Beer So Expensive in Washington? (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/41653/economies-of-ale/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 21, 2011, 02:51:50 pm
 (http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/294813_10150855856760038_753400037_21097245_178806359_n.jpg)

Fall Stock
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 21, 2011, 04:11:57 pm
what . . . do you just stay drunk all the time?   ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 21, 2011, 04:19:11 pm
(http://beerstreetjournal.com/images/dogfish-faithfull.jpg)

anybody heard of, or tried, this?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 21, 2011, 04:21:59 pm
http://novabrewfest.com/fall/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 21, 2011, 04:51:59 pm
5 cases = 120 beers.  at a modest 1 beer a day, that's a 4 month's supply - AKA the fall season.  if he is sharing with, say, his wife, we're down to two months.  invite a few friends over for a game or two, and you're down to a month's supply.

Yada: the above calculations prove that you're living on the edge here.  only solution is to stock up on more beer ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 21, 2011, 04:55:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 21, 2011, 04:51:59 pm
5 cases = 120 beers.  at a modest 1 beer a day, that's a 4 month's supply - AKA the fall season.  if he is sharing with, say, his wife, we're down to two months.  invite a few friends over for a game or two, and you're down to a month's supply.

Yada: the above calculations prove that you're living on the edge here.  only solution is to stock up on more beer ;D

Hahahha!!! Very true...

What's great about that stash of beer is that it only cost $123 in PA. If that was purchased in DC, I would've been pushing over $200 for that beer.

Sidenote, that 30 pack of I.C. Light will be floating around my fridge until next summer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 24, 2011, 09:23:31 am
The #1 ipa in the world according to beeradvocate.com (Ballast Point Sculpin), now on tap at Pizza Paradiso, Dupont

http://beeradvocate.com/lists/style/116
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 24, 2011, 12:47:11 pm
Weekend beers split with my wife:

Friday: Ommegang Rare Vos: Belgian Amber Ale that almost worked with my baked ziti i paired it with. Ommegang always delivers!

Friday/Saturday: Founders CBS: Like a perfect one night (two nights in this case) stand that you'd never consider dating on a regular basis.

Saturday: Three Floyds' Alpha King Pale Ale. Sorry, Dale this is the best pale all out there. Nearly three months old, so it had lost some of its hops, but still went very well with my wife's homemade pizza.

Sunday (lunch): Dogfish Burton Baton. It's a hybrid of an imperial ipa and an english style old ale, and at a year old actually might taste better than when consumed fresh. Went very well with cambozola (sp?) cheese and a fresh Whole Foods baguette.

Sunday dinner: 21st Ammendment Hop Crisis- 21st Ammendment is a hit or miss brewery for me, but their double ipa is a hit. Especially with the Indian food I made and served.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 24, 2011, 06:01:17 pm
when beer, the first ammendment, and texas collide:

Jester King Craft Brewery Sues Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission Over Beer and Consumer Freedom
http://jesterkingbrewery.com/jester-king-craft-brewery-sues-texas-alcoholic-beverage-commission-over-beer-and-consumer-freedom
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 25, 2011, 10:33:28 am
My wife went to Belgium without me  :'(

She brought back some stuff - all awesome but most of it I'd already had...except Mort Subite.  She explained the history behind it and how the locals were fairly divided on it.  I thought it was pretty good.  Just a hint of sweet.  Probably the lightest Belgian beer I've ever had (4.5%).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 25, 2011, 10:56:28 am
did she bring back cheese . . . it's all about the cheese over there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 25, 2011, 11:19:10 am
Nope.  And she's all about cheese, so go figure.

Hard to scold her when she brought back beer and a handful of Cuban cigars.  Might have to insist on accompanying her next time around.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 25, 2011, 11:24:31 am
got to try some of this at the weekend - very very good

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/58839
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 25, 2011, 01:21:26 pm
Troeg's Craft Brewery Tasting Dinner - November 3rd

Please join us for a five course dinner served and/or prepared expertly with Troeg's Craft Brewery beer from Harrisburg, PA.

Thursday, November 3, 2011 from 6:30 PM to 10:00 PM (ET)
- 6:30 PM Cocktail Reception
- 7:00 PM Dinner

Beacon Bar and Grill (1615 Rhode Island Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20036)

Menu: https://images.magnetmail.net/images/clients/Beacon/attach/TroegBeerDinnerMenu.pdf
Reserve: http://troegsdinner.eventbrite.com/
$42
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2011, 09:54:02 am
Has anybody been to the new Mellow Mushroom in Adams Morgan and if so any reports on the pint and pitcher beer prices? Looks like their draft list is small but solid. The pizza prices listed online appear to be about 30% higher than the same pizzas in Charlottesville.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 31, 2011, 10:48:36 am
I may have had something this weekend rarer than a Founders CBS - partook of several glasses from a bottle of 1944 Sandemans vintage port - not sure what my expectations were but it was very good

a little off topic I know but seemed a bit much to start a Port Thread  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 31, 2011, 10:49:34 am
Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2011, 10:48:36 am
I may have had something this weekend rarer than a Founders CBS - partook of several glasses from a bottle of 1944 Sandemans vintage port - not sure what my expectations were but it was very good

a little off topic I know but seemed a bit much to start a Port Thread  ;)

vfn!!!!!

(very fucking nice)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 03, 2011, 08:54:51 am
Wow, is every band getting a beer named after them? I'll take this one over Pearl Jam and Clutch, thanks.

(http://pegasusnews.com/media/img/photos/2011/04/08/thumbs/moth1.jpg.728x520_q85.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 03, 2011, 08:58:38 am
After listening to Achtung Baby while I was making dinner, and watch Fast Five on dvd, I decided I needed even more cheese in my life, so opened some brie (and some Theo dark chocolate). What better way to wash it down than with one of these?

Final decision: This one beats Founders CBS (and Backwoods Bastard)

(http://gettingtankedwithfrank.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Founders-KBS.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 03, 2011, 03:05:09 pm
I'd agree
Quote from: James Ford on November 03, 2011, 08:58:38 am
Final decision: This one beats Founders CBS (and Backwoods Bastard)

(http://gettingtankedwithfrank.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Founders-KBS.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 03, 2011, 03:08:59 pm
Today is international stout day. guess we drank that one a day early.
http://www.stoutday.com/

Tonight it's Little Sumpin Sumpin with the salmon salad. No stouts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 03, 2011, 04:06:36 pm
Thought the KBS wasn't available til march
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 03, 2011, 04:09:40 pm
We go through ours slowly. Two (2011) bottles down, six to go.

Quote from: Bagley on November 03, 2011, 04:06:36 pm
Thought the KBS wasn't available til march
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 03, 2011, 04:25:10 pm
I have 5 2011s (out of 12) and 1 2010 left

Quote from: James Ford on November 03, 2011, 04:09:40 pm
We go through ours slowly. Two (2011) bottles down, six to go.

Quote from: Bagley on November 03, 2011, 04:06:36 pm
Thought the KBS wasn't available til march
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 04, 2011, 09:12:48 pm
the motherlode . . . i just stepped into the twilight zone and found the "moutherlode."

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301933_2372558686551_1628062159_2421651_854998347_n.jpg)

founders  cbs

founders  harvest ale

founders  backwoods bastard

stone 15 imperial black ipa

dogfish head  120 minute ipa
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 05, 2011, 09:12:20 am
vfn walkie, vfn!

Did you trade for these or stumble across the one retail outlet in the country that had not sold out of CBS?

The Harvest Ale is amazing btw
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 05, 2011, 10:10:10 am
there was a store way out here in the boonies that had a proud 1 day sale offering of these rare finds to those lucky enough to know about it.  they had tastings and free food and soup.  it was a blast for a country store proving that they can keep up with the big dogs.  and my partner yelled when i told him how much i spent on beer in one day.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 05, 2011, 01:29:29 pm
other recent purchases:

sierra nevada  ovila  dubbel

stoudts  double ipa

ayinger  altbairisch dunkel  (horrible)

rj rockers  bald eagle brown

olde richmond  batch 11  ipa

epic  fest devious

otromundo  red ale

abita christmas ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 05, 2011, 02:01:30 pm
stupid question, i'm sure.  i was only allowed 1 tall bottle of cbs and it was already cold so i had no choice but to keep it cold.  how long do beers that can be kept if you store them correctly, last once they are cold.  i keep wines in my kitchen wine fridge for years and they are ok . . . does the same logic apply to beers, or do they expire quicker in the cold?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 05, 2011, 03:23:20 pm
Not stupid question.

I was in one of the top bottle shops in Portland and there were a number of high abv beers i wanted to bring home on the plane. But they were sitting in a cooler already cold. Guy told me that warming them back up in my suitcase wouldn't harm them. I don't think i've tried any of the ones that were cooled down. So thake that fwiw.




Quote from: walkonby on November 05, 2011, 02:01:30 pm
stupid question, i'm sure.  i was only allowed 1 tall bottle of cbs and it was already cold so i had no choice but to keep it cold.  how long do beers that can be kept if you store them correctly, last once they are cold.  i keep wines in my kitchen wine fridge for years and they are ok . . . does the same logic apply to beers, or do they expire quicker in the cold?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 05, 2011, 03:32:22 pm
i've always been told that with beer . . . once it is cold you have to keep it cold, or it alters the taste and not in a good way.

could not resist trying a founders harvest ale.  good lord.  wow.  amazing.  wet.  a taste like that can come from a bottle?  so fresh and so clean.  must stop myself from having another.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 07, 2011, 10:59:00 am
re: Founders Harvest - drink it now while its still fresh
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 07, 2011, 11:18:37 am
Tip o' the Day.

Letting beer get warm after being cold is completely fine, it's the exposure to sun light that can f' it up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 07, 2011, 01:31:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 07, 2011, 11:18:37 am
Tip o' the Day.

Letting beer get warm after being cold is completely fine, it's the exposure to sun light that can f' it up.

thanks partner!  you are correct . . . but now i am reading that beers should only really be kept three to four months, tops. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 07, 2011, 01:41:48 pm
stouts will hold up longer than that - barleywines too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 07, 2011, 01:49:24 pm
i also remember reading that most stronger beers - say 8% and above - are good candidates for aging.

a while back TJ's had a special on a Unibroue variety 4-pack.  either someone told me, or it is written on the box (will check tonight) that the beers would improve with age.  i have one such pack in the basement, i plan on taste-testing the beers vs. un-aged bottles at some point next year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 07, 2011, 02:18:44 pm
Straight from the Unibroue website, these are the "aging potentials" of the four beers that were in that pack.

Trois Pistoles: 5-8 years
Maudite: 5-8 years
La Fin Du Monde: 3-5 years
Don De Dieu: 2-3 years


I still have three packs left...


Anybody here a member of the Beer Advocate or Ratebeer forums? To date I'm only a lurker. Still, very informative...


Quote from: sweetcell on November 07, 2011, 01:49:24 pm
i also remember reading that most stronger beers - say 8% and above - are good candidates for aging.

a while back TJ's had a special on a Unibroue variety 4-pack.  either someone told me, or it is written on the box (will check tonight) that the beers would improve with age.  i have one such pack in the basement, i plan on taste-testing the beers vs. un-aged bottles at some point next year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 07, 2011, 02:27:36 pm
Yep - BA paid subscriber, website lurker!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 07, 2011, 02:30:37 pm
I have done a few trades on BA - and make the odd post here and there

It is a great resource for learning about beer - the mid atlantic forum is pretty quiet though
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 07, 2011, 02:39:49 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 07, 2011, 02:18:44 pm
Straight from the Unibroue website, these are the "aging potentials" of the four beers that were in that pack.

Trois Pistoles: 5-8 years
Maudite: 5-8 years
La Fin Du Monde: 3-5 years
Don De Dieu: 2-3 years


I still have three packs left...

cool, thanks for looking that up.  and nice stash!

i wonder if the size of the bottle makes a difference.  the taster packs were all 12 oz bottles, but when i think of aging i think larger 750 ml bottles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 07, 2011, 09:57:27 pm
has anyone here tried brewing their own beer?

does anyone know of any particularly good (or at least well-regarded) online resources for home brewing?

i'm tempted to have a go at it.  i picked up a regional brewers' association newspaper last week, it had all sorts of info in there.  need to find myself another copy of it.  depending how well it goes, i could consider growing my own hops next year.

off to go recoup my empties from the recycling bin...

edit: note-to-self links
- American Homebrewers Association - Get Started: link (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/pages/lets-brew/get-schooled/get-started) (grab a free copy of "Zymurgy: An Introduction to Homebrewing")
- many reviewers have stated that "How To Brew" by John Palmer is the best book to start with:  link 1 (http://shop.beertown.org/brewers/product.asp?s_id=0&prod_name=How+To+Brew+by+John+Palmer&pf_id=3100_494&dept_id=3107), link 2 (http://www.amazon.com/How-Brew-Everything-Right-First/dp/0937381888/)
- Information about Homebrewing (How To, Recipes): link (http://stores.mdhb.com/-strse-template/homebreweing/Page.bok)
- The Brewers Association of Maryland: link (http://www.marylandbeer.org/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 10, 2011, 11:07:56 am
This guy should just stick to to food.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCHuqaMkT2c&feature=relmfu


Anyone a fan of Firestone Walker Union Jack? Maybe my favorite non-imperial IPA, even better than Ballast Point Sculpin. Really hope they hang around the DC market.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 10, 2011, 11:44:38 am
james, did you try the DC Brau they had on tap last night?  it's a a pale ale with a surprising amount of hoppiness.  i quite liked it, surprisingly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 10, 2011, 02:11:58 pm
Too much of a crowd crush to try to get to the bar last night. Or maybe i was being picky about drinking beer out of a plastic cup.

They had it on draft at CK the last time i was there. But I just couldn't convince myself to pay the same price for it as i did for the Two Hearted I chose instead.


Quote from: sweetcell on November 10, 2011, 11:44:38 am
james, did you try the DC Brau they had on tap last night?  it's a a pale ale with a surprising amount of hoppiness.  i quite liked it, surprisingly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 10, 2011, 02:15:57 pm
How is this for an amazing draft list? At a middle of nowhere bar 37 miles south of downtown Chicago.

http://www.tribesalehouse.com/beer-list


Allagash Hugh Malone
13oz. Draft    8.5   $7.0   
Allagash White
16oz. Draft    5.5   $6.0   
Anderson Valley 20th Anniversary Imperial IPA
13oz. Draft    8.7   $6.0   
Anderson Valley Winter Solstice
16oz. Draft    6.9   $6.0   
Arcadia Hop Mouth IPA
13oz. Draft    8.1   $6.0   
Bear Republic Apex Imperial IPA
13oz. Draft    7.5   $7.0   
Bear Republic Hop Rod Rye
13oz. Draft    8.0   $5.0   
Bear Republic Mach 10 Imperial IPA
13oz. Draft    8.7   $7.0   
Brooklyn The Companion
9oz. Draft        $7.0   
Clown Shoes Hoppy Feet
13oz. Draft    7.0   $6.0   
Delirium Tremens
13oz. Draft    8.5   $8.5   
Dogfish Head 90 Minute
13oz. Draft    9.0   $7.0   
Firestone Walker Double Jack
13oz. Draft    9.5   $7.0   
Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA
16oz. Draft    7.5   $6.0   
Flying Dog Imperial IPA Centennial Single Hop
9oz. Draft        $7.0   
Founder's Canadian Breakfast Stout
9oz. Draft    9.4   $9.0   
Founders Breakfast Stout
13oz. Draft    8.3   $7.0   
Founders Centennial IPA
16oz. Draft    7.2   $5.0   
Founders Porter
16oz. Draft        $5.0   
Great Divide Fresh Hop Pale Ale
16oz. Draft    6.1   $6.0   
Greenbush Closure (Batch Summit/Willamette)
16oz. Draft        $5.0   
Guinness
20oz. Draft    4.3   $5.5   
Lagunitas Hop Stoopid
13oz. Draft    8.3   $6.0   
Lost Coast Tangerine Wheat
16oz. Draft    5.0   $5.0   
Mikkeller Single Hop Amarillo IPA
9oz. Draft    6.9   $5.0   
Mikkeller Single Hop Centennial IPA
9oz. Draft        $5.0   
New Belgium Belgo IPA
13oz. Draft    7.0   $6.0   
North Coast PranQster
16oz. Draft    7.6   $7.0   
SKA Euphoria
16oz. Draft    6.1   $5.0   
Ska Decadent
9oz. Draft    10.0   $7.0   
Southern Tier Pumking
13oz. Draft    9.0   $8.0   
Stone 15th Anniversary Escondidian Imperial Black IPA
9oz. Draft        $7.0   
Stone Cali-Belgique IPA
13oz. Draft    6.9   $6.0   
Stone Sublimely Self Righteous Ale
13oz. Draft    8.7   $6.0   
Three Floyds Alpha King
16oz. Draft    6.0   $5.0   
Three Floyds Arctic Panzer Wolf
13oz. Draft    9.0   $8.0   
Three Floyds Behemoth Barleywine
9oz. Draft    10.5   $7.0   
Three Floyds Dreadnaught
13oz. Draft    9.5   $8.0   
Three Floyds Gumballhead
16oz. Draft    4.8   $5.0   
Three Floyds Pride & Joy
16oz. Draft    4.88   $5.0   
Three Floyds Robert The Bruce
16oz. Draft    7.2   $5.0   
Three Floyds Zombie Dust
13oz. Draft    6.2   $6.0   
Tyranena Bitter Woman IPA
16oz. Draft    5.8   $5.0   
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 10, 2011, 02:19:22 pm
I brew.  How to brew is the best resource you can use to start.  Theres a home brew store in Falls Church (MLHBS) which is very helpful as well.  You could go in there and walk out with ingredients to start brewing right away. 

http://www.northernbrewer.com/ is a good resource for supplies, they are priced very competitively.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/ is a great forum, every question i've ever had has been answered at some point on this forum.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 07, 2011, 09:57:27 pm
has anyone here tried brewing their own beer?

does anyone know of any particularly good (or at least well-regarded) online resources for home brewing?

i'm tempted to have a go at it.  i picked up a regional brewers' association newspaper last week, it had all sorts of info in there.  need to find myself another copy of it.  depending how well it goes, i could consider growing my own hops next year.

off to go recoup my empties from the recycling bin...

edit: note-to-self links
- American Homebrewers Association - Get Started: link (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/pages/lets-brew/get-schooled/get-started) (grab a free copy of "Zymurgy: An Introduction to Homebrewing")
- many reviewers have stated that "How To Brew" by John Palmer is the best book to start with:  link 1 (http://shop.beertown.org/brewers/product.asp?s_id=0&prod_name=How+To+Brew+by+John+Palmer&pf_id=3100_494&dept_id=3107), link 2 (http://www.amazon.com/How-Brew-Everything-Right-First/dp/0937381888/)
- Information about Homebrewing (How To, Recipes): link (http://stores.mdhb.com/-strse-template/homebreweing/Page.bok)
- The Brewers Association of Maryland: link (http://www.marylandbeer.org/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dave24 on November 14, 2011, 04:43:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 10, 2011, 02:15:57 pm
How is this for an amazing draft list? At a middle of nowhere bar 37 miles south of downtown Chicago.

http://www.tribesalehouse.com/beer-list


Allagash Hugh Malone
13oz. Draft    8.5   $7.0   
Allagash White
16oz. Draft    5.5   $6.0   
Anderson Valley 20th Anniversary Imperial IPA
13oz. Draft    8.7   $6.0   
Anderson Valley Winter Solstice
16oz. Draft    6.9   $6.0   
Arcadia Hop Mouth IPA
13oz. Draft    8.1   $6.0   
Bear Republic Apex Imperial IPA
13oz. Draft    7.5   $7.0   
Bear Republic Hop Rod Rye
13oz. Draft    8.0   $5.0   
Bear Republic Mach 10 Imperial IPA
13oz. Draft    8.7   $7.0   
Brooklyn The Companion
9oz. Draft        $7.0   
Clown Shoes Hoppy Feet
13oz. Draft    7.0   $6.0   
Delirium Tremens
13oz. Draft    8.5   $8.5   
Dogfish Head 90 Minute
13oz. Draft    9.0   $7.0   
Firestone Walker Double Jack
13oz. Draft    9.5   $7.0   
Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA
16oz. Draft    7.5   $6.0   
Flying Dog Imperial IPA Centennial Single Hop
9oz. Draft        $7.0   
Founder's Canadian Breakfast Stout
9oz. Draft    9.4   $9.0   
Founders Breakfast Stout
13oz. Draft    8.3   $7.0   
Founders Centennial IPA
16oz. Draft    7.2   $5.0   
Founders Porter
16oz. Draft        $5.0   
Great Divide Fresh Hop Pale Ale
16oz. Draft    6.1   $6.0   
Greenbush Closure (Batch Summit/Willamette)
16oz. Draft        $5.0   
Guinness
20oz. Draft    4.3   $5.5   
Lagunitas Hop Stoopid
13oz. Draft    8.3   $6.0   
Lost Coast Tangerine Wheat
16oz. Draft    5.0   $5.0   
Mikkeller Single Hop Amarillo IPA
9oz. Draft    6.9   $5.0   
Mikkeller Single Hop Centennial IPA
9oz. Draft        $5.0   
New Belgium Belgo IPA
13oz. Draft    7.0   $6.0   
North Coast PranQster
16oz. Draft    7.6   $7.0   
SKA Euphoria
16oz. Draft    6.1   $5.0   
Ska Decadent
9oz. Draft    10.0   $7.0   
Southern Tier Pumking
13oz. Draft    9.0   $8.0   
Stone 15th Anniversary Escondidian Imperial Black IPA
9oz. Draft        $7.0   
Stone Cali-Belgique IPA
13oz. Draft    6.9   $6.0   
Stone Sublimely Self Righteous Ale
13oz. Draft    8.7   $6.0   
Three Floyds Alpha King
16oz. Draft    6.0   $5.0   
Three Floyds Arctic Panzer Wolf
13oz. Draft    9.0   $8.0   
Three Floyds Behemoth Barleywine
9oz. Draft    10.5   $7.0   
Three Floyds Dreadnaught
13oz. Draft    9.5   $8.0   
Three Floyds Gumballhead
16oz. Draft    4.8   $5.0   
Three Floyds Pride & Joy
16oz. Draft    4.88   $5.0   
Three Floyds Robert The Bruce
16oz. Draft    7.2   $5.0   
Three Floyds Zombie Dust
13oz. Draft    6.2   $6.0   
Tyranena Bitter Woman IPA
16oz. Draft    5.8   $5.0   
 


Anyboday who has Arctic Panzer Wolf and Zombie Dust on their tap list, and is not in an industrial park in Munster, IN is all right by me.  FYI  -15th Anniversary Party this weekend = one ridiculous good time!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 14, 2011, 05:27:33 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 10, 2011, 02:19:22 pm
I brew.  How to brew is the best resource you can use to start.  Theres a home brew store in Falls Church (MLHBS) which is very helpful as well.  You could go in there and walk out with ingredients to start brewing right away. 

http://www.northernbrewer.com/ is a good resource for supplies, they are priced very competitively.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/ is a great forum, every question i've ever had has been answered at some point on this forum.

awesome, thanks for the input.  i will definitely have to swing by MLHBS (might even go tonight).  there is also The Flying Barrel in frederick that i've heard good things about. 

what is you best tip for the newbie?  anything you wish someone told you before you ruined your first batch?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 14, 2011, 05:33:21 pm
can't get into the fat tire beer...don't know what people see in it. to me it tastes like crap but its the rage now...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 14, 2011, 05:48:58 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 14, 2011, 05:33:21 pm
can't get into the fat tire beer...don't know what people see in it. to me it tastes like crap but its the rage now...

i'm with you.  i don't hate it, it's certainly better than the crap that most people drink, but it's nothing to get excited about.  i think its current popularity has to do with its newness and former rarity.  they only started selling it here this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on November 15, 2011, 10:31:40 am
In places where it has been around a while, Fat Tire is the type of beer that's typically sold in gas stations and 7-11's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 10:40:51 am
Fat Tire is on prominent display now at my local CVS in Springfield.

In the large-ish craft brewery category, Sierra Nevada and Deschutes kick New Begium's ass. Hope Deschutes eventually makes it here.

Quote from: fatskippy on November 15, 2011, 10:31:40 am
In places where it has been around a while, Fat Tire is the type of beer that's typically sold in gas stations and 7-11's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 15, 2011, 11:01:11 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 10:40:51 am
Fat Tire is on prominent display now at my local CVS in Springfield.

In the large-ish craft brewery category, Sierra Nevada and Deschutes kick New Begium's ass. Hope Deschutes eventually makes it here.

Quote from: fatskippy on November 15, 2011, 10:31:40 am
In places where it has been around a while, Fat Tire is the type of beer that's typically sold in gas stations and 7-11's.

Fun fact... dated the manager of Deschute's daughter about 9 years ago and she used to ship me cases of Mirror Pond Pale Ale.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 15, 2011, 11:44:36 am
I'll take a Sierra or Dales over Fat Tire any day.. its not even a contest...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 12:29:59 pm
Beer distribution by brewery and state:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap6d1DIcENXqdHgwd3ZNeTJBellDWFpuQTRKR0FiekE&hl=en#gid=0

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on November 15, 2011, 12:31:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 14, 2011, 05:48:58 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 14, 2011, 05:33:21 pm
can't get into the fat tire beer...don't know what people see in it. to me it tastes like crap but its the rage now...

i'm with you.  i don't hate it, it's certainly better than the crap that most people drink, but it's nothing to get excited about.  i think its current popularity has to do with its newness and former rarity.  they only started selling it here this year.

Exactly, it's the Coors effect ... minus Smokey and the Bandit.
http://boingboing.net/2010/11/30/how-the-bandit-coors.html (http://boingboing.net/2010/11/30/how-the-bandit-coors.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 15, 2011, 02:47:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 12:29:59 pm
Beer distribution by brewery and state:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap6d1DIcENXqdHgwd3ZNeTJBellDWFpuQTRKR0FiekE&hl=en#gid=0



Thanks!  This is awesome!  My annual xmas gift from California based relatives is a bunch of bombers that don't ship to Maryland.  Now I know exactly what to ask for :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 15, 2011, 03:06:22 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 12:29:59 pm
Beer distribution by brewery and state:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap6d1DIcENXqdHgwd3ZNeTJBellDWFpuQTRKR0FiekE&hl=en#gid=0


for once, it sucks to live in hawaii. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 15, 2011, 03:40:21 pm
I think I figured out why I don't pay as much attention to this thread as the rest of you.  It's just not hard to get beers out here...

I hosted for the Oregon-Stanford game and all the Oregon folks brought microbrews.  I was left with:

Lagunitas Little Sumpin
21st Amendment Back in Black IPA
Widmer Lemongrass Wheat Ale
Widmer Falconer IPA
Ninkasi something or other....

And that's not even listing what was finished - that's just what was left in my fridge.

I also live a block from this place: Toronado (http://www.toronado.com/index.htm), though they never have the High Life, but plenty of bad moustaches and plaid.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 15, 2011, 03:53:39 pm
Quote from: vansmack on November 15, 2011, 03:40:21 pm
I think I figured out why I don't pay as much attention to this thread as the rest of you.  It's just not hard to get beers out here...

I hosted for the Oregon-Stanford game and all the Oregon folks brought microbrews.  I was left with:

Lagunitas Little Sumpin
21st Amendment Back in Black IPA
Widmer Lemongrass Wheat Ale
Widmer Falconer IPA
Ninkasi something or other....

And that's not even listing what was finished - that's just what was left in my fridge.

I also live a block from this place: Toronado (http://www.toronado.com/index.htm), though they never have the High Life, but plenty of bad moustaches and plaid.



darn dems some nice friends


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 15, 2011, 03:58:58 pm
Quote from: vansmack on November 15, 2011, 03:40:21 pm
I think I figured out why I don't pay as much attention to this thread as the rest of you.  It's just not hard to get beers out here...

I hosted for the Oregon-Stanford game and all the Oregon folks brought microbrews.  I was left with:

Lagunitas Little Sumpin
21st Amendment Back in Black IPA
Widmer Lemongrass Wheat Ale
Widmer Falconer IPA
Ninkasi something or other....

And that's not even listing what was finished - that's just what was left in my fridge.

I also live a block from this place: Toronado (http://www.toronado.com/index.htm), though they never have the High Life, but plenty of bad moustaches and plaid.



Wait, people post on this board that don't live in a close proximity to DC??

**head explodes**

I have to agree though, northern cali and oregon produce some of zeeee best beer ever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 04:20:21 pm
The middle three are all pretty mediocre.  ;)

Quote from: vansmack on November 15, 2011, 03:40:21 pm
I think I figured out why I don't pay as much attention to this thread as the rest of you.  It's just not hard to get beers out here...

I hosted for the Oregon-Stanford game and all the Oregon folks brought microbrews.  I was left with:

Lagunitas Little Sumpin
21st Amendment Back in Black IPA
Widmer Lemongrass Wheat Ale
Widmer Falconer IPA
Ninkasi something or other....

And that's not even listing what was finished - that's just what was left in my fridge.

I also live a block from this place: Toronado (http://www.toronado.com/index.htm), though they never have the High Life, but plenty of bad moustaches and plaid.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 15, 2011, 04:29:11 pm
i know what i want for christmas

(http://store.foundersbrewing.com/shop/images/1003/?440,1000,3,2443769040)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 15, 2011, 04:41:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 04:20:21 pm
The middle three are all pretty mediocre.  ;)

I have no idea - I drank wine...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 15, 2011, 04:44:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 04:20:21 pm
The middle three are all pretty mediocre.  ;)

Quote from: vansmack on November 15, 2011, 03:40:21 pm
I think I figured out why I don't pay as much attention to this thread as the rest of you.  It's just not hard to get beers out here...

I hosted for the Oregon-Stanford game and all the Oregon folks brought microbrews.  I was left with:

Lagunitas Little Sumpin
21st Amendment Back in Black IPA
Widmer Lemongrass Wheat Ale
Widmer Falconer IPA
Ninkasi something or other....

And that's not even listing what was finished - that's just what was left in my fridge.

I also live a block from this place: Toronado (http://www.toronado.com/index.htm), though they never have the High Life, but plenty of bad moustaches and plaid.


what james said.  the beers that get people in a tizzy here - founders, bells, troegs, trappist ales, etc - would still be rare/noteworthy in your little corner of the world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 15, 2011, 04:46:57 pm
had a founders breakfast stout on tap at Iron Horse last night, pretty great, but probably not the best choice after a bunch of budweisers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 15, 2011, 04:58:55 pm
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on November 15, 2011, 04:46:57 pm
had a founders breakfast stout on tap at Iron Horse last night, pretty great, but probably not the best choice after a bunch of budweisers.

That brew is strong as all hell too... A few of those and you're feelin' niiiiiiice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 05:01:16 pm
And we have them beat in sheer numbers (though I'm not going to argue against the quality of California/Oregon beers in general. California=best overall beer producing state, imo.)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap6d1DIcENXqdHgwd3ZNeTJBellDWFpuQTRKR0FiekE&hl=en#gid=0

221 breweries sell in MD
213 in VA
197 in DC
190 in CA


Quote from: sweetcell on November 15, 2011, 04:44:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 04:20:21 pm
The middle three are all pretty mediocre.  ;)

Quote from: vansmack on November 15, 2011, 03:40:21 pm
I think I figured out why I don't pay as much attention to this thread as the rest of you.  It's just not hard to get beers out here...

I hosted for the Oregon-Stanford game and all the Oregon folks brought microbrews.  I was left with:

Lagunitas Little Sumpin
21st Amendment Back in Black IPA
Widmer Lemongrass Wheat Ale
Widmer Falconer IPA
Ninkasi something or other....

And that's not even listing what was finished - that's just what was left in my fridge.

I also live a block from this place: Toronado (http://www.toronado.com/index.htm), though they never have the High Life, but plenty of bad moustaches and plaid.


what james said.  the beers that get people in a tizzy here - founders, bells, troegs, trappist ales, etc - would still be rare/noteworthy in your little corner of the world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2011, 05:02:22 pm
Wimp.  ;) It's only 8.3% abv. Pretty low for an imperial stout.

Quote from: Yada on November 15, 2011, 04:58:55 pm
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on November 15, 2011, 04:46:57 pm
had a founders breakfast stout on tap at Iron Horse last night, pretty great, but probably not the best choice after a bunch of budweisers.

That brew is strong as all hell too... A few of those and you're feelin' niiiiiiice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 15, 2011, 05:13:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 15, 2011, 04:58:55 pm
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on November 15, 2011, 04:46:57 pm
had a founders breakfast stout on tap at Iron Horse last night, pretty great, but probably not the best choice after a bunch of budweisers.

That brew is strong as all hell too... A few of those and you're feelin' niiiiiiice.

well, the founders (along with a few more black and tans) somehow inspired me to later sing a morrissey song at karaoke night at the irish channel, so I agree on the strength.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 15, 2011, 07:15:02 pm
FBS is grreeeeeat! I am really looking forward to the Meridien Pint brunch where they tap FBS, CBS, two years of KBS, Blushing Monk and Backwoods Bastard

I am also digging the Great Lakes Blackout Stout - I stocked up on a case of that and a case of FBS to get me thru the winter  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 10:19:54 am
Anybody know if Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout makes it to the DC area in bottles? I was hoping to pick up some when I'm in Chicago the day after Thanksgiving, but I'm starting to wonder if the release date will be after that day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 16, 2011, 11:17:10 am
Anyone try the 2011 Sierra Nevada Celebration ale yet?  If so, where did you find it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 11:18:04 am
Ommegang: Fracking may force us to leave

COOPERSTOWN -- Brewery Ommegang is warning that it would have to consider relocating if the town of Middlefield's ban on gas drilling is struck down and horizontal gas drilling begins.

The ominous warning is contained in a new legal brief filed in support of Middlefield's recent zoning law.

"If its water were to be contaminated, the Brewery could be forced to move its business elsewhere," the court papers state. "Its Master Brewer and Quality Control chemist agree that even if Brewery Ommegang wished to do so, it could not remove many of the toxic chemicals commonly used in hydrofracking, should they be released into the Brewery's water supply."

continued: http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1267472742/Ommegang-Fracking-may-force-us-to-leave
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 11:24:17 am
I have. As usual, it's good. But not as good as Torpedo (imo).

$7.99/sixer at Total Wine ($6.99 if you get their coupons)
$9.99/sixer at Whole Foods


Quote from: Bagley on November 16, 2011, 11:17:10 am
Anyone try the 2011 Sierra Nevada Celebration ale yet?  If so, where did you find it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 11:26:11 am
Hope they move somewhere closer to a highway. Great tour and tasting room, but getting there's a bitch!

Seriously, would be a shame, as their location is a nice one.

For more on fracking, see the Oscar nominated film "Gasland".



Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 11:18:04 am
Ommegang: Fracking may force us to leave

COOPERSTOWN -- Brewery Ommegang is warning that it would have to consider relocating if the town of Middlefield's ban on gas drilling is struck down and horizontal gas drilling begins.

The ominous warning is contained in a new legal brief filed in support of Middlefield's recent zoning law.

"If its water were to be contaminated, the Brewery could be forced to move its business elsewhere," the court papers state. "Its Master Brewer and Quality Control chemist agree that even if Brewery Ommegang wished to do so, it could not remove many of the toxic chemicals commonly used in hydrofracking, should they be released into the Brewery's water supply."

continued: http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1267472742/Ommegang-Fracking-may-force-us-to-leave
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 16, 2011, 11:39:22 am
So is Hennepin brewed in NY or in Belgium? - I'd swear the labels say brewed in Belgium
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 11:48:59 am
My answer would be Cooperstown, though they are owned by Duvel.

According to wiki :

Don Feinberg sold Ommegang in 2003 to Belgian brewer Brouwerij Duvel Moortgat, brewers of the world-renowned Duvel Golden Ale. As a result, Ommegang Ales are made both in Belgium and in Cooperstown, New York. Duvel Moortgat brewed limited amounts of beer for Brewery Ommegang in 2006 to help meet demand, but has not brewed any since then.




Quote from: brennser on November 16, 2011, 11:39:22 am
So is Hennepin brewed in NY or in Belgium? - I'd swear the labels say brewed in Belgium
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on November 16, 2011, 12:21:40 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 16, 2011, 11:17:10 am
Anyone try the 2011 Sierra Nevada Celebration ale yet?  If so, where did you find it?

The Harris Teeter a few blocks from me (NoMa, if you call the neighborhood that) has a gargantuan display of it ($7.99).  As for Christmas seasonals, it's up there for me.. probably just because they're one of the few who do an IPA and it's done pretty well.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on November 16, 2011, 12:27:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 10:19:54 am
Anybody know if Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout makes it to the DC area in bottles? I was hoping to pick up some when I'm in Chicago the day after Thanksgiving, but I'm starting to wonder if the release date will be after that day.

I ran across it last year on complete accident.  At some little beer/convenience store (name completely escapes me) across the street from DeVinos (18th and U NW).  I was in there a month or so ago and saw a good selection of their beers, but don't recall that one being there.

Google streetview shows the name as "Virginia Market" - no telling how old that image is though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 16, 2011, 12:54:55 pm
Quote from: imbecile on November 16, 2011, 12:27:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 10:19:54 am
Anybody know if Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout makes it to the DC area in bottles? I was hoping to pick up some when I'm in Chicago the day after Thanksgiving, but I'm starting to wonder if the release date will be after that day.

I ran across it last year on complete accident.  At some little beer/convenience store (name completely escapes me) across the street from DeVinos (18th and U NW).  I was in there a month or so ago and saw a good selection of their beers, but don't recall that one being there.

Google streetview shows the name as "Virginia Market" - no telling how old that image is though.

You are correct... it is the Virginia Market. Used to frequent that place daily when I lived in that hood. Early 2010 they basically turned it into a high end beer store... good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 03:17:29 pm
Mid-Atlantic Holiday Beer Festival @ Pratt Street Ale House, Baltimore
Saturday, December 10
Price: $40.00

Come sample some delicious food and sample some extraordinary beers from such local names as Evolution, Victory, Troegs, Stillwater, Flying Dog, The Brewer's Art, and our own Oliver Ales.

http://www.missiontix.com/events/product/13056/mid-atlantic-holiday-beer-festival

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 16, 2011, 03:21:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 03:17:29 pm
Mid-Atlantic Holiday Beer Festival @ Pratt Street Ale House, Baltimore
Saturday, December 10
Price: $40.00

Come sample some delicious food and sample some extraordinary beers from such local names as Evolution, Victory, Troegs, Stillwater, Flying Dog, The Brewer's Art, and our own Oliver Ales.

http://www.missiontix.com/events/product/13056/mid-atlantic-holiday-beer-festival



Anyone offering rides to an fro?  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 16, 2011, 04:22:36 pm
that would be an interesting trip up and back.   ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 04:25:53 pm
Warning: message board cross reference here...from beer advocate message board
Note: AB=Anhesuer Busch
Note#2: Perfect Pour is in Columbia, MD as some here have mentioned


Just talked to one of my bottle shops, (Perfect Pour), they won't be getting any BCBS because distribution is based on how much Honkers Ale and another beer in the Goose line they sold this year.

Since they don't sell enough of these 'qualifying' beers, they don't get any BCBS.

Welcome to AB marketing.



Quote from: imbecile on November 16, 2011, 12:27:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 10:19:54 am
Anybody know if Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout makes it to the DC area in bottles? I was hoping to pick up some when I'm in Chicago the day after Thanksgiving, but I'm starting to wonder if the release date will be after that day.

I ran across it last year on complete accident.  At some little beer/convenience store (name completely escapes me) across the street from DeVinos (18th and U NW).  I was in there a month or so ago and saw a good selection of their beers, but don't recall that one being there.

Google streetview shows the name as "Virginia Market" - no telling how old that image is though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 04:43:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on November 16, 2011, 04:22:36 pm
that would be an interesting trip up and back.   ;D

i'd be mostly concerned with the trip back...

would make for a fun road trip tho.  anyone have a spouse/partner/SO/etc willing to babysit a few beer-drench boardees? or at least give them a ride home?  ;D

alternately, could consider taking a bus.  the place is right downtown, on the harbor - there must be greyhound buses that would work, right?  from my neck of the woods, there is an express bus from shady grove to BWI.  from there, take light rail into the city.  slightly faster for me than going to downtown DC and grabbing a bus at union station.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2011, 04:46:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 04:43:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on November 16, 2011, 04:22:36 pm
that would be an interesting trip up and back.   ;D

i'd be mostly concerned with the trip back...

would make for a fun road trip tho.  anyone have a spouse/partner/SO/etc willing to babysit a few beer-drench boardees? or at least give them a ride home?  ;D

alternately, could consider taking a bus.  the place is right downtown, on the harbor - there must be greyhound buses that would work, right?  from my neck of the woods, there is an express bus from shady grove to BWI.  from there, take light rail into the city.  slightly faster for me than going to downtown DC and grabbing a bus at union station.

man thats some dedication...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 16, 2011, 04:49:06 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 16, 2011, 04:46:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 04:43:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on November 16, 2011, 04:22:36 pm
that would be an interesting trip up and back.   ;D

i'd be mostly concerned with the trip back...

would make for a fun road trip tho.  anyone have a spouse/partner/SO/etc willing to babysit a few beer-drench boardees? or at least give them a ride home?  ;D

alternately, could consider taking a bus.  the place is right downtown, on the harbor - there must be greyhound buses that would work, right?  from my neck of the woods, there is an express bus from shady grove to BWI.  from there, take light rail into the city.  slightly faster for me than going to downtown DC and grabbing a bus at union station.

man thats some dedication...

hahaha, seriously.... Sounds fun, but shit... that's quite the f'n trek. However, someone wanting to line up transport to and fro for $50, I'm in!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 04:58:48 pm
For only $10 more the Founders brunch at Meridian is a slam dunk compared to that one.


Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 04:43:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on November 16, 2011, 04:22:36 pm
that would be an interesting trip up and back.   ;D

i'd be mostly concerned with the trip back...

would make for a fun road trip tho.  anyone have a spouse/partner/SO/etc willing to babysit a few beer-drench boardees? or at least give them a ride home?  ;D

alternately, could consider taking a bus.  the place is right downtown, on the harbor - there must be greyhound buses that would work, right?  from my neck of the woods, there is an express bus from shady grove to BWI.  from there, take light rail into the city.  slightly faster for me than going to downtown DC and grabbing a bus at union station.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 16, 2011, 05:08:53 pm
isn't that sold out?

nevermind . . . got confused with their breakfast stout breakfast thing, founders is doing somewhere.  i hate that i am this obsessed with a product.  founders is the steve job's apple of beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 16, 2011, 05:13:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 04:58:48 pm
For only $10 more the Founders brunch at Meridian is a slam dunk compared to that one.


Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 04:43:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on November 16, 2011, 04:22:36 pm
that would be an interesting trip up and back.   ;D

i'd be mostly concerned with the trip back...

would make for a fun road trip tho.  anyone have a spouse/partner/SO/etc willing to babysit a few beer-drench boardees? or at least give them a ride home?  ;D

alternately, could consider taking a bus.  the place is right downtown, on the harbor - there must be greyhound buses that would work, right?  from my neck of the woods, there is an express bus from shady grove to BWI.  from there, take light rail into the city.  slightly faster for me than going to downtown DC and grabbing a bus at union station.

I find these beer pairing dining events in the city to be quite shitty... not enough food and warm beer.

In other over priced and over indulgence news, did anyone go to the Vices of Virginia two weekends ago? Hands down one of the best events I've ever attended that involves gluttony.

http://arcadiafood.org/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 05:19:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 04:58:48 pm
For only $10 more the Founders brunch at Meridian is a slam dunk compared to that one.

this is the first i've heard of this brunch - why didn't you tell us about it before?!?
http://dcbeer.com/2011/11/15/meridian-pint-hosts-founders-beer-brunch/

the founders brunch is actually $25 more - there is an obligatory $10 gratuity and $5 tax, so $65 total.

i'm running a 15 km that morning... this might be the perfect recoup meal ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 16, 2011, 05:24:24 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 05:19:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 04:58:48 pm
For only $10 more the Founders brunch at Meridian is a slam dunk compared to that one.

this is the first i've heard of this brunch - why didn't you tell us about it before?!?
http://dcbeer.com/2011/11/15/meridian-pint-hosts-founders-beer-brunch/

the founders brunch is actually $25 more - there is an obligatory $10 gratuity and $5 tax, so $65 total.

i'm running a 15 km that morning... this might be the perfect recoup meal ;D

You running the hot chocolate race?? Pretty sure I'm doing the same...but 5k, I'm a wuss.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 06:56:46 pm
factor in the processing fees and those tickets are more then $40.

A processing fee will be applied at the end of checkout


Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 05:19:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 04:58:48 pm
For only $10 more the Founders brunch at Meridian is a slam dunk compared to that one.

this is the first i've heard of this brunch - why didn't you tell us about it before?!?
http://dcbeer.com/2011/11/15/meridian-pint-hosts-founders-beer-brunch/

the founders brunch is actually $25 more - there is an obligatory $10 gratuity and $5 tax, so $65 total.

i'm running a 15 km that morning... this might be the perfect recoup meal ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 07:04:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 06:56:46 pm
factor in the processing fees and those tickets are more then $40.

A processing fee will be applied at the end of checkout

processing fee is $4.50, so in the end the founders brunch is $20 more than the b'more thingy.  definitely worth it if only because of the proximity.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 07:15:03 pm
Definitely worth it because the Founders beers listed are outstanding.

There will be some good beers at that Baltimore thing, but nothing outstanding, imo.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 07:04:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 06:56:46 pm
factor in the processing fees and those tickets are more then $40.

A processing fee will be applied at the end of checkout

processing fee is $4.50, so in the end the founders brunch is $20 more than the b'more thingy.  definitely worth it if only because of the proximity.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 16, 2011, 07:16:45 pm
I told y'all about it yesterday  ::)

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Re: The Beer Thread
« Reply #814 on: November 15, 2011, 07:15:02 PM » Quote Modify 

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FBS is grreeeeeat! I am really looking forward to the Meridien Pint brunch where they tap FBS, CBS, two years of KBS, Blushing Monk and Backwoods Bastard


Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 05:19:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 04:58:48 pm
For only $10 more the Founders brunch at Meridian is a slam dunk compared to that one.

this is the first i've heard of this brunch - why didn't you tell us about it before?!?
http://dcbeer.com/2011/11/15/meridian-pint-hosts-founders-beer-brunch/

the founders brunch is actually $25 more - there is an obligatory $10 gratuity and $5 tax, so $65 total.

i'm running a 15 km that morning... this might be the perfect recoup meal ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2011, 01:14:29 am
finally hit up churchkey tonight for the first time.  yes, bad boy, bad.

enjoyed:
MAHR'S BRÄU WEISSE
SCALDIS TRIPLE BLONDE
KASTEEL TRIPEL
SCALDIS NOËL
PANNEPOT
FOUNDERS BREAKFAST STOUT
(from http://www.birchandbarley.com/documents/CKDRAFTWEDNESDAY11-16-2011.pdf)

favs: scaldis tripel, scaldis Noel, and the breakfast stout (obviously).  pannepot was quite interesting but not quite a top 3 of the evening.  all beers were on tap.  
 
in reality what i enjoyed the most was the fact that someone else picked up the tab ;D  that, and the deep fried mac and cheese.  yes, i know you're not supposed to like it - but you try resisting that.  <game=over>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 17, 2011, 08:10:58 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 17, 2011, 01:14:29 am
finally hit up churchkey tonight for the first time.  yes, bad boy, bad.

enjoyed:
MAHR'S BRÄU WEISSE
SCALDIS TRIPLE BLONDE
KASTEEL TRIPEL
SCALDIS NOËL
PANNEPOT
FOUNDERS BREAKFAST STOUT
(from http://www.birchandbarley.com/documents/CKDRAFTWEDNESDAY11-16-2011.pdf)

favs: scaldis tripel, scaldis Noel, and the breakfast stout (obviously).  pannepot was quite interesting but not quite a top 3 of the evening.  all beers were on tap.  
 
in reality what i enjoyed the most was the fact that someone else picked up the tab ;D  that, and the deep fried mac and cheese.  yes, i know you're not supposed to like it - but you try resisting that.  <game=over>

what??? did this person know you won $600 this week????!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 17, 2011, 08:45:53 am
Did you mow down any "yuppies" as you drove home?

Quote from: sweetcell on November 17, 2011, 01:14:29 am
finally hit up churchkey tonight for the first time.  yes, bad boy, bad.

enjoyed:
MAHR'S BRÄU WEISSE
SCALDIS TRIPLE BLONDE
KASTEEL TRIPEL
SCALDIS NOËL
PANNEPOT
FOUNDERS BREAKFAST STOUT
(from http://www.birchandbarley.com/documents/CKDRAFTWEDNESDAY11-16-2011.pdf)

favs: scaldis tripel, scaldis Noel, and the breakfast stout (obviously).  pannepot was quite interesting but not quite a top 3 of the evening.  all beers were on tap.  
 
in reality what i enjoyed the most was the fact that someone else picked up the tab ;D  that, and the deep fried mac and cheese.  yes, i know you're not supposed to like it - but you try resisting that.  <game=over>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 17, 2011, 09:12:41 am
speaking of Ommegang, local Costcos now have their Holiday gift packs

3 750s (Three Philosophers, Gnomegang and Hennepin) plus a nice tasting glass for 21.99 - seems like a great deal to me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 17, 2011, 09:28:47 am
But getting a Costco membership would kill my indie cred.

Quote from: brennser on November 17, 2011, 09:12:41 am
speaking of Ommegang, local Costcos now have their Holiday gift packs

3 750s (Three Philosophers, Gnomegang and Hennepin) plus a nice tasting glass for 21.99 - seems like a great deal to me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 17, 2011, 09:29:49 am
in that case I lost my indie cred in 1996  :D

Quote from: James Ford on November 17, 2011, 09:28:47 am
But getting a Costco membership would kill my indie cred.

Quote from: brennser on November 17, 2011, 09:12:41 am
speaking of Ommegang, local Costcos now have their Holiday gift packs

3 750s (Three Philosophers, Gnomegang and Hennepin) plus a nice tasting glass for 21.99 - seems like a great deal to me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 17, 2011, 09:32:32 am
Trader Joes Vintage Ale 2011 out next week.

Great value, very good Belgian, made by Unibroue.

Or just get a four pack of your favorite Unibroue beer. It's about the same cost per ounce.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2011, 11:34:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 17, 2011, 08:45:53 am
Did you mow down any "yuppies" as you drove home?

FYI there is this great alternative to the minivan called "the metro" :P

no way in hell i was driving after that many beers.  i could have gotten in an accident and damaged my car.

Quote from: brennser on November 17, 2011, 09:12:41 am
speaking of Ommegang, local Costcos now have their Holiday gift packs

3 750s (Three Philosophers, Gnomegang and Hennepin) plus a nice tasting glass for 21.99 - seems like a great deal to me

trader joes also have Ommegang Abbey Ale (dubbel) 750's for $6.99
 
Quote from: James Ford on November 17, 2011, 09:32:32 am
Trader Joes Vintage Ale 2011 out next week.

Great value, very good Belgian, made by Unibroue.

Or just get a four pack of your favorite Unibroue beer. It's about the same cost per ounce.

thanks, i'm on that.  their last special batch, millenium, was really nice.  wasn't made by unibroue, tho.  do you know how much the Vintage 2011 will sell for?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 18, 2011, 02:43:38 pm
Word on the interwebs is that some VA stores have gottten it and it's $4.99/bottle. Don't have it at my VA store yet, dangit.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 17, 2011, 11:34:38 am
thanks, i'm on that.  their last special batch, millenium, was really nice.  wasn't made by unibroue, tho.  do you know how much the Vintage 2011 will sell for?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 18, 2011, 03:01:22 pm
cool, thanks.  i'll be hitting up the TJ's in Tysons the week after thanksgiving, hopefully it will have arrived by then and they will still have some left.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 18, 2011, 05:14:53 pm
picked up some nice stuff . . . too lazy to post now.

but i did get four bottles of stone 11.11.11.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 18, 2011, 06:16:14 pm
Quote from: brennser on November 17, 2011, 09:12:41 am
speaking of Ommegang, local Costcos now have their Holiday gift packs

3 750s (Three Philosophers, Gnomegang and Hennepin) plus a nice tasting glass for 21.99 - seems like a great deal to me

I got one last year.  The glass has a nice shape but the gold trim isn't holding up too well after a year of use.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 18, 2011, 09:37:24 pm
Let us know what you think of that one. Reviews I've read have been mixed. It's a beer made with chilis.

I just bought a chilli pepper porter...Left Hand Fade to Black Vol. 3. Not a big fan of that brewery, but their Fade to Black series has been excellent, and this one it too. $9.49/six pack minus $1 coupon at Total Wine.

Also got a four pack of Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout. $7.49 minus $1 coupon.


Headed to the midwest for the holiday. Hope to bring home beer by Three Floyds, Half Acre, Goose Island, Columbus Brewing, and The Brew Kettle.


Quote from: walkonby on November 18, 2011, 05:14:53 pm
picked up some nice stuff . . . too lazy to post now.

but i did get four bottles of stone 11.11.11.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: renton007 on November 21, 2011, 02:23:21 pm
I randomly found a few bottles of DFH's Bitches Brew at the Springfield Whole Foods on Saturday (just FYI in case you missed out on the limited run). They also have a favorite from when I lived in Richmond, Legend's Brown Ale. I was hoping to find some of the beers from this thread but the three year old claimed that looking a bottles was "boring".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 21, 2011, 03:40:54 pm
this

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5mY5SEgzoBk/S64idTU6S-I/AAAAAAAAAig/t45jjUFhWyU/s1600/IMG_8227.jpg)


is an incredible beer.  i must find more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2011, 05:07:34 pm
people get all excited about super-hoppy beers, but for my money belgian ales are where it's at.  i tried that beer a few months back, tasty but not quite my thing:

Quote from: sweetcell on April 08, 2011, 06:10:40 pm
- http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/gouden-carolus-cuvee-van-de-keizer-rood-red/86944/
another weird spicy number.  i'm a fan of belgian beer, especially witbier, so i had high hopes for this one.  it was damn tasty but the pungent herb-y smell was a bit much by the end of the bottle.  very thick mouthfeel (just learned that word).  i'll be keeping my eye out for the darker "blue" version.
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2011, 05:23:55 pm
You gotta try Cuvee van de Kaiser Blau. That's one of my favorite Belgians.

still haven't tried the blau yet.  need to get on that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 21, 2011, 05:13:59 pm
actually . . . i just realized i purchased the "rood" version.  your ode to detail back then was spot on about the beer.  my gay lover man and i agree it was top notch.  did not know there were other versions of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 21, 2011, 05:29:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 14, 2011, 05:27:33 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 10, 2011, 02:19:22 pm
I brew.  How to brew is the best resource you can use to start.  Theres a home brew store in Falls Church (MLHBS) which is very helpful as well.  You could go in there and walk out with ingredients to start brewing right away. 

http://www.northernbrewer.com/ is a good resource for supplies, they are priced very competitively.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/ is a great forum, every question i've ever had has been answered at some point on this forum.

awesome, thanks for the input.  i will definitely have to swing by MLHBS (might even go tonight).  there is also The Flying Barrel in frederick that i've heard good things about. 

what is you best tip for the newbie?  anything you wish someone told you before you ruined your first batch?

best tip, which is commonly passed along for people starting off is, "Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew".  people often get caught up in one or two things, say your brew pot boiled over, or you didn't sanitize something before it contacted your ingredients, etc.  in the end, the small mistakes you make usually don't matter much.

i've ruined a few batches, and sometimes i've aimed for one thing, and got something completely different.  it's all a part of the process, and it's fun and interesting. i would say brew with a friend, it makes for an enjoyable time. i'd say start off with a kit, the LHBS has one for rogue dead guy, and has many others.  they can definitely get you started.  when i went in there the first time, i had no clue what i was doing and i didn't ask enough questions.  tried to play it off like i did all my research, when in fact, i didn't do nearly enough.  just be humble, and those guys will help you out and make sure you have everything you need. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 24, 2011, 10:17:53 am
Went on a beer run yesterday. Came back with bottles of Heavy Seas Loose Cannon, Brookyln Black Chocolate Stout, Bells Java Stout, Troegs Mad Elf, and Schafly Reserve Imperial Stout.
Couldn't find Great Lakes Xmas Ale anywhere, but ordered a bottle of it at Dino last night with my burger. So good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 27, 2011, 11:54:57 pm
i'm in wisconsin this week, west of milwaukee.  any good local brews i should be on the lookout for?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dave24 on November 28, 2011, 05:54:21 pm
Wisconsin should put you pretty well into Surly territory
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 28, 2011, 06:21:13 pm
Quote from: dave24 on November 28, 2011, 05:54:21 pm
Wisconsin should put you pretty well into Surly territory

thanks for the suggestion.  i'll definitely keep my eyes open for surly, but according to their website the stuff isn't available outside of minnesota.  maybe their distribution info is out of date?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 29, 2011, 10:46:02 am
I'd seek out Deschutes.  You can't get it here, which upsets me to no end. In fact, I might only drink Deschutes.

I'd also BOLO for Big Sky, Three Floyds, Lost Coast, Great Lakes, Grand Teton.  Lots of other choices of stuff you can get there but not here, but I don't recognize those names...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2011, 01:21:56 pm
Drank and brought back far too much beer while spending the holidays in Indiana. Made a day trip to chicago, a stop off in Cleveland, and one in Columbus on the way home. Didn't make it to Three Floyds brewpub (and missed out on a six pack of the rarely bottled Zombie Dust) because I caught a stomach flu from my in-laws and was puking my guts the day we were supposed to go.

Among the beers consumed/brought home that aren't available in DC area:

Three Floyds (Indiana) Dreadnaught DIPA, Alpha King APA, Robert the Bruce Scotch Ale, Alpha Panzer Wolf DIPA
Half Acre (Chicago) Daisy Cutter APA
The Brew Kettle (Cleveland area) Old 21 DIPA
Columbus IPA
Ska Brewing (Colorado) Modus Hoperandi IPA
Thirsty Dog (Ohio) Siberian Night Imperial Stout and Old Leghumper Porter
Dark Horse (Michigan) Scotty Karate Scotch Ale
Boulevard (Kansas City) Sixth Point Quad and Double Wide  DIPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2011, 01:24:18 pm
Coolest beer can of all time?

(http://www.thegreatestbeerofalltime.com/storage/Ska%20Brewing%20Company%20Modus%20Hoperandi%20India%20Pale%20Ale.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1277589143860)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2011, 01:34:10 pm
My wife must have tipped off her parents to our beer tastes, as they had a selection of Ommegang and Dogfish products waiting for us.

At the Thanksgiving table, I read the Hennepin label aloud, noting that as the label said, Father Hennepin discovered Niagara Falls. My devoutly Catholic father in law launched into a long, boring lecture telling us all new knew about Father Hennepin.

In the middle of said lecture, my four year old daughter blurts out "Mmmmm, this cheese is so fucking delicious!" My father in law went right on babbling, oblivious to the blurt and ensuing laughter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2011, 07:29:37 pm
Deschutes in WI in mid-2012, but not there yet.

Quote from: grateful on November 29, 2011, 10:46:02 am
I'd seek out Deschutes.  You can't get it here, which upsets me to no end. In fact, I might only drink Deschutes.

I'd also BOLO for Big Sky, Three Floyds, Lost Coast, Great Lakes, Grand Teton.  Lots of other choices of stuff you can get there but not here, but I don't recognize those names...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 30, 2011, 12:31:52 pm
Going to New Orleans this weekend. Anything particularly special/exclusive down there? (no, Abita doesn't count)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 30, 2011, 01:07:51 pm
Somewhere in this thread (a few pages back) is an excel file showing which beers are available in which states, by brewery.  I think it's a great guide if what you want to do is explore offerings from breweries that you don't typically have access to.

If you have a strong preference for a particular style, I'd suggest seeking that out, regardless of whether you can get it at home.  I will absolutely seek out an Imperial Stout or a DIPA, depending on my mood.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 30, 2011, 02:58:50 pm
 http://www.nme.com/news/hanson/60704

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American pop band Hanson have revealed they are launching their own brand of beer called 'Mmmhop'.

The trio have announced that the beverage ? which is named after their 1997 Number One single 'Mmmbop' ? will be an Indian pale ale that will be available early next year, reports the Daily Express.

The group discussed the details of their new venture at the Oxford Union earlier this week (November 28), with drummer Zac Hanson telling the audience: "It's vital our fans trust in everything Hanson do. We are soon going to be selling our own beer. I'm not joking ? Mmmhop IPA anyone?"

Hanson released their eighth studio album 'Shout It Out' in June 2010. Earlier this year, meanwhile, guitarist Isaac Hanson accused Kings Of Leon of "acting like pricks" after the Tennessee band shelved tour dates with singer Caleb Followill allegedly suffering from exhaustion and vocal problems.

Hanson aren't the only band to try their hand at the alcoholic beverage industry. Elbow launched their own charity beer named after their 'Build A Rocket Boys!' album and donated the proceeds from its sales to Oxfam, while the likes of The Rifles and Kiss have also introduced their own brands of ale this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 03, 2011, 06:06:20 pm
does anybody know where i can buy this.  has anybody seen this stuff in the district anywhere?  i am desperate to find it as a gift for someone.  please help.

(http://www.bombshelterbar.com/images/champale2009.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: redsock on December 04, 2011, 10:05:28 pm
Anyone try the Stone 15th Anniversary Black IPA? Bought a bottle on impulse but can gift it if it isn't worth it.

Also got a six pack of the River Horse Tripel Horse, which is a reasonable Belgium from a brewery in NJ. I'm liking it, and the 10% alcohol guarantees I'll like it for the rest of the week too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2011, 10:39:33 pm
Stone's Black IPA is great.  Don't gift it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 05, 2011, 09:41:38 am
Indeed.

I wonder how long this one will be good for. It says "Drink Fresh" and the bottling date is August 2011.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2011, 10:39:33 pm
Stone's Black IPA is great.  Don't gift it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 05, 2011, 01:48:06 pm
I won't keep mine but it should age ok, shouldn't it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 05, 2011, 02:27:02 pm
I guess my concern is over losing some of the hoppiness.

Found this (their suggestion is no doubt intended to sell more bottles of it):


http://blog.stonebrew.com/?p=2570



We do recommend drinking this beer as fresh as possible, but those inclined to age their beers will probably not be disappointed, as the intense roast malt flavors will enhance the aging potential of this beer, even as the fresh hop character fades over time. If you do decide to age, we strongly suggest not to do it with just one bottle tucked away in the back of your closet for some undetermined amount of time, but rather with a few bottles, properly cellared (55 degrees F, or below), and a predetermined ?open, and enjoy the progression? series of dates not more than six months apart (three month intervals are suggested for this particular beer). That way, you can enjoy and appreciate the cellaring process in addition to the beer itself.



Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 05, 2011, 01:48:06 pm
I won't keep mine but it should age ok, shouldn't it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 05, 2011, 02:39:17 pm
Best 9:30 club offering-  Troeg's Javahead Stout,  like it even more than the Brooklyn Double Chocolate Stout. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 05, 2011, 03:15:37 pm
Does the Beer List at the club change much?  The latest rage for bars is to have a live webcam shot of a sign showing what's available.  Maybe we could get a shot of the signage over on tumblr whenever something new comes in....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 05, 2011, 05:22:05 pm
Had no idea the dbl chocolate stout was at the club. Nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 05, 2011, 06:08:05 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 05, 2011, 05:22:05 pm
Had no idea the dbl chocolate stout was at the club. Nice.


basement bar
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on December 08, 2011, 03:27:46 pm
Came home with way too many beers from my trip to chicago, but will be trying many of these this weekend....

Great Lakes: Eliot Ness, Commodore Perry, Edmund Fitzgerald (note- I hate porters, but love the song, so had to get it)

Capital Brewery (Wisconsin): supper club

Chi-Town: windy city wheat, pier pale ale

Bell's: best brown ale, oarsman ale

New Glarus: spotted cow (a favorite, so stocked up), moon man, two women, fat squirrel

Boulevard: single-wide, double-wide (750ml), smokehouse series collaboration #2 white ipa (750 ml; collaboration with deschutes)...also brought back their wheat beer for the wife.

Crooked Line: detour double ipa (750 ml)

Sam Adams: third way double ipa (1 pint, 6 oz)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on December 08, 2011, 03:50:19 pm
Speaking of Bell's, I went to Church Key on Tuesday for the Black Note tapping.

Had never heard of it, but figured Bell's could do no wrong and it was the only keg in DC/VA, so what the hell.

Nevertheless, it was Kalamazoo Stout aged in Old Forrester Bourbon Barrels combined with their Double Cream Stout.  Clocked in at 11.5%, and it was absolutely delicious.  Really roasty and smooth, on the verge of being sweet, very good.

Made a stout night of it and also tried:
Diesel - from Sixpoint brewery
Christmas Eve at a New York City Hotel Room - from Evil Twin
NATAS - from DC Brau (Cask conditioned and dry hopped with centennial hops)

All had good roasty/coffee/chocolate notes.  Diesel was pretty standard, a little thin for my tastes.  Christmas Eve.. was good, a lot like Black Note, but just not as good in any area.  NATAS, solid beer, but I generally across the board am not a fan of the sweetness in most porters and this was the case here as well. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 14, 2011, 10:04:23 am
So let me ask you, dear 9:30 board friends. How many of you would want to share a beer with Newt Gingrich? Wouldn't you be afraid of contracting herpes or boredom or something? Good lord, who writes this shit?


You don?t get more un-Romney than Gingrich. Imperfect and untidy, he?s the serial husband with whom anyone could feel comfortable sharing a beer. Or a keg. A sinner like the rest of us, he?s as familiar and comfortable as an old sofa.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gops-death-wish/2011/12/09/gIQALe5CjO_story.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 14, 2011, 10:39:21 am
Newt is a fucknig train-wreck

http://www.thedailyshow.com/collection/403573/a-whole-newt-ball-game/386213
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 14, 2011, 01:34:28 pm
I'm not going to match it against the Belgian holiday offerings, but I would say this is the best holiday themed beer produced by a North American brewery. Ever.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LlrWtl9Goy0/TtvAqvtC-uI/AAAAAAAADK0/ai4h72IaBq0/s400/Lagunitas+Sucks+Holiday+Ale+Brown+Shugga%2527+Substitute.JPG)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on December 14, 2011, 04:30:40 pm
Was in West Virginia for work earlier this week (much to my chagrin), so I drove over to Ohio to this beer store I found on BA and bought two bombers of Three Floyds.  Got Alpha Klaus and Dreadnaught. They also had Lagunitas Sucks but I had a few of those on tap at Iron Horse last weekend. Can't wait to try these.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 14, 2011, 05:10:24 pm
Both are awesome. Make sure you drink them quickly, as the Three Floyds hoppy stuff seems to lose intensity pretty fast.

Had an Alpha King 12 oz with dinner last night. Had an Arctic Panzer Wolf (maybe a bit more bitter than Dreadnaught, hard to say which is better) bomber a week ago. Had Dreadnaught on draft while in Chicago and Thanksgiving. yum yum.

misread your post: alpha KLAUS, which is a porter, will probably keep better than alph KING, a pale ale.

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on December 14, 2011, 04:30:40 pm
Was in West Virginia for work earlier this week (much to my chagrin), so I drove over to Ohio to this beer store I found on BA and bought two bombers of Three Floyds.  Got Alpha Klaus and Dreadnaught. They also had Lagunitas Sucks but I had a few of those on tap at Iron Horse last weekend. Can't wait to try these.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 14, 2011, 05:59:40 pm
i like beer and all . . . but james ford is a beer crack head.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 14, 2011, 09:27:17 pm
He is.  I should have checked with him before I flew to Dallas.  Got there and had no idea what I should have been looking for.  The only homework I ever do is what record stores I need to visit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 14, 2011, 10:11:53 pm
haha

just used about four years worth of miles saved to book a European trip for three.

Six days in Germany, three in Belgium, and three in Amsterdam. Rumor has it they drink beer in those countries.   ;D  Might even have to have more than one per day!


Quote from: walkonby on December 14, 2011, 05:59:40 pm
i like beer and all . . . but james ford is a beer crack head.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 14, 2011, 11:07:34 pm
Quick: anyone have any opinions on the offerings from Lakefront Brewery (WI)?  I'm trying to choose here... Starting with a Fuel Cafe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on December 15, 2011, 09:47:27 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 14, 2011, 11:07:34 pm
Quick: anyone have any opinions on the offerings from Lakefront Brewery (WI)?  I'm trying to choose here... Starting with a Fuel Cafe.

So, how'd you like it?

I was in Milwaukee summer before last for a wedding, did the Lakefront Brewery tour.  I thought it was all quite bland.  In my opinion, it all had that horribly thin, metallic taste that one associates with all the big lager breweries out there.  I later came to realize that is just a Milwaukee thing, as I was surprisingly disappointed in just about everything that I had on that trip because it all tastes like that.

New Glarus was an exception, but even that wasn't as good as the hype wanted me to think it was.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 15, 2011, 10:50:27 am
Has anybody tried the Infinium yet?  I have a bottle chilling in the basement, but the reviews seem mediocre to poor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 15, 2011, 11:23:37 am
I think it's been discussed at some point in this thread, but how is the Pearl Jam 20th Anniversary Dogfishhead Brew??

Picked up two bottles of the weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 15, 2011, 11:54:29 am
Quote from: imbecile on December 15, 2011, 09:47:27 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 14, 2011, 11:07:34 pm
Quick: anyone have any opinions on the offerings from Lakefront Brewery (WI)?  I'm trying to choose here... Starting with a Fuel Cafe.

So, how'd you like it?

I was in Milwaukee summer before last for a wedding, did the Lakefront Brewery tour.  I thought it was all quite bland.  In my opinion, it all had that horribly thin, metallic taste that one associates with all the big lager breweries out there.  I later came to realize that is just a Milwaukee thing, as I was surprisingly disappointed in just about everything that I had on that trip because it all tastes like that.

New Glarus was an exception, but even that wasn't as good as the hype wanted me to think it was.

i need to share my full appreciation of WI beers, what what tomorrow being my last day here, but until then: you're pretty spot on about the Lakehead.  the Fuel Cafe coffee stout was quite solid but don't know that i'd order it again, and the Wheat Monkey was unimpressive (and disappointing, since i love wheat beer).  the evening wasn't a complete loss, tho, thanks to Bell's.  the restaurant i was at had their White Winter Ale (http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/10-Winter%20White%20Ale%20) which i quite enjoyed.  it was a nice mix between a heavy spiced winter seasonal and a summer'y whitbier.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on December 15, 2011, 01:40:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 15, 2011, 11:54:29 am
Quote from: imbecile on December 15, 2011, 09:47:27 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 14, 2011, 11:07:34 pm
Quick: anyone have any opinions on the offerings from Lakefront Brewery (WI)?  I'm trying to choose here... Starting with a Fuel Cafe.

So, how'd you like it?

I was in Milwaukee summer before last for a wedding, did the Lakefront Brewery tour.  I thought it was all quite bland.  In my opinion, it all had that horribly thin, metallic taste that one associates with all the big lager breweries out there.  I later came to realize that is just a Milwaukee thing, as I was surprisingly disappointed in just about everything that I had on that trip because it all tastes like that.

New Glarus was an exception, but even that wasn't as good as the hype wanted me to think it was.

i need to share my full appreciation of WI beers, what what tomorrow being my last day here, but until then: you're pretty spot on about the Lakehead.  the Fuel Cafe coffee stout was quite solid but don't know that i'd order it again, and the Wheat Monkey was unimpressive (and disappointing, since i love wheat beer).  the evening wasn't a complete loss, tho, thanks to Bell's.  the restaurant i was at had their White Winter Ale (http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/10-Winter%20White%20Ale%20) which i quite enjoyed.  it was a nice mix between a heavy spiced winter seasonal and a summer'y whitbier.

That's good to know that the Stout was good.

I guess I should've actually listed the four I had on the tour (their wheat, ESB, IPA, and american Red ale); all of which can easily come off rather thin tasting.  I do like Stouts and will give theirs a try if I ever come across it.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 15, 2011, 03:30:03 pm
If you put and trust in ratebeer's ratings, you'll see that the Fuel Cafe Stout gets a 52nd percentile overall and a 29th percentile among sweet stouts. It's been awhile since i had one, but i'd say those ratings are pretty spot on. I'd drink one if you have me one, but I wouldn't buy it again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 15, 2011, 10:08:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 15, 2011, 11:54:29 am
i need to share my full appreciation of WI beers

so here we go: tonight is my last night in WI, after having worked here for the past 4 weeks.  brews that have been tasted:

New Glarus (http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/)
- Spotted Cow: my favorite local beer.
- Flying Squirrel: second-fav.
- Above 40 Boch (on tap) - not bad, a tad bitter, but wouldn't order again.
- Naked: wanted to like it, but in this case "back-to-basics approach to brewing" amounts to "rather plain".

Ale Asylum (http://aleasylum.com/)
- Contorter Porter: a little watery and a tad bitter.  did not like.  ironic since the label boasts of the beer's smoothness.  maybe i got a bad batch?
- Hopalicious: had it on a full stomach and it didn't sit well.  it was indeed hoppy.

Sprecher (http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/)
- Special Amber: surprisingly good.  first amber i've really enjoyed in a while.

so all in all, it's been fun but i haven't found anything that i'd bother bringing home.  HOWEVER, the beer highlight has been Cafe Hollander.  OH MY GAWD CHECK OUT THIS BEER LIST (http://www.lowlandsgroup.com/admin/pdfs/cafehollander_tosa_beer.pdf).  i'm like a kid in a candy store there.  i've been to the joint a few times and so far have tried:

- Delirium Noel
- High Speed Wit
- Wittekerke Winter Wit
- Goose Island Mathilda
- Confessions Grand Cru
- N'ice Chouffe (least fav but still solid)
- Ename Cuvee

i'm actually on my way there right now for my send-off party.  if anyone reads this in the next few hours and sees something on that menu that they recommend, please lemme know :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 09:45:51 am
If you've never had Three Floyds, you owe it to yourself to check this out (note: these are bottles only on the FFF) For hopheads, I especially recommend the Dreadnaught, Panzer Wolf, and Alpha King.

From the DCbeer website (words are not mine)


.The fine folks at Meridian Pint / Smoke and Barrel have just made all your Christmas wishes come true by announcing an event next week featuring one of my favorite breweries, Three Floyds. This brewery is often referred to as one of the very best breweries in America. They are a smaller brewery in Munster,IN and have a small distribution area, so take advantage of this rare opportunity.

The one-day-only event is next Wednesday, December 21, starting at 6PM at Smoke and Barrel in Adams Morgan and will feature a total of seven beers.

Dreadnaught, Alpha King, Gumballhead, Alpha Klaus, Arctic Panzer Wolf, Ragnarok, Pride & Joy

If you haven?t had a chance to try anything from Three Floyds, now is the time to make plans. Enjoy

The very next day at Meridan Pint, the fun continues with four more out-of-market beers. This is also a one night event. These will go fast so arrive early.

Ale Asylum Satisfaction JacksinLakefront RiverWest SteinNew Glarus Moon ManNew Glarus Spooted CowSprecher Black BavarianTyranena Rocky?s Revenge Bourbon BrownAle Asylum Satisfaction Jacksin

Lakefront RiverWest Stein

New Glarus Moon Man

New Glarus Spooted Cow

Sprecher Black Bavarian

Tyranena Rocky?s Revenge Bourbon Brown

My personal excitement for this event peaked quickly, only to be immediately extinguished as I realized I?m leaving town for the Holidays the day before. Reminds me Christmas 89??G.I. Joe Walkie Talkie set ??not so fast..here is some flannel kid.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 19, 2011, 10:34:39 am
Quote from: Yada on December 15, 2011, 11:23:37 am
I think it's been discussed at some point in this thread, but how is the Pearl Jam 20th Anniversary Dogfishhead Brew??

Picked up two bottles of the weekend.

pearl jam beer . . . is excellent.  even with currants.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 11:11:07 am
Question for those who have a bottle stash in the cellars...

Which brewery do you have the most bottles from? My current top three are:

Founders: 22 bottles
Victory: 20 bottles
Ommegang: 17 bottles

Unibroue (counting TJ's Vintage) and Lagunitas are close behind.



My problem is I buy more beer than i drink.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 19, 2011, 11:58:57 am
yep . . . crackhead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on December 19, 2011, 12:18:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 14, 2011, 01:34:28 pm
I'm not going to match it against the Belgian holiday offerings, but I would say this is the best holiday themed beer produced by a North American brewery. Ever.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LlrWtl9Goy0/TtvAqvtC-uI/AAAAAAAADK0/ai4h72IaBq0/s400/Lagunitas+Sucks+Holiday+Ale+Brown+Shugga%2527+Substitute.JPG)

This beer is really really good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 12:28:15 pm
*Might* be my favorite under-$10 six pack ever.

Word is they're releasing another batch and renaming it Holiday Leftovers Ale.

Regardless of the name, i'm hoping it becomes an annual seasonal release. It will be my go to for sure!



Quote from: fatskippy on December 19, 2011, 12:18:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 14, 2011, 01:34:28 pm
I'm not going to match it against the Belgian holiday offerings, but I would say this is the best holiday themed beer produced by a North American brewery. Ever.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LlrWtl9Goy0/TtvAqvtC-uI/AAAAAAAADK0/ai4h72IaBq0/s400/Lagunitas+Sucks+Holiday+Ale+Brown+Shugga%2527+Substitute.JPG)

This beer is really really good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 19, 2011, 01:37:18 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 11:11:07 am
Question for those who have a bottle stash in the cellars...

Which brewery do you have the most bottles from? My current top three are:

Founders: 22 bottles
Victory: 20 bottles
Ommegang: 17 bottles

Unibroue (counting TJ's Vintage) and Lagunitas are close behind.



My problem is I buy more beer than i drink.

I don't have a cellar, I just have an extra fridge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 19, 2011, 01:37:38 pm
had some friends over yesterday for a holiday get-together, and folks brought several seasonal holiday ales (none were lagunitas, unfortunately - sounds like i need to track down some of that).

in order of preference:
- Anderson Valley Winter Solstice: omg omg omg this is delicious.  caramel?  vanilla?  not sure, but it's one of the tastier winter brews i've had since... well... last week (but to be fair, that was an exceptional week).  highly recommended.
- Anchor's 37th Our Special Ale: solid.
- Breckenridge Christmas Ale: somewhat pedestrian.

also had Dogfish Head's Theobroma ("ale brewed with honey, cocoa nibs, cocoa powder, ancho chilies and ground annatto").  t'was pretty good and not particularly spicy.  it was better then their Red & White but still a little too weird and not worth the price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 19, 2011, 02:15:57 pm
we need to bring http://www.taphunter.com/ to DC.

Quote from: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 11:11:07 am
Question for those who have a bottle stash in the cellars...

Which brewery do you have the most bottles from?

i don't have much in the way of aging beer: 10 old dominion barleywines and a 4-pack of unibroue.  i'll up the unibroue count if i can make it to TJ's before they run out.  my cellar is mostly made up of 25-30 bottles of red wine collecting dust.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 21, 2011, 12:44:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 12:28:15 pm
*Might* be my favorite under-$10 six pack ever.

Word is they're releasing another batch and renaming it Holiday Leftovers Ale.

Regardless of the name, i'm hoping it becomes an annual seasonal release. It will be my go to for sure!

Had some of this at Black Squirrel.  It is indeed very good.  I wouldn't trample babies to get my hands on it, but it's good stuff nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on December 22, 2011, 12:24:46 am
Had the 3 Floyds Alpha Klaus tonight. Holy sh*t, it was delicious. Very chocolatey stout, one of the best I've had this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 22, 2011, 12:54:11 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 11:11:07 am
Question for those who have a bottle stash in the cellars...

Which brewery do you have the most bottles from? My current top three are:

Founders: 22 bottles
Victory: 20 bottles
Ommegang: 17 bottles

Unibroue (counting TJ's Vintage) and Lagunitas are close behind.

My problem is I buy more beer than i drink.

Interesting. What do you have from Victory? Is is ageable stuff or do you just happen to have bought a case of it recently?

Dogfish: 24 bottles (2 vintages of Bitches Brew and Life and Limb, some Immort, 120 min and Pearl Jam)
Founders: 20+ bottles ('10 and '11 KBS, '10 and "11 BS, Backwoods Bastard, Nemesis and some Double Trouble that is way past its sell by date)
Goose Island: (BCBS, King Henry, Night Stalker and Big John)
Sierra Nevada: 8 (a variety of 30th anniv beers)

Other random stuff: Troegs Mad Elf, Brooklyn Black Ops, Firestone Walker Parabola, The Abyss, Alesmith Speedway Stout and a few other bits and pieces
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on December 22, 2011, 02:16:46 am
Got two  ;D
http://www.stellaartois.com/1-800-my-chalice-4108/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on December 22, 2011, 09:43:08 am
Had a Schlafly Christmas Ale with my latkes and matzah ball soup last night at Star & Shamrock, very tasty
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 22, 2011, 10:09:15 am
Nice!

As far as Victory goes...they don't have a "killer" beer like Hopslam or KBS, but they do a wide range of stuff very well, imo. They are all winners in the value/quality department, and put nearly everything out in 12 oz six pack bottles (which i definitely prefer to bombers)

In my cellar I have (all of these are higher abv and came in well priced six packs (not four and not bombers!):

Old Horizontal (American Style Barleywine): heard they weren't making it this year, but found a bunch of six packs from last year (and grabbed one) from a small grocery store chain store in Indiana with a shockingly good craft beer selection. It's a hoppy barleywine somewhat reminiscent of Sierra Nevada Bigfoot

Moonglow (Weizenbock): Not really one of my favorite styles, but this one is nice. Probably my second favorite in style, second only the Schneider Avenitus (but cheaper!)

Yakima Glory (Black IPA): Actually more dark amber than black....excellent rich mix of hop bitterness and roastiness.. not my *favorite* black ipa, but probably the best one that I can get in VA that comes in a six pack (until Southern Tier starts six packing their black ipa in 2012)

Storm King (Imperial Stout): Very good, on the hoppier side for an imperial stout. Compares in value and quality I think to Old Rasputin

Don't have but have tried:

Hop Devil (IPA):decent, but there are obviously so many (better) ipas on the market, I don't bother with this one.
Hop Wallop (DIPA): very good, but again too many better competitors
Prima Pils (Pilsner): Gets high marks on BA and RB (and from my pilsner loving friend), but I'm not a pilsner guy...


Quote from: brennser on December 22, 2011, 12:54:11 am

Interesting. What do you have from Victory? Is is ageable stuff or do you just happen to have bought a case of it recently?

Dogfish: 24 bottles (2 vintages of Bitches Brew and Life and Limb, some Immort, 120 min and Pearl Jam)
Founders: 20+ bottles ('10 and '11 KBS, '10 and "11 BS, Backwoods Bastard, Nemesis and some Double Trouble that is way past its sell by date)
Goose Island: (BCBS, King Henry, Night Stalker and Big John)
Sierra Nevada: 8 (a variety of 30th anniv beers)

Other random stuff: Troegs Mad Elf, Brooklyn Black Ops, Firestone Walker Parabola, The Abyss, Alesmith Speedway Stout and a few other bits and pieces
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 22, 2011, 10:11:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 22, 2011, 10:09:15 am

Prima Pils (Pilsner): Gets high marks on BA and RB (and from my pilsner loving friend), but I'm not a pilsner guy...


Quote from: brennser on December 22, 2011, 12:54:11 am

Interesting. What do you have from Victory? Is is ageable stuff or do you just happen to have bought a case of it recently?

Dogfish: 24 bottles (2 vintages of Bitches Brew and Life and Limb, some Immort, 120 min and Pearl Jam)
Founders: 20+ bottles ('10 and '11 KBS, '10 and "11 BS, Backwoods Bastard, Nemesis and some Double Trouble that is way past its sell by date)
Goose Island: (BCBS, King Henry, Night Stalker and Big John)
Sierra Nevada: 8 (a variety of 30th anniv beers)

Other random stuff: Troegs Mad Elf, Brooklyn Black Ops, Firestone Walker Parabola, The Abyss, Alesmith Speedway Stout and a few other bits and pieces

Gotta say, Prima Pils is my favorite Victory brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on December 22, 2011, 12:11:31 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 11:11:07 am
Question for those who have a bottle stash in the cellars...

Which brewery do you have the most bottles from? My current top three are:

Founders: 22 bottles
Victory: 20 bottles
Ommegang: 17 bottles

Unibroue (counting TJ's Vintage) and Lagunitas are close behind.



My problem is I buy more beer than i drink.

It sounds like you might have an expiration problem soon.

http://blog.stonebrew.com/?p=2894 (http://blog.stonebrew.com/?p=2894)

There's always people to help with that problem.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 22, 2011, 12:16:59 pm
Quote from: slappy on December 22, 2011, 12:11:31 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 11:11:07 am
Question for those who have a bottle stash in the cellars...

Which brewery do you have the most bottles from? My current top three are:

Founders: 22 bottles
Victory: 20 bottles
Ommegang: 17 bottles

Unibroue (counting TJ's Vintage) and Lagunitas are close behind.



My problem is I buy more beer than i drink.

It sounds like you might have an expiration problem soon.

http://blog.stonebrew.com/?p=2894 (http://blog.stonebrew.com/?p=2894)

There's always people to help with that problem.

Kill the Cellar party at Jim Ford's house while jammin' to Dad rock!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 22, 2011, 02:52:42 pm
Haha. Nah, I meticulously rotate stuff to beat the expiration dates.  :D

Those Victory, Founders, and Ommegang's all have anywhere from nine months to 5+ years left.

Quote from: slappy on December 22, 2011, 12:11:31 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 19, 2011, 11:11:07 am
Question for those who have a bottle stash in the cellars...

Which brewery do you have the most bottles from? My current top three are:

Founders: 22 bottles
Victory: 20 bottles
Ommegang: 17 bottles

Unibroue (counting TJ's Vintage) and Lagunitas are close behind.



My problem is I buy more beer than i drink.

It sounds like you might have an expiration problem soon.

http://blog.stonebrew.com/?p=2894 (http://blog.stonebrew.com/?p=2894)

There's always people to help with that problem.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 22, 2011, 03:30:39 pm
I'd be down for a forum tasting sometime - especially seeing as none of us seem to go to actual concerts any more  :P
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 22, 2011, 03:31:05 pm
Quote from: brennser on December 22, 2011, 03:30:39 pm
I'd be down for a forum tasting sometime - especially seeing as none of us seem to go to actual concerts any more  :P
but only if walkie brings his Founders CBS  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 22, 2011, 03:33:06 pm
oh you should see . . . what else i could bring.


 ;D   :D   ;)   :)   :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 22, 2011, 03:43:38 pm
I have a feeling I'd be expected to serve up something better than the Sierra Celebration my wife breaks out when the non-beer snob neighbors stop by.  ;)

Quote from: brennser on December 22, 2011, 03:30:39 pm
I'd be down for a forum tasting sometime - especially seeing as none of us seem to go to actual concerts any more  :P
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on December 22, 2011, 06:44:01 pm
So what's the best beer you drank in 2011? You can only pick one. I'll go first:

Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Vanilla Stout.

Was fortunate enough to come across this at a beer store while visiting my parents in Upstate NY. Then I made the stupid mistake of passing on a bottle of BCS Rare for $40. Couldn't justify spending that much on one bomber at the time (though I would have bought it now). Nonetheless, the BCS Vanilla was spectacularly good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 22, 2011, 11:34:45 pm
easy one, my friend.

i'll even space it out for added effect.

founders harvest ale.  good lord.  enough said.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 23, 2011, 12:14:48 am
first . . . my choice for christmas beer of the year (sorry mister ford)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BWbI2Ufli4s/Tuxc1Ir5BoI/AAAAAAAABps/J8dxszGyNMY/s1600/Corsendonk%252520Christmas%252520Ale%252520-%252520250ml%252520-%2525200x250.jpg)


now let me introduce to you my final beer purchases in december, after such an excellent year for drinking beer:

lagunitas sucks  holiday ale (thank you for the mention of this, got 2 six packs and loved it)
bell's  best brown
ovila  saison
rj ruckers  black perle
troegs  mad elf ale
new holland  cabin fever brown ale
duvel
elysian/stone  la citrueille celeste
delirium  noel
moosehead lager (said what the hell, and it was good)
founders  dry hopped pale ale
red hook  (esb / copper hook / long hammer ipa)
dogfish head  pearl jam  twenty  faithful ale
abita  twenty fifth anniversary  vanilla doubledog
abita  restoration ale
anchor brewing   merry christmas and happy new year 2011
williamsburg aleworks   drake tail
hibernator   long trail
erdinger   hefe-weizen  dark
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 23, 2011, 08:36:21 am
The Corsendonk ale is my traditional holiday beer.  Unfortunately I haven't bought any this year.

Did buy some Lagunitas Sucks last night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 23, 2011, 09:36:30 am
Anyone else battling a stage three hangover at work right now?

Argh!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Mobius on December 27, 2011, 11:20:46 am
Tried Dogfish Head 120 minute IPA yesterday . . .whoa . . .amazing beer, but truly must be consumed with caution.  One bottle drunk over about 30 minutes at lunch seemed like 3hrs and 6 beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 27, 2011, 01:21:53 pm
I learned that both Duvel and Goose Island Mathilda go great with a seafood feast.

I also learned that Williamsburg Alewerks Bourbon Barrel Porter, though quite yummy, doesn't pair with chili.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 27, 2011, 02:27:57 pm
Courtesy of my wine-drinking Napa Valley relatives, my 2011 xmas gift/beer haul included:

St. Bernardus Christmas Ale
North Coast Brother Thelonius
North Coast Old Rasputin
Hair of the Dog - Fred
Bear Republic Racer 5
Anderson Valley - Brother David's Triple
and and and...
3 bottles of Pliny the Elder!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 27, 2011, 02:34:44 pm
wow, your relatives must me way richer than mine.  :o


Quote from: grateful on December 27, 2011, 02:27:57 pm
Courtesy of my wine-drinking Napa Valley relatives, my 2011 xmas gift/beer haul included:

St. Bernardus Christmas Ale
North Coast Brother Thelonius
North Coast Old Rasputin
Hair of the Dog - Fred
Bear Republic Racer 5
Anderson Valley - Brother David's Triple
and and and...
3 bottles of Pliny the Elder!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 30, 2011, 02:40:07 pm
knock yourself out...but don't drive home


Trappistes Rochefort 10 11.3% | Alvinne Oak AGEd Melchior 11.5% | Keagan ales Super kitty 12% | De Dolle Stille Nacht 12% |Avery Mephistopheles 16.83% | Dogfish head 120 minute IPA 18%.
$65 each, all inclusive, Georgetown, Thursday, January 19.



(http://www.eatyourpizza.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/high-alcohol-1024x791.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 30, 2011, 03:04:31 pm
Picked up some Lagunitas Sucks at Quench last night - verrrrrry nice!  (BTW they only got 1 case, so get it if you're gonna!)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 30, 2011, 04:03:25 pm
found a beer shoppee having a wonderful twenty percent off sale, so i got some final buys before the end of the year . . . yeah, pictures

(http://www.theweeklybrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Ommegang.jpg)

(http://tastingreview.com/viptr/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/houblon-chouffe-dobbelen-ipa-tripel.jpg)

(http://store.liquorama.net/nl/dogfish90minute.jpg)

(http://www.joecanalsmillville.com/palm.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 30, 2011, 04:20:25 pm
I know a location that has more. I still have nine bottles left (plus a million other bottles). Fighting the urge to grab another six pack by telling myself that Hopslam will be here in a few weeks (though Lagunitas Sucks is half the price).

Quote from: grateful on December 30, 2011, 03:04:31 pm
Picked up some Lagunitas Sucks at Quench last night - verrrrrry nice!  (BTW they only got 1 case, so get it if you're gonna!)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: redsock on December 30, 2011, 07:26:12 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 30, 2011, 04:03:25 pm
found a beer shoppee having a wonderful twenty percent off sale, so i got some final buys before the end of the year . . . yeah, pictures

(http://www.joecanalsmillville.com/palm.jpg)

I really like Palm. It is a very drinkable, not super alcohol beer, that feels like there is more to it. It can be a little pricey in some places, especially considering it is not a prime European beer, but more and more places have it on draft, which is nice. Sometimes nice and easy is good, especially if you plan to drink three or more...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 03, 2012, 11:53:27 am
Picked up a case of the Suck at the Perfect Pour last week. They had multiple cases...

On a separate note, that store made me blow a load in my pants. Definitely over priced though...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 03, 2012, 12:05:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 03, 2012, 11:53:27 am
Picked up a case of the Suck at the Perfect Pour last week. They had multiple cases...

On a separate note, that store made me blow a load in my pants. Definitely over priced though...

Beer Disneyland!  Love that place.  Don't mind paying an extra buck for the stuff I can't find anywhere else!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 03, 2012, 12:38:02 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on January 03, 2012, 12:05:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 03, 2012, 11:53:27 am
Picked up a case of the Suck at the Perfect Pour last week. They had multiple cases...

On a separate note, that store made me blow a load in my pants. Definitely over priced though...

Beer Disneyland!  Love that place.  Don't mind paying an extra buck for the stuff I can't find anywhere else!


$1 or $2 are fine, but items like the Pearl Jam Dogfish head were nearly double the price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 03, 2012, 01:10:55 pm
The highlight of my beer filled weekend was trying Firestone Walker's Parabola for the first time on draft at Fairfax Whole Foods. I think the keg lasted maybe three hours, so glad i got some!

It's a bourbon barrel aged imperial stout. My wife liked it better than Founders KBS. I won't go that far, but it was quite good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 03, 2012, 01:35:05 pm
Love their Double Jack IPA.  Nobody seems to talk about it but it's awfully good, IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 03, 2012, 01:42:43 pm
They had the Double Jack on draft as well. $3.99 for a 12 oz pour. We split one of those too.  ;D Indeed it is awfully good.

Didn't mention it because they always seem to have it on draft. The Parabola was special.

The Union Jack aint too shabby either.  ;)


Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 03, 2012, 01:35:05 pm
Love their Double Jack IPA.  Nobody seems to talk about it but it's awfully good, IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 04, 2012, 02:48:45 pm
Does anybody know of any Monday happy hours that feature craft beer and food in DC?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on January 04, 2012, 03:25:20 pm
For the fourth year in a row I will be headed here this weekend:  http://bigbeersfestival.com/

Strong ales at 8150ft.  Oh yes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 04, 2012, 06:36:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 04, 2012, 02:48:45 pm
Does anybody know of any Monday happy hours that feature craft beer and food in DC?

not sure if this is good but here, try this:

http://www.dchappyhours.com/

see . . . i can be nice, but only to james and only about beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 04, 2012, 06:56:20 pm
are there any noteworthy craft beers or bars/pubs i should seek out while in dallas?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 04, 2012, 07:01:35 pm
ok ok . . . i'll be nice to you too

http://beeradvocate.com/beerfly/city/31
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 04, 2012, 07:08:08 pm
here . . . have something to read too

http://beernews.org/2012/01/the-year-in-beer-the-top-5-stories-of-2011/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 04, 2012, 07:55:55 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 04, 2012, 07:01:35 pm
ok ok . . . i'll be nice to you too

http://beeradvocate.com/beerfly/city/31

teh awwz... thx.  i stumbled across that and http://www.realbeer.com/destinations/dallas/index.php.  based on those, i might eventually hit up the flying saucer, meddlesome moth, the ginger man and/or strangeways.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 04, 2012, 09:26:23 pm
I hit up ginger man when I was in Dallas last month.  Lots of taps so you're bound to find something decent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 05, 2012, 09:28:49 am
Saw that but it wasn't very helpful. Was hoping somebody would have some other ideas.

Has anyody been to Smoke and Barrel? For a BBQ place, they appear to have some good vegetarian options, and an excellent draft list (and cans but not bottles, what's up with that?) If so, is the food any good? Is it more nice restaurant (like ChurchKey) or dive bar (like Big Hunt)?


Quote from: walkonby on January 04, 2012, 06:36:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 04, 2012, 02:48:45 pm
Does anybody know of any Monday happy hours that feature craft beer and food in DC?

not sure if this is good but here, try this:

http://www.dchappyhours.com/

see . . . i can be nice, but only to james and only about beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 05, 2012, 09:39:13 am
I don't know if this is the proper thread, but I went to the Hamilton last night.

Can you say, meh?????? I won't return unless it's for drinks only. It's basically a goliath Old Ebitts and Clydes thrown together that can't seem to figure out what kind of identity they're going for.

I unfortunately didn't get to check out the area where shows will take place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 05, 2012, 10:11:58 am
james . . . for some reason in the beer world, cans are now hip.  cans are shit, and nothing else.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 05, 2012, 10:56:30 am
To me it really doesn't matter whether it comes in a can or a bottle since it's going in the proper (or at least as close the the proper as my glass collection can get) glassware before I drink it anyway.

I haven't had any taste issues with canned beer that were caused by cans. And aren't cans better in terms of preserving the beer better anyway?

Quote from: walkonby on January 05, 2012, 10:11:58 am
james . . . for some reason in the beer world, cans are now hip.  cans are shit, and nothing else.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 05, 2012, 11:23:55 am
it might just be me . . . but i have always thought beer tastes better in glass.  beers in cans only are good in one situation.  small coolers for kayaking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 05, 2012, 11:25:39 am
Does this mean you can't buy a case of beer in DC or MD (or anywhere) and bring it home to VA?




Importing Alcoholic Beverages
No more than one gallon of alcoholic beverages (or the metric equivalent) may be brought into Virginia from outside the Commonwealth, excepting shipments to the commission or its licensees, or new residents under special permits.

Anyone who transports more than such quantity of alcoholic beverages per adult in possession of the bonafide owner may be arrested, fined up to $2,500, and sentenced to a year in jail. In addition, the vehicle involved may be impounded and confiscated.

Alcoholic beverages includes wine, beer, or distilled spirits. This restriction applies not only to those alcoholic beverages brought into Virginia from other states or the District of Columbia, but also from defense installations.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 06, 2012, 12:28:59 pm
it is here

(http://thebeersessions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/founders-imperial-stout.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 06, 2012, 12:43:43 pm
still have three of my four from last year. good stuff, we'll get around to drinking it at some point!

Quote from: walkonby on January 06, 2012, 12:28:59 pm
it is here

(http://thebeersessions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/founders-imperial-stout.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2012, 01:01:54 pm
James, I wonder how many of your beers are spoiled?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 01:38:21 pm
Elbow to launch their own beer
Build a Rocket Boys!, named after the band's most recent album, boasts a 'rounded body, smooth bitterness and fruity aroma'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jul/13/elbow-launch-own-beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 06, 2012, 01:45:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 06, 2012, 01:01:54 pm
James, I wonder how many of your beers are spoiled?

Likely none.  He seems to have a good handle on that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 06, 2012, 01:46:59 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 06, 2012, 12:28:59 pm
it is here

(http://thebeersessions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/founders-imperial-stout.jpg)

Is this next in line for "the beer so rare that I'll never get my hands on it"?  Is a trip to Va going to net me nothing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 01:52:37 pm
any place in falls church that might carry founders?  looks like i'll be swinging by there on saturday.  i'll be checking out TJ to see if they have any of their unibroue-made anniversary ale left.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 01:53:24 pm
question: is it better to store/condition bottles upright, or laying on their side?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 06, 2012, 02:39:16 pm
You do realize you're only legally allowed to transport 64 ozs of beer back to Maryland, right?

http://www.mbbwl.org/facts/myth_vs_fact/myth_outofstate


Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 01:52:37 pm
any place in falls church that might carry founders?  looks like i'll be swinging by there on saturday.  i'll be checking out TJ to see if they have any of their unibroue-made anniversary ale left.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 06, 2012, 02:40:50 pm
upright, in the opinion of beer advocate.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/101/store

Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 01:53:24 pm
question: is it better to store/condition bottles upright, or laying on their side?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 03:11:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 06, 2012, 02:39:16 pm
You do realize you're only legally allowed to transport 64 ozs of beer back to Maryland, right?

http://www.mbbwl.org/facts/myth_vs_fact/myth_outofstate


Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 01:52:37 pm
any place in falls church that might carry founders?  looks like i'll be swinging by there on saturday.  i'll be checking out TJ to see if they have any of their unibroue-made anniversary ale left.

woohoo!  i guess that makes me a modern-day al capone.  boy am i in trouble... to think of my quarterly visits to TJ's when i stock up with 20+ bottles of wine.

seriously tho, i've never heard of anyone being arrested for this.  seems to me that this is an old law that is on the books but no one enforces unless an opportunity is presented (i.e. you get in a crash, and police see bottles in your vehicle - that it, if the cops are even aware of this law).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 06, 2012, 03:28:36 pm
It's 128 oz in VA (per person), five cases of 12 oz beers in CA, two six packs in WA. Seems to vary quite a bit by state.

Ignorance is bliss. i've been over the limit on both domestic and international flights.

What should I do on my upcoming international trip (Germany, Belgium., Holland)? I've read that you're supposed the declare what you have to Customs, and that you're taxed for anything over a paltry liter. And that Customs is supposed to enforce whatever the state limit is ($2500 penalty in VA if you're over you limit) Does this ever actually get enforced???

I was planning on going over that limit. Wonder if I should make an "honest" underestimation that hits the maximum legal limit? It's not like they'd go into my luggage and start counting bottles, especially after i was "honest" in the first place, right?


Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 03:11:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 06, 2012, 02:39:16 pm
You do realize you're only legally allowed to transport 64 ozs of beer back to Maryland, right?

http://www.mbbwl.org/facts/myth_vs_fact/myth_outofstate


Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 01:52:37 pm
any place in falls church that might carry founders?  looks like i'll be swinging by there on saturday.  i'll be checking out TJ to see if they have any of their unibroue-made anniversary ale left.

woohoo!  i guess that makes me a modern-day al capone.  boy am i in trouble... to think of my quarterly visits to TJ's when i stock up with 20+ bottles of wine.

seriously tho, i've never heard of anyone being arrested for this.  seems to me that this is an old law that is on the books but no one enforces unless an opportunity is presented (i.e. you get in a crash, and police see bottles in your vehicle - that it, if the cops are even aware of this law).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 03:48:53 pm
i recently returned from south of the border and someone in our party may or may not have brought back more than the 1-bottle-limit of delicious, delicious anejo tequila in their luggage.  they possibly declared only one bottle, and customs potentially didn't check and may even have waived them through.

maybe.  not sayin' it definitely happened.  ymmv.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2012, 04:09:00 pm
I brought back  eight bottles of wine from Italy and had no problemos.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 06, 2012, 05:08:28 pm
u should be able to track some down in DC

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 06, 2012, 01:46:59 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 06, 2012, 12:28:59 pm
it is here

(http://thebeersessions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/founders-imperial-stout.jpg)

Is this next in line for "the beer so rare that I'll never get my hands on it"?  Is a trip to Va going to net me nothing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on January 06, 2012, 05:17:05 pm
So, apparently Hopslam has started shipping, but Bells didn't provide any information on what states/areas are getting it any day now and which ones are on the agenda for later this month into February.

Has anyone started making the calls yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 06, 2012, 05:54:09 pm
The DC tip is a good idea.  I guess my question should have been whether this is mass-produced enough to be easily obtained in DC or VA and then transported back to MD (64 ounces or less, of course  ::) )
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 06, 2012, 07:34:26 pm
The Fairfax Whole Foods reports having it, and having more than in previous years. Hence, no limit on amount you can purchase like in previous years. Springfield Whole Foods has it. Rick's has it (with a one four pack limit).

My question is: Is it worth $12.99/four pack when you can get Old Rasputin for $7.99? I'm doing a vertical tomorrow with a 2011 FIS vs. 2011 Old Rasputin and will report back.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 06, 2012, 05:54:09 pm
The DC tip is a good idea.  I guess my question should have been whether this is mass-produced enough to be easily obtained in DC or VA and then transported back to MD (64 ounces or less, of course  ::) )
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2012, 07:47:49 pm
James,

Do you put a thermometer in your beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 06, 2012, 08:45:29 pm
Not if it's beer in my daughter's ass.

J/K

No, can't day i do. Though i do like my barleywines warmish and my pale ales coldish.

Quote from: Yada on January 06, 2012, 07:47:49 pm
James,

Do you put a thermometer in your beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 09:49:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 06, 2012, 07:34:26 pm
My question is: Is it worth $12.99/four pack

total wine quoted me $10 for a 4-pack of FIS.  dude was pretty chill about availability and said there wasn't a reason to rush in tonight, so i'll be picking some up tomorrow or sunday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 07, 2012, 11:18:11 am
its my sense that there is more in the DC market than last year.Last year it disappeared almost instantly - this year stores seem to have plenty. I am picking some up at Magruders today

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 06, 2012, 05:54:09 pm
The DC tip is a good idea.  I guess my question should have been whether this is mass-produced enough to be easily obtained in DC or VA and then transported back to MD (64 ounces or less, of course  ::) )
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 07, 2012, 04:33:51 pm
Taste test results:

Old Rasputin good, FIS better. Both pair well with brie and baguette.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 07, 2012, 04:58:54 pm
just got back from my first 2012 beer purchases.  i love beer buying days.  i smile as i pay the kind man behind the counter.  too much to name now, but i did pick up one rasputin to taste, and they had the founders imperial stout.  drinking my first beer of the night right now.  yum.  never heard of it before, so i said what the hell:

(http://northcoastbrewing.com/images/brand-BroThelo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 07, 2012, 09:17:16 pm
That's good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 07, 2012, 09:18:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 07, 2012, 04:33:51 pm
Taste test results:

Old Rasputin good, FIS better.

Enough to justify the additional cost?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 08, 2012, 12:01:13 am
Turned out to only be a $2 difference at my Whole Foods. $10.99 vs. $8.99. So i'd say yes. It's not like you're going to be buying several cases of the stuff anyway. Well, maybe walkonby would...

Plus, Old Rasputin is a year round. Get your FIS now, or wait another 12 months.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 07, 2012, 09:18:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 07, 2012, 04:33:51 pm
Taste test results:

Old Rasputin good, FIS better.

Enough to justify the additional cost?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: redsock on January 08, 2012, 01:51:07 pm
Finally had Dogfish's Pearl Jam 20 ale, it was pretty good, i may have to run out and get another bottle or two. I also picked up the Life and Limb collab between dogfish and sierra nevada. Anyone tried?

Different topic, anyone use an iphone app to track beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 08, 2012, 07:02:51 pm
FIS was $9.99 at total wine.  i bought 3 packs, will be tasting one shortly and banishing the other 11 to the cellar (my basement actually has something that could pass for a cellar: enclosed stairs that once led up to the backyard before an extension was built on top of them.  dark, stable temp, multi-leveled and has a door - decent spot to store bottles).  also got some flying fish grand cru winter reserve, will also taste tonight to determine if it should be enjoyed now or later.  at TJ's, i picked up 8 bottles of Vintage 2011*.  they had tastings in the store, so my stash is going straight to the basement.  i look forward to tasting one every 6 months and observing how it develops over the years.  finally, bought some TJ dunkleweizen as my game-time stand-by.  all in all a great day in beer acquisition ;D

yesterday was my first time ever at a total wine.  fricken hell.  good thing i was there for a specific purchase (FIS) which limited how much i could spend on other bottles, 'cause boy could i do some damage there.

*at $5/bottle, james pointed out that it works out to be the same price per volume as most unibroue 4-packs.  the reasons i decided to stick with the vintage'11: 1) i read that larger bottles develop more than smaller ones, 2) the tasting made me think that this one will age particularly nicely, and 3) it's a limited release - i can get other unibroue offerings anytime.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 09, 2012, 04:48:13 pm
my recent trip to the beer store in the country garnerned me this

kronenbourg   1664 (said why not . . . it is from france.  ok.)

north coast brewing  american art series  brother thelonious  (yum)

allagash  triple ale  (i like this brewery, for everything has been good)

mikkeller  simcoe single hop ipa  (interesting and darn gosh differently nice)

spaten  optimator  (ok)  glad i only got got one bottle to taste

dogfish head  raison d'etre  (awesome)  dogfish head is awesome . . . i just noticed.

lagunitas  little sumpin  sumpin ale  (i like the purty lady on the bottle and the beer is great)

bell's  amber  (horrible, stay away)

north coast brewing  old rasputin imperial stout  (bought one bottle to taste . . . and am in love.  i am floating over into darker beers)

   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 09, 2012, 05:03:55 pm
I've actually had all of those, and pretty much agree with your assessments.

Kronenbourg and Stella Artois are the Budweisers of Western Europe.

Quote from: walkonby on January 09, 2012, 04:48:13 pm
my recent trip to the beer store in the country garnerned me this

kronenbourg   1664 (said why not . . . it is from france.  ok.)

north coast brewing  american art series  brother thelonious  (yum)

allagash  triple ale  (i like this brewery, for everything has been good)

mikkeller  simcoe single hop ipa  (interesting and darn gosh differently nice)

spaten  optimator  (ok)  glad i only got got one bottle to taste

dogfish head  raison d'etre  (awesome)  dogfish head is awesome . . . i just noticed.

lagunitas  little sumpin  sumpin ale  (i like the purty lady on the bottle and the beer is great)

bell's  amber  (horrible, stay away)

north coast brewing  old rasputin imperial stout  (bought one bottle to taste . . . and am in love.  i am floating over into darker beers)

   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 09, 2012, 05:13:52 pm
Stella - like Fat Tire - is better out of the tap, IMO. I can't stand Stella in a bottle, whereas Fat Tire is tolerable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 09, 2012, 05:50:42 pm
Really enjoyed this offering at Pizzeria Paradiso in G'town on Saturday.  Get it while you can......

Stillwater Artisanal Ales & DC Brau's NATAS Collaboration Beer - NATAS is a Belgian Style Imperial Porter brewed with a traditional high gravity Abbey yeast. At first glance this brew is pitch black in the glass, with wafting aroma's of burnt sugar and caramelized fruit. The mouthfeel is silky smooth with hints of cocoa. It has a gentle, warming phenolic character that begs for a follow up inquiry. The hops are used to balance this brew and lend a subtle complexity. The dark lord himself would be proud to serve this hellish offering to his legions of demonic minions.


VITAL STATISTICS
Style: Belgian-Style Imperial Porter
Color: Midnight Black
ABV: 7.5%
Serving type: Draft-Only........Availability: Limited Release - December 2011........
description pulled from the "dc brau" site



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 11, 2012, 08:10:29 pm
In an effort to famliarize myself with German beers, I've tried these three this week:


AECHT SCHLENKERLA URBOCK ...a rauchbier, smoky in flavor, paired great with bbq tofu.

Schneider Aventinus...a weizenbock...draws favorable comparisons to Victory Moonglow (the only other weizenbock i've had, and which I like)...this one was just too sweet going in and too sour after it had gone down.

Ayinger Celebrator..this one (a doppelbock) rocked. Paired awesomely with the fire and smoke pizza at Matchbox. #1 German beer on beeradvocate.com, and I can see why. Heavy and malty, but not too sweet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 12, 2012, 02:22:17 am
quick update on my homebrewing situation:

Quote from: stevewizzle on November 10, 2011, 02:19:22 pm
How to brew is the best resource you can use to start. 

i read that, and charles papazian's "the complete joy of homebrewing" - i thought the latter was slightly better and easier to get through.  for a first book, "how to brew" got a tad too detailed at times.
 
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 10, 2011, 02:19:22 pm
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/ is a great forum, every question i've ever had has been answered at some point on this forum.


i've killed soooo many hours on that site over the past few weeks.  there is just so much to learn about brewing. 

Quote from: sweetcell on November 14, 2011, 05:27:33 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 10, 2011, 02:19:22 pm
Theres a home brew store in Falls Church (MLHBS) which is very helpful as well.  You could go in there and walk out with ingredients to start brewing right away. 

awesome, thanks for the input.  i will definitely have to swing by MLHBS (might even go tonight).  there is also The Flying Barrel in frederick that i've heard good things about. 

my first trip to purchase equipment was to MyLHBS in falls church.  the guys there were incredibly nice but a little dismissive.  having read tons and spoken with several people i knew exactly what i wanted to buy, but they were intent on steering me towards a plastic pail kit with somewhat cheap equipment.  it was weird - they were discouraging me from spending more money on fancier gear.  in the end their credit card machine didn't work, and it was late on a saturday (the staff were actively shutting down the store while i was trying to shop), so i left without buying anything.  wasn't the best way to start but i get where they were coming from: i'm sure they've seen a million noobs get in over their heads, so they were trying to "protect me from myself".  i appreciated the concern but it was misplaced. 

anyhoo, the next day i drove up to the flying barrel in frederick.  the place was at least 5 times bigger, huge selection, and much less crowded.  they let me putz around for an hour and answered all my questions before i bought anything.  another big plus for the FB was that they sell both grains and liquid malt extract in bulk.  bought all the equipment i need and ingredients for my first 2 batches.   unfortunately due to upcoming travel i won't be able to brew for another 2 weeks or so.  dangit.

i love the homebrew culture.  every single person i've met has been relaxed, welcoming, and willing to share their knowledge*.  i guess enough alcohol does that to a person ;D

*they have also all been bearded.  i'm learning that you can't be taken seriously as a brewer without copious facial hair.

Quote from: stevewizzle on November 21, 2011, 05:29:14 pm
best tip, which is commonly passed along for people starting off is, "Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew". 

amen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Stillwater on January 12, 2012, 03:30:06 am
Quote from: Bagley on January 09, 2012, 05:50:42 pm
Really enjoyed this offering at Pizzeria Paradiso in G'town on Saturday.  Get it while you can......

Stillwater Artisanal Ales & DC Brau's NATAS Collaboration Beer - NATAS is a Belgian Style Imperial Porter brewed with a traditional high gravity Abbey yeast. At first glance this brew is pitch black in the glass, with wafting aroma's of burnt sugar and caramelized fruit. The mouthfeel is silky smooth with hints of cocoa. It has a gentle, warming phenolic character that begs for a follow up inquiry. The hops are used to balance this brew and lend a subtle complexity. The dark lord himself would be proud to serve this hellish offering to his legions of demonic minions.


VITAL STATISTICS
Style: Belgian-Style Imperial Porter
Color: Midnight Black
ABV: 7.5%
Serving type: Draft-Only........Availability: Limited Release - December 2011........
description pulled from the "dc brau" site





That's pretty cool that they named a beer after the 930 forum's fantasy football champion...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 12, 2012, 12:59:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 12, 2012, 02:22:17 am
quick update on my homebrewing situation:


Fantastic! I was wondering if this was going to get buried and never heard from again.

Quote from: sweetcell on January 12, 2012, 02:22:17 am
i read that, and charles papazian's "the complete joy of homebrewing" - i thought the latter was slightly better and easier to get through.  for a first book, "how to brew" got a tad too detailed at times.


The "other" bible.  My first brew was from this book, and concur that it's easier to get through.  How to brew is better for detailed answers on processes, and Charlie's book is best for complete overview.  Follow him on twitter, he always has real brief articles he writes about simple, but important topics.

Quote from: stevewizzle on November 10, 2011, 02:19:22 pm
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/ is a great forum, every question i've ever had has been answered at some point on this forum.


Quote from: sweetcell on November 14, 2011, 05:27:33 pm
i've killed soooo many hours on that site over the past few weeks.  there is just so much to learn about brewing. 


The thing I enjoy most is the common understanding that everyone does things a little bit different.  I've learned countless small improvements from this site.  Primary for 3 weeks for an IPA and dry hop, no secondary clarification? Why not!

Quote from: sweetcell on November 14, 2011, 05:27:33 pm
my first trip to purchase equipment was to MyLHBS in falls church.  the guys there were incredibly nice but a little dismissive.  having read tons and spoken with several people i knew exactly what i wanted to buy, but they were intent on steering me towards a plastic pail kit with somewhat cheap equipment.  it was weird - they were discouraging me from spending more money on fancier gear.  in the end their credit card machine didn't work, and it was late on a saturday (the staff were actively shutting down the store while i was trying to shop), so i left without buying anything.  wasn't the best way to start but i get where they were coming from: i'm sure they've seen a million noobs get in over their heads, so they were trying to "protect me from myself".  i appreciated the concern but it was misplaced. 

anyhoo, the next day i drove up to the flying barrel in frederick.  the place was at least 5 times bigger, huge selection, and much less crowded.  they let me putz around for an hour and answered all my questions before i bought anything.  another big plus for the FB was that they sell both grains and liquid malt extract in bulk.  bought all the equipment i need and ingredients for my first 2 batches.   unfortunately due to upcoming travel i won't be able to brew for another 2 weeks or so.  dangit.

i love the homebrew culture.  every single person i've met has been relaxed, welcoming, and willing to share their knowledge*.  i guess enough alcohol does that to a person ;D

*they have also all been bearded.  i'm learning that you can't be taken seriously as a brewer without copious facial hair.


Ahhh MyLHBS.  I've learned to love their quirky approach to running that shop.  Saturday is a brutal day for them, especially towards the end of the day. For me - The reason I give them business, is when you're shopping, you can tell they are making sure what you're doing makes sense.  They are going through the steps in there head, making sure the ingredients, the hops, the yeast, the malts all are there and make sense together.  I asked for 3# of crystal malt from them, and they immediately stopped me and said "for one brew?", and that's where we clarified that it's two brews and some will be left over.  Small things like that are appreciated.

Good to hear about the Frederick store, I've never been up there.  Will have to check it out shortly.  What did you brew for your first two?  Sounds like you peiced together all the ingredients yourself, which is the best way to do it.  We are also on a brewing hold, switching apartments, so it'll be another month before we get something fermenting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 12, 2012, 03:09:48 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 12, 2012, 12:59:36 pm
What did you brew for your first two?  Sounds like you peiced together all the ingredients yourself, which is the best way to do it.  We are also on a brewing hold, switching apartments, so it'll be another month before we get something fermenting.

all that purchasing went down just last weekend and i got back home from frederick too late to start so i haven't brewed anything yet.  i travel for work monday-thursday so my brewing has to happen on weekends.  next weekend i won't be coming home at all so i'll be away for 11 days, so i can't brew this weekend either.  i won't be able to start my first batch until after thursday 1/26.  it's killing me to know that everything is waiting at home for me, but i can't touch it... grr.  i was hoping to have something ready for my super bowl party but that won't happen.

my chosen first brew will be will be inspired by [edit] papazian's "who's the in garden grand cru" (an all-extract clone of hoegaarden's grand cru).  it calls for a few fancy ingredients but is no more complicated than any other all-extract recipe - in other words, a good (and hopefully tasty!) place to start.  second batch will be a belgian strong ale (OG listed at 1.083, but i might trim back a little).  it's a pre-boil crystal + extract recipe that i found online. 

lemme know if you're swinging by rockville any time late february onwards, you'd be most welcome to come over for a tasting ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 12, 2012, 03:44:41 pm
i feel as though i stepped into a bad pbs episode of . . . "this old brew."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 12, 2012, 04:02:16 pm
come over to the dark side, walkies... we have beer ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on January 13, 2012, 03:28:15 am
I just tried out the Starr Hill Monticello Reserve. Very fragrant but I did enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 13, 2012, 09:40:12 am
Hopslam on draft and cask @churchkey Jan 31

Worth the heaving crowds and frenzy: probably not
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 13, 2012, 09:53:42 am
In other words...

See you there?

Quote from: brennser on January 13, 2012, 09:40:12 am
Hopslam on draft and cask @churchkey Jan 31

Worth the heaving crowds and frenzy: probably not
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 13, 2012, 11:14:50 am
most likely not - I love me some hopslam but that whole leave work at 3.30, to get there by 4 to get 1 glass of it before it kicks at 4.15 kinda thing is getting a little old - or maybe I'm just getting old  :D

Quote from: James Ford on January 13, 2012, 09:53:42 am
In other words...

See you there?

Quote from: brennser on January 13, 2012, 09:40:12 am
Hopslam on draft and cask @churchkey Jan 31

Worth the heaving crowds and frenzy: probably not
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 13, 2012, 11:21:25 am
Plus, it's fairly readily available on draft elsewhere at later dates.
I had it at two separate locations last year with no crowds and could have had more...

Quote from: brennser on January 13, 2012, 11:14:50 am
most likely not - I love me some hopslam but that whole leave work at 3.30, to get there by 4 to get 1 glass of it before it kicks at 4.15 kinda thing is getting a little old - or maybe I'm just getting old  :D

Quote from: James Ford on January 13, 2012, 09:53:42 am
In other words...

See you there?

Quote from: brennser on January 13, 2012, 09:40:12 am
Hopslam on draft and cask @churchkey Jan 31

Worth the heaving crowds and frenzy: probably not
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 18, 2012, 05:39:06 pm
America's 100 Best Beer Bars  (http://draftmag.com/features/americas-100-best-beer-bars-2012/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 18, 2012, 06:00:19 pm
Quote from: Shemp on January 18, 2012, 05:39:06 pm
America's 100 Best Beer Bars  (http://draftmag.com/features/americas-100-best-beer-bars-2012/)

people go to bars for beer?  how odd.  i just drink it at home and save the trip, the money, the hassle of annoying people staring at you or thinking you are staring at them, music i don't want to listen to, a bathroom that is horrible, and having them throw me out for breaking out a joint.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 18, 2012, 06:03:12 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 18, 2012, 06:00:19 pm
Quote from: Shemp on January 18, 2012, 05:39:06 pm
America's 100 Best Beer Bars  (http://draftmag.com/features/americas-100-best-beer-bars-2012/)

people go to bars for beer?  how odd.  i just drink it at home and save the trip, the money, the hassle of annoying people staring at you or thinking you are staring at them, music i don't want to listen to, a bathroom that is horrible, and having them throw me out for breaking out a joint.

You're fun, partner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 18, 2012, 06:06:28 pm
i'll rock . . . your underworld.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 18, 2012, 06:10:27 pm
i've managed to make it to 9 of the 100.  not bad.  churchkey still wins, and bier baron's appeal doesn't seem to be there for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 18, 2012, 06:25:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 18, 2012, 06:10:27 pm
i've managed to make it to 9 of the 100.  not bad.  churchkey still wins, and bier baron's appeal doesn't seem to be there for me.

I'm at the same number.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 19, 2012, 05:37:34 pm
selection of taps where (http://www.beerknurd.com/stores/addison/) i'll be having dinner tonight:

Troubadour Stout
Southern Star Le Mort Vivant
Maui Double Overhead IPA
Lagunitas Doppleweizen
Sierra Nevada Bigfoot
Unibroue Maudite
Rahr Iron Thistle
Victory Storm King CASK
St. Arnold's Winter Stout
Avery New World Porter
Avery Hog Heaven
Avery Maharaja

to boot, tonight is "rare tap night" and they'll be tapping Avery's Beast.  i'll def be getting on on that, as well as the maharaja.  any others y'all recommend? 

correction: nevermind, the above list are their new arrivals only.  they've got a ton more regular taps.  tough decisions ahead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on January 19, 2012, 08:56:08 pm
Sweets, gettin' drunk for the cause.  :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 19, 2012, 09:14:44 pm
wow went to the website and saw the complete list. f'ing amazing. of of the list below, I'd pick the Bigfoot and the Maharaja. Though I get barleywines and imperial ipa's aren't your thing.

Quote from: sweetcell on January 19, 2012, 05:37:34 pm
selection of taps where (http://www.beerknurd.com/stores/addison/) i'll be having dinner tonight:

Troubadour Stout
Southern Star Le Mort Vivant
Maui Double Overhead IPA
Lagunitas Doppleweizen
Sierra Nevada Bigfoot
Unibroue Maudite
Rahr Iron Thistle
Victory Storm King CASK
St. Arnold's Winter Stout
Avery New World Porter
Avery Hog Heaven
Avery Maharaja

to boot, tonight is "rare tap night" and they'll be tapping Avery's Beast.  i'll def be getting on on that, as well as the maharaja.  any others y'all recommend? 

correction: nevermind, the above list are their new arrivals only.  they've got a ton more regular taps.  tough decisions ahead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 22, 2012, 02:37:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 19, 2012, 09:14:44 pm
wow went to the website and saw the complete list. f'ing amazing. of of the list below, I'd pick the Bigfoot and the Maharaja. Though I get barleywines and imperial ipa's aren't your thing.

i can definitely get down to a good barleywine, and i'll entertain an IIPA for at least one glass.  i have increased my appreciation (tolerance? ;D) for hops, but i still think 100+ IBU beers are crimes again palates.  it's the beer equivalent of "suicide wings".  anyone can over-do it, it's not subtle, it's not fancy.

anyhoo, ended up having a great time at the flying saucer.  they have have a make-your-own-flight deal which allowed me to taste all sorts of goodness.  the bartender even let me choose all premium beers, even though the rules state that you're only supposed to pick on.  here's what i tasted, from least to most liked:
- avery beast: i'm sure a bottle of this would be amazing once cellared for 3+ years, but fresh it's not enjoyable.  it starts off as a deep complex belgian but that's quickly bulldozed by sharp alcohol/paint thinner.  it's a small piece of candy followed by a shot of 100-proof grain alcohol.  a total tease.  would not order again.
- troubador stout: disappointing.  burnt caramel flavors resulted in an unpleasant tang.
- st arnold winter stout: eh.  kinda watery and too smooth.
- great divide chocolate yeti: menu said this one would be spicy, but other than some hints of licorice i didn't get much in that direction.  fairly strong alcohol taste.  t'was ok overall.  this was the last beer i tasted so my palate was likely shot by then.
- bigfoot, per mr. ford's recommendation: had a nice creamy feel to it but not as hoppy as i had expected.  quite enjoyable.
- lagunitas dopplweizen: a very nice hoppy & malty wheat.  really liked it.
- avery maharaja: the "perfect" IPA?  (yes, i know it's a IIPA).  seemed to embody the style in a classic way.  very tasty, complex, although i don't know if i'd be able to enjoy more than a pint at a time (i only had a 4 oz taster).

Quote from: Jaguar on January 19, 2012, 08:56:08 pm
Sweets, gettin' drunk for the cause.  :D

the things i do for my art... <insert dramatic sigh>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 24, 2012, 04:06:27 pm
Barleywine Festival
Mad Fox, Falls Church
2012 Festival Hours
February 11 11AM-Midnight

Featuring our own Barleywines as well as the best barleywines brewed by our favorite breweries. Beers will rotate through the festival on draught and cask, while they last. Serving sizes are 4 oz. sample glasses. No admission, price per serving.

Beer List
We'll update our beer list as Barleywines arrive. See last year's beer list for examples of our offerings.

On hand:

?Mad Fox Slobberknocker Barleywine 2012 Draught 8% ABV
?Mad Fox Oaked Slobberknocker Barleywine 2011 Draught 8% ABV
?Mad Fox Headknocker Barleywine 2012 Draught 8% ABV
?Mad Fox Headknocker Barleywine 2012 Cask 8% ABV
?Avery Hog Heaven Barleywine 2011 Draught 9.2% ABV
?Dogfish Head Olde School Barleywine 2010 Draught 15% ABV
?Founders Old Curmudgeon 2011 Draught 9.8% ABV
?Heavy Seas Below Decks English-style Barleywine 2010 Draught 10% ABV
?Heavy Seas Below Decks English-style Barleywine 2011 Draught 10% ABV
?Heavy Seas Below Decks English-style Barleywine - Barrel-aged 2011 Draught 10% ABV
?Hebrew Genesis 2011 Draught
?Hebrew Jewbelation 2011 Cask 11% ABV
?JW Lees Harvest Ale 2010 Cask 11.5% ABV
?Lagunitas Olde GnarleyWine 2011 Draught 10.6% ABV
?Left Hand Widdershins Barleywine Draught 10% ABV
?Schlafly Oak-Aged Barleywine Draught 10.2% ABV
?Schloss Eggenburg Samiclaus 2011 Draught 14% ABV
?Sierra Nevada Bigfoot 2010 Draught 9.6% ABV
?Terrapin Beer Company/Brasserie Franches Montagnes Spike & Jeromes Cuvée Délirante, Rum Barrel-Aged Rye Barleywine 2010 Draught 12%+ ABV
?Victory Old Horizontal 2011 Draught 10.5% ABV
Ordered:

?Blue Point Old Howling Bastard Barleywine Draught 10% ABV
?Bluegrass Bearded Pat's Barleywine Draught 11% ABV
?Brooklyn Brewing Monster Ale Draught 10.3% ABV
?Climax Brewing Company Barleywine Draught 10% ABV
?Corp Mort A L'abri De La Tempête Draught 9% ABV
?Duck Rabbit Barleywine Draught 11% ABV
?Green Flash Barleywine Draught 10.9% ABV
?Sierra Nevada Special Limited Release - TBD
?Stone Old Guardian Draught 12% ABV
Food

Mad Fox will have it's usual Menu options with some exciting Barleywine Fest Specials.

Saturday
11AM-11PM - Full Menu
11PM-Midnight - Late night menu with pizzas, sandwiches and salads

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 24, 2012, 05:03:44 pm
Shhhh. Keep it quiet. A certain much hyped beer is hitting DC and VA store shelves today and tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 24, 2012, 05:40:52 pm
does it start with "h" and end with "opslam"?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on January 25, 2012, 01:48:04 am
Personally I think it's become overpriced as well as overhyped. $22/6 pack @ Total and $26 @ Whole Foods!
I saw that and went to pick up the remaining 12 of Suck Leftovers from another store for less.
I'll just catch it on tap somewhere.

They should give discounts on food or something for designated drivers at the Barleywine Fest. That's a lot of high ABV!  The Terrapin joint has piqued my interest. I've always enjoyed their Rye Barleywine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 08:08:59 am
I did the same thing...bought two extra sixers of Sucks at less than half the price of hopslam. Cutting down my hopslam purchases from three sixers to one this year.

At least they are doing the barleywine fest in 4 oz pours. Bring your partner to split the pours and you can still try quite a bit!

Quote from: slappy on January 25, 2012, 01:48:04 am
Personally I think it's become overpriced as well as overhyped. $22/6 pack @ Total and $26 @ Whole Foods!
I saw that and went to pick up the remaining 12 of Suck Leftovers from another store for less.
I'll just catch it on tap somewhere.

They should give discounts on food or something for designated drivers at the Barleywine Fest. That's a lot of high ABV!  The Terrapin joint has piqued my interest. I've always enjoyed their Rye Barleywine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on January 25, 2012, 10:18:19 am
It can't be said enough how great Sucks is.  Snagged the last two sixers from Rick's about a week ago.  Love that stuff.

Quote from: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 08:08:59 am
I did the same thing...bought two extra sixers of Sucks at less than half the price of hopslam. Cutting down my hopslam purchases from three sixers to one this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 25, 2012, 10:31:51 am
Quote from: nkotb on January 25, 2012, 10:18:19 am
It can't be said enough how great Sucks is.  Snagged the last two sixers from Rick's about a week ago.  Love that stuff.

Quote from: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 08:08:59 am
I did the same thing...bought two extra sixers of Sucks at less than half the price of hopslam. Cutting down my hopslam purchases from three sixers to one this year.

I agree... my favorite brew of the season.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 25, 2012, 10:54:50 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/all-we-can-eat/post/parisi-named-head-beermaker-for-nrgs-new-brewery/2012/01/24/gIQAJ9DsNQ_blog.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 25, 2012, 12:42:34 pm
They are brewing a second batch of Sucks, aren't they?

I'm a hopslam virgin.  Looking forward to seeing what the hype is all about. 

Also, that barleywine event looks fantastic.  bummer mad fox isn't metro-accessible, will need to find a dd for that one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on January 25, 2012, 01:22:19 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 25, 2012, 12:42:34 pm
They are brewing a second batch of Sucks, aren't they?
They did back in late December. What's available now is the last of it for the year.
Lagunitas ran into trouble expanding their operation. They had a giant new tank coming from Germany that was damaged in a hurricane on the way over by a crane on the ship.
(http://p.twimg.com/AgQNu7mCMAAwx_f.jpg:large)

A new one is on the way but their operations are reduced for a few months. The cool part is the new owners of Anchor are working on a collaborative IPA with them in the mean time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Mobius on January 25, 2012, 01:46:59 pm
Quote from: Shemp on January 18, 2012, 05:39:06 pm
America's 100 Best Beer Bars  (http://draftmag.com/features/americas-100-best-beer-bars-2012/)

Huge oversight not to include the Pony Bar in Hell's Kitchen NYC (45th and 10th)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 02:06:52 pm
And if I were limited to only two picks for the entire DC area, I sure wouldn't have used one of them in Bier Baron.

Brouwers Cafe is without a doubt the best beer bar in Seattle and it was left off the list as well.


Quote from: Mobius on January 25, 2012, 01:46:59 pm
Quote from: Shemp on January 18, 2012, 05:39:06 pm
America's 100 Best Beer Bars  (http://draftmag.com/features/americas-100-best-beer-bars-2012/)

Huge oversight not to include the Pony Bar in Hell's Kitchen NYC (45th and 10th)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 25, 2012, 02:16:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 02:06:52 pm
And if I were limited to only two picks for the entire DC area, I sure wouldn't have used one of them in Bier Baron.

Brouwers Cafe is without a doubt the best beer bar in Seattle and it was left off the list as well.


Quote from: Mobius on January 25, 2012, 01:46:59 pm
Quote from: Shemp on January 18, 2012, 05:39:06 pm
America's 100 Best Beer Bars  (http://draftmag.com/features/americas-100-best-beer-bars-2012/)

Huge oversight not to include the Pony Bar in Hell's Kitchen NYC (45th and 10th)

Haven't even stepped foot in the Bier Baron. Is it basically the Skellar renovated?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 02:18:46 pm
To be honest, neither have I  ;)

I did read something to the effect of what you said. But if someone can point out some good reasons to go when there's a Pizza Paradiso around the corner, i'm all ears.


Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2012, 02:16:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 02:06:52 pm
And if I were limited to only two picks for the entire DC area, I sure wouldn't have used one of them in Bier Baron.

Brouwers Cafe is without a doubt the best beer bar in Seattle and it was left off the list as well.


Quote from: Mobius on January 25, 2012, 01:46:59 pm
Quote from: Shemp on January 18, 2012, 05:39:06 pm
America's 100 Best Beer Bars  (http://draftmag.com/features/americas-100-best-beer-bars-2012/)

Huge oversight not to include the Pony Bar in Hell's Kitchen NYC (45th and 10th)

Haven't even stepped foot in the Bier Baron. Is it basically the Skellar renovated?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 02:21:41 pm
Hopslam $26 at Whole Foods in DC. Hopslam $20 at Whole Foods in the burbs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on January 25, 2012, 02:23:17 pm
$22 with tax at Rick's.

Quote from: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 02:21:41 pm
Hopslam $26 at Whole Foods in DC. Hopslam $20 at Whole Foods in the burbs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 25, 2012, 02:49:40 pm
That is crazy.  That beer is not worth that price at all!  It is good though, but not that good.

Finally had Founders Breakfast Stout over the weekend.  Tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2012, 02:54:10 pm
wasn't canadian breakfast stout selling for $18-20 for a 750 ml bottle, i.e. the equivalent of two regular 12 oz bottles?   that makes hopslam a bargain: you're getting 3 times as much for about the same price! ;D
 
if anyone hears about it on tap anywhere, please let us know.  might be the only way i'll end up trying this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 02:56:46 pm
REally? I still think it's a good value when you compare it to comparable double IPA's.

I'm talking about $13 750 bombers of FFF Dreadnaught, $7 500 ml bottles of Pliny the Elder, $20 for a four pack of Founders Devil Dancer......and well, what other double IPA's are really comparable to Hopslam?


Quote from: K8teebug on January 25, 2012, 02:49:40 pm
That is crazy.  That beer is not worth that price at all!  It is good though, but not that good.

Finally had Founders Breakfast Stout over the weekend.  Tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 25, 2012, 02:58:04 pm
yes exactly. won't be buying another one of those at that price!

Other than the big shindig at Churchkey, haven't heard of any keg tappings yet.

Quote from: sweetcell on January 25, 2012, 02:54:10 pm
wasn't canadian breakfast stout selling for $18-20 for a 750 ml bottle, i.e. the equivalent of two regular 12 oz bottles?   that makes hopslam a bargain: you're getting 3 times as much for about the same price! ;D
 
if anyone hears about it on tap anywhere, please let us know.  might be the only way i'll end up trying this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 25, 2012, 06:24:27 pm
Just dropped $23+ for a six o' slam at Magruder's Chevy Chase.  Got lotsa other good stuff too ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 25, 2012, 07:51:13 pm
$8 a pint at meridian pint this evening...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2012, 12:20:09 pm
tapping here this evening...

http://www.louscitybar.com/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 27, 2012, 09:08:00 am
I cringe in posting this, but since there are probably more hipsters on the board than beer lovers...

Friday 1-Day Deal. PBR. Regular price is $8.99, but for just Friday they are $5.99/12pk. Whole Foods.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 27, 2012, 09:15:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 27, 2012, 09:08:00 am
I cringe in posting this, but since there are probably more hipsters on the board than beer lovers...

Friday 1-Day Deal. PBR. Regular price is $8.99, but for just Friday they are $5.99/12pk. Whole Foods.

My ass pities the person who drinks PBR at home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 27, 2012, 10:25:50 am
Quote from: Yada on January 27, 2012, 09:15:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 27, 2012, 09:08:00 am
I cringe in posting this, but since there are probably more hipsters on the board than beer lovers...

Friday 1-Day Deal. PBR. Regular price is $8.99, but for just Friday they are $5.99/12pk. Whole Foods.

My ass pities the person who drinks PBR at home.

ditto.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 30, 2012, 12:13:16 pm
Blact Cat, Black Cat tapping Hopslam today
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 01, 2012, 02:47:32 pm
C'mon guys. There more good beer in New England than just Smuttynose.

UTICA, N.Y.?The Democratic senators from New York and New Hampshire are betting some of their states' finest craft brews on the outcome of the Super Bowl on Sunday.

If the New England Patriots prevail, New York Sen. Charles Schumer will buy New Hampshire's Smuttynose beer for every member of the Senate. If the New York Giants win, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen must offer her colleagues beer from six New York breweries -- Brown's, Brooklyn, Blue Point, Saranac, Captain Lawrence and Ithaca.

Schumer used the occasion of the friendly wager Tuesday to tout his "I Love NY Brew" campaign.

He's pushing to expand New York brewers' market share so that they can grow their business and hire more employees. The industry currently supports nearly 60,000 New York jobs.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 01, 2012, 04:22:43 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 30, 2012, 12:13:16 pm
Blact Cat, Black Cat tapping Hopslam today
amusingly enough while there was a near riot at Churckey yesterday to get Hopslam, its been on tap for 3 days just 4 blocks up the street at Black Cat and still hasn;t kicked yet - guess those hipsters just like PBR
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 01, 2012, 04:36:35 pm
people who go to churckey . . . must think you will shot at the black cat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on February 02, 2012, 06:03:59 pm
Those must be the four longest blocks in DC because it sure seems a lot longer than 4 blocks when I walk past the Black Cat to Churchkey and then back to Black Cat for a show. :)

I had a bottle of Ommegang Abbey Ale recently and thought it was very good:
(http://www.notempire.com/images/uploads/ommegang-chicagoist.jpg)

Nice deep color and lots of malts.

Just as a comparison, I'm a big fan of St. Bernardus Prior 8, Abt 12, et al., which are some of my favorites of this style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 03, 2012, 05:12:51 pm
Anyone been/going?

: MAX'S ANNUAL BELGIAN BEER FEST 2012
FEB 17-19, 2012
11am to close each day
NO ENTRNACE FEE
Over 100 Belgian beers on draft at all times
Over 175 Belgian beers in Bottles & a full Belgian inspired food menu


We will be add drafts as they come in.

DRAFTS: 80% DONE
Alvinne Gaspar
Alvinne Kerusus
Alvinne Morpheus Wild Undressed Monbazillac
Alvinne Morpheus Undressed
Alvinne Morpheus Wild w/ Blue boskoop Grapes
Blaugies Darbyste
Blaugies La Moneuse
Blaugies la Moneuse Special Winter
Blaugies Saison De Epeature
Boucanier Christmas
Cazeau Saison
De Dochter Van De Kornaar Belle Fluer
De Dolle Boskuen
De Dolle Dulle Teve
De Dochter Belle Fluer
De Garre Triple
De Glazen Toren Canaster
De Glazen Toren Jan De Lichte
De Glazen Toren Ondineke
De Glazen Toren Cuvee Angelquie Aged in Whiskey/Pinot Noir Barrels
De la Senne Taras Boulba
De la Senne Zinnebier
De Proef Draekenier
De Proef Flemish Primitive
De Proef KO
De Ranke Pere Noel
De Ranke Saison De Dottignies
Delirium Nocturnum
Delirium Tremens
Dupont Avec Les Bons Voeux
Dupont Beliol
Dupont Monks Stout
Dupont Posca Rustica
Duvel Single
Ellezolloise Hercule Stout
Ellezolloise Quintine Blonde
Ename Cuvee
geants Noel
Gouyasse Traditional
Gulden Draak 9000 Grand Cru
Hof Ten Dormaal Blonde
Hof Ten Dormaal White Gold
Hofbrouwerijke Hofblues
Jandrian Jandrenoulle IV Saison
Jandrian Jandrenoulle V Cense
Jandrian Jandrenoulle VI Wheat
Kerkom Bink Blossem
Kerkom Bink Blonde
Kerkom Bink Triple
La Rulles Cuvee
La Rulles Grand 10
Lefebvre Hopus
Leroy Christmas
Liefmans Oud Bruin
Malhuer 10
Malhuer 12
Malhuer 12 aged in Bourbon Barrels
Monks Cafe Flemish Sour
Nole De Silenrieux
Petrus Winter
Rodenbach Grand Cru
Sainte Helene La Grognarde
Sainte Helene Mistingguett
Schneldebrouwerij Lamme Goedzak
Schneldebrouwerij Oesterstout
Schneldebrouwerij Zeeupier
Serifjn Grand Cru
Silly Noel
Sint Canarus Triple
Slaapmutske Dry Hopped Lager
Slaapmutske Hop Collection East Kent
Slaapmutske Triple Night Cap
St Bernardus Christmas
St Feuillien Speciale
Struise/Stillwater Outblack
Struise Pannepot Grand Reserva
Struise Pannepot Reserva
Struise Tjseeses
Struise Tjseeses Reserva
Struise Svea IPA
Stillwater Jaded
Stillwater Rule of Thirds
Stillwater of Love & Regret
Strubbe Keyte Dubbel Triple
Strubbe Ictegems Grand cru
Tilquin Gueuze
Troubadour Magma Special Edition
St Feuillien Speciale
Petrus Winter

 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 03, 2012, 07:17:31 pm
Founders is coming to Maryland!   W00t!

http://beernews.org/2012/02/founders-brewing-expanding-to-maryland-projecting-75k-barrels-in-2012/

The brewery recently installed an additional 85 Barrel brewing system, which increased its capacity to 200,000 barrels per year and expects to produce 75,000 barrels in 2012. Locally, these beers can be found in Virginia and Washington D.C., with expansion into Maryland expected early this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 03, 2012, 07:28:32 pm
<does a happy dance>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 04, 2012, 01:08:51 pm
 ;D  Yay!  'Bout time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 04, 2012, 07:29:41 pm
new favourite brewery . . . north coast brewery.  too much founders and it loses its edge.  and man i still kick my self for missing out on st bernardus christmas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2012, 09:25:37 pm
Did anybody else get their $4 10 oz pour of hopslam at Birreria Paradiso in Georgetown tonight?

I'm guessing they'll have more tomorrow at their half price happy hour Tues. based on how empty they were tonight, and the fact that the people around me were drinking Cokes and Eggenberg Pils from a bottle at twice the price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2012, 10:16:47 pm
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/EureSGZXGjvML_uG1g8JxQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD05MTU7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/d3de7eb4bcee7303060f6a7067006e2b.jpg

(http://philadelphia.foobooz.com/files/2012/02/DFHcharlizetheron.jpg)

Charlize Theron has good taste in beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 06, 2012, 11:26:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 06, 2012, 10:16:47 pm
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/EureSGZXGjvML_uG1g8JxQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD05MTU7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/d3de7eb4bcee7303060f6a7067006e2b.jpg

(http://philadelphia.foobooz.com/files/2012/02/DFHcharlizetheron.jpg)

Charlize Theron has good taste in beer.

the brewing dorks over at homebrewtalk.com were all over this today:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2097207/Super-Bowl-2012-Charlize-Theron-hardly-breaks-sweat-carries-case-beer-party.html

bells + DFH - works for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 07, 2012, 08:44:14 am
First comments on that link:

If a woman as stunning as Charlize has to carry boxes of beer without any assistance from a man, than that goes to show you that it really is slim pickens out there! Why are these new breed of men so lazy?!
- Kara, San Francisco, 07/2/2012 06:09



Quote from: sweetcell on February 06, 2012, 11:26:54 pm

the brewing dorks over at homebrewtalk.com were all over this today:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2097207/Super-Bowl-2012-Charlize-Theron-hardly-breaks-sweat-carries-case-beer-party.html

bells + DFH - works for me.
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 07, 2012, 11:19:50 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 07, 2012, 08:44:14 am
First comments on that link:

If a woman as stunning as Charlize has to carry boxes of beer without any assistance from a man, than that goes to show you that it really is slim pickens out there! Why are these new breed of men so lazy?!
- Kara, San Francisco, 07/2/2012 06:09


well that's easy - she wasn't wearing makeup, therefore she wasn't pretty, consequently she deserved to be carrying her own beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 07, 2012, 01:19:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 06, 2012, 11:26:54 pm
bells + DFH - works for me.

2nd box is Belvedere Vodka but it should still work for you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 07, 2012, 03:01:42 pm
Top 20 craft breweries, by sales volume:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/top-20-craft-breweries_n_1238076.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 07, 2012, 03:34:27 pm
Quote from: grateful on February 07, 2012, 03:01:42 pm
Top 20 craft breweries, by sales volume:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/top-20-craft-breweries_n_1238076.html

James Ford doesn't approve of any of those brewers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 07, 2012, 04:19:17 pm
Quote from: grateful on February 07, 2012, 03:01:42 pm
Top 20 craft breweries, by sales volume:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/top-20-craft-breweries_n_1238076.html

While it's interesting, most craft breweries aren't in it for the highest sales volume. So there's really not much to gather from the list as a consumer; other than confirming these are the beers you might have to dig through to get to rarer more obscure stuff. (Which may or may not be better than some of the beers of the listed breweries.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 08, 2012, 02:04:39 pm
Whiny the Complainer  ;D
http://www.washingtonbeerblog.com/today-big-time-brewery-introduces-whiny-complainer/ (http://www.washingtonbeerblog.com/today-big-time-brewery-introduces-whiny-complainer/)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 13, 2012, 11:45:15 pm
beeradvocate.com is down.  i love how from the "503 Service Unavailable" error page there is a link back to beeradvocate.com... which leads to a 503 error.

i'm currently enjoying a Weedwacker (http://www.saintarnold.com/beers/weedwacker.html) - a kolsch made with hefeweizen yeast.  big thumbs up.

my own brewing efforts have been coming along nicely.  the first pic below is of my first two batches - on the left is a citrusy witbier, on the right (with the blowoff tube) is a belgian honey ale.  the witbier was bottled on sunday (second pic).

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd427/sweet_cell/both_carboys_Feb2012.jpg)  (http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd427/sweet_cell/pseudo-wit-ty_bottled_clear.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 14, 2012, 10:02:28 am
I just got supplies to start brewing beer!  Helped a friend brew an imperial stout on Saturday.  Can't wait!

Have you seen this website?

http://www.brewmate.net/

Pretty neat resource for the home brewer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 14, 2012, 11:34:08 am
somehow . . . though i'm sure it tastes good . . . it still looks like a meth lab production.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2012, 12:28:36 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on February 14, 2012, 10:02:28 am
Have you seen this website?

http://www.brewmate.net/

Pretty neat resource for the home brewer!

i've been using hopville (my recipes here (http://hopville.com/brewer/sweetcell)), which is an online version of the same thing.  brewmate seems to have a few extra bells and whistles, like the count-down timer (which i have as a separate app on my phone, but could be nice to have everything in one spot).  i'll have to give this a spin.  price is right!

Quote from: walkonby on February 14, 2012, 11:34:08 am
somehow . . . though i'm sure it tastes good . . . it still looks like a meth lab production.

i'm working in texas these days.  there is a brew supply store a few minutes away from the office here, so it's easier for me to stock up here than it is to go shopping back home where the stores are either in falls chuch or frederick.  last time at the shop i was looking for an erlenmeyer flask (AKA the beaker you used in chem lab) which is used for making yeast starters.  the pleasant old man behind the counter said that was the one piece of brewing equipment that he doesn't sell, because in texas it is considered meth-making equipment.  so you're not the only one making the association :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 14, 2012, 01:28:16 pm
You got at it quick!  hopville is dope - looks like good recipes, did you develop them yourself?  pretty ambitious first two brews.

something we've recently started to do is throw in whirlfloc tabs with 5 minutes to go in the brew to increase clarity.  that bottle may clear up a little bit, but if you desire more of an translucent brew, i recommend it.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2012, 04:40:09 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2012, 01:28:16 pm
hopville is dope - looks like good recipes, did you develop them yourself?  pretty ambitious first two brews.

yeah, they're mine, in part.  both the wit and the grand cru were based on other's recipes (the latter being a take on papazian's "who's in the garden) but i added the partial mashes, modified the extract proportions, changed the hops and/or spices, etc.  i think i've gotten the hang of it and recipe calculators like hopville really help with keeping proportions in check.  the strawberry isn't mine, i inputed it on behalf of someone else who wanted the numbers... but now that i have it, i'm tempted to give it a go in a few months so i have it in time for summer.  so little time!  i'll be trying the "eurocrat" belgian dark before that.

one thing that i would change next time 'round is cutting back on/replacing some of the Citra hops in the witbier.  they're too damn strong and at bottling seem to take over the brew.  hopefully they'll mellow out with a little aging.

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2012, 01:28:16 pm
something we've recently started to do is throw in whirlfloc tabs with 5 minutes to go in the brew to increase clarity.  that bottle may clear up a little bit, but if you desire more of an translucent brew, i recommend it.

i didn't bother using whilrfloc with the first batch: it's a witbier, it's supposed to be hazy.  the yeast that i used = a low flocculation variety.  also, that pic was taken within minutes of bottling so nothing had settled down yet.

i'm really on the fence about color and transparency.  brewers seem to make a big deal about it but it strikes me as pointless obsession with appearances.  it's like saying a dog isn't good because its ears don't conform to some weird, arbitraty standard.  i'm not looking to win any competitions so it's not very high on my priorities.  on the other hand it's one more thing to obsess about, and gawd knows this hobby is all about obsessing!

the addition that i can't imagine brewing without is fermcap.  does an amazing job of preventing boil-overs and primary blowoffs/blowups.  but i'm sure you're already all over the stuff :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 15, 2012, 09:41:06 am
I am a total newbie to the homebrew world.  I have alot to learn!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 15, 2012, 10:08:32 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 14, 2012, 04:40:09 pm
i didn't bother using whilrfloc with the first batch: it's a witbier, it's supposed to be hazy.  the yeast that i used = a low flocculation variety.  also, that pic was taken within minutes of bottling so nothing had settled down yet.

i'm really on the fence about color and transparency.  brewers seem to make a big deal about it but it strikes me as pointless obsession with appearances.  it's like saying a dog isn't good because its ears don't conform to some weird, arbitraty standard.  i'm not looking to win any competitions so it's not very high on my priorities.  on the other hand it's one more thing to obsess about, and gawd knows this hobby is all about obsessing!

the addition that i can't imagine brewing without is fermcap.  does an amazing job of preventing boil-overs and primary blowoffs/blowups.  but i'm sure you're already all over the stuff :)

it's really one of those optimizing things.  when we started having others try our beers, we saw the difference in reaction when the aesthetics were more on point with the taste.  a hazy IPA gives off the impression that they are drink a very full beer, whether that's the case or not.  we didn't like that, so switched to whirlfloc.  all personal preference!

fermcap has not made it into the arsenal yet.  we've had such a small set-up that we end up having to watch the boil like a hawk, but that'll change soon.  upgrading to a propane burner and a 15 gal brewpot.  thanks for the heads up
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 15, 2012, 10:46:17 am
the propane burner really made a difference this weekend.  You can get the deep fried turkey burner/pot combo at Costco for a good price!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 15, 2012, 12:07:56 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on February 15, 2012, 09:41:06 am
I am a total newbie to the homebrew world.  I have alot to learn!

i'm still a newb myself, but this hobby has become an obsession.  what i lack in experience i pretend to make up in book-smarts.  reading about brewing is all i seem to do these days... when not brewing :)

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 15, 2012, 10:08:32 am
it's really one of those optimizing things.  when we started having others try our beers, we saw the difference in reaction when the aesthetics were more on point with the taste.  a hazy IPA gives off the impression that they are drink a very full beer, whether that's the case or not.  we didn't like that, so switched to whirlfloc.  all personal preference!

that's a great point.  i make a point of presenting my food in a way that enhances the experience, so why wouldn't i do the same for beer.  hadn't occurred to me.  thanks!

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 15, 2012, 10:08:32 am
fermcap has not made it into the arsenal yet.  we've had such a small set-up that we end up having to watch the boil like a hawk, but that'll change soon.  upgrading to a propane burner and a 15 gal brewpot.  thanks for the heads up

it also helps in controlling starters, if you make those.  a drop ensures that the yeasties don't pour krausen out of your starter flask.  obviously pointless if you're using dry yeast.

Quote from: K8teebug on February 15, 2012, 10:46:17 am
the propane burner really made a difference this weekend.  You can get the deep fried turkey burner/pot combo at Costco for a good price!

so far i've been doing everything on the gas stove in the kitchen.  i imagine that come summer i'll want to move things outside - that's a lot of heat and humidity to be putting into an AC'ed house.  gonna look into a propane burner at some point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 16, 2012, 05:30:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 13, 2012, 11:45:15 pm
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd427/sweet_cell/both_carboys_Feb2012.jpg) 

I hate to say this, and I mean no disregard to your brewing skills, but these look like something that was recycled out of a couple well used port-a-potties.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 16, 2012, 09:43:56 am
Quote from: Jaguar on February 16, 2012, 05:30:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 13, 2012, 11:45:15 pm
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd427/sweet_cell/both_carboys_Feb2012.jpg) 

I hate to say this, and I mean no disregard to your brewing skills, but these look like something that was recycled out of a couple well used port-a-potties.

Unfortunately, that's what most home brewing set ups look like...

Confession: I've never had a home brew that I thought was absolutely delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 16, 2012, 12:20:19 pm
indeed, fermenting barley sugar isn't much to look at.  depending on style & technique it will clear up - that puke-colored haze on the right will eventually clear into a nice golden crystal.  it's hazy in the pic because fermentation was really active.  the yeast and the CO2 they produce were churning the contents.  it's really cool to watch, sorta like watching the surface of jupiter on high speed.  ok, fine, i think it's cool to watch  ;D

yada: i have no illusions that my early attempts at brewing will be anything more than "practice", but if/when i get a decent drink together i'll be sure to invite you over.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 16, 2012, 12:24:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 16, 2012, 12:20:19 pm
it's really cool to watch, sorta like watching the surface of jupiter on high speed.  ok, fine, i think it's cool to watch  ;D

That sounds rather psychedelic.  8)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 16, 2012, 12:38:53 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 16, 2012, 12:20:19 pm
indeed, fermenting barley sugar isn't much to look at.  depending on style & technique it will clear up - that puke-colored haze on the right will eventually clear into a nice golden crystal.  it's hazy in the pic because fermentation was really active.  the yeast and the CO2 they produce were churning the contents.  it's really cool to watch, sorta like watching the surface of jupiter on high speed.  ok, fine, i think it's cool to watch  ;D

yada: i have no illusions that my early attempts at brewing will be anything more than "practice", but if/when i get a decent drink together i'll be sure to invite you over.

I'll take you up on this!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 16, 2012, 06:59:57 pm
so i was walking around my local beer storree, the talk was of distributors and whether to cater favor more toward the wine crowd or the beer buyers.  and all i could think of as i walked around with my cute little basket, was that picture of the home brewery.  the bottles i picked up seemed crisper and more inviting than before.  the ease of the transaction and the conforming conditioned rejoice of selection without slave to ogre sized piss jugs and crystal meth beakers, made me go big.  big i tell you.  the elderly woman behind the counter in a smalltown, was happy.

firestone  union jack ipa  (ruled)
firestone  double jack  double ipa  (double ruled)

allagash  dubbel reserve  (this company just keeps impressing with their brews)

Ovila  Quad  (collaboration between sierra nevada and the abbey of new clairvaux)  1/4 of series

gouden carolus  cuvee  de  keizer  2011  (damn this beer will knowk you out and engulf you)

schlafly  dry hopped  apa ale (have not tried, bought because i wanted to know what an "apa" was)

founders  centennial ipa  (besides dirty bastard . . . this still is always awesome no matter what)

ommegang  adoration  winter ale  (storage item)

langunitas  little sumpin  sumpin ale  (this brewery, which i thank james ford for first mentioning
langunitas  maximus ipa  maximus ale  (has become one my favorites.  everything they do . . . A+)

green flash brewing  rayon vert  belgian pale  (storage item)

weyerbacher  double simcoe ipa  (i must look up simcoe, for now it is all the rage.  very unique ipa)
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 17, 2012, 12:28:55 am
Sitting back and drinking a Lump Of Coal (http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/beers/beerProfile.asp?BeerID=151) at the moment.

(http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/images/beers/LumpofCoal.jpg)


It's okay but nothing I'd bother opting for over others I've had of its ilk. Sweet and dark with licorice overtones, which I usually like, but something doesn't quite sit all that well with me with this one. Not exactly sure why. Sort of think it might be the sugars and burntness are both a little too over-powering and seem to be fighting with each other rather than mingling together making a nice blend. I wouldn't turn one down but probably won't buy it again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 17, 2012, 03:35:17 am
last night i had:

- 11.11.11 epic ale: as far as i know, this is the first chili-flavored beer i've ever had.  i quite liked it, heat wasn't over-powering.  i had it (and all the other beers here) on draft but i suspect that a bottle of this would age very nicely.
- left hand milk stout: first few sips were absolutely divine.  don't remember the last time i fell in love with a beer so quickly.  also don't remember the last time my relationship with a beer when south so quickly: by the end i had grown tired of it, the sweetness had died away, it had gotten thinner/water'ier, etc.  the last quarter of the pint was tough to get through.  in fact, i don't think i did get through it.  if i ever order this again it will be in a smaller amount.
- boulevard quadrupel: what an amazing beer to end the evening with.  i doubt anything else could have followed it up so i'm glad i had it last.  very rich and complex, amazing sweet finish.  gawd i hope they still have this when i next return (doubtful tho).

Quote from: walkonby on February 16, 2012, 06:59:57 pm
schlafly  dry hopped  apa ale (have not tried, bought because i wanted to know what an "apa" was)

weyerbacher  double simcoe ipa  (i must look up simcoe, for now it is all the rage.  very unique ipa)

i'm sure you've discovered by now that APA = american pale ale.  simcoe is a relatively new variety of hop.  it's a proprietary variety described as having an aroma made up of citrus, pine, and passionfruit.  it's unique in that regards, so you can't substitute other hops for it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 17, 2012, 09:35:58 am
Has anyone ever tried growing their own hops?  I was thinking of getting some rhizomes and attempting it this summer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 17, 2012, 10:59:42 am
Quote from: K8teebug on February 17, 2012, 09:35:58 am
Has anyone ever tried growing their own hops?  I was thinking of getting some rhizomes and attempting it this summer.

i have some on pre-order, so i'll be trying my hand at it this summer.  i ordered hop crowns from great lake hops (https://www.facebook.com/GreatLakesHops / http://stores.ebay.com/Great-Lakes-Hops).  crowns are second-year plants with fully formed central roots, whereas rhizomes are a small chunk of side-root that will become the central root.  rhizomes spend the first year or two setting up their root structure so cone production sometimes doesn't hit its stride until year 2 or 3.  you're more likely to get a bigger first-year crop with a crown.  crowns are more expensive, tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 12:01:19 pm
Anybody else make it to the Mad Fox Barleywine Fest?

We tried these eight, in order of preference:

1. Weyerbacher Insanity 2012 : They take their regular barleywine and age it on oak bourbon casks. This one was so good we headed right to Whole Foods and picked up a four pack that just went on sale.

2. Schlafly Oak Aged Barleywine 2011: Another oak aged barleywine, minus the bourbon. I guess the bottom line is we really like oak aged.

3. Lagunitas Olde Gnarleywine 2011: Strong flavor, hint of bourbon detected. Hard to describe, but very, very good.

4. Hebrew Jewbelation 15 2011 (cask): Possibly the most interesting tasting of the bunch. The "program" said it had a black cherry taste going, and indeed you could taste that.

5. JW Lees Harvest Ale 2010 (cask): This one is an ENGLISH style barleywine, so less hoppy than the American style barleywines. Strong malt taste rather than hoppy. Wife said it tasted "musty".

6. Sierra Nevada Bigfoot 10: Always one of my go-to barleywines since a sixer is relatively cheap (2012 release is this week!), very good but tasted sort of pedestrian in this crowded field.

7. Mikkeller/Three Floyds Boogoop Buckwheat Wine 2011: So this was a wheat wine which tasted like a DIPA being called a barleywine. Very good, but not as good as other Three Floyds beers I've had.

8. Avery Hog Heaven 2011: Program described it as a "hop lovers delight". Another barleywine that tasted like a DIPA. Good, but if i wanted a DIPA, there are many real ones that taste better...and Avery makes two of those. And if i wanted a barleywine, I wouldn't go for one that tasted sort of like a DIPA!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 12:02:41 pm
Picked up a four pack of this when I was in Indiana (at the local grocery store!). Good stuff. Boulevard needs to start distributing here. and grocery stores around here (other than Whole Foods) need to carry more craft beer.

Quote from: sweetcell on February 17, 2012, 03:35:17 am
last night i had:
- boulevard quadrupel: what an amazing beer to end the evening with.  i doubt anything else could have followed it up so i'm glad i had it last.  very rich and complex, amazing sweet finish.  gawd i hope they still have this when i next return (doubtful tho).

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 17, 2012, 01:10:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 12:01:19 pm
Anybody else make it to the Mad Fox Barleywine Fest?

We tried these eight, in order of preference:

1. Weyerbacher Insanity 2012 : They take their regular barleywine and age it on oak bourbon casks. This one was so good we headed right to Whole Foods and picked up a four pack that just went on sale.

didn't make it, would have loved too.  that was a really nice selection of beers you tried there!

i'll be in VA tomorrow, i might have a look for the weyerbacher at WF.

i'd also like boulevard to distribute here.  i've only had two of their beers, and both have been excellent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2012, 01:31:42 pm
Quote from: walkonby on February 16, 2012, 06:59:57 pm

firestone  double jack  double ipa  (double ruled)


Love that stuff.  Why it doesn't get more love is beyond me.

(it probably does and I'm not paying attention)

Wish it came in 6 packs.  I'm tired of buying bombers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 17, 2012, 02:50:40 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2012, 01:31:42 pm
Love that stuff.  Why it doesn't get more love is beyond me.

(it probably does and I'm not paying attention)

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/firestone-walker-double-jack-ipa/106045/
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2210/50697

a perfect score and an "exceptional" rating - i'd say that it's getting some love :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 04:00:11 pm
Being in the 100th percentile on ratebeer doesn't mean you got a "perfect score", it just means you beat out 99.5% of other beers rated.
 ;)

Great beer. On tap right now at Whole Foods $4 for a 12 oz draft (as is Stone Ruination, which also has a 100 on ratebeer). Might have to go for lunch tomorrow~

Heading after work to Total Wine to get a four pack of Founders Double Trouble. Second batch is in.

Quote from: sweetcell on February 17, 2012, 02:50:40 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2012, 01:31:42 pm
Love that stuff.  Why it doesn't get more love is beyond me.

(it probably does and I'm not paying attention)

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/firestone-walker-double-jack-ipa/106045/
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2210/50697

a perfect score and an "exceptional" rating - i'd say that it's getting some love :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on February 17, 2012, 04:03:06 pm
Stumbled into some of this at Rick's the other night while picking up the Better Half.  Have you had it before?  It was a bit of an impulse buy at the counter.

Quote from: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 04:00:11 pm
Heading after work to Total Wine to get a four pack of Founders Double Trouble. Second batch is in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 04:16:56 pm
My friend overheard the WF beer guy call it "the thinking man's Hopslam".

Yes, very good. Maybe in my top 10 imperial ipa's. Have not had the 2012 version yet.

Haven't had a Founders beer yet that wasn't at least "very good".


Quote from: nkotb on February 17, 2012, 04:03:06 pm
Stumbled into some of this at Rick's the other night while picking up the Better Half.  Have you had it before?  It was a bit of an impulse buy at the counter.

Quote from: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 04:00:11 pm
Heading after work to Total Wine to get a four pack of Founders Double Trouble. Second batch is in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on February 17, 2012, 05:19:06 pm
Right...that's why I didn't second guess the buy.  Just hadn't read anything about it, and figured you were the best source ;)

Quote from: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 04:16:56 pm
Haven't had a Founders beer yet that wasn't at least "very good".
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 17, 2012, 05:22:34 pm
founders  imperial stout . . . not good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 17, 2012, 06:41:25 pm
Quote from: walkonby on February 17, 2012, 05:22:34 pm
founders  imperial stout . . . not good.

definitely their least impressive offering, at least fresh.  methinks it needs 6 months to a year to mellow out.  i've got a bunch in the basement.  ping me in july for an update.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 07:24:01 pm
I'll take your extras.  ;D

I like the imperial stout over CBS and the regular breakfast stout. Not better than KBS.

Quote from: walkonby on February 17, 2012, 05:22:34 pm
founders  imperial stout . . . not good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 17, 2012, 09:24:44 pm
kbs is amazing.  on tap... oh my.

double jack is fantastic.

still haven't seen had hopslam :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 18, 2012, 08:10:12 am
Quote from: walkonby on February 17, 2012, 05:22:34 pm
founders  imperial stout . . . not good.

huh?? the imp stout is excellent!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 18, 2012, 08:12:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 17, 2012, 04:16:56 pm
Yes, very good. Maybe in my top 10 imperial ipa's. Have not had the 2012 version yet.


2012 is excellent - definitely better than hopslam this year or maybe my tastes are changing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 18, 2012, 08:14:48 am
Quote from: nkotb on February 17, 2012, 04:03:06 pm
Stumbled into some of this at Rick's the other night while picking up the Better Half. 

dang! you got your hands on better half? My wife went to rodmans specially during the day yesterday but they sold out their entire allocation an hour after putting it on the shelf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on February 18, 2012, 02:43:55 pm
Rick's Facebook page.  They announced it and if you're lucky, you can buy over the phone.  Love that place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on February 20, 2012, 01:07:22 pm
On tap today at Big Hunt, apparently.

Quote from: brennser on February 18, 2012, 08:14:48 am
Quote from: nkotb on February 17, 2012, 04:03:06 pm
Stumbled into some of this at Rick's the other night while picking up the Better Half. 

dang! you got your hands on better half? My wife went to rodmans specially during the day yesterday but they sold out their entire allocation an hour after putting it on the shelf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 20, 2012, 01:37:44 pm
Broke out the good stuff last night: Three Floyds Dreadnaught and Mikkeller Beer Geek Breakfast (Bourbon Edition). Held onto the Dreadnaught a little too long as it lost a little bit of its hoppiness. The Mikkeller had a nice, smooth finish.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 20, 2012, 01:50:40 pm
never heard of mikkeller before i tried their simcoe ipa . . . now i am its stalker.  call tmz.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 20, 2012, 11:02:26 pm
yup - had some - very good - sweet but good

Quote from: nkotb on February 20, 2012, 01:07:22 pm
On tap today at Big Hunt, apparently.

Quote from: brennser on February 18, 2012, 08:14:48 am
Quote from: nkotb on February 17, 2012, 04:03:06 pm
Stumbled into some of this at Rick's the other night while picking up the Better Half. 

dang! you got your hands on better half? My wife went to rodmans specially during the day yesterday but they sold out their entire allocation an hour after putting it on the shelf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on February 21, 2012, 12:29:59 pm
Nugget Nectar day!

http://beeradvocate.com/events/info/52113
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 21, 2012, 02:28:49 pm
Perfect Pour says their wholesaler is arranging deliveries and it will be on their floor next week.

It's already out there so I suspect some local shops will have it this week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 21, 2012, 03:26:33 pm
tried it last year after all the hoopla.

wasn't that impressed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 21, 2012, 04:56:15 pm
How fresh was you bottle?

And if I recall, a year ago you hated anything hoppy.

Quote from: walkonby on February 21, 2012, 03:26:33 pm
tried it last year after all the hoopla.

wasn't that impressed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 21, 2012, 05:13:40 pm
it was fresh.  should i let it sit for a month or two first?

i'll try it again.  in fact, my local shoppeee  just got it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 21, 2012, 05:16:38 pm
No, you want to drink that one asap.

Anybody know if there will be a second round of Nugget Nectar? Definitely want to get some but i still have 12 L. Sucks, four Hopslams, and three Double Troubles to drink!


Quote from: walkonby on February 21, 2012, 05:13:40 pm
it was fresh.  should i let it sit for a month or two first?

i'll try it again.  in fact, my local shoppeee  just got it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 21, 2012, 06:15:17 pm
You have some time.  NN hung around a pretty long time last year.  It's not like certain brands that are gone as soon as they arrive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 21, 2012, 11:01:14 pm
Tonite's list:

Breckenridge Small Batch 471
Bell's Hopslam
Troegs Nugget Nectar
Bell's Two-Hearted

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 21, 2012, 11:20:16 pm
Yeah, but i'm wondering if there's going to be a second batch. If I wait and buy in late March or whenever, I want some that's fresh, not some that's been sitting on the shelf for a month.


Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 21, 2012, 06:15:17 pm
You have some time.  NN hung around a pretty long time last year.  It's not like certain brands that are gone as soon as they arrive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 21, 2012, 11:23:07 pm
Second batch of Hopslam is hitting stores this week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 22, 2012, 02:33:06 am
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd427/sweet_cell/pseudo20120219_192418.jpg) (http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd427/sweet_cell/pseudo20120219_192246.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 22, 2012, 10:16:57 am
Quote from: grateful on February 21, 2012, 11:01:14 pm
Tonite's list:

Breckenridge Small Batch 471
Bell's Hopslam
Troegs Nugget Nectar
Bell's Two-Hearted



How's your hangover this morning?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 22, 2012, 12:18:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 22, 2012, 10:16:57 am
Quote from: grateful on February 21, 2012, 11:01:14 pm
Tonite's list:

Breckenridge Small Batch 471
Bell's Hopslam
Troegs Nugget Nectar
Bell's Two-Hearted



How's your hangover this morning?

I need Five Guys.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 22, 2012, 12:22:23 pm
Quote from: grateful on February 22, 2012, 12:18:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 22, 2012, 10:16:57 am
Quote from: grateful on February 21, 2012, 11:01:14 pm
Tonite's list:

Breckenridge Small Batch 471
Bell's Hopslam
Troegs Nugget Nectar
Bell's Two-Hearted



How's your hangover this morning?

I need Five Guys.

Hhahaha... I call those mornings a #7 with an Orange Hi-C.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on February 22, 2012, 04:08:21 pm
Good lord...Rick's sold out in an hour.

Quote from: James Ford on February 21, 2012, 11:23:07 pm
Second batch of Hopslam is hitting stores this week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 22, 2012, 04:13:04 pm
That's what happens when you accept orders over the phone.

I know one place that will no doubt have it if i tried. But i'm sticking to my guns and not buying any more this year.

Quote from: nkotb on February 22, 2012, 04:08:21 pm
Good lord...Rick's sold out in an hour.

Quote from: James Ford on February 21, 2012, 11:23:07 pm
Second batch of Hopslam is hitting stores this week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 22, 2012, 09:43:22 pm
Going to Kansas City this weekend. Will hopefully bring back some Boulevard Tank 7. Doubt I will be able to come across any Chocolate Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 22, 2012, 09:44:19 pm
DFH beer release schedule.  ooo 75 minute

http://beernews.org/2012/02/dogfish-head-releasing-six-bottled-beers-over-next-four-weeks-including-saison-du-buff/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 22, 2012, 09:45:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 22, 2012, 04:13:04 pm
I know one place that will no doubt have it if i tried. But i'm sticking to my guns and not buying any more this year.

what's this beer store you speak of?  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on February 23, 2012, 10:06:53 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 22, 2012, 09:45:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 22, 2012, 04:13:04 pm
I know one place that will no doubt have it if i tried. But i'm sticking to my guns and not buying any more this year.

what's this beer store you speak of?  :o

Schneiders had quite a bit still late last night.  They didn't put any on the floor, so you had to ask for it which I imagine kept it from vanishing very quick.  May be worth giving a call.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 28, 2012, 09:49:17 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 22, 2012, 09:45:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 22, 2012, 04:13:04 pm
I know one place that will no doubt have it if i tried. But i'm sticking to my guns and not buying any more this year.

what's this beer store you speak of?  :o

Found some last weekend. There is definitely a serious amount of hops in it (great aroma), and it costs $20+ for a six-pack.  No clue what the hype is about, but I'm consistently underwhelmed with Bells.

Anyone ever stop into Virginia Market on 18th and U?  Just found that place, they have amazing selection.

Also - Nugget Nectar this week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 28, 2012, 10:08:10 am
For me:

Hopslam=Great
Two Hearted=Very Good
Double Cream Stout=Very Good
All other Bell's beers (and I've had a bunch of them)=Average to Good


Quote from: stevewizzle on February 28, 2012, 09:49:17 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 22, 2012, 09:45:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 22, 2012, 04:13:04 pm
I know one place that will no doubt have it if i tried. But i'm sticking to my guns and not buying any more this year.

what's this beer store you speak of?  :o

Found some last weekend. There is definitely a serious amount of hops in it (great aroma), and it costs $20+ for a six-pack.  No clue what the hype is about, but I'm consistently underwhelmed with Bells.

Anyone ever stop into Virginia Market on 18th and U?  Just found that place, they have amazing selection.

Also - Nugget Nectar this week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 28, 2012, 10:32:05 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 28, 2012, 09:49:17 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 22, 2012, 09:45:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 22, 2012, 04:13:04 pm
I know one place that will no doubt have it if i tried. But i'm sticking to my guns and not buying any more this year.

what's this beer store you speak of?  :o

Found some last weekend. There is definitely a serious amount of hops in it (great aroma), and it costs $20+ for a six-pack.  No clue what the hype is about, but I'm consistently underwhelmed with Bells.

Anyone ever stop into Virginia Market on 18th and U?  Just found that place, they have amazing selection.

Also - Nugget Nectar this week.

I used to live about 50 feet from the Virginia Market. Great place. With them and De Vinos on the same block, you could always find what you're looking for.

Also, got a case of Hopslam for $56 in PA this weekend. You can't beat that!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 28, 2012, 10:52:51 am
No, you can't.  I was in PA last Saturday and bought a case of Nugget Nectar for $45 (after tax).  Was their last one.  Asked about Hopslam but they were out.

MD beer prices are awful (beating a dead horse...but still....)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 28, 2012, 11:02:36 am
Are you allowed to buy four and six packs in PA, or do they require you to buy a case? Don't know if i quite understand all the rules on that.

Going to Philly sometime this Spring I hope. Is there anything I should pick up/seek out there that can't be had in DC area (Russian River?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 28, 2012, 11:23:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 28, 2012, 11:02:36 am
Are you allowed to buy four and six packs in PA, or do they require you to buy a case? Don't know if i quite understand all the rules on that.

Going to Philly sometime this Spring I hope. Is there anything I should pick up/seek out there that can't be had in DC area (Russian River?)

They didn't have six packs of hopslam, just cases. Nugget Nectar was only $37 a case there.

I'm not sure if you can buy cases of Russian River in Philly, I think it's just distributed at bars. I may be wrong...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 28, 2012, 12:22:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 28, 2012, 11:02:36 am
Are you allowed to buy four and six packs in PA, or do they require you to buy a case? Don't know if i quite understand all the rules on that.

I was told you had to buy by the case.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 28, 2012, 12:57:02 pm
A kind soul procured a bottle of barrel aged blackout stout (Great Lakes) for me yesterday - can;t wait to try it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 28, 2012, 01:34:30 pm
To prove that I can even be snarky on this thread...Beer Madness is back in the Washington Post...



The ?experts? are a pastry chef, a mixologist (black and tan anyone?), a chef at a wine bar, a wine sommelier and a beer writer. How does that constitute a group of ?experts??

The readers, other than the old Navy geezer (who sounds like a Safeway beer shopper), actually sound like they would have some expertise based on their favorite beers. It?s almost like they asked the readers their three favorite beers, and the old guy said ?Flying Dog, Dogfish, and New Belgium? and they had to change the question they printed (to favorite brewery) to fit his answers.

I also fail to see how 26, 28, 30, 64, and 70 are a good representation of the ages of the craft beer drinking population. Or the over 21 population in general (unless a good number of those whose ages were'nt given are in the 31-60 range).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/all-we-can-eat/post/meet-the-beer-madness-judges/2012/02/24/gIQA3g35dR_blog.html



THE EXPERTS
Agnes Chin is the pastry chef at Palena in Cleveland Park.
Gina Chersevani is a mixologist and founding member of the DC Craft Bartenders Guild.
Rob Weland is executive chef at Cork Wine Bar in Logan Circle.
Returning judge Kat Bangs, 28, is sommelier at Komi in Dupont Circle.
Greg Kitsock is The Post?s Beer columnist. He is editor of Mid-Atlantic Brewing News.
THE READERS
Jim Munsterman, 70, is a retired Naval aviator and part-time marketing consultant. He lives in Chantilly. His entry:
Seventy year young retired Naval Aviator enjoys a variety of craft beers; his expertise and passion are testified to by the gossip and admiration of the technicians who weekly collect his frequently full recycling container ? mostly dark bottles and occasional cans.
His three favorite breweries: Flying Dog; Dogfish Head; New Belgium.
Halley Fehner, 26, is a historian at History Associates Inc. She lives in Rockville. Her entry:
SWF seeking good craft beer, preferably tall, dark, and strong enough to make me lightheaded when we?re together.
Her three favorite beers: Russian River Supplication; Goose Island Bourbon County Stout; Dogfish Head Indian Brown Ale.
Samantha Polinik , 30, is an architect apprentice. She lives in Columbia Heights. Her entry:
Before moving back to DC for the ever-increasing craft-brew culture (and a job opportunity), I lived in Portland, Oregon, for two and a half years, where in addition to permanently losing my ability to absorb sunlight, I frequently enjoyed many a craft brew, while attempting to explain sarcasm to the locals.   
Her three favorite beers: Ninkasi (Total Domination IPA); Dogfish Head Chicory Stout; tie (sorry sorry) McMenamin Brothers Ruby Ale and Copacetic IPA (Amnesia Brewing Co.).
U.S. Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.), 64, is co-chairman of the Small Brewers Caucus. His entry:
The only effective role I have in the minority is my co-chairmanship of the Small Brewers Caucus because beer is food and that?s the most bipartisan agreement around Washington, D.C., these days.
His three favorite beers: Ninkasi Tricerahops Double IPA; Brooklyn Brewery Sorachi Ace; Deschutes Black Butte Porter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 28, 2012, 02:47:40 pm
My latest favorite is Evolution Winter Migration (2011), a dark ale aged in bourbon barrels.  Yum!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 01, 2012, 11:05:14 am
Did anybody manage to try Alewerks Bitter Valentine?

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/14952/78559

Hopefully more is on the way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 01, 2012, 11:36:46 am
http://dcbeer.com/2012/03/01/adroit-theory-is-or-will-be-the-new-brewery-on-the-block/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 01, 2012, 11:45:08 am
They lost me with this:

Adroit Theory?s premise is to be cutting edge, targeting the ?1-percenters.?

Not what the beer world needs.

Quote from: Yada on March 01, 2012, 11:36:46 am
http://dcbeer.com/2012/03/01/adroit-theory-is-or-will-be-the-new-brewery-on-the-block/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 01, 2012, 12:03:58 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 01, 2012, 11:45:08 am
They lost me with this:

Adroit Theory?s premise is to be cutting edge, targeting the ?1-percenters.?

Not what the beer world needs.

Quote from: Yada on March 01, 2012, 11:36:46 am
http://dcbeer.com/2012/03/01/adroit-theory-is-or-will-be-the-new-brewery-on-the-block/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

White northern, va yuppies drinking beer!! You won't see me there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 01, 2012, 12:55:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 01, 2012, 11:45:08 am
They lost me with this:

Adroit Theory?s premise is to be cutting edge, targeting the ?1-percenters.?

Not what the beer world needs.

i think y'all getting your overly-PC underwear in a knot over a poor choice of words.  they are not talking about socio-economic 1-percenters, they're talking about the 1% of beer drinkers who have uncommon tastes.  what percentage regularly drinks lambics?  i wouldn't be surprised if it's around 1%.  ergo, if you are a lambic producer you're targetting that 1%.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on March 01, 2012, 06:55:21 pm
More than enough beery events in the Mid-Atlantic area this month to get all of your drunkin' asses fired!  :D

Delaware

Thursday, March 1st: Dogfish Head Beer Dinner at Luca, Millsboro ?
Featured will be Noble Rot, their newest beer made with botrytis infected grapes and blended with a saison. Also, Namaste, and Palo Santo. 5pm. Reservations at 302-934-5822. www.lucaristorante.com/events.html.

Friday, March 9th through Sunday, the 11th: Chocolate Beer Dinner at Dogfish Head, Rehoboth ?
Between Dogfish Head Brewing and Eats and our off-centered Milton brewery, the Weekend of Compelling Ales and Whatnot is a great few days for beer geeks. Info at www.dogfish.com/the-weekend-of-compelling-ales-and-whatnot/index.htm.

Sunday, March 18th: Cheese, Please, Beer Dinner at Dogfish Head, Rehoboth ?
6:30pm. $57 includes gratuity. Menu and reservations at www.dogfish.com.

Tuesday, March 20th: Grilled Cheese and Beer at World Cafe Live at The Queen, Wilmington ?
The best quality locally sourced ingredients for these creations, as well as hard to find imports from around the world. $35. 6pm. Tickets and details at http://queentickets.worldcafelive.com/eventperformances.asp?evt=200.

Wednesday, April 25th: Brewer's Dinner at Stewart's, Bear ?
Four courses for $40. Reservations at info at 302-836-2739 or www.stewartsbrewingcompany.com.

District of Columbia

Saturday, March 3rd: Brewer's Ball to Benefit the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation ?
Sample a variety of handcrafted microbrews from more than a dozen of the region's best microbreweries and brewpubs, while also enjoying the cuisine of several popular restaurants. The evening will feature live entertainment and guests can enjoy an exciting auction. Details and tickets at www.dcbrewersball.org.

Thursday, March 5th: DC/NY Beer Tasting and Musical Showcase at DC9 ?
Details at www.dcnine.com.

Tuesday, May 15th: Big But Beautiful Beers at National Geographic ?
Brewmaster and beer expert, Garrett Oliver, whose definitive Oxford Companion to Beer was published to rave reviews last fall, returns by popular demand with a selection of "big but beautiful" beers?beers that combine brawn with true elegance and an ability to age well. 7pm. $85. http://events.nationalgeographic.com/events/special-events/2012/05/15/power-and-glory/.

Maryland

Thursday, March 1st: Heavy Seas Cask Night at Metropolitan, Baltimore ?
The highlight of this event will be a wooden Beaujolais cask filled with Heavy Seas Siren Noire Chocolate Stout; Metropolitan asked Heavy Seas firkinmeister Steve Marsh to select a beer to complement the particular flavors of the Beaujolais pin. A custom cask of Heavy Seas Pale Ale will also be on hand, and the Heavy Seas crew will surely make a showing. 6pm. www.hsbeer.com/cask-night-metropolitan-balto-md.

Thursday, March 1st: Heavy Seas Local Music Night at Leadbetters, Baltimore ?
Join Heavy Seas at Leadbetter's to see a special surprise set by Baltimore's own G-Tore! Refills of Heavy Seas pints will be discounted, and the first 48 attendees get to take home their logo-ed glass. 5pm. www.hsbeer.com/leadbetters.

Thursday, March 1st: Gigi's Farmhouse Ale Beer Release Party at Ram's Head ?
$4 commemorative glassware and $1 each additional pour during the release at your local Rams Head restaurant. 4-6pm. www.ramsheadtavern.com.

Friday, March 2nd: Heavy Seas Black Cannon Cask at Brewer's Cask, Federal Hill ?
Don't miss one of your last chances to taste this winter seasonal on cask in 2012. The first 24 people who purchase a draught get to keep the pint glass. 6pm. www.hsbeer.com/brewers-cask.

Friday, March 2nd: Florida Beer Co Tasting at Fenwick Beer and Wine, Silver Spring ?
Come out between 4:30-7:30pm for this free tasting. Located 2 blocks from the Silver Spring metro, Fenwick's offers 600+ craft beers. Free parking in front. 301-650-5770 or www.fenwickbeerandwine.com.

Wednesday, March 7th: Heavy Seas Fighting Firkins at Mahaffeys, Canton ?
Two custom Heavy Seas casks will go head-to-head in Mahaffey's firkin competition. Alice and Wayne are competing against Dennis and Jay to see who can come up with a better brew. Come out and taste each beer, and then vote on which one you liked best. 4-9pm. www.hsbeer.com/mahaffeys.

Wednesday, March 7th: Dogfish Head Aprihop Release Party, Gaithersburg ?
A serious IPA brewed with real Apricots. Raffle prizes every half hour. Proceeds go to benefit the Alzheimers Association. 5-8pm. www.dogfishalehouse.com.

Wednesday, March 14th: Stone Brewing Beer Dinner at Victoria Gastropub, Columbia ?
6:30pm. Reservations at 410-750-1880 or heather@victoriagastropub.comMenu at www.victoriagastropub.com.

Thursday, March 15th: Heavy Seas Beer Dinner at London Town, Edgewater ?
Meet Heavy Seas' sales rep Terry Moran. The meal will be prepared by Chef Jorgina Colyn, and beers from the Pyrate and Mutiny fleets will be paired with five courses. $95. 6:30pm. www.hsbeer.com/london-town.

Friday, March 16th: Local Hard Cider Tasting at Fenwick Beer and Wine, Silver Spring ?
Come out between 4:30-7:30pm for this free tasting. Located 2 blocks from the Silver Spring metro, Fenwick's offers 600+ craft beers. Free parking in front. 301-650-5770 or www.fenwickbeerandwine.com.

Saturday, March 17st: Heavy Seas St Paddy's Day Firkin at Bo Brooks, Baltimore ?
Bo Brooks will be tapping a special firkin of Heavy Seas Green Gold Ale to kick off the day. This is high-quality green beer that you don't want to miss. Noon to 4pm. www.hsbeer.com/bo-brooks.

Tuesday, March 20th: Heavy Seas Tap Takeover at Hempen Hill, Hagerstown ?
Hempen Hill BBQ will have six Heavy Seas taplines. The first 48 guests will be able to keep their Heay Seas pints. 5-8pm. 301-797-4455 or www.hsbeer.com/hempen-hill.

Wednesday, March 21st: Heavy Seas Plank II Release Party at Alewife, Baltimore ?
Join the Heavy Seas crew to celebrate the debut of their Plank II, the second edition in this series of beers aged on wood. 7pm. www.hsbeer.com/alewife.

Saturday, March 23rd and Sunday, the 24th: 5th Annual Beer and Bourbon Festival, Timonium ?
60 beers, 40 bourbons, and lots of bbq. Tickets at www.beerandbourbon.com.

Friday, March 30th: Judge's Bench 5-Year Anniversary Party with Heavy Seas, Ellicott City ?
Includes a special custom cask, created by Judge's Bench owner Mike. Cask details to come. 5-10pm. www.hsbeer.com/judges-bench.

Friday, March 30th: Spring Beerfest at Leinenkugel's Beer Garden, Baltimore ?
Unlimited Sampling of more than 10 seasonal beers, Live entertainment, Win a trip to Dewey Beach or an Xfinity Live! Philly VIP package. Details and tickets at www.missiontix.com.

Saturday, April 14th: City Paper's 2012 Brewfest, Fells Point ?
Featuring 72 micro-brews to sample. They've doubled the size of this event this year and will have both a music DJ and Karaoke. 1-5pm. Tickets at 410-523-2300 or www.missiontix.com.

Wednesday, April 18th: Unibroue Beer Dinner at Victoria Gastropub, Columbia ?
6:30pm. Reservations at 410-750-1880 or heather@victoriagastropub.comMenu at www.victoriagastropub.com.

Thursday, April 26th: Heavy Seas Tap Takeover and Tasting at Gilly's, Rockville ?
Try a Heavy Seas beer, order a pint, and buy a six pack--all in one outing. 5-8pm. 301-770-5515 or www.hsbeer.com/gillys.

Saturday, April 28th: Heavy Seas Brewery Tour, Halethorpe ?
Join Heavy Seas for a tour of the brewery and learn how your favorite beer is made! The tour is free and open to all ages, but to sample Heavy Seas beer you must purchase a souvenir pint glass for $5 and be 21+ years of age. Children under 18 do not need to be registered. www.hsbeer.com/brewery-tour-4281100.

New Jersey

Thursday, March 1st: Defiant Brewing Promo Night at Valley Stables, Oakland ?
Four Defiant beers will be on tap for the night with Mike on hand to meet and greet and discuss all things Defiant. 201-644-0800 or www.valleystablesnj.com.

Thursday, March 1st: Meet the Brewery at Iron Monkey, Jersey City ?
Featuring Flying Fish. 6-11pm. 201-435-5756 or www.ironmonkey.com.

Monday, March 5th: Beer Dating at the Iron Monkey, Jersey City ?
Three-minute speed dates each with a different craft beer sample. On-going drink specials during the event. 2pm. Gents-$25, Ladies-$10. 201-435-5756 or www.ironmonkey.com.

Saturday, March 24th: Beer on the Boards at Martell's Tiki Bar, Point Pleasant Beach ?
25+ breweries and an all-day gourmet buffet. Tickets include beer and buffet. Details at www.beersontheboards.com.

Thursday, March 29th: Vintage Brew Dinner at Mia, Atlantic City ?
Dogfish Head and Mia will be teaming-up to bring you a one-of-a-kind dinner to kick-off the festivities surrounding the 2012 Atlantic City Beer and Music Festival. 7pm. Menu and details at www.dogfish.com.

Friday, March 30th and Saturday, the 31th: Atlantic City Beer Festival ?
Tickets and info at http://celebrationofthesuds.com.

Saturday, April 28th: Chocolate and Beer Tasting, Cape May ?
Not America's beer authority Gary Monterosso, who will host a sampling of beers and chocolates that go perfectly together at the Inn of Cape May. 2-4pm. $30. 800-275-4278 or www.capemaymac.org.

Saturday, May 12th: Garden State Brewfest, Berkeley Heights ?
Hosted by the Mount Carmel Society, this event is a fundraiser for the NJ Community Food Bank and St Jude Children's Hospital. Featuring local brews from NJ, NY and PA. Plus, local vendors, local bands, a homebrew competition, and beer pong tournament. www.njbeerfest.com.

Southeastern PA

Thursday, March 1st: Tröegs Flight Night at Liberty Taproom, Reading ?
Four Tröegs beers will be offered on tap, including the elusive and super-hyped Nugget Nectar. There will be prizes and giveaways, possibly including posters signed by the brewmaster himself, Chris Trogner. 6pm. http://thelibertytaproom.com.

Friday, March 2nd: Bell's Tap Takeover at City Tap House ?
With Hopslam, Hell Hath No Fury, Cherry Stout, Winter White, Third Coast Old Ale, Sparkling Ale, Two Hearted Ale, Oarsmen, Java Stout, and Best Brown. 7pm. www.citytaphouse.com.

Saturday, March 3rd: Philly Craft Beer Festival ?
VIP tickets still available at http://phillycraftbeerfest.com.

Saturday, March 3rd: Half Acre Brewing Co at Blue Dog, Lansdale ?
Enjoy complimentary samples and discounted glasses of these Half Acre offerings. 6:30pm. www.bluedog.cc.

Saturday, March 3rd: Barrel-Aged to Perfection at Iron Hill, Phoenixville ?
Six Brewers' Reserves on tap. A raffle will be held for tickets to the Breakfast of Champions Event and a growler of each. www.ironhillbrewery.com.

Monday, March 5th: Kona "Buy the Glass" Luau at Revolution House ?
Unlimited Kona draft beers, Luau favors and a Kona pint glass for $10. Free bar snacks and great food specials. http://revolutionhouse.com.

Monday, March 5th: Kopstootje! Stillwater Ales and Bols Genever at The Farmers Cabinet ?
Lucas Bols and Stillwater join forces to reinvent the traditional Dutch "Kopstootje". 6-11:30pm. Details at www.thefarmerscabinet.com.

Tuesday, March 6th: Barrel-ly Legal at Eulogy Belgian Tavern ?
The selection will include bourbon, brandy, chardonnay, pinot noir, scotch, cabernet, and sake barrel aged beer in a range of styles and tastes. 7pm. www.eulogybar.com.

Wednesday, March 7th: Ommegang Meet the Brewer Dinner at Spinnerstown Hotel ?
Four courses for $45. 7pm. Reservations at 215-536-7242. www.spinnerstownhotel.com.

Wednesday, March 7th: AleSmith Draft Release Party at Hawthornes ?
4pm to close. www.hawthornecafe.com.

Wednesday, March 7th: White Birch Beer Dinner at Route 6 ?
One night only special beer dinner with New Hampshire's first nano-brewery, White Birch. $50 plus tax and gratuity. Menu at www.uwishunu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/route-6-beer-menu.jpg. Reservations at 215-391-4600. ww.route6restaurant.com.

Thursday, March 8th: Half Acre Tappings at Pinnochio's, Media ?
Daisy Cutter, Over Ale, Callow Knife and Alpenglo will be on tap. 11am-11pm. www.pinpizza.com.

Friday, March 9th: Doylestown Brewing Co Launch Party ?
DBC will be hosting its launch and tasting night at Shaving Grace Barbers in downtown Doylestown. Sample Fountain House Light, R5 Lager, and Union St IPA. 6pm. 267-614-1589 or http://doylestownbrewingcompany.com.

Saturday, March 10th: Craft Beer Express at Devil's Den ?
More info at 215-339-0855 or www.devilsdenphilly.com.

Saturday, March 10th: Craft Beer Express ?
A pub crawl to attract a knowledgeable audience who has a passion for quality beers and in-depth tasting events. 11am-9pm. Details at www.craftbeerexpress.com.

Sunday, March 11th: The Brewer's Plate 2012 at the National Constitution Center ?
Fair Food once again brings you a celebration of our region's craft breweries, restaurants, farmers, and artisanal producers ? all independently owned and located within 150 miles of the city. Info at www.fairfoodphilly.org/farm-tours-events/brewers-plate-2012.

Wednesday, March 14th: 3rd Annual Celtic Beer Dinner at Iron Abbey, Horsham ?
Five beers and five plates. 7pm. Details and reservations at 215-956-9600 or http://ironabbey.com.

Wednesday, March 14th: Pi(e) Day with Yards Brewing at Grey Lodge Pub ?
Celebrate Pi(e) Day with a three-pie dinner. 4-10pm. Details at http://greylodge.com.

Saturday, March 17th: Kegs and Eggs and Appalachian Brewing, Harrisburg ?
ABC will be serving a special menu for all the hungry lads and lassies from 9-11am. http://abcbrew.com.

Wednesday, March 28th: 6th Anniversary Beer vs Wine Pairing Dinner at Sette Luna, Easton ?
Five courses, head-to-head challenge, course for course. You pick the winner. 6:30-9:30pm. $40. Reservations at 610-253-8888. www.setteluna.com.

Saturday, April 28th: PA Flavor, the Ultimate Beer and Food Pairing at the Farm Show Complex, Harrisburg ?
Tickets and details, at http://greenbeltevents.com/events/pa-flavor-2012-the-ultimate-beer-and-food-pairing.

Sunday, April 15th: Electric City Craft Brewfest, Scranton ?
50+ local and regional craft brews. VIP tickets available. http://ecbrewfest.com.

Saturday, May 5th: Brewfest at Mount Hope Homebrew Competition Deadline (Fest on May 12th), Manheim ?
The Homebrew Competition will give homebrewers the chance to show off their brews among a festival of professional breweries. AHA/BJCP sanctioned and will follow the 2008 BJCP Style Guidelines. The Best of Show award will give homebrewers the opportunity to work with a professional brewer to make a batch of their winning recipe for sampling at the 2013 BrewFest. This honor also makes their brew eligible for entry into the GABF Pro-Am Competition. $5 per entry. www.parenfaire.com/brewfest/rules.php.

Saturday, May 12th: Brewfest at Mount Hope, Manheim ?
Fill your sampling glass with unique brews from a variety of different breweries from across the country. 11am-3pm or 4:30-8:30pm. Tickets and details at www.parenfaire.com/brewfest/main.php.

Virginia

Friday, March 2nd: Heavy Seas Oak Cask at Bilbo Baggins, Alexandria ?
Help drain an oak cask of Heavy Seas Loose Cannon. 5pm. www.hsbeer.com/bilbo-baggins.

Tuesday, March 6th: Heavy Seas Beer Dinner Challenge at Lyon Hall, Arlington ?
Heavy Seas' Jonathan McIntire will go head-to-head with the beverage director of Lyon Hall in a test of beer-and-food pairing skills. 6pm. 703-741-7636 or www.hsbeer.com/lyon-hall.

Wednesday, March 7th: Homebrewer's night at the Cock, Occoquan ?
Bring your latest brew to share and join a small but cool group of local home brewers to relax and talk beers. 7:30-? 703-494-1180 or http://cockandbowl.com.

Wednesday, March 7th: Devil's Backbone Beer Dinner at Tuscarora Mill, Leesburg ?
Chef Patrick is looking forward to pairing his cuisine to another award winning local brewery. $85 includes all. 7pm. Menu and reservations at www.tuskies.com.

Wednesday, March 7th: Dogfish Head Aprihop Release Party, all locations ?
A serious IPA brewed with real Apricots. Raffle prizes every half hour. Proceeds go to benefit the Alzheimers Association. 5-8pm. www.dogfishalehouse.com.

Monday, March 12th: Catoctin Creek Whiskey Dinner at Mad Fox, Falls Church ?
Five courses prepared by Chef Russel, four Spirits from Catoctin Creek, and one beer from Mad fox that has been Barrel-Aged for at least six months. 7pm. Tickets and menu at http://madfoxbrewing.com.

Thursday, March 15th: Flying Dog and Oysters at Magnolias at the Mill, ?
Whether it's on the half shell, fried, stewed or Rockefeller style this little bivalve say "show me the beer!" Flying Dog is the only brewery I know of that makes an Oyster Stout so... sounds like a perfect match to me! Five courses of food with eight killer brews. $80 includes all. 7pm. Reservations at 540-338-9800 or http://magnoliasmill.com.

Saturday, March 17th: The Beer Academy with Greg Engert at Rustico, Ballston ?
Two spots left!!! (as of January 29) The topic: Local Brewing and Sourcing. Details at 571-384-1820 or www.rusticorestaurant.com.

Saturday, March 17th: Capital Ale House St Patrick's Day Celebrations, all locations ?
10+ different Irish and Scottish Ales on tap and at least ten more in the bottle. Plus, a new Irish menu for 2012. Details at www.CapitalAleHouse.com.

Sunday, March 18th: Heavy Seas Beer Dinner at Da Luca, Crozet ?
6pm. Call the restaurant for more information. 434- 205- 4251 or www.hsbeer.com/da-luca.

Saturday, March 24th: The Beer Academy with Greg Engert at Rustico, Ballston ?
The topic: Local Brewing and Sourcing. Details at 571-384-1820 or www.rusticorestaurant.com.

Wednesday, April 11th: Anderson Valley Dinner at Tuscarora Mill, Leesburg ?
Featuring some of their solid brews such as their ESB, Porter, Oatmeal Stout, and some of their specialty Belgian styles as well.. $85 includes all. 7pm. Menu and reservations at www.tuskies.com.

Saturday, April 14th: New River Brewfest, Radford ?
Featuring local micro-breweries, catered food, and local musicians for entertainment. At Nesselrod Bed & Breakfast. Noon to 6pm. http://nesselrod.com/Brewfest/index.html.

Saturday, April 14th: The Beer Academy with Greg Engert at Rustico, Ballston ?
One spot left!!! (as of February 29) The topic: Sour Ales: The Old and the New. Details at 571-384-1820 or www.rusticorestaurant.com.

Monday, April 16th: Catoctin Creek Whiskey Dinner at Mad Fox, Falls Church ?
Five courses prepared by Chef Russel, four Spirits from Catoctin Creek, and one beer from Mad fox that has been Barrel-Aged for at least six months. 7pm. Tickets and menu at http://madfoxbrewing.com.

Saturday, June 9th: The Beer Academy with Greg Engert at Rustico, Ballston ?
Two spots left!!! (as of February 29) The topic: Barrel-Aged Beers. Details at 571-384-1820 or www.rusticorestaurant.com.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 03, 2012, 10:22:27 am
^^^  thanks jag . . . awesome.

hey, james, here it is.

once or twice a year i stumble upon a beer haul, a holy grail grab of sorts, where my local beer shoppe in its country charm simply out does itself.  i call these days, "scoring the moutherlode."

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/418538_3114167906318_1628062159_2734924_949372717_n.jpg)


anderson valley brewing   brother davids triple

dogfish head   aprihop

founders  curmudgeon better half

dogfish head  120 minute ipa

north coast brewery   old stock ale

[others not pictured]

stone   cali-belgie  ipa

founders  double trouble

troegs  nugget nectar

almazo  pilsner  (lebanon)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2012, 09:50:39 am
(http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/15711/157116674e1c690d2a85c6f4b9fc80b04b3e8f83.jpg)

Sometimes the cost of living just blows my mind in this damn city. In Pittsburgh this weekend and this "hop cellar" had $4 bottles of Hopslam.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:15:35 am
Pizza Paradiso in Georgetown had Hopslam on draft for $4 and it lasted 2+ days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2012, 10:29:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:15:35 am
Pizza Paradiso in Georgetown had Hopslam on draft for $4 and it lasted 2+ days.

But that means hanging out in Georgetown.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:38:21 am
Home of my favorite pizza/beer place, favorite gelato place, and an underused playground to take the kid to and sober up in before driving (a straight shot) home to the VA burbs. What's not to love?  :)

Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2012, 10:29:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:15:35 am
Pizza Paradiso in Georgetown had Hopslam on draft for $4 and it lasted 2+ days.

But that means hanging out in Georgetown.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2012, 10:41:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:38:21 am
Home of my favorite pizza/beer place, favorite gelato place, and an underused playground to take the kid to and sober up in before driving (a straight shot) home to the VA burbs. What's not to love?  :)

Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2012, 10:29:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:15:35 am
Pizza Paradiso in Georgetown had Hopslam on draft for $4 and it lasted 2+ days.

But that means hanging out in Georgetown.

^^drives drunk with child in the car^^  :o :o :o

j/k... kind of.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:55:17 am
Never. Typically we split two or three beers between two people and don't drive for 2.5 hours. And neither of us are featherweights. At that point we're well below the legal limit.

Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2012, 10:41:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:38:21 am
Home of my favorite pizza/beer place, favorite gelato place, and an underused playground to take the kid to and sober up in before driving (a straight shot) home to the VA burbs. What's not to love?  :)

Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2012, 10:29:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:15:35 am
Pizza Paradiso in Georgetown had Hopslam on draft for $4 and it lasted 2+ days.

But that means hanging out in Georgetown.

^^drives drunk with child in the car^^  :o :o :o

j/k... kind of.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on March 05, 2012, 11:45:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:55:17 am
Never. Typically we split two or three beers between two people and don't drive for 2.5 hours. And neither of us are featherweights. At that point we're well below the legal limit.

Nothing like a father and daughter sharing a beer together.  :D

j/k  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 11:48:31 am
So far, she's turned down all beer offers. Damn straightedge kids these days, she doesn't know what she's missing.

 ;D
Quote from: Jaguar on March 05, 2012, 11:45:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:55:17 am
Never. Typically we split two or three beers between two people and don't drive for 2.5 hours. And neither of us are featherweights. At that point we're well below the legal limit.

Nothing like a father and daughter sharing a beer together.  :D

j/k  ;)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2012, 12:14:18 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 11:48:31 am
So far, she's turned down all beer offers. Damn straightedge kids these days, she doesn't know what she's missing.

 ;D
Quote from: Jaguar on March 05, 2012, 11:45:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:55:17 am
Never. Typically we split two or three beers between two people and don't drive for 2.5 hours. And neither of us are featherweights. At that point we're well below the legal limit.

Nothing like a father and daughter sharing a beer together.  :D

j/k  ;)


I was sipping foam off my grandpa's Schlitz at the ripe old age of four, no wonder I turned out the way I did.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 12:17:29 pm
I exhibited beer snobbishness early on when I spit out a sip of my dad's friend's Budweiser when I was eight or so. Didn't try beer again for a number of years, and then I insisted on the good stuff. Like Labatt's or Molson Golden.

Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2012, 12:14:18 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 11:48:31 am
So far, she's turned down all beer offers. Damn straightedge kids these days, she doesn't know what she's missing.

 ;D
Quote from: Jaguar on March 05, 2012, 11:45:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:55:17 am
Never. Typically we split two or three beers between two people and don't drive for 2.5 hours. And neither of us are featherweights. At that point we're well below the legal limit.

Nothing like a father and daughter sharing a beer together.  :D

j/k  ;)


I was sipping foam off my grandpa's Schlitz at the ripe old age of four, no wonder I turned out the way I did.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 05, 2012, 12:24:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 12:17:29 pm
then I insisted on the good stuff. Like Labatt's or Molson Golden.

effen snob!

;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 05, 2012, 01:08:48 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 12:17:29 pm
Molson Golden


The gold standard back when I started.  Only bought it when I planned on sitting back and enjoying a few.  As opposed to the times I attempted to drink as much as I could as quickly as I could.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 05, 2012, 03:42:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 11:48:31 am
So far, she's turned down all beer offers. Damn straightedge kids these days, she doesn't know what she's missing.

 ;D
Quote from: Jaguar on March 05, 2012, 11:45:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2012, 10:55:17 am
Never. Typically we split two or three beers between two people and don't drive for 2.5 hours. And neither of us are featherweights. At that point we're well below the legal limit.

Nothing like a father and daughter sharing a beer together.  :D

j/k  ;)


http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/craft-beer-ale-a-parody-of-dr-seuss-green-eggs-ham/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 06, 2012, 10:22:43 am
What does anyone know about this brew??

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/27039/16814

Up there with the coveted hopslam?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 06, 2012, 10:47:43 am
I know if you've gone to Vermont and brought some back home, you need to come to my house and share.

 ;D

Have not had it but would like to.

Within a three hour drive of where I grew up, so maybe I'll get some at some point. Or maybe they'll expand distribution.

Quote from: Yada on March 06, 2012, 10:22:43 am
What does anyone know about this brew??

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/27039/16814

Up there with the coveted hopslam?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 06, 2012, 11:09:16 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 06, 2012, 10:47:43 am
I know if you've gone to Vermont and brought some back home, you need to come to my house and share.

 ;D

Have not had it but would like to.

Within a three hour drive of where I grew up, so maybe I'll get some at some point. Or maybe they'll expand distribution.

Quote from: Yada on March 06, 2012, 10:22:43 am
What does anyone know about this brew??

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/27039/16814

Up there with the coveted hopslam?

I should have a half case in the coming weeks.  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 06, 2012, 11:25:07 am
Just saw that they distribute to Bennington, which is a half hour from where a college friend lives, who I visit each summer. Hmmmmm.


Quote from: Yada on March 06, 2012, 11:09:16 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 06, 2012, 10:47:43 am
I know if you've gone to Vermont and brought some back home, you need to come to my house and share.

 ;D

Have not had it but would like to.

Within a three hour drive of where I grew up, so maybe I'll get some at some point. Or maybe they'll expand distribution.

Quote from: Yada on March 06, 2012, 10:22:43 am
What does anyone know about this brew??

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/27039/16814

Up there with the coveted hopslam?

I should have a half case in the coming weeks.  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 06, 2012, 11:59:33 am
I've had it.....worth the hype

I believe Smoke and Barrel BBQ on U Street has it (and had it on draft last week)

Quote from: Yada on March 06, 2012, 10:22:43 am
What does anyone know about this brew??

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/27039/16814

Up there with the coveted hopslam?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 06, 2012, 01:08:16 pm
Wow, quite an IPA lineup at Dupont Pizza Paradiso for half price happy hour tonight.

Ballast Point Sculpin
Stone Ruination
Avery Maharaja
DC Brau Amageddon
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 06, 2012, 01:29:28 pm
today is my birthday . . . and i am getting so fucking drunk today . . .  starting now.  oh hell yeah!!!

plus, before i lapse into a hop induced coma . . . i don't get the bells hopslam.  and no this is not a rage of someone who did not get it.  yes i did not get it this year.  barely missed out.  oh well.  but i have tried four other bells beers; three of which were bad; one of which was down right shit; with the fourth being average at best (amber / best brown / winter white / oberon).  so is the hopslam really worth the hype.  i don't believe written reviews, only people i can speak with who have drank it.  i just can't buy that it is good . . . but what do i know; i used to think mickey's big mouth beer was the shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 06, 2012, 01:56:42 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 06, 2012, 01:29:28 pm
today is my birthday . . . and i am getting so fucking drunk today . . .  starting now.  oh hell yeah!!!

plus, before i lapse into a hop induced coma . . . i don't get the bells hopslam.  and no this is not a rage of someone who did not get it.  yes i did not get it this year.  barely missed out.  oh well.  but i have tried four other bells beers; three of which were bad; one of which was down right shit; with the fourth being average at best (amber / best brown / winter white / oberon).  so is the hopslam really worth the hype.  i don't believe written reviews, only people i can speak with who have drank it.  i just can't buy that it is good . . . but what do i know; i used to think mickey's big mouth beer was the shit.

$25 a six pack good, questionable... Good, yes.... However, my love of Bells other than Two Hearted Ale has gone down the tubes as of late. They really don't put that great of beer other than Hopslam/Two hearted IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 06, 2012, 02:21:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 06, 2012, 01:56:42 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 06, 2012, 01:29:28 pm
today is my birthday . . . and i am getting so fucking drunk today . . .  starting now.  oh hell yeah!!!

plus, before i lapse into a hop induced coma . . . i don't get the bells hopslam.  and no this is not a rage of someone who did not get it.  yes i did not get it this year.  barely missed out.  oh well.  but i have tried four other bells beers; three of which were bad; one of which was down right shit; with the fourth being average at best (amber / best brown / winter white / oberon).  so is the hopslam really worth the hype.  i don't believe written reviews, only people i can speak with who have drank it.  i just can't buy that it is good . . . but what do i know; i used to think mickey's big mouth beer was the shit.

$25 a six pack good, questionable... Good, yes.... However, my love of Bells other than Two Hearted Ale has gone down the tubes as of late. They really don't put that great of beer other than Hopslam/Two hearted IMO.

Hopslam is not worth $25.  It is a decent annual treat, but I couldn't/wouldn't drink it all the time.  Two Hearted is one of my go-tos.  I have 5/6ths of a sixer of Bells Kalamazoo Stout, still in my beer fridge.  Stuff is nearly undrinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 06, 2012, 02:22:34 pm
Totally agree with Yada, though I'll add the Double Cream Stout as being good.

I recently had a bottle of the Expedition Imperial Stout, and it was meh. Maybe because i sat on it for a year and a half, but from what i had read that one was supposed to get better with age.

And the  $12 i paid  for Nugget Nectar six pack makes the $20 I paid for Hopslam seem like a ripoff. Still, glad i got a sixer of hopslam. And regarding hopslam: drink it quick. Just had a bottom fro mthe late January batch the other day and it's already fading badly.


Quote from: Yada on March 06, 2012, 01:56:42 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 06, 2012, 01:29:28 pm
today is my birthday . . . and i am getting so fucking drunk today . . .  starting now.  oh hell yeah!!!

plus, before i lapse into a hop induced coma . . . i don't get the bells hopslam.  and no this is not a rage of someone who did not get it.  yes i did not get it this year.  barely missed out.  oh well.  but i have tried four other bells beers; three of which were bad; one of which was down right shit; with the fourth being average at best (amber / best brown / winter white / oberon).  so is the hopslam really worth the hype.  i don't believe written reviews, only people i can speak with who have drank it.  i just can't buy that it is good . . . but what do i know; i used to think mickey's big mouth beer was the shit.

$25 a six pack good, questionable... Good, yes.... However, my love of Bells other than Two Hearted Ale has gone down the tubes as of late. They really don't put that great of beer other than Hopslam/Two hearted IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on March 06, 2012, 02:51:32 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 06, 2012, 02:22:34 pm
Totally agree with Yada, though I'll add the Double Cream Stout as being good.

I recently had a bottle of the Expedition Imperial Stout, and it was meh. Maybe because i sat on it for a year and a half, but from what i had read that one was supposed to get better with age.

And the  $12 i paid  for Nugget Nectar six pack makes the $20 I paid for Hopslam seem like a ripoff. Still, glad i got a sixer of hopslam. And regarding hopslam: drink it quick. Just had a bottom fro mthe late January batch the other day and it's already fading badly.


Quote from: Yada on March 06, 2012, 01:56:42 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 06, 2012, 01:29:28 pm
today is my birthday . . . and i am getting so fucking drunk today . . .  starting now.  oh hell yeah!!!

plus, before i lapse into a hop induced coma . . . i don't get the bells hopslam.  and no this is not a rage of someone who did not get it.  yes i did not get it this year.  barely missed out.  oh well.  but i have tried four other bells beers; three of which were bad; one of which was down right shit; with the fourth being average at best (amber / best brown / winter white / oberon).  so is the hopslam really worth the hype.  i don't believe written reviews, only people i can speak with who have drank it.  i just can't buy that it is good . . . but what do i know; i used to think mickey's big mouth beer was the shit.

$25 a six pack good, questionable... Good, yes.... However, my love of Bells other than Two Hearted Ale has gone down the tubes as of late. They really don't put that great of beer other than Hopslam/Two hearted IMO.

Amber, Winter White, and Oberon just aren't very good.  A lot of people love Oberon, but I've never been a fan and I'm a huge Bell's fan.  Best Brown, i happen to really like, but that's with tempered expectations, it's just a brown ale.. nothing special, but I do think it's a solid brown ale, actually one of my favorites.

I think Bell's wheel house really is in their limited/seasonal release stuff.  Outside of Two Hearted, their year round lineup doesn't have anything that great, but I wouldn't call any of it bad; for my money they're easily a top two or three brewery with a solid lineup, but that is leaning on their seasonal offerings.

But if you haven't had anything you liked, try Hopslam (not at $25 though), Double Cream Stout, or two hearted.  I've never seen the Oracle (DIPA) in these parts, but it's really good as well.  Also, if you need a winter/christmas beer.. go for their Christmas Ale, way better than Winter White is admittedly quite boring.  Bell's definitely makes good beer, give them another shot.. and then proceed with hating them if they don't live up to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 06, 2012, 03:19:26 pm
 
Quote from: walkonby on March 06, 2012, 01:29:28 pm


Hopslam is not worth $25.  It is a decent annual treat, but I couldn't/wouldn't drink it all the time.  Two Hearted is one of my go-tos.  I have 5/6ths of a sixer of Bells Kalamazoo Stout, still in my beer fridge.  Stuff is nearly undrinkable.

I agree... that Stoudt is just plain awful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 06, 2012, 04:26:31 pm
http://www.foundersbrewing.com/the-lineup/kbs

not even going to try for this . . . the demand out here is ravenous.  growing tired of beer fanantics ruining my fanaticism!


http://bites.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/01/10550126-the-beer-diet-exists-and-its-a-bad-idea

here, have a laugh on me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on March 06, 2012, 05:10:00 pm
Enjoyed one of these last night:  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/25191/75707

I cannot wait till he moves the brewery to within biking distance of me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 06, 2012, 05:59:36 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 06, 2012, 04:26:31 pm
not even going to try for this . . . the demand out here is ravenous.  growing tired of beer fanantics ruining my fanaticism!


Would love to try the stuff.  Will have to keep waiting, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 07, 2012, 12:14:11 pm
Maharaja replaced by Hopslam

So that means $4 drafts of Hopslam, Sculpin, and Ruination at happy hour today.


Quote from: James Ford on March 06, 2012, 01:08:16 pm
Wow, quite an IPA lineup at Dupont Pizza Paradiso for half price happy hour tonight.

Ballast Point Sculpin
Stone Ruination
Avery Maharaja
DC Brau Amageddon
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 07, 2012, 12:16:15 pm
i better quit all this taking it in the ass, and get up there!   ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 07, 2012, 08:49:57 pm
was driving by one of my local beeer shopazoids, and did not really need to stop, but did anyway.  was proud that i only bought two things but they were both new to me, so it was good.


dogfish head   burton baton

sneaky pete   ipa  (the dog on the bottle is so cute)


can someone . . . gee i wonder who . . . please inform me on the proper storage times (in months) according to alcohol %, say from nine percent to thirteen percent?  thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 07, 2012, 09:56:26 pm
Store 9-13 abv as long as you want, as long as it's not a hoppy ipa.

Burton Baton is an outstanding beer, and though it is an ipa, is not really a hop forward one, so they (Dogfish, I read a message board thread posted by Sam's wife) say it's a good one to age.

Side note on Burton Baton: Jon Langford of the Mekons and the Waco Brothers did the bottle art.



Quote from: walkonby on March 07, 2012, 08:49:57 pm
was driving by one of my local beeer shopazoids, and did not really need to stop, but did anyway.  was proud that i only bought two things but they were both new to me, so it was good.


dogfish head   burton baton

sneaky pete   ipa  (the dog on the bottle is so cute)


can someone . . . gee i wonder who . . . please inform me on the proper storage times (in months) according to alcohol %, say from nine percent to thirteen percent?  thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 08, 2012, 10:15:11 am
frisco Grille in columbia is going to start brewing soon.  They always have a good selection, so hopefully their beer will be great!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 10, 2012, 06:28:17 pm
http://www.foundersbrewing.com/blog/beer-releases/kbs-release-party

kbs release makes some beer fans hate founders brewery.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 10, 2012, 11:42:48 pm
from the beer advocate boards:

TapeDeck said: ↑

I blame myself for not getting KBS, as I got there at 6:30. I assumed that would be early enough (4.5 hours early)
 I was right. It would have been, we're I one of the other 6:30 groups... We were at the doors when they ran out. We were in the first 10 to fail.
Lot's of line jumping.
 That's life. That's a bummer.
 
However,
 
I am totally done with Founders. That will save me hundreds.
 They wait until 15 minutes before open, to hand out tickets.
This is intentional. They had guys coming and checking out the line.
 
They could have saved a few hundred people a whole day of standing out in freezing weather and whipping wind by handing out the tickets once the line reached an obvious capacity.
At 6:30, we were in front of the brewery, and the line wrapped all the way around. By 7 it had overlapped.
 We could see this. They could see this. We waited 4 hours because we road tripped 4 hours to get there. When they passed out tickets (over 600) we were about 20 behind the last ticket.
 
Again, missing out is our fault, not theirs.
 But they knew they couldn't support the demand, and they let people stand out there without a heads up for at least 5 hours before giving out any word.
 
By that time, we decided we were pot committed, and waited it out.

We wouldn't have made the road trip for 3 4 packs.
 We wouldn't wait outside overnight for this beer (it's great. But there are plenty of great bbl options right now, and a few I like more.)
 It's not laziness to try to make a considered decision on when to arrive for a beer. And again, not Founders fault that we missed it.
 
But for cutting the allotment (more or less invalidating the purpose of the trip... If I want to add $100 in gas to the cost of the beer, I know I can get 3 4 packs) and for watching from the rooftop (literally) and walking the grounds, knowing that most of these folks are screwed... And saying NOTHING...
 
THAT makes it one less craft brew for me. Yay, more for you guys. Enjoy the hype train.


Quote from: walkonby on March 10, 2012, 06:28:17 pm
http://www.foundersbrewing.com/blog/beer-releases/kbs-release-party

kbs release makes some beer fans hate founders brewery.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 11, 2012, 07:31:48 pm
i had kbs at rustico-ballston last year. guess i was lucky?  it was one of the best beers i've had, but didn't realize it was one of the rare, ridiculous demand beers.  do they bottle it? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 11, 2012, 09:56:14 pm
i'm drinking this . . . yum!


(http://m5.paperblog.com/i/12/124831/beer-review-lagunitas-hop-stoopid-L-y2XnAu.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2012, 10:05:01 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 11, 2012, 07:31:48 pm
i had kbs at rustico-ballston last year. guess i was lucky?  it was one of the best beers i've had, but didn't realize it was one of the rare, ridiculous demand beers.  do they bottle it? 


yes it's sold in bottles.  not quite CBS status, but KBS is getting there.

i stopped in to the Big Hunt on friday and ordered a non-regional, plain-ol' breakfast stout.  i was surprised when they served it to me in a pint glass.  last time i had it on draft, it was at the church key where it came in a 8 oz chalice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 12, 2012, 09:31:46 am
Smoke and Barrel in Adams Morgan had Heady Topper on draft this weekend...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 12, 2012, 09:42:16 am
Half price growler refills this Friday only at Whole Foods.

Not sure if it applies to all Whole Foods with draft lines, but I know it does to Vienna and Springfield.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 12, 2012, 11:52:31 am
Was able to find a sixer of Hopslam last week. Bottled 2/9/12, too (second batch as James mentioned earlier). I'll take it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 12, 2012, 01:29:07 pm
I've had my fill of hopslam so not looking for more...but just out of curiosity...where?

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 12, 2012, 11:52:31 am
Was able to find a sixer of Hopslam last week. Bottled 2/9/12, too (second batch as James mentioned earlier). I'll take it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 12, 2012, 01:38:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 12, 2012, 01:29:07 pm
I've had my fill of hopslam so not looking for more...but just out of curiosity...where?

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 12, 2012, 11:52:31 am
Was able to find a sixer of Hopslam last week. Bottled 2/9/12, too (second batch as James mentioned earlier). I'll take it!

lol.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on March 12, 2012, 02:08:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 12, 2012, 09:31:46 am
Smoke and Barrel in Adams Morgan had Heady Topper on draft this weekend...

On draft?  I was there Saturday, I believe they only had 16 oz cans, $9 each.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 12, 2012, 03:13:38 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on March 12, 2012, 02:08:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 12, 2012, 09:31:46 am
Smoke and Barrel in Adams Morgan had Heady Topper on draft this weekend...

On draft?  I was there Saturday, I believe they only had 16 oz cans, $9 each.

Maybe it was... friend texted me from there saying they had it, I assumed draft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 12, 2012, 03:54:58 pm
I may have to retract my Bells statement from last week. Dug into some Bells Amber Ales over the wekend and it's a pretty tasty/drinkable session brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 12, 2012, 03:59:11 pm
But why waste time on drinking session brews when there's so many good high abv beers to sample?
 ;D
Quote from: Yada on March 12, 2012, 03:54:58 pm
I may have to retract my Bells statement from last week. Dug into some Bells Amber Ales over the wekend and it's a pretty tasty/drinkable session brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 12, 2012, 04:21:32 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 12, 2012, 03:59:11 pm
But why waste time on drinking session brews when there's so many good high abv beers to sample?
 ;D
Quote from: Yada on March 12, 2012, 03:54:58 pm
I may have to retract my Bells statement from last week. Dug into some Bells Amber Ales over the wekend and it's a pretty tasty/drinkable session brew.

Yard work = need an easy beer to slug.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 13, 2012, 09:09:35 am
Quote from: Yada on March 12, 2012, 03:13:38 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on March 12, 2012, 02:08:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 12, 2012, 09:31:46 am
Smoke and Barrel in Adams Morgan had Heady Topper on draft this weekend...

On draft?  I was there Saturday, I believe they only had 16 oz cans, $9 each.

Maybe it was... friend texted me from there saying they had it, I assumed draft.

They snagged two cases of the cans two weeks ago. Figure it's dwindling down.  If they have it on draft... oh my.  If I go tonight (taco tuesday!), I'll report back.

edit: https://twitter.com/#!/BeerBBQBourbon/status/177882178221383680 (https://twitter.com/#!/BeerBBQBourbon/status/177882178221383680) - just cans it seems.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 13, 2012, 12:53:51 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on March 12, 2012, 02:08:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 12, 2012, 09:31:46 am
Smoke and Barrel in Adams Morgan had Heady Topper on draft this weekend...

On draft?  I was there Saturday, I believe they only had 16 oz cans, $9 each.
they had it on draft a few weeks ago - now just cans
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 14, 2012, 07:15:39 pm
i had some amazing beers last week in dallas, the two highlights were:

- Deep Ellum Dreamcrusher Double Rye IPA (info (http://www.deepellumbrewing.com/blog/2012/02/28/dreamcrusher-double-rye-ipa-2/)): mr. ford would LOVE this one.  gawd, it almost made a hop-head out of me.  the rye gives this one a mild toasty biscuit flavor to go along with the bitterness.  i got 2 pints before it sold out... at an unsuspecting 9.7%, that was probably a good thing.  draft pints were $6 (it was launch night) otherwise it sells for $14 or more per 22oz, when you can find it.  i've had other offerings from Deep Ellum and i thought they were merely ok but this one is worth tracking down.  unfortunately i don't think they distribute very widely.  yet.

- Boulevard Chocolate Ale (info (http://www.boulevard.com/BoulevardBeers/chocolate-ale)) - they've mastered the use of bitter chocolate instead of hops.  color was remarkably light & clear.  so damn tasty, probably because it was a lot maltier than anything i've ever had in the genre.  really unique.  bonus: it was glass night so i got to keep my Boulevard Brewery pint glass.

in other news:

Frederick Beer Week 2012
May 11-19
http://frederickbeer.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Frederick-Beer-Week/189388711096750?sk=wall
(not a lot of info yet, more announcements to come.  very much geared towards craft & home brews)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 15, 2012, 03:05:35 pm
Looks like KBS is starting to pop up in stores. No word on any DC locations, but I saw a tweet that Massachusetts only got 45 cases total.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 15, 2012, 03:32:17 pm
My wife grabbed two four packs last year. i'l be happy with one this year.

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 15, 2012, 03:05:35 pm
Looks like KBS is starting to pop up in stores. No word on any DC locations, but I saw a tweet that Massachusetts only got 45 cases total.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 15, 2012, 05:20:54 pm
First sighting of DFH 75 min in MoCo yesterday...haven't opened it yet
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 15, 2012, 11:08:21 pm
Quote from: grateful on March 15, 2012, 05:20:54 pm
First sighting of DFH 75 min in MoCo yesterday...haven't opened it yet

got it where i live . . . where the deer and the antelope play.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chip Chanko on March 16, 2012, 12:17:39 am
Lately I've been happy just getting Sierra Nevada Torpedo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 16, 2012, 11:06:01 am
My wife just picked up a 64 oz growler of Nugget Nectar for $8 and one of Double Trouble for $10. Woohoo.

And the deal is good at all NoVA Whole Foods with draft lines.

Quote from: James Ford on March 12, 2012, 09:42:16 am
Half price growler refills this Friday only at Whole Foods.

Not sure if it applies to all Whole Foods with draft lines, but I know it does to Vienna and Springfield.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on March 19, 2012, 01:21:27 pm
If anyone is into spiced beer or molé.
New Belgium's Cocoa Molé is pretty damn tasty, especially for pairing.
Get some queso blanco or panela and some tortillas and you're set.
It's got a little heat to it so I wouldn't pair it with something too spicy.
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/422164_10150573446068123_45359888122_9395258_1502861450_s.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 21, 2012, 08:57:00 am
(http://cinemagraphs.com/images/demo/dogfish9-429.gif)

Picked up a bomber of the 75min IPA last night, haven't sampled it yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 21, 2012, 10:26:39 am
excited to try 75 minute.  looking out for it on cask.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: moeszyslak on March 21, 2012, 10:40:37 am
I found KBS at Total Wine last night.  They sold me 1.  1 beer that is.  They said that they had 3 cases being sold as 72 individual beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 21, 2012, 10:59:34 am
i am completely not a fan of that tactic.  one of my shops tries that now and again.  i get the desire to "let everyone taste" and i guess i have to applaud that . . . but one beer?  do you drink it or just stare at it?  i wrote to founders and asked them why don't you just brew the damn beer more than just once and let it be a quad release?  jeez, is that so hard.  think of the jobs . . . think of the money to be made.

dogfish head realized that releasing 120 minute again, was very profitable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 21, 2012, 11:10:43 am
Quote from: moeszslak on March 21, 2012, 10:40:37 am
I found KBS at Total Wine last night.  They sold me 1.  1 beer that is.  They said that they had 3 cases being sold as 72 individual beers.


What'd they charge you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 21, 2012, 11:14:36 am
Quote from: walkonby on March 21, 2012, 10:59:34 am


dogfish head realized that releasing 120 minute again, was very profitable.

But that beer tastes like shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: moeszyslak on March 21, 2012, 11:18:05 am
Quote from: Bagley on March 21, 2012, 11:10:43 am
Quote from: moeszslak on March 21, 2012, 10:40:37 am
I found KBS at Total Wine last night.  They sold me 1.  1 beer that is.  They said that they had 3 cases being sold as 72 individual beers.


What'd they charge you?

$5.99 per beer.  I really thought he was joking when he handed me 1 beer.  The good news is that Double Trouble was almost overstocked, they had 6 or so cases.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 21, 2012, 11:47:55 am
If both you and your partner each score one from two different stores, you have yourself a four pack.

I usually ask my work at home wife to do my beer dirty work for hot beers like this, but asking her to run out and grab one 12 oz beer is a bit of a stretch.

I drive by a couple of places that will have it. I'm hoping they will still have some after i get off work. Not going to leave work early just for beer. Especially when I still have a four pack of 2011 KBS.  ;D


Quote from: walkonby on March 21, 2012, 10:59:34 am
i am completely not a fan of that tactic.  one of my shops tries that now and again.  i get the desire to "let everyone taste" and i guess i have to applaud that . . . but one beer?  do you drink it or just stare at it?  i wrote to founders and asked them why don't you just brew the damn beer more than just once and let it be a quad release?  jeez, is that so hard.  think of the jobs . . . think of the money to be made.

dogfish head realized that releasing 120 minute again, was very profitable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 21, 2012, 11:51:24 am
Quote from: moeszslak on March 21, 2012, 10:40:37 am
I found KBS at Total Wine last night.  They sold me 1.  1 beer that is.  They said that they had 3 cases being sold as 72 individual beers.

was that a bomber, or a 12 oz?

Quote from: walkonby on March 21, 2012, 10:59:34 am
i am completely not a fan of that tactic.  one of my shops tries that now and again.  i get the desire to "let everyone taste" and i guess i have to applaud that . . . but one beer?  do you drink it or just stare at it?  i wrote to founders and asked them why don't you just brew the damn beer more than just once and let it be a quad release?  jeez, is that so hard.  think of the jobs . . . think of the money to be made.

dogfish head realized that releasing 120 minute again, was very profitable.

i'd learn ya some marketing, but i'd be afraid you'd dismiss it all as a conspiracy ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 21, 2012, 11:59:40 am
KBS is on 12 oz bottle only.

Quote from: sweetcell on March 21, 2012, 11:51:24 am
Quote from: moeszslak on March 21, 2012, 10:40:37 am
I found KBS at Total Wine last night.  They sold me 1.  1 beer that is.  They said that they had 3 cases being sold as 72 individual beers.

was that a bomber, or a 12 oz?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 21, 2012, 12:05:08 pm
Anybody heard if the upcoming Founders expansion will thereby increase the amount of KBS produced in future years?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 21, 2012, 12:52:45 pm
http://www.foundersbrewing.com/blog

"It would be misleading to say that everyone will get an allocation of KBS next year, but we can assure you that we are producing approximately three times the volume for the 2013 release. "
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 21, 2012, 01:11:26 pm
any news of places serving KBS on draft?

has anyone spotted Founders in Maryland yet? (reminder (http://dcbeer.com/2012/02/03/founders-to-expand-into-maryland-high-fives-all-around/))

Quote from: James Ford on March 21, 2012, 12:05:08 pm
Anybody heard if the upcoming Founders expansion will thereby increase the amount of KBS produced in future years?

of all the articles i've read about the expansion, not a single one has mentioned a specific brew.  they only talk about overall capacity increases.  KBS and CBS are aged in bourbon barrels, i wonder if that is the limiting factor (well, they're described as being aged in barrels, but the taste can be achieved by cutting up barrels and adding the wood to the fermenter... so who knows).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 21, 2012, 02:24:33 pm
Not sure how credible this is...but there is no date for Maryland yet  :'(

http://mybeerbuzz.blogspot.com/2012/03/founders-brewing-to-enter-iowa-market.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 21, 2012, 02:28:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 21, 2012, 01:11:26 pm
any news of places serving KBS on draft?

has anyone spotted Founders in Maryland yet? (reminder (http://dcbeer.com/2012/02/03/founders-to-expand-into-maryland-high-fives-all-around/))

Quote from: James Ford on March 21, 2012, 12:05:08 pm
Anybody heard if the upcoming Founders expansion will thereby increase the amount of KBS produced in future years?

of all the articles i've read about the expansion, not a single one has mentioned a specific brew.  they only talk about overall capacity increases.  KBS and CBS are aged in bourbon barrels, i wonder if that is the limiting factor (well, they're described as being aged in barrels, but the taste can be achieved by cutting up barrels and adding the wood to the fermenter... so who knows).

Don't think it's distributed in MD.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 21, 2012, 03:01:09 pm
Had the wife go to Rodman's yesterday since she works nearby and was able to pick up two bottles of KBS. Still have yet to buy an actual four-pack of this stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 21, 2012, 03:49:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 21, 2012, 11:14:36 am
Quote from: walkonby on March 21, 2012, 10:59:34 am


dogfish head realized that releasing 120 minute again, was very profitable.

But that beer tastes like shit.

you really think?  i hope not.  i had one last year.  the whole "you get one" deal.  i drank it not long after buying . . . thinking huh, what was all that money for?  the next time the store had it, i almost passed, told my story, and the kind man told me it was because i did not age it.  store it for 6 months, even up to a year, he said, then try it.  i've loved all other dogfishhead timed ipas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 21, 2012, 04:23:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 21, 2012, 02:28:17 pm
Don't think it's distributed in MD.

yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 21, 2012, 04:44:09 pm
KBS on tap at Big Hunt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 22, 2012, 12:10:13 pm
thanks for the heads up - had KBS at big hunt last night.  rolled in at 9 and was surprised they still had some left.  $9 for 12oz... about what i expected.  worth it, love that beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 23, 2012, 07:07:25 am
have managed to locate 6 bottles of KBS this year - significantly down from the 16 i snagged last year
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 23, 2012, 08:19:55 am
Three for me, though there's a chance i may get some more.
My wife told me she doesn't like the stuff anymore, that I have to drink whatever I get by myself. Oh, such punishment.

Quote from: brennser on March 23, 2012, 07:07:25 am
have managed to locate 6 bottles of KBS this year - significantly down from the 16 i snagged last year
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 26, 2012, 12:58:27 pm
The Unibroue taster pack is back at Trader Joe's for a limited time only...$8.99/four pack.

I usually avoid taster packs because there's almosy always at least one beer I don't like in them. But this one have four damn good beers in it. And their four packs are normall around $10.99.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 26, 2012, 12:59:49 pm
I tried this beer at Rick's on Saturday. May have been the most disgusting beer I've ever tasted.


?New Belgium La Folie: This is the one we've all been waiting for. Ever since New Belgium announced it would be entering the NoVa market, the consistent question has been, "When will we see some La Folie?" Well, one of the best-known American Flanders-style sour brown ales is here now. The Beermudgeon hasn't tasted any of this since the first SAVOR event in 2008 and is looking forward to seeing how this brew (and his palate) have matured and evolved. ABV: 6.0%, $14.99/22 oz. Limit 1 bottle per customer, please.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2012, 08:56:20 am
Had a sixer of this this past weekend.

Delicious.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/20478

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2012, 10:18:14 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 26, 2012, 12:59:49 pm
I tried this beer at Rick's on Saturday. May have been the most disgusting beer I've ever tasted.


?New Belgium La Folie: This is the one we've all been waiting for. Ever since New Belgium announced it would be entering the NoVa market, the consistent question has been, "When will we see some La Folie?" Well, one of the best-known American Flanders-style sour brown ales is here now. The Beermudgeon hasn't tasted any of this since the first SAVOR event in 2008 and is looking forward to seeing how this brew (and his palate) have matured and evolved. ABV: 6.0%, $14.99/22 oz. Limit 1 bottle per customer, please.

sour beers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_ale) are pretty gross IMHO.  weird thing is. they're supposed to taste that way.  i don't get them.  they have a small, but strong, following.

a while back the club had Duchess de Bourgogne on tap upstairs.  also a sour, also not my thing - but reviews on BA are positive: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/641/1745.  go figure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 10:25:53 am
I've tried some sours that were at least tolerable...they were also pouring a "sour apple" beer...but this one was the worst. The guy pouring it said with glee "It's got that vinegary taste."

Why would I want to drink something that taste like vinegar?


Quote from: sweetcell on March 27, 2012, 10:18:14 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 26, 2012, 12:59:49 pm
I tried this beer at Rick's on Saturday. May have been the most disgusting beer I've ever tasted.


?New Belgium La Folie: This is the one we've all been waiting for. Ever since New Belgium announced it would be entering the NoVa market, the consistent question has been, "When will we see some La Folie?" Well, one of the best-known American Flanders-style sour brown ales is here now. The Beermudgeon hasn't tasted any of this since the first SAVOR event in 2008 and is looking forward to seeing how this brew (and his palate) have matured and evolved. ABV: 6.0%, $14.99/22 oz. Limit 1 bottle per customer, please.

sour beers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_ale) are pretty gross IMHO.  weird thing is. they're supposed to taste that way.  i don't get them.  they have a small, but strong, following.

a while back the club had Duchess de Bourgogne on tap upstairs.  also a sour, also not my thing - but reviews on BA are positive: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/641/1745.  go figure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 27, 2012, 10:30:00 am
Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 08:56:20 am
Had a sixer of this this past weekend.

Delicious.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/20478



call me confused . . . i thought that only came out in the fall, and only in 4 packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2012, 10:43:49 am
Quote from: walkonby on March 27, 2012, 10:30:00 am
Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 08:56:20 am
Had a sixer of this this past weekend.

Delicious.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/20478



call me confused . . . i thought that only came out in the fall, and only in 4 packs.

No clue, bought a six pack of it in Pittsburgh the same weekend I stocked up on Hopslam/Nugget Nectar. They were sold as singles so maybe they only do come in Four Packs normally?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on March 27, 2012, 10:46:44 am
Dogfish 75 is uber mediocre
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 27, 2012, 11:03:06 am
Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 10:43:49 am
Quote from: walkonby on March 27, 2012, 10:30:00 am
Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 08:56:20 am
Had a sixer of this this past weekend.

Delicious.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/20478




call me confused . . . i thought that only came out in the fall, and only in 4 packs.

No clue, bought a six pack of it in Pittsburgh the same weekend I stocked up on Hopslam/Nugget Nectar. They were sold as singles so maybe they only do come in Four Packs normally?

either way . . . i hate you.   ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 11:35:07 am
My wife just grabbed another four.

Contemplating if i want another four on top of that. Maybe that's too much? This is one of those distinct beers you have to be in the mood for, so don't want too many. Had half of one last night, was yummy.

Quote from: James Ford on March 23, 2012, 08:19:55 am
Three for me, though there's a chance i may get some more.
My wife told me she doesn't like the stuff anymore, that I have to drink whatever I get by myself. Oh, such punishment.

Quote from: brennser on March 23, 2012, 07:07:25 am
have managed to locate 6 bottles of KBS this year - significantly down from the 16 i snagged last year
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
All i'll say is you have to look where other people don't.
And sorry to anyone who has missed out...I've already previously promised any extras I may get to a friend...

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 27, 2012, 01:59:24 pm
Dang!

Not too shabby - yeah I had a line on some more at the weekend but it was $30 a 4 pack and I really couldn't justify it

Did have an epic beer tasting at the weekend with (among others), 2009 GL Blackout stout, 2011 GL Blackout Stout, 2001 Barrel Aged GLBS, 2011 and 2012 KBS, GI Big John, CBS, Blushing Monk, Pliny, Curmudegeons Better Half and a slew of other stuff

Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 11:35:07 am
My wife just grabbed another four.

Contemplating if i want another four on top of that. Maybe that's too much? This is one of those distinct beers you have to be in the mood for, so don't want too many. Had half of one last night, was yummy.

Quote from: James Ford on March 23, 2012, 08:19:55 am
Three for me, though there's a chance i may get some more.
My wife told me she doesn't like the stuff anymore, that I have to drink whatever I get by myself. Oh, such punishment.

Quote from: brennser on March 23, 2012, 07:07:25 am
have managed to locate 6 bottles of KBS this year - significantly down from the 16 i snagged last year
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2012, 02:09:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
All i'll say is you have to look where other people don't.
And sorry to anyone who has missed out...I've already previously promised any extras I may get to a friend...

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???

Beer secrets. LOLZ.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 02:34:11 pm
kind of like the beanie baby craze

Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 02:09:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
All i'll say is you have to look where other people don't.
And sorry to anyone who has missed out...I've already previously promised any extras I may get to a friend...

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???

Beer secrets. LOLZ.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2012, 02:58:07 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 27, 2012, 01:59:24 pm
Did have an epic beer tasting at the weekend with (among others), 2009 GL Blackout stout, 2011 GL Blackout Stout, 2001 Barrel Aged GLBS, 2011 and 2012 KBS, GI Big John, CBS, Blushing Monk, Pliny, Curmudegeons Better Half and a slew of other stuff

dang.  solid outing there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on March 27, 2012, 03:01:33 pm
Yeah, I managed to find ONE bottle.  I don't have the time/energy to go to too many places, but might have stopped at four or five and I've struck out everywhere.

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 02:34:11 pm
kind of like the beanie baby craze

Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 02:09:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
All i'll say is you have to look where other people don't.
And sorry to anyone who has missed out...I've already previously promised any extras I may get to a friend...

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???

Beer secrets. LOLZ.

childish people running around looking for these "rare, hard to find beers" and even more childish people boasting about their "secret locations" that you can't know about. 


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 04:04:02 pm
If something that I like a LOT is very limited in supply, and I've managed to find a good source for myself, why would I share it with a bunch of people on a message board and cut myself off in the future? What exactly is childish about that?


Quote from: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 02:34:11 pm
kind of like the beanie baby craze

Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 02:09:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
All i'll say is you have to look where other people don't.
And sorry to anyone who has missed out...I've already previously promised any extras I may get to a friend...

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???

Beer secrets. LOLZ.

childish people running around looking for these "rare, hard to find beers" and even more childish people boasting about their "secret locations" that you can't know about. 



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 04:04:37 pm
Speaking of sharing, here's a good one for everyone:

?27 Mar 2012 18:00 - 18:00
LAST CALL: HOPSLAM + KBS + NUGGET NECTAR + SCULPIN at Rustico Restaurant Ballston

LAST CALL: HOPSLAM + KBS + NUGGET NECTAR + SCULPIN!
TUESDAY MARCH 27 | 6PM | BALLSTON

Some big superstars make one final appearance of the season this coming Tuesday in Ballston. We?ve hid, saved up and fought off packs of wolves to keep these kegs safe and bring them to you on one night. We just can?t resist any longer. No admission to join, and all drafts served in 4 oz. tasters and full glass pours.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2012, 04:20:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 04:04:02 pm
If something that I like a LOT is very limited in supply, and I've managed to find a good source for myself, why would I share it with a bunch of people on a message board and cut myself off in the future? What exactly is childish about that?


Quote from: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 02:34:11 pm
kind of like the beanie baby craze

Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 02:09:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
All i'll say is you have to look where other people don't.
And sorry to anyone who has missed out...I've already previously promised any extras I may get to a friend...

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???

Beer secrets. LOLZ.

childish people running around looking for these "rare, hard to find beers" and even more childish people boasting about their "secret locations" that you can't know about. 




I think it's pretty lame... A few posts prior you said you didn't want anymore of the beer yet you won't reveal where it can be purchased. And truthfully, unless the beer mecca is in a convenient location to my house, I'm sure as hell not driving to Burbia', VA to pick up a bottle of it.

Furthermore, how many posters are on here on a regular basis?? 20 max?? How many of them care about said beer?? Maybe 5??? Of those five, who will actually drive and seek out where ever your secret location is?? I'm going with 0-1 max.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 27, 2012, 04:35:09 pm
Yeah, if there's anyone who's willing to send a little KBS love to a Marylander, LMK.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 27, 2012, 04:50:29 pm
I'm gonna swing by this on my way to the airport - a little KBS will make a late night trip to Arkansas all the more tolerable

Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 04:04:37 pm
Speaking of sharing, here's a good one for everyone:

?27 Mar 2012 18:00 - 18:00
LAST CALL: HOPSLAM + KBS + NUGGET NECTAR + SCULPIN at Rustico Restaurant Ballston

LAST CALL: HOPSLAM + KBS + NUGGET NECTAR + SCULPIN!
TUESDAY MARCH 27 | 6PM | BALLSTON

Some big superstars make one final appearance of the season this coming Tuesday in Ballston. We?ve hid, saved up and fought off packs of wolves to keep these kegs safe and bring them to you on one night. We just can?t resist any longer. No admission to join, and all drafts served in 4 oz. tasters and full glass pours.



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 27, 2012, 04:52:04 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 04:04:02 pm
If something that I like a LOT is very limited in supply, and I've managed to find a good source for myself, why would I share it with a bunch of people on a message board and cut myself off in the future? What exactly is childish about that?


I told you where I found a second batch of Hopslam after you asked me. Just sayin'...

In other words, check your PMs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 05:54:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 04:04:02 pm
If something that I like a LOT is very limited in supply, and I've managed to find a good source for myself, why would I share it with a bunch of people on a message board and cut myself off in the future? What exactly is childish about that?


Quote from: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 02:34:11 pm
kind of like the beanie baby craze

Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 02:09:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
All i'll say is you have to look where other people don't.
And sorry to anyone who has missed out...I've already previously promised any extras I may get to a friend...

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???

Beer secrets. LOLZ.

childish people running around looking for these "rare, hard to find beers" and even more childish people boasting about their "secret locations" that you can't know about. 




That's fine you have your secret place.  But it's yours, and you intend to keep it that way.  So why tell anyone that it exists in the first place? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 05:55:16 pm
The shipment to that store had been delayed. They got ten four packs. So ten lucky people. By the time my wife got there and got one  at 10am, a number of them had already been sold. By the time I got there at 5:15pm, they were long gone. The end.

Hint: Look for a beer store that doesn't have an online presence. Look for a beer store in a more blue collar suburban area, where asshole beer snobs tend not to live or even care to venture.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 05:56:37 pm
Maybe you're right and i just shouldn't have said anything. My bad. Apologies, if necessary.

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 05:54:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 04:04:02 pm
If something that I like a LOT is very limited in supply, and I've managed to find a good source for myself, why would I share it with a bunch of people on a message board and cut myself off in the future? What exactly is childish about that?


Quote from: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 02:34:11 pm
kind of like the beanie baby craze

Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 02:09:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
All i'll say is you have to look where other people don't.
And sorry to anyone who has missed out...I've already previously promised any extras I may get to a friend...

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???

Beer secrets. LOLZ.

childish people running around looking for these "rare, hard to find beers" and even more childish people boasting about their "secret locations" that you can't know about. 




That's fine you have your secret place.  But it's yours, and you intend to keep it that way.  So why tell anyone that it exists in the first place? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2012, 06:34:03 pm
personally, i'd rather be told that it's out there somewhere than not know about it at all.  then it boils down to how much effort i'm willing to put into finding the source.  luckily i didn't have time to work on this today, and it's now too late, because based on ford's description i wouldn't have found it anyways.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 07:02:52 pm
It's cool. apologies on "name-calling", bitching doesn't have much place in beer talk.  the rustico event looks fantastic - too bad i don't live out there anymore.

on the plus side - i found some four roses single barrel on my hunt for KBS.  so win/win for everyone.

Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 05:56:37 pm
Maybe you're right and i just shouldn't have said anything. My bad. Apologies, if necessary.

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 05:54:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 04:04:02 pm
If something that I like a LOT is very limited in supply, and I've managed to find a good source for myself, why would I share it with a bunch of people on a message board and cut myself off in the future? What exactly is childish about that?


Quote from: stevewizzle on March 27, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 02:34:11 pm
kind of like the beanie baby craze

Quote from: Yada on March 27, 2012, 02:09:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
All i'll say is you have to look where other people don't.
And sorry to anyone who has missed out...I've already previously promised any extras I may get to a friend...

Quote from: Bagley on March 27, 2012, 01:33:42 pm
Where on earth is the KBS still available?  By the four pack, no less???

Beer secrets. LOLZ.

childish people running around looking for these "rare, hard to find beers" and even more childish people boasting about their "secret locations" that you can't know about. 




That's fine you have your secret place.  But it's yours, and you intend to keep it that way.  So why tell anyone that it exists in the first place? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 07:16:08 pm
The key difference is you told me AFTER you visited the store and bought all that you wanted, whereas when I was posting earlier, I had not yet been to the store. Just sayin.  ;)


Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 27, 2012, 04:52:04 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 04:04:02 pm
If something that I like a LOT is very limited in supply, and I've managed to find a good source for myself, why would I share it with a bunch of people on a message board and cut myself off in the future? What exactly is childish about that?


I told you where I found a second batch of Hopslam after you asked me. Just sayin'...

In other words, check your PMs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 27, 2012, 07:36:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 07:16:08 pm
The key difference is you told me AFTER you visited the store and bought all that you wanted, whereas when I was posting earlier, I had not yet been to the store. Just sayin.  ;)


Fair enough. Coincidentally, I'm drinking a Hopslam while reading this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 27, 2012, 07:36:54 pm
ha ha ha

hee hee hee

ho ho ho

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 08:15:46 pm
Glad you're enjoying a Hopslam!

And i'm eating Lucky Charms as my KBS warms down to appropriate temperature.  :D

Note to self: the bottle stopper doesn't work so well on 12 oz bottles. A KBS bottle on its second day open loses some zing.

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 27, 2012, 07:36:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2012, 07:16:08 pm
The key difference is you told me AFTER you visited the store and bought all that you wanted, whereas when I was posting earlier, I had not yet been to the store. Just sayin.  ;)


Fair enough. Coincidentally, I'm drinking a Hopslam while reading this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 27, 2012, 08:22:36 pm
(http://beer-taster.com/wp-content/uploads/yapb_cache/mikkeller_its_alive.awpbdq6ns9kcw04808wowso04.6ylu316ao144c8c4woosog48w.th.jpeg)


stay away from this.  stay away.  far away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 29, 2012, 12:25:10 am
Baltimore's Best Bar Bracket
http://www.1027jackfm.com/pages/best-bar-bracket/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 29, 2012, 10:48:28 am
How long can you store that KBS?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 29, 2012, 11:18:27 am
In the past month, I've drank a 2011 KBS and a 2012 KBS and really didn't notice too much of a difference. I don't plan on having any of my 2011 stock left this time next year though.

Here are some other opinions:

http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/should-i-cellar-founders-kbs.3406/



Quote from: Yada on March 29, 2012, 10:48:28 am
How long can you store that KBS?


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 29, 2012, 11:24:38 am
baked bread last night from the leftover spent grains from homebrewing.  delicious!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 29, 2012, 01:39:34 pm
Unlike our good friend James Ford, I'm willing to let my fellow boardies know that I just picked up two four packs of KBS right here.

http://wagnersliquor.com/

They had a few cases as of noon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on March 29, 2012, 01:50:21 pm
Thanks Yada...but can you send me a location that's within walking distance of my office in Old Town Alexandria?  I'd really appreciate it!

 ;D

Quote from: Yada on March 29, 2012, 01:39:34 pm
Unlike our good friend James Ford, I'm willing to let my fellow boardies know that I just picked up two four packs of KBS right here.

http://wagnersliquor.com/

They had a few cases as of noon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 29, 2012, 01:56:31 pm
Let me guess. $30/four pack plus DC tax rate?

Quote from: Yada on March 29, 2012, 01:39:34 pm
Unlike our good friend James Ford, I'm willing to let my fellow boardies know that I just picked up two four packs of KBS right here.

http://wagnersliquor.com/

They had a few cases as of noon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 29, 2012, 01:59:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 29, 2012, 01:56:31 pm
Let me guess. $30/four pack plus DC tax rate?

Quote from: Yada on March 29, 2012, 01:39:34 pm
Unlike our good friend James Ford, I'm willing to let my fellow boardies know that I just picked up two four packs of KBS right here.

http://wagnersliquor.com/

They had a few cases as of noon.

Wrong. $24.99.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 29, 2012, 02:18:28 pm
yada vs james

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_46Hbr4qMeTM/S97QaAk37jI/AAAAAAAACO0/zrYRcnMiCVE/s320/cat+fight.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 29, 2012, 02:29:03 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 29, 2012, 11:24:38 am
baked bread last night from the leftover spent grains from homebrewing.  delicious!

a fringe benefit of getting away from all-extract brewing.  the missus is an amazing bread baker but we have yet to incorporate the used grains into anything.  there are also recipes that can use beer yeast, including harvested (post-fermentation) yeast - hit up the googles for "barm bread".

i found a recipe for dog treats using spent grain.  just got myself a puppy last week, so i now have someone to bake them for ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 29, 2012, 02:38:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 29, 2012, 01:39:34 pm
Unlike our good friend James Ford, I'm willing to let my fellow boardies know that I just picked up two four packs of KBS right here.


Well done.  Thanks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 29, 2012, 02:43:29 pm
First a marriage, then a puppy. When should we expect a Sweetcell Jr.?


Quote from: sweetcell on March 29, 2012, 02:29:03 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 29, 2012, 11:24:38 am
baked bread last night from the leftover spent grains from homebrewing.  delicious!

a fringe benefit of getting away from all-extract brewing.  the missus is an amazing bread baker but we have yet to incorporate the used grains into anything.  there are also recipes that can use beer yeast, including harvested (post-fermentation) yeast - hit up the googles for "barm bread".

i found a recipe for dog treats using spent grain.  just got myself a puppy last week, so i now have someone to bake them for ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 29, 2012, 03:22:57 pm
definitely not before we're certain we can keep the puppy alive  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 29, 2012, 03:54:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 29, 2012, 02:29:03 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 29, 2012, 11:24:38 am
baked bread last night from the leftover spent grains from homebrewing.  delicious!

a fringe benefit of getting away from all-extract brewing.  the missus is an amazing bread baker but we have yet to incorporate the used grains into anything.  there are also recipes that can use beer yeast, including harvested (post-fermentation) yeast - hit up the googles for "barm bread".

i found a recipe for dog treats using spent grain.  just got myself a puppy last week, so i now have someone to bake them for ;D

awesome.  thanks for the heads up on barm bread.  looks like a lot of work.

made dog treats too. although no dog to give them to.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 31, 2012, 03:00:39 pm
thanks for the heads up - as of this morning they had wised up and were selling it for $9 a bottle instead of the $24.99 you got it for

Quote from: Yada on March 29, 2012, 01:39:34 pm
Unlike our good friend James Ford, I'm willing to let my fellow boardies know that I just picked up two four packs of KBS right here.

http://wagnersliquor.com/

They had a few cases as of noon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 31, 2012, 05:14:31 pm
Seems like this would be a better option...(copied and pasted from BA forum)

Was just at the Fairfax, VA Total Wine, and they had FBS for 3.99 a four pack. Picked up a case for 23.94, bottled 11/11/11. They also had Bell's Cherry Stout and Bell's Java Stout for 3.99 a four pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 31, 2012, 07:46:44 pm
thats a pretty wild and crazy price for FBS - I don;t really care for Bells cherry stout but those are killer prices
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Stillwater on April 01, 2012, 05:38:52 am
Hey guys... been reading this thread for awhile and have had some great finds.  I have been deployed since December (return in June) and have had my wife pick up some beer that you guys have suggested (and some random ones she grabbed) to stock up for when I get back.  What do you think I need to add to my list? (Just recently getting into this).

Founder's KBS
Founder's Imperial Stout
Breckenridge Small Batch 471
Bell's Hopslam
Firestone Union Jack IPA
Firestone Walker's Reserve
Dogfish Head Faithfull Ale (Pearl Jam 20)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 01, 2012, 04:39:39 pm
Stopped by the Lincolnia location:

FBS was sold out, but other discount deals included: Williamsburg Coffee Stout 3.99/6 pk, Dogfish Chicory Stout $3.99/4 pk, Magic Hat Howl $3.99/6 pk, Weyerbacher Winter Ale, 3.99/6 pk. Saw signs for Bells White Winter and Double Cream Stout and Victory Yakima Glory, all 3.99/6 pk. but they were all sold out.

Quote from: James Ford on March 31, 2012, 05:14:31 pm
Seems like this would be a better option...(copied and pasted from BA forum)

Was just at the Fairfax, VA Total Wine, and they had FBS for 3.99 a four pack. Picked up a case for 23.94, bottled 11/11/11. They also had Bell's Cherry Stout and Bell's Java Stout for 3.99 a four pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 01, 2012, 04:41:36 pm
Those are all good to great. If the words barrel aged barleyine appeal to you, seek out Weyerbacher Insanity.


Quote from: Stillwater on April 01, 2012, 05:38:52 am
Hey guys... been reading this thread for awhile and have had some great finds.  I have been deployed since December (return in June) and have had my wife pick up some beer that you guys have suggested (and some random ones she grabbed) to stock up for when I get back.  What do you think I need to add to my list? (Just recently getting into this).

Founder's KBS
Founder's Imperial Stout
Breckenridge Small Batch 471
Bell's Hopslam
Firestone Union Jack IPA
Firestone Walker's Reserve
Dogfish Head Faithfull Ale (Pearl Jam 20)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2012, 12:40:56 am
Quote from: brennser on March 31, 2012, 03:00:39 pm
thanks for the heads up - as of this morning they had wised up and were selling it for $9 a bottle instead of the $24.99 you got it for

i got a 4-pack from them on friday for $25, glad i made it there before they switched to gouging for singles (name for a new band?!?). 

yup, KBS lives up to the hype.  simply delicious.  i might try aging a bottle because i thought the bourbon was a touch too forward and the bourbon fades a little with cellaring supposedly. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2012, 12:46:07 am
Quote from: Stillwater on April 01, 2012, 05:38:52 am
Hey guys... been reading this thread for awhile and have had some great finds.  I have been deployed since December (return in June) and have had my wife pick up some beer that you guys have suggested (and some random ones she grabbed) to stock up for when I get back.  What do you think I need to add to my list? (Just recently getting into this).

Founder's KBS
Founder's Imperial Stout
Breckenridge Small Batch 471
Bell's Hopslam
Firestone Union Jack IPA
Firestone Walker's Reserve
Dogfish Head Faithfull Ale (Pearl Jam 20)

awesome list, looks like Nugget Nectar should be in there too (if only under the "tasty beer hyped on the 930 board" category).

do you have a source for KBS and Imp Stout?  they are both seasonals.  KBS only comes out in march, is hard to find unless you're right on top of it (and they disappear fast).  if you wife hasn't already scored some you're out of luck until march 2013.   Imp Stout is also only available once a year, in january.  i can help you with an Imperial, i've got a few aging in the basement.  sorry, i'm not sharing my KBS ;D
 
p.s. kudos to the wife for hunting down all that delicious beer for you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Stillwater on April 02, 2012, 07:54:01 am
All of these she already got her hands on.  I live down in Yorktown and the Total Wine in Hampton has had all of these (seemingly without the mad rush of the metro-DC area stores)

...and yes, she has been awesome throughout this deployment
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on April 02, 2012, 09:58:07 am
Bourbon in Woodley Park has KBS and Goose Island BCBS.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 07, 2012, 11:19:29 pm
posted this on homebrewtalk.com:

went on a tour of the Harpoon brewery in Windsor, VT.  if you happen to be in the area i strongly recommend it.  not sure what the boston brewery is like, but the windsor one is way chill.

- the people there truly love their job.  two different tour guides blurted out during their segment of the tour "I HAVE THE BEST JOB IN THE WORLD!".  infectious attitude :)

- they have the most kick-ass plate-chiller... as in, it can handle something like 5000+ gallons of boiling wort in less than 15 mins.

- dry-hopping requires someone to scale the outside of a 3-storey fermenter to manually drop in a large basket of hops.  i want that job.

- they aren't supposed to serve you more than four 2-oz samples of their beer at the end of the tour, but they do.  oh gawd to they ever (hic!)

- saw several 44-pound bags of hops laying around, including falconer's flight... drool.

Harpoon will always hold a special place in my heart because we had a keg of their summer ale at my wedding.  that being said, i also recognize some of their offerings are a tad same-y.  however i can heartily recommend any and all of the following, which i both sampled today and walked away with:

- Rich & Dan's Rye IPA (http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index.cfm?pid=175052): damn solid.  nice strong hoppiness with a mild bite, rye woodiness, 6.9% abv.  recommended.
- Catamount Maple Wheat (http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index.cfm/cdid/172650/pid/28516): good maple taste without being too sweet.  alone it's worth the trip up to the brewery.
- Leviathan Imperial IPA (http://"http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index.cfm?pid=116620#imperialipa"): everything you'd expect in a IIPA.  delicious.
- Leviathan Quad (http://"http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index.cfm?pid=116620#quad") - OMG OMG OMG one of the tastiest american-made quadrupels i've ever had.  amazing balance of sweetness and alcohol heat.  i bought their very last case of the stuff.  those bottles are going straight to my cellar.  looking forward to enjoying these as their complexity develops over the months and years #kidinacandyshop.
- Leviathan Barleywine (http://"http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index.cfm?pid=116620#barleywine") - the only one i didn't sample today, but one can't really go wrong with a barleywine (especially if aged a few month/years, as i intend to do with this 4-pack)
- Leviathan Triticus (http://"http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index.cfm?pid=116620#triticus") - walked out with a growler of this stuff because they barrel-aged the draft version in bourbon barrels (bottled stuff isn't).  it was absolutely amazing.  can't wait to crack into this one next weekend.

Harpoon's regular-gravity beers are decent to very good, but these guys really know how to make strong & flavorful beers.  i'm very lucky that my in-laws live a few miles up the road from windsor ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 10, 2012, 02:45:34 pm
Has anyone had the opportunity to try the "Insidious"- a bourbon barrel aged russian imperial stout from Fegley's Brewworks in Allentown, PA?  I was up there last weekend and picked up a case for $60. It's a bit thinner than the KBS and not as chewy.  But the flavor comes pretty darn close, at a fraction of the cost....  9 % ABV.  As it warms, you can taste the bourbon, vanilla, chocolate and hints of toffee.  A real nice overall roasty quality.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 10, 2012, 02:52:27 pm
Quote from: Bagley on April 10, 2012, 02:45:34 pm
Has anyone had the opportunity to try the "Insidious"- a bourbon barrel aged russian imperial stout from Fegley's Brewworks in Allentown, PA?  I was up there last weekend and picked up a case for $60. It's a bit thinner than the KBS and not as chewy.  But the flavor comes pretty darn close, at a fraction of the cost....  9 % ABV.  As it warms, you can taste the bourbon, vanilla, chocolate and hints of toffee.  A real nice overall roasty quality.

beer is like fashion, now . . . the name means everything to some.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 10, 2012, 04:27:24 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 10, 2012, 02:52:27 pm
beer is like fashion, now . . . the name means everything to some.

very insightful.  thanks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 16, 2012, 11:38:43 am
Finally cracked a KBS... that stuff tastes much better as it approaches near room temps. IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: renton007 on April 17, 2012, 08:28:52 am
I had a rather agressively bitter Brown Ale last night by The Duck-Rabbit (NC brewery). I like Legends and Cap City's brown ales pretty well. This one seemed to be going for the extreme flavor so if you're in to that you may want to give it a try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 17, 2012, 12:30:11 pm
top 50 craft breweries & breweries by volume, in 2011:
http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/media/press-releases/show?title=brewers-association-releases-top-50-breweries-in-2011

while touring the harpoon brewery last weekend, the guide told a story of how the Boston Beer Company has, on several occasions, pressured the brewing association to up the limit on what constitutes a "craft brewery".  essentially, the definition has been changing as a function of (and keeping pace with) BBC's production capacity.  he said there was some frustration among brewers and a movement to kick BBC out of the nest... unfortunately they have weight, so easier said than done.  BBC is the country's fifth largest brewer, just behind Yuengling.

which of course begs the sophomoric question, "what is a craft brewery, anyways?"...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 17, 2012, 01:20:13 pm
How about we kick Harpoon and Boston Brewing off the list because of their mediocrity?  ;)

Sierra Nevada and New Belgium are opening second breweries, both in Asheville (hey sweetcell: job opportunity!). Have to kick them off the list too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: renton007 on April 17, 2012, 02:26:43 pm
If you're looking for some beer/food truck activity Saturday afternoon:

http://dcbeer.com/2012/03/15/livingsocial-announces-craft-beer-and-food-truck-festival-pre-sale-tickets-on-now/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 17, 2012, 02:32:04 pm
Quote from: renton007 on April 17, 2012, 02:26:43 pm
If you're looking for some beer/food truck activity Saturday afternoon:

http://dcbeer.com/2012/03/15/livingsocial-announces-craft-beer-and-food-truck-festival-pre-sale-tickets-on-now/

Once you cut out the stuff that's not worth drinking, you'd be better off staying home.

Great Lakes
Jack?s Cider
Redstone
Evolution
Saranac
Sam Adam
New Belgium
Sierra Nevada
Magic Hat
Harpoon
Flying Dog
Leinenkugel/Blue Moon
Pilsner Urquell/Peroni
Woodchuck
Yeungling
Crown Imports (Negra Modelo, Modelo Especial)
Pabst Blue Ribbon
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: renton007 on April 17, 2012, 02:43:48 pm
I agree that the ones you crossed out are underwhelming except for Saranc but there are some solid gems like Ommegang, Dogfish Head and Lagunitas. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2012, 01:43:14 pm
wondered on down to the local draft emporium last night and had me some:
- Old Rasputin (tap): delicious.  should come with a knife and fork. 
- Victory Helios: they've re-branded their "V-Saison".  y'all gotta try this - might be my new favorite summer beer.  amazing subtle fruit flavors, some spice, nice hoppiness, sweet start and a crisp finish - downright complex.  gawd i hope it becomes a regular offering there 'cause i could see myself having one of these every time i drop in.  also made for a great break between the Rasputin and:
- Breckenridge '72 Imperial Chocolate Cream Stout (tap): another winner.  not too chocolate-y.
- Chimay blue (bottle): just because.  great way to finish the evening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2012, 01:47:53 pm
Hope those were small portions, or you probably aren't feeling so well right now. :)

There's another shipment of Williamsburg Alewerks Bitter Valentine just in at select beer locations. Act fast, these will be gone very quickly. I haven't had any yet, but its received raves on beeradvocate and ratebeer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2012, 01:50:27 pm
Fair Lakes Whole Foods is adding six more draft lines Friday, bringing their total to 16.

At $3.99 per draft ($7.99 for the really pricey stuff ), who needs to go to a real bar?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2012, 02:08:26 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 17, 2012, 01:20:13 pm

How about we kick Harpoon and Boston Brewing off the list because of their mediocrity?  ;)


lol.  my visit to harpoon convinced me that they do make interesting beers: they are mostly in their "Leviathan" series.  harpoon's regular offering are indeed rather dull, with the possible exception of their new rye IPA.  harpoon is proud of the unique yeast strain but it's been criticized for being boring.  so makes sense that their best stuff is either a rye IPA (most of the flavor doesn't come from yeast), strong beers (same thing: malts and hops provide the strong flavors), and their belgians like the quad (they use a different yeast for these).  essentially, harpoon is good when is isn't trying to be harpoon ;D

i make no excuse for Boston Brewing.  however, i haven't tried their Barrel Room Collection nor the Hallertau Imperial Pilsner which looks interesting and gets good reviews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2012, 02:14:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 18, 2012, 01:47:53 pm
Hope those were small portions, or you probably aren't feeling so well right now. :)

the two stouts were 8 oz pours, the helios was maybe 10 (came it its own glass, had a funny egg-like shape to it) and the chimay was an 11.2 oz bottle.  so not outta control and i was there for over 2 hours... but it's a good thing i was within walking distance of the hotel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2012, 02:21:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 14, 2012, 07:15:39 pm
in other news:

Frederick Beer Week 2012
May 11-19
http://frederickbeer.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Frederick-Beer-Week/189388711096750?sk=wall
(not a lot of info yet, more announcements to come.  very much geared towards craft & home brews)

website updated.

the kick-off event to Fredneck beer week is the Brewers Assoc of MD "Maryland Craft Beer Festival" - http://www.craftbeer.com/pages/news-and-events/calendar/show?title=brewers-assoc-of-md-maryland-craft-beer-festival (or http://www.mdcraftbeerfestival.com/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2012, 02:31:27 pm
Admittedly, I've only had two Harpoon beers. IPA=mediocre and barleywine (part of Leviathan series)=mediocre.

Others seem to agree.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/harpoon-ipa/694/

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/harpoon-leviathan-barleywine-style-ale/134254/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2012, 03:13:55 pm
the barleywine does better over at beeradvocate: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/10097/63719 - the Bros give it a 93.  i've got a 4-pack in the cellar that i'll be sitting on for at least a year.  barleywines do a lot better with some aging.

the ipa is indeed mediocre, and that's being generous.  it's also their best-selling beer. *sigh*.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2012, 03:16:28 pm
dubbel post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2012, 03:41:27 pm
I bought two a year ago and cellared one of them.

If you want to give more cred to the two dorky brothers who started the website and gave it a 93 over the 95 other reviewers who have given it an average of 84, go right ahead.

Either way, its 3.75 score is below the current 3.88 average for the English barleywine style.

rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 12%
High: 4.53
Low: 1.73



weighted rank (WR) = (v ÷ (v+m)) × R + (m ÷ (v+m)) × C

where:
R = review average for the beer
v = number of reviews for the beer
m = minimum reviews required to be considered (currently 10)
C = the mean across the list (currently 3.88)
But enough nerd talk. Let's drink a beer!

Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2012, 03:13:55 pm
the barleywine does better over at beeradvocate: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/10097/63719 - the Bros give it a 93.  i've got a 4-pack in the cellar that i'll be sitting on for at least a year.  barleywines do a lot better with some aging.

the ipa is indeed mediocre, and that's being generous.  it's also their best-selling beer. *sigh*.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2012, 06:18:39 pm
this might be more of interest for Baltimorians:

5th annual DuClaw Real Ale Festival
Saturday, Sept 8 (12 - 4 pm)
Bel Air, MD
http://www.realalefest.com/

$55 for all you can drink (real ale) and eat (roast pig and more).  shuttle busses available.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 19, 2012, 11:16:02 am
I'll be high atop Old Rag tomorrow drinking a Dales with my lunch.

No 420 for me, lol.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 19, 2012, 11:28:51 am
old rag  = mountain  = awesome
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2012, 01:39:55 pm
BB&T presents Brew at the Zoo
Saturday, May 26, 2012 - Sunday, May 27, 2012
1 p.m.- 7 p.m.
The Maryland Zoo in Baltimore
http://www.marylandzoo.org/2012/02/brew-at-the-zoo/

Buy Early, Get a FREE Hat! Purchase any general admission or VIP Brew ticket before April 30, 2012, and you'll receive a FREE Brew at the Zoo hat.

Quote from: James Ford on April 19, 2012, 11:16:02 am
I'll be high

No 420 for me, lol.

uh huh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 19, 2012, 02:24:01 pm
Hope they keep the price low, the quality high, and keep the six pack format. 32oz of that stuff is alot to drink.

"On Lagunitas Sucks (paraphrased):

Lagunitas is also ?working hard? to put Lagunitas Sucks in 32 oz. stubby (squat) bottles. ?We?re going to cram it in next to the Schlitz malt Liquor and all the ?Hood beers.?? It will be a year-round release with varied packaging beginning this fall. Gives credit to Les Claypool and Primus who put out bumper stickers that said ?Primus Sucks.? Had wanted to do a beer called ?Lagunitas Sucks? for 10-12 years and finally had the opportunity when the company ran up against capacity and couldn?t produce some of its usual beers this past winter."

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 19, 2012, 09:33:11 pm
Drinking the last of my 2009 Bourbon County beers tonight. I'm not one to store beers but I wish I had more of these lying around.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 19, 2012, 10:49:00 pm
Alabama bans beer brand over dirty name

Dirty Bastard beer by Founders Brewing Co.

Updated: Thursday, 19 Apr 2012, 9:57 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 19 Apr 2012, 8:20 PM EDT
 By Jay Reeves, Associated Press
 


BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - You can buy Fat Bastard wine in Alabama, but you'll have to go elsewhere for Dirty Bastard beer.

The state alcoholic beverage control agency said Thursday it has banned the sale of Dirty Bastard beer in the state because of the profanity on its label.

Beer and wine are commonly sold in grocery and convenience stores and anyone can see the labels, so staff members rejected the brand because parents may not want young people to see rough language on the shelves, said Bob Martin, an attorney with the Alabama Alcoholic Beverage Control Board.

"That's the whole reason for the rule, to keep dirty pictures and dirty words away from children," he said. "Personally, I believe the staff made the right call."

Workers at the agency consulted sources including the Federal Communications Commission and Wikipedia to develop a list of objectionable words that should not appear on product labels, Martin said, and the list includes "bastard."

The state allows the sale of Fat Bastard wine and also approved the sale of another brand of beer called Raging Bitch, Martin said, but both of those decisions were made years ago.

"I have no idea how or why or exactly when that went through," he said.

He said the agency considered revoking those earlier approvals when it denied the application for Dirty Bastard, but officials decided against such action.

The maker of Dirty Bastard, Michigan-based Founders Brewing Co., can appeal the decision to the agency's board, which meets next month. A company spokesman did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

Alabama gained notice a few years ago for banning a wine brand that featured a nude nymph on its label. Its decision on the beer is opposed by Free The Hops, a group that advocates for new beer brands in Alabama.

More than one-third of Alabama's 67 counties still prohibit the sale of alcohol, and all but two counties in north Alabama are dry.
 

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 20, 2012, 08:59:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 19, 2012, 02:24:01 pm
Hope they keep the price low, the quality high, and keep the six pack format. 32oz of that stuff is alot to drink.

"On Lagunitas Sucks (paraphrased):

Lagunitas is also ?working hard? to put Lagunitas Sucks in 32 oz. stubby (squat) bottles. ?We?re going to cram it in next to the Schlitz malt Liquor and all the ?Hood beers.?? It will be a year-round release with varied packaging beginning this fall. Gives credit to Les Claypool and Primus who put out bumper stickers that said ?Primus Sucks.? Had wanted to do a beer called ?Lagunitas Sucks? for 10-12 years and finally had the opportunity when the company ran up against capacity and couldn?t produce some of its usual beers this past winter."



32 oz of sucks is a lot. But excited they are distributing it year round, what a great IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 20, 2012, 09:19:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 19, 2012, 10:49:00 pm
Alabama bans beer brand over dirty name

Dirty Bastard beer by Founders Brewing Co.

Updated: Thursday, 19 Apr 2012, 9:57 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 19 Apr 2012, 8:20 PM EDT
 By Jay Reeves, Associated Press


AP goofed on this one - the story is over a month old.  Alabama is reconsidering the decision.

http://www.freethehops.org/blog/2012/04/founders-bastard-beer-approval-update/
http://beerpulse.com/2012/04/alabama-beverage-commission-reconsidering-founders-bastards-ban/

alabama is in the news for another beer-related reason this week: it is currently illegal to brew your own beer in the state (i believe it is one of three).  there is a bill up for vote in the AL legislature that will allow for small amounts of homebrewed beer for personal use  (i.e. what you can do in the other 47 states).  i believe the bill is up for a vote today.  go alabama - welcome to the 20th century!

EDIT: it's two states, not three - mississippi is the other prohibition-era hold-out.  with any luck it will soon be alone.  utah and oklahoma are two states that just recently change their laws to allow for homebrewing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 20, 2012, 10:04:45 am
i know someone that always is railing against the government and doesn't want the government controlling the lives of people . . . as he lives in a dry county.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: renton007 on April 20, 2012, 10:15:52 am
You know Ron Swanson?

Quote from: walkonby on April 20, 2012, 10:04:45 am
i know someone that always is railing against the government and doesn't want the government controlling the lives of people
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on April 23, 2012, 12:48:43 pm
If you like experimenting with your alcohol or have a case or two of less than optimal brew. The Randall Jr. gives you a good opportunity to mess with it.
http://www.dogfish.com/store/beer-drinkin-goods/other-accessories/randall-jr.htm

Tried it with some Nugget hops to a Red Hook Long Hammer IPA that worked out well.

Then added some ginger to Uncommon Brewers - Siamese Twin that made it slightly more drinkable but still not enjoyable.

Next up is infusing hops into vodka.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 24, 2012, 01:09:38 pm
looking to brew a saison or farmhouse in the next month or so... anyone have good recommendations for beers to try with similar style? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 24, 2012, 02:30:13 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 24, 2012, 01:09:38 pm
looking to brew a saison or farmhouse in the next month or so... anyone have good recommendations for beers to try with similar style? 
Stillwater Stateside or Cellar Door are both great
Hennepin
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 24, 2012, 03:33:08 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 24, 2012, 01:09:38 pm
looking to brew a saison or farmhouse in the next month or so... anyone have good recommendations for beers to try with similar style? 

i've seen Dupont Saison referred to as the stereotypical/prototypical saison.

i'm in love with Victory's Helios (formerly V-Saison).

what goes into brewing a saison?  specific saison yeast and a higher fermentation temp (80*F and up) are two things that make the style.  they're usually hoppier than the average belgian and has a fairly simple grain bill (mostly Pilsner malt, maybe a little Vienna and/or Munich). anything else? 

i wanna brew myself another light/summer'y beer and a saison is definitely a considered option.  my idea is to stock up so i don't have to brew much during the summer - too hot to keep the stove on for an hour.  it's either that, or get a turkey fryer which i'm less inclined to do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 24, 2012, 04:29:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 24, 2012, 03:33:08 pm
what goes into brewing a saison?  specific saison yeast and a higher fermentation temp (80*F and up) are two things that make the style.  they're usually hoppier than the average belgian and has a fairly simple grain bill (mostly Pilsner malt, maybe a little Vienna and/or Munich). anything else? 

i wanna brew myself another light/summer'y beer and a saison is definitely a considered option.  my idea is to stock up so i don't have to brew much during the summer - too hot to keep the stove on for an hour.  it's either that, or get a turkey fryer which i'm less inclined to do.

You pretty much nailed it.  Yeast and high fermentation temp is pretty much the difference maker. Dryness and lower hops (although not always) around 40 IBU's makes it fairly stereotypical.

Dupont I hear is somewhere crazy like 95*F. I really need to drink another one, it's been years. Some people try and use Dupont yeast, but it's a frustrating process I read. Also have read on HBT to take a recipe that you already like, switch the yeast and the fermenting temp and you're gold. 

Thanks for the suggestions.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2012, 09:17:25 am
Had a left over hopslam last night and it was still delicious!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2012, 12:00:17 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2012, 09:17:25 am
Had a left over hopslam last night and it was still delicious!

how was the hoppiness?  still as much bite as when you had the previous one, fresh?

hop flavor is supposed to fade with time... did you notice that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on May 03, 2012, 01:38:35 pm
what do people think of DC Brau?

I think I'm thinking of the IPA. They have it at the club.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on May 03, 2012, 01:40:20 pm
Good question...not sure I've really had any.  I'm on a bit of a self-imposed beer exile for a bit...but I'm still stocking up.  Saw some at my local store and was going to pick it up to try, but if anyone thinks it's not worth it (or that it IS worth it), I'd love to hear.

Quote from: hutch on May 03, 2012, 01:38:35 pm
what do people think of DC Brau?



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 03, 2012, 01:51:05 pm
Quote from: hutch on May 03, 2012, 01:38:35 pm
what do people think of DC Brau?

I think I'm thinking of the IPA. They have it at the club.




The Public (Pale Ale) is my session beer of choice.

I'm not as big a fan of The Corruption (IPA).

The Citizen (Belgian IPA) is great, but most bars don't stock it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 03, 2012, 02:15:21 pm
Very respectable, yet falling below exceptional on ratebeer.com

http://www.ratebeer.com/brewers/dc-brau-brewing-company/12763/

Though since it's only distributed locally, you probably have alot of homers knocking up the score higher than it should be.

I did a side by side tasting of their Armageddon DIPA with Stone Ruination, and it wasn't in the same league with Ruination...but few DIPA's are. Still, was tasty.



Quote from: hutch on May 03, 2012, 01:38:35 pm
what do people think of DC Brau?

I think I'm thinking of the IPA. They have it at the club.



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 03, 2012, 02:35:20 pm
anyone having problems locating the Sam Adams Noble Pils this year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2012, 03:26:42 pm
Corruption gets a similar rating at BA: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/25327/69290

the Bros like it, rating it exceptional, but they only try hundreds of beers a year, at least one is a graduate of American Brewers Guild's Brewing School, they run BA magazine, etc, so what do they know ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2012, 03:35:36 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 03, 2012, 02:35:20 pm
anyone having problems locating the Sam Adams Noble Pils this year?

saw it last night at my local beer shop in R'ville.

FYI noble pils is no longer a seasonal offering - it is now a regular from SA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2012, 03:58:54 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 03, 2012, 12:00:17 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2012, 09:17:25 am
Had a left over hopslam last night and it was still delicious!

how was the hoppiness?  still as much bite as when you had the previous one, fresh?

hop flavor is supposed to fade with time... did you notice that?

It faded slightly, but it was still delicious. I'd say the presence of alcohol was a bit more prevelant rather than the hoppiness fading away. I will say it's undoubtedly my favorite hoppy brew. I do have a case of heady topper coming in a few weeks and I'm quite excited to try it.

Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on May 03, 2012, 01:51:05 pm
Quote from: hutch on May 03, 2012, 01:38:35 pm
what do people think of DC Brau?

I think I'm thinking of the IPA. They have it at the club.




The Public (Pale Ale) is my session beer of choice.

I'm not as big a fan of The Corruption (IPA).

The Citizen (Belgian IPA) is great, but most bars don't stock it.

Bitter American is  a great beer as well with a nice taste and it's not too strong...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2012, 04:22:45 pm
the first time in my life I wish I ilved in Philly.

http://hawthornecafe.com/events.html

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on May 03, 2012, 04:28:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2012, 03:58:54 pm

Bitter American is  a great beer as well with a nice taste and it's not too strong...

I can see why you'd think it's a DC Brau by name and being in a can, but it's actually a 21st Amendment brew from SF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2012, 04:33:16 pm
Quote from: slappy on May 03, 2012, 04:28:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2012, 03:58:54 pm

Bitter American is  a great beer as well with a nice taste and it's not too strong...

I can see why you'd think it's a DC Brau by name and being in a can, but it's actually a 21st Amendment brew from SF.

Whoops!! hahaha, you are correct.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2012, 05:02:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2012, 04:22:45 pm
the first time in my life I wish I ilved in Philly.

http://hawthornecafe.com/events.html

$5 pliny... woa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 03, 2012, 06:15:42 pm
i'm quitting drinking beer for awhile

here are my last purchases


dogfish head    75 minute ipa  (store it for three weeks, then drink)
lagunitas    ipa  and pale ale  (i'll miss this brewery the most)
newcastle   founder's ale  (what happened to these guys?  they suck)
devil's backbone brewing   eight point ipa  (bottle is awesome, beer is actually very good)
stone   sublimely self-righteous   (i like stone, and haven't had a crap beer yet)
firestone   walker's reserve  porter  (damn.  one word.  damn.)


so, i'll miss you beer . . . its been fun.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on May 08, 2012, 02:04:48 pm
Corruption wins an award at World Beer Cup for a good looking can.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/all-we-can-eat/post/bubble-has-not-burst-on-craft-beer-market/2012/05/06/gIQA83Xe6T_blog.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/all-we-can-eat/post/bubble-has-not-burst-on-craft-beer-market/2012/05/06/gIQA83Xe6T_blog.html)

HUGE list of winners and categories - interestingly, fetishsized beers like Hopslam, Pliny, and KBS didn't make the cut.
Here's some regional winners.

Category 6: Herb and Spice Beer, 80 Entries
Bronze: Hardywood Gingerbread Stout, Hardywood Park Craft Brewery, Richmond, VA

Category 7: Chocolate Beer, 34 Entries
Silver: X-1 Chocolate Imperial Rye Porter, DuClaw Brewing Co., Bel Air, MD

Category 8: Coffee Beer, 56 Entries

Bronze: Coffee Stout, Rock Bottom Arlington, Arlington, VA

Category 14: Experimental Beer, 42 Entries

Silver: Noble Rot, Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE

Category 17: American-Belgo-Style Ale, 48 Entries

Silver: Blue Reserve, Blue Mountain Brewery, Afton, VA

Category 24: Aged Beer, 20 Entries
Silver: Vintage Horn Dog, Flying Dog Brewery, Frederick, MD

Category 26: Smoke Beer, 48 Entries

Bronze: Grodzinski, Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant - Newark, Newark, DE

Category 35: Vienna-Style Lager, 41 Entries

Gold: Vienna Lager, Devils Backbone Brewing Co., Roseland, VA

Silver: Heavy Seas Marzen Vienna Lager, Clipper City Brewing Co., Baltimore, MD

Category 39: Traditional German-Style Bock, 30 Entries
Bronze: Troegenator, Tröegs Brewing Co., Hershey, PA

Category 50: German-Style Sour Ale, 11 Entries
Bronze: Vitis Reductus Weisse, Outer Banks Brewing Station, Kill Devil Hills, NC

Category 63: Belgian-Style Pale Strong Ale, 33 Entries
Bronze: Prisoner of Hell, Dock Street Brewery, Philadelphia, PA

Category 70: Extra Special Bitter, 49 Entries
Silver: GAR Pale Ale, Great American Restaurants, Centreville, VA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 09, 2012, 03:48:37 pm
steve - regarding our earlier convo about saisons:

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 24, 2012, 04:29:04 pm
Some people try and use Dupont yeast, but it's a frustrating process I read.

you're aware that both Wyeast 3724 (Belgian Saison) and White Labs WLP565 (Saison Ale) are the Dupont strain, right?  no need to culture from bottles dregs. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 09, 2012, 10:11:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 09, 2012, 03:48:37 pm
steve - regarding our earlier convo about saisons:

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 24, 2012, 04:29:04 pm
Some people try and use Dupont yeast, but it's a frustrating process I read.

you're aware that both Wyeast 3724 (Belgian Saison) and White Labs WLP565 (Saison Ale) are the Dupont strain, right?  no need to culture from bottles dregs. 


i was not, i thought the frustration was from trying to culture from bottles.  do people even do that?

bought a four-pack of dupont; love it, but dropping $4-5 for each bottle is not so hot.  still have not had helios or stillwater, haven't found either.  had the dfh/stone/victory saison du buff, which i thought was amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 15, 2012, 10:32:52 am
this is out, sort of, where i live.  sounds interesting.  beautiful area and luray is a cute, step back in time kinda of town that will grow on you! 


http://www.groupon.com/deals/shenandoah-trail-cruisers?c=title&s=body&division=washington-dc&utm_source=newsletter&utm_content=all-deals_washington-dc&sid=11174671&utm_medium=email&date=20120515&utm_campaign=shenandoah-trail-cruisers&pt=&p=1&addxe=am9obmZlbGRtYW5AbXJpcy5jb20=&user=a8eb20ce18dea612e604f4ae5cbf167eda6eb02bd38daa0879f2468826071716
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 15, 2012, 10:44:14 am
Too bad you're not drinking beer anymore!

Quote from: walkonby on May 15, 2012, 10:32:52 am
this is out, sort of, where i live.  sounds interesting.  beautiful area and luray is a cute, step back in time kinda of town that will grow on you! 


http://www.groupon.com/deals/shenandoah-trail-cruisers?c=title&s=body&division=washington-dc&utm_source=newsletter&utm_content=all-deals_washington-dc&sid=11174671&utm_medium=email&date=20120515&utm_campaign=shenandoah-trail-cruisers&pt=&p=1&addxe=am9obmZlbGRtYW5AbXJpcy5jb20=&user=a8eb20ce18dea612e604f4ae5cbf167eda6eb02bd38daa0879f2468826071716
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 15, 2012, 10:53:06 am
i'm heading up to dc today for the evening.  staying in dupont (shocking) . . . will have to end my non beer ways for the day.  must try this pizza paradiso place i keep hearing about.  super excited.  and hit a museum while i'm up.

gosh, i love dc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 15, 2012, 10:58:49 am
on tues and wed:

half price drafts downstairs at georgetown pizza paradiso from 5-7.
half price drafts at dupont pp from 5-7, but you have to be at the bar.

Quote from: walkonby on May 15, 2012, 10:53:06 am
i'm heading up to dc today for the evening.  staying in dupont (shocking) . . . will have to end my non beer ways for the day.  must try this pizza paradiso place i keep hearing about.  super excited.  and hit a museum while i'm up.

gosh, i love dc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 15, 2012, 11:01:22 am
i'm guessing . . . busy as all get out?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on May 15, 2012, 04:53:03 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 15, 2012, 11:01:22 am
i'm guessing . . . busy as all get out?
It's American Craft Brew Week so the availability of good stuff is pretty spread out through the city. Smith Commons had lots of Bell's on tap last night (2Hearted, Oarsman, Oberon, & Hopslam).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 17, 2012, 08:25:26 pm
so i went to pizza whateveriso . . . and fuck a place that you can not get into, cannot walk around once you are there, where fuckheads stare mean at you, and the beer selection was not that great.  walked out.

went to big hunt.  not as crowded.  seemed more seedy and dirty.  liked that.  no one stared.  liked that.  beer selection was nice, but not orgasmic.  walked out.  went back to my hotel.  had a free beer i brought with me.  then went to that awesome restaurant across from pizza whateveriso, called pesce . . . and drank goose island ipa until i passed out.

i love dc.  gave the rest of my dinner to a homeless woman and her daughter who was not wearing shoes.  she almost started crying.  but sometimes the town makes me sad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 17, 2012, 10:42:42 pm
Great post. Seriously.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2012, 01:38:51 am
brews i tried this week:

Boulevard's "Long Hard Tripel" - amazing.  everything a tripel should be.  a must-try, if you have the opportunity. http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/423/39754

Unibroue's Trois Pistole: long a pers fav, finally got to try it on tap.  complex & delicious.  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22/30

i have a new trinity of breweries: unibroue, founders, and boulevard.  they can do no wrong. 

also got to try avery's "hog heaven" and lagunita's "hop stoopid" - both are over 100 IBUs, and both did very little for me.  while drinking them i kept thinking to myself "what a waste of hops".  yes, i know, others would think "what a waste of a hog heaven" ;D  i still prefer something with more balance, as opposed to the beer equivalent of suicide wings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 18, 2012, 08:18:16 am
Unibroue and Founders are definitely top 10 for me. And I've only had the Quad and the DIPA from Boulevard, but both were quite solid....they should expand to the DC area!

I wasn't that impressed by Hog Heaven either. I mean, I wouldn't turn down a free one, but I also wouldn't go out of my way to have one.

Quote from: sweetcell on May 18, 2012, 01:38:51 am
brews i tried this week:

Boulevard's "Long Hard Tripel" - amazing.  everything a tripel should be.  a must-try, if you have the opportunity. http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/423/39754

Unibroue's Trois Pistole: long a pers fav, finally got to try it on tap.  complex & delicious.  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22/30

i have a new trinity of breweries: unibroue, founders, and boulevard.  they can do no wrong. 

also got to try avery's "hog heaven" and lagunita's "hop stoopid" - both are over 100 IBUs, and both did very little for me.  while drinking them i kept thinking to myself "what a waste of hops".  yes, i know, others would think "what a waste of a hog heaven" ;D  i still prefer something with more balance, as opposed to the beer equivalent of suicide wings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 18, 2012, 10:20:20 am
I was just about to say the same thing.

Quote from: James Ford on May 18, 2012, 08:18:16 am
Unibroue and Founders are definitely top 10 for me. And I've only had the Quad and the DIPA from Boulevard, but both were quite solid....they should expand to the DC area!

I wasn't that impressed by Hog Heaven either. I mean, I wouldn't turn down a free one, but I also wouldn't go out of my way to have one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 18, 2012, 10:41:13 am
Maharajah is the ony Avery beer I'd go out of my way to have.


Quote from: grateful on May 18, 2012, 10:20:20 am
I was just about to say the same thing.

Quote from: James Ford on May 18, 2012, 08:18:16 am
Unibroue and Founders are definitely top 10 for me. And I've only had the Quad and the DIPA from Boulevard, but both were quite solid....they should expand to the DC area!

I wasn't that impressed by Hog Heaven either. I mean, I wouldn't turn down a free one, but I also wouldn't go out of my way to have one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2012, 11:22:22 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 18, 2012, 10:41:13 am
Maharajah is the ony Avery beer I'd go out of my way to have.

i think that's the reason avery has maintained a higher esteem in my mind than they probably deserved - maharaja was the first beer of theirs that i tried, really liked it, so the glow lives on... but it's finally fading.  i've had their Reverand (an average quad, good but nothing special), the Hog Heaven (unimpressive, see above), Beast (18% alcohol, tastes like paint thinner, might be good with 2+ years aging), and Karma ale (my second favorite of theirs... nice stuff, but i won't be ordering it a second time given the options i have).  batting 1.5/4 is good for a ball player but i expect more from a brewery.  it's probably a case of me giving a micro-brewery a little too much leeway.

also, hog heaven has something of a following on a brewing-related board that i follow so i was excited to try it, which only further compounded the disappointment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 18, 2012, 01:19:43 pm
for all you DC-based homebrewers

http://dcbeer.com/2012/05/18/3-stars-brewing-announces-plans-for-onsite-homebrew-store/

this is one of those "stunning in its simplicity" ideas - I bet they get just as much traffic for the homebrew supplies as for the beer itself
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2012, 02:10:13 pm
Quote from: brennser on May 18, 2012, 01:19:43 pm
for all you DC-based homebrewers

http://dcbeer.com/2012/05/18/3-stars-brewing-announces-plans-for-onsite-homebrew-store/

this is one of those "stunning in its simplicity" ideas - I bet they get just as much traffic for the homebrew supplies as for the beer itself

... and plenty of cross-selling too: i'll def be picking up some of their beers when i hit them up for supplies.  this idea is indeed brilliant.  location is a lot closer to me than the other options (falls church, frederick or columbia). 

thanks for posting this brennser!

UPDATE: opening date for the supply store = June 1.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2012, 02:18:18 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 18, 2012, 08:18:16 am
Unibroue and Founders are definitely top 10 for me. And I've only had the Quad and the DIPA from Boulevard, but both were quite solid....they should expand to the DC area!

how timely - dcbeer.com has a bunch of pre-SAVOR write-ups, including one for Boulevard.  among the tidbits: "Available in DC Market: Soon" and "When news broke that Boulevard would be expanding to the area later this year, I immediately went to my happy zone and celebrated in typical fashion." http://dcbeer.com/2012/05/17/savor-brewery-profile-boulevard-brewing-boulevard_beer-2/
;D

also one on avery: http://dcbeer.com/2012/05/17/savor-brewery-profile-avery-brewing-averybrewingco-2/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 20, 2012, 12:37:51 pm
the missus called me a few moments ago informing me she was in a fancy beer store, asked if i wanted anything and started describing the beers she could see.  she is now on her way home with some founders double trouble, chimay blue and stone RIS.  i'm not saying i'm married to the best woman ever... ok fine.  that's exactly what i'm saying.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 20, 2012, 04:50:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 18, 2012, 02:18:18 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 18, 2012, 08:18:16 am
Unibroue and Founders are definitely top 10 for me. And I've only had the Quad and the DIPA from Boulevard, but both were quite solid....they should expand to the DC area!

how timely - dcbeer.com has a bunch of pre-SAVOR write-ups, including one for Boulevard.  among the tidbits: "Available in DC Market: Soon" and "When news broke that Boulevard would be expanding to the area later this year, I immediately went to my happy zone and celebrated in typical fashion." http://dcbeer.com/2012/05/17/savor-brewery-profile-boulevard-brewing-boulevard_beer-2/
;D

also one on avery: http://dcbeer.com/2012/05/17/savor-brewery-profile-avery-brewing-averybrewingco-2/

Ahh thank you for this.  Co-workers from KC rave about Boulevard, I've never tried.  I look forward to Savor, and their exclusive Sierra Nevada colab.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 21, 2012, 12:01:48 am
Quote from: Yada on February 16, 2012, 12:38:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 16, 2012, 09:43:56 am
Confession: I've never had a home brew that I thought was absolutely delicious.

Quote from: sweetcell on February 16, 2012, 12:20:19 pm
yada: i have no illusions that my early attempts at brewing will be anything more than "practice", but if/when i get a decent drink together i'll be sure to invite you over.

I'll take you up on this!

yada, you free next weekend?  'cause i've got a rye IPA that is pretty damn awesome, IMHO. 

it's my 5th brew so far.  the first two were pretty darn good, especially considering my lack of experience, but weren't worthy of having you over.  #3 is a strong belgian (over 9% abv) that is still aging, it probably won't be ready for another 2 or 3 months (if not more).  #4 was an experimental wheat that didn't really work out.  #5, the rye IPA, is my first home-run.

the offer still stands ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 21, 2012, 08:07:16 am
i'd love to just sit, and watch you drink it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on May 21, 2012, 10:52:04 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 21, 2012, 08:07:16 am
i'd love to just sit, and watch you drink it.

Maybe they should videotape the event and upload a link here. Don't think that Sweets has a cat but I know he has a dog. Make sure there's some good cute and funny footage of the little furry baby. Who knows, it could go viral. If that happens, than maybe Sweets could start up his own micro-brew. Maybe he could then name the different brews after various forum members based on the type and their personalities. I'd love to know what a Walkie's Cat Mountain Top Brew would taste like or a Whole Yada Lovin'. We already know that a Mad James Ford Hoppin' Wild would be hoppy and very bitter.  ;) Hutch's Backyard Brew would be au natural. Hey, that's a natural. The possibilities are endless! 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 21, 2012, 10:56:03 am
awesome!

of course . . . i just wanna see sweetcell naked.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 21, 2012, 11:51:17 am
Quote from: Jaguar on May 21, 2012, 10:52:04 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 21, 2012, 08:07:16 am
i'd love to just sit, and watch you drink it.

Maybe they should videotape the event and upload a link here. Don't think that Sweets has a cat but I know he has a dog. Make sure there's some good cute and funny footage of the little furry baby. Who knows, it could go viral. If that happens, than maybe Sweets could start up his own micro-brew. Maybe he could then name the different brews after various forum members based on the type and their personalities. I'd love to know what a Walkie's Cat Mountain Top Brew would taste like or a Whole Yada Lovin'. We already know that a Mad James Ford Hoppin' Wild would be hoppy and very bitter.  ;) Hutch's Backyard Brew would be au natural. Hey, that's a natural. The possibilities are endless! 

LOL, nice one jag ;D  depending how many brews are served, the video could indeed be funny.  yup, no cat, one puppy.  i'm a cat person but the pup is pretty damn photogenic - probably make for more entertaining video.  she's a riot/mobile disaster-maker.  add hoominz on homebrew and...  :o

whole yada love - might have to use that one!  and yours would be "Jag's Foot-Staring Ale" (a take on shoegaze) made with all-natural ingredients - 0% government involvement... or so they claim.

Quote from: walkonby on May 21, 2012, 10:56:03 am
of course . . . i just wanna see sweetcell naked.

i'm afraid i'd disappoint, walkies.  too much beer, not enough gym.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 21, 2012, 12:03:45 pm
didn't you know . . . i love bigger guys!  hot!

oh, be careful about brewing beer . . . you might just be considered a terrorist if a protest comes to town.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/05/chicago-police-arrest-beat-nato-protesters-with-batons-arrest-other-protesters-who-were-in-possession-of-beer-making-equipment.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on May 21, 2012, 12:29:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 21, 2012, 11:51:17 am

... and yours would be "Jag's Foot-Staring Ale" (a take on shoegaze) made with all-natural ingredients - 0% government involvement... or so they claim.

It'll floor ya!  :D

Regarding, Walkie's link: I was going to say that being a home brew will definitely fit the bill. Then I saw that good ol' Walkie posted the link. (Very scary, actually!)

Regarding your other comment, Sweets: you could brew up a selection just for the Bear community (should do well at Blow-Off) called Sweetcell's Honeypot Sweet Bear. That would probably taste pretty good considering that I tend to like sweet beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 21, 2012, 01:50:20 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 21, 2012, 12:03:45 pm
oh, be careful about brewing beer . . . you might just be considered a terrorist if a protest comes to town.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/05/chicago-police-arrest-beat-nato-protesters-with-batons-arrest-other-protesters-who-were-in-possession-of-beer-making-equipment.html

not sure what to think of this story.  on the one hand it seems excessive on the part of police - can't help but suspect that this was done to intimidate protesters.  on the other hand, the story is misleading: they were not arrested because the had beer-making equipment.  they were under suspicion of plotting to use molotov cocktails - i.e., deadly force - against the police, so they were raided and police nabbed anything that looked like bomb-making equipment.  although there was a legitimate use for the bottles (beer-making), seizing them during a molotov-cocktail raid makes sense.

other links to the same story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/05/18/arrested-protester-charges-mistreatment-after-police-raid-apartment/
http://www.suntimes.com/12616221-761/3-protesters-charged-with-conspiracy-to-commit-terrorism-lawyer.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on May 21, 2012, 03:21:16 pm
Boulevard is coming to Maryland, DC, and Virginia in early June. Hallelujah! I love their Tank 7 Farmhouse Ale.

http://www.beerpulse.com/2012/05/boulevard-brewing-co-opening-new-markets-in-june-new-packages-coming-this-summer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 21, 2012, 04:40:24 pm
woohoo, nice to have a date on that.  i'm going to buy a bottle of Tank 7 tonight to celebrate (i'm currently on the road and it's available here).  i'd love to get my mitts on some Saison Brett.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on May 21, 2012, 08:40:05 pm
Random beer observations from the past month or so:

I went up to Philadelphia for the Van Gogh exhibit last month, and I stopped at one of the Iron Hill Brewery restaurants in the area afterward. Good thing I wasn't driving because I loved every beer they had there and I had four of them: Honey Do Wit, a barleywine, the dunkleweizen, and one other I can't recall. All excellent. If you're in the area, I'd recommend stopping in.
http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/media/monthly-releases.htm

I went to Duffy's before a 9:30 Club show a couple weeks ago, and I was very disappointed to discover that they no longer had Ommegang Witte on tap. They didn't have anything else on tap that seemed at all enticing. They also got rid of Shepherd's Pie from their menu. Most disappointing. I doubt I'll be stopping in there again anytime soon.

The Black Cat downstairs has Bell's Amber on tap; I tried it last night. It wasn't bad, but nothing to rave about. I had a similar reaction to Ommegang Rare Vos recently. Not bad, but it's not my favorite Ommegang by any stretch. I keep trying amber ales and being disappointed by them. I think I should throw in the towel and conclude that it's just not a style of beer that I like.

I've become a huge fan of Stillwater Artisanal. I've enjoyed all of theirs that I've tried.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 21, 2012, 10:39:53 pm
When it comes to amber ales, i've got two words: Nugget Nectar. And Hopback Amber.

Bell's Amber is indeed pretty middling. I do like Rare Vos, but indeed it may be Ommegang's weakest beer next to BPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 12:40:29 am
tank 7: a really strong saison.  aroma of grapefruit, but smell is a little on the weak side overall as compared to the taste: spicy, fruity and has a mild yeast bite to it.  really intense.  several reviewers on BA described it as a great summer drink, but prefer my summer drinks to be a little more sessionable & hydrating.  this one is more of a sipper IMO.  a tasty one at that.

had dinner at the local tap-o-rama.  started off with a North Coast Le Merle saison (t'is the season of saisons?).  really nice, super dry with a lingering almost pungent aftertaste on the tongue.  second was a boulevard IPA - ok, even above average but nothing as good as their other offerings that i've had.  i looked it up on their website and they claim it's in neither the west coat nor the east coast style, instead it's a "midwest IPA".  i guess u i now know why i've never heard of midwestern-style IPAs... they've nothing particularly special.  good to know Boulevard isn't infallible. 

also bought a Stone's Cali-Belgo IPA and a Rahr's 2011 Bourbon Barrel Aged Winter Warmer... but those, my friends, are for another time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 09:59:02 am
Please allow me to share the names of a few midwestern breweries that make some pretty decent IPA's.

Bell's
Founders
Three Floyds
Surly
Minneapolis Town Hall

That should get you started.  ;)


Quote from: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 12:40:29 am
  second was a boulevard IPA - ok, even above average but nothing as good as their other offerings that i've had.  i looked it up on their website and they claim it's in neither the west coat nor the east coast style, instead it's a "midwest IPA".  i guess u i now know why i've never heard of midwestern-style IPAs... they've nothing particularly special.  good to know Boulevard isn't infallible. 

also bought a Stone's Cali-Belgo IPA and a Rahr's 2011 Bourbon Barrel Aged Winter Warmer... but those, my friends, are for another time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 10:54:32 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 09:59:02 am
Please allow me to share the names of a few midwestern breweries that make some pretty decent IPA's.

Bell's
Founders
Three Floyds
Surly
Minneapolis Town Hall

That should get you started.  ;)


Quote from: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 12:40:29 am
  second was a boulevard IPA - ok, even above average but nothing as good as their other offerings that i've had.  i looked it up on their website and they claim it's in neither the west coat nor the east coast style, instead it's a "midwest IPA".  i guess u i now know why i've never heard of midwestern-style IPAs... they've nothing particularly special.  good to know Boulevard isn't infallible. 

also bought a Stone's Cali-Belgo IPA and a Rahr's 2011 Bourbon Barrel Aged Winter Warmer... but those, my friends, are for another time.

i agree with you entirely that the midwest makes some great IPAs, but looks like you missed my point: not midwestern IPAs, but midwestern-style ipa.  there is an established west-coast style, sharp and extra-hoppy (by overall IPA standards) and prominently features hops such as cascade & centennial, and the new kids on the block like amarillo, simcoe and citra.  there is an east-coast style of IPA, which is much closer to the english-style, slightly maltier, often darker in color and tends to feature "classic" hops such as fuggles, northern brewer, etc. 

i have never heard of midwestern-style ipa - what makes up that style?  the mash includes cheese curds?  dry-hopped with ruben sandwiches? ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 11:00:02 am
Ok, I see your point, and agree with what you say about west coast vs. east coast. Though there will obviously be exceptions to the rule.

A google search have me this (The Boulevard offering they reviewed (same one you had?) is indeed sort of low on the totem poll.)

http://drinks.seriouseats.com/2010/06/serious-beer-ipa-from-the-midwest-reviews.html



Many of these beers tend to be creamier and mellower than California or Pacific Northwest IPAs, without quite the resinous pop that's more common out west. It's a great style unto itself: The best of these beers are drinkable and balanced, rich and silky. They'll be friendly to food and they won't demolish your palate the way extremely hoppy brews will. (Be warned: there are still a handful of wildly hoppy beers in this roundup.)



Quote from: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 10:54:32 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 09:59:02 am
Please allow me to share the names of a few midwestern breweries that make some pretty decent IPA's.

Bell's
Founders
Three Floyds
Surly
Minneapolis Town Hall

That should get you started.  ;)


Quote from: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 12:40:29 am
  second was a boulevard IPA - ok, even above average but nothing as good as their other offerings that i've had.  i looked it up on their website and they claim it's in neither the west coat nor the east coast style, instead it's a "midwest IPA".  i guess u i now know why i've never heard of midwestern-style IPAs... they've nothing particularly special.  good to know Boulevard isn't infallible. 

also bought a Stone's Cali-Belgo IPA and a Rahr's 2011 Bourbon Barrel Aged Winter Warmer... but those, my friends, are for another time.

i agree with you entirely that the midwest makes some great IPAs, but looks like you missed my point: not midwestern IPAs, but midwestern-style ipa.  there is an established west-coast style, sharp and extra-hoppy (by overall IPA standards) and prominently features hops such as cascade & centennial, and the new kids on the block like amarillo, simcoe and citra.  there is an east-coast style of IPA, which is much closer to the english-style, slightly maltier, often darker in color and tends to feature "classic" hops such as fuggles, northern brewer, etc. 

i have never heard of midwestern-style ipa - what makes up that style?  the mash includes cheese curds?  dry-hopped with ruben sandwiches? ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 11:05:26 am
So we're (wife, four year old daughter, me)headed to Munich, Freiburg, Bruges/Gent, and Amsterdam for 13 days starting Saturday night. Thanks mileage program for the three free-ish tickets.

Chances are we've (read: I've) already researched it, but any recommendations regarding beers to try, places to drink/eat, non-beer places/things to visit, etc?

One thing I'm most looking forward to is hiking to the Andechs Monastary outside Munich and having some Andescher beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 11:11:23 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 11:00:02 am
(The Boulevard offering they reviewed (same one you had?) is indeed sort of low on the totem poll.)

yup, that's the one i had, the double-wide.

nice find on the googles... maybe there is a midwestern style!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 11:18:18 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 11:05:26 am
So we're (wife, four year old daughter, me)headed to Munich, Freiburg, Bruges/Gent, and Amsterdam for 13 days starting Saturday night. Thanks mileage program for the three free-ish tickets.

Chances are we've (read: I've) already researched it, but any recommendations regarding beers to try, places to drink/eat, non-beer places/things to visit, etc?

One thing I'm most looking forward to is hiking to the Andechs Monastary outside Munich and having some Andescher beer.

from gent, you're an hour away from Vleteren - home of the Abbey of Saint Sixtus of Westvleteren, makers of Westvleteren 12.  i realize that's quite a trek to drag your two ladies on just to try a beer.  then again, it's been rated "best beer in the world" several times so it might be worth it.  if you do go, please bring back a bottle for me.  i must have something you'd be interested in trading for!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 11:46:58 am
Considered going for some Westy, but their whole oddball system of distribution seemed kind of iffy. Did see that at least one bar and some bottle shops in Bruges sometime get it. And is it really that much better than St Bernardus 12 or De Struisse Pannepot?

My wife fell in love with the De Dolle trippel. And they are one of the few breweries in Belgium who give tours to those not part of a large group. And the 90-something year old mother of the brewers gives the tours (at least I think she still does, how cute is that?). And weill will be in Bruges on the day that the tours are given. And we will have a car to get there (45 mins) But the tours are at 2pm, so kind of would cut a day in half.

I'm also conflicted about how much beer to bring home. Will US Customs enforce the VA state law of only 128 ounces beer per person (64 in MD). Or will they not care? My wife will probably make me play it conservative and stick within limits. Though when I fly back from SAn Diego later in the summer and sont' have to go through customs, i'll bring back a shitload of hoppy stuff.


Quote from: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 11:18:18 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 11:05:26 am
So we're (wife, four year old daughter, me)headed to Munich, Freiburg, Bruges/Gent, and Amsterdam for 13 days starting Saturday night. Thanks mileage program for the three free-ish tickets.

Chances are we've (read: I've) already researched it, but any recommendations regarding beers to try, places to drink/eat, non-beer places/things to visit, etc?

One thing I'm most looking forward to is hiking to the Andechs Monastary outside Munich and having some Andescher beer.

from gent, you're an hour away from Vleteren - home of the Abbey of Saint Sixtus of Westvleteren, makers of Westvleteren 12.  i realize that's quite a trek to drag your two ladies on just to try a beer.  then again, it's been rated "best beer in the world" several times so it might be worth it.  if you do go, please bring back a bottle for me.  i must have something you'd be interested in trading for!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 01:20:03 pm
if you can find westy elsewhere in belgium, then you are excused from having to go to the abbey.  you're not excused from bringing me a bottle, tho ;D

that De Dolle tour sounds awesome.  does the grandmother speak english?  or do you speak flemish?

customs: you need to think about both state (where you land) and federal rules.  federal personal import limit is 1 liter (yeay metric!) duty-free.  you can bring back more than a liter, but you might be taxed on it.  according to what i've read, customs officials are often lax about taxing beer.  when they do decide to tax you, it's pennies per bottle.  i'd declare everything you bring back.  i'd cry if a customs official impounded my belgians...

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f5/belgium-trip-how-much-beer-can-i-bring-back-us-159351/

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?33930-Bringing-Beer-Through-US-Customs-In-The-United-States-Bringing-Augustiner-To-America


as for state limits, i've never seen or heard of them being enforced.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 01:44:44 pm
Yes, the grandmother speaks English, if she is still alive.
I'm a monolingual dolt. And my wife's Spanish won't help for this trip!

I don't have a problem paying tax on whatever it is i bring back.


The state laws:


Virginia:

http://www.abc.virginia.gov/enforce/shippinginfo.html

Importing Alcoholic Beverages
No more than one gallon of alcoholic beverages (or the metric equivalent) may be brought into Virginia from outside the Commonwealth, excepting shipments to the commission or its licensees, or new residents under special permits.

Anyone who transports more than such quantity of alcoholic beverages per adult in possession of the bonafide owner may be arrested, fined up to $2,500, and sentenced to a year in jail. In addition, the vehicle involved may be impounded and confiscated.

Alcoholic beverages includes wine, beer, or distilled spirits. This restriction applies not only to those alcoholic beverages brought into Virginia from other states or the District of Columbia, but also from defense installations.



http://individuals.marylandtaxes.com/publications/taxtips/personal/tip37.asp


Maryland:

Am I allowed to bring alcoholic beverages into Maryland from another state or the District of Columbia?

You may personally bring into Maryland from another state one quart of legally manufactured alcoholic beverage at any one time, not to exceed two quarts per month. Beyond that level, you cannot import, transport, or possess in Maryland alcoholic beverages upon which Maryland taxes have not been paid. Also, you may not have alcoholic beverages sent to you by out-of-state mail order suppliers or the Internet.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2012, 02:26:31 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 01:44:44 pm
This restriction applies not only to those alcoholic beverages brought into Virginia from other states or the District of Columbia, but also from defense installations.

looks like those rules are for inter-state commerce only.  there is no mention of arriving from another country.  maybe VA doesn't have an international personal limit?  one can hope!
 
Quote from: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 01:44:44 pm
You may personally bring into Maryland from another state one quart of legally manufactured alcoholic beverage at any one time, not to exceed two quarts per month. Beyond that level, you cannot import, transport, or possess in Maryland alcoholic beverages upon which Maryland taxes have not been paid.

so if you're landing at BWI, and you happen to fall upon a customs officer who wants to get all nitty-gritty, you'll have to pay taxes on anything over 64 oz. 
 
i wouldn't sweat it.  bring back as much as you like within reason (i.e. what can pass for personal consumption), declare it all, and be ready to pay 50 cents per bottle in tax.  then let me know when i can drop by to pick up a westie.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 02:29:21 pm
What about beverages brought from outside the United States?

You may bring into Maryland for your personal use no more than one gallon of alcoholic beverage purchased outside the continental limits of the U.S., including Canada and Mexico. One quart of this is tax-free in Maryland, but you must pay tax on the remaining three quarts. In the case of the Virgin Islands, American Samoa or Guam, you may bring back one gallon of alcoholic beverage tax-free.

http://individuals.marylandtaxes.com/publications/taxtips/personal/tip37.asp
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 22, 2012, 02:38:45 pm
Also:


http://traveloasis.com/uscustravin.html


Alcoholic Beverages: One liter (33.8 fl. oz.) of alcoholic beverages may be included in your exemption if:



?
     You are 21 years old. 
?
     It is for your own use or as a gift. 


 ?
     It does not violate the laws of the state in which you arrive. 





        Federal regulations allow you to bring back more than one liter of alcoholic beverage for
        personal use, but, as with extra tobacco, you will have to pay duty and Internal Revenue
        Service tax.

        While federal regulations do not specify a limit on the amount of alcohol you may bring back
        for personal use, unusual quantities are liable to raise suspicions that you are importing the alcohol       for other purposes, such as for resale. Customs officers are authorized by Alcohol Tobacco and    Firearms (ATF) make on-the-spot determinations that an importation is for commercial purposes, and may require you to obtain a permit to import the alcohol before leasing to you. If you intend to bring back a substantial quantity of alcohol for your personal use you should contact the Customs port you will be re-entering the country through, and make prior arrangements for entering the alcohol into the U.S.

Having said that, you should be aware that State laws may limit the amount of alcohol you can bring in without a license. If you arrive in a state that has limitations on the amount of alcohol you may bring in without a license, that state law will be enforced by Customs, even though it may be more restrictive then Federal regulations. We recommend that you check with the state government before you go abroad about their limitations on quantities allowed for personal importation and additional state taxes that might apply.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 24, 2012, 10:46:07 am
I had two amazing, limited one time production beers from Denmark yesterday. Half price at happy hour at Pizza Paradiso in Georgetown.

Started with the

To ØL/Mikkelker Overall IIPA
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24299/63868


and finished with
Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24300/80291

Both blew me away!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 24, 2012, 10:56:20 am
Yeah, I had Evil Twin in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago.  Crazy good  :o


Quote from: James Ford on May 24, 2012, 10:46:07 am
I had two amazing, limited one time production beers from Denmark yesterday. Half price at happy hour at Pizza Paradiso in Georgetown.

Started with the

To ØL/Mikkelker Overall IIPA
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24299/63868


and finished with
Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24300/80291

Both blew me away!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 24, 2012, 11:23:14 am
while i was dc last week or so . . . i checked out some dirty nasty bum on the corner liquor store.  their beer selection blew me away.  i was like, really . . . all this and thirty differnet flavors of mad dog 20/20?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 24, 2012, 12:37:08 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 24, 2012, 11:23:14 am
while i was dc last week or so . . . i checked out some dirty nasty bum on the corner liquor store.  their beer selection blew me away.  i was like, really . . . all this and thirty differnet flavors of mad dog 20/20?

Anyone watch Survivor? This guy reminded me of walky, even though I've never met walky.

(http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2012/03/COLTON-CUMBIE-SURVIVOR-01-1332450540.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 24, 2012, 12:55:25 pm
I'm going to say that Walky is heavier, and older.


Not that there's anything wrong with that.


Quote from: Yada on May 24, 2012, 12:37:08 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 24, 2012, 11:23:14 am
while i was dc last week or so . . . i checked out some dirty nasty bum on the corner liquor store.  their beer selection blew me away.  i was like, really . . . all this and thirty differnet flavors of mad dog 20/20?

Anyone watch Survivor? This guy reminded me of walky, even though I've never met walky.

(http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2012/03/COLTON-CUMBIE-SURVIVOR-01-1332450540.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 24, 2012, 01:14:49 pm
never watched survivor . . . is that guy "bad"?

my stats are -  thirty-eight / six foot four / two o seven lbs.

oh and i forgot . . . super cute.   :P
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 26, 2012, 01:39:19 am
so this is what my weekend is going to look like:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vszsfTReRCw/T8BcI3NO35I/AAAAAAAAIO8/Hty0YoGSIeY/s912/P1040180%2520-%2520Copy.JPG)
 
in case the above pic doesn't come through: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9wd5kJ-ZnEHNqOO4929Tk6CBesnamw2UU71IOs51TRo?feat=directlink (and if the image does show up, sorry for making you scroll to the right... didn't realize the image was that big)

i won't be drinking all of those (i want to cellar the stone IRS), but it's nice to know i have such great options.  the boulevard tripel, rahr's and the cali-belgique were dragged back from texas (thanks for losing my luggage, American Airlines).  the southern tier and the celebrator (!!!) were bought at the rockville pike World Market this evening - what a delightful surprise!  all that crap behind the beers is ingredients that i'll be using to brew a few batches this weekend (a breakfast stout, a belgian blond and a single malt/single hop experimental brew.  the glass on the far left contains my rye IPA - the official sponsor of this weekend's brew-a-thon.

it's gonna be an awesome weekend ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 26, 2012, 07:10:41 am
Hmmm...should i hop the plane to Germany or just hop on over to sweetcell's?

As nice as that collection looks, I'm still getting on the plane. Enjoy those brews though!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 26, 2012, 11:37:57 am
speaking of germany . . . my good friend just got back and brought me this.  hope it is good.


(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484266_3635395976694_98860707_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 26, 2012, 11:39:53 am
yeah, i'd get on that plane too.  i think you'd have two upset ladies if you didn't, plus i hear that they have OK beer in germany ;D

have a great time!  looking forward to hearing about your trip when you return.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 26, 2012, 01:16:03 pm
a nice write-up on local craft breweries and the importance of offering free tastings to stimulate business.  they also mention 3 Stars & their upcoming homebrew supply shop (opens this friday!).

The tasting room is where it?s happening
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/the-tasting-room-is-where-its-happening/2012/05/25/gJQAi2qlpU_story.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 27, 2012, 05:39:49 pm
brewed the first AG recipe today.  Kept it simple, american pale ale ( http://bit.ly/Jvi8vr (http://bit.ly/Jvi8vr)).

bottom line: obsessed. felt like i traded in my old 1995 beater with 200k miles that barely started for a brand new 2012 benz. the equipment upgrades have been slowly coming together over the past few months (wort chiller, big brew pot, and finally a DIY mash tun), and finally got enough time this weekend to brew. 

Photo of the set up: https://p.twimg.com/At6bG3ZCAAAixRY.jpg:large (https://p.twimg.com/At6bG3ZCAAAixRY.jpg:large)

as far as first-time AG brewing goes, very happy with how things went.  spent a lot of time with the calculations, process, and making efficient use of time. Mash tun allowed for just a quick one-time batch sparge.  Nailed the target volumes, efficiency, and specific gravity.  the new 9-gal SS brew pot was great, reached a full-boil for 6.2 gal in about ~20 minutes.  only issue was with the wort chiller... took 40 minutes to bring down to temperature.  maybe should have spent a bit more and got a larger coil chiller.

overall time: 5.5 hrs

will dry-hop w/ 1oz citra, should be ready to drink in 4 weeks.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 27, 2012, 05:46:11 pm
troegs flying mouflan = my favorite beer this year

a deliciously malty and well-hopped barleywine.  had it on draft at churchkey. currently looking to acquire all i can get my hands on.

troegs nugget nectar on-tap at jack rose.  $2 off every day 5-7:30, great deal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 27, 2012, 05:53:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 26, 2012, 01:39:19 am
so this is what my weekend is going to look like:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vszsfTReRCw/T8BcI3NO35I/AAAAAAAAIO8/Hty0YoGSIeY/s912/P1040180%2520-%2520Copy.JPG)
 
in case the above pic doesn't come through: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9wd5kJ-ZnEHNqOO4929Tk6CBesnamw2UU71IOs51TRo?feat=directlink (and if the image does show up, sorry for making you scroll to the right... didn't realize the image was that big)

i won't be drinking all of those (i want to cellar the stone IRS), but it's nice to know i have such great options.  the boulevard tripel, rahr's and the cali-belgique were dragged back from texas (thanks for losing my luggage, American Airlines).  the southern tier and the celebrator (!!!) were bought at the rockville pike World Market this evening - what a delightful surprise!  all that crap behind the beers is ingredients that i'll be using to brew a few batches this weekend (a breakfast stout, a belgian blond and a single malt/single hop experimental brew.  the glass on the far left contains my rye IPA - the official sponsor of this weekend's brew-a-thon.

it's gonna be an awesome weekend ;D

Stone IRS is great. Celebrator is as well, not a better doppelbock out there.  Or if there is, please let me know.

Styrian bobek and some serious adjuncts and grains!  Was the styrian the experimental brew? Never heard of that hop.

Also I like that i see the quaker oats man in that picture.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on May 28, 2012, 03:37:05 pm
is it just me or are beer prices increasing?

they also seem to be outstripping wine price increases..


safeway says the regular price for a cases of corona is now $32.97.


beer institute CPI does not seem to back up what I think i'm seeing.. maybe i'm just wrong but i remember a few years ago a six pack of just about anything seem to be about $2 less.. anyways, here is the Beer Institute CPI

http://www.beerinstitute.org/statistics.asp?bid=198
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 28, 2012, 11:42:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 27, 2012, 05:39:49 pm
brewed the first AG recipe today.  Kept it simple, american pale ale ( http://bit.ly/Jvi8vr (http://bit.ly/Jvi8vr)).

bottom line: obsessed. felt like i traded in my old 1995 beater with 200k miles that barely started for a brand new 2012 benz. the equipment upgrades have been slowly coming together over the past few months (wort chiller, big brew pot, and finally a DIY mash tun), and finally got enough time this weekend to brew. 

Photo of the set up: https://p.twimg.com/At6bG3ZCAAAixRY.jpg:large (https://p.twimg.com/At6bG3ZCAAAixRY.jpg:large)

as far as first-time AG brewing goes, very happy with how things went.  spent a lot of time with the calculations, process, and making efficient use of time. Mash tun allowed for just a quick one-time batch sparge.  Nailed the target volumes, efficiency, and specific gravity.  the new 9-gal SS brew pot was great, reached a full-boil for 6.2 gal in about ~20 minutes.  only issue was with the wort chiller... took 40 minutes to bring down to temperature.  maybe should have spent a bit more and got a larger coil chiller.

overall time: 5.5 hrs

will dry-hop w/ 1oz citra, should be ready to drink in 4 weeks.

woohoo, congrats on the all-grain!  nice time, too - i'm still working on getting it under 6 hours.  and mega-congrats on hitting the numbers.  i always come close but i don't have a defined process for getting there... so maybe i've just been lucky so far.  as long as i'm within 5 points, i'm happy.

question: i see that you add malto-dextrine to your recipes, including pale ales.  do you like your pale ales thicker?  when i think MD, i think of stouts, belgian dubbels, etc.  a pale ale with a heavy mouthfeel seems bizarre to me but i won't knock it until i've tried it.

AG is definitely a one-way door.  i don't see ever going back to extract.  plus, you can make doggie treats with the spent grain ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 29, 2012, 01:05:25 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 27, 2012, 05:53:48 pm
Stone IRS is great. Celebrator is as well, not a better doppelbock out there.  Or if there is, please let me know.

Styrian bobek and some serious adjuncts and grains!  Was the styrian the experimental brew? Never heard of that hop.

Also I like that i see the quaker oats man in that picture.

celebrator is a meal in a glass.  bottles should be served with a bread knife and some butter!  so tasty, can't believe i found some in such a random place.

the bobek was an impulse buy, when i needed a little more to get free shipping on an order.  they're noble'ish, slightly spicy... a low-cost saaz substitute, IMO.  i'm using them in my belgians.  the "experimental" brew is my optic/amarillo SMaSH.  biggest part of the experiment, for me, is to play it so simply.  i'm always throwing the kitchen sink in there, so it was an exercise in discipline to keep it to a single malt and a single hop.  seems so... unnatural.

i got in trouble with the quaker oats man when i brewed my breakfast stout.  namely, i forgot to invite him to the mash party.  so while everything else was mashed and ready to boil, there i was scrounging grains from other recipes (to be replaced with extract) so i could make a mini-mash on the side in a smaller pot for the oats.  way to not stick with the plan... but that's OK.  something always goes wrong on brewday, for me.  i have yet to have a clean, stress-free experience.  today's brewing of a belgian blond was probably the best (i.e. f*ck-up free) brewday i've ever had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 29, 2012, 01:07:14 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 27, 2012, 05:39:49 pm
Photo of the set up: https://p.twimg.com/At6bG3ZCAAAixRY.jpg:large (https://p.twimg.com/At6bG3ZCAAAixRY.jpg:large)

forgot to ask: that's the "before" pic, right?  dunno about you, but by the time i get to the "after" pic it looks like a bomb went off in my kitchen. ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 29, 2012, 10:14:04 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 28, 2012, 11:42:45 pm
woohoo, congrats on the all-grain!  nice time, too - i'm still working on getting it under 6 hours.  and mega-congrats on hitting the numbers.  i always come close but i don't have a defined process for getting there... so maybe i've just been lucky so far.  as long as i'm within 5 points, i'm happy.

thanks! definitely a one-way door.  I look forward to making some seriously ambitious brews. I brew with my roommate, so that helps with the time.  Hopefully it wasn't first-time luck, and we continuously nail the numbers. 

Quote from: sweetcell on May 28, 2012, 11:42:45 pm
question: i see that you add malto-dextrine to your recipes, including pale ales.  do you like your pale ales thicker?  when i think MD, i think of stouts, belgian dubbels, etc.  a pale ale with a heavy mouthfeel seems bizarre to me but i won't knock it until i've tried it.

you know... this may end up being an issue since our target was more of a summer beer.  it went wonderful with the IPA we made, and we enjoyed the additional head retention.  the head retention was the goal and really why we added it, but in retrospect, we could have used something else which wouldn't have bulked up the body. 

Quote from: sweetcell on May 29, 2012, 01:05:25 am
the bobek was an impulse buy, when i needed a little more to get free shipping on an order.  they're noble'ish, slightly spicy... a low-cost saaz substitute, IMO.  i'm using them in my belgians.  the "experimental" brew is my optic/amarillo SMaSH.  biggest part of the experiment, for me, is to play it so simply.  i'm always throwing the kitchen sink in there, so it was an exercise in discipline to keep it to a single malt and a single hop.  seems so... unnatural.

I wonder if Bobek or Saaz would go well in the saison we plan to brew.  I'm still trying to figure out how to get the fermentation temperature hot enough.  Only need it high during that first week... attenuation is best at 75 I'm told.  Open to ideas if you have any.

It does seem so unnatural.  But Mikeller did wonders with all of their experimentals.  Oh my was that SMaSH sorachi ace beer delicious.  I'm sure it will turn out fantastic, what was the target IBU?

Quote from: sweetcell on May 29, 2012, 01:07:14 am
forgot to ask: that's the "before" pic, right?  dunno about you, but by the time i get to the "after" pic it looks like a bomb went off in my kitchen. ;D

Oh yeah, definitely a before pic.  Although sometimes we think this house was constructed with brewing in mind, because the setup is really top notch.  There's a concrete patio and garden hose right outside that back door.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 30, 2012, 04:18:20 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 21, 2012, 03:21:16 pm
Boulevard is coming to Maryland, DC, and Virginia in early June. Hallelujah! I love their Tank 7 Farmhouse Ale.


yeah, the tank 7 is great. 

i've got one these currently hanging out in my fridge:

(http://www.boulevard.com/wp-content/uploads/Brands/Brand_Rye_on_Rye.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2012, 12:29:38 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 29, 2012, 10:14:04 am
thanks! definitely a one-way door.  I look forward to making some seriously ambitious brews. I brew with my roommate, so that helps with the time. 

having some help is awesome.  the missus helps me out on occasion, makes brew day go by a lot faster.  going all grain is like to moving from crayola markers to mixing oil paints.  i'm so loving it.

Quote from: stevewizzle on May 29, 2012, 10:14:04 am
you know... this may end up being an issue since our target was more of a summer beer.  it went wonderful with the IPA we made, and we enjoyed the additional head retention.  the head retention was the goal and really why we added it, but in retrospect, we could have used something else which wouldn't have bulked up the body.

carapils/carafoam is something you might want to consider.  another option (could be used in conjuction with the previous) is to use some wheat, which has more protein than barley so it helps with head retention.

Quote from: stevewizzle on May 29, 2012, 10:14:04 am
I wonder if Bobek or Saaz would go well in the saison we plan to brew.  I'm still trying to figure out how to get the fermentation temperature hot enough.  Only need it high during that first week... attenuation is best at 75 I'm told.  Open to ideas if you have any.

guess it would depend on what kind of saison you're going for.  saaz and the like are a tad spicey so they could reinforce that aspect of your saison, or you could try getting some other flavor in there with your hops.  i'm happy to trade if you want to try bobek, lemme know what ya got :)

getting temps to 75 shouldn't be too hard.  do it cheaply by turning off the AC during the day while you're out, then use  a brew belt or a FermWrap heater when you are around.  i have a brew belt on a timer that kept my carboys warm this past winter, worked quite well but i'd got with a fermwrap if i had to do it again.

Quote from: stevewizzle on May 29, 2012, 10:14:04 am
I'm sure it will turn out fantastic, what was the target IBU?

34 IBUs on a 1.054, so on the hoppy side of balanced without going overboard.  i guess i could have gone stronger, but i already have an IPA on hand.  i wanted a good amount of the malt character to come through since i've never tried optic.  gonna dry-hop it of course. 

here's the output from last weekend's brew-a-thon:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SyXV-q-2xPI/T8nDa-KIn1I/AAAAAAAAISY/cmBsYS-GIBQ/s640/20120529_004206%2520-%2520Copy.jpg)
 
having all 3 carboys full at the same time isn't something i plan on doing too often, so it was worthy of a picture.  because of the chocolate and cocoa nibs in the breakfast stout it created some really cool big bubbles:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VXzL1HjWl1Q/T8nDafHYe1I/AAAAAAAAISQ/7Hf6RHLk2hU/s720/20120529_004534%2520-%2520Copy.jpg)
 
yes, beer is alive!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 06, 2012, 11:24:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 02, 2012, 12:29:38 pm
guess it would depend on what kind of saison you're going for.  saaz and the like are a tad spicey so they could reinforce that aspect of your saison, or you could try getting some other flavor in there with your hops.  i'm happy to trade if you want to try bobek, lemme know what ya got :)

here's what the saison ended up being: http://hopville.com/recipe/1405033/saison-recipes/let-the-pig-out-of-the-farmhouse ..  went with a more forgiving yeast. 

will work with carapils next time, thanks for the heads up.

awesome update!  if you need any help drinking any of those...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 06, 2012, 11:30:39 pm
I find it hard to believe no one has mentioned savor this week.  maybe it's that i'm finally attending (after being unable to go the past two). anyone else attending?

 there has been some cool events throughout the week so far.  sierra nevada tap takeover at CK, boulevard all over the city (tank 7 being highly regarded), good deals on pints, etc.  nice little overview of most events here: http://dcbeer.com/savorweek2012/ 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on June 07, 2012, 09:30:35 am
I'll be at Savor for the first time too. Churchkey was packed for the Deschutes event last night.  I figured it would be crowded but not to that extent. Are there any beers on the Savor list that are a must try?

http://dcbeer.com/2012/03/20/brewers-association-releases-savor-beer-list/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 07, 2012, 11:39:59 am
Some of the can't miss items IMO:
Stone "Soon-to-be-named" IPA
Boulevards whole booth (farmhouse 7!)
Surly's whole booth
Nebraska's whole booth  (Barrel Aged Belgian IPA!)
Denver's Graham Cracker Porter (brewed w/ graham cracker once... didn't turn out so hot)
Coronado's Barrel Aged Barleywine
Cigar City Amber/Red Ale
Troegs Barleywine 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 07, 2012, 02:21:10 pm
i'd be at savor if i could, but mom is in town this weekend. 

Quote from: fatskippy on June 07, 2012, 09:30:35 am
Are there any beers on the Savor list that are a must try?

http://dcbeer.com/2012/03/20/brewers-association-releases-savor-beer-list/

one not mentioned there, but that's i'd like to try, is the  Boulevard & Sierra Nevada collaboration: Terra Incognita. http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/news/boulevard-and-sierra-nevada-collaborate-to-brew-savor-beer/

on that list, the following caught my eye more than others: Rye-on-Rye, Brooklyn Sorachi Ace (not available in MD, only in VA), Stoic, Brainless on Peaches, Hop?solutely, anything by Hardywood Park, Sobrehumano Palena ?ole (wtf is that?), both offerings from Odd Side Ales, both Chatoe Rogue's, Highway 78 Scotch Ale... damn.  there is a lot to choose from.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 07, 2012, 02:42:55 pm
pretty stoked to walk out with a bottle of terra incognita.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on June 07, 2012, 07:20:54 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 07, 2012, 09:30:35 am
I'll be at Savor for the first time too. Churchkey was packed for the Deschutes event last night.  I figured it would be crowded but not to that extent. Are there any beers on the Savor list that are a must try?

http://dcbeer.com/2012/03/20/brewers-association-releases-savor-beer-list/

i'm a fan of Ninkasi and Odell, but they aren't pouring the double IPAs that I love from them....Boulevard, however, looks to be bringing the good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 08, 2012, 02:07:18 am
Quote from: fatskippy on June 07, 2012, 09:30:35 am
Churchkey was packed for the Deschutes event last night. 

speaking of deschutes: this week i tried several bottles of their Inversion IPA.  solid IPA, but i'd say only a tad above average.  this brewery gets a lot of respect/hype so i was looking forward to this, but i wasn't particularly blown away. 

i'd love to try their Reserve Series.  those look particularly tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 08, 2012, 02:08:45 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 06, 2012, 11:24:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 02, 2012, 12:29:38 pm
guess it would depend on what kind of saison you're going for.  saaz and the like are a tad spicey so they could reinforce that aspect of your saison, or you could try getting some other flavor in there with your hops.  i'm happy to trade if you want to try bobek, lemme know what ya got :)

here's what the saison ended up being: http://hopville.com/recipe/1405033/saison-recipes/let-the-pig-out-of-the-farmhouse ..  went with a more forgiving yeast. 

will work with carapils next time, thanks for the heads up.

your saison recipe: interesting that you went with 2-row instead of the more traditional pilsner.  should give just a tad more maltiness.  the wheat should help with head retention (as will a 48+ hours in the fridge before consumption: more cold = more time for CO2 to be absorbed in the liquid from the headspace.  if you really want to impress someone with your homebrew, try refrigerating it for a week).

nice move to the French Saison 3711.  that's the yeast i was considering when planning a saison, but decided to go with a belgian blond instead.  should be a little less demanding in terms of what constitutes "warm" for it.  what temp are you able to maintain?

fyi carapils is more or less the same thing as carafoam - they're pretty much interchangeable, in case you can't find one just use the other.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 06, 2012, 11:24:48 pm
awesome update!  if you need any help drinking any of those...

the amarillo/optic smash should be ready in ~3 weeks (dry-hopping this weekend, bottling next weekend, then 2 weeks to carb).  the blond should be a week or two behind that.  the stout won't be ready for several months, apparently it comes into its own in half a year.  i'm lucky that i have a lot of cellaring space so i'm building up a supply of strong beers that require aging.  i have a dark belgian that's about a month old, now the stout, and in a few weeks i will be making a tripel with the yeast from the blond.  the plan is to not touch these until the xmas holidays, or later.  yeah, that's the plan... however...  ;D

but as for my other brews that don't require aging - c'mon over.  would be a blast to compare beers.  this weekend won't work, but if you're free any other lemme know!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 08, 2012, 12:21:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 08, 2012, 02:08:45 am
your saison recipe: interesting that you went with 2-row instead of the more traditional pilsner.  should give just a tad more maltiness.  the wheat should help with head retention (as will a 48+ hours in the fridge before consumption: more cold = more time for CO2 to be absorbed in the liquid from the headspace.  if you really want to impress someone with your homebrew, try refrigerating it for a week).

nice move to the French Saison 3711.  that's the yeast i was considering when planning a saison, but decided to go with a belgian blond instead.  should be a little less demanding in terms of what constitutes "warm" for it.  what temp are you able to maintain?

2-row was slightly forced upon us. the original recipe called for pils, but w/o a grain mill (any reccomendations?) we weren't about to crush 6#s by hand.  so, 6# of pre-crushed 2-row was substituted. 

75* right now (which is perfect for 3711), but no temp control.  Not enough space cellar, or have a keezer, etc.  Which belgian blond did you use?

Quote from: sweetcell on June 08, 2012, 02:08:45 am
the amarillo/optic smash should be ready in ~3 weeks (dry-hopping this weekend, bottling next weekend, then 2 weeks to carb).  the blond should be a week or two behind that.  the stout won't be ready for several months, apparently it comes into its own in half a year.  i'm lucky that i have a lot of cellaring space so i'm building up a supply of strong beers that require aging.  i have a dark belgian that's about a month old, now the stout, and in a few weeks i will be making a tripel with the yeast from the blond.  the plan is to not touch these until the xmas holidays, or later.  yeah, that's the plan... however...  ;D

but as for my other brews that don't require aging - c'mon over.  would be a blast to compare beers.  this weekend won't work, but if you're free any other lemme know!
well shit, i'll need some brews ready for drinking first (a serious hiatus from brewing occurred between january and april).  that's cool about the ability of cellaring, ever thing about working with a brettanamyces and letting that age?  working with amarillo for the first time myself, i'm excited to hear how that beer turns out for u.  i hear dry-hopping with amarillo is amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 10, 2012, 01:58:10 pm
the beach was . . . nice this time of year.

drank this

dogfish head  tweason'ale  (yummy)

dogfish head  90 min ipa  (this stuff was everywhere.  everybar and restaurant.  i almost drown)

anderson valley  winter solstice  (thought weird for drinking this at the beach, but was the best!!)

bell's  consecrator dopplebock  (first bell's beer i have liked)

sisters of the moon   ipa  (some local area stuff.  not bad)


don't fall flat out staggering intoxicated into a face full of beachy sand . . . people might stare and laugh at you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 10, 2012, 11:17:54 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 08, 2012, 12:21:41 pm
a grain mill (any reccomendations?)

based on what little research i've done, it looks like it's a choice between a cheap corona mill (can be under $30, needs to be tweaked to get a good crush, not easily configurable/variable, can be hit-or-miss), or a more expensive Barley Crusher ($120, high-quality parts, dial to adjust gap, very consistent crush, etc).  so it depends if i want to go big or not and i'm still weighing whether i want to leap into that investment.  it would allow me to get in on bulk grain purchases which really drives costs down.  but i don't brew *that* often, and i kinda like being able to run to the shop and get just what i need, instead of that equipment and grain taking up space in my basement then feeling the need to use whatever i have as opposed to whatever i want... if i do go the self-milling route it wouldn't be until this fall.  after the tripel in a few weeks i likely won't be brewing again until late sept or oct.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 08, 2012, 12:21:41 pm
Which belgian blond did you use?

i went with wyeast 3522, Belgian Ardennes (AKA the Achouffe strain).  a big attraction is the fact that it flocculates nicely for a belgian.  hopefully both the blond and the ensuing tripel will come out clear.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 08, 2012, 12:21:41 pm
well shit, i'll need some brews ready for drinking first (a serious hiatus from brewing occurred between january and april). 

well shit, get on that ;D  no worries.  you just brewed a batch, didn't you?  so you'll be good to go in a few weeks.  if not i've got plenty to keep us entertained.  you can host next time.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 08, 2012, 12:21:41 pm
that's cool about the ability of cellaring, ever thing about working with a brettanamyces and letting that age? 

interesting idea.  i really need to learn more about brett.  i'm not even 100% sure what it tastes like.  i'm also not big on tying up a carboy for that long, so need to look into whether is can be added at bottling time and can do it's thing in a sealed bottle.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 08, 2012, 12:21:41 pm
working with amarillo for the first time myself, i'm excited to hear how that beer turns out for u.  i hear dry-hopping with amarillo is amazing.

i'll be dry-hopping tomorrow and bottling next weekend.  the optic-only brew is the lightest thing i've made to date, the yellow is amazing.  can't wait to see what it looks like once it clears.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 11, 2012, 01:07:24 am
"flocculates"


sounds kind of scary....


i've had a lot of beer today...time to hit the hay.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 11, 2012, 12:07:17 pm
Came across not one but two bottles of Firestone Parabola while visiting my parents this weekend. Naturally bought them both. That's one fantastic brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 11, 2012, 12:29:53 pm
For $15/bomber it better be! (I've had it only on dradt and it is pretty damn fine.)

Back from Germany/Belgium/Holland, I'll tell y'all about it after i catch up on work.


Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 11, 2012, 12:07:17 pm
Came across not one but two bottles of Firestone Parabola while visiting my parents this weekend. Naturally bought them both. That's one fantastic brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on June 11, 2012, 02:39:24 pm
made the pilgrimage to Dogfish Head in Rehoboth on Saturday.  samplers included:

120 min IPA (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-120-minute-ipa/22904/) - great, but almost too much of an alcohol taste
90 min IPA (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-90-minute-imperial-ipa/10569/) - mmmmmmmmmm
Aprihop (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-aprihop/13926/) - better than expected
Black & Blue (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-black-and-blue/63450/) - good, but i'm not a big blueberry beer fan
Red & White (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-red-and-white/63306/) - WOW, great
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on June 11, 2012, 02:45:50 pm
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on June 11, 2012, 02:39:24 pm
made the pilgrimage to Dogfish Head in Rehoboth on Saturday.  samplers included:

120 min IPA (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-120-minute-ipa/22904/) - great, but almost too much of an alcohol taste
90 min IPA (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-90-minute-imperial-ipa/10569/) - mmmmmmmmmm
Aprihop (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-aprihop/13926/) - better than expected
Black & Blue (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-black-and-blue/63450/) - good, but i'm not a big blueberry beer fan
Red & White (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-red-and-white/63306/) - WOW, great

Their World Wide Stout is one of my all time favorites.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 11, 2012, 04:22:13 pm
How was the water temperature at Rehoboth?

Normally early June might find cold water temps, but maybe the record breaking warmth we've had spells warmer water temps earlier this year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 11, 2012, 11:59:24 pm
sooooo... any reports from SAVOR?

Quote from: hutch on June 11, 2012, 01:07:24 am
"flocculates"


sounds kind of scary....

;D

flocculating is what you call a yeast's tendency to drop out of suspension and collect at the bottom of your fermentor.  if you want a clear beer, you should use a highly flocculating yeast.  you can clear a beer with a medium or low flocculating yeast, it's just a bigger PITA to pull off.  if you'r brewing a hazy beer like a hefeweizen, they you don't care about flocculation.

that, and it'll chew you face off in the middle of the night while you sleep.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on June 12, 2012, 09:26:50 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 11, 2012, 04:22:13 pm
How was the water temperature at Rehoboth?

Normally early June might find cold water temps, but maybe the record breaking warmth we've had spells warmer water temps earlier this year?

it was pretty cold, but a nice respite from mid-90s heat on the beach
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 12, 2012, 01:53:19 pm
Craft Breweries Take Off In Region
http://wusa9.com/news/article/208291/158/Craft-Breweries-Take-Off-In-Region
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 12, 2012, 07:20:11 pm
Here's some pics of my brewvenirs, brought back from Germany/Belgium/Holland. All beers pictured were two Euros or less (Duvel less than one Euro) and bought in grocery stores, except for the De Dolle, the De Struise, the Westys and the De Molen....which I picked up in bottle shops.
 
 (http://www.gretchenpowers.com/brewvenirs/Andechs.jpg)
 
(http://www.gretchenpowers.com/brewvenirs/Belg01.jpg)

(http://www.gretchenpowers.com/brewvenirs/Belg02.jpg)

(http://www.gretchenpowers.com/brewvenirs/Belg03.jpg)

(http://www.gretchenpowers.com/brewvenirs/DeMollen01.jpg)
If you're in Munich, you definitely should go to the Hirschgarten, and make a day trip to Kloster Andechs for the beer.
 
 
 
If you're in Belgium, go to the 't Brugs Beertje in Bruges and the Waterhuis aan de Bierkant in Gent.
 
 
 
If you're in Amsterdam, beer is a bit pricier, but In De Wildeman and `t Arendsnest are the bars to go to.
 
 
 
Regret not driving out and taking the De Dolle tour.  Would have been nice to pick up some posters and a tshirt, as they have very cool artwork, and don't sell their merch online.
 
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on June 13, 2012, 03:53:59 am
I tried that Orval trappist ale over the weekend. Whole Foods had it for like $5.50 a single. I did like it a lot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on June 13, 2012, 08:35:42 am
I am heading up to Cooperstown in a few weeks to visit Ommegang.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on June 13, 2012, 08:36:18 am
And I am so jealous of your recent beer tour!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 13, 2012, 08:58:37 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 11, 2012, 11:59:24 pm
sooooo... any reports from SAVOR?

food was scarce towards the end, but enjoyed all of the offerings quite a bit.

favorite beers of the night include:
bells - wild one (best sour, best beer of the night for me)
ballast point - sculpin and indra kunindra (a close second)
upland - gilgamesh
yazoo - rye saison (best saison of the night) and their smoked sour
stone - scotch ale
nebraska - ipa aged in chardonay barrels
allagash - interlude

was impressed with denvers brews.

missed out on stone stbn IPA, heard it was amazing.

boulevard was a huge let down IMO.

terra incognita was dissapointing in draft.  aging it 3-6 months because it needs it.

was amazing to talk with brewers and ask them what they used, the process

for the $120 ticket price, i definitely felt like i got my moneys worth (for comparison... GABF wass $75, I believe).

best beer festival i've been to.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 13, 2012, 01:36:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 12, 2012, 07:20:11 pm
Here's some pics of my brewvenirs, 

how did that import limit thing work for ya? ;D

sweet collection you've brought back there.  i'm surprised you brought back Duvel & Chimay - although you got them for cheaper, i wouldn't have thought that something that can be obtained here was worth the suitcase-space. the Andechser Maximator isn't listed on BA nor RB - nice find!  that stash should have you remembering your vacation for a while. enjoy.

p.s. thank you for bringing back a westie for me!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 13, 2012, 02:07:02 pm
The Andescher is Andescher DoppleBock Dunkel, which is on RB and BA. Unavailable in the STates. The only dopplebock that can give Ayinger a run for its money. The Maximator is from Augustiner. Somewhat limited in the States.

The Duvel was 0.90 and the Chimay slightly more. Compare that to $5+/single here in the States. Couldn't  resist bringing back a few for values sake.

The rare stuff was much pricier. EG Westy 12=7.75, Pannepot=3.95. Compare that to the more common but equally tasty St Bernardus 12 at 1.85 and i got one, one, and four of those.

I don't necessarily subscribe to the rarer is better theory. I guess i could have gotten a few Cantillon's since they are hard to get around here, but one sip of the gueze my wife had at a bar told me i didn't want to do that.

I declared right around the legal limit, though I was slightly over. Wasn't questioned or even taxed.

I'll probably sit of all of this for awhile and drink older stuff.

Quote from: sweetcell on June 13, 2012, 01:36:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 12, 2012, 07:20:11 pm
Here's some pics of my brewvenirs, 

how did that import limit thing work for ya? ;D

sweet collection you've brought back there.  i'm surprised you brought back Duvel & Chimay - although you got them for cheaper, i wouldn't have thought that something that can be obtained here was worth the suitcase-space. the Andechser Maximator isn't listed on BA nor RB - nice find!  that stash should have you remembering your vacation for a while. enjoy.

p.s. thank you for bringing back a westie for me!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 13, 2012, 03:26:56 pm
never seen saint bernardus prior eight . . . how was that compared to abt twelve?  very jealous of your trip.  i won't get on airplanes to experience it for myself.  i'm grounded.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 13, 2012, 04:58:08 pm
(http://www.eatyourpizza.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/st-bernardus-061112.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 13, 2012, 06:14:43 pm
I haven't had an 8 yet either.

Quote from: walkonby on June 13, 2012, 03:26:56 pm
never seen saint bernardus prior eight . . . how was that compared to abt twelve?  very jealous of your trip.  i won't get on airplanes to experience it for myself.  i'm grounded.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 13, 2012, 07:45:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 13, 2012, 02:07:02 pm
I don't necessarily subscribe to the rarer is better theory.

i don't believe that rarer is automatically better, but the opposite isn't true either - KBS is rare and it's pretty damn good.  in this case i was invoking the "get while the gettin' is good" theory.  you can't buy a westie 12 here at all, so grab 'em while you can.  but is one westie worth 8 duvels?  a valid question.

Quote from: James Ford on June 13, 2012, 02:07:02 pm
I declared right around the legal limit, though I was slightly over. Wasn't questioned or even taxed.

glad it all worked out for ya!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 14, 2012, 09:10:39 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 13, 2012, 04:58:08 pm
(http://www.eatyourpizza.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/st-bernardus-061112.jpg)

WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!

was going to consider the long drive up just for this . . . then i realized i will be at phish.  damn!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 19, 2012, 12:27:53 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 13, 2012, 08:58:37 am
boulevard was a huge let down IMO.

well that's a pity.  what did you try? 

out of 5 boulevard offerings that i've tried so far, 4 have been home-runs and one has been merely ok (their wheat).  to ensure that my experience disagrees with yours, i've bought myself a bottle of Tank 7.   looks like i'll have to wait before i can enjoy it, too late for tonight.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 13, 2012, 08:58:37 am
was amazing to talk with brewers and ask them what they used, the process

must have been awesome indeed.  although i can't help but wonder if i'd feel self-conscious, being newb brewer #87,234 that day that walked up to one of those guys to ask them their opinion on my 100% crystal malt recipe.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 13, 2012, 08:58:37 am
for the $120 ticket price, i definitely felt like i got my moneys worth (for comparison... GABF wass $75, I believe).

best beer festival i've been to.

great to hear.  looking forward to next year's event.  i will make a point of telling the family not to visit me that weekend!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 19, 2012, 12:31:32 am
i think that i've just had a hop-bomb that i really enjoyed: Deschutes Hop Henge Experimental IPA (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/63/47434).  very smooth bitterness, hard to believe it's 95 IBU.  big fruit and malt (relatively, for a DIPA).  really thick mouthfeel.  it rides the line between a DIPA and a barleywine but the hops complexity keep it on the IPA side of the fence.  strongly recommended, if you can find it (for those who can't, i can get it weekly here in texas... lemme know what you got to trade ;D).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 19, 2012, 08:52:28 am
I've had it, and it's very good. One of the benefits of having a brother living in Seattle. Not as good as Deschutes' best beer, the Abyss (imperial stout).

Also nice to have in-laws in Indiana (Three Floyds), 90 minutes from Chicago ( with numerous others unavailable in DC).

Now if they'd just get some decent beers in upstate NY, where my mom is. (though it's an hour drive away to places selling Heady Topper)


Quote from: sweetcell on June 19, 2012, 12:31:32 am
i think that i've just had a hop-bomb that i really enjoyed: Deschutes Hop Henge Experimental IPA (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/63/47434).  very smooth bitterness, hard to believe it's 95 IBU.  big fruit and malt (relatively, for a DIPA).  really thick mouthfeel.  it rides the line between a DIPA and a barleywine but the hops complexity keep it on the IPA side of the fence.  strongly recommended, if you can find it (for those who can't, i can get it weekly here in texas... lemme know what you got to trade ;D).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 19, 2012, 10:14:03 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 19, 2012, 08:52:28 am

Now if they'd just get some decent beers in upstate NY, where my mom is. (though it's an hour drive away to places selling Heady Topper)


Founders just started distributing in upstate NY. I should have brought back some Ithaca Flower Power when I was up there last weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 19, 2012, 06:36:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 19, 2012, 12:27:53 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 13, 2012, 08:58:37 am
boulevard was a huge let down IMO.

well that's a pity.  what did you try? 

out of 5 boulevard offerings that i've tried so far, 4 have been home-runs and one has been merely ok (their wheat).  to ensure that my experience disagrees with yours, i've bought myself a bottle of Tank 7.   looks like i'll have to wait before i can enjoy it, too late for tonight.

Tried tank 7 and thought it was bleh (which is kind of funny I think that... since the recent saison homebrew is ridiculously similar in ingredients), thought terra incognita was bleh (although my bottle i look forward to trying again in 4 months, i don't think the brett has had enough time), and don't recall (yeah, i was drunk) trying the rye on rye but if I did it was forgettable. 

has anyone seen the saison-brett around DC?  i'm interested to try it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 19, 2012, 09:37:35 pm
What an amazing half price draft list at Birreria Paradiso tonight. Anybody care to guess whuch five beers my wife and i split? (then hung around Georgetown and sobered up).


Georgetown
 
Brooklyn Sorachi Ace
 St. Bernardus Tripel
 St. Bernardus Christmas
 St. Bernardus Pater 6
 St. Bernardus Prior 8
 St. Bernardus Abt 12
 St. Bernardus Witbier
 Glazen Toren Saison d?Erpe Mere
 Rogue Dad?s little Helper
 Stone Imperial Russian Stout
 Lavery Liopard Oir
 Weihenstephan Hefe-Weissebier
 Unibroue Blonde de Chambly
 Schlafly Summer Lager
 Tupper?s Keller Pils
 DC Brau Ground Wolf
 
Cask Ale:
 Pratt St. Ale House Oliver?s Bishop?s Indulgence
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on June 21, 2012, 01:49:29 pm
I love St. Bernardus. Prior 8 is probably my favorite actually.

I'm heading to Old Stein Inn this weekend. I've been there lots, but I usually stick to their drafts. Was thinking of branching out to some of their bottles this time. Has anyone had the Ettaler Kloster "Monerstary" Doppelbock?

http://www.oldstein-inn.com/menu.php?page=bier&item=draught
http://www.oldstein-inn.com/menu.php?page=bier&item=bottle
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2012, 01:59:30 pm
These are the five we had and how I would grade them:

St. Bernardus Tripel    B-
St. Bernardus Prior 8   B+
St. Bernardus Abt 12   A+
Stone Imperial Russian Stout   A-
Weihenstephan Hefe-Weissebier  A+


$7.99/six pack of that last one at Total Wine makes it THE summer go to beer, bar none.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on June 23, 2012, 11:14:47 pm
I prefer both Franziskanner's and Erdinger's Hefe-Weissbiers to Weihenstephaner's. I think Franziskanner in particular is just about the perfect Hefe-Weissbier. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 24, 2012, 07:51:08 am
The Weihenstephaner's rates a 98=world class on beer advocate.

THe Erdinger's rates a 78=average on beer advocate.

Just sayin'.

 :P
Quote from: Darth Ed on June 23, 2012, 11:14:47 pm
I prefer both Franziskanner's and Erdinger's Hefe-Weissbiers to Weihenstephaner's. I think Franziskanner in particular is just about the perfect Hefe-Weissbier. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on June 24, 2012, 09:46:33 am
I was aware of the beer scores. In Weihenstephaner's case, I think it's dead wrong. (Franziskanner is 90 just to be comprehensive.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 24, 2012, 09:37:11 pm
Lives up to the hype. Delicious.


(http://distilleryimage8.instagram.com/b37cfdf6be6111e1b2fe1231380205bf_7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: smakawhat on June 25, 2012, 04:47:45 pm
Anybody on untappd?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 27, 2012, 01:24:16 pm
Russian River beers at Church Key this weekend... and yes that includes the elusive Pliny the Elder!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 27, 2012, 03:47:40 pm
I'll be in San Diego for work next month, where Pliny the Elder seems to be on tap virtually everywhere.

I'll be coming home with three months worth of hoppy beers in my suitcase.

Quote from: Yada on June 27, 2012, 01:24:16 pm
Russian River beers at Church Key this weekend... and yes that includes the elusive Pliny the Elder!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 27, 2012, 03:57:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 27, 2012, 01:24:16 pm
Russian River beers at Church Key this weekend... and yes that includes the elusive Pliny the Elder!
its good but honestly I'm not sure its really all its cracked up to be
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 27, 2012, 04:33:42 pm
I'll drink a Scotty Karate to this decision.

Dark Horse Brewery Turns Down Nickelback Endorsement Deal
Posted: 06/27/2012 11:59 am Updated: 06/27/2012 12:15 pm

 A blog post on a small Michigan Brewery's website about a nixed endorsement deal seems to have escaped serious notice, until now.

Reddit user Talpostal recently posted a March 2010 entry from Dark Horse Brewery's website, which revealed the operation's opportunity to have its beer featured in a Nickelback music video. Head brewer Aaron Morse was less than enthusiastic about the prospect:

It?s obvious that this would be a great opportunity for us and maybe get some mainstream youth into craft beer rather than the swill. However, none of us at the brewery really care for the band (or frat parties) so our knee jerk reaction is ?no thanks?. But how cool would it be to see our beer in a video? Aaron said, ?Why cant it be some cool band like Slayer?? The guy that called said the lead singer is familiar with our brand. What does that mean? Does the lead singer of Nickleback drink craft beer?
The post revealed that the band had until the following Monday to give the band an answer, and it asked customers and fans for guidance. Dark Horse ultimately declined the offer.

When the story started picking up steam two years after the fact, Michigan Live contacted Morse for his thoughts now on the matter:

...Morse said he stands by his decision, although he could've made a lot of money from the exposure.
"I absolutely hate that band," Morse said today. "It's s--- rock and roll that doesn't deserve to be on the radio."


According to Dark Horse's original blog post, a producer working with Nickelback told Morse he envisioned the video featuring the brewery's delivery truck pulling up to a frat party and crowd shots of kids holding bottles of Dark Horse beer.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 27, 2012, 04:35:00 pm
I've only ever had it fron a bottle (and no idea how old the bottle was), but fresh Ruination on draft was better than Pliny in a bottle.

Can't wait for the Ruination anniversary beer to hit the area...

Quote from: brennser on June 27, 2012, 03:57:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 27, 2012, 01:24:16 pm
Russian River beers at Church Key this weekend... and yes that includes the elusive Pliny the Elder!
its good but honestly I'm not sure its really all its cracked up to be
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 27, 2012, 04:48:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 27, 2012, 03:47:40 pm
I'll be in San Diego for work next month, where Pliny the Elder seems to be on tap virtually everywhere.

I'll be coming home with three months worth of hoppy beers in my suitcase.

Quote from: Yada on June 27, 2012, 01:24:16 pm
Russian River beers at Church Key this weekend... and yes that includes the elusive Pliny the Elder!

Four pack of Heady Topper for a few bombers of Pliney?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 27, 2012, 04:54:00 pm
I'm likely going to Vermont in August.  ;D


Quote from: Yada on June 27, 2012, 04:48:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 27, 2012, 03:47:40 pm
I'll be in San Diego for work next month, where Pliny the Elder seems to be on tap virtually everywhere.

I'll be coming home with three months worth of hoppy beers in my suitcase.

Quote from: Yada on June 27, 2012, 01:24:16 pm
Russian River beers at Church Key this weekend... and yes that includes the elusive Pliny the Elder!

Four pack of Heady Topper for a few bombers of Pliney?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on June 27, 2012, 06:06:12 pm
Quote from: brennser on June 27, 2012, 03:57:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 27, 2012, 01:24:16 pm
Russian River beers at Church Key this weekend... and yes that includes the elusive Pliny the Elder!
its good but honestly I'm not sure its really all its cracked up to be
pliny the elder is probably my favorite beer; wednesday is delivery day to the local stores, so need to stock up for 4th of july.  there are other double IPAs that easier to come by, but i don't know if i'd call them better than pliny.

had pliny the younger at a double IPA festival last february....don't know if it deserved the title of best beer in america, but it was good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 27, 2012, 06:10:47 pm
dogfish head flavors . . . are getting out of hand.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 28, 2012, 06:26:51 pm
i needed beer today!  so i went out and bought some.  i'm getting hammered tonight.


goose island  -  matilda
troegs - hopback
founders  -  cerise
langunitas  -  lucky 13
roanoke railhouse  -  caboose
dogfish head  -  festina peche
duclaw  -  hellraiser
breckenridge  -  471 small batch
sierra nevada  -  hoptimum
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 28, 2012, 06:59:54 pm
I always wonder if your lists are singles or six packs?


Quote from: walkonby on June 28, 2012, 06:26:51 pm
i needed beer today!  so i went out and bought some.  i'm getting hammered tonight.


goose island  -  matilda
troegs - hopback
founders  -  cerise
langunitas  -  lucky 13
roanoke railhouse  -  caboose
dogfish head  -  festina peche
duclaw  -  hellraiser
breckenridge  -  471 small batch
sierra nevada  -  hoptimum
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 28, 2012, 07:08:21 pm
both . . . four packs too.  buying beer is like tetris.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 28, 2012, 08:18:20 pm
I stopped at Russian River during our west coast vacation a few weeks ago. Yes, Pliny the Elder is good but it's overrated in my book. I don't get the hype, frankly. I did have their Row 2/Hill 56 which was an excellent Simcoe hop. And of course, had to get some Blind Pig.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 02, 2012, 08:10:38 am
Went to Ommegang this week!  What a beautiful brewery.  Really great beers and friendly people.  Wish we could go back up for the Wilco show.  They said everyone camps there and they serve breakfast the next day.  Sounds like a great time.  The cafe was really good too, with mussels and great fries.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on July 02, 2012, 10:11:48 am
Anyone ever tried the Hopnotch IPA by Uinta,  a solar and wind powered brewery in Utah?

I think it's a delicious offering... A creamy IPA and at 7.3 ABV, highly drinkable!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 02, 2012, 10:48:22 am
Quote from: Bagley on July 02, 2012, 10:11:48 am
Anyone ever tried the Hopnotch IPA by Uinta,  a solar and wind powered brewery in Utah?

I think it's a delicious offering... A creamy IPA and at 7.3 ABV, highly drinkable!

I bought a sixer of that a while back and still have a few in the fridge... A little too bitter for my liking.

I did find a bottle of Pliney the Elder this weekend at the beer store in DC on Conn and Q.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 02, 2012, 12:01:12 pm
We went there at 2pm since we didn't have power at home. Most beers were gone, we missed paying the ripoff prices. (e.g. $5 for four ounces of Pliny from the bottle). Then headed to DC Brau, where we got a whole growler of Corruption for $10.

Quote from: Yada on June 27, 2012, 01:24:16 pm
Russian River beers at Church Key this weekend... and yes that includes the elusive Pliny the Elder!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2012, 12:02:06 pm
between homebrews this weekend, i had a Mischief by The Bruery (http://www.thebruery.com/beers/YearRound/mischief.html).  it markets itself as a "hoppy belgian ale", and it's downright delicious.  i'm generally not a fan of hoppy + belgian - typicaly hops & belgian yeast tend to step on each other in uncomplimentary ways, but Mischief pulls it.  i'll be buying this one again and am now curious about The Bruery's other offerings.  they seem like a legit craft brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 02, 2012, 12:23:01 pm
Have you had Houblon Chouffe?

Quote from: sweetcell on July 02, 2012, 12:02:06 pm
between homebrews this weekend, i had a Mischief by The Bruery (http://www.thebruery.com/beers/YearRound/mischief.html).  it markets itself as a "hoppy belgian ale", and it's downright delicious.  i'm generally not a fan of hoppy + belgian - typicaly hops & belgian yeast tend to step on each other in uncomplimentary ways, but Mischief pulls it.  i'll be buying this one again and am now curious about The Bruery's other offerings.  they seem like a legit craft brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2012, 01:16:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 02, 2012, 12:23:01 pm
Have you had Houblon Chouffe?

i haven't.  it's been on my need-to-try list for some time now, just haven't stumbled across it yet (emphasis on stumbled ;D).   i'm a fan of La Chouffe and N'Ice Chouffe, so i have high hopes for the Houblon (which is the french word for hops, fyi).

last weekend i bottled a batch of belgian blond that i made using the d'Achouffe yeast strain.  it wasn't carbonated yet but it already tasted amazing.  can't wait to try it in a couple of weeks.  and in a couple of months, if i can get any to last that long.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 06, 2012, 04:17:11 pm
I've been in Athens, Ga all week and drinking lots and lots of Red Brick Brown and damn its so good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 06, 2012, 04:18:11 pm
But who cares because I hate this thread
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 06, 2012, 09:38:12 pm
don't listen to him, that's the beer talking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 17, 2012, 11:07:49 am
homebrew update:

pale ale is tasty. the malodextrine made the body maybe a bit too thick, carapils and water adjustments next time around.

saison is quite a ways a way from being properly bottle-conditioned.  3711 french saison yeast is a beast!!! FG = 1.000. 

brewed an iipa last night.  fuck these ridiculously hot temperatures, took forever to chill the wort.  using our mashtun as a water-bath and throwing in some frozen water bottles.  recipe here: http://hopville.com/recipe/1279731/imperial-ipa-recipes/8-ate-eight-iipa

started to make water chemistry adjustments.  feel so fancy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 17, 2012, 01:15:16 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 17, 2012, 11:07:49 am
saison is quite a ways a way from being properly bottle-conditioned.  3711 french saison yeast is a beast!!! FG = 1.000. 

 :o  :o  :o

translation: that yeast munched the hell outta the beer.  1.000 is a ridiculously low final gravity.  it's going to be dryyyyyyyyy like a proper saison should be.  nice!  once it's conditioned, feel free to include some if/when we get together to compare homebrews.  i've never had a homebrewed saison (except for my grand cru that was accidentally fermented at too high a temp and developed a lot of saison'y esters... so it was more of accidental saison).  it will likely complement my belgian blond nicely, which turned out just a tad sweeter than i wanted it.

i haven't gotten seriously into water correction other than throwing a little gypsum and/or using acidulated malt, depending on the style.  i don't have a scientific approach and am pretty conservative about the adjustments.  i need to get my tap water analyzed so i know what i'm working with.  i've reached out to the city for a detailed water report and got no reply.  bastards.

chilling in these temps is definitely a pain.  i've had success getting those last few degrees by throwing a chunk of sanitized ice into the wort once i've got it down into the 80's (use boiled water, sanitize the container before adding the water, put a lid on it while it freezes, etc).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 17, 2012, 11:17:26 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 17, 2012, 01:15:16 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 17, 2012, 11:07:49 am
saison is quite a ways a way from being properly bottle-conditioned.  3711 french saison yeast is a beast!!! FG = 1.000. 

 :o  :o  :o

translation: that yeast munched the hell outta the beer.  1.000 is a ridiculously low final gravity.  it's going to be dryyyyyyyyy like a proper saison should be.  nice!  once it's conditioned, feel free to include some if/when we get together to compare homebrews.  i've never had a homebrewed saison (except for my grand cru that was accidentally fermented at too high a temp and developed a lot of saison'y esters... so it was more of accidental saison).  it will likely complement my belgian blond nicely, which turned out just a tad sweeter than i wanted it.

i haven't gotten seriously into water correction other than throwing a little gypsum and/or using acidulated malt, depending on the style.  i don't have a scientific approach and am pretty conservative about the adjustments.  i need to get my tap water analyzed so i know what i'm working with.  i've reached out to the city for a detailed water report and got no reply.  bastards.

chilling in these temps is definitely a pain.  i've had success getting those last few degrees by throwing a chunk of sanitized ice into the wort once i've got it down into the 80's (use boiled water, sanitize the container before adding the water, put a lid on it while it freezes, etc).

in these upcoming weeks, i'll let u know when it's done.  august i am likely in montana most of the month, so hopefully it is done sooner than later.  3711 did some serious high score pacman shit with this beer though... pretty excited.  sorachi actually is a little underwhelming right now, but you know how hops go - sometimes takes a little bit to really come out.

should have had ice by hand. lesson learned. big effort for the ice cubes, nice job with that.

you're in MD right?  DC water is nice, they have the report mailed to you, and they also have it available on the web-site.  i'm decent with the water chemistry, i'm excited to see the [edit] "results."

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 18, 2012, 12:20:35 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 02, 2012, 01:16:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 02, 2012, 12:23:01 pm
Have you had Houblon Chouffe?

i haven't.  it's been on my need-to-try list for some time now, just haven't stumbled across it yet (emphasis on stumbled ;D).   

finally stumbled into it tonight - on draft, no less.  it's "belgian week" at my fav tap-o-rama here in dallas.  tonight's special offering was a keg of houblon chouffe.  it's the best belgian IPA i've tasted to date, largely because the yeast successfully shines through - more so than the hops, IMO.  i also had a lot of fun picking out the commonalities between the houblon and my belgian blond which uses the same yeast, so i really savored every sip.  the houblon was good but not amazing.  i'm glad i got a chance to finally try it but i didn't order a second.  instead i had me a snifter of st bernadus abt 12.  currently sipping a duvel, contemplating what life will be like next week when i will no longer have an expense account i can charge all this delicious beer to...  it was a good run *sigh*
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 18, 2012, 12:37:18 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 17, 2012, 11:17:26 pm
in these upcoming weeks, i'll let u know when it's done.  august i am likely in montana most of the month, so hopefully it is done sooner than later.  3711 did some serious high score pacman shit with this beer though... pretty excited.  sorachi actually is a little underwhelming right now, but you know how hops go - sometimes takes a little bit to really come out.

should have had ice by hand. lesson learned. big effort for the ice cubes, nice job with that.

you're in MD right?  DC water is nice, they have the report mailed to you, and they also have it available on the web-site.  i'm decent with the water chemistry, i'm excited to see the

i'm on vacation last week of july & first week and a half of august, so lets plan on having a homebrew summit when you return from MT.  saison was made to be stored, so it'll keep just fine.

your recipe says that you added the sorachi ace at 45 and 30 minutes.  with that long a boil, you won't get any flavor or aroma from the hops.  in essence, you've added expensive bittering hops.  anything longer than 15 minutes and you won't get much flavor or aroma.  15 to 10 minutes for flavor additions, 10-0 minutes for aroma.

when making ice for chilling, i use small plastic yogurt-type containers (or tupperware) to make "ice pucks".  i use containers with a lid so i can cover up the water while it freezes and prevent stuff from landing on its surface (which could potentially introduce infectious contaminants to the wort).

yes, i'm in MD - rockville to be precise.  the city issues an annual water analysis (http://www.rockvillemd.gov/residents/DrinkingWater2012.pdf), but it's fairly useless.  there is a lack of detail.  they don't give any of the info that brewers require.  that's why i contacted them and requested a more detailed report.  and i got nothing.  bastards! 

look like you didn't finish that last sentence ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 29, 2012, 01:20:45 pm
http://bites.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/27/12973140-cheers-6-british-beers-to-quench-your-olympic-thirst?lite

http://sprbrewcrew.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/five-beers-to-enjoy-with-the-2012-olympics/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 30, 2012, 01:02:17 am
I'm here in San Diego.

My friend and I hit Ballast Point, Alpine, Alesmith, Green Flash, and Lost Abbey Saturday and Stone today. i'm about beered out.

Best beers were Ballast Point Sculpin, Alesmith Speedway Stout, and Alpine Duet, Pure Hoppiness, and Nelson.

Tomorrow night we're going to Toronado, which has Alesmith Speedway Stout, De Struisse Pannepot, Ballast Point Sculpin, and Pliny the Elder on draft, among many others. So Ill have to get my taste back.

Speaking of Belgian IPA's, tried Green Flash Le Freak, and it was horrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 30, 2012, 12:29:39 pm
(http://www.bigbeerbuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Special-Golden-Ale.jpg)

Good, good beer. $8.99 a 4-pack but well worth it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 31, 2012, 02:23:12 pm
 
http://ipaday.org
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 01, 2012, 05:01:13 pm
i love the fact that when you live in the country like i do, you sometimes go to country stores to buy a quick six pack of beer on the way home.  they only ever have the classic american shite mighty three (bud / coors / miller) and one other type of 'fancy' beer, "for the stuck ups and queers."  well just today it was heineken, and they were charging almost nine dollars for it.  bastards.  heineken isn't that bad in a pinch. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 02, 2012, 10:17:28 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/304820_10151995745775038_1681898348_n.jpg)

killer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 03, 2012, 02:03:34 am
I've been in San Diego all week, and checked every store for Pliny. All out. They're getting the next shipment tomorrow, hours after I fly home.

I did have it on draft. Both my friend and I though it lost in a side by side match with Sculpin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2012, 08:42:45 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 03, 2012, 02:03:34 am
I've been in San Diego all week, and checked every store for Pliny. All out. They're getting the next shipment tomorrow, hours after I fly home.

I did have it on draft. Both my friend and I though it lost in a side by side match with Sculpin.

I've never had Sculpin, but I've been drinking Heady Topper for the past month and I'm going to have to give a slight edge to Pliny... I wish I had a fresh hopslam to compare it to.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 03, 2012, 12:07:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2012, 08:42:45 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 03, 2012, 02:03:34 am
I've been in San Diego all week, and checked every store for Pliny. All out. They're getting the next shipment tomorrow, hours after I fly home.

I did have it on draft. Both my friend and I though it lost in a side by side match with Sculpin.

I've never had Sculpin, but I've been drinking Heady Topper for the past month and I'm going to have to give a slight edge to Pliny... I wish I had a fresh hopslam to compare it to.

had pliny, sculpin, and heady topper recently. all are so amazing. agree though, heady topper gets the nod.

had a stone ruination 10th anniversary last night on draft.  i don't hesitate in saying that's the best fucking IIPA i've ever had.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 03, 2012, 05:10:57 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 01, 2012, 05:01:13 pm
heineken isn't that bad in a pinch. 

One could do far worse.  It's better out of a can, methinks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 03, 2012, 09:55:15 pm
had that the same day i had sculpin and pliny. Best day of my beer drinking life. :)

Alesmith Speedway Stout wasn't too shabby either.

Actually, the day that i went to the tasting rooms of Ballast Point, Alpine, Alesmith, Green Flash, and Port/Lost Abbey maybe have been tops. Sure made it tough to get up and run eight mils the next morning.


Quote from: stevewizzle on August 03, 2012, 12:07:14 pm

had a stone ruination 10th anniversary last night on draft.  i don't hesitate in saying that's the best fucking IIPA i've ever had.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 06, 2012, 03:46:13 pm
Monday, August 13, Georgetown, 5pm ? close
Founder?s Rare Beer Tasting
Featuring 12 Founders Beers on draft
Beers priced individually, No reservations required.
Centennial
Backwoods Bastard
Curmudgeon?s Better Half
Devil Dancer
Dirty Bastard
Double Trouble
Imperial Stout
2011 Kentucky Breakfast Stout
2012 Kentucky Breakfast Stout
Old Curmudgeon
Porter
Rye Pale Ale

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 06, 2012, 05:56:38 pm
had a few draft Plinys in Philly this weekend

3 Stars Brewing launch party this Thursday at Churchkey and Froday at The Big Hunt - they'll have a saison, a brown ale and an imperial porter on offer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on August 08, 2012, 10:14:30 pm
DC Beer Week 2012 List of Events

http://dcbeer.com/dcbw2012/ (http://dcbeer.com/dcbw2012/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 08, 2012, 10:42:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 06, 2012, 03:46:13 pm
Monday, August 13, Georgetown, 5pm ? close
Founder?s Rare Beer Tasting
Featuring 12 Founders Beers on draft
Beers priced individually, No reservations required.
Centennial
Backwoods Bastard
Curmudgeon?s Better Half
Devil Dancer
Dirty Bastard
Double Trouble
Imperial Stout
2011 Kentucky Breakfast Stout
2012 Kentucky Breakfast Stout
Old Curmudgeon
Porter
Rye Pale Ale

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did anybody plan on going to this.  wow.  what a dream.  like out of a comic book . . . or some tv adaptation of said comic book.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 09, 2012, 08:05:55 am
Thinking about it. Would love it if they had four ounce sampler flights of each beer. Too bad Bolt Cutter isn't out yet.

Quote from: walkonby on August 08, 2012, 10:42:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 06, 2012, 03:46:13 pm
Monday, August 13, Georgetown, 5pm ? close
Founder?s Rare Beer Tasting
Featuring 12 Founders Beers on draft
Beers priced individually, No reservations required.
Centennial
Backwoods Bastard
Curmudgeon?s Better Half
Devil Dancer
Dirty Bastard
Double Trouble
Imperial Stout
2011 Kentucky Breakfast Stout
2012 Kentucky Breakfast Stout
Old Curmudgeon
Porter
Rye Pale Ale

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


did anybody plan on going to this.  wow.  what a dream.  like out of a comic book . . . or some tv adaptation of said comic book.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 13, 2012, 12:04:32 pm
So if my wife and I each do a flight of four, making sure we don't repeat a beer, we still need to skip four beers.

Which four should we skip?

Quote from: James Ford on August 09, 2012, 08:05:55 am
Thinking about it. Would love it if they had four ounce sampler flights of each beer. Too bad Bolt Cutter isn't out yet.

Quote from: walkonby on August 08, 2012, 10:42:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 06, 2012, 03:46:13 pm
Monday, August 13, Georgetown, 5pm ? close
Founder?s Rare Beer Tasting
Featuring 12 Founders Beers on draft
Beers priced individually, No reservations required.
Centennial
Backwoods Bastard
Curmudgeon?s Better Half
Devil Dancer
Dirty Bastard
Double Trouble
Imperial Stout
2011 Kentucky Breakfast Stout
2012 Kentucky Breakfast Stout
Old Curmudgeon
Porter
Rye Pale Ale

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


did anybody plan on going to this.  wow.  what a dream.  like out of a comic book . . . or some tv adaptation of said comic book.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 13, 2012, 12:43:37 pm
one of the kbs . . . you've had them before you bastard, so skip both.

dirty bastard, for backwoods destroys all beforeth it.

rye.  never drink anything with rye in the title.

there is your final four.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 13, 2012, 01:08:01 pm
Thanks

I've actually had them all except Better Half.

Wife's cousin lives in Gran Rapids, about 2.5 hours from her parents. May have to go to the nrewery sometime!

Ratebeer has them in this order. Might go with the top 9, minus a KBS. Might sub Centenial for DT, since a kep of DT in August has probably been sitting around for awhile.

Really like the Red Rye, token lower abv beer, along with Porter. Can't skip that!

1.       KBS 2011/2012
3.       Imperial Stout
4.       Porter
5.       Double Trouble
6.       Backwoods Bastard
7.       Devil Dancer
8.       Better Half
9.       Red Rye
10.   Centennial
11.   Curmudgeon
12.   Dirty Bastard



Quote from: walkonby on August 13, 2012, 12:43:37 pm
one of the kbs . . . you've had them before you bastard, so skip both.

dirty bastard, for backwoods destroys all beforeth it.

rye.  never drink anything with rye in the title.

there is your final four.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 13, 2012, 10:15:29 pm
Just got back from Pizzeria Paradiso - what a great event. Considering I have a bottle of '11 and '12 KBS in my cellar, I went for some brews I never tried before. Ordered Backwoods Bastard, Curmudgeon?s Better Half, and Imperial Stout.

Founders is seriously one of the best breweries in the U.S.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 14, 2012, 09:42:18 pm
founders bells wild one is one of the most impressive sours i've ever had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 14, 2012, 10:27:41 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 14, 2012, 09:42:18 pm
founders wild one is one of the most impressive sours i've ever had. they really are the shit.

gonna hafta find me some of that.  i haven't come across a sour that really does it for me, then again i haven't come across a beer from Founders that i haven't loved.

currently in VT.  i will be returning with a trunk full of heady topper, if i can track some down.  apparently i'm too far south: only one store in the area carries it and they're currently sold out.  dunno if i can motivate to drive 45 mins to find some.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on August 14, 2012, 10:41:55 pm
Founders Sour hmmmmm? Sounds cool does any Total Wine have this?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 14, 2012, 11:52:47 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on August 14, 2012, 10:41:55 pm
Founders Sour hmmmmm? Sounds cool does any Total Wine have this?

Quote from: sweetcell on August 14, 2012, 10:27:41 pm
gonna hafta find me some of that.  i haven't come across a sour that really does it for me, then again i haven't come across a beer from Founders that i haven't loved.

i'm stupid bells makes the wild one. still highly recommended, although it's seasonal and scarce. had it at savor.

heady topper... so delicious. look out for maine lunch IPA too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2012, 09:52:36 am
Oh, c'mon. 45 minutes is nothing. i'll be in upstate NY and Montreal in a couple of weeks. Was planning on getting some Heady in Bennington (75 minute drive from where I'm visiting), but saw that they're currently not getting any.

Now the plan is to drive back to where I'm visiting from Montreal, and go through Burlington (which is getting Heady) to get there.


Quote from: sweetcell on August 14, 2012, 10:27:41 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 14, 2012, 09:42:18 pm
founders wild one is one of the most impressive sours i've ever had. they really are the shit.


currently in VT.  i will be returning with a trunk full of heady topper, if i can track some down.  apparently i'm too far south: only one store in the area carries it and they're currently sold out.  dunno if i can motivate to drive 45 mins to find some.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 15, 2012, 12:20:02 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 14, 2012, 11:52:47 pm
i'm stupid bells makes the wild one.

beer dork FAIL.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 14, 2012, 11:52:47 pm
heady topper... so delicious. look out for maine lunch IPA too.

will do, thanks for the recommendation - beer dork WIN.

Quote from: James Ford on August 15, 2012, 09:52:36 am
Oh, c'mon. 45 minutes is nothing.

it is when you've put in over 24 hours of driving in the past week.  luckily it's all taken care of now: the missus needs to be in burlington on saturday.  i'll either be chauffeuring or giving her a pick-up request.

Quote from: James Ford on August 15, 2012, 09:52:36 am
Now the plan is to drive back to where I'm visiting from Montreal, and go through Burlington (which is getting Heady) to get there.

"so i drove to Burlington to get heady"... wait 'til your wife overhears that one ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2012, 12:28:07 pm
My wife is resigned to my beer dorkiness. "Whatever you want", she said.

Of course, she's more of a hophead than me, so will drink 50% of any Heady we get, and even more of the pleasure.

Besides, going back through Burlington only adds an hour to the car ride, and gives a nice place to stop off for dinner at this place:  http://www.farmhousetg.com/home.html which has Hill Farmstead beers and others.

Thanks from me as well for the Maine Beer Company tip. Will have to look for their beers in Burlington!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2012, 12:44:50 pm
Zack Morris is a Founders fan.

http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/07/saved_by_the_bell_nypd_blue_al.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 16, 2012, 09:18:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 15, 2012, 09:52:36 am
Was planning on getting some Heady in Bennington (75 minute drive from where I'm visiting), but saw that they're currently not getting any.

Now the plan is to drive back to where I'm visiting from Montreal, and go through Burlington (which is getting Heady) to get there.

i recommend that you call ahead and confirm when your intended source of HT gets its delivery, then plan on being there that day or the next morning.  i've been calling around, and apparently the stuff is disappearing off shelves within 24 of delivery (often much faster).  demand is apparently through the roof.  i was told that Alchemist cans on mondays and thursdays.  i might be headed up to montpelier tomorrow (an hour away... *sigh*) to find some, since deliveries are thursday night/friday morning.  ugh.

here in southern VT they've stopped receiving HT because the brewery can't keep up with demand in their immediate area.  the guy here says he hopes to start carrying it again in november, when the brewery will be doubling its capacity.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 16, 2012, 09:22:39 am
LivingSocial Craft Beer and Food Truck Festival
Sept 29
Half Street Fairgrounds
http://www.livingsocial.com/cities/1-washington-d-c/deals/435352-livingsocial-s-beerfest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGto_11EToA
http://www.starrhill.com/events/other_event_item/livingsocials-craft-beer-food-truck-festival

the skinny: unlimited 5 oz pours from 50 breweries for $35
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 16, 2012, 09:27:12 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 16, 2012, 09:22:39 am
LivingSocial Craft Beer and Food Truck Festival
Sept 29
Half Street Fairgrounds
http://www.livingsocial.com/cities/1-washington-d-c/deals/435352-livingsocial-s-beerfest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGto_11EToA
http://www.starrhill.com/events/other_event_item/livingsocials-craft-beer-food-truck-festival

the skinny: unlimited 5 oz pours from 50 breweries for $35

I'm more excited for this one.

http://www.snallygasterdc.com/

The first 25 of the 100+ we'll tap at Snallygaster, including some US debuts...
 
Arcobräu Zwicklbier - Arcobräu Gräfliches Brauhaus ? Germany (Draft)

 Frog?s Hollow Double Pumpkin Ale ? Hoppin? Frog ? Ohio (Draft)

 Freigeist Pimock ? Freigeist Bierkutur ? Germany (Draft)

 Spezial Rauchbier ? Brauerei Spezial ? Germany (Draft)


 Andorfer Weizenbock ? Andorfer Weizenbierbrauerier ? Germany (Draft: USA Debut)

 Kraus Hirschen-Trunk ? Brauerei Kraus ? Germany (Anstich Rubber-Clad Gravity Keg: USA Debut)

 Bayer Theinheim Ungespundetes Landbie - Brauerei Bayer Theinheim ? Germany (Anstich Rubber-Clad Gravity Keg)

 Weißenoher Monk?s Fest - Klausterbrauerei Weißenohe ? Germany (Anstich Rubber-Clad Gravity Keg)

 Mahr?s E.T.A. Hoffmann - Mahrs Bräu ? Germany (Draft)

 Founders Harvest Ale ? Founders Brewing Company ? Michigan (Draft)

 Southern Tier Pumking ? Southern Tier Brewing Company (Draft)

 Avery Ale to the Chief ? Avery Brewing Company ? Colorado (Draft)

 Etienne Dupont Cidre Bouche Brut ? Domaine Familial Dupont ? France (Cask)

 Sünner Kölsch - Sünner ? Germany (Draft)

 DuClaw Mad Bishop ? DuClaw Brewing Company ? Maryland (Draft)

 Lagunitas Daytime IPA ? Lagunitas Brewing Company ? California (Draft)

Schneider Wiesen Edel-Weisse ? Weissbierbrauerie G. Schneider & Sohn ? Germany (Wood-Clad Gravity Keg)

 Hofstettner Hochzeitsbier von 1810 ? Brauerei Hofstetten-Krammer ? Austria (Draft)

 Sixpoint Autumnation ? Sixpoint Brewery ? New York (Draft)

 Peak Organic Fall Summit ? Peak Organic Brewing Company ? Maine (Draft)

 Weihenstephaner Festbier - Bayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan ? Germany (Draft)

 DC Brau & Epic Fermentation Without Representation Imperial Pumpkin Porter ? DC Brau & Epic Brewing Company ? Washington, DC & Utah (Draft)

 Leipziger Gose ? Bayerischer Bahnhof ? Germany (Draft)

 Sierra Nevada Northern Hemisphere Harvest Ale ? Sierra Nevada Brewing Company ? California (Draft)

 Allagash Hugh Malone ? Allagash Brewing Company ? Maine (Draft)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 16, 2012, 09:28:47 am
(http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/white%20house%20beer.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on August 16, 2012, 11:01:34 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 16, 2012, 09:22:39 am
LivingSocial Craft Beer and Food Truck Festival
Sept 29
Half Street Fairgrounds
http://www.livingsocial.com/cities/1-washington-d-c/deals/435352-livingsocial-s-beerfest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGto_11EToA
http://www.starrhill.com/events/other_event_item/livingsocials-craft-beer-food-truck-festival

the skinny: unlimited 5 oz pours from 50 breweries for $35

If this is anything like the one they did at the Kastles Stadium, its not worth it. Way oversold, just stood in line all day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 16, 2012, 04:08:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2012, 12:20:02 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 14, 2012, 11:52:47 pm
heady topper... so delicious. look out for maine lunch IPA too.

will do, thanks for the recommendation - beer dork WIN.

just like the heady topper, Lunch is sold out throughout the region... beer dork FAIL.

instead i picked up Maine Beer Co's "Zoe" ("our happy, hoppy amber") as a consolation.  also got Long Trail's Imperial Pumpkin (from their Brewmasters series).  both have good scores on BA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 16, 2012, 04:09:30 pm
Obama Plays Up Love of Beer to Ferment Coalition of the Swilling
http://magicvalley.com/news/national/obama-plays-up-love-of-beer-to-ferment-coalition-of/article_1ec56eb2-e7c6-11e1-afb0-0019bb2963f4.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 16, 2012, 04:18:45 pm
What day did you try to get the Heady Topper? Per the brewery blog, deliveries are made to the Burlington area on Wednesdays:

We have been running out of Heady Topper here at our retail shop consistently for the past 6 weeks.  This tends to happen on either Sunday or late Saturday afternoon- depending on how busy the weekend traffic is.  If you are planning a visit to the brewery to purchase Heady Topper, please keep in mind that we ?can? each Monday and Thursday.  These are great days to visit as you are guaranteed as much fresh beer as you want.  If visiting on a weekend, Fridays and early Saturday are generally great (we open at 11am).  At this point, the only retailers in the state of Vermont who carry Heady Topper are in our designated distribution territory- Burlington, Montpelier, Mad River Valley and Stowe.  Our delivery truck goes to Burlington/Winooski/Richmond on Wednesdays, and Montpelier/Mad River Valley/Stowe on Fridays.  More information on each retailer can be found on our website.

Unfortunately, we can no longer let retailers outside of our distribution area pick up Heady Topper for resale.  We now have multiple retailers in each town that are interested in carrying Heady Topper, but we are unable to fill every account interested.  By law, you cannot ?pick and choose? your accounts within the same area.  So, we are unable to sell to a select group of retailers until we have enough to get it to everyone.  AND WE ARE WORKING ON IT.





Quote from: sweetcell on August 16, 2012, 04:08:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2012, 12:20:02 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 14, 2012, 11:52:47 pm
heady topper... so delicious. look out for maine lunch IPA too.

will do, thanks for the recommendation - beer dork WIN.

just like the heady topper, Lunch is sold out throughout the region... beer dork FAIL.

instead i picked up Maine Beer Co's "Zoe" ("our happy, hoppy amber") as a consolation.  also got Long Trail's Imperial Pumpkin (from their Brewmasters series).  both have good scores on BA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 17, 2012, 09:50:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 16, 2012, 04:18:45 pm
What day did you try to get the Heady Topper? Per the brewery blog, deliveries are made to the Burlington area on Wednesdays:

the problem for me isn't "when", it's "where".  a local beer store is listed as an official retailer of HT, but they haven't had it for a few weeks and won't be getting it again until november (i.e. when their doubled capacity comes online).

Lunch was also sold out in the 3 places i checked around here.  tough goin'.

however...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 17, 2012, 10:49:49 pm
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Wu-KkZq6CBA/UC8Bq1SLu2I/AAAAAAAAIUo/63fogHovlZg/s512/heady-topper.jpg)

i may well have the best in-laws ever.

gonna hafta think about this, but heady topper might be the best DIPA i've ever tasted.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 20, 2012, 11:51:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 16, 2012, 04:08:31 pm
instead i picked up Maine Beer Co's "Zoe" ("our happy, hoppy amber") as a consolation.  also got Long Trail's Imperial Pumpkin (from their Brewmasters series).  both have good scores on BA.

the Zoe (http://www.mainebeercompany.com/maine-beer/zoe/) was was a delightful surprise.  a nice hoppy amber.  recommended. 

the LT imperial pumpkin (http://www.longtrail.com/family-of-ales/ales/imperial-pumpkin.aspx) was another winner.  might be the best pumpkin beer i've ever tasted.

heady topper is indeed the best DIPA/IIPA i've ever had.  only 3 cans left...

since i couldn't find any Lunch while in VT, i headed over to the Harpoon brewery which is just a few miles away from the in-laws:
- 100 Barrel Series #42 Ginger Wheat (http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index.cfm/cdid/173072/pid/28516) is very gingery, and a hit with the missus.  other than a strong ginger flavor i don't find it has much going for it.
- 100 Barrel Series #43 White IPA (http://) is a highly hopped imperial wheat, and it's frikken delicious.  wish i had picked up more of these.
- Leviathan Great Scott Ale: (http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index.cfm/page/Harpoon-Leviathan-Series/pid/116620#greatscott) this one is a "miss" for me.  i'm only so-so on wee heavies and this isn't a particularly good example of the style.  i'll probably end up saving the 3 bottles i have left for guests that like heavy malt/low hop beers.  maybe it'll age nicely... i'm likely to forgot about this one.
- Leviathan Red Squared: (http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index.cfm/page/Harpoon-Leviathan-Series/pid/116620#redsquared) an imperial red ale that has a great citrus kick.  not sure if i like this one as much or more than that Zoe - but it's a definite winner.
- Also had a glass of their Imperial IPA on draft, which is quite respectable.  no match for the Heady Topper but it stands its own ground. 
- the UFO pumpkin should be avoided.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 21, 2012, 08:59:42 am
I love how sweetcell is becoming such a hophead!  ;D

Thanks for the info, hope to pick up some HT and Zoe on my trip next week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 21, 2012, 10:01:35 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 17, 2012, 10:49:49 pm
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Wu-KkZq6CBA/UC8Bq1SLu2I/AAAAAAAAIUo/63fogHovlZg/s512/heady-topper.jpg)

i may well have the best in-laws ever.

gonna hafta think about this, but heady topper might be the best DIPA i've ever tasted.

It is completely delicious but I think Pliny beats it out by a hop.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 21, 2012, 05:20:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 21, 2012, 08:59:42 am
I love how sweetcell is becoming such a hophead!  ;D

no!  it's not true!  i mean, not really.  at least not a whole lot.

ok fine, i like hoppy beers.  i'm still very picky about my hop-bombs, tho.  to date i've disliked more 100+ IBU beers than i've liked, which is why i'm so vocal about the ones i do like.

there, ya happy now?!? ;D

Quote from: James Ford on August 21, 2012, 08:59:42 am
Thanks for the info, hope to pick up some HT and Zoe on my trip next week.

Maine's "Peeper" also looks decent (highly hopped APA), but Zoe looks better/more interesting.  certainly tasted great!

if you can't make it to the Alchemist brewery, try to hit the retail shops late on delivery day or early the next.  call ahead.  some places might even be willing to put aside a few cans for you.

Quote from: Yada on August 21, 2012, 10:01:35 am
It is completely delicious but I think Pliny beats it out by a hop.

i haven't had the pleasure of trying a Pliny yet, so i'll reserve judgement. 

if anyone has a fresh Pliny to trade, I still have 2 cans of Heady left, fresh from last thursday's batch.  likely to be only 1 can by the time i finish mowing the lawn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 21, 2012, 05:23:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 21, 2012, 05:20:08 pm
i haven't had the pleasure of trying a Pliny yet, so i'll reserve judgement. 

if anyone has a fresh Pliny to trade, I still have 2 cans of Heady left, fresh from last thursday's batch.  likely to be only 1 can by the time i finish mowing the lawn.

This place has Pliny regularly, but way over priced... still delicious though!

http://www.yelp.com/biz/connecticut-avenue-wine-and-liquors-washington
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 21, 2012, 09:31:10 pm
Just found out I'm headed to NoCal tomorrow on a surprise birthday trip.....Russian River, Lagunitas, Bear Republic and more, here I come!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 27, 2012, 10:52:30 pm
a few beer-related events:

NASA Crab Feast 2012 (brought to you by the Free State Homebrew Club Guild)
http://mdhomebrewers.com/crab/
Goddard Space Flight Center Recreation Center
Saturday, September 15, 2012 Noon-6 pm
$35 for all-you can eat crabs and more, cask ale & other craft beers, etc

Baltimore Beer Week
October 19-28
http://www.baltimorebeerweek.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 29, 2012, 03:51:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 21, 2012, 05:23:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 21, 2012, 05:20:08 pm
i haven't had the pleasure of trying a Pliny yet, so i'll reserve judgement. 

if anyone has a fresh Pliny to trade, I still have 2 cans of Heady left, fresh from last thursday's batch.  likely to be only 1 can by the time i finish mowing the lawn.

This place has Pliny regularly, but way over priced... still delicious though!

http://www.yelp.com/biz/connecticut-avenue-wine-and-liquors-washington

checked it out yesterday - $19.99 a bottle :o :o :o

no thanks.  i'll wait.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 29, 2012, 04:22:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 29, 2012, 03:51:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 21, 2012, 05:23:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 21, 2012, 05:20:08 pm
i haven't had the pleasure of trying a Pliny yet, so i'll reserve judgement. 

if anyone has a fresh Pliny to trade, I still have 2 cans of Heady left, fresh from last thursday's batch.  likely to be only 1 can by the time i finish mowing the lawn.

This place has Pliny regularly, but way over priced... still delicious though!

http://www.yelp.com/biz/connecticut-avenue-wine-and-liquors-washington

checked it out yesterday - $19.99 a bottle :o :o :o

no thanks.  i'll wait.

damn... It was $14.99 the last I went there. Interesting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on August 29, 2012, 04:28:13 pm
So much for champagne taste on a beer budget!  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 31, 2012, 10:27:43 am
Stopped at the Alchemist Brewery (0.3 miles from Ben and Jerry's factory!) and Prohibition Pig in Waterbury, VT yesterday. Game, set, and match to Heady Topper. Holy crap. The US Open is now closed. Also had some fine Vermont beers from Hill Farmstead, Lawson's, and Zero Gravity. And picked up a bottle of Maine Beer Co. Zoe.

Add that to two days in Montreal drinking Dieu de Ciel on draft at ther brewpub, as well as stops at the Ommegang Cafe and Troegs tasting room...and it's been quite a road trip!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 31, 2012, 11:21:53 am
Holy smokes - mine costs $5 a bottle at the source last week!

Quote from: sweetcell on August 29, 2012, 03:51:46 pm
checked it out yesterday - $19.99 a bottle :o :o :o

no thanks.  i'll wait.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 03, 2012, 12:23:22 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 31, 2012, 10:27:43 am
Stopped at the Alchemist Brewery (0.3 miles from Ben and Jerry's factory!) and Prohibition Pig in Waterbury, VT yesterday. Game, set, and match to Heady Topper. Holy crap. The US Open is now closed. Also had some fine Vermont beers from Hill Farmstead, Lawson's, and Zero Gravity. And picked up a bottle of Maine Beer Co. Zoe.

Add that to two days in Montreal drinking Dieu de Ciel on draft at ther brewpub, as well as stops at the Ommegang Cafe and Troegs tasting room...and it's been quite a road trip!

sweet road trip, bro!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 03, 2012, 06:24:01 pm
And if anybody is ever in Saratoga Springs, NY and wants FREE craft draft beer, PM me and I'll fill you in. Not on the level of the other places on my trip, but still pretty decent. And all you want, for FREE.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 04, 2012, 09:38:22 am
i want to go to sharon springs, ny.  it is gay wealthy central.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 04, 2012, 09:45:32 am
Really? That's surprising, given the figures on housing value, education, and percent of population who wre gay/lesbian couples.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Sharon-Springs-New-York.html

Quote from: walkonby on September 04, 2012, 09:38:22 am
i want to go to sharon springs, ny.  it is gay wealthy central.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 04, 2012, 10:15:43 am
http://beekman1802.com/

one of many gay owned companies there.  wealthy people love them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 06, 2012, 04:39:30 pm
thought the Great lakes Edmund Fitzgerald was the best of its kind until I tried the Founders Porter last night at the Big Hunt.  Wow what a roasty gem!

Anybody know how it holds up in a bottle?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 06, 2012, 04:45:41 pm
I've always preferred Founders Porter to Edmund Fitzgerald, both bottle and draft versions. Though they're both obviously good.

I recently had the Hill Farmstead Everett on draft up in Vermont, which may be the first porter I've had that beat the Founders. Though I'd have to try them side by side to truly compare.


Quote from: Bagley on September 06, 2012, 04:39:30 pm
thought the Great lakes Edmund Fitzgerald was the best of its kind until I tried the Founders Porter last night at the Big Hunt.  Wow what a roasty gem!

Anybody know how it holds up in a bottle?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 06, 2012, 04:51:37 pm
I had the Deschutes regular Black Butte and Black Butte XXIV porters over the weekend, 2 of the best beers I've tried
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 06, 2012, 04:56:57 pm
Have you tried their Obsidian Stout? It's the base beer for the Abyss, and better than the regular Black Butte, imo.

Quote from: fatskippy on September 06, 2012, 04:51:37 pm
I had the Deschutes regular Black Butte and Black Butte XXIV porters over the weekend, 2 of the best beers I've tried
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 06, 2012, 05:02:14 pm
I didn't get to try that one but I did also have their Mirror Pond Pale Ale, Inversion IPA, Chainbreaker White IPA, and Twilight Summer. All of them were outstanding and tasted exactly like you'd imagine the style should taste without anything fancy going on. The pale ale actually tasted like a pale ale and not a mislabeled IPA. I wish I could get Deschutes around here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 07, 2012, 10:41:31 am
i tried one of my Trader Joe 2011 Vintage ales on wednesday...  t'was decent, respectable, but i can think of othe Unibroue offerings that probably age better.  this wasn't particularly intense, per my hopes.

finally hit up perfect pour in columbia... woa.  brought back:
- pumpking: i must have had a bad bottle, 'cause this one had the distinct "corn" taste of DMS.  other than this fault, tasted like liquid pumpkin pie
- allagash reserve dubbel (had their reserve tripel previously, very nice!)
- long trail coffee stout
- the bruerie saison de lente

haven't tried the last 3.  i'm brewing today, once i've finished off my last 2 belgian blonds i might sip the coffee stout.

also checked out MD Homebrew in columbia.  nice staff, good selection - except for the fact that they don't sell wyest.  since i wanted their 3711 French Saison yeast, i left empty-handed.  it was the point of my drive out there, i should have called ahead.  i ended up driving to both myLHBS and the flying barrel to get all my supplies (myLHBS had the yeast, but couldn't mill the grains... *sigh*).  i was going to call this batch "Saison & On & On", but i'm now tempted to re-name it "160-mile Farmhouse Ale".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 07, 2012, 10:53:35 am
That's funny...i tried the first of the two TJ's 2011 Vintage Ale bottles that I had bought earlier this week as well. With basically the same thoughts. Sold but unspectacular. Less impressive than other Unibroue darks. Not sure how well it aged because it was the first I've tried.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 08, 2012, 09:33:47 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 07, 2012, 10:41:31 am
- the bruery saison de lente

saison de lente is an excellent classic saison.  has just a hint of brett and a nice subtle sourness.

the bruery is climbing in my esteem.  only had 3 of their beers so far, but all 3 have been excellent.  helps that they do mostly belgians.

that is all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 10, 2012, 11:46:30 am
the Founder's Breakfast Stout is out!   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 10, 2012, 11:50:55 am
love this time of year . . . when it comes to beers.  except pumpkin beer.  you can have that throwup.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 10, 2012, 12:00:01 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 10, 2012, 11:50:55 am
love this time of year . . . when it comes to beers.  except pumpkin beer.  you can have that throwup.

how to make a pumpkin beer:
make a shitty beer
add a bunch of pumpkin spice
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on September 10, 2012, 10:03:07 pm
CHURCHKEY BEER - A golden Pilsner that comes in a flat-top can.

http://www.churchkeycanco.com/home.html (http://www.churchkeycanco.com/home.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 12, 2012, 04:05:01 pm
http://now.msn.com/beer-milkshakes-are-being-sold-by-red-robin
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 13, 2012, 09:15:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 08, 2012, 09:33:47 pm
the bruery is climbing in my esteem.  only had 3 of their beers so far, but all 3 have been excellent.  helps that they do mostly belgians.

this looks like a great event:

The Bruery Rare and Obscure Night at Rustico Ballston
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 6:00pm
details: http://www.dcbeer.com/event/bruery-rare-and-obscure-night-rustico-ballston

just might trek out to that one, TBD.  in other news:

Snallygaster
DC Yards Park on the Waterfront
Oct 13, 1-5 pm
http://www.snallygasterdc.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on September 13, 2012, 09:24:28 pm
Funny...I generally can't stand any flavored beers, but I cannot get enough of pumpkin. 

What's also funny is seeing the hoopla here about Dogfish Head's Pumpkin...I was in Ocean City last weekend, and you can even get that stuff in 7-11. 

Quote from: walkonby on September 10, 2012, 11:50:55 am
love this time of year . . . when it comes to beers.  except pumpkin beer.  you can have that throwup.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 13, 2012, 10:05:07 pm
Quote from: nkotb on September 13, 2012, 09:24:28 pm
What's also funny is seeing the hoopla here about Dogfish Head's Pumpkin...I was in Ocean City last weekend, and you can even get that stuff in 7-11. 

Dogfish, Evo, Burley Oak and Flying Dog are everywhere in OC with the exception of Burley Oak which can only be found on tap or at their brewery in Berlin. They don't have the bottled distributorship together yet but they are getting it out to the bars.

Sorry I missed you. The bikers are here this weekend so lots and lots of beer will be flowing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on September 13, 2012, 10:16:37 pm
I'm actually back this weekend too.  My mother-in-law lives in OC part time, so while my wife is still on maternity leave, she and the kids took a three week trip to the beach.  I was bummed at first...then realize it means I can sleep more than four hours at a time :)

Quote from: Jaguar on September 13, 2012, 10:05:07 pm
Quote from: nkotb on September 13, 2012, 09:24:28 pm
What's also funny is seeing the hoopla here about Dogfish Head's Pumpkin...I was in Ocean City last weekend, and you can even get that stuff in 7-11. 

Dogfish, Evo, Burley Oak and Flying Dog are everywhere in OC with the exception of Burley Oak which can only be found on tap or at their brewery in Berlin. They don't have the bottled distributorship together yet but they are getting it out to the bars.

Sorry I missed you. The bikers are here this weekend so lots and lots of beer will be flowing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 24, 2012, 11:59:00 am
Lower Dens expand fall tour, but really, let's talk about the beer that got named after them

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/news/lower-dens-expand-fall-tour-but-really-lets-talk-about-the-beer-that-got-named-after-them
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 24, 2012, 02:12:07 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 24, 2012, 11:59:00 am
Lower Dens expand fall tour, but really, let's talk about the beer that got named after them

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/news/lower-dens-expand-fall-tour-but-really-lets-talk-about-the-beer-that-got-named-after-them

i missed there show at rnr a few months back, partly because it was at rnr, but mainly because they didn't have a beer named after them.

would be nice to see them at a '930 presents at usmh', with their beer on tap.  hey seth...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 24, 2012, 03:11:32 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 24, 2012, 02:12:07 pm
would be nice to see them at a '930 presents at usmh', with their beer on tap.  hey seth...

i'd definitely go.

hey wizzle - how did your saison turn out?  would you brew it again?  i've got one finishing up primary, so now it's a question of how long i want to let it sit before bottling.  i'm thinking at least a month if i can spare the carboy that long.  need to do a gravity & taste test tonight ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 24, 2012, 03:46:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 24, 2012, 03:11:32 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 24, 2012, 02:12:07 pm
would be nice to see them at a '930 presents at usmh', with their beer on tap.  hey seth...

i'd definitely go.

hey wizzle - how did your saison turn out?  would you brew it again?  i've got one finishing up primary, so now it's a question of how long i want to let it sit before bottling.  i'm thinking at least a month if i can spare the carboy that long.  need to do a gravity & taste test tonight ;D

it turned out great, color was a little light and flavor hops were a little soft, but overall really enjoyed it. sorachi is such a nice hop. tasted the soured version of it two weeks ago (although it has 6 months to go...), and that was fantastic. was going to brew it again but no longer have the warm temperatures required.

i think an ongoing problem i have is bottling too early.  you're debating a saison next?  we could do that tasting soon, too. have a saison, an iipa (which turned out pretty bleh), and some apple mead.  falconers flight ipa is in the primary right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on September 24, 2012, 04:03:45 pm
I visited Dogfish Head Alehouse in Gaithersburg last week. Other than Burton Baton (one of my favorite hoppy beers), I'm not a huge fan of any the Dogfish beers that I've had in the past (60-Minute IPA, 90-Minute IIPA, Midas Touch, Raison D'Etre, Indian Brown Ale, Shelter Pale Ale -- none of which really match my taste preferences, except Raison D'Etre, which I think is pretty good, and the Indian Brown Ale, which is quite drinkable but unremarkable), but I left there with a sizable appreciation for

Palo Santo Marron - great complexity -- the caramel and vanilla flavors are right in my wheelhouse

Namaste - a lovely witbier with a nice combination of orange and lemongrass flavors -- the hint of lemongrass is what elevates it to something special

Festina Peche - a peach weisse -- I had it for dessert, and it surprised me at how much I liked it

One of my friends got the sampler, and I had a little taste of some of them. I liked the Punkin Ale far more than I expected, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 24, 2012, 06:09:10 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 24, 2012, 03:46:27 pm
it turned out great, color was a little light and flavor hops were a little soft, but overall really enjoyed it. sorachi is such a nice hop. tasted the soured version of it two weeks ago (although it has 6 months to go...), and that was fantastic. was going to brew it again but no longer have the warm temperatures required.

i think an ongoing problem i have is bottling too early.  you're debating a saison next?  we could do that tasting soon, too. have a saison, an iipa (which turned out pretty bleh), and some apple mead.  falconers flight ipa is in the primary right now.

cool - what did you sour it with?  i have two 1-gallon jugs that i'm considering using for a brett'ed version of my saison.  i'm not debating a saison, it's done ;D

if you used 3711 French Saison, you should be fine at normal room temps.  you'll get a slightly different flavor profile (less fruity, more spicy) and may not attenuate quite so crazy; however it'll produce a great brew.  you could also get a brew belt/fermwrap.

bottling: i generally try to wait at least 4 weeks before i bottle, unless it's a small beer or something that benefits from freshness (like an IPA).  certain styles (like most belgians, big stouts, etc) benefit more from bulk aging than others.  quads, RIS and barleywines are pretty much undrinkable IMO until they're several months old... better for them to spend some of that time in primary/secondary so that flavor development is consistent across the batch.  what do you consider "bottling too early"? 

would love to do a tasting, if/when you have time - lemme know what works for you.  i currently have an IPA made with my homegrown hops, and my 6-month old belgian dark strong is coming around nicely.  the saison won't be ready for a month or two, and even then might benefit from some additional aging in the bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 25, 2012, 09:20:28 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 24, 2012, 06:09:10 pm
cool - what did you sour it with?  i have two 1-gallon jugs that i'm considering using for a brett'ed version of my saison.  i'm not debating a saison, it's done ;D

Just brett'ed it w/ Matilda yeast, and let it sit in a 1/2 gal jug. I've got tons of 1 gal glass jugs if you ever want any.  going to make a 1-gal gruit ale pretty soon...

Quote from: sweetcell on September 24, 2012, 06:09:10 pm
would love to do a tasting, if/when you have time - lemme know what works for you.  i currently have an IPA made with my homegrown hops, and my 6-month old belgian dark strong is coming around nicely.  the saison won't be ready for a month or two, and even then might benefit from some additional aging in the bottle.

PM'd
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 08:26:09 am
We went to the first anniversary party at Smoke and Barrel last night. With this draft list, it?s a wonder I made it into work today. Fun times!

Parabola  and Double Double typically go for about $20/bomber, and they had it at $5 for a 12 oz pour (all drafts were $5). Nice.

DRAFTS FOR SEPTEMBER 27th:

3 Stars Brewing Company Coffe Pandemic Porter
Aecht Schlenkerla Helles
Anthem Hops Cider
Bavik Petrus Aged Pale
Bayerishcer Bahnof Berliner Weisse Brett Edition
BFM Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien
Boulevard Collaboration #3 (Pretty Things) - Stingo
DC Brau Barrel-Aged Corruption
DC Brau Deus Ex Machina
DC Brau / Bluejacket: Embers of the Deceased
DC Brau / Meridian Pint: Barrel-Aged Ground Wolf IPA
DC Brau / Stillwater: Middle Name: Danger
Devils Backbone / DC Brau: Fight Club Anti-Gravity Lager
Firestone Walker Double Double Barrel Ale
Firestone Walker Parabola
Firestone Walker Wookey Jack
Hofstetten Oktoberfest
Lost Rhino Sweet Spot Pilsner
Oxbow Freestyle #7
Port City Derecho Common
Stillwater Barrel-Aged Debauched
Stillwater Of Love & Regret
Unibroue Trois Pistoles
Union Craft Brewing Balt Altbier




Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 08:28:27 am
September 28 and I still haven't drank a pumpkin beer this year.

I do have two Dogfish Punkins and two Schafley Pumpkins so I will at some point. Couldn't bring myself to by a four or sixer of anything though.

Quote from: stevewizzle on September 10, 2012, 12:00:01 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 10, 2012, 11:50:55 am
love this time of year . . . when it comes to beers.  except pumpkin beer.  you can have that throwup.

how to make a pumpkin beer:
make a shitty beer
add a bunch of pumpkin spice

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 08:35:19 am
To answer the first question...I can guess that most of them have shitty taste in beer.



How much can you guess about people from their choice of beer? The likelihood that they'll vote, for one, and maybe even who they'll vote for.

Data from 200,000 interviews gathered by Scarborough Research, showed strong correlations between a drinker's choice of brew and his or her political participation. A few beers drew from both sides of the aisle -- Fosters, Miller High Life, Bud Light and Natural Light were all smack in the middle of the spectrum. Others were decidedly left-leaning (Corona, Budweiser Select, Stella Artois), with Heineken taking the cake as the most liberal-friendly beer. Coors Light, Miller Lite, and Labatt Blue skewed strongly Republican, with Samuel Adams on top.

As far as voter turnout, Molson drinkers had the highest voting percentage among Democrats. For Republicans, Amstel Light and Sam Adams Light were nearly even.

Interestingly, National Journal points out that Dos Equis, the brewer that fell in political hot water after one of its spokesmen, "The Most Interesting Man in the World" Jonathan Goldsmith, hosted a fundraiser for President Obama, is actually one of the most bipartisan beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: moeszyslak on September 28, 2012, 08:41:36 am
Pick up a few bombers of Southern Tier's Pumpking.  $6.99 per bomber is outstanding for the beer you get.

Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 08:28:27 am
September 28 and I still haven't drank a pumpkin beer this year.

I do have two Dogfish Punkins and two Schafley Pumpkins so I will at some point. Couldn't bring myself to by a four or sixer of anything though.

Quote from: stevewizzle on September 10, 2012, 12:00:01 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 10, 2012, 11:50:55 am
love this time of year . . . when it comes to beers.  except pumpkin beer.  you can have that throwup.

how to make a pumpkin beer:
make a shitty beer
add a bunch of pumpkin spice

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 08:43:16 am
Meh, thanks, been there, done that. I'm not a big fan of the bomber format, for any beer. Nor am I a big fan of pumpkin beer.

Quote from: moeszslak on September 28, 2012, 08:41:36 am
Pick up a few bombers of Southern Tier's Pumpking.  $6.99 per bomber is outstanding for the beer you get.

Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 08:28:27 am
September 28 and I still haven't drank a pumpkin beer this year.

I do have two Dogfish Punkins and two Schafley Pumpkins so I will at some point. Couldn't bring myself to by a four or sixer of anything though.

Quote from: stevewizzle on September 10, 2012, 12:00:01 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 10, 2012, 11:50:55 am
love this time of year . . . when it comes to beers.  except pumpkin beer.  you can have that throwup.

how to make a pumpkin beer:
make a shitty beer
add a bunch of pumpkin spice

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 28, 2012, 08:47:12 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 08:26:09 am
We went to the first anniversary party at Smoke and Barrel last night. With this draft list, it?s a wonder I made it into work today. Fun times!

Parabola  and Double Double typically go for about $20/bomber, and they had it at $5 for a 12 oz pour (all drafts were $5). Nice.

DRAFTS FOR SEPTEMBER 27th:

3 Stars Brewing Company Coffe Pandemic Porter
Aecht Schlenkerla Helles
Anthem Hops Cider
Bavik Petrus Aged Pale
Bayerishcer Bahnof Berliner Weisse Brett Edition
BFM Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien
Boulevard Collaboration #3 (Pretty Things) - Stingo
DC Brau Barrel-Aged Corruption
DC Brau Deus Ex Machina
DC Brau / Bluejacket: Embers of the Deceased
DC Brau / Meridian Pint: Barrel-Aged Ground Wolf IPA
DC Brau / Stillwater: Middle Name: Danger
Devils Backbone / DC Brau: Fight Club Anti-Gravity Lager
Firestone Walker Double Double Barrel Ale
Firestone Walker Parabola
Firestone Walker Wookey Jack
Hofstetten Oktoberfest
Lost Rhino Sweet Spot Pilsner
Oxbow Freestyle #7
Port City Derecho Common
Stillwater Barrel-Aged Debauched
Stillwater Of Love & Regret
Unibroue Trois Pistoles
Union Craft Brewing Balt Altbier

i went last night.

i feel like i had a chair smashed over my head, repeatedly, WWE-style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 28, 2012, 10:06:44 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 28, 2012, 08:47:12 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 08:26:09 am
We went to the first anniversary party at Smoke and Barrel last night. With this draft list, it?s a wonder I made it into work today. Fun times!

Parabola  and Double Double typically go for about $20/bomber, and they had it at $5 for a 12 oz pour (all drafts were $5). Nice.

DRAFTS FOR SEPTEMBER 27th:

3 Stars Brewing Company Coffe Pandemic Porter
Aecht Schlenkerla Helles
Anthem Hops Cider
Bavik Petrus Aged Pale
Bayerishcer Bahnof Berliner Weisse Brett Edition
BFM Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien
Boulevard Collaboration #3 (Pretty Things) - Stingo
DC Brau Barrel-Aged Corruption
DC Brau Deus Ex Machina
DC Brau / Bluejacket: Embers of the Deceased
DC Brau / Meridian Pint: Barrel-Aged Ground Wolf IPA
DC Brau / Stillwater: Middle Name: Danger
Devils Backbone / DC Brau: Fight Club Anti-Gravity Lager
Firestone Walker Double Double Barrel Ale
Firestone Walker Parabola
Firestone Walker Wookey Jack
Hofstetten Oktoberfest
Lost Rhino Sweet Spot Pilsner
Oxbow Freestyle #7
Port City Derecho Common
Stillwater Barrel-Aged Debauched
Stillwater Of Love & Regret
Unibroue Trois Pistoles
Union Craft Brewing Balt Altbier

i went last night.

i feel like i had a chair smashed over my head, repeatedly, WWE-style.

okay, order in my life has restored a little bit.  what a cool event, and some pretty fantastic beers.

Deus Ex Machina has got to be the best beer DC Brau has done.  this is a seriously kick ass IIPA.

Stillwater Of Love & Regret is herbally delicious.  this is the likely suspect for why my head is pounding.

Stillwater barrel-aged debauche was a delicious sour.

Unibroue Trois Pistoles on tap was great. i've only ever had unibroue in bottle, was a welcome change.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on September 28, 2012, 10:12:04 am
I picked up some New Belgium Red Hoptober on a whim and enjoyed it greatly, even though I'm not usually an "amber ale" kind of guy and I've disliked a couple of other New Belgiums.  It's a good seasonal alternative to pumpkin beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 10:13:25 am
Double IPA's are also a good seasonal alternative to pumpkin beers.  :D
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on September 28, 2012, 10:12:04 am
I picked up some New Belgium Red Hoptober on a whim and enjoyed it greatly, even though I'm not usually an "amber ale" kind of guy and I've disliked a couple of other New Belgiums.  It's a good seasonal alternative to pumpkin beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 28, 2012, 10:14:00 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 08:26:09 am
We went to the first anniversary party at Smoke and Barrel last night. With this draft list, it?s a wonder I made it into work today. Fun times!

Parabola  and Double Double typically go for about $20/bomber, and they had it at $5 for a 12 oz pour (all drafts were $5). Nice.

DRAFTS FOR SEPTEMBER 27th:

3 Stars Brewing Company Coffe Pandemic Porter
Aecht Schlenkerla Helles
Anthem Hops Cider
Bavik Petrus Aged Pale
Bayerishcer Bahnof Berliner Weisse Brett Edition
BFM Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien
Boulevard Collaboration #3 (Pretty Things) - Stingo
DC Brau Barrel-Aged Corruption
DC Brau Deus Ex Machina
DC Brau / Bluejacket: Embers of the Deceased
DC Brau / Meridian Pint: Barrel-Aged Ground Wolf IPA
DC Brau / Stillwater: Middle Name: Danger
Devils Backbone / DC Brau: Fight Club Anti-Gravity Lager
Firestone Walker Double Double Barrel Ale
Firestone Walker Parabola
Firestone Walker Wookey Jack
Hofstetten Oktoberfest
Lost Rhino Sweet Spot Pilsner
Oxbow Freestyle #7
Port City Derecho Common
Stillwater Barrel-Aged Debauched
Stillwater Of Love & Regret
Unibroue Trois Pistoles
Union Craft Brewing Balt Altbier


Dang - I guess there were alot of boardies there last night - I got this there around 9pm and stayed for about 90 minutes

had a parabola and a debauched - both fantastic in different ways
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 10:18:05 am
Are you saying the Deus Ex Machina was better than On the Wings of Armageddon, or have you just not had the latter?  The Deus Ex Machina was apparently a "mistake" beer, accidentally created when they were trying to brew a batch of OTWOA.

We stuck to Firestone Walker stuff, except for one Stillwater Debauched. My wife had to drink that one. I think I can definitively say I'm not a sour beer guy. ..

...We even had a Cantillon Gueze when we were in Belgium, and that was a drain pour for me...luckily my wife was happy to drink that one too.


Quote from: stevewizzle on September 28, 2012, 10:06:44 am

okay, order in my life has restored a little bit.  what a cool event, and some pretty fantastic beers.

Deus Ex Machina has got to be the best beer DC Brau has done.  this is a seriously kick ass IIPA.

Stillwater Of Love & Regret is herbally delicious.  this is the likely suspect for why my head is pounding.

Stillwater barrel-aged debauche was a delicious sour.

Unibroue Trois Pistoles on tap was great. i've only ever had unibroue in bottle, was a welcome change.



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 10:21:12 am
Some of their regular pricing was kind of curious...

like 12 oz of Trois Pistoles for $10 vs. 12 oz of Parabola for $10.

You can get a four pack of Trois Pistoles for 8 or 9 bucks at Total Wine, whereas a 26 oz bomber of Parabola will run you close to $20, if you can get it at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 28, 2012, 10:26:44 am
I tasted the Deus Ex Machina a few weeks ago at the brewery and it was not good - waaaaay too bitter

A buddy who had it last night had the same reaction to his first taste of it a few weeks ago but said it was drinking fantastically last night so I have no idea if a few more weeks mellowed it out at all

Or maybe we're just all full of shit  ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 28, 2012, 10:33:29 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 10:18:05 am
Are you saying the Deus Ex Machina was better than On the Wings of Armageddon, or have you just not had the latter?  The Deus Ex Machina was apparently a "mistake" beer, accidentally created when they were trying to brew a batch of OTWOA.

We stuck to Firestone Walker stuff, except for one Stillwater Debauched. My wife had to drink that one. I think I can definitively say I'm not a sour beer guy. ..

...We even had a Cantillon Gueze when we were in Belgium, and that was a drain pour for me...luckily my wife was happy to drink that one too.


Quote from: stevewizzle on September 28, 2012, 10:06:44 am

okay, order in my life has restored a little bit.  what a cool event, and some pretty fantastic beers.

Deus Ex Machina has got to be the best beer DC Brau has done.  this is a seriously kick ass IIPA.

Stillwater Of Love & Regret is herbally delicious.  this is the likely suspect for why my head is pounding.

Stillwater barrel-aged debauche was a delicious sour.

Unibroue Trois Pistoles on tap was great. i've only ever had unibroue in bottle, was a welcome change.

man, it was a mistake beer?  sometimes dc brau is deceptively good (i credit the "freshness" aspect), the hop flavor really comes out well, and is well-balanced with the aroma and bitterness. very similar to hoptimum.  OTWOA previously held the top spot for me, which is funny i failed to notice the similarities...

those firestone walker brews are delicious. they seem to have a bigger presence in DC as of late.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 10:36:43 am
Does anybody know if DC Brau ever posts what they have on draft over at the brewery, or do you just have to see what they have when you arrive?

Planning on making our second visit Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 28, 2012, 10:37:35 am
Quote from: brennser on September 28, 2012, 10:26:44 am
I tasted the Deus Ex Machina a few weeks ago at the brewery and it was not good - waaaaay too bitter

A buddy who had it last night had the same reaction to his first taste of it a few weeks ago but said it was drinking fantastically last night so I have no idea if a few more weeks mellowed it out at all

Or maybe we're just all full of shit  ::)

whoever named the beer deus ex machina would be very pleased to read this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 28, 2012, 10:38:34 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 10:36:43 am
Does anybody know if DC Brau ever posts what they have on draft over at the brewery, or do you just have to see what they have when you arrive?

Planning on making our second visit Saturday.

they usually tweet what they are pouring day of.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on September 28, 2012, 10:45:34 am
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2012/09/the-politics-of-3.php

(http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/beer.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 28, 2012, 12:30:09 pm
if you are what you drink republicans are shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 28, 2012, 12:31:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 10:36:43 am
Does anybody know if DC Brau ever posts what they have on draft over at the brewery, or do you just have to see what they have when you arrive?

Planning on making our second visit Saturday.

DC Brau Brewing ‏@dcbrau
Beer 4 tomorrow's Growler Hours 12-4pm. (DRAFT) Last Keg of DEUS, Embers, Corruption, Citizen, Public (Can) Corruption, Citizen and Public.


Its a real pity there is no more (at least for now) of their Middle Name Danger Saison collab w/ Stillwater - that shit was the bomb
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 12:32:58 pm
They're both equally crappy.

Guinness is the only one on that chart I'd ever touch.

Quote from: hutch on September 28, 2012, 12:30:09 pm
if you are what you drink republicans are shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 12:35:23 pm
Thanks! Looks like I made the right decision not trying Deus at Smoke and Barrel, thinking/hoping i might get to try it at the brewery tomorrow.

Quote from: brennser on September 28, 2012, 12:31:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 28, 2012, 10:36:43 am
Does anybody know if DC Brau ever posts what they have on draft over at the brewery, or do you just have to see what they have when you arrive?

Planning on making our second visit Saturday.

DC Brau Brewing ‏@dcbrau
Beer 4 tomorrow's Growler Hours 12-4pm. (DRAFT) Last Keg of DEUS, Embers, Corruption, Citizen, Public (Can) Corruption, Citizen and Public.


Its a real pity there is no more (at least for now) of their Middle Name Danger Saison collab w/ Stillwater - that shit was the bomb
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 28, 2012, 07:43:04 pm
Another new brewery opening up on the Delmarva peninsula:

3rd Wave Brewing Co. (http://www.wboc.com/story/19669526/new-brewery-set-to-debut-in-delmar-del)

That makes Dogfish Head
Burley Oak Brewery
Evolution Brewery
Now 3rd Wave Brewing Co.

... and I think I'm missing a couple.

There's a few wineries too.


Yeah, I'm missing a lot. The Toast Our Coast (http://www.toastourcoast.com) Wine & Ale Trail is a little venture I'd love to take sometime, providing I have someone else along to do the driving. The Bordeleau Winery is the place I really want to visit for lunch and wine which is in Eden, Maryland. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 01, 2012, 01:06:34 pm
Has anyone been to Frisco yet to try their brew?  I haven't made it over there yet!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 03, 2012, 10:38:53 am
Quote from: K8teebug on October 01, 2012, 01:06:34 pm
Has anyone been to Frisco yet to try their brew?  I haven't made it over there yet!
I was there yesterday for the first time - just had a taste of 1 of their brews - it was decent but with so much other great stuff on tap at very friendly prices I went for the more established names on their list
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 03, 2012, 02:20:17 pm
where/what is "frisco"?  del frisco's?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 02:49:23 pm
Frisco Grille in Columbia, MD.

http://www.friscogrille.com/beers.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 03, 2012, 03:24:10 pm
Oh, I didn't realize that's what she was referring to.
Been there a couple of times, even though I live in NoVA.
Found the beer to be a bit overpriced and the food a bit meh. But it's Columbia, so I reckon it's slim pickings for places with good beer.

Quote from: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 02:49:23 pm
Frisco Grille in Columbia, MD.

http://www.friscogrille.com/beers.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 11:35:55 pm
The food is mostly meh, but there are a few things on the menu that are consistently quite good. As with a lot of places, you just have to know how to order. I agree that the beer prices are kind of expensive, but their prices are cheaper than Dogfish Head Alehouse and Churchkey DC, for example. Alcohol is taxed more in in MD than VA, so that should be taken into consideration.

I'm not a resident of Columbia, but I have friends who are. Columbia actually has several good places for quality beer besides just Frisco Grille. The other one that stands out is Victoria Gastro-Pub, which has better, more sophisticated food than Frisco Grille and their rotating beer selection is comparable, but it's also more expensive. They also have a very large list of bottled beers not found on their website.

http://victoriagastropub.com/

And Rams Head Tavern in Savage Mill is only a few miles away from Columbia. While they have a handful of quality beers on tap in the Rathskellar and the Fordham house beers are pretty good, I actually prefer their selection of imported bottled beers.

http://www.ramsheadtavern.com/savage/documents/2012%20Savage%20Drink%20Menu.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 04, 2012, 07:34:16 am
I was there for happy hour and their prices beat the pants off of just about every beer place in DC

Quote from: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 11:35:55 pm
I agree that the beer prices are kind of expensive, but their prices are cheaper than Dogfish Head Alehouse and Churchkey DC, for example. Alcohol is taxed more in in MD than VA, so that should be taken into consideration.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2012, 09:09:30 am
That's nice, but I don't think I'd ever have a reason to be in Columbia, MD during happy hour. Unless I lived there. And I don't.

Quote from: brennser on October 04, 2012, 07:34:16 am
I was there for happy hour and their prices beat the pants off of just about every beer place in DC

Quote from: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 11:35:55 pm
I agree that the beer prices are kind of expensive, but their prices are cheaper than Dogfish Head Alehouse and Churchkey DC, for example. Alcohol is taxed more in in MD than VA, so that should be taken into consideration.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 04, 2012, 09:14:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 03, 2012, 03:24:10 pm
Oh, I didn't realize that's what she was referring to.
Been there a couple of times, even though I live in NoVA.
Found the beer to be a bit overpriced and the food a bit meh. But it's Columbia, so I reckon it's slim pickings for places with good beer.

Quote from: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 02:49:23 pm
Frisco Grille in Columbia, MD.

http://www.friscogrille.com/beers.php

Actually, there's a bunch of really great places for beer in Columbia.  Frisco's, Victoria Gastropub, River Hill Grill, Judge's Bench.  That's where I usually go.  But, I live here, so it's a little easier for me :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2012, 09:34:13 am
Thanks for that list. I was aware of Victoria, it just seemed too pricey for me. i'll check out the other two. Might someday need a place to go before a Merriweather show!


Quote from: K8teebug on October 04, 2012, 09:14:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 03, 2012, 03:24:10 pm
Oh, I didn't realize that's what she was referring to.
Been there a couple of times, even though I live in NoVA.
Found the beer to be a bit overpriced and the food a bit meh. But it's Columbia, so I reckon it's slim pickings for places with good beer.

Quote from: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 02:49:23 pm
Frisco Grille in Columbia, MD.

http://www.friscogrille.com/beers.php

Actually, there's a bunch of really great places for beer in Columbia.  Frisco's, Victoria Gastropub, River Hill Grill, Judge's Bench.  That's where I usually go.  But, I live here, so it's a little easier for me :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 04, 2012, 05:18:23 pm
I work in Baltimore 2x a week so I do have reason to be there  ;D

Quote from: James Ford on October 04, 2012, 09:09:30 am
That's nice, but I don't think I'd ever have a reason to be in Columbia, MD during happy hour. Unless I lived there. And I don't.

Quote from: brennser on October 04, 2012, 07:34:16 am
I was there for happy hour and their prices beat the pants off of just about every beer place in DC

Quote from: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 11:35:55 pm
I agree that the beer prices are kind of expensive, but their prices are cheaper than Dogfish Head Alehouse and Churchkey DC, for example. Alcohol is taxed more in in MD than VA, so that should be taken into consideration.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 04, 2012, 08:52:14 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on October 04, 2012, 09:14:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 03, 2012, 03:24:10 pm
Oh, I didn't realize that's what she was referring to.
Been there a couple of times, even though I live in NoVA.
Found the beer to be a bit overpriced and the food a bit meh. But it's Columbia, so I reckon it's slim pickings for places with good beer.

Quote from: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 02:49:23 pm
Frisco Grille in Columbia, MD.

http://www.friscogrille.com/beers.php

Actually, there's a bunch of really great places for beer in Columbia.  Frisco's, Victoria Gastropub, River Hill Grill, Judge's Bench.  That's where I usually go.  But, I live here, so it's a little easier for me :)

Frisco is a cool place but Victoria's gastro pub sucks balls.  I went their on a friday night and we had dinner and ordered samplers of beers and before we could finish they started flashing the lights to get us to leave.  This was around 11:00 Pm.  super lame. Never would go there again.  Food wasn't very good either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 05, 2012, 08:52:10 am
Quote from: K8teebug on October 04, 2012, 09:14:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 03, 2012, 03:24:10 pm
Oh, I didn't realize that's what she was referring to.
Been there a couple of times, even though I live in NoVA.
Found the beer to be a bit overpriced and the food a bit meh. But it's Columbia, so I reckon it's slim pickings for places with good beer.

Quote from: Darth Ed on October 03, 2012, 02:49:23 pm
Frisco Grille in Columbia, MD.

http://www.friscogrille.com/beers.php

Actually, there's a bunch of really great places for beer in Columbia.  Frisco's, Victoria Gastropub, River Hill Grill, Judge's Bench.  That's where I usually go.  But, I live here, so it's a little easier for me :)

This is good to know.  I work in Columbia and have been to Frisco and Victoria.  They both have decent enough selections, but just weren't working for me for some reason.  I'll certainly check out the others, as I was with the general consensus here that Columbia was a beer desert.

Who am I kidding though, I have a dog who I have to go home and let out everyday, so I don't get to happy hour anymore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 05, 2012, 10:33:28 am
Quote from: atomicfront on October 04, 2012, 08:52:14 pm
Victoria's gastro pub sucks balls.

Agreed.  Beer list is ok but the food is overpriced and generally so-so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 05, 2012, 10:34:26 am
I love Victoria Gastropub.  Clearly you did not have the duck fat fries.  Their burger is good too.  I have never had a bad experience there and I've been going since it opened.  They also have a great brunch.  I will say that I typically go there to have a beer or two and get some fries.  I don't often go there for dinner because their food is more on the pricey side.

My favorite place these days is Judge's Bench.  I like the dive-ness of it, and it's always good people watching. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 05, 2012, 10:43:27 am
DC blog about experimental fermentation: http://www.themadfermentationist.com/

becoming one of my favorite reads.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 05, 2012, 11:37:19 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 05, 2012, 10:43:27 am
DC blog about experimental fermentation: http://www.themadfermentationist.com/

becoming one of my favorite reads.

he's a little over the deep end in terms of wild fermentation for me (i'm just not that into sours), but his site is an amazing resource.  probably the single best online resource for sour brewing.

my saison is just about done.  i'll be putting 2 gallons into jugs and pitching matilda (brett B) dregs.  won't touch it again until my birthday in february.  my first experiment with da funk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 05, 2012, 11:49:15 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 05, 2012, 11:37:19 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 05, 2012, 10:43:27 am
DC blog about experimental fermentation: http://www.themadfermentationist.com/

becoming one of my favorite reads.

he's a little over the deep end in terms of wild fermentation for me (i'm just not that into sours), but his site is an amazing resource.  probably the single best online resource for sour brewing.

my saison is just about done.  i'll be putting 2 gallons into jugs and pitching matilda (brett B) dregs.  won't touch it again until my birthday in february.  my first experiment with da funk.

love it!  saison+brett = match made in heaven.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 05, 2012, 12:00:48 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 05, 2012, 11:49:15 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 05, 2012, 11:37:19 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 05, 2012, 10:43:27 am
DC blog about experimental fermentation: http://www.themadfermentationist.com/

becoming one of my favorite reads.

he's a little over the deep end in terms of wild fermentation for me (i'm just not that into sours), but his site is an amazing resource.  probably the single best online resource for sour brewing.

my saison is just about done.  i'll be putting 2 gallons into jugs and pitching matilda (brett B) dregs.  won't touch it again until my birthday in february.  my first experiment with da funk.

love it!  saison+brett = match made in heaven.

Attempting a sour beer is somewhere on my short list of homebrewing, but I have read exactly nothing on the subject thus far.  Anyway, I'll certainly be checking out that page for some info to get me started whenever i get to it.

This weekend (tomorrow before FreeFest actually) I'm going to brew the Pliny the Elder recipe in the new IPA book from Mitch Steele.  What a pain it was trying to find Centennial and Amarillo, ugh.  Maybe after this hop bomb (if it remotely turns out) it'll be time to get busy on a sour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 05, 2012, 05:01:26 pm
imbecile - nice to hear we have another brewer on here.  that brings us up to four, as far as i know.  anyone else?

on the off chance you didn't already know: homebrewtalk.com is another site you should check out for info.  there is a sub-forum dedicated to wilds & sours (link (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f127/)).  folks are really helpful when you ask questions.  another great resource.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 15, 2012, 11:39:36 am
Had one of these on draft last night. Perhaps the first Sam Adams beer I've ever thouroughly enjoyed.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4481179391_b4b96e59f2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 15, 2012, 12:12:59 pm
Had a few great beers at Snallygaster this weekend... specifically the casked Harvest Ale by Founders.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: showlistdc on October 15, 2012, 12:28:10 pm
anyone going to the nova brew fest this weekend?
http://novabrewfest.com/fall
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 15, 2012, 01:36:32 pm
loookie what i found

(http://blogimages.bloggen.be/bier_in_beeld/1883103-99d8b461455115c0c32c02e3afe8e5cb.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 15, 2012, 02:04:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 15, 2012, 12:12:59 pm
Had a few great beers at Snallygaster this weekend... specifically the casked Harvest Ale by Founders.

damn, jealous you snagged that, sold out before I could get it (1:45pm I think?)

the pumpkin lambicus was my favorite from snally.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 16, 2012, 07:49:48 am
Quote from: K8teebug on October 05, 2012, 10:34:26 am
I love Victoria Gastropub.  Clearly you did not have the duck fat fries. 

My favorite place these days is Judge's Bench.  I like the dive-ness of it, and it's always good people watching. 

Have had the duck fries and while they taste good I imagine they do much damage to one's arteries.

Judge's Bench is my favorite place in Ellicott City.  Watched Chris Davis beat the Red Sox there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on October 16, 2012, 09:42:03 am
Yesterday I saw one of the worker's at Rick's at a bar drinking...MILLER LITE  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 16, 2012, 09:52:57 am
on a list for founders backwoods bastard and harvest ale.  here's hoping.  as much as i hate breweries that release once a year brew . . . these two i will make an exception for.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 16, 2012, 10:41:49 am
They're making lists for Backwoods Bastard these days? I've always found that one pretty easy to come by. And with the staff from Rick's now drinking Miller Lite, it seems that maybe the whole craft beer thing is coming to an end....so should continue to be easy to get.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 16, 2012, 10:46:49 am
who's rick?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2012, 11:41:32 am
stevewizzle came over to my place a week and a half ago for the first boardee homebrew tasting.  wizzle's saison was amazing, no wonder it scored so well at a recent competition.  it was better than most commercial saison i've had.  he also brought some 6-year-old mead which was mind-blowing.  his pale ale tasted solid, but it wasn't carbonated yet so needed a little more time (he had just bottled it that morning).  i poured my homegrown hop IPA, a dark belgian and my pseudo-soured breakfast stout. 

gonna have to do it again.  i'll be bottling a belgian blond and a saison this weekend so i'll be ready in a few weeks.  any other interested parties?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 16, 2012, 02:21:25 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 15, 2012, 02:04:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 15, 2012, 12:12:59 pm
Had a few great beers at Snallygaster this weekend... specifically the casked Harvest Ale by Founders.

damn, jealous you snagged that, sold out before I could get it (1:45pm I think?)

the pumpkin lambicus was my favorite from snally.

Basically the main reason I wanted to attend was that brew.


Another notables:
Wet and Wyld by Unita
Wookey Jack by Firestone Walker
On The Wings Of Armageddon by DC Brau (wow, what an amazing beer, would put it just under some of the notables like Hopslam, Pliney, Heady Topper)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 16, 2012, 10:00:18 pm
Quote from: walkonby on October 16, 2012, 10:46:49 am
who's rick?

rick's wine in alexandria, i assume.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 16, 2012, 11:03:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 16, 2012, 11:41:32 am
stevewizzle came over to my place a week and a half ago for the first boardee homebrew tasting.  wizzle's saison was amazing, no wonder it scored so well at a recent competition.  it was better than most commercial saison i've had.  he also brought some 6-year-old mead which was mind-blowing.  his pale ale tasted solid, but it wasn't carbonated yet so needed a little more time (he had just bottled it that morning).  i poured my homegrown hop IPA, a dark belgian and my pseudo-soured breakfast stout. 

gonna have to do it again.  i'll be bottling a belgian blond and a saison this weekend so i'll be ready in a few weeks.  any other interested parties?

appreciate the kind words on the brews, the saison has been a treat, and you definitely have a winner with your dark belgian. i've been on a belgian dubbel kick since, and haven't had anything quite as tasty. it's too cool you gow ryour own hops for your beer. homebrewing is the shit.

would be cool to get others out. even maybe do a beer thread tasting, doesn't have to be limited to homebrews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 17, 2012, 12:58:45 pm
baltimore beer week starts on friday - http://www.baltimorebeerweek.com/

Maryland's 20 best beers
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/bs-b-marylands-best-beers-pg,0,5170941.photogallery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 17, 2012, 02:10:48 pm
Union Craft wins gold at Great American Beer Festival  (http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/blog/charm-city-flavor/2012/10/union-brewing-wins-gold-medal-gabf.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 12:04:21 pm
I read that Goose Island Bourbon County Stout has dropped in DC and MD.

Debating whether to give $25 for a four pack to InBev, or to save my money knowing I have KBS in my cellar, and access to all of the delicious Founders Breakfast Stout at $10/four pack that I want.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 01:48:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2012, 12:58:45 pm
baltimore beer week starts on friday - http://www.baltimorebeerweek.com/

Maryland's 20 best beers
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/bs-b-marylands-best-beers-pg,0,5170941.photogallery


giving nattie boh an honarable mention was stupid. Not only does it not taste very good but it gives me the runs everytime I drink it and it isn't made in Maryland. If they want to give honarable mentions they should have given it to dogfish head which is close enought to maryland and makes fine beer.

Ressurection and Ozzy are good beers. If you like your beer strong.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 02:02:51 pm
You're 47 and you continue to drink something that tastes bad and gives you the runs?

Resurrection is 7% abv and Ozzy is 7.25% abv. i'd hardly call that strong.

Quote from: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 01:48:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2012, 12:58:45 pm
baltimore beer week starts on friday - http://www.baltimorebeerweek.com/

Maryland's 20 best beers
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/bs-b-marylands-best-beers-pg,0,5170941.photogallery


giving nattie boh an honarable mention was stupid. Not only does it not taste very good but it gives me the runs everytime I drink it and it isn't made in Maryland. If they want to give honarable mentions they should have given it to dogfish head which is close enought to maryland and makes fine beer.

Ressurection and Ozzy are good beers. If you like your beer strong.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 18, 2012, 02:03:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 12:04:21 pm
I read that Goose Island Bourbon County Stout has dropped in DC and MD.

Debating whether to give $25 for a four pack to InBev, or to save my money knowing I have KBS in my cellar, and access to all of the delicious Founders Breakfast Stout at $10/four pack that I want.

Picked up a four pack this morning.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on October 18, 2012, 02:25:19 pm
I would...if you're a pussy.

Quote from: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 02:02:51 pm
You're 47 and you continue to drink something that tastes bad and gives you the runs?

Resurrection is 7% abv and Ozzy is 7.25% abv. i'd hardly call that strong.

Quote from: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 01:48:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2012, 12:58:45 pm
baltimore beer week starts on friday - http://www.baltimorebeerweek.com/

Maryland's 20 best beers
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/bs-b-marylands-best-beers-pg,0,5170941.photogallery


giving nattie boh an honarable mention was stupid. Not only does it not taste very good but it gives me the runs everytime I drink it and it isn't made in Maryland. If they want to give honarable mentions they should have given it to dogfish head which is close enought to maryland and makes fine beer.

Ressurection and Ozzy are good beers. If you like your beer strong.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 02:29:55 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 02:02:51 pm
You're 47 and you continue to drink something that tastes bad and gives you the runs?

Resurrection is 7% abv and Ozzy is 7.25% abv. i'd hardly call that strong.

Quote from: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 01:48:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2012, 12:58:45 pm
baltimore beer week starts on friday - http://www.baltimorebeerweek.com/

Maryland's 20 best beers
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/bs-b-marylands-best-beers-pg,0,5170941.photogallery

giving nattie boh an honarable mention was stupid. Not only does it not taste very good but it gives me the runs everytime I drink it and it isn't made in Maryland. If they want to give honarable mentions they should have given it to dogfish head which is close enought to maryland and makes fine beer.

Ressurection and Ozzy are good beers. If you like your beer strong.   


I wouldn't say I continually drink it.  was at baseball game and someone bought on for me.  was at pickles outside baseball game opening day it was so crowded it was the only beer i could get to. 
Also I think the brewers art beers are stronger than labled.  even at 7.5 perecent they are stronger than most beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 02:39:29 pm
Nah, 7.5% is pretty average these days.

Resurrection is good, don't think I've had Ozzy. Though his autobiography was fun to read, but that's another story.

(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz67/hoppress/K%20M%20Weaver/ABV%20Trends/PercentageABV.jpg)

Average % ABV of New Beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 03:46:09 pm
it is a lot higher than non us beers and I would bet it is a lot higher than most us beers that people actually drink.  I would bet 99 percent of beer consumed would be in the 4% to 6% range.  Just because brands like dogfish head produce 25 different beers most over 7 percent I would assume the beer they sell the most of by far is 60 minute IPA which is 6 percent. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 03:48:17 pm
ON a unrelated note when I was recently in Iceland I noticed most places only had one beer on draft.  It was kind of nice just to ask for a beer instead of having 100 different choices.  And the beer the different places had all tasted pretty similar.  A viking, gull or tuborg were all pretty much the same in taste. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 04:24:16 pm
Not  higher than most Belgian beers, who Brewer's Art is imitating.  ;)

I guess it's a matter of semantics. Yes, most of the beer consumed is between 4-6%. That's because 90+% of the US beer market is still Bud/Miller/Coors swill.

I was comparing it to actual different beers. There are many, many different beers that are above 7.5%. Doesn't mean that's what most people drink though.

Quote from: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 03:46:09 pm
it is a lot higher than non us beers and I would bet it is a lot higher than most us beers that people actually drink.  I would bet 99 percent of beer consumed would be in the 4% to 6% range.  Just because brands like dogfish head produce 25 different beers most over 7 percent I would assume the beer they sell the most of by far is 60 minute IPA which is 6 percent. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 18, 2012, 04:51:17 pm
bought a four pack of st. bernardus.  have not had it in a while.  man . . . it's expensive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 06:07:51 pm
I bought four singles when I was in Belgium. Probably abouit $8 total.
 :P
Quote from: walkonby on October 18, 2012, 04:51:17 pm
bought a four pack of st. bernardus.  have not had it in a while.  man . . . it's expensive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 19, 2012, 09:11:36 am
The Annapolis Craft Beer and Music Festival (https://www.livingsocial.com/events/492052-the-annapolis-craft-beer-and-music-festival)

10/27
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2012, 09:27:23 am
I spent five of the best hours of my life on Old Rag yesterday. Solo climb, with a half baguette, parrano cheese, cranberry pepper jellly, dark chocolate, and a bottle of this:


(http://justbeer.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/veihenstephaner-vitus.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2012, 09:41:45 am
I also picked up a growler of DC Brau Armageddon at Whole Foods on the way home. 64 oz for $12.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 25, 2012, 09:47:45 am
hve u evr tried online beer sales companies, james.  r there any worth it able to get hard to find beers?  i'm tired of livin n the sticks and want a better selection of beers without going into the city where i will get shot and stabbed. 

i <3 talking like i texting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2012, 09:53:37 am
I think i once ordered some beer and had it sent to my brother as an Xmas gift. Apparently the beer froze and the bottles cracked, or something to that extent. So my one experience was not good.

Quote from: walkonby on October 25, 2012, 09:47:45 am
hve u evr tried online beer sales companies, james.  r there any worth it able to get hard to find beers?  i'm tired of livin n the sticks and want a better selection of beers without going into the city where i will get shot and stabbed. 

i <3 talking like i texting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 25, 2012, 12:44:22 pm
ordering beer online = expensive.  might be worth it to you, but don't expect any deals.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 25, 2012, 01:20:44 pm
i have noticed the $$ of them.  it is worth it to me, seeing how i will drive 2 hours just to buy great selections of beer and thats a lot of gas.  i'm tired of hearing from my local shoppes, "we don't sell enough beer to have any of the hard to find stuff allocated to us." 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2012, 01:42:10 pm
How far away from Wegmans in Gainseville or Whole Foods in Fair Lakes are you?

Quote from: walkonby on October 25, 2012, 01:20:44 pm
i have noticed the $$ of them.  it is worth it to me, seeing how i will drive 2 hours just to buy great selections of beer and thats a lot of gas.  i'm tired of hearing from my local shoppes, "we don't sell enough beer to have any of the hard to find stuff allocated to us." 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 25, 2012, 10:31:02 pm
easy 45 minutes to an hour for both, one way.  sixty six is so boring.  trees and sky.  i need more than trees and sky when i drive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 26, 2012, 10:05:10 am
Great deal for folks in the Bethesda area...

https://www.livingsocial.com/deals/476900?ref=conf-jp&rpi=89265070
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 26, 2012, 02:20:31 pm
i am now the proud owner of six bottles of founders harvest.  bolt cutter and backwoods bastard are in next week.

excuse me . . . while i go play with myself now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 26, 2012, 03:44:07 pm
Ballast Point has landed in MD and DC.

Apparently, Sculpin is available in a six pack for around $15. A little pricey, but third only to Heady Topper and Hopslam among IPA's I've had (and I've had Pliny).

THat's a much better deal than the $9/ 22 oz bomber price we pay in VA.

Hope they bring the six pack to VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 26, 2012, 03:45:20 pm
I still have three or four Backwoods Bastard's from last year. Debating whether to skip the annual purchase this year.

Looking forward to Bolt Cutter!


Quote from: walkonby on October 26, 2012, 02:20:31 pm
i am now the proud owner of six bottles of founders harvest.  bolt cutter and backwoods bastard are in next week.

excuse me . . . while i go play with myself now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 28, 2012, 03:32:04 pm
Picked up the last two four packs of Harvest Ale at Rodman's yesterday.  :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 29, 2012, 08:16:11 am
i asked what i think was ten stores about harvest.  everyone, and i mean everybody only got one case. six four pack . . . and you are telling me that some idiot owner just let whoever buy whatever of it?  they should never be allowed to sell beer again.  i used to hate the 1 or2 bottle or 1 four pack max buy, but atleast other people get to try the beer.  fuck stores that let you buy two four packs.  fuck them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 29, 2012, 08:55:52 am
Quote from: walkonby on October 29, 2012, 08:16:11 am
i asked what i think was ten stores about harvest.  everyone, and i mean everybody only got one case. six four pack . . . and you are telling me that some idiot owner just let whoever buy whatever of it?  they should never be allowed to sell beer again.  i used to hate the 1 or2 bottle or 1 four pack max buy, but atleast other people get to try the beer.  fuck stores that let you buy two four packs.  fuck them.

they went through three cases mr. bitterness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 29, 2012, 11:34:32 am
I wonder if the beer stores will be open when I get off.  I was going to get some yesterday but as they have a stupid law around here about beer stores being closed on sunday i was shut out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 29, 2012, 03:11:36 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 29, 2012, 08:55:52 am
Quote from: walkonby on October 29, 2012, 08:16:11 am
i asked what i think was ten stores about harvest.  everyone, and i mean everybody only got one case. six four pack . . . and you are telling me that some idiot owner just let whoever buy whatever of it?  they should never be allowed to sell beer again.  i used to hate the 1 or2 bottle or 1 four pack max buy, but atleast other people get to try the beer.  fuck stores that let you buy two four packs.  fuck them.

they went through three cases mr. bitterness.

oh . . . never fucking mind then.   ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 29, 2012, 08:28:50 pm
Scratch Beer 76 - 2012 (Special HOPS) > Harvest Ale >Stoudts Pale Ale > KBS 2012>Founders Breakfast Encore: White Russian.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 30, 2012, 11:31:05 am
Double Bastard, Lucky Bastard, and Backwoods Bastard all due out Thurs!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2012, 06:55:04 pm
did any of those bastards kill kenny?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 30, 2012, 07:18:02 pm
(http://static.flickr.com/2349/2372757432_0a1fe3cd08.jpg)

stupid, f-ing pictures
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2012, 11:03:18 pm
walkies - your image didn't post, b/c funnyjunk doesn't allow you to direct link pix.  post a link to the page with the image instead (or download, re-upload to an image hosting site, and use that new link.  no, i don't make the rules)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 31, 2012, 05:15:43 pm
(http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/food/files/2009/02/1563950697_8172648233-265x400.jpg)

anybody ever had this . . . good lord that it some $$ beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2012, 06:48:11 pm
I asked for and received a sip of it and then passed. Way too sweet for my taste.

Quote from: walkonby on October 31, 2012, 05:15:43 pm
(http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/food/files/2009/02/1563950697_8172648233-265x400.jpg)

anybody ever had this . . . good lord that it some $$ beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 02, 2012, 03:27:47 pm
From an amazing co-worker...

(http://i47.tinypic.com/24ys09z.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 02, 2012, 03:31:28 pm
I'm planning on being at the Three Floyds brewpub on 12/23 in what will cap off an amazing beer year for me. Hoping to score some Zombie Dust myself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on November 02, 2012, 04:12:23 pm
Has anyone had the flying dog made with old bay?  Holy salt.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 02, 2012, 04:34:16 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on November 02, 2012, 04:12:23 pm
Has anyone had the flying dog made with old bay?  Holy salt.



No... but that sounds awful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 02, 2012, 10:53:58 pm
trader joe's vintage ale is out.  still by Unibroue, the 2012 looks to be identical to the 2011 - same description, all text is virtually the same, ABV hasn't changed, etc.  they changed the color of the main logo (from gold to silver) and changed a few words in the small print on the back.  maybe they didn't sell all of last year's so they simply re-bottled the leftovers.  last year's edition wasn't particularly impressive, despite this i bought 2 bottles of this year's to do side-by-sides.  "hum, this vertical tells me that the 2012 is equally unremarkable as the 2011..."

one difference: the 2011 has a best-before date of 2016, while the 2012 has a best-before of 2015. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 05, 2012, 02:57:47 pm
Thanks for point out the best-before dates. I have 2009, 2010, and 2011 sitting in the cellar. Not that my wife and I can drink enough to do a vertical of three or four of those, and not that they'ye special enough to invite friends over for a tasting.

Checked the best-before dates, and the date for the 2009 is 9/10/2012. Guess we better drink it.

Sitting next to that was the Stoic, an 11.5% Quad from Deschutes. Deschutes normally puts "drink after" dates on their big beers, encouraging you to cellar them. The put "best-before" dates on their smaller beers. When I bought that beer last August, I assumed that the August 2012 date was a "drink after" date given the high ABV of the beer. But I checked yesterday, and it's a "drink before" date for some odd reason (mistake?). Guess we have another one to drink.


Quote from: sweetcell on November 02, 2012, 10:53:58 pm
trader joe's vintage ale is out.  still by Unibroue, the 2012 looks to be identical to the 2011 - same description, all text is virtually the same, ABV hasn't changed, etc.  they changed the color of the main logo (from gold to silver) and changed a few words in the small print on the back.  maybe they didn't sell all of last year's so they simply re-bottled the leftovers.  last year's edition wasn't particularly impressive, despite this i bought 2 bottles of this year's to do side-by-sides.  "hum, this vertical tells me that the 2012 is equally unremarkable as the 2011..."

one difference: the 2011 has a best-before date of 2016, while the 2012 has a best-before of 2015. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on November 06, 2012, 01:02:08 am
I'd bought a bottle of Ommegang's Art of Darkness Limited Edition beer a month or so ago and saved it for a Halloween party I attended this weekend. Good stuff! 98 on ratebeer.com is way too high, but 88 on beeradvocate.com is too low. The truth is somewhere in between, but I definitely recommend checking it out. I think it's one of the best Ommegang varieties I've tasted.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/ommegang-art-of-darkness/168440/
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/42/78394
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2012, 01:24:48 am
on saturday night the missus and i did a side-by-side of the 2011 & 2012.  nothing too ground-breaking: 2011 had more caramel, smoother, and fruitier yet weaker aroma.  2012 had a root beer-like taste, slight hot alcohol burn, and a nuttier aroma.  interestingly, the taste of the 2012 lingered longer on the tongue.  it's clearly the exact same beer.

Quote from: James Ford on November 05, 2012, 02:57:47 pm
Thanks for point out the best-before dates. I have 2009, 2010, and 2011 sitting in the cellar. Not that my wife and I can drink enough to do a vertical of three or four of those, and not that they'ye special enough to invite friends over for a tasting.

having it as part of a vertical made the beer much more interesting, so i wouldn't discount breaking it out if you have friends over (i wouldn't make it the center-piece of the evening, either).  alternately you could look into trading some of your bottles, especially the older ones, for something you are interested in.

2011 & 2012 are the same beer, but weren't 2010 & prior years brewed by someone other than Unibroue?  wasn't the recipe/style different?  if so, a vertical wouldn't really be possible.

in other news: sharing two bombers of 9% beer after having pre-gamed with a few homebrews will get you weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2012, 10:56:45 am
Don't Vote: Free Beer on Election Day Now Canceled in D.C.

As we feared yesterday, it turns out there will be no free beer at either of Capitol City Brewing Company's locations on Election Day. Citing "strict alcohol laws in the D.C. metro area," the brewpub chain announced that it's D.C. location won't be offering complimentary pints to customers who walk in sporting "I Voted" stickers on November 6.

The restaurant previously cut back the promotion for its Arlington location citing Virginia's severe alcohol regulations that prohibit free-drink specials and online promotion of the term "happy hour," but what most likely did in the stunt was federal law. Both bars will still be running happy-hour specials all day, but you'll have to pay up front.

The Federal Election Commission bars rewarding voting with material goods. The Arlington Young Democrats had this problem in 2010 when the organization offered free brews to voters, and in 2008, Ben & Jerry's attempted to give anyone sporting evidence of their civic participation a free scoop. But after a legal blogger took note of that promotion, the ice-cream chain wound up expanding the promotion to all visitors, turning Election Day into a Free Cone Day.

Still, no free beer is no free beer, and that's a bummer. But it turns out you can't give out free stuff on Election Day to voters, even if your promotion is wholeheartedly non-partisan.

So, because we at DCist assume that every reader is also an active voter, don't expect any free news come November 6. That day?and that day only?we will be erecting a paywall. Election Day coverage shall cost $500. Because democracy, that's why. Please send your cash to Martin and Ben.

But there might be a catch! If Capitol City Brewing Company were to drop the voting requirement, it could give away all the free beer it pleases. Though the restaurant called the D.C. region's alcohol laws strict, we are dealing with multiple jurisdictions here. Virginia might be run by a bunch of prudes, but in D.C., there is nothing stopping a bar from giving a sober person a free beer.

"There is no prohibition in the District?s ABC laws and regulations against an establishment giving away a free beer provided the person is 21 years of age or older and not intoxicated," a spokesman for D.C.'s Alcoholic Beverage Regulation Administration tells DCist in an email.

http://dcist.com/2012/10/no_free_beer_anywhere_on_election_d.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 11:23:05 am
Cap City does give you a free $5 off coupon for your birthday. Or at least they used to. Which in essence means a free beer at happy hour. And you can use it all month long. Which in essence means a free beer five days a week. I used to do that when their Union Station location was open, which was near-ish to my workplace. Well, I didn't go everyday, but i did partake a few times a month.

As far as I know, Unibroue has always done TJ's Vintage Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2012, 11:44:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 11:23:05 am
As far as I know, Unibroue has always done TJ's Vintage Ale.

indeed you are correct.  for some reason i thought that someone other than Unibroue did the annual vintage ales prior to 2011, but a review of BA shows that not to be the case.  also shows that the bottle design and the style (hence likely the recipe) hasn't changed either.  i haz a learning.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 12:21:40 pm
I was under the impression that the recipe does get tweaked every year. Not sure if i go that info from a TJ's sales associate or somewhere online.

At any rate, I know this is not the beer to bring to the in-laws house for Xmas, as it made my mother in law puke when they tried a bottle last year.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 06, 2012, 11:44:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 11:23:05 am
As far as I know, Unibroue has always done TJ's Vintage Ale.

indeed you are correct.  for some reason i thought that someone other than Unibroue did the annual vintage ales prior to 2011, but a review of BA shows that not to be the case.  also shows that the bottle design and the style (hence likely the recipe) hasn't changed either.  i haz a learning.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 06, 2012, 12:38:20 pm
Are there any good Chicago or Illinois brewed beers?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2012, 12:55:12 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 06, 2012, 12:38:20 pm
Are there any good Chicago or Illinois brewed beers?

Goose Island.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 06, 2012, 12:58:46 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 06, 2012, 12:38:20 pm
Are there any good Chicago or Illinois brewed beers?

http://www.3floyds.com

Right down the road from Chicago. Zombie Dust FTW.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 06, 2012, 01:00:01 pm
Cool site...

Some items are extremely overpriced, others are about market price.

http://www.letspour.com

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 01:02:22 pm
Half Acre. And Goose Island (though you can get that around here). Two Brothers is good too.

Even better, Three Floyds is in Munster, IN, which is just across the state line.

There are also a number of breweries whose beers are available in Chicago that aren't here. Dark Horse out of Michigan and SKA from Colorado are a couple that come to mind.


Quote from: hutch on November 06, 2012, 12:38:20 pm
Are there any good Chicago or Illinois brewed beers?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 01:03:15 pm
He asked for Illinois, not Indiana.

 :P
Quote from: Yada on November 06, 2012, 12:58:46 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 06, 2012, 12:38:20 pm
Are there any good Chicago or Illinois brewed beers?

http://www.3floyds.com

Right down the road from Chicago. Zombie Dust FTW.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 06, 2012, 01:09:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 01:03:15 pm
He asked for Illinois, not Indiana.

 :P
Quote from: Yada on November 06, 2012, 12:58:46 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 06, 2012, 12:38:20 pm
Are there any good Chicago or Illinois brewed beers?

http://www.3floyds.com

Right down the road from Chicago. Zombie Dust FTW.

I knew you would be the guy to correct me on this, however, if you're willing to go anywhere in Illinois, I'm sure you'd be willing to travel 25 miles to Indiana.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 06, 2012, 01:13:55 pm
maybe it is just me . . . but i think goose island went from a good beer to mass produced crap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2012, 01:22:48 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 06, 2012, 01:09:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 01:03:15 pm
He asked for Illinois, not Indiana.

 :P
Quote from: Yada on November 06, 2012, 12:58:46 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 06, 2012, 12:38:20 pm
Are there any good Chicago or Illinois brewed beers?

http://www.3floyds.com

Right down the road from Chicago. Zombie Dust FTW.

I knew you would be the guy to correct me on this, however, if you're willing to go anywhere in Illinois, I'm sure you'd be willing to travel 25 miles to Indiana.

it's also a tad douchy to call someone out for suggesting it - immediately after HE suggested it :D

Quote from: walkonby on November 06, 2012, 01:13:55 pm
maybe it is just me . . . but i think goose island went from a good beer to mass produced crap.

the matilda is still solid, then again that strong brett flavor is pretty hard to mess up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 01:23:08 pm
Which ones are you referring to?

Their basic beers have always been pretty meh to me. Their Belgians still seem good to very good (but not as good as the real thing), and BCBS still seems top notch.

Quote from: walkonby on November 06, 2012, 01:13:55 pm
maybe it is just me . . . but i think goose island went from a good beer to mass produced crap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on November 06, 2012, 03:01:51 pm
How odd.. I just read an article about ABInbev and their new CEO, which mentions Goose Island.  The article is meh, but I kept going as I was tired of election coverage and needed a distraction from my distraction from work.

http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/78040-the-plot-to-destroy-americas-beer

To sum up - ABInBev buys something, increases prices and decreases production costs, usually by sacrificing flavor, makes a lot of money and then repeats the process.  Doesn't bode well for Goose Island.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 06, 2012, 04:06:10 pm
ok thanks.. i'll see what they have in Westover if I manage to get out before the results start comin' in..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 06, 2012, 04:11:34 pm
Quote from: imbecile on November 06, 2012, 03:01:51 pm
How odd.. I just read an article about ABInbev and their new CEO, which mentions Goose Island.  The article is meh, but I kept going as I was tired of election coverage and needed a distraction from my distraction from work.

http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/78040-the-plot-to-destroy-americas-beer

To sum up - ABInBev buys something, increases prices and decreases production costs, usually by sacrificing flavor, makes a lot of money and then repeats the process.  Doesn't bode well for Goose Island.

wut a sensationalist headline.  inbev sucks, their beer sucks, and the idea of sending money oversea's for beer bought in america sucks the most.

but breweries are popping up all over, and there's nothing inbev can do to stop it.  they will continue to fail in the US market, and instances like walkie taking note of goose island's shitty production as of late will only perpetuate their failure. we are developing our own beer culture throughout the states, and it has everything to do with locality, fresh ingredients, and innovative beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 10:28:50 am
I'll be drinking an Aphrodisiaque by Dieu De Ciel today for International Stout Day. What will you be drinking?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 08, 2012, 10:48:19 am
Gotta say I was a little let down by the Zombie Dust. I guess I was misinformed but I was expecting it to be up there with Heady Topper, Pliney, and Hop Slam.

I could treat Zombie as a session brew if it was available.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 10:51:53 am
Have you had Alpha King, and if so how does Zombie Dust compare to that?

Quote from: Yada on November 08, 2012, 10:48:19 am
Gotta say I was a little let down by the Zombie Dust. I guess I was misinformed but I was expecting it to be up there with Heady Topper, Pliney, and Hop Slam.

I could treat Zombie as a session brew if it was available.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on November 08, 2012, 11:40:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 10:28:50 am
I'll be drinking an Aphrodisiaque by Dieu De Ciel today for International Stout Day. What will you be drinking?

Péché Mortel - DDC and a leftover 250 anniv. Guinness Stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2012, 11:58:48 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 10:28:50 am
I'll be drinking an Aphrodisiaque by Dieu De Ciel today for International Stout Day. What will you be drinking?

i have a few homebrewed sour stouts left, so i could go with those tonight.  i also have a RR RIS that i've been sitting on for six months but i was planning on aging it a year so i'll have to resist temptation.

i was hoping that Pizza Paradiso was doing something for international stout day, instead they're doing some silly "red ales for the red cross" thingy.  whatever.

i did notice they'll pouring barrel-aged Hof Ten Doormal next wednesday.  might have to look into that. http://www.eatyourpizza.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/events-110112.jpg
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 12:19:33 pm
I was at Paradiso in Georgetown for happy hour last night. Has a Ten Fidy, among other things. Can go wrong with a Ten Fidy.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 08, 2012, 11:58:48 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 10:28:50 am
I'll be drinking an Aphrodisiaque by Dieu De Ciel today for International Stout Day. What will you be drinking?

i have a few homebrewed sour stouts left, so i could go with those tonight.  i also have a RR RIS that i've been sitting on for six months but i was planning on aging it a year so i'll have to resist temptation.

i was hoping that Pizza Paradiso was doing something for international stout day, instead they're doing some silly "red ales for the red cross" thingy.  whatever.

i did notice they'll pouring barrel-aged Hof Ten Doormal next wednesday.  might have to look into that. http://www.eatyourpizza.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/events-110112.jpg
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 08, 2012, 02:46:17 pm
Came across a four-pack of Backwoods Bastard. Looking forward to aging a few of those.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2012, 04:36:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 12:19:33 pm
Can go wrong with a Ten Fidy.

at 10.5% ABV, a lot of things can indeed go wrong ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2012, 04:36:29 pm
<dubbel post>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 05:17:40 pm
Like leaving my credit card at the bar and not realizing it until i got to the Rosslyn Metro station, and having to walk back and get it.

At least I burned some calories.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 08, 2012, 04:36:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 12:19:33 pm
Can go wrong with a Ten Fidy.

at 10.5% ABV, a lot of things can indeed go wrong ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 08, 2012, 05:55:21 pm
2012 Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale has hit the shelves!   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 08:00:49 pm
With the superior Torpedo out there, I never see the reason to buy this.

Quote from: Bagley on November 08, 2012, 05:55:21 pm
2012 Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale has hit the shelves!   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2012, 08:18:34 pm
you can get torpedo all year.  the celebration is much more balanced and is a classic american IPA (chinook, cascade and centennial hops).  i too prefer the citra hops in the torpedo but once a year it's nice to swap out for an old school IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on November 09, 2012, 10:45:58 am
Quote from: Bagley on November 08, 2012, 05:55:21 pm
2012 Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale has hit the shelves!   

Love this stuff. One of my favorite beers for the price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 09, 2012, 12:54:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 30, 2012, 11:31:05 am
Lucky Bastard

"Lukcy Basartd" ;D

picking some up tomorrow
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 09, 2012, 02:32:04 pm
I've had it before but can't quite remember how i felt about it.

I think it's a mix of Double Bastard, which I love, and Arrogant Bastard, which I inexplicably don't like at all.

Victory Yakima Glory is also out now. One of my favorite black ipa's, though it's more of a dark amber. Glad they chose to release it even with their expansion not going on. Several of their good seasonal beers have been on hiatus because of the expansion work.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 09, 2012, 12:54:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 30, 2012, 11:31:05 am
Lucky Bastard

"Lukcy Basartd" ;D

picking some up tomorrow
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on November 09, 2012, 02:35:02 pm
I have never been disappointed by a Victory offering.  Got to taste their harvest ale a few weeks ago that my friend brought from Philly in a growler.  Was fantastic.

anyone had the Paddle beer by New Belgium?  It's not the IPA that we talk about most here, but it's a really nice crisp pilsner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 09, 2012, 03:39:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 09, 2012, 02:32:04 pm
I think it's a mix of Double Bastard, which I love, and Arrogant Bastard, which I inexplicably don't like at all.

yup, it's a blend of Arrogant Bastard, Oaked Arrogant Bastard and Double Bastard.  i've put in an order for the oaked, the double and the lukcy.  i should add some killkenny ;D

any other good seasonals/rarities i should be on the lookout for?  i'm hitting up total wine tomorrow, which i don't do very often anymore.  need to stock up, then bootleg the stuff across the potomac.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 09, 2012, 03:59:25 pm
Not seasonal, but here's what I'm looking for:

I'm watching the Total Wine website to see when they get in Ballast Point Sculpin six packs for the first time. Probably my favorite IPA. Until now, only available at $11 for a 22 oz. Now you get 72 oz for $17. Much better value. I don't think they have it in stock yet.

Saw that a certain Alexandria bottle store is getting in a limited supply of Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break. One of the very best stouts I've ever had. Likely to be pricey. Don't see it on Total Wine inventory list though.

Oh, and Lagunitas Brown Shugga, which is a seasonal, makes a welcome return. Great value at $10/ sixer.
Seasonal release
California- American Strong Ale- 9.9% ABV. An aborted batch of the Old Gnarleywine ended up tasting nearly as good as that they were hoping for, so they bottled it. Sweet sugary aroma. Flavors of sweet brown sugar, candy sugar, some berries and some big caramel sweetness.
Quote from: sweetcell on November 09, 2012, 03:39:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 09, 2012, 02:32:04 pm
I think it's a mix of Double Bastard, which I love, and Arrogant Bastard, which I inexplicably don't like at all.

yup, it's a blend of Arrogant Bastard, Oaked Arrogant Bastard and Double Bastard.  i've put in an order for the oaked, the double and the lukcy.  i should add some killkenny ;D

any other good seasonals/rarities i should be on the lookout for?  i'm hitting up total wine tomorrow, which i don't do very often anymore.  need to stock up, then bootleg the stuff across the potomac.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 11, 2012, 12:49:46 am
apparently i'm not allowed to go to Total Wine alone anymore. (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jAd8mxOZ8L3gWAyyepppWNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on November 11, 2012, 05:42:29 am
That lucky Bastard is one hell of a beer.

Tried Great Lake's Nosferatu imperial red as well. I could dig it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 12, 2012, 01:31:09 pm
Tuesday, November 13: Night of the Bastards at ChurchKey
Arrogant Bastard, Double Bastard, Oaked Arrogant Bastard, and Lukcy Basartd on draft
http://www.dcbeer.com/event/night-bastards-churchkey
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 12, 2012, 04:00:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 11, 2012, 12:49:46 am
apparently i'm not allowed to go to Total Wine alone anymore. (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jAd8mxOZ8L3gWAyyepppWNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0)

i had that picture set to "private", so it would have been unavailable had anyone clicked the link.  i've fixed it so in case anyone does want to see what i'm going on about, here goes again:

apparently i'm not allowed to go to Total Wine alone anymore. (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jAd8mxOZ8L3gWAyyepppWNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on November 12, 2012, 04:44:12 pm
They all look delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 13, 2012, 10:50:40 am
Drank these all weekend in Florida. Two thumbs up.

(http://www.porchdrinking.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jai-Alai.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 13, 2012, 10:19:22 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 09, 2012, 12:54:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 30, 2012, 11:31:05 am
Lucky Bastard

"Lukcy Basartd" ;D

picking some up tomorrow

picked up lukcy basartd today... $8.99 for a bomber. whoof.

any word on when brown shugga is available in the area?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on November 13, 2012, 11:05:09 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 13, 2012, 10:19:22 pm

any word on when brown shugga is available in the area?

Now. Total Wine in McLean had two cases left this past weekend. $9.99 a sixer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 14, 2012, 02:35:39 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on November 13, 2012, 11:05:09 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 13, 2012, 10:19:22 pm

any word on when brown shugga is available in the area?

Now. Total Wine in McLean had two cases left this past weekend. $9.99 a sixer.

9.99... damn that's a good deal.

i snagged some at oakton wine shop for $10.99, along with some backwoods bastard.

they also had zoe by maine beer company for $7.99, but i passed on that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2012, 03:13:51 pm
I still have a four pack of Backwoods Bastard from last year, so I was waffling on whether to get any this year.

I was in Total Wine and this senior citizen gets on his cell phone and asks "What was that beer you picked up last night, Jimbo? I know you said they had a one four pack limit so I thought I'd pick up some more." Oh, ok, I'll go ask them.

With a hunch that he was talking about BB, I trailed him as he tracked down a store employee, thinking I might go ahead and also ask for a four pack myself. He finds an employee and asks "Do you guys have any more of that Backwards Bastard beer?"

The employee proceeds to go behind the counter and produce the last four pack in the store.

Glad I have my four pack from last year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 14, 2012, 08:49:02 pm
got four four packs this year.  had two bottles.  taste good.  will keep rest for awhile.  me happy. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 15, 2012, 05:16:08 pm
Broad Branch Market in Chevy Chase has some and is tasting it tomorrow from 5-7 (along with Founders Breakfast Stout, Hennepin and Port City Porter)

https://twitter.com/broadbranchbeer


Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on November 13, 2012, 11:05:09 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 13, 2012, 10:19:22 pm

any word on when brown shugga is available in the area?

Now. Total Wine in McLean had two cases left this past weekend. $9.99 a sixer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 15, 2012, 06:33:12 pm
dammit, i already have plans on sunday...

Sunday 11/18 at 3PM
Founders 15th Anniversary Party Featuring an Exclusive Keg of Bolt Cutter 15th Anniversary Ale!
ChurchKey

other interesting events at churchkey:

Monday 11/19 at 6PM
Ales from the Dark Side: Volume Two - 20 Strong Dark Rarities on Tap

Saturday 12/1 at 3 PM
Cantillon Zwanze Day 2012, Doors open at noon

Wednesday, 12/12 at 12:12 PM
Stone Vertical Epic Draft Extravaganza: Vintage 2003 through 2012 + Barrel-Aged Vertical Epics on Draft

Wednesday 12/12 at 6PM
Bluejacket & Dogfish Head Collaboration ?L?Interimaire? Debut + A Slew of Rarities from DFH & Bluejacket
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2012, 08:49:48 pm
wow, quite a lineup Monday if you're into stouts and porters.


Ales from the Dark Side: Volume Two - 20 Strong Dark Rarities on Tap
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Monday - November 19, 2012 @ 06:00PM / ends @ 11:00PM
Beer Tasting / Release @ Birch & Barley / ChurchKey
Washington, District of Columbia
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ChurchKey
Monday, November 19th
6 PM

Ales from the Dark Side: Volume Two - 20 Strong Dark Rarities on Tap

We held our very first review of deliciously dark brews back in February of this year, and Beer Director Greg Engert has been recently busy collecting more of these alluring ales for a second installment...

With the weather turning once again, and a Holiday weekend upcoming, he figured now was the perfect time to unleash this collection...

On Monday, November 19th darkness once again descends on ChurchKey.

And it promises to be an eventful evening with no fewer than 20 scarce and salient selections from the dark side on hand. Starting at 6 PM, you'll have the opportunity to taste some fresh kegs of Great Lakes Christmas Ale and Great Lakes Blackout Stout, 4 different roasty treats from De Molen (including the uber-rare Kopi Loewak, an Imperial Stout brewed w/ Vietnamese Civet cat coffee), Norwegian strong ales (like Nogne-O & Terrapin Imperial Rye Porter and Ægir Natt Imperial Porter), 2012 Goose Island Bourbon County Stout, Finnish specialties from Huvila (X-Porter!), Ballast Point Indra Kunindra (with madras curry, caynne pepper, cumin, toasted coconut, and kaffir lime leaf), and some tasty from Denmark (Djævlebryg Pride of Nekron & Mikkeller Beer Hop Breakfast)....don't miss it!

There is no admission for this event and all Ales from the Dark Side will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours.

The Ales from the Dark Side: Volume Two Draft List:
Great Lakes Christmas Ale
Great Lakes Blackout Stout
De Molen Kopi Loewak
De Molen Hel & Verdoemenis
De Molen Hemel & Aarde
De Molen Cease & Desist Imperial Stout
Ballast Point Indra Kunindra
Nogne-O & Terrapin Imperial Rye Porter
Ægir Natt Imperial Porter
Goose Island Bourbon County Stout
Huvila X-Porter
Huvila Artic Circle
Djævlebryg Pride of Nekron
Mikkeller Beer Hop Breakfast
Sierra Nevada Narwhal Imperial Stout
Freigeist Hoppeditz
High & Mighty Fumata Nera
Trois Mousquestaires Porter Baltique
Haandbryggeriet Dark Force Stout
Epic Big Bad Baptist
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 16, 2012, 01:07:30 pm
late request... but heading to NYC for the weekend, and will have some freetime.  any good reccomendations for beer bars? will be around LES most of the time, but will be venturing to BK for brooklyn brewery sometime Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2012, 01:49:18 pm
The Blind Tiger in the West Village is cool, but maybe out of the way from the Lower East Side.

There's a Whole Foods in the LES area that has a great selection of bottles.

Quote from: stevewizzle on November 16, 2012, 01:07:30 pm
late request... but heading to NYC for the weekend, and will have some freetime.  any good reccomendations for beer bars? will be around LES most of the time, but will be venturing to BK for brooklyn brewery sometime Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2012, 02:57:11 pm
i know mostly of places on the upper east side, but nothing mind-blowing.  for a city of the size of NYC, i haven't had much luck finding really great beer bars.  around LES, http://thespringlounge.com/ has decent tap selection.  they have more than what's listed on their website (seasonals, one-offs, etc).  or they used to.

completely jealous that you're hitting the brooklyn brewery.  if you can, be sure to taste their chocolate stout, ale monster and blast!  looks like their brewmaster's reserve at the moment is a black IPA... not a style i'm crazy about, but i'd still give it a try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2012, 04:07:28 pm
Brooklyn Lager is brewed in Utica.
Sixpoint is brewed in PA.


http://brewyorknewyork.com/post/1058444257/when-the-beer-you-drink-isnt-brewed-where-you-think
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 16, 2012, 04:38:14 pm
thanks for the recommendations, you guys.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 16, 2012, 05:35:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 13, 2012, 10:50:40 am
Drank these all weekend in Florida. Two thumbs up.

good stuff
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 19, 2012, 11:12:51 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2012, 02:57:11 pm
if you can, be sure to taste their chocolate stout, ale monster and blast!  looks like their brewmaster's reserve at the moment is a black IPA... not a style i'm crazy about, but i'd still give it a try.

well, the blast was terrific, sorachi ace terrific as always, and the black IPA was solid as well.  they had 'dial m for mild' on draft for there brewmaster's reserve, which was probably their most interesting selection on draft.  not too many beers these days get me confused at what i'm drinking, but i enjoyed trying to figure out what on earth flavor i was tasting at any given moment.  one of the best lightly-hopped sessions i've ever had.

the brewery itself was a great time.  their indoor biergarten-style pub is great.  cheap drafts ($4) and ample space, it made me forget for a second i was in NYC.

didn't check any other beer spots, instead went the whiskey route. meant to swing by spring lounge for a liquid lunch on sunday, but ran out of time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 19, 2012, 07:15:13 pm
steve, glad to hear your trip to the Blyn brewery was a success.  session beers are the new cool thing it seems, but i've never come across one that has really impressed me.  i'd rather slowly sip a thick syrup that down gallons of lighter stuff... then again, ask me that in august and i might change my mind ;D

definitely need to make my way there next time i'm in NYC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 20, 2012, 09:06:23 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 19, 2012, 07:15:13 pm
steve, glad to hear your trip to the Blyn brewery was a success.  session beers are the new cool thing it seems, but i've never come across one that has really impressed me.  i'd rather slowly sip a thick syrup that down gallons of lighter stuff... then again, ask me that in august and i might change my mind ;D

definitely need to make my way there next time i'm in NYC.

highly recommend it. middle of williamsburg, lots of space, can order pizza and bring cards/games/etc. 

and yeah, session beers. the new hop bomb.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 10:22:08 am

http://beerpulse.com/2012/11/westvleteren-xii-hits-stores-in-mid-december-exclusive-through-twm-in-some-states/


Westvleteren XII hits stores in mid-December, exclusive through TW&M in some states
 Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:26 pm by Adam Nason   

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(Belchertown, MA) ? Months of rumors and speculation have finally come to a head with the first report on the Westvleteren XII nationwide release coming out on Monday afternoon.

According to Jacksonville.com:

Total Wine & More at St. Johns Town Center is getting some, and will put it on sale ? first-come, first-served ? on Dec. 12 for $84.99 a six-pack, including two glasses. There?s a limit of one six-pack per customer. Reservations won?t be taken, you have to show up to purchase the beer. The store opens at 9 a.m. Dec. 12.

BeerPulse has also learned that December 12th is the launch date for all Total Wine & More locations nationwide. Total Wine & More will be the exclusive carrier in states in which that chain has locations established.

Total Wine & More operates in the following states: New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, California and Washington. BeerPulse has not yet confirmed availability in all of these states.

As for other states, details are still murky.

Whole Foods Louisiana tweeted on Monday that it expects to release the beer in mid-December. Meanwhile, it appears that Craft Beer Cellar in Massachusetts will also be selling it via lottery.

In May June, Shelton Brothers held The Festival in Worcester, Massachusetts, and conducted an exclusive limited release through a nearby shop, Julio?s Liquors. It also sold for the suggested retail price of $84.99 there.

A lot has change since news about the U.S. originally broke last year. The original target for a nationwide release was this past April. Manneken Brussels Imports was also supposed to be handling importing duties along with Shelton Brothers but is no longer part of the arrangement.

The brewers at the Sint-Sixtus Abbey in Westvleteren have taken on extra shifts in order to produce more of the beer for this one-time offering. The additional production and first-time exportation are being used as a way to raise money for restoration of the abbey.

Shelton Brothers and Total Wine & More did not reply to a request for comment by Monday night when this story was published.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 20, 2012, 11:48:32 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 15, 2012, 06:33:12 pm
Monday 11/19 at 6PM
Ales from the Dark Side: Volume Two - 20 Strong Dark Rarities on Tap

tried making it out to this last night, but got stuck with workmates at the big hunt.  on the upside, the BH had on tap one of the beers i was most excited to try at the churchkey event: goose island's bourbon street stout.  woa.  that stuff was intense, not something you can have 2 of.  the taste of alcohol is quite pronounced (to be expected at 15% abv).  DC Brau "Ghoul?s Night Out" is to be avoided - too sweet, not sure how they can call that a quad.  deal of the day: a pint of Brown Shugga for $7.  really enjoyed that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 20, 2012, 11:50:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 10:22:08 am
$84.99 a six-pack

great... now i gotta find someone to go in on a 6 pack with me?!? ::)

that price is insulting.  first, the monks said they would never sell overseas because that would require ramping up production "to an unsustainable level", that quality would be compromised during transportation, and that they "brew to live, not live to brew".  now they need cash, so it's OK to fleece the american public?  westie isn't $14/bottle in belgium.

for $85 you can get a lot of other mind-blowing quads.  gawd i'm starting to sound like james ford.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 12:13:58 pm
I paid 7.75 Euro for a single bottle at a bottle store in Bruges. That's about $10, right? I avoided any kind of shipping or import fees by stuffing it in my suitcase, but I don't think the US retailers/distributors have that option.

And beyond Rochefort 10 and St Bernardus 12, what other quads are in the same league, or "mind blowing"?


Quote from: sweetcell on November 20, 2012, 11:50:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 10:22:08 am
$84.99 a six-pack

great... now i gotta find someone to go in on a 6 pack with me?!? ::)

that price is insulting.  first, the monks said they would never sell overseas because that would require ramping up production "to an unsustainable level", that quality would be compromised during transportation, and that they "brew to live, not live to brew".  now they need cash, so it's OK to fleece the american public?  westie isn't $14/bottle in belgium.

for $85 you can get a lot of other mind-blowing quads.  gawd i'm starting to sound like james ford.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 01:27:18 pm
$24 for one 26 oz bottle of Founders Bolt Cutter which you'd have to drink at one sitting.

vs.

$85 for six twelve ounce bottles ozs of Westy 12 plus two glasses, so six sittings.


I won't be buying either of them, but i'd choose the Westy option if i had to!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 20, 2012, 03:57:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 12:13:58 pm
I paid 7.75 Euro for a single bottle at a bottle store in Bruges. That's about $10, right? I avoided any kind of shipping or import fees by stuffing it in my suitcase, but I don't think the US retailers/distributors have that option.

And beyond Rochefort 10 and St Bernardus 12, what other quads are in the same league, or "mind blowing"?

i might be wrong here, but i thought westies weren't allowed to be re-sold... so if i'm right, that store in bruges is charging a lot because it's selling something that it shouldn't be.  but i might have outdated information.

pannepot and val-dieu grand cru can add to that list, IMO.

Quote from: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 01:27:18 pm
$24 for one 26 oz bottle of Founders Bolt Cutter which you'd have to drink at one sitting.

vs.

$85 for six twelve ounce bottles ozs of Westy 12 plus two glasses, so six sittings.


I won't be buying either of them, but i'd choose the Westy option if i had to!

well that's a silly example, since $26 for bolt cutter is a ridiculous price too.  dom perignon is $300 a bottle, making the upcoming westvleteren release a bargain!

in the end i'd pay $14 for one bottle because i'd really like to try it once, but i'm not going to lock up $85 in a 6-pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 20, 2012, 06:08:20 pm
I feel like drinking 100 beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on November 20, 2012, 07:54:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 20, 2012, 06:08:20 pm
I feel like drinking 100 beers.

"If one of those bottles should happen to fall;
99 bottles of beer on the wall."

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VhMUEZQ5xrQ/TdGZJZhXVVI/AAAAAAAAFMM/BBlBFcw7KPA/s1600/beer.JPG)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 08:10:16 pm
Whole Foods in Fairfax is holding a "raffle" for the privilege of paying $190 for their one bottle on Sam Adams 10 Anniversary Utopia. Take that, Westy 12.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 21, 2012, 10:57:03 am
that backwoods bastard is tasty, but really nothing special right now.  james ford, have you cracked into your aged bb?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 21, 2012, 11:17:27 am
I drank the last of my 2010 earlier this year, haven't cracked the 2011 yet.

I agree with your assessment of BB. Still a good enough value and tasty enough to grab a four pack of each year.

Quote from: stevewizzle on November 21, 2012, 10:57:03 am
that backwoods bastard is tasty, but really nothing special right now.  james ford, have you cracked into your aged bb?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 21, 2012, 11:18:11 am
you want nothing special?  

some of this years founders harvest was not up to snuff, imo.

last year was better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 21, 2012, 11:53:05 am
i totally skipped on harvest ale this year.  there beers do seem to have more variance from year-to-year than other breweries do. either that, or my taste-preference changes too often.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 22, 2012, 03:27:26 pm
You know it's a banner beer day at your Whole Foods when they have Goose Island BCBS, Firestone Walker Double Jack, Dupont Avec les bons Vouex, Backwoods Bastard, and Ten Fidy on tap at the same time. And then when the first two run out, they have Delirium Noel and Dogfish Old School 2010 ready as replacements.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 27, 2012, 02:01:59 pm
In the last few weeks, I've picked up a four-pack of Backwoods Bastard, BCS, and a bottle of Mikkeller Beer Hop Breakfast. Also had to get a four-pack of Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout, was only $7.99 and it's a terrific stout. BCS is heavenly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 27, 2012, 02:45:59 pm
Has anybody picked up a fresh sixer of Victory Yakima Glory? If so, what was the "enjoy by" date?

I went to three different stores and all had "new" sixers with the enjoy by date of 11/30/12. The enjoy by date is normally a year out.

One of the stores (Ricks) was sending theirs back. It remains on the shelf for sale at other two stores.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 27, 2012, 03:37:28 pm
$12.99 for a six-pack of DC Brau Citizen at Schneiders - is this the typical price?  seems way high.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on November 27, 2012, 04:40:54 pm
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on November 27, 2012, 03:37:28 pm
$12.99 for a six-pack of DC Brau Citizen at Schneiders - is this the typical price?  seems way high.

Schneiders usually shades to the high side on beer, so I imagine that is fairly close to the going rate around town, but not significantly higher.  I've only ever bought sixers of DC Brau straight from the brewery on Saturdays and it's 10 bucks there, so you figure a few markups get you to $12.99 pretty quick.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 27, 2012, 05:03:05 pm
i really should have gone to dc brau over the weekend.  mainly to stock up on $10 six-packs (most stores they are $11, fwiw), and they had that barrel-aged and soured burial at sea english mild special release.  anybody ever try that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 27, 2012, 05:26:06 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 06, 2012, 04:11:34 pm
Quote from: imbecile on November 06, 2012, 03:01:51 pm
How odd.. I just read an article about ABInbev and their new CEO, which mentions Goose Island.  The article is meh, but I kept going as I was tired of election coverage and needed a distraction from my distraction from work.

http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/78040-the-plot-to-destroy-americas-beer

To sum up - ABInBev buys something, increases prices and decreases production costs, usually by sacrificing flavor, makes a lot of money and then repeats the process.  Doesn't bode well for Goose Island.

wut a sensationalist headline.  inbev sucks, their beer sucks, and the idea of sending money oversea's for beer bought in america sucks the most.

but breweries are popping up all over, and there's nothing inbev can do to stop it.  they will continue to fail in the US market, and instances like walkie taking note of goose island's shitty production as of late will only perpetuate their failure. we are developing our own beer culture throughout the states, and it has everything to do with locality, fresh ingredients, and innovative beers.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/stew/chi-new-brewery-john-laffler-20121127,0,6788177.story

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-11-16/news/chi-john-hall-to-leave-goose-island-as-ceo-20121115_1_anheuser-busch-urban-wheat-ale-goose-island

my take: the non-compete and/or retention bonus dates just hit, so the big wigs are taking the money and running.  my prediction is that goose island will continue to slide downhill.  oh well, it was nice while it lasted.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 27, 2012, 06:12:46 pm
i just drink beer because it tastes good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 27, 2012, 10:43:21 pm
Quote
wut a sensationalist headline.  inbev sucks, their beer sucks, and the idea of sending money oversea's for beer bought in america sucks the most.


the american story in a nutshell:  nativist racists marketed prohibition as a way to address the german threat at home during WWI, then a century later these same "german" breweries are so goddamn american that the country gets all up in arms when they're sold to international conglomerates.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 29, 2012, 11:57:57 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 12:13:58 pm
I paid 7.75 Euro for a single bottle at a bottle store in Bruges. That's about $10, right?

FYI according to page 19 of the May/June'09 issue of Zymurgy (magazine of the American Homebrewers Association, which I just joined), when you buy a case of Westvleteren directly from the abbey a bottle comes out to about $2 (36 euro, or about $48, for a case of 24).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 01:10:22 pm
How much does a daily car rental cost to get you out the abbey? Because public transportation isn't getting you there.


Quote from: sweetcell on November 29, 2012, 11:57:57 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 12:13:58 pm
I paid 7.75 Euro for a single bottle at a bottle store in Bruges. That's about $10, right?

FYI according to page 19 of the May/June'09 issue of Zymurgy (magazine of the American Homebrewers Association, which I just joined), when you buy a case of Westvleteren directly from the abbey a bottle comes out to about $2 (36 euro, or about $48, for a case of 24).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 29, 2012, 01:53:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 01:10:22 pm
How much does a daily car rental cost to get you out the abbey? Because public transportation isn't getting you there.

according to the article, you can in fact get there by train and bicycle.  obviously you won't be carrying much beer back with you...

my point was that the mark-up on what you paid was abnormally high.  it's damn expensive to ship beer from anywhere, but you don't get a 3 to 5 time markup like that. 

mind you, if i was in that bottle shop i would have gladly paid $10 for a bottle ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 29, 2012, 02:06:05 pm
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on November 27, 2012, 10:43:21 pm
Quote
wut a sensationalist headline.  inbev sucks, their beer sucks, and the idea of sending money oversea's for beer bought in america sucks the most.


the american story in a nutshell:  nativist racists marketed prohibition as a way to address the german threat at home during WWI, then a century later these same "german" breweries are so goddamn american that the country gets all up in arms when they're sold to international conglomerates.

why do you hate freedom
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 02:40:35 pm
And how much would a round trip train ticket and a bike rental cost? Multiply that by the three people we had in our party, and factor in a four year old riding a bike on country roads might have been a wee bit tough going.  ;)


Quote from: sweetcell on November 29, 2012, 01:53:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 01:10:22 pm
How much does a daily car rental cost to get you out the abbey? Because public transportation isn't getting you there.

according to the article, you can in fact get there by train and bicycle.  obviously you won't be carrying much beer back with you...

my point was that the mark-up on what you paid was abnormally high.  it's damn expensive to ship beer from anywhere, but you don't get a 3 to 5 time markup like that. 

mind you, if i was in that bottle shop i would have gladly paid $10 for a bottle ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 02:59:18 pm
Last night finished the last of the 18 Heady Toppers we bought three months ago at the brewery. Wasn't nearly as good as the first, but still held up remarkably well for the three month mark.

Sigh. I guess I'm stuck going back to drinking Sculpin and Ruination for my hop fix. At least until we make the trip to Chicago, Ohio, and Indiana and bring home some Zombie Dust, Alpha King, Daisy Cutter, White Rajah, Dreadnaught, Headhunter, and whatever else we can drink in two or three months, while still saving room for the Hopslam arrival.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 29, 2012, 03:13:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 02:59:18 pm
Sigh. I guess I'm stuck going back to drinking Sculpin and Ruination for my hop fix. At least until we make the trip to Chicago, Ohio, and Indiana and bring home some Zombie Dust, Alpha King, Daisy Cutter, White Rajah, Dreadnaught, Headhunter, and whatever else we can drink in two or three months, while still saving room for the Hopslam arrival.

don't forget to also save some room in the car for that cute kid of yours ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 04:53:42 pm
She can ride on the roof with the dog. Mitt style in subfreezing temps for 13 hours.

Priorities, man.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 29, 2012, 03:13:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 02:59:18 pm
Sigh. I guess I'm stuck going back to drinking Sculpin and Ruination for my hop fix. At least until we make the trip to Chicago, Ohio, and Indiana and bring home some Zombie Dust, Alpha King, Daisy Cutter, White Rajah, Dreadnaught, Headhunter, and whatever else we can drink in two or three months, while still saving room for the Hopslam arrival.

don't forget to also save some room in the car for that cute kid of yours ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on November 29, 2012, 05:51:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 02:59:18 pm
Last night finished the last of the 18 Heady Toppers we bought three months ago at the brewery. Wasn't nearly as good as the first, but still held up remarkably well for the three month mark.

Sigh. I guess I'm stuck going back to drinking Sculpin and Ruination for my hop fix. At least until we make the trip to Chicago, Ohio, and Indiana and bring home some Zombie Dust, Alpha King, Daisy Cutter, White Rajah, Dreadnaught, Headhunter, and whatever else we can drink in two or three months, while still saving room for the Hopslam arrival.

Soo.. Ballast  Point has arrived?  I still haven't ran across any, but wasn't actively looking until I heard some confirmation that it was starting to show up in stores.  I'm excited now, been looking forward to this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 09:58:07 pm
Saw Sculpin and Big Eye sixers at Foggy Bottom Whole Foods yesterday. Saw Big Eye and Pale Ale sixers at P St Whole Foods today. I recommend the Sculpin. And the six pack was $3 cheaper (at $14.99) than the VA Whole Foods prices.

FYI, VA has been getting Ballast Point fora couple of years now, draft, bombers, and sixers. Though we just started getting the Sculpin sixers.

Also just has Victory at Sea for the first time on draft tonight. They have it at Smoke and Barrel and Meridian Pint.
That shit was fanfuckingtastic.


Quote from: imbecile on November 29, 2012, 05:51:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 02:59:18 pm
Last night finished the last of the 18 Heady Toppers we bought three months ago at the brewery. Wasn't nearly as good as the first, but still held up remarkably well for the three month mark.

Sigh. I guess I'm stuck going back to drinking Sculpin and Ruination for my hop fix. At least until we make the trip to Chicago, Ohio, and Indiana and bring home some Zombie Dust, Alpha King, Daisy Cutter, White Rajah, Dreadnaught, Headhunter, and whatever else we can drink in two or three months, while still saving room for the Hopslam arrival.

Soo.. Ballast  Point has arrived?  I still haven't ran across any, but wasn't actively looking until I heard some confirmation that it was starting to show up in stores.  I'm excited now, been looking forward to this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 10:02:25 pm
And speaking of P Street Whole Foods, they had a bunch of various singles from Maine Beer Company on the shelves tonight.

I grabbed a (16.9 ox bottle of) Lunch and didn't really register what the price was.I asked the cashier to do a price check and it wasn't in the system. She asked me how much it was (but i just asked you for a price check, how would i know?)...so it was basically name my price...did I saw $2 like a Westy 12 cost at the abbey? Did I say $3 like a Heady Topper cost at the brewery? No, like a retard I said "Oh, I think it said $6.99", which is what i think it goes for in New England.

So I'm a proud owner of an overpriced bottle of Lunch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 29, 2012, 10:18:12 pm
woa, need to hit up that WF tomorrow.  is $6.99 the correct price?  any idea how fresh the beer is?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 29, 2012, 10:51:43 pm
I think it was actually 7.99. I shaved a dollar off. They had Peeper, Mo, and Mean Tom as well.

Bottling date is 11/18/12 on the Lunch.


Quote from: sweetcell on November 29, 2012, 10:18:12 pm
woa, need to hit up that WF tomorrow.  is $6.99 the correct price?  any idea how fresh the beer is?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 30, 2012, 09:12:18 am
No Westy 12 in VA, according to Rick's newsletter.

No.  Apparently, Shelton Brothers never went and got label approval in the Commonwealth of Virginia, meaning that it is illegal to sell here.  Perfect.  This is just about the point where I had my own ideas on the above listed points.  I'll cut myself of there.  Point being, you will not be seeing Westvleteren 12 on our shelves, or any shelves, in Virginia.  If you really want it, you're gonna have to trek to another state and battle others in the venue known as the Wal-Mart of beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 30, 2012, 09:26:40 am
had peeper.

thought neat bottle . . . ok beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 30, 2012, 09:32:30 am
Zoe was really good. But not as good as Nugget Nectar, which is about half the price per ounce for the same style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 30, 2012, 11:06:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 30, 2012, 09:32:30 am
half the price per ounce for the same style

This is always good input.  Wish we had a "master list" of beers that met this criteria.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on December 01, 2012, 05:16:57 pm
I know some folks like to knock Goose Island for being a pawn for Inbev, but I tried the Bourbon County stout and loved it. It tasted like chocolate pancakes!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 01, 2012, 06:44:39 pm
i knocked on some of that there goose island . . . but mister ford was correct; i was basing my opinion on mass produced intakes such as honkers ale and the sort.  i had sofie, i do believe it was called, not that long ago and it was delightful!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 02, 2012, 02:00:26 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 30, 2012, 09:32:30 am
Zoe was really good. But not as good as Nugget Nectar, which is about half the price per ounce for the same style.

nugget nectar has become a sort of golden standard of beers for me. it's relatively cheap, well-hopped, good color/aroma, and even though it's seasonal, it's readily available and incredible fresh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on December 03, 2012, 03:11:13 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on December 01, 2012, 05:16:57 pm
I know some folks like to knock Goose Island for being a pawn for Inbev, but I tried the Bourbon County stout and loved it. It tasted like chocolate pancakes!
You should try Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout, if you haven't before. 88 on BeerAdvocate, 98 on RateBeer. The truth, as usual, is somewhere between.

http://www.stbcbeer.com/black-water/creme-brulee-beer-page/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 03, 2012, 03:47:47 pm
You do realize that the numerical score given by Ratebeer and the numerial score given by Beer Advocate are two entirely different things, right?

Ratebeer actually gives two scores. The first is the percentile compared to all other beers, the second is the percentile within style. For example, a beer with a score of 65/64 would be above 65% of all beers and 64% of beers within the style. This would probably be indicative od a beer that is pretty decent, though not earth shattering.

A beer scoring a 65 on Beer Advocate would actually be considered "poor" and a beer that one should "avoid".

http://beeradvocate.com/help/index?topic=ratings


And Creme Brule scores a 98/73 on ratebeer, and 88 on beer advocate. Those scores are actually pretty comparable. Although as I said the numbers have completely different meanings.

Anyway, sorry, I'm a stats geek and a beer geek.




 
Quote from: Darth Ed on December 03, 2012, 03:11:13 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on December 01, 2012, 05:16:57 pm
I know some folks like to knock Goose Island for being a pawn for Inbev, but I tried the Bourbon County stout and loved it. It tasted like chocolate pancakes!
You should try Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout, if you haven't before. 88 on BeerAdvocate, 98 on RateBeer. The truth, as usual, is somewhere between.

http://www.stbcbeer.com/black-water/creme-brulee-beer-page/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on December 03, 2012, 04:35:46 pm
Thanks for the info. I don't usually look at Ratebeer, but it's good to know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 03, 2012, 04:50:59 pm
I'm also more of a Beer Advocate person myself (prefer the forums, website appearance, etc), but the percentiles that Ratebeer uses makes more numerical sense, imo.

There's also stories all over the web about what nazis the Alstrom brothers of Beer Advocate are when it comes to running their website. The one time I posted in their forums, I posted in Mid-Atlantic, name dropped Alexandria, VA in the post, and within minutes Herr Alstrom had moved my post to the South-Atlantic forum. Guess he's not much of a geography guy.



Quote from: Darth Ed on December 03, 2012, 04:35:46 pm
Thanks for the info. I don't usually look at Ratebeer, but it's good to know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on December 04, 2012, 06:23:37 am
I think I did try that Creme brulee stout and didn't like it. My friends did. I think I am just way too picky haha.

I been on a sour beer kick so I tired 2 more. Bacchus was the first one. It was very mild and kinda floated on my tongue. The other was a lambic by the same brewery but I cannot remember what it was called. Man, oh man was that one good. Super fizzy and sour. Noticed they were imported by a company in Sterling VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on December 04, 2012, 07:45:25 am
Bought a bottle of that Creme Brulee Stout last winter and was really looking forward to drinking it because it sounded like a perfect fit for me. I tend to love sweet beers. Really like creme brulees. Often like cream, caramel and vanilla based foods. My favorite coffees tend to be French Vanilla or some sort of a vanilla nut flavored. Unfortunately, when I drank that beer, I found it disgusting to the point that it was turning my stomach. Something about the flavorings were just way too intense and over-powering and not in a good way. It also tasted very artificial to me which was I think the thing that got my stomach rolling. What a dissappointment.

Lately, the beer that I've enjoyed the most is Burley Oak's Barreled (http://burleyoak.com/the-beers.cfm). I'd recommend it to those who like Guinness and/or Newcastle Brown Ale because it has that really nice deep dark brown sweet taste without being overdone. Wouldn't go as far as saying it's like mixing the two but it would tend to appeal to those who like these beers. It's thinner and lighter tasting than Guinness but richer and tastier than Newcastle. The downside is that about the only way to get your hands on this stuff is to go straight to the brewery. You can buy growlers of it but those things are too big for my refrigerator shelves and I just can't drink that much beer in that short of time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on December 04, 2012, 01:15:34 pm
Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout is released in June, according to their website. if you bought it in the winter, i suspect it was sitting on the shelf for a long time. Also, I've had it both ways, and it tastes far better on draft in my experience. It's supposedly flavored with real creme brulee, but I do wonder how that is possible. The flavor is very intense, and it certainly may not be for everyone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 04, 2012, 11:11:09 pm
Cantillon at Walgreens?

And look at the other beers sold at Walgreens.

http://www.beermenus.com/places/5877-walgreens-greektown
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on December 04, 2012, 11:40:31 pm
Quote from: Darth Ed on December 04, 2012, 01:15:34 pm
Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout is released in June, according to their website. if you bought it in the winter, i suspect it was sitting on the shelf for a long time. Also, I've had it both ways, and it tastes far better on draft in my experience. It's supposedly flavored with real creme brulee, but I do wonder how that is possible. The flavor is very intense, and it certainly may not be for everyone.

No, don't think it was the aging that turned me off. If there was a difference due to age, it was only minimal. It was that very heavy artificalness that I just couldn't stomach. Sort of like how I can't stand those flavored coffee creamers. They all sound wonderful and I would usually love all those combinations when done other ways but every single one of them that I've tried were disgustingly artificial tasting. The creme brulee beer though was much, much more intense and, though I tried, I just couldn't stomach the stuff. On tap may be different but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2012, 10:49:18 am
putting on my over-analytical hat:

Quote from: Jaguar on December 04, 2012, 11:40:31 pm
If there was a difference due to age, it was only minimal.

how do you know that?  have you had it both fresh and aged?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 05, 2012, 11:09:18 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 04, 2012, 11:11:09 pm
Cantillon at Walgreens?

And look at the other beers sold at Walgreens.

http://www.beermenus.com/places/5877-walgreens-greektown

i hate walgreens.  they make products seem cheap.  hooker cheap.  i feel dirty when i buy stuff there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on December 05, 2012, 11:16:47 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 05, 2012, 10:49:18 am
putting on my over-analytical hat:

Quote from: Jaguar on December 04, 2012, 11:40:31 pm
If there was a difference due to age, it was only minimal.

how do you know that?  have you had it both fresh and aged?

I'd say that it was a different hat which is well worn out.

Believe me, my taste buds aren't that whacked out. It was the ingredients, not the aging. Darth Ed knows what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on December 06, 2012, 12:03:43 am
Quote from: Jaguar on December 05, 2012, 11:16:47 pm
Believe me, my taste buds aren't that whacked out. It was the ingredients, not the aging. Darth Ed knows what I'm talking about.
Well, let's just say that I disagree. The two times I've had it on tap, I thought it was quite a marvelous beer, and I wouldn't hesitate to order it again and recommend it to others, especially someone who liked a beer that tasted like chocolate pancakes. Yes, the flavors are very intense, but they're supposedly completely natural, so I don't really understand this artificiality you claim you tasted. That's why I suggested that it perhaps tasted funky because it was well (maybe 6 months) past its "best by" date.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 06, 2012, 10:11:13 am
How do you feel about Southern Tier Choklat, Mokah, and Jahva?


Quote from: Darth Ed on December 06, 2012, 12:03:43 am
Quote from: Jaguar on December 05, 2012, 11:16:47 pm
Believe me, my taste buds aren't that whacked out. It was the ingredients, not the aging. Darth Ed knows what I'm talking about.
Well, let's just say that I disagree. The two times I've had it on tap, I thought it was quite a marvelous beer, and I wouldn't hesitate to order it again and recommend it to others, especially someone who liked a beer that tasted like chocolate pancakes. Yes, the flavors are very intense, but they're supposedly completely natural, so I don't really understand this artificiality you claim you tasted. That's why I suggested that it perhaps tasted funky because it was well (maybe 6 months) past its "best by" date.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 06, 2012, 10:33:50 am
chiming in.

creme brulee on tap has been one of my favorite beers i've ever encountered.

i would not trust it in a bottle, especially if it isn't only a few weeks old.  vanilla bean does not hold well in any beer, that's why you don't see many vanilla-style beers. short shelf life.

i dig choklat too, and enjoy ST's unique take on imperial stouts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 06, 2012, 10:47:47 am
Give a Little, Get a Little: ChurchKey's Annual Holiday Ale Tap Takeover & Canned Food Drive
50 Seasonal Drafts Plus 10% Off To Those Who Donate
 
For the second consecutive year, ChurchKey is teaming up with Martha's Table to get into the holiday spirit. Join us this Monday from 4 until 9, bring a canned good or make a cash donation and you will receive 10% off of all beer and food that evening. And what an evening we have in store - a rollicking holiday party replete with all 50 draft lines dedicated to the finest seasonal brews. So come on out, share the joy, spread the love and sample the spirits!
 
The best American, Belgian and English winter ales will sit side-by-side with some incredible cold-weather craft rarities sourced from Switzerland, France, Germany and Denmark. Some highlights include our final keg of Great Lakes Christmas, eight different Ridgeway holiday brews from England (think Bad/Very Bad/Seriously Bad/Criminally Bad Elf and more), four vintages of Gouden Carolus Noel ('09, '10, '11, '12), and a keg of the rare Mother Earth Silent Night. American craft classics like Schlafly Christmas, Tröegs Mad Elf, will also be featured along with local seasonal brews like 3 Stars (Winter Madness) and Mad Fox (Festivus), and even from our dear friend Mikkeller (From-To-Via, Santa's Little Helper and Hoppy Lovin' Christmas). The full draft list can be found here: http://www.dcbeer.com/event/churchkey-holiday-tasting-benefit-marthas-table

There is no admission charge for the event and all 50 Holiday Drafts will be available beginning at 4PM and priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours.

_______________________________

speaking of mad elf, i had some the other night.  the cherry + caramel notes were interesting but i wouldn't order a second one.  there was something syrupy about it that didn't work for me.  my mind was blown when i saw that it was 11%.  it did not taste like that big a beer, at all.  hum... sounds like a good date drink ;D

also tried brooklyn's chocolate stout.  a solid RIS and very decently priced but it's not going to displace any of my favorite russians.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on December 06, 2012, 12:12:22 pm
Quote from: Darth Ed on December 04, 2012, 01:15:34 pm
Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout is released in June, according to their website. if you bought it in the winter, i suspect it was sitting on the shelf for a long time. Also, I've had it both ways, and it tastes far better on draft in my experience. It's supposedly flavored with real creme brulee, but I do wonder how that is possible. The flavor is very intense, and it certainly may not be for everyone.

So I should probably toss the bottle I've had for almost a year now, eh?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on December 06, 2012, 12:21:22 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on December 06, 2012, 12:12:22 pm
Quote from: Darth Ed on December 04, 2012, 01:15:34 pm
Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout is released in June, according to their website. if you bought it in the winter, i suspect it was sitting on the shelf for a long time. Also, I've had it both ways, and it tastes far better on draft in my experience. It's supposedly flavored with real creme brulee, but I do wonder how that is possible. The flavor is very intense, and it certainly may not be for everyone.

So I should probably toss the bottle I've had for almost a year now, eh?

Or go get a fresh one.. do a side by side and settle this issue for us all.

Edit - I missed the part about it being release in June (However, I did see it at the Perfect Pour yesterday.. did not check dates on the bottles though), so a side by side of two potentially old bottles wouldn't help us.  Oops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 06, 2012, 01:12:36 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on December 06, 2012, 12:12:22 pm
So I should probably toss the bottle I've had for almost a year now, eh?

i certainly wouldn't.  give it a try and let us know what it tastes like.  at worse the flavors will have faded.  they don't magically become gross.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 06, 2012, 01:36:11 pm
Quote from: imbecile on December 06, 2012, 12:21:22 pm
Edit - I missed the part about it being release in June (However, I did see it at the Perfect Pour yesterday.. did not check dates on the bottles though), so a side by side of two potentially old bottles wouldn't help us.  Oops.

it maddens me that the beer is released in june.  it seems like such a perfect winter brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 06, 2012, 02:25:39 pm
Agree with Sweetcell's comments on Brooklyn BCS and Mad Elf.

I've had and enjoyed the Choklat on draft. Still though it seems like there was something artificial about the taste, but I didn't mind that.

One beer that did taste completely nasty after a year was Dogfish Punkin Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on December 06, 2012, 03:02:37 pm
I didn't realize it but Pabst Brewing Company doesn't brew up beer.  They buy up breweries around the country and shut them down and just put some swill made by miller into their cans. 

Also they pay people to go into hipster bars and restaurants around the country and for them to drink PBR.  I guess in Maryland that would be National Bohemian. 

This all upsets me. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 06, 2012, 03:30:27 pm
Why do you find this upsetting?

Quote from: atomicfront on December 06, 2012, 03:02:37 pm
I didn't realize it but Pabst Brewing Company doesn't brew up beer.  They buy up breweries around the country and shut them down and just put some swill made by miller into their cans. 

Also they pay people to go into hipster bars and restaurants around the country and for them to drink PBR.  I guess in Maryland that would be National Bohemian. 

This all upsets me. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 07, 2012, 04:24:23 pm
just found a nice woman stocking her shelves with dogfish head 120

i only got four.  wanted more, but my bill was already over one hundred, so i stopped.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 07, 2012, 04:33:07 pm
Does anybody have a "best beers of 2012" list? I know my list is topped by Heady Topper.

I've been to an incredible number of breweries and brewpubs in 2012. When I get around to it, I'm going to type out the list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 07, 2012, 04:36:33 pm
i asked that same nice lady, so "what's up with all of these beers in cans now?"  i hate beers in cans, but i did not tell her that.  she really did not have an answer, wondering that herself for awhile she confided.  she thought it more than likely was the not having to worry about sunlight hitting the beverage, but then you can't store beer in cans.  i don't like it.  i like bottles.  it tastes better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 07, 2012, 08:28:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 07, 2012, 04:33:07 pm
Does anybody have a "best beers of 2012" list? I know my list is topped by Heady Topper.

I've been to an incredible number of breweries and brewpubs in 2012. When I get around to it, I'm going to type out the list.

at first i was like, that would be dumb.  then, which is now, i am like yeah that is awesome!  of course, i have had a stone ruination , a founder's old curmugeon, and a i think i started off with one of those shitty red stripes things.  god, how did i ever think that beer was good, i'll never know.  i'm a little feeling good, and a list of my favourite beers, oh shit, i spelled it the english way, would be awesome.  but let's keep it in here.  ooh, ooh.  i'm all excited now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on December 10, 2012, 09:59:49 am
Dogfish Head expansion moves forward (http://capegazette.villagesoup.com/p/dogfish-head-expansion-moves-forward/930808?source=rss)

Good article. Still don't like any of their beers that I've tasted but wish them all the best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 10, 2012, 10:45:34 am
Went to a bottle event yesterday and had some amazing beverages...

Susan by Hill Farmstead Brewery
Wookey Jack by Firestone Walker
Dreadnaught by Three Floyds
Enjoy By 12.21.12 IPA by Stone
Nelson by Apline Beer Co.
Broo Doo by Three Floyds
Duet by Alpine Beer Co.
Zombie Dust by Three Floyds
Tocobaga by Cigar City

It was a very enjoyable beer drinking day....   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 10, 2012, 11:56:13 am
Sweetcell posted about this before, but here's more details. Looks pretty amzing!


Stone (Mostly) Complete Vertical Epic at ChurchKey

Stone (Mostly) Complete Vertical Epic at ChurchKeyNext Wednesday, schedule yourself a "work lunch", because you've really got your work cut out for you.  That day (12-12-12), Stone will release the final iteration in their Vertical Epic series, a series that has--since 2002--annually released a single and unique small batch of mind-blowing brew on one single day. Each release has not only had its very own, decidedly distinct, recipe, but each has been intended to be tasted in the future to see how those delicious flavors have  evolved.

And the good folks at ChurchKey are busting out 10 consecutive Vertical Epic brews on DRAFT at 12:12 pm (get the theme?).  That's right, the fresh 12-12-12 Vertical Epic will be on tap, but joined by the now vintage kegs of 03-03-03. 04-04-04, 05-05-05, 06-06-06, 07-07-07, 08-08-08, 09-09-09, 10-10-10 and 11-11-11.

And for good measure, Stone have sent some additional draft goodies for the celebration. In addition to the straight-up versions of the 10 Vertical Epics, we will also be pouring kegs of Vertical Epic 07-07-07 Aged in Red Wine Oak Barrels, Vertical Epic 08-08-08 Aged in Bourbon Oak Barrels, as well as Vertical Epic 10-10-10 Aged in Bourbon Oak Barrels!

There is no admission for the event. ChurchKey will be opening early at 12:12 PM for the event. All Stone brews will be poured in 4 oz. tasters and in full glass pours.

The Stone Vertical Epic Finale Celebration Draft List!

?Vertical Epic 03-03-03
?Vertical Epic 04-04-04
?Vertical Epic 05-05-05
?Vertical Epic 06-06-06
?Vertical Epic 07-07-07
?Vertical Epic 08-08-08
?Vertical Epic 09-09-09
?Vertical Epic 10-10-10
?Vertical Epic 11-11-11
?Vertical Epic 12-12-12 
?Vertical Epic 07-07-07 Aged in Red Wine Oak Barrels
?Vertical Epic 08-08-08 Aged in Bourbon Oak Barrels
?Vertical Epic 10-10-10 Aged in Bourbon Oak Barrels
Neighborhood: District of Columbia
Logan Circle.Address: 1137 14th St NW
Washington  District Of Columbia  20005.
United States.Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 12:10pm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on December 10, 2012, 12:06:09 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 07, 2012, 04:36:33 pm
i asked that same nice lady, so "what's up with all of these beers in cans now?"  i hate beers in cans, but i did not tell her that.  she really did not have an answer, wondering that herself for awhile she confided.  she thought it more than likely was the not having to worry about sunlight hitting the beverage, but then you can't store beer in cans.  i don't like it.  i like bottles.  it tastes better.

I think it might be a hipster thing to drink beer in cans.  Only other thing is you can't take bottled beer everywhere as broken glass is a danger.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 10, 2012, 01:58:15 pm
i've been listening to a lot of brewing-related podcasts recently, and a lot of breweries are excited about moving to cans.  they protect from light better than glass, and the seal is better - bottle caps can leak.  ability to take them camping, tailgaiting, etc is another advantage.  they are cheaper to ship since you can fit more beer in cans on a truck than you can in bottles (more efficient because better use of space).  cans don't break.  marketing is another reason: some people just like beer in cans, it makes them more like mainstream brews, new form factor = new markets, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 10, 2012, 02:09:33 pm
i cracked open my bottle of Blue Mountain "Local Species" this weekend.  from their website (http://www.bluemountainbarrel.com/beers.html):

Quote
Local Species
Belgian-inspired, American-hopped, barrel-aged pale ale

Different. Secret. Native. A creation of deep-drawn well water, special barley malts, American hops and Belgian yeast. Aged in charred American White Oak bourbon barrels. A beer as original and beautiful as our native Brookie.

james, i haven't put together my top 10 beers of 2012 yet, but this one is definitely on it (along with heady topper).  what an outstanding beer.  belgian yeast + hops doesn't work for me, but apparently belgian yeast + hops + barrel aging does.  to be fair, i didn't feel that the hops were over-done - this isn't an IPA.  when i saw the $9.99/bottle price at TJ's i raised an eyebrow, however the beer lives up to the price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 10, 2012, 02:37:26 pm
any of you brahz on uptappd?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 10, 2012, 02:51:40 pm
had two rare-style (but underwhelming) tasters at CK this weekend.

Professor Fritz Briem 13th Century Grut Bier and Piccolo Birrificio Chiostro.

13th century was basic herbs/spices, had way too much ginger.

Chiostro was brewed with wormwood, but you could barely tell.

i like the idea of using other herbs/spices to achieve bitterness in a beer, and hope to see more of these styles on draft, but these two were too basic to really push any sort of limits. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 10, 2012, 03:34:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 10, 2012, 11:56:13 am
Stone (Mostly) Complete Vertical Epic at ChurchKey

unless things get crazy at work on wednesday, i will be at this.  would love to meet up with anyone else going.  i need to read up on what the recipes were for each year.  if i remember correctly 10-10-10 was made with hot chilies... not my thing.

Quote from: Yada on December 10, 2012, 02:37:26 pm
any of you brahz on uptappd?

i've been meaning to check this out, so i just signed up.  my username there is same as here.  i don't like the fact that this app wants to track how many beers i've had <insert guilt>.  we'll see how much traction this app has with me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 10, 2012, 04:03:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 10, 2012, 03:34:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 10, 2012, 11:56:13 am
Stone (Mostly) Complete Vertical Epic at ChurchKey

unless things get crazy at work on wednesday, i will be at this.  would love to meet up with anyone else going.  i need to read up on what the recipes were for each year.  if i remember correctly 10-10-10 was made with hot chilies... not my thing.

Quote from: Yada on December 10, 2012, 02:37:26 pm
any of you brahz on uptappd?

i've been meaning to check this out, so i just signed up.  my username there is same as here.  i don't like the fact that this app wants to track how many beers i've had <insert guilt>.  we'll see how much traction this app has with me.

I only use it to keep track of unique beers, not keep track of every beer I drink!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 10, 2012, 04:29:08 pm
my liver does that for me . . . no app for that, yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 10, 2012, 04:37:02 pm
11-11-11 was the one with chilis.

Quote from: sweetcell on December 10, 2012, 03:34:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 10, 2012, 11:56:13 am
Stone (Mostly) Complete Vertical Epic at ChurchKey

unless things get crazy at work on wednesday, i will be at this.  would love to meet up with anyone else going.  i need to read up on what the recipes were for each year.  if i remember correctly 10-10-10 was made with hot chilies... not my thing.

Quote from: Yada on December 10, 2012, 02:37:26 pm
any of you brahz on uptappd?

i've been meaning to check this out, so i just signed up.  my username there is same as here.  i don't like the fact that this app wants to track how many beers i've had <insert guilt>.  we'll see how much traction this app has with me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 10, 2012, 05:16:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 10, 2012, 04:37:02 pm
11-11-11 was the one with chilis.

Quote from: sweetcell on December 10, 2012, 03:34:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 10, 2012, 11:56:13 am
Stone (Mostly) Complete Vertical Epic at ChurchKey

unless things get crazy at work on wednesday, i will be at this.  would love to meet up with anyone else going.  i need to read up on what the recipes were for each year.  if i remember correctly 10-10-10 was made with hot chilies... not my thing.

Quote from: Yada on December 10, 2012, 02:37:26 pm
any of you brahz on uptappd?

i've been meaning to check this out, so i just signed up.  my username there is same as here.  i don't like the fact that this app wants to track how many beers i've had <insert guilt>.  we'll see how much traction this app has with me.

see?  this is why i need to read up!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mekmad on December 12, 2012, 06:47:34 pm
Missed this, sold out in Laurel and Towson:

Beer aficionados are pouncing at the rare opportunity to buy one of the world's most elusive and revered beers for the first - and perhaps only - time in the United States.

It is called Westvleteren XII, and it is often hailed as the "world's best beer" by reviewers and fans.

Westvleteren XII is produced by Trappist monks in Belgium and sold at the abbey of Saint Sixtus in the Belgian countryside. The beer can usually only be purchased by reservation at the abbey - and reservations are extremely hard to come by.

But when the abbey found itself hurting for money for an expensive renovation, the monks reluctantly made the decision to sell the beer outside of the walls of the monastery on a one-time-only basis.

"I think it will be the last [time]," Westvleteren Brewery spokesman Mark Bode told NPR. "They say, 'We are monks, we don't want to be too commercial. We needed some money to help us buy the new abbey and that's it,' Back to normal again."

Beginning today, limited quantities of the beer are being sold in the U.S. and abroad. A number of stores have been sent "bricks" of the beer, which include six bottles and two glasses from the monastery. The gift box retails for $84.99.

"The phone has been ringing off the hook," Megan McBrayer, manager at New York City's Beer Table Pantry, told ABCNews.com. She said the store received 24 cases of the beer and has already sold many of them.

McBrayer said beer lovers are taken with "the whole mystique about it and the rarity of it."

"It consistently rates as one of the best beers in the world," she said. "It's been something that [beer lovers] have wanted for a long time, but it's been completely unattainable."

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 12, 2012, 07:38:52 pm
All verticals still available as of 6:30. Skip the barrel aged '10, otherwise it's all Belgianesque tastiness. barreled 09 is my fav so far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2012, 09:30:42 pm
Actually the 2002 was gone when I got there at 4.

I had five. All the non-barrel aged darkies. In order of preference:

2012
2009
2006
2005
2003

Maybe the fresher the better for me?

Did anybody spot the same "celebrity" i did?


Quote from: sweetcell on December 12, 2012, 07:38:52 pm
All verticals still available as of 6:30. Skip the barrel aged '10, otherwise it's all Belgianesque tastiness. barreled 09 is my fav so far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 13, 2012, 10:58:47 am
i'm pretty sure they didn't have the 02.  see your post on previous page listing the offerings - the 02 isn't there.  the 02 has become something of legend, they didn't ramp up the vertical program until 2003 so very few bottles of 02 were made. 

agreed that the darks were better than the blonds, but the 08 was a great saison.  overall my fav was the barrel-aged 09 (belgian stout)  the aged 09 isn't listed on the previous page so there is some discrepancy there... the 04 was merely ok, and as noted previously the aged 10 was not particularly good.  i didn't try the 12 since i'm hoping i can score a bottle.  so my order of preference was

09 aged
05
08
03
04
10 aged

place was packed something silly when i got there at 6:15 but i somehow got a spot at the bar.  james, if sam calagione is the "celebrity" you had in mind, then yes he was there.  dogfish head was launching two beers last night and sam got up on the bar and gave a quick speech about them before tossing hats into the crowd.  i got one ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on December 13, 2012, 11:28:43 am
Anybody seen any BCS Coffee around the area?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 13, 2012, 11:30:46 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on December 13, 2012, 11:28:43 am
Anybody seen any BCS Coffee around the area?


Magruders had some... James Ford won't tell you his secret location.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 13, 2012, 11:57:10 am
I stand corrected about the 02.

Yes, it was Sam that I was referring to. When he and his posse entered, he was fiercely chomping on gum, which magically disappeared once he had a beer in had. He, and I think the rest of his posse, all ordered Dogfish beers. He must have been holding them all at gumpoint.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 13, 2012, 12:02:21 pm
P Street Whole Foods had GI Nightstalker (which I declined) yesterday, but I didn't see any BCS Coffee.

They also had Ballast Point Victory at Sea Imperial Porter, which is an amazing beer available in this area for the first time. Grabbed one of those.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 15, 2012, 03:27:29 pm
circle liquors in DC has BCBS coffee - pricey though - $21 a pop
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on December 16, 2012, 04:51:41 pm
Sterling Total Wine has Coffee Stout for $11.99. One per customer, so bring a friend or loved one.

I also picked up Stone 12.12.12. I really enjoyed it at Churchkey.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 17, 2012, 11:41:33 am
Quote from: mekmad on December 12, 2012, 06:47:34 pm
Missed this, sold out in Laurel and Towson:

Beer aficionados are pouncing at the rare opportunity to buy one of the world's most elusive and revered beers for the first - and perhaps only - time in the United States.

It is called Westvleteren XII, and it is often hailed as the "world's best beer" by reviewers and fans.

Westvleteren XII is produced by Trappist monks in Belgium and sold at the abbey of Saint Sixtus in the Belgian countryside. The beer can usually only be purchased by reservation at the abbey - and reservations are extremely hard to come by.

But when the abbey found itself hurting for money for an expensive renovation, the monks reluctantly made the decision to sell the beer outside of the walls of the monastery on a one-time-only basis.

"I think it will be the last [time]," Westvleteren Brewery spokesman Mark Bode told NPR. "They say, 'We are monks, we don't want to be too commercial. We needed some money to help us buy the new abbey and that's it,' Back to normal again."

Beginning today, limited quantities of the beer are being sold in the U.S. and abroad. A number of stores have been sent "bricks" of the beer, which include six bottles and two glasses from the monastery. The gift box retails for $84.99.

"The phone has been ringing off the hook," Megan McBrayer, manager at New York City's Beer Table Pantry, told ABCNews.com. She said the store received 24 cases of the beer and has already sold many of them.

McBrayer said beer lovers are taken with "the whole mystique about it and the rarity of it."

"It consistently rates as one of the best beers in the world," she said. "It's been something that [beer lovers] have wanted for a long time, but it's been completely unattainable."



just read an article about this . . . one of the best beer tales ever.  i met an older gentleman once, whose son tried to get into the abbey once with their lists and such, but could not.  this beer is worshipped like liquid indie music over there.  even i think they take beer too seriously.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 17, 2012, 10:59:33 pm
Tis the fuckin' season... Shipments from the great state of VT.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/17049/170499115e5e1036e9931b3b7b42e3160230c870.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 17, 2012, 11:06:58 pm
My secret location doesn't have any coffee, but they still have some regular BCBS and some Bolt Cutter.


Quote from: Yada on December 13, 2012, 11:30:46 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on December 13, 2012, 11:28:43 am
Anybody seen any BCS Coffee around the area?


Magruders had some... James Ford won't tell you his secret location.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 17, 2012, 11:45:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2012, 10:59:33 pm
Tis the fuckin' season... Shipments from the great state of VT.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

WHERE?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 18, 2012, 12:43:34 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 17, 2012, 11:06:58 pm
My secret location doesn't have any coffee, but they still have some regular BCBS and some Bolt Cutter.


Quote from: Yada on December 13, 2012, 11:30:46 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on December 13, 2012, 11:28:43 am
Anybody seen any BCS Coffee around the area?


Magruders had some... James Ford won't tell you his secret location.

BCS = brewed by communists!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 18, 2012, 08:37:30 am
Someone has a kind relative or friend!

Quote from: sweetcell on December 17, 2012, 11:45:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2012, 10:59:33 pm
Tis the fuckin' season... Shipments from the great state of VT.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

WHERE?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2012, 10:56:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 17, 2012, 11:06:58 pm
My secret location doesn't have any coffee, but they still have some regular BCBS and some Bolt Cutter.

I can't find BCBS but found (and paid an obscene price for) coffee.

Does anyone know of a place in MD or near DC line that still has BCBS?  Perfect Pour has 2 bottles and want a laughable price for them.  Haven't seen it anywhere else.   I figured I was SOL.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2012, 10:58:11 am
Perfect Pour also had coffee for a God-awful price.  Quickly losing faith in those folks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 18, 2012, 11:16:25 am
At Meridian Pint tonight:

To celebrate this year's Christmas Ale from Goose Island we are tapping a keg of Bourbon County Stout from our secret stash. Enjoy both of these great beers on draft, as well as Matilda and Sofie, with a $2 discount all night.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 18, 2012, 11:58:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 18, 2012, 08:37:30 am
Someone has a kind relative or friend!

obviously!

Yada - please drink those up quickly.  if you can, keep them in a fridge or on ice in a cooler.  that hop magic really starts to fade after 2 weeks if not kept cold.

better yet, share the wealth... lemme know if you need volunteers :-)  

seriously tho: i'd like to culture the yeast from HT, the brewery uses a proprietary strain called Conan.  The Alchemist is one of the few breweries that have been ID'ed as using this elusive strain.  it's responsible for a good part of the beer's flavor.  if you're going to pour out a can into a glass, please let me know - i'd be most grateful for the dregs.  yes, i come begging for your dregs ;D  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2012, 12:12:24 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 18, 2012, 11:58:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 18, 2012, 08:37:30 am
Someone has a kind relative or friend!

obviously!

Yada - please drink those up quickly.  if you can, keep them in a fridge or on ice in a cooler.  that hop magic really starts to fade after 2 weeks if not kept cold.

better yet, share the wealth... lemme know if you need volunteers :-)  

seriously tho: i'd like to culture the yeast from HT, the brewery uses a proprietary strain called Conan.  The Alchemist is one of the few breweries that have been ID'ed as using this elusive strain.  it's responsible for a good part of the beer's flavor.  if you're going to pour out a can into a glass, please let me know - i'd be most grateful for the dregs.  yes, i come begging for your dregs ;D  

Phish tickets make amazing trade bait.

At least a case will be gifted to friends and family, the rest I'll be drinkin in the very near future.  :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on December 18, 2012, 12:13:54 pm
Margruders was sold out.

My friend bought a bottle of Coffee at Perfect Pour for $25. Eff that noise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 18, 2012, 12:22:06 pm
I drank the last of my Heady stash at about the three month mark, and it still tasted better than most DIPA's.

I'm headed to Ohio/Indiana/Chicago over Xmas. This is my shopping list of stuff I can't get here. Am I missing any must-haves?

Brew Kettle: White Rajah
Three Floyds: Zombie Dust, Alpha King, Dreadnaught
Half Acre: Daisy Cutter
Revolution: Going to brewpub, will see if anything is worth taking home
Ska: Modus Hoperandi
Dark Horse: Scotty Karate
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 18, 2012, 12:49:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 18, 2012, 12:12:24 pm
Phish tickets make amazing trade bait.

At least a case will be gifted to friends and family, the rest I'll be drinkin in the very near future.  :D

a phish ticket for a case of heady?  sounds about right... ;D

same me those dregs...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2012, 03:11:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 18, 2012, 11:16:25 am
At Meridian Pint tonight:

Saw that.  Website said Friday the 18th but I presumed that was tonight.  Would love to go but can't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 18, 2012, 03:31:50 pm
It later said Tues the 18th on the page.

I'll be at a happy hour somewhere, but not there.


Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2012, 03:11:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 18, 2012, 11:16:25 am
At Meridian Pint tonight:

Saw that.  Website said Friday the 18th but I presumed that was tonight.  Would love to go but can't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 20, 2012, 09:30:38 am
Great news regarding Lagunitas Sucks. Copied and pasted from a Beer Advocate forum:


 Sent an email to Lagunitas about the format rumors for Sucks, here's what I got:


You heard right! Lagunitas Sucks returns in the 6ers under a different label design - less holiday cookie, more "we suck". The rumors of 32's are true as well. Although standard bottles are better for the home fridge, the 32's will be good for splitting into two pints everywhere else (restaurants, tail-gating, parties, parks, the moon, wherever). More than that though, the 32's will be good for homebrewers. Since the design is a crown-top, rather than the traditional twist-off style of the 32oz malt liquors on the shelves, the homebrewers will be able to bottle/harvest their brews in quicker and cheaper fashion (homebrewers almost always use the cleaned-out bottles of those beers they buy and drink in the brewing interim and tend to lean towards 22oz bombers for the same quicker/cheaper harvesting end). We'll have both packages available at different times and in different areas - no worries. Enjoy and please remember - we suck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on December 20, 2012, 10:11:49 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 20, 2012, 09:30:38 am
Great news regarding Lagunitas Sucks. Copied and pasted from a Beer Advocate forum:


 Sent an email to Lagunitas about the format rumors for Sucks, here's what I got:


You heard right! Lagunitas Sucks returns in the 6ers under a different label design - less holiday cookie, more "we suck". The rumors of 32's are true as well. Although standard bottles are better for the home fridge, the 32's will be good for splitting into two pints everywhere else (restaurants, tail-gating, parties, parks, the moon, wherever). More than that though, the 32's will be good for homebrewers. Since the design is a crown-top, rather than the traditional twist-off style of the 32oz malt liquors on the shelves, the homebrewers will be able to bottle/harvest their brews in quicker and cheaper fashion (homebrewers almost always use the cleaned-out bottles of those beers they buy and drink in the brewing interim and tend to lean towards 22oz bombers for the same quicker/cheaper harvesting end). We'll have both packages available at different times and in different areas - no worries. Enjoy and please remember - we suck.

Nice.  I had my first Sucks of the season last night actually.  On tap at Iota.  Just as good as I remembered it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 20, 2012, 11:06:03 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 20, 2012, 09:30:38 am
Great news regarding Lagunitas Sucks. Copied and pasted from a Beer Advocate forum:


less holiday cookie, more "we suck"

Not since Primus has anyone gone so far to acknowledge their awfulness.

I do like this beer (a lot) and look forward to getting my hands on some.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 20, 2012, 12:09:32 pm
everything lagunitas does is pure fucking gold.

from the quality of beer, price, marketing, and there outspoken owner, it's all just great. 

speaking of which.. what's the price point for a 6-pack of sucks?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on December 20, 2012, 12:18:12 pm
they are one of my favorite breweries.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 20, 2012, 12:18:40 pm
everything lag. does tastes the same.  everything.  there is a hint/taste of the same in every flavour.
thats why i prefer north coast brewery and anderson valley brewery now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 20, 2012, 12:22:08 pm
ur entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is stupid.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 20, 2012, 12:23:02 pm
It was $10 for a sixer last year.

Wouldn't it suck if they doubled the price?

But they won't, all of their stuff is very reasonably priced.

Can't wait for their taproom to open at their new Chicago brewery. Will make the annual visit to Chicago even more fun.

Quote from: stevewizzle on December 20, 2012, 12:09:32 pm
everything lagunitas does is pure fucking gold.

from the quality of beer, price, marketing, and there outspoken owner, it's all just great. 

speaking of which.. what's the price point for a 6-pack of sucks?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 20, 2012, 12:24:11 pm
I can't say that i completely disagree, but i see this as a good thing.


Quote from: walkonby on December 20, 2012, 12:18:40 pm
 there is a hint/taste of the same in every flavour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 20, 2012, 12:32:46 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on December 20, 2012, 12:22:08 pm
ur entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is stupid.

(http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2012/1/30/bcdd5be3-f3e5-48a4-9dab-8e1e319eda7e.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 20, 2012, 01:56:10 pm
brewing ingredients don't change much from beer to beer, and most breweries use the same water for most of their beers, which is what can provide the most variation of taste in beer. they (edit: lagunitas) happen to have a lot of high-hopped beers, and you probably get the same bitter and hop flavor out of most of them because the water isn't altered from beer to beer.  that's really no different than any other brewery that has a focus on hopped beers (e.g., stone).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 20, 2012, 05:31:40 pm
Not sure whether to put this here, or in Dropping like Flies.

Regardless, sad local beer news.


It is our very sad duty to announce to you all that Rick's Wine and Gourmet will be closing.  Due to many factors, including the sale of the shopping complex, December 31st will be our last day. 
 
It has been an honor and a privilege to serve you all over the last TWENTY plus years.  We aren't closed yet, though!  We have plenty of wine, beer, and gourmet items that can be used for presents or as an adult way to put up with your family! 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 23, 2012, 11:23:47 am
(http://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/DuClaw-Sweet-Baby-Jesus-Chocolate-Peanut-Butter-Porter.png)

barf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 27, 2012, 06:32:51 pm
Just scored a case of Zombie Dust at the brewery...$35/case, tax included. with two people and a two case limit, guess we could have gotten more...

Didn't have it on draft when we at at the brewpub, but they had enough other stuff to more than satisfy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on December 28, 2012, 12:55:07 pm
What is the worst beer made?  I was thinking and I came up with the following top 3:

1) coors light - undrinkable in that it doesn't even have a flavor.
2) natural light
3) bud light

Well I did some research and these are the 3rd, 5th, and 1st best selling beers in this country.  Now the question is why do they sell so many cans of beer.  Coors Light and Bud Light aren't even close to being the cheapest beers you can buy.  Is it just a case of advertising? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 28, 2012, 01:44:25 pm
marketing definitely plays a huge part of it.  not just advertizing, but also behind-the-scenes stuff like shelf placement, access to distribution channels, preferential treatment, etc.  it's impossible for the little guy to compete against multibillion dollar global corporations.  the price difference between mass-produced and craft beer doesn't hurt either (ex: natty light).

i think cultural momentum (AKA habits) plays a role.  for the longest time those light yellow fizzy drinks were the only kind of beer widely available in the US.  "having a beer" was synonymous with drinking a BMC*.  grandpa drank Bud, dad drank Bud, guess imma gonna drink Bud too.  wasn't a whole lot of other options either.  blue moon wasn't launched until 1995 and took a while to gain a foothold... prior to that, i don't remember ever seeing anything mildly flavorful in mainstream bars (i'm not saying blue moon is an awesome beer, but to my mind it started off the gradual shift of virtually all bars offering something other than light american lagers).

even if/when craft beer is universally available, some people will continue to prefer BMC's.  some folks don't want intense hops, thick malt, weird yeast flavors, etc.  they want something light, easy to drink in large quantities, doesn't interfere with their food, is cheap, etc.  as much as i hate to admit it, there is a "natural popularity" of yellow fizz that will ensure that the stuff will be produced for a long, long time.  it's the fast food of beer.

*BMC = budweizer/miller/coors

edit: just realized that i went on a general craft-vs-industrial slant instead of why those three brands are particularly popular.  uhh... still some variation on the above, i guess.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 28, 2012, 04:49:23 pm
worst beer list one through three

one - olde english 800
two - natural light ice
three - anything by anybody that has the word "clam" in it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 30, 2012, 05:45:10 pm
 Just got a bottle from my secret location for $11.99.
 ;D

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on December 18, 2012, 12:13:54 pm
Margruders was sold out.

My friend bought a bottle of Coffee at Perfect Pour for $25. Eff that noise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 02, 2013, 10:47:36 am
I made a list of all the breweries and brewpubs/taphouses associated with one brewery that I visited on 2012. Tried ranking them based on beer, ambinance, food (when applicable), tour (when applicable), and other intangibles.

1. Andescher, Andechs, Germany
2. The Alchemist, Waterbury, VT
3. Alpine, Alpine, CA
4. Dieu De Ciel, Montreal, CA
5. Three Floyds, Munster, IN
6. Ommegang, Cooperstown, NY
7. De Halve Maan, Bruges, Belgium
8. Alesmith, San Giego, CA
9. The Brew Kettle, Stronsville, OH
10. Stone, Escondido, CA
11. Dogfish Head, Milton/Rehoboth Beach, DE
12. Heavy Seas, Halethorpe, MD
13. Troegs, Hershey, PA
14. DC Brau, Washington, DC
15. Port/Lost Abbey, San Marcos, CA
16. Green Flash, San Diego, CA
17. Hofbrauhaus, Munich, Germany
18. Olde Saratoga Brewery, Saratoga, NY
19. Weisses Brauhaus (Schneider), Munich, Germany
20. Half Acre Brewing, Chicago, IL
21. Revolution Brewing, Chicago, IL
22. Union Craft, Baltimore, MD
23. Coronado Brewing, Coronago, CA
24. Mad Fox, Falls Church, VA
25. 3 Stars Brewing, Washington, DC
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 02, 2013, 11:57:22 am
Was able to procure BCBS Cherry Rye last week. Not here, but the bottle shop near my rents in upstate NY had it in stock so I had my dad pickup a few bottles.

This is normal behavior, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 02, 2013, 12:16:06 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on January 02, 2013, 11:57:22 am
Was able to procure BCBS Cherry Rye last week. Not here, but the bottle shop near my rents in upstate NY had it in stock so I had my dad pickup a few bottles.

This is normal behavior, right?

absolutely.  that behavior is the only reason i scored heady topper, so it's justified in my books!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 02, 2013, 09:48:12 pm
http://www.newsfury.com/view.aspx?linkid=29364674

Founders Breakfast Stout $9.99/six pack
Founders KBS $11.99/four pack
Founders Devil Dancer $11.99/four pack

Yowza, major drops in pricing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 03, 2013, 12:35:08 pm
From the bottlin' line.... ;D

http://instagram.com/p/T_tUp8sTlc/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 03, 2013, 12:39:22 pm
this is very good news  ;D

Just back from Ireland where I tried a slew of mostly decent craft (and macro) beers, although there were a few real clunkers - was good to quaff an American imperial IPA lat night upon my return (Racer X)

Quote from: James Ford on January 02, 2013, 09:48:12 pm
http://www.newsfury.com/view.aspx?linkid=29364674

Founders Breakfast Stout $9.99/six pack
Founders KBS $11.99/four pack
Founders Devil Dancer $11.99/four pack

Yowza, major drops in pricing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 04, 2013, 01:58:58 am
you go to the porterhouse on parliament in dublin?  I lived across the street from there for 6 months, they brew some decent beer but nothing to write home about.

Quote from: brennser on January 03, 2013, 12:39:22 pm
this is very good news  ;D

Just back from Ireland where I tried a slew of mostly decent craft (and macro) beers, although there were a few real clunkers - was good to quaff an American imperial IPA lat night upon my return (Racer X)

Quote from: James Ford on January 02, 2013, 09:48:12 pm
http://www.newsfury.com/view.aspx?linkid=29364674

Founders Breakfast Stout $9.99/six pack
Founders KBS $11.99/four pack
Founders Devil Dancer $11.99/four pack

Yowza, major drops in pricing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 04, 2013, 10:29:10 am
founders kbs for twelve dollars?  wow . . . so when every loser is killing their family to get it and nobody can get it except for one case for the whole year and the owner's friends already have a hold on all of it except for one four pack or when you drive over an hour to twenty different stores and one place will let you buy one bottle . . . it will only be twelve dollars for four.  how fucking nice of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 04, 2013, 10:54:16 am
Guess we'll have to wait and see how big of a win this is for consumers.  If the price drops and it's readily available...great.  If the price drops and it remains difficult to find/obtain then the lower price will encourage buyers to stock up.

Would love to get some but will wait to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 04, 2013, 11:44:45 am
Word from the brewery is that they're making nearly three times as much of it this year.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 04, 2013, 10:54:16 am
Guess we'll have to wait and see how big of a win this is for consumers.  If the price drops and it's readily available...great.  If the price drops and it remains difficult to find/obtain then the lower price will encourage buyers to stock up.

Would love to get some but will wait to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 04, 2013, 11:46:40 am
One case for the whole year? How much of that stuff do you need?  It's not like it's an everyday kind of beer. Two four packs for a year would be more than enough for me.

Quote from: walkonby on January 04, 2013, 10:29:10 am
founders kbs for twelve dollars?  wow . . . so when every loser is killing their family to get it and nobody can get it except for one case for the whole year and the owner's friends already have a hold on all of it except for one four pack or when you drive over an hour to twenty different stores and one place will let you buy one bottle . . . it will only be twelve dollars for four.  how fucking nice of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 04, 2013, 11:46:52 am
you mean i just bitched . . . for nothing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 04, 2013, 11:47:55 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 04, 2013, 11:46:40 am
One case for the whole year? How much of that stuff do you need?  It's not like it's an everyday kind of beer. Two four packs for a year would be more than enough for me.

Quote from: walkonby on January 04, 2013, 10:29:10 am
founders kbs for twelve dollars?  wow . . . so when every loser is killing their family to get it and nobody can get it except for one case for the whole year and the owner's friends already have a hold on all of it except for one four pack or when you drive over an hour to twenty different stores and one place will let you buy one bottle . . . it will only be twelve dollars for four.  how fucking nice of them.

no . . . i meant the store that gets it only gets one case, and they already have their friends calling dibbs.  sorry.  i don't buy that much at once.  unfair.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 04, 2013, 01:18:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 04, 2013, 11:44:45 am
Word from the brewery is that they're making nearly three times as much of it this year.

hence the price drop - they can only charge $24 a pack when you have to run around town to find it.  if it's in every bottle shop....

Quote from: walkonby on January 04, 2013, 11:46:52 am
you mean i just bitched . . . for nothing?

i'm shocked.  no really.  shocked.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 04, 2013, 01:27:04 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 04, 2013, 11:44:45 am
Word from the brewery is that they're making nearly three times as much of it this year.

That's good news but with the price drop I would think that folks who find it will likely buy more of it.  It would seem to increase one's chances of scoring some but it's hardly a lock.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 11, 2013, 02:53:48 pm
Just scored a BCBS Rye Cherry for $11.99. Add that to my BCBS four pack and BCBS Coffee bomber, and the collection is complete. Picked the right day to be off from work!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 11, 2013, 04:52:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 11, 2013, 02:53:48 pm
Just scored a BCBS Rye Cherry for $11.99. Add that to my BCBS four pack and BCBS Coffee bomber, and the collection is complete. Picked the right day to be off from work!

Yep, completed the trifecta myself. The real goal is to age all of them, but considering all the hype around the Cherry Rye, it will be really difficult not to pop it open ASAP.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 12, 2013, 10:29:13 pm
Had Boulevard Rye-on-Rye on draft Thursday and BCBS Coffee on draft today. Talk about some rocking barral aged beers.

The Rye-on Rye taste like a buttery version of Backwoods Bastard, try iy if you can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 14, 2013, 03:34:28 am
at a competition this weekend my IPA score a 39, AKA a rating of "excellent" ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 14, 2013, 10:14:11 am
Congratulations! When will you start mass producing and what other styles have you perfected?  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on January 14, 2013, 10:42:16 am
Wow, this is a bummer for my beer consumption (but a non-bummer for my wallet); must have missed teh announcement when it happened:

Rick's Wine & Gourmet is closing its doors!!!  For the last 20 years we have had the pleasure of serving the best customers in the area.
 
We have lost our lease and will be closing for good on Monday December 31st at 6pm.
 
While we don't have a lot in stock... swing by and stock up on all Deli and Gourmet items and get 50% Off.
 
All Christmas items are 50% Off.
 
It has been a great run and we thank you all for being such great customers.
 
We will have fresh bread daily until the 31st.
 
Read further for this weekend's tastings.
http://www.rickswine.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 14, 2013, 11:10:21 am
Posted that awhile ago. What other options are in Alexandria (never been, how is it)? Whole Foods, Total Wine, anything else?

Quote from: nkotb on January 14, 2013, 10:42:16 am
Wow, this is a bummer for my beer consumption (but a non-bummer for my wallet); must have missed teh announcement when it happened:

Rick's Wine & Gourmet is closing its doors!!!  For the last 20 years we have had the pleasure of serving the best customers in the area.
 
We have lost our lease and will be closing for good on Monday December 31st at 6pm.
 
While we don't have a lot in stock... swing by and stock up on all Deli and Gourmet items and get 50% Off.
 
All Christmas items are 50% Off.
 
It has been a great run and we thank you all for being such great customers.
 
We will have fresh bread daily until the 31st.
 
Read further for this weekend's tastings.
http://www.rickswine.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on January 14, 2013, 11:23:46 am
Yeah, I was out of town and then too busy to keep up on Facebook/Twitter/the Forum, so I only just found out.

Not a lot that I'm really aware of, at least not that I liked as much as Rick's.  Total Wine has a few locations, but they're a bit of a longer drive through congested areas, whereas Rick's was directly on my way home.  Whole Foods in Alexandria is OK, but nothing like the selection at Rick's.  There are a few other places I've been to here and there that have deeper selections than the usual grocery store, but again, most are somewhere out of my way. I'm lazy, if you can't tell.

Quote from: James Ford on January 14, 2013, 11:10:21 am
Posted that awhile ago. What other options are in Alexandria (never been, how is it)? Whole Foods, Total Wine, anything else?

Quote from: nkotb on January 14, 2013, 10:42:16 am
Wow, this is a bummer for my beer consumption (but a non-bummer for my wallet); must have missed teh announcement when it happened:

Rick's Wine & Gourmet is closing its doors!!!  For the last 20 years we have had the pleasure of serving the best customers in the area.
 
We have lost our lease and will be closing for good on Monday December 31st at 6pm.
 
While we don't have a lot in stock... swing by and stock up on all Deli and Gourmet items and get 50% Off.
 
All Christmas items are 50% Off.
 
It has been a great run and we thank you all for being such great customers.
 
We will have fresh bread daily until the 31st.
 
Read further for this weekend's tastings.
http://www.rickswine.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 14, 2013, 11:57:37 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 14, 2013, 10:14:11 am
Congratulations! When will you start mass producing and what other styles have you perfected?  ;D

thanks!

mass producing: never, unless i find a business partner who will put up all the money and deal with all the paperwork & admin.  as someone once said, "once you go pro you're no longer in the business of making beer - you're in the business of selling beer".  actual production, aka the fun part, become secondary.

i haven't perfected any style but i'm learnin'.  i've been really happy with my last few IPAs.  i currently have a belgian blond made with the Unibroue yeast that i'm rather pleased with.  my belgian dark strong (bordeline a quad) is really coming into its own.  about time to check on the tripel, it should be properly aged by now.  having a cellar that you can fill with bottles is awesome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 14, 2013, 06:33:50 pm
Just got a four pack of this from a radical co worker...

I now have in possession.

Heady Topper, Zombie Dust, Pliney the Elder, Surly Abrasive... If I can hold out until Hopslam is distributed, it's going to be a hop of a time at Casa de Yada


(http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/surly-abrasive-ale.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 14, 2013, 06:43:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 14, 2013, 06:33:50 pm
Just got a four pack of this from a radical co worker...

I now have in possession.

Heady Topper, Zombie Dust, Pliney the Elder, Surly Abrasive... If I can hold out until Hopslam is distributed, it's going to be a hop of at Casa de Yada

eff the wait - drink them while they're fresh.  as cool as it would be to have that stash, you're loosing hoppiness.  get on that all ready!  at a minimum store them in the fridge, that helps preserve the hop flavor.

and when you do have that hop off, feel free to invite me.  i'll can plenty of my IPA...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 14, 2013, 06:47:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 14, 2013, 06:33:50 pm
Just got a four pack of this from a radical co worker...

I now have in possession.

Heady Topper, Zombie Dust, Pliney the Elder, Surly Abrasive... If I can hold out until Hopslam is distributed, it's going to be a hop of a time at Casa de Yada


(http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/surly-abrasive-ale.jpg)

hopslam's only a week away ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 15, 2013, 02:05:48 pm
Had the 21st Amendment Sneak Attack this weekend.  It was delicious.  A farmhouse saison with a hint of cardamom.

Really really good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 17, 2013, 11:46:39 am
Rumors of hopslam starting to creep around the burbs of Va.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 18, 2013, 09:38:43 am
yeah . . . i can't wait until pot becomes legal.  fuck all this brewery controlled bullshit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2013, 11:34:06 am
yeah, because pot tastes as good as craft beer.


Quote from: walkonby on January 18, 2013, 09:38:43 am
yeah . . . i can't wait until pot becomes legal.  fuck all this brewery controlled bullshit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on January 18, 2013, 12:35:02 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 18, 2013, 11:34:06 am
yeah, because pot tastes as good as craft beer.


Quote from: walkonby on January 18, 2013, 09:38:43 am
yeah . . . i can't wait until pot becomes legal.  fuck all this brewery controlled bullshit.

yeah, because people do drugs for the taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2013, 12:39:11 pm
Maybe I'm just restating the obvious, I guess my point was i drink beer for the taste, not the high.



Quote from: fatskippy on January 18, 2013, 12:35:02 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 18, 2013, 11:34:06 am
yeah, because pot tastes as good as craft beer.


Quote from: walkonby on January 18, 2013, 09:38:43 am
yeah . . . i can't wait until pot becomes legal.  fuck all this brewery controlled bullshit.

yeah, because people do drugs for the taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 18, 2013, 01:02:14 pm
i said that in a snit, because i am getting tired of these breweries that have us as sheep controlled by the special beers that only come out once a year.  yawn.  over it.  put them out more often.  "oh it ruins the experience."  f u.  it ruins my experience of not being able to get it.  if founders backwoods bastard came out all year, i would drink it all year and buy it al year and make more money for the brewery all year.  i don't get it. i don't understand.  i think it is the hipster beer move for breweries.  i'm sure once pot becomes legal and starts eating into beer's profits . . . all of sudden everything isn't so special anymore.  just like how budweiser is offering a super alcoholic beer during the superbowl, to try and compete with what people are now drinking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on January 18, 2013, 01:49:30 pm
Norm's Beer and Wine updated their FB page today at 10:30, "Goose Island Bourbon County Cherry Rye is here. Limit one per customer." An hour later they updated, "Just sold out".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2013, 02:29:39 pm
Twitter page said they had it at 7:32 and sold out at 7:51. Who's buying beer at 7:30am?
$22/bottle. Got mine for $12. haha.



Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on January 18, 2013, 01:49:30 pm
Norm's Beer and Wine updated their FB page today at 10:30, "Goose Island Bourbon County Cherry Rye is here. Limit one per customer." An hour later they updated, "Just sold out".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 03:11:57 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 18, 2013, 01:02:14 pm
i said that in a snit, because i am getting tired of these breweries that have us as sheep controlled by the special beers that only come out once a year.  yawn.  over it.  put them out more often.  "oh it ruins the experience."  f u.  it ruins my experience of not being able to get it.  if founders backwoods bastard came out all year, i would drink it all year and buy it al year and make more money for the brewery all year.  i don't get it. i don't understand.  i think it is the hipster beer move for breweries.  i'm sure once pot becomes legal and starts eating into beer's profits . . . all of sudden everything isn't so special anymore.  just like how budweiser is offering a super alcoholic beer during the superbowl, to try and compete with what people are now drinking.

i think very few people are concerned with special brews that only come out a certain time of year. I have never have any trouble getting what I want.  You probably live in some area where you have people that are concerned with drinking rare beers.  there are more than enough beers to keep me busy just coming out of maryland and deleware.  I can't be concerned with every little breweries seasonal offerings.  I think most breweries should just stick with a couple of beers. Most of their seasonal stuff isn't very good.  For example, Magic Hat #9 good.  Most of their other brews, pretty bad. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 18, 2013, 03:13:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 23, 2009, 03:33:05 pm
Belga Cafe over on Capitol Hill has a bunch of events on the horizon to celebrate their 5th Anniversary, but one thing you shouldn?t let slip through all their festivities is their newest regular offering: Happy Hour!

From 4-6PM Monday through Friday, Belga will be offering half priced draft beers! That?s right tasty Belgian beers for half the price that you will normally pay for them. There will be some Belgian stadanrds of course, but there will also be a few gems from time to time. Last time we checked they had Stella Artois (3.50), Hoegaarden (3.25), Rodenbach ($3.75), Leffe Brown, Grimbergen Dubbel, Belga Pils, Belga White to choose from.

Check it out and look here for some previews of their other events later this week!

belga cafe is still chuggin' along.  dunno if they still do half price drafts, but they do have:

?Drink your beer, steal your glass?
January 24 ? 31 A New Year and new glassware to steal! Come enjoy Belgian beers and steal the glass for your collection. For a limited time, you have our blessing to take home a Belgian novelty.

February events:
DC Restaurant Week: February 4 ? 11
Monthly Beer Dinner: February 26 featuring Chimay Vintage Big Bottles!

http://www.belgacafe.com/pages/events.asp
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 03:16:02 pm
I do wish I knew about Wedding Alt before my wedding. It is pretty tasty. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 18, 2013, 03:17:07 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 18, 2013, 01:02:14 pm
i said that in a snit, because i am getting tired of these breweries that have us as sheep controlled by the special beers that only come out once a year.  yawn.  over it.  put them out more often.  "oh it ruins the experience."  f u.  it ruins my experience of not being able to get it.  if founders backwoods bastard came out all year, i would drink it all year and buy it al year and make more money for the brewery all year.  i don't get it. i don't understand.  i think it is the hipster beer move for breweries.  i'm sure once pot becomes legal and starts eating into beer's profits . . . all of sudden everything isn't so special anymore.  just like how budweiser is offering a super alcoholic beer during the superbowl, to try and compete with what people are now drinking.

i was going to write a long reply about the economics of brewing, the need for cash flow, demand elasticity... then i realized that it really was all about you, walkies.  they're doing it solely to piss you off.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2013, 04:28:04 pm
Spoken like a true genius. Good lord.

Quote from: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 03:11:57 pm


i think very few people are concerned with special brews that only come out a certain time of year. I have never have any trouble getting what I want.  You probably live in some area where you have people that are concerned with drinking rare beers.  there are more than enough beers to keep me busy just coming out of maryland and deleware.  I can't be concerned with every little breweries seasonal offerings.  I think most breweries should just stick with a couple of beers. Most of their seasonal stuff isn't very good.  For example, Magic Hat #9 good.  Most of their other brews, pretty bad. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 18, 2013, 04:42:03 pm
atomicfront's taste in beer appears to be in keeping with his taste in music.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 18, 2013, 05:58:05 pm
Dear God, please don't let the one decent thread on this message board get atomicfront'd
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 06:06:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 18, 2013, 04:42:03 pm
atomicfront's taste in beer appears to be in keeping with his taste in music.

I drink mostly dogfish head, flying dog, and german beers.  Though I drink stuff like smithwicks, guiness, duvel, goose island, magic hat, weyerbacher as well.  I just am not insane about it.   Having to get stuff that is in such high demand that you can't find it and you are upset about it?  THat is just nuts.  And whenver you guys are saying you couldn't get something I always see it at my local store.   No matter how many beers you drink you will never be able to taste everything out there.  

I wonder why you think you have better taste in music than me.  People actually like the music I like.  Yet no one likes the stuff you listen to.  Yet but somehow you think you  have better taste in music than me.  Did you ever think that the reason no one likes the bands you listen to is because they are awful?  That the reason people like the music I listen to is because they are great bands with tons of talent?  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2013, 06:32:30 pm
I think his point was some people like to reach beyond starter beers like Magic Hat #9 and starter bands like Mumford and Sons.

Quote from: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 06:06:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 18, 2013, 04:42:03 pm
atomicfront's taste in beer appears to be in keeping with his taste in music.

I drink mostly dogfish head, flying dog, and german beers.  Though I drink stuff like smithwicks, guiness, duvel, goose island, magic hat, weyerbacher as well.  I just am not insane about it.   Having to get stuff that is in such high demand that you can't find it and you are upset about it?  THat is just nuts.  And whenver you guys are saying you couldn't get something I always see it at my local store.   No matter how many beers you drink you will never be able to taste everything out there.  

I wonder why you think you have better taste in music than me.  People actually like the music I like.  Yet no one likes the stuff you listen to.  Yet but somehow you think you  have better taste in music than me.  Did you ever think that the reason no one likes the bands you listen to is because they are awful?  That the reason people like the music I listen to is because they are great bands with tons of talent?  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 18, 2013, 06:33:18 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 06:06:28 pm
Having to get stuff that is in such high demand that you can't find it and you are upset about it?  THat is just nuts. 

i agree, it's just nuts.  i don't get upset about it.  more often than not there is a good reason why these beers are hard to find: small production and high demand, the latter being a product of quality (not always, but often).

Quote from: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 06:06:28 pm
I wonder why you think you have better taste in music than me.   

i never said that.  but the possibility of such a judgement seems to touch a nerve with you.  are you that insecure about your musical tastes?

Quote from: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 06:06:28 pm
Yet no one likes the stuff you listen to. 

really?  what stuff do i listen to?  i haven't posted much on the subject recently, i don't thing you know what i listen too.  and by the way, i don't care what others think of the music i listen to.  i like it.  that's all that matters.  you should try it sometimes.

Quote from: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 06:06:28 pm
Yet but somehow you think you  have better taste in music than me. 

again, i never said that my taste is "better" than yours, because the idea of having "better" taste in music is absurd. 

so it's not that i have better taste than yours, it's that your taste in music is objectively bad ;D

Quote from: atomicfront on January 18, 2013, 06:06:28 pm
Did you ever think that the reason no one likes the bands you listen to is because they are awful?  That the reason people like the music I listen to is because they are great bands with tons of talent? 

i'm just going to quote that line and let it be, for posterity.  it stands on its own quite nicely.

we've been atomicfront'ed!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 18, 2013, 08:18:38 pm
after a long break from posting my favorite purchases of things i think you should try, here is another list of what i feel are highlights from the last few months of buying.

new holland    golden cap
blue mountain   local species
brooklyn  local 2
duclaw    mysterium
anderson valley   heelch o'hops
troegs   perpetual ipa
great divide   hibernation ale
goose island   christmas ale (sold in supermarket stores and not bad)
chatoe rogue   first growth  oregasmic ale
firestone   wooky jack
firestone   xvi  anniversary ale
founders   frangelic mountain
stone  vertical epic  twelve  (had one already and they are very nice)

plus the worst beer i've had in a long time . . . marooned on hog island  oyster stout
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 19, 2013, 08:03:01 pm
Had a Stone Enjoy By 2-15-13 IPA (bottled on 1-11-13) with my homemade Indian food for dinner tonight. Yum yum, yum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on January 20, 2013, 11:07:54 am
GO RAVENS!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 20, 2013, 11:24:12 am
i checked all three threads just to make sure, jeff. 

yeah . . . go ravens.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 20, 2013, 02:57:06 pm
Why do the mouth breathing masses always gravitate toward the garbage?

I was in Total Wine yesterday, and out of all the good singles they had, a girl picked up a bottle of Shock Top End of the World Midnight Wheat, an ale brewed with Midnight Wheat, chocolate malt and spice.

"Oooh, Shock Top! Oooh chocolate and chili, you wouldn't think those would go together but thinking about it, that works for me. The more i drink beer, the less I dislike it."

Friend of girl: "Beer's an acquired taste you know."

"Yeah, well there's always white russians."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 21, 2013, 10:27:44 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 19, 2013, 08:03:01 pm
Had a Stone Enjoy By 2-15-13 IPA (bottled on 1-11-13) with my homemade Indian food for dinner tonight. Yum yum, yum.

had one last night, delicious brew. 

also had a rodenbach 2010 vintage oak aged ale, which, if i was rich, i would have a bottle of this in my fridge at all times.

Quote from: James Ford on January 20, 2013, 02:57:06 pm
Why do the mouth breathing masses always gravitate toward the garbage?

gotta start somewhere, i suppose.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on January 21, 2013, 11:10:27 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 20, 2013, 02:57:06 pm
Why do the mouth breathing masses always gravitate toward the garbage?

I was in Total Wine yesterday, and out of all the good singles they had, a girl picked up a bottle of Shock Top End of the World Midnight Wheat, an ale brewed with Midnight Wheat, chocolate malt and spice.

"Oooh, Shock Top! Oooh chocolate and chili, you wouldn't think those would go together but thinking about it, that works for me. The more i drink beer, the less I dislike it."

Friend of girl: "Beer's an acquired taste you know."

"Yeah, well there's always white russians."

White Russians are pretty tasty. 

I had my first beer I brewed myself last night. Pretty awesome tasting.  It was an Oktoberfest beer.  It was from Hopped Malt Extract so pretty easy not to mess it up. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 21, 2013, 11:37:34 am
Quote from: atomicfront on January 21, 2013, 11:10:27 am
I had my first beer I brewed myself last night. Pretty awesome tasting.  It was an Oktoberfest beer.  It was from Hopped Malt Extract so pretty easy not to mess it up. 

congrats on your first batch! 

next up: steeping grains and adding your own hops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 21, 2013, 11:38:22 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 20, 2013, 02:57:06 pm
"Oooh, Shock Top!"

I have a friend who is the same way with Sam Adams.  Thinks everything they do is golden.  The beers he left in my fridge will go untouched until he returns to drink them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 21, 2013, 11:52:59 am
I can respect Sam Adams products though I don't typically buy them. Shock Top is Anheiser Busch swill.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 21, 2013, 11:38:22 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 20, 2013, 02:57:06 pm
"Oooh, Shock Top!"

I have a friend who is the same way with Sam Adams.  Thinks everything they do is golden.  The beers he left in my fridge will go untouched until he returns to drink them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2013, 01:07:44 pm
Split a case of Nugget Nectar direct from the brewery this weekend, bottled a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on January 21, 2013, 02:42:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 21, 2013, 11:37:34 am
Quote from: atomicfront on January 21, 2013, 11:10:27 am
I had my first beer I brewed myself last night. Pretty awesome tasting.  It was an Oktoberfest beer.  It was from Hopped Malt Extract so pretty easy not to mess it up. 

congrats on your first batch! 

next up: steeping grains and adding your own hops.

thanks. I am taking stuff slow.  Next batch I am doing LME and hops. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on January 21, 2013, 06:31:48 pm
I'm on a mild brewing hiatus right now as I contemplate an upgraded brew pot and some other enhancements.

I got a crap ton of gift cards for Christmas and my birthday and am looking to step up to a 10 gal pot and do some BIAB for a while on my way to the full transition to all grain.. but there's just so many options for pots out there.

Any suggestions from the other brewers in the thread?



On an aside - my really small beer/wine store (on H, between 4th and 5th, NE) near my house that somehow gets some quality rarities on occasion informed me they'll be getting hopslam in either tomorrow or Wednesday.  I'm excited.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 21, 2013, 06:36:06 pm
Quote from: imbecile on January 21, 2013, 06:31:48 pm
I'm on a mild brewing hiatus right now as I contemplate an upgraded brew pot and some other enhancements.

I got a crap ton of gift cards for Christmas and my birthday and am looking to step up to a 10 gal pot and do some BIAB for a while on my way to the full transition to all grain.. but there's just so many options for pots out there.

Any suggestions from the other brewers in the thread?

i doubt you have an overstock.com gift card, but i brew with this guy: http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Bayou-Classic-44-quart-Stainless-Steel-Stockpot-with-Lid/6165694/product.html

very happy with it. usually do 7-gal batches with it with no fear of boil over.

edit: you know, i think i have the 36-quart one (9 gallons), not the 44-quart.  $12 less, and had a groupon deal or something with overstock, so got it for real cheap.  either way, quality brew pot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2013, 11:29:39 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 21, 2013, 11:52:59 am
I can respect Sam Adams products though I don't typically buy them. Shock Top is Anheiser Busch swill.

That's fair comment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 22, 2013, 11:38:39 am
Quote from: imbecile on January 21, 2013, 06:31:48 pm
I got a crap ton of gift cards for Christmas and my birthday and am looking to step up to a 10 gal pot and do some BIAB for a while on my way to the full transition to all grain.. but there's just so many options for pots out there.

Any suggestions from the other brewers in the thread?

get whatever stainless steel pot is the cheapest.  the only noticeable difference that i've come across is thickness of the bottom.  some a "tri-clad", which indicates that they are thicker.  this helps disperse heat evenly and reduces the risk of scorching (not sure how over-stated that risk is, tho).  if you are handy with tools you can install your own valves, thermometers, sight glass, etc so you can save money by going DIY on those (order parts from http://www.brewhardware.com/ or http://www.bargainfittings.com/).  or if you want it done for you, professionally, get a pot with valves or at least ports (holes) already installed.  these might not be things you're thinking of now but chances are you'll want them at some point.

i do BIAB, only.  i'm really happy with the results and the advantages a dedicated mash-tun don't seem worth it to me at this point.  it does mean i have to keep an eye on my pot and occasionally adjust the flame on my stove-top, but i've got the process down and can keep the temp to within a degree or two.  one advantage of this approach is that i can mix the pot's contents while mashing, which really helps with efficiency.  i hit 80% or higher.  mash-tuns are cool because it's a set-it-and-forget-it situation... but i like twiddling knobs and interacting with my beer-to-be. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 24, 2013, 03:09:01 pm
met up with mr. james ford last night at pizza paradiso and enjoyed:
- Lost Rhino's Woody Stout (cask): i was suitably impressed.  woodiest tasting beer i've ever had.  bourbon flavor and aroma could have been more pronounced for my taste, then again my expectations of bourbon might be overly influenced by KBS.
- Scaldis Noel: satisfying as a belgian amber, a bit of a disappointment as a christmas beer.  didn't have any of the spices and heat (despite its 10% abv) that i expect from a winter warmer.  tasty but a little indistinct.  the St. Bernardus Christmas, despite being rather sweet, was closer to my idea of an ideal winter seasonal.  i loved its over-the-top belgian esters.

i stopped in to the big hunt on my way home and tried the 12-12-12 on draft.  that is a thoroughly enjoyable big belgian.  i also tried Stone's "Enjoy By 2-15".  i wasn't that impressed.  "enjoy by" beers are consistently rated highly but i thought it was a somewhat generic IIPA.  maybe i just had palette fatigue by then.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 24, 2013, 03:20:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 24, 2013, 03:09:01 pm
maybe i just had palette fatigue by then.

officer, I swear it's just palate fatigue.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 24, 2013, 03:24:40 pm
That Stone 12-12-12 beer may have been my favorite US produced dark Belgian beer ever. That's one style of beer most American breweries usually manage to get wrong.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on January 25, 2013, 11:36:33 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 21, 2013, 06:36:06 pm
Quote from: imbecile on January 21, 2013, 06:31:48 pm
I'm on a mild brewing hiatus right now as I contemplate an upgraded brew pot and some other enhancements.

I got a crap ton of gift cards for Christmas and my birthday and am looking to step up to a 10 gal pot and do some BIAB for a while on my way to the full transition to all grain.. but there's just so many options for pots out there.

Any suggestions from the other brewers in the thread?

i doubt you have an overstock.com gift card, but i brew with this guy: http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Bayou-Classic-44-quart-Stainless-Steel-Stockpot-with-Lid/6165694/product.html

very happy with it. usually do 7-gal batches with it with no fear of boil over.

edit: you know, i think i have the 36-quart one (9 gallons), not the 44-quart.  $12 less, and had a groupon deal or something with overstock, so got it for real cheap.  either way, quality brew pot.

Did you install a ball-valve on this bad boy?

That was going to be my follow-up question, whether or not you guys felt them necessary and/or how difficult is it to transfer 5-gallons without one.

I do believe i have the know-how to install one myself, but may just go for one with a valve already installed just to not have to deal with it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on January 25, 2013, 11:41:32 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 22, 2013, 11:38:39 am

i do BIAB, only.  i'm really happy with the results and the advantages a dedicated mash-tun don't seem worth it to me at this point.  it does mean i have to keep an eye on my pot and occasionally adjust the flame on my stove-top, but i've got the process down and can keep the temp to within a degree or two.  one advantage of this approach is that i can mix the pot's contents while mashing, which really helps with efficiency.  i hit 80% or higher.  mash-tuns are cool because it's a set-it-and-forget-it situation... but i like twiddling knobs and interacting with my beer-to-be. 

good to hear.  I've been reading up on it and figured I'd give it a go, but never actually known anyone who does it.  Honestly didn't know it was a viable option until the Zymurgy article last month which dispelled a lot of the common misconceptions I'd been hearing.

An 80% efficiency is pretty awesome.  That's without sparging?  Just letting the bag drip?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 25, 2013, 12:35:24 pm
Quote from: imbecile on January 25, 2013, 11:36:33 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 21, 2013, 06:36:06 pm
Quote from: imbecile on January 21, 2013, 06:31:48 pm
I'm on a mild brewing hiatus right now as I contemplate an upgraded brew pot and some other enhancements.

I got a crap ton of gift cards for Christmas and my birthday and am looking to step up to a 10 gal pot and do some BIAB for a while on my way to the full transition to all grain.. but there's just so many options for pots out there.

Any suggestions from the other brewers in the thread?

i doubt you have an overstock.com gift card, but i brew with this guy: http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Bayou-Classic-44-quart-Stainless-Steel-Stockpot-with-Lid/6165694/product.html

very happy with it. usually do 7-gal batches with it with no fear of boil over.

edit: you know, i think i have the 36-quart one (9 gallons), not the 44-quart.  $12 less, and had a groupon deal or something with overstock, so got it for real cheap.  either way, quality brew pot.

Did you install a ball-valve on this bad boy?

That was going to be my follow-up question, whether or not you guys felt them necessary and/or how difficult is it to transfer 5-gallons without one.

I do believe i have the know-how to install one myself, but may just go for one with a valve already installed just to not have to deal with it.

nah, no ball valve.

i got a separate mash tun, and i use an immersion chiller, and then pour/filter the wort into the fermenter.  i know a lot of people harp that it's a necessity, but fuck that. IMO it's a minor luxury when you're brewing such low volume.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2013, 01:36:58 pm
Quote from: imbecile on January 25, 2013, 11:36:33 am
That was going to be my follow-up question, whether or not you guys felt them necessary and/or how difficult is it to transfer 5-gallons without one.

I do believe i have the know-how to install one myself, but may just go for one with a valve already installed just to not have to deal with it.

transferring 5 or 6 gallons without a valve is certainly do-able, just a pain.  picking up and pouring a pot with 5 gallons of liquid is a solid upper body workout.  use an extra-large funnel (available at homebrew shops) to get your cooled wort into a carboy, if you use carboys.  obviously less of a concern if you use buckets.  those funnels are also useful for filtering out crap and they aerate at the same time. 

i put a valve on my pot a few months ago and have been loving it.  it's not a necessity but sure makes life easier.  instead of needing to lift out my bag and let it drip, i can just open the valve and let the the wort drain out.

Quote from: imbecile on January 25, 2013, 11:41:32 am
good to hear.  I've been reading up on it and figured I'd give it a go, but never actually known anyone who does it.  Honestly didn't know it was a viable option until the Zymurgy article last month which dispelled a lot of the common misconceptions I'd been hearing.

An 80% efficiency is pretty awesome.  That's without sparging?  Just letting the bag drip?

no, i batch sparge.  pretty sure i wouldn't get that efficiency without it.  i mash my grains with 1.25-1.5 qt/lb water, then use whatever water is left for the sparging.  so i might use 4 gallons for the mash, and then have another 4 gallons or so left for a sparge. 

if you ever wanna hang out during a brew day at my place, lemme know. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 25, 2013, 05:13:22 pm
got some sucks.

it's fantastic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 25, 2013, 05:26:37 pm
I concur.

$8.99 for a six pack at Total Wine. Other than the $35 tax included I paid for a case of Zombie Dust, there's probably not a better deal on the planet. Unless you count being able to buy Duvel for about $1.25 a bottle in Belgium.

Who needs Hopslam at $20 a sixer when you have Sucks for less than half that price?

I've also read that Sucks is going to a 32 oz bottle and won't be in six packs anymore. Booooo.

Quote from: stevewizzle on January 25, 2013, 05:13:22 pm
got some sucks.

it's fantastic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 25, 2013, 05:27:02 pm
just got sucks too.  and that weird drink by 2/15.  if i don't drink it by then, will it really effect the taste.  what if i forget?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 25, 2013, 07:47:31 pm
drink by 2/15 should be called . . . don't drink at all.

bleh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 25, 2013, 08:24:10 pm
If you've got anymore that you want to give away, I'll take em. I quite liked it. Especially good as it warmed.

Quote from: walkonby on January 25, 2013, 07:47:31 pm
drink by 2/15 should be called . . . don't drink at all.

bleh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 25, 2013, 08:24:22 pm
Need some Sucks.

News about the bombers is awful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 25, 2013, 08:35:35 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 25, 2013, 08:24:10 pm
If you've got anymore that you want to give away, I'll take em. I quite liked it. Especially good as it warmed.

Quote from: walkonby on January 25, 2013, 07:47:31 pm
drink by 2/15 should be called . . . don't drink at all.

bleh.

now this is weird.  at first, the smell overpowered me so much i wasn't sure if i wanted to drink it.  the first tastes were so skunky and wet hoppinoids, it had me going what the fuck.  but now down one glass and the aftertastes and feelings are growing up my tongue to make me go yum yum.  now i like it . . . how is that possible in the space of thirty minutes.  you get none of my beer, kind sir.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 26, 2013, 12:09:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 25, 2013, 05:26:37 pm
I concur.

$8.99 for a six pack at Total Wine. Other than the $35 tax included I paid for a case of Zombie Dust, there's probably not a better deal on the planet. Unless you count being able to buy Duvel for about $1.25 a bottle in Belgium.

that's an incredible deal. lagunitas fucking rules.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 26, 2013, 12:11:27 pm
Quote from: imbecile on January 25, 2013, 11:41:32 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 22, 2013, 11:38:39 am

i do BIAB, only.  i'm really happy with the results and the advantages a dedicated mash-tun don't seem worth it to me at this point.  it does mean i have to keep an eye on my pot and occasionally adjust the flame on my stove-top, but i've got the process down and can keep the temp to within a degree or two.  one advantage of this approach is that i can mix the pot's contents while mashing, which really helps with efficiency.  i hit 80% or higher.  mash-tuns are cool because it's a set-it-and-forget-it situation... but i like twiddling knobs and interacting with my beer-to-be. 

good to hear.  I've been reading up on it and figured I'd give it a go, but never actually known anyone who does it.  Honestly didn't know it was a viable option until the Zymurgy article last month which dispelled a lot of the common misconceptions I'd been hearing.

An 80% efficiency is pretty awesome.  That's without sparging?  Just letting the bag drip?

FYI - a nice reddit summary of BIAB vs. 3-vessel.  http://www.reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/comments/17bg18/biab_vs_threevessel_comparison/

i should also mention that i brew with a friend, and having an extra set of hands is the biggest luxury you can get in brewing, so my opinion is sometimes skewed of what is necessary and what is not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 26, 2013, 05:12:42 pm
ChurchKey‏@churchkeydc

BIG NEWS! CK will have Hopslam kegs and bottles available starting this Monday 1-28-13 when we open at 4 PM!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 28, 2013, 09:18:37 am
Figures - I trekked down to DC last weekend for stuff.  Guess I'll be headed back soon cause I think I'm going to get some Hopslam this year.  Skipped last year and didn't really miss paying an arm and a leg for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 28, 2013, 09:55:32 am
fyi - last year, i remember seeing cases of it left at virginia market weeks after the initial craze.

i imagine it's worth getting a glass on draft though.  would love to get it on cask.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 28, 2013, 10:59:20 am
If any of y'all get a chance to taste Sweetcell's IPA, make sure you go for it. Damn, that stuff is tasty. My wife and I tasted it alongside the (excellent) Ska Modus Hoperandi, and both of us preferred Sweetcell's IPA.

His Belgian blonde is solid too.

 
Quote from: sweetcell on January 14, 2013, 03:34:28 am
at a competition this weekend my IPA score a 39, AKA a rating of "excellent" ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 29, 2013, 02:08:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 28, 2013, 10:59:20 am
If any of y'all get a chance to taste Sweetcell's IPA, make sure you go for it. Damn, that stuff is tasty. My wife and I tasted it alongside the (excellent) Ska Modus Hoperandi, and both of us preferred Sweetcell's IPA.

His Belgian blonde is solid too.

;D

thanks for you kind words, mr. ford.  doubters take heed: there is such thing as good homebrew.  don't get me wrong, there is plenty of crap being made too, i've made a few less than successful creations.... but sometimes the beer gods smile upon us. 

i had back-to-back brew-days this past weekend.  made a kolsch on saturday and did a vertical epic 09.09.09 clone on a buddy's brew system on sunday (stone has published all the recipes for the series).  the vertical epic was such a big beer that we ended up with 3 gallons of rather strong second runnings.  after the primary yeast is done on this "small" beer i'll throw in some brett.  should be ready around early july.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 29, 2013, 08:53:53 am
My wife's exact words:

"I can't believe that this guy actually made this at his house and it doesn't suck!"

Quote from: sweetcell on January 29, 2013, 02:08:08 am

thanks for you kind words, mr. ford.  doubters take heed: there is such thing as good homebrew.  don't get me wrong, there is plenty of crap being made too, i've made a few less than successful creations.... but sometimes the beer gods smile upon us. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 29, 2013, 11:36:39 am
Arrowine sold 25 cases in under an hour yesterday - craziness!

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 28, 2013, 09:18:37 am
Figures - I trekked down to DC last weekend for stuff.  Guess I'll be headed back soon cause I think I'm going to get some Hopslam this year.  Skipped last year and didn't really miss paying an arm and a leg for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 29, 2013, 11:45:14 am
Quote from: brennser on January 29, 2013, 11:36:39 am
Arrowine sold 25 cases in under an hour yesterday - craziness!

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 28, 2013, 09:18:37 am
Figures - I trekked down to DC last weekend for stuff.  Guess I'll be headed back soon cause I think I'm going to get some Hopslam this year.  Skipped last year and didn't really miss paying an arm and a leg for it.

It's all over DC already... Rumors of a bad batch at McGruders on Conn Ave. My co worker bought a sixer and said it was basically undrinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 29, 2013, 04:26:43 pm
More hate for this year's batch. I hate to say it, I'm not surprised.


http://www.beergeeknation.com/admin/bells-hopslam-most-dissapointing-of-2013-beer-geek-nation-craft-beer-reviews/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on January 29, 2013, 05:55:31 pm
Looking for a new beer spot...looks like Norm's Beer & Wine (http://www.normsbeerandwine.com/index.html) might be the closest fit to Rick's.  Kind of a drive for me...anyone been/have experience/etc?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 29, 2013, 06:30:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 29, 2013, 04:26:43 pm
More hate for this year's batch. I hate to say it, I'm not surprised.

http://www.beergeeknation.com/admin/bells-hopslam-most-dissapointing-of-2013-beer-geek-nation-craft-beer-reviews/

more disappointment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRUnIrzTfI claims that both on tap and bottle (1/03/13) suck.  i'm definitely not spending any money on this year's batch.  at that price, i'd be beyond pissed to only get an average (at best) IIPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 29, 2013, 07:29:58 pm
awww . . . maybe if they put it out more than once a year, like fuckheads, stuff like this would not happen.  they can lick me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 29, 2013, 09:32:02 pm
Wow just went to Georgetown Birrreria with the family. $3 for 12 oz pours of Stone Enjoy By. Can't beat that.

Picked up a sixer of Hopslam. Because I had to. $21.99 at Total Wine (compare that to $8.99 for Sucks). Ouch. Also a sixer of Nugget Nectar, $11.99.

Damn I have alot of hoppy beer to drink quickly. Three Floyds Zombie Dust and Alpha King, Ska Modus Hoperandi, Firestone Walker Double Jack, Stone Enjoy By, Sierra Nevada Celebration, Lagunitas Sucks, Green Flash Palate Wrecker, Two Brothers Can and Ebel, Fatheads Headhunter IPA, Troegs Nugget Nectar, Bell's Hopslam, and Sweetcell IPA. Not to mention Dogfish Burton Baton, Sierra Bigfoot, and a bunch of other hoppy barleywines that i'm aging!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 29, 2013, 10:04:31 pm
At $22 a sixer there's no chance I gamble on Hopslam this year. Will pick up Nugget Nectar for when my stock of Sucks runs out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 30, 2013, 02:27:03 am
Quote from: walkonby on January 29, 2013, 07:29:58 pm
awww . . . maybe if they put it out more than once a year, like fuckheads, stuff like this would not happen.  they can lick me.

your whining makes little economic sense.  very few people would pay $20+/pack for this if it was available all year.  the reason people will pay that much is because of it's rareness.  although the price is high, the amount of hops required to make it dictate a price somewhere in that neighborhood.  the brewery leverages economies of scale by making a huge batch, once, selling it all because of pent up demand, then moving back to its consistent sellers.

Quote from: James Ford on January 29, 2013, 09:32:02 pm
Damn I have alot of hoppy beer to drink quickly. Three Floyds Zombie Dust and Alpha King, Ska Modus Hoperandi, Firestone Walker Double Jack, Stone Enjoy By, Sierra Nevada Celebration, Lagunitas Sucks, Green Flash Palate Wrecker, Two Brothers Can and Ebel, Fatheads Headhunter IPA, Troegs Nugget Nectar, Bell's Hopslam, and Sweetcell IPA. Not to mention Dogfish Burton Baton, Sierra Bigfoot, and a bunch of other hoppy barleywines that i'm aging!

lemme know if you need any assistance in managing your first-world problems... always happy to help!

speaking of aging: i had a 2012 founders imperial stout that i pulled out of the cellar after a year of aging.  gawddam that was amazing.  i hope i haven't missed this year's batch because i need to grab a few packs for cellaring.  after 12 months this stuff is liquid gold.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 30, 2013, 10:00:13 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 30, 2013, 02:27:03 am
Quote from: walkonby on January 29, 2013, 07:29:58 pm
awww . . . maybe if they put it out more than once a year, like fuckheads, stuff like this would not happen.  they can lick me.

your whining makes little economic sense.  very few people would pay $20+/pack for this if it was available all year.  the reason people will pay that much is because of it's rareness.  although the price is high, the amount of hops required to make it dictate a price somewhere in that neighborhood.  the brewery leverages economies of scale by making a huge batch, once, selling it all because of pent up demand, then moving back to its consistent sellers.

Quote from: James Ford on January 29, 2013, 09:32:02 pm
Damn I have alot of hoppy beer to drink quickly. Three Floyds Zombie Dust and Alpha King, Ska Modus Hoperandi, Firestone Walker Double Jack, Stone Enjoy By, Sierra Nevada Celebration, Lagunitas Sucks, Green Flash Palate Wrecker, Two Brothers Can and Ebel, Fatheads Headhunter IPA, Troegs Nugget Nectar, Bell's Hopslam, and Sweetcell IPA. Not to mention Dogfish Burton Baton, Sierra Bigfoot, and a bunch of other hoppy barleywines that i'm aging!

lemme know if you need any assistance in managing your first-world problems... always happy to help!

speaking of aging: i had a 2012 founders imperial stout that i pulled out of the cellar after a year of aging.  gawddam that was amazing.  i hope i haven't missed this year's batch because i need to grab a few packs for cellaring.  after 12 months this stuff is liquid gold.


i thought the breweries did this just to make me mad . . . i don't feel special anymore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 10:03:27 am
At 30 cents an ounce it's pricey compared to Sucks and Nugget Nectar, but cheap compared to the 90 cents an ounce that BCBS Coffee and Cherry Rye went four. And you get six bottles of Hopslam compared to only one bottle of those other beers. To me, that's six nights of beer compared to one night, for more or less the same price.

Plus, if I had to choose only one, I'd drink a Hopslam over a BCBS Cherry Rye or Coffee.

I'll buy MORE of the Sucks, but I'm in for one sixer or Hopslam.

I still have three Founders Imperial Stouts from last year. Good thing, since I haven't seen this years version at any of my usual beer stops.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 29, 2013, 10:04:31 pm
At $22 a sixer there's no chance I gamble on Hopslam this year. Will pick up Nugget Nectar for when my stock of Sucks runs out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 30, 2013, 10:05:02 am
Maybe we should coordinate a board bottle share, eh??

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/314700_10152491206090038_461867689_n.jpg)

To be honest, I think I've been spoiled with amazing beers this year, but Hopslam is still pretty tasty. A little too much heat, but still quite delicious. $14 a sixer in Pittsburgh as well. DC prices are ludicrous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 11:35:53 am
When I called Whole Foods in Foggy Bottom yesterday, they quoted me a price of $25.99/sixer. Plus 10% DC tax.

Which is strange, because just across the bridge in Clarendon, the Whole Foods there had it for $19.99.

Quote from: Yada on January 30, 2013, 10:05:02 am
DC prices are ludicrous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 30, 2013, 11:42:46 am
4-6 dollars for a single beer?  what's wrong with that?  i pay that so i don't have to buy it in a bar and deal with humans.  plus i like to drink beer in my underwear.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 30, 2013, 11:49:22 am
You keep beer in your underwear?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 30, 2013, 11:54:10 am
the ladies love it . . . and gay porn stars.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on January 30, 2013, 11:59:15 am
Quote from: grateful on January 30, 2013, 11:49:22 am
You keep beer in your underwear?

Be careful if he offers you a cold one.
(It won't be very cold.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 30, 2013, 12:13:07 pm
but, it will be a bomber.  oh no he didn't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 12:37:40 pm
I've only been there a couple of times. Not really convenient for me either unless i was going to Jamin Java which I don't usually go to because I'm not into Christian lesbian folk music. That said, they seemed to have a slight better selection than Rick's.

I've found that the P Street Whole Foods and the Fair Lakes Whole Foods are excellent. The latter also sports 16 draft lines, cheap draft prices (compared to DC bars), with growler and individual serving options.


Quote from: nkotb on January 29, 2013, 05:55:31 pm
Looking for a new beer spot...looks like Norm's Beer & Wine (http://www.normsbeerandwine.com/index.html) might be the closest fit to Rick's.  Kind of a drive for me...anyone been/have experience/etc?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 30, 2013, 03:31:43 pm
Big O and Dukes' lineup for their beer tasting show which aired last night....

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/227806_10151449390814610_862613093_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 03:56:51 pm
Were they purposely aiming for mediocrity, or do they just natually gravitate toward it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on January 30, 2013, 04:04:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 29, 2013, 09:32:02 pm
Damn I have alot of hoppy beer to drink quickly. Three Floyds Zombie Dust and Alpha King, Ska Modus Hoperandi, Firestone Walker Double Jack, Stone Enjoy By, Sierra Nevada Celebration, Lagunitas Sucks, Green Flash Palate Wrecker, Two Brothers Can and Ebel, Fatheads Headhunter IPA, Troegs Nugget Nectar, Bell's Hopslam, and Sweetcell IPA. Not to mention Dogfish Burton Baton, Sierra Bigfoot, and a bunch of other hoppy barleywines that i'm aging!

Considering that I can't stand hoppy beers, would it be safe to say that this is a list of beers that I should avoid?

That Troegs Nugget Nectar sounds good though but I just can't stand all those hops in my beer.

To be honest, when it comes down to it, I enjoy a beer or two once in awhile but I'd usually prefer either a glass (or 3) of wine or some sort of liquor treat. Or a really nice cup of tea which I'm really obsessed with. Had a nice vanilla orchid earlier. Wonderful! All depends on my mood at any given time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 04:18:53 pm
I like a glass of wine with food, but just drinking it for the taste seems wrong. Because it doesn't taste as good as beer.

That said, I almost always have some sort of food with my beer. Good thing I'm a runner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 30, 2013, 04:23:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 03:56:51 pm
Were they purposely aiming for mediocrity, or do they just natually gravitate toward it?


oh no he didn't . . . two oh no he didn'ts on one page; think of the odds.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 04:32:23 pm
It looks like they were tasting all local stuff. Maryland (and especially) Virginia may have great distribution form other states, but our own breweries are mostly pretty lackluster.

Quote from: walkonby on January 30, 2013, 04:23:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 03:56:51 pm
Were they purposely aiming for mediocrity, or do they just natually gravitate toward it?


oh no he didn't . . . two oh no he didn'ts on one page; think of the odds.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 30, 2013, 04:32:48 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on January 30, 2013, 04:04:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 29, 2013, 09:32:02 pm
Damn I have alot of hoppy beer to drink quickly. Three Floyds Zombie Dust and Alpha King, Ska Modus Hoperandi, Firestone Walker Double Jack, Stone Enjoy By, Sierra Nevada Celebration, Lagunitas Sucks, Green Flash Palate Wrecker, Two Brothers Can and Ebel, Fatheads Headhunter IPA, Troegs Nugget Nectar, Bell's Hopslam, and Sweetcell IPA. Not to mention Dogfish Burton Baton, Sierra Bigfoot, and a bunch of other hoppy barleywines that i'm aging!

Considering that I can't stand hoppy beers, would it be safe to say that this is a list of beers that I should avoid?

That Troegs Nugget Nectar sounds good though but I just can't stand all those hops in my beer.

To be honest, when it comes down to it, I enjoy a beer or two once in awhile but I'd usually prefer either a glass (or 3) of wine or some sort of liquor treat. Or a really nice cup of tea which I'm really obsessed with. Had a nice vanilla orchid earlier. Wonderful! All depends on my mood at any given time.

Nugget Nectar isn't really hoppy, so you'd most likely enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 30, 2013, 04:33:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 03:56:51 pm
Were they purposely aiming for mediocrity, or do they just natually gravitate toward it?


The guy from Oakton Wine Shop chooses the lineup.    
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on January 31, 2013, 03:04:21 pm
Had a meeting up that way today, so I stopped in.  I didn't have much time to really look around, but the selection did look nice.  Way too far out to make regular trips, unfortunately.  Guess I'm more or less stuck with Total Wine for the time being.

Lucky me, though...happened to stop by on a day they got in Hopslam.  Now let's just hope it's not as bad as those reviews you all posted.

Ive been out of the loop, but is Lagunitas putting out Sucks on an annual basis now?  I loved that beer.

Quote from: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 12:37:40 pm
I've only been there a couple of times. Not really convenient for me either unless i was going to Jamin Java which I don't usually go to because I'm not into Christian lesbian folk music. That said, they seemed to have a slight better selection than Rick's.

I've found that the P Street Whole Foods and the Fair Lakes Whole Foods are excellent. The latter also sports 16 draft lines, cheap draft prices (compared to DC bars), with growler and individual serving options.


Quote from: nkotb on January 29, 2013, 05:55:31 pm
Looking for a new beer spot...looks like Norm's Beer & Wine (http://www.normsbeerandwine.com/index.html) might be the closest fit to Rick's.  Kind of a drive for me...anyone been/have experience/etc?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 31, 2013, 03:23:42 pm
Apparently they are planning on making it a year round beer, but putting it in 32 oz bottles instead of six packs. Booo.

We had a Lagunitas Sucks and a Zombie Dust for dinner last night. Which was better? Two votes for Zombie Dust. None for Sucks. My daughter couldn't decide, though she thought both had cool names.

Quote from: nkotb on January 31, 2013, 03:04:21 pm
Had a meeting up that way today, so I stopped in.  I didn't have much time to really look around, but the selection did look nice.  Way too far out to make regular trips, unfortunately.  Guess I'm more or less stuck with Total Wine for the time being.

Lucky me, though...happened to stop by on a day they got in Hopslam.  Now let's just hope it's not as bad as those reviews you all posted.

Ive been out of the loop, but is Lagunitas putting out Sucks on an annual basis now?  I loved that beer.
Quote from: James Ford on January 30, 2013, 12:37:40 pm
I've only been there a couple of times. Not really convenient for me either unless i was going to Jamin Java which I don't usually go to because I'm not into Christian lesbian folk music. That said, they seemed to have a slight better selection than Rick's.

I've found that the P Street Whole Foods and the Fair Lakes Whole Foods are excellent. The latter also sports 16 draft lines, cheap draft prices (compared to DC bars), with growler and individual serving options.


Quote from: nkotb on January 29, 2013, 05:55:31 pm
Looking for a new beer spot...looks like Norm's Beer & Wine (http://www.normsbeerandwine.com/index.html) might be the closest fit to Rick's.  Kind of a drive for me...anyone been/have experience/etc?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 31, 2013, 03:24:42 pm
So when are you hosting this thing?


Quote from: Yada on January 30, 2013, 10:05:02 am
Maybe we should coordinate a board bottle share, eh??

To be honest, I think I've been spoiled with amazing beers this year, but Hopslam is still pretty tasty. A little too much heat, but still quite delicious. $14 a sixer in Pittsburgh as well. DC prices are ludicrous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2013, 03:34:13 pm
i would attend if invited.  i've got some treats i can dig out of the cellar...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 31, 2013, 03:41:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2013, 03:34:13 pm
i would attend if invited.  i've got some treats i can dig out of the cellar...

I'm willing to host - I live in NW DC
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nkotb on January 31, 2013, 03:57:53 pm
Weird...I really liked the novelty of it last year.  I mean, I'll still drink it, but it kind of loses some of the fun.

Quote from: James Ford on January 31, 2013, 03:23:42 pm
Apparently they are planning on making it a year round beer, but putting it in 32 oz bottles instead of six packs. Booo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 31, 2013, 04:13:21 pm
you should come out to my house . . . of course, i hope you can out run leatherface.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2013, 04:19:46 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 31, 2013, 04:13:21 pm
you should come out to my house . . . of course, i hope you can out run leatherface.

Will you be wearing leather as well walky?

Well, that's four for a bottle share. Shall we start a separate thread, email chain, google circle, facebook event, something else?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2013, 07:19:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 31, 2013, 04:19:46 pm
Well, that's four for a bottle share. Shall we start a separate thread, email chain, google circle, facebook event, something else?

PM's sent.  let's move to e-mail, see my message for details...

mmmmmmmmmmm, beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 01, 2013, 09:34:27 pm
We had our first of the year tonight. Unfortunately, we both agree/ huge disappointment this year.

Quote from: Yada on January 29, 2013, 04:26:43 pm
More hate for this year's batch. I hate to say it, I'm not surprised.


http://www.beergeeknation.com/admin/bells-hopslam-most-dissapointing-of-2013-beer-geek-nation-craft-beer-reviews/


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 01, 2013, 09:56:30 pm
damn . . . just bought a six pack of hopslam.  like james, i had to.  i've never had it, but now, how will i know if it is bad . . . i've never had it to compare it too.  how odd.  i did pick up some more sucks and brown shugga and 12/12/12 and banana bread beer and alcoholic ginger beer and the place i buy beer has tap lines now so i got a growler of firestone walker double jack.  niiiiiceee.

my partner and i just split the growler.  oh my . . . i'm getting some tonight!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 02, 2013, 02:28:18 pm
http://lifeinc.today.com/_news/2013/02/01/16744067-taste-test-budget-beers-for-the-super-bowl?lite

really?  actually, i've had the costco kirkland beers . . . not bad in that beast of a box.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 02, 2013, 07:00:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 29, 2013, 04:26:43 pm
More hate for this year's batch. I hate to say it, I'm not surprised.


http://www.beergeeknation.com/admin/bells-hopslam-most-dissapointing-of-2013-beer-geek-nation-craft-beer-reviews/

if people are still looking for it in DC Broad Branch Market has it for 21.99 a sixer

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 03, 2013, 01:53:06 pm
Hey folks, get your craft beer for the Big Game at Safeway!

And no, Redhook is not craft. 32% owned by ABInbev.

(http://www.gretchenpowers.com/glog/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/photo-e1359900059807.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 03, 2013, 02:06:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 03, 2013, 01:53:06 pm
Hey folks, get your craft beer for the Big Game at Safeway!

And no, Redhook is not craft. 32% owned by ABInbev.

(http://www.gretchenpowers.com/glog/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/photo-e1359900059807.jpg)

craft beer for the masses


there's an interesting article in today's post on the US beer industry... seems to be a duopoly... real craft beer accounts for 3% of the market apparently ( Yuengling and Sam Adams account for another 3%)

i really hope the justice dept doesnt let ABinbev finalize its purchase of Modelo Corona although the whole thing is really twisted as it is...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 04, 2013, 09:57:31 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/485222_10152546906045038_2005539552_n.jpg)

#hopbowl
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 04, 2013, 10:16:37 am
I have only had half of those.  Embarrassing. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 04, 2013, 10:19:21 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 01, 2013, 09:34:27 pm
We had our first of the year tonight. Unfortunately, we both agree/ huge disappointment this year.

Great.  I said i wouldn't but I did break down and buy some.  Even after I'd heard that last year's batch (which I didn't buy) was worse than the previous one.

d-u-m-b, I am.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 04, 2013, 10:35:33 am
We split a 12 oz bottle of Firestone Walker Double Jack and a 12 oz bottle of Green Flash Palate Wrecker last night.

And the winner, by unanimous decision, was Double Jack.

Which is cool, because the four pack of that is cheaper as well as year round.

Next matchup is Double Jack vs. 2013 Hopslam. The Hopslam is a month younger, but I still have my $$ on Double Jack.


Quote from: walkonby on February 01, 2013, 09:56:30 pm
damn . . . just bought a six pack of hopslam.  like james, i had to.  i've never had it, but now, how will i know if it is bad . . . i've never had it to compare it too.  how odd.  i did pick up some more sucks and brown shugga and 12/12/12 and banana bread beer and alcoholic ginger beer and the place i buy beer has tap lines now so i got a growler of firestone walker double jack.  niiiiiceee.

my partner and i just split the growler.  oh my . . . i'm getting some tonight!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2013, 11:22:58 am
Quote from: Yada on February 04, 2013, 09:57:31 am
#hopbowl

so who won?  i hope you made allowances for freshness ("flag on the play: sipping of a two-month old IIPA...")

i got a sixer of sucks, and i can't say that i'm blown away.  quite tasty but i wouldn't raise a fuss over the stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 04, 2013, 12:44:07 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 04, 2013, 11:22:58 am
Quote from: Yada on February 04, 2013, 09:57:31 am
#hopbowl

so who won?  i hope you made allowances for freshness ("flag on the play: sipping of a two-month old IIPA...")

i got a sixer of sucks, and i can't say that i'm blown away.  quite tasty but i wouldn't raise a fuss over the stuff.

A can of Heady Topper canned on 12/17/12 and one canned on 1/24/13 had almost the same flavor profile. The 12/17 batch was the oldest can/bottle at the tasting. Surly Abrasive (not sure of the canning date) was literally just a hair under topper. I wanted to do a blind taste test but we didn't have enough unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 04, 2013, 08:56:25 pm
Felt this beer deserved a mention. Actually, it was fantastic. Had it on draft and picked up a bottle. Tasted like a more oaky/buttery version of Backwoods Bastard. I know, "buttery" is not supposed to be a good thing for beer, but it was. Trust me. Find a bottle if you can.

Boulevard Rye-on Rye

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uIRM8-tKDvI/UN5yqDMWr8I/AAAAAAAAAcQ/x_vWL7ob8qg/s1600/Rye+on+Rye.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 12:01:18 am
registration for the 2013 national Homebrewers Conference is tomorrow (2/05) at 3:00 pm - http://www.ahaconference.org/.  i've been invited to speak at a seminar so my ticket is comp'ed <insert happy brewer's dance>.

in other news, i was gifted a Sam Adams "Small Batch Collection" box set (http://www.samueladams.com/enjoy-our-beer/limited-release.aspx).   contains 4 bombers: Merry Mischief gingerbread stout, The Vixen chocolate chili bock, Norse Legend sahti and Griffins Bow oaked barleywine.  t'was a very sweet gesture by friends appealing to my beer geekiness.  gonna throw these in the cellar for 6-12 months, then see what SA's small batch series have to offer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 05, 2013, 09:44:55 am
ah shit just e-mailed you about the conference.  i'll be there.

sahti! i love these old school ales that are starting to pop up more and more.  heathers, gruits, sahti's... i think they are all much more interesting than another 100+ ibu IPA.  but fuck those IPAs are tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on February 05, 2013, 11:39:25 am
Got a sixer of Hopslam for $19.99 at my local.  It's sweet (literally and figuratively).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 11:46:36 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 05, 2013, 09:44:55 am
ah shit just e-mailed you about the conference.  i'll be there.

sahti! i love these old school ales that are starting to pop up more and more.  heathers, gruits, sahti's... i think they are all much more interesting than another 100+ ibu IPA.  but fuck those IPAs are tasty.

don't dilly-dally on registering.  i expect NHC to sell out.  see you there, should be an absolute blast!

i've never had sahti before, looking forward to it... in a few months.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 05, 2013, 12:06:30 pm
Dogfish Sahtea is very good. I love how they describe a 9%abv beer as "highly quaffable".


COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
A modern update on a 9th century Finnish proto-beer. Brewed with rye, we caramelize the wort with white hot river rocks, then ferment it with a German Weizen yeast. In addition to juniper berries foraged directly from the Finnish country-side we added a sort of tea made with coriander, cardamom, lemon grass, Indian Black Tea, and ramps leaves. The spicing is subtle and balanced and Sahtea is a highly-quaffable, truly-unique brew with a full-mouth feel.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 05, 2013, 12:29:49 pm
still awaiting registration to open up.

JF - that rye-on-rye is fantastic, isn't it?  had it for the super bowl... tons of rye aroma, was expecting a bit more rye flavor. buttery is an interesting way to describe it.  i also ventured out to total wine after so many mentions of it... good place, cheap beer.  got a case of sucks  for $36.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 05, 2013, 01:55:00 pm
when i see rye, i run,  why . . . i don't know.  somehow i have always thought rye tastes bad.  rye?  it sounds like bread beer.  do i want it.  who knows.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 05, 2013, 01:57:22 pm
For me:

Rye bread=yuck
Rye beer=yum
banana bread=yum
banana bread beer=yuck


Quote from: walkonby on February 05, 2013, 01:55:00 pm
when i see rye, i run,  why . . . i don't know.  somehow i have always thought rye tastes bad.  rye?  it sounds like bread beer.  do i want it.  who knows.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 02:07:10 pm
rye is an awesome malt to brew with.  it lends a slick mouthfeel along with a mild spicy flavor.

james, when you mentioned that you got buttery from the Rye on Rye i was wondering if it was actual butter taste (diacetyl) or just the impression of butter b/c of the rye.  i read reviews on BA and a few others noted a buttery taste although not since a year ago... do you know if the bottle you had was old?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 05, 2013, 02:12:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2013, 12:06:30 pm
Dogfish Sahtea is very good. I love how they describe a 9%abv beer as "highly quaffable".


COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
A modern update on a 9th century Finnish proto-beer. Brewed with rye, we caramelize the wort with white hot river rocks, then ferment it with a German Weizen yeast. In addition to juniper berries foraged directly from the Finnish country-side we added a sort of tea made with coriander, cardamom, lemon grass, Indian Black Tea, and ramps leaves. The spicing is subtle and balanced and Sahtea is a highly-quaffable, truly-unique brew with a full-mouth feel.

Being the obsessed teatotaler that I am, think that I'll have to take a little trek up the street to try some of this. Need to go up and make a wine run anyway. Would make for a nice little diversion with a meal to boot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 05, 2013, 02:16:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 04, 2013, 08:56:25 pm
Felt this beer deserved a mention. Actually, it was fantastic. Had it on draft and picked up a bottle. Tasted like a more oaky/buttery version of Backwoods Bastard. I know, "buttery" is not supposed to be a good thing for beer, but it was. Trust me. Find a bottle if you can.

Boulevard Rye-on Rye

Not sure if I would like this or not but it has me interesed. I love rye bread. I love Guiness which tastes like a good dark bread. I tend to love buttery tasting wines and foods. Do not like rye whiskey so that might be the tricky part. What's the hops saturation like? James, you know exactly what I'm asking. I just can't stomach hops so that could be the real deciding factor for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 05, 2013, 02:23:57 pm
I had it on draft in January. I *think* this was the first year Boulevard distributed that beer to NoVA, so the keg would have been brand new. Unless Pizza Paradiso had gotten a keg last year, held onto it for a year, and tapped it at the same exact time the 2013 was released. highly unlikely. So almost 100% it was fresh, on draft. Still have a new bottle that my wife wants to drink with a grilled gouda sandwich.

The "buttery" term was used by my wife, though I agree with her. I think maybe creamy/slick are more neutral beer terms which probably work as well. So probably just the impression of butter.


Quote from: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 02:07:10 pm
rye is an awesome malt to brew with.  it lends a slick mouthfeel along with a mild spicy flavor.

james, when you mentioned that you got buttery from the Rye on Rye i was wondering if it was actual butter taste (diacetyl) or just the impression of butter b/c of the rye.  i read reviews on BA and a few others noted a buttery taste although not since a year ago... do you know if the bottle you had was old?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 05, 2013, 02:27:10 pm
Minimal hops presence. You can taste the whiskey, but it's not overpowering, at least not to my warped palate. I detest whiskey myself, but still loved this beer.

Edit: IBU is a decent predictor of hoppiness. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale IBU is 37, this beer's IBU is 47.

Quote from: Jaguar on February 05, 2013, 02:16:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 04, 2013, 08:56:25 pm
Felt this beer deserved a mention. Actually, it was fantastic. Had it on draft and picked up a bottle. Tasted like a more oaky/buttery version of Backwoods Bastard. I know, "buttery" is not supposed to be a good thing for beer, but it was. Trust me. Find a bottle if you can.

Boulevard Rye-on Rye

Not sure if I would like this or not but it has me interesed. I love rye bread. I love Guiness which tastes like a good dark bread. I tend to love buttery tasting wines and foods. Do not like rye whiskey so that might be the tricky part. What's the hops saturation like? James, you know exactly what I'm asking. I just can't stomach hops so that could be the real deciding factor for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 05, 2013, 02:49:11 pm
I just got a six pack of Brewer's alley 1634 ale.   It tastes like drinking a loaf of rye bread. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 05, 2013, 02:56:30 pm
Hmmmm, still not sure. As I said, I don't like rye but I do like scotch so maybe I might like it considering it's mixed with other ingredients that might make it tasty. Can't stand Sierra Nevada so that's not helping me at all.

I do really like Bitburger Premium which is very creamy and still maintains a bit of hops flavors. (Never tried the other one.) Might be worth a try but I'd much prefer if they offered a smaller option so I wouldn't haven't open a large bottle just for myself and not like the stuff.

(http://www.bitburger.com/fileadmin/DAM/bitburger_com/products/100708_produkt_teaser_gross.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 03:05:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2013, 02:27:10 pm
Edit: IBU is a decent predictor of hoppiness. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale IBU is 37, this beer's IBU is 47.

IBU's relationship to hoppiness does hold quite often, but it depends what you mean by "hoppiness".  you can have very bitter beers (i.e. high IBUs) and little to no hop flavor or aroma.  there are pale ales that are bursting with hop flavor and aroma but aren't bitter at all*.  some people don't like bitter, some people don't like hop taste/smell and the two dislikes aren't necessarily related.

another aspect to take into consideration Rye on Rye is 12% ABV.  those 47 IBUs don't go as far as SNPA's 37, since it's only a 5.6% beer.  bigger beers need more hops to counter the sweetness & alcohol they contain.  SNPA could well be perceived as hoppier and/or more bitter than Rye on Rye (again depends on your definition of those two terms).

*dork-alert: the amount of bitterness vs. the amount of flavor/aroma you get from hops depends on when they are added to the boil.  hops that are added at the beginning of the boil contribute almost exclusively bitterness.  hops added at the very end of the boil contribute flavor, aroma, and almost no bitterness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 05, 2013, 03:33:01 pm
For me, I'm never really sure how to gage a beer prior to tasting. I don't understand the whole IBU thing or anything really about the chemistry of beer. And if I did, how it would suit me. Though I know what ABV means, I never know whether or not it will be an indicator as to whether or not I'll like or can even stomach the beer. Hey, I can easily drink scotch straight up so there's definitely something more to it for me. Lots of them make me nauseous just by whatever it is that's in the mix. Sometimes I think maybe it may have something to do with the yeast or the combinations of yeast and hops.

I know I tend to not like bitter beers but there are times, just like with teas and other foods, just the addition of something else changes the whole game. Bitburger may be one of those beers since it's so creamy. Just like when I drink a reallly nice strong fermented black tea. Doesn't sit well with me by itself but add a little cream and it's incredible and will sometimes even cure what ailes me.

One of my favorite beers is Burley Oak's Barreled (http://burleyoak.com/the-beers.cfm). Could drink that stuff like liquid candy. Yet, someone advised me against it based on what I had said about not being able to stomach hops and many other beers. (Shame they are always pushing their Rude Boy, a red beer which I cannot stand or stomach at all.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 05, 2013, 03:54:49 pm
jaggy . . . do what i do.  a six pack of all different beers when you go to buy it.  never buy six packs or even four packs, unless you know the beer.  it is how i discovered all of my favorite beers, and how i realized all lagunitas taste the same.  such a shame too, for i love me some little sumpin.  i will buy a bottle of rye something from some breweries.  who should i try, founders red rye?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 04:10:48 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 05, 2013, 12:29:49 pm
still awaiting registration to open up.

did you get in?  looks like the servers are crushed - i tried going to the page just to see what it was like, at 3:07, and i'm timing out.  i wonder if this is going to sell out immediately.

from my browser history, this is the registration page: http://www.ahaconference.org/conference/register/  might be faster to try getting that than going through the homepage.  at least worth trying in another browser/window/tab.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 05, 2013, 04:15:38 pm
haven't got in, unfortunately.  has timed out the whole time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 05, 2013, 04:16:57 pm
Quote from: walkonby on February 05, 2013, 03:54:49 pm
jaggy . . . do what i do.  a six pack of all different beers when you go to buy it.  never buy six packs or even four packs, unless you know the beer.  it is how i discovered all of my favorite beers, and how i realized all lagunitas taste the same.  such a shame too, for i love me some little sumpin.  i will buy a bottle of rye something from some breweries.  who should i try, founders red rye?

That's more or less what I do. Buy something different when I'm out in a bar or restaurant or buy singles at the store. It's just that often the ones that intrigue me are the large 22oz or larger things for more $$ than I can sometimes justify in my budget. Especially when it might be a beer that I can't handle.

I don't get the whole Lagunitas rage. It's okay but not all that great, in my opinion. Never had Sucks so can't speak to that. Accidently had their IPA one night when I was out for half price burger night. Ordered Little Sumpin', or whatever it's called, and the waiter accidently brought me the wrong beer. Decided to play nice and take it as an opportunity to try a beer I'd never choose on my own. Wasn't as bad as I'd expected but I'd never order it again. Had the Little Sumpin' next which I liked a little better but nothing I'd come on this board raving about. To me, it's just a decent average beer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 05, 2013, 04:21:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 03:05:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2013, 02:27:10 pm
Edit: IBU is a decent predictor of hoppiness. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale IBU is 37, this beer's IBU is 47.

IBU's relationship to hoppiness does hold quite often, but it depends what you mean by "hoppiness".  you can have very bitter beers (i.e. high IBUs) and little to no hop flavor or aroma.  there are pale ales that are bursting with hop flavor and aroma but aren't bitter at all*.  some people don't like bitter, some people don't like hop taste/smell and the two dislikes aren't necessarily related.

another aspect to take into consideration Rye on Rye is 12% ABV.  those 47 IBUs don't go as far as SNPA's 37, since it's only a 5.6% beer.  bigger beers need more hops to counter the sweetness & alcohol they contain.  SNPA could well be perceived as hoppier and/or more bitter than Rye on Rye (again depends on your definition of those two terms).

*dork-alert: the amount of bitterness vs. the amount of flavor/aroma you get from hops depends on when they are added to the boil.  hops that are added at the beginning of the boil contribute almost exclusively bitterness.  hops added at the very end of the boil contribute flavor, aroma, and almost no bitterness.

I thought there were different type of hops. some for flavor and some for aroma?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 05, 2013, 05:05:29 pm
Can anyone explain why I get a big, fat, happy buzz from Hopslam and no other IPA or DIPA?  Anyone else experience this?  It's even more the case when its on tap......  Liquid candy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2013, 05:17:43 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 05, 2013, 05:05:29 pm
Can anyone explain why I get a big, fat, happy buzz from Hopslam and no other IPA or DIPA?  Anyone else experience this?  It's even more the case when its on tap......  Liquid candy!

Because it's 10% alcohol?  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2013, 06:00:45 pm
http://www.dogfish.com/community/news/press-releases/dogfish-head-sierra-nevada-debut-new-standard-for-ipa-glassware.htm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 05, 2013, 06:37:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2013, 05:17:43 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 05, 2013, 05:05:29 pm
Can anyone explain why I get a big, fat, happy buzz from Hopslam and no other IPA or DIPA?  Anyone else experience this?  It's even more the case when its on tap......  Liquid candy!

Because it's 10% alcohol?  :o
Had the DFH Burton Baton, SN Hoptimum, Firestone Double Jack, etc- all around the same ABV, not the same effect.  Is it the lack of malt, and/or obverabundance of hop, particular variety of hop, carbonation level?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 06:45:03 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 05, 2013, 04:21:04 pm
I thought there were different type of hops. some for flavor and some for aroma?

any hop that is used for flavor is also used for aroma.  "flavor hop" and "aroma hop" can be used interchangeably. 

there used to be a distinction between bittering hops (added early in the boil) and flavor/aroma hops, AKA late addition hops.  some hops were perceived as being good at both and were designated as dual-purpose hops.  but over the past few years brewers have experimented with using traditional bittering hops as aroma hops - and in many cases it's worked out really well.  in some cases it's worked out too well: simcoe and citra are high-alpha acid hops that were developed for bittering, but once people figured out how great they taste as late additions they sky-rocketed in value.  using those hops for bittering, their original intent, is relatively rare these days.

so while there are hops that are probably better suited to bittering (only) or aroma, the distinction isn't so black-and-white anymore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 07:05:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 05, 2013, 04:10:48 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 05, 2013, 12:29:49 pm
still awaiting registration to open up.

did you get in?  looks like the servers are crushed - i tried going to the page just to see what it was like, at 3:07, and i'm timing out.  i wonder if this is going to sell out immediately.

3-day full-conference tickets sold out in less than an hour.  2-day passes still available.  conference hotel sold out within minutes this morning.  pretty healthy demand!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on February 07, 2013, 02:45:38 pm
sweetcell - when are you going to brew a 930-themed beer, like my favorite sports blog:

http://www.casualhoya.com/2013/1/15/3876948/georgetown-hoyas-casual-hoya-casuALE-beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 07, 2013, 04:30:29 pm
nice!   dude is a baller: he makes 18 gallon batches in a 25 gallon kettle.  that's about 200 12-oz bottles (i make 5 or 6 gallons at time).  nice screenshot of the brewing software - dude is sharing his recipe, appears to be a nice all late hopping american pale ale.  i'd be interested in trying one of those.  have you had it, hoya? 

i will be brewing a tangentially 930-related beer at the end of summer: i promised to brew a IIPA/DIPA for the fantasy football league's draft party. 

or i could brew a throw-back beer, based on the aromas of the old 930 club on F street...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2013, 11:23:46 pm
my next growler was of the mighty north coast brewery (the brewery to beat all breweries, state side) old rasputin which i do believe was a "nitro" thingy madoodle.  nice . . . but goes flat quick.  sometimes growlers are nice, sometimes they are a shame due to the sealing tops not doing their job.  the beer was still good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on February 08, 2013, 11:58:58 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 07, 2013, 04:30:29 pm
nice!   dude is a baller: he makes 18 gallon batches in a 25 gallon kettle.  that's about 200 12-oz bottles (i make 5 or 6 gallons at time).  nice screenshot of the brewing software - dude is sharing his recipe, appears to be a nice all late hopping american pale ale.  i'd be interested in trying one of those.  have you had it, hoya? 

i will be brewing a tangentially 930-related beer at the end of summer: i promised to brew a IIPA/DIPA for the fantasy football league's draft party. 

or i could brew a throw-back beer, based on the aromas of the old 930 club on F street...

no, I haven't tried it yet, but I hope to in March when he brings it to the blog party (internet parties!!!!).

the best part of this story is that he got his brewing gear from blindly following a kentucky derby trifecta recommendation on a college basketball blog, then made a beer for said blog.

http://blog.sbnation.com/2013/1/15/3879156/when-does-a-blog-become-a-beer-when-casual-hoya-gets-involved
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 08, 2013, 05:45:37 pm
Founders may finally come to Maryland.
http://beerpulse.com/2013/02/founders-brewing-in-contract-negotiations-in-texas-florida-maryland/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 10, 2013, 09:45:05 pm
Finally cracked open the BCBS Cherry Rye last night. The hype for this beer is totally justified. Definitely one to share amongst a few people as it's really heavy and 13.7%, but man, it's one of the best beers I've ever had.

Also tried Sierra Nevada Barrel Aged Bigfoot. I'm not a huge barleywine guy but this one was a winner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 11, 2013, 11:04:24 am
So I managed to score a 64 oz growler of this stuff for $7. The 26 oz bottle goes for $9ish.

Very good stuff, though not sure it's worth the bottle price.

(http://cdn.firstwefeast.com/assets/2012/12/grainstorm.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 11, 2013, 11:11:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 11, 2013, 11:04:24 am
So I managed to score a 64 oz growler of this stuff for $7. The 26 oz bottle goes for $9ish.

Very good stuff, though not sure it's worth the bottle price.

(http://cdn.firstwefeast.com/assets/2012/12/grainstorm.jpg)

Had that the same night as the Cherry Rye and Bigfoot. Really liked it. Still want to try Rye on Rye.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 13, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
Max?s Belgian beer fest in Fells Point is slated to have over 100 Belgian beers on draft this weekend. Which is ironic, because in Belgium you?re lucky to find ten beers on draft  at a top notch beer bar at any given time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 13, 2013, 06:02:24 pm
gawddam that looks good.  next to no change that i'm going to make it tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 13, 2013, 06:12:57 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 11, 2013, 11:11:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 11, 2013, 11:04:24 am
So I managed to score a 64 oz growler of this stuff for $7. The 26 oz bottle goes for $9ish.

Very good stuff, though not sure it's worth the bottle price.

(http://cdn.firstwefeast.com/assets/2012/12/grainstorm.jpg)

Had that the same night as the Cherry Rye and Bigfoot. Really liked it. Still want to try Rye on Rye.

Big Hunt's got the RoR on draft as well as some other quality beverages ...like,.... Hopslam, perhaps......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 13, 2013, 06:16:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 13, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
Max?s Belgian beer fest in Fells Point is slated to have over 100 Belgian beers on draft this weekend. Which is ironic, because in Belgium you?re lucky to find ten beers on draft  at a top notch beer bar at any given time.

I saw Blur at Max's way back when.  Belgian Beer fest sounds like fun. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 13, 2013, 07:48:23 pm
nugget nectar on the pour thing next week at where i buy beer.  growlers of the stuff.  everywhere.  boxes of bottles everywhere.  drink it from the spout.  get drunk and screw.  fuck you straightedges. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2013, 10:20:57 am
**fondles genitalia**

http://monkscafe.com/events.cfm

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 14, 2013, 10:46:23 am
Have only been there once.  Wish I could get myself up there for that but I'm heading out of town early the next day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 11:08:29 am
Quote from: walkonby on February 13, 2013, 07:48:23 pm
nugget nectar on the pour thing next week at where i buy beer.  growlers of the stuff.  everywhere.  boxes of bottles everywhere.  drink it from the spout.  get drunk and screw.  fuck you straightedges. 

exactly. how do straight edges even have one night stands???  If it weren't for the goodness of alcohol I wouldn't have. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:08:45 am
Quote from: atomicfront on February 13, 2013, 06:16:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 13, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
Max?s Belgian beer fest in Fells Point is slated to have over 100 Belgian beers on draft this weekend. Which is ironic, because in Belgium you?re lucky to find ten beers on draft  at a top notch beer bar at any given time.

I saw Blur at Max's way back when.  Belgian Beer fest sounds like fun. 

That Belgian Beer fest is REALLY fun.  It gets crowded quickly, so get there early.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:09:45 am
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2013, 10:20:57 am
**fondles genitalia**

http://monkscafe.com/events.cfm



and Monks is my favorite place in Philly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:11:58 am
Has anyone had the 21st Amendment stout brewed with oyster shells?  Sounds interesting.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 11:16:51 am
Definitely a (beer) tourist bar.

Quote from: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:09:45 am
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2013, 10:20:57 am
**fondles genitalia**

http://monkscafe.com/events.cfm



and Monks is my favorite place in Philly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 11:19:43 am
Sounds too crowded and kid-unfriendly for me.

I like their Friday pre-Orioles game Happy Hours...when anything under 8% abv is served in a 32 oz cup for $6. Had one Deviant Dales and half of something else and barely made it to the game when a friend and I went last year.

Quote from: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:08:45 am
Quote from: atomicfront on February 13, 2013, 06:16:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 13, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
Max?s Belgian beer fest in Fells Point is slated to have over 100 Belgian beers on draft this weekend. Which is ironic, because in Belgium you?re lucky to find ten beers on draft  at a top notch beer bar at any given time.

I saw Blur at Max's way back when.  Belgian Beer fest sounds like fun. 

That Belgian Beer fest is REALLY fun.  It gets crowded quickly, so get there early.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 11:27:53 am
Quote from: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:09:45 am
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2013, 10:20:57 am
**fondles genitalia**

http://monkscafe.com/events.cfm



and Monks is my favorite place in Philly.

I have been to Monks and I liked it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 11:29:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 11:19:43 am
Sounds too crowded and kid-unfriendly for me.

I like their Friday pre-Orioles game Happy Hours...when anything under 8% abv is served in a 32 oz cup for $6. Had one Deviant Dales and half of something else and barely made it to the game when a friend and I went last year.

Quote from: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:08:45 am
Quote from: atomicfront on February 13, 2013, 06:16:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 13, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
Max?s Belgian beer fest in Fells Point is slated to have over 100 Belgian beers on draft this weekend. Which is ironic, because in Belgium you?re lucky to find ten beers on draft  at a top notch beer bar at any given time.

I saw Blur at Max's way back when.  Belgian Beer fest sounds like fun. 

That Belgian Beer fest is REALLY fun.  It gets crowded quickly, so get there early.

A bar being kid unfriendly?  That is quite suprising.  Max's doesn't seem like a good place to pre-game for the orioles drinking 32 oz beers.  long way to the yards.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:44:52 am
Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 11:29:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 11:19:43 am
Sounds too crowded and kid-unfriendly for me.

I like their Friday pre-Orioles game Happy Hours...when anything under 8% abv is served in a 32 oz cup for $6. Had one Deviant Dales and half of something else and barely made it to the game when a friend and I went last year.

Quote from: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:08:45 am
Quote from: atomicfront on February 13, 2013, 06:16:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 13, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
Max?s Belgian beer fest in Fells Point is slated to have over 100 Belgian beers on draft this weekend. Which is ironic, because in Belgium you?re lucky to find ten beers on draft  at a top notch beer bar at any given time.

I saw Blur at Max's way back when.  Belgian Beer fest sounds like fun. 

That Belgian Beer fest is REALLY fun.  It gets crowded quickly, so get there early.

A bar being kid unfriendly?  That is quite suprising.  Max's doesn't seem like a good place to pre-game for the orioles drinking 32 oz beers.  long way to the yards.

Too far away!  I stick to Pickles. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 12:23:46 pm
We've found most pubs, breweries, and tasting rooms around North America and Europe to be very family-friendly. Best to avoid going at the busiest times though.

Max's is but a short walk for a marathon runner.  ;) Except when you're drinking 32 oz pours!

Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 11:29:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 11:19:43 am
Sounds too crowded and kid-unfriendly for me.

I like their Friday pre-Orioles game Happy Hours...when anything under 8% abv is served in a 32 oz cup for $6. Had one Deviant Dales and half of something else and barely made it to the game when a friend and I went last year.

Quote from: K8teebug on February 14, 2013, 11:08:45 am
Quote from: atomicfront on February 13, 2013, 06:16:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 13, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
Max?s Belgian beer fest in Fells Point is slated to have over 100 Belgian beers on draft this weekend. Which is ironic, because in Belgium you?re lucky to find ten beers on draft  at a top notch beer bar at any given time.

I saw Blur at Max's way back when.  Belgian Beer fest sounds like fun. 

That Belgian Beer fest is REALLY fun.  It gets crowded quickly, so get there early.

A bar being kid unfriendly?  That is quite suprising.  Max's doesn't seem like a good place to pre-game for the orioles drinking 32 oz beers.  long way to the yards.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 12:28:02 pm
Here's a good list of Philly beer bars.

http://www.visitphilly.com/articles/philadelphia/top-beer-bars-in-philadelphia/

And here's a great site listing what's on tap in Philly. Wish we had something this good for DC.

http://phillytapfinder.com/


I've only been to Philly once in the last 15 years, for a daytrip. We really should go more. We went to Eulogy and Memphis Taproom. Eulogy was pretty decent, Memphis Taproom was better.

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2013, 01:25:34 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.

i was going to post something about hitting up monk's cafe while in philly for NHC, but then i thought realistically i doubt i'm going to make it.  beer will be flowing non-stop at the conference, every night has a special event: pro night, club night, grand banquet (even the BN party on wednesday night if you get there early).  there will be more beer than you can possibly drink.  i just don't see myself trekking across town to a bar when there will be hundreds of kegs on offer.  then again, i'm lazy.  hey, while you're up, get me a refill will ya?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 01:32:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 12:28:02 pm
Here's a good list of Philly beer bars.

http://www.visitphilly.com/articles/philadelphia/top-beer-bars-in-philadelphia/

And here's a great site listing what's on tap in Philly. Wish we had something this good for DC.

http://phillytapfinder.com/


I've only been to Philly once in the last 15 years, for a daytrip. We really should go more. We went to Eulogy and Memphis Taproom. Eulogy was pretty decent, Memphis Taproom was better.

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.

Well in the first link it says this about monk's:

"

Monk?s Café
 The bar that brought Belgian ales to America, Monk?s has won every conceivable award for its Belgian beer and food menu that reads like a novel. The tavern has been named ?One of the Top Five Places in the World to Have a Beer Before You Die? by All About Beer magazine. And owner Tom Peters has been knighted as a Chevalier du Fourquette des Brasseurs, the 500-year-old Belgian brewers guild, and is one of four Ambassadeurs Orval in the U.S., which means Trappist monks have acknowledged his ability to properly serve their beer. "

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 14, 2013, 01:57:25 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 12:28:02 pm
And here's a great site listing what's on tap in Philly. Wish we had something this good for DC.

http://phillytapfinder.com/

Thats really fucking nifty! Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 02:43:52 pm
Exactly. It's an institution. The Philly beer bar any out of towner is most likely to have heard of and head straight to.

But is still THE place to go? ( haven't been, I'm just asking) I remember a couple of years ago I had a visiting friend  who had previously lived in DC mention going to the Brickskeller, and I had to break it to her that a number of places had surpassed her old favorite.

And gee whiz, the owner knows how to pour beer into proper glassware. Wow, that is quite an accomplishment for an American!


Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 01:32:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 12:28:02 pm
Here's a good list of Philly beer bars.

http://www.visitphilly.com/articles/philadelphia/top-beer-bars-in-philadelphia/

And here's a great site listing what's on tap in Philly. Wish we had something this good for DC.

http://phillytapfinder.com/


I've only been to Philly once in the last 15 years, for a daytrip. We really should go more. We went to Eulogy and Memphis Taproom. Eulogy was pretty decent, Memphis Taproom was better.

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.

Well in the first link it says this about monk's:

"

Monk?s Café
 The bar that brought Belgian ales to America, Monk?s has won every conceivable award for its Belgian beer and food menu that reads like a novel. The tavern has been named ?One of the Top Five Places in the World to Have a Beer Before You Die? by All About Beer magazine. And owner Tom Peters has been knighted as a Chevalier du Fourquette des Brasseurs, the 500-year-old Belgian brewers guild, and is one of four Ambassadeurs Orval in the U.S., which means Trappist monks have acknowledged his ability to properly serve their beer. "


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 14, 2013, 03:54:11 pm
Bell's Tap Takeover at ChurchKey
Monday, February 18, 2013 - 4:00pm to 11:00pm
http://www.dcbeer.com/event/bells-tap-takeover-and-hm-cask-churchkey
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 03:56:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 02:43:52 pm
Exactly. It's an institution. The Philly beer bar any out of towner is most likely to have heard of and head straight to.

But is still THE place to go? ( haven't been, I'm just asking) I remember a couple of years ago I had a visiting friend  who had previously lived in DC mention going to the Brickskeller, and I had to break it to her that a number of places had surpassed her old favorite.

And gee whiz, the owner knows how to pour beer into proper glassware. Wow, that is quite an accomplishment for an American!


Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 01:32:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 12:28:02 pm
Here's a good list of Philly beer bars.

http://www.visitphilly.com/articles/philadelphia/top-beer-bars-in-philadelphia/

And here's a great site listing what's on tap in Philly. Wish we had something this good for DC.

http://phillytapfinder.com/


I've only been to Philly once in the last 15 years, for a daytrip. We really should go more. We went to Eulogy and Memphis Taproom. Eulogy was pretty decent, Memphis Taproom was better.

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.

Well in the first link it says this about monk's:

"

Monk?s Café
 The bar that brought Belgian ales to America, Monk?s has won every conceivable award for its Belgian beer and food menu that reads like a novel. The tavern has been named ?One of the Top Five Places in the World to Have a Beer Before You Die? by All About Beer magazine. And owner Tom Peters has been knighted as a Chevalier du Fourquette des Brasseurs, the 500-year-old Belgian brewers guild, and is one of four Ambassadeurs Orval in the U.S., which means Trappist monks have acknowledged his ability to properly serve their beer. "



criticizing a place you have never been seems silly to say the least. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on February 14, 2013, 04:06:47 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 03:56:29 pm
criticizing a place you have never been seems silly to say the least. 

Have you met Rhett?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 04:32:14 pm
At what point did I criticize it?

I do have a friend (the aforementioned one), who went within the last few years, and said she found it too "touristy". Though she herself was visiting from NYC, so she was only contributing to its touristiness.

Though I haven't been, I can see her point. If you have a place that is a magnet for visitors, clearly it's going to lose some of its local charm, right?

But if you're going to a BELGIAN beer bar in PHILADELPHIA, local charm is probably not a priority.

Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 03:56:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 02:43:52 pm
Exactly. It's an institution. The Philly beer bar any out of towner is most likely to have heard of and head straight to.

But is still THE place to go? ( haven't been, I'm just asking) I remember a couple of years ago I had a visiting friend  who had previously lived in DC mention going to the Brickskeller, and I had to break it to her that a number of places had surpassed her old favorite.

And gee whiz, the owner knows how to pour beer into proper glassware. Wow, that is quite an accomplishment for an American!


Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 01:32:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 12:28:02 pm
Here's a good list of Philly beer bars.

http://www.visitphilly.com/articles/philadelphia/top-beer-bars-in-philadelphia/

And here's a great site listing what's on tap in Philly. Wish we had something this good for DC.

http://phillytapfinder.com/


I've only been to Philly once in the last 15 years, for a daytrip. We really should go more. We went to Eulogy and Memphis Taproom. Eulogy was pretty decent, Memphis Taproom was better.

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.

Well in the first link it says this about monk's:

"

Monk?s Café
 The bar that brought Belgian ales to America, Monk?s has won every conceivable award for its Belgian beer and food menu that reads like a novel. The tavern has been named ?One of the Top Five Places in the World to Have a Beer Before You Die? by All About Beer magazine. And owner Tom Peters has been knighted as a Chevalier du Fourquette des Brasseurs, the 500-year-old Belgian brewers guild, and is one of four Ambassadeurs Orval in the U.S., which means Trappist monks have acknowledged his ability to properly serve their beer. "



criticizing a place you have never been seems silly to say the least. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 04:39:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 14, 2013, 01:25:34 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.

i was going to post something about hitting up monk's cafe while in philly for NHC, but then i thought realistically i doubt i'm going to make it.  beer will be flowing non-stop at the conference, every night has a special event: pro night, club night, grand banquet (even the BN party on wednesday night if you get there early).  there will be more beer than you can possibly drink.  i just don't see myself trekking across town to a bar when there will be hundreds of kegs on offer.  then again, i'm lazy.  hey, while you're up, get me a refill will ya?

i made it out after gabf, but there was absolutely no point in drinking more at that point.

i barely remember leaving savor, so yeah, going out was definitely out of the question.

and this is going to be a lot more drinking than both of those, so who am i kidding?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 14, 2013, 06:02:52 pm
i just realized . . .  that rogue's oregasmic ale, is horrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 06:09:16 pm
One of my LEAST favorite craft breweries. The server at their brewpub in Portland was downright rude, and their beers weren't much nicer.

Quote from: walkonby on February 14, 2013, 06:02:52 pm
i just realized . . .  that rogue's oregasmic ale, is horrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 14, 2013, 06:17:01 pm
what . . . you go to beer college or something?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 06:21:54 pm
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.


Quote from: walkonby on February 14, 2013, 06:17:01 pm
what . . . you go to beer college or something?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 14, 2013, 06:26:06 pm
the question in reference was an obscure nod to the movie half baked where dave's character is delivered weed by this guy who spouts off all this weed knowledge like he was the master.  so dave asks the guy in a funny tender moment . . . "damn, you go to weed college or something?"  so it was just a simple praise of your constant, instant beer knowledge.  i mention i hate a beer, and you instantly chime in with tales of a distant trip to some far away town where that very beer was so rude to you. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2013, 06:33:33 pm
Quote from: walkonby on February 14, 2013, 06:26:06 pm
a distant trip to some far away town where that very beer was so rude to you. 

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 14, 2013, 06:37:54 pm
awesome, to you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 06:42:53 pm
LOL, thanks, and to think that my beer consumption consisted of one or two Yuenglings a week less than five years ago. And that I once went on vacation in Colorado and visited exactly one brewery, COORS.

 And jogged by the Great Divide Brewery in Denver several times without stopping a second time I was there.


Quote from: walkonby on February 14, 2013, 06:26:06 pm
the question in reference was an obscure nod to the movie half baked where dave's character is delivered weed by this guy who spouts off all this weed knowledge like he was the master.  so dave asks the guy in a funny tender moment . . . "damn, you go to weed college or something?"  so it was just a simple praise of your constant, instant beer knowledge.  i mention i hate a beer, and you instantly chime in with tales of a distant trip to some far away town where that very beer was so rude to you. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 15, 2013, 10:27:32 am
Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 01:32:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 12:28:02 pm
Here's a good list of Philly beer bars.

http://www.visitphilly.com/articles/philadelphia/top-beer-bars-in-philadelphia/

And here's a great site listing what's on tap in Philly. Wish we had something this good for DC.

http://phillytapfinder.com/


I've only been to Philly once in the last 15 years, for a daytrip. We really should go more. We went to Eulogy and Memphis Taproom. Eulogy was pretty decent, Memphis Taproom was better.

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.

Well in the first link it says this about monk's:

"

Monk?s Café
 The bar that brought Belgian ales to America, Monk?s has won every conceivable award for its Belgian beer and food menu that reads like a novel. The tavern has been named ?One of the Top Five Places in the World to Have a Beer Before You Die? by All About Beer magazine. And owner Tom Peters has been knighted as a Chevalier du Fourquette des Brasseurs, the 500-year-old Belgian brewers guild, and is one of four Ambassadeurs Orval in the U.S., which means Trappist monks have acknowledged his ability to properly serve their beer. "



I first went to Monks 13 years ago when my friend lived around the corner.  I actually had no idea it was so popular or a destination.  It's just the place I always like to go in Philly because it was one of the first I visited!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on February 15, 2013, 01:21:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 06:42:53 pm


 And jogged by the Great Divide Brewery in Denver several times without stopping a second time I was there.

Next time you are jogging through Denver by Great Divide, you can now jog to the other 7 breweries within a 2 mile radius of Great Divide with Crooked Stave soon to move into the new The Source development.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 15, 2013, 01:36:13 pm
crooked stave - http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/25191

 :o

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 15, 2013, 02:17:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 04:32:14 pm
At what point did I criticize it?

I do have a friend (the aforementioned one), who went within the last few years, and said she found it too "touristy". Though she herself was visiting from NYC, so she was only contributing to its touristiness.

Though I haven't been, I can see her point. If you have a place that is a magnet for visitors, clearly it's going to lose some of its local charm, right?

But if you're going to a BELGIAN beer bar in PHILADELPHIA, local charm is probably not a priority.

Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 03:56:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 02:43:52 pm
Exactly. It's an institution. The Philly beer bar any out of towner is most likely to have heard of and head straight to.

But is still THE place to go? ( haven't been, I'm just asking) I remember a couple of years ago I had a visiting friend  who had previously lived in DC mention going to the Brickskeller, and I had to break it to her that a number of places had surpassed her old favorite.

And gee whiz, the owner knows how to pour beer into proper glassware. Wow, that is quite an accomplishment for an American!


Quote from: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 01:32:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 12:28:02 pm
Here's a good list of Philly beer bars.

http://www.visitphilly.com/articles/philadelphia/top-beer-bars-in-philadelphia/

And here's a great site listing what's on tap in Philly. Wish we had something this good for DC.

http://phillytapfinder.com/


I've only been to Philly once in the last 15 years, for a daytrip. We really should go more. We went to Eulogy and Memphis Taproom. Eulogy was pretty decent, Memphis Taproom was better.

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 14, 2013, 11:58:28 am
for belgian pubs in philly... i'm a big fan of Eulogy.

looking forward to checking out some spots during the homebrew conference, if I can survive the day to make it out.

Well in the first link it says this about monk's:

"

Monk?s Café
 The bar that brought Belgian ales to America, Monk?s has won every conceivable award for its Belgian beer and food menu that reads like a novel. The tavern has been named ?One of the Top Five Places in the World to Have a Beer Before You Die? by All About Beer magazine. And owner Tom Peters has been knighted as a Chevalier du Fourquette des Brasseurs, the 500-year-old Belgian brewers guild, and is one of four Ambassadeurs Orval in the U.S., which means Trappist monks have acknowledged his ability to properly serve their beer. "



criticizing a place you have never been seems silly to say the least. 

It is not like there are a bunch of tourists in t-shirts, shorts, and sneakers walking in there.  It is just a place to have good beer and good food.  You are over thinking things.  It is freaking philadelphia.  It isn't like meeting the locals is all that interesting or exciting. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 15, 2013, 03:01:42 pm
Compared to the people you meet/observe in a DC craft beer bar, it is.


Think of it this way. Churchkey in DC crushes Mahaffey's in Baltimore on beer selection. But based on local atmosphere, i'll take Mahaffey's any day.


Quote from: atomicfront on February 15, 2013, 02:17:07 pm

It is not like there are a bunch of tourists in t-shirts, shorts, and sneakers walking in there.  It is just a place to have good beer and good food.  You are over thinking things.  It is freaking philadelphia.  It isn't like meeting the locals is all that interesting or exciting. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 15, 2013, 03:56:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 15, 2013, 03:01:42 pm
Compared to the people you meet/observe in a DC craft beer bar, it is.


Think of it this way. Churchkey in DC crushes Mahaffey's in Baltimore on beer selection. But based on local atmosphere, i'll take Mahaffey's any day.


Quote from: atomicfront on February 15, 2013, 02:17:07 pm

It is not like there are a bunch of tourists in t-shirts, shorts, and sneakers walking in there.  It is just a place to have good beer and good food.  You are over thinking things.  It is freaking philadelphia.  It isn't like meeting the locals is all that interesting or exciting. 

I never even heard of Mahaffeys.  I really only go to Brewer's Art and Heavy Seas Alehouse for bars that specialize in beer.  Some times pratt street ale house after a game.  Max's is pretty lame place to go.  Food isn't good.  Patrons aren't cool.  I would probably go to Frisco Tap House before Max's. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on February 15, 2013, 04:01:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 15, 2013, 03:01:42 pm
Compared to the people you meet/observe in a DC craft beer bar, it is.


Think of it this way. Churchkey in DC crushes Mahaffey's in Baltimore on beer selection. But based on local atmosphere, i'll take Mahaffey's any day.


Quote from: atomicfront on February 15, 2013, 02:17:07 pm

It is not like there are a bunch of tourists in t-shirts, shorts, and sneakers walking in there.  It is just a place to have good beer and good food.  You are over thinking things.  It is freaking philadelphia.  It isn't like meeting the locals is all that interesting or exciting. 

As would I, but that's primarily for the three-fors during happy hour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 15, 2013, 04:17:35 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 15, 2013, 03:56:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 15, 2013, 03:01:42 pm
Compared to the people you meet/observe in a DC craft beer bar, it is.


Think of it this way. Churchkey in DC crushes Mahaffey's in Baltimore on beer selection. But based on local atmosphere, i'll take Mahaffey's any day.


Quote from: atomicfront on February 15, 2013, 02:17:07 pm

It is not like there are a bunch of tourists in t-shirts, shorts, and sneakers walking in there.  It is just a place to have good beer and good food.  You are over thinking things.  It is freaking philadelphia.  It isn't like meeting the locals is all that interesting or exciting. 

I never even heard of Mahaffeys.  I really only go to Brewer's Art and Heavy Seas Alehouse for bars that specialize in beer.  Some times pratt street ale house after a game.  Max's is pretty lame place to go.  Food isn't good.  Patrons aren't cool.  I would probably go to Frisco Tap House before Max's. 

there is a pratt street ale house in columbia now too.  I frequent Frisco but that's because it's down the street!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on February 15, 2013, 05:02:09 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 15, 2013, 01:36:13 pm
crooked stave - http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/25191

 :o



And it looks like you will soon be able to get Crooked Stave on the east coast.  Well, New York at least: http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/2013/02/crooked_stave_will_triple_in_size_in_2013_sell_sour_beers_out_of_state.php (http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/2013/02/crooked_stave_will_triple_in_size_in_2013_sell_sour_beers_out_of_state.php)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 15, 2013, 06:00:19 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on February 15, 2013, 04:37:10 pm
Oh man, I am so excited to see this. Been wanting to see PD for years.

Black Cat
Fri Mar 29::
Surly and 3 Floyds present:
PIG DESTROYER, DARKEST HOUR


wait, what?  does this mean the black cat will be serving surley and 3F that night?  as if i needed another reason to make it to that show...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on February 16, 2013, 05:37:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 15, 2013, 06:00:19 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on February 15, 2013, 04:37:10 pm
Oh man, I am so excited to see this. Been wanting to see PD for years.

Black Cat
Fri Mar 29::
Surly and 3 Floyds present:
PIG DESTROYER, DARKEST HOUR


wait, what?  does this mean the black cat will be serving surley and 3F that night?  as if i needed another reason to make it to that show...

They're at least serving a collab beer between the 2:

http://beerpulse.com/2013/02/three-floyds-permanent-funeral-to-be-featured-at-pig-destroyer-show-during-cbc/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 17, 2013, 06:01:18 am
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2013, 12:41:56 pm
Received another shipment of Surly Abrasive this weekend, I will say this beer might be just as tasty as Heady. It's pretty unbelievable how delicious it is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 19, 2013, 01:46:25 pm
tap take-overs at the Iron Horse, 2 blocks south of Verizon Center:

Troegs Brewing Co. ? February 21

Harpoon Brewery ? March 7

Old Dominion Brewing Co. ? March 21

Brunehaut ? St. Martin ? April 4

Evolution Craft Brewing Co. ? April 18

Devils Backbone Brewing Co. - May 2

Stone Brewing Co. ? May 16

http://ironhorsedc.com/events/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 19, 2013, 01:52:19 pm
http://21st-amendment.com/beers/marooned-on-hog-island/

Drank this over the weekend.  Wonderful strong, smoky stout.  Highly recommend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 19, 2013, 01:53:21 pm
Yes, Denver/Boulder/Fort Collins/Rocky Mountain National Park tops my wishlist for my next vacation. But it looks doubtful for 2013. :(

Quote from: Lazer Guided Melodies on February 15, 2013, 01:21:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 06:42:53 pm


 And jogged by the Great Divide Brewery in Denver several times without stopping a second time I was there.

Next time you are jogging through Denver by Great Divide, you can now jog to the other 7 breweries within a 2 mile radius of Great Divide with Crooked Stave soon to move into the new The Source development.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 11:43:22 am
finally had my first hopslam last night, on draft at the iron horse.  really good DIPA, but not the best i've ever had.  i'll definitely give it another chance but it doesn't come close to unseating heady topper as my #1.  it might be in my top 5... not sure.  since this appears to be an off year, i'll withhold my verdict.

i was at the iron horse for the monthly meeting of the DC homebrewers club.  it was the annual "high gravity" meeting - everyone brought their barleywines, IIPAs/DIPAs, big belgians, imperial stouts, etc.  there was some really delicious stuff being passed around.  yes, i stumbled home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 20, 2013, 12:03:50 pm
I was told they started brewing it on different equipment in 2012. No idea if that could be the reason it's off, or if it was off last year as well.

I can't remember what year I first had it, but it's definitely not as good as it used to be. Same goes for Nugget Nectar, and that coincides with their brewery location move.

Or maybe it's just that nothing tastes all that amazing once you've had Heady Topper.

Quote from: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 11:43:22 am
finally had my first hopslam last night, on draft at the iron horse.  really good DIPA, but not the best i've ever had.  i'll definitely give it another chance but it doesn't come close to unseating heady topper as my #1.  it might be in my top 5... not sure.  since this appears to be an off year, i'll withhold my verdict.

i was at the iron horse for the monthly meeting of the DC homebrewers club.  it was the annual "high gravity" meeting - everyone brought their barleywines, IIPAs/DIPAs, big belgians, imperial stouts, etc.  there was some really delicious stuff being passed around.  yes, i stumbled home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 20, 2013, 12:10:41 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 20, 2013, 12:03:50 pm
I was told they started brewing it on different equipment in 2012. No idea if that could be the reason it's off, or if it was off last year as well.

I can't remember what year I first had it, but it's definitely not as good as it used to be. Same goes for Nugget Nectar, and that coincides with their brewery location move.

Or maybe it's just that nothing tastes all that amazing once you've had Heady Topper.

Quote from: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 11:43:22 am
finally had my first hopslam last night, on draft at the iron horse.  really good DIPA, but not the best i've ever had.  i'll definitely give it another chance but it doesn't come close to unseating heady topper as my #1.  it might be in my top 5... not sure.  since this appears to be an off year, i'll withhold my verdict.

i was at the iron horse for the monthly meeting of the DC homebrewers club.  it was the annual "high gravity" meeting - everyone brought their barleywines, IIPAs/DIPAs, big belgians, imperial stouts, etc.  there was some really delicious stuff being passed around.  yes, i stumbled home.

I think it's a combo of bad quality control this year mixed with there are a just a lot much BETTER beers than Hopslam. Five years ago, it was absolutely epic... Now it's just another decent DIPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 20, 2013, 12:11:21 pm
bummed I couldn't make it to high-gravity night.  worked till 9, and back at it 7am today...

i feel nugget nectar is more about the malt to hop balance, but that's just me.  hopslam is an assault of bitterness, and that can get old after you've tried so many hop-bombs.  wasn't someone on here saying your threshold for bitterness is decreased with the more hoppy beers you drink? makes sense.  i wonder if IPAs will soon become just your average tasting beer to beerheads.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 12:55:49 pm
I am trying to make my first lager.  Hopefully the corner of my basement is cold enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 20, 2013, 01:03:37 pm
IPA's are our session ale, i.e. the style we usually have with dinner. If my wife had her way, DIPA's would be our session ale.

Quote from: stevewizzle on February 20, 2013, 12:11:21 pm
bummed I couldn't make it to high-gravity night.  worked till 9, and back at it 7am today...

i feel nugget nectar is more about the malt to hop balance, but that's just me.  hopslam is an assault of bitterness, and that can get old after you've tried so many hop-bombs.  wasn't someone on here saying your threshold for bitterness is decreased with the more hoppy beers you drink? makes sense.  i wonder if IPAs will soon become just your average tasting beer to beerheads.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on February 20, 2013, 01:14:38 pm
Yeah, pretty much all I drink these days is IPAs - Sierra Nevada cans are my go-to right now, mixed in with Raging Bitch, Loose Cannon, and Two Hearted when I'm feeling frisky.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 01:28:22 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 12:55:49 pm
I am trying to make my first lager.  Hopefully the corner of my basement is cold enough.

a carboy sitting on my basement's cement floor settles at 57-58*F.  ideally yours is a tad cooler, since you want to be under 55*F for most lager yeasts if you want to make a true, crisp lager.

if you're above the ideal range, the beer will have more esters & other "non-clean" flavors.  you'll be making a steam beer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_beer).

do you have a fridge for lagering once fermentation is done?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 01:39:48 pm
since we're on a hop kick today: over the past 2 weekend i went on a hoppy beer buying binge (in part caused by the dwindling supply of my own IPA).  in order of preference, this is what i had:

1) firestone walker's wookie jack: almost has me reconsidering the whole "black IPA" thing.  maybe it's the rye that makes it work.  or piney, woody, and touch of fruity...  gotta get me some more of that.
2) avery's maharaja: ol' dependable.
3) stone's double bastard: not your typically hoppy beer but that spicy chinook hop really scratched the itch for me.
4) bell's two-hearted ale: dunno if this was a bad batch, or it wasn't handled properly, but it didn't have the usual kick.  it was a disappointment: the "bottled on" date was less than two weeks so i was expecting an explosion of centennial... but it was lacking.  this was my first time having it in a bottle so maybe it's just better on tap.
5) lagunitas maximus: to be avoided.  the price is low and you get what you pay for.  not horrible but not particularly good either.  spend a few dollars more on something better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 20, 2013, 02:01:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 01:39:48 pm
since we're on a hop kick today: over the past 2 weekend i went on a hoppy beer buying binge (in part caused by the dwindling supply of my own IPA).  in order of preference, this is what i had:

1) firestone walker's wookie jack: almost has me reconsidering the whole "black IPA" thing.  maybe it's the rye that makes it work.  or piney, woody, and touch of fruity...  gotta get me some more of that.
2) avery's maharaja: ol' dependable.
3) stone's double bastard: not your typically hoppy beer but that spicy chinook hop really scratched the itch for me.
4) bell's two-hearted ale: dunno if this was a bad batch, or it wasn't handled properly, but it didn't have the usual kick.  it was a disappointment: the "bottled on" date was less than two weeks so i was expecting an explosion of centennial... but it was lacking.  this was my first time having it in a bottle so maybe it's just better on tap.
5) lagunitas maximus: to be avoided.  the price is low and you get what you pay for.  not horrible but not particularly good either.  spend a few dollars more on something better.

damn, first bottle of two hearted? I went through a small porter/stoudt run this winter, but basically all I want to drink are IPAs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 02:32:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 01:28:22 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 12:55:49 pm
I am trying to make my first lager.  Hopefully the corner of my basement is cold enough.

a carboy sitting on my basement's cement floor settles at 57-58*F.  ideally yours is a tad cooler, since you want to be under 55*F for most lager yeasts if you want to make a true, crisp lager.

if you're above the ideal range, the beer will have more esters & other "non-clean" flavors.  you'll be making a steam beer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_beer).

do you have a fridge for lagering once fermentation is done?

I am using Saflager S-23 yeast which states 51 to 59 degrees.  Hopefully it turns out Ok.  it is interesting article about the Steam Beer.  I see some lagers yeast have to be around 48 degree range.  How do you get a fridge that keeps a beer at that temperature. 

When I get back from vacation I am going to try my hand at all grain brewing. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 02:33:59 pm
http://flyingdogales.com/blog/brewery-news/ (http://flyingdogales.com/blog/brewery-news/)

Girl Scout cookie and beer pairings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 20, 2013, 02:35:05 pm
You boys can keep your heavy hops! YUCK!!!

Had a couple Heavy Seas Peg Legs last week which I really liked. Nothing to gush over but an all around good tasting and easy to drink beer.

(http://www.hsbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/peg-leg-121x470.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 20, 2013, 02:40:20 pm
Hope Bluejacket will be as good as it sounds.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/craft-brewery-with-built-in-dreams/2013/02/15/fa81f610-7609-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/craft-brewery-with-built-in-dreams/2013/02/15/fa81f610-7609-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 03:03:21 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on February 20, 2013, 02:35:05 pm
You boys can keep your heavy hops! YUCK!!!


I am not a fan of beers with a lot of Hops.  I now feel that drinking an IPA is the same thing as eating salted Cod.  We have refrigerators now we don't have to ruin the flavor of food and drinks by preserving them by putting too much salt or hops in them. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 03:08:28 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 02:32:06 pm
I see some lagers yeast have to be around 48 degree range.  How do you get a fridge that keeps a beer at that temperature. 

you control the fridge through a controller, like a johnson A419 (link (http://www.pexsupply.com/Johnson-Controls-A419ABC-1C-Single-Stage-Digital-Temperature-Control-120-240v-SPDT)) or a ranco ETC (link (http://www.pexsupply.com/Ranco-ETC-111000-Single-Stage-ETC-Temperature-Control-w-Sensor-120-240V-Input-11627000-p)).   the controller has a probe that you stick either inside the beer or tapped & insulated against the outside of your carboy/bucket.  you plug your fridge into the controller, and it turns the fridge on whenever your beer gets above a certain temp.  so for fermentation you would set it at 55*F, or 48*F, or whatever, then raise the temp a few degrees for your end-of-fermentation D-rest, then crash it down to just above freezing for your 4-6 week (or more) lagering phase.

Quote from: slappy on February 20, 2013, 02:40:20 pm
Hope Bluejacket will be as good as it sounds.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/craft-brewery-with-built-in-dreams/2013/02/15/fa81f610-7609-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/craft-brewery-with-built-in-dreams/2013/02/15/fa81f610-7609-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html)

wow, that does sound promising.  fingers crossed.

Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 03:03:21 pm
I now feel that drinking an IPA is the same thing as eating salted Cod.  We have refrigerators now we don't have to ruin the flavor of food and drinks by preserving them by putting too much salt or hops in them. 

some people really like salt, and can taste the difference between different kinds of salt.  same with hops.  but fair enough if hops aren't your thing.  more of them for us!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 20, 2013, 03:21:55 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 02:32:06 pm
How do you get a fridge that keeps a beer at that temperature. 

you can buy a power controller.  you plug your fridge into a the thermostat unit, and the thermostat has a thermometer that is placed inside the fridge.  you set your desired temperature, and power will be provided to the fridge to cool if it's greater than the desired temperature.  when it's at or below, power is cut off.

i own this guy - http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/johnson-refrigerator-thermostat.html

edit - just realized sweetcell beat me to it

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 20, 2013, 03:43:08 pm
Screw the hoppy IPA, hoppy barleywines are where it's at. Drink them fresh and hoppy, or let them age nicely.

The Mad Fox Barleywine Festival is this weekend. We went last year, was fun, if a little pricey.

Beer List
Updated January 9, 2013, with 30 Barleywines already on hand! More information on sessions and tasting notes, when available, on our Mad Fox Barleywine Festival 2013 Session page. See last year's Mad Fox Barleywine Festival 2012 Session page.

On hand:

?Mad Fox Headcracker English-style Barleywine 2012 Draught 8% ABV
?Mad Fox Slobberknocker American-style Barleywine 2012 Draught 9% ABV
?Mad Fox Oaked Slobberknocker American-style Barleywine 2011 Draught 9% ABV
?21st Amendment Lower DeBoom Barleywine 2012 Draught 10.5% ABV
?Avery Hog Heaven Barleywine 2011 Draught 9.2% ABV
?Bell's Third Coast Old Ale 2012 Draught 10.2% ABV
?Brooklyn Brewing Monster Ale 2011 Draught 10.3% ABV
?DuClaw Devil's Milk Barleywine 2012 Draught 10% ABV
?Duck Rabbit Barleywine 2012 11% ABV
?Flying Dog Horn Dog Barleywine 10.2% ABV
?Great Divide Old Ruffian Barleywine 2012 Draught 10.2% ABV
?Green Flash Barleywine 2011 Draught 10.9% ABV
?Heavy Seas Below Decks English-style Barleywine 2010 Draught 10% ABV
?Heavy Seas Below Decks English-style Barleywine Cabernet Barrel-aged 2012 Cask 10% ABV
?JW Lees Harvest Ale Draught 11.5% ABV
?Left Hand Widdershins Barleywine Draught 2011 10% ABV
?Legend Barleywine 2011 15.5% ABV
?Legend Barleywine 2012 15.5% ABV
?Old Dominion Millenium Ale 2011 Draught 10.5% ABV
?Old Dominion Millenium Ale 2012 Draught 10.5% ABV
?Rogue Old Crusty Barleywine 2011 Draught 11.5% ABV
?Rogue Old Crusty Barleywine 2012 Draught 11.5% ABV
?Sierra Nevada Bigfoot 2012 Draught 9.6% ABV
?Southern Tier Back Burner Imperial Barleywine 2012 Draught 9.6% ABV
?Stone Old Guardian Barleywine 2012 Draught 11% ABV
?Uinta Anniversary Barleywine 2011 Draught 10.4%
?Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot Barleywine 2011 Draught 11.1% ABV
?Weyerbacher Insanity Ale 2011 Draught 11.1% ABV
?Widmer Galaxy Barleywine 2011 9.6% ABV
?Williamsburg Alewerks Grand Illumination American Barleywine 2011 Draught 11% ABV

http://madfoxbrewing.com/barleywine-festival-2013
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 03:46:54 pm
Thanks to sweetcell and stevewizzle for the fridge thing information.  This brewing beer thing can turn out to be expensive. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 20, 2013, 03:47:29 pm
REAL men appreciate the beauty of a 40+ woman, and the beauty of a hoppy beer.
 ;)
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 03:03:21 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on February 20, 2013, 02:35:05 pm
You boys can keep your heavy hops! YUCK!!!


I am not a fan of beers with a lot of Hops.  I now feel that drinking an IPA is the same thing as eating salted Cod.  We have refrigerators now we don't have to ruin the flavor of food and drinks by preserving them by putting too much salt or hops in them. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 20, 2013, 03:52:12 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 03:46:54 pm
Thanks to sweetcell and stevewizzle for the fridge thing information.  This brewing beer thing can turn out to be expensive. 

yeah man.  it's like being an audiophile i imagine, you can get away with the basics, but you're always looking to improve your system or process, even if it's the slightest bit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 20, 2013, 03:53:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 20, 2013, 03:47:29 pm
REAL men appreciate the beauty of a 40+ woman, and the beauty of a hoppy beer.
 ;)
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 03:03:21 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on February 20, 2013, 02:35:05 pm
You boys can keep your heavy hops! YUCK!!!


I am not a fan of beers with a lot of Hops.  I now feel that drinking an IPA is the same thing as eating salted Cod.  We have refrigerators now we don't have to ruin the flavor of food and drinks by preserving them by putting too much salt or hops in them. 

I understand that as you get older, you lose the ability to detect bitterness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 04:26:47 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 03:46:54 pm
Thanks to sweetcell and stevewizzle for the fridge thing information.  This brewing beer thing can turn out to be expensive. 

heh, it's partially your own fault: you've jumped off the deep end by doing a lager, which are relatively more complicated than ales.  i haven't brewed lagers yet because i lack the equipment, notably a temp-controlled fridge (but i do look forward to the day i can make my own doppelbock - someday, maybe...)

ales are much more forgiving in terms of temp requirements.  i get away with using ice baths ("swamp cooler") to cool in summer and a $25 heat belt on a lamp timer in winter.

if you go the steam beer route (lager yeast at higher/ale temps) then you don't need to worry about temp control quite as much but the beer won't quite have the clean crispness of a true lager.  it will still make tasty beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 04:34:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 04:26:47 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 03:46:54 pm
Thanks to sweetcell and stevewizzle for the fridge thing information.  This brewing beer thing can turn out to be expensive. 

heh, it's partially your own fault: you've jumped off the deep end by doing a lager, which are relatively more complicated than ales.  i haven't brewed lagers yet because i lack the equipment, notably a temp-controlled fridge (but i do look forward to the day i can make my own doppelbock - someday, maybe...)

ales are much more forgiving in terms of temp requirements.  i get away with using ice baths ("swamp cooler") to cool in summer and a $25 heat belt on a lamp timer in winter.

if you go the steam beer route (lager yeast at higher/ale temps) then you don't need to worry about temp control quite as much but the beer won't quite have the clean crispness of a true lager.  it will still make tasty beer.

Yeah I guess the good thing about making beer is even the ones that don't turn out the best will still be better than the beer most people drink and will still give you a nice buzz.

I was also thinking about the stuff I need for all grain.  Mash Tun, 8 gallon pot, cooling coil.. and then i will want something to grind my grains. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 20, 2013, 05:15:38 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on February 20, 2013, 04:34:08 pm
I was also thinking about the stuff I need for all grain.  Mash Tun, 8 gallon pot, cooling coil.. and then i will want something to grind my grains. 

cooling coil (AKA immersion chiller) is a really nice thing to have, but i made so without one for my first few batches.  fill a tub with cold water, let the hot pot cool in that, then dump the water and refill this time adding ice, and let that cool your wort.  at the end, dump some sanitized ice in to get those last few degrees (sanitize the container, use pure filtered water).  it's a pain and takes a while but it works.  you can also make yourself an immersion chiller, check out youtube.  i didn't find it a whole lot cheaper than buying one, but i didn't shop around much and i was impatient.

with regards to a mill, you can order your grains pre-milled if you buy them online, or most local shops have a mill (myLHBS will mill but you need to phone in the order and give them some time to do it, you can't do it yourself).  i go over to a buddy's house and use his mill.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 21, 2013, 12:25:32 pm
I was thinking last night that beer was like child birth.  In that it is sort of like a miracle. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 21, 2013, 12:42:16 pm
Tell that to my wife and watch her kick you in the nuts.

Quote from: atomicfront on February 21, 2013, 12:25:32 pm
I was thinking last night that beer was like child birth.  In that it is sort of like a miracle. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 21, 2013, 01:50:26 pm
Two companies own 210 brands of beer (http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/02/19/172323211/beer-map-two-giant-brewers-210-brands?sc=emaf)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 21, 2013, 01:57:17 pm
Quote from: grateful on February 21, 2013, 01:50:26 pm
Two companies own 210 brands of beer (http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/02/19/172323211/beer-map-two-giant-brewers-210-brands?sc=emaf)



Yeah, but fortunately with beer there are 1000's not owned by them. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 21, 2013, 02:30:57 pm
Two companies producing 95% of the beer consumed in America, and thousands of companies producing 5% of the beer consumed in America.

Sort of like the unequal distribution of wealth in America.

Quote from: atomicfront on February 21, 2013, 01:57:17 pm
Quote from: grateful on February 21, 2013, 01:50:26 pm
Two companies own 210 brands of beer (http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/02/19/172323211/beer-map-two-giant-brewers-210-brands?sc=emaf)



Yeah, but fortunately with beer there are 1000's not owned by them. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on February 22, 2013, 08:42:22 am
http://dcbeerfestival.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 22, 2013, 10:32:57 am
Quote from: Shemp on February 22, 2013, 08:42:22 am
http://dcbeerfestival.com/

That has disaster written all over it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 22, 2013, 01:20:18 pm
Quote from: grateful on February 22, 2013, 10:32:57 am
Quote from: Shemp on February 22, 2013, 08:42:22 am
http://dcbeerfestival.com/

That has disaster written all over it.

it's a traveling circus.  they do it all over, here's reviews from the LA one: http://www.yelp.com/biz/la-beer-festival-culver-city
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 22, 2013, 01:38:32 pm
If the beers below impress you, then by all mean go.

But if you:

a. detest crowds of drunk mainstream twentysomethings or
b. have better beer in your basement

then don't go.

Here are some of the beers that the breweries are bringing...
Smuttynose: Old Brown Dog, Finest Kind IPA
Victory: Headwaters Pale Ale, SwingSessions Saison
Devils Backbone: Vienna, Eight Point, Congo, Schwartz Bier
Troegs: Perpetual IPA, Troegenator Doublebock, Dreamweaver, Wheat, Hopback Amber
Widmer: Pitch Black, O'Reilly Rotator, Hef, Columbia Commons
Redhook: Pilsner, Audible, Longhammer
Kona: Koko Brown, Longboard, Firerock
Omission: Lager, Pale Ale
Goose Island: Summertime, Honkers
Shock Top: Lemon Shandy, Apple Crisp
Bold Rock Cider: VA Apple, VA Draft
Boulder Beer: Hazed and Infused, Mojo, Sweaty Betty




Quote from: stevewizzle on February 22, 2013, 01:20:18 pm
Quote from: grateful on February 22, 2013, 10:32:57 am
Quote from: Shemp on February 22, 2013, 08:42:22 am
http://dcbeerfestival.com/

That has disaster written all over it.

it's a traveling circus.  they do it all over, here's reviews from the LA one: http://www.yelp.com/biz/la-beer-festival-culver-city

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 22, 2013, 02:08:22 pm
Just went on a hell of a beer run. Picked up Boulevard Rye on Rye, Nugget Nectar, Bell's Black Note, and AleWerks Bitter Valentine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 22, 2013, 02:37:31 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 22, 2013, 02:08:22 pm
Just went on a hell of a beer run. Picked up Boulevard Rye on Rye, Nugget Nectar, Bell's Black Note, and AleWerks Bitter Valentine.
where?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 22, 2013, 02:49:59 pm
Quote from: brennser on February 22, 2013, 02:37:31 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 22, 2013, 02:08:22 pm
Just went on a hell of a beer run. Picked up Boulevard Rye on Rye, Nugget Nectar, Bell's Black Note, and AleWerks Bitter Valentine.
where?

I should note within the last 24 hours. Went to Village Pump and Rodman's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 22, 2013, 04:14:29 pm
yeah, Rodmans has black note but 1 bottle per person limit right
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 22, 2013, 04:30:14 pm
Quote from: brennser on February 22, 2013, 04:14:29 pm
yeah, Rodmans has black note but 1 bottle per person limit right

Yep. Village Pump had Nectar ($11.99/sixer) and Rye on Rye ($8.99).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 22, 2013, 11:39:25 pm
Quote from: brennser on February 22, 2013, 04:14:29 pm
yeah, Rodmans has black note but 1 bottle per person limit right

"had" - sold out when i dropped by on my way home from work.  what a disappointment.

instead i picked up:
- FW Double Jack (solid IIPA, first time trying it)
- Troegs Nugget Nectar (very tasty, as always, my first of the year)
- FW Wookie Jack (i told y'all i'd be getting more)
- Avery Czar
- Van Honsebrouck Brigand (on sale for $6.99 - paging smakawhat)
- another 09.09.09 12.12.12 for the cellar (corrected, i had the 09.09.09 on my mind because i bottled my clone of that beer last night)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 23, 2013, 12:01:38 pm
had nugget nectar and hopslam on draft at black squirrel last night.

nugget nectar was the better of the two, imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 23, 2013, 03:30:30 pm
Had the St. Joseph's Tripel at DC Brau today.

Very nice tripel, definite improvement over the Ghouls Night Out quad they just did. Brought home a growler.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 26, 2013, 10:48:50 pm
so i'm drinking a beer from the mad fox brewery near here in falls chuch, va... diabolik.. tapped today.. i took my growler to take advantage of the half price deal

i just can't drink this beer. .. what am i doing wrong or what is the deal... i feel like my upper chest has this big bubble pushing up on it or something if that makes any sense..

i don't mind the taste just don't know what i should have trouble drinking a beer?

HELP

signed,
troubled and pained beer drinker in arlington
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 26, 2013, 10:54:45 pm
Looks like someone sold you some mediocre beer. Other than their excellent orange whip IPA, i've found all their beers to be mediocre.


http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/mad-fox-diabolik-belgian-strong-ale/136815/

Quote from: hutch on February 26, 2013, 10:48:50 pm
so i'm drinking a beer from the mad fox brewery near here in falls chuch, va... diabolik.. tapped today.. i took my growler to take advantage of the half price deal

i just can't drink this beer. .. what am i doing wrong or what is the deal... i feel like my upper chest has this big bubble pushing up on it or something if that makes any sense..

i don't mind the taste just don't know what i should have trouble drinking a beer?

HELP

signed,
troubled and pained beer drinker in arlington
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 27, 2013, 10:04:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 26, 2013, 10:54:45 pm
Looks like someone sold you some mediocre beer. Other than their excellent orange whip IPA, i've found all their beers to be mediocre.


http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/mad-fox-diabolik-belgian-strong-ale/136815/

Quote from: hutch on February 26, 2013, 10:48:50 pm
so i'm drinking a beer from the mad fox brewery near here in falls chuch, va... diabolik.. tapped today.. i took my growler to take advantage of the half price deal

i just can't drink this beer. .. what am i doing wrong or what is the deal... i feel like my upper chest has this big bubble pushing up on it or something if that makes any sense..

i don't mind the taste just don't know what i should have trouble drinking a beer?

HELP

signed,
troubled and pained beer drinker in arlington

not talking about the taste dude...talking about having your esophagus almost swell shut..

i've had this happen before with some beers...

for the record i really like the mad fox place...great burgers... and some of their beers are up my alley (defender american pale ale for example)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 27, 2013, 10:06:19 am
found some of this the other day . . . better be good, for what i paid for it

(http://www.holidaywinecellar.com/images/Product/large/24449.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 27, 2013, 10:11:32 am
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/budweiser-waters-down-its-beer-lawsuit-alleges-1C8566405
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 27, 2013, 10:50:03 am
Quote from: hutch on February 27, 2013, 10:04:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 26, 2013, 10:54:45 pm
Looks like someone sold you some mediocre beer. Other than their excellent orange whip IPA, i've found all their beers to be mediocre.


http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/mad-fox-diabolik-belgian-strong-ale/136815/

Quote from: hutch on February 26, 2013, 10:48:50 pm
so i'm drinking a beer from the mad fox brewery near here in falls chuch, va... diabolik.. tapped today.. i took my growler to take advantage of the half price deal

i just can't drink this beer. .. what am i doing wrong or what is the deal... i feel like my upper chest has this big bubble pushing up on it or something if that makes any sense..

i don't mind the taste just don't know what i should have trouble drinking a beer?

HELP

signed,
troubled and pained beer drinker in arlington

not talking about the taste dude...talking about having your esophagus almost swell shut..

i've had this happen before with some beers...

for the record i really like the mad fox place...great burgers... and some of their beers are up my alley (defender american pale ale for example)

does this often happen with belgian-style beers?

diabolik, a belgian strong, will have a higher content of phenols and esters, mostly due to the yeast used.  a place like mad fox may let more yeast sediment stay in there beer.  i doubt they filtered this, since the cloudy color is often preferred with belgian styles. you're likely drinking a higher content of phenols, esters, and yeast in this beer.

so for health effects...

an allergy to the esters, or ethyl acetate, will cause digestive issues.  probably not your issue.

for phenols... there's probably a book to write about phenols and their potential effects.  i'd imagine your issue lies with the high phenol content, but then again, you ingest plenty of phenols from other sources (fruits, vegetables, etc).

i'm not incredibly well-versed in the health effects of beer, but i'd steer clear of the belgians.  or watch the effects closely.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 27, 2013, 11:24:07 am
yeah, i was thinking the same thing - reaction/allergy to the yeast or its by-products.

do you drink belgian beers regularly?  do they have this effect on you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 27, 2013, 11:45:17 am
I had a Weistephaner Hefeweizen last night that left me eeling like I had a brick in my stomach.  :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 27, 2013, 12:08:18 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 22, 2013, 01:38:32 pm
If the beers below impress you, then by all mean go.

But if you:

a. detest crowds of drunk mainstream twentysomethings or
b. have better beer in your basement

then don't go.

Here are some of the beers that the breweries are bringing...
Smuttynose: Old Brown Dog, Finest Kind IPA
Victory: Headwaters Pale Ale, SwingSessions Saison
Devils Backbone: Vienna, Eight Point, Congo, Schwartz Bier
Troegs: Perpetual IPA, Troegenator Doublebock, Dreamweaver, Wheat, Hopback Amber
Widmer: Pitch Black, O'Reilly Rotator, Hef, Columbia Commons
Redhook: Pilsner, Audible, Longhammer
Kona: Koko Brown, Longboard, Firerock
Omission: Lager, Pale Ale
Goose Island: Summertime, Honkers
Shock Top: Lemon Shandy, Apple Crisp
Bold Rock Cider: VA Apple, VA Draft
Boulder Beer: Hazed and Infused, Mojo, Sweaty Betty

Looking at that list gave me the realization inBev has made it nice to pick up decent beers during a Wizards/Caps game at VC.
Redhook, Kona, Goose Island, Kona, Shock Top are all on draft.
Wasn't long ago it was just Bud/Coors/Miller.
Now you can also get inBev Belgium selections - Leffe, Hoegaarden, Stella Artois, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 27, 2013, 12:26:50 pm
Quote from: slappy on February 27, 2013, 12:08:18 pm
Looking at that list gave me the realization inBev has made it nice to pick up decent beers during a Wizards/Caps game at VC.
Redhook, Kona, Goose Island, Kona, Shock Top are all on draft.
Wasn't long ago it was just Bud/Coors/Miller.
Now you can also get inBev Belgium selections - Leffe, Hoegaarden, Stella Artois, etc.

Call me when they have Russian River on tap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 27, 2013, 06:47:03 pm
Quote from: grateful on February 27, 2013, 12:26:50 pm

Call me when they have Russian River on tap.

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2013, 01:35:55 am
another upcoming DC brewery: Atlas Brew Works

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2012/12/10/d-c-s-next-brewery-atlas-brew-works/

http://dcist.com/2012/12/atlas_brew_works_coming_to_northeas.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2013, 09:21:58 am
I don't drink Belgians too much.

This Diabolik doesn't work with me.. I must be allergic to something in it..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 28, 2013, 09:54:21 am
I wonder if these guys will sue them over the name. Can't they be a little more original?


http://www.atlasbeercompany.com/


Quote from: sweetcell on February 28, 2013, 01:35:55 am
another upcoming DC brewery: Atlas Brew Works

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2012/12/10/d-c-s-next-brewery-atlas-brew-works/

http://dcist.com/2012/12/atlas_brew_works_coming_to_northeas.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on February 28, 2013, 10:35:15 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 28, 2013, 01:35:55 am
another upcoming DC brewery: Atlas Brew Works

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2012/12/10/d-c-s-next-brewery-atlas-brew-works/

http://dcist.com/2012/12/atlas_brew_works_coming_to_northeas.php

I drive by this every day on my way to work and have been checking it out.  It seems to be coming along pretty nicely.  Right around the corner from the distillery that opened a few months back and really not far from DC Brau; strange to think we didn't have any of this stuff in DC not long ago.

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to it, especially if they do make a foray into sour beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2013, 06:54:05 pm
Conservatives and liberals drink different beer
The new science of ideology extends to consumer choices, showing how unconscious our political viewpoints are
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/27/conservatives_and_lilberals_drink_different_beer_partner/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2013, 07:29:59 pm
amazing..for two decades DC didn't have one brewery..now a new one opens up every week....


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 28, 2013, 08:02:05 pm
you could say the same thing about wine and virginia, from 10 years ago to now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2013, 08:13:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on February 28, 2013, 08:02:05 pm
you could say the same thing about wine and virginia, from 10 years ago to now.

well I went to the a wine festival in Virginia somewhere off 66..they still do it.. we went there about 15 years ago and it was full of virginia wine growers...from when I first set foot in Virginia back in 89 I knew that Virginia produced wine...


but DC ..I don't think they've had a brewery in decades..even FOggy BOttom Ale I think was produced elsewhere although considered the local beer..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 28, 2013, 10:23:39 pm
We have a wine bar in Berlin that sells only Maryland wines. A nice little place and I like the concept, except that I've yet had a Maryland wine that I've liked. They do much, much better with their beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 01, 2013, 06:10:13 pm
Dogfish Head Craft Brewery Presents
The Feelies
Wed 3/27
930 Club

on draft that night (and that night only, i suspect)
60 Minute IPA
Aprihop
Rhizing Bines
90 Minute IPA
Burton Baton
Sixty-One
Raison D'Etre
Chicory Stout
Midas Touch  -
http://www.dogfish.com/community/events/happening/47646/dfh-presents-the-feelies.htm

rhizing bines and burton baton should make for a hoppy evening. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 01, 2013, 06:15:25 pm
Flying Dog Brewery Presents "Festival De Cans" with
Escort
Thu 3/28

FD will be unveiling the first version of Natural Selection Ale, a collab with Evolution Brewing. http://flyingdogales.com/blog/brewery-news/

"Each participating brewery will also serve their canned beer selections, some of which is not typically available in Washington, DC."
http://www.thebarleyblog.com/2013/flying-dog-presents-festival-de-cans-a-craft-beer-and-film-festival/

they'll be showing a movie and "classic beer commercials".  Escort to go on at 10.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 04, 2013, 11:51:47 am
on saturday night brennser graciously hosted a bottle-sharing party at his place.  during the course of the evening we enjoyed:

- a taste-off between the two versions of International Arms Race, a gruit made by both Flying Dog and Brewdog.  there was no clear consensus on who's version was better, but folks did agree that these were less than mind-blowing.  file under "interesting and glad i tried... somebody else's bottle" ;D  the provider of these bottles was tom, the editor of http://americancraftbeer.com/. 

- james ford brought what was arguably the highlight of the night: a 2 year-old Deschutes' The Dissident (http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brew/dissident).  i'm not a sour guy so the fact that this might have been my fav is really saying something.  for kicks, check out the review by"BrewSnob" on the first page of BA (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/63/44409).  Ford also brought a Zombie Dust and another pale ale that escapes me at the moment.

- stevewizzle brought it strong with his homebrewed chocolate stout, a small growler of DC Brau Colliding Hemispheres (a just-released dark "IPA"), and a Sam Adams 2011 Infinium (a belgian strong that i thoroughly enjoyed).

- brennser has an amazing cellar, it seems that every time we mentioned a style he'd ask if we'd like another version.  sour?  he returned with a Russian River Supplication (which we chose over the Beatification).  Stout?  he produced Upright Brewing's Oyster Stout (mmm, salty).  IPA?  out came a Pliny the Elder (the nose... the nose!), then backed that up with a Marin White Knuckle.  etc.

- my contributions were a bomber of my Mosaic IPA (again, well received) and a Chimay Spéciale Cent Cinquante (this limited release was the abbey's first new recipe in something like 50 years).

i'm sure i'm forgetting some... gents, please chime in.  this was easily the biggest & best assortment of beers i have ever had in one sitting.  although we were only getting 2-3 oz pours of each one, i was feeling pretty damn toasty by the end. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 04, 2013, 12:14:08 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on February 28, 2013, 10:23:39 pm
We have a wine bar in Berlin that sells only Maryland wines. A nice little place and I like the concept, except that I've yet had a Maryland wine that I've liked. They do much, much better with their beers.

Have you tried Black Ankle?  Their Passegiata is really great.  Their wine is expensive, but it's the only MD wine I really like.  Their vineyard is really beautiful too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 04, 2013, 12:20:13 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on February 28, 2013, 10:23:39 pm
We have a wine bar in Berlin that sells only Maryland wines. A nice little place and I like the concept, except that I've yet had a Maryland wine that I've liked. They do much, much better with their beers.

some friends are big fans of Sugarloaf Mountain Vineyard, http://www.smvwinery.com/.  i've only tried them twice but both times were solid.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 04, 2013, 12:38:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 04, 2013, 11:51:47 am
for kicks, check out the review by"BrewSnob" on the first page of BA (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/63/44409).  Ford also brought a Zombie Dust and another pale ale that escapes me at the moment.

i'm about 95% certain BrewSnob is @dadboner.  at the very least, a @dadboner copycat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on March 04, 2013, 12:48:38 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 28, 2013, 08:13:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on February 28, 2013, 08:02:05 pm
you could say the same thing about wine and virginia, from 10 years ago to now.

well I went to the a wine festival in Virginia somewhere off 66..they still do it.. we went there about 15 years ago and it was full of virginia wine growers...from when I first set foot in Virginia back in 89 I knew that Virginia produced wine...

"A renewed effort to grow a European Chardonnay succeeded at the Waverly Estate in Middleburg in 1973. Then in 1976, Italian pioneer vintner Gianni Zonin hired Gabriele Rausse to grow and harvest vinifera grapes near Charlottesville. He established Barboursville Vineyards and then helped other vineyards do the same. By 1995, Virginia had 46 wineries."

http://www.virginiawine.org/learn/wine-history/ (http://www.virginiawine.org/learn/wine-history/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 05, 2013, 08:26:59 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 04, 2013, 11:51:47 am
on saturday night brennser graciously hosted a bottle-sharing party at his place.  during the course of the evening we enjoyed: 

sweetcell and stevewizzles homebrews deserve a special shout out - they more than held their own against what was a pretty stellar lineup
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 05, 2013, 10:27:30 am
and while I think our tasting was indeed stellar check out the bottle list neing brought to smoke and barrel this saturday afternoon

Let me know if I missed anything:

1.Jacewg (Rodenbach Caractere Rouge; Jackie O's BB Oil of Aphrodite)
2.Instantmessinger (Surly Darkness; Surly Abrasive/Pentagram)
3.rhefter (Lost Abbey Grand Cru 2010; Sinner's Blend 2010; Schlafly Reserve Barleywine)
4.CoastieSimon (Cigar City Hunahpu's; Pegs RareR DOS 2012)
5.starrdogg (Black Raven Old Birdbrain; Hills Farmstead Vera Mae)
6.smakawhat (Hills Farmstead Flora; Goose Island Cherry Rye)
7.IrishColonial (???)
8.jaheussner (Barrel Aged Speedway Stout; Alchemist Heady Topper)
9.dctriman (Lost Abbey Serpent's Stout; Sierra Nevada BA Bigfoot)
10.AleToTheVictors (???)
11.werthsoccer (New Glarus Raspberry Tart; Dechutes Abyss / Black BUtte XXIV / Upright Lake Harvest)
12.Jtc2811 (Goose Island BCBCS; Event Horizon / Westy XII)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 05, 2013, 10:52:05 am
Meh, ours was better!
 ;D


Quote from: brennser on March 05, 2013, 10:27:30 am
and while I think our tasting was indeed stellar check out the bottle list neing brought to smoke and barrel this saturday afternoon

Let me know if I missed anything:

1.Jacewg (Rodenbach Caractere Rouge; Jackie O's BB Oil of Aphrodite)
2.Instantmessinger (Surly Darkness; Surly Abrasive/Pentagram)
3.rhefter (Lost Abbey Grand Cru 2010; Sinner's Blend 2010; Schlafly Reserve Barleywine)
4.CoastieSimon (Cigar City Hunahpu's; Pegs RareR DOS 2012)
5.starrdogg (Black Raven Old Birdbrain; Hills Farmstead Vera Mae)
6.smakawhat (Hills Farmstead Flora; Goose Island Cherry Rye)
7.IrishColonial (???)
8.jaheussner (Barrel Aged Speedway Stout; Alchemist Heady Topper)
9.dctriman (Lost Abbey Serpent's Stout; Sierra Nevada BA Bigfoot)
10.AleToTheVictors (???)
11.werthsoccer (New Glarus Raspberry Tart; Dechutes Abyss / Black BUtte XXIV / Upright Lake Harvest)
12.Jtc2811 (Goose Island BCBCS; Event Horizon / Westy XII)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 05, 2013, 10:53:14 am
The perfect size bottle for a beer tasting group, otherwise I'm not a fan at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/dining/craft-beers-trend-toward-larger-bottles-causes-a-stir.html

Craft Beer?s Larger Aspirations Cause a Stir
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 05, 2013, 03:58:16 pm
churchkey is going to be the death of me...


Highland Brewing Company Comes to Washington: Official Launch Party w/ a Bevy of Drafts & Casks + Meet Founder Oscar Wong
Tuesday, March 5th at 6PM

Heavy Seas the Big DIPA Oak Cask Tapping: Taste the very 1st Trial Run of this Brew from a Wooden Firkin
Tuesday, March 12th at 4PM

The Official DC Debut of Perennial Artisan Ales from St. Louis: 5 Delicious Rarities on Draft
Tuesday, March 19th at 6PM

The Craft Brewers Conference Beer & Food Experience + Draft & Casks Feature from 8 Different Craft Brewers
Monday, March 25 7PM at Birch & Barley / 6PM at ChurchKey

The Great American Saison Draft Feature: Outstanding Farmhouse Drafts from 12 Craft Brewers
Tuesday, March 26 at ChurchKey at 4PM

20 Sensational Short's Brewing Company Brews on Tap
Tuesday, March 26 at ChurchKey at 4PM

The Debut of Bluejacket- Three Floyds- Revolution- Half Acre Collaboration Fistcal Cliff + Ample Drafts & Casks From Each Brewery
Wednesday, March 27 at ChurchKey at 4PM

North Carolina Craft Night at ChurchKey: 20 Killer Brews from 10 Breweries
Wednesday, March 27 at ChurchKey at 4 PM

The California Craft Beer Extravaganza
Thursday, March 28 at ChurchKey at 4PM

An Extraordinary Evening with Avery Brewing Company: 25 Drafts & Casks Including Rarities, Vintage Brews & Some Surprises
Friday, March 29 at ChurchKey at 4PM
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 05, 2013, 04:00:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 01, 2013, 06:15:25 pm
Flying Dog Brewery Presents "Festival De Cans" with
Escort
Thu 3/28

FD will be unveiling the first version of Natural Selection Ale, a collab with Evolution Brewing. http://flyingdogales.com/blog/brewery-news/

"Each participating brewery will also serve their canned beer selections, some of which is not typically available in Washington, DC."
http://www.thebarleyblog.com/2013/flying-dog-presents-festival-de-cans-a-craft-beer-and-film-festival/

they'll be showing a movie and "classic beer commercials".  Escort to go on at 10.

in case anyone was wondering who the "participating breweries" are:

    Flying Dog
    The Brewer?s Art
    Brooklyn
    DC Brau
    Golden Road
    Half Acre
    Maui
    New Belgium
    Oskar Blues
    Revolution
    Sierra Nevada
    Starr Hill

http://flyingdogales.com/landing-pages/festival-de-cans/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2013, 11:38:30 am
got a 4-pack of ommegang's abbye ale.  gawdam that's a solid dubbel.  high carbonation for 12 oz bottle.  really impressed.  even got them for $2 less because someone at World Market had mislabeled it.

also hit up Gilly's for the first time last night.  for folks caught in the fermentosphere's hinterland that is Montgomery County, it's a must-visit.  best selection in MoCo that i've seen.  prices are a little on the high side - a dollar or two more than you might find elsewhere.
http://www.gillyscbfw.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gillys-Craft-Beer-Fine-Wine/277747898928382
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 08, 2013, 11:45:48 am
Gilly's packs a lot in there for being so small....love the taps and the deli.  I knew I had landed when I saw their peanut butter and M&M sandwich right on the menu!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 08, 2013, 12:03:33 pm
Picked up a four pack of the new seasonal DIPA from Great Lakes Brewing, Alchemy Hour. Based on the reviews on ratebeer and beer advocate, I was expecting more. Not terrible, but terribly mediocre, pretty much like everything else they make. Very boozy and not alot of hoppiness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 08, 2013, 01:52:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 08, 2013, 12:03:33 pm
Picked up a four pack of the new seasonal DIPA from Great Lakes Brewing, Alchemy Hour. Based on the reviews on ratebeer and beer advocate, I was expecting more. Not terrible, but terribly mediocre, pretty much like everything else they make. Very boozy and not alot of hoppiness.
really? I quite liked it, and I love their Blackout Stout
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 08, 2013, 01:56:48 pm
Haven't had their Blackout Stout. Will have to try next time around.

I think maybe next time I will let the Alchemy Hour warm a bit and see if it improves.

They do have a fun tour if you ever have a reason to be in Cleveland. The brepub appeared to be pretty popular as well, though we ate elsewhere.


Quote from: brennser on March 08, 2013, 01:52:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 08, 2013, 12:03:33 pm
Picked up a four pack of the new seasonal DIPA from Great Lakes Brewing, Alchemy Hour. Based on the reviews on ratebeer and beer advocate, I was expecting more. Not terrible, but terribly mediocre, pretty much like everything else they make. Very boozy and not alot of hoppiness.
really? I quite liked it, and I love their Blackout Stout
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 08, 2013, 02:26:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 08, 2013, 11:38:30 am
got a 4-pack of ommegang's abbye ale.  gawdam that's a solid dubbel.  high carbonation for 12 oz bottle.  really impressed.  even got them for $2 less because someone at World Market had mislabeled it.

I love all their beer.  And the brewery is a REALLY great place to visit (not to mention near the baseball hall of fame!)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2013, 04:32:26 pm
ommegang makes some really good belgians, but the dubbel is way above expectations. 

i made a dubbel a few weeks ago and it will be bottled soon, so i bought this commercial version (the only one on offer) to calibrate my taste buds and know what to look for.  i'm afraid i've set the bar ridiculously high.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 08, 2013, 06:22:25 pm
When I was at the Cleveland airport last year, they had a Great Lakes brewpub. One of their taps was Blackout Xmas, which was a combo of their Blackout Stout and Christmas Ale. It was pretty damn tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on March 08, 2013, 06:26:50 pm
I had some super bock in portugal.  It was ok.  It seemed to be their one choice.  200 different ports but one beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 08, 2013, 06:40:28 pm
Quote from: grateful on March 08, 2013, 11:45:48 am
peanut butter and M&M sandwich

That sounds awful.  But I'll absolutely have to try it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 09, 2013, 02:50:38 pm
found a case of nugget nectar today.  was so excited.  also, founders all day ipa.  only bought a six pack of it because im not sure if ive had it before.  plus am on two lists for the kbs . . . heres hoping.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 09, 2013, 02:55:18 pm
had half of an all day ipa with dinner last night. tasted like water. glad i only ought a single.

Quote from: walkonby on March 09, 2013, 02:50:38 pm
found a case of nugget nectar today.  was so excited.  also, founders all day ipa.  only bought a six pack of it because im not sure if ive had it before.  plus am on two lists for the kbs . . . heres hoping.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 09, 2013, 03:03:55 pm
darn
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 09, 2013, 06:16:57 pm
Picked up a bunch of end of season 99 cent bottles at Total Wine today. Including Schlafly and Alewerks Coffee Stouts, Smuttynose Winter Ale, Sixpoint Diesel (16 oz cans).  Plus a $3.99 bottle of La Rulles Cuvee something or other Belgian holiday ale.Think the best had been picked over (the $3.99 Dupont Avec... was long gone), will have to watch closer next year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 11, 2013, 08:57:18 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 09, 2013, 02:55:18 pm
had half of an all day ipa with dinner last night. tasted like water. glad i only ought a single.

Quote from: walkonby on March 09, 2013, 02:50:38 pm
found a case of nugget nectar today.  was so excited.  also, founders all day ipa.  only bought a six pack of it because im not sure if ive had it before.  plus am on two lists for the kbs . . . heres hoping.

I agree... what a terrible beer. I'd rather drink a Budweiser.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 11, 2013, 09:50:08 am
Quote from: Yada on March 11, 2013, 08:57:18 am
I'd rather drink a Budweiser.

i personally don't care for budweiser, since it's inbev and fuck that and everything, but i don't blast others for drinking it and i see it has it's place on the market. but the ratebeer reviews of budweiser are simply amazing.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/budweiser/473/

"Can shared at a tasting at our place. Many thanks to my colleague Elad for fetching this at the 7-11 during the Lysosomal Disease World Symposium in Orlando - you made some people very happy!"

"330ml can with abv 4.5 % bought at local 7-Eleven."

"Absolute crap."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 11, 2013, 10:15:16 am
Finally got my hands on a Pliny the Elder- didn't think it was that special. Thought the Double jack was just as good.   That said, there is NOTHING like a Hopslam!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on March 11, 2013, 11:52:55 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 11, 2013, 09:50:08 am
Quote from: Yada on March 11, 2013, 08:57:18 am
I'd rather drink a Budweiser.

i personally don't care for budweiser, since it's inbev and fuck that and everything, but i don't blast others for drinking it and i see it has it's place on the market. but the ratebeer reviews of budweiser are simply amazing.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/budweiser/473/

"Can shared at a tasting at our place. Many thanks to my colleague Elad for fetching this at the 7-11 during the Lysosomal Disease World Symposium in Orlando - you made some people very happy!"

"330ml can with abv 4.5 % bought at local 7-Eleven."

"Absolute crap."

the one thing you can say positive about drinking a bud is at least you aren't drinking a bud light. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2013, 12:20:25 pm
Quote from: Bagley on March 11, 2013, 10:15:16 am
Finally got my hands on a Pliny the Elder- didn't think it was that special. Thought the Double jack was just as good.   That said, there is NOTHING like a Hopslam!

how fresh was the pliny?  hop-bombs like pliny are meant to be drunk as fresh as possible.  hops fade quickly in beer, even more so with over-the-top beers like pliny.

i had my first taste of pliny very recently (thanks brennser!) and while the taste met expectations it's the aroma that blew me away.  that beer had some serious DANK going on.  i didn't want to drink it, i just held the glass under my nose and huffed it.

this is the first year i've tried a hopslam and i wasn't that impressed.  it was a great DIPA/IIPA but nothing worthy of cult status.  i understand that this has been an off year for hopslam.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on March 11, 2013, 01:29:35 pm
For the first time, DC Brau's On The Wings Of Armageddon will be available in cans this Saturday (3/16) at the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 11, 2013, 01:32:08 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 11, 2013, 01:29:35 pm
For the first time, DC Brau's On The Wings Of Armageddon will be available in cans this Saturday (3/16) at the brewery.

worthwhile to make a trip.  any idea on price?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 11, 2013, 01:39:37 pm
That was my question. Will it be compare to the prices of four packs of Stone Ruination, FW Double Jack, Great Lakes Alchemy and Dogfish 90?

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 11, 2013, 01:32:08 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 11, 2013, 01:29:35 pm
For the first time, DC Brau's On The Wings Of Armageddon will be available in cans this Saturday (3/16) at the brewery.

worthwhile to make a trip.  any idea on price?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 11, 2013, 02:04:50 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 11, 2013, 01:29:35 pm
For the first time, DC Brau's On The Wings Of Armageddon will be available in cans this Saturday (3/16) at the brewery.

That place will be a mad house, but I want some!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 11, 2013, 03:38:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 11, 2013, 12:20:25 pm
Quote from: Bagley on March 11, 2013, 10:15:16 am
Finally got my hands on a Pliny the Elder- didn't think it was that special. Thought the Double jack was just as good.   That said, there is NOTHING like a Hopslam!

how fresh was the pliny?  hop-bombs like pliny are meant to be drunk as fresh as possible.  hops fade quickly in beer, even more so with over-the-top beers like pliny.

i had my first taste of pliny very recently (thanks brennser!) and while the taste met expectations it's the aroma that blew me away.  that beer had some serious DANK going on.  i didn't want to drink it, i just held the glass under my nose and huffed it.

this is the first year i've tried a hopslam and i wasn't that impressed.  it was a great DIPA/IIPA but nothing worthy of cult status.  i understand that this has been an off year for hopslam.

Bottling date on the Pliny was 1/29/13.... I think the "cult status" is more than justified for the Hopslam-the honey in the brewing process sets it apart from the rest of the field!!! 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 11, 2013, 03:57:42 pm
based on the pricing the last time it was available in growlers I imagine it will exceed all of those beers in price - heres hoping I'm pleasantly surprised otherwise

Quote from: James Ford on March 11, 2013, 01:39:37 pm
That was my question. Will it be compare to the prices of four packs of Stone Ruination, FW Double Jack, Great Lakes Alchemy and Dogfish 90?

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 11, 2013, 01:32:08 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 11, 2013, 01:29:35 pm
For the first time, DC Brau's On The Wings Of Armageddon will be available in cans this Saturday (3/16) at the brewery.

worthwhile to make a trip.  any idea on price?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 12, 2013, 02:35:57 pm
LivingSocial's BeerFest  (https://www.livingsocial.com/events/622986-livingsocial-s-beerfest)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on March 12, 2013, 03:20:54 pm
$17.99 per 6-pk (12oz cans)

Quote from: brennser on March 11, 2013, 03:57:42 pm
based on the pricing the last time it was available in growlers I imagine it will exceed all of those beers in price - heres hoping I'm pleasantly surprised otherwise

Quote from: James Ford on March 11, 2013, 01:39:37 pm
That was my question. Will it be compare to the prices of four packs of Stone Ruination, FW Double Jack, Great Lakes Alchemy and Dogfish 90?

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 11, 2013, 01:32:08 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 11, 2013, 01:29:35 pm
For the first time, DC Brau's On The Wings Of Armageddon will be available in cans this Saturday (3/16) at the brewery.

worthwhile to make a trip.  any idea on price?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 12, 2013, 04:22:49 pm
hmmmm, not as bad as I thought - still at the upper end of DIPAs but cheaper (and arguably better) than Hopslam

Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 12, 2013, 03:20:54 pm
$17.99 per 6-pk (12oz cans)

Quote from: brennser on March 11, 2013, 03:57:42 pm
based on the pricing the last time it was available in growlers I imagine it will exceed all of those beers in price - heres hoping I'm pleasantly surprised otherwise

Quote from: James Ford on March 11, 2013, 01:39:37 pm
That was my question. Will it be compare to the prices of four packs of Stone Ruination, FW Double Jack, Great Lakes Alchemy and Dogfish 90?

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 11, 2013, 01:32:08 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 11, 2013, 01:29:35 pm
For the first time, DC Brau's On The Wings Of Armageddon will be available in cans this Saturday (3/16) at the brewery.

worthwhile to make a trip.  any idea on price?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on March 12, 2013, 04:36:35 pm
Hopslam is good, but not worth $25 a six pack. The beer store on P Street in Dupont was selling one bottle for $8. For the money and taste, Lagunitas Sucks is the best DIPA out there...$9 a six pack.

Quote from: brennser on March 12, 2013, 04:22:49 pm
hmmmm, not as bad as I thought - still at the upper end of DIPAs but cheaper (and arguably better) than Hopslam

Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 12, 2013, 03:20:54 pm
$17.99 per 6-pk (12oz cans)

Quote from: brennser on March 11, 2013, 03:57:42 pm
based on the pricing the last time it was available in growlers I imagine it will exceed all of those beers in price - heres hoping I'm pleasantly surprised otherwise

Quote from: James Ford on March 11, 2013, 01:39:37 pm
That was my question. Will it be compare to the prices of four packs of Stone Ruination, FW Double Jack, Great Lakes Alchemy and Dogfish 90?

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 11, 2013, 01:32:08 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 11, 2013, 01:29:35 pm
For the first time, DC Brau's On The Wings Of Armageddon will be available in cans this Saturday (3/16) at the brewery.

worthwhile to make a trip.  any idea on price?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 12, 2013, 05:45:01 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 12, 2013, 04:36:35 pm
Hopslam is good, but not worth $25 a six pack. The beer store on P Street in Dupont was selling one bottle for $8. For the money and taste, Lagunitas Sucks is the best DIPA out there...$9 a six pack.

i like this guy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 12, 2013, 07:05:57 pm
Totally agree. Wish Sucks would go to year round ina six pack.

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 12, 2013, 05:45:01 pm
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on March 12, 2013, 04:36:35 pm
Hopslam is good, but not worth $25 a six pack. The beer store on P Street in Dupont was selling one bottle for $8. For the money and taste, Lagunitas Sucks is the best DIPA out there...$9 a six pack.

i like this guy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on March 12, 2013, 09:44:48 pm
Had a couple of these the other night at Seacrets. Not bad at all for $2.50 a can!

(http://www.thebeerspot.com/blogs/images/Leinie_Snowdrift_Vanilla_Porter.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 15, 2013, 02:19:39 pm
http://foodbeast.com/content/2013/03/14/bud-light-is-americas-top-selling-beer-sold-more-than-coors-light-and-budweiser-combined-last-year/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foodbeast+%28FOODBEAST%29
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on March 15, 2013, 03:40:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 15, 2013, 02:19:39 pm
http://foodbeast.com/content/2013/03/14/bud-light-is-americas-top-selling-beer-sold-more-than-coors-light-and-budweiser-combined-last-year/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foodbeast+%28FOODBEAST%29

I think coors light is worse than bud light though both are about as bad as beer can taste.  If you want to call a beverage made with rice and other additives beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 15, 2013, 03:54:11 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 05, 2013, 10:53:14 am
The perfect size bottle for a beer tasting group, otherwise I'm not a fan at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/dining/craft-beers-trend-toward-larger-bottles-causes-a-stir.html

Craft Beer?s Larger Aspirations Cause a Stir


response from garrett oliver, head brewer at brooklyn brewery:
http://www.craftbeer.com/brewers_banter/wine-ification-of-beer-article-just-sour-grapes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 15, 2013, 05:29:07 pm
This beer week in DC is turning out to be outrageous...

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/three-floyds-surly-assume-command-of-all-beer-taps-at-dupont-circle-on-328/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 15, 2013, 05:40:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 15, 2013, 05:29:07 pm
This beer week in DC is turning out to be outrageous...

seriously.  i fear that i'll be going out every night that week.  gotta grab it while ya can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 15, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
in case you have vegan friends over and wonder if you can serve them a given beer:
http://www.barnivore.com/beer

certain animal products, like gelatine and isinglass, can be used to clarify a beer so any brew that contains them shouldn't be served (technically there are only microscopic traces left in the finished product but most vegans will object to their use).  honey is also out for vegans.

or, alternately, get new friends ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 15, 2013, 07:13:35 pm
I sure picked the wrong week to take that Virgin Islands vacation. I'll be drinking Sierra Nevada products, if I'm lucky.

Quote from: Yada on March 15, 2013, 05:29:07 pm
This beer week in DC is turning out to be outrageous...

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/three-floyds-surly-assume-command-of-all-beer-taps-at-dupont-circle-on-328/


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 15, 2013, 11:28:02 pm
Had a successful tasting session last night: Heady Topper, Zombie Dust, Great Lakes Alchemy Hour, and BCBS Cherry Rye.

Kind of wish I didn't pour the Heady Topper into the glass. Tasted great but the appearance is, um, interesting. I actually enjoyed Zombie Dust the best over Heady and Alchemy Hour. Meanwhile, Cherry Rye is just perfection. Second time I've had it, and now super depressed that I kicked my last bottle. At least I have two bottles of BCBS Coffee still in the cellar (aka my bedroom closet).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 16, 2013, 11:42:09 am
At what point in the proceedings did you pass out?

 :o
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 15, 2013, 11:28:02 pm
Had a successful tasting session last night: Heady Topper, Zombie Dust, Great Lakes Alchemy Hour, and BCBS Cherry Rye.

Kind of wish I didn't pour the Heady Topper into the glass. Tasted great but the appearance is, um, interesting. I actually enjoyed Zombie Dust the best over Heady and Alchemy Hour. Meanwhile, Cherry Rye is just perfection. Second time I've had it, and now super depressed that I kicked my last bottle. At least I have two bottles of BCBS Coffee still in the cellar (aka my bedroom closet).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on March 16, 2013, 01:29:17 pm
Wow, i'm there!

Quote from: Yada on March 15, 2013, 05:29:07 pm
This beer week in DC is turning out to be outrageous...

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/three-floyds-surly-assume-command-of-all-beer-taps-at-dupont-circle-on-328/


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 16, 2013, 07:38:57 pm
Heh, split it with my friend (who brought over the Heady and Zombie Dust). Going to visit my parents this weekend. Still have a few bottles of Founders Imperial Stout and a Firestone Parabola in their fridge that I need to bring back down.

Quote from: James Ford on March 16, 2013, 11:42:09 am
At what point in the proceedings did you pass out?

 :o
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 15, 2013, 11:28:02 pm
Had a successful tasting session last night: Heady Topper, Zombie Dust, Great Lakes Alchemy Hour, and BCBS Cherry Rye.

Kind of wish I didn't pour the Heady Topper into the glass. Tasted great but the appearance is, um, interesting. I actually enjoyed Zombie Dust the best over Heady and Alchemy Hour. Meanwhile, Cherry Rye is just perfection. Second time I've had it, and now super depressed that I kicked my last bottle. At least I have two bottles of BCBS Coffee still in the cellar (aka my bedroom closet).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2013, 09:55:45 am
Stopped for a beer at Max's in Baltimore last night before the DBT/Old 97's show. 102 taps of goodness and greatness In the 20 minutes I was seated at the bar drinking a draft from De Struisse, five drinks were ordered over my shoulder.

Two Bud Lights
One Miller Light
One Natty Boh
One Fox Barrel Cider

Oh well, I guess it was the second biggest douchebag night of the year...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 18, 2013, 10:10:44 am
i went to a restaurant once, high end you know, and they only had fine beer on the menu.  my friend asked the waiter, what do you do if somebody just wants a bud light or something.  the waiter told us, "we would throw them out."  good tip for him that evening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 18, 2013, 10:12:49 am
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2013, 10:10:44 am
i went to a restaurant once, high end you know, and they only had fine beer on the menu.  my friend asked the waiter, what do you do if somebody just wants a bud light or something.  the waiter told us, "we would throw them out."  good tip for him that evening.

(http://i.qkme.me/35xi40.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 18, 2013, 10:22:51 am
i went to churchkey on saturday afternoon, and holy fuck was it great.

they had a bunch of gravity kegs of rare german beers, which were all delicious, but the real highlight was the couple next to me completely trashed, maybe on their 2nd or 3rd date, making out and just having a blast.  overall the bar was pretty sloppy, and made for some wonderful people-watching at a bar that tends to have a fairly homogeneous crowd.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2013, 10:44:08 am
i hit CK on friday night for a quick drink before dinner.  while walking up 14h street the missus said "hey, isn't that the beer bar you're always talking about?  wanna stop in for a quick drink?"  best.  wife.  ever.  went with the ovila quad made with plums.  intense.

tried DFH's burton baton last night.  gets a big thumbs-up from me for making the hops, oak and the sweetness work together; but i can see how some might not like it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 18, 2013, 11:17:09 am
a tribute beer to the town of burton, without using the insane burton water profile. i die a little every time i drink it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2013, 11:27:08 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 18, 2013, 11:17:09 am
i die a little every time i drink it. 

in a good way?

unclear...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 18, 2013, 01:33:24 pm
it's an incredibly delicious beer, but i die because it does injustice to beer tradition. 

something like german beer purity law (rheinheitsgebot) is specific to water, malt and hops to each region. the idea of preserving beer history to region makes me very happy.

burton, england is infamous for it's water.  the burton water profile is insanely high in alkalinity and sulfur, making for a highly bitter beer. from what i gather, burton baton is 50/50 90-minute and strong ale.  it seems to match the description for a burton ale fairly well, but if you're going to make a tribute beer, follow similar purity law. and make the beer from scratch. it just feels like a knock-off to me.

edit: interview w/ sam (http://rarebeerclub.beveragebistro.com/rbcbeer_11.html) from WAY back describing what's in burton baton, as well as history
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 18, 2013, 02:05:50 pm
dog fish head.  how do they do it?  burton baton is awesome.  and the label is the shit.  have you seen the "olde school barleywine"?  the label is similiar in style.  ive never had a barley wine beer.  are they good?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2013, 02:12:13 pm
Label designed by Jon Langford of Mekons/ Waco Brothers fame.

Two thumbs up for Burton Baton from me. Neck and neck with 90 Min and Indian Brown as my favorite Dogfish beers.

And fuck German purity laws. Biggest reason German beer scene is and always will be stuck in a rut.

Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2013, 02:05:50 pm
dog fish head.  how do they do it?  burton baton is awesome.  and the label is the shit.  have you seen the "olde school barleywine"?  the label is similiar in style.  ive never had a barley wine beer.  are they good?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2013, 02:23:19 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2013, 02:05:50 pm
ive never had a barley wine beer.  are they good?

i quite like some barley wines, but i wouldn't say it's my favorite style... it's B, maybe a B+ in my books.  it's a big beer (must be over 8%, with many clocking in at over 10%), with a lot of caramel malt flavor and a good amount of hops.  one way of looking at them is as a super-malty IIPA/DIPA.  i find too many of them to be too sweet but there are some tasty ones out there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2013, 02:35:50 pm
Barleywine is probably my second favorite style, next to DIPA/IPA.

Particularly the hoppy American style barleywines (as opposed to English style barlewines). Sierra Nevada Bigfoot is a good one to start with, still a great value at $10/4 pack. Even better is Victory Old Horizontal, but they haven't made it the past couple of years. Even better is Great Divide Old Ruffian.


Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2013, 02:05:50 pm
dog fish head.  how do they do it?  burton baton is awesome.  and the label is the shit.  have you seen the "olde school barleywine"?  the label is similiar in style.  ive never had a barley wine beer.  are they good?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 18, 2013, 02:38:19 pm
god . . . i do love this here thread
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 18, 2013, 02:47:50 pm
The missus has a strong preference for Schlafly Barleywine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 18, 2013, 02:52:19 pm
here . . . an offering for your knowledge.  this is awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IT83qIma09E#!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2013, 03:01:59 pm
That's one of the best I've had that Beer ADvocate classifies as an "English Barleywine". JW Lees Harvest Ale might be the best I've had (haven't had FW SUCABA, if anyone wants to bring it to a bottle share sometime, feel free!)


Quote from: grateful on March 18, 2013, 02:47:50 pm
The missus has a strong preference for Schlafly Barleywine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2013, 03:28:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2013, 03:01:59 pm
(haven't had FW SUCABA, if anyone wants to bring it to a bottle share sometime, feel free!)

it'll be on tap next week at the smoke & barrel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2013, 03:34:01 pm
Drink one for me, i'll be on Spring Break in a warmer place.

I'm hoping there will be "leftovers" from some of these tap takeovers the following week, but it seems unlikely.

Quote from: sweetcell on March 18, 2013, 03:28:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2013, 03:01:59 pm
(haven't had FW SUCABA, if anyone wants to bring it to a bottle share sometime, feel free!)

it'll be on tap next week at the smoke & barrel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2013, 03:40:26 pm
d'oh.  sorry, you had mentioned that.

if able to choose between drinking craft beers and snorkeling in Saltpond Bay... i'd be grabbing my mask & fins.  have fun.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2013, 03:59:47 pm
Thanks, I can swim well enough to save my life, but not to snorkel. i'll leave that to my wife, while I'm sneaking my beer consumption on the beach and corralling the kid.

Quote from: sweetcell on March 18, 2013, 03:40:26 pm
d'oh.  sorry, you had mentioned that.

if able to choose between drinking craft beers and snorkeling in Saltpond Bay... i'd be grabbing my mask & fins.  have fun.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2013, 04:57:40 pm
i've been to St John twice, and i don't think i ever saw a policeman there.  so: unless you're hiding your consumption from the wife, i don't think there is any need to hide your beer.

EDIT: it's occurred to me that if you're staying at a large "respectable" resort with their own beach they may frown upon that, but if you're on a public beach (which 99% of them are), feel free to bring the cooler.

FOLLOW-ON EDIT: have you considered bringing a few beers in your suitcase, so you have something to switch up from the boring stuff you'll otherwise be drinking?  if so, what does a beer aficionado bring to the beach?  when i was last there i remember paying $13 for a six-pack of unremarkable lager, and $15 for what should have been a $6 bottle of wine.  and this was from a grocery store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2013, 07:44:59 pm
Staying at a rustic cottage again,  Cable, AC, full kitchen to do our own cooking, separate bedroom, view of the ferry landing, short walk to Cruz Bay...reallly the best bargain on the island. Seven nights for probably less than the price of two nights at a resort.

There's a market in Cruz Bay called Starfish that has a gourmet offshoot. Decent selection of Belgian and British stuff and maybe German (the good stuff, not just invBev) at nasty prices. Last time we stuck with Sierra Nevada Torpedo and Celebration at slighty higher than US prices, and Guinness Foreign Extra (the higher abv Guinness) (which was actually cheaper than US prices).

They also just enacted a no smoking law for all beaches there, hope they enforce that one.

Carry-on baggage only for us...travelin light!

Quote from: sweetcell on March 18, 2013, 04:57:40 pm
i've been to St John twice, and i don't think i ever saw a policeman there.  so: unless you're hiding your consumption from the wife, i don't think there is any need to hide your beer.

EDIT: it's occurred to me that if you're staying at a large "respectable" resort with their own beach they may frown upon that, but if you're on a public beach (which 99% of them are), feel free to bring the cooler.

FOLLOW-ON EDIT: have you considered bringing a few beers in your suitcase, so you have something to switch up from the boring stuff you'll otherwise be drinking?  if so, what does a beer aficionado bring to the beach?  when i was last there i remember paying $13 for a six-pack of unremarkable lager, and $15 for what should have been a $6 bottle of wine.  and this was from a grocery store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on March 19, 2013, 10:59:28 am
Back tracking to last weekend, nothing like a pint of Guinness draft for $3.17.  ;D  It may be thought of as just a regular beer today but I still love that sweet creaminess. The first several sips are absolutely divine. That silky creamy feeling with just the right balance of sweet and beer taste always puts a smile on my face.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2013, 12:06:45 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on March 19, 2013, 10:59:28 am
Back tracking to last weekend, nothing like a pint of Guinness draft for $3.17.  ;D  It may be thought of as just a regular beer today but I still love that sweet creaminess. The first several sips are absolutely divine. That silky creamy feeling with just the right balance of sweet and beer taste always puts a smile on my face.

I agree... Guinness will always be a top five beer for me. I love it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2013, 01:42:40 pm
Comprehensive Beer Week list...

http://www.dcbeer.com/cbc2013

Sorry JF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 19, 2013, 01:55:22 pm
Hope you guys enjoye the hell out of it! I don't even want to click on the link.

 At least I'll have access to one of your top 5 beers all week. And beaches.

Quote from: Yada on March 19, 2013, 01:42:40 pm
Comprehensive Beer Week list...

http://www.dcbeer.com/cbc2013

Sorry JF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2013, 02:17:48 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 19, 2013, 01:42:40 pm
Comprehensive Beer Week list...

http://www.dcbeer.com/cbc2013

the missus is NOT going to be happy with me next week... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 19, 2013, 02:21:37 pm
Good lord, that Surly/3 Floyds tap takeover is half priced drafts at the bar. I wonder how many people they can pack into that bar space and how early people will start arriving.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2013, 02:36:58 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 19, 2013, 02:21:37 pm
Good lord, that Surly/3 Floyds tap takeover is half priced drafts at the bar. I wonder how many people they can pack into that bar space and how early people will start arriving.

i was wondering about that - admittedly the beer geeks will be lining up, but how many of them are there?  will it actually get that crazy?

i probably won't be able to attend, hopefully someone else can don their riot gear and let us know how unruly the hoards are.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 19, 2013, 02:50:23 pm
Over 6,000 beer industry professionals will gather in Washington, D.C., March 26-29

http://www.craftbrewersconference.com/


Quote from: sweetcell on March 19, 2013, 02:36:58 pm
i was wondering about that - admittedly the beer geeks will be lining up, but how many of them are there?  will it actually get that crazy?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 19, 2013, 03:06:32 pm
my find today seems so small compared to such awesomeness!

found some more dog fish head 120 and 75 minute.  passed on some such nonsense offering with rosemary, paprika and thyme or something.  plus they had the wookie jack and nugget nectar on tap for growlers to go.  yeah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2013, 03:29:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 19, 2013, 02:50:23 pm
Over 6,000 beer industry professionals will gather in Washington, D.C., March 26-29

http://www.craftbrewersconference.com/


right, i assumed they'd all still be locked up at the conference... but there are no evening activities on thursday.  the conference will be winding down so there might not be all 6000 left (some might head home) but you're right - that'll be a lot of beer (industry) dorks wandering the streets of DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on March 19, 2013, 03:49:49 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 19, 2013, 03:06:32 pm
my find today seems so small compared to such awesomeness!

found some more dog fish head 120 and 75 minute.  passed on some such nonsense offering with rosemary, paprika and thyme or something.  plus they had the wookie jack and nugget nectar on tap for growlers to go.  yeah.

Sorry, this may have been discussed at length, but where does one find the Dog Fish 120? I had some at Thanksgiving and man it was good. But the dude serving it is a dick and kept being all cryptic about it and I got bored with the whole conversation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 19, 2013, 04:05:43 pm
for me it is like this.  i go into beer shoppes when i can, usually once or twice a month.  that beer is so weird, because when i first fell in love with it it only came out once a year, sorry cant remember when it was, but then it came out again, i think some strange batch that two stores owners i spoke with claimed they didnt know how they got it.  ive walked into a store and the guy just unloaded two cases of it onto his tiny display case.  a case for a case that sat there slowly being bought over a month.  the price of it keeps only the devoted happy and the rest at bay.  i have so much respect for this stuff, that i just let it happen.  when it is there, it is there.  unlike all other beers, which i wish were year round . . . dog fish head 120 is the king of kings.  the jesus beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2013, 04:07:14 pm
DFH 120 is a hard find.  AFAIK it's not brewed on a regular basis (but they do make it a few times a year).  it's also expensive - the only time i've found it on a shelf it was $9 for a 12 oz bottle.

DFH's beer finder: http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/fish-finder/results.htm?product=120%20Minute%20IPA&location_type=1&miles=10&zipcode=20002 (i'd call the shops before heading over)

not surprising that you like 120 - "More whisky than wine" according to their website (http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/120-minute-ipa.htm).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 19, 2013, 04:23:01 pm
 Brew at the Zoo  (http://www.marylandzoo.org/2013/03/bbt-presents-brew-at-the-zoo-2/?utm_source=WhatCounts+Publicaster+Edition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Brew+2013!+(Buy+Early+%26+Save)&utm_content=http%3a%2f%2fwww.marylandzoo.org%2f2013%2f03%2fbbt-presents-brew-at-the-zoo-2%2f)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on March 19, 2013, 04:26:57 pm
re: 120

The only place I've seen it on the shelf ever has Perfect Pour in Columbia and I didn't even look to see how much it was.

The few times I've gotten some it's been straight from the brewery in Milton.  The last time I bought some, I think it was three years ago (can check bottle dates when I get home if anyone is that interested), it was $20 bucks for a 4-pack.  Soo, if you have any reason to be in Rehoboth or Milton, it is quite worth it to swing by and grab some, if it's been released recently.

Their website says 120 is released three times a year:  February, June, and September.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on March 19, 2013, 04:32:01 pm
Chevy Chase Wine has DF 120 in stock according to their website, $11/bottle.

http://www.chevychasewine.com/products.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 19, 2013, 04:57:04 pm
Just came across a sixer of Hopslam. Second batch, bottled 1/23/13. Hopefully it's better than the first batch (which I didn't bother buying, heard a lot of mixed reviews).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 19, 2013, 05:08:37 pm
Whole Foods in Fairfax has it on draft right now. Not sure what they're charging for a growler and not sure who'd actually buy a growler of it.

Quote from: fatskippy on March 19, 2013, 04:32:01 pm
Chevy Chase Wine has DF 120 in stock according to their website, $11/bottle.

http://www.chevychasewine.com/products.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2013, 05:18:16 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 19, 2013, 04:57:04 pm
Just came across a sixer of Hopslam. Second batch, bottled 1/23/13. Hopefully it's better than the first batch (which I didn't bother buying, heard a lot of mixed reviews).

I drank two over the weekend and they were both pretty tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 08:46:00 am
Am I the only beer drinker who is totally over insanely hopped beers and IPAs?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 20, 2013, 08:54:56 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 08:46:00 am
Am I the only beer drinker who is totally over insanely hopped beers and IPAs?



I think so. :)

I had a "On the Wings of Armageddon" can last night. WOW... I'll probably be flamed for saying this, but it's on the heels of Heady Topper/Surly Abrasive and much better than Hopslam.

Can't believe this beer is local.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 09:48:13 am
I think it's because that's all I drank in college and post college. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 20, 2013, 09:53:58 am
I'm somewhat over barrel aged stouts and stouts in general (maybe it's the comng of Spring?) Though I'll probably still try to add to my KBS collection next month.

But over hoppy IPA's? NEVER.

Quote from: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 08:46:00 am
Am I the only beer drinker who is totally over insanely hopped beers and IPAs?


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 20, 2013, 10:45:46 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 20, 2013, 09:53:58 am
I'm somewhat over barrel aged stouts and stouts in general


Me too.  A bunch still in the fridge that I need to finish off.  Just not all that inspired to do so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on March 20, 2013, 11:00:57 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 08:46:00 am
Am I the only beer drinker who is totally over insanely hopped beers and IPAs?

And then there are those of us who hated them all along.

I'll take a good ol' stout any day. Love those things. Sure, better in the colder months but I still love a good stout in the thick of summer as well.

Finally had a Murphy's Stout yesterday, back to back with a Guinness. In my opinion, the Guinness was way better. Then again, not at all a fair comparison since the Guinness was a draft and the Murphy's in a can. I know that I can't stand Guinness bottled or can. Totally different experience. Won't touch the stuff unless I'm using it to cook with which is good. Someday when I run across it, I'll have to try Murphy's on tap.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 20, 2013, 11:12:46 am
i had a sip of Ten Fidy last night... amazing.  renewed my faith in imperial stouts.

also had small pours of over a dozen homebrews at the monthly DC homebrewer's club meeting.  some of the stuff was mediocre but none of it bad.  some were downright amazing: my highlights were a sparkling mead, belgian pale ale with gooseberries, a nelson sauvin IPA, a thin mint stout, and a three-year-old straight lambic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 11:56:48 am
Love Ten Fidy.  So delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 20, 2013, 11:57:57 am
forget that boring ol' basketball bracket, fill in a beer bracket instead:

DRAFT is hosting a Beer Bracket Competition: See if your favorite beer can go all the way! Each person who fills out a bracket will be entered into a contest to win a Kegerator.com kegerator. Plus, the top beer will get mulah for their charity of choice: The winner gets $1,000!
Enter here: http://draftmag.com/mm/6673

free to enter.  if you win the kegerator and don't want it, i'll be happy to take it off your hands ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on March 20, 2013, 12:01:15 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on March 20, 2013, 11:00:57 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 08:46:00 am
Am I the only beer drinker who is totally over insanely hopped beers and IPAs?

And then there are those of us who hated them all along.

I'll take a good ol' stout any day. Love those things. Sure, better in the colder months but I still love a good stout in the thick of summer as well.

Finally had a Murphy's Stout yesterday, back to back with a Guinness. In my opinion, the Guinness was way better. Then again, not at all a fair comparison since the Guinness was a draft and the Murphy's in a can. I know that I can't stand Guinness bottled or can. Totally different experience. Won't touch the stuff unless I'm using it to cook with which is good. Someday when I run across it, I'll have to try Murphy's on tap.



I have drunk a ton of different stouts but none of them is as good as a Guinness. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 20, 2013, 12:12:02 pm
speaking of beer brackets, WaPo is doing a local-only version:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/beer-madness-2013-going-local/2013/03/18/e79bbb04-8c29-11e2-9838-d62f083ba93f_story.html

voting closed on that one, tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on March 20, 2013, 12:17:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 20, 2013, 12:12:02 pm
speaking of beer brackets, WaPo is doing a local-only version:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/beer-madness-2013-going-local/2013/03/18/e79bbb04-8c29-11e2-9838-d62f083ba93f_story.html

voting closed on that one, tho.

it seems pretty unfair to put Raison D'Etre against Resurection in the first round.  Those are both #1 seeds imho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 20, 2013, 12:31:03 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on March 20, 2013, 12:01:15 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on March 20, 2013, 11:00:57 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 08:46:00 am
Am I the only beer drinker who is totally over insanely hopped beers and IPAs?

And then there are those of us who hated them all along.

I'll take a good ol' stout any day. Love those things. Sure, better in the colder months but I still love a good stout in the thick of summer as well.

Finally had a Murphy's Stout yesterday, back to back with a Guinness. In my opinion, the Guinness was way better. Then again, not at all a fair comparison since the Guinness was a draft and the Murphy's in a can. I know that I can't stand Guinness bottled or can. Totally different experience. Won't touch the stuff unless I'm using it to cook with which is good. Someday when I run across it, I'll have to try Murphy's on tap.



I have drunk a ton of different stouts but none of them is as good as a Guinness. 

now i get it.  now i get you.  im in love with you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 20, 2013, 01:31:08 pm
Let me guess. Bass makes your favorite pale ale, Widmer makes your favorite hefeweizen, and either SAm Adams, Harpoon, or Dogfish (60, not 75, 90, or 120) makes your favorite IPA.


 
Quote from: atomicfront on March 20, 2013, 12:01:15 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on March 20, 2013, 11:00:57 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 08:46:00 am
Am I the only beer drinker who is totally over insanely hopped beers and IPAs?

And then there are those of us who hated them all along.

I'll take a good ol' stout any day. Love those things. Sure, better in the colder months but I still love a good stout in the thick of summer as well.

Finally had a Murphy's Stout yesterday, back to back with a Guinness. In my opinion, the Guinness was way better. Then again, not at all a fair comparison since the Guinness was a draft and the Murphy's in a can. I know that I can't stand Guinness bottled or can. Totally different experience. Won't touch the stuff unless I'm using it to cook with which is good. Someday when I run across it, I'll have to try Murphy's on tap.



I have drunk a ton of different stouts but none of them is as good as a Guinness. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 20, 2013, 01:34:59 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 20, 2013, 01:31:08 pm
Let me guess. Bass makes your favorite pale ale, Widmer makes your favorite hefeweizen, and either SAm Adams, Harpoon, or Dogfish (60, not 75, 90, or 120) makes your favorite IPA.


 
Quote from: atomicfront on March 20, 2013, 12:01:15 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on March 20, 2013, 11:00:57 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 08:46:00 am
Am I the only beer drinker who is totally over insanely hopped beers and IPAs?

And then there are those of us who hated them all along.

I'll take a good ol' stout any day. Love those things. Sure, better in the colder months but I still love a good stout in the thick of summer as well.

Finally had a Murphy's Stout yesterday, back to back with a Guinness. In my opinion, the Guinness was way better. Then again, not at all a fair comparison since the Guinness was a draft and the Murphy's in a can. I know that I can't stand Guinness bottled or can. Totally different experience. Won't touch the stuff unless I'm using it to cook with which is good. Someday when I run across it, I'll have to try Murphy's on tap.



I have drunk a ton of different stouts but none of them is as good as a Guinness. 

atomicfront's response: If a lot of people like it, it must be good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 20, 2013, 01:49:21 pm
and coors makes the best pilsner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 20, 2013, 02:29:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 19, 2013, 05:18:16 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 19, 2013, 04:57:04 pm
Just came across a sixer of Hopslam. Second batch, bottled 1/23/13. Hopefully it's better than the first batch (which I didn't bother buying, heard a lot of mixed reviews).

I drank two over the weekend and they were both pretty tasty.
That's the Hopslam batch that I've been drinking as well......same as it ever was-delicious. Finally checked out the ever abundant Lagunitas Sucks and i gotta say it's quite good.  A lighter, crisper, lower alcohol version of the Slam.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 21, 2013, 08:20:51 pm
Coming soon:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/kmdobrz/ozzie_zpsb9678a6d.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 21, 2013, 10:27:41 pm
http://www.eatyourpizza.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/3floyds-elysian-georgetown.png

Three Floyds/Elysian takeover at the Georgetown location the same night. Guess you have to check their website to see which beers are where.



Quote from: Yada on March 15, 2013, 05:29:07 pm
This beer week in DC is turning out to be outrageous...

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/three-floyds-surly-assume-command-of-all-beer-taps-at-dupont-circle-on-328/


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 21, 2013, 10:46:35 pm
Had them both side by side at a Trader Joe's tasting on Saturday.

Both were completely mediocre, but Guinness was better.


Quote from: Jaguar on March 20, 2013, 11:00:57 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 20, 2013, 08:46:00 am
Am I the only beer drinker who is totally over insanely hopped beers and IPAs?

And then there are those of us who hated them all along.

I'll take a good ol' stout any day. Love those things. Sure, better in the colder months but I still love a good stout in the thick of summer as well.

Finally had a Murphy's Stout yesterday, back to back with a Guinness. In my opinion, the Guinness was way better. Then again, not at all a fair comparison since the Guinness was a draft and the Murphy's in a can. I know that I can't stand Guinness bottled or can. Totally different experience. Won't touch the stuff unless I'm using it to cook with which is good. Someday when I run across it, I'll have to try Murphy's on tap.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 22, 2013, 07:31:12 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 20, 2013, 11:12:46 am
also had small pours of over a dozen homebrews at the monthly DC homebrewer's club meeting.  some of the stuff was mediocre but none of it bad.  some were downright amazing: my highlights were a sparkling mead, belgian pale ale with gooseberries, a nelson sauvin IPA, a thin mint stout, and a three-year-old straight lambic.

that bud light was downright amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2013, 09:33:50 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 22, 2013, 07:31:12 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 20, 2013, 11:12:46 am
also had small pours of over a dozen homebrews at the monthly DC homebrewer's club meeting.  some of the stuff was mediocre but none of it bad.  some were downright amazing: my highlights were a sparkling mead, belgian pale ale with gooseberries, a nelson sauvin IPA, a thin mint stout, and a three-year-old straight lambic.

that bud light was downright amazing.

ha!  that was an interesting experiment - in the middle of all these flavorful (and several over-the-top) beers, someone broke out a bud light.  my palette was pretty beat up at this point but i literally could not taste the BL.  i could feel the carbonation... that's about it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2013, 10:07:59 pm
i was at the 930 last night, a few new offerings on tap (new to me at least):

- Victory Golden Monkey (downstairs, not my favorite tripel it but satisfied my urge for belgian esters)
- Stateside Saison (upstairs, very decent interpretation of the style)
- Palm Belgian Pale Ale (not gonna tell you where.  in case you're ever tempted by the "belgian" designation - don't. avoid. trust me.)

i considered having a DFH Indian Brown Ale but held myself to two drinks.  the 60 minute seemed to be the only other hoppy offering i saw
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 25, 2013, 03:21:21 pm
So where is everyone boozing this week?

http://www.dcbeer.com/cbc2013

I'm afraid these will all be mob scenes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 25, 2013, 03:30:26 pm
im staying home and not drinking much . . . so jesus can arise in peace.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2013, 10:38:50 am
i started last night at the Pizza Paradiso in Dupont.  tried:

- Evil Twin Femme Fatale Brett: almost no aroma but huge citrus taste.  barely bitter yet it was labeled an IPA...
- Oxbow/Stillwater B.A. Liquid Swords: good amount of sharpness and sourness from the brett, liked it
- t?Gaverhpke Singing Blonde: decent amount of brett sourness, not much else in the way of taste
- Tilquin Gueuze: just the right amount of sour, very tasty and refreshing
- Ballast Point Big Eye IPA on cask: meh.

i sat beside a beer distributor from MN.  among the many things we talked about was the AB takeover of Goose Island.  he thought it was a good thing.  apparently AB is investing a ton of money in GI, they recently bought a warehouse across the street from the brewery and have filled it with barrels.  he said it was sad that several brewers left right after the buy-out but that the folks who stayed are all really good, and this is their big chance to prove themselves so they're working really hard.  he claimed that AB was taking a hands-off approach to managing GI.

moved on over to the Big Hunt where i had a Founders Black Note and a 3 Stars barrel-aged Pandemic Porter.  they were both superb.  best beers of the night.  i might have preferred the Pandemic a tad more, stevewizzle was all about the Black Note.  chatted with the 3 Stars crew who were sitting right next to me at the bar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 26, 2013, 10:43:41 am
that black note was absolutely delicious.  will have to see how those firestone walker stouts compare at smoke n barrel tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on March 26, 2013, 03:50:52 pm
Not that it matters too terribly much.  But I believe Black Note is from Bell's.  Had it at a previous event at ChurchKey.. agreed, really good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on March 26, 2013, 03:53:46 pm
Anyone else try that Game of Thrones blond ale from Ommagong? Its was only $8.50 for a bomber at Total Wine Chantilly. I found it to be okay.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2013, 04:14:08 pm
Quote from: imbecile on March 26, 2013, 03:50:52 pm
Not that it matters too terribly much.  But I believe Black Note is from Bell's.  Had it at a previous event at ChurchKey.. agreed, really good.

d'oh.  well of course it matters.  i blame the black note for not getting it right ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 26, 2013, 04:29:45 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on March 26, 2013, 03:53:46 pm
Anyone else try that Game of Thrones blond ale from Ommagong? Its was only $8.50 for a bomber at Total Wine Chantilly. I found it to be okay.

yes . . . ok.  nice but i dont watch the series, so does it somehow make you think of it?  i hate the price of beer in the city.  good lord.  we get raped out here in the sticks.  im surprized there is not a band yet called "raped in the sticks"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2013, 04:36:41 pm
Big Hunt:
Still have some great @3starsbrewing tasties pouring today! Also 15¢ wings and @BellsBrewery Hopslam, Oberon, & Black Note! #dcbrews
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2013, 08:59:05 am
Had amazing brews at Smoke and Barrel last night, the highlights were the Firestone Walker Parabola and Firestone Walker Velvet Merlin (nitro). Both outrageous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2013, 11:38:25 am
amazing beers indeed!  agreed that the parabola was mind-blowing.  did you try the anniversary 16?  also mind-blowing... so many flavors going on in there.  the sucuba was good, but a little too hot on the alcohol.  i had the nitro'd merkin after having destroyed my palette on the aforementioned 13% beasts so i didn't get to enjoy its full potential.

also had: wookie jack (still the only black IPA i'll support), sculpin (huge amarillo nose), Thai Chili Wahoo Wheat (went really well with our spicy tacos).  i wanted to try the reserve porter but ran out of steam.

the S&B was a complete zoo when i got there at 6.  there was no way of making it to the bar, people were "in line" a good 10-15 bodies away from the bar.  i went downstairs and managed to get a spot at the bar - incredibly lucky since downstairs was only slightly better than upstairs.  chatted for a long time wit the 2 guys from The Brew Gentlemen (http://brewgentlemen.com/) - frat boys who are opening a brewery in pittsburgh.  great guys, living the dream.  the alstrom bothers were there.

yada, we suck for not coordinating a meet-up.  i probably bumped into you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2013, 01:47:24 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 27, 2013, 11:38:25 am
amazing beers indeed!  agreed that the parabola was mind-blowing.  did you try the anniversary 16?  also mind-blowing... so many flavors going on in there.  the sucuba was good, but a little too hot on the alcohol.  i had the nitro'd merkin after having destroyed my palette on the aforementioned 13% beasts so i didn't get to enjoy its full potential.

also had: wookie jack (still the only black IPA i'll support), sculpin (huge amarillo nose), Thai Chili Wahoo Wheat (went really well with our spicy tacos).  i wanted to try the reserve porter but ran out of steam.

the S&B was a complete zoo when i got there at 6.  there was no way of making it to the bar, people were "in line" a good 10-15 bodies away from the bar.  i went downstairs and managed to get a spot at the bar - incredibly lucky since downstairs was only slightly better than upstairs.  chatted for a long time wit the 2 guys from The Brew Gentlemen (http://brewgentlemen.com/) - frat boys who are opening a brewery in pittsburgh.  great guys, living the dream.  the alstrom bothers were there.

yada, we suck for not coordinating a meet-up.  i probably bumped into you.

I agree... bad timing, one of these days it will happen. I pondered sending you a quick email when I arrived but as you stated, it was a complete zoo. I was surprised how chill it was though once most of the beer industry folks left for the reception. 

I started with a taster of Parabola and then immediately ordered another. By 6:30 my friend arrived and we started ordering tastings of basically everything. We somehow missed the anniversary 16.

Our samplings...


sucaba (I agree with your thoughts)
indra kunindra (really interesting beer, literally could taste every aspect of the beer based on the description; lime, cayenne, etc)
dorado double ipa (up there with some of the best DIPA's imo
sculpin (delicious)
pivo pils (pointless in drinking last night, but it ended the evening)
velvet merlin (I want to swim in that beer)

Off to CK and possibly Meridian Pint tonight!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2013, 02:33:30 pm
you had a pils?  after all that imperial stuff?!? ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2013, 02:41:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 27, 2013, 02:33:30 pm
you had a pils?  after all that imperial stuff?!? ;D

I know, bad move!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 28, 2013, 11:07:43 am
oh man, i participated in the zoo that was pizzeria paridisio 1/2 drafts last night.  what a good time!

bruery takeover.  i drank the following:

cuir - solera beer! holy hell was this amazing.  15%, super boozy, lots of oak, fig, and vanilla.
hottenroth berliner weisse - 3.1%, tart as can be, the quintessential BW.
saison de lente - not bad saison, but a bit dry for my liking.
white oak - wheat wine! fantastic beer for a very difficult style.
rugbrod - tasted this.  pretty good rye, not my thing though.
hummulus lager - only had a taste, but absolutely incredible beer.
lokal red - same as above.  tastes a lot like my homebrew red, which is nice to know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 11:19:07 am
did anyone make it to the 3 floyds/surly event?  yada?

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 28, 2013, 11:07:43 am
saison de lente - not bad saison, but a bit dry for my liking.

... says the guy who made a 1.000 saison ;D

funny that you say too dry since saisons supposed to be bone-dry...  so must have been something crazy.  i've only ever had saison de lente once from a bottle, would have loved to try it on draft.  i love pretty much everything the bruery puts out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 28, 2013, 11:27:45 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 11:19:07 am
did anyone make it to the 3 floyds/surly event?  yada?

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 28, 2013, 11:07:43 am
saison de lente - not bad saison, but a bit dry for my liking.

... says the guy who made a 1.000 saison ;D

funny that you say too dry since saisons supposed to be bone-dry...  so must have been something crazy.  i've only ever had saison de lente once from a bottle, would have loved to try it on draft.  i love pretty much everything the bruery puts out.

Going tonight! And I see they don't have Zombie Dust. Fail.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 11:44:38 am
really?  that sucks, they supposedly had ZD last night.  bummer.

i'll be at the 930 tonight.  hopefully they have some interesting offerings.

edit: some well-rated choices that i'll be checking out: Daisy Cutter, CoCoNut Porter, Anti-Hero IPA
http://flyingdogbrewery.com/landing-pages/festival-de-cans/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 28, 2013, 01:52:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 11:19:07 am
did anyone make it to the 3 floyds/surly event?  yada?

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 28, 2013, 11:07:43 am
saison de lente - not bad saison, but a bit dry for my liking.

... says the guy who made a 1.000 saison ;D

funny that you say too dry since saisons supposed to be bone-dry...  so must have been something crazy.  i've only ever had saison de lente once from a bottle, would have loved to try it on draft.  i love pretty much everything the bruery puts out.

haha true. i'm admittedly pretentious, ever since homebrewing a delicious saison, i've had little/no interest in drinking commercial saisons.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 28, 2013, 02:19:09 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 11:44:38 am
really?  that sucks, they supposedly had ZD last night.  bummer.

i'll be at the 930 tonight.  hopefully they have some interesting offerings.

edit: some well-rated choices that i'll be checking out: Daisy Cutter, CoCoNut Porter, Anti-Hero IPA
http://flyingdogbrewery.com/landing-pages/festival-de-cans/

They have it at the Gtown location, I'm hoping there's a hidden keg of it there. :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 02:24:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 28, 2013, 01:52:28 pm
haha true. i'm admittedly pretentious, ever since homebrewing a delicious saison, i've had little/no interest in drinking commercial saisons.

homebrew snob ;D

i appreciate when commercial saisons (mostly north american) are a little less dry than classic or homebrewed versions.  i find a hint of sweetness works sometimes and can be a nice change.

speaking of which, i have 2 gallons of brett'ed saison which should be ready to bottle in the next few weeks... that stuff should be drier than the sahara.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 02:26:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 28, 2013, 02:19:09 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 11:44:38 am
really?  that sucks, they supposedly had ZD last night.  bummer.

i'll be at the 930 tonight.  hopefully they have some interesting offerings.

edit: some well-rated choices that i'll be checking out: Daisy Cutter, CoCoNut Porter, Anti-Hero IPA
http://flyingdogbrewery.com/landing-pages/festival-de-cans/

They have it at the Gtown location, I'm hoping there's a hidden keg of it there. :)

suggestion: get there early.  my brew-buddy was at the CK event last night and just wrote to me:

So last night I head down to Churchkey, arriving 45 minutes after they open. Stand in line for 20-30 minutes. Get in and they are COMPLETELY sold out of Zombie Dust and for that matter all 6 or so of the Three Floyds beers they advertised. That is freaking insanity!! I knew I should have been there when they opened the door...sigh!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 28, 2013, 05:18:32 pm
Wow, so Shmaltz Brewing (He'Brew/Coney Island) is opening up their own brewery and tasting room in Upstate New York, and it's a stone's throw from my parent's house! Scheduled to open in July.

http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/shmaltz-brewing-company-opens-50-barrel-brewery-with-20-000-barrels-of-capacity-in-upstate-new-york.77515/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 28, 2013, 07:10:48 pm
god im going to get so flamed and jumped and pounded for this one, but is there a winery/wine scene that so long ruled the world, that now fucking hates the fact that beer is taking over.  its so serious now.  hosting concert series, dinners at restaurants tucked away into awesomeness, moving in on the scene . . . the wine scene.  now beer, once the poor mans drink, the thing that common folk partook in while the elite drank wine (damn you), is  the new new, whatever "new" is anymore.  i think so.  i think people are moving away from wine and trying beer.  like trying gay in college, but sticking with it.  i like competition, i like anger towards the other to make one better.  i like not knowing what im talking about sometimes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 28, 2013, 09:13:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 02:26:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 28, 2013, 02:19:09 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 11:44:38 am
really?  that sucks, they supposedly had ZD last night.  bummer.

i'll be at the 930 tonight.  hopefully they have some interesting offerings.

edit: some well-rated choices that i'll be checking out: Daisy Cutter, CoCoNut Porter, Anti-Hero IPA
http://flyingdogbrewery.com/landing-pages/festival-de-cans/

They have it at the Gtown location, I'm hoping there's a hidden keg of it there. :)

suggestion: get there early.  my brew-buddy was at the CK event last night and just wrote to me:

So last night I head down to Churchkey, arriving 45 minutes after they open. Stand in line for 20-30 minutes. Get in and they are COMPLETELY sold out of Zombie Dust and for that matter all 6 or so of the Three Floyds beers they advertised. That is freaking insanity!! I knew I should have been there when they opened the door...sigh!

yup it was crazy - I went - left work early and got there at 3.30 - my buddy was a few minutes before me so we were 10th in line and chatting to some very nice north carolinians while we waited for 4pm. byt the time 4 rolled around there were at least 150 people in line

we got great bar seats and mainly did 4oz pours which really seemed like a great value as my tab was only $30

tried fiscal cliff, zombie dust, dreadnaught, artic panzer, redeemer, i cannot tell a rye, anti hero, toxic sludge, sexual chocolate and cask event horizon - yum
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 29, 2013, 08:54:44 am
my damage at PP Dupont last night. Another evening of fantastic beer!

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/27150_10152719211375038_1124276270_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 29, 2013, 10:08:20 am
last night's event at the 930 was a ton of fun musically, but a bit of a disappointment in the beer sense.

escort kicked ass.  it's nu-disco, they have great energy, the singer is hawt and can move... it works for me.  crowd could have been better... the industry types trickled out throughout the show so by the end the floor was less than half full.

on the beer side of things, this event was all about the industry trying to hype an emerging format: the can.  it wasn't about tasting amazing beers.  for the most part breweries don't put their best stuff in cans, they can their best-selling stuff.  dale's is an exception to this since they can everything, including their Ten Fidy which sadly was not on offer last night.  they only had their pale ale.  i had the coconut porter which was nice, and daisy cutter was a delightfully bitter american pale ale, but after those two i couldn't find anything else i was really interested in.  they had raging bitch in a can, so you could change it up from the 930's regular offering of raging bitch in a bottle.  for a while the entire upstairs was VIP only. the missus had to sneak up there to get a cupcake before the show.  luckily they took down the velvet rope after the crowd started to thin.  if they hadn't i wouldn't have tasted the daisy cutter - they were offering different beer at each bar.  the event organizers should provide a map if you're going to do that crap so folks who are there for the beer know where to find it.

it was a fun night listening to a great band and the enhanced beer selection was a nice plus - but not one that would have got me to attend had that been the only attraction.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 29, 2013, 10:10:27 am
Quote from: walkonby on March 28, 2013, 07:10:48 pm
is there a winery/wine scene that so long ruled the world, that now fucking hates the fact that beer is taking over.  its so serious now. 

is this a question, or a statement?

personally i don't see the resentment, but i don't feel i have a finger on this.  i would think that wine aficionados wouldn't care if beer is emerging... more wine for them, less plebes crashing their refined events.

are you seeing something different?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 29, 2013, 10:20:45 am
Quote from: brennser on March 28, 2013, 09:13:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 02:26:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 28, 2013, 02:19:09 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2013, 11:44:38 am
really?  that sucks, they supposedly had ZD last night.  bummer.

i'll be at the 930 tonight.  hopefully they have some interesting offerings.

edit: some well-rated choices that i'll be checking out: Daisy Cutter, CoCoNut Porter, Anti-Hero IPA
http://flyingdogbrewery.com/landing-pages/festival-de-cans/

They have it at the Gtown location, I'm hoping there's a hidden keg of it there. :)

suggestion: get there early.  my brew-buddy was at the CK event last night and just wrote to me:

So last night I head down to Churchkey, arriving 45 minutes after they open. Stand in line for 20-30 minutes. Get in and they are COMPLETELY sold out of Zombie Dust and for that matter all 6 or so of the Three Floyds beers they advertised. That is freaking insanity!! I knew I should have been there when they opened the door...sigh!

yup it was crazy - I went - left work early and got there at 3.30 - my buddy was a few minutes before me so we were 10th in line and chatting to some very nice north carolinians while we waited for 4pm. byt the time 4 rolled around there were at least 150 people in line

we got great bar seats and mainly did 4oz pours which really seemed like a great value as my tab was only $30

tried fiscal cliff, zombie dust, dreadnaught, artic panzer, redeemer, i cannot tell a rye, anti hero, toxic sludge, sexual chocolate and cask event horizon - yum


I walked by on 14th street... the line was huge
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on March 30, 2013, 03:42:31 am
Churchkey last night was fairly packed as usual. Tried a few beers like Avery Brewing's Immitis which I really really liked. and New Belgium's Ooh La La! which is a Raspberry fruit beer. That one was ok but way too sweet I think. I had some other beer from Nebraska of all places and it was fairly good.

Black Cat Pig Destroyer concert was up next and I got to try Three Floyds Permanent Funeral Pale Ale. Now that is one fine beer! at 10.5% it was quite the party starter haha.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 30, 2013, 11:30:16 am
capped the week off with jack rose epic takeover and meridian pint local night.

epic's elder brett was delicious and some absolutely wonderful beers at meridian, including:
lost rhino facebreaker ipa
dc brau otwoa
beggers & thieves anti-imperial rye lager
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 01, 2013, 02:39:09 pm
I'll have to add that to my August roadtrip that already includes Troegs, Ommegang, Dieu de Ciel, Hill Farmstead, the Alchemist and last and probably least, the Olde Saratoga Brewery.

Speaking of Saratoga, have you been to either Druthers or Henry Street Taproom? Both appear to have opened since the last time I was up there.


Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 28, 2013, 05:18:32 pm
Wow, so Shmaltz Brewing (He'Brew/Coney Island) is opening up their own brewery and tasting room in Upstate New York, and it's a stone's throw from my parent's house! Scheduled to open in July.

http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/shmaltz-brewing-company-opens-50-barrel-brewery-with-20-000-barrels-of-capacity-in-upstate-new-york.77515/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 01, 2013, 02:57:19 pm
It seems that Total Wine got KBS today. With a one 12 oz bottle ($6) limit per customer, it hardly seems worth the drive.

What happened to Founders announcement that they were going to make four times as much of the stuff and it was going to be $11 a four pack or something to that effect?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 01, 2013, 11:01:54 pm
The Lager I made actually turned out pretty well.  I think I might go into making lager's exclusively. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: moeszyslak on April 02, 2013, 08:36:13 am
I was going to be so upset if this was an April Fools joke.  I stopped by on my way home and got one!  Thanks for the heads up.

Quote from: James Ford on April 01, 2013, 02:57:19 pm
It seems that Total Wine got KBS today. With a one 12 oz bottle ($6) limit per customer, it hardly seems worth the drive.

What happened to Founders announcement that they were going to make four times as much of the stuff and it was going to be $11 a four pack or something to that effect?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 02, 2013, 08:41:32 am
Yeah, that would have been harsh. I had one on draft at Churckkey last night, was outstanding. When I drink one, kind of makes me think that almost any other stout is a waste of calories.

I know of another place in NOVA-Fairfax County that is tapping a keg Thursday, not sure if i can make it though.


Quote from: moeszslak on April 02, 2013, 08:36:13 am
I was going to be so upset if this was an April Fools joke.  I stopped by on my way home and got one!  Thanks for the heads up.

Quote from: James Ford on April 01, 2013, 02:57:19 pm
It seems that Total Wine got KBS today. With a one 12 oz bottle ($6) limit per customer, it hardly seems worth the drive.

What happened to Founders announcement that they were going to make four times as much of the stuff and it was going to be $11 a four pack or something to that effect?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 02, 2013, 03:00:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 02, 2013, 08:41:32 am
Yeah, that would have been harsh. I had one on draft at Churckkey last night, was outstanding. When I drink one, kind of makes me think that almost any other stout is a waste of calories.

I know of another place in NOVA-Fairfax County that is tapping a keg Thursday, not sure if i can make it though.


Quote from: moeszslak on April 02, 2013, 08:36:13 am
I was going to be so upset if this was an April Fools joke.  I stopped by on my way home and got one!  Thanks for the heads up.

Quote from: James Ford on April 01, 2013, 02:57:19 pm
It seems that Total Wine got KBS today. With a one 12 oz bottle ($6) limit per customer, it hardly seems worth the drive.

What happened to Founders announcement that they were going to make four times as much of the stuff and it was going to be $11 a four pack or something to that effect?

I way overpaid for a four pack at Rodmans. Two bottle limit, but had a co-worker with me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:26:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 01, 2013, 02:57:19 pm
What happened to Founders announcement that they were going to make four times as much of the stuff and it was going to be $11 a four pack or something to that effect?

maybe the stores are still charging high prices because they know they can get away with it?  or, more likely, that capacity isn't online yet... dammit.

edit: a quick google search indicated that the new capacity has been dedicated to Imperial Stout, Curmudgeon Old Ale and Backwoods Bastard - not BS/KBS.  i remember that "cheaper KBS" news story too, but maybe they've changed their minds.  insert walkies' rant here:


Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2013, 03:00:37 pm
I way overpaid for a four pack at Rodmans. Two bottle limit, but had a co-worker with me.

yikes... how bad?

and since we're talking about Founders: here is their release schedule for 2013: http://www.examiner.com/article/founders-brewing-company-releases-2013-schedule (or http://foundersbrewing.com/latest-news/2013/doom-is-our-next-backstage-series-release/).  gonna hafta track down some Doom.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 02, 2013, 03:32:02 pm
im still on a list to obtain two four packs.  we shall see if my rants are in order.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 02, 2013, 03:36:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:26:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 01, 2013, 02:57:19 pm
What happened to Founders announcement that they were going to make four times as much of the stuff and it was going to be $11 a four pack or something to that effect?

maybe the stores are still charging high prices because they know they can get away with it?  or, more likely, that capacity isn't online yet... dammit.

edit: a quick google search indicated that the new capacity has been dedicated to Imperial Stout, Curmudgeon Old Ale and Backwoods Bastard - not BS/KBS.  i remember that "cheaper KBS" news story too, but maybe they've changed their minds.  insert walkies' rant here:


Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2013, 03:00:37 pm
I way overpaid for a four pack at Rodmans. Two bottle limit, but had a co-worker with me.

yikes... how bad?

and since we're talking about Founders: here is their release schedule for 2013: http://www.examiner.com/article/founders-brewing-company-releases-2013-schedule (or http://foundersbrewing.com/latest-news/2013/doom-is-our-next-backstage-series-release/).  gonna hafta track down some Doom.

$7.99 a bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 03:44:52 pm
How many ounces are in that bottle?

Keep in mind, to my knowledge, I'm still in a Founders Free Zone.  ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:47:47 pm
KBS is only sold in 12 oz bottles... so, regular/small bottles (not bombers).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 02, 2013, 03:50:53 pm
My beer connect says only two cases were given to Rodmans and one case given to MacGruders, who knows though?

Also, two cases of Heady Topper are still being served at Smoke and Barrel. $10 a can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:47:47 pm
KBS is only sold in 12 oz bottles... so, regular/small bottles (not bombers).

Ouch! Too rich for my budget.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 02, 2013, 04:33:22 pm
You wouldn't pay $6 or $7 for 12 oz for one of the best beers in the world, with an ABV of 11.2.

Yet you'd probably wouldn't think twice about paying $15 for 25.4 ounces of a totally mediocre bottle of wine. Or double that at a restaurant.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:47:47 pm
KBS is only sold in 12 oz bottles... so, regular/small bottles (not bombers).

Ouch! Too rich for my budget.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 05:13:33 pm
Not until I start making DC money. Sometimes it's not a matter of the cost vs. quality but the price vs. my broke ass in a town that pays everybody nothing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 02, 2013, 10:52:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2013, 03:50:53 pm
My beer connect says only two cases were given to Rodmans and one case given to MacGruders, who knows though?

Also, two cases of Heady Topper are still being served at Smoke and Barrel. $10 a can.

they got 3 cases and 2 cases respectively
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2013, 07:46:07 am
Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2013, 03:50:53 pm
Also, two cases of Heady Topper are still being served at Smoke and Barrel. $10 a can.

Long way for me to go drink a beer.  Seriously thinking about it tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 03, 2013, 08:14:39 am
Never had KBS!  You can't freakin' buy it in MD!  ugh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 03, 2013, 10:57:29 am
Quote from: K8teebug on April 03, 2013, 08:14:39 am
Never had KBS!  You can't freakin' buy it in MD!  ugh.

Yeah, there's some strange distribution with Michigan coming to MD. MD basically blows for purchasing beer IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 03, 2013, 10:59:17 am
but they can legalize gay marriage and pot!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 03, 2013, 11:06:33 am
Quote from: walkonby on April 03, 2013, 10:59:17 am
but they can legalize gay marriage and pot!


Touché!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 03, 2013, 11:32:23 am
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2013, 10:57:29 am
Quote from: K8teebug on April 03, 2013, 08:14:39 am
Never had KBS!  You can't freakin' buy it in MD!  ugh.

Yeah, there's some strange distribution with Michigan coming to MD. MD basically blows for purchasing beer IMO.

Can you buy it in Delaware? That's just a hop, skip and a jump away from me. Actually, next month, only a hop and a skip.

I just wish that it was easier to purchase things in grocery stores and via online sales. We use to have a few grocery stores that sold beer and wine but they've all since closed and the ones still open don't bother. Oddly, we have a couple combination beer/wine/gas stations. Weird hypocrisy when you think about it.

We've got some weirdness down here with the liquor control boards who price fix everything. Nice that you don't have to shop around to find the lowest price except that they fix all the prices to sky high levels. Doesn't take much to realize that other than in a bar or restaurant, I don't buy much over the counter in Tax Hell, Maryland. They are now talking about allowing the Casino to operate as a warehouse but I don't understand any of that other than allowing them to serve alcohol all night, or something like that. I don't like gambling so it won't affect me unless they allow them to sell over the counter and they bring the prices way down.

Rhett, that $15 bottle of wine you were talking about is usually about $29 down here and it's rot gut that I'd rather not even touch. You can get better low end wine in Delaware for less than $15; however, the craft beers run about the same minus the over the counter taxes. Just to put them all in a little bit more perspective.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 03, 2013, 11:58:22 am
Quote from: Jaguar on April 03, 2013, 11:32:23 am
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2013, 10:57:29 am
Quote from: K8teebug on April 03, 2013, 08:14:39 am
Never had KBS!  You can't freakin' buy it in MD!  ugh.

Yeah, there's some strange distribution with Michigan coming to MD. MD basically blows for purchasing beer IMO.

Can you buy it in Delaware? That's just a hop, skip and a jump away from me. Actually, next month, only a hop and a skip.

even if it's distributed there, you'll have a tough time getting any.  KBS is a very limited, once-a-year release.  stores here are only selling one bottle per person, and aren't advertizing it... you need to be in the know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:12:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 02, 2013, 04:33:22 pm
You wouldn't pay $6 or $7 for 12 oz for one of the best beers in the world, with an ABV of 11.2.

Yet you'd probably wouldn't think twice about paying $15 for 25.4 ounces of a totally mediocre bottle of wine. Or double that at a restaurant.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:47:47 pm
KBS is only sold in 12 oz bottles... so, regular/small bottles (not bombers).

Ouch! Too rich for my budget.

Well at 930 club even bad beer is more than that. 

If you want to drink the best beer in the world make it yourself.  Store bought stuff no matter what the cost is usually inferior.  That is probably true of most things.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 03, 2013, 12:16:57 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:12:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 02, 2013, 04:33:22 pm
You wouldn't pay $6 or $7 for 12 oz for one of the best beers in the world, with an ABV of 11.2.

Yet you'd probably wouldn't think twice about paying $15 for 25.4 ounces of a totally mediocre bottle of wine. Or double that at a restaurant.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:47:47 pm
KBS is only sold in 12 oz bottles... so, regular/small bottles (not bombers).

Ouch! Too rich for my budget.

Well at 930 club even bad beer is more than that. 

If you want to drink the best beer in the world make it yourself.  Store bought stuff no matter what the cost is usually inferior.  That is probably true of most things.

I bet your lager tastes worse than Yuengling.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:21:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2013, 12:16:57 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:12:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 02, 2013, 04:33:22 pm
You wouldn't pay $6 or $7 for 12 oz for one of the best beers in the world, with an ABV of 11.2.

Yet you'd probably wouldn't think twice about paying $15 for 25.4 ounces of a totally mediocre bottle of wine. Or double that at a restaurant.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:47:47 pm
KBS is only sold in 12 oz bottles... so, regular/small bottles (not bombers).

Ouch! Too rich for my budget.

Well at 930 club even bad beer is more than that. 

If you want to drink the best beer in the world make it yourself.  Store bought stuff no matter what the cost is usually inferior.  That is probably true of most things.

I bet your lager tastes worse than Yuengling.

I can't drink Yuengling as it is so nasty.  Think what you want.  But I will enjoy my tasty lager while you enjoy pasteurized beer filled with stuff like corn syrup solids.  If you want something that is tastey to eat or drink start with the raw ingredients. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 03, 2013, 12:21:28 pm
C'mon. The guy's built like a linebacker, has a hot young wife, and has better music taste that you and I combined. I'm betting his lager's pretty damn good too.


Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2013, 12:16:57 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:12:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 02, 2013, 04:33:22 pm
You wouldn't pay $6 or $7 for 12 oz for one of the best beers in the world, with an ABV of 11.2.

Yet you'd probably wouldn't think twice about paying $15 for 25.4 ounces of a totally mediocre bottle of wine. Or double that at a restaurant.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:47:47 pm
KBS is only sold in 12 oz bottles... so, regular/small bottles (not bombers).

Ouch! Too rich for my budget.

Well at 930 club even bad beer is more than that. 

If you want to drink the best beer in the world make it yourself.  Store bought stuff no matter what the cost is usually inferior.  That is probably true of most things.

I bet your lager tastes worse than Yuengling.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:27:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 03, 2013, 12:21:28 pm
C'mon. The guy's built like a linebacker, has a hot young wife, and has better music taste that you and I combined. I'm betting his lager's pretty damn good too.


Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2013, 12:16:57 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:12:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 02, 2013, 04:33:22 pm
You wouldn't pay $6 or $7 for 12 oz for one of the best beers in the world, with an ABV of 11.2.

Yet you'd probably wouldn't think twice about paying $15 for 25.4 ounces of a totally mediocre bottle of wine. Or double that at a restaurant.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:47:47 pm
KBS is only sold in 12 oz bottles... so, regular/small bottles (not bombers).

Ouch! Too rich for my budget.

Well at 930 club even bad beer is more than that. 

If you want to drink the best beer in the world make it yourself.  Store bought stuff no matter what the cost is usually inferior.  That is probably true of most things.

I bet your lager tastes worse than Yuengling.

My wife isn't young, she is 35.  I am just very old, like you. 

Why would you think store bought beer would be better than stuff you make yourself.  My wife makes our butter and ice cream and both taste better than store bought stuff.  I am going to start making my own cheese soon as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 03, 2013, 12:40:28 pm
I do not have the space nor the desire to make my own beer, or even wine for that matter. Besides, I don't drink that much to justify doing so. Buying a little here and there is fine with me. Just the price you pay for having someone else do it for you. I just can't go all that high in price. Again, trade-offs.

Yuengling: I can drink it occassionaly but I don't really like the stuff.

Sweets, just tell me if they sell the damn stuff in Delaware. No need for elitist beer crap games.  ::)  I'd only buy one bottle anyway just to see if I even liked the stuff! Not being all that much of a beer person, I am picky about my beers and often it has more to do with whether or not I can stomach the stuff since many of them don't agree with me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 03, 2013, 12:48:04 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 03, 2013, 12:40:28 pm
I do not have the space nor the desire to make my own beer, or even wine for that matter. Besides, I don't drink that much to justify doing so. Buying a little here and there is fine with me. Just the price you pay for having someone else do it for you. I just can't go all that high in price. Again, trade-offs.

Yuengling: I can drink it occassionaly but I don't really like the stuff.

Sweets, just tell me if they sell the damn stuff in Delaware. No need for elitist beer crap games.  ::)  I'd only buy one bottle anyway just to see if I even liked the stuff! Not being all that much of a beer person, I am picky about my beers and often it has more to do with whether or not I can stomach the stuff since many of them don't agree with me.

http://bit.ly/Z8AWmv
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 03, 2013, 12:49:04 pm
35 is soooo young. That's when a woman hits her peak looks-wise, imo. Assuming she has taken care of herself.

Sweetcell makes a darn good IPA, but i think he'd be the first to tell you it doesn't measure up to Heady Topper or OTWOA.

Quote from: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:27:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 03, 2013, 12:21:28 pm
C'mon. The guy's built like a linebacker, has a hot young wife, and has better music taste that you and I combined. I'm betting his lager's pretty damn good too.


Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2013, 12:16:57 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:12:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 02, 2013, 04:33:22 pm
You wouldn't pay $6 or $7 for 12 oz for one of the best beers in the world, with an ABV of 11.2.

Yet you'd probably wouldn't think twice about paying $15 for 25.4 ounces of a totally mediocre bottle of wine. Or double that at a restaurant.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 02, 2013, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2013, 03:47:47 pm
KBS is only sold in 12 oz bottles... so, regular/small bottles (not bombers).

Ouch! Too rich for my budget.

Well at 930 club even bad beer is more than that. 

If you want to drink the best beer in the world make it yourself.  Store bought stuff no matter what the cost is usually inferior.  That is probably true of most things.

I bet your lager tastes worse than Yuengling.

My wife isn't young, she is 35.  I am just very old, like you. 

Why would you think store bought beer would be better than stuff you make yourself.  My wife makes our butter and ice cream and both taste better than store bought stuff.  I am going to start making my own cheese soon as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 03, 2013, 01:04:39 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 03, 2013, 12:40:28 pm
Sweets, just tell me if they sell the damn stuff in Delaware. No need for elitist beer crap games.  ::)  I'd only buy one bottle anyway just to see if I even liked the stuff!

i'm not being an elitist, i'm trying to set your expectations, namely that chances are very low you're going to get any.  you're expressing a mild interest in trying the beer, while other beer nerds are stalking stores ready to buy the place out as soon as shipments arrive.  here in DC all the KBS sold out within hours. 

Quote from: James Ford on April 03, 2013, 12:49:04 pm
Sweetcell makes a darn good IPA, but i think he'd be the first to tell you it doesn't measure up to Heady Topper or OTWOA.

hey, we're working in ;D

i can honestly say that the majority of the best beers i've tasted over the past year have been homebrews.  then again, i've tasted a lot of homebrews.

heady topper, KBS, pliny, etc - these beers with a cult following have over-the-top flavor.  great thing about brewing your own is with some practice you can dial in that much flavor too.  making an exact clone of a commercial craft beer is really tough but you can get damn close or better yet make your own version/creation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 03, 2013, 01:07:11 pm
Thanks, Yada.

Nope.

Phew! One less bottle that Sweetcell has to worry about hoarding for himself.  ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 03, 2013, 01:10:15 pm
i didn't get any.  sold out too quickly.

but whatever jag, you keep telling yourself that you can wander on down to the local beer retailer and get yourself some KBS at your leisure....

sorry for trying to inform you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 03, 2013, 01:20:21 pm
... to see if they have it or to even bother asking while I'm there buying wine or something else.

It was your typical condensending reply that irked me. Didn't even bother to note whether or not the state itself carried any. That's all I asked. I've been around in this thread enough to know that some of these beers are like trying to find sold out tickets to coveted shows. Let me decide if it's worth my time and effort to ask if I'm in the vicinity and care to bother.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 01:24:52 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 03, 2013, 01:04:39 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 03, 2013, 12:40:28 pm
Sweets, just tell me if they sell the damn stuff in Delaware. No need for elitist beer crap games.  ::)  I'd only buy one bottle anyway just to see if I even liked the stuff!

i'm not being an elitist, i'm trying to set your expectations, namely that chances are very low you're going to get any.  you're expressing a mild interest in trying the beer, while other beer nerds are stalking stores ready to buy the place out as soon as shipments arrive.  here in DC all the KBS sold out within hours. 

Quote from: James Ford on April 03, 2013, 12:49:04 pm
Sweetcell makes a darn good IPA, but i think he'd be the first to tell you it doesn't measure up to Heady Topper or OTWOA.

hey, we're working in ;D

i can honestly say that the majority of the best beers i've tasted over the past year have been homebrews.  then again, i've tasted a lot of homebrews.

heady topper, KBS, pliny, etc - these beers with a cult following have over-the-top flavor.  great thing about brewing your own is with some practice you can dial in that much flavor too.  making an exact clone of a commercial craft beer is really tough but you can get damn close or better yet make your own version/creation.

I am sure different types of beers are harder to make an outstanding one than others.  Stouts and IPA's are probably harder.  I didn't like the IPA I made.   And I think I taste more bad commerical Stouts and IPA's than other types of beers. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 03, 2013, 01:29:53 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 03, 2013, 01:20:21 pm
It was your typical condensending reply that irked me.

any condescension is purely perceived.  i stated a fact in a neutral tone, if you wish to see negativity then there isn't much i can do!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 03, 2013, 02:12:02 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 12:12:34 pm
If you want to drink the best beer in the world make it yourself.  Store bought stuff no matter what the cost is usually inferior.  That is probably true of most things.

I don't think that applies to most things, but I know it applies to hummus.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/12/28/a_hummus_recipe_that_s_way_better_than_store_bought_.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 03, 2013, 04:32:05 pm
hutch versus me . . . ok, good at times

ratbastard versus everybody . . . always great, for i enjoy the passion

atomicfront versus everybody . . . hes so unusual and original at times, bland and boring at others

sweetcell versus jag . . . the best.  the bickering topped by no other on here.  thank you.

by the way, i got kbs for the first time ever.  the place is "determing" how much one person can get, but it will either be two or four.  the other list i was on got shut down.  i did find some other beers in my purchase, like i found out that lag sucks is more than likely year round now, and that dogfish 120 is keg only for awhile.  got some more new stuff, but forgot now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 04:53:10 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 03, 2013, 04:32:05 pm
hutch versus me . . . ok, good at times

ratbastard versus everybody . . . always great, for i enjoy the passion

atomicfront versus everybody . . . hes so unusual and original at times, bland and boring at others

sweetcell versus jag . . . the best.  the bickering topped by no other on here.  thank you.

by the way, i got kbs for the first time ever.  the place is "determing" how much one person can get, but it will either be two or four.  the other list i was on got shut down.  i did find some other beers in my purchase, like i found out that lag sucks is more than likely year round now, and that dogfish 120 is keg only for awhile.  got some more new stuff, but forgot now.

I guess I can seem like a grumpy old man at times.  It is strange that I have such a younger wife and that most chicks that are attracted to me are 20 years younger than me when I am so bitter to the world.  It is a mystery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2013, 04:54:35 pm
Anyways, back to KBS.....anyone seen it since yesterday?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 03, 2013, 05:07:15 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 03, 2013, 04:53:10 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 03, 2013, 04:32:05 pm
hutch versus me . . . ok, good at times

ratbastard versus everybody . . . always great, for i enjoy the passion

atomicfront versus everybody . . . hes so unusual and original at times, bland and boring at others

sweetcell versus jag . . . the best.  the bickering topped by no other on here.  thank you.

by the way, i got kbs for the first time ever.  the place is "determing" how much one person can get, but it will either be two or four.  the other list i was on got shut down.  i did find some other beers in my purchase, like i found out that lag sucks is more than likely year round now, and that dogfish 120 is keg only for awhile.  got some more new stuff, but forgot now.

I guess I can seem like a grumpy old man at times.  It is strange that I have such a younger wife and that most chicks that are attracted to me are 20 years younger than me when I am so bitter to the world.  It is a mystery.

oh come on, you have got to know the answer to that one, big guy.  older guys like younger girls/guys because it makes them feel that theyve still got it and younger girls/guys like older guys because they are fucking hot,    and . . . because everybody is obsessed with bigger:  bigger guys, bigger trucks, bigger meals, bigger beers, bigger boobs, bigger shows, bigger paychecks, bigger dicks, bigger brains, bigger houses, bigger words, bigger phones. im tired now and i will quit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 03, 2013, 09:54:40 pm
Wow, half price drafts at Smoke and Barrel tonight.

DC Brau OTWOA $4
Mad Fox Orange Whip IPA $4 (should have hada second OTWOA)
Dieu de Ciel Peche Mortel $5
Goose Island BCBS $5

And tomorrow, $5 drafts of KBS in Fairfax, if i get there in time. Good times.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 04, 2013, 09:17:55 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2013, 04:54:35 pm
Anyways, back to KBS.....anyone seen it since yesterday?

Bought some at Rodman's on Tuesday, was limited to two bottles/person. I have an '11 I'm going to crack open for my birthday next month.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 04, 2013, 10:10:15 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 03, 2013, 09:54:40 pm
Wow, half price drafts at Smoke and Barrel tonight.

DC Brau OTWOA $4
Mad Fox Orange Whip IPA $4 (should have hada second OTWOA)
Dieu de Ciel Peche Mortel $5
Goose Island BCBS $5

And tomorrow, $5 drafts of KBS in Fairfax, if i get there in time. Good times.

were you there? seemed to have missed you.

enjoyed the same list, except sub out the dieu de ciel for a transatlantique kriek. that orange whip is underwhelming compared to the rest of the lineup. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 04, 2013, 10:14:09 am
am i correct to believe that these goose island cherry and bourbon stouts, are hard to find?  not sure if i have seen them round where i live . . . and believe me, these country folks out here who sell it are starting to get beer crazy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 04, 2013, 10:22:18 am
Quote from: walkonby on April 04, 2013, 10:14:09 am
am i correct to believe that these goose island cherry and bourbon stouts, are hard to find?  not sure if i have seen them round where i live . . . and believe me, these country folks out here who sell it are starting to get beer crazy.

the cherry is sought after, and yeah hard to find.

the standard bourbon county is readily available in DC.

that's great that the sticks are catching the craze.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 04, 2013, 10:27:53 am
That's funny. We had a fifth beer, but i didn't want to make us look like total lushes so didn't include it in the list, splitting five beers.

What was it? The Transatlantique Kriek.

Peche Mortel is one of my very favorite stouts. Unfortunately, it didn't really pair well with the bbq sauce. Too smooth. Needed a beer with a bit more bite. Like the BCBS Stout, which did pair well with the BBQ.

I was there between 5:30 and 7:45, wife and kid joined me at 6. Seemed to be a couple of other families with kids there too.

Sorry we missed you! I missed Brennser at ChurchKey on Monday too. I'm on a roll. If I go to the KBS tapping at Fairfax Whole Foods tonight, I wonder who I will miss?



Quote from: stevewizzle on April 04, 2013, 10:10:15 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 03, 2013, 09:54:40 pm
Wow, half price drafts at Smoke and Barrel tonight.

DC Brau OTWOA $4
Mad Fox Orange Whip IPA $4 (should have hada second OTWOA)
Dieu de Ciel Peche Mortel $5
Goose Island BCBS $5

And tomorrow, $5 drafts of KBS in Fairfax, if i get there in time. Good times.

were you there? seemed to have missed you.

enjoyed the same list, except sub out the dieu de ciel for a transatlantique kriek. that orange whip is underwhelming compared to the rest of the lineup. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 04, 2013, 02:01:39 pm
Heading out for a cruise soon - there's supposed to be a "craft beer" bar onboard called Michael's. I'm skeptical at best.  I guess ChurchKey has spoiled me....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 04, 2013, 02:12:13 pm
I've got word on a case of KBS floating around for $125!!!

I'll report back if I score the treasure!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 04, 2013, 02:15:04 pm
Baseball

http://www.dcbeer.com/news/home-run-double-strikeout-craft-beer-guide-nationals-stadium
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 05, 2013, 10:44:08 am
got to be north of Baltimore tomorrow morning, looking to grab a beer and some lunch on my way back.  any recommendations? i've got to park in the city, and all that non-sense.  would like to get a growler fill too, if that's a thing to do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on April 05, 2013, 11:01:20 am
DC Brau just announced that they'll be year-round canning Penn Quarter Porter from now on.  Available at Growler Hours on Saturday.

Also, not sure if this was known or not.. but I just found out, OTWOA will be brewed and canned every two months, with the next batch being brewed on Monday.

Also, here's the draft/growler fill list for tomorrow:
Public
Corruption
Citizen
PQP
Tasters Choice (Coffee Dopplebock)
Colliding Hempispheres (Belgo-American Brown Ale)
Yonder Cities (Farmhouse IPA)
Seasons

I'm unfamiliar with that last one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 05, 2013, 11:02:10 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 05, 2013, 10:44:08 am
got to be north of Baltimore tomorrow morning, looking to grab a beer and some lunch on my way back.  any recommendations? i've got to park in the city, and all that non-sense.  would like to get a growler fill too, if that's a thing to do.

Brewers Art is definite stop if you haven't been there before.  They have great beer.  And if you are there you might as well go around the corner to the OWL Bar.  Great history to that place.  They don't make their own beer but they have a nice beer list with Union Craft  beer on the menu.

Heavy Seas Alehouse has good food and beer selection if you like Heavy Seas Beer.

If you want to go to the cool Hampden area visit golden west they have good beer and food. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 05, 2013, 11:03:31 am
Quote from: imbecile on April 05, 2013, 11:01:20 am
DC Brau just announced that they'll be year-round canning Penn Quarter Porter from now on.  Available at Growler Hours on Saturday.

Also, not sure if this was known or not.. but I just found out, OTWOA will be brewed and canned every two months, with the next batch being brewed on Monday.

Also, here's the draft/growler fill list for tomorrow:
Public
Corruption
Citizen
PQP
Tasters Choice (Coffee Dopplebock)
Colliding Hempispheres (Belgo-American Brown Ale)
Yonder Cities (Farmhouse IPA)
Seasons

I'm unfamiliar with that last one.

Where'd you find details on Wings being canned every two months? I guess that was smart of them to not make it available at all times if they want to continue to charge $18 a sixer for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on April 05, 2013, 11:09:52 am
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2013, 11:03:31 am
Quote from: imbecile on April 05, 2013, 11:01:20 am
DC Brau just announced that they'll be year-round canning Penn Quarter Porter from now on.  Available at Growler Hours on Saturday.

Also, not sure if this was known or not.. but I just found out, OTWOA will be brewed and canned every two months, with the next batch being brewed on Monday.

Also, here's the draft/growler fill list for tomorrow:
Public
Corruption
Citizen
PQP
Tasters Choice (Coffee Dopplebock)
Colliding Hempispheres (Belgo-American Brown Ale)
Yonder Cities (Farmhouse IPA)
Seasons

I'm unfamiliar with that last one.

Where'd you find details on Wings being canned every two months? I guess that was smart of them to not make it available at all times if they want to continue to charge $18 a sixer for it.

It was just a mention on facebook lastnight.  They were teasing they'd add something to the year round canned lineup today and everyone was hoping it was OTWOA and one of their responses was that OTWOA was already in cans and they would be brewing it every two months.

Edit:  The post directly beneath that one on Facebook is about them giving away tickets to Ghost at the 930 during growler hours on May 11th.  More importantly, it states that this is also the date of the next OTWOA release at the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 05, 2013, 11:26:02 am
Quote from: atomicfront on April 05, 2013, 11:02:10 am
Brewers Art is definite stop if you haven't been there before.  They have great beer.  And if you are there you might as well go around the corner to the OWL Bar.  Great history to that place.  They don't make their own beer but they have a nice beer list with Union Craft  beer on the menu.

thanks, i think i'll check out brewers art then!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 05, 2013, 11:52:41 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 05, 2013, 11:26:02 am
Quote from: atomicfront on April 05, 2013, 11:02:10 am
Brewers Art is definite stop if you haven't been there before.  They have great beer.  And if you are there you might as well go around the corner to the OWL Bar.  Great history to that place.  They don't make their own beer but they have a nice beer list with Union Craft  beer on the menu.

thanks, i think i'll check out brewers art then!



I just remembered Brewers Art doesn't open until 4PM.  There is also Max's on Broadway in fells point they carry about 100 beers on tap I believe.  And Pratt Street Ale House which is downtown. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 05, 2013, 12:27:16 pm
Wharf Rat in Fells is also fun.  They sell mostly Oliver Beers, but I like them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 05, 2013, 12:32:31 pm
Got to drink two 9oz pours of KBS at Fairfax Whole Foods yesterday. $5 per pour, in a plastic cup.
The keg kicked in 36 minutes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 08, 2013, 10:19:07 am
ended up checking out max's taphouse on saturday night.

any place with 3 berliner weisse's on draft is alright with me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 08, 2013, 10:24:40 am
I'll bet the vast majority of Max's patrons don't know what a berliner weisse is.

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 08, 2013, 10:19:07 am
ended up checking out max's taphouse on saturday night.

any place with 3 berliner weisse's on draft is alright with me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 08, 2013, 10:41:40 am
they do seem to have a seriously ambitious draft list that doesn't quite match the clientele. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 08, 2013, 11:50:02 am
whoah....

http://emptygrowler.com/2013/04/bourbon-county-stout-tasting/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 08, 2013, 02:42:16 pm
Stone Enjoy By 5.17.13 is coming to VA.

Given that that date is our 10th anniversary, that bottle will definitely be added to my bottle collection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 08, 2013, 02:58:26 pm
i wish heady topper would come to va.  i wish i wasnt an asshole.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 08, 2013, 03:38:12 pm
Will never happen. When most of your sales are people driving to your brewery and purchasing multiple cases at a time (and the rest is to ship it locally within 30 miles), why would you spend the money to ship it  far away?

Quote from: walkonby on April 08, 2013, 02:58:26 pm
i wish heady topper would come to va.  i wish i wasnt an asshole.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 08, 2013, 03:47:14 pm
but what do i do about being an asshole?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 08, 2013, 03:58:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 08, 2013, 02:42:16 pm
Stone Enjoy By 5.17.13 is coming to VA.

Given that that date is our 10th anniversary, that bottle will definitely be added to my bottle collection.

I gotta say I'm pretty disappointed with those bottles. I had the 4/1/13 a few weeks ago and it was mediocre at best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 08, 2013, 04:03:46 pm
The same thing I do. Just keep being yourself.

Quote from: walkonby on April 08, 2013, 03:47:14 pm
but what do i do about being an asshole?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 08, 2013, 04:12:31 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 08, 2013, 02:58:26 pm
i wish heady topper would come to va.  i wish i wasnt an asshole.

Head to DC Brau during the next canning of Wings, definitely the closest beer in a few hundred mile radius that has similarities to Heady.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 08, 2013, 04:46:46 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on April 05, 2013, 12:27:16 pm
Wharf Rat in Fells is also fun.  They sell mostly Oliver Beers, but I like them.

Pratt Street Ale House I guess is Oliver's brew house?  I am not sure but they have twenty versions of Oliver beer on draft.  Good place to stop after a game.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 08, 2013, 05:17:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 08, 2013, 02:42:16 pm
Stone Enjoy By 5.17.13 is coming to VA.

Given that that date is our 10th anniversary, that bottle will definitely be added to my bottle collection.

i'm hoping you're adding it as a collector's item... no point in cellaring these. 

Quote from: Yada on April 08, 2013, 03:58:51 pm
I gotta say I'm pretty disappointed with those bottles. I had the 4/1/13 a few weeks ago and it was mediocre at best.

i had that one, or the previous, on draft and i gotta agree.  a nice DIPA but nothing spectacular.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 08, 2013, 05:29:00 pm
Ther previous version that VA got (not 4/1), was fantastic, imo. Of course I'm not cellaring it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

That was just for you James since I knew that you would appreciate it so much. ;)

I stuck with the $3 pints of Killens Stout. Not all that great but the price sure was.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 09:30:42 pm
Review of the Alchemist Brewery (Heady Topper) on tripadvisor.com

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g57438-d2390430-Reviews-The_Alchemist_Brewery-Waterbury_Vermont.html#REVIEWS

?Not the best beer?
 
Reviewed December 6, 2011 (One star out of Five)


I recommend going somewhere else for decent beer. On tap, the beer is drinkable but nothing to write home about - in cans, it is just not good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 09, 2013, 10:09:57 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

well that's about as surprising as someone who doesn't like shoegaze saying "i listened to Screen Vinyl Image and it was the worse noise i've ever heard in my life!" ;D

perfectly understandable that you didn't like it given your dislike of hops, but fyi it's rate 95 on beeradvocate - putting it very very high on the list of best IPAs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 09, 2013, 10:10:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 09:30:42 pm
Review of the Alchemist Brewery (Heady Topper) on tripadvisor.com

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g57438-d2390430-Reviews-The_Alchemist_Brewery-Waterbury_Vermont.html#REVIEWS

?Not the best beer?
 
Reviewed December 6, 2011 (One star out of Five)


I recommend going somewhere else for decent beer. On tap, the beer is drinkable but nothing to write home about - in cans, it is just not good.


awesome.  spread the word.  the sh*t is terrible.  don't go there, and don't drink any.

hopefully more for those who do appreciate the stuff!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 11:03:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 09, 2013, 10:09:57 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

well that's about as surprising as someone who doesn't like shoegaze saying "i listened to Screen Vinyl Image and it was the worse noise i've ever heard in my life!" ;D

perfectly understandable that you didn't like it given your dislike of hops, but fyi it's rate 95 on beeradvocate - putting it very very high on the list of best IPAs.

I don't care what they rate it. It gets a -95 in my world. Disgusting!

That Killens Stout wasn't all that hot either and I usually like stouts. Drinkable but I've had much better stouts.

I like to try new things to me so that I actually know. On occassion, I've been surprised with something that I had assumed that I would not like, or even would like, and ended up thinking otherwise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 09:53:36 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 09, 2013, 10:09:57 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

well that's about as surprising as someone who doesn't like shoegaze saying "i listened to Screen Vinyl Image and it was the worse noise i've ever heard in my life!" ;D

perfectly understandable that you didn't like it given your dislike of hops, but fyi it's rate 95 on beeradvocate - putting it very very high on the list of best IPAs.

I don't think Beer Advocate is a good choice to rate beer.  It is sort of mob mentality.  Once the beer gets a good rating everyone else just follows along so they don't appear to be stupid.  I have seen some great beers rated low and some bad beers rated high.  It isn't like wine ratings which are done by one organization.  If I see a great score on wine it is pretty much a given that it is pretty good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:09:13 am
It sounds like you're explaining the popularity of the Lumineers or Mumford in Sons.

I'd hardly call beer advocate a "mob mentality" As best I can tell, Dogfish 90 is the most often rated beer on beer advocate, and in 11+ years it has amassed 7200 ratings. Out of what, a world population of 8 billion potential beer drinkers, 7200 people in 11 years hardly constitutes a mob.

And I'll take the collective opinion of 7200 beer geeks over the collective opinion of one or two beer geeks (or casual beer drinkers) any day.

If something is a 90 or above on beer advocate and has a good number of ratings, it's going to get my attention. If it has a 95 with 2400 ratings (the beer in question is Firestone Walker's Union Jack), I can assure you it's (the hoppy beer hating) Jaguar who is WRONG on this one.


Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 09:53:36 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 09, 2013, 10:09:57 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

well that's about as surprising as someone who doesn't like shoegaze saying "i listened to Screen Vinyl Image and it was the worse noise i've ever heard in my life!" ;D

perfectly understandable that you didn't like it given your dislike of hops, but fyi it's rate 95 on beeradvocate - putting it very very high on the list of best IPAs.

I don't think Beer Advocate is a good choice to rate beer.  It is sort of mob mentality.  Once the beer gets a good rating everyone else just follows along so they don't appear to be stupid.  I have seen some great beers rated low and some bad beers rated high.  It isn't like wine ratings which are done by one organization.  If I see a great score on wine it is pretty much a given that it is pretty good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 11:21:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:09:13 am
It sounds like you're explaining the popularity of the Lumineers or Mumford in Sons.

I'd hardly call beer advocate a "mob mentality" As best I can tell, Dogfish 90 is the most often rated beer on beer advocate, and in 11+ years it has amassed 7200 ratings. Out of what, a world population of 8 billion potential beer drinkers, 7200 people in 11 years hardly constitutes a mob.

And I'll take the collective opinion of 7200 beer geeks over the collective opinion of one or two beer geeks (or casual beer drinkers) any day.

If something is a 90 or above on beer advocate and has a good number of ratings, it's going to get my attention. If it has a 95 with 2400 ratings (the beer in question is Firestone Walker's Union Jack), I can assure you it's (the hoppy beer hating) Jaguar who is WRONG on this one.


Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 09:53:36 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 09, 2013, 10:09:57 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

well that's about as surprising as someone who doesn't like shoegaze saying "i listened to Screen Vinyl Image and it was the worse noise i've ever heard in my life!" ;D

perfectly understandable that you didn't like it given your dislike of hops, but fyi it's rate 95 on beeradvocate - putting it very very high on the list of best IPAs.

I don't think Beer Advocate is a good choice to rate beer.  It is sort of mob mentality.  Once the beer gets a good rating everyone else just follows along so they don't appear to be stupid.  I have seen some great beers rated low and some bad beers rated high.  It isn't like wine ratings which are done by one organization.  If I see a great score on wine it is pretty much a given that it is pretty good.

You should take your own opinion.  I like Dogfish head Namaste a lot better than 90 minute ipa.  Yet it is rated much lower.   I also really love  Raison D'Être  which doesn't get very good ratings.  I also love Burton Baton which does get great ratings. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:34:43 am
i agree with atomicfront and jag on this one.  

who cares if a beer is a 95 rating?  there's so many good beers out there, why do we need to differentiate them by some bullshit point system? everyones palate and style taste is different.  it's like pitchfork, but for beer.

and i do see the mob mentality. it's a bunch of clowns re-writing the same review, over and over, and trying their hardest to have the same tastes as everyone else.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:34:54 am
From that reply, it seems pretty clear that really hoppy beers probably aren't your thing either (?)

There's likely a dozen locally available witbiers that are better and cheaper than Namaste.

Raison D'Etre is good for the (low) price, but there's tons of strong dark Belgians (if that's really the style that it is) that are better.

Can't argue with you on Burton Baton, it is quite tasty (though not really an IPA).


Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 11:21:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:09:13 am
It sounds like you're explaining the popularity of the Lumineers or Mumford in Sons.

I'd hardly call beer advocate a "mob mentality" As best I can tell, Dogfish 90 is the most often rated beer on beer advocate, and in 11+ years it has amassed 7200 ratings. Out of what, a world population of 8 billion potential beer drinkers, 7200 people in 11 years hardly constitutes a mob.

And I'll take the collective opinion of 7200 beer geeks over the collective opinion of one or two beer geeks (or casual beer drinkers) any day.

If something is a 90 or above on beer advocate and has a good number of ratings, it's going to get my attention. If it has a 95 with 2400 ratings (the beer in question is Firestone Walker's Union Jack), I can assure you it's (the hoppy beer hating) Jaguar who is WRONG on this one.


Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 09:53:36 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 09, 2013, 10:09:57 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

well that's about as surprising as someone who doesn't like shoegaze saying "i listened to Screen Vinyl Image and it was the worse noise i've ever heard in my life!" ;D

perfectly understandable that you didn't like it given your dislike of hops, but fyi it's rate 95 on beeradvocate - putting it very very high on the list of best IPAs.

I don't think Beer Advocate is a good choice to rate beer.  It is sort of mob mentality.  Once the beer gets a good rating everyone else just follows along so they don't appear to be stupid.  I have seen some great beers rated low and some bad beers rated high.  It isn't like wine ratings which are done by one organization.  If I see a great score on wine it is pretty much a given that it is pretty good.

You should take your own opinion.  I like Dogfish head Namaste a lot better than 90 minute ipa.  Yet it is rated much lower.   I also really love  Raison D'Être  which doesn't get very good ratings.  I also love Burton Baton which does get great ratings. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 10, 2013, 11:35:36 am
Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 09:53:36 am
It isn't like wine ratings which are done by one organization. 

oh look... a.front is wrong again.

there isn't one wine rating organization.  the most widely referenced ratings are those from Wine Spectator, Wine Enthusiast and Wine Advocate.  these are magazines/websites.  they will each rate a wine differently.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:39:19 am
My liver cares if it's a 95 rating. There's "so many good beers out there" that I couldn't possibly try them all. If I see a beer that has a 95 rating, and plenty of reviews, i'm going to opt to try that over some other beer that has an 85 rating. Why should I waste my time on "good" beer when better beer is available?


Quote from: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:34:43 am

who cares if a beer is a 95 rating?  there's so many good beers out there, why do we need to differentiate them by some bullshit point system? everyones palate and style taste is different.  it's like pitchfork, but for beer.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:47:15 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:39:19 am
My liver cares if it's a 95 rating. There's "so many good beers out there" that I couldn't possibly try them all. If I see a beer that has a 95 rating, and plenty of reviews, i'm going to opt to try that over some other beer that has an 85 rating. Why should I waste my time on "good" beer when better beer is available?
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:34:43 am

who cares if a beer is a 95 rating?  there's so many good beers out there, why do we need to differentiate them by some bullshit point system? everyones palate and style taste is different.  it's like pitchfork, but for beer.


my liver and alcoholism is clearly superior to yours.

it has it's place.  during CBC week, i knew which beers had those high BA ratings.  it made making tough decisions a little easier.

but i also cringed during CBC week when i heard a brewer bragging about his beer rating in the line to piss at meridian pint.  he didn't say he liked it, or why he brewed it, or what inspired the brew... he just said "yeah, it's got 4 stars on untapp'd". i just think there's a lot more to drinking beer than look, taste, smell, and feel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 11:48:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:09:13 am
If something is a 90 or above on beer advocate and has a good number of ratings, it's going to get my attention. If it has a 95 with 2400 ratings (the beer in question is Firestone Walker's Union Jack), I can assure you it's (the hoppy beer hating) Jaguar who is WRONG on this one.

Stick to numbers James, because you don't quite have it down with words yet.

It's not a matter of being right or wrong, it's opinion and taste. If I go by your words, than I would be wrong for some beer tasting bad to me. Since when does some poll know my personal tastes? As I stated, in my world, the stuff is disgusting!

Stevewizzle - funny you compared those ratings to Pitchfork because that is exactly what I came in here to do.

The place I buy my wine has charts for their various wines as to what is most popular (or however they word it). I've noticed that it's the lower quality wines that always make it to the top. All that tells me is that most people are buying cheap over quality. I get that Beer Advocate probably isn't based on sales but other beer drinkers opinions, but that is their opinion, not by select high end professionals. Even then, if the pros think it's wonderful, I'm still not buying that swill because .... I DO NOT LIKE IT!!!

Just like if you, James, come on here raving about some band, I know that the odds are that I won't be all that impressed. Doesn't mean the product is, in general, bad. I just know that I probably won't be interested. Same for you when I rave about some band. If you hate them, fine by me. They are bad to you. Won't tumble over my world. Now if Killsaly didn't like them, than I'd wonder what was up.

I can't stand soft greasy bacon wrapped around stuff either. Doesn't make me wrong and some squishy bacon eater right no matter how many health nuts might side with me. It's a PREFERENCE. Get it?

By the way, when I select a beer to drink that I'm not all that familiar with, I go by the words. The descriptions. Never any kind of number. I don't trust them when it comes to beer. Almost made that mistake once on a beer and was even told by the brewer that I probably wouldn't like it if I don't like hoppy beers. There was something about the wording that had my interest so I went with it. Glad that I went with my instinct based on the words because so far, it's still one of my favorite beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on April 10, 2013, 12:03:19 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 11:48:56 am

I can't stand soft greasy bacon wrapped around stuff either. Doesn't make me wrong and some squishy bacon eater right no matter how many health nuts might side with me. It's a PREFERENCE. Get it?

The Passenger has bacon wrapped deep fried peanut butter cups.  The bacon is a little squishy, which typically weirds me out a bit, but it's absolutely delicious in this situation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:03:33 pm
Are you referring to the real world, one in which you don't know jack shit about beer?

It's the equivalent of me listening to a shoegaze album, and trying to say something constructive about it.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 11:48:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:09:13 am

It's not a matter of being right or wrong, it's opinion and taste. If I go by your words, than I would be wrong for some beer tasting bad to me. Since when does some poll know my personal tastes? As I stated, in my world, the stuff is disgusting!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:39:19 am
My liver cares if it's a 95 rating. There's "so many good beers out there" that I couldn't possibly try them all. If I see a beer that has a 95 rating, and plenty of reviews, i'm going to opt to try that over some other beer that has an 85 rating. Why should I waste my time on "good" beer when better beer is available?


Quote from: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:34:43 am

who cares if a beer is a 95 rating?  there's so many good beers out there, why do we need to differentiate them by some bullshit point system? everyones palate and style taste is different.  it's like pitchfork, but for beer.


Because the 85 beer might taste a lot better to you.  Have a mind of you own.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:12:51 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:39:19 am
My liver cares if it's a 95 rating. There's "so many good beers out there" that I couldn't possibly try them all. If I see a beer that has a 95 rating, and plenty of reviews, i'm going to opt to try that over some other beer that has an 85 rating. Why should I waste my time on "good" beer when better beer is available?


Quote from: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:34:43 am

who cares if a beer is a 95 rating?  there's so many good beers out there, why do we need to differentiate them by some bullshit point system? everyones palate and style taste is different.  it's like pitchfork, but for beer.


Because the 85 beer might taste a lot better to you.  Have a mind of you own.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Certain people prefer to play the beer snobs around here with no respect whatsoever to what others may think or prefer. I don't need other snobs telling me what I can drink and what I can't. That makes them extremely pretentious and unpleasant. They can follow their numbers and other sheep herders all they want. Not my preferred pasture. I'd much rather discover unpopular things that appeal more to my taste rather than stick with what some snot nosed number freak thinks they should like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:16:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 10, 2013, 11:35:36 am
Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 09:53:36 am
It isn't like wine ratings which are done by one organization. 

oh look... a.front is wrong again.

there isn't one wine rating organization.  the most widely referenced ratings are those from Wine Spectator, Wine Enthusiast and Wine Advocate.  these are magazines/websites.  they will each rate a wine differently.

I am not wrong at all. I am saying a rating by Wine Advocate is one organization.  So it is that organization's view.  Even with three they don't all rate the same wines.  It is hard to have a mob mentality with so few organization rating wine.  Beer Advocate is a ton of people all just following each other.  Still I will buy wine that isn't rated.  Most of it turns out to be good.  Especially Malbecs.  We should have a wine thread.   Hopefully it would be people just drinking wine and saying whether they liked it or not and not I have to drink highly rated wine BS.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:17:07 pm
Quote from: imbecile on April 10, 2013, 12:03:19 pm
Quote from: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 11:48:56 am

I can't stand soft greasy bacon wrapped around stuff either. Doesn't make me wrong and some squishy bacon eater right no matter how many health nuts might side with me. It's a PREFERENCE. Get it?

The Passenger has bacon wrapped deep fried peanut butter cups.  The bacon is a little squishy, which typically weirds me out a bit, but it's absolutely delicious in this situation.

If that bacon was nice and crispy, I probably would like that too, and I tend to not even like peanut butter.

Trader Joe's sells some dark chocolate covered peanut butter cups that get me past my peanut butter dislike. They would be nice with some good cripsy bacon with a pint of a nice sweet maplely stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:17:24 pm
I've had about half of the beers in the top 100 on this list.

http://beeradvocate.com/lists/top

I've also had my fair share of 85 beers. I can't think of a single 85 beer that was better than anything that's in the top 100 (that I've had) on that list.

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:39:19 am
My liver cares if it's a 95 rating. There's "so many good beers out there" that I couldn't possibly try them all. If I see a beer that has a 95 rating, and plenty of reviews, i'm going to opt to try that over some other beer that has an 85 rating. Why should I waste my time on "good" beer when better beer is available?


Quote from: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:34:43 am

who cares if a beer is a 95 rating?  there's so many good beers out there, why do we need to differentiate them by some bullshit point system? everyones palate and style taste is different.  it's like pitchfork, but for beer.


Because the 85 beer might taste a lot better to you.  Have a mind of you own.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:21:33 pm
But what is your mode of discovery? Randomly trying whatever shitty beers they have in the limited distribution bars in Ocean City or wherever it is you live?

If I want to learn about something, anything, I'm going to read as much by people who are passionate about the subject as I can. And take their advice and go on my own from there. Not go out and just start randomly, blindly trying stuff.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:12:51 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:39:19 am
My liver cares if it's a 95 rating. There's "so many good beers out there" that I couldn't possibly try them all. If I see a beer that has a 95 rating, and plenty of reviews, i'm going to opt to try that over some other beer that has an 85 rating. Why should I waste my time on "good" beer when better beer is available?


Quote from: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:34:43 am

who cares if a beer is a 95 rating?  there's so many good beers out there, why do we need to differentiate them by some bullshit point system? everyones palate and style taste is different.  it's like pitchfork, but for beer.


Because the 85 beer might taste a lot better to you.  Have a mind of you own.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Certain people prefer to play the beer snobs around here with no respect whatsoever to what others may think or prefer. I don't need other snobs telling me what I can drink and what I can't. That makes them extremely pretentious and unpleasant. They can follow their numbers and other sheep herders all they want. Not my preferred pasture. I'd much rather discover unpopular things that appeal more to my taste rather than stick with what some snot nosed number freak thinks they should like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:24:32 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:21:33 pm
But what is your mode of discovery? Randomly trying whatever shitty beers they have in the limited distribution bars in Ocean City or wherever it is you live?

If I want to learn about something, anything, I'm going to read as much by people who are passionate about the subject as I can. And take their advice and go on my own from there. Not go out and just start randomly, blindly trying stuff.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:12:51 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:39:19 am
My liver cares if it's a 95 rating. There's "so many good beers out there" that I couldn't possibly try them all. If I see a beer that has a 95 rating, and plenty of reviews, i'm going to opt to try that over some other beer that has an 85 rating. Why should I waste my time on "good" beer when better beer is available?


Quote from: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:34:43 am

who cares if a beer is a 95 rating?  there's so many good beers out there, why do we need to differentiate them by some bullshit point system? everyones palate and style taste is different.  it's like pitchfork, but for beer.


Because the 85 beer might taste a lot better to you.  Have a mind of you own.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Certain people prefer to play the beer snobs around here with no respect whatsoever to what others may think or prefer. I don't need other snobs telling me what I can drink and what I can't. That makes them extremely pretentious and unpleasant. They can follow their numbers and other sheep herders all they want. Not my preferred pasture. I'd much rather discover unpopular things that appeal more to my taste rather than stick with what some snot nosed number freak thinks they should like.

Why not?  Are you afraid of making a decision based on your own opinion?  So if you go to tap house that has 50 beers you wont' drink one you haven't heard of before?  Where is your sense of discovery?  To me your view on this is no different than the people who only will drink bud light, miller light or coors light. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:26:55 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:16:37 pm

Beer Advocate is a ton of people all just following each other.

I see this exact mentality all the time with music. Not just on this board but everywhere. There are a whole lot of bands that my usual crowd think is great and I do not like at all. That's why I don't trust music rating systems either. Besides, if I stuck only to the top rated stuff, I'd miss out on all kinds of other pleasant surprises. By ignoring ratings, it also allows me more variety when I opt to stray from my usual staples.

James, you can keep drinking as many Beer Advocate top rated beers you want. Doesn't phase me in the least. I'm not your liver, a family member, nor that close of a friend. Drink yourself silly for all I care. It makes no difference in my world. Just stay the fuck out of my beer glass!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:27:47 pm
If there were 50 shows at the 9:30 Club over a three month period, and 20 of them were by bands you love, and you could only reasonably go to three or four of them, how likely would you be to choose to go to a show by a band you've never heard of?

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:24:32 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:21:33 pm
But what is your mode of discovery? Randomly trying whatever shitty beers they have in the limited distribution bars in Ocean City or wherever it is you live?

If I want to learn about something, anything, I'm going to read as much by people who are passionate about the subject as I can. And take their advice and go on my own from there. Not go out and just start randomly, blindly trying stuff.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:12:51 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 11:39:19 am
My liver cares if it's a 95 rating. There's "so many good beers out there" that I couldn't possibly try them all. If I see a beer that has a 95 rating, and plenty of reviews, i'm going to opt to try that over some other beer that has an 85 rating. Why should I waste my time on "good" beer when better beer is available?


Quote from: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 11:34:43 am

who cares if a beer is a 95 rating?  there's so many good beers out there, why do we need to differentiate them by some bullshit point system? everyones palate and style taste is different.  it's like pitchfork, but for beer.


Because the 85 beer might taste a lot better to you.  Have a mind of you own.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Certain people prefer to play the beer snobs around here with no respect whatsoever to what others may think or prefer. I don't need other snobs telling me what I can drink and what I can't. That makes them extremely pretentious and unpleasant. They can follow their numbers and other sheep herders all they want. Not my preferred pasture. I'd much rather discover unpopular things that appeal more to my taste rather than stick with what some snot nosed number freak thinks they should like.

Why not?  Are you afraid of making a decision based on your own opinion?  So if you go to tap house that has 50 beers you wont' drink one you haven't heard of before?  Where is your sense of discovery?  To me your view on this is no different than the people who only will drink bud light, miller light or coors light. 


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:31:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:21:33 pm
But what is your mode of discovery? Randomly trying whatever shitty beers they have in the limited distribution bars in Ocean City or wherever it is you live?

If I want to learn about something, anything, I'm going to read as much by people who are passionate about the subject as I can. And take their advice and go on my own from there. Not go out and just start randomly, blindly trying stuff.

It's not random and, again, you missed out on some 'words' I wrote earlier. We have more than you ASSume but living in a slightly remote area does limit its distribution numbers. That's the trade off. I value easy traffic, the beach, small town life, and a number of other things to getting drunk on beer all the time. That's pretty damn low on my list. But, go ahead and drink up! I guess if that's all you have going for you, than maybe I now understand why you are so obsessed with it. Cheers!

Even if it were my favorite beer and Beer Advocate gave it a full 100%, if all I had to look forward to was the bottom of my beer glass, than I'd realize that I had to do some serious re-evalution of my life.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:39:48 pm
Killians Irish Stout a Stout beer by Coors Brewing Company (MillerCoors), a brewery in Golden, Colorado.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

That was just for you James since I knew that you would appreciate it so much. ;)

I stuck with the $3 pints of Killens Stout. Not all that great but the price sure was.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 10, 2013, 12:40:26 pm
oh god . . . just shut up all of you.  jesus fucking christ.  drink your stupid beer, what ever it is.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:43:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:39:48 pm
Killians Irish Stout a Stout beer by Coors Brewing Company (MillerCoors), a brewery in Golden, Colorado.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

That was just for you James since I knew that you would appreciate it so much. ;)

I stuck with the $3 pints of Killens Stout. Not all that great but the price sure was.

Yeah, and you didn't read what I said about it later.  ::)

Go fall in your beer glass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:43:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:39:48 pm
Killians Irish Stout a Stout beer by Coors Brewing Company (MillerCoors), a brewery in Golden, Colorado.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

That was just for you James since I knew that you would appreciate it so much. ;)

I stuck with the $3 pints of Killens Stout. Not all that great but the price sure was.

Blue Moon is made by Coors too.  I would say that is a decent Beer.  For my wedding I was able to pick one craft beer and I picked Dogfish Head 60 minute.  Then for my 3 mainstreams I picked Blue Moon, New Castle, and Amstel Light.  Seemed like a good variety.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 10, 2013, 12:44:20 pm
or better yet . . . give up beer and smoke pot.  maybe youll realize that yelling is dumb.  god, can you believe this is coming from me?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:44:28 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 10, 2013, 12:40:26 pm
oh god . . . just shut up all of you.  jesus fucking christ.  drink your stupid beer, what ever it is.  

That's what Atomic and I have been saying all along.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 12:47:21 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 10, 2013, 12:40:26 pm
oh god . . . just shut up all of you.  jesus fucking christ.  drink your stupid beer, what ever it is.  

you shut up. i just broke out the popcorn. dont spoil this for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:47:38 pm
Blue Moon decent? hahaha. You're funny. That's a joke, right?

Who forced you to serve three shitty beers (and a decent Dogfish lawnmower beer) at your wedding? It seems like it's your wedding, you should be able to have what you want.


Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:43:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:39:48 pm
Killians Irish Stout a Stout beer by Coors Brewing Company (MillerCoors), a brewery in Golden, Colorado.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

That was just for you James since I knew that you would appreciate it so much. ;)

I stuck with the $3 pints of Killens Stout. Not all that great but the price sure was.

Blue Moon is made by Coors too.  I would say that is a decent Beer.  For my wedding I was able to pick one craft beer and I picked Dogfish Head 60 minute.  Then for my 3 mainstreams I picked Blue Moon, New Castle, and Amstel Light.  Seemed like a good variety.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:49:08 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 10, 2013, 12:47:21 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 10, 2013, 12:40:26 pm
oh god . . . just shut up all of you.  jesus fucking christ.  drink your stupid beer, what ever it is.  

you shut up. i just broke out the popcorn. dont spoil this for me.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, Walkie. Go take a walk. We've got a good bar fight going on here. ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:51:00 pm
Now James is dictating what one can have and not have at one's wedding.

The booze seems to have turned him into a little dictator wannabe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:51:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:47:38 pm
Blue Moon decent? hahaha. You're funny. That's a joke, right?

Who forced you to serve three shitty beers (and a decent Dogfish lawnmower beer) at your wedding? It seems like it's your wedding, you should be able to have what you want.


Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:43:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:39:48 pm
Killians Irish Stout a Stout beer by Coors Brewing Company (MillerCoors), a brewery in Golden, Colorado.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

That was just for you James since I knew that you would appreciate it so much. ;)

I stuck with the $3 pints of Killens Stout. Not all that great but the price sure was.

Blue Moon is made by Coors too.  I would say that is a decent Beer.  For my wedding I was able to pick one craft beer and I picked Dogfish Head 60 minute.  Then for my 3 mainstreams I picked Blue Moon, New Castle, and Amstel Light.  Seemed like a good variety.

It is decent beer.  So is New Castle.  Here is a clue you pick beers other people might actually like.  So say even if I could have picked the top 4 beers from Beer Advocate if no one would drink it what would be the point.  Some people only drink light beer.    

When you have a caterer you have different plans.  I got the top of the line liquor plan from the best caterer in Baltimore area.   I guess I could have a DJ and play all shitty music that gets good reviews and watch everyone have a miserable time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:53:01 pm
It sounds like HE was dictated to about what he could have at his wedding. Because nobody who calls themselves a beer lover would ever purposely choose that combination.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:51:00 pm
Now James is dictating what one can have and not have at one's wedding.

The booze seems to have turned him into a little dictator wannabe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:56:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:53:01 pm
It sounds like HE was dictated to about what he could have at his wedding. Because nobody who calls themselves a beer lover would ever purposely choose that combination.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:51:00 pm
Now James is dictating what one can have and not have at one's wedding.

The booze seems to have turned him into a little dictator wannabe.

Sure they would.  Because it is not about just themselves. What craft beer and what 3 mainstream beers would you have selected?  I had the option to purchase my own beer, wine, and liquor and then just have them serve it but I didn't want the trouble of doing all that.  I had enough to do without transporting alcohol around.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:59:23 pm
But it YOUR FUCKING WEDDING. Pick what you like, who cares what others would like.

If I had to pick four that would appeal to a wide range of people, I'd pick:

a crisp lager (Victory Prima Pils)
a mildly to moderately hoppy pale ale (Dales Pale Ale or Sierra Nevada PA)
some kind of Belgian Golden or saison (Ommegang Henepin)
and some kind of porter or stout (Founders Porter)

and voila, I've very easily stayed away from medicre macro swill and instead gone with four stellar craft beers with mass appeal potential (and stayed away from anything excessively hoppy/sour/roasty/etc)

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:51:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:47:38 pm
Blue Moon decent? hahaha. You're funny. That's a joke, right?

Who forced you to serve three shitty beers (and a decent Dogfish lawnmower beer) at your wedding? It seems like it's your wedding, you should be able to have what you want.


Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:43:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:39:48 pm
Killians Irish Stout a Stout beer by Coors Brewing Company (MillerCoors), a brewery in Golden, Colorado.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

That was just for you James since I knew that you would appreciate it so much. ;)

I stuck with the $3 pints of Killens Stout. Not all that great but the price sure was.

Blue Moon is made by Coors too.  I would say that is a decent Beer.  For my wedding I was able to pick one craft beer and I picked Dogfish Head 60 minute.  Then for my 3 mainstreams I picked Blue Moon, New Castle, and Amstel Light.  Seemed like a good variety.

It is decent beer.  So is New Castle.  Here is a clue you pick beers other people might actually like.  So say even if I could have picked the top 4 beers from Beer Advocate if no one would drink it what would be the point.  Some people only drink light beer.    

When you have a caterer you have different plans.  I got the top of the line liquor plan from the best caterer in Baltimore area.   I guess I could have a DJ and play all shitty music that gets good reviews and watch everyone have a miserable time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 01:05:20 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:56:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:53:01 pm
It sounds like HE was dictated to about what he could have at his wedding. Because nobody who calls themselves a beer lover would ever purposely choose that combination.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 10, 2013, 12:51:00 pm
Now James is dictating what one can have and not have at one's wedding.

The booze seems to have turned him into a little dictator wannabe.

Sure they would.  Because it is not about just themselves. What craft beer and what 3 mainstream beers would you have selected?  I had the option to purchase my own beer, wine, and liquor and then just have them serve it but I didn't want the trouble of doing all that.  I had enough to do without transporting alcohol around.

Atomic, be careful about how James answers this. I would venture to say he'll give a list that he wouldn't live up to. For one, he's thrifty. Don't think for a moment that he'd waste extra money on higher end beer only for a general wedding crowd. Not saying that would be wrong either. Why throw money away when, as you stated, the general crowd wouldn't be into craft beers? Too many of them actually prefer their Lites, Coors, Buds and Heinekens. This is a wedding which is a merging of families and friends; not a select party of beer drinking snobs which would be a whole different ball of wax.

Besides, James would probably pull his old trick of blaming his wife for something when he can't weasel out of the truth. She wanted it or that was the contract and she wanted said set-up. He's like that.

If beer is the most important part of any wedding, than maybe it's a drinking party one should have, not a reception celebrating a wedding.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 10, 2013, 01:05:38 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 10, 2013, 12:44:20 pm
or better yet . . . give up beer and smoke pot.

should we start "the pot thread", where we discuss indica vs. sativa, where to get the best diesel, etc?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 01:11:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:59:23 pm
But it YOUR FUCKING WEDDING. Pick what you like, who cares what others would like.

If I had to pick four that would appeal to a wide range of people, I'd pick:

a crisp lager (Victory Prima Pils)
a mildly to moderately hoppy pale ale (Dales Pale Ale or Sierra Nevada PA)
some kind of Belgian Golden or saison (Ommegang Henepin)
and some kind of porter or stout (Founders Porter)

and voila, I've very easily stayed away from medicre macro swill and instead gone with four stellar craft beers with mass appeal potential (and stayed away from anything excessively hoppy/sour/roasty/etc)

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:51:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:47:38 pm
Blue Moon decent? hahaha. You're funny. That's a joke, right?

Who forced you to serve three shitty beers (and a decent Dogfish lawnmower beer) at your wedding? It seems like it's your wedding, you should be able to have what you want.


Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:43:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:39:48 pm
Killians Irish Stout a Stout beer by Coors Brewing Company (MillerCoors), a brewery in Golden, Colorado.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

That was just for you James since I knew that you would appreciate it so much. ;)

I stuck with the $3 pints of Killens Stout. Not all that great but the price sure was.

Blue Moon is made by Coors too.  I would say that is a decent Beer.  For my wedding I was able to pick one craft beer and I picked Dogfish Head 60 minute.  Then for my 3 mainstreams I picked Blue Moon, New Castle, and Amstel Light.  Seemed like a good variety.

It is decent beer.  So is New Castle.  Here is a clue you pick beers other people might actually like.  So say even if I could have picked the top 4 beers from Beer Advocate if no one would drink it what would be the point.  Some people only drink light beer.    

When you have a caterer you have different plans.  I got the top of the line liquor plan from the best caterer in Baltimore area.   I guess I could have a DJ and play all shitty music that gets good reviews and watch everyone have a miserable time.

First off Dale's Pale Ale tastes like shit.  I like all the beers I selected.  And I drank the Dogfish head.  Second, you didn't play by the rules.  you picked 4 craft beers. 

And it was my wedding so I served rockfish, chicken kebob, and duck.  No beef , pork or lamb because I don't eat that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 10, 2013, 01:18:07 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 10, 2013, 01:05:38 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 10, 2013, 12:44:20 pm
or better yet . . . give up beer and smoke pot.

should we start "the pot thread", where we discuss indica vs. sativa, where to get the best diesel, etc?

thank you for the great idea.  and boy, im glad this "bar fight" is allowed to go on in here.  so exciting, so thrilling, so awesome.  could somebody bite somebodys ear to make this good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 02:33:53 pm
Please remind me what the rules are in picking beers for my own wedding?

If it's MY wedding, I'm picking four craft beers with broad ranging appeal.

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 01:11:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:59:23 pm
But it YOUR FUCKING WEDDING. Pick what you like, who cares what others would like.

If I had to pick four that would appeal to a wide range of people, I'd pick:

a crisp lager (Victory Prima Pils)
a mildly to moderately hoppy pale ale (Dales Pale Ale or Sierra Nevada PA)
some kind of Belgian Golden or saison (Ommegang Henepin)
and some kind of porter or stout (Founders Porter)

and voila, I've very easily stayed away from medicre macro swill and instead gone with four stellar craft beers with mass appeal potential (and stayed away from anything excessively hoppy/sour/roasty/etc)

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:51:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:47:38 pm
Blue Moon decent? hahaha. You're funny. That's a joke, right?

Who forced you to serve three shitty beers (and a decent Dogfish lawnmower beer) at your wedding? It seems like it's your wedding, you should be able to have what you want.


Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 12:43:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 12:39:48 pm
Killians Irish Stout a Stout beer by Coors Brewing Company (MillerCoors), a brewery in Golden, Colorado.


Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 09, 2013, 07:30:04 pm
Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: Jaguar on April 09, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
Today I tasted a Firestone IPA.

All I can say is that it was the most repulsive beer that I have ever tasted in my life!  :-X

That was just for you James since I knew that you would appreciate it so much. ;)

I stuck with the $3 pints of Killens Stout. Not all that great but the price sure was.

Blue Moon is made by Coors too.  I would say that is a decent Beer.  For my wedding I was able to pick one craft beer and I picked Dogfish Head 60 minute.  Then for my 3 mainstreams I picked Blue Moon, New Castle, and Amstel Light.  Seemed like a good variety.

It is decent beer.  So is New Castle.  Here is a clue you pick beers other people might actually like.  So say even if I could have picked the top 4 beers from Beer Advocate if no one would drink it what would be the point.  Some people only drink light beer.    

When you have a caterer you have different plans.  I got the top of the line liquor plan from the best caterer in Baltimore area.   I guess I could have a DJ and play all shitty music that gets good reviews and watch everyone have a miserable time.

First off Dale's Pale Ale tastes like shit.  I like all the beers I selected.  And I drank the Dogfish head.  Second, you didn't play by the rules.  you picked 4 craft beers. 

And it was my wedding so I served rockfish, chicken kebob, and duck.  No beef , pork or lamb because I don't eat that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 02:40:49 pm


The rules aren't for your wedding. they are for my wedding.  I told you why i picked the caterer.  They are the best.  I told you why I didn't supply my own beer and liquor and wine.  So you are argueing with me about the beer I picked for my wedding but you can't even come up with a list on your own.  And the first beer you picked is an awful beer. I don't know the rest.  Actually Oskar Blues makes some good brews.  mamma little pils isn't bad.  But Dales Pale Ale is the worst.  Blue moon is much better.  Oskar Blues does come in cans which is why I used to buy it when I played kickball glass bottles were prohibited.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 03:43:52 pm
Sorry, I actually composed my post independent of your questioning.

10 years ago, before I got into beer, I got married. The beer we served was probably similiar to what you served. We paid more attention to the (vegetarian) food, music selection, and writing our own vows. The beer and wine (no liquor) was an afterthought.

How could you compare Blue Moon to Dales? They are completely different styles. That's like comparing Taylor Swift tp Arcade Fire.

If you're going to compare Blue Moon to anything, compare it to Allagash White, Hoegaarden, St Bernardus Wit, Port City Wit, or your aforementioned Dogfish Namaste. And watch it FAIL in comparison.

Dale's isn't the best hoppy beer, but it's something more middle of the road. If I were picking something hoppy for myself yet still widely available, I'd go with Sculpin, Torpedo, or Jaguar's hated Union Jack.

And by "I" I actually mean "we".

I suspect that you just don't like hoppy beers, period. Can you name a few hoppy beers that you DO like?

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 02:40:49 pm


The rules aren't for your wedding. they are for my wedding.  I told you why i picked the caterer.  They are the best.  I told you why I didn't supply my own beer and liquor and wine.  So you are argueing with me about the beer I picked for my wedding but you can't even come up with a list on your own.  And the first beer you picked is an awful beer. I don't know the rest.  Actually Oskar Blues makes some good brews.  mamma little pils isn't bad.  But Dales Pale Ale is the worst.  Blue moon is much better.  Oskar Blues does come in cans which is why I used to buy it when I played kickball glass bottles were prohibited.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 03:54:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 03:43:52 pm
Sorry, I actually composed my post independent of your questioning.

10 years ago, before I got into beer, I got married. The beer we served was probably similiar to what you served. We paid more attention to the (vegetarian) food, music selection, and writing our own vows. The beer and wine (no liquor) was an afterthought.

How could you compare Blue Moon to Dales? They are completely different styles. That's like comparing Taylor Swift tp Arcade Fire.

If you're going to compare Blue Moon to anything, compare it to Allagash White, Hoegaarden, St Bernardus Wit, Port City Wit, or your aforementioned Dogfish Namaste. And watch it FAIL in comparison.

Dale's isn't the best hoppy beer, but it's something more middle of the road. If I were picking something hoppy for myself yet still widely available, I'd go with Sculpin, Torpedo, or Jaguar's hated Union Jack.

And by "I" I actually mean "we".

I suspect that you just don't like hoppy beers, period. Can you name a few hoppy beers that you DO like?

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 02:40:49 pm


The rules aren't for your wedding. they are for my wedding.  I told you why i picked the caterer.  They are the best.  I told you why I didn't supply my own beer and liquor and wine.  So you are argueing with me about the beer I picked for my wedding but you can't even come up with a list on your own.  And the first beer you picked is an awful beer. I don't know the rest.  Actually Oskar Blues makes some good brews.  mamma little pils isn't bad.  But Dales Pale Ale is the worst.  Blue moon is much better.  Oskar Blues does come in cans which is why I used to buy it when I played kickball glass bottles were prohibited.

Of course Alagesh White and Hoegarden are better than Blue Moon. That doesn't mean Blue Moon isn't a decent Beer.  My wife had Alagesh White on our first date.  And Hoegarden is her favorite beer.  And she loves Namaste.  She even drinks that mess Troegs Dreamweaver when we come to 930 club.  And she still enjoys Blue Moon if that is only wheat beer available.

As for hoppy beers I like Dogfish Head 60 minute and Flying Dog Raging Bitch.   Also Heavy Seas Loose Cannon. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 10, 2013, 03:58:26 pm
The bar was open for our wedding before the ceremony.  It was the best wedding ever.  10 years later people STILL talk about it all the time.

We bought our own booze and had a quality stocked liquor bar...Yuengling, High Life, and Heineken.  No craft beers, but they served their purpose.

Oh, and people still drink out of their pint glass favors too.

(and yes, still very happily married)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 04:04:55 pm
Well it looks like your wife's taste in witbiers and your taste in hoppy beers are in agreement with Beer Advocate scores, as all of the witbiers you mention (save Blue Moon and Dreamweaver) are in top 50 witbiers, and Dogfish 60, Raging Bitch, and Loose Cannon score 92, 89, and 91 respectively.

Have you tried any of the basic west coast ipa's? Green Flash West Coast IPA, Sierra Torpedo, Firestone Walker Union Jack, Stone IPA, Ballast Point Sculpin?

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 03:54:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 03:43:52 pm
Sorry, I actually composed my post independent of your questioning.

10 years ago, before I got into beer, I got married. The beer we served was probably similiar to what you served. We paid more attention to the (vegetarian) food, music selection, and writing our own vows. The beer and wine (no liquor) was an afterthought.

How could you compare Blue Moon to Dales? They are completely different styles. That's like comparing Taylor Swift tp Arcade Fire.

If you're going to compare Blue Moon to anything, compare it to Allagash White, Hoegaarden, St Bernardus Wit, Port City Wit, or your aforementioned Dogfish Namaste. And watch it FAIL in comparison.

Dale's isn't the best hoppy beer, but it's something more middle of the road. If I were picking something hoppy for myself yet still widely available, I'd go with Sculpin, Torpedo, or Jaguar's hated Union Jack.

And by "I" I actually mean "we".

I suspect that you just don't like hoppy beers, period. Can you name a few hoppy beers that you DO like?

Quote from: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 02:40:49 pm


The rules aren't for your wedding. they are for my wedding.  I told you why i picked the caterer.  They are the best.  I told you why I didn't supply my own beer and liquor and wine.  So you are argueing with me about the beer I picked for my wedding but you can't even come up with a list on your own.  And the first beer you picked is an awful beer. I don't know the rest.  Actually Oskar Blues makes some good brews.  mamma little pils isn't bad.  But Dales Pale Ale is the worst.  Blue moon is much better.  Oskar Blues does come in cans which is why I used to buy it when I played kickball glass bottles were prohibited.

Of course Alagesh White and Hoegarden are better than Blue Moon. That doesn't mean Blue Moon isn't a decent Beer.  My wife had Alagesh White on our first date.  And Hoegarden is her favorite beer.  And she loves Namaste.  She even drinks that mess Troegs Dreamweaver when we come to 930 club.  And she still enjoys Blue Moon if that is only wheat beer available.

As for hoppy beers I like Dogfish Head 60 minute and Flying Dog Raging Bitch.   Also Heavy Seas Loose Cannon. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 10, 2013, 04:21:11 pm
my wedding was better than all your weddings - BOOYAH!!!!!  :P
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 04:27:59 pm
My wedding cost less than all yours. (yet was still quite lovely)

Boo-yah!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 10, 2013, 04:40:26 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on April 10, 2013, 03:58:26 pm
The bar was open for our wedding before the ceremony.  It was the best wedding ever.  10 years later people STILL talk about it all the time.

our wedding was only 4 years ago, but otherwise sounds similar :)

at the time i was more into wine than beer, so we paid more attention to the wine and champagne.  we had a keg of harpoon summer wheat which was quite tasty... although it's not a stellar craft beer its taste is pure nostalgia for me.  it was a destination wedding so we tapped the keg on friday and kicked it on monday evening.

we got married on my in-laws' farm, so the second the ceremony was done we started uncorking bottles and pouring drafts.  since it was private property we could serve whatever we wanted, for however long as we wanted... we danced & drank until 3 AM. 

Quote from: brennser on April 10, 2013, 04:21:11 pm
my wedding was better than all your weddings - BOOYAH!!!!!  :P

did your wedding include a llama?  mine did ;D

Quote from: James Ford on April 10, 2013, 04:27:59 pm
My wedding cost less than all yours. (yet was still quite lovely)

Boo-yah!
 
challenge accepted.  we didn't pay any rental fees, bought food from the farm at cost, family did most of the prep, hired farm residents to cook & serve (cheap!), two friends DJ'ed on a decent borrowed PA, we didn't have an official... unless you had few to no guests, it'll be a challenge to beat our final bill on a per-guest basis (we had a little over 100 guests).  obviously eloping is going to be cheaper.

do we need to start a my-wedding-beats-your-wedding thread too?!?

back to the beer already... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on April 10, 2013, 04:58:11 pm
My wedding literally cost nothing. Not one penny.

Because we never actually got married but that's beside the point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 10, 2013, 05:08:40 pm
My first marriage we eloped.  Second marriage mom-in-law paid for all of it and my wife wanted top of the line stuff.  I think she spent  like 5000 dollars on her wedding dress.   All I cared about was the dj, the food and the beer.   DJ was good but he basically played what we had on our list.  THe only thing I think he chose on his own was "Rock Lobster" and that dumb Journey song that they play at every wedding these days. 

My music was Cocteau Twins "Lorelie" and we came out to Flaming Lips "Do You Realize".   First Dance was Magnetic Fields "Nothing Matters when were dancing"  I think that was my only input to things besides to food and beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 10, 2013, 07:58:44 pm
Deschutes Mirror Pond Pale Ale, Guinness, Stella, and Amstel Light were served at my wedding. Best wedding ever!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 10, 2013, 08:17:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 10, 2013, 07:58:44 pm
Deschutes Mirror Pond Pale Ale, Guinness, Stella, and Amstel Light were served at my wedding. Best wedding ever!!

i'd say you're batting .500 at best there... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 11, 2013, 09:20:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 10, 2013, 08:17:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 10, 2013, 07:58:44 pm
Deschutes Mirror Pond Pale Ale, Guinness, Stella, and Amstel Light were served at my wedding. Best wedding ever!!

i'd say you're batting .500 at best there... ;D

Other than Amstel Light, I thoroughly enjoy all of those beers. Also, we didn't have the option to pick absolutely any beer we wanted. These were the best options IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 09:58:35 am
Quote from: Yada on April 11, 2013, 09:20:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 10, 2013, 08:17:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 10, 2013, 07:58:44 pm
Deschutes Mirror Pond Pale Ale, Guinness, Stella, and Amstel Light were served at my wedding. Best wedding ever!!

i'd say you're batting .500 at best there... ;D

Other than Amstel Light, I thoroughly enjoy all of those beers. Also, we didn't have the option to pick absolutely any beer we wanted. These were the best options IMO.

What is wrong with Amstel Light?  What mass produced light beer, that is readily available here, is better than Amstel?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:02:49 am
There is no such thing as a good mass produced light beer. In' a pinch i'd have to say Guinness.

If you're concerned about calories, drink low 6% or less abv beers, drink less of them, and do aerobic exercise daily.

I know you put no stock in what beer advocate reviewers say, but Sam Adams Light scores respectably. Is that considered mass produced?

http://beeradvocate.com/lists/style/39


Quote from: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 09:58:35 am
Quote from: Yada on April 11, 2013, 09:20:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 10, 2013, 08:17:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 10, 2013, 07:58:44 pm
Deschutes Mirror Pond Pale Ale, Guinness, Stella, and Amstel Light were served at my wedding. Best wedding ever!!

i'd say you're batting .500 at best there... ;D

Other than Amstel Light, I thoroughly enjoy all of those beers. Also, we didn't have the option to pick absolutely any beer we wanted. These were the best options IMO.

What is wrong with Amstel Light?  What mass produced light beer, that is readily available here, is better than Amstel?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:04:32 am
pbr is better, cheaper, and you're not supporting terrorists.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:09:23 am
it's garbage

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:04:32 am
pbr is better, cheaper, and you're not supporting terrorists.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:09:37 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:04:32 am
pbr is better, cheaper, and you're not supporting terrorists.

PBR is the worst beer made.  And PBR isn't a brewing company.  They buy up breweries and then shut them down.  And Miller makes their swill for them.. If you honestly think PBR is better than even Bud light you should probably stop posting in this thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:13:40 am
Just for fun, Beer Advocate scores:

PBR 70
Amstel Light 57
Bud Light 47

Quote from: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:09:37 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:04:32 am
pbr is better, cheaper, and you're not supporting terrorists.

PBR is the worst beer made.  And PBR isn't a brewing company.  They buy up breweries and then shut them down.  And Miller makes their swill for them.. If you honestly think PBR is better than even Bud light you should probably stop posting in this thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:16:00 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:13:40 am
Just for fun, Beer Advocate scores:

PBR 70
Amstel Light 57
Bud Light 47

Quote from: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:09:37 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:04:32 am
pbr is better, cheaper, and you're not supporting terrorists.

PBR is the worst beer made.  And PBR isn't a brewing company.  They buy up breweries and then shut them down.  And Miller makes their swill for them.. If you honestly think PBR is better than even Bud light you should probably stop posting in this thread.

Shows herd mentality.  PBR has paid hipsters to go into bars and order PBR.   Evidently that hasn't worked in Baltimore because I see next to no one drinking the swill.  So PBR worked on marketing Nattie Bo in Baltimore to get some market share. 

I am sure if had PBR at my wedding no one would have drank any. Might as well get Milwaukees Best Light.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:19:56 am
hey, they won a blue ribbon for beer! at least it's made in 'mericuh, with a share of money goin' to thouse hardworkin' freedom-loving patrons at the miller breweries.  

and yes, i think pbr is miles better than bud light. different strokes for different folks.

two wonderful beers i had at pizza p last night:
-carlsberg carnegie porter
-oxbox freestyle #30 - a sour saison that's worth going out of your way for.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 11, 2013, 10:21:32 am
They won a blue ribbon at the world's fair in Chicago in 1893. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:24:47 am
Quote from: K8teebug on April 11, 2013, 10:21:32 am
They won a blue ribbon at the world's fair in Chicago in 1893. 

what awards did bud light win that year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:26:46 am
Does it make me a beer geek that I work near Union Station and am going to the Nats game afterwork but am making a point of going to Smoke And Barrel (in Adams Morgan) for beer and dinner (half price on all vegan options) tonight?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:27:30 am
Quote from: K8teebug on April 11, 2013, 10:21:32 am
They won a blue ribbon at the world's fair in Chicago in 1893. 

I am sure there are no similarities between the beer that won the blue ribbon and the beer that is sold now.  I was reading something about how PBR bought schlitz and how they then shut them down and then did their typical have Miller brew it for them.  And of course they lost all market share.  So they were trying to see if they could brew it to somewhat resemble actual schlitz beer but they couldn't find the recipe.  

Anyone who cares about beer won't buy PBR.  You might complain about IN Bev but atleast they own breweries.  And their beer doesn't double as a laxative like PBR marketed beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:28:57 am
I can honestly say I don't know that i've drank a single Bud Light in my 24 post-college years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:29:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:24:47 am
Quote from: K8teebug on April 11, 2013, 10:21:32 am
They won a blue ribbon at the world's fair in Chicago in 1893. 

what awards did bud light win that year?

Gold Medal, 2002 North American Beer Awards
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:30:42 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:28:57 am
I can honestly say I don't know that i've drank a single Bud Light in my 24 post-college years.

I had one at the baseball game last week.  It is quite similar to drinking water.   

From what i have read it is almost impossible for a home brewer to duplicate the taste.  As any flavors produced at all will stand out. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:31:37 am
I don't understand why a corporation owning breweries is supposed to be good or bad?


Quote from: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:27:30 am
Quote from: K8teebug on April 11, 2013, 10:21:32 am
They won a blue ribbon at the world's fair in Chicago in 1893. 

I am sure there are no similarities between the beer that won the blue ribbon and the beer that is sold now.  I was reading something about how PBR bought schlitz and how they then shut them down and then did their typical have Miller brew it for them.  And of course they lost all market share.  So they were trying to see if they could brew it to somewhat resemble actual schlitz beer but they couldn't find the recipe.  

Anyone who cares about beer won't buy PBR.  You might complain about IN Bev but atleast they own breweries.  And their beer doesn't double as a laxative like PBR marketed beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:32:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:26:46 am
Does it make me a beer geek that I work near Union Station and am going to the Nats game afterwork but am making a point of going to Smoke And Barrel (in Adams Morgan) for beer and dinner (half price on all vegan options) tonight?

perhaps. there deals are incredible - it's $4 local drafts too, right?

it's usually busy, but not crowded. and there draft list is always impressive. and there food is delicious.

it's probably my favorite bar these days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:34:58 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:31:37 am
I don't understand why a corporation owning breweries is supposed to be good or bad?


Quote from: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:27:30 am
Quote from: K8teebug on April 11, 2013, 10:21:32 am
They won a blue ribbon at the world's fair in Chicago in 1893. 

I am sure there are no similarities between the beer that won the blue ribbon and the beer that is sold now.  I was reading something about how PBR bought schlitz and how they then shut them down and then did their typical have Miller brew it for them.  And of course they lost all market share.  So they were trying to see if they could brew it to somewhat resemble actual schlitz beer but they couldn't find the recipe.  

Anyone who cares about beer won't buy PBR.  You might complain about IN Bev but atleast they own breweries.  And their beer doesn't double as a laxative like PBR marketed beers.

Well PBR buying breweries to shut them down can't be thought of a good thing can it?  And replacing the beer that was made with the same awful tasting beer and selling it under the same name can't be good.   I am sure if PBR bought out your favorite brewery and then just sold PBR under that name you wouldn't be pleased.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:36:33 am
Yes, $4 local drafts. But I can't pass up the Sculpin and Victory at Sea they have on draft. And two is about all I can handle.

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:32:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 11, 2013, 10:26:46 am
Does it make me a beer geek that I work near Union Station and am going to the Nats game afterwork but am making a point of going to Smoke And Barrel (in Adams Morgan) for beer and dinner (half price on all vegan options) tonight?

perhaps. there deals are incredible - it's $4 local drafts too, right?

it's usually busy, but not crowded. and there draft list is always impressive. and there food is delicious.

it's probably my favorite bar these days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:38:30 am
Quote from: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:34:58 am
Well PBR buying breweries to shut them down can't be thought of a good thing can it?  And replacing the beer that was made with the same awful tasting beer and selling it under the same name can't be good.   I am sure if PBR bought out your favorite brewery and then just sold PBR under that name you wouldn't be pleased.

i'm sorry, but what on earth are you talking about?

beyond moving from milkwaukee to LA after being bought out by some millionaire, i'm not sure i've ever heard of this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:48:38 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:38:30 am
Quote from: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 10:34:58 am
Well PBR buying breweries to shut them down can't be thought of a good thing can it?  And replacing the beer that was made with the same awful tasting beer and selling it under the same name can't be good.   I am sure if PBR bought out your favorite brewery and then just sold PBR under that name you wouldn't be pleased.

i'm sorry, but what on earth are you talking about?

beyond moving from milkwaukee to LA after being bought out by some millionaire, i'm not sure i've ever heard of this.

They didn't have a brewery in Milwaukee as they aren't a brewery. Pabst is a marketing company.  So it really doesn't matter where they are located.   


"B.R. Zoom, a marketing and advertising agency, played a key part in growing PBR. It helped manage a secret band of guerrilla marketers who were paid $35,000 to $50,000 a year to buy rounds of Pabst in places like Portland, Ore.; Seattle; Berkeley, Calif.; Brooklyn; and Chicago's Wicker Park neighborhood, where bike messengers, hipsters and artists had adopted the brand ? a phenomenon that grew out of Portland bars in the early 2000s.."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:54:25 am
that's not what i was asking. what breweries did they shut down beyond their own? and what beer did they replace?

and gee, that sounds like a terrible marketing campaign. how dare them market their product. to think, they could have used all that money to buy a 1 second super bowl ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f83AYIJiQUw

but fuck this. this is exactly what i complain about with you. you clog up good threads with stupidity.  for every one worthwhile post, you have 10 or 20 complete bullshit posts that aren't even worth reading.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 11:04:17 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:54:25 am
that's not what i was asking. what breweries did they shut down beyond their own? and what beer did they replace?

and gee, that sounds like a terrible marketing campaign. how dare them market their product. to think, they could have used all that money to buy a 1 second super bowl ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f83AYIJiQUw

but fuck this. this is exactly what i complain about with you. you clog up good threads with stupidity.  for every one worthwhile post, you have 10 or 20 complete bullshit posts that aren't even worth reading.

You are complaining about me telling you a company buys up breweries and shuts them down and then doesn't produce beer but just markets swill produced by another company by them. I thought you would be interested to know how they marketed their beers  to hipsters.  They didn't go to bars and say they were PBR reps. they pretended to be local hipsters having a good time. 

This is about beer.  How is this bullshit?  You are complaining about the truth?  THe only stupid thing I read was when you said PBR was a better beer than Amstel Light.  Which is clearly ridiculous. 

If you want to know what beers PBR replaced just look at the brands they own.  Everyone they bought out and then shut the brewery down.  Is there a Nattie Boh factory in Baltimore? A schlitz brewery in Milwaukee.  A PBR brewery anywhere.  A Strohs Brewery in Detroit? An Olympia Brewery in Washington State?  A lone star in texas? etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 11:08:13 am
Does anyone one know of any good craft lagers?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 11, 2013, 11:08:54 am
Miller High Life is the best light beer... and I.C. Light!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 11:14:03 am
we are arguing about a shitty beer vs another shitty beer. who cares, they are all shitty, and they serve a place.

but i was simply asking to provide background about buying up breweries and shut them down. i can't find anything about that.  this article (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-05-13/business/ct-biz-0514-pabst-20110513_1_pabst-blue-ribbon-schlitz-pabst-brewing) gave me the best history, and also revealed that PBR owns natty bo.  

seems like no shitty beer is safe to drink.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 11:15:10 am
Quote from: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 11:08:13 am
Does anyone one know of any good craft lagers?

bruery humulus. 

but expensive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 11:17:48 am
Quote from: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 11:04:17 am
If you want to know what beers PBR replaced just look at the brands they own.  Everyone they bought out and then shut the brewery down.  Is there a Nattie Boh factory in Baltimore? A schlitz brewery in Milwaukee.  A PBR brewery anywhere.  A Strohs Brewery in Detroit? An Olympia Brewery in Washington State?  A lone star in texas? etc. etc. etc.

i now see what you're referring to.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 11, 2013, 12:29:05 pm
Carlsberg? i.e. big Carlsberg?

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:19:56 am
two wonderful beers i had at pizza p last night:
-carlsberg carnegie porter
-oxbox freestyle #30 - a sour saison that's worth going out of your way for.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 01:50:05 pm
Quote from: brennser on April 11, 2013, 12:29:05 pm
Carlsberg? i.e. big Carlsberg?

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 11, 2013, 10:19:56 am
two wonderful beers i had at pizza p last night:
-carlsberg carnegie porter
-oxbox freestyle #30 - a sour saison that's worth going out of your way for.

yeah. big, evil carlsberg. on cask, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 11, 2013, 03:56:58 pm
Quote
did your wedding include a llama?  mine did

we had two llama's actually
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 11, 2013, 04:38:07 pm
Quote from: brennser on April 11, 2013, 03:56:58 pm
Quote
did your wedding include a llama?  mine did

we had two llama's actually

I didn't even know Llamas were options.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 11, 2013, 04:48:26 pm
Quote from: brennser on April 11, 2013, 03:56:58 pm
Quote
did your wedding include a llama?  mine did

we had two llama's actually

AH DUN BEEN TOLD.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 12, 2013, 09:28:11 am
Good article on the American craft beer scene as seen through the eyes of a Brit...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21541887
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 12, 2013, 02:29:03 pm
given the conversation about beer styles and whatnot, i thought i'd share one of my favorite blog reads this past year.

Shut up about Barclay Perkins (http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/)

the research, knowledge, and (IMO) unpretentious discourse of beer history in this blog is seriously something to appreciate. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 14, 2013, 04:36:52 pm
Sitting in a bar in nyc prior to my train, kbs is $35 a bottle, lolz!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 15, 2013, 09:23:32 am
While some people might say that all microbrewed American ipa's all taste alike, others might argue that all macrobrewed lagers taste alike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PSRA7k_qEKA

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 15, 2013, 02:14:06 pm
I don't read this thread as I'm a wino and not a beer guy.  But my local Whole Foods has a bar that I like to frequent on Sunday Nights after I drink my way across my city and last night we were joined by some friends of ours who are beer people.

Our friend was talking to the bartender about some special beer that's going to be here on Wednesday and how he has to get here early because they're only going to have 20 boxes and they're never going to reach the shelves in the stores - the only way to get them is to be at the bar on Wednesday before a certain time.

So I asked, "why not just charge $100 a bottle then?"  and it was like blasphemy.  Why is beer so different?  If I want a bottle of Silver Oak, I'm prepared to drop some serious cash, but even the thought of the beer market doing this sent everyone into a tizzy.  Instead, you're all going to queue up like idiots for the chance at what is apparently an enjoyable beer instead of reserving yours by pricing out people, like every other good out there.  I don't get it.  Is the market for craft beers just not mature enough for that yet?     
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 15, 2013, 03:34:37 pm
Grab me a bottle of that Parabola and send it my way, willya?

Quote from: vansmack on April 15, 2013, 02:14:06 pm
I don't read this thread as I'm a wino and not a beer guy.  But my local Whole Foods has a bar that I like to frequent on Sunday Nights after I drink my way across my city and last night we were joined by some friends of ours who are beer people.

Our friend was talking to the bartender about some special beer that's going to be here on Wednesday and how he has to get here early because they're only going to have 20 boxes and they're never going to reach the shelves in the stores - the only way to get them is to be at the bar on Wednesday before a certain time.

So I asked, "why not just charge $100 a bottle then?"  and it was like blasphemy.  Why is beer so different?  If I want a bottle of Silver Oak, I'm prepared to drop some serious cash, but even the thought of the beer market doing this sent everyone into a tizzy.  Instead, you're all going to queue up like idiots for the chance at what is apparently an enjoyable beer instead of reserving yours by pricing out people, like every other good out there.  I don't get it.  Is the market for craft beers just not mature enough for that yet?     
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 15, 2013, 04:09:45 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 15, 2013, 02:14:06 pm
Silver Oak  

That's some good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 15, 2013, 07:14:03 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 15, 2013, 02:14:06 pm
I don't read this thread as I'm a wino and not a beer guy.  But my local Whole Foods has a bar that I like to frequent on Sunday Nights after I drink my way across my city and last night we were joined by some friends of ours who are beer people.

Our friend was talking to the bartender about some special beer that's going to be here on Wednesday and how he has to get here early because they're only going to have 20 boxes and they're never going to reach the shelves in the stores - the only way to get them is to be at the bar on Wednesday before a certain time.

So I asked, "why not just charge $100 a bottle then?"  and it was like blasphemy.  Why is beer so different?  If I want a bottle of Silver Oak, I'm prepared to drop some serious cash, but even the thought of the beer market doing this sent everyone into a tizzy.  Instead, you're all going to queue up like idiots for the chance at what is apparently an enjoyable beer instead of reserving yours by pricing out people, like every other good out there.  I don't get it.  Is the market for craft beers just not mature enough for that yet?     

so what you are saying is that the rich get everything . . . and the poor(er) get nothing?  i have money, but even i find that to be a shit concept.  beer is beer to me now.  there is always a good beer to have, and if i miss the great one, there will always be another great one down the road.  we have too many great things in this country.  every day another new one.  replaced by a even better one.  i gave up on wanting this or needing that.  i just let the beer happen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 15, 2013, 07:18:47 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 15, 2013, 02:14:06 pm
I don't read this thread as I'm a wino and not a beer guy.  But my local Whole Foods has a bar that I like to frequent on Sunday Nights after I drink my way across my city and last night we were joined by some friends of ours who are beer people.

Our friend was talking to the bartender about some special beer that's going to be here on Wednesday and how he has to get here early because they're only going to have 20 boxes and they're never going to reach the shelves in the stores - the only way to get them is to be at the bar on Wednesday before a certain time.

So I asked, "why not just charge $100 a bottle then?"  and it was like blasphemy.  Why is beer so different?  If I want a bottle of Silver Oak, I'm prepared to drop some serious cash, but even the thought of the beer market doing this sent everyone into a tizzy.  Instead, you're all going to queue up like idiots for the chance at what is apparently an enjoyable beer instead of reserving yours by pricing out people, like every other good out there.  I don't get it.  Is the market for craft beers just not mature enough for that yet?     

beer is pretty simple. you crush a bunch of grains, throw in some hops, add yeast, and if you want to get extra fancy, you can age it in some fancy wine or whiskey barrels.  the ingredients are abundantly available, and while there is some wonderfully crafted recipes out there, there's still plenty of breweries who could replicate what you do, or maybe even do it better, and for cheaper perhaps as well.

so, a brewery isn't going to price themselves out of the market, and a beer store isn't going mark-up too much and turn away customers or make enemies with their distributor.  too much competition.

it's not like wine, where vines are old and climate is unpredictable. but i don't know anything about wine, so i'm going to stop there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 15, 2013, 07:28:25 pm
Hmmm....

Quote from: walkonby on April 15, 2013, 07:14:03 pm
so what you are saying is that the rich get everything . . . and the poor(er) get nothing?  i have money, but even i find that to be a shit concept. 

Quote from: walkonby on April 15, 2013, 01:59:52 pm
i mean maybe if you had a real job, and tried in school, and did something with your self . . . instead of being a twenty something wanker who plays with records, works at a video game store, or still uses the term "paid by the hour" then maybe you wont bitch about the price of beer, or concert tickets, or cds, or life.

Quote from: walkonby on April 15, 2013, 03:18:22 pm
but one just values more delicately what to bitch about, when youve made it in life and have a great job.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 15, 2013, 07:30:33 pm
i alter my brain and what comes out of it . . . as the hours of the days go by.  the soundtrack of it is killer.


damn new page that now makes this have no sense.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 15, 2013, 07:34:08 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 15, 2013, 07:18:47 pm
so, a brewery isn't going to price themselves out of the market, and a beer store isn't going mark-up too much and turn away customers or make enemies with their distributor.  too much competition.

Well, simple supply and demand indicate that this particular beer is not appropriately priced in the marketplace.  If it's THAT good, I'd be interested to see at what price the queue would be exactly the number of people in line to get a bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2013, 10:45:45 am
brewers have to think across their portfolios.  unlike wineries, few breweries are high-end only. they make special limited-releases that could command big bucks, but their bread and butter is the high-volume daily stuff.  they don't want to piss off customers by charging $50 a bottle for one offering - it breeds resentment and doesn't encourage loyalty.  as touchy-feely as this is going to sound, in my opinion there are aspects of equality and equal access in beer culture that inhibit high pricing.  some bands charge a lot for their concert tickets because they can, other bands don't go for the gouge.  i see wine as being the former, while beer is the latter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 16, 2013, 11:12:37 am
Speaking of the terrorists winning...

We are not allowed to bring alcohol into our work building, even if you have no plans of consuming it at work (no, I don't work ata mosque, rather a gov't building). How do they determine that you have alcohol in your possession? Using the x-ray system that they put in place not long after 9/11. Several times I have had to convince security guards that the bottle of root BEER I had in my lunch was not the same as actual beer.

So perish any thoughts I might ever have of rushing out and grabbing some limited special release beer on my lunch hour.

Thanks, terrorists.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2013, 11:18:10 am
ford - that does indeed suck.

my employer and building have no such limitations.  feel free to bring over your limited special release beer at any time ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2013, 03:56:17 pm
Picked up the 2013 edition of Stone IRS the other day at Whole Foods in Foggy Bottom. Kicking myself for not grabbing the Espresso Stone IRS that was sitting next to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on April 18, 2013, 04:16:16 pm
Yeah, that blows. Every time I come back from a lunchtime stroll to Modern Liquors, my boss always wants to see what I got. Once when I brought back a 20 yr Willett, he sheepishly asked if I would open it so he could have a smell. Of course I did it. Unfortunately, it's a cork bottle and a third of it leaked out on my bike ride home  :'(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2013, 04:20:49 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on April 18, 2013, 04:16:16 pm
Yeah, that blows. Every time I come back from a lunchtime stroll to Modern Liquors, my boss always wants to see what I got. Once when I brought back a 20 yr Willett, he sheepishly asked if I would open it so he could have a smell. Of course I did it. Unfortunately, it's a cork bottle and a third of it leaked out on my bike ride home  :'(

He wanted a smell?? Hhahah... recovering alkie?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on April 18, 2013, 04:23:35 pm
Nah, my suspicion is he didn't think it appropriate to be drinking 135 proof whiskey at 1:30 pm on a work day. Besides, the smell of good bourbon is right up there among my absolute favorite smells, along with killer weed and fine coffee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2013, 05:01:18 pm
Had this last night... never even heard of it or the brewery, quite tasty.

Tell Tale Hearty Ale

https://www.ravenbeer.com/default.asp?iId=GGIFFD
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 18, 2013, 05:03:28 pm
Picked up a bottle of §ucaba yesterday. Friend says I should age it at least a year as he regrets opening his immediately. Now I need to find some Parabola.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2013, 05:51:57 pm
we had a one-year old Sucuba last weekend at last weekend's bottle-sharing party at my place (write-up forthcoming, i swear).  it was indeed fantastic, better than the fresh stuff on tap at the Smoke and Barrel during CBC.  if i got a bottle i'd definitely age it a year.

i've gotten unconfirmed reports that gilley's has sucuba on tap.

how much is a bottle of sucuba retailing for?

and please, please, please let me know if you find parabola.  need me some of that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2013, 08:48:34 pm
It was reported that each and every Total Wine is getting a case of Parabola. It wasn't reported when they are getting it.

I'd almost rather score a Sucaba than a Parabola these days.


Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2013, 05:51:57 pm
we had a one-year old Sucuba last weekend at last weekend's bottle-sharing party at my place (write-up forthcoming, i swear).  it was indeed fantastic, better than the fresh stuff on tap at the Smoke and Barrel during CBC.  if i got a bottle i'd definitely age it a year.

i've gotten unconfirmed reports that gilley's has sucuba on tap.

how much is a bottle of sucuba retailing for?

and please, please, please let me know if you find parabola.  need me some of that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 18, 2013, 10:48:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2013, 05:51:57 pm

how much is a bottle of sucuba retailing for?

and please, please, please let me know if you find parabola.  need me some of that.

Bought the Sucuba for $14.50. Parabola should be coming out shorty - I had a bottle a few weeks ago that was aged for about a year. Well worth the wait.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2013, 12:27:54 am
picked up two bottles of the Stone Espresso IRS from the FB WF.  they had at least 6 more bottles on the shelf, possibly more in the back.  i won't be touching mine for at least a year.  11% abv.  next available in 2015.
 
ford: if i can grab a sucuba, i'll happily trade you it for a parabola.  my weekend is booked so even if Total Wine gets parabola at a convenient time for me and i can reserve a bottle, there is next to no chance of me being able to trek out to VA to grab a bottle.  hopefully someone closer will get some. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 19, 2013, 09:50:16 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on April 18, 2013, 10:48:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2013, 05:51:57 pm

how much is a bottle of sucuba retailing for?

and please, please, please let me know if you find parabola.  need me some of that.

Bought the Sucuba for $14.50. Parabola should be coming out shorty - I had a bottle a few weeks ago that was aged for about a year. Well worth the wait.

A friend surprised me with a bottle of Sucuba last night...Oh.My.God.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 19, 2013, 10:09:07 am
Oh, and this.

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130419.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2013, 10:10:25 am
so grateful, you admit to being intolerable... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 19, 2013, 10:34:43 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 19, 2013, 10:10:25 am
so grateful, you admit to being intolerable... ;D

Did I mention the Sucaba?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2013, 06:00:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsci--s8J48&sns=em

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 21, 2013, 06:15:31 pm
An African-American craft beer loving hophead named Dylan. Sweet.


Sometimes the comments sections are the most entertaining parts of the videos:

Try a Canadian beer yea pussies


Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2013, 06:00:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsci--s8J48&sns=em


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2013, 01:34:59 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2013, 06:00:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsci--s8J48&sns=em



brilliant.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 23, 2013, 11:25:50 am
http://amog.com/sports/156761-enjoy-americas-pastime-10-stadiums-craft-beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 23, 2013, 11:31:20 am
Founders Doom on draft at Churchkey at 4pm today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 23, 2013, 11:33:29 am
Had Goose Island Urban Wheat at the game last night.  Not the best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 23, 2013, 12:00:18 pm
Should have checked these, lol.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/goose-island-312-urban-wheat-ale/30913/

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1146/17141


I've found most of Goose Island's everday stuff to be pretty mediocre. Their Belgians and special releases are very good to excellent though.

Quote from: atomicfront on April 23, 2013, 11:33:29 am
Had Goose Island Urban Wheat at the game last night.  Not the best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 23, 2013, 12:19:38 pm
"On March 28, 2011, Goose Island announced that it will sell its 58% stake in Fulton Street Brewery LLC (the legal name of Goose Island Brewing) to distribution partner Anheuser-Busch. The remaining 42% stake, owned by Craft Brewers Alliance LLC, is also to be purchased by Anheuser-Busch."

coincidence that they suck?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 23, 2013, 12:29:26 pm
I think the regular stuff has always sucked (well ranged from sucky to mediocre). ((My wife is from Chicago, so my Goose Island famliarity goes way back.)

I think the reason that they're on draft at a ballpark in Baltimore and were the only "craft" beer on draft (aside from a Sam Adams brewhouse and it's debateably whether they are craft) when I was recently in the Miami airport are for exactly the reasons you cite.

Quote from: walkonby on April 23, 2013, 12:19:38 pm
"On March 28, 2011, Goose Island announced that it will sell its 58% stake in Fulton Street Brewery LLC (the legal name of Goose Island Brewing) to distribution partner Anheuser-Busch. The remaining 42% stake, owned by Craft Brewers Alliance LLC, is also to be purchased by Anheuser-Busch."

coincidence that they suck?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 23, 2013, 12:31:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 23, 2013, 12:29:26 pm
I think the regular stuff has always sucked (well ranged from sucky to mediocre). ((My wife is from Chicago, so my Goose Island famliarity goes way back.)

I think the reason that they're on draft at a ballpark in Baltimore and were the only "craft" beer on draft (aside from a Sam Adams brewhouse and it's debateably whether they are craft) when I was recently in the Miami airport are for exactly the reasons you cite.

Quote from: walkonby on April 23, 2013, 12:19:38 pm
"On March 28, 2011, Goose Island announced that it will sell its 58% stake in Fulton Street Brewery LLC (the legal name of Goose Island Brewing) to distribution partner Anheuser-Busch. The remaining 42% stake, owned by Craft Brewers Alliance LLC, is also to be purchased by Anheuser-Busch."

coincidence that they suck?

And most likely the reason they have leffe, hoegarden, and stella on draft. So Interbev buying every beer in the world has some positives.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 23, 2013, 12:36:52 pm
Those three beers combine for a .333 batting average in my book. And although Hoegaarden gets a hit, it's definitely a bloop single.

Leffe Brune is very good though.

Quote from: atomicfront on April 23, 2013, 12:31:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 23, 2013, 12:29:26 pm
I think the regular stuff has always sucked (well ranged from sucky to mediocre). ((My wife is from Chicago, so my Goose Island famliarity goes way back.)

I think the reason that they're on draft at a ballpark in Baltimore and were the only "craft" beer on draft (aside from a Sam Adams brewhouse and it's debateably whether they are craft) when I was recently in the Miami airport are for exactly the reasons you cite.

Quote from: walkonby on April 23, 2013, 12:19:38 pm
"On March 28, 2011, Goose Island announced that it will sell its 58% stake in Fulton Street Brewery LLC (the legal name of Goose Island Brewing) to distribution partner Anheuser-Busch. The remaining 42% stake, owned by Craft Brewers Alliance LLC, is also to be purchased by Anheuser-Busch."

coincidence that they suck?

And most likely the reason they have leffe, hoegarden, and stella on draft. So Interbev buying every beer in the world has some positives.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 23, 2013, 12:48:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 23, 2013, 12:36:52 pm
Those three beers combine for a .333 batting average in my book. And although Hoegaarden gets a hit, it's definitely a bloop single.

Leffe Brune is very good though.

Quote from: atomicfront on April 23, 2013, 12:31:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 23, 2013, 12:29:26 pm
I think the regular stuff has always sucked (well ranged from sucky to mediocre). ((My wife is from Chicago, so my Goose Island famliarity goes way back.)

I think the reason that they're on draft at a ballpark in Baltimore and were the only "craft" beer on draft (aside from a Sam Adams brewhouse and it's debateably whether they are craft) when I was recently in the Miami airport are for exactly the reasons you cite.

Quote from: walkonby on April 23, 2013, 12:19:38 pm
"On March 28, 2011, Goose Island announced that it will sell its 58% stake in Fulton Street Brewery LLC (the legal name of Goose Island Brewing) to distribution partner Anheuser-Busch. The remaining 42% stake, owned by Craft Brewers Alliance LLC, is also to be purchased by Anheuser-Busch."

coincidence that they suck?

And most likely the reason they have leffe, hoegarden, and stella on draft. So Interbev buying every beer in the world has some positives.

I like Leffe Blonde on tap.  I bought some bottles after drinking it at the game and it wasn't nearly as good.  Not a Stella fan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 23, 2013, 02:28:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 23, 2013, 12:29:26 pm
I think the regular stuff has always sucked (well ranged from sucky to mediocre).

yup, and this pre-dates the AB sale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 25, 2013, 06:22:45 pm
enjoyed a few great commercial and non-commercial brews lately...

stone enjoy by is a cant miss.  that shit is gooooood.

weyerbacher insanity was one lushy barleywine, and while i thoroughly enjoyed the bottle i had last night, the rest will be aging. 

enjoyed a dollnitzer ritterguts gose and dc brau's otwoa at the dumpy, dupont donut bar GBD. $4 happy hour beers!

weyerbacher heresy is in the fridge, i'll give that a try tonight.

and a sweetcell ipa. that was very delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 25, 2013, 08:39:18 pm
A big beer week for me. Lots of beer from some of the bigger names.
On draft at Fairfax Whole Foods:

Maine Beer Company Mo: Surprisingly mediocre, not on par with Lunch or Zoe
Port City Maniacal: If it's Port City, it's got to be mediocre!
Weyerbacher Heresy: Like the poor man's KBS. Unspectacular, but good nonetheless

24 hours earlier, they had MBC Lunch, Founders Imperial Stout, and Alewerks Cafe Royale all on draft. not bad for a suburban grocery store. But you snooze, you lose.


Four ounce pours at Churchkey (spread out over two visits)

Visit 1:

Founders Doom: not a miss, but something i'll seek out in an expensive bottle
Stone Enjoy By: Based on the first version of this, this one seems to get better as you sip it. iven that I was in a HURRY and it was 4 oz, didn't get a fair shake. Good b ut not outstanding. Read that the Stone Ruination 10th anniversary (the souped up version of the regular stuff) is going to reappear this June...now that's the Stone DIPA I'm really looking forward to)
FW Double Jack: Double Jack for the win. It aint Heady, but for me it ranks at the top with OTWOA and Ruination in terms of year round/intermittently/locally available  DIPA's.

Visit 2:

Stone IRS: oh, so good. This is what a stout should taste like
Stone  :oOak Aged Double Bastard: One of my favorite beer aged with oak chips. SCORE!

Tonight for dinner at home with a grilled gouda sandwich:

Boulevard Rye on Rye: excellent, but not quite as excellent as it was on draft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 25, 2013, 08:41:13 pm
Call it serendipitous, but this happens to be occuring the weekend I'm in Burlington this summer.

WOooOOOOoT.

http://vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 25, 2013, 11:14:52 pm
Went on an epic spree this week. Was able to procure a bottle of Founders Doom, Stone IRS and Espresso IRS, and Enjoy By. Had the Espresso last night, basically had to drink the entire bottle myself since my wife only drank a four ounce pour. This morning was a little rough.

Planning on cracking open the Enjoy By this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 12:58:37 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on April 25, 2013, 11:14:52 pm
Had the Espresso last night, basically had to drink the entire bottle myself since my wife only drank a four ounce pour. This morning was a little rough.

" had to drink the entire bottle myself"?  was it a chore, or did you like the beer?

i'm curious because i have 2 bottles sitting in the cellar.  i'm not going to touch them for at least 6 months.  i've got an IRS from last year... might be time to break that one out soon.

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 25, 2013, 06:22:45 pm
stone enjoy by is a cant miss.  that shit is gooooood.

bottle or draft?  as i've mentioned before, i was unimpressed with the last version on draft.  other folks seem to be all about it, might have to give it another try.

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 25, 2013, 06:22:45 pm
and a sweetcell ipa. that was very delicious.

thank my friends ms. simcoe and ms. amarillo ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 26, 2013, 01:37:49 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 25, 2013, 08:39:18 pm
Port City Maniacal: If it's Port City, it's got to be mediocre!
Weyerbacher Heresy: Like the poor man's KBS. Unspectacular, but good nonetheless

agree on all fronts with the weyerbacher.  very good, but leaves some to be desired.  damn you, kbs!

but on with port city... i have a feeling these dudes are on the cusp of some (at the very least) interesting beers.  it appears they are trying out some better crafty styles.  saw on a blog comment the head brewer was putting together a gratzer recipe.

the DIPA was not impressive? that's a shame. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 26, 2013, 01:38:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 12:58:37 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 25, 2013, 06:22:45 pm
and a sweetcell ipa. that was very delicious.

thank my friends ms. simcoe and ms. amarillo ;D

roommate was able to call out the simcoe immediately, so good job.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 26, 2013, 01:53:12 pm
Weyerbacher's Merry Monk's is pretty good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 03:21:20 pm
a little beer pron for y'all.  i'm way late on this write-up but here goes anyways: a few weeks ago we have the second 930 board bottle share party at my place in the hinterlands (AKA rockville).  thanks to everyone for trekking out.

as usual, brennser shamed us with his selection and generosity: daisy cutter pale ale, russian river temptation, 3F zombie dust, Hair of the Dog Adam, 2012 FW Sucuba... wow.  just wow.  i'm probably forgetting some.

james ford regaled us with Unibroue trois pistoles, Dieu du Ciel solstice d'hiver, and a 2012 SN Bigfoot.

stewizzle dazzled us with a DFH Sixty-One, delighted us with an Epic Elder Brett, and confused us with that weird smoked wheat thing, Piwo Grodziskie.

my brewing buddy Tony joined us with a Blue Mountain Dark Hollow and a Hop Stoopid in tow.  i believe we tried his Vertical Epic 09.09.09, a batch we brewed together, but i'm not sure anymore.  he also had a growler of his Alaskan Amber clone but we didn't get around to trying it.

i had a Troubadour 2011 Cascade/Simcoe belgian but we didn't touch that, either.  we did have several of my homebrews: a kolsch, a brett'ed belgian dark strong (with disappointingly low brett character but still tasty), an imperial amber/brown (aforementioned simcoe/amarillo hop bomb), a dubbel, a bourbon coffee stout.  i think i'm forgetting one.

highlight of the evening was Cirka the wonder dog (as in, "i wonder what the hell ever possessed me to get this breed") stealing ford's daughter's stuffed animal, running out the back door, and then having 6 adults chase her around the garden.  took us a solid 2 or 3 minutes to catch that damn fleabag. 

gold star of the night went to the missus for her fresh baked bread.  you can see the two different kinds in the "family portrait" below (click to enlarge).

(http://s9.postimg.org/stpzru6ov/beer_party_bottles_sm.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5brtn2gbr/full/)

(apologies if i forgot anything, or wrongly attributed a beer to someone)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 26, 2013, 03:26:44 pm
ah, good time. yes, we did have the vertical 09.09.09, and it was delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 26, 2013, 03:36:21 pm
Those who like barrel aged need to get to Pizza Paradiso this weekend.

Celebrate Arbor Day with Wood & Barrel Aged Beers at All Locations

April 26-28

Dupont:
Allagash FV-13, Alvinne Zymatore Cuvee Freddy, Anchor OBA,
BFM Abbaye de St. Bon Chien, The Bruery White Oak,
Captain Lawrence Golden Delicious, Elysian The Dread,
Evolution Fall Migration, Glazen Toren Jan de Lichte Zymatore,
Jolly Pumpkin Oro de Calabaza, Harviestoun Ola Dubh 21 yr,
Local Option Morning Wood,, 3 Stars Sea Change w/ Oak (Cask)
Georgetown:
Allagash Curieux, Baladin Super (Wooden Clad Cask), Boulevard Rye on Rye,
Devils Backbone Wood Aged Kilt Flasher, DDVK Peated Oak Aged Embrasse,
Flying Dog Doggie Style w/ Cedar (Cask), Founders The Doom
JW Lees Harvest (Lagavulin), Loverbeer Duvabeer,
Mother Earth Window Pane Raisin & Fig, New Belgium Oscar,
Oxbow Freestyle #30, Struise Rio Reserva
Three Floyds Barrel Aged Black Sun
Old Town:
Allagash Odyssey, Bavik Petrus Aged Pale Ale, BFM √225,
Blue Mountain Local Species, The Bruery Sour in the Rye,
Dogfish Head Burton Baton, Dogfish Head Palo Santo Marron,
Firestone Walker 2011 Parabola, Harviestoun Ola Dubh 12 yr,
Heavy Seas Big DIPA (Cask),  New Belgium La Folie, Terrapin Oak Aged Big Hoppy Monster,
Schlafly Oak Aged Imperial Stout, Stone Oaked Arrogant Bastard,
 Verhaeghe Duchesse de Bourgogne
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 26, 2013, 03:47:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 26, 2013, 03:26:44 pm
ah, good time. yes, we did have the vertical 09.09.09, and it was delicious.


Nice.  I drank my '10 two weeks ago - last night I said goodbye to my '11.  I miss them already.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 26, 2013, 04:13:32 pm
Just to clarify, what we drank was a homebrewered  (I think)clone of the Stone 09.09.09 that sweetcell and his friend Tony homebrewed. Every bit as delicious as the real thing. Or quite close anyway.


Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 26, 2013, 03:47:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 26, 2013, 03:26:44 pm
ah, good time. yes, we did have the vertical 09.09.09, and it was delicious.


Nice.  I drank my '10 two weeks ago - last night I said goodbye to my '11.  I miss them already.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 04:24:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 26, 2013, 03:36:21 pm
Those who like barrel aged need to get to Pizza Paradiso this weekend.

Celebrate Arbor Day with Wood & Barrel Aged Beers at All Locations

thanks for the heads-up.  gonna try hitting Dupont on the way home.  i've heard good things about Harviestoun Ola Dubh.

Quote from: James Ford on April 26, 2013, 04:13:32 pm
Just to clarify, what we drank was a homebrewered  (I think)clone of the Stone 09.09.09 that sweetcell and his friend Tony homebrewed. Every bit as delicious as the real thing. Or quite close anyway.

we brewed a 11 gallon batch together and each fermented 5.5 gallon.  in his half he got the oak right, while i got more belgian yeast character in mine.  we tried them side by side a few weeks ago and came to the conclusion that they tasted best (and closest to the original) when blended together.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 26, 2013, 04:42:34 pm
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/04/shaun-hill-brewmaster-hill-farmstead
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 26, 2013, 05:50:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 12:58:37 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on April 25, 2013, 11:14:52 pm
Had the Espresso last night, basically had to drink the entire bottle myself since my wife only drank a four ounce pour. This morning was a little rough.

" had to drink the entire bottle myself"?  was it a chore, or did you like the beer?

Oh I definitely liked the beer, but at 10.6% percent, it was a little bit of a challenge to finish by myself. But I would not let it go to waste! And yes, my tolerance for alcohol has taken quite the nosedive after our son was born.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 06:40:19 pm
Some absolutely amazing beers on offer at the Paradiso. I tried:

- Ola dubh: mind blowing. Thick malt, heavy caramel, strong oak, borderline burning alcohol.
- Captain Lawrence's Golden Delicious: a dry-hopped tripel aged in brandy barrels. not distributed in this area, so Pizza Paradiso trucks it down themselves from upstate New York. Really nice Belgian and apple flavors with a touch of tartness. This was my "hydrating" beer... At 10%.
- Elysian the Dread: A  respectable oak aged imperial stout. Very creamy. Least fav of the 4 i had but I'd still have it again.
- BFM Abbaye de St bon chien 2011: defies description. An 11% sour biere de garde, and a very sour one at that. With wood flavor. Wow. Just wow.  I'm not the biggest sour fan but this was damn impressive. End your evening with this one. You won't be tasting anything afterwards. In a good way ;D

Quote from: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 04:24:16 pm
i've heard good things about Harviestoun Ola Dubh

Stevewizzle, you need to try this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 26, 2013, 10:54:05 pm
http://www.reddit.com/r/beer/comments/1cea2d/i_am_shaun_hill_brewerowner_at_hill_farmstead/

Quote from: Yada on April 26, 2013, 04:42:34 pm
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/04/shaun-hill-brewmaster-hill-farmstead
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 08:16:15 am
Jim Koch of Boston Beer Company, sounding a bit like someone most famous for brewing a mediocre lager, and never making a good IPA. (and sounding like atomicfront)


http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/blogs/99bottles/2013/04/mystic_brewing_finds_a_niche_j.html

They were also forthcoming. Koch in particular has a problem with hob-bombs, the big, boozy, 100-plus IBU beers that have been en vogue in recent years. I asked Koch what he thought of the Alchemist's Heady Topper and other massive IPAs. In a part of the interview that didn't make the paper, Koch said, "They're big IPAs. There's 100 of them. Are they new or interesting? Not really. I mean they're good, but there's nothing I'm going to learn from tasting that. There's not a huge set of skills to make an 80-IBU beer."

"There's probably 100 really good 80-IBU IPAs, and there's probably 500 or 1,000 that are out there. It's not that they're bad. It's like drinking Bud or Miller or Coors. You know what you're going to get, you're not going to be surprised. If you're surprised it's generally a bad surprise."

Koch expanded on what he meant.

"I think you go through stages as a beer drinker. And there is an early stage where you want the hoppiest stage that you can get. And then you go past it. It's like scotch drinkers, there's a stage where you want the peatiest, smokiest scotch and think that's quality. But you get through that stage, and then you're looking at the real fundamentals of quality, which to me is not just a lot of flavor but is balance, and complexity and harmony. That's kind of where I am. Let me see what flavors they put in there and how they came together. Because that I'll learn from. There's a real purpose of the brewer's art, which is not to make strange, exotic, extreme. At the end of the day the purpose of the brewer's art is to make beers that give people pleasure."

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 29, 2013, 09:21:24 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 06:40:19 pm
- Ola dubh: mind blowing. Thick malt, heavy caramel, strong oak, borderline burning alcohol.
Quote from: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 04:24:16 pm
i've heard good things about Harviestoun Ola Dubh

Stevewizzle, you need to try this one.

oh, i kind of hate you.  i looked at the list on friday, debating whether i should head down, and this one was really sticking out to me.  then my roommate proceeded to talk me out of it, with quotes like "they are all $10+" and "tastiers are way too expensive there".

i'm broke these days, so it's probably for the best right now.  i'll keep it on the radar....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 09:31:05 am


"they are all $10+"


My biggest reason for not going. Hopefully they have some good leftovers of these beers during their half price happy hours this week (Mon-Thurs at Georgetown and Tues-Wed at Dupont), as I have plans to be there on Tuesday.


Quote from: stevewizzle on April 29, 2013, 09:21:24 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 06:40:19 pm
- Ola dubh: mind blowing. Thick malt, heavy caramel, strong oak, borderline burning alcohol.
Quote from: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 04:24:16 pm
i've heard good things about Harviestoun Ola Dubh

Stevewizzle, you need to try this one.

oh, i kind of hate you.  i looked at the list on friday, debating whether i should head down, and this one was really sticking out to me.  then my roommate proceeded to talk me out of it, with quotes like "they are all $10+" and "tastiers are way too expensive there".

i'm broke these days, so it's probably for the best right now.  i'll keep it on the radar....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 29, 2013, 09:31:36 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 08:16:15 am
Jim Koch of Boston Beer Company, sounding a bit like someone most famous for brewing a mediocre lager, and never making a good IPA. (and sounding like atomicfront)

i don't think your dig on Koch is fair.  he's done wonderful things for the craft beer scene, and his assessment on IPAs is pretty spot-on if you ask me.  what's the best double IPA? if you ask me, it's usually whatever is the freshest ingredients.  that, in fact, takes very little talent by any brewer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 29, 2013, 09:48:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 08:16:15 am
Jim Koch of Boston Beer Company, sounding a bit like someone most famous for brewing a mediocre lager, and never making a good IPA. (and sounding like atomicfront)


http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/blogs/99bottles/2013/04/mystic_brewing_finds_a_niche_j.html

They were also forthcoming. Koch in particular has a problem with hob-bombs, the big, boozy, 100-plus IBU beers that have been en vogue in recent years. I asked Koch what he thought of the Alchemist's Heady Topper and other massive IPAs. In a part of the interview that didn't make the paper, Koch said, "They're big IPAs. There's 100 of them. Are they new or interesting? Not really. I mean they're good, but there's nothing I'm going to learn from tasting that. There's not a huge set of skills to make an 80-IBU beer."

"There's probably 100 really good 80-IBU IPAs, and there's probably 500 or 1,000 that are out there. It's not that they're bad. It's like drinking Bud or Miller or Coors. You know what you're going to get, you're not going to be surprised. If you're surprised it's generally a bad surprise."

Koch expanded on what he meant.

"I think you go through stages as a beer drinker. And there is an early stage where you want the hoppiest stage that you can get. And then you go past it. It's like scotch drinkers, there's a stage where you want the peatiest, smokiest scotch and think that's quality. But you get through that stage, and then you're looking at the real fundamentals of quality, which to me is not just a lot of flavor but is balance, and complexity and harmony. That's kind of where I am. Let me see what flavors they put in there and how they came together. Because that I'll learn from. There's a real purpose of the brewer's art, which is not to make strange, exotic, extreme. At the end of the day the purpose of the brewer's art is to make beers that give people pleasure."



He is stating the obvious.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 10:21:03 am
Yes, he's a pioneer, a trailblazer, blah blah blah.

Still it just sounds like sour grapes coming from a guy whose main products have obviously been surpassed by the new guys.

Now if that statement was made by GREG Koch, it would be more interesting.

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 29, 2013, 09:31:36 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 08:16:15 am
Jim Koch of Boston Beer Company, sounding a bit like someone most famous for brewing a mediocre lager, and never making a good IPA. (and sounding like atomicfront)

i don't think your dig on Koch is fair.  he's done wonderful things for the craft beer scene, and his assessment on IPAs is pretty spot-on if you ask me.  what's the best double IPA? if you ask me, it's usually whatever is the freshest ingredients.  that, in fact, takes very little talent by any brewer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on April 29, 2013, 10:25:52 am
I had some Blue Point toasted lager yesterday.  Pretty tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 12:04:36 pm
freshly canned OTWOA at DCBrau this weekend.

With fresh Double Trouble available (for cheaper) and SN Hoptimum on the way, may have to take a pass again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 29, 2013, 12:36:01 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 29, 2013, 09:21:24 am
"they are all $10+" and "tastiers are way too expensive there".

they weren't all $10.  some were, some were less.

Quote from: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 09:31:05 am
Hopefully they have some good leftovers of these beers during their half price happy hours this week (Mon-Thurs at Georgetown and Tues-Wed at Dupont), as I have plans to be there on Tuesday.


they still have several listed in dupont!

Quote from: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 08:16:15 am
"There's probably 100 really good 80-IBU IPAs, and there's probably 500 or 1,000 that are out there. It's not that they're bad. It's like drinking Bud or Miller or Coors. You know what you're going to get, you're not going to be surprised. If you're surprised it's generally a bad surprise."

the first part of that statement can be applied to any beer.  only a fraction of any style - stout, pilsner, pale ale, etc - are going to be really good.  so nothing new there. 

i have a problem taking his opinion seriously if he thinks all 80+ IBU beers are the same and you should expect the same thing from each one, every time.

it is indeed relatively easy to brew a big hop bomb (you still need to be able to brew a good pale ale - then you crank up the hops).  it's very hard to brew an excellent hop bomb.  there is a reason why pliny, heady, zombie dust, etc have a following: they are unique.  they sell the stuff as fast as they can make it, you'd think everyone who makes "just another hop bomb" would be in the same position... but they're not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 29, 2013, 10:28:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=amgfgU5-lhs#!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 30, 2013, 12:01:43 pm
Cracked open the Enjoy By 5.17.13. Fantastic beer, hoppy yet not overwhelming. Even my wife, who is not the biggest hops fan, loved it.

Planning on hitting DC Brau up this Saturday for OTWOA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 30, 2013, 02:52:20 pm
In honor of today's presale I picked up one of these:

(http://beerandamovie.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/wtf-beer.jpg)

Anybody try it yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 30, 2013, 03:13:23 pm
Love it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 30, 2013, 03:22:18 pm
I'll preface my answer by saying I haven't had a beer by Lagunitas that I didn't like, but my answer is that it's one of their beers I've like least.

Quote from: Shemp on April 30, 2013, 02:52:20 pm
In honor of today's presale I picked up one of these:

(http://beerandamovie.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/wtf-beer.jpg)

Anybody try it yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 30, 2013, 05:47:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 30, 2013, 03:22:18 pm
I'll preface my answer by saying I haven't had a beer by Lagunitas that I didn't like, but my answer is that it's one of their beers I've like least.

have you tried their Maximus DIPA, http://lagunitas.com/beers/maximus/?  unimpressive, IMO.  not horrible, but not worth the $4.99 i paid for the bomber.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 30, 2013, 07:25:45 pm
did somebody say fresh double trouble . . . just got some.  oh hell yeah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 30, 2013, 10:01:11 pm
Not worth $5 for a bomber of DIPA? that's so cheap!
That said, another least favorite Lagunitas beer.

Favorite Lagunitas beers:

Sucks
Brown Shugga
Hairy Eyeball
Little Sumpin Sumpin
Little Sumpin Wild

A second Lagunitas brewery is opening this summer. This one in Chicago. Will add that to places to visit when we see the in-laws in IN. Along with Three Floyds, Half Acre, and Revolution.


Quote from: sweetcell on April 30, 2013, 05:47:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 30, 2013, 03:22:18 pm
I'll preface my answer by saying I haven't had a beer by Lagunitas that I didn't like, but my answer is that it's one of their beers I've like least.

have you tried their Maximus DIPA, http://lagunitas.com/beers/maximus/?  unimpressive, IMO.  not horrible, but not worth the $4.99 i paid for the bomber.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 30, 2013, 10:09:45 pm
Went tonight. Pleasant surprise running into stevewizzle. though he was the one doing the running.



tried a taste of this:

Mad Fox Oaked Wee Heavy-add this to the list of Mad Fox misses for me


starte with this:

Evolution Special 608

Very respectable belgian pale ale brewed in good old Maryland


then had this:

Ola dubh-ditto to what you said. Might go to Old Town location tomorrow with the family and have another.


split one of these with my friend:

BFM Abbaye de St bon chien 2011-I'm not a sour guy, but was looking for something distinctly different than the Ola Dubh-agree that it was a good one to end on

Quote from: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 06:40:19 pm
Some absolutely amazing beers on offer at the Paradiso. I tried:

- Ola dubh: mind blowing. Thick malt, heavy caramel, strong oak, borderline burning alcohol.
- Captain Lawrence's Golden Delicious: a dry-hopped tripel aged in brandy barrels. not distributed in this area, so Pizza Paradiso trucks it down themselves from upstate New York. Really nice Belgian and apple flavors with a touch of tartness. This was my "hydrating" beer... At 10%.
- Elysian the Dread: A  respectable oak aged imperial stout. Very creamy. Least fav of the 4 i had but I'd still have it again.
- BFM Abbaye de St bon chien 2011: defies description. An 11% sour biere de garde, and a very sour one at that. With wood flavor. Wow. Just wow.  I'm not the biggest sour fan but this was damn impressive. End your evening with this one. You won't be tasting anything afterwards. In a good way ;D

Quote from: sweetcell on April 26, 2013, 04:24:16 pm
i've heard good things about Harviestoun Ola Dubh

Stevewizzle, you need to try this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 01, 2013, 10:36:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 30, 2013, 10:01:11 pm
Not worth $5 for a bomber of DIPA? that's so cheap!

i know, and it still wasn't worth it.  i looked at the bottle and told myself "shoulda spent $3 more on something better".  agree with your other lagunitas selections, all good beers.  just the maximus was a miss for me.

were the beers you tried half-price?  i might hit up dupont tonight or tomorrow, depending on work.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 01, 2013, 10:56:15 am
in the same category from lagunitas is also Hop Stoopid, which I seem to remember as better than Maximus.

Yees, all draft were half price!


Quote from: sweetcell on May 01, 2013, 10:36:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 30, 2013, 10:01:11 pm
Not worth $5 for a bomber of DIPA? that's so cheap!

i know, and it still wasn't worth it.  i looked at the bottle and told myself "shoulda spent $3 more on something better".  agree with your other lagunitas selections, all good beers.  just the maximus was a miss for me.

were the beers you tried half-price?  i might hit up dupont tonight or tomorrow, depending on work.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 01, 2013, 11:54:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 30, 2013, 10:09:45 pm
Pleasant surprise running into stevewizzle. though he was the one doing the running.

funny, i also ran into stevewizzle!  t'was at the DC Homebrewers' Club monthly meeting, so after your meetup at the PP, and we talked about the Ola Dubh he had just tried (although neither one of us were able to get the name right...).  another successful meeting.  Mike the Mad Fementationist (http://www.themadfermentationist.com/) gave a talk on brewing sours.  he passed around 4 brett'ed beers but i didn't get to try them as i was too far back, bottles were empty before they got to my area.  i got to taste his soured dubbel aged on plums afterwards - wow.  tried another more traditional, straight-up soured pale ale and a bunch of other things including a citra-hopped ESB which was interesting.  even walked out with 6 pounds of crystal wheat malt thanks to a club sponsor (Briess Malting). 

i left a tad early to make the HTDA show at the FSS (comments on the show in the "this week's roll call" thread).  they had harpoon IPA on tap, which at best is mediocre but the keg mine came from was clearly oxidized and tasted stale.  washed that down with a ruthless rye in a bottle and finished off with a flying dog belgian white (seasonal).  they had other FD options as well, it varied from bar to bar.  so not an amazing beer selection but there were a few options to choose from.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 01, 2013, 09:10:23 pm
In Germany, a US beer invasion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in-germany-a-us-beer-invasion/2013/04/30/0d03f6e6-adf3-11e2-8bf6-e70cb6ae066e_story.html?hpid=z5

Enough already with boring German beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 02, 2013, 08:21:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 01, 2013, 11:54:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on April 30, 2013, 10:09:45 pm
Pleasant surprise running into stevewizzle. though he was the one doing the running.

funny, i also ran into stevewizzle! 

my alcoholism is really showing these days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 02, 2013, 10:40:42 am
US Craft Brew invades Germany

?I have worked in pubs all my life, but never has anybody asked for an American beer,? said Uwe Helmenstein, 52, a barkeeper in the middle-class neighborhood of Friedenau.

?I don?t think it would work here,? he said, because perceptions run strong that American beers are flavorless and thin.

But with small-scale breweries springing up around Germany?s cities, many of them creating beers that emulate American craft-beer styles, the seeds of a broader shift may have been planted, some advocates say.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in-germany-a-us-beer-invasion/2013/04/30/0d03f6e6-adf3-11e2-8bf6-e70cb6ae066e_story.html?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 02, 2013, 11:00:04 am
‏@GBDchixndonuts 5m

We're tapping @mainebeerco Lunch IPA TONIGHT! Don't miss out on one of the best IPAs in the USA...will go fast!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 02, 2013, 11:01:42 am
Already beat you to the story. Check two posts prior.

The amount of beer ignorance shown in 95% of the comments is unbelievable. Probably ten time as much ignorance out their regarding beer as there is pretentiousness regarding it.*

*No mathematical computation went into that statement, so take it with a grain of hops and a pint of ale.

Quote from: grateful on May 02, 2013, 10:40:42 am
US Craft Brew invades Germany

?I have worked in pubs all my life, but never has anybody asked for an American beer,? said Uwe Helmenstein, 52, a barkeeper in the middle-class neighborhood of Friedenau.

?I don?t think it would work here,? he said, because perceptions run strong that American beers are flavorless and thin.

But with small-scale breweries springing up around Germany?s cities, many of them creating beers that emulate American craft-beer styles, the seeds of a broader shift may have been planted, some advocates say.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in-germany-a-us-beer-invasion/2013/04/30/0d03f6e6-adf3-11e2-8bf6-e70cb6ae066e_story.html?


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 02, 2013, 11:03:20 am
Who is "we"? Some place called chixndonuts?

They tapped that one at Whole Foods in Fairfax a couple of weeks ago but we missed it. Had it in the bottle...very good, if a bit overpriced.

Quote from: stevewizzle on May 02, 2013, 11:00:04 am
‏@GBDchixndonuts 5m

We're tapping @mainebeerco Lunch IPA TONIGHT! Don't miss out on one of the best IPAs in the USA...will go fast!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 02, 2013, 11:12:53 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 02, 2013, 11:01:42 am
Already beat you to the story. Check two posts prior.

Ahhhh shiznit.  Well, great minds or sumpin'
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 02, 2013, 11:23:15 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 02, 2013, 11:03:20 am
Who is "we"? Some place called chixndonuts?

They tapped that one at Whole Foods in Fairfax a couple of weeks ago but we missed it. Had it in the bottle...very good, if a bit overpriced.

Quote from: stevewizzle on May 02, 2013, 11:00:04 am
‏@GBDchixndonuts 5m

We're tapping @mainebeerco Lunch IPA TONIGHT! Don't miss out on one of the best IPAs in the USA...will go fast!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%40GBDchixndonuts
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 02, 2013, 11:53:25 am
i was going to ask the same question as Ford... glad he took the LMGTFY bullet :)

i was thinking of having a quick beer on the way home tonight, and the original plan was to hit up PP since they appear to still have BFM Abbaye de St. Bon Chien and Harviestoun Ola Dubh... and now i have to pile on Lunch?!? 

yes, that's right, i "have" to.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 02, 2013, 12:11:36 pm
i snagged a BFM last night.  good stuff, but maybe too much vinegar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 02, 2013, 01:02:33 pm
really?  i had it last friday and while sour i didn't get too much vinegar (and acetic acid, aka vinegar, is what i hate in sour beers).  admittedly the BFM came after 3 glasses of strong stuff, including the Ola Dubh, so who knows how shot my palette was at that point.

interesting that you detected too much vinegar.  you've enjoyed beers in the past that were borderline too acetic for me...

further reason to investigate tonight :)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 02, 2013, 02:22:03 pm
My wife and I split two Enjoy By's, one Ola Dubh, and one Palo Santo at PP Old Town last night.

After two nights of Pizza Paradiso, i'm ready to go back to drinking just six ounces with my dinner at home....at least until my birthday next week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on May 02, 2013, 03:21:13 pm
Cracked open a Southern Tier Creme Brulee last night that I aged for a little over a year. The vanilla was incredibly overpowering, especially aroma-wise while I was drinking it out of a snifter. Was not a big fan suffice to say.

Just picked up a bottle of Firestone Double Jack since we've been splitting stouts the last few nights. I would have bought more Enjoy By but Village Pump was sold out.  >:(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 02, 2013, 06:40:20 pm
that is so funny . . . the owner of a neat country beer supplier store like thing in my area, and i got into it about the fact there are too many stupid fucking flavours (yes i put a fucking "u" in it) in beers now, where then he told the story of how southern tier creme brulee was a brilliant example of why it works.  i told him that he hates ipas, because that is the new thing to do, and wont admit it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on May 03, 2013, 07:54:56 am
Gilly's in Rockville just tapped a keg of Stone's "Enjoy By 5/17/13". 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2013, 03:09:44 pm
big beer night last night.  started off at GBD where i had Lunch.  solid IPA, nice firm bitterness but a tad weak on the aroma.  at $9 a glass i tried offsetting that extravagance with the happy hour special, Bise Noire Menthe - a mint stout.  it was not impressive.  mouthfeel was watery, mint tasted artificial, yuck.  i then sauntered over to Pizza Paradiso to have another crack at the Ola Duhb and the BFM.  gawd those are great beers.  stevewizzle, the BFM is not too acetic.

later that evening my brewing buddy picked me up and we went to:

Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on May 03, 2013, 07:54:56 am
Gilly's in Rockville just tapped a keg of Stone's "Enjoy By 5/17/13". 

i like this the Enjoy By more than the last one i had (i believe it was 3/17, something like that).  had 2 of those, then went back to my place to have a Rampant IPA (too sweet, avoid) since we talked about it at gilly's, and we shared one of my 09.09.09 clones.

not sure which i prefer between the lunch and the enjoy by... probably the enjoy by, but both are excellent.

12 oz bottles of Ola Duhb were $14 at gilly's!

Quote from: stevewizzle on May 02, 2013, 08:21:05 am
my alcoholism is really showing these days.

phsaw.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 03, 2013, 03:35:27 pm
i missed the lunch, traffic was terrible and didn't make it.  but $9 is a lot, and ended up buying a 4-pack of hoptimum for $10, and a bottle of bcbs to age instead.

re: bfm. maybe i had a funny glass or pour.  something was there making it less enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2013, 03:49:06 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 03, 2013, 03:35:27 pm
i missed the lunch, traffic was terrible and didn't make it.  but $9 is a lot, and ended up buying a 4-pack of hoptimum for $10, and a bottle of bcbs to age instead.

re: bfm. maybe i had a funny glass or pour.  something was there making it less enjoyable.

I find Hoptimum basically undrinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 03, 2013, 04:47:14 pm
Too bitter? Too harsh?

I find 120 Mins too harsh, but I like Hoptimum for what it is.


Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2013, 03:49:06 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 03, 2013, 03:35:27 pm
i missed the lunch, traffic was terrible and didn't make it.  but $9 is a lot, and ended up buying a 4-pack of hoptimum for $10, and a bottle of bcbs to age instead.

re: bfm. maybe i had a funny glass or pour.  something was there making it less enjoyable.

I find Hoptimum basically undrinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 03, 2013, 04:49:08 pm
I've had the Enjoy By 5.17.13 from two different kegs (Churchkey and PP Old Town) and the bottle this time around, and actually thought it tasted much better from the bottle. The hops really sing coming from the bottle, tasted more muted on draft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2013, 04:56:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 03, 2013, 04:47:14 pm
Too bitter? Too harsh?

I find 120 Mins too harsh, but I like Hoptimum for what it is.


Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2013, 03:49:06 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 03, 2013, 03:35:27 pm
i missed the lunch, traffic was terrible and didn't make it.  but $9 is a lot, and ended up buying a 4-pack of hoptimum for $10, and a bottle of bcbs to age instead.

re: bfm. maybe i had a funny glass or pour.  something was there making it less enjoyable.

I find Hoptimum basically undrinkable.

I haven't had it since last year's release but I remember it being completely bitter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 04, 2013, 06:47:16 am
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2013, 04:56:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 03, 2013, 04:47:14 pm
Too bitter? Too harsh?

I find 120 Mins too harsh, but I like Hoptimum for what it is.


Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2013, 03:49:06 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 03, 2013, 03:35:27 pm
i missed the lunch, traffic was terrible and didn't make it.  but $9 is a lot, and ended up buying a 4-pack of hoptimum for $10, and a bottle of bcbs to age instead.

re: bfm. maybe i had a funny glass or pour.  something was there making it less enjoyable.

I find Hoptimum basically undrinkable.

I haven't had it since last year's release but I remember it being completely bitter.

me too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:11:57 am
I visited the EVO Brewery in Salsbury, MD had a tour and tasted a bunch of brews and here are my grades:

Evo Brewery

Lot 3 IPA = C
Lucky 7 Porter B+
Exile ESP = B
Rise Up Stout B+
Summer Session = A
Prelude Gold = B
Special 608 Belgian Amber = A+
Incubator # 1 = B+

Then I went to Dogfish Head brew put and had the following brews:
Dogfish Head
 Ancient Ale: Nordicthern Europe = F
Brewed for Naught = D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:13:21 am
Oh one more thing.  On my tour of the brewery at EVO I asked them why they didn't do Lagers  (as I saw they had cooling equipment) and he said they take too long to ferment and condition that it ties up their equipment.   He said it takes more than twice as long to make a lager. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 11:24:53 am
Do they think their target audience would buy much lager if they were to make it?

Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:13:21 am
Oh one more thing.  On my tour of the brewery at EVO I asked them why they didn't do Lagers  (as I saw they had cooling equipment) and he said they take too long to ferment and condition that it ties up their equipment.   He said it takes more than twice as long to make a lager. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 11:47:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 11:24:53 am
Do they think their target audience would buy much lager if they were to make it?

Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:13:21 am
Oh one more thing.  On my tour of the brewery at EVO I asked them why they didn't do Lagers  (as I saw they had cooling equipment) and he said they take too long to ferment and condition that it ties up their equipment.   He said it takes more than twice as long to make a lager. 

Why not?  Flying Dog makes 2 lagers.  I asked the guy why and he told me.   Makes sense.  If you can sell all the beer you make why would you intentionally  make less of it? 

I will tour the Flying Dog plant in July I will ask them about how their lagers are selling.

Oh I also had a Dos Equis lager yesterday.  It was actually pretty good. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2013, 11:47:50 am
Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:13:21 am
Oh one more thing.  On my tour of the brewery at EVO I asked them why they didn't do Lagers  (as I saw they had cooling equipment) and he said they take too long to ferment and condition that it ties up their equipment.   He said it takes more than twice as long to make a lager. 

yeah, i should have been more precise about what i wrote previously about lagers.  you need to cool ales too when you make them, you just need to cool them less (ales ferment in 60's and 70's, lagers are down in the 40's and 50's).  and as the EVO tour pointed out, you need to cool them longer after fermentation.  lager are held at near freezing for several weeks while they condition, solids fall out of suspension, higher alcohols break down, the yeast flocculates, blah blah.  so in the time you can make one batch of lager, you could make 2 or 3 batches of ale.  you could serve a lager without lagering it... but it wouldn't taste like a lager.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 12:11:19 pm
Flying Dog is the 40th largest brewer in America. http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/media/press-releases/show?title=brewers-association-releases-top-50-breweries-of-2012

Evolution is a small batch brewer who creates a fraction of the beer that Flying Dog makes.

Not really comparable.


Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 11:47:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 11:24:53 am
Do they think their target audience would buy much lager if they were to make it?

Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:13:21 am
Oh one more thing.  On my tour of the brewery at EVO I asked them why they didn't do Lagers  (as I saw they had cooling equipment) and he said they take too long to ferment and condition that it ties up their equipment.   He said it takes more than twice as long to make a lager. 

Why not?  Flying Dog makes 2 lagers.  I asked the guy why and he told me.   Makes sense.  If you can sell all the beer you make why would you intentionally  make less of it? 

I will tour the Flying Dog plant in July I will ask them about how their lagers are selling.

Oh I also had a Dos Equis lager yesterday.  It was actually pretty good. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 06, 2013, 12:23:47 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:11:57 am
Then I went to Dogfish Head brew put and had the following brews:
Dogfish Head
Ancient Ale: Nordicthern Europe = F
Brewed for Naught = D

this nordicthern beer is the classic making of a gruit ale (http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/brewpub-exclusives/ancient-ale-nordicthern-europe.htm).  i'm excited to try this. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 12:27:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 12:11:19 pm
Flying Dog is the 40th largest brewer in America. http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/media/press-releases/show?title=brewers-association-releases-top-50-breweries-of-2012

Evolution is a small batch brewer who creates a fraction of the beer that Flying Dog makes.

Not really comparable.


Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 11:47:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 11:24:53 am
Do they think their target audience would buy much lager if they were to make it?

Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:13:21 am
Oh one more thing.  On my tour of the brewery at EVO I asked them why they didn't do Lagers  (as I saw they had cooling equipment) and he said they take too long to ferment and condition that it ties up their equipment.   He said it takes more than twice as long to make a lager. 

Why not?  Flying Dog makes 2 lagers.  I asked the guy why and he told me.   Makes sense.  If you can sell all the beer you make why would you intentionally  make less of it? 

I will tour the Flying Dog plant in July I will ask them about how their lagers are selling.

Oh I also had a Dos Equis lager yesterday.  It was actually pretty good. 

What I find interesting is that there are only 3 breweries that aren't craft breweries.  Pabst doesn't brew beer so I don't know why they are on that list.  A couple of years ago when I toured Dogfish Head they said Sam Adams got the craft definition raised so they could still be a craft brewery.  6 million barrels is a ton of beer.  Comical that they are considered a craft brewery.  

I assume there is a huge difference between being 40th largest brewery and 10th.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 12:28:16 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 06, 2013, 12:23:47 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:11:57 am
Then I went to Dogfish Head brew put and had the following brews:
Dogfish Head
Ancient Ale: Nordicthern Europe = F
Brewed for Naught = D

this nordicthern beer is the classic making of a gruit ale (http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/brewpub-exclusives/ancient-ale-nordicthern-europe.htm).  i'm excited to try this. 

I couldn't finish it.  I like most dogfish head stuff but it was absolutely horrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 12:38:51 pm
2010 is a long time ago, but back then #40 put you somewhere in the 30K-75K barrel range and #10 put you in the 100K-150K range.

http://beerpulse.com/2011/04/the-top-50-breweries-of-2010/


Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 12:27:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 12:11:19 pm
Flying Dog is the 40th largest brewer in America. http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/media/press-releases/show?title=brewers-association-releases-top-50-breweries-of-2012

Evolution is a small batch brewer who creates a fraction of the beer that Flying Dog makes.

Not really comparable.


Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 11:47:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 11:24:53 am
Do they think their target audience would buy much lager if they were to make it?

Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:13:21 am
Oh one more thing.  On my tour of the brewery at EVO I asked them why they didn't do Lagers  (as I saw they had cooling equipment) and he said they take too long to ferment and condition that it ties up their equipment.   He said it takes more than twice as long to make a lager. 

Why not?  Flying Dog makes 2 lagers.  I asked the guy why and he told me.   Makes sense.  If you can sell all the beer you make why would you intentionally  make less of it? 

I will tour the Flying Dog plant in July I will ask them about how their lagers are selling.

Oh I also had a Dos Equis lager yesterday.  It was actually pretty good. 

What I find interesting is that there are only 3 breweries that aren't craft breweries.  Pabst doesn't brew beer so I don't know why they are on that list.  A couple of years ago when I toured Dogfish Head they said Sam Adams got the craft definition raised so they could still be a craft brewery.  6 million barrels is a ton of beer.  Comical that they are considered a craft brewery.  

I assume there is a huge difference between being 40th largest brewery and 10th.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 06, 2013, 12:40:04 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 12:27:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 12:11:19 pm
Flying Dog is the 40th largest brewer in America. http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/media/press-releases/show?title=brewers-association-releases-top-50-breweries-of-2012

Evolution is a small batch brewer who creates a fraction of the beer that Flying Dog makes.

Not really comparable.


Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 11:47:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 11:24:53 am
Do they think their target audience would buy much lager if they were to make it?

Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:13:21 am
Oh one more thing.  On my tour of the brewery at EVO I asked them why they didn't do Lagers  (as I saw they had cooling equipment) and he said they take too long to ferment and condition that it ties up their equipment.   He said it takes more than twice as long to make a lager. 

Why not?  Flying Dog makes 2 lagers.  I asked the guy why and he told me.   Makes sense.  If you can sell all the beer you make why would you intentionally  make less of it? 

I will tour the Flying Dog plant in July I will ask them about how their lagers are selling.

Oh I also had a Dos Equis lager yesterday.  It was actually pretty good. 

What I find interesting is that there are only 3 breweries that aren't craft breweries.  Pabst doesn't brew beer so I don't know why they are on that list.  A couple of years ago when I toured Dogfish Head they said Sam Adams got the craft definition raised so they could still be a craft brewery.  6 million barrels is a ton of beer.  Comical that they are considered a craft brewery.  

I assume there is a huge difference between being 40th largest brewery and 10th.  

also comical that on the harpoon brewery "tour", they use to call out sam adams as "not really being craft, and not really being from boston". says the #9 largest craft brewer...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 12:43:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 12:38:51 pm
2010 is a long time ago, but back then #40 put you somewhere in the 30K-75K barrel range and #10 put you in the 100K-150K range.

http://beerpulse.com/2011/04/the-top-50-breweries-of-2010/


Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 12:27:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 12:11:19 pm
Flying Dog is the 40th largest brewer in America. http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/media/press-releases/show?title=brewers-association-releases-top-50-breweries-of-2012

Evolution is a small batch brewer who creates a fraction of the beer that Flying Dog makes.

Not really comparable.


Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 11:47:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 11:24:53 am
Do they think their target audience would buy much lager if they were to make it?

Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:13:21 am
Oh one more thing.  On my tour of the brewery at EVO I asked them why they didn't do Lagers  (as I saw they had cooling equipment) and he said they take too long to ferment and condition that it ties up their equipment.   He said it takes more than twice as long to make a lager. 

Why not?  Flying Dog makes 2 lagers.  I asked the guy why and he told me.   Makes sense.  If you can sell all the beer you make why would you intentionally  make less of it? 

I will tour the Flying Dog plant in July I will ask them about how their lagers are selling.

Oh I also had a Dos Equis lager yesterday.  It was actually pretty good. 

What I find interesting is that there are only 3 breweries that aren't craft breweries.  Pabst doesn't brew beer so I don't know why they are on that list.  A couple of years ago when I toured Dogfish Head they said Sam Adams got the craft definition raised so they could still be a craft brewery.  6 million barrels is a ton of beer.  Comical that they are considered a craft brewery.  

I assume there is a huge difference between being 40th largest brewery and 10th.  

So I think EVO said they are doing 12000 barrels a year.  Anyway they are new and I am sure they will grow.  There beers are all pretty decent.  Where as I think Flying Dog is more hit or miss. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 06, 2013, 12:46:35 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 12:28:16 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 06, 2013, 12:23:47 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:11:57 am
Then I went to Dogfish Head brew put and had the following brews:
Dogfish Head
Ancient Ale: Nordicthern Europe = F
Brewed for Naught = D

this nordicthern beer is the classic making of a gruit ale (http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/brewpub-exclusives/ancient-ale-nordicthern-europe.htm).  i'm excited to try this. 

I couldn't finish it.  I like most dogfish head stuff but it was absolutely horrible.

so it goes with gruit ales.  right now, it's more of a novelty than it is a worthwhile beer, i imagine.  but the idea is it uses only herbs to achieve its flavor profile, and some of the herbs are straight out bizarre (bog myrtle, yarrow).  they are extremely inebriating and slightly hallucinogenic in moderate consumption.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 06, 2013, 12:48:18 pm

There beers are all pretty decent.  Where as I think Flying Dog is more hit or miss.
I agree.


Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 12:43:28 pm

So I think EVO said they are doing 12000 barrels a year.  Anyway they are new and I am sure they will grow.  There beers are all pretty decent.  Where as I think Flying Dog is more hit or miss. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2013, 01:51:29 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 06, 2013, 12:46:35 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 12:28:16 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 06, 2013, 12:23:47 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 06, 2013, 10:11:57 am
Then I went to Dogfish Head brew put and had the following brews:
Dogfish Head
Ancient Ale: Nordicthern Europe = F
Brewed for Naught = D

this nordicthern beer is the classic making of a gruit ale (http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/brewpub-exclusives/ancient-ale-nordicthern-europe.htm).  i'm excited to try this. 

I couldn't finish it.  I like most dogfish head stuff but it was absolutely horrible.

so it goes with gruit ales.  right now, it's more of a novelty than it is a worthwhile beer, i imagine.  but the idea is it uses only herbs to achieve its flavor profile, and some of the herbs are straight out bizarre (bog myrtle, yarrow).  they are extremely inebriating and slightly hallucinogenic in moderate consumption.

for me, gruit falls into the same bucket as the Reinheitsgebot: it's a product of a certain time in history, but we've moved on from that. 

nothing wrong with wanting to dabble in the roots of brewing and rediscovering old recipes, but i suspect there is a simple reason why we now hops instead of bog myrtle: hops taste better. 

maybe gruits aren't particularly good at the moment because it's an emerging style, people haven't found the right combos, etc.  i'm willing to bet that someone will come up with something tasty, i just haven't come across it yet.

another factor is that our palettes aren't used to the taste of gruit.  it challenges our conception of what a beer should taste like (as in, "i don't want my beer to taste like pine bark and burnt peanuts").
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 06, 2013, 10:53:07 pm
speak for yourself i love pine bark.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on May 07, 2013, 03:33:55 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 02, 2013, 03:21:13 pm
Cracked open a Southern Tier Creme Brulee last night that I aged for a little over a year. The vanilla was incredibly overpowering, especially aroma-wise while I was drinking it out of a snifter. Was not a big fan suffice to say.

This is exactly what I said about this stuff awhile ago and got torn a new one over it. It's the flavorings that are too intense and over-done to the point of ruining that beer, and I usually love vanilla and caramel flavorings. Not so with this stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 07, 2013, 08:09:34 am
If y'all are looking for the best vanilla flavored porter that goes great with bbq tempeh tacos AND German chocolate birthday cake, this is what you need to get. Heavenly.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyzde4VEu91r73ywyo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 07, 2013, 08:56:45 am
Quote from: Jaguar on May 07, 2013, 03:33:55 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 02, 2013, 03:21:13 pm
Cracked open a Southern Tier Creme Brulee last night that I aged for a little over a year. The vanilla was incredibly overpowering, especially aroma-wise while I was drinking it out of a snifter. Was not a big fan suffice to say.

This is exactly what I said about this stuff awhile ago and got torn a new one over it. It's the flavorings that are too intense and over-done to the point of ruining that beer, and I usually love vanilla and caramel flavorings. Not so with this stuff.

it's a terrible beer with age, and the consensus seemed to be don't age it, drink it fresh on draft.

and i'm not sure you ever "got torn a new one over it".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 07, 2013, 09:17:46 am
Darth Ed, tearing Jaguar a new one:

Quote from: Darth Ed on December 04, 2012, 01:15:34 PM
Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout is released in June, according to their website. if you bought it in the winter, i suspect it was sitting on the shelf for a long time. Also, I've had it both ways, and it tastes far better on draft in my experience. It's supposedly flavored with real creme brulee, but I do wonder how that is possible. The flavor is very intense, and it certainly may not be for everyone.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 07, 2013, 09:34:58 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 07, 2013, 08:09:34 am
If y'all are looking for the best vanilla flavored porter that goes great with bbq tempeh tacos AND German chocolate birthday cake, this is what you need to get. Heavenly.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyzde4VEu91r73ywyo1_500.jpg)

That's a ruined computer waiting to happen!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jaguar on May 07, 2013, 10:05:51 am
James, there were other postings in there where others refused to accept what I said and made assumptions based on who wrote it, not what was said. So typical. Mine was the same age as BrettnotBritt's. It did not have a spoiled taste which even I recognize, especially when it comes to vanilla and caramel. There was too much flavoring added. Granted, it may very likely taste better on tap but in a bottle, which is what I had, it was horribly over-flavored. Even others agree with me as you see above but I guess you would prefer to ignore that. I love vanilla Coke but I wouldn't want that much added to my cola either. There is a big difference between the taste of spoilage as opposed to level of ingredients.

On another note, thanks for the suggestion of the vanilla porter. If I see it somewhere, I'll try it. I've been drinking the Leinenkugel Vanilla Porter when I go up to Seacrets for their half-priced entrees. (Their Catch of the Day is usually very good!) That's about the best you can get there regardless of personal tastes. Their beer selection is horrible and believe me, all of us would agree with that. Mostly low end crap. Leinenkugel and Blue Moon are about the best they offer and just maybe something from a localish brewer. Or maybe that crap Flat Tire. Don't remember exactly what all they offer. I can't remember. I go for the food. The Leinenkugel isn't really all that great but once you've had a few sips, it's not all that bad either. Let's call it 'acceptable' for my taste and not all that over-priced. They do use the perfect level of vanilla flavorings. It's just the beer itself that could use some improvement.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 07, 2013, 04:39:01 pm
Scored a bottle of Parabola.  :o

I also got a four pack of Surly's Overated West Coast IPA. Excited to try this...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 07, 2013, 11:16:30 pm
also got a parabola.  soooooooooo excited about this.  dunno how long i'm going to be able to hold off... must... cellar...  need... streeeeeeeeeeeength...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 08:51:00 am
Schlenkerla Fastenbier
Allagash Odyssey
Brooklyn Blast


Had these at Paradiso Old Town last night. All were very good.

Can definitely see why Fastenbier is the #1 smoked beer in the world on ratebeer. Definitely one of the best German produced beers I've had. Makes me want to go to Bamberg on our next trip to Germany.

The Oddysey is a barrel aged  10.4% abv dark wheat beer categorized as a "strong dark Belgian". It was very good and reminded me of a weizenbock (the best German beer style in my book). Though it wasn't as good as a Schneider Aventinus.

The Brooklyn Blast was a pleasant surprise (not typically a Brooklyn Brewery fan). It's a DIPA in name, but it's definitely low on the bitterness. Very refreshing with burst of flavor. A DIPA for people who don't like DIPA's (and for those who do but want something a little different).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on May 08, 2013, 09:26:10 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 07, 2013, 11:16:30 pm
also got a parabola.  soooooooooo excited about this.  dunno how long i'm going to be able to hold off... must... cellar...  need... streeeeeeeeeeeength...

Try to age it if you can. I popped one open in March that I bought last year and it was well worth the wait. Is it just me or is Parabola even harder to come by this year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 09:57:02 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 08:51:00 am
Schlenkerla Fastenbier
Allagash Odyssey
Brooklyn Blast


Had these at Paradiso Old Town last night. All were very good.

Can definitely see why Fastenbier is the #1 smoked beer in the world on ratebeer. Definitely one of the best German produced beers I've had. Makes me want to go to Bamberg on our next trip to Germany.

The Oddysey is a barrel aged  10.4% abv dark wheat beer categorized as a "strong dark Belgian". It was very good and reminded me of a weizenbock (the best German beer style in my book). Though it wasn't as good as a Schneider Aventinus.

The Brooklyn Blast was a pleasant surprise (not typically a Brooklyn Brewery fan). It's a DIPA in name, but it's definitely low on the bitterness. Very refreshing with burst of flavor. A DIPA for people who don't like DIPA's (and for those who do but want something a little different).

Funny I just read something from the Brooklyn Brewery guy who basically said Double IPA's were dumb.  I guess it was a few years ago.  Sell-out. 

He did make an interesting points in the article.  That Craft Breweries only have 4 percent of the market and if you keep introducing people to craft beers with double ipa's you won't get market share as people will say craft beer is awful.  And then go back to drinking mass produced beer.  He makes good points.  He also said a double IPA is like saying be a man and drink this it is the hoppiest beer you have ever drank is like a chef saying be a man and eat this roast as it is the saltiest roast you have ever tasted.

I agreed with all he said and then he does something stupid like make a double IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 10:14:39 am
Garrett Oliver is a cool black man who makes controversial statements that keep Brooklyn Brewery inthe limelight, but he himself is probably too busy doing book tours to have actually brwered any beer himself in the past few years.

I think he made that statement for the same reason the Sam Adams guy made his anti-IPA statement...sour hops. Neither of them have done a decent DIPA. Until now.

Your 4% seems like old numbers. It was 5.7% in 2011 and 6.5% in 2012. See below. That's a significant increase.


Bottom line is no matter where you are, the masses are going to drink the shitty stuff. Even in Belgium with all of their great Trappist and Trappist inspired ales that have been around forever, most people drink Jupilier and Stella. The masses drink beer to get drunk, not for taste. And tasteless lager goes down much faster than tasty beer.





The Brewers Association, which represents ?small? American breweries that produce less than six million barrels annually, proudly announced that craft beer had a terrific 2012. Across the board, craft beer numbers were up: 18% more breweries in the U.S., 15% more beer produced by volume, a 17% increase in sales, and a whopping rise of 72% in American craft beer exports.

Overall, beer sales by volume increased just 1% in 2012. Sales of traditional mass-produced beer in the U.S. have basically remained flat for several years, giving the impression that if consumers are drinking more beer, they?re probably turning to craft beverages. Drinkers even seem to be shying away from the usual beer options on chug-happy holidays like St. Patrick?s Day, when beer sales declined by 4% over the weekend at bars, compared to last year.

All that said, craft beer still accounts for a small portion of the market. A little over 10% of all U.S. dollars spent on beer is directed to craft brews, and in 2012 6.5% of the total volume of beer purchased in the U.S. was craft, up from 5.7% in 2011.



Read more: http://business.time.com/2013/03/22/as-craft-beer-gets-bigger-will-it-become-more-like-big-beer-or-perhaps-wine/#ixzz2Si5JfHfH


Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 09:57:02 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 08:51:00 am
Schlenkerla Fastenbier
Allagash Odyssey
Brooklyn Blast


Had these at Paradiso Old Town last night. All were very good.

Can definitely see why Fastenbier is the #1 smoked beer in the world on ratebeer. Definitely one of the best German produced beers I've had. Makes me want to go to Bamberg on our next trip to Germany.

The Oddysey is a barrel aged  10.4% abv dark wheat beer categorized as a "strong dark Belgian". It was very good and reminded me of a weizenbock (the best German beer style in my book). Though it wasn't as good as a Schneider Aventinus.

The Brooklyn Blast was a pleasant surprise (not typically a Brooklyn Brewery fan). It's a DIPA in name, but it's definitely low on the bitterness. Very refreshing with burst of flavor. A DIPA for people who don't like DIPA's (and for those who do but want something a little different).

Funny I just read something from the Brooklyn Brewery guy who basically said Double IPA's were dumb.  I guess it was a few years ago.  Sell-out. 

He did make an interesting points in the article.  That Craft Breweries only have 4 percent of the market and if you keep introducing people to craft beers with double ipa's you won't get market share as people will say craft beer is awful.  And then go back to drinking mass produced beer.  He makes good points.  He also said a double IPA is like saying be a man and drink this it is the hoppiest beer you have ever drank is like a chef saying be a man and eat this roast as it is the saltiest roast you have ever tasted.

I agreed with all he said and then he does something stupid like make a double IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 08, 2013, 10:15:53 am
i guess making something that people might enjoy . . . is out of the question.  so if the brooklyn brewer guy does like lambics, they are stupid too?  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 10:19:29 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 08, 2013, 10:15:53 am
i guess making something that people might enjoy . . . is out of the question.  so if the brooklyn brewer guy does like lambics, they are stupid too?  

Lambics are fine.  More breweries should make them.  But Lambics are a lot harder to make than a double IPA.  I also hate how so many craft brews are so strong.  Who wants to drink beers that are 9 percent all the time?  How many can you drink?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 08, 2013, 10:21:48 am
you know . . . i hate that too.  but then, i have to look at the fact that i only drink one or two of them a day; instead of the normal, local tradition of being on your 10th budweiser by 5:30pm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2013, 10:24:26 am
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 10:19:29 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 08, 2013, 10:15:53 am
i guess making something that people might enjoy . . . is out of the question.  so if the brooklyn brewer guy does like lambics, they are stupid too?  

Lambics are fine.  More breweries should make them.  But Lambics are a lot harder to make than a double IPA.  I also hate how so many craft brews are so strong.  Who wants to drink beers that are 9 percent all the time?  How many can you drink?

What's the point of drinking eight mediocre beers when you can drink two or three of a great beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 10:31:10 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 08, 2013, 10:21:48 am
you know . . . i hate that too.  but then, i have to look at the fact that i only drink one or two of them a day; instead of the normal, local tradition of being on your 10th budweiser by 5:30pm.

I might want to have 2 or 3 beers with dinner.  If I have 3 eight percent beers I shouldn't be driving. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2013, 10:32:04 am
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 10:31:10 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 08, 2013, 10:21:48 am
you know . . . i hate that too.  but then, i have to look at the fact that i only drink one or two of them a day; instead of the normal, local tradition of being on your 10th budweiser by 5:30pm.

I might want to have 2 or 3 beers with dinner.  If I have 3 eight percent beers I shouldn't be driving. 

This is true.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 08, 2013, 10:34:43 am
then only have one . . . is that so hard, you alcoholic slut?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 10:40:17 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 08, 2013, 10:34:43 am
then only have one . . . is that so hard, you alcoholic slut?

Actually having one is hard.  Once you have one you want another.  Especially if it is tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 08, 2013, 10:41:25 am
told you, you were a slut.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 11:04:00 am
I don't see the need to drink two or three beers with dinner all by myself. 12-16 ounces of beer plus a glass or two of water seems like a more than adequate amount of liquid.

Then again, I only weigh 169 pounds and aint built like a linebacker.

Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 10:31:10 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 08, 2013, 10:21:48 am
you know . . . i hate that too.  but then, i have to look at the fact that i only drink one or two of them a day; instead of the normal, local tradition of being on your 10th budweiser by 5:30pm.

I might want to have 2 or 3 beers with dinner.  If I have 3 eight percent beers I shouldn't be driving. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 11:18:02 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 08, 2013, 09:26:10 am
Try to age it if you can. I popped one open in March that I bought last year and it was well worth the wait. Is it just me or is Parabola even harder to come by this year?

oh, i will.  i was just reminiscing last night about the Parabola (and Sucuba, and 16, and...) that i had on tap during CBC.  it was awesome then, i can only imagine what this will be like after a year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 11:25:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 11:04:00 am

Then again, I only weigh 169 pounds and aint built like a linebacker.

 

At least you have your hair.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 11:26:16 am
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 09:57:02 am
That Craft Breweries only have 4 percent of the market and if you keep introducing people to craft beers with double ipa's you won't get market share as people will say craft beer is awful.  And then go back to drinking mass produced beer.  He makes good points.  He also said a double IPA is like saying be a man and drink this it is the hoppiest beer you have ever drank is like a chef saying be a man and eat this roast as it is the saltiest roast you have ever tasted.

I agreed with all he said and then he does something stupid like make a double IPA.

you can't deal with a DIPA, we get it.  many of us do like them, note how quickly many DIPAs sell out.

and your 4% number is old.  craft beer is knocking on the 10% mark... and the #1 driver of that growth is big, hoppy beers.  people aren't saying hoppy = awful. quite on the contrary, it's introducing folks to the fact that beer can be incredibly flavorful.  many folks move on to big stouts, coffee porters, weird belgians, fruit-aged kolsch, sours, etc... but the hop bomb is the gateway beer.

edit: agree with Ford about the sour hops.  they day that BB and SA figure out how to make an award-winning DIPA is the day they retract those statements.  i'm not holding my breath, but it's fine by me.  not everyone needs to make one.  i much prefer BB's belgian-influenced offerings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 08, 2013, 11:38:07 am
my favorite (its hard to not add that u, for no reason) thing to do is to find the hoppiest, most ipaiest beer i can find, and just drink one . . . then walk around smelling like i have drunk five.  that always works out great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on May 08, 2013, 12:00:41 pm
I am partial to the porters, big stouts, and belgians.  Not so much with the hoppy beers.  I was when I was 22 though, so that probably was a gateway for me  :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 12:03:51 pm
I realized I posted this right after mentioning having three beers at dinner.

To clarify, the three beers were shared with my wife, and were 12 oz, 12 oz, and 9 oz. So 16.5 oz each.


Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 11:04:00 am
I don't see the need to drink two or three beers with dinner all by myself. 12-16 ounces of beer plus a glass or two of water seems like a more than adequate amount of liquid.

Then again, I only weigh 169 pounds and aint built like a linebacker.

Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 10:31:10 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 08, 2013, 10:21:48 am
you know . . . i hate that too.  but then, i have to look at the fact that i only drink one or two of them a day; instead of the normal, local tradition of being on your 10th budweiser by 5:30pm.

I might want to have 2 or 3 beers with dinner.  If I have 3 eight percent beers I shouldn't be driving. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 12:16:03 pm
if you've ever wanted an opportunity to taste a bunch of excellent and very different homebrewed beers, consider coming to the meridian pint on saturday afternoon (May 11).

i, along with the other 14 finalists of the DC Homebrewers / DC101/ Sam Adams 3rd Annual Homebrew Competition will be pouring our beers from 1 pm to 4 pm. entry is a $15 donation to Brainfood, mo' info:  http://www.dcbeer.com/event/dc-homebrewers-sam-adams-3rd-annual-homebrew-competition-meridian-pint

for what you'd pay for 2 pints, you'll have an opportunity to taste 15 great homebrews and support a good cause.  all beers being served won the first round of competition so quality will range from really good to OMG excellent.  all styles were covered so it won't be all hop bombs ;D  in case anyone wants to say hi - i'll be pouring my kolsch which won the lawnmower category.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 12:18:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 12:16:03 pm
if you've ever wanted an opportunity to taste a bunch of excellent and very different homebrewed beers, consider coming to the meridian pint on saturday afternoon (May 11).

i, along with the other 14 finalists of the DC Homebrewers / DC101/ Sam Adams 3rd Annual Homebrew Competition will be pouring our beers from 1 pm to 4 pm. entry is a $15 donation to Brainfood, mo' info:  http://www.dcbeer.com/event/dc-homebrewers-sam-adams-3rd-annual-homebrew-competition-meridian-pint

for what you'd pay for 2 pints, you'll have an opportunity to taste 15 great homebrews and support a good cause.  all beers being served won the first round of competition so quality will range from really good to OMG excellent.  all styles were covered so it won't be all hop bombs ;D  in case anyone wants to say hi - i'll be pouring my kolsch which won the lawnmower category.

I love me some Kolsch.  Sounds like a great time.  If I were in DC area i would definitley go.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 08, 2013, 12:24:17 pm
lawnmower category?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 12:24:48 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 08, 2013, 12:24:17 pm
lawnmover category?

Beer to drink while mowing the lawn?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 08, 2013, 12:25:23 pm
damn . . . you froze my mistake.  but i like lawnmover too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 12:35:09 pm
The only beer drank by people who mow lawns are Corona and Tecate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 12:36:16 pm
lawnmover... i like it!

a lawnmower beer is one that you want to drink after mowing the lawn on a hot summer day.  emphasis is on crispness and how refreshing it is.  typically alcohol is low, my kolsch clocks in at 5.2% abv which is on the high side for a lawnmower.  i think it's a category atomicfront would enjoy - hops can't be very prominent since there they need to be in balance with the rest of the beer which is rather light. http://beer.about.com/od/beerstyles/a/Lawnmower-Beer-Styles.htm

edit: just saw afront's reply... called it ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 08, 2013, 12:38:36 pm
and that . . . is how a ______ is named.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on May 08, 2013, 01:44:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 12:35:09 pm
The only beer drank by people who mow lawns are Corona and Tecate.

beer thread just got racist, classy
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 02:14:27 pm
Oh, it's always fun and righteous to toss out the "r" word on a message boards, isn't it? Makes you feel so moral and superior, right?

In my neighborhood, I mostly see Latin Americans getting paid to mow the lawns of lazy shit suburbanites. And when I go to Total Wine in Springfield, which is located in a highly concentrated area of low and lower middle class Latino population, I see that population buying Corona and Tecate by the truckload.

I'm just calling it like I see it, fatty.


Quote from: fatskippy on May 08, 2013, 01:44:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 12:35:09 pm
The only beer drank by people who mow lawns are Corona and Tecate.

beer thread just got racist, classy
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2013, 02:15:17 pm
My partner just reported that she picked me up two more bottles of Parabola.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2013, 02:18:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 02:14:27 pm
Oh, it's always fun and righteous to toss out the "r" word on a message boards, isn't it? Makes you feel so moral and superior, right?

In my neighborhood, I mostly see Latin Americans getting paid to mow the lawns of lazy shit suburbanites. And when I go to Total Wine in Springfield, which is located in a highly concentrated area of low and lower middle class Latino population, I see that population buying Corona and Tecate by the truckload.

I'm just calling it like I see it, fatty.


Quote from: fatskippy on May 08, 2013, 01:44:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 12:35:09 pm
The only beer drank by people who mow lawns are Corona and Tecate.

beer thread just got racist, classy

I like Highlife when I cut the grass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 02:22:01 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 02:14:27 pm
Oh, it's always fun and righteous to toss out the "r" word on a message boards, isn't it? Makes you feel so moral and superior, right?

In my neighborhood, I mostly see Latin Americans getting paid to mow the lawns of lazy shit suburbanites. And when I go to Total Wine in Springfield, which is located in a highly concentrated area of low and lower middle class Latino population, I see that population buying Corona and Tecate by the truckload.

I'm just calling it like I see it, fatty.


Quote from: fatskippy on May 08, 2013, 01:44:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 12:35:09 pm
The only beer drank by people who mow lawns are Corona and Tecate.

beer thread just got racist, classy

I went to a place in San Antonio recently that had like 200 beers on tap.   And some friends show up and one orders a bottle of Tecate.  He said he wanted to get something he knew would taste good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 08, 2013, 02:27:50 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 02:22:01 pm
I went to a place in San Antonio recently that had like 200 beers on tap.   And some [former] friends show up and one orders a bottle of Tecate.  He said he wanted to get something he knew would taste good.

FTFY
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 02:32:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 12:36:16 pm
lawnmover... i like it!

a lawnmower beer is one that you want to drink after mowing the lawn on a hot summer day.  emphasis is on crispness and how refreshing it is.  typically alcohol is low, my kolsch clocks in at 5.2% abv which is on the high side for a lawnmower.  i think it's a category atomicfront would enjoy - hops can't be very prominent since there they need to be in balance with the rest of the beer which is rather light. http://beer.about.com/od/beerstyles/a/Lawnmower-Beer-Styles.htm

edit: just saw afront's reply... called it ;D

I like the beer types in that list.  But I also like beers with some hopiness.  I enjoy beers with 60 IBUS.  It is just when beers get over 70 IBUS that I start not liking them.  I enjoy Dogfish Heads 60 minute IPA and Indian Brown Ale.  Hops are good up until the point when they become overpowering. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 02:48:44 pm
Just because a beer has a high IBU number doesn't necessarily mean it's hoppy. Founders Imperial Stout has an IBU of 90, and "hoppy" isn't really a word that comes to mind when i try to describe the taste of that beer.

Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 02:32:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 12:36:16 pm
lawnmover... i like it!

a lawnmower beer is one that you want to drink after mowing the lawn on a hot summer day.  emphasis is on crispness and how refreshing it is.  typically alcohol is low, my kolsch clocks in at 5.2% abv which is on the high side for a lawnmower.  i think it's a category atomicfront would enjoy - hops can't be very prominent since there they need to be in balance with the rest of the beer which is rather light. http://beer.about.com/od/beerstyles/a/Lawnmower-Beer-Styles.htm

edit: just saw afront's reply... called it ;D

I like the beer types in that list.  But I also like beers with some hopiness.  I enjoy beers with 60 IBUS.  It is just when beers get over 70 IBUS that I start not liking them.  I enjoy Dogfish Heads 60 minute IPA and Indian Brown Ale.  Hops are good up until the point when they become overpowering. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 02:53:11 pm
It's interesting that Kock from BBC and Oliver from BB would have two opposite arguments to bash DIPA's.

Kock seems to be arguing that DIPA's are for simpletons, you need to advance beyond DIPA's before you can achieve true palate sophistication.

Whereas Oliver seems to be saying that DIPA's are too out there (sophisticated?) for the typical beer simpleton to latch onto, and that's what's preventing the growth of the craft industry.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 02:53:11 pm
It's interesting that Kock from BBC and Oliver from BB would have two opposite arguments to bash DIPA's.

Kock seems to be arguing that DIPA's are for simpletons, you need to advance beyond DIPA's before you can achieve true palate sophistication.

Whereas Oliver seems to be saying that DIPA's are too out there (sophisticated?) for the typical beer simpleton to latch onto, and that's what's preventing the growth of the craft industry.

Oliver isn't saying that at all.  That is coming from you.  He is saying extreme beers turn most people off to craft beer as it isn't very palatable. 

But who cares what people think about the beer you like.  Drink what you like.  If Oliver and Kock argue against what difference does it make to you?  If you want to drink Corona every day and you love it..good for you.  I just hate people following trends and liking what others tell them to like.  If you truely like incredibly hoppie beer more power to you.  I mean there are people who love incredibly salty food.  They think it is the best.   

I am getting tired of the argument.  But to consider one type of beer superior to another is silly.   Any type of beer can incredible.  If you are only drinking super hoppie IPA's I think you are really missing out to all the great beers out there but in the end its your choice.  Lets move on from this. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 03:35:33 pm
And I would argue that super hoppy beers are one of the biggest reasons people who come over to the craft side do so. They want beer that's 180 degrees different than macro swill. Is that the only reason people come over to the craft side? No. Craft is kicking macro's asses in every genre of beer.


The idea that super hoppy beer is preventing people from seeing the light of craft beer is absurd. Simply because most craft beer isn't super hoppy.

What's preventing most people from seeing the light of craft is most people don't drink what tastes good. They drink what corporate America tells them to drink.

And apparently you don't read my posts. I don't just drink super hoppy beers. In fact, I don't think anybody in this thread has made that claim.


Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 02:53:11 pm
It's interesting that Kock from BBC and Oliver from BB would have two opposite arguments to bash DIPA's.

Kock seems to be arguing that DIPA's are for simpletons, you need to advance beyond DIPA's before you can achieve true palate sophistication.

Whereas Oliver seems to be saying that DIPA's are too out there (sophisticated?) for the typical beer simpleton to latch onto, and that's what's preventing the growth of the craft industry.

Oliver isn't saying that at all.  That is coming from you.  He is saying extreme beers turn most people off to craft beer as it isn't very palatable. 

But who cares what people think about the beer you like.  Drink what you like.  If Oliver and Kock argue against what difference does it make to you?  If you want to drink Corona every day and you love it..good for you.  I just hate people following trends and liking what others tell them to like.  If you truely like incredibly hoppie beer more power to you.  I mean there are people who love incredibly salty food.  They think it is the best.   

I am getting tired of the argument.  But to consider one type of beer superior to another is silly.   Any type of beer can incredible.  If you are only drinking super hoppie IPA's I think you are really missing out to all the great beers out there but in the end its your choice.  Lets move on from this. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 03:40:37 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 02:22:01 pm
I went to a place in San Antonio recently that had like 200 beers on tap.   And some friends show up and one orders a bottle of Tecate.  He said he wanted to get something he knew would taste good.

well that's sad.  there are all sorts of pale ales and lagers that could have appealed to your friend.  then again some people are stuck in their ways and are unable to enjoy anything new.  

Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 02:32:00 pm
But I also like beers with some hopiness.  I enjoy beers with 60 IBUS.  It is just when beers get over 70 IBUS that I start not liking them.  I enjoy Dogfish Heads 60 minute IPA and Indian Brown Ale.  Hops are good up until the point when they become overpowering.  

right, and that "point when they become overpowering" varies with how big the beer is.  60 IBUs in a light lager will be overkill, while 60 IBUs in barley wine or a DIPA will be very very low - because the light pilsner will be low gravity (low alcohol), while the barley wine and the DIPA are high alcohol/high intensity/etc.  you need hops to balance out the alcohol, and you need alcohol to go with that much hops.

from a brewing standpoint, one way of looking at that ratio is BU:GU, or bitterness units to gravity units, or IBUs to OG.  each beer style has a range for that ratio.  60 IBUs in a 1.040 light lager is 60:40 = 1.5, which is ridiculously high.  60 IBUs in a 1.080 IPA = 0.75 which is at the low end for the style.  another way of looking at it:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3tbeYQvrj6o/TRoQRteYA9I/AAAAAAAAECA/fwV8eB1O8VM/s1600/bugu.png)

from http://finnhillbrewing.blogspot.com/2011/04/bugu-ratios.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 03:44:26 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Oliver isn't saying that at all.  [...] He is saying extreme beers turn most people off to craft beer as it isn't very palatable. 

do you happen to have a link to where he said that?  because industry trends prove him wrong.  IPAs and DIPAs/IIPAs have been the fastest growing type of beers in the last few years and Oliver, an industry guy, knows this.  so that argument doesn't hold - it's not driving people away, it's reeling them in.

i suspect he said something similar to what you quote him as saying, but not exactly what you said...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 03:51:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 03:44:26 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Oliver isn't saying that at all.  [...] He is saying extreme beers turn most people off to craft beer as it isn't very palatable. 

do you happen to have a link to where he said that?  because industry trends prove him wrong.  IPAs and DIPAs/IIPAs have been the fastest growing type of beers in the last few years and Oliver, an industry guy, knows this.  so that argument doesn't hold - it's not driving people away, it's reeling them in.

i suspect he said something similar to what you quote him as saying, but not exactly what you said...

This is a 10 page article.  It is near the end.. Maybe around page 7 or 8. But read the whole thing as it is interesting. 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/24/081124fa_fact_bilger?currentPage=1 (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/24/081124fa_fact_bilger?currentPage=1)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 03:53:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 03:40:37 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 02:22:01 pm
I went to a place in San Antonio recently that had like 200 beers on tap.   And some friends show up and one orders a bottle of Tecate.  He said he wanted to get something he knew would taste good.

well that's sad.  there are all sorts of pale ales and lagers that could have appealed to your friend.  then again some people are stuck in their ways and are unable to enjoy anything new.  

Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 02:32:00 pm
But I also like beers with some hopiness.  I enjoy beers with 60 IBUS.  It is just when beers get over 70 IBUS that I start not liking them.  I enjoy Dogfish Heads 60 minute IPA and Indian Brown Ale.  Hops are good up until the point when they become overpowering.  

right, and that "point when they become overpowering" varies with how big the beer is.  60 IBUs in a light lager will be overkill, while 60 IBUs in barley wine or a DIPA will be very very low - because the light pilsner will be low gravity (low alcohol), while the barley wine and the DIPA are high alcohol/high intensity/etc.  you need hops to balance out the alcohol, and you need alcohol to go with that much hops.

from a brewing standpoint, one way of looking at that ratio is BU:GU, or bitterness units to gravity units, or IBUs to OG.  each beer style has a range for that ratio.  60 IBUs in a 1.040 light lager is 60:40 = 1.5, which is ridiculously high.  60 IBUs in a 1.080 IPA = 0.75 which is at the low end for the style.  another way of looking at it:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3tbeYQvrj6o/TRoQRteYA9I/AAAAAAAAECA/fwV8eB1O8VM/s1600/bugu.png)

from http://finnhillbrewing.blogspot.com/2011/04/bugu-ratios.html

Too much to figure out, when I get past brewing from recipes. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on May 08, 2013, 03:54:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 02:14:27 pm
Oh, it's always fun and righteous to toss out the "r" word on a message boards, isn't it? Makes you feel so moral and superior, right?

In my neighborhood, I mostly see Latin Americans getting paid to mow the lawns of lazy shit suburbanites. And when I go to Total Wine in Springfield, which is located in a highly concentrated area of low and lower middle class Latino population, I see that population buying Corona and Tecate by the truckload.

I'm just calling it like I see it, fatty.


Quote from: fatskippy on May 08, 2013, 01:44:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 12:35:09 pm
The only beer drank by people who mow lawns are Corona and Tecate.

beer thread just got racist, classy

I'm just calling it like I see it, Sheriff Arpaio. And LOL @ mowing your own lawn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 04:24:37 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 03:53:17 pm
Too much to figure out, when I get past brewing from recipes. 

cool, the take-home message is that the bigger the beer, the more IBUs it can handle without tasting more bitter.  saying "i like X number of IBUs" doesn't really stand on its own... you need to say that you like that number of IBUs in a Y% abv beer (as a proxy for original gravity).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on May 08, 2013, 05:23:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 02:14:27 pm
Oh, it's always fun and righteous to toss out the "r" word on a message boards, isn't it? Makes you feel so moral and superior, right?

In my neighborhood, I mostly see Latin Americans getting paid to mow the lawns of lazy shit suburbanites. And when I go to Total Wine in Springfield, which is located in a highly concentrated area of low and lower middle class Latino population, I see that population buying Corona and Tecate by the truckload.

I'm just calling it like I see it, fatty.


Quote from: fatskippy on May 08, 2013, 01:44:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 12:35:09 pm
The only beer drank by people who mow lawns are Corona and Tecate.

beer thread just got racist, classy

(http://iheartthreadbared.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/3223223918_8c26b9105d_o.jpg?w=515&h=565)

Don't you have something more important to worry about? - B
I don't find this offensive - I
Stereotypes exist because they have truth in them - N
You're just trying to tell everyone what to thing - G
You're just looking for something to be offended about. - O

BINGO!!!! Gotta BINGO up in here!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2013, 08:57:23 pm
Good article. I read it in 2008, when it first came out. That's where your 4% figure came from.

Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 03:51:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 08, 2013, 03:44:26 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on May 08, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Oliver isn't saying that at all.  [...] He is saying extreme beers turn most people off to craft beer as it isn't very palatable. 

do you happen to have a link to where he said that?  because industry trends prove him wrong.  IPAs and DIPAs/IIPAs have been the fastest growing type of beers in the last few years and Oliver, an industry guy, knows this.  so that argument doesn't hold - it's not driving people away, it's reeling them in.

i suspect he said something similar to what you quote him as saying, but not exactly what you said...

This is a 10 page article.  It is near the end.. Maybe around page 7 or 8. But read the whole thing as it is interesting. 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/24/081124fa_fact_bilger?currentPage=1 (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/24/081124fa_fact_bilger?currentPage=1)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2013, 12:51:16 am
Barmy Wines & Liquors (1912 L Street NW at 19th) has some Russian River offerings as of this evening: Temptation, Supplication, Pliny, and another sour that escapes me at the moment.  pretty damn expensive, tho - the top-shelf stuff (including Pliny) was going for $29.99 a bottle.  manager dude told me that since RR doesn't distribute in DC he had to get it indirectly and the additional steps in the distribution chain = additional cost. i didn't buy any, but FYI.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 11, 2013, 09:19:45 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 11, 2013, 12:51:16 am
Barmy Wines & Liquors (1912 L Street NW at 19th) has some Russian River offerings as of this evening: Temptation, Supplication, Pliny, and another sour that escapes me at the moment.  pretty damn expensive, tho - the top-shelf stuff (including Pliny) was going for $29.99 a bottle.  manager dude told me that since RR doesn't distribute in DC he had to get it indirectly and the additional steps in the distribution chain = additional cost. i didn't buy any, but FYI.

Whoa...there is mark up and there is highway robbery. That is ludicrous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 11, 2013, 10:36:34 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2013, 09:19:45 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 11, 2013, 12:51:16 am
Barmy Wines & Liquors (1912 L Street NW at 19th) has some Russian River offerings as of this evening: Temptation, Supplication, Pliny, and another sour that escapes me at the moment.  pretty damn expensive, tho - the top-shelf stuff (including Pliny) was going for $29.99 a bottle.  manager dude told me that since RR doesn't distribute in DC he had to get it indirectly and the additional steps in the distribution chain = additional cost. i didn't buy any, but FYI.

Whoa...there is mark up and there is highway robbery. That is ludicrous.

Well, somebody has to pay the legal fees when the cops arrest him after reading this thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 11, 2013, 11:47:51 am
Although it's highway robbery, in DC it's not actually illegal (I think.).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 12, 2013, 08:54:05 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 11, 2013, 11:47:51 am
Although it's highway robbery, in DC it's not actually illegal (I think.).


Correct, not illegal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 12, 2013, 07:41:03 pm
Wowee. We scored a growler of Avery MAharaja for $10 on MA-thers Day. This beer is one of the few brutes that can put my chili in its place. And I luv it And it's getting better as it warms.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2013, 10:34:35 am
where the hell did you get maharaja for $10/growler?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 13, 2013, 11:48:07 am
im coming to dc for the next two days.  im going to drink some beer.  i wonder if it is still cop week?  oh yeah . . . half naked cops and beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 13, 2013, 12:48:07 pm
My 72 year old mom did the single coolest thing of her life a couple of weeks ago. My brother took her to the Alchemist, where she sampled Heady Topper and brought home a four pack for herself. She drank one and decided drinking a whole can was far too much for her. So she said she'd save the other three until August, when she sees me.

No, MOM, drink those Heady's now. They're best fresh!

She also said she preferred some of hte Magic Hat beers she sampled to Heady.  ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2013, 01:08:12 pm
it's american craft beer week!
http://www.craftbeer.com/news-and-events/american-craft-beer-week

it's no CBC, but there are various events going like like a free tasting at Cordial Fine Wines on Thursday (walking distance from Noma-Gallaudet), and a Stone is doing a tap take-over at the Iron Horse on Thursday, etc.  calendar: http://www.craftbeer.com/news-and-events/calendar?event_type=530
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 13, 2013, 01:16:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 13, 2013, 12:48:07 pm
My 72 year old mom did the single coolest thing of her life a couple of weeks ago. My brother took her to the Alchemist, where she sampled Heady Topper and brought home a four pack for herself. She drank one and decided drinking a whole can was far too much for her. So she said she'd save the other three until August, when she sees me.

No, MOM, drink those Heady's now. They're best fresh!

She also said she preferred some of hte Magic Hat beers she sampled to Heady.  ::)

I drank two Toppers out of my last four pack over the weekend that are nearly 6 months old and there was little to no degradation in taste, still absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 13, 2013, 01:39:45 pm
I had some that were 3+ month old and they seemed to have dropped off a little bit (to me). Still very good though.

Quote from: Yada on May 13, 2013, 01:16:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 13, 2013, 12:48:07 pm
My 72 year old mom did the single coolest thing of her life a couple of weeks ago. My brother took her to the Alchemist, where she sampled Heady Topper and brought home a four pack for herself. She drank one and decided drinking a whole can was far too much for her. So she said she'd save the other three until August, when she sees me.

No, MOM, drink those Heady's now. They're best fresh!

She also said she preferred some of hte Magic Hat beers she sampled to Heady.  ::)

I drank two Toppers out of my last four pack over the weekend that are nearly 6 months old and there was little to no degradation in taste, still absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 14, 2013, 11:32:22 am
Heavy Seas Alehouse coming to Arlington (http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/breaking_ground/2013/05/baltimore-brewer-plans-rosslyn-location.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 14, 2013, 11:35:41 am
Quote from: Shemp on May 14, 2013, 11:32:22 am
Heavy Seas Alehouse coming to Arlington (http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/breaking_ground/2013/05/baltimore-brewer-plans-rosslyn-location.html)

The restaurant in Baltimore is pretty awesome.  Great food. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 14, 2013, 08:40:57 pm
Parabola dropped at Total Wine today with a one bottle limit.

With three stores withing 10 miles of my house and two people, I suppose we could have nabbed more than the one bottle we did. But i'm happy with one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 16, 2013, 10:02:27 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 13, 2013, 01:08:12 pm
it's american craft beer week!
http://www.craftbeer.com/news-and-events/american-craft-beer-week

it's no CBC, but there are various events going like like a free tasting at Cordial Fine Wines on Thursday (walking distance from Noma-Gallaudet), and a Stone is doing a tap take-over at the Iron Horse on Thursday, etc.  calendar: http://www.craftbeer.com/news-and-events/calendar?event_type=530

http://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/american-craft-beer-week-a-handy-guide.htm

not a whole lot, but there are a few things on offer.  good weekend to be in frederick!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 16, 2013, 10:18:07 am
Several area Total Wines had a couple of varieties of Cantillon for about five minutes yesterday, seemingly without any advance notice in the beer community. Didn't snag any.

Though we did have their gueze when were in Bruges, and I didn't care for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 16, 2013, 10:27:51 am
So I ended up buying airline tickets to Munich last night.  Are there are any brewery tours worth taking in Munich? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 16, 2013, 10:39:43 am
No beer tours to be done, but I highly recommend the Hirschgarten Beer Graden in Munich. Also highly reocommend a visit to Kloster Andechs. Note: Involves a train ride to the suburbs/country and some non-strenuous hiking, but it's beautiful once you get there.

I also found the book called Beer Drinkers Guide to Munich to be a highly worthwhile investment.




www.beerdrinkersguide.com

http://www.beerdrinkersguide.com/BDGWebsite/Gardens/Hirschgarten.htm

http://www.beerdrinkersguide.com/BDGWebsite/Gardens/KlosterAndechs.htm


Quote from: atomicfront on May 16, 2013, 10:27:51 am
So I ended up buying airline tickets to Munich last night.  Are there are any brewery tours worth taking in Munich? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 16, 2013, 11:13:53 am
Quote from: atomicfront on May 16, 2013, 10:27:51 am
So I ended up buying airline tickets to Munich last night. 

let this be a lesson to you - don't drink and internet, kids.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 16, 2013, 02:25:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 16, 2013, 10:39:43 am
No beer tours to be done, but I highly recommend the Hirschgarten Beer Graden in Munich. Also highly reocommend a visit to Kloster Andechs. Note: Involves a train ride to the suburbs/country and some non-strenuous hiking, but it's beautiful once you get there.

I also found the book called Beer Drinkers Guide to Munich to be a highly worthwhile investment.




www.beerdrinkersguide.com

http://www.beerdrinkersguide.com/BDGWebsite/Gardens/Hirschgarten.htm

http://www.beerdrinkersguide.com/BDGWebsite/Gardens/KlosterAndechs.htm


Quote from: atomicfront on May 16, 2013, 10:27:51 am
So I ended up buying airline tickets to Munich last night.  Are there are any brewery tours worth taking in Munich? 

I will check those out.  Thanks.  Do you mean there are no brewery tours or no brewery tours worth doing? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 16, 2013, 02:44:20 pm
I think Kloster Andechs has one tour a week, but I read that it's in German. They make the best dopplebock on the world (imo), and their other stuff is very good as well. As most of the major breweries in Munich ship here and (imo) are of lesser (but often still good) quality, that's really the beer geeks Munich area biggest goto destination.

A google search gave me this info from 2010 (we didn't go on any of them so can't comment):


http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g187309-i118-k4017874-Brewery_tours_in_or_around_Munich-Munich_Bavaria.html


Tours:


Hofbräu, 10? per person, book at least 2 weeks in advance for tour in English: www.hofbraeu-muenchen.de/brewery/tour.html


pdf brochure on Hofbnräu tour: hofbraeu-muenchen.de/download/Brauereifuehru?




Paulaner, 8? per person: paulaner-serviceportal.de/131.0.488b7b5a41d3?




Augustiner: doesn't seem to offer a tour




Hacker-Pschorr: tours only on demand. Contact details:


Hacker-Pschorr Bräuhaus


Theresienhöhe 7


80339 München


Telefon: (089) 500 59 38-11


Telefax: (089) 500 59 38-22


eMail: mail@hacker-pschorrbraeu.de




Löwenbräu/Spaten/Franziskaner, 9.80? per person (they're one company and share a tour): http://tinyurl.com/3yhfknm




3rd party tour operator for brewery tour (of the Löwenbräu/Spaten/Franziskaner group), Beertour Munich, 29? per person: http://tinyurl.com/2v2uys7


Quote from: atomicfront on May 16, 2013, 02:25:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 16, 2013, 10:39:43 am
No beer tours to be done, but I highly recommend the Hirschgarten Beer Graden in Munich. Also highly reocommend a visit to Kloster Andechs. Note: Involves a train ride to the suburbs/country and some non-strenuous hiking, but it's beautiful once you get there.

I also found the book called Beer Drinkers Guide to Munich to be a highly worthwhile investment.




www.beerdrinkersguide.com

http://www.beerdrinkersguide.com/BDGWebsite/Gardens/Hirschgarten.htm

http://www.beerdrinkersguide.com/BDGWebsite/Gardens/KlosterAndechs.htm


Quote from: atomicfront on May 16, 2013, 10:27:51 am
So I ended up buying airline tickets to Munich last night.  Are there are any brewery tours worth taking in Munich? 

I will check those out.  Thanks.  Do you mean there are no brewery tours or no brewery tours worth doing? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 17, 2013, 07:24:59 pm
Mowed the lawn, rode my bike (but not to work), and now enjoying a nice lawnmower beer.

(http://bestofbrussels.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/trappistes-rochefort-10-beer.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 17, 2013, 10:50:16 pm
i bet you are fun . . . when you are good beer giddy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2013, 12:38:21 pm
not exactly what i'd call a traditional lawnmower beer, but rock on ;D

speaking of belgians: last night i had a Dupont "Cuvee Dry Hopping 2013".  absolutely fantastic.  adding the aroma of hops (in the case Triskel, a new european variety) to a traditional saison just works perfectly.  i'll be grabbing a bunch more of these.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 18, 2013, 02:53:01 pm
It was also our 10th anniversary yesterday.  ;D
Quote from: sweetcell on May 18, 2013, 12:38:21 pm
not exactly what i'd call a traditional lawnmower beer, but rock on ;D

speaking of belgians: last night i had a Dupont "Cuvee Dry Hopping 2013".  absolutely fantastic.  adding the aroma of hops (in the case Triskel, a new european variety) to a traditional saison just works perfectly.  i'll be grabbing a bunch more of these.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 18, 2013, 03:25:21 pm
And speaking of lawnmower beers, my Iranian neighbors have three Latino men out doing their lawn as I type this. Should I go offer them my last Rochefort 10?  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on May 19, 2013, 05:39:46 am
Port City's Borracho Smokin' Brown Ale was pretty damn tasty. There was only 2 kegs of it at The Pinch so it went rather quickly I think. It was certainly smoky! Crazy how so many area bands get their own beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 23, 2013, 08:34:57 am
(http://media.tumblr.com/a369fb0d4928fb39b38d15f3363c7601/tumblr_inline_mmnn2dNgDz1qz4rgp.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on May 23, 2013, 09:39:50 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 17, 2013, 07:24:59 pm
Mowed the lawn, rode my bike (but not to work), and now enjoying a nice lawnmower beer.

(http://bestofbrussels.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/trappistes-rochefort-10-beer.jpg)

That isnt' a lawnmower beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 30, 2013, 03:50:58 pm
It might be hard to believe but Hanson have now been a band for more than two decades. In honor of their 21st birthday, the group has officially launched their own beer, ?Mmmhops.?

http://www.relix.com/news/2013/05/28/hanson-unveil-new-mmmhops-beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 30, 2013, 03:57:16 pm
VT roadtrip was fun last week. HF birthday celebration was a little challenging with 30mph winds, 30 degree temperatures and camping in the snow  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 30, 2013, 04:09:38 pm
I believe it's time for another 9:30 bottle share party.
 ;)


Quote from: brennser on May 30, 2013, 03:57:16 pm
VT roadtrip was fun last week. HF birthday celebration was a little challenging with 30mph winds, 30 degree temperatures and camping in the snow  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 31, 2013, 08:58:50 am
Don't worry theres plenty to go around  ;D the sooner the better though, those hops are like dying flowers......

Quote from: James Ford on May 30, 2013, 04:09:38 pm
I believe it's time for another 9:30 bottle share party.
 ;)


Quote from: brennser on May 30, 2013, 03:57:16 pm
VT roadtrip was fun last week. HF birthday celebration was a little challenging with 30mph winds, 30 degree temperatures and camping in the snow  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 31, 2013, 09:52:26 am
Does Left Hand Brewing Company distribute anywhere in DC? If so, where can I pick up some Milk Stout Nitro?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 31, 2013, 10:11:27 am
Not DC but have seen it at Arrowwine

Quote from: Yada on May 31, 2013, 09:52:26 am
Does Left Hand Brewing Company distribute anywhere in DC? If so, where can I pick up some Milk Stout Nitro?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 31, 2013, 10:24:06 am
Quote from: brennser on May 31, 2013, 10:11:27 am
Not DC but have seen it at Arrowwine

Quote from: Yada on May 31, 2013, 09:52:26 am
Does Left Hand Brewing Company distribute anywhere in DC? If so, where can I pick up some Milk Stout Nitro?

Thank you sir! Had it for the first time a few months ago out of cask and have been craving it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 11:02:55 am
My mom brought me 11 Heady Toppers in her luggage last week (free baggage check on Southwest, wish she had brought more!). One of the cans leaked all all over her the inside of the bag. Thought about licking the bag, but didn't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 31, 2013, 11:11:11 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 11:02:55 am
My mom brought me 11 Heady Toppers in her luggage last week (free baggage check on Southwest, wish she had brought more!). One of the cans leaked all all over her the inside of the bag. Thought about licking the bag, but didn't.

Heh... already have plans for my summer trip up there. I'm basically checking a whole suitcase full of beer for the flight home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 11:17:38 am
Got you beat! Driving to a work conference in Montreal in August and heading home via Vermont.

How much Dieu de Ciel, Heady Topper, Hill Farmstead and Lawsons do you think I can fit in a RAV4 with three people in it? Gonne have to put the dog on the roof, like Mitt did.

Quote from: Yada on May 31, 2013, 11:11:11 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 11:02:55 am
My mom brought me 11 Heady Toppers in her luggage last week (free baggage check on Southwest, wish she had brought more!). One of the cans leaked all all over her the inside of the bag. Thought about licking the bag, but didn't.

Heh... already have plans for my summer trip up there. I'm basically checking a whole suitcase full of beer for the flight home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 31, 2013, 11:50:46 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 30, 2013, 04:09:38 pm
I believe it's time for another 9:30 bottle share party.
 ;)

bring it on!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 31, 2013, 01:00:17 pm
We had a Honda Fit and it was low riding by the end of the weekend - RAV 4 should be able to take a bit more weight

we picked up 2 cases of Heady each

Lawsons was hard to find - there were beer geeks stalking the places (there are only 2 or 3) that had it so we had to settle for 2 bottles of Chinookered each

Frankly Hill Farmstead is a shitshow - the beer is good and I guess they are so popular they don't really have to give a shit but I would time your arrival at the brewery very very carefully, i.e. close to when it opens on a weekday because if there are more than 30 people ahead of you in line plan on waiting 2-3 hours for growlers/bottles - why I hear you say? Well i'm really not sure but everyone is buying the 5 growler limit plus bottles plus stemware, it takes (and I am not exagerrating here) literally 5 minutes to fill a growler - they have their taps on the lowest pressure setting. WHen all was said and done i ended up with a full growler of Abner, and 750s of Ephraim, What Is Enlightenment and Grassroots Legitimacy IPA plus 3 bottles of Arthur and 2 bottles of Grassroots Brother Soigne which were the only bottles available.

Then my buddy got the same amount of beer - when all was said and done we had four completely full coolers of beer heading back to DC

In retrospect maybe i should have gotten more Hill Farmstead but there you have it

Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 11:17:38 am
Got you beat! Driving to a work conference in Montreal in August and heading home via Vermont.

How much Dieu de Ciel, Heady Topper, Hill Farmstead and Lawsons do you think I can fit in a RAV4 with three people in it? Gonne have to put the dog on the roof, like Mitt did.

Quote from: Yada on May 31, 2013, 11:11:11 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 11:02:55 am
My mom brought me 11 Heady Toppers in her luggage last week (free baggage check on Southwest, wish she had brought more!). One of the cans leaked all all over her the inside of the bag. Thought about licking the bag, but didn't.

Heh... already have plans for my summer trip up there. I'm basically checking a whole suitcase full of beer for the flight home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 01:29:08 pm
Thanks, all good to know. I've read somewhat similiar reports elsewhere!

We should be hitting the area on a Thursday morning, so a noon stop at HF when the open, then stop at Alchemist, then Prohibition Pig for a late lunch, then Ben and Jerry's, then Warren Store for Lawsons (they get deliveries on Thurs, wonder how soon after I need to be there?), then drive to Burlington, have dinner and stay at hotel. Then Friday to Winooski Beverage for Lawson's (they get their delivery Friday) if we didn't get any or didn't have a chance to go to Warren Store.

Might also go to Magic Hat when in Burlington for the hell of it, but it's not a priority. Been there many years ago already.

My brother was up there in beginning of May, but they only made it to the Alchemist, Ben and Jerry's, and WArren Store (no Lawson's that day).

Quote from: brennser on May 31, 2013, 01:00:17 pm
We had a Honda Fit and it was low riding by the end of the weekend - RAV 4 should be able to take a bit more weight

we picked up 2 cases of Heady each

Lawsons was hard to find - there were beer geeks stalking the places (there are only 2 or 3) that had it so we had to settle for 2 bottles of Chinookered each

Frankly Hill Farmstead is a shitshow - the beer is good and I guess they are so popular they don't really have to give a shit but I would time your arrival at the brewery very very carefully, i.e. close to when it opens on a weekday because if there are more than 30 people ahead of you in line plan on waiting 2-3 hours for growlers/bottles - why I hear you say? Well i'm really not sure but everyone is buying the 5 growler limit plus bottles plus stemware, it takes (and I am not exagerrating here) literally 5 minutes to fill a growler - they have their taps on the lowest pressure setting. WHen all was said and done i ended up with a full growler of Abner, and 750s of Ephraim, What Is Enlightenment and Grassroots Legitimacy IPA plus 3 bottles of Arthur and 2 bottles of Grassroots Brother Soigne which were the only bottles available.

Then my buddy got the same amount of beer - when all was said and done we had four completely full coolers of beer heading back to DC

In retrospect maybe i should have gotten more Hill Farmstead but there you have it

Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 11:17:38 am
Got you beat! Driving to a work conference in Montreal in August and heading home via Vermont.

How much Dieu de Ciel, Heady Topper, Hill Farmstead and Lawsons do you think I can fit in a RAV4 with three people in it? Gonne have to put the dog on the roof, like Mitt did.

Quote from: Yada on May 31, 2013, 11:11:11 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 11:02:55 am
My mom brought me 11 Heady Toppers in her luggage last week (free baggage check on Southwest, wish she had brought more!). One of the cans leaked all all over her the inside of the bag. Thought about licking the bag, but didn't.

Heh... already have plans for my summer trip up there. I'm basically checking a whole suitcase full of beer for the flight home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 01:46:17 pm
Has anybody had anything by Pretty Things?


My friend was recently up in Boston and brought me back a couple of bottles by them. He also tried some stuff by Jack's Abbey.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 31, 2013, 03:05:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 01:46:17 pm
Has anybody had anything by Pretty Things?


My friend was recently up in Boston and brought me back a couple of bottles by them. He also tried some stuff by Jack's Abbey.
I have and its not great, at least the ones I've tried.

Jacks Abbey is very good although I've only had Hoponius Union
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 31, 2013, 03:25:03 pm
Other Vermont trip tips

Waterbury is great and we loved ProPig - interestingly not a lot of love for ProPig in the area - several people slammed it to us but we thought both food and service (and beer obviously) was excellent.

Blackback and The Resevoir also excellent beer spots - we liked the vibe at Blackback

In Burlington we ate at The Farnhouse Tap and Grill - its pretty highly rated but I thought it was just ok - plus the HF Edward I had there did not taste as good as several other at various places over the weekend.

We finished up the night at American Flatbread who have their own brewing outfit called Zero Gravity - had an excellent IPA on cask called TLA

Everyone in Burlington raves about Penny Cluse for breakfast - again I thought it was merely "ok"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 31, 2013, 05:46:47 pm
i havent posted my beer purchases in a while.  ive been kinda lazy on it actually, meaning ive been buying the same beers and not expanding.  seeing new labels, new names, new what is that and should i even bother to try it.  have i lost the zest to drink fine beer by laying around only caring about three or so breweries.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 31, 2013, 06:53:50 pm
i had a poker night on wednesday at a friend's place who had a RIDICULOUS scotch collection.  he must have had at least 40 bottles, all fine stuff, all in a dedicated glass display case (we called it "the temple"). 

he also had a nice collection of belgian beers in the fridge.  over the course of the evening i had a chimay blue, delirium tremens, a duvel and a young's double chocolat stout which was damn fine too.  nothing earth shattering but certainly made for a nice evening of cards and classic belgian beers.  i had a few sips of scotch but every time my glass was empty i opted for a beer.  i suppose it was something of a waste because i'll likely never have access to such a collection again (at least not until i go back there, or back to brennser's) but my preferences are pretty clear.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 01, 2013, 02:51:43 pm
Surprise! At MD stores!
Raging Bitch in 12 packs! (http://flyingdogales.com/landing-pages/bitch12/)
5/31
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 01, 2013, 03:07:20 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 01, 2013, 02:08:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 11:59:03 pm
Because they make better beer in Vermont than they do in Germany.

Quote from: atomicfront on May 31, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
Quote from: Yada link=topic=11001.msg362359#
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No direct flights out of BWI to Burlington.  :'(
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Why would anyone want to fly to Burlington, Vermont?  I actually was there after hiking to the state highpoints in New Hampshire and Vermont. 

are you on drugs?

in the interest of showing some forum discipline, i'm moving this out of "Dropping like Flies"...

VT > DE for beers is fact, certainly for the vast majority of craft beer lovers.  beer in germany has been taken over by the big guys.  sure, spaten is much better than bud/miller/coors - but it's no where near the quality of the craft beer coming out of VT.  the Alchemist, Hill Farmstead and Lawsons blow out anything from Germany.

i have a buddy who just came back from a 2 year secondment in Bavaria, and he told me he could get better german beer here in the states than he could over there.  other than Bamburg he said germany was disappointing for beer.  dopplebock is available only once a year - because that's the way it's always been done.  eff that.  if i want a dopplebock, gimme a goddamn dopplebock.  i should not have to check my calendar.  even Oktoberfest was only so-so - great party but mediocre drinking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 01, 2013, 08:13:54 pm
If you really think there its more good beer coming out of Vermont than Germany your
 opinions on beer are meaningless to me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 01, 2013, 08:41:21 pm
There may be more GOOD beer coming out of Germany, but there's more GREAT beer coming out of Vermont.

Actually, it's not coming out of Vermont, because the three best best brewers there don't ship beyond a 50 mile radius. And they don't need to, because people are driving or flying in and bringing it home with them.

But you wouldn't know anything about that.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 01, 2013, 08:13:54 pm
If you really think there its more good beer coming out of Vermont than Germany your
 opinions on beer are meaningless to me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TEM on June 01, 2013, 09:14:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 01, 2013, 08:41:21 pm
Actually, it's not coming out of Vermont, because the three best best brewers there don't ship beyond a 50 mile radius. And they don't need to, because people are driving or flying in and bringing it home with them.

But you wouldn't know anything about that.

Gag.  You sound like the kind of person who drinks beer alone at a bar with a notebook.  Can you post your latest 500-word review from Beeradvocate.com?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 01, 2013, 10:14:06 pm
You sound like someone who's never had the pleasure of drinking a Hill Farmstead beer.

Quote from: TEM on June 01, 2013, 09:14:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 01, 2013, 08:41:21 pm
Actually, it's not coming out of Vermont, because the three best best brewers there don't ship beyond a 50 mile radius. And they don't need to, because people are driving or flying in and bringing it home with them.

But you wouldn't know anything about that.

Gag.  You sound like the kind of person who drinks beer alone at a bar with a notebook.  Can you post your latest 500-word review from Beeradvocate.com?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 09:11:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 01, 2013, 08:41:21 pm
There may be more GOOD beer coming out of Germany, but there's more GREAT beer coming out of Vermont.

Actually, it's not coming out of Vermont, because the three best best brewers there don't ship beyond a 50 mile radius. And they don't need to, because people are driving or flying in and bringing it home with them.

But you wouldn't know anything about that.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 01, 2013, 08:13:54 pm
If you really think there its more good beer coming out of Vermont than Germany your
 opinions on beer are meaningless to me.

Yeah I am sure that the ten people who fly or drive int Vermont for their beer is the reason they don't sell outside a 50 miles area.  And I am sure no one flies to Munich to drink Hofbrau so that is the reason they have to ship their beer all over the world. Your posts on beer are getting more idiotic and more idiotic. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 03, 2013, 10:49:52 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 01, 2013, 08:13:54 pm
If you really think there its more good beer coming out of Vermont than Germany your
 opinions on beer are meaningless to me.

we have a clear divergence of tastes here, so we're not going to agree.  you seem to like lagers, only - that goes a long way in explaining why you like german beer.  for me, most lagers are too flavorless.  take a pils and compare it to a stout, a belgian dubbel or an IPA - the pils is downright boring.  you're free to like less flavorful beer, but you're in the minority.  the growth in craft beer is coming from hoppy pale ales, imperial stouts, belgian witbiers, etc.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 09:11:19 am
Yeah I am sure that the ten people who fly or drive int Vermont for their beer is the reason they don't sell outside a 50 miles area.  And I am sure no one flies to Munich to drink Hofbrau so that is the reason they have to ship their beer all over the world. Your posts on beer are getting more idiotic and more idiotic. 

and your posts are getting more and more ignorant.  you really should consider shutting up about things you don't know.  check out this tweet (https://twitter.com/alchemistbeer/status/339098352329322497) from The Alchemist Brewery: they sold every drop they canned on the same day it was canned., AKA none of it made it beyond the brewery because people were lining up to buy it on site.  i realize you're not familiar with the ins and outs of craft beer, so trust me when i tell you that this fact is beyond impressive.  why ship across the country when locals and tourists will come to you?  just ask the disappointed folks in boston (http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/blogs/99bottles/2013/05/heady_topper_to_boston_maybe_n.html).

and thank you for putting up Hofbrau as your example of standard bearer for german beer.  talk about frikken pedestrian.  it's an OK munich helles at best.  to put it up against vermont craft beer - pfffff...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:18:12 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 03, 2013, 10:49:52 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 01, 2013, 08:13:54 pm
If you really think there its more good beer coming out of Vermont than Germany your
 opinions on beer are meaningless to me.

we have a clear divergence of tastes here, so we're not going to agree.  you seem to like lagers, only - that goes a long way in explaining why you like german beer.  for me, most lagers are too flavorless.  take a pils and compare it to a stout, a belgian dubbel or an IPA - the pils is downright boring.  you're free to like less flavorful beer, but you're in the minority.  the growth in craft beer is coming from hoppy pale ales, imperial stouts, belgian witbiers, etc.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 09:11:19 am
Yeah I am sure that the ten people who fly or drive int Vermont for their beer is the reason they don't sell outside a 50 miles area.  And I am sure no one flies to Munich to drink Hofbrau so that is the reason they have to ship their beer all over the world. Your posts on beer are getting more idiotic and more idiotic. 

and your posts are getting more and more ignorant.  you really should consider shutting up about things you don't know.  check out this tweet (https://twitter.com/alchemistbeer/status/339098352329322497) from The Alchemist Brewery: they sold every drop they canned on the same day it was canned., AKA none of it made it beyond the brewery because people were lining up to buy it on site.  i realize you're not familiar with the ins and outs of craft beer, so trust me when i tell you that this fact is beyond impressive.  why ship across the country when locals and tourists will come to you?  just ask the disappointed folks in boston (http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/blogs/99bottles/2013/05/heady_topper_to_boston_maybe_n.html).

and thank you for putting up Hofbrau as your example of standard bearer for german beer.  talk about frikken pedestrian.  it's an OK munich helles at best.  to put it up against vermont craft beer - pfffff...

You are an idiot.  I am sure they don't sell in a year what a typical munich brewery sells in a day.  Your posts are what are idiotic. I have been to Vermont.  There aren't many people there.   Yeah they sell out what they make because they make next to nothing.  Obviously.  Canned beer?  Really?  You buy canned beer? Obviously it will taste like crap. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:21:06 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 03, 2013, 10:49:52 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 01, 2013, 08:13:54 pm
If you really think there its more good beer coming out of Vermont than Germany your
 opinions on beer are meaningless to me.

we have a clear divergence of tastes here, so we're not going to agree.  you seem to like lagers, only - that goes a long way in explaining why you like german beer.  for me, most lagers are too flavorless.  take a pils and compare it to a stout, a belgian dubbel or an IPA - the pils is downright boring.  you're free to like less flavorful beer, but you're in the minority.  the growth in craft beer is coming from hoppy pale ales, imperial stouts, belgian witbiers, etc.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 09:11:19 am
Yeah I am sure that the ten people who fly or drive int Vermont for their beer is the reason they don't sell outside a 50 miles area.  And I am sure no one flies to Munich to drink Hofbrau so that is the reason they have to ship their beer all over the world. Your posts on beer are getting more idiotic and more idiotic. 

and your posts are getting more and more ignorant.  you really should consider shutting up about things you don't know.  check out this tweet (https://twitter.com/alchemistbeer/status/339098352329322497) from The Alchemist Brewery: they sold every drop they canned on the same day it was canned., AKA none of it made it beyond the brewery because people were lining up to buy it on site.  i realize you're not familiar with the ins and outs of craft beer, so trust me when i tell you that this fact is beyond impressive.  why ship across the country when locals and tourists will come to you?  just ask the disappointed folks in boston (http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/blogs/99bottles/2013/05/heady_topper_to_boston_maybe_n.html).

and thank you for putting up Hofbrau as your example of standard bearer for german beer.  talk about frikken pedestrian.  it's an OK munich helles at best.  to put it up against vermont craft beer - pfffff...

Also I don't like Lagers exclusively.  I drank Birdhouse at Brewers art on Saturday.  Not a lager sorry.  To say you don't like lagers is idiotic once again because you can make a ton of different tasting lager beers.  To say you don't like lagers you might as well say you don't like beer.  Continue to drink your wine coolers.  Drive up to Vermont to get them.  I am sorry but anyone would tell you are an idiot if you think more people are going to Vermont for good beer than Germany.  Even the people in Vermont making the beer that you are dumb enough to wait in line to pay them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:22:22 am
Top 10 US beer vacation destinations.

http://www.vacationrentals.com/media/top-10-beer-vacations.htm

The fact that San Diego is not included on such a list is criminal. The fact that Vermont is is unsurprising.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 11:28:16 am
that list is stupid. the inclusion of Missoula is weird. i've been there, and been to both places (big sky and kettle house), and there's nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:35:35 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:22:22 am
Top 10 US beer vacation destinations.

http://www.vacationrentals.com/media/top-10-beer-vacations.htm

The fact that San Diego is not included on such a list is criminal. The fact that Vermont is is unsurprising.

I bet most people go to Vermont go for skiing.  I bet more people go to the Ben and Jerry Factory Tour than tour any brewery you mentioned in VT.  The only brewery in VT that people actually buy  beer from is Magic Hat.  And you didn't even mention them.  Of course not as they actually sell beer.

I am not going to Germany as a beer vacation.  That actually seems pretty lame.  I will be drinking beer while I am there.  I will also be drinking beer in Austria.  I will have a good time drinking anything that comes my way.  As almost any beer that is made with just Hops, Malt, Yeast and water is going to be good.  Pretty hard to mess that up.  Beer is messed up by either adding corn syrup solids and rice and then adding water to it after it has finished brewing like Bud Light or Coors Light.  Or adding a bunch of fruit and sugar to it like Dogfish Head aprihop. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:40:37 am
I bet more people visit the Coors plant in Colorado than New Belgium, Oskar Blues, Great Divide, and Avery, all of which are in Colorado as well.

Does that make Coors the best brewery in Colorado?


You asked why would anyone want to fly to Burlington, VT. I answered because they make better beer in Vermont than Germany. Which is true imo and in the opinion of the vast majority of passionate American beer geeks (as opposed to the more casual beer drinker who probably hasn't heard of or tried Heady Topper, Hill Farmstead, or Lawson's).

Do more people fly to Vermont for the beer than Germany for the beer? Of course not.

 One is a tiny, isolated state in a country full of great states to visit. Still people (way more than 10, and many are DRIVING, so they can take the beer back by the caseload) do go there specfically for the beer.

The other is a major country that once almost took over the world, but thankfully didn't.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:21:06 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 03, 2013, 10:49:52 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 01, 2013, 08:13:54 pm
If you really think there its more good beer coming out of Vermont than Germany your
 opinions on beer are meaningless to me.

we have a clear divergence of tastes here, so we're not going to agree.  you seem to like lagers, only - that goes a long way in explaining why you like german beer.  for me, most lagers are too flavorless.  take a pils and compare it to a stout, a belgian dubbel or an IPA - the pils is downright boring.  you're free to like less flavorful beer, but you're in the minority.  the growth in craft beer is coming from hoppy pale ales, imperial stouts, belgian witbiers, etc.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 09:11:19 am
Yeah I am sure that the ten people who fly or drive int Vermont for their beer is the reason they don't sell outside a 50 miles area.  And I am sure no one flies to Munich to drink Hofbrau so that is the reason they have to ship their beer all over the world. Your posts on beer are getting more idiotic and more idiotic. 

and your posts are getting more and more ignorant.  you really should consider shutting up about things you don't know.  check out this tweet (https://twitter.com/alchemistbeer/status/339098352329322497) from The Alchemist Brewery: they sold every drop they canned on the same day it was canned., AKA none of it made it beyond the brewery because people were lining up to buy it on site.  i realize you're not familiar with the ins and outs of craft beer, so trust me when i tell you that this fact is beyond impressive.  why ship across the country when locals and tourists will come to you?  just ask the disappointed folks in boston (http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/blogs/99bottles/2013/05/heady_topper_to_boston_maybe_n.html).

and thank you for putting up Hofbrau as your example of standard bearer for german beer.  talk about frikken pedestrian.  it's an OK munich helles at best.  to put it up against vermont craft beer - pfffff...

Also I don't like Lagers exclusively.  I drank Birdhouse at Brewers art on Saturday.  Not a lager sorry.  To say you don't like lagers is idiotic once again because you can make a ton of different tasting lager beers.  To say you don't like lagers you might as well say you don't like beer.  Continue to drink your wine coolers.  Drive up to Vermont to get them.  I am sorry but anyone would tell you are an idiot if you think more people are going to Vermont for good beer than Germany.  Even the people in Vermont making the beer that you are dumb enough to wait in line to pay them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:45:46 am

You were an azz. Instead of just saying that Vermont has great beer you made a ridiculous statement that people go there because the Beer is better than Germany.  Which is ridiculous and trolling.  You could have said you went their for the beer and breweries you had and how great the beer was that you tasted instead you start a big fight and seem like a pretentious idiot.  To me I wouldn't go back to Vermont.  As I am not a skier and the hiking is so much better in New Hampshire.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:47:05 am
They must have put the Magic Hat haul on the roof.


(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxqy4zkwX-Jy1mFWn5vCXriyT2mUca4NTMventuouKuFqCzi7OOKcNrWF9pg)
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:35:35 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:22:22 am
Top 10 US beer vacation destinations.

http://www.vacationrentals.com/media/top-10-beer-vacations.htm

The fact that San Diego is not included on such a list is criminal. The fact that Vermont is is unsurprising.

I bet most people go to Vermont go for skiing.  I bet more people go to the Ben and Jerry Factory Tour than tour any brewery you mentioned in VT.  The only brewery in VT that people actually buy  beer from is Magic Hat.  And you didn't even mention them.  Of course not as they actually sell beer.

I am not going to Germany as a beer vacation.  That actually seems pretty lame.  I will be drinking beer while I am there.  I will also be drinking beer in Austria.  I will have a good time drinking anything that comes my way.  As almost any beer that is made with just Hops, Malt, Yeast and water is going to be good.  Pretty hard to mess that up.  Beer is messed up by either adding corn syrup solids and rice and then adding water to it after it has finished brewing like Bud Light or Coors Light.  Or adding a bunch of fruit and sugar to it like Dogfish Head aprihop. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:55:53 am
And you asked the ridiculous question as to why anyone would fly to Burlington. Which seems pretty idiotic.

If beer were the only criteria, I'd choose t fly to Burlington over Germany, in a heartbeat. As would many, many beer geeks.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:45:46 am

You were an azz. Instead of just saying that Vermont has great beer you made a ridiculous statement that people go there because the Beer is better than Germany.  Which is ridiculous and trolling.  You could have said you went their for the beer and breweries you had and how great the beer was that you tasted instead you start a big fight and seem like a pretentious idiot.  To me I wouldn't go back to Vermont.  As I am not a skier and the hiking is so much better in New Hampshire.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 12:12:07 pm
There's always a couple of head scratchers on those kinds of lists.

Boston is another one, IMO. Oh wait, alot of people drink Sam Adams and Harpoon, so they must be grat beers and hence Boston must be a great beer destination.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 11:28:16 am
that list is stupid. the inclusion of Missoula is weird. i've been there, and been to both places (big sky and kettle house), and there's nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 12:24:55 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:47:05 am
They must have put the Magic Hat haul on the roof.


(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxqy4zkwX-Jy1mFWn5vCXriyT2mUca4NTMventuouKuFqCzi7OOKcNrWF9pg)
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:35:35 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:22:22 am
Top 10 US beer vacation destinations.

http://www.vacationrentals.com/media/top-10-beer-vacations.htm

The fact that San Diego is not included on such a list is criminal. The fact that Vermont is is unsurprising.

I bet most people go to Vermont go for skiing.  I bet more people go to the Ben and Jerry Factory Tour than tour any brewery you mentioned in VT.  The only brewery in VT that people actually buy  beer from is Magic Hat.  And you didn't even mention them.  Of course not as they actually sell beer.

I am not going to Germany as a beer vacation.  That actually seems pretty lame.  I will be drinking beer while I am there.  I will also be drinking beer in Austria.  I will have a good time drinking anything that comes my way.  As almost any beer that is made with just Hops, Malt, Yeast and water is going to be good.  Pretty hard to mess that up.  Beer is messed up by either adding corn syrup solids and rice and then adding water to it after it has finished brewing like Bud Light or Coors Light.  Or adding a bunch of fruit and sugar to it like Dogfish Head aprihop. 


I can't wait until you get pulled over with all that beer in you car.  So you have a small SUV?  Did you say RAV-4?  I never understood the purpose of a small SUV.  All the drawbacks of an SUV with none of the benefits.   RAV-4's are tiny. I could barely get my legs to fit in the loaner one I had a few years back.  Why not just get a station wagon.  you would have more space and it would handle better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 12:31:22 pm
Not my car. Just a random picture off of the internet. One of a humdred leaving the Alchemist with the five case per person limit, on a daily basis.

Why would someone be pulled over for having beer in their car?  You truly are a loon!

My wife likes the RAV4. That's a good enough reason for me. I'm sure she's prefer it over a station wagon because she likes the feeling of being high off the ground when she's driving.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 12:24:55 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:47:05 am
They must have put the Magic Hat haul on the roof.


(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxqy4zkwX-Jy1mFWn5vCXriyT2mUca4NTMventuouKuFqCzi7OOKcNrWF9pg)
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:35:35 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 11:22:22 am
Top 10 US beer vacation destinations.

http://www.vacationrentals.com/media/top-10-beer-vacations.htm

The fact that San Diego is not included on such a list is criminal. The fact that Vermont is is unsurprising.

I bet most people go to Vermont go for skiing.  I bet more people go to the Ben and Jerry Factory Tour than tour any brewery you mentioned in VT.  The only brewery in VT that people actually buy  beer from is Magic Hat.  And you didn't even mention them.  Of course not as they actually sell beer.

I am not going to Germany as a beer vacation.  That actually seems pretty lame.  I will be drinking beer while I am there.  I will also be drinking beer in Austria.  I will have a good time drinking anything that comes my way.  As almost any beer that is made with just Hops, Malt, Yeast and water is going to be good.  Pretty hard to mess that up.  Beer is messed up by either adding corn syrup solids and rice and then adding water to it after it has finished brewing like Bud Light or Coors Light.  Or adding a bunch of fruit and sugar to it like Dogfish Head aprihop. 


I can't wait until you get pulled over with all that beer in you car.  So you have a small SUV?  Did you say RAV-4?  I never understood the purpose of a small SUV.  All the drawbacks of an SUV with none of the benefits.   RAV-4's are tiny. I could barely get my legs to fit in the loaner one I had a few years back.  Why not just get a station wagon.  you would have more space and it would handle better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 12:45:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 12:12:07 pm
There's always a couple of head scratchers on those kinds of lists.

Boston is another one, IMO. Oh wait, alot of people drink Sam Adams and Harpoon, so they must be grat beers and hence Boston must be a great beer destination.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 11:28:16 am
that list is stupid. the inclusion of Missoula is weird. i've been there, and been to both places (big sky and kettle house), and there's nothing to write home about.

yeah, also weird. harpoon has a nice little beer bar, and sam adams is somewhat historic as far microbrews go, but not much else to see otherwise.  although the whole state of Massachusetts is doing really wonderful things with beer.

i should give a shout out to Penguin Cafe in Bringham Circle though.  that bar may have bankrupted me when i turned 21, but it was what got me into craft beer. and bukowski's is kind of incredible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 12:46:53 pm

Why would anyone get pulled over for having drugs in their car?  You are the loon. You are saying that 100's of people leave the brewery with 5 cases each day as somehow that is supposed to impress me yet you are not impressed by the big trucks full of beer from Magic Hat each day.  You make no sense at all.  More people like Magic Hat than like whatever canned beer place you are spouting off about.  Magic Hat isn't a major brewery.  So the beer geeks must be few and far between that like Alchemist.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 12:50:43 pm
Funny Alchemist is right next door to Ben and Jerrys.  All the pudgy beer geeks probably were going to Ben and Jerry's for a tour and found out about the brewery after stuffing themselves with ice cream.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 12:52:32 pm
In all honesty, I haven't been to Boston in nearly 20 years. And the last time I was there, I was more interested in the girl I was visiting than I was drinking beer.

But my beer loving buddy just returned from trip there with some recommendations in tow, and I AM actually going for work next year, so have been doing some advance reading on it.



Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 12:45:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 12:12:07 pm
There's always a couple of head scratchers on those kinds of lists.

Boston is another one, IMO. Oh wait, alot of people drink Sam Adams and Harpoon, so they must be grat beers and hence Boston must be a great beer destination.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 11:28:16 am
that list is stupid. the inclusion of Missoula is weird. i've been there, and been to both places (big sky and kettle house), and there's nothing to write home about.

yeah, also weird. harpoon has a nice little beer bar, and sam adams is somewhat historic as far microbrews go, but not much else to see otherwise.  although the whole state of Massachusetts is doing really wonderful things with beer.

i should give a shout out to Penguin Cafe in Bringham Circle though.  that bar may have bankrupted me when i turned 21, but it was what got me into craft beer. and bukowski's is kind of incredible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 12:54:51 pm
Before I was into beer, I drove by the sign which said "The Alchemist Cannery" having no idea what it was as I made my way to Ben and Jerry's.

Now I wouldn't even bother with Ben and Jerry's if I didn't have a kid.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 12:50:43 pm
Funny Alchemist is right next door to Ben and Jerrys.  All the pudgy beer geeks probably were going to Ben and Jerry's for a tour and found out about the brewery after stuffing themselves with ice cream.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 12:58:51 pm
Cambridge Brewing Company is incredible. criminal omission - they have a solera beer that is available from time to time, and is perhaps the best sour beer i've ever had. 

also worth noting: http://www.nightshiftbrewing.com/

check out there sour futures. 

but iirc, JF, you're not the biggest sour beer fan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 01:03:09 pm
I don't drink sours on a regular basis, but if someone makes top notch ones, I'm not averse to trying them in the name of beer tourism!

I'll have remember to ask you about all this again this time next year, since the trip isn't until 8/2014.

And I was being sarcastic about Sam Adams and Harpoon. Obviously a number of good (likely better) things going on than just them, particularly outside of Boston proper. A top 10 beer destination though? Doubt it. I'll see.


Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 12:58:51 pm
Cambridge Brewing Company is incredible. criminal omission - they have a solera beer that is available from time to time, and is perhaps the best sour beer i've ever had. 

also worth noting: http://www.nightshiftbrewing.com/

check out there sour futures. 

but iirc, JF, you're not the biggest sour beer fan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2013, 01:20:25 pm
Is atomicfront the world's biggest troll, douche, or ignorant?

I can't seem to figure it out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 03, 2013, 01:33:08 pm
atomicfront is so obviously a past forumer . . . who was either banned or asked to leave, and now hates what this places stands for.  i have always thought this, and i will never change. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 03, 2013, 01:40:58 pm
notice . . . who never posts anymore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 01:56:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 03, 2013, 01:20:25 pm
Is atomicfront the world's biggest troll, douche, or ignorant?

I can't seem to figure it out.
Actually James Ford is the one that has been trolling and ignorant.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 01:56:34 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 03, 2013, 01:33:08 pm
atomicfront is so obviously a past forumer . . . who was either banned or asked to leave, and now hates what this places stands for.  i have always thought this, and i will never change. 

You are ignorant as well.  I had this account for a long time.  Check when I joined. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:15:18 pm
atomicfront makes some incredibly stupid posts, everyone lavishes him with attention, wash, rinse, repeat
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:20:42 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:15:18 pm
atomicfront makes some incredibly stupid posts, everyone lavishes him with attention, wash, rinse, repeat

Once again it was James Ford that made the incredibly stupid posts.  He might want the attention, I am not sure or he might just be a bitter old man.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:22:45 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:20:42 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:15:18 pm
atomicfront makes some incredibly stupid posts, everyone lavishes him with attention, wash, rinse, repeat

Once again it was James Ford that made the incredibly stupid posts.  He might want the attention, I am not sure or he might just be a bitter old man.

::yawn:: This is D+ trolling at best yet somehow your schtick works on these fools.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on June 03, 2013, 02:28:48 pm
I think all you fellas need to get together and chill over a beer or sumpin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:49:53 pm
Quote from: grateful on June 03, 2013, 02:28:48 pm
I think all you fellas need to get together and chill over a beer or sumpin.

I am sure they would spend the entire time telling me how stupid a beer I selected to drink. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:52:32 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:22:45 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:20:42 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:15:18 pm
atomicfront makes some incredibly stupid posts, everyone lavishes him with attention, wash, rinse, repeat

Once again it was James Ford that made the incredibly stupid posts.  He might want the attention, I am not sure or he might just be a bitter old man.

::yawn:: This is D+ trolling at best yet somehow your schtick works on these fools.

I am trolling how?  Please tell me again fat skippy?  I mentioned how I was going to Munich and James Ford told me I was stupid for doing so as the beer is better in Vermont.  I guess I shouldn't have shared my Munich trip to the forum.  Sorry if that is trolling. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 02:58:46 pm
More like you're making shit up.

I simply said/meant I would fly to Burlington because (three particular breweries in) Vermont make better beer than any brewery in Germany.

That's not trolling, that's simply stating my opinion.

Having been to BOTH Munich and Vermont last year, I think I'm entitled to have one.

Munich's beer was enjoyable, but I'd never go back simply for the beer. Vermont, I would.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:52:32 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:22:45 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:20:42 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:15:18 pm
atomicfront makes some incredibly stupid posts, everyone lavishes him with attention, wash, rinse, repeat

Once again it was James Ford that made the incredibly stupid posts.  He might want the attention, I am not sure or he might just be a bitter old man.

::yawn:: This is D+ trolling at best yet somehow your schtick works on these fools.

I am trolling how?  Please tell me again fat skippy?  I mentioned how I was going to Munich and James Ford told me I was stupid for doing so as the beer is better in Vermont.  I guess I shouldn't have shared my Munich trip to the forum.  Sorry if that is trolling. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 03:16:22 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 02:58:46 pm
More like you're making shit up.

I simply said/meant I would fly to Burlington because (three particular breweries in) Vermont make better beer than any brewery in Germany.

That's not trolling, that's simply stating my opinion.

Having been to BOTH Munich and Vermont last year, I think I'm entitled to have one.

Munich's beer was enjoyable, but I'd never go back simply for the beer. Vermont, I would.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:52:32 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:22:45 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:20:42 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:15:18 pm
atomicfront makes some incredibly stupid posts, everyone lavishes him with attention, wash, rinse, repeat

Once again it was James Ford that made the incredibly stupid posts.  He might want the attention, I am not sure or he might just be a bitter old man.

::yawn:: This is D+ trolling at best yet somehow your schtick works on these fools.

I am trolling how?  Please tell me again fat skippy?  I mentioned how I was going to Munich and James Ford told me I was stupid for doing so as the beer is better in Vermont.  I guess I shouldn't have shared my Munich trip to the forum.  Sorry if that is trolling. 

No you mentioned Germany as you knew I was going there and I asked you if you knew of any good brewery tours.  You certainly haven't been to every brewery in Germany.  So it isn't a valid opinion.  If you weren't trolling me you would have just mentioned their were great breweries in Vermont.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: chaz on June 03, 2013, 03:28:50 pm
if this forum had a poll feature we could settle this once and for all.

now please take this to the Commentary on The Beer Thread Thread.

ps atomic wins troll of the century in a landslide.  rhett trolls with humor and style
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 04:04:22 pm
Sorry to put this thread back on the tracks, but I'm very much looking forward to trading OTWOA for Heady Topper with my buddy in upstate NY in a few weeks. My only regret is that I wish I bought more OTWOA. Stupid daycare.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2013, 04:12:35 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 04:04:22 pm
Sorry to put this thread back on the tracks, but I'm very much looking forward to trading OTWOA for Heady Topper with my buddy in upstate NY in a few weeks. My only regret is that I wish I bought more OTWOA. Stupid daycare.

I've said it once and I'll say it again... it's pretty exciting to have Wings coming out of a DC brewery. It's pretty damn delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 04:17:24 pm
You disparaged Burlington after Brennser mentioned his Vermont beer haul, and Yada and I mentioned out upcoming trips there and the beer we're bringing back. So I was just meeting your "trolling" with a "troll" of my own. If you want to call it that.

I've had multiple style of beer from Ayinger, Andescher, Schneider, Weistephaner (all very good), Paulaner, Augustiner (good), Hofbrau, Spaten (decent). There's only six majoy breweries in Munich, and a handful on the outskirts. So I think I've had a good sampling to have a valid opinion.

That is, on Munich breweries. And I've had the best of Bamberg (Schlenkerla). On the rest of Germany, I'm pretty ignorant. But those are the two cities people talk about when they talk about German beer, anyway.

You'll notice I didn't use the word "excellent". I reserve that word from Hill FArmstead, The Alchemist, and Lawson's in Vermont. Not Magic Hat.



Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 03:16:22 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 02:58:46 pm
More like you're making shit up.

I simply said/meant I would fly to Burlington because (three particular breweries in) Vermont make better beer than any brewery in Germany.

That's not trolling, that's simply stating my opinion.

Having been to BOTH Munich and Vermont last year, I think I'm entitled to have one.

Munich's beer was enjoyable, but I'd never go back simply for the beer. Vermont, I would.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:52:32 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:22:45 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:20:42 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:15:18 pm
atomicfront makes some incredibly stupid posts, everyone lavishes him with attention, wash, rinse, repeat

Once again it was James Ford that made the incredibly stupid posts.  He might want the attention, I am not sure or he might just be a bitter old man.

::yawn:: This is D+ trolling at best yet somehow your schtick works on these fools.

I am trolling how?  Please tell me again fat skippy?  I mentioned how I was going to Munich and James Ford told me I was stupid for doing so as the beer is better in Vermont.  I guess I shouldn't have shared my Munich trip to the forum.  Sorry if that is trolling. 

No you mentioned Germany as you knew I was going there and I asked you if you knew of any good brewery tours.  You certainly haven't been to every brewery in Germany.  So it isn't a valid opinion.  If you weren't trolling me you would have just mentioned their were great breweries in Vermont.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2013, 04:37:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 04:17:24 pm
You disparaged Burlington after Brennser mentioned his Vermont beer haul, and Yada and I mentioned out upcoming trips there and the beer we're bringing back. So I was just meeting your "trolling" with a "troll" of my own. If you want to call it that.

I've had multiple style of beer from Ayinger, Andescher, Schneider, Weistephaner (all very good), Paulaner, Augustiner (good), Hofbrau, Spaten (decent). There's only six majoy breweries in Munich, and a handful on the outskirts. So I think I've had a good sampling to have a valid opinion.

That is, on Munich breweries. And I've had the best of Bamberg (Schlenkerla). On the rest of Germany, I'm pretty ignorant. But those are the two cities people talk about when they talk about German beer, anyway.

You'll notice I didn't use the word "excellent". I reserve that word from Hill FArmstead, The Alchemist, and Lawson's in Vermont. Not Magic Hat.



Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 03:16:22 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 02:58:46 pm
More like you're making shit up.

I simply said/meant I would fly to Burlington because (three particular breweries in) Vermont make better beer than any brewery in Germany.

That's not trolling, that's simply stating my opinion.

Having been to BOTH Munich and Vermont last year, I think I'm entitled to have one.

Munich's beer was enjoyable, but I'd never go back simply for the beer. Vermont, I would.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:52:32 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:22:45 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 02:20:42 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 03, 2013, 02:15:18 pm
atomicfront makes some incredibly stupid posts, everyone lavishes him with attention, wash, rinse, repeat

Once again it was James Ford that made the incredibly stupid posts.  He might want the attention, I am not sure or he might just be a bitter old man.

::yawn:: This is D+ trolling at best yet somehow your schtick works on these fools.

I am trolling how?  Please tell me again fat skippy?  I mentioned how I was going to Munich and James Ford told me I was stupid for doing so as the beer is better in Vermont.  I guess I shouldn't have shared my Munich trip to the forum.  Sorry if that is trolling. 

No you mentioned Germany as you knew I was going there and I asked you if you knew of any good brewery tours.  You certainly haven't been to every brewery in Germany.  So it isn't a valid opinion.  If you weren't trolling me you would have just mentioned their were great breweries in Vermont.

atomicfront prob. loves #9 and Long Trail IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 04:58:59 pm
Actually all I said is "Why would anyone want to fly to Burlington, VT?"  Certainly not disparaging anyone.   It was a legitimate question.  Instead of answering a question you decided to troll.  Like I knew you were a bunch of lunatics who travel to Vermont to pick up a couple of cases of beer.  Next thing you know I will be traveling to Belgium and you will troll that Iowa has better beer.  Or I will be going to France and you will mention the Coq au vin is much superior in Utah and I awfully stupid for visiting France. 

And the sad thing is you probably visited Germany for the beer.  Which I am clearly not doing.


Oh and Magic Hat #9 is a good beer.  Sorry it is too popular for you to like.  You guys clearly only like beer that is popular enough for people to drive 500 miles to wait in line for but not popular enough for people to be able to buy it at their local beer store. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 03, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
a'front, cover you eyes...

ford: regarding your upcoming trip to VT:

Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 01:29:08 pm
We should be hitting the area on a Thursday morning, so a noon stop at HF when the open, then stop at Alchemist, then Prohibition Pig for a late lunch, then Ben and Jerry's, then Warren Store for Lawsons (they get deliveries on Thurs, wonder how soon after I need to be there?), then drive to Burlington, have dinner and stay at hotel. Then Friday to Winooski Beverage for Lawson's (they get their delivery Friday) if we didn't get any or didn't have a chance to go to Warren Store.

you probably already knew this, but i've just discovered that The Alchemist is now canning on mondays, tuesdays and wednesday.  as of last year it was mondays and thursdays but their facebook page says its now m/t/w.  i suspect you can't change your travel plans, just fyi.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: chaz on June 03, 2013, 05:23:47 pm
I don't drink beer anymore, but when i did I tried #9 and thought it was horrible horrible stuff.  I liked a lot of IPA's and really liked everything from that one brewery Ommegang...especailly the saison they had.  I liked Belles...the one with the fish on it I think?  I didn't nerd out on beer to hard.  That is my contribution to this thread. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2013, 05:30:16 pm
Quote from: chaz on June 03, 2013, 05:23:47 pm
I don't drink beer anymore, but when i did I tried #9 and thought it was horrible horrible stuff.  I liked a lot of IPA's and really liked everything from that one brewery Ommegang...especailly the saison they had.  I liked Belles...the one with the fish on it I think?  I didn't nerd out on beer to hard.  That is my contribution to this thread. 

Magic Hat is for people that just discovered there are beers other than Miller, Coors, and Bud. I bet atomicfront loves Blue Moon too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 03, 2013, 05:31:36 pm
to me myself and i (what a good song) i dont mind who atomicfront is.  whether he is past, or present toward future tense, he is actually all right with me.  his comments and contributions . . . yes do so border trolling to a point that i am so tired of that word--trolling.  like douche, it should be done.  he posts, damn you.  he posts more than most on here, and his post are intelligent and processed.  i give him that.  but yes, i do believe that no matter who he is, atomicfront makes impact here.  i think he enjoys to make us mad, because some people do, like ratbastard.  deep down in those fingers you type with, you all know making impact is the point.

oh yeah . . . my beer contribution for the sake of the thread.  drinking deviant dales from oskar blues in a can.  what up with the can beer.  so trendy.  it is good, and it has widespread panic lyrics on the top.  uhmm,   

oh   hell   yeah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 05:45:42 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 03, 2013, 05:30:16 pm
Quote from: chaz on June 03, 2013, 05:23:47 pm
I don't drink beer anymore, but when i did I tried #9 and thought it was horrible horrible stuff.  I liked a lot of IPA's and really liked everything from that one brewery Ommegang...especailly the saison they had.  I liked Belles...the one with the fish on it I think?  I didn't nerd out on beer to hard.  That is my contribution to this thread. 

Magic Hat is for people that just discovered there are beers other than Miller, Coors, and Bud. I bet atomicfront loves Blue Moon too.


I already  mentioned it is not a bad beer and drink it at the ball game from time to time as it is the only non-light beer they bring around if I am too lazy to get up.  I have been drinking quality beer since I was a young lad.  But whatever keep with the stupid posts.  All beer is good.  Even Miller Light gets you a buzz.  I would say there are microbrews that I like less than Miller Light.  Aprihop is awful.  Flying Dog Gonzo Imperial Porter is pretty much undrinkable.  Being a pretentious asshole about things does not make you more worthy.  I have drunk a ton of beers and have always enjoyed trying new beers even before it became trendy.  Making something some sort of a competition who can drink the rarest beer makes it seem like you don't even like beer.   

I think you guys seem pretty sophmoric in terms of beers you like.  Just enjoy beer and food and stop acting like girls who can only drink zima. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 05:49:27 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 03, 2013, 05:31:36 pm
to me myself and i (what a good song) i dont mind who atomicfront is.  whether he is past, or present toward future tense, he is actually all right with me.  his comments and contributions . . . yes do so border trolling to a point that i am so tired of that word--trolling.  like douche, it should be done.  he posts, damn you.  he posts more than most on here, and his post are intelligent and processed.  i give him that.  but yes, i do believe that no matter who he is, atomicfront makes impact here.  i think he enjoys to make us mad, because some people do, like ratbastard.  deep down in those fingers you type with, you all know making impact is the point.

oh yeah . . . my beer contribution for the sake of the thread.  drinking deviant dales from oskar blues in a can.  what up with the can beer.  so trendy.  it is good, and it has widespread panic lyrics on the top.  uhmm,   

oh   hell   yeah.

When I played kickball I drank Oskar Blues Mamas Lil Pils at kickball games all the time as you couldn't drink out of bottles.  Maybe cans are more popular because kickball is more popular.  That Hawian Brewery has all its brews in cans as well.  And Resurection comes in cans but it is probably not the best choice for kickball other than the fact that no one will ever drink your beers.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 05:57:01 pm
I thought I would be drinking Magic Hat coming up at the Newport Folk Festival but it appears they have changed their beer vendor to Newport Storm.   Hopefully they will have their blueberry beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 03, 2013, 05:57:42 pm
people still play kickball?  interesting.  when i was in middle school, which was a serious serious rural middle school out there in the twilight zone of boony solitude . . . we played what was called crab kickball.  we layed our back on the square boards on wheels, then walked like crabs around the gym kicking a ball, sort of like kickball mixed with soccer.  i love memories, more than beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 03, 2013, 06:07:56 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:18:12 am
I am sure they don't sell in a year what a typical munich brewery sells in a day. 

you are correct, and that's why the VT beer will be better: smaller batches.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:18:12 am
Canned beer?  Really?  You buy canned beer? Obviously it will taste like crap. 

cans are an excellent packaging for beer.  they are superior to bottles in several ways: more airtight (caps leak), 100% protection from light (glass let light through, even brown bottles), etc. 

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:21:06 am
I am sorry but anyone would tell you are an idiot if you think more people are going to Vermont for good beer than Germany. 

no one said that.  we said that there is better beer in Vermont than in Germany.  as with all things craft it's quality not quantity.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:21:06 am
Even the people in Vermont making the beer that you are dumb enough to wait in line to pay them.

that was written good.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:35:35 am
As almost any beer that is made with just Hops, Malt, Yeast and water is going to be good.  Pretty hard to mess that up.  Beer is messed up by either adding corn syrup solids and rice and then adding water to it after it has finished brewing like Bud Light or Coors Light.  Or adding a bunch of fruit and sugar to it like Dogfish Head aprihop. 

your blind adherence to the reinheitsgebot is entertaining, tho.  the belgians make incredible beers using sugars, spices, etc.  rye is a great addition to beer, but banned under that anachronistic law of 1516.  the writers of that law didn't even know about yeast, ferfuxake. 

you are right in pointing out that the big breweries make their boring yellow fizzy stuff using adjuncts.  but it's the process that makes it bad, not the ingredients.  you can make very good beer using corn or rice, if you know what you're doing.  just so happens that the main uses for them are crap beers.  doesn't mean the ingredients are inherently flawed.

it's in fact quite easy to eff up a malt/water/hops/yeast beer.

Quote from: Yada on June 03, 2013, 01:20:25 pm
Is atomicfront the world's biggest troll, douche, or ignorant?

yes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 03, 2013, 06:10:03 pm
sweetcell . . . who do you hate more, me or atomic.  be honest.  ive pissed you off so many times in the past.  and sometimes, i feel you are in control of too much egocentric knowledge.  but arent we all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 06:30:33 pm
Of course you didn't know. You're far more interested in sharing your vast knowledge of beer than you are of reading the ravings of the fringe beer drinkers of the world.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 04:58:59 pm
  Like I knew you were a bunch of lunatics who travel to Vermont to pick up a couple of cases of beer.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 06:31:40 pm
Thanks. I knew about the Mon+wed, but not Tues. We should be ok early afternoon on a Thurs, I would think.

Quote from: sweetcell on June 03, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
a'front, cover you eyes...

ford: regarding your upcoming trip to VT:

Quote from: James Ford on May 31, 2013, 01:29:08 pm
We should be hitting the area on a Thursday morning, so a noon stop at HF when the open, then stop at Alchemist, then Prohibition Pig for a late lunch, then Ben and Jerry's, then Warren Store for Lawsons (they get deliveries on Thurs, wonder how soon after I need to be there?), then drive to Burlington, have dinner and stay at hotel. Then Friday to Winooski Beverage for Lawson's (they get their delivery Friday) if we didn't get any or didn't have a chance to go to Warren Store.

you probably already knew this, but i've just discovered that The Alchemist is now canning on mondays, tuesdays and wednesday.  as of last year it was mondays and thursdays but their facebook page says its now m/t/w.  i suspect you can't change your travel plans, just fyi.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 04:04:22 pm
Sorry to put this thread back on the tracks, but I'm very much looking forward to trading OTWOA for Heady Topper with my buddy in upstate NY in a few weeks. My only regret is that I wish I bought more OTWOA. Stupid daycare.

how's distribution of canning going for them? what is it again, $18?

i really need to make it down there next time, i fucking love that stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 07:01:48 pm
so on the topic of beers and travel - i just got back from 16 days in China & hong kong, where i made it a point to check out some of their beer scene.  lots of expats and such opening up small breweries  and pubs there. 

in beijing: i checked out the original great leap brewery and had a very good, piney and fresh dipa called hop god 120. the whole place was pretty cool, tucked away in a hutong, and had a really cool atmosphere.

shanghai: boxing cat brewery had a good imperial stout, decent food, and overall a nice brew pub.  also went to a paulaner brauhaus, which was a hilarious tourist trap and i got to enjoy a paulaner dunkel (i think?) while watching a hilarious coverband shred through stairway to heaven and butcher gotye.

hong kong: two cool beer spots in this city - one is literally a kiosk on the pier who sells draft and bottle beers for super cheap, and then a place called the globe, which had a really nice import selection.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 07:24:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
how's distribution of canning going for them? what is it again, $18?

i really need to make it down there next time, i fucking love that stuff.

It's during their growler hours on Saturday. And yes, $18 for a sixer. Only available at the brewery right now. It's pretty cool that they are getting some national acclaim for it. Also, Taster's Choice was excellent. Still have an oaked Penn Quarter Porter that I need to crack open soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 07:44:50 pm
Go on vacation in Germany and Belgium with a four year old, and fuck yeah it's going to be about the beer. It aint gonna be about museums or long hikes in the Alps, because that shit doesn't happen with a four year old in tow. (And it aint gonna be about the food when you're vegetarian.)

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 04:58:59 pm


And the sad thing is you probably visited Germany for the beer.  Which I am clearly not doing.



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 08:48:56 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 07:24:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
how's distribution of canning going for them? what is it again, $18?

i really need to make it down there next time, i fucking love that stuff.

It's during their growler hours on Saturday. And yes, $18 for a sixer. Only available at the brewery right now. It's pretty cool that they are getting some national acclaim for it. Also, Taster's Choice was excellent. Still have an oaked Penn Quarter Porter that I need to crack open soon.

wait - every Saturday, or only select weekends?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 09:03:40 pm
I think it's every Saturday while supplies last from most recent batch last.

I must admit I was disappointed with the PieTasters Choice Dopplebock. Once you've had the Ayinger and Andescher dopplebocks (Heil Germany!), maybe anything else is lacking in comparison.

Anybody know where I can get the Penn Quarter Porter or El Hefe in cans, other than the brewery? Are they going to have those out on a regular basis?

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 08:48:56 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 07:24:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
how's distribution of canning going for them? what is it again, $18?

i really need to make it down there next time, i fucking love that stuff.

It's during their growler hours on Saturday. And yes, $18 for a sixer. Only available at the brewery right now. It's pretty cool that they are getting some national acclaim for it. Also, Taster's Choice was excellent. Still have an oaked Penn Quarter Porter that I need to crack open soon.

wait - every Saturday, or only select weekends?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 04, 2013, 09:13:58 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 08:48:56 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 07:24:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
how's distribution of canning going for them? what is it again, $18?

i really need to make it down there next time, i fucking love that stuff.

It's during their growler hours on Saturday. And yes, $18 for a sixer. Only available at the brewery right now. It's pretty cool that they are getting some national acclaim for it. Also, Taster's Choice was excellent. Still have an oaked Penn Quarter Porter that I need to crack open soon.

wait - every Saturday, or only select weekends?

It's only canned every few months, I'm guessing there isn't any left from the last canning weekend (May 11th).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on June 04, 2013, 10:35:11 am
Quote from: Yada on June 04, 2013, 09:13:58 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 08:48:56 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 07:24:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
how's distribution of canning going for them? what is it again, $18?

i really need to make it down there next time, i fucking love that stuff.

It's during their growler hours on Saturday. And yes, $18 for a sixer. Only available at the brewery right now. It's pretty cool that they are getting some national acclaim for it. Also, Taster's Choice was excellent. Still have an oaked Penn Quarter Porter that I need to crack open soon.

wait - every Saturday, or only select weekends?

It's only canned every few months, I'm guessing there isn't any left from the last canning weekend (May 11th).

They still had OTWOA cans last Saturday, I was surprised. I'm going to wait for the next fresh batch to buy some, should probably be another month or so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 04, 2013, 10:53:04 am
Quote from: fatskippy on June 04, 2013, 10:35:11 am
Quote from: Yada on June 04, 2013, 09:13:58 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 08:48:56 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 07:24:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
how's distribution of canning going for them? what is it again, $18?

i really need to make it down there next time, i fucking love that stuff.

It's during their growler hours on Saturday. And yes, $18 for a sixer. Only available at the brewery right now. It's pretty cool that they are getting some national acclaim for it. Also, Taster's Choice was excellent. Still have an oaked Penn Quarter Porter that I need to crack open soon.

wait - every Saturday, or only select weekends?

It's only canned every few months, I'm guessing there isn't any left from the last canning weekend (May 11th).

They still had OTWOA cans last Saturday, I was surprised. I'm going to wait for the next fresh batch to buy some, should probably be another month or so.

Wow, that's surprising. I guess the demand died down pretty quickly. I actually just had my last can over the weekend from the May 11th canning and it was still delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 04, 2013, 11:00:10 am
DC people getting sick of the bitter hops and moving back to lagers, obviously.

Quote from: Yada on June 04, 2013, 10:53:04 am
Quote from: fatskippy on June 04, 2013, 10:35:11 am
Quote from: Yada on June 04, 2013, 09:13:58 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 08:48:56 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 07:24:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
how's distribution of canning going for them? what is it again, $18?

i really need to make it down there next time, i fucking love that stuff.

It's during their growler hours on Saturday. And yes, $18 for a sixer. Only available at the brewery right now. It's pretty cool that they are getting some national acclaim for it. Also, Taster's Choice was excellent. Still have an oaked Penn Quarter Porter that I need to crack open soon.

wait - every Saturday, or only select weekends?

It's only canned every few months, I'm guessing there isn't any left from the last canning weekend (May 11th).

They still had OTWOA cans last Saturday, I was surprised. I'm going to wait for the next fresh batch to buy some, should probably be another month or so.

Wow, that's surprising. I guess the demand died down pretty quickly. I actually just had my last can over the weekend from the May 11th canning and it was still delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on June 04, 2013, 11:11:32 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 04, 2013, 11:00:10 am
DC people getting sick of the bitter hops and moving back to lagers, obviously.

Quote from: Yada on June 04, 2013, 10:53:04 am
Quote from: fatskippy on June 04, 2013, 10:35:11 am
Quote from: Yada on June 04, 2013, 09:13:58 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 08:48:56 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 03, 2013, 07:24:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 03, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
how's distribution of canning going for them? what is it again, $18?

i really need to make it down there next time, i fucking love that stuff.

It's during their growler hours on Saturday. And yes, $18 for a sixer. Only available at the brewery right now. It's pretty cool that they are getting some national acclaim for it. Also, Taster's Choice was excellent. Still have an oaked Penn Quarter Porter that I need to crack open soon.

wait - every Saturday, or only select weekends?

It's only canned every few months, I'm guessing there isn't any left from the last canning weekend (May 11th).

They still had OTWOA cans last Saturday, I was surprised. I'm going to wait for the next fresh batch to buy some, should probably be another month or so.

Wow, that's surprising. I guess the demand died down pretty quickly. I actually just had my last can over the weekend from the May 11th canning and it was still delicious.

Ha, more for me!

On an unrelated, but related note.  I dry hopped a Black IPA that I created this weekend, brewed soley with Falconers Flight hops, as I liked the OTWOA hop profile so much when I first had it.

Three more weeks and we'll see if I'm on to anything, ha.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 04, 2013, 12:04:09 pm
Quote from: imbecile on June 04, 2013, 11:11:32 am
On an unrelated, but related note.  I dry hopped a Black IPA that I created this weekend, brewed soley with Falconers Flight hops, as I liked the OTWOA hop profile so much when I first had it.

Three more weeks and we'll see if I'm on to anything, ha.

nice, let us know how it turns out.  popular opinion on FF is overwhelmingly positive, probably the most popular mixed hop pellet out there.

i used to be ambivalent about hop blends but have warmed up to the idea.  i have a pound of zythos, another hop blend, that i haven't properly checked out yet.  i've used it once for bittering only so i don't know what the falvor/aroma profile is like.  i really should brew something with just that hop but *SQUIRREL*

edit: meant to ask - that three weeks wait you mentioned includes bottling/carbonation time, right?  hopefully you're not dry-hopping for 3 weeks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on June 04, 2013, 12:36:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 04, 2013, 12:04:09 pm
Quote from: imbecile on June 04, 2013, 11:11:32 am
On an unrelated, but related note.  I dry hopped a Black IPA that I created this weekend, brewed soley with Falconers Flight hops, as I liked the OTWOA hop profile so much when I first had it.

Three more weeks and we'll see if I'm on to anything, ha.

nice, let us know how it turns out.  popular opinion on FF is overwhelmingly positive, probably the most popular mixed hop pellet out there.

i used to be ambivalent about hop blends but have warmed up to the idea.  i have a pound of zythos, another hop blend, that i haven't properly checked out yet.  i've used it once for bittering only so i don't know what the falvor/aroma profile is like.  i really should brew something with just that hop but *SQUIRREL*

edit: meant to ask - that three weeks wait you mentioned includes bottling/carbonation time, right?  hopefully you're not dry-hopping for 3 weeks!

Yes, you got it.  Dry hop for a week, am bottling this weekend and then carbing for two.  Someday I'll get to kegging, which sounds glorious compared to bottling, ugh.

I was on the fence about blends as well until I tried OTWOA; just didnt' know much about them and they're all proprietary, so hard to find ratios of what's in there to figure out how it'll react with other stuff.  Meh, it just intimidated me, ha.  A few times a year I'll brew using a single hop to try and get a good feel for them, usually making a simple amber/IPA/pale ale (realized I really like chinook hops in like a session strength ipa that way), but these blends are a whole new animal for me. 

A lawnmower black IPA probably wasn't the best vehicle for this foray to really assess the hops, but I was clearing out a bunch of leftover ingredients and that's what I ended up with.

Let me know how the Zythos turns out if/when you give it a full evaluation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 04, 2013, 12:41:01 pm
i've used falconers flight a couple times (notably in an imperial red), and yeah, great hop.

surely you won't be disappointed, and if you are, feel free to send your unwanted beers my way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 04, 2013, 12:55:33 pm
Quote from: imbecile on June 04, 2013, 12:36:57 pm
Someday I'll get to kegging, which sounds glorious compared to bottling, ugh.

kegging would be nice but it's so damn expensive to get into.  i'm pretty zen about bottling... i almost enjoy the process.  it's also something that i do with the missus, so it's a brewing related activity that we can do together.  well, she helps if i don't start at midnight like i did last night.  not a recommended school-night activity.  that gawddam belgian imperial stout better turn out good. 

uh, i think i just lost my zen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on June 04, 2013, 01:03:31 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 09:03:40 pm
I think it's every Saturday while supplies last from most recent batch last.

I must admit I was disappointed with the PieTasters Choice Dopplebock. Once you've had the Ayinger and Andescher dopplebocks (Heil Germany!), maybe anything else is lacking in comparison.

Anybody know where I can get the Penn Quarter Porter or El Hefe in cans, other than the brewery? Are they going to have those out on a regular basis?


I've seen Penn Quarter at Rodman's in DC and Connecticut Avenue Wine in Dupont Circle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 08:01:32 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 06:30:33 pm
Of course you didn't know. You're far more interested in sharing your vast knowledge of beer than you are of reading the ravings of the fringe beer drinkers of the world.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 04:58:59 pm
  Like I knew you were a bunch of lunatics who travel to Vermont to pick up a couple of cases of beer.  

I dont' read your opinions on beer because they are not your own.  If I wanted to know your opinions I could just read beer advocates average ratings. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 08:03:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 07:44:50 pm
Go on vacation in Germany and Belgium with a four year old, and fuck yeah it's going to be about the beer. It aint gonna be about museums or long hikes in the Alps, because that shit doesn't happen with a four year old in tow. (And it aint gonna be about the food when you're vegetarian.)

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 04:58:59 pm


And the sad thing is you probably visited Germany for the beer.  Which I am clearly not doing.




YOu are a vegetarian?  Isn't 55 too old to have a 4 year old?  Sounds like fun though taking a 4 year old to the beer gardens.  I will be visiting the art museums, hiking in the alps, visiting relatives, touring castles.  Sucks to be you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 05, 2013, 08:46:34 am
I'm 46, vegetarian for about 15 of those. One kid who is turning six this month.

Actually, it was quite fun taking our daughter to beer gardens. The Hirschgarten had a petting zoo, multiple playgrounds, plenty of space to run around and be free, and plenty of German kids to play with.

We also went to Legoland for a day, did some light hiking (five miles and less), drove through the Black Forest, roamed the streets of Munich, Freiburg, Bruges, Ghent and Amsterdam (wife inhaled, I didn't), drank good beer in Germany and Holland, great beer in Belgium. We did go to the Van Gogh museum, though my daughter seems to prefer modern art over than post-Impressionism. The weather was perfect, just one rainstorm in two weeks, and that was in the midst of a drive.

All in all, best family vacation ever. Both wife and daughter agree. We'll leave the castle tours to the tourists, hike the Alps when she's a little older, and thankfully never have to waste time in a European vacation visiting any of our boring relatives.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 08:03:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 03, 2013, 07:44:50 pm
Go on vacation in Germany and Belgium with a four year old, and fuck yeah it's going to be about the beer. It aint gonna be about museums or long hikes in the Alps, because that shit doesn't happen with a four year old in tow. (And it aint gonna be about the food when you're vegetarian.)

Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 04:58:59 pm


And the sad thing is you probably visited Germany for the beer.  Which I am clearly not doing.




YOu are a vegetarian?  Isn't 55 too old to have a 4 year old?  Sounds like fun though taking a 4 year old to the beer gardens.  I will be visiting the art museums, hiking in the alps, visiting relatives, touring castles.  Sucks to be you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 08:53:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 05, 2013, 08:46:34 am

 We'll leave the castle tours to the tourists,

 and thankfully never have to waste time in a European vacation visiting any of our boring relatives.


Hello!! You were a tourist!

Sorry your relatives are so boring.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 05, 2013, 09:03:48 am
A flip-flop on the flip-top  (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/beer-in-cans-keeps-stacking-up/2013/06/03/6df69c70-c7d8-11e2-9245-773c0123c027_story.html)

"What changed is the quality of the can lining,? explained Koch of his about-face. ?Beer used to pick up a solvent-like character from the solvent-based linings. Now they use water-based linings.?

What?s more, ?the new linings are more flexible,? he contends, less likely to tear and allow the beer to come into contact with metal. ?They?ve proven out, but I wanted to make sure. They crossed a threshold two years ago.?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 05, 2013, 09:10:37 am
We went to Hofbrau Haus, you can't get more touristy than that. But we went in an ironic, mocking way. And drank their mediocre beer while laughing at the singers in lederhosen.

IMO, castles are better in pictures than in person.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 08:53:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 05, 2013, 08:46:34 am

 We'll leave the castle tours to the tourists,

 and thankfully never have to waste time in a European vacation visiting any of our boring relatives.


Hello!! You were a tourist!

Sorry your relatives are so boring.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 05, 2013, 09:20:21 am
glad we're continuing where we left on Monday with you two.  i was concerned yesterday with all that actual beer talk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 05, 2013, 09:57:27 am
brennser rules.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 05, 2013, 10:03:06 am
all hail king henry brennser
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 10:10:51 am
Quote from: Shemp on June 05, 2013, 09:03:48 am
A flip-flop on the flip-top  (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/beer-in-cans-keeps-stacking-up/2013/06/03/6df69c70-c7d8-11e2-9245-773c0123c027_story.html)

"What changed is the quality of the can lining,? explained Koch of his about-face. ?Beer used to pick up a solvent-like character from the solvent-based linings. Now they use water-based linings.?

What?s more, ?the new linings are more flexible,? he contends, less likely to tear and allow the beer to come into contact with metal. ?They?ve proven out, but I wanted to make sure. They crossed a threshold two years ago.?

Why not just use glass?  Glass gives no taste to beer and needs no lining.  Who knows what the health effect of the lining will be?  Cans are cheaper and that is why they are using them.  Unless you are in an area that doesn't allow bottles I see no reason anyone would want cans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 05, 2013, 10:56:18 am
as i already wrote:

Quote from: sweetcell on June 03, 2013, 06:07:56 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:18:12 am
Canned beer?  Really?  You buy canned beer? Obviously it will taste like crap. 

cans are an excellent packaging for beer.  they are superior to bottles in several ways: more airtight (caps leak), 100% protection from light (glass let light through, even brown bottles), etc. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 11:08:30 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 05, 2013, 10:56:18 am
as i already wrote:

Quote from: sweetcell on June 03, 2013, 06:07:56 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 03, 2013, 11:18:12 am
Canned beer?  Really?  You buy canned beer? Obviously it will taste like crap. 

cans are an excellent packaging for beer.  they are superior to bottles in several ways: more airtight (caps leak), 100% protection from light (glass let light through, even brown bottles), etc. 



I have never had a bottle leak.  Unless you keep the beer in sun you have nothing to worry about from UV.  Just marketing reasons to get you to save them  money. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 05, 2013, 11:09:30 am
all atomicfront's posts are null and void.

Great news from a great brewery.

http://beerpulse.com/2013/06/surly-brewing-co-on-pace-to-grow-production-by-nearly-50-in-2013-video-548/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 05, 2013, 11:21:27 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 11:08:30 am
I have never had a bottle leak.  Unless you keep the beer in sun you have nothing to worry about from UV.  Just marketing reasons to get you to save them  money. 

you really like putting your ignorance on display, don't you?

florescent lights - like the ones they have in most warehouses & retailer - can damage beer.  in fact if you've ever had a light-struck beer it was likely cause by fluorescent lights.  and a number of your beloved german breweries ship their product in green bottles - bad move.

and caps don't leak as in letting all the liquid out, they can make imperfect seals that allow air to get in.  this is problem for long-term storage (not that you do that with your lagers...)  air = oxidation = off-flavors, not that i suspect you'd be able to pick up on an oxidized beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 05, 2013, 11:31:12 am
Plus you can fit more cans in a cooler, they're lighter, and you can crush them when you're finished.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 05, 2013, 11:33:00 am
Quote from: Yada on June 05, 2013, 11:09:30 am
all atomicfront's posts are null and void.

this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 05, 2013, 11:42:50 am
cans don't shatter into a million sharp pieces when you drop them.  not only is that safer, it makes for a much much easier cleanup.  in fact, if you drop an unopened can there is no cleanup at all other than picking up the can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 05, 2013, 12:03:13 pm
Who drinks out of cans or bottles anyways? Pour it into the proper glassware, ya fuckin cretins.

I've flown with multiple bottles several times and never had a break or leak. My mom flew once with 11 cans of Heady Topper and had one leak all over her suitcase. Just sayin'.

And I've never in my 40+ years of drinking beer once dropped and broke a bottle. Just sayin', again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 12:16:40 pm
Quote from: Shemp on June 05, 2013, 11:31:12 am
Plus you can fit more cans in a cooler, they're lighter, and you can crush them when you're finished.

You can burn the bottles when you are finished.   Also   Aluminum is a toxic metal linked to Alzheimer disease  and brain deformities.  But keep drinking those canned beers. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 05, 2013, 12:51:54 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 12:16:40 pm
Quote from: Shemp on June 05, 2013, 11:31:12 am
Plus you can fit more cans in a cooler, they're lighter, and you can crush them when you're finished.

You can burn the bottles when you are finished.   Also   Aluminum is a toxic metal linked to Alzheimer disease  and brain deformities.  But keep drinking those canned beers. 

you burn your bottles? 

aluminum cans are lined.  the beer never comes in contact with the metal.  so your concerns are unfounded.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 01:35:32 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 05, 2013, 12:51:54 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 05, 2013, 12:16:40 pm
Quote from: Shemp on June 05, 2013, 11:31:12 am
Plus you can fit more cans in a cooler, they're lighter, and you can crush them when you're finished.

You can burn the bottles when you are finished.   Also   Aluminum is a toxic metal linked to Alzheimer disease  and brain deformities.  But keep drinking those canned beers. 

you burn your bottles? 

aluminum cans are lined.  the beer never comes in contact with the metal.  so your concerns are unfounded.

No I don't even buy bottled beer.  If I drink at home I drink my own and if I drink out at places I drink kegged beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on June 05, 2013, 01:55:43 pm
Boulevard Love Child No. 3 is about to hit DC. Has anyone tried this or Love Child No. 2? Worth the price of admission? ($22/750ml)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 05, 2013, 02:10:49 pm
Can't answer your question, sorry.

It has been in VA for several weeks. CAlled Total Wine and they initially told me it was $9. But then the next day it was $18. So anyway, drive to VA and you'll save $4 plus the difference in tax.

We're having a Bruery Sour in the Rye tonite (her choice, not mine). I'll bet that one is better.


Quote from: fatskippy on June 05, 2013, 01:55:43 pm
Boulevard Love Child No. 3 is about to hit DC. Has anyone tried this or Love Child No. 2? Worth the price of admission? ($22/750ml)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 05, 2013, 05:25:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 05, 2013, 09:57:27 am
brennser rules.
aw, shucks guys - thanks ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 10:00:16 am
I had some Kilkenny Irish Cream Ale last night.  Suprising that I have never seen this before as it is made by Guiness and has been around for hundreds of years. It was tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 10:34:17 am
I had water last night. Probably pretty similiar in taste, and less calories!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 11:05:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 10:34:17 am
I had water last night. Probably pretty similiar in taste, and less calories!


I expected an asshole comment from you.  Do you do anything but troll?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 12:20:13 pm
I'm sorry, I should have ignored your post as everyone else I'm sure did.

But you do see that your post was the equivalent of a 50 year old guy who claims to like rock music going on a "rock music" thread and proclaiming he had just heard Tom Petty for the first time....right?

Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 11:05:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 10:34:17 am
I had water last night. Probably pretty similiar in taste, and less calories!


I expected an asshole comment from you.  Do you do anything but troll?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 01:41:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 12:20:13 pm
I'm sorry, I should have ignored your post as everyone else I'm sure did.

But you do see that your post was the equivalent of a 50 year old guy who claims to like rock music going on a "rock music" thread and proclaiming he had just heard Tom Petty for the first time....right?

Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 11:05:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 10:34:17 am
I had water last night. Probably pretty similiar in taste, and less calories!


I expected an asshole comment from you.  Do you do anything but troll?

That beer has only been imported for a couple of years. I have never seen it in a bar before.    You are an asshole.  You know it. I am sure you wouldn't talk like that to me in person, little man.  You are the one who admitted to drinking coors light and bud light all your life. I  never drank that crap.  I am not a wimpy man who needs to approve what he likes by reading beer advocate first.  How pathetic can you be?  I know you do that.  You drink a beer than you look on the review on beer advocate to decide whether it is Ok for you to like it.  Don't you see how sad that is? 

I can imagine how much fun it would be to go to a bar with you.  Bitching the whole time about the beer selection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 06, 2013, 01:45:22 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 01:41:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 12:20:13 pm
I'm sorry, I should have ignored your post as everyone else I'm sure did.

But you do see that your post was the equivalent of a 50 year old guy who claims to like rock music going on a "rock music" thread and proclaiming he had just heard Tom Petty for the first time....right?

Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 11:05:43 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 10:34:17 am
I had water last night. Probably pretty similiar in taste, and less calories!


I expected an asshole comment from you.  Do you do anything but troll?

That beer has only been imported for a couple of years. I have never seen it in a bar before.    You are an asshole.  You know it. I am sure you wouldn't talk like that to me in person because I would knock you down, little man.  You are the one who admitted to drinking coors light and bud light all your life. I  never drank that crap.  I am not a wimpy man who needs to approve what he likes by reading beer advocate first.  How pathetic can you be?  I know you do that.  You drink a beer than you look on the review on beer advocate to decide whether it is Ok for you to like it.  Don't you see how sad that is? 

I can imagine how much fun it would be to go to a bar with you.  Bitching the whole time about the beer selection.

Net Threats!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 02:00:41 pm
For the record, I've never had a Coors Light or a Bud Light in my life. Before I got into craft beer, I was a wine drinker.

I did once go to the Coors Brewery and took the tour and got the free samples. But I don't think I chose Coors Light for a sample.

I can state that when my mom went through a bit of a beer drinking phase in her 60's, she did drink Coors Light and Kilkenny Irish Cream. Lol.

Hey, wanna come to our next 9:30 bottle share party?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 02:04:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 02:00:41 pm
For the record, I've never had a Coors Light or a Bud Light in my life. Before I got into craft beer, I was a wine drinker.

I did once go to the Coors Brewery and took the tour and got the free samples. But I don't think I chose Coors Light for a sample.

I can state that when my mom went through a bit of a beer drinking phase in her 60's, she did drink Coors Light and Kilkenny Irish Cream. Lol.

Hey, wanna come to our next 9:30 bottle share party?

Absolutely not.  I don't think I could stand being in the same room as you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 06, 2013, 02:06:15 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 01:41:00 pm
That beer has only been imported for a couple of years. I have never seen it in a bar before.   


then you haven't been to many bars.  it's been a staple of "irish pubs" for a long time.  kilkinney was one of the first beers i got into when i was discovering that beer could be more than insipid fizzy yellow lager - that was some time in the mid-90's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 02:14:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 06, 2013, 02:06:15 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 01:41:00 pm
That beer has only been imported for a couple of years. I have never seen it in a bar before.   


then you haven't been to many bars.  it's been a staple of "irish pubs" for a long time.  kilkinney was one of the first beers i got into when i was discovering that beer could be more than insipid fizzy yellow lager - that was some time in the mid-90's.

From what I read until 2010 the only place in USA it was available was in Dubliner Pub in DC. I don't go to a lot of Irish Pubs that is true.  But you see Smithwicks, Guinness, and Harp everywhere. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 02:44:39 pm
If that is the case, I offer you my apologies. I honestly don't pay attention macro grocery store beers anymore. Kilkenny, Smithwick's, Killians, Harp...they're all gateway beers that have fallen off my radar.

Sweetcell, could it be that Kilkenny was much more readily available in Canada (where I presume you were) in the mid-90's than it was in the US?

Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 02:14:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 06, 2013, 02:06:15 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 01:41:00 pm
That beer has only been imported for a couple of years. I have never seen it in a bar before.   


then you haven't been to many bars.  it's been a staple of "irish pubs" for a long time.  kilkinney was one of the first beers i got into when i was discovering that beer could be more than insipid fizzy yellow lager - that was some time in the mid-90's.

From what I read until 2010 the only place in USA it was available was in Dubliner Pub in DC. I don't go to a lot of Irish Pubs that is true.  But you see Smithwicks, Guinness, and Harp everywhere. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 06, 2013, 03:09:18 pm
fwiw I don't think i've ever seen Kilkenny on tap in Ireland - usually Guinness, Smithwicks, Harp and then the global macros
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 03:16:25 pm
"'Kilkenny' name was originally used during the 1980s and 1990s to market a stronger version of Smithwick's for the European and Canadian market due to difficulty in pronunciation of the word 'Smithwick's'. It now refers to a similar yet distinct beer."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 03:34:39 pm
Interesting.

According to your much detested BA website, Smithwick's is a smidge stronger, 4.5% to 4.3%.

I wonder if they've watered it down for the American market and it's now different from the beer Sweetcell is referring to that he drank in the 90's.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 03:16:25 pm
"'Kilkenny' name was originally used during the 1980s and 1990s to market a stronger version of Smithwick's for the European and Canadian market due to difficulty in pronunciation of the word 'Smithwick's'. It now refers to a similar yet distinct beer."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 06, 2013, 03:38:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 02:44:39 pm
Sweetcell, could it be that Kilkenny was much more readily available in Canada (where I presume you were) in the mid-90's than it was in the US?

sounds like that's the case.

what's so hard about pronouncing Smithwicks?  sounds like "smidicks", no?

edit: i have no idea what the ABV was back then, but it was as strong as any other beer on offer which was typically 5.0-5.5%.  beers generally tend to be a tad stronger in canada.  gotta fight off them winter chills.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 06, 2013, 03:44:23 pm
back in the day DC used to get Caffreys ale while I remember liking
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 04:04:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 06, 2013, 03:34:39 pm
Interesting.

According to your much detested BA website, Smithwick's is a smidge stronger, 4.5% to 4.3%.

I wonder if they've watered it down for the American market and it's now different from the beer Sweetcell is referring to that he drank in the 90's.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 03:16:25 pm
"'Kilkenny' name was originally used during the 1980s and 1990s to market a stronger version of Smithwick's for the European and Canadian market due to difficulty in pronunciation of the word 'Smithwick's'. It now refers to a similar yet distinct beer."

Well the current Killkenny is a cream ale.  Smithwicks is an Red Ale.  So I don't think it is a watered down version at of all.  The current Smithwicks would be a watered down version of the older Canadian Killkenny.  Also the current Killkenny uses nitrogen so you get a really slow poor like Guinness which can be annoying.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 06, 2013, 04:47:45 pm
according to style definitions, cream ales are lighter than red ales so watering down a red ale could indeed produce something close to a cream ale.  doesn't mean that the beers are what they claim to be - you can label your beer to be any style you like regardless of whether you are in its bounds (for example you can call whatever beer you like an "IPA"), there is no style police.  so who knows if kilkenny truly is a cream ale, stylistically; or if Smithwicks is in fact a "true" red ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 06, 2013, 05:46:08 pm
stopping by mad fox today, i snagged a growler of batch 300.  tasty strong ale, and you get 50% off a growler fill if you write a yelp review for them and show it.

the real winner of the trip was a taster of the molotov hoptail '13.  similar to hoptimum, but maltier. i recommend snagging a glass if you see it around.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 06:03:39 pm
Thinking of canned beer I am reminded of my youthful trip to England where I enjoyed Carlsberg Special Brew.  They came in these big cans and are 9 percent alcohol.  I usually drank 3 a night.  The first was god-awful.  The second tasted pretty good and by your third you had lost all sense of taste or memory.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on June 07, 2013, 08:36:54 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 06, 2013, 06:03:39 pm
Thinking of canned beer I am reminded of my youthful trip to England where I enjoyed Carlsberg Special Brew.  They came in these big cans and are 9 percent alcohol.  I usually drank 3 a night.  The first was god-awful.  The second tasted pretty good and by your third you had lost all sense of taste or memory.   

that was probably just the brain deformities setting in from the aluminum can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 07, 2013, 09:46:21 am
i had my first carlsberg special brew last week in hong kong at club 7-11.

that beer has the rare ability to give you an immediate hangover, rather than waiting for it to settle in the next day.

special indeed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 07, 2013, 09:51:54 am
Evidently the Special comes from that they brewed it especially for Winston Churchill's visit to Denmark in 1950.  The quick hangover you get is just an added bonus. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 07, 2013, 12:33:30 pm
i believe something similar to this was posted somewhere on the board previously, but the information here seems pretty fresh:

The Nationals Park Beer Guide
http://thenationalsreview.com/the-nationals-park-beer-guide/
(coding is sloppy and it crashed one of my browsers, but the maps are very detailed)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 07, 2013, 01:15:15 pm
Timely, as we're going Sunday. And it if keeps on raining, we could be at a tripleheader!

I'm a little disappointed Hennepin is no longer an option at the ballpark.

I went in April and had a Dogfish Indian Brown. $10 plus tip. For a beer that sells four $8 a six pack at Total Wine. At least my ticket was free.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on June 07, 2013, 11:47:02 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 07, 2013, 01:15:15 pm
I went in April and had a Dogfish Indian Brown. $10 plus tip. For a beer that sells four $8 a six pack at Total Wine.

Lemme get this straight ... you're saying beer is more expensive at an event than buying at the store?

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 08, 2013, 09:23:42 am
One of them is more expensive than six.

Show me a pub with that kind of markup.

Quote from: slappy on June 07, 2013, 11:47:02 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 07, 2013, 01:15:15 pm
I went in April and had a Dogfish Indian Brown. $10 plus tip. For a beer that sells four $8 a six pack at Total Wine.

Lemme get this straight ... you're saying beer is more expensive at an event than buying at the store?

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 08, 2013, 11:16:17 am
don't get this guy started on popcorn and candy prices at the movie theatre.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 08, 2013, 03:40:39 pm
I was very happy to see Duckpin available at Merriweather.  And I didn't care that it was $11 for a 24 oz cup.  The same stand carries DC Brau as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 08, 2013, 05:06:21 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 08, 2013, 11:16:17 am
don't get this guy started on popcorn and candy prices at the movie theatre.

where i live, there used to be the cheap theatre . . . tickets were less than five buck each, and two people could go see a film, with no trailers, and two large sodas with a large popcorn that lets you refill it one time, for less than twenty dollars.  then they closed after of thirty years in business.  everyone was crushed.

we have the alamo draft house theatre thing in our area.  it destroys everything else, but i hate it.  i miss the good ole days of six theatre, three on each side with a huge, square concession stand in the middle; plus about five or six video games and one of the silly stuffed animal grab machines.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 08, 2013, 05:44:37 pm
Would it shock you if I said I haven't been to a movie theater in nearly six years, and I've never bought anything from the movie concessions stand in my life? Just bring your own.


Quote from: stevewizzle on June 08, 2013, 11:16:17 am
don't get this guy started on popcorn and candy prices at the movie theatre.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 08, 2013, 06:06:40 pm
It would shock me if someone was shocked by that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 09, 2013, 06:17:04 pm
i, myself . . . was pretty shocked.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 09, 2013, 07:07:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 08, 2013, 05:44:37 pm
Would it shock you if I said I haven't been to a movie theater in nearly six years, and I've never bought anything from the movie concessions stand in my life? Just bring your own.


You are one cheap bastard.

Anyway, I drank quite a bit of beer yesterday. 

Started off at Heavy Seas for the brewery tour.  Before you go in you pay 5 bucks and they give you a pint glass and 5 tokens for samples.  I took one of my wives samples so I had six. The owner of the place led the tour and was entertaining but their were too many people on the tour.  It looks like they are expanding for what its worth.  I have too say I am not a fan of their beers.  They taste pretty much the same. 

Here is what I sampled:

Heavy Seas - Small Craft Warning (Uber Pils)
   Loose Cannon (IPA) - Firkin
   Powder Monkey (English Pale Ale)
   Peg Leg (Imperial Stout)
        Gold Ale
   Cutlass (Amber Lager)

I would say the Loose Cannon IPA was the best of the lot.  Followed by the Peg Leg.  The others were too hoppy for their styles and tasted too similar to each other.

After the disappointing brews I headed too Ellicott City Brewing company for some better selections.

Had the Marzen, Dunkel, and Heifweizen.  I would say all 3 were superior to the Heavy Seas Beers.   The Dunkel was my least favorite. 

After that I walked around Ellicott City and then stopped in a bar and had  a Paulaner hefeweizen.  It was pretty tasty.  Those germans sure know beer.

So we were heading to a cook out and I went to Wine Bin in Ellicot city and they sell growlers that you can fill with one of their five beers on tap.  I chose Southern Tier Pale Wheat Ale.  It turned out to taste similar to some of the Heavy Seas beers.  Not the best.

I also got a six pack of Affligem Blonde which I also drank 3 of at the cook-out party.  This is tasty and if you like Belgium Blondes I would recommend this. 

A game of Beer Pong broke out and I drank some warm Miller High Life.  I can't explain how bad an experience this was.  I luckily switched team and the new partner had filled the cups with Lenkugel's Summer Shandy.  Basically lemonade Beer.  At this point I was just happy I wasn't drinking warm Miller. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 09, 2013, 07:11:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 08, 2013, 09:23:42 am
One of them is more expensive than six.

Show me a pub with that kind of markup.


Have you been to the 930 club?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 09, 2013, 07:35:09 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 09, 2013, 07:07:05 pm
I took one of my wives samples so I had six. 

i didnt know you were a polygamist
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 09, 2013, 08:08:07 pm
Good point. I never actually buy beer at music venues. I always find a cheaper, better option nearby and drink one there. Or drink one at home before I leave.

In the case of the ballpark, the ticket was free, so what the hell, one overpriced beer didn't bankrupt me. Hell, I had another one at the game today. My wife needs a beer to help get her through the boredom (to her) of the game. And if she's having one, hell I'm having one too.

So now we're bankrupt from those two ballpark beers.. i'll be taking a second job, and won't be posting on here as often. god bless.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 09, 2013, 07:11:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 08, 2013, 09:23:42 am
One of them is more expensive than six.

Show me a pub with that kind of markup.


Have you been to the 930 club?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 09, 2013, 08:21:48 pm
Had Maine Brewing Lunch IPA for the very first time. Excellent IPA and a great brew for a warm, humid day. My other purchase was Evil Twin's Imperial Biscotti Break. Really looking forward to trying this one out despite the fact I currently have an overabundance of barrel-aged stouts in my "cellar".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 09, 2013, 08:34:45 pm
I wouldn't eat that shit if they were giving it away, so paying for it would be ludicrous, right?

Quote from: atomicfront on June 09, 2013, 07:07:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 08, 2013, 05:44:37 pm
Would it shock you if I said I haven't been to a movie theater in nearly six years, and I've never bought anything from the movie concessions stand in my life? Just bring your own.


You are one cheap bastard.

Anyway, I drank quite a bit of beer yesterday. 

Started off at Heavy Seas for the brewery tour.  Before you go in you pay 5 bucks and they give you a pint glass and 5 tokens for samples.  I took one of my wives samples so I had six. The owner of the place led the tour and was entertaining but their were too many people on the tour.  It looks like they are expanding for what its worth.  I have too say I am not a fan of their beers.  They taste pretty much the same. 

Here is what I sampled:

Heavy Seas - Small Craft Warning (Uber Pils)
   Loose Cannon (IPA) - Firkin
   Powder Monkey (English Pale Ale)
   Peg Leg (Imperial Stout)
        Gold Ale
   Cutlass (Amber Lager)

I would say the Loose Cannon IPA was the best of the lot.  Followed by the Peg Leg.  The others were too hoppy for their styles and tasted too similar to each other.

After the disappointing brews I headed too Ellicott City Brewing company for some better selections.

Had the Marzen, Dunkel, and Heifweizen.  I would say all 3 were superior to the Heavy Seas Beers.   The Dunkel was my least favorite. 

After that I walked around Ellicott City and then stopped in a bar and had  a Paulaner hefeweizen.  It was pretty tasty.  Those germans sure know beer.

So we were heading to a cook out and I went to Wine Bin in Ellicot city and they sell growlers that you can fill with one of their five beers on tap.  I chose Southern Tier Pale Wheat Ale.  It turned out to taste similar to some of the Heavy Seas beers.  Not the best.

I also got a six pack of Affligem Blonde which I also drank 3 of at the cook-out party.  This is tasty and if you like Belgium Blondes I would recommend this. 

A game of Beer Pong broke out and I drank some warm Miller High Life.  I can't explain how bad an experience this was.  I luckily switched team and the new partner had filled the cups with Lenkugel's Summer Shandy.  Basically lemonade Beer.  At this point I was just happy I wasn't drinking warm Miller. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 10, 2013, 09:02:28 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 09, 2013, 08:21:48 pm
Had Maine Brewing Lunch IPA for the very first time. Excellent IPA and a great brew for a warm, humid day. My other purchase was Evil Twin's Imperial Biscotti Break. Really looking forward to trying this one out despite the fact I currently have an overabundance of barrel-aged stouts in my "cellar".

I was about to post about Lunch IPA as well... Bought a bottle $8 (a tad over priced I'd say), but quite delicious. Would drink again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 10, 2013, 09:42:06 am
That's a 500 ml (16.9 oz) bottle, right?

Quote from: Yada on June 10, 2013, 09:02:28 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 09, 2013, 08:21:48 pm
Had Maine Brewing Lunch IPA for the very first time. Excellent IPA and a great brew for a warm, humid day. My other purchase was Evil Twin's Imperial Biscotti Break. Really looking forward to trying this one out despite the fact I currently have an overabundance of barrel-aged stouts in my "cellar".

I was about to post about Lunch IPA as well... Bought a bottle $8 (a tad over priced I'd say), but quite delicious. Would drink again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 10, 2013, 10:39:39 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 10, 2013, 09:42:06 am
That's a 500 ml (16.9 oz) bottle, right?

Quote from: Yada on June 10, 2013, 09:02:28 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on June 09, 2013, 08:21:48 pm
Had Maine Brewing Lunch IPA for the very first time. Excellent IPA and a great brew for a warm, humid day. My other purchase was Evil Twin's Imperial Biscotti Break. Really looking forward to trying this one out despite the fact I currently have an overabundance of barrel-aged stouts in my "cellar".

I was about to post about Lunch IPA as well... Bought a bottle $8 (a tad over priced I'd say), but quite delicious. Would drink again.

Correct.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 10, 2013, 01:49:21 pm
had a Flying Dog Double Dog Double Pale Ale this weekend.  very hoppy, surprising amount of malt flavor considering how pale it is.  you get some alcohol heat but not as much as the 11.5% abv probably should.  really enjoyable and surprisingly drinkable for such an extreme beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 10, 2013, 02:03:14 pm
Oh yeah, drank many Left Hand Milk Stouts over the weekend... and OTWOA on tap at Rustico. Yum!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 10, 2013, 02:47:32 pm
Oh on the Heavy Seas tour two people brought babies with them.  One of the babies cried the whole tour.  Why would you bring a baby to a brewery tour.  And this comes after friday night when I was at a pub with live music and someone at the table next to me had a baby that was crying the whole time.  Get a sitter or stay home.  Geez.

Anyway my next brewery tour is Flying Dog and I saw this and smiled:

All brewery tours and events are for those 21 or older. Please do not bring children.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on June 10, 2013, 02:51:41 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 08, 2013, 09:23:42 am
One of them is more expensive than six.

Show me a pub with that kind of markup.

I'll stick with sporting events since we're talking about them and not pubs.
A can of Molson will cost you $13 at the St. Pete Times Forum (now Tampa Bay Times Forum). Bottled water is $5.

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 10, 2013, 02:59:24 pm
My five year old actually asked me if we could go on the Dogfish tour the next time we go to the beach.

She went on the Heavy Seas tour when she was two or three and sketched in her sketch book the whole time.

And as I said before, she's been fine in breweries and pubs in the US and around the world.

It really depends on the kid. Some are very well behaved and can handle it, some are complete shitshows. It also probably helps to only have one.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 10, 2013, 02:47:32 pm
Oh on the Heavy Seas tour two people brought babies with them.  One of the babies cried the whole tour.  Why would you bring a baby to a brewery tour.  And this comes after friday night when I was at a pub with live music and someone at the table next to me had a baby that was crying the whole time.  Get a sitter or stay home.  Geez.

Anyway my next brewery tour is Flying Dog and I saw this and smiled:

All brewery tours and events are for those 21 or older. Please do not bring children.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 10, 2013, 03:16:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 10, 2013, 02:59:24 pm
My five year old actually asked me if we could go on the Dogfish tour the next time we go to the beach.

She went on the Heavy Seas tour when she was two or three and sketched in her sketch book the whole time.

And as I said before, she's been fine in breweries and pubs in the US and around the world.

It really depends on the kid. Some are very well behaved and can handle it, some are complete shitshows. It also probably helps to only have one.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 10, 2013, 02:47:32 pm
Oh on the Heavy Seas tour two people brought babies with them.  One of the babies cried the whole tour.  Why would you bring a baby to a brewery tour.  And this comes after friday night when I was at a pub with live music and someone at the table next to me had a baby that was crying the whole time.  Get a sitter or stay home.  Geez.

Anyway my next brewery tour is Flying Dog and I saw this and smiled:

All brewery tours and events are for those 21 or older. Please do not bring children.

There is a difference between five year olds and babies.  Don't bring a baby to a bar or a brewery tour.  Well I know some five year olds that have no business being on a brewery tour. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 10, 2013, 04:11:15 pm
I also think time of day (like before 7pm) and nature of establishment (is it a bar only or a restaurant with a bar) should factor in the decision as well. Also, baby carriers (strapping them to you) and breastfeeding help keep the baby quiet.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 10, 2013, 03:16:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 10, 2013, 02:59:24 pm
My five year old actually asked me if we could go on the Dogfish tour the next time we go to the beach.

She went on the Heavy Seas tour when she was two or three and sketched in her sketch book the whole time.

And as I said before, she's been fine in breweries and pubs in the US and around the world.

It really depends on the kid. Some are very well behaved and can handle it, some are complete shitshows. It also probably helps to only have one.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 10, 2013, 02:47:32 pm
Oh on the Heavy Seas tour two people brought babies with them.  One of the babies cried the whole tour.  Why would you bring a baby to a brewery tour.  And this comes after friday night when I was at a pub with live music and someone at the table next to me had a baby that was crying the whole time.  Get a sitter or stay home.  Geez.

Anyway my next brewery tour is Flying Dog and I saw this and smiled:

All brewery tours and events are for those 21 or older. Please do not bring children.

There is a difference between five year olds and babies.  Don't bring a baby to a bar or a brewery tour.  Well I know some five year olds that have no business being on a brewery tour. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 10, 2013, 04:38:53 pm
beer gets me tipsy quicker.  does that happen with age.  my age, not the beers age.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 10, 2013, 04:47:05 pm
Quote from: slappy on June 10, 2013, 02:51:41 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 08, 2013, 09:23:42 am
One of them is more expensive than six.

Show me a pub with that kind of markup.

I'll stick with sporting events since we're talking about them and not pubs.
A can of Molson will cost you $13 at the St. Pete Times Forum (now Tampa Bay Times Forum). Bottled water is $5.

(http://www.saveonbrew.com/system/html/2012%20-%202013%20NHL%20Arenas-6b4b066a.jpg)

I don't see Verizon Center on that list.  There are 30 teams in the NHL and 30 arenas listed on that graphic.  What gives?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 10, 2013, 07:13:29 pm
Reporting from the dinner table...yes Heady Topper straight from the can goes well with half price Papa Johns (thanks, Nats).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 10, 2013, 08:02:18 pm
stop eating that so called "pizza."  tell your kids to stop, too.  they and you will live longer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on June 10, 2013, 11:47:49 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 10, 2013, 04:47:05 pm
I don't see Verizon Center on that list.  There are 30 teams in the NHL and 30 arenas listed on that graphic.  What gives?
I'm guessing the creator didn't like the former Southeast division as all their arena names are old. It's labelled as Us Airways arena. Also RBC arena is now PNC arena, BankAtlantic is now BB&T arena. St. Pete times forum is now Tampa Bay Times forum,
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 11, 2013, 12:06:10 am
nice observation. 

atlanta, tampa bay, florida, washington, and carolina. what a thrilling division.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 11, 2013, 09:20:34 am
Anybody have a recommendation of a "must have" beer(s) that I should look for at my one beer shop stop in NYC that I can't get here? Maybe Ithaca Flower Power? What else?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: moeszyslak on June 11, 2013, 09:51:06 am
They also have the Izod Center on there and the Devils play at the Prudential Center now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 11, 2013, 09:59:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 11, 2013, 09:20:34 am
Anybody have a recommendation of a "must have" beer(s) that I should look for at my one beer shop stop in NYC that I can't get here? Maybe Ithaca Flower Power? What else?

Genesse Cream Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 11, 2013, 10:01:31 am
Growing up in upstate NY, I probably already had that as a teenager. No need to repeat teenage mistakes!

Quote from: atomicfront on June 11, 2013, 09:59:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 11, 2013, 09:20:34 am
Anybody have a recommendation of a "must have" beer(s) that I should look for at my one beer shop stop in NYC that I can't get here? Maybe Ithaca Flower Power? What else?

Genesse Cream Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 11, 2013, 10:06:17 am
i believe you can get Captain Lawrence in NYC.  their specialty beers are pretty solid.  i recently had the Golden Delicious, t'was really nice. http://www.captainlawrencebrewing.com/the-beers/#specialty
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on June 11, 2013, 12:30:50 pm
Another Stone "Enjoy by" is out.  This one's dated 7/4/13.  Someone was kind enough to post that Gilly's in Rockville had the last installment.  They're not sure if they are getting this one.  If anyone hears of its arrival in this area (preferably upper NW), please post!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 11, 2013, 12:55:16 pm
Even better, Stone Ruinten is onthe way!

http://beerstreetjournal.com/stone-10th-anniversary-ruination-returns-as-ruinten-ipa-june-17th/


Quote from: Bagley on June 11, 2013, 12:30:50 pm
Another Stone "Enjoy by" is out.  This one's dated 7/4/13.  Someone was kind enough to post that Gilly's in Rockville had the last installment.  They're not sure if they are getting this one.  If anyone hears of its arrival in this area (preferably upper NW), please post!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on June 11, 2013, 12:59:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 11, 2013, 09:20:34 am
Anybody have a recommendation of a "must have" beer(s) that I should look for at my one beer shop stop in NYC that I can't get here? Maybe Ithaca Flower Power? What else?

I believe Crooked Stave has arrived in NYC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 11, 2013, 01:37:28 pm
Definitely on my list. Despite my distaste for sours.

And on my list of places to visit on my 2014 Colorado vacation I'm dreaming up.


Quote from: Lazer Guided Melodies on June 11, 2013, 12:59:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 11, 2013, 09:20:34 am
Anybody have a recommendation of a "must have" beer(s) that I should look for at my one beer shop stop in NYC that I can't get here? Maybe Ithaca Flower Power? What else?

I believe Crooked Stave has arrived in NYC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on June 11, 2013, 01:38:31 pm
AleSmith Speedway Stout is readily available in NYC. I've seen Cigar City Marshal Zhukov Stout up there too but I think that's seasonal.

The new Enjoy By is not distributed in this area.

http://www.stonebrewing.com/enjoyby/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 11, 2013, 01:52:32 pm
Speedway Stout. Yum. Already have a couple aging in my basement.

Yep, Cigar City is on my mental list. Didn't see anything other than their basic stuff the last time I was in NYC a couple years ago.


Quote from: fatskippy on June 11, 2013, 01:38:31 pm
AleSmith Speedway Stout is readily available in NYC. I've seen Cigar City Marshal Zhukov Stout up there too but I think that's seasonal.

The new Enjoy By is not distributed in this area.

http://www.stonebrewing.com/enjoyby/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on June 12, 2013, 11:33:49 am
Pleasantly surprised last night to find Avery Maharaja on tap at Matchbox (Chinatown)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 12, 2013, 11:47:06 am
Steelhead Double India Pale Ale

Avery The Reverend

Sixpoint Resin Doulble IPA

Yards  Love Stout

the place i buy beer has these new beers on tap.  which should i get today for my growler?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 12, 2013, 12:33:41 pm
of that list i've only tried the Reverend.  at little on the sweet side but a nice BDSA/quad.  it's a sipper, not a chugger.  downing more than 2 glasses is a chore, but at that high ABV maybe that's a good thing.

i've been wanting to try Resin.  apparently it's a good hop bomb.  that's the one i'd probably go with, to satisfy my curiosity and my need for hops. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 12, 2013, 01:02:57 pm
Avery and Sixpoint are definitely the superior breweries. Unless you like one style significantly better than the other, I'd say go with the Resin.

Quote from: walkonby on June 12, 2013, 11:47:06 am
Steelhead Double India Pale Ale

Avery The Reverend

Sixpoint Resin Doulble IPA

Yards  Love Stout

the place i buy beer has these new beers on tap.  which should i get today for my growler?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 12, 2013, 01:32:37 pm
Coincidentally, I'm going to NYC the same weekend as SAVOR in NYC. Totally skipping it and anything associated with it.

http://www.dcbeer.com/news/yeah-we-said-it-savor-ticket-sales-prove-dc-better-beer-town
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 12, 2013, 05:15:18 pm
puke.

if i'm from anywhere but DC, i'm reading that post and laughing my ass off.  who cares how we are as a beer city?  i like dcbeer, and their website does provide a great service to the city, but it's like they've been waiting for the right time to announce DC as this grand fucking place where all everyone cares about is beer.

NYC kids are skipping Savor because the price tag is ridiculous.  nothing else.  i went last year, and i swore i would never miss another one because I had so much fun. then I saw the price tag this year and said "fuck that". 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 13, 2013, 09:02:21 pm
Andescher coming to America!

http://beerpulse.com/2013/06/andechs-makes-u-s-debut-next-week-in-new-york-city-630/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 14, 2013, 10:15:57 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 13, 2013, 09:02:21 pm
Andescher coming to America!

http://beerpulse.com/2013/06/andechs-makes-u-s-debut-next-week-in-new-york-city-630/

I thought you didn't like German Beer?

I was at the theater the other night and they had Guiness, Blue Moon, Magic Hat #9, Nattie Boh, Stella, and Amstel Light as the beer selections and I was like which Beer would James Ford drink in this situation? Then I realized he wouldn't pay 4.50 for a bottle of beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 14, 2013, 10:49:17 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 14, 2013, 10:15:57 am
I was at the theater the other night and they had Guiness, Blue Moon, Magic Hat #9, Nattie Boh, Stella, and Amstel Light as the beer selections and I was like which Beer would James Ford drink in this situation? Then I realized he wouldn't pay 4.50 for a bottle of beer. 

i think it's so cute you think of James Ford in your free time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 14, 2013, 11:12:11 am
Some German beer is very good. Anything from Andescher falls into that category. Will be good if they land here in DC, but a little said because it would make a trip to Kloster Andechs a little less special.

Given those choices I would easily pick Guinness.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 14, 2013, 10:15:57 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 13, 2013, 09:02:21 pm
Andescher coming to America!

http://beerpulse.com/2013/06/andechs-makes-u-s-debut-next-week-in-new-york-city-630/

I thought you didn't like German Beer?

I was at the theater the other night and they had Guiness, Blue Moon, Magic Hat #9, Nattie Boh, Stella, and Amstel Light as the beer selections and I was like which Beer would James Ford drink in this situation? Then I realized he wouldn't pay 4.50 for a bottle of beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 16, 2013, 09:12:27 pm
Had two oskar blues brews on tap Vienna lager which was bland and their imperial red which was god awful.all you could Tate or smell was hops. I couldn't even finish it.  Can't wait until I get to Germany so I won't have to Taste shit beer like it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 17, 2013, 07:48:48 am
Had these beers on draft in NYC (I didn't go to the most beer geeky places, e.g. Torst, or Alewife, which had Cantillon on cask)

Weistephaner Vitus-A
Weistephaner Hefe-A
Lagutinas Little Sumpin Sumpin-A-
Ithaca Flower Power-B+
Ayinger Celebrator Dopplebock-B+
Sierra Nevada Kellerweis-B-

And picked up-

a sixer of Ithaca Flower Power
a four pack of Uinta Dubh (available locally but always seems to be expired, this wasn't)
a quad from Pretty Things
a DIPA from Captain Lawrence, which I promptly dropped and broke upon arrival home
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 17, 2013, 11:12:04 am
i really need to check out more weistephaner (beyond the hefe).  local dude at de vinos was hyping them up.

roommate came in from VT this weekend, echoing much of what James Ford has expressed about the trip. "every beer drinker needs to go up there at least once."  Got to drink plenty of hill farmstead, heady topper, jacks abbey and a few he collected in trades.  anyways, the list:

HFS Society & Solitude #3
Grassroots/HFS Legitimacy
Jacks Abbey BA Framinghammer (the best of the night, besides heady of course)
Almanac Farmer's Reserve No. 4
Heady

i've got a nice stash right now of OTWOA, lunch, and heady. may have to do a side-by-side comparison.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 11:14:35 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 17, 2013, 07:48:48 am
Had these beers on draft in NYC (I didn't go to the most beer geeky places, e.g. Torst, or Alewife, which had Cantillon on cask)

Weistephaner Vitus-A
Weistephaner Hefe-A
Ayinger Celebrator Dopplebock-B+


Wait a second these are more German beers that you really like.  I am totally confused. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 17, 2013, 01:40:17 pm
I'll give them credit where credit is due. Gemany is definitely in the top 10 countries when is comes to beer quality.

Arguably #1 if you're just going by Axis countries from WWII. Though Italy does have a burgeoning craft beer scene...


Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 11:14:35 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 17, 2013, 07:48:48 am
Had these beers on draft in NYC (I didn't go to the most beer geeky places, e.g. Torst, or Alewife, which had Cantillon on cask)

Weistephaner Vitus-A
Weistephaner Hefe-A
Ayinger Celebrator Dopplebock-B+


Wait a second these are more German beers that you really like.  I am totally confused. 


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 03:37:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 17, 2013, 01:40:17 pm
I'll give them credit where credit is due. Gemany is definitely in the top 10 countries when is comes to beer quality.

Arguably #1 if you're just going by Axis countries from WWII. Though Italy does have a burgeoning craft beer scene...


Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 11:14:35 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 17, 2013, 07:48:48 am
Had these beers on draft in NYC (I didn't go to the most beer geeky places, e.g. Torst, or Alewife, which had Cantillon on cask)

Weistephaner Vitus-A
Weistephaner Hefe-A
Ayinger Celebrator Dopplebock-B+


Wait a second these are more German beers that you really like.  I am totally confused. 


Top 2 with Belgium.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 17, 2013, 04:23:23 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 03:37:33 pm
Top 2 with Belgium.

what's your favorite belgian and german beers?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 17, 2013, 05:13:53 pm
if founders double trouble was year round . . . i would only drink it.  that is sad i know, but so good it is.  found a shit load of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 07:19:30 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2013, 04:23:23 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 03:37:33 pm
Top 2 with Belgium.

what's your favorite belgian and german beers?

Hofbräu Münchner Weisse
St Bernadus Pater
Leffe Blonde. 
Hoegarden
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 18, 2013, 12:12:02 am
i'm interested to hear what your top beers are when you return.

i wonder what regions and countries mean in the big picture. for the large part, you could put the region aside for those four. you could say that for most beers, these days.  berliner weisse, a classic german style, is now readily available as most craft beer stores. you could get a local wheat beer pretty anywhere.  blah blah blah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 18, 2013, 01:45:10 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 07:19:30 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2013, 04:23:23 pm
what's your favorite belgian and german beers?

Hofbräu Münchner Weisse
St Bernadus Pater
Leffe Blonde. 
Hoegarden

atomicfront, i dare you to read this in a year and not laugh at yourself. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 07:57:44 am
When you get a chance, do yourself a favor and try these Belgians:

Wit: St Bernardus
Saison: Saison Dupont
Belgian Pale Ale: Duvel, Orval, La Chouffe
Tripel: Karmeliet, Westmalle, St Bernardus
Dubbel:  Westmalle, Chimay Red
Belgian Dark Ale: Gouden Carolus Blau, Rochefort 8, Chimay Blue
Quadruppel: St Bernardus 12, Rochefort 10

Note: Not all of these are readilyavailable on draft. Belgians seem to be more about bottled beer than they are draft beer.

Most, if not all of those, should be available in any good beer store. If your beer store doesn't sell most of those, find a better beer store. If you find that those are too expensive and are willing to take a chance on North American American made Belgian beers at a better price, Ommegang, Allagash, and Unibroue all measure up (or come close). Stillwater and the Bruery also do Belgian styles very well, but they're probably no cheaper than the real thing.

As far as German beers go, try anything by Weistephaner, Schneider, Aecth Schlenkerla and Ayinger.Again, all should be available at any good beer store.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 07:19:30 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2013, 04:23:23 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 03:37:33 pm
Top 2 with Belgium.

what's your favorite belgian and german beers?

Hofbräu Münchner Weisse
St Bernadus Pater
Leffe Blonde. 
Hoegarden
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 10:19:28 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 18, 2013, 01:45:10 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 07:19:30 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2013, 04:23:23 pm
what's your favorite belgian and german beers?

Hofbräu Münchner Weisse
St Bernadus Pater
Leffe Blonde. 
Hoegarden

atomicfront, i dare you to read this in a year and not laugh at yourself. 

Why would I laugh at myself.  I have been drinking good beer all my life.  Do you think my tastes will change in a year at my age?  Hoegarden and Leffe are available at the ball park on draft.  Draft beer is better.  I enjoy them and fortunately not many others do as I can walk right up and get a beer any time I want.  I love Leffe Blonde.  The smell is amazing.  The other beers get good reviews even on Beer Advocate which you guys love so I don't get your comment at all.  My favorite beer isn't going to be some beer I can only get on draft at one bar in 100 miles.  That wouldn't make sense at all. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 10:23:45 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 07:57:44 am
When you get a chance, do yourself a favor and try these Belgians:

Wit: St Bernardus
Saison: Saison Dupont
Belgian Pale Ale: Duvel, Orval, La Chouffe
Tripel: Karmeliet, Westmalle, St Bernardus
Dubbel:  Westmalle, Chimay Red
Belgian Dark Ale: Gouden Carolus Blau, Rochefort 8, Chimay Blue
Quadruppel: St Bernardus 12, Rochefort 10

Note: Not all of these are readilyavailable on draft. Belgians seem to be more about bottled beer than they are draft beer.

Most, if not all of those, should be available in any good beer store. If your beer store doesn't sell most of those, find a better beer store. If you find that those are too expensive and are willing to take a chance on North American American made Belgian beers at a better price, Ommegang, Allagash, and Unibroue all measure up (or come close). Stillwater and the Bruery also do Belgian styles very well, but they're probably no cheaper than the real thing.

As far as German beers go, try anything by Weistephaner, Schneider, Aecth Schlenkerla and Ayinger.Again, all should be available at any good beer store.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 07:19:30 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2013, 04:23:23 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 17, 2013, 03:37:33 pm
Top 2 with Belgium.

what's your favorite belgian and german beers?

Hofbräu Münchner Weisse
St Bernadus Pater
Leffe Blonde. 
Hoegarden

I have had almost all of the St Bernardus brews.  I have had Duvel many of time as it is everywhere.  It is good but not my favorite.  My wife had an Ayinger Heifweizzen last night.  I took a taste but wasn't that impressed.  Had Allagash white a lot and I love it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 18, 2013, 10:24:39 am
Quote from: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 10:19:28 am
My favorite beer isn't going to be some beer I can only get on draft at one bar in 100 miles.  That wouldn't make sense at all. 

i see what you're saying, but i wouldn't judge some1 who listed their favorite beer as something you only could get at one bar in 100 miles.

similarly, what you say makes sense.  you see leffe and hoegaarden everywhere, and that easily could make it someones favorite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 10:25:13 am
You don't have to go to some bar a 100 miles away to find the best Belgian beer. As I said, almost all of the best Belgian beers are available in a bottle from any good local beer store.

If you go to a really good pub in Belgium, they might at most have a half dozen beers on draft and 500+ different beers in a bottle.

Clearly the Belgians themselves don't think their beer is better on draft than from a bottle. Neither should you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 18, 2013, 10:27:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 07:57:44 am
Note: Not all of these are readilyavailable on draft. Belgians seem to be more about bottled beer than they are draft beer.

most belgians benefit from some aging.  few people are going to buy a keg and cellar it.  in fact just about every belgian brewery cellars their bottles for a few months before releasing it (according to BLAM (http://members.brewersassociation.org/store/detail.aspx?id=493)).

price plays a role too: because of the high gravity (i.e. more ingredients), the aging, transpo, etc., belgian beers are going to be more expensive - making the keg more expensive.  bars are typically limited in how many taps they have.  why dedicate a tap to an expensive, lower-volume selling beer when you can put on a beer that moves quickly?

and then there is tradition.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 10:19:28 am
Draft beer is better.

depends on the beer.  lagers, IPAs, pale ales, and the like are generally better on draft.  imperial stouts, big belgians, barley wines, etc. are better in bottles because then need to age.  same with sour beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 11:21:59 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 18, 2013, 10:27:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 07:57:44 am
Note: Not all of these are readilyavailable on draft. Belgians seem to be more about bottled beer than they are draft beer.

most belgians benefit from some aging.  few people are going to buy a keg and cellar it.  in fact just about every belgian brewery cellars their bottles for a few months before releasing it (according to BLAM (http://members.brewersassociation.org/store/detail.aspx?id=493)).

price plays a role too: because of the high gravity (i.e. more ingredients), the aging, transpo, etc., belgian beers are going to be more expensive - making the keg more expensive.  bars are typically limited in how many taps they have.  why dedicate a tap to an expensive, lower-volume selling beer when you can put on a beer that moves quickly?

and then there is tradition.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 10:19:28 am
Draft beer is better.

depends on the beer.  lagers, IPAs, pale ales, and the like are generally better on draft.  imperial stouts, big belgians, barley wines, etc. are better in bottles because then need to age.  same with sour beers.

That might be true about bottle conditioned beers but I doubt a pasteurized brew that was artificially carbonated is going to get better with age.  Most likely the opposite as it sits on your local liquor store shelf for two years before someone finally gets around to buying it.  Leffe Blonde is just ok in a bottle but is awesome on draft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 11:31:14 am
Even if all Belgians were readily available on draft, who has the money to try them all on draft ? They are expensive enough just buying them and trying them at home.

But of course Leffe Blonde is an AB-INBEV beer, so cost is much lower.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 18, 2013, 12:01:10 pm
so who's been to Merriweather recently?  this will be my first time back there in months.  any interesting beers on offer? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 18, 2013, 12:10:14 pm
i always thought the pinball machines at merriweather . . . are the stupidest things i have ever seen at a venue.  what other distractions from the show you paid to go to, can they have?  how about a comedy tent? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 18, 2013, 12:30:15 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 18, 2013, 12:01:10 pm
so who's been to Merriweather recently?  this will be my first time back there in months.  any interesting beers on offer? 

i was there sunday.

i had a duckpin pale ale, and flying dog in-heat wheat (?). it was raging bitch right before that, but i just missed the last pour.  $11 and $10, respectively.  both were purchased over on the right side at a beer truck.

i saw a goose island stand which was not operating. not likely it would have interesting offerings, but who knows. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 12:45:33 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 18, 2013, 12:10:14 pm
i always thought the pinball machines at merriweather . . . are the stupidest things i have ever seen at a venue.  what other distractions from the show you paid to go to, can they have?  how about a comedy tent? 

I love the pinball machines.  It was great the time Explosions in the Sky was one of the openers for Flaming Lips.  It gave me something to do during their set.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 12:47:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 11:31:14 am
Even if all Belgians were readily available on draft, who has the money to try them all on draft ? They are expensive enough just buying them and trying them at home.

But of course Leffe Blonde is an AB-INBEV beer, so cost is much lower.

Plus it is at a baseball game where all the beers are 8 bucks.  So you could get a Leffe Blonde for 8 bucks or a Coor Light for 8 bucks.  And if it weren't Inbev it wouldn't be available at the game. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 12:48:50 pm
Where do you live and where do you shop for beer?

Quote from: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 12:47:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 11:31:14 am
Even if all Belgians were readily available on draft, who has the money to try them all on draft ? They are expensive enough just buying them and trying them at home.

But of course Leffe Blonde is an AB-INBEV beer, so cost is much lower.

Plus it is at a baseball game where all the beers are 8 bucks.  So you could get a Leffe Blonde for 8 bucks or a Coor Light for 8 bucks.  And if it weren't Inbev it wouldn't be available at the game. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 04:53:04 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 12:48:50 pm
Where do you live and where do you shop for beer?

Quote from: atomicfront on June 18, 2013, 12:47:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 11:31:14 am
Even if all Belgians were readily available on draft, who has the money to try them all on draft ? They are expensive enough just buying them and trying them at home.

But of course Leffe Blonde is an AB-INBEV beer, so cost is much lower.

Plus it is at a baseball game where all the beers are 8 bucks.  So you could get a Leffe Blonde for 8 bucks or a Coor Light for 8 bucks.  And if it weren't Inbev it wouldn't be available at the game. 

The closest liquor store to my house is Wells Discount Liquor in Baltimore. It is also probably the best liquor store in Baltimore area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 18, 2013, 04:57:20 pm
everytime i go into the city, i check out the liquor stores.  years ago, i would have never gone in any of them, because i dont understand people that stay in hotels and buy liquor.  but now, they are awesome locations of the best selections of beers, and sometime they have something forgotten about, where you are smiling like a stupid kid with it all the way to the counter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 18, 2013, 05:21:35 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 18, 2013, 12:01:10 pm
so who's been to Merriweather recently?  this will be my first time back there in months.  any interesting beers on offer? 

They had Duckpin and DC Brau 24 oz-ers for $11 at the National show.  Across from the pinball machines if I recall correctly. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on June 18, 2013, 05:33:44 pm
Just found out that Ballast Point is now available in Maryland.  Too me, that could only mean one thing.......  SCULPIN!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 06:48:11 pm
Ah, my second favorite IPA,  after Heady.

Make sure you try the equally amazing imperial porter from Ballast Point, Victory at Sea.

Quote from: Bagley on June 18, 2013, 05:33:44 pm
Just found out that Ballast Point is now available in Maryland.  Too me, that could only mean one thing.......  SCULPIN!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 08:05:41 pm
Max's, please move to DC.


June 21-23, 2013

MAX'S RARE & OBSCURE PART 6
JUNE 21-23, 2013
11AM-2 AM EACH DAY
NO ENTRANCE FEE

We will have 30 Drafts Friday the 21st, 30 More drafts Saturday 22nd and 20 more drafts Sunday the 23rd.
Also featuring over 40 Rare bottles

These drafts and bottles will be from all over the world and may never be seen again.

THE DRAFT LIST: We will add more drafts as they come in....
Alvinne Morphues Wild Undressed
Amager/Mikkeller Hr Frederikson Voesel Brunch
Bad Attitude The Dude
Blue Mountain Coffee Chocolate Dark Hallow
Bourganel Biere Aux Myrtilles
De Dochter Peat Embrasse Arbeg
De Glazen Toren Jan De Lichte Zymatore
De Witte Amarillo Sun
Dieu Du Ciel Blanche Du Paradis
Dunham/Kisseyer Leo's Early Breakfast
Firestone Walker Parabola
Firestone Walker XVI Anniversary
Gales Conquest Masterbrew Zymatore in Pinot Noir Barrels
Harviestoun Ola Dubh 12 Yr
Harviestoun Ola Dubh 21 yr
Het Nest Oak Aged Kleveretien
Magic Rock/Kissmeyer Salty Kiss
Naparbier Pumpkin Tsar
Struise Weltmerz
Struise Ypres
Thornbridge/Terrapin Coalition
Trou Du Diable Dabai Pillee
Trou Du Diable Mactavis
Trou Du Diable P'Tite Butuese
Wadworth 6X
LambrickX
Bahnhof Berliner Weisse w/ barley & Oats
Bahnhof Berliner weisse w/ Barley & Potatoes
Elysian Dicks Pick #2
Evil Twin/Westbrook/Local Option Plastic man
La Socarrada
Emelisse Innovation series: Creme Brulee Stout
Emelisse innovation Series: Smoke Coffee Porter
Omnipollo Agamemnon
Local Option Schmetterling Gose
Allagash Golden Brett
CASKS
Union Duckpin w/ Earl Grey Tea
Union Duckpin w/ Lapsang Souchong Tea
Union Duckpin w/ Darjeeling Tea
Union Duckpin w/ Oolong Tea
Union Duckpin w/ Jasmine Green Tea
Plus many More to come..............................................................
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 18, 2013, 11:23:34 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 18, 2013, 12:30:15 pm
i had a duckpin pale ale, and flying dog in-heat wheat (?). it was raging bitch right before that, but i just missed the last pour.  $11 and $10, respectively.  both were purchased over on the right side at a beer truck.

i saw a goose island stand which was not operating. not likely it would have interesting offerings, but who knows. 

they had tha GI IPA and a summer ale of some sort.  i tried the IPA, disappointing.  all bitterness, very little hop flavor or aroma (or anything else for that matter).  the lack of hop character made it boring.  i might give this one another try if i'm short of options in the future, but not rushing back.

after i bought my IPA i noticed a hand-drawn sign on a stand that said "raging bitch".  might have went for that had i known, then again i wanted to try the GI.

Quote from: Shemp on June 18, 2013, 05:21:35 pm
They had Duckpin and DC Brau 24 oz-ers for $11 at the National show.  Across from the pinball machines if I recall correctly. 

i saw the Duckpin, i'll be trying when i'm back there for B&S.  which DC Brau did they have?  i didn't see any on offer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 18, 2013, 11:28:57 pm
this festival isn't nearly as interesting at the blowout at Max's, but it is closer:


Drink the District: American Beer & Wine Festival
East Lawn at Yards Park ? Washington, DC

    Saturday, June 29 ? 12:00PM, 6:00PM
    Sunday, June 30 ? 12:00PM

What you get

    4 Hours of Unlimited Tastings of 100+ American Wines & 50+ American Beers
    Full Pours of 4 Select Wines & 2 Select Beers
    Live Music, Lawn Games & More Than a Dozen Food Trucks

Celebrate the coming Fourth of July with more than 100 wines and 50 beers all made right here in the USA at Drink the District: Red White & Brew, held on Saturday, June 29 and Sunday, June 30 at the East Lawn of Yards Park.

Between unlimited tastings and a few full pours of patriotic beverages, dive into DC's most delicious food trucks, and enjoy awesome lawn games and live music on the main stage. 

Tickets are currently $30 at https://livingsocial.com/events/cities/1709-washington-d-c-citywide/716692-drink-the-district-american-beer-wine-festival
The price for general admission tickets will go up as it gets closer to the event ($50 day-of).

Breweries revealed so far: Bold Rock Hard Cider | Redd's Apple Ale | Brewery Ommegang | Boulevard Brewing Company | Starr Hill Brewing Company | Sierra Nevada | Goose Island Beer Co. | Jacob Leinenkugel Brewing Co. | Magic Hat Brewing Company | Devils Backbone Outpost Brewery |

http://drinkthedistrict.com/
https://www.facebook.com/DrinkTheDistrict
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 19, 2013, 07:01:56 am
coincidentally and serendipitously I will be spending saturday sunday and monday in Baltimore :-)

Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 08:05:41 pm
Max's, please move to DC.


June 21-23, 2013

MAX'S RARE & OBSCURE PART 6
JUNE 21-23, 2013
11AM-2 AM EACH DAY
NO ENTRANCE FEE

We will have 30 Drafts Friday the 21st, 30 More drafts Saturday 22nd and 20 more drafts Sunday the 23rd.
Also featuring over 40 Rare bottles

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on June 19, 2013, 09:23:58 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 06:48:11 pm
Ah, my second favorite IPA,  after Heady.

Make sure you try the equally amazing imperial porter from Ballast Point, Victory at Sea.

Quote from: Bagley on June 18, 2013, 05:33:44 pm
Just found out that Ballast Point is now available in Maryland.  Too me, that could only mean one thing.......  SCULPIN!

but Heady's a double.......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 19, 2013, 09:32:35 am
Quote from: Bagley on June 18, 2013, 05:33:44 pm
Just found out that Ballast Point is now available in Maryland.  Too me, that could only mean one thing.......  SCULPIN!

I've yet to find it for under $16.99 a six pack in MD. It's good, but not that good IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on June 19, 2013, 09:36:48 am
If you go to Max's get there EARLY.  I used to go to their Belgian festival before it got way too crowded to attempt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 19, 2013, 10:54:38 am
Consider yourself lucky. For some reason, a dollar or two more than that in VA. Yet, $15.99 in NYC, DC, and Chicago.

That's still cheaper than OTWOA, and Sculpin is better than OTWOA, IMO.

Quote from: Yada on June 19, 2013, 09:32:35 am
Quote from: Bagley on June 18, 2013, 05:33:44 pm
Just found out that Ballast Point is now available in Maryland.  Too me, that could only mean one thing.......  SCULPIN!

I've yet to find it for under $16.99 a six pack in MD. It's good, but not that good IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 19, 2013, 11:35:35 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 19, 2013, 10:54:38 am
Consider yourself lucky. For some reason, a dollar or two more than that in VA. Yet, $15.99 in NYC, DC, and Chicago.

That's still cheaper than OTWOA, and Sculpin is better than OTWOA, IMO.

Quote from: Yada on June 19, 2013, 09:32:35 am
Quote from: Bagley on June 18, 2013, 05:33:44 pm
Just found out that Ballast Point is now available in Maryland.  Too me, that could only mean one thing.......  SCULPIN!

I've yet to find it for under $16.99 a six pack in MD. It's good, but not that good IMO.

What's the big deal?  A dollar more for a six pack is nothing. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 19, 2013, 11:39:01 am
Quote from: K8teebug on June 19, 2013, 09:36:48 am
If you go to Max's get there EARLY.  I used to go to their Belgian festival before it got way too crowded to attempt.

Will this be as crowed as the Belgian Festival?  I would think that would be a much bigger draw.  Of course every time I go to Max's most of the people are drinking cheap domestics.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 19, 2013, 12:06:26 pm
I read on a beer advocate forum that typically it's not as crowded as the Belgian Fest, but still crowded.

You are right about most people there drinking the cheap domestics. What a shame. I guess if it helps keep them in business and they keep the good stuff going as well, then bravo.
Quote from: atomicfront on June 19, 2013, 11:39:01 am
Quote from: K8teebug on June 19, 2013, 09:36:48 am
If you go to Max's get there EARLY.  I used to go to their Belgian festival before it got way too crowded to attempt.

Will this be as crowed as the Belgian Festival?  I would think that would be a much bigger draw.  Of course every time I go to Max's most of the people are drinking cheap domestics.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 07:25:35 pm
Final list for this weekend at Max's.

Atomic, you have no excuse. You must go to this.

DRAFT LIST:

ON CASK

Union Duckpin w/Earl grey tea

Union Duckpin w/Oolong Tea

Union Duckpin w/Jasmine Green Tea

Union Duckpin w/Darjeeling Tea

Union Duckpin w/Lapsang Souchong Tea

ON DRAFT

Alvinne Morpheus Wild Undressed

Allagash Golden Brett

Amager/Mikkeller Hr Frederikson Voesel Brunch

Bad Attitude The Dude

Bad Attitude Kurt

Bahnhof Berliner Weisse w/ Barley & Oats

Bahnhof Berliner Weisse w/ Barley & Potatoes

Ballast Point Fathom

Beer Here Harwood

BFM Abbaye Saint Bon Chien 2012

Blue Mountain CCDH

Blue Mountain Barrel Aged imperial IPA

Burley Oak Delight

Boulevard Saison Brett

Bourgandel Biere Aux Myrtilles

Bruxton Axe Edge

De Dochter Peat Embrasse Arbeg

De Glazen Toren Jan De Lichte Zymatore

De Witte Amarillo Sun

De Proef Flemish Primitive Surly Bird

De Ranke XXX Bitter

Djaevlebryg Schopenhauers Vilje

Dieu Du Ciel Blanche Du Paradis

Dunham/Kissmeyer Leo?s Early Breakfast

Elysian Dicks Picks #2: Woodroff Maibock

Emelisse Innovation Series: Crème Brulee Stout

Emelisse Innovation Series: Smoked Coffee Porter

Evil Twin/Westbrook/Local Option Plastic Man

Evolution Fall Migration

Firestone Walker Parabola

Firestone Walker XVI Anniversary

Flying Dog Pineapple Saison

Gales Conquest Masterbrew Zymatore in Pinot barrels

Harviestoun Ola Dubh 12 yr

Harviestoun Ola Dubh 21 Yr

Het Nest Oak Aged Kleveretien

Het Nest Dead Man Wine Barrel

Het Nest Dead Man Bourbon barrel

Hofstetten Granit Bock Zymatore

Hook Norton Flagship

Kissmeyer/Moonlight Foreign Influence

La Soccarada

LambrickX De Troch

Local Option Schmetterling Gose

Magic Rock/Kissmeyer Salty Kiss

Mikkeller/Crooked Moon Tattoo

Mikkeller SpontanCherry

Mikkeller 1000 IBU

Mikkeller Mexas Ranger

Naparbier Pumpkin Tsar

Nogne O Global Pale

Nogne O Pumpkin

Omnipollo Agamemnon

Qhilika Mead Zymatore aged in Shiraz barrels

Sierra Nevada Fungoo

Sierra Nevada Barrel Aged Narwhal

Silly Sour

Struise Weltmerz

Struise Ypres

Struise Cuvee Delphine

Struise Rye Triple Reserva

Struise/Three Floyds Shark Pants

Struise AA Blonde

Thornbridge/Terrapin Coalition

To Ol Fuck Art: This Is Advertising

To Ol Fuck Art:Lets Dance Red Wine Barrel

Trou Diable Dabai Pille

Trou Diable Mactavis

Trou Diable P?tite Butese

Trou Diable Epoque Opaque

Wadworth 6X

Plus a Few More???????????????




BOTTLES:

Fifty Fifty Beige Berheim Wheat

Fifty Fifty Black Evan Williams

Fifty Fifty Blue Old Fitzgerald

Fifty Fifty Green Rittenhouse

Fifty Fifty Purple Elijah Craig

8 Wired Burmaye

8 Wired Mighty Imperial Ale

Allagash Confluence 2009

Allagash FV 13

Apostel Historic Roggenbier

Au Baron Cuvee Des Jonquilles

Avery Beast 2008

B.Nektar Episode 13:B.Nektar Strikes Back

Beer Here Hoptilus

Blaugies/Hill Farmstead la Vermontoise

Bluegrass BBC Barleywine 2002

Boulevard Love Child #3

Cambridge Audacity of Hops

Cambridge Sgt Pepper

Cambridge Tripel Threat

Carnegie Stark Porter 1997

Celestial Mead Blue Ridge Harlot

De Dues Original

De Dues Tocatta

De la Senne/Dieu Du Ciel Kuro Oni

De Molen Spanning & Sensatie

Djaevlebryg Hjul & Stejle

Epic Message in a Bottle

Evil Twin 9th Symphony

Evil Twin Aun mas Café Jesus

Evolution Nouveau Rouge

Evolution Winter Migration 2012

Firestone Walker Sucaba

Firestone Walker XV Anniversary

Harviestoun Ola Dubh 1991

Harviestoun Ola Dubh 30Yr

Hitachino Nest Red Rice 2003

Hofbrouwerijke Anarkriek

Hofbrouwerijke Hofnar Triple

Marble Dobber

Marble/Fullers Old Manchester

Mikkeller Ah Hvad

Mikkeller AK Alive

Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel

Mikkeller Black Tie 2010

Mikkeller Funky E Star Chardonnay barrel

Mikkeller Funk E Star Sauternes Barrel

Mikkeller Sally Fields

Mikkeller Spontanframboos

Naparbier Janis Porter

Naparbier ZZ Amber

North Coast/Rogue/Deschutes Class of 88

Orkney Dark Island Reserve Vintage

Ribelacider

Sam Adams Infinum 2002

Samichlaus 2004

Schalfly 21st Anniversary Single Malt Scottish

To Ol Black Maria

To Ol Udder Means

To Ol Goliant Coffee Stout

To Ol Liquid Confidential Imperial Chili Stout

Trois Dames L?Amoureuse Blanche

Trois Dames L?Amoureuse Rouge

Upright Oyster Stout

Victory Oak Horizontal

Victory White Monkey

Yeastie Boys Gunnamatta

Boulevard Terra Incognita 2012

Bouleavrd Terra Incognita 2013
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 20, 2013, 08:42:19 pm
just how many beers can one person try at these things?  thats why i question big beer selections at any one place in time.  i want to try too many of them, and then i get all drunk in the city and the beers dont taste the same as just enjoying one or two at your sitting and then i forget how many blocks it is back to the hotel, loving the architecture of dc as i continue.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 20, 2013, 09:27:26 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 20, 2013, 08:42:19 pm
just how many beers can one person try at these things?  thats why i question big beer selections at any one place in time.  i want to try too many of them, and then i get all drunk in the city and the beers dont taste the same as just enjoying one or two at your sitting and then i forget how many blocks it is back to the hotel, loving the architecture of dc as i continue.

Yeah that is what I was thinking.  I am going to stop by Union Craft Brewing to do a tasting of their beers.  I could go down to Max's afterwards but how many beer would I drink?  A couple?  And it is crowded it will be a pain.  And if I like a beer odds are I won't be able to drink it again.  The cask thing is cool but as I will be hitting union they probably have casks to try there I would think.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 20, 2013, 09:29:03 pm
tommy fresh... make us proud with your two bachelor degrees and go to max's.

you can do tasters.  there's a couple belgian beers.  there's a couple german beers.  i guarantee you'll masturbate in the bathroom after tasting a few of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 20, 2013, 09:44:38 pm
well thats an advertisement, if ive ever heard one
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 11:27:46 pm
Says who? Heady is 8.0 ABV. Might as well call it an IPA.

Quote from: Bagley on June 19, 2013, 09:23:58 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 18, 2013, 06:48:11 pm
Ah, my second favorite IPA,  after Heady.

Make sure you try the equally amazing imperial porter from Ballast Point, Victory at Sea.

Quote from: Bagley on June 18, 2013, 05:33:44 pm
Just found out that Ballast Point is now available in Maryland.  Too me, that could only mean one thing.......  SCULPIN!

but Heady's a double.......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 12:01:24 am
I've been to Union Craft. You get some decent free beer and you can buy the cool glass. You can do it any Saturday. That beer list at Max's, that doesn't come along just any Saturday. (Neither does my daughter's birthday, so I'll be drinking a Heady Topper at my daughter's birthday party.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 09:32:50 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 12:01:24 am
I've been to Union Craft. You get some decent free beer and you can buy the cool glass. You can do it any Saturday. That beer list at Max's, that doesn't come along just any Saturday. (Neither does my daughter's birthday, so I'll be drinking a Heady Topper at my daughter's birthday party.)

I have been to Max's a million times. It is fun if you are single but my wife frowns upon it when I talk to other girls. I would rather go to Union Craft. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 09:49:40 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 11:27:46 pm
Says who? Heady is 8.0 ABV. Might as well call it an IPA.
 
the Beer Judge Certification Program (BJCP), that's who ;D  the style guide defines american IPAs as having an ABV of 5.5 ? 7.5%, while imperial IPAs are 7.5 ? 10% ABV.  http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style14.php#1b

Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 09:32:50 am
It is fun if you are single but my wife frowns upon it when I talk to other girls.

big tough 6'4" guy who was 4 years old in another country lets his wife decide where he can hang out? ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 10:15:04 am
Why not take your wife to Union Craft? Between the two of you in a couple of hours, you could probably share at least a dozen 4-oz tasters (depending on which beers you shoose) and still be ok to drive home.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 09:32:50 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 12:01:24 am
I've been to Union Craft. You get some decent free beer and you can buy the cool glass. You can do it any Saturday. That beer list at Max's, that doesn't come along just any Saturday. (Neither does my daughter's birthday, so I'll be drinking a Heady Topper at my daughter's birthday party.)

I have been to Max's a million times. It is fun if you are single but my wife frowns upon it when I talk to other girls. I would rather go to Union Craft. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 10:58:48 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 09:49:40 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 11:27:46 pm
Says who? Heady is 8.0 ABV. Might as well call it an IPA.
 
the Beer Judge Certification Program (BJCP), that's who ;D  the style guide defines american IPAs as having an ABV of 5.5 ? 7.5%, while imperial IPAs are 7.5 ? 10% ABV.  http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style14.php#1b

Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 09:32:50 am
It is fun if you are single but my wife frowns upon it when I talk to other girls.

big tough 6'4" guy who was 4 years old in another country lets his wife decide where he can hang out? ;D

I am 6' 2" and if my wife is with my she can help decide where we can hang out.  I am sure she wouldn't mind going to Max's. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 21, 2013, 11:10:31 am
yeah . . . im the one who is six four around here, and i like to hang out.  get it, i said 'hang out.'
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 11:23:52 am
Union Craft was quite crowded the one time I was there. That stands to reason since they are giving away free beer, after all (and they actually give you nice size samples for the price).

One thing of note for you is that I heard Max's has now banned kids at all times (they used to let them in at certain times, though not for special events like this), whereas Union Craft was full of kids when i was there.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 10:58:48 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 09:49:40 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 11:27:46 pm
Says who? Heady is 8.0 ABV. Might as well call it an IPA.
 
the Beer Judge Certification Program (BJCP), that's who ;D  the style guide defines american IPAs as having an ABV of 5.5 ? 7.5%, while imperial IPAs are 7.5 ? 10% ABV.  http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style14.php#1b

Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 09:32:50 am
It is fun if you are single but my wife frowns upon it when I talk to other girls.

big tough 6'4" guy who was 4 years old in another country lets his wife decide where he can hang out? ;D

I am 6' 2" and if my wife is with my she can help decide where we can hang out.  I am sure she wouldn't mind going to Max's. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 01:49:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 11:23:52 am
Union Craft was quite crowded the one time I was there. That stands to reason since they are giving away free beer, after all (and they actually give you nice size samples for the price).

One thing of note for you is that I heard Max's has now banned kids at all times (they used to let them in at certain times, though not for special events like this), whereas Union Craft was full of kids when i was there.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 10:58:48 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 09:49:40 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 11:27:46 pm
Says who? Heady is 8.0 ABV. Might as well call it an IPA.
 
the Beer Judge Certification Program (BJCP), that's who ;D  the style guide defines american IPAs as having an ABV of 5.5 ? 7.5%, while imperial IPAs are 7.5 ? 10% ABV.  http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style14.php#1b

Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 09:32:50 am
It is fun if you are single but my wife frowns upon it when I talk to other girls.

big tough 6'4" guy who was 4 years old in another country lets his wife decide where he can hang out? ;D

I am 6' 2" and if my wife is with my she can help decide where we can hang out.  I am sure she wouldn't mind going to Max's. 

Anyway there is no reason I can't do both.   I am definitely going to Union Craft.  I will see about Max's depending on how I feel. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 21, 2013, 02:27:01 pm
Why are we talking about beer in the loltomicfront thread?

Best Mexican beers that don't require limes.

Modelo
Tecate
Pacifico
Dos Equis

I love drinking multiple of any of those on a really hot day or at a bbq.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 02:52:25 pm
I prefer water, sweet tea, or lemonade for thirst quenching purposes.

Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 02:27:01 pm
Why are we talking about beer in the loltomicfront thread?

Best Mexican beers that don't require limes.

Modelo
Tecate
Pacifico
Dos Equis

I love drinking multiple of any of those on a really hot day or at a bbq.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 02:55:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 02:27:01 pm
Why are we talking about beer in the loltomicfront thread?

Best Mexican beers that don't require limes.

Modelo
Tecate
Pacifico
Dos Equis

I love drinking multiple of any of those on a really hot day or at a bbq.

Modelo is truely are horrible beer.  Dos Equis isn't bad. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 02:57:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 02:27:01 pm
Why are we talking about beer in the loltomicfront thread?

Best Mexican beers that don't require limes.

Modelo
Tecate
Pacifico
Dos Equis

I love drinking multiple of any of those on a really hot day or at a bbq.

negro modelo is the only mexican beer that i can stand.  it almost passes for a dunkel.  unlike every other mexican beer, it has a little taste.

any beer that is only drinkable with a lime in it is not a good beer and should not be drunk.  add lime to water and drink that instead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 03:17:26 pm
Actually, my go-to summer thirst quenching beers are Weistephaner Hefe and Lagunitas Lil Sumpin Sumpin. Yum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 03:36:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 02:57:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 02:27:01 pm
Why are we talking about beer in the loltomicfront thread?

Best Mexican beers that don't require limes.

Modelo
Tecate
Pacifico
Dos Equis

I love drinking multiple of any of those on a really hot day or at a bbq.

negro modelo is the only mexican beer that i can stand.  it almost passes for a dunkel.  unlike every other mexican beer, it has a little taste.

any beer that is only drinkable with a lime in it is not a good beer and should not be drunk.  add lime to water and drink that instead.

I went to a party in PA a while back.  And you have to get cases of beer. So some guy insisted one of the cases was Modelo.  Half way through the party all the other beer was gone but the Modelo was still there as everyone refused to drink it so we had to go back to the Beer store and get more beer.  Next day Modelo was still there. 

And water won't get you buzzed.   And it is like saying there is no reason to put a ton of hops into a beer to make it taste good.  Same principal. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 21, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
sweetcell/jimmyford,

I get the impression you guys don't generally drink more than a couple beers.

What do you do if you go to a BBQ, music festival, event that starts at say noon and it's a party that goes until midnight? You're obviously not crushing 8% beers all day, so what do you do?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 03:51:53 pm
I honestly don't drink any of the aforementioned beers (I may have had Tecate 10+ years ago), but I'm thinking your little story probably isn't the best barometer of the quality one beer as compared to another.

Although it's probably a better indicator than the ratings on Beer Adovocate or Ratebeer right?  ;)

Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 03:36:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 02:57:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 02:27:01 pm
Why are we talking about beer in the loltomicfront thread?

Best Mexican beers that don't require limes.

Modelo
Tecate
Pacifico
Dos Equis

I love drinking multiple of any of those on a really hot day or at a bbq.

negro modelo is the only mexican beer that i can stand.  it almost passes for a dunkel.  unlike every other mexican beer, it has a little taste.

any beer that is only drinkable with a lime in it is not a good beer and should not be drunk.  add lime to water and drink that instead.

I went to a party in PA a while back.  And you have to get cases of beer. So some guy insisted one of the cases was Modelo.  Half way through the party all the other beer was gone but the Modelo was still there as everyone refused to drink it so we had to go back to the Beer store and get more beer.  Next day Modelo was still there. 

And water won't get you buzzed.   And it is like saying there is no reason to put a ton of hops into a beer to make it taste good.  Same principal. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 03:55:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 03:51:53 pm
I honestly don't drink any of the aforementioned beers (I may have had Tecate 10+ years ago), but I'm thinking your little story probably isn't the best barometer of the quality one beer as compared to another.

Although it's probably a better indicator than the ratings on Beer Adovocate or Ratebeer right?  ;)

Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 03:36:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 02:57:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 02:27:01 pm
Why are we talking about beer in the loltomicfront thread?

Best Mexican beers that don't require limes.

Modelo
Tecate
Pacifico
Dos Equis

I love drinking multiple of any of those on a really hot day or at a bbq.

negro modelo is the only mexican beer that i can stand.  it almost passes for a dunkel.  unlike every other mexican beer, it has a little taste.

any beer that is only drinkable with a lime in it is not a good beer and should not be drunk.  add lime to water and drink that instead.

I went to a party in PA a while back.  And you have to get cases of beer. So some guy insisted one of the cases was Modelo.  Half way through the party all the other beer was gone but the Modelo was still there as everyone refused to drink it so we had to go back to the Beer store and get more beer.  Next day Modelo was still there. 

And water won't get you buzzed.   And it is like saying there is no reason to put a ton of hops into a beer to make it taste good.  Same principal. 

If you have no one at a party with 50 or so people and no one is willing to drink the beer due to the taste than yeah it would be more valid than a bunch of pretentious people on Beer Advocate.  After a few hours into a party people are liable to drink just about anything. 

And people had been playing flip cup during those few hours. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 03:58:11 pm
I'm vegetarian so don't go to BBQ's.

With a young child, we generally limit activities to no more than a few hours. So the idea of being anywhere from noon to midnight is a foreign one.

Still, if in such a situation, I generally drink lots of water. I see beer as more of a food or something to complement food, rather than a source of a buzz.

That said, the last time I was at Brennser and Sweetcell's houses, I couldn't help but have a buzz.


Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
sweetcell/jimmyford,

I get the impression you guys don't generally drink more than a couple beers.

What do you do if you go to a BBQ, music festival, event that starts at say noon and it's a party that goes until midnight? You're obviously not crushing 8% beers all day, so what do you do?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 03:59:24 pm
Sounds like a group with really discerning taste buds, for sure bro.

I bet a case of Heady Topper probably would have sat untouched as well.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 03:55:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 03:51:53 pm
I honestly don't drink any of the aforementioned beers (I may have had Tecate 10+ years ago), but I'm thinking your little story probably isn't the best barometer of the quality one beer as compared to another.

Although it's probably a better indicator than the ratings on Beer Adovocate or Ratebeer right?  ;)

Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 03:36:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 02:57:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 02:27:01 pm
Why are we talking about beer in the loltomicfront thread?

Best Mexican beers that don't require limes.

Modelo
Tecate
Pacifico
Dos Equis

I love drinking multiple of any of those on a really hot day or at a bbq.

negro modelo is the only mexican beer that i can stand.  it almost passes for a dunkel.  unlike every other mexican beer, it has a little taste.

any beer that is only drinkable with a lime in it is not a good beer and should not be drunk.  add lime to water and drink that instead.

I went to a party in PA a while back.  And you have to get cases of beer. So some guy insisted one of the cases was Modelo.  Half way through the party all the other beer was gone but the Modelo was still there as everyone refused to drink it so we had to go back to the Beer store and get more beer.  Next day Modelo was still there. 

And water won't get you buzzed.   And it is like saying there is no reason to put a ton of hops into a beer to make it taste good.  Same principal. 

If you have no one at a party with 50 or so people and no one is willing to drink the beer due to the taste than yeah it would be more valid than a bunch of pretentious people on Beer Advocate.  After a few hours into a party people are liable to drink just about anything. 

And people had been playing flip cup during those few hours. 


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 21, 2013, 04:11:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 03:58:11 pm
I'm vegetarian so don't go to BBQ's.

With a young child, we generally limit activities to no more than a few hours. So the idea of being anywhere from noon to midnight is a foreign one.

Still, if in such a situation, I generally drink lots of water. I see beer as more of a food or something to complement food, rather than a source of a buzz.

That said, the last time I was at Brennser and Sweetcell's houses, I couldn't help but have a buzz.


Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
sweetcell/jimmyford,

I get the impression you guys don't generally drink more than a couple beers.

What do you do if you go to a BBQ, music festival, event that starts at say noon and it's a party that goes until midnight? You're obviously not crushing 8% beers all day, so what do you do?

fair enough!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 04:22:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 04:11:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 03:58:11 pm
I'm vegetarian so don't go to BBQ's.

With a young child, we generally limit activities to no more than a few hours. So the idea of being anywhere from noon to midnight is a foreign one.

Still, if in such a situation, I generally drink lots of water. I see beer as more of a food or something to complement food, rather than a source of a buzz.

That said, the last time I was at Brennser and Sweetcell's houses, I couldn't help but have a buzz.


Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
sweetcell/jimmyford,

I get the impression you guys don't generally drink more than a couple beers.

What do you do if you go to a BBQ, music festival, event that starts at say noon and it's a party that goes until midnight? You're obviously not crushing 8% beers all day, so what do you do?

fair enough!

I think James problem is he is drinking Beer like it is wine.  He thinks everyone else should do the same.  I like to spend six hours with friends out having a good time I don't want to have 10 nine percent beers and end up blacking out and not knowing what I did the next day. 

I think if you look at the biggest beer drinking nations you also will have the worst cuisine nations as well. German, Irish, English, Czech, US and Austria aren't really known for their food.  Belgium would be the one exception. 

If I want to drink with good food I will drink wine.  When I was in Portugal people drank wine all day long.  If you didn't order wine with your lunch they would look at you were nuts.  But guess what they had the best food I ever tasted. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 04:32:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 21, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
sweetcell/jimmyford,

I get the impression you guys don't generally drink more than a couple beers.

What do you do if you go to a BBQ, music festival, event that starts at say noon and it's a party that goes until midnight? You're obviously not crushing 8% beers all day, so what do you do?

if i'm at an all-day festival you're right, i'll avoid the 8% beers and have the more manageable 5%'ers.  there are plenty of tasty pale ales, IPAs, stouts, etc. that are both flavorful and refreshing.

if i'm looking for a buzz, and hydration (or dehydration) isn't a majar concern - like a show at a club - i'd typically rather drink fewer 8% beers than more 5% beers. 

and depending on the situation, i've been known to drink more than a couple of beers ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 04:39:11 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 04:22:13 pm
When I was in Portugal people drank wine all day long.  If you didn't order wine with your lunch they would look at you were nuts.  But guess what they had the best food I ever tasted. 

i was in portugal last august, and they had, on the whole, some of the most disappointing food i've ever had while traveling.  the missus and i are small "f" foodies, and we had a hell of a time finding really great food.  it was quite the disappointment since food is one of the things we look forward to when we travel.  the missus speaks portuguese so we thought we had an "in" to finding the good stuff, but we couldn't get any recommendations that panned out be they from books, online, or from locals.  we did have one amazing meal in the port-producing region, at a really high-end organic restaurant (and paid a lot for the food - worth it).  the wine was good and we had amazing port... but overall the food was mediocre.  to put this back on topic: the beer was boring to horrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 04:45:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 21, 2013, 04:39:11 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 21, 2013, 04:22:13 pm
When I was in Portugal people drank wine all day long.  If you didn't order wine with your lunch they would look at you were nuts.  But guess what they had the best food I ever tasted. 

i was in portugal last august, and they had, on the whole, some of the most disappointing food i've ever had while traveling.  the missus and i are small "f" foodies, and we had a hell of a time finding really great food.  it was quite the disappointment since food is one of the things we look forward to when we travel.  the missus speaks portuguese so we thought we had an "in" to finding the good stuff, but we couldn't get any recommendations that panned out be they from books, online, or from locals.  we did have one amazing meal in the port-producing region, at a really high-end organic restaurant (and paid a lot for the food - worth it).  the wine was good and we had amazing port... but overall the food was mediocre.  to put this back on topic: the beer was boring to horrible.

Best seafood I have ever eaten.  The Oysters I had were like twice as big as the biggest I ever had before.  Grilled Sardines were delicious.  The Pastries in Belem in Lisbon were out of this world. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 04:50:01 pm
Never been to Portugal, but liked the food in Madrid, Seville, Barcelona and Granada, even with vegetarian+seafood restriction.

How does the Portuguese food compare to Spanish food?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 22, 2013, 09:09:55 pm
negra modelo . . . especially on draft, on a hot summer day, when you finally have a day off, is very nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Stillwater on June 23, 2013, 11:01:29 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 04:50:01 pm
Never been to Portugal, but liked the food in Madrid, Seville, Barcelona and Granada, even with vegetarian+seafood restriction.

How does the Portuguese food compare to Spanish food?

Far less creativity... lots more cod.  I traveled to the Azores and had great food while I was there.  But in general, I don't think the Portuguese are known to have world-class cuisine, generally. Wine, Bread, Cod, Pork.  They do those right, though.

I did 2.5 weeks in Spain last year and the one meal that stood out was the one at our hotel restaurant in Barcelona - Cram Hotel.  Amazing.  Otherwise the food was merely great throughout the entire trip.  Beer? Not so much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 23, 2013, 04:03:52 pm
We found a good Belgian beer bar in Barcelona around the corner from our hotel the last time we were there. Although I don't think we used it, ratebeer.com is always helpful for locating those
kind of things.

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/Country/Cities/barcelona/183.htm



Quote from: Stillwater on June 23, 2013, 11:01:29 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 04:50:01 pm
Never been to Portugal, but liked the food in Madrid, Seville, Barcelona and Granada, even with vegetarian+seafood restriction.

How does the Portuguese food compare to Spanish food?

Far less creativity... lots more cod.  I traveled to the Azores and had great food while I was there.  But in general, I don't think the Portuguese are known to have world-class cuisine, generally. Wine, Bread, Cod, Pork.  They do those right, though.

I did 2.5 weeks in Spain last year and the one meal that stood out was the one at our hotel restaurant in Barcelona - Cram Hotel.  Amazing.  Otherwise the food was merely great throughout the entire trip.  Beer? Not so much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 23, 2013, 07:52:47 pm
At Churchkey Wed:


Wednesday, June 26 at 6 PM:

 The Ultimate De Struise Tap Takeover: 17 Rare Drafts + Meet Founders Urbain Cotteau & Philippe Driessens!

 ChurchKey is proud to present nearly 20 De Struise brews on draft next Wednesday night, June 26th!
 
 This is by far the most De Struise kegs ever tapped simultaneously in our region, and this massive tap takeover will serve as a fitting welcome party for our old friends Urbain Cotteau & Philippe Driessens, the founders of de Struise from West Flanders, Belgium! This is a can't miss opportunity to taste some of the most impressive Belgian-brewed craft ales in the world, and to hang out with two of the coolest guys in the business. For this very special event, we will be pouring two brand-new De Struise ales, Weltmerz (Session Sour of 3% abv) and Ypres (Flanders Oud Bruin), the fresh batch of De Struise-3 Floyds collaboration Shark Pants, Bourbon Barrel-Aged XXX Rye Tripel, as well as some old favorites like Cuvee Delphine, Black Albert, Pannepot Reserva 2010 and Sint Amatus!

 There is no admission fee for this event and all De Struise drafts will be priced individually in 4 oz. pours and by the glass.

 Oh...and word has it that the De Struise team will also be conspiring with our very own Bluejacket for some future collaborations while in town ...

 The De Struise Tap Takeover List!
 De Struise Weltmerz
 De Struise Ypres
 De Struise & 3 Floyds Shark Pants
 De Struise Bourbon Barrel-Aged XXX Rye Tripel
 De Struise Cuvee Delphine
 De Struise Black Albert
 De Struise Pannepot Reserva 2010
 De Struise Sint Amatus
 De Struise Pannepeut
 De Struise X
 De Struise XX
 De Struise XXX Rye Tripel
 De Struise XXXX
 De Struise AA Blond
 De Struise Rosse
 De Struise Witte
 De Struise Roste Jeanne

 About De Struise:
 De Struise Brouwers (DSB) is a microbrewery located in Oostvleteren, Belgium. Owners of a nearby ostrich-raising farm in Lo-Reninge with accommodations for vacationers, Urbain Coutteau and Philippe Driessens developed an interest in making distinctive regional beers to serve to their guests. In 2001 they began doing so with help from local wine maker Carlo Grootaert, and this project eventually developed into its own independent commercial concern. Upon its inception in 2003, Struise produced beers at the Caulier brewery in northern Hainaut. Since 2006, they have been made at the Deca brewing facility in Woesten-Vleteren in West Flanders. Today, Struise?s own microbrewery and tasting room is currently open & operational located in a renovated school building in Oostvleteren, Belgium.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 23, 2013, 07:53:43 pm
At Churchkey Monday:


ChurchKey is honored to be among a cadre of craft beer bars competing in the 2013 Stone Most Bitter Bar contest, and we are throwing a huge Stone bash on Monday night, June 24th, to launch our candidacy!

 We will be featuring a number of hopped-up Stone brews from June 21st until June 30th, all in the name of being crowned the Stone Most Bitter bar champion, but--on Monday the 24th--we will go all out and feature a bevy of bittered brews, many of which we will be pouring for the very first time!

 So come out and support CK and Stone, and get your hands on some incredible new IPAs released specifically for participating Bitter Bar contestants, like Ruination: Tropical Heat Edition (brewed w/ Mango and Habanero peppers) and Stone IPA Double Dry-Hopped with El Dorado & Target hops! We will also be featuring a super-fresh keg of Ruinten, the re-brewed batch of Ruination 10th Anniversary (which happened to be one of the absolute most outstanding Imperial IPAs of 2012)!

 No admission fee! All Stone drafts priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. taster pours!

 The Stone Most Bitter Bar Event Draft List!
 Stone Ruination: Tropical Heat Edition
 Stone IPA Double Dry-Hopped with El Dorado & Target
 Stone Ruinten
 Stone IPA
 Stone Ruination
 Stone Cali-Belgique
 Stone Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 23, 2013, 11:17:58 pm
currently drinking an Avery Salvation.  verdict: this is a great "intro to belgian beers" beer.  not too dry, not too strong on the esters, some spice but not too much, etc.

Quote from: James Ford on June 23, 2013, 07:52:47 pm
At Churchkey Wed:


Wednesday, June 26 at 6 PM:

 The Ultimate De Struise Tap Takeover: 17 Rare Drafts + Meet Founders Urbain Cotteau & Philippe Driessens!

i'm headed to philly on wednesday for NHC (http://www.ahaconference.org/), otherwise i'd be soooooo all over this.

i am so excited about NHC.  3 days of seminars, meeting brewers, vendor expos, geeking out with other beer geeks... and drinking a lot of amazing beer, both homemade and commercial.  summer camp for beer dorks ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Stillwater on June 24, 2013, 06:48:42 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 23, 2013, 04:03:52 pm
We found a good Belgian beer bar in Barcelona around the corner from our hotel the last time we were there. Although I don't think we used it, ratebeer.com is always helpful for locating those
kind of things.

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/Country/Cities/barcelona/183.htm



Quote from: Stillwater on June 23, 2013, 11:01:29 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 04:50:01 pm
Never been to Portugal, but liked the food in Madrid, Seville, Barcelona and Granada, even with vegetarian+seafood restriction.

How does the Portuguese food compare to Spanish food?

Far less creativity... lots more cod.  I traveled to the Azores and had great food while I was there.  But in general, I don't think the Portuguese are known to have world-class cuisine, generally. Wine, Bread, Cod, Pork.  They do those right, though.

I did 2.5 weeks in Spain last year and the one meal that stood out was the one at our hotel restaurant in Barcelona - Cram Hotel.  Amazing.  Otherwise the food was merely great throughout the entire trip.  Beer? Not so much.

Now that you mention it, we did find a place in Seville with a good list. Mostly All Belgian and German.  It was a gem in the midst of 2.5 weeks of Cruzcampo and San Miguel.

Its called Cerveceria Internacional after looking it up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 12:37:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 04:50:01 pm
Never been to Portugal, but liked the food in Madrid, Seville, Barcelona and Granada, even with vegetarian+seafood restriction.

How does the Portuguese food compare to Spanish food?

I thought the food in Portugal was much better.  I mostly ate seafood in both countries.  I think the only time I didn't have seafood in either country for lunch or dinner I had duck breast at our hotel in Coimbra, Portugal which was amazing.  The restaurant was Michilin star rated what ever that means. 

Anyway great seafood in Portugal.  I ate a lot Paella in Spain.  No restaurant I went to in Spain did the people speak English.  And they had English menus but the waiter couldn't read the English menu so it was pretty much useless.  I did have a delilcious Cod dish in Merida, Spain and but it was a Portugese recipe. 

In portugal I usually asked the waiter to recommend the food and the wine.  I figure they would know better than me.  I would ask for their recommended red win and their recommended seafood. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 12:47:20 pm
So I went to Union Craft on Saturday. I enjoyed their beers.  I especially liked their Balt Altbier, Blackwing Lager, and Oatmeal Stout.  I got a couple of six packs of Altbier and a growler of their Lager.   They seem to know what they are doing and they are so close to my house that I can stop by any saturday and fill up a growler or two which is nice.

I did head to Max's on Saturday.  The bar was full and there was one table open but they dont' have waiters there.  And they only had some of the beers each day.  I didn't really see anything on the list I wanted to drink on draft.  The bottles were around 20 bucks a piece.  They had stuff like beers that had 1.5 percent and another beer with habrenaro in it.  Also there was no eye candy there.  Mostly old people with metal frame glasses.  Anyway we left and went to the Admirals Cup had a few Flying Dog in heat wheats and some oysters and crab cakes outside.  Beautiful day. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 24, 2013, 01:00:21 pm
nothing worse . . . than old people in metal frame glasses.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 24, 2013, 01:06:15 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 12:37:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 04:50:01 pm
Never been to Portugal, but liked the food in Madrid, Seville, Barcelona and Granada, even with vegetarian+seafood restriction.

How does the Portuguese food compare to Spanish food?

I thought the food in Portugal was much better.  I mostly ate seafood in both countries.  I think the only time I didn't have seafood in either country for lunch or dinner I had duck breast at our hotel in Coimbra, Portugal which was amazing.  The restaurant was Michilin star rated what ever that means. 

Anyway great seafood in Portugal.  I ate a lot Paella in Spain.  No restaurant I went to in Spain did the people speak English.  And they had English menus but the waiter couldn't read the English menu so it was pretty much useless.  I did have a delilcious Cod dish in Merida, Spain and but it was a Portugese recipe. 

In portugal I usually asked the waiter to recommend the food and the wine.  I figure they would know better than me.  I would ask for their recommended red win and their recommended seafood. 



yeah but the "eye candy" in portugal leaves a lot to be desired.. a serious contender for ugliest women on earth (along with cape verde)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 01:33:38 pm
Well kudos to you for at least giving the Max's thing a shot.

At least they titled it correctly, "Rare and Obscure Beer Fest". Looked like some of the stuff sort of appealed to a niche audience and some of it was from smaller, lesser known breweries. Neither of which is going to appeal to a mainstream beer drinker like yourself.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 12:47:20 pm
So I went to Union Craft on Saturday. I enjoyed their beers.  I especially liked their Balt Altbier, Blackwing Lager, and Oatmeal Stout.  I got a couple of six packs of Altbier and a growler of their Lager.   They seem to know what they are doing and they are so close to my house that I can stop by any saturday and fill up a growler or two which is nice.

I did head to Max's on Saturday.  The bar was full and there was one table open but they dont' have waiters there.  And they only had some of the beers each day.  I didn't really see anything on the list I wanted to drink on draft.  The bottles were around 20 bucks a piece.  They had stuff like beers that had 1.5 percent and another beer with habrenaro in it.  Also there was no eye candy there.  Mostly old people with metal frame glasses.  Anyway we left and went to the Admirals Cup had a few Flying Dog in heat wheats and some oysters and crab cakes outside.  Beautiful day. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 01:36:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 01:33:38 pm
Well kudos to you for at least giving the Max's thing a shot.

At least they titled it correctly, "Rare and Obscure Beer Fest". Looked like some of the stuff sort of appealed to a niche audience and some of it was from smaller, lesser known breweries. Neither of which is going to appeal to a mainstream beer drinker like yourself.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 12:47:20 pm
So I went to Union Craft on Saturday. I enjoyed their beers.  I especially liked their Balt Altbier, Blackwing Lager, and Oatmeal Stout.  I got a couple of six packs of Altbier and a growler of their Lager.   They seem to know what they are doing and they are so close to my house that I can stop by any saturday and fill up a growler or two which is nice.

I did head to Max's on Saturday.  The bar was full and there was one table open but they dont' have waiters there.  And they only had some of the beers each day.  I didn't really see anything on the list I wanted to drink on draft.  The bottles were around 20 bucks a piece.  They had stuff like beers that had 1.5 percent and another beer with habrenaro in it.  Also there was no eye candy there.  Mostly old people with metal frame glasses.  Anyway we left and went to the Admirals Cup had a few Flying Dog in heat wheats and some oysters and crab cakes outside.  Beautiful day. 

Yeah I am the mainstream beer drinker who drinks Union Craft beer.  It appeals to old short  dudes in metal framed glasses.  I don't think 1.5 percent beer is going to appeal to too many people.  Mainstream or Niche drinkers.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 01:43:33 pm
If you're saying it won't appeal to people because it lacks taste, I'm with you.

 If you are saying it won't appeal to people because of the low ABV, you lost me. I would love it if all of the 10% beers I drink could be cut down to 1.5%  (and have the calories chopped as well) and maintain the same taste.

And Union Craft makes a lager, a pale ale, an oatmeal stout, and an altbier. It doesn't get much more mainstream than that, does it?


Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 01:36:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 01:33:38 pm
Well kudos to you for at least giving the Max's thing a shot.

At least they titled it correctly, "Rare and Obscure Beer Fest". Looked like some of the stuff sort of appealed to a niche audience and some of it was from smaller, lesser known breweries. Neither of which is going to appeal to a mainstream beer drinker like yourself.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 12:47:20 pm
So I went to Union Craft on Saturday. I enjoyed their beers.  I especially liked their Balt Altbier, Blackwing Lager, and Oatmeal Stout.  I got a couple of six packs of Altbier and a growler of their Lager.   They seem to know what they are doing and they are so close to my house that I can stop by any saturday and fill up a growler or two which is nice.

I did head to Max's on Saturday.  The bar was full and there was one table open but they dont' have waiters there.  And they only had some of the beers each day.  I didn't really see anything on the list I wanted to drink on draft.  The bottles were around 20 bucks a piece.  They had stuff like beers that had 1.5 percent and another beer with habrenaro in it.  Also there was no eye candy there.  Mostly old people with metal frame glasses.  Anyway we left and went to the Admirals Cup had a few Flying Dog in heat wheats and some oysters and crab cakes outside.  Beautiful day. 

Yeah I am the mainstream beer drinker who drinks Union Craft beer.  It appeals to old short  dudes in metal framed glasses.  I don't think 1.5 percent beer is going to appeal to too many people.  Mainstream or Niche drinkers.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 01:44:40 pm
Red wine with seafood? You really are a rebel!

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 12:37:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 21, 2013, 04:50:01 pm
Never been to Portugal, but liked the food in Madrid, Seville, Barcelona and Granada, even with vegetarian+seafood restriction.

How does the Portuguese food compare to Spanish food?

I thought the food in Portugal was much better.  I mostly ate seafood in both countries.  I think the only time I didn't have seafood in either country for lunch or dinner I had duck breast at our hotel in Coimbra, Portugal which was amazing.  The restaurant was Michilin star rated what ever that means. 

Anyway great seafood in Portugal.  I ate a lot Paella in Spain.  No restaurant I went to in Spain did the people speak English.  And they had English menus but the waiter couldn't read the English menu so it was pretty much useless.  I did have a delilcious Cod dish in Merida, Spain and but it was a Portugese recipe. 

In portugal I usually asked the waiter to recommend the food and the wine.  I figure they would know better than me.  I would ask for their recommended red win and their recommended seafood. 


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:33:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 01:43:33 pm
If you're saying it won't appeal to people because it lacks taste, I'm with you.

 If you are saying it won't appeal to people because of the low ABV, you lost me. I would love it if all of the 10% beers I drink could be cut down to 1.5%  (and have the calories chopped as well) and maintain the same taste.

And Union Craft makes a lager, a pale ale, an oatmeal stout, and an altbier. It doesn't get much more mainstream than that, does it?


Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 01:36:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 01:33:38 pm
Well kudos to you for at least giving the Max's thing a shot.

At least they titled it correctly, "Rare and Obscure Beer Fest". Looked like some of the stuff sort of appealed to a niche audience and some of it was from smaller, lesser known breweries. Neither of which is going to appeal to a mainstream beer drinker like yourself.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 12:47:20 pm
So I went to Union Craft on Saturday. I enjoyed their beers.  I especially liked their Balt Altbier, Blackwing Lager, and Oatmeal Stout.  I got a couple of six packs of Altbier and a growler of their Lager.   They seem to know what they are doing and they are so close to my house that I can stop by any saturday and fill up a growler or two which is nice.

I did head to Max's on Saturday.  The bar was full and there was one table open but they dont' have waiters there.  And they only had some of the beers each day.  I didn't really see anything on the list I wanted to drink on draft.  The bottles were around 20 bucks a piece.  They had stuff like beers that had 1.5 percent and another beer with habrenaro in it.  Also there was no eye candy there.  Mostly old people with metal frame glasses.  Anyway we left and went to the Admirals Cup had a few Flying Dog in heat wheats and some oysters and crab cakes outside.  Beautiful day. 

Yeah I am the mainstream beer drinker who drinks Union Craft beer.  It appeals to old short  dudes in metal framed glasses.  I don't think 1.5 percent beer is going to appeal to too many people.  Mainstream or Niche drinkers.   

To me drinking 1.5 percent beer would be a waste of time.  As for Union Craft, Black Lager is not mainstream, oatmeal stout is not mainstream.  And Altbeir is not mainstream.  I don't know where you get stuff from. 

As for Red Wine and seafood.  I don't like white wine.  So I would never have it with any food.  Red wine is healthier for you as well. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:43:10 pm
I too prefer red wine. And if it tasted good and was 1.5% abv, I'd still drink it.

I've seen black lagers, oatmeal stouts, and altbiers at my local Giant grocery store. A grocery store that sells very, very limited supply of craft beer.

However, I've never seen any flanders red ales, flanders oud bruins, american wild ales, berliner weisses, rauchbiers, bier de gardes, or wee heavies at my local Giant. When Union Craft starts making some of those, I'll drop the "mainstream" tag. ;)

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:33:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 01:43:33 pm
If you're saying it won't appeal to people because it lacks taste, I'm with you.

 If you are saying it won't appeal to people because of the low ABV, you lost me. I would love it if all of the 10% beers I drink could be cut down to 1.5%  (and have the calories chopped as well) and maintain the same taste.

And Union Craft makes a lager, a pale ale, an oatmeal stout, and an altbier. It doesn't get much more mainstream than that, does it?


Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 01:36:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 01:33:38 pm
Well kudos to you for at least giving the Max's thing a shot.

At least they titled it correctly, "Rare and Obscure Beer Fest". Looked like some of the stuff sort of appealed to a niche audience and some of it was from smaller, lesser known breweries. Neither of which is going to appeal to a mainstream beer drinker like yourself.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 12:47:20 pm
So I went to Union Craft on Saturday. I enjoyed their beers.  I especially liked their Balt Altbier, Blackwing Lager, and Oatmeal Stout.  I got a couple of six packs of Altbier and a growler of their Lager.   They seem to know what they are doing and they are so close to my house that I can stop by any saturday and fill up a growler or two which is nice.

I did head to Max's on Saturday.  The bar was full and there was one table open but they dont' have waiters there.  And they only had some of the beers each day.  I didn't really see anything on the list I wanted to drink on draft.  The bottles were around 20 bucks a piece.  They had stuff like beers that had 1.5 percent and another beer with habrenaro in it.  Also there was no eye candy there.  Mostly old people with metal frame glasses.  Anyway we left and went to the Admirals Cup had a few Flying Dog in heat wheats and some oysters and crab cakes outside.  Beautiful day. 

Yeah I am the mainstream beer drinker who drinks Union Craft beer.  It appeals to old short  dudes in metal framed glasses.  I don't think 1.5 percent beer is going to appeal to too many people.  Mainstream or Niche drinkers.   

To me drinking 1.5 percent beer would be a waste of time.  As for Union Craft, Black Lager is not mainstream, oatmeal stout is not mainstream.  And Altbeir is not mainstream.  I don't know where you get stuff from. 

As for Red Wine and seafood.  I don't like white wine.  So I would never have it with any food.  Red wine is healthier for you as well. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah, but the ABV is 2.7%, so what's the point?

 ;D
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 24, 2013, 03:43:41 pm
on wednesday night i'll be at this: http://phillytapfinder.com/event/brewing-networks-bna8/

looking forward to drinking Founder's Bolt Cutter & Doom, Moonlight Russian Imperial Braggot, Stone's Reason Be Damned, Weyerbacher Aquila & Insanity... at least i hope to taste all of these, we'll see how far i make it down that list.  supposedly there will also be some special meads from Moonlight Meadery.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 24, 2013, 04:16:52 pm
 i really like insanity. i have 3 bottles aging now.

will be in DC for the founders event Wednesday night at big hunt. hoping for a bolt cutter surprise cameo!

Kentucky Breakfast Stout
Pale Ale
Double Trouble
All Day IPA
And more(!?)

hoping for some good brews at AHA pro-brewer night on thursday. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 04:18:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah, but the ABV is 2.7%, so what's the point?

 ;D
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 

Anyway the stupidity behind your mainstream comment is that Max's had five firkin's of Union Craft brew at their rare brews fest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 24, 2013, 04:53:48 pm
im learning about geography, in this here thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 08:05:31 am
And yet you didn't find anything on that list you wanted to drink?

By "I didn't find anything on the list that I wanted to drink" did you really mean "I didn't see anything that I had hear of?"

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 04:18:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah, but the ABV is 2.7%, so what's the point?

 ;D
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 

Anyway the stupidity behind your mainstream comment is that Max's had five firkin's of Union Craft brew at their rare brews fest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 08:13:21 am
de Strusse night at Churchkey > Founders night at Big Hunt (on same night). Not even close for me.


Quote from: stevewizzle on June 24, 2013, 04:16:52 pm
i really like insanity. i have 3 bottles aging now.

will be in DC for the founders event Wednesday night at big hunt. hoping for a bolt cutter surprise cameo!

Kentucky Breakfast Stout
Pale Ale
Double Trouble
All Day IPA
And more(!?)

hoping for some good brews at AHA pro-brewer night on thursday. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 09:42:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 08:05:31 am
And yet you didn't find anything on that list you wanted to drink?

By "I didn't find anything on the list that I wanted to drink" did you really mean "I didn't see anything that I had hear of?"

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 04:18:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah, but the ABV is 2.7%, so what's the point?

 ;D
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 

Anyway the stupidity behind your mainstream comment is that Max's had five firkin's of Union Craft brew at their rare brews fest.

No I looked at the descriptions of the beers and nothing was anything I would want to drink.  The Union Craft was all their Pale Ale with different types of tea added. I did not enjoy their pale ale so why would I drink it.  It was gimic beers.  And there weren't that many available.  Maybe 30.  5 of which were the Union Craft brews. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 12:34:31 pm
It sounds like maybe you have a very limited palate, like my 72 year old mom.

Sure, she'll drink a lager or a wheat beer or three, but give her a stout (too roasty), an IPA (too bitter), a quad (too strong) or a sour (too sour), and she aint having none of that.

Of course give her one of those after she's had three Blue Moons, and WTF, she'll drink it.


I didn't see the beer descriptions, but based on which breweries were represented, I could have easily been curious enough to try a dozen of them. And if I saw the descriptions...watch out, probably twice that!

Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 09:42:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 08:05:31 am
And yet you didn't find anything on that list you wanted to drink?

By "I didn't find anything on the list that I wanted to drink" did you really mean "I didn't see anything that I had hear of?"

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 04:18:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah, but the ABV is 2.7%, so what's the point?

 ;D
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 

Anyway the stupidity behind your mainstream comment is that Max's had five firkin's of Union Craft brew at their rare brews fest.

No I looked at the descriptions of the beers and nothing was anything I would want to drink.  The Union Craft was all their Pale Ale with different types of tea added. I did not enjoy their pale ale so why would I drink it.  It was gimic beers.  And there weren't that many available.  Maybe 30.  5 of which were the Union Craft brews. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 12:51:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 12:34:31 pm
It sounds like maybe you have a very limited palate, like my 72 year old mom.

Sure, she'll drink a lager or a wheat beer or three, but give her a stout (too roasty), an IPA (too bitter), a quad (too strong) or a sour (too sour), and she aint having none of that.

Of course give her one of those after she's had three Blue Moons, and WTF, she'll drink it.


I didn't see the beer descriptions, but based on which breweries were represented, I could have easily been curious enough to try a dozen of them. And if I saw the descriptions...watch out, probably twice that!

Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 09:42:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 08:05:31 am
And yet you didn't find anything on that list you wanted to drink?

By "I didn't find anything on the list that I wanted to drink" did you really mean "I didn't see anything that I had hear of?"

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 04:18:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah, but the ABV is 2.7%, so what's the point?

 ;D
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 

Anyway the stupidity behind your mainstream comment is that Max's had five firkin's of Union Craft brew at their rare brews fest.

No I looked at the descriptions of the beers and nothing was anything I would want to drink.  The Union Craft was all their Pale Ale with different types of tea added. I did not enjoy their pale ale so why would I drink it.  It was gimic beers.  And there weren't that many available.  Maybe 30.  5 of which were the Union Craft brews. 

Maybe you  have a limited palate.  Maybe that is why you have to read beer advocate to figure out what beer to like.  You really have issues. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 01:04:53 pm
Wow, a tad defensive?

I'm willing to try just about any beer. How does that translate to my having a limited palate?

And sure, if there are 30 beers I haven't tried at an obscure beer fest, and I can't try every one of them, of course I'm going to read what people on beer advocate had to say about them. That would probably give me additional information beyond the descriptions provided by Max's. Why would I not want to know what other people had thought about them?  Their additional descriptions might help me narrow the list down to a drinkable number.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 12:51:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 12:34:31 pm
It sounds like maybe you have a very limited palate, like my 72 year old mom.

Sure, she'll drink a lager or a wheat beer or three, but give her a stout (too roasty), an IPA (too bitter), a quad (too strong) or a sour (too sour), and she aint having none of that.

Of course give her one of those after she's had three Blue Moons, and WTF, she'll drink it.


I didn't see the beer descriptions, but based on which breweries were represented, I could have easily been curious enough to try a dozen of them. And if I saw the descriptions...watch out, probably twice that!

Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 09:42:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 08:05:31 am
And yet you didn't find anything on that list you wanted to drink?

By "I didn't find anything on the list that I wanted to drink" did you really mean "I didn't see anything that I had hear of?"

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 04:18:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah, but the ABV is 2.7%, so what's the point?

 ;D
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 

Anyway the stupidity behind your mainstream comment is that Max's had five firkin's of Union Craft brew at their rare brews fest.

No I looked at the descriptions of the beers and nothing was anything I would want to drink.  The Union Craft was all their Pale Ale with different types of tea added. I did not enjoy their pale ale so why would I drink it.  It was gimic beers.  And there weren't that many available.  Maybe 30.  5 of which were the Union Craft brews. 

Maybe you  have a limited palate.  Maybe that is why you have to read beer advocate to figure out what beer to like.  You really have issues. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 01:09:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 01:04:53 pm
Wow, a tad defensive?

I'm willing to try just about any beer. How does that translate to my having a limited palate?

And sure, if there are 30 beers I haven't tried at an obscure beer fest, and I can't try every one of them, of course I'm going to read what people on beer advocate had to say about them. That would probably give me additional information beyond the descriptions provided by Max's. Why would I not want to know what other people had thought about them?  Their additional descriptions might help me narrow the list down to a drinkable number.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 12:51:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 12:34:31 pm
It sounds like maybe you have a very limited palate, like my 72 year old mom.

Sure, she'll drink a lager or a wheat beer or three, but give her a stout (too roasty), an IPA (too bitter), a quad (too strong) or a sour (too sour), and she aint having none of that.

Of course give her one of those after she's had three Blue Moons, and WTF, she'll drink it.


I didn't see the beer descriptions, but based on which breweries were represented, I could have easily been curious enough to try a dozen of them. And if I saw the descriptions...watch out, probably twice that!

Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 09:42:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 08:05:31 am
And yet you didn't find anything on that list you wanted to drink?

By "I didn't find anything on the list that I wanted to drink" did you really mean "I didn't see anything that I had hear of?"

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 04:18:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah, but the ABV is 2.7%, so what's the point?

 ;D
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 

Anyway the stupidity behind your mainstream comment is that Max's had five firkin's of Union Craft brew at their rare brews fest.

No I looked at the descriptions of the beers and nothing was anything I would want to drink.  The Union Craft was all their Pale Ale with different types of tea added. I did not enjoy their pale ale so why would I drink it.  It was gimic beers.  And there weren't that many available.  Maybe 30.  5 of which were the Union Craft brews. 

Maybe you  have a limited palate.  Maybe that is why you have to read beer advocate to figure out what beer to like.  You really have issues. 

Maybe all of them have limited palates.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 01:34:45 pm
Maybe they do. But I'd trust a random stranger who only likes hoppy beers who has tried 50 different IPA's opinion about a certain IPA more than I would my mom's.

Of course I'd trust my own opinion most, but I'm operating under the assumption that there are too many beers for me to try.

Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 01:09:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 01:04:53 pm
Wow, a tad defensive?

I'm willing to try just about any beer. How does that translate to my having a limited palate?

And sure, if there are 30 beers I haven't tried at an obscure beer fest, and I can't try every one of them, of course I'm going to read what people on beer advocate had to say about them. That would probably give me additional information beyond the descriptions provided by Max's. Why would I not want to know what other people had thought about them?  Their additional descriptions might help me narrow the list down to a drinkable number.


Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 12:51:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 12:34:31 pm
It sounds like maybe you have a very limited palate, like my 72 year old mom.

Sure, she'll drink a lager or a wheat beer or three, but give her a stout (too roasty), an IPA (too bitter), a quad (too strong) or a sour (too sour), and she aint having none of that.

Of course give her one of those after she's had three Blue Moons, and WTF, she'll drink it.


I didn't see the beer descriptions, but based on which breweries were represented, I could have easily been curious enough to try a dozen of them. And if I saw the descriptions...watch out, probably twice that!

Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 09:42:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 08:05:31 am
And yet you didn't find anything on that list you wanted to drink?

By "I didn't find anything on the list that I wanted to drink" did you really mean "I didn't see anything that I had hear of?"

Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 04:18:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 24, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah, but the ABV is 2.7%, so what's the point?

 ;D
Quote from: atomicfront on June 24, 2013, 02:47:30 pm


Union Craft makes a Berliner weisse. 

Anyway the stupidity behind your mainstream comment is that Max's had five firkin's of Union Craft brew at their rare brews fest.

No I looked at the descriptions of the beers and nothing was anything I would want to drink.  The Union Craft was all their Pale Ale with different types of tea added. I did not enjoy their pale ale so why would I drink it.  It was gimic beers.  And there weren't that many available.  Maybe 30.  5 of which were the Union Craft brews. 

Maybe you  have a limited palate.  Maybe that is why you have to read beer advocate to figure out what beer to like.  You really have issues. 

Maybe all of them have limited palates.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 25, 2013, 01:37:01 pm
wow, thats quite a back and forth

went to Max's - was old and wore horn rimmed glasses - good time - not too crowded (it was after 11pm) - some decent beers Stone Ruinten, Boulevard Saison Brett, BFM, Barrel Aged Narwhal

Also went to "Of Love and Regret" last night - again very solid - good food, great selection of stillwater and other beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 25, 2013, 02:12:20 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 01:09:36 pm
Maybe all of them have limited palates.

"if you think everyone else is the problem, perhaps the problem is you."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 02:13:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 25, 2013, 02:12:20 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on June 25, 2013, 01:09:36 pm
Maybe all of them have limited palates.

"if you think everyone else is the problem, perhaps the problem is you."

Well than the answer is we should all drink Bud Light? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 03:20:20 pm
For those into bigass double IPA's, this is a big week. Coming to VA this week:

Stone RuinTen
Founders Devil Dancer
Alewerks Bitter Valentine
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 25, 2013, 04:57:18 pm
so in my normal founders double trouble buying frenzy, god i love that beer and would drink it all year long if i could, but ive already said that once, i came upon this here

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/995226_391450770967909_1649244346_n.jpg)

cant remember if i had it or not before.  those crazy people over at atomicfronts antichrist beer publication rated it nicely.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 25, 2013, 05:27:01 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 25, 2013, 04:57:18 pm
so in my normal founders double trouble buying frenzy, god i love that beer and would drink it all year long if i could, but ive already said that once, i came upon this here

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/995226_391450770967909_1649244346_n.jpg)

cant remember if i had it or not before.  those crazy people over at atomicfronts antichrist beer publication rated it nicely.

it's actually a terrible beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 25, 2013, 05:54:08 pm
damn.  when i drink it, i will let you know.  ive met people who swear by sierra nevada, and they love their products, and i respect them and your opinion . . . but we shall see oh wisened one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 06:11:59 pm
Don't listen to him. It's very good. Maybe not as good as Double Trouble, but still very good!
And where are you finding it at that price?

Quote from: walkonby on June 25, 2013, 05:54:08 pm
damn.  when i drink it, i will let you know.  ive met people who swear by sierra nevada, and they love their products, and i respect them and your opinion . . . but we shall see oh wisened one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 25, 2013, 06:40:49 pm
thank you mister ford.  the picture is a random one from the internet, so the price i paid was what i assume for four is normal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 25, 2013, 09:21:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 03:20:20 pm
For those into bigass double IPA's, this is a big week. Coming to VA this week:

Stone RuinTen
Founders Devil Dancer
Alewerks Bitter Valentine

had ruinten at CK last night. that beer is pure gold. i think it might be my favorite DIPA this year.

fuck it, my top 5 dipa's this year:

1. ruinten
2. heady
3. sucks
4. enjoy by
5. alchemy hour

honorable mentions: otwoa, hfs s&s #4, nugget nectar, avery mahajara, molotov hoptail
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 25, 2013, 09:22:41 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 25, 2013, 06:40:49 pm
thank you mister ford.  the picture is a random one from the internet, so the price i paid was what i assume for four is normal.

$10 is about right.

and that beer is delicious. not many double ipa's quite like it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 09:40:16 pm
I think both Brennser and Yada have said Hoptimum is too bitter. And I can't say I disagree. It is quite bitter and  arguably unbalanced. But occasionally I actually want that in a beer.

It's definitely one Tommy Fresh would hate!


Quote from: stevewizzle on June 25, 2013, 09:22:41 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 25, 2013, 06:40:49 pm
thank you mister ford.  the picture is a random one from the internet, so the price i paid was what i assume for four is normal.

$10 is about right.

and that beer is delicious. not many double ipa's quite like it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 26, 2013, 10:06:05 am
you are correct - very unbalanced imho

Quote from: James Ford on June 25, 2013, 09:40:16 pm
I think both Brennser and Yada have said Hoptimum is too bitter. And I can't say I disagree. It is quite bitter and  arguably unbalanced.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 26, 2013, 10:27:25 am
Quote from: walkonby on June 25, 2013, 05:54:08 pm
damn.  when i drink it, i will let you know.  ive met people who swear by sierra nevada, and they love their products, and i respect them and your opinion . . . but we shall see oh wisened one.

I don't dislike Sierra Nevada, most likely the beer that got me out of drinking shitty beer in the mid 90's, I just don't like Hoptimum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 26, 2013, 11:25:27 am
I like almost every other beer they make, just not Hoptimum

Quote from: Yada on June 26, 2013, 10:27:25 am
Quote from: walkonby on June 25, 2013, 05:54:08 pm
damn.  when i drink it, i will let you know.  ive met people who swear by sierra nevada, and they love their products, and i respect them and your opinion . . . but we shall see oh wisened one.

I don't dislike Sierra Nevada, most likely the beer that got me out of drinking shitty beer in the mid 90's, I just don't like Hoptimum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 26, 2013, 02:00:34 pm
watch . . . ill love it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 26, 2013, 08:26:29 pm
hoptimum

tangy.  refreshing.  delightful.  bitter but a smile inducing bitter.  pronounced.  heavy ass bottle.  label equals good.  memory inducing.  medicinal.  nice.  sorry, yada. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 28, 2013, 02:49:22 pm
San Pelligrino Sparkling Water bottles are the perfect bottles to use for home brews.  Green tint and easy twist caps.  Plus 25.3 oz is a good serving size.  I don't know why bottles come in 12oz size that is not enough to get the slighest of buzzes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 28, 2013, 08:44:33 pm
Y'all need to move to the VA burbs. Upcoming at Fair Lakes Whole Foods (12 oz pours are usually $4 (except for Bois, which is bound to be more)):

PRE-HOLIDAY WEEK RIDICULOUS DRAFT BEER UPDATE!!! I just wanted to warn everyone of all the awesome draft options that will be surfacing in the next few days. In no particular preferential order here is what in in the wings...DC Brau Everyday Junglist, Bruery Bois, Sierra Nevada Hoptimum, Perennial Aria, Perennial Plan B, Blue Mountain Double IPA, Stillwater Cellar Door, Bruery White Oak, Southern Tier Creme Brulee, Ballast Point Sculpin, Firestone Walker Double Jack & Wookey Jack, Stone RuinTEN,Troegs Scratch #97, Founders Devil Dancer and Goose Island Illinois.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 28, 2013, 08:45:13 pm
Had our first bottle of RuinTen tonight. Excellent!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: killsaly on June 28, 2013, 09:47:42 pm
This Sweet Baby Jesus by Du Claw definitely tastes like Chocolate and peanut butter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 28, 2013, 10:20:29 pm
Is that a good thing?

Quote from: killsaly on June 28, 2013, 09:47:42 pm
This Sweet Baby Jesus by Du Claw definitely tastes like Chocolate and peanut butter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: killsaly on June 28, 2013, 11:02:00 pm
It was ok. It wasn't for me, and I don't know if I would have liked a whole bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on June 28, 2013, 11:09:13 pm
At the O's game tonight I had a Firkin of Flying Dog Belgium IPA with Habrenero and Mango..  Pretty Delicious. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 01, 2013, 12:05:00 pm
any ideas on where I can get kegs of DC Brau?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 01, 2013, 12:48:12 pm
Wow, killer IPA lineup at Dupont Paradiso tonight...

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/dupont-circle-beer-menu/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2013, 02:14:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 24, 2013, 03:43:41 pm
on wednesday night i'll be at this: http://phillytapfinder.com/event/brewing-networks-bna8/

looking forward to drinking Founder's Bolt Cutter & Doom, Moonlight Russian Imperial Braggot, Stone's Reason Be Damned, Weyerbacher Aquila & Insanity... at least i hope to taste all of these, we'll see how far i make it down that list.  supposedly there will also be some special meads from Moonlight Meadery.  

so i survived the National Homebrewer's Conference... still waiting to hear if stevewizzle made it back ;D

wednesday: the above-mentioned BNA8 party.  i liked the bolt cutter better than the doom.  the russian imperial braggot was insane. hop'solutely was surprisingly good.  tasted a number of other winners.  entertainment provided by The Trophy Fire (great power pop/rock) and the kids from the School of Rock (they melted faces).

thursday night was pro night, when the professionals brewers poured their wares in the grand convention hall.  best thing i tasted was Bitter Valentine, by Williamsburg AleWerks.  must have had at least 5 tastings of that.  the smaller breweries brought their A-game, some of the bigger boys phoned it in - Firestone Walker poured Wooky Jack, only, and the batch seemed off.  DFH had some great stuff on offer. Sam was serving for a while.

friday night was club night - the most fun i've had in a long while.  homebrew clubs decorate their tables with a theme and tried to out-serve everyone else.  a NYC club had 25 beers on tap.  a WV club had a kegerator that looked just like a mining wagon full of coal, with dynamite sticks as the tap handles.  a club from sacremento, Barley Legal, erected a whole saloon that was kick-ass.  they won the Golden Urinal award for bringing the most kegs - somewhere north of 100, probably around 150.  the theme for our club, the DC Homebrewers, was "occupy beer", protesting bad beer, "fermentation without representation", "we are the 5.8% (abv)", etc.  i can't even begin to decide what was the best beer that i tasted.  it was all awesome - a raspberry berliner wiesse, several barrel-aged RIS, lambics and geuzes, meads... it was beer nirvana.

friday night was the grand banquet which was a food pairing sponsored by Rogue.  at this point i was pretty beer'ed out.  the food, which was made with beer, was nice but the beer was merely OK: honey kolsch (new), american amber, rogenbier rye (new, i think), and the hazelnut brown. 

i also attended many seminars, got all sorts of free stuff from the vendor expo, traded beer, and drank more beer.  summer camp for beer dorks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 01, 2013, 02:17:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 01, 2013, 02:14:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 24, 2013, 03:43:41 pm
on wednesday night i'll be at this: http://phillytapfinder.com/event/brewing-networks-bna8/

looking forward to drinking Founder's Bolt Cutter & Doom, Moonlight Russian Imperial Braggot, Stone's Reason Be Damned, Weyerbacher Aquila & Insanity... at least i hope to taste all of these, we'll see how far i make it down that list.  supposedly there will also be some special meads from Moonlight Meadery.  

so i survived the National Homebrewer's Conference... still waiting to hear if stevewizzle made it back ;D

wednesday: the above-mentioned BNA8 party.  i liked the bolt cutter better than the doom.  the russian imperial braggot was insane. hop'solutely was surprisingly good.  tasted a number of other winners.  entertainment provided by The Trophy Fire (great power pop/rock) and the kids from the School of Rock (they melted faces).

thursday night was pro night, when the professionals brewers poured their wares in the grand convention hall.  best thing i tasted was Bitter Valentine, by Williamsburg AleWerks.  must have had at least 5 tastings of that.  the smaller breweries brought their A-game, some of the bigger boys phoned it in - Firestone Walker poured Wooky Jack, only, and the batch seemed off.  DFH had some great stuff on offer. Sam was serving for a while.

friday night was club night - the most fun i've had in a long while.  homebrew clubs decorate their tables with a theme and tried to out-serve everyone else.  a NYC club had 25 beers on tap.  a WV club had a kegerator that looked just like a mining wagon full of coal, with dynamite sticks as the tap handles.  a club from sacremento, Barley Legal, erected a whole saloon that was kick-ass.  they won the Golden Urinal award for bringing the most kegs - somewhere north of 100, probably around 150.  the theme for our club, the DC Homebrewers, was "occupy beer", protesting bad beer, "fermentation without representation", "we are the 5.8% (abv)", etc.  i can't even begin to decide what was the best beer that i tasted.  it was all awesome - a raspberry berliner wiesse, several barrel-aged RIS, lambics and geuzes, meads... it was beer nirvana.

friday night was the grand banquet which was a food pairing sponsored by Rogue.  at this point i was pretty beer'ed out.  the food, which was made with beer, was nice but the beer was merely OK: honey kolsch (new), american amber, rogenbier rye (new, i think), and the hazelnut brown. 

i also attended many seminars, got all sorts of free stuff from the vendor expo, traded beer, and drank more beer.  summer camp for beer dorks.

If I was atomicfront, I'd say "that sounds awful."

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 01, 2013, 02:34:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 01, 2013, 02:17:08 pm

If I was atomicfront, I'd say "that sounds awful."



Actually I was going  to say that sounds great and I wish I knew about this in advance.  Why would I be against a home-brew convention? I have done about 12 batches at home this year.  Stop making everything about me.  You obsession with me is getting creepy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2013, 02:35:05 pm
Drink the District Beer Festival

Saturday, July 27 ? 11:00AM, 3:00PM, 7:00PM
Sunday, July 28 ? 11:00AM, 3:00PM

$20 (pre-sale/early bird only?)

What you get

    3 Hours of Unlimited Tastings of 50+ Beers
    Unlimited Full Pours of Bud Light & Shock Top
    Live Music, Lawn Games & Food Trucks

Take an unlimited tasting journey through more than 50 beers from around the world, dive into DC's most delicious food trucks, and enjoy awesome lawn games and live music on the main stage at this summer's Drink the District: Beer Edition, held on Saturday, July 27 and Sunday, July 28 in Mount Vernon Triangle. With this offer, you can snag tickets to your choice of five sessions, plus receive a commemorative tasting glass.

Be sure to buy early! The price will go up as sessions sell out.

Drink the District's Website
breweries
Devil?s Backbone Brewing Company
Tröegs Brewing Company
Smuttynose Brewing Company
Bold Rock Hard Cider
Victory Brewing Company
Goose Island
?and more!

    11 a.m. to 2 p.m. | Session 1 on Saturday
    3 to 6 p.m. | Session 2 on Saturday
    7 to 10 p.m. | Session 3 on Saturday
    11 a.m. to 2 p.m. | Session 4 on Sunday
    3 to 6 p.m. | Session 5 on Sunday

https://livingsocial.com/events/cities/1709-washington-d-c-citywide/722178-drink-the-district-beer-festival
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2013, 02:59:05 pm
i'm pretty sure even a'front would have liked it - there were plenty of german-style beers being poured.  someone i met & hung with at the conference won a bronze medal for his classic american pilsner.  our table went nuts when they called his name at the banquet.  definitely one of the fun things about that last big event - pulling & cheering for your buddies, even if you only met them 48 hours ago.

a'front, if you can, try to attend a NHC (http://www.ahaconference.org/).  such a blast: you learn a lot, meet amazing people (tons of drinking, zero altercations or even harsh words), get tons of free stuff, and drink the most amazing beer (all unlimited pours...  :o).  next year's edition will be in Grand Rapids, MI.  lots of good breweries to visit while there: founders, jolly pumpkin, dark horse, bell's, hopcat, right brain, new holland, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 01, 2013, 11:16:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 01, 2013, 02:14:38 pm
so i survived the National Homebrewer's Conference... still waiting to hear if stevewizzle made it back ;D

things that survived:
me

things that did not survive:
a can of beer that exploded in my backpack
my phone
my lunch on friday
my pride
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2013, 01:35:33 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 01, 2013, 11:16:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 01, 2013, 02:14:38 pm
so i survived the National Homebrewer's Conference... still waiting to hear if stevewizzle made it back ;D

things that survived:
me

things that did not survive:
a can of beer that exploded in my backpack
my phone
my lunch on friday
my pride

POTM.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 02, 2013, 04:37:45 pm
when i watch this, i think of atomicfront.  you know . . . i bet hes pretty cool in person.  people on computers are always opposites of their forumer self.  somebody told me that once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sm8JM-K1dc&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 03, 2013, 11:28:32 am
From Deadspin:

 36 Cheap American Beers, Ranked  (http://deadspin.com/36-cheap-american-beers-ranked-638820035)

Or maybe that should be 36 rank American beers 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Stillwater on July 03, 2013, 11:45:51 am
Heading up to The Alchemist on Saturday... first time.  I'll report back after the weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 03, 2013, 12:10:06 pm
The Saturday of the Fourth of July Weekend when they can on Monday's and Wednesday's? In spite of a two case limit (this week only, I think) per person, I'd be surprised if they had any beer left. Check their twitter and facebook pages.

Quote from: Stillwater on July 03, 2013, 11:45:51 am
Heading up to The Alchemist on Saturday... first time.  I'll report back after the weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 03, 2013, 01:01:41 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 03, 2013, 12:10:06 pm
The Saturday of the Fourth of July Weekend when they can on Monday's and Wednesday's? In spite of a two case limit (this week only, I think) per person, I'd be surprised if they had any beer left. Check their twitter and facebook pages.

Quote from: Stillwater on July 03, 2013, 11:45:51 am
Heading up to The Alchemist on Saturday... first time.  I'll report back after the weekend.

I was going to say the same thing. You'll be able to still have tastings and beers on draft there, but won't be able to purchase any cases.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Stillwater on July 03, 2013, 02:41:01 pm
Gggaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 03, 2013, 02:48:17 pm
Quote from: Stillwater on July 03, 2013, 02:41:01 pm
Gggaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

oh . . . there you are.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 03, 2013, 05:40:00 pm
Going to Flying Dog tomorrow for the brewery tour.  You have to like this rule:

3. Don't bring your baby.

?All of our tours and events at the brewery are for those 21 and older.
?This includes small children and babies, so get a babysitter: Call your mother-in-law, cash in a favor, or bribe with the totally amazing beer you'll be bringing home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 03, 2013, 06:47:46 pm
i like people who bring their children to things . . . because i realize they are miserable and i feel good about that.  how, very.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 03, 2013, 08:19:02 pm
As mediocre as their beer is, it doesn't seem like they should be trying to shed business like that. I'm not buying any more Flying Dog!

Quote from: atomicfront on July 03, 2013, 05:40:00 pm
Going to Flying Dog tomorrow for the brewery tour.  You have to like this rule:

3. Don't bring your baby.

?All of our tours and events at the brewery are for those 21 and older.
?This includes small children and babies, so get a babysitter: Call your mother-in-law, cash in a favor, or bribe with the totally amazing beer you'll be bringing home.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 06, 2013, 01:49:09 pm
From the Alchemist Facebook page:

Attention fans: We have decided to keep a case purchase limit of 2/person in place for the summer. We hate to limit folks who travel to Vermont to stock up on Heady and share with friends, but even with our new increased capacity, we continue to sell out weekly. We hope to lift this limit sometime in the future, but for now it will help us and our loyal retailers stay stocked for as long as possible. Thanks for understanding and cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 06, 2013, 06:04:43 pm
Going up to Troegs for a tour tomorrow.  Child-free tour hopefully!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 06, 2013, 07:33:44 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 06, 2013, 01:49:09 pm
From the Alchemist Facebook page:

Attention fans: We have decided to keep a case purchase limit of 2/person in place for the summer. We hate to limit folks who travel to Vermont to stock up on Heady and share with friends, but even with our new increased capacity, we continue to sell out weekly. We hope to lift this limit sometime in the future, but for now it will help us and our loyal retailers stay stocked for as long as possible. Thanks for understanding and cheers!

driving to vermont . . . to get beer?

thats like going to amsterdam . . . to smoke pot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 09:38:57 am
Quote from: walkonby on July 06, 2013, 07:33:44 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 06, 2013, 01:49:09 pm
From the Alchemist Facebook page:

Attention fans: We have decided to keep a case purchase limit of 2/person in place for the summer. We hate to limit folks who travel to Vermont to stock up on Heady and share with friends, but even with our new increased capacity, we continue to sell out weekly. We hope to lift this limit sometime in the future, but for now it will help us and our loyal retailers stay stocked for as long as possible. Thanks for understanding and cheers!

driving to vermont . . . to get beer?

thats like going to amsterdam . . . to smoke pot.

At least in Amsterdam they have the Van Gogh Museum. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 09:45:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 03, 2013, 08:19:02 pm
As mediocre as their beer is, it doesn't seem like they should be trying to shed business like that. I'm not buying any more Flying Dog!

Quote from: atomicfront on July 03, 2013, 05:40:00 pm
Going to Flying Dog tomorrow for the brewery tour.  You have to like this rule:

3. Don't bring your baby.

?All of our tours and events at the brewery are for those 21 and older.
?This includes small children and babies, so get a babysitter: Call your mother-in-law, cash in a favor, or bribe with the totally amazing beer you'll be bringing home.


I am sure they will miss the one draft you buy a year.   There Woody Creek Wit is superior.  Their In-Heat Wheat is pretty good.  I also enjoy their Oyster Stout.  They had a Black Wit on tap at the brewery that was mediocre at best. I pinnaple Session that I did not care for.  The Snake Dog in the Firkin was tasty.  They are definitely a high volume Brewer. 

The best part of the tour was the stories of Hunter S Thomposon who lived on the brewery's founders ranch.  They let you taste the brew at each stage.  Nice tasting area. Probably worth a visit if you like touring breweries.

I went to the Heavy Seas ale house and had some of their Red Sky at Night on Firkin.  Absolutely amazing.  Firkin beer is so much better.  I guess that is why I like my own brews better than store bought.  Pasteurization, Forced Carbonization, and Filtering ruins the taste of beer. All beer should be firkin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:37:54 am
I wonder what will happen to that Brewery in Vermont when the IPA fad ends.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 08, 2013, 10:40:10 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:37:54 am
I wonder what will happen to that Brewery in Vermont when the IPA fad ends.   

The brewer's life will still be better than yours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:41:11 am
Quote from: Yada on July 08, 2013, 10:40:10 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:37:54 am
I wonder what will happen to that Brewery in Vermont when the IPA fad ends.   

The brewer's life will still be better than yours.

Really?  I doubt it.  He lives in Vermont. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 10:53:11 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:37:54 am
I wonder what will happen to that Brewery in Vermont when the IPA fad ends.  

a'front, can we make a bet on the non-fadness of IPAs?  because they're here to stay.  how about something like: i bet you $<insert dollar amount here> that in 2 years, IPAs will still be the highest selling style of craft beer. 

shake?  i want your money.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:05:29 am
You live in Baltimore.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:41:11 am
Quote from: Yada on July 08, 2013, 10:40:10 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:37:54 am
I wonder what will happen to that Brewery in Vermont when the IPA fad ends.   

The brewer's life will still be better than yours.

Really?  I doubt it.  He lives in Vermont. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 11:06:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 10:53:11 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:37:54 am
I wonder what will happen to that Brewery in Vermont when the IPA fad ends.  

a'front, can we make a bet on the non-fadness of IPAs?  because they're here to stay.  how about something like: i bet you $<insert dollar amount here> that in 2 years, IPAs will still be the highest selling style of craft beer. 

shake?  i want your money.


It is a fad.  Fads can last two years.  But in five years it will be gone.  It will go the way of parachute pants and cabbage patch kids.  Obviously a fad because even mediocre at best IPA's are the best selling beers at the area craft breweries.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 11:07:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:05:29 am
You live in Baltimore.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:41:11 am
Quote from: Yada on July 08, 2013, 10:40:10 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:37:54 am
I wonder what will happen to that Brewery in Vermont when the IPA fad ends.   

The brewer's life will still be better than yours.

Really?  I doubt it.  He lives in Vermont. 

Yeah home to the best music scene in the country.  At least I live in a city.  You live in a god-awful suburb. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 08, 2013, 11:18:17 am
This weekend I went to:

New Belgian Brewery
Odell's Brewery
Funkwerks Brewery
Equinox Brewery
Fort Collins Brewery
Big Beaver Brewery

I thought of all of you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 11:21:27 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 11:06:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 10:53:11 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:37:54 am
I wonder what will happen to that Brewery in Vermont when the IPA fad ends.  

a'front, can we make a bet on the non-fadness of IPAs?  because they're here to stay.  how about something like: i bet you $<insert dollar amount here> that in 2 years, IPAs will still be the highest selling style of craft beer. 

shake?  i want your money.


It is a fad.  Fads can last two years.  But in five years it will be gone.  It will go the way of parachute pants and cabbage patch kids.  Obviously a fad because even mediocre at best IPA's are the best selling beers at the area craft breweries.  

a "fad" does not last 2 years.  a fad is a flash in the pan, a few months tops.

IPAs are here to stay.  Garrett Oliver - who, i dare say, knows a lot more about the beer market than you - said that the "IPA fad" was temporary... in 2009.  IPAs have been leading the charge ever since, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.  you'll forgive me if i discount your opinion on the matter.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 11:22:10 am
Quote from: vansmack on July 08, 2013, 11:18:17 am
This weekend I went to:

New Belgian Brewery
Odell's Brewery
Funkwerks Brewery
Equinox Brewery
Fort Collins Brewery
Big Beaver Brewery

I thought of all of you.

really?!?  were you held hostage on some sort of brewery tour?!? ;D

sounds awesome.  taste anything good?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:28:18 am
Nice. Any favorites among that bunch? Good for you that you were in Fort Collins and hit those and skipped Anheiser Busch.

Denver/Fort Collins/ Boulder/ Rocky Mountain National Park is our likely family vacation destination in 2014. For the hiking of course. Wouldn't want to be one of those guys who plans a vacation based on beer.

Quote from: vansmack on July 08, 2013, 11:18:17 am
This weekend I went to:

New Belgian Brewery
Odell's Brewery
Funkwerks Brewery
Equinox Brewery
Fort Collins Brewery
Big Beaver Brewery

I thought of all of you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:29:33 am
I lived in Baltimore City for two years. That was enough for me.  ;)


Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 11:07:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:05:29 am
You live in Baltimore.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:41:11 am
Quote from: Yada on July 08, 2013, 10:40:10 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 10:37:54 am
I wonder what will happen to that Brewery in Vermont when the IPA fad ends.   

The brewer's life will still be better than yours.

Really?  I doubt it.  He lives in Vermont. 

Yeah home to the best music scene in the country.  At least I live in a city.  You live in a god-awful suburb. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:39:18 am
The popularity of sours is a passing fad. Like it or not, the popularity of IPA's are here to stay.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 12:02:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:39:18 am
The popularity of sours is a passing fad. Like it or not, the popularity of IPA's are here to stay.

I guess this means people don't have minds of their own and blindly follow what other do.  Sad. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 12:19:35 pm
Hunter S Thompson was a douchebag.

And if you think Woody Creek Wit is "superior", you surely haven't tried St Bernardus Wit, Ommegang Witte, or Allagash White. Because it aint superior to any of those.


Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 09:45:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 03, 2013, 08:19:02 pm
As mediocre as their beer is, it doesn't seem like they should be trying to shed business like that. I'm not buying any more Flying Dog!

Quote from: atomicfront on July 03, 2013, 05:40:00 pm
Going to Flying Dog tomorrow for the brewery tour.  You have to like this rule:

3. Don't bring your baby.

?All of our tours and events at the brewery are for those 21 and older.
?This includes small children and babies, so get a babysitter: Call your mother-in-law, cash in a favor, or bribe with the totally amazing beer you'll be bringing home.


I am sure they will miss the one draft you buy a year.   There Woody Creek Wit is superior.  Their In-Heat Wheat is pretty good.  I also enjoy their Oyster Stout.  They had a Black Wit on tap at the brewery that was mediocre at best. I pinnaple Session that I did not care for.  The Snake Dog in the Firkin was tasty.  They are definitely a high volume Brewer. 

The best part of the tour was the stories of Hunter S Thomposon who lived on the brewery's founders ranch.  They let you taste the brew at each stage.  Nice tasting area. Probably worth a visit if you like touring breweries.

I went to the Heavy Seas ale house and had some of their Red Sky at Night on Firkin.  Absolutely amazing.  Firkin beer is so much better.  I guess that is why I like my own brews better than store bought.  Pasteurization, Forced Carbonization, and Filtering ruins the taste of beer. All beer should be firkin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 12:21:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 12:19:35 pm
Hunter S Thompson was a douchebag.

And if you think Woody Creek Wit is "superior", you surely haven't tried St Bernardus Wit, Ommegang Witte, or Allagash White. Because it aint superior to any of those.


Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 09:45:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 03, 2013, 08:19:02 pm
As mediocre as their beer is, it doesn't seem like they should be trying to shed business like that. I'm not buying any more Flying Dog!

Quote from: atomicfront on July 03, 2013, 05:40:00 pm
Going to Flying Dog tomorrow for the brewery tour.  You have to like this rule:

3. Don't bring your baby.

?All of our tours and events at the brewery are for those 21 and older.
?This includes small children and babies, so get a babysitter: Call your mother-in-law, cash in a favor, or bribe with the totally amazing beer you'll be bringing home.


I am sure they will miss the one draft you buy a year.   There Woody Creek Wit is superior.  Their In-Heat Wheat is pretty good.  I also enjoy their Oyster Stout.  They had a Black Wit on tap at the brewery that was mediocre at best. I pinnaple Session that I did not care for.  The Snake Dog in the Firkin was tasty.  They are definitely a high volume Brewer. 

The best part of the tour was the stories of Hunter S Thomposon who lived on the brewery's founders ranch.  They let you taste the brew at each stage.  Nice tasting area. Probably worth a visit if you like touring breweries.

I went to the Heavy Seas ale house and had some of their Red Sky at Night on Firkin.  Absolutely amazing.  Firkin beer is so much better.  I guess that is why I like my own brews better than store bought.  Pasteurization, Forced Carbonization, and Filtering ruins the taste of beer. All beer should be firkin.

Where did you get that list? Beer Advocate?  You said you don't even like Wits so I know you didn't do a taste comparison.  And I have had the St.  Bernardus and the Allagash White.  Those are both awesome.  That doesn't make Flying Dog's not superior to beers in general.  Plus it is local.  The Woody Creek Wit is Flying Dog's best brew IMHO.  I am guessing you haven't even tasted it.  And are just talking out your ass again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 08, 2013, 12:23:25 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q89/971304_10153019569945038_1912354456_n.jpg)

Have to say, the hopslam a few months later tasted pretty good, better than it did back in March.

Some of the local yocals up here in PA were so blown away by Heady Topper, they didn't know what to do with themselves.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 08, 2013, 01:10:44 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 12:02:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:39:18 am
The popularity of sours is a passing fad. Like it or not, the popularity of IPA's are here to stay.

I guess this means people don't have minds of their own and blindly follow what other do.  Sad. 

Well, I was drinking IPAs long before I ever started posting here, so I'm not following anybody.  Unless....unless you are following ME!! (http://youtu.be/y8Kyi0WNg40)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 01:34:27 pm
Yada, is that you on the left or right?

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2sadk0i.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 08, 2013, 01:36:46 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 12:02:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:39:18 am
The popularity of sours is a passing fad. Like it or not, the popularity of IPA's are here to stay.

I guess this means people don't have minds of their own and blindly follow what other do.  Sad. 

this week, in scumbag atomicfront...

the lumineers and of monster of men are very popular, you must have bad taste in music.
(http://www.brobible.com/files/archive/images/videos/scumbag-steve.png)
a lot of people like IPAs? sad they don't have a mind of their own.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 01:54:46 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 08, 2013, 01:36:46 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 12:02:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:39:18 am
The popularity of sours is a passing fad. Like it or not, the popularity of IPA's are here to stay.

I guess this means people don't have minds of their own and blindly follow what other do.  Sad. 

this week, in scumbag atomicfront...

the lumineers and of monster of men are very popular, you must have bad taste in music.

a lot of people like IPAs? sad they don't have a mind of their own.

yeah, that occurred to me recently: he justifies his musical tastes by saying "my bands are popular, lots of people like them"... but when it comes to beer, if you drink anything popular you don't have a mind of your own.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 02:02:16 pm
And if you don't like Willie Nelson, I aint got no good thoughts for ya!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 08, 2013, 02:10:59 pm
pot  versus  beer  ?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 08, 2013, 02:20:44 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 01:34:27 pm
Yada, is that you on the left or right?

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2sadk0i.jpg)

dude on the left.  ;D





Quote from: walkonby on July 08, 2013, 02:10:59 pm
pot  versus  beer  ?

beer that tastes like good pot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 08, 2013, 02:34:22 pm
http://www.today.com/entertainment/actor-chris-pratt-ditches-beer-6-months-shows-results-6C10566691

stop drinking beer . . . look like that guy. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 02:53:09 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 08, 2013, 02:34:22 pm
http://www.today.com/entertainment/actor-chris-pratt-ditches-beer-6-months-shows-results-6C10566691

stop drinking beer . . . look like that guy. 

yeah, smoke pot instead... that'll get you a ripped body (pass the doritos, and what's on TV dude? ;D)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 02:54:45 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 08, 2013, 01:36:46 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 12:02:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:39:18 am
The popularity of sours is a passing fad. Like it or not, the popularity of IPA's are here to stay.

I guess this means people don't have minds of their own and blindly follow what other do.  Sad. 

this week, in scumbag atomicfront...

the lumineers and of monster of men are very popular, you must have bad taste in music.
(http://www.brobible.com/files/archive/images/videos/scumbag-steve.png)
a lot of people like IPAs? sad they don't have a mind of their own.

No I never said that all.  I only defended my opinion when people said that my taste in music is so terrible. As for IPA's I don't have any problem with people liking them.  But at least like good ones.  Whenever every craft breweries most popular brew is an IPA that is what I am taking exception to.  When someone puts out a shitty IPA but actually makes decent brews in a different variety that doesn't sell a quarter of what the shitty IPA sells.

For example Dogfish Head awesome IPA. Flying Dog Raging Bitch shitty IPA.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 02:55:24 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 08, 2013, 02:34:22 pm
http://www.today.com/entertainment/actor-chris-pratt-ditches-beer-6-months-shows-results-6C10566691

stop drinking beer . . . look like that guy. 

He is funnier when he is a little bit pudgy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 03:10:21 pm
I think you're comparing apples to oranges when you compare 60 Minutes to Raging Bitch.

The first is an American style IPA, the second is a Belgian IPA. The correct comparison you want is 60 Minutes vs. Snake Dog.

And all three of them fall well short of fantastic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 03:23:25 pm
I like how the beer you are always going on and on about says to drink it out of the can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 03:26:20 pm
I pour it into the proper glassware. I'd never drink from a can or a bottle.

See, I think for myself.


Quote from: atomicfront on July 08, 2013, 03:23:25 pm
I like how the beer you are always going on and on about says to drink it out of the can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 08, 2013, 06:08:54 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 11:22:10 am
really?!?  were you held hostage on some sort of brewery tour?!? ;D

When it comes to women, clearly my hypocrisy knows no boundaries.  Her family lives outside of Fort Collins and wine tasting in the area seemed like a really bad idea.  I figured the worst that could happen is that I could just eat a bunch of fried food.  WRONG.  Turns out in CO if you have tasting, you can't serve food.  So I just drank a bunch of beer.

Quote from: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 11:22:10 am
sounds awesome.  taste anything good?

I took a photo at every place we went with the list of beers they were tasting.  Some were good, some were bad.  I tend to avoid wheat based beers for health reasons, had some decent IPA's, some really nice nut-brown ale's, liked New Belgian and Equinox the most, didn't quite understand Funkwerks though their collaboration was nice, and would like to be part of the "beer naming group" at Big Beaver.


Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:28:18 am
Nice. Any favorites among that bunch? Good for you that you were in Fort Collins and hit those and skipped Anheiser Busch.

Miller would have been tempting, AB was not.  Was told that there's a difference between "Coors" and "Banquet Coors" though, which I think is BS.

As far as favorites, it's hard to say.  I knew when I had a beer I didn't like, that's for sure.  At New Belgian I really liked the 1554, Sunshine and Rolle Bolle.  At Funkwerks the aforementioned Fort Collins Collaboration 2013.  At Equinox the Flux Capacitator, Cumulis Wit and whatever their nut brown was called.  At Big Beaver, the names are all awesome, and I liked the Beaver Crew English Pale, Bust-a-Nut Brown Ale and the Big Woody 3.0 Ale. 

Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:28:18 am
Denver/Fort Collins/ Boulder/ Rocky Mountain National Park is our likely family vacation destination in 2014. For the hiking of course. Wouldn't want to be one of those guys who plans a vacation based on beer.

I go there 2-3 times a year these days and have enjoyed myself every time.  I prefer late spring and late summer as I'm not a snow guy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 08, 2013, 06:09:49 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 08, 2013, 11:39:18 am
The popularity of sours is a passing fad. Like it or not, the popularity of IPA's are here to stay.

Oh yeah, and this.  Sours are terrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 08, 2013, 08:23:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 08, 2013, 02:53:09 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 08, 2013, 02:34:22 pm
http://www.today.com/entertainment/actor-chris-pratt-ditches-beer-6-months-shows-results-6C10566691

stop drinking beer . . . look like that guy. 

yeah, smoke pot instead... that'll get you a ripped body (pass the doritos, and what's on TV dude? ;D)

i dont promote smoking pot.  it is so bad for you.  worse for you than beer, unfortunately.  i just enjoy hearing people rationalizing which is better.  i think either or is a valid arguement.  except that smoke beats liquid, and kills you quicker.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:19:36 pm
A friend of mine at lunch told me that IPA's are dead.  They have peaked and they are now headed down and craft Cider is the new thing. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 09, 2013, 01:22:22 pm
ciders are for fags who arent man enough to drink real beer . . . and im a fag, so i can say fag and can appoint who or who isnt one, so there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 09, 2013, 01:24:11 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 09, 2013, 01:22:22 pm
ciders are for fags who arent man enough to drink real beer . . . and im a fag, so i can say fag and can appoint who or who isnt one, so there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS6Ycu148O0
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:25:53 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 09, 2013, 01:22:22 pm
ciders are for fags who arent man enough to drink real beer . . . and im a fag, so i can say fag and can appoint who or who isnt one, so there.

Well over half the population aren't men. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 09, 2013, 01:31:09 pm
women, can be fags who drink faggy cider, as well.  so there, again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 09, 2013, 01:44:19 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:19:36 pm
A friend of mine at lunch told me that IPA's are dead.  They have peaked and they are now headed down and craft Cider is the new thing. 

and why do you believe your friend, any more than people on this board who a) live and breath beer, and b) are firm in their belief that IPAs are here to stay?  is he a brewer, bar owner, etc?  or are you quoting someone simply because you found another uninformed opinion that is the same as yours?

cider?  really?  i'd was interested in hearing your friend's argument, but the fact that he followed it up with the statement that cider is the next big thing completely invalidates his opinion in my eyes.  cider has been trying for years.  ain't gonna happen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 09, 2013, 01:44:19 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:19:36 pm
A friend of mine at lunch told me that IPA's are dead.  They have peaked and they are now headed down and craft Cider is the new thing. 

and why do you believe your friend, any more than people on this board who a) live and breath beer, and b) are firm in their belief that IPAs are here to stay?  is he a brewer, bar owner, etc?  or are you quoting someone simply because you found another uninformed opinion that is the same as yours?

cider?  really?  i'd was interested in hearing your friend's argument, but the fact that he followed it up with the statement that cider is the next big thing completely invalidates his opinion in my eyes.  cider has been trying for years.  ain't gonna happen.

Actually my wife just brought home some local craft cider the other day.  It was undrinkable.   How would the people on here be more informed than my friend.  I saw a lot of people drinking Strongbow cider last night at the bar I went to.  I think it is going to be the next big thing.  I should start brewing some.  Seems simple enough.  Get cider add yeast. 

And you guys probably thought grunge was here to stay. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:55:00 pm
"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

Among the impressive assortment of beer taps at Two Brothers Tavern in Middlebury, Vt., for example, is one that is bright green and shaped like an apple. "Sales have probably doubled, tripled in the last two or three years," says Two Brothers bartender Andy Buxton. "It used to be nothing. But nowadays probably 30 percent of people who are coming in here are demanding cider, not just asking for it. Even our locals who are drinking Budweiser are starting to switch over to a little bit of cider."

Hmm you guys are probably going to have to travel up to Vermont for some Cider next. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:57:04 pm
"Andrea Riberi, a beverage analyst for Nielsen, the market research firm, says it helps that cider appeals to both sexes. It's gluten free and seen as something new. "People who were born in the '80s and '90s ? which we call millennials ? they really want what's new, they're always looking for the next big thing," she says."

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 09, 2013, 04:24:44 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
How would the people on here be more informed than my friend. 

i don't know - you haven't identified your friend and why he'd know more than (or even as much as) anyone else.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
I should start brewing some.  Seems simple enough.  Get cider add yeast. 

you should!  it is indeed pretty easy, but different than beer brewing.  there is a whole deal of stopping fermentation at a the right time if you want to retain any residual sweetness (or using an unfermentable sugar like lactose).  you can add flavors to your cider by including things like cinnamon.  most folks age their cider like a wine - i've tasted home-brewed cider and they've always been a year old, or older.  i've never had a young cider but apparently they can be harsh.  they mellow out with time.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:55:00 pm
"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

published on November 08, 2012 (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/11/08/164599735/americans-rediscover-the-kick-of-hard-cider), 8 months ago - where is this huge wave of cider that is taking over the world?  i don't see any more cider available in bars now that i did a year ago. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 09, 2013, 04:32:40 pm
As long as we agree that cider is for girls, I'm fine with seeing sales increase.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 04:34:07 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 09, 2013, 04:24:44 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
How would the people on here be more informed than my friend. 

i don't know - you haven't identified your friend and why he'd know more than (or even as much as) anyone else.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
I should start brewing some.  Seems simple enough.  Get cider add yeast. 

you should!  it is indeed pretty easy, but different than beer brewing.  there is a whole deal of stopping fermentation at a the right time if you want to retain any residual sweetness (or using an unfermentable sugar like lactose).  you can add flavors to your cider by including things like cinnamon.  most folks age their cider like a wine - i've tasted home-brewed cider and they've always been a year old, or older.  i've never had a young cider but apparently they can be harsh.  they mellow out with time.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:55:00 pm
"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

published on November 08, 2012 (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/11/08/164599735/americans-rediscover-the-kick-of-hard-cider), 8 months ago - where is this huge wave of cider that is taking over the world?  i don't see any more cider available in bars now that i did a year ago. 

So if stop fermentation you can't naturally carbonate.  Well apple season is a few months away.  I have my juicer ready.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 09, 2013, 06:26:39 pm
i just bought another crazy fuck load of founders double trouble, and hoptimum.  i guess that means, i like sierra nevada now, after thinking they were shit for some reason for years.  it was torpedo that began the turn. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 09, 2013, 07:13:14 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:19:36 pm
A friend of mine at lunch told me that IPA's are dead.  They have peaked and they are now headed down and craft Cider is the new thing. 

today in scumbag atomicfront...

talks about how his friend tells him IPA's are dead and cider is the new thing.
(http://www.brobible.com/files/archive/images/videos/scumbag-steve.png)
ignores all the articles out there saying IPAs are the most popular and fastest growing beer, cherry-picks quotes from an article about cider.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:55:00 pm
"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

Among the impressive assortment of beer taps at Two Brothers Tavern in Middlebury, Vt., for example, is one that is bright green and shaped like an apple. "Sales have probably doubled, tripled in the last two or three years," says Two Brothers bartender Andy Buxton. "It used to be nothing. But nowadays probably 30 percent of people who are coming in here are demanding cider, not just asking for it. Even our locals who are drinking Budweiser are starting to switch over to a little bit of cider." 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 11:52:53 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 09, 2013, 07:13:14 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:19:36 pm
A friend of mine at lunch told me that IPA's are dead.  They have peaked and they are now headed down and craft Cider is the new thing. 

today in scumbag atomicfront...

talks about how his friend tells him IPA's are dead and cider is the new thing.
(http://www.brobible.com/files/archive/images/videos/scumbag-steve.png)
ignores all the articles out there saying IPAs are the most popular and fastest growing beer, cherry-picks quotes from an article about cider.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 01:55:00 pm
"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

Among the impressive assortment of beer taps at Two Brothers Tavern in Middlebury, Vt., for example, is one that is bright
green and shaped like an apple. "Sales have probably doubled, tripled in the last two or three years," says Two Brothers bartender Andy Buxton. "It used to bebe nothing. But nowada




little
s probably 30 percent of people who are coming in here are demanding cider, not just asking for it. Even our locals who are drinking Budweiser are starting to switch over to a little bit of cider." 

You are acting as much of a little birch as James.Ford now...do you have a desire to discuss beers or you are you going to post stupid  shit like this all the time? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 10, 2013, 12:54:03 am
Quote from: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 11:52:53 pm
You are acting as much of a little birch as James.Ford now...

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on July 10, 2013, 09:45:09 am
If you guys could ignore atomicfront and his idiotic cries for attention, you could actually have a real discussion about beer...

I had some 2.5 year old Breakfast Stout this weekend, it was pretty bad. I do not suggest aging that one, I don't know why I thought it would get better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 10, 2013, 10:17:51 am
Totally agree about the Breakfast Stout. I've held onto it for as long as a year, and even then it's not that good (still think that fresh it's amazing).
Quote from: fatskippy on July 10, 2013, 09:45:09 am
If you guys could ignore atomicfront and his idiotic cries for attention, you could actually have a real discussion about beer...

I had some 2.5 year old Breakfast Stout this weekend, it was pretty bad. I do not suggest aging that one, I don't know why I thought it would get better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 10, 2013, 10:48:56 am
Quote from: fatskippy on July 10, 2013, 09:45:09 am
If you guys could ignore atomicfront and his idiotic cries for attention, you could actually have a real discussion about beer...

I had some 2.5 year old Breakfast Stout this weekend, it was pretty bad. I do not suggest aging that one, I don't know why I thought it would get better.

Made that mistake too. Fresh/on draft is the way to go with that one.

Popped open a Heady last night. There's a reason why that beer is Number One. I'm already getting depressed that I only have three left.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2013, 11:47:15 am
Quote from: fatskippy on July 10, 2013, 09:45:09 am
If you guys could ignore atomicfront and his idiotic cries for attention, you could actually have a real discussion about beer just about anything...

One quick edit, but you're spot on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 10, 2013, 09:34:57 pm
had two at smoke and barrel tonight.

elysian space dust ipa
dc brau everday junglist

digged the space dust, didn't love the junglist.  friend had a stillwater stateside.  stillwater does saisons so well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 11, 2013, 08:35:59 am
Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 11, 2013, 08:55:57 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 11, 2013, 08:35:59 am
Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?
I picked up a 4 pack yesterday at Magruders - they had it (14.99) and DD (21.99) on the shelf. Have not opened it yet
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 11, 2013, 09:08:32 pm
speaking of founders . . . this sounds interesting.  my soon to be husband said, "wheres the chips, that sounds like salsa."  indeed.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/66912_10151456014251237_1550004039_n.jpg)

this is from their facebook site, so i hope the picture comes through.  for some reason i think facebook pictures posted on facebook dont show up here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2013, 01:31:17 am
did y'all see the latest churchkey/B&B newsletter?!?

Great Lakes Brewing Company 25th Anniversary
Tuesday, July 9 at 6 p.m. (missed, but i'm mentioning it anyways)

Sour Sessions, Vol. 7: 30 Wild Ales on Tap
Monday, July 15 at 6 p.m

Monday, July 22 at 4 p.m.:
The British are Coming: 22 Drafts & 7 Casks from Adnams, Brodie?s, Buxton, Wadworth, Ridgeway & Coniston (plus the 1 & only Buxton?s Tsar Bomba Cask in the USA)
 
Monday, July 29 at 7 p.m.
Birch & Barley hosts the Dogfish Head Ancient Ales Dinner: 5 Courses Paired with 7 Dogfish Ancient Ales
 
Monday, August 5 at 6 p.m.:
An Evening of Québécois Craft: 22 Cutting-Edge Drafts from Dieu du Ciel, Trou du Diable, Brasserie Dunham & Les Trois Mousquetaires
 
Friday, August 9 at 6 p.m.:
The 3 Stars Brewing Company 1 Year Anniversary Party featuring 20 Different 3 Stars Drafts & Casks
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 12, 2013, 08:48:54 am
I'll be in Montreal on the Quebec night. Hope they leave some of the good stuff up there for me!
 ;D
Quote from: sweetcell on July 12, 2013, 01:31:17 am
did y'all see the latest churchkey/B&B newsletter?!?

Great Lakes Brewing Company 25th Anniversary
Tuesday, July 9 at 6 p.m. (missed, but i'm mentioning it anyways)

Sour Sessions, Vol. 7: 30 Wild Ales on Tap
Monday, July 15 at 6 p.m

Monday, July 22 at 4 p.m.:
The British are Coming: 22 Drafts & 7 Casks from Adnams, Brodie?s, Buxton, Wadworth, Ridgeway & Coniston (plus the 1 & only Buxton?s Tsar Bomba Cask in the USA)
 
Monday, July 29 at 7 p.m.
Birch & Barley hosts the Dogfish Head Ancient Ales Dinner: 5 Courses Paired with 7 Dogfish Ancient Ales
 
Monday, August 5 at 6 p.m.:
An Evening of Québécois Craft: 22 Cutting-Edge Drafts from Dieu du Ciel, Trou du Diable, Brasserie Dunham & Les Trois Mousquetaires
 
Friday, August 9 at 6 p.m.:
The 3 Stars Brewing Company 1 Year Anniversary Party featuring 20 Different 3 Stars Drafts & Casks
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 12, 2013, 11:37:11 am
i should be there monday night for sour session, and the british event seems cool.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 12, 2013, 02:36:50 pm
this sounds horrible

Quote from: walkonby on July 11, 2013, 09:08:32 pm
speaking of founders . . . this sounds interesting.  my soon to be husband said, "wheres the chips, that sounds like salsa."  indeed.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/66912_10151456014251237_1550004039_n.jpg)

this is from their facebook site, so i hope the picture comes through.  for some reason i think facebook pictures posted on facebook dont show up here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 12, 2013, 04:16:16 pm
Quote from: brennser on July 11, 2013, 08:55:57 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 11, 2013, 08:35:59 am
Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?
I picked up a 4 pack yesterday at Magruders - they had it (14.99) and DD (21.99) on the shelf. Have not opened it yet

i have.  drinks like a lambic, hides alcohol well. its okay.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 12, 2013, 05:05:28 pm
Anyone know if they're serving DC Brau at Merriweather? Going to the show tonight but only saw it there at Sweetlife, and those were served at temporary bars just for that festival.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 12, 2013, 05:15:54 pm
yes . . . nice to know for sat and sun.  beer and phish; what could go wrong?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 15, 2013, 09:35:05 am
Has anyone been here yet?  Thinking about a trek out there Saturday.  Maybe also to hit up black ankle.

http://stillpointfarming.com/milkhouse_brewery_at_stillpoint_farm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 15, 2013, 09:37:46 am
found a new cheapest beer.. its called genesse i think...  not very good though.. had never seen it but shoppers has it... i hear their "Cream Ale" might be better...

$14.79 gets you 30 cans.. anyone can beat that?

 ;D

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 10:04:31 am
This thread is about quality, not quantity.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 15, 2013, 10:05:38 am
Quote from: hutch on July 15, 2013, 09:37:46 am
found a new cheapest beer.. its called genesse i think...  not very good though.. had never seen it but shoppers has it... i hear their "Cream Ale" might be better...

$14.79 gets you 30 cans.. anyone can beat that?

 ;D



You do not want me to drink beer with added lactose.  Trust me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 15, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
fellow beer snobs, any must haves on this list minus the obvious topper, lawsons, hf?

http://www.vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php

atomicfront, please don't give me your opinion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 01:22:40 pm
Those Dieu de Ciel beers will range from wonderfully interesting to wonderfully awesome (the Peche Mortel and Aphrodisiaque).

And of course Stone RuinTen and Enjoy By.

My knowledge of VT brewers beyonf the big three and the mediocre one are lacking. Though I should brush up since I'll be there in a few weeks.

Let us know what the standouts are!

Quote from: Yada on July 15, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
fellow beer snobs, any must haves on this list minus the obvious topper, lawsons, hf?

http://www.vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php

atomicfront, please don't give me your opinion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2013, 01:36:18 pm
no personal experience with any of these breweries, but a few interest me.

checkout vermont pub & breweries selection.  watermelon wheat sounds unique, and so does their sour IPA.

whetstone's away we gose too.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:21:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 15, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
fellow beer snobs, any must haves on this list minus the obvious topper, lawsons, hf?

http://www.vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php

atomicfront, please don't give me your opinion.

You are trolling. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:26:13 pm
Why, because he decided to do a beer vacation to Vermont instead of Munich?

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:21:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 15, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
fellow beer snobs, any must haves on this list minus the obvious topper, lawsons, hf?

http://www.vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php

atomicfront, please don't give me your opinion.

You are trolling. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 15, 2013, 02:27:28 pm
greatful hands makes some good stuff.  definitely catch dieu du ciel.  captain lawrence makes some interesting stuff (check out the Golden Delicious if they have it).

you can skip wolaver's and long trail.  decent beers but i've never had anything "wow" from them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:32:26 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:26:13 pm
Why, because he decided to do a beer vacation to Vermont instead of Munich?

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:21:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 15, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
fellow beer snobs, any must haves on this list minus the obvious topper, lawsons, hf?

http://www.vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php

atomicfront, please don't give me your opinion.

You are trolling. 

Because he told me to not give my opinion.   I would not give my opinion of beer I haven't drunk before.  If he is going there why does he need your opinion on what beer to drink anyway.  Just drink the beer and make your own opinion. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:45:49 pm
Perhaps there are certain people who post here whose beer opinion he respects. He's not going to be able to try everything, so why not get some suggestions.

But you know that, don't you. You're just trolling.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:32:26 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:26:13 pm
Why, because he decided to do a beer vacation to Vermont instead of Munich?

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:21:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 15, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
fellow beer snobs, any must haves on this list minus the obvious topper, lawsons, hf?

http://www.vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php

atomicfront, please don't give me your opinion.

You are trolling. 

Because he told me to not give my opinion.   I would not give my opinion of beer I haven't drunk before.  If he is going there why does he need your opinion on what beer to drink anyway.  Just drink the beer and make your own opinion. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 03:02:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:45:49 pm
Perhaps there are certain people who post here whose beer opinion he respects. He's not going to be able to try everything, so why not get some suggestions.

But you know that, don't you. You're just trolling.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:32:26 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:26:13 pm
Why, because he decided to do a beer vacation to Vermont instead of Munich?

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:21:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 15, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
fellow beer snobs, any must haves on this list minus the obvious topper, lawsons, hf?

http://www.vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php

atomicfront, please don't give me your opinion.

You are trolling. 

Because he told me to not give my opinion.   I would not give my opinion of beer I haven't drunk before.  If he is going there why does he need your opinion on what beer to drink anyway.  Just drink the beer and make your own opinion. 

He started trolling.  He tells me not to respond which is trolling.  Now the thread is about his trolling instead of him getting an opinion. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 15, 2013, 03:14:43 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 03:02:37 pm
He started trolling.  He tells me not to respond which is trolling.  Now the thread is about his trolling instead of him getting an opinion. 

And not at all about beer :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2013, 03:28:52 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 03:02:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:45:49 pm
Perhaps there are certain people who post here whose beer opinion he respects. He's not going to be able to try everything, so why not get some suggestions.

But you know that, don't you. You're just trolling.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:32:26 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:26:13 pm
Why, because he decided to do a beer vacation to Vermont instead of Munich?

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:21:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 15, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
fellow beer snobs, any must haves on this list minus the obvious topper, lawsons, hf?

http://www.vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php

atomicfront, please don't give me your opinion.

You are trolling. 

Because he told me to not give my opinion.   I would not give my opinion of beer I haven't drunk before.  If he is going there why does he need your opinion on what beer to drink anyway.  Just drink the beer and make your own opinion. 

He started trolling.  He tells me not to respond which is trolling.  Now the thread is about his trolling instead of him getting an opinion. 

this is why we have a troll thread, people.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 03:31:34 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 15, 2013, 03:28:52 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 03:02:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:45:49 pm
Perhaps there are certain people who post here whose beer opinion he respects. He's not going to be able to try everything, so why not get some suggestions.

But you know that, don't you. You're just trolling.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:32:26 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 02:26:13 pm
Why, because he decided to do a beer vacation to Vermont instead of Munich?

Quote from: atomicfront on July 15, 2013, 02:21:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 15, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
fellow beer snobs, any must haves on this list minus the obvious topper, lawsons, hf?

http://www.vtbrewfest.com/our_brewers.php

atomicfront, please don't give me your opinion.

You are trolling. 

Because he told me to not give my opinion.   I would not give my opinion of beer I haven't drunk before.  If he is going there why does he need your opinion on what beer to drink anyway.  Just drink the beer and make your own opinion. 

He started trolling.  He tells me not to respond which is trolling.  Now the thread is about his trolling instead of him getting an opinion. 

this is why we have a troll thread, people.

Sorry for feeding the trolls.  Next time I will use the troll thread. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 15, 2013, 03:36:28 pm
This weekend a friend brought over a Quintine Blonde.  I had high hopes, but something bad must have happened at some point in the past because it was completely flat :(

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/635/5069/?ba=corby112
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 15, 2013, 04:18:30 pm
Quote from: grateful on July 15, 2013, 03:36:28 pm
This weekend a friend brought over a Quintine Blonde.  I had high hopes, but something bad must have happened at some point in the past because it was completely flat :(

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/635/5069/?ba=corby112

bummer.  if it was a flip-top, the rubber gasket could have dried out, cracked and leaked.  if you're unlucky, bottle caps can leak too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2013, 04:22:55 pm
brewed an ipa one week ago with the heady topper yeast.  transferred and dry-hopped yesterday, and couldn't help but pull off an extra 12 oz to drink myself.

i must say, that yeast is absolutely incredible in the fact that it makes all the hop bitterness not seem harsh at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 15, 2013, 04:24:26 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 15, 2013, 04:18:30 pm
Quote from: grateful on July 15, 2013, 03:36:28 pm
This weekend a friend brought over a Quintine Blonde.  I had high hopes, but something bad must have happened at some point in the past because it was completely flat :(

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/635/5069/?ba=corby112

bummer.  if it was a flip-top, the rubber gasket could have dried out, cracked and leaked.  if you're unlucky, bottle caps can leak too.

It was a flip-top - and we assumed that the seal had been compromised at some point.  Unfortunately, it was $10 for 12 ounces...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 15, 2013, 06:26:54 pm
be on the lookout for special events at beer bars on Aug 1:

IPA Day Is Back: August 1, 2013
http://www.craftbeer.com/news/ipa-day-is-back-august-1-2013
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 15, 2013, 06:52:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 11, 2013, 08:35:59 am
Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?

it's on tap at the Big Hunt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 15, 2013, 06:59:54 pm
Thanks.

Funny I called my usual Total Wine and Whole Foods and they said they got none.

I called a second Total Wine and they told me they'd sell me one 12 oz bottle.

I called a third Total Wine and they said they had it but when I got there they had no clue and it took them awhile to find it. When they did, they asked, "How much do you want, a case?" I settled for a four pack.

Quote from: sweetcell on July 15, 2013, 06:52:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 11, 2013, 08:35:59 am
Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?

it's on tap at the Big Hunt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2013, 10:34:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 15, 2013, 06:52:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 11, 2013, 08:35:59 am
Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?

it's on tap at the Big Hunt.

did i miss u at the hunt tonite?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 16, 2013, 08:28:57 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 15, 2013, 10:34:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 15, 2013, 06:52:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 11, 2013, 08:35:59 am
Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?

it's on tap at the Big Hunt.

did i miss u at the hunt tonite?

nope, i said that based off their FB.  i wasn't there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on July 16, 2013, 08:36:59 am
I recently returned from a multi-week trip to Southern France and northern Spain, with a stint in Pamplona.  I didn't seek out beer bars in any of these places, but nevertheless tried every beer I did see and had roughly 40 different beers on the trip.

All of them were completely and utterly forgetable, with two exceptions.  As a caveat, this was not a beer trip and I did exactly zero research into beer for this trip, so this post is limited to things i just happen to see.

Meduz - http://www.meduz.fr/# - New local brewery in Uzes, France.  The Amber being the real winner and worth seeking out in the beer desert that is the Langudeoc Region of France.  Real smooth, very good full-bodied flavor, quite a surprise.

The Bear Brewery - http://thebearbrewery.com/ - This was the real find.  Way up in the mountains I literally stumbled across this brewery and all of their beers were quite excellent, except the Pilsner which was just another boring French lager.  Their brown and amber were both really good, unfiltered and bottle conditioned; I had to explain to my non-homebrewer friend that the sediment in the bottom was yeast and was fine.

Side note:  We had just hiked up a trail for a few hours and randomly found a field of goats and a guy who made chevre from the milk of said goats.  This guy was not wearing pants and his shirt was unbuttoned and he seemed like he hadn't bathed in several weeks.  So, naturally, we bought the freshest chevre he had and hiked back to our hotel and ate it with the Brown ale (from the Bear Brewery).  Best meal of the trip. Anyway, if ever on the France/Spain border and looking for a place to spend a day and stay, Prats de Mollo was a very pleasant surprise and has good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 16, 2013, 08:42:24 am
Wow, awesome post, Imbecile. Sounds like an awesome trip.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on July 16, 2013, 09:06:26 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 16, 2013, 08:42:24 am
Wow, awesome post, Imbecile. Sounds like an awesome trip.

Thanks.  It was a great trip.  But too effing hot, except for the small time spent in the mountains.  Unless you're going for San Fermin or to see the Tour de France, or some other event that requires you be in this area in late June/July, it's not worth it especially in Spain.  Oh yeah, and boatloads of tourists suchas myself.  But still, great trip.

The first night there (in Barcelona), I did have a Duff beer while out for a walk.  http://www.duffbeer.co.uk/ - I'd heard it mentioned a few times before and figured I'd try it just to say that i did.  Awful.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 16, 2013, 09:30:03 am
I can't decide if buying fresh goat cheese from a man with no pants is the best idea ever, or the worst.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 16, 2013, 12:27:37 pm
Seven beers from Lawson's at this festival!

Here is the full line up. Gettin' giddy.


http://www.vtbrewfest.com/pdfs/festival_guide.pdf

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 16, 2013, 02:22:40 pm
Heavy Seas Growler Launch Party!
http://www.hsbeer.com/growler-launch-party/
Includes Growler Fills & Beer Samples*
This Friday - July 19th  4 - 7 PM
 
We've got extrAARGHdinary news! For the first time ever, Heavy Seas will be filling growlers at our brewery with your favorite Heavy Seas beer! Thanks to changes in legislation, you can now take home 64 fluid ounces of the freshest draft beer that we offer directly from where it's made! Stop in anytime from 4 - 7 pm this Friday to get your growler filled & to join in the celebration!
 
*Souvenir pint glass & 5 beer samples for $5
 
After July 19th, our weekly growler filling hours will be:
 Thursdays & Fridays:  4 - 7 pm*
 Saturdays: Noon - 5 pm*
ONLY on Saturdays when public tours are scheduled
(visit www.HeavySeasBeer.com for tour dates)

*These hours are temporary.
We will establish a different set of hours after the opening of our new tasting room!
Please check our website, e-Newsletter, Facebook & Twitter for updates.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 16, 2013, 02:58:24 pm
reminder for those in need of some blue rock & beer this weekend:

 A celebration of all things Gonzo and the Good Doctor.

This Saturday, July 20, The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, with We Are Hex, will rock our outdoor stage for Gonzofest, our annual homage to Hunter S. Thompson.

"Buy the ticket, take the ride."

Tickets are $25 in advance, $30 at the door. We can't guarantee we'll have them at the door, so get yours now.

"Good people drink good beer."

On draft:

    Belgian Devil (world premiere of our August Brewhouse Rarities release)
    Brewhouse Rarities Pineapple Saison
    Brewhouse Rarities Easy IPA
    Natural Selection Ale (our collaboration with Evolution Brewing Co.)
    Gonzo Imperial Porter
    Woody Creek Belgian White
    Pearl Necklace Oyster Stout
    Doggie Style Pale Ale
    UnderDog Atlantic Lager
    Snake Dog IPA

On cask:

    Raging Bitch Belgian Style IPA with mango and habanero
    Pearl Necklace Oyster Stout in oak
    Pearl Necklace Oyster Stout with chocolate mint
    Dogtoberfest Marzen with basil, green peppercorn, and grains of paradise
    Snake Dog IPA with CTZ hops and cinnamon basil


"The food factor should always be massive."

    El Cuervo Tacos
    The Smoking Swine BBQ
    Wheyich Gourmet Sandwiches

Show is 21+ and a valid ID is required for entry. All beer is sold a la carte for $4 each. All food sold separately.

http://flyingdogales.com/ai1ec_event/summer-sessions-gonzofest/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 16, 2013, 06:21:48 pm
DC Beer Week is a celebration of good beer in the National Capital Region from conception to consumption and everyone and everything in between. DC Beer Week aims to educate all on good beer through various events and seminars from August 11th through the 18th. #DCBW2013

Events: http://dcbeerweek.net/flagship-events/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 16, 2013, 06:22:12 pm
Talking Pints: Local Beer Tastings with Brewers
LivingSocial's 918 F Street ? Washington, DC
https://livingsocial.com/events/cities/1-washington-d-c/774510-talking-pints-local-beer-tastings-with-brewers

    Thursday, July 25 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Friday, July 26 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Saturday, July 27 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Sunday, July 28 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Friday, August 2 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Sunday, August 4 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Wednesday, August 7 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Thursday, August 8 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM


What you get

    - Choice of Date and Featured Brewery
    - Tasting of Six Beers
    - Discussion + Q&A with the Brewmaster

In honor of DC Beer Week (August 11-18), LivingSocial's 918 F Street is bringing you this special brewmasters series leading up to all the sudsy events. Grab your ticket for a craft beer tasting and discussion with the folks behind the beer from one of these featured microbreweries:

Thursday, July 25
DC Brau Brewing Company or 3 Stars Brewing Company: Founded in 2009 -- making it the first production brewery within the capital's borders in more than 50 years -- DC Brau boasts some 40 brews and a cult following.

The District's third newest brewery, 3 Stars, debuted their first beers nearly a year ago with much praise from The Washington Post.

Friday, July 26
Fordham & Dominion Brewing Co.: These two award-winning Mid-Atlantic breweries came together and settled into Delaware back in 2007. With more than 40 years combined brewing experience they continue to produce handcrafted favorites like the Oak Barrel Stout, Double D IPA, Rams Head IPA, and Copperhead Ale.

Saturday, July 27
Evolution Craft Brewing Co.: This small-batch brewery operates out of a converted grocery store near Salisbury, tapping favorites like the Exile ESB English-style pale ale, Lot No3 IPA, Lucky 7 porter, and the Caribbean-style Rise Up stout.

Sunday, July 28
Capitol City Brewing Company: The first brewpub in DC since Prohibition, Cap City pours out four signature brews -- Capitol Kolsch, Pale Rider Ale, Amber Waves Ale, and Prohibition Porter -- and rotating seasonal brews accompanied by bar eats at their downtown and Shirlington locations.

Friday, August 2
Heavy Seas Beer: With a production brewery in Halethorpe and sales in 18 states as well as DC, Heavy Seas is growing -- and fast. The 17-year-old brewery produced more than 35,000 barrels of their flagship beer, Loose Cannon, and others just last year.

Sunday, August 4
Union Craft Brewing: Baltimore's first production brewery in more than 30 years, the year-old Union Craft operates in the city's historic Woodberry neighborhood. Their Balt Altbier won gold at Denver's Great American Beer Festival in the German Style Altbier category last year.

Wednesday, August 7
Mad Fox Brewing Company: This European-style gastropub in Falls Church -- touted as the DC area's "most award-winning brewpub" -- brews a rotating selection of cask lagers and ales on-site in German, English, Belgian, and American styles.

Thursday, August 8
Gordon Biersch with District ChopHouse & Brewery: Following the 16th-century Reinheitsgebot rules for brewing (ie, using only barley, hops, yeast, and water), Gordon Biersch has been producing German-style lagers -- including Marzen, Hefeweizen, and Blonde Bock -- at its 9th Street NW location for 13 years.

Since 1997, District ChopHouse & Brewery has been serving fresh hand-crafted beer in the setting of a '40s-era steakhouse. All of their beer is brewed on-site (except for special events and tastings).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 17, 2013, 12:22:57 am
Gordon Biersh is a microbrewery?  The rest of the places sound intersting but GB is a chain restaurant with bad food and bad beer.  We were in Columbus once heading to a decent restaurant and our Vice President sees us and tell us to go with him to Gordon Biersh.  5 years later I am still angry about this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 17, 2013, 12:54:17 pm
gordon biersh makes horrible beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 17, 2013, 02:29:32 pm
Gordon Biersch only makes lagers.  I prefer ales.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 17, 2013, 03:15:02 pm
Quote from: grateful on July 17, 2013, 02:29:32 pm
Gordon Biersch only makes lagers.  I prefer ales.

i was at a GB about a month ago, and they had a hefewiezen and a belgian golden strong on tap... so while they make mostly lagers, it appears they do make some ales.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 17, 2013, 05:11:05 pm
and their food, decor, the seats, the tables and windows and rugs on the floor . . . even the sidewalks outside, are tacky.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 17, 2013, 07:20:13 pm
GB is craft beer for people who don't drink beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 18, 2013, 09:59:00 am
Anyone know what's the latest with Bluejacket?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 18, 2013, 10:39:04 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 18, 2013, 09:59:00 am
Anyone know what's the latest with Bluejacket?

on their facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/bluejacketdc) last week, in response to someone asking when they are opening their doors, they replied: "Not a specific date, just later this summer."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on July 18, 2013, 10:40:09 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 18, 2013, 09:59:00 am
Anyone know what's the latest with Bluejacket?

They've been busy brewing and collaborating with Stone, Bend, 10Barrel, and Maine.
Still on construction, should be finish Aug 11. according to their twitter feed.

While Gordon Biersch isn't the greatest place, the all out hate is a little over the top and ignorant.

Lager's are my least favorite but I'll enjoy a Bock occasionally. They do an above average job at the style. I'd take their Maibock over Rogue Dead Guy any day.

They had an Eisenbock on tap a few weeks ago that was really good.

I think a 'meh' is more justified than 'blech' on their beer and the food/ambiance is still miles ahead of a Green Turtle. I'd also give them props for not ruining the Chophouse Brewing operation when they acquired them.




Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 10:49:03 am
How do you guys feel about Stone Farkin Wheaton? A 13% imperial wheat stout made in collaboration with actor/homebrewer Wil Wheaton?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on July 18, 2013, 10:58:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 10:49:03 am
How do you guys feel about Stone Farkin Wheaton? A 13% imperial wheat stout made in collaboration with actor/homebrewer Wil Wheaton?

I don't feel anything from a beer until I taste it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 11:22:55 am
Fair enough. Do you think good or bad thoughts when "wheat" and "imperial stout" are used in the same sentence...was what i was getting at.


Quote from: slappy on July 18, 2013, 10:58:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 10:49:03 am
How do you guys feel about Stone Farkin Wheaton? A 13% imperial wheat stout made in collaboration with actor/homebrewer Wil Wheaton?

I don't feel anything from a beer until I taste it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 18, 2013, 12:41:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 11:22:55 am
Fair enough. Do you think good or bad thoughts when "wheat" and "imperial stout" are used in the same sentence...was what i was getting at.

that's what struck me the most about that.  some think that wheat doesn't age well, if that's true then this would need to be drunk fresh... and generally imp stouts do better with some time on them.  if i found some, and it wasn't stupid expensive, i'd get some just to age it and see if there is anything to the "wheat doesn't age well" argument.

wheat has a very distinct taste, depending on how much the used in the recipe this could be a unique stout.

guess it's settled then, i'm getting some.  ford, have you seen any locally?  imma gonna make a few calls...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 18, 2013, 01:28:54 pm
Quote from: slappy on July 18, 2013, 10:40:09 am
While Gordon Biersch isn't the greatest place, the all out hate is a little over the top and ignorant.

dang some straight hate on GB!

the location at nats park is nice, and they use to have local brews on tap too.  i thought that was cool.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 01:37:32 pm
$9.99/bottle at Total Wine. $10.99 at Chevy Chase. MD will be getting some, but not available yet.

Quote from: sweetcell on July 18, 2013, 12:41:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 11:22:55 am
Fair enough. Do you think good or bad thoughts when "wheat" and "imperial stout" are used in the same sentence...was what i was getting at.

that's what struck me the most about that.  some think that wheat doesn't age well, if that's true then this would need to be drunk fresh... and generally imp stouts do better with some time on them.  if i found some, and it wasn't stupid expensive, i'd get some just to age it and see if there is anything to the "wheat doesn't age well" argument.

wheat has a very distinct taste, depending on how much the used in the recipe this could be a unique stout.

guess it's settled then, i'm getting some.  ford, have you seen any locally?  imma gonna make a few calls...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 18, 2013, 01:46:08 pm
i also don't quite get the GB hate.  they are boring, but they do make clean, well-brewed lagers.   it's hard to really wow the beer nerds with german lagers - maybe they should try keeping a dopplebock on tap all the time instead of making it a seasonal... or making a properly hoppy pilsner.  on an occasion or two it has been a restaurant where i can take non-beer-drinkers that is better than the other options.  

Quote from: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 01:37:32 pm
$9.99/bottle at Total Wine. $10.99 at Chevy Chase. MD will be getting some, but not available yet.

cool, thanks.  i'm going to hit the FB WF on my way home, need to buy some groceries anyways.  might hit something else along the Red Line if i they don't have any.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 18, 2013, 01:49:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 18, 2013, 01:46:08 pm
maybe they should try keeping a dopplebock on tap all the time instead of making it a seasonal... or making a properly hoppy pilsner. 

Bocks and Pilseners are lagers, so no.  I only ever go there when non-beer drinkers choose the place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 18, 2013, 03:01:11 pm
Quote from: grateful on July 18, 2013, 01:49:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 18, 2013, 01:46:08 pm
maybe they should try keeping a dopplebock on tap all the time instead of making it a seasonal... or making a properly hoppy pilsner. 

Bocks and Pilseners are lagers, so no. 

dude, are you trying to school me in beer styles?!?  this ain't gonna end well for ya... ;D

my point was, if they want to focus on lagers and they want to impress beer nerds, they should up the output of those two offerings (lagers!).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 03:16:47 pm
But weizenbock's are ales, right?

That's my favorite German beer style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 18, 2013, 03:25:28 pm
When people say they don't like Lagers I think they mean they don't like pale lagers.  Marzen's are lagers.  There is no reason you couldn't have a super hoppy lager.  I just had a jug of Blackwing Lager from Union Craft that was pretty tasty. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 18, 2013, 03:32:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 03:16:47 pm
But weizenbock's are ales, right?

That's my favorite German beer style.

The German Beer Institute says yes.
http://www.thebeerspot.com/beer/style/weizenbock
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 18, 2013, 03:45:11 pm
Has anyone made a Saisson?  I have been making beer in my basement and as it isn't air conditioned down there I thought it might be getting too hot.  But it looks like you use this yeast up to 95 degrees:

http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_yeaststrain_detail.cfm?ID=60 (http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_yeaststrain_detail.cfm?ID=60)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: killsaly on July 18, 2013, 03:52:28 pm
http://blogs.citypaper.com/index.php/2013/07/cardin-coming-to-heavy-seas-to-push-bill-for-small-brewers/
Quote
Senator Ben Cardin will visit the Heavy Seas brewery in Halethorpe tomorrow to tour the expanding facilities and answer questions about the Small BREW Act (The Small Brewer Reinvestment and Expanding Workforce Act), a bipartisan bill he and Maine Senator Susan Collins introduced to Congress in May.

Currently, brewers pay an excise tax of $18 per barrel. Small breweries, or those who brew less than 2 million barrels of beer a year, pay $7 a barrel. Under the Small BREW Act, the excise tax rate on each barrel of beer would be reduced from $7 to $3.50 for first 60,000 barrels; after 60,000 barrels and up to 2 million barrels, the excise rate would be $16 per barrel. For breweries making over 6 million barrels of beer, the change in taxation would not apply at all. In 2012, Heavy Seas sold 33,000 barrels of beer (or 10,912,000 12-ounce bottles of beer). By contrast, Sam Adams aka Boston Beer Company?s barrelage per year is 2.1 million.

With Union Craft Brewing celebrating its first anniversary next weekend, the recent addition of Peabody Heights Brewery to the city?s brewing scene, and at least two breweries as close as Columbia with plans to open in 2014, the bill would be an economic boon to these new businesses. According to Cardin?s website, there are 24 Maryland craft breweries in the planning stages.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 18, 2013, 04:54:32 pm
Quote from: killsaly on July 18, 2013, 03:52:28 pm
http://blogs.citypaper.com/index.php/2013/07/cardin-coming-to-heavy-seas-to-push-bill-for-small-brewers/
Quote
Senator Ben Cardin will visit the Heavy Seas brewery in Halethorpe tomorrow to tour the expanding facilities and answer questions about the Small BREW Act (The Small Brewer Reinvestment and Expanding Workforce Act), a bipartisan bill he and Maine Senator Susan Collins introduced to Congress in May.

Currently, brewers pay an excise tax of $18 per barrel. Small breweries, or those who brew less than 2 million barrels of beer a year, pay $7 a barrel. Under the Small BREW Act, the excise tax rate on each barrel of beer would be reduced from $7 to $3.50 for first 60,000 barrels; after 60,000 barrels and up to 2 million barrels, the excise rate would be $16 per barrel. For breweries making over 6 million barrels of beer, the change in taxation would not apply at all. In 2012, Heavy Seas sold 33,000 barrels of beer (or 10,912,000 12-ounce bottles of beer). By contrast, Sam Adams aka Boston Beer Company?s barrelage per year is 2.1 million.

With Union Craft Brewing celebrating its first anniversary next weekend, the recent addition of Peabody Heights Brewery to the city?s brewing scene, and at least two breweries as close as Columbia with plans to open in 2014, the bill would be an economic boon to these new businesses. According to Cardin?s website, there are 24 Maryland craft breweries in the planning stages.

Looks like there will be a ton of local breweries to choose from.  There seems to be Union Craft, Flying Dog, and Heavy Seas at every restaurant in town.  Soon you will have no reason not to buy local.  I guess that was how it was before World War II. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 07:10:54 pm
Local breweries have a long way to go before they can match the quality of offerings from California, Vermont, Michigan, or Oregon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 18, 2013, 07:16:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 07:10:54 pm
Local breweries have a long way to go before they can match the quality of offerings from California, Vermont, Michigan, or Oregon.

Actually I like Union Craft Beer better than the stuff from those states.  Anyway it is about supporting local business.  And getting things fresh.  Cutting down on polution.  Buying stuff from Michigan isn't going to help Baltimore be a better brewing location.  And it isn't going to help the local economy. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on July 18, 2013, 11:00:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 11:22:55 am
Fair enough. Do you think good or bad thoughts when "wheat" and "imperial stout" are used in the same sentence...was what i was getting at.


Quote from: slappy on July 18, 2013, 10:58:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 18, 2013, 10:49:03 am
How do you guys feel about Stone Farkin Wheaton? A 13% imperial wheat stout made in collaboration with actor/homebrewer Wil Wheaton?

I don't feel anything from a beer until I taste it.



I still don't think and wait to taste it.
But it's not that uncommon to have wheat in an imperial stout.
Boulevard has it in their imperial stout as does Fifty Fifty where I'm guessing they found the inspiration.
It's well established in the Nordic region.  I've had DarkForce by Haand Bryggeriet and Raasted Imperial Wheat Stout by Raasted Bryghus here in the States both were good for bottled imports.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 22, 2013, 09:22:18 am
i had a couple decent brews on my travels this weekend.  beers consumed at high dive in brooklyn, armsby abbey in worcester, and the dive bar in worcester. 

treehouse sap (brimfield, CT/MA) - IPA. get this beer if you ever see it.  also, i hear the brewery is an actual treehouse? i'm intrigued.
allagash bat - another excellent offering from allagash. beer is aged in tequila barrels, and the sour/tequila mix that comes out is really incredible. my favorite summer beer this year.
jack's abbey 2nd anniversary lager - a DIPL, it's pretty good.
against the grain RIS - i don't have the right name for this beer, i believe it was To Øl An Ale Pleasure. the tap handle was wrong, but holy shit was this good.
founders double trouble - a classic.
great divide oaked yeti - also a classic.

also had a few cisco offerings, and brought home a few bottles i haven't seen.  and my favorite beer of the weekend may have been my own IPA, which I got to taste Sunday night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 22, 2013, 11:49:37 am
I'm not even sure where to begin in my beer travels of the weekend, but it was the best beer adventure I've ever been on and I'm willing to say that Burlington is the best beer town in the country (probably world). 

Highlights:

Lawson's Fayston Maple Imperial Stout
Lawson's Double Sunshine IPA 
Lawson's Chinooker'd IPA
Hill Farmstead Society & Solitude #5
Hill Farmstead Edward
Heady Topper (by the can and on cask)


It's a shame atomicfront will never get to try any of these great beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 12:23:51 pm
Nice.

By Burlington, do you mean Burlington and Waterbury?

What eateries did you hit?

Maybe you could organize a trade with Atomic. Heady Topper for Andescher.


Quote from: Yada on July 22, 2013, 11:49:37 am
I'm not even sure where to begin in my beer travels of the weekend, but it was the best beer adventure I've ever been on and I'm willing to say that Burlington is the best beer town in the country (probably world). 

Highlights:

Lawson's Fayston Maple Imperial Stout
Lawson's Double Sunshine IPA 
Lawson's Chinooker'd IPA
Hill Farmstead Society & Solitude #5
Hill Farmstead Edward
Heady Topper (by the can and on cask)


It's a shame atomicfront will never get to try any of these great beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 12:31:25 pm
I went to a party Saturday where the beer choices were:

Sam Adams Summer Ale
Yuengling
Corona Light (or regular Corona...is there a difference?)
Leinenkugel Summer Shandy

I had the Sam. Was fine for washing down the spicey food they were serving, but I couldn't finish the second bottle once I was out of food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 22, 2013, 12:52:53 pm
Based on that list im guessing he was at the VT brewers festival

Quote from: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 12:23:51 pm
Nice.

By Burlington, do you mean Burlington and Waterbury?

What eateries did you hit?

Maybe you could organize a trade with Atomic. Heady Topper for Andescher.


Quote from: Yada on July 22, 2013, 11:49:37 am
I'm not even sure where to begin in my beer travels of the weekend, but it was the best beer adventure I've ever been on and I'm willing to say that Burlington is the best beer town in the country (probably world). 

Highlights:

Lawson's Fayston Maple Imperial Stout
Lawson's Double Sunshine IPA 
Lawson's Chinooker'd IPA
Hill Farmstead Society & Solitude #5
Hill Farmstead Edward
Heady Topper (by the can and on cask)


It's a shame atomicfront will never get to try any of these great beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 22, 2013, 01:41:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 12:23:51 pm
Nice.

By Burlington, do you mean Burlington and Waterbury?

What eateries did you hit?

Maybe you could organize a trade with Atomic. Heady Topper for Andescher.



Other than a quick breakfast at Park Row Café and a stop at the Alchemist, I didn't spend any time in Waterbury, so unfortunately I missed out on Prohibition Pig and some of the other offerings of Waterbury.

A few notable dining spots we hit; Farmhouse Tap and Grill (We actually went there twice, once to just drink and once to eat. Probably the best beer list I've seen but god awful service from a bunch of burnt out hippies), American Flat Bread (Zero Gravity beer which was pretty mediocre IMO, but great pie), El Corjito, Trattoria Delia (great Italian and highly recommended for a nicer meal).

Tap list from Farmhouse which basically changes daily.

(http://s8.postimg.org/hugi69b1h/20130720_121751.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 22, 2013, 02:00:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 11, 2013, 08:35:59 am
Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?

had my first one last night.  you know that show called true blood where they drink this stuff called true blood?  that is what it tastes like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 22, 2013, 02:19:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 22, 2013, 01:41:28 pm
Tap list from Farmhouse which basically changes daily.

(http://s8.postimg.org/hugi69b1h/20130720_121751.jpg)


that's an incredible draft list!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 02:27:01 pm
What are you guys talking about? There is nothing from the best beer country in the world on that list. :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 22, 2013, 03:01:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 22, 2013, 01:41:28 pm
Tap list from Farmhouse which basically changes daily.

i had never heard of Le Trou du Diable before this image, but after checking out their website (http://www.troududiable.com/) (french only) and reading a few reviews (THE HORROR), i would be very interested in trying their beers. 

has anyone here tasted any devil's hole? (snicker..)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 03:21:59 pm
My Quebec beer experience has been limited to Dieu du Ciel, but Le Trou du Diable is on my list of things to look for when I'm there in a couple of weeks. Though I'll be saving car space for a drive through Vermont.

Quote from: sweetcell on July 22, 2013, 03:01:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 22, 2013, 01:41:28 pm
Tap list from Farmhouse which basically changes daily.

i had never heard of Le Trou du Diable before this image, but after checking out their website (http://www.troududiable.com/) (french only) and reading a few reviews (THE HORROR), i would be very interested in trying their beers. 

has anyone here tasted any devil's hole? (snicker..)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 22, 2013, 03:42:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 03:21:59 pm
My Quebec beer experience has been limited to Dieu du Ciel

LIAR.

unibroue ;D

when i was last there, over Christmas, i was blown away with how many microbrews were available in depaneurs (convenience stores).  99% were brands i had never heard of.  i would expect many of them to be merely average, like most new craft breweries, but the choice was impressive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 22, 2013, 03:49:38 pm
Sunday, August 18 ? The Bluejacket Sneak Preview BBQ ? To cap off the week, Bluejacket will host its first-ever soiree from 3 PM to 7 PM at the soon-to-open brewery, slated to officially open in early September. The Bluejacket team invites you to join them for a good ol' fashion Sunday backyard BBQ, an intimate gathering, hosted by Beer Director Greg Engert and Brewmaster Megan Parisi, that will feature a number of Bluejacket brews, a selection of backyard BBQ eats by Executive Chef Kyle Bailey, plus a guided tour of the three-vessel brewhouse, barrel-aging platforms and 19 different fermentation vessels, all encompassed within the multi-leveled 11,000 square-foot space. Tickets are priced at $65 per person and include all food and beverage. Tickets go on sale on Monday, July 22 at 12 noon through Eventbrite. - See more at: http://www.dcbeer.com/news/dc-beer-week-announces-slate-flagship-events?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#sthash.lXhzNSGa.dpuf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 04:06:43 pm
I always forget about Unibroue. But they are owned by Sapporo, so they're a special case.

Same experience for me. Tons of Quebec beers, no clues which ones to bring home. This time I think I'll check out Beer Advocate and Ratebeer.  ;D As well as go somewhere else in addition to the Dieu du Ciel brewpub.


Quote from: sweetcell on July 22, 2013, 03:42:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 03:21:59 pm
My Quebec beer experience has been limited to Dieu du Ciel

LIAR.

unibroue ;D

when i was last there, over Christmas, i was blown away with how many microbrews were available in depaneurs (convenience stores).  99% were brands i had never heard of.  i would expect many of them to be merely average, like most new craft breweries, but the choice was impressive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 22, 2013, 05:34:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 22, 2013, 11:49:37 am
I'm not even sure where to begin in my beer travels of the weekend, but it was the best beer adventure I've ever been on and I'm willing to say that Burlington is the best beer town in the country (probably world). 

Highlights:

Lawson's Fayston Maple Imperial Stout
Lawson's Double Sunshine IPA 
Lawson's Chinooker'd IPA
Hill Farmstead Society & Solitude #5
Hill Farmstead Edward
Heady Topper (by the can and on cask)


It's a shame atomicfront will never get to try any of these great beers.

I wonder why someone who has another person on ignore care about what beer that person gets a chance to drink?  Who knows though..maybe one day they will ship the stuff to Maryland or I will have to travel on business to Vermont.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 22, 2013, 05:36:59 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 12:31:25 pm
I went to a party Saturday where the beer choices were:

Sam Adams Summer Ale
Yuengling
Corona Light (or regular Corona...is there a difference?)
Leinenkugel Summer Shandy

I had the Sam. Was fine for washing down the spicey food they were serving, but I couldn't finish the second bottle once I was out of food.

You should have told the host how stupid they were for not buying superior beer and thrown a Yuengling at them and said check Beer Advocate next time. 

I am not a fan Sam Adams Summer Ale.  I would probably have drunk the Corona if they had limes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2013, 07:17:39 pm
https://twitter.com/BATroll
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 23, 2013, 12:21:36 pm
I wonder if people get paid to give good reviews on Beer Advocate like they do on Amazon.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 23, 2013, 12:58:57 pm
It seems like the breweries that get the best reviews are the ones that would have the least amount of money for that sort of thing.

Quote from: atomicfront on July 23, 2013, 12:21:36 pm
I wonder if people get paid to give good reviews on Beer Advocate like they do on Amazon.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 23, 2013, 07:23:03 pm
any1 have a clue what could warrant a beer called "Oliver Draft Punk" to be $16 for a 7oz pour at pizzeria paridisio?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 23, 2013, 07:57:29 pm
sounds like a beermenus misprint, but I'd definitely hit this one at half price:

De Molen Hel & Verdoemenis

(have one sitting in my cellar)


Quote from: stevewizzle on July 23, 2013, 07:23:03 pm
any1 have a clue what could warrant a beer called "Oliver Draft Punk" to be $16 for a 7oz pour at pizzeria paridisio?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 24, 2013, 08:24:21 am
thanks for the heads up, may head that way tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 25, 2013, 12:10:51 pm
http://beerlabelsinmotion.tumblr.com/

SO.  FUCKING.  COOL.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 25, 2013, 12:16:41 pm
if only the little sumpin sumpin girl would drop her top.

Quote from: sweetcell on July 25, 2013, 12:10:51 pm
http://beerlabelsinmotion.tumblr.com/

SO.  FUCKING.  COOL.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 25, 2013, 12:59:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 25, 2013, 12:10:51 pm
http://beerlabelsinmotion.tumblr.com/

SO.  FUCKING.  COOL.

;0)

http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=19630.msg362038#msg362038
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 25, 2013, 01:03:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 25, 2013, 12:10:51 pm
http://beerlabelsinmotion.tumblr.com/

SO.  FUCKING.  COOL.

oh that rocks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 26, 2013, 09:26:33 am
This draft list from the Reservoir in Waterbury, VT is not too shabby either. No Heady, but they have it in cans.


Updated 7/23/2013
38 DRAFT BEERS
Featuring 22 From Vermont

Allagash Confluence - 2012
Allagash Odyssey
Citizen Cider ? Unified Press
Dieu Du Ciel Peche Mortel
Dogfish Festina Peche
Drop-In  Gupta?s Gleeful
Fiddlehead Golden Grillz
Founders KBS
Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout
Grassroots Shadow Pictures of a Journey
Guinness
Harpoon 100 Barrel Series #46
Hill Farmstead Edward
Hill Farmstead Everett
Hill Farmstead Florence
Hill Farmstead Society & Solitude #5
Jack?s Abby Hoponius Union
Lawson?s Finest Chinooker?d
Lawson?s Finest Double Sunshine
Leipziger Gose
Long Trail Batch #3 (Brownbag Series)
Lost Nation Saison Lamoille
Maine Beer Company MO
North Coast Old Rasputin
Otter Creek Vermont Lager
Prairie Artisinal Prarie Ale
Rock Art Simcoe
Rodenbach Grand Cru
Shed Mountain Ale
Stillwater Cellar Door
Switchback
Trapp Family Helles Lager
Trout River Rainbow Red
Weihenstephan
Wolaver?s Organic Wildflower Wheat
Zero Gravity Green State Lager






Quote from: stevewizzle on July 22, 2013, 02:19:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 22, 2013, 01:41:28 pm
Tap list from Farmhouse which basically changes daily.

(http://s8.postimg.org/hugi69b1h/20130720_121751.jpg)


that's an incredible draft list!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 26, 2013, 09:49:11 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 26, 2013, 09:26:33 am
This draft list from the Reservoir in Waterbury, VT is not too shabby either. No Heady, but they have it in cans.


Updated 7/23/2013
38 DRAFT BEERS
Featuring 22 From Vermont

Allagash Confluence - 2012
Allagash Odyssey
Citizen Cider ? Unified Press
Dieu Du Ciel Peche Mortel
Dogfish Festina Peche
Drop-In  Gupta?s Gleeful
Fiddlehead Golden Grillz
Founders KBS
Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout
Grassroots Shadow Pictures of a Journey
Guinness
Harpoon 100 Barrel Series #46
Hill Farmstead Edward
Hill Farmstead Everett
Hill Farmstead Florence
Hill Farmstead Society & Solitude #5
Jack?s Abby Hoponius Union
Lawson?s Finest Chinooker?d
Lawson?s Finest Double Sunshine
Leipziger Gose
Long Trail Batch #3 (Brownbag Series)
Lost Nation Saison Lamoille
Maine Beer Company MO
North Coast Old Rasputin
Otter Creek Vermont Lager
Prairie Artisinal Prarie Ale
Rock Art Simcoe
Rodenbach Grand Cru
Shed Mountain Ale
Stillwater Cellar Door
Switchback
Trapp Family Helles Lager
Trout River Rainbow Red
Weihenstephan
Wolaver?s Organic Wildflower Wheat
Zero Gravity Green State Lager






Quote from: stevewizzle on July 22, 2013, 02:19:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 22, 2013, 01:41:28 pm
Tap list from Farmhouse which basically changes daily.

(http://s8.postimg.org/hugi69b1h/20130720_121751.jpg)


that's an incredible draft list!

My only regret of my trip was not getting to spend a bit more time in Waterbury. Prohibition Pig and that place are about 100 feet from each other.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 26, 2013, 10:12:21 am
Quote
My only regret of my trip was not getting to spend a bit more time in Waterbury. Prohibition Pig and that place are about 100 feet from each other.

And don't forget blackback - exactly half way bewteen pro pig and reservoir on the other side of the street - that street in Waterbury probably has the greatest concentration of great beer on draft anywhere in the US!

http://blackbackpub.com/beers_on_tap

 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 26, 2013, 10:33:35 am
What is the menu like there? Do they have the full Mad River Taco menu, or limited selection?

Think my two day game plan is:

Thurs: Montreal to Hill Farmstead to Rock Art to Von Trapp (lunch at their bakery/deli plus their beer) to Alchemist to Farmhouse T&G.
Friday: Burlington to Winooski Bev Center (Lawson's), maybe Magic Hat, to WAterbury for lunch (Pig or REsevoir) to Warren area (hiking, Warren Store, maybe Mad River Taco) to my mom's in upstate NY.

Quote from: brennser on July 26, 2013, 10:12:21 am
Quote
My only regret of my trip was not getting to spend a bit more time in Waterbury. Prohibition Pig and that place are about 100 feet from each other.

And don't forget blackback - exactly half way bewteen pro pig and reservoir on the other side of the street - that street in Waterbury probably has the greatest concentration of great beer on draft anywhere in the US!

http://blackbackpub.com/beers_on_tap

 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 26, 2013, 10:38:02 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 26, 2013, 10:33:35 am
What is the menu like there? Do they have the full Mad River Taco menu, or limited selection?

Think my two day game plan is:

Thurs: Montreal to Hill Farmstead to Rock Art to Von Trapp (lunch at their bakery/deli plus their beer) to Alchemist to Farmhouse T&G.
Friday: Burlington to Winooski Bev Center (Lawson's), maybe Magic Hat, to WAterbury for lunch (Pig or REsevoir) to Warren area (hiking, Warren Store, maybe Mad River Taco) to my mom's in upstate NY.

Quote from: brennser on July 26, 2013, 10:12:21 am
Quote
My only regret of my trip was not getting to spend a bit more time in Waterbury. Prohibition Pig and that place are about 100 feet from each other.

And don't forget blackback - exactly half way bewteen pro pig and reservoir on the other side of the street - that street in Waterbury probably has the greatest concentration of great beer on draft anywhere in the US!

http://blackbackpub.com/beers_on_tap

 

I'd get to Alchemist first thing Thursday if they lift the two case limit or you'll be coming home with no Topper. Even if they don't lift the two case limit, might be cutting it close.

Also, that's a damn aggressive couple of days!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 26, 2013, 10:44:34 am
the food is way better at the pig than at reservoir

didn't eat at black back so don't know
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 26, 2013, 10:59:49 am
Thanks. They said the case limit was for the forseseable future I think.

I've been watching their FB page, and it's lasted until at least Friday noon each week so far.

Yes, alot on the list, may have to trim as necessary. but after three days of often boring sessions all day at a conference in Montreal, I'll be looking for as much excitement as possible.

Also planning on hitting Dieu du Ciel brewpub in Montreal, and Vices et Versa in Montreal (for other Quebec beers on draft), as well as Schmaltz Brewing in Clifton Park, NY, and Troegs in Hershey.

And then giving my liver a rest.


Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2013, 10:38:02 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 26, 2013, 10:33:35 am
What is the menu like there? Do they have the full Mad River Taco menu, or limited selection?

Think my two day game plan is:

Thurs: Montreal to Hill Farmstead to Rock Art to Von Trapp (lunch at their bakery/deli plus their beer) to Alchemist to Farmhouse T&G.
Friday: Burlington to Winooski Bev Center (Lawson's), maybe Magic Hat, to WAterbury for lunch (Pig or REsevoir) to Warren area (hiking, Warren Store, maybe Mad River Taco) to my mom's in upstate NY.

Quote from: brennser on July 26, 2013, 10:12:21 am
Quote
My only regret of my trip was not getting to spend a bit more time in Waterbury. Prohibition Pig and that place are about 100 feet from each other.

And don't forget blackback - exactly half way bewteen pro pig and reservoir on the other side of the street - that street in Waterbury probably has the greatest concentration of great beer on draft anywhere in the US!

http://blackbackpub.com/beers_on_tap

 

I'd get to Alchemist first thing Thursday if they lift the two case limit or you'll be coming home with no Topper. Even if they don't lift the two case limit, might be cutting it close.

Also, that's a damn aggressive couple of days!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 26, 2013, 11:43:28 am
Oh, and Ben and Jerry's. For my daughter. Have to stop there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 29, 2013, 09:32:08 am
Imma have 14.1 DFH 60 minutes chilled and waiting after Marine Corps!

http://draftmag.com/calories/burned/?weight=158&hours=3&minutes=45&type=running9
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 29, 2013, 10:29:24 am
i had one dogfish head 120 minute yesterday.  god i got giddy good drunky feelings for quite a while.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 29, 2013, 10:34:57 am
That's a big beer to drink on your own!  I usually have to share with 1 or 2 others...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 29, 2013, 10:46:08 am
Dug into a Parabola this weekend, what a delicious beverage.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 29, 2013, 10:48:39 am
Quote from: walkonby on July 29, 2013, 10:29:24 am
i had one dogfish head 120 minute yesterday.  god i got giddy good drunky feelings for quite a while.

i've only had it as part of a flight @ dogfish head in rehoboth -- not sure if I'd want a full glass, too alcohol-y
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 29, 2013, 11:09:49 am
Quote from: HoyaSaxa03 on July 29, 2013, 10:48:39 am
Quote from: walkonby on July 29, 2013, 10:29:24 am
i had one dogfish head 120 minute yesterday.  god i got giddy good drunky feelings for quite a while.

i've only had it as part of a flight @ dogfish head in rehoboth -- not sure if I'd want a full glass, too alcohol-y

I tend to think of it like brandy when I drink it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 11:20:39 am
parabola is indeed the bomb.  i have a few bottle in the cellar.  trying to hold out at least a year, so far so good.

i was given a 120 minute this weekend.  i'm wondering if i should drink it now, or age it?  if so, for how long?  it was bottled in february.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 29, 2013, 12:33:29 pm
Damn, that Rubaeus is good. Only the second specail/seasonal beer that I've bought this year where I had one and knew I had to go back and buy some more. (Sucks was the first).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 03:53:42 pm
for the sour fans:

(http://www.eatyourpizza.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/gueuze-2013-791x1024.jpg)

1. Cantillon Gueuze
2. De Troch LambickX
3. Freigeist Geisterzug Gose
4. Kissmeyer/Magic Rock Salty Kiss Gose
5. Leipziger Gose
6. Private Domaine LambickX
7. Ritterguts Gose
8. Samuel Adams Verloren
9. The Monachry Son of a Batch
10. Tilquin Gueuze

Bonus just added cask!
Union Craft Old Gose
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 03:55:05 pm
another goodun:

(http://www.eatyourpizza.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MIKKELLER-JULY-2013.jpg)

Drafts:
1. Mikkeller 20 IPA
2. Mikkeller Double Eye PA
3. Mikkeller Chili Porter
4. Mikkeller Porter
5. Mikkeller Weizenbock
6. Mikkeller Yeast Series: English Ale
7. Mikkeller Spontancassis
8. Mikkeller Spontangooseberry
9. Mikkeller Spontanpeach
10. Mikkeller Spontanroseship
11. Amager / Mikkeller Hr. Frederiksen Vaesel Brunch COTW
12. To Øl / Mikkeller Walk on Water
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 29, 2013, 04:34:50 pm
mikkeller, good

heavy seas, not good.  after having two of them in my life, one being hopthreeipa and then something else at some concert that was better than what i was drinking, but that wasnt saying much, i can say i dont think it is quality; well atleast not quality enough for my tender tongue of beer tastiness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 04:42:45 pm
heavy seas' loose cannon IPA is quite nice. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 05:14:30 pm
are there any good beer bars in Georgetown other than Pizza P?  their current tap list is uninspiring.  i need a place to meet someone tomorrow night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 29, 2013, 05:25:06 pm
do those crazy zedik farms people still roam around georgetown selling their revolution t shirts and "art" book.  i bought them all, because i find people such as thus, to be interesting.  you should have a beer with them and discuss . . . the universe.

oh wait . . . nevermind

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/21/zendik-farm-for-sale_n_2736216.html

ok, youre on your own.  go to dean and deluca. do they serve beer in their cute little cozy outside sitting places?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 29, 2013, 05:28:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 04:42:45 pm
heavy seas' loose cannon IPA is quite nice. 

wait a minute, the beer isnt called hopthreeipa . . . it is loose cannon.  nice?  nice?  i find it tasting like metal and no sense of the word hop.  maybe i am crazy, or maybe you are.  with beer, who cares.  im still drinking it by the way, because even beer i hate, i continue drinking it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 05:43:50 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 29, 2013, 05:28:58 pm
i find it tasting like metal and no sense of the word hop. 

maybe you got a bad batch, or your bottles were stored in the hot sun before getting into your hands?

i've have loose cannon a few times now and i find it to be a solid IPA.  not world-class, but solid. 

it has a respectable 91 on beeradvocate ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 29, 2013, 06:00:18 pm
you know, i have always thought about how dumb it is of me to think that beer can never been "ruined" before they get to you, that somehow all beers are perfect in their states of brewery to mouth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 29, 2013, 09:56:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 11:20:39 am
i was given a 120 minute this weekend.  i'm wondering if i should drink it now, or age it?  if so, for how long?  it was bottled in february.

age at least a year.  some people say 2 years is the sweet spot.  i cracked mine a year in, and while it was wonderful and better than it was fresh, i feel like i jumped the gun.

i love 120 on draft, but the bottles seem to be a bit harsh fresh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 11:33:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 05:14:30 pm
are there any good beer bars in Georgetown other than Pizza P? 

anyone?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 30, 2013, 05:57:02 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 11:33:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 05:14:30 pm
are there any good beer bars in Georgetown other than Pizza P? 

anyone?

no.

ur next best bet may be thunder bar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 30, 2013, 08:50:53 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 11:33:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 29, 2013, 05:14:30 pm
are there any good beer bars in Georgetown other than Pizza P? 

anyone?

Not that I'm aware of... but I frequent G-town once every three to four years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 30, 2013, 09:55:27 am
Had a Long Trail Blackbeary Wheat.  It was mediocre at best. So much for Vermont Beer all being great.

At Newport Folk Festival all they had for beer was Newport Storm beer.  4 Varieties. IPA, Heifweizen, Amber Ale, Blueberry.  All had one thing in common.  THey were absolutely awful.  I mean worse than Nattie Boh awful. 

Finally I found out they had Woodchuck Cider.  It was quite tasty and is from Vermont.  So Magic Hat and Woodchuck Cider in one state.  Not bad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2013, 10:17:41 am
ok i have to admit the regular genessee did not meet my minimal expectations.


i'm now doing a tasting of the better reputed genessee cream ale (pretty good scores) and will report back soon...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 30, 2013, 10:59:15 am
Ratebeer reviewers agree with you on that Long Trail beer.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/long-trail-blackbeary-wheat/3049/

15th percentile for all beers, 40th percentile for fruit beers.



Quote from: atomicfront on July 30, 2013, 09:55:27 am
Had a Long Trail Blackbeary Wheat.  It was mediocre at best. So much for Vermont Beer all being great.

At Newport Folk Festival all they had for beer was Newport Storm beer.  4 Varieties. IPA, Heifweizen, Amber Ale, Blueberry.  All had one thing in common.  THey were absolutely awful.  I mean worse than Nattie Boh awful. 

Finally I found out they had Woodchuck Cider.  It was quite tasty and is from Vermont.  So Magic Hat and Woodchuck Cider in one state.  Not bad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 30, 2013, 11:07:10 am
Oh I went to the oldest bar in the country last night (White Horse Tavern) and had a Berkshire Brewing Company Steel Rail.  It went down pretty smooth.  I guess people go there just to say they had a beer at the oldest tavern in the country.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2013, 11:34:11 am
here you go..

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/genesee-cream-ale/74/

I think its a little too carbonated for my personal taste but the ratings speak for themselves and of course tell you what you should like
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 30, 2013, 11:57:34 am
i know people that rave by that stuff.  like a person who "prefers" pbr.  i know people from upstate new york that will stink eye you if you dare talk bad about the cream ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 30, 2013, 12:06:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 30, 2013, 10:59:15 am
Ratebeer reviewers agree with you on that Long Trail beer.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/long-trail-blackbeary-wheat/3049/

15th percentile for all beers, 40th percentile for fruit beers.



Quote from: atomicfront on July 30, 2013, 09:55:27 am
Had a Long Trail Blackbeary Wheat.  It was mediocre at best. So much for Vermont Beer all being great.

At Newport Folk Festival all they had for beer was Newport Storm beer.  4 Varieties. IPA, Heifweizen, Amber Ale, Blueberry.  All had one thing in common.  THey were absolutely awful.  I mean worse than Nattie Boh awful. 

Finally I found out they had Woodchuck Cider.  It was quite tasty and is from Vermont.  So Magic Hat and Woodchuck Cider in one state.  Not bad.

long trail is mediocre at best.  i've had a number of their beers, most are boring.  i believe that a few pages back i told yada to avoid LT at the beer fest he went to in burlington.

and thanks to the quote, i see that a'front wrote "So much for Vermont Beer all being great."  no one ever said all VT beers were great.  a lot of them are, a few are simply the best, but no one said all are perfect.  talk about selective reading/hearing.  i don't miss his posts at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 30, 2013, 12:10:33 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 29, 2013, 04:34:50 pm
mikkeller, good

heavy seas, not good.  after having two of them in my life, one being hopthreeipa and then something else at some concert that was better than what i was drinking, but that wasnt saying much, i can say i dont think it is quality; well atleast not quality enough for my tender tongue of beer tastiness.

Agreed.  I do not get the raves about Heavy Seas.  Just takes like pure syrup to me.  ick.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 30, 2013, 12:27:28 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 30, 2013, 12:10:33 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 29, 2013, 04:34:50 pm
mikkeller, good

heavy seas, not good.  after having two of them in my life, one being hopthreeipa and then something else at some concert that was better than what i was drinking, but that wasnt saying much, i can say i dont think it is quality; well atleast not quality enough for my tender tongue of beer tastiness.

Agreed.  I do not get the raves about Heavy Seas.  Just takes like pure syrup to me.  ick.

Go to the Heavy Seas Ale House and have their firkins.  Those are good.  I had the Red Sky at Night out of a Firkin and it was simply amazing.  Got it in the bottle and it wasn't good at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 30, 2013, 04:18:37 pm
really really cool infographic on the growth of craft beer: http://www.newyorker.com/sandbox/business/beer.html.  VT: most breweries per capita!

another interesting newyorker read: A Brief History of Sour Beer, http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/07/sour-beer-cantillon-a-brief-history.html.  nothing particularly new here but a decent quick survey of the current sour beer scene.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 30, 2013, 04:42:32 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 30, 2013, 11:57:34 am
i know people that rave by that stuff.  like a person who "prefers" pbr.  i know people from upstate new york that will stink eye you if you dare talk bad about the cream ale.

I'm from upstate NY, and that beer is trash. It's a step above Mountain Brew Ice (and yes, that's a Stewart's exclusive!)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2013, 04:43:40 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 30, 2013, 04:42:32 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 30, 2013, 11:57:34 am
i know people that rave by that stuff.  like a person who "prefers" pbr.  i know people from upstate new york that will stink eye you if you dare talk bad about the cream ale.

I'm from upstate NY, and that beer is trash. It's a step above Mountain Brew Ice (and yes, that's a Stewart's exclusive!)

what about the ratings then?... 9 out of 10 on beer advocate!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2013, 04:46:25 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 30, 2013, 11:57:34 am
i know people that rave by that stuff.  like a person who "prefers" pbr.  i know people from upstate new york that will stink eye you if you dare talk bad about the cream ale.

I'll have to ask my friends from Rochester.. I bet they can give me the lowdown...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 30, 2013, 04:57:42 pm
Brewers Association Reports Continued Growth for U.S. Craft Brewers

Sales and volume up double-digits in first six months of 2013

Boulder, CO ? July 29, 2013?The steady and sustained growth of American craft brewing continued during the first half of 2013, according to mid-year data released by the Brewers Association (BA). The not-for-profit trade association, which represents the majority of U.S. breweries, announced that during the first six months of 2013, American craft beer dollar sales and volume were up 15 percent and 13 percent, respectively. Over the same period last year, dollar sales jumped 14 percent and volume increased 12 percent.

continued: http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/media/press-releases/show?title=brewers-association-reports-continued-growth-for-u-s-craft-brewers

Quote from: hutch on July 30, 2013, 04:43:40 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 30, 2013, 04:42:32 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 30, 2013, 11:57:34 am
i know people that rave by that stuff.  like a person who "prefers" pbr.  i know people from upstate new york that will stink eye you if you dare talk bad about the cream ale.

I'm from upstate NY, and that beer is trash. It's a step above Mountain Brew Ice (and yes, that's a Stewart's exclusive!)

what about the ratings then?... 9 out of 10 on beer advocate!

uh... that's 9 out of 100.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 30, 2013, 05:10:43 pm
as i said, its like people who live an die by pbr, or mickeys big mouth, or coors light, or miller light.  my parents lived and almost died by means of old milwalkonby in a can, with a pull tab top.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 30, 2013, 05:58:19 pm
more wonderful articles about beer: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/dining/breweries-not-too-big-for-their-barrels.html

if i could re-visit my "introductions thread", i'd maybe add that it's my goal to start something up like this one day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 30, 2013, 06:02:27 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 30, 2013, 05:10:43 pm
as i said, its like people who live an die by pbr, or mickeys big mouth, or coors light, or miller light.  my parents lived and almost died by means of old milwalkonby in a can, with a pull tab top.

After trying to drink Newport Storm beers for three days I am never going to make fun of people who drink shitty beer again.  In comparison Bud or Miller Light is quite drinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 31, 2013, 12:19:01 pm
From the Blackback Pub website in WAterbury, VT. Wonder if it's aimed at their competitors?

See our facebook page for up to the minute postings of new beers. I try to keep as much Hill Farmstead on as possible as well as Lawson's beers.  I also try to always have a quality Belgian Sour on tap as well as something from Mikkeller as well as top quality German beers from Kolsch to Doppelbock to Pils and HefeWeiss.  We run anywhere from 16 to 25 beers on tap depending on what is available.  We don't run 25 beers all the time because there aren't always 25 beers that are good enough.  In short, NO FILLER or GARBAGE CRAFT BEER.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2013, 02:03:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 15, 2013, 06:26:54 pm
be on the lookout for special events at beer bars on Aug 1:

IPA Day Is Back: August 1, 2013
http://www.craftbeer.com/news/ipa-day-is-back-august-1-2013

hoppy IPA day!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 01, 2013, 02:31:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 31, 2013, 12:19:01 pm
From the Blackback Pub website in WAterbury, VT. Wonder if it's aimed at their competitors?

See our facebook page for up to the minute postings of new beers. I try to keep as much Hill Farmstead on as possible as well as Lawson's beers.  I also try to always have a quality Belgian Sour on tap as well as something from Mikkeller as well as top quality German beers from Kolsch to Doppelbock to Pils and HefeWeiss.  We run anywhere from 16 to 25 beers on tap depending on what is available.  We don't run 25 beers all the time because there aren't always 25 beers that are good enough.  In short, NO FILLER or GARBAGE CRAFT BEER.

Sounds like a pompous asshole.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on August 01, 2013, 03:04:39 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on July 30, 2013, 12:27:28 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 30, 2013, 12:10:33 pm
Quote from: walkonby on July 29, 2013, 04:34:50 pm
mikkeller, good

heavy seas, not good.  after having two of them in my life, one being hopthreeipa and then something else at some concert that was better than what i was drinking, but that wasnt saying much, i can say i dont think it is quality; well atleast not quality enough for my tender tongue of beer tastiness.

Agreed.  I do not get the raves about Heavy Seas.  Just takes like pure syrup to me.  ick.

Go to the Heavy Seas Ale House and have their firkins.  Those are good.  I had the Red Sky at Night out of a Firkin and it was simply amazing.  Got it in the bottle and it wasn't good at all.

+1 on their firkins. Paradiso sometimes has them too. Had their stout on cask a month ago and was really impressed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2013, 03:43:52 pm
 
Quote from: Yada on August 01, 2013, 02:10:44 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 01, 2013, 01:48:57 pm
All I'm saying is my wife and I had some of Sweetcell's latest IPA creation on a SAturday, and then both had Bell's Two Hearted on draft on a Sunday, and we both agreed that Sweetcell's was superior. And it wasn't even close, in my book.

I had my first Bell's Two Hearted Ale in over a year over the weekend and it wasn't good at all... Bell's quality has gone way down in the past few years.

Should this be in the beer thread?

probably :)

i bought a 6-pack of two-hearted a few months ago and was underwhelmed.  i believe that i wrote about it here.  i'm not sure if it's because the quality of the beer has gone down, or because of lupuline shift - as my appreciation of hops has increased, what was once hoppy and bitter for me is no longer.  probably a mix of both.

in case anyone cares, my latest IPA was made with galaxy hops & a touch of oatmeal (recipe (http://beersmithrecipes.com/viewrecipe/216930/intergalactic-ipa-actual)).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2013, 06:38:29 pm
First Look: Atlas Brew Works (opening very soon!)

http://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/first-look-atlas-brew-works.htm

(wow, a BYT article that didn't piss me off)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2013, 10:50:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 01, 2013, 02:03:17 pm
hoppy IPA day!

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 02, 2013, 09:45:24 am
I had a dogfish head 60 minute IPA on draft last night and I didn't even like it anymore.  And the bartender told me this other IPA was great and gave me a free sample adn I didn't like it either. I guess I am just done with them.  I guess I got there at the begining of the FAD so I got tired of it before everyone else. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 02, 2013, 10:52:48 am
The good news is that taste is subjective, and you are free to enjoy your drink of choice. 

I kind of understand anchovies on pizza, and will even occasionally eat them if somebody else got them, but would never order them myself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 02, 2013, 02:49:23 pm
Snallygaster is back on this year - Saturday, October 19th

http://www.snallygasterdc.com/

Did anyone go to this last year?  I thought about it but didn't.  Then heard good things mentioned vaguely, but nothing from anyone who went personally.  It'll be walking distance for me this year so seriously considering it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 02, 2013, 02:50:55 pm
Quote from: imbecile on August 02, 2013, 02:49:23 pm
Snallygaster is back on this year - Saturday, October 19th

http://www.snallygasterdc.com/

Did anyone go to this last year?  I thought about it but didn't.  Then heard good things mentioned vaguely, but nothing from anyone who went personally.  It'll be walking distance for me this year so seriously considering it.

I went last year and the first two hours or so were awesome... By mid afternoon every drunk bro in DC was there and the good beers were gone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 02, 2013, 02:55:32 pm
Quote from: grateful on August 02, 2013, 10:52:48 am
The good news is that taste is subjective, and you are free to enjoy your drink of choice. 

I kind of understand anchovies on pizza, and will even occasionally eat them if somebody else got them, but would never order them myself.

Anchoives on Pizza and IPA beers is a good analogy. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 03, 2013, 08:49:51 am
Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2013, 02:50:55 pm
Quote from: imbecile on August 02, 2013, 02:49:23 pm
Snallygaster is back on this year - Saturday, October 19th

http://www.snallygasterdc.com/

Did anyone go to this last year?  I thought about it but didn't.  Then heard good things mentioned vaguely, but nothing from anyone who went personally.  It'll be walking distance for me this year so seriously considering it.

I went last year and the first two hours or so were awesome... By mid afternoon every drunk bro in DC was there and the good beers were gone.

indeed - similar experience here. 

get there right when they open, run to the delicious beer lines, enjoy said delicious beer, and then leave before bros infiltrate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 05, 2013, 12:20:03 pm
new IIPA to be on the lookout for?

(http://flyingdogales.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Truth_WEB.jpg)

Full disclosure: This beer came to fruition because we saw a gap in our portfolio and we wanted to increase our market share.

Sometimes the truth hurts. But most often, it?s damn refreshing.

The Truth Imperial IPA ? the latest addition to our year-round portfolio ? is a hop bomb of some of the most distinct Pacific Northwest varietals available to craft brewers today.

In fact, three years of crafting our Single Hop Imperial IPAs with some of the most rare and flavorful hop varieties enabled us to craft this bold, yet balanced Imperial IPA. Its sharp hop bitterness begins with huge pine notes on the nose, which evolve into bright citrus and subtle stone fruit flavors.

You can find The Truth in Maryland and Washington, DC on shelves and in stores this month. And be sure to check out our release events on Friday, August 16:
    Jojo?s Taphouse in Frederick, MD
    Mahaffey?s Pub in Baltimore, MD
    Smoke and Barrel in Washington, DC

and from http://flyingdogales.com/beers/the-truth/
IBU = 120, hops = warrior, summit, CTZ, citra, amarillo.

could be tasty.  until distribution of this beer is ramped up, i would think that this beer has some trading in the short term.  and i might have mentioned this before, but FD's Double Dog is pretty damn tasty (http://flyingdogales.com/beers/double-dog-double-pale-ale/).
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 05, 2013, 02:44:32 pm
Any one have some suggestions for DC Beer week
Last year I foolishly thought a church key event would be a good one to go to and it was insanely packed and you couldn't even get to the bar

There are tons of great events, but curious if there are any you think might be great but overlooked by the masses
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 05, 2013, 04:32:33 pm
here's one which is very unique, if you're into sours:

New Belgium Sour Blending Workshop at The Black Squirrel-- It?s Sour, It?s Funky, It?s Alive

Pucker up: New Belgium opens its wood cellar of rare wild ales for two exclusive sour beer blending workshops at The Black Squirrel?s Tap Room on Thursday, August 15th, starting at 6:00 p.m. New Belgium?s sensory specialist Lauren Salazar, regarded by many as a leading expert on wild ales, will show guests how to embrace the funk and blend a perfectly balanced sour beer.  Tickets are $55.00 per person.

The price of admission includes: 

·      Samples of five rare wild ales from New Belgium?s wood cellar and a stainless-steel tasting container;
·      New Belgium?s 2013 La Folie and a food pairing;
·      A presentation in which Salazar explains the history of New Belgium?s sour beer program;
·      A chance to make your own blended sour beer from four of New Belgium?s single-barrel bases.

Tickets for Session One (6:00 to 8:00 p.m.) http://newbelgiumsession1.eventbrite.com
Tickets for Session Two: (9:00 to 11:00 p.m.) http://newbelgiumsession2.eventbrite.com

A warning is necessary. These tickets are precious. Salazar is orchestrating only five of these events this year: in Portland, Ore., San Diego, Chicago, Asheville, N.C., and Washington, D.C. Because of the limited number of available seats, tickets are non-refundable.

The evening starts with a glass of New Belgium?s recent sour release, La Folie 2013, and a food pairing as Salazar explores New Belgium?s history of producing Belgian-style sour beers, the genesis of wild ales, and the blender?s art.  Beer blending has been practiced for centuries to ensure palatable beverages.  Many of today?s specialty beers originated as blends of several different beers.

At the end of Salazar?s presentation, it?s the guests? turn to blend their own mixture and create a personalized sour beer using samples of single-barrel unblended base beer straight from New Belgium?s oak cellar.  Find out what it takes to be the next Master Blender at New Belgium Brewing.

Date:                                     
Thursday, August 15th

Tickets:
Session One (6:00 to 8:00 p.m.) http://newbelgiumsession1.eventbrite.com
Session Two: (9:00 to 11:00 p.m.) http://newbelgiumsession2.eventbrite.com

Location:                             
The Black Squirrel
2427 18th St NW
Washington, DC 20009
202-232-1011
www.BlackSquirrelDC.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 05, 2013, 06:14:29 pm
I am not going to drink beer for a while.  I am afraid I have undiagnosed liver damage.  I don't have any of the symptoms but they say sometimes people don't have symptoms and I wonder if I am one of those people.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 05, 2013, 06:17:22 pm
the power of everybody smiling at once . . . i can feel that power here right now, you know?  that is of course if they can even read what you posted. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 05, 2013, 06:22:59 pm
I haven't had a beer since Thursday when I had 4.  Funny thing is that this guy on my team never had a beer (or any alcohol for that matter) before and he had two beers that night.  He is 25 and never drank before.  Which is weird.  Anyway I thought it would be cool if my last beers were the same night as his first two beers. Anyway he drank Miller Light as I thought that would be a good first beer.   He didn't like them but someone let him taste a Guiness and he liked that less.  And the batender woman gave me a free sample of some IPA of some sort and I let him taste that he definitely didn't like that. 

I feel like my plan would be great if I weren't going to Germany/Austria in less than a month.  I feel my liver is in bad shape and more beer might kill me but then I will be in Germany and there will be beer all around.  Plus in Austria I hear they have great Schnapps.  Which is probably worse for my liver. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 05, 2013, 06:37:53 pm
heres an idea.  quit it all.  eat healthy.  work out.  be totally free of outside products except food and water.  and meditate.  you will exceed all levels of human perception you have ever had before.  plus, you can use all that beer money for things in life that make other people jealous of you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 06, 2013, 02:42:55 pm
here's a nice lil' beer-fun-in-the-sun event for ya.  not a huge craft beer selection but the price is cheap and it's kid-friendly.  as of right now, no homebrew will be served - DCHB is dealing with licensing issues and it's not looking good. 


DC Homebrewers and Sam Adams BBQ
Saturday, August 24, 2013 from 2:00 PM to 6:00 PM
Kastles Stadium, Washington, DC

Greetings homebrewing enthusiasts!

The DCHB BBQ was so popular last year that we're proud to announce a bigger and better event this year! We will host the 2nd Annual DCHB BBQ on August 24th, in partnership with Sam Adams and this year's charity, Common Good City Farm! We are moving outdoors and tripling our space to allow more homebrewers, family and friends to participate (this is a kid-friendly event).  Be ready. If last year is any indication, this event will sell out quickly.

DCHB BBQ Summary
Price: $15
August 24th, 2013 from 2-6 pm

Kastles Stadium, 800 Water St. SW DC
Near L'Enfant and Waterfront Metro stations. Bike and car parking will also be available.
Kids 10 and under are free

Ticket price includes admission, a heaping plate of BBQ (vegetarian option will be available), 2 sides, hand-crafted soda, Sam Adams beer and an additional beer ticket for one of several craft beers we will have on tap. Additional beer tickets will be available for $5. All proceeds will benefit Common Good City Farm.
 
Beers:
Sam Adams
Sierra Nevada
Boulevard
3 Stars
Flying Dog
Duvel
DC Brau
and more!
 
During the event we will have educational seminars presented by DCHB Club Members, Washington Nationals Natmobile for the kids, various vendors, games, and a raffle to help raise funds for the CGCF.
 
Raffle item highlights:
 
Hat signed by Danny Espinosa
Ball signed by Wilson Ramos
Certificate good for 4 infield box Nationals tickets
Adam LaRoache personally donated signed and bat and ball
Gift certificates to bars, stores, and restaurants all over the DC metro area.

Tickets on sale on Friday August 9th: http://dchbbbq2013.eventbrite.com/

Cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 06, 2013, 02:59:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 05, 2013, 04:32:33 pm
here's one which is very unique, if you're into sours:

New Belgium Sour Blending Workshop at The Black Squirrel-- It?s Sour, It?s Funky, It?s Alive

this sounds awesome and I didn't see this so I'm glad you posted
Love me some sour beers!

It is nice that it is a ticketed event as all these beer week events tend to be butts to nuts packed and makes it hard to enjoy some beer when it takes 30 mins to put in an order
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 07, 2013, 05:10:43 pm
Workers at Milton's Dogfish Head brewery discovered a 300-gallon tank was leaking nitric acid about 2:20 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 7. The spill was under control about 4:02 p.m. Six workers in the area were exposed to the chemical but were not injured; everyone within a 500-foot radius of the spill has been evacuated. An extensive cleanup effort is continuing at the site.

http://capegazette.villagesoup.com/p/chemical-leaks-at-dogfish-head-in-milton/1041103
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 07, 2013, 05:36:21 pm
what the hell is going on with october fest and pumpkin beers already out.  huh.  what up with that.  and why arent i using question marks.  i see them in the stores and laugh.  are you kidding me.  really.  fall already.  really.  is this the, "christmas everywhere by halloween" for the beer community.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 07, 2013, 05:59:38 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 07, 2013, 05:36:21 pm
what the hell is going on with october fest and pumpkin beers already out.  huh.  what up with that.  and why arent i using question marks.  i see them in the stores and laugh.  are you kidding me.  really.  fall already.  really.  is this the, "christmas everywhere by halloween" for the beer community.

I love Marzen's and the Pumpkin beers.  But they must be using canned pumpkin as I doubt they can find ripe pumpkins when they brewed the beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: renton007 on August 08, 2013, 09:50:10 am
I need to jump out of lurker mode and crowd source for a moment.

I'll be in San Diego for 6 days next week. Are there any recommendations beyond what turns up in the normal google search? I have a vist to stone and green flash planned. Is there a Senor Spielbergo non-union Mexican equivalent of 930 or Velvet Lounge?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 08, 2013, 10:01:54 am
http://www.pollstar.com/resultsCity.aspx?ID=49942&SearchBy=san%20diego
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 08, 2013, 12:46:51 pm
mo' beer week events - at the Big Hunt

DCBW- Flying Dog Celebrates The Big Hunt-er S. Thompson!
August 12 @ 4:00 pm - August 13 @ 1:00 am   
We?re pouring Backyard Rarities such as Belgian Devil and Pineapple Saison, as well as favorites Snake Dog and Gonzo! Come out early for this one, we?re also doing a Hunter Thompson look alike contest, along with other wacky surprises!

DCBW- Allagash Spotlight!
August 13 @ 4:00 pm - August 14 @ 1:00 am   
Awesome rarities from Maine! We?re pouring Midnight Brett (midnight wheat, raw wheat, and rye malt, plus brett of course), James Bean (Curieux with wood roasted cold press coffee), Fluxus (saison wit hybrid with green and pink peppercorns), Confluence (ale with brett and dry hopped), and of course delicious White!

DCBW- 3 Stars Brewing Pairing with Jerkface Artisanal Jerky!
August 14 @ 4:00 pm - August 15 @ 1:00 am   
3 Stars is doing a couple special brews for DCBW, one of them being Harvester of Sorrow (Peppercorn Saison aged in Cabernet barrels) and local DC Jerkface is pairing ?Cabanero? (spicy wine jerky) with it! We?re also pouring Born Sinner (Southern Belle aged in Makers Mark barrels, blended with Pandemic Porter) and Zombie Date Night (Pandemic with vanilla bean and cocoa nibs). NOT TO BE MISSED!

DCBW- Blue Mountain Barrel House Spotlight!
August 15 @ 4:00 pm - August 16 @ 1:00 am   
We?re gonna have a bunch of these fine beers from Afton, Virginia: Full Nelson Pale, Summer Haze, The DIPA, Dark Hollow with Chocolate and Coffee, and Local Species. Good times, even better beers.

mo' info: http://thebighunt.net/events/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 11, 2013, 07:48:09 pm
Mmm....Having Hill Farmstead Susan with my dinner tonight. Will post more of my NY/QC/VT/PA beer trip later...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 12, 2013, 10:11:08 am
Oh hey if anybody lives out my way....Quench (in Colesville) is opening a craft beer bar with growler fills....

From their FB page:

As some of you know, we are getting ready to open a taproom at Quench! very soon. The taproom features a 25ft bar with a 20 tap draft system that will be dedicated to craft beer. The bar will also feature great wines from our extensive collection.

The icing on the cake however is our brand new, state of the art, counter pressure growler filling system. We are proud to announce that we are the first and only business in Montgomery County, and the 5th in all of Maryland, DC, and Virginia to have this system.

We will share the opening date with you just as soon as we are done polishing up! This should be around the 3rd week of August.

Our team is uber excited to host you :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 12, 2013, 10:42:22 am
In my continuing quest to find the perfect IPA, I was turned on to Maine Beer's Lunch at the Georgetown Pizza Paradiso over the weekend.   Exquisite!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 12, 2013, 11:19:22 am
Quote from: grateful on August 12, 2013, 10:11:08 am
Oh hey if anybody lives out my way....Quench (in Colesville) is opening a craft beer bar with growler fills....

From their FB page:

As some of you know, we are getting ready to open a taproom at Quench! very soon. The taproom features a 25ft bar with a 20 tap draft system that will be dedicated to craft beer. The bar will also feature great wines from our extensive collection.

The icing on the cake however is our brand new, state of the art, counter pressure growler filling system. We are proud to announce that we are the first and only business in Montgomery County, and the 5th in all of Maryland, DC, and Virginia to have this system.

We will share the opening date with you just as soon as we are done polishing up! This should be around the 3rd week of August.

Our team is uber excited to host you :)

Nice... thanks for the info, will have to check that place out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 12, 2013, 01:05:24 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2013/08/10/top-15-craft-beer-breweries-in-usa/2637493/?csp=travel
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 12, 2013, 01:29:58 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 12, 2013, 01:05:24 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2013/08/10/top-15-craft-beer-breweries-in-usa/2637493/?csp=travel

can't argue too much with that list.  i might not 100% agree but it's a solid list.  they did a nice job of choosing breweries that people can buy the products of, as opposed to a long list of small breweries that don't distribute beyond a very limited range. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 12, 2013, 01:36:38 pm
I drank plenty of Pliny the Elder over the past week and I have to say it's nippin' at the heels of Heady Topper...but Heady is still better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 12, 2013, 01:47:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2013, 01:36:38 pm
I drank plenty of Pliny the Elder over the past week and I have to say it's nippin' at the heels of Heady Topper...but Heady is still better.

yeah, i still prefer HT but really at that point you're arguing about who is more perfect.  it's not a debate i'm willing to spend a lot of time on... they're both stellar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 12, 2013, 01:50:43 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 05, 2013, 02:44:32 pm
Any one have some suggestions for DC Beer week

DC Beer Week: The best events, dinners and tap takeovers: http://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/dc-beer-week-the-best-events-dinners-and-tap-takeovers/2013/08/08/65941780-fe18-11e2-bd97-676ec24f1f3f_story.html

DC Beer Week calendar http://www.washingtonpost.com/gog/search/DC%20Beer%20Week/sortSpecifier_Date.html (complete listing of all events)

DC Beer Week: Where to drink on Monday http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2013/08/12/dc-beer-week-where-to-drink-on-monday/ (daily updates, obvs)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 12, 2013, 01:58:39 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 12, 2013, 01:05:24 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2013/08/10/top-15-craft-beer-breweries-in-usa/2637493/?csp=travel
solid list - they did misspelll Tom Bobaks name though
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2013, 09:43:51 am
The  "A Rabbi, a Priest and a Minister Walk into a Bar..." at Granville Moore's was a great event last night was great (never been upstairs there, what a great space)
All the Omengang you could drink!

The Witt, Rare Vos, and Abbey Ale were very good
only got a small taste of Ommegang XV and that was really good.
Adoration was good, but nothing to write home about

I didn't really like the 3 Philosophers and Hennpin

But really the talk and the conversations that commenced after were really great.
I was pleasantly surprised a few Atheists showed up too, so I was not alone in my lack of god love
But I love some good tales about beer, so you can't go too far back and it's dominated by the church.
There was lots of great quotes from the Talmud and beer (wine seems to dominate most quotes, but surprisingly there were lots of talk of beer too)

Of course the Rabbi had the best jokes...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 13, 2013, 11:24:43 am

The Holy Grail --- LUNCH ON TAP!


6:00 PM - The Maine Beer Company Draft Showcase - ChurchKey - 1337 14th Street NW
9 Maine Brews on Tap: Lunch, Nøgne Ø & Bluejacket Collabs + Much More
?Maine Beer & Bluejacket Collaboration Time II
?Maine Beer & Nøgne Ø Collaboration Time III
?Maine Beer Lunch
?Maine Beer Zoe
?Maine Beer King Titus
?Maine Beer MO
?Maine Beer Peeper
?Maine Beer Mean Old Tom
?Maine Beer Mean Old Tom (Nitro
- See more at: http://www.dcbeer.com/event/dc-beer-week-2013-tuesday-august-13-events#sthash.Xy1ryovg.dpuf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2013, 01:22:47 pm
Quote from: Bagley on August 13, 2013, 11:24:43 am
6:00 PM - The Maine Beer Company Draft Showcase - ChurchKey - 1337 14th Street NW


I've been hearing great things about the Maine beer Co
but last time I tried to attend Church Key during a BeerWeek event...it was crazy packed and you couldn't even get a beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 13, 2013, 02:33:20 pm
i like me some ipas, and maine beer is definitely fantastic, but lunch... just does not do it for me. i'll be attending CK on thursday for bell's beer night, though.

may attend meridian pint's sour night tonight, but not feeling so hot. we'll see.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 13, 2013, 02:43:00 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 13, 2013, 02:33:20 pm
i like me some ipas, and maine beer is definitely fantastic, but lunch... just does not do it for me. i'll be attending CK on thursday for bell's beer night, though.

may attend meridian pint's sour night tonight, but not feeling so hot. we'll see.



I agree... pretty average IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 13, 2013, 02:53:29 pm
I quite liked Lunch and Zoe, but found Mo to be pretty meh.

Though all of them are overpriced and not worth the price, imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 13, 2013, 03:03:02 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 13, 2013, 02:53:29 pm
I quite liked Lunch and Zoe, but found Mo to be pretty meh.

Though all of them are overpriced and not worth the price, imo.

Is there a difference between overpriced and not worth the price?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 13, 2013, 03:07:54 pm
If something is overpriced but there is nothing comparable available at a lower price, I might buy it, if it's good.

If something is overpriced and there's a comparable item at a more reasonable price, then it's not worth the price.

To me Lunch is overpriced and not woth the price because there are so many better priced IPA's.

To me KBS is overpriced, but I'll but it anyway because there's nothing else comparable that's cheaper.


Quote from: atomicfront on August 13, 2013, 03:03:02 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 13, 2013, 02:53:29 pm
I quite liked Lunch and Zoe, but found Mo to be pretty meh.

Though all of them are overpriced and not worth the price, imo.

Is there a difference between overpriced and not worth the price?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 13, 2013, 03:11:24 pm
BTW MPP has all the Goose Island beers including my new favorite 312.  However, there booth was cash only and there was a line for the ATM so I just paid 12 bucks for Corona.  24 oz of Corona but still that is overpiced but worth the price as I didn't have to wait in any lines.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2013, 03:16:36 pm
this sounds interesting...although quite a stretch on linking NY to it

Only Beer Can Break Your Heart with Allagash and Boulevard - A Tribute to Neil Young and Poutine - Smoke and Barrel
Thursday, August 15 at 5:00 PM - Only Beer Can Break Your Heart with Allagash and Boulevard - A Tribute to Neil Young and Poutine - Smoke and Barrel - 2471 18th Street NW
24 Boulevard/Allagash drafts including the release of Boulevard Reverb Imperial Pilsner plus Saison-Brett, Rye-on-Rye, Coffee Ale, and out-of-market drafts Zon Witbier, Pale Ale, and Single-Wide IPA. Allagash drafts will include Bourbon Black, Confluence, Victor, Victoria, Grand Cru, Odyssey, Fluxus 2013, Yakuza, and the brewery-only Golden Brett. Smoke & Barrel's Chef Logan McGear will also be showcasing several poutine recipes including beer pairings, to celebrate Neil Young's Canadian birthplace, and the best food product to ever come out of that country. This event was the brainchild of Allagash's Suzy Woods and Boulevard's "Heff" Matthew Heffernan who share a love of the music of Neil Young and french fries topped with gravy and other assorted toppings
.Full Draft List:
Boulevard Reverb
Boulevard Rye-on-Rye
Boulevard Saison Brett
Boulevard Coffee Ale
Boulevard Zon
Boulevard Pale Ale
Boulevard Single-Wide IPA
Boulevard Double Wide IPA
Boulevard 80 Acre
Boulevard Tank 7
Allagash White
Allagash Black
Allagash Curieux
Allagash Tripel
Allagash Blonde
Allagash Fluxus 2013
Allagash Confluence
Allagash Victor
Allagash Victoria
Allagash Yakuza
Allagash Golden Brett
Allagash Odyssey
Allagash Grand Cru
Allagash Bourbon Black





When
Thu Aug 15, 2013 5pm ? 10pm Eastern Time

Where
2471 18th Street NW (map)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 13, 2013, 03:28:10 pm
Maine BeerCo was the subject of some unfounded hype, IMO.  they got some buzz and for a while Lunch was *the* beer to track down.  when i finally got an opportunity to try it, it didn't live up to the hype.  it was a very nice IPA, but more bitter than hoppy.  i'll give it another change, when i next get the chance, but i'm no longer hunting it down.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 13, 2013, 03:31:57 pm
How much is a pint of Borubon County Stout going for? How about Sofie, Matilda, Pepe Nero, or King Henry?

Quote from: atomicfront on August 13, 2013, 03:11:24 pm
BTW MPP has all the Goose Island beers including my new favorite 312.  However, there booth was cash only and there was a line for the ATM so I just paid 12 bucks for Corona.  24 oz of Corona but still that is overpiced but worth the price as I didn't have to wait in any lines.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 13, 2013, 03:34:38 pm
Lunch was crazy hyped-up, but I agree, it was just good. Nothing amazing.

I'm going to try to hit up the Mad Fox event at Smoke & Barrel tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 13, 2013, 03:41:35 pm
a poutine and beer event... i'm shedding a tear over here.  and those are some fine allagash offerings - the bourbon barrel black and yakuza are quite rare.  going to try to make this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 13, 2013, 04:12:50 pm
i'll be at smoke and barrel thursday after CK :D  allagash bourbon black is killer, and rye-on-rye is a favorite of mine.

friday is a work-from-home, kind of day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 14, 2013, 08:36:25 am
Quote from: atomicfront on August 07, 2013, 04:39:28 pm
Is James Ford on vacation or something?


So I had a week last week that was split between business and pleasure. We tried to hit a number of beer related places. In the order visited:

Shmaltz Brewing, Clifton Park, NY www.shmaltzbrewing.com
Beer: Five 6 oz pours for $10, you keep the glass. Some nice high abv options, both draft and bottle.
Food: none
Music: classic rock and my wife claims there was a Common song
Other:
Grade: B+

Vices et Versa (bar/restuarant) Montreal, QC www.vicesetversa.com
Beer:30 or so Quebec microbrews on draft, including DDC beers.
Food: decent pub food
Music: Very cool obscure retro rockabilly and bluegrass
Other: Nice outdoor beer garden and they let the kids sit anywhere inside as well (see DDC below)
Grade:A


Dieu du Ciel (brewpub), Montreal, QC www.dieuduciel.com
Beer: 15 or so DDC beers on draft, all that we tried were awesome
Food: Didn't order any
Music: None
Other: No longer allow kids in the "bar area" which consists of the entire inside ("because the cops cracked down"...which sounds like total BS). Fortunately, kids are allowed outdoors
Grade:A-

Hill Farmstead Brewery, Greensboro, VT www.hillfarmstead.com
Beer: Four small tastings for $5. Each delicious, each better than the last. Shaun Hill's mother was pouring the samples.
Food: None
Music: Like they had MY ipod hooked up. Wilco, Neil Young, Uncle Tupelo, Sharon Jones, My Morning Jacket, Band of Horses, early Radiohead, Spoon, etc.
Other: We arrived 25 mins before opening, Shaun Hill was in the driveway chatting with someone. We were second in line. Our tragic mistake was getting out of the growler fill line when they opened and opting for the sampling line first. I ended up in the growler line for 90 minutes because of that.
Grade: A

Lost Nation Brewery, Morrisville, VT www.lostnation.com
Beer: A gose, a black ale, a "rustic" ale, a saison, and some kind of other low abv Belgian. No IPA's or even pale ales in sight. Only five really, really tasty low abv beers done very well.
Food: Outsourced to the Mad Taco (see below). Non-taco menu that changes weekly. Creative and very tasty, small menu but always with a veggie option (we had a smoked eggplant sandwich and watermelon salad). And at a fraction of the cost of the Farmhouse and the Pig (see below)
Music: Pixies, Shins, and other pleasant but fogettable indie rock
Other: Just opened in June. My biggest find and most pleasant surprise.
Grade: A

Rock Art Brewery, Morrisville, VT www.rockartbrewery.com
Beer: Decent but nothing to write home about. $4 for a flight of four. Not terribly unique, typical American brewery beer styles. Like a smaller, lower quality version of a visit to Heavy Seas tasting room, without the take home glass.
Food: None
Music: None
Other:
Grade: C+

The Alchemist (Brewery), Waterbury, VT www.alchemist.com
Beer: Four servings of Heady Topper (STILL the best beer in the world!), first sample free, next three $1 each. Need I say more?
Food: None
Music: The Zappa-esque white funk music playing was obviously for the workers, not the customers.
Other: One case per person limit by the time we arrived. Planted ourselves in front of the sit down PACMAN game, kept our daughter occupied while we enjoyed our Headys.
Grade: A

The Prohibition Pig (Restaurant), Waterbury, VT www.prohibitionpig.com
Beer: Thurs night, not a single IPA or pale ale on draft from the VT big three.
Food: BBQ tempeh was dry but tasty. Definitely overpriced at $17.
Music: None
Other:
Grade:B-

The Farmhouse Tap and Grill, Burlington, VT www.farmhousetg.com
Beer: Website and even beer list on chakboard at bar said they had Lawson's Double Sunshine on draft, however when we sat down, we were informed that "the Lawson's truck hasn't arrived yet. But the Hill Farmstead Edward is very similiar." Yes, a 5% pale ale is very simliar to an 8% DIPA. Not!
Food: Tasty but pricey. $14 for a black bean burger at lunch.
Music: None
Other: Wife noted there were lots of old people here. Probably they are the most likely to afford $14 black bean burgers.
Grade:B

Beverage Warehouse (bottle shop), Winooski, VT www.beveragewarehouse.com
Beer: Probably the best bottle selection in VT. Called them multiple times and managed to score a bottle each of Double Sunshine (one bttle per peson limit), which probably sold out in an hour or two.
Food: nope
Music: nope
Other: I asked to use the bathroom. They said "we lost the key. We had regulars coming in to use the bathroom so we had a key made then we lost it." I peed in the parking lot.
Grade:A-

The Warren Store (general store with small beer selection), Warren, VT www.warrenstore.com
Beer: They were doing a free tasting of Green Flash beers. Can't complain about that. Found a slew of 2011 Pannepot for $6 for a 11.2 oz bottle. Is that a rare find? Should I have bought more than one?
Food: Daughter enjoyed the homemade ice cream sandwich, I though it was pretty average.
Music:Nope
Other: The pushy middle age saleslady and 50 year old white guy with dreads (or was it a ponytail? I think that described half the men in Vermont) writing a personal check (and slowwwwwly filling out the ledger during the transaction) caused me to remark, "Vermont people are sort of annoying, but that's probably just because we're assholes."
Grade: B-

The Mad Taco, Waitsfield, VT www.themadtaco.com
Beer: Side by side of Lawson's Double Sunshine and a can of Heady ($5, cheapest price at any dining establishment). Ahhh. Vermont beer nirvana.
Food:Good lord, their tacos are tasty
Music: Ramones, Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, Specials. Excellent vintage tunes.
Other: Interior of place very bare bones and smelled a bit funky. Ate in the beer garden which gave a nice view of the rest of the strip mall. Didn't matter, the beer and food combo was the highlight of the trip.
Grade: A+

The Old Saratoga Brewery, Saratoga, NY www.oldesaratogabrew.com
Beer: Decent. As many free samples as you want
Food: None
Music: None
Other:
Grade: B+; As much free beer as you want. What other brewery tasting room in the world offers that?

Troegs Brewery, Hershey, PA www.troegs.com
Beer: Troegs isn't in the same league as the Vermont big three or DDC, but they are still quite tasty.
Food: Solid but unspectacular
Music: None
Other: Something about the German beer hall style of the place just hits the right spot
Grade: B+

Didn't get to Magic Hat, Fiddleheads, or Von Trapp in Vermont. Ommegang in Coooperstown, which we've hit in the past, was closed due to their Belgian Beer Fest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 14, 2013, 09:27:55 am
I like how James Ford considers a place to have music if they are playing a tape of well known artists.  Music means live music James Ford otherwise who gives a poop.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 14, 2013, 09:32:37 am
I too, like it when a dining establishment, a bar, or even someone's house party has music playing. It says something about the establishment or person that they actually care enough about music to make a point of playing it. Even better if it's music that i actually like!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 14, 2013, 09:41:23 am
So they've reduced the limit to a case, eh??

Interesting...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 14, 2013, 09:41:44 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 14, 2013, 09:32:37 am
I too, like it when a dining establishment, a bar, or even someone's house party has music playing. It says something about the establishment or person that they actually care enough about music to make a point of playing it. Even better if it's music that i actually like!

If they cared about music they would have live music.  Or have music from local artists.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 14, 2013, 09:46:16 am
Great write up JF - quite jealous!

Quote
Our tragic mistake was getting out of the growler fill line when they opened and opting for the sampling line first. I ended up in the growler line for 90 minutes because of that.

Mindblowing isn't it how long they take to fill growlers? Even at 90 minutes I'd be there were only about 10 people in front of you right?

Quote
Thurs night, not a single IPA or pale ale on draft from the VT big three.

 :o :o :o :o :o WOW
 - did you try Blackback across the street?

Quote
I asked to use the bathroom. They said "we lost the key. We had regulars coming in to use the bathroom so we had a key made then we lost it." I peed in the parking lot.

Having peed in that bathroom I can categorically state that the parking lot was a significantly more pleasant and hygienic place to pee
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 14, 2013, 09:55:48 am
Totally forgot to try Blackback.
 :(
And the Mad Taco does the food at the Blackback, so totally bummed we didn't go there. Our first experience at the Pig a year ago was so positive, we were just dead set on going again. And my wife accessed an outdated PP draft list on her iphone that incorrectly listed them having Heady and Edward on draft...which we learned was  untrue only after we had been seated (guess should have asked of they had Heady in a can). We did have Lawson's Maple Wheat and Jack's Abbey Hoponius Union, both of which were unfortunately underwhelming.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 14, 2013, 10:03:17 am
awesome write-up, JF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 14, 2013, 10:05:24 am
hit up meridian pint last night.

notables include allagash avance, midnight brett, and golden brett.  midnight brett... i could drink a whole six pack of that in a sitting, it was that delightful.  also had sour in the rye, because why not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 14, 2013, 12:15:45 pm
thanks for the reviews, ford.  will be handy next time i'm visiting the in-laws in VT.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 14, 2013, 02:27:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 13, 2013, 03:28:10 pm
Maine BeerCo was the subject of some unfounded hype, IMO.  they got some buzz and for a while Lunch was *the* beer to track down.  when i finally got an opportunity to try it, it didn't live up to the hype.  it was a very nice IPA, but more bitter than hoppy.  i'll give it another change, when i next get the chance, but i'm no longer hunting it down.


Different strokes....,  I prefer the bitter over the floral with my IPAs- ie  Torpedo, Enjoy By....though I agree the Maine Beer Lunch is pricey at  $15/pint bottle at Pizza Paradiso, $8.99 at total wine (when in stock) .  Hopefully my friend can pick some up for me in Maine $5.99 (I know-still pricey)- store said they're allotted six cases a week and they're gone immediately 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 14, 2013, 03:11:08 pm
bagley - different strokes indeed!  i consider torpedo to be on the flavorful/aromatic side (citra!), and Enjoy By is a hop-bomb to to bottom - both bitter and flavorful/aromatic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 14, 2013, 05:53:17 pm
maine equals weak . . . unlike like the state.  bunch of crazy drunks, and seafood.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 14, 2013, 05:58:16 pm
I made a really cheese intensive, caloric intestine clogging spinach lasagna tonight, and paired it will an American style barleywine.

What beer would YOU have paired it with?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 14, 2013, 06:36:28 pm
an english barleywine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 14, 2013, 10:32:10 pm
They just put a three growler limit per person for each trip through the line limit this week. It was five when i was there.


Quote from: brennser on August 14, 2013, 09:46:16 am

Mindblowing isn't it how long they take to fill growlers? Even at 90 minutes I'd be there were only about 10 people in front of you right?


 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 15, 2013, 09:09:37 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 14, 2013, 10:32:10 pm
They just put a three growler limit per person for each trip through the line limit this week. It was five when i was there.


Quote from: brennser on August 14, 2013, 09:46:16 am

Mindblowing isn't it how long they take to fill growlers? Even at 90 minutes I'd be there were only about 10 people in front of you right?


 

James, what's the deal with the one case limit now at The Alchemist?

I have some friends going up there in a few weeks and I'd like to fill them in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 10:17:27 am
alright... trip to worcester, MA this weekend for a bachelor party on friday night.  and my new favorite brewery, tree house, has their stellar IPA on draft for growler hours. who's excited? this guy.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/28743/86237/?ba=bpk59
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 15, 2013, 10:37:28 am
Sooo.. I'm going to Columbus tomorrow morning for the weekend?  Anything I should be on the lookout for?

From what I can tell, it's not a beer town at all, so I'll try and make the best of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 15, 2013, 10:44:02 am
which columbus . . . i think every state has a columbus, like every state has a woodstock.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 10:54:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 10:17:27 am
alright... trip to worcester, MA this weekend for a bachelor party on friday night.  and my new favorite brewery, tree house, has their stellar IPA on draft for growler hours. who's excited? this guy.

lemme know if you need to borrow a growler so you can bring some back ;D

Quote from: walkonby on August 15, 2013, 10:44:02 am
which columbus . . . i think every state has a columbus, like every state has a woodstock.

every state has a springfield.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 15, 2013, 10:59:42 am
Can't say that I've ever been, but I found this place that looks worthy:

http://wobusa.com/Locations/BreweryDistrict/Menus/Bottles.aspx

or possibly here?

http://www.surlygirlsaloon.com/booze.php


More at beermapping. (http://beermapping.com/a/677#lat=39.95199051941238&lng=-83.00085067749023&z=3)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 15, 2013, 10:59:45 am
Quote from: walkonby on August 15, 2013, 10:44:02 am
which columbus . . . i think every state has a columbus, like every state has a woodstock.

Oh yeah, sorry.  Columbus, Ohio.  I thought my skepticism of the place would've given it away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2013, 11:02:17 am
If you're talking about Columbus, Ohio, the Bodhi DIPA from Columbus Brewing is out of this world good. Not sure if they are bottling it yet, though they had plans to. They DO bottle their regular IPA, and it's very good as well.

Also, Bodega has an excellent draft list, with good food.

And sometimes Columbus gets shipments of Zombie Dust from Three Floyds. Also, White Rajah from the Brew Kettle sometimes makes it down that way. It's a top notch ipa. So if you're in a bottle shop or near the Whole Foods or Anderson Store out in the burbs, look for those. And Thirsty Dog's Imperial Stout is also something to grab.

If you were talking about a different Columbus, then scratch what i said.

Quote from: imbecile on August 15, 2013, 10:37:28 am
Sooo.. I'm going to Columbus tomorrow morning for the weekend?  Anything I should be on the lookout for?

From what I can tell, it's not a beer town at all, so I'll try and make the best of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 15, 2013, 11:09:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 15, 2013, 11:02:17 am
If you're talking about Columbus, Ohio, the Bodhi DIPA from Columbus Brewing is out of this world good. Not sure if they are bottling it yet, though they had plans to. They DO bottle their regular IPA, and it's very good as well.

Also, Bodega has an excellent draft list, with good food.

And sometimes Columbus gets shipments of Zombie Dust from Three Floyds. Also, White Rajah from the Brew Kettle sometimes makes it down that way. It's a top notch ipa. So if you're in a bottle shop or near the Whole Foods or Anderson Store out in the burbs, look for those. And Thirsty Dog's Imperial Stout is also something to grab.

If you were talking about a different Columbus, then scratch what i said.

Quote from: imbecile on August 15, 2013, 10:37:28 am
Sooo.. I'm going to Columbus tomorrow morning for the weekend?  Anything I should be on the lookout for?

From what I can tell, it's not a beer town at all, so I'll try and make the best of it.

good lord, you're a wealth of information.  I'd been googling for an hour and hadn't found anything as good as what you posted in a few minutes.  As a lover of hops, I'll be sure to keep an eye out for this.  Thanks.

Also, my general skepticism of spending a weekend in Columbus, Ohio has more to do with THE Ohio State fans than any real or percieved knowledge of their beer scene.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 15, 2013, 11:13:29 am
james ford was born with a silver beer tap in his mouth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 11:16:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 10:54:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 10:17:27 am
alright... trip to worcester, MA this weekend for a bachelor party on friday night.  and my new favorite brewery, tree house, has their stellar IPA on draft for growler hours. who's excited? this guy.

lemme know if you need to borrow a growler so you can bring some back ;D

plan is to fill two 750mls (there is a limit)... and hopefully i can stash one away for some time.  what's a good approach for storing growlers?  unopened, should be good for a while, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 15, 2013, 11:22:00 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 11:16:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 10:54:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 10:17:27 am
alright... trip to worcester, MA this weekend for a bachelor party on friday night.  and my new favorite brewery, tree house, has their stellar IPA on draft for growler hours. who's excited? this guy.

lemme know if you need to borrow a growler so you can bring some back ;D

plan is to fill two 750mls (there is a limit)... and hopefully i can stash one away for some time.  what's a good approach for storing growlers?  unopened, should be good for a while, right?

With a decent fill and capped on the foam, which pretty much everyone does, I've always been told they'll last unopened ~10 days in the fridge.

Never had one last that long, so I can't really say though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 11:22:51 am
Quote from: imbecile on August 15, 2013, 11:22:00 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 11:16:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 10:54:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 10:17:27 am
alright... trip to worcester, MA this weekend for a bachelor party on friday night.  and my new favorite brewery, tree house, has their stellar IPA on draft for growler hours. who's excited? this guy.

lemme know if you need to borrow a growler so you can bring some back ;D

plan is to fill two 750mls (there is a limit)... and hopefully i can stash one away for some time.  what's a good approach for storing growlers?  unopened, should be good for a while, right?

With a decent fill and capped on the foam, which pretty much everyone does, I've always been told they'll last unopened ~10 days in the fridge.

Never had one last that long, so I can't really say though.


I opened one after a month and it was still pretty good. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2013, 11:27:16 am
Eh, thanks.

We make the drive to the in-laws once a year in Indiana, so always look for interesting stops along the way. Columbus is usually our layover if we divide the drive into two days. Also have some good picks for the Cleveland area.

Quote from: imbecile on August 15, 2013, 11:09:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 15, 2013, 11:02:17 am
If you're talking about Columbus, Ohio, the Bodhi DIPA from Columbus Brewing is out of this world good. Not sure if they are bottling it yet, though they had plans to. They DO bottle their regular IPA, and it's very good as well.

Also, Bodega has an excellent draft list, with good food.

And sometimes Columbus gets shipments of Zombie Dust from Three Floyds. Also, White Rajah from the Brew Kettle sometimes makes it down that way. It's a top notch ipa. So if you're in a bottle shop or near the Whole Foods or Anderson Store out in the burbs, look for those. And Thirsty Dog's Imperial Stout is also something to grab.

If you were talking about a different Columbus, then scratch what i said.

Quote from: imbecile on August 15, 2013, 10:37:28 am
Sooo.. I'm going to Columbus tomorrow morning for the weekend?  Anything I should be on the lookout for?

From what I can tell, it's not a beer town at all, so I'll try and make the best of it.

good lord, you're a wealth of information.  I'd been googling for an hour and hadn't found anything as good as what you posted in a few minutes.  As a lover of hops, I'll be sure to keep an eye out for this.  Thanks.

Also, my general skepticism of spending a weekend in Columbus, Ohio has more to do with THE Ohio State fans than any real or percieved knowledge of their beer scene.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 11:27:53 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 11:16:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 10:54:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 10:17:27 am
alright... trip to worcester, MA this weekend for a bachelor party on friday night.  and my new favorite brewery, tree house, has their stellar IPA on draft for growler hours. who's excited? this guy.

lemme know if you need to borrow a growler so you can bring some back ;D

plan is to fill two 750mls (there is a limit)... and hopefully i can stash one away for some time.  what's a good approach for storing growlers?  unopened, should be good for a while, right?

well, if it's an IPA you won't want to stash it for too long anyways... drink that stuff fresh.

as for longevity/storage of a growler, it depends on how they fill it.  if they have a counter-pressure filler (flushes the container with CO2 then fills without letting air in), the beer will last for a while, maybe 4 to 6 weeks.  but if it's the more common approach of pouring the beer out of a regular tap, the beer is getting oxidized as it's going in... not good.  i wouldn't wait more than a week.  a big, dark beer like an RIS could probably stand 2 or 3 weeks, since some oxidation contributes to the style.  definitely keep it in the fridge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2013, 11:29:48 am
I asked this question last week at Hill Farmstead and was told:

"We recommend you drink it within a week."

The of course were referring to their IPA's.

We'll be drinking our third and last HF growler on the eight day perhaps stretching into the ninth (though I've always found it better to drink it all in one day), tomorrow.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 11:16:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 10:54:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 10:17:27 am
alright... trip to worcester, MA this weekend for a bachelor party on friday night.  and my new favorite brewery, tree house, has their stellar IPA on draft for growler hours. who's excited? this guy.

lemme know if you need to borrow a growler so you can bring some back ;D

plan is to fill two 750mls (there is a limit)... and hopefully i can stash one away for some time.  what's a good approach for storing growlers?  unopened, should be good for a while, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 11:40:14 am
looks like i'll be enjoying julius over the next week, and not any longer.  thanks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 15, 2013, 12:54:07 pm
You should drink a growler basically immediately IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 12:59:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 15, 2013, 12:54:07 pm
You should drink a growler basically immediately IMO.

Mine that was a month old was fully cabonated.  It still will taste better than bottled beer than has been sitting on a shelf at warehouse and then a liquor store for a year. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 15, 2013, 01:33:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 15, 2013, 12:54:07 pm
You should drink a growler basically immediately IMO.

fine i'll drink it all saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 15, 2013, 01:36:17 pm
growlers should be drunk same day after opening, well duh, walkonby . . . but i have been told that they should be opened and drunk within 2-5 days after they have been sealed.  i dont why, but i believed a big hunk of a bearish, shirtless man as he tells me about growlers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 15, 2013, 01:49:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 11:27:53 am
the more common approach of pouring the beer out of a regular tap, the beer is getting oxidized as it's going in... not good.  i wouldn't wait more than a week.  a big, dark beer like an RIS could probably stand 2 or 3 weeks, since some oxidation contributes to the style.  definitely keep it in the fridge.

I'm no expert...but this is good advice.  Since they are pouring it out of a tap, you get lots of that pesky oxygen in there.
And the 'seal' some guy screwing on a cap is not going to help much

and yes they must be drunk (as will you be) in one sitting
they will not last overnight
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 02:05:07 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 15, 2013, 01:49:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 11:27:53 am
the more common approach of pouring the beer out of a regular tap, the beer is getting oxidized as it's going in... not good.  i wouldn't wait more than a week.  a big, dark beer like an RIS could probably stand 2 or 3 weeks, since some oxidation contributes to the style.  definitely keep it in the fridge.

I'm no expert...but this is good advice.  Since they are pouring it out of a tap, you get lots of that pesky oxygen in there.
And the 'seal' some guy screwing on a cap is not going to help much

and yes they must be drunk (as will you be) in one sitting
they will not last overnight

That is not true.  I had one that still had good carbonation after a week after opening.

  You get oxygen in there when you bottle your home brew. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 02:50:13 pm
I like how people are giving advice on the subject with no personal knowledge.  No one is saying I drank a growler 2 weeks after getting it and it was awful or how it was fine.  They are basically using no evidence of any kind to back up what they are saying.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 15, 2013, 02:50:35 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 02:05:07 pm


That is not true.  I had one that still had good carbonation after a week after opening.

  You get oxygen in there when you bottle your home brew. 

Again...no expert, but when you add the yeast and let it bubble for a little while, then you fill a bottle.  There is some additional fermentation/conditioning that happens in the bottle
Once it's added to a keg and poured through a tap...you are not really getting any additional conditioning

...not an expert
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 15, 2013, 02:53:41 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 02:50:13 pm
I like how people are giving advice on the subject with no personal knowledge.  No one is saying I drank a growler 2 weeks after getting it and it was awful or how it was fine.  They are basically using no evidence of any kind to back up what they are saying.
Bought a Honey 21 Growler from Cap city (a very drinkable afternoon beer btw) and had 80% killed and left in the fridge sealed overnight.  Poured one the next afternoon and was flat as molly ringwald
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 15, 2013, 03:03:55 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 15, 2013, 02:53:41 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 02:50:13 pm
I like how people are giving advice on the subject with no personal knowledge.  No one is saying I drank a growler 2 weeks after getting it and it was awful or how it was fine.  They are basically using no evidence of any kind to back up what they are saying.
Bought a Honey 21 Growler from Cap city (a very drinkable afternoon beer btw) and had 80% killed and left in the fridge sealed overnight.  Poured one the next afternoon and was flat as molly ringwald

atomicfront doesn't know shit about shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 03:37:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 15, 2013, 03:03:55 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 15, 2013, 02:53:41 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 02:50:13 pm
I like how people are giving advice on the subject with no personal knowledge.  No one is saying I drank a growler 2 weeks after getting it and it was awful or how it was fine.  They are basically using no evidence of any kind to back up what they are saying.
Bought a Honey 21 Growler from Cap city (a very drinkable afternoon beer btw) and had 80% killed and left in the fridge sealed overnight.  Poured one the next afternoon and was flat as molly ringwald

atomicfront doesn't know shit about shit.

Know more than Yada.  Your script must not be working.  You might want to go back to development on that one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 04:51:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 15, 2013, 02:50:35 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 02:05:07 pm


That is not true.  I had one that still had good carbonation after a week after opening.

  You get oxygen in there when you bottle your home brew. 

Again...no expert, but when you add the yeast and let it bubble for a little while, then you fill a bottle.  There is some additional fermentation/conditioning that happens in the bottle
Once it's added to a keg and poured through a tap...you are not really getting any additional conditioning

...not an expert

yup.  when bottling homebrew you do indeed expose your beer to oxygen and this isn't a great thing - this is why you want to bottle quickly, and not let the beer sit in your bottling bucket overnight.   because you're adding priming sugar before bottling you're reactivating the yeast - and the yeast will scrub most if not all of that oxygen (this is done inside the bottle, not out in the open). 

when you fill a bottle with homebrew, you are (or should be) using a bottling wand that fills from the bottom up - which is great for reducing splashing and how much beer gets aerated.  when filling a growler from a bar tap, you are slowly pouring the beer through the air.  it falls from the tap, into the bottle, then dribbles along the sides until it hit the bottom.  it ALL gets exposed to air.

once again, atomic front is wrong.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 05:22:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 15, 2013, 04:51:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 15, 2013, 02:50:35 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 02:05:07 pm


That is not true.  I had one that still had good carbonation after a week after opening.

  You get oxygen in there when you bottle your home brew. 

Again...no expert, but when you add the yeast and let it bubble for a little while, then you fill a bottle.  There is some additional fermentation/conditioning that happens in the bottle
Once it's added to a keg and poured through a tap...you are not really getting any additional conditioning

...not an expert

yup.  when bottling homebrew you do indeed expose your beer to oxygen and this isn't a great thing - this is why you want to bottle quickly, and not let the beer sit in your bottling bucket overnight.   because you're adding priming sugar before bottling you're reactivating the yeast - and the yeast will scrub most if not all of that oxygen (this is done inside the bottle, not out in the open). 

when you fill a bottle with homebrew, you are (or should be) using a bottling wand that fills from the bottom up - which is great for reducing splashing and how much beer gets aerated.  when filling a growler from a bar tap, you are slowly pouring the beer through the air.  it falls from the tap, into the bottle, then dribbles along the sides until it hit the bottom.  it ALL gets exposed to air.

once again, atomic front is wrong.

You are wrong.  I can't believe people on here are such idiots.  Well in the beer thread.  If I say the beer is fine and carbonated a month after getting I am not wrong.  You have evidence you get through conjecture.  I have real life experience.  Beer was fine after a month.   Oxygen gets in when you bottle home brew.  I don't use a wand.  My beer tastes great.  But who cares you have your opinion based on nothing.  I have actual experience.  If you drank beer after a month and it was flat or skuny please say as much otherwise you are just talking out your azz.  But what do I expect you were trolling 6 years ago and you are trolling now. 

You must get beaten up a lot of you act like this in real life.  I mean someone says the beer was fine after a month after sitting in the fridge and you say the person is wrong.  I am guessing you are real fun at parties. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 15, 2013, 06:05:36 pm
Clearly the only way to solve this debate is for everybody to send me beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 15, 2013, 09:04:23 pm
Quote from: atomicfront on August 15, 2013, 05:22:00 pm
  I am guessing you are real fun at parties. 

I'm guessing you are not....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 15, 2013, 09:08:18 pm
Beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2013, 09:47:11 pm
In case any of y'all are into the hoppy beer fad...

MAX?S HOPFEST

AUGUST 16-18, 2013

11am-2am each day

No entrance fee

We will have over 70 Hoppy Draft and over 70 hoppy Bottles

CASKS:

Terrapin Golden Ale w/ Motueka

Terrapin Golden Ale w/ Galaxy

Terrapin Golden Ale w/ Strisselspalt

Terrapin Golden Ale w/ Golding

Terrapin Golden Ale w/ Nelson Sauvin

Flying Dog Double Dog

Flying Dog Imperial Sorachi Ace

Plus a few other Casks????????????????????.

ON DRAFT-90%DONE

21st Amendment Hop Crisis

Agullons Pura pale

Aztec Sacrifice Red IPA

Aztec Chipotle IPA

Baird Suruga Bay Imperial IPA

Ballast Point Dorado

Ballast Point Habanero Sculpin

Bear Republic Racer 5000

Bear Republic Black Racer

Bear Republic Crazy Ivan

Bear Republic Grand Am

Burley Oak Bulletproof Tiger

Burley Oak Aboriginal Gangster

Buxton Imperial Black IPA

Crown Valley Wooden Nickel IPA

Crown Valley Gunslinger Imperial IPA

Dieu Du Ciel Penombre

Dog/Baying Hound Scratch N Sniff White IPA

Dogfish Head 120 Minute

Dugges High Five

Elysian Konishiki

Evolution Incubator

Flying Dog Double Dog (Nitro)

Flying Dog Doggie Style (Nitro)

Flying Dog Raging Bitch(Nitro)

Flying Dog Snake Dog (Nitro)

Flying The Truth

Great Divide Rumble

Green Flash Hop Odyssey Citra Session

Green Flash Imperial IPA

Green Flash West Coast IPA

Haandbryggeriet Belgisk Pale

Heavy Seas Big DIPA

Kerkom Hop Verdomme

Lancaster Boss Hog

Lervig Rye IPA

Maine Mo

Marina Costa Brava

Marina Devils IPA

Marina pale Ale

Mikkeller/Lervig Big Eye

Mikkeller 20

Midifyns Double IPA

Oxbow Farmhouse Pale

Schlalfy Hoppy Wheat

Sierra Nevada West Coast IPA

Sierra Nevada Hoptimum

Sierra Nevada Belgian Black IPA

Smuttynose/Stone Cluster Last Stand

Smuttynose Dirty

Stone Coconut IPA

Stone 17th Anniversary

Stone Ruination tropical heat

Struise Hopverdomme

Struise Motuecha

Terrapin Monks Revenge

Troegs Scratch 97

Trou Du Diable Morsure

Toccalmatto B Space Invader

Toccalamtto Re Hop

Toccalmatto Skizoid

Toccalmatto Zona

Toccalmatto Grooving hop

To Ol Dangerously Close to Stoopid

Union Farmhouse Double IPA

Yards Cape of Good Hope

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 09:51:08 am
The Flying Dog Snake Dog (Nitro) sounds interesting.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 16, 2013, 09:55:39 am
Any reports from BeerWeekDC?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 16, 2013, 10:07:35 am
Probably one of the worst and least interesting choices on that list to me. What about it sounds interesting to you?

Quote from: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 09:51:08 am
The Flying Dog Snake Dog (Nitro) sounds interesting.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 10:08:46 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 16, 2013, 10:07:35 am
Probably one of the worst and least interesting choices on that list

Quote from: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 09:51:08 am
The Flying Dog Snake Dog (Nitro) sounds interesting.   

You are the worst and least interesting person in this thread.  I am sure you never had it before so once again you are talking about something you know nothing about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 16, 2013, 10:16:50 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 16, 2013, 09:55:39 am
Any reports from BeerWeekDC?

just in general? i've managed to catch a few events.

meridian pint sour takeover was fantastic on monday. it was a zoo.

glen's market had local rarities... it was okay.  good bratwurst.  it was a zoo.

last night hit up churchkey for bell's black note, bourbon cherry stout, and batch 9000.  all beers were delicious.  black note... that beer rules.  it was a zoo.

also went to smoke and barrel last night.  nothing blew me away. it was a zoo.

fun week of events and great beer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 16, 2013, 10:20:50 am
I've had many an ipa including Flying Dog Snake Dog, and it's below average to me, as far IPA's go. Nothing else they make that I've tried (probably eight to ten of their regular and special release beers) have ever been anything better than "good". And most are prettty "meh".

There are a number of breweries/IPA's they are pouring that I think more highly of that I would opt for in terms of trying something "new" or going with an old favorite.

Hence Snake Dog would be way, way down on my list.

Is it the "nitro" part that you find interesting?


Quote from: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 10:08:46 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 16, 2013, 10:07:35 am
Probably one of the worst and least interesting choices on that list

Quote from: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 09:51:08 am
The Flying Dog Snake Dog (Nitro) sounds interesting.   

You are the worst and least interesting person in this thread.  I am sure you never had it before so once again you are talking about something you know nothing about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 10:23:04 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 16, 2013, 10:20:50 am
I've had many an ipa including Flying Dog Snake Dog, and it's below average to me, as far IPA's go. Nothing else they make that I've tried (probably eight to ten of their regular and special release beers) have ever been anything better than "good". And most are prettty "meh".

There are a number of breweries/IPA's they are pouring that I think more highly of that I would opt for in terms of trying something "new" or going with an old favorite.

Hence Snake Dog would be way, way down on my list.

Is it the "nitro" part that you find interesting?


Quote from: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 10:08:46 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 16, 2013, 10:07:35 am
Probably one of the worst and least interesting choices on that list

Quote from: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 09:51:08 am
The Flying Dog Snake Dog (Nitro) sounds interesting.   

You are the worst and least interesting person in this thread.  I am sure you never had it before so once again you are talking about something you know nothing about.

Yes the Nitro.  I have had Snake Dog in bottle, draft, cask.  The interesting part is how Nitro compares to the over versions.  I really like the cask version not crazy about the other versions of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 16, 2013, 10:25:55 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 16, 2013, 10:16:50 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 16, 2013, 09:55:39 am
Any reports from BeerWeekDC?

just in general? i've managed to catch a few events.

meridian pint sour takeover was fantastic on monday. it was a zoo.

glen's market had local rarities... it was okay.  good bratwurst.  it was a zoo.

last night hit up churchkey for bell's black note, bourbon cherry stout, and batch 9000.  all beers were delicious.  black note... that beer rules.  it was a zoo.

also went to smoke and barrel last night.  nothing blew me away. it was a zoo.

fun week of events and great beer!

I think they should do beer week like the do NoisePop in SF or like SXSW (I think) where you can buy a badge and they limit the amount of people at the bar and always make sure there room for badge holders. Probably wouldn't work and the bars would gripe due to lost revenue.   But I think you could sell badges for $100 and people would line up to buy them.
It really makes it no fun when it's just insanely packed.  I've tried to invite mild beer fans to these events and the get to the door and they are like 'there is no way I'm going into that bar'  
I don't know why some of these bars don't just do two nights of the same event?  Obviously they are bringing in cash hand over fist on a weeknight
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 16, 2013, 10:31:32 am
Ok, I understand. Not a priority of mine, but I can certainly see where you're coming from.

Quote from: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 10:23:04 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 16, 2013, 10:20:50 am
I've had many an ipa including Flying Dog Snake Dog, and it's below average to me, as far IPA's go. Nothing else they make that I've tried (probably eight to ten of their regular and special release beers) have ever been anything better than "good". And most are prettty "meh".

There are a number of breweries/IPA's they are pouring that I think more highly of that I would opt for in terms of trying something "new" or going with an old favorite.

Hence Snake Dog would be way, way down on my list.

Is it the "nitro" part that you find interesting?


Quote from: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 10:08:46 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 16, 2013, 10:07:35 am
Probably one of the worst and least interesting choices on that list

Quote from: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 09:51:08 am
The Flying Dog Snake Dog (Nitro) sounds interesting.   

You are the worst and least interesting person in this thread.  I am sure you never had it before so once again you are talking about something you know nothing about.

Yes the Nitro.  I have had Snake Dog in bottle, draft, cask.  The interesting part is how Nitro compares to the over versions.  I really like the cask version not crazy about the other versions of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on August 16, 2013, 10:35:21 am
I hope Churchkey sells tickets for Zwanze Day this year. It's just not worth going to if its going to be as big of a clusterfuck as last year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 16, 2013, 10:36:07 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 16, 2013, 10:16:50 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 16, 2013, 09:55:39 am
Any reports from BeerWeekDC?

just in general? i've managed to catch a few events.

meridian pint sour takeover was fantastic on monday. it was a zoo.

glen's market had local rarities... it was okay.  good bratwurst.  it was a zoo.

last night hit up churchkey for bell's black note, bourbon cherry stout, and batch 9000.  all beers were delicious.  black note... that beer rules.  it was a zoo.

also went to smoke and barrel last night.  nothing blew me away. it was a zoo.

fun week of events and great beer!

It seems you should have just gone to the zoo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 16, 2013, 10:42:11 am
Quote from: grateful on August 16, 2013, 10:36:07 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 16, 2013, 10:16:50 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 16, 2013, 09:55:39 am
Any reports from BeerWeekDC?

just in general? i've managed to catch a few events.

meridian pint sour takeover was fantastic on monday. it was a zoo.

glen's market had local rarities... it was okay.  good bratwurst.  it was a zoo.

last night hit up churchkey for bell's black note, bourbon cherry stout, and batch 9000.  all beers were delicious.  black note... that beer rules.  it was a zoo.

also went to smoke and barrel last night.  nothing blew me away. it was a zoo.

fun week of events and great beer!

It seems you should have just gone to the zoo.

Brew at the Zoo?  I always say I am going to go to that but never end up making it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 16, 2013, 10:48:22 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 16, 2013, 10:25:55 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 16, 2013, 10:16:50 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 16, 2013, 09:55:39 am
Any reports from BeerWeekDC?

just in general? i've managed to catch a few events.

meridian pint sour takeover was fantastic on monday. it was a zoo.

glen's market had local rarities... it was okay.  good bratwurst.  it was a zoo.

last night hit up churchkey for bell's black note, bourbon cherry stout, and batch 9000.  all beers were delicious.  black note... that beer rules.  it was a zoo.

also went to smoke and barrel last night.  nothing blew me away. it was a zoo.

fun week of events and great beer!

I think they should do beer week like the do NoisePop in SF or like SXSW (I think) where you can buy a badge and they limit the amount of people at the bar and always make sure there room for badge holders. Probably wouldn't work and the bars would gripe due to lost revenue.   But I think you could sell badges for $100 and people would line up to buy them.
It really makes it no fun when it's just insanely packed.  I've tried to invite mild beer fans to these events and the get to the door and they are like 'there is no way I'm going into that bar'  
I don't know why some of these bars don't just do two nights of the same event?  Obviously they are bringing in cash hand over fist on a weeknight

i would be down for this. i'd also probably get fired because of it.

as my buddy proclaimed immediately when i finally found him at the bar at churchkey, "it's fucking amateur hour in here!".  lots of mild beer fans, crowding in to the city's best beer bar because it's an easy excuse to go out.  but hey, fuck it, if that means more people are interested in craft beer, and more beer bars open, and the city keeps getting better beer because of it, i'm all for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 16, 2013, 11:04:48 am
if you go to zoos, or support zoos . . . then i should be able to take your family and children from you, put them in cages, and stare at them for my amusement.  fuck zoos.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 16, 2013, 11:26:50 am
Quote from: walkonby on August 16, 2013, 11:04:48 am
if you go to zoos, or support zoos . . . then i should be able to take your family and children from you, put them in cages, and stare at them for my amusement.  fuck zoos.
yes Zoos do depress me too, kinda like the same way I feel at strip clubs

but sadly the only way we are going to save lots of species as we're destroying their habitat as fast as we possibly can
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 16, 2013, 11:36:14 am
Quote from: walkonby on August 16, 2013, 11:04:48 am
if you go to zoos, or support zoos . . . then i should be able to take your family and children from you, put them in cages, and stare at them for my amusement.  fuck zoos.

I loathe zoos.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 18, 2013, 08:49:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 16, 2013, 11:36:14 am
Quote from: walkonby on August 16, 2013, 11:04:48 am
if you go to zoos, or support zoos . . . then i should be able to take your family and children from you, put them in cages, and stare at them for my amusement.  fuck zoos.

I loathe zoos.


Zoos are cool..it is the slaughterhouses which are bad.  I find it funny that we have a bacon thread on here and no one has a problem with that but  zoos are wrong.

I had allagash dubbel and fat tire pumperkick tonight.  Both were ok.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 18, 2013, 09:59:57 pm
I had Heady Topper with dinner. It was ok.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 18, 2013, 10:00:46 pm
what is fat tire pumperkick?

Quote from: atomicfront on August 18, 2013, 08:49:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 16, 2013, 11:36:14 am
Quote from: walkonby on August 16, 2013, 11:04:48 am
if you go to zoos, or support zoos . . . then i should be able to take your family and children from you, put them in cages, and stare at them for my amusement.  fuck zoos.

I loathe zoos.


Zoos are cool..it is the slaughterhouses which are bad.  I find it funny that we have a bacon thread on here and no one has a problem with that but  zoos are wrong.

I had allagash dubbel and fat tire pumperkick tonight.  Both were ok.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 19, 2013, 12:00:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 18, 2013, 10:00:46 pm
what is fat tire pumperkick?

Quote from: atomicfront on August 18, 2013, 08:49:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 16, 2013, 11:36:14 am
Quote from: walkonby on August 16, 2013, 11:04:48 am
if you go to zoos, or support zoos . . . then i should be able to take your family and children from you, put them in cages, and stare at them for my amusement.  fuck zoos.

I loathe zoos.


Zoos are cool..it is the slaughterhouses which are bad.  I find it funny that we have a bacon thread on here and no one has a problem with that but  zoos are wrong.

I had allagash dubbel and fat tire pumperkick tonight.  Both were ok.

I meant new Belgium pumpkIck
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 19, 2013, 12:30:11 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 16, 2013, 10:16:50 am
last night hit up churchkey for bell's black note, bourbon cherry stout, and batch 9000.  all beers were delicious.  black note... that beer rules.  it was a zoo.

also went to smoke and barrel last night.  nothing blew me away. it was a zoo.

wanna know how big a zoo those two places were?  i was at both, at the same time as stevewizzle, looking for him, and couldn't find him.

due to an unexpected turn of events at work last thursday, i was at Churchkey by 5:30.  had an Allagash Confluence, a belgian/brett dry-hopped golden ale - recommended.  thanks to my early arrival, at about 6:05 i had in hand a bourbon barrel-aged Batch 9000, and a Black Note.  i wasn't paying attention when the server told me which was which (both are pitch black) so i had to take a sip of each to ID them.  and that sip of 9000 blew out my taste buds.  that was by far the most intense beer i have ever tried.  bar none.  after a single sip, i could barely taste the Black Note which is no slouch in intensity.  i got the amazing mouthfeel of the BN but very little of its flavors.  i left CK entirely satisfied, and a little bit tipsy. 

i dropped by a member of the DC Homebrewers Club who was moving to CA.  for an absolute pittance i walked out of there with a sizable haul of brewing gear, grains and hops.  as if my palette wasn't blown out enough, i spent an hour there drinking his delightful flanders red.  i let with a growler of 80% kolsch/20% flanders, a delightful mix that even my non-beer-loving BiL has been chugging all weekend.

i walked from Petworth to Adams Morgan stopping at Pete's Pizza in Columbia Heights.  their slices were quite nice and they have $8 delirium.

i probably didn't need to stop into the Smoke and Barrel, but i did anyways.  people looked at me funny as i walked in carrying buckets, carboys, and other assorted gear from the brewer's fire sale.  i had the yakuza but didn't enjoy it nearly as much as i probably should have.  the sorachi ace hops couldn't cut through.  i had a bourbon black that fared better, but half-way through i had to throw in the towel and make my way home... i feared the consequence of finishing that glass.

stevewizzle, i looked for you at the CK and S&B and didn't see you anywhere.  admittedly i spent most of my time at the S&B downstairs but i walked around upstairs twice.  i'm not surprised that i didn't see you at CK, the were at least 5 bodies between me and the bar.  i assume you were somewhere in there.

in a turn of events that i could have been predicted, i bumped into thedirector on the metro.  it was one of those nights.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 08:43:31 am
I've made a goal of not drinking any ghastly pumpkin beers this year...and they ALL are ghastly. I also typically don't drink Octoberfest beers. I do for some reason like Dogfish Indian Brown in the Fall. And we'll definitely be drinking our two cases of Heady.

But what else should we drink as the weather gets cooler?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 19, 2013, 09:01:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 08:43:31 am
I've made a goal of not drinking any ghastly pumpkin beers this year...and they ALL are ghastly. I also typically don't drink Octoberfest beers. I do for some reason like Dogfish Indian Brown in the Fall. And we'll definitely be drinking our two cases of Heady.

But what else should we drink as the weather gets cooler?

I agree... is there a more terrible beer than Pumpkin flavored beer?? Also, why are these being released in August?

When I'm not drinking Heady these days, I find myself enjoying 21st Amendment's Marooned on Hog Island Stoudt. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 09:20:33 am
Pumking was actually first out here in VA this year in July.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 19, 2013, 09:26:06 am
Quote from: atomicfront on August 18, 2013, 08:49:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 16, 2013, 11:36:14 am
Quote from: walkonby on August 16, 2013, 11:04:48 am
if you go to zoos, or support zoos . . . then i should be able to take your family and children from you, put them in cages, and stare at them for my amusement.  fuck zoos.

I loathe zoos.


Zoos are cool..it is the slaughterhouses which are bad.  I find it funny that we have a bacon thread on here and no one has a problem with that but  zoos are wrong.

I had allagash dubbel and fat tire pumperkick tonight.  Both were ok.

You guys are painting with too wide a brush when it comes to zoos.  I volunteer at our zoo, so I'm surely biased, but there are no less than 50 animals there that were injured in the wild and would be dead if it weren't for the zoo, as they're incapable of surviving in the wild.  Having a second chance at life, and living on average 10 years longer than you would in the wild is a pretty good deal for these animals.  Other ones, like the Columbus zoo which are really hands on and theme-parky, which don't seem to have great control over animals diets and well-being and their best interest are easy to not like.

Speaking of Columbus, i was able to make it Columbus Brewery and try the Bodhi.  Also tracked down the White Rajah from Brew Kettle.  Both were quite delicious.  Thanks again for the recommendation.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 09:31:47 am
Thanks for the positive feedback on zoos. As a meat avoiding vegetarian, I always feel a little hypocritical taking my kid to a zoo.

Also glad that you got to enjoy those two great Ohio IPA's. Hoping I can score some when I'm out on that section of country in December.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 19, 2013, 09:43:25 am
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2013, 09:01:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 08:43:31 am
I've made a goal of not drinking any ghastly pumpkin beers this year...and they ALL are ghastly. I also typically don't drink Octoberfest beers. I do for some reason like Dogfish Indian Brown in the Fall. And we'll definitely be drinking our two cases of Heady.

But what else should we drink as the weather gets cooler?

I agree... is there a more terrible beer than Pumpkin flavored beer?? Also, why are these being released in August?

When I'm not drinking Heady these days, I find myself enjoying 21st Amendment's Marooned on Hog Island Stoudt. 

Yeah double IPA's are much worse than Pumpkin beer.  Punkin from Dogfish Head is good.  I guess the beers are released early so they get to the stores in time for fall.  They can't be using fresh pumpkin. 

I like Marzens. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on August 19, 2013, 11:43:29 am
I went to the Flying Dog event at Smoke & Barrel Friday night. They were debuting The Truth, a year-round double IPA. I'm not usually a Flying Dog fan, only went there for the BBQ, but I was very impressed. I will be picking up a 6 pack whenever it hits stores.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 19, 2013, 12:15:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 19, 2013, 12:30:11 am
stevewizzle, i looked for you at the CK and S&B and didn't see you anywhere.  admittedly i spent most of my time at the S&B downstairs but i walked around upstairs twice.  i'm not surprised that i didn't see you at CK, the were at least 5 bodies between me and the bar.  i assume you were somewhere in there.

in a turn of events that i could have been predicted, i bumped into thedirector on the metro.  it was one of those nights.

HA! i was wondering what was up... i didn't expect to see you at CK, we got there at 630, i had beers pre-ordered from a friend, drank them, and left maybe 20 minutes later.  some unknown hero handed us a full pour of the cherry stout.  that batch 9000 was fucking great.  it was worth the hectic scene.

and S&B, that place rules, and I love going there (i think i've been at least once a week for the past two months?), but they moved around tables weird that night and it made it way too packed near the bar.  we ended up getting a table later on after 830, which made it a bit easier. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 19, 2013, 12:22:39 pm
growler and julius update.

i went out to tree house brewing company on saturday. between me and my buddy, we snagged seven 750ml growler fills, three of them being julius.  first, let me describe how fucking awesome this place is.

tree house is a nano-brewer i believe (5 barrel system), and they have four drafts constantly available.  the tree house exists, but the brew area is in a shed basically in some dudes back yard.  the place is stunningly gorgeous, the people were all incredibly friendly, and the beer was fantastic.  we put in our growler orders, and waited about 45 minutes for them to be filled.  they have a beautiful seating area, a small pond, and a gazebo and everyone kind of hangs out playing cards or whatever, talking to the brewers (while they brew!), or eating a lunch they packed.  record player spinning in the growler shop.  this is basically james ford's heaven.

the beer... i had tornado, that's what she said, and julius.  all three were great, that's what she said was a perfect milk stout, and tornado was an okay IPA, but julius.  holy shit julius.  that is the best beer i've ever drank.

and in regards to the growlers. i drank a julius immediately, i let tornado sit for 24 hours after i opened it and it went flat, and i packed the third julius growler in my luggage and plan to consume it tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 19, 2013, 12:46:52 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 19, 2013, 12:22:39 pm
growler and julius update.

i went out to tree house brewing company on saturday. between me and my buddy, we snagged seven 750ml growler fills, three of them being julius.  first, let me describe how fucking awesome this place is.

tree house is a nano-brewer i believe (5 barrel system), and they have four drafts constantly available.  the tree house exists, but the brew area is in a shed basically in some dudes back yard.  the place is stunningly gorgeous, the people were all incredibly friendly, and the beer was fantastic.  we put in our growler orders, and waited about 45 minutes for them to be filled.  they have a beautiful seating area, a small pond, and a gazebo and everyone kind of hangs out playing cards or whatever, talking to the brewers (while they brew!), or eating a lunch they packed.  record player spinning in the growler shop.  this is basically james ford's heaven.

the beer... i had tornado, that's what she said, and julius.  all three were great, that's what she said was a perfect milk stout, and tornado was an okay IPA, but julius.  holy shit julius.  that is the best beer i've ever drank.

and in regards to the growlers. i drank a julius immediately, i let tornado sit for 24 hours after i opened it and it went flat, and i packed the third julius growler in my luggage and plan to consume it tonight.

Sounds awesome. I can't say I'll ever be in that area but if so... I'll definitely check that out.

Also, atomicfront recommends keeping your growler for a month for maximum freshness. LOL
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 12:48:46 pm
Hey Stevewizzle (or anybody else),

Are there any public transporation accessible breweries to visit in the Boston area between Sunday and Wednesday? Planner that I am, I'm thinking ahead to a business trip in 2014. Sam and Harpoon are obvious choices, but maybe there are others? (Think Jack's Abbey is too far out, and wrong days)

JF
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 12:54:34 pm
Anybody ever tried Sam Adams Imperial Dopplebock?

Somehow I acquired a Walmart gift certificate, and it seeems natural to spend it on beer. The aforementioned beer seems like the best option at Walmart.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 12:58:24 pm
Have any of you Marylanders seen this anywhere? Definitely my favorite New Belgium beer, and one of the two original beers New Belgium did, along with Fat Tire. Yet, oddly it's not available in VA, though all their other stuff is. Their website does say it's available in MD.

(http://www.bevmo.com/Media/Images/ProductImagesFull/68389.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 19, 2013, 01:20:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2013, 12:46:52 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 19, 2013, 12:22:39 pm
growler and julius update.

i went out to tree house brewing company on saturday. between me and my buddy, we snagged seven 750ml growler fills, three of them being julius.  first, let me describe how fucking awesome this place is.

tree house is a nano-brewer i believe (5 barrel system), and they have four drafts constantly available.  the tree house exists, but the brew area is in a shed basically in some dudes back yard.  the place is stunningly gorgeous, the people were all incredibly friendly, and the beer was fantastic.  we put in our growler orders, and waited about 45 minutes for them to be filled.  they have a beautiful seating area, a small pond, and a gazebo and everyone kind of hangs out playing cards or whatever, talking to the brewers (while they brew!), or eating a lunch they packed.  record player spinning in the growler shop.  this is basically james ford's heaven.

the beer... i had tornado, that's what she said, and julius.  all three were great, that's what she said was a perfect milk stout, and tornado was an okay IPA, but julius.  holy shit julius.  that is the best beer i've ever drank.

and in regards to the growlers. i drank a julius immediately, i let tornado sit for 24 hours after i opened it and it went flat, and i packed the third julius growler in my luggage and plan to consume it tonight.

Sounds awesome. I can't say I'll ever be in that area but if so... I'll definitely check that out.

Also, atomicfront recommends keeping your growler for a month for maximum freshness. LOL

I didn't recommend it. I  said I had a growler in my closet and drank it after a month and it was fine. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 19, 2013, 01:31:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 12:48:46 pm
Hey Stevewizzle (or anybody else),

Are there any public transporation accessible breweries to visit in the Boston area between Sunday and Wednesday? Planner that I am, I'm thinking ahead to a business trip in 2014. Sam and Harpoon are obvious choices, but maybe there are others? (Think Jack's Abbey is too far out, and wrong days)

JF

i'll ask friends, but this is my 0.02:

lucky you, harpoon just expanded and they are right on the silver line.  there tour is more of just a drink-as-much-as-you-can event for cheap (it use to be free!), and i'd say it's worth it.

cambridge brewing company is fantastic. not far off from the kendall square T. and it's not too far from lord hobo, so you can hit two stops in one.

night shift is just outside of the city, and you could get there with a subway/bus combo.

bukowksi's is not a brewery, but it's amazing in it's own right.

won't be able to get out to jack's abbey using public trans, but i hear it's a great stop.  i believe it's free unlimited tastings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 19, 2013, 01:34:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2013, 12:46:52 pm
Sounds awesome. I can't say I'll ever be in that area but if so... I'll definitely check that out.

they are going through a litigation battle about operating where they do right now because of a disgruntled neighbor.  maybe we can convince them to move to DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 19, 2013, 03:16:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 12:58:24 pm
Have any of you Marylanders seen this anywhere? Definitely my favorite New Belgium beer, and one of the two original beers New Belgium did, along with Fat Tire. Yet, oddly it's not available in VA, though all their other stuff is. Their website does say it's available in MD.

yup, i've seen the abbey ale 'round my 'hood.  haven't tried it yet.  i can bring some to the next bottle share, trade ya for something we can't get o'er here.

Quote from: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 12:54:34 pm
Anybody ever tried Sam Adams Imperial Dopplebock?

Somehow I acquired a Walmart gift certificate, and it seeems natural to spend it on beer. The aforementioned beer seems like the best option at Walmart.

is this the what you're talking about? http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/47785.  if so: no, i haven't tried it, the two other "imperial series" that i've had were ok.  i'd be willing to give it a try on a gift certificate.  it's either that or a new pair of swim trunks, and no one wants that.

seems to me that "imperial dopplebock" would be redundant, since the "dopple" in dopplebock already implies the same thing as "imperial".  it would be like saying "imperial DIPA."    boston beer co. innovated the "triple bock" back in the 90's, to many purists chagrin. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 19, 2013, 04:07:17 pm
http://adage.com/article/news/millercoors-anheuser-busch-inbev-bet-boozier-brews/243717/ (http://adage.com/article/news/millercoors-anheuser-busch-inbev-bet-boozier-brews/243717/)

All you kids will be drinking Miller Fortune and Budweiser Black Crown before too long.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 20, 2013, 12:23:47 pm
quick reminder: DC Homebrewers BBQ is this saturday.  now looks like there might be limited homebrew being served.  in addition to food and craft beers (bells and boulevard!), there will be brewing demonstrations (3 different techniques) and 6 educational presentations. 


Greetings homebrewing enthusiasts!

 On August 24th, 2013, the DC Homebrewers (DCHB) will be hosting their 2nd Annual BBQ, sponsored by Sam Adams, at Kastles Stadium along the southwest waterfront in Washington, DC. The annual BBQ serves as a chance for the all-volunteer club to showcase and educate their members and the public on alternative brewing styles, sensory panels, and current industry standards to help new and advanced homebrewers take their brewing to the next level.

This year, all proceeds from the BBQ will benefit the Common Good City Farm, an urban farm and education center located on a half-acre lot in LeDroit Park.  Their mission is to grow food, educate, and help low-income DC community members meet their food needs and provide educational opportunities for all. For more information, visit http://commongoodcityfarm.org/.

Ticket price includes admission, a plate of BBQ (vegetarian option will be available), two sides, a hand-crafted soda, Sam Adams beer and an additional beer ticket for one of several craft beers that will be on tap during the event. Additional beer tickets will be available for $5.

DCHB BBQ Summary
Price: $15, kids 10 and under are free
When: Saturday August 24th, 2013 from 2-6 pm
Where: Kastles Stadium, 800 Water St. SW DC
 
Beers:
Sam Adams
Angry Orchard
Flying Dog
3 Stars
DC Brau
Bells
Boulevard
Mad Fox
Duvel
and more!
 
During the event we will have educational seminars presented by DCHB Club Members, Washington Nationals Natmobile for the kids, various vendors, games, and a raffle to help raise funds for the CGCF.
 
Raffle item highlights:
Odyssey Cruises
Uber Gift Cards
Private dinner from CESaute
Hat signed by Danny Espinosa
Ball signed by Wilson Ramos
Certificate good for 4 infield box Nationals tickets
Adam LaRoche personally donated signed and bat and ball
Booze, beer, art, brewing equipment, and much, much more!

Education:

Demonstrations
Extract Brewing with John Lutz: 3-5 PM
All Grain Brewing with Jim Koebel 2-6 PM
Brew-In-A-Bag with Peter Jones 2-6 PM
 
Presentations
2:45 - Nanomashing: Tasting Caramel Malts
3:15 - Homebrew Outreach and Participation Sisterhood (HOPS)
3:45 - Yeasts Gone Wild
4:15 - Brewing Historical Beers
4:45 - Beer Judging Tips and Tricks
5:15 - Hop Growing 101

Cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 20, 2013, 12:47:37 pm
can some brewery go ahead and have all of their beers put into bottles and then put into cans . . . let them all sit for 6 months and then have a can versus bottle throwdown, to finally put an end to this b.s.?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 20, 2013, 12:49:57 pm
i'll be at the bbq  8)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 20, 2013, 01:07:51 pm
Can anyone confirm if Wings is readily available at all times now at DC Brau?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 20, 2013, 01:10:05 pm
dc brau is making huge wavvvves . . .  oooh look, im edgy like the new kids . . . in my area all of a sudden.  people wearing shirts, stores carrying beers.  i think people look at dc "anything" differently, because of the success of the nationals, right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 20, 2013, 01:27:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 20, 2013, 01:10:05 pm
dc brau is making huge wavvvves . . .  oooh look, im edgy like the new kids . . . in my area all of a sudden.  people wearing shirts, stores carrying beers.  i think people look at dc "anything" differently, because of the success of the nationals, right now.

Two things... DC Brau has pretty crappy beer other than Wings IMO.

Also, what success are the Nationals having?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 20, 2013, 01:27:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 20, 2013, 01:07:51 pm
Can anyone confirm if Wings is readily available at all times now at DC Brau?
a lot of the hype seems to have died down now that it is a semi regular release so you have a reasonable chance of getting it any time although it could be anything from days old to 8 weeks old based on what I know about their schedule
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 20, 2013, 01:29:39 pm
people out here in the sticks all of sudden are coming out of the sticks to root for them.  good lord, i see so much nationals merch all over people and kids and dogs and cats and cars, in the last two years, i hate the color red now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 20, 2013, 01:32:27 pm
Quote from: brennser on August 20, 2013, 01:27:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 20, 2013, 01:07:51 pm
Can anyone confirm if Wings is readily available at all times now at DC Brau?
a lot of the hype seems to have died down now that it is a semi regular release so you have a reasonable chance of getting it any time although it could be anything from days old to 8 weeks old based on what I know about their schedule

Interesting, thanks...

Quote from: walkonby on August 20, 2013, 01:29:39 pm
people out here in the sticks all of sudden are coming out of the sticks to root for them.  good lord, i see so much nationals merch all over people and kids and dogs and cats and cars, in the last two years, i hate the color red now.

At least we know the fans in the sticks aren't bandwagon fans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 20, 2013, 01:34:59 pm
the only bandwagon, people in the sticks, are getting on, is the one to the liquor store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 20, 2013, 01:43:04 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 20, 2013, 12:47:37 pm
can some brewery go ahead and have all of their beers put into bottles and then put into cans . . . let them all sit for 6 months and then have a can versus bottle throwdown, to finally put an end to this b.s.?

there are several craft brewers who offer their beers in both cans and bottles.  sierra nevada, avery and brooklyn come immediately to mind.  you can (!) do the test yourself.

speaking of cans: http://www.craftcans.com/db.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 20, 2013, 01:49:15 pm
but then i would have to drink all that beer . . . oh, ok.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 20, 2013, 03:18:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 20, 2013, 01:07:51 pm
Can anyone confirm if Wings is readily available at all times now at DC Brau?

I popped by the brewery a few weeks ago and picked up a sixer of Wings with no problem. Granted it was their July batch since they haven't had a new release recently. Just give them a heads up if you're coming over during the day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 20, 2013, 03:21:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2013, 01:43:04 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 20, 2013, 12:47:37 pm
can some brewery go ahead and have all of their beers put into bottles and then put into cans . . . let them all sit for 6 months and then have a can versus bottle throwdown, to finally put an end to this b.s.?

there are several craft brewers who offer their beers in both cans and bottles.  sierra nevada, avery and brooklyn come immediately to mind.  you can (!) do the test yourself.

speaking of cans: http://www.craftcans.com/db.php

When I was young I used to drink Colt 45 out of 16 oz cans.  Terrible but cost effective.  The 40 oz version was in bottles but it usually got warm before I finished.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 20, 2013, 03:29:40 pm
The study found that five beer brands were consumed most often by people who ended up in the emergency room. They were Budweiser, Steel Reserve, Colt 45, Bud Ice and Bud Light.

http://www.freakonomics.com/2013/08/20/what-kind-of-beer-is-most-likely-to-land-you-in-the-e-r/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 20, 2013, 03:31:46 pm
Quote from: grateful on August 20, 2013, 03:29:40 pm
The study found that five beer brands were consumed most often by people who ended up in the emergency room. They were Budweiser, Steel Reserve, Colt 45, Bud Ice and Bud Light.

http://www.freakonomics.com/2013/08/20/what-kind-of-beer-is-most-likely-to-land-you-in-the-e-r/

Bud and Bud Light are just on the list because they are popular.   

But "Four malt liquors accounted for nearly half of the beer consumption by emergency room patients, even though they account for less than 3 percent of beer consumption in the general population."

Yeah if you are drinking a cheap beer with a high alcohol content you are probably intended to get messed up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 20, 2013, 04:14:28 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 20, 2013, 12:49:57 pm
i'll be at the bbq  8)

I've been thinking about going to this as well.  The BIAB exhibition interests me, as a logical next step on my way to all grain.

Was planning on brewing in the morning, then going to the United game at night... so it'll all depend on whether my wife allows me to completely piss away the entire day, ha.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 20, 2013, 04:17:35 pm
Schneiders just tweeted that The Oracle from Bell's is in stock.  Happy to see it hitting the area.

Definitely, quite high on my list of favorite DIPAs, but I'm a bit of a sucker for everything Bells puts out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 20, 2013, 04:29:03 pm
i will be assistant brewer on the BIAB demo.  come say hi.

see ya there, wizzle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 20, 2013, 11:29:11 pm
I had a Fordham helles lager at the game tonight and it was rather tasty.  Unique taste and yeast smell.  Had a Dempsey red.ale before it which was not unique in any way.  So.many beers these days are boring.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 21, 2013, 12:44:08 pm
The Penn Quarter Porter is a nice tasty low abv porter. Worth it when i snagged a six pack, not worth it in an overpriced bomber.

Quote from: Yada on August 20, 2013, 01:27:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 20, 2013, 01:10:05 pm
dc brau is making huge wavvvves . . .  oooh look, im edgy like the new kids . . . in my area all of a sudden.  people wearing shirts, stores carrying beers.  i think people look at dc "anything" differently, because of the success of the nationals, right now.

Two things... DC Brau has pretty crappy beer other than Wings IMO.

Also, what success are the Nationals having?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 21, 2013, 12:49:24 pm
Thanks but I'll pass on the trade. Gotta cut myself off on acquiring new beer for awhile. Though do try it for yourself. Got a six pack for $7.99 in Indiana, bound to be higher in MD. Cheaper than four pack of Ommegang Abbey Ale and nearly as good. Cheaper than a four back of Allagash Dubbel and better tasting. I'll hold off and pick up some in Indiana in December.

Picked up a couple of four packs of that Sam Adams Dopplebock with part of my gift card. Decent, but won't be giving Ayinger or Andescher a run for their money. A bit more boozy (9.5 abv) than i want a dopplebock to be.


Quote from: sweetcell on August 19, 2013, 03:16:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 12:58:24 pm
Have any of you Marylanders seen this anywhere? Definitely my favorite New Belgium beer, and one of the two original beers New Belgium did, along with Fat Tire. Yet, oddly it's not available in VA, though all their other stuff is. Their website does say it's available in MD.

yup, i've seen the abbey ale 'round my 'hood.  haven't tried it yet.  i can bring some to the next bottle share, trade ya for something we can't get o'er here.

Quote from: James Ford on August 19, 2013, 12:54:34 pm
Anybody ever tried Sam Adams Imperial Dopplebock?

Somehow I acquired a Walmart gift certificate, and it seeems natural to spend it on beer. The aforementioned beer seems like the best option at Walmart.

is this the what you're talking about? http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/47785.  if so: no, i haven't tried it, the two other "imperial series" that i've had were ok.  i'd be willing to give it a try on a gift certificate.  it's either that or a new pair of swim trunks, and no one wants that.

seems to me that "imperial dopplebock" would be redundant, since the "dopple" in dopplebock already implies the same thing as "imperial".  it would be like saying "imperial DIPA."    boston beer co. innovated the "triple bock" back in the 90's, to many purists chagrin. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 21, 2013, 01:13:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 21, 2013, 12:44:08 pm
The Penn Quarter Porter is a nice tasty low abv porter. Worth it when i snagged a six pack, not worth it in an overpriced bomber.

Quote from: Yada on August 20, 2013, 01:27:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 20, 2013, 01:10:05 pm
dc brau is making huge wavvvves . . .  oooh look, im edgy like the new kids . . . in my area all of a sudden.  people wearing shirts, stores carrying beers.  i think people look at dc "anything" differently, because of the success of the nationals, right now.

Two things... DC Brau has pretty crappy beer other than Wings IMO.

Also, what success are the Nationals having?

I'll agree it's pretty good, but not worth a trip to the brewery...I've never seen it elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 21, 2013, 01:48:33 pm
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/6IS4okgExwa2kcQ7vxrxHQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/big-data-download/findthebestbeer.png)

I have only had Smithwicks and Affigem from this list.  Prefer the Affigem though Smithwicks is good in a pinch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 21, 2013, 01:56:21 pm
Agreed. They did special release six packs awhile back, I picked up one at Total Wine about 3 miles from my house.

Quote from: Yada on August 21, 2013, 01:13:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 21, 2013, 12:44:08 pm
The Penn Quarter Porter is a nice tasty low abv porter. Worth it when i snagged a six pack, not worth it in an overpriced bomber.

Quote from: Yada on August 20, 2013, 01:27:40 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 20, 2013, 01:10:05 pm
dc brau is making huge wavvvves . . .  oooh look, im edgy like the new kids . . . in my area all of a sudden.  people wearing shirts, stores carrying beers.  i think people look at dc "anything" differently, because of the success of the nationals, right now.

Two things... DC Brau has pretty crappy beer other than Wings IMO.

Also, what success are the Nationals having?

I'll agree it's pretty good, but not worth a trip to the brewery...I've never seen it elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2013, 08:50:16 am
Had a Café Racer 15 last night prior to dinner at Church Key and damn was it delicious... amazing west coast DIPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 22, 2013, 08:55:45 am
Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2013, 08:50:16 am
Had a Café Racer 15 last night prior to dinner at Church Key and damn was it delicious... amazing west coast DIPA.

Bah.. when I went a grabbed The Oracle, I saw this and seriously considered it as well, but ended up passing.  May have to trek back out for it.

Racer 5 is usually my go to beer at iota when I can't make a decision.  Is the 15 just a bigger better version? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2013, 08:56:50 am
Quote from: imbecile on August 22, 2013, 08:55:45 am
Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2013, 08:50:16 am
Had a Café Racer 15 last night prior to dinner at Church Key and damn was it delicious... amazing west coast DIPA.

Bah.. when I went a grabbed The Oracle, I saw this and seriously considered it as well, but ended up passing.  May have to trek back out for it.

Racer 5 is usually my go to beer at iota when I can't make a decision.  Is the 15 just a bigger better version? 

Absolutely... Really can't even compare it to Racer 5 IMO. Much much better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 22, 2013, 11:04:47 am
now I'm intrigued and want to try

Notes:
 Café Racer 15? features aromas of bright citrus and resinous pine from the generous use of Citra, Amarillo, Cascade and Chinook hops which are complimented by a dry malt finish. The result is a high revving Double IPA that is loud and assertive, much like the rebellious street racers who inspired it. Never ride alone...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on August 25, 2013, 09:30:32 pm
 5 beers linked to most er visits  (http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bal-beer-emergency-room,0,929329.story?obref=obnetwork)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 25, 2013, 10:28:11 pm
I had one of these alongside a Stone Enjoy By 9.13.13 at the Virginia Beach Whole Foods yesterday. Stone was the clear winner.

Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2013, 08:50:16 am
Had a Café Racer 15 last night prior to dinner at Church Key and damn was it delicious... amazing west coast DIPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on August 26, 2013, 09:34:15 am
Over the weekend I picked up a six pack of Flying Dog's new DIPA, The Truth. It was damn delicious. It has Warrior, Summit, CTZ, Citra, and Amarillo hops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 26, 2013, 09:55:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 25, 2013, 10:28:11 pm
I had one of these alongside a Stone Enjoy By 9.13.13 at the Virginia Beach Whole Foods yesterday. Stone was the clear winner.

Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2013, 08:50:16 am
Had a Café Racer 15 last night prior to dinner at Church Key and damn was it delicious... amazing west coast DIPA.

Haven't had the 9/13, but in general have been disappointed by all of the past "enjoy by" bottles.

Picked up a sixer of Oracle this weekend as well as a case of Wings.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 26, 2013, 10:30:21 am
Quote from: Yada on August 26, 2013, 09:55:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 25, 2013, 10:28:11 pm
I had one of these alongside a Stone Enjoy By 9.13.13 at the Virginia Beach Whole Foods yesterday. Stone was the clear winner.

Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2013, 08:50:16 am
Had a Café Racer 15 last night prior to dinner at Church Key and damn was it delicious... amazing west coast DIPA.

Haven't had the 9/13, but in general have been disappointed by all of the past "enjoy by" bottles.

Picked up a sixer of Oracle this weekend as well as a case of Wings.  :o :o :o

Oh man, nice haul.

I was able to find some Racer 15 over the weekend.  Will be giving it a try tonight.  Definitely looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 26, 2013, 10:42:52 am
Quote from: imbecile on August 26, 2013, 10:30:21 am
Quote from: Yada on August 26, 2013, 09:55:33 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 25, 2013, 10:28:11 pm
I had one of these alongside a Stone Enjoy By 9.13.13 at the Virginia Beach Whole Foods yesterday. Stone was the clear winner.

Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2013, 08:50:16 am
Had a Café Racer 15 last night prior to dinner at Church Key and damn was it delicious... amazing west coast DIPA.

Haven't had the 9/13, but in general have been disappointed by all of the past "enjoy by" bottles.

Picked up a sixer of Oracle this weekend as well as a case of Wings.  :o :o :o

Oh man, nice haul.

I was able to find some Racer 15 over the weekend.  Will be giving it a try tonight.  Definitely looking forward to it.

I've said it before, but I'm blown away by how tasty Wings is... In a blind taste test, I could be tricked into thinking I was drinking a Heady.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 26, 2013, 11:46:04 am
finally tried a Midas Touch this weekend.  i didn't have high hopes for the muscat grape + saffron combo but it actually works.  yes, i'm late to this party.

i've been drinking the hell outta Smuttynose Baltic Porter.  i think it was Yada who brought a bottle to the last bottle share... great beer.  amazing clean malt flavors.

these two beers have the troublesome characteristic of completely hiding their 9% ABV. 

Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on August 26, 2013, 09:34:15 am
Over the weekend I picked up a six pack of Flying Dog's new DIPA, The Truth. It was damn delicious. It has Warrior, Summit, CTZ, Citra, and Amarillo hops.

i've been looking for this, haven't come across it yet.  definitely sounds tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 26, 2013, 11:48:03 am
Yada was at the last bottle share?  Did I miss one?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 26, 2013, 12:04:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 26, 2013, 11:46:04 am
i've been drinking the hell outta Smuttynose Baltic Porter.  i think it was Yada who brought a bottle to the last bottle share... great beer.  amazing clean malt flavors.

'twas me.

that's an under-the-radar, oh shit this is amazing, type of beer.

there's a healthy stock at p st whole foods for $6.99.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 26, 2013, 12:06:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 26, 2013, 09:55:33 am
Picked up a sixer of Oracle this weekend as well as a case of Wings.  :o :o :o

how's oracle?

i'm right there with you on the wings hype.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 26, 2013, 12:16:48 pm
Their regular porter is one of my three favorite year round six pack porters, along with Founders and Great Lakes. Wish DC Brau would can PQP year round, because nearly as good as those three, imo.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 26, 2013, 12:04:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 26, 2013, 11:46:04 am
i've been drinking the hell outta Smuttynose Baltic Porter.  i think it was Yada who brought a bottle to the last bottle share... great beer.  amazing clean malt flavors.

'twas me.

that's an under-the-radar, oh shit this is amazing, type of beer.

there's a healthy stock at p st whole foods for $6.99.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 26, 2013, 12:18:10 pm
I passed on oracle, still feeling like bell's ripped me off with 2013 hopslam.

I did pick up Stone 17th and Enjoy By 9.13.13.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 26, 2013, 12:31:11 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 26, 2013, 12:06:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 26, 2013, 09:55:33 am
Picked up a sixer of Oracle this weekend as well as a case of Wings.  :o :o :o

how's oracle?

i'm right there with you on the wings hype.

Haven't tried it yet...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 26, 2013, 01:31:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 26, 2013, 11:48:03 am
Yada was at the last bottle share?  Did I miss one?

uh, the bottle share was at your place... ;D

yada was the new guy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 26, 2013, 01:44:22 pm
Yada was not at my place. I haven't met him yet.

BrettnotBrit made his first appearance at my place.


 
Quote from: sweetcell on August 26, 2013, 01:31:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 26, 2013, 11:48:03 am
Yada was at the last bottle share?  Did I miss one?

uh, the bottle share was at your place... ;D

yada was the new guy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 26, 2013, 01:57:35 pm
Quote

Haven't had the 9/13, but in general have been disappointed by all of the past "enjoy by" bottles.

Picked up a sixer of Oracle this weekend as well as a case of Wings.  :o :o :o

You know when the Wings was brewed? Just curious since their last batch was made in July.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 26, 2013, 02:05:16 pm
just pur it in a growler and it will be fresh forever

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on August 26, 2013, 01:57:35 pm
Quote

Haven't had the 9/13, but in general have been disappointed by all of the past "enjoy by" bottles.

Picked up a sixer of Oracle this weekend as well as a case of Wings.  :o :o :o

You know when the Wings was brewed? Just curious since their last batch was made in July.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 26, 2013, 02:20:33 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on August 26, 2013, 01:57:35 pm
Quote

Haven't had the 9/13, but in general have been disappointed by all of the past "enjoy by" bottles.

Picked up a sixer of Oracle this weekend as well as a case of Wings.  :o :o :o

You know when the Wings was brewed? Just curious since their last batch was made in July.

The guy I asked said two to three weeks ago and that they should have another batch canned within the next two weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 26, 2013, 02:23:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 26, 2013, 01:44:22 pm
Yada was not at my place. I haven't met him yet.

BrettnotBrit made his first appearance at my place.


Sockpuppet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 26, 2013, 02:50:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 26, 2013, 01:44:22 pm
Yada was not at my place. I haven't met him yet.

BrettnotBrit made his first appearance at my place.

d'oh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 26, 2013, 03:52:36 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 26, 2013, 12:06:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 26, 2013, 09:55:33 am
Picked up a sixer of Oracle this weekend as well as a case of Wings.  :o :o :o

how's oracle?

i'm right there with you on the wings hype.

I thought this years Oracle is consistent with previous years.  The aroma of it is huge, it's great, very piney, definitely going for a pacific northwest profile.  I think my batch was bottled August 9th, so quite fresh.  In my opinion, it's not the best balanced beer.  The 10% abv of it does make it come off a bit too boozy/bitter sometimes but other than that, which I don't have a problem with, i really like it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 27, 2013, 11:12:28 am
i snagged an oracle last night for my fantasy football draft.

it was tasty.  didn't get a huge nose.  would drink again, but would rather spend my money on sculpin or something more balanced.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 27, 2013, 11:37:31 am
Finished the last of my Heady Topper supply last night.

I am sad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 27, 2013, 11:50:33 am
finally got to try rubaeus.  that's a damn nice fruit beer.  the missus is in love with the stuff but can't drink it much at the moment.  i've been given orders to find more - hopefully the stuff will keep for a month or two.  doesn't seem like a beer that was made for cellaring but gotta get while the gettin' is good.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 27, 2013, 11:12:28 am
i snagged an oracle last night for my fantasy football draft.
 
but our draft isn't until next week... wait - ARE YOU SEEING OTHER LEAGUES?!?  BASTARD!!!

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on August 27, 2013, 11:37:31 am
Finished the last of my Heady Topper supply last night.

I am sad.

now i'm sad too... that means no HT at the next bottle share <cries>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on August 27, 2013, 01:11:16 pm
DC Brau is canning OTWOA today! Can't wait until Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 27, 2013, 01:23:54 pm
Founders vs. Lyon Hall Beer Dinner

 10/01/2013
 7:00 pm - 10:00 pm
 Lyon Hall
 Beer Dinners

In the spirit of friendly competition, Founders will be going up against the rest of the beer world in a beer dinner challenge. We will be pairing only Founders beers with the dinner, while the beverage guru for Lyon Hall gets to choose any beer available to him. This is going to be the dinner of all dinners: 4-5 courses, with 8-10 beers. We are still working on the menu and pricing, but you can bet your bum we will be featuring some Breakfast Stout. Tickets are limited to 35 people, so get them early. More info to come!!

Please contact Lyon Hall with questions at (703) 741-7636.


Only 35 tickets!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 27, 2013, 01:47:23 pm
good . . . lord.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 27, 2013, 02:36:09 pm
http://narrative.ly/drinking-buddies/the-wonderbrewer-of-nowheresville/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 27, 2013, 03:01:11 pm
I bet it would make a great float with Ben and Jerry's Liz Lemon.

Actually, I sort of mixed the two over the weekend and it was quite tasty.

Quote from: sweetcell on August 27, 2013, 11:50:33 am
finally got to try rubaeus.  that's a damn nice fruit beer.  the missus is in love with the stuff but can't drink it much at the moment.  i've been given orders to find more - hopefully the stuff will keep for a month or two.  doesn't seem like a beer that was made for cellaring but gotta get while the gettin' is good.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 27, 2013, 11:12:28 am
i snagged an oracle last night for my fantasy football draft.
 
but our draft isn't until next week... wait - ARE YOU SEEING OTHER LEAGUES?!?  BASTARD!!!

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on August 27, 2013, 11:37:31 am
Finished the last of my Heady Topper supply last night.

I am sad.

now i'm sad too... that means no HT at the next bottle share <cries>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 27, 2013, 04:45:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 27, 2013, 11:50:33 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 27, 2013, 11:12:28 am
i snagged an oracle last night for my fantasy football draft.
 
but our draft isn't until next week... wait - ARE YOU SEEING OTHER LEAGUES?!?  BASTARD!!!

i'm sorry you had to find out this way "/

other league is a 10-team keeper league. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on August 28, 2013, 11:30:39 am
Had some awesome beers lately.  Last night I had Helles Schlenkerla Lager which was amazing.  I also had two Ettal beers.  Their Dunkel and their Helles.  Both were quite outstanding. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 28, 2013, 11:51:55 am
Quote from: atomic on August 28, 2013, 11:30:39 am
Had some awesome beers lately.  Last night I had Helles Schlenkerla Lager which was amazing.  I also had two Ettal beers.  Their Dunkel and their Helles.  Both were quite outstanding. 

your taste in beer sucks and no one cares.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 28, 2013, 12:00:46 pm
Quote from: atomic on August 28, 2013, 11:30:39 am
Had some awesome beers lately.  Last night I had Helles Schlenkerla Lager which was amazing.  I also had two Ettal beers.  Their Dunkel and their Helles.  Both were quite outstanding. 
hmmm...who's this atomic dude?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on August 28, 2013, 01:08:21 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 28, 2013, 11:51:55 am
Quote from: atomic on August 28, 2013, 11:30:39 am
Had some awesome beers lately.  Last night I had Helles Schlenkerla Lager which was amazing.  I also had two Ettal beers.  Their Dunkel and their Helles.  Both were quite outstanding. 

your taste in beer sucks and no one cares.

Troll. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on August 28, 2013, 01:25:28 pm
I am going to probably go to the Ettal Monstary to get some of their beers fresh.  It is pretty close to the place we are staying in the Bavarian Alps so it is pretty much a must stop. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 28, 2013, 01:48:25 pm
Quote from: atomic on August 28, 2013, 01:25:28 pm
I am going to probably go to the Ettal Monstary to get some of their beers fresh.  It is pretty close to the place we are staying in the Bavarian Alps so it is pretty much a must stop. 

Definitely try and go if you can.  I went several years ago when I was staying in nearby Garmisch for a winter holiday.  It was absolutely gorgeous.  I would mention the beer, but you're already aware of it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on August 28, 2013, 01:57:19 pm
Quote from: imbecile on August 28, 2013, 01:48:25 pm
Quote from: atomic on August 28, 2013, 01:25:28 pm
I am going to probably go to the Ettal Monstary to get some of their beers fresh.  It is pretty close to the place we are staying in the Bavarian Alps so it is pretty much a must stop. 

Definitely try and go if you can.  I went several years ago when I was staying in nearby Garmisch for a winter holiday.  It was absolutely gorgeous.  I would mention the beer, but you're already aware of it. 

Cool.  I will be staying in Garmisch as well. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on August 28, 2013, 10:26:36 pm
Cantillon announced churchkey as its DC location for zwanze day, September 14.  Nothing on CK site yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 28, 2013, 10:32:03 pm
Quotes from the 70 year old guys sitting next to me at Pizza Paradiso Old Town tonight:

"I sure wish they had some lagers or pilsners on this draft list."

"I don't like the citrus tasting beers."

"$45 for a bottle of beer? That has to be some kind of mistake. That just CAN'T be true. Oh wait it's 750 ml. Is that more than the usual serving size?" Other guy: "Yeah, it's about two cans. But still, must be a mistake."

"I left Church A for Church B because at Church A they love the IDEA of God, but at Church B they love God."

"When I witness for the Lord I always ask somebody who doesn't believe in God how he can live a life filled with such emptiness...."

....and about 60 minutes of really loud detailed conversation on theology that had both me and my six year old rolling our eyes.


Oh and I had a Terrapin Hopzilla and a Sinebrechoff (sp?) Baltic Porter. The former a bit too boozy, the latter a bit too bland.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on August 29, 2013, 10:47:41 am
Quote from: medeski7 on August 28, 2013, 10:26:36 pm
Cantillon announced churchkey as its DC location for zwanze day, September 14.  Nothing on CK site yet.

It was a disaster last year. Unless they sell tickets this year, I won't be going back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 10:54:39 am
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on August 26, 2013, 09:34:15 am
Over the weekend I picked up a six pack of Flying Dog's new DIPA, The Truth. It was damn delicious. It has Warrior, Summit, CTZ, Citra, and Amarillo hops.

anyone else track this down yet?   hear its just hitting the stores in MD and DC
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on August 29, 2013, 11:04:26 am
Quote from: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 10:54:39 am
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on August 26, 2013, 09:34:15 am
Over the weekend I picked up a six pack of Flying Dog's new DIPA, The Truth. It was damn delicious. It has Warrior, Summit, CTZ, Citra, and Amarillo hops.

anyone else track this down yet?   hear its just hitting the stores in MD and DC

Yes, had it on draft for beer week and picked up a 6 pack last weekend. I'm not a fan of Flying Dog, but this one is outstanding. It's probably the best beer of theirs I've tried and one of the best cheap DIPAs out there ($12/6).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 12:03:05 pm
Where did you pick up a six pack from and are there any left?

Quote from: fatskippy on August 29, 2013, 11:04:26 am
Quote from: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 10:54:39 am
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on August 26, 2013, 09:34:15 am
Over the weekend I picked up a six pack of Flying Dog's new DIPA, The Truth. It was damn delicious. It has Warrior, Summit, CTZ, Citra, and Amarillo hops.

anyone else track this down yet?   hear its just hitting the stores in MD and DC

Yes, had it on draft for beer week and picked up a 6 pack last weekend. I'm not a fan of Flying Dog, but this one is outstanding. It's probably the best beer of theirs I've tried and one of the best cheap DIPAs out there ($12/6).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 12:09:48 pm
7th street spirit shop in Frederick had a couple cases as of yesterday
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 12:13:47 pm
Thanks, You might as well have said Mars.

 :'(
Quote from: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 12:09:48 pm
7th street spirit shop in Frederick had a couple cases as of yesterday
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on August 29, 2013, 12:21:11 pm
WF P St.

Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 12:03:05 pm
Where did you pick up a six pack from and are there any left?

Quote from: fatskippy on August 29, 2013, 11:04:26 am
Quote from: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 10:54:39 am
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on August 26, 2013, 09:34:15 am
Over the weekend I picked up a six pack of Flying Dog's new DIPA, The Truth. It was damn delicious. It has Warrior, Summit, CTZ, Citra, and Amarillo hops.

anyone else track this down yet?   hear its just hitting the stores in MD and DC

Yes, had it on draft for beer week and picked up a 6 pack last weekend. I'm not a fan of Flying Dog, but this one is outstanding. It's probably the best beer of theirs I've tried and one of the best cheap DIPAs out there ($12/6).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 29, 2013, 12:23:29 pm
Debating what to tailgate with for the Terps game on Saturday. Great Lakes Dortmunder Gold might be the winner here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 12:23:48 pm
now you're talking my planet. Thanks.

Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on August 29, 2013, 12:21:11 pm
WF P St.

Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 12:03:05 pm
Where did you pick up a six pack from and are there any left?

Quote from: fatskippy on August 29, 2013, 11:04:26 am
Quote from: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 10:54:39 am
Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on August 26, 2013, 09:34:15 am
Over the weekend I picked up a six pack of Flying Dog's new DIPA, The Truth. It was damn delicious. It has Warrior, Summit, CTZ, Citra, and Amarillo hops.

anyone else track this down yet?   hear its just hitting the stores in MD and DC

Yes, had it on draft for beer week and picked up a 6 pack last weekend. I'm not a fan of Flying Dog, but this one is outstanding. It's probably the best beer of theirs I've tried and one of the best cheap DIPAs out there ($12/6).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on August 29, 2013, 01:47:49 pm
I picked up Flying Dog's The Truth two days ago at perfect pour.  They had a few left.  Very nice dipa.

Are you guys changing your font sizes?  My posts appear smaller on my screen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 29, 2013, 01:48:52 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on August 29, 2013, 01:47:49 pm
I picked up Flying Dog's The Truth two days ago at perfect pour.  They had a few left.  Very nice dipa.

Are you guys changing your font sizes?  My posts appear smaller on my screen.

new poster!

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:08:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?

If you're bringing something to a friend's house, I find it a nice gesture to bring something you'd think they would like/enjoy.

Also, if there are four of you, you should be bringing more than one six pack, so bring one that you know they'd like and if you want to bring a sixer of something fancy for you and wife, then do it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 02:15:07 pm
There are four of us, but none of us are alcoholics. So a sixer will probably suffice.  Also, one person just had a baby and is nursing, so likely not drinking anything at all.

Also, we are bringing all the food, so they'll likely supply some beer as well. And it won't be catered to our tastes based on past experience.


Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:08:39 pm

Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?

If you're bringing something to a friend's house, I find it a nice gesture to bring something you'd think they would like/enjoy.

Also, if there are four of you, you should be bringing more than one six pack, so bring one that you know they'd like and if you want to bring a sixer of something fancy for you and wife, then do it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:17:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 02:15:07 pm
There are four of us, but none of us are alcoholics. So a sixer will probably suffice.  Also, one person just had a baby and is nursing, so likely not drinking anything at all.

Also, we are bringing all the food, so they'll likely supply some beer as well. And it won't be catered to our tastes based on past experience.


Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:08:39 pm

Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?

If you're bringing something to a friend's house, I find it a nice gesture to bring something you'd think they would like/enjoy.

Also, if there are four of you, you should be bringing more than one six pack, so bring one that you know they'd like and if you want to bring a sixer of something fancy for you and wife, then do it.

If you drink more than 1.5 beers you're considered an alcoholic?

I hope you're bringing some mashed potatoes to that party!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 29, 2013, 03:33:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:17:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 02:15:07 pm
There are four of us, but none of us are alcoholics. So a sixer will probably suffice.  Also, one person just had a baby and is nursing, so likely not drinking anything at all.

Also, we are bringing all the food, so they'll likely supply some beer as well. And it won't be catered to our tastes based on past experience.


Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:08:39 pm

Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?

If you're bringing something to a friend's house, I find it a nice gesture to bring something you'd think they would like/enjoy.

Also, if there are four of you, you should be bringing more than one six pack, so bring one that you know they'd like and if you want to bring a sixer of something fancy for you and wife, then do it.

If you drink more than 1.5 beers you're considered an alcoholic?

I hope you're bringing some mashed potatoes to that party!

Interesting topic. 

When I go to someones house for a few beers, I usually bring the amount that I plan on drinking.    I'm not going to just carry a few bottles, so it's usually a sixer.  That would be the same if it were my wife and I heading over.  The thinking being,  you don't invite someone over and expect them to bring all the beer.  You have some of your own, just not enough for everyone so you say bring beer.  Then when you get there, you brought what you like, they have what they like.. you drink whatever, trying both and all is well; if they don't like your beer they're good because they have theirs and vice versa. 

Is that not right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on August 29, 2013, 03:38:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?

I would think most people would not like Double IPA's.  If you are bringing beer over to someoene's house you should bring beer that they would like as well.  I hate white wine but my mother in law only drinks white wine so when I bring wine to her house I have to bring two bottles.  You could do that as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 29, 2013, 03:56:44 pm
Quote from: imbecile on August 29, 2013, 03:33:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:17:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 02:15:07 pm
There are four of us, but none of us are alcoholics. So a sixer will probably suffice.  Also, one person just had a baby and is nursing, so likely not drinking anything at all.

Also, we are bringing all the food, so they'll likely supply some beer as well. And it won't be catered to our tastes based on past experience.


Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:08:39 pm

Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?

If you're bringing something to a friend's house, I find it a nice gesture to bring something you'd think they would like/enjoy.

Also, if there are four of you, you should be bringing more than one six pack, so bring one that you know they'd like and if you want to bring a sixer of something fancy for you and wife, then do it.

If you drink more than 1.5 beers you're considered an alcoholic?

I hope you're bringing some mashed potatoes to that party!

Interesting topic. 

When I go to someones house for a few beers, I usually bring the amount that I plan on drinking.    I'm not going to just carry a few bottles, so it's usually a sixer.  That would be the same if it were my wife and I heading over.  The thinking being,  you don't invite someone over and expect them to bring all the beer.  You have some of your own, just not enough for everyone so you say bring beer.  Then when you get there, you brought what you like, they have what they like.. you drink whatever, trying both and all is well; if they don't like your beer they're good because they have theirs and vice versa. 

Is that not right?

Depends on the situation I guess... I generally bring two six packs if it's for two people coming + other guests/hosts... but I don't think there's a right or wrong. Also, I generally drink more than 1.5 beers over an entire evening of hanging out with folks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 04:54:51 pm
just bring Blue Moon sixer, a Corona sixer; orange and lemon slices and everyone'll be happy ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 05:04:36 pm
lime not lemon, pardon me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 06:08:00 pm
That seems to be the way things go with us and several of our couple friends. Not that there is a "right" way.

I don't recall either party EVER bringing more than a six pack or three bombers. Nor do I ever recall the hosts not having more beer on hand to supplement.

In this case, one person is driving and one person is nursing. And I myself typically usually don't have more than two (especially if the abv is 7 or more), whether I'm the driver or not. (Unless it's a bottle share party, that's another story.)


Quote from: imbecile on August 29, 2013, 03:33:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:17:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 02:15:07 pm
There are four of us, but none of us are alcoholics. So a sixer will probably suffice.  Also, one person just had a baby and is nursing, so likely not drinking anything at all.

Also, we are bringing all the food, so they'll likely supply some beer as well. And it won't be catered to our tastes based on past experience.


Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:08:39 pm

Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?

If you're bringing something to a friend's house, I find it a nice gesture to bring something you'd think they would like/enjoy.

Also, if there are four of you, you should be bringing more than one six pack, so bring one that you know they'd like and if you want to bring a sixer of something fancy for you and wife, then do it.

If you drink more than 1.5 beers you're considered an alcoholic?

I hope you're bringing some mashed potatoes to that party!

Interesting topic. 

When I go to someones house for a few beers, I usually bring the amount that I plan on drinking.    I'm not going to just carry a few bottles, so it's usually a sixer.  That would be the same if it were my wife and I heading over.  The thinking being,  you don't invite someone over and expect them to bring all the beer.  You have some of your own, just not enough for everyone so you say bring beer.  Then when you get there, you brought what you like, they have what they like.. you drink whatever, trying both and all is well; if they don't like your beer they're good because they have theirs and vice versa. 

Is that not right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 09:17:17 pm
I made some black bean tostadas tonight and served with Lawson's Double Sunshine.


Can't think of a restaurant meal that would make me as food and drink happy as I am now. Guess I'll cap it off with a couple of squares of Noi Sirius dark chocolate. Yummmmm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 30, 2013, 10:26:55 am
Quote from: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 05:04:36 pm
lime not lemon, pardon me

how fucking dare you
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 30, 2013, 11:14:53 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 12:13:47 pm
Thanks, You might as well have said Mars.

 :'(
Quote from: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 12:09:48 pm
7th street spirit shop in Frederick had a couple cases as of yesterday

Shoppers food warehouse on Mars/Germantown, Md got TEN cases of the Truth in.......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 30, 2013, 11:25:59 am
I made homemade pizza last night (with Vace dough, see: Gastronomical Banter thread) and paired it up with a Gandhi Bot. Terrific.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 30, 2013, 11:35:17 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on August 30, 2013, 11:25:59 am
I made homemade pizza last night (with Vace dough, see: Gastronomical Banter thread) and paired it up with a Gandhi Bot. Terrific.

What kinda pizza?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 30, 2013, 12:35:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 30, 2013, 11:35:17 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on August 30, 2013, 11:25:59 am
I made homemade pizza last night (with Vace dough, see: Gastronomical Banter thread) and paired it up with a Gandhi Bot. Terrific.

What kinda pizza?

Nothing special. Just mozzarella, tomato sauce, and spinach. I'll be more adventurous next time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 30, 2013, 04:47:11 pm
If this beer is anywhere as near as good as OTWOA and is $11/six pack (what I paid at P Street Whole Foods), and is readily available at your local supermarket...it seems like that might spell trouble for DC Brau.

Quote from: Bagley on August 30, 2013, 11:14:53 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 12:13:47 pm
Thanks, You might as well have said Mars.

 :'(
Quote from: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 12:09:48 pm
7th street spirit shop in Frederick had a couple cases as of yesterday

Shoppers food warehouse on Mars/Germantown, Md got TEN cases of the Truth in.......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 30, 2013, 05:08:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 30, 2013, 04:47:11 pm
If this beer is anywhere as near as good as OTWOA and is $11/six pack (what I paid at P Street Whole Foods), and is readily available at your local supermarket...it seems like that might spell trouble for DC Brau.

Quote from: Bagley on August 30, 2013, 11:14:53 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 12:13:47 pm
Thanks, You might as well have said Mars.

 :'(
Quote from: Bagley on August 29, 2013, 12:09:48 pm
7th street spirit shop in Frederick had a couple cases as of yesterday

Shoppers food warehouse on Mars/Germantown, Md got TEN cases of the Truth in.......

i've had the truth. it's okay, nothing mind-blowing.  i put it up there with perpetual ipa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 30, 2013, 05:10:46 pm
excited to drink some heurlich lager tonight, the pre-prohibition lager the DC homebrewer researched and brewed with DC brau.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 02, 2013, 04:47:36 pm
My local Whole Foods is selling 64 oz growler refills of Raging Bitch for $23. WTF. I can get a six pack for $9.

In other Flying Dog news, I found The Truth to be pretty damn good, but agree with stevewizzle that it falls short of mindblowing. Still, at $11/6 pk, I'll be drinking it again. After the Heady runs out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on September 03, 2013, 02:15:01 pm
Quote from: imbecile on August 29, 2013, 03:33:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:17:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 02:15:07 pm
There are four of us, but none of us are alcoholics. So a sixer will probably suffice.  Also, one person just had a baby and is nursing, so likely not drinking anything at all.

Also, we are bringing all the food, so they'll likely supply some beer as well. And it won't be catered to our tastes based on past experience.


Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:08:39 pm

Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?

If you're bringing something to a friend's house, I find it a nice gesture to bring something you'd think they would like/enjoy.

Also, if there are four of you, you should be bringing more than one six pack, so bring one that you know they'd like and if you want to bring a sixer of something fancy for you and wife, then do it.

If you drink more than 1.5 beers you're considered an alcoholic?

I hope you're bringing some mashed potatoes to that party!

Interesting topic. 

When I go to someones house for a few beers, I usually bring the amount that I plan on drinking.    I'm not going to just carry a few bottles, so it's usually a sixer.  That would be the same if it were my wife and I heading over.  The thinking being,  you don't invite someone over and expect them to bring all the beer.  You have some of your own, just not enough for everyone so you say bring beer.  Then when you get there, you brought what you like, they have what they like.. you drink whatever, trying both and all is well; if they don't like your beer they're good because they have theirs and vice versa. 

Is that not right?

what gets me is when i have a "hey everyone, let's clean out my beer fridge" evening and people bring over beer. 

as for what i bring over to houses, usually deschutes (mirror pond) unless they know their beer, then i'm bringing Double IPAs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:04:06 pm
I see that Smoke and Barrel has OTWOA on draft, and at half price tonight, that means $4.50 for 13 oz draft. But not much interest here. Damn you, Heady Topper.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 04, 2013, 12:05:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:04:06 pm
I see that Smoke and Barrel has OTWOA on draft, and at half price tonight, that means $4.50 for 13 oz draft. But not much interest here. Damn you, Heady Topper.

Christ, it's usually $9 a draft there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on September 04, 2013, 12:22:10 pm
Quote from: Venerable Bede on September 03, 2013, 02:15:01 pm
Quote from: imbecile on August 29, 2013, 03:33:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:17:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 02:15:07 pm
There are four of us, but none of us are alcoholics. So a sixer will probably suffice.  Also, one person just had a baby and is nursing, so likely not drinking anything at all.

Also, we are bringing all the food, so they'll likely supply some beer as well. And it won't be catered to our tastes based on past experience.


Quote from: Yada on August 29, 2013, 02:08:39 pm

Quote from: James Ford on August 29, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Thanks guys. My wife just picked up a sixer of the Truth at P Street.

Now is that something i can bring over to a friends for snacks and beers? My wife says "DIPA's" aren't for everyone."

But what beer is? These friends brought a sixer of porters to our house last time. Good, but not our favorite. If they had brought Fat Tire or Brooklyn Lager, that totally wouldn't have been for everyone either. Everyone being my wife and I.

Should one have to tamper down your tastes if you're bringing over beer to a non-beer geek friends house?

If you're bringing something to a friend's house, I find it a nice gesture to bring something you'd think they would like/enjoy.

Also, if there are four of you, you should be bringing more than one six pack, so bring one that you know they'd like and if you want to bring a sixer of something fancy for you and wife, then do it.

If you drink more than 1.5 beers you're considered an alcoholic?

I hope you're bringing some mashed potatoes to that party!

Interesting topic. 

When I go to someones house for a few beers, I usually bring the amount that I plan on drinking.    I'm not going to just carry a few bottles, so it's usually a sixer.  That would be the same if it were my wife and I heading over.  The thinking being,  you don't invite someone over and expect them to bring all the beer.  You have some of your own, just not enough for everyone so you say bring beer.  Then when you get there, you brought what you like, they have what they like.. you drink whatever, trying both and all is well; if they don't like your beer they're good because they have theirs and vice versa. 

Is that not right?

what gets me is when i have a "hey everyone, let's clean out my beer fridge" evening and people bring over beer. 

as for what i bring over to houses, usually deschutes (mirror pond) unless they know their beer, then i'm bringing Double IPAs.

This thread has devolved to First World/Middle Class Problems.
I'd just bring the beer I like and drink it and enjoy the company.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/middle-class-problems (http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/middle-class-problems)
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/4/28/16/enhanced-buzz-8439-1367180399-5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:48:12 pm
That's what it is on the current draft list.

I remember when i got a whole growler of it at Whole Foods in Fairfax for about $9.

Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2013, 12:05:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:04:06 pm
I see that Smoke and Barrel has OTWOA on draft, and at half price tonight, that means $4.50 for 13 oz draft. But not much interest here. Damn you, Heady Topper.

Christ, it's usually $9 a draft there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 04, 2013, 12:53:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:48:12 pm
That's what it is on the current draft list.

I remember when i got a whole growler of it at Whole Foods in Fairfax for about $9.

Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2013, 12:05:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:04:06 pm
I see that Smoke and Barrel has OTWOA on draft, and at half price tonight, that means $4.50 for 13 oz draft. But not much interest here. Damn you, Heady Topper.

Christ, it's usually $9 a draft there?

it's typically $9 every time i see it on draft somewhere.

seems consistent with dc brau price gouging.  i doubt it's smoke and barrel price gouging, but maybe i'm wrong.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:55:09 pm
$4/12 oz draft at Whole Foods in Fairfax the last time i had one there.

Quote from: stevewizzle on September 04, 2013, 12:53:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:48:12 pm
That's what it is on the current draft list.

I remember when i got a whole growler of it at Whole Foods in Fairfax for about $9.

Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2013, 12:05:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:04:06 pm
I see that Smoke and Barrel has OTWOA on draft, and at half price tonight, that means $4.50 for 13 oz draft. But not much interest here. Damn you, Heady Topper.

Christ, it's usually $9 a draft there?

it's typically $9 every time i see it on draft somewhere.

seems consistent with dc brau price gouging.  i doubt it's smoke and barrel price gouging, but maybe i'm wrong.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 04, 2013, 12:57:31 pm
minus well be west virginia
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 04, 2013, 12:59:37 pm
but seriously, you can't compare whole foods to dc bars.  i'm sure they can either get by with making no profit, or even losing money, just so people come in the doors.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 01:03:52 pm
I can, and I will.  ;D

To me, the beer tastes the same at each venue.


Quote from: stevewizzle on September 04, 2013, 12:59:37 pm
but seriously, you can't compare whole foods to dc bars.  i'm sure they can either get by with making no profit, or even losing money, just so people come in the doors.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 04, 2013, 01:32:03 pm
I've only had it on draft in a bar once... and I was drinking it for free, but $9 seems outrageous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 04, 2013, 02:25:18 pm
the Alchemist just posted on the need/desire to expand production (summary: it ain't happening any time soon)

http://www.alchemistbeer.com/expand-brew-more/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 04, 2013, 02:33:54 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 04, 2013, 02:25:18 pm
the Alchemist just posted on the need/desire to expand production (summary: it ain't happening any time soon)

http://www.alchemistbeer.com/expand-brew-more/

I gotta say I respect that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 04, 2013, 02:58:07 pm
agreed.  he seems like such a cool dude, where the dweeb from hill farmstead seems like such an arrogant asshole.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 03:12:34 pm
I dunno, Shaun Hill seems like a good enough guy to me. When we pulled into the driveway, there he was chatting with a customer before then opened. And he participates in online forums and is a regular poster on beer advocate. His mom was super nice as well.

I've been to the Achemist twice and never saw John Kimmich.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 04, 2013, 03:42:21 pm
lol... go maryland! (AKA mars, apparently).  for those heading to b'more to catch the ravens:

(http://flyingdogales.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ravendog.jpg) 

Our Superbowl champions are kicking off their season with Maryland craft beer.

Once again, Flying Dog will be the only Maryland-brewed beer available in M&T Bank Stadium. A variety of our beers ? including Snake Dog IPA, Doggie Style Pale Ale, UnderDog Atlantic Lager, and Pearl Necklace Oyster Stout ? will be on draft at storefronts in sections 117 and 128.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 04, 2013, 04:02:26 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 03:12:34 pm
I dunno, Shaun Hill seems like a good enough guy to me. When we pulled into the driveway, there he was chatting with a customer before then opened. And he participates in online forums and is a regular poster on beer advocate. His mom was super nice as well.

I've been to the Achemist twice and never saw John Kimmich.

i haven't been there, so i should deflect to your better judgement.

but the stories i hear... they are just stupid. he seems like a stupid human being. you don't want people showing up at your farm for beer? distribute it elsewhere then. don't make people drive to you for it. but no, he runs his cash only brewery, and makes people drive to him, and then complains about it after the fact.  he just seems to be a hypocrite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 04, 2013, 05:22:30 pm
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18z5cphulbxg1png/ku-xlarge.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 05, 2013, 02:09:36 am
The Basics of Homebrewing
LivingSocial's 918 F Street ? Washington, DC

    Thursday, September 19 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Tuesday, September 24 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Thursday, October 3 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Tuesday, October 8 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Thursday, October 17 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM
    Tuesday, October 22 ? 6:00PM, 8:30PM

What you get

    - Homebrewing 101 Lesson
    - Tasting of Three Beers: DC Brau, 3 Stars & Flying Dog
    - Package of Hops & Basic Beer Recipe to Take Home
    - Hosted by Michael Tonsmiere, The Mad Fermentationist
    - Homebrewing Kits Available for Purchase

Your quest for delicious local craft beer is about to take you... home. Pay $29 with this offer from LivingSocial's 918 F Street and get the scoop on how to DIY your favorite draughts from homebrew guru Michael Tonsmiere, otherwise known as The Mad Fermentationist. A longtime at-home brewer, Michael will teach you about the basics of beer (you'll sample three different kinds), the fermentation process, troubleshooting and correcting flavors, and bottling. After learning the basics of hops, grain, yeast, and more, you can jump-start your own home brewery with a take-home package of hops and a recipe for different brew styles to try your hand at crafting -- or purchase a homebrewing kit to get started on your own crafty creations.

https://www.livingsocial.com/events/cities/1-washington-d-c/814286-the-basics-of-homebrewing

mike is a really nice guy and a good teacher.  i think this will be a great "homebrewing 101" class.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 05, 2013, 07:29:34 am
You used to be able to get a growler of OTWOA at the brewery for about $12 - then they realized they had lucked into a world class beer and started charging $20 or 25 for a growler

I started quite the flame war on BA when I pointed this out a while back  :o :P

Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:48:12 pm
That's what it is on the current draft list.

I remember when i got a whole growler of it at Whole Foods in Fairfax for about $9.

Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2013, 12:05:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2013, 12:04:06 pm
I see that Smoke and Barrel has OTWOA on draft, and at half price tonight, that means $4.50 for 13 oz draft. But not much interest here. Damn you, Heady Topper.

Christ, it's usually $9 a draft there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 05, 2013, 08:43:10 am
Quote from: brennser on September 05, 2013, 07:29:34 am
You used to be able to get a growler of OTWOA at the brewery for about $12 - then they realized they had lucked into a world class beer and started charging $20 or 25 for a growler

I started quite the flame war on BA when I pointed this out a while back  :o :P

bullseye.

i went to half price drafts last night at s&b, and it's just hilarious to see OTWOA and Enjoy By, both 9% beers, same style and all that, both are $9.  but one came from 5 miles down the road, and one came from 2,700 miles away.

i'll save the rest of my rant about dc brau for another day. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 05, 2013, 08:54:16 am
Finally drank an Oracle last night, another disappointing release from Bell's.

Now what do I do with the other five bottles?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 05, 2013, 10:15:26 am
The economies of scale are slightly different at Stone and DC Brau...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 05, 2013, 10:49:08 am
Quote from: fatskippy on September 05, 2013, 10:15:26 am
The economies of scale are slightly different at Stone and DC Brau...

stone: ships there beer 3,000 miles, makes charitable contributions, big employee payroll, has an enormous and immaculate brewery

dc brau: ships there beer 5 miles, makes no charitable contributions, <10 employees, has a shitty tasting room and a small brew space

dc brau is price gouging like crazy ($11 six packs across the city for their standard fare) and making up ground on their capital costs, which sure, it's good business, but they are fucking their locals by doing so.  it's just stupid that people pay the extra cost for these guys beer, just because it's a dc brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 05, 2013, 10:52:32 am
margins are razor-thin for small breweries.  super-hoppy beers like OTWOA are expensive to make.  i don't blame them for charging more for a popular product if they can.  on the upside it's motivated them to brew it more often, instead of being a seasonal. or one-off.

does anyone think that DC Brau is rolling in cash?

if it's not worth the price to you, don't buy it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 05, 2013, 11:00:44 am
i don't know, they may not be rolling in it, but i bet they are seeing profit margins like no other small-scale brewery, and it's because they take advantage of the market.  there's no other good local option.

i just don't support the idea of them saying, "well, all these other six-packs are $11, so let's make ours $11 too".  make it $9, because you didn't have to pay that extra $2 to transport it, and make it everybody's go-to because of the price, and the beer itself, not because there are no other >local< options.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 05, 2013, 11:06:20 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 05, 2013, 10:52:32 am
if it's not worth the price to you, don't buy it.

i still buy em at the bar, just not retail stores. i'll still support them, and wish them the best. i just don't agree with their business model, that's all.

i realize i'm sounding very much like an old cranky fart in this thread as of late.  but all these brewers bitching about "oh i hate all these people coming to my brewery" and breweries taking advantage of a booming local market... to me, it's all just a giant fuck you to the consumer, and the consumer is what keeps them doing what they love to do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 05, 2013, 11:06:51 am
Stone produced 177K barrels of beer last year, DC Brau produced 5K barrels. It is a clownshoe comparison and Enjoy By is hardly a great deal at $9/22 oz bomber or the equivalent of over $29 for a standard 6 pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 05, 2013, 11:27:52 am
http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/dc-brau-corruption-pricing.105088/

good discourse of the issue i speak to.  seems like i may be off-base on a few of my presumptions.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 06, 2013, 08:13:06 am
You could always bring one or two of them to a 9:30 bottle share.

Quote from: Yada on September 05, 2013, 08:54:16 am
Finally drank an Oracle last night, another disappointing release from Bell's.

Now what do I do with the other five bottles?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 06, 2013, 08:16:47 am
you had to know it was only a matter of time before a feature film was based on the life of craft brewery employees, right?

http://flavorwire.com/411008/flavorwire-interview-drinking-buddies-director-joe-swanberg-on-improv-craft-beer-and-the-real-chicago
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 06, 2013, 09:01:47 am
anyone gonna hit up any of the Goose Island tastings next week - King Henry!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 06, 2013, 09:35:17 am
FUCK YES.

i'll either be at CK wednesday, or MP on thursday. or both.  fuck it, both.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 06, 2013, 04:50:29 pm
Is this the beer that will knock Heady from its #1 ranking?

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23222/78820

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 06, 2013, 06:12:18 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 06, 2013, 04:50:29 pm
Is this the beer that will knock Heady from its #1 ranking?

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23222/78820


they made only 300 bottles this year - they might as well sell it on mars too.  i believe that sound in the distance is the hype machine revving its engine...

i mean, it sounds like a superlative beer, but this will likely become the next holy grail of beer snobbery. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 06, 2013, 06:25:30 pm
Local beer meets heavy metal at Port City?s Metal Night
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2013/09/05/local-beer-meets-heavy-metal-at-port-citys-metal-night/

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/files/2013/09/heavymetalnightiv-300x225.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 06, 2013, 08:31:34 pm
King Henry, some variant of Bourbon County, and some variant of Matilda all on draft at Whole Foods Fairfax tomorrow.

I'd definitely hit that up, but already have a beer event to go to tomorrow.  ;D And won't have time to get out there and get a growler, though they will be having those beers for growler sale in addtion to single servings.


Quote from: brennser on September 06, 2013, 09:01:47 am
anyone gonna hit up any of the Goose Island tastings next week - King Henry!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 06, 2013, 11:34:48 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 06, 2013, 08:31:34 pm
I'd definitely hit that up

(...)

won't have time to get out there and get a growler,

that doesn't make sense to me... if you're definitely going to hit that up, why not grab a growler while you're there?  and, more importantly, why don't you grab a growler of king henry for me?!?  (no, seriously, grab a growler for me)

that WF of yours sure does get some decent tap offerings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on September 07, 2013, 04:11:13 pm
Founders All Day IPA.  Bucks the current trend of over-hoppy, 8%+ IPAs.  Two thumbs up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 07, 2013, 11:10:54 pm
water is pretty tasty too

Quote from: ggw on September 07, 2013, 04:11:13 pm
Founders All Day IPA.  Bucks the current trend of over-hoppy, 8%+ IPAs.  Two thumbs up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 08, 2013, 08:48:28 am
Apologies for my inebriated snarkiness.

With their All-Day IPA (4.7%), Centennial (7.5%), Double Trouble (9.4%), and Devil Dancer (12%), Founders does seem to be trying the cover all the IPA bases.

Quote from: James Ford on September 07, 2013, 11:10:54 pm
water is pretty tasty too

Quote from: ggw on September 07, 2013, 04:11:13 pm
Founders All Day IPA.  Bucks the current trend of over-hoppy, 8%+ IPAs.  Two thumbs up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 08, 2013, 11:37:32 am
what an alcoholic
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on September 08, 2013, 12:23:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 08, 2013, 08:48:28 am
Apologies for my inebriated snarkiness.


Is there really any difference between your inebriated snarkiness and your sober snarkiness?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 08, 2013, 03:32:42 pm
I blame this message board for my state last night.  ;)

Quote from: fatskippy on September 08, 2013, 11:37:32 am
what an alcoholic
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 08, 2013, 03:33:16 pm
Probably none.

Quote from: ggw on September 08, 2013, 12:23:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 08, 2013, 08:48:28 am
Apologies for my inebriated snarkiness.


Is there really any difference between your inebriated snarkiness and your sober snarkiness?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on September 08, 2013, 05:45:38 pm
I've never gone to zwanze day or been to church key.  Trying to figure out when to go, what to expect, cost, and any other details.  Any advice on when to try to avoid the rush and how best get the full experience is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 08, 2013, 07:52:49 pm
stay at home.  drink good beer.  dance around the place in your underpants.  listen to killer music.  drink more good beer.  invite friends over.  impress.  and no depress, from the drive home dui blues.  oh wait a minute . . . was i speaking out loud again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 08, 2013, 10:01:18 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on September 08, 2013, 05:45:38 pm
I've never gone to zwanze day or been to church key.  Trying to figure out when to go, what to expect, cost, and any other details.  Any advice on when to try to avoid the rush and how best get the full experience is greatly appreciated.

get there early.  i've never been, but i'd expect crowds to be manageable early on.  cost will depend on how much you want to drink.  you can spend $4 on a few tasters, or you can go nuts, get your drink on, and hope that you get out of there with only a $40 bill.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 09, 2013, 09:25:09 am
Quote from: medeski7 on September 08, 2013, 05:45:38 pm
I've never gone to zwanze day or been to church key.  Trying to figure out when to go, what to expect, cost, and any other details.  Any advice on when to try to avoid the rush and how best get the full experience is greatly appreciated.

Last year you needed to be there before they opened at about 11:45 to get a seat at the bar, a bit after 12 to get one of the last tables. It will probably be even more crowded this year. You need to preorder your glass of Zwanze when you get there. Churchkey gets packed regularly, but this was the worst I'd seen it. I will never go back for Zwanze Day unless they sell limited tickets beforehand, its not worth it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 09, 2013, 02:54:57 pm
see . . . my big fat mouth, told you so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: smakawhat on September 09, 2013, 04:32:56 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on September 08, 2013, 05:45:38 pm
I've never gone to zwanze day or been to church key.  Trying to figure out when to go, what to expect, cost, and any other details.  Any advice on when to try to avoid the rush and how best get the full experience is greatly appreciated.

I've been twice, it's getting crazy every year.

Show up before the place opens, trust me...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 10, 2013, 09:03:02 am
Wow, smakawhat, prolific beer reviewer from beer advocate, graces us with his presence.

Jim Koch is a billionaire:

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/sam-adams-maker-is-billionaire-on-craft-beer-surge-Okz86qrDQd2ZNbrJhS6_8A.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 10, 2013, 09:43:37 am
;D
 
Quote from: James Ford on September 08, 2013, 03:32:42 pm
I blame this message board for my state last night.  ;)

Quote from: fatskippy on September 08, 2013, 11:37:32 am
what an alcoholic
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 10, 2013, 08:01:11 pm
Sitting here in Boston, just ran the Charles, enjoying an Ithica Flower Power :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on September 10, 2013, 10:49:07 pm
I'm bailing on zwanze day.  Too much to do that morning and I called ckdc to hear no reserved space of any kind.  I'm sure the beer is great, but that's just too much hassle on an already busy day.

On another note I started looking into Milkhouse Brewery.  It's Maryland's first farm brewery.  They now have five beers and do growlers.  I'm thinking o of checking it out.  I love the farm to table beer idea.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 11, 2013, 10:56:48 am
Just got back from Bavaria and the beer as you would expect was absolutely amazing.  Drinking beer in 1 liter servings with a pretzel under the trees outside can't be beat.  Highlights would be in Munchen the Augistiner Beer Garden and drinking the Nockherberger beer that is only available at the beer hall at the Paulaner Brewery.  Or doing a  little hike up a mountain and there being 3 beer gardens at the top.  Or going to a castle and there being 4 places to get a draft.  Helles, Dunkel, or Weis Beir all tasty.  I went to the Ettal Monastry and had some brews as well.  The beer in Salzburg weren't as good. Stiegl and Gosser not as tasty.  Hacker Pschor's Helles wasn't the best.  But their Dunkel is tasty.  Everything else was outstanding. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 11, 2013, 04:20:06 pm
Church key as of 420 is not packed and tables are available.  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 11, 2013, 04:26:07 pm
 India pale lagers, craft beer?s category straddlers  (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/india-pale-lagers-craft-beers-category-stragglers/2013/09/09/183a732a-14df-11e3-a100-66fa8fd9a50c_story.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 11, 2013, 06:35:08 pm
Max's German beer fest is sept. 20 to 22.  60 German beers on draft.  German food.  I will be there
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 11, 2013, 06:52:04 pm
Cambridge tonight! Bukowski's / Atwoods with Morphine on stage at 10!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 11, 2013, 07:18:51 pm
Quote from: grateful on September 11, 2013, 06:52:04 pm
Cambridge tonight! Bukowski's / Atwoods with Morphine on stage at 10!

that's awesome. any chance you're going over to CBC?  lord hobo?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 11, 2013, 08:19:04 pm
Those are tomorrow :) !!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 12, 2013, 04:56:33 pm
walky, not sure what part of buttfuck VA you live in, but DC Brau is doing something here today.

http://www.awshuckscountrystores.com/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 12, 2013, 08:42:54 pm
Lord Hobo is hoppin' tonight!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 13, 2013, 10:36:20 am
Managed to hit up both Churckey and Meridien Pint the last two nights for the GI tastings. All the beers were excellent, the guys from GI were cool to chat to - glad I could make it.

Highlights were the 2010 Madame Rose, the 2011 BCBS coffee and the King Henry - had several tastes of Rare - it was very good but seemed like it might have already peaked
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 13, 2013, 11:09:51 am
did you try the matilda lambicus?  based on the name, i would expect it to be a funkier/barnyard'ier/etc version of matilda.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 13, 2013, 11:20:56 am
Online reviews were rather tepid and paled in comparison to Sofie Paradisi...(which I had and thought was good)

Quote from: sweetcell on September 13, 2013, 11:09:51 am
did you try the matilda lambicus?  based on the name, i would expect it to be a funkier/barnyard'ier/etc version of matilda.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 13, 2013, 11:21:43 am
Did someone say best beer from Germany?


Klosterbrauerei Andechs DC Debut at ChurchKey




ChurchKey will tap the first kegs of Klosterbrauerei Andechs ever poured in Washington, DC.  From an email:


This amazing Benedictine Monastic Brewery has long produced some of the finest, and rarest, German ales and lagers, developing a cult-following of beer hunters who would have to travel to Bavaria to taste their wares. Do not miss the opportunity to check out some of the most heralded beers in the world this Friday night, from an authentic Monastic brewery that's been brewing since 1455!

There is no admission charge for this event and all Andechser drafts and bottles will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. pours.

The Andechser Beer List:
?Andechser Doppelbock Dunkel (Draft)
?Andechser Dunkles Weissbier (Draft)
?Andechser Vollbier Hell (Draft)
?Andechser Weissbier Hefetrüb (Bottle)


Neighborhood:


District of Columbia

Logan Circle.


Address:




1337 14th St NW

  --.
United States.

Date:


Friday, September 13, 2013 - 6:00pm to 9:00pm..
- See more at: http://www.dcbeer.com/event/klosterbrauerei-andechs-dc-debut-churchkey#sthash.RfuLDVYF.dpuf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 13, 2013, 12:20:33 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 13, 2013, 10:36:20 am
Managed to hit up both Churckey and Meridien Pint the last two nights for the GI tastings. All the beers were excellent, the guys from GI were cool to chat to - glad I could make it.

Highlights were the 2010 Madame Rose, the 2011 BCBS coffee and the King Henry - had several tastes of Rare - it was very good but seemed like it might have already peaked

I have to say my favorite was the vanilla.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 13, 2013, 12:46:17 pm
I also had the new Atlas brewworks Rowdy Rye and NSFW and thought both were solid
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 13, 2013, 01:13:48 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 13, 2013, 12:46:17 pm
I also had the new Atlas brewworks Rowdy Rye and NSFW and thought both were solid

I had the NSFW and agree, killer beverage.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 13, 2013, 01:28:07 pm
Do they have any plans to bottle/can that?

Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2013, 01:13:48 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 13, 2013, 12:46:17 pm
I also had the new Atlas brewworks Rowdy Rye and NSFW and thought both were solid

I had the NSFW and agree, killer beverage.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 13, 2013, 01:59:05 pm
you guys should warn us before posting about NSFW beer.  some people are reading this at work, you know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 13, 2013, 02:14:21 pm
After drinking beer for 14 days straight I did not have a beer yesterday.  A new streak will start tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 13, 2013, 05:10:56 pm
Quote from: atomic on September 13, 2013, 02:14:21 pm
After drinking beer for 14 days straight I did not have a beer yesterday.  A new streak will start tonight.

OK.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 13, 2013, 05:13:48 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 13, 2013, 11:20:56 am
Online reviews were rather tepid and paled in comparison to Sofie Paradisi...(which I had and thought was good)

Quote from: sweetcell on September 13, 2013, 11:09:51 am
did you try the matilda lambicus?  based on the name, i would expect it to be a funkier/barnyard'ier/etc version of matilda.

as an expert on this subject (i.e., i've had both), sofie paradisi was incredible, and a huge leap from sofie regular, and matilda lambicus, as james ford has so eliquently put it, was rather ordinary.  high drinkability, but none of the characteristics that you describe really pop out.  however, i would drink 100 of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 15, 2013, 08:02:46 pm
Uhh what.


http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/for/4055115052.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 15, 2013, 08:49:12 pm
Only four months old!

Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2013, 08:02:46 pm
Uhh what.


http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/for/4055115052.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 15, 2013, 10:44:26 pm
Had some Köstritzer Schwarzbier while watching beer fest.  It was so good (The beer not the movie)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 07:52:01 am
Why would they come to American when they could just go to Germany? What the heck is the Esquire Channel anyway? Any of y'all going to watch this show?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOF1KHN9wrg&list=TLyaalIujOEEE
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 16, 2013, 08:12:26 am
Quote from: smakawhat on September 09, 2013, 04:32:56 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on September 08, 2013, 05:45:38 pm
I've never gone to zwanze day or been to church key.  Trying to figure out when to go, what to expect, cost, and any other details.  Any advice on when to try to avoid the rush and how best get the full experience is greatly appreciated.

I've been twice, it's getting crazy every year.

Show up before the place opens, trust me...

i showed up at 130pm and they still had almost everything. 

the beers... man, i don't know. i don't know why people lose their shit for cantillon. i thought their kreik was fantastic, zwanze good, and the iris grand cru average. i'm not sure i'd ever seek them out, but if i saw them on the shelf i'd snag a bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 08:24:52 am
I think we threw away half a glass of Cantillon Kriek when we were in Bruges. Not sure if it was the beer or us being beered out, or a combination of both. Count me as not a fan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 16, 2013, 10:44:49 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 15, 2013, 08:49:12 pm
Only four months old!

Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2013, 08:02:46 pm
Uhh what.


http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/for/4055115052.html

yeah, well, i have some 8 month old Pliny's but those are $200.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 16, 2013, 10:47:58 am
Confession: I drank a Hopslam from 2012 a few weeks ago and it didn't taste all that bad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 16, 2013, 10:51:37 am
confession . . . people obsessed with rare beers, are idiots.  breweries that control peoples minds with their limited release bullshit, can suck my always releasing cock.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 16, 2013, 10:54:25 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 16, 2013, 10:51:37 am
confession . . . people obsessed with rare beers, are idiots.  breweries that control peoples minds with their limited release bullshit, can suck my always releasing cock.

I agree with you on that.  Two tiny beers aren't even going to get me buzzed. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 16, 2013, 10:58:44 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 16, 2013, 10:51:37 am
confession . . . people obsessed with rare beers, are idiots.  breweries that control peoples minds with their limited release bullshit, can suck my always releasing cock.

People that can't get rare beers tend to not enjoy them.  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 16, 2013, 10:59:05 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 10:47:58 am
Confession: I drank a Hopslam from 2012 a few weeks ago and it didn't taste all that bad.

it won't be bad, it just won't be the same beer.  the hops will have faded a lot and since this beer is all about the hops...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:01:15 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 10:58:44 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 16, 2013, 10:51:37 am
confession . . . people obsessed with rare beers, are idiots.  breweries that control peoples minds with their limited release bullshit, can suck my always releasing cock.

People that can't get rare beers tend to not enjoy them.  :o

Doesn't seem very hard to get. Go on craigslist search for them. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 16, 2013, 11:10:12 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 10:58:44 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 16, 2013, 10:51:37 am
confession . . . people obsessed with rare beers, are idiots.  breweries that control peoples minds with their limited release bullshit, can suck my always releasing cock.

People that can't get rare beers tend to not enjoy them.  :o

people that think that . . . are small minded.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 16, 2013, 11:19:02 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 16, 2013, 11:10:12 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 10:58:44 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 16, 2013, 10:51:37 am
confession . . . people obsessed with rare beers, are idiots.  breweries that control peoples minds with their limited release bullshit, can suck my always releasing cock.

People that can't get rare beers tend to not enjoy them.  :o

people that think that . . . are small minded.

^^is drinking a fat tire^^
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 16, 2013, 11:30:40 am
omg . . . fat tire is not beer.  that brewery is not real.  it is owned by coors and has been fooling people all these years.  i am so fucking sick of peoples obsession with fat fucking tire.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 16, 2013, 11:31:56 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 16, 2013, 11:30:40 am
omg . . . fat tire is not beer.  that brewery is not real.  it is owned by coors and has been fooling people all these years.  i am so fucking sick of peoples obsession with fat fucking tire.

yeah that's definitely not accurate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 16, 2013, 11:33:18 am
http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-belgium-brewing-becomes-100-employee-owned-company.61880/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:35:51 am
Nothing wrong with drinking Fat Tire.  Of the 15 beers the bar next to my office has on tap it is my favorite. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 16, 2013, 11:36:00 am
that is what coors wants you to believe.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 16, 2013, 11:39:14 am
Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:35:51 am
Nothing wrong with drinking Fat Tire.  Of the 15 beers the bar next to my office has on tap it is my favorite. 

^^not surprised by this post^^
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 16, 2013, 11:39:25 am
coors knows, this generation will believe anything.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:45:20 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 11:39:14 am
Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:35:51 am
Nothing wrong with drinking Fat Tire.  Of the 15 beers the bar next to my office has on tap it is my favorite. 

^^not surprised by this post^^

Here is the list.  I used to like Dogfish 60 Minute but I am so over IPA's.  Of this list if I am going to have 4 or 5 beers Fat Tire is the one for me:

Miller Lite
Coors Light
National Bohemian
Yuenging Lager
Blue Moon
Blue Moon Amber
Saranace BlueBerry Blonde Ale
Heavy Seas Loose Canoon
Guiness
Fat Tire
DogFish Head 60 Minute IPA
Killians
Sierra Nevada
Stella Artois
Sam Adams
Sam Adams Seasonal
Leinenkugels
Flying Dog Seasonal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 16, 2013, 11:49:22 am
your troll ability . . . is owned by coors, too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 11:51:21 am
Wow, that's not a  bar taplist. That's the list of beers for sale at my local Giant grocery store.

Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:45:20 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 11:39:14 am
Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:35:51 am
Nothing wrong with drinking Fat Tire.  Of the 15 beers the bar next to my office has on tap it is my favorite. 

^^not surprised by this post^^

Here is the list.  I used to like Dogfish 60 Minute but I am so over IPA's.  Of this list if I am going to have 4 or 5 beers Fat Tire is the one for me:

Miller Lite
Coors Light
National Bohemian
Yuenging Lager
Blue Moon
Blue Moon Amber
Saranace BlueBerry Blonde Ale
Heavy Seas Loose Canoon
Guiness
Fat Tire
DogFish Head 60 Minute IPA
Killians
Sierra Nevada
Stella Artois
Sam Adams
Sam Adams Seasonal
Leinenkugels
Flying Dog Seasonal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:54:39 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 11:51:21 am
Wow, that's not a  bar taplist. That's the list of beers for sale at my local Giant grocery store.

Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:45:20 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 11:39:14 am
Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:35:51 am
Nothing wrong with drinking Fat Tire.  Of the 15 beers the bar next to my office has on tap it is my favorite. 

^^not surprised by this post^^

Here is the list.  I used to like Dogfish 60 Minute but I am so over IPA's.  Of this list if I am going to have 4 or 5 beers Fat Tire is the one for me:

Miller Lite
Coors Light
National Bohemian
Yuenging Lager
Blue Moon
Blue Moon Amber
Saranace BlueBerry Blonde Ale
Heavy Seas Loose Canoon
Guiness
Fat Tire
DogFish Head 60 Minute IPA
Killians
Sierra Nevada
Stella Artois
Sam Adams
Sam Adams Seasonal
Leinenkugels
Flying Dog Seasonal

It is a pretty big list.  Compared to Bavaria where you are limited to a Helles, a Dunkel, A weis and perhaps maybe a weiss dunkel...I think they do carry 312 by Goose Island now as well.  I drink that too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 11:56:54 am
Try the New Belgium Trippel and New Belgium Abbey Ale. Both very good value priced Belgian beers. Also, some of their special releases are pretty good.

And no, New Belgium is not Coors owned.

Quote from: walkonby on September 16, 2013, 11:30:40 am
omg . . . fat tire is not beer.  that brewery is not real.  it is owned by coors and has been fooling people all these years.  i am so fucking sick of peoples obsession with fat fucking tire.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 11:58:02 am
It's all about quality, not quantity.

Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:54:39 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 11:51:21 am
Wow, that's not a  bar taplist. That's the list of beers for sale at my local Giant grocery store.

Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:45:20 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 11:39:14 am
Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:35:51 am
Nothing wrong with drinking Fat Tire.  Of the 15 beers the bar next to my office has on tap it is my favorite. 

^^not surprised by this post^^

Here is the list.  I used to like Dogfish 60 Minute but I am so over IPA's.  Of this list if I am going to have 4 or 5 beers Fat Tire is the one for me:

Miller Lite
Coors Light
National Bohemian
Yuenging Lager
Blue Moon
Blue Moon Amber
Saranace BlueBerry Blonde Ale
Heavy Seas Loose Canoon
Guiness
Fat Tire
DogFish Head 60 Minute IPA
Killians
Sierra Nevada
Stella Artois
Sam Adams
Sam Adams Seasonal
Leinenkugels
Flying Dog Seasonal

It is a pretty big list.  Compared to Bavaria where you are limited to a Helles, a Dunkel, A weis and perhaps maybe a weiss dunkel...I think they do carry 312 by Goose Island now as well.  I drink that too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 16, 2013, 12:01:44 pm
who started the coors rumour, i wonder.  its been there for years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 16, 2013, 12:09:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 11:58:02 am
It's all about quality, not quantity.

Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:54:39 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 11:51:21 am
Wow, that's not a  bar taplist. That's the list of beers for sale at my local Giant grocery store.

Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:45:20 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 11:39:14 am
Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:35:51 am
Nothing wrong with drinking Fat Tire.  Of the 15 beers the bar next to my office has on tap it is my favorite. 

^^not surprised by this post^^

Here is the list.  I used to like Dogfish 60 Minute but I am so over IPA's.  Of this list if I am going to have 4 or 5 beers Fat Tire is the one for me:

Miller Lite
Coors Light
National Bohemian
Yuenging Lager
Blue Moon
Blue Moon Amber
Saranace BlueBerry Blonde Ale
Heavy Seas Loose Canoon
Guiness
Fat Tire
DogFish Head 60 Minute IPA
Killians
Sierra Nevada
Stella Artois
Sam Adams
Sam Adams Seasonal
Leinenkugels
Flying Dog Seasonal

It is a pretty big list.  Compared to Bavaria where you are limited to a Helles, a Dunkel, A weis and perhaps maybe a weiss dunkel...I think they do carry 312 by Goose Island now as well.  I drink that too.

THat is true...unfortunately I don't work next to Brewer's Art.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 12:18:34 pm
It's probably good for your work performance that you don't.  :D

Very little good draft beer to be had around my office as well. Which is a good thing.

Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 12:09:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 11:58:02 am
It's all about quality, not quantity.

Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:54:39 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 16, 2013, 11:51:21 am
Wow, that's not a  bar taplist. That's the list of beers for sale at my local Giant grocery store.

Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:45:20 am
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2013, 11:39:14 am
Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:35:51 am
Nothing wrong with drinking Fat Tire.  Of the 15 beers the bar next to my office has on tap it is my favorite. 

^^not surprised by this post^^

Here is the list.  I used to like Dogfish 60 Minute but I am so over IPA's.  Of this list if I am going to have 4 or 5 beers Fat Tire is the one for me:

Miller Lite
Coors Light
National Bohemian
Yuenging Lager
Blue Moon
Blue Moon Amber
Saranace BlueBerry Blonde Ale
Heavy Seas Loose Canoon
Guiness
Fat Tire
DogFish Head 60 Minute IPA
Killians
Sierra Nevada
Stella Artois
Sam Adams
Sam Adams Seasonal
Leinenkugels
Flying Dog Seasonal

It is a pretty big list.  Compared to Bavaria where you are limited to a Helles, a Dunkel, A weis and perhaps maybe a weiss dunkel...I think they do carry 312 by Goose Island now as well.  I drink that too.

THat is true...unfortunately I don't work next to Brewer's Art.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 16, 2013, 02:36:45 pm
Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:45:20 am

Here is the list.  I used to like Dogfish 60 Minute but I am so over IPA's.  Of this list if I am going to have 4 or 5 beers Fat Tire is the one for me:


Ahhh, I think I see the problem here.  You need to stop going to that bar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 16, 2013, 03:51:49 pm
Quote from: grateful on September 16, 2013, 02:36:45 pm
Quote from: atomic on September 16, 2013, 11:45:20 am

Here is the list.  I used to like Dogfish 60 Minute but I am so over IPA's.  Of this list if I am going to have 4 or 5 beers Fat Tire is the one for me:


Ahhh, I think I see the problem here.  You need to stop going to that bar.

Why?  It is a fun place.  And it is right next door to my office.  I watched all the Ravens playoff games there last season.  And if I drink too much I can always walk home.  Plus when there are going away happy hours at work they are always held there. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 17, 2013, 03:29:58 pm
Yes, please. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_wfMK7dko)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on September 17, 2013, 04:10:19 pm
Left Hand survives the flood, sort of http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/2013/09/flooding_at_left_hand_brewing.php (http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/2013/09/flooding_at_left_hand_brewing.php)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 17, 2013, 04:16:44 pm
suicide pushers

now thats a great name for a new, only available once a year, beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2013, 10:57:20 am
wet hop fans... this will be available next week. OH YES.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/13014/53267

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 11:20:05 am
Quote from: Yada on September 19, 2013, 10:57:20 am
wet hop fans... this will be available next week. OH YES.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/13014/53267



surly doesn't distribute to DC... does it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on September 19, 2013, 11:20:21 am
I recently had a Stone Enjoy By that was a few days past its "expiration date". Still tasted great though. Don't shun me!  :-\
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 11:21:41 am
went to pizza p last night, but missed the bourbon-aged corruption. bummer! had to drink an OTWOA instead.  also had an ol fuck art-lets dance, which really was fucking good.  topped the night off by drinking a pliny at home.  tough day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: chaz on September 19, 2013, 11:26:24 am
(http://s11.postimg.org/sxc3dpe1v/9353.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2013, 11:32:33 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 11:20:05 am
Quote from: Yada on September 19, 2013, 10:57:20 am
wet hop fans... this will be available next week. OH YES.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/13014/53267



surly doesn't distribute to DC... does it?

Negative, but I get it shipped to me.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 11:36:08 am
Quote from: Yada on September 19, 2013, 11:32:33 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 11:20:05 am
Quote from: Yada on September 19, 2013, 10:57:20 am
wet hop fans... this will be available next week. OH YES.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/13014/53267



surly doesn't distribute to DC... does it?

Negative, but I get it shipped to me.  ;D

jerk.

last month, conn liquors in dupont had surly in. wasn't terribly priced, either. that was pretty cool, maybe they get more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2013, 11:47:45 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 11:36:08 am
Quote from: Yada on September 19, 2013, 11:32:33 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 11:20:05 am
Quote from: Yada on September 19, 2013, 10:57:20 am
wet hop fans... this will be available next week. OH YES.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/13014/53267



surly doesn't distribute to DC... does it?

Negative, but I get it shipped to me.  ;D

jerk.

last month, conn liquors in dupont had surly in. wasn't terribly priced, either. that was pretty cool, maybe they get more.

I popped into conn liquors for the first time in a year two weeks ago and he said they no longer get Pliny (which was over priced in there anyway), but I was going to buy a bottle that evening if they had it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 12:01:30 pm
o st liquors across from pizza p has it.  $29.99 - no joke.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2013, 12:49:22 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 12:01:30 pm
o st liquors across from pizza p has it.  $29.99 - no joke.

Pffffffffffft.... I'd maybe pay half that. The last time I bought Pliny at Conn Liquors was last summer and I think it was $11.99
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 01:25:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 19, 2013, 12:49:22 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 19, 2013, 12:01:30 pm
o st liquors across from pizza p has it.  $29.99 - no joke.

Pffffffffffft.... I'd maybe pay half that. The last time I bought Pliny at Conn Liquors was last summer and I think it was $11.99

yah, all their prices there are high, but that ... that's just ridiculous.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2013, 03:13:59 pm
i saw Pliny at Conn Liquors a while back, it was either $20 or $30... and it was several months old.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2013, 03:41:47 pm
vermont beer porn: http://www.vpt.org/show/20158/0
- live webcast tonight at 7 pm
- 4 videos at "2013 Brewer Stories"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ardamus on September 19, 2013, 08:26:36 pm
Who's going to the Shirlington Beer Fest? That's where I'm spending my birthday weekend at.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 19, 2013, 09:19:49 pm
I think you are referring to the Cap City Oktoberfest in Shirlington (?)

Nope, not going.

Quote from: Ardamus on September 19, 2013, 08:26:36 pm
Who's going to the Shirlington Beer Fest? That's where I'm spending my birthday weekend at.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2013, 03:52:46 pm
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/09/beer-porn-the-alchemist-cannery/279812/?fb_action_ids=10151859185437528&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210151859185437528%22%3A245217898962498%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151859185437528%22%3A%22og.recommends%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 23, 2013, 08:32:43 am
Had half of a Westvleteren 8 last night. Soooo good. Now the anticipation builds until I crack the Westy 12.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 10:08:26 am
I'm not a fan of the style, nor am I really a fan of Bell's, but this went very well with the sweet potato chili I made last night.

(http://beveragebaron.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/bells_brown_ale.jpg?w=300&h=300)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 25, 2013, 10:27:30 am
you should really tilt the glass a little more when pouring
is that a 4 finger head?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 25, 2013, 10:35:04 am
So, uh, at the risk of getting stuff thrown at me for this beer being lame (as though all beer isn't lame white-trash crap by default  ::)), I need to know if Founders Coffee Stout is available yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 10:39:22 am
Look for it in October. I know I will be. It's definitely not lame.

What is lame is that Founders announced they were moving it from four packs to six packs and keeping it at the same price. Then months later they announced they had changed their minds on that decision.


Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 25, 2013, 10:35:04 am
So, uh, at the risk of getting stuff thrown at me for this beer being lame (as though all beer isn't lame white-trash crap by default  ::)), I need to know if Founders Coffee Stout is available yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 25, 2013, 12:27:56 pm
nothing from Founders is lame.  i'm not the biggest fan of the All Day IPA, but everything else in their line-up varies from solid to superlative.

FYI, their coffee stout is called "Breakfast Stout" (made with coffee and oatmeal... and chocolate).

even when it comes to lowly beer, you have impeccable taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 12:50:01 pm
Not my picture.

I did tilt the glass and didn't get any head last night.

Maybe I should have shared the glass instead.


Quote from: Sidehatch on September 25, 2013, 10:27:30 am
you should really tilt the glass a little more when pouring
is that a 4 finger head?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 25, 2013, 12:56:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 12:50:01 pm
and didn't get any head last night.

Story of your life.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 25, 2013, 01:12:26 pm
Quote from: atomic on September 25, 2013, 12:56:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 12:50:01 pm
and didn't get any head last night.

Story of your life.

POTW
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 01:18:30 pm
I totally set you guys up with that joke. Hell, I practically gave you the punchline. And that's the best you can do? Talk about lame. You probably both watch the New Girl and drink Hello Kitty Beer.


Quote from: grateful on September 25, 2013, 01:12:26 pm
Quote from: atomic on September 25, 2013, 12:56:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 12:50:01 pm
and didn't get any head last night.

Story of your life.

POTW
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 25, 2013, 01:32:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 01:18:30 pm
I totally set you guys up with that joke. Hell, I practically gave you the punchline. And that's the best you can do? Talk about lame. You probably both watch the New Girl and drink Hello Kitty Beer.


Quote from: grateful on September 25, 2013, 01:12:26 pm
Quote from: atomic on September 25, 2013, 12:56:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 12:50:01 pm
and didn't get any head last night.

Story of your life.

POTW

Hello Kitty has a beer? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 25, 2013, 01:36:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 25, 2013, 12:27:56 pm
even when it comes to lowly beer, you have impeccable taste.
May want to rethink that. If forced to drink beer, I go: do you have anything by Founders, if not, do you have anything by Bell's, if not, do you have an apple cider, if not, I will take a Blue Moon please.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 01:41:07 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/23/hello-kitty-beer_n_3976490.html

"Hello Kitty Beer Gets Plenty of Buzz"


Yeah, but with that abv it no doubt gives very little buzz.


Quote from: atomic on September 25, 2013, 01:32:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 01:18:30 pm
I totally set you guys up with that joke. Hell, I practically gave you the punchline. And that's the best you can do? Talk about lame. You probably both watch the New Girl and drink Hello Kitty Beer.


Quote from: grateful on September 25, 2013, 01:12:26 pm
Quote from: atomic on September 25, 2013, 12:56:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 12:50:01 pm
and didn't get any head last night.

Story of your life.

POTW

Hello Kitty has a beer? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2013, 01:42:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 25, 2013, 01:36:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 25, 2013, 12:27:56 pm
even when it comes to lowly beer, you have impeccable taste.
May want to rethink that. If forced to drink beer, I go: do you have anything by Founders, if not, do you have anything by Bell's, if not, do you have an apple cider, if not, I will take a Blue Moon please.

You and atomic should hang out more often.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 01:51:12 pm
POTW

Quote from: Yada on September 25, 2013, 01:42:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 25, 2013, 01:36:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 25, 2013, 12:27:56 pm
even when it comes to lowly beer, you have impeccable taste.
May want to rethink that. If forced to drink beer, I go: do you have anything by Founders, if not, do you have anything by Bell's, if not, do you have an apple cider, if not, I will take a Blue Moon please.

You and atomic should hang out more often.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 25, 2013, 01:52:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 25, 2013, 01:42:53 pm
You and atomic should hang out more often.
This just got so META.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 25, 2013, 02:23:58 pm
I really got to get my kids hooked on this KidsBeer (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/business/worldbusiness/19beer.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 25, 2013, 02:31:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 25, 2013, 01:42:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 25, 2013, 01:36:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 25, 2013, 12:27:56 pm
even when it comes to lowly beer, you have impeccable taste.
May want to rethink that. If forced to drink beer, I go: do you have anything by Founders, if not, do you have anything by Bell's, if not, do you have an apple cider, if not, I will take a Blue Moon please.

You and atomic should hang out more often.

Why? I don't drink Founder or Bells.  Actually I haven't had anything but German Beer for months.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 02:40:36 pm
My six year old refuses to drink soda or beer. What  a disappointment.

Quote from: Sidehatch on September 25, 2013, 02:23:58 pm
I really got to get my kids hooked on this KidsBeer (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/business/worldbusiness/19beer.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 02:58:44 pm
Firestone Walker Double DBA is out. $15/bottle. Is it worth twice the price of Stone Double Bastard, which comes out at the end of October?

I realize these beers are exactly comparable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 03:01:49 pm
I'm assuming you're still a Richmond person (?)

Have you had the pleasure of drinking anything by Hardywood?


Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 25, 2013, 01:36:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 25, 2013, 12:27:56 pm
even when it comes to lowly beer, you have impeccable taste.
May want to rethink that. If forced to drink beer, I go: do you have anything by Founders, if not, do you have anything by Bell's, if not, do you have an apple cider, if not, I will take a Blue Moon please.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on September 25, 2013, 03:18:57 pm
Anyone have Lagunitas DayTime yet? Terrific session IPA and makes for a great lawnmower/football-watching beer. I think it's a touch above Founders All Day, but they're both good IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 25, 2013, 03:20:08 pm
very good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 25, 2013, 03:21:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 03:01:49 pm
I'm assuming you're still a Richmond person (?)

Have you had the pleasure of drinking anything by Hardywood?
I had a sip of their Hardywood Singel or Single or whatever its called. It's all over the place here and they're embroiled in some weird meal tax controversy regarding beers sold at their brewery. Again, though, I drink maybe 36oz of beer in a year, so not the person to ask.

I actually just assisted with pouring Hardywood at a fashion pop up shop over the weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2013, 03:31:10 pm
Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 25, 2013, 03:21:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 25, 2013, 03:01:49 pm
I'm assuming you're still a Richmond person (?)

Have you had the pleasure of drinking anything by Hardywood?
I had a sip of their Hardywood Singel or Single or whatever its called. It's all over the place here and they're embroiled in some weird meal tax controversy regarding beers sold at their brewery. Again, though, I drink maybe 36oz of beer in a year, so not the person to ask.

I actually just assisted with pouring Hardywood at a fashion pop up shop over the weekend.

LOL
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 25, 2013, 03:48:37 pm
No, I really was. http://rvanews.com/entertainment/photos-northern-grade/102957
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2013, 03:50:11 pm
Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 25, 2013, 03:48:37 pm
No, I really was. http://rvanews.com/entertainment/photos-northern-grade/102957

That guy in mandals and cargo shorts looks like a great Richmond specimen of fashion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 26, 2013, 10:09:46 am
I was thinking about this.
I have never met either of them, but...


When I think of Julian (and I often do), I picture a Banana Republic employee.
When I think of atomic (and I often do), I picture a Trader Joe's employee.


Quote from: Yada on September 25, 2013, 01:42:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 25, 2013, 01:36:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 25, 2013, 12:27:56 pm
even when it comes to lowly beer, you have impeccable taste.
May want to rethink that. If forced to drink beer, I go: do you have anything by Founders, if not, do you have anything by Bell's, if not, do you have an apple cider, if not, I will take a Blue Moon please.

You and atomic should hang out more often.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 26, 2013, 11:28:56 am
i wonder where . . . i work.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 26, 2013, 11:29:43 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 26, 2013, 11:28:56 am
i wonder where . . . i work.

Spencer's Gifts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 26, 2013, 11:32:58 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 26, 2013, 11:28:56 am
i wonder where . . . i work.
You ever seen those SNL skits with Stefan on Weekend Update where he gives visitors to NYC the most inappropriate recommendations ever and they're always to some sort of LGBTIQ bondage nightclub filled with "teddy graham people" and "42 beardless Santa Clauses"? I always envisioned you working in one of those.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 26, 2013, 11:35:45 am
Quote from: Yada on September 26, 2013, 11:29:43 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 26, 2013, 11:28:56 am
i wonder where . . . i work.

Spencer's Gifts.

ooh . . . i used to love that store.  god i love the eighties era of malls and spencer gifts.  snakes in a can.  fart bags.  awful joke books.  good times.

now its all cheap crap with pot leafs over everything.  and sex toys.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 26, 2013, 11:37:05 am
Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 26, 2013, 11:32:58 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 26, 2013, 11:28:56 am
i wonder where . . . i work.
You ever seen those SNL skits with Stefan on Weekend Update where he gives visitors to NYC the most inappropriate recommendations ever and they're always to some sort of LGBTIQ bondage nightclub filled with "teddy graham people" and "42 beardless Santa Clauses"? I always envisioned you working in one of those.

if only you knew, how professional my career (not job) is, and how awesome my life is, because of and based on my job . . . you would allow me into your fold of high rolling esquires.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 26, 2013, 11:48:28 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 26, 2013, 11:37:05 am
Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on September 26, 2013, 11:32:58 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 26, 2013, 11:28:56 am
i wonder where . . . i work.
You ever seen those SNL skits with Stefan on Weekend Update where he gives visitors to NYC the most inappropriate recommendations ever and they're always to some sort of LGBTIQ bondage nightclub filled with "teddy graham people" and "42 beardless Santa Clauses"? I always envisioned you working in one of those.

if only you knew, how professional my career (not job) is, and how awesome my life is, because of and based on my job . . . you would allow me into your fold of high rolling esquires.

what is your career walky?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 26, 2013, 11:48:53 am
ill tell you . . . off the air.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 26, 2013, 11:57:46 am
I could swear you've said it on air before.

Quote from: walkonby on September 26, 2013, 11:48:53 am
ill tell you . . . off the air.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 26, 2013, 11:58:57 am
maybe i have.  i love my job so much.  best job i have ever had in my life!  it really is.  i feel bad for people, who hate, their jobs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 09:24:40 am
Hey Kimmich, if you can ship it to Hollywood, you can ship it to DC.

http://7d.blogs.com/biteclub/2013/09/heady-topper-a-hot-commodity-at-the-emmy-awards.html

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 27, 2013, 10:22:41 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 09:24:40 am
Hey Kimmich, if you can ship it to Hollywood, you can ship it to DC.

http://7d.blogs.com/biteclub/2013/09/heady-topper-a-hot-commodity-at-the-emmy-awards.html



wow... Got a fresh case coming this weekend!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 27, 2013, 10:29:03 am
maybe i am wrong . . . i am wrong a lot, but when i think of the hype of certain beers, i think of that ridiculous westvleteren bs, where people consider it the holy grail of holy grails with its epitome of a stupid way to get it, only to have another beer, st bernardus, which most consider to be just as good and i can find st bernardus everywhere i go, an equal to that "impossible to get" bs.  so make beer available, or fuck off.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 27, 2013, 10:34:01 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 27, 2013, 10:29:03 am
maybe i am wrong . . . i am wrong a lot, but when i think of the hype of certain beers, i think of that ridiculous westvleteren bs, where people consider it the holy grail of holy grails with its epitome of a stupid way to get it, only to have another beer, st bernardus, which most consider to be just as good and i can find st bernardus everywhere i go, an equal to that "impossible to get" bs.  so make beer available, or fuck off.

St Bernadus is good.  But I think the Westvleteren stuff is made by monks.   They only brew enough to support the Monastary.  I have never had it but I can see why they are making limited quantities.  We aren't talking some commercial brewery in Vermont. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 27, 2013, 10:41:26 am
http://bonbeer.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/westvleteren-12-vs-st-bernardus-abt-12/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 27, 2013, 10:43:12 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 27, 2013, 10:29:03 am
maybe i am wrong . . . i am wrong a lot, but when i think of the hype of certain beers, i think of that ridiculous westvleteren bs, where people consider it the holy grail of holy grails with its epitome of a stupid way to get it, only to have another beer, st bernardus, which most consider to be just as good and i can find st bernardus everywhere i go, an equal to that "impossible to get" bs.  so make beer available, or fuck off.
I think you're not counting how much more enjoyable a product is made psychologically by knowing that other people can not easily acquire it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 27, 2013, 10:48:45 am
uhh . . . i hate that feeling.  all for everybody, or fuck off.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 27, 2013, 10:55:15 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 27, 2013, 10:41:26 am
http://bonbeer.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/westvleteren-12-vs-st-bernardus-abt-12/



Interesting.  But even if they taste the same some people (James Ford) will prefer that it is brewed inside a monastary by monks over factory brewed beer.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 11:58:45 am
Actually, I kind of hate the Catholic church, so I'd much rather support an American (or Belgian) factory.

That said, the trappist monestaries make some damn fine beer.


Quote from: atomic on September 27, 2013, 10:55:15 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 27, 2013, 10:41:26 am
http://bonbeer.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/westvleteren-12-vs-st-bernardus-abt-12/



Interesting.  But even if they taste the same some people (James Ford) will prefer that it is brewed inside a monastary by monks over factory brewed beer.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 27, 2013, 01:49:11 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 11:58:45 am
Actually, I kind of hate the Catholic church, so I'd much rather support an American (or Belgian) factory.

That said, the trappist monestaries make some damn fine beer.


Quote from: atomic on September 27, 2013, 10:55:15 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 27, 2013, 10:41:26 am
http://bonbeer.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/westvleteren-12-vs-st-bernardus-abt-12/



Interesting.  But even if they taste the same some people (James Ford) will prefer that it is brewed inside a monastary by monks over factory brewed beer.   

I have enough airline miles to fly to belgium for free. Is it worth going there for the beer, moules, and frites?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 02:30:59 pm
That's how we went to Europe last time. Three free round trip tickets from our miles program. (mostly earned over several years of credit card purchases).

Since the miles programs are based on one way trips, I'd suggest flying into one city and flying home from another, to get the most bang for your buck. We flew into Munich, rented a car (very cheap if you rent wayyyyy in advance through autoeurope.com), and hit Belgium, and flew home from Amsterdam.

But i'm not really answering your question, am I? In my mind, Belgium doesn't have much to offer beyond the things you mentioned. And the weather was crap my last two times there. If moules, beer, and frites alone would satisfy you, by all means go for it. I was more inspired to return to Germany (better hiking, better weather, the bier gardens in Munich) than Belgium, despite their beer being inferior, and our being fish eating vegetarians.



Quote from: atomic on September 27, 2013, 01:49:11 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 11:58:45 am
Actually, I kind of hate the Catholic church, so I'd much rather support an American (or Belgian) factory.

That said, the trappist monestaries make some damn fine beer.


Quote from: atomic on September 27, 2013, 10:55:15 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 27, 2013, 10:41:26 am
http://bonbeer.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/westvleteren-12-vs-st-bernardus-abt-12/



Interesting.  But even if they taste the same some people (James Ford) will prefer that it is brewed inside a monastary by monks over factory brewed beer.   

I have enough airline miles to fly to belgium for free. Is it worth going there for the beer, moules, and frites?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 27, 2013, 02:58:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 02:30:59 pm
That's how we went to Europe last time. Three free round trip tickets from our miles program. (mostly earned over several years of credit card purchases).

Since the miles programs are based on one way trips, I'd suggest flying into one city and flying home from another, to get the most bang for your buck. We flew into Munich, rented a car (very cheap if you rent wayyyyy in advance through autoeurope.com), and hit Belgium, and flew home from Amsterdam.

But i'm not really answering your question, am I? In my mind, Belgium doesn't have much to offer beyond the things you mentioned. And the weather was crap my last two times there. If moules, beer, and frites alone would satisfy you, by all means go for it. I was more inspired to return to Germany (better hiking, better weather, the bier gardens in Munich) than Belgium, despite their beer being inferior, and our being fish eating vegetarians.



Quote from: atomic on September 27, 2013, 01:49:11 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 11:58:45 am
Actually, I kind of hate the Catholic church, so I'd much rather support an American (or Belgian) factory.

That said, the trappist monestaries make some damn fine beer.


Quote from: atomic on September 27, 2013, 10:55:15 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 27, 2013, 10:41:26 am
http://bonbeer.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/westvleteren-12-vs-st-bernardus-abt-12/



Interesting.  But even if they taste the same some people (James Ford) will prefer that it is brewed inside a monastary by monks over factory brewed beer.   

I have enough airline miles to fly to belgium for free. Is it worth going there for the beer, moules, and frites?

I am disappointed.  They said you were cheap and I thought no he isn't he went to Munich and Belgium.  I guess you still spent a bunch of money on hotel rooms. 

I got all my miles from flying and renting cars.  But I was thinking of going to someplace this winter with my miles.  I want to go to Norway next summer.  Looking at my  miles amount I can go to Paris, Belgium or Amsterdam for free.  Either that or I go to Hawaii or the Caribean.  But as those tickets are usually cheaper I don't know if it is worth it.  Plus I don't like relaxing on vacation. 

Maybe I will do Amsterdam an do a couple of days in Belgium. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 27, 2013, 03:17:41 pm
your final statement.  that makes the most sense.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 03:27:55 pm
For me it's 40K miles to goto Hawaii and 60K to go to Europe. But the price ratio isn't 2:3 for Hawaii:Europe (they're pretty close in price, aren't they?), so to me I think Hawaii makes more sense to go to on miles. Which is what we're doing next. And there's plenty of hiking, kayaking, whatever, to do in Hawaii, so I don't plan on doing toooo much relaxing.

We averaged $100 per night on hotels. Plenty of really good deals on priceline for the larger cities, and budget motels for the smaller towns.

I'm not a fan of Amsterdam.

There is good biking to be done in Holland and Belgium, but not in the winter.


Quote from: atomic on September 27, 2013, 02:58:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 02:30:59 pm
That's how we went to Europe last time. Three free round trip tickets from our miles program. (mostly earned over several years of credit card purchases).

Since the miles programs are based on one way trips, I'd suggest flying into one city and flying home from another, to get the most bang for your buck. We flew into Munich, rented a car (very cheap if you rent wayyyyy in advance through autoeurope.com), and hit Belgium, and flew home from Amsterdam.

But i'm not really answering your question, am I? In my mind, Belgium doesn't have much to offer beyond the things you mentioned. And the weather was crap my last two times there. If moules, beer, and frites alone would satisfy you, by all means go for it. I was more inspired to return to Germany (better hiking, better weather, the bier gardens in Munich) than Belgium, despite their beer being inferior, and our being fish eating vegetarians.



Quote from: atomic on September 27, 2013, 01:49:11 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 11:58:45 am
Actually, I kind of hate the Catholic church, so I'd much rather support an American (or Belgian) factory.

That said, the trappist monestaries make some damn fine beer.


Quote from: atomic on September 27, 2013, 10:55:15 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 27, 2013, 10:41:26 am
http://bonbeer.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/westvleteren-12-vs-st-bernardus-abt-12/



Interesting.  But even if they taste the same some people (James Ford) will prefer that it is brewed inside a monastary by monks over factory brewed beer.   

I have enough airline miles to fly to belgium for free. Is it worth going there for the beer, moules, and frites?

I am disappointed.  They said you were cheap and I thought no he isn't he went to Munich and Belgium.  I guess you still spent a bunch of money on hotel rooms. 

I got all my miles from flying and renting cars.  But I was thinking of going to someplace this winter with my miles.  I want to go to Norway next summer.  Looking at my  miles amount I can go to Paris, Belgium or Amsterdam for free.  Either that or I go to Hawaii or the Caribean.  But as those tickets are usually cheaper I don't know if it is worth it.  Plus I don't like relaxing on vacation. 

Maybe I will do Amsterdam an do a couple of days in Belgium. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 28, 2013, 08:07:23 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 09:24:40 am
Hey Kimmich, if you can ship it to Hollywood, you can ship it to DC.

http://7d.blogs.com/biteclub/2013/09/heady-topper-a-hot-commodity-at-the-emmy-awards.html



right, because sending 2 cases as a special shipment, on a time-time basis, is exactly the same as supplying an entire city.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 28, 2013, 08:29:39 am
yeah, bur don't you hate it that he's sucking up to Hollywood? cuz I do.

Quote from: sweetcell on September 28, 2013, 08:07:23 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 27, 2013, 09:24:40 am
Hey Kimmich, if you can ship it to Hollywood, you can ship it to DC.

http://7d.blogs.com/biteclub/2013/09/heady-topper-a-hot-commodity-at-the-emmy-awards.html



right, because sending 2 cases as a special shipment, on a time-time basis, is exactly the same as supplying an entire city.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 28, 2013, 06:46:29 pm
so im sitting here drinking this beer, by new belgium, called red hoptober, and i like it, not going to lie.  the bottle is cute, too.

but anyway, i, or i dont think, anybody has done this in a while.  what have you bought, what got you excited in the beer storee?  heres mine, over the past couple of months:

dogfish head  /  punkin ale
yards  /  cape good hope
erdinger  /  oktober fest box
green flash brewing  /  green bullet triple ipa  (i really want to call this, trippa)
weyerbacher   /  last chance ipa
lagunitas   /  gay time ale  (oops, day time)
hebrew  /  bittersweet lennys  ripa
firestone  /  double jack dipa
weyerbacher  /  double simcow  dipa  (did i just say, simcow)
dogfish head   /  sixty minute  (i only put this because i never knew the quailty of the simple sixty)
stone  /  seventeen  rotterdammerung ipa   (the keeper of the bunch)
lagunitas  /  little sumpin wild

and on my first list for founders harvest.  something about that beer that makes me throw my, fuck breweries who provide uber special beers . . . right out the window.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 30, 2013, 09:39:34 am
Finally tried The Truth by Flying Dog this weekend... Can't say I was all that blown away by it, pretty boozy finish and IMO doesn't touch Wings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 30, 2013, 10:04:49 am
I had the Imperial Pumpkin Ale from Flying Dog on Friday at the game.  Very strong. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 30, 2013, 08:43:13 pm
i have had too much tp drink, and now i am drunk.  good lord. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on September 30, 2013, 10:10:26 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 30, 2013, 08:43:13 pm
i have had too much tp drink, and now i am drunk.  good lord. 

Time to drink text.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on October 01, 2013, 07:23:45 am
Quote from: Yada on September 30, 2013, 09:39:34 am
Finally tried The Truth by Flying Dog this weekend... Can't say I was all that blown away by it, pretty boozy finish and IMO doesn't touch Wings.

The Truth at $9 per six pack is a solid beer by itself. However,  On Saturday I had OTWOA then followed by The Truth. No comparison in that situation, The Truth was bland and flavorless.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 08:18:50 am
But at less than half the price, I can handle the Truth.

Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on October 01, 2013, 07:23:45 am
Quote from: Yada on September 30, 2013, 09:39:34 am
Finally tried The Truth by Flying Dog this weekend... Can't say I was all that blown away by it, pretty boozy finish and IMO doesn't touch Wings.

The Truth at $9 per six pack is a solid beer by itself. However,  On Saturday I had OTWOA then followed by The Truth. No comparison in that situation, The Truth was bland and flavorless.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 01, 2013, 08:45:26 am
Just because it's $9 doesn't make it worth drinking... doubt I'll ever purchase it again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 09:19:16 am
Can you name me some better $10 and under DIPA (or even IPA) six pack year round options? Because $20 six packs aren't in my budget.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 08:45:26 am
Just because it's $9 doesn't make it worth drinking... doubt I'll ever purchase it again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 01, 2013, 10:09:30 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 09:19:16 am
Can you name me some better $10 and under DIPA (or even IPA) six pack year round options? Because $20 six packs aren't in my budget.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 08:45:26 am
Just because it's $9 doesn't make it worth drinking... doubt I'll ever purchase it again.

I'd rather drink a six pack of Stella than The Truth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 10:36:40 am
thanks for sharing, nozzle.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 10:09:30 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 09:19:16 am
Can you name me some better $10 and under DIPA (or even IPA) six pack year round options? Because $20 six packs aren't in my budget.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 08:45:26 am
Just because it's $9 doesn't make it worth drinking... doubt I'll ever purchase it again.

I'd rather drink a six pack of Stella than The Truth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 01, 2013, 10:37:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 10:36:40 am
thanks for sharing, nozzle.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 10:09:30 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 09:19:16 am
Can you name me some better $10 and under DIPA (or even IPA) six pack year round options? Because $20 six packs aren't in my budget.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 08:45:26 am
Just because it's $9 doesn't make it worth drinking... doubt I'll ever purchase it again.

I'd rather drink a six pack of Stella than The Truth.

You asked the question, nozzle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 01, 2013, 10:40:11 am
is the OTWOA readily available in Maryland?

fyi, I like the southern tier 2x dipa for under $20/six
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 10:52:08 am
I wanted an IPA/DIPA that was better than the Truth for $10 or less a six pack. Stella is not an IPA.

I'd say Torpedo and Stone IPA might fit that bill. Little Sumpin Sumpin if you count that as an IPA. Lagunitas Sucks if they put it in six packs again. That's about it.


Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 10:37:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 10:36:40 am
thanks for sharing, nozzle.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 10:09:30 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 09:19:16 am
Can you name me some better $10 and under DIPA (or even IPA) six pack year round options? Because $20 six packs aren't in my budget.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 08:45:26 am
Just because it's $9 doesn't make it worth drinking... doubt I'll ever purchase it again.

I'd rather drink a six pack of Stella than The Truth.

You asked the question, nozzle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 10:53:17 am
Cans are only sold at the brewery. The sometimes have it on draft at Whole Foods in Fairfax. Not sure where you'd find it on draft in MD, if at all.

Quote from: Bagley on October 01, 2013, 10:40:11 am
is the OTWOA readily available in Maryland?

fyi, I like the southern tier 2x dipa for under $20/six
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 02, 2013, 09:42:06 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 10:52:08 am
I wanted an IPA/DIPA that was better than the Truth for $10 or less a six pack. Stella is not an IPA.

I'd say Torpedo and Stone IPA might fit that bill. Little Sumpin Sumpin if you count that as an IPA. Lagunitas Sucks if they put it in six packs again. That's about it.


Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 10:37:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 10:36:40 am
thanks for sharing, nozzle.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 10:09:30 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 09:19:16 am
Can you name me some better $10 and under DIPA (or even IPA) six pack year round options? Because $20 six packs aren't in my budget.

Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2013, 08:45:26 am
Just because it's $9 doesn't make it worth drinking... doubt I'll ever purchase it again.

I'd rather drink a six pack of Stella than The Truth.

You asked the question, nozzle.

Two Hearted Ale and 60 Min IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 02, 2013, 11:36:41 am
http://priceonomics.com/the-craft-beer-movement/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 02, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
i now live in seattle, aka beer heaven. maybe beer heaven? i'm not sure. i stopped in to portland, and visited cascade and hair of the dog, and those places were great. maybe portland is beer heaven, or san diego, or san francisco. i've yet to spend enough time in those places.

but seattle is impressive. i'm living in ballard/fremont area, and i keep going for runs or bike rides and i keep passing new breweries.  i've seen 10+ breweries.  now, quantity vs. quality, yeah, but shit. the bottle shops and bars are great, too. i went to brouwers last night, and while time will tell, it might beat out churchkey as my favorite beer bar.  the draft list was IPA-focused, their "hopfest" just ended, but there's 40-50 drafts, and their bottle list is absolutely incredible.  anyways, went with a draft of green flash green bullet last night.  enjoyed the hop bomb.  will need to do my research before i show up next time.

had a few stops on the XC trip, but a surprise was in albuquerque. had elevation IPA, from la cumbre, and that was a damn good beer.  i should have bought more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 02, 2013, 04:09:14 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 02, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
i now live in seattle, aka beer heaven. maybe beer heaven? i'm not sure. i stopped in to portland, and visited cascade and hair of the dog, and those places were great. maybe portland is beer heaven, or san diego, or san francisco. i've yet to spend enough time in those places.

but seattle is impressive. i'm living in ballard/fremont area, and i keep going for runs or bike rides and i keep passing new breweries.  i've seen 10+ breweries.  now, quantity vs. quality, yeah, but shit. the bottle shops and bars are great, too. i went to brouwers last night, and while time will tell, it might beat out churchkey as my favorite beer bar.  the draft list was IPA-focused, their "hopfest" just ended, but there's 40-50 drafts, and their bottle list is absolutely incredible.  anyways, went with a draft of green flash green bullet last night.  enjoyed the hop bomb.  will need to do my research before i show up next time.

had a few stops on the XC trip, but a surprise was in albuquerque. had elevation IPA, from la cumbre, and that was a damn good beer.  i should have bought more.

Let me know when you need a shipment of Wings and we can set up nice little beer trade!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 02, 2013, 04:38:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 02, 2013, 04:09:14 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 02, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
i now live in seattle, aka beer heaven. maybe beer heaven? i'm not sure. i stopped in to portland, and visited cascade and hair of the dog, and those places were great. maybe portland is beer heaven, or san diego, or san francisco. i've yet to spend enough time in those places.

but seattle is impressive. i'm living in ballard/fremont area, and i keep going for runs or bike rides and i keep passing new breweries.  i've seen 10+ breweries.  now, quantity vs. quality, yeah, but shit. the bottle shops and bars are great, too. i went to brouwers last night, and while time will tell, it might beat out churchkey as my favorite beer bar.  the draft list was IPA-focused, their "hopfest" just ended, but there's 40-50 drafts, and their bottle list is absolutely incredible.  anyways, went with a draft of green flash green bullet last night.  enjoyed the hop bomb.  will need to do my research before i show up next time.

had a few stops on the XC trip, but a surprise was in albuquerque. had elevation IPA, from la cumbre, and that was a damn good beer.  i should have bought more.

Let me know when you need a shipment of Wings and we can set up nice little beer trade!

you know, i'm open to trading, and i sent out my first box on monday.  i shipped fedex ground to DC, and while the box was 30 lbs (i sent a lot of beer...), cost was insane.  $47.50 to ship to DC? that's nuts.  i shipped my dad a few beers as well, 8 lbs worth, and that was $20+.  any advice? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 02, 2013, 05:07:53 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 02, 2013, 04:38:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 02, 2013, 04:09:14 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 02, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
i now live in seattle, aka beer heaven. maybe beer heaven? i'm not sure. i stopped in to portland, and visited cascade and hair of the dog, and those places were great. maybe portland is beer heaven, or san diego, or san francisco. i've yet to spend enough time in those places.

but seattle is impressive. i'm living in ballard/fremont area, and i keep going for runs or bike rides and i keep passing new breweries.  i've seen 10+ breweries.  now, quantity vs. quality, yeah, but shit. the bottle shops and bars are great, too. i went to brouwers last night, and while time will tell, it might beat out churchkey as my favorite beer bar.  the draft list was IPA-focused, their "hopfest" just ended, but there's 40-50 drafts, and their bottle list is absolutely incredible.  anyways, went with a draft of green flash green bullet last night.  enjoyed the hop bomb.  will need to do my research before i show up next time.

had a few stops on the XC trip, but a surprise was in albuquerque. had elevation IPA, from la cumbre, and that was a damn good beer.  i should have bought more.

Let me know when you need a shipment of Wings and we can set up nice little beer trade!

you know, i'm open to trading, and i sent out my first box on monday.  i shipped fedex ground to DC, and while the box was 30 lbs (i sent a lot of beer...), cost was insane.  $47.50 to ship to DC? that's nuts.  i shipped my dad a few beers as well, 8 lbs worth, and that was $20+.  any advice? 

That seems a bit high... a case of topper or Surly is roughly $30 to ship, not really anyway around it. I'm willing to pay though essentially a mark up of $1.25 a beer for abrasive, topper, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 02, 2013, 06:01:52 pm
you know what sucks.  virginia.  but that is besides the point.  the usps will not allow any shipment of any alcohol anywhere from any place, any planet.  it is so tough, you can not ev en ship any thing in any box that says alcohol or anything pertaining to alcohol.  if it says the name of a winery on the box and that is all it says, you can not use it.  bizarro world.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 03, 2013, 11:00:23 am
Quote from: walkonby on October 02, 2013, 06:01:52 pm
you know what sucks.  virginia.  but that is besides the point.  the usps will not allow any shipment of any alcohol anywhere from any place, any planet.  it is so tough, you can not ev en ship any thing in any box that says alcohol or anything pertaining to alcohol.  if it says the name of a winery on the box and that is all it says, you can not use it.  bizarro world.


Yes, that is technically the law, but I get liquor and wine shipped to me all the time through respectable dealers and its never even questioned.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 03, 2013, 11:19:58 am
Quote
you know, i'm open to trading, and i sent out my first box on monday.  i shipped fedex ground to DC, and while the box was 30 lbs (i sent a lot of beer...), cost was insane.  $47.50 to ship to DC? that's nuts.  i shipped my dad a few beers as well, 8 lbs worth, and that was $20+.  any advice?

that seems too high - what I do is FedEx home delivery (I think its the same/possibly cheaper than fedex ground) - I do everything at home incl printing the label and then just drop it off at a FedEx - I find that you can usually underestimate the weight by quite a bit and they don't check
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 03, 2013, 11:23:43 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 02, 2013, 04:38:15 pm
you know, i'm open to trading, and i sent out my first box on monday.  i shipped fedex ground to DC, and while the box was 30 lbs (i sent a lot of beer...), cost was insane.  $47.50 to ship to DC? that's nuts.  i shipped my dad a few beers as well, 8 lbs worth, and that was $20+.  any advice? 
If you have a capable butler who can cover for your valet during his absence, you can always have your valet play courier for a day or two and hand-deliver it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 03, 2013, 11:39:09 am
Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on October 03, 2013, 11:23:43 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 02, 2013, 04:38:15 pm
you know, i'm open to trading, and i sent out my first box on monday.  i shipped fedex ground to DC, and while the box was 30 lbs (i sent a lot of beer...), cost was insane.  $47.50 to ship to DC? that's nuts.  i shipped my dad a few beers as well, 8 lbs worth, and that was $20+.  any advice? 
If you have a capable butler who can cover for your valet during his absence, you can always have your valet play courier for a day or two and hand-deliver it.

*searches for the funny in this post, can't find it**
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 03, 2013, 12:18:00 pm
Quote from: brennser on October 03, 2013, 11:19:58 am
Quote
you know, i'm open to trading, and i sent out my first box on monday.  i shipped fedex ground to DC, and while the box was 30 lbs (i sent a lot of beer...), cost was insane.  $47.50 to ship to DC? that's nuts.  i shipped my dad a few beers as well, 8 lbs worth, and that was $20+.  any advice?

that seems too high - what I do is FedEx home delivery (I think its the same/possibly cheaper than fedex ground) - I do everything at home incl printing the label and then just drop it off at a FedEx - I find that you can usually underestimate the weight by quite a bit and they don't check

that's a good plan.  will shift over to this.

i was in a pinch, wanted to get the box out before i started the new job.  you know, get the shit out with maximum freshness.

check out that la cumbre too.  it's worth a trade, readily available in New Mexico. $10 a 4-pack (16oz).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2013, 04:35:49 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 28, 2013, 06:46:29 pm
but anyway, i, or i dont think, anybody has done this in a while.  what have you bought, what got you excited in the beer storee? 

these days i'm most excited about my home brews.  before the twins were born, i went on a brewing rampage.  i knew i wouldn't be brewing much in the coming months so i stocked up the cellar. 

currently serving:
- citra/rye imperial saison (used a mix of Dupont and Brasserie Thiriez's yeasts).  i have half of this batch aging on brett but that won't be ready until Xmas at the earliest.
- split batch belgian blond'ish/saison: fermented half with the aforementioned saison's yeast, and the other half with Fantome yeast (which is also a saison yeast).
- chocolate oatmeal stout (brewed for the missus - oatmeal and hops are supposed to be good for breastfeeding)
- harvest ale, made using fresh-picked wet hops
- "leftover soup DIPA", a huge hop bomb with an eclectic malt bill (AKA whatever needed to be used up)

all of these beers are damn tasty, if i do say so myself.  it's quite interesting to do side-by-side tasting of the 3 saisons.  i can do a "different wort same yeast" or a "same wort different yeast" comparison.

currently fermenting in the basement is a maple mead and black cherry cider.  those were relatively easy to throw together and mostly just require time to age out... i'm not going to be using those fermenters for the next few months anyways ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 04, 2013, 04:39:57 pm
your basement . . . must smell, interesting.  mine smells like the cat box, sometimes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2013, 04:40:03 pm
bottle share/baby welcoming party at sweetcell's.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 04, 2013, 04:35:49 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 28, 2013, 06:46:29 pm
but anyway, i, or i dont think, anybody has done this in a while.  what have you bought, what got you excited in the beer storee? 

these days i'm most excited about my home brews.  before the twins were born, i went on a brewing rampage.  i knew i wouldn't be brewing much in the coming months so i stocked up the cellar. 

currently serving:
- citra/rye imperial saison (used a mix of Dupont and Brasserie Thiriez's yeasts).  i have half of this batch aging on brett but that won't be ready until Xmas at the earliest.
- split batch belgian blond'ish/saison: fermented half with the aforementioned saison's yeast, and the other half with Fantome yeast (which is also a saison yeast).
- chocolate oatmeal stout (brewed for the missus - oatmeal and hops are supposed to be good for breastfeeding)
- harvest ale, made using fresh-picked wet hops
- "leftover soup DIPA", a huge hop bomb with an eclectic malt bill (AKA whatever needed to be used up)

all of these beers are damn tasty, if i do say so myself.  it's quite interesting to do side-by-side tasting of the 3 saisons.  i can do a "different wort same yeast" or a "same wort different yeast" comparison.

currently fermenting in the basement is a maple mead and black cherry cider.  those were relatively easy to throw together and mostly just require time to age out... i'm not going to be using those fermenters for the next few months anyways ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 04, 2013, 04:42:54 pm
I am thinking of investing in In-Bev.  I feel like I should get something out of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2013, 08:55:52 pm
Quote from: walkonby on October 04, 2013, 04:39:57 pm
your basement . . . must smell, interesting.  mine smells like the cat box, sometimes.

as a former cat-owner/cat-slave, i can sympathize with the litter box odors.  i almost miss it.

fermentation generally doesn't smell like much.  occasionally some fermentations will kick off a sulfurous smell (sometimes called "rhino farts") but i've only ever had that happen once with a trippel.  lager fermentations are notorious for offensive sulfur odors.  unless i drop a bottle and beer splashes everywhere, the basement is relatively smell-free.

Quote from: James Ford on October 04, 2013, 04:40:03 pm
bottle share/baby welcoming party at sweetcell's.

we're keeping the visitors to a minimum for now to allow their immune systems to get up to speed.  but once we go full public we can't wait to have you folks over.  in fact, given how long it takes us to agree on a date i should probably organize that now ;D

Quote from: atomic on October 04, 2013, 04:42:54 pm
I am thinking of investing in In-Bev.  I feel like I should get something out of them.

in case you are seriously considering investing on them, don't.  their market share is shrinking domestically and their international expansion plans aren't meeting expectations.  their stock price is dependent on growth and they ain't got none.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 04, 2013, 11:02:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 04, 2013, 08:55:52 pm
Quote from: walkonby on October 04, 2013, 04:39:57 pm
your basement . . . must smell, interesting.  mine smells like the cat box, sometimes.

as a former cat-owner/cat-slave, i can sympathize with the litter box odors.  i almost miss it.

fermentation generally doesn't smell like much.  occasionally some fermentations will kick off a sulfurous smell (sometimes called "rhino farts") but i've only ever had that happen once with a trippel.  lager fermentations are notorious for offensive sulfur odors.  unless i drop a bottle and beer splashes everywhere, the basement is relatively smell-free.

Quote from: James Ford on October 04, 2013, 04:40:03 pm
bottle share/baby welcoming party at sweetcell's.

we're keeping the visitors to a minimum for now to allow their immune systems to get up to speed.  but once we go full public we can't wait to have you folks over.  in fact, given how long it takes us to agree on a date i should probably organize that now ;D

Quote from: atomic on October 04, 2013, 04:42:54 pm
I am thinking of investing in In-Bev.  I feel like I should get something out of them.

in case you are seriously considering investing on them, don't.  their market share is shrinking domestically and their international expansion plans aren't meeting expectations.  their stock price is dependent on growth and they ain't got none.

I don't think that is true at all.  There P/E is 12.2 which isn't too high.  They make a ton of profit.  They control most of the beer brands in the world.  Yeah beer sales are down in the US but there is still a lot out there.  I guess they have a lot of debt.  They can buy up the craft breweries like they did with Goose Island.  Basically anywhere you go there is a ton of In-Bev products.  Compare them to Sam Adams or Craft Brew Alliance and their stock price looks like a much better deal.  The stock market is overvalued right now. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 06, 2013, 01:12:45 pm
i enjoy "cat slave."  how true, indeed.  i found some other interesting beers.  now seems to be the lull time for exciting beers.  i sometimes question the time and effort put into making my own beer.  then i realize that yes, i am a lazy american an i will go buy it.  the bottles that i pollute the world with are neater, too.

saint bernardus    twelve  -  all that talk of it earlier made me thirsty for it.  so, fucking good.

paulaner   oktoberfest   -  all these fucking, sorry, freaking oktoberfests out there.  blah.  this one good, though.

weyerbacher   imperial pumkin  -  all these freaking, sorry, fucking pumpkin ales out there.  this one pretty darn good, though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 07, 2013, 10:43:15 am
I had some Leffe Brown last night.  It was even tastier knowing I owned stock in the company.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 07, 2013, 11:41:27 am
I come to 930.com for the cat pics, but I stay for the stock tips.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 07, 2013, 11:47:17 am
Quote from: walkonby on October 06, 2013, 01:12:45 pm
ipaulaner   oktoberfest   -  all these fucking, sorry, freaking oktoberfests out there.  blah.  this one good, though.

I thought the only German Beers allow to be called Oktoberfest beers are ones from Munich Breweries?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 07, 2013, 03:32:22 pm
im too busy drinking them, to notice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 09, 2013, 08:35:22 pm
the shutdown affects the beer world

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/business/shutdown-makes-craft-brewer-taps-run-dry/2013/10/09/2dc324c0-4e5e-4368-a53c-fe5c07a511bf_video.html?hpid=z3
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 10, 2013, 11:42:48 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 09, 2013, 08:35:22 pm
the shutdown affects the beer world

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/business/shutdown-makes-craft-brewer-taps-run-dry/2013/10/09/2dc324c0-4e5e-4368-a53c-fe5c07a511bf_video.html?hpid=z3

I don't think a beer not getting new label approved is a very big deal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 12, 2013, 08:34:16 pm
What does one drink and eat after running the Baltimore Marathon?

I passed on the free Michelob Ultra they were giving to all runners.

I had Lawson's Double Sunshine with BBQ salmon, mac and cheese and spinach salad for dinner.

Having Founders KBS with strawberries and dark chocolate for dessert.

Yum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 12, 2013, 09:00:01 pm
had a founders kbs this week, not sure if it stored long enough to acheive full whatever, but whatever is exactly what i thought, good, yes, very good, yes, the bomb diggidy, no. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 12, 2013, 11:09:14 pm
Mine was from 2012. So about 18 months old. Much more mellow than when fresh. Completely different beer. Still very good.

Quote from: walkonby on October 12, 2013, 09:00:01 pm
had a founders kbs this week, not sure if it stored long enough to acheive full whatever, but whatever is exactly what i thought, good, yes, very good, yes, the bomb diggidy, no. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 13, 2013, 11:45:20 am
it was the first kbs i have ever had . . . i think i was expecting it to jerk me off or something.  im trying to stop hyping up things in life, and just enjoy them.  sometimes life jumps all over you and wants to hold your hand into the pits of unnatural hell, and then you crawl out, find the light, move on, and respect the world that jesus gave you.

who knew, beer, could make me get all wishy washy. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 15, 2013, 03:47:44 pm
anyone going to Snallygaster? (I am not)

http://www.snallygasterdc.com/documents/FINAL2013SNALLYBEERLIST.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 15, 2013, 04:33:18 pm
Having some Stiegl and quite enjoying it.  Funny when I was in Salzburg drinking it, I didn't like it as much.  Maybe it was the glass they served it in.  Maybe it was because I had schnapps for breakfeast.. Maybe it was because I was used to beer being served in 1 liter servings and they only served Stiegl in half liter servings. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on October 16, 2013, 10:36:18 am
You can thank the gawd-awful Tea Party for postponing Founders to finally distribute to Maryland.

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/270879/14/Founders-expansion-halted-due-to-shutdown
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 16, 2013, 10:48:06 am
thats because the tea party aint drinking that faggy overpriced city slicker snobby beer . . . p, fucking, br
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 16, 2013, 11:04:22 am

This chart makes me sad.  Maryland why so low?  I drink 3 beers a weeknight. 

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/07/20130704_drink.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 16, 2013, 11:30:04 am
picked up two hair of the dog matt's last night.

i probably wont drink them for another 3 years, but damn do i look forward to cracking one of those open.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 16, 2013, 03:05:42 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 16, 2013, 11:30:04 am
picked up two hair of the dog matt's last night.

i probably wont drink them for another 3 years, but damn do i look forward to cracking one of those open.

Do you plan on being pregnant for the next 3 years?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 03:06:31 pm
I went to Whole Foods in Fairfax this afternoon for a leisurely lunch, making sure I had a $4 12 oz pour of Founders Breakfast Stout. Then I tried a $4 5 oz pour of The Bruery's Oude Tart. And it was so damn good I had to have another. So good that it could singlehandedly convert me to being a fan of sour beers.

(http://barleydine.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/oude-tart.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 16, 2013, 03:08:35 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 03:06:31 pm
I went to Whole Foods in Fairfax this afternoon for a leisurely lunch, making sure I had a $4 12 oz pour of Founders Breakfast Stout. Then I tried a $4 5 oz pour of The Bruery's Oude Tart. And it was so damn good I had to have another. So good that it could singlehandedly convert me to being a fan of sour beers.



Instead of drinking a flemish-style ale wouldn't it make sense to drink a Flemish Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 03:31:32 pm
I've got a Hair of the Dog Adam that I've been sitting on for two years.



Quote from: atomic on October 16, 2013, 03:05:42 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 16, 2013, 11:30:04 am
picked up two hair of the dog matt's last night.

i probably wont drink them for another 3 years, but damn do i look forward to cracking one of those open.

Do you plan on being pregnant for the next 3 years?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 03:33:28 pm
Rodenbach isn't sold in VA, and that's what was on draft. Probably comparable in taste.

Quote from: atomic on October 16, 2013, 03:08:35 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 03:06:31 pm
I went to Whole Foods in Fairfax this afternoon for a leisurely lunch, making sure I had a $4 12 oz pour of Founders Breakfast Stout. Then I tried a $4 5 oz pour of The Bruery's Oude Tart. And it was so damn good I had to have another. So good that it could singlehandedly convert me to being a fan of sour beers.



Instead of drinking a flemish-style ale wouldn't it make sense to drink a Flemish Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 03:34:26 pm
Try the Stiegl Radler. Tastes like grapefruit soda. In a good way.

Quote from: atomic on October 15, 2013, 04:33:18 pm
Having some Stiegl and quite enjoying it.  Funny when I was in Salzburg drinking it, I didn't like it as much.  Maybe it was the glass they served it in.  Maybe it was because I had schnapps for breakfeast.. Maybe it was because I was used to beer being served in 1 liter servings and they only served Stiegl in half liter servings. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 16, 2013, 04:03:12 pm
Are you furloughed JF?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 16, 2013, 04:41:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 03:06:31 pm
I went to Whole Foods in Fairfax this afternoon for a leisurely lunch, making sure I had a $4 12 oz pour of Founders Breakfast Stout. Then I tried a $4 5 oz pour of The Bruery's Oude Tart. And it was so damn good I had to have another. So good that it could singlehandedly convert me to being a fan of sour beers.

yes!!!

that beer rules.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 16, 2013, 04:44:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 03:31:32 pm
I've got a Hair of the Dog Adam that I've been sitting on for two years.
Quote from: atomic on October 16, 2013, 03:05:42 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 16, 2013, 11:30:04 am
picked up two hair of the dog matt's last night.

i probably wont drink them for another 3 years, but damn do i look forward to cracking one of those open.

Do you plan on being pregnant for the next 3 years?

adam is real good. i was an even bigger fred fan.  on draft, that is. i haven't had either from the bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 04:55:05 pm
Pretty sure brennser brought an Adam to a bottle share. Though we've had so many good beers at those, it's hard to keep track. Their Doggie Claws barleywine is also pretty awesome.

Quote from: stevewizzle on October 16, 2013, 04:44:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 16, 2013, 03:31:32 pm
I've got a Hair of the Dog Adam that I've been sitting on for two years.
Quote from: atomic on October 16, 2013, 03:05:42 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 16, 2013, 11:30:04 am
picked up two hair of the dog matt's last night.

i probably wont drink them for another 3 years, but damn do i look forward to cracking one of those open.

Do you plan on being pregnant for the next 3 years?

adam is real good. i was an even bigger fred fan.  on draft, that is. i haven't had either from the bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 18, 2013, 03:19:40 pm
I just had some Goose Island Sophie.  Quite tasty and since I am part owner of the company it makes me mighty proud.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2013, 07:23:07 pm
This afternoon (Friday), I was sitting atop Old Rag drinking a Heady Topper. Life doesn't get any better than that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2013, 08:26:24 pm
Bought a four pack of Victory DirtWolf today. Havne't tried it but have high hopes. Anybody tried it?

Shard four beers at Smoke and Barrel last night.

Ballast Point Victory at Sea...one of my very favorite porter/stouts

Triple Digit Chickow...never heard of these guys before, but i was quite impressed. An imperial brown ale that tasted like liquid nutella (had hazlenut in it)

Heavy Seas Cabernet Aged Barleywine (the name is too long for me to remember)...interesting and different, glad i tried it probably won't driink it again

New Belgium Le Teroir...hybrid of an IPA and a sour....very highly rated, I'd rate it good but not great. Another interesting one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 18, 2013, 11:29:35 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 18, 2013, 07:23:07 pm
This afternoon (Friday), I was sitting atop Old Rag drinking a Heady Topper. Life doesn't get any better than that.

Old Rag is a cool hike.  But the furlough is over...why aren't you back at work.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 23, 2013, 04:45:29 pm
Bluejacket to open on Tuesday 10/29

"What beers will Bluejacket debut with? Among them: Forbidden Planet, a dry-hopped kolsch made with Galaxy hops; the Scarecrow, a hoppy saison; the Imposter, a session rye IPA; Tooth & Nail, an imperial IPA; Figure 8, a wee heavy made with local figs and modeled after pastry chef Tiffany MacIsaac's figgy toffee pudding; and James & the Giant, a Belgian strong blonde ale with local peaches."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2013/10/23/beer-drinkers-prepare-your-arms-bluejacket-to-open-on-tuesday/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 24, 2013, 02:45:19 pm
Tell me he doesn't look like he should be fronting one of atomic's favorite bands.

(http://www.welovedc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Greg-engert.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 24, 2013, 03:35:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 24, 2013, 02:45:19 pm
Tell me he doesn't look like he should be fronting one of atomic's favorite bands.

(http://www.welovedc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Greg-engert.jpg)


One word: Nozzle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 24, 2013, 03:56:52 pm
you can judge by just one photo?  you can judge by just one outfit?  you can judge by just one james ford post?  you can judge by just one beer thread?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 24, 2013, 04:01:41 pm
Quote from: walkonby on October 24, 2013, 03:56:52 pm
you can judge by just one photo?  you can judge by just one outfit?  you can judge by just one james ford post?  you can judge by just one beer thread?

I can judge from meeting the guy multiple times.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 24, 2013, 04:05:47 pm
oh, well, then, well, like, nevermind.

i do admit . . . i was judging him, by that hair.  good lard.  yes, i said lard.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 25, 2013, 08:58:19 am
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/business_insider/2013/10/16/131016_bi_beermap.jpg

atomic approved.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2013, 09:18:26 am
Shared a 4+ month old bottle of Founders Devil Dancer last night. Tasted like a nice barleywine, a lot different than the fest version. Paired it with my veggie chili and a Lagunitas Daytime IPA. Quite a contrast those two IPA's were.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 25, 2013, 10:17:52 am
Quote from: Yada on October 25, 2013, 08:58:19 am
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/business_insider/2013/10/16/131016_bi_beermap.jpg

atomic approved.

Thank you Texas.  My BUD stock is up 7 percent so far since I bought it earlier this month.  Keep drinking it up people.  Water is good for you.  So Beer that tastes like water must be good for you too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 25, 2013, 12:17:12 pm
new brewpub will be opening right around the corner from the 930.  they'll be making sour and barrel-aged beers.

http://www.dcbeer.com/news/checking-right-proper
https://www.facebook.com/RightProperBrewingCompany

now accepting applications: http://rightproperbrewery.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2013, 01:29:09 pm
Looks like I'll be hitting the Three Floyds Brewpub on December 26 again this year. Among their other less hoppy selections (but who cares about those, lol), I'll get to choose from:

Alpha King Pale Ale  A bold yet balanced American pale ale with slight caramel sweetness and aggressive
 citrus hoppiness. This is our flagship beer.   68 IBU 6.66% ABV $5 Imperial Pint                 

Dreadnaught IPA  An Imperial India Pale Ale with an intense citrus hop aroma, a huge malt body and a crisp finish.  100 IBU 9.5% ABV $5 Half Pint

Arctic Panzer Wolf   A massive IPA that will leave your palate its hapless victim. Scorched earth is our brewery
 policy.  100 IBU 9% ABV $5 Snifter

Zombie Dust   This intensely hopped and gushing undead pale ale will be one's only respite after the zombie apocalypse.
Created with our marvelous friends in the comic industry. Art by Tim Seeley.  60 IBU 6.4%  $5 Imperial Pint 

Permanent Funeral The wolf inside this pale ale is trying to walk upright. This bright and aromatic beer was brewed with our friends in the band Pig Destroyer. 100 IBUs, 10. 5% ABV $5 Half Pint

War Mullet This double IPA will make you want to grow a mullet (if you don?t already have one) and go to war (if your?re not already). 8.1 % ABV. $5 Snifter
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 09:39:40 am
Duvel acquires Boulevard. Sorry, I'm two weeks behind on the news.

Are they going to ruin Boulevard the way AB-InBev has ruined Goose Island (they haven't)?



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/business/belgian-brewery-buys-boulevard-a-us-craft-beer-maker.html?_r=0
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:34:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 09:39:40 am
Duvel acquires Boulevard. Sorry, I'm two weeks behind on the news.

Are they going to ruin Boulevard the way AB-InBev has ruined Goose Island (they haven't)?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/business/belgian-brewery-buys-boulevard-a-us-craft-beer-maker.html?_r=0

duvel acquired Ommegang and haven't ruined them, so i'd say "probably no".

and i'm not sure that In-Bev ruined GI.  matilda and sofie taste just as good to me and GI is coming up with some great one-offs and seasonals.  a beer distributor that i spoke to at CBC was of the opinion that GI is now better than pre-acquisition: after the buy-out, the head brewers left but all the assistant brewers that were instantly promoted were highly motivated to prove themselves... hence the burst of creativity.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:40:46 am
1) finally got to try The Truth - and i really liked it.  it not quite on the level of Heady/Pliny/Zombie/etc but it's an excellent hop-bomb.  if Flying Dog makes this a regular offering it will be my go-to. 

2) also picked up a sixer of duClaw's Sweet Baby Jesus: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1924/88269.  tried one last night and wasn't impressed.  the taste was ok but the aroma was off-putting.  i'll give it another chance tonight, maybe that was a bad bottle. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on October 28, 2013, 11:03:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 09:39:40 am
Duvel acquires Boulevard. Sorry, I'm two weeks behind on the news.

Are they going to ruin Boulevard the way AB-InBev has ruined Goose Island (they haven't)?



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/business/belgian-brewery-buys-boulevard-a-us-craft-beer-maker.html?_r=0

Nope. They operate Ommegang and it's basically been run the same it was before they purchased it. They just have the financial backing of Duvel. I'm not worried in the least about Boulevard's quality slipping.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 28, 2013, 11:20:29 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:34:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 09:39:40 am
Duvel acquires Boulevard. Sorry, I'm two weeks behind on the news.

Are they going to ruin Boulevard the way AB-InBev has ruined Goose Island (they haven't)?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/business/belgian-brewery-buys-boulevard-a-us-craft-beer-maker.html?_r=0

duvel acquired Ommegang and haven't ruined them, so i'd say "probably no".

and i'm not sure that In-Bev ruined GI.  matilda and sofie taste just as good to me and GI is coming up with some great one-offs and seasonals.  a beer distributor that i spoke to at CBC was of the opinion that GI is now better than pre-acquisition: after the buy-out, the head brewers left but all the assistant brewers that were instantly promoted were highly motivated to prove themselves... hence the burst of creativity.

i've come around on this issue, despite my hate of inbev.  bourbon county will now be available in all 50 states, a very impressive expansion. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 11:28:39 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 28, 2013, 11:20:29 am
i've come around on this issue, despite my hate of inbev. 

that's the thing... i want to hate InBev and everything they do, but it looks like *some* big guys have figured out the formula: acquire a craft brewery, give it access to capital and a distribution network, but stay the fuck out of the brew house.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 28, 2013, 11:50:29 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 11:28:39 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 28, 2013, 11:20:29 am
i've come around on this issue, despite my hate of inbev. 

that's the thing... i want to hate InBev and everything they do, but it looks like *some* big guys have figured out the formula: acquire a craft brewery, give it access to capital and a distribution network, but stay the fuck out of the brew house.

yup. and the more barrel-aged beers, the better.  that shit takes capital, and we are a long way away from meeting the demand on these barrel-aged stouts and sours.  people line-up all day for these types of beers. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 28, 2013, 01:02:07 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 11:28:39 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 28, 2013, 11:20:29 am
i've come around on this issue, despite my hate of inbev. 

that's the thing... i want to hate InBev and everything they do, but it looks like *some* big guys have figured out the formula: acquire a craft brewery, give it access to capital and a distribution network, but stay the fuck out of the brew house.

InBev is great for Goose Island.  I can get it at the ball game.  I can get it every little bar now.  And it tastes great.  Better than Sam Adams or Fat Tire. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 01:23:35 pm
That's what I said until I tried Victory DirtWolf. And Victory IS making DirtWolf a regular offering.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:40:46 am
1)  if Flying Dog makes this a regular offering it will be my go-to. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 01:24:55 pm
I tried a taste of that and found it truly repulsive.


Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:40:46 am
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1924/88269.  tried one last night and wasn't impressed.  the taste was ok but the aroma was off-putting.  i'll give it another chance tonight, maybe that was a bad bottle. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 28, 2013, 01:31:58 pm
I tried Warlock (http://www.stbcbeer.com/black-water/warlock/) by Southern Tier this weekend and loved it.  And I typically hate pumpkin in beer

(http://bdnpull.bangorpublishing.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/IMG_3453-250x250.jpg)


Anyone making there way to Bluejacket this week...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 28, 2013, 01:42:25 pm
Stopped in at maybe the best beer store I've been to in the city in a long, long time...

Who'da thunk Petworth would have an amazing beer store?

http://www.yelp.com/biz/lions-liquor-washington

Definitely need a bullet proof vest when visiting walky.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 03:03:01 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 01:23:35 pm
That's what I said until I tried Victory DirtWolf. And Victory IS making DirtWolf a regular offering.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:40:46 am
1)  if Flying Dog makes this a regular offering it will be my go-to. 


thanks for the heads-up.  will keep my eyes open for this one.

EDIT - no wonder this one is a winner, from Victory's webpage for Dirtwolf:
"Hops: Whole flower Citra, Chinook, Simcoe and Mosaic hops" <-- 4 excellent hops that taste excellent together.  gotta be an expensive beer to make, except for chinook those hops aren't cheap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 03:45:28 pm
$8.49/ four pack at Total Wine. $9.99 at Whole Foods.

8.7abv

Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 03:03:01 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 01:23:35 pm
That's what I said until I tried Victory DirtWolf. And Victory IS making DirtWolf a regular offering.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:40:46 am
1)  if Flying Dog makes this a regular offering it will be my go-to. 


thanks for the heads-up.  will keep my eyes open for this one.

EDIT - no wonder this one is a winner, from Victory's webpage for Dirtwolf:
"Hops: Whole flower Citra, Chinook, Simcoe and Mosaic hops" <-- 4 excellent hops that taste excellent together.  gotta be an expensive beer to make, except for chinook those hops aren't cheap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 03:48:06 pm
Did anybody have a chance to try DC Brau Alpha Domina Mellis? Not saying it's as good as OTWOA, but we tried it side by side with Maine Beer Company's Zoe at Churchkey Saturday night and it was every bit as good as that beer, which itself is excellent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 29, 2013, 10:06:57 am
its disgusting beyond belief

its also their biggest selling beer and they are expanding capacity to brew more of it - I guess there no accounting for taste
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 01:24:55 pm
I tried a taste of that and found it truly repulsive.


Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:40:46 am
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1924/88269.  tried one last night and wasn't impressed.  the taste was ok but the aroma was off-putting.  i'll give it another chance tonight, maybe that was a bad bottle. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 29, 2013, 11:54:06 am
I cannot bring myself to even try that beer.  People seem to really love it though.

I want my beer to taste like BEER.

Right now, I'm really loving Southern Tier Harvest and I've been in a Guinness mood recently too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 29, 2013, 01:03:25 pm
The guy doing the tasting described it as "going down like a Tootsie Roll and finishing like a Reese's"

I actually just had this beer:

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/triple-digit-chickow/187696/

...which tasted like liquid Nutella, and it was actually quite good.

Quote from: K8teebug on October 29, 2013, 11:54:06 am
I cannot bring myself to even try that beer.  People seem to really love it though.

I want my beer to taste like BEER.

Right now, I'm really loving Southern Tier Harvest and I've been in a Guinness mood recently too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 29, 2013, 01:29:20 pm
i've had it.  there were a bunch of pretty decent homebrewed variations of peanut butter porters at the national homebrew conference, so i decided to try it at churchkey when i saw it.  i digged it, but only could do a taster.  i remember really enjoying it when it was cold, and then it warmed up and wasn't so tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2013, 09:17:36 pm
Quote from: brennser on October 29, 2013, 10:06:57 am
its disgusting beyond belief

its also their biggest selling beer and they are expanding capacity to brew more of it - I guess there no accounting for taste
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 01:24:55 pm
I tried a taste of that and found it truly repulsive.


Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:40:46 am
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1924/88269.  tried one last night and wasn't impressed.  the taste was ok but the aroma was off-putting.  i'll give it another chance tonight, maybe that was a bad bottle. 

well, i now i have 4 bottles that i'm not going to drink... so i'll bring them to the next bottle share ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2013, 01:29:37 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 03:45:28 pm
$8.49/ four pack at Total Wine. $9.99 at Whole Foods.

8.7abv

Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 03:03:01 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 01:23:35 pm
That's what I said until I tried Victory DirtWolf. And Victory IS making DirtWolf a regular offering.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:40:46 am
1)  if Flying Dog makes this a regular offering it will be my go-to. 


thanks for the heads-up.  will keep my eyes open for this one.

EDIT - no wonder this one is a winner, from Victory's webpage for Dirtwolf:
"Hops: Whole flower Citra, Chinook, Simcoe and Mosaic hops" <-- 4 excellent hops that taste excellent together.  gotta be an expensive beer to make, except for chinook those hops aren't cheap.

according to http://flyingdogales.com/beers/the-truth/, The Truth is a year-round offering.

hops: Warrior (most likely for bittering only), Summit, CTZ, Citra, Amarillo... oh yeah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 30, 2013, 08:43:57 am
it hasn't appeared in VA yet. I got mine when it first came out in DC. Haven't seen it since then. Not that  I do that much beer shopping in DC, beyond Whole Foods.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 30, 2013, 01:29:37 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 03:45:28 pm
$8.49/ four pack at Total Wine. $9.99 at Whole Foods.

8.7abv

Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 03:03:01 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2013, 01:23:35 pm
That's what I said until I tried Victory DirtWolf. And Victory IS making DirtWolf a regular offering.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 28, 2013, 10:40:46 am
1)  if Flying Dog makes this a regular offering it will be my go-to. 


thanks for the heads-up.  will keep my eyes open for this one.

EDIT - no wonder this one is a winner, from Victory's webpage for Dirtwolf:
"Hops: Whole flower Citra, Chinook, Simcoe and Mosaic hops" <-- 4 excellent hops that taste excellent together.  gotta be an expensive beer to make, except for chinook those hops aren't cheap.

according to http://flyingdogales.com/beers/the-truth/, The Truth is a year-round offering.

hops: Warrior (most likely for bittering only), Summit, CTZ, Citra, Amarillo... oh yeah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 30, 2013, 09:30:10 am
Picked up four packs of Dirt Wolf and Breakfast Stoudt last night, lookin' forward to diggin' in.

Has Harvest Ale by Founders popped up anywhere?

Disregard that question, it has landed in DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 30, 2013, 01:10:54 pm
Did anybody pick up Boulevard Bourbon Barrel Quad? I snagged one, but wish I had grabbed an extra so I could have one now and age the other.

Never had Founders Harvest Ale. Doesn't seem to be out my way in VA yet, so hope I can get some!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on October 30, 2013, 09:20:45 pm
Currently drinking a Port Brewing Mongo IPA and paired it with a homemade pizza. Great stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 31, 2013, 08:58:23 am
Founders Harvest Ale is a huge disappointment this year - ABV is up and hops have been dialed back, at least to my palate
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 31, 2013, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 08:58:23 am
Founders Harvest Ale is a huge disappointment this year - ABV is up and hops have been dialed back, at least to my palate

And extremely overpriced, MacGruder's and Rodman's seem to have bumped the cost of a four pack up by at least $4 to $5.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 31, 2013, 09:24:17 am
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 08:58:23 am
Founders Harvest Ale is a huge disappointment this year - ABV is up and hops have been dialed back, at least to my palate

And extremely overpriced, MacGruder's and Rodman's seem to have bumped the cost of a four pack up by at least $4 to $5.
yeah $14.99 at Magruders - holy shit!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 31, 2013, 09:25:05 am
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 08:58:23 am
Founders Harvest Ale is a huge disappointment this year - ABV is up and hops have been dialed back, at least to my palate

And extremely overpriced, MacGruder's and Rodman's seem to have bumped the cost of a four pack up by at least $4 to $5.
and speaking of overpriced have folks seen the prices on those new Goose Island wild ales??!! Gillian is $30+
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 31, 2013, 09:30:22 am
nothing better than breweries who believe in once a year bullshit . . . and then fuck up that bullshit
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 09:51:09 am
Move to Fairfax County.

$9.99/four pack and lower sales tax at Total Wine.

Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 09:24:17 am
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 08:58:23 am
Founders Harvest Ale is a huge disappointment this year - ABV is up and hops have been dialed back, at least to my palate

And extremely overpriced, MacGruder's and Rodman's seem to have bumped the cost of a four pack up by at least $4 to $5.
yeah $14.99 at Magruders - holy shit!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 09:53:30 am
$28.99 plus lower sales tax at Total Wine.

Still way more than I'm paying for a bottle of beer.

Lower prices was one of the reasons I switched from wine to beer in the first place.


Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 09:25:05 am
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 08:58:23 am
Founders Harvest Ale is a huge disappointment this year - ABV is up and hops have been dialed back, at least to my palate

And extremely overpriced, MacGruder's and Rodman's seem to have bumped the cost of a four pack up by at least $4 to $5.
and speaking of overpriced have folks seen the prices on those new Goose Island wild ales??!! Gillian is $30+
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 31, 2013, 10:05:37 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 09:53:30 am

Lower prices was one of the reasons I switched from wine to beer in the first place.


not taste...but price.
Thunderbird is economically priced
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 10:08:31 am
What I mean is I can get a world class bottle of beer for $10 a bomber or less, but $10 only buys me a cheapish bottle of wine.

Quote from: Sidehatch on October 31, 2013, 10:05:37 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 09:53:30 am

Lower prices was one of the reasons I switched from wine to beer in the first place.


not taste...but price.
Thunderbird is economically priced
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 31, 2013, 10:14:07 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 09:51:09 am
Move to Fairfax County.

$9.99/four pack and lower sales tax at Total Wine.

Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 09:24:17 am
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 08:58:23 am
Founders Harvest Ale is a huge disappointment this year - ABV is up and hops have been dialed back, at least to my palate

And extremely overpriced, MacGruder's and Rodman's seem to have bumped the cost of a four pack up by at least $4 to $5.
yeah $14.99 at Magruders - holy shit!

I just think that's the store being pricks, has nothing to do with the county. That's roughly what the prices were last year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 10:56:50 am
Founders Breakfast Stout is $9.99/four pack at my Springfield, VA Whole Foods.

It was $13.99/four pack at the Foggy Bottom Whole Foods when I checked.




Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 10:14:07 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 09:51:09 am
Move to Fairfax County.

$9.99/four pack and lower sales tax at Total Wine.

Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 09:24:17 am
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: brennser on October 31, 2013, 08:58:23 am
Founders Harvest Ale is a huge disappointment this year - ABV is up and hops have been dialed back, at least to my palate

And extremely overpriced, MacGruder's and Rodman's seem to have bumped the cost of a four pack up by at least $4 to $5.
yeah $14.99 at Magruders - holy shit!

I just think that's the store being pricks, has nothing to do with the county. That's roughly what the prices were last year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 31, 2013, 11:43:14 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 10:56:50 am
Founders Breakfast Stout is $9.99/four pack at my Springfield, VA Whole Foods.

It was $13.99/four pack at the Foggy Bottom Whole Foods when I checked.


Just wait until it hits Maryland...I bet you could pick it up for over $20.00!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 31, 2013, 11:46:53 am
Quote from: grateful on October 31, 2013, 11:43:14 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 10:56:50 am
Founders Breakfast Stout is $9.99/four pack at my Springfield, VA Whole Foods.

It was $13.99/four pack at the Foggy Bottom Whole Foods when I checked.


Just wait until it hits Maryland...I bet you could pick it up for over $20.00!

I still haven't seen Founders anywhere in MD. Has it officially started selling in MD yet?

I also picked up a bomber of that Dogfish Head's American Beauty...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on October 31, 2013, 11:47:59 am
Quote from: grateful on October 31, 2013, 11:43:14 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 10:56:50 am
Founders Breakfast Stout is $9.99/four pack at my Springfield, VA Whole Foods.

It was $13.99/four pack at the Foggy Bottom Whole Foods when I checked.


Just wait until it hits Maryland...I bet you could pick it up for over $20.00!

$30 if you live in MoCo!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 31, 2013, 11:49:50 am
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 11:46:53 am
I still haven't seen Founders anywhere in MD. Has it officially started selling in MD yet?

I also picked up a bomber of that Dogfish Head's American Beauty...

Founders expansion to Maryland was supposedly halted due to the government shutdown...So I assume that means it is now imminent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 31, 2013, 12:27:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 11:46:53 am
Quote from: grateful on October 31, 2013, 11:43:14 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 10:56:50 am
Founders Breakfast Stout is $9.99/four pack at my Springfield, VA Whole Foods.

It was $13.99/four pack at the Foggy Bottom Whole Foods when I checked.


Just wait until it hits Maryland...I bet you could pick it up for over $20.00!

I still haven't seen Founders anywhere in MD. Has it officially started selling in MD yet?

I also picked up a bomber of that Dogfish Head's American Beauty...

Can you taste the granola?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 12:35:28 pm
If the government is who is holding them up, your assumption is probably wrong!

Quote from: grateful on October 31, 2013, 11:49:50 am
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 11:46:53 am
I still haven't seen Founders anywhere in MD. Has it officially started selling in MD yet?

I also picked up a bomber of that Dogfish Head's American Beauty...

Founders expansion to Maryland was supposedly halted due to the government shutdown...So I assume that means it is now imminent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 31, 2013, 01:06:07 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 31, 2013, 12:27:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 11:46:53 am
Quote from: grateful on October 31, 2013, 11:43:14 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 10:56:50 am
Founders Breakfast Stout is $9.99/four pack at my Springfield, VA Whole Foods.

It was $13.99/four pack at the Foggy Bottom Whole Foods when I checked.


Just wait until it hits Maryland...I bet you could pick it up for over $20.00!

I still haven't seen Founders anywhere in MD. Has it officially started selling in MD yet?

I also picked up a bomber of that Dogfish Head's American Beauty...

Can you taste the granola?

We shall see!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 01:15:19 pm
interesting...Boulevard Bourbon Barrel Quad is $8.99 at Total Wine in MD and $12.99 at Total Wine in VA. (I got one for $9.99 at Whole Foods in DC).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:19:50 pm
In Bev's profit is up 20 percent this quarter and revenue up too.  I am glad I don't listen to you guys about beer.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 01:25:14 pm
We're beer lovers not businessmen.

Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:19:50 pm
In Bev's profit is up 20 percent this quarter and revenue up too.  I am glad I don't listen to you guys about beer.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 31, 2013, 01:35:27 pm
Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:19:50 pm
In Bev's profit is up 20 percent this quarter and revenue up too.  I am glad I don't listen to you guys about beer.   

I'm glad no one listens to you about anything.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:41:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 01:35:27 pm
Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:19:50 pm
In Bev's profit is up 20 percent this quarter and revenue up too.  I am glad I don't listen to you guys about beer.   

I'm glad no one listens to you about anything.

Yeah no one listens to logic.  It used to frustrate me but now I use it to my advantage.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 01, 2013, 10:56:54 am
Sour ale night at Church Key last night.  Sampled a few then was bowled over by DC Brau's  Alpha Domina Mellis DIPA.  Wow!!!  I've always been a big proponent of Bell's Hopslam.  However, it has met its match with this honey-fermented brew.  Anyone know any place else that taps it around dc?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 11:56:24 am
I had it at Churchkey as well last Saturday (see previous page of this thread). Very good stuff.

They has it on draft at Whole Foods in Fairfax on Sunday, with growler fills. It disappeared in a few hours. Surprised they still have it at Churchkey, maybe they got multiple kegs.



Quote from: Bagley on November 01, 2013, 10:56:54 am
Sour ale night at Church Key last night.  Sampled a few then was bowled over by DC Brau's  Alpha Domina Mellis DIPA.  Wow!!!  I've always been a big proponent of Bell's Hopslam.  However, it has met its match with this honey-fermented brew.  Anyone know any place else that taps it around dc?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 01, 2013, 11:57:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 11:56:24 am
Surprised they still have it at Churchkey, maybe they got multiple kegs.
hope there is some left as I was going to swing by tonight to sample
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 01, 2013, 01:16:32 pm
Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:41:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 01:35:27 pm
Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:19:50 pm
In Bev's profit is up 20 percent this quarter and revenue up too.  I am glad I don't listen to you guys about beer.   

I'm glad no one listens to you about anything.

Yeah no one listens to logic.  It used to frustrate me but now I use it to my advantage.

breaking news: stocks fluctuate.

other breaking news: nobody gives a shit about your investment and you sound like an asshole posting about it constantly.

even more breaking news: drink all the inbev you want. seriously. stay away from the good beer. more for us.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 01:34:13 pm
I bet my wife's Whole Foods stock is a better bet than InBev. Please buy your InBev beer at Whole Foods.

Oh wait, the nanny state of Maryland doesn't allow beer sales in supermarkets. Stupid Maryland.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 01, 2013, 01:43:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 01:35:27 pm
Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:19:50 pm
In Bev's profit is up 20 percent this quarter and revenue up too.  I am glad I don't listen to you guys about beer.   

I'm glad no one listens to you about anything.

POTW!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 01, 2013, 02:56:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 01:34:13 pm
I bet my wife's Whole Foods stock is a better bet than InBev. Please buy your InBev beer at Whole Foods.

Oh wait, the nanny state of Maryland doesn't allow beer sales in supermarkets. Stupid Maryland.

Yeah and finding liquor anywhere in Virginia is next to impossible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 01, 2013, 02:57:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 01, 2013, 01:16:32 pm
Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:41:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 01:35:27 pm
Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:19:50 pm
In Bev's profit is up 20 percent this quarter and revenue up too.  I am glad I don't listen to you guys about beer.   

I'm glad no one listens to you about anything.

Yeah no one listens to logic.  It used to frustrate me but now I use it to my advantage.

breaking news: stocks fluctuate.

other breaking news: nobody gives a shit about your investment and you sound like an asshole posting about it constantly.

even more breaking news: drink all the inbev you want. seriously. stay away from the good beer. more for us.

Uh there is pretty much an unlimited supply of beer.  I drink Hoegarden, Goose Island and Leffe those are good Inbev products.  What does revenue growth and income growth have to do with the price of stock flucuating?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 01, 2013, 03:46:56 pm
for those not attending tomorrow's bottle share party, here's a very respectable alternative.

Novemberfest at Rustico: You Won't Believe the Beer Selection
Outdoor festival will run from noon to 5 p.m. Saturday, Nov. 2.
http://delray.patch.com/groups/weekend-planner/p/novemberfest-at-rustico-you-wont-believe-the-beer-selection


The Neighborhood Restaurant Group is hosting a smaller version of its Snallygaster beer festival Saturday, Nov. 2 outside Rustico on Slaters Lane in Alexandria.

Novemberfest, which will run from noon to 5 p.m., will feature more than 50 stouts, porters, hopped IPAs, pumpkin ales and much more selected by NRG beer maestro Greg Engert.

Admission is $5 at the door and it includes a Novemberfest can koozie while supplies last.

Like all NRG festivals, tickets will be needed to purchase beer and food. Tickets will be available for $1 apiece. Beers will range from six to eight tickets for full 14-oz. pours and three to four tickets for most 6-oz. tasters.

Food will range from three to eight tickets. 

A glace at the growing beer and food menus:

Novemberfest Draft Menu

    DC Brau Alpha Domina Mellis Imperial IPA
    Saucony Creek Captain Pumpkin's Maple Mistress
    Bluejacket, 10 Barrel & Stone Brewing Suede Imperial Porter
    Stone Enjoy By IPA 11-12-13
    Perennial Heart of Gold Wheatwine
    Southern Tier Pumking
    The Bruery Oude Tart
    The Bruery Autumn Maple
    Maine Beer Co. MO Pale Ale
    Schlafly Pumpkin Ale
    Schlafly Tasmanian IPA
    Smuttynose Straw-Barb Short Weisse
    De Dolle Arabier
    BFM Cuvee Alex Le Rouge Imperial Stout
    't Smisje Kerst
    Del Ducato Special Verdi Stout 200th Birthday Version (Whiskey Barrel-Aged Chili Stout)
    Timmermans Pumpkin Lambicus
    Schlenkerla Oak Smoke
    Prof. Fritz Briem 1809 Berliner Weisse
    Blue Mountain Long Winter's Nap
    Terrapin & Schmaltz Reunion 2013 Imperial Brown Ale
    Parkway Raven's Roost Baltic Porter
    Allagash Four
    Allagash Hugh Malone
    Starr Hill Cryptical Imperial Stout
    Goose Island Big John Imperial Stout
    Sierra Nevada Northern Hemisphere Harvest Ale
    Anchor Christmas Ale
    Ommegang Take the Black Belgian Stout (Game of Thrones Beer #2)
    Flying Dog Single Hop Imperial IPA: Simcoe
    New Belgium Accumulation White IPA
    Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout
    Sly Fox Pikeland Pils
    Avery The Reverend Quadrupel
    Bear Republic Café Racer 15 Imperial IPA
    Bell's Hopsolution Imperial IPA
    De Ranke Saison de Dottignies
    Dogfish Head Kvasir
    Dogfish Head Olde School Barleywine
    Duck-Rabbit Rabid Duck Imperial Stout
    Evolution Incubator #2
    Nøgne Ø Imperial Stout
    Victory 4 Hop Bock
    Founders Harvest Ale
    Great Divide Fresh Hop Pale Ale

On Cask

    Thornbridge Raven Black IPA
    Heavy Seas Loose Cannon IPA
    Oliver's Bishop's Breakfast Oatmeal Stout
    Lost Rhino Face Plant IPA
    Schlafly Tasmanian IPA 

Ciders

    Original Sin Apple Cider
    Bold Rock Draft Apple Cider

Novemberfest Food Menu

    Pretzels with Beer Cheese and Mustard
    Grilled Warshore Oysters with Sofritto or Homemade Hot Sauce Fries (Poutine $1 extra, Beer cheese sauce $1 extra)
    Pulled Pork Sandwich with a Carolina BBQ Sauce & Bread & Butter Pickles
    Smoked Turkey Legs
    Homemade Chili and Vegetarian Chili with Shredded Cheddar and Onions
    Buzz Bakery Chocolate Chip Cookies & Double Choco Brownies
    Red Apron Knockwurst with Mustard and Homemade Sauerkraut
    Red Apron Hot Dogs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 01, 2013, 04:09:37 pm
Quote from: atomic on November 01, 2013, 02:57:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 01, 2013, 01:16:32 pm
Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:41:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2013, 01:35:27 pm
Quote from: atomic on October 31, 2013, 01:19:50 pm
In Bev's profit is up 20 percent this quarter and revenue up too.  I am glad I don't listen to you guys about beer.   

I'm glad no one listens to you about anything.

Yeah no one listens to logic.  It used to frustrate me but now I use it to my advantage.

breaking news: stocks fluctuate.

other breaking news: nobody gives a shit about your investment and you sound like an asshole posting about it constantly.

even more breaking news: drink all the inbev you want. seriously. stay away from the good beer. more for us.

Uh there is pretty much an unlimited supply of beer.  I drink Hoegarden, Goose Island and Leffe those are good Inbev products.  What does revenue growth and income growth have to do with the price of stock flucuating?

your definition of "good" is limited to three brands?

and, nobody gives a shit about revenue growth, profit gains, or the stock price for inbev.  i thought you were talking again about your modest stock increase.  you bought a stable stock. updating us on anything related to it is pointless. it's the equivalent of keeping us up-to-date on the status of paint drying.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 04:12:43 pm
Nice list, but the bottle share will probably have a bigger and better list.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 01, 2013, 03:46:56 pm
for those not attending tomorrow's bottle share party, here's a very respectable alternative.

Novemberfest at Rustico: You Won't Believe the Beer Selection
Outdoor festival will run from noon to 5 p.m. Saturday, Nov. 2.
http://delray.patch.com/groups/weekend-planner/p/novemberfest-at-rustico-you-wont-believe-the-beer-selection


The Neighborhood Restaurant Group is hosting a smaller version of its Snallygaster beer festival Saturday, Nov. 2 outside Rustico on Slaters Lane in Alexandria.

Novemberfest, which will run from noon to 5 p.m., will feature more than 50 stouts, porters, hopped IPAs, pumpkin ales and much more selected by NRG beer maestro Greg Engert.

Admission is $5 at the door and it includes a Novemberfest can koozie while supplies last.

Like all NRG festivals, tickets will be needed to purchase beer and food. Tickets will be available for $1 apiece. Beers will range from six to eight tickets for full 14-oz. pours and three to four tickets for most 6-oz. tasters.

Food will range from three to eight tickets. 

A glace at the growing beer and food menus:

Novemberfest Draft Menu

    DC Brau Alpha Domina Mellis Imperial IPA
    Saucony Creek Captain Pumpkin's Maple Mistress
    Bluejacket, 10 Barrel & Stone Brewing Suede Imperial Porter
    Stone Enjoy By IPA 11-12-13
    Perennial Heart of Gold Wheatwine
    Southern Tier Pumking
    The Bruery Oude Tart
    The Bruery Autumn Maple
    Maine Beer Co. MO Pale Ale
    Schlafly Pumpkin Ale
    Schlafly Tasmanian IPA
    Smuttynose Straw-Barb Short Weisse
    De Dolle Arabier
    BFM Cuvee Alex Le Rouge Imperial Stout
    't Smisje Kerst
    Del Ducato Special Verdi Stout 200th Birthday Version (Whiskey Barrel-Aged Chili Stout)
    Timmermans Pumpkin Lambicus
    Schlenkerla Oak Smoke
    Prof. Fritz Briem 1809 Berliner Weisse
    Blue Mountain Long Winter's Nap
    Terrapin & Schmaltz Reunion 2013 Imperial Brown Ale
    Parkway Raven's Roost Baltic Porter
    Allagash Four
    Allagash Hugh Malone
    Starr Hill Cryptical Imperial Stout
    Goose Island Big John Imperial Stout
    Sierra Nevada Northern Hemisphere Harvest Ale
    Anchor Christmas Ale
    Ommegang Take the Black Belgian Stout (Game of Thrones Beer #2)
    Flying Dog Single Hop Imperial IPA: Simcoe
    New Belgium Accumulation White IPA
    Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout
    Sly Fox Pikeland Pils
    Avery The Reverend Quadrupel
    Bear Republic Café Racer 15 Imperial IPA
    Bell's Hopsolution Imperial IPA
    De Ranke Saison de Dottignies
    Dogfish Head Kvasir
    Dogfish Head Olde School Barleywine
    Duck-Rabbit Rabid Duck Imperial Stout
    Evolution Incubator #2
    Nøgne Ø Imperial Stout
    Victory 4 Hop Bock
    Founders Harvest Ale
    Great Divide Fresh Hop Pale Ale

On Cask

    Thornbridge Raven Black IPA
    Heavy Seas Loose Cannon IPA
    Oliver's Bishop's Breakfast Oatmeal Stout
    Lost Rhino Face Plant IPA
    Schlafly Tasmanian IPA 

Ciders

    Original Sin Apple Cider
    Bold Rock Draft Apple Cider

Novemberfest Food Menu

    Pretzels with Beer Cheese and Mustard
    Grilled Warshore Oysters with Sofritto or Homemade Hot Sauce Fries (Poutine $1 extra, Beer cheese sauce $1 extra)
    Pulled Pork Sandwich with a Carolina BBQ Sauce & Bread & Butter Pickles
    Smoked Turkey Legs
    Homemade Chili and Vegetarian Chili with Shredded Cheddar and Onions
    Buzz Bakery Chocolate Chip Cookies & Double Choco Brownies
    Red Apron Knockwurst with Mustard and Homemade Sauerkraut
    Red Apron Hot Dogs

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 01, 2013, 04:32:05 pm
I will be uploading my stock portfolio report a bit later in the day.... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 01, 2013, 04:39:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 04, 2013, 08:55:52 pm
in case you are seriously considering investing on them, don't.  their market share is shrinking domestically and their international expansion plans aren't meeting expectations.  their stock price is dependent on growth and they ain't got none.


Quote from: stevewizzle on November 01, 2013, 04:09:37 pm

and, nobody gives a shit about revenue growth, profit gains, or the stock price for inbev.  i thought you were talking again about your modest stock increase.  you bought a stable stock. updating us on anything related to it is pointless. it's the equivalent of keeping us up-to-date on the status of paint drying.   

I was just responding to someone who told me not to invest.  Just replying to them.  If you aren't  interested do not reply. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 02, 2013, 11:40:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 01:15:19 pm
interesting...Boulevard Bourbon Barrel Quad is $8.99 at Total Wine in MD and $12.99 at Total Wine in VA. (I got one for $9.99 at Whole Foods in DC).

in case you're still looking for some: i picked up three bottles yesterday at foggy bottom WF, $9.99.  they just got a shipment in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 03, 2013, 08:52:49 pm
There are ABC stores selling liqour in practically every stripmall.

Quote from: atomic on November 01, 2013, 02:56:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 01:34:13 pm
I bet my wife's Whole Foods stock is a better bet than InBev. Please buy your InBev beer at Whole Foods.

Oh wait, the nanny state of Maryland doesn't allow beer sales in supermarkets. Stupid Maryland.

Yeah and finding liquor anywhere in Virginia is next to impossible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 03, 2013, 08:55:45 pm
Best beer purchase of the weekend: a 12 oz bottle of Troegs Hopback Amber mispriced with a sticker on it for 10 cents. They gave it to me for that price.

Second best beer purchase of the weekend: 32 oz growler of Alpha Domina Mellis for $7. (Fairfax WHole Foods).

Quote from: Bagley on November 01, 2013, 10:56:54 am
Sour ale night at Church Key last night.  Sampled a few then was bowled over by DC Brau's  Alpha Domina Mellis DIPA.  Wow!!!  I've always been a big proponent of Bell's Hopslam.  However, it has met its match with this honey-fermented brew.  Anyone know any place else that taps it around dc?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2013, 02:53:58 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on November 01, 2013, 11:57:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 11:56:24 am
Surprised they still have it at Churchkey, maybe they got multiple kegs.
hope there is some left as I was going to swing by tonight to sample
Well the Alpha Domina Mellis was very good and still on tap Friday night.  although at $9 for what didn't even look like 12oz.  I think the Wholefoods growler is the way to go. 
Also got a bomber of Suede this weekend....very tasty
(http://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/10-Barrel-Bluejacket-Stone-Suede-Imperial-Porter.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 04, 2013, 03:23:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 02, 2013, 11:40:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2013, 01:15:19 pm
interesting...Boulevard Bourbon Barrel Quad is $8.99 at Total Wine in MD and $12.99 at Total Wine in VA. (I got one for $9.99 at Whole Foods in DC).

in case you're still looking for some: i picked up three bottles yesterday at foggy bottom WF, $9.99.  they just got a shipment in.

went back to WF over lunch to grab another pair of Quads, last two they had on the shelf (might be more in the back, didn't ask).  got to the register and was informed they were $13.99.  i told the cashier that i paid $9.99 just 3 days ago and she shrugged "must have been on sale."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 05, 2013, 02:31:02 pm
well, holy shit...

http://www.alchemistbeer.com/a-difficult-decision/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 02:39:23 pm
just saw that on DCHB's FB page... dammit.  i might be going to VT for thanksgiving.  i was hoping to drop by.  guess i'll have to get some from a retail location and hope that they don't charge too much.  and that they have a whole case (or two) to sell.  dammit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on November 05, 2013, 02:39:31 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on November 04, 2013, 02:53:58 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on November 01, 2013, 11:57:25 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 11:56:24 am
Surprised they still have it at Churchkey, maybe they got multiple kegs.
hope there is some left as I was going to swing by tonight to sample
Well the Alpha Domina Mellis was very good and still on tap Friday night.  although at $9 for what didn't even look like 12oz.  I think the Wholefoods growler is the way to go. 
Also got a bomber of Suede this weekend....very tasty
(http://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/10-Barrel-Bluejacket-Stone-Suede-Imperial-Porter.png)

that looks DELICIOUS.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 05, 2013, 02:47:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 02:39:23 pm
just saw that on DCHB's FB page... dammit.  i might be going to VT for thanksgiving.  i was hoping to drop by.  guess i'll have to get some from a retail location and hope that they don't charge too much.  and that they have a whole case (or two) to sell.  dammit.

Unfortunately, my guess is you'll never be able to get more than a few four packs unless you have some sort of connection. Sucks.

I had two cases lined up for Xmas. blah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 05, 2013, 03:56:15 pm
that, is what, they get, for limitations.  go big or get out.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t7KHa4n63EI/UEz1Iiz86sI/AAAAAAAAAHE/lShcYln7WzM/s500/Snooki%2520wahhh.gif)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 05, 2013, 04:14:53 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on November 04, 2013, 02:53:58 pm
Also got a bomber of Suede this weekend....very tasty

I thoroughly enjoyed the Suede I had.  It's kinda like the other bluejacket beers in that it isn't overpowering at all but very enjoyable.

Doesn't at all taste like a high octane beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 05, 2013, 04:21:30 pm
I take back my criticism of The Truth... was drinking it out of a bottle most of the weekend and it was delicious. Way better than the couple of times I had it on draft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 05:21:59 pm
jen kimmich's response in the comments:

"Retailers will be receiving much more beer so you should be able to access Heady easily. You should be able to purchase a full case from our larger retailers. As always, we do our best to encourage suggested retail pricing- the price should be in the $13-$15. "
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 05, 2013, 05:28:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 05:21:59 pm
jen kimmich's response in the comments:

"Retailers will be receiving much more beer so you should be able to access Heady easily. You should be able to purchase a full case from our larger retailers. As always, we do our best to encourage suggested retail pricing- the price should be in the $13-$15. "

So many issues with that... one, they can't control the price and once retailers realize the demand (not that they don't already know), they'll be upping their prices.

Also, retailers also have the ability to put a limit on the amount purchased. At least prior to the 15th of November, if you planned your trip right to VT, you were guaranteed to come home with topper, now a trip to VT might get you a four pack or two.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 05:40:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 05, 2013, 05:28:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 05:21:59 pm
jen kimmich's response in the comments:

"Retailers will be receiving much more beer so you should be able to access Heady easily. You should be able to purchase a full case from our larger retailers. As always, we do our best to encourage suggested retail pricing- the price should be in the $13-$15. "

So many issues with that... one, they can't control the price and once retailers realize the demand (not that they don't already know), they'll be upping their prices.

Also, retailers also have the ability to put a limit on the amount purchased. At least prior to the 15th of November, if you planned your trip right to VT, you were guaranteed to come home with topper, now a trip to VT might get you a four pack or two.

i don't know what VT distribution laws are, but it might be possible for The Alchemist to withhold stock from gougers.  The Alchemist has made a point of being a "Vermont brewery for Vermonters", i don't think they'll put up with gouging.

something to keep in mind is that some of these retailers are off the beaten path.  even the big cities sell to locals, and retailers don't want to piss off their main clientele.  we make a big deal about the HT that's leaving the state, but a lot is consumed by locals.  it's nice that lines of immigrants snap up the stuff on weekends at the brewery, but now that the stock is diffused across the state retailers gotta be careful to not kill the goose. 

the trick is going to be finding those out-of-the-way retailers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 05, 2013, 06:29:53 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 05:40:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 05, 2013, 05:28:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 05:21:59 pm
jen kimmich's response in the comments:

"Retailers will be receiving much more beer so you should be able to access Heady easily. You should be able to purchase a full case from our larger retailers. As always, we do our best to encourage suggested retail pricing- the price should be in the $13-$15. "

So many issues with that... one, they can't control the price and once retailers realize the demand (not that they don't already know), they'll be upping their prices.

Also, retailers also have the ability to put a limit on the amount purchased. At least prior to the 15th of November, if you planned your trip right to VT, you were guaranteed to come home with topper, now a trip to VT might get you a four pack or two.

i don't know what VT distribution laws are, but it might be possible for The Alchemist to withhold stock from gougers.  The Alchemist has made a point of being a "Vermont brewery for Vermonters", i don't think they'll put up with gouging.

something to keep in mind is that some of these retailers are off the beaten path.  even the big cities sell to locals, and retailers don't want to piss off their main clientele.  we make a big deal about the HT that's leaving the state, but a lot is consumed by locals.  it's nice that lines of immigrants snap up the stuff on weekends at the brewery, but now that the stock is diffused across the state retailers gotta be careful to not kill the goose. 

the trick is going to be finding those out-of-the-way retailers.

If they are  selling so much they should borrow money to increase production.  Interest rates are at all time lows.  Build a huge plant and start selling the stuff for real.  Although I guess the appeal of it is that is hard to get. If everyone can get it easily they probably won't want it as much.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 06, 2013, 08:21:53 am
Haven't had it on draft yet. But yes, bottles are excellent. Not quite as good as DirtWolf, but I'm definitely excited to have those two produced regionally.

Went to Matchbox for lunch on Monday, and our server announced that Beer X had been replaced by "Victory Dirty Wolf", so I got the have my first DirtWolf on draft, and was extremely pleased.

Quote from: Yada on November 05, 2013, 04:21:30 pm
I take back my criticism of The Truth... was drinking it out of a bottle most of the weekend and it was delicious. Way better than the couple of times I had it on draft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 06, 2013, 08:45:22 am
Quote from: atomic on November 05, 2013, 06:29:53 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 05:40:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 05, 2013, 05:28:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 05, 2013, 05:21:59 pm
jen kimmich's response in the comments:

"Retailers will be receiving much more beer so you should be able to access Heady easily. You should be able to purchase a full case from our larger retailers. As always, we do our best to encourage suggested retail pricing- the price should be in the $13-$15. "

So many issues with that... one, they can't control the price and once retailers realize the demand (not that they don't already know), they'll be upping their prices.

Also, retailers also have the ability to put a limit on the amount purchased. At least prior to the 15th of November, if you planned your trip right to VT, you were guaranteed to come home with topper, now a trip to VT might get you a four pack or two.

i don't know what VT distribution laws are, but it might be possible for The Alchemist to withhold stock from gougers.  The Alchemist has made a point of being a "Vermont brewery for Vermonters", i don't think they'll put up with gouging.

something to keep in mind is that some of these retailers are off the beaten path.  even the big cities sell to locals, and retailers don't want to piss off their main clientele.  we make a big deal about the HT that's leaving the state, but a lot is consumed by locals.  it's nice that lines of immigrants snap up the stuff on weekends at the brewery, but now that the stock is diffused across the state retailers gotta be careful to not kill the goose. 

the trick is going to be finding those out-of-the-way retailers.

If they are  selling so much they should borrow money to increase production.  Interest rates are at all time lows.  Build a huge plant and start selling the stuff for real.  Although I guess the appeal of it is that is hard to get. If everyone can get it easily they probably won't want it as much.   


Thank you for your contribution to this thread and topic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 06, 2013, 10:43:11 am
i just want to remind folks that while heady topper is very good, there are also other excellent, widely available beers out there.

such as leffe blonde, hoegaarden, goose island ipa, etc...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 06, 2013, 12:29:53 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 06, 2013, 10:43:11 am
i just want to remind folks that while heady topper is very good, there are also other excellent, widely available beers out there.

such as leffe blonde, hoegaarden, goose island ipa, etc...

Those don't seem like the same thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 06, 2013, 01:10:25 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 06, 2013, 08:21:53 am
my first DirtWolf on draft, and was extremely pleased.
Had a Dirtwolf at Lost Dog and thought it was excellent too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 06, 2013, 03:19:40 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 06, 2013, 10:43:11 am
i just want to remind folks that while heady topper is very good, there are also other excellent, widely available beers out there.

such as leffe blonde, hoegaarden, goose island ipa, etc...

I don't like goose island IPA's.  I just mentioned those as good In Bev beers. 

I am done with American Beers anyway.  Like American food I just don't see the appeal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 06, 2013, 05:06:29 pm
Founders Backwoods Bastard is out now. Get it while you can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 06, 2013, 05:49:59 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 06, 2013, 05:06:29 pm
Founders Backwoods Bastard is out now. Get it while you can.

if anyone snags an extra 4-pack, and would like something from WA, let me know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2013, 06:37:00 pm
steve, i gotcha.  let's tawk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2013, 06:38:20 pm
update on The Alchemist situation:

"The couple plan to re-open the retail outlet as soon as possible and is actively looking for other locations in Waterbury, Kimmich said. "

;D

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/vt-beers-fans-trouble-neighbors-20804191
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 06, 2013, 07:29:11 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 06, 2013, 06:38:20 pm
update on The Alchemist situation:

"The couple plan to re-open the retail outlet as soon as possible and is actively looking for other locations in Waterbury, Kimmich said. "

;D

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/vt-beers-fans-trouble-neighbors-20804191

"The busier they've gotten, the more chaotic my life has gotten," she said in an interview on her front porch. Beer lovers can be more boisterous than considerate at times. The driveway at the Kimmichs' business is easy to miss, and Kinsell said there was one half-hour period last summer when 26 people turned around in her driveway.

homeowners are the worst. and the people who put a mic infront of their face and let them be a miserable fuck to the rest of the world are also the worst.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 06, 2013, 07:29:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 06, 2013, 06:37:00 pm
steve, i gotcha.  let's tawk.


u da man.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 07, 2013, 04:12:48 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 01:34:13 pm
I bet my wife's Whole Foods stock is a better bet than InBev. Please buy your InBev beer at Whole Foods.

Oh wait, the nanny state of Maryland doesn't allow beer sales in supermarkets. Stupid Maryland.

Whole Foods is down 11 percent today. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 07, 2013, 06:17:25 pm
Berger Cookie Chocolate Stout  (http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/music/midnight-sun-blog/bal-full-tilt-brewing-to-release-berger-cookie-chocolate-stout,0,4837558.story)

Mmmm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 07, 2013, 06:26:56 pm
DC has a 10% tax on beer?!?  guess i never looked closely at my receipts before...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 07, 2013, 07:27:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 07, 2013, 06:26:56 pm
DC has a 10% tax on beer?!?  guess i never looked closely at my receipts before...

Restaurant Tax in DC is 10 percent I believe.   I was always shocked by this the year I worked in DC. But luckily it was in the .dot com era and I just expensed my lunches.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 07, 2013, 08:05:47 pm
What's the deal with Dogfish dropping Raison D'Etre? Always seemed like a good beer to me. Though honestly haven't bought any in a long time....maybe that's why they are dropping it.  Maybe I'll horde one last six pack while they are still around. Also dropping the Chicory Stout, no great loss there imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 07, 2013, 09:33:59 pm
Here's a beer event in DC for atomic to come and pay 10% tax on.

his Saturday, ChurchKey is celebrating 12 direct-from-Germany brews dispensed via rubber-clad gravity kegs! As part of the feature, we will have 4 offerings from Klosterbrauerei Weißenohe, including the much-revered Benediktiner Zwickel, a beautiful unfiltered German Pilsener and a rare Landbier in Altfränkisch Klosterbier. We'll also have 4 beers from Mahr's Bräu including the highly sought-after unfiltered Ungespundet Helles Lager!

And we will be pouring beers from breweries that hardly ever--if ever--send beer to the USA: Lowenbrau's Buttenheim Kellerbier, Kraus Hell, Bayer Theinheim Landbier, & Monchsambacher Unfiltered Lagerbier!

Come discover the beautiful and delicately-nuanced lagers of Franconia, Germany...each unfiltered, unpasteurized and naturally dispensed from traditional rubber-clad kegs...this is a unique opportunity you will not want to miss!

There is no admission fee for this event, and all Gravity Keg pours will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours.

The Full Franconian Gravity Keg List:
Weißenohe Benediktiner Zwickel
Weißenohe Altfränkisch Klosterbier
Weißenohe Bioland
Weißenohe Monk's Christkindl
Mahr's Ungespundet
Mahr's Pils
Mahr's Hell
Mahr's Bockbier
Lowenbrau Buttenheim Kellerbier
Brauerei Kruas Hell
Bayer Landbier
Monchsambacher Unfiletered Lager
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 07, 2013, 09:37:31 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 07, 2013, 08:05:47 pm
What's the deal with Dogfish dropping Raison D'Etre? Always seemed like a good beer to me. Though honestly haven't bought any in a long time....maybe that's why they are dropping it.  Maybe I'll horde one last six pack while they are still around. Also dropping the Chicory Stout, no great loss there imo.

weird.  i always liked raison d'etre, and it was my go-to beer on the floor of 9:30.

upstairs?  gots to be the duchesse.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2013, 12:07:30 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 07, 2013, 09:37:31 pm
upstairs?  gots to be the duchesse.  

i tried the duchesse when it first appeared upstairs.  i wasn't into sours at the time, the bartender warned me about what to expect... and i didn't like.  i def need to try it again next time i'm at the club.  i have since acquired a taste for certain sours.  based on what i've read, the duchesse is very acetic and is a polarizing beer even among sour lovers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2013, 12:09:16 am
tomorrow, friday nov 8, is international stout day!

http://www.stoutday.com/

throw one in the fridge now, so you can take it out when you get home and it'll be the perfect temp by the time you have dinner ;D  who's busting out what?  i have some Stone IRS that i've been aging for a year and a half, sounds like a good excuse to bust it out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 08, 2013, 07:12:14 am
What do y'll think of Rodenbach Grand Cru? I think I read that it was one of the standard bearers among Belgian sours. My wife picked one up downtown (unavailable in VA) but we haven't tried it yet.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 08, 2013, 12:07:30 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 07, 2013, 09:37:31 pm
upstairs?  gots to be the duchesse.  

i tried the duchesse when it first appeared upstairs.  i wasn't into sours at the time, the bartender warned me about what to expect... and i didn't like.  i def need to try it again next time i'm at the club.  i have since acquired a taste for certain sours.  based on what i've read, the duchesse is very acetic and is a polarizing beer even among sour lovers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 08, 2013, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 08, 2013, 07:12:14 am
What do y'll think of Rodenbach Grand Cru? I think I read that it was one of the standard bearers among Belgian sours. My wife picked one up downtown (unavailable in VA) but we haven't tried it yet.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 08, 2013, 12:07:30 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 07, 2013, 09:37:31 pm
upstairs?  gots to be the duchesse.  

i tried the duchesse when it first appeared upstairs.  i wasn't into sours at the time, the bartender warned me about what to expect... and i didn't like.  i def need to try it again next time i'm at the club.  i have since acquired a taste for certain sours.  based on what i've read, the duchesse is very acetic and is a polarizing beer even among sour lovers.

grand cru is indeed a standard bearer, and my go-to sour if i'm craving (mostly due to the price point, but also because it's a damn good beer).

duchesse is more sugary sweet to me, with a light lactic finish. gets much better as it warms up.  i find grand cru more acetic and overall more tart, though it's been a while since i've had either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2013, 12:38:13 pm
Rodenbach GC is another one i need to re-try. 

in general flanders reds aren't my favorite style of sour, they're too "straight vinegar" for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 08, 2013, 01:22:57 pm
still one of my favorites and what kinda turned me on to Sour's a few years back is Monks Café
Flemish red sour
Monk's Cafe (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/48/10482)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2013, 02:04:23 pm
all this talk of sours is entirely inappropriate on International Stout Day.

so late last night i changed plans... tonight's celebration of ISD will be made up of some combination of:
- Leinenkugel Big Eddy RIS, 2011 (surprisingly good)
- Founders Imperial Stout, 2011 (predictably awesome)
- homebrewed chocolate oatmeal stout
- homebrewed belgian imperial stout

i might not get through all of these tonight, but it's nice to know i have the option ;D

i also added a DuClaw Retribution to the cellar today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 08, 2013, 02:15:21 pm
fine, i'll talk stout.

tonight i'll either enjoy a stone espresso RIS, which is one of my favorite beers period (and it's a shame it's only out every other year) or a fremont kentucky dark star (i have half a case just sitting there...).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 10, 2013, 09:25:14 pm
Attention suburbanites: Backwoods Bastard on draft at Fairfax Whole Foods. Single serving or growler.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 11, 2013, 10:55:15 am
Went to Ravens game yesterday.  They have some Ravens Walk outside and a stand had domestic for 4 bucks and imports for 5.  I asked what imports he had and he said "Shock Top, Bud Light Lime, and Twisted Tea".  Anyway inside I got a big can of Sam Adams Boston Lager which was truely terrible.   Orioles sure beat the Ravens on Beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on November 12, 2013, 02:37:34 pm
I went to Bluejacket over the weekend. The space is amazing but the beers were average at best. Debuting with 20+ beers seemed like a bit much. I'm sure over time they'll get better, but right now I don't see a reason to go back just yet. It was also incredibly crowded for 4pm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 12, 2013, 03:25:13 pm
i haven't been to BJ yet, but a friend who has was of the same opinion... some very respectable beers but not much was  mind-blowing.  also said the food was expensive - $16 burger.  can't say that i'm in a hurry to make it down there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 12, 2013, 03:52:48 pm
Has anybody had Hardywood's Gingerbread Stout?

Tentatively planning on daytripping to Richmond for the release party Saturday (as well as other Richmond activities...you know, like egging Julian's house, etc).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 12, 2013, 04:05:35 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 12, 2013, 03:25:13 pm
i haven't been to BJ yet, but a friend who has was of the same opinion... some very respectable beers but not much was  mind-blowing.  also said the food was expensive - $16 burger.  can't say that i'm in a hurry to make it down there.

How do you think he is able to afford his cool hipster wardrobe?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 12, 2013, 04:09:18 pm
Are you talking about Greg Engert, or sweetcell's friend?

If the former, I think he just goes to civil war reenactment surplus stores and gets things on the cheap.

If the latter, he's a great guy but I don't think he had a hipster wardrobe.

Quote from: Shemp on November 12, 2013, 04:05:35 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 12, 2013, 03:25:13 pm
i haven't been to BJ yet, but a friend who has was of the same opinion... some very respectable beers but not much was  mind-blowing.  also said the food was expensive - $16 burger.  can't say that i'm in a hurry to make it down there.

How do you think he is able to afford his cool hipster wardrobe?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 13, 2013, 12:24:27 pm
more on the new brew pub close to the 930:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2013/11/13/first-look-at-right-proper-brewpub-opening-soon/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 13, 2013, 12:29:57 pm
http://www.citizensbrewingco.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 13, 2013, 01:42:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 13, 2013, 12:29:57 pm
http://www.citizensbrewingco.com

"Citizens Brewing Co. is a craft brewery serving European-style lagers, American-style ales, Belgian-inspired beers, sour beers, and barrel-aged beers..."

trying to be everything to everyone much?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 13, 2013, 01:45:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 13, 2013, 01:42:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 13, 2013, 12:29:57 pm
http://www.citizensbrewingco.com

"Citizens Brewing Co. is a craft brewery serving European-style lagers, American-style ales, Belgian-inspired beers, sour beers, and barrel-aged beers..."

trying to be everything to everyone much?

i dont get these places that open up immediately and start souring and barrel-aging beers. takes a while to develop those styles, especially barrel-aging.  first, you need to produce a beer that's good enough to age, then second, you need to find a suitable barrel. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 13, 2013, 01:49:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 08, 2013, 12:07:30 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 07, 2013, 09:37:31 pm
upstairs?  gots to be the duchesse.  

i tried the duchesse when it first appeared upstairs.  i wasn't into sours at the time, the bartender warned me about what to expect... and i didn't like.  i def need to try it again next time i'm at the club.  i have since acquired a taste for certain sours.  based on what i've read, the duchesse is very acetic and is a polarizing beer even among sour lovers.

i had a beer at showbox at the market last night in seattle.  i loved the venue, but i died a little when i got to the bar.  they had one or two okay drafts, a georgetown manny's pale ale and a widmer hefe, but they have not cleaned their lines in maybe an eternity and the beer was absolutely awful. bring me back to nine-thirty, please.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 13, 2013, 05:27:38 pm
The Alchemist hopes to have a replacement retail location operational by Xmas: http://www.alchemistbeer.com/updates/"

so the retail operation is knocked out while i'm in VT over thanksgiving but will return once i'm gone.  great, just great.

(seriously tho, just means i'll have to hunt around and find a store that has some in stock.  hopefully all these shenanigans have scared away the masses...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 13, 2013, 08:15:09 pm
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Quote from: sweetcell on November 13, 2013, 05:27:38 pm
The Alchemist hopes to have a replacement retail location operational by Xmas: http://www.alchemistbeer.com/updates/"

so the retail operation is knocked out while i'm in VT over thanksgiving but will return once i'm gone.  great, just great.

(seriously tho, just means i'll have to hunt around and find a store that has some in stock.  hopefully all these shenanigans have scared away the masses...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 14, 2013, 12:26:05 am
fine, since you seem to lack a decent internet connection:

Quote
Updates
Posted on November 12, 2013

Thank you, thank you, Thank You to all of our loyal supporters, friends and family as we face our newest challenge. We would also like to give a heartfelt thanks to our incredible staff?you have all done an amazing job rising above the nonsense and keeping your chins up.

Last week we made the decision to close our retail shop beginning November 16th.  This decision was unplanned and prompted quickly to mitigate ongoing traffic issues and public access concerns. Each week our retail shop has become busier and more chaotic?too much for our physical location?and demand continues to grow.

We decided to post the closing as soon as we were aware of the situation. Although we did not have a lot of information to share, we understand that consumers and local businesses depend on our retail shop being open and we needed to get the word out.

Since closing last week, we believe we have found a new, larger space for our retail shop in Waterbury Center. The parking is adequate, traffic flow will be better and there is greater visibility for turning onto and off of Route 100. As soon as we confirm all zoning and public access regulations, we will begin working around the clock to get our new shop open as soon as possible.

In the meantime, while we are temporarily closed, we will be sending extra Heady Topper? to our current accounts. Several large retailers will be selling full cases for $75.  We have added two extra delivery trucks for the month. We will replenish accounts to the best of our ability until we sell out of Heady Topper?.  We will have an updated ?Where to Buy? page on our website this week (hopefully by Wednesday). This page will include delivery days for both retailers and restaurants. We will also try to indicate which retailers will be selling full cases.

We hope to open our new shop before the holidays, but have a bit of work to do. Please keep in mind, we have never had a project NOT throw some curves. We will make every effort to open our new location as soon as possible. Until then, we will continue to produce the same amount of Heady Topper? and we will work hard to make it available.
 

Q:  When do you expect your new retail location to open?
A:  Hopefully before Christmas.
 

Q:  Where will I buy Heady Topper? while your retail shop is closed?
A:  At any one of our current authorized retail accounts. All distribution information will be updated this week. We will include delivery days and case price if available. We will also differentiate between retailers and restaurant/bars.
 

Q:  Are you going to increase the price of Heady Topper??
A:  As always, our suggested retail price is $12.99?$14.99/4-pack. We have not increased our wholesale price since we started distributing over two years ago. If it?s overpriced, don?t buy it.
 

Q:  Is my Heady Topper? going to sit in a warehouse for a month before I get it?
A:  Hell no! We will continue to sell and distribute everything we make. Heady goes into our refrigerated truck on the day it is canned. It is delivered that day. Our driver keeps a close and caring eye on Heady Topper? inventory, ensuring it is always sold fresh at our authorized retail locations.


Q: Will you be sending beer to southern Vermont?
A: Sorry, no. We don?t want to expand distribution and then pull back in four weeks. We have been down this road before and it is confusing for our customers.


Q:  What do I do with my new growler?
A:  Hang onto it?we will figure something out. If you don?t want to wait and have no use for it, please return it to us. We will give you your money back. Please keep in mind, we sold those beautiful, stainless steel growlers at our cost of $15.

Q: What are you going to do with the upcoming seasonal beers that were slated for growlers?
A: Our next two seasonals will be available on draft at Waterbury bars/restaurants. We will give more information on these beers when they are ready to be released in the coming weeks.

Q:  Were you bought out by [insert Brewery Name here]?
A:  No.

Q:  Has this all been some kind of sick marketing ploy?
A: Huh?

Thanks again to all of our supporters, friends, family and staff. We will keep you updated as we move along.

Jen & John

so individuals were complaining about the traffic, on the other hand businesses have become dependent on the traffic.  and beer drinkers are going to complain no matter what because there isn't enough beer at the right place at the right time.  poor bastards can't please anyone...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 14, 2013, 10:32:53 am
Pardon my complete ignorance on the topic, but what exactly is the big deal about this Heady Topper beer? Is it basically just another company's Hopslam (in both hoppy-ness and low availability)?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2013, 10:51:10 am
Heady Topper is the one and only beer produced by the Alchemist Cannery in Waterbury, VT. I can honestly say that Heady Topper is the best tasting beer I've ever had. And I've had many beers. I've actually had many Heady Toppers, so it's not like I tried it once and am glorifying the experience.

Many other beer lovers have reached the same conclusion, as it stands at #1 on top beers list as rated by beer advocate users.

http://beeradvocate.com/lists/top

Heady is only available at the brewery in Waterbury and nearby (like within 30 miles) stores and restaurants. Numerous beer geeks drive to Vermont, buy it by the case, bring it home and share with their friends and/or trade with other beer lovers around the world.

Because of it's lack of distribution, Heady is a much tougher find than Hopslam. Hopslam comes out once a year, and you can usually get plenty of it for a week or two in January, as long as you reside in a state where Bell's distributes. Heady IS produced year round, but again, you have to drive to  the source, trade, or have a good friend in order to acquire it.

In terms of taste Hopslam vs. Heady, Heady wins by a mile imo. Also, Heady retails at $3 for a 16 oz can whereas Hopslam works out to something slightly higher than that per 12 oz bottle.

The only downside about drinking  Heady is that when you run out, anything other hoppy beer is going to be disappointing by comparison.



Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on November 14, 2013, 10:32:53 am
Pardon my complete ignorance on the topic, but what exactly is the big deal about this Heady Topper beer? Is it basically just another company's Hopslam (in both hoppy-ness and low availability)?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 14, 2013, 11:59:44 am
is this beer another future example, those are the best kind, of becoming mass produced . . . and then sucking?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 14, 2013, 12:25:23 pm
heady topper: what ford said.

Quote from: walkonby on November 14, 2013, 11:59:44 am
is this beer another future example, those are the best kind, of becoming mass produced . . . and then sucking?

nope, because it won't be massed produced.  the brewer, john kimmich, is a total vermont hippie/locavore/community activist/small is beautiful/etc.  he's had many offers to make mad bank by going big and he has consistently said no.  he likes his current size, he has no ambition of going national.  in fact he dreads it and isn't entirely comfortable with the fame he and his beer have. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 14, 2013, 12:26:06 pm
foggy bottom WF has The Truth for $8.99.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 14, 2013, 02:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 14, 2013, 10:51:10 am
The only downside about drinking  Heady is that when you run out, anything other hoppy beer is going to be disappointing by comparison.

while i agree that there seems to be a disappointment from other IPAs after drinking heady, there are some notable replacements that are near heady level and readily available. 

i've found sculpin, elevated IPA, and OTWOA very suitable replacements. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 14, 2013, 02:57:19 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 14, 2013, 02:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 14, 2013, 10:51:10 am
The only downside about drinking  Heady is that when you run out, anything other hoppy beer is going to be disappointing by comparison.

while i agree that there seems to be a disappointment from other IPAs after drinking heady, there are some notable replacements that are near heady level and readily available. 

i've found sculpin, elevated IPA, and OTWOA very suitable replacements. 

I've found OTWOA, Abrasive (maybe just as good as Heady, MAYBE), and Pliny (pain in the ass to get) to be good replacements... that's about it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2013, 04:08:07 pm
I prefer Dr. Dog's the Truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUnpNq7U2Qk

But thanks for the notice, my wife may pick some up after work today.


Quote from: sweetcell on November 14, 2013, 12:26:06 pm
foggy bottom WF has The Truth for $8.99.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2013, 04:09:35 pm
Surly is reentering the Chicago market just in time for me to pick some up at Xmas when I'm in Chicago. No word on whether Abrasive will be available. Any other must haves from Surly?

Quote from: Yada on November 14, 2013, 02:57:19 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 14, 2013, 02:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 14, 2013, 10:51:10 am
The only downside about drinking  Heady is that when you run out, anything other hoppy beer is going to be disappointing by comparison.

while i agree that there seems to be a disappointment from other IPAs after drinking heady, there are some notable replacements that are near heady level and readily available. 

i've found sculpin, elevated IPA, and OTWOA very suitable replacements. 

I've found OTWOA, Abrasive (maybe just as good as Heady, MAYBE), and Pliny (pain in the ass to get) to be good replacements... that's about it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 14, 2013, 04:38:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 14, 2013, 04:09:35 pm
Surly is reentering the Chicago market just in time for me to pick some up at Xmas when I'm in Chicago. No word on whether Abrasive will be available. Any other must haves from Surly?

Quote from: Yada on November 14, 2013, 02:57:19 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 14, 2013, 02:51:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 14, 2013, 10:51:10 am
The only downside about drinking  Heady is that when you run out, anything other hoppy beer is going to be disappointing by comparison.

while i agree that there seems to be a disappointment from other IPAs after drinking heady, there are some notable replacements that are near heady level and readily available. 

i've found sculpin, elevated IPA, and OTWOA very suitable replacements. 

I've found OTWOA, Abrasive (maybe just as good as Heady, MAYBE), and Pliny (pain in the ass to get) to be good replacements... that's about it.

i thought furious was great.

also, darkness (RIS) is highly sought after
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 14, 2013, 04:42:17 pm
picked up a bottle of stone southern charred (barrel-aged 2012 double bastard) last night. :D

can't wait to drink this.

From Stone...

Southern Charred was unfiltered and aged in the following combination of barrels:

51% Kentucky Bourbon Barrels (10 months)
8% Charred American Oak Barrels (10 months)
41% Second-Use* Kentucky Bourbon Barrels (13 months)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 14, 2013, 04:43:44 pm
I've had the following:

Abrasive - I'd put it neck and neck with HT, on a good day, maybe as good?
Furious - Great beer, however, I was getting shipments of it with Abrasive which made it pale in comparison
Coffee Bender - Pretty awful to be honest, not even worth trying.
Overrated West Coast IPA - I wanted to love it, but it was lacking....something. Once again, the bar was probably set way too high with Abrasive and everything else was just meh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2013, 08:53:28 pm
Coffee Bender is actually the one Surly beer I've had. At the airport in Minneapolis where we were changing planes. Indeed it pretty much did suck, despite its high BA rating.

edit: I think it was plain old Bender that we had. Brown ales are good with the right food, but they're not much fun on their own, imo.


Quote from: Yada on November 14, 2013, 04:43:44 pm
I've had the following:

Abrasive - I'd put it neck and neck with HT, on a good day, maybe as good?
Furious - Great beer, however, I was getting shipments of it with Abrasive which made it pale in comparison
Coffee Bender - Pretty awful to be honest, not even worth trying.
Overrated West Coast IPA - I wanted to love it, but it was lacking....something. Once again, the bar was probably set way too high with Abrasive and everything else was just meh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2013, 08:43:08 pm
Cigar City coming to NoVA. Jai Alai IPA next week, and others to follow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on November 16, 2013, 01:29:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 15, 2013, 08:43:08 pm
Cigar City coming to NoVA. Jai Alai IPA next week, and others to follow.

Can't wait!

I picked up some more Schlafly Tasmanian IPA at TW. Ahhh..the tropical aromas. I love me some Galaxy hops. It's very similar to the Bluejacket Kolsch, "Forbidden Planet". 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 18, 2013, 11:47:42 am
We ate at Mekong in Richmond on Saturday for lunch. Excellent Vietnamese food in a strip mall.

But where they really killed it was with the draft menu. Hands down the best draft menu I've ever seen at any bar in the world, and it was just a normal Saturday afternoon. They don't have a list online, but I saved the paper menu for proof. I'm going to have to make up a reason to go to Richmond every few months.

Some others agree with my assessment of Mekong:

http://www.craftbeer.com/news/craftbeer-com-news/2013-great-american-beer-bar-selected-by-craftbeer-com-readers

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 18, 2013, 01:16:43 pm
2nd Annual Artists & Artisans Holiday Extravaganza
Location: 3 Stars Brewing Company
Sunday, December 15, 2013 from 2:00 PM to 6:00 PM (EST)
Washington, DC

Join us for the second annual Artists & Artisans Holiday Extravaganza. This is a celebration of the holidays and a coming together of local entrepreneurs in a locavore market setting. We will have a killer group of local artists and craftsmen on hand showcasing their passions and talents. This year we are joined by Rappahannock River Oysters, Soap Clothing, Jerkface Artisanal Jerky, Tacos from Impala DC, and our friends from Crispy Piggies will be smoking a bunch of game birds and serving some "traditional" holiday side dishes.

As a special addition this year we are adding a "Local Cask Pavilion" to showcase "Real Ale" from breweries around the Mid Atlantic. The List:
Oliver Ales: Soft as Snow but Warm Inside (Winter Warmer with cocoa and ancho chiles)
DuClaw Beers: Barrel Aged Serum (Double IPA)
District ChopHouse & Brewery: Bourbon Barrel aged Stout
Mad Fox Brewing Company: Headcracker Barleywine
DC Brau Brewing Company: OTWOA (Double IPA with Gogi & Elder berries)
The Brewer's Art: Le Canard (Belgian Brown)
Evolution Craft Brewing Company: Winter Migration on Cocoa (Jack Daniels aged dark strong ale)
Union Craft Brewing: Snow Pants (Oatmeal Stout)
Flying Dog Brewery: Raging Bitch (Belgian IPA with Amarillo & Citra hops).
We will also be tapping into the cellar for some extremely rare and barrel aged beers as well as pouring our entire fall lineup. We will also have drinks from New Columbia Distillers, James Pepper's 1776 Rye, and ciders from Millstone Cellars.

Ticket price includes a tasting glass and your first beer, after which all additional beers and food offerings will be served a la carte. There will also be a live art installation and DJ's spinning great tunes. These parties sell out fast so get your tickets while they last. Cheers.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/2nd-annual-artists-artisans-holiday-extravaganza-tickets-7560312097
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 18, 2013, 01:45:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 18, 2013, 11:47:42 am
We ate at Mekong in Richmond on Saturday for lunch. Excellent Vietnamese food in a strip mall.

But where they really killed it was with the draft menu. Hands down the best draft menu I've ever seen at any bar in the world, and it was just a normal Saturday afternoon. They don't have a list online, but I saved the paper menu for proof. I'm going to have to make up a reason to go to Richmond every few months.

Some others agree with my assessment of Mekong:

http://www.craftbeer.com/news/craftbeer-com-news/2013-great-american-beer-bar-selected-by-craftbeer-com-readers



the thing about Richmond , which as is vox populi by now I despise, is that everything is so much less expensive...something to be said for that...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 18, 2013, 02:48:14 pm
I think we had:

BFM 2012 Bon Chien $8
The Bruery Oude Tart $7
The Bruery White Oak $7
St Bernardus 12 $7
Allagash 2013 Curieux $7 (but they gave it too us for free since it was the last of the keg)

Almost certain all of those selections would be $10 or more each at Churchkey.


Quote from: hutch on November 18, 2013, 01:45:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 18, 2013, 11:47:42 am
We ate at Mekong in Richmond on Saturday for lunch. Excellent Vietnamese food in a strip mall.

But where they really killed it was with the draft menu. Hands down the best draft menu I've ever seen at any bar in the world, and it was just a normal Saturday afternoon. They don't have a list online, but I saved the paper menu for proof. I'm going to have to make up a reason to go to Richmond every few months.

Some others agree with my assessment of Mekong:

http://www.craftbeer.com/news/craftbeer-com-news/2013-great-american-beer-bar-selected-by-craftbeer-com-readers



the thing about Richmond , which as is vox populi by now I despise, is that everything is so much less expensive...something to be said for that...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 18, 2013, 04:15:55 pm
http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/a-family-in-need-after-tragedy-lif.129793/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 18, 2013, 05:05:38 pm
interesting... ok, fine, i find this interesting:

Homebrewers make 1% of beer brewed in US
November 13th, 2013 | Posted by Real Beer

A survey conducted for the American Homebrewers Association (AHA) indicates that homebrewers produce more than 2 million barrels of beer a year, a barrel being 31 gallons. This represents one percent of total U.S. beer production.

According to the survey, there are an estimated 1.2 million homebrewers in the United States. Two-thirds of them began brewing in 2005 or later.

?The homebrewing community is in every corner of the country and highly engaged in this hobby,? AHA director Gary Glass said for a press release. ?From the amount of money spent on supplies to the sheer number of homebrewers, it?s clear this is a growing trend and people are incredibly interested in learning about and making their own brews at home.?

From the survey:

- Demographics: The average homebrewer is 40 years old, with most (60%) falling between 30 and 49 years old. The majority of homebrewers are married or in a domestic partnership (78%), have a college degree or some form of higher education (69%), and are highly affluent ? nearly 60% of homebrewers have household incomes of $75,000 or more.

- Location: Homebrewers are fairly evenly spread across the country, with the slight plurality congregated in the West (31%), followed by the South (26%), Midwest (23%) and the fewest in the Northeast (17%).

- Production: In terms of brew production, homebrewers mainly stick to beer ? 60 percent of respondents brew only beer at home, compared to wine, mead or cider. AHA members and people affiliated with the AHA on average brewed nearly 10 batches of beer per year, at 7 gallons a batch, which is 15% more batches and nearly 30% more volume than homebrewers who were not affiliated with the AHA.

Retail: Nearly all homebrewers (95%) shop in two local homebrew stores eight or nine times a year, while a majority (80%) also shops in three online stores five times a year. On average, homebrewers spend $800 a year?about $460 on general supplies and ingredients, and $330 on equipment.

The survey was completed by more than 18,000 homebrewers via an online survey from July 30 to September 3, 2013. Of the respondents, 65% were members of the AHA, and 35% were unaffiliated homebrewers. 
 
http://www.realbeer.com/blog/?p=2913
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 18, 2013, 05:28:17 pm
It makes sense that most homebrewers have a college education.  Making your home brew does require to be able delay your gratification.  Spend your money and effort now and get good beer cheap 5 weeks later.  Longer if you Lager.  Sort of like College. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 18, 2013, 06:12:53 pm
and people who brew beer, screw a bunch, drink a bunch, party a bunch . . . just like college
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 18, 2013, 06:17:37 pm
Quote from: atomic on November 18, 2013, 05:28:17 pm
It makes sense that most homebrewers have a college education.  Making your home brew does require to be able delay your gratification.  Spend your money and effort now and get good beer cheap 5 weeks later.  Longer if you Lager.  Sort of like College. 

that analogy is flawed to say the least.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 18, 2013, 07:24:52 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 18, 2013, 06:17:37 pm
Quote from: atomic on November 18, 2013, 05:28:17 pm
It makes sense that most homebrewers have a college education.  Making your home brew does require to be able delay your gratification.  Spend your money and effort now and get good beer cheap 5 weeks later.  Longer if you Lager.  Sort of like College. 

that analogy is flawed to say the least.

No it isn't. I have a hard time with you.  You make a statement and don't back it with any sort of argument.  Are you really as stupid as you seem?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 18, 2013, 07:53:40 pm
Quote from: atomic on November 18, 2013, 07:24:52 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 18, 2013, 06:17:37 pm
Quote from: atomic on November 18, 2013, 05:28:17 pm
It makes sense that most homebrewers have a college education.  Making your home brew does require to be able delay your gratification.  Spend your money and effort now and get good beer cheap 5 weeks later.  Longer if you Lager.  Sort of like College. 

that analogy is flawed to say the least.

No it isn't. I have a hard time with you.  You make a statement and don't back it with any sort of argument.  Are you really as stupid as you seem?

yes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 18, 2013, 08:30:23 pm
you win best comeback comment of the day.  enjoy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 19, 2013, 01:18:53 pm
copied and pasted from a beer advocate thread:


Alright, here is the low down on BCBS and variants for Northern Virginia.

 We tinkered with releasing it concurrently with Goose Island on Black Friday. For several reasons, it would be a logistical nightmare. So that isn't going to happen. It will all be released the week of December 2nd. Most stores will be receiving their BCBS the day of their normal delivery. A few may get it earlier in the week (but it won't be many, as the whole logistics thing...)

 So the week of December 2nd it is. As for amounts, I was pleasantly surprised with the amount of Bourbon County, Bourbon County Coffee, and Bourbon County Barleywine that the area received. However, the amount of Backyard Rye will be less than the amount of Cherry Rye the area got last year.

 Hope that helps! I'd get more specific but I want to limit my competition out in the market.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2013, 11:01:53 am
Anything worth trying at Three Stars?

I may hit up the growler hours with a friend this evening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 21, 2013, 11:20:04 am
I have a friend who raves about one of their pale ales, but it's not a friend whose beer opinions I take too seriously.

I'd say their beers are interesting, but seems like they haven't put out anything yet that's really going to put them on the map. (?)

Their prices seemed a bit high the one time I was there.


Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2013, 11:01:53 am
Anything worth trying at Three Stars?

I may hit up the growler hours with a friend this evening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 21, 2013, 11:53:27 am
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2013, 11:01:53 am
Anything worth trying at Three Stars?

I may hit up the growler hours with a friend this evening.

Their Citra & Lemon Peel Saison is a great ballpark beer whenever I attend Nats games.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 01:09:26 pm
foggy bottom whole foods now serving pints and filling growlers.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 21, 2013, 01:37:45 pm
Gonna check out the DFH American Beauty on tap tonight at their local Montgomery county watering hole...
anyone give it a try yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 21, 2013, 01:52:58 pm
I imagine it will still be cheaper to drink a store purchased bottle in their café than drink a pint poured there.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 01:09:26 pm
foggy bottom whole foods now serving pints and filling growlers.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2013, 02:16:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 21, 2013, 01:52:58 pm
I imagine it will still be cheaper to drink a store purchased bottle in their café than drink a pint poured there.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 01:09:26 pm
foggy bottom whole foods now serving pints and filling growlers.



You are most likely correct.

Have any of you nerds heard of this guy before?

From Citizen's Brewery in SS

Citizens Brewing Co is excited to announce our co-owner and Great American Beer Festival Award-winning Head Brewer, Jeff Ramirez After graduating from Siebel Institute Of Technology & World Brewing Academy in Chicago, Jeff started his career at Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant and most recently, has worked as the Head Brewer at Mountain Sun Pub & Brewery in Boulder, CO. Jeff is adept at tweaking classics to make them even better and also enjoys introducing craft beer novices to new styles like sour beers. A favorite of ours is his Saison, with notes of tart pineapple and spice. But we also can?t wait to serve his Bourbon barrel-aged Imperial Chocolate Stout! Getting thirsty yet? Citizens Brewing Co is proud to be bringing a craft beer talent like Ramirez to Silver Spring!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 21, 2013, 03:05:54 pm
The Fairfax Whole Foods has 16 or so draft lines. You actually are not allowed to consume bottles purchased at the store in the store.

The draft lines are at pseudo-restaurant stations within Whole Foods. One even servers bottles with an inflated price in addition to the drafts.

However, since the Foggy Bottom "café" is simply an area to consume your store purchased food and not a "psedo-restaurant" different rules may apply.

Quote from: James Ford on November 21, 2013, 01:52:58 pm
I imagine it will still be cheaper to drink a store purchased bottle in their café than drink a pint poured there.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 01:09:26 pm
foggy bottom whole foods now serving pints and filling growlers.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 04:10:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2013, 02:16:15 pm
Have any of you nerds heard of this guy before?

Jeff Ramirez

nope.  maybe he's big in the denver scene but i've never heard that name...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 04:14:48 pm
Greg Engert: the brains behind Bluejacket... and meat-flavored beer.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/food-for-men/beer-taste-like-meat-1113
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2013, 04:16:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 04:14:48 pm
Greg Engert: the brains behind Bluejacket... and meat-flavored beer.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/food-for-men/beer-taste-like-meat-1113

at least they didn't include a picture of him
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 21, 2013, 04:25:05 pm
Can we trade Greg Engert for Greg Koch?

Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 04:14:48 pm
Greg Engert: the brains behind Bluejacket... and meat-flavored beer.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/food-for-men/beer-taste-like-meat-1113
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 21, 2013, 04:43:52 pm
In case you don't have Black Friday plans, and you don't plan on waiting in the long line for this in Chicago on Black Friday, there's this:

The TW in Sterling will have BCBS 4pks on 11/29. Their distro is different from the close in burbs and arrangements have been made to have the beers available when the store opens on 11/29, logistics be damned.




Quote from: James Ford on November 19, 2013, 01:18:53 pm
copied and pasted from a beer advocate thread:


Alright, here is the low down on BCBS and variants for Northern Virginia.

 We tinkered with releasing it concurrently with Goose Island on Black Friday. For several reasons, it would be a logistical nightmare. So that isn't going to happen. It will all be released the week of December 2nd. Most stores will be receiving their BCBS the day of their normal delivery. A few may get it earlier in the week (but it won't be many, as the whole logistics thing...)

 So the week of December 2nd it is. As for amounts, I was pleasantly surprised with the amount of Bourbon County, Bourbon County Coffee, and Bourbon County Barleywine that the area received. However, the amount of Backyard Rye will be less than the amount of Cherry Rye the area got last year.

 Hope that helps! I'd get more specific but I want to limit my competition out in the market.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 11:00:36 pm
oh, great.  the news the beer world has been waiting for... samuel adams is finally jumping on the IPA bandwagon.  pertinent details:

"Introducing Rebel IPA, the first all-American hops, West Coast style IPA from the same brewers that started a craft beer revolution in 1984."
HOP VARIETIES: American Cascade, Simcoe®, Chinook, Centennial, and Amarillo
6.5%ABV
IBUs: 45
(http://www.samueladams.com/craft-beers/rebel-ipa)

it's holding a 82 on BA, so it can't be all bad (nor is it all good, either) http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/95386
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 21, 2013, 11:45:54 pm
sounds like a pale ale to me

quote author=sweetcell link=topic=19630.msg373826#msg373826 date=1385089236]
oh, great.  the news the beer world has been waiting for... samuel adams is finally jumping on the IPA bandwagon.  pertinent details:

"Introducing Rebel IPA, the first all-American hops, West Coast style IPA from the same brewers that started a craft beer revolution in 1984."
HOP VARIETIES: American Cascade, Simcoe®, Chinook, Centennial, and Amarillo
6.5%ABV
IBUs: 45
(http://www.samueladams.com/craft-beers/rebel-ipa)

it's holding a 82 on BA, so it can't be all bad (nor is it all good, either) http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/95386
[/quote]
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 22, 2013, 10:14:16 pm
did some beer shoping today:

- Dominion Millennium barley wine 2013 (so I can compare it to the 2011 i've been sitting on)
- Backwoods Bastard (just because)
- New Holland Dragon's Milk bourbon barrel stout (for the cellar)
- Duvel Tripel Hop 2013 (dry-hopped with Sorachi Ace... mmmmmmmmmmm)
- Dominion "Pinup" variety pack: a mix of their Double D IPA (respectable), Candi tripel (very good), and Morning Glory espresso stout (smooooth).  $14 for a 12-pack of strong beers, all are over 9%.  they had a sales rep pouring samples at Rodmans.  by no means mind-blowing but all very good.  very "accessible" - i'll keep these (except for the IPA) around for folks just getting into craft beer. 

Quote from: James Ford on November 21, 2013, 11:45:54 pm
sounds like a pale ale to me

technically it fits the BJCO description of an IPA... but just barely.  a pale ale's max IBUs is 45, while an IPA's is 40-70 (so it fits into both categories).  but a pale ale's max ABV is 6.2%, while IPAs go from 5.5-7.5%.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 23, 2013, 12:01:45 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2013, 11:00:36 pm
oh, great.  the news the beer world has been waiting for... samuel adams is finally jumping on the IPA bandwagon.  pertinent details:

"Introducing Rebel IPA, the first all-American hops, West Coast style IPA from the same brewers that started a craft beer revolution in 1984."
HOP VARIETIES: American Cascade, Simcoe®, Chinook, Centennial, and Amarillo
6.5%ABV
IBUs: 45
(http://www.samueladams.com/craft-beers/rebel-ipa)

it's holding a 82 on BA, so it can't be all bad (nor is it all good, either) http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/95386

I guess now that Sam Adams is making the fad will die. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 25, 2013, 01:16:01 pm
Another try for Sam Adams-

Double Agent IPL?
"Full of the bold grapefruit & piney character of an American IPA, this brew also reveals its smooth lager side creating a balanced, flavorful brew."

HOP VARIETIES-
Zeus, Simcoe, Citra, Ahtanum, Cascade, Centennial, and Nelson Sauvin hops

5.0 abv
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 11:30:51 am
Picked up two sixers of Great Lakes Xmas Ale. Between that and BCBS being released on Friday, it's going to be an expensive week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 12:16:04 pm
Where are you going to be getting BCBS on Friday?

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 11:30:51 am
Picked up two sixers of Great Lakes Xmas Ale. Between that and BCBS being released on Friday, it's going to be an expensive week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 12:20:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 12:16:04 pm
Where are you going to be getting BCBS on Friday?

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 11:30:51 am
Picked up two sixers of Great Lakes Xmas Ale. Between that and BCBS being released on Friday, it's going to be an expensive week.

Going to upstate NY for Thanksgiving, so the beer store by my parents place. They didn't have a bottle limit on Cherry Rye last time so I went to town.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 12:32:26 pm
Ah nice. Totally forgot that Goose Inbev casts such a wide net!

I bought one coffee, one cherry, and one four pack last year. So far, I've only drank one 12oz bottle.
 
I really shouldn't buy any this year based on my 12 month consumption. I blame my wife for the lack of consumption. She only pretends to like imperial stouts when she's around beer geeks (besides myself).

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 12:20:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 12:16:04 pm
Where are you going to be getting BCBS on Friday?

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 11:30:51 am
Picked up two sixers of Great Lakes Xmas Ale. Between that and BCBS being released on Friday, it's going to be an expensive week.

Going to upstate NY for Thanksgiving, so the beer store by my parents place. They didn't have a bottle limit on Cherry Rye last time so I went to town.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 26, 2013, 12:50:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 12:32:26 pm
Ah nice. Totally forgot that Goose Inbev casts such a wide net!

I bought one coffee, one cherry, and one four pack last year. So far, I've only drank one 12oz bottle.
 
I really shouldn't buy any this year based on my 12 month consumption. I blame my wife for the lack of consumption. She only pretends to like imperial stouts when she's around beer geeks (besides myself).

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 12:20:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 12:16:04 pm
Where are you going to be getting BCBS on Friday?

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 11:30:51 am
Picked up two sixers of Great Lakes Xmas Ale. Between that and BCBS being released on Friday, it's going to be an expensive week.

Going to upstate NY for Thanksgiving, so the beer store by my parents place. They didn't have a bottle limit on Cherry Rye last time so I went to town.

consumption issue, eh? if only there was some other avenue to enjoy these bottles... like a forum bottle share or something.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 26, 2013, 12:54:06 pm
James,

I suggest you get all wild and crazy and take down one of those 12 ozers yourself over this holiday weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 01:42:13 pm
That's like 420 calories of beer in one sitting. Are you kidding? I have a girlish figure to maintain.

Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 12:54:06 pm
James,

I suggest you get all wild and crazy and take down one of those 12 ozers yourself over this holiday weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 02:26:02 pm
i'm currently in vermont. on the drive up i stopped at State Line Liquors, at the MD/DE border.  amazing beer selection.  they had a 20% off sale on all belgians so i picked up a LambickX, a Lindmans Cuvee Rene and a Oud Beersel Framboise.  i was in a sour mood ;D

the in-laws live on a farm in the sticks.  most of vermont is nowhere, and they're on the edges of that.  a few miles up the road is a general store and a gas station.  and in this little station, middle of nowhere, i found a ridiculous beer selection.  great prices too.  i picked up a Jolly Pumpkin La Roja, a Lodgson Seizoen Bretta, a 1.5 year old Mathilda, and a Rock Art Vermonster barley wine... all for cheaper than i've seen them anywhere else.  go rural vermont.

doesn't look like i'll be snagging any heady topper or lawsons.  it would require a 3 hour round trip for either one, and a full day expedition to snag both... i got other shit to do.

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 12:20:05 pm
Going to upstate NY for Thanksgiving, so the beer store by my parents place. They didn't have a bottle limit on Cherry Rye last time so I went to town.

dude.  grab me a few if you can.  seriously.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 26, 2013, 02:37:41 pm
I don't have a beer cellar per se, but have extra bottles of KBS, BCBS, Parabola, etc. etc... Will it hurt to leave the beer in a refrigerator or would you suggest just leaving the beer in a cool, dark spot in the basement?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 26, 2013, 03:03:19 pm
Quote
i picked up  a Lodgson Seizoen Bretta... for cheaper than i've seen them anywhere else.  go rural vermont.

Quote
dude.  grab me a few if you can.  seriously.

dude.  grab me a few if you can.  seriously.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:28:48 pm
My high ABV stuff like that sits in a cool, dark-ish area 12 months a year. Except it's not really that cool there in the summertime.

My wife says some of the aged stuff tastes "musty", I argue that it just tastes "mellow".

I guess I don't really have an answer for you. To be honest, I age beer because I'm a more enthusiastic buyer of beer than I am a consumer of it. Not because i'm hoping that it tastes better with age.


Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 02:37:41 pm
I don't have a beer cellar per se, but have extra bottles of KBS, BCBS, Parabola, etc. etc... Will it hurt to leave the beer in a refrigerator or would you suggest just leaving the beer in a cool, dark spot in the basement?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:30:31 pm
Was that the Warren Store by any chance? Or are you saying you actually found those beers at a gas station?


Quote from: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 02:26:02 pm


the in-laws live on a farm in the sticks.  most of vermont is nowhere, and they're on the edges of that.  a few miles up the road is a general store and a gas station.  and in this little station, middle of nowhere, i found a ridiculous beer selection.  great prices too.  i picked up a Jolly Pumpkin La Roja, a Lodgson Seizoen Bretta, a 1.5 year old Mathilda, and a Rock Art Vermonster barley wine... all for cheaper than i've seen them anywhere else.  go rural vermont.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 03:36:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 02:26:02 pm

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 12:20:05 pm
Going to upstate NY for Thanksgiving, so the beer store by my parents place. They didn't have a bottle limit on Cherry Rye last time so I went to town.

dude.  grab me a few if you can.  seriously.

You mean the Backyard Rye 22oz, or any 12oz variety? Cherry Rye isn't out this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 26, 2013, 03:39:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:30:31 pm
Was that the Warren Store by any chance? Or are you saying you actually found those beers at a gas station?


Quote from: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 02:26:02 pm


the in-laws live on a farm in the sticks.  most of vermont is nowhere, and they're on the edges of that.  a few miles up the road is a general store and a gas station.  and in this little station, middle of nowhere, i found a ridiculous beer selection.  great prices too.  i picked up a Jolly Pumpkin La Roja, a Lodgson Seizoen Bretta, a 1.5 year old Mathilda, and a Rock Art Vermonster barley wine... all for cheaper than i've seen them anywhere else.  go rural vermont.



if it was the Warren Store, he should've walked out with HF and Lawsons, so I'm assuming not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 26, 2013, 03:40:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:28:48 pm
My high ABV stuff like that sits in a cool, dark-ish area 12 months a year. Except it's not really that cool there in the summertime.

My wife says some of the aged stuff tastes "musty", I argue that it just tastes "mellow".

I guess I don't really have an answer for you. To be honest, I age beer because I'm a more enthusiastic buyer of beer than I am a consumer of it. Not because i'm hoping that it tastes better with age.


Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 02:37:41 pm
I don't have a beer cellar per se, but have extra bottles of KBS, BCBS, Parabola, etc. etc... Will it hurt to leave the beer in a refrigerator or would you suggest just leaving the beer in a cool, dark spot in the basement?

Maybe I should re-phrase the question. Will the beer being very cold in the fridge hurt the beer in anyway vs. it being in a roughly 60 degree area that's cool/dark.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 26, 2013, 03:51:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 02:26:02 pm
on the drive up i stopped at State Line Liquors, at the MD/DE border
as a Blue Hen alum...I can't tell you how many cases of Milwaukee's "the beast" Best I bought at that store.  Easily 1000's of cans of that stuff.  Never looked at anything else...25 cents a can!  I've a more mature pallet now, but won't forget my past  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 04:11:26 pm
Warren Store had neither Lawson's nor Hill Farmstead when I was there over the summer.

They did have some old 11.2 oz bottles of Pannepot. Literally as cheap as the bottle I brought home from Belgium (St Bernardus 12 and Rochefort 10 are $2 grocery store beers in Belgium, but Pannepot sells at a premium price). I grabbed one but am wishing I had grabbed several more.


Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 03:39:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:30:31 pm
Was that the Warren Store by any chance? Or are you saying you actually found those beers at a gas station?


Quote from: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 02:26:02 pm


the in-laws live on a farm in the sticks.  most of vermont is nowhere, and they're on the edges of that.  a few miles up the road is a general store and a gas station.  and in this little station, middle of nowhere, i found a ridiculous beer selection.  great prices too.  i picked up a Jolly Pumpkin La Roja, a Lodgson Seizoen Bretta, a 1.5 year old Mathilda, and a Rock Art Vermonster barley wine... all for cheaper than i've seen them anywhere else.  go rural vermont.



if it was the Warren Store, he should've walked out with HF and Lawsons, so I'm assuming not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 04:12:49 pm
How long are you keeping it in the fridge?

I still don't know the answer...someone else. Atomic, do you have the answer?

Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 03:40:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:28:48 pm
My high ABV stuff like that sits in a cool, dark-ish area 12 months a year. Except it's not really that cool there in the summertime.

My wife says some of the aged stuff tastes "musty", I argue that it just tastes "mellow".

I guess I don't really have an answer for you. To be honest, I age beer because I'm a more enthusiastic buyer of beer than I am a consumer of it. Not because i'm hoping that it tastes better with age.


Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 02:37:41 pm
I don't have a beer cellar per se, but have extra bottles of KBS, BCBS, Parabola, etc. etc... Will it hurt to leave the beer in a refrigerator or would you suggest just leaving the beer in a cool, dark spot in the basement?

Maybe I should re-phrase the question. Will the beer being very cold in the fridge hurt the beer in anyway vs. it being in a roughly 60 degree area that's cool/dark.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 26, 2013, 04:20:24 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 02:26:02 pm
i picked up a Jolly Pumpkin La Roja, a Lodgson Seizoen Bretta, a 1.5 year old Mathilda, and a Rock Art Vermonster barley wine... all for cheaper than i've seen them anywhere else.  go rural vermont.

very, very jealous.  la roja aged a year is really one of my favorite sours (great for dregs, too!). it's just so damn drinkable.

and that seizon bretta... that has to be my favorite saison i've ever had.

nice haul, very jelly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 26, 2013, 04:21:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 04:12:49 pm
How long are you keeping it in the fridge?

I still don't know the answer...someone else. Atomic, do you have the answer?

Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 03:40:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:28:48 pm
My high ABV stuff like that sits in a cool, dark-ish area 12 months a year. Except it's not really that cool there in the summertime.

My wife says some of the aged stuff tastes "musty", I argue that it just tastes "mellow".

I guess I don't really have an answer for you. To be honest, I age beer because I'm a more enthusiastic buyer of beer than I am a consumer of it. Not because i'm hoping that it tastes better with age.


Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 02:37:41 pm
I don't have a beer cellar per se, but have extra bottles of KBS, BCBS, Parabola, etc. etc... Will it hurt to leave the beer in a refrigerator or would you suggest just leaving the beer in a cool, dark spot in the basement?

Maybe I should re-phrase the question. Will the beer being very cold in the fridge hurt the beer in anyway vs. it being in a roughly 60 degree area that's cool/dark.

Approaching a year for a few of the bottles, while the rest are still on a shelf in the basement.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 26, 2013, 04:23:17 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 04:21:33 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 04:12:49 pm
How long are you keeping it in the fridge?

I still don't know the answer...someone else. Atomic, do you have the answer?

Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 03:40:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:28:48 pm
My high ABV stuff like that sits in a cool, dark-ish area 12 months a year. Except it's not really that cool there in the summertime.

My wife says some of the aged stuff tastes "musty", I argue that it just tastes "mellow".

I guess I don't really have an answer for you. To be honest, I age beer because I'm a more enthusiastic buyer of beer than I am a consumer of it. Not because i'm hoping that it tastes better with age.


Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 02:37:41 pm
I don't have a beer cellar per se, but have extra bottles of KBS, BCBS, Parabola, etc. etc... Will it hurt to leave the beer in a refrigerator or would you suggest just leaving the beer in a cool, dark spot in the basement?

Maybe I should re-phrase the question. Will the beer being very cold in the fridge hurt the beer in anyway vs. it being in a roughly 60 degree area that's cool/dark.

Approaching a year for a few of the bottles, while the rest are still on a shelf in the basement.

i don't have an answer for this, but if you'd like me to send me some of the KBS and parabola I will certainly find out for you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 04:41:23 pm
In case anyone is looking for a Thanksgiving growler fill, Fairfax Whole Foods will be tapping some nice stuff. Unfortunately not all at the same time.


GRATUITOUS GOBBLE DAY GROWLERS!!! With the festive spirit of plenty in mind, I have decided to dig deep into my keg pantry and offer up some unexpected morsels. Actually, if you have been following this page for awhile, these probably ARE expected. In no particular order, and to be tapped at no particular time, you can expect to see some or all of these make an appearance at Cheez Town.
Bruery Oude Tart
Bruery Autumn Maple
DuPont Avec les Bon Vieux
Bear Republic Racer X
Alewerks Cafe Royale
Dogfish Head OldeSchool
DuClaw Pumpkin Retribution
Epic Big Bad Baptist
Alewerks Coffehouse Stout
Great Lakes Christmas Ale
Whew, that's a good preliminary list at least. Again there are no set times or order for these kegs, but I will post when and which are tapped. Cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 04:44:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 02:37:41 pm
Will it hurt to leave the beer in a refrigerator or would you suggest just leaving the beer in a cool, dark spot in the basement?

keeping them in the fridge will slow the aging process.  so it's up to you: are you aging the beer so that it takes on the qualities of time (mellowing, etc.), or is your goal to be able to enjoy that beer in a "fresher" state at a later time?  typically it's former, so beers are aged above fridge temps.  most important thing is temp consistency.  you don't want a cellar where temps change on a daily basis.  long-term seasonal warming isn't a biggie, as long as it's within reason - you don't want your beer hitting 90*F in the summer.

60*F and dark is pretty much perfect for cellaring (if you want to age them).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 26, 2013, 05:02:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 04:44:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 02:37:41 pm
Will it hurt to leave the beer in a refrigerator or would you suggest just leaving the beer in a cool, dark spot in the basement?

keeping them in the fridge will slow the aging process.  so it's up to you: are you aging the beer so that it takes on the qualities of time (mellowing, etc.), or is your goal to be able to enjoy that beer in a "fresher" state at a later time?  typically it's former, so beers are aged above fridge temps.  most important thing is temp consistency.  you don't want a cellar where temps change on a daily basis.  long-term seasonal warming isn't a biggie, as long as it's within reason - you want want your beer hitting 90*F in the summer.

60*F and dark is pretty much perfect for cellaring.

Thank you sir... I fall more into the range of "I can't drink all of the beer that I currently have and don't want it to go bad." Not really trying to cellar it to change the taste, I just want it to stay fresh/tasty.

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 05:17:16 pm
Wow, that is a ridiculous growler list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 05:23:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 03:39:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:30:31 pm
Was that the Warren Store by any chance? Or are you saying you actually found those beers at a gas station?

if it was the Warren Store, he should've walked out with HF and Lawsons, so I'm assuming not.

nope, literally a gas station.  well, the quickie-mart/convenience store inside the gas station.

i wish it was the warren store.  they sell out of lawsons pretty much as soon as it hits the shelves.  you need to be there on delivery morning if you want to get any.  they're having a special delivery tomorrow but i just can't justify a 3 hour car ride for beer.

Quote from: stevewizzle on November 26, 2013, 04:20:24 pm
la roja aged a year is really one of my favorite sours (great for dregs, too!).

i've never had JP before so looking forward to it.  some brewers are apparently weary of JP dregs: they are too powerful.  they take over and make you brew somewhat one-dimensionally sour.  i'll probably age that roja bottle for a while, give other bugs a head start in my brew, and pitch the JP dregs after a few months.  for christmas i'm getting a brew day.  i'll be splitting a batch between a dubbel and an oud bruin ;D

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 05:17:16 pm
Wow, that is a ridiculous growler list.

seriously.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 26, 2013, 05:55:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 05:23:46 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 26, 2013, 04:20:24 pm
la roja aged a year is really one of my favorite sours (great for dregs, too!).

i've never had JP before so looking forward to it.  some brewers are apparently weary of JP dregs: they are too powerful.  they take over and make you brew somewhat one-dimensionally sour.  i'll probably age that roja bottle for a while, give other bugs a head start in my brew, and pitch the JP dregs after a few months.  for christmas i'm getting a brew day.  i'll be splitting a batch between a dubbel and an oud bruin ;D

i could see that. added it to a 1-gal batch of berliner weisse, which was seriously lacking in tartness. it brought out some incredible flavors for a 3% beer, so it's all relative. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 09:53:42 pm
Growler value may vary.

My more local Whole Foods has 64 oz growlers of Backwoods Bastard for $30. Compare that to $14 for 48 oz in a four-pack. What's up with that price?


Quote from: BrettnotBritt on November 26, 2013, 05:17:16 pm
Wow, that is a ridiculous growler list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 10:31:28 pm
Goose Island takeover at Rustico in Alexandria Friday.


 [Description]
   
Bourbon County -- two words that perennially elicit excitement from the beer community. Next Tuesday, December 3rd, we've got a slew of Bourbon County rarities on draft, including NoVa debut of the brand new 2013 vintage of the venerable Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Stout! Plus we'll be giving away some cool Goose Island nonic pint glasses!

In addition to the most recent iteration of Bourbon County Stout, we'll also have a 2012 vintage of Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout on tap (brewed with Intelligentsia-roasted La Tortuga beans)as well as a the first iteration of a new Bourbon County variant dubbed Bourbon County Barleywine (an English Barleywine aged in third-use bourbon barrels once home to Kentucky bourbon and then Goose Island?s Bourbon County Stout).

Several Belgian-inspired favorites will also be in-house. Lolita, aged in oak wine barrels with raspberries; Matilda, a Belgian Strong Pale Ale fermented with Brettanomyces Bruxellensis; Matilda Lambicus, the original Matilda finished w/ Brettanomyces Lambicus; Sofie, aged in oak wine barrels with orange peel; Pepe Nero, a dark saison brewed with malted rye and black peppercorns; and Pere Jacques, a Belgian Dubbel.

And we've even managed to nab a few other tremendous libations. Big John, an Imperial Stout brewed with cocao nibs; Naughty Goose, a typically brewpub-only American Brown Ale brewed with Tettnang and Cascade hops; Ten Hills, a brand new American Pale Ale brewed with Perle, Cascade, and Saaz hops; and The Illinois, a boldly-flavored Imperial IPA. Finally, several Goose Island classics will also be flowing: 312 Wheat Ale, Honker?s English Bitter, Goose Island IPA, and Goose Island Nut Brown Ale.

There is no admission fee for this event and all Goose Island Drafts will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours.

The Full Goose Island Bourbon County Draft Extravanza List!
Bourbon County Coffee Stout 2012
Bourbon County Stout
Bourbon County Barleywine
Lolita Wild Ale
Matilda Belgian Strong Pale Ale
Matilda Lambicus Belgian Strong Pale Ale
Sofie Saison
Pepe Nero Saison
Pere Jacques Dubbel
Big John Imperial Stout
Naughty Goose American Brown Ale
Ten Hills American Pale Ale
The Illinois Imperial IPA
312 Wheat Ale
Honker?s Ale
Goose Island IPA
Goose Island Nut Brown Ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 11:01:02 pm
Not to be outdone, Pizza Paradiso is having this Friday:

Dupont:
Allagash Bourbon BA Black
Amager Hr. Frederiksen
BFM Cuvee Alex le Rouge
De Molen Hemel & Aarde
Firestone Walker 2012 Parabola
Freigeist Phoebe Caulfield
Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel Stout
Mikkeller/Amager Hr. Frederiksen Vaesel Brunch
Mother Earth 2012 Silent Night
Nøgne-Ø Imperial Stout
Omnipollo Agamemnon
Perennial Abraxxas
Sierra Nevada Narwhal
T?Smidge Catherine the Great
The Bruery Melange #3
Thornbridge Bracia
To Øl Sort Maelik
Wells John Courage Stout
Xbeeriment Black Force One

Georgetown:
Amager Imperial Stout
Anderson Valley BA Imperial Stout
Baird Dark Sky Imperial Stout
Ballast Point Sea Monster
Bells Batch 9000
De Molen Cease & Desist
Dogfish Head 2010 World Wide Stout
Evil Twin Christmas Eve at a New York City Hotel Room
Haandbryggeriet Odin?s Tipple
Iron Fist Velvet Glove
Lagunitas Imperial Stout
Laughing Dog Dogfather
Left Hand Wake Up Dead
Lost Coast Epeteios
North Coast BA Old Rasputin
Ölvisholt Lava
Oscar Blues Ten Fidy
Otter Creek Russian Imperial Stout

Old Town:
Bells 2012 Expedition
De Molen Hel & Verdoemenis
Dogfish Head 2011 Bitches Brew
Duck Rabbit Rabid Duck
Great Divide 2012 Belgo Yeti
Haandbryggeriet Dark Force Stout
Het Nest Dead Man?s Hand Bourbon BA
Het Nest Dead Man?s Hand Wine BA
Mikkeller Black Hole
Schlafly Imperial Stout
Southern Tier 2012 Chocolate
Speakeasy Scarface Stout
Stone Farking Wheat
Uinta Labyrinth
Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout
Del Ducato Verdi 200th Anniversary
Evil Twin Yin
Weyerbacher Heresy
- See more at: http://www.eatyourpizza.com/#sthash.paaqS66Z.dpuf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 27, 2013, 12:35:28 am
you're not kidding.  that's a stellar list of drafts at dupont and georgetown. brunch weasel, parabola, abraxxas, agamemnon... that's an insane list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 27, 2013, 01:07:13 am
batch 9000: the only beer you need all night.  you won't taste anything afterwards... in a good way.  dang i hope they still have some of that on monday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 27, 2013, 07:56:03 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 27, 2013, 01:07:13 am
batch 9000: the only beer you need all night.  you won't taste anything afterwards... in a good way.  dang i hope they still have some of that on monday.

I still have a few bottles of that left in my cellar
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 27, 2013, 08:45:50 am
I'm likely not to make those over the weekend, hoping some are still left when I'm able to hit a rare (for me) happy hour on Tuesday. And hoping the three Bruery sours that Dupont has on (Oude Tart, Tart of Darkness, Sour in the Rye) are still on then as well.

If any of y'all are interested in joining a friend and I at happy hour at a paradiso on Tuesday at 5, let me know!


Quote from: stevewizzle on November 27, 2013, 12:35:28 am
you're not kidding.  that's a stellar list of drafts at dupont and georgetown. brunch weasel, parabola, abraxxas, agamemnon... that's an insane list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 27, 2013, 10:08:24 am
Finally tried the American Beauty release from Dogfish Head... pretty, pretty mediocre.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 27, 2013, 11:45:28 am
Completely agree. Glad I and a free paste and didn't pay for it.

Sadly, I think Dogfish has been pretty much been surpassed and overtaken in the beer world. Not that I wouldn't be happy to drink some at a party or something.


Quote from: Yada on November 27, 2013, 10:08:24 am
Finally tried the American Beauty release from Dogfish Head... pretty, pretty mediocre.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 27, 2013, 01:49:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 27, 2013, 08:45:50 am
If any of y'all are interested in joining a friend and I at happy hour at a paradiso on Tuesday at 5, let me know!

if all goes according to plan, i should be able to join you.

Quote from: James Ford on November 27, 2013, 11:45:28 am
Sadly, I think Dogfish has been pretty much been surpassed and overtaken in the beer world. Not that I wouldn't be happy to drink some at a party or something.

yeah, they've become the safe go-to of craft beer.  want to let people know you're above BMCs, but don't actually know much about craft beer?  dogfish to the rescue!  60 minute is becoming the new yuengling.

they do put out some extreme stuff that will keep them in the news, but they've almost become a parody of themselves... "our newest beer is made with ocean water, tazmanian moss, dust from a mayan temple, and the tears of asian child factory workers."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 27, 2013, 10:09:40 pm
god im glad i quit drinking two months ago.  i got tired of the pressure of what i thought i was suppose to drink.  stupid beer cults.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 28, 2013, 01:46:19 am
Quote from: James Ford on November 27, 2013, 11:45:28 am
Completely agree. Glad I and a free paste and didn't pay for it.

Sadly, I think Dogfish has been pretty much been surpassed and overtaken in the beer world. Not that I wouldn't be happy to drink some at a party or something.


Quote from: Yada on November 27, 2013, 10:08:24 am
Finally tried the American Beauty release from Dogfish Head... pretty, pretty mediocre.

James Ford has to be the person who drinks the most beer but knows the least about it.   Stop talking about beer you are an idiot when it comes to beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on November 28, 2013, 01:47:52 am
Quote from: walkonby on November 27, 2013, 10:09:40 pm
god im glad i quit drinking two months ago.  i got tired of the pressure of what i thought i was suppose to drink.  stupid beer cults.

Here is a clue drink what you like.  Cool people don't care what others think of the beer they drink. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 28, 2013, 12:58:50 pm
Nice writeup/reviews of the 2013 Bourbon County variants:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2013/11/25/brace-yourselves-here-come-goose-islands-2013-bourbon-county-variants
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 28, 2013, 01:18:06 pm
but hutch . . . im not cool.  never have been, never will be.  im a nerd, and nerds have big cocks.  oopps, that just slipped out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 28, 2013, 02:03:58 pm
I think you're confusing Hutch with Atomic. Sounds like you are drinking again. Congrats.


Quote from: walkonby on November 28, 2013, 01:18:06 pm
but hutch . . . im not cool.  never have been, never will be.  im a nerd, and nerds have big cocks.  oopps, that just slipped out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 28, 2013, 02:12:16 pm
damn . . . you
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 28, 2013, 04:24:03 pm
the in-laws asked me to do a beer run yesterday, which 'round these parts means checking into the Harpoon brewery.  they will essentially pour you unlimited samples, especially if you sit at the bar and order a beer.  as has been discussed here before, most of their offerings fall somewhere between boring and serviceable.  several of their beers are a lot better fresh on tap: their rye IPA, white IPA and chocolate cherry porter were good.  they had a barley wine (http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/beer/338301/Bronze-King) that was way too sweet.  the two best things the had on tap were:

- my glass of Saison Various (http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/beer/1656/100-Barrel-Series-47-Saison-Various) was downright tasty.  unfortunately they kicked the last keg before i could fill my growler.  they had sold out of bottles.  dammit.  the barkeep said it was one of the best beers they've brewed recently, i would be inclined to believe him

- their imperial IPA (http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/beer/2/Harpoon-Leviathan-IPA) was entirely respectable.  i didn't get a growler of that because of price ($16, twice the cost of other fills) and the fact that i'm the only hop-head around.  i bought a 4-pack, which was a bust: totally unimpressive.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 26, 2013, 05:23:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2013, 03:39:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 26, 2013, 03:30:31 pm
Was that the Warren Store by any chance? Or are you saying you actually found those beers at a gas station?

if it was the Warren Store, he should've walked out with HF and Lawsons, so I'm assuming not.

nope, literally a gas station.  well, the quickie-mart/convenience store inside the gas station.

i stopped into said gas station yesterday on my way back from Harpoon.  as if the previous selection wasn't impressive enough, i missed the following bottles on the shelves:

- Founders Bolt Cutter ($19, wasn't it like $25 or more when i last saw it on shelves... in may?)
- Element Dark Element
- Element Red Giant
- Uinta Cockeyed Cooper
- AleSmith Speedway Stout
- AleSmith Old Numbskull

must... resist...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 28, 2013, 05:44:53 pm
What beers did y'all have with your Thanksgiving meal?

Our Thanksgiving was brought to us by the Duvel and In-Bev empires.

With the vegetarian bratwurst and potato latke we had a bomber of La Chouffe.

With the pecan pie, we had a bomber of 2012 Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout.

Yum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 29, 2013, 04:33:02 pm
the 3 stars cranberry saison went very well with our turkey
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 29, 2013, 05:54:32 pm
a growler of deschutes abyss was opened yesterday... but mostly wine during the meal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 29, 2013, 06:22:23 pm
i had water.  beer is dead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 29, 2013, 06:49:38 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 29, 2013, 05:54:32 pm
a growler of deschutes abyss was opened yesterday... but mostly wine during the meal.
dang!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 29, 2013, 10:41:50 pm
finally got to try DirtWolf tonight.  as much as it pains me to agree with Ford, it's better than The Truth.  the bitterness is comparable but not as harsh.  truth is more on the dank side while dirtwolf is tropical and fruity (no wonder, what with its use of Citra, Chinook, Simcoe and Mosaic).  i suppose one thing that the truth has over dirtwolf is value: i just paid $10 for a 4-pack of dirtwolf, while you can get 6 truths for the same price.  but i'd rather have less of better, so dirtwolf wins.

Quote from: James Ford on November 28, 2013, 05:44:53 pm
What beers did y'all have with your Thanksgiving meal?

in providing beer for the feast, my goal was to bring something that looked fancier than it actually was.  i didn't want to break open the cellar too much so i brought 2011 and 2012 version of Unibroue/Trader Joe's Vintage Ale.  folks liked it just fine, but talk about meh.  there was little to no difference between the two versions, so aging isn't bringing much to this brew.  maybe if i had a fresh version there might have been a discernible difference.  i'm done with the vintage ale.

we had a much better experience comparing a fresh Old Dominion Millennium Ale with a 2 year old version of itself earlier this week.  talk about a huge change.  the new version was mostly hops and alcohol burn.  the 2 year old version was pure caramel.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 30, 2013, 12:38:28 am
I was at Pizza Paradiso Dupont and they said they were in the process of getting rid of all of their pint glasses. No more servings larger than 12 oz, even on the low abv beers. No pints at a bar? WTF is up with that? Bad move. And what about those cool 20 oz hefe glasses? Guess they are a thing of the past too.

Props to Pizza Paradiso on doing better prices than Churchkey today though 4 oz pour of Parabola at Pizza Paradiso=$4.50. 4 oz pour of BCBS at Churchkey=$6.50.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 30, 2013, 01:07:31 pm
12 oz of a 3% berliner wiesse... awesome.  i'll take 3, please.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 30, 2013, 01:47:26 pm
Just a guess, but maybe they are clearing space and planning on going the 4 oz pour route. Good for non-happy hour times, I reckon.

Quote from: sweetcell on November 30, 2013, 01:07:31 pm
12 oz of a 3% berliner wiesse... awesome.  i'll take 3, please.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 02, 2013, 03:54:30 pm
Bourbon County Regular, Coffee, and Backyard hit Total Wines in VA today. No Barleywine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2013, 04:40:07 pm
they had backyard rye?!?  hope you grabbed some (and bring it to the next bottle share ;D)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 02, 2013, 04:42:35 pm
Backyard Was sold out when i got to both stores.

TW Springfield said it sold out as soon as it got in the door. There were 12 people standing in line waiting for the truck to arrive.

WF Fairfax posted that they got it a little while ago. i'm not even bothering with trying.


Quote from: sweetcell on December 02, 2013, 04:40:07 pm
they had backyard rye?!?  hope you grabbed some (and bring it to the next bottle share ;D)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 02, 2013, 09:17:23 pm
drank a boneyard hop venom two nights ago. damn is that a fine beer. 

i'd put it somewhere between heady and pliny, it's that good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 04, 2013, 09:53:44 pm
Wow, Ab InBev got a lot of money from me this week. I feel like atomicfront picked my pocket.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on December 04, 2013, 10:18:42 pm
i've really been enjoying the Bluejacket beers -- no huge showstoppers for me, but a lot of quality.

bird of prey on cask is my favorite so far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on December 04, 2013, 10:25:32 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on November 12, 2013, 02:37:34 pm
I went to Bluejacket over the weekend. The space is amazing but the beers were average at best. Debuting with 20+ beers seemed like a bit much. I'm sure over time they'll get better, but right now I don't see a reason to go back just yet. It was also incredibly crowded for 4pm.

weekday lunch is the way to go if you can swing it -- bartenders are chatty and generous on the tasters
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 05, 2013, 07:31:35 pm
$50 in food and drinks for $25 today on City Paper Real Deal. That's a lot of beer on half price draft Wednesdays.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2013, 07:55:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 05, 2013, 07:31:35 pm
$50 in food and drinks for $25 today on City Paper Real Deal. That's a lot of beer on half price draft Wednesdays.

prolly shoulda mentioned this is for the Smoke & Barrel ;D

thanks for the heads-up.  nabbed one.

edit: if you're going to buy one anyways, why not click my link: http://realdeal.washingtoncitypaper.com/r/2a5c8de211745 - if 3 people use this link, i get mine for free.  no cost to you.  thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on December 05, 2013, 08:22:15 pm
I love Smoke & Barrel, just bought 1 using your link, thanks for posting
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 05, 2013, 08:22:32 pm
sorry, we already purchased...same offer for Meridian Pint too, but i don't think they have the same half price draft night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 11:27:10 am
Another good City Paper Real Deal today.

$8 gets you a brand new 32 oz growler filled with any beer on draft (I don't think it includes the ultra-premium stuff, but I got a nice Belgian trippel when I did the deal in the summer) at P St Whole Foods.

Great deal if you're in need of a 32 oz growler (which I've found to be much more practical than 64 oz growlers).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 06, 2013, 11:51:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 11:27:10 am
Another good City Paper Real Deal today.

$8 gets you a brand new 32 oz growler filled with any beer on draft (I don't think it includes the ultra-premium stuff

the fine print says "Offer good towards one 32 oz. or 64 oz. growler ($5 value) filled with up to $10 worth of beer".  so sounds like you need to choose a beer that costs $10 or less to fill.  if you get a 64 oz, you're not getting anything premium for $10.  you should still be able to get something very nice, and likely to not knock you unconscious after 64 oz of it ;D

another great deal.  city paper is delivering!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 12:20:07 pm
Ah, ok. Maybe another reason why I went with the 32 oz. This was the beer I got with that deal.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/48/13889

Pretty rate, highly rated, and delicious. And it was $10 or less for 32 oz.

I think it's the house beer for this cool little pub that I've walked by twice but didn't go in either time while in Bruges (I think the first time we were there because it wasn't baby friendly, and the second time because it happened to be closed.)


Quote from: sweetcell on December 06, 2013, 11:51:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 11:27:10 am
Another good City Paper Real Deal today.

$8 gets you a brand new 32 oz growler filled with any beer on draft (I don't think it includes the ultra-premium stuff

the fine print says "Offer good towards one 32 oz. or 64 oz. growler ($5 value) filled with up to $10 worth of beer".  so sounds like you need to choose a beer that costs $10 or less to fill.  if you get a 64 oz, you're not getting anything premium for $10.  you should still be able to get something very nice, and likely to not knock you unconscious after 64 oz of it ;D

another great deal.  city paper is delivering!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 06, 2013, 12:27:36 pm
All the locals on facebook have lost their shit over this:

http://rvamag.com/articles/full/22712/oh-the-humanity-hardywood-loses-1500-gallons-of-bourbon-gingerbread-stout
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 12:36:27 pm
Some of you may already know this story but....

I bought four bottles of their regular GBS last month. A couple hours later I had it on draft and HATED it. So I traded the four bottles, and got some really nice stuff in return.

Can only imagine what trade values these are going to have.


Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on December 06, 2013, 12:27:36 pm
All the locals on facebook have lost their shit over this:

http://rvamag.com/articles/full/22712/oh-the-humanity-hardywood-loses-1500-gallons-of-bourbon-gingerbread-stout
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 06, 2013, 12:40:41 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 12:36:27 pm


Can only imagine what trade values these are going to have.


Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on December 06, 2013, 12:27:36 pm
All the locals on facebook have lost their shit over this:

http://rvamag.com/articles/full/22712/oh-the-humanity-hardywood-loses-1500-gallons-of-bourbon-gingerbread-stout

Most likely the cost of the bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 12:46:42 pm
I guess I meant based on what I was being offered for the regular stuff, I can only imagine what people will offer for the bourbon aged, now (more) rare version.

Quote from: Yada on December 06, 2013, 12:40:41 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 12:36:27 pm


Can only imagine what trade values these are going to have.


Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on December 06, 2013, 12:27:36 pm
All the locals on facebook have lost their shit over this:

http://rvamag.com/articles/full/22712/oh-the-humanity-hardywood-loses-1500-gallons-of-bourbon-gingerbread-stout

Most likely the cost of the bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 06, 2013, 04:41:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 04, 2013, 09:53:44 pm
Wow, Ab InBev got a lot of money from me this week. I feel like atomicfront picked my pocket.

Actually I sold after 3 weeks of owning it.  It went up 9 percent in 3 weeks and I felt it was overvalued to begin with.  So no more money to me.  If it goes back down I will buy again but until then if you are in China use China Mobile.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 06, 2013, 05:56:21 pm
in case there are any other rockville residents reading this: Dawson's Market, in rockville center, will start filling growlers "very soon."  they have the equipment in place, just waiting for their growler bottles to come in.  MoCo law says they can only fill "containers branded in the name of the license holder" so that means that can't fill external growlers... but the guy i spoke with wondered aloud if putting a Dawsons sticker on your growler constituted "branding".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 06:06:37 pm
It warms my heart that my financial loss was not your financial gain.

Quote from: atomic on December 06, 2013, 04:41:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 04, 2013, 09:53:44 pm
Wow, Ab InBev got a lot of money from me this week. I feel like atomicfront picked my pocket.

Actually I sold after 3 weeks of owning it.  It went up 9 percent in 3 weeks and I felt it was overvalued to begin with.  So no more money to me.  If it goes back down I will buy again but until then if you are in China use China Mobile.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 06, 2013, 07:44:15 pm
 Turn your beer bottles into cool glasses  (http://www.collegeenvy.com/2013/04/16/turn-your-beer-bottles-into-glass-cups-5-easy-steps/#.UqJg-sRDuSo)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 06, 2013, 09:40:34 pm
Just another weekend at Fairfax Whole Foods...

And then there are the kegs. Dear, sweet delicious kegs. Here are a few options you can expect to see on tap in the next few days...
Terrapin White Chocolate Moo
Widmer Gentleman's Club
Victory Braumeister Pils
Victory Harvest Ale
Victory DirtWolf
Bear Republic Racer X
Founders Backwoods Bastard (yup, got another keg)
Founders Sweet Repute
Goose Island BCBS
Great Lakes Blackout Stout
I don't know about you, but I think it's going to be a good weekend.
Cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 07, 2013, 10:29:06 am
Quote from: Shemp on December 06, 2013, 07:44:15 pm
Turn your beer bottles into cool glasses  (http://www.collegeenvy.com/2013/04/16/turn-your-beer-bottles-into-glass-cups-5-easy-steps/#.UqJg-sRDuSo)

Done this. Mine happen to be Stone as well. Not hard at all but you do ruin a few along the way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 01:00:51 pm
Facing down the storm with a 32 oz growler of Founders Sweet Repute. I think we're ready!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 02:12:08 pm
Is that a different beer than BCBS? 64 oz growler?

Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 08, 2013, 02:21:51 pm
what is it about beer and snow... they go together welll...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2013, 02:40:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 02:12:08 pm
Is that a different beer than BCBS? 64 oz growler?

Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada

I don't think I understand your question?

Bomber = large bottle
BCCS = coffee
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 03:42:09 pm
Oops, I was focused on growlers. My bad. Whole Foods had 32 oz of Regular BCBS for $14, which was a pretty good deal too.

The 12 oz bottles of 2013 were around $6, so is $14 for a bomber really that good? But yes, that's  indeed a discount on what most places charged for a 2012 bottle.

And I think you're missing a "B" somewhere. Wouldn't it be BCBCS?  ;)

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1549/57747


Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 02:40:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 02:12:08 pm
Is that a different beer than BCBS? 64 oz growler?

Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada

I don't think I understand your question?

Bomber = large bottle
BCCS = coffee
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2013, 04:50:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 03:42:09 pm
Oops, I was focused on growlers. My bad. Whole Foods had 32 oz of Regular BCBS for $14, which was a pretty good deal too.

The 12 oz bottles of 2013 were around $6, so is $14 for a bomber really that good? But yes, that's  indeed a discount on what most places charged for a 2012 bottle.

And I think you're missing a "B" somewhere. Wouldn't it be BCBCS?  ;)

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1549/57747


Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 02:40:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 02:12:08 pm
Is that a different beer than BCBS? 64 oz growler?

Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada

I don't think I understand your question?

Bomber = large bottle
BCCS = coffee

I suppose I'm missing a B... however, I've never seen a 12oz bottle of coffee, only bombers which last year were around $22, at least where I purchased them and around $28 to $30 in restaurants/bars.

So to have it for $14, I consider it a good deal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 04:56:20 pm
Ah, I see.

I got a bomber of Coffee for $12 last year. I remember it being mispriced, now I know by how much!


Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 04:50:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 03:42:09 pm
Oops, I was focused on growlers. My bad. Whole Foods had 32 oz of Regular BCBS for $14, which was a pretty good deal too.

The 12 oz bottles of 2013 were around $6, so is $14 for a bomber really that good? But yes, that's  indeed a discount on what most places charged for a 2012 bottle.

And I think you're missing a "B" somewhere. Wouldn't it be BCBCS?  ;)

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1549/57747


Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 02:40:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 02:12:08 pm
Is that a different beer than BCBS? 64 oz growler?

Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada

I don't think I understand your question?

Bomber = large bottle
BCCS = coffee

I suppose I'm missing a B... however, I've never seen a 12oz bottle of coffee, only bombers which last year were around $22, at least where I purchased them and around $28 to $30 in restaurants/bars.

So to have it for $14, I consider it a good deal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 08, 2013, 04:58:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 04:50:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 03:42:09 pm
Oops, I was focused on growlers. My bad. Whole Foods had 32 oz of Regular BCBS for $14, which was a pretty good deal too.

The 12 oz bottles of 2013 were around $6, so is $14 for a bomber really that good? But yes, that's  indeed a discount on what most places charged for a 2012 bottle.

And I think you're missing a "B" somewhere. Wouldn't it be BCBCS?  ;)

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1549/57747


Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 02:40:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 02:12:08 pm
Is that a different beer than BCBS? 64 oz growler?

Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada

I don't think I understand your question?

Bomber = large bottle
BCCS = coffee

I suppose I'm missing a B... however, I've never seen a 12oz bottle of coffee, only bombers which last year were around $22, at least where I purchased them and around $28 to $30 in restaurants/bars.

So to have it for $14, I consider it a good deal.

dont let james ford kill your buzz man....it is a good deal!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2013, 05:13:37 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 08, 2013, 04:58:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 04:50:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 03:42:09 pm
Oops, I was focused on growlers. My bad. Whole Foods had 32 oz of Regular BCBS for $14, which was a pretty good deal too.

The 12 oz bottles of 2013 were around $6, so is $14 for a bomber really that good? But yes, that's  indeed a discount on what most places charged for a 2012 bottle.

And I think you're missing a "B" somewhere. Wouldn't it be BCBCS?  ;)

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1549/57747


Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 02:40:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 02:12:08 pm
Is that a different beer than BCBS? 64 oz growler?

Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada

I don't think I understand your question?

Bomber = large bottle
BCCS = coffee

I suppose I'm missing a B... however, I've never seen a 12oz bottle of coffee, only bombers which last year were around $22, at least where I purchased them and around $28 to $30 in restaurants/bars.

So to have it for $14, I consider it a good deal.

dont let james ford kill your buzz man....it is a good deal!

And to get even more James Fordish, my buddy and I split it, so I actually had about 11ozs for $7... not too shabby!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 08, 2013, 05:17:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 05:13:37 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 08, 2013, 04:58:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 04:50:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 03:42:09 pm
Oops, I was focused on growlers. My bad. Whole Foods had 32 oz of Regular BCBS for $14, which was a pretty good deal too.

The 12 oz bottles of 2013 were around $6, so is $14 for a bomber really that good? But yes, that's  indeed a discount on what most places charged for a 2012 bottle.

And I think you're missing a "B" somewhere. Wouldn't it be BCBCS?  ;)

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1549/57747


Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 02:40:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 08, 2013, 02:12:08 pm
Is that a different beer than BCBS? 64 oz growler?

Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada

I don't think I understand your question?

Bomber = large bottle
BCCS = coffee

I suppose I'm missing a B... however, I've never seen a 12oz bottle of coffee, only bombers which last year were around $22, at least where I purchased them and around $28 to $30 in restaurants/bars.

So to have it for $14, I consider it a good deal.

dont let james ford kill your buzz man....it is a good deal!

And to get even more James Fordish, my buddy and I split it, so I actually had about 11ozs for $7... not too shabby!

James Fordish would add the tax in there I think.... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 09, 2013, 09:53:05 am
Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada
are there any left?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 09, 2013, 10:09:24 am
Quote from: brennser on December 09, 2013, 09:53:05 am
Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
Deal of the weekend.

$14 bombers of 2012 BCCS at Smith Commons because they thought it was old.

Score one for Yada
are there any left?

They had at least two when we were there as he went upstairs because he thought we both wanted a bottle. If we didn't have somewhere to be, we would've drank both... but as of Saturday at 10pm, they had at least a bottle left.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2013, 02:34:08 pm
Jimmy, have you seen Jai Alai yet in the DMV area?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 02:57:55 pm
If by Jimmy, you mean James, and not Jim James...

It came to NoVA, but not MD or DC.


Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2013, 02:34:08 pm
Jimmy, have you seen Jai Alai yet in the DMV area?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2013, 03:20:48 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 02:57:55 pm
If by Jimmy, you mean James, and not Jim James...

It came to NoVA, but not MD or DC.


Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2013, 02:34:08 pm
Jimmy, have you seen Jai Alai yet in the DMV area?

How much we lookin' at for a sixer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 11, 2013, 04:13:56 pm
when i quit drinking three months ago . . . i thought i would miss all the fancy pants beers.  but i dont.  i look at it as, a cult now.  sort of like, beertology, where tom booze is the head ot vii brewer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2013, 04:16:12 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 11, 2013, 04:13:56 pm
when i quit drinking three months ago . . . i thought i would miss all the fancy pants beers.  but i dont.  i look at it as, a cult now.  sort of like, beertology, where tom booze is the head ot vii brewer.

Why do you purchase beer when you're not drinking?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 11, 2013, 04:17:07 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 11, 2013, 04:13:56 pm
when i quit drinking three months ago . . . i thought i would miss all the fancy pants beers.  but i dont.  i look at it as, a cult now.  sort of like, beertology, where tom booze is the head ot vii brewer.

Congratulations.  I quit drinking on Sunday.  Four days sober. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 11, 2013, 04:20:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2013, 04:16:12 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 11, 2013, 04:13:56 pm
when i quit drinking three months ago . . . i thought i would miss all the fancy pants beers.  but i dont.  i look at it as, a cult now.  sort of like, beertology, where tom booze is the head ot vii brewer.

Why do you purchase beer when you're not drinking?

i havent purchased beer in those three months, either.  why would i do that?  i drink water now as my only liquid intake.  makes a world of a difference, in reality.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2013, 04:25:43 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 11, 2013, 04:20:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2013, 04:16:12 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 11, 2013, 04:13:56 pm
when i quit drinking three months ago . . . i thought i would miss all the fancy pants beers.  but i dont.  i look at it as, a cult now.  sort of like, beertology, where tom booze is the head ot vii brewer.

Why do you purchase beer when you're not drinking?

i havent purchased beer in those three months, either.  why would i do that?  i drink water now as my only liquid intake.  makes a world of a difference, in reality.

the internet doesn't lie.

http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=19630.msg371071#msg371071

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 11, 2013, 04:29:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2013, 04:25:43 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 11, 2013, 04:20:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2013, 04:16:12 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 11, 2013, 04:13:56 pm
when i quit drinking three months ago . . . i thought i would miss all the fancy pants beers.  but i dont.  i look at it as, a cult now.  sort of like, beertology, where tom booze is the head ot vii brewer.

Why do you purchase beer when you're not drinking?

i havent purchased beer in those three months, either.  why would i do that?  i drink water now as my only liquid intake.  makes a world of a difference, in reality.

the internet doesn't lie.

http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=19630.msg371071#msg371071




Well that post was from just about 3 months ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 04:49:12 pm
$10.99/six pack at Total Wine, probably $11.99 at Whole Foods. First round probably sold out at some places.

Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2013, 03:20:48 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 02:57:55 pm
If by Jimmy, you mean James, and not Jim James...

It came to NoVA, but not MD or DC.


Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2013, 02:34:08 pm
Jimmy, have you seen Jai Alai yet in the DMV area?

How much we lookin' at for a sixer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 04:51:21 pm
I typically drink six ounces of beer a day. Maybe 12 ounces on a weekend day. And much, much more one day every couple of months when there is a 9:30 forum bottle share.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 11, 2013, 05:02:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 04:51:21 pm
I typically drink six ounces of beer a day. Maybe 12 ounces on a weekend day. And much, much more one day every couple of months when there is a 9:30 forum bottle share.

How do you drink 6 ounces of beer.  What do you do throw half your beer away?   You sure talk a lot about beer for someone who doesn't drink it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 06:39:46 pm
I split 12 oz with my wife. That's still a potential for having 365 different beers in a year.

Though tonight we're going a little crazy and each having our own 12 oz can of Jai Alai IPA.

Quote from: atomic on December 11, 2013, 05:02:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 04:51:21 pm
I typically drink six ounces of beer a day. Maybe 12 ounces on a weekend day. And much, much more one day every couple of months when there is a 9:30 forum bottle share.

How do you drink 6 ounces of beer.  What do you do throw half your beer away?   You sure talk a lot about beer for someone who doesn't drink it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 11, 2013, 06:54:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 06:39:46 pm
I split 12 oz with my wife. That's still a potential for having 365 different beers in a year.

Though tonight we're going a little crazy and each having our own 12 oz can of Jai Alai IPA.

Quote from: atomic on December 11, 2013, 05:02:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 04:51:21 pm
I typically drink six ounces of beer a day. Maybe 12 ounces on a weekend day. And much, much more one day every couple of months when there is a 9:30 forum bottle share.

How do you drink 6 ounces of beer.  What do you do throw half your beer away?   You sure talk a lot about beer for someone who doesn't drink it.

Spliting a 12 oz bottle of beer.  Now I have heard everything.   What did you do in the beirgartens when they gave you a liter serving size? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 07:16:02 pm
Split a liter. Actually split two liters of two different beers. We drink more when we're on vacation, if we're not driving.

How about you?


Quote from: atomic on December 11, 2013, 06:54:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 06:39:46 pm
I split 12 oz with my wife. That's still a potential for having 365 different beers in a year.

Though tonight we're going a little crazy and each having our own 12 oz can of Jai Alai IPA.

Quote from: atomic on December 11, 2013, 05:02:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 04:51:21 pm
I typically drink six ounces of beer a day. Maybe 12 ounces on a weekend day. And much, much more one day every couple of months when there is a 9:30 forum bottle share.

How do you drink 6 ounces of beer.  What do you do throw half your beer away?   You sure talk a lot about beer for someone who doesn't drink it.

Spliting a 12 oz bottle of beer.  Now I have heard everything.   What did you do in the beirgartens when they gave you a liter serving size? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 11, 2013, 07:18:45 pm
fascinating.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 07:23:55 pm
I agree. Almost as fascinating as some of the scintillating conversations that take place on Facebook.

Quote from: walkonby on December 11, 2013, 07:18:45 pm
fascinating.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 11, 2013, 07:30:13 pm
facebook . . . is the antichrist.  with pictures of ugly kids.  and birthday wishes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 07:42:40 pm
The Bruery Night Tap Takeover/Rare Bottle Raffle on 12/18 at Georgetown - See more at: http://www.eatyourpizza.com/the-bruery-night-tap-takeoverrare-bottle-raffle-on-1218-at-georgetown/#sthash.QJsXsU7o.dpuf

Half price draft of Bruery beers. Oooh. That could be good. That could be really good. Might have to have more than 6 ounces of beer that night too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 11, 2013, 07:49:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 07:16:02 pm
Split a liter. Actually split two liters of two different beers. We drink more when we're on vacation, if we're not driving.

How about you?


Quote from: atomic on December 11, 2013, 06:54:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 06:39:46 pm
I split 12 oz with my wife. That's still a potential for having 365 different beers in a year.

Though tonight we're going a little crazy and each having our own 12 oz can of Jai Alai IPA.

Quote from: atomic on December 11, 2013, 05:02:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 04:51:21 pm
I typically drink six ounces of beer a day. Maybe 12 ounces on a weekend day. And much, much more one day every couple of months when there is a 9:30 forum bottle share.

How do you drink 6 ounces of beer.  What do you do throw half your beer away?   You sure talk a lot about beer for someone who doesn't drink it.

Spliting a 12 oz bottle of beer.  Now I have heard everything.   What did you do in the beirgartens when they gave you a liter serving size? 

My 78 year old mother drank 2 liters of beer a sitting. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 07:55:11 pm
That's what she told me last night.

Quote from: atomic on December 11, 2013, 07:49:37 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 07:16:02 pm
Split a liter. Actually split two liters of two different beers. We drink more when we're on vacation, if we're not driving.

How about you?


Quote from: atomic on December 11, 2013, 06:54:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 06:39:46 pm
I split 12 oz with my wife. That's still a potential for having 365 different beers in a year.

Though tonight we're going a little crazy and each having our own 12 oz can of Jai Alai IPA.

Quote from: atomic on December 11, 2013, 05:02:54 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 11, 2013, 04:51:21 pm
I typically drink six ounces of beer a day. Maybe 12 ounces on a weekend day. And much, much more one day every couple of months when there is a 9:30 forum bottle share.

How do you drink 6 ounces of beer.  What do you do throw half your beer away?   You sure talk a lot about beer for someone who doesn't drink it.

Spliting a 12 oz bottle of beer.  Now I have heard everything.   What did you do in the beirgartens when they gave you a liter serving size? 

My 78 year old mother drank 2 liters of beer a sitting. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 10:07:50 am
The beer wars have begun.

From Citizen's Brewing Company:

This weekend we received a surprise from DC Brau Brewing Company in the form of a Cease & Desist letter. We'll take their threat of litigation as a compliment. They believe in our success just as much as we do! In order to focus on opening our doors in Summer 2014 and creating the best brewery we can for you, we're changing our name and announcing the new moniker later today. We're proud to be bringing craft beer to downtown Silver Spring no matter what name you call us!

Probably best to not name your brewery after a less than mediocre beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 10:18:10 am
I think that most of the cease and desist stuff that goes on with brewery/beer names is rubbish, but that one makes a bit of sense.

Why would you pick a name for your brewery that is already taken by a beer produced in the same Metro region?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 10:21:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 10:18:10 am
I think that most of the cease and desist stuff that goes on with brewery/beer names is rubbish, but that one makes a bit of sense.

Why would you pick a name for your brewery that is already taken by a beer produced in the same Metro region?

Especially one that tastes like garbage.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 10:38:20 am
Agreed.

Only their three basic beers make it to my local WF shelf. Wish either the hefe or the porter did instead of Citizen. I see them both in DC WF.

Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 10:21:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 10:18:10 am
I think that most of the cease and desist stuff that goes on with brewery/beer names is rubbish, but that one makes a bit of sense.

Why would you pick a name for your brewery that is already taken by a beer produced in the same Metro region?

Especially one that tastes like garbage.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on December 12, 2013, 10:40:34 am
I'm surprised they still brew the Citizen as one of their 3 main year-round beers. It's weak and I can't imagine the sales are very good compared to the Public or Corruption.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 10:46:38 am
I can't remember if I posted about my Three Stars visit, but I have to say I was highly impressed with everything I tasted there, especially the Zombie Date Night.

As a whole, I think the beer there was much better than DC Brau, however, OTWOA is still my favorite DC brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 11:14:03 am
I guess I'm the only one with a less than stellar review of Three Stars. Maybe because it was crowded and uncomfortable with two kids in tow (one ours, one a friend with his kid), whereas we've always had seats at DC Brau. The beers were pretty good, but not worth the high growler prices they were charging.

Anybody been to Atlas or Right Proper yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 11:30:58 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 11:14:03 am
I guess I'm the only one with a less than stellar review of Three Stars. Maybe because it was crowded and uncomfortable with two kids in tow (one ours, one a friend with his kid), whereas we've always had seats at DC Brau. The beers were pretty good, but not worth the high growler prices they were charging.

Anybody been to Atlas or Right Proper yet?

What do you consider high prices for a growler? I don't buy them enough to know, but $16 for 64 oz of a high ABV tasty beverage seems fair to me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 12:42:13 pm
I guess I'm comparing prices to four or six packs. I can get 48 ozs of DirtWolf for 8 bucks or 72 ozs of the Truth for $10. And I don't have to drive an hour and already own a growler to get it.


Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 11:30:58 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 11:14:03 am
I guess I'm the only one with a less than stellar review of Three Stars. Maybe because it was crowded and uncomfortable with two kids in tow (one ours, one a friend with his kid), whereas we've always had seats at DC Brau. The beers were pretty good, but not worth the high growler prices they were charging.

Anybody been to Atlas or Right Proper yet?

What do you consider high prices for a growler? I don't buy them enough to know, but $16 for 64 oz of a high ABV tasty beverage seems fair to me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 12, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Went to a holiday get together for work at a local American Tap Room last night.   Mostly a waste of taps-till I discovered the unadvertised Lagunitas Brown Shugga!  Yummy!
Wondered why I was moving a little slow today, until  I realized it was 10%...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:30:46 pm
Yes, excellent beer!


And at $10 for a six pack, a much better deal than a $16 growler of 3 Stars.

Quote from: Bagley on December 12, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Went to a holiday get together for work at a local American Tap Room last night.   Mostly a waste of taps-till I discovered the unadvertised Lagunitas Brown Shugga!  Yummy!
Wondered why I was moving a little slow today, until  I realized it was 10%...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 02:38:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:30:46 pm
Yes, excellent beer!


And at $10 for a six pack, a much better deal than a $16 growler of 3 Stars.

Quote from: Bagley on December 12, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Went to a holiday get together for work at a local American Tap Room last night.   Mostly a waste of taps-till I discovered the unadvertised Lagunitas Brown Shugga!  Yummy!
Wondered why I was moving a little slow today, until  I realized it was 10%...

I take it you're the kinda guy that will drive an hour to save $2?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:59:13 pm
Nope, I wouldn't. Thankfully I live within walking distance of a Whole Foods and within 10 miles of three different Total Wines and two Trader Joes (maybe more). I choose to live where they don't have retardedly high prices.


Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 02:38:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:30:46 pm
Yes, excellent beer!


And at $10 for a six pack, a much better deal than a $16 growler of 3 Stars.

Quote from: Bagley on December 12, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Went to a holiday get together for work at a local American Tap Room last night.   Mostly a waste of taps-till I discovered the unadvertised Lagunitas Brown Shugga!  Yummy!
Wondered why I was moving a little slow today, until  I realized it was 10%...

I take it you're the kinda guy that will drive an hour to save $2?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 03:08:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:59:13 pm
Nope, I wouldn't. Thankfully I live within walking distance of a Whole Foods and within 10 miles of three different Total Wines and two Trader Joes (maybe more). I choose to live where they don't have retardedly high prices.


Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 02:38:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:30:46 pm
Yes, excellent beer!


And at $10 for a six pack, a much better deal than a $16 growler of 3 Stars.

Quote from: Bagley on December 12, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Went to a holiday get together for work at a local American Tap Room last night.   Mostly a waste of taps-till I discovered the unadvertised Lagunitas Brown Shugga!  Yummy!
Wondered why I was moving a little slow today, until  I realized it was 10%...

I take it you're the kinda guy that will drive an hour to save $2?

It must be hard to choose between all of the good breweries in VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 04:21:44 pm
Hard to choose what? Not sure what you're getting at. You're losing me.

But if you're trying to slag VA breweries, I'll just say that Alewerks makes as good a beer (Bitter Valentine) as any beer brewed in DC or MD. And fwiw, Devil's Backbone (VA)  won more medals at GABF than all DC and MD breweries combined. Not to forget Hardywood (VA), whose Gingerbread Stout recently bagged me a couple of amazing beer trades.  ;D

Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 03:08:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:59:13 pm
Nope, I wouldn't. Thankfully I live within walking distance of a Whole Foods and within 10 miles of three different Total Wines and two Trader Joes (maybe more). I choose to live where they don't have retardedly high prices.


Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 02:38:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:30:46 pm
Yes, excellent beer!


And at $10 for a six pack, a much better deal than a $16 growler of 3 Stars.

Quote from: Bagley on December 12, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Went to a holiday get together for work at a local American Tap Room last night.   Mostly a waste of taps-till I discovered the unadvertised Lagunitas Brown Shugga!  Yummy!
Wondered why I was moving a little slow today, until  I realized it was 10%...

I take it you're the kinda guy that will drive an hour to save $2?

It must be hard to choose between all of the good breweries in VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 04:37:25 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 04:21:44 pm
Hard to choose what? Not sure what you're getting at. You're losing me.

But if you're trying to slag VA breweries, I'll just say that Alewerks makes as good a beer (Bitter Valentine) as any beer brewed in DC or MD. And fwiw, Devil's Backbone (VA)  won more medals at GABF than all DC and MD breweries combined. Not to forget Hardywood (VA), whose Gingerbread Stout recently bagged me a couple of amazing beer trades.  ;D

Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 03:08:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:59:13 pm
Nope, I wouldn't. Thankfully I live within walking distance of a Whole Foods and within 10 miles of three different Total Wines and two Trader Joes (maybe more). I choose to live where they don't have retardedly high prices.


Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 02:38:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:30:46 pm
Yes, excellent beer!


And at $10 for a six pack, a much better deal than a $16 growler of 3 Stars.

Quote from: Bagley on December 12, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Went to a holiday get together for work at a local American Tap Room last night.   Mostly a waste of taps-till I discovered the unadvertised Lagunitas Brown Shugga!  Yummy!
Wondered why I was moving a little slow today, until  I realized it was 10%...

I take it you're the kinda guy that will drive an hour to save $2?

It must be hard to choose between all of the good breweries in VA.

Your post comparing a $10 six pack to Three Stars made about as much sense. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 04:51:47 pm
I thought you wanted to know my opinion on the price of a 64 oz $16 growler of high abv, high quality beer.

I thought that sounded high since I can get 72 ozs of high quality high abv beer for $10 in bottles. And for me, at a much more convenient location.

How does that not make sense?


Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 04:37:25 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 04:21:44 pm
Hard to choose what? Not sure what you're getting at. You're losing me.

But if you're trying to slag VA breweries, I'll just say that Alewerks makes as good a beer (Bitter Valentine) as any beer brewed in DC or MD. And fwiw, Devil's Backbone (VA)  won more medals at GABF than all DC and MD breweries combined. Not to forget Hardywood (VA), whose Gingerbread Stout recently bagged me a couple of amazing beer trades.  ;D

Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 03:08:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:59:13 pm
Nope, I wouldn't. Thankfully I live within walking distance of a Whole Foods and within 10 miles of three different Total Wines and two Trader Joes (maybe more). I choose to live where they don't have retardedly high prices.


Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 02:38:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:30:46 pm
Yes, excellent beer!


And at $10 for a six pack, a much better deal than a $16 growler of 3 Stars.

Quote from: Bagley on December 12, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Went to a holiday get together for work at a local American Tap Room last night.   Mostly a waste of taps-till I discovered the unadvertised Lagunitas Brown Shugga!  Yummy!
Wondered why I was moving a little slow today, until  I realized it was 10%...

I take it you're the kinda guy that will drive an hour to save $2?

It must be hard to choose between all of the good breweries in VA.

Your post comparing a $10 six pack to Three Stars made about as much sense. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 04:54:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 04:51:47 pm
I thought you wanted to know my opinion on the price of a 64 oz $16 growler of high abv, high quality beer.

I thought that sounded high since I can get 72 ozs of high quality high abv beer for $10 in bottles. And for me, at a much more convenient location.

How does that not make sense?


Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 04:37:25 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 04:21:44 pm
Hard to choose what? Not sure what you're getting at. You're losing me.

But if you're trying to slag VA breweries, I'll just say that Alewerks makes as good a beer (Bitter Valentine) as any beer brewed in DC or MD. And fwiw, Devil's Backbone (VA)  won more medals at GABF than all DC and MD breweries combined. Not to forget Hardywood (VA), whose Gingerbread Stout recently bagged me a couple of amazing beer trades.  ;D

Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 03:08:45 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:59:13 pm
Nope, I wouldn't. Thankfully I live within walking distance of a Whole Foods and within 10 miles of three different Total Wines and two Trader Joes (maybe more). I choose to live where they don't have retardedly high prices.


Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 02:38:03 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 02:30:46 pm
Yes, excellent beer!


And at $10 for a six pack, a much better deal than a $16 growler of 3 Stars.

Quote from: Bagley on December 12, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Went to a holiday get together for work at a local American Tap Room last night.   Mostly a waste of taps-till I discovered the unadvertised Lagunitas Brown Shugga!  Yummy!
Wondered why I was moving a little slow today, until  I realized it was 10%...

I take it you're the kinda guy that will drive an hour to save $2?

It must be hard to choose between all of the good breweries in VA.

Your post comparing a $10 six pack to Three Stars made about as much sense. 

You still haven't answered my question about what's the a fair price for a growler fresh from a brewery?

Six packs/Four pack prices = / = growler prices. So I guess I'll rephrase it... Assuming you buy growlers at Whole Foods in a 10 minute radius to your home, what is a fair price?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 05:08:13 pm
I generally only buy growlers of stuff that isn't sold in bottles. Unless the growler price is excellent and I can't find a bottle of it. For example, Founders Sweet Repute sold for about $19 for a 26 oz bottle, I got it on draft at $14 for 32 oz.


 And I generally limit myself to 32 oz growler fills since the product starts to degrade the minute you open it. Even 32 ozs is a stretch on the high abv beers.

Bottom line, if I can get it in a bottle, that's what I'm choosing. If I can't, the price has to be pretty sweet. What is pretty sweet? I know it when I see it. $16 for a Three Stars beer isn't sweet (in part because anything after 32 oz, the value declines for me).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 05:16:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 05:08:13 pm
I generally only buy growlers of stuff that isn't sold in bottles. Unless the growler price is excellent and I can't find a bottle of it. For example, Founders Sweet Repute sold for about $19 for a 26 oz bottle, I got it on draft at $14 for 32 oz.


 And I generally limit myself to 32 oz growler fills since the product starts to degrade the minute you open it. Even 32 ozs is a stretch on the high abv beers.

Bottom line, if I can get it in a bottle, that's what I'm choosing. If I can't, the price has to be pretty sweet. What is pretty sweet? I know it when I see it. $16 for a Three Stars beer isn't sweet (in part because anything after 32 oz, the value declines for me).

According to Jimmy Fordish logic though, a 32oz growler of Three Stars would actually be a great deal!

 :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 07:46:59 pm
Well, not really. But if you're happy with your purchase, that's the only logic that really matters.

Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 05:16:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 05:08:13 pm
I generally only buy growlers of stuff that isn't sold in bottles. Unless the growler price is excellent and I can't find a bottle of it. For example, Founders Sweet Repute sold for about $19 for a 26 oz bottle, I got it on draft at $14 for 32 oz.


 And I generally limit myself to 32 oz growler fills since the product starts to degrade the minute you open it. Even 32 ozs is a stretch on the high abv beers.

Bottom line, if I can get it in a bottle, that's what I'm choosing. If I can't, the price has to be pretty sweet. What is pretty sweet? I know it when I see it. $16 for a Three Stars beer isn't sweet (in part because anything after 32 oz, the value declines for me).

According to Jimmy Fordish logic though, a 32oz growler of Three Stars would actually be a great deal!

 :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 07:51:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 07:46:59 pm
Well, not really. But if you're happy with your purchase, that's the only logic that really matters.

Quote from: Yada on December 12, 2013, 05:16:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 12, 2013, 05:08:13 pm
I generally only buy growlers of stuff that isn't sold in bottles. Unless the growler price is excellent and I can't find a bottle of it. For example, Founders Sweet Repute sold for about $19 for a 26 oz bottle, I got it on draft at $14 for 32 oz.


 And I generally limit myself to 32 oz growler fills since the product starts to degrade the minute you open it. Even 32 ozs is a stretch on the high abv beers.

Bottom line, if I can get it in a bottle, that's what I'm choosing. If I can't, the price has to be pretty sweet. What is pretty sweet? I know it when I see it. $16 for a Three Stars beer isn't sweet (in part because anything after 32 oz, the value declines for me).

According to Jimmy Fordish logic though, a 32oz growler of Three Stars would actually be a great deal!

 :o :o :o :o


I didn't buy one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 14, 2013, 03:41:35 pm
I was just shopping at Whole Foods and voila...there was Lagunitas Sucks. $10.99/ six pack (will probablt be a dollar less at TW). At half the price of Hopslam, I'll be drinking the hell out of this (unless I score some Zombie Dust when I'm at Three Floyds next week) the next couple of months. They keep threatening to make it a 32 oz year round bottle, but you can't beat the budget six pack format.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 14, 2013, 05:04:47 pm
must not . . . give in.  had lunch at a quaint little cafe today, in a neat town called woodstock, va, that sells finer things and sells beer.  they had sucks and st bernardus christmas ale.  ughhh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 14, 2013, 05:14:01 pm
http://www.today.com/food/beer-concentrate-lets-you-take-brews-outdoor-adventure-2D11741579
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 14, 2013, 06:05:25 pm
why did you quit drinking beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 14, 2013, 08:33:22 pm
to force myself to change.  i felt i was drinking too much and i wanted to make sure i am not an alcoholic.  it runs in my family.  i quit drinking all alcohol, period.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 14, 2013, 09:16:31 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 14, 2013, 08:33:22 pm
to force myself to change.  i felt i was drinking too much and i wanted to make sure i am not an alcoholic.  it runs in my family.  i quit drinking all alcohol, period.

hm.. interesting... if its not too private how many weeks have you gone? and when you quit did you have any symptons of needing the alcohol or did you quit and it was like nothing.....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 14, 2013, 11:12:39 pm
being too personal . . . is my speciality.  i am odd.  but you know that.  when i quit smoking pot, i just quit.  no problems, no qualms.  years and years of doing it, and i just quit.  because i felt it was time to "grow up."  i know this is not the norm, but i feel my mind is a steel trap of mind over matter.  what my mind wants, does not matter.  the same could be said with alcohol.  to be more honest,  i scared myself one day . . . no actually during two days.  my drinking, on a normal everyday intake became like something you see on an old television episode where the person is drinking everything in the house without being able to stop.  during those two days in question, i drank like someone with a problem.  i could not stop and i did not want to.  i remember driving to a store, twenty minutes from where i live, intoxicated, more than likely reeking of alcohol, to get more of that precious beer.  i did not care.  i wanted that escape.  i saw it.  i saw it happen from the first, second and third perspective and i was altered.  who was this person i could become.  i scared myself more than i have ever been.  that was three months ago.  i told myself that very next day, you will quit drinking . . . or you will kill yoursef.  plain and simple.  put a gun to your head and kill yourself.  i became a mission.  i became a cause.  i knew that it ran in my family, and i knew it wanted me next.  but i am a strong minded human who believes i can do anything i want to in this section of life we are given on the planet earth.  use it wisely i tell myself.  use it well.  i am very proud of myself that i did what i did, and am equally proud that i so easily admit such things on a forum to complete strangers.  i know that not all people can just do what i did, even if they do believe that they have a "problem" as well.  i do not miss it, and i do not judge others that drink, for i simply tell myself . . . remember those two days.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 15, 2013, 12:10:22 am
Quote from: walkonby on December 14, 2013, 08:33:22 pm
to force myself to change.  i felt i was drinking too much and i wanted to make sure i am not an alcoholic.  it runs in my family.  i quit drinking all alcohol, period.

very cool.  takes power to do that.  congrats.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 15, 2013, 12:59:40 pm
Definitely congrats Walkie.. if you felt yourself losing control best to stop and reassert yourself..

 it can be hard to stop drinking alltogether because there are all these things that become linked with alcohol: hanging out with friends at a bar, going to concerts, celebratory toasts, eating a good steak, buffalo wings, etc... and that's the good part... the bad part, I think Hemingway does a good job of depicting it in the Sun Also Rises, "getting tight" or just needing a drink...

my body actually craves cigs far far more intensely...

For me, being on a tighter budget and with two young kids, its becoming harder to justify drinking particularly with the rising cost of it...I'm a bit of a glutton so I'm never going to be splitting a beer with somebody a la James Fordish...I'm going to pound back a few and it adds up...I suppose one could argue that the problem then isn't the alcohol but a lack of money...noted.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 15, 2013, 02:58:39 pm
whether i had a "real problem" or not is up for debate, but at this point i am enjoying the mental capacity it takes to drink water as my only liquid intake.  and yes, with the fact that pot and fancy pants beers are out of my life, i do save a lot of money. 

hugs . . . not drugs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 15, 2013, 03:14:36 pm
What are you doing with all the extra money?

Quote from: walkonby on December 15, 2013, 02:58:39 pm
whether i had a "real problem" or not is up for debate, but at this point i am enjoying the mental capacity it takes to drink water as my only liquid intake.  and yes, with the fact that pot and fancy pants beers are out of my life, i do save a lot of money. 

hugs . . . not drugs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 15, 2013, 03:31:26 pm
trips, cars, jewels, hookers, making it rain, gold chains, gold bars, gold cars, gold hookers.

just kidding . . . paying off bills, and getting published, is expensive nowadays.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 15, 2013, 03:48:49 pm
So what do you do when you go to an xmas party hosted by (wife's co-worker) someone who claims to be into beer and all they have on offer is a Magic Hat variety pack, some Sam Adams varieties, and some crappy German lager (Warsteiner). Does one drink the (superior) beer that one brought to the party, or is it rude not to drink the host's beer?

And how could someone claims to be into beer have such crap (and only crap) on offer?  The guy probably makes well into the six figures, so it's not like he has to be cheap, so that's not the reason for that selection. It's almost like you could walk into any decent beer store, and blindly grab four random six packs,  and come out with a better selection. It's almost like you'd have to purposely seek out the crap.

And yes, I was a graceful and gracious and polite and thankful guest (even though we had to eat only the food we brought because everyone else including the host brought meat dishes)...but i can bitch about the beer here, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 15, 2013, 03:53:11 pm
the one thing that always pissed me off about beer . . . was people who think all those beers you just named are "craft beers."  i would always bring my own beer to said functions, or any function.  such a move serves two purposes:  a, you drink the beer you want to, and b, you can turn on other people to what real beer is.  dont be suprised if atleast one person thinks you are a fucking snob and thinks you are a stuck up rich cunt.  oh shit, i said cunt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 15, 2013, 05:29:16 pm
Definitely rude to insist on drinking what one brings... one should give the beer to the host and then if the host decides to share it one can drink it...

The beer one brings is a gift... maybe the host wants to enjoy it the next day? or save it?

The only way to get around this is to bring two offerings and then if one tactfully says "hey do you mind opening this as I'd like to check it out..have heard great things..."

That way the host will still have a beer offering to save... a gift

To just walk in there and be like "hey i dont' give a shit what you offer i am bringing this and expect to drink it now" is rather gauche

On the other hand we've probably all done it on ocassion..


at least that is the way I see it..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 15, 2013, 05:48:54 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 14, 2013, 11:12:39 pm
being too personal . . . is my speciality.  i am odd.  but you know that.  when i quit smoking pot, i just quit.  no problems, no qualms.  years and years of doing it, and i just quit.  because i felt it was time to "grow up."  i know this is not the norm, but i feel my mind is a steel trap of mind over matter.  what my mind wants, does not matter.  the same could be said with alcohol.  to be more honest,  i scared myself one day . . . no actually during two days.  my drinking, on a normal everyday intake became like something you see on an old television episode where the person is drinking everything in the house without being able to stop.  during those two days in question, i drank like someone with a problem.  i could not stop and i did not want to.  i remember driving to a store, twenty minutes from where i live, intoxicated, more than likely reeking of alcohol, to get more of that precious beer.  i did not care.  i wanted that escape.  i saw it.  i saw it happen from the first, second and third perspective and i was altered.  who was this person i could become.  i scared myself more than i have ever been.  that was three months ago.  i told myself that very next day, you will quit drinking . . . or you will kill yoursef.  plain and simple.  put a gun to your head and kill yourself.  i became a mission.  i became a cause.  i knew that it ran in my family, and i knew it wanted me next.  but i am a strong minded human who believes i can do anything i want to in this section of life we are given on the planet earth.  use it wisely i tell myself.  use it well.  i am very proud of myself that i did what i did, and am equally proud that i so easily admit such things on a forum to complete strangers.  i know that not all people can just do what i did, even if they do believe that they have a "problem" as well.  i do not miss it, and i do not judge others that drink, for i simply tell myself . . . remember those two days.   

you rock man. good for you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 15, 2013, 06:09:57 pm
For the record, the host DID decide the share it. He said "Here, you can have some of what you you brought, or some of what I put out." And I did drink oneof his beers. (And none of the beer guests even brought beer.)

Quote from: hutch on December 15, 2013, 05:29:16 pm
Definitely rude to insist on drinking what one brings... one should give the beer to the host and then if the host decides to share it one can drink it...

The beer one brings is a gift... maybe the host wants to enjoy it the next day? or save it?

The only way to get around this is to bring two offerings and then if one tactfully says "hey do you mind opening this as I'd like to check it out..have heard great things..."

That way the host will still have a beer offering to save... a gift

To just walk in there and be like "hey i dont' give a shit what you offer i am bringing this and expect to drink it now" is rather gauche

On the other hand we've probably all done it on ocassion..


at least that is the way I see it..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 15, 2013, 08:07:35 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 15, 2013, 06:09:57 pm
For the record, the host DID decide the share it. He said "Here, you can have some of what you you brought, or some of what I put out." And I did drink oneof his beers. (And none of the beer guests even brought beer.)

yeah i think a good host would offer.....

"beer guests"?

 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 15, 2013, 08:20:44 pm
I'm pretty sure we've debated this in the past on here, but bring enough so you don't feel like a weasel drinking what you brought. I'm hoping you brought more than 24 oz of beer to the party...

I attended a holiday party last night and brought:

Two Heady Toppers
Two OTWOA
Two Breakfast Stouts
Two Oracles
Two Bell's Stoudts
Two Boulevard Doulbe Wide IPA's
Two All Day IPAs
Two Fat Tires


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 15, 2013, 09:11:22 pm
We brought a mixed six pack (two Uinta Dubh, two Sierra Celebration, two Flying Dog the Truth)) and a bomber of 2012 Trader Joe's Vintage Ale. Definitely more than we intended on drinking in a three hour party. Maybe a dozen adults there and most were drinking a glass or two of red wine....nobody drank any of the beer we brought (except us).






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Quote from: Yada on December 15, 2013, 08:20:44 pm
I'm pretty sure we've debated this in the past on here, but bring enough so you don't feel like a weasel drinking what you brought. I'm hoping you brought more than 24 oz of beer to the party...

I attended a holiday party last night and brought:

Two Heady Toppers
Two OTWOA
Two Breakfast Stouts
Two Oracles
Two Bell's Stoudts
Two Boulevard Doulbe Wide IPA's
Two All Day IPAs
Two Fat Tires



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 15, 2013, 09:46:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 15, 2013, 09:11:22 pm
We brought a mixed six pack (two Uinta Dubh, two Sierra Celebration, two Flying Dog the Truth)) and a bomber of 2012 Trader Joe's Vintage Ale. Definitely more than we intended on drinking in a three hour party. Maybe a dozen adults there and most were drinking a glass or two of red wine....nobody drank any of the beer we brought (except us).



wow... nicely done.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 15, 2013, 10:24:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 15, 2013, 03:48:49 pm
So what do you do when you go to an xmas party hosted by (wife's co-worker) someone who claims to be into beer and all they have on offer is a Magic Hat variety pack, some Sam Adams varieties, and some crappy German lager (Warsteiner). Does one drink the (superior) beer that one brought to the party, or is it rude not to drink the host's beer?

to be devil's advocate for a second: MH & SA are craft bers.  it shows some appreciation of taste - at least he didn't offer you Bud Platinum as his "fancy beer."

i'd be disappointed by that selection too, and i'd question how "into beer" this person is.  however, some perspective is called for.  realize what 90% of the population is drinking.  Ford, you're part of the 1%.  getting stuck in that middle 9%... could be worse.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 16, 2013, 08:13:16 am
Point taken, sort of...

Except I would say...fiftysomething PHD scientist no doubt making well into the six figures holds a small Christmas party for about a dozen people including the company president...assuming he has no taste in beer, no way is he serving Bud Platinum...he's without a doubt serving Stella.  ;D

Quote from: sweetcell on December 15, 2013, 10:24:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 15, 2013, 03:48:49 pm
So what do you do when you go to an xmas party hosted by (wife's co-worker) someone who claims to be into beer and all they have on offer is a Magic Hat variety pack, some Sam Adams varieties, and some crappy German lager (Warsteiner). Does one drink the (superior) beer that one brought to the party, or is it rude not to drink the host's beer?

to be devil's advocate for a second: MH & SA are craft bers.  it shows some appreciation of taste - at least he didn't offer you Bud Platinum as his "fancy beer."

i'd be disappointed by that selection too, and i'd question how "into beer" this person is.  however, some perspective is called for.  realize what 90% of the population is drinking.  Ford, you're part of the 1%.  getting stuck in that middle 9%... could be worse.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 16, 2013, 11:41:58 am
in preparation for heading home for the holidays... my parents went out to treehouse brewing for the first time this weekend to score some growlers of sap and green. it's a christmas miracle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 16, 2013, 03:24:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 14, 2013, 11:12:39 pm
being too personal . . . is my speciality.  i am odd.  but you know that.  when i quit smoking pot, i just quit.  no problems, no qualms.  years and years of doing it, and i just quit.  because i felt it was time to "grow up."  i know this is not the norm, but i feel my mind is a steel trap of mind over matter.  what my mind wants, does not matter.  the same could be said with alcohol.  to be more honest,  i scared myself one day . . . no actually during two days.  my drinking, on a normal everyday intake became like something you see on an old television episode where the person is drinking everything in the house without being able to stop.  during those two days in question, i drank like someone with a problem.  i could not stop and i did not want to.  i remember driving to a store, twenty minutes from where i live, intoxicated, more than likely reeking of alcohol, to get more of that precious beer.  i did not care.  i wanted that escape.  i saw it.  i saw it happen from the first, second and third perspective and i was altered.  who was this person i could become.  i scared myself more than i have ever been.  that was three months ago.  i told myself that very next day, you will quit drinking . . . or you will kill yoursef.  plain and simple.  put a gun to your head and kill yourself.  i became a mission.  i became a cause.  i knew that it ran in my family, and i knew it wanted me next.  but i am a strong minded human who believes i can do anything i want to in this section of life we are given on the planet earth.  use it wisely i tell myself.  use it well.  i am very proud of myself that i did what i did, and am equally proud that i so easily admit such things on a forum to complete strangers.  i know that not all people can just do what i did, even if they do believe that they have a "problem" as well.  i do not miss it, and i do not judge others that drink, for i simply tell myself . . . remember those two days.   

is this a free writing sample walky?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 16, 2013, 03:26:41 pm
yes, no charge.  one day, i hope, ill be good enough to make a buck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 17, 2013, 12:05:57 am
if i still drank . . . i would play this

http://imgur.com/yFjEMdc

oh, those crazy canadians.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 17, 2013, 02:32:49 pm
Ocelot, Ocelot, where has Walky gone?

http://ocelotbrewing.com/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 18, 2013, 12:03:31 am
Fairfax Whole Foods does it again...probably a good deal cheaper than other Goose Island tap takeovers! And no, I don't work for Goose Island.


THIRSTY THURSDAY!!! Seems like everyone is doing a Goose Island tap takeover, so we are too! Come by this Thursday starting at 5, say 'hi' to Rhett from Goose Island, snag some schwag, and maybe have a beer or two! So far the line-up includes BCBS Coffee, BCBBW, (no regular BCBS because I already tapped those 2 weeks ago and forgot to save one. Oops.) Matilda, Sofie, Naughty Goose, The Illinois, Honkers, IPA and 312. Whew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on December 18, 2013, 04:19:24 am
I live really close to that whole foods but probably can't make it. I managed to snag one bottle of normal BC stout and one of the barleywine. Both were excellent. I coulda got a coffee one but declined as I'm not partial to coffee beers. That Rye one has proven elusive so far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2013, 10:45:25 am
Any bars in the city open during the day, ideally looking for something like Meridian Pint, Church Key, Smoke and Barrel, etc.

Looking to do some bar hopping with my pops and brother in law the day after Xmas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2013, 10:52:08 am
I'd like to go the Fairfax Whole foods event.  Don't live anywhere close to it but that might be my only chance to try the coffee.  And does schwag mean stickers?  That's all I ever seem walk away with.

We tried to do a bar hop mid-day in DC last summer. We started on 14th and neither Churchkey nor Meridian Pint were open.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2013, 11:04:23 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2013, 10:52:08 am
  And does schwag mean stickers?  

They provide you with some low grade marijuana to enjoy with your BCBS!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2013, 11:31:40 am
 ;D  Tempting!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 18, 2013, 11:43:37 am
The Pizza Paradisos open at 11:30. Churchkey at 4, Smoke and Barrel at 5. Don't know about Meridian Pint. Maybe that new City Taphouse? RFD is open for lunch, but they are best avoided.

Quote from: Yada on December 18, 2013, 10:45:25 am
Any bars in the city open during the day, ideally looking for something like Meridian Pint, Church Key, Smoke and Barrel, etc.

Looking to do some bar hopping with my pops and brother in law the day after Xmas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 18, 2013, 11:44:32 am
The Goose Island takeover at Rustico featured free pint glasses. Not saying this will be the case here, but one can hope.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2013, 10:52:08 am
I'd like to go the Fairfax Whole foods event.  Don't live anywhere close to it but that might be my only chance to try the coffee.  And does schwag mean stickers?  That's all I ever seem walk away with.

We tried to do a bar hop mid-day in DC last summer. We started on 14th and neither Churchkey nor Meridian Pint were open.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2013, 11:45:48 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 18, 2013, 11:43:37 am
The Pizza Paradisos open at 11:30. Churchkey at 4, Smoke and Barrel at 5. Don't know about Meridian Pint. Maybe that new City Taphouse? RFD is open for lunch, but they are best avoided.

Quote from: Yada on December 18, 2013, 10:45:25 am
Any bars in the city open during the day, ideally looking for something like Meridian Pint, Church Key, Smoke and Barrel, etc.

Looking to do some bar hopping with my pops and brother in law the day after Xmas.

Yeah, you won't catch me in RFD any day of the week. Pizza P might have to fit the bill for the early afternoon.

At the Goose Island event at church key I snagged a nice t shirt and a pint glass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 18, 2013, 11:50:48 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 15, 2013, 10:24:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 15, 2013, 03:48:49 pm
So what do you do when you go to an xmas party hosted by (wife's co-worker) someone who claims to be into beer and all they have on offer is a Magic Hat variety pack, some Sam Adams varieties, and some crappy German lager (Warsteiner). Does one drink the (superior) beer that one brought to the party, or is it rude not to drink the host's beer?

to be devil's advocate for a second: MH & SA are craft bers.  it shows some appreciation of taste - at least he didn't offer you Bud Platinum as his "fancy beer."

i'd be disappointed by that selection too, and i'd question how "into beer" this person is.  however, some perspective is called for.  realize what 90% of the population is drinking.  Ford, you're part of the 1%.  getting stuck in that middle 9%... could be worse.

I go to my in-laws and there like 'we got some good beer for you in the fridge'
And I'm like "thanks"....go in there : Miller Light, Corona Light and some Smirnoff crap
I don't want to be rude as they went out and got me something, but I'd rather drink water if that's my option.  

and MH and SA are gateway beers for people to get into real beers
I have actually quite enjoyed some of the Sam Adams seasonal beers as of late.  MH...a little while back I actually thought they were good too, can't really drink it anymore

It is amazing the beer selection you get at Giant in VA now a days
Bells/Lagunitas /New Belgium /Dogfish Head/Harpoon/
although they are warm, there is also a great selection of bombers too:
Stone/Allagash/la chouffe/FireStone Walker/Duvel/Schlafly

These can be hard to find in an actual beer store


As far as not drinking the beer you brought....I've struggled with that
As I'll show up with $20+ of bombers of great beer and they've got a fridge of Coors light
I'm sorry, I'm going to drink one or two of the beers I brought as I know they are going to hate the beers I brought.
If I know the host is into beer or might be the kind of person who would be excited...I'll be sure to show the host what I brought and tell them why I think this is a special beer and offer to pour them a glass on the spot. (that's why I like getting bombers too...I can pour them one...and there is enough left for me to have some with them)



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 18, 2013, 11:59:03 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on December 18, 2013, 11:50:48 am


As far as not drinking the beer you brought....I've struggled with that
As I'll show up with $20+ of bombers of great beer and they've got a fridge of Coors light
I'm sorry, I'm going to drink one or two of the beers I brought as I know they are going to hate the beers I brought.






 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on December 18, 2013, 01:34:46 pm
They say they didn't include DIPA/IIPA so #25 is curious.

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 18, 2013, 02:02:52 pm
eh, some people probably included it in their list, and they never "disqualified" the votes.

lot of love for the pig.  i love that beer! also, happy to see la cumbre on the list, it's lesser known and distributed only to new mexico, but it really is stellar. if you trade beer, you should be trading for this asap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 18, 2013, 02:56:27 pm
I actually like Blind Pig more than PTE. But Sculpin is my favorite.

Had my first Surly Furious the other day and was seriously underwhelmed. I'd call it more of an amber ale than an IPA, and say that Troeg's Hopback Amber kicks its ass in that category.

Quote from: stevewizzle on December 18, 2013, 02:02:52 pm
eh, some people probably included it in their list, and they never "disqualified" the votes.

lot of love for the pig.  i love that beer! also, happy to see la cumbre on the list, it's lesser known and distributed only to new mexico, but it really is stellar. if you trade beer, you should be trading for this asap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 18, 2013, 03:05:23 pm
What?   No Maine Beer Co "Lunch"?  Say it ain't so!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2013, 03:13:31 pm
that list is bologna.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 18, 2013, 03:32:00 pm
How many states is Lunch distributed to? Maybe some of the panelists simply haven't had it. That would explain the lack of anything by Hill Farmstead as well.

Granted, Alpine doesn't get much distribution either, but perhaps more of the panelists live in Southern California than New Engalnd.

Quote from: Bagley on December 18, 2013, 03:05:23 pm
What?   No Maine Beer Co "Lunch"?  Say it ain't so!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 20, 2013, 12:24:58 am
in the on-going east vs. west coast IPA debate:

Harpoon Lays Claim to ?New England-Style? IPA

For 20 years, Harpoon?s flagship IPA didn?t needed another moniker.

Throughout New England, the beer is known by most beer drinkers simply as IPA. But the IPA, having emerged as the most popular style in craft beer, according to IRI, has also become somewhat synonymous with extreme, hoppy, and bitter taste ? what?s often called a ?West Coast Style IPA.?

And with an avalanche of new craft offerings flooding the market, brewery co-founder Rich Doyle decided it was time for a definition.

So, in an attempt to help call attention to their own IPA offering, Harpoon said it will begin marketing the brand as a ?New England-style IPA.?

?Twenty years later, the forest has grown up around us,? Doyle said ?It?s a really important now to start allowing people to know why one IPA might be different than another.?

While many consumers may share a voracious appetite for palate-numbing brews, others will continue to seek a more balanced offering, like Harpoon?s, Doyle said.

?We just thought we could add to the discussion and help consumers navigate between IPAs,? said Doyle.

Harpoon plans to deploy the new definition across its website, social media messages, press releases and will even begin printing the phrase on some of its point-of-sale materials.

During a live webcast with co-founder Daniel Kenary, Doyle explained what differentiates that ?New England-style IPA? from its West Coast counterpart. Doyle described a New England-style IPA as a harmonious balance of ingredients, characterized by no single flavor prevailing above the rest. That, he says, is a departure from many of the more hop-forward offerings dominating today?s tap handles.

cont.: http://www.brewbound.com/news/harpoon-lays-claim-to-new-england-style-ipa


"New England-style IPA as a harmonious balance of ingredients, characterized by no single flavor prevailing above the rest" is a a fanciful description.  funny how every beer, it seems, describes itself as "balanced".  by definition an IPA is not balanced.  event east coast and english IPAs aren't balanced, they're supposed to leave strongly towards the hops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 20, 2013, 11:33:18 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 20, 2013, 12:24:58 am
in the on-going east vs. west coast IPA debate:

Harpoon Lays Claim to ?New England-Style? IPA

For 20 years, Harpoon?s flagship IPA didn?t needed another moniker.

Throughout New England, the beer is known by most beer drinkers simply as IPA. But the IPA, having emerged as the most popular style in craft beer, according to IRI, has also become somewhat synonymous with extreme, hoppy, and bitter taste ? what?s often called a ?West Coast Style IPA.?

And with an avalanche of new craft offerings flooding the market, brewery co-founder Rich Doyle decided it was time for a definition.

So, in an attempt to help call attention to their own IPA offering, Harpoon said it will begin marketing the brand as a ?New England-style IPA.?

?Twenty years later, the forest has grown up around us,? Doyle said ?It?s a really important now to start allowing people to know why one IPA might be different than another.?

While many consumers may share a voracious appetite for palate-numbing brews, others will continue to seek a more balanced offering, like Harpoon?s, Doyle said.

?We just thought we could add to the discussion and help consumers navigate between IPAs,? said Doyle.

Harpoon plans to deploy the new definition across its website, social media messages, press releases and will even begin printing the phrase on some of its point-of-sale materials.

During a live webcast with co-founder Daniel Kenary, Doyle explained what differentiates that ?New England-style IPA? from its West Coast counterpart. Doyle described a New England-style IPA as a harmonious balance of ingredients, characterized by no single flavor prevailing above the rest. That, he says, is a departure from many of the more hop-forward offerings dominating today?s tap handles.

cont.: http://www.brewbound.com/news/harpoon-lays-claim-to-new-england-style-ipa


"New England-style IPA as a harmonious balance of ingredients, characterized by no single flavor prevailing above the rest" is a a fanciful description.  funny how every beer, it seems, describes itself as "balanced".  by definition an IPA is not balanced.  event east coast and english IPAs aren't balanced, they're supposed to leave strongly towards the hops.

Sounds smart.  Harpoon is definitely better than the overhopped IPA's that are popular these days.  A Vermont Beer that actually lives up to its hype.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 20, 2013, 11:40:50 am
lolatomic
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 20, 2013, 06:21:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 20, 2013, 11:40:50 am
lolatomic

I thought you would like that one.  Harpoon isn't bad though.  I have drunk it in a pinch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 25, 2013, 10:07:21 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 27, 2013, 10:34:58 am
Made a few brewery journeys over the past week.

Bluejacket exceeded all expectations, I tried five beers and all were above average to delicious. The space is gorgeous as well.

Right Proper, while an awesome spot, every beer I tried there tasted like a buddy's college apartment brew. All beers were reasonably priced and I'll probably give it another try, but the porter was the only decent beer I had. They also don't offer tastings which I found strange.

Furthermore, a shipment of Abrasive is on the way!  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 28, 2013, 03:39:49 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/28/south-carolina-woman-stabs-husband-with-ceramic-squirrel-in-beer-dispute/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 30, 2013, 11:31:25 pm
long but interesting article

http://www.businessinsider.com/alchemist-craft-beer-market-boom-bubble-outlook-2013-12

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 31, 2013, 10:53:49 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 30, 2013, 11:31:25 pm
long but interesting article

http://www.businessinsider.com/alchemist-craft-beer-market-boom-bubble-outlook-2013-12



I didn't read the whole article.  But what I read just confirms my belief that most people are extremely stupid.         Why would people drive to Vermont for beer when their is plenty of fine beer right here?  People are quite like lemmings.  You can argue them forever it won't make a difference.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 31, 2013, 11:32:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 30, 2013, 11:31:25 pm
long but interesting article

http://www.businessinsider.com/alchemist-craft-beer-market-boom-bubble-outlook-2013-12



Great article...and I highly expect a bubble to burst in the near future. The stellar operations will succeed, but the mediocre shops will crumble. A great example is DC where the majority of the beer being brewed is only ok.

I think our Vermont favorites will survive because the beer is that good, hopefully they make smart business decisions as well but I do worry a bit about that.

Analfront's opinion will continue to be null and void since he hasn't ever had one of these beers and most likely never will. At least he'll always be able to enjoy blue moon and shock top.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 31, 2013, 12:15:05 pm
After being told that one of his products infringed on a Starbucks trademark, brewpub owner Jeff Britton wrote the coffee company a check.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/30/258427295/the-other-f-word-brewer-responds-to-starbucks-over-beer-name
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 31, 2013, 01:04:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 31, 2013, 11:32:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on December 30, 2013, 11:31:25 pm
long but interesting article

http://www.businessinsider.com/alchemist-craft-beer-market-boom-bubble-outlook-2013-12



Great article...and I highly expect a bubble to burst in the near future. The stellar operations will succeed, but the mediocre shops will crumble. A great example is DC where the majority of the beer being brewed is only ok.

I think our Vermont favorites will survive because the beer is that good, hopefully they make smart business decisions as well but I do worry a bit about that.

Analfront's opinion will continue to be null and void since he hasn't ever had one of these beers and most likely never will. At least he'll always be able to enjoy blue moon and shock top.

There is plenty of good beer in Maryland.  Union Craft is awesome.  Vermont beer is a fad.  Its popularity will lessen dramatically.  I don't drink Shock Top or Blue Moon.  No I haven't drunk it (Toppy header)  If they want to sell it to me they need to distribute in Maryland.  I can get beer from Salzburg Austria that I like 1/2 mile from my house but I can't get stuff from Vermont here?  Nonsense.

It would be one thing if Vermont were worth visiting.  But I have been there and the state is obviously inferior in attractions to any of the surounding states.  I guess if I were a skier I might visit Vermont but not for hiking.   Beer is for drinking.  And as one of the main contributors to this threads love of Vermont beer doesn't even drink beer (6 oz a night isn't drinking beer) I am guessing it isn't all that special.



 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 31, 2013, 01:07:46 pm
Quote from: grateful on December 31, 2013, 12:15:05 pm
After being told that one of his products infringed on a Starbucks trademark, brewpub owner Jeff Britton wrote the coffee company a check.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/30/258427295/the-other-f-word-brewer-responds-to-starbucks-over-beer-name

Just an example of a corporation protecting its trademarks and someone trying to make a story out of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 31, 2013, 03:08:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 31, 2013, 11:32:52 am
Great article...and I highly expect a bubble to burst in the near future. The stellar operations will succeed, but the mediocre shops will crumble. A great example is DC where the majority of the beer being brewed is only ok.

I think our Vermont favorites will survive because the beer is that good, hopefully they make smart business decisions as well but I do worry a bit about that.

they'll have to expand, market, and distribute to keep making money. i really hold no loyalty to any VT brewery, i doubt many people do, and on all accounts i think hill farmstead is detrimental to beer culture.  the beer snob attitude has become insufferable to me, just shut up and drink your beer (or brew ur beer and sell it).

beer is simple to make. even atomicfront can do it. and beers like heady topper are being replicated, and people will soon enough simply go to where it's closest, cheapest, and readily available.  there's plenty of IPAs out there that no one has ever heard of that is comparable, if not better than whatever is coming out of VT. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 31, 2013, 05:58:46 pm
I can honestly say that Heady Topper is still the best beer I've ever tasted. Even better than anyone's home brews. Even better than any beer I've had from Germany, Austria, California, or the Whole Foods within walking distance of my house.

Would I drive from Virginia to Vermont and back to get it? Nope.

 Would I drive from my mom's house (if I were already there visiting), which is less than 3 hours away(each way) to get Heady? Yes, I would. As long as mom doesn't move or die, I'll be drinking Heady.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on December 31, 2013, 06:17:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 31, 2013, 05:58:46 pm
I can honestly say that Heady Topper is still the best beer I've ever tasted. Even better than anyone's home brews. Even better than any beer I've had from Germany, Austria, California, or the Whole Foods within walking distance of my house.

Would I drive from Virginia to Vermont and back to get it? Nope.

 Would I drive from my mom's house (if I were already there visiting), which is less than 3 hours away(each way) to get Heady? Yes, I would. As long as mom doesn't move or die, I'll be drinking Heady.

To say one beer is better tasting than all other beers is comical.  I like blueberries and I like cherries to say one taste better?  Not really both are good in their own way.  I will say wild blueberries picked on a mountain trail in Maine taste better but that might just because you work up an appetite getting to them.  There are a ton of different beers.  If I were in VT I would have one of their beers. If I am in Munich I will have a Munich beer.   If I am in Maine I will have a Maine beer.  

How would you even compare a Dunkel to a Double IPA?  Or a Belgian Wit to a Oatmeal Stout?  I don't understand the need to rank things.  You either like a beer or you don't.   I am have gone back to weaker beers just because I can drink more without getting overly intoxicated.  A relative gave me a 120 minute IPA at Christmas and while it tastes good I don't considerate that a beer.  That is more of a liquor.  I want something that I can 7 or 8 of without getting drunk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 31, 2013, 07:13:37 pm
I like chocolate chip cookies better than gingerbread cookies. However, I'd choose a ell made homemade gingerbread cookie over a Chips Ahoy.

I like double IPA's better than dunkels. However, I'd choose a well made dunkel from Germany over a double IPA from Sam Adams.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on December 31, 2013, 07:46:28 pm
And why in god's name would you want to drink 7 or 8 beers and not get drunk? Are you one of those people that drinks 7 or 8 sodas or coffees a day too?

The only thing i want to drink 7 or 8 of a day is water.

Do you have a favorite football team? how about a favorite restaurant? How about a favorite wife? Why not have a favorite beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on January 01, 2014, 04:11:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on December 31, 2013, 07:46:28 pm
And why in god's name would you want to drink 7 or 8 beers and not get drunk? Are you one of those people that drinks 7 or 8 sodas or coffees a day too?

The only thing i want to drink 7 or 8 of a day is water.

Do you have a favorite football team? how about a favorite restaurant? How about a favorite wife? Why not have a favorite beer?

You didn't say it was your favorite beer you said it was the best beer.  Quite a different thing.  It would be like if I said the Ravens were the best sports team in the world.  They might be my favorite but I don't see how anyone could say any team was the best sports team in the world. Also, my favorite restaurant is Petit Louis Bistro.  I like it because the staff is outstanding, the food is decent and has a good variety and it is very close to my house.  I would not ever say it is the best restraurant in the world.  Or even the best in which I have ever eaten.  I wouldn't even know how to come up with which restaurant I have eaten is the best. 

As for favorite wives. I would say wife #2 is my favorite and that is any easy choice because if wife #1 was my favorite there wouldn't be a wife #2. 

Also I don't drink soda or coffee.  I do like to have 7 or 8 beers over a night of drinking. I liked to get buzzed but I don't want to get black out drunk If I drink 8 120 minute IPAs I am sure I will end up in the later category potentially doing and saying inappropiate things.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 01, 2014, 07:49:57 pm
Holy shite, fresh surly abrasive is so delicious. Undoubtedly, the only DIPA that might touch topper.

Happy New Year folks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 01, 2014, 09:30:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 01, 2014, 07:49:57 pm
Holy shite, fresh surly abrasive is so delicious. Undoubtedly, the only DIPA that might touch topper.

go home yada, you're drunk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 01, 2014, 10:46:29 pm
Did you drink 7 or 8 of them?

Quote from: Yada on January 01, 2014, 07:49:57 pm
Holy shite, fresh surly abrasive is so delicious. Undoubtedly, the only DIPA that might touch topper.

Happy New Year folks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 01, 2014, 10:58:04 pm
It's rare when I get to try six full pours of beers I've never had, but i did that tonight at smoke and barrel. My wife made me drink this much, I swear. Unfortunately, only one was a true keeper, and unfortunately, it's not yet bottled. Probably should have just had a couple of the first one.

1. Foothills Jade IPA 8.5/10. Bottle this motherfucker already. Comparable to Zombie Dust and nearly as good.
2. Firestone Walker Velvet Merkin 7.5/10. I'd buy this is it were in a reasonably priced four pack instead of a hard to find expensive bomber.
3. Evil Twin/Westbrook Mini Growler 7/10. A reviewer described this beer as "manly". My wife liked it more than I did.
4. Against the Grain Atilla the Hen 6.5/10...noy bad maybe a tad too sweet and a tad too boozy at 13.2 abv.
5. Evil Twin Molatov Cocktail. 6/10. A 13.0% abv IPA. Ordered this one only because my wife insisted.
6. Allagash Midnight Brett.. 4.5/10. like cherry cola And I hate cherry cola.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 02, 2014, 11:40:58 am
I'm sure most of you ignored the raffle I posted about on here a while back, anyway, I ended up winning a box of beer from Block 15 in Oregon. Has anyone had it?

I should have it within the week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 02, 2014, 11:41:49 am
Midnight Brett is disgusting - it smells like vomit and tastes only marginally better

Quote from: James Ford on January 01, 2014, 10:58:04 pm
It's rare when I get to try six full pours of beers I've never had, but i did that tonight at smoke and barrel. My wife made me drink this much, I swear. Unfortunately, only one was a true keeper, and unfortunately, it's not yet bottled. Probably should have just had a couple of the first one.

1. Foothills Jade IPA 8.5/10. Bottle this motherfucker already. Comparable to Zombie Dust and nearly as good.
2. Firestone Walker Velvet Merkin 7.5/10. I'd buy this is it were in a reasonably priced four pack instead of a hard to find expensive bomber.
3. Evil Twin/Westbrook Mini Growler 7/10. A reviewer described this beer as "manly". My wife liked it more than I did.
4. Against the Grain Atilla the Hen 6.5/10...noy bad maybe a tad too sweet and a tad too boozy at 13.2 abv.
5. Evil Twin Molatov Cocktail. 6/10. A 13.0% abv IPA. Ordered this one only because my wife insisted.
6. Allagash Midnight Brett.. 4.5/10. like cherry cola And I hate cherry cola.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 02, 2014, 12:06:34 pm
Three Stars Illuminati membership on sale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 02, 2014, 12:49:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 02, 2014, 11:40:58 am
I'm sure most of you ignored the raffle I posted about on here a while back, anyway, I ended up winning a box of beer from Block 15 in Oregon. Has anyone had it?

I should have it within the week.

never had it, but i hear good things about figgy pudding.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 02, 2014, 12:54:38 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 02, 2014, 12:49:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 02, 2014, 11:40:58 am
I'm sure most of you ignored the raffle I posted about on here a while back, anyway, I ended up winning a box of beer from Block 15 in Oregon. Has anyone had it?

I should have it within the week.

never had it, but i hear good things about figgy pudding.

Werd... that's one of the bottles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 02, 2014, 01:49:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 02, 2014, 12:06:34 pm
Three Stars Illuminati membership on sale.

200 memberships sold in 90 minutes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 03, 2014, 01:40:51 pm
I don't even think I'll pursue Hopslam this year.

http://bellsbeer.com/blog/241-Hopslam_2014__Shipping_dates__release_parties_and_availability

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 03, 2014, 01:47:24 pm
Unless I catch it on draft for cheap ata happy hour, ditto.

Quote from: Yada on January 03, 2014, 01:40:51 pm
I don't even think I'll pursue Hopslam this year.

http://bellsbeer.com/blog/241-Hopslam_2014__Shipping_dates__release_parties_and_availability


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 03, 2014, 03:40:40 pm
i'm thinking that last year's debacle will have tempered demand (re: yada and JF's posts, above).  i hoping that hopslam is 1) better than last year, and 2) slightly easier to find.

if early reviews are ok, and i come across some, i'll probably snag it.  but there is too much other stuff that i'd rather have at the moment, at that price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2014, 03:25:59 pm
Got lots of Abrasive if any of you locals are up for a trade.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 05, 2014, 06:49:21 pm
Whoa... drinking my first BAD Wings...

I picked up a sixer that was canned on 12/27 and the can I'm currently drinking is basically a drain pour. Smells awful and doesn't taste good either. Anyone else pick up this batch?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2014, 01:19:19 am
strangely enough, my first ever OTWOA was from that 12/27 canning.  i thought it lacked body (too thin) but it wasn't horrible.  hop aroma was really nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2014, 03:33:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2014, 01:19:19 am
strangely enough, my first ever OTWOA was from that 12/27 canning.  i thought it lacked body (too thin) but it wasn't horrible.  hop aroma was really nice.

My first can wasn't drinkable... I poured it out after maybe drinking a bit of a 1/3rd of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 06, 2014, 03:34:00 pm
thats what you get.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2014, 03:37:34 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 06, 2014, 03:34:00 pm
thats what you get.

How is that can of seltzer treating you walky?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 06, 2014, 03:41:41 pm
ever had these?

(http://burtonwode.com/content/uploads/pellegrino.jpg)

fucking awesome
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2014, 06:21:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 06, 2014, 03:33:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2014, 01:19:19 am
strangely enough, my first ever OTWOA was from that 12/27 canning.  i thought it lacked body (too thin) but it wasn't horrible.  hop aroma was really nice.

My first can wasn't drinkable... I poured it out after maybe drinking a bit of a 1/3rd of it.

weird.  have you tried any others?  maybe that was a fluke.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2014, 06:29:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2014, 06:21:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 06, 2014, 03:33:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2014, 01:19:19 am
strangely enough, my first ever OTWOA was from that 12/27 canning.  i thought it lacked body (too thin) but it wasn't horrible.  hop aroma was really nice.

My first can wasn't drinkable... I poured it out after maybe drinking a bit of a 1/3rd of it.

weird.  have you tried any others?  maybe that was a fluke.

If you meant the batch, no... I haven't. I'll report back when I do though!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2014, 11:04:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 06, 2014, 06:29:51 pm
If you meant the batch, no... I haven't. I'll report back when I do though!

yeah, that's what i meant.  hopefully the rest of you case(s) is ok.

Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2014, 03:25:59 pm
Got lots of Abrasive if any of you locals are up for a trade.

i wouldn't mind trading for some.  i tried some abrasive, once, at a bottle share party.  wouldn't mind a full pour.

that being said, logistically i have no idea how we could make it happen.  i have zero time to run after beer traders, and ask stevewizzle how efficient i am in the get-to-the-fedex-store department (i'm going tomorrow, i swear...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 07, 2014, 09:30:13 am
Quote from: Yada on January 05, 2014, 06:49:21 pm
Whoa... drinking my first BAD Wings...

I picked up a sixer that was canned on 12/27 and the can I'm currently drinking is basically a drain pour. Smells awful and doesn't taste good either. Anyone else pick up this batch?
really? strange - I think this batch is quite good actually
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 07, 2014, 10:27:00 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2014, 11:04:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 06, 2014, 06:29:51 pm
If you meant the batch, no... I haven't. I'll report back when I do though!

yeah, that's what i meant.  hopefully the rest of you case(s) is ok.

Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2014, 03:25:59 pm
Got lots of Abrasive if any of you locals are up for a trade.

i wouldn't mind trading for some.  i tried some abrasive, once, at a bottle share party.  wouldn't mind a full pour.

that being said, logistically i have no idea how we could make it happen.  i have zero time to run after beer traders, and ask stevewizzle how efficient i am in the get-to-the-fedex-store department (i'm going tomorrow, i swear...)

I have fairly limited time myself, but you have my personal email...drop me a line and if we can make it happen at some point, great! Otherwise, I'll keep it all for myself. :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 07, 2014, 12:22:11 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2014, 11:04:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2014, 03:25:59 pm
Got lots of Abrasive if any of you locals are up for a trade.

i wouldn't mind trading for some.  i tried some abrasive, once, at a bottle share party.  wouldn't mind a full pour.

that being said, logistically i have no idea how we could make it happen.  i have zero time to run after beer traders, and ask stevewizzle how efficient i am in the get-to-the-fedex-store department (i'm going tomorrow, i swear...)

to be fair, my shipment got kicked back (poor packaging my ass!) and i still need to send yours out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 07, 2014, 12:27:51 pm
a while back, i was lucky enough to grab two 12oz hair of the dogg 'matt' bottles. the beer has been released twice, and it's a commerative ale of the fine guys at bottleworks in seattle.

as complex and delicious as it was, i can't help but beat a dead horse in the fact that they barely carbonate their beers.  it was viscous and heavy and every bit was impressive, but nothing leaves me wanting more. drinking nearly flat strong ales just isn't very desirable.  i've had their beers on draft and they are incredible... i just don't get why they have these carbonation issues. 



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 09, 2014, 12:06:29 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 07, 2014, 12:27:51 pm
as complex and delicious as it was, i can't help but beat a dead horse in the fact that they barely carbonate their beers.  it was viscous and heavy and every bit was impressive, but nothing leaves me wanting more. drinking nearly flat strong ales just isn't very desirable.  i've had their beers on draft and they are incredible... i just don't get why they have these carbonation issues. 

seeing how awesome their beers are - i.e. they know how to make beer - i have to assume these aren't issues.  they're making the beer this way on purpose.  maybe they think the carbonation will interfere with the thick mouthfeel of the beer, or the carbonic acid will add a bite they don't want, etc.

you're only a few hours away from portland.  why don't you go down there and yell at them?

once you have your kegerator set up, and are the owner of a CO2 tank, you could get a carbonator cap (http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-carbonator.html) and carb it yourself to your own liking ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 09, 2014, 12:08:04 pm
in case anyone is looking for a beer festival: http://craftbeerfestdc.com/

(http://media.virbcdn.com/images/81/87e341ac99263ef2-DC-header-EB.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 10, 2014, 12:18:54 pm
SpaceBar now sells pint-sized "growlers" (http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/blog/top-shelf/2014/01/falls-churchs-spacebar-rolls-out.html?page=all)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 13, 2014, 05:13:13 pm
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/13/22290655-german-beer-companies-swallow-150-million-fine-for-price-fixing?lite
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 13, 2014, 06:38:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 09, 2014, 12:06:29 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 07, 2014, 12:27:51 pm
as complex and delicious as it was, i can't help but beat a dead horse in the fact that they barely carbonate their beers.  it was viscous and heavy and every bit was impressive, but nothing leaves me wanting more. drinking nearly flat strong ales just isn't very desirable.  i've had their beers on draft and they are incredible... i just don't get why they have these carbonation issues. 

seeing how awesome their beers are - i.e. they know how to make beer - i have to assume these aren't issues.  they're making the beer this way on purpose.  maybe they think the carbonation will interfere with the thick mouthfeel of the beer, or the carbonic acid will add a bite they don't want, etc.

i misspoke calling it issues, they clearly know what they are doing. but they vary batch to batch, some come with great carbonation, some don't.  if you're going to bottle condition beers, typically you would want thick glass, and perhaps cork it.  i can't help but think they undercarbonate on purpose so they don't create bombs.

Quote from: sweetcell on January 09, 2014, 12:06:29 pm
you're only a few hours away from portland.  why don't you go down there and yell at them?

oh, please. if i go down there, it'll go something like this. 

(http://download.nliveris.com/RandomPhotos/Simpsons/Barney-Tap.jpg)

but as far as purchasing bottles, i really find the flat beers undesirable and will only seek out ones confirmed with good carb. and that is why i'm ranting, i hate extra work :)

Quote from: sweetcell on January 09, 2014, 12:06:29 pm
once you have your kegerator set up, and are the owner of a CO2 tank, you could get a carbonator cap (http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-carbonator.html) and carb it yourself to your own liking ;D

ha ha... i might just do that.  keg came today.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 15, 2014, 12:16:39 pm
meanwhile, down at the craft beer bar... (http://youtu.be/KWBV7yKWhWE)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on January 15, 2014, 12:33:58 pm
I had a couple of Bitter American's last night.  Not my favorite beer but it did its job.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 15, 2014, 12:36:05 pm
Quote from: grateful on January 15, 2014, 12:16:39 pm
meanwhile, down at the craft beer bar... (http://youtu.be/KWBV7yKWhWE)

that was awesome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 15, 2014, 12:42:15 pm
indeed, it was
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2014, 07:29:50 pm
good stuff....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 15, 2014, 09:42:03 pm
Has anybody had Victory Hop Ranch yet?

Apparently they have it at Total Wine in Sterling. But the $15.99/four pack price isn't going to make me jump through hoops to get it, especially when Victory DirtWolf goes for $8.49/four pack at Total Wine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 16, 2014, 10:40:50 am
So two years ago #and three years ago, I received one of those Mr. Beer "Make your own beer at home!" kits.  I still have them both, and one of the gifters has finally decided that I need to get off my ass and make the beer (or whatever comes out of those kits). 

Is this likely to go horribly wrong?  Should I be concerned about the age of the yeast?  Are the kits actually a good starting point, or is this just going to be a huge hassle?  Also - I have two cats.  Are they likely to be attracted to (or repulsed by) the fermenting goop in the basement?

Sorry for all the questions...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on January 16, 2014, 10:50:11 am
Quote from: grateful on January 16, 2014, 10:40:50 am
So two years ago #and three years ago, I received one of those Mr. Beer "Make your own beer at home!" kits.  I still have them both, and one of the gifters has finally decided that I need to get off my ass and make the beer (or whatever comes out of those kits). 

Is this likely to go horribly wrong?  Should I be concerned about the age of the yeast?  Are the kits actually a good starting point, or is this just going to be a huge hassle?  Also - I have two cats.  Are they likely to be attracted to (or repulsed by) the fermenting goop in the basement?

Sorry for all the questions...

It is pretty easy just make sure you keep everything clean.  It is probably better to have newer yeast.  But don't listen to what they say about days.  You need to ferment at least 2 weeks and then keep in the bottle 3 weeks.  I think they changed to a better ingredients a couple of years ago.  So you might just want to pick up a whole new malted hops/yeast combo.  I do think their octoberfest kit is pretty good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 16, 2014, 01:19:17 pm
Quote from: atomic on January 16, 2014, 10:50:11 am
Quote from: grateful on January 16, 2014, 10:40:50 am
So two years ago #and three years ago, I received one of those Mr. Beer "Make your own beer at home!" kits.  I still have them both, and one of the gifters has finally decided that I need to get off my ass and make the beer (or whatever comes out of those kits). 

Is this likely to go horribly wrong?  Should I be concerned about the age of the yeast?  Are the kits actually a good starting point, or is this just going to be a huge hassle?  Also - I have two cats.  Are they likely to be attracted to (or repulsed by) the fermenting goop in the basement?

Sorry for all the questions...

It is pretty easy just make sure you keep everything clean.  It is probably better to have newer yeast.  But don't listen to what they say about days.  You need to ferment at least 2 weeks and then keep in the bottle 3 weeks.  I think they changed to a better ingredients a couple of years ago.  So you might just want to pick up a whole new malted hops/yeast combo.  I do think their octoberfest kit is pretty good.

My advice, don't do what anusfront tells you to do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 16, 2014, 02:55:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 16, 2014, 01:19:17 pm
My advice, don't do what anusfront tells you to do.

Ha ha very funny. #Trolling!

So you've told me what not to do.  Can you now answer the questions I asked?  Or do you not know, but you just had to get a dig in?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 16, 2014, 02:58:36 pm
the only thing yada knows about beer . . . is how to open the top of the bottle.  just kidding, brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 16, 2014, 03:02:28 pm
Quote from: grateful on January 16, 2014, 02:55:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 16, 2014, 01:19:17 pm
My advice, don't do what anusfront tells you to do.

Ha ha very funny. #Trolling!

So you've told me what not to do.  Can you now answer the questions I asked?  Or do you not know, but you just had to get a dig in?

anusfront's advice is fairly sound. i'd still use the old yeast... it's a dry package, it should be fine.  two or three years ago is quite a while... three-year old hops may be a problem, might not impart much bittering flavor.  you could always buy new ingredients, but at this point, i would just go for it and not pour any money into it.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 16, 2014, 03:40:38 pm
I just checked out the contents of the box...it includes yeast and "hopped malt extract".  No need to worry about the hops going bad...they started that way!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on January 16, 2014, 03:55:58 pm
Quote from: grateful on January 16, 2014, 03:40:38 pm
I just checked out the contents of the box...it includes yeast and "hopped malt extract".  No need to worry about the hops going bad...they started that way!

Yeah the stuff in the can will stay good forever.  I guess you could throw the yeast in there and if you don't see any action in a day then go buy new yeast.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 16, 2014, 05:57:03 pm
Quote from: grateful on January 16, 2014, 10:40:50 am
So two years ago #and three years ago, I received one of those Mr. Beer "Make your own beer at home!" kits.  I still have them both, and one of the gifters has finally decided that I need to get off my ass and make the beer (or whatever comes out of those kits). 

Is this likely to go horribly wrong?  Should I be concerned about the age of the yeast? 

IMO, you have two choices:

1) use what you've got. upside: easy, "free", you're ready to go.  downside: the beer is going to be less than optimal.  the extract is now 2+ years old, you really want your extract - especially liquid extract - to be as fresh as possible.  yeast is probably ok, not ideal but ok.  hops will be not-so-OK, expect a slightly sweeter beer and little hop aroma/flavor.

2) buy yourself a mr. beer replacement kit (ingredients only).  upside: beer will be better.  downside: $.

option 1 would be a good practice run.  it'll allow you to see what the process is like and you'll end up with something (may or may not be very good).  option #2 will greatly increase your chances of making a good beverage.

Quote from: grateful on January 16, 2014, 10:40:50 am
Are the kits actually a good starting point, or is this just going to be a huge hassle?  Also - I have two cats.  Are they likely to be attracted to (or repulsed by) the fermenting goop in the basement?

i've never tried any mr. beer beer, but i've read that they can produce good beer.  unfortunately the instructions provided are a bit lacking.  they emphasize how simple and quick it is to do, they don't want to fill the user's head with subtleties and doubt that would prevent them from buying another kit.  so instead of having a "and here's how to get from good to great", they provide the abre minimum.  main thing they don't discuss is temperature control.  you want to keep the beer in the low 60's if possible.  is your basement heated?  unheated basements this time of year are just about perfect for fermenting beer.

don't think you'll need to worry about your cats.  my bet is they'll take one whiff and get turned off by the smell of CO2 escaping, once fermentation starts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 16, 2014, 06:17:42 pm
Thanks, sweetcell!  We're doing this on Saturday, so I'll know for sure how it went in 5-6 weeks :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 16, 2014, 10:04:47 pm
have fun! :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 17, 2014, 08:45:37 pm
Had one of these with dinnner, and OMFG, it was soooooo good. 98 on Beer Advocate

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/28178/87145/

(http://www.wlvliquors.com/wp-content/uploads/images/products/Pipeworks-Citra-Ninja-Imperial-IPA.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 17, 2014, 08:49:24 pm
And for dessert: 100 on Beer Advocate

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1146/57747/

(http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/goose-island-bourbon-county-brand-coffee-stout.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 17, 2014, 11:58:36 pm
Very cool map

http://popchartlab.com/products/the-bountiful-breweries-of-the-united-states-of-america

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on January 18, 2014, 05:06:13 am
Allagash Midnight Brett Ale. Kinda expensive but damn tasty. Reminded me a bit of the Clutch Dark Sour Ale. If you see it give it a try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2014, 09:06:53 am
Your take on the Midnight Brett as a little different than mine and Brennser's.

Started by James Ford, Message by brennser:
Midnight Brett is disgusting - it smells like vomit and tastes only marginally better

Quote from: James Ford on January 01, 2014, 10:58:04 PM

6. Allagash Midnight Brett.. 4.5/10. like cherry cola And I hate cherry cola.


Quote from: Unsanity on January 18, 2014, 05:06:13 am
Allagash Midnight Brett Ale. Kinda expensive but damn tasty. Reminded me a bit of the Clutch Dark Sour Ale. If you see it give it a try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on January 18, 2014, 02:36:31 pm
I had a bunch of Gaffel Kolsch last night.  Good drinking beer.  Tasted fresh and natural almost like a home brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 19, 2014, 12:17:03 pm
Another reason to go hang out with Julian down in Richmond.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/entertainment-life/food-dining/an-bui-has-the-answer-a-new-brewpub/article_ff003abc-19b0-50e2-81af-23172cd01184.html


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 19, 2014, 09:43:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 19, 2014, 12:17:03 pm
Another reason to go hang out with Julian down in Richmond.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/entertainment-life/food-dining/an-bui-has-the-answer-a-new-brewpub/article_ff003abc-19b0-50e2-81af-23172cd01184.html



I know that guy. Not a beer guy but Mekong has surprisingly good food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 19, 2014, 11:48:17 pm
Been there once. Loved the beer AND the food.

Quote from: Julian, Former Weblebrity on January 19, 2014, 09:43:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 19, 2014, 12:17:03 pm
Another reason to go hang out with Julian down in Richmond.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/entertainment-life/food-dining/an-bui-has-the-answer-a-new-brewpub/article_ff003abc-19b0-50e2-81af-23172cd01184.html



I know that guy. Not a beer guy but Mekong has surprisingly good food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 20, 2014, 12:18:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 15, 2014, 09:42:03 pm
Has anybody had Victory Hop Ranch yet?

Apparently they have it at Total Wine in Sterling. But the $15.99/four pack price isn't going to make me jump through hoops to get it, especially when Victory DirtWolf goes for $8.49/four pack at Total Wine.

I'm too busy drinking Abrasive and Sucks to try that right now. I did see it for $48 a case in Pittsburgh, so that seems outrageously over priced for a four pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 21, 2014, 03:25:11 am
Quote from: Yada on January 20, 2014, 12:18:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 15, 2014, 09:42:03 pm
Has anybody had Victory Hop Ranch yet?

Apparently they have it at Total Wine in Sterling. But the $15.99/four pack price isn't going to make me jump through hoops to get it, especially when Victory DirtWolf goes for $8.49/four pack at Total Wine.

I'm too busy drinking Abrasive and Sucks to try that right now. I did see it for $48 a case in Pittsburgh, so that seems outrageously over priced for a four pack.

im too busy drinking pliny and blind pig to care about you being busy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 21, 2014, 03:27:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 18, 2014, 09:06:53 am
Your take on the Midnight Brett as a little different than mine and Brennser's.

Started by James Ford, Message by brennser:
Midnight Brett is disgusting - it smells like vomit and tastes only marginally better

Quote from: James Ford on January 01, 2014, 10:58:04 PM

6. Allagash Midnight Brett.. 4.5/10. like cherry cola And I hate cherry cola.


Quote from: Unsanity on January 18, 2014, 05:06:13 am
Allagash Midnight Brett Ale. Kinda expensive but damn tasty. Reminded me a bit of the Clutch Dark Sour Ale. If you see it give it a try.

but the same as mine.  i thought midnight brett was fantastic. very drinkable. black sours or wild ales seem to be polarizing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 08:20:12 am
They are indeed. I didn't care much more Tart of Darkness either. Though I found it more drinkable thank Midnight Brett.

Quote from: stevewizzle on January 21, 2014, 03:27:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 18, 2014, 09:06:53 am
Your take on the Midnight Brett as a little different than mine and Brennser's.

Started by James Ford, Message by brennser:
Midnight Brett is disgusting - it smells like vomit and tastes only marginally better

Quote from: James Ford on January 01, 2014, 10:58:04 PM

6. Allagash Midnight Brett.. 4.5/10. like cherry cola And I hate cherry cola.


Quote from: Unsanity on January 18, 2014, 05:06:13 am
Allagash Midnight Brett Ale. Kinda expensive but damn tasty. Reminded me a bit of the Clutch Dark Sour Ale. If you see it give it a try.

but the same as mine.  i thought midnight brett was fantastic. very drinkable. black sours or wild ales seem to be polarizing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 11:52:22 am
So we had another bottle share, and though I don't have a complete log of what was shared, I can report on the blind vertical tasting of Midwest IPA's we did. We had eight people tasting six different unnamed IPA's. Everyone made a list, from first (1) to last (6). Here are the results. The number is the average (place) score:

1. The Brew Kettle White Rajah 1.75
2. FatHeads Headhunter 1.875
3. Half Acre Heyoka 3.375
4. Three Floyds Zombie Dust 3.875
5. Three Floyds Alpha King 4.625
6. Columbus IPA 5.375

So there you have it, the #6 beer in the world on Beer Advocate (Zombie Dust) gets crushed by two other local Midwest beers. Guess hype does have something to do with ratings after all. (All six of those beers have a 92 or above on Beer Advocate).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2014, 12:12:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 11:52:22 am
So we had another bottle share, and though I don't have a complete log of what was shared, I can report on the blind vertical tasting of Midwest IPA's we did. We had eight people tasting six different unnamed IPA's. Everyone made a list, from first (1) to last (6). Here are the results. The number is the average (place) score:

1. The Brew Kettle White Rajah 1.75
2. FatHeads Headhunter 1.875
3. Half Acre Heyoka 3.375
4. Three Floyds Zombie Dust 3.875
5. Three Floyds Alpha King 4.625
6. Columbus IPA 5.375

So there you have it, the #6 beer in the world on Beer Advocate (Zombie Dust) gets crushed by two other local Midwest beers. Guess hype does have something to do with ratings after all. (All six of those beers have a 92 or above on Beer Advocate).

I've said it once and I'll say it again, I find Zombie Dust Three Floyds quite overrated.

P.S. You forgot my invite, brah!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 21, 2014, 01:54:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 11:52:22 am
So we had another bottle share, and though I don't have a complete log of what was shared
partial list: Element Brewing Dark Element, Crooked Staves Hop Savant and St. Bretta (Summer), Rivertown Brewing Ojos Negros blackberry sour, Jester King Das Uberkind soured saison, Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break Natale Pretty Please with a cherry on top, 3 Floyd's War Mullet.  i believe i'm forgetting a few.

Quote from: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 11:52:22 am
So there you have it, the #6 beer in the world on Beer Advocate (Zombie Dust) gets crushed by two other local Midwest beers. Guess hype does have something to do with ratings after all. (All six of those beers have a 92 or above on Beer Advocate).

i wouldn't draw too many conclusions from this exercise.  n=1 and all that.  some of those beers were bought in grocery stores, so who knows how fresh they were or what conditions they were stored in before being sold.   the beer in last place, columbus IPA, definitely didn't taste like a 92+ beer.  the tasting was the first thing we did at the share and i was thirsty... and i didn't finish my columbus IPA.  based on this one incident, i wouldn't dismiss this beer either.

Quote from: Yada on January 21, 2014, 12:12:30 pm
P.S. You forgot my invite, brah!

didn't know you were still interested... ;D

we'll let you know about the next one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2014, 02:08:24 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 21, 2014, 01:54:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 11:52:22 am
So we had another bottle share, and though I don't have a complete log of what was shared
partial list: Element Brewing Dark Element, Crooked Staves Hop Savant and St. Bretta (Summer), Rivertown Brewing Ojos Negros blackberry sour, Jester King Das Uberkind soured saison, Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break Natale Pretty Please with a cherry on top, 3 Floyd's War Mullet.  i believe i'm forgetting a few.

Quote from: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 11:52:22 am
So there you have it, the #6 beer in the world on Beer Advocate (Zombie Dust) gets crushed by two other local Midwest beers. Guess hype does have something to do with ratings after all. (All six of those beers have a 92 or above on Beer Advocate).

i wouldn't draw too many conclusions from this exercise.  n=1 and all that.  some of those beers were bought in grocery stores, so who knows how fresh they were or what conditions they were stored in before being sold.   the beer in last place, columbus IPA, definitely didn't taste like a 92+ beer.  the tasting was the first thing we did at the share and i was thirsty... and i didn't finish my columbus IPA.  based on this one incident, i wouldn't dismiss this beer either.

Quote from: Yada on January 21, 2014, 12:12:30 pm
P.S. You forgot my invite, brah!

didn't know you were still interested... ;D

we'll let you know about the next one.

yea... admittedly, I haven't been a good attendee... No exaggeration, we were out of town over half of last year's weekends + baby preparation + work + any other commitment it was tough to do anything else. Anyway... keep me posted, i don' think I'm out of town again until April.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 03:06:31 pm
Four of the six beers were bought in grocery stores.

The #2 finisher, Headhunter, was bought at the brewpub with no bottling date.

The #4 finisher, Zombie Dust, was bought at the brewery on the day it was bottled. It was the freshest of the sixth and still finished a distant fourth!

Quote from: sweetcell on January 21, 2014, 01:54:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 11:52:22 am
So we had another bottle share, and though I don't have a complete log of what was shared
partial list: Element Brewing Dark Element, Crooked Staves Hop Savant and St. Bretta (Summer), Rivertown Brewing Ojos Negros blackberry sour, Jester King Das Uberkind soured saison, Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break Natale Pretty Please with a cherry on top, 3 Floyd's War Mullet.  i believe i'm forgetting a few.

Quote from: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 11:52:22 am
So there you have it, the #6 beer in the world on Beer Advocate (Zombie Dust) gets crushed by two other local Midwest beers. Guess hype does have something to do with ratings after all. (All six of those beers have a 92 or above on Beer Advocate).

i wouldn't draw too many conclusions from this exercise.  n=1 and all that.  some of those beers were bought in grocery stores, so who knows how fresh they were or what conditions they were stored in before being sold.   the beer in last place, columbus IPA, definitely didn't taste like a 92+ beer.  the tasting was the first thing we did at the share and i was thirsty... and i didn't finish my columbus IPA.  based on this one incident, i wouldn't dismiss this beer either.

Quote from: Yada on January 21, 2014, 12:12:30 pm
P.S. You forgot my invite, brah!

didn't know you were still interested... ;D

we'll let you know about the next one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 03:16:59 pm
I've also had White Rajah, Headhunter, and Zombie Dust all on draft and all three are pretty evenly matched on draft...my wife would pick the first two though
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 21, 2014, 03:19:59 pm
yeah but isn't zombie dust a pale ale, not an IPA - is it even a fair comparison?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 21, 2014, 03:30:44 pm
Three Floyds calls it a pale ale, but I don't. Hoe many pale ales do you know that are 6.4 abv? And pack that much hop punch?

So why is it the #6 beer in the world? Are people giving it massively high scores because they think it's a pale ale and thus they have lower expectations? If it's truly the #6 beer in the world, it should be able to beat some single IPA's in a blind taste test!

Quote from: brennser on January 21, 2014, 03:19:59 pm
yeah but isn't zombie dust a pale ale, not an IPA - is it even a fair comparison?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 21, 2014, 09:58:58 pm
http://www.today.com/food/jelly-belly-debuts-first-beer-flavored-jelly-bean-2D11967843
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 22, 2014, 01:52:41 am
so i spent the weekend drinking throughout the bay area. SF friday, wine tasting in napa saturday, and russian river brewery on sunday.  it was tough, you guys, but someone had to do it.

on friday, went over to tornado in the mission for a beer or two.  appreciated the juke box, enjoyed the "i dont give a shit about you" attitude displayed by the bartenders, but ultimately thought their draft list was just okay.  probably an off night, but i had a good time regardless.

saturday was spent tasting at two different vineyards.  since i don't know shit about wine, i'll leave my wine talk to the very miminum, which is: i really enjoy the fact that people make wine in barrels so eventually russian river can age their sour ales in them.

sunday was christmas. we got to russian river early (1130am), and the place was a zoo already.  we managed to score two of the last seats at the bar right infront of the TV for the pats game.  sours mainly ruled the day, with beatification, supplication, and consecration all tasting great, but blind pig and pliny were $3.25 so plenty of those were enjoyed as well :)  thought beat was the best sour, i could drink that all day.  ended up walking away with two sixers of the pig and pliny, and 3 bottles of supplication. 


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on January 22, 2014, 03:30:59 am
That sounds like a great time. I love a good sour beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 10:17:12 am
Definitely sounds like you had a great trip. That's one I hope to make myself at some point. Well, except for the wine tasting.

How did Blind Pig and PTE compare for you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 22, 2014, 10:36:20 am
you "enjoyed the shitty attitude exuded by the bartenders" of that one place?  why would you do that?  is that the new cool and hip thing to do;  savor the tastes of bad service from paid employees?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 10:49:32 am
Seems about right for a city ruled by homeless degenerates.

Quote from: walkonby on January 22, 2014, 10:36:20 am
you "enjoyed the shitty attitude exuded by the bartenders" of that one place?  why would you do that?  is that the new cool and hip thing to do;  savor the tastes of bad service from paid employees?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 22, 2014, 10:57:46 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 10:49:32 am
Seems about right for a city ruled by homeless degenerates.

Quote from: walkonby on January 22, 2014, 10:36:20 am
you "enjoyed the shitty attitude exuded by the bartenders" of that one place?  why would you do that?  is that the new cool and hip thing to do;  savor the tastes of bad service from paid employees?

i almost spit out my breakfast.

it was somewhat TIC, i was told going in that the place was run by a bunch of assholes, so i didn't expect much.  service was fine, i got my beers quick and they were friendly enough. but there was a feeling of "i'm better than you" type in the air... i don't know, i'm having a hard time explaining.  it's not the cool, hip thing to do, i just heard that place does beer fantastically well so i was going to go regardless.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 22, 2014, 10:58:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 10:17:12 am
Definitely sounds like you had a great trip. That's one I hope to make myself at some point. Well, except for the wine tasting.

How did Blind Pig and PTE compare for you?

pig >>> PTE

and i'm still not sure if it's because i realllly like the pig, or if PTE just doesn't do it for me. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 11:00:42 am
You should have told them you were from Seattle. Where the Seahawks play.

Quote from: stevewizzle on January 22, 2014, 10:57:46 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 10:49:32 am
Seems about right for a city ruled by homeless degenerates.

Quote from: walkonby on January 22, 2014, 10:36:20 am
you "enjoyed the shitty attitude exuded by the bartenders" of that one place?  why would you do that?  is that the new cool and hip thing to do;  savor the tastes of bad service from paid employees?

i almost spit out my breakfast.

it was somewhat TIC, i was told going in that the place was run by a bunch of assholes, so i didn't expect much.  service was fine, i got my beers quick and they were friendly enough. but there was a feeling of "i'm better than you" type in the air... i don't know, i'm having a hard time explaining.  it's not the cool, hip thing to do, i just heard that place does beer fantastically well so i was going to go regardless.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 11:01:35 am
Same for me. I think it's a little bit of both reasons for me.

Quote from: stevewizzle on January 22, 2014, 10:58:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 10:17:12 am
Definitely sounds like you had a great trip. That's one I hope to make myself at some point. Well, except for the wine tasting.

How did Blind Pig and PTE compare for you?

pig >>> PTE

and i'm still not sure if it's because i realllly like the pig, or if PTE just doesn't do it for me. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 22, 2014, 11:28:32 am
the toronado is renown for its staff's surly attitude.  you need to go in there knowing that.  sorta like dick's last resort.  it's part of the schtick.  it's been that way since it first opened.

steve, sounds like an awesome weekend (well, minus the Pats' loss, obvs).  did you have the RR pizza?  it's supposed to be good, too.  how much is a bottle of supplication when bought on site?  need anything from this side of the country? ;D  (WWS is now out... just sayin')

speaking of sours: over thanksgiving i bought a Lindmans Cuvee Rene.  i recently opened it, and wow.  strong citrus, like an tart & mildly alcoholic lemonade.  closer to a wine in taste but quaffable like a beer.  it was really, really nice.  my in-laws who had never had a sour before both loved it and asked for more. the misses, who is slowly coming around to some sours, also liked it.  if you've been wanting to find out what this sour beer thing is all about, Cuvee Rene is a great "intro to sours" beer.  it's probably not sour enough for hardcore sour-heads tho.  it's soooooo drinkable.  can't wait to try one on a hot summer day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 11:43:36 am
Haven't been to Toronado SF, but I did go to the one in San Diego. Totally different than what I've heard about the one in SF. Local neighborhood bar with family friendly-ish (people were there with kids, I was not...was part of a business trip) atmosphere in a hip neighborhood, good food and friendly enough service. Not divey at all, yet not pretentious either. Plus, Pliny, fresh Sculpin, and much other good stuff I can't remember.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 22, 2014, 12:32:36 pm
update from The Alchemist:

We have looked at dozens of spaces for a retail shop in the Waterbury area, yet none have met our criteria. We finally realized that we needed to switch gears once again. Instead of depleting resources?both time and money?on a retail shop, we are focused on finding a property where we can build a second small brewery with a retail shop/tasting room.

Although we loved having the public visit us at the existing brewery, it simply wasn?t big enough and we certainly did not produce enough beer to be open to the public. Having no beer to sell four days out of the week is not an ideal situation for anyone. Over the past month, we have had plenty of time to discuss and plan our next brewery. It may evolve a bit over time, but here it is in a nutshell.

We are looking for a piece of property to build a second brewery. Our current brewery will continue to make 9000 barrels of Heady Topper per year. Our distribution company (Alchemy Distributing) will continue to run from this brewery.

Our new brewery will make beer for on premise sales. We will build a large tasting room and retail shop?much like our old shop but bigger and better designed to sustain our customer base and traffic. John has all sorts of exciting things planned in regards to the beer. I will leave the brewery update to him.

full post: http://alchemistbeer.com/blog/#2765
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 12:47:49 pm
They are doing this because one woman was complaining about how disturbing it was to have them as neighbors, right? I'm not sure why they just don't give her a tidy sum for her land and trailer and be done with the problem.

Quote from: sweetcell on January 22, 2014, 12:32:36 pm
update from The Alchemist:

We have looked at dozens of spaces for a retail shop in the Waterbury area, yet none have met our criteria. We finally realized that we needed to switch gears once again. Instead of depleting resources?both time and money?on a retail shop, we are focused on finding a property where we can build a second small brewery with a retail shop/tasting room.

Although we loved having the public visit us at the existing brewery, it simply wasn?t big enough and we certainly did not produce enough beer to be open to the public. Having no beer to sell four days out of the week is not an ideal situation for anyone. Over the past month, we have had plenty of time to discuss and plan our next brewery. It may evolve a bit over time, but here it is in a nutshell.

We are looking for a piece of property to build a second brewery. Our current brewery will continue to make 9000 barrels of Heady Topper per year. Our distribution company (Alchemy Distributing) will continue to run from this brewery.

Our new brewery will make beer for on premise sales. We will build a large tasting room and retail shop?much like our old shop but bigger and better designed to sustain our customer base and traffic. John has all sorts of exciting things planned in regards to the beer. I will leave the brewery update to him.

full post: http://alchemistbeer.com/blog/#2765
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 22, 2014, 01:10:37 pm
rough translation - obtaining HT is going to be WAY more hassle than it should be for the forseeable future

Quote from: sweetcell on January 22, 2014, 12:32:36 pm
update from The Alchemist:

We have looked at dozens of spaces for a retail shop in the Waterbury area, yet none have met our criteria. We finally realized that we needed to switch gears once again. Instead of depleting resources?both time and money?on a retail shop, we are focused on finding a property where we can build a second small brewery with a retail shop/tasting room.

Although we loved having the public visit us at the existing brewery, it simply wasn?t big enough and we certainly did not produce enough beer to be open to the public. Having no beer to sell four days out of the week is not an ideal situation for anyone. Over the past month, we have had plenty of time to discuss and plan our next brewery. It may evolve a bit over time, but here it is in a nutshell.

We are looking for a piece of property to build a second brewery. Our current brewery will continue to make 9000 barrels of Heady Topper per year. Our distribution company (Alchemy Distributing) will continue to run from this brewery.

Our new brewery will make beer for on premise sales. We will build a large tasting room and retail shop?much like our old shop but bigger and better designed to sustain our customer base and traffic. John has all sorts of exciting things planned in regards to the beer. I will leave the brewery update to him.

full post: http://alchemistbeer.com/blog/#2765
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 22, 2014, 01:14:38 pm
I thought what they were saying was that the 9,000 barrels will now be sold through retail chains, and beer for "on-site" sales will be brewed at the new location.  That should technically make it easier to get, not harder.  (Well, not easier for me, but perhaps, for some, people.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 22, 2014, 01:37:00 pm
yes, it will technically be easier to get when the new facility is completed in 18-24 months......until then???

Quote from: grateful on January 22, 2014, 01:14:38 pm
I thought what they were saying was that the 9,000 barrels will now be sold through retail chains, and beer for "on-site" sales will be brewed at the new location.  That should technically make it easier to get, not harder.  (Well, not easier for me, but perhaps, for some, people.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2014, 01:49:50 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 22, 2014, 01:37:00 pm
yes, it will technically be easier to get when the new facility is completed in 18-24 months......until then???

Quote from: grateful on January 22, 2014, 01:14:38 pm
I thought what they were saying was that the 9,000 barrels will now be sold through retail chains, and beer for "on-site" sales will be brewed at the new location.  That should technically make it easier to get, not harder.  (Well, not easier for me, but perhaps, for some, people.)

Stock up on widely available Surly Abrasive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 22, 2014, 01:59:32 pm
having had both fresh in the last 2 weeks (plus Pliny, Zombie Dust and a slew of other great beers) I can categorically state that Heady is (for me) way better - it is absolutely worth the hype

Abrasive was great and had a dankness thing going on that I liked but Heady wins every time for me

Quote from: Yada on January 22, 2014, 01:49:50 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 22, 2014, 01:37:00 pm
yes, it will technically be easier to get when the new facility is completed in 18-24 months......until then???

Quote from: grateful on January 22, 2014, 01:14:38 pm
I thought what they were saying was that the 9,000 barrels will now be sold through retail chains, and beer for "on-site" sales will be brewed at the new location.  That should technically make it easier to get, not harder.  (Well, not easier for me, but perhaps, for some, people.)

Stock up on widely available Surly Abrasive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2014, 02:03:36 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 22, 2014, 01:59:32 pm
having had both fresh in the last 2 weeks (plus Pliny, Zombie Dust and a slew of other great beers) I can categorically state that Heady is (for me) way better - it is absolutely worth the hype

Abrasive was great and had a dankness thing going on that I liked but Heady wins every time for me

Quote from: Yada on January 22, 2014, 01:49:50 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 22, 2014, 01:37:00 pm
yes, it will technically be easier to get when the new facility is completed in 18-24 months......until then???

Quote from: grateful on January 22, 2014, 01:14:38 pm
I thought what they were saying was that the 9,000 barrels will now be sold through retail chains, and beer for "on-site" sales will be brewed at the new location.  That should technically make it easier to get, not harder.  (Well, not easier for me, but perhaps, for some, people.)

Stock up on widely available Surly Abrasive.

I agree that heady is better, just a hair in my opinion but it's nice that you can get a case of Surly quite easily over a three month period, unlike the hassle of getting Heady.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2014, 08:56:55 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 22, 2014, 01:52:41 am
wine tasting in napa saturday, and russian river brewery on sunday

Go to San Francisco in the fall and this is my exact itinerary, though i may hit Lagunitas as well.

Anything else in the bay area worth a visit?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2014, 08:57:38 pm
Head brewer at Bluejacket didn't last long...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2014/01/21/bluejacket-and-head-brewer-megan-parisi-part-ways/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 10:08:29 pm
Take your pick.

http://www.bayareacraftbeer.com/bay-area-craft-breweries/

http://sf.eater.com/archives/2013/08/20/the_ultimate_bay_area_beer_map.php

http://www.sfbrewpub.org/pubs/


Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2014, 08:56:55 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 22, 2014, 01:52:41 am
wine tasting in napa saturday, and russian river brewery on sunday

Go to San Francisco in the fall and this is my exact itinerary, though i may hit Lagunitas as well.

Anything else in the bay area worth a visit?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2014, 10:26:03 pm
Very helpful!  Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 23, 2014, 08:28:49 am
This is all  I got for this thread....

http://www.clashmusic.com/news/super-furry-animals-develop-their-own-beer

Super Furry Animals Develop Their Own Beer
'Psychedelic Wild Welsh Beer...'

Working with Celt Experience Brewery, the brand will be titled Fuzzy - after debut album 'Fuzzy Logic' of course.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2014, 09:52:10 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 11:00:42 am
You should have told them you were from Seattle. Where the Seahawks play.

Quote from: stevewizzle on January 22, 2014, 10:57:46 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 22, 2014, 10:49:32 am
Seems about right for a city ruled by homeless degenerates.

Quote from: walkonby on January 22, 2014, 10:36:20 am
you "enjoyed the shitty attitude exuded by the bartenders" of that one place?  why would you do that?  is that the new cool and hip thing to do;  savor the tastes of bad service from paid employees?

i almost spit out my breakfast.

it was somewhat TIC, i was told going in that the place was run by a bunch of assholes, so i didn't expect much.  service was fine, i got my beers quick and they were friendly enough. but there was a feeling of "i'm better than you" type in the air... i don't know, i'm having a hard time explaining.  it's not the cool, hip thing to do, i just heard that place does beer fantastically well so i was going to go regardless.

we briefly uttered those words at RR, and then left immediately. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2014, 09:56:30 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 22, 2014, 11:28:32 am
steve, sounds like an awesome weekend (well, minus the Pats' loss, obvs).  did you have the RR pizza?  it's supposed to be good, too.  how much is a bottle of supplication when bought on site?  need anything from this side of the country? ;D  (WWS is now out... just sayin')

$13, and nothing has quite caught my eye from the east coast for a while :) i'd part with one in the future though.  we got pliny bites in lieu of pizza, which were tasty enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 23, 2014, 10:11:17 am
And the best brewery tour in America is....


http://www.tripadvisor.com/PressCenter-i4153-c1-Press_Releases.html


Really? Really? And $25 for a brewery tour (only $10 if you're under 21!!!). Are you shitting me?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 23, 2014, 11:13:13 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 23, 2014, 10:11:17 am
And the best brewery tour in America is....


http://www.tripadvisor.com/PressCenter-i4153-c1-Press_Releases.html


Really? Really? And $25 for a brewery tour (only $10 if you're under 21!!!). Are you shitting me?

it's a travel site, not a beer geek site.  they don't care about the beer, they care about the destination and the entertainment value of the tour.  although they make dreadfully boring beers, i've been told by several folks that a tour of a BMC brewery is pretty interesting.  it's huge, it's mechanized, they have big shiny tanks, they have spent money on making the tour "an experience", etc.  the beer itself likely doesn't figure in their rankings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on January 23, 2014, 11:16:13 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 23, 2014, 10:11:17 am
And the best brewery tour in America is....


http://www.tripadvisor.com/PressCenter-i4153-c1-Press_Releases.html


Really? Really? And $25 for a brewery tour (only $10 if you're under 21!!!). Are you shitting me?

The regular tour is free.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 23, 2014, 11:29:10 am
Ironically, I'm planning on going on two of the tours on that list this year. And could go on two more in my travels but will choose to skip.

Quote from: sweetcell on January 23, 2014, 11:13:13 am
Quote from: James Ford on January 23, 2014, 10:11:17 am
And the best brewery tour in America is....


http://www.tripadvisor.com/PressCenter-i4153-c1-Press_Releases.html


Really? Really? And $25 for a brewery tour (only $10 if you're under 21!!!). Are you shitting me?

it's a travel site, not a beer geek site.  they don't care about the beer, they care about the destination and the entertainment value of the tour.  although they make dreadfully boring beers, i've been told by several folks that a tour of a BMC brewery is pretty interesting.  it's huge, it's mechanized, they have big shiny tanks, they have spent money on making the tour "an experience", etc.  the beer itself likely doesn't figure in their rankings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2014, 11:52:55 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2014, 08:56:55 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 22, 2014, 01:52:41 am
wine tasting in napa saturday, and russian river brewery on sunday

Go to San Francisco in the fall and this is my exact itinerary, though i may hit Lagunitas as well.

Anything else in the bay area worth a visit?

we debated on lagunitas, but i hear mixed reviews. if you're up in the area, i would say why not, but if you're on a time crunch - RR brew pub was fantastic and i would say it's a cant miss.

i'm not well versed in the vineyards, but if you need any recommendations my SO has been to a ton. 

and book your dinner reservation well in advance for SF! we tried to get into flour + water three months in advance and it was booked.  we ended up doing delfina instead, which was fantastic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on January 23, 2014, 12:03:12 pm
I would try to avoid Russian River on the weekend if you can. It was incredibly crowded when I was there on a Saturday afternoon. We almost just turned around when we saw how crowded, 45 minute wait for a flight of tasters, etc.

I really liked Toronado, only negative was cash only.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2014, 12:11:26 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on January 23, 2014, 12:03:12 pm
I would try to avoid Russian River on the weekend if you can. It was incredibly crowded when I was there on a Saturday afternoon. We almost just turned around when we saw how crowded, 45 minute wait for a flight of tasters, etc.

I really liked Toronado, only negative was cash only.

ah, good call. if you do go, get there real early.  we were there at 1130, and there were very few seats left, and within 15 minutes, there was a good amount of people standing behind the bar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 23, 2014, 01:24:22 pm
If your sole purpose is to drink Pliny, I had it here (http://www.bendersbar.com) last summer... It was kind of a punk rock/dive with similar surly service to Toronado but it could save you a trip depending on where you're hanging out.

I'll second that Flour and Water was an outrageous dining experience...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 23, 2014, 01:53:20 pm
http://www.jackthreads.com/sales/game-day-drinking-ft-bottle-koozies/12696


check these neat things out
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 23, 2014, 02:19:47 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 23, 2014, 01:53:20 pm
http://www.jackthreads.com/sales/game-day-drinking-ft-bottle-koozies/12696


check these neat things out

Those will look great covering your bottle of Mexican Coke Deer Park.  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 23, 2014, 02:20:52 pm
i dont drink soda, either.  i only drink water.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 23, 2014, 03:40:09 pm
Nice article on Hill Farmstead in the New York Times today.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/19/business/craft-beer-the-very-limited-edition.html?_r=1

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 23, 2014, 03:42:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 23, 2014, 03:40:09 pm
Nice article on Hill Farmstead in the New York Times today.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/19/business/craft-beer-the-very-limited-edition.html?_r=1



I just read that earlier...looking forward to another trip up there this summer hopefully.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 23, 2014, 11:00:20 pm
Thanks to wizzle, skippy and yada for the tips!

Will do our vineyard and brewery stuff during the week. I've had Pliny before and wanted to try some other stuff. Lagunitas isn't a must - do but will squeeze it in if it's on my way.

Dive bar recommendations appreciated. Ate at Slanted Door last go round, guess I need to step up my game?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 23, 2014, 11:25:34 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 23, 2014, 11:00:20 pm

Dive bar recommendations appreciated. Ate at Slanted Door last go round, guess I need to step up my game?

Specs' Twelve Adler Museum Cafe
Wild side west cafe

Quote
I really liked Toronado,
this place is hands down my favorite beer bar and the best part is next door is Rosamunde Sausage Grill

Pi is another good beer bar
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 24, 2014, 05:52:10 pm
Anyone going to 3 Stars on Sunday?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 24, 2014, 09:25:13 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on January 23, 2014, 11:25:34 pm
this place is hands down my favorite beer bar and the best part is next door is Rosamunde Sausage Grill

Pi is another good beer bar

which u can bring into toronado, which i did, and enjoyed it with a pliny.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 24, 2014, 10:50:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 24, 2014, 05:52:10 pm
Anyone going to 3 Stars on Sunday?

what's going on there on sunday?  they're usually closed so i assume some special event.  i've looked around and couldn't find any mention...

i might be there tomorrow (saturday), or my buddy will go for me.  3 Stars has hooked up some local homebrewers with a deal on bulk grain. we'll be picking up the malt in the morning.  an exceptionally cool move on their part.  3 Stars' support of the the homebrewing community has been incredible.  thank you 3 Stars!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 25, 2014, 11:49:01 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 24, 2014, 10:50:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 24, 2014, 05:52:10 pm
Anyone going to 3 Stars on Sunday?

what's going on there on sunday?  they're usually closed so i assume some special event.  i've looked around and couldn't find any mention...

i might be there tomorrow (saturday), or my buddy will go for me.  3 Stars has hooked up some local homebrewers with a deal on bulk grain. we'll be picking up the malt in the morning.  an exceptionally cool move on their part.  3 Stars' support of the the homebrewing community has been incredible.  thank you 3 Stars!

Illuminati kick off.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2014, 01:53:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2014, 11:49:01 am
Illuminati kick off.

oh, right.  i hemmed and hawed, and the club sold out before i made a decision... so the decision was made for me.

please let us know what the beers are, as they come out.  i'm very curious about these limited releases.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 25, 2014, 02:15:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2014, 11:49:01 am
Illuminati kick off.
You know nothing of our organization. Our fiscal year starts in May and we certainly wouldn't have our annual kickoff anywhere you'd know about it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 26, 2014, 12:05:47 am
(http://distilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com/3f29bf5a863511e3babd1241ef079fb6_8.jpg)

just built this guy today :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 26, 2014, 12:16:19 am
sweet!

per your own words, "very jelly".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2014, 11:20:24 pm
Illuminati kick off was awesome, sounds quite promising...hopefully they continue to deliver with some killer brews.

Had  pandemic porter, zombie date night, and two to the dome. All fresh and delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 27, 2014, 11:56:44 am
did you get your first limited-edition beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 27, 2014, 01:39:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 27, 2014, 11:56:44 am
did you get your first limited-edition beer?


Negative... this was more of just a welcome party/celebration. The first bottles will be distributed close to the end of Feb.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2014, 12:08:24 pm
Sam from Dogfish Head appearing on CNBC

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000241265&play=1


http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000241289&play=1
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 31, 2014, 11:31:21 am
I know there are a lot of haters out there but I can't wait to get up to Pa to claim my case of 2014 Hopslam.  Anyone give it a try?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:44:18 am
a good IPA top-ten list: http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/the-definitive-top-10-ipas-as-chosen-by-a-hopped-up-panel-of-beer-writers

and for the IPA haters, this is what you sound like when you go on your "i hate IPAs" rant: http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/why-i-hate-ipas-thrillist-nation.  it's a great look, isn't it?  yeah.  that's you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 31, 2014, 11:50:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:44:18 am
it's a great look, isn't it?  yeah.  that's you.
Yeah, fuck people for not all liking how the exact same things taste. What a cretin, with their taste buds and different preferences and shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:58:43 am
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on January 31, 2014, 11:50:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:44:18 am
it's a great look, isn't it?  yeah.  that's you.
Yeah, fuck people for not all liking how the exact same things taste. What a cretin, with their taste buds and different preferences and shit.

nothing wrong with not liking something, and voicing one's opinion on the dislike.  it's that IPAs seem to engender a stupid kind of hate.  every IPA hater i've come across doesn't hate the beer so much as the idea of the beer - and that's just f*cking annoying.  dunno if you read that article, but the author comes across as a douche IMO.  he doesn't like it because you can't chug it.  how refined.  that opinion is just calling out for respect.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 12:42:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:44:18 am
a good IPA top-ten list: http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/the-definitive-top-10-ipas-as-chosen-by-a-hopped-up-panel-of-beer-writers

didn't we already see this a few months ago?  or am i thinking of something else? why is deadbeat brews overachiever ipa not listed?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 12:53:40 pm
i've really grown to appreciate the lager over the past month.  it kind of started with a destination wedding which only served light beer and budweiser... i drank A LOT of budweiser that weekend, and really enjoyed every one i had.  crisp, fresh, mildly tasteful, and easy drinking.  i've had some other quality lagers as of late, notably jack's abby smoke and dagger and edelstoff helles lager, but that budweiser was damn good in comparison.  just like IPAs, it has it's time and place and it really can be paired perfectly with food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 31, 2014, 12:55:23 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the article intended as satire?

Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:58:43 am
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on January 31, 2014, 11:50:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:44:18 am
it's a great look, isn't it?  yeah.  that's you.
Yeah, fuck people for not all liking how the exact same things taste. What a cretin, with their taste buds and different preferences and shit.

nothing wrong with not liking something, and voicing one's opinion on the dislike.  it's that IPAs seem to engender a stupid kind of hate.  every IPA hater i've come across doesn't hate the beer so much as the idea of the beer - and that's just f*cking annoying.  dunno if you read that article, but the author comes across as a douche IMO.  he doesn't like it because you can't chug it.  how refined.  that opinion is just calling out for respect.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 31, 2014, 12:57:10 pm
Thanks atomic. Now tell us how Lena Dunham looks good naked for a fat chick.

I'd rather drink wine than Budweiser.

Quote from: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 12:53:40 pm
i've really grown to appreciate the lager over the past month.  it kind of started with a destination wedding which only served light beer and budweiser... i drank A LOT of budweiser that weekend, and really enjoyed every one i had.  crisp, fresh, mildly tasteful, and easy drinking.  i've had some other quality lagers as of late, notably jack's abby smoke and dagger and edelstoff helles lager, but that budweiser was damn good in comparison.  just like IPAs, it has it's time and place and it really can be paired perfectly with food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 01:05:35 pm
Quote from: James Ford on January 31, 2014, 12:57:10 pm
Thanks atomic. Now tell us how Lena Dunham looks good naked for a fat chick.

I'd rather drink wine than Budweiser.

Quote from: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 12:53:40 pm
i've really grown to appreciate the lager over the past month.  it kind of started with a destination wedding which only served light beer and budweiser... i drank A LOT of budweiser that weekend, and really enjoyed every one i had.  crisp, fresh, mildly tasteful, and easy drinking.  i've had some other quality lagers as of late, notably jack's abby smoke and dagger and edelstoff helles lager, but that budweiser was damn good in comparison.  just like IPAs, it has it's time and place and it really can be paired perfectly with food.

well that makes sense because your wife doesn't allow you to drink more than 1/2 a beer and bud heavys were made for pounding.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 31, 2014, 01:55:02 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 12:53:40 pm
just like IPAs, it has it's time and place and it really can be paired perfectly with food.

Budweiser is rice beer, no?  So...Chinese food?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 02:00:42 pm
Quote from: grateful on January 31, 2014, 01:55:02 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 12:53:40 pm
just like IPAs, it has it's time and place and it really can be paired perfectly with food.

Budweiser is rice beer, no?  So...Chinese food?

i paired smoke and dagger, a quasi-rauchbier, with shepperd pie.

i'm not sure budweiser would have any excellent pairing, but less flavorful chinese cuisine or noodles would certainly pair well with a bud.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on January 31, 2014, 02:10:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:58:43 am
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on January 31, 2014, 11:50:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:44:18 am
it's a great look, isn't it?  yeah.  that's you.
Yeah, fuck people for not all liking how the exact same things taste. What a cretin, with their taste buds and different preferences and shit.

nothing wrong with not liking something, and voicing one's opinion on the dislike.  it's that IPAs seem to engender a stupid kind of hate.  every IPA hater i've come across doesn't hate the beer so much as the idea of the beer - and that's just f*cking annoying.  dunno if you read that article, but the author comes across as a douche IMO.  he doesn't like it because you can't chug it.  how refined.  that opinion is just calling out for respect.

I don't see anything wrong with hating IPA's.  To me 99 percent of the taste like shit.  Lets cover up the fact that we don't know how to make beer by pouring a shit load of  hops into it and we won't be able to taste it.  Dogfishhead 60 minute is decent but a good IPA is far and few between. And it doesn't help that douchebags like James Ford and other novice beer drinkers like him love them so much.  

Maybe one day he and his ilk will develop the ability to detect the nuiances of flavor without having to be hit over head with hops.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 31, 2014, 02:26:37 pm
C+

Brian could have written this so much better.

Quote from: atomic on January 31, 2014, 02:10:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:58:43 am
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on January 31, 2014, 11:50:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 11:44:18 am
it's a great look, isn't it?  yeah.  that's you.
Yeah, fuck people for not all liking how the exact same things taste. What a cretin, with their taste buds and different preferences and shit.

nothing wrong with not liking something, and voicing one's opinion on the dislike.  it's that IPAs seem to engender a stupid kind of hate.  every IPA hater i've come across doesn't hate the beer so much as the idea of the beer - and that's just f*cking annoying.  dunno if you read that article, but the author comes across as a douche IMO.  he doesn't like it because you can't chug it.  how refined.  that opinion is just calling out for respect.

I don't see anything wrong with hating IPA's.  To me 99 percent of the taste like shit.  Lets cover up the fact that we don't know how to make beer by pouring a shit load of  hops into it and we won't be able to taste it.  Dogfishhead 60 minute is decent but a good IPA is far and few between. And it doesn't help that douchebags like James Ford and other novice beer drinkers like him love them so much.  

Maybe one day he and his ilk will develop the ability to detect the nuiances of flavor without having to be hit over head with hops.  

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 02:49:42 pm
eh i tend to agree.  barrel aging and overly hopped beers can make a bad beer good, and a good beer great. not saying it's a bad thing, i tend to love both, and think there is a higher ceiling for quality and taste when you barrel age or over hop. but personally, i'm done purchasing IPAs, because i've recently discovered i can brew my own IPA just as good or better than most of what i can buy.  i'm an okay brewer, but honestly, the IPA i made took very little skill. just need the right equipment, and a lot of hops. 

i think there's a big resurgence of beers like budweiser on the horizon.  i don't think there will be any slow down in hop-forward beers, but i think a lot of people are going to start realizing they can have quality lagers in addition to their fresh, local IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 31, 2014, 02:57:28 pm
I'm hoping the resurgence will taste more like Devil's Backbone Vienna Lager or Victory Prima Pils than Budweiser. But I still won't be buying any, no matter how cool it gets.

Quote from: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 02:49:42 pm
eh i tend to agree.  barrel aging and overly hopped beers can make a bad beer good, and a good beer great. not saying it's a bad thing, i tend to love both, and think there is a higher ceiling for quality and taste when you barrel age or over hop. but personally, i'm done purchasing IPAs, because i've recently discovered i can brew my own IPA just as good or better than most of what i can buy.  i'm an okay brewer, but honestly, the IPA i made took very little skill. just need the right equipment, and a lot of hops. 

i think there's a big resurgence of beers like budweiser on the horizon.  i don't think there will be any slow down in hop-forward beers, but i think a lot of people are going to start realizing they can have quality lagers in addition to their fresh, local IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 03:57:22 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 02:49:42 pm
eh i tend to agree.  barrel aging and overly hopped beers can make a bad beer good, and a good beer great. 
 
next logical step: it makes a great beer stellar.  i don't think anyone is saying (i certainly am not) that just add hops and gutter water will get a 98 on BA.  there are literally thousands of IPAs out there but people only chase down a handful.  sam adams has recently launched Rebel IPA... <crickets>.

Quote from: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 02:49:42 pm
i think there's a big resurgence of beers like budweiser on the horizon. 

doubtful, on two counts:

1) the type of folks who would be responsible for a resurgence (beer enthusiasts, reviewers, journalist and bloggers, etc_ will not embrace BMC.  should the momentum swing towards less intense beers (more on this below), it would focus on craft beers.  there is a stigma with the big industrial brands (deserved in my opinion - you can go subtle, light, crisp, etc without being tasteless).
2) supporters of less intensity have been proclaiming the rise of sessions beers and the like for a good 2 years now.  i don't see it.  sour beers were also supposed to be the next big thing, but they're limited by production: because of the time an resources required to make most sours, brewers can't pump out the volume required to maintain a "new wave."  session beers, let along industrial beer like bud, certainly don't have that problem.  the pale ales that are doing best out there are to the higher end of hoppiness and ABV.

IPAs will be unseated some day as the king of craft... but it ain't happening any time soon, IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 05:50:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 03:57:22 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 02:49:42 pm
eh i tend to agree.  barrel aging and overly hopped beers can make a bad beer good, and a good beer great. 
 
next logical step: it makes a great beer stellar.  i don't think anyone is saying (i certainly am not) that just add hops and gutter water will get a 98 on BA.  there are literally thousands of IPAs out there but people only chase down a handful.  sam adams has recently launched Rebel IPA... <crickets>.

they chase down the freshness, not the recipe.

Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 03:57:22 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 31, 2014, 02:49:42 pm
i think there's a big resurgence of beers like budweiser on the horizon. 

doubtful, on two counts:

1) the type of folks who would be responsible for a resurgence (beer enthusiasts, reviewers, journalist and bloggers, etc_ will not embrace BMC.  should the momentum swing towards less intense beers (more on this below), it would focus on craft beers.  there is a stigma with the big industrial brands (deserved in my opinion - you can go subtle, light, crisp, etc without being tasteless).
woah, you're arguing a point i never tried to make. who said anything about big industrial brands?  a beer can be like budweiser and not be from macrobrewery. the fact that budweiser is mass-produced and still tastes excellent (usually) might mean local brewers who produce a similar product could start eating away at the market share.

Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 03:57:22 pm
2) supporters of less intensity have been proclaiming the rise of sessions beers and the like for a good 2 years now.  i don't see it.  sour beers were also supposed to be the next big thing, but they're limited by production: because of the time an resources required to make most sours, brewers can't pump out the volume required to maintain a "new wave."  session beers, let along industrial beer like bud, certainly don't have that problem.  the pale ales that are doing best out there are to the higher end of hoppiness and ABV.
feel free to come to the west coast, where sour beers sit on the shelves and collect dust. production is way ahead of demand. oud tart, tart of darkness, sang noir, etc.. all some of the finest sours crafted in the world are shelf beers now. for lagers, i'm just saying i think a resurgence will occur.  they might sit on the shelf along with the sours and the session beers, but i bet it happens. 

Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2014, 03:57:22 pm
IPAs will be unseated some day as the king of craft... but it ain't happening any time soon, IMO.

gruit will be the next king of craft. but king of beers? there's only one.*


*brought to you by anhueser-busch inbev
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 31, 2014, 10:14:54 pm
http://www.nvdaily.com/news/2014/01/craft-brewery-to-open-in-woodstock.php

my neck of the woods, went and got, all fancy pants.  too bad, i think, that beer is, a tool of the devil.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 31, 2014, 10:39:06 pm
There is no devil and six ounces of beer a day has its health benefits.

Quote from: walkonby on January 31, 2014, 10:14:54 pm
http://www.nvdaily.com/news/2014/01/craft-brewery-to-open-in-woodstock.php

my neck of the woods, went and got, all fancy pants.  too bad, i think, that beer is, a tool of the devil.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 31, 2014, 10:53:39 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 31, 2014, 10:14:54 pm
http://www.nvdaily.com/news/2014/01/craft-brewery-to-open-in-woodstock.php

my neck of the woods, went and got, all fancy pants.  too bad, i think, that beer is, a tool of the devil.

so that is where you live..man that is far..

i got to say this is a pretty boring friday night..maybe i'll go back to washington bio
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 01, 2014, 11:51:28 am
ELI5: the difference between IPAs and American Pale Ales, please.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 01, 2014, 12:30:51 pm
I'll let a better writer than me answer that one.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/home/883809-129/searchampdistill


Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 01, 2014, 11:51:28 am
ELI5: the difference between IPAs and American Pale Ales, please.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 01, 2014, 10:59:24 pm
IPA is the pale ale's bigger brother.  same yeast types and similar malt bill (grains).  main differences are little more alcohol and a lot more hops in the IPA - to the point where there is not attempt to be balanced, it's all about the hops.  it's a continuum so there is no clear delineation.  it's also a moving target: beers are getting bigger and hoppier, so an IPA from a few years might be considered a PA today.

a separate line of distinction is english vs. american.  english pale ales and IPAs will be maltier and more balanced, american PAs & IPAs will be hoppier and drier.

if you want a technical definition, here's how the BJCP defines american PAs and IPAs:
http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style10.php#1a
http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style14.php#1b
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 02, 2014, 03:22:58 pm
don't forget the distinction of IPLs vs. IPAs ;)

i brewed a black IPL yesterday.  couldn't find anything out there similar to the recipe on the interwebs, so i'm excited to see how this turns out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 03, 2014, 09:19:27 pm
The 100 best beers in the world, listed alphabetically. And sorry, Bobby Dylan, not a one of them from Germany. That sounds about right.

http://www.ratebeer.com/RateBeerBest/bestbeers-world2014.asp

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2014, 02:13:06 am
i had a bunch of beers lined up for my super bowl party last night.  things transpired in such a way that i didn't get to open as many bottles as i was hoping to.  the growler of Enjoy By kept me & guests occupied during halftime and the 3rd quarter, and my homebrewed IPAs were treating me just fine all night long.  i had my first bottle of a brett'ed saison after the game, which was a bit of a waste.  it was really nice but it's not like i had a very discerning palate after several hours of eating and drinking.

so tonight, as i cleaned up the last of the left-over party messes i decided to open one of the bottle that i was really looking forward to last night: Jolly Pumpkin La Roja, batch 10 (bottled 4/23/13).  wow.  what a fabulous sour.  not my all-time fav, but definitely top 5.  what an enjoyable beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2014, 01:47:13 pm
has this been posted here yet?  i think so, but it didn't come up in the search...
http://denizensbrewing.com/
https://www.facebook.com/citizensbrewco

and yet another new brewery... does anyone here know sign language?
http://lockthroat.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF_1MS9FnQU
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 04, 2014, 01:51:48 pm
Had a Reissdorf Kolsch last night.  It was pretty good.  I thought it wasn't as good as Gaffel so I then drank one of those.  And now I am not so sure.

I think I appreciated Kolsch beer so much because the time I tried to make a Kolsch it turned out so badlly. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 04, 2014, 03:36:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 04, 2014, 01:47:13 pm
has this been posted here yet?  i think so, but it didn't come up in the search...
http://denizensbrewing.com/
https://www.facebook.com/citizensbrewco

and yet another new brewery... does anyone here know sign language?
http://lockthroat.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF_1MS9FnQU

Yeah... and we discussed how lame it was for DC Brau to issue a cease and desist order against them due to their old, poorly named, "Citizen's Brewing Co."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2014, 04:32:44 pm
well that explains why a search for "Denizen" didn't come up with anything.  d'oh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 04, 2014, 04:59:49 pm
Neither Citizen's nor Denizens are exactly awe inspiring brewery names that are going to make me want to check out their beers. Talk about generic and lame sounding.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2014, 05:09:41 pm
who cares about the name.  i'll go to Dad's Brewery if they have interesting beer.  some might equate lack of creativity in naming with lack of creativity in brewing, but i don't make the connection.

maybe Citizen's/Denizens spent all their startup money on equipment, and couldn't afford any marketing ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2014, 05:53:26 pm
drink beer, fight bigotry in russia:

http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article/hello-my-name-is-vladimir
http://www.brewdog.com/product/hello-my-name-is-vladimir
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 04, 2014, 06:57:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 04, 2014, 04:59:49 pm
Neither Citizen's nor Denizens are exactly awe inspiring brewery names that are going to make me want to check out their beers. Talk about generic and lame sounding.

I have very low hopes for this brewery, however, who cares what they name the place?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 04, 2014, 07:43:05 pm
You guys obviously don't work in creative fields (neither do I).

Why so you have very low hopes?

Quote from: Yada on February 04, 2014, 06:57:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 04, 2014, 04:59:49 pm
Neither Citizen's nor Denizens are exactly awe inspiring brewery names that are going to make me want to check out their beers. Talk about generic and lame sounding.

I have very low hopes for this brewery, however, who cares what they name the place?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 04, 2014, 08:21:39 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 04, 2014, 07:43:05 pm
You guys obviously don't work in creative fields (neither do I).

Why so you have very low hopes?

Quote from: Yada on February 04, 2014, 06:57:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 04, 2014, 04:59:49 pm
Neither Citizen's nor Denizens are exactly awe inspiring brewery names that are going to make me want to check out their beers. Talk about generic and lame sounding.

I have very low hopes for this brewery, however, who cares what they name the place?

The location is terrible and has had multiple other restaurants/bars fail in the past few years. People in Silver Spring hardly support the restaurants/bars that are already there and people that don't live in Silver Spring sure as hell aren't going to be making trips to a brewery that's not in their neighborhood. It's not a hot spot like the Navy Yard area per se. These issues mixed with the fact that they're trying to pull off some Blue Jacket-esque style and brew over 20 beers sounds like a recipe for a disaster.

I hope to be pleasantly surprised, but unless current trends of Silver Spring denizens change, that place will probably last a handful of years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:26:02 am
Anheiser Busch buys up another craft brewery (the 34th largest in USA)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/anheuser-busch-agrees-purchase-blue-140000014.html

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 05, 2014, 10:28:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:26:02 am
Anheiser Busch buys up another craft brewery (the 34th largest in USA)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/anheuser-busch-agrees-purchase-blue-140000014.html



Never heard of them. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:37:12 am
Good for you. Shows that you are a true craft beer lover that you've never heard of Anheiser Busch!

Quote from: atomic on February 05, 2014, 10:28:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:26:02 am
Anheiser Busch buys up another craft brewery (the 34th largest in USA)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/anheuser-busch-agrees-purchase-blue-140000014.html



Never heard of them. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 05, 2014, 02:22:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:37:12 am
Good for you. Shows that you are a true craft beer lover that you've never heard of Anheiser Busch!

Quote from: atomic on February 05, 2014, 10:28:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:26:02 am
Anheiser Busch buys up another craft brewery (the 34th largest in USA)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/anheuser-busch-agrees-purchase-blue-140000014.html



Never heard of them. 

I guess as long as they don't try and buy up Sam Adams, Miller SAB, or Heinken no one will care. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 02:41:27 pm
With 87 replies on four hours, I guess some people care.

http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/anheuser-busch-inbev-to-acquire-blue-point-brewing.150918/


Quote from: atomic on February 05, 2014, 02:22:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:37:12 am
Good for you. Shows that you are a true craft beer lover that you've never heard of Anheiser Busch!

Quote from: atomic on February 05, 2014, 10:28:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:26:02 am
Anheiser Busch buys up another craft brewery (the 34th largest in USA)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/anheuser-busch-agrees-purchase-blue-140000014.html



Never heard of them. 

I guess as long as they don't try and buy up Sam Adams, Miller SAB, or Heinken no one will care. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 05, 2014, 03:05:02 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 02:41:27 pm
With 87 replies on four hours, I guess some people care.

http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/anheuser-busch-inbev-to-acquire-blue-point-brewing.150918/


Quote from: atomic on February 05, 2014, 02:22:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:37:12 am
Good for you. Shows that you are a true craft beer lover that you've never heard of Anheiser Busch!

Quote from: atomic on February 05, 2014, 10:28:59 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 05, 2014, 10:26:02 am
Anheiser Busch buys up another craft brewery (the 34th largest in USA)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/anheuser-busch-agrees-purchase-blue-140000014.html



Never heard of them. 

I guess as long as they don't try and buy up Sam Adams, Miller SAB, or Heinken no one will care. 

I mean important people.  Like people who could keep the sale from going through. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 05, 2014, 04:06:17 pm
Brewers Ball Tix now on sale
http://www.dcbrewersball.org/ (http://www.dcbrewersball.org/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 06, 2014, 12:30:52 am
in case anyone is interesting in tasting some pro-am collabs, the Meridian Pint will be serving several beers brewed by members of the DC Homebrewers club on professional systems on Tuesday, February 11: http://meridianpint.com/content/dc-homebrewers-draft-showcase.  should be an awesome night.

the Sphinx will be tapped for the first time at The Big Hunt in Dupont Circle on Thursday Feb 6. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 10:01:36 am
Did anyone else work out last night?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 10:01:54 am
Oh hey that movie was sweet
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 10:07:03 am
Isn't coffee the best drink?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 07, 2014, 10:07:32 am
Did anyone hear the new Pissed Jeans record? Its amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 07, 2014, 10:23:12 am
Some people would call it working out. I call it making love.

Quote from: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 10:01:36 am
Did anyone else work out last night?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 07, 2014, 10:23:57 am
Drinking Buddies? Yeah, nice product placement for craft beer.

Quote from: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 10:01:54 am
Oh hey that movie was sweet
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 07, 2014, 10:24:43 am
Band name is almost as bad as Diarrhea Planet.

Drink too much beer and you're likely to have both problems.


Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 07, 2014, 10:07:32 am
Did anyone hear the new Pissed Jeans record? Its amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 07, 2014, 10:25:56 am
I have never actually drank a whole cup of coffee. The fact that you like it tells me everything I need to know about you.  :P Curiously, I do like coffee flavored beer.

Quote from: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 10:07:03 am
Isn't coffee the best drink?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 07, 2014, 10:29:17 am
Quote from: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 10:07:03 am
Isn't coffee the best drink?


Actually, I have never understood the appeal of coffee.  They tell me it is an acquired taste like beer but I keep trying and I never acquire a taste for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 07, 2014, 10:30:38 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 07, 2014, 10:25:56 am
I have never actually drank a whole cup of coffee. The fact that you like it tells me everything I need to know about you.  :P Curiously, I do like coffee flavored beer.

Quote from: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 10:07:03 am
Isn't coffee the best drink?


That is not suprising.  I like coffee flavored beer, coffee flavored ice cream, coffee flavored milkshakes.. it is weird. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 07, 2014, 11:53:23 am
Another outstanding batch of Hopslam!   Finishes like no other - so dry and clean.  Almost like a nice champagne....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2014, 10:43:17 am
As of Saturday, growlers of Nugget Nectar for $13.99 at Perfect Pour, they've also released bombers this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 11, 2014, 10:50:27 am
Oh Hopslam.  Did I miss it this year?  Is it still on the shelves?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 11:17:47 am
Some places got it yesterday. Others are reporting they will receive it tomorrow.

There's always a big rush to get that first shipment, but people forget that they make more than one shipment. If you don't get any this week, there will be a much less sought after second shipment in a few weeks.

Me, I still have a case of Zombie Dust to drink. So I don't think I'll get a six pack. My local beer place got a couple of kegs of it and they do growlers, so maybe I'll get a 32 oz growler of it. That would beat the draft prices Churchkey charges. Ah, anything to avoid giving Churchkey my business.

Quote from: grateful on February 11, 2014, 10:50:27 am
Oh Hopslam.  Did I miss it this year?  Is it still on the shelves?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 11, 2014, 11:27:53 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 11:17:47 am
Some places got it yesterday. Others are reporting they will receive it tomorrow.

There's always a big rush to get that first shipment, but people forget that they make more than one shipment. If you don't get any this week, there will be a much less sought after second shipment in a few weeks.

Me, I still have a case of Zombie Dust to drink. So I don't think I'll get a six pack. My local beer place got a couple of kegs of it and they do growlers, so maybe I'll get a 32 oz growler of it. That would beat the draft prices Churchkey charges. Ah, anything to avoid giving Churchkey my business.

Quote from: grateful on February 11, 2014, 10:50:27 am


Oh Hopslam.  Did I miss it this year?  Is it still on the shelves?

According to the distributor I deal with in Pa, who supplies the eastern side if the state including Philadelphia, there will not be another shipment
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on February 11, 2014, 11:36:52 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2014/02/10/bells-hopslam-hits-washington-tonight/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2014/02/10/bells-hopslam-hits-washington-tonight/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 11:51:28 am
That's nice, but Sucaba is the real knockout that will be arriving any time now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 11, 2014, 12:04:41 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 11:51:28 am
That's nice, but Sucaba is the real knockout that will be arriving any time now.

Ooh that reminds me!  I have a bottle I saved from last year :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 12:41:23 pm
Want to come to a 9:30 forum bottle share, hehehe?

Quote from: grateful on February 11, 2014, 12:04:41 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 11:51:28 am
That's nice, but Sucaba is the real knockout that will be arriving any time now.

Ooh that reminds me!  I have a bottle I saved from last year :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2014, 01:46:17 pm
 
That's nice, but Sucaba KBS is the real knockout that will be arriving any time now
April 1st. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 08:02:36 pm
Hey Baltimore people, Max's Begian Beer Fest is this weekend.
MAX'S 10TH ANNUAL BELGIAN BEER FEST

FEB 14-17, 2014
11am-2am each day

Yes, it our 10th Anniversary of the Belgian this year. So we will be pulling out all the stops for this one.
Feb 14-16 will be our traditional Belgian beer fest and Feb 17 will be our 2nd Annual Sour/Wild Ale Day

We will have over 160 Belgian beers on draft, over 200 Belgian beers in Bottles and a full Belgian inspired food menu
NO ENTRANCE FEE

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 08:02:50 pm
Hey DC people, Mad Fox's Barleywine FEstival is next weekend.

http://madfoxbrewing.com/4th-annual-barleywine-festival
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 12, 2014, 11:19:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 08:02:36 pm
Hey Baltimore people, Max's Begian Beer Fest is this weekend.
MAX'S 10TH ANNUAL BELGIAN BEER FEST

FEB 14-17, 2014
11am-2am each day

Yes, it our 10th Anniversary of the Belgian this year. So we will be pulling out all the stops for this one.
Feb 14-16 will be our traditional Belgian beer fest and Feb 17 will be our 2nd Annual Sour/Wild Ale Day

We will have over 160 Belgian beers on draft, over 200 Belgian beers in Bottles and a full Belgian inspired food menu
NO ENTRANCE FEE



wow.  some amazing stuff on offer there.  cantillon fou foune & iris on tap!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 12, 2014, 02:39:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 08:02:50 pm
Hey DC people, Mad Fox's Barleywine FEstival is next weekend.

http://madfoxbrewing.com/4th-annual-barleywine-festival

can't wait for seattle's barleywine fest :D

http://craftbeermonger.com/2014/01/09/brouwers-cafes-12th-annual-hard-liver-barleywine-festival-starts-march-15th/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 12, 2014, 05:12:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 12, 2014, 02:39:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 08:02:50 pm
Hey DC people, Mad Fox's Barleywine FEstival is next weekend.

http://madfoxbrewing.com/4th-annual-barleywine-festival


can't wait for seattle's barleywine fest :D

http://craftbeermonger.com/2014/01/09/brouwers-cafes-12th-annual-hard-liver-barleywine-festival-starts-march-15th/

seattle wins by a landslide (again...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 12, 2014, 06:25:35 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 12, 2014, 05:12:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on February 12, 2014, 02:39:10 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 11, 2014, 08:02:50 pm
Hey DC people, Mad Fox's Barleywine FEstival is next weekend.

http://madfoxbrewing.com/4th-annual-barleywine-festival


can't wait for seattle's barleywine fest :D

http://craftbeermonger.com/2014/01/09/brouwers-cafes-12th-annual-hard-liver-barleywine-festival-starts-march-15th/

seattle wins by a landslide (again...)

fwiw, this and big wood (also hosted by brouwers, all barrel-aged beer tap takeover) pretty much are the best events of the year for seattle.

i'll be in line at brouwers at 10am for hard liver.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on February 13, 2014, 02:54:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbn9-0WuvFI
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 13, 2014, 11:09:47 pm
Quote from: Shemp on February 13, 2014, 02:54:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbn9-0WuvFI

love the youtube comments on this one
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2014, 11:57:44 am
Victory Hop Ranch... not worth drinking again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 11:59:40 am
It's good enough to drink the three I have left, but agree, won't be buying it again. Definitely prefer Dirt Wolf.

Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 11:57:44 am
Victory Hop Ranch... not worth drinking again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2014, 12:02:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 11:59:40 am
It's good enough to drink the three I have left, but agree, won't be buying it again. Definitely prefer Dirt Wolf.

Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 11:57:44 am
Victory Hop Ranch... not worth drinking again.

I bought a single for the James Ford approved price of $2.99, did not enjoy.

I will say the 2.14.14 Enjoy By IPA is the best of that bunch that I've had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 12:22:34 pm
Great! Having the 2.14.14 with dinner tonight! 11 ozs of 9.4 abv beer on a Friday night, getting a little wild.



Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 12:02:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 11:59:40 am
It's good enough to drink the three I have left, but agree, won't be buying it again. Definitely prefer Dirt Wolf.

Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 11:57:44 am
Victory Hop Ranch... not worth drinking again.

I bought a single for the James Ford approved price of $2.99, did not enjoy.

I will say the 2.14.14 Enjoy By IPA is the best of that bunch that I've had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2014, 12:36:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 12:22:34 pm
Great! Having the 2.14.14 with dinner tonight! 11 ozs of 9.4 abv beer on a Friday night, getting a little wild.



Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 12:02:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 11:59:40 am
It's good enough to drink the three I have left, but agree, won't be buying it again. Definitely prefer Dirt Wolf.

Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 11:57:44 am
Victory Hop Ranch... not worth drinking again.

I bought a single for the James Ford approved price of $2.99, did not enjoy.

I will say the 2.14.14 Enjoy By IPA is the best of that bunch that I've had.

(http://media.jrn.com/images/FB_thumbs-up_.jpg)

Had one of these yesterday, pretty tasty... A little light bit of a light mouth feel, but a good snowday beer.

(http://cheapseateats.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/7eb4_2611.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 12:55:25 pm
We split a barrel aged stout yesterday brewed by one of our own 9:30 forum members. Not quite BCBS quality, but a nice effort nonetheless. My wife commented that it didn't have too much of a certain taste component that she dislikes about some stouts, so the brewer didn't quite live up to his board screen name (a good thing in her book).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2014, 01:49:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 12:02:53 pm
I will say the 2.14.14 Enjoy By IPA is the best of that bunch that I've had.

had a growler of that during the Sub-par Bowl, essentially split it with a buddy.  one might say it was too delicious... at least i sure did the next morning, didn't need to plow through that thing as fast as we did :D  tasty indeed!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 14, 2014, 01:57:29 pm
I had a Hopslam on Wednesday as my bi-annually consumed beer. It was less hoppy than I recall.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2014, 03:49:22 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 14, 2014, 01:57:29 pm
I had a Hopslam on Wednesday as my bi-annually consumed beer. It was less hoppy than I recall.

i haven't tried this year's batch, and i'm not sure that i will.  there are too many other amazing super-hoppy beers out there to justify hopslam's high price.  the whole foods by my office just tweeted that they have 'slam for sale today.  at twice the price of other craft sixers, imma gunna pass.  i might splurge for a glass if i see it at a bar. 

i'm also IPA'ed out these days.  i have a basement full of really hoppy homebrew that i'm plowing through.  a buddy has been gifting me OTWOA and a few other hop bombs, had a growler of Enjoy By, went through a lot of The Truth over the holidays... time to go on a belgian kick ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2014, 04:16:34 pm
Nice little draft list this weekend at Perfect Pour...I wonder what the cost of BCBS is?


Celebrate Valentine's Day with Growlers Not Flowers!

pic.twitter.com/1jzlRFzwu6
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 04:25:32 pm
My local Whole Foods got a keg of Hopslam. This particular WF does growlers only. But they are holding off tapping it "because we're low on growlers".

Don't most people have growlers already? Geez Louise, let's let the beer get old because we don't have enough growlers to sell.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 04:35:23 pm
Probably way more than it should be, but less than the two Struise beers.


Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 04:16:34 pm
Nice little draft list this weekend at Perfect Pour...I wonder what the cost of BCBS is?


Celebrate Valentine's Day with Growlers Not Flowers!

pic.twitter.com/1jzlRFzwu6
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 14, 2014, 04:44:54 pm
Drank a Piercing Pils from Dogfish Head last night.  Waitress told me it was a Pilsner.  It was not.  Too much hops.  Fail. 

Union Craft is so much better than any of the other local brewers.  The only brewer that actually knows how to brew different styles of beer and does it well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 14, 2014, 05:00:54 pm
Ermm, I think piercing pils is a czech pilsner with adjuncts.  It sounds like you got exactly what you ordered, didn't like it, and are now blaming the brewer.  Sorry you had to pay $10 for this lesson.  Thats part of the joy of trying  new things.  Maybe you'd be better off sticking to what you know...less disappointment that way.

From BA:

The Czech Pilsner, or sometimes known as the Bohemian Pilsner, is light straw to golden color and crystal clear. Hops are very prevalent usually with a spicy bitterness and or a spicy floral flavor and aroma, notably one of the defining characteristics of the Saaz hop. Smooth and crisp with a clean malty palate, many are grassy. Some of the originals will show some archaic yeast characteristics similar to very mild buttery or fusel (rose like alcohol) flavors and aromas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 14, 2014, 05:14:02 pm
Quote from: grateful on February 14, 2014, 05:00:54 pm
Ermm, I think piercing pils is a czech pilsner with adjuncts.  It sounds like you got exactly what you ordered, didn't like it, and are now blaming the brewer.  Sorry you had to pay $10 for this lesson.  Thats part of the joy of trying  new things.  Maybe you'd be better off sticking to what you know...less disappointment that way.

From BA:

The Czech Pilsner, or sometimes known as the Bohemian Pilsner, is light straw to golden color and crystal clear. Hops are very prevalent usually with a spicy bitterness and or a spicy floral flavor and aroma, notably one of the defining characteristics of the Saaz hop. Smooth and crisp with a clean malty palate, many are grassy. Some of the originals will show some archaic yeast characteristics similar to very mild buttery or fusel (rose like alcohol) flavors and aromas.


The waitress didn't charge me for the beer so it didn't cost me anything. I drank it.  She said it was a Pilsner before I ordered.  She didn't go into details about its type.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2014, 05:14:37 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 14, 2014, 04:44:54 pm
Drank a Piercing Pils from Dogfish Head last night.  Waitress told me it was a Pilsner.  It was not.  Too much hops.  Fail. 

Union Craft is so much better than any of the other local brewers.  The only brewer that actually knows how to brew different styles of beer and does it well.

I've had that pils and can't say I found it hoppy at all... probably the second best beer Dogfish Head makes imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 14, 2014, 05:20:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 05:14:37 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 14, 2014, 04:44:54 pm
Drank a Piercing Pils from Dogfish Head last night.  Waitress told me it was a Pilsner.  It was not.  Too much hops.  Fail. 

Union Craft is so much better than any of the other local brewers.  The only brewer that actually knows how to brew different styles of beer and does it well.

I've had that pils and can't say I found it hoppy at all... probably the second best beer Dogfish Head makes imo.

Yada:

Shit taste in beer - check
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2014, 05:35:20 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 14, 2014, 05:20:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 05:14:37 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 14, 2014, 04:44:54 pm
Drank a Piercing Pils from Dogfish Head last night.  Waitress told me it was a Pilsner.  It was not.  Too much hops.  Fail. 

Union Craft is so much better than any of the other local brewers.  The only brewer that actually knows how to brew different styles of beer and does it well.

I've had that pils and can't say I found it hoppy at all... probably the second best beer Dogfish Head makes imo.

Yada:

Shit taste in beer - check



(http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4515511/old_man_reading_book_to_children_12nhm0009rf.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 14, 2014, 05:45:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 05:35:20 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 14, 2014, 05:20:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2014, 05:14:37 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 14, 2014, 04:44:54 pm
Drank a Piercing Pils from Dogfish Head last night.  Waitress told me it was a Pilsner.  It was not.  Too much hops.  Fail. 

Union Craft is so much better than any of the other local brewers.  The only brewer that actually knows how to brew different styles of beer and does it well.

I've had that pils and can't say I found it hoppy at all... probably the second best beer Dogfish Head makes imo.

Yada:

Shit taste in beer - check



(http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4515511/old_man_reading_book_to_children_12nhm0009rf.jpg)

Cute photo.  Those kids look very happy. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 15, 2014, 12:20:41 am
Quote from: grateful on February 14, 2014, 05:00:54 pm
Ermm, I think piercing pils is a czech pilsner with adjuncts.  It sounds like you got exactly what you ordered, didn't like it, and are now blaming the brewer.  Sorry you had to pay $10 for this lesson.  Thats part of the joy of trying  new things.  Maybe you'd be better off sticking to what you know...less disappointment that way.

From BA:

The Czech Pilsner, or sometimes known as the Bohemian Pilsner, is light straw to golden color and crystal clear. Hops are very prevalent usually with a spicy bitterness and or a spicy floral flavor and aroma, notably one of the defining characteristics of the Saaz hop. Smooth and crisp with a clean malty palate, many are grassy. Some of the originals will show some archaic yeast characteristics similar to very mild buttery or fusel (rose like alcohol) flavors and aromas.

pilsner is by definition a bitter and hoppy style.  it's the hoppiest of all lagers.  and really, PP clocks in at 35 IBUs... is this in relation to something idiotic that a'front said?

from the BJCP (AKA the people who define beer styles):
Aroma: Rich with complex malt and a spicy, floral Saaz hop bouquet. Flavor: Rich, complex maltiness combined with a pronounced yet soft and rounded bitterness and spicy flavor from Saaz hops. Bitterness is prominent... (http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style02.php#1b)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 15, 2014, 12:34:08 am
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 14, 2014, 01:57:29 pm
I had a Hopslam on Wednesday as my bi-annually consumed beer. It was less hoppy than I recall.

agreed.  couldn't bring myself to spend 27.99 + DC tax on a sixer, but they also had singles for 4.99 so i grabbed one just to say that i tasted this year's batch.  my tasting notes:

bottled on 1/21, so a little over 3 weeks old
initial impression: interesting mix of bitter and sweet
with a few more sips, sweetness overpowers the bitterness so it's not crazy bitter (despite the reputation)
aroma was decent but underwhelming
complex hop layering - nice.  i'm getting some chinook in there, and not much simcoe despite what beels said (maybe 3 weeks is enough for the aroma hops to drop out?)
hint of hot alcohol
strangely enough this beer became less interesting as it warmed.  aroma receded, bitterness became softer, mouthfeel became spongy - overall, became quite similar to ranger IIPA
respectable IIPA with an interesting twist (sweetness) but not mind-blowing
glad that i only bought a single, and instead of a full pack and instead of a full pack i got 2 packs of Founders Breakfast Stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 16, 2014, 11:07:42 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 04:25:32 pm
Don't most people have growlers already?

I don't.  Should I?

Living in MD is such a buzzkill.  That Perfect Pour Valentine's Day line up would have been a good way to get introduced to Growlers.  Not sure anywhere else around here makes it worthwhile.  Most of the shops I go to in DC don't sell them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 16, 2014, 12:02:23 pm
Try this growler offer from Whole Foods P Street. $8 gets you the 32 oz growler and up to $10 worth of beer. About 2/3 of the way down the page.

http://realdeal.washingtoncitypaper.com/deals/all/3



Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 16, 2014, 11:07:42 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 04:25:32 pm
Don't most people have growlers already?

I don't.  Should I?

Living in MD is such a buzzkill.  That Perfect Pour Valentine's Day line up would have been a good way to get introduced to Growlers.  Not sure anywhere else around here makes it worthwhile.  Most of the shops I go to in DC don't sell them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 16, 2014, 01:18:59 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 16, 2014, 11:07:42 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 14, 2014, 04:25:32 pm
Don't most people have growlers already?

I don't.  Should I?

Living in MD is such a buzzkill.  That Perfect Pour Valentine's Day line up would have been a good way to get introduced to Growlers.  Not sure anywhere else around here makes it worthwhile.  Most of the shops I go to in DC don't sell them.

I guess it depends on your style of drinking. If you're purchasing a growler be ready to drink 64oz of beer within a day or two or have a few friends over to drink it all with you.

Regarding MD, yes, the laws are quite lame. Cool places like Perfect Pour will actually trade you one of their growlers for whatever growler you bring in, but unfortunately most places in MD make you purchase a growler from them unlike in DC (and most places in general) you can bring a growler in from anywhere for a refill.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 16, 2014, 03:15:40 pm
I never use my 64 oz growlers anymore. Only 32 oz growlers from here on out.

And I only get something in a growler if it's either a fantastic buy or a limited draft only release.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 16, 2014, 06:05:35 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 16, 2014, 03:15:40 pm
I never use my 64 oz growlers anymore. Only 32 oz growlers from here on out.

And I only get something in a growler if it's either a fantastic buy or a limited draft only release.

I average two growlers a year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 16, 2014, 06:07:49 pm
We're splitting a 32 oz growler o Nugget Nectar tonight. Price: $5.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 16, 2014, 06:08:37 pm
In in the vein of continuing Julian's beer knowledge: what the hell is a growler?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 16, 2014, 06:31:09 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 16, 2014, 06:07:49 pm
We're splitting a 32 oz growler o Nugget Nectar tonight. Price: $5.

I'm a tad concerned regarding your consumption this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 16, 2014, 06:40:55 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 16, 2014, 06:08:37 pm
In in the vein of continuing Julian's beer knowledge: what the hell is a growler?

A big jug where you can get draft beer poured into with usually a screw on cap.  Basically a way to get 64 oz of draft beer to take home with you to drink at your convenience.  I don't know why people are complaining about Maryland laws.  Because all the liquor stores around here will sell you growlers full of beer and so do the breweries.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 16, 2014, 07:24:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 16, 2014, 06:40:55 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 16, 2014, 06:08:37 pm
In in the vein of continuing Julian's beer knowledge: what the hell is a growler?

A big jug where you can get draft beer poured into with usually a screw on cap.  Basically a way to get 64 oz of draft beer to take home with you to drink at your convenience.  I don't know why people are complaining about Maryland laws.  Because all the liquor stores around here will sell you growlers full of beer and so do the breweries.
so would I bring my own jug thing or do they rent it to me?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 16, 2014, 08:11:11 pm
You buy the jug and reuse. I imagine you can get one at Whole Foods in Richmond.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 16, 2014, 07:24:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 16, 2014, 06:40:55 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 16, 2014, 06:08:37 pm
In in the vein of continuing Julian's beer knowledge: what the hell is a growler?

A big jug where you can get draft beer poured into with usually a screw on cap.  Basically a way to get 64 oz of draft beer to take home with you to drink at your convenience.  I don't know why people are complaining about Maryland laws.  Because all the liquor stores around here will sell you growlers full of beer and so do the breweries.
so would I bring my own jug thing or do they rent it to me?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 16, 2014, 09:08:07 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 16, 2014, 08:11:11 pm
You buy the jug and reuse. I imagine you can get one at Whole Foods in Richmond.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 16, 2014, 07:24:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 16, 2014, 06:40:55 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 16, 2014, 06:08:37 pm
In in the vein of continuing Julian's beer knowledge: what the hell is a growler?

A big jug where you can get draft beer poured into with usually a screw on cap.  Basically a way to get 64 oz of draft beer to take home with you to drink at your convenience.  I don't know why people are complaining about Maryland laws.  Because all the liquor stores around here will sell you growlers full of beer and so do the breweries.
so would I bring my own jug thing or do they rent it to me?
Dear Lord, I don't wonder to that hippie part of town off on the west end!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on February 16, 2014, 09:16:28 pm
I got a growler yesterday of DC Brau's new DIPA Solar Abyss. It's really good and very well balanced for 10% alcohol. I hope they still have some next weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 17, 2014, 12:39:58 am
Quote from: James Ford on February 16, 2014, 08:11:11 pm
You buy the jug and reuse. I imagine you can get one at Whole Foods in Richmond.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 16, 2014, 07:24:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on February 16, 2014, 06:40:55 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 16, 2014, 06:08:37 pm
In in the vein of continuing Julian's beer knowledge: what the hell is a growler?

A big jug where you can get draft beer poured into with usually a screw on cap.  Basically a way to get 64 oz of draft beer to take home with you to drink at your convenience.  I don't know why people are complaining about Maryland laws.  Because all the liquor stores around here will sell you growlers full of beer and so do the breweries.
so would I bring my own jug thing or do they rent it to me?

You are like a walking advertisement for Whole Foods.  Perhaps that is why you don't have money for a car.  Store that charges 20+ percent more for the same item as every other grocery store in the area.  Plus the stores are way too small.   I can only imagine how awkward getting growlers filled at a Whole Foods would be.   They do have a decent cheese selection which I would say is their one redeeming quality.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: radley17 on February 17, 2014, 09:57:59 pm
Just moved from DC to Alexandria, where are the best(wide selection,not crazy pricey) stores to buy "good" beer? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 17, 2014, 10:44:37 pm
Total Wine and Whole Foods. I can't think of anything else. Rick's used to be good, but they closed.

Quote from: radley17 on February 17, 2014, 09:57:59 pm
Just moved from DC to Alexandria, where are the best(wide selection,not crazy pricey) stores to buy "good" beer? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 19, 2014, 12:24:25 pm
The internetz says Unwined.  Never been there.  Looks spendy.
http://www.unwinedva.com/beer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: radley17 on February 19, 2014, 11:57:22 pm
Thanks for the recommendations. I hit up Total Wine and was pretty stoked about the selection and prices, plus I found a Thai restaurant nearby that was pretty good called Rice and Spice. Unwined is pretty close to me so I will have to give it a look at some point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 20, 2014, 11:37:17 am
Anybody try DC Brau's Solar Abyss yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 20, 2014, 12:06:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on February 20, 2014, 11:37:17 am
Anybody try DC Brau's Solar Abyss yet?
its good. On tap at Broad Branch Market  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 20, 2014, 09:30:21 pm
Drinking Konig Pilsner and guess what? Not hoppie at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 20, 2014, 09:32:42 pm
Sour extravaganza at ChurchKey:

Wednesday, February 26th, 2014 brings the ninth edition in our series!

For this occasion, we will be tapping a hyper-rare keg from inimitable Brasserie Cantillon: Fou? Foune! This exceptional beauty is a blend of Cantillon-brewed lambics aged 2 years in oak barrels with Bergeron apricots.

We also got our hands on a Zymatore series brew, matured and soured in the USA by B. United Imports: Birra Del Borgo 25 Dodici aged in Ransom Gin and Pinot Noir barrels.

Other offerings for this session: a new brew from LoverBeer called Baciami Lipsia (an Italian sour ale inoculated with Lactobacillus & brewed with Himalayan pink salt) & Beer Brugna (a Flanders Red Ale brewed with Damaschine plums); Sante Adairius & Evil Twin Joey Pepper (a Belgian blond ale brewed with white peppercorns & spiked with Brettanomyces clausenii) & Evil Twin Femme Fatale Yuzu (a 100% Brettanomyces-fermented IPA with yuzu fruit); from England, The Wild Beer Co has sent us a keg of Modus Operandi (a Flanders Red Ale aged in bourbon barrels with Brettanomyces).

We will also have some now classic German tart brews: Bayerischer Bahnhof Leipziger Gose, 1809 Berliner Weisse from Professor Fritz Briem, and Original Ritterguts Gose.

There is no admission fee for this event and all Sour Session drafts will be priced individually in 4 oz. tasters and full glass pours.

The Sour Session Volume 9 Draft List:

Cantillon Fou? Foune
Evil Twin Femme Fatale Yuzu
Sante Adairius & Evil Twin Joey Pepper
Original Ritterguts Gose
oveBeer Beer Brugna
LoverBeer Baciami Lipsia
LoverBeer Madamin
The Bruery Sour in the Rye
The Bruery Saison de Lente
Goose Island Lolita
Bayerischer Bahnhof Leipziger Gose
Bayerischer Bahnhof Pineus
Professor Fritz Briem 1809 Berliner Weisse
Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes Abbaye de St. Bon-Chien 2012
Hitachino Nest Anbai Gose
Birra del Borgo Rubus-Lamponi
Birra del Borgo 25 Dodici Zymatore
The Wild Beer Co. Modus Operandi
Jolly Pumpkin Noel de Calabaza
Jolly Pumpkin Madrugada Obscura
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 20, 2014, 09:38:40 pm
Wow, pretty pathetic:

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/Blog/2014/02/19/MillerCoors-introduces-69-percent-Miller-Fortune-beer-to-appeal-to-millennials/6781392828136/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on February 20, 2014, 10:47:20 pm
Drinking some Schwabenbraeu VolksfestBier.   Good Marzen style beer. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 03, 2014, 03:54:26 pm
Had the Austrian Beer Kapsreiter LandBier.  This stuff is truly heaven on earth.   Its a Pilsner.  James Ford might like it as it is sold in a resealable bottle so he won't have to drink it all at once.

Drank some Fat Tire Spring Blonde which was rather tasty.

And then drank some Flying Dog Lucky SOB a decent Irish Red Ale. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 03, 2014, 03:59:29 pm
I had a vodka soda with a lemon twist followed by two more soda waters with lemon twists. It was delightful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 03, 2014, 05:27:09 pm
Is your continued referring to New Belgium Brewing as "Fat Tire" designed to be funny, or to demonstrate your ignorance?

Do you also refer to Union Craft as "Duckpin", or Heavy Seas as "Loose Cannon"?

Quote from: atomic on March 03, 2014, 03:54:26 pm
Had the Austrian Beer Kapsreiter LandBier.  This stuff is truly heaven on earth.   Its a Pilsner.  James Ford might like it as it is sold in a resealable bottle so he won't have to drink it all at once.

Drank some Fat Tire Spring Blonde which was rather tasty.

And then drank some Flying Dog Lucky SOB a decent Irish Red Ale. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 05:37:35 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 03, 2014, 05:27:09 pm
Is your continued referring to New Belgium Brewing as "Fat Tire" designed to be funny, or to demonstrate your ignorance?

Do you also refer to Union Craft as "Duckpin", or Heavy Seas as "Loose Cannon"?

Quote from: atomic on March 03, 2014, 03:54:26 pm
Had the Austrian Beer Kapsreiter LandBier.  This stuff is truly heaven on earth.   Its a Pilsner.  James Ford might like it as it is sold in a resealable bottle so he won't have to drink it all at once.

Drank some Fat Tire Spring Blonde which was rather tasty.

And then drank some Flying Dog Lucky SOB a decent Irish Red Ale. 

When will everyone realize atomic doesn't know what he's talking about in basically every thread?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 03, 2014, 05:42:01 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 03, 2014, 05:27:09 pm
Is your continued referring to New Belgium Brewing as "Fat Tire" designed to be funny, or to demonstrate your ignorance?

Do you also refer to Union Craft as "Duckpin", or Heavy Seas as "Loose Cannon"?

Quote from: atomic on March 03, 2014, 03:54:26 pm
Had the Austrian Beer Kapsreiter LandBier.  This stuff is truly heaven on earth.   Its a Pilsner.  James Ford might like it as it is sold in a resealable bottle so he won't have to drink it all at once.

Drank some Fat Tire Spring Blonde which was rather tasty.

And then drank some Flying Dog Lucky SOB a decent Irish Red Ale. 

Neither a simple mistake.  Do you ever actually discuss beer?  I talk about all the beers I drink and you never once say oh I had that too and enjoyed it with some crabs. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 03, 2014, 05:55:31 pm
I have not had that beer. If I see it, maybe I'll check it out.

I did have an awesome German beer last week. It was a gose.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/7715/11218/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 03, 2014, 06:02:41 pm
Splitting a bomber of Three Floyds Arctic Panzer Wolf tonight. Pairing with the chili I'm prepping now. 11 oz of 9% DIPA, living on the edge man.

Listening to Gil Scott-Heron as I make the food. Good times.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 03, 2014, 06:47:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 03, 2014, 05:55:31 pm
I have not had that beer. If I see it, maybe I'll check it out.

I did have an awesome German beer last week. It was a gose.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/7715/11218/

Gose sounds interesting.  I will have to see if my local store carries it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 03, 2014, 06:55:59 pm
Let me know if you find anything.

They had some  gose beers (from American breweries if I recall) on draft at Max's sour day of the Belgian beer fest and at a sour event at Churchkey (from German breweries), both of which I attended. However, i'm not familiar with any sold regionally in bottles.

And when they call it a "sour", it's all relative. It's a lot less sour than some of those Belgian pucker beers.


Quote from: atomic on March 03, 2014, 06:47:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 03, 2014, 05:55:31 pm
I have not had that beer. If I see it, maybe I'll check it out.

I did have an awesome German beer last week. It was a gose.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/7715/11218/

Gose sounds interesting.  I will have to see if my local store carries it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 08, 2014, 07:11:30 pm
I sampled  DIPA at Trader Joes today. One taste and my thought was "Worst DIPA I've ever tasted."

Reviews seem the confirm this:

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/435/75509/

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/minhas-imperial-jack-double-ipa/153028/

random sample review:


Pour out of 22 oz bottle, clear orange pour with white head, aroma brought notes of cardboard, metal, some rotten veggie, acetone, butter, you name it it had it, this almost me gag even smelling it. Taste is foul, some cardboard, acetone, garbage juice and veggie with a side of butter, I dumped out about 99% of this bottle. Terrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience returns to the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C. May 9-10, 2014!

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 12, 2014, 01:28:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 11, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience returns to the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C. May 9-10, 2014!

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/

i had so much fun at savor 2012. threw up like crazy midway through the event. good times.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 16, 2014, 03:51:45 pm
somebody shoot this woman

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/who-owns-the-right-to-the-schlafly-name/article_7d33e934-03e3-530a-86e7-f4c7a3bcffd8.html?mode=comments

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 16, 2014, 04:01:18 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 16, 2014, 03:51:45 pm
somebody shoot this woman

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/who-owns-the-right-to-the-schlafly-name/article_7d33e934-03e3-530a-86e7-f4c7a3bcffd8.html?mode=comments



to read the article: http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/who-owns-the-right-to-the-schlafly-name/article_7d33e934-03e3-530a-86e7-f4c7a3bcffd8.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2014, 11:24:10 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 12, 2014, 01:28:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 11, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience returns to the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C. May 9-10, 2014!

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/

i had so much fun at savor 2012. threw up like crazy midway through the event. good times.

jez @ $135 I hope you went in that toilet and savored that again
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 17, 2014, 01:00:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on March 17, 2014, 11:24:10 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 12, 2014, 01:28:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 11, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience returns to the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C. May 9-10, 2014!

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/

i had so much fun at savor 2012. threw up like crazy midway through the event. good times.

jez @ $135 I hope you went in that toilet and savored that again

it's called making room and getting your moneys worth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2014, 01:18:30 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 17, 2014, 01:00:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on March 17, 2014, 11:24:10 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 12, 2014, 01:28:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 11, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience returns to the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C. May 9-10, 2014!

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/

i had so much fun at savor 2012. threw up like crazy midway through the event. good times.

jez @ $135 I hope you went in that toilet and savored that again

it's called making room and getting your moneys worth.

I do remember a pie eating contest in the 80s where I lost to a guy. He puked up mid contest into the pie tin...then proceeded to eat it all up and crush (and gross out) the competition. Was that you stevewizzle?

wait were we talking about beer? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2014, 01:25:33 pm
I finally tried Orange Whip this weekend, can't say I was all too impressed...

Also, quite excited to have Flower Power distributed locally now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2014, 01:28:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2014, 01:25:33 pm
I finally tried Orange Whip this weekend, can't say I was all too impressed...

Also, quite excited to have Flower Power distributed locally now.

sorry for sullying the sacred beer thread all day, but one of my favorite scenes in the BB
orange whip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oOv3cuP8M4)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 17, 2014, 01:32:09 pm
Stevewizzle was still pooping his diapers in the 80s.

Quote from: Sidehatch on March 17, 2014, 01:18:30 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 17, 2014, 01:00:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on March 17, 2014, 11:24:10 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 12, 2014, 01:28:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 11, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience returns to the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C. May 9-10, 2014!

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/

i had so much fun at savor 2012. threw up like crazy midway through the event. good times.

jez @ $135 I hope you went in that toilet and savored that again

it's called making room and getting your moneys worth.

I do remember a pie eating contest in the 80s where I lost to a guy. He puked up mid contest into the pie tin...then proceeded to eat it all up and crush (and gross out) the competition. Was that you stevewizzle?

wait were we talking about beer? 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 17, 2014, 01:32:33 pm
Agreed on both.

Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2014, 01:25:33 pm
I finally tried Orange Whip this weekend, can't say I was all too impressed...

Also, quite excited to have Flower Power distributed locally now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 17, 2014, 07:53:02 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 17, 2014, 01:32:09 pm
Stevewizzle was still pooping his diapers in the 80s.

Quote from: Sidehatch on March 17, 2014, 01:18:30 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 17, 2014, 01:00:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on March 17, 2014, 11:24:10 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 12, 2014, 01:28:49 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 11, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience returns to the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C. May 9-10, 2014!

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/

i had so much fun at savor 2012. threw up like crazy midway through the event. good times.

jez @ $135 I hope you went in that toilet and savored that again

it's called making room and getting your moneys worth.

I do remember a pie eating contest in the 80s where I lost to a guy. He puked up mid contest into the pie tin...then proceeded to eat it all up and crush (and gross out) the competition. Was that you stevewizzle?

wait were we talking about beer? 


 to be fair, what he describes isn't far off from a 3 year olds behavior.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 17, 2014, 08:01:29 pm
i went to hard liver fest on saturday.  i tried many barleywines, and enjoyed them all.  my liver still hurts. here's a list of the barleywines i had, and what i thought, in order of most to least favorite:

firestone walker 2013 sucaba - it's just so damn smooth. i had to resist my temptation to go out and buy a whole case of this after tasting it...
anchorage brewing deal with the devil - the winner of the show, and rightfully so. i swear the advertised 17.5% abv is a lie.
midnight sun arctic devil - like sucaba, but a year younger and a little bit more heat.  it's damn good.
lost abby angel's share grand cru - i'm not sure i totally remember what this was... a blend of 4 or 5 different angel's share variants i believe. it was unreal in the taste category, but as it warmed up, it wasn't quite as enjoyable.
black raven 2012 birdbrain - not usually a big fan of american barleywines, but this was excellent.
deschutes 2009 mirror mirror - was good, maybe a little past it's prime though.
alaskan 2012 big nugget - happy i tried it but wouldn't order it again
pike 2012 old bawdy - same as above... happy to have tried it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 17, 2014, 08:24:14 pm
What were the prices and pour sizes at the Hard Liver Fest?

My brother never went because he claimed the prices were ridiculously high and he'd "rather just sit at home and drink Bigfoot".

Does it surprise anyone that I have a brother who would make that claim?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 18, 2014, 01:18:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 17, 2014, 08:24:14 pm
What were the prices and pour sizes at the Hard Liver Fest?

My brother never went because he claimed the prices were ridiculously high and he'd "rather just sit at home and drink Bigfoot".

Does it surprise anyone that I have a brother who would make that claim?

honestly, i'm not sure i remember exactly. i >think< most tasters were $1 per ounce.  it was a flat rate scheme... like, $3 for 3oz, $5 for 6oz. with a few exceptions (lost abbey, anchorage). someone did the math on deal with the devil and figured it was $1.66 per ounce, and for a bottle it's $1.12 from the brewery.  50 cents mark-up isn't bad.

i don't think you really need to get into the pricing logistics when it comes down to the fact that you can taste 8 barleywines for under $30 total... 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 08:34:19 am
That doesn't sound bad. I'da hit it if I didn't live 2,771 miles away.

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 18, 2014, 01:18:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 17, 2014, 08:24:14 pm
What were the prices and pour sizes at the Hard Liver Fest?

My brother never went because he claimed the prices were ridiculously high and he'd "rather just sit at home and drink Bigfoot".

Does it surprise anyone that I have a brother who would make that claim?

honestly, i'm not sure i remember exactly. i >think< most tasters were $1 per ounce.  it was a flat rate scheme... like, $3 for 3oz, $5 for 6oz. with a few exceptions (lost abbey, anchorage). someone did the math on deal with the devil and figured it was $1.66 per ounce, and for a bottle it's $1.12 from the brewery.  50 cents mark-up isn't bad.

i don't think you really need to get into the pricing logistics when it comes down to the fact that you can taste 8 barleywines for under $30 total... 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2014, 11:55:27 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 17, 2014, 08:01:29 pm
firestone walker 2013 sucaba - it's just so damn smooth. i had to resist my temptation to go out and buy a whole case of this after tasting it...

is that an option for you folks?!?  over here we haven't received this year's batch, and when it does show up there will inevitably be a 1-bottle-per-customer limit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 12:40:21 pm
64 ounces, is a lot, of drinks of beer.

Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 18, 2014, 12:46:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 08:34:19 am
That doesn't sound bad. I'da hit it if I didn't live 2,771 miles away.

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 18, 2014, 01:18:01 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 17, 2014, 08:24:14 pm
What were the prices and pour sizes at the Hard Liver Fest?

My brother never went because he claimed the prices were ridiculously high and he'd "rather just sit at home and drink Bigfoot".

Does it surprise anyone that I have a brother who would make that claim?


excuses
honestly, i'm not sure i remember exactly. i >think< most tasters were $1 per ounce.  it was a flat rate scheme... like, $3 for 3oz, $5 for 6oz. with a few exceptions (lost abbey, anchorage). someone did the math on deal with the devil and figured it was $1.66 per ounce, and for a bottle it's $1.12 from the brewery.  50 cents mark-up isn't bad.

i don't think you really need to get into the pricing logistics when it comes down to the fact that you can taste 8 barleywines for under $30 total... 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 18, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.

stay strong sister.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 18, 2014, 12:52:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 18, 2014, 11:55:27 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 17, 2014, 08:01:29 pm
firestone walker 2013 sucaba - it's just so damn smooth. i had to resist my temptation to go out and buy a whole case of this after tasting it...

is that an option for you folks?!?  over here we haven't received this year's batch, and when it does show up there will inevitably be a 1-bottle-per-customer limit.

mmhm (the 2014, that is).  been on the shelves for weeks now.  some places get 1 or 2 cases and they are gone quick, but then places like whole foods gets seemingly a pallet of it and it just sits on the shelf and collects dust. there's also a gas station i stop in every now and then that still has a shelf of DBA and velvet merkin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 18, 2014, 01:25:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.

stay strong sister.

i am . . . growlers always bothered me because of having to drink them day of purchase.  but nugget nectar on draft is always great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 18, 2014, 01:46:02 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 01:25:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.

stay strong sister.

i am . . . growlers always bothered me because of having to drink them day of purchase.  but nugget nectar on draft is always great.


You don't have to drink them the day of purchase.  If you seal back up tight it should be fine for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 01:50:22 pm
Once you open it you need to drink it all ASAP.

And in terms of saving it beyond the day of purchase (without opening), I've found that  flip tops are better than screw tops.


Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 01:46:02 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 01:25:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.

stay strong sister.

i am . . . growlers always bothered me because of having to drink them day of purchase.  but nugget nectar on draft is always great.


You don't have to drink them the day of purchase.  If you seal back up tight it should be fine for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 18, 2014, 01:54:11 pm
Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 01:46:02 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 01:25:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.

stay strong sister.

i am . . . growlers always bothered me because of having to drink them day of purchase.  but nugget nectar on draft is always great.


You don't have to drink them the day of purchase.  If you seal back up tight it should be fine for a couple of weeks.

yeah that's simply not true
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 18, 2014, 01:57:58 pm
Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 01:46:02 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 01:25:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.

stay strong sister.

i am . . . growlers always bothered me because of having to drink them day of purchase.  but nugget nectar on draft is always great.


You don't have to drink them the day of purchase.  If you seal back up tight it should be fine for a couple of weeks.

We've had this argument on here before and you have no clue what you're talking about. It will taste like garbage in 72 hours or so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:03:35 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 01:50:22 pm
Once you open it you need to drink it all ASAP.

And in terms of saving it beyond the day of purchase (without opening), I've found that  flip tops are better than screw tops.


Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 01:46:02 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 01:25:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.

I think we have had this discussion before.  Of course you don't need to drink it the day you open it. It was open when you poured it in.  Open it pour your glass and then close it you won't have any problem.
stay strong sister.

i am . . . growlers always bothered me because of having to drink them day of purchase.  but nugget nectar on draft is always great.




You don't have to drink them the day of purchase.  If you seal back up tight it should be fine for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:04:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 01:57:58 pm
Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 01:46:02 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 01:25:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.

stay strong sister.

i am . . . growlers always bothered me because of having to drink them day of purchase.  but nugget nectar on draft is always great.


You don't have to drink them the day of purchase.  If you seal back up tight it should be fine for a couple of weeks.

We've had this argument on here before and you have no clue what you're talking about. It will taste like garbage in 72 hours or so.

Not true at all.  I do have a clue as I have done it multiple times with no problems.  You have no clue as you probably got shitty beer to begin with. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Baltimore, MD, March 17, 2014 ? Union Craft Brewing Company today announced the release of its third addition to its canned beer line. Blackwing Lager, a German-style Schwarzbier, is a light-bodied yet dark and full-flavored lager beer. This third installment in its canned beer lineup joins the already popular Duckpin Pale Ale and award-winning Balt Altbier. Blackwing will be shipping to Maryland & DC area retailers next week. Additionally, the brewing company has acquired three new 60 barrel fermentation tanks, increasing brewing capacity by 65% and has signed a lease on an additional 3,000 sq ft unit adjacent to the current brewery space
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 18, 2014, 02:17:38 pm
Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:04:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 01:57:58 pm
Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 01:46:02 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 01:25:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 18, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
considering breaking form, and having a drink of beer.  local shoppe, in my area offering ten dollar, full growlers of nugget nectar.

stay strong sister.

i am . . . growlers always bothered me because of having to drink them day of purchase.  but nugget nectar on draft is always great.


You don't have to drink them the day of purchase.  If you seal back up tight it should be fine for a couple of weeks.

We've had this argument on here before and you have no clue what you're talking about. It will taste like garbage in 72 hours or so.

Not true at all.  I do have a clue as I have done it multiple times with no problems.  You have no clue as you probably got shitty beer to begin with. 

decent post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 18, 2014, 02:25:33 pm
how about a 2 liter of soda that you open, atomic? do those magically stay carbonated and taste great weeks after opening, too?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:32:09 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 18, 2014, 02:25:33 pm
how about a 2 liter of soda that you open, atomic? do those magically stay carbonated and taste great weeks after opening, too?

No soda does not stay good for 2 weeks after opening.  But I don't drink soda it is bad for you.  I am also guessing if you poor soda straight from the fountain and put it in a growler and opened it in a couple of days it wouldn't be very good.   I drink carbonated water and it is fine a week after opening it if closed pretty quickly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Let me know if they ever get around to canning their Double Duckpin beer. I'd pay good money for that beer. The rest of their beers, decent but ultimately "meh".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Baltimore, MD, March 17, 2014 ? Union Craft Brewing Company today announced the release of its third addition to its canned beer line. Blackwing Lager, a German-style Schwarzbier, is a light-bodied yet dark and full-flavored lager beer. This third installment in its canned beer lineup joins the already popular Duckpin Pale Ale and award-winning Balt Altbier. Blackwing will be shipping to Maryland & DC area retailers next week. Additionally, the brewing company has acquired three new 60 barrel fermentation tanks, increasing brewing capacity by 65% and has signed a lease on an additional 3,000 sq ft unit adjacent to the current brewery space
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 18, 2014, 04:09:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Let me know if they ever get around to canning their Double Duckpin beer. I'd pay good money for that beer. The rest of their beers, decent but ultimately "meh".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Baltimore, MD, March 17, 2014 ? Union Craft Brewing Company today announced the release of its third addition to its canned beer line. Blackwing Lager, a German-style Schwarzbier, is a light-bodied yet dark and full-flavored lager beer. This third installment in its canned beer lineup joins the already popular Duckpin Pale Ale and award-winning Balt Altbier. Blackwing will be shipping to Maryland & DC area retailers next week. Additionally, the brewing company has acquired three new 60 barrel fermentation tanks, increasing brewing capacity by 65% and has signed a lease on an additional 3,000 sq ft unit adjacent to the current brewery space

I am sure Double Duckpin is awful.  I love their Blackwing Lager so I am happy that it is coming out.  I feel that they are by far the best brewer within MD/VA/DC/DE area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 05:34:58 pm
I am sure you are just trying to be contrary.

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 04:09:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Let me know if they ever get around to canning their Double Duckpin beer. I'd pay good money for that beer. The rest of their beers, decent but ultimately "meh".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Baltimore, MD, March 17, 2014 ? Union Craft Brewing Company today announced the release of its third addition to its canned beer line. Blackwing Lager, a German-style Schwarzbier, is a light-bodied yet dark and full-flavored lager beer. This third installment in its canned beer lineup joins the already popular Duckpin Pale Ale and award-winning Balt Altbier. Blackwing will be shipping to Maryland & DC area retailers next week. Additionally, the brewing company has acquired three new 60 barrel fermentation tanks, increasing brewing capacity by 65% and has signed a lease on an additional 3,000 sq ft unit adjacent to the current brewery space

I am sure Double Duckpin is awful.  I love their Blackwing Lager so I am happy that it is coming out.  I feel that they are by far the best brewer within MD/VA/DC/DE area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 18, 2014, 08:20:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 05:34:58 pm
I am sure you are just trying to be contrary.

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 04:09:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Let me know if they ever get around to canning their Double Duckpin beer. I'd pay good money for that beer. The rest of their beers, decent but ultimately "meh".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Baltimore, MD, March 17, 2014 ? Union Craft Brewing Company today announced the release of its third addition to its canned beer line. Blackwing Lager, a German-style Schwarzbier, is a light-bodied yet dark and full-flavored lager beer. This third installment in its canned beer lineup joins the already popular Duckpin Pale Ale and award-winning Balt Altbier. Blackwing will be shipping to Maryland & DC area retailers next week. Additionally, the brewing company has acquired three new 60 barrel fermentation tanks, increasing brewing capacity by 65% and has signed a lease on an additional 3,000 sq ft unit adjacent to the current brewery space

I am sure Double Duckpin is awful.  I love their Blackwing Lager so I am happy that it is coming out.  I feel that they are by far the best brewer within MD/VA/DC/DE area.

Contrary?  Union Craft is a German Style brewer.  So it makes sense that I like them. Don't like Duckpin Ale though. I am guessing they just put that out their to attract the beer novices.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 08:52:30 pm
According to this

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29377/

they've brewed 22 beers. I count six that are German style. Nine are pale ales or IPA's. The other seven are an assortment of non-German styles. That hardly makes them a "German style brewer".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 08:20:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 05:34:58 pm
I am sure you are just trying to be contrary.

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 04:09:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Let me know if they ever get around to canning their Double Duckpin beer. I'd pay good money for that beer. The rest of their beers, decent but ultimately "meh".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Baltimore, MD, March 17, 2014 ? Union Craft Brewing Company today announced the release of its third addition to its canned beer line. Blackwing Lager, a German-style Schwarzbier, is a light-bodied yet dark and full-flavored lager beer. This third installment in its canned beer lineup joins the already popular Duckpin Pale Ale and award-winning Balt Altbier. Blackwing will be shipping to Maryland & DC area retailers next week. Additionally, the brewing company has acquired three new 60 barrel fermentation tanks, increasing brewing capacity by 65% and has signed a lease on an additional 3,000 sq ft unit adjacent to the current brewery space

I am sure Double Duckpin is awful.  I love their Blackwing Lager so I am happy that it is coming out.  I feel that they are by far the best brewer within MD/VA/DC/DE area.

Contrary?  Union Craft is a German Style brewer.  So it makes sense that I like them. Don't like Duckpin Ale though. I am guessing they just put that out their to attract the beer novices.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 18, 2014, 10:58:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 08:52:30 pm
According to this

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29377/

they've brewed 22 beers. I count six that are German style. Nine are pale ales or IPA's. The other seven are an assortment of non-German styles. That hardly makes them a "German style brewer".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 08:20:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 05:34:58 pm
I am sure you are just trying to be contrary.

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 04:09:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Let me know if they ever get around to canning their Double Duckpin beer. I'd pay good money for that beer. The rest of their beers, decent but ultimately "meh".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Baltimore, MD, March 17, 2014 ? Union Craft Brewing Company today announced the release of its third addition to its canned beer line. Blackwing Lager, a German-style Schwarzbier, is a light-bodied yet dark and full-flavored lager beer. This third installment in its canned beer lineup joins the already popular Duckpin Pale Ale and award-winning Balt Altbier. Blackwing will be shipping to Maryland & DC area retailers next week. Additionally, the brewing company has acquired three new 60 barrel fermentation tanks, increasing brewing capacity by 65% and has signed a lease on an additional 3,000 sq ft unit adjacent to the current brewery space

I am sure Double Duckpin is awful.  I love their Blackwing Lager so I am happy that it is coming out.  I feel that they are by far the best brewer within MD/VA/DC/DE area.

Contrary?  Union Craft is a German Style brewer.  So it makes sense that I like them. Don't like Duckpin Ale though. I am guessing they just put that out their to attract the beer novices.

Well I am sure Beer Advocate knows everything.  I am guessing you should stop licking Beer Advocates dirty ass and go to the brewery and take a tour and talk to the brewer.  Maybe you would actually learn something.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 19, 2014, 08:11:52 am
I have been to the brewery. Twice. Both times, the majority of beers they had on draft for free sampling were non-German. Though they do more German style beers than your typical American craft brewery (6/22=27.2%).

Their original flagship beer, Duckpin Ale, is an American pale ale (their second flagship beer, the altbier, is a German style),

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 10:58:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 08:52:30 pm
According to this

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29377/

they've brewed 22 beers. I count six that are German style. Nine are pale ales or IPA's. The other seven are an assortment of non-German styles. That hardly makes them a "German style brewer".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 08:20:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 05:34:58 pm
I am sure you are just trying to be contrary.

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 04:09:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Let me know if they ever get around to canning their Double Duckpin beer. I'd pay good money for that beer. The rest of their beers, decent but ultimately "meh".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Baltimore, MD, March 17, 2014 ? Union Craft Brewing Company today announced the release of its third addition to its canned beer line. Blackwing Lager, a German-style Schwarzbier, is a light-bodied yet dark and full-flavored lager beer. This third installment in its canned beer lineup joins the already popular Duckpin Pale Ale and award-winning Balt Altbier. Blackwing will be shipping to Maryland & DC area retailers next week. Additionally, the brewing company has acquired three new 60 barrel fermentation tanks, increasing brewing capacity by 65% and has signed a lease on an additional 3,000 sq ft unit adjacent to the current brewery space

I am sure Double Duckpin is awful.  I love their Blackwing Lager so I am happy that it is coming out.  I feel that they are by far the best brewer within MD/VA/DC/DE area.

Contrary?  Union Craft is a German Style brewer.  So it makes sense that I like them. Don't like Duckpin Ale though. I am guessing they just put that out their to attract the beer novices.

Well I am sure Beer Advocate knows everything.  I am guessing you should stop licking Beer Advocates dirty ass and go to the brewery and take a tour and talk to the brewer.  Maybe you would actually learn something.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 19, 2014, 09:52:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 19, 2014, 08:11:52 am
I have been to the brewery. Twice. Both times, the majority of beers they had on draft for free sampling were non-German. Though they do more German style beers than your typical American craft brewery (6/22=27.2%).

Their original flagship beer, Duckpin Ale, is an American pale ale (their second flagship beer, the altbier, is a German style),

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 10:58:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 08:52:30 pm
According to this

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29377/

they've brewed 22 beers. I count six that are German style. Nine are pale ales or IPA's. The other seven are an assortment of non-German styles. That hardly makes them a "German style brewer".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 08:20:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 05:34:58 pm
I am sure you are just trying to be contrary.

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 04:09:17 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 18, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Let me know if they ever get around to canning their Double Duckpin beer. I'd pay good money for that beer. The rest of their beers, decent but ultimately "meh".

Quote from: atomic on March 18, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Baltimore, MD, March 17, 2014 ? Union Craft Brewing Company today announced the release of its third addition to its canned beer line. Blackwing Lager, a German-style Schwarzbier, is a light-bodied yet dark and full-flavored lager beer. This third installment in its canned beer lineup joins the already popular Duckpin Pale Ale and award-winning Balt Altbier. Blackwing will be shipping to Maryland & DC area retailers next week. Additionally, the brewing company has acquired three new 60 barrel fermentation tanks, increasing brewing capacity by 65% and has signed a lease on an additional 3,000 sq ft unit adjacent to the current brewery space

I am sure Double Duckpin is awful.  I love their Blackwing Lager so I am happy that it is coming out.  I feel that they are by far the best brewer within MD/VA/DC/DE area.

Contrary?  Union Craft is a German Style brewer.  So it makes sense that I like them. Don't like Duckpin Ale though. I am guessing they just put that out their to attract the beer novices.

Well I am sure Beer Advocate knows everything.  I am guessing you should stop licking Beer Advocates dirty ass and go to the brewery and take a tour and talk to the brewer.  Maybe you would actually learn something.

Their third is a German style and when I was there there the other beers were German style.  A lot of ingredients are from Germany.  The brewer tells you what German brewing terms mean.  I am sure the Duckpin Ale was created for Beer Novices like yourself to get into the Brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 20, 2014, 12:14:10 am
what a

Quote from: James Ford on March 19, 2014, 08:11:52 am
their second flagship beer, the altbier, is a German style

 bizarre style to make your second flagship beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 20, 2014, 06:52:13 am
So does any style a brewery regularly cans/bottles count as their "flagship beer"? I mean first they did Duckpin, second they canned altbier, andquite a bit later they start canning the black lager. The first two were commonly called the flagship beers (use the google). So they start canning a third and it becomes a "flagship" as well?

Deschutes bottles a handful of beers year round and they call their porter their flagship beer, if I remember correctly.

How many flagships can a brewery have?

BTW, I prefer the altbier and black lager to the pale ale. Though I don't fin them any more challenging to the palate. It's the DOUBLE duckpin i really like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 20, 2014, 09:17:47 am
Just because I was curious:



Ask the Brewers #2: Flagship Beer?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/447/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 20, 2014, 09:21:18 am
this is almost as thrilling, as the tastes great, less filling debate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 20, 2014, 10:19:04 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 20, 2014, 06:52:13 am
So does any style a brewery regularly cans/bottles count as their "flagship beer"? I mean first they did Duckpin, second they canned altbier, andquite a bit later they start canning the black lager. The first two were commonly called the flagship beers (use the google). So they start canning a third and it becomes a "flagship" as well?

Deschutes bottles a handful of beers year round and they call their porter their flagship beer, if I remember correctly.

How many flagships can a brewery have?

BTW, I prefer the altbier and black lager to the pale ale. Though I don't fin them any more challenging to the palate. It's the DOUBLE duckpin i really like.

Going for your Mcdonalds style beer again. 

Anyway who cares how they label them.  I think anything that they put in a can and is available year round will be a flag-ship beer for them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 20, 2014, 01:07:53 pm
I love this style

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 20, 2014, 12:14:10 am
what a

Quote from: James Ford on March 19, 2014, 08:11:52 am
their second flagship beer, the altbier, is a German style

 bizarre style to make your second flagship beer.

of posting.  Mind if I borrow it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 20, 2014, 05:27:46 pm
go
Quote from: grateful on March 20, 2014, 01:07:53 pm
I love this style

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 20, 2014, 12:14:10 am
what a

Quote from: James Ford on March 19, 2014, 08:11:52 am
their second flagship beer, the altbier, is a German style

 bizarre style to make your second flagship beer.

of posting.  Mind if I borrow it?

for it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 20, 2014, 06:26:28 pm
following a conversation has

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 20, 2014, 05:27:46 pm
go
Quote from: grateful on March 20, 2014, 01:07:53 pm
I love this style

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 20, 2014, 12:14:10 am
what a

Quote from: James Ford on March 19, 2014, 08:11:52 am
their second flagship beer, the altbier, is a German style

 bizarre style to make your second flagship beer.

of posting.  Mind if I borrow it?

for it!

just become a whole lot more complicated.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 24, 2014, 07:54:13 pm
We held our seventh 9:30 bottle share this past weekend. Highlights (at least for me) included de Struise Black Albert, Cascade Sang Noire, and an Upslope/Crooked Stave Collaboration beer.

We also held an interesting blind tasting of six IPA's with nine people tasting.

The results from first to worst were:

1. Fatheads Hop Juju
2. Cigar City Hopped on the High Seas
3. Brew Bus Last Stop IPA
4. DC Brau OTWOA
5. Great Lakes Chillwave
6. Cigar City Jai Alai

Anybody else who was there can chime in...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 25, 2014, 09:55:57 am
the Sang Royale was the highlight for me, the two geuzes (3 Fonteinen and St Louis) were nice too.  that upslope/CS collab had a delicious unique brett character to it.  don't think i've ever tasted anything quite like it.  once again, the sours & wilds were the best things on offer!  i quite enjoyed the Prairie saison.  the Black Albert was good but didn't leave me with much of an impression.  the Even More Jesus was too sweet, hence the missus loved it.  the God Damn Raspberry Pigeon Porter was a let-down, less like raspberries and more like cough syrup.  as we were packing up i noticed that we hadn't finished off the Evolution Rum Barrel Golden Ale, so i did the super-classy thing of swigging from the 750 bottle as i gathered my things.  good times! ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 25, 2014, 10:03:41 am
I'm surprised the St Louis Gueuze

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/st-louis-gueuze/6101/

is so lowly rated compared to the 3 Fonteinen:

 http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/3-fonteinen-oude-geuze/11168/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 25, 2014, 11:41:19 am
ratebeer?  who the hell references THAT site?!? ;)

you were looking at the wrong St. Louis: we had the "Fond Tradition", not their standard gueuze (which is apparently way too sweet).  the Fond Tradition has a much more respectable 94 on RB.

BA scores: 88 vs. 97.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 25, 2014, 11:47:16 am
To me, comparing percentiles within style (ratebeer) has much more meaning than those seemingly arbitrary beer advocate numbers. RB percentile scores 88 vs. 32.

Quote from: sweetcell on March 25, 2014, 11:41:19 am
ratebeer?  who the hell references THAT site?!? ;)

you were looking at the wrong St. Louis: we had the "Fond Tradition", not their standard gueuze (which is apparently way too sweet).  the Fond Tradition has a much more respectable 94 on RB.

BA scores: 88 vs. 97.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 25, 2014, 12:48:40 pm
to me, it seems that you're picking and choosing the rating system that happens to back your argument at any given time ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 25, 2014, 01:58:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 25, 2014, 12:48:40 pm
to me, it seems that you're picking and choosing the rating system that happens to back your argument at any given time ;D


Why do we need a rating system at all.  You either like the beer or not.  No one elses opinion should matter. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 25, 2014, 03:21:21 pm
I know this is hard for you to fathom, but sometimes it's interesting to know the opinions of someone other than yourself.

I can probably count the number of people I know whose opinions I trust on beer on less than three hands. I suppose I could just email them all and ask them what they think about a certain beer and if they've had it and are willing to email me back, I can form some kind judgment call on what other people think of the beer.

Or, I can look at a site like Ratebeer, where 1326 people have rated a beer, and trust that most of them have taste since they went out of their way to find the beer and took the time to write a review.

Quote from: atomic on March 25, 2014, 01:58:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 25, 2014, 12:48:40 pm
to me, it seems that you're picking and choosing the rating system that happens to back your argument at any given time ;D


Why do we need a rating system at all.  You either like the beer or not.  No one elses opinion should matter. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 25, 2014, 06:35:57 pm
Just noticed that there's a Maine Beer Co "Dinner"-their DIPA.  Anyone check it out?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2014, 11:41:58 am
Quote from: Bagley on March 25, 2014, 06:35:57 pm
Just noticed that there's a Maine Beer Co "Dinner"-their DIPA.  Anyone check it out?

i'd be interested in checking it out if available, but the luster on MBC has faded for me.  lunch is an above-average IPA but nothing mind-blowing. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 26, 2014, 08:48:15 pm
Props the Sweetcell for pointing out this fascinating article:

Mikkeller vs. Evil Twin

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/magazine/a-fight-is-brewing.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


And props to my wife, whose reply gets the atomic award:

"Who cares, they both make beers that suck."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 27, 2014, 11:17:10 am
Interesting!  I always assumed they got along...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on March 27, 2014, 12:40:28 pm
An excellent article. I thought they worked together. I would buy more Evil Twin or Mikkeller, but their beers are always so expensive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 26, 2014, 08:48:15 pm
Props the Sweetcell for pointing out this fascinating article:

Mikkeller vs. Evil Twin

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/magazine/a-fight-is-brewing.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


And props to my wife, whose reply gets the atomic award:

"Who cares, they both make beers that suck."

Does your wife read Beer Advocate as well?  I didn't think any women would read that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 02:14:18 pm
No, she does not read Beer Advocate. She came about her love for hoppy IPA's all on her own.

Does your wife read the 9:30 forum?


Quote from: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 26, 2014, 08:48:15 pm
Props the Sweetcell for pointing out this fascinating article:

Mikkeller vs. Evil Twin

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/magazine/a-fight-is-brewing.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


And props to my wife, whose reply gets the atomic award:

"Who cares, they both make beers that suck."

Does your wife read Beer Advocate as well?  I didn't think any women would read that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:18:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 02:14:18 pm
No, she does not read Beer Advocate. She came about her love for hoppy IPA's all on her own.

Does your wife read the 9:30 forum?


Quote from: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 26, 2014, 08:48:15 pm
Props the Sweetcell for pointing out this fascinating article:

Mikkeller vs. Evil Twin

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/magazine/a-fight-is-brewing.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


And props to my wife, whose reply gets the atomic award:

"Who cares, they both make beers that suck."

Does your wife read Beer Advocate as well?  I didn't think any women would read that.

No, why would she?  I am glad your wife doesn't read Beer Advocate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 02:22:02 pm
Do you think she would be amused by the atomic character you play on here?

Quote from: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:18:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 02:14:18 pm
No, she does not read Beer Advocate. She came about her love for hoppy IPA's all on her own.

Does your wife read the 9:30 forum?


Quote from: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 26, 2014, 08:48:15 pm
Props the Sweetcell for pointing out this fascinating article:

Mikkeller vs. Evil Twin

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/magazine/a-fight-is-brewing.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


And props to my wife, whose reply gets the atomic award:

"Who cares, they both make beers that suck."

Does your wife read Beer Advocate as well?  I didn't think any women would read that.

No, why would she?  I am glad your wife doesn't read Beer Advocate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:22:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 02:22:02 pm
Do you think she would be amused by the atomic character you play on here?

Quote from: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:18:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 02:14:18 pm
No, she does not read Beer Advocate. She came about her love for hoppy IPA's all on her own.

Does your wife read the 9:30 forum?


Quote from: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 26, 2014, 08:48:15 pm
Props the Sweetcell for pointing out this fascinating article:

Mikkeller vs. Evil Twin

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/magazine/a-fight-is-brewing.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


And props to my wife, whose reply gets the atomic award:

"Who cares, they both make beers that suck."

Does your wife read Beer Advocate as well?  I didn't think any women would read that.

No, why would she?  I am glad your wife doesn't read Beer Advocate.

Probably not.  Would your wife be amused by your posts on here? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 02:30:23 pm
Some of my best zingers are quotes stolen from her.

Others as ones she wholeheartedly approves of.

Others are ones she thinks make me look like an asshole.

Quote from: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:22:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 02:22:02 pm
Do you think she would be amused by the atomic character you play on here?

Quote from: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:18:56 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 02:14:18 pm
No, she does not read Beer Advocate. She came about her love for hoppy IPA's all on her own.

Does your wife read the 9:30 forum?


Quote from: atomic on March 27, 2014, 02:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 26, 2014, 08:48:15 pm
Props the Sweetcell for pointing out this fascinating article:

Mikkeller vs. Evil Twin

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/magazine/a-fight-is-brewing.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


And props to my wife, whose reply gets the atomic award:

"Who cares, they both make beers that suck."

Does your wife read Beer Advocate as well?  I didn't think any women would read that.

No, why would she?  I am glad your wife doesn't read Beer Advocate.

Probably not.  Would your wife be amused by your posts on here? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 27, 2014, 04:14:59 pm
Ozzy vs. Brewers Art

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/music/midnight-sun-blog/bal-brewers-art-ozzy-osbourne-cease-desist,0,7413324.story

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2014, 04:21:02 pm
they must have known that one was coming some day. 

i assumed until now that Ozzy had given them permission (for a fee) to use that name, label, etc. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 31, 2014, 06:18:07 pm
http://dontdrinkbeer.com/2014/03/22/blind-barrel-aged-barleywine-tasting-results-are-in-god-damn-it/

blind barleywine tasting results
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on March 31, 2014, 06:31:24 pm
I opened a Bolt Cutter over the weekend. Better now than it was fresh, but nothing special. Sucaba might be the best bareleywine I've had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 31, 2014, 08:18:57 pm
Anyone with KBS info for VA or DC feel free to PM it to me!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 31, 2014, 08:20:31 pm
I'd need to do a side by side with BCBSBW, but can't say I disagree. Also sitting on a CEntral WAters BBBW, which is supposed to me top notch.

Really like Great Divide Old Ruffian in terms of American style, non barrel aged.

Quote from: fatskippy on March 31, 2014, 06:31:24 pm
I opened a Bolt Cutter over the weekend. Better now than it was fresh, but nothing special. Sucaba might be the best bareleywine I've had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 31, 2014, 08:44:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on March 31, 2014, 08:20:31 pm
I'd need to do a side by side with BCBSBW, but can't say I disagree. Also sitting on a CEntral WAters BBBW, which is supposed to me top notch.

Really like Great Divide Old Ruffian in terms of American style, non barrel aged.

Quote from: fatskippy on March 31, 2014, 06:31:24 pm
I opened a Bolt Cutter over the weekend. Better now than it was fresh, but nothing special. Sucaba might be the best bareleywine I've had.

isn't bcbsbw an english barleywine? bolt cutter is american, the comparison would not be fair.  american barleywines are one style i have yet to really get into.  love english barleywines... can't get enough of them, but haven't found that special american barleywine that ropes me in.

anyways, i'm looking forward to cracking open my bolt cutter (thanks, sweetcell!).  fatskippy, do you think i should keep it aging or would you recommend letting it go a bit longer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2014, 09:20:11 pm
Don't try to keep it all for yourself Jimmy. Ck is tapping a keg tomorrow. I'd expect a line and for it to be kicked in an hour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 31, 2014, 09:33:26 pm
Wasn't the case last year, according to someone on beer advocate forum:

Churchkey will have KBS at opening (4pm) tomorrow. Went last year and it was a suprisingly small crowd with a lot Nats fans coming in post opening day game.

Quote from: Yada on March 31, 2014, 09:20:11 pm
Don't try to keep it all for yourself Jimmy. Ck is tapping a keg tomorrow. I'd expect a line and for it to be kicked in an hour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2014, 09:42:12 pm
4pm may be a bit early, but my COB, that place will be a mob scene.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on March 31, 2014, 09:43:38 pm
Get to work by  6 or 7am and your COB is 3:30!

Quote from: Yada on March 31, 2014, 09:42:12 pm
4pm may be a bit early, but my COB, that place will be a mob scene.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 31, 2014, 10:55:58 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 31, 2014, 06:18:07 pm
http://dontdrinkbeer.com/2014/03/22/blind-barrel-aged-barleywine-tasting-results-are-in-god-damn-it/

blind barleywine tasting results

there is no way you can taste that many BWs and be able to differentiate any subtleties.  not sure i can trust anything gleamed from this taste-test. 

Quote from: stevewizzle on March 31, 2014, 08:44:46 pm
love english barleywines... can't get enough of them, but haven't found that special american barleywine that ropes me in.

anyways, i'm looking forward to cracking open my bolt cutter (...).  fatskippy, do you think i should keep it aging or would you recommend letting it go a bit longer?

american BW = heavy hopping (among other things).  with time, hops fall, making an american BW closer to a british.  you like british BW.  ergo, i would hold out on your american BW (AKA Bolt Cutter).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 01, 2014, 09:08:07 am
Quote from: James Ford on March 31, 2014, 09:43:38 pm
Get to work by  6 or 7am and your COB is 3:30!

Quote from: Yada on March 31, 2014, 09:42:12 pm
4pm may be a bit early, but my COB, that place will be a mob scene.

I'm a fan of getting to work around 9am and leaving early!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on April 01, 2014, 09:34:18 am
Anyone get tickets for Savor?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 01, 2014, 01:02:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 31, 2014, 10:55:58 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on March 31, 2014, 06:18:07 pm
http://dontdrinkbeer.com/2014/03/22/blind-barrel-aged-barleywine-tasting-results-are-in-god-damn-it/

blind barleywine tasting results

there is no way you can taste that many BWs and be able to differentiate any subtleties.  not sure i can trust anything gleamed from this taste-test. 

i drank 7 or 8 at hard liver and agree, there wasn't much difference by the end.  there's a couple randoms that don't make much sense on the list (sucaba is pretty low, MOAS is super low), but for the most part the ones i have had are in order.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 03, 2014, 11:47:23 am
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/03/bill-would-require-florida-craft-brewers-to-sell-beer-to-distributors-then-buy-it-back-for-resale/

when you cant beat em . . . use your political influence through payoffs, to change the rules.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 03, 2014, 12:33:35 pm
it kind of makes sense.  the distributors, the guys that sell your mediocore beer to stores, regardless of whether it sells or not, and who are tasked with making sure tap lines stay fresh and keep up hte marketing campaigns, get totally undercut when a big release happens.  breweries in oregon (deschutes and logsdon, for example) now overprice their big releases at the brewery, and then provide a big allottment for the distributor to sell at a lower price in stores.  this seems to keep the most amount of people happy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 03, 2014, 01:00:13 pm
wizzle, i hope you're being sarcastic...

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 03, 2014, 12:33:35 pm
breweries in oregon (deschutes and logsdon, for example) now overprice their big releases at the brewery, and then provide a big allottment for the distributor to sell at a lower price in stores.  this seems to keep the most amount of people happy.

right, but note that there is no requirement to jack up prices, or involve a distributor, etc.  the breweries decided on their own this is what makes the most sense.  the only thing that the new FL requirement to sell to distributors for on-site sales does is put money in the pockets of distributors who have done nothing to deserve it:

Quote
If they want to sell it in their own tap rooms, they would then have to buy it back at what is typically a 30-40 percent mark-up without the bottles or cans ever leaving the brewery

distributors need to be compensated for the other services they render, but that doesn't give them the right to muscle in on their suppliers and dictate how they're going to be compensated.  if a distributor feels that not getting in on brewery-only releases is unacceptable, they can stop distributing that brewery's beer.  they shouldn't be passing laws to forcefully insert themselves into their partner's business.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 03, 2014, 01:19:26 pm
i said it kind of made sense, not that i agree with it.  and it's florida. fuck florida.

but i do think distributors are a necessary evil.  i think breweries should stick with brewing and allow distributors to do their job, but obviously there's no harm in putting up bottles and cans for sale at their shops.  i was simply offering a middle ground here... if you're keeping all your great beers away from your distributor (e.g., hunaphu or equivalent whale), then it's undercutting their job.  not everyone lives next to their favorite brewery, so distribution is a good thing. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 05, 2014, 03:17:37 am
From Anchorage brewing Facebook:

"Well after 2 straight weeks of double brews, we are finally done brewing A Deal With The Devil Barleywine! 112 hours of boiling, 28,000 lbs of malt and 46 fresh Cognac barrel send from France, we now will have 100 bbls of this aging for next year. 1300 cases! Hopefully there will be more to go around. Thanks Jeremiah for all the hard work, we got it done."

that's an increase from ~50 cases to 1300. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 09, 2014, 01:36:22 pm
What a drag beer prices are in MoCo.

Parabola is in at a local shop and they're charging $29!!!! a bottle... f'n lolz.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 09, 2014, 01:52:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 09, 2014, 01:36:22 pm
What a drag beer prices are in MoCo.

Parabola is in at a local shop and they're charging $29!!!! a bottle... f'n lolz.

... is it selling?

when places like that price gouge that bad, i find new stores and never look back.  but i've realized that for every customer these places lose, a new craft beer nerd emerges as a sucker and willfully supports the business.  it's an ugly portrait for the future...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 09, 2014, 01:55:56 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 09, 2014, 01:52:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 09, 2014, 01:36:22 pm
What a drag beer prices are in MoCo.

Parabola is in at a local shop and they're charging $29!!!! a bottle... f'n lolz.

... is it selling?

when places like that price gouge that bad, i find new stores and never look back.  but i've realized that for every customer these places lose, a new craft beer nerd emerges as a sucker and willfully supports the business.  it's an ugly portrait for the future...

To be honest, I don't buy beer in MoCo unless it's at my local corner store and not a craft brew, but I follow them on social media and gave them a ring when I saw they posted that they have it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 11, 2014, 04:13:58 pm
How does this dump win this award every year? They're undoubtedly stuffing the ballot box.

This is the place that was selling Parabola for $29 a bottle and in general, has a very mediocre selection of beer.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/bestofdc/poll/goodsandservices/2014/best-place-to-buy-beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 11, 2014, 04:19:12 pm
Yeah, that doesn't make a damn bit of sense.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2014, 10:06:51 am
apologies if this has already been posted in one of those baseball threads:

Washington Nationals Starting Firkin Fridays
3 Apr
 
(http://flyingdogbrewery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2014_nats_ballpark_map.jpg)
 
On the eve of the Washington Nationals home opener, it?s no surprise that DC has beer and baseball on the brain.

For the first time, the Washington Nationals are serving cask-conditioned beer at the stadium through the Firkin Friday program. At every Friday home game, two firkins from local DC-area breweries will be served at the Red Porch bar. The firkins will rotate between yours truly, DC Brau, Atlas, 3 Stars, Mad Fox, and Port City.

A cask of our Pale Ale with blood orange peel will be tapped tomorrow as the Nats take on the Atlanta Braves. Here?s our remaining schedule:

May 16 vs. New York Mets
July 4 vs. Chicago Cubs
August 15 vs. Pittsburgh Pirates
September 26 vs. Seattle Marlins

Also new this year are 16-oz cans of Snake Dog IPA, a package available exclusively to area stadiums including Oriole Park at Camden Yards, Nationals Park, Harry Grove Stadium (home of the Frederick Keys), and Prince George?s Stadium (home of the Bowie Baysox).

http://flyingdogbrewery.com/washington-nationals-starting-firkin-fridays/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 15, 2014, 04:14:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 11, 2014, 04:13:58 pm
How does this dump win this award every year? They're undoubtedly stuffing the ballot box.

This is the place that was selling Parabola for $29 a bottle and in general, has a very mediocre selection of beer.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/bestofdc/poll/goodsandservices/2014/best-place-to-buy-beer

i went in there last year when they won that award and they gave 20% off the whole store because of it.  which made everything priced the same as all other stores in the area.  asked the guy for a couple of recommendations and he rifled through his short-list of most expensive bottles he has and had nothing to say about any of them. never went back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 15, 2014, 04:33:55 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 15, 2014, 04:14:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 11, 2014, 04:13:58 pm
How does this dump win this award every year? They're undoubtedly stuffing the ballot box.

This is the place that was selling Parabola for $29 a bottle and in general, has a very mediocre selection of beer.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/bestofdc/poll/goodsandservices/2014/best-place-to-buy-beer

i went in there last year when they won that award and they gave 20% off the whole store because of it.  which made everything priced the same as all other stores in the area.  asked the guy for a couple of recommendations and he rifled through his short-list of most expensive bottles he has and had nothing to say about any of them. never went back.

Seriously, it's beyond a joke. They're running that special again today to celebrate their great success, lol!!!

In other news, not sure how I never tried it, but I had a few drafts of Great Lakes Chill Wave over the weekend and it was quite delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 15, 2014, 04:37:24 pm
I bought a case of Bells Oberon. That is all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 15, 2014, 05:06:07 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on April 15, 2014, 04:37:24 pm
I bought a case of Bells Oberon. That is all.

Sorry to hear that, sir.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 15, 2014, 05:08:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 15, 2014, 05:06:07 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on April 15, 2014, 04:37:24 pm
I bought a case of Bells Oberon. That is all.

Sorry to hear that, sir.
The box is pretty, and it's from Michigan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2014, 10:08:12 pm
while i'm no longer in love with Oberon like i used to be, it's a damn fine hot weather beer.  i prefer belgian witbier as my summer thirst quencher but if none is around i'll reach for an oberon.

also, it comes in a pretty box.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 15, 2014, 10:10:22 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 15, 2014, 10:08:12 pm
also, it comes in a pretty box.
AND it's from Michigan!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 16, 2014, 09:15:05 am
Decent list.

http://www.thrillist.com/drink/washington-dc/adams-morgan/best-craft-beer-bars-in-washington-dc

I have to say the addition of City Tap House in that part of town has been great. I started my evening there last night with an Allagash Tap Takeover.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2014, 11:11:27 am
decent list indeed!

they completely missed the dupont beer nexus, tho: scion, pizza p, big hunt, and GBD.  hell, i once walked into DGS deli thinking it was GBD (it's like 2 doors down), and they had BCBS on tap!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 16, 2014, 11:16:24 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 16, 2014, 11:11:27 am
decent list indeed!

they completely missed the dupont beer nexus, tho: scion, pizza p, big hunt, and GBD.  hell, i once walked into DGS deli thinking it was GBD (it's like 2 doors down), and they had BCBS on tap!

I've never been to their Dupont pick, so I can't comment on it? Any good? I haven't been there since it was the Brickskellar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2014, 11:47:36 am
nope, i haven't been there since the switch either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 16, 2014, 03:24:29 pm
Anyone try the Stone "go to ipa"?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 17, 2014, 09:48:31 am
The State of American Beer
What's rising, what's fading, and what people are really drinking
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/04/the-state-of-american-beer/360583/
summary: Big Beer is on the decline but still represents 90% of the market; craft beer is rising quickly but represents a small portion of the total.

but will all that flavorful, hoppy craft beer create a hop shortage in the future (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/food-for-men/the-future-of-hops-futures)?  IMO, no.  it'll be bumpy for certain varieties until production can be ramped up, but these will be spot shortages that will correct themselves within a year.  just makes craft beer that much more exciting!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 17, 2014, 10:01:56 am
Quote from: Bagley on April 16, 2014, 03:24:29 pm
Anyone try the Stone "go to ipa"?

I?ve kind of realized I don?t like any of the session IPAs all that much? If I want a light beer,  I?ll just drink a light beer vs. drinking a watered down IPA.

I wouldn?t call it bad, I just don?t enjoy that style all too much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 17, 2014, 10:04:53 am
I'm with you there. I'll just drink six ounces of a DIPA and call it even.

Lagunitas Daytime was the best one I've had yet.


Quote from: Yada on April 17, 2014, 10:01:56 am
Quote from: Bagley on April 16, 2014, 03:24:29 pm
Anyone try the Stone "go to ipa"?

I?ve kind of realized I don?t like any of the session IPAs all that much? If I want a light beer,  I?ll just drink a light beer vs. drinking a watered down IPA.

I wouldn?t call it bad, I just don?t enjoy that style all too much.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 17, 2014, 10:45:05 am
I had Kloster Andech Helles last night.  I wasn't impressed.  Tasted like an American Light beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 02:18:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 17, 2014, 09:48:31 am
The State of American Beer
What's rising, what's fading, and what people are really drinking
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/04/the-state-of-american-beer/360583/
summary: Big Beer is on the decline but still represents 90% of the market; craft beer is rising quickly but represents a small portion of the total.

i'm gonna go ahead and share this link along with the above report: http://www.beervanabuzz.com/2014/04/anheuser-buschs-latest-counteroffensive.html?m=1

i'm thinking there's some conclusions we can draw from these two reports.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:10:23 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 02:18:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 17, 2014, 09:48:31 am
The State of American Beer
What's rising, what's fading, and what people are really drinking
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/04/the-state-of-american-beer/360583/
summary: Big Beer is on the decline but still represents 90% of the market; craft beer is rising quickly but represents a small portion of the total.

i'm gonna go ahead and share this link along with the above report: http://www.beervanabuzz.com/2014/04/anheuser-buschs-latest-counteroffensive.html?m=1

i'm thinking there's some conclusions we can draw from these two reports.

Goose Island is pretty good beer.  Nothing wrong with cheaper prices. It isn't going to get me to stop drinking Union Craft or German, Austrian, and Belgian brews but if all they have is generic beers at a bar I would rather get Goose Island for 3 bucks than a Coors Light.  There is certainly no shortage of craft brews.  I don't see how this is going to effect craft brewers but a certain point the market will be saturated with the craft breweries and the fad will end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 17, 2014, 04:19:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:10:23 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 02:18:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 17, 2014, 09:48:31 am
The State of American Beer
What's rising, what's fading, and what people are really drinking
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/04/the-state-of-american-beer/360583/
summary: Big Beer is on the decline but still represents 90% of the market; craft beer is rising quickly but represents a small portion of the total.

i'm gonna go ahead and share this link along with the above report: http://www.beervanabuzz.com/2014/04/anheuser-buschs-latest-counteroffensive.html?m=1

i'm thinking there's some conclusions we can draw from these two reports.

Goose Island is pretty good beer.  Nothing wrong with cheaper prices. It isn't going to get me to stop drinking Union Craft or German, Austrian, and Belgian brews but if all they have is generic beers at a bar I would rather get Goose Island for 3 bucks than a Coors Light.  There is certainly no shortage of craft brews.  I don't see how this is going to effect craft brewers but a certain point the market will be saturated with the craft breweries and the fad will end.

No... the good ones will survive, the mediocre ones like Goose Island that are purchased by large corporate breweries will survive, and the crappy ones will disappear. The fad won't end though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:30:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 17, 2014, 04:19:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:10:23 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 02:18:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 17, 2014, 09:48:31 am
The State of American Beer
What's rising, what's fading, and what people are really drinking
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/04/the-state-of-american-beer/360583/
summary: Big Beer is on the decline but still represents 90% of the market; craft beer is rising quickly but represents a small portion of the total.

i'm gonna go ahead and share this link along with the above report: http://www.beervanabuzz.com/2014/04/anheuser-buschs-latest-counteroffensive.html?m=1

i'm thinking there's some conclusions we can draw from these two reports.

Goose Island is pretty good beer.  Nothing wrong with cheaper prices. It isn't going to get me to stop drinking Union Craft or German, Austrian, and Belgian brews but if all they have is generic beers at a bar I would rather get Goose Island for 3 bucks than a Coors Light.  There is certainly no shortage of craft brews.  I don't see how this is going to effect craft brewers but a certain point the market will be saturated with the craft breweries and the fad will end.

No... the good ones will survive, the mediocre ones like Goose Island that are purchased by large corporate breweries will survive, and the crappy ones will disappear. The fad won't end though.

Sure it will.  You can tell as IPA's are so much  more popular than everything else combined.  It isn't like people are actually changing and liking new things.  They have gone from one extreme to the other.  I doubt it will be the best beer that will survive.  More the best marketing and management that will survive.   Unless people start exclusively drinking local beers than it will collapse. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 17, 2014, 04:34:36 pm
Got that Stochastic Grapefruit thing waiting in the fridge...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 05:29:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 17, 2014, 04:19:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:10:23 pm
Goose Island is pretty good beer.  Nothing wrong with cheaper prices. It isn't going to get me to stop drinking Union Craft or German, Austrian, and Belgian brews but if all they have is generic beers at a bar I would rather get Goose Island for 3 bucks than a Coors Light.  There is certainly no shortage of craft brews.  I don't see how this is going to effect craft brewers but a certain point the market will be saturated with the craft breweries and the fad will end.

No... the good ones will survive, the mediocre ones like Goose Island that are purchased by large corporate breweries will survive, and the crappy ones will disappear. The fad won't end though.

this is all true.  i imagine the low prices won't be sustainable, but that's where the atlantic article gets interesting... domestic beers case sale decline doesn't necessarily correlate 1:1 with dollar sales decline.  so domestic beer is becoming more profitable, and these same companies can probably subsidize some craft brew brands they own for the time being so they maintain most of the taps in bars.


Quote from: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:30:20 pm
Sure it will.  You can tell as IPA's are so much  more popular than everything else combined.  It isn't like people are actually changing and liking new things.  They have gone from one extreme to the other.  I doubt it will be the best beer that will survive.  More the best marketing and management that will survive.   Unless people start exclusively drinking local beers than it will collapse. 

not to turn this into another "you have shit taste" discussions, but i really have to just write off your opinion on IPAs and assume that you've just never had a good one.  and that makes sense... there's, oh, i don't know, a handful of good IPAs available year-round in the DC/Baltimore area, and unless you have it fresh, on draft, and from a clean tap, it's not going to leave much of an impression on you.  IPA will forever be my go-to, because when they are good, they're fucking great.

Quote from: grateful on April 17, 2014, 04:34:36 pm
Got that Stochastic Grapefruit thing waiting in the fridge...
why aren't you drinking this now?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 17, 2014, 05:31:31 pm
Chardonnay Night in Richmond, boys!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 17, 2014, 05:43:33 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 05:29:59 pm
Quote from: grateful on April 17, 2014, 04:34:36 pm
Got that Stochastic Grapefruit thing waiting in the fridge...
why aren't you drinking this now?

I'm not home yet!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 17, 2014, 05:46:29 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 05:29:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 17, 2014, 04:19:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:10:23 pm
Goose Island is pretty good beer.  Nothing wrong with cheaper prices. It isn't going to get me to stop drinking Union Craft or German, Austrian, and Belgian brews but if all they have is generic beers at a bar I would rather get Goose Island for 3 bucks than a Coors Light.  There is certainly no shortage of craft brews.  I don't see how this is going to effect craft brewers but a certain point the market will be saturated with the craft breweries and the fad will end.

No... the good ones will survive, the mediocre ones like Goose Island that are purchased by large corporate breweries will survive, and the crappy ones will disappear. The fad won't end though.

this is all true.  i imagine the low prices won't be sustainable, but that's where the atlantic article gets interesting... domestic beers case sale decline doesn't necessarily correlate 1:1 with dollar sales decline.  so domestic beer is becoming more profitable, and these same companies can probably subsidize some craft brew brands they own for the time being so they maintain most of the taps in bars.


Quote from: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:30:20 pm
Sure it will.  You can tell as IPA's are so much  more popular than everything else combined.  It isn't like people are actually changing and liking new things.  They have gone from one extreme to the other.  I doubt it will be the best beer that will survive.  More the best marketing and management that will survive.   Unless people start exclusively drinking local beers than it will collapse. 

not to turn this into another "you have shit taste" discussions, but i really have to just write off your opinion on IPAs and assume that you've just never had a good one.  and that makes sense... there's, oh, i don't know, a handful of good IPAs available year-round in the DC/Baltimore area, and unless you have it fresh, on draft, and from a clean tap, it's not going to leave much of an impression on you.  IPA will forever be my go-to, because when they are good, they're fucking great.

Quote from: grateful on April 17, 2014, 04:34:36 pm
Got that Stochastic Grapefruit thing waiting in the fridge...
why aren't you drinking this now?



This doesn't even have anything to do with my opinion on the quality of IPA's.  It is just easy to see it is fad.  People have gone from an extreme of barely any hop flavor to being hit over the head with hops.  I like some IPAs.  But I wouldn't' want to just drink Dunkels the rest of my life either or Beligian Blondes. Or even Heifweizens.  If people really were getting into tastes of beer they would be trying everything instead of just drinking one style of beer.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 06:12:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on April 17, 2014, 05:46:29 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 05:29:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 17, 2014, 04:19:15 pm
Quote from: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:10:23 pm
Goose Island is pretty good beer.  Nothing wrong with cheaper prices. It isn't going to get me to stop drinking Union Craft or German, Austrian, and Belgian brews but if all they have is generic beers at a bar I would rather get Goose Island for 3 bucks than a Coors Light.  There is certainly no shortage of craft brews.  I don't see how this is going to effect craft brewers but a certain point the market will be saturated with the craft breweries and the fad will end.

No... the good ones will survive, the mediocre ones like Goose Island that are purchased by large corporate breweries will survive, and the crappy ones will disappear. The fad won't end though.

this is all true.  i imagine the low prices won't be sustainable, but that's where the atlantic article gets interesting... domestic beers case sale decline doesn't necessarily correlate 1:1 with dollar sales decline.  so domestic beer is becoming more profitable, and these same companies can probably subsidize some craft brew brands they own for the time being so they maintain most of the taps in bars.


Quote from: atomic on April 17, 2014, 04:30:20 pm
Sure it will.  You can tell as IPA's are so much  more popular than everything else combined.  It isn't like people are actually changing and liking new things.  They have gone from one extreme to the other.  I doubt it will be the best beer that will survive.  More the best marketing and management that will survive.   Unless people start exclusively drinking local beers than it will collapse. 

not to turn this into another "you have shit taste" discussions, but i really have to just write off your opinion on IPAs and assume that you've just never had a good one.  and that makes sense... there's, oh, i don't know, a handful of good IPAs available year-round in the DC/Baltimore area, and unless you have it fresh, on draft, and from a clean tap, it's not going to leave much of an impression on you.  IPA will forever be my go-to, because when they are good, they're fucking great.

Quote from: grateful on April 17, 2014, 04:34:36 pm
Got that Stochastic Grapefruit thing waiting in the fridge...
why aren't you drinking this now?



This doesn't even have anything to do with my opinion on the quality of IPA's.  It is just easy to see it is fad.  People have gone from an extreme of barely any hop flavor to being hit over the head with hops.  I like some IPAs.  But I wouldn't' want to just drink Dunkels the rest of my life either or Beligian Blondes. Or even Heifweizens.  If people really were getting into tastes of beer they would be trying everything instead of just drinking one style of beer.   

but IPAs have everything to do with why you think craft beer is a fad.

IPAs are somewhat of a gateway to craft beer... for a lot of people, i imagine it introduces flavors they didn't know existed.

so not only is it not a fad, once more people realize how great a fresh IPA can taste, they'll be seeking out more local, fresh beers.  i don't think we'll consider the market saturated for a long, long time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 06:21:51 pm
speaking of IPAs... i just got a sad phone call from the guys over at yakima valley hops, who informed me that my order of a fuckton of citra hops and hopshots was mixed up and sent to the wrong person. and presumably, i'm going to get some clowns order of a bunch pussy hops like williamette and fugles.  was hoping to get all my hops so i could brew an all citra IPA this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2014, 04:27:57 pm
i'll be reading this on the ride home tonight:

The Misconceptions and Misinformation Surrounding Limited Release Craft Beers
http://emptygrowler.com/2014/04/limited-releases/

commentary for beer geeks on the above article:
http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-misconceptions-and-misinformation-surrounding-limited-release-craft-beers.170743/

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 06:21:51 pm
speaking of IPAs... i just got a sad phone call from the guys over at yakima valley hops, who informed me that my order of a fuckton of citra hops and hopshots was mixed up and sent to the wrong person. and presumably, i'm going to get some clowns order of a bunch pussy hops like williamette and fugles.  was hoping to get all my hops so i could brew an all citra IPA this weekend.

i (and possibly only i) feel your pain.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 06:29:20 pm
Best live music venue to find KBS on the beer cooler:

IOTA

No idea what they are selling it for.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2014, 06:59:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 06:29:20 pm
Best live music venue to find KBS on the beer cooler:

IOTA

No idea what they are selling it for.

Why didn't you ask?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 18, 2014, 07:04:43 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 06:29:20 pm
Best live music venue to find KBS on the beer cooler:

IOTA

No idea what they are selling it for.
I go to Iota for the beer and the Birchmere for the food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 07:35:11 pm
Speaking of Richmond and beer, I'll be at Mekong for lunch and Hardywood for dinner on Friday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 07:37:44 pm
I didn't want to be tempted!

I had a $6 draft of Ten Fidy at Clarendon WF prior to the show, so i had had my fill of imperial stouts.

Quote from: Yada on April 18, 2014, 06:59:00 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 06:29:20 pm
Best live music venue to find KBS on the beer cooler:

IOTA

No idea what they are selling it for.

Why didn't you ask?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 18, 2014, 08:09:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 07:35:11 pm
Speaking of Richmond and beer, I'll be at Mekong for lunch and Hardywood for dinner on Friday.
Hardywood does food?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 08:20:48 pm
Food trucks. I'm not a big fan of food trucks, but what the hell. Any word on Boka Taco? Thy are supposed to be there.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on April 18, 2014, 08:09:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 07:35:11 pm
Speaking of Richmond and beer, I'll be at Mekong for lunch and Hardywood for dinner on Friday.
Hardywood does food?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 18, 2014, 08:24:02 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 08:20:48 pm
Food trucks. I'm not a big fan of food trucks, but what the hell. Any word on Boka Taco? Thy are supposed to be there.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on April 18, 2014, 08:09:42 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 07:35:11 pm
Speaking of Richmond and beer, I'll be at Mekong for lunch and Hardywood for dinner on Friday.
Hardywood does food?
Oh, I did know they did the food truck thing. The Boca taco thing is raved about. They've opened two hyped restaurants in addition to the taco truck. They're probably a good bet. Goatacado is another good RVA food truck, I can attest to personally. Have fun.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 20, 2014, 03:01:44 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/20/new-environmentally-unfriendly-fda-proposal-will-hike-up-the-price-of-your-beer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 20, 2014, 04:21:21 pm
Went to an eastr dinner at the in-laws.  Their pastor showed up with Three Philosophers :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 20, 2014, 09:32:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2014, 04:27:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on April 17, 2014, 06:21:51 pm
speaking of IPAs... i just got a sad phone call from the guys over at yakima valley hops, who informed me that my order of a fuckton of citra hops and hopshots was mixed up and sent to the wrong person. and presumably, i'm going to get some clowns order of a bunch pussy hops like williamette and fugles.  was hoping to get all my hops so i could brew an all citra IPA this weekend.

i (and possibly only i) feel your pain.

they accidentally sent me a pro-brewers package.

brewed an IPA with centinnial, sorachi ace, and a fuck ton of azacca hops. 

i'm in hop heaven.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2014, 12:21:03 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 20, 2014, 03:01:44 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/20/new-environmentally-unfriendly-fda-proposal-will-hike-up-the-price-of-your-beer/

this is a serious issue.  the new FDA regulation is going to turn a mutually beneficial relationship into a lose-lose proposition.  this is intervening where there is no problem.  frustrating. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 21, 2014, 02:33:47 pm
(http://www.brandchannel.com/home/image.axd?picture=2013%2F4%2F26.2-BostonBrew-560.jpg)

http://www.jaunted.com/story/2014/4/15/175548/702/travel/What+Everyone+Should+Be+Drinking+at+Today's+Boston+Marathon++
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2014, 03:12:32 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 21, 2014, 02:33:47 pm
(http://www.brandchannel.com/home/image.axd?picture=2013%2F4%2F26.2-BostonBrew-560.jpg)

http://www.jaunted.com/story/2014/4/15/175548/702/travel/What+Everyone+Should+Be+Drinking+at+Today's+Boston+Marathon++

Murica.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 21, 2014, 03:13:52 pm
Yeah, that's not crass opportunism or anything.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 21, 2014, 03:44:06 pm
Yeah, I know people were up there last year, enjoyed this beer and the pint glass and ran the marathon.  They've got no beef, so I'm not sure why you're throwing stones from your mother's basement.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 21, 2014, 03:45:47 pm
Quote from: grateful on April 21, 2014, 03:44:06 pm
Yeah, I know people were up there last year, enjoyed this beer and the pint glass and ran the marathon.  They've got no beef, so I'm not sure why you're throwing stones from your mother's basement.
We keep the computer in the living room which is on the GROUND FLOOR.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2014, 04:02:37 pm
interesting: that 26.2 beer is a gose, according to http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/80190/.  wow.  is samual adams morphing into dogfish head?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 21, 2014, 05:28:32 pm
Had a couple of bottles of Fox Barell Pacific Pear Cider.  It was ok.  I guess it would be good outside on a warm summer day as a cool refreshing beverage. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 21, 2014, 09:02:59 pm
i know its not beer, but hey . . . care to do a line or some bumps of, alcohol?

http://gawker.com/powdered-alcohol-coming-to-a-liquor-store-near-you-1565094422
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 04:37:08 pm
How many of you would go to this beer festival (note, link is safe for work)?

http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2014/04/22/naked-beer-fest-poconos/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 22, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 04:37:08 pm
How many of you would go to this beer festival (note, link is safe for work)?

http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2014/04/22/naked-beer-fest-poconos/



Not me. I am guessing it will be mostly dudes there.  I hate seeing nude guys at the gym.  I don't want to see them while I am enjoying a beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:08:00 pm
How about a nude wine fest? Probably still mostly naked guys and their fat wives, based on my own experiences with nude beaches.

Quote from: atomic on April 22, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 04:37:08 pm
How many of you would go to this beer festival (note, link is safe for work)?

http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2014/04/22/naked-beer-fest-poconos/



Not me. I am guessing it will be mostly dudes there.  I hate seeing nude guys at the gym.  I don't want to see them while I am enjoying a beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 22, 2014, 05:10:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:08:00 pm
How about a nude wine fest? Probably still mostly naked guys and their fat wives, based on my own experiences with nude beaches.

Quote from: atomic on April 22, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 04:37:08 pm
How many of you would go to this beer festival (note, link is safe for work)?

http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2014/04/22/naked-beer-fest-poconos/



Not me. I am guessing it will be mostly dudes there.  I hate seeing nude guys at the gym.  I don't want to see them while I am enjoying a beer.

How many "nude" beaches have you been to? I haven't been to any really, but many topless beaches in Europe or maybe that's just the norm... but the women there were neither fat nor ugly...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:13:52 pm
One in New Jersey, one in Vancouver, a couple in California, one in France, and one in Spain. I might be forgetting some. All before having a kid.

Yes, the topless beaches have much better eye candy than the full nudity beaches.

Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2014, 05:10:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:08:00 pm
How about a nude wine fest? Probably still mostly naked guys and their fat wives, based on my own experiences with nude beaches.

Quote from: atomic on April 22, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 04:37:08 pm
How many of you would go to this beer festival (note, link is safe for work)?

http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2014/04/22/naked-beer-fest-poconos/



Not me. I am guessing it will be mostly dudes there.  I hate seeing nude guys at the gym.  I don't want to see them while I am enjoying a beer.

How many "nude" beaches have you been to? I haven't been to any really, but many topless beaches in Europe or maybe that's just the norm... but the women there were neither fat nor ugly...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 22, 2014, 05:18:48 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:13:52 pm
One in New Jersey, one in Vancouver, a couple in California, one in France, and one in Spain. I might be forgetting some. All before having a kid.

Yes, the topless beaches have much better eye candy than the full nudity beaches.

Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2014, 05:10:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:08:00 pm
How about a nude wine fest? Probably still mostly naked guys and their fat wives, based on my own experiences with nude beaches.

Quote from: atomic on April 22, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 04:37:08 pm
How many of you would go to this beer festival (note, link is safe for work)?

http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2014/04/22/naked-beer-fest-poconos/



Not me. I am guessing it will be mostly dudes there.  I hate seeing nude guys at the gym.  I don't want to see them while I am enjoying a beer.

How many "nude" beaches have you been to? I haven't been to any really, but many topless beaches in Europe or maybe that's just the norm... but the women there were neither fat nor ugly...

I never figured James Ford was a Perv.  Live and learn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 22, 2014, 05:29:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:13:52 pm
One in New Jersey, one in Vancouver, a couple in California, one in France, and one in Spain. I might be forgetting some. All before having a kid.

Yes, the topless beaches have much better eye candy than the full nudity beaches.

Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2014, 05:10:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:08:00 pm
How about a nude wine fest? Probably still mostly naked guys and their fat wives, based on my own experiences with nude beaches.

Quote from: atomic on April 22, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 04:37:08 pm
How many of you would go to this beer festival (note, link is safe for work)?

http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2014/04/22/naked-beer-fest-poconos/



Not me. I am guessing it will be mostly dudes there.  I hate seeing nude guys at the gym.  I don't want to see them while I am enjoying a beer.

How many "nude" beaches have you been to? I haven't been to any really, but many topless beaches in Europe or maybe that's just the norm... but the women there were neither fat nor ugly...

Christ... why on earth would you go to the US nude beaches? No wonder you saw some nasty danglers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:41:32 pm
Because we like to be nude on a beach, and we couldn't get rid of the other people who were there.


Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2014, 05:29:46 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:13:52 pm
One in New Jersey, one in Vancouver, a couple in California, one in France, and one in Spain. I might be forgetting some. All before having a kid.

Yes, the topless beaches have much better eye candy than the full nudity beaches.

Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2014, 05:10:47 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 05:08:00 pm
How about a nude wine fest? Probably still mostly naked guys and their fat wives, based on my own experiences with nude beaches.

Quote from: atomic on April 22, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 04:37:08 pm
How many of you would go to this beer festival (note, link is safe for work)?

http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2014/04/22/naked-beer-fest-poconos/



Not me. I am guessing it will be mostly dudes there.  I hate seeing nude guys at the gym.  I don't want to see them while I am enjoying a beer.

How many "nude" beaches have you been to? I haven't been to any really, but many topless beaches in Europe or maybe that's just the norm... but the women there were neither fat nor ugly...

Christ... why on earth would you go to the US nude beaches? No wonder you saw some nasty danglers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 23, 2014, 11:58:45 am
Enough about nude beaches.

This guy has reviewed 10,000 beers on ratebeer.com

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/ratebeers-no-2-will-soon-taste-his-10000th/2014/04/20/27142e6a-c1c1-11e3-b574-f8748871856a_story.html

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 23, 2014, 12:01:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 23, 2014, 11:58:45 am
Enough about nude beaches.

This guy has reviewed 10,000 beers on ratebeer.com

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/ratebeers-no-2-will-soon-taste-his-10000th/2014/04/20/27142e6a-c1c1-11e3-b574-f8748871856a_story.html


The poor guy: to think he could've been drinking gin and tonics the entire time...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 23, 2014, 01:02:06 pm
I bet James is hung like a dung beetle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 23, 2014, 01:33:24 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on April 23, 2014, 12:01:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on April 23, 2014, 11:58:45 am
Enough about nude beaches.

This guy has reviewed 10,000 beers on ratebeer.com

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/ratebeers-no-2-will-soon-taste-his-10000th/2014/04/20/27142e6a-c1c1-11e3-b574-f8748871856a_story.html


The poor guy: to think he could've been drinking gin and tonics the entire time...

I was thinking what a loser.  Drinking 10,000 beers is cool but rating them all on some lame website seems like he is just drinking beer so he can post it on a lame website. 

I only drink Gin and Tonics before boarding an airlplane. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 23, 2014, 01:36:52 pm
I only have to drink Gin and Tonics before boarding an airlplane.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 23, 2014, 01:47:15 pm
Quote from: grateful on April 23, 2014, 01:36:52 pm
I experience the exquisite pleasure of drinking Gin and Tonics before boarding an airlplane.
FTFY
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 23, 2014, 01:48:05 pm
Gin is one booze I never liked all too much... I think in my teens we abused it too much to ever like it again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 23, 2014, 03:29:58 pm
Will the innovation never cease.

http://www.lollyphile.com/products/mixed-packs-beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 25, 2014, 05:55:46 pm
Drinking a growler of New Belgium Gruit.  Actually pretty tasty.  Hated the dogfish head gruit I drank before but this stuff I recommend highly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 25, 2014, 05:57:52 pm
Try the New Belgium La Folie. It's a Flanders Oude Bruin. Maybe the best one out there. Now that's one tasty beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 25, 2014, 06:50:07 pm
well that's two beers i'll be picking up this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on April 26, 2014, 04:39:27 pm
La Folie is an excellent beer. Had it last year and this year. Both were very, very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 26, 2014, 04:56:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 23, 2014, 01:48:05 pm
Gin is one booze I never liked all too much... I think in my teens we abused it too much to ever like it again.
I'll be laughing my head off when you have malaria.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 29, 2014, 01:22:33 am
cracked open a 2014 parabola tonight.... and damn, that's a fine beer.

i've only had it one other time, i aged a 2013 and opened it back in february, and i said "what's all the fuss about?".  but as it goes with cellaring, sometimes your bottles just don't hold up or develop like you hoped.

contrarily, i think sucaba needs time. give it one year? i basically turn into barney.

(http://whatsincider.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/barney-tap.jpg?w=406&h=305)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 29, 2014, 08:15:52 am
Taking notes on this, as I now have one of each from 2013.  ;D

Wonder how the Double DBA ages?


Quote from: stevewizzle on April 29, 2014, 01:22:33 am
cracked open a 2014 parabola tonight.... and damn, that's a fine beer.

i've only had it one other time, i aged a 2013 and opened it back in february, and i said "what's all the fuss about?".  but as it goes with cellaring, sometimes your bottles just don't hold up or develop like you hoped.

contrarily, i think sucaba needs time. give it one year? i basically turn into barney.

(http://whatsincider.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/barney-tap.jpg?w=406&h=305)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 29, 2014, 11:46:58 am
opinions vary. all about personal preference.  i tend to to enjoy my imperial stouts hot and my BA barleywines aged. i don't really love DDBA, only had it fresh and it was too sweet for me. it'll only get sweeter as time goes by.

i had a 2011 abacus last month and it tasted no different than the 2013 sucaba i had a week ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 29, 2014, 01:49:28 pm
I guess I should drink my 13' bottles of Parabola...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 30, 2014, 02:07:19 pm
I may have to brave the crowds a few nights.

http://www.churchkeydc.com/documents/CK2014SAVOR.pdf

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 30, 2014, 02:26:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 30, 2014, 02:07:19 pm
I may have to brave the crowds a few nights.

http://www.churchkeydc.com/documents/CK2014SAVOR.pdf



oh neat, bluejacket/hardywood made an imperial azacca-hopped IPA.  let me know if any of you try it, i just brewed with this hop. 

i would also definitely make it out for the kuhnhenn BA barleywine.

remind me to visit DC next year for the week leading up to savor...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 30, 2014, 02:51:49 pm
I just changed a doctor's appt so that I can make it out for the Kuhnhenn/ Maine Beer Company night.  ;D

Quote from: stevewizzle on April 30, 2014, 02:26:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 30, 2014, 02:07:19 pm
I may have to brave the crowds a few nights.

http://www.churchkeydc.com/documents/CK2014SAVOR.pdf



oh neat, bluejacket/hardywood made an imperial azacca-hopped IPA.  let me know if any of you try it, i just brewed with this hop. 

i would also definitely make it out for the kuhnhenn BA barleywine.

remind me to visit DC next year for the week leading up to savor...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on April 30, 2014, 04:32:55 pm
I had a bottle of Ayinger Jahrhundert.  It was a light lager.  Nothing to get too excited about.  Light on flavor.  But it did its job.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 30, 2014, 04:52:51 pm
I opened up that 12 pack of Oberon I posted about earlier during the Tigers game. That is still the most pleasing color scheme of any beer label/box I've seen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 30, 2014, 09:37:31 pm
Oh hai. Imma be in Seattle, probly Octoberish. I hear therez good beer there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 30, 2014, 10:07:44 pm
Bring me back some Fremont, Hair of the Dog, Ninkasi, Cascade,  Alaskan, and Deschutes. I realize only one of those is a Seattle brewery.

Quote from: grateful on April 30, 2014, 09:37:31 pm
Oh hai. Imma be in Seattle, probly Octoberish. I hear therez good beer there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 30, 2014, 10:34:49 pm
I'm in California now.  I think I saw most of those in a grocery store, here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 01, 2014, 12:06:10 am
Quote from: grateful on April 30, 2014, 09:37:31 pm
Oh hai. Imma be in Seattle, probly Octoberish. I hear therez good beer there.

i can be of assistance.

if you're in town early october, you might be able to catch elysian's great pumpkin festival or fremonts oktoberfest.  both are fantastic events worth attending.

for breweries... check back closer to that date. my current favorites are fremont, reubens, stoup, and urban family.  all of those are located within a mile or so radius.

for beer in general... oregon makes better beer and you should drink a fair amount of oregon beers while you're here. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 01, 2014, 06:47:15 am
I'm always amazed at what good beer you can find in any random store in California. Boggles the mind.

Quote from: grateful on April 30, 2014, 10:34:49 pm
I'm in California now.  I think I saw most of those in a grocery store, here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 02, 2014, 09:13:52 am
Found a bottle of Parabola for $18 at a random liquor store in the city yesterday!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 02, 2014, 12:16:24 pm
My wife just got a bottle of it for $15 at our local Whole Foods. They got six bottles and sold out very quickly. I guess that's what telecommuting is all about!

Quote from: Yada on May 02, 2014, 09:13:52 am
Found a bottle of Parabola for $18 at a random liquor store in the city yesterday!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 02, 2014, 12:26:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 02, 2014, 09:13:52 am
Found a bottle of Parabola for $18 at a random liquor store in the city yesterday!

no way!  did they have any more?

i, brennser and another bottle-share regular met up at GBD last night for their tapping of Parabola.  got 2 glasses in before having to leave.  best goddam imperial stout on the planet.  it was a tad hot, can't wait to taste my bottles once they get a bit of age on them.  somewhat annoying that the draft last night was exactly twice as expensive as buying it in the bottle.

off to VT this weekend, last of awesome beer.  should be bringing back some Heady ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 02, 2014, 01:24:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 02, 2014, 12:26:41 pm
best goddam imperial stout on the planet.  it was a tad hot, can't wait to taste my bottles once they get a bit of age on them.
Have you tried Founders? It has both a prettier label and is from Michigan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 02, 2014, 02:31:30 pm
If you're talking about Founders Imperial Stout, you're comparing apples to oranges.

Since Parabola is barrel aged, you'd need to compare Founders KBS to Parabola. Which is better? Well buy me one of each and I'll tell you. Might as well also by me a Goose Island BCBS and a Bell's Black Note to compare as well.


Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on May 02, 2014, 01:24:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 02, 2014, 12:26:41 pm
best goddam imperial stout on the planet.  it was a tad hot, can't wait to taste my bottles once they get a bit of age on them.
Have you tried Founders? It has both a prettier label and is from Michigan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 02, 2014, 02:42:21 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 02, 2014, 02:31:30 pm
Which is better? Well buy me one of each and I'll tell you. Might as well also by me a Goose Island BCBS and a Bell's Black Note to compare as well.
I'll get right on that. PM me your address so I know where to ship them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2014, 10:03:52 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 02, 2014, 12:26:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 02, 2014, 09:13:52 am
Found a bottle of Parabola for $18 at a random liquor store in the city yesterday!

no way!  did they have any more?

 

Unfortunately no... or I would've bought it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2014, 10:11:52 am
so... many... beer...events.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 11:31:05 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 02, 2014, 02:31:30 pm
Since Parabola is barrel aged, you'd need to compare Founders KBS to Parabola. Which is better? Well buy me one of each and I'll tell you. Might as well also by me a Goose Island BCBS and a Bell's Black Note to compare as well.

this year's KBS was a disappointment (despite being from Michigan).  BCBS is superb, but Parabola is much more drinkable.  i had 20 oz of Parabola at GBD last week, and if i had time i would have had 20 more.  i once had an entire 12 oz bottle of BCBS to myself and it was all i wanted.  i haven't tried Black Note in a long time (and struck out this year, i was impossible to find) so i can't rate it.  thus, my ordering is:
1. Parabola
2. Bourbon County Brand Stout
3. KBS
? Black Note

of note: Black Note, from Michigan, also comes in an attractive package:

(http://www.everydaywinesmqt.com/uploads/1/3/9/0/13908198/4672613.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2014, 11:36:16 am
KBS was bad this year??? I have one 12' left and a four pack of 13', was hoping to score the 14' at some point. I guess it was a good year to come up empty handed!

I plan to drink a ton of Parabola this week.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 05, 2014, 12:22:06 pm
Which ones are you (and other boardies) planning on hitting?

My wife and I are doing to Paradiso flower beer thing for lunch Thursday and the Meridian Pint sours for brunch on Sunday.

I'm likely doing the Kuhnhenn thing at Churchkey Friday with a friend or alone.



I'd also like to do the Surly/Churchkey event just so that I could have my first Abrasive, but don't know if I can swing it.

I'd also like to do the old beers thing at Meridian Pint just to have a Sucaba, but think I'll miss that one as well.  The Founders and Stone events look appealing, but likely will miss them too.

Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 10:11:52 am
so... many... beer...events.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 12:28:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 11:36:16 am
KBS was bad this year???

not bad per se, didn't live up to the hype.  i had it on draft twice, and both times i didn't have a second serving - i moved on to something else on the menu.  that isn't a good sign.  at least 3 other beer nerds i've been chatting with agree that KBS just wasn't all that this year, at least on tap.  i have one bottle which i'll give a few months before drinking.

with parabola, i had two servings and would have had more.  

Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 11:36:16 am
was hoping to score the 14' at some point.

i assume you're talking about trading for it, because KBS has come and gone.  you ain't gonna be buying it retail.  as you noted, not a bad year to strike out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 05, 2014, 12:30:35 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 12:28:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 11:36:16 am
KBS was bad this year???

not bad per se, didn't live up to the hype.

are you saying you couldn't taste it's rareness? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 12:36:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 05, 2014, 12:22:06 pm
Which ones are you (and other boardies) planning on hitting?

this is a bad week for me to be going out in the evening, so other than the flower lunch thinky i don't think i'm going to make anything else.  sad beer-drinking panda (but happier bank account).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 05, 2014, 01:04:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 11:31:05 am
of note: Black Note, from Michigan, also comes in an attractive package:

(http://www.everydaywinesmqt.com/uploads/1/3/9/0/13908198/4672613.jpg)
I'm NOT loving that packaging.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2014, 01:57:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 05, 2014, 12:22:06 pm
Which ones are you (and other boardies) planning on hitting?

My wife and I are doing to Paradiso flower beer thing for lunch Thursday and the Meridian Pint sours for brunch on Sunday.

I'm likely doing the Kuhnhenn thing at Churchkey Friday with a friend or alone.



I'd also like to do the Surly/Churchkey event just so that I could have my first Abrasive, but don't know if I can swing it.

I'd also like to do the old beers thing at Meridian Pint just to have a Sucaba, but think I'll miss that one as well.  The Founders and Stone events look appealing, but likely will miss them too.

Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 10:11:52 am
so... many... beer...events.

Not completely sure yet, but hopefully the Surly or one of the many Firestone Walker events (big hunt, paradiso, or CK).

I wish I was able to do some of the ones that are earlier in the day, but it just ain't in the cards.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:30 pm
for all the maryland homers:

Flying Dog announces Dead Rise Summer Ale - brewed with Old Bay
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-04-04/entertainment/bal-flying-dog-old-bay-20140404_1_flying-dog-old-bay-true-blue-program
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 05, 2014, 12:30:35 pm
are you saying you couldn't taste it's rareness? 

i'm saying it's a good imperial stout, but i needs MORE rareness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2014, 02:40:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:30 pm
for all the maryland homers:

Flying Dog announces Dead Rise Summer Ale - brewed with Old Bay
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-04-04/entertainment/bal-flying-dog-old-bay-20140404_1_flying-dog-old-bay-true-blue-program

that can't be good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 05, 2014, 02:52:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 02:40:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:30 pm
for all the maryland homers:

Flying Dog announces Dead Rise Summer Ale - brewed with Old Bay
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-04-04/entertainment/bal-flying-dog-old-bay-20140404_1_flying-dog-old-bay-true-blue-program

that can't be good.

What? Everything tastes better with Old Bay.


I had a Union Craft Anthem Cream Ale.  I didn't really care for it as the hops were overpowering. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on May 05, 2014, 03:03:02 pm
Had Parabola on tap on Saturday at GBD. Great as always, but definitely on the boozier side this year than past versions. Needs a year or so to mellow out. Really wish I found a bottle this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 04:47:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 02:40:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:30 pm
for all the maryland homers:

Flying Dog announces Dead Rise Summer Ale - brewed with Old Bay
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-04-04/entertainment/bal-flying-dog-old-bay-20140404_1_flying-dog-old-bay-true-blue-program

that can't be good.

i'm definitely going to give this one a try.  i think a belgian pale is a great style.  should be a good beer as long as they made the Old Bay a background note, something subtle.  hopefully they didn't brew something that tastes like a quarter pound of Old Bay mixed with bubbly water.

Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 05, 2014, 03:03:02 pm
Had Parabola on tap on Saturday at GBD. Great as always, but definitely on the boozier side this year than past versions. Needs a year or so to mellow out. Really wish I found a bottle this year.

wow, they still had some on saturday?!?  we were there on thursday when they tapped it.  didn't think it would last that long. 

yeah, it's definitely young and had some heat in it but it's still really drinkable.  certainly more so than fresh BCBS.  should be incredible in a year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 05, 2014, 05:19:54 pm
I think that's the first time I've ever seen the words "cream ale" and "overpowering hops" in the same paragraph.

Quote from: atomic on May 05, 2014, 02:52:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 02:40:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:30 pm
for all the maryland homers:

Flying Dog announces Dead Rise Summer Ale - brewed with Old Bay
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-04-04/entertainment/bal-flying-dog-old-bay-20140404_1_flying-dog-old-bay-true-blue-program

that can't be good.

What? Everything tastes better with Old Bay.


I had a Union Craft Anthem Cream Ale.  I didn't really care for it as the hops were overpowering. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 05, 2014, 05:22:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 05, 2014, 05:19:54 pm
I think that's the first time I've ever seen the words "cream ale" and "overpowering hops" in the same paragraph.

Quote from: atomic on May 05, 2014, 02:52:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 02:40:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:30 pm
for all the maryland homers:

Flying Dog announces Dead Rise Summer Ale - brewed with Old Bay
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-04-04/entertainment/bal-flying-dog-old-bay-20140404_1_flying-dog-old-bay-true-blue-program

that can't be good.

What? Everything tastes better with Old Bay.


I had a Union Craft Anthem Cream Ale.  I didn't really care for it as the hops were overpowering. 

Yeah it was quite disapointing. I almost didn't finish it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on May 06, 2014, 10:46:20 am
Quote from: atomic on May 05, 2014, 02:52:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 02:40:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:30 pm
for all the maryland homers:

Flying Dog announces Dead Rise Summer Ale - brewed with Old Bay
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-04-04/entertainment/bal-flying-dog-old-bay-20140404_1_flying-dog-old-bay-true-blue-program

that can't be good.

What? Everything tastes better with Old Bay.


I had a Union Craft Anthem Cream Ale.  I didn't really care for it as the hops were overpowering. 

Have you had the Hardywood Cream Ale? You might like it. Pretty easy to find as it's from Richmond.
The can drops some historical info too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 06, 2014, 10:51:24 am
Pretty easy to find if you're in VA. It's not quite in DC yet, and definitely not in Baltimore, where Atomic lives.

Quote from: slappy on May 06, 2014, 10:46:20 am
Quote from: atomic on May 05, 2014, 02:52:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 02:40:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:30 pm
for all the maryland homers:

Flying Dog announces Dead Rise Summer Ale - brewed with Old Bay
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-04-04/entertainment/bal-flying-dog-old-bay-20140404_1_flying-dog-old-bay-true-blue-program

that can't be good.

What? Everything tastes better with Old Bay.


I had a Union Craft Anthem Cream Ale.  I didn't really care for it as the hops were overpowering. 

Have you had the Hardywood Cream Ale? You might like it. Pretty easy to find as it's from Richmond.
The can drops some historical info too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 06, 2014, 12:22:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 05, 2014, 12:30:35 pm
are you saying you couldn't taste it's rareness? 

i'm saying it's a good imperial stout, but i needs MORE rareness.

those guys either need to cut production or expand distribution.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 06, 2014, 12:23:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 06, 2014, 12:22:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 05, 2014, 12:30:35 pm
are you saying you couldn't taste it's rareness? 

i'm saying it's a good imperial stout, but i needs MORE rareness.

those guys either need to cut production or expand distribution.

They should move to Michigan and redesign their label to look prettier.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 06, 2014, 12:28:16 pm
Perhaps I've lost track of the topic and/or am missing the joke, but they're (Founders) already located in Michigan.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on May 06, 2014, 12:23:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 06, 2014, 12:22:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 05, 2014, 12:30:35 pm
are you saying you couldn't taste it's rareness? 

i'm saying it's a good imperial stout, but i needs MORE rareness.

those guys either need to cut production or expand distribution.

They should move to Michigan and redesign their label to look prettier.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 06, 2014, 12:33:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2014, 12:28:16 pm
Perhaps I've lost track of the topic and/or am missing the joke, but they're (Founders) already located in Michigan.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on May 06, 2014, 12:23:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 06, 2014, 12:22:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 05, 2014, 12:30:35 pm
are you saying you couldn't taste it's rareness? 

i'm saying it's a good imperial stout, but i needs MORE rareness.

those guys either need to cut production or expand distribution.

They should move to Michigan and redesign their label to look prettier.
Just a label redesign then. Carry on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on May 06, 2014, 03:37:08 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on May 06, 2014, 12:33:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2014, 12:28:16 pm
Perhaps I've lost track of the topic and/or am missing the joke, but they're (Founders) already located in Michigan.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on May 06, 2014, 12:23:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 06, 2014, 12:22:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 05, 2014, 12:30:35 pm
are you saying you couldn't taste it's rareness? 

i'm saying it's a good imperial stout, but i needs MORE rareness.

those guys either need to cut production or expand distribution.

They should move to Michigan and redesign their label to look prettier.
Just a label redesign then. Carry on.
I think Bell's and Founders are now being confused?
Bell's has always had crappy labels, except Hopslam is kinda clever.
Crappy label art is now almost a given on good brews.

Best Labels on crappy to meh brews.
Maybe Kona?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 06, 2014, 03:39:23 pm
Quote from: slappy on May 06, 2014, 03:37:08 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on May 06, 2014, 12:33:15 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2014, 12:28:16 pm
Perhaps I've lost track of the topic and/or am missing the joke, but they're (Founders) already located in Michigan.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on May 06, 2014, 12:23:59 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 06, 2014, 12:22:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 05, 2014, 02:36:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on May 05, 2014, 12:30:35 pm
are you saying you couldn't taste it's rareness? 

i'm saying it's a good imperial stout, but i needs MORE rareness.

those guys either need to cut production or expand distribution.

They should move to Michigan and redesign their label to look prettier.
Just a label redesign then. Carry on.
I think Bell's and Founders are now being confused?
Bell's has always had crappy labels, except Hopslam is kinda clever.
Crappy label art is now almost a given on good brews.
Oberon has a very pleasing color scheme and logo. I enjoy the subtle interplay of the blue and orange together with the slightest hint of teal thats perceivable to the trained eye.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 06, 2014, 05:19:21 pm
Looking at beer is like smelling music.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2014, 05:59:58 pm
Quote from: grateful on May 06, 2014, 05:19:21 pm
Looking at beer is like smelling music.

i gotta disagree.  visual assessment of a beer will impact what is tasted.  there have been numerous studies that compared taster's feedback on a beer where half the drinkers got the original light-colored version, while the other half had the same beer that was darkened with a tasteless colorant.  the "darker beer" was rated as maltier, heavier, boozier, more intense, etc... even though its taste was identical to the lighter version.

an issue that homebrewers face is that few filter their beers, so they are often (but not always) cloudier than commercial beers.  i've seen people go so far as to refuse to try a homebrew because "it's too cloudy."  how's that for affecting your appreciation of a beer!  could have been the best thing they've ever tasted, but because of its appearance they won't even give it a try.

when i started brewing, i didn't care about appearance - it's all about the taste, right?  i've since come to appreciate the impact that the eyes have on taste, and have been putting some effort into making the beer look good.  plus, it's an extra thing to geek out on ;D

aside: part of the appeal of black IPAs, in my opinion, is the visual disconnect that they create in the drinkers mind.  "a dark beer that doesn't taste too roasty?  and it's hoppy like all those light-colored IPAs???" 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 06, 2014, 06:58:05 pm
Yeah, but what do your labels look like?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 06, 2014, 07:16:37 pm
I don't think I notice the labels that much. But I will say Founders>Bell's for beer and label art.

I like the Maine Beer Company labels.

The one time I bought  a beer because I liked the label, the beer was terrible.

(http://21st-amendment.com/assets/firesidechat_can_022113-230x409.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 07, 2014, 09:09:20 am
The Firestone Walker Keg Party at CK was quite awesome... and maybe with the addition of multiple other above average beers bars in the city, CK will start to become a comfy place to hang out at. I arrived at 5:30 and we had three seats at the bar. By the time we left around 8pm, the bar area still wasn't packed at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 10:17:36 am
Did they have Sucaba? I didn't see it on the list.

Quote from: Yada on May 07, 2014, 09:09:20 am
The Firestone Walker Keg Party at CK was quite awesome... and maybe with the addition of multiple other above average beers bars in the city, CK will start to become a comfy place to hang out at. I arrived at 5:30 and we had three seats at the bar. By the time we left around 8pm, the bar area still wasn't packed at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 07, 2014, 10:27:26 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 10:17:36 am
Did they have Sucaba? I didn't see it on the list.

Quote from: Yada on May 07, 2014, 09:09:20 am
The Firestone Walker Keg Party at CK was quite awesome... and maybe with the addition of multiple other above average beers bars in the city, CK will start to become a comfy place to hang out at. I arrived at 5:30 and we had three seats at the bar. By the time we left around 8pm, the bar area still wasn't packed at all.

Negative.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on May 07, 2014, 11:00:51 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 06, 2014, 07:16:37 pm
I don't think I notice the labels that much. But I will say Founders>Bell's for beer and label art.

I like the Maine Beer Company labels.

The one time I bought  a beer because I liked the label, the beer was terrible.

(http://21st-amendment.com/assets/firesidechat_can_022113-230x409.png)

Good one! I've yet to have a remarkable 21st Amendment but they've got cool art.
Same with Left Hand and Great Divide. I really was hoping to like Good JuJu when started popping up a few summers ago on the inclusion of ginger. It was very pedestrian.

(http://blogs.ocweekly.com/stickaforkinit/label-left.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 01:13:45 pm
I'm guessing it wasn't full because they had the same beers on at Pizza Paradiso in Dupont for half price ($4.50 Parabola, Double DBA, and Sucaba which was missing at Churchkey). Probably a third of the CK price.

Still have some left there, apparently.


Quote from: Yada on May 07, 2014, 09:09:20 am
The Firestone Walker Keg Party at CK was quite awesome... and maybe with the addition of multiple other above average beers bars in the city, CK will start to become a comfy place to hang out at. I arrived at 5:30 and we had three seats at the bar. By the time we left around 8pm, the bar area still wasn't packed at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 07, 2014, 01:20:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 01:34:13 pm
I bet my wife's Whole Foods stock is a better bet than InBev. Please buy your InBev beer at Whole Foods.

Oh wait, the nanny state of Maryland doesn't allow beer sales in supermarkets. Stupid Maryland.

Whole Foods down 19 percent today.  It might be a good time for your wife to .  buy more stock.  Get at a bargain.  It is funny after you posted this Whole Foods has nose dived while InBev has kept going up.  Whole Foods was way overpriced at the time.  Still overpriced.  I might buy if it drops another 30 percent. Seems like a good company.  Almost no Debt and good ROIC. Lot of competition but their stores are still packed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 01:27:52 pm
Honestly, I don't know shit about the stock market. I have my 401K in some kind of combined 20 and 30 year fund that grows more conservatively over time. I have the VA 529 College Fund for my kid. Both are doing great over the last couple of years.

My wife manages her own stock stuff. I pay no attention. She also has Target stock. How are they doing?


Quote from: atomic on May 07, 2014, 01:20:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 01:34:13 pm
I bet my wife's Whole Foods stock is a better bet than InBev. Please buy your InBev beer at Whole Foods.

Oh wait, the nanny state of Maryland doesn't allow beer sales in supermarkets. Stupid Maryland.

Whole Foods down 19 percent today.  It might be a good time for your wife to .  buy more stock.  Get at a bargain.  It is funny after you posted this Whole Foods has nose dived while InBev has kept going up.  Whole Foods was way overpriced at the time.  Still overpriced.  I might buy if it drops another 30 percent. Seems like a good company.  Almost no Debt and good ROIC. Lot of competition but their stores are still packed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 07, 2014, 01:50:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 01:13:45 pm
I'm guessing it wasn't full because they had the same beers on at Pizza Paradiso in Dupont for half price ($4.50 Parabola, Double DBA, and Sucaba which was missing at Churchkey). Probably a third of the CK price.

Still have some left there, apparently.


Quote from: Yada on May 07, 2014, 09:09:20 am
The Firestone Walker Keg Party at CK was quite awesome... and maybe with the addition of multiple other above average beers bars in the city, CK will start to become a comfy place to hang out at. I arrived at 5:30 and we had three seats at the bar. By the time we left around 8pm, the bar area still wasn't packed at all.

I doubt the cost is the reason and I also doubt Paradiso was selling 10oz pours for $4.50.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 01:56:21 pm
9 ounces, $4.50. Sucaba wasn't on the original draft list but somehow they slipped it in there.

Firestone Walker Parabola 13.0 9oz. Draft $9.00
Firestone Walker Sucaba 13.0 9oz. Draft $9.00


1/2priced drafts from 5-7pm.


The Draft List:

Firestone Walker DBA
 Firestone Walker Double DBA
 Firestone Walker Easy Jack
 Firestone Walker Opal
 Firestone Walker Parabola
 Firestone Walker Union Jack
 Flying Dog Barrel Aged Gonzo
 Flying Dog Bloodline
 Flying Dog Easy IPA
 Flying Dog K9
 Flying Dog Single Hop Amarillo
 Flying Dog The Truth

No Reservations needed.  All beers priced individually. 1/2priced drafts from 5-7pm.- See more at: http://www.eatyourpizza.com/#sthash.F1wlX0Ii.dpuf

Quote from: Yada on May 07, 2014, 01:50:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 01:13:45 pm
I'm guessing it wasn't full because they had the same beers on at Pizza Paradiso in Dupont for half price ($4.50 Parabola, Double DBA, and Sucaba which was missing at Churchkey). Probably a third of the CK price.

Still have some left there, apparently.


Quote from: Yada on May 07, 2014, 09:09:20 am
The Firestone Walker Keg Party at CK was quite awesome... and maybe with the addition of multiple other above average beers bars in the city, CK will start to become a comfy place to hang out at. I arrived at 5:30 and we had three seats at the bar. By the time we left around 8pm, the bar area still wasn't packed at all.

I doubt the cost is the reason and I also doubt Paradiso was selling 10oz pours for $4.50.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 07, 2014, 01:59:16 pm
American Beer Classic
RFK Stadium
July 12 , 2014
American Beer Classic is the ultimate opportunity to celebrate and experience America?s finest beers. Sample and learn from a diverse lineup of breweries while connecting with other beer enthusiasts.
www.americanbeerclassic.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 07, 2014, 02:02:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 01:56:21 pm
9 ounces, $4.50. Sucaba wasn't on the original draft list but somehow they slipped it in there.

Firestone Walker Parabola 13.0 9oz. Draft $9.00
Firestone Walker Sucaba 13.0 9oz. Draft $9.00


1/2priced drafts from 5-7pm.


The Draft List:

Firestone Walker DBA
 Firestone Walker Double DBA
 Firestone Walker Easy Jack
 Firestone Walker Opal
 Firestone Walker Parabola
 Firestone Walker Union Jack
 Flying Dog Barrel Aged Gonzo
 Flying Dog Bloodline
 Flying Dog Easy IPA
 Flying Dog K9
 Flying Dog Single Hop Amarillo
 Flying Dog The Truth

No Reservations needed.  All beers priced individually. 1/2priced drafts from 5-7pm.- See more at: http://www.eatyourpizza.com/#sthash.F1wlX0Ii.dpuf

Quote from: Yada on May 07, 2014, 01:50:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 01:13:45 pm
I'm guessing it wasn't full because they had the same beers on at Pizza Paradiso in Dupont for half price ($4.50 Parabola, Double DBA, and Sucaba which was missing at Churchkey). Probably a third of the CK price.

Still have some left there, apparently.


Quote from: Yada on May 07, 2014, 09:09:20 am
The Firestone Walker Keg Party at CK was quite awesome... and maybe with the addition of multiple other above average beers bars in the city, CK will start to become a comfy place to hang out at. I arrived at 5:30 and we had three seats at the bar. By the time we left around 8pm, the bar area still wasn't packed at all.

I doubt the cost is the reason and I also doubt Paradiso was selling 10oz pours for $4.50.

I still don't think price has anything to do with it. I don't go to Paradiso out of convenience and the size of their bar. It's a great place if you get there early, but otherwise, you're pretty much screwed for comfort.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 07, 2014, 02:52:08 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 01:27:52 pm
Honestly, I don't know shit about the stock market. I have my 401K in some kind of combined 20 and 30 year fund that grows more conservatively over time. I have the VA 529 College Fund for my kid. Both are doing great over the last couple of years.

My wife manages her own stock stuff. I pay no attention. She also has Target stock. How are they doing?


Quote from: atomic on May 07, 2014, 01:20:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on November 01, 2013, 01:34:13 pm
I bet my wife's Whole Foods stock is a better bet than InBev. Please buy your InBev beer at Whole Foods.

Oh wait, the nanny state of Maryland doesn't allow beer sales in supermarkets. Stupid Maryland.

Whole Foods down 19 percent today.  It might be a good time for your wife to .  buy more stock.  Get at a bargain.  It is funny after you posted this Whole Foods has nose dived while InBev has kept going up.  Whole Foods was way overpriced at the time.  Still overpriced.  I might buy if it drops another 30 percent. Seems like a good company.  Almost no Debt and good ROIC. Lot of competition but their stores are still packed.

Target hasn't done well the past year.  She would have been much better off in your 30 year fund.  My problem with these year based retirement funds is they are just made up of other funds.  So you are paying a management fee in your base fund and then you are paying fees in the funds it buys. Plus they pay hidden fees every time they sell something in the other funds.  Anyway most important thing is you are putting the max in.  Hard not to end up with a lot of money unless you are speculating on stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 07, 2014, 03:34:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 07, 2014, 01:59:16 pm
American Beer Classic
RFK Stadium
July 12 , 2014
American Beer Classic is the ultimate opportunity to celebrate and experience America?s finest beers. Sample and learn from a diverse lineup of breweries while connecting with other beer enthusiasts.
www.americanbeerclassic.com


Looks like a good line-up.  More than you could possibly sample.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2014, 11:29:51 am
May end up having a chance to hit the Surly thing myself. We'll see.

My plan, I think, would be to have a full pour of Abrasive and small pours of Darkness and Pentagram. And get there plenty early for a bar seat.

Any others I "must" drink? I've had Furious and actually detested it.


Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 01:57:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 05, 2014, 12:22:06 pm
Which ones are you (and other boardies) planning on hitting?

My wife and I are doing to Paradiso flower beer thing for lunch Thursday and the Meridian Pint sours for brunch on Sunday.

I'm likely doing the Kuhnhenn thing at Churchkey Friday with a friend or alone.



I'd also like to do the Surly/Churchkey event just so that I could have my first Abrasive, but don't know if I can swing it.

I'd also like to do the old beers thing at Meridian Pint just to have a Sucaba, but think I'll miss that one as well.  The Founders and Stone events look appealing, but likely will miss them too.

Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 10:11:52 am
so... many... beer...events.

Not completely sure yet, but hopefully the Surly or one of the many Firestone Walker events (big hunt, paradiso, or CK).

I wish I was able to do some of the ones that are earlier in the day, but it just ain't in the cards.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 08, 2014, 11:35:01 am
LOL Blue Moon is the first one listed.

Some good breweries and some not so good ones listed.

Really though, it all depends on what beers the breweries are pouring. I mean if Dogfish is pouring 60 Minute and Goose Island is pouring Honkers and Victory is pouring their Prima Pils, and so on, there's hardly any point in going.

Quote from: atomic on May 07, 2014, 03:34:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 07, 2014, 01:59:16 pm
American Beer Classic
RFK Stadium
July 12 , 2014
American Beer Classic is the ultimate opportunity to celebrate and experience America?s finest beers. Sample and learn from a diverse lineup of breweries while connecting with other beer enthusiasts.
www.americanbeerclassic.com


Looks like a good line-up.  More than you could possibly sample.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2014, 12:30:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2014, 11:29:51 am
May end up having a chance to hit the Surly thing myself. We'll see.

My plan, I think, would be to have a full pour of Abrasive and small pours of Darkness and Pentagram. And get there plenty early for a bar seat.

Any others I "must" drink? I've had Furious and actually detested it.


Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 01:57:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 05, 2014, 12:22:06 pm
Which ones are you (and other boardies) planning on hitting?

My wife and I are doing to Paradiso flower beer thing for lunch Thursday and the Meridian Pint sours for brunch on Sunday.

I'm likely doing the Kuhnhenn thing at Churchkey Friday with a friend or alone.



I'd also like to do the Surly/Churchkey event just so that I could have my first Abrasive, but don't know if I can swing it.

I'd also like to do the old beers thing at Meridian Pint just to have a Sucaba, but think I'll miss that one as well.  The Founders and Stone events look appealing, but likely will miss them too.

Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 10:11:52 am
so... many... beer...events.

Not completely sure yet, but hopefully the Surly or one of the many Firestone Walker events (big hunt, paradiso, or CK).

I wish I was able to do some of the ones that are earlier in the day, but it just ain't in the cards.

I haven't had Pentagram, but Darkness is pretty killer as well. I'd go with two full pours of Abrasive!

Unfortunately, I don't think I can make it tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 08:11:25 am
Abrasive, Pentagram, and Darkness all fantastic. Got there before 5, but not a bar seat to be had. I guess they weren't having a duplicate event for half the price at the more conveniently located Dupont Paradiso.

Quote from: Yada on May 08, 2014, 12:30:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2014, 11:29:51 am
May end up having a chance to hit the Surly thing myself. We'll see.

My plan, I think, would be to have a full pour of Abrasive and small pours of Darkness and Pentagram. And get there plenty early for a bar seat.

Any others I "must" drink? I've had Furious and actually detested it.


Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 01:57:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 05, 2014, 12:22:06 pm
Which ones are you (and other boardies) planning on hitting?

My wife and I are doing to Paradiso flower beer thing for lunch Thursday and the Meridian Pint sours for brunch on Sunday.

I'm likely doing the Kuhnhenn thing at Churchkey Friday with a friend or alone.



I'd also like to do the Surly/Churchkey event just so that I could have my first Abrasive, but don't know if I can swing it.

I'd also like to do the old beers thing at Meridian Pint just to have a Sucaba, but think I'll miss that one as well.  The Founders and Stone events look appealing, but likely will miss them too.

Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 10:11:52 am
so... many... beer...events.

Not completely sure yet, but hopefully the Surly or one of the many Firestone Walker events (big hunt, paradiso, or CK).

I wish I was able to do some of the ones that are earlier in the day, but it just ain't in the cards.

I haven't had Pentagram, but Darkness is pretty killer as well. I'd go with two full pours of Abrasive!

Unfortunately, I don't think I can make it tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 09, 2014, 09:00:39 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 08:11:25 am
Abrasive, Pentagram, and Darkness all fantastic. Got there before 5, but not a bar seat to be had. I guess they weren't having a duplicate event for half the price at the more conveniently located Dupont Paradiso.

Quote from: Yada on May 08, 2014, 12:30:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2014, 11:29:51 am
May end up having a chance to hit the Surly thing myself. We'll see.

My plan, I think, would be to have a full pour of Abrasive and small pours of Darkness and Pentagram. And get there plenty early for a bar seat.

Any others I "must" drink? I've had Furious and actually detested it.


Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 01:57:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 05, 2014, 12:22:06 pm
Which ones are you (and other boardies) planning on hitting?

My wife and I are doing to Paradiso flower beer thing for lunch Thursday and the Meridian Pint sours for brunch on Sunday.

I'm likely doing the Kuhnhenn thing at Churchkey Friday with a friend or alone.



I'd also like to do the Surly/Churchkey event just so that I could have my first Abrasive, but don't know if I can swing it.

I'd also like to do the old beers thing at Meridian Pint just to have a Sucaba, but think I'll miss that one as well.  The Founders and Stone events look appealing, but likely will miss them too.

Quote from: Yada on May 05, 2014, 10:11:52 am
so... many... beer...events.

Not completely sure yet, but hopefully the Surly or one of the many Firestone Walker events (big hunt, paradiso, or CK).

I wish I was able to do some of the ones that are earlier in the day, but it just ain't in the cards.

I haven't had Pentagram, but Darkness is pretty killer as well. I'd go with two full pours of Abrasive!

Unfortunately, I don't think I can make it tonight.

More like you were an hour late... the event started at 4pm unlike the Firestone Walker event that started at 6pm.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 09:32:13 am
Fair enough.

Thinking of stopping by for the Kuhnhenn/Maine Beer Company thing today. Maybe that won't be as busy? Maybe more people will be drawn to the "Old" event at Meridian Pint? Who knows. Not quite sure I want to have a 15% blueberry eisbock or a 13% barrel aged barleywine on a day like today though.

I spoke with a couple of CK customers who had come from Rustico in Ballston where they had tapped a barrel aged Cigar City Hunnapau (before the announced time) and it was gone in like 15 mins. Don't these people have jobs?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 09, 2014, 09:39:44 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 09:32:13 am
Fair enough.

Thinking of stopping by for the Kuhnhenn/Maine Beer Company thing today. Maybe that won't be as busy? Maybe more people will be drawn to the "Old" event at Meridian Pint? Who knows. Not quite sure I want to have a 15% blueberry eisbock or a 13% barrel aged barleywine on a day like today though.

I spoke with a couple of CK customers who had come from Rustico in Ballston where they had tapped a barrel aged Cigar City Hunnapau (before the announced time) and it was gone in like 15 mins. Don't these people have jobs?

I wonder the same thing. An old co-worker/friend of mine is on Untappd basically all day long, multiple days a week checking multiple beers in, and not just three or four, like a dozen or more. Last night he was at Rustico, CK, Paradiso, and Scion... and this happens multiple days a week.

I think a lot of beer geeks may be saving up for Savor this evening, so events tonight at local bars may be pretty lowkey... however, it is Friday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 09, 2014, 10:20:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2014, 11:35:01 am
LOL Blue Moon is the first one listed.

Some good breweries and some not so good ones listed.

Really though, it all depends on what beers the breweries are pouring. I mean if Dogfish is pouring 60 Minute and Goose Island is pouring Honkers and Victory is pouring their Prima Pils, and so on, there's hardly any point in going.

Quote from: atomic on May 07, 2014, 03:34:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 07, 2014, 01:59:16 pm
American Beer Classic
RFK Stadium
July 12 , 2014
American Beer Classic is the ultimate opportunity to celebrate and experience America?s finest beers. Sample and learn from a diverse lineup of breweries while connecting with other beer enthusiasts.
www.americanbeerclassic.com


Looks like a good line-up.  More than you could possibly sample.

I am sure there are a lot of breweries on that list that you have never tasted before.  I am sure there are plenty of brews for you to try that you would end up fall down drunk by the end of the event.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 10:34:00 am
I've tried beers from most of the breweries attending (I count 38 breweries I've tried), and I don't see any attending who I want to try and haven't already.

I enjoy sampling new to me beers, but I don't think this festival would have it. Better to just have a bottle share with beer geek friends. I have no desire to ever be fall down drunk.

Still, any festival that has One Trick Pony at it can't be half bad.


Quote from: atomic on May 09, 2014, 10:20:08 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 08, 2014, 11:35:01 am
LOL Blue Moon is the first one listed.

Some good breweries and some not so good ones listed.

Really though, it all depends on what beers the breweries are pouring. I mean if Dogfish is pouring 60 Minute and Goose Island is pouring Honkers and Victory is pouring their Prima Pils, and so on, there's hardly any point in going.

Quote from: atomic on May 07, 2014, 03:34:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 07, 2014, 01:59:16 pm
American Beer Classic
RFK Stadium
July 12 , 2014
American Beer Classic is the ultimate opportunity to celebrate and experience America?s finest beers. Sample and learn from a diverse lineup of breweries while connecting with other beer enthusiasts.
www.americanbeerclassic.com


Looks like a good line-up.  More than you could possibly sample.

I am sure there are a lot of breweries on that list that you have never tasted before.  I am sure there are plenty of brews for you to try that you would end up fall down drunk by the end of the event.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on May 09, 2014, 11:36:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 10:34:00 am
I've tried beers from most of the breweries attending (I count 38 breweries I've tried), and I don't see any attending who I want to try and haven't already.

There's 93 breweries listed. 38 of 93 isn't most. Other than the few ciders, how do you know by seeing that you won't like it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 09, 2014, 01:15:30 pm
Quote from: slappy on May 09, 2014, 11:36:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 10:34:00 am
I've tried beers from most of the breweries attending (I count 38 breweries I've tried), and I don't see any attending who I want to try and haven't already.

There's 93 breweries listed. 38 of 93 isn't most. Other than the few ciders, how do you know by seeing that you won't like it?

He likes to be disagreeable. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Ok, name 10 breweries to get excited about in that list of 93.

If I made a list of my 25 favorite breweries , I see maybe 4 there that would make my list.

If I made a list of 10 breweries who I've heard/read good things about but haven't tried and would most want to try, I don't see any of them there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 09, 2014, 01:58:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Ok, name 10 breweries to get excited about in that list of 93.

If I made a list of my 25 favorite breweries , I see maybe 4 there that would make my list.

If I made a list of 10 breweries who I've heard/read good things about but haven't tried and would most want to try, I don't see any of them there.

Why would you want your favorite breweries to be there if you are complaining about not getting to drink anything new?  Your logic defies reason.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 02:10:31 pm
Some of my favorite breweries don't ship locally. If they were there, and bringing their best and/or rare beers, I'd be interested.

I'm talking about Russian River, Alpine, Hair of the Dog, Crooked Stave, the Alchemist, Hill Farmstead, Three Floyds, Lost Abbey, Surly, etc.

Quote from: atomic on May 09, 2014, 01:58:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Ok, name 10 breweries to get excited about in that list of 93.

If I made a list of my 25 favorite breweries , I see maybe 4 there that would make my list.

If I made a list of 10 breweries who I've heard/read good things about but haven't tried and would most want to try, I don't see any of them there.

Why would you want your favorite breweries to be there if you are complaining about not getting to drink anything new?  Your logic defies reason.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 09, 2014, 02:34:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 02:10:31 pm
Some of my favorite breweries don't ship locally. If they were there, and bringing their best and/or rare beers, I'd be interested.

I'm talking about Russian River, Alpine, Hair of the Dog, Crooked Stave, the Alchemist, Hill Farmstead, Three Floyds, Lost Abbey, Surly, etc.

Quote from: atomic on May 09, 2014, 01:58:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Ok, name 10 breweries to get excited about in that list of 93.

If I made a list of my 25 favorite breweries , I see maybe 4 there that would make my list.

If I made a list of 10 breweries who I've heard/read good things about but haven't tried and would most want to try, I don't see any of them there.

Why would you want your favorite breweries to be there if you are complaining about not getting to drink anything new?  Your logic defies reason.

Why would a brewery that doesn't ship to DC appear at a beer festival in DC? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 02:42:13 pm
I don't really know the answer to that one. And the answer could depend on what brewery you're talking about.

However, there are a number of breweries on that list that don't ship to DC. There are also a number of breweries at the SAVOR festival in DC this weekend who don't ship to DC.



Quote from: atomic on May 09, 2014, 02:34:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 02:10:31 pm
Some of my favorite breweries don't ship locally. If they were there, and bringing their best and/or rare beers, I'd be interested.

I'm talking about Russian River, Alpine, Hair of the Dog, Crooked Stave, the Alchemist, Hill Farmstead, Three Floyds, Lost Abbey, Surly, etc.

Quote from: atomic on May 09, 2014, 01:58:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Ok, name 10 breweries to get excited about in that list of 93.

If I made a list of my 25 favorite breweries , I see maybe 4 there that would make my list.

If I made a list of 10 breweries who I've heard/read good things about but haven't tried and would most want to try, I don't see any of them there.

Why would you want your favorite breweries to be there if you are complaining about not getting to drink anything new?  Your logic defies reason.

Why would a brewery that doesn't ship to DC appear at a beer festival in DC? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 11, 2014, 09:40:30 am
Had the Flying Dog old bay beer at the ball game last night.  Not too bad.  Old bay taste is very mild.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 01:15:21 pm
Not that anyone cares at this point, but I clicked on the link to that beer festival, and the breweries listed were the ones that had participated in the Chicago version of the fest.

So who knows what breweries will participate in the DC Fest. Likely many of the breweries who ship to Chicago but not DC would drop out, and vice versa (?)

Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 02:42:13 pm
I don't really know the answer to that one. And the answer could depend on what brewery you're talking about.

However, there are a number of breweries on that list that don't ship to DC. There are also a number of breweries at the SAVOR festival in DC this weekend who don't ship to DC.



Quote from: atomic on May 09, 2014, 02:34:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 02:10:31 pm
Some of my favorite breweries don't ship locally. If they were there, and bringing their best and/or rare beers, I'd be interested.

I'm talking about Russian River, Alpine, Hair of the Dog, Crooked Stave, the Alchemist, Hill Farmstead, Three Floyds, Lost Abbey, Surly, etc.

Quote from: atomic on May 09, 2014, 01:58:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Ok, name 10 breweries to get excited about in that list of 93.

If I made a list of my 25 favorite breweries , I see maybe 4 there that would make my list.

If I made a list of 10 breweries who I've heard/read good things about but haven't tried and would most want to try, I don't see any of them there.

Why would you want your favorite breweries to be there if you are complaining about not getting to drink anything new?  Your logic defies reason.

Why would a brewery that doesn't ship to DC appear at a beer festival in DC? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hexenjagd on May 12, 2014, 01:39:17 pm
Quote from: atomic on May 11, 2014, 09:40:30 am
Had the Flying Dog old bay beer at the ball game last night.  Not too bad.  Old bay taste is very mild.
I cant wait to try it... I think maybe for the first boat outing of the season. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 03:04:38 pm
Most of Flying Dog's beers are pretty mediocre IMO, but I tried a Barrel Aged Gonzo on draft over the weekend, and it was quite good. The regular Gonzo and the Truth are the only other Flying Dog beers I've tried that rose above mediocrity.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on May 12, 2014, 03:10:50 pm
I cannot stand Flying Dog's beers for the most part.  Judge's Bench did have one of their limited edition beers on Firkin a few weeks back and it was the only one I've ever had that wasn't awful.

I did manage to finally find John Smiths at Perfect Pour!  First time I'd seen that in the US
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 12, 2014, 03:43:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 03:04:38 pm
Most of Flying Dog's beers are pretty mediocre IMO, but I tried a Barrel Aged Gonzo on draft over the weekend, and it was quite good. The regular Gonzo and the Truth are the only other Flying Dog beers I've tried that rose above mediocrity.

Woody Creek is pretty good.  I hate Gonzo.  Bought a six pack and ended giving it away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hexenjagd on May 12, 2014, 03:56:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 03:04:38 pm
Most of Flying Dog's beers are pretty mediocre IMO, but I tried a Barrel Aged Gonzo on draft over the weekend, and it was quite good. The regular Gonzo and the Truth are the only other Flying Dog beers I've tried that rose above mediocrity.
But did you try the new Old Bay one?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 12, 2014, 04:01:32 pm
Quote from: Hexenjagd on May 12, 2014, 03:56:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 03:04:38 pm
Most of Flying Dog's beers are pretty mediocre IMO, but I tried a Barrel Aged Gonzo on draft over the weekend, and it was quite good. The regular Gonzo and the Truth are the only other Flying Dog beers I've tried that rose above mediocrity.
But did you try the new Old Bay one?

My exact thoughts.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 05:17:29 pm
It definitely doesn't sound like it's my thing, but if someone buys me one, I'll drink it with an open mind.

Quote from: Hexenjagd on May 12, 2014, 03:56:34 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 03:04:38 pm
Most of Flying Dog's beers are pretty mediocre IMO, but I tried a Barrel Aged Gonzo on draft over the weekend, and it was quite good. The regular Gonzo and the Truth are the only other Flying Dog beers I've tried that rose above mediocrity.
But did you try the new Old Bay one?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 12, 2014, 05:56:31 pm
raging bitch IPA is unique and delicious.  gonzo and barrel-aged gonzo are also very good in a very underated beer style (baltic porter). 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hexenjagd on May 12, 2014, 08:49:51 pm
The liquor store near my house is getting some in the morning, so it looks like tomorrow will be tasting day.  The guys at the shop laughed when I asked and said every five minutes someone came in and asked for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 12, 2014, 08:59:13 pm
Quote from: Hexenjagd on May 12, 2014, 08:49:51 pm
The liquor store near my house is getting some in the morning, so it looks like tomorrow will be tasting day.  The guys at the shop laughed when I asked and said every five minutes someone came in and asked for it.

I bought a sixer at the 7 11 in Fallston in Harford county yesterday.. Strange place to.find it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 09:03:20 pm
Raging Bitch is a solid B+ in my book, so that puts it above mediocrity as well. Used to be more ofa fan, don't really buy it anymore...

Quote from: stevewizzle on May 12, 2014, 05:56:31 pm
raging bitch IPA is unique and delicious.  gonzo and barrel-aged gonzo are also very good in a very underated beer style (baltic porter). 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 12, 2014, 09:30:50 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 09:03:20 pm
Raging Bitch is a solid B+ in my book, so that puts it above mediocrity as well. Used to be more ofa fan, don't really buy it anymore...

Quote from: stevewizzle on May 12, 2014, 05:56:31 pm
raging bitch IPA is unique and delicious.  gonzo and barrel-ag
ed gonzo are also very good in a very underated beer style (baltic porter). 

I don't care for Raging Bitch either.  You have bad taste in Beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hexenjagd on May 13, 2014, 01:13:59 pm
Thank goodness I can work from home on certain days;  I went and grabbed two six packs on my lunch break earlier, and the guy at the liquor store said he was going to be sold out by this evening.  I cant try it yet though... Also, that Steadman crab is so great...
(http://photos-c.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-prn/10261282_300214796807898_1917363154_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 13, 2014, 02:03:00 pm
Quote from: Hexenjagd on May 13, 2014, 01:13:59 pm
Thank goodness I can work from home on certain days;  I went and grabbed two six packs on my lunch break earlier, and the guy at the liquor store said he was going to be sold out by this evening.  I cant try it yet though... Also, that Steadman crab is so great...
(http://photos-c.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-prn/10261282_300214796807898_1917363154_n.jpg)

I have a hunch you'll have no issues finding that beer on every shelf in MD in no time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 13, 2014, 03:30:55 pm
I thought you didn't drink?

Or do you go by Woody Grant's motto that "Beer aint drinkin'."

Quote from: Hexenjagd on May 13, 2014, 01:13:59 pm
Thank goodness I can work from home on certain days;  I went and grabbed two six packs on my lunch break earlier, and the guy at the liquor store said he was going to be sold out by this evening.  I cant try it yet though... Also, that Steadman crab is so great...
(http://photos-c.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-prn/10261282_300214796807898_1917363154_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hexenjagd on May 13, 2014, 03:40:49 pm
I am pretty sure I never said I don't drink at all.  I probably said I rarely drink/get drunk. 

I will have one to three beers at maybe 1 in every 7 shows that I attend.  I also drink beer every time that I go to my fiance's parent's house (most Sunday nights) and also every time I go out on her dad's boat (which is usually about once a weekend during the summer).  But I rarely drink more than four on any of those occasions, unless it is a dock party for their neighborhood, or something like that.

At least two board members have seen me in my partial beer buzz happiness mode. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 13, 2014, 03:42:21 pm
I still want some insight into az taking LSD and how that works being blind.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 16, 2014, 06:02:45 pm
so it looks like i'm going to tomorrow's Nats vs. Mets game at Nationals Park.  in terms of a decent beverage option, what do i need to know?  or, more importantly, where do i need to go?  apparently we have club suite tix (but i'm certainly not opposed to walking around the park for a decent beer).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 16, 2014, 10:20:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 16, 2014, 06:02:45 pm
so it looks like i'm going to tomorrow's Nats vs. Mets game at Nationals Park.  in terms of a decent beverage option, what do i need to know?  or, more importantly, where do i need to go?  apparently we have club suite tix (but i'm certainly not opposed to walking around the park for a decent beer).

There's not much leaving your section for in my opinion. I'd recommend the Coors Banquet Brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 16, 2014, 10:35:45 pm
Nats Park beer map.

http://thenationalsreview.com/the-nationals-park-beer-guide/


Also, you can bring in your own food.


Quote from: sweetcell on May 16, 2014, 06:02:45 pm
so it looks like i'm going to tomorrow's Nats vs. Mets game at Nationals Park.  in terms of a decent beverage option, what do i need to know?  or, more importantly, where do i need to go?  apparently we have club suite tix (but i'm certainly not opposed to walking around the park for a decent beer).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dyecraig on May 17, 2014, 12:33:28 pm
Old Bust Head Brewing Co. (OBH) out my way makes an excellent E.P.A. and has free tours and tastings on Fridays, Saturdays & Sundays.  Picked up some nice etched glasses and they just make it taste that much better.
www.oldbusthead.com (http://www.oldbusthead.com)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 17, 2014, 02:52:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 16, 2014, 10:35:45 pm
Nats Park beer map.

http://thenationalsreview.com/the-nationals-park-beer-guide/


Also, you can bring in your own food.


Quote from: sweetcell on May 16, 2014, 06:02:45 pm
so it looks like i'm going to tomorrow's Nats vs. Mets game at Nationals Park.  in terms of a decent beverage option, what do i need to know?  or, more importantly, where do i need to go?  apparently we have club suite tix (but i'm certainly not opposed to walking around the park for a decent beer).

the only place in the world with an abundancy of coors og
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 18, 2014, 08:24:48 am
Especially for the Seattle boardies:

The great beer bar Toronado opening a branch in Seattle:

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/toronado-seattle.177649/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 18, 2014, 07:29:24 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 18, 2014, 08:24:48 am
Especially for the Seattle boardies:

The great beer bar Toronado opening a branch in Seattle:

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/toronado-seattle.177649/

i saw that.  post on that BA forum sometimes. tag is ballardbeer. the PNW forum is really the only thing i follow, i really can't stand the rest of the web-site.

the toronado expansion doesn't really make any sense to me, location and whatnot, but sure, i'll take it.  matt bonney is running it, so i'm assuming it's just another brouwers/bottleworks-style establishment.

the neighborhood, roosevelt, i would liken to takoma park.  a pain to get to, really not much around, but a nice place to live.  honestly i'd be surprised if i made it up there much... brouwers and pine box fullfills most of my needs.  fucking brouwers had a keg of deviation on tap last week.  one of the bigger whales out there, though likely past it's prime now. also had HOTD Matt a few months back, both PNC variations, deal with the devil, rare angels share batches... you get the picture.  there's also stumbling monk, six gill, uber, noble fir, burgundian, wurst place, chucks, beveridge place, a dozen or so tasting rooms at breweries all a lot more conveniently located.  i'd rather find myself at any of those places, that is, assuming the new toronado does not have russian river, alpine, or other high-demand california breweries.  if they do... well shit, i'll move to roosevelt.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on May 19, 2014, 10:13:43 am
I drank massive quantities of beer on Friday night with my intern.  Got home at 1:30 and wife was angry all weekend.  Don't remember the types of beer drunk and there might have been a shot of whiskey and teqila thrown in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 19, 2014, 10:17:57 am
Quote from: atomic on May 19, 2014, 10:13:43 am
I drank massive quantities of beer on Friday night with my intern.  Got home at 1:30 and wife was angry all weekend.  Don't remember the types of beer drunk and there might have been a shot of whiskey and teqila thrown in.
I think you meant to post this in the things smackie thinks you should know thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 19, 2014, 11:56:33 am
3 Stars is finally releasing their first Illuminati bottles this week after the labeling issues.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 19, 2014, 12:12:02 pm
in  a month or two i might be inheriting an Illuminati membership from a buddy who is moving away.  fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 19, 2014, 12:18:15 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 19, 2014, 12:12:02 pm
in  a month or two i might be inheriting an Illuminati membership from a buddy who is moving away.  fingers crossed.
Again, you know nothing of our organization, and if you did you wouldn't be posting about it. This isn't how any of this works.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 19, 2014, 01:14:11 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 19, 2014, 12:12:02 pm
in  a month or two i might be inheriting an Illuminati membership from a buddy who is moving away.  fingers crossed.

Nice... hopefully they'll let him transfer it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.

Also, I was down at Yards Park on Friday night and Blue Jacket is now selling 750ml bottles of at least a dozen or so of their beers at reasonable prices, had a few tasty ones including their Mexican Radio and Twit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 01:22:45 pm
I picked up two bottles of Twit to go after the game yesterday. Haven't tried it. Nor did I eat or drink at Arsemal (still haven't)

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 01:14:11 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 19, 2014, 12:12:02 pm
in  a month or two i might be inheriting an Illuminati membership from a buddy who is moving away.  fingers crossed.

Nice... hopefully they'll let him transfer it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.

Also, I was down at Yards Park on Friday night and Blue Jacket is now selling 750ml bottles of at least a dozen or so of their beers at reasonable prices, had a few tasty ones including their Mexican Radio and Twit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 01:26:26 pm
We did eat at Matchbox, where the highest priced beer on the menu was the 3 Stars Lemon Saison. For $8. (by comparison, an Ommegang Rare Vos was $6, a Flying Dog Raging Bitch was $5, Two Hearted was $6).

We asked about serving sizes, and the server told us "I think everything is in pints, except the 3 Stars".

Wow, local beer which is more than twice the price of out of town beers. 3 Stars must really be amazing.

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 11:56:33 am
3 Stars is finally releasing their first Illuminati bottles this week after the labeling issues.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 19, 2014, 02:09:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 01:26:26 pm
We did eat at Matchbox, where the highest priced beer on the menu was the 3 Stars Lemon Saison. For $8. (by comparison, an Ommegang Rare Vos was $6, a Flying Dog Raging Bitch was $5, Two Hearted was $6).

We asked about serving sizes, and the server told us "I think everything is in pints, except the 3 Stars".

Wow, local beer which is more than twice the price of out of town beers. 3 Stars must really be amazing.

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 11:56:33 am
3 Stars is finally releasing their first Illuminati bottles this week after the labeling issues.


(http://mksiemionko.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/debbie-downer.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 02:13:41 pm
I'm not sure what the chick from Girls has to do with a mediocre local brewery.

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 02:09:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 01:26:26 pm
We did eat at Matchbox, where the highest priced beer on the menu was the 3 Stars Lemon Saison. For $8. (by comparison, an Ommegang Rare Vos was $6, a Flying Dog Raging Bitch was $5, Two Hearted was $6).

We asked about serving sizes, and the server told us "I think everything is in pints, except the 3 Stars".

Wow, local beer which is more than twice the price of out of town beers. 3 Stars must really be amazing.

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 11:56:33 am
3 Stars is finally releasing their first Illuminati bottles this week after the labeling issues.


(http://mksiemionko.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/debbie-downer.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 19, 2014, 02:15:52 pm
Lena is so brave.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 19, 2014, 02:22:58 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 02:13:41 pm
I'm not sure what the chick from Girls has to do with a mediocre local brewery.

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 02:09:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 01:26:26 pm
We did eat at Matchbox, where the highest priced beer on the menu was the 3 Stars Lemon Saison. For $8. (by comparison, an Ommegang Rare Vos was $6, a Flying Dog Raging Bitch was $5, Two Hearted was $6).

We asked about serving sizes, and the server told us "I think everything is in pints, except the 3 Stars".

Wow, local beer which is more than twice the price of out of town beers. 3 Stars must really be amazing.

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 11:56:33 am
3 Stars is finally releasing their first Illuminati bottles this week after the labeling issues.


(http://mksiemionko.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/debbie-downer.png)
Im sure it'll involve unexplainable nudity. She probably spills beer on herself and decides to do the rest of her visit nude.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 19, 2014, 02:27:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 02:13:41 pm
I'm not sure what the chick from Girls has to do with a mediocre local brewery.


Just because you're cheap doesn't make it a mediocre brewery by the way. I'd argue that its' the best in DC. I see sixers of DC Brau for upwards of $14 a six pack in some places around the city/MD. 

Also, from what I've read, 3 Stars handles all distribution on their own which may add that extra dollar or two at whatever already overpriced bar is serving pints.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 02:33:08 pm
And women the world over will feel empowered because of it.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on May 19, 2014, 02:22:58 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 02:13:41 pm
I'm not sure what the chick from Girls has to do with a mediocre local brewery.

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 02:09:13 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 01:26:26 pm
We did eat at Matchbox, where the highest priced beer on the menu was the 3 Stars Lemon Saison. For $8. (by comparison, an Ommegang Rare Vos was $6, a Flying Dog Raging Bitch was $5, Two Hearted was $6).

We asked about serving sizes, and the server told us "I think everything is in pints, except the 3 Stars".

Wow, local beer which is more than twice the price of out of town beers. 3 Stars must really be amazing.

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 11:56:33 am
3 Stars is finally releasing their first Illuminati bottles this week after the labeling issues.


(http://mksiemionko.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/debbie-downer.png)
Im sure it'll involve unexplainable nudity. She probably spills beer on herself and decides to do the rest of her visit nude.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 02:34:26 pm
I can get better beer for cheaper. That doesn't make me cheap, it makes me smart. Every dollar saved on a beer is a dollar more in the college fund.

Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 02:27:23 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 02:13:41 pm
I'm not sure what the chick from Girls has to do with a mediocre local brewery.


Just because you're cheap doesn't make it a mediocre brewery by the way. I'd argue that its' the best in DC. I see sixers of DC Brau for upwards of $14 a six pack in some places around the city/MD. 

Also, from what I've read, 3 Stars handles all distribution on their own which may add that extra dollar or two at whatever already overpriced bar is serving pints.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 02:39:44 pm
"Best brewery in DC".

LOL, that's like saying "So and so is the best politician in DC."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 19, 2014, 03:39:48 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 19, 2014, 01:14:11 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 19, 2014, 12:12:02 pm
in  a month or two i might be inheriting an Illuminati membership from a buddy who is moving away.  fingers crossed.

Nice... hopefully they'll let him transfer it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.

crap, you might be right... from their FAQ:

Is my membership transferable or refundable?
No, all memberships are issued to an individual and are linked solely to that individual.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on May 19, 2014, 06:49:27 pm
(https://sp2.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608026447103332314&pid=15.1)

Is this beer rated or even discussed? A bodega-style store near my house sells it and I've been enjoying it a lot. I'm more of a brown ale than an IPA man, but a good drink is a good drink. I get a little tired of the "good beer' stores having a billion IPAs and 4 dark/brown ales, but the "Ram's Head" element caught my attention and I tried it, to my subsequent delight!

Hey James, see how I'm actually speaking to the thread topic and not being all "oh tee hee I am so veddy witty" [bites pinky] douchy in your beer thread?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 07:53:11 pm
It's rated here:

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/fordham-rams-head-ipa/197435/

72nd percentile for all beers, 43rd percentile for all IPA's.

Never heard of it. It appears it's called Rams Head because it's associated with the music venues.

http://www.ramsheadgroup.com/2013/01/02/rams-head-ipa-coming-january-17-2013/

Fordham is minority owned by Anheuiser-Buschm fwiw. They handle the distribution. Probably why you found it at a bodega style store.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Dominion_Brewing_Company



Quote from: Relaxer on May 19, 2014, 06:49:27 pm
(https://sp2.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608026447103332314&pid=15.1)

Is this beer rated or even discussed? A bodega-style store near my house sells it and I've been enjoying it a lot. I'm more of a brown ale than an IPA man, but a good drink is a good drink. I get a little tired of the "good beer' stores having a billion IPAs and 4 dark/brown ales, but the "Ram's Head" element caught my attention and I tried it, to my subsequent delight!

Hey James, see how I'm actually speaking to the thread topic and not being all "oh tee hee I am so veddy witty" [bites pinky] douchy in your beer thread?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on May 19, 2014, 07:57:29 pm
Well they certainly favor stouts on that RateBeer site.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 19, 2014, 09:32:09 pm
It has an 81 on BA: http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4067/89046/

Can't say that I've ever heard either. Glad to hear you're enjoying it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 19, 2014, 09:35:48 pm
I've definitely found that to be true. Whereas beeradvocate.com has an ipa love affair going.

Quote from: Relaxer on May 19, 2014, 07:57:29 pm
Well they certainly favor stouts on that RateBeer site.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 19, 2014, 11:49:06 pm
all i know is the backstage lounge at rams head comes with a 6-pack of these bad boys.  it's rams head live's official beer, or something.  they also serve a single layer cake, provide a veggie platter, and have wifi.  it's quite nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 20, 2014, 11:35:54 am
The entire weekend of the Vermont beer fest sold out in ten minutes this year... I'm glad I got to attend last year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 20, 2014, 10:03:24 pm
Having one of these right now. Strange beer. A bit boozy. Ultimately, good stuff. Brother sent it for birthday (2012?2013? can't recall) Too bad it was a one off. Will probably never have another.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/deschutes-conflux-no-1--collage/168450/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 20, 2014, 10:42:46 pm
says that is has The Dissident in it - any sourness?

james, you've been quoting RateBeer a lot recently... has BA fallen in your esteem?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 20, 2014, 11:24:20 pm
A bit of sourness, but not really mouth puckering.

I like the percentiles on ratebeer. For example, Budweiser scores a 0 on ratebeer, and a 56 on beer advocate. A Stella scores a 13 on ratebeer (90 for its style). The beer advocate score in 71.

Percentiles just make more sense to me and are more telling. The Beer Advocate numbers are meaningless.


Quote from: sweetcell on May 20, 2014, 10:42:46 pm
says that is has The Dissident in it - any sourness?

james, you've been quoting RateBeer a lot recently... has BA fallen in your esteem?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 21, 2014, 08:44:59 am
tried an above mediocre grade beer at 3 Stars last night - Queen of the Damned (a Knob Creek Rye Barrel-aged version of the 3 Stars Southern Belle). Pretty, pretty tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 21, 2014, 11:19:13 am
[Sounds like your $100 was well spent.

quote author=Yada link=topic=19630.msg387267#msg387267 date=1400676299]
tried an above mediocre grade beer at 3 Stars last night - Queen of the Damned (a Knob Creek Rye Barrel-aged version of the 3 Stars Southern Belle). Pretty, pretty tasty.
[/quote]
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 21, 2014, 11:31:06 am
I agree.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 21, 2014, 12:28:04 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 20, 2014, 10:03:24 pm
Having one of these right now. Strange beer. A bit boozy. Ultimately, good stuff. Brother sent it for birthday (2012?2013? can't recall) Too bad it was a one off. Will probably never have another.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/deschutes-conflux-no-1--collage/168450/



i see it in gas stations, i wouldn't go that far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 21, 2014, 12:55:47 pm
Did they continue making it? Mine was probably two years old.

I just went to the gas station and checked...they were all out.


Quote from: stevewizzle on May 21, 2014, 12:28:04 pm
Quote from: James Ford on May 20, 2014, 10:03:24 pm
Having one of these right now. Strange beer. A bit boozy. Ultimately, good stuff. Brother sent it for birthday (2012?2013? can't recall) Too bad it was a one off. Will probably never have another.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/deschutes-conflux-no-1--collage/168450/



i see it in gas stations, i wouldn't go that far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 21, 2014, 02:52:05 pm
200 barrels is pretty limited, but i think it comes with a high price tag so it just doesn't sell.  maybe they had another release to distribution... who knows.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 22, 2014, 12:44:19 pm
I've never seen this brew local... any good? I grabbed a four pack for the weekend.

Sun King Osiris Pale Ale

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2014, 01:02:03 pm
virtual brewery tours/beer porn:

Dieu du Ciel: http://brewbokeh.com/place-dieuduciel.html
Cantillon: http://brewbokeh.com/place-cantillon.html
Firestone Walker: http://brewbokeh.com/place-firestonewalker.html

additional breweries at the bottom of each page... drool.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 02, 2014, 01:11:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 22, 2014, 12:44:19 pm
I've never seen this brew local... any good? I grabbed a four pack for the weekend.

Sun King Osiris Pale Ale



Not good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 02, 2014, 01:18:41 pm
had another nice sour from Bluejacket over the weekend....Rheinard De Vos. Would drink again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 01:22:56 pm
You're going to call me a Debbie Downer...I had a bottle of Bluejacket Twit last weekend...then had a glass of Goose Island Madame Rose and a bottle of  the Bruery Sour in the Rye this weekend, and...Bluejacket still has a ways to go.  ;)

Quote from: Yada on June 02, 2014, 01:18:41 pm
had another nice sour from Bluejacket over the weekend....Rheinard De Vos. Would drink again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 02, 2014, 02:52:35 pm
you know who is making really impressive sours these days? almanac.  if you ever get the chance to get some in a trade... jump on that opportunity. i'd go so far as to say i'd skip over almost all of russian river's sours (save for beat) in order to get almanac.

i just sent sweetcell a bottle of valley of the heart's delight, so he might be able to chime in soon enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2014, 02:55:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 01:22:56 pm
I had a bottle of Bluejacket Twit last weekend...then had a glass of Goose Island Madame Rose and a bottle of  the Bruery Sour in the Rye this weekend, and...Bluejacket still has a ways to go.  ;)

slightly unfair compasion, doncha think?  twit is a small beer (low alcohol), mild, and only slightly sour.  comparing it to a flanders red, and whatever hell SitR is, is apples to oranges.  they're almost twice as strong and intend to put sourness front and center.

"sour" is a wide category.  those beers share the label but doesn't mean we can directly compare them.  it's like comparing a 4.5% session porter to a 10% barrel-aged imperial stout because they're both dark roasty ales.

that madame rose was damn delicious.  too bad those beers take over a year to age out, and are priced accordingly... otherwise i would be drinking a lot more of this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2014, 03:14:17 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 02, 2014, 02:52:35 pm
i just sent sweetcell a bottle of valley of the heart's delight, so he might be able to chime in soon enough.

or i might just age it in the cellar for a while and keep you all in suspense   ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 03:37:53 pm
Ok then the Twit was like drinking a Port City IPA whereas Sour in the Rye is like drinking Heady. There's my comparison. I have any extra Twit that you're going to get to try.  ;) Hopefully it will be more like a Union Jack for you than a Port City IPA, if I continue the analogy.

Quote from: sweetcell on June 02, 2014, 02:55:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 01:22:56 pm
I had a bottle of Bluejacket Twit last weekend...then had a glass of Goose Island Madame Rose and a bottle of  the Bruery Sour in the Rye this weekend, and...Bluejacket still has a ways to go.  ;)

slightly unfair compasion, doncha think?  twit is a small beer (low alcohol), mild, and only slightly sour.  comparing it to a flanders red, and whatever hell SitR is, is apples to oranges.  they're almost twice as strong and intend to put sourness front and center.

"sour" is a wide category.  those beers share the label but doesn't mean we can directly compare them.  it's like comparing a 4.5% session porter to a 10% barrel-aged imperial stout because they're both dark roasty ales.

that madame rose was damn delicious.  too bad those beers take over a year to age out, and are priced accordingly... otherwise i would be drinking a lot more of this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 02, 2014, 03:38:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 02, 2014, 03:14:17 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 02, 2014, 02:52:35 pm
i just sent sweetcell a bottle of valley of the heart's delight, so he might be able to chime in soon enough.

or i might just age it in the cellar for a while and keep you all in suspense   ;D

it's a great summer beer.  do what you want, but i'd drink it either now or hold off until next summer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 03:39:18 pm
I had a friend bring me back a bottle from San Diego a couple of months ago.

 
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 02, 2014, 02:52:35 pm
you know who is making really impressive sours these days? almanac.  if you ever get the chance to get some in a trade... jump on that opportunity. i'd go so far as to say i'd skip over almost all of russian river's sours (save for beat) in order to get almanac.

i just sent sweetcell a bottle of valley of the heart's delight, so he might be able to chime in soon enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 02, 2014, 04:28:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 03:39:18 pm
I had a friend bring me back a bottle from San Diego a couple of months ago.

 
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 02, 2014, 02:52:35 pm
you know who is making really impressive sours these days? almanac.  if you ever get the chance to get some in a trade... jump on that opportunity. i'd go so far as to say i'd skip over almost all of russian river's sours (save for beat) in order to get almanac.

i just sent sweetcell a bottle of valley of the heart's delight, so he might be able to chime in soon enough.

valley? or something else? they've had 5 or 6 released this year, ranging from good to excellent. u drink it yet, or are you storing it in your bomb shelter/beer cellar?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 08:20:52 pm
Dogpatch. Haven't drank yet.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 02, 2014, 04:28:30 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 03:39:18 pm
I had a friend bring me back a bottle from San Diego a couple of months ago.

 
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 02, 2014, 02:52:35 pm
you know who is making really impressive sours these days? almanac.  if you ever get the chance to get some in a trade... jump on that opportunity. i'd go so far as to say i'd skip over almost all of russian river's sours (save for beat) in order to get almanac.

i just sent sweetcell a bottle of valley of the heart's delight, so he might be able to chime in soon enough.

valley? or something else? they've had 5 or 6 released this year, ranging from good to excellent. u drink it yet, or are you storing it in your bomb shelter/beer cellar?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 11:07:49 am
oh my.

http://deadspin.com/harry-caray-went-out-drinking-288-straight-days-in-1972-1585102309

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 04, 2014, 12:37:54 am
(http://i.imgur.com/NiqFupv.jpg)

the hookup from sweetcell. seriously sexy box, you guys.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 05, 2014, 04:07:36 pm
via hoya's FB page: lol

THE SILVER BULLET DIARY
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-silver-bullet-diary
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 06, 2014, 10:02:03 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 04, 2014, 12:37:54 am
the hookup from sweetcell.

the reply from wizzle:

(http://i.imgur.com/wfdJ8Vy.jpg)

fred!!!

and the dissident: the first sour that really got me excited, thanks to Mr. Ford several moons ago.  can't wait to try it again.

the cellar just got a hell of a lot weight... thanks steve!

(full disclosure: one Parabola will be passed on to a mutual friend... maybe)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 06, 2014, 10:13:57 pm
cameo appearance by saltine crackers.

fremont's the brother might steal the show in that package, depending on how well it held up. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 06, 2014, 10:25:01 pm
Sorry to thread jack, but this is awesome and if anyone wants to do an amaro/vermouth/cordial swap with me, pls PM.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 12:48:19 pm
We headed out to Shenandoah this past weekend for some hiking and camping (twice I had to pull off ticks that were crawling up my leg and also found a few more in my tent in the morning...fun, fun) and quite naturally had to check out a couple of breweries on the route.

Saturday we stopped at Heritage Brewing in Manassas. www.heritagebrewing.com My wife was very enthusiastic about them, and I though they were solid. Eight beers on draft, and I'd say five of them were winners. Looks like they may have a barrel aging program in the works.

Sunday we stopped at Old Busthead in Warrenton. www.oldbusthead.com My wife and I both agreed the four beers they had on draft were all pretty weak. Their IPA was so bad that I enjoyed their pilsner more (something that would generally never happen). One of the women pouring beer squinted and read my DC Brau t-shirt and commented that she "never heard of them". Really? Really? You're less than 50 miles from DC Brau and you're working at a brewery and you've never heard of DC Brau? She had to be someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 09, 2014, 01:52:28 pm
ticks are bad this year.  so is beer.  stop drinking it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 12:48:19 pm
We headed out to Shenandoah this past weekend for some hiking and camping (twice I had to pull off ticks that were crawling up my leg and also found a few more in my tent in the morning...fun, fun) and quite naturally had to check out a couple of breweries on the route.

Saturday we stopped at Heritage Brewing in Manassas. www.heritagebrewing.com My wife was very enthusiastic about them, and I though they were solid. Eight beers on draft, and I'd say five of them were winners. Looks like they may have a barrel aging program in the works.

Sunday we stopped at Old Busthead in Warrenton. www.oldbusthead.com My wife and I both agreed the four beers they had on draft were all pretty weak. Their IPA was so bad that I enjoyed their pilsner more (something that would generally never happen). One of the women pouring beer squinted and read my DC Brau t-shirt and commented that she "never heard of them". Really? Really? You're less than 50 miles from DC Brau and you're working at a brewery and you've never heard of DC Brau? She had to be someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday..

DC Brau isn't a well known brewery.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 09, 2014, 02:32:23 pm
I'll second that, ticks are all over the place this year.

I have high hopes friends... and nice to see they're only focusing on a handful of beers vs. 30 when they open.

http://dc.eater.com/archives/2014/06/09/bbq-bus-to-open-restaurant-at-denizens-brewery.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 09, 2014, 02:33:21 pm
Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 12:48:19 pm
We headed out to Shenandoah this past weekend for some hiking and camping (twice I had to pull off ticks that were crawling up my leg and also found a few more in my tent in the morning...fun, fun) and quite naturally had to check out a couple of breweries on the route.

Saturday we stopped at Heritage Brewing in Manassas. www.heritagebrewing.com My wife was very enthusiastic about them, and I though they were solid. Eight beers on draft, and I'd say five of them were winners. Looks like they may have a barrel aging program in the works.

Sunday we stopped at Old Busthead in Warrenton. www.oldbusthead.com My wife and I both agreed the four beers they had on draft were all pretty weak. Their IPA was so bad that I enjoyed their pilsner more (something that would generally never happen). One of the women pouring beer squinted and read my DC Brau t-shirt and commented that she "never heard of them". Really? Really? You're less than 50 miles from DC Brau and you're working at a brewery and you've never heard of DC Brau? She had to be someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday..

DC Brau isn't a well known brewery.   

I would say you're quite wrong atomic. It is most likely the most well known of the many mediocre local breweries.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:38:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 09, 2014, 02:33:21 pm
Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 12:48:19 pm
We headed out to Shenandoah this past weekend for some hiking and camping (twice I had to pull off ticks that were crawling up my leg and also found a few more in my tent in the morning...fun, fun) and quite naturally had to check out a couple of breweries on the route.

Saturday we stopped at Heritage Brewing in Manassas. www.heritagebrewing.com My wife was very enthusiastic about them, and I though they were solid. Eight beers on draft, and I'd say five of them were winners. Looks like they may have a barrel aging program in the works.

Sunday we stopped at Old Busthead in Warrenton. www.oldbusthead.com My wife and I both agreed the four beers they had on draft were all pretty weak. Their IPA was so bad that I enjoyed their pilsner more (something that would generally never happen). One of the women pouring beer squinted and read my DC Brau t-shirt and commented that she "never heard of them". Really? Really? You're less than 50 miles from DC Brau and you're working at a brewery and you've never heard of DC Brau? She had to be someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday..

DC Brau isn't a well known brewery.   

I would say you're quite wrong atomic. It is most likely the most well known of the many mediocre local breweries.

Not really.  If you go my local beer store that has 100's of german and belgium beers plus just about any beer that distributes they only have 3 beers from DC Brau and it is a small section.  Even that place in Frederick that has the brew pub has a huge display.    Flying Dog and Heavy Seas are both more known and have a lot more brews.  I have never seen any place in Baltimore carry it on tap and Union Craft, Heavy Seas, and Flying Dog is in almost every bar.   You see none at O's games.  DC Brau might be big in DC but no one drinks it in Baltimore 40 miles away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 02:49:37 pm
I repeat, the brewery was in Warrenton VA, not Baltimore. And the person in question was a brewery employee, not a craft beer newbie on a music message board.

Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:38:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 09, 2014, 02:33:21 pm
Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 12:48:19 pm
We headed out to Shenandoah this past weekend for some hiking and camping (twice I had to pull off ticks that were crawling up my leg and also found a few more in my tent in the morning...fun, fun) and quite naturally had to check out a couple of breweries on the route.

Saturday we stopped at Heritage Brewing in Manassas. www.heritagebrewing.com My wife was very enthusiastic about them, and I though they were solid. Eight beers on draft, and I'd say five of them were winners. Looks like they may have a barrel aging program in the works.

Sunday we stopped at Old Busthead in Warrenton. www.oldbusthead.com My wife and I both agreed the four beers they had on draft were all pretty weak. Their IPA was so bad that I enjoyed their pilsner more (something that would generally never happen). One of the women pouring beer squinted and read my DC Brau t-shirt and commented that she "never heard of them". Really? Really? You're less than 50 miles from DC Brau and you're working at a brewery and you've never heard of DC Brau? She had to be someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday..

DC Brau isn't a well known brewery.   

I would say you're quite wrong atomic. It is most likely the most well known of the many mediocre local breweries.

Not really.  If you go my local beer store that has 100's of german and belgium beers plus just about any beer that distributes they only have 3 beers from DC Brau and it is a small section.  Even that place in Frederick that has the brew pub has a huge display.    Flying Dog and Heavy Seas are both more known and have a lot more brews.  I have never seen any place in Baltimore carry it on tap and Union Craft, Heavy Seas, and Flying Dog is in almost every bar.   You see none at O's games.  DC Brau might be big in DC but no one drinks it in Baltimore 40 miles away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:58:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 02:49:37 pm
I repeat, the brewery was in Warrenton VA, not Baltimore. And the person in question was a brewery employee, not a craft beer newbie on a music message board.

Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:38:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 09, 2014, 02:33:21 pm
Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 12:48:19 pm
We headed out to Shenandoah this past weekend for some hiking and camping (twice I had to pull off ticks that were crawling up my leg and also found a few more in my tent in the morning...fun, fun) and quite naturally had to check out a couple of breweries on the route.

Saturday we stopped at Heritage Brewing in Manassas. www.heritagebrewing.com My wife was very enthusiastic about them, and I though they were solid. Eight beers on draft, and I'd say five of them were winners. Looks like they may have a barrel aging program in the works.

Sunday we stopped at Old Busthead in Warrenton. www.oldbusthead.com My wife and I both agreed the four beers they had on draft were all pretty weak. Their IPA was so bad that I enjoyed their pilsner more (something that would generally never happen). One of the women pouring beer squinted and read my DC Brau t-shirt and commented that she "never heard of them". Really? Really? You're less than 50 miles from DC Brau and you're working at a brewery and you've never heard of DC Brau? She had to be someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday..

DC Brau isn't a well known brewery.   

I would say you're quite wrong atomic. It is most likely the most well known of the many mediocre local breweries.

Not really.  If you go my local beer store that has 100's of german and belgium beers plus just about any beer that distributes they only have 3 beers from DC Brau and it is a small section.  Even that place in Frederick that has the brew pub has a huge display.    Flying Dog and Heavy Seas are both more known and have a lot more brews.  I have never seen any place in Baltimore carry it on tap and Union Craft, Heavy Seas, and Flying Dog is in almost every bar.   You see none at O's games.  DC Brau might be big in DC but no one drinks it in Baltimore 40 miles away.

Who is the craft newbie? You? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 03:19:35 pm
I'm going to Colorado next month and will be visiting these breweries (or as many as my daughter will allow me, lol):

New Belgium
Great Divide
Avery
Oskar Blues
Epic

Odell
Crooked Stave
Funkwerks
Dry Dock
River North
Station 26
Prost
Copper Kettle
Comrade

I'm guessing you maybe are familiar with only the first five? If you are familiar with at least eight or nine of them, then indeed you are probably not a craft beer newbie, and I have totally mislabeled you.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being a craft beer newbie, I know plenty of people who are, and they are all fine people.


Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:58:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 02:49:37 pm
I repeat, the brewery was in Warrenton VA, not Baltimore. And the person in question was a brewery employee, not a craft beer newbie on a music message board.

Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:38:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 09, 2014, 02:33:21 pm
Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 12:48:19 pm
We headed out to Shenandoah this past weekend for some hiking and camping (twice I had to pull off ticks that were crawling up my leg and also found a few more in my tent in the morning...fun, fun) and quite naturally had to check out a couple of breweries on the route.

Saturday we stopped at Heritage Brewing in Manassas. www.heritagebrewing.com My wife was very enthusiastic about them, and I though they were solid. Eight beers on draft, and I'd say five of them were winners. Looks like they may have a barrel aging program in the works.

Sunday we stopped at Old Busthead in Warrenton. www.oldbusthead.com My wife and I both agreed the four beers they had on draft were all pretty weak. Their IPA was so bad that I enjoyed their pilsner more (something that would generally never happen). One of the women pouring beer squinted and read my DC Brau t-shirt and commented that she "never heard of them". Really? Really? You're less than 50 miles from DC Brau and you're working at a brewery and you've never heard of DC Brau? She had to be someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday..

DC Brau isn't a well known brewery.   

I would say you're quite wrong atomic. It is most likely the most well known of the many mediocre local breweries.

Not really.  If you go my local beer store that has 100's of german and belgium beers plus just about any beer that distributes they only have 3 beers from DC Brau and it is a small section.  Even that place in Frederick that has the brew pub has a huge display.    Flying Dog and Heavy Seas are both more known and have a lot more brews.  I have never seen any place in Baltimore carry it on tap and Union Craft, Heavy Seas, and Flying Dog is in almost every bar.   You see none at O's games.  DC Brau might be big in DC but no one drinks it in Baltimore 40 miles away.

Who is the craft newbie? You? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 09, 2014, 04:17:01 pm
you humble-braggin' SOB, james ford. 

sounds like a great trip! i hear epic is a great visit.  i've been to great divide only, and that place was fantastic.  i also imagine you'll be going to falling rock? not sure if it's family friendly, but they have a nice patio.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on June 09, 2014, 07:40:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 03:19:35 pm
I'm going to Colorado next month and will be visiting these breweries (or as many as my daughter will allow me, lol):

New Belgium
Great Divide
Avery
Oskar Blues
Epic

Odell
Crooked Stave
Funkwerks
Dry Dock
River North
Station 26
Prost
Copper Kettle
Comrade

I'm guessing you maybe are familiar with only the first five? If you are familiar with at least eight or nine of them, then indeed you are probably not a craft beer newbie, and I have totally mislabeled you.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being a craft beer newbie, I know plenty of people who are, and they are all fine people.


Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:58:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 02:49:37 pm
I repeat, the brewery was in Warrenton VA, not Baltimore. And the person in question was a brewery employee, not a craft beer newbie on a music message board.

Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:38:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 09, 2014, 02:33:21 pm
Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 12:48:19 pm
We headed out to Shenandoah this past weekend for some hiking and camping (twice I had to pull off ticks that were crawling up my leg and also found a few more in my tent in the morning...fun, fun) and quite naturally had to check out a couple of breweries on the route.

Saturday we stopped at Heritage Brewing in Manassas. www.heritagebrewing.com My wife was very enthusiastic about them, and I though they were solid. Eight beers on draft, and I'd say five of them were winners. Looks like they may have a barrel aging program in the works.

Sunday we stopped at Old Busthead in Warrenton. www.oldbusthead.com My wife and I both agreed the four beers they had on draft were all pretty weak. Their IPA was so bad that I enjoyed their pilsner more (something that would generally never happen). One of the women pouring beer squinted and read my DC Brau t-shirt and commented that she "never heard of them". Really? Really? You're less than 50 miles from DC Brau and you're working at a brewery and you've never heard of DC Brau? She had to be someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday..

DC Brau isn't a well known brewery.   

I would say you're quite wrong atomic. It is most likely the most well known of the many mediocre local breweries.

Not really.  If you go my local beer store that has 100's of german and belgium beers plus just about any beer that distributes they only have 3 beers from DC Brau and it is a small section.  Even that place in Frederick that has the brew pub has a huge display.    Flying Dog and Heavy Seas are both more known and have a lot more brews.  I have never seen any place in Baltimore carry it on tap and Union Craft, Heavy Seas, and Flying Dog is in almost every bar.   You see none at O's games.  DC Brau might be big in DC but no one drinks it in Baltimore 40 miles away.

Who is the craft newbie? You? 

You fail logic just like everything else.  It is like me saying I know 7 women that you don't know therefore I am a better lover.  You know how you can tell a craft beer novice?  They go on and on about IPAs and they read beer advocate to determine whether they like a beer.  I guess if I was a tiny man who got bossed around by his wife and drove an old beat up car and was only allowed a half American sized bottle of beer a night I would be a bitter ass hole on the internet like you.

Did you tell the barkeep she was an idiot for not hearing of DC Brau?  I am doubting you did.  You know maybe if you visit other places you shouldn't think that everyone from there should know about some crap beer from where you are from.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 08:39:50 pm
Yes, I told her I was surprised that she hadn't heard of the largest and most popular brewery in the most important city on earth, Washington Fucking DC. Where Obama lives. I also told her the 10,000 barrels of beer that DC Brau is producing this year will fucking dwarf whatever her shitty little hayseed brewery is producing this year. I also told her that nobody at DC Brau will ever hear of her shitty little brewery because her beer is crap and they no doubt will go out of business. She said I was probably right and gave me an extra free sample, which I of course refused.

Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 07:40:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 03:19:35 pm
I'm going to Colorado next month and will be visiting these breweries (or as many as my daughter will allow me, lol):

New Belgium
Great Divide
Avery
Oskar Blues
Epic

Odell
Crooked Stave
Funkwerks
Dry Dock
River North
Station 26
Prost
Copper Kettle
Comrade

I'm guessing you maybe are familiar with only the first five? If you are familiar with at least eight or nine of them, then indeed you are probably not a craft beer newbie, and I have totally mislabeled you.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being a craft beer newbie, I know plenty of people who are, and they are all fine people.


Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:58:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 02:49:37 pm
I repeat, the brewery was in Warrenton VA, not Baltimore. And the person in question was a brewery employee, not a craft beer newbie on a music message board.

Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:38:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 09, 2014, 02:33:21 pm
Quote from: atomic on June 09, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 12:48:19 pm
We headed out to Shenandoah this past weekend for some hiking and camping (twice I had to pull off ticks that were crawling up my leg and also found a few more in my tent in the morning...fun, fun) and quite naturally had to check out a couple of breweries on the route.

Saturday we stopped at Heritage Brewing in Manassas. www.heritagebrewing.com My wife was very enthusiastic about them, and I though they were solid. Eight beers on draft, and I'd say five of them were winners. Looks like they may have a barrel aging program in the works.

Sunday we stopped at Old Busthead in Warrenton. www.oldbusthead.com My wife and I both agreed the four beers they had on draft were all pretty weak. Their IPA was so bad that I enjoyed their pilsner more (something that would generally never happen). One of the women pouring beer squinted and read my DC Brau t-shirt and commented that she "never heard of them". Really? Really? You're less than 50 miles from DC Brau and you're working at a brewery and you've never heard of DC Brau? She had to be someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday..

DC Brau isn't a well known brewery.   

I would say you're quite wrong atomic. It is most likely the most well known of the many mediocre local breweries.

Not really.  If you go my local beer store that has 100's of german and belgium beers plus just about any beer that distributes they only have 3 beers from DC Brau and it is a small section.  Even that place in Frederick that has the brew pub has a huge display.    Flying Dog and Heavy Seas are both more known and have a lot more brews.  I have never seen any place in Baltimore carry it on tap and Union Craft, Heavy Seas, and Flying Dog is in almost every bar.   You see none at O's games.  DC Brau might be big in DC but no one drinks it in Baltimore 40 miles away.

Who is the craft newbie? You? 

You fail logic just like everything else.  It is like me saying I know 7 women that you don't know therefore I am a better lover.  You know how you can tell a craft beer novice?  They go on and on about IPAs and they read beer advocate to determine whether they like a beer.  I guess if I was a tiny man who got bossed around by his wife and drove an old beat up car and was only allowed a half American sized bottle of beer a night I would be a bitter ass hole on the internet like you.

Did you tell the barkeep she was an idiot for not hearing of DC Brau?  I am doubting you did.  You know maybe if you visit other places you shouldn't think that everyone from there should know about some crap beer from where you are from.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 08:42:29 pm
Perhaps I'm overambitious, but I have Crooked Stave, Epic, River North, Great Divide, Freshcraft, Falling Rock, and sobering up at the Rockies game all planned for one long all day downtown walking tour. So Falling Rock is in there, in theory. Now whether we make it there or not, we'll see.

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 09, 2014, 04:17:01 pm
you humble-braggin' SOB, james ford. 

sounds like a great trip! i hear epic is a great visit.  i've been to great divide only, and that place was fantastic.  i also imagine you'll be going to falling rock? not sure if it's family friendly, but they have a nice patio.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 09:04:06 pm
Seriously though (and I can't believe you're not grasping this)...it would be like someone opening a brewery in Aberdeen MD and not having the faintest idea who Heavy Seas (larger than DC Brau) or Union Craft (smaller than DC Brau) are. How can you break into a market (presumably a brewery in whose  only nearest large city is DC would be targeting the DC Metro) if you're not even aware of your largest local competitor?

But like I said, she was probably just someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday. I just rolled my eyes, and missed out on the opportunity to open hers.

What would you have done?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on June 09, 2014, 11:25:36 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 09:04:06 pm
Seriously though (and I can't believe you're not grasping this)...it would be like someone opening a brewery in Aberdeen MD and not having the faintest idea who Heavy Seas (larger than DC Brau) or Union Craft (smaller than DC Brau) are. How can you break into a market (presumably a brewery in whose  only nearest large city is DC would be targeting the DC Metro) if you're not even aware of your largest local competitor?

But like I said, she was probably just someone's mom just helping out on a Sunday. I just rolled my eyes, and missed out on the opportunity to open hers.

What would you have done?

I would have said it is a small brewery in DC that has pretty decent Beer and she should try it if she gets a chance.  I wouldn't roll my eyes.   Heavy Seas is a lot more well known than DC Brau and they have been around forever.   I think you have a myopic view.  Most people haven't heard of DC Brau and I didn't try it as all they seem to make is IPAs.  I don't get why you think you are better than other people. 

I have never been rude to wait staff in my life.  And I would never roll my eyes at them.   Your condescending attitude is something I can't understand as even my intern has a much better car than you.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on June 10, 2014, 12:24:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 08:42:29 pm
Perhaps I'm overambitious, but I have Crooked Stave, Epic, River North, Great Divide, Freshcraft, Falling Rock, and sobering up at the Rockies game all planned for one long all day downtown walking tour. So Falling Rock is in there, in theory. Now whether we make it there or not, we'll see.


I would also recommend hitting up Black Shirt which is on the north end of RINO, Hops and Pies on Tennyson as perhaps the best beer bar in Denver and you can hit up De Steeg while you are up there.  If you are going to Prost you might as well hit Denver Beer Co. as well.  Others worth visiting:  Strange, Former Future (great empanadas next door), TRVE and Renegade.  If you are going to the Source for Crooked Stave definitely eat at Acorn next door.  If you end up in Boulder definitely check out Sanitas and The Post Brewing Company in Lafayette for chicken and beer on the way.  I would also recommend hitting up Star Bar before or after the Rockies game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 10, 2014, 02:04:03 pm
Quote from: Lazer Guided Melodies on June 10, 2014, 12:24:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 08:42:29 pm
Perhaps I'm overambitious, but I have Crooked Stave, Epic, River North, Great Divide, Freshcraft, Falling Rock, and sobering up at the Rockies game all planned for one long all day downtown walking tour. So Falling Rock is in there, in theory. Now whether we make it there or not, we'll see.


I would also recommend hitting up Black Shirt which is on the north end of RINO, Hops and Pies on Tennyson as perhaps the best beer bar in Denver and you can hit up De Steeg while you are up there.  If you are going to Prost you might as well hit Denver Beer Co. as well.  Others worth visiting:  Strange, Former Future (great empanadas next door), TRVE and Renegade.  If you are going to the Source for Crooked Stave definitely eat at Acorn next door.  If you end up in Boulder definitely check out Sanitas and The Post Brewing Company in Lafayette for chicken and beer on the way.  I would also recommend hitting up Star Bar before or after the Rockies game.

James travels with a camping stove and fresh ingredients on his vacations so he can cook for himself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 10, 2014, 02:08:50 pm
Thanks. I have or will look into all of those options. Colorado just presents too many good options! (I think I remember that you live there...lucky you!)

We are renting a cottage in Estes Park for five nights, and will be cooking our own meals for four of them, after some great RMNP morning hikes and lounging by the river all afternoon. Two nights in Denver and one in Boulder, and a daytrip to Ft. Collins. So a mix of nature, beer, and tasty food both home cooked and restaurants treats.


Quote from: Lazer Guided Melodies on June 10, 2014, 12:24:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 08:42:29 pm
Perhaps I'm overambitious, but I have Crooked Stave, Epic, River North, Great Divide, Freshcraft, Falling Rock, and sobering up at the Rockies game all planned for one long all day downtown walking tour. So Falling Rock is in there, in theory. Now whether we make it there or not, we'll see.


I would also recommend hitting up Black Shirt which is on the north end of RINO, Hops and Pies on Tennyson as perhaps the best beer bar in Denver and you can hit up De Steeg while you are up there.  If you are going to Prost you might as well hit Denver Beer Co. as well.  Others worth visiting:  Strange, Former Future (great empanadas next door), TRVE and Renegade.  If you are going to the Source for Crooked Stave definitely eat at Acorn next door.  If you end up in Boulder definitely check out Sanitas and The Post Brewing Company in Lafayette for chicken and beer on the way.  I would also recommend hitting up Star Bar before or after the Rockies game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 10, 2014, 02:12:14 pm
Had a lunch date at Foggy Bottom Whole Foods. Got to try Double Jack and Enjoy By side by side. And the winner was....Double Jack.

And at $12 for 64 oz grower or $6 for 32 oz, Double Jack is the bargain of the week. Wish I'd had my growler.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 10, 2014, 02:20:36 pm
One quibble with what you said...do you really think that Hops and Pie has a better draft list than Falling Rock?
 ::)

Note: They are both on my must go to list, I was only listing my second day itinerary...Hops and Pie is the first stop on day 1!

Quote from: Lazer Guided Melodies on June 10, 2014, 12:24:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 09, 2014, 08:42:29 pm
Perhaps I'm overambitious, but I have Crooked Stave, Epic, River North, Great Divide, Freshcraft, Falling Rock, and sobering up at the Rockies game all planned for one long all day downtown walking tour. So Falling Rock is in there, in theory. Now whether we make it there or not, we'll see.


I would also recommend hitting up Black Shirt which is on the north end of RINO, Hops and Pies on Tennyson as perhaps the best beer bar in Denver and you can hit up De Steeg while you are up there.  If you are going to Prost you might as well hit Denver Beer Co. as well.  Others worth visiting:  Strange, Former Future (great empanadas next door), TRVE and Renegade.  If you are going to the Source for Crooked Stave definitely eat at Acorn next door.  If you end up in Boulder definitely check out Sanitas and The Post Brewing Company in Lafayette for chicken and beer on the way.  I would also recommend hitting up Star Bar before or after the Rockies game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on June 10, 2014, 02:50:53 pm
I meant outside of Falling Rock which I hardly ever go to since I am never in LoDo.  Hops and Pie's tap list changes throughout the day as well.  Another nice spot downtown is Euclid Hall. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 10, 2014, 04:13:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 10, 2014, 02:12:14 pm
Had a lunch date at Foggy Bottom Whole Foods. Got to try Double Jack and Enjoy By side by side. And the winner was....Double Jack.

And at $12 for 64 oz grower or $6 for 32 oz, Double Jack is the bargain of the week. Wish I'd had my growler.

rating IPAs is like rating which one of your kids is your favorite.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 12, 2014, 09:26:50 am
Researching my August road trip to Maine, I can across this rather funny review of a place in Portland:

We ordered lunch and beer. I had a liter of the fest bier that was fine. Others in the party ordered different beers that were supposed to be 12 or 16 oz according to their beer menu. They all came in the same size 12 oz glasses. When I pointed this out to the waiter he said I was wrong in an extremely rude manor. I showed him how 3 of their "16" oz glasses filled with water just filled my empty liter mug. He then asked me if I knew how many ozs were in a liter which I did. He had no reply when I told him about 36 fl oz constitutes a liter. This math wiz then explains to me that 3 16oz glasses should just fill a liter and too bad if I didn't like it. To top it off this little punk was wearing a Coors t shirt!

I'll never go back there even though the food and beer were acceptable. You only get 1 chance to make a first impression. If I had been with some of my regular beer drinking friends I would have asked for the manager and made a point. I didn't feel like doing this with some relatives I rarely see.

Too bad but they rip you off there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 12, 2014, 09:48:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 12, 2014, 09:26:50 am
Researching my August road trip to Maine, I can across this rather funny review of a place in Portland:


let me know what you find - we're heading up there in July and I think i have my bases pretty well covered but you never know
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 12, 2014, 10:44:00 am
This article does a very nice job (except for leaving off all of Connecticut, but I'm not going there anyway) of summarizing things.


http://www.bostonmagazine.com/restaurants/blog/2014/06/11/50-new-england-breweries-visit-summer/

Wish I could find a nice summary article like this for my Colorado trip, but personal research is always fun as well.

Quote from: brennser on June 12, 2014, 09:48:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 12, 2014, 09:26:50 am
Researching my August road trip to Maine, I can across this rather funny review of a place in Portland:


let me know what you find - we're heading up there in July and I think i have my bases pretty well covered but you never know
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on June 12, 2014, 11:43:30 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 12, 2014, 10:44:00 am
Wish I could find a nice summary article like this for my Colorado trip, but personal research is always fun as well.

If you want to keep track of any special events happening when you are in Colorado, read this post every week:  http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/2014/06/avery_and_river_north_get_sour_boulder_beer_and_great_divide_have_birthdays.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 17, 2014, 11:17:42 am
Illuminati Bottle #1 was quite delicious.

What we have for you is a representation of Pandemic Porter 3 ways. We have taken fresh Pandemic and blended it with rye whiskey aged Pandemic that we had in a barrel for almost a year, and also Pandemic that we aged in a Catoctin Creek whiskey barrel that was formerly used to age maple syrup. This release is a stunning exhibit of the amazing flavor profiles that can be derived from different methods of barrel aging, and we hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 17, 2014, 11:54:11 am
Quote from: brennser on June 12, 2014, 09:48:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 12, 2014, 09:26:50 am
Researching my August road trip to Maine, I can across this rather funny review of a place in Portland:


let me know what you find - we're heading up there in July and I think i have my bases pretty well covered but you never know

if you're roadtripping, you should be able to easily hit up treehouse and jack's abbey.  treehouse is growlers only, but it's worth it if they are filling any of their excellent IPAs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 17, 2014, 11:58:57 am
I don't think either of them fit the geographic and/or time parameters of my trip. Though I'll certainly have Jack's Abbey bottles on my radar screen for the suitcase home.

Looks like plenty of excellent possibilities in Maine, as well as potential Boston area visits to Trillium, Night Shift, and um, Harpoon.

 
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2014, 11:54:11 am
Quote from: brennser on June 12, 2014, 09:48:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 12, 2014, 09:26:50 am
Researching my August road trip to Maine, I can across this rather funny review of a place in Portland:


let me know what you find - we're heading up there in July and I think i have my bases pretty well covered but you never know

if you're roadtripping, you should be able to easily hit up treehouse and jack's abbey.  treehouse is growlers only, but it's worth it if they are filling any of their excellent IPAs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 17, 2014, 12:02:49 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 17, 2014, 11:58:57 am
I don't think either of them fit the geographic and/or time parameters of my trip. Though I'll certainly have Jack's Abbey bottles on my radar screen for the suitcase home.

Looks like plenty of excellent possibilities in Maine, as well as potential Boston area visits to Trillium, Night Shift, and um, Harpoon.

 
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2014, 11:54:11 am
Quote from: brennser on June 12, 2014, 09:48:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 12, 2014, 09:26:50 am
Researching my August road trip to Maine, I can across this rather funny review of a place in Portland:


let me know what you find - we're heading up there in July and I think i have my bases pretty well covered but you never know

if you're roadtripping, you should be able to easily hit up treehouse and jack's abbey.  treehouse is growlers only, but it's worth it if they are filling any of their excellent IPAs.

night shift sours are awesome. i recommended harpoon a while back, glad you'll drop in. even BA agrees it's great! http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/98/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 17, 2014, 12:10:29 pm
My hotel is 0.5 miles from Harpoon and 0.4 miles from Trillium. I'd be a fool not to go.

Night Shift of course is a bit more of a trek, but that's why god made running shoes.


Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2014, 12:02:49 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 17, 2014, 11:58:57 am
I don't think either of them fit the geographic and/or time parameters of my trip. Though I'll certainly have Jack's Abbey bottles on my radar screen for the suitcase home.

Looks like plenty of excellent possibilities in Maine, as well as potential Boston area visits to Trillium, Night Shift, and um, Harpoon.

 
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2014, 11:54:11 am
Quote from: brennser on June 12, 2014, 09:48:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 12, 2014, 09:26:50 am
Researching my August road trip to Maine, I can across this rather funny review of a place in Portland:


let me know what you find - we're heading up there in July and I think i have my bases pretty well covered but you never know

if you're roadtripping, you should be able to easily hit up treehouse and jack's abbey.  treehouse is growlers only, but it's worth it if they are filling any of their excellent IPAs.

night shift sours are awesome. i recommended harpoon a while back, glad you'll drop in. even BA agrees it's great! http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/98/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 17, 2014, 01:32:29 pm
outside those two breweries, you're kind of in a craft beer wasteland as far as boston goes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 17, 2014, 01:51:07 pm
Fortunately, I'll have plenty of evening time free to head to Cambridge (and Night Shift).

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 17, 2014, 01:32:29 pm
outside those two breweries, you're kind of in a craft beer wasteland as far as boston goes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 18, 2014, 05:10:15 pm
i had a beer for the first time since last september.  it was a special occasion and i only had one.  it was founders devil dancer.  so, damn, good.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 18, 2014, 05:11:32 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 18, 2014, 05:10:15 pm
i had a beer for the first time since last september.  it was a special occasion and i only had one.  it was founders devil dancer.  so, damn, good.   

what...was...the...occasion?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 18, 2014, 05:16:17 pm
anniversary.  you know, what is odd; i still dont miss excellent beer.  and good lord, the price of those things should make anybody want to stop, as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 18, 2014, 05:59:25 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 18, 2014, 05:16:17 pm
anniversary.  you know, what is odd; i still dont miss excellent beer.  and good lord, the price of those things should make anybody want to stop, as well.

you forgot to log in to the james ford account
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 18, 2014, 06:43:54 pm
$5/12 oz. 13% abv. Two of them for $10 is equivalent to a $10 bottle of wine.

Quote from: walkonby on June 18, 2014, 05:16:17 pm
anniversary.  you know, what is odd; i still dont miss excellent beer.  and good lord, the price of those things should make anybody want to stop, as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 18, 2014, 08:54:56 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on June 18, 2014, 05:59:25 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 18, 2014, 05:16:17 pm
anniversary.  you know, what is odd; i still dont miss excellent beer.  and good lord, the price of those things should make anybody want to stop, as well.

you forgot to log in to the james ford account

how, dare you
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on June 18, 2014, 09:19:38 pm
Drank 3 beers on Friday, 3 on Saturday, and 5 on Sunday.  I went into Max's on Saturday and they didn't have one beer that I wanted to try.  Walked a cross to some dump called Leadbetters and they had Paulander on tap.  Score. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 19, 2014, 10:56:15 am
So how is your "getting back into shape" plan going?

Quote from: atomic on June 18, 2014, 09:19:38 pm
Drank 3 beers on Friday, 3 on Saturday, and 5 on Sunday.  I went into Max's on Saturday and they didn't have one beer that I wanted to try.  Walked a cross to some dump called Leadbetters and they had Paulander on tap.  Score. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on June 19, 2014, 11:03:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 19, 2014, 10:56:15 am
So how is your "getting back into shape" plan going?

Quote from: atomic on June 18, 2014, 09:19:38 pm
Drank 3 beers on Friday, 3 on Saturday, and 5 on Sunday.  I went into Max's on Saturday and they didn't have one beer that I wanted to try.  Walked a cross to some dump called Leadbetters and they had Paulander on tap.  Score. 

Good.  I have lost 15 pounds so far. Even with the beer and food frenzy of the weekend with  2 hours of raquetball and an hour and half of basketball and healthy lunches I am still down for the week.   How about you have you put on some muscle?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 19, 2014, 11:12:53 am
Good, I reckon. Perhaps this should be in your fitness thread...

Back up to 11 mile runs on weekends. Run four days a week, bike the other three. Haven't lost any weight, but some would argue I don't need to.

I'm trying to drink more low-abv session IPA's and hefeweizens and less DIPA's, at least for the summer. Hoping to do enough hiking and running when on vacation in Colorado to counteract the multiple brewery visits. Though hiking with a seven year old means doing shorter hikes than I like...

Speaking of low abv session IPA's, anybody have a favorite? I've had Lagunitas, Stone, Founders, and Great Divide, and that's my order of preference.

And as far as hefe's go, Weistephaner is the best in the world. And six packs are cheap. I should be drinking more of that in the summer. DC Brau's hefe is pretty tasty too.

Quote from: atomic on June 19, 2014, 11:03:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 19, 2014, 10:56:15 am
So how is your "getting back into shape" plan going?

Quote from: atomic on June 18, 2014, 09:19:38 pm
Drank 3 beers on Friday, 3 on Saturday, and 5 on Sunday.  I went into Max's on Saturday and they didn't have one beer that I wanted to try.  Walked a cross to some dump called Leadbetters and they had Paulander on tap.  Score. 

Good.  I have lost 15 pounds so far. Even with the beer and food frenzy of the weekend with  2 hours of raquetball and an hour and half of basketball and healthy lunches I am still down for the week.   How about you have you put on some muscle?


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on June 19, 2014, 11:18:07 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 19, 2014, 11:12:53 am
Good, I reckon. Perhaps this should be in your fitness thread...

Back up to 11 mile runs on weekends. Run four days a week, bike the other three. Haven't lost any weight, but some would argue I don't need to.

I'm trying to drink more low-abv session IPA's and hefeweizens and less DIPA's, at least for the summer. Hoping to do enough hiking and running when on vacation in Colorado to counteract the multiple brewery visits. Though hiking with a seven year old means doing shorter hikes than I like...

Speaking of low abv session IPA's, anybody have a favorite? I've had Lagunitas, Stone, Founders, and Great Divide, and that's my order of preference.

And as far as hefe's go, Weistephaner is the best in the world. And six packs are cheap. I should be drinking more of that in the summer. DC Brau's hefe is pretty tasty too.

Quote from: atomic on June 19, 2014, 11:03:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on June 19, 2014, 10:56:15 am
So how is your "getting back into shape" plan going?

Quote from: atomic on June 18, 2014, 09:19:38 pm
Drank 3 beers on Friday, 3 on Saturday, and 5 on Sunday.  I went into Max's on Saturday and they didn't have one beer that I wanted to try.  Walked a cross to some dump called Leadbetters and they had Paulander on tap.  Score. 

Good.  I have lost 15 pounds so far. Even with the beer and food frenzy of the weekend with  2 hours of raquetball and an hour and half of basketball and healthy lunches I am still down for the week.   How about you have you put on some muscle?



I spent all the time I was in Germany and Austria drinking beer and I still lost weight.  All those castles have a lot of steps.   Plus hiking paths in the Alps burn off calories.


I thought you said you wanted to build up your core so you wouldn't get injured?  Maybe I was thinking of someone else. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 19, 2014, 05:52:51 pm
visiting chicago next week... three floyds is on the list, any other beer recommendations?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 19, 2014, 06:27:57 pm
Ones that I've been to and can recommend:

Revolution Brewpub
Local Option
Half Acre tasting room
Hopleaf (don't let kids in so haven't been in a while)
whatever the nearest Binny's is (for bottles to take home, seek out Pipeworks)
and of course the aforementioned Three Floyds....try to go on off hours or you're going to be waiting awhile
also, near Three Floyds, One Trick Pony has a cool little tasting room with very good beer

Ones that I haven't been to but I'm sure they are good:

Lagunitas tasting room (just opened)
The Map Room (don't think they let kids in)

Not really a fan of the Goose Island brewpubs....



Quote from: stevewizzle on June 19, 2014, 05:52:51 pm
visiting chicago next week... three floyds is on the list, any other beer recommendations?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 19, 2014, 07:05:06 pm
thanks JF! you just gave me more helpful information in one post than the past 20 minutes of reading the BA-great lakes subforum (okay, we get it, chicago is great).  revolution brewpub is a must, didn't realize half acre was chicago, and i was wondering whether or not we should stop at GI or not (it's most likely a no, but it's right next to wrigley...).

now, the harder question: anything i should be seeking out? revolutions barleywine is a must, but beyond that, no real ISO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 19, 2014, 09:17:31 pm
Check Three Floyds FB page to see their recent history of which day they release Zombie Dust. That's the day you want to be at Three Floyds, if you have a choice. *The seemed to release it on Thurs quite  bit in 2013.

Binny's has a very good website with updated inventory.

Pipeworks Citra was one of the best DIPA's I've ever had. All of their DIPA's get very high scores.

Half Acre Double Daisy Cutter if you can find it. Half Acre Heyoka is an excellent IPA, better than regular DAisy Cutter.

It looks like they currently have Surly Abrasive at Binny's Lincoln Park (that's the one i usually go to), and Surly Pentagram ($27/bomber) at Binnys South Loop.

Maybe something from Spiteful? Look them up.

Off Color Troublesome is a good cheap (in Chicago it's cheap) gose.

I myself would look to see what they have from Deschutes, but that's not an issuefor you...




Quote from: stevewizzle on June 19, 2014, 07:05:06 pm
thanks JF! you just gave me more helpful information in one post than the past 20 minutes of reading the BA-great lakes subforum (okay, we get it, chicago is great).  revolution brewpub is a must, didn't realize half acre was chicago, and i was wondering whether or not we should stop at GI or not (it's most likely a no, but it's right next to wrigley...).

now, the harder question: anything i should be seeking out? revolutions barleywine is a must, but beyond that, no real ISO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 29, 2014, 05:20:27 pm
dogfish head one hundred twenty minute is my favorite beer of all time, from all the time, by all of the time.  even though i dont really drink beer anymore, i walked into a local shoppe that sells good beer to get the garden tomatoes that they sell . . . and they had two four packs of said dogfish head beer, so i bought them.  ill keep them for years and have one every time i think life throws me a special occasion.  the end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: atomic on June 29, 2014, 08:01:39 pm
Quote from: walkonby on June 29, 2014, 05:20:27 pm
dogfish head one hundred twenty minute is my favorite beer of all time, from all the time, by all of the time.  even though i dont really drink beer anymore, i walked into a local shoppe that sells good beer to get the garden tomatoes that they sell . . . and they had two four packs of said dogfish head beer, so i bought them.  ill keep them for years and have one every time i think life throws me a special occasion.  the end.

 I don't consider that beer.  Beer is something you can have four or five of and not get messed up.  You drink 3 of those and you will be out of control.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2014, 07:50:29 am
If there ever was a beer made for splitting with your partner, it's 120 Minutes. Unfortunately for my wife, I'm not a fan. I'd rather have a more balanced IPA/DIPA in the 7-9% range.

I bet aging them will improve the taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2014, 11:44:43 am
Does anyone know where I can pick up some Sculpin IPA cans in the District/MD?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 30, 2014, 12:12:42 pm
chicago-area breweries, ranked:
1. revolution
2. goose island
3. half-acre
4. pipeworks
5. local option
6. three floyds
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 30, 2014, 12:18:49 pm
You filthy degenerates heard of this Bell's planet line of IPAs they're rolling out over the next few years? I guess Mars is first and coming out soon/is already out? Is this worth tracking down. It has a pretty label (albeit not as pretty as Oberon) and is from Michigan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on June 30, 2014, 12:21:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2014, 11:44:43 am
Does anyone know where I can pick up some Sculpin IPA cans in the District/MD?

Most Whole Foods in VA has them. So I'd guess the DC stores stocks it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2014, 12:43:48 pm
Three Floyds' brewpub not to your liking? Or their beer?

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 30, 2014, 12:12:42 pm
chicago-area breweries, ranked:
1. revolution
2. goose island
3. half-acre
4. pipeworks
5. local option
6. three floyds
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 30, 2014, 01:02:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 30, 2014, 12:43:48 pm
Three Floyds' brewpub not to your liking? Or their beer?

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 30, 2014, 12:12:42 pm
chicago-area breweries, ranked:
1. revolution
2. goose island
3. half-acre
4. pipeworks
5. local option
6. three floyds

both. i would go ahead and say there food was good, their artwork and image is great, their location is horrible, staff isn't very friendly, and their beer is mediocre.  arctic panzer wolf was the only thing that was notable to me... ZD, dreadnaught, gumballhead, space station middle finger, alpha king were all meh. honestly, DC brau makes better beers in those styles than FFF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2014, 01:58:16 pm
I agree with you about the food, staff, image, and location (though it's actually more accessible to my in-laws house than any of those others so that's a matter of perspective.)

And while I'd never call their beer "mediocre", I'd definitely say "overrated".


Quote from: stevewizzle on June 30, 2014, 01:02:19 pm
Quote from: James Ford on June 30, 2014, 12:43:48 pm
Three Floyds' brewpub not to your liking? Or their beer?

Quote from: stevewizzle on June 30, 2014, 12:12:42 pm
chicago-area breweries, ranked:
1. revolution
2. goose island
3. half-acre
4. pipeworks
5. local option
6. three floyds

both. i would go ahead and say there food was good, their artwork and image is great, their location is horrible, staff isn't very friendly, and their beer is mediocre.  arctic panzer wolf was the only thing that was notable to me... ZD, dreadnaught, gumballhead, space station middle finger, alpha king were all meh. honestly, DC brau makes better beers in those styles than FFF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 30, 2014, 02:17:30 pm
overrated is more appropriate. the hype seems bizarre to me... ZD is a fine beer but a fresh anti-hero, furious, or daisy cutter is just as good, if not better. 

my two favorite beers of the weekend: matilda at wrigley field (largely a craft beer wasteland otherwise) and citra-hero at revolution.  PW ninja vs. unicorn, central waters BABW, 2013 BCBCS, and half acre shrub tundra were also excellent.  overall, that city is flush with great beer options. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: radley17 on July 01, 2014, 12:00:23 am
This weeks episode of Brew Dogs is in Chicago.

Brew Dogs is an entertaining show on the Esquire channel featuring the two main brewers behind Scotland's BrewDog brewery(kinda the Dogfish Head of the UK...think extreme beers) visiting different American cities known for their beer scenes and brewing beers,pairing beer with food,hanging with noted brewers and tippling at various craft beer bars. The two guys are reasonably funny and don't come off douchey like many beer nerds. Definitely worth checking out if you dig craft brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 01, 2014, 08:04:16 am
We're currently watching the first season. Not a bad $10 purchase.


Quote from: radley17 on July 01, 2014, 12:00:23 am
This weeks episode of Brew Dogs is in Chicago.

Brew Dogs is an entertaining show on the Esquire channel featuring the two main brewers behind Scotland's BrewDog brewery(kinda the Dogfish Head of the UK...think extreme beers) visiting different American cities known for their beer scenes and brewing beers,pairing beer with food,hanging with noted brewers and tippling at various craft beer bars. The two guys are reasonably funny and don't come off douchey like many beer nerds. Definitely worth checking out if you dig craft brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 01, 2014, 09:26:08 am
Quote from: slappy on June 30, 2014, 12:21:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2014, 11:44:43 am
Does anyone know where I can pick up some Sculpin IPA cans in the District/MD?

Most Whole Foods in VA has them. So I'd guess the DC stores stocks it.

P Street doesn't have them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 01, 2014, 06:42:09 pm
Which Belgian beer should i drink to celebrate the victory?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 01, 2014, 10:04:52 pm
la cress?
duvel?
gulden draak?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 02, 2014, 07:59:31 am
I ended up having six ounces of Green Flash Road Warrior.

USA! USA! USA!


Quote from: walkonby on July 01, 2014, 10:04:52 pm
la cress?
duvel?
gulden draak?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2014, 09:19:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 02, 2014, 07:59:31 am
I ended up having six ounces of...
It's hysterical every time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 02, 2014, 09:34:27 am
They must be desperate to milk more cash from their one cash cow:

http://beerpulse.com/2014/06/southern-tier-pumking-kicks-off-2014-summer-pumpkin-beer-season-3298/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 02, 2014, 09:35:30 am
I'll be splitting three ounce samplers on my Colorado beer and hiking vacation that starts Friday.



Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on July 02, 2014, 09:19:56 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 02, 2014, 07:59:31 am
I ended up having six ounces of...
It's hysterical every time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2014, 03:18:50 pm
Founders is expanding yet again, primarily driven by All Day IPA.  lots of interesting info in this article... man, they're growing fast.

Founders Brewing expansion will double size of Grand Rapids company, CEO says
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2014/07/founders_will_double_in_size_b.html

"Overall sales are up 54 percent over 2013, said Stevens. Sales of All Day IPA, a session ale that Founders spent four years perfecting as a flagship brand before debuting last summer, is up 138 percent over last year.

All Day IPA is not the only Founders beer surging in sales. Centennial IPA is up 63 percent over 2013; Dirty Bastard is up 48 percent, and Founders Porter is up 87 percent, he said.

On Tuesday, July 1, the brewery also announced a new addition to the specialty lineup: Dark Penance, an imperial black IPA that lands in October."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2014, 05:04:11 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 02, 2014, 03:18:50 pm
Founders is expanding yet again, primarily driven by All Day IPA.  lots of interesting info in this article... man, they're growing fast.

Founders Brewing expansion will double size of Grand Rapids company, CEO says
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2014/07/founders_will_double_in_size_b.html

"Overall sales are up 54 percent over 2013, said Stevens. Sales of All Day IPA, a session ale that Founders spent four years perfecting as a flagship brand before debuting last summer, is up 138 percent over last year.

All Day IPA is not the only Founders beer surging in sales. Centennial IPA is up 63 percent over 2013; Dirty Bastard is up 48 percent, and Founders Porter is up 87 percent, he said.

On Tuesday, July 1, the brewery also announced a new addition to the specialty lineup: Dark Penance, an imperial black IPA that lands in October."

potentially bad news for east coast traders :p
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2014, 05:17:33 pm
yeah, i got the link from BA and someone there posted as much.

shit, in our last trade i sent you some breakfast stout... dammit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2014, 05:46:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 02, 2014, 05:17:33 pm
yeah, i got the link from BA and someone there posted as much.

shit, in our last trade i sent you some breakfast stout... dammit.

and kbs. and backwoods bastard before that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 07, 2014, 03:22:38 pm
Illuminati Release #2

We started with a hop forward pale ale that we transferred into some rye whiskey barrels to which we then added raspberry puree and allowed it to age. Over the course of several months of conditioning, the pale began to take on some of the characteristics not only of the raspberries, but of the rye barrel as well. As the beer continued to age and develop, we began to decide on what we wanted the end product to be. Once we had achieved the flavor profiles we wanted, we then began to do blending tests using different proportions of barrel aged and fresh beer. After making a final decision on the exact blend, we came up with a very delicious, complex, and unique beer that we think you will truly enjoy. It has many underlying characteristics of the pale still intact, with a subtle raspberry component, followed by a soft kiss of rye alcohol. Please enjoy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on July 09, 2014, 11:17:16 am
Bell's Two hearted Ipa is being produced in 16 oz  cans and it's just as delicious!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 09, 2014, 02:03:37 pm
Quote from: Bagley on July 09, 2014, 11:17:16 am
Bell's Two hearted Ipa is being produced in 16 oz  cans and it's just as delicious!

Picked some of those up last week when I couldn't find Sculpin cans, will drink again!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on July 09, 2014, 03:36:34 pm
SYNEK - countertop tap looks interesting for home brew/growler fans. Says beer stays fresher than a growler. I'm skeptical on leeching from the plastic bag.

(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/c68132e5f6bb807d1d17d55d5518a3dc/200357949/synek2.jpg)

Kickstarter campaign
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1620669801/synek-any-beer-ever-made-fresh-on-your-counter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1620669801/synek-any-beer-ever-made-fresh-on-your-counter)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 14, 2014, 09:31:26 am
Decent list...I feel like some of these are making the list just based off their name (Dogfish Head, Two Hearted, Hopslam, etc.) and others are off the list because not enough folks have tried them.


http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/zymurgys-2014-best-beers-america/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 14, 2014, 09:50:46 am
I went to Colorado. We did some great hiking. We did some beer touristing. Vast, very good beer scene in Colorado. Bigger but not as good as Vermont, and not as good as San Diego County. At some point I'll hopefully have time to do a full writeup.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 14, 2014, 12:20:14 pm
just got back from belgium.  did some beer touristing, and chocolate touristing, and old buildings on cobblestone streets touristing.  drank a lot of great beer.  even arranged a trade with someone there.  i brought some hoppy double IPAs and in exchange got a great selection of Flanders ales.  i brought back a suitcase full of beer, thanks to the kiddos not using their baggage allotment.  the bag was empty on the way there save for bubble wrap.  came back full of bottles.

best beer i tasted: a glass of 2010 Cantillon Lou Pepe kriek.  superb.  the house tripel at De Garre in Bruges was amazing, as was a 2012 rhubarb gueuze from Cantillon.

and in related news - from Cantillon's FB:
"Dear friends, the Zwanze Day 2014 will take place on Saturday 20/09/2014 at 21.00 Brussels time. The list of participant bars will follow in the coming week. Cheers !"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 14, 2014, 03:09:53 pm
continuing the just got back from theme

just got back from Boston, Portland, Acadia, The Forks (ME) and Waterbury. Saw some fireworks, ate at Meadhall, drank some beer, went to Crarft Beer Cellar in Belmont and bought some beer, went to a wedding in Concord MA just steps from the Old North Bridge without realizing its place in US history, went to Portland, went to Peaks Island (beautiful!), went to Allagash and bought some beer, drove to Acadia National Park and camped and drank some beer and ate lobster, hiked "The Beehive" w family and friends, swam in the Atlantic (brrrrr), drank some beer, went white water rafting (Class III and IV), went fishing, went lake swimming, drank some beer, drove through the White Mountains to Vermont, broke down, got towed 75 miles to Waterbury VT (thanks AAA!), dropped car at garage in Waterbury 50 feet from Prohibition Pig, 8 of us walked into PP at 9.55pm and they totally hooked us up with a great meal, drank Lawsons on tap, camped, went lake swimming, went kayaking, went to Hill Farmstead, queued 1.5 hours, swore to never do it again, visited maple sugarhouses and cheese creameries, saw covered bridges, checked out the Waterbury Arts festical, hit up The Alchemist pop up sale for Focal Banger and The Crusher, got the car fixed, drove back to DC, got neighbors to record World Cup final on our DVR while we were driving, switched off phones, got home at 5 - started watching game, got to end of regulation, realized DVR had not recorded extra time  :o :o, how was your week?  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 14, 2014, 03:11:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 14, 2014, 12:20:14 pm
just got back from belgium.   even arranged a trade with someone there.  i brought some hoppy double IPAs and in exchange got a great selection of Flanders ales. 
possibly the greatest understatement in beer trading history........
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 14, 2014, 09:03:58 pm
If you're ever planning on doing any beer touristing in Colorado, here's my cliff notes version, read on. If not, skip this post.

Regardless, make sure you skip taking Frontier Airlines. Nothing like checking in the night before to see your flight is on time only to show up at the airport to find out that your 4:40pm flight has been moved to 1:12am (but don't go anywhere because there's a slight chance it might leave early and if it does, it's your fault, not theirs).

We hit:

Arvada:
Yak and Yeti ( Yak and Yeti Himalayan IPA=best Colorado IPA I had, great Indian buffet)

Boulder:
Avery (lots of unmemorable beers, though admittedly I was sick as a dog, barking constantly)
Backcountry Pizza (pizza was pretty average, awesome that Bilnd Pig is always on draft)

Lyons:
Oskar Blues Brewpub (nice laid back vibe)

Estes Park:
Nothing, despite being there for five days. Cooked our own food in our cabin and drank beer we picked up in Boulder.

Fort Collins:
New Belgium (best tour ever, and i've been on plenty, loved their backstory, the enthuiasm of the workers/guide, awesome how much free (good) beer they gave us, daughter loved the curly slide)
Odell (second favorite Colorado IPA, cool place)
Funkwerks (good saisons but nothing special)
Fort Collins Brewpub (entirely too corporate vibe, terrible IPA, tasty flatbread)

Longmont:
Oskar Blues Brewpub (much bigger draft selection than Lyons but vibe was a bit too slick, Bonnie Raitt and Stevie Ray Vaughn at 11 in the morning with my Lost Abbey saison? No thanks.)

Denver:
Hops and Pie (excellent food and nice draft selection, great vibe)
Prost (excellent dunkel, good weisbier, and a kolsch and award winning keller-pils that were entirely forgettable)
Great Divide (only beer i remember was the Oatmeal Yeti which was nothing special. Surprised the place was so small but i heard they are moving to a bigger place)
River North (mixed bag ranging from decent to drain pour (the Quad), far short of Belgian beer actually made in Belgium)
Cheeky Monk (can't beat $6.99 lunch specials with half price drafts, the creamy, tangy penne pasta was amazing pair with a Cuvee des Jacobins Rouge. Wife had a Pliny, which was not half price, understandably)
Crooked Stave (my favorite tasting room visited, Surette and Orgins are both great beers)
Epic (pretty average beer except Big Bad Baptist, which is very good but far short of BCBS)
Falling Rock (no seats available so we actually left two minutes later)
Freshcraft (good food, nice $4 pint special for happy hour)
Dry Dock (maybe the surprise of the trip, drove up not expecting much when looking at its sububan stripmall location (though i had been drinking their awesome hefe while in Estes Park)...seven of the eight beers we sampled were very good to excellent, only one was a miss)
Comrade (my third favorite Colorado IPA, the PGA Seniors Golf and the canned Motown music didn't really seem to fit the "comrade" theme)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 09:30:05 am
boardie beer vacations, ranked:
1. bressner goes to NE (an absurd haul)
2. sweetcell goes to belgium
3. james ford goes to denver
4. atomic's trip to max's in baltimore
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 15, 2014, 10:01:30 am
wait!  i demand a recount!  i haven't listed the beers that i brought back, i'm sure that will change the judges' votes!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 10:08:51 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 15, 2014, 10:01:30 am
wait!  i demand a recount!  i haven't listed the beers that i brought back, i'm sure that will change the judges' votes!!!

well, consider the list above like the college football pre-season rankings. by no means is it definitive.

i just dropped in to NoCal over the past weekend and spent some time at lagunitas, 21st amendment, toronado, and mikkeller bar. i probably should have included it on the list....  at the #2 spot ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 15, 2014, 10:23:59 am
did you get to meet smackie, and did you get him to drink beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 15, 2014, 10:35:31 am
Was atomic celebrating the birth of atomic jr.?

You know, his fictional child from his fictional wife who has been pregnant for about 16 months now?


I'm ok with being #3, but without a doubt my family did the best, most scenic hikes on vacation!


Quote from: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 09:30:05 am
boardie beer vacations, ranked:
1. bressner goes to NE (an absurd haul)
2. sweetcell goes to belgium
3. james ford goes to denver
4. atomic's trip to max's in baltimore

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 10:39:41 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 15, 2014, 10:23:59 am
did you get to meet smackie, and did you get him to drink beer?

not this time. going to try and connect during my next trip in two weeks. and unless i'm at toronado, i'd rather grab a glass of wine in SF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 10:40:41 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2014, 10:35:31 am
Was atomic celebrating the birth of atomic jr.?

You know, his fictional child from his fictional wife who has been pregnant for about 16 months now?


I'm ok with being #3, but without a doubt my family did the best, most scenic hikes on vacation!


Quote from: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 09:30:05 am
boardie beer vacations, ranked:
1. bressner goes to NE (an absurd haul)
2. sweetcell goes to belgium
3. james ford goes to denver
4. atomic's trip to max's in baltimore


that's why i specified "beer vacation" :)

we got atomic to go to max's like two years ago, and he hated it.  the memory should live on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 15, 2014, 10:51:46 am
are you really gonna make me post pics of my beer AND my hikes just to prove that my trip was the best EVAH???!!!!  :P :P

Quote from: James Ford on July 15, 2014, 10:35:31 am
Was atomic celebrating the birth of atomic jr.?

You know, his fictional child from his fictional wife who has been pregnant for about 16 months now?


I'm ok with being #3, but without a doubt my family did the best, most scenic hikes on vacation!


Quote from: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 09:30:05 am
boardie beer vacations, ranked:
1. bressner goes to NE (an absurd haul)
2. sweetcell goes to belgium
3. james ford goes to denver
4. atomic's trip to max's in baltimore

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 15, 2014, 11:32:59 am
Quote from: brennser on July 15, 2014, 10:51:46 am
are you really gonna make me post pics of my beer AND my hikes just to prove that my trip was the best EVAH???!!!!  :P :P

I am friends with with half the group on FB, and the photos of Belgium vs the image your car on the rack is going to be tough to overcome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 15, 2014, 04:46:21 pm
Quote from: vansmack on July 15, 2014, 11:32:59 am
Quote from: brennser on July 15, 2014, 10:51:46 am
are you really gonna make me post pics of my beer AND my hikes just to prove that my trip was the best EVAH???!!!!  :P :P

I am friends with with half the group on FB, and the photos of Belgium vs the image your car on the rack is going to be tough to overcome.

ha ha - busted
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 15, 2014, 06:23:20 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 10:39:41 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 15, 2014, 10:23:59 am
did you get to meet smackie, and did you get him to drink beer?

not this time. going to try and connect during my next trip in two weeks. and unless i'm at toronado, i'd rather grab a glass of wine in SF.

This.  And it's on.

Although I did once drink some beers in Toronado with Sweetcell and have had a couple bottles of wine with him in SF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 16, 2014, 09:05:05 pm
smackie drank beer in dc last month. and not high life either!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 21, 2014, 07:56:28 am
An Atomic sighting???

I was in the beer section of P Street Whole Foods Friday night and this old guy asked the beer guy "Don't you guys have any Schneider Weisse? It's the king of beers." The worker told him no, and Atomic, I mean the old guy, continued to mumble aloud "You don't have any German bottles here at all. What the hell kind of store is this, anyway?"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 21, 2014, 07:57:57 am
What the hell kind of country is this? How could Germany let this happen?
Can we bring back Atomic for some comments?








Stone to Open Production Brewery and Destination Restaurant in Berlin
 By Ben Keene

 On the eve of their 18th anniversary, Stone Brewing Company revealed plans today to open a production brewery and a destination restaurant in Berlin, Germany. The news comes nearly five years after the brewery published a formal Request for Proposal. With the announcement, Stone, the 17th largest brewery in the United States, took its first step toward becoming the first American craft brewer to independently own and operate a brewery in Europe.

?It?s daunting, humbling, and exciting,? says CEO and co-founder Greg Koch. ?After years of searching and negotiating we?re opening in a beautiful historic property. And it?s in the amazing city of Berlin.?

Serving as an international hub for the growing company, the location includes three main buildings on more than two acres of land in Mariendorf, roughly six miles south of the city?s Brandenburg Gate. Anchoring the site is a distinctive red brick main hall built in 1901 by the Imperial Continental Gas Association, a British company that introduced gas lighting to Berlin in 1826. Encompassing more than 43,000 square feet of interior space, the main hall will house a farm to table restaurant, a retail store and a custom-built brewhouse when complete in late 2015 or early 2016. The two other buildings on Stone?s new gasworks property will be used for special events and to produce and package beers for distribution and consumption on site. The company expects to spend more than $25 million on renovation, construction and landscaping.

?This will be a definite boost to the local craft beer community,? Koch insists. ?We made friends with pretty much everybody and there is real interest in American craft beer here. They?ve been extremely supportive.?

And for his part, Koch sees the expansion project as a chance to extend the reach of craft beer in general. Along with a selection of their own aggressive, hop-forward beers, Koch says that Stone Brewing World Bistro & Gardens Berlin will offer draft and bottled beer from breweries in Germany and elsewhere in Europe. But, he adds, Stone currently has no plans to brew any traditional German styles. Instead, some of the first products to emerge from the new brewery will be part of a limited release series collectively referred to as Stone Groundbreaking Collaborations.

 Sold in commemorative 1.5-liter bottles for $50 each, the collaboration beers will be available exclusively through a crowdfunding campaign on Indiegogo, which the company also announced today. Proceeds will go toward expediting construction in Berlin and the company?s other expansion project East of the Mississippi.

?We?re selling futures,? explains Koch. ?Each one of the crowdfunding beers is going to be over and beyond. And once they sell out, that?s it.?

The series will launch with three products: Imperial Royal Imperial Saison du BUFF, a beer Koch describes as ?an uber version? of the Saison that Stone first released in 2010 with Victory and Dogfish Head, SPECIAL bashah, a second take on the Black Double Belgian IPA brewed once before with Scotland?s BrewDog in 2009, and Super Duper Arrogant, a Strong Ale that revisits an earlier collaboration between Stone and Birrificio Le Baladin of Italy.

 For more information, visit: http://www.stonebrewing.com/berlin and http://igg.me/at/stonebrewing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 21, 2014, 08:53:05 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 21, 2014, 07:57:57 am
Can we bring back Atomic for some comments?
Get the hell off my messgaeboard.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 21, 2014, 07:48:08 pm
http://coolmaterial.com/feature/beer-bucket-list/2/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 21, 2014, 09:05:24 pm
How many have you had?

I've had 18 of 25, with a Westy 12 sitting in the basement that will be opened 5/17/15.

Quote from: Yada on July 21, 2014, 07:48:08 pm
http://coolmaterial.com/feature/beer-bucket-list/2/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sieve-Fisted on July 22, 2014, 07:06:57 am
Sauf Haus Bier Hall in Dupont opens this Thursday, 7/24. http://dc.eater.com/archives/2014/07/21/sauf-haus-opens-thursday-in-dupont-circle.php (http://dc.eater.com/archives/2014/07/21/sauf-haus-opens-thursday-in-dupont-circle.php)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 22, 2014, 09:01:14 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 21, 2014, 09:05:24 pm
How many have you had?

I've had 18 of 25, with a Westy 12 sitting in the basement that will be opened 5/17/15.

Quote from: Yada on July 21, 2014, 07:48:08 pm
http://coolmaterial.com/feature/beer-bucket-list/2/

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2014, 10:21:45 am
Hoping they only serve Stone beers.

Quote from: Sieve-Fisted on July 22, 2014, 07:06:57 am
Sauf Haus Bier Hall in Dupont opens this Thursday, 7/24. http://dc.eater.com/archives/2014/07/21/sauf-haus-opens-thursday-in-dupont-circle.php (http://dc.eater.com/archives/2014/07/21/sauf-haus-opens-thursday-in-dupont-circle.php)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 22, 2014, 11:49:04 am
also at 18 of 25.

CBS is my holy grail, more so than Darklord or Pliny the Younger.

i could easily up my score.  i haven't had La Folie only because i haven't been that interested, though it's on shelves right now.  someday i might get a shot of Utopias at a bar.  i'm trying to set up a trade for Cable Car.  price has kept me away from Speedway Stout but i'm sure i'll break down at some point.  can't say i have much interest in Rogue Chipotle Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2014, 12:13:48 pm
You definitely NEED to have La Folie!

I want to say we had Speedway Stout at at least one bottle share (maybe Steve brought it, memory a little fuzzy....), so if you've been at every hour of every bottle share, you've tried that one...



Quote from: sweetcell on July 22, 2014, 11:49:04 am
also at 18 of 25.

CBS is my holy grail, more so than Darklord or Pliny the Younger.

i could easily up my score.  i haven't had La Folie only because i haven't been that interested, though it's on shelves right now.  someday i might get a shot of Utopias at a bar.  i'm trying to set up a trade for Cable Car.  price has kept me away from Speedway Stout but i'm sure i'll break down at some point.  can't say i have much interest in Rogue Chipotle Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 22, 2014, 01:02:38 pm
i've read that La Folie has been in decline in recent years.  i saw it last night at Rodmans.  it wasn't cheap ($15 a bottle?), at that price there were other beers i was going to buy.  but i do love me some oud bruin so i should just pull the trigger.

cool about the speedway stout - clock me in at 19, then!  my memory is swiss cheese.  i'll be in vermont in a few weeks, and a beer store/gas station there always has some.  i'll probably pick up a bottle just to be sure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2014, 01:20:47 pm
Not a brewery I generally seek out, but this one is a pretty tasty summer beer.

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a602/mfnmbessert/AndersonValleyTheKimmieTheYinkAndTheHolyGoseAle_zpsc3ff8c8c.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 22, 2014, 01:27:19 pm
On a recommendation, I tried the Stiegel Grapefruit Radler yesterday, and found it quite delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2014, 01:39:00 pm
That one is a drink (is it even a beer?) of great contention in our household.

I like it (best after a run in hot weather), my wife does not.

Perhaps that corresponds with me being (an occasional) soda drinker and my wife not drinking soda.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on July 22, 2014, 01:27:19 pm
On a recommendation, I tried the Stiegel Grapefruit Radler yesterday, and found it quite delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 22, 2014, 01:53:00 pm
Does ginger beer count as beer?

I have to say I broke the great gin slump of 1998 a few weekends ago when I had this amazing cocktail.

(http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19659/19659874a1979de26d479a50e0e84cbe1f81078e.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 22, 2014, 02:02:55 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 22, 2014, 01:39:00 pm
That one is a drink (is it even a beer?) of great contention in our household.
I guess from looking it up, it is technically not a beer. (I assumed because it came out of a beer tap.) It's 40% beer mixed with 60% grapefruit soda, lowering the ABV% to below beer standards. Whoops.

Either way, I think its an ideal drink for a hot day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 22, 2014, 02:28:09 pm
a radler is any mix of beer and a sweet drink.  lemonade is another common mixer. 

is it a beer?  i guess not, since it's beer and something else (and that something else isn't fermented).  if you're holding a rum and coke and someone asks you "is that rum?", how do you answer?  i would say "yes... with coke."

i last had radler in germany many years ago, made with lemonade.  i remember liking it but thinking to myself that i'd rather just have beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 22, 2014, 02:35:19 pm
FTFY, lol.


Quote from: sweetcell on July 22, 2014, 02:28:09 pm
a radler is any mix of beer and a sweet drink.  lemonade is another common mixer. 

is it a beer?  i guess not, since it's beer and something else (and that something else isn't fermented).  if you're holding a rum and coke and someone asks you "is that rum?", how do you answer?  i would say "yes... with coke."

i last had radler in germany many years ago, made with lemonade.  i remember liking it but thinking to myself that i'd rather just have a Belgian or American beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 22, 2014, 02:41:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 22, 2014, 02:28:09 pm
if you're holding a rum and coke and someone asks you "is that rum?", how do you answer?  i would say "yes... with coke."
I don't understand your analogy. Under what circumstances do you see me drinking rum? Can you rewrite it to be about Italian cordials or gin?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 24, 2014, 02:00:16 pm
Anybody else pick up the Sierra Beer Camp 12 pack?

12 beers, should last me, a long time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 24, 2014, 02:14:18 pm
BCBS 2014 (summary copied from Beer Advocate, not my words...):

http://www.abvchicago.com/?p=690
To sum up the article Brett Porter says:
 This year we?ll see the return of Bourbon County Vanilla, a Bourbon County Coffee variant with Rwandan coffee, the Proprietor's version will include unrefined Mexican sugar, coconut water, cinnamon, and Ugandan Chocolate nibs.
 Their next Fulton and Wood release will be a Pomegranate Berliner Weisse tentatively named ?Lilith?.
They have some BC in old ass barrels that will "make the Pappy barrels seem like youngsters."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 24, 2014, 04:04:27 pm
Quote from: James Ford on July 24, 2014, 02:14:18 pm
BCBS 2014 (summary copied from Beer Advocate, not my words...):

http://www.abvchicago.com/?p=690
To sum up the article Brett Porter says:
 This year we?ll see the return of Bourbon County Vanilla, a Bourbon County Coffee variant with Rwandan coffee, the Proprietor's version will include unrefined Mexican sugar, coconut water, cinnamon, and Ugandan Chocolate nibs.
 Their next Fulton and Wood release will be a Pomegranate Berliner Weisse tentatively named ?Lilith?.
They have some BC in old ass barrels that will "make the Pappy barrels seem like youngsters."

neat, hoping to snag some vanilla for sure. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 24, 2014, 05:18:29 pm
They sound tasty - Black Friday is gonna be a shitshow

Quote from: James Ford on July 24, 2014, 02:14:18 pm
BCBS 2014 (summary copied from Beer Advocate, not my words...):

http://www.abvchicago.com/?p=690
To sum up the article Brett Porter says:
 This year we?ll see the return of Bourbon County Vanilla, a Bourbon County Coffee variant with Rwandan coffee, the Proprietor's version will include unrefined Mexican sugar, coconut water, cinnamon, and Ugandan Chocolate nibs.
 Their next Fulton and Wood release will be a Pomegranate Berliner Weisse tentatively named ?Lilith?.
They have some BC in old ass barrels that will "make the Pappy barrels seem like youngsters."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 24, 2014, 05:37:08 pm
i come to 930 to plan my beer purchases 4 months in advance.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on July 25, 2014, 11:14:53 am
Icing on the cake to a wonderful evening with Mr. Hansen-Phishhead dude selling Heady Topper on the way out of MPP.  Picked up a can.  Never had it but have read tremendous reviews. Should I drink it from can as they suggest?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on July 25, 2014, 11:17:24 am
Is there good beer sold at MPP? I thought I read they sold DC Brau and Union Craft now, but I couldn't find it last night. Where are they located? The "craft beer" stand had GI 312 and some other schwag.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 25, 2014, 11:25:15 am
Quote from: Bagley on July 25, 2014, 11:14:53 am
Icing on the cake to a wonderful evening with Mr. Hansen-Phishhead dude selling Heady Topper on the way out of MPP.  Picked up a can.  Never had it but have read tremendous reviews. Should I drink it from can as they suggest?

i think it's best enjoyed straight from the can, so yes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 25, 2014, 11:39:02 am
Quote from: Bagley on July 25, 2014, 11:14:53 am
Icing on the cake to a wonderful evening with Mr. Hansen-Phishhead dude selling Heady Topper on the way out of MPP.  Picked up a can.  Never had it but have read tremendous reviews. Should I drink it from can as they suggest?

$10 a can? drink it now... at your desk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 25, 2014, 11:39:28 am
Quote from: fatskippy on July 25, 2014, 11:17:24 am
Is there good beer sold at MPP? I thought I read they sold DC Brau and Union Craft now, but I couldn't find it last night. Where are they located? The "craft beer" stand had GI 312 and some other schwag.

I prefer bud light and bud light lime when ragin' at MPP.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 27, 2014, 09:25:38 pm
in honor of atomic:

German beer: Pure, cheap and a bit dull (http://www.economist.com/news/business/21608755-brash-americans-plan-froth-up-germanys-staid-brewing-business-pure-cheap-and-bit-dull)

(...) German beers are bland and indistinguishable. The country has many tiny breweries whose ales can only be had locally. Some, like the smoked beers of Bamberg in Franconia, are distinctive. But many of the small fry competently but predictably turn out a narrow range of flavours.

Rory Lawton, an Irish beer expert in Berlin, thinks Germany?s Reinheitsgebot, or beer-purity law, is discouraging innovation. The 1516 law was intended to make it easier to tax beer, through levies on its permitted ingredients: malted barley, hops, water and, later, yeast. Centuries on, brewers began using the Reinheitsgebot as a marketing tool to promote their products as pure and authentic. If anything else is put into a brew made in Germany it cannot be called Bier, but must be labelled ?alcoholic malt drink?.

Today, the link between quality and the purity law seems strange outside German brewing circles, since the restriction on experimenting with ingredients has meant that the country has largely missed out on the American-led ?craft beer? craze. Germany?s beer exports have been flat since 2007, whereas imports of more varied foreign beers have climbed. In America, consumption of the watery swill that passes for beer is falling, but the trade body for craft brewers reckons their sales rose by 17.2% in 2013.

(article goes on to talk about Stone's upcoming expansion into Germany.  the company has $137m in annual sales but trying to crowd-fund $1m (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/stone-groundbreaking-collaborations-the-campaign-for-cross-planetary-brewing) of the $25m price tag.  for a while it wasn't working, but they're now at 25% of their goal.  some are objecting, saying Crowd-Funded Brewery Campaigns Are Bullshit (http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/crowd-funded-brewery-campaigns-are-bullshit-1608353775)).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 31, 2014, 09:23:05 am
Stone just posted this image (among others) on their Facebook page:

 "Recently, Stone Co-founder Greg Koch kicked off a speech on our upcoming#Berlin brewery by disposing of some macro-lagers from countries spanning the globe in a most unique way. Cheers to #craftbeer...and forklifts!"


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/10372872_10152588547352432_1651261752794450339_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 31, 2014, 09:25:08 am
Somewhere, Atomic is reading that last post and launching into an anti-IPA rant and crying over the loss of what looks very much like a typical one week supply of beer for him.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2014, 10:24:45 am
this was a nice find up in west west NY
(http://ithacabeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Box-of-Belgians_horizontal-1024x673.jpg)
The Hopbloem and Obscurite were delish

Going to the Southern Tier Brewery tour Saturday too...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 31, 2014, 11:11:15 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 31, 2014, 09:23:05 am
g#Berlin brewery by disposing of some macro-lagers from countries spanning the globe in a most unique way. Cheers to #craftbeer...and forklifts!"

seems needlessly brash and offensive.  we get it, you're Mr. Craft From On High... do you really need to piss off people, and your competitors, with such a stunt?  and way to burnish the image of Americans as boorish shoot-first yeehaws...

Quote from: James Ford on July 31, 2014, 09:23:05 am
Stone just posted this image (among others) on their Facebook page:

wait, how the hell would you know what anyone is posting on Facebook?!?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 31, 2014, 12:52:26 pm
I love the brashness. If we're willing to admit Germany has the better soccer team, Germany should man up and admit we have the better beer.

Sorry, I copied and pasted this from another source. I'm not good at quoting things. Though in this case it hardly matters.

I do check Facebook pages of certain establishments. Sometimes it's the only place to find things out. Though only at home since it's blocked at work.


Quote from: sweetcell on July 31, 2014, 11:11:15 am
Quote from: James Ford on July 31, 2014, 09:23:05 am
g#Berlin brewery by disposing of some macro-lagers from countries spanning the globe in a most unique way. Cheers to #craftbeer...and forklifts!"

seems needlessly brash and offensive.  we get it, you're Mr. Craft From On High... do you really need to piss off people, and your competitors, with such a stunt?  and way to burnish the image of Americans as boorish shoot-first yeehaws...

Quote from: James Ford on July 31, 2014, 09:23:05 am
Stone just posted this image (among others) on their Facebook page:

wait, how the hell would you know what anyone is posting on Facebook?!?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 09, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Wings at DC Brau today...as of 2pm, they sold half of the cases.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 12, 2014, 03:19:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Wings at DC Brau today...as of 2pm, they sold half of the cases.

I will never buy this beer again.

Something has happened in either their canning process or their recipe since they first released this beer as it basically tastes awful now IMO.

The one saving grace of that brewery was Wings, now there is nothing there worth drinking IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 12, 2014, 03:49:15 pm
I'll be happy to give you $2 per unopened can from this last batch.

Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2014, 03:19:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Wings at DC Brau today...as of 2pm, they sold half of the cases.

I will never buy this beer again.

Something has happened in either their canning process or their recipe since they first released this beer as it basically tastes awful now IMO.

The one saving grace of that brewery was Wings, now there is nothing there worth drinking IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 12, 2014, 03:54:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 12, 2014, 03:49:15 pm
I'll be happy to give you $2 per unopened can from this last batch.

Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2014, 03:19:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Wings at DC Brau today...as of 2pm, they sold half of the cases.

I will never buy this beer again.

Something has happened in either their canning process or their recipe since they first released this beer as it basically tastes awful now IMO.

The one saving grace of that brewery was Wings, now there is nothing there worth drinking IMO.

Sounds good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 12, 2014, 07:29:46 pm
Not too much of a surprise that Seattle would have the best beer selection and the Yankees would have the worst.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/mariners-have-best-beer-selection-in-mlb--study-says--while-yankees-have-worst-223400837.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 12, 2014, 08:10:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2014, 03:19:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Wings at DC Brau today...as of 2pm, they sold half of the cases.

I will never buy this beer again.

Something has happened in either their canning process or their recipe since they first released this beer as it basically tastes awful now IMO.

The one saving grace of that brewery was Wings, now there is nothing there worth drinking IMO.

is it still $18? because i never understood how they could justify such a ridiculous price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 12, 2014, 08:32:11 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 12, 2014, 07:29:46 pm
Not too much of a surprise that Seattle would have the best beer selection and the Yankees would have the worst.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/mariners-have-best-beer-selection-in-mlb--study-says--while-yankees-have-worst-223400837.html

this is neat. they have fremont and balebreaker always on tap, both incredible breweries.  hell, balebreaker makes a pale ale (field 41) and an IPA (top cutter) that are pretty much cream of the crop in the PNW.  it helps their brewery is right in the middle of yakima valley.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 12, 2014, 09:42:54 pm
Comparing the top 5 for San Diego vs. the top 5 For Seattle, I'm not sure how San Diego only comes in t #8.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 12, 2014, 08:32:11 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 12, 2014, 07:29:46 pm
Not too much of a surprise that Seattle would have the best beer selection and the Yankees would have the worst.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/mariners-have-best-beer-selection-in-mlb--study-says--while-yankees-have-worst-223400837.html

this is neat. they have fremont and balebreaker always on tap, both incredible breweries.  hell, balebreaker makes a pale ale (field 41) and an IPA (top cutter) that are pretty much cream of the crop in the PNW.  it helps their brewery is right in the middle of yakima valley.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 12, 2014, 10:23:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 12, 2014, 09:42:54 pm
Comparing the top 5 for San Diego vs. the top 5 For Seattle, I'm not sure how San Diego only comes in t #8.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 12, 2014, 08:32:11 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 12, 2014, 07:29:46 pm
Not too much of a surprise that Seattle would have the best beer selection and the Yankees would have the worst.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/mariners-have-best-beer-selection-in-mlb--study-says--while-yankees-have-worst-223400837.html

this is neat. they have fremont and balebreaker always on tap, both incredible breweries.  hell, balebreaker makes a pale ale (field 41) and an IPA (top cutter) that are pretty much cream of the crop in the PNW.  it helps their brewery is right in the middle of yakima valley.

indeed.  looks like there's an unreasonable bias towards quantity in whatever equation was used.  there's plenty of options at safeco, but a lot of them are meh
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 13, 2014, 01:20:37 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 12, 2014, 08:10:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2014, 03:19:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Wings at DC Brau today...as of 2pm, they sold half of the cases.

I will never buy this beer again.

Something has happened in either their canning process or their recipe since they first released this beer as it basically tastes awful now IMO.

The one saving grace of that brewery was Wings, now there is nothing there worth drinking IMO.

is it still $18? because i never understood how they could justify such a ridiculous price.

It came to $20 a sixer after taxes. I was willing to pay that when it first came out, but I stand firm that either the recipe changed or something during the canning process is giving it a strange taste...as it warms up a bit, I find it undrinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 14, 2014, 03:48:16 pm
So is anyone attending any of the DC beer week events?
http://dcbeerweek.net/ (http://dcbeerweek.net/)
Just did a cursory look and i'm not that impressed

would like to know if any one saw a good one that I over looked
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 14, 2014, 09:05:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 13, 2014, 01:20:37 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 12, 2014, 08:10:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2014, 03:19:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Wings at DC Brau today...as of 2pm, they sold half of the cases.

I will never buy this beer again.

Something has happened in either their canning process or their recipe since they first released this beer as it basically tastes awful now IMO.

The one saving grace of that brewery was Wings, now there is nothing there worth drinking IMO.

is it still $18? because i never understood how they could justify such a ridiculous price.

It came to $20 a sixer after taxes. I was willing to pay that when it first came out, but I stand firm that either the recipe changed or something during the canning process is giving it a strange taste...as it warms up a bit, I find it undrinkable.

i don't doubt that the taste is different, but maybe they had an off batch (happens a lot with DIPAs), and i wonder if you had something before drinking that altered your pallet or the taste. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 15, 2014, 12:28:46 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 14, 2014, 09:05:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 13, 2014, 01:20:37 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 12, 2014, 08:10:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2014, 03:19:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Wings at DC Brau today...as of 2pm, they sold half of the cases.

I will never buy this beer again.

Something has happened in either their canning process or their recipe since they first released this beer as it basically tastes awful now IMO.

The one saving grace of that brewery was Wings, now there is nothing there worth drinking IMO.

is it still $18? because i never understood how they could justify such a ridiculous price.

It came to $20 a sixer after taxes. I was willing to pay that when it first came out, but I stand firm that either the recipe changed or something during the canning process is giving it a strange taste...as it warms up a bit, I find it undrinkable.

i don't doubt that the taste is different, but maybe they had an off batch (happens a lot with DIPAs), and i wonder if you had something before drinking that altered your pallet or the taste. 

That's two off batches then in the past 8 months. The last time I had Wings was around Xmas of last year and it also tasted off. I couldn't even get through the sixer. Maybe my palette has changed but ohhhhhh something ain't right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 15, 2014, 01:27:33 pm
It's just you.

The 10 most recent scores on Beer Advocate, all since August 13, have a mean of 4.42, in line with the 4.34 overall average.

And Beer Advocate is always right.


Quote from: Yada on August 15, 2014, 12:28:46 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 14, 2014, 09:05:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 13, 2014, 01:20:37 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 12, 2014, 08:10:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2014, 03:19:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Wings at DC Brau today...as of 2pm, they sold half of the cases.

I will never buy this beer again.

Something has happened in either their canning process or their recipe since they first released this beer as it basically tastes awful now IMO.

The one saving grace of that brewery was Wings, now there is nothing there worth drinking IMO.

is it still $18? because i never understood how they could justify such a ridiculous price.

It came to $20 a sixer after taxes. I was willing to pay that when it first came out, but I stand firm that either the recipe changed or something during the canning process is giving it a strange taste...as it warms up a bit, I find it undrinkable.

i don't doubt that the taste is different, but maybe they had an off batch (happens a lot with DIPAs), and i wonder if you had something before drinking that altered your pallet or the taste. 

That's two off batches then in the past 8 months. The last time I had Wings was around Xmas of last year and it also tasted off. I couldn't even get through the sixer. Maybe my palette has changed but ohhhhhh something ain't right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 16, 2014, 05:58:30 pm
Stone announces its three finalists for its East Coast brewery location...

 Columbus, Richmond, and Norfolk are indeed the three finalists
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 16, 2014, 09:41:36 pm
this was announced 2 weeks ago, and no one has shared this news yet?  y'all be slackin'.

Dear Friends,

Great news, Cantillon is expanding.
Since last year, we are looking for a new space and we got it.
The new building is located at 300m far from the brewery and, as you can see on the picture, it welcomed till the sixties a Lambic blender, Brasserie Limbourg.
The new space is big enough to dubbel the Cantillon's production.
Because we can't disturb the balance between new and old Lambic in our blend, we will increase the production each year to finally dubbel it in the four next year.
The wort, brewed at the Cantillon's brewery, will be transfered the day after the coolling and will matured for years in the new location.
As you know, we need at least two or three years to produce a beer. In this way to work, the next production increasing will take place during the season 2016-2017.
The building will be at our disposal next October, more news will follow.
Cheers,

Jean

(from Cantillon's FB page)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 12:06:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 16, 2014, 09:41:36 pm
this was announced 2 weeks ago, and no one has shared this news yet?  y'all be slackin'.

Dear Friends,

Great news, Cantillon is expanding.
Since last year, we are looking for a new space and we got it.
The new building is located at 300m far from the brewery and, as you can see on the picture, it welcomed till the sixties a Lambic blender, Brasserie Limbourg.
The new space is big enough to dubbel the Cantillon's production.
Because we can't disturb the balance between new and old Lambic in our blend, we will increase the production each year to finally dubbel it in the four next year.
The wort, brewed at the Cantillon's brewery, will be transfered the day after the coolling and will matured for years in the new location.
As you know, we need at least two or three years to produce a beer. In this way to work, the next production increasing will take place during the season 2016-2017.
The building will be at our disposal next October, more news will follow.
Cheers,

Jean

(from Cantillon's FB page)

1. that's a hilarious translation
2. they are still distributed by shelton brothers
3. doubling production? it already has a nearly non-existent presence in the US, what's doubling going to do?  a few extra people will be able to drop $30 for a mid-tier 5% sour bottle and then never see the product again?

yawn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 12:19:58 pm
and just a minor addition to the above ^^

the only bottles i've seen around WA are some of their mid-tier offerings.  lou pepe, iris, and fou foune have been seen on tap during special events, but they are usually crazy expensive and gone within minutes.  and of course, there are bottle offerings at brouwers and such, but the price tag is usually outrageous.  i just dont' see myself seeing out cantillon any more than i did before... not saying they don't make fantastic beer, but i'd rather save that money for a trip to belgium and get to enjoy it at the brewery sometime in the near future :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 18, 2014, 02:56:46 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 12:06:59 pm
a mid-tier 5% sour bottle

it's statements like that that make me disregard your opinions...  :P

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 12:19:58 pm
a trip to belgium and get to enjoy it at the brewery sometime in the near future :D

highly recommended.  i ended up hitting the brewery twice ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 18, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 18, 2014, 02:56:46 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 12:06:59 pm
a mid-tier 5% sour bottle

it's statements like that that make me disregard your opinions...  :P


almost all of their shit is 5%.

almost all of their 750ml is priced above $30.

almost all you'll ever see is their average ass shit and never the good stuff.

i just tell it how it is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 10:21:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 18, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
almost all of their shit is 5%.

but it ain't "shit"...

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 18, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
almost all of their 750ml is priced above $30.

true, but cantillon doesn't price their stuff at $30.  at the brewery a bottle of their standard gueuze is a little over 6 bucks.  it's the importers and the shops that are jacking up prices because of the rarity and the public's willingness to pay.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 18, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
almost all you'll ever see is their average ass shit and never the good stuff.

true, and this makes me sad too. 

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 18, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
i just tell it how it is.

you're expressing how you feel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 19, 2014, 10:38:58 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 10:21:48 am
but it ain't "shit"...
Hello! Is it me you're looking for?

Quote from: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 10:21:48 am
true, but cantillon doesn't price their stuff at $30.  at the brewery a bottle of their standard gueuze is a little over 6 bucks.  it's the importers and the shops that are jacking up prices because of the rarity and the public's willingness to pay.
I can see it in your eyes; I can see it in your smile.

Quote from: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 10:21:48 am
true, and this makes me sad too. 
You're all I've ever wanted and my arms are open wide...

Quote from: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 10:21:48 am
you're expressing how you feel.
Because you know just what to say and you know just what to do. (And I want to tell you so much
I love you!)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 19, 2014, 11:33:25 am
imperial, double ipas?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 02:26:34 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 19, 2014, 11:33:25 am
imperial, double ipas?

some are delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2014, 05:43:42 pm
Damn no middlling Cantillon beers, but this is a damn fine list for the Paradiso sour list Thurs-Sat.

Makes me wish I didn't have baseball tickets for Thursday night, or my kids TKD belt test Friday night.



Dupont:

    Birrificio Del Ducato Frambozschella
    De Struise Welmertz
    De Struise Ypres
    Freigest Abraxxxas
    Freigest Salzspeicher Sour Porter ? Cherry
    Haandbryggeriet Haandbakk
    Jolly Pumpkin Oro De Calabaza
    New Belgium La Folie
    Professor Fritz Briem 13th Century Grut Bier
    Siren Calypso Berliner Weisse
    Uinta Birthday Suit
    Wild Beer Co. Somerset Wild

Georgetown:

    Alvinne Wild Undressed
    Anderson Valley The Kimmie, The Yink & The Holy Gose
    The Bruery Rueuze
    The Bruery Sour in the Rye
    Dieu du Ciel Solstice d?Ete
    Jolly Pumpkin Noel de Calabaza
    Mikkeller SpontanFramboos
    Mikkeller SpontanGooseberry
    The Monarchy Methusalem Sour Altbier
    Ritterguts Cafe Original Gose
    Tilquin Gueuze 2013
    To Øl Yeastus Christ Supersour

Old Town:

    BFM √225
    BFM Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien 2012
    Birrificio Del Ducato Brett Peat Daydream
    Bockor Vanderghinste Oud Bruin
    Bockor Cuvée Des Jacobins Rouge
    The Bruery Hottenroth
    The Bruery Tart of Darkness
    Dogfish Head Festina Peche
    Hitachino Nest Anbai Ale
    Leipziger Gose Pineus
    Professor Fritz Briem 1809 Berliner Weisse
    Perennial Hopfentea
    Tilquin Gueuze 2014
    Verhaeghe Duchesse de Bourgogne

- See more at: http://www.eatyourpizza.com/#sthash.NbUjZLvt.dpuf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 19, 2014, 08:46:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 10:21:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 18, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
almost all of their shit is 5%.

but it ain't "shit"...

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 12:19:58 pm
not saying they don't make fantastic beer

Quote from: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 10:21:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 18, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
almost all of their 750ml is priced above $30.

true, but cantillon doesn't price their stuff at $30.  at the brewery a bottle of their standard gueuze is a little over 6 bucks.  it's the importers and the shops that are jacking up prices because of the rarity and the public's willingness to pay.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 12:06:59 pm
2. they are still distributed by shelton brothersz

Quote from: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 10:21:48 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 18, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
i just tell it how it is.

you're expressing how you feel.


no, i have zero feelings about my lack of, or future lack of, cantillon. and the reason for that is detailed above.  they could announce that zwanze day is now 365 days a week in every major city across the US and i would still give zero fucks about cantillon.  however, as i stated above, i would like to drink their beer because it is fantastic and i would like to drink said beers at their brewery at reasonable prices.

(edited for formatting to make sweetcell happy)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 19, 2014, 09:57:00 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on August 19, 2014, 08:46:02 pm

(edited for formatting to make sweetcell happy)


<insert big ol' bro-hug>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:03:57 pm
Best IPA in a can not called Heady Topper. Good lord does a fresh can of this tastes good.

(http://thebrewbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Brew-Buzz-Jai-Alai-5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2014, 07:14:05 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:03:57 pm
Best IPA in a can not called Heady Topper. Good lord does a fresh can of this tastes good.

(http://thebrewbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Brew-Buzz-Jai-Alai-5.jpg)

surely you mean half can?

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:33:43 pm
I did save some of my can for my wife to drink later. But I *do* get home first, so i may have given myself the bigger half.

Actually, I'm on home vacation. I had a whole one for lunch all by myself yesterday!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2014, 07:45:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:33:43 pm
I did save some of my can for my wife to drink later. But I *do* get home first, so i may have given myself the bigger half.

Actually, I'm on home vacation. I had a whole one for lunch all by myself yesterday!

You rebel!


Doesn't it lose the carbonation? Pardon my ignorance as I'm a rank amateur....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 08:31:16 pm
It would lose its carbonation over time, but i don't think an hour or two will make a big difference. This person experimented with the notion.

http://drinkcraftbeer.com/editorial/articles/how-long-will-an-open-bottle-of-beer-last.html

You were just in Florida, right? Hope you had some Cigar City when you were there!


Quote from: hutch on August 20, 2014, 07:45:16 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:33:43 pm
I did save some of my can for my wife to drink later. But I *do* get home first, so i may have given myself the bigger half.

Actually, I'm on home vacation. I had a whole one for lunch all by myself yesterday!

You rebel!


Doesn't it lose the carbonation? Pardon my ignorance as I'm a rank amateur....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 20, 2014, 11:18:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:33:43 pm
I had a whole one for lunch all by myself yesterday!

i think it's time for an intervention.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2014, 11:26:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2014, 11:18:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:33:43 pm
I had a whole one for lunch all by myself yesterday!

i think it's time for an intervention.

BOOM!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2014, 11:27:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 08:31:16 pm

You were just in Florida, right? Hope you had some Cigar City when you were there!



ha! that is funny..with my dad and my in law?? you don't know these people do you?  not to mention the beer selection in miami beach is atrocious.... one day somebody needs to explain florida to me.

i was lucky to drink a few stellas my entire visit!

at least my uncle brought over some real nice champagne one night...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 21, 2014, 12:09:28 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2014, 11:18:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:33:43 pm
I had a whole one for lunch all by myself yesterday!

i think it's time for an intervention.
POTW.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 21, 2014, 09:40:11 am
I'll explain Florida, and let you explain your in-laws.  ;)

I was in South Beach a few years ago (realize that's not the same as Miami Beach) and drank Lagunitas, Stone, Oskar Blues, Cigar City, and others. While it wasn't Metro DC, it wasn't rural West Virginia either.

Tampa/St Petersburg actually has a thriving local beer scene, or so I've read.

http://thebrewerybay.com/



Quote from: hutch on August 20, 2014, 11:27:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 08:31:16 pm

You were just in Florida, right? Hope you had some Cigar City when you were there!



ha! that is funny..with my dad and my in law?? you don't know these people do you?  not to mention the beer selection in miami beach is atrocious.... one day somebody needs to explain florida to me.

i was lucky to drink a few stellas my entire visit!

at least my uncle brought over some real nice champagne one night...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 21, 2014, 09:41:32 am
Or at least a bottle share.

That way I only have to drink one or two ounces at a time.  ;D

Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2014, 11:18:14 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:33:43 pm
I had a whole one for lunch all by myself yesterday!

i think it's time for an intervention.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2014, 09:55:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 21, 2014, 09:40:11 am
I'll explain Florida, and let you explain your in-laws.  ;)

I was in South Beach a few years ago (realize that's not the same as Miami Beach) and drank Lagunitas, Stone, Oskar Blues, Cigar City, and others. While it wasn't Metro DC, it wasn't rural West Virginia either.

Tampa/St Petersburg actually has a thriving local beer scene, or so I've read.

http://thebrewerybay.com/



Quote from: hutch on August 20, 2014, 11:27:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 08:31:16 pm

You were just in Florida, right? Hope you had some Cigar City when you were there!



ha! that is funny..with my dad and my in law?? you don't know these people do you?  not to mention the beer selection in miami beach is atrocious.... one day somebody needs to explain florida to me.

i was lucky to drink a few stellas my entire visit!

at least my uncle brought over some real nice champagne one night...

well i was very close to south beach.. 36th... and the one liquor store i went to was in south beach and they had jack diddly..

i'm sure there are places you can get good beer- obviously i didn't have the time to go on an expedition- but in general florida is a budweiser kind of place....



anyways...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 21, 2014, 10:05:06 am
rural west Virginia, is hot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 21, 2014, 10:17:10 am
Yes, it is a beer wasteland up there as I recall (think i was up that way too). I found a couple of good beer bars downtown and a Whole Foods, but thoe were all south of you, I think.

Quote from: hutch on August 21, 2014, 09:55:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 21, 2014, 09:40:11 am
I'll explain Florida, and let you explain your in-laws.  ;)

I was in South Beach a few years ago (realize that's not the same as Miami Beach) and drank Lagunitas, Stone, Oskar Blues, Cigar City, and others. While it wasn't Metro DC, it wasn't rural West Virginia either.

Tampa/St Petersburg actually has a thriving local beer scene, or so I've read.

http://thebrewerybay.com/



Quote from: hutch on August 20, 2014, 11:27:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 08:31:16 pm

You were just in Florida, right? Hope you had some Cigar City when you were there!



ha! that is funny..with my dad and my in law?? you don't know these people do you?  not to mention the beer selection in miami beach is atrocious.... one day somebody needs to explain florida to me.

i was lucky to drink a few stellas my entire visit!

at least my uncle brought over some real nice champagne one night...

well i was very close to south beach.. 36th... and the one liquor store i went to was in south beach and they had jack diddly..

i'm sure there are places you can get good beer- obviously i didn't have the time to go on an expedition- but in general florida is a budweiser kind of place....



anyways...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 21, 2014, 11:33:21 am
Quote from: hutch on August 21, 2014, 09:55:47 am
i'm sure there are places you can get good beer- obviously i didn't have the time to go on an expedition-

this from the guy who occasionally has this in his fridge
(http://www.beersearchparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/4e379a8f-e37a-40e2-8635-b6467a3fd995_300.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2014, 11:40:18 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 21, 2014, 11:33:21 am
Quote from: hutch on August 21, 2014, 09:55:47 am
i'm sure there are places you can get good beer- obviously i didn't have the time to go on an expedition-

this from the guy who occasionally has this in his fridge
(http://www.beersearchparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/4e379a8f-e37a-40e2-8635-b6467a3fd995_300.jpg)

I did not like it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 21, 2014, 11:47:45 am
good...that was the right answer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 21, 2014, 12:11:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:03:57 pm
Best IPA in a can not called Heady Topper. Good lord does a fresh can of this tastes good.

(http://thebrewbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Brew-Buzz-Jai-Alai-5.jpg)

Is this still available regularly at VA shops? I agree, definitely a top five can in my opinion and one of the highlights of visiting America's Wang.

Did you have a Wings yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 21, 2014, 12:12:02 pm
I would like to see hutch and sidehatch move in together (non-romantically) and live blog on here their Odd Couple-esque hijinks. I think its a really understated dynamic in this community.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2014, 12:30:07 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on August 21, 2014, 12:12:02 pm
I would like to see hutch and sidehatch move in together (non-romantically)

been done..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 21, 2014, 01:00:13 pm
Quote from: hutch on August 21, 2014, 12:30:07 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on August 21, 2014, 12:12:02 pm
I would like to see hutch and sidehatch move in together (non-romantically)

been done..

Just add an 80 year old British lady and two dogs.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 21, 2014, 01:42:46 pm
I'm currently drinking from the 7/21 batch of Jai Alai from NoVA. Love they that have the brew date on there.

No complaints on the Wings, thanks again for setting me up.

For me, I think the Jai Alai>Wings, and vice versa for my wife..but maybe it's apples to oranges...

Quote from: Yada on August 21, 2014, 12:11:06 pm
Quote from: James Ford on August 20, 2014, 07:03:57 pm
Best IPA in a can not called Heady Topper. Good lord does a fresh can of this tastes good.

(http://thebrewbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Brew-Buzz-Jai-Alai-5.jpg)

Is this still available regularly at VA shops? I agree, definitely a top five can in my opinion and one of the highlights of visiting America's Wang.

Did you have a Wings yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2014, 01:50:48 pm
I am drinking a yuengling.... but tonight i'll be among the first to try the new bee thousand beer made my dogfish.... 10%!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 21, 2014, 03:07:25 pm
Quote from: hutch on August 21, 2014, 01:50:48 pm
I am drinking a yuengling.... but tonight i'll be among the first to try the new bee thousand beer made my dogfish.... 10%!

speaking of...is anyone going tonight?
GBV at DFH (http://www.dogfish.com/community/blogfish/members/justin-williams/see-guided-by-voices-in-dogfish-head%E2%80%99s-hometown.htm)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2014, 09:28:22 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 21, 2014, 03:07:25 pm
Quote from: hutch on August 21, 2014, 01:50:48 pm
I am drinking a yuengling.... but tonight i'll be among the first to try the new bee thousand beer made my dogfish.... 10%!

speaking of...is anyone going tonight?
GBV at DFH (http://www.dogfish.com/community/blogfish/members/justin-williams/see-guided-by-voices-in-dogfish-head%E2%80%99s-hometown.htm)

well yeah i went... a good time... although driving to get there sure took a long time... on the way back i made it in 2 hours 20 which was pretty good I thought..its almost like going to rehoboth!

that 10% beer thousand is evil though! they were selling it for $5...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 09:56:16 am
I managed to hit 12 breweries on a recent trip to Boston/Maine/New Hampshire. In order of preference:

1. Oxbow, Newcastle ME..."rustic farmhouse ales" perfectly describes the setting and beers. Just an awesome experience to drive to "cowshit corner" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO-f7YjhzaE and drink some beer here.

2. Cambridge Brewing Company, Cambridge, MA: Lovely outdoor setting; both food and beer were outstanding.

3. Allagash, Portland, ME: Excellent beer, excellent free tour with free samples. Says it all.

4. Trillium, Boston MA: Excellent beer, free samples. Says it all.

5. Maine Beer Company, Freeport, ME: Fresh Lunch is the real deal. Sad I missed out on Dinner. Brewery and tasting room look like a factory outlet store, but who cares.

6. Night Shift, Everett, MA: Bit of a hike when limited to public transport, but their Berliner Weisse and Gose made it worth the trek.

7. Bissell Brothers, Portland, ME: Got to sample their much hyped Substance IPA...their last keg they had brewed kicked as the guy was pouring my beer...

8. Foundation, some very good farmhouse ales...

9. Smuttynose, Hampton, NH: Decent beer, free samples, but you were required to take the lame tour to get free samples.

10. Harpoon, Boston MA: Awesome pretzels that paired amazingly well with Harpoon Dark (their dunkel)

11. Infiniti, Portland, ME: Good food, decent sour.

12. Austin Street, Portland ME: interesting brett session ipa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 22, 2014, 10:32:17 am
Impressive!

Quote from: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 09:56:16 am
I managed to hit 12 breweries on a recent trip to Boston/Maine/New Hampshire. In order of preference:

1. Oxbow, Newcastle ME..."rustic farmhouse ales" perfectly describes the setting and beers. Just an awesome experience to drive to "cowshit corner" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO-f7YjhzaE and drink some beer here.

2. Cambridge Brewing Company, Cambridge, MA: Lovely outdoor setting; both food and beer were outstanding.

3. Allagash, Portland, ME: Excellent beer, excellent free tour with free samples. Says it all.

4. Trillium, Boston MA: Excellent beer, free samples. Says it all.

5. Maine Beer Company, Freeport, ME: Fresh Lunch is the real deal. Sad I missed out on Dinner. Brewery and tasting room look like a factory outlet store, but who cares.

6. Night Shift, Everett, MA: Bit of a hike when limited to public transport, but their Berliner Weisse and Gose made it worth the trek.

7. Bissell Brothers, Portland, ME: Got to sample their much hyped Substance IPA...their last keg they had brewed kicked as the guy was pouring my beer...

8. Foundation, some very good farmhouse ales...

9. Smuttynose, Hampton, NH: Decent beer, free samples, but you were required to take the lame tour to get free samples.

10. Harpoon, Boston MA: Awesome pretzels that paired amazingly well with Harpoon Dark (their dunkel)

11. Infiniti, Portland, ME: Good food, decent sour.

12. Austin Street, Portland ME: interesting brett session ipa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 22, 2014, 10:50:10 am
nice work! isn't CBC the best? when i worked in boston, i worked across the street.

Quote from: brennser on August 22, 2014, 10:32:17 am
Impressive!

Quote from: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 09:56:16 am
I managed to hit 12 breweries on a recent trip to Boston/Maine/New Hampshire. In order of preference:

1. Oxbow, Newcastle ME..."rustic farmhouse ales" perfectly describes the setting and beers. Just an awesome experience to drive to "cowshit corner" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO-f7YjhzaE and drink some beer here.

2. Cambridge Brewing Company, Cambridge, MA: Lovely outdoor setting; both food and beer were outstanding.

3. Allagash, Portland, ME: Excellent beer, excellent free tour with free samples. Says it all.

4. Trillium, Boston MA: Excellent beer, free samples. Says it all.

5. Maine Beer Company, Freeport, ME: Fresh Lunch is the real deal. Sad I missed out on Dinner. Brewery and tasting room look like a factory outlet store, but who cares.

6. Night Shift, Everett, MA: Bit of a hike when limited to public transport, but their Berliner Weisse and Gose made it worth the trek.

7. Bissell Brothers, Portland, ME: Got to sample their much hyped Substance IPA...their last keg they had brewed kicked as the guy was pouring my beer...

8. Foundation, some very good farmhouse ales...

9. Smuttynose, Hampton, NH: Decent beer, free samples, but you were required to take the lame tour to get free samples.

10. Harpoon, Boston MA: Awesome pretzels that paired amazingly well with Harpoon Dark (their dunkel)

11. Infiniti, Portland, ME: Good food, decent sour.

12. Austin Street, Portland ME: interesting brett session ipa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 03:43:49 pm
Loved CBC, as did my 73 year old mother!

The best New England IPA I had not called Lunch was Wormtown Be Hoppy. Recommended to me on the first stop of a mini pub-crawl through Cambridge and Boston I did with a former 9:30 Forum member now living in MA.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 22, 2014, 10:50:10 am
nice work! isn't CBC the best? when i worked in boston, i worked across the street.

Quote from: brennser on August 22, 2014, 10:32:17 am
Impressive!

Quote from: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 09:56:16 am
I managed to hit 12 breweries on a recent trip to Boston/Maine/New Hampshire. In order of preference:

1. Oxbow, Newcastle ME..."rustic farmhouse ales" perfectly describes the setting and beers. Just an awesome experience to drive to "cowshit corner" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO-f7YjhzaE and drink some beer here.

2. Cambridge Brewing Company, Cambridge, MA: Lovely outdoor setting; both food and beer were outstanding.

3. Allagash, Portland, ME: Excellent beer, excellent free tour with free samples. Says it all.

4. Trillium, Boston MA: Excellent beer, free samples. Says it all.

5. Maine Beer Company, Freeport, ME: Fresh Lunch is the real deal. Sad I missed out on Dinner. Brewery and tasting room look like a factory outlet store, but who cares.

6. Night Shift, Everett, MA: Bit of a hike when limited to public transport, but their Berliner Weisse and Gose made it worth the trek.

7. Bissell Brothers, Portland, ME: Got to sample their much hyped Substance IPA...their last keg they had brewed kicked as the guy was pouring my beer...

8. Foundation, some very good farmhouse ales...

9. Smuttynose, Hampton, NH: Decent beer, free samples, but you were required to take the lame tour to get free samples.

10. Harpoon, Boston MA: Awesome pretzels that paired amazingly well with Harpoon Dark (their dunkel)

11. Infiniti, Portland, ME: Good food, decent sour.

12. Austin Street, Portland ME: interesting brett session ipa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 22, 2014, 10:00:46 pm
wormtown is >technically< my hometown brewery... worcester, ma.  but they are gypsy brewers and i never really have seen much of their stuff when i visit the family. i'll have to keep a lookout for fresh be hoppy when i'm home.

did you drink any jack's abbey?  they might be my favorite brewery, period.

Quote from: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 03:43:49 pm
Loved CBC, as did my 73 year old mother!

The best New England IPA I had not called Lunch was Wormtown Be Hoppy. Recommended to me on the first stop of a mini pub-crawl through Cambridge and Boston I did with a former 9:30 Forum member now living in MA.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 22, 2014, 10:50:10 am
nice work! isn't CBC the best? when i worked in boston, i worked across the street.

Quote from: brennser on August 22, 2014, 10:32:17 am
Impressive!

Quote from: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 09:56:16 am
I managed to hit 12 breweries on a recent trip to Boston/Maine/New Hampshire. In order of preference:

1. Oxbow, Newcastle ME..."rustic farmhouse ales" perfectly describes the setting and beers. Just an awesome experience to drive to "cowshit corner" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO-f7YjhzaE and drink some beer here.

2. Cambridge Brewing Company, Cambridge, MA: Lovely outdoor setting; both food and beer were outstanding.

3. Allagash, Portland, ME: Excellent beer, excellent free tour with free samples. Says it all.

4. Trillium, Boston MA: Excellent beer, free samples. Says it all.

5. Maine Beer Company, Freeport, ME: Fresh Lunch is the real deal. Sad I missed out on Dinner. Brewery and tasting room look like a factory outlet store, but who cares.

6. Night Shift, Everett, MA: Bit of a hike when limited to public transport, but their Berliner Weisse and Gose made it worth the trek.

7. Bissell Brothers, Portland, ME: Got to sample their much hyped Substance IPA...their last keg they had brewed kicked as the guy was pouring my beer...

8. Foundation, some very good farmhouse ales...

9. Smuttynose, Hampton, NH: Decent beer, free samples, but you were required to take the lame tour to get free samples.

10. Harpoon, Boston MA: Awesome pretzels that paired amazingly well with Harpoon Dark (their dunkel)

11. Infiniti, Portland, ME: Good food, decent sour.

12. Austin Street, Portland ME: interesting brett session ipa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 10:25:04 pm
Picked up a four pack of Mass Rising and two Hoponious Union singles. Good stuff. Had one of the latter with dinner tonight. Yum.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 22, 2014, 10:00:46 pm
wormtown is >technically< my hometown brewery... worcester, ma.  but they are gypsy brewers and i never really have seen much of their stuff when i visit the family. i'll have to keep a lookout for fresh be hoppy when i'm home.

did you drink any jack's abbey?  they might be my favorite brewery, period.

Quote from: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 03:43:49 pm
Loved CBC, as did my 73 year old mother!

The best New England IPA I had not called Lunch was Wormtown Be Hoppy. Recommended to me on the first stop of a mini pub-crawl through Cambridge and Boston I did with a former 9:30 Forum member now living in MA.

Quote from: stevewizzle on August 22, 2014, 10:50:10 am
nice work! isn't CBC the best? when i worked in boston, i worked across the street.

Quote from: brennser on August 22, 2014, 10:32:17 am
Impressive!

Quote from: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 09:56:16 am
I managed to hit 12 breweries on a recent trip to Boston/Maine/New Hampshire. In order of preference:

1. Oxbow, Newcastle ME..."rustic farmhouse ales" perfectly describes the setting and beers. Just an awesome experience to drive to "cowshit corner" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO-f7YjhzaE and drink some beer here.

2. Cambridge Brewing Company, Cambridge, MA: Lovely outdoor setting; both food and beer were outstanding.

3. Allagash, Portland, ME: Excellent beer, excellent free tour with free samples. Says it all.

4. Trillium, Boston MA: Excellent beer, free samples. Says it all.

5. Maine Beer Company, Freeport, ME: Fresh Lunch is the real deal. Sad I missed out on Dinner. Brewery and tasting room look like a factory outlet store, but who cares.

6. Night Shift, Everett, MA: Bit of a hike when limited to public transport, but their Berliner Weisse and Gose made it worth the trek.

7. Bissell Brothers, Portland, ME: Got to sample their much hyped Substance IPA...their last keg they had brewed kicked as the guy was pouring my beer...

8. Foundation, some very good farmhouse ales...

9. Smuttynose, Hampton, NH: Decent beer, free samples, but you were required to take the lame tour to get free samples.

10. Harpoon, Boston MA: Awesome pretzels that paired amazingly well with Harpoon Dark (their dunkel)

11. Infiniti, Portland, ME: Good food, decent sour.

12. Austin Street, Portland ME: interesting brett session ipa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 25, 2014, 08:49:47 pm
With all due respect to Zombie Dust, I now have a new favorite pale ale. OMG, this is so good. Can't wait to try the Galaxy Hopped version I also picked up.

(http://cdn.beeradvocate.com/im/beers/88949.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 25, 2014, 11:20:04 pm
EVERY STATE IN THE USA, RANKED BY ITS BEER
http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/every-state-in-the-usa-ranked-by-its-beer

MD > VA, suckaz.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 25, 2014, 11:22:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 25, 2014, 11:20:04 pm
MD > VA, suckaz.
Hail, hail to Michigan: the Leaders and (4th) Best!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 25, 2014, 11:34:26 pm
I'm going up to Michigan the first weekend in October. If anyone has any beer they want me to find for ya, I'll spend upwards of an hour attempting to do so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 26, 2014, 08:52:19 am
Sounds like someone is gunning for an invite to the next 9:30 Forum Bottle Share!

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on August 25, 2014, 11:34:26 pm
I'm going up to Michigan the first weekend in October. If anyone has any beer they want me to find for ya, I'll spend upwards of an hour attempting to do so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 26, 2014, 08:53:07 am
Good luck at finding a grocery store to but the beer in!

Quote from: sweetcell on August 25, 2014, 11:20:04 pm
EVERY STATE IN THE USA, RANKED BY ITS BEER
http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/every-state-in-the-usa-ranked-by-its-beer

MD > VA, suckaz.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 26, 2014, 09:16:13 am
Quote from: James Ford on August 26, 2014, 08:52:19 am
Sounds like someone is gunning for an invite to the next 9:30 Forum Bottle Share!
I will respectfully decline that, however, if a MD (non-ABC state) resident would like to facilitate me purchasing scotch at the 30% discount your non-backwards-ass state's liquor policies affords, we can certainly work out something there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 26, 2014, 03:02:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 25, 2014, 11:20:04 pm
EVERY STATE IN THE USA, RANKED BY ITS BEER
http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/every-state-in-the-usa-ranked-by-its-beer

MD > VA, suckaz.

i'm in montana right now, and i wish it's ranking was true.

also, oklahoma being so high solely for prairie is hilarious. they barely distribute to their own state.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 26, 2014, 04:07:58 pm
I guess they've never heard of Gahndi Bot? Idiots.

39. Connecticut
Not a ton happening here, but Olde Burnside makes a uniquely sessionable Scottish Ale, and also sells longswords on its website.

Alabama ahead of Alaska...really?

Giving a shout out to Shipyard (wtf) but not Maine Beer Company or Oxbow?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 27, 2014, 09:27:32 am
My local pub owner contacted me yesterday to inform me that one of my rare beer "likes" -- Bells Oracle -- had come in. Enjoyed one and even doubled down with a Bell's Mars (although the label's prettiness was nothing to write home about). Both were really good. To my untrained palette, I was stunned the Mars was a DIPA from how smooth it was. A thoroughly enjoyable bi-annual beer drinking foray.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 27, 2014, 10:21:25 am
no,bo,dy cares
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 27, 2014, 11:38:13 am
anyone used one of these...seems like a great way to get a growler to last a few more days

thinking of putting it on my x-mas list as it's $114 for cap/growler

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/467385/photo-main.jpg?1397811130)

DrinkTanks Growler with Keg Cap - Enjoy beer exactly as it was intended. Cold. Fresh. Carbonated. - 64oz Capacity
 by DrinkTanks
Link (http://amzn.com/B00JRKK4VY)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 27, 2014, 12:07:41 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 27, 2014, 11:38:13 am
anyone used one of these...seems like a great way to get a growler to last a few more days

the video is pretty informative: http://www.drinktanks.com/growler-faqs/

seems like a cool gadget, but a damn expensive one.  not sure the ability to enjoy a growler a few extra days is worth that much to me.  then again, i don't drink growlers that often so i'm not the target demographic here...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 27, 2014, 12:12:54 pm
Quote from: walkonby on August 27, 2014, 10:21:25 am
no,bo,dy cares
Well, I NEVER...!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 27, 2014, 12:13:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 27, 2014, 12:07:41 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 27, 2014, 11:38:13 am
anyone used one of these...seems like a great way to get a growler to last a few more days

the video is pretty informative: http://www.drinktanks.com/growler-faqs/

seems like a cool gadget, but a damn expensive one.  not sure the ability to enjoy a growler a few extra days is worth that much to me.  then again, i don't drink growlers that often so i'm not the target demographic here...

what he said... if you can't finish a growler in 48 hours, don't buy one! However, atomic's growlers last him up to 20 days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 27, 2014, 12:36:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 27, 2014, 12:13:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 27, 2014, 12:07:41 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on August 27, 2014, 11:38:13 am
anyone used one of these...seems like a great way to get a growler to last a few more days

the video is pretty informative: http://www.drinktanks.com/growler-faqs/

seems like a cool gadget, but a damn expensive one.  not sure the ability to enjoy a growler a few extra days is worth that much to me.  then again, i don't drink growlers that often so i'm not the target demographic here...

what he said... if you can't finish a growler in 48 hours, don't buy one! However, atomic's growlers last him up to 20 days.

James Ford's last a while... even sharing with his wife, and in her absence young daughter, you still have to think that drinking a growler at intervals of 4 ounces has to take a while...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 27, 2014, 12:37:38 pm
that reminds me i have a growler from the mad fox i need to start using again....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 27, 2014, 12:47:49 pm
Speaking of growlers, OTWOA on draft at DC Brau this Saturday.

Forum meetup?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 27, 2014, 12:54:21 pm
Has anybody ever been th Tired Hands up near Philly?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on August 27, 2014, 01:02:33 pm
I have this growler from the portland growler company
http://i.imgur.com/DXupUG6.jpg

and this one from hydro flask
http://i.imgur.com/pxNlq9n.png

The hydro flask can keep the beer cold all day without needing to be refrigerated. I looked into that drink tanks growler when I was buying the hydro flask, but reviews said the first beer usually came out very foamy. It seems too gimmicky. A growler is easy enough to just pour and I usually finish them the same day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 27, 2014, 02:23:10 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on August 27, 2014, 01:02:33 pm
I have this growler from the portland growler company
http://i.imgur.com/DXupUG6.jpg

that's a dang pretty beer vessel right there.

i inherited a Starr Hill growler, identical to this one but with the brewery's logo on it:
 
 (http://lghttp.19259.nexcesscdn.net/80946D/testing/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/700x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1233.png)
 
i really like the seal that the rubber gasket creates.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 27, 2014, 02:26:02 pm
in other beer news, Sam Adams will be bringing KMF Grand Cru to DC in October:

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/samuel-adams-debuts-2014-kosmic-mother-funk-grand-cru.206572/
http://www.samueladams.com/kmf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 03, 2014, 09:14:02 am
x-post:

!!! w/Brett
Snallygaster beer festival
navy yards, DC
sept 13
http://www.snallygasterdc.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 03, 2014, 09:31:24 am
I'm heading to Boulder/Denver next week, and I'm overwhelmed with choices.  Any "must-visit" recommendations?  I prefer to stay on the Boulder side of things, but am willing to travel to Denver if there's a compelling reason.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 03, 2014, 09:34:03 am
james ford gave a complete run-down of his CO trip a few weeks back, so scroll back a dozen pages or so in this thread and you'll have a ton of recommendations.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 03, 2014, 09:53:54 am
My must hits:

Denver:

1. Crooked Stave Tasting Room (if you like sours)
2. Hops and Pie Restaurant (if you like great food/pizza to pair with your beer from a great draft list)
3. Thirsty Monk Belgian Cafe (if you like the best Belgian beers (actually from Belgium) at half price for lunch)
4. Freshcraft (excellent food/draft list, good happy hour specials)
5. Dry Dock Brewing (very good at a  number of styles, a bit out of the city proper)

*also if you do go to Denver, check the Falling Rock draft list. Which unfortunately gets update no plae online


Arvada:
1. Yak and Yeti Brewpub/Restaurant (if you like an outstanding IPA paired with excellent spicy Indian food)

Fort Collins:
1. New Belgium Brewery (if you like an outstanding, entertaining tour with plenty of free samples...note, tours fill up way in advance, book ahead...not many brewery only options though, and NB is of course widely distrusted around here)
2. Odell Brewery (if you like a cool tasting room with loads of interesting choices that don't get bottled (actually none of their bottles make it to the East Coast)
3. Funkwerks Brewery (if you like saisons...definitely the third choice for Ft Collins, but if you go there you might as well do this one too)

Boulder:
Actually, I have no "must hits" here. I was very sick the day we were in Boulder, so I'm biased because of that. Avery Brewery is probably your best bet. Comparable to Odell, though I liked Avery less. People rave about Backcounty Pizza...Excellent draft list but the pizza was mediocre.

More details in post from mid-July.

Quote from: grateful on September 03, 2014, 09:31:24 am
I'm heading to Boulder/Denver next week, and I'm overwhelmed with choices.  Any "must-visit" recommendations?  I prefer to stay on the Boulder side of things, but am willing to travel to Denver if there's a compelling reason.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 03, 2014, 10:01:02 am
the tour and tasting room at Avery get rave reviews.  their beers might not be #1, but at least it will be an aesthetically pleasing experience (could be a big plus if you're dragging along non-beer geeks).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 03, 2014, 11:12:25 am
I had forgotten about the CO trip summary upthread.  Sorry about the repeat.  I'll be going out there for work, so I'll be limited to evenings...  Thanks for the recommendations!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on September 03, 2014, 01:16:35 pm
Others to hit in Boulder:

Sanitas
Fate
Upslope
Bru

And in Lafayette:  Post
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 04, 2014, 08:15:04 am
One thought I had about Avery (and maybe some of these as well) is that you'd need a car or cab to get there from downtown. If you're looking for something near the downtown pedestrian mall, Mountain Sun would probably be a good bet (though I didn't make it there myself).

Quote from: Lazer Guided Melodies on September 03, 2014, 01:16:35 pm
Others to hit in Boulder:

Sanitas
Fate
Upslope
Bru

And in Lafayette:  Post
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 04, 2014, 11:45:38 am
http://www.bear-flavored.com/2014/09/chickens-and-funk-plan-bee-farm-brewery.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 04, 2014, 03:05:16 pm
Victory to open a brewpub in Leesburg. Nice.

http://www.victorybeer.com/news/victory-brewing-company-announces-fourth-brewpub/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 05, 2014, 11:02:23 am
outlet shopping just got WAY more appealing

Quote from: James Ford on September 04, 2014, 03:05:16 pm
Victory to open a brewpub in Leesburg. Nice.

http://www.victorybeer.com/news/victory-brewing-company-announces-fourth-brewpub/


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 10, 2014, 09:13:00 am
http://firstwefeast.com/drink/dating-a-beer-nerd/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 10, 2014, 09:53:13 am
wow, some of those ring uncomfortable true. luckily, I have a partner who supports the cause and has as many beer tshirts as I do.

Quote from: Yada on September 10, 2014, 09:13:00 am
http://firstwefeast.com/drink/dating-a-beer-nerd/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 10, 2014, 09:54:13 am
very, very happy to see this beer return...

DOWNINGTOWN, PA, September 4, 2014 ?Victory Brewing Company® (Victory) is pleased to announce the release of Mooonglow Weizenbock, a bottle conditioned German style ale, rich in malt tones, spicy fruit aromas and warming flavors which combine to create the perfect autumnal elixir.

Originating from German brewing tradition, this 'bock' beer utilizes German hops and a strain of 'weiss' ('wheat') beer yeast, which plays a major role in charging the ale with flavors reminiscent of clove, vanilla and honey. As per traditional German style conventions, it is comprised of two different types of malted wheat totaling nearly 60% of the grist among the seven varieties of malted grains employed. This recipe, with its historic roots, revitalizes a refreshing, well-made style of ale that is rare today.

Drinking a Moonglow Weizenbock is much like traveling back in time, due to the strict, age-old, quality controlled brewing process it adheres to. Simultaneously, the brew stands out amongst the current trend of hoppy, American ales with a fresh, exciting flavor profile, driven by malt and yeast. Harvest fruit flavors conjuring fresh apple and pear lead into notes of caramel and toffee, resolving into spicy characteristics that leave a satisfying impression comparable to frothy banana bread in this tempting ale.

Moonglow Weizenbock, has an ABV of 8.7% and is available at craft beer bars, bottle shops, beer distributors and major gourmet grocery stores throughout Victory?s 35 state distribution footprint, with a suggested retail price of $9.99 and will be sold in 12 ounce 4 packs. Use Victory?s Beerfinder to discover a nearby location, or download the free Victory Mobile app for Android or iPhone.

?This beer is a vivid example of what our company is all about ? the exploration of German brewing traditions combined with our individual creative ingenuity,? said President and Brewmaster, Bill Covaleski. ?Whether clearing new paths or rediscovering old roads via glow of the autumnal moon, this is a product that celebrates the spirit of that journey.?

About Victory Brewing Company

Victory Brewing Company is a craft brewery headquartered in Downingtown, Pennsylvania. Founded by childhood friends, Bill Covaleski and Ron Barchet, who met on a school bus in 1973, Victory officially opened its doors in February of 1996. In addition to the original Downingtown brewery and brewpub, Victory recently opened a second state-of-the-art brewery in Parkesburg, PA to expand production capabilities and serve fans of fully flavored beers in 35 states with innovative beers melding European ingredients and technology with American creativity. To learn more about Victory Brewing Company visit us on the web at www.victorybeer.com.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 11, 2014, 11:16:53 am
(http://www.beerforum.co.kr/files/attach/images/1434/423/348/b851da3e6bcde04a115fb4407c6cfdd3.jpg)

(http://www.shopbelgium.net/792-850-thickbox/bouteille-de-duchesse-de-bourgogne-25cl.jpg)


Split one of each of these with my wife with dinner last night.

Paired it with a rather unhealthy fettucini alfredo dish and healthy arugala salad I made.

The Jacobins Rouge went better with the food. Just and awesome sour.

The Duchesse is a bit too sweet, not bad, more of a dessert beer, imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 11, 2014, 05:12:46 pm
anybody, ever have this thing i saw, the other day called

(http://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Avery-5-Monks-Bourbon-Barrel-Aged-Belgian-Quintupel.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 11, 2014, 06:31:00 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2014/09/11/drink-up-a-guide-to-local-fall-beer-festivals/?hpid=z13
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 11, 2014, 11:28:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 10, 2014, 09:13:00 am
http://firstwefeast.com/drink/dating-a-beer-nerd/

#8 + #10 ring true for me. and that's a bad ass local option t-shirt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 12, 2014, 09:58:42 am
Quote from: Yada on September 10, 2014, 09:13:00 am
http://firstwefeast.com/drink/dating-a-beer-nerd/

really good list, but i have a few edits:

6) ?YOU?LL FIND YOURSELF WITH NOTHING TO DO FOR THE FIRST TEN MINUTES YOU SIT DOWN AT A BAR AS HE METICULOUSLY STUDIES THE BEER MENU.?

false.  beer nerds look up the bar's online beer menu beforehand.  a beer nerds walks in an already knows what he wants to try.

7) ?HE?LL NEVER WANT TO TAKE PHOTOS OF YOU?ONLY OF HIS BEERS.?

not quite: he'll only take pictures of you with beer.  so if you want to show up on his instagram feed, point out how cute you look holding a pint of whatever pretentious beer he ordered for you.

#8 doesn't apply to me as i've never gotten into Ontappd, but i realize i'm in the minority on this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 12, 2014, 10:37:23 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 12, 2014, 09:58:42 am
false.  beer nerds look up the bar's online beer menu beforehand.  a beer nerds walks in an already knows what he wants to try.

guilty of that, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 12, 2014, 10:44:10 am
I'm more likely to have a list of three or four that I want to free sample before choosing.

And my wife is the photographer in the family, so it's usually my ugly hand holding the beer.

Quote from: stevewizzle on September 12, 2014, 10:37:23 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 12, 2014, 09:58:42 am
false.  beer nerds look up the bar's online beer menu beforehand.  a beer nerds walks in an already knows what he wants to try.

guilty of that, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on September 12, 2014, 01:19:19 pm
That Jacobins looks pretty awesome Mr. Ford. Where can you find that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 12, 2014, 01:29:37 pm
Single bottles at Fairfax Whole Foods.

I also think I saw it when I went beer shopping in Richmond.

And Binny's in Chicago has it in four packs if you're out that way.


Quote from: Unsanity on September 12, 2014, 01:19:19 pm
That Jacobins looks pretty awesome Mr. Ford. Where can you find that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 12, 2014, 02:09:26 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 11, 2014, 05:12:46 pm
anybody, ever have this thing i saw, the other day called

(http://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Avery-5-Monks-Bourbon-Barrel-Aged-Belgian-Quintupel.png)

Arrgh.  Passed up a visit to Avery this week.  OTOH, living and breathing Odell :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 12, 2014, 03:38:19 pm
where i saw it, it was 13 a bottle.  too much?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 12, 2014, 03:38:49 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 12, 2014, 03:38:19 pm
where i saw it, it was 13 a bottle.  too much?

stick to the soda pop and hot dogs, walky.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 12, 2014, 03:43:39 pm
god, i love, hot dogs and soda pop
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 17, 2014, 08:42:08 am
Hmmm, Nats thread or beer thread?

Ain't no party like a gluten free malted sorghum beer party


https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/512068983244460032/photo/1
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 17, 2014, 10:32:06 am
I'm not sure if this belongs in the beer thread or Vansmack's vanity thread...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/16/living/strip-club-microbrewery-eatocracy/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 18, 2014, 12:16:53 pm
very slick website by DuClaw: http://www.duclaw.com/buildingthebeast/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 18, 2014, 03:30:33 pm
has anybody had this beer, that i saw, where the woman, behind the counter said was sought after and good, while i was snagging up all the founders double trouble she had.  god, i love, that beer, but know nothing bout this:

(http://www.brewchief.com/pics/review/1050.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 18, 2014, 03:47:55 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 18, 2014, 03:30:33 pm
has anybody had this beer, that i saw, where the woman, behind the counter said was sought after and good, while i was snagging up all the founders double trouble she had.  god, i love, that beer, but know nothing bout this:

(http://www.brewchief.com/pics/review/1050.jpg)

Happy to hear you fell off the wagon, friend!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 18, 2014, 03:55:39 pm
Sweetcell...have we had Even More Jesus at a bottleshare? I can't even remember.

This is my favorite Evil Twin beer, and one of my very favorite non-barrel aged stouts. Though they do make a barrel aged version of this, that I'm sure is amazing.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24300/80291/ (Imperial Biscotti Break)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 18, 2014, 04:52:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 18, 2014, 03:47:55 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 18, 2014, 03:30:33 pm
has anybody had this beer, that i saw, where the woman, behind the counter said was sought after and good, while i was snagging up all the founders double trouble she had.  god, i love, that beer, but know nothing bout this:

(http://www.brewchief.com/pics/review/1050.jpg)

Happy to hear you fell off the wagon, friend!

it stands as a simple, step off, to scope the scenery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 18, 2014, 06:05:57 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 18, 2014, 03:55:39 pm
Sweetcell...have we had Even More Jesus at a bottleshare? I can't even remember.

yup, i brought it to one at brensser's place.  we agreed that the EMJ was really sweet.  probably a solid dessert beer on its own, but didn't fit in with the slew of hoppy and funky beers we were having at the time.  the missus loved it.

Quote from: James Ford on September 18, 2014, 03:55:39 pm
This is my favorite Evil Twin beer, and one of my very favorite non-barrel aged stouts. Though they do make a barrel aged version of this, that I'm sure is amazing.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24300/80291/ (Imperial Biscotti Break)

i have a bottle of bourbon-barrel aged IBB waiting for me in my in-law's basement in VT ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 19, 2014, 09:26:12 am
Speaking of whether this is Nats or Beer thread appropriate, I hadn't much kept up with the DC Breweries lately, other than popping out to DC Brau for Wings releases.  However, at a game last week, I went by the DC Brews stand at Nationals Park and got Southern Belle from 3 Stars. 

Holy crap.  Maybe it was the ballpark offerings lowering my standards or the lovely fall feel to the weather, but I was very pleasantly surprised by that beer.  One of the best things I've had in quite a while.  Fairly hefty Imperial brown, good roasty chocolate taste, delightful mouth feel.

It's available for fills at the brewery and I may find myself heading that way tomorrow to grab some.  Give it a try if you haven't had it yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2014, 10:11:54 am
Quote from: imbecile on September 19, 2014, 09:26:12 am
Speaking of whether this is Nats or Beer thread appropriate, I hadn't much kept up with the DC Breweries lately, other than popping out to DC Brau for Wings releases.  However, at a game last week, I went by the DC Brews stand at Nationals Park and got Southern Belle from 3 Stars. 

Holy crap.  Maybe it was the ballpark offerings lowering my standards or the lovely fall feel to the weather, but I was very pleasantly surprised by that beer.  One of the best things I've had in quite a while.  Fairly hefty Imperial brown, good roasty chocolate taste, delightful mouth feel.

It's available for fills at the brewery and I may find myself heading that way tomorrow to grab some.  Give it a try if you haven't had it yet.

I concur. I'm a pretty big fan of most of their beer. I had the citra and lemon peel saison with oysters last night and it was quite delicious as well.

I was duped into going to Right Proper again last night, that beer is awful!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2014, 02:36:17 pm
if you drink Natty Boh or Pabst, you support Putin.  you also have no taste in beer.

Pass the Brewski? Pabst Sold to Russian Company
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/pass-brewski-pabst-sold-russian-company-n207226

(http://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/pointimages.cir.ca/f4b/f0cb26d34f52be7ae4cf817a436e.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2014, 03:16:28 pm
man that is a long list of shitty beers
but 20-30 years ago...that was local craft beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 19, 2014, 03:18:23 pm
Mr. Boh put food on our table for 39 years.  I sorta have a soft spot for the guy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 19, 2014, 09:04:26 pm
Right Proper>Three Stars!

"That beer"? Right Proper actually makes more than one beer!

Quote from: Yada on September 19, 2014, 10:11:54 am
Quote from: imbecile on September 19, 2014, 09:26:12 am
Speaking of whether this is Nats or Beer thread appropriate, I hadn't much kept up with the DC Breweries lately, other than popping out to DC Brau for Wings releases.  However, at a game last week, I went by the DC Brews stand at Nationals Park and got Southern Belle from 3 Stars. 

Holy crap.  Maybe it was the ballpark offerings lowering my standards or the lovely fall feel to the weather, but I was very pleasantly surprised by that beer.  One of the best things I've had in quite a while.  Fairly hefty Imperial brown, good roasty chocolate taste, delightful mouth feel.

It's available for fills at the brewery and I may find myself heading that way tomorrow to grab some.  Give it a try if you haven't had it yet.

I concur. I'm a pretty big fan of most of their beer. I had the citra and lemon peel saison with oysters last night and it was quite delicious as well.

I was duped into going to Right Proper again last night, that beer is awful!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 19, 2014, 09:06:53 pm
I just bought three large bombers of sour beer. What the hell was i thinking? The bill looks like a wine bill.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2014, 10:29:27 pm
What did you get?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2014, 07:38:04 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 19, 2014, 09:04:26 pm
Right Proper>Three Stars!

"That beer"? Right Proper actually makes more than one beer!

Quote from: Yada on September 19, 2014, 10:11:54 am
Quote from: imbecile on September 19, 2014, 09:26:12 am
Speaking of whether this is Nats or Beer thread appropriate, I hadn't much kept up with the DC Breweries lately, other than popping out to DC Brau for Wings releases.  However, at a game last week, I went by the DC Brews stand at Nationals Park and got Southern Belle from 3 Stars. 

Holy crap.  Maybe it was the ballpark offerings lowering my standards or the lovely fall feel to the weather, but I was very pleasantly surprised by that beer.  One of the best things I've had in quite a while.  Fairly hefty Imperial brown, good roasty chocolate taste, delightful mouth feel.

It's available for fills at the brewery and I may find myself heading that way tomorrow to grab some.  Give it a try if you haven't had it yet.

I concur. I'm a pretty big fan of most of their beer. I had the citra and lemon peel saison with oysters last night and it was quite delicious as well.

I was duped into going to Right Proper again last night, that beer is awful!

I haven't found one beer there worth having twice, so.... that beer = their beer in my original post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 20, 2014, 08:05:17 am
At Right Proper or at the grocery store?

At Right Proper, I've stuck mostly to saisons, and enjoyed them all. They also had a beer that was a take on a radler that was good.

At the grocery store, I got:

The Bruery Oude Tart 750ml
Weyerbacher Riserva '14 750mL
Panil Barriquee 750mL

all in the $18-22 range.

I should have just stuck with the three 330ml bottles of Cuvee de Jacobins Rouge for $6.99 each.


Quote from: sweetcell on September 19, 2014, 10:29:27 pm
What did you get?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 21, 2014, 08:13:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 19, 2014, 02:36:17 pm
if you drink Natty Boh or Pabst, you support Putin.  you also have no taste in beer.

Pass the Brewski? Pabst Sold to Russian Company
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/pass-brewski-pabst-sold-russian-company-n207226

(http://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/pointimages.cir.ca/f4b/f0cb26d34f52be7ae4cf817a436e.jpg)

these beers are not meant for taste... they are meant for crushing in large quantities.

speaking of natty boh, classique by stillwater is a play on an old natty boh recipe modified with the use of a saison yeast.  it's excellent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 22, 2014, 08:31:13 am
I've never understood how people can "crush in large quantities" beer that tastes horrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 22, 2014, 12:01:55 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 21, 2014, 08:13:55 pm
these beers are not meant for taste... they are meant for crushing in large quantities.

you're right.  it comes down to what you want your beer to be: something you taste and intrinsically enjoy, or a vehicle for efficient intoxication.  given the gap between these two interpretations it's not surprising that neither side understands the other.

Quote from: stevewizzle on September 21, 2014, 08:13:55 pm
speaking of natty boh, classique by stillwater is a play on an old natty boh recipe modified with the use of a saison yeast.  it's excellent.

right, but the saison yeast - arguably the most flavorful style of yeast out there - makes up for a boring grain bill.  since you're getting almost nothing from the grains and hops, the big saison yeast has a blank canvas to explode upon.

i haven't tried classique yet, need to track it down.

Quote from: James Ford on September 22, 2014, 08:31:13 am
I've never understood how people can "crush in large quantities" beer that tastes horrible.

the reason why they can is because it doesn't have much of a taste.  i don't think they taste bad, they just taste boring.  with their light body (aka "watery") there isn't anything to make you feel full.  i can down a gallon of water, i can't down a gallon of chocolate milkshake.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 22, 2014, 01:03:07 pm
Mmmm. I'd (try to) drink a gallon of chocolate milkshake before I'd try to drink a gallon of PBR.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 22, 2014, 01:22:21 pm
Had this on tap recently, thought it was great

http://ithacabeer.com/flower-power/?age-verified=f8d4fd1589
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 23, 2014, 01:32:38 pm
This one is worth posting simply because it's a scroll down and not a slide show.

The 15 best beers to drink this Fall.

http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/the-15-best-beers-to-drink-this-fall-founders-sierra-nevada-firestone-walker-seasonal-beer


I was hoping they'd completely avoid pumpkin beers, but they only included one, so I can live with that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 23, 2014, 01:49:51 pm
Quote from: James Ford on September 23, 2014, 01:32:38 pm
This one is worth posting simply because it's a scroll down and not a slide show.

The 15 best beers to drink this Fall.

http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/the-15-best-beers-to-drink-this-fall-founders-sierra-nevada-firestone-walker-seasonal-beer


I was hoping they'd completely avoid pumpkin beers, but they only included one, so I can live with that.

I had Hop Knife over the weekend and thought it was pretty tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 23, 2014, 02:22:30 pm
in case you wanted to know what the big boys are up to:

Labatt is planning an expensive, intentionally misleading ad campaign for Shock Top
http://bensbeerblog.com/2014/09/22/labatt-is-planning-an-expensive-intentionally-misleading-ad-campaign-for-shock-top/

interesting factoid: their research shows that "75 percent of consumers believe Shock Top is from a small/unknown brewer.?  crafty indeed!

(and before someone makes the predictable and oh-so-witty comment about this being in canada so why care, Labatt is owned by Anheuser-Busch InBev.  this ain't local news...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 23, 2014, 04:06:20 pm
LOL, but good list.

(http://draftmag.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/130910-SKHarp-417cc.jpg)

http://draftmag.com/features/25-breweries-you-should-know/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 23, 2014, 05:36:18 pm
has anyone come across a picture of Engert where he doesn't look like a complete douche nozzle?

i haven't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 23, 2014, 08:54:18 pm
Made it to four of them so far this year (Crooked Stave, Night Shift, Oxbow, and um Bluejacket) with plans to visit a fifth (Tired Hands) later this month.


Quote from: Yada on September 23, 2014, 04:06:20 pm
LOL, but good list.



http://draftmag.com/features/25-breweries-you-should-know/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 24, 2014, 12:29:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on September 23, 2014, 08:54:18 pm
Made it to four of them so far this year (Crooked Stave, Night Shift, Oxbow, and um Bluejacket) with plans to visit a fifth (Tired Hands) later this month.


Quote from: Yada on September 23, 2014, 04:06:20 pm
LOL, but good list.



http://draftmag.com/features/25-breweries-you-should-know/

this is an excellent list.  i had HF earl over the weekend at spuyten duyvil.  they really do make incredible beer. 

the shout outs to logsdon and de garde are warranted.  super unique in their own right. and anchorage and tree house are simply incredible. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on September 24, 2014, 10:05:49 am
Between Two to the Dome and Orange Whip, it was a stellar evening for District Drafts at Nats Park last night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 24, 2014, 10:18:44 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 23, 2014, 05:36:18 pm
has anyone come across a picture of Engert where he doesn't look like a complete douche nozzle?

i haven't.

I've never seen him in clothing that fits. He isn't nearly as thin as he thinks he is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 24, 2014, 12:49:50 pm
and then the beer gods rained down on me...Phish comes through again, even when you can't make the show.  ;D

Case of Heady Topper
Four pack of fiddlehead
One Lawsons Sip of Sunshine
Two Lawsons Double Dose IPA
Three 750 ML Hill Farmstead Growlers - S+S #7, Earl, Abner (these won't last more than a few days)
HF Dorothy
HF Grassroots Convivial Suaréz
Siren Collab - Lemon Cello IPA

(http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19935/19935773fc9bb1d2cca56b217186b79aadfc0f78.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 24, 2014, 03:33:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 24, 2014, 12:49:50 pm
and then the beer gods rained down on me...Phish comes through again, even when you can't make the show.  ;D

Case of Heady Topper
Four pack of fiddlehead
One Lawsons Sip of Sunshine
Two Lawsons Double Dose IPA
Three 750 ML Hill Farmstead Growlers - S+S #7, Earl, Abner (these won't last more than a few days)
HF Dorothy
HF Grassroots Convivial Suaréz
Siren Collab - Lemon Cello IPA

(http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19935/19935773fc9bb1d2cca56b217186b79aadfc0f78.jpg)

bottle share in 10 days, woohooo!!!

;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 25, 2014, 11:32:33 am
Been to 6 of them

Tasted 17

Quote from: James Ford on September 23, 2014, 08:54:18 pm
Made it to four of them so far this year (Crooked Stave, Night Shift, Oxbow, and um Bluejacket) with plans to visit a fifth (Tired Hands) later this month.


Quote from: Yada on September 23, 2014, 04:06:20 pm
LOL, but good list.



http://draftmag.com/features/25-breweries-you-should-know/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 26, 2014, 02:04:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 24, 2014, 12:49:50 pm
(http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19935/19935773fc9bb1d2cca56b217186b79aadfc0f78.jpg)

Is that breast pump I see in the background
is there a mini-yada rolling around the house?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 26, 2014, 03:37:10 pm
If Yada brings a milk stout to a bottle share, I aint drinking it.

Quote from: Sidehatch on September 26, 2014, 02:04:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 24, 2014, 12:49:50 pm
(http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19935/19935773fc9bb1d2cca56b217186b79aadfc0f78.jpg)

Is that breast pump I see in the background
is there a mini-yada rolling around the house?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 26, 2014, 03:37:42 pm
What percentile do you guys fall into?

Christopher Ingraham
The Washington Post
Do you drink a glass of wine with dinner every night? That puts you in the top 30 percent of American adults in terms of per-capita alcohol consumption. If you drink two glasses, that would put you in the top 20 percent.
But to break into the top 10 percent of American drinkers, you would need to drink more than two bottles of wine with every dinner. And you'd still be below-average among those top 10 percenters.
The top 10 percent of American drinkers -- 24 million adults over age 18 -- consume, on average, 74 alcoholic drinks per week. That works out to a little more than four-and-a-half 750 ml bottles of Jack Daniels, 18 bottles of wine, or three 24-can cases of beer. In one week.
Or, if you prefer, 10 drinks per day.
These figures come from Philip J. Cook's "Paying the Tab," an economically minded examination of the costs and benefits of alcohol control in the U.S. I double-checked these figures with Cook, just to make sure I wasn't reading them wrong. "I agree that it's hard to imagine consuming 10 drinks a day," he told me. But, "there are a remarkable number of people who drink a couple of six packs a day, or a pint of whiskey."
As Cook notes in his book, the top 10 percent of drinkers account for well over half of the alcohol consumed in any given year. On the other hand, people in the bottom three deciles don't drink at all, and even the median consumption among those who do drink is just three beverages per week.
The shape of this usage curve isn't exactly unique. The Pareto Law states that "the top 20 percent of buyers for most any consumer product account for fully 80 percent of sales," according to Cook. The rule can be applied to everything from hair care products to X-Boxes.
But the consequences of the Pareto Law are different when it comes to industries like alcohol, tobacco and now marijuana. If you consume 10 plus drinks per day, for instance, you almost certainly have a drinking problem. But the beverage industry is heavily dependent on you for their profits.
"One consequence is that the heaviest drinkers are of greatly disproportionate importance to the sales and profitability of the alcoholic beverage industry," he writes writes. "If the top decile somehow could be induced to curb their consumption level to that of the next lower group (the ninth decile), then total ethanol sales would fall by 60 percent."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 26, 2014, 03:42:59 pm
I'm not ten drinks in a day, but I'm more than 3 drinks a week, probably.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 26, 2014, 03:53:02 pm
Here's the link, with all the charty goodness

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/25/think-you-drink-a-lot-this-chart-will-tell-you/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 26, 2014, 04:22:51 pm
A Stone kegerator in the State House. Nice.


City of Richmond News
McAuliffe: 'We have got to get' Stone Brewing

 Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2014 12:53 pm
 BY GRAHAM MOOMAW Richmond Times-Dispatch

 The campaign to woo Stone Brewing Co. has expanded to the Virginia governor's mansion, where Gov. Terry McAuliffe said he has installed a kegerator that dispenses beer from the California-based craft brewer.

 "I had to sit and drink beer with these guys at the mansion the other night," McAuliffe said Thursday morning on WRVA's "Ask the Governor" radio show. "It's between us and Ohio. We've got to get it here in Virginia. This is where Stone ought to be."

 McAuliffe also said he had traveled to San Diego to meet with the company.

 "I've got to tell you, I'm excited," McAuliffe said. "I have worked this like a dog."

 Stone, which is looking to build its first facility east of the Mississippi River, has narrowed its search to Richmond, Norfolk and Columbus, Ohio.

Two locations in Richmond are being considered: one on publicly owned land in the Greater Fulton area east of downtown and one in the private Reynolds South development planned for Manchester.

 The involvement of McAuliffe, a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee known for his extensive political and business connections, likely helps Virginia's standing in a high-profile economic development competition that spanned several states.

Another factor that may boost Virginia's prospects is Ohio's restriction on beers with an alcohol content higher than 12 percent. Some of Stone's beers exceed that threshold, and The Columbus Dispatch reported this week that Stone has told Ohio lawmakers that the alcohol cap is a factor in its decision on where to locate. A bill introduced in the Ohio General Assembly would raise the state's limit from 12 percent alcohol by volume to 21 percent.

 There's no limit in Virginia.

 Stone is expected to announce its decision in the coming weeks or months.

 "Hopefully we'll hear something soon," McAuliffe said. "Ohio. We're gonna beat 'em."​

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 26, 2014, 05:17:11 pm
it's the most wonderful time of the year: fresh hop season

off to go drink a couple cowiche canyons over at bottleworks and buy all the fresh hop beers i can find.  joy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 26, 2014, 05:36:52 pm
Chart could use some more bold colors@!

What I find amazing is that between 60-70% of people have less that one drink per WEEK. And most of them are likely still fat.


Quote from: grateful on September 26, 2014, 03:53:02 pm
Here's the link, with all the charty goodness

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/25/think-you-drink-a-lot-this-chart-will-tell-you/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 26, 2014, 06:43:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on September 26, 2014, 02:04:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 24, 2014, 12:49:50 pm
(http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19935/19935773fc9bb1d2cca56b217186b79aadfc0f78.jpg)

Is that breast pump I see in the background
is there a mini-yada rolling around the house?

That sir is a piece to a breast pump!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 27, 2014, 12:57:50 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 26, 2014, 05:17:11 pm
it's the most wonderful time of the year: fresh hop season

off to go drink a couple cowiche canyons over at bottleworks and buy all the fresh hop beers i can find.  joy!

fresh hop beers so far...

reubens  >  fremont  > fort george

it's still early, but the reuben's fresh hop beer is incredible. and if any of you are so inclined to trade for your beers, you should absolutely be putting out an ISO for reuben's fresh hop amarillo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 30, 2014, 02:05:28 pm
We had airline vouchers that we converted into free flights to Tampa. Daughter had a three day weekend, so we did the "48 hours in Tampa/St Petersburg" The water this time of year was awesome, the beer down there equally awesome. We went to:

1. Cigar City Brewpub (Tampa): Food was pretty good, not great. Fresh Jai Alai (oddly it's better in a can), and a couple of interesting stouts we paired with dessert.

2. 7venth Sun Brewing (Dunedin): Charming small tasting room with cool (bluegrass) music and an interesting variety of beers, all done well.

3. Rapp Brewing (Seminole): Damn, these guys do some interesting German beers. Their gose, lichtenheiner, and Berliner weisse were all spot on (all highly rated on BA). They also did a chocolate peanut butter stout (that received rave reviews) that tasted like it was out of the Southern Tier catalog. Also played an awesome mix of music...lots of GErman Oktoberfest music mixed with bluegrass, and "Freebird" played entirely on violin...loved it.

4. Peg's Cantina (Gulfport): Beer brewered by Cycle Brewing...excellent citra IPA and Berliner weisse, and the best food (tacos) we had the whole time.

5. Cigar City Tasting room (Tampa): less than 10 min drive from airport, perfect last stop before returning the rental car. These guys seem to do all styles very well! More variety than the brewpub. They also have a separate brewpub in the airport (they actually make the beer at the airport!), but we didn't go.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 30, 2014, 02:10:06 pm
it's weird how FL has become berliner central...  good for them, i guess!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 30, 2014, 02:15:31 pm
That and the gose seem perfect for the Florida heat. Would hate to drink a barrel aged stout in that weather.

Quote from: sweetcell on September 30, 2014, 02:10:06 pm
it's weird how FL has become berliner central...  good for them, i guess!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 30, 2014, 02:40:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 30, 2014, 02:10:06 pm
it's weird how FL has become berliner central...  good for them, i guess!

tillamook oregon begs to differ.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 30, 2014, 03:42:46 pm
i found this sculpin stuff.  expensive per six pack.  i dont know anything about it.  so i bought it.  and i put it in my basement.  so i can look at it and wonder if it is good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 30, 2014, 03:46:27 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 30, 2014, 03:42:46 pm
i found this sculpin stuff.  expensive per six pack.  i dont know anything about it.  so i bought it.  and i put it in my basement.  so i can look at it and wonder if it is good.

No point in keeping that around, Sir Walky.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 30, 2014, 03:48:43 pm
so it is no good, or it does not store well?  sir walky . . . i like that.  i like sir walky of meowtown, better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 30, 2014, 03:51:24 pm
Quote from: walkonby on September 30, 2014, 03:48:43 pm
so it is no good, or it does not store well?  sir walky . . . i like that.  i like sir walky of meowtown, better.

You don't store IPAs, sir.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 30, 2014, 03:53:12 pm
oh silly putty.  thank you for your beer knowledge.  looks like drinks are on me(ow).

but wait a minute, part,ner . . .  i store 120 minutes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 30, 2014, 05:21:14 pm
you keep Matt Pinfield in your basement?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 30, 2014, 07:31:10 pm
good, one
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2014, 10:36:02 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 30, 2014, 02:40:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 30, 2014, 02:10:06 pm
it's weird how FL has become berliner central...  good for them, i guess!

tillamook oregon begs to differ.

tillamook has one BW brewery.  as awesome as De Garde's beers are (supposedly, never had the pleasure), that doesn't make them "berliner central" in my books.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2014, 10:40:57 am
Quote from: walkonby on September 30, 2014, 03:53:12 pm
oh silly putty.  thank you for your beer knowledge.  looks like drinks are on me(ow).

but wait a minute, part,ner . . .  i store 120 minutes.

yes, you want to drink IPAs as fresh as possible.  store those sculpins in the fridge until you have a chance to enjoy, that will help preserve them.  it's not like you need to guzzle them all down tonight, but don't wait on them to improve.  they are at their best right now.

120 isn't a typical IPA... it's more of a barleywine.  actually it's a unique "extreme beer" to which the usual rules don't apply.  at 18% ABV or more (i.e. WAY out of the range of an IPA or even IIPA/DIPA) you need to let that thing sit for the alcohol to cool down, and for the absurd amount of hops to mellow out a little.  you can drink 120 fresh but it's a bracing experience.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 01, 2014, 04:11:13 pm
sweetcell . . . this is you


(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/56560896/h63D44B94/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 01, 2014, 06:05:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 01, 2014, 10:36:02 am
Quote from: stevewizzle on September 30, 2014, 02:40:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 30, 2014, 02:10:06 pm
it's weird how FL has become berliner central...  good for them, i guess!

tillamook oregon begs to differ.

tillamook has one BW brewery.  as awesome as De Garde's beers are (supposedly, never had the pleasure), that doesn't make them "berliner central" in my books.

OK

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/87/?sort=avgD
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 07, 2014, 12:33:37 pm
GABF medal winners: http://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com/the-competition/winners/

Boston Beer won two golds their Double Bock (doppelbock) & Tetravis (Belgian-Style Abbey Ale).

Gordon Biersch - Annapolis got a gold for their rauchbier.

DC Brau got a silver for The Citizen.  other local silver and bronzes: Gordon Biersch - Rockville, DuClaw, Union Craft, Heavy Seas, Capitol City. 

four medals for Devils Backbone, including a gold.... resulting in them getting "Mid-Size Brewing Company and Mid-Size Brewing Company Brewer of the Year".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 12:50:32 pm
Are you trying to point out the poor taste of the judges? Because I really don't "get" many of the selections you highlighted.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 07, 2014, 12:33:37 pm
GABF medal winners: http://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com/the-competition/winners/

Boston Beer won two golds their Double Bock (doppelbock) & Tetravis (Belgian-Style Abbey Ale).

Gordon Biersch - Annapolis got a gold for their rauchbier.

DC Brau got a silver for The Citizen.  other local silver and bronzes: Gordon Biersch - Rockville, DuClaw, Union Craft, Heavy Seas, Capitol City. 

four medals for Devils Backbone, including a gold.... resulting in them getting "Mid-Size Brewing Company and Mid-Size Brewing Company Brewer of the Year".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 07, 2014, 01:46:03 pm
it's kind of hard to really "judge" the winners they chose unless you know what else these beers they were up against, right? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Yep. I honestly didn't read much about it.

But there were a hell of a lot of breweries at that thing this year so it at least seems like the competition would have been stiff.

The idea that Duclaw's Sweet Baby Jesus would win any kind of medal at anything just seems wrong though.

Quote from: stevewizzle on October 07, 2014, 01:46:03 pm
it's kind of hard to really "judge" the winners they chose unless you know what else these beers they were up against, right? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 07, 2014, 01:57:20 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Yep. I honestly didn't read much about it.

But there were a hell of a lot of breweries at that thing this year so it at least seems like the competition would have been stiff.

The idea that Duclaw's Sweet Baby Jesus would win any kind of medal at anything just seems wrong though.

Quote from: stevewizzle on October 07, 2014, 01:46:03 pm
it's kind of hard to really "judge" the winners they chose unless you know what else these beers they were up against, right? 

old style won silver.  when i visited chicago and asked you for advice, there was no mention of this award-winning beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 07, 2014, 02:19:31 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 12:50:32 pm
Are you trying to point out the poor taste of the judges? Because I really don't "get" many of the selections you highlighted.

with the exception of Boston Beer, which i highlighted because it's a surprising result, all the breweries are from DC, MD or VA.

also, it was a platform for you to point out how people who don't share your taste automatically have poor taste ;D

Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Yep. I honestly didn't read much about it.

yet you opined rather strongly...

Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
But there were a hell of a lot of breweries at that thing this year so it at least seems like the competition would have been stiff.

the competition is indeed really tough.  there are way more potential entrants than there are entry spots.  breweries are limited to 4 or 5 beers, total, across all categories.  i believe there were something like 9,000 entries this year.  so the fact that all, or 4 out of 5, Devils Backbone beers won medals is really impressive.

Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
The idea that Duclaw's Sweet Baby Jesus would win any kind of medal at anything just seems wrong though.

there has to be something weird going on with that beer.  like you, when i tasted SBJ it was disgusting.  yet a lot of folks LOVE it and it won a medal at GABF (meaning that it won several rounds).  maybe there were some bad batches?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 07, 2014, 02:26:55 pm
i liked the 4 ounce taste of SBJ i had at churchkey ways back, but that's about all i could handle.

speaking of medal winners sweetcelll... have you opened a bottle of silver-medal winning kentucky dark star yet? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 07, 2014, 03:24:02 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 07, 2014, 02:26:55 pm
have you opened a bottle of silver-medal winning kentucky dark star yet? 

nope, not yet... but the air is getting cooler, so we're entering Big Beer season.  might have to queue that one up soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 03:59:08 pm
The Sam Adams dopplebock is better than anything I've tasted from Port City, Duclaw, or Devil's Backbone.

How Devil's Backbone continues to get so much GABF love, I'll never know. Their shelf beers are pedestrian.

I think we all know how bad the Citizen is. Yet, some fat guys in Colorado don't. Seems like maybe they had some edibles before tasting it.


Quote from: sweetcell on October 07, 2014, 02:19:31 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 12:50:32 pm
Are you trying to point out the poor taste of the judges? Because I really don't "get" many of the selections you highlighted.

with the exception of Boston Beer, which i highlighted because it's a surprising result, all the breweries are from DC, MD or VA.

also, it was a platform for you to point out how people who don't share your taste automatically have poor taste ;D

Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
Yep. I honestly didn't read much about it.

yet you opined rather strongly...

Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
But there were a hell of a lot of breweries at that thing this year so it at least seems like the competition would have been stiff.

the competition is indeed really tough.  there are way more potential entrants than there are entry spots.  breweries are limited to 4 or 5 beers, total, across all categories.  i believe there were something like 9,000 entries this year.  so the fact that all, or 4 out of 5, Devils Backbone beers won medals is really impressive.

Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 01:55:54 pm
The idea that Duclaw's Sweet Baby Jesus would win any kind of medal at anything just seems wrong though.

there has to be something weird going on with that beer.  like you, when i tasted SBJ it was disgusting.  yet a lot of folks LOVE it and it won a medal at GABF (meaning that it won several rounds).  maybe there were some bad batches?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 07, 2014, 04:47:52 pm
DB is a "brewer's brewer" - their beers are great examples of a style.  kolsh or American-Style Dark Lager aren't exactly exciting styles (AKA pedestrian) compared to modern IPAs or imperial stouts but since beer competitions are about brewing to style, they do well. 

Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 03:59:08 pm
I think we all know how bad the Citizen is.

we certainly know how bad you think the citizen is ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 05:30:47 pm
So does their conservative beer ideiology equate to them having lower IQ's?  ;D


Quote from: sweetcell on October 07, 2014, 04:47:52 pm
DB is a "brewer's brewer" - their beers are great examples of a style.  kolsh or American-Style Dark Lager aren't exactly exciting styles (AKA pedestrian) compared to modern IPAs or imperial stouts but since beer competitions are about brewing to style, they do well. 

Quote from: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 03:59:08 pm
I think we all know how bad the Citizen is.

we certainly know how bad you think the citizen is ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 08, 2014, 09:46:00 am
anyone been?

http://www.adroit-theory.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 08, 2014, 09:52:16 am
Been meaning to go, but haven't. Tentatively planning on going NEXT weekend....if the weather is nice and we can combine it with some Fall hiking.

Adroit Theory, Corcoran, Lost Rhino, and Old Ox are all in Loudoun County. Haven't checked out any of them, but hope to check out all eventually.


Quote from: Yada on October 08, 2014, 09:46:00 am
anyone been?

http://www.adroit-theory.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 08, 2014, 09:57:20 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 08, 2014, 09:52:16 am
Been meaning to go, but haven't. Tentatively planning on going NEXT weekend....if the weather is nice and we can combine it with some Fall hiking.

Adroit Theory, Corcoran, Lost Rhino, and Old Ox are all in Loudoun County. Haven't checked out any of them, but hope to check out all eventually.


Quote from: Yada on October 08, 2014, 09:46:00 am
anyone been?

http://www.adroit-theory.com

Adroit Theory looks to have some very interesting beverages.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on October 08, 2014, 10:09:29 am
I went to Adroit Theory a few months ago. Nothing was mind blowing, but I liked that they're not your typical area brewery making average pale ales. An imperial saison was the best beer I had. It was a little annoying that the 2 beers on the menu that sounded the most interesting were only available to their club members. Monk's BBQ about a mile from there was really good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 08, 2014, 10:30:45 am
this guy put together a great site as a resource for all the breweries/brewpubs along the WO&D bike trail
http://www.bikeablebrews.com/ (http://www.bikeablebrews.com/)
well he did add other things on there like bars and such

but on a 45 mile ride there are 10 breweries/brewpubs along the WO&D bike ...ending with Adroit

too bad these places aren't open before 10am, which is usually when I'm on the trail

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 08, 2014, 05:39:50 pm
So, uhh, I guess Stone Brewery is putting a 12 acre brewery just down the hill from me. I'm told this is a big deal?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 08, 2014, 05:53:02 pm
Is it official? Woohoo!

signed,

Stone Fanboy


Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on October 08, 2014, 05:39:50 pm
So, uhh, I guess Stone Brewery is putting a 12 acre brewery just down the hill from me. I'm told this is a big deal?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 08, 2014, 06:40:58 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 08, 2014, 05:53:02 pm
Is it official? Woohoo!

signed,

Stone Fanboy


Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on October 08, 2014, 05:39:50 pm
So, uhh, I guess Stone Brewery is putting a 12 acre brewery just down the hill from me. I'm told this is a big deal?
apparently yes. Times-Dispatch is reporting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 08, 2014, 09:52:16 pm
i just came here to post the same thing.  and yes, it's a big deal.  might actually get me to go to richmond some day.  maybe.

http://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/richmond-nabs-stone-brewing/Content?oid=2128151
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 08, 2014, 09:58:23 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 08, 2014, 09:52:16 pm
i just came here to post the same thing.  and yes, it's a big deal.  might actually get me to go to richmond some day.  maybe.

http://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/richmond-nabs-stone-brewing/Content?oid=2128151
This is going to be half a mile from me and I will literally roll out the red carpet. There will be champagne Sabres and private dining rooms and a printed itinerary down to the minute. I will even try to work in all of our local breweries.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 08, 2014, 10:01:40 pm
I HAVE A NANNY AND DRIVER ON STANDBY FOR JUST THESE OCCASIONS. I HAVE 12 BITTERS IN MY HOME BAR.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 08, 2014, 10:24:56 pm
i have, no fucks, to give
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 08, 2014, 10:46:17 pm
Quote from: walkonby on October 08, 2014, 10:24:56 pm
i have, no fucks, to give
No one invited you, you passive-aggressive bitch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 08, 2014, 10:55:28 pm
just the facts, mam
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 08, 2014, 11:05:01 pm
I'm actually more excited for the Answer than Stone.

http://www.richmond.com/food-drink/dish/article_15b98904-9736-11e3-a8d1-0017a43b2370.html

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 09, 2014, 08:52:19 am
I haven't gotten over there yet. The food at Mekong was fantastic though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 09, 2014, 09:15:17 am
That's what I like so much about Mekong. Usually, brewpubs for a vegetarian means some kind of grilled Portobello sandwich with fries. Which can be good, but monotonous and lazy/lacking creativity.

 Whereas at Mekong, you get Vietnamese food (hence decent vegetarian choices) with your world class beer choices. Actually, as you said, you get fantastic Vietnamese food.

The article said the Answer is only serving guest beers at this point. I did have a beer at Mekong that An collaborated with Cigar City on a while ago, and it was great. So I'm hoping that points to the beers at the Answer being consistently great as well. (Unlike a certain DC brewery/brewpub where the beers are hit and miss, helmed by a certain pale, shaggy guy who got his start at another DC beer-centric restaurant).


Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on October 09, 2014, 08:52:19 am
I haven't gotten over there yet. The food at Mekong was fantastic though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 09, 2014, 10:06:12 am
jules, with that kind of a promise of hospitality we'll be unable to decline.  summer road trip! (or whenever the Stone tasting room opens...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 09, 2014, 10:13:34 am
so, apparently, "fantasy brewers" is a thing.  no, not creepy thoughts of Sam Calagione & Vinnie Cilurzo getting it on in a bad of hops... think fantasy football for the beer industry: folks "draft" breweries before the start of GABF, then get points based on the medals "their" breweries win.

http://www.porchdrinking.com/2014-gabf-fantasy-brewery-draft-results/
http://www.porchdrinking.com/2014-gabf-fantasy-brewery-league-results/
http://draftmag.com/gabfdraft/?ref= (this was for 2013, winners won trips!)

i was listening to a brewing podcast this morning and they were recapping their weekend at GABF.  someone mentioned "fantasy brewing"... i was sure they were kidding.  apparently they weren't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 09, 2014, 10:26:14 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 09, 2014, 10:13:34 am
so, apparently, "fantasy brewers" is a thing.  no, not creepy thoughts of Sam Calagione & Vinnie Cilurzo getting it on in a bad of hops... think fantasy football for the beer industry: folks "draft" breweries before the start of GABF, then get points based on the medals "their" breweries win.

http://www.porchdrinking.com/2014-gabf-fantasy-brewery-draft-results/
http://www.porchdrinking.com/2014-gabf-fantasy-brewery-league-results/
http://draftmag.com/gabfdraft/?ref= (this was for 2013, winners won trips!)

i was listening to a brewing podcast this morning and they were recapping their weekend at GABF.  someone mentioned "fantasy brewing"... i was sure they were kidding.  apparently they weren't.
We are thru the looking glass here, people.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 09, 2014, 10:28:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 09, 2014, 10:06:12 am
jules, with that kind of a promise of hospitality we'll be unable to decline.  summer road trip! (or whenever the Stone tasting room opens...)
I will start assembling fabric swatches!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 09, 2014, 10:55:30 am
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on October 08, 2014, 10:01:40 pm
I HAVE A NANNY AND DRIVER ON STANDBY FOR JUST THESE OCCASIONS. I HAVE 12 BITTERS IN MY HOME BAR.

yet i'm still waiting for my julian for mod t-shirt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 09, 2014, 01:10:52 pm
Looking forward to my "hard hat" tour of the new Sierra Nevada Brewing Co on Friday in North Carolina
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 09, 2014, 02:22:35 pm
If you get the chance, check out Wicked Weed in Asheville.

Quote from: Bagley on October 09, 2014, 01:10:52 pm
Looking forward to my "hard hat" tour of the new Sierra Nevada Brewing Co on Friday in North Carolina
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 09, 2014, 09:00:47 pm
yada, i am breaking into one of my uber, special ride delivery rides of 120 minute this evening, because, you know, i can.  the day to day doles can decay you in this life, and you know what i miss, i miss, the grades.  i almost gave one to hutch the other day, or was it today, i cant remember, because this one beer, is getting me dr,unk.  the end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 10, 2014, 09:33:28 am
more on that Stone/Richmond thing:

http://allaboutbeer.com/news/stone-brewing-richmond/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 10, 2014, 10:35:25 am
Quote from: walkonby on October 09, 2014, 09:00:47 pm
you know what i miss, i miss, the grades. 
what grades do you speak of?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 10, 2014, 11:57:43 am
i had a chance to taste two highly-touted IPAs last night at brouwer's hopfest...  barley brown's tankslapper and hop truck crossing (made with fresh mosaic).  both were incredible in their own unique ways, but tankslapper was the best IPA i've ever had. easily. if headytopper was a unit, which often times i feel like it is, it'd be equivalent to 1.5 headytoppers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on October 10, 2014, 01:06:36 pm
Hopefully Stone isn't near this crematorium or that smokey stout you're tasting might not be from the malt or barley.

500 lb. body causes grease fire at Henrico crematory
http://www.nbc12.com/story/26737161/crews-battle-fire-at-henrico-crematory-off-mechanicsville-turnpike (http://www.nbc12.com/story/26737161/crews-battle-fire-at-henrico-crematory-off-mechanicsville-turnpike)

"The body was so obese that the actual body fat came off and went straight up the sack and hit the roof material, the rubber roof we have up there and that's what made it go up like it did?It was no negligence involved in it.", said Hendrix.  :o

Enjoy your lunch!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 14, 2014, 09:17:01 am
17 years in DC area, and only my third trip to Philly...(did go to Philly more often when I lived in Baltimore for three years).

Of course I've read much about the Philly beer scene, so decided to combine some beer spots with kid spots over the weekend in the Philly area....

Both Tired Hands (in Ardmore) and Earth, Bread, and Brewery were top notch. All of the house beers I tried from both were excellent (the former serves only their own, the latter a mix). Food was excellent, and laid back ambiance (probably helped that we went to both at lunch time) was very cool. Kid friendly vibe at both. I'll be back to both.

Monk's, on the other hand, was a bit overrated. Not that it was bad, but it wasn't great like it was supposed to be. Loud with football fans and plagued by indifferent service. Probably won't return.

Philly area was nice too. Enjoyed stops at Valley Forge, Ben Franklin Museum, Smith Memorial Playground, and hiking in Fairmount Park.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 14, 2014, 08:54:20 pm
Was in San Diego on a quick business trip last week - beervana

Hit up Alpine, Societe and Council brewing in person - all were amazing - The Pupil at Societe is fantastic as are the tart saisons at Council

had to surrender a bottle of pliny at the airport because my bag was 52 lbs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 14, 2014, 10:19:51 pm
Pliny was he worst thing you had in your bag?

  :o :o :o
Quote from: brennser on October 14, 2014, 08:54:20 pm
Was in San Diego on a quick business trip last week - beervana

Hit up Alpine, Societe and Council brewing in person - all were amazing - The Pupil at Societe is fantastic as are the tart saisons at Council

had to surrender a bottle of pliny at the airport because my bag was 52 lbs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 15, 2014, 08:20:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 08, 2014, 11:05:01 pm
I'm actually more excited for the Answer than Stone.

http://www.richmond.com/food-drink/dish/article_15b98904-9736-11e3-a8d1-0017a43b2370.html



I went to the Answer the weekend it opened and it left much to be desired at that point.  The only had three beers at that point that they actually collaborated on making and they were all unremarkable to say the least.  The space was still a bit of a shell and it really looked like they rushed the opening.  Nevertheless, with Mekong providing the beer list, it certainly has potential, it just may take them a bit longer to get there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 15, 2014, 10:12:05 am
Thanks for your review. Can't say that it completely surprises me. I'll make sure I hold off on going until some time in 2015. The fact that I'm 100 miles away from Richmond makes it pretty easy.

Quote from: imbecile on October 15, 2014, 08:20:28 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 08, 2014, 11:05:01 pm
I'm actually more excited for the Answer than Stone.

http://www.richmond.com/food-drink/dish/article_15b98904-9736-11e3-a8d1-0017a43b2370.html



I went to the Answer the weekend it opened and it left much to be desired at that point.  The only had three beers at that point that they actually collaborated on making and they were all unremarkable to say the least.  The space was still a bit of a shell and it really looked like they rushed the opening.  Nevertheless, with Mekong providing the beer list, it certainly has potential, it just may take them a bit longer to get there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 15, 2014, 10:38:44 am
It was the cheapest, maybe not the worst  >:(

Quote from: James Ford on October 14, 2014, 10:19:51 pm
Pliny was he worst thing you had in your bag?

  :o :o :o
Quote from: brennser on October 14, 2014, 08:54:20 pm
Was in San Diego on a quick business trip last week - beervana

Hit up Alpine, Societe and Council brewing in person - all were amazing - The Pupil at Societe is fantastic as are the tart saisons at Council

had to surrender a bottle of pliny at the airport because my bag was 52 lbs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 15, 2014, 10:49:17 am
Quote from: brennser on October 15, 2014, 10:38:44 am
It was the cheapest, maybe not the worst  >:(

Quote from: James Ford on October 14, 2014, 10:19:51 pm
Pliny was he worst thing you had in your bag?

  :o :o :o
Quote from: brennser on October 14, 2014, 08:54:20 pm
Was in San Diego on a quick business trip last week - beervana

Hit up Alpine, Societe and Council brewing in person - all were amazing - The Pupil at Societe is fantastic as are the tart saisons at Council

had to surrender a bottle of pliny at the airport because my bag was 52 lbs

that's then you stuff a pair of sneakers into your carry on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 15, 2014, 10:57:45 am
GQ.com - David Chang rants on why he hates "fancy beer"

http://www.gq.com/life/food/201410/david-chang-cheap-beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 15, 2014, 11:08:10 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 15, 2014, 10:57:45 am
GQ.com - David Chang rants on why he hates "fancy beer"

http://www.gq.com/life/food/201410/david-chang-cheap-beer


I'll be the first to say there is a time and place for shitty beer and sometimes it's better than "good beer." But he sounds pretty douche-y in this article.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 15, 2014, 11:43:14 am
Quote from: Yada on October 15, 2014, 11:08:10 am
But he sounds pretty douche-y in this article.

"I am not being falsely contrarian or ironic in a hipsterish way. " - says falsely contrarian, ironic hipster

there's no reason to write a "rant" in support of light beer.  it's still, what, >95% of the beer sales in this country?  sure beer snobs and neckbeards can be annoying and overly snobbish, but fuck 'em. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 15, 2014, 12:56:17 pm
trust me - that was not a possibility - it was 52 lbs of beer and bubble wrap - there was nothing to put in my carry on

Quote from: Yada on October 15, 2014, 10:49:17 am
Quote from: brennser on October 15, 2014, 10:38:44 am
It was the cheapest, maybe not the worst  >:(

Quote from: James Ford on October 14, 2014, 10:19:51 pm
Pliny was he worst thing you had in your bag?

  :o :o :o
Quote from: brennser on October 14, 2014, 08:54:20 pm
Was in San Diego on a quick business trip last week - beervana

Hit up Alpine, Societe and Council brewing in person - all were amazing - The Pupil at Societe is fantastic as are the tart saisons at Council

had to surrender a bottle of pliny at the airport because my bag was 52 lbs

that's then you stuff a pair of sneakers into your carry on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 15, 2014, 01:18:18 pm
Quote from: brennser on October 15, 2014, 12:56:17 pm
trust me - that was not a possibility - it was 52 lbs of beer and bubble wrap - there was nothing to put in my carry on

Quote from: Yada on October 15, 2014, 10:49:17 am
Quote from: brennser on October 15, 2014, 10:38:44 am
It was the cheapest, maybe not the worst  >:(

Quote from: James Ford on October 14, 2014, 10:19:51 pm
Pliny was he worst thing you had in your bag?

  :o :o :o
Quote from: brennser on October 14, 2014, 08:54:20 pm
Was in San Diego on a quick business trip last week - beervana

Hit up Alpine, Societe and Council brewing in person - all were amazing - The Pupil at Societe is fantastic as are the tart saisons at Council

had to surrender a bottle of pliny at the airport because my bag was 52 lbs

that's then you stuff a pair of sneakers into your carry on.


hahhaha... nice!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 16, 2014, 10:16:19 am
 
The full list of 'Best Beer Town' winners in our USA TODAY 10Best Readers' Choice contest is as follows:
1.   Grand Rapids, Mich.
2.   Tampa
3.   Asheville, N.C.
4.   Bend, Ore.
5.   Fort Collins, Colo.
6.   San Diego
7.   Portland, Maine
8.   Portland, Ore.
9.   Denver
10.   Burlington, Vt.
Cheers to all our winners!   

I dunno about this list?Tampa ahead of any of those other 8? Portland ME>Portland OR? And Philly doesn?t make the list at all? It was funny that the only Burlington brewery the accompanying article mentioned by name was Magic Hat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 16, 2014, 11:23:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 16, 2014, 10:16:19 am

The full list of 'Best Beer Town' winners in our USA TODAY 10Best Readers' Choice contest is as follows:
1.   Grand Rapids, Mich.
2.   Tampa
3.   Asheville, N.C.
4.   Bend, Ore.
5.   Fort Collins, Colo.
6.   San Diego
7.   Portland, Maine
8.   Portland, Ore.
9.   Denver
10.   Burlington, Vt.
Cheers to all our winners!   

I dunno about this list?Tampa ahead of any of those other 8? Portland ME>Portland OR? And Philly doesn?t make the list at all? It was funny that the only Burlington brewery the accompanying article mentioned by name was Magic Hat.

this is rendered invalid by this statement : USA TODAY ... Readers' Choice
nuff said
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2014, 11:54:58 am
a few big boys that are going to sleep in the cellar for a while:

(http://i.imgur.com/5d9Y8pz.jpg)

Ford: here's that BBA'd Imp Biscotti Break i mentioned a few months back:

(http://i.imgur.com/6W7FGCx.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 16, 2014, 02:22:31 pm
Illuminati III from 3 Stars

We aged Two to the Dome (our Double IPA) in French Oak Chardonnay barrels and then blended it back with freshly brewed Dome. This process imparts great vinous character balanced with subtle notes of toasted oak that create a wonderful interplay with the big bright citrus profile of the whole leaf hops that we use in conditioning Two to the Dome. Coming in at 8% abv, this is a solid heavy hitter with a bit of refinement that is sure to get people talking. This is a bottle to consume fresh, as hop profiles will diminish with age. We hope you enjoy drinking it as much as we enjoyed making it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 16, 2014, 02:25:16 pm
Those last two posts (and Brennser's CA post) make me think of bottle shares.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2014, 03:57:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 16, 2014, 02:22:31 pm
We aged Two to the Dome (our Double IPA) in French Oak Chardonnay barrels and then blended it back with freshly brewed Dome.

meh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 16, 2014, 04:25:30 pm
if you live downtown...good deal on drafts in adams morgan
Mellow Mushroom
 $3 Bell's Two Hearted tasted like at 8pm and $3 Founder's Porter?


but then again you have to hang out with the crowd that patronizes Mellow mushroom
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 16, 2014, 04:33:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 16, 2014, 03:57:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 16, 2014, 02:22:31 pm
We aged Two to the Dome (our Double IPA) in French Oak Chardonnay barrels and then blended it back with freshly brewed Dome.

meh.

the only thing i can say is atleast they don't hide what they do.  a lot of brewers would pawn that description off as "we brewed a solid IPA base and blended it with fresh IPA and bam!".  they are basically telling you up front it's a minor variation of something you've had before and it'll still suck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 16, 2014, 04:37:54 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on October 16, 2014, 04:25:30 pm
the crowd that patronizes Mellow mushroom
*shudders*
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2014, 04:45:23 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 16, 2014, 04:33:49 pm
the only thing i can say is atleast they don't hide what they do. 

i appreciate the honesty, but i'd appreciate creativity even more :D (in what they brew, not what they say...)

Quote from: James Ford on October 16, 2014, 02:25:16 pm
Those last two posts (and Brennser's CA post) make me think of bottle shares.  ;)

some of those may yet make an appearance, some day...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on October 17, 2014, 08:17:43 am
Deschutes should be here before the end of the month. I'm looking forward to having regular access to black butte porter and fresh squeezed ipa.

http://www.dcbeer.com/news/deschutes-announces-entry-dcnova-markets-premium-distributors
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 09:15:15 am
2015 sounds even more promising. I prefer Obsidian Stout to BBP, but this is a nice start!

Too bad we'll miss out in the Dissident!


Quote from: fatskippy on October 17, 2014, 08:17:43 am
Deschutes should be here before the end of the month. I'm looking forward to having regular access to black butte porter and fresh squeezed ipa.

http://www.dcbeer.com/news/deschutes-announces-entry-dcnova-markets-premium-distributors
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 09:16:09 am
Families?

Quote from: Sidehatch on October 16, 2014, 04:25:30 pm
if you live downtown...good deal on drafts in adams morgan
Mellow Mushroom
 $3 Bell's Two Hearted tasted like at 8pm and $3 Founder's Porter?


but then again you have to hang out with the crowd that patronizes Mellow mushroom
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 17, 2014, 09:18:21 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 09:16:09 am
Families?
Hipster marijuana enthusiasts, I assumed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 09:32:07 am
Doesn't the clientele depend on location and time of day?

I've only been to the Adams-Morgan location once (meeting up with out of town relatives with kids, and our first choice, Smoke and Barrel, had too long of a wait), the crowd seemed like a typical youngish DC crowd...


Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on October 17, 2014, 09:18:21 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 09:16:09 am
Families?
Hipster marijuana enthusiasts, I assumed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 17, 2014, 09:33:29 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 09:32:07 am
Doesn't the clientele depend on location and time of day?
Quite possibly. I've never been to the Adams Morgan one but have been to RVA and Chapel Hill. It was about a 50-50 blend of hipster-y looking college kids and dudes wearing hemp shirts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 am
I've also been to MM in Charlottesville and Asheville.

Charlottesville was heavier on the preppy college kids, with families blended in. Then again, I typically eat at times when families are out eating.

Asheville was heavier on the hemp people (with famliies blended in). But that's all of Asheville, isn't it?

I walked by the MM location in Denver, and it seemed to be filled with mainstream tourists who had no clue that better beer and food lay elsewhere.

From what I remember, the beer selection at Asheville was very good (this was years ago, there are better options in Asheville now), and the beer specials in C-ville were very good.

The Adams Morgan location seemed to be pricier and lacking selection.

Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on October 17, 2014, 09:33:29 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 09:32:07 am
Doesn't the clientele depend on location and time of day?
Quite possibly. I've never been to the Adams Morgan one but have been to RVA and Chapel Hill. It was about a 50-50 blend of hipster-y looking college kids and dudes wearing hemp shirts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 17, 2014, 09:57:44 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 am
Asheville was heavier on the hemp people (with famliies blended in). But that's all of Asheville, isn't it?
True. Asheville is like someone took all the hippies from Berkeley and Ann Arbor circa 1972, put them in cryogenic freeze for 40 years, and woke them up in the mountains. Really unique place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 17, 2014, 11:00:24 am
in case you're looking for something to do this weekend:

3rd Annual DC Homebrewers BBQ at Bardo

On October 18, 2014, the DC Homebrewers will host its third annual barbecue fundraiser at Bardo Brewpub on Bladensburg Road in Washington, DC. The annual barbecue serves as a chance for the all-volunteer club to showcase and educate its members and the public on the art of homebrewing, alternate brewing techniques, and sensory panels to help new and advanced homebrewers expand their brewing and beer knowledge. - See more at: http://www.dcbeer.com/event/3rd-annual-dc-homebrewers-bbq-bardo#sthash.iOs3Dv4e.dpuf

Proceeds from the event will benefit the club's educational programming and this year's charity, the Common Good City Farm, an urban farm and education center located on a half-acre lot in LeDroit Park. Their mission is to grow food, educate, and help low-income DC community members meet their food needs and provide educational opportunities for all. For more information, visit http://commongoodcityfarm.org/.   

Admission to the event is free. A $10 food ticket includes a plate of barbecue (a vegetarian option will be available) and two sides. Some hand-crafted soda will also be available. A variety of beers by Bardo Brewpub will be available for $4. Buy tickets in advance at http://dchbbbq2014.eventbrite.com.   

During the afternoon, DC Homebrewers members will be offering a homebrewing demonstration, a variety of educational beer talks, and a raffle. 

continued: http://www.dcbeer.com/event/3rd-annual-dc-homebrewers-bbq-bardo
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 17, 2014, 11:56:52 am
who knew James Ford was actually a black man?

http://www.gq.com/life/food/201410/garret-oliver-crappy-beer

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 17, 2014, 01:52:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 17, 2014, 11:56:52 am
who knew James Ford was actually a black man?

http://www.gq.com/life/food/201410/garret-oliver-crappy-beer



well, that was fucking awesome.

"You spent your first three paragraphs insulting people just like you?is the cash, fame and luxury not working out? "
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 17, 2014, 01:54:55 pm
also i went to momofuku noodle bar last month and his beer selection sucked.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 17, 2014, 02:05:12 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 17, 2014, 01:54:55 pm
also i went to momofuku noodle bar last month and his beer selection sucked.

And Ren's/Toki in DC/MD have much better Ramen. He is opening a spot at City Center in DC next year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 17, 2014, 02:13:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 17, 2014, 02:05:12 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on October 17, 2014, 01:54:55 pm
also i went to momofuku noodle bar last month and his beer selection sucked.

And Ren's/Toki in DC/MD have much better Ramen. He is opening a spot at City Center in DC next year.

never went to rens, but i'd also through in sakuramen in the better column. 

also in the better column, and featuring a brooklyn brewery beer made exclusively for: ippudo
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 02:37:50 pm
Shake Shack also serves Brooklyn Brewery beer.

No doubt that's why Garrett name dropped Shake Shack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 02:44:30 pm
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/0c68b5814ab98f244bcb644e5b0eefc7/tumblr_ndloduVXv21t90tkao1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 17, 2014, 09:54:06 pm
gave Pumpking another chance tonight.  i'm done with this beer.  i don't hate all pumpkin beers... just this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 17, 2014, 09:57:20 pm
I can't get enough of Warlock by Southern Tier.   Not really digging any other pumpkin beers at all
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 17, 2014, 10:03:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2014, 09:54:06 pm
gave Pumpking another chance tonight.  i'm done with this beer.  i don't hate all pumpkin beers... just this one.

yeah, that's one i don't care for, but it has a soft spot in my heart for a legendary night where a bar in adams morgan presumably mispriced the beer as a 12oz bottle for $9 (for those not in the know, it comes in 22oz format and clocks in around 9% abv).  we probably went through half their stock of pumpking that night.

did you see any of the elysian offers in the DC area? pumpkachino is fantastic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 17, 2014, 10:36:37 pm
two, words

avery pump[ky]n
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 17, 2014, 10:44:40 pm
We went sweet beer tonight with a 2013 Southern Tier Choklat. Maybe even too sweet for a sweet tooth guy like me.

I swore I'd skip all pumpkin beers this year, but sprung for 4 oz of Good Gourd at Cigar City. Was tolerable. #1 pumpkin beer on Beer Advocate.

They had a bunch of Elysian pumpkin beers on draft at Scion.

Was tempted to pick up one of those Avery Pumpkyns but just too pricey for my blood.

That's all i got for tonight. Cheeers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 18, 2014, 02:44:23 pm
http://www.news.com.au/world/africa/ebola-cure-beer-brewing-and-tobacco-could-hold-the-key/story-fnh81gzi-1227086706520
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 20, 2014, 08:18:26 am
My Whole Foods had this on draft. $7/32 oz growler. I had a taste. Surprizingly not bad (I hate Pukeking.), but there was no way I was going to drink 32 ozs of it. Or even 16 ozs.

Quote from: Sidehatch on October 17, 2014, 09:57:20 pm
I can't get enough of Warlock by Southern Tier.   Not really digging any other pumpkin beers at all
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 20, 2014, 09:02:15 am
Quote from: walkonby on October 17, 2014, 10:36:37 pm
two, words

avery pump[ky]n

Agreed.

On draft at Red Apron in Union Market which is a short walk from my house.  Thankfully so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 20, 2014, 09:05:00 am
We did a hike at Manassas Battlefield Sunday, so checked on some Prince William County breweries as well. Unbeknownst to us, the Post had run an article on PWC breweries on Friday:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/whats-brewing-in-northern-virginia-old-bust-head-heritage-brewing-and-badwolf-brewing/2014/10/16/0ab8d752-52e4-11e4-809b-8cc0a295c773_story.html

so the two we went to were a bit crowded.

We had previously visited Old Busthead, and found them to be too tame/lame/mediocre, so we skipped them this time (This was the brewery where the worker had never heard of DC Brau, which I thought a little bit strange in terms of not being aware of the surrounding market, but Atomic was totally ok with that fact.)

We also had previously visited Heritage (had two flights, eight beer tried), and had recently heard of BadWolf, across the street. So we decided to hit both of those yesterday.

Service:

BadWolf: "Try anything you like before buying."

Heritage:

Me: "Could I please taste two before buying two pints (One of the beers I wanted to try was $9/13 oz, seems only fair the ask for a taste before shelling out that kind of $$ for a completely unknown beer)

Bartender: "That's what flights are for."

Me: "But I don't want a whole flight, I just want a small taste of two specific beers."

Bartender: "That's what flights are for."

(Actually, I thought a flight of four beers offer more than "a taste" of each, and I didn't want a flight, I had been there several months ago and tried two flights already.)



Value:

BadWolf: Six-6 oz pours for $15 (one each of everything on draft). I couldn't help thinking I'd get better beer for less cost if I stopped at Fairfax Whole Foods. (And indeed I did...took home a 32 oz growler of Schafly TIPA for $5.)

Heritage: Four 4 oz pours of their flagship beers (ipa, pale ale, amber ale, scotch ale) for $7. Higher price flight if you want to mix in their seasonals or limited beers. $9 for a snifter of the barrel aged scotch ale. (no free tastes...my wife commented that she couldn't believe a tasting room in a warehouse in Manassas was charging Churchkey prices for Manassas made beer when the unproven brewery had been open for less than a year), $18 for a take home bomber of the BB Scotch, BB Amber, and $25 (wtf) for a bottle of BB Winter Warmer.


Selection:

Badwolf: Six beers, always rotating. Two pale ales (fair), a habanero amber, pumpkin saison, rauchbier, and imperial stout (all very good)

Heritage: Four flagship beers (the scotch ale is good, the others mediocre...from previous visit), some seasonal and limited offerings. The BB Scotch was very good but not mind blowing.

Food:

Both BYO.

Ambiance:

WildWolf: Classic rock, lots of bottlecap/six pack case artwork.

Heritage: Classic rock, "Freedom isn't Free IPA" t-shirts.


Verdict: Will return to BadWolf if/when in area. Feel like I'm done with Heritage (and Old Busthead).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 20, 2014, 04:34:48 pm
Five years ago this Wednesday, we opened our doors on 14th street with the promise of bringing the very best in craft beer from all over the country--and the world--to the district. Since then, we've turned the taps over countless times to an array of our favorite breweries, marked the DC debuts of many fine beers and uncapped some of the rarest ales we could get our hands on. To say it's been quite the ride for our Greg Engert and team is an understatement.

So to celebrate this milestone birthday and to thank you all for being a part of our last half-a-decade, we've got a full lineup of events that really run the gamut: everything from old friends and local favorites, to breaking out our supply of vintage beers to our classic tribute to wild, funky brews.

Check out the details below and our Facebook events for full draft lists:

ChurchKey & Friends: The 5 Year Keg Kickoff!
 Wednesday, October 22 at 6 PM
 Simply put, we're starting things off with a selection of brews we love right now from some of our closest friends in the biz--from De Struise Brouwers to Avery Brewing Company to Prairie Artisan Ales. The full (and growing) draft list for the night is here.

Sly Fox's DC One Year Anniversary Extravaganza:
 22 Drafts, 5 Casks & Brewmaster Brian O'Reilly in the House!
 Thursday, October 23 at 6 PM
 We couldn't think of better friends with which to share a birthday than Sly Fox Brewing Company. BBCK's official birthday is on the 22nd of October, and we technically launched Sly Fox in DC last year on the 24th, so we landed in the middle on the 23rd and are pulling out all of the stops for an unforgettable bash (which will rank as one of the brewery's hugest tappings ever!). Unquestionable masters of real ale, Sly Fox is sending fresh classics that we have yet to see in DC on cask including Jake's ESB, Pughtown Porter and Chester County Brown, plus a slew of others on draft. Plus, their brewmaster Brian O'Reilly will be on hand to talk all about his adventures in brewing.

BBCK Opens the Vintage Vault: 50 Cellar Rarities from the Wall & Beyond
 Saturday, October 25 at 12 PM
Since our inception, we've stashed a slew of bottled scarcities, year on year, never knowing when?or if?we could bear to part with any of them. But for this occasion, we can and will! We'll feature 50 vintage bottled brews, spanning from 2008 to 2013, including Bell?s Batch 10,000 (Vintage 2010), Goose Island Bourbon County Coffee Stout (Vintage 2011), De Struise Rio Reserva (Vintage 2008) and many more. Note that since we will have a relatively limited number of bottles for each selection, all of these beers will be available as tasting pours (to share the wealth).

The Allagash 5th Anniversary Event ? A 20 Draft BBCK Love Fest
 Tuesday, October 28 at 6 PM
Allagash is some of our closest buds in the business and they're bringing it for our 5th anniversary! From Nancy and Evora to their Confluence Vintage 2013 and Midnight Brett, we're turning 20 of the draft lines over to our friends from the north.

Night of the Living Ales #4: 50 Sours on Draft for BBCK?s 5th Anniversary Finale
 Wednesday, October 29 at 4 PM
 No October at BBCK would be complete without Night of the Living Ales, and we can't think of a better finale to our series of anniversary events. The fourth installment of our tribute to wild, funky brews will feature 50 sours such as Cantillon Iris ? Grand Cru, Mikkeller & 3 Floyds Bla Spogelse, Oersoep Brettanosaurus Rex and many, many more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 22, 2014, 12:23:29 pm
last night was the monthly DC Homebrewers meeting.  first time in a year i've been able to attend.  it was held at blue jacket. 

the homebrews i drank varied in quality, from a few clearly problematic (brewer knew his beer had issues and brought it for evaluation) to mostly downright amazing (crazy IPAs, a kriek, a barrel-aged BDSA, hoppy saisons, etc.).  my soured saison was well received.

i had a number of tasters of BJ's beers (descriptions here (http://bluejacketdc.com/documents/BluejacketDrafts10.21.14AM.pdf))

DARLING BUDS: EQUINOX: equinox is a new hop that is getting rave reviews to i was excited to try this.  result was disappointing.  it's a wet-hopped beer, meaning that they used fresh un-dried hops. i got a lot of vegetal/grassy and not a lot of hop character.

VIGNETTE - fail.  had a weird off-flavor (diacetyl) that made the sourness not enjoyable.  not a lot of cherry.

GRGICH HILLS CHARDONNAY BARREL-AGED HIGH SOCIETY: not bad, but too much red wine character that   didn't go well with the relatively sweet beer.

APPLETON ESTATE BARREL-AGED CASHMERE: excellent.  complex.  just a little rum character that didn't interfere with the belgian yeast's contributions.  i could drink this all night long (slowly).

BRETTA WORLD PEACH: nice.  not certain i'd order a full pour of this, vs. everything else they have, but it's solid.

BJ batted .500 based on my non-representative sampling.  the homebrewers were in the 75% range based on the "want another taste of that" criteria.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 23, 2014, 01:18:42 pm
Has anybody had Founders Dark Penis? Walky? My wife had some in Philly a couple of weeks ago, I'd rank it a tad below Uinta, Firestone Walker, and Stone for black ipa's.

Seems to be hitting the DC area shelves along with Breakfast Stout and Harvest Ale.

Backwood Bastard early Nov.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 23, 2014, 01:22:51 pm
I wonder if that will leave a bad taste in your mouth?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 23, 2014, 09:02:34 pm
Just found founders dark penance (damn good) and founders harvest ale.  Plus more dfh 120 minute for my collection.  I am done with commas. So there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 23, 2014, 09:11:22 pm
I picked up two bombers of Rodenbach Grand Cru for $11.99 each and two bottles of Founders Harvest Ale for $2.99 each.

How does that Rodenbach Grand Cru manage to be from Belgium and be half the price on an American sour in America?


Quote from: walkonby on October 23, 2014, 09:02:34 pm
Just found founders dark penance (damn good) and founders harvest ale.  Plus more dfh 120 minute for my collection.  I am done with commas. So there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 23, 2014, 09:11:22 pm
I picked up two bombers of Rodenbach Grand Cru for $11.99 each and two bottles of Founders Harvest Ale for $2.99 each.

How does that Rodenbach Grand Cru manage to be from Belgium and be half the price on an American sour in America?


Quote from: walkonby on October 23, 2014, 09:02:34 pm
Just found founders dark penance (damn good) and founders harvest ale.  Plus more dfh 120 minute for my collection.  I am done with commas. So there.

Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 24, 2014, 09:46:06 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.
ack...now I know the math and can't go back!
but a lot of things in bombers are not available in 6packs and have much higher ABV
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 24, 2014, 09:57:25 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 23, 2014, 09:11:22 pm
I picked up two bombers of Rodenbach Grand Cru for $11.99 each and two bottles of Founders Harvest Ale for $2.99 each.

How does that Rodenbach Grand Cru manage to be from Belgium and be half the price on an American sour in America?


Quote from: walkonby on October 23, 2014, 09:02:34 pm
Just found founders dark penance (damn good) and founders harvest ale.  Plus more dfh 120 minute for my collection.  I am done with commas. So there.

Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.

which is why you shouldn't purchase a bomber of anything that's sold in six packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:01:25 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on October 24, 2014, 09:46:06 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.
ack...now I know the math and can't go back!
but a lot of things in bombers are not available in 6packs and have much higher ABV


An 11.5% bomber contains 2.92 ounces of ethanol -- at $11.99, that's $4.11 per ounce.
A 7.5% six-pack contains 5.40 ounces of ethanol -- at $7.99, that's $1.48 per ounce.

So the question becomes, is the flavor that you're paying so dearly for worth that much more, or is there something close to it that's a better value?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 24, 2014, 10:05:36 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:01:25 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on October 24, 2014, 09:46:06 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.
ack...now I know the math and can't go back!
but a lot of things in bombers are not available in 6packs and have much higher ABV


An 11.5% bomber contains 2.92 ounces of ethanol -- at $11.99, that's $4.11 per ounce.
A 7.5% six-pack contains 5.40 ounces of ethanol -- at $7.99, that's $1.48 per ounce.

So the question becomes, is the flavor that you're paying so dearly for worth that much more, or is there something close to it that's a better value?
Where are you getting six packs for $7.99.  Most decent 6packs cost $10-12 in NoVa
and what's with Ethanol, I'm not buying gasoline?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:13:00 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 24, 2014, 10:13:37 am
If you see Rodenbach Grand Cru in a six pack, please let me know. I don't think it comes in that format.

FWIW, it is a Belgian bomber, so more beer than the 22 oz American version.

But I'm with you, I almost always buy the six pack when there is a choice. The exception being if I was absolutely sure I didn't want six servings and only wanted one. Which would cost less overall.


 
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 23, 2014, 09:11:22 pm
I picked up two bombers of Rodenbach Grand Cru for $11.99 each and two bottles of Founders Harvest Ale for $2.99 each.

How does that Rodenbach Grand Cru manage to be from Belgium and be half the price on an American sour in America?


Quote from: walkonby on October 23, 2014, 09:02:34 pm
Just found founders dark penance (damn good) and founders harvest ale.  Plus more dfh 120 minute for my collection.  I am done with commas. So there.

Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:15:19 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:01:25 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on October 24, 2014, 09:46:06 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.
ack...now I know the math and can't go back!
but a lot of things in bombers are not available in 6packs and have much higher ABV


An 11.5% bomber contains 2.92 ounces of ethanol -- at $11.99, that's $4.11 per ounce.
A 7.5% six-pack contains 5.40 ounces of ethanol -- at $11.99, that's $2.22 per ounce.

So the question becomes, is the flavor that you're paying so dearly for worth that much more, or is there something close to it that's a better value?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 24, 2014, 10:15:45 am
All of the regular Sierra Nevada six packs (Torpedo, Pale Ale, Flipside, etc) are $8.49/6 pack at Total Wine.


Quote from: Sidehatch on October 24, 2014, 10:05:36 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:01:25 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on October 24, 2014, 09:46:06 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.
ack...now I know the math and can't go back!
but a lot of things in bombers are not available in 6packs and have much higher ABV


An 11.5% bomber contains 2.92 ounces of ethanol -- at $11.99, that's $4.11 per ounce.
A 7.5% six-pack contains 5.40 ounces of ethanol -- at $7.99, that's $1.48 per ounce.

So the question becomes, is the flavor that you're paying so dearly for worth that much more, or is there something close to it that's a better value?
Where are you getting six packs for $7.99.  Most decent 6packs cost $10-12 in NoVa
and what's with Ethanol, I'm not buying gasoline?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:17:17 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 24, 2014, 10:13:37 am
If you see Rodenbach Grand Cru in a six pack, please let me know. I don't think it comes in that format.

FWIW, it is a Belgian bomber, so more beer than the 22 oz American version.

But I'm with you, I almost always buy the six pack when there is a choice. The exception being if I was absolutely sure I didn't want six servings and only wanted one. Which would cost less overall.


 
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 23, 2014, 09:11:22 pm
I picked up two bombers of Rodenbach Grand Cru for $11.99 each and two bottles of Founders Harvest Ale for $2.99 each.

How does that Rodenbach Grand Cru manage to be from Belgium and be half the price on an American sour in America?


Quote from: walkonby on October 23, 2014, 09:02:34 pm
Just found founders dark penance (damn good) and founders harvest ale.  Plus more dfh 120 minute for my collection.  I am done with commas. So there.

Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.

Yep.  I assumed 750mL or 25.4 ounces.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 24, 2014, 10:19:14 am
I paid $7/bottle for 11.2 oz bottles of Cuvee des Jacobins Rouge. Comparable in taste/quality, imo. So $12 for 26 ounces is actually pretty fair. Still, that's like half the price of the Bruery's Oude Tart.

Sours aint cheap. Unless you're comparing them to high quality wine.

Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:15:19 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:01:25 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on October 24, 2014, 09:46:06 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 09:44:09 am
Every time I'm tempted to buy a bomber, I always step back to do the math and it never makes sense to me.  Buying a bomber for $11.99 is equivalent to buying a six-pack for $34.00.
ack...now I know the math and can't go back!
but a lot of things in bombers are not available in 6packs and have much higher ABV


An 11.5% bomber contains 2.92 ounces of ethanol -- at $11.99, that's $4.11 per ounce.
A 7.5% six-pack contains 5.40 ounces of ethanol -- at $11.99, that's $2.22 per ounce.

So the question becomes, is the flavor that you're paying so dearly for worth that much more, or is there something close to it that's a better value?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 24, 2014, 10:26:00 am
Quote from: grateful on October 24, 2014, 10:13:00 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol
ok...consider me 'schooled'
Don't think I've seen people refer to alcohol content in beer as ethanol before?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 24, 2014, 10:31:23 am
If the price per ounce were the same for 11.2 oz bottles and 25.4 oz bottles, I'd still pick the 11.2 oz bottle every time, because who in there right mind would want to drink 25.4 oz of beer on their own in one sitting anyway?  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 24, 2014, 05:40:29 pm
Poor 3 Stars can't even land a beer in the top 20 for DC.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/dc/

I'm afraid they're going to lose a star.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 25, 2014, 12:23:45 pm
when you have the opportunity to drink a founders harvest ale . . . you realize that sculpin is not a good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2014, 12:48:42 pm
I think it all depends on which is the freshest.

Hey Walky, you ever been to the Three Brothers taproom?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/31460/
http://threebrosbrew.com/

Is that out your way?

That Resolute they are releasing on 11/15 at the brewery looks pretty damn good.



Quote from: walkonby on October 25, 2014, 12:23:45 pm
when you have the opportunity to drink a founders harvest ale . . . you realize that sculpin is not a good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2014, 09:25:10 pm
3 bro's Resolute (Bourbon Barrel Imperial Stout) is great stuff
bought a bomber for like $18 last year....waited about 4 months to drink it and it was delish
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2014, 10:18:07 pm
Best beer brewed in VA according to this list.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/va/


Quote from: Sidehatch on October 25, 2014, 09:25:10 pm
3 bro's Resolute (Bourbon Barrel Imperial Stout) is great stuff
bought a bomber for like $18 last year....waited about 4 months to drink it and it was delish
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 26, 2014, 09:22:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



meanwhile in OR, HOTD adam clocks in at #47.  the concentration of excellent beer in that state is absurd.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/or/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 10:53:53 pm
Only 15 Oregon beers would crack the top 50 CA list. (Actually less because that would extend the list to 65..)

Quote from: stevewizzle on October 26, 2014, 09:22:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



meanwhile in OR, HOTD adam clocks in at #47.  the concentration of excellent beer in that state is absurd.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/or/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 27, 2014, 01:52:27 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 10:53:53 pm
Only 15 Oregon beers would crack the top 50 CA list. (Actually less because that would extend the list to 65..)

Quote from: stevewizzle on October 26, 2014, 09:22:29 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



meanwhile in OR, HOTD adam clocks in at #47.  the concentration of excellent beer in that state is absurd.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/or/

CA has the best, most inaccessible beer in the states.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 27, 2014, 08:19:28 am
Has a small growler of this yesterday. Yum. Right up there with Nugget Nectar, Cigar City Tocabaga, and MBC Zoe for best in class for amber ales.

(http://www.mustlovebeer.com/public/album_photo/34/a0/9f94_6fe3.JPG?c=6e25)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 27, 2014, 10:10:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 24, 2014, 10:31:23 am
because who in there right mind would want to drink 25.4 oz of beer on their own in one sitting anyway? 

me.

depending on the situation, i can kill a bomber of just about anything.  obviously not when i have responsibilities, but late on sunday when i'm going to spend 2 hours watching football before going to bed?  so the second glass will be a little flatter than the first.  i can deal with it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:49:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



I'm not sure multiple beers that have ratings from less than 100 people qualify as the best in the state.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 27, 2014, 10:50:41 am
 ;) ;) ;)


Quote from: sweetcell on October 27, 2014, 10:10:47 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 24, 2014, 10:31:23 am
because who in there right mind would want to drink 25.4 oz of beer on their own in one sitting anyway? 

me.

depending on the situation, i can kill a bomber of just about anything.  obviously not when i have responsibilities, but late on sunday when i'm going to spend 2 hours watching football before going to bed?  so the second glass will be a little flatter than the first.  i can deal with it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:51:03 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 24, 2014, 05:40:29 pm
Poor 3 Stars can't even land a beer in the top 20 for DC.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/dc/

I'm afraid they're going to lose a star.


I'm not sure multiple beers that have ratings from less than 100 people qualify as the best in DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 27, 2014, 10:53:13 am
The Bros set the rules, not us. I'm pretty sure they are not statisticians.

I can say that from my one visit to Tired Hands, they do some pretty damn good (and unique) beers. And the beers I had were none of the 26 on that list.


Quote from: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:49:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



I'm not sure multiple beers that have ratings from less than 100 people qualify as the best in the state.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:55:26 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 27, 2014, 10:53:13 am
The Bros set the rules, not us. I'm pretty sure they are not statisticians.

I can say that from my one visit to Tired Hands, they do some pretty damn good (and unique) beers. And the beers I had were none of the 26 on that list.


Quote from: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:49:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



I'm not sure multiple beers that have ratings from less than 100 people qualify as the best in the state.

I'm not doubting the deliciousness of Tired Hands' beers, but to for a list to contain 50% of their beers, something ain't right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 27, 2014, 11:02:21 am
They're not a commercial production brewery, in that they don't bottle their beers. (or they rarely do)

That has allowed them to do a shit-ton of beers in a short period of time (two years?), whereas your Victory's, your Troegs (ok, Troegs has their scratch series, but still), your Weyerbacher's, etc, despite being around much longer, do/have done less beers because they are sticking to a much smaller, more set portfolio.



Quote from: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:55:26 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 27, 2014, 10:53:13 am
The Bros set the rules, not us. I'm pretty sure they are not statisticians.

I can say that from my one visit to Tired Hands, they do some pretty damn good (and unique) beers. And the beers I had were none of the 26 on that list.


Quote from: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:49:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



I'm not sure multiple beers that have ratings from less than 100 people qualify as the best in the state.

I'm not doubting the deliciousness of Tired Hands' beers, but to for a list to contain 50% of their beers, something ain't right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 27, 2014, 06:02:49 pm
(http://www.skunkwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/cat-need-diz.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on October 28, 2014, 04:08:54 am
I finally went to Bad Wolf in Manassas. Its tiny and wonderful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 28, 2014, 02:40:09 pm
They changed the rules. No more one time only beers. Now Tired Hands has only 12 of the top 50.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/

And there are only 43 beers total that even qualify for DC.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/dc/


Quote from: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:49:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



I'm not sure multiple beers that have ratings from less than 100 people qualify as the best in the state.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 28, 2014, 10:39:22 pm
wasn't solar abyss a one time brew?

Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2014, 02:40:09 pm
They changed the rules. No more one time only beers. Now Tired Hands has only 12 of the top 50.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/

And there are only 43 beers total that even qualify for DC.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/dc/


Quote from: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:49:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



I'm not sure multiple beers that have ratings from less than 100 people qualify as the best in the state.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on October 29, 2014, 08:28:57 am
Quote from: brennser on October 28, 2014, 10:39:22 pm
wasn't solar abyss a one time brew?

Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2014, 02:40:09 pm
They changed the rules. No more one time only beers. Now Tired Hands has only 12 of the top 50.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/

And there are only 43 beers total that even qualify for DC.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/dc/


Quote from: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:49:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



I'm not sure multiple beers that have ratings from less than 100 people qualify as the best in the state.

I hope not. I'd rank it as the best DC beer I've had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 29, 2014, 08:48:05 am
If it was brewed within the last year, it doesn't yet qualify as a one time only beer. Even if it specifically was intended as a one time beer. At least that's the way I read it.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/retiring-limited-brewed-once-beers.221819/

I agree with FAtskippy. We need more Solar Abyss!



Quote from: brennser on October 28, 2014, 10:39:22 pm
wasn't solar abyss a one time brew?

Quote from: James Ford on October 28, 2014, 02:40:09 pm
They changed the rules. No more one time only beers. Now Tired Hands has only 12 of the top 50.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/

And there are only 43 beers total that even qualify for DC.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/dc/


Quote from: Yada on October 27, 2014, 10:49:54 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 26, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Holy cow. 26 of the top 50 in PA from Tired Hands. Two from Victory. Two from Troegs. None from Weyerbacher.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/pa/



I'm not sure multiple beers that have ratings from less than 100 people qualify as the best in the state.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2014, 09:21:27 am
WF foggy bottom has both PumpKYn and Rumpkin.  at $15..99 + DC tax for 12 oz, i passed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 29, 2014, 11:35:43 am
Had one of these on draft last night. Nice job, Flying Dog.

Also had a taste of Sam Adams KMF Grand Cru...which was surprisingly good.


(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QF4M2HyJxew/0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 29, 2014, 11:39:45 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 29, 2014, 11:35:43 am
Had one of these on draft last night. Nice job, Flying Dog.

Also had a taste of Sam Adams KMF Grand Cru...which was surprisingly good.


(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QF4M2HyJxew/0.jpg)

I enjoyed that Flying Dog brew as well. Kind of strange I had never even heard of a blood orange IPA then all of a sudden I saw a handful in a few weeks.

Off topic, anyone have a friend close to The Bruery?

I won the chance to purchase three bottles of their black Friday release, but you have to pick the bottles up in person.

Willing to share the wealth if someone would like to pick up and ship to me!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2014, 11:43:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 29, 2014, 11:35:43 am
Also had a taste of Sam Adams KMF Grand Cru...which was surprisingly good.

where?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 29, 2014, 11:50:39 am
They just put it on last night at Georgetown Paradiso.

Quote from: sweetcell on October 29, 2014, 11:43:52 am
Quote from: James Ford on October 29, 2014, 11:35:43 am
Also had a taste of Sam Adams KMF Grand Cru...which was surprisingly good.

where?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 31, 2014, 11:00:16 am
Anybody have this yet?

My friend just brought me five cans, courtesy of his brother in SC.

(http://philly.thedrinknation.com/uploads/images/2013-10-23-westbrookgose-int.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 01, 2014, 02:20:08 pm
i like avery, and what they do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 01, 2014, 11:57:20 pm
so i was in Tysons this afternoon and was looking forward to checking out the Whole Foods there.  i had a growler with me in hopes of picking up something fun.  total disappointment: they only had pumpkin beers on tap.  i left with some Opal, Dirty Bastard and Sam Smith's Organic Chocolate Stout for the missus; so not a complete loss.  but damn... i'm all for seasons, but does it have to be a complete takeover?!?

Quote from: James Ford on October 31, 2014, 11:00:16 am
Anybody have this yet?

i haven't but folks on BA & a beer brewing forum i'm on get pretty damn excited about it.  do let us know how it tastes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 03, 2014, 02:35:33 pm
Westbrook Gose is excellent! Definitely bottle shareworthy.

If it were locally available, it would be my goes to low calorie beer.

I noticed that WG is an April-October beer. I also noticed that they oddly ship to my brother's new home of upstate New York. I had him pick up two six packs for me to bring home from Thanksgiving. Hopefully, most of it actually makes it home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 05, 2014, 09:30:30 pm
ok beer lovers.. I need your help.. I would like to get my hands on this.. on one of the boxes with the Guided By Voices 10 inch record... any suggestions on what I should do?

All help appreciated

http://www.dogfish.com/community/blogfish/members/janellemiley/beer-thousand-is-on-the-way.htm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2014, 11:26:41 am
for the sour-heads:

Where
Meridian Pint - 3400 11th St. NW (11th and Park Road)

Description

Starting Saturday morning (November 15), we will be turning 18 of our lines to tart, wild, and funky beers. They will remain this way until Monday, November 17!

We have stockpiled in the range of 40-45 sour beers and will be rotating through a mix of domestic and international sours.

The opening Saturday draft list will include a number of standouts and DC debuts:

Lost Rhino Consortium - DC Debut - a blend of a year-old sour blonde and a 2-3 year old blackberry/grape/honey farmhouse ale fermented with isolated Virginia yeast)

New Belgium Cherry Felix  - DC Debut - New Belgium's golden sour aged in cherry whiskey barrels)

Natty Greene's American Sour  - DC Debut - Flanders red-style aged two years in oak barrels with wild yeast and souring bacteria

Firestone Walker Bretta Weiss - Berliner weiss aged in french oak with wild yeast and bacteria

Atlas Brew Works Barrel-Aged Saison Des Fets - Dark winter saison aged 12 months in wine barrels with brett

We will also be featuring two rotating funky ciders from Millstone Cellars.
The openers will be:
American Sidra - a wild-yeast influenced cider based on Spanish Basque ciders
Bonfire - a sour cyser aged with cold smoked fish peppers

Other opening drafts:

Hof Ten Dormaal Zure Van Tildonk (unblended, spontaneously-fermented lambic)
Cuvee Des Jacobins Rouge
Lost Rhino Birth of Ace Brett IPA
Goose Island Lolita
Allagash Nancy - Sour red fermented with cherries and brettanomyces
Allagash Evora - Aged 16 months in Portuguese Brandy barrels with brettanomyces
Evil Twin Sour Bikini
Evil Twin Femme Fatale Kabosu
2013 Bruery Tart of Darkness
Sam Adams KMF Grand Cru
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2014, 11:30:57 am
Quote from: hutch on November 05, 2014, 09:30:30 pm
ok beer lovers.. I need your help.. I would like to get my hands on this.. on one of the boxes with the Guided By Voices 10 inch record... any suggestions on what I should do?

All help appreciated

http://www.dogfish.com/community/blogfish/members/janellemiley/beer-thousand-is-on-the-way.htm

start calling finer craft beer retailers - rodmans, magruders, etc - ask for their beer buyer, and talk to him/her.  they won't hold one for you, but might tell you when they are expecting these (if they are expecting them).  if they aren't going to get any, ask if they know who might be.

you could try the BeerAdvocate forum, but that's generally for trades.  i don't know if you'll have any luck asking someone to buy it for you... but you never know.  worth a shot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on November 07, 2014, 06:28:43 pm
Flying Dog beers inspired by Otterbein's Bakery?

Has anyone tried them???

I need a good holiday brew. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 07, 2014, 08:12:54 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 06, 2014, 11:30:57 am
Quote from: hutch on November 05, 2014, 09:30:30 pm
ok beer lovers.. I need your help.. I would like to get my hands on this.. on one of the boxes with the Guided By Voices 10 inch record... any suggestions on what I should do?

All help appreciated

http://www.dogfish.com/community/blogfish/members/janellemiley/beer-thousand-is-on-the-way.htm

start calling finer craft beer retailers - rodmans, magruders, etc - ask for their beer buyer, and talk to him/her.  they won't hold one for you, but might tell you when they are expecting these (if they are expecting them).  if they aren't going to get any, ask if they know who might be.

you could try the BeerAdvocate forum, but that's generally for trades.  i don't know if you'll have any luck asking someone to buy it for you... but you never know.  worth a shot.

so much work.. and i hate using the phone or asking people for favors..

i'm fucked.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 07, 2014, 08:18:41 pm
I think "I love LA" is like the anthem for that city!

I also thought of the Frank Black/Black Francis/Charles Sumner/whatever he's calling himself this week song...

of course there is that Chili Peppers one.....under the bridge....

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 17, 2014, 01:42:34 pm
Finally tried the Founder's Backwoods Bastard on tap at Churchkey over the weekend. It's a beautiful thing!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2014, 02:27:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 06, 2014, 11:26:41 am
for the sour-heads:

Where
Meridian Pint - 3400 11th St. NW (11th and Park Road)

Description

Starting Saturday morning (November 15), we will be turning 18 of our lines to tart, wild, and funky beers. They will remain this way until Monday, November 17!

made it out to this on saturday.  spent about 3 hours sipping away while catching up with friends.  highlights:
- NB Cherry Felix
- Lost Rhino Consortium
- Allagash Nancy
- Allagash Evora
- Lost Rhino Birth of an Ace
- Atlas Saison des Fetes

great afternoon of sipping... had a blast.  left with a happy but wrecked palate ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 19, 2014, 03:34:34 pm
damn... not much action in the beer thread with Jimmy gone. ;0(

What's a fair price for BCBS?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 19, 2014, 03:50:20 pm
$0.50 per ounce.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 19, 2014, 03:52:08 pm
Quote from: grateful on November 19, 2014, 03:50:20 pm
$0.50 per ounce.

you forgot to log into the James Ford account.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 20, 2014, 05:56:13 pm
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/growlerwerks/the-ukegtm-pressurized-growler-for-fresh-beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 20, 2014, 09:38:58 pm
has space dust reached the east coast in six-packs or bombers?

that beer rules.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on November 20, 2014, 10:43:14 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 20, 2014, 09:38:58 pm
has space dust reached the east coast in six-packs or bombers?

that beer rules.

yes its excellent! bombers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 20, 2014, 11:20:30 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on November 20, 2014, 09:38:58 pm
has space dust reached the east coast
and here I thought this was Philae related
POTW
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 24, 2014, 12:03:53 pm
I was drinking these guys most of the weekend, quite delicious and crushable.

(http://s18.postimg.org/6emerql9l/modern.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 25, 2014, 11:55:36 am
Thanksgiving at City Tap House.

 
"Not Your Average" Thanksgiving

We have decided to celebrate Thanksgiving with flair. We got our hands on some rare beers and had Chef recreate some of his holiday favorties - all with a unique twist! Some of the staff's favorites of the day include the Chantenay Carrot Soup, Hudson Valley Foie Gras Toasty, Spring Field Farm Turkey, and Cervena Venison.  For dessert, indulge in our Classic Pumpkin Pie, Apple Cake, or Dark Chocolate Pot de Crème.  Guests are invited to pair any of these Thanksgiving menu items with seasonal draft beers that will be poured exclusively on Thursday, November 27th.  Highlights include Imperial Doughnut Break by Evil Twin Brewing; Kentucky Breakfast Stout by Founders Brewing Company; Barrel-Aged Project Brew (2014) by Brouwerij Hof Ten Dormaal; Pappy Van Winkle Barrel-Aged Porter by Abita; The Beast Grand Cru and 5 Monks by Avery Brewing Company.  For reservations, call 202.733.5333.  Festivities begin at noon.
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 27, 2014, 11:51:25 pm
Family? Fuck you family . . . I'm going to drink some fucking beer with my fucking thanksgiving.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2014, 11:27:06 am
I miss the beer thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 12:01:34 pm
why?

it turned into a pretentious circle jerk of IPA connoisseurs and BA ratings over the past two years. "but did you think it was better than the infamous heady topper?".  who cares, it's beer.

every now and then there's a good post sprinkled in, but for the most part it's meaningless banter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2014, 12:14:32 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 12:01:34 pm
why?

it turned into a pretentious circle jerk of IPA connoisseurs and BA ratings over the past two years. "but did you think it was better than the infamous heady topper?".  who cares, it's beer.

every now and then there's a good post sprinkled in, but for the most part it's meaningless banter.

You mad steve?

Blame it on James Ford.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 12:23:36 pm
Mad isn't the right word. Just bored with it all
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2014, 12:26:17 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 12:23:36 pm
Mad isn't the right word. Just bored with it all

On that note, picked up some Blackout Stoudt the other night and it was fucking delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 12:45:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2014, 12:26:17 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 12:23:36 pm
Mad isn't the right word. Just bored with it all

On that note, picked up some Blackout Stoudt the other night and it was fucking delicious.

i miss great lakes brews, and midwest stouts in general.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 12:51:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2014, 12:14:32 pm
Blame it on James Ford.

i wouldn't blame JF.  he's a hobbyist when it comes to beer and i respect his passion. i don't really dig his penny-pinching, ounce counting, IPA rating, german bashing ways, but so it goes. i've had many beers with him in person and always enjoy our conversation.

overall, the craft beer scene has become so monotonous, it's suffocating.  all beer bars look the same (or a slight variation).  all beer festivals are stupid.  the little guys keep selling out to AB-IB.  "proper etiquette" is pushed around like this is wine, or something. reserve societies are becoming a thing even before a brewery opens. the word "artisan" is thrown around like these people aren't just dumping pallets of grain and mixing it with some tap water and hops. in general, people care too much about (IMO) all the wrong things.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 05, 2014, 01:18:19 pm
maybe you should stop caring so much about beer and the scene, and the term craft, and the ipa drinkers versus the stout drinkers, and the homebrewers,  and the brands, and the bars, and the talkers and the walkers, and the ibus, and percentages, and the price . . . and just drink the stuff, remember what you like and buy that.  get excited and try new stuff.  the end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 01:32:17 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 05, 2014, 01:18:19 pm
maybe you should stop caring so much about beer and the scene, and the term craft, and the ipa drinkers versus the stout drinkers, and the homebrewers,  and the brands, and the bars, and the talkers and the walkers, and the ibus, and percentages, and the price . . . and just drink the stuff, remember what you like and buy that.  get excited and try new stuff.  the end.

yeah that's pretty much the idea.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 05, 2014, 01:37:55 pm
my friend and i talk about wine snobs versus beer snobs, and how both of them compare and contrast in actions, verbiage, attitudes.  many sneers and eyes rolled are shared for the both of them.  people have a bad habit, and need, to appear that they know something in front of other people.  i just keep to myself regarding beer and enjoy in the delight of finding something new while lurking through the store, that makes me fall in love with a new brewery.

such as avery.  gosh, i love them now and have enjoyed everything i have tried of theirs.  except the stout.  i don't like stouts, but that's ok. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2014, 01:39:10 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 05, 2014, 01:37:55 pm
my friend and i
Your friend or your BOYFRIEND?

Ooooooooooooooohhhohoohohohohh!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 05, 2014, 01:41:17 pm
if it was my partner . . . i would have said, 'my partner.'  you made a whole post, referencing just that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2014, 01:42:49 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 05, 2014, 01:41:17 pm
if it was my partner . . . i would have said, 'my partner.'  you made a whole post, referencing just that?
Do you like him or do you "like, like" him?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 05, 2014, 01:45:20 pm
i fail to understand the direction of your posts, or the point of who i am supposed to like, like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2014, 01:47:16 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 05, 2014, 01:45:20 pm
i fail to understand the direction of your posts, or the point of who i am supposed to like, like.
Ohmygod, you're being to-tal-ly crazy!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 05, 2014, 01:49:04 pm
ahh, now i understand.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 05, 2014, 02:02:47 pm
really spicing up this Beer thread
I'm sure SteveW is reading every post with anticipation of the next
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2014, 02:06:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on December 05, 2014, 02:02:47 pm
really spicing up this Beer thread
I'm sure SteveW is reading every post with anticipation of the next
SteveW and you might start making out?! That's so crazy, why would you even suggest that?!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2014, 02:12:52 pm
I also drank Backwoods Bastard the other night, didn't like it all that much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2014, 02:14:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2014, 02:12:52 pm
I also drank Backwoods Bastard the other night, didn't like it all that much.
You didn't like it at all or you just aren't sure if you LIKE-like it yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 05, 2014, 02:18:41 pm
oh..happy Repeal Day (http://www.repealday.org/)  by far my favorite beer themed amendment
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2014, 02:20:10 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on December 05, 2014, 02:14:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2014, 02:12:52 pm
I also drank Backwoods Bastard the other night, didn't like it all that much.
You didn't like it at all or you just aren't sure if you LIKE-like it yet?

you have poor reading comprehension.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 05, 2014, 02:20:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2014, 02:12:52 pm
I also drank with a Backwoods Bastard the other night, didn't like it all that much.
hmm...really should talk about Julian like that
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2014, 02:24:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on December 05, 2014, 02:20:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2014, 02:12:52 pm
I also drank with a Backwoods Bastard the other night, didn't like it all that much.
hmm...really should talk about Julian like that
You're being CRAZY!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 02:48:25 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on December 05, 2014, 02:06:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on December 05, 2014, 02:02:47 pm
really spicing up this Beer thread
I'm sure SteveW is reading every post with anticipation of the next
SteveW and you might start making out?! That's so crazy, why would you even suggest that?!

meh, i'm just bitter and have lost a lot of faith in this board when we failed to send killsaly to nickelback and banned atomic/JF, who were possibly the same person the more i think about it. but probably not.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 02:53:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2014, 02:12:52 pm
I also drank Backwoods Bastard the other night, didn't like it all that much.

i heard this years batch is excellent. this is one of my favorite beers... definitely one of the more unique barrel-aged beers, and a beer that i discovered through the beer thread!  i cracked open a 2011 a few weeks ago and was sad to see it took a turn south. 

i took this week off from drinking after last week got a little crazy.  blew through a keg of homebrew in just under 2 weeks - with help from friends of course.  i'm sitting on a couple great bottles i can't wait to open, including 2013 backwoods (thanks sweetcell!), BA narwhal, abyss, BA speedway, and 2013 kentucky dark star.  winter is my favorite time to consume.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 05, 2014, 03:27:06 pm
Got my hands of one of these and offered as a 'dessert beer' at my Thanksgiving
Very tasty and not too boozy
(http://www.recommendeddaily.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/bourbonbarrelquad-100614.jpg)

Guy was surprised his store even got them as he bragged only 20 cases were delivered to the whole state of Florida
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 05, 2014, 04:01:31 pm
So I call my local American Tap Room to see if they have something interesting on tap (thinking maybe a Lagunitas Brown Sugga.  Like I had last year at this time) . Lo and behold the bartender tells me they have the Goose Island Bourbon County Stout. What kind of pour and how expensive?, I ask......Eight ounces for $15, he says.  YIKES!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2014, 05:42:17 pm
what's the best place to grab a beer around Eastern Market?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2014, 05:46:57 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 05, 2014, 01:37:55 pm
people have a bad habit, and need, to appear that they know something in front of other people.

does it need to be a bad habit?  can't people just enjoy beer and not have it be a bad thing? 

Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2014, 02:20:10 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on December 05, 2014, 02:14:32 pm
You didn't like it at all or you just aren't sure if you LIKE-like it yet?

you have poor reading comprehension.

he has selective reading comprehension.

Quote from: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 02:53:24 pm
i'm sitting on a couple great bottles i can't wait to open, including 2013 backwoods (thanks sweetcell!), BA narwhal, abyss, BA speedway, and 2013 kentucky dark star. 

please let me know how the BA'ed narwhal is.  i almost picked up a bottle today, but at $22 (including tax) i just couldn't justify it.  i can almost get two Unibroue 17 Grande Reserve at that price.

and THANK YOU for the KDS... it's on my radar for near-term consumption.  need to pare down that cellar.

Quote from: Sidehatch on December 05, 2014, 03:27:06 pm
Got my hands of one of these and offered as a 'dessert beer' at my Thanksgiving
Very tasty and not too boozy

BBQ is an amazing beer.  great choice for sharing with non-beer nerds, always seems to go over well.

Quote from: Bagley on December 05, 2014, 04:01:31 pm
What kind of pour and how expensive?, I ask......Eight ounces for $15, he says.  YIKES!

yup, that's BCBS for ya.  a 4-pack of small bottles is typically $24 or more.  whole foods in foggy bottom has it on tap right now (along with 2013 BCBS barleywine) at $10 for 10 oz.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on December 05, 2014, 05:57:17 pm
Magruders had a keg of 2013 BCBS for growler fills the week of Thanksgiving. It was delicious and a relatively good deal at $35. I brought a growler to Thanksgiving dinner, which was full of bud drinkers. They were not impressed. "Is this really even considered beer? You honestly like this?"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2014, 06:01:13 pm
yeah, not too surprising.  i would describe BCBS as an extreme beer".  definitely not for everyone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2014, 06:13:15 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 05, 2014, 05:42:17 pm
what's the best place to grab a beer around Eastern Market?

kind of a "craft" beer waste land down there, but a good amount of enjoyable bars.

http://beuchertssaloon.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2014, 06:29:49 pm
yada - cool, thanks.  might stop in for a perennial saison.

i also came across http://www.belgacafe.com/ in case i want to get my belgian on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 09:22:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 05, 2014, 05:46:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 02:53:24 pm
i'm sitting on a couple great bottles i can't wait to open, including 2013 backwoods (thanks sweetcell!), BA narwhal, abyss, BA speedway, and 2013 kentucky dark star. 

please let me know how the BA'ed narwhal is.  i almost picked up a bottle today, but at $22 (including tax) i just couldn't justify it.  i can almost get two Unibroue 17 Grande Reserve at that price.

and THANK YOU for the KDS... it's on my radar for near-term consumption.  need to pare down that cellar.

yeah, it was $22 for me.  at least it's a 750! still surprising to see something priced that high from sierra nevada. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2014, 09:36:07 pm
When does the narwhal bacon?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 06, 2014, 12:45:13 am
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on December 05, 2014, 09:36:07 pm
When does the narwhal bacon?

Ok, I'll bite: I don't know, when does narwhal bacon?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 06, 2014, 12:52:56 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 06, 2014, 12:45:13 am
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on December 05, 2014, 09:36:07 pm
When does the narwhal bacon?

Ok, I'll bite: I don't know, when does narwhal bacon?
Midnight, generally.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 06, 2014, 05:59:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 05, 2014, 06:29:49 pm

i also came across http://www.belgacafe.com/ in case i want to get my belgian on.
that place is awesome, food is as good as the beer selection
The waiter turned me on to this
(http://www.totalwine.com/_static/webupload/730/1_112696673_3.jpg)
and I was forever grateful
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 06, 2014, 06:04:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 05, 2014, 05:46:57 pm
  i can almost get two Unibroue 17 Grande Reserve at that price. tap right now (along with 2013 BCBS barleywine) at $10 for 10 oz.

Looked this up and now going to track this down
(http://www.unibroue.com/i/right/beers/Histoire_U17.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 06, 2014, 06:24:15 pm
I been drinking this Flying Dog double IPA with a 11.5%abv....it feels like I'm doing shots or something.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 06, 2014, 10:58:52 pm
cuvee rene = da (lemon) bomb.  my in-laws, who had never had a sour beer before this one, loved CR upon first sip.

Quote from: Sidehatch on December 06, 2014, 06:04:50 pm
Looked this up and now going to track this down

Whole Foods in foggy bottom has it right now.  i would look at other WFs.  pretty sure Rodmans has it too.

i'm a big fan of this beer.  in fact i'll be drinking a 2011 tomorrow night ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 07, 2014, 11:53:17 am
Friends,

Go out and get yourself a six pack of Jailbreak Brewing's Big Punisher DIPA. Ignore the beer nerd stats on BA and give this a taste. Imma go out on a limb and say it's the best DIPA in the DC/MD/VA area. Nicely priced and brewed in Laurel, Md.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on December 07, 2014, 07:15:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 07, 2014, 11:53:17 am
Friends,

Go out and get yourself a six pack of Jailbreak Brewing's Big Punisher DIPA. Ignore the beer nerd stats on BA and give this a taste. Imma go out on a limb and say it's the best DIPA in the DC/MD/VA area. Nicely priced and brewed in Laurel, Md.

Got some of this for a get together recently and was impressed.  I wouldn't go so far as to say best DIPA in the area, but it was a tasty brew.  Tasted like more of a single IPA to me personally, which is just fine. 

My favorite DIPA of the moment is the Flying Dog Galaxy single hop DIPA. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2014, 11:12:50 am
Quote from: medeski7 on December 07, 2014, 07:15:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 07, 2014, 11:53:17 am
Friends,

Go out and get yourself a six pack of Jailbreak Brewing's Big Punisher DIPA. Ignore the beer nerd stats on BA and give this a taste. Imma go out on a limb and say it's the best DIPA in the DC/MD/VA area. Nicely priced and brewed in Laurel, Md.

Got some of this for a get together recently and was impressed.  I wouldn't go so far as to say best DIPA in the area, but it was a tasty brew.  Tasted like more of a single IPA to me personally, which is just fine. 

My favorite DIPA of the moment is the Flying Dog Galaxy single hop DIPA. 

Haven't had that one...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 08, 2014, 01:16:39 pm
had some neat midnight sun brews this past weekend.  2013 berserker, and termination dust, a "belgian" barleywine.  termination dust was confusing, at best, but the berserker was excellent.  the bar had 2013 arctic devil and barfly on draft, but i didn't try them because it was Sunday evening and i wasn't trying to get wasted.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 08, 2014, 01:19:51 pm
speaking of alaska and barleywine and getting wasted, looks like anchorage brewed 700 cases worth of "a deal with the devil" this year.  it's bound to be north of $30 for a 750ml, but it's 18% and it's damn near the smoothest barleywine i've ever had.  i imagine it shows up in DC, but if not, do what you can to get your hands on two bottles, one to drink immediately, and one to age.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 09, 2014, 06:44:53 pm
speaking of Anchorage, i recently acquired their "The Tide and Its Takers" brett'ed triple.  giving a little time for the bugs to do their thing, but looking forward to enjoying it.  haven't had anything bad from Anchorage yet.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: miss pretentious on December 09, 2014, 08:17:39 pm
goose island's annual bourbon county stout is out. if you see it, drink it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: miss pretentious on December 09, 2014, 08:22:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 19, 2014, 03:34:34 pm
damn... not much action in the beer thread with Jimmy gone. ;0(

What's a fair price for BCBS?

on draft or in 4-packs?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 09, 2014, 08:56:42 pm
Quote from: miss pretentious on December 09, 2014, 08:22:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 19, 2014, 03:34:34 pm
damn... not much action in the beer thread with Jimmy gone. ;0(

What's a fair price for BCBS?
.

on draft or in 4-packs?


I was able to procure a few four packs, best price I found was$20.99
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: miss pretentious on December 09, 2014, 08:59:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 09, 2014, 08:56:42 pm
Quote from: miss pretentious on December 09, 2014, 08:22:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 19, 2014, 03:34:34 pm
damn... not much action in the beer thread with Jimmy gone. ;0(

What's a fair price for BCBS?
.

on draft or in 4-packs?


I was able to procure a few four packs, best price I found was$20.99


wow. i live in chicago, so i'm a bit spoiled... but people started lining up at like 6p on thanksgiving to buy it and the variants. the barleywine is just ok imo.

they also upped the distribution to larger chains and cut out a lot of the smaller businesses around here so it is even kinda difficult to procure in the city.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 10, 2014, 01:04:28 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 09, 2014, 06:44:53 pm
speaking of Anchorage, i recently acquired their "The Tide and Its Takers" brett'ed triple.  giving a little time for the bugs to do their thing, but looking forward to enjoying it.  haven't had anything bad from Anchorage yet.

neat, haven't seen that one. 

have you had their bitter monk? belgian IPA on brett.  it's really fucking incredible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 10, 2014, 06:09:05 pm
in case anyone was looking for an excuse to raid their cellar: this saturday - 12/13/14 - has been unofficially labeled "Vertical Day" (http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/vertical-day-12-13-14.234729/).  break out those mutli-year flights!

i was considering doing a '12/'13/'14 vertical of Parabola, then i realized that unless i recruit help i'm not going to survive it.  might need dig through the collection for something that comes in lower ABV and smaller bottles ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 10, 2014, 06:24:56 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on December 10, 2014, 01:04:28 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 09, 2014, 06:44:53 pm
speaking of Anchorage, i recently acquired their "The Tide and Its Takers" brett'ed triple.  giving a little time for the bugs to do their thing, but looking forward to enjoying it.  haven't had anything bad from Anchorage yet.

neat, haven't seen that one. 

have you had their bitter monk? belgian IPA on brett.  it's really fucking incredible.

got that Anchorage via a trade with someone in SF.  will keep my eyes open for the bitter monk.  IPA + belgian + brett sounds like an iffy combo but if anyone can pull it off, it'll be anchorage.

Quote from: miss pretentious on December 09, 2014, 08:17:39 pm
goose island's annual bourbon county stout is out. if you see it, drink it.

yup, been around since black friday.  getting regular was surprisingly easy.  the variants (barleywine, coffee, vanilla, etc) were impossible to find unless you stood in line early on black friday.

Quote from: miss pretentious on December 09, 2014, 08:17:39 pm
if you see it, drink it.

some people love it fresh but i'm more in the "sit on it" camp.  BCBS is too hot when fresh, IMO.  in a year or two it turns into something magical.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 10, 2014, 10:58:34 pm
I think she meant just drink it right in the store.  Like a download, pay what you want, or not. Just say, radio head to the cashier.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2014, 09:40:10 pm
http://alchemistbeer.com/product/heady-pepper-hot-sauce/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 20, 2014, 04:55:45 pm
swinging by de garde brewing tomorrow on my roadtrip down to northern california. looks like excellent timing (although when is it not?) as imperial peach bu, the lucy, and the boysen are all available for bottles-to-go.  they also have block 15 sticky hand's on as their guest tap, so there's that, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 21, 2014, 01:58:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2014, 09:40:10 pm
http://alchemistbeer.com/product/heady-pepper-hot-sauce/

is it only sold 2 bottles at a time, in three stores, that are only open on every other third Thursday?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 21, 2014, 08:01:21 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 21, 2014, 01:58:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2014, 09:40:10 pm
http://alchemistbeer.com/product/heady-pepper-hot-sauce/

is it only sold 2 bottles at a time, in three stores, that are only open on every other third Thursday?


Sounds like someone who's never had heady topper. #bitterwalky
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 21, 2014, 09:18:50 pm
I have been drinking some excellent beers lately. I can't wait to post a list of some of the highlights. News at 11.  what the wagon calls, and that is OK.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 21, 2014, 10:11:50 pm
In the spirit of walky's walkyness, I enjoyed a roanoke va craft brewery tour yesterday and probably tripled the amount of beer I've drank in the last year. I have tasting notes on 15 beers to share tomorrow!!

Sit tight!! (Until tomorrow!)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 21, 2014, 11:09:36 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 21, 2014, 08:01:21 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 21, 2014, 01:58:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2014, 09:40:10 pm
http://alchemistbeer.com/product/heady-pepper-hot-sauce/

is it only sold 2 bottles at a time, in three stores, that are only open on every other third Thursday?

Sounds like someone who's never had heady topper. #bitterwalky

#middlefinger

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on December 22, 2014, 03:54:08 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 21, 2014, 01:58:04 pm
is it only sold 2 bottles at a time, in three stores, that are only open on every other third Thursday?
You also have to know the secret knock to get into the store, and then a secret handshake to be allowed to purchase the beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 22, 2014, 04:47:23 pm
Quote from: killsaly? on December 22, 2014, 03:54:08 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 21, 2014, 01:58:04 pm
is it only sold 2 bottles at a time, in three stores, that are only open on every other third Thursday?
You also have to know the secret knock to get into the store, and then a secret handshake to be allowed to purchase the beer. 

sounds like some of those shows you keep posting in the just announced thread..


"house show in NE DC house!" ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 22, 2014, 06:07:04 pm
ooh, burn.  good, one
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 22, 2014, 06:16:46 pm
Quote from: walkonby on December 21, 2014, 09:18:50 pm
I have been drinking some excellent beers lately. I can't wait to post a list of some of the highlights. News at 11.  what the wagon calls, and that is OK.

my list of favorites:

gouden carolus noel

lagunitas  brown shugga  and sucks

north coast brewing   red seal ale

great lakes brewing   dortmunder gold

avery brewing   twenty one

green flash   white ipa

anderson valley    boont barl

hebrew    hop manna

st bernardus   prior 8 /  pater 6  /  tripel  /  wit  /  watou tripel

bells   christmas ale

avery   old jubilation ale

founders  backwoods bastard

schlafly   t ipa

   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 22, 2014, 07:30:19 pm
swung by de garde brewing on sunday to find out they were closed due to the flooding.  was real bummed because our plan was to stop in and take a nice long break from driving down the coast to california, and really, there's nothing else around tillamook.  they had a nice note posted on the door to call with any questions if you came from out of town.  i called the number to see if there was anywhere around town i could buy their beers since i've never had them before, and the nice women on the phone asked if i could wait 15 minutes, and that she'd come down and open up.

about 20 minutes later, we were inside de garde, just the three of us, tasting their four beers they had on tap (bu, berry bu, stone bu, and cran bu), shooting the shit with the co-owner.  i bought 1.5 cases of their beer, exchanged the only beer i had with me in the car (a fremont 4-pack) as a thanks, and left humbled and more or less speechless about the whole situation.

two things really stuck out.  one - i hope i can one day have a profession where i'd go that far out of my way to show how much i care about my work, and two - their beer is fucking amazing.  the labeling, the ingredients, the process, the prices... it's all stuck out as completely original without escaping the idea that it's just beer. 

i very much look forward to opening bottles of their bu, mperial peach bu, boysen, lucy, and petite desay that i purchased, and hope i can make it back there soon to drink more of their beer.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 22, 2014, 07:54:48 pm
Drunk walky is back for good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 22, 2014, 07:56:15 pm
Gurrl
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 23, 2014, 10:16:20 am
not beer, but I joined this wine club where we get some bottles delivered a few times a year
prices are really good and the wifey isn't too picky as long it's the type she likes (pinot noir)
But we got two bottles of this and it's not a bad wine, but I can only wonder if this brand is really regretting their name choice
(http://dmqih2aitelr9.cloudfront.net/manager/images/34/40/57ded645de0cd3794ea2bf8cea67f921.)

Too bad James isn't here to make some inappropriate comment

Although you do need to use a really big knife to get the cork off  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2014, 11:43:03 am
so why does some beer freeze at certain temperatures while other does not?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 23, 2014, 11:47:18 am
Alcohol content?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2014, 11:55:39 am
Quote from: grateful on December 23, 2014, 11:47:18 am
Alcohol content?

yeah the one that doesn't freeze is 10% Beer Thousand.. and the other that does freeze is yuengling


so alcohol content makes the difference?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 23, 2014, 01:08:15 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 23, 2014, 11:55:39 am
Quote from: grateful on December 23, 2014, 11:47:18 am
Alcohol content?

yeah the one that doesn't freeze is 10% Beer Thousand.. and the other that does freeze is yuengling


so alcohol content makes the difference?

yes.

freezing point of water = 32*F
freezing point of ethanol (alcohol) = -179*f

freezing point of a 5% beer = 22*F
freezing point off a 10% beer = 11*F

the 10% beer should likely freeze overtime.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 23, 2014, 02:00:27 pm
any opinion on who makes the most tasty sessionable IPA?   I like the Go to by Stone but that's as far as I've gotten.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 23, 2014, 02:53:06 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on December 23, 2014, 01:08:15 pm

freezing point of water = 32*F
freezing point of ethanol (alcohol) = -179*f

freezing point of a 5% beer = 22*F
freezing point off a 10% beer = 11*F

the 10% beer should likely freeze overtime.
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/yeah-science-bitch-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 23, 2014, 02:53:22 pm
LOL
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 24, 2014, 02:45:47 am
nice
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 24, 2014, 02:48:40 am
Quote from: Bagley on December 23, 2014, 02:00:27 pm
any opinion on who makes the most tasty sessionable IPA?   I like the Go to by Stone but that's as far as I've gotten.

whatever is freshest. its a good rule of thumb for any IPA, but i find session IPAs to fade incredibly fast in quality.  founders all day IPA might be my favorite fresh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on December 24, 2014, 06:06:20 pm
Quote from: Bagley on December 23, 2014, 02:00:27 pm
any opinion on who makes the most tasty sessionable IPA?   I like the Go to by Stone but that's as far as I've gotten.

Stone Go To is probably my favorite session IPA, but make sure to check the bottles for the freshest date possible.

Looking forward to popping open a Hardywood Gingerbread Stout tonight!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 26, 2014, 03:33:34 pm
im all about barley wines.  never had them, now i like them.  and they are everywhere.  going to try something called 

avery  hog heaven
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 02, 2015, 04:13:55 pm
merry christmas to me.  box from bressner on the left, de garde stash on the right.

(http://i.imgur.com/VK0Q5IJl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VK0Q5IJ)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 05, 2015, 12:04:53 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 02, 2015, 04:13:55 pm
merry christmas to me.  box from bressner on the left, de garde stash on the right.

(http://i.imgur.com/VK0Q5IJl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VK0Q5IJ)

enjoy my friend :-)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 05, 2015, 01:05:54 pm
fresh back from 2 weeks in Baja.  nothing but Corona, Tecate, Dos Equis and Pacifico - AKA a beer wasteland.

got home and immediately knocked back a Westie 12, Allagash Farm to Face, Almanac Dogpatch Sour and a homebrewed chocolate imperial stout while catching up on (american) football.

all is good now.

Quote from: stevewizzle on December 22, 2014, 07:30:19 pm
swung by de garde brewing on sunday

cool story, bro (no, seriously, sounded like a very cool experience!).

brennser hookups are the best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 05, 2015, 01:21:28 pm
some beer readings for yaz:

Flying Dog plans to open brewery in Leesburg, Virginia
http://www.wusa9.com/story/money/consumer/2014/12/30/flying-dog-to-open-brewery-in-leesburg-va/21039753/ (note typo in last sentence ;D)

Craft Brewers Are Running Out Of Names, And Into Legal Spats
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2015/01/05/369445171/craft-brewers-are-running-out-of-names-and-into-legal-spats
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 05, 2015, 02:37:11 pm
Wow.

https://www.beermenus.com/places/18255-dominion-wine-and-beer

Wow, wow, wow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 05, 2015, 03:51:04 pm
Quote from: grateful on January 05, 2015, 02:37:11 pm
Wow.

https://www.beermenus.com/places/18255-dominion-wine-and-beer

Wow, wow, wow.

good selection.  i would skip the Mephistopheles and Raison D'Extra, doubtful that either of those are great fresh.  i'd be all over that Flower Power.  if i was buying a growler for the masses, Mirror Pond and Pale 31 would be my choices.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 05, 2015, 06:51:20 pm
more beer readings:

for stevewizzle: Jack?s Abby Brewing Is Building a Massive New Brewery
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/restaurants/blog/2014/12/17/jacks-abby-brewing-building-massive-new-brewery/

Wasted: How the craft-beer movement abandoned Jim Koch (and his beloved Sam Adams)
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/restaurants/article/2015/01/05/jim-koch-sam-adams-beer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2015, 11:29:32 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jXIR2J0lk0&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 06, 2015, 11:49:46 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 05, 2015, 06:51:20 pm
for stevewizzle: Jack?s Abby Brewing Is Building a Massive New Brewery
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/restaurants/blog/2014/12/17/jacks-abby-brewing-building-massive-new-brewery/

nice. hoponious union for everyone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 06, 2015, 03:37:33 pm
I just got back from a bunch of breweries in NoCo.  Supposedly the beer's pretty good there, but I wouldn't know.

Oskar Blues
Left Hand
Big Beaver
Grimm Brothers

Are the one's I can remember.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2015, 04:01:37 pm
http://draftmag.com/americas-100-best-beer-bars-2015/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 06, 2015, 04:18:16 pm
i always like this list. 

happy proleteriat gets a feature. i love that place.

i live a block or two from both pine box and stumbling monk, life is good. the omission of brouwers is by far the most egregious i can note for this years list.  it may be the best beer bar in the country, period, and yes, i realize toronado is also not listed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 06, 2015, 05:17:19 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on January 06, 2015, 04:18:16 pm
and yes, i realize toronado is also not listed.
for shame!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2015, 06:12:08 pm
Quote from: vansmack on January 06, 2015, 03:37:33 pm
I just got back from a bunch of breweries in NoCo.  Supposedly the beer's pretty good there, but I wouldn't know.

Oskar Blues
Left Hand
Big Beaver
Grimm Brothers

Are the one's I can remember.

nice!

so, how many of those places did you walk in and ask to see the wine list?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on January 06, 2015, 06:18:38 pm
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/jjdynomite/332be62c-c5b3-4aa4-a908-14ba90f2900c.jpg?t=1420496309)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 06, 2015, 06:37:25 pm
Quote from: killsaly of the Clan MacLeod on January 06, 2015, 06:18:38 pm
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/jjdynomite/332be62c-c5b3-4aa4-a908-14ba90f2900c.jpg?t=1420496309)

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 07, 2015, 02:37:16 pm
http://gawker.com/mostly-middle-aged-men-die-of-alcohol-poisoning-1677960188

space freely, should enjoy, this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 07, 2015, 02:48:33 pm
ack...now I have to worry about alcohol poisoning too!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 09, 2015, 07:24:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2015, 06:12:08 pm
nice!

so, how many of those places did you walk in and ask to see the wine list?

Every one of them, save for Left Hand, where I promptly walked in and shouted "My People!" arms raised of course.

It is strangely not a requirement to be left handed to work there.  Milk Stout was good though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on January 10, 2015, 12:30:30 am
http://www.forbes.com/sites/megykarydes/2015/01/05/the-120-shaved-black-truffle-pilsner-by-moody-tongue/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 12, 2015, 08:56:37 pm
ive had some really nice beers, lately.  its funny in my neck of the woods.  first, you had to go up to northern virginia, normally to total wine to find the "good stuff."  Then a single beer shoppeee opened locale, selling fine selections, then another one, then another . . . each always needing to sell other things to survive, such as wine, cheeses, meats, some grocery stuff, things, like, that and all gouging the fuck out of you on fine selections.  But now, a store has opened that actually is renting two side by side spaces, to sell beer only.  beer only.  the name of it is amusing, too.  they have reps from breweries come from all over, such as dfh, founders, flying dog, and others on weekends just to sample beers and non releases.  Full kegs of hard to finds, growlers (best ive seen in terms of seals for the top) of over 15-20 beers, special release kegs and unreleased kegs on tap.  total, fucking, beer, store.  in my area.  wow.  and to rub hops in the competition's brain, they beat everyone's overinflated, we charge you that because you'll pay it, prices.  big time price beating.   the folks around here who love good beer are going ape shit.   

jesus . . . Christ.  so, anyway, i'll tell you about all the great beers i've had lately, later.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 13, 2015, 02:50:17 pm
Redbeard Brewing Company in Staunton, VA announces a last minute beer release. A 15 month version of our Van Winkle aged Moriarty Stout will be tapped 01/16. The 6 month release was rated 91 by the Bros, 12 month has an 91 overall. A coffee aged variant will be available around 01/23.
 

Sounds delicious, walky...isn't this in your 'hood?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:04:08 pm
Staunton is near Cville, brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 13, 2015, 04:04:51 pm
whats a good inexpensive light beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:04:51 pm
whats a good inexpensive light beer?

Miller High Life
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 13, 2015, 04:25:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:04:51 pm
whats a good inexpensive light beer?

Miller High Life

is miller high life a lite beer?

well I will have to go back to it then
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:27:06 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:25:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:04:51 pm
whats a good inexpensive light beer?

Miller High Life

is miller high life a lite beer?

well I will have to go back to it then

it sure as hell ain't a heavy beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 13, 2015, 04:29:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:27:06 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:25:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:04:51 pm
whats a good inexpensive light beer?

Miller High Life

is miller high life a lite beer?

well I will have to go back to it then

it sure as hell ain't a heavy beer.

yes yes...chuckle chuckle...

how about yuengling?

whats the heavyosity on that one?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 13, 2015, 04:29:26 pm
I think what yAda meant to say was, it sure ain't beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:35:54 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:29:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:27:06 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:25:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:04:51 pm
whats a good inexpensive light beer?

Miller High Life

is miller high life a lite beer?

well I will have to go back to it then

it sure as hell ain't a heavy beer.

yes yes...chuckle chuckle...

how about yuengling?

whats the heavyosity on that one?

the heavyosity is disgusting on that one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:36:38 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 13, 2015, 04:29:26 pm
I think what yAda meant to say was, it sure ain't beer.

walky, we're all praying for you at this tough time now that you fell off the wagon. I'm happy to invite you to the FB group that Julian created if you'd like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 13, 2015, 04:36:56 pm
why is it, that people who refuse to drink s***** beer, and will only drink what they consider to be fine craft beer, will always drink Rolling Rock?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 13, 2015, 04:41:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:36:38 pm
Quote from: walkonby on January 13, 2015, 04:29:26 pm
I think what yAda meant to say was, it sure ain't beer.

walky, we're all praying for you at this tough time now that you fell off the wagon. I'm happy to invite you to the FB group that Julian created if you'd like.

there's a way I feel right now, wish youd help me, but don't know how.  but we're all nuts so who helps who, some help when no one's got a clue.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 13, 2015, 04:42:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:35:54 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:29:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:27:06 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:25:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:04:51 pm
whats a good inexpensive light beer?

Miller High Life

is miller high life a lite beer?

well I will have to go back to it then

it sure as hell ain't a heavy beer.

yes yes...chuckle chuckle...

how about yuengling?

whats the heavyosity on that one?

the heavyosity is disgusting on that one.

miller high life has 143 calories but yuengling only 128

I guess its hard to do "better" than 128
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:47:07 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:42:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:35:54 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:29:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:27:06 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:25:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:04:51 pm
whats a good inexpensive light beer?

Miller High Life

is miller high life a lite beer?

well I will have to go back to it then

it sure as hell ain't a heavy beer.

yes yes...chuckle chuckle...

how about yuengling?

whats the heavyosity on that one?

the heavyosity is disgusting on that one.

miller high life has 143 calories but yuengling only 128

I guess its hard to do "better" than 128

but yuengling tastes awful. You should just drink Guinness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 13, 2015, 04:48:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:47:07 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:42:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:35:54 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:29:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:27:06 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:25:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Quote from: Connor Macleod on January 13, 2015, 04:04:51 pm
whats a good inexpensive light beer?

Miller High Life

is miller high life a lite beer?

well I will have to go back to it then

it sure as hell ain't a heavy beer.

yes yes...chuckle chuckle...

how about yuengling?

whats the heavyosity on that one?

the heavyosity is disgusting on that one.

miller high life has 143 calories but yuengling only 128

I guess its hard to do "better" than 128

but yuengling tastes awful. You should just drink Guinness.

hold on let me check my handy dandy chart....i'll be back in a sec
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 13, 2015, 04:51:15 pm
by golly you're right.. only 126..

still..what about all those carbs...i dunno
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 13, 2015, 05:09:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 13, 2015, 04:04:08 pm
Staunton is near Cville, brah.

it's all out there in the woods
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 13, 2015, 05:36:57 pm
you forgot to say, braH.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 13, 2015, 06:38:04 pm
http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article/341

I heard about this, on stern.

yadA . . . your retort?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 16, 2015, 12:18:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 05, 2014, 05:46:57 pm
Quote from: stevewizzle on December 05, 2014, 02:53:24 pm
i'm sitting on a couple great bottles i can't wait to open, including 2013 backwoods (thanks sweetcell!), BA narwhal, abyss, BA speedway, and 2013 kentucky dark star. 

please let me know how the BA'ed narwhal is.  i almost picked up a bottle today, but at $22 (including tax) i just couldn't justify it.  i can almost get two Unibroue 17 Grande Reserve at that price.

and THANK YOU for the KDS... it's on my radar for near-term consumption.  need to pare down that cellar.

BA narwhal was boring... fairly subtle. like regular narwhal better.  $22 is way too much for what it is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 16, 2015, 12:39:26 pm
Enjoyed this very much last night
(http://ct-static.com/labels/166569.jpg)

the beer list (http://lyonhallarlington.com/download/LyonHall_Menu_Beer.pdf) a Lyon hall is impressive
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 16, 2015, 12:46:51 pm
Duvel Single and Allagash Curieux on draft - nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 23, 2015, 04:18:28 pm
The beer thread seems to have all but died, but this is interesting news... InBev going after a foothold in the PNW.

http://allaboutbeer.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchases-elysian-brewing/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2015, 04:39:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 23, 2015, 04:18:28 pm
The beer thread seems to have all but died, but this is interesting news... InBev going after a foothold in the PNW.

http://allaboutbeer.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchases-elysian-brewing/



was at the brewpub last night.  didn't realize it would be the last time i had any of their beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 23, 2015, 05:26:39 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on January 23, 2015, 04:39:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 23, 2015, 04:18:28 pm
The beer thread seems to have all but died, but this is interesting news... InBev going after a foothold in the PNW.

http://allaboutbeer.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchases-elysian-brewing/



was at the brewpub last night.  didn't realize it would be the last time i had any of their beer.

damn, the man, spicy weiner.

https://twitter.com/EvilTwinBrewing/status/558692858396684289
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 23, 2015, 05:50:27 pm
meh.  if they keep their hands off of the beer, like they generally have done at Goose Island, this might be OK.  not the best, but OK.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on January 23, 2015, 05:56:09 pm
Double and triple IPA festival in the Bay Area on February 7; it is also one of the easier ways to get Pliny the Younger.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 23, 2015, 05:59:33 pm
in more uplifting new, i have a new favorite beer: Angel's Share, by Lost Abbey.  thick, deep malt, slightly sweet, just perfect amount of bourbon, looooong aftertaste.... amazing all around.

(http://americanbeertv.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Lost-Abbey-Angels-Share1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2015, 06:45:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 23, 2015, 05:50:27 pm
meh.  if they keep their hands off of the beer, like they generally have done at Goose Island, this might be OK.  not the best, but OK.

it's not about the beer, there's plenty quality beer and options around whether elysian sells out or not.

 it's about killing local beer culture (elysian is arguably the biggest influence in this community).  this BA post sums it up well: http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/anheuser-busch-bud-to-acquire-seattle-based-elysian-brewing-company.251035/page-3#post-3211668

i stopped buying BCBS this year.  i buy budweiser from AB-IB because it's cheap and tasty and honestly the american lager market isn't one i care about. but AB-IB buying up craft breweries is them buying up market space, shelf space in stores, taps at the bars, etc.. it's making it harder for craft breweries to compete.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2015, 06:47:26 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 23, 2015, 05:59:33 pm
in more uplifting new, i have a new favorite beer: Angel's Share, by Lost Abbey.  thick, deep malt, slightly sweet, just perfect amount of bourbon, looooong aftertaste.... amazing all around.

(http://americanbeertv.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Lost-Abbey-Angels-Share1.jpg)

angels share is straight up incredible.  angels share and deal with the devil are my two favorite english barleywines :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2015, 06:48:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 23, 2015, 05:26:39 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on January 23, 2015, 04:39:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 23, 2015, 04:18:28 pm
The beer thread seems to have all but died, but this is interesting news... InBev going after a foothold in the PNW.

http://allaboutbeer.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchases-elysian-brewing/



was at the brewpub last night.  didn't realize it would be the last time i had any of their beer.

damn, the man, spicy weiner.

https://twitter.com/EvilTwinBrewing/status/558692858396684289

damn the man indeed.  i know sometimes its about making that dollar, but damn.

there's some other photoshopped gems out there. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2015, 06:50:43 pm
Quote from: Venerable Bede on January 23, 2015, 05:56:09 pm
Double and triple IPA festival in the Bay Area on February 7; it is also one of the easier ways to get Pliny the Younger.

after RR pulled out of WA area, seattle breweries decided to make their own triple IPA festival of sorts.  this year, 31 breweries made a triple IPA.  the dates coincide with pliny the younger release  :P
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 23, 2015, 06:58:54 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10933921_10203494040094778_3930886579904924166_n.jpg?oh=bf597fdc84850102b007b68c37799fae&oe=556F38C8&__gda__=1433260471_3b740a87f71b62b5e73e0863bf8be9d2)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on January 27, 2015, 03:18:04 pm
Nugget Nectar hitting DC today, I hope to find some cans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 27, 2015, 04:07:43 pm
goodbye, beer thread, once again.  it was nice.  damn you, nugget nectar for coming out, now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on February 03, 2015, 10:57:52 am
Quote from: fatskippy on January 27, 2015, 03:18:04 pm
Nugget Nectar hitting DC today, I hope to find some cans.

I enjoy this year's offering.  It seems lighter to me than in year's past.  Also, I love that they've offered it in tall boys as well this year. 

Any news on Hopslam?  I have a sneaking suspicion it will be hitting DC stores this week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 03, 2015, 11:07:41 am
Quote from: medeski7 on February 03, 2015, 10:57:52 am
Quote from: fatskippy on January 27, 2015, 03:18:04 pm
Nugget Nectar hitting DC today, I hope to find some cans.

I enjoy this year's offering.  It seems lighter to me than in year's past.  Also, I love that they've offered it in tall boys as well this year. 

Any news on Hopslam?  I have a sneaking suspicion it will be hitting DC stores this week.


Hopslam has already hit PA.

Speaking of beer cans.  This, my hophead friends, is a beautiful thing-

http://beerstore.ballastpointbrewingandspirits.com/sculpin-ipa-12oz-cans-p650.aspx
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 03, 2015, 11:18:19 am
Even more beautiful. I will agree though, the Nugget Nectar is quite delicious this year!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7am1XcIAAAGzsv.png:large)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2015, 11:23:02 am
So drank up some of my first batch of homebrew this week
and very pleased with the results...body was a little off, but taste, smell and color were great
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10906005_10153538521604408_479492158057087708_n.jpg?oh=daeec4d39512f2ce5e4d928c71c48df1&oe=5553F8F7&__gda__=1431493789_360e129943aeb05ebfaa5fcb84521de9)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 03, 2015, 11:40:28 am
Quote from: Sidehatch    ┌∩┐(⋟﹏⋞)┌∩┐   ~~ ♬·¯·♩¸¸♪·¯·♫¸ on February 03, 2015, 11:23:02 am
So drank up some of my first batch of homebrew this week
and very pleased with the results...body was a little off, but taste, smell and color were great

nice! i assume that is the "before" pic?  hydrometer looks pretty high to be post-fermentation... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2015, 11:57:02 am
here is the after pic
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10155239_10153633932969408_7130657340491536980_n.jpg?oh=344bfe3150631e78ec7d6ad208dd9e16&oe=55618412)

At first putting in fermenter 1.050 (first pic

At bottling  1.020
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2015, 12:13:45 pm
I just bottled the Brown Ale last night
Which I'm affectionately calling James Brown Ale ....cause it's a little funky ;)

Also just received delivery of
Beer Making Mix: Warrior Double IPA
Beer Making Mix: Chocolate Maple Porter
Beer Making Mix: Evil Twin Bikini Beer


do to some space limitations at my place...I've been doing the 1 Gallon batches
but I will say I may upgrade to 5 gallon soon, as the 4-5 hours of labor would be exactly the same...but I would get over 2 cases of beer, instead of 10 bottles
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 03, 2015, 04:01:47 pm
def.must.upgrade.more.beer.is.good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 05, 2015, 07:17:16 pm
this is all i got for this thread

(https://files.list.co.uk/images/2015/01/29/big.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 06, 2015, 09:13:24 am
The Brewer's Art Zeke's Coffee Porter is one of the best beers I've had in a really long time. They're going to bottle it. Should be available on the 11th!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 06, 2015, 05:38:20 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA 'Star Whacker' on February 03, 2015, 12:13:45 pm
but I will say I may upgrade to 5 gallon soon, as the 4-5 hours of labor would be exactly the same...but I would get over 2 cases of beer, instead of 10 bottles

do it.  will mean that a few of your bottles will last long enough to get some age on them.  or that you have enough to share without feeling possessive ;D

Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA 'Star Whacker' on February 03, 2015, 11:57:02 am
At first putting in fermenter 1.050 (first pic

At bottling  1.020

get that FG down, boy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 06, 2015, 05:40:42 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on December 24, 2014, 06:06:20 pm
Looking forward to popping open a Hardywood Gingerbread Stout tonight!

got some bourbon barrel aged gingerbread stout today.  looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on February 09, 2015, 04:22:29 am
I had Hardywood's Milkman and Cigar City's Milkmaid. Put 'em together to make "The Heifer" as well. Pretty good strong stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on February 09, 2015, 12:49:13 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2015/02/06/churchkey-will-tap-a-keg-of-hopslam-at-4-p-m-monday/?hpid=z14
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 09, 2015, 01:19:47 pm
i'm not particularly excited for hopslam.  maybe i'll change my mind if reports are that this year's batch is amaze-balls, but barring that i doubt i'll buy any.  i'm not sure if the beer has gotten worse or if my tastes have change, but the last few years i've been underwhelmed.

an IIPA that i am really excited about is flying dog's single hop HBC-431.  it's a one-time release made with a new experimental hop that tastes amazing.  get it while you can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 09, 2015, 02:59:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 09, 2015, 01:19:47 pm
i'm not particularly excited for hopslam.  maybe i'll change my mind if reports are that this year's batch is amaze-balls, but barring that i doubt i'll buy any.  i'm not sure if the beer has gotten worse or if my tastes have change, but the last few years i've been underwhelmed.

an IIPA that i am really excited about is flying dog's single hop HBC-431.  it's a one-time release made with a new experimental hop that tastes amazing.  get it while you can.

My opinion is that there are just too many way better DIPAs than Hopslam. Five years or so ago it was one of kind, but now everyone makes a killer IPA/DIPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on February 09, 2015, 05:25:37 pm
From the weekend:, almost all IPAs, IIPAs, or IIIPAs:

Headland Brewing Hill 88
Alpine Beer Co. Hoppy Birthday
Faction Brewing 2 Hop Pale (Amarillo/Polaris)
Faction Brewing 2 Hop Pale (El Dorado/Polaris)
Faction Brewing Winter IPA
Faction Brewing Monstrous Cabal (collaboration with Gigantic Brewing)
Faction Brewing Pennypacker 120
Pliny the Younger
Bear Republic Fastback Racer X3
Boneyard Beer Co Hop Venom
Societe Brewing The Roustabout
Societe Brewing The Miser
Almanac Beer Co Don't Call it Frisco
Line 51 High Plains Drifter
Monkey Paw Brewing Muriqui
Monkey Paw Brewing Migrating Monkey (collaboration with Drakes)
Lagunitas Fusion 22
Mraz Brewing EDH IPA
Ell Segundo Brewing Hop Tanker
Figueroa Mountain Brewing Lizard's Mouth

I really enjoyed both Societe pours, both Monkey Paws, and the Faction/Giagantic collaboration.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 09, 2015, 05:46:27 pm
^^very nice^^

Shit show at Russian River?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on February 09, 2015, 05:58:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 09, 2015, 05:46:27 pm
^^very nice^^

Shit show at Russian River?

Beer weekend wth friends, culminating in Double IPA Festival.  No need to go to Russian River as Younger is poured at the festival.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 09, 2015, 06:30:34 pm
nice list, venerable!

i'm planning a trip to san diego in june, hitting up Societe is high on the list.

in beer-douchebaggery-related news:

Red Bull opposing Va. craft brewery's use of 'ox' in name
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2015/02/09/3630807_red-bull-opposing-va-craft-brewerys.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 10, 2015, 08:14:09 am
more on the red bull/old ox dustup: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2015/02/09/red-bull-wants-to-rename-an-ashburn-brewery-because-an-ox-looks-like-a-bull/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on February 10, 2015, 10:33:57 am
Any of you gents or ladies ever go do business in Vermont?  I'm trying to get my hands on a case of Heady Topper beer.  If one here happens to frequent up there let me know so I can see if I can get some beer from there.
 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 10, 2015, 11:46:36 am
Quote from: wml7 on February 10, 2015, 10:33:57 am
Any of you gents or ladies ever go do business in Vermont?  I'm trying to get my hands on a case of Heady Topper beer.  If one here happens to frequent up there let me know so I can see if I can get some beer from there.
 ;D

sent you a PM.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 10, 2015, 01:18:24 pm
Quote from: wml7 on February 10, 2015, 10:33:57 am
Any of you gents or ladies ever go do business in Vermont?  I'm trying to get my hands on a case of Heady Topper beer.  If one here happens to frequent up there let me know so I can see if I can get some beer from there.
 ;D

you realize that you can't walk into any store and just pick up a case, right?  the stuff sells out the day that it's released, still to this day.  getting a case takes some planning...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on February 10, 2015, 02:37:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 10, 2015, 01:18:24 pm
Quote from: wml7 on February 10, 2015, 10:33:57 am
Any of you gents or ladies ever go do business in Vermont?  I'm trying to get my hands on a case of Heady Topper beer.  If one here happens to frequent up there let me know so I can see if I can get some beer from there.
 ;D

you realize that you can't walk into any store and just pick up a case, right?  the stuff sells out the day that it's released, still to this day.  getting a case takes some planning...

why of course I know this.  I just wanted to check if any of you guys actually did any business in VT.  I know they do different days of delivery while some get more then others.  A case may not be in the cards but a few cans here and there might work.  When are you going up there?
 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 10, 2015, 03:11:41 pm
I had to bribe someone to do it and they ended up chasing the HT   truck from store to store due to purchase limits.

20 cans cost me $100. Worth every penny.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 10, 2015, 03:52:26 pm
i'll be in VT in march, but i'll be in the wrong part of the state, i'm flying, and if i did drag back any HT it would be all for me ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2015, 01:02:27 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 10, 2015, 03:11:41 pm
I had to bribe someone to do it and they ended up chasing the HT   truck from store to store due to purchase limits.

20 cans cost me $100. Worth every penny.
seriously...can't be that good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2015, 01:06:15 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 11, 2015, 01:02:27 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 10, 2015, 03:11:41 pm
I had to bribe someone to do it and they ended up chasing the HT   truck from store to store due to purchase limits.

20 cans cost me $100. Worth every penny.
seriously...can't be that good

Two things...

If only James Ford were here to criticize this purchase by StoneTheCrow, this would lead to epic posts.

Secondly, it really is worth it. How is paying $5 a can for 16oz of one of the best beers in the world not worth it? You pay $8 a bottle for shchwill at say, the 930 club.

Actually.. three things. The going rate is basically $3 a can from the brewery, so it's not like he paid all that much  more. Don't knock it until you try it, brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2015, 01:10:01 pm
I assumed he meant $100 on top of the beer for the guy's time to drive around all day.

Stonethecrow seems like a cool dude, I don't think he'd take the hypothetical bait from James.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2015, 01:26:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 01:06:15 pm

Actually.. three things. The going rate is basically $3 a can from the brewery, so it's not like he paid all that much  more. Don't knock it until you try it, brah.
well that is true...so not that much of a mark up
still paid $40 extra
I have not tried and would pay $10 for one can as the hype is pretty HIGH on this one
I also agree that you would pay $8-11 for good beers in a club/restaurant, but you are somewhere...so that has to be factored in to the cost
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 11, 2015, 01:28:06 pm
$100 total. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

$40 covered the effort to track it down and bring it back from a state I've never visited myself.

Shame that James isn't around to ridicule me for paying even a penny above retail.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on February 11, 2015, 01:47:33 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 11, 2015, 01:28:06 pm
$100 total. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

$40 covered the effort to track it down and bring it back from a state I've never visited myself.

Shame that James isn't around to ridicule me for paying even a penny above retail.

Let me know if your friend wants to go on this task again so I can get in on the action
 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2015, 02:10:44 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 11, 2015, 01:28:06 pm
$100 total. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

$40 covered the effort to track it down and bring it back from a state I've never visited myself.

Shame that James isn't around to ridicule me for paying even a penny above retail.

I've traded/shipped it/checked it in a bag and it always comes to roughly a $100 for a case. I did learn that you can check two cases of Heady in a bag and it's under 50lbs!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 11, 2015, 02:32:56 pm
Quote from: wml7 on February 11, 2015, 01:47:33 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 11, 2015, 01:28:06 pm
Let me know if your friend wants to go on this task again so I can get in on the action
 ;D

I wish. Going somewhere else this summer, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 03:56:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 01:06:15 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 11, 2015, 01:02:27 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 10, 2015, 03:11:41 pm
I had to bribe someone to do it and they ended up chasing the HT   truck from store to store due to purchase limits.

20 cans cost me $100. Worth every penny.
seriously...can't be that good

Two things...

If only James Ford were here to criticize this purchase by StoneTheCrow, this would lead to epic posts.

Secondly, it really is worth it. How is paying $5 a can for 16oz of one of the best beers in the world not worth it? You pay $8 a bottle for shchwill at say, the 930 club.

Actually.. three things. The going rate is basically $3 a can from the brewery, so it's not like he paid all that much  more. Don't knock it until you try it, brah.

do you happen to have a refined palate that excels in tasting rarity and hype?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:00:29 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 03:56:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 01:06:15 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 11, 2015, 01:02:27 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 10, 2015, 03:11:41 pm
I had to bribe someone to do it and they ended up chasing the HT   truck from store to store due to purchase limits.

20 cans cost me $100. Worth every penny.
seriously...can't be that good

Two things...

If only James Ford were here to criticize this purchase by StoneTheCrow, this would lead to epic posts.

Secondly, it really is worth it. How is paying $5 a can for 16oz of one of the best beers in the world not worth it? You pay $8 a bottle for shchwill at say, the 930 club.

Actually.. three things. The going rate is basically $3 a can from the brewery, so it's not like he paid all that much  more. Don't knock it until you try it, brah.

do you happen to have a refined palate that excels in tasting rarity and hype?



I do not. Do you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2015, 04:03:31 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 03:56:01 pm
do you happen to have a refined palate that excels in tasting rarity and hype?
I'm sorry, was someone looking for me? I was in my walk-in humidor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 04:12:20 pm
sure seems like you do.

HT is an IPA.  IPAs are best fresh.  HT is canned and distributed fresh better than most IPAs, but it's just an IPA.  meaning there's a ton of hops in it.  that's it.  

there's dozens of beers just as good regularly on the shelves just as good as HT, so long as they are fresh.  HT seems to have a longer "fresh" taste, presumably because it's canned and suggested to drink out of can, giving you a better taste perception of those glorious hops. they use a house yeast strain that amplifies the hop profile, but so do so many other breweries.  

there's no denying its a great beer, but really, the fact that you guys make treks up to VT like it's some sort of beacon of hope, crafting a niche in brewing that requires the utmost appreciation, that $5 cans of IPA is "worth it", that  a beer could be the best in the world... c'mon.

on a related note, if anyone wants to send me $100 + shipping, i'll send them 20 cans of IPA in a heartbeat.  just let me know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:15:08 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:12:20 pm
sure seems like you do.

HT is an IPA.  IPAs are best fresh.  HT is canned and distributed fresh better than most IPAs, but it's just an IPA.  meaning there's a ton of hops in it.  that's it.  

there's dozens of beers just as good regularly on the shelves just as good as HT, so long as they are fresh.  HT seems to have a longer "fresh" taste, presumably because it's canned and suggested to drink out of can, giving you a better taste perception of those glorious hops. they use a house yeast strain that amplifies the hop profile, but so do so many other breweries.  

there's no denying its a great beer, but really, the fact that you guys make treks up to VT like it's some sort of beacon of hope, crafting a niche in brewing that requires the utmost appreciation, that $5 cans of IPA is "worth it", that  a beer could be the best in the world... c'mon.

on a related note, if anyone wants to send me $100 + shipping, i'll send them 20 cans of IPA in a heartbeat.  just let me know.

Thanks for the rather lengthy explanation that I'm well aware of and thanks for the assumptions you made about me that are completely incorrect.

Carry on, wizzle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2015, 04:16:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:15:08 pm
Carry on, wizzle.
Son, the man's name is Carlos Spicyweiner. If you want to argue with him about beer, that's all fine and good, but you will respect the moniker. I will not countenance otherwise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 04:17:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 01:06:15 pm
If only James Ford were here to criticize this purchase by StoneTheCrow, this would lead to epic posts.

speaking of JF, i accidentally ran into him on the BA forum. he was asking whether or not his child would be allowed into certain seattle beer establishments. seems like he's doing just fine post 930 days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2015, 04:17:40 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:17:00 pm
seems like he's doing just fine post 930 days.
Great to hear. Lets never let him back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 04:18:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:15:08 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:12:20 pm
sure seems like you do.

HT is an IPA.  IPAs are best fresh.  HT is canned and distributed fresh better than most IPAs, but it's just an IPA.  meaning there's a ton of hops in it.  that's it.  

there's dozens of beers just as good regularly on the shelves just as good as HT, so long as they are fresh.  HT seems to have a longer "fresh" taste, presumably because it's canned and suggested to drink out of can, giving you a better taste perception of those glorious hops. they use a house yeast strain that amplifies the hop profile, but so do so many other breweries.  

there's no denying its a great beer, but really, the fact that you guys make treks up to VT like it's some sort of beacon of hope, crafting a niche in brewing that requires the utmost appreciation, that $5 cans of IPA is "worth it", that  a beer could be the best in the world... c'mon.

on a related note, if anyone wants to send me $100 + shipping, i'll send them 20 cans of IPA in a heartbeat.  just let me know.

Thanks for the rather lengthy explanation that I'm well aware of and thanks for the assumptions you made about me that are completely incorrect.

Carry on, wizzle.

u mad bro
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:19:13 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:18:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:15:08 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:12:20 pm
sure seems like you do.

HT is an IPA.  IPAs are best fresh.  HT is canned and distributed fresh better than most IPAs, but it's just an IPA.  meaning there's a ton of hops in it.  that's it.  

there's dozens of beers just as good regularly on the shelves just as good as HT, so long as they are fresh.  HT seems to have a longer "fresh" taste, presumably because it's canned and suggested to drink out of can, giving you a better taste perception of those glorious hops. they use a house yeast strain that amplifies the hop profile, but so do so many other breweries.  

there's no denying its a great beer, but really, the fact that you guys make treks up to VT like it's some sort of beacon of hope, crafting a niche in brewing that requires the utmost appreciation, that $5 cans of IPA is "worth it", that  a beer could be the best in the world... c'mon.

on a related note, if anyone wants to send me $100 + shipping, i'll send them 20 cans of IPA in a heartbeat.  just let me know.

Thanks for the rather lengthy explanation that I'm well aware of and thanks for the assumptions you made about me that are completely incorrect.

Carry on, wizzle.

u mad bro

Not as mad as ewe... you're the one that seemed pretty mad about someone spending $100 on a case of Heady.

Link to JF's thread on BA (both for entertainment purposes and I'm taking a trip there in September and wouldn't mind the same advice).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 04:30:18 pm
just hit up the PNW board beforehand, there's always a running visiting seattle guide and it usually includes a list of age-restricted places. lucky for you, fremont and reubens is all-ages.  i'd show you around, but i'm not sure any of the places i frequent have the rare and hyped beer you normally seek out :P

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/toronado-seattle.177649/page-6

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 04:31:19 pm
oh shit, actually, when in september?

fresh hop fest usually happens the third or fourth week in september.  that shit will get you on board with what i'm talking about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:32:24 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:30:18 pm
just hit up the PNW board beforehand, there's always a running visiting seattle guide and it usually includes a list of age-restricted places. lucky for you, fremont and reubens is all-ages.  i'd show you around, but i'm not sure any of the places i frequent have the rare and hyped beer you normally seek out :P

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/toronado-seattle.177649/page-6



Wizzle, I know we've never had the pleasure of meeting, but I'd bet out of this little 930 club board clique of beer drinkers, I have the least snobbiest tendencies.

Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 04:33:04 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 11, 2015, 04:17:40 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:17:00 pm
seems like he's doing just fine post 930 days.
Great to hear. Lets never let him back.

what if we allowed him only to post in the beer forum and the thread atomic made for him about asking him financial advice?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:33:39 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:31:19 pm
oh shit, actually, when in september?

fresh hop fest usually happens the third or fourth week in september.  that shit will get you on board with what i'm talking about.

Either the front or back end of the weekend of the 26th. Hopefully will be out there for five days or so... at least.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 04:36:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:32:24 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:30:18 pm
just hit up the PNW board beforehand, there's always a running visiting seattle guide and it usually includes a list of age-restricted places. lucky for you, fremont and reubens is all-ages.  i'd show you around, but i'm not sure any of the places i frequent have the rare and hyped beer you normally seek out :P

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/toronado-seattle.177649/page-6



Wizzle, I know we've never had the pleasure of meeting, but I'd bet out of this little 930 club board clique of beer drinkers, I have the least snobbiest tendencies.

Thanks for the link.

i just die a little every time i see another HT circlejerk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2015, 04:42:32 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:33:04 pm
what if we allowed him only to post in the beer forum and the thread atomic made for him about asking him financial advice?
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on February 11, 2015, 04:44:02 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:17:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 01:06:15 pm
If only James Ford were here to criticize this purchase by StoneTheCrow, this would lead to epic posts.

speaking of JF, i accidentally ran into him on the BA forum. he was asking whether or not his child would be allowed into certain seattle beer establishments. seems like he's doing just fine post 930 days.

In 10 years of reading the BA forums, he is the only person I've ever put on ignore.

I decided to skip on hopslam this year. $27 and the month old bottling date were too much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 04:48:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 04:33:39 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:31:19 pm
oh shit, actually, when in september?

fresh hop fest usually happens the third or fourth week in september.  that shit will get you on board with what i'm talking about.

Either the front or back end of the weekend of the 26th. Hopefully will be out there for five days or so... at least.

you'll absolutely catch fresh hop season. i'll be around, and if the beer sucks, you can go back to DC and then anonymously bash me on the forum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 04:49:57 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on February 11, 2015, 04:44:02 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:17:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 01:06:15 pm
If only James Ford were here to criticize this purchase by StoneTheCrow, this would lead to epic posts.

speaking of JF, i accidentally ran into him on the BA forum. he was asking whether or not his child would be allowed into certain seattle beer establishments. seems like he's doing just fine post 930 days.

In 10 years of reading the BA forums, he is the only person I've ever put on ignore.

I decided to skip on hopslam this year. $27 and the month old bottling date were too much.

that beer has seemed to suffer this crazy backlash over the past two or three years.  any word on how nugget nectar is tasting this year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 11, 2015, 04:53:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 11, 2015, 04:42:32 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:33:04 pm
what if we allowed him only to post in the beer forum and the thread atomic made for him about asking him financial advice?
I just threw up a little in my mouth.

I threw up a little in my mouth when you started a thread soliciting forum member's opinion on the looks of one of the lone female forum members.

Creep.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2015, 05:05:53 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:49:57 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on February 11, 2015, 04:44:02 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:17:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 01:06:15 pm
If only James Ford were here to criticize this purchase by StoneTheCrow, this would lead to epic posts.

speaking of JF, i accidentally ran into him on the BA forum. he was asking whether or not his child would be allowed into certain seattle beer establishments. seems like he's doing just fine post 930 days.

In 10 years of reading the BA forums, he is the only person I've ever put on ignore.

I decided to skip on hopslam this year. $27 and the month old bottling date were too much.

that beer has seemed to suffer this crazy backlash over the past two or three years.  any word on how nugget nectar is tasting this year?

I've enjoyed the Nugget Nectar I've had. I have not and most likely will not pursue Hop Slam as there are many other tastier beers out there (it's just an IPA wizzle!!). I did have incredibly fresh Dirt Wolf and Hop Ranch in the past few weeks (all kegged within a few days) and both were delicious. I didn't love both of the beers when I drank them in the past.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2015, 05:24:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 11, 2015, 04:53:32 pm
I threw up a little in my mouth when you started a thread soliciting forum member's opinion on the looks of one of the lone female forum members.
I did no such thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 11, 2015, 06:31:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 05:05:53 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:49:57 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on February 11, 2015, 04:44:02 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:17:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 11, 2015, 01:06:15 pm
If only James Ford were here to criticize this purchase by StoneTheCrow, this would lead to epic posts.

speaking of JF, i accidentally ran into him on the BA forum. he was asking whether or not his child would be allowed into certain seattle beer establishments. seems like he's doing just fine post 930 days.

In 10 years of reading the BA forums, he is the only person I've ever put on ignore.

I decided to skip on hopslam this year. $27 and the month old bottling date were too much.

that beer has seemed to suffer this crazy backlash over the past two or three years.  any word on how nugget nectar is tasting this year?

I've enjoyed the Nugget Nectar I've had. I have not and most likely will not pursue Hop Slam as there are many other tastier beers out there (it's just an IPA wizzle!!). I did have incredibly fresh Dirt Wolf and Hop Ranch in the past few weeks (all kegged within a few days) and both were delicious. I didn't love both of the beers when I drank them in the past.

hop ranch is made with mosaic and azacca hops - i've never had it because, well, i imagine they don't travel across country well. i've brewed single-hopped IPAs with both azacca and mosaic, and preach the superiority of azacca. you can get a lot of great flavor out of that hop... not sure it has "the next citra" written all over, but it's up there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2015, 06:39:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 11, 2015, 04:53:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 11, 2015, 04:42:32 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 11, 2015, 04:33:04 pm
what if we allowed him only to post in the beer forum and the thread atomic made for him about asking him financial advice?
I just threw up a little in my mouth.

I threw up a little in my mouth when you started a thread soliciting forum member's opinion on the looks of one of the lone female forum members.

Creep.
So we all already knew this...but I guess this confirms SF=JF
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 12, 2015, 01:50:03 pm
I've always stood behind the Hopslam as a DIPA that stands out in what has developed as a very crowded field.  This year's batch came my way this week and I've had a couple so far.   I must say that the overwhelmingly fresh tropical fruit aroma that I've become accustomed to, is not there this year. Disappointing. It's still very good but, like other boardies have mentioned,  it's got a lot of competition these days (particularly the Alpha Domina Mellis by DC Brau).   Though it does have a very unique buzz which i have not experienced with other DIPAs in this ABV range.  Anyone else?

I found it for $55/case in PA so I don't feel that it was a waste, especially because i live in Maryland where a six of very delicious Sculpin cans cost me $18.99!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 13, 2015, 02:38:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 09, 2015, 01:19:47 pm
i'm not particularly excited for hopslam.  maybe i'll change my mind if reports are that this year's batch is amaze-balls, but barring that i doubt i'll buy any.  i'm not sure if the beer has gotten worse or if my tastes have change, but the last few years i've been underwhelmed.

an IIPA that i am really excited about is flying dog's single hop HBC-431.  it's a one-time release made with a new experimental hop that tastes amazing.  get it while you can.

I just grabbed a six pack of this, I'll report back with my findings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on February 14, 2015, 05:56:44 pm
i went through a 6-pack of hop hunter pretty quick this last week.  solid beer, not much different than celebration.  also picked up stone delicious IPA and grapefruit sculpin.  not a fan of either at all, delicious has too much lemon and a nasty aftertaste, and grapefruit sculpin tastes as advertised and the result just isn't something i'm looking for in a beer.  anyone know anything about stone's gluten free approach for delicious? i read something about it having to do with the yeast.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2015, 06:50:25 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on February 14, 2015, 05:56:44 pm
anyone know anything about stone's gluten free approach for delicious? i read something about it having to do with the yeast.

they use Clarity-Ferm (http://www.whitelabs.com/other-products/wln4000-clarity-ferm) from White Labs (source (http://beerpulse.com/2015/01/stones-gluten-reduced-delicious-ipa-now-available-coast-to-coast-3570/)).

i've been using it occasionally on pale beers to reduce chill haze.  the enzyme that it contains breaks down proteins responsible for haze.  among those proteins is gluten.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 15, 2015, 10:10:56 pm
Ok I like some NOFX and I like good craft beer
but I don't think I'm going to spend $8.50 for a 16 oz can of this stuff

(http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit,q_85,d_beer_def.gif/beer_236147.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2015, 11:54:25 am
Quote from: Yada on February 13, 2015, 02:38:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 09, 2015, 01:19:47 pm
i'm not particularly excited for hopslam.  maybe i'll change my mind if reports are that this year's batch is amaze-balls, but barring that i doubt i'll buy any.  i'm not sure if the beer has gotten worse or if my tastes have change, but the last few years i've been underwhelmed.

an IIPA that i am really excited about is flying dog's single hop HBC-431.  it's a one-time release made with a new experimental hop that tastes amazing.  get it while you can.

I just grabbed a six pack of this, I'll report back with my findings.

Found this offering quite mediocre. Definitely prefer "The Truth" over it in my very honest, non beer snobbery, opinion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2015, 12:16:36 pm
I'm really enjoying the Imperial IPA's lately (other than the cost)
I think the Truth is the best offering by flying dog, have searched for this HBC one, but can't seem to find a retailer that has it (haven't looked that hard)

picked up a four pack of this and have been savoring it
(http://www.beerguyla.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/IdiotLogo2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2015, 12:21:51 pm
just realized that DIPA and IIPA are the same thing
Imperial just sounds better
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on February 17, 2015, 12:32:18 pm
A friend gave me 4 heady toppers. Gonna re-gift some to Bagley.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2015, 01:08:04 pm
I need better friends
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 17, 2015, 01:57:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 17, 2015, 01:08:04 pm
I need better friends

you need to start buying your friends some drinks man...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 17, 2015, 02:08:07 pm
Quote from: challenged on February 17, 2015, 12:32:18 pm
A friend gave me 4 heady toppers. Gonna re-gift some to Bagley.


It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on February 17, 2015, 02:29:34 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 17, 2015, 02:08:07 pm
Quote from: challenged on February 17, 2015, 12:32:18 pm
A friend gave me 4 heady toppers. Gonna re-gift some to Bagley.


It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood

Indeed. I will leave them in the mailbox with all of the other stuff (kidding).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2015, 02:45:45 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 01:57:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 17, 2015, 01:08:04 pm
I need better friends

you need to start buying your friends some drinks man...
see with friends like these...who needs enemies
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 17, 2015, 02:58:25 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 17, 2015, 02:45:45 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 01:57:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 17, 2015, 01:08:04 pm
I need better friends

you need to start buying your friends some drinks man...
see with friends like these...who needs enemies

i'm sure our friendship can survive a bit of honesty...

generally speakin shows we've gone together, and it has been a noticeably long while, i've bought you two drinks you've bought me one

even shows i've gotten you a free ticket for...

i always get the first drink.. then you buy me one back.. then i buy the third.. sometimes then i buy myself a fourth.

 ;)

i don't really give a shit- although i do keep track- and i like to drink more, i think, but come on now.

i've decided you're kind of tightfisted at shows...the ticket dynamic regarding the Specials is what clinched it for me...lets remember i got you a free ticket and paid for mine... isn't that kind of weird?

another classic was the one where you tried to pawn off bryan "he who does not keep his word" on me regarding the breeders ticket: "I don't owe you, Bryan here does...good luck"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2015, 03:02:39 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 02:58:25 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 17, 2015, 02:45:45 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 01:57:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 17, 2015, 01:08:04 pm
I need better friends

you need to start buying your friends some drinks man...
see with friends like these...who needs enemies

i'm sure our friendship can survive a bit of honesty...

generally speakin shows we've gone together, and it has been a noticeably long while, i've bought you two drinks you've bought me one

even shows i've gotten you a free ticket for...

i always get the first drink.. then you buy me one back.. then i buy the third.. sometimes then i buy myself a fourth.

 ;)

i don't really give a shit- although i do keep track- and i like to drink more, i think, but come on now.

i've decided you're kind of tightfisted at shows...the ticket dynamic regarding the Specials is what clinched it for me...lets remember i got you a free ticket and paid for mine... isn't that kind of weird?

another classic was the one where you tried to pawn off bryan "he who does not keep his word" on me regarding the breeders ticket: "I don't owe you, Bryan here does...good luck"

You fellas should take this offline or log into the James Ford account.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 17, 2015, 03:04:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2015, 03:02:39 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 02:58:25 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 17, 2015, 02:45:45 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 01:57:18 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 17, 2015, 01:08:04 pm
I need better friends

you need to start buying your friends some drinks man...
see with friends like these...who needs enemies

i'm sure our friendship can survive a bit of honesty...

generally speakin shows we've gone together, and it has been a noticeably long while, i've bought you two drinks you've bought me one

even shows i've gotten you a free ticket for...

i always get the first drink.. then you buy me one back.. then i buy the third.. sometimes then i buy myself a fourth.

 ;)

i don't really give a shit- although i do keep track- and i like to drink more, i think, but come on now.

i've decided you're kind of tightfisted at shows...the ticket dynamic regarding the Specials is what clinched it for me...lets remember i got you a free ticket and paid for mine... isn't that kind of weird?

another classic was the one where you tried to pawn off bryan "he who does not keep his word" on me regarding the breeders ticket: "I don't owe you, Bryan here does...good luck"

You fellas should take this offline or log into the James Ford account.

what? this is the thanks we get for trying to liven up the board with some - you know- reality?


I have to admit there are Fordian overtones to this conversation..... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2015, 03:08:17 pm
I picture hutch in his cat in the hat hat acting like he's writing down a setlist but actually keeping track of the number of drinks sidehutch has purchased him throughout the evening.

pretty lulzy brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 17, 2015, 03:14:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2015, 03:08:17 pm
I picture hutch in his cat in hat hat acting like he's writing down a setlist but actually keeping track of the number of drinks sidehutch has purchased him throughout the evening.

pretty lulzy brah.

when it happens time after time you begin to notice......so when someone jokes about needing better friends you might chime in..

generally i'm a good guy about buying drinks.. i believe i offered to get you one but you said you didn't want one?


but i am not a good bar tipper... i mean i can be cold...it ain't automatic.. i've even been known to have a problem with a bartender here or there...

now if its the blonde bartender at the 930.... i hope she's still there...been a while since i seen her...there are no problems

at the end of the day i am incredibly self-aware.. of what i do and the people around me do.. most people i daresay walk through life in a relative haze.. i don't need to take notes..it just goes in my brain and i do keep scores... fortunately, sidehatch has been one of the best friends i've ever had so like i said I don't really give a shit....he's come through for me dozens of times in ways bigger than people would imagine...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on February 17, 2015, 03:26:56 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 03:14:55 pm
at the end of the day i am incredibly self-absorbed..

FTFY
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 17, 2015, 03:33:27 pm
Quote from: ggw on February 17, 2015, 03:26:56 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 03:14:55 pm
at the end of the day i am incredibly self-absorbed..

FTFY

your mileage may vary... opinions are like assholes..etc..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2015, 03:46:03 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 03:14:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2015, 03:08:17 pm
I picture hutch in his cat in hat hat acting like he's writing down a setlist but actually keeping track of the number of drinks sidehutch has purchased him throughout the evening.

pretty lulzy brah.

when it happens time after time you begin to notice......so when someone jokes about needing better friends you might chime in..

generally i'm a good guy about buying drinks.. i believe i offered to get you one but you said you didn't want one?


but i am not a good bar tipper... i mean i can be cold...it ain't automatic.. i've even been known to have a problem with a bartender here or there...

now if its the blonde bartender at the 930.... i hope she's still there...been a while since i seen her...there are no problems

at the end of the day i am incredibly self-aware.. of what i do and the people around me do.. most people i daresay walk through life in a relative haze.. i don't need to take notes..it just goes in my brain and i do keep scores... fortunately, sidehatch has been one of the best friends i've ever had so like i said I don't really give a shit....he's come through for me dozens of times in ways bigger than people would imagine...

I'm just giving you a hard time...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2015, 04:24:21 pm

Jez, way to turn the beer thread in to a...not sure what transpired
but you get the point


So I did want to address some of your accusations
Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 02:58:25 pm

even shows i've gotten you a free ticket for...
I'm fairly certain the ones you did, the first thing I did was offer you one when we got there.
Probably should have bought you 2 or three on a night like that

Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 02:58:25 pm
.the ticket dynamic regarding the Specials is what clinched it for me...lets remember i got you a free ticket and paid for mine..
I was not involved in that in the slightest and would have certainly paid for that
you didn't really explain what had happened, so I didn't know until after the show
 you told me you had a connection that would get you and me a free ticket.  The paying for one didn't even come up until the end of the night
I guess the proper thing to do would have been to paid you at that point...but I didn't and hence the public shaming

Quote from: hutch on February 17, 2015, 02:58:25 pm
i always get the first drink.. then you buy me one back.. then i buy the third.. sometimes then i buy myself a fourth.
so this has happened and typically I drive to shows now....so third and 4th beers are not an option
But I'll usually have the third beer you offered, problem is I'm not getting another beer
I guess in this scenario, I should just buy you one

now I know, and knowing is half the battle

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--R54QE2PdAk/VBgQNEnDVLI/AAAAAAAAVWk/IVBPdI-xV9c/s1600/TheBattle.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 18, 2015, 10:36:38 am
Quote from: Sidehatch   ~~ AKA unabashed Mats evangelist on February 17, 2015, 04:24:21 pm
and knowing is half the battle

but caring is all of the battle... and none of us do.

had any tasty beer recently? ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 20, 2015, 04:56:34 pm
deece little porchbomb.

(http://i.imgur.com/M13pGuMh.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on February 20, 2015, 04:59:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 20, 2015, 04:56:34 pm
deece little porchbomb.

(http://i.imgur.com/M13pGuMh.jpg)

aka "Breakfast"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 20, 2015, 05:02:35 pm
Ran out to Total Wine and More at lunch and found 6 packs of Bell's White Winter Ale for only $5.99 which is a pretty good price considering the beer is from Michigan and indiscernible from Oberon which is currently unavailable.

Picked up 5 for a get together this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 20, 2015, 05:14:57 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 20, 2015, 05:02:35 pm
Ran out to Total Wine and More at lunch and found 6 packs of Bell's White Winter Ale for only $5.99 which is a pretty good price considering the beer is from Michigan and discernible from Oberon which is currently unavailable.

Picked up 5 for a get together this weekend.

You didn't spring for a whole six pack?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 20, 2015, 05:15:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 20, 2015, 04:56:34 pm
deece little porchbomb.

legit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 20, 2015, 05:17:47 pm
picked up a 12 pack of PBR at Safeway!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 20, 2015, 05:27:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 20, 2015, 05:14:57 pm
Quote from: Julian, Community ORGANIZER on February 20, 2015, 05:02:35 pm
Ran out to Total Wine and More at lunch and found 6 packs of Bell's White Winter Ale for only $5.99 which is a pretty good price considering the beer is from Michigan and discernible from Oberon which is currently unavailable.

Picked up 5 for a get together this weekend.

You didn't spring for a whole six pack?
Sorry for the ambiguous language: I picked up 5 6-packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on February 22, 2015, 03:16:08 am
Quote from: Yada on February 20, 2015, 04:56:34 pm
deece little porchbomb.

(http://i.imgur.com/M13pGuMh.jpg)

Where did you pick up the New Glarus?  They don't distribute outside of Wisconsin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on February 22, 2015, 03:30:44 am
Tonight's 22oz:

Stone Enjoy By 3.14.15
Knee Deep Double IPA (collaboration with Kern River Brewing Co.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 23, 2015, 12:30:34 am
Quote from: Venerable Bede on February 22, 2015, 03:30:44 am
Tonight's 22oz:

Stone Enjoy By 3.14.15
Knee Deep Double IPA (collaboration with Kern River Brewing Co.)

And the verdicts are?...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 23, 2015, 09:25:54 am
If you can, get a 6 of the Zeke's Coffee Porter by Brewer's Art. One of the best beers I've had in a while! In stores now!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2015, 09:31:01 am
they now have these at the club
had one last night...didn't love it though

Kind of a heavy beer out of a can, should be in a tulip glass or something

(http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/files/2012/09/Brew_36.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2015, 09:33:21 am
Quote from: Venerable Bede on February 22, 2015, 03:16:08 am
Quote from: Yada on February 20, 2015, 04:56:34 pm
deece little porchbomb.


Where did you pick up the New Glarus?  They don't distribute outside of Wisconsin.

Beer trade. I was quite disappointed in my first Toppling Goliath beer, was hoping for much more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2015, 06:59:31 pm
NORTH AMERICAN TOUR 2015

MAY

22: Brewery Ommegang, Cooperstown, NY


La La Love You

PIXIES
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on February 23, 2015, 11:36:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 23, 2015, 12:30:34 am
Quote from: Venerable Bede on February 22, 2015, 03:30:44 am
Tonight's 22oz:

Stone Enjoy By 3.14.15
Knee Deep Double IPA (collaboration with Kern River Brewing Co.)

And the verdicts are?...

I enjoyed the Stone, but the Knee Deep was awesome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on February 23, 2015, 11:39:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 23, 2015, 09:33:21 am
Quote from: Venerable Bede on February 22, 2015, 03:16:08 am
Quote from: Yada on February 20, 2015, 04:56:34 pm
deece little porchbomb.


Where did you pick up the New Glarus?  They don't distribute outside of Wisconsin.

Beer trade. I was quite disappointed in my first Toppling Goliath beer, was hoping for much more.

Ok, I love New Glarus....they have a pretty good IIPA.....I try to bring back a sixer of spotted cow everytime I go to wisconsin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 24, 2015, 09:49:32 am
Quote from: Venerable Bede on February 23, 2015, 11:39:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 23, 2015, 09:33:21 am
Quote from: Venerable Bede on February 22, 2015, 03:16:08 am
Quote from: Yada on February 20, 2015, 04:56:34 pm
deece little porchbomb.


Where did you pick up the New Glarus?  They don't distribute outside of Wisconsin.

Beer trade. I was quite disappointed in my first Toppling Goliath beer, was hoping for much more.

Ok, I love New Glarus....they have a pretty good IIPA.....I try to bring back a sixer of spotted cow everytime I go to wisconsin.

I've only had a few different fruit beers of theirs and have enjoyed them all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 24, 2015, 08:26:24 pm
Yada, this Yuengling is for you buddy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 24, 2015, 11:39:07 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 24, 2015, 08:26:24 pm
Yada, this Yuengling is for you buddy!

From the VIP area with Seth, correct?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2015, 11:13:51 am
Only Heineken's and grey goose in the VIP section
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 03, 2015, 12:27:19 pm
So this new "Pour House" beer joint opened near my house in Gaithersburg, Md.  They say they have over 90 beers on tap.  Here's the list.


 https://www.beermenus.com/places/20010-old-town-pour-house-gaithersburg 


What's the deal with 13oz, 14 oz and 20oz pours?  (Stone IPA - $9/14 oz???)  Do they have their own special glasses?  WTF?  No pints?

I know Montgomery Co's an expensive place to drink but.........
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 03, 2015, 12:51:57 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on February 23, 2015, 06:59:31 pm
NORTH AMERICAN TOUR 2015

MAY

22: Brewery Ommegang, Cooperstown, NY


La La Love You

PIXIES


I love it there!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 03, 2015, 02:09:21 pm
(http://www.dead.net/sites/default/files/DFH_AmericanBeauty2014small.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2015, 03:27:53 pm
Quote from: Bagley on March 03, 2015, 12:27:19 pm
So this new "Pour House" beer joint opened near my house in Gaithersburg, Md.  They say they have over 90 beers on tap.  Here's the list.


 https://www.beermenus.com/places/20010-old-town-pour-house-gaithersburg 


What's the deal with 13oz, 14 oz and 20oz pours?  (Stone IPA - $9/14 oz???)  Do they have their own special glasses?  WTF?  No pints?

I know Montgomery Co's an expensive place to drink but.........

I feel like James Ford, but beer prices have become absolutely ludicrous at most places. Nearly a dollar an ounce for some of those beers, nutty!

In other news, a friend just made this haul back to DC so I'll be getting a little wacky this evening.

?Hill Farmstead growlers (5): Susan, Abner, Single Hop Citra, Single Hop Galaxy, Legitimacy (Grassroots)
?Fiddlehead IPA
?Lawson's Sip o' Sunshine
?Heady Topper
?14 Star Brewing: Tribute, Valor, Maple Breakfast Stout
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 03, 2015, 05:44:08 pm
i will definitely be checking out this new place in g'burg in the near future.

Quote from: Bagley on March 03, 2015, 12:27:19 pm
What's the deal with 13oz, 14 oz and 20oz pours?  (Stone IPA - $9/14 oz???)  Do they have their own special glasses?  WTF?  No pints?

a pint of intense & high alcohol beer isn't a wise thing to serve.  it's also expensive to make beers that big, or that are aged, or are made in small batches, etc.  so instead of selling you a $12 pint that no one would buy, they offer a 10 oz pour at $8.  and yes, many of those beer are served in style-specific glasses.

Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2015, 03:27:53 pm
Nearly a dollar an ounce for some of those beers, nutty!

yup, and some wine costs more than $20 a bottle!

if you're looking for value, can't go wrong with Left Hand Milk Stout Nitro: 20 oz for $8.

Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2015, 03:27:53 pm
In other news, a friend just made this haul back to DC so I'll be getting a little wacky this evening.

<insert jealousy>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2015, 06:21:15 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 03, 2015, 05:44:08 pm
i will definitely be checking out this new place in g'burg in the near future.

Quote from: Bagley on March 03, 2015, 12:27:19 pm
What's the deal with 13oz, 14 oz and 20oz pours?  (Stone IPA - $9/14 oz???)  Do they have their own special glasses?  WTF?  No pints?

a pint of intense & high alcohol beer isn't a wise thing to serve.  it's also expensive to make beers that big, or that are aged, or are made in small batches, etc.  so instead of selling you a $12 pint that no one would buy, they offer a 10 oz pour at $8.  and yes, many of those beer are served in style-specific glasses.

Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2015, 03:27:53 pm
Nearly a dollar an ounce for some of those beers, nutty!

yup, and some wine costs more than $20 a bottle!

if you're looking for value, can't go wrong with Left Hand Milk Stout Nitro: 20 oz for $8.

Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2015, 03:27:53 pm
In other news, a friend just made this haul back to DC so I'll be getting a little wacky this evening.

<insert jealousy>

Just in general though, those prices are pretty outrageous. I don't mind paying a bit more for a rare/excellent beer, but when a Stone IPA or Firestone is $9, that's wacky son!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 03, 2015, 06:56:48 pm
I paid $9 for a beer at Iota this weekend..can't remember the name



right now: Miller High Life.


Thanks Yada or the rec!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on March 03, 2015, 06:59:13 pm
Miller High Life and Kid Rock...

Do you drive a Camaro?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 03, 2015, 07:33:48 pm
I would say, Dodge Charger.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 03, 2015, 07:35:39 pm
I wish...

I drive a boring Toyota Prius (the bigger version)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 03, 2015, 07:38:22 pm
Kid rock, would call you, a queer, cuz he don't care.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 03, 2015, 07:42:14 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 03, 2015, 07:38:22 pm
Kid rock, would call you, a queer, cuz he don't care.

Oh I don't think so ... we'd start talking about old Seger or better yet Geils and we'd be partying hard...

I feel Kid Rock and I are kindred spirits..we both like to rock

I may change my name to Hutch Rock
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 03, 2015, 08:32:37 pm
#fuck,yes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 04, 2015, 01:09:33 pm
Quote from: Hutch Rock on March 03, 2015, 06:56:48 pm
I paid $9 for a beer at Iota this weekend..can't remember the name



right now: Miller High Life.


Thanks Yada or the rec!

Miller High Life is my family beer :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 06, 2015, 09:33:53 am
cool site.


http://www.craftbeer.com/beer-styles
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 06, 2015, 10:00:56 am
What 170-Year-Old Beer (http://gizmodo.com/what-a-170-year-old-beer-uncovered-in-a-shipwreck-reall-1689446524?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow) Uncovered From a Shipwreck Really Tasted Like
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--kAcFgT27--/t6hq4da6dqodg5lmoazk.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 10, 2015, 01:34:33 pm
SAVOR
June 5-6, 2015
7:30 pm ? 11:00 pm

National Building Museum
401 F St NW, Washington, DC 20001

Ticket Sale Dates:
Member Pre-Sale: March 24, 2015
Public On-sale: March 25, 2015

Prices:
$135 for Grand Tasting (one evening, Friday or Saturday)
$155 for Grand Tasting + Salon Package (one evening, Friday or Saturday, plus one Salon)

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on March 10, 2015, 01:53:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 10, 2015, 01:34:33 pm
SAVOR
June 5-6, 2015
7:30 pm ? 11:00 pm

National Building Museum
401 F St NW, Washington, DC 20001

Ticket Sale Dates:
Member Pre-Sale: March 24, 2015
Public On-sale: March 25, 2015

Prices:
$135 for Grand Tasting (one evening, Friday or Saturday)
$155 for Grand Tasting + Salon Package (one evening, Friday or Saturday, plus one Salon)

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/

I love Savor, this will be my 3rd. The salons should be announced soon, hopefully some good ones.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 10, 2015, 02:43:18 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on March 10, 2015, 01:53:21 pm
The salons should be announced soon

already are: http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/attendee-guide/salons/salon-schedule/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 10, 2015, 04:04:05 pm
Depending on the quality of the hairdresser, an additional $20 is a great deal for a salon session. I'm assuming their pretty skimp on hand massages or avacado facials at that price however, and they really get you by gouging you for $135 for beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on March 10, 2015, 04:42:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 10, 2015, 02:43:18 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on March 10, 2015, 01:53:21 pm
The salons should be announced soon

already are: http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/attendee-guide/salons/salon-schedule/

Those are from last year. The page says to stay tuned for 2015 details.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 12, 2015, 02:23:46 pm
Some wacky beer pairings in the WaPo Beer Madness bracket this year-  i.e. DC Brau Wings Vs. Stone Go To IPA.   Huh?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2015/03/10/beer-madness-2015-the-bracket-to-find-the-best-brews-in-america/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on March 13, 2015, 03:10:10 pm
https://twitter.com/BartenderRants/status/376168454606168064

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 13, 2015, 03:41:25 pm
Quote from: ggw on March 13, 2015, 03:10:10 pm
https://twitter.com/BartenderRants/status/376168454606168064


Ding Ding
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 13, 2015, 03:46:43 pm
Quote from: ggw on March 13, 2015, 03:10:10 pm
https://twitter.com/BartenderRants/status/376168454606168064
I've long said this about fantasy football team owners.

"My level 4 running back rolled a 12!"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2015, 10:07:44 pm
Quote from: ggw on March 13, 2015, 03:10:10 pm
https://twitter.com/BartenderRants/status/376168454606168064

^ said by a wine snob who can't handle the competition ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 14, 2015, 12:26:24 pm
new belgium le terroir 2014 is the finest beer i've had this year.  i could drink it all day.

that said, that's bound to change today as i have a 11am date with hardliver fest and then a bottle share at 3pm where i'm told "whales" will be present. 

if i don't make it out alive today, hutch can have my record collection and yada can have my beer cellar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 16, 2015, 08:58:13 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on March 14, 2015, 12:26:24 pm
new belgium le terroir 2014 is the finest beer i've had this year.  i could drink it all day.

that said, that's bound to change today as i have a 11am date with hardliver fest and then a bottle share at 3pm where i'm told "whales" will be present. 

if i don't make it out alive today, hutch can have my record collection and yada can have my beer cellar.

Are you still alive?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 16, 2015, 11:19:27 am
Quote from: Yada on March 16, 2015, 08:58:13 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on March 14, 2015, 12:26:24 pm
new belgium le terroir 2014 is the finest beer i've had this year.  i could drink it all day.

that said, that's bound to change today as i have a 11am date with hardliver fest and then a bottle share at 3pm where i'm told "whales" will be present. 

if i don't make it out alive today, hutch can have my record collection and yada can have my beer cellar.

Are you still alive?

i chose to live and skipped the bottleshare.  if i could do it over again, i probably would have skipped hard liver and only gone to the bottle share.  i ordered nine 3 oz barleywines by about 1230 along with lunch, and had about enough calories in a 1.5 hour period for the entire weekend. 

le terroir was still the best thing i drank all weekend.  sucaba, arctic devil, and angels share are all near perfect barleywines and it's hard to pick which is the best.  i focused on most of the local breweries: fremont, E9, old schoolhouse, anacortes, silver city, and reubens.  fremont's brew 1000 was probably the best of the bunch, followed by a weird "barleywine" by E9 that was barrel-aged and had some funk to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 16, 2015, 11:30:41 am
so I saw this beer from Harrisonburg, va the other day, and I was like what, gurl, my neck of the woods making them selves some beer, oh hell yeah and then some, and then I tried it and I was like, ok, I can like this, and be proud to say I like it, so there.

(http://blog.virginia.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SV13050902V_053.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 16, 2015, 07:23:22 pm
^love 3 Bros
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 18, 2015, 10:17:56 am
Pot-flavored beer?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/a-marijuana-protest-beer-for-st-patricks-day/2015/03/17/88c81044-cc98-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html?hpid=z4
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on March 18, 2015, 10:26:48 am
Two great tastes that taste great together?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on March 18, 2015, 10:28:40 am
Quote from: Shemp on March 18, 2015, 10:17:56 am
Pot-flavored beer?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/a-marijuana-protest-beer-for-st-patricks-day/2015/03/17/88c81044-cc98-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html?hpid=z4

I bought a growler of this from the brewery last weekend. It doesn't smell or taste like weed anymore than other IPA's do. It was solid, worth trying if you see it but I wouldn't seek it out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on March 18, 2015, 08:14:00 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on March 18, 2015, 10:28:40 am
Quote from: Shemp on March 18, 2015, 10:17:56 am
Pot-flavored beer?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/a-marijuana-protest-beer-for-st-patricks-day/2015/03/17/88c81044-cc98-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html?hpid=z4

I bought a growler of this from the brewery last weekend. It doesn't smell or taste like weed anymore than other IPA's do. It was solid, worth trying if you see it but I wouldn't seek it out.

"special" beer has interested me in the past, but it's really hard to dissolve much of any in the beer brewing process. however, we did add some concentrated THC liquid to grapefruit sculpin a few months ago and everyone pretty much everyone agreed it was the only enjoyable way to consume grapefruit sculpin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 19, 2015, 07:23:12 am
I love Carlos spicyweiner.  And I think, nugget nectar is overrated.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 19, 2015, 08:39:30 am
Quote from: walkonby on March 19, 2015, 07:23:12 am
I love Carlos' spicyweiner.  And I think, nugget nectar is overrated.
Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 25, 2015, 12:11:39 pm
Decided to attend Savor for the first time this year, tickets went on sale at noon today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 25, 2015, 04:37:17 pm
paging NoVa beer nerds:

what are the good bottle shops in northern VA?  someone is looking for sours... which stores might have some?

danke
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2015, 04:42:10 pm
Arrowine
Lee Heights Shops, 4508 Lee Hwy, Arlington, VA 22207

Lost Dog in N. Arlington

a few blocks from there is a place that carries probably 100 different bombers in stock
K-1 Daily Store
Address: 2516 Columbia Pike, Arlington, VA 22204

Arrowine definitely carries a lot of sours
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on March 26, 2015, 03:09:38 am
Total Wine always has sours. Chantilly location does anyway... I got the last bottle of "K is for Kriek" there. Twas tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2015, 08:49:36 am
Wall of Beer en Westover....muy cerca del Lost Dog (justo enfrente)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2015, 09:17:59 am
Yes, Westover market has an excellent selection of hard to find beers
5863 Washington Blvd, Arlington, VA 22205
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on March 26, 2015, 09:35:18 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on March 26, 2015, 09:17:59 am
Yes, Westover market has an excellent selection of hard to find beers
5863 Washington Blvd, Arlington, VA 22205

Selection is great, but prices are steep and the beer has often been on the shelf quite some time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2015, 10:15:06 am
Quote from: ggw on March 26, 2015, 09:35:18 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on March 26, 2015, 09:17:59 am
Yes, Westover market has an excellent selection of hard to find beers
5863 Washington Blvd, Arlington, VA 22205

Selection is great, but prices are steep and the beer has often been on the shelf quite some time.

verdad
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 01, 2015, 11:33:15 am
The Boulevard Tank 7 won the 2015 WaPo Beer Madness competition. Never tried.   Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 01, 2015, 12:14:06 pm
Is Milwaukee's Best really the best beer from Milwaukee?

Shockingly cheap ...$5 a 12 pack...

I don't know that I like it much though...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 01, 2015, 12:19:03 pm
I'm talking about Milwaukee's Best Premium just to be clear
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 01, 2015, 12:37:59 pm
Quote from: Bagley on April 01, 2015, 11:33:15 am
The Boulevard Tank 7 won the 2015 WaPo Beer Madness competition. Never tried.   Thoughts?

it's a above average saison, nothing really unique about it but it's a nice beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 01, 2015, 12:38:48 pm
acquiring a bottle of yellow rose IPA next week.  anyone tried it? the texas IPA fanboys have basically made this thing out to be the headytopper of texas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 01, 2015, 01:13:36 pm
Love you, carlos
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2015, 01:18:26 pm
Quote from: Bagley on April 01, 2015, 11:33:15 am
The Boulevard Tank 7 won the 2015 WaPo Beer Madness competition. Never tried.   Thoughts?
I love Tank 7....one of my favorites
a 4 pack will put you back like $12 tho

Jack Rose had this mixed drink with Tank 7 and whiskey
It was delicious
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2015, 05:20:55 pm
for walkies: guess what Founders is releasing!!!!

Quote
foundersbrewing
6 hours ago
Announcing our newest packaging innovation: The Bastard in a Box! It's the equivalent of 28 bottles of Dirty Bastard. And it comes in a box. #bastardinabox #dirtybastard
(https://igcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/11084873_957809600920413_168392251_n.jpg) 

;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2015, 05:33:10 pm
Quote from: Bagley on April 01, 2015, 11:33:15 am
The Boulevard Tank 7 won the 2015 WaPo Beer Madness competition. Never tried.   Thoughts?

it's a very good saison, one of the first that got me into the style.  one of the reasons it won is because of how widely available it has become... people will vote for what they know.

Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on April 01, 2015, 12:38:48 pm
acquiring a bottle of yellow rose IPA next week.  anyone tried it? the texas IPA fanboys have basically made this thing out to be the headytopper of texas.

never tried it, but it's single-hopped with mosaic AKA must be good ;D

Quote from: Sidehatch on April 01, 2015, 01:18:26 pm
I love Tank 7....one of my favorites
a 4 pack will put you back like $12 tho

meh, i must spend too much on beer.  $12 for 4 bottles of quality 9% beer doesn't seem that noteworthy to me.  it's $11 at Total Wine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 01, 2015, 05:56:09 pm
Love you more, sweetcell
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on April 06, 2015, 08:22:59 am
Ugh how did I miss this??
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/food_department/Five-Philly-bars-to-get-a-special-Heady-Topper-delivery-Wednesday.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2015, 09:07:59 am
Quote from: wml7 on April 06, 2015, 08:22:59 am
Ugh how did I miss this??
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/food_department/Five-Philly-bars-to-get-a-special-Heady-Topper-delivery-Wednesday.html

were you going to drive up to Philly for a beer or two?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on April 06, 2015, 10:52:51 am
Quote from: Yada on April 06, 2015, 09:07:59 am
Quote from: wml7 on April 06, 2015, 08:22:59 am
Ugh how did I miss this??
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/food_department/Five-Philly-bars-to-get-a-special-Heady-Topper-delivery-Wednesday.html

were you going to drive up to Philly for a beer or two?

perhaps, haha.  I'm just trying to get some for friends
 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 06, 2015, 10:54:24 am
that beer, makes me feel, like sticking my finger down my throat
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2015, 09:09:58 pm
wasn't sure if this should go in the Vinyl thread or here?

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/broadtime_thumbnails/878/418456363878/418456363878%3A300.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 07, 2015, 09:11:25 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 06, 2015, 10:54:24 am
that beer, makes me feel, like sticking my finger down my throat
That's a great way to lose a few pounds, to be fair.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2015, 12:14:45 pm
Quote from: walkonby on March 16, 2015, 11:30:41 am
so I saw this beer from Harrisonburg, va the other day, and I was like what, gurl, my neck of the woods making them selves some beer, oh hell yeah and then some, and then I tried it and I was like, ok, I can like this, and be proud to say I like it, so there.

(http://blog.virginia.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SV13050902V_053.jpg)

Forced by Two Brothers Brewing to change their name.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/three-brothers-changes-name-to-brothers-craft-brewing.277665/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2015, 11:24:39 am
(http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/2015/04/d5bc7a121811dc46c095705e9932ee86/1104575032.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 09, 2015, 01:54:58 pm
so I went to a beer store, and I bought some beer.

1.  omme,gang   rare vos
2.  trap,pistes  rochefort 8
3.  fire,stone   double jack
4.  green flash   soul style ipa  (beer guy raved about it . . . tasted it, ok.)
5.  Deschutes   fresh squeezed ipa (in LOVE with this one)
6.  green flash  palate wrecker

7.  the last 4 packs of founders double,trouble in all the shenandoah valley
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 09, 2015, 02:02:39 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 09, 2015, 01:54:58 pm
so I went to a beer store, and I bought some beer.

1.  omme,gang   rare vos
2.  trap,pistes  rochefort 8
3.  fire,stone   double jack
4.  green flash   soul style ipa  (beer guy raved about it . . . tasted it, ok.)
5.  Deschutes   fresh squeezed ipa (in LOVE with this one)
6.  green flash  palate wrecker

7.  the last 4 packs of founders double,trouble in all the shenandoah valley

No doubt #7 will be flatter than Keira Knightley.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 09, 2015, 02:05:17 pm
yes . . . there is a noticeable alteration of flavor, but it is still good. not flat, and I only bought 2 four packs.  its not like someone is still trying to sell harvest ale.

you are, my favourite poster, who currently posts, and always will be.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 09, 2015, 02:05:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 01, 2015, 05:33:10 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on April 01, 2015, 12:38:48 pm
acquiring a bottle of yellow rose IPA next week.  anyone tried it? the texas IPA fanboys have basically made this thing out to be the headytopper of texas.

never tried it, but it's single-hopped with mosaic AKA must be good ;D

it's a solid IPA and great use of mosaic.  wouldn't go out of my way for it again.

i'd rate it 0.4 headytopper equivalents.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on April 09, 2015, 02:09:32 pm
Quote from: walkonby on April 09, 2015, 02:05:17 pm
you are, my favourite poster, who currently posts, and always will be.

You, know that's james, ford, yes?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 09, 2015, 02:13:46 pm
of course, I do.  I liked james as james ford . . . but I love james, as space freely.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 09, 2015, 02:16:15 pm
I like my James Ford like I like my coffee: silent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2015, 02:22:21 pm
yes, but apparently Space Freely has learned to hold back
and that's a good thing
must be all the meditation he learned from Sam Harris
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 09, 2015, 02:25:07 pm
you should try astral projection meditation.  let me tell you . . . frightening and fascinating all at the same time.  you can find beginner lessons on how to do it on spotify.  trust me.  you have to try it.  you will feel as if your heart, has been touched, by Christ. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on April 09, 2015, 02:54:44 pm
TM. 

If it's good enough for David Lynch (http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/), Gisele Bundchen (http://tmhome.com/experiences/gisele-bundchen-practices-meditation-tm/), Josh Homme (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/josh-homme-really-thankful-for-near-death-experience-20131011), Buckminster Fuller (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating), and a boatload of billionaire hedge fund managers (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating), then it's good enough for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 09, 2015, 03:02:22 pm
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/04/blind-tasting-116-of-the-best-american-ipas-we-hav.html?p=3
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 09, 2015, 03:06:18 pm
http://workouttrends.com/transcendental-vs-mindfulness-meditation

I still suggest a.p. meditation.  it really puts you in touch with the world of the supernatural in a way that will either turn you into a higher state of energy, or it will fry your brain and you will wander the earth insane from what you have witnessed.  there is a power out there in space that will approach you during the process.  you will then, become one with the things we make movies about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 09, 2015, 03:07:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 09, 2015, 03:02:22 pm
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/04/blind-tasting-116-of-the-best-american-ipas-we-hav.html?p=3

oh yeah . . . this is the beer thread.  sor,ry
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 09, 2015, 03:16:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 09, 2015, 03:02:22 pm
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/04/blind-tasting-116-of-the-best-american-ipas-we-hav.html?p=3

this is the best list of IPA rankings i've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 09, 2015, 03:22:01 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on April 09, 2015, 03:16:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 09, 2015, 03:02:22 pm
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/04/blind-tasting-116-of-the-best-american-ipas-we-hav.html?p=3

this is the best list of IPA rankings i've ever seen.

Pretty good... a few notable beers missing and a few odd rankings, but not too shabby.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 09, 2015, 05:21:43 pm
in case folks are looking for some recommendations:

FW Pivo Pils: the IPA drinker's pilsner.  it's from CA so of course it's hoppy.  i could see myself easily crushing a 6-pack of this on a hot summer afternoon.

FW Pale 31: should be regarded as the gold standard of american pale ales.

Heavy Seas Double Cannon: i'm a fan of Loose Cannon so i had high hopes for this, unfortunately they were not met.  this might not have been the freshest bottle (best before was Aug 20, assuming 6 month that means it was bottled in late Feb).  i'll consider giving it another chance if i come across a fresher bottle, but even at a month and a half old i would expect more hop character in a DIPA.

FW has recently expanded its distribution to the DC area so expect to see more Pivo, Pale 31 and the like on shelves.

Quote from: Yada on April 09, 2015, 03:02:22 pm
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/04/blind-tasting-116-of-the-best-american-ipas-we-hav.html?p=3

can't hate too much on that list. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 09, 2015, 06:07:25 pm
that list does a couple of things really well:
-highlights the fact that good-to-great IPAs are abundant
-ranks a wonderful and popular IPA very low, showing that the system of ranking IPAs is inherently flawed
-has an unbiased approach to geographical beer regions
-has 116 IPAs ranked... an absurd amount.

i showed up to the alpha king challenge in 2011 at GABF and drank about 50 or so of the 100 IPAs in the challenge.  after about 10, they all start to taste the same, so i'm impressed with their rules.

i went and bought some breakside flagship IPA at lunch because of the list.  also, i have a bresnner package coming with jai alai within the next week so i'm excited to finally try that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 09, 2015, 11:35:03 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on April 09, 2015, 06:07:25 pm
that list does a couple of things really well:
(...)
-ranks a wonderful and popular IPA very low, showing that the system of ranking IPAs is inherently flawed

one list completely invalidates rankings based on thousands of votes? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 10, 2015, 12:50:51 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 09, 2015, 11:35:03 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on April 09, 2015, 06:07:25 pm
that list does a couple of things really well:
(...)
-ranks a wonderful and popular IPA very low, showing that the system of ranking IPAs is inherently flawed

one list completely invalidates rankings based on thousands of votes? 

i can see how you read it like that, but i'm saying the opposite. thousands of data points (i.e., untappd ratings, BA reviews) trumps some list that rates a beer style that is so heavily dependent on one crop and fades in flavor/aroma in an insane time frame.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 21, 2015, 12:30:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)

I hope to try that one. Westbrook Gose is the best American gose I've had so far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2015, 12:40:10 pm
Going to Charleston in June and now plan to check out WestBrook's brewery as I love a good gose
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2015, 12:57:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 21, 2015, 12:30:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)

I hope to try that one. Westbrook Gose is the best American gose I've had so far.

I unfortunately assumed these would be an easy find at any six pack shop but I've hopped into three and none of them had it in stock. I was drinking it on tap last night though and it was great.

Edit: Just found three four packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2015, 01:45:19 pm
i've been meaning to try the kirsch gose.  sounds pretty tasty.

i've got a ton of homebrew that is just coming online so it's tough to justify buying anything at the moment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2015, 01:56:29 pm
So I'm 7 batches in on the homebrewing of 1 gallon batches
By far my favorite was the Chocolate Maple Porter (http://brooklynbrewshop.com/directions/Brooklyn_Brew_Shop_Chocolate_Maple_Porter_Instructions.pdf) (OG 1.070 FG  1.025)

close second was the Warrior DIPA (OG 1.065 FG 1.000)

Just bottled a black barrel ale and added one of these to the fermenter
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71BFU5%2BkIXL._SL1024_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on April 21, 2015, 04:04:38 pm
Galaxy Hut had that Kirsch Gose on tap last night. I enjoyed two goblets of it. Very nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 21, 2015, 04:48:33 pm
Picked up the Blood Orange Gose from Anderson Valley the other day.  Good stuff.  Was just down in SC recently - had the Westbrook IPA, but not the gose.  Besides that and the Kirsch what else should a gose novice be checking out?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2015, 04:55:12 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on April 21, 2015, 01:56:29 pm
So I'm 7 batches in on the homebrewing of 1 gallon batches

fun hobby, innit? ;D

Quote from: Sidehatch on April 21, 2015, 01:56:29 pm
close second was the Warrior DIPA (OG 1.065 FG 1.000)

jeebus, nice attenuation... although i might have asked for a bit more body.  how was the hoppiness?  warrior makes for a great bittering hop, but everything i've read says that it's a sub-par flavor/aroma hop.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2015, 05:25:24 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 21, 2015, 04:55:12 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on April 21, 2015, 01:56:29 pm
So I'm 7 batches in on the homebrewing of 1 gallon batches

fun hobby, innit? ;D

Quote from: Sidehatch on April 21, 2015, 01:56:29 pm
close second was the Warrior DIPA (OG 1.065 FG 1.000)

jeebus, nice attenuation... although i might have asked for a bit more body.  how was the hoppiness?  warrior makes for a great bittering hop, but everything i've read says that it's a sub-par flavor/aroma hop.
I really liked the flavor of the finished product, I'm a little bias as I made it with my own bare hands
some of the other batches the body/bubbles have been way off and I've been using carbonation drops now and think that has helped

and it is fun, although little time consuming. 
Now that the weather is nice...those sunday mornings are usually dedicated to long bike rides

I think in the next few months I may go up to brewing 3 gallon batches.
I'm interested in using the spent grains to make some food next
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 21, 2015, 08:30:24 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on April 21, 2015, 04:48:33 pm
Picked up the Blood Orange Gose from Anderson Valley the other day.  Good stuff.  Was just down in SC recently - had the Westbrook IPA, but not the gose.  Besides that and the Kirsch what else should a gose novice be checking out?

I think Westbrook only cans theirs from April or May-October or something like that. Probably why you missed it.

Anderson Valley also cans THe Kimmie, Yink and Holy Gose for the six months that it's not doing the Blood Orange.

Destihl cans a really good one (almost as good as Westbrook but not quite), but I don't think they ship here yet.

Off Color Troublesome is ok and can sometimes be found in VA and DC, but tastes more like a hefeweizen. Not very tart at all.

Union Craft just announced they're going to start canning theirs in May, but imo it's not in the same league as the others that have been mentioned.

One of the best I've had is Ritterguts, from Gemany. Though maybe I loved it because i had an overpriced serving on draft at Churchkey.

Rapp and Cigar City also make very good ones that are draft only if you're ever in the Tampa area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 21, 2015, 10:08:22 pm
what, did you go to beer college, or something?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 22, 2015, 09:22:57 am
had grapefruit sculpin for the first time.

(http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hated-it.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 22, 2015, 09:24:42 am
Quote from: walkonby on April 22, 2015, 09:22:57 am
had grapefruit sculpin for the first time.

(http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hated-it.jpg)

yeah, that's a terrible beer, gurl.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 22, 2015, 09:29:28 am
ooh, touch your skin honey . . . you got, new page.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 22, 2015, 11:18:18 am
Quote from: walkonby on April 22, 2015, 09:22:57 am
had grapefruit sculpin for the first time.

(http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hated-it.jpg)

preach brotha
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2015, 12:13:24 pm
Grapefruit Sculpin is the Weird Al of beers. Count me in the "hated it" category. Or at least I hated it as an IPA. If I drink it and think of it as a novelty beer, it's at least on the same level as Stiegl Grapefruit Radler.

The fact that the previouslly mentioned PASTE best IPA list had it at #3 (and completely omitted anything from Alpine) completely invalidates that list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2015, 01:48:48 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on April 21, 2015, 04:48:33 pm
Besides that and the Kirsch what else should a gose novice be checking out?

Smoke and Barrel currently have Bayerischer Bahnhof Leipziger Gose on tap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 22, 2015, 02:00:03 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2015, 12:13:24 pm
Grapefruit Sculpin is the Weird Al of beers. Count me in the "hated it" category. Or at least I hated it as an IPA. If I drink it and think of it as a novelty beer, it's at least on the same level as Stiegl Grapefruit Radler.

The fact that the previouslly mentioned PASTE best IPA list had it at #3 (and completely omitted anything from Alpine) completely invalidates that list.

i think them including it as an IPA is silly. that and stone delicious stand out because they have a crazy amount of citrus.  they were probably rated high because they stuck out so much.

i had a nelson at brouwers over the weekend and it was pretty forgettable. i'd like to try that full nelson beer from la cumbre (and project dank, while we're at it).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 22, 2015, 02:03:20 pm
also... consider me in the camp of "green flash needs to dial in these alpine recipes a little bit better". 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:00:30 am
I had Pliny the Elder on draft last night at perhaps the only bar east of Colorado with it on draft.

That said, it was unfortunately only the third or fourth best IPA I had all weekend, exceeded by two of the three IPA's I tried at Tired Hands, and perhaps even equalled by Victory Dirtwolf.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2015, 09:19:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:00:30 am
I had Pliny the Elder on draft last night at perhaps the only bar east of Colorado with it on draft.

That said, it was unfortunately only the third or fourth best IPA I had all weekend, exceeded by two of the three IPA's I tried at Tired Hands, and perhaps even equalled by Victory Dirtwolf.

I'd say that's actually a good thing, nothing unfortunate about that!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:35:13 am
Quote from: Yada on May 04, 2015, 09:19:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:00:30 am
I had Pliny the Elder on draft last night at perhaps the only bar east of Colorado with it on draft.

That said, it was unfortunately only the third or fourth best IPA I had all weekend, exceeded by two of the three IPA's I tried at Tired Hands, and perhaps even equalled by Victory Dirtwolf.

I'd say that's actually a good thing, nothing unfortunate about that!

I stand corrected. PTE IS still a very good IPA. So yes it was a very good beer weekend in Philly for me.

I've never understood how it rates so, so high. For me, there are other IPA's out there that are better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2015, 09:44:15 am
Hop Ranch and Dirt Wolf are delicious when fresh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 04, 2015, 10:51:15 am
when space and yada, speak beer . . . I listen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2015, 10:58:34 am
Quote from: walkonby on May 04, 2015, 10:51:15 am
when space and yada, speak beer . . . I listen.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/ThePlatinumStag/music_1.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 04, 2015, 11:03:11 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:35:13 am
Quote from: Yada on May 04, 2015, 09:19:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:00:30 am
I had Pliny the Elder on draft last night at perhaps the only bar east of Colorado with it on draft.

That said, it was unfortunately only the third or fourth best IPA I had all weekend, exceeded by two of the three IPA's I tried at Tired Hands, and perhaps even equalled by Victory Dirtwolf.

I'd say that's actually a good thing, nothing unfortunate about that!
I stand corrected. PTE IS still a very good IPA. So yes it was a very good beer weekend in Philly for me.

I've never understood how it rates so, so high. For me, there are other IPA's out there that are better.

Quote from: Yada on May 04, 2015, 09:44:15 am
Hop Ranch and Dirt Wolf are delicious when fresh.

it's almost like we are approaching a breakthrough on this board with what i've been saying all along... rating IPAs is stupid and whatever is the freshest is the best.

i had a bissell brother's the substance last week.  if i had access to that beer, i don't think i would ever not have it in my fridge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 04, 2015, 02:00:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/an-early-contender-for-beer-of-the-year-1701515512/+robharvilla
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2015, 02:52:35 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on May 04, 2015, 02:00:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/an-early-contender-for-beer-of-the-year-1701515512/+robharvilla

I drank two yesterday!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 03:12:16 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on May 04, 2015, 02:00:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/an-early-contender-for-beer-of-the-year-1701515512/+robharvilla

It's without a doubt a tasty beer, but beer of the year? The guy who wrote that probably doesn't get out much. It's not even the best gose produced in PA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 04, 2015, 03:17:38 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 04, 2015, 11:03:11 am
it's almost like we are approaching a breakthrough on this board with what i've been saying all along... rating IPAs is stupid and whatever is the freshest is the best.

well, it's a virtuous circle: the higher rated an IPA, the more people seek it out, the quicker it sells out... so when you do find it, it's always fresh.  it may not explain why the Pliney and the Headies of the world first got rated highly, but it explains why they stay there.

Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:00:30 am
That said, it was unfortunately only the third or fourth best IPA I had all weekend, exceeded by two of the three IPA's I tried at Tired Hands, and perhaps even equalled by Victory Dirtwolf.

so you're saying that in PA, you had better IPAs made in-state vs. something that was trucked in from California?

Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:35:13 am
I've never understood how it rates so, so high. For me, there are other IPA's out there that are better.

maybe because so many of the reviewers are in California?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2015, 03:29:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 03:12:16 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on May 04, 2015, 02:00:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/an-early-contender-for-beer-of-the-year-1701515512/+robharvilla

It's without a doubt a tasty beer, but beer of the year? The guy who wrote that probably doesn't get out much. It's not even the best gose produced in PA.

Best gose in Pa is?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 03:39:32 pm
I can't say that I've had all the goses that are made in PA, but the best I've had was the one I had at Earth, Bread+Brewery in Philly yesterday.

The Kirsch Gose is a little sweeter than I want it to be.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 04, 2015, 04:51:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 04, 2015, 03:17:38 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 04, 2015, 11:03:11 am
it's almost like we are approaching a breakthrough on this board with what i've been saying all along... rating IPAs is stupid and whatever is the freshest is the best.

well, it's a virtuous circle: the higher rated an IPA, the more people seek it out, the quicker it sells out... so when you do find it, it's always fresh.  it may not explain why the Pliney and the Headies of the world first got rated highly, but it explains why they stay there.

Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:00:30 am
That said, it was unfortunately only the third or fourth best IPA I had all weekend, exceeded by two of the three IPA's I tried at Tired Hands, and perhaps even equalled by Victory Dirtwolf.

so you're saying that in PA, you had better IPAs made in-state vs. something that was trucked in from California?

Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 09:35:13 am
I've never understood how it rates so, so high. For me, there are other IPA's out there that are better.

maybe because so many of the reviewers are in California?

i like the way you think.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on May 04, 2015, 05:09:17 pm
In Ohio/WV for work and noticed Lagunitas Sucks sixers on the shelves! We have to be getting these soon, right?! I love that beer with a passion.

Also, Columbus is an AMAZING beer city. Bodhi by CBC is a Top 5 beer for me, plus I got it on draft for $5! And that was right after a glass of Alpha King.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 05, 2015, 08:12:24 am
So let me get this straight. Let's say a Philly bar has Pliny the Elder (100 on BA) on draft. They also have (imo) one of the best IPA's from the PNW, Laurelwood Workhorse IPA (93) on draft. Both rarely if ever seen east of the Mississippi, outside of Philly.

You mean to tell me you're going to choose a local IPA by Sly Fox (83) or Yards (85) because the truck has the shortest drive?  ???
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 05, 2015, 11:15:03 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 05, 2015, 08:12:24 am
So let me get this straight. Let's say a Philly bar has Pliny the Elder (100 on BA) on draft. They also have (imo) one of the best IPA's from the PNW, Laurelwood Workhorse IPA (93) on draft. Both rarely if ever seen east of the Mississippi, outside of Philly.

You mean to tell me you're going to choose a local IPA by Sly Fox (83) or Yards (85) because the truck has the shortest drive?  ???

no but i'd happily pass on workhorse and PtE for victory or troegs or weyerbacher or tired hands or pizza boy or hell, even founders, dc brau, dogfish head, flying dog....

and beeradvocate ratings are stupid.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 05, 2015, 11:24:17 am
also workhorse is excellent
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 11, 2015, 08:21:45 am
Quote from: Yada on May 04, 2015, 03:29:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 04, 2015, 03:12:16 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on May 04, 2015, 02:00:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/an-early-contender-for-beer-of-the-year-1701515512/+robharvilla

It's without a doubt a tasty beer, but beer of the year? The guy who wrote that probably doesn't get out much. It's not even the best gose produced in PA.

Best gose in Pa is?


I'm still going to say that the Earth, Bread+Brewery gose was the best PA gose I've had. But I'll add that we split one of these yesterday as a Mother's Day treat, and yes, this is a damn tasty beer and I wish that I'd bought more than five of them, as it seems to be sold out everywhere and presumably not coming back until next Spring, if at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:01:29 am
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 11, 2015, 09:10:12 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:01:29 am
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.


Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:13:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 11, 2015, 09:10:12 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:01:29 am
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.


Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 11, 2015, 09:19:46 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:13:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 11, 2015, 09:10:12 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:01:29 am
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.


Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!

Wow, I can remember getting it for $8.99 or $9.99 back in the day. Guess Tony has to pay for the new Chicago brewery somehow, since he didn't take government money like Stone did.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 14, 2015, 09:50:30 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:13:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 11, 2015, 09:10:12 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:01:29 am
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.


Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!

Now available for $9.99 in VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2015, 10:13:04 am
^that's the price I've seen suck for in VA, sometimes $10.99
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 14, 2015, 10:37:05 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 14, 2015, 09:50:30 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:13:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 11, 2015, 09:10:12 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:01:29 am
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.


Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!

Now available for $9.99 in VA.

Space droppin' the thrifty knowledge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 14, 2015, 11:14:39 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 11, 2015, 09:19:46 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:13:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 11, 2015, 09:10:12 am
Quote from: Yada on May 11, 2015, 09:01:29 am
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.


Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!

Wow, I can remember getting it for $8.99 or $9.99 back in the day. Guess Tony has to pay for the new Chicago brewery somehow, since he didn't take government money like Stone did.

it's more like these DC and MD shops need to pay their rent and know this shit is gonna fly off the shelves.

lagunitas continues to give zero fucks about making money, apparently, with their couch trippin' tours and low prices.  at the very least, they have a very different idea than most how they are going to make their money.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 14, 2015, 02:44:55 pm
Has anybody had the Avery Raspberry Sour, and if so is it worth $18 a bottle? As in $2 more than a bottle of La Folie...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2015, 04:27:15 pm
funny you should ask, i just picked up a bottle of Raspberry Sour for $15.99 here in DC.  i'll probably try it this weekend.  only one bottle left, i was tempted to grab both but couldn't justify it for the price.  BA reviews are very positive but people are stopping short of calling it amazing.  t'was good enough to get me to try it.  sounds like folks out west are paying $10, lots of comments along the lines of "hands-down best value in sours today."

also picked up a 4-pack of Kirsche Gose and a single of Weyeerbacher's Tarte Nouveau.  an all-sour beer run!

also, i've got 4 of my own sours coming online... i really shouldn't be buying commercial sours, but you just can't have enough pucker-beer on hand now can you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2015, 05:12:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 14, 2015, 04:27:15 pm
also, i've got 4 of my own sours coming online... i really shouldn't be buying commercial sours, but you just can't have enough pucker-beer on hand now can you?

Nice...might have to ask you some tips on your Brettanomyces
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 14, 2015, 08:22:34 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on May 14, 2015, 05:12:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 14, 2015, 04:27:15 pm
also, i've got 4 of my own sours coming online... i really shouldn't be buying commercial sours, but you just can't have enough pucker-beer on hand now can you?

Nice...might have to ask you some tips on your Brettanomyces


i know it's a fuzzy area, but brettanomyces doesn't make sour beer. 

lactobacillus and pediococcus bacteria are the main culprits.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 14, 2015, 08:27:06 pm
Aren't those dinosaurs? I didn't know, they could make beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2015, 11:04:24 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 14, 2015, 08:22:34 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on May 14, 2015, 05:12:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 14, 2015, 04:27:15 pm
also, i've got 4 of my own sours coming online... i really shouldn't be buying commercial sours, but you just can't have enough pucker-beer on hand now can you?

Nice...might have to ask you some tips on your Brettanomyces


i know it's a fuzzy area, but brettanomyces doesn't make sour beer. 

lactobacillus and pediococcus bacteria are the main culprits.

true indeed, but where there is sour beer there is almost always brett (always when using pedio, and fairly often with lacto).  so my interpretation of sidehatch's question was "if you know about sour beer, you probably know about brett".

i've been using brett for a few years.  ask away, happy to share my knowledge/opinions.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
^so yes, not quite at the stage to be home brewing a sour....but I would like to get there someday.
As I do love a good sour

Went to a Sour Tasting held by Greg Engert and couldn't stop going on about  brettanomyces
So yes, was trying to show off the big brain on brad

But as far as home brewing sours, I think the main ingredient is time and allowing your brew be exposed to the air.

Have you tried using some of the fancy $18 a bottle sours and adding them to your own sours
As my understanding is frequently sours are a blend of longer aged batches and younger ones
Mostly to keep the cost down


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 15, 2015, 11:19:55 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 14, 2015, 11:04:24 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 14, 2015, 08:22:34 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on May 14, 2015, 05:12:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 14, 2015, 04:27:15 pm
also, i've got 4 of my own sours coming online... i really shouldn't be buying commercial sours, but you just can't have enough pucker-beer on hand now can you?

Nice...might have to ask you some tips on your Brettanomyces


i know it's a fuzzy area, but brettanomyces doesn't make sour beer. 

lactobacillus and pediococcus bacteria are the main culprits.

true indeed, but where there is sour beer there is almost always brett (always when using pedio, and fairly often with lacto).  so my interpretation of sidehatch's question was "if you know about sour beer, you probably know about brett".

i've been using brett for a few years.  ask away, happy to share my knowledge/opinions.

i just wanted to show off.   8)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 15, 2015, 02:39:26 pm
I haven't drank a beer or any other alcohol for three weeks now.  haven't smoked either.  I feel, good, and am saving some money too. 

jesus, wept.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 15, 2015, 02:44:35 pm
Wait i thought you were drunk and naked on, like, wednesday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 15, 2015, 03:16:27 pm
oh, yeah.  damn, you, internet super sleuth.  I had two glasses of a wonderful petit verdot, and got so loopy that I didn't know what was going on.  but I had the worst hangover ever. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2015, 03:37:18 pm
Big beer weekend for us...it's our 12th wedding anniversary so we're drinking our one bottle of Westy 12, alongside a bottle of St Bernardus 12. Ironically, dark belgian ales and quads have kind of slipped in terms of what we both like...but I'm sure we'll choke them both down.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 15, 2015, 03:46:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2015, 03:37:18 pm
Big beer weekend for us...it's our 12th wedding anniversary so we're drinking our one bottle of Westy 12, alongside a bottle of St Bernardus 12. Ironically, dark belgian ales and quads have kind of slipped in terms of what we both like...but I'm sure we'll choke them both down.

i'm interested in hearing a comparison.  i've consumed two westy 12s and countless st b 12's, and well, you could probably guess which one i liked best.  i always here the argument that they are close enough in taste that it's ridiculous to pay the premium for westy 12, but i think it might be justified.  its a damn fine beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2015, 04:24:02 pm
i have both of these beers in the cellar.  at some point i need to break them out for a side-by-side.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2015, 04:36:48 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
^so yes, not quite at the stage to be home brewing a sour....but I would like to get there someday.
As I do love a good sour
 
brewing sour beer isn't that much harder than a clean beer.

Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
But as far as home brewing sours, I think the main ingredient is time and allowing your brew be exposed to the air.

time yes, air no.  you don't need to worry about exposure to O2, even with your best efforts enough air will get in there.  too much air can result in acetic acid (AKA vinegar) and that's not the kind of acidity & flavor you want in your beer.  i do primary fermentation in a large carboy (or bucket), then transfer to a secondary that i fill all the way to the top (to the narrow part of the neck).  there is less than a inch between the surface of the beer and the stopper/air lock.

time & space are typically the toughest obstacles.  most sours will take at least a year of aging.  you need somewhere to store that carboy for many months, preferably somewhere dark and that doesn't get too hot, which can be a challenge for apartment dwellers.

trick to brewing sour beer is to get a pipeline going.  first year is rough while you sit around and watch the beer age, but once that first batch comes online you're rolling (as long as you re-brew right away to refill the pipeline).

Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
Have you tried using some of the fancy $18 a bottle sours and adding them to your own sours

yup, i prefer using bugs from bottles to most commercial offerings (certainly better than anything offered by Wyest or White Labs, smaller yeast vendors tend to have much better bugs).  at bottle share parties, i've been known to show up with a sanitized jar with some weak wort.  folks know to save the last pour for me.  dregs go in the jar, give the bugs a few weeks to ferment out the wort and recharge their batteries, and boom.  i currently have 2 cultures going, both based on dregs from several commercial beers.

here's a list of commercial beers with viable dregs (http://www.themadfermentationist.com/p/dreg-list.html).  not exhaustive, but a decent start.

Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
As my understanding is frequently sours are a blend of longer aged batches and younger ones
Mostly to keep the cost down

not all sours are blends.  certain styles need to be blended by definition, such as most belgian styles (gueuze, kriek, etc.).  many north american sours are single-batch beers.

i've never heard of blending being done for cost reasons.  as far as i know, blending is done for:
1) taste - the older beer will be more sour, the younger beer will be maltier, sweeter, etc.  blending is done to get the right balance of the two.
2) carbonation: the residual sugars in the young beer are what carbonates the beer.  instead of adding priming sugar at bottling, you're adding a beer that already has sugars in it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2015, 04:41:07 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 15, 2015, 03:46:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2015, 03:37:18 pm
Big beer weekend for us...it's our 12th wedding anniversary so we're drinking our one bottle of Westy 12, alongside a bottle of St Bernardus 12. Ironically, dark belgian ales and quads have kind of slipped in terms of what we both like...but I'm sure we'll choke them both down.

i'm interested in hearing a comparison.  i've consumed two westy 12s and countless st b 12's, and well, you could probably guess which one i liked best.  i always here the argument that they are close enough in taste that it's ridiculous to pay the premium for westy 12, but i think it might be justified.  its a damn fine beer.

Will report results on Monday.

We also have some Rochefort 10 and a couple of De Struise (Pannepot and St Amatus) beers that could be part of the discussion, but I think two high abv beers are enough for one Sunday afternoon sitting...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 15, 2015, 04:46:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2015, 04:36:48 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
^so yes, not quite at the stage to be home brewing a sour....but I would like to get there someday.
As I do love a good sour
 
brewing sour beer isn't that much harder than a clean beer.

Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
But as far as home brewing sours, I think the main ingredient is time and allowing your brew be exposed to the air.

time yes, air no.  you don't need to worry about exposure to O2, even with your best efforts enough air will get in there.  too much air can result in acetic acid (AKA vinegar) and that's not the kind of acidity & flavor you want in your beer.  i do primary fermentation in a large carboy (or bucket), then transfer to a secondary that i fill all the way to the top (to the narrow part of the neck).  there is less than a inch between the surface of the beer and the stopper/air lock.

time & space are typically the toughest obstacles.  most sours will take at least a year of aging.  you need somewhere to store that carboy for many months, preferably somewhere dark and that doesn't get too hot, which can be a challenge for apartment dwellers.

trick to brewing sour beer is to get a pipeline going.  first year is rough while you sit around and watch the beer age, but once that first batch comes online you're rolling (as long as you re-brew right away to refill the pipeline).

Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
Have you tried using some of the fancy $18 a bottle sours and adding them to your own sours

yup, i prefer using bugs from bottles to most commercial offerings (certainly better than anything offered by Wyest or White Labs, smaller yeast vendors tend to have much better bugs).  at bottle share parties, i've been known to show up with a sanitized jar with some weak wort.  folks know to save the last pour for me.  dregs go in the jar, give the bugs a few weeks to ferment out the wort and recharge their batteries, and boom.  i currently have 2 cultures going, both based on dregs from several commercial beers.

here's a list of commercial beers with viable dregs (http://www.themadfermentationist.com/p/dreg-list.html).  not exhaustive, but a decent start.

Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
As my understanding is frequently sours are a blend of longer aged batches and younger ones
Mostly to keep the cost down

not all sours are blends.  certain styles need to be blended by definition, such as most belgian styles (gueuze, kriek, etc.).  many north american sours are single-batch beers.

i've never heard of blending being done for cost reasons.  as far as i know, blending is done for:
1) taste - the older beer will be more sour, the younger beer will be maltier, sweeter, etc.  blending is done to get the right balance of the two.
2) carbonation: the residual sugars in the young beer are what carbonates the beer.  instead of adding priming sugar at bottling, you're adding a beer that already has sugars in it.

when sweetie talks beer, walky listens.... bitch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 15, 2015, 04:51:26 pm
I see sweets got his beer post doctorate
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2015, 10:27:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 15, 2015, 04:46:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2015, 04:36:48 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
^so yes, not quite at the stage to be home brewing a sour....but I would like to get there someday.
As I do love a good sour
 
brewing sour beer isn't that much harder than a clean beer.

Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
But as far as home brewing sours, I think the main ingredient is time and allowing your brew be exposed to the air.

time yes, air no.  you don't need to worry about exposure to O2, even with your best efforts enough air will get in there.  too much air can result in acetic acid (AKA vinegar) and that's not the kind of acidity & flavor you want in your beer.  i do primary fermentation in a large carboy (or bucket), then transfer to a secondary that i fill all the way to the top (to the narrow part of the neck).  there is less than a inch between the surface of the beer and the stopper/air lock.

time & space are typically the toughest obstacles.  most sours will take at least a year of aging.  you need somewhere to store that carboy for many months, preferably somewhere dark and that doesn't get too hot, which can be a challenge for apartment dwellers.

trick to brewing sour beer is to get a pipeline going.  first year is rough while you sit around and watch the beer age, but once that first batch comes online you're rolling (as long as you re-brew right away to refill the pipeline).

Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
Have you tried using some of the fancy $18 a bottle sours and adding them to your own sours

yup, i prefer using bugs from bottles to most commercial offerings (certainly better than anything offered by Wyest or White Labs, smaller yeast vendors tend to have much better bugs).  at bottle share parties, i've been known to show up with a sanitized jar with some weak wort.  folks know to save the last pour for me.  dregs go in the jar, give the bugs a few weeks to ferment out the wort and recharge their batteries, and boom.  i currently have 2 cultures going, both based on dregs from several commercial beers.

here's a list of commercial beers with viable dregs (http://www.themadfermentationist.com/p/dreg-list.html).  not exhaustive, but a decent start.

Quote from: Sidehatch on May 15, 2015, 08:49:12 am
As my understanding is frequently sours are a blend of longer aged batches and younger ones
Mostly to keep the cost down

not all sours are blends.  certain styles need to be blended by definition, such as most belgian styles (gueuze, kriek, etc.).  many north american sours are single-batch beers.

i've never heard of blending being done for cost reasons.  as far as i know, blending is done for:
1) taste - the older beer will be more sour, the younger beer will be maltier, sweeter, etc.  blending is done to get the right balance of the two.
2) carbonation: the residual sugars in the young beer are what carbonates the beer.  instead of adding priming sugar at bottling, you're adding a beer that already has sugars in it.

when sweetie talks beer, walky listens.... bitch.



I remember the days when he was solely a cream ale drinker. Now look at him go.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2015, 11:07:41 pm
i'm somewhat obsessive about my hobbies.  for the past few years, brewing has been my only hobby.  i read a lot and listen to a lot of podcasts...

avery raspberry sour: really solid beer.  good amount of pucker-power, raspberries are evident.  not sure i'd pay $16 + tax for another bottle, but if it was $10 like they seem to be going for out west i'd get a case.  i would drink it now, vs. aging it.

also tried the victory kirsche gose last night - what a great summer beer.  just a hint of tartness to make it refreshing.  i can see myself crushing several of those on a hot day.  the missus, who hates sour beer, really liked it - in fact she walked off with my glass, i had to pour myself another one. unprecedented.  

and i was never solely a cream ale drinker... just so happened my fav beer for a long time was a cream ale (Sleeman cream ale).  off to do finish the second half of that raspberry sour ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 16, 2015, 12:46:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2015, 11:07:41 pm
i'm somewhat obsessive about my hobbies.  for the past few years, brewing has been my only hobby.  i read a lot and listen to a lot of podcasts...

avery raspberry sour: really solid beer.  good amount of pucker-power, raspberries are evident.  not sure i'd pay $16 + tax for another bottle, but if it was $10 like they seem to be going for out west i'd get a case.  i would drink it now, vs. aging it.

also tried the victory kirsche gose last night - what a great summer beer.  just a hint of tartness to make it refreshing.  i can see myself crushing several of those on a hot day.  the missus, who hates sour beer, really liked it - in fact she walked off with my glass, i had to pour myself another one. unprecedented.  

and i was never solely a cream ale drinker... just so happened my fav beer for a long time was a cream ale (Sleeman cream ale).  off to do finish the second half of that raspberry sour ;D

we'll have to do a sour trade later this year - i've got a collective barrel-aged sour that you might like - it's base is a cuvee de tomme clone and we'll be bottling it soon.  what do you recommend for aging on fruit? i was going to split half my allotment (5 gallons) and let it age on some fruit also was going to brew a clean saison this week and then rack it on some frozen fruit for 2-3 months then keg it for late summer drinking.  does this plan make sense?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2015, 12:26:20 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 16, 2015, 12:46:21 pm
we'll have to do a sour trade later this year -
 
funny, i was just thinking that last week. i'll have to send you mine ASAP.  i have a brett IPA that is at its prime right now.  plus, the weather is only going to get warmer...

Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 16, 2015, 12:46:21 pm
i've got a collective barrel-aged sour that you might like - it's base is a cuvee de tomme clone

sounds awesome.  how big is the barrel?  i've been considering going in on a 30-gallon barrel with 1 or 2 other guys. 

Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 16, 2015, 12:46:21 pm
what do you recommend for aging on fruit? i was going to split half my allotment (5 gallons) and let it age on some fruit

will depend on the base beer.... it's a brett'ed quad, right?  seems like you'd want to go with something pretty bold to cut through: sour cherries would be my first choice, raspberries would also be good (and can be used at slightly below the standard rate of 2 lbs/gallon).  i would skip any stone fruit (apricots, peaches, etc) as they are likely to be too subtle to be noticed.  i have yet to taste a blueberry beer that has impressed me.  i'm wondering what pineapple would taste like in a brett'ed quad...

you going to use fresh?  frozen?  canned/puree?

Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 16, 2015, 12:46:21 pm
also was going to brew a clean saison this week and then rack it on some frozen fruit for 2-3 months then keg it for late summer drinking.  does this plan make sense?

2-3 months on fruit is really long for a clean beer.  sour beers need that long but clean ones don't.  2 weeks is pretty standard, so a month would be more than enough.  your saison will have plenty of viable saccharomyces left, they'll ferment the fruit quickly.  with aged sour beers, you're depending on brett & bacteria to ferment the fruit (and the pulp, and everything else) which is going to take more time.  when i added sour cherries to my soon-to-be-kriek, it took 7 or 8 days for the first signs of activity to show up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2015, 08:41:03 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 15, 2015, 03:46:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2015, 03:37:18 pm
Big beer weekend for us...it's our 12th wedding anniversary so we're drinking our one bottle of Westy 12, alongside a bottle of St Bernardus 12. Ironically, dark belgian ales and quads have kind of slipped in terms of what we both like...but I'm sure we'll choke them both down.

i'm interested in hearing a comparison.  i've consumed two westy 12s and countless st b 12's, and well, you could probably guess which one i liked best.  i always here the argument that they are close enough in taste that it's ridiculous to pay the premium for westy 12, but i think it might be justified.  its a damn fine beer.

I liked the Westy 12 slightly better, but only slightly. Admittedly that may have been because I wanted it that way. I thought they were fairly close in taste and quality. But are excellent beers.

My wife, after referring to it as "Westie 12" on Facebook, proclaimed it a tie and said she'd rather be drinking an IPA. Typical hophead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 18, 2015, 10:59:53 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 18, 2015, 12:26:20 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 16, 2015, 12:46:21 pm
what do you recommend for aging on fruit? i was going to split half my allotment (5 gallons) and let it age on some fruit

will depend on the base beer.... it's a brett'ed quad, right?  seems like you'd want to go with something pretty bold to cut through: sour cherries would be my first choice, raspberries would also be good (and can be used at slightly below the standard rate of 2 lbs/gallon).  i would skip any stone fruit (apricots, peaches, etc) as they are likely to be too subtle to be noticed.  i have yet to taste a blueberry beer that has impressed me.  i'm wondering what pineapple would taste like in a brett'ed quad...

you going to use fresh?  frozen?  canned/puree?


55 gallon barrel, closer to belgian strong ale than anything, i guess it was a recipe inspired by cuvee de tomme rather than a clone.  same beer characteristics hold true (candi sugar, dark fruity flavor, big dark beer) but it's about 3% abv short.  when we taste it next week before bottling, i'll have pineapple on my mind :D  i think i would cut it up fresh, freeze it, then let it unthaw in the secondary and rack onto it.

Quote from: sweetcell on May 18, 2015, 12:26:20 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 16, 2015, 12:46:21 pm
also was going to brew a clean saison this week and then rack it on some frozen fruit for 2-3 months then keg it for late summer drinking.  does this plan make sense?

2-3 months on fruit is really long for a clean beer.  sour beers need that long but clean ones don't.  2 weeks is pretty standard, so a month would be more than enough.  your saison will have plenty of viable saccharomyces left, they'll ferment the fruit quickly.  with aged sour beers, you're depending on brett & bacteria to ferment the fruit (and the pulp, and everything else) which is going to take more time.  when i added sour cherries to my soon-to-be-kriek, it took 7 or 8 days for the first signs of activity to show up.

no more clean beer strategy. brewed the saison yesterday and pitched 3711 simultaneously with bottle dregs from two fantastic sours (between the staves and an ale from propolis).  fermentation is already underway and i'm thinking now ive got 3 weeks of fermenting out, then i'll rack it to a carboy for 6 months then re-evaluate.  i don't think i realized how long the waiting period to drink was extended by pitching those dregs.  might be the start of my sour pipeline...

thanks for the info! you're like the mad fermentationist with 1000 less words.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 18, 2015, 11:04:29 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2015, 08:41:03 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 15, 2015, 03:46:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2015, 03:37:18 pm
Big beer weekend for us...it's our 12th wedding anniversary so we're drinking our one bottle of Westy 12, alongside a bottle of St Bernardus 12. Ironically, dark belgian ales and quads have kind of slipped in terms of what we both like...but I'm sure we'll choke them both down.

i'm interested in hearing a comparison.  i've consumed two westy 12s and countless st b 12's, and well, you could probably guess which one i liked best.  i always here the argument that they are close enough in taste that it's ridiculous to pay the premium for westy 12, but i think it might be justified.  its a damn fine beer.

I liked the Westy 12 slightly better, but only slightly. Admittedly that may have been because I wanted it that way. I thought they were fairly close in taste and quality. But are excellent beers.

My wife, after referring to it as "Westie 12" on Facebook, proclaimed it a tie and said she'd rather be drinking an IPA. Typical hophead.

IPA is still king.  there's four or five days of the year when i say "damn, a quad sounds really nice right now".  i guess we are lucky that one of the best quads out there is always turding it up on the shelves.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 18, 2015, 11:26:54 am
is westy "better", because it is so hard to get?  I see st bernardus everywhere, so I know in America, we get bored of things too easy to find.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2015, 02:37:18 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 18, 2015, 11:26:54 am
is westy "better", because it is so hard to get?  I see st bernardus everywhere, so I know in America, we get bored of things too easy to find.

I think I paid about 9 Euros for an 11.2 oz Westy in a specialty beer shop in Bruges. I think I paid about 1.5 Euros for an 11.2 oz bottle of St Bernardus 12 in a grocery store in Bruges. If I lived in Belgium, I know what I'd spend my 9 Euros on, 100% of the time. The six pack of St Bernardus singles.

 So to answer your question, for me the answer to your question is a qualified "yes".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 18, 2015, 02:55:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2015, 02:37:18 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 18, 2015, 11:26:54 am
is westy "better", because it is so hard to get?  I see st bernardus everywhere, so I know in America, we get bored of things too easy to find.

I think I paid about 9 Euros for an 11.2 oz Westy in a specialty beer shop in Bruges. \

Space's most expensive per ounce beer purchase in history?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2015, 03:08:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2015, 02:55:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2015, 02:37:18 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 18, 2015, 11:26:54 am
is westy "better", because it is so hard to get?  I see st bernardus everywhere, so I know in America, we get bored of things too easy to find.

I think I paid about 9 Euros for an 11.2 oz Westy in a specialty beer shop in Bruges. \

Space's most expensive per ounce beer purchase in history?

At a bar or a bottle shop? If just the latter, maybe, given the strength of the Euro relative to the Dollar in 2012. I've also paid a pretty penny for some Russian River, Lost Abbey, Allagash, Oxbow, and Almanac beers that either i or a friend brought back home for me, so i don't really know...

How about you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 18, 2015, 03:18:47 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2015, 03:08:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2015, 02:55:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2015, 02:37:18 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 18, 2015, 11:26:54 am
is westy "better", because it is so hard to get?  I see st bernardus everywhere, so I know in America, we get bored of things too easy to find.

I think I paid about 9 Euros for an 11.2 oz Westy in a specialty beer shop in Bruges. \

Space's most expensive per ounce beer purchase in history?

At a bar or a bottle shop? If just the latter, maybe, given the strength of the Euro relative to the Dollar in 2012. I've also paid a pretty penny for some Russian River, Lost Abbey, Allagash, Oxbow, and Almanac beers that either i or a friend brought back home for me, so i don't really know...

How about you?

I'd probably say Cascade, Almanac, or Eclipse.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 18, 2015, 04:27:52 pm
I some how was picked to be a judge for a home brew contest this weekend... Looks like there's 40 entries thus far. I don't know shit about judgin' but I'll do my best!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2015, 04:36:08 pm
i've paid in the low 20's - FW Anniversary, Vanberg & DeWulf Lambickx, Rodenback Caractere Rouge (brought back from Belgium), etc.  the only bottle that i've ever paid more than $25 for was 3 Fonteinen Golden Blend 2011 (375 ml) but that price includes shipping.  still sitting on that one.   i also have two bottle of Eclipse that were close to $30 each but they were both gifts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2015, 01:01:36 pm
I've been to some great (and not so great) craft beer breweries and bars all over North America and Europe. In doing so, i've picked up my fair share of cool beer related t-shirts, often with cool graphics.

But I've got one beer related t-shirt (a gift from my mom) that gets more "Cool t-shirt, bro" comments than all my other beer t-shirts combined:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JjoodUwSL._SX342_.jpg)

It's still a BMC world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2015, 01:33:49 pm
Woah, check out this SAvor related event....


The events are all getting posted by dc beer now. Been waiting for the official announcement of that Fremont/Founders event on Thurs @ Meridian... (JUNE 4 I'm assuming?)

 Other than awesome beer, what do Michigan-based Founders and Washington State-based Fremont have in common?

 Well, it turns out that Founders market manager Jonathan McIntire and Fremont brewmaster Matt Lincoln started brewing together 15 years ago in Traverse City, Michigan and the livers have never been the same.

 To commemorate this fortuitous meeting, we're pulling out a stellar line-up from each brewery!

 Highlights will include:

 Founders Canadian Breakfast Stout (CBS) - A highly coveted imperial stout brewed with coffee and chocolate aged in maple syrup bourbon barrels
 Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout (KBS) - Imperial stout brewed with coffee and chocolate and cave-aged in bourbon barrels
 Founders Mosaic Promise - Pale ale brewed with one malt (Golden Promise) and one hop (Mosaic)

 Fremont Bourbon BA Dark Star - Imperial oatmeal stout aged in 15 year-old Kentucky bourbon barrels
 Fremont Bourbon BA Dark Star w/Coffee
 Fremont Bourbon Abominable (B-BOMB) - Winter warmer aged in oak bourbon barrels

 Full beer list:

 Founders CBS
 Founders KBS
 Founders Backwoods Bastard
 Founders Big Lushious
 Founders Blushing Monk
 Founders Imperial Stout
 Founders Curmudgeon Old Ale
 Founders Bliss Blast All Day IPA
 Founders All Day IPA
 Founders Mosaic Promise
 Founders Rubaeus (Nitro)

 Fremont Interurban IPA
 Fremont Universale Pale Ale
 Fremont The Sister Imperial IPA
 Fremont Summer Ale
 Fremont Spring Elixir
 Fremont Kolsch
 Fremont Bourbon Abominable
 Fremont Bourbon BA Dark Star
 Fremont Bourbon BA Dark Star Coffee
 Fremont 1st Nail
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 20, 2015, 01:39:02 pm
and here's your Fremont cheat-sheet:

b-bomb > 1st nail > Coffee KDS > spring elixir > KDS > summer > interurban > sister
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 20, 2015, 01:45:03 pm
i imagine a good way to spend $50 would be to order CBS, KBS, b-bomb, KDS, and coffee KDS in a row.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 20, 2015, 02:05:29 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 20, 2015, 01:45:03 pm
i imagine a good way to spend $50 would be to order CBS, KBS, b-bomb, KDS, and coffee KDS in a row.

that's what i would do, but swapping out the KBS in favor of 1st nail.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 20, 2015, 02:25:18 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 20, 2015, 02:05:29 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on May 20, 2015, 01:45:03 pm
i imagine a good way to spend $50 would be to order CBS, KBS, b-bomb, KDS, and coffee KDS in a row.

that's what i would do, but swapping out the KBS in favor of 1st nail.

a worthy swap out, but it's a different beast than the rest of the stouts. i liken it to abraxas.

it's also presumably a few dollars cheaper.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 20, 2015, 02:36:23 pm
my thinking is that we can get KBS here (it's rare, but it comes around) as opposed to Freemont which isn't available at all.

also, as i've mentioned here before, i'm sorta over KBS.  it's a very nice stout but not worth the price and the trouble, IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2015, 03:33:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 20, 2015, 02:36:23 pm
my thinking is that we can get KBS here (it's rare, but it comes around) as opposed to Freemont which isn't available at all.

also, as i've mentioned here before, i'm sorta over KBS.  it's a very nice stout but not worth the price and the trouble, IMO.

I paid about 50 cents an ounce for KBS in a bottle, and about 75 cents an ounce for Parabola in a bottle. I might give Parabola a slight edge in a head to head tasting, but if KBS isn't worth the price, then neither is Parabola, to me.  ;D

That said, I think they're both worth the price I paid, purchased in small annual amounts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 20, 2015, 03:47:35 pm
Backwoods, bastard, or, fuck, off.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2015, 03:57:28 pm
Quote from: walkonby on May 20, 2015, 03:47:35 pm
Backwoods, bastard, or, fuck, off.

Got about six or eight of BB sitting in the cellar. I only have one Fremont beer. (Abominable). So Fremont it would be, if i were there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 20, 2015, 03:59:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 20, 2015, 03:33:03 pm
I paid about 50 cents an ounce for KBS in a bottle, and about 75 cents an ounce for Parabola in a bottle. I might give Parabola a slight edge in a head to head tasting, but if KBS isn't worth the price, then neither is Parabola, to me.  ;D
you paid $6 for KBS?  it was a dime under $10 at WF in DC, so 82 cents an ounce.  Parabola worked out to 95 cents - not much of a difference.  i definitely prefer it to KBS and it was easier to find.  winner: parabola.

and it's not just the price, it's price + effort.  i don't care if they're giving away KBS if i have to run around the city and stand in long lines to get it.  so going on price alone doesn't paint the right picture.

wait, what the hell just happened to me... since when do i price my beer by the ounce?!?  damn you, charlie.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2015, 08:12:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 20, 2015, 03:59:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 20, 2015, 03:33:03 pm
I paid about 50 cents an ounce for KBS in a bottle, and about 75 cents an ounce for Parabola in a bottle. I might give Parabola a slight edge in a head to head tasting, but if KBS isn't worth the price, then neither is Parabola, to me.  ;D
you paid $6 for KBS?  it was a dime under $10 at WF in DC, so 82 cents an ounce.  Parabola worked out to 95 cents - not much of a difference.  i definitely prefer it to KBS and it was easier to find.  winner: parabola.

and it's not just the price, it's price + effort.  i don't care if they're giving away KBS if i have to run around the city and stand in long lines to get it.  so going on price alone doesn't paint the right picture.

wait, what the hell just happened to me... since when do i price my beer by the ounce?!?  damn you, charlie.

This year's haul:

KBS:
one four pack @ $21.99
three singles @$5.99 each
was easy to get since i was on vacation

Parabola:
one bottle @$14.99
easy to get since my wife works on FW delivery day at Whole Foods a mile away
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 26, 2015, 08:47:43 am
I'm generally pretty underwhelmed by the breweries in NoVA, but I went to Ocelot on Sterling over the weekend, and they're pretty damn impressive for only having been open two months. Best brewery in NoVA already, maybe (?) the entire DMV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 26, 2015, 08:49:21 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2015, 11:07:41 pm
i'm somewhat obsessive about my hobbies.  for the past few years, brewing has been my only hobby.  i read a lot and listen to a lot of podcasts...

avery raspberry sour: really solid beer.  good amount of pucker-power, raspberries are evident.  not sure i'd pay $16 + tax for another bottle, but if it was $10 like they seem to be going for out west i'd get a case.  i would drink it now, vs. aging it.

also tried the victory kirsche gose last night - what a great summer beer.  just a hint of tartness to make it refreshing.  i can see myself crushing several of those on a hot day.  the missus, who hates sour beer, really liked it - in fact she walked off with my glass, i had to pour myself another one. unprecedented.  

and i was never solely a cream ale drinker... just so happened my fav beer for a long time was a cream ale (Sleeman cream ale).  off to do finish the second half of that raspberry sour ;D

I had a glass of the Raspberry Sour from Avery. Two thumbs up on that one. And then took home a 32 oz growler of it for $11. Wish I had gotten two growlers of it for that price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 26, 2015, 09:01:12 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 26, 2015, 08:49:21 am
Wish I had gotten two growlers of it for that price.
Don't growlers go bad fairly quickly? 64oz of beer would last you and the Misses approximately 8 weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 26, 2015, 10:34:01 am
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on May 26, 2015, 09:01:12 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 26, 2015, 08:49:21 am
Wish I had gotten two growlers of it for that price.
Don't growlers go bad fairly quickly? 64oz of beer would last you and the Misses approximately 8 weeks.

Good points. We drink a little more on select weekends. :) Between us, we can handle 32 ozs of 7% beer over the course of a day, when they need arises.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 26, 2015, 10:41:20 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 26, 2015, 08:49:21 am
I had a glass of the Raspberry Sour from Avery. Two thumbs up on that one. And then took home a 32 oz growler of it for $11. Wish I had gotten two growlers of it for that price.

I've never understood the use of the thumbs up / thumbs down rating system.  Its just as useless as a pass fail, unless you throw in the one thumb up / one thumb down rating.  Or maybe you excitedly extend your thumbs, then move your hands up and down for emphasis.

You know what would be great?  If somehow you could change the color of your thumbs, depending on how much you liked something (or disliked it).  Like green for good and red for bad.  Or maybe the size.  If you kinda liked something, your thumbs could double in size, but if you really liked it, they'd balloon up to like 10x their normal size.

Yeah, thumbs don't really cut it here.  How does it actually compare to other American Wild Ales?  Is it better if you dip your thumb in and suck it off?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 11:35:19 am
Quote from: grateful on May 26, 2015, 10:41:20 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 26, 2015, 08:49:21 am
I had a glass of the Raspberry Sour from Avery. Two thumbs up on that one. And then took home a 32 oz growler of it for $11. Wish I had gotten two growlers of it for that price.

I've never understood the use of the thumbs up / thumbs down rating system.  Its just as useless as a pass fail, unless you throw in the one thumb up / one thumb down rating.  Or maybe you excitedly extend your thumbs, then move your hands up and down for emphasis.

You know what would be great?  If somehow you could change the color of your thumbs, depending on how much you liked something (or disliked it).  Like green for good and red for bad.  Or maybe the size.  If you kinda liked something, your thumbs could double in size, but if you really liked it, they'd balloon up to like 10x their normal size.

Yeah, thumbs don't really cut it here.  How does it actually compare to other American Wild Ales?  Is it better if you dip your thumb in and suck it off?

I give it an A-/ Does that help? As far as sour beers go, it's not as good as Abbaye de Bon Chien or the Russian River sours, but it's as good as anything by Crooked Stave or the New Belgium sours (La Folie, Le Terior). Does that help?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 11:35:46 am
Kind of a bummer.

http://www.brewbound.com/news/flying-dog-scraps-would-be-farm-brewery

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 01:40:41 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on May 04, 2015, 02:00:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/an-early-contender-for-beer-of-the-year-1701515512/+robharvilla

This one is back on the shelves, at least in VA, if anyone is looking for more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 28, 2015, 02:02:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 01:40:41 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on May 04, 2015, 02:00:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.


(http://france44.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/victory-kirsch-gose-4.gif)

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/an-early-contender-for-beer-of-the-year-1701515512/+robharvilla

This one is back on the shelves, at least in VA, if anyone is looking for more.

Bought three, four packs today. I crave this beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 02:18:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 28, 2015, 02:02:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 01:40:41 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on May 04, 2015, 02:00:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2015, 11:29:45 am
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.



http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/an-early-contender-for-beer-of-the-year-1701515512/+robharvilla

This one is back on the shelves, at least in VA, if anyone is looking for more.

Bought three, four packs today. I crave this beer.

I was probably too harsh on it previously. In lieu of not being able to get any more Westbrook Gose, I was happy to be able to go buy more of this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 28, 2015, 03:00:22 pm
Any easy access to Wicked Weed brews on the way or in the Outer Banks?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 03:17:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 28, 2015, 03:00:22 pm
Any easy access to Wicked Weed brews on the way or in the Outer Banks?

Not sure, but looking forward to the Wicked Weed events at Churchkey and City Tap House next week. Anybody hitting one of those?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 28, 2015, 03:18:29 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 03:17:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 28, 2015, 03:00:22 pm
Any easy access to Wicked Weed brews on the way or in the Outer Banks?

Not sure, but looking forward to the Wicked Weed events at Churchkey and City Tap House next week. Anybody hitting one of those?

Didn't see the one at City Taphouse, link? I usually go there once a week though since it's by my office.

I think the only one I'm definitely going to hit up is Meridian Pint on Thursday and maybe a Tuesday event if I can swing it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 03:45:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 28, 2015, 03:18:29 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 28, 2015, 03:17:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 28, 2015, 03:00:22 pm
Any easy access to Wicked Weed brews on the way or in the Outer Banks?

Not sure, but looking forward to the Wicked Weed events at Churchkey and City Tap House next week. Anybody hitting one of those?

Didn't see the one at City Taphouse, link? I usually go there once a week though since it's by my office.

I think the only one I'm definitely going to hit up is Meridian Pint on Thursday and maybe a Tuesday event if I can swing it.

http://www.citytaphousedc.com/events/new-belgium-wicked-weed-tap-takeover/70

It's on Saturday 6/6, so if you're going to the actual Savor itself, might not be your best option. It has less WW taps than the Churchkey event, but probably enough to satisfy one drinker.

We'll likely do the Meridian Pint Thursday and City Tap Saturday events. Also got a Birch and Barley reservation for Wed just in case.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 05, 2015, 08:13:42 am
Anybody else make it to Meridian Pint yesterday? Yada?

I had five four ounce pours. In order of preference:

1. CBS
2. Bourbon Abominable
3. KBS
4. Coffee KDS
5. Regular KDS

They all paired wonderfully with a slice of bourbon pecan pie with vanilla ice cream.

Wish I had known about the event at Brookland Pint that started at 11am, the Vanilla Rye Bourbon County would have made a great lunch refreshment!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Got Haggis? on June 05, 2015, 09:01:19 am
the other week I had Old Pro from Union...man, it was delicious.  it's a gose beer.  bonus for naming it after the miniature golf course company.

http://www.unioncraftbrewing.com/project/old-pro-gose/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 05, 2015, 09:16:39 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 05, 2015, 08:13:42 am
Anybody else make it to Meridian Pint yesterday? Yada?

I had five four ounce pours. In order of preference:

1. CBS
2. Bourbon Abominable
3. KBS
4. Coffee KDS
5. Regular KDS

They all paired wonderfully with a slice of bourbon pecan pie with vanilla ice cream.

Wish I had known about the event at Brookland Pint that started at 11am, the Vanilla Rye Bourbon County would have made a great lunch refreshment!

Yes sir... got there right around 4pm and hung with Brennser. You must've been in and out of there in a jiffy! CBS was being poured until close to 5pm which I was quite surprised about. I had a full pour of CBS and tasters of basically all of the Fremont beers and KBS. I much prefer events at MP vs. CK.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 05, 2015, 12:28:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 05, 2015, 09:16:39 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 05, 2015, 08:13:42 am
Anybody else make it to Meridian Pint yesterday? Yada?

I had five four ounce pours. In order of preference:

1. CBS
2. Bourbon Abominable
3. KBS
4. Coffee KDS
5. Regular KDS

They all paired wonderfully with a slice of bourbon pecan pie with vanilla ice cream.

Wish I had known about the event at Brookland Pint that started at 11am, the Vanilla Rye Bourbon County would have made a great lunch refreshment!

Yes sir... got there right around 4pm and hung with Brennser. You must've been in and out of there in a jiffy! CBS was being poured until close to 5pm which I was quite surprised about. I had a full pour of CBS and tasters of basically all of the Fremont beers and KBS. I much prefer events at MP vs. CK.

I was downstairs from about 3-3:55. Looked for you and anybody else I might recognize as I was leaving, but didn't see anybody. I did chat with one guy who had just come from Brookland and was headed to Churchkey. He bought four full pours of Fremont beers, and left at least half a glass of each. Two of them looked like he only took a couple of sips. What a waste!

I agree regarding MP vs. CK. MP was very nice downstairs. Had my own table facing the O's game with some good tunes on....and not too crowded.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 05, 2015, 01:32:30 pm
glad you guys got to try some fremont!

we had a pretty epic bottle share last night, including fremont cinnamon b-bomb, vanilla rye, cuivre, de garde special rouge, among others.  that vanilla rye is great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on June 08, 2015, 12:44:46 pm
Anyone had the Lost Rhino sours?  I'm really impressed.  I've had the farmhouse, peach and blackberry and all were excellent.  You can only buy them at the brewery.  If you're a fan of the sour stuff these are a must try.  I think they're doing sours better than anyone else locally.  Bluejacket has had a few decent ones.  They recently did a papaya gose that knocked it out of the park.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 08, 2015, 03:31:43 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on June 08, 2015, 12:44:46 pm
Anyone had the Lost Rhino sours?  I'm really impressed.  I've had the farmhouse, peach and blackberry and all were excellent.  You can only buy them at the brewery.  If you're a fan of the sour stuff these are a must try.  I think they're doing sours better than anyone else locally.  Bluejacket has had a few decent ones.  They recently did a papaya gose that knocked it out of the park.

I've never had of the Lost Rhino sours, but I'll definitely check them. I feel like Blue Jacket got off to a bit of a rough start when they first opened, but the past half dozen beers I've had from there have been above average to great.

I attended Savor this weekend and I'll never miss it again. I'm not sure why I waited so many years to check it out, but I don't have one negative thing to say about the experience. It was a pretty great evening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 08, 2015, 04:16:32 pm
^what was total cost for you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 08, 2015, 04:38:15 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 08, 2015, 04:16:32 pm
^what was total cost for you?

Whatever the ticket cost was... I don't recall the exact amount, maybe $130?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 08, 2015, 04:43:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 08, 2015, 04:38:15 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 08, 2015, 04:16:32 pm
^what was total cost for you?

Whatever the ticket cost was... I don't recall the exact amount, maybe $130?
Was that the 2 day pass with the salons?
Just curious as I looked at it, but it looked really expensive
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 08, 2015, 04:50:31 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 08, 2015, 04:43:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 08, 2015, 04:38:15 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 08, 2015, 04:16:32 pm
^what was total cost for you?

Whatever the ticket cost was... I don't recall the exact amount, maybe $130?
Was that the 2 day pass with the salons?
Just curious as I looked at it, but it looked really expensive


No sir, that's general admission price for one evening. Definitely a pricey evening, but based on the James Ford per oz. price of quality beer + food + a great experience, it was indeed worth the price of admission.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 08, 2015, 05:47:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 08, 2015, 04:50:31 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 08, 2015, 04:43:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 08, 2015, 04:38:15 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 08, 2015, 04:16:32 pm
^what was total cost for you?

Whatever the ticket cost was... I don't recall the exact amount, maybe $130?
Was that the 2 day pass with the salons?
Just curious as I looked at it, but it looked really expensive


No sir, that's general admission price for one evening. Definitely a pricey evening, but based on the James Ford per oz. price of quality beer + food + a great experience, it was indeed worth the price of admission.

Somehow I think that although you're not physically larger than me, you can make a $135 food and beer ticket worth its cost, whereas I can't.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on June 09, 2015, 03:56:30 am
Lost Rhino had the Peach sour at Total Wine. I think I got 4 bottles of it. Great stuff for sure! I tried the Avery raspberry sour as well as the Victory Sour Monkey over the weekend. Both were very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 09, 2015, 08:17:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 08, 2015, 03:31:43 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on June 08, 2015, 12:44:46 pm
Anyone had the Lost Rhino sours?  I'm really impressed.  I've had the farmhouse, peach and blackberry and all were excellent.  You can only buy them at the brewery.  If you're a fan of the sour stuff these are a must try.  I think they're doing sours better than anyone else locally.  Bluejacket has had a few decent ones.  They recently did a papaya gose that knocked it out of the park.

I've never had of the Lost Rhino sours, but I'll definitely check them. I feel like Blue Jacket got off to a bit of a rough start when they first opened, but the past half dozen beers I've had from there have been above average to great.

I attended Savor this weekend and I'll never miss it again. I'm not sure why I waited so many years to check it out, but I don't have one negative thing to say about the experience. It was a pretty great evening.

i said the same exact thing 3 years ago when i attended.  they were in NYC the following year, then i moved, but it really is a great event.  what were your favorite beers?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 10, 2015, 04:46:25 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 09, 2015, 08:17:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 08, 2015, 03:31:43 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on June 08, 2015, 12:44:46 pm
Anyone had the Lost Rhino sours?  I'm really impressed.  I've had the farmhouse, peach and blackberry and all were excellent.  You can only buy them at the brewery.  If you're a fan of the sour stuff these are a must try.  I think they're doing sours better than anyone else locally.  Bluejacket has had a few decent ones.  They recently did a papaya gose that knocked it out of the park.

I've never had of the Lost Rhino sours, but I'll definitely check them. I feel like Blue Jacket got off to a bit of a rough start when they first opened, but the past half dozen beers I've had from there have been above average to great.

I attended Savor this weekend and I'll never miss it again. I'm not sure why I waited so many years to check it out, but I don't have one negative thing to say about the experience. It was a pretty great evening.

i said the same exact thing 3 years ago when i attended.  they were in NYC the following year, then i moved, but it really is a great event.  what were your favorite beers?

To be honest, it was a tad overwhelming due to the quantity of both great beers and beers I?ve never tried. I drank a boat load and still didn?t get to try everything I wanted. The best part was I think the longest line I waited in all night was for a few oysters. I never waited longer than a handful of people for a beer. Here were my top beers in no particular order and other than the Fremont Cinnamon B-Bomb, all beers I?ve never had.

Upland - probably my favorite combo of the evening
VinoSynth Red - Sour/Wild Ale
Dantalion - Wild Dark Ale

Finback ? I had never even heard of this brewery, but both beers were delicious.
Moby Hop - Imperial IPA
Starchild - Sour/Wild Ale

4 Hands Brewing
Madagascar Imperial Stout

Schlafly - both amazing
Lazy Ballerina ? Saison
Apricot Berliner Weisse

Strange Craft Beer Company - I drank probably 16oz of the Cherry Kriek  ;D
Cherry Kriek ? Fruit Beer
Breakfast Grapefruit IPA ? was surprised I liked this?

Nola
Lowerline ? Sour/Wild

Fremont
Coffee Cinnamon Bourbon A-Bomb ?Strong Ale (send me some wizzle! )

Shorts
Freedom of 78 (how can?t I enjoy an IPA named after a Ween song?)

Yazoo
Sue ? Porter
Embrace the Funk Series - Deux Rouges - Sour/Wild Ale

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 11, 2015, 04:44:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 10, 2015, 04:46:25 pm
Fremont
Coffee Cinnamon Bourbon A-Bomb ?Strong Ale (send me some wizzle! )

i drank all mine this year, and the one i had last week tasted like it was fading.  definitely a drink now, not later type of beer.

i'll send ya some this fall.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 11, 2015, 04:45:52 pm
i havent heard of half those breweries.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 12, 2015, 11:04:18 am
Space and other Virginians,

One of our good friends had the gall to move out to Ashburn and we're planning a Sunday visit one of these upcoming weekends. Best brewery for a stop/lunch?

Adroit Theory seems a bit too far out, but Ocelot, Old Ox, and Rhino are all within a few miles of their place. Best Beer? Best Food? Anything else to consider?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 12, 2015, 11:17:44 am
Quote from: Yada on June 12, 2015, 11:04:18 am
Space and other Virginians,

One of our good friends had the gall to move out to Ashburn and we're planning a Sunday visit one of these upcoming weekends. Best brewery for a stop/lunch?

Adroit Theory seems a bit too far out, but Ocelot, Old Ox, and Rhino are all within a few miles of their place. Best Beer? Best Food? Anything else to consider?

Ocelot by a landslide based on beer. They've only been open for three months but I'd go as far as to say that they're making the best IPA's in the DMV. And if your friends don't like the hoppy stuff, all of their beers I tried were spot on. They play good tunes too...though i guess that's a matter of taste (my wife heard Wilco and My Morning Jacket, I'm too deaf to really hear the music).
Here is their weekend agenda, looks like food trucks if you want food.

https://www.facebook.com/OcelotBrewing?fref=nf
 Sorry if i sould like a fanboy, I was really impressed based on first visit.

You are right. Adroit Theory is a hike. Good place to stop if you're passing through, but not worth the hike on its own, IMO. Decent but not great high ABV beers with loud metal music playing. Food trucks on weekends too.

I haven't been to Old Ox or Lost Rhino, but their beers tend to be pretty average. Not bad, but definitely well, average.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 12, 2015, 11:18:52 am
Taking a look at the head brewer's resume makes me think there's going to be yet another beer reason to head down to Richmond.

http://www.richmond.com/business/local/article_8694f1d8-73a2-56b3-850e-bed43937bcc4.html?TNNoMobile
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 12, 2015, 01:16:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 12, 2015, 11:18:52 am
Taking a look at the head brewer's resume makes me think there's going to be yet another beer reason to head down to Richmond.

http://www.richmond.com/business/local/article_8694f1d8-73a2-56b3-850e-bed43937bcc4.html?TNNoMobile

shit you're not kidding.  ISO
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 12, 2015, 01:44:55 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 12, 2015, 01:16:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 12, 2015, 11:18:52 am
Taking a look at the head brewer's resume makes me think there's going to be yet another beer reason to head down to Richmond.

http://www.richmond.com/business/local/article_8694f1d8-73a2-56b3-850e-bed43937bcc4.html?TNNoMobile

shit you're not kidding.  ISO
Is this the actual Heady Topper guy or just an apprentice? Scott's Addition is blowing up with breweries right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 12, 2015, 01:46:08 pm
The question is, when is the craft beer bubble going to burst?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 12, 2015, 01:57:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 12, 2015, 01:46:08 pm
The question is, when is the craft beer bubble going to burst?


been thinking that for awhile

I think the market that is going to be hot is selling slightly used brewery equipment

I predict that in 2 years time at least 100 (if not 500) of these small operations are just going to go belly up and they will need to sell all this brand new equipment at fire sale prices to pay the bank for their 5mil loans
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 12, 2015, 03:04:10 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on June 12, 2015, 01:44:55 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 12, 2015, 01:16:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 12, 2015, 11:18:52 am
Taking a look at the head brewer's resume makes me think there's going to be yet another beer reason to head down to Richmond.

http://www.richmond.com/business/local/article_8694f1d8-73a2-56b3-850e-bed43937bcc4.html?TNNoMobile

shit you're not kidding.  ISO
Is this the actual Heady Topper guy or just an apprentice? Scott's Addition is blowing up with breweries right now.

apprentice
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 12, 2015, 06:28:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 12, 2015, 01:46:08 pm
The question is, when is the craft beer bubble going to burst?

when 3 stars goes out of business, you can pretty much consider that the bell toll.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 16, 2015, 02:54:59 pm
surprised this hasn't been done previously: https://youtu.be/OUY5QMvLxoA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 17, 2015, 06:31:23 pm
I could understand if they pulled this beer because it sucks. But pulling it because of the name? That just makes us look as bad as some other countries of the world...

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2015/06/15/duclaws-sweet-baby-jesus-beer-pulled-from-shelves.html

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 19, 2015, 01:13:55 pm
We're headed to ST Petersburg for a little vacation and by the looks of this, we're going about four months too early.

http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/festival/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 19, 2015, 05:26:27 pm
The best American gose beers. The got #1 right.

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/06/blind-tasting-and-ranking-12-of-the-best-american.html?utm_source=PMNL&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=150619

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 20, 2015, 01:27:41 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 17, 2015, 06:31:23 pm
I could understand if they pulled this beer because it sucks. But pulling it because of the name? That just makes us look as bad as some other countries of the world...

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2015/06/15/duclaws-sweet-baby-jesus-beer-pulled-from-shelves.html



So Lately I've been digging porters and I had this once before and wasn't blown away
but was at the RNRhotel and said why not, even against James recommendations
Well the beer was...yes mediocre and a little fizzy

but the highlight was the hot inked barmaid going to the register and clicking on the SWEET BJ button
kinda made it worth it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 20, 2015, 01:26:30 pm
heads-up homebrewers: next year's national homebrewer's conference (NHC 2016) will be in baltimore!  june 9-11.  those who homebrew should seriously consider attending.  those of you who don't brew should start ;D

i just came back from this year's edition in san diego (http://www.ahaconference.org/) and it was a complete, utter blast.  got to SD 2 days in advance and soaked up the beer scene.  then it was off to the conference where it was 3 days of seminars, vendor expo, beer, beer and more beer.  at Pro night, vinnie cirlurzo served 2012 Beatification from a 3 liter magnum (i went from Sour in the Rye --> Consecration --> Council Beatitude on blueberries --> Beatification... what a run).  club night was wild as always - tasted so many amazing sours.  thanks for SD's amazing weather, both pro night and club night were held outdoors under the moon and palms.  what a setup for a night of great beer.

brought back a suitcase full of:
- FW Stickee Monkee
- Stone Enjoy After 7.04.16
- Monkish Selah
- Old Guardian 2010
- Modern Times Mega Black House
- Old Numbskull & Speedway Stout (cheap!)

i miss my beercation...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 20, 2015, 01:30:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 17, 2015, 06:31:23 pm
I could understand if they pulled this beer because it sucks.

SBJ really does suck.  first time i got a 6-pack, i assumed i got an infected back - no one would brew this on purpose, i told myself.  alas, apparently it's not a mistake.  my brain still can't process this factoid: "The beer accounts for 35 percent to 40 percent of DuClaw?s sales, making it the company?s most popular beer".  the mind boggles.
 
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 20, 2015, 01:27:41 am
but the highlight was the hot inked barmaid going to the register and clicking on the SWEET BJ button
kinda made it worth it

lol.  this might almost get me to order one.

almost.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 20, 2015, 01:42:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2015, 01:13:55 pm
We're headed to ST Petersburg for a little vacation and by the looks of this, we're going about four months too early.

http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/festival/



fuck shelton brothers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 22, 2015, 09:09:47 am
This article (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/12/meet-the-beer-bottle-dictator.html) was trending on reddit this morning about a guy who is basically the de facto czar of beer bottle labeling in America. Interesting read.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 22, 2015, 11:43:09 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 20, 2015, 01:42:43 pm
fuck shelton brothers

why?  what's up with them?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 22, 2015, 11:55:12 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 22, 2015, 11:43:09 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 20, 2015, 01:42:43 pm
fuck shelton brothers

why?  what's up with them?
I'm not sure either...but love their tag ling

?Is it a coincidence that

there are Three Stooges

and also Three Shelton Brothers??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 22, 2015, 01:05:33 pm
shelton is the exclusive distributor for several european beers, including Cantillon.  some folks are upset with the distribution of these beers... is that it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 22, 2015, 03:15:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 22, 2015, 01:05:33 pm
shelton is the exclusive distributor for several european beers, including Cantillon.  some folks are upset with the distribution of these beers... is that it?

thats it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 22, 2015, 03:21:34 pm
there infrequent distribution, their east to west strategy (we typically get what you guys dont want), and pretty much everything they distribute is high $ per oz. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 22, 2015, 08:58:51 pm
Heading to Charleston SC for a little RnR with out the kidos (rest and relaxation not rock and roll)
quite the beer city, looking for some recommendations
Westbrook Brewing  (http://westbrookbrewing.com/)was already on the list to try their gose

But all these other options too
http://revelrybrewingco.com (http://revelrybrewingco.com)
http://freehousebeer.com (http://freehousebeer.com)
www.coastbrewing.com/ (http://www.coastbrewing.com/)
http://frothybeard.com (http://frothybeard.com)
http://www.holycitybrewing.com (http://www.holycitybrewing.com)
http://tradesmanbrewing.com (http://tradesmanbrewing.com)
http://www.palmettobrewery.com (http://www.palmettobrewery.com)


these two places seem pretty spectacular http://www.closed4business.com (http://www.closed4business.com) &http://edmundsoast.com (http://edmundsoast.com)
this site is a great listing http://beerofsc.com (http://beerofsc.com) of what's available in the state, but don't plan on going further than a cab ride from Charleston


Also any other non-beer must dos would be appreciated 

Might put a rose at The Emanuel A.M.E. Church in a show of unity

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 22, 2015, 09:49:34 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 20, 2015, 01:42:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2015, 01:13:55 pm
We're headed to ST Petersburg for a little vacation and by the looks of this, we're going about four months too early.

http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/festival/



fuck shelton brothers


From the Shelton Bro's FB Page: "Love Cantillon? Then listen up! Not only will Jean be at The Festival again this year, pouring all sorts of goodies and being his charming self, but he's also doing something totally new and pretty awesome: He's bringing his unique Festival Blend of Gueuze, along with the lambics that went into it. The one-, two-, and three-year lambics will be available individually so you can try different combinations and blend your own, then compare it to Jean's blend of the same lambics. Think of it as a choose-your-own-adventure guide to Gueuze. This will be available at EVERY SESSION, but once it's gone, it's gone."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 22, 2015, 09:50:46 pm
I haven't been the Charleston, but I've read that Coast is the second best brewery to check out in Chareston.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 22, 2015, 09:55:45 pm
We're down in St Petersburg right now. I thought Jai Alai was the best IPA in Florida, until I had this one....which may be the best single IPA I've ever had.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22147/114831/

We've stopped at Rapp, 7venth Sun, and Cycle so far. All Excellent. Also headed to Coppertail, Angry Chair, and of course Cigar City, all in Tampa.

Then I head to Wisconsin on Sunday for work and of course have to drive to New Glarus...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 23, 2015, 10:32:18 am
Feel free to pack an entire suitcase full of New Glarus fruit beers, I'll take them all off your hands!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 23, 2015, 11:48:42 am
Thanks for this - very helpful - we are headed to Kiawah on Saturday for the week and plan on spending time in Charleston

Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 22, 2015, 08:58:51 pm
Heading to Charleston SC for a little RnR with out the kidos (rest and relaxation not rock and roll)
quite the beer city, looking for some recommendations
Westbrook Brewing  (http://westbrookbrewing.com/)was already on the list to try their gose

But all these other options too
http://revelrybrewingco.com (http://revelrybrewingco.com)
http://freehousebeer.com (http://freehousebeer.com)
www.coastbrewing.com/ (http://www.coastbrewing.com/)
http://frothybeard.com (http://frothybeard.com)
http://www.holycitybrewing.com (http://www.holycitybrewing.com)
http://tradesmanbrewing.com (http://tradesmanbrewing.com)
http://www.palmettobrewery.com (http://www.palmettobrewery.com)


these two places seem pretty spectacular http://www.closed4business.com (http://www.closed4business.com) &http://edmundsoast.com (http://edmundsoast.com)
this site is a great listing http://beerofsc.com (http://beerofsc.com) of what's available in the state, but don't plan on going further than a cab ride from Charleston


Also any other non-beer must dos would be appreciated 

Might put a rose at The Emanuel A.M.E. Church in a show of unity


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 24, 2015, 09:41:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 23, 2015, 10:32:18 am
Feel free to pack an entire suitcase full of New Glarus fruit beers, I'll take them all off your hands!

I do plan to fill the suitcase whose transport is being paid for by my employer with 50 pounds of New Glarus beers. Minus the weight if the suitcase.

Now you just need to host a 9:30 Forum bottle share and invite us and I will bring copious amounts of NG. ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on June 25, 2015, 03:07:26 pm
Not beer, but go to Jestine's Kitchen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2015, 02:37:13 pm
Freshly canned Solar Abyss from DC Brau is quite delicious... better than any recent Wings I've had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on June 29, 2015, 08:28:28 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 10:01:49 am
Drinking two glasses of Wisconsin Belgian Red at New Glarus on Sunday was like a religious experience for this beer geek. Fortunately, it didn't inspire me to shoot up a beach full of tourists.

Brought home some goodies from New Glarus and Toppling Goliath, yesssireee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 30, 2015, 12:47:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 10:01:49 am
Drinking two glasses of Wisconsin Belgian Red at New Glarus on Sunday was like a religious experience for this beer geek. Fortunately, it didn't inspire me to shoot up a beach full of tourists.

Brought home some goodies from New Glarus and Toppling Goliath, yesssireee.

oh cool you're back to making discriminatory remarks against religion great thats my favorite
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2015, 12:56:25 pm
a few years ago i was traveling to WI regularly just as i was getting into beer.  too bad my beer geekness didn't kick in in time for me to get on the NG train.  i did have their Spotted Cow and one other standard offering that i can't name at the moment, both were solid.

Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 12:47:10 pm
oh cool you're back to making discriminatory remarks against religion great thats my favorite

just one religion in particular...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 03:31:22 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 12:47:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 10:01:49 am
Drinking two glasses of Wisconsin Belgian Red at New Glarus on Sunday was like a religious experience for this beer geek. Fortunately, it didn't inspire me to shoot up a beach full of tourists.

Brought home some goodies from New Glarus and Toppling Goliath, yesssireee.

oh cool you're back to making discriminatory remarks against religion great thats my favorite

I fail to see how that comment can be construed as a "discriminatory remark against religion" but as long as religion has no problem in saying that nonbelievers are going to burn in hell, I have no problem saying bad things about the fairy tales that people believe in.

And in regard to referencing one particular religion, i'm only picking on the one that inspires it's believers to kill in it's name.

If I say that there is one US political party that is more filled with anti-gay, racist climate deniers than the other party, am I being discriminatory against that party?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 30, 2015, 04:35:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 03:31:22 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 12:47:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 10:01:49 am
Drinking two glasses of Wisconsin Belgian Red at New Glarus on Sunday was like a religious experience for this beer geek. Fortunately, it didn't inspire me to shoot up a beach full of tourists.

Brought home some goodies from New Glarus and Toppling Goliath, yesssireee.

oh cool you're back to making discriminatory remarks against religion great thats my favorite

I fail to see how that comment can be construed as a "discriminatory remark against religion" but as long as religion has no problem in saying that nonbelievers are going to burn in hell, I have no problem saying bad things about the fairy tales that people believe in.

And in regard to referencing one particular religion, i'm only picking on the one that inspires it's believers to kill in it's name.

If I say that there is one US political party that is more filled with anti-gay, racist climate deniers than the other party, am I being discriminatory against that party?

its a thread about beer on a forum about a music venue. your comments are misplaced at best and it's not worth discussing whether they have any merit or not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 30, 2015, 04:45:07 pm
so back on topic...

i've got the sour train running at home.  letting my wild saison sit in a corny keg for 6+ months, and then I think i'll bottle half, age the other half in a 3 gal corny keg with some fruit for a couple more months.  had a recent splurge on some kegs for aging beer because i realized that plastic is disposable, glass is difficult to transport, and kegs hold their value along with being very sturdy/easy to transport.  it really is the perfect vessel for storing beer.

also about to rack off my portion of my barrel-aged sour that's been aging in a chardonnay barrel for 12 months now.  will brew an oud bruin for that barrel next (Jamil's oud bruin recipe).

also! got a hop-bursted IPA that i'm cold crashing now, will dry-hop tomorrow, and real excited to taste that batch.  i've been using US-05 for all my IPAs for the past 2 years, and while i really can't speak highly enough about that yeast, i gave london ale III a shot after hearing all the hype about how it produces that vermont-style IPA flavor.   i'll report back with results when it's ready.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2015, 05:14:24 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 04:45:07 pm
so back on topic...

i've got the sour train running at home.  letting my wild saison sit in a corny keg for 6+ months, and then I think i'll bottle half, age the other half in a 3 gal corny keg with some fruit for a couple more months.  had a recent splurge on some kegs for aging beer because i realized that plastic is disposable, glass is difficult to transport, and kegs hold their value along with being very sturdy/easy to transport.  it really is the perfect vessel for storing beer.

also about to rack off my portion of my barrel-aged sour that's been aging in a chardonnay barrel for 12 months now.  will brew an oud bruin for that barrel next (Jamil's oud bruin recipe).

also! got a hop-bursted IPA that i'm cold crashing now, will dry-hop tomorrow, and real excited to taste that batch.  i've been using US-05 for all my IPAs for the past 2 years, and while i really can't speak highly enough about that yeast, i gave london ale III a shot after hearing all the hype about how it produces that vermont-style IPA flavor.   i'll report back with results when it's ready.

I had two miller high lifes last night!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 05:21:24 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 04:35:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 03:31:22 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 12:47:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 10:01:49 am
Drinking two glasses of Wisconsin Belgian Red at New Glarus on Sunday was like a religious experience for this beer geek. Fortunately, it didn't inspire me to shoot up a beach full of tourists.

Brought home some goodies from New Glarus and Toppling Goliath, yesssireee.

oh cool you're back to making discriminatory remarks against religion great thats my favorite

I fail to see how that comment can be construed as a "discriminatory remark against religion" but as long as religion has no problem in saying that nonbelievers are going to burn in hell, I have no problem saying bad things about the fairy tales that people believe in.

And in regard to referencing one particular religion, i'm only picking on the one that inspires it's believers to kill in it's name.

If I say that there is one US political party that is more filled with anti-gay, racist climate deniers than the other party, am I being discriminatory against that party?

its a thread about beer on a forum about a music venue. your comments are misplaced at best and it's not worth discussing whether they have any merit or not.

Wow, just wow. The politically correct thought police that is the American educational system taught you frighteningly well.

I started the thread, I say jokes and digressions are allowed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2015, 05:48:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2015, 05:14:24 pm
I had two miller high lifes last night!

Me too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 30, 2015, 05:48:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2015, 05:14:24 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 04:45:07 pm
so back on topic...

i've got the sour train running at home.  letting my wild saison sit in a corny keg for 6+ months, and then I think i'll bottle half, age the other half in a 3 gal corny keg with some fruit for a couple more months.  had a recent splurge on some kegs for aging beer because i realized that plastic is disposable, glass is difficult to transport, and kegs hold their value along with being very sturdy/easy to transport.  it really is the perfect vessel for storing beer.

also about to rack off my portion of my barrel-aged sour that's been aging in a chardonnay barrel for 12 months now.  will brew an oud bruin for that barrel next (Jamil's oud bruin recipe).

also! got a hop-bursted IPA that i'm cold crashing now, will dry-hop tomorrow, and real excited to taste that batch.  i've been using US-05 for all my IPAs for the past 2 years, and while i really can't speak highly enough about that yeast, i gave london ale III a shot after hearing all the hype about how it produces that vermont-style IPA flavor.   i'll report back with results when it's ready.

I had two miller high lifes last night!

forgot to check em in, bro!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 30, 2015, 05:50:52 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 05:21:24 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 04:35:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 03:31:22 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 12:47:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 10:01:49 am
Drinking two glasses of Wisconsin Belgian Red at New Glarus on Sunday was like a religious experience for this beer geek. Fortunately, it didn't inspire me to shoot up a beach full of tourists.

Brought home some goodies from New Glarus and Toppling Goliath, yesssireee.

oh cool you're back to making discriminatory remarks against religion great thats my favorite

I fail to see how that comment can be construed as a "discriminatory remark against religion" but as long as religion has no problem in saying that nonbelievers are going to burn in hell, I have no problem saying bad things about the fairy tales that people believe in.

And in regard to referencing one particular religion, i'm only picking on the one that inspires it's believers to kill in it's name.

If I say that there is one US political party that is more filled with anti-gay, racist climate deniers than the other party, am I being discriminatory against that party?

its a thread about beer on a forum about a music venue. your comments are misplaced at best and it's not worth discussing whether they have any merit or not.

Wow, just wow. The politically correct thought police that is the American educational system taught you frighteningly well.

I started the thread, I say jokes and digressions are allowed.

OK.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2015, 10:45:49 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 22, 2015, 08:58:51 pm
Heading to Charleston SC for a little RnR with out the kidos (rest and relaxation not rock and roll)
quite the beer city, looking for some recommendations
Westbrook Brewing  (http://westbrookbrewing.com/)was already on the list to try their gose

But all these other options too
http://revelrybrewingco.com (http://revelrybrewingco.com)
http://freehousebeer.com (http://freehousebeer.com)
www.coastbrewing.com/ (http://www.coastbrewing.com/)
http://frothybeard.com (http://frothybeard.com)
http://www.holycitybrewing.com (http://www.holycitybrewing.com)
http://tradesmanbrewing.com (http://tradesmanbrewing.com)
http://www.palmettobrewery.com (http://www.palmettobrewery.com)


these two places seem pretty spectacular http://www.closed4business.com (http://www.closed4business.com) &http://edmundsoast.com (http://edmundsoast.com)
this site is a great listing http://beerofsc.com (http://beerofsc.com) of what's available in the state, but don't plan on going further than a cab ride from Charleston


Also any other non-beer must dos would be appreciated 
Well, I am happy to say I drank nothing but local beer on my recent visit to 'the Holy City'
Everything I had from Freehouse and Revelry were great.  I wish I'd ordered more when I had the chance.  Didn't realize which ones would be hard to get at first and I would have waited on the Holy City, Palmetto and Westbrook until later in my trip?as those three were fairly common and I had to do a few repeats in my drunken saga of a long weekend.  It was really great to go in every establishment in and out of the city to find they had local brews on tap or in cans/bottles (One exception was a great Italian place called Monza?went with a Chianti as to stay true to my cause?but man that pork belly made it worth it!)

Sadly didn't make it to any brewery or distillery (was a block from High Wire Distilling)  On the two trips to Sullivan's island, I was able to find some of the best beers on Tap.  Food was top notch everywhere, one of my favorites wasn't even a meat dish, but a Beet Salad with house made ricotta at The Obstinate Daughter. 
Bar's definitely worth going to: Closed for Business, Prohibition (although not for beer) the back porch at Barsa (also quite literally the back of our apartment), Rooftop drinks at Henry's House, deck drinks at Salt @ station 22. 



My top picks were
Freehouse's Ashley Farmhouse Ale - Lots of flavor in that glass with a touch of sour with that citrusy syrupy saison feel
Westbrook's Gose - very good and very drinkable.  Has some tart with salt and citrus that would turn some off, but I could see having a 3 or 4 of these on the back porch watching the sun set.  Never thought of sour beers as refreshing summer beers, but this one definitely is.  Obviously... I need to try more Gose
Holy City's Pluff Mud Porter (on tap) this was delicious.  Got a 6 pack of the can's and it's just not the same.

White Thai, 32°/50°, Palmetto's Pale Ale and Washout Wheat were some of the best beers to drink on the deck with the sun up. Charleston really has a lot of delicious light beers available.

The Setlist(but not in order):

Holy City's Pluff Mud - American porter     
Holy City's Washout Wheat - Hefeweizen
Holy City's Chucktown Follicle Brown - American Brown Ale

Coast's 32°/50°  - Kölsch
Coast's HopArt - IPA

Palmetto's Amber - amber lager
Palmetto's Pale Ale - American Pale Ale
Palmetto's ?Hootie?s Homegrown? Ale - Blonde Ale: the third installment in the Rock Brothers Brewing line of artist inspired craft beers. We teamed up with Hootie & the Blowfish, Cigar City and Palmetto Brewing to bring you a refreshing, light, but complex craft beer.

Westbrook's Gose - German-style sour wheat beer brewed with coriander and salt
Westbrook's White Thai - is a twist on the classic Belgian witbier style w/lemongrass, ginger root and a dash of Sorachi Ace hops
Westbrook's IPA - IPA

Freehouse's Ashley Farmhouse Ale - A dry Belgian-style saison.

Revelry's Gullah - Cream Ale:  Revelry took the classic ?lawnmower? beer and turned it into something quintessentially Southern by using South Carolina grits (15% of the total grist)
Revelry's Welcome, This Is A Farmhouse - American Farmhouse

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Might put a rose at The Emanuel A.M.E. Church in a show of unity
I picked an odd weekend to be there.  I started drinking a little early on Friday and ended up in Closed for Business about 30 minutes before the President delivered the eulogy for Reverend Clementa C. Pinckney.  I knew he was in town, but hadn't really planed on watching it.

Being in Charleston, less than 5 blocks from where the massacre happened 10 days before and sharing that moment with Charlestonians was a memorable experience.   I'm not going to lie, I shed a tear while watching that with the locals.  The bar was pretty hopping for a mid day, but for 30 minutes you could hear a pin drop. He really did knock it out of the park... at least from where I was watching it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 01, 2015, 11:32:20 am
Finally stopped at Carton on the way to the Jersey Shore last weekend. 0077XX is probably the best IPA the state of New Jersey has to offer, so I was glad they were selling that along with Dune Fruit at the brewery. Speaking of which, Dune Fruit is a kickass beach beer - not anything earth-shattering, but between the low ABV and hints of cucumber, it's a solid summertime sour.

I'm taking a week off between jobs so I'm trying to debate how I can fill that stretch. Debating a trip to Vermont but I doubt my 13 year-old, broken-AC car will make it up there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2015, 12:05:05 pm
sounds like an awesome trip to charleston.  hearing obama's speech there must have been intense.  would have loved to experience that.

Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on June 30, 2015, 10:45:49 pm
Never thought of sour beers as refreshing summer beers, but this one definitely is.  Obviously... I need to try more Gose

for me, thirst-quenching summer drinks is exactly what most sours are.  it's a shame that sours tend to be expensive because a big glass of gueuze, kriek, etc. is perfect on a hot day.  hard to appreciate how sessionable a sour can be when you're charged $10+ for an 8 oz pour.  (solution: brew your own and drink them by the bomber ;D)

luckily gose and berliner wiesse are easier & faster to make so their prices are typically closer to clean (non-sour) beers.  but their sourness is one-dimensional IMO.  they have lactic tartness but no brett funk.

the missus, who until recently has been firmly opposed to sours, is starting to turn the corner.  their refreshing taste on a hot day is exactly what got her to start appreciating them... sometimes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 02, 2015, 08:15:54 am
Nice recap sidehatch
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2015, 08:38:37 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 01, 2015, 12:05:05 pm
brett funk.
Can we keep WWE to the killsaly's nerd crap thread?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 08:42:00 am
At the risk of digressing from a beer thread on a music chatboard  ;), is there anything to do in Charleston other than eat Southern food and go to the beach? I've thought about vacationing down there, but there doesn't seem to be enough interesting things to do in the area. What am I missing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 02, 2015, 08:45:59 am
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g54171-Activities-Charleston_South_Carolina.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 02, 2015, 10:57:42 am
Charleston: Food, Beer and people are great.  Super friendly and somewhat cosmopolitan residents surrounded by the south (kind of like New Orleans in that sense) Struck up conversations with so many locals  and never walked away with a frown or bad interaction
Also, like most cities (vs suburbs) the people were beautiful.  Not sure what they do with all the fat and ugly people (and if you do see them, you know they are tourists)
Definitely a hipster vibe going on with the tat's, beard and fixie bikes.

The Food and Beer alone really were worth it on their own.  Not having the kids made that part really enjoyable as we didn't have to go to restaurants that cater to kids and could stop in any bar we walked past

I got a few long bike rides in, very flat, but bike friendly and being able to cross the Ravenel bridge was especially nice

It is a great walking city, was clocking in 4-6 miles a day

We visited a plantation, which was cool as we got to see lots of wildlife and gardens in a very pastoral setting (not focusing on the slave part of it)

The music scene is somewhat lacking, but did hear a great country swing band one night

It's not quite a beach town, but the surrounding areas are.

I've heard there is some great fishing too (not my bag)

There is some serious history there and even the religious stuff is interesting too (has a synagogue was founded in the 1740s)

The water is everywhere, so having access to a boat or even a Kayak would probably be awesome
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2015, 11:39:10 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 08:42:00 am
At the risk of digressing from a beer thread on a music chatboard  ;), is there anything to do in Charleston other than eat Southern food and go to the beach? I've thought about vacationing down there, but there doesn't seem to be enough interesting things to do in the area. What am I missing?

hey boss. i wasn't saying don't digress, i was just saying don't digress just to be an asshole.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 11:43:04 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 11:39:10 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 08:42:00 am
At the risk of digressing from a beer thread on a music chatboard  ;), is there anything to do in Charleston other than eat Southern food and go to the beach? I've thought about vacationing down there, but there doesn't seem to be enough interesting things to do in the area. What am I missing?

hey boss. i wasn't saying don't digress, i was just saying don't digress just to be an asshole.

I wasn't being an asshole. I guess you just didn't get my point.

It is worrisome that the youth of America scream the code words "racism", "bigotry" ,"discrimination" blah, blah, blah every time they hear something they don't like. To me, that's being an asshole.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 11:45:15 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on July 02, 2015, 08:45:59 am
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g54171-Activities-Charleston_South_Carolina.html

Thanks Walky (and Sidehatch). I've looked at all those on tripadvisor, while researching a Charleston vacation for my 70+ mom. Just didn't see a whole lot of stuff that was our bag. Different strokes for different folks, I reckon. Plenty of other places to go in the world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2015, 11:51:38 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 11:43:04 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 11:39:10 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 08:42:00 am
At the risk of digressing from a beer thread on a music chatboard  ;), is there anything to do in Charleston other than eat Southern food and go to the beach? I've thought about vacationing down there, but there doesn't seem to be enough interesting things to do in the area. What am I missing?

hey boss. i wasn't saying don't digress, i was just saying don't digress just to be an asshole.

I wasn't being an asshole. I guess you just didn't get my point.

It is worrisome that the youth of America scream the code words "racism", "bigotry" ,"discrimination" blah, blah, blah every time they hear something they don't like. To me, that's being an asshole.

maybe print this page out and go talk to your daughters principal or something.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 12:13:15 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 12:47:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 10:01:49 am
Drinking two glasses of Wisconsin Belgian Red at New Glarus on Sunday was like a religious experience for this beer geek. Fortunately, it didn't inspire me to shoot up a beach full of tourists.

Brought home some goodies from New Glarus and Toppling Goliath, yesssireee.

oh cool you're back to making discriminatory remarks against religion great thats my favorite

To review, here is what was said, above.

My point was I had what I considered to be a religious experience. A religious experience that didn't include killing people in the name of my god, BEER. Which is what happens with some religious people. who kill in the name of their god, QQQ.

In what way is that being "discriminatory against religion"? Please do tell me.

If you had used the phrase "critical of religion" I would completely agree with you. As someone who believes in science and thought and reason, I would say that it's perfectly reasonable to be critical of religious thought. Just as a person who leans liberal, it's perfectly reasonable that I would be critical of conservative ideology. And it seems perfectly reasonable to mock both.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2015, 12:32:00 pm
You know, I will say in Rhett's defense, the fact that his comment was automatically assumed to be about a certain religion without him saying anything about that religion sort of makes his point for him.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on July 02, 2015, 12:35:40 pm
Well, it was so obvious that he was talking about the Jews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 12:41:51 pm
Quote from: ggw on July 02, 2015, 12:35:40 pm
Well, it was so obvious that he was talking about the Jews.

Only the Jews who are killing in the name of their religion.

Anyway, 40 cases of Solar Abyss just dropped at P Street Whole Foods. If I weren't so busy and didn't already have too much beer, I'd go grab a sixer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2015, 01:07:35 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 12:13:15 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on June 30, 2015, 12:47:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2015, 10:01:49 am
Drinking two glasses of Wisconsin Belgian Red at New Glarus on Sunday was like a religious experience for this beer geek. Fortunately, it didn't inspire me to shoot up a beach full of tourists.

Brought home some goodies from New Glarus and Toppling Goliath, yesssireee.

oh cool you're back to making discriminatory remarks against religion great thats my favorite

To review, here is what was said, above.

My point was I had what I considered to be a religious experience. A religious experience that didn't include killing people in the name of my god, BEER. Which is what happens with some religious people. who kill in the name of their god, QQQ.

In what way is that being "discriminatory against religion"? Please do tell me.

If you had used the phrase "critical of religion" I would completely agree with you. As someone who believes in science and thought and reason, I would say that it's perfectly reasonable to be critical of religious thought. Just as a person who leans liberal, it's perfectly reasonable that I would be critical of conservative ideology. And it seems perfectly reasonable to mock both.

what part of what I said was inaccurate?

Discrimatory - characterized by or showing prejudicial treatment, especially as an indication of bias related to age, color, national origin, religion, sex, etc.

You have a long history of saying remarks against religion. Didn't you get banned for it?

let me know what your daughters principal says! Us youth need saving from out of touch white men like yourself. (Something isn't discrimatory if it's true, right?)

Edit: spelling


 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2015, 01:11:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 02, 2015, 12:32:00 pm
You know, I will say in Rhett's defense, the fact that his comment was automatically assumed to be about a certain religion without him saying anything about that religion sort of makes his point for him.

yeah, I hear that, but it doesn't make it right or even worth saying.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:29:52 pm
Discrimination is the prejudicial treatment of an individual based on his/her membership (or perceived membership) in a certain group or category, and involves actual actions taken towards that individual.

What individual am I showing prejudicial treatment toward with my statement?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:30:49 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 01:11:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 02, 2015, 12:32:00 pm
You know, I will say in Rhett's defense, the fact that his comment was automatically assumed to be about a certain religion without him saying anything about that religion sort of makes his point for him.

yeah, I hear that, but it doesn't make it right or even worth saying.

Who made you the judge and jury over what is "right and worth saying"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2015, 01:39:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:30:49 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 01:11:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 02, 2015, 12:32:00 pm
You know, I will say in Rhett's defense, the fact that his comment was automatically assumed to be about a certain religion without him saying anything about that religion sort of makes his point for him.

yeah, I hear that, but it doesn't make it right or even worth saying.

Who made you the judge and jury over what is "right and worth saying"

nobody man. say whatever you want. keep jamming you're anti-religious bullshit in wherever you can, you're doing great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:41:24 pm
And isn't being a member of most religions inherently showing bias? As in, my religion follows the real God, if you don't believe in my religion, you're going to burn in hell or kill all infidels.

Those are paraphrases, not quotes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on July 02, 2015, 01:43:12 pm
I think we have to cut Space some slack.  He's very upset about TV Land pulling the Dukes of Hazzard off the air.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:43:40 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 01:39:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:30:49 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 01:11:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 02, 2015, 12:32:00 pm
You know, I will say in Rhett's defense, the fact that his comment was automatically assumed to be about a certain religion without him saying anything about that religion sort of makes his point for him.

yeah, I hear that, but it doesn't make it right or even worth saying.

Who made you the judge and jury over what is "right and worth saying"

nobody man. say whatever you want. keep jamming you're anti-religious bullshit in wherever you can, you're doing great.

As an atheist, I feel that you are discriminating against me for calling my views "bullshit".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2015, 01:45:05 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:29:52 pm
Discrimination is the prejudicial treatment of an individual based on his/her membership (or perceived membership) in a certain group or category, and involves actual actions taken towards that individual.

What individual am I showing prejudicial treatment toward with my statement?

I'm not really interested in debating semantics, but you have appeared to have found the definition of "discrimination", the noun, and it appears you chose the second definition. just like those who watch FOX news, we can all find something that justifies our ignorance and hatred.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:45:51 pm
Quote from: ggw on July 02, 2015, 01:43:12 pm
I think we have to cut Space some slack.  He's very upset about TV Land pulling the Dukes of Hazzard off the air.

Thanks ggw. Very insightful. That's probably it. While I abhor much of what that flag stands for, pulling such a beloved tv show is just wrong.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2015, 01:46:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:43:40 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 01:39:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:30:49 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 01:11:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 02, 2015, 12:32:00 pm
You know, I will say in Rhett's defense, the fact that his comment was automatically assumed to be about a certain religion without him saying anything about that religion sort of makes his point for him.

yeah, I hear that, but it doesn't make it right or even worth saying.

Who made you the judge and jury over what is "right and worth saying"

nobody man. say whatever you want. keep jamming you're anti-religious bullshit in wherever you can, you're doing great.

As an atheist, I feel that you are discriminating against me for calling my views "bullshit".

I'm fine with that
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2015, 01:47:05 pm
People, people, can't you all put your differences aside and get back to discussing the vile swill you drink?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:52:39 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 01:45:05 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 01:29:52 pm
Discrimination is the prejudicial treatment of an individual based on his/her membership (or perceived membership) in a certain group or category, and involves actual actions taken towards that individual.

What individual am I showing prejudicial treatment toward with my statement?

I'm not really interested in debating semantics, but you have appeared to have found the definition of "discrimination", the verb, and it appears you chose the second definition. just like those who watch FOX news, we can all find something that justifies our ignorance and hatred.


So are you saying all people who watch Fox News are bad? It seems that you're the one doing the discriminating in that case, at least by your definition. (FWIW, I don't have cable.)

Are you saying that all religious thought is equal? Because that seems silly. If all religious thought were equal, why would people choose to be one religion over another? There are differences between religions, and people are allowed to have positive or negative opinions about diffferent religions without being called a "bigot".

What is discrimination is saying that one religion is the right religion, and that those who are not that religion should be discriminated against. That happens in many secular-based governments in other parts of the world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2015, 02:16:56 pm
Don't care
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2015, 03:13:52 pm
uhh... beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2015, 05:01:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 02, 2015, 03:13:52 pm
uhh... beer?

yes please
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 05:20:13 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 05:01:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 02, 2015, 03:13:52 pm
uhh... beer?

yes please

I'm drinking New Glarus Wisconsin Belgian Red from a bottle tonight....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 02, 2015, 09:55:47 pm
my gay lover, is addicted to that dumb, banana bread beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 03, 2015, 07:30:22 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 05:20:13 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 05:01:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 02, 2015, 03:13:52 pm
uhh... beer?

yes please

I'm drinking New Glarus Wisconsin Belgian Red from a bottle tonight....

I'm drinking Allagash White tonight...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 06, 2015, 02:49:18 pm
I won't try to quote Sidehatchs excellent write up but I too enjoyed many excellent local beers in Charleston and Kiawah over the last week - we really only made it to downtown Charleston on Thursday afternoon - hit up Westbrook and Coast - Westbrook is huge and judging by all the construction looks like they are doubling in size - nicest surprise of the Westbrook trip was discovering they still had Mexican cake for sale in their tasting room  ;D ;D ;D ;D Also picked up some gose there. The beer on tap at the tasting room were good not great, an "imperial" gose, a berliner weise and old ale and a rye pale ale. Interestingly, based on my nonscientific sample of 3 or 4 liqour stores around Kiawah the Westbrook gose was impossible to find but all stores had plenty of their Witbier and IPA

Coast was awesome - vibe much more reminiscent of some of the smaller DC breweries - literally everything on tap was excellent with special kudos to their Boy King DIPA and their BA Stout Blackbeerd - small space - cool staff - cheap beer, nice locals hanging drinking beer and playing cornhole

Earlier in the week we had quickly hit up Tradesman brewing - nice people, tiny space, mediocire to decent beers

Also got to try various holy city, freehouse and palmetto beers at various watering holes in the area
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 06, 2015, 02:59:39 pm
At least 4 or 5 restaurants had Westbrook gose in can
but didn't really make it to any thing but the local bodega ...all they had was Holy City

Bummed I didn't hit the brewery tours...next time
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 06, 2015, 03:25:45 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 03, 2015, 07:30:22 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 02, 2015, 05:20:13 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on July 02, 2015, 05:01:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 02, 2015, 03:13:52 pm
uhh... beer?

yes please

I'm drinking New Glarus Wisconsin Belgian Red from a bottle tonight....

I'm drinking Allagash White tonight...

And of course Chimay Blue on the 4th.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 10, 2015, 03:00:24 pm
Nice lil' evening of CBS and KBS at City Tap House last night. KBS was still flowing nearly three hours into the event.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2015, 12:41:07 pm
dammit.

i may never get to taste CBS, despite it being my birthright.

dammit!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 11, 2015, 02:23:24 pm
ive had it.  who cares.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 11, 2015, 02:32:24 pm
Anyone got any thoughts on that bells planet series that's coming to a close?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 11, 2015, 03:05:21 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 11, 2015, 02:32:24 pm
Anyone got any thoughts on that bells planet series that's coming to a close?

The only one I've had is Uranus, and it was better then your anus.

Sorry, I had to.

Actually, it was very good. Not my favorite black IPA of all time, but i'd put it top 5.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 13, 2015, 03:21:45 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on July 11, 2015, 02:23:24 pm
ive had it.  who cares.

no you haven't.

Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 11, 2015, 02:32:24 pm
Anyone got any thoughts on that bells planet series that's coming to a close?

it won't be missed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 15, 2015, 09:10:51 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2015, 01:13:55 pm
We're headed to ST Petersburg for a little vacation and by the looks of this, we're going about four months too early.

http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/festival/



Brewery lineup now includes:

Hill Farmstead
 Westvleteren
 Cantillon
 Tree House
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2015, 02:46:20 pm
Hey DC residents.... DC State Fair 2015 - Homebrew Contest Entry Form  (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12_KqkuKqN56nGv-400lN1Wj7cL5ndtXZQZ7TSD-hsPM/viewform)

also for those deadhead, looks like they are keeping current with Prop 71 Best Bud Contest Entry Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1hJX01fdu7JxMb7E8Sfmrak_gG4NdF_NKX0OnYX-JkHg/viewform)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 16, 2015, 12:50:35 pm
looks like Stone Enjoy After 07.04.16 Brett IPA has hit DC.  at WF it's either the same price, or maybe a dollar more, than what i paid for my bottle that i bought from the Stone company store in san diego.  dammit.  i could have used that suitcase space for something else...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 17, 2015, 07:43:38 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 16, 2015, 12:50:35 pm
looks like Stone Enjoy After 07.04.16 Brett IPA has hit DC.  at WF it's either the same price, or maybe a dollar more, than what i paid for my bottle that i bought from the Stone company store in san diego.  dammit.  i could have used that suitcase space for something else...

How much did you pay for it? I got one in VA yesterday...it wasn't until I got home that I realized they had charged me a fair bit more than the usual Stone bomber price I was expecting. Also got a Williamsburg Cafe Royale, at about the regular price of a Stone bomber.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 17, 2015, 07:54:30 am
Duvel acquires Firestone Walker.

http://news.firestonebeer.com/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 17, 2015, 11:09:39 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 17, 2015, 07:54:30 am
Duvel acquires Firestone Walker.

http://news.firestonebeer.com/

wow, big news.  Duvel Mortaat hasn't effed up Ommegang nor Boulevard, so i'm hopeful.  as long as matt brynildson is still onboard, in Firestone i trust.

this might mean more FW for us folks outside of CA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 17, 2015, 12:10:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 17, 2015, 11:09:39 am


this might mean more FW for us folks outside of CA.
and that can only be a good thing
surprisingly I've found a few different types 6packs and bombers available in NOVA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 17, 2015, 12:13:15 pm
beer, makes you fat.  the end.  Julian, hates you.  the end, again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 17, 2015, 12:19:40 pm
 Drink a 6-Pack a Day & Still Get Six Pack Abs (http://www.truthaboutabs.com/drink-6-pack-get-lean.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 17, 2015, 12:22:18 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on July 17, 2015, 12:13:15 pm
beer, makes you fat.  the end.  Julian, hates you.  the end, again.
I feel like you have more to say. "The end"ing a thread is like converting to Judaism: you have to declare your intentions three times before its done.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 17, 2015, 01:33:23 pm
so this forbes author (http://www3.forbes.com/lifestyle/the-13-best-craft-beers-in-america/) sure likes some VT beer

I do love me some Supplication (miss being on the west coast ;(  )

the Hotel Vermont,  ?Hops and Malts of the Matter? package sounds like a good beercation destination
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 17, 2015, 01:42:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 17, 2015, 11:09:39 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 17, 2015, 07:54:30 am
Duvel acquires Firestone Walker.

http://news.firestonebeer.com/

wow, big news.  Duvel Mortaat hasn't effed up Ommegang nor Boulevard, so i'm hopeful.  as long as matt brynildson is still onboard, in Firestone i trust.

this might mean more FW for us folks outside of CA.

But you can get it here. I just enjoyed a 6'er of Easy Jack last weekend!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 17, 2015, 01:44:52 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 17, 2015, 01:42:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 17, 2015, 11:09:39 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 17, 2015, 07:54:30 am
Duvel acquires Firestone Walker.

http://news.firestonebeer.com/

wow, big news.  Duvel Mortaat hasn't effed up Ommegang nor Boulevard, so i'm hopeful.  as long as matt brynildson is still onboard, in Firestone i trust.

this might mean more FW for us folks outside of CA.

But you can get it here. I just enjoyed a 6'er of Easy Jack last weekend!

I think he means the rare stuff, in greater quantity. Not their core year rounds beers. But you probably knew that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 17, 2015, 03:48:25 pm
I had a beer at World of Beer in Reston today for lunch... Kind of a bright spot in burb' hell.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 18, 2015, 08:21:28 am
I'm going to Portland three weeks too late. Check out this draft list from Belmont Station the other day.

Today's list is live, and everything is pouring.

    Russian River 2010 Consecration
    Russian River 2010 Supplication
    Russian River 2010 Sanctification
    Russian River 2011 Temptation
    Crooked Stave Progenitor #2
    Crooked Stave Petite Sour Blueberry
    Crooked Stave Petite Sour Grapefruit Radler
    Crooked Stave Flor d'Lees
    Firestone Walker Bretta Weisse
    Firestone Walker Feral One
    Firestone Walker SLO-ambic
    Bend MC Session IPA
    New Belgium La Folie
    New Belgium Le Terroir
    Bell's Wild One
    Almanac Dogpatch Sour
    Bayerischer Bahnhof Goseator Tequila Barrel-aged Imperial Gose
    Dogfish Head Olde School Barleywine
    Maui Kilhei Kolsch
    Knee Deep Hop Shortage IIIPA
    Fort George 3-Way IPA
    Finnriver Barrel Berry Sour Cider
    Holy Mountain Pyrokinesis Dry-Hopped DIPA (Cask)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 21, 2015, 09:56:07 am
Hill Farmstead serving beer at Magna Ball!

https://twitter.com/HillFarmstead/status/623247533897326592

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 21, 2015, 11:46:26 am
Quote from: Yada on July 21, 2015, 09:56:07 am
Hill Farmstead serving beer at Magna Ball!

https://twitter.com/HillFarmstead/status/623247533897326592

is HF worth a weekend of Phish?  ouch.  what a choice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 21, 2015, 11:47:35 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 21, 2015, 11:46:26 am
is HF worth a weekend of Phish?  ouch.  what a choice.
Virtually nothing is worth a weekend of Phish.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 21, 2015, 11:52:08 am
(http://www.somegif.com/gifs/1387090179195622167.GIF)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 21, 2015, 12:22:07 pm
hopefully they will be serving some of these, also (http://www.beeradvocate.com/search/?q=wookie)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 22, 2015, 03:13:15 pm
Toppling Goliath porch bomb... New and improved Sue 12oz bottles! :o :o :o

(http://i.imgur.com/20C9AGMl.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 22, 2015, 03:40:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 22, 2015, 03:13:15 pm
Toppling Goliath porch bomb... New and improved Sue 12oz bottles! :o :o :o

(http://i.imgur.com/20C9AGMl.jpg)

Nice. Maybe the best hoppy beer I've had all year (Sue). I got a four pack and have one left. Broke one bottle before I even got it home. Almost think I should have brought home less New Glarus and more Sue. Though that's a tough call.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 22, 2015, 04:32:32 pm
I prefer the New Glarus fruit beers over Sue (two totally different options, but still my preference).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 27, 2015, 10:03:40 pm
This Virginia brewery is owned by former Oriole closer Chris Ray.

http://www.cotubrewing.com/our-beers/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 28, 2015, 09:32:21 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2015, 10:03:40 pm
This Virginia brewery is owned by former Oriole closer Chris Ray.

http://www.cotubrewing.com/our-beers/

based solely on the beers' names, i'm not impressed.  Pocahoptas?  and "Slingshot" has been used a million times...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 28, 2015, 09:39:32 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 28, 2015, 09:32:21 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2015, 10:03:40 pm
This Virginia brewery is owned by former Oriole closer Chris Ray.

http://www.cotubrewing.com/our-beers/

based solely on the beers' names, i'm not impressed.  Pocahoptas?  and "Slingshot" has been used a million times...
My friends in the area who frequent the Richmond-area craft breweries and stand in line for special releases hold this one in extremely low regard.

Supposedly if you want a (currently operable) RVA-area brewery to check out aside from Hardywood, which I assume you all know, Lickinghole Creek is what the beer aficionados are raving about. (Strangeways and Ardent are worth checking out too.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 28, 2015, 09:47:01 am
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 28, 2015, 09:39:32 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 28, 2015, 09:32:21 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2015, 10:03:40 pm
This Virginia brewery is owned by former Oriole closer Chris Ray.

http://www.cotubrewing.com/our-beers/

based solely on the beers' names, i'm not impressed.  Pocahoptas?  and "Slingshot" has been used a million times...
My friends in the area who frequent the Richmond-area craft breweries and stand in line for special releases hold this one in extremely low regard.

Supposedly if you want a (currently operable) RVA-area brewery to check out aside from Hardywood, which I assume you all know, Lickinghole Creek is what the beer aficionados are raving about. (Strangeways and Ardent are worth checking out too.)

I haven't been to Lickinghole Creek or tasted any of their beers, but I can say that they are great....just kidding. I'm hoping to make a trek there at some point, maybe this fall.

I hadn't heard anything about the COTU place, just though the Chris Ray connection was slightly interesting. Seems like the brewery itself may join the long list of not worth bothering with....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 28, 2015, 09:52:55 am
had a few  Lickinghole Creek's and they were decent at Copperwood Tavern
who carrys a surprisingly good list of only VA brews on tap

Drafts


 Champion, Killer Kolsch (VA)
 Devil's Backbone, Schwartz Bier (VA)
 Starr Hill, Jomo Lager (VA)
 Devil's Backbone, Gold Leaf (VA)
 Heritage, American Expedition (VA)
 Fair Winds, Howling Gale IPA (VA)
 Old Bust Head, Wildcat IPA (VA)
 Hoppocalypse, Imperial Red Ale (VA)
 3 Brothers, Hoptimization IPA (VA)
 3 Brothers, Great Outdoor Pale Ale (VA)
 Wild Wolf, Blonde Hunny Golden Ale (VA)
 Hardywood, Singel Belgian Ale (VA)
 Three Notch'd, No Veto English Brown (VA)
 Three Notch'd Hydraulion Irish Red (VA)
 Heritage, King's Mountain Scotch Ale (VA)
 Port City, Porter (VA)
 Old Ox, Seasonal (VA)
 Lickinghole Creek, Seasonal (VA)
 Hardywood, Seasonal (VA)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 28, 2015, 12:14:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 28, 2015, 09:39:32 am
My friends in the area who frequent the Richmond-area craft breweries and stand in line for special releases hold this one in extremely low regard.

Supposedly if you want a (currently operable) RVA-area brewery to check out aside from Hardywood, which I assume you all know, Lickinghole Creek is what the beer aficionados are raving about. (Strangeways and Ardent are worth checking out too.)

cool, thanks for the on-the-ground intel!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 30, 2015, 11:34:25 am
https://brewhaha2015.eventfarm.com/ (https://brewhaha2015.eventfarm.com/)

$65 for entrance in the BrewHaHa and all the beer, food and music you can handle. There will also be some passed hors d'oeuvres available

These are the  local breweries that they will be serving at this year's Brewhaha.



DC Brau - Washington, DC 

 Flying Dog Brewery - Frederick, MD 

Evolution Craft Brewing Company - Salisbury, MD 

Atlas Brew Works - Washington, DC 

Hellbender Brewing Company- Washington, DC 

Port City Brewing Company - Alexandria, VA 

Hardywood Park Craft Brewery - Richmond, VA 

Denizens Brewing Company - Silver Spring, MD 

Old Ox Brewery- Ashburn, VA 


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 30, 2015, 12:11:44 pm
heh, i didn't  know that DC beer week will be Aug. 9-15 (http://dcbeerweek.net/).  as it turns out, i'll be a bachelor that week so i might hit up a few events, and possibly even this Brewhaha thing.  has anyone ever been?  do the breweries just serve up their regular stuff?


Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on July 30, 2015, 11:34:25 am
all the.. food... you can handle. There will also be some passed hors d'oeuvres available

am i the only one confused by this statement?  will the passed hors d'oeuvres not be food?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 30, 2015, 03:11:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 30, 2015, 12:11:44 pm
heh, i didn't  know that DC beer week will be Aug. 9-15 (http://dcbeerweek.net/).  as it turns out, i'll be a bachelor that week so i might hit up a few events, and possibly even this Brewhaha thing.  has anyone ever been?  do the breweries just serve up their regular stuff?


Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on July 30, 2015, 11:34:25 am
all the.. food... you can handle. There will also be some passed hors d'oeuvres available

am i the only one confused by this statement?  are will the passed hors d'oeuvres not be food?

It seems like I'm *ALWAYS* out of town during DC Beer Week. But i'll be in Portland for three nights, Seattle for four, and in a tent in the backcountry for two. Somehow, I think my beer needs will be well served.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 30, 2015, 03:20:05 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 30, 2015, 03:11:33 pm
my beer needs
I have a program you might be interested in. It has all these steps. 12 of them, I think.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 30, 2015, 03:30:18 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on July 30, 2015, 03:20:05 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 30, 2015, 03:11:33 pm
my beer needs
I have a program you might be interested in. It has all these steps. 12 of them, I think.

Step one, out the door
Step two, get in car
Step Three, drive to Whole Foods
Step Four, purchase beer
Step Five, drive home
Step Six, Open beer
Step Seven, Drink Beer

I forget the other five
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 30, 2015, 03:32:18 pm
AB-InBev, we love you. Thanks for all that you do.

Thanks so much for doing away with BCBS four packs and replacing them with 16.9 ounce single bottles, with a $9.99 suggested retail. I'm sure most local retailers won't sell it at that price.


http://www.esquire.com/food-drink/drinks/news/a36791/bourbon-county-stouts-2015/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 30, 2015, 10:57:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 30, 2015, 03:32:18 pm
Thanks so much for doing away with BCBS four packs and replacing them with 16.9 ounce single bottles

dude.  you can't handle 12oz of 6% beer.  what the hell are you going to do with 17 oz of 13-14%?!?  that thing will last you a month.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 30, 2015, 11:59:29 pm
he splits the bottle with his wife and his three adopted kids, from Cambodia.  he is starting an in-bathroom brewery, called angkor pot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2015, 09:51:05 am
(http://img.huffingtonpost.com//asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/55ba98cc1400002f002e17ca.jpeg?cache=mvLa0VQ0UK)

but instead of one can it should say a 6 pack
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 31, 2015, 09:59:07 am
I had a Bell's Hopsolution and Founder's Double Trouble last night and thought both tasted like Pure Michigan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 04, 2015, 02:15:44 pm
http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/110-year-old-woman-drinks-miller-high-life-every-day?share=c
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 04, 2015, 02:40:34 pm
So new restaurant opened in the Hyatt in Tysons corner.

pretty impressive list of beers on tap
great outdoor patio too

http://hyatt.com/content/dam/Minisites/barrel-and-bushel/Menus/Barrel-And-Bushel-Beverage-Menu-072715.pdf (http://hyatt.com/content/dam/Minisites/barrel-and-bushel/Menus/Barrel-And-Bushel-Beverage-Menu-072715.pdf)

also best name for a flight
ALL ABOUT THE ABVS FLIGHT (D18,D19,D20,D21)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 04, 2015, 09:18:46 pm
thats pretty impressive in terms of showcasing local stuff

Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 04, 2015, 02:40:34 pm
So new restaurant opened in the Hyatt in Tysons corner.

pretty impressive list of beers on tap
great outdoor patio too

http://hyatt.com/content/dam/Minisites/barrel-and-bushel/Menus/Barrel-And-Bushel-Beverage-Menu-072715.pdf (http://hyatt.com/content/dam/Minisites/barrel-and-bushel/Menus/Barrel-And-Bushel-Beverage-Menu-072715.pdf)

also best name for a flight
ALL ABOUT THE ABVS FLIGHT (D18,D19,D20,D21)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 04, 2015, 09:30:40 pm
Quote from: brennser on August 04, 2015, 09:18:46 pm
thats pretty impressive in terms of showcasing local stuff

I meant to emphasize that and ended up leaving it out
Here's the draught list

D1 O?CONNOR EL GUAPO AGAVE IPA 20
Norfolk, VA. (southern flight)  ABV. 7.5%
D2 ASK WHAT?S ON TAP FROM OCELOT 12
Dulles, VA (make your flight only)
D3 DOGFISH HEAD FESTINA PECHE 20
Rehoboth Beach, DE.  (tristate flight) ABV 4.5%
D4 DUCLAW BAR HOP CONTINUUM #2  20
Baltimore. MD (tristate flight) ABV
D5 BLUE MOUNTAIN DARK HOLLOW 12
Afton, VA (southern flight) ABV 10%
D6 OLD OX GOLDEN OX 20
Ashburn, VA. (northern VA flight) ABV 6.5%
D7 OLD BUST HEAD ENGLISH PALE ALE 20
D8 EVOLUTION LOT NO. 6 DIPA 12
Salisbury, MD. (tristate flight) ABV 8.5%
D9 LOST RHINO HEFEWEIZEN 20
Ashburn, VA (northern VA flight) ABV 5.3%
D10 PORT CITY OPTIMAL WIT 20
Alexandria, VA. (beltway flight) ABV 4.9%
D11 HARDYWOOD PARK PILSNER 20
Richmond, VA, (southern VA flight) ABV 5.4%
D12 ATLAS ROWDY HOPPY RYE ALE 20
Washington DC (tristate flight) ABV 6.2%
D13 ALEWERKS SHORTY TIME IPA 20
Williamsburg, VA. (southern VA flight) ABV 4.8%
D14 DEVILS BACKBONE VIENNA LAGER 20
Roaseland, VA. (southern VA flight) ABV 4.9%
D15 FAIRWINDS HOWLING GALE IPA 20
Lorton, VA (northern VA flight) ABV 7.2%
D16 MAD FOX KOLSCH 20
Falls Church, VA. (beltway flight) ABV 4.4%
D17 HERITAGE BREWING HONEY WHEAT 20
Manassas, VA. (northern VA. flight) 4.3%
D18 3 BROTHERS HOPTIMIZATION 20
Harrisonburg, VA (all about the ABVS flight) ABV 7.1%
D19 ADROIT THEORY SAISON 12
Purcellville, VA. (all about the ABVS flight) ABV 9.5%
D20 ADROIT THEORY ZERO COFFE IPA
D21 3 STARS PANDEMIC PORTER 12
Washington, DC (all about the ABV?s flight) ABV 9.6%
D22 APOCALPYSE HEAVY WEE HEAVY 12
Forest, VA



this is also looks very interesting (but expensive)
TOP BOURBON FLIGHT - - $75

BLOOD OATH BOURBON ONE RUN
RESERVOIR BOURBON WHISKEY
LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL 13 YEAR RYE
HUDSON MANHATTAN RYE WHISKEY
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 06, 2015, 10:03:33 am
ok, I don,t drink beer like I used to, but even I was deeply impressed to see a list of beer selections such as that, at an eating establishment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 10, 2015, 11:09:54 pm
in case you want to get an idea of how massive Stone's RVA brewery is going to be: http://rvanews.com/features/photos-inside-stone-brewing-co-s-new-massive-facility/127778
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2015, 03:24:33 pm
(http://www.adweek.com/files/imagecache/node-blog/blogs/hefewheaties-hed-2015.jpg)

General Mills has done the inevitable and created a Wheaties-branded Hefeweizen in partnership with Minneapolis craft brewery Fulton (http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/wheaties-now-making-beer-those-who-want-different-breakfast-champions-166352).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 12, 2015, 03:26:18 pm
(https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBi7AWh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZ2FubmV0dC1jZG4uY29tLy1tbS0vZmQ0MzJkZmM1NmM4YWVmZjljNGQ4NzUwNDBmNTBjM2U4M2U4NjQ4Ny9jPTAtMTMxLTYwMC00NzAmcj14NDUzJmM9ODAweDQ1MC9sb2NhbC8tL21lZGlhLzIwMTUvMDgvMTEvSW5kaWFuYXBvbGlzL0luZGlhbmFwb2xpcy82MzU3NDg4Mzk5Nzc0NDIyODEtc3Vua2luZy5qcGcUwAwUxAYcFIQGFJQDAAAWABIA&s=HhAiV3j-MkYdN1f6nKAaJ5YBzkfPDSPbHHZBkDcBtro)



On May 13, a Sun King employee who has been identified as Biscuit, stamped more than 20,000 cans of beer with ?Tom Brady Sux? during the height of ?DeflateGate?.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/08/12/brewery-employee-stamps-20000-cans-beer-with-tom-brady-sux/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 12, 2015, 03:28:52 pm
Quote from: jaded on August 12, 2015, 03:26:18 pm
employee who has been identified as Biscuit,
Human Resources is doing a hell of a job attracting top talent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 12, 2015, 03:47:41 pm
also known as, to his friends only, as "n'gravy."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 12, 2015, 03:49:09 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 12, 2015, 03:47:41 pm
also known as, to his friends only, as "n'gravy."
Actually you have it backwards. His full name is "Biscuit n'gravy" but his pals just call him "Biscuit" because he's casual as fuck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 12, 2015, 03:52:03 pm
I bought a six pack of all different beers, just because, and something has happened to someone I know, so I need a beer right now.

firestone  easy jack ipa
deschutes   fresh squeezed ipa
dog,fish,head   burton baton
ballast point   dorado
lagunitas sucks   brown shugga sub
sierra Nevada   hoptimum
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 12, 2015, 04:07:17 pm
^ solid sixer.  i'm not nuts about burton baton but i'd happily drink any of those.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 12, 2015, 04:32:58 pm
Zwanze Day
Saturday 19/09/2015
ChurchKey -- Washington, D.C.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/zwanze-day-2015-locations-sep-19-2015.319204/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 12, 2015, 04:42:18 pm
They sure do gots some good beer out here in the PNW.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 12, 2015, 10:47:37 pm
pnw, as in the pacific nor,thwest?  I went out there for a week, but it was before everybody and their brother,s uncle drank all the interesting beers.  we didn,t know nothing back then, and thought duvel was the shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 13, 2015, 01:36:50 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 12, 2015, 10:47:37 pm
and thought duvel was the shit.

it still is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2015, 09:39:21 am
Homework for Homebrewers (http://beerandbrewing.com/VcOOciEAANEA1kO5/article/homework-for-homebrewers)

To pay tribute to their homebrewing roots, Ballast Point?s Homework Series includes the actual recipes to their beers with the beers themselves
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 13, 2015, 10:16:51 am
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 13, 2015, 09:39:21 am
Homework for Homebrewers (http://beerandbrewing.com/VcOOciEAANEA1kO5/article/homework-for-homebrewers)

To pay tribute to their homebrewing roots, Ballast Point?s Homework Series includes the actual recipes to their beers with the beers themselves

This is an excellent development.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 13, 2015, 10:17:18 pm
went to a place that had over fifty excellent only beers / ciders on tap and twenty something beers in bottles, and that is pretty good for our area.  fresh squeezed ipa on draft, and though tasty, not as good as it in the bottle, which I found odd.  second, and last beer of the day was a stone ruinten triple ipa.  damn fine cup of beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 13, 2015, 11:32:40 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 13, 2015, 10:17:18 pm
fresh squeezed ipa on draft, and though tasty, not as good as it in the bottle, which I found odd. 

that is kinda weird, but it could be a function of how the keg was treated, how old or carbonated it was, etc. 

Quote from: walk,on,by on August 13, 2015, 10:17:18 pm
second, and last beer of the day was a stone ruinten triple ipa.  damn fine cup of beer.

i'm still kinda on the fence about the new ruinten.  it's solid but not my favorite DIPA/TIPA. 

but i'm not so on the fence that i wouldn't finish a 32 oz half-growler to myself, like i may or may not have done last weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 14, 2015, 02:46:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 12, 2015, 04:42:18 pm
They sure do gots some good beer out here in the PNW.

Breweries visited:

Portland:


Hair of the Dog:
Great atmosphere, tasty food, always solid high abv beers. But they don't seem to come up with much new stuff.
Favorite beer(s) tried: Adam


Cascade:
I was there four years ago and hated sours. I love sours now, but Cascade still really doesn't do it for me. Oh well, our server was very nice.
Favorite beer(s) tried: Cascade Rouge


Upright:
Love this place. Hard to find, in the basement of an office building. We ran into the one guy running the tasting room as he was in the hallway of the office bulding running errands. We asked for directions, he said "just follow the music." Not only was he pouring beer and selling bottles (all cash only), but he as also spinning the vinyl (old school reggae, some old N'awlins stuff, all excellent).
Favorite beer(s) tried: Upright #7, also their first attempt at an American Barleywine

Hopworks Urban Brewpub:
Surprisingly excellent food for a brewpub.
Favorite beer(s) tried: the standard IPA



Hood River:

Double Mountain:
Great pizza and very good beer. What not to love about that.
Favorite beer(s) tried: Devil's Kriek

Pfriem:
Everything was solid. Nice location down by the river.
Favorite beer(s) tried: the Belgian pale



Seattle:

Holy Mountain:
Most eclectic and interesting brewery in Seattle. Too bad it was 21+. At least I got to go.
Favorite beer(s) tried:Kiln and Cone Pale Ale. Ok, so there were some more interesting beers I tried at HM (the foudre aged Belgian pale comes to mind), but this one was one of the best pale ales I've ever had.

Reubens Brews:
I didn't make it here, but my wife did, and she didn't sound too impressed. Oh well.

Fremont Brewing:
Best beer spot to hand out in Seattle. Beers all good, though they had nothing special on draft.
Favorite beer(s) tried:Interurban IPA



Other:
Belmont Station (Portland) Best bottle shop, and maybe best draft list in Portland. So awesome that this place was literally around the corner from our airbnb.

Chuck's Hop Shop (Seattle, Cap Hill): Great bottle shop in Seattle

The Wurst Place (Seattle): Sausage place with vegan options, great draft list, slightly punk rock vibe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 14, 2015, 03:00:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 14, 2015, 02:46:56 pm
Holy Mountain:
Most eclectic and interesting brewery in Seattle. Too bad it was 21+. At least I got to go.

it is funny that one would actually say a bar is 21+
but I have noticed that most breweries cater to the 35-45 year old male who likely has 1-2 kids
therefore they have cater to that audience by allowing kids and sometimes having playgrounds or things for them to do

20 years ago people wouldn't even consider bringing kids to a drinking establishment (at least that's my perception)


Quote
Sausage place with vegan options
blasphemy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 14, 2015, 03:09:52 pm
The kid thing was interesting. I'm not sure what the laws were. But in Portland, it all seemed to be at the discretion of the establishment. Some let kids in all the time, some not at all, some had signs fro minors only at certain hours.

I thought I read that you had to at least serve food in order for minors to be present, but at least for Upright, that was not the case.

There were several breweries (and restaurants) I didn't even bother with, because my homework had already indicated "no kids at any time". But the Seattle portion of the trip was business, so i went with a work colleague to Holy Mountain and left the family behind.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 14, 2015, 04:01:12 pm
I'm a bit beered out right now, but somebody should go to this:

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/events/founders-tap-takeover-815-georgetown

CBS! KBS!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 14, 2015, 04:37:06 pm
WOW!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 16, 2015, 09:00:09 pm
So made it to Pizzeria Paradiso for the founders tap takeover
riding 10 miles when it was about 95 might not have been the best pregame for drinking some heavy beers

But I finally had the KBS!
(https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11375235_439974239508863_1438365166_n.jpg)
It was good, looked like a shot of espresso in the glass.
Was I floored, not really?  It had  a lot of character and I am loving dark beers lately, but I don't get all the hub-bub. I had great choco/coffee taste, was very smooth to drink, but I thought you could really taste the alcohol.
 
In retrospect, probably should have gone for the 2014, but I got the 2105

The Backwoods and the rye were both very good.

Wish I could have stayed for a few more flights, but it was not meant to be
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 17, 2015, 08:24:01 am
What about the CBS?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 17, 2015, 08:46:52 am
There were only three other Founders beers on the list in my photo
The RedRye and the KBS14 and KBS15.  I didn't see or ask about the CBS
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 17, 2015, 08:56:25 am
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2015, 08:46:52 am
There were only three other Founders beers on the list in my photo
The RedRye and the KBS14 and KBS15.  I didn't see or ask about the CBS

Oooof... that was the whole reason to attend that event, sir.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 17, 2015, 01:09:38 pm
Had a 32 oz growler of this yesterday. Best beer I've had by Sam Adams. Ever.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/samuel-adams-kosmic-mother-funk-kmf-grand-cru/224151/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 17, 2015, 04:05:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 17, 2015, 08:56:25 am
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2015, 08:46:52 am
There were only three other Founders beers on the list in my photo
The RedRye and the KBS14 and KBS15.  I didn't see or ask about the CBS

Oooof... that was the whole reason to attend that event, sir.

seriously.  had i been able to make that event, i would have had only CBS (assuming that the first glass lived up to the hype).

instead, i stayed home on saturday and brewed for the second day in a row.  i now have an IPA*, two saisons and a quad/belgian dark strong happily bubbling away in the basement.  still... CBS.  t'was a tough call.  that beer is my white whale.

*IPA was made with HBC-438 hops, a new experimental variety that is being released to homebrewers only (no craft breweries got this hop, this year, except for russian river that brewed a beer for the conference).  smelled amazing in the kettle!

Quote from: Space Freely on August 17, 2015, 01:09:38 pm
Had a 32 oz growler of this yesterday. Best beer I've had by Sam Adams. Ever.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/samuel-adams-kosmic-mother-funk-kmf-grand-cru/224151/

i've been wanting to try that one.  a while back the beer buyer at my WF said that he's sitting on a keg and will release it at some point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 17, 2015, 04:29:42 pm
well dang....it wasn't on the list
I went on Sunday, possibly it was sold out and them made a new menu for Sunday??

I kept hearing all this talk about KBS, so thought that was the one to go for.
such a n00b
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 17, 2015, 04:30:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 17, 2015, 04:05:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 17, 2015, 08:56:25 am
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2015, 08:46:52 am
There were only three other Founders beers on the list in my photo
The RedRye and the KBS14 and KBS15.  I didn't see or ask about the CBS

Oooof... that was the whole reason to attend that event, sir.

seriously.  had i been able to make that event, i would have had only CBS (assuming that the first glass lived up to the hype).

instead, i stayed home on saturday and brewed for the second day in a row.  i now have an IPA*, two saisons and a quad/belgian dark strong happily bubbling away in the basement.  still... CBS.  t'was a tough call.  that beer is my white whale.

*IPA was made with HBC-438 hops, a new experimental variety that is being released to homebrewers only (no craft breweries got this hop, this year, except for russian river that brewed a beer for the conference).  smelled amazing in the kettle!

Quote from: Space Freely on August 17, 2015, 01:09:38 pm
Had a 32 oz growler of this yesterday. Best beer I've had by Sam Adams. Ever.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/samuel-adams-kosmic-mother-funk-kmf-grand-cru/224151/

i've been wanting to try that one.  a while back the beer buyer at my WF said that he's sitting on a keg and will release it at some point.

Oh... it lives up to the hype. I've been lucky to have roughly 50oz of it or so this year and it leaves you wanting more! I recommend not drinking it side by side to KBS as it blows it out of the water.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 17, 2015, 04:30:57 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2015, 04:29:42 pm
well dang....it wasn't on the list
I went on Sunday, possibly it was sold out and them made a new menu for Sunday??

I kept hearing all this talk about KBS, so thought that was the one to go for.
such a n00b

Uhhhh yes... CBS was probably gone within an hour two after the tapped the keg.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 17, 2015, 05:57:27 pm
Hit a handful of breweries in Asheville, NC recently.  All good stuff.

Highlight was the Ruffian Black IPA at Wicked Weed.....dry hopped like a DIPA yet roasty like a stout.  9%.  Unfortunately, didn't have time to let it warm a bit.  I'll have to make a return visit for that....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 18, 2015, 11:15:19 am
a well done bottle share tasting & ranking of 24 IPAs: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=7049991#post7049991
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 18, 2015, 11:54:25 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 18, 2015, 11:15:19 am
a well done bottle share tasting & ranking of 24 IPAs: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=7049991#post7049991

I've had #24 and it's a lot better than they give it credit for!

Also have to wonder how un-fresh the Jai Alai was for it to score so low....edit, 56 days. I've got some here that's even slightly older, and it still tastes pretty decent.

Also had the Freak of Nature and would definitely put it middle of the pack, not #1.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 18, 2015, 12:44:41 pm
any of you hop head also into biking?

This Saturday I'm organizing a ride
This is a casual ride with a focus on seeing (and drinking) at the breweries on the WO&D.

Mile 25  Old Ox Brewery   44652 Guilford Drive, Unit 114, Ashburn
Mile 12  Caboose Brewing   520 Mill St NE, Vienna
Mile 6.5  Mad Fox   444 W Broad St, Falls Church


I plan on doing 55 mile ride with me starting at mile 0 on the WO&D and ride out to Old ox at mile marker 25
there is a tour at 2 pm at Old Ox...not sure if that going to happen....but maybe


I will happily meet someone there to do a shorter ride Reston mile 18 or  East Falls Church mile 6


long ride - 55
Med ride - 25 (metro Reston, ride 7 to Old ox, 13 to caboose 3.5 to Merrifield ) (or 32 back to start)
Short ride - 15 (Reston Metro...no Ox and go straight to Caboose)



So come on out, bring a friend (or two) weather is supposed to be 85 and partly cloudy
PM me if you want to go and I'll get you more details

Cheers and gears!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 18, 2015, 01:09:11 pm
It's a good thing that my daughter just chose to play Brewopoly instead of Dogopoly, right?

The first property she purchased was Sweetwater 420, lol.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 18, 2015, 01:45:33 pm
shhhhhh(itshow).....


https://twitter.com/WFMPST/status/633675735811538944

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 18, 2015, 01:55:43 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 18, 2015, 12:44:41 pm
any of you hop head also into biking?

This Saturday I'm organizing a ride
This is a casual ride with a focus on seeing (and drinking) at the breweries on the WO&D.

Mile 25  Old Ox Brewery   44652 Guilford Drive, Unit 114, Ashburn
Mile 12  Caboose Brewing   520 Mill St NE, Vienna
Mile 6.5  Mad Fox   444 W Broad St, Falls Church


I plan on doing 55 mile ride with me starting at mile 0 on the WO&D and ride out to Old ox at mile marker 25
there is a tour at 2 pm at Old Ox...not sure if that going to happen....but maybe


I will happily meet someone there to do a shorter ride Reston mile 18 or  East Falls Church mile 6


long ride - 55
Med ride - 25 (metro Reston, ride 7 to Old ox, 13 to caboose 3.5 to Merrifield ) (or 32 back to start)
Short ride - 15 (Reston Metro...no Ox and go straight to Caboose)



So come on out, bring a friend (or two) weather is supposed to be 85 and partly cloudy
PM me if you want to go and I'll get you more details

Cheers and gears!

I'm planning on running 22 in Rock Creek on Saturday...If I switched to Reston I'd have to sprint the whole way to keep up!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 18, 2015, 01:58:02 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 18, 2015, 12:44:41 pm
any of you hop head also into biking?

This Saturday I'm organizing a ride
This is a casual ride with a focus on seeing (and drinking) at the breweries on the WO&D.

Mile 25  Old Ox Brewery   44652 Guilford Drive, Unit 114, Ashburn
Mile 12  Caboose Brewing   520 Mill St NE, Vienna
Mile 6.5  Mad Fox   444 W Broad St, Falls Church


I plan on doing 55 mile ride with me starting at mile 0 on the WO&D and ride out to Old ox at mile marker 25
there is a tour at 2 pm at Old Ox...not sure if that going to happen....but maybe


I will happily meet someone there to do a shorter ride Reston mile 18 or  East Falls Church mile 6


long ride - 55
Med ride - 25 (metro Reston, ride 7 to Old ox, 13 to caboose 3.5 to Merrifield ) (or 32 back to start)
Short ride - 15 (Reston Metro...no Ox and go straight to Caboose)



So come on out, bring a friend (or two) weather is supposed to be 85 and partly cloudy
PM me if you want to go and I'll get you more details

Cheers and gears!

are you organizing this, Sidehatch, or are you quoting someone else?

sounds like fun.  we'll be in CA this weekend, otherwise i would have given this very serious consideration.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 18, 2015, 02:44:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 18, 2015, 01:58:02 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 18, 2015, 12:44:41 pm
any of you hop head also into biking?

This Saturday I'm organizing a rideCheers and gears!

are you organizing this, Sidehatch, or are you quoting someone else?

sounds like fun.  we'll be in CA this weekend, otherwise i would have given this very serious consideration.

It's my ride....I had a few takers originally, but now everyone is dropping out
so might be a solo tour  :-\
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 18, 2015, 02:57:18 pm
well i hope some others join you.  should be a hoot.  biking and beer go well together!

2 weeks ago i was in vermont, and one of the days that i checked in to the Harpoon brewery was the end of some cross-state biking thing.  place was set up like a festival, it was a lot of fun.  lots of spandex and suds...

to keep this truly on topic: once again Harpoon wasn't amazing, but it's really not bad either.  they had a very decent west-coast IPA on tap (a brewery one-off), as well as a nice saison (part of their 100 Barrel series) and a single-hop mosaic (another one-off).  i sampled many other interesting things like a cider made with belgian yeast.  i wouldn't go out of my way to visit Hapoon and their regular bottled offerings are boring, but as my local when visiting the in-laws i could do much worse.  hit up the place 2 or 3 times during my visit, always left satisified.  certainly not blow away, but satisfied.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 18, 2015, 03:43:54 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 18, 2015, 02:57:18 pm
well i hope some others join you.  should be a hoot.  biking and beer go well together!

2 weeks ago i was in vermont, and one of the days that i checked in to the Harpoon brewery was the end of some cross-state biking thing.  place was set up like a festival, it was a lot of fun.  lots of spandex and suds...

to keep this truly on topic: once again Harpoon wasn't amazing, but it's really not bad either.  they had a very decent west-coast IPA on tap (a brewery one-off), as well as a nice saison (part of their 100 Barrel series) and a single-hop mosaic (another one-off).  i sampled many other interesting things like a cider made with belgian yeast.  i wouldn't go out of my way to visit Hapoon and their regular bottled offerings are boring, but as my local when visiting the in-laws i could do much worse.  hit up the place 2 or 3 times during my visit, always left satisified.  certainly not blow away, but satisfied.

The pretzels at Harpoon (in Boston) were amazing. If they have them in VT, hope you partook. (?) So amazing that I went and drank Harpoon beers twice, just to get another pretzel. Should have stuck with the dunkel, which paired well the first visit....the DIPA didn't pair well at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2015, 04:01:09 pm
Is this the bike thread now?  If so, this is my new ride....

(http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/pi/mp/3198/prod_6831653915?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.wfrcdn.com%2Flf%2F49%2Fhash%2F16394%2F14917766%2F1%2F1%2F1.jpg&d=4a1e40ded3fb37f749b57f2a5a0eb3a9193575d1&wid=140&wid=180hei=140)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 18, 2015, 04:15:50 pm
Quote from: vansmack on August 18, 2015, 04:01:09 pm
Is this the bike thread now?  If so, this is my new ride....

(http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/pi/mp/3198/prod_6831653915?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.wfrcdn.com%2Flf%2F49%2Fhash%2F16394%2F14917766%2F1%2F1%2F1.jpg&d=4a1e40ded3fb37f749b57f2a5a0eb3a9193575d1&wid=140&wid=180hei=140)
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4wkv8KG681qksqoh.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 18, 2015, 04:41:09 pm
did not have the pretzel but it did seem to be a very popular menu item.  will check it out next time.

Quote from: Space Freely on August 18, 2015, 03:43:54 pm
the DIPA didn't pair well at all.

their DIPA (Leviathan IPA) is way too sweet and heavy.  it's halfway to an american barleywine.  i enjoy it, i have one most times that i'm there, but it is a poor DIPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 19, 2015, 11:07:03 am
have we reached peak IPA (https://www.brewersassociation.org/insights/the-next-ipa/)?
Gose looks to be where to put your money on!

(https://www.brewersassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IPA-share2.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:14:28 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 19, 2015, 11:07:03 am
have we reached peak IPA (https://www.brewersassociation.org/insights/the-next-ipa/)?
Gose looks to be where to put your money on!

(https://www.brewersassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IPA-share2.png)

The issue I find with even the really good Gose offerings is you can drink one, maybe two? No way in hell am I drinking a six pack of Westbrook Gose.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 01:16:25 pm
I must be the outlier, because I drank three six packs of Westbrook Gose. With the help of my wife.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 19, 2015, 01:33:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 01:16:25 pm
I must be the outlier, because I drank three six packs of Westbrook Gose. With the help of my wife.

You mean since March, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:39:55 pm
^what jaded said^

I was talking about in a sitting. I can maybe drink two Goses (is that the plural of Gose) in one evening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:04:55 pm
Quote from: jaded on August 19, 2015, 01:33:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 01:16:25 pm
I must be the outlier, because I drank three six packs of Westbrook Gose. With the help of my wife.

You mean since March, right?

Yes, over about a three month period.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:05:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:39:55 pm
^what jaded said^

I was talking about in a sitting. I can maybe drink two Goses (is that the plural of Gose) in one evening.

Not sure why one would want more than a couple of beers in an evening? Would you want more than a couple of sodas in an evening?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 19, 2015, 02:12:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:05:58 pm


Not sure why one would want more than a couple of beers in an evening?

I get it he's being Retardeorical
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 19, 2015, 02:15:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:05:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:39:55 pm
^what jaded said^

I was talking about in a sitting. I can maybe drink two Goses (is that the plural of Gose) in one evening.

Not sure why one would want more than a couple of beers in an evening? Would you want more than a couple of sodas in an evening?

This argument again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 19, 2015, 02:17:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 02:15:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:05:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:39:55 pm
^what jaded said^

I was talking about in a sitting. I can maybe drink two Goses (is that the plural of Gose) in one evening.

Not sure why one would want more than a couple of beers in an evening? Would you want more than a couple of sodas in an evening?

This argument again.
The logic is undeniable. I mean, why would you want more than a couple breaths of air? Would you want more than a couple of elephants sitting on you and crushing you to death?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:41:45 pm
Would you want more than a couple of ice cream cones in one night?

I don't think even my ice cream loving eight year old would.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:44:08 pm
We went backpacking out in the Olympic Peninsula, and stopped at a random gas station that seemed to be part of an Indian casino...saw that they had beer so thought I'd take a look.

There on the shelf was a box of Stickee Monkey...at $24 I had to pass...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 19, 2015, 02:45:51 pm
It's crazy Rhett, it's almost like people enjoy different quantities of different things, like there's not one specific magical number that constitutes the quantity you should have of every possible thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 19, 2015, 02:54:18 pm
umm there is this component in beer that has nothing to do with the taste
some have a tolerance and can have many and some do not

it's supposed to make you better looking, have more confidence and make crappy music fun to dance to
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 19, 2015, 02:55:19 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on August 19, 2015, 02:45:51 pm
It's crazy Rhett, it's almost like people enjoy different quantities of different things, like there's not one specific magical number that constitutes the quantity you should have of every possible thing.

I hear you can fill your e-cig 20 times and its like you've only had one cigarette!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 19, 2015, 02:58:57 pm
Quote from: jaded on August 19, 2015, 02:55:19 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on August 19, 2015, 02:45:51 pm
It's crazy Rhett, it's almost like people enjoy different quantities of different things, like there's not one specific magical number that constitutes the quantity you should have of every possible thing.

I hear you can fill your e-cig 20 times and its like you've only had one cigarette!
I had 10 baby carrots earlier as a snack, and I am not looking forward to having to eat 10 veggie burgers for dinner. :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 03:32:36 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on August 19, 2015, 02:45:51 pm
It's crazy Rhett, it's almost like people enjoy different quantities of different things, like there's not one specific magical number that constitutes the quantity you should have of every possible thing.

So now you're defending how much "fatties" eat?

You've turned a new leaf.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 19, 2015, 03:37:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 03:32:36 pm
So now you're defending how much "fatties" eat?
I was unaware either Yada or Jaded are "fatties".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 19, 2015, 03:43:28 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on August 19, 2015, 03:37:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 03:32:36 pm
So now you're defending how much "fatties" eat?
I was unaware either Yada or Jaded are "fatties".
I know for a fact that to Yada, 'fatties' means something entirely different...fregin hippy
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 03:44:48 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on August 19, 2015, 03:37:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 03:32:36 pm
So now you're defending how much "fatties" eat?
I was unaware either Yada or Jaded are "fatties".

Six 5% pale ales are about 900 calories.

Six 7% IPA's are about 1260 calories.

Regardless of whether they are "fatties", that doesn't seem like an effective nutritional intake. Drink like that, and eventually you'll be an "unhealthy" and most probably a "fattie". Am I missing something?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 19, 2015, 03:46:06 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on July 17, 2015, 12:19:40 pm
Drink a 6-Pack a Day & Still Get Six Pack Abs (http://www.truthaboutabs.com/drink-6-pack-get-lean.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 04:00:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 19, 2015, 03:46:06 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on July 17, 2015, 12:19:40 pm
Drink a 6-Pack a Day & Still Get Six Pack Abs (http://www.truthaboutabs.com/drink-6-pack-get-lean.html)

I can google too.

A Six-pack A Day Is A Formula For Cirrhosis

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2000-09-18/lifestyle/0009180364_1_cirrhosis-lupus-six-pack (http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2000-09-18/lifestyle/0009180364_1_cirrhosis-lupus-six-pack)


Putting all of the above aside, consider the liver. A man who drinks six to eight 12-ounce cans of beer every day on a regular basis can almost count on developing liver cirrhosis within 10 to 15 years. Cirrhosis is a scarred, nonfunctioning liver that bestows a most unpleasant life and an early, gruesome death.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 19, 2015, 04:05:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 03:44:48 pm
Six 5% pale ales are about 900 calories.

Six 7% IPA's are about 1260 calories.

Regardless of whether they are "fatties", that doesn't seem like an effective nutritional intake. Drink like that, and eventually you'll be an "unhealthy" and most probably a "fattie". Am I missing something?
It's not how I would choose to use my calories, but it's not out of the range of possibility of someone doing this, I don't know, once a week or something like that. Say your TDEE is ~2,400 calories and you only take in 2,200 calories a day Sunday thru Friday. Your splurging on 1200 calories of beer on Saturday is, from a purely caloric viewpoint, mitigated by the modest daily caloric deficit you ran all week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 19, 2015, 04:06:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 04:00:21 pm
Putting all of the above aside, consider the liver. A man who drinks six to eight 12-ounce cans of beer every day on a regular basis can almost count on developing liver cirrhosis within 10 to 15 years. Cirrhosis is a scarred, nonfunctioning liver that bestows a most unpleasant life and an early, gruesome death.
That's a completely different issue, albeit a valid one. I think you're willfully conflating "drinking a six-pack of beer" and "drinking a six-pack of beer every day on a regular basis" though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 04:21:50 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on August 19, 2015, 04:06:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 04:00:21 pm
Putting all of the above aside, consider the liver. A man who drinks six to eight 12-ounce cans of beer every day on a regular basis can almost count on developing liver cirrhosis within 10 to 15 years. Cirrhosis is a scarred, nonfunctioning liver that bestows a most unpleasant life and an early, gruesome death.
That's a completely different issue, albeit a valid one. I think you're willfully conflating "drinking a six-pack of beer" and "drinking a six-pack of beer every day on a regular basis" though.

Yes, I get that a six-pack every day is different than binge drinking. Still, binge-drinking isn't exactly healthy living either.

http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-drink/binge-drinking-warning-signs

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 19, 2015, 04:22:44 pm
so starting at 2 PM and ending at 10PM one consumes a six pack...is that a binge?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 19, 2015, 04:29:31 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 19, 2015, 04:22:44 pm
so starting at 2 PM and ending at 10PM one consumes a six pack...is that a binge?
From the binge drinking wiki with multiple cited sources:

Quote
There is currently no worldwide consensus on how many drinks constitute a "binge", but in the United States, the term is often taken to mean consuming five or more standard drinks (male), or four or more drinks (female), over a 2-hour period.

If you kill a sixer in an hour, yeah, that's probably binge drinking, but a six pack over an afternoon/evening really isn't, in my mind.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 19, 2015, 04:53:47 pm
Pfft.  I burn 3,000 calories before 9am every Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 20, 2015, 12:00:46 pm
The [DC-Beer] listserv is all on fire about where to get cucumber beer.  Is this for real, or is it like asparagus water (http://www.eater.com/2015/8/11/9131797/watch-john-oliver-whole-foods-asparagus-water)?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 20, 2015, 01:02:14 pm
cucumber beer is a real thing: i've seen cucumber saison, cucumber gose, cucumber berliner wiesse... i don't believe i've tasted any, tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 20, 2015, 01:03:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2015, 01:02:14 pm
cucumber beer is a real thing: i've seen cucumber saison, cucumber gose, cucumber berliner wiesse... i don't believe i've tasted any, tho.
Square One cucumber vodka is a trend that came and went far too fast. I always stock a bottle for martini hour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 20, 2015, 01:05:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:14:28 pm
The issue I find with even the really good Gose offerings is you can drink one, maybe two? No way in hell am I drinking a six pack of Westbrook Gose.

westbrook is an outlyer - it is really tart for the style.  it's like saying you don't like IPAs because you don't like Bitter Valentine, Hop Stoopid, or some other extreme 100+ IBU example.  

have you tried the Victory's Kirsch Gose?  talk about crushable... i could definitely work through a sixer of that on a hot afternoon (yes, Rhett, some people can drink more than 2 beers a day...)

Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:44:08 pm
There on the shelf was a box of Stickee Monkey...at $24 I had to pass...

that's too much, but daaaaaaaaamn it's a good beer.  it's a desert beer in my books but the missus would drink it all day long (well, at long as she could... at 13%, one hits the limit pretty quick).  i was lucky enough to be in CA in june when this was released and was able to score a few bottles from BevMo for $15. 

i can't think of a single FW boxed beer that i won't buy as many of as i can.  apparently the Helldorado isn't quite worth the price of admission, but i haven't seen it around here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 20, 2015, 01:24:53 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2015, 01:05:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:14:28 pm
The issue I find with even the really good Gose offerings is you can drink one, maybe two? No way in hell am I drinking a six pack of Westbrook Gose.

westbrook is an outlyer - it is really tart for the style.  it's like saying you don't like IPAs because you don't like Bitter Valentine, Hop Stoopid, or some other extreme 100+ IBU example.  

have you tried the Victory's Kirsch Gose?  talk about crushable... i could definitely work through a sixer of that on a hot afternoon (yes, Rhett, some people can drink more than 2 beers a day...)

Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:44:08 pm
There on the shelf was a box of Stickee Monkey...at $24 I had to pass...

that's too much, but daaaaaaaaamn it's a good beer.  it's a desert beer in my books but the missus would drink it all day long (well, at long as she could... at 13%, one hits the limit pretty quick).  i was lucky enough to be in CA in june when this was released and was able to score a few bottles from BevMo for $15. 

i can't think of a single FW boxed beer that i won't buy as many of as i can.  apparently the Helldorado isn't quite worth the price of admission, but i haven't seen it around here.

Absolutely... been chirping about Kirsch Gose all summer. I think the most I've drank is three... but yea, that beer is incredible. I actually have one last four pack left. ;0(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 20, 2015, 02:10:42 pm
http://denizensbrewingco.com/first-annual-make-it-funky-fest/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on August 20, 2015, 02:17:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 20, 2015, 01:24:53 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2015, 01:05:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:14:28 pm
The issue I find with even the really good Gose offerings is you can drink one, maybe two? No way in hell am I drinking a six pack of Westbrook Gose.

westbrook is an outlyer - it is really tart for the style.  it's like saying you don't like IPAs because you don't like Bitter Valentine, Hop Stoopid, or some other extreme 100+ IBU example.  

have you tried the Victory's Kirsch Gose?  talk about crushable... i could definitely work through a sixer of that on a hot afternoon (yes, Rhett, some people can drink more than 2 beers a day...)

Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:44:08 pm
There on the shelf was a box of Stickee Monkey...at $24 I had to pass...

that's too much, but daaaaaaaaamn it's a good beer.  it's a desert beer in my books but the missus would drink it all day long (well, at long as she could... at 13%, one hits the limit pretty quick).  i was lucky enough to be in CA in june when this was released and was able to score a few bottles from BevMo for $15. 

i can't think of a single FW boxed beer that i won't buy as many of as i can.  apparently the Helldorado isn't quite worth the price of admission, but i haven't seen it around here.

Absolutely... been chirping about Kirsch Gose all summer. I think the most I've drank is three... but yea, that beer is incredible. I actually have one last four pack left. ;0(

I dig a Gose but am surprised nobody every says anything about it being so similar to some kinds of Kombucha.

(http://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce07b8c-643b/k2-_020ad02f-d1c9-4090-a45c-9911115ca5ec.v1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 20, 2015, 02:36:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 20, 2015, 02:10:42 pm
http://denizensbrewingco.com/first-annual-make-it-funky-fest/

nice.  but gordon biersch makes a funky beer? 

edit: did a search, apparently they've made goses and berliners years ago... makes sense, they're german styles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on August 20, 2015, 02:43:26 pm
Quote from: slappy on August 20, 2015, 02:17:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 20, 2015, 01:24:53 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2015, 01:05:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:14:28 pm
The issue I find with even the really good Gose offerings is you can drink one, maybe two? No way in hell am I drinking a six pack of Westbrook Gose.

westbrook is an outlyer - it is really tart for the style.  it's like saying you don't like IPAs because you don't like Bitter Valentine, Hop Stoopid, or some other extreme 100+ IBU example.  

have you tried the Victory's Kirsch Gose?  talk about crushable... i could definitely work through a sixer of that on a hot afternoon (yes, Rhett, some people can drink more than 2 beers a day...)

Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:44:08 pm
There on the shelf was a box of Stickee Monkey...at $24 I had to pass...

that's too much, but daaaaaaaaamn it's a good beer.  it's a desert beer in my books but the missus would drink it all day long (well, at long as she could... at 13%, one hits the limit pretty quick).  i was lucky enough to be in CA in june when this was released and was able to score a few bottles from BevMo for $15. 

i can't think of a single FW boxed beer that i won't buy as many of as i can.  apparently the Helldorado isn't quite worth the price of admission, but i haven't seen it around here.

Absolutely... been chirping about Kirsch Gose all summer. I think the most I've drank is three... but yea, that beer is incredible. I actually have one last four pack left. ;0(

I dig a Gose but am surprised nobody every says anything about it being so similar to some kinds of Kombucha.

(http://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce07b8c-643b/k2-_020ad02f-d1c9-4090-a45c-9911115ca5ec.v1.jpg)

I totally agree with this, it's what got me to brew my first batch of Kombucha.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on August 20, 2015, 03:42:38 pm
Hyrdoponic Hops:  http://www.westword.com/restaurants/city-star-will-tap-first-commercial-beer-made-with-hydroponically-grown-hops-7051367
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 20, 2015, 03:55:05 pm
Quote from: jaded on August 20, 2015, 12:00:46 pm
The [DC-Beer] listserv is all on fire about where to get cucumber beer.  Is this for real, or is it like asparagus water (http://www.eater.com/2015/8/11/9131797/watch-john-oliver-whole-foods-asparagus-water)?

I had the Cigar City Cucumber Ale. It was drinkable, but not something beyond that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 20, 2015, 03:57:26 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2015, 01:05:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:14:28 pm
The issue I find with even the really good Gose offerings is you can drink one, maybe two? No way in hell am I drinking a six pack of Westbrook Gose.

westbrook is an outlyer - it is really tart for the style.  it's like saying you don't like IPAs because you don't like Bitter Valentine, Hop Stoopid, or some other extreme 100+ IBU example.  

have you tried the Victory's Kirsch Gose?  talk about crushable... i could definitely work through a sixer of that on a hot afternoon (yes, Rhett, some people can drink more than 2 beers a day...)

Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:44:08 pm
There on the shelf was a box of Stickee Monkey...at $24 I had to pass...

that's too much, but daaaaaaaaamn it's a good beer.  it's a desert beer in my books but the missus would drink it all day long (well, at long as she could... at 13%, one hits the limit pretty quick).  i was lucky enough to be in CA in june when this was released and was able to score a few bottles from BevMo for $15. 

i can't think of a single FW boxed beer that i won't buy as many of as i can.  apparently the Helldorado isn't quite worth the price of admission, but i haven't seen it around here.

I passed on the Helldorado too, elsewhere at $17. By that point I had a few too many other West Coast beers purchased for the return trip.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 20, 2015, 03:59:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 20, 2015, 01:05:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 19, 2015, 01:14:28 pm
The issue I find with even the really good Gose offerings is you can drink one, maybe two? No way in hell am I drinking a six pack of Westbrook Gose.

westbrook is an outlyer - it is really tart for the style.  it's like saying you don't like IPAs because you don't like Bitter Valentine, Hop Stoopid, or some other extreme 100+ IBU example.  

have you tried the Victory's Kirsch Gose?  talk about crushable... i could definitely work through a sixer of that on a hot afternoon (yes, Rhett, some people can drink more than 2 beers a day...)

Quote from: Space Freely on August 19, 2015, 02:44:08 pm
There on the shelf was a box of Stickee Monkey...at $24 I had to pass...

that's too much, but daaaaaaaaamn it's a good beer.  it's a desert beer in my books but the missus would drink it all day long (well, at long as she could... at 13%, one hits the limit pretty quick).  i was lucky enough to be in CA in june when this was released and was able to score a few bottles from BevMo for $15. 

i can't think of a single FW boxed beer that i won't buy as many of as i can.  apparently the Helldorado isn't quite worth the price of admission, but i haven't seen it around here.

I *can* drink six beers in a day too, but I sure don't feel 100% the next day. And why would I want to feel less than 100%?

And you can't drink a six pack of Kirsch Gose because it comes in a four pack.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 20, 2015, 04:52:24 pm
Ian F'n BeerKay over here
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 20, 2015, 04:56:52 pm
Pumpking now out, in four packs this year, for anyone whose taste is so bad that they actually still drink the vile swill known as pumpkin beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 20, 2015, 05:10:11 pm
southern tier's other pumpkin beer, Warlock is one of my all time favorites
scrumptious Imperial Stout

but at $9 a bomber, I've been laying off this year

starting to use the oz/abv per $ (created Space) computation lately and its getting me sad
oh the days when all the dollars were mine and I could spend them freely
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 20, 2015, 05:14:08 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 20, 2015, 05:10:11 pm
southern tier's other pumpkin beer, Warlock is one of my all time favorites
scrumptious Imperial Stout

actually haven't tried 2015
just read
Quote
that the newest batch, at 10% ABV, is drastically different than the previous ones listed here as 8.6%
so not sure how this one is
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on August 20, 2015, 05:18:05 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 20, 2015, 04:52:24 pm
Ian F'n BeerKaye over here

FTFY
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on August 20, 2015, 05:20:03 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 20, 2015, 04:56:52 pm
Pumpking now out, in four packs this year, for anyone whose taste is so bad that they actually still drink the vile swill known as pumpkin beer.
It's been out for a few weeks. But I guess that wouldn't give you reason to bitch. ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 20, 2015, 05:29:40 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 20, 2015, 05:10:11 pm
southern tier's other pumpkin beer, Warlock is one of my all time favorites
scrumptious Imperial Stout

but at $9 a bomber, I've been laying off this year

starting to use the oz/abv per $ (created Space) computation lately and its getting me sad
oh the days when all the dollars were mine and I could spend them freely


I had to throw the $/oz factor our the window when I started buying sours.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 24, 2015, 12:20:02 pm
We made our second trip to Ocelot Sunday, first in three months.

Great to run into Yada, with this little rascal, out in the wilds of VA.

The previous week they had 12 beers listed, so we apparently got the "leftovers" as they were down to five beers.

They had a DIPA (excellent), saison (good to very good),  barleywine (good) ,wild ale (decent but they need to do some work if they want to compete in that category), and pale ale (meh, should have skipped).

Lots of space for little kids to wander. Dog friendly place. Great tunes. Outside food permitted.

Looking forward to going back the next time they have mutiple IPA's (their strongest suit so far) on tap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 24, 2015, 12:54:09 pm
Good bumping into you guys as well!

I agree with your assessment of the beers and of the environment. Definitely the best brewery I've been to in the DC region. Only drawback is the actual location, too bad it's not in some scenic vineyard-esque location or at least  had some outdoor seating options. That office/warehouse park is pretty pretty ugly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 24, 2015, 02:17:08 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 18, 2015, 12:44:41 pm
This I'm planning a casual ride with a focus on seeing (and drinking) at the breweries on the WO&D.

Mile 12  Caboose Brewing   520 Mill St NE, Vienna

Cheers and gears!
So the ride only ended up being about 35 miles and didn't stick to the plan
But I did make it a point to stay on the lighter side of things

Against my better judgment we hit Cap City first
But I thought the Poetic Belgian-Style WIT was a really refreshing drink out on the patio beer, would get again.


Then we hit Caboose.
Great space, right on the trail (easiest way to get there as it's at the end of this industrial park)
great seating outside (although they need to work on the shade)
Inside is also done up real nice
They have a fairly light selection of beers, which was my plan


The "Zoo" Berliner Weise - one of the better ones, with a good tartness

Crossroads Lager - this had a nice taste, could drink a bunch of these, but nothing that special

End-of-Line Kolsch - I liked this, but not a go to selection, but very clean and crisp

Sidetrack Saison - This was definitely tasty and probably my second favorite selection there

Citra Wheat - This was surprisingly good, lots of fruity going on

We some food off the bar menu that was really good (although didn't love the pimento cheese thing)


Both of these were not on tap, but sounds like they would be worth a try next visit
Sidetrack Cucumber Saison and Local Motion Imperial IPA

I enjoyed everything I drank, but nothing was outstanding
So, not a top 10 DC area brewery
But great location and set up help it out a lot

I think as it starts getting cooler they will have a bigger selection of the darker/heavier beers

With it's location on the trail, I have a feeling I'll be stopping in a few more times on my way back of a long ride
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 26, 2015, 08:24:12 pm
Best Happy Hour special ever:

$3 for 9 oz of Speedway Stout at Paradiso Alexandria. 26 ox bottle goes for $16. And you don't really need more than 9 oz of a 12% stout. At least I don't.

This one was pretty nice too:

Green Flash Cellar 3 Natura Morta with Plum
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 26, 2015, 08:32:57 pm
Had a Bells Neptune and a Bells Mango Habanero Oberon earlier. First one tasted like a founders breakfast stout with cayenne pepper. The second tasted like a slight variant on a Bloody Mary. Both tasted like Pure Michigan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 26, 2015, 09:03:36 pm
I like, like really like, that new root beer, beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 26, 2015, 09:07:07 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 26, 2015, 09:03:36 pm
I like, like really like, that new root beer, beer.

I am afraid for my children.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 26, 2015, 10:36:00 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 26, 2015, 09:03:36 pm
I like, like really like, that new root beer, beer.

The one produced by Pabst, or the one produced by Sam Adams?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 26, 2015, 10:51:40 pm
Not your father's root,beer by small town brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 26, 2015, 11:15:03 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 26, 2015, 10:51:40 pm
Not your father's root,beer by small town brewery.
Ah, the one owned by Pabst.

The Sam Adams one is called Coney Island Hard Root Beer.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/food-dining/2015/06/27/sips/i5RUfAU00EnRIbrcr9D9JL/story.html

A couple days later, I discover an LLC filing with the state of Illinois that lists Small Town as part of Innovative Brewing, a subsidiary of Phusion Projects, makers of Four Loko. When I show it to the PR company, they go silent for days, then finally back off their claims of independence, explaining that Small Town was recently acquired by Eugene Kashper, the owner of Pabst.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 28, 2015, 02:19:23 pm
Got a porch bomb of these guys and a few others from NC.

(http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit,q_85,d_beer_def.gif/beer_198125.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 28, 2015, 02:36:06 pm
So few homebrew questions....

refractometer vs Hydrometer
Cracked my Hydro (it's only $5) but was thinking I might upgrade to Refrac?

Carbonation drops vs Dextrose vs Priming sugar vs Honey
I keep having issues with carbonation/feel of the beer.   the Carbonation drops have helped is seems, but not every time


Sanitizing/cleaning
most dreaded part...what is your technique?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 28, 2015, 05:08:28 pm
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/08/blind-tasting-115-of-the-best-american-dipa-and-im.html?a=1
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 28, 2015, 07:12:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 28, 2015, 05:08:28 pm
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/08/blind-tasting-115-of-the-best-american-dipa-and-im.html?a=1

One sentence gives away the experience of the panel.

This was the first time most of us had tasted The Alchemist?s much sought-after DIPA,
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 29, 2015, 05:34:16 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 28, 2015, 02:36:06 pm
refractometer vs Hydrometer
Cracked my Hydro (it's only $5) but was thinking I might upgrade to Refrac?

refractometer is only dependable before fermentation (i.e. before there is alcohol). there are calculators that estimate what the "true" gravity is after fermentation but this is an average... not a true reading.  so the answer is: use both.  refracts are incredibly useful on brew day, totally worth the investment (get one on amazon or eBay, like $25).  for determining your FG, use a hydro.  and don't take a thousand readings during fermentation.  wait for 14 days or more, make sure everything has quietened down, then measure.

Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 28, 2015, 02:36:06 pm
Carbonation drops vs Dextrose vs Priming sugar vs Honey
I keep having issues with carbonation/feel of the beer.   the Carbonation drops have helped is seems, but not every time

i generally use dextrose, and i use this calculator (http://www.northernbrewer.com/learn/resources/priming-sugar-calculator/) to determine how much to use.  along with hops, priming sugar measurements is when i use my high precision ("drug") scale.  the calculator says "Current temperature of beer" - don't use current temp, use the temp the beer was at at the end of fermentation. so if you start at 68, let the beer rise to 72 to finish out, then it cooled off to 65 while you waited to bottle/keg, use 72.

i've never used carb drops, but they seem like a great way to ensure consistent carbonation.  however, you don't have control over how carbonated the beer is - your stout will be as carbed as your IPA and your saison.  personally i like to have a little more control. 

Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 28, 2015, 02:36:06 pm
Sanitizing/cleaning
most dreaded part...what is your technique?

sanitizing: star san, star san, star san.  anything that touches the beer after the boil is star san'ed for at least 30 seconds.  i mix up 2.5 gallons of the solution (a half batch) and use it until it gets slightly cloudy.  i have a dedicated contained for the stuff, and keep it covered when not in use.  star san seems expensive at first (i paid around $25 for my bottle) but i've been using that same bottle for 4 years now - that's pennies a batch.

cleaning: it's all about the PBW.  OxiClean (scent-free) is an ok substitute but PBW is better, IMO.  after a brew day, i run a solution of hot water (140*F) and 1 tablespoon of PBW/gallon through the system.  that and a little scrubbing gets rid of everything.  for carboys, same solution is put in the carboy, it's then turned upside down so the ring of crud is submerged, and given 24 hours.  rinse with hot water, and you're done.  no need for brushes.  in extreme cases a second round of PBW might be needed, but that's happened to me maybe twice.  hot PBW solution is also great for cleaning out bottles and kegs, after they've been used.  if you re-use bottles, since them out immediately after you've served your beer - don't let any gunk dry inside the bottle.

cleaning and sanitizing is a pretty broad topic, lemme know if you have any specific questions...

happy brewing!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 30, 2015, 05:11:41 pm
Nice little article on aging beers. Remember, drink your IPA's fresh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/stop-aging-that-hoppy-beer-its-only-getting-worse/2015/08/29/811b4348-4c45-11e5-902f-39e9219e574b_story.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 31, 2015, 09:15:16 am

Carbonation drops vs Dextrose vs Priming sugar vs Honey
I keep having issues with carbonation/feel of the beer.   the Carbonation drops have helped is seems, but not every time
Quote

- don't use current temp, use the temp the beer was at at the end of fermentation. so if you start at 68, let the beer rise to 72 to finish out, then it cooled off to 65 while you waited to bottle/keg, use 72.

i've never used carb drops, but they seem like a great way to ensure consistent carbonation.  however, you don't have control over how carbonated the beer is - your stout will be as carbed as your IPA and your saison.  personally i like to have a little more control. 

Temp?....
Quote
let the beer rise to 72 to finish out
you have that much variation on temp after you are in the carboy to the bottle?
not sure what you mean 'rise' or 'finish out'

Quote
i like to have a little more control.
Exactly...and a part I feel I need control on as the bubbles are just off


So I guess this isn't the kind of drug scale you were thinking about
(http://www.scalepalace.com/images/tn_hand-held.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 11:50:02 am
We were going to drink a bottle of New Glarus Raspberry Tart at Woftrap Saturday night, but the sho sold out and we didn't go.

Instead, we had it at home. This was my wife's review:

"Ewww, I would have been so pissed if you had made me drink this disgusting shit at a concert."

I guess I'll be drinking the last eight beers of New Glarus fruit beers by myself. Good think they're 4% abv.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2015, 12:40:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 11:50:02 am

I guess I'll be drinking the last eight beers of New Glarus fruit beers by myself. Good think they're 4% abv.
hopefully not in one sitting!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 01, 2015, 12:43:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 01, 2015, 12:40:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 11:50:02 am

I guess I'll be drinking the last eight beers of New Glarus fruit beers by myself. Good think they're 4% abv.
hopefully not in one sitting!
His binge drinking will take decades off his life yet!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 12:52:30 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 01, 2015, 12:40:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 11:50:02 am

I guess I'll be drinking the last eight beers of New Glarus fruit beers by myself. Good think they're 4% abv.
hopefully not in one sitting!

Drink haif, drainpour the rest. For health reasons.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 01, 2015, 01:16:03 pm
I've been drinking a lot of these lately (quanity but not quality approved by Space).

(http://www.chuckthomas.com/rrock/images/rrtapac7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 01:51:06 pm
Hey, you're a PA native,so you get a pass on the Rolling Rock.

Just like I'm a Florida native who grew up on New York State. So i get a pass on Cigar City and Ommegang.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 01, 2015, 01:57:45 pm
just had a ballast point pumpkin down.  it was good, but nothing to write home to grandma about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 01, 2015, 02:01:56 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on September 01, 2015, 01:57:45 pm
just had a ballast point pumpkin down.  it was good, but nothing to write home to grandma about.

There isn't a pumpkin beer on earth to write to grandma about.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 02:14:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 01, 2015, 02:01:56 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on September 01, 2015, 01:57:45 pm
just had a ballast point pumpkin down.  it was good, but nothing to write home to grandma about.

There isn't a pumpkin beer on earth to write to grandma about.

My mother is a grandmother who likes pumpkin beers. Perhaps grandma is the perfect person to write to about a pumpkin beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 01, 2015, 03:13:16 pm
had this other beer, and didn't know it was "local"

not bad, pretty good

called obh  busthead
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 04:08:11 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on September 01, 2015, 03:13:16 pm
had this other beer, and didn't know it was "local"

not bad, pretty good

called obh  busthead

You must have missed the discussion by two former Board members, James Ford and Atomic, about Old Busthead on page 308 of the Beer Thread.

http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=19630.msg388510;topicseen#msg388510

Then again, you seemed more concerned with ticks than beer at that time.

Ironically, I am posting this while wearing my DC Brau t-shirt.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 01, 2015, 04:15:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 01:51:06 pm
Hey, you're a PA native,so you get a pass on the Rolling Rock.

Just like I'm a Florida native who grew up on New York State. So i get a pass on Cigar City and Ommegang.

one of these things is not like the others...

Quote from: Space Freely on September 01, 2015, 04:08:11 pm
You must have missed the discussion by two former Board members, James Ford and Atomic, about Old Busthead on page 308 of the Beer Thread.

is it getting schizophrenic in here?...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 01, 2015, 07:00:42 pm
ticks, weren,t that bad, this year, out here in the valley.  chiggers, came out in late august.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2015, 03:16:23 pm
any of you got $2k to drop on this baby (https://picobrew.azurewebsites.net/store/products/zymaticdetails.cshtml)

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2015, 04:02:58 pm
From Lost Rhino
 We are pleased to announce and host, in conjunction with Visit Loudoun , the first ever LoCo Brewfest on October 24th, featuring your favorite Loudoun County Breweries! We are also teaming up to brew a special collaboration that will be unveiled at the festival. Live music, food vendors, and of course the best beer Loudoun County's finest has to offer. More details to follow and tickets will be available soon! Are you as pumped as we are?
Adroit Theory Brewing Company Barnhouse Brewery Belly Love Brewing Company Beltway Brewing Company Corcoran Brewing Co. Crooked Run Brewing Old 690 Brewing Company Dirt Farm Brewing Mad Horse Brew Pub Ocelot Brewing Company Old Ox Brewery Quattro Goomba's Winery Buffalo Wing Factory
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on September 02, 2015, 04:40:08 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 02, 2015, 04:02:58 pm
From Lost Rhino
 We are pleased to announce and host, in conjunction with Visit Loudoun , the first ever LoCo Brewfest on October 24th, featuring your favorite Loudoun County Breweries! We are also teaming up to brew a special collaboration that will be unveiled at the festival. Live music, food vendors, and of course the best beer Loudoun County's finest has to offer. More details to follow and tickets will be available soon! Are you as pumped as we are?
Adroit Theory Brewing Company Barnhouse Brewery Belly Love Brewing Company Beltway Brewing Company Corcoran Brewing Co. Crooked Run Brewing Old 690 Brewing Company Dirt Farm Brewing Mad Horse Brew Pub Ocelot Brewing Company Old Ox Brewery Quattro Goomba's Winery Buffalo Wing Factory


Awesome. I'm there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 04, 2015, 04:05:16 pm
Had a pour of the Berliner Weisse by Bear Republic called Tartare at P Street Whole Foods. Definitely best Berliner I've had. Better than Westbrook Gose. Maybe the best under-5% beer I've had of any style.

Has anybody seen in in bottles?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/610/75491/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 04, 2015, 04:05:16 pm
Had a pour of the Berliner Weisse by Bear Republic called Tartare at P Street Whole Foods. Definitely best Berliner I've had. Better than Westbrook Gose. Maybe the best under-5% beer I've had of any style.

Has anybody seen in in bottles?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/610/75491/



Very funny you mention this beer as I never heard of it and had a glass of it last night at City Tap House. I found it WAAAAAAAAAY too tart and it caused immediate acid reflux (personal problem).

I enjoyed the glass of Birrificio del Ducato Chrysopolis much more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 04, 2015, 04:27:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
. . . and it caused immediate acid reflux . . .
Sounds like a personal problem.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 04, 2015, 04:31:44 pm
I had an Olympia last night because Sweetcell took all the fancy beers he bought during his visit home with him....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 04, 2015, 04:33:24 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 04, 2015, 04:27:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
. . . and it caused immediate acid reflux (personal problem) . . .
Sounds like a personal problem.

Sounds like a reading comprehension problem.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:34:09 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 04, 2015, 04:27:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
. . . and it caused immediate acid reflux . . .
Sounds like a personal problem.

Thanks for driving that home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 04, 2015, 04:36:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:34:09 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 04, 2015, 04:27:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
. . . and it caused immediate acid reflux . . .
Sounds like a personal problem.

Thanks for driving that home.
You're welcome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 04, 2015, 04:37:19 pm
Quote from: jaded on September 04, 2015, 04:33:24 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 04, 2015, 04:27:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
. . . and it caused immediate acid reflux (personal problem) . . .
Sounds like a personal problem.

Sounds like a reading comprehension problem.
That, also, sounds like a personal problem.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 04, 2015, 04:38:46 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 04, 2015, 04:31:44 pm
I had an Olympia last night because Sweetcell took all the fancy beers he bought during his visit home with him....
This, arguably, is also a personal problem.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 04, 2015, 04:40:40 pm
I got nothing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 04, 2015, 04:41:23 pm
Quote from: Hutch on September 04, 2015, 04:40:40 pm
I got nothing.
Now, see, poverty is not a personal problem, it's a societal one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 04, 2015, 07:18:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 04, 2015, 04:05:16 pm
Had a pour of the Berliner Weisse by Bear Republic called Tartare at P Street Whole Foods. Definitely best Berliner I've had. Better than Westbrook Gose. Maybe the best under-5% beer I've had of any style.

Has anybody seen in in bottles?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/610/75491/



Very funny you mention this beer as I never heard of it and had a glass of it last night at City Tap House. I found it WAAAAAAAAAY too tart and it caused immediate acid reflux (personal problem).

I enjoyed the glass of Birrificio del Ducato Chrysopolis much more.

I had taken a Tums 20 minutes before that, so I was good to go. I had read that it was very tart, and i wasn't disappointed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 06, 2015, 06:45:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 04, 2015, 04:05:16 pm
Had a pour of the Berliner Weisse by Bear Republic called Tartare at P Street Whole Foods. Definitely best Berliner I've had. Better than Westbrook Gose. Maybe the best under-5% beer I've had of any style.

Has anybody seen in in bottles?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/610/75491/



Very funny you mention this beer as I never heard of it and had a glass of it last night at City Tap House. I found it WAAAAAAAAAY too tart and it caused immediate acid reflux (personal problem).

I enjoyed the glass of Birrificio del Ducato Chrysopolis much more.

Wow, $12 for a snifter of the Tartare at City Taphouse. It was $5 at P Street, and they just about filled  a 16 oz plastic cup for me. (also $15 for a 64 oz growler)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 08, 2015, 08:43:02 am
Had a north coast brewery, puck the beer, petite saison. Good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 08, 2015, 08:51:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 06, 2015, 06:45:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 04, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 04, 2015, 04:05:16 pm
Had a pour of the Berliner Weisse by Bear Republic called Tartare at P Street Whole Foods. Definitely best Berliner I've had. Better than Westbrook Gose. Maybe the best under-5% beer I've had of any style.

Has anybody seen in in bottles?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/610/75491/



Very funny you mention this beer as I never heard of it and had a glass of it last night at City Tap House. I found it WAAAAAAAAAY too tart and it caused immediate acid reflux (personal problem).

I enjoyed the glass of Birrificio del Ducato Chrysopolis much more.

Wow, $12 for a snifter of the Tartare at City Taphouse. It was $5 at P Street, and they just about filled  a 16 oz plastic cup for me. (also $15 for a 64 oz growler)

Thanks for the cost comparison.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2015, 10:12:56 am
the LoCo Ale Trail
(http://www.northernvirginiamag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Ale-Trail-poster-387x550.jpg)
Loudoun County?s brewery boom spurs launch of ale trail (http://www.northernvirginiamag.com/gut-check/2015/09/04/loudoun-countys-brewery-boom-spurs-launch-of-ale-trail/)

Here is a PDF (http://www.visitloudoun.org/sites/default/files/vl-ale-mapprint-l.pdf) that you can fold up and fit in your bike bag
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 08, 2015, 11:02:35 am
that's really cool.  glad to see this taking shape!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 08, 2015, 12:22:26 pm
ahh good ole Loudoun county, where one can spend, and spend some more. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 08, 2015, 12:23:39 pm
Heineken is buying 50% of Lagunitas
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 08, 2015, 12:26:29 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 08, 2015, 12:23:39 pm
Heineken is buying 50% of Lagunitas
 
what.

the.

fuck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 08, 2015, 12:27:05 pm
Heineken . . . fuck that shit . . . pabst, blue, ribbon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 08, 2015, 12:46:34 pm
I'm guessing a deal to help with int'l distribution and hold off InBev.

Good for Tony - he's worked hard and earned it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2015, 01:08:13 pm
Mad Fox 4th Annual Hoppy Oktoberfest
Beer Lineup Revealed
Saturday, Sept. 19, Noon

We?re excited to give you a sneak preview of the beer lineup for Hoppy Oktoberfest taking place all day from Noon until 6pm on Saturday, Sept. 19. In addition to our Hitzig Frau Oktoberfest and some other Mad Fox favorites, the lineup consists of the following hoppy and seasonal brews to date:

3 Stars ? Dissonance, Ghost IPA
Adroit Theory - Don't Believe The Hype IPA, Lux Wheatwine
Atlas Brewing Company - Wet Hop American, Summer Rowdy
Bad Wolf Brewing Company - Cody's Crew, Mango IPA
Bold Rock Cider - IPA, Virginia Draft
Brothers Craft Brewing
Capitol City Brewing Company - Smoketoberfest
DC Brau - The Public, Oktoberfest
Devils Backbone Brewing Company - Eight Point IPA, Oktoberfest
DuClaw Brewing Company - Mad Bishop Oktoberfest, Neon Gypsy IPA
Fair Winds Brewing Company - Nauti Fest Oktoberfest, Sessions in the Abyss IPA
Flying Dog Brewing Company - Dogtoberfest Marzen, Gourd Standard Pumpkin IPA
Forge Brew Works
Full Tilt Brewing Company - The Bay IPA, Hop Harbor
Gordon Biersch ? Festbier, IPL
Great American Restaurants/Sweetwater GAR ? Oktoberfest, Rode Hard IPA
Heavy Seas Brewing Company
Heritage Brewing Co. - Freedom Isn't Free IPA, Bradford Harvest Ale
Legend ? Oktoberfest, Golden English IPA
Oliver Breweries

Ornery Beer Company
Port City Brewing Company ? Oktoberfest, Maniacal Double IPA
Spencer Devon Brewing Company - Ellerslie Farm Harvest Ale, Lauck's Island West Coast IPA

In addition to these fine choices, we?re also showcasing Ayinger, Warsteiner and Paulaner imported Oktoberfest biers at the outdoor festival.

The O-Fest food menu from Chef Travis will feature such classics with a Mad Fox twist:

Grilled locally sourced beer poached bratwurst with Bavarian mustard and kraut,
Warm German potato salad, bacon and parsley, and vinaigrette,
Pretzel twist with Bavarian mustard

Bring your friends and enjoy this outdoor event with kids activities and live music from The Justin Trawick Band. Free admission; tickets required for tasting glass and beer sample/food tickets. Find updates here. (http://madfoxbrewing.com/content/4th-annual-hoppy-oktoberfest)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 08, 2015, 02:12:56 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 08, 2015, 12:46:34 pm
I'm guessing a deal to help with int'l distribution and hold off InBev.

Good for Tony - he's worked hard and earned it.

tony definitely deserves all the riches that come his way.  and i doubt that he would agree to any deal that tool away his control, or at least too much of it.

my WTF statement is about him selling to a big corp at all.  in the craft beer world, tony has been one of the most vocal opponents of Big Beer.  his twitter rants are legendary.  he's come up with many colorful ways of saying "i'd rather <insert colorful activity here> than sell out to Big Beer".  i wouldn't say WTF if Stone or Sierra Nevada sold to a an international beer company... but Lagunitas?  wtf?

there are so many hilarious stories about tony.  like back in the day, when Lagunitas was a lot smaller than it is today, they were total pot-smoking hippies.  the california ABC wanted to bust them for trafficking but couldn't: every time an undercover officer tried to buy pot from an employee, they insisted on giving it away to the cop... they wouldn't let him buy it.  eventually they got them on a RICO-style bust: people were smoking on the property at a public event and shut them down for a year.  Cue up Undercover Shut-Down Ale... the story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfW3MWqkpW4

tony also engaged in some really uh, creative accounting practices to stay ahead of the IRS.  some really funny stories there ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 08, 2015, 09:22:50 pm
resistance is apparently futile in the craft beer industry.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 11, 2015, 11:40:48 am
Stone's next new release: "Your Father Smelt of Elderberries" ;D

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/stone-your-father-smelt-of-elderberries.331661/

(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah91/sittinggc/Stone-Stochasticity-Project-Your-Father-Smelt-of-Elderberries_zpsgaiqiauj.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 11, 2015, 11:46:41 am
but, does it fart, in our general direction?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 11, 2015, 12:39:11 pm
I tried one of these last night. The Sam Adams version of hard root beer, not the Pabst/STB version. First time I had to drain pour a bottle of "beer" in a long time. Good thing I had a bottle of the Truth cold to take its place, and good thing I only bought one of these.

(https://mercireviews.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/img_2841.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 11, 2015, 01:21:38 pm
really?  I sort of like the other one, not your father,s rootbeer.  my partner hates beer, and loves the stuff.  I will try the sam adams one, and give my opinion.  I think, that you are too much a snob, to give a honest review, though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 11, 2015, 01:29:44 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on September 11, 2015, 01:21:38 pm
really?  I sort of like the other one, not your father,s rootbeer.  my partner hates beer, and loves the stuff.  I will try the sam adams one, and give my opinion.  I think, that you are too much a snob, to give a honest review, though.

I, bet, he like its,, because, it doesn't, taste, like............ beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 11, 2015, 01:37:21 pm
I actually just went across the street to Total Wine and More to get some Bell's for guests coming over tomorrow to watch football, and found a few four packs of Gwar's Oderus Ale which immediately sent me into a cold panic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 11, 2015, 01:41:25 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on September 11, 2015, 01:21:38 pm
really?  I sort of like the other one, not your father,s rootbeer.  my partner hates beer, and loves the stuff.  I will try the sam adams one, and give my opinion.  I think, that you are too much a snob, to give a honest review, though.

It tasted like root beer (which I'm ok with) with some kind of weirdly awful medicinal aftertaste on top of that.

The Sam Adams one has been described as more "spice" while the Pabst one has been described as "much sweeter".  A lot of "spice" beers tend to rub me the wrong way...

Interestingly, Whole Foods refuses to sell the Not Your Fathers because it has artificial ingredients, but they do sell the Coney Island.


If I were a true snob, I wouldn't have followed it up with a Flying Dog beer.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 11, 2015, 01:44:57 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 11, 2015, 01:37:21 pm
I actually just went across the street to Total Wine and More to get some Bell's for guests coming over tomorrow to watch football, and found a few four packs of Gwar's Oderus Ale which immediately sent me into a cold panic.

I don't normally seek out Bell's beer (though give me a Two Hearted and I'm a happy man)...but I'm hoping to have one of these tonight on draft.

http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/29-The%20Wild%20One%20Ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 11, 2015, 01:53:52 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 11, 2015, 01:44:57 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 11, 2015, 01:37:21 pm
I actually just went across the street to Total Wine and More to get some Bell's for guests coming over tomorrow to watch football, and found a few four packs of Gwar's Oderus Ale which immediately sent me into a cold panic.

I don't normally seek out Bell's beer (though give me a Two Hearted and I'm a happy man)...but I'm hoping to have one of these tonight on draft.

http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/29-The%20Wild%20One%20Ale

Hmm, I've never heard about that one. My local pub has a great relationship with the Virginia Bell's rep and gets most of the unusual stuff but not that yet. They've currently got Traverse City Barrel Aged Porter -- which was really unusual (11.7abv) -- and Two Hearted on tap and Neptune and Oracle in bottles. If you like Two-Hearted, if you can ever find Oracle, give it a try. DIPA but quite as bitter as Hopslam.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on September 12, 2015, 03:16:34 am
I've been wanting to try Bell's Wild One for years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 12, 2015, 08:48:39 am
Quote from: Unsanity on September 12, 2015, 03:16:34 am
I've been wanting to try Bell's Wild One for years.

It's excellent. We had two on draft and brought home 32 oz in growler ($5 what a steal).

It's been on draft at Whole Foods Fair Lakes for several days now. Grab it if you can.

Or you could pay $85-$150 for a bottle of it online.

http://mybeercellar.com/?itm=37425
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on September 14, 2015, 12:51:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2015, 08:48:39 am
Quote from: Unsanity on September 12, 2015, 03:16:34 am
I've been wanting to try Bell's Wild One for years.

It's excellent. We had two on draft and brought home 32 oz in growler ($5 what a steal).

It's been on draft at Whole Foods Fair Lakes for several days now. Grab it if you can.

Or you could pay $85-$150 for a bottle of it online.

http://mybeercellar.com/?itm=37425
I wish I would have seen this sooner haha. I went there to check it out and it appears to be gone. Foiled again! I don't think I'll be getting any of those bottles haha.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2015, 02:06:20 pm
Warning: trip report.

My wife wanted to try a new pick your own apple place this year, so I admit, I looked for one with breweries on the route.

We found one five minutes from Adroit Theory, so figured we'd have a couple of beers there. Unfortunately, they were having a private event with their "Black Heart Society" (Was Joan Jett there)? So we didn't get in.

Fortunately, Corcoran Brewing was two minutes away. They had a nice group of 60+ musicians playing Celtic fiddle music (which was much more our speed than the prerecorded metal they play at Adoit). We shared two beers...a bourbon barrel aged DIPA with ghost peppers, and a bourbon aged imperial stout. Both were decent.

After picking apples, we stopped off at Ocelot and sampled the DIPA, two IPA's, a black IPA, and the imperial stout. All were good or better. The winners were Never Ending Maze, an "almost DIPA" that was quite simply awesome (better than the Kiss the Sky DIPA which is excellent), and My Only Friend, the imperial stout which I would say compares with Old Rasputin (more bitter than sweet).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2015, 02:25:21 pm
So what Orchard did you hit?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 14, 2015, 02:28:09 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 14, 2015, 02:25:21 pm
So what Orchard did you hit?
To be fair, that conversation should probably be moved over to the Apple Thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2015, 02:29:41 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 14, 2015, 02:28:09 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 14, 2015, 02:25:21 pm
So what Orchard did you hit?
To be fair, that conversation should probably be moved over to the Apple Thread.
Well it is beer related as I thought the route planning was something I might do
But didn't know of any orchards out by Dulles?  (they all tend to be up by Germantown)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 02:40:34 pm
Here's what Smackie is serving at his reception:

Knee Deep Hoptologist Double IPA
21st Amendment Hell or High Watermelon or Fireside Chat
Anchor California Lager
Bear Republic Hop Rod
New Belgium Snapshot
Deschutes Porter
10 Barrel Joe IPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2015, 02:44:07 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 14, 2015, 02:29:41 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 14, 2015, 02:28:09 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 14, 2015, 02:25:21 pm
So what Orchard did you hit?
To be fair, that conversation should probably be moved over to the Apple Thread.
Well it is beer related as I thought the route planning was something I might do
But didn't know of any orchards out by Dulles?  (they all tend to be up by Germantown)


Crooked Run Orchard in Purcellville. About five minutes from Adroit Theory (and Corcoran, and Belly Love). We did see a couple of cyclists stopping in for a beer at Corcoran (are there trails out there?), and I actually thought of you and your VA bike/beer travels.

Ocelot (near Dulles) is sort of on our route back from there. At least close enough to make a detour, given how good their beer is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2015, 03:24:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 14, 2015, 02:44:07 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 14, 2015, 02:29:41 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 14, 2015, 02:28:09 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 14, 2015, 02:25:21 pm
So what Orchard did you hit?
To be fair, that conversation should probably be moved over to the Apple Thread.
Well it is beer related as I thought the route planning was something I might do
But didn't know of any orchards out by Dulles?  (they all tend to be up by Germantown)



Crooked Run Orchard in Purcellville. About five minutes from Adroit Theory (and Corcoran, and Belly Love). We did see a couple of cyclists stopping in for a beer at Corcoran (are there trails out there?), and I actually thought of you and your VA bike/beer travels.

Ocelot (near Dulles) is sort of on our route back from there. At least close enough to make a detour, given how good their beer is.
Purcellville is the end of the Wo&D trail, almost 50 miles from Regan Airport
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on September 14, 2015, 03:24:59 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 02:40:34 pm
Here's what Smackie is serving at his reception:

Knee Deep Hoptologist Double IPA
21st Amendment Hell or High Watermelon or Fireside Chat
Anchor California Lager
Bear Republic Hop Rod
New Belgium Snapshot
Deschutes Porter
10 Barrel Joe IPA

Quote from: vansmack on March 13, 2015, 03:41:25 pm
Quote from: ggw on March 13, 2015, 03:10:10 pm
https://twitter.com/BartenderRants/status/376168454606168064


Ding Ding

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 04:33:50 pm
Quote from: ggw on September 14, 2015, 03:24:59 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 02:40:34 pm
Here's what Smackie is serving at his reception:

Knee Deep Hoptologist Double IPA
21st Amendment Hell or High Watermelon or Fireside Chat
Anchor California Lager
Bear Republic Hop Rod
New Belgium Snapshot
Deschutes Porter
10 Barrel Joe IPA

Quote from: vansmack on March 13, 2015, 03:41:25 pm
Quote from: ggw on March 13, 2015, 03:10:10 pm
https://twitter.com/BartenderRants/status/376168454606168064


Ding Ding



Those aren't for me ggw, those are for the people...

I'm having Mumm Brut Prestige, Justin Cab, Unti Barbera, Sonoma-Cutrer Chard, and Bancrott Suav Blanc.

And then Venerable or Godsshoeshine or the Director will bring me Macallan 18 at around 10:30, with a Death Star Ice Cube. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2015, 04:54:43 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 04:33:50 pm
the Director
Who is this 'the Director'
I received an odd personal message about some music from decades ago and he's oft referenced
but never actually posts
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 05:12:08 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on September 14, 2015, 04:54:43 pm
Who is this 'the Director'

(https://media.giphy.com/media/R0TrhAtNeUC0E/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 14, 2015, 05:17:32 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 02:40:34 pm
Here's what Smackie is serving at his reception:

Knee Deep Hoptologist Double IPA
21st Amendment Hell or High Watermelon or Fireside Chat
Anchor California Lager
Bear Republic Hop Rod
New Belgium Snapshot
Deschutes Porter
10 Barrel Joe IPA

fine selection, for a wedding! 

how can you tell this shin-dog is happening on the west coast?  hum... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 05:20:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 14, 2015, 05:17:32 pm
how can you tell this shin-dog is happening on the west coast?  hum... ;D

The wine...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2015, 03:54:43 pm
New DC beer about to enter the getting kinda crowed scene


Handsome Beer (http://www.handsomebeer.co)
but just contract brewing, so don't look for any brewery tours

full slate of events (http://dcbeer.com/news/handsome-brewing-launches-next-week-full-slate-events) starting next week



?Chapter 1: Launching Your Brewery - Sun, Sept 20 - Glen's Garden Market - 12pm-4pm
?Chapter 2: Launching In Baltimore - Tues, Sept 22 - Max's Taphouse - 4-8pm
?Chapter 3: Home Brewing! - Wed, Sept 23 - Meridian Pint - 5-8pm
?Chapter 4: Happy Hour! - Thu, Sept 24 - Pizzeria Paradiso Dupont - 5-7pm
?Chapter 5: Propagation! - Fri, Sept 25 - Smaltimore - 4-8pm
?Chapter 6: Belgian Tradition - Sun, Sept 27 - Granville Moore's - 6-9pm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 16, 2015, 04:44:25 pm
one of the guys who started Handsome beer (Matt) is a long-time member of the DC Homebrewers club.  he's been brewing great beer for some time now.  looking forward to trying it soon!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 16, 2015, 05:58:15 pm
but, is he handsome?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 16, 2015, 06:03:02 pm
dunno, i'm a horrible judge of what is generally accepted as attractive in a man.  check out the website, matt is the bearded one - you tell me!

fyi i'm pretty sure they're saying the beer is handsome, not the brewers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 16, 2015, 06:12:05 pm
just looked, and you know, photos are funny.  you look at one and at that distinct moment in time, that is how that person looks to you . . . until you see another photo of them or meet them.  they are both not horrible looking in the photos, but not super hot or grinder instafuckable; that,s two dates in poontang.  but that is just off one photo, from who knows when, and they may not even really look like that right this very moment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on September 17, 2015, 09:10:30 am
Finally hit up Tree House while I was visiting my parents in Albany this past weekend. About a two hour drive each way - thankfully it was very much worth the drive. Julius is a fantastic IPA but I was fortunate enough to visit when they produced a one-off IPA dubbed In Perpetuity. By the time I arrived they were out of cans of it but at least they still had it on tap so I bought a few bottles (you have to buy their growler/glassware on top of that - MA state law). In Perpetuity was better than Julius IMHO, so that's saying a lot. Was also able to score a few bottles of Double Shot which is probably my favorite coffee stout, as well as cans of That's What She Said and Eureka, both of which are very solid beers.

Brought an extra suitcase to pack all my cans, and separately packaged the bottles in a box with bubble wrap and packing paper and everything arrived intact (I event went overboard by using electrical tape for the caps and putting each bottle in a huge resealable bag in case of breakage). Southwest and their two free checked bags FTW!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 17, 2015, 09:40:59 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on September 17, 2015, 09:10:30 am
Finally hit up Tree House while I was visiting my parents in Albany this past weekend. About a two hour drive each way - thankfully it was very much worth the drive. Julius is a fantastic IPA but I was fortunate enough to visit when they produced a one-off IPA dubbed In Perpetuity. By the time I arrived they were out of cans of it but at least they still had it on tap so I bought a few bottles (you have to buy their growler/glassware on top of that - MA state law). In Perpetuity was better than Julius IMHO, so that's saying a lot. Was also able to score a few bottles of Double Shot which is probably my favorite coffee stout, as well as cans of That's What She Said and Eureka, both of which are very solid beers.

Brought an extra suitcase to pack all my cans, and separately packaged the bottles in a box with bubble wrap and packing paper and everything arrived intact (I event went overboard by using electrical tape for the caps and putting each bottle in a huge resealable bag in case of breakage). Southwest and their two free checked bags FTW!

Wow, that sounds like an awesome trip and awesome haul! When will you be hosting the next Forum bottle share?  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 17, 2015, 11:17:12 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on September 17, 2015, 09:10:30 am
Southwest and their two free checked bags FTW!

seriously.  i don't know if i'll ever fly another airline again when going to a beer-centric destination.  a few times now i've brought a second suitcase that was empty save for bubble wrap.  it comes back packed with nothing but beer ;D 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 17, 2015, 11:40:00 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 17, 2015, 11:17:12 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on September 17, 2015, 09:10:30 am
Southwest and their two free checked bags FTW!

seriously.  i don't know if i'll ever fly another airline again when going to a beer-centric destination.  a few times now i've brought a second suitcase that was empty save for bubble wrap.  it comes back packed with nothing but beer ;D 

If only Southwest flew to Burlington.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 17, 2015, 11:51:52 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 17, 2015, 11:17:12 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on September 17, 2015, 09:10:30 am
Southwest and their two free checked bags FTW!

seriously.  i don't know if i'll ever fly another airline again when going to a beer-centric destination.  a few times now i've brought a second suitcase that was empty save for bubble wrap.  it comes back packed with nothing but beer ;D 

hehehe...we've flown Southwest to Tampa and Portland/Seattle this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2015, 12:41:32 pm
Do they not ship beer like they do wine?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 17, 2015, 01:01:35 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 17, 2015, 12:41:32 pm
Do they not ship beer like they do wine?

sure, but shipping can get expensive and can be a pain.  one thing that wine has over beer is that shipping is much more common.  wine shops and vinyards sometimes have shippers, boxes and packing material, etc available on site.  this is almost non-existent in the beer scene so you need to drag it with you or scramble on site to find it (taking time and money).

i have shipped beer back to myself.  it's a lot simpler to pack in a free suitcase.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2015, 02:43:30 pm
Yet another reason to drink wine and fly only where Virgin flies....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on September 17, 2015, 03:11:52 pm
I actually went to Home Depot they day before leaving and got a small moving box, bubble wrap, and electrical tape (to keep the bottle seals shut - these were Tree House bottles so they weren't capped like most retail bombers). That way I wouldn't have to stress out about bottles breaking in my suitcase and leaving my clothes and luggage stinking of beer.

When I checked the box, the Southwest attendant asked what was inside and I told him beer. He asked where I went and I said Massachusetts to which he replied, "Oh, so you went to Tree House? Have you had their Julius?" He was also quite knowledgable about all the Heady case deliveries in Vermont, too. So yeah, BEER DORKS EVERYWHERE!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 17, 2015, 03:18:38 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on September 17, 2015, 03:11:52 pm
I actually went to Home Depot they day before leaving and got a small moving box, bubble wrap, and electrical tape (to keep the bottle seals shut - these were Tree House bottles so they weren't capped like most retail bombers). That way I wouldn't have to stress out about bottles breaking in my suitcase and leaving my clothes and luggage stinking of beer.

When I checked the box, the Southwest attendant asked what was inside and I told him beer. He asked where I went and I said Massachusetts to which he replied, "Oh, so you went to Tree House? Have you had their Julius?" He was also quite knowledgable about all the Heady case deliveries in Vermont, too. So yeah, BEER DORKS EVERYWHERE!
Cool story, Britt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 17, 2015, 03:18:48 pm
Quote from: Julian, Verified SHITLORD on September 17, 2015, 03:18:38 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on September 17, 2015, 03:11:52 pm
I actually went to Home Depot they day before leaving and got a small moving box, bubble wrap, and electrical tape (to keep the bottle seals shut - these were Tree House bottles so they weren't capped like most retail bombers). That way I wouldn't have to stress out about bottles breaking in my suitcase and leaving my clothes and luggage stinking of beer.

When I checked the box, the Southwest attendant asked what was inside and I told him beer. He asked where I went and I said Massachusetts to which he replied, "Oh, so you went to Tree House? Have you had their Julius?" He was also quite knowledgable about all the Heady case deliveries in Vermont, too. So yeah, BEER DORKS EVERYWHERE!
Cool story, Britt.
I mean, Brett.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 17, 2015, 05:32:17 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on September 17, 2015, 03:11:52 pm
I actually went to Home Depot they day before leaving and got a small moving box, bubble wrap, and electrical tape (to keep the bottle seals shut - these were Tree House bottles so they weren't capped like most retail bombers). That way I wouldn't have to stress out about bottles breaking in my suitcase and leaving my clothes and luggage stinking of beer.

When I checked the box, the Southwest attendant asked what was inside and I told him beer. He asked where I went and I said Massachusetts to which he replied, "Oh, so you went to Tree House? Have you had their Julius?" He was also quite knowledgable about all the Heady case deliveries in Vermont, too. So yeah, BEER DORKS EVERYWHERE!

As Dungeons and Dragons slowly goes out of business.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 17, 2015, 06:21:59 pm
beer dork, is that what it is?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 17, 2015, 07:00:58 pm
Quote from: Hutch on September 17, 2015, 06:21:59 pm
beer dork, is that what it is?

like a record collector dork, but tastier  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 18, 2015, 04:27:19 pm
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--n5mzZxLq--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1436324571195748238.jpg)

Some pub for a local brew

http://adequateman.deadspin.com/a-hot-pepper-ipa-for-tasteful-tough-guys-1731331813
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 25, 2015, 10:41:28 am
Perhaps the most misappropriately named beer I've had in awhile, Trinity Red Swingline IPA is actually a golden colored American Wild Ale, with zero hoppiness. Whatever, it was awesome sour greatness. Wish I had bought more when I was in Colorado last year.

(http://www.mustlovebeer.com/public/album_photo/08/97/9671_4f65.jpg?c=4e07)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 25, 2015, 11:17:57 am
man, want to try that TPS report one they have soo bad
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on September 25, 2015, 02:22:33 pm
Anyone hitting Make it Funky Fest at Denizens?  I'll be there.  I'm a sucker for some pucker. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 25, 2015, 02:26:37 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on September 25, 2015, 02:22:33 pm
Anyone hitting Make it Funky Fest at Denizens?  I'll be there.  I'm a sucker for some pucker. 
damn sounds awesome...but alas can't make it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2015, 03:25:36 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on September 25, 2015, 02:22:33 pm
Anyone hitting Make it Funky Fest at Denizens?  I'll be there.  I'm a sucker for some pucker. 

Considering it... I have a good friend's 40th that evening + would like to hit BtS at the club, so could be the recipe for a very, very long day. So most likely, not...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 25, 2015, 10:28:22 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 04:33:50 pm
Quote from: ggw on September 14, 2015, 03:24:59 pm
Quote from: vansmack on September 14, 2015, 02:40:34 pm
Here's what Smackie is serving at his reception:

Knee Deep Hoptologist Double IPA
21st Amendment Hell or High Watermelon or Fireside Chat
Anchor California Lager
Bear Republic Hop Rod
New Belgium Snapshot
Deschutes Porter
10 Barrel Joe IPA

Quote from: vansmack on March 13, 2015, 03:41:25 pm
Quote from: ggw on March 13, 2015, 03:10:10 pm
https://twitter.com/BartenderRants/status/376168454606168064


Ding Ding



Those aren't for me ggw, those are for the people...

I'm having Mumm Brut Prestige, Justin Cab, Unti Barbera, Sonoma-Cutrer Chard, and Bancrott Suav Blanc.

And then Venerable or Godsshoeshine or the Director will bring me Macallan 18 at around 10:30, with a Death Star Ice Cube. 


WAIT

the director is going to be there??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 26, 2015, 04:26:30 pm
Port City wins "Best Small Brewery" at Great American Beer Fest. Port City? Really?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 26, 2015, 06:36:40 pm
Quote from: godsshoeshine on September 25, 2015, 10:28:22 pm
WAIT

the director is going to be there??

I don't think any other DJ on the planet, save for maybe Kosmo, would take on the task of DJing my wedding...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 28, 2015, 12:19:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 26, 2015, 04:26:30 pm
Port City wins "Best Small Brewery" at Great American Beer Fest. Port City? Really?

I'm no beer awards expert, but my guess is winning something at this festival is equivalent to winning a Grammy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 28, 2015, 12:35:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 28, 2015, 12:19:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 26, 2015, 04:26:30 pm
Port City wins "Best Small Brewery" at Great American Beer Fest. Port City? Really?

I'm no beer awards expert, but my guess is winning something at this festival is equivalent to winning a Grammy.

Devil's Backbone won the same award back in 2013. Another "meh" Virginia brewery, imo.

I remember posting something to that effect on a Beer Advocate forum, and I was crucified for saying it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 28, 2015, 01:09:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 28, 2015, 12:19:23 pm
I'm no beer awards expert, but my guess is winning something at this festival is equivalent to winning a Grammy.

that's not a bad analogy.

beer competitions about brewing to style.  looking at the categories port city won in (pasted below), those probably aren't exciting styles to you but port city does brew solid examples of those styles as defined by-the-book.  that'll win you competitions.  imperial IPAs and sours are much more exciting styles, but unless such someone wins 3+ medals for them breweries like port city are going to be crowned.  if it's any consolation, firestone walker won for mid-sized, and rip current for very small brewery.  i believe they meet with your approval.

Medal    Beer Name   Brewery   City   State   Category   Year
Silver:
Monumental IPA   Port City Brewing Co.   Alexandria   VA   English-Style India Pale Ale   2015
Bronze:
Optimal Wit   Port City Brewing Co.   Alexandria   VA   Belgian-Style Witbier   2015
Silver:
Porter   Port City Brewing Co.   Alexandria   VA   Robust Porter   2015
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 28, 2015, 01:48:12 pm
Woohoo. Jai Alai apparently making its return to NoVA after being absent for a year straight.

Also, the witbier and the porter at Port City are pretty solid. The IPA is pretty terrible (78 on Beer Advocate, 51/29 on Ratebeer). Still don't see how they are the "best small brewery". Whatever!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 29, 2015, 04:56:08 pm
I am, a sucker, for suggestive commercialization . . . so I bought this for the bottle, but it turns out to be good.

(http://i1.wp.com/queencitydrinks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Great-Lakes-Nosferatu-Beer-Review.jpg?resize=660%2C501)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on September 29, 2015, 04:57:02 pm
and I had a coney island root beer thing beer.  horr,ible.  like really, man.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: slappy on September 30, 2015, 04:03:39 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on September 29, 2015, 04:57:02 pm
and I had a coney island root beer thing beer.  horr,ible.  like really, man.

It's good as a mixer with a middle shelf rum, like a 8 year old Bacardi.
I can see why Alchemy & Science/Boston Beer purchased it from Schmaltz.  It goes with the lighter, sweet shandy stuff they make with The Traveler (which also makes good cocktails/mixers).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 30, 2015, 06:54:21 pm
Sad week for craft beer lovers who shop at Whole Foods, as WF has basically fired the beer buyers at all their stores. No doubt supply and selection and service will suffer greatly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 01, 2015, 09:15:59 am
Guinness made a Nitro IPA and it's terrible

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/guinness-made-a-nitro-ipa-and-its-terrible


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2015, 09:36:01 am
so few thoughts
1. typically don't get my beer advice from USAtoday (that still exists?)
2. Why are they wearing their protective glasses for the sit down interview
3. 'ultra-hopped'
4. I've always wondered why more beers weren't using the nitrogen pour as a way to make something 'different' in the market.  But makes sense why it works well on porters/stouts (again why aren't more craft brewers doing this with their porters/stouts) But I wonder if a little more experimentation is needed with this. As a lot of bars have nitrogen available (maybe Guinness has a deal where the bar can't use that for any other drafts?)
5. most BA reviews say it's not that hoppy (IPA?!), tastes flat and is remarkably unremarkable
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2015, 09:46:46 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 30, 2015, 06:54:21 pm
Sad week for craft beer lovers who shop at Whole Foods, as WF has basically fired the beer buyers at all their stores. No doubt supply and selection and service will suffer greatly.

is this for real???  wtf?  do they think good and unique beer is going to find its own way on to their shelves?

i'll be checking in on my downtown WF tomorrow... i hope my beer guy is still there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 01, 2015, 10:03:47 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 01, 2015, 09:46:46 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 30, 2015, 06:54:21 pm
Sad week for craft beer lovers who shop at Whole Foods, as WF has basically fired the beer buyers at all their stores. No doubt supply and selection and service will suffer greatly.

is this for real???  wtf?  do they think good and unique beer is going to find its own way on to their shelves?

i'll be checking in on my downtown WF tomorrow... i hope my beer guy is still there.

Best I can tell, totally real.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/whole-foods-beer-specialists-laid-off.339367/

I've gathered more info about a couple of beer guys in particular by reading some employee Facebook pages, but it's probably not cool to share that kind of info on a public forum like this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 01, 2015, 01:07:26 pm
the good news is this'll probably open up the market for more specialty markets and bottleshops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 01, 2015, 01:12:45 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on October 01, 2015, 01:07:26 pm
the good news is this'll probably open up the market for more specialty markets and bottleshops.

More places with 30-50% markup above Whole Foods or Total Wine where you have to spend a fortune or kiss someone's ass to get the rare stuff.

Woohoo! Right on.

Not that I'm happy about shopping at a company that just shit on it's workers though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2015, 01:28:20 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 01, 2015, 01:12:45 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on October 01, 2015, 01:07:26 pm
the good news is this'll probably open up the market for more specialty markets and bottleshops.

More places with 30-50% markup above Whole Foods or Total Wine where you have to spend a fortune or kiss someone's ass to get the rare stuff.

Woohoo! Right on.

Not that I'm happy about shopping at a company that just shit on it's workers though.
gotta agree with SF on that, price and selection has been pretty darn good at WF
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 01, 2015, 01:52:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 01, 2015, 01:12:45 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on October 01, 2015, 01:07:26 pm
the good news is this'll probably open up the market for more specialty markets and bottleshops.

More places with 30-50% markup above Whole Foods or Total Wine where you have to spend a fortune or kiss someone's ass to get the rare stuff.

Woohoo! Right on.

Not that I'm happy about shopping at a company that just shit on it's workers though.

you're dumb
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 01, 2015, 03:50:19 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on October 01, 2015, 01:52:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 01, 2015, 01:12:45 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner on October 01, 2015, 01:07:26 pm
the good news is this'll probably open up the market for more specialty markets and bottleshops.

More places with 30-50% markup above Whole Foods or Total Wine where you have to spend a fortune or kiss someone's ass to get the rare stuff.

Woohoo! Right on.

Not that I'm happy about shopping at a company that just shit on it's workers though.

you're dumb

BOOM! You got me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2015, 08:20:09 am
The Shelton Brothers Festival in St Petersburg is the place to be NEXT weekend. Who can argue with this list?

The Festival 2015 ? Bottle & Tap List


18th Street
 VIP: Sour Note Blackberry Gose & Deal With the Devil
 All Sessions: For Rent Single-Hop Citra Pale
 Session 1: Hunter Vanilla Double Milk Stout
 Session 2: Forman Coffee Porter
 Session 3: Sour Note Flanders

7venth Sun
 All Sessions: TimeBomb Session IPA

8 Wired
 VIP: Mighty Imperial Ale
 All Sessions: Saison Sauvin
 Sessions 1 and 2: Wild Feijoa
 Session 3: Batch 2.18

Amager
 VIP: Double Black Mash
 All Sessions: Chad, King of the Wild Yeast (Crooked Stave collaboration)
 Session 1: Shadow Pictures (Grassroots collaboration)
 Session 2: Lawrence of Arabica (18th Street collaboration)
 Session 3: The Amazing Gotland Campfire Beer (Malmö collaboration)

Argus
 Session 1: Ciderkin & Malus Cuvée
 Session 2: Ginger Perry & Perennial
 Session 3: Tepache (pineapple wine) & Ciderkin

Arizona Wilderness
 All Sessions: Suit and tiePA
 Session 1: Grape Bear Wallow Berliner Weisse
 Session 2: American Presidential Stout
 Session 3: Sour Guy Rye

Art Bev Coop
 All Sessions: Ginger Libation

Bagby
 ALT in the Family
 Reconnoiter Porter
 Weissenhopper
 Pesky Neighbor

Baird
 VIP: Temple Garden Yuzu
 All Sessions: Wabi-Sabi
 Session 1 & 3: Natsumikan Ale
 Session 2: Numazu Lager

Beachwood
 All Sessions: Hop Ramen & Onyx Imperial Stout

Blaugies
 All Sessions: La Vermontoise (Hill Farmstead collaboration)
 Session 1: La Moneuse
 Session 2: Darbyste
 Session 3: Saison d?Epeautre

Bluejacket
 TBD

Bottle Shop
 All Sessions: Moor Beer B-Moor & Moor Beer Stout

Brasserie du Pays Flamand
 VIP: Sour Ale Blackberry
 All Sessions: Sour Ale Cassis
 Session 1 & 2: Cuvée Brett White
 Session 3: Cuvée Brett Red

Brasserie Dunham
 VIP: Flanders Red
 All Sessions: Tropicale IPA & Amicis Magicus (Jester King collaboration)
 Session 1: Assemblage No. 5 & Assemblage Hors-Serie #2
 Session 2: Assemblage Hors-Serie #3 & The Red Sashes
 Session 3: Saison Rustique & Assemblage No. 1

Brekeriet
 All Sessions: Ribes
 Session 1: Saison Sauvage
 Session 2: Brillant
 Session 3: Funkstarter

Brewfist
 All Sessions: Spaghetti Western (Prairie collaboration)
 Session 1: Bureaucracy IPA
 Session 2: X-Ray Porter
 Session 3: Galaxie Saison

Brewski
 All Sessions: MangoFeber & Brewski Berliner
 Session 1 & 2: Grape Me Berliner Weisse & AnanasFeber
 Session 3: Xenomorph Session & From Skåne with Love

Bridge Road
 All Sessions: TBD & Enigma

Buxton
 Session 1: Far Skyline & Sky Mountain Sour (To Øl collaboration)
 Session 2 & 3: Red Raspberry & Extra Stout

Cantillon
 VIP: LHD & 2005 Gueuze
 All Sessions: Kriek (on draft) and Bag-in-Box Gueuze (Year 1, 2, and 3)
 Session 1: Vigneronne
 Session 2: Cuvée St. Gilloise
 Session 3: Mamouche

CCM
 All Sessions: Mala Vida
 Session 1: Negra
 Session 2: Lupulus
 Session 3: Malta Cuvée

Cervesa Guineu
 Session 1: WIPA & Montserrat
 Session 2: Jack the RIPA & Marky Ramone?s Brown Ale
 Session 3: Riner & Vanilla Black Velvet

Cidrerie du Perche
 All Sessions: Cidre Brut, Cidre Demi-Sec, and Poiré

Cigar City
 TBD

Coniston/Ridgeway
 Session 1: Coniston Bluebird & Coniston Old Man Ale
 Session 2: Ridgeway Imperial Barley Wine & Ridgeway Imperial Russian Stout
 Session 3: Ridgeway Santa?s Butt and Ridgeway Bad Elf

Coppertail
 All Sessions: Whoops Cranberry Hibiscus Berliner
 Session 1: Brett Oxtail (Oxbow collaboration)
 Session 2: TBD
 Session 3: TBD

Crooked Stave
 TBD

Cycle
 TBD

De la Senne
 All Sessions: Saison du Meyboom & Schieve Tabarnak (Trou du Diable collaboration)

De Molen
 All Sessions: Cuvée #3
 Session 1: Cease & Desist BA
 Session 2: Ball & Chain
 Session 3: Barley Bomb

De Ranke
 All Sessions: Cuvée de Ranke
 Sessions 1 & 2: XX Bitter
 Session 3: Guldenberg

Dieu du Ciel!
 All Sessions: Péché Mortel & Disco Soleil
 Session 1: Exorciste 2015
 Session 2: Or des Marais
 Session 3: Dernière Volonté Brett

Drie Fonteinen
 VIP: Zenne y Frontera
 All Sessions: Oude Geuze & Oude Kriek

Edge
 Session 1: Barretina & Power Plant
 Session 2: Apassionada & Hoptimista
 Session 3: Flor de la Vida & Pure Decadence (Lervig collaboration)

Faction
 Pale Ale
 Bornday IIPA
 Pilsner
 Athena
 Java World Stout

Fonta Flora
 VIP: Meemaw (Appalachian wild ale w/ High County wild cherries)
 All Sessions: Bloody Butcher (Appalachian Grisette)
 Session 1: Shopping Spree (tart Appalachian Kvass)
 Session 2: Rhythm Rug (tart Appalachian saison w/ local strawberries)

Freigeist
 All Sessions: Geisterzug Rhubarb
 Session 1: Salzspeicher Cherry
 Session 2: Abraxxxas Apple
 Session 3: Salzspeicher Raspberry

Funky Buddha
 All Sessions: Strawberry Basil Berliner
 Session 1: Morning Wood
 Session 2: Snowed In
 Session 3: TBD

Fyne Ales
 All Sessions: Ich Bin Ein Berryliner
 Session 1: Mills & Hills
 Session 2: Jarl
 Session 3: Fynebank

Gravity Brewlab
 All Sessions: Sunshine State of Mind
 Session 1: Grodzilla (smoked sour)
 Session 2: BA Cranberry Cider
 Session 3: Black Currant Wild Ale

Green Bench
 All Sessions: Les Grisettes, Petit Provision, Sauvage Blanc, Webb?s City Cellar Series Florida Poster Girls, Monsieur Ed (St. Somewhere collab), Backpack (Cigar City collab), Wood Parade Series Manaphin Chocolate Stout, Green Bench Mead & Cider

Grimm
 All Sessions: Pulse Wave DIPA
 Session 1: Psychokinesis
 Session 2: Rainbow Dome
 Session 3: Super Symmetry

Hill Farmstead
 All Sessions: Anna & Table Dorothy
 Session 1: Convivial Suarez
 Session 2: Brother Soigne
 Session 3: Clara

Hofbrouwerijke
 All Sessions: Anarkriek
 Session 1 & 3: Flower Sour
 Session 2: Hoftrol

Jandrain-Jandrenouille
 All Sessions: IV Saison & V Cense

Jester King
 All sessions: Noble King
 Session 1: Fen Tao
 Session 2: Cerveza Sin Frontera
 Session 3: Amicis Mortis

Jolly Pumpkin
 All Sessions: Oro de Calabaza
 Session 1: Ursae Majorus
 Session 2: Saison X
 Session 3: Pinchadiscos

Jopen
 All Sessions: Koyt
 Session 1: Stillwater Bloemen
 Session 2: Grateful Deaf
 Session 3: Coastal Gose

La Choulette
 All Sessions: Lafayette
 Session 1 & 3: Sans Culottes
 Session 2: Framboise

Le Trou du Diable
 VIP: Dulcis Succubus
 All Sessions: Oude Blanche Cerise
 Session 1: Pitoune
 Session 2: Buteuse Brassin Special & L?Ours
 Session 3: Saison du Tracteur

Les Trois Mousquetaires
 VIP: Ceci n?est pas une Gueuze
 All Sessions: Berliner Weisse
 Session 1: Saison Brett
 Session 2: Porter Baltique & Porter Baltique édition spéciale
 Session 3: Gose

Les Vergers de la Colline
 Session 1: CID Rose & Les Russet
 Session 2: CID Original & Glace
 Session 3: CID Cuivre & Api-Hop

Libertine
 TBD

Malmö
 TBD

Magic Rock
 Session 1: Pina Collision & Bearded Lady (BA with cherries)
 Session 2: Salty Kiss (Tequila barrel) & Cannonball
 Session 3: Ginspired & Cannonball

Marina
 Session 1: S?Aguia & Mas Cremat
 Session 2: Vinya Hop & Black Sea
 Session 3: Sour Skull & Devil?s IPA

Mikkeller
 VIP: Wineale
 All Sessions: Beer Geek Big Blend
 Session 1: Spontanpassionfruit
 Session 2: Spontanmango
 Session 3: Spontangreenapple

Monarchy
 All Sessions: Holunderheimer
 Session 1: Münchhausen
 Session 2: Preussen Weisse
 Session 3: Viking Gose

Mystic
 All Sessions: Flor Ventus
 Session 1 & 3: Saison Renaud
 Session 2: Vinland 3

Nøgne Ø
 TBD

Oedipus
 All Sessions: Mannenliefde (Saison with szechuan pepper, lemon grass and sorachi ace hops)
 Session 1: Himbeer (Berliner Weisse with raspberries)
 Session 2: Thai Thai (Belgian tripel, with thai spices)
 Session 3: Kinderyoga

Oersoep
 All Sessions: Brettalicious
 Session 1 & 3: Wild at Heart
 Session 2: Raspberry Tart

Oxbow
 All Sessions: Crossfade
 Session 1: BA FPA #10
 Session 2: Saison Dell?Aragostra
 Session 3: Oxtoberfeset 12/13/14 Blend

Page 24
 All Sessions: BA Imperial Stout (bourbon)
 Session 1: Robust Porter (Twickenham collaboration), BA Brune with cherries (red wine), Barleywine
 Session 2: Robust Porter, BA Brune with cherries (red wine), BA Brune (red wine)
 Session 3: BA Brune with cherries (red wine), Barleywine

Peckham?s
 Session 1: Cider Kir & Moutere Cider
 Session 2: Boysenberry Cider & Moutere Perry
 Session 3: Elderflower Cider & Cider Kir

Perennial
 VIP: 2015 Maman
 All Sessions: Regalia
 Session 1: 2014 Abraxas
 Session 2: Peach Berliner Weisse
 Session 3: Funky Wit

Playalinda
 All Sessions: Bring It IPA & Barrel-aged Farmhouse Saison

Prairie
 VIP: 3rd Anniversary
 All Sessions: BOMB!
 Session 1: HOP!
 Session 2: Funky Gold Mosaic
 Session 3: Brett C

Pretty Things
 All Sessions: Meadowlark
 Session 1: Jack d?Or
 Session 2: Field Mouse?s Farewell
 Session 3: Barbapapa

Redlight Redlight
 VIP: Merde de Singe (saison with tamarind)
 All Sessions: Singe de Mer (Saint Somewhere collaboration: dark saison with sea monkeys!)

Renaissance
 All Sessions: Black the RIPA
 Session 1 & 3: Grandmaster
 Session 2: Abundance Baltic Cherry Porter

Ribela
 All Sessions: Cider & Artesana

Ritterguts
 Gose!

Rooie Dop
 All Sessions: Chica Americana
 Session 1: Three is a Magic Number (Oersoep/Brew by Numbers collaboration)
 Session 2: Blue Dot Double IPA (Ruig/Hair of the Dog collaboration)
 Session 3: Back to Black (Tupiniquim collaboration)

Sagra
 All Sessions: Blonde, Bohio, Spanish Roja

Saint Somewhere
 VIP: Assoiffe
 All Sessions: Lectio Divina (Rare Beer Club version)
 Session 1: Crépuscule
 Session 2: Anne
 Session 3: Punaise de Amour

Santé Adairius
 VIP: Mercy, Mercy (saison/grisette for Michelin-star restaurant)
 All Sessions: Lady in Grey & Appreciation

Side Project
 All Sessions: Saison du Blé
 Session 1: Marietta Ave
 Session 2: Abricot du Fermier
 Session 3: Fencerow

Siren
 All Sessions: Calypso (Enigma), Mum?s the Word (AZ Wilderness collaboration), Maiden 2014

Struise
 VIP: Ypres Reserva 2011
 Session 1: Rye Triple Reserva (bourbon barrel)
 Session 2: Obelis & Black Albert
 Session 3: Aestatis & Danko Power Session IPA

Thiriez
 All Sessions: Train to Mars
 Session 1: Extra & Fièvre de Cacao
 Session 2: Ambree & Petit Princesse
 Session 3: Extra & Dalva

To Øl
 VIP: Yeastus Christus
 Session 1: Nordic by Nature & Fuck Art The Heathens Are Comin!
 Session 2: Gose to Hollywood & Sur Amarillo
 Session 3: Nelson Survin & Spildt Maelk

Toccalmatto
 VIP: Sugar Kane
 Session 1 & 2: Zona Cesarini
 Session 1 & 3: Kaleidoscope (Evil Twin collaboration)
 Session 2 & 3: Okie Matilde (Prairie collaboration)

Trois Dames
 All Sessions: Sin Frontera (Crooked Stave/Jester King collaboration)
 Session 1: l?Amoureuse Rouge & Saison Framboise
 Session 2: l?Amoureuse Blanche & Grande Dame
 Session 3: l?Amoureuse Blanche & La Tentation

Way Beer
 Session 1: Sour Me Not Acerola & Amburana Barley Wine
 Session 2: Sour Me Not Graviola & Purple High Five
 Session 3: Sour Me Not Caju & Sour Barley Wine

Weird Beard
 Session 1: Little Things That Kill & Faceless Spreadsheet Ninja
 Session 2: Little Things That Kill & Sadako
 Session 3: Black Perle & Double Perle

Westvleteren
 All Sessions: Westvleteren XII
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 07, 2015, 03:35:47 pm
It may be a case of what have you done for me lately, as these are the three locals I've most recently visited, but ranking the DMV breweries, I'd have to say:

1. Ocelot
2. Bluejacket
3. *Right Proper
4 through ?: Everyone else

How do you folks see it???


*Right Proper loses a spot because my bartender was wearing a Frank Turner t-shirt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on October 07, 2015, 03:49:01 pm
Sorry to come bursting in here with a dumb question like Mr. Kool-aid but I have to ask: Do you beer dorks like pumpkin beer? Does anybody? I see it all over the damn place, and yet everyone I talk to says they hate it. So who's buying it? Has this been discussed to death already?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on October 07, 2015, 03:50:49 pm
women, are buying it . . . lots and lots of women, in pajama parties while oogling at the pizza delivery guy who seems to be too darn cute to just be a pizza delivery guy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 07, 2015, 03:56:50 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on October 07, 2015, 03:49:01 pm
Sorry to come bursting in here with a dumb question like Mr. Kool-aid but I have to ask: Do you beer dorks like pumpkin beer? Does anybody? I see it all over the damn place, and yet everyone I talk to says they hate it. So who's buying it? Has this been discussed to death already?
I tried it once and thought it was absolutely disgusting. Pump-King or whatever. Did not seem like two flavors that ever needed to go together.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on October 07, 2015, 04:24:23 pm
Probably what's driving the nationwide pumpkin shortage:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/33b27e191fcc40ae9151abe054c3d520/pumpkins-available-halloween-maybe-not-thanksgiving
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 07, 2015, 04:36:59 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on October 07, 2015, 03:49:01 pm
Sorry to come bursting in here with a dumb question like Mr. Kool-aid but I have to ask: Do you beer dorks like pumpkin beer? Does anybody? I see it all over the damn place, and yet everyone I talk to says they hate it. So who's buying it? Has this been discussed to death already?

yes, yes, i am, yes.

beta beer nerds have jumped on the bandwagon of trashing pumpkin beer like they are answering some calling from above and now need to slam pumpkin beer every chance they get. it's becoming tiring. yeah, i don't like that it's released in July/August, either, but i'm not gonna get all bent out of shape because some suit crunched the numbers and realized that an early market push might result in higher revenue.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 07, 2015, 04:39:36 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on October 07, 2015, 03:50:49 pm
women, are buying it . . . lots and lots of women, in pajama parties while oogling at the pizza delivery guy who seems to be too darn cute to just be a pizza delivery guy.

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/993efe3b8d8b95af3b4d29a336715135/tumblr_nn2jp9ys8S1unabzvo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 07, 2015, 04:48:48 pm
I've tried quite a few pumpkin beers and just about all of them suck
there is one I love called Warlock ...and it's an Imperial stout...10% ABV
I have heard that the 2015 version isn't as good as past few years, but haven't tried it this year

(http://m5.paperblog.com/i/65/651208/southern-tier-blackwater-series-warlock-being-L-mTQA8V.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 07, 2015, 05:19:48 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 07, 2015, 04:48:48 pm
I've tried quite a few pumpkin beers and just about all of them suck

THIS
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 07, 2015, 05:33:47 pm
i'm not going to go on a pseudo-religious rant against pumpkin beers, but could me as another beer drinker who has yet to find a pumpkin beer that he enjoyed.  at best they are ok.  far too many breweries overdo the spices.

my mom recently came for a visit, and knowing that i'm a beer nerd she always brings some craft beer from back home.  among the beers that she brought this time was a pumpkin beer.  i tried one, it was fine, but that's all i need to taste.  unless the missus decides she likes it, i'm going to give it away... i think i'm going to a party this weekend, i can quietly dump it there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 07, 2015, 05:59:53 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 07, 2015, 05:33:47 pm
i'm not going to go on a pseudo-religious rant against pumpkin beers, but could me as another beer drinker who has yet to find a pumpkin beer that he enjoyed.  at best they are ok.  far too many breweries overdo the spices.

my mom recently came for a visit, and knowing that i'm a beer nerd she always brings some craft beer from back home.  among the beers that she brought this time was a pumpkin beer.  i tried one, it was fine, but that's all i need to taste.  unless the missus decides she likes it, i'm going to give it away... i think i'm going to a party this weekend, i can quietly dump it there.

i've got a couple i like, and far as i know, they see distribution in DC:
elysian great pumpkin
elysian punkaccino
DFH punkin
avery rumpkin
southern tier pumpking
weyerbacher imperial pumpkin

A couple that probably dont make distribution:
midnight sun TREAT
a dozen or so elysian specialty releases, including the infamous pumpkin peach amber

also not bad: pumpkin cider



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 07, 2015, 06:12:49 pm
I'm generally not a fan of spicy beers (I don't like winter warmers either), and not a fan of overly sweet beers (many stouts are too sweet for me, I prefer stouts that have more of a bitterness component than a sweet component). Hence my distaste for pumpkin beers. I'm equal opportunity though...I'm not much of a fan of pumpkin pie or pumpkin anything really.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 08, 2015, 11:50:23 am
was looking up details for the upcoming LOCO fest and saw they had some transportation options (good thinking boys!)

if you live in Loudon Co - $10 each way ride by Road Yachts  (would they pick you up at wiehle-reston Metro? as it's in fairfax)

and Reston limo is doing it too from Arlington /Alexandria for $39 R/T (doesn't include admission...and a little pricey IMO)


what's also nice is Reston Limo is doing a bunch of brewery tours now
https://www.restonlimo.com/services/tours-trips/brewery-tours/


also it's about a 10 mile easy bike ride from wiehle Metro
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 08, 2015, 12:01:21 pm
Stone Brewing barrels arriving by barge in Richmond.

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12063387_1510128549299745_2148915907604509584_n.jpg?oh=05adbed05ae0483ee605e49e85b88443&oe=56A0B1D4)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 08, 2015, 12:07:35 pm
^cool

also apparently we have not reached 'peak beer (http://munchies.vice.com/articles/stop-panicking-the-us-hasnt-reached-peak-craft-beer)' yet

On September 25, the Brewers Association announced that the number of American breweries had passed 4,000, just over a year after the 3,000-brewery mark was reached
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on October 08, 2015, 03:32:23 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 07, 2015, 05:59:53 pm

avery rumpkin


This.  It is even better after a year of aging.  I also like Avery's Pump[KY]n. I had a year old one last weekend. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 08, 2015, 04:04:59 pm
rumpkin and Pump[KY]n are not standard pumpkin beers.  good for them for breaking the mold, but i think of them as barrel-aged beers (category 22C (http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style22.php#1c)).  the barrel aging and spirit dominate (and make up for the mediocrity of the traditional "pumpkin" flavors ;D)

are they beers make with pumpkin spices?  sure.  are they what people mean when they say "pumpkin beer"?  nah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2015, 05:15:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 08, 2015, 04:04:59 pm
rumpkin and Pump[KY]n are not standard pumpkin beers.  good for them for breaking the mold, but i think of them as barrel-aged beers (category 22C (http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style22.php#1c)).  the barrel aging and spirit dominate (and make up for the mediocrity of the traditional "pumpkin" flavors ;D)

are they beers make with pumpkin spices?  sure.  are they what people mean when they say "pumpkin beer"?  nah.

#BJCPWNED
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 08, 2015, 06:27:32 pm
^ lol, hashtag of the week!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2015, 07:58:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 08, 2015, 04:04:59 pm
rumpkin and Pump[KY]n are not standard pumpkin beers.  good for them for breaking the mold, but i think of them as barrel-aged beers (category 22C (http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style22.php#1c)).  the barrel aging and spirit dominate (and make up for the mediocrity of the traditional "pumpkin" flavors ;D)

are they beers make with pumpkin spices?  sure.  are they what people mean when they say "pumpkin beer"?  nah.

i agree, it's totally "off-style". i think it's a good example that all pumpkin beer doesn't suck, but it's not a good example of why shelf-pumpkin beer doesn't suck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 09, 2015, 08:08:25 am
I've got the get a bottle of this, for the bottle art alone.

Next up, the Scary Mohammed Rock Star beer.


(http://beerstreetjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/Dark-Horse-Scary-Jesus-Rock-Star.jpg)
 

 

Dark Horse Scary Jesus Rock Star

This collaboration beer made with Chef Cleetus Friedman of Chicago's Fountainhead will save your soul and then melt your face off. Aromas of chamomile touch your nose as they lead into the soft body and mouthfeel of this liquid symphony. Just as your mind is clear and your sins are washed away, a tasty riff of sweet and earthy fresh apricots hit your palate and rock your tastebuds finishing dry and hoppy. Drink, rock, repeat.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2015, 12:31:28 pm
ok...sounds kinda heinous, but a cool looking bottle
saw this behind the bar whilst picking up some Thai this weekend

(http://blog.sfgate.com/culture/files/2014/12/rogue_sriracha_stout__40752.1417218310.1280.1280-188x600.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on October 12, 2015, 12:50:30 pm
seen that for awhile, and no way.  I think the cheap gimmick marketing and selling out to the main stream of beer people everywhere has ruined the integrity of what beer makers have to do to get people even interested in their brewery and brand.  what is next, cereal line beer? . . . boo berry crunch ale . . . cocoa puffs stout . . . honeycomb saison . . . lucky charms sour . . . wheaties ipa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2015, 03:07:11 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on October 12, 2015, 12:50:30 pm
seen that for awhile, and no way.  I think the cheap gimmick marketing and selling out to the main stream of beer people everywhere has ruined the integrity of what beer makers have to do to get people even interested in their brewery and brand.  what is next, cereal line beer? . . . boo berry crunch ale . . . cocoa puffs stout . . . honeycomb saison . . . lucky charms sour . . . wheaties ipa.

How about Hefewheaties?

http://consumerist.com/2015/08/12/wheaties-is-making-non-cereal-flavored-beer/

(https://consumermediallc.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/hefewheaties_4pack.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on October 12, 2015, 06:12:38 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on October 12, 2015, 12:50:30 pm
seen that for awhile, and no way.  I think the cheap gimmick marketing and selling out to the main stream of beer people everywhere has ruined the integrity of what beer makers have to do to get people even interested in their brewery and brand.  what is next, cereal line beer? . . . boo berry crunch ale . . . cocoa puffs stout . . . honeycomb saison . . . lucky charms sour . . . wheaties ipa.

Funny you should say that:  http://www.cerealously.net/news-count-chocula-beer-is-reanimated-with-help-from-general-mills/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 13, 2015, 12:08:03 pm
(http://s10.postimg.org/pinjpmwgp/image.jpg)

EpiQ weekend in the hills of Vermont... I haven't been in a few years (since Alchemist stopped selling Heady direct) and snagging beer around the area was much easier than expected. Sip of Sunshine surprisingly was sitting on shelves in almost all stores. Heady was a bit tougher but easily scored a few cases.

The Waterbury trifecta of Prohibition Pig, Blackback, and The Reservoir is about as good as it gets in terms of bars/restaurants. The weather was also damn near perfect.

Came home with shit loads of everything I wanted an probably then some (an entire HF box not shown as well as some other regional goodies).

The renovations at Hill Farmstead are pretty incredible and led to a less than 20 minute wait for growler fills on a Friday afternoon.

Civil Disobedience #13 was probably the beer of the weekend followed by Mutual Admiration and Society and Solitude #5 and my first time trying Focal Banger. Side note that I'm sure stevewizzle will appreciate,  I somehow made it through an entire weekend without even drinking a Heady Topper.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 13, 2015, 12:23:03 pm
sweet haul, brah!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 13, 2015, 12:25:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 13, 2015, 12:08:03 pm
[img] Side note that I'm sure stevewizzle will appreciate,  I somehow made it through an entire weekend without even drinking a Heady Topper.

i do appreciate that. looks like a hell of a weekend.

how much of that fridge do you plan on drinking yourself? i don't think i'd be able to contain myself with that much delicious IPA in the fridge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 13, 2015, 01:33:09 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 13, 2015, 12:25:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 13, 2015, 12:08:03 pm
[img] Side note that I'm sure stevewizzle will appreciate,  I somehow made it through an entire weekend without even drinking a Heady Topper.

i do appreciate that. looks like a hell of a weekend.

how much of that fridge do you plan on drinking yourself? i don't think i'd be able to contain myself with that much delicious IPA in the fridge.

I'd imagine I'll rip through a case over the course of the next couple of months... the other case will go to friends, Sunday football get togethers, house warming party, etc.

I started working on the growlers yesterday.  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 13, 2015, 02:47:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 13, 2015, 01:33:09 pm

I started working on the growlers yesterday.  :o
didn't you owe me a beer or something??? ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 13, 2015, 03:17:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 13, 2015, 01:33:09 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 13, 2015, 12:25:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 13, 2015, 12:08:03 pm
[img] Side note that I'm sure stevewizzle will appreciate,  I somehow made it through an entire weekend without even drinking a Heady Topper.

i do appreciate that. looks like a hell of a weekend.

how much of that fridge do you plan on drinking yourself? i don't think i'd be able to contain myself with that much delicious IPA in the fridge.

I'd imagine I'll rip through a case over the course of the next couple of months... the other case will go to friends, Sunday football get togethers, house warming party, etc.

I started working on the growlers yesterday.  :o

nice, you're a better man than i am. i bought a case of cowiche canyon 3 weeks ago and it's already gone. sometimes, life calls for temporary alcoholism.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 13, 2015, 04:09:32 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 13, 2015, 03:17:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 13, 2015, 01:33:09 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 13, 2015, 12:25:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 13, 2015, 12:08:03 pm
[img] Side note that I'm sure stevewizzle will appreciate,  I somehow made it through an entire weekend without even drinking a Heady Topper.

i do appreciate that. looks like a hell of a weekend.

how much of that fridge do you plan on drinking yourself? i don't think i'd be able to contain myself with that much delicious IPA in the fridge.

I'd imagine I'll rip through a case over the course of the next couple of months... the other case will go to friends, Sunday football get togethers, house warming party, etc.

I started working on the growlers yesterday.  :o

nice, you're a better man than i am. i bought a case of cowiche canyon 3 weeks ago and it's already gone. sometimes, life calls for temporary alcoholism.

I have to say, my beer taste buds change on a very regular basis. I was completely HOPPED out by Saturday afternoon and switched to stouts, whiskey, and wine. However, the binging was a bit out of control. Normally, I'd drink a heady MAYBE two in a sitting and that would be enough for a day or two...I'll report back when the bounty is all gone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2015, 04:27:00 pm
beerathon tickets on sale via living social

$55
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 13, 2015, 05:08:28 pm
yada, if you need any help... just lemme know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 16, 2015, 08:32:54 am
Well Richmond is no Vermont, but after spending a good chunk of last weekend there, I'm ready to pronounce it the best beer city between Asheville and Philadelphia.

We hit the Lickinghole Creek Anniversary party. While not technically in Richmond (it's in the much better named 'Goochland'), I'm going to count it. We sampled a variety of beers, which ranged from terrible to fantastic. Nice farm setting, they had pick your own pumpkins (free), cornhole, live music, face painting for the toddlers...wide range of ages from babies on up. My wife was talking to the older woman next to her, who proclaimed "I'm here getting drunk on my son's beer." Turns out the woman was the mom of the owner. She was nice enough to snag my wife a free t-shirt before taking the stage to perform a solo acoustic version of the theme song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp4qeOTKTBc

We also made it to the Answer for the first time since they started brewing...I'd rate their IPA's right there with Ocelot for best in State. Triple Crossing is making some nice IPA's too. And of course Mekong might have a draft list that surpasses Churchkey. We didn't make it to Hardywood, but they're always pretty solid as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 16, 2015, 08:36:23 am
It may not be the perfect beer, but it was the perfect beer to drink at the summit of Old Rag on a crisp Autumn day yesterday, paired with a grilled smoke gouda and Macintosh apple sandwich. I had my next to last bottle of the 2013 batch yesterday. I've heard it said that the 2015 version is being released today.

And if that wasn't enough Founders for one day, on the way home I picked up a four pack of Harvest Ale and a $5 growler of Breakfast Stout for future consumption.

(http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/founders-backwoods-bastard.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 16, 2015, 09:01:07 am
saw an interesting post on Ocelet

Plasticine Porter is also delivering itself up in various ways this weekend. Look for this Imperial Porter (9.4%) to be served on Nitro, CO2, and through the cask engine with coffee.

So there we go, some craft brewer using Nitro

Sounds absolutely delish, especially with that chill I felt this morning.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 17, 2015, 08:25:55 pm
snagged some 10-day-old Jai Alai at Trader Joe's in Tysons today, which was a nice surprise.  also decided to roll the dice on a TJ's-branded hibiscus tripel, which appears to be a collab with Hardywood.

Quote from: Watermelondrea  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 16, 2015, 09:01:07 am
So there we go, some craft brewer using Nitro

craft brewers serving beer on nitro isn't that uncommon...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 17, 2015, 10:58:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2015, 08:25:55 pm
snagged some 10-day-old Jai Alai at Trader Joe's in Tysons today, which was a nice surprise.  also decided to roll the dice on a TJ's-branded hibiscus tripel, which appears to be a collab with Hardywood.

Quote from: Watermelondrea  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 16, 2015, 09:01:07 am
So there we go, some craft brewer using Nitro

craft brewers serving beer on nitro isn't that uncommon...

Eight day old Jai Alai at Trader Joe's in Faifax today. Beat ya!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 18, 2015, 10:31:20 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 17, 2015, 10:58:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2015, 08:25:55 pm
snagged some 10-day-old Jai Alai at Trader Joe's in Tysons today, which was a nice surprise.  also decided to roll the dice on a TJ's-branded hibiscus tripel, which appears to be a collab with Hardywood.

Quote from: Watermelondrea  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 16, 2015, 09:01:07 am
So there we go, some craft brewer using Nitro

craft brewers serving beer on nitro isn't that uncommon...

Eight day old Jai Alai at Trader Joe's in Faifax today. Beat ya!

lol @ competitive beer buying ;D

so did you walk out with it?  i'm a tad disappointed by the cans i've got.  amazing citrus aroma but some sort of weird but (luckily) subtle chalky/mineral-y thing going on in the taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 18, 2015, 11:03:17 pm
Brewers Art Beazly Ale and Sumuttynose Robust Porter were my favorite finds this weekend

What was also nice surprise was going to a Kid's Fall Fest event at a farm...and they had BlueJacket Panther schwarzbier on tap

Win-Win for Dad
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 19, 2015, 09:00:17 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 18, 2015, 10:31:20 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 17, 2015, 10:58:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 17, 2015, 08:25:55 pm
snagged some 10-day-old Jai Alai at Trader Joe's in Tysons today, which was a nice surprise.  also decided to roll the dice on a TJ's-branded hibiscus tripel, which appears to be a collab with Hardywood.

Quote from: Watermelondrea  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 16, 2015, 09:01:07 am
So there we go, some craft brewer using Nitro

craft brewers serving beer on nitro isn't that uncommon...

Eight day old Jai Alai at Trader Joe's in Faifax today. Beat ya!

lol @ competitive beer buying ;D

so did you walk out with it?  i'm a tad disappointed by the cans i've got.  amazing citrus aroma but some sort of weird but (luckily) subtle chalky/mineral-y thing going on in the taste.

I bet Space also saved 86 cents on his purchase buying in VA vs. DC!! Take that sweetcell!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 19, 2015, 09:33:34 am
First, is Jai Alai actually a hard beer to find? The Total Wine and More across the street from me has it by the truckload.

Also, is "how many days old my beer is" really a thing? At how many days does beer become sub-optimal?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 19, 2015, 10:08:05 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 19, 2015, 09:33:34 am
Also, is "how many days old my beer is" really a thing? At how many days does beer become sub-optimal?
not in days...months possibly
they just had their dick measuring sticks out and wanted to brag
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 19, 2015, 10:08:12 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 19, 2015, 09:33:34 am
First, is Jai Alai actually a hard beer to find? The Total Wine and More across the street from me has it by the truckload.

Also, is "how many days old my beer is" really a thing? At how many days does beer become sub-optimal?

Cigar City only recently started distributing in this region, so it's "somewhat" of an attractive beer but not really.

As for the age of beers, the fresher the better for hoppy beers like Jai Alai.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 19, 2015, 10:14:01 am
Quote from: Watermelondrea  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 19, 2015, 10:08:05 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 19, 2015, 09:33:34 am
Also, is "how many days old my beer is" really a thing? At how many days does beer become sub-optimal?
not in days...months possibly
they just had their dick measuring sticks out and wanted to brag

My dick is pretty average in size, but in regard to Jai Alai, I've noticed quite a difference (degradation) in taste even between buying and consuming it at three days old when I was in Florida (or possibly less when I was at the tasting room) and drinking it three weeks later. With Jai Alai, there also seems to be quite a bit of batch to batch variation. I've had it when it's absolutely amazing, and had it when it's only very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 19, 2015, 10:17:01 am
Quote from: Yada on October 19, 2015, 10:08:12 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 19, 2015, 09:33:34 am
First, is Jai Alai actually a hard beer to find? The Total Wine and More across the street from me has it by the truckload.

Also, is "how many days old my beer is" really a thing? At how many days does beer become sub-optimal?

Cigar City only recently started distributing in this region, so it's "somewhat" of an attractive beer but not really.

As for the age of beers, the fresher the better for hoppy beers like Jai Alai.

Cigar City actually distributed to the DM(?)V in Spring/Summer 2014 through September 2014, then dropped us for about a year. So they teased us and got us hooked, then left us hanging and longing for more. So to see them return after a years absence is a wonderful thing. Now if they'd only start sending us their more limited stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 19, 2015, 12:39:52 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 19, 2015, 10:17:01 am
Quote from: Yada on October 19, 2015, 10:08:12 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 19, 2015, 09:33:34 am
First, is Jai Alai actually a hard beer to find? The Total Wine and More across the street from me has it by the truckload.

Also, is "how many days old my beer is" really a thing? At how many days does beer become sub-optimal?

Cigar City only recently started distributing in this region, so it's "somewhat" of an attractive beer but not really.

As for the age of beers, the fresher the better for hoppy beers like Jai Alai.

Cigar City actually distributed to the DM(?)V in Spring/Summer 2014 through September 2014, then dropped us for about a year. So they teased us and got us hooked, then left us hanging and longing for more. So to see them return after a years absence is a wonderful thing. Now if they'd only start sending us their more limited stuff.


Quote from: Yada on October 19, 2015, 10:08:12 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 19, 2015, 09:33:34 am


Cigar City only recently started distributing in this region,


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 19, 2015, 01:07:04 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 19, 2015, 09:33:34 am
First, is Jai Alai actually a hard beer to find? The Total Wine and More across the street from me has it by the truckload.

as Space mentioned, they have only recently returned to the area.  they don't distribute at all in MD, and i haven't seen it in DC (not that i hit many shops), so finding some in Tysons this past weekend was nice.  i haven't had any in at least a year, probably longer.

Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 19, 2015, 09:33:34 am
Also, is "how many days old my beer is" really a thing? At how many days does beer become sub-optimal?

the aroma and taste of hops drop off pretty quickly.  for beers where hops are the main attraction (read: IPAs), it's all about the freshness.  i generally only buy IPAs if they are less than a month old, maybe 6 weeks if stored cold (negative points for TJs: all beer is stored on the floor, so room temp).  the alchemist brewery, makers of heady topper, will only distribute to locations that have on-site refrigeration.  no warm storage allowed (not that the stuff requires much storage since it never lasts... a virtuous circle).

for most other beer, freshness is still desirable because beer stales.  oxidation is mostly what you're trying to avoid.  wheat beers tend to deteriorate relatively quickly, anything with dark malts (aka dark beers) tend to fare better.

and some beers benefit from aging.  big beers like barleywines and imperial stouts might be too "hot" when fresh and need some time to mellow out.  wild/sour beers with live bugs in them will continue to develop for years and become funkier, more complex, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 22, 2015, 09:34:24 am
Hey Sweetcell, was this beer ever served at a bottle share?

Had one last night, half price at Smoke and Barrel. Absolutely stunning beer. Also had Ocelot Never Ending Maze, my favorite Ocelot IPA so far. Had to skip the three Alpine hoppy beers.

(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2782/rgc06.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 22, 2015, 10:26:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 22, 2015, 09:34:24 am
Hey Sweetcell, was this beer ever served at a bottle share?

Had one last night, half price at Smoke and Barrel. Absolutely stunning beer.

yup, it was the last share at your place.  in fact 2 bottles showed up, we only drank one.  i ended up bringing my bottle back home ;D  it's safely sleeping with my other belgian sours, waiting for the right day...

i bought mine in belgium, and these were the most expensive bottles i brought back.  i've seen them here for $25 (and as high as $35).  i imagine $20-25 is about what you paid for this at a restaurant when half-price?

is that a pic of your bottle, or is that an online random?  2010 vintage...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 22, 2015, 10:31:19 am
That's just a random pic.

They have it at Smoke and Barrel on draft. $10 for a 9 oz pour. The Wednesday half price happy hour brought it down to $5. Wish I had had two of them at that price but alas I was driving.

I think there's a bottle or two sitting around one of my local shops priced in the low 20's. May have to spring.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 23, 2015, 11:56:46 am
sweets...sounds like you need to step up your game and Ocelot might brew your beer


Ocelot is proud to support our resident homebrew club, 50 West, and we are excited to announce the winners of the first annual 50 West / Ocelot Homebrew Competition. Our best-in-show winners include:

1st Place: Chris Palmisano, Category 21B: Specialty IPA (Black IPA), Hanger 18
 2nd Place: Joe Bower, Category 33B: Specialty Wood-Aged Beer (Belgian Strong Ale), Belgian Quad
 3rd Place: Chris Palmisano, 30A: Spice, Herb or Vegetable Beer (Mint Stout), S.T.A.Y

Be on the lookout for Hanger 18 in the Ocelot tap room, as we will be working with Chris Palmisano in the coming months to brew this first place recipe.

Thank you again to all 50 Westers who participated. All of your entries were delicious and we certainly had a difficult time picking the top three.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 23, 2015, 02:08:24 pm
heh, thanks for thinking of me.  dunno if i'm up for joining a club that's over an hour away...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 23, 2015, 02:29:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 23, 2015, 02:08:24 pm
heh, thanks for thinking of me.  dunno if i'm up for joining a club that's over an hour away...
Also don't know if I'd be a member of any club that would have me as a member

But did think it was pretty cool that they are going to brew up the winning batch
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 23, 2015, 03:16:50 pm
ok groucho :)

3 Stars, and i believe DC Brau, have done this in the past.  i once entered a kolsch into such a competition, unfortunately it was well past its prime so never had a chance of winning.   too bad because it was solid when fresh.  the prize was to spend the day brewing the beer with the brewers, on the big system - something most homebrewers would die for.  my mom was visiting at the time and couldn't understand why anyone would do this.  "so first you have to give away some of your beer (for them to judge); then if they like it; you go work for them for a day, for free?  and then they sell all of your beer and keep the money?  why would you choose to do such a thing???"  thanks for the support, mom.

i'll be brewing a DIPA this afternoon, and a double batch of saison tomorrow (one half destined to be brett'ed).  no plans on entering any of into any comps, but TBD ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 29, 2015, 10:55:11 am
Put a 'new year's beer' in the fermenter last night
First time using orange peels, coriander  and Belgian candy
OG was 1.078

Says to keep in the fermenter for 11 days, do you usually wait for the bubbling to stop and do a Gravity test?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 29, 2015, 11:05:09 am
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:55:11 am
Put a 'new year's beer' in the fermenter last night
First time using orange peels, coriander  and Belgian candy
OG was 1.078

Says to keep in the fermenter for 11 days, do you usually wait for the bubbling to stop and do a Gravity test?



i'd say 48 hours after bubbling has stopped.

are you bottling it after 11 days?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2015, 11:26:41 am
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:55:11 am
Put a 'new year's beer' in the fermenter last night
First time using orange peels, coriander  and Belgian candy
OG was 1.078
 
headed for 8-9% ABV... nice!

Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:55:11 am
Says to keep in the fermenter for 11 days, do you usually wait for the bubbling to stop and do a Gravity test?

ignore any advice that has set dates for fermentation.  yeast can't read a calendar.  they do their own thing, on their own time.  depending on the conditions of your fermentation it could take longer or could be done faster.

48 hours after bubbling has stopped is a good line in the sand, but there is no harm in going longer.  for a beer that big i would forget about it for at least 14 days before looking at it (and 3 weeks would be more typical for me).  there is a lot of yeast to settle out, flavors to meld... no need to rush.

you asked me a bunch of questions a while back, and i've been meaning to reply.  will do this soon, i promise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 29, 2015, 11:28:05 am
Quote from: fart sound on October 29, 2015, 11:05:09 am
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:55:11 am
Put a 'new year's beer' in the fermenter last night
First time using orange peels, coriander  and Belgian candy
OG was 1.078

Says to keep in the fermenter for 11 days, do you usually wait for the bubbling to stop and do a Gravity test?



i'd say 48 hours after bubbling has stopped.

are you bottling it after 11 days?
Don't know, put the date on my calendar
But usually wait for the bubbling to stop

Last Dipa I brewed stopped bubbling and then did a zombie like revival and started bubbling again for a good 5 more days
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 29, 2015, 11:46:39 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 29, 2015, 11:26:41 am
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:55:11 am
Put a 'new year's beer' in the fermenter last night
First time using orange peels, coriander  and Belgian candy
OG was 1.078
 
headed for 8-9% ABV... nice!
 
I know...that's what I'm hoping for  ;D
oh forgot to mention all grain too


Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:55:11 am
Says to keep in the fermenter for 11 days, do you usually wait for the bubbling to stop and do a Gravity test?


Quote
 
 yeast can't read a calendar. 
 
Might be my new tag line

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  48 hours after bubbling has stopped is a good line in the sand, but there is no harm in going longer.  for a beer that big i would forget about it for at least 14 days before looking at it (and 3 weeks would be more typical for me).  there is a lot of yeast to settle out, flavors to meld... no need to rush.
 
roger!

Quote
 

you asked me a bunch of questions a while back, and i've been meaning to reply.  will do this soon, i promise.
No sweat...I forgot what they were anyway

I'm really looking at going to the 5 gallon brewing in the new year
been having a lot of fun with the 1 gal batches...but I hate to give even a bomber away when you only get 9-10 12oz'ers  And probably only an 60/90 mins more work and you 5 times as much

Space is just a premium in my kitchen/house and can't even think where I can put a 6 gallon glass carboy let along a 8 gallon brew kettle

I'm thinking I might ask for this one (http://mylhbs.com/Brew-Pot-With-Valve-%26-Thermo-Port-8-gal-0889/)  or this one (http://amzn.com/B007TV9LSU) as a xmas gift

probably going to need a mash tun too
I hate plastic, but do you use something like this
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31ykbvVvueL.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2015, 11:49:06 am
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 11:28:05 am
But usually wait for the bubbling to stop

give it a few days after bubbling has stopped.  yeast are still at work in there, cleaning up after themselves.  

Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 11:28:05 am
Last Dipa I brewed stopped bubbling and then did a zombie like revival and started bubbling again for a good 5 more days

exactly why you don't want to move too quickly.  had you bottled that beer before the zombie revival you would have had over-carbonated beer or bottle-bombs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on October 29, 2015, 11:51:30 am
A Keurig for Home Brewing (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-26/a-keurig-for-home-brewing-beer-will-give-you-small-batches-on-demand)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 29, 2015, 11:55:51 am
Quote from: ggw on October 29, 2015, 11:51:30 am
A Keurig for Home Brewing (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-26/a-keurig-for-home-brewing-beer-will-give-you-small-batches-on-demand)
I saw that and almost posted...not to bad for $499
I posted the other one they make and that was like $2500

although...kinda takes some of the fun out of brewing IMO
there is almost nothing to do but hit a button

Instead of loading up loose ingredients according to a recipe, you use prepackaged pods of grains, hops, and yeast. Just fill the chamber with water when you start, load in the different pods at each step, dump in the yeast pack, and you're good to go. It's only a little more complicated than popping a Green Mountain K-Cup into your Keurig, and instead of a single cup of steaming coffee, you get a big batch of IPA to share

guess I'm like those crazy kooks who play vinyl records
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 29, 2015, 11:57:44 am
Had a Bell's 30 year anniversary Imperial Stout. 11% ABV. That stuff was good and two of them had me calling it a night before 7p.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2015, 12:41:47 pm
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 11:46:39 am
I'm thinking I might ask for this one (http://mylhbs.com/Brew-Pot-With-Valve-%26-Thermo-Port-8-gal-0889/)  or this one (http://amzn.com/B007TV9LSU) as a xmas gift

get the bayou, no point in spending extra for essentially the same thing.

for a 5 gallon batch, you're going to need to collect about 6.5-7 gallons from your mashtun (some will be boiled off, some will be left behind, you want to put 5.5 gals in the carboy in order to get 5 gallons out).  boiling 7 gallons in an 8 gallon pot can be tricky.  get yourself some foam control drops (FermCap S), carefully ease back on the flame as you get to a boil, and/or consider buying a 10 gallon pot.  boil-overs are messy!

Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 11:46:39 am
probably going to need a mash tun too
I hate plastic, but do you use something like this
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31ykbvVvueL.jpg)

can't help you there as i don't use that kind of a MT.  i use a stainless pot wrapped in insulation with a false bottom on a single tier stand that continuously recirculates the wort.  i can add some heat by firing up the small burner under the pot when needed.  sorta looks like this one, mine is weldless too: http://www.aleiens.com/profiles/blogs/wallace-the-weldless-brew.  at some point i want to build a external heating element and control it electronically (RIMS system) but it's not a priority at the moment, the manual control of the flame is working just fine for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 29, 2015, 01:55:55 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 29, 2015, 11:57:44 am
Had a Bell's 30 year anniversary Imperial Stout. 11% ABV. That stuff was good and two of them had me calling it a night before 7p.

Bell's is certainly a fine brewery, but is there a reason you only seem to drink Bell's?  ;)

If it's a Michigan thing, I recommend you check out Founders, Jolly Pumpkin, and Dark Horse. Though the JP may be hard to find.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2015, 02:03:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 29, 2015, 01:55:55 pm
Though the JP may be hard to find.

and also likely to be something of a shock: they only make sour beer.  for my palette, sour beer is the nec plus ultra of fermented, but it's definitely an acquired taste. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 29, 2015, 02:21:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 29, 2015, 01:55:55 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on October 29, 2015, 11:57:44 am
Had a Bell's 30 year anniversary Imperial Stout. 11% ABV. That stuff was good and two of them had me calling it a night before 7p.

Bell's is certainly a fine brewery, but is there a reason you only seem to drink Bell's?  ;)

If it's a Michigan thing I recommend you check out Founders, Jolly Pumpkin, and Dark Horse. Though the JP may be hard to find.
I have had all of those: I like Founders, Dark Horse and Shorts, but cannot say I've had Jolly Pumpkin.

My neighborhood bar has a good relationship with the VA Bell's rep and they get all of that one-off stuff they produce. They usually have like 4 of their 12 taps dedicated to Bell's. They only have like one Founders beer at any given time (Breakfast Stout currently).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on October 29, 2015, 04:28:07 pm
beer, really gives me a belly, so I had to close the ole cellar door down.  sad really, for I like beer, and I like to have a little bit of a buzz from it, and i love the reaction of people in this area, when i tell them how much i just paid for a six pack of something good.  but, i don't, like having a belly.  i only drink water now, and i cry on the inside, just a little bit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 29, 2015, 07:17:54 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 29, 2015, 11:26:41 am
ignore any advice that has set dates for fermentation.  yeast can't read a calendar.  they do their own thing, on their own time.  depending on the conditions of your fermentation it could take longer or could be done faster.

48 hours after bubbling has stopped is a good line in the sand, but there is no harm in going longer.  for a beer that big i would forget about it for at least 14 days before looking at it (and 3 weeks would be more typical for me).  there is a lot of yeast to settle out, flavors to meld... no need to rush.

can't preach this enough. i had a DIPA once get stuck around 1020 and I bottled it because, well, it stopped bubbling. ended up draining all 40 or so bottles three weeks later when they were carbed up about 10 times as much as needed. did the whole operation with a face shield and a couple heavy long sleeve layers since an exploded bottle will send you to the ER pretty fast.

so, yeah, take a reading 48 hours after you think your done, and if it's not done, don't bottle it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 29, 2015, 07:22:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 29, 2015, 12:41:47 pm
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 11:46:39 am
probably going to need a mash tun too
I hate plastic, but do you use something like this
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31ykbvVvueL.jpg)

can't help you there as i don't use that kind of a MT.  i use a stainless pot wrapped in insulation with a false bottom on a single tier stand that continuously recirculates the wort.  i can add some heat by firing up the small burner under the pot when needed.  sorta looks like this one, mine is weldless too: http://www.aleiens.com/profiles/blogs/wallace-the-weldless-brew.  at some point i want to build a external heating element and control it electronically (RIMS system) but it's not a priority at the moment, the manual control of the flame is working just fine for me.

plastic mash-tuns are pretty much the most economical and simplest solution and it's what i've used for years. don't worry about it being plastic too much. the plastics are rated for much higher temperatures than what you'll be mashing in, so you don't have to worry much about chemicals leaching into your beer. it insulates well and keeps your mash temperatures constant.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 29, 2015, 10:15:43 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 29, 2015, 07:22:10 pm
don't worry about it being plastic too much. the plastics are rated for much higher temperatures than what you'll be mashing in, so you don't have to worry much about chemicals leaching into your beer. it insulates well and keeps your mash temperatures constant.

heat and plastic are just two bad things together...well, in this dude's opinion
So I'm really apprehensive

I'm running into a major storage issue with this 5 gallon equipment
the square feet are against me!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 29, 2015, 10:16:41 pm
opinions of brew in a bag technique?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 30, 2015, 08:34:26 am
Unless you're a damn good home brewer ala sweetcell, why would you want to get stuck with over 600oz of mediocre beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 09:07:23 am
Quote from: Yada on October 30, 2015, 08:34:26 am
Unless you're a damn good home brewer ala sweetcell, why would you want to get stuck with over 600oz of mediocre beer?

This.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 09:08:19 am
What kind of cheese would you guys pair with a Wild Ale/Flanders Red?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 09:38:50 am
Scored a six pack of Born Yesterday and a four pack of Backwoods Bastard yesterday. Can't wait to try the former tonight. The latter, no rush.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2015, 10:02:33 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 09:08:19 am
What kind of cheese would you guys pair with a Wild Ale/Flanders Red?
Richard?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2015, 10:04:39 am
Quote from: Yada on October 30, 2015, 08:34:26 am
Unless you're a damn good home brewer ala sweetcell, why would you want to get stuck with over 600oz of mediocre beer?
some people like making things with their hands and others just like to pay other people to do things

most great successes are preceded with a long list of failures, but when you get it right...it's worth the effort
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 30, 2015, 10:21:32 am
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 30, 2015, 10:04:39 am
some people like making things with their hands and others just like to pay other people to do things
Want to guess which side of this divide Julian's America comes down on?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 10:24:58 am
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 30, 2015, 10:04:39 am
Quote from: Yada on October 30, 2015, 08:34:26 am
Unless you're a damn good home brewer ala sweetcell, why would you want to get stuck with over 600oz of mediocre beer?
some people like making things with their hands and others just like to pay other people to do things

most great successes are preceded with a long list of failures, but when you get it right...it's worth the effort

Homebrewing is so 30 years ago.  ;D When the only alternative was mass-market swill, homebrewing would have made perfect sense to me. Given the amount of amazing  beer out there available at perfectly reasonable prices in 2015, I can't imagine why I'd want to suffer through my own likely mediocre creations.

Plus, the idea of drinking 600 ounces of any one beer just seems preposterous to me. I prefer variety.

Same goes for music. I suppose I could record myself singing and listen to it in the car, but I'll stick to those who are great at it. :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2015, 10:29:17 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on October 29, 2015, 04:28:07 pm
beer, really gives me a belly, so I had to close the ole cellar door down. 

beer doesn't give you a belly any more than any other source of calories.  the reason that beer drinkers get beer bellies is that they don't reduce their food calories to make up for the additional beer calories.

so you can still drink beer, just cut out the equivalent calories somewhere else.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 30, 2015, 10:34:07 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 30, 2015, 10:29:17 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on October 29, 2015, 04:28:07 pm
beer, really gives me a belly, so I had to close the ole cellar door down. 

beer doesn't give you a belly any more than any other source of calories.  the reason that beer drinkers get beer bellies is that they don't reduce their food calories to make up for the additional beer calories.

so you can still drink beer, just cut out the equivalent calories somewhere else.
Wow, it's almost like Calories In, Calories Out is part of the second law of thermodynamics, fat acceptance-rs, be darned!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 30, 2015, 10:34:13 am
I was at 3 Stars the other day getting yeast for an upcoming brew and saw this:

http://bootlegbiology.com/product/the-magi/

Apparently, it's the heady topper strain.  Anyone given it a shot?  I was really tempted, but needed a more dual purpose strain for my current brew schedule.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 30, 2015, 10:45:47 am
As part of my quest for the perfect IPA, I tried the Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA at the Birchmere the other night and was pleasantly surprised.  Great aroma and a yummy juicy flavor!!! Gots to find some more...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 30, 2015, 10:56:22 am
Quote from: Bagley on October 30, 2015, 10:45:47 am
As part of my quest for the perfect IPA, I tried the Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA at the Birchmere the other night and was pleasantly surprised.  Great aroma and a yummy juicy flavor!!! Gots to find some more...

I agree... that's a nice, easily available IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 10:58:39 am
Quote from: Bagley on October 30, 2015, 10:45:47 am
As part of my quest for the perfect IPA, I tried the Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA at the Birchmere the other night and was pleasantly surprised.  Great aroma and a yummy juicy flavor!!! Gots to find some more...

Wow, that's beer geek dedication. Enduring a show at the Birchmere just to try a specific beer. Next time just head to Total Wine or Whole Foods or any reputable beer store!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 30, 2015, 11:01:16 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 10:58:39 am
Quote from: Bagley on October 30, 2015, 10:45:47 am
As part of my quest for the perfect IPA, I tried the Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA at the Birchmere the other night and was pleasantly surprised.  Great aroma and a yummy juicy flavor!!! Gots to find some more...

Wow, that's beer geek dedication. Enduring a show at the Birchmere just to try a specific beer. Next time just head to Total Wine or Whole Foods or any reputable beer store!
I go to Birchmere for the food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 30, 2015, 11:11:59 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 10:58:39 am
Quote from: Bagley on October 30, 2015, 10:45:47 am
As part of my quest for the perfect IPA, I tried the Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA at the Birchmere the other night and was pleasantly surprised.  Great aroma and a yummy juicy flavor!!! Gots to find some more...

Wow, that's beer geek dedication. Enduring a show at the Birchmere just to try a specific beer. Next time just head to Total Wine or Whole Foods or any reputable beer store!

HA! Yes, the Jay Farrar show was quite tedious (except for the killer pedal steel player).  Not too mention the opener - Holy Sons- one of the most depressive musical acts I've ever witnessed.  On the other hand, the  recent Watkins Family Hour gig  was tremendous.

Unfortunately, no Deschutes in Maryland....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2015, 12:15:29 pm

B Chord Brewing Company
Yesterday at 8:51am · Edited ·


how did it go yesterday? Terrible. Awful. Disturbing. All words that describe what is happening to us. Apparently we have become ground zero for the fight over farm breweries in Virginia and agriculture tourism in Loudoun County.

When I met with Loudoun County officials repeatedly in the Fall of last year to discuss my brewery plans they indicated that it was exactly what they had envisioned would be an idea Farm Brewery for Loudoun. The Loudoun Board Of Supervisors overwhelming voted to pass the zoning ordinances enabling Farm Breweries in January. They made the rules and they passed them. The Economic Development folks strongly encouraged us to proceed and offered any help they could bring. I worked closely with the Counties Economic Development Team, The Zoning Department and the Health Department to address issues and potential problems that they had learned about from some of the other breweries that have already opened. In fact, many of the County employees indicated to me that we were a ?model for how this should go?. The County added us to the Go Loudoun brewery farm trail and publicly supported our Brewery along with the other already opened farm breweries. Plenty of politicians also indicated that they supported farm breweries and would be happy to see us open. A few visited the farm to show that support. Over the course of the summer we built a 1 acre hops yard growing 6 different hops varieties. We received lots of help both from the county and from the state with our initial hops plantings etc. We invested over $100K on site development work like grading, parking area and even a commercial septic system. We continued to built out or brewery and at the appropriate time we filled for our ABC Brewery license. We expected to be open by now.

Everything has now changed. A handful of self righteous people that live around the farm have decided that they will single handedly undue the SB430 that enabled the Farm Breweries and will overcome Loudoun?s zoning laws so that they can keep their corner of paradise to themselves. They don?t care how much money it will cost and they are prepared to destroy people lives in order to get what they want. They have decided that the laws are vague enough and can be left to interpretation to the point that they could push their desire for no ABC licenses in rural areas to the courts. As an example, VA law says that a license should not be granted if it is determined it would ruin the quietude of an area. One of my neighbors is claiming that 5 cars passing his house ruins the quietude of his area. Another example is the law says that a license may be denied if there are to many licensed establishments in the area. One of the neighbors claims that 2 operations is to many and that ABC must deny our license. Their lawyer and one of the objectors paying for this assault told VA ABC yesterday that they intend to go all the way to the supreme court to undue the laws that allow breweries and other ABC licensed businesses in rural areas.

Yesterdays pre hearing meeting went over 4 hours and left everyone frustrated. The objectors hassled everyone and even though ABC has bent over backwards to accommodate them they continue to be rude, obnoxious and unprofessional in their public appearances. They are unbelievable arrogant. They have made it clear that they believe their $$ speak louder then our laws.

Now, add an election to the mix and you have a perfect storm. The Objectors decided that they could create a panic through the county and launched a false, misleading and slanderous public relations campaign against us and farm breweries. They mailed out 5500 postcards to western Loudoun residents and ran full page newspapers ads proclaiming that farm breweries would ruin Loudoun and affect the publics safety. They made unbelievable statements about farm breweries draining the aquifer and that streams would flow backwards leaving nobody with water in western Loudoun. The told everyone that farm breweries are actually bars and that we would be open till 2am with outdoor stadium lighting. As you can imagine the intended panic did happen and it became a circus. Numerous newspaper stories and even TV reports where published describing the ?fight? the objectors had launched.

Unfortunately, when the public received the inaccurate and slanderous information they started calling every government official that would take their calls. Every single dept of whatever was called and we started to get calls and visits from these agencies. Once again we complied with all request and followed all requirements. We remained a model for how this should go. We expected the politicians that supported the brewery and passed the zoning legislation to support us. We found out the hard way that they flipped immediately when they started to receive this inaccurate information. No calls or visits to us or any other farm brewery to determine if the information being passed around was accurate. They just flipped. At this point if they have not already run for the hills the have made it clear they don?t support form breweries any longer. I cannot find one politician who will stand up right now and tell us they support farm breweries. That is disturbing. I heard from one of them yesterday that they intend to re-write SB430 and require hundreds of acres of land to have a farm brewery and that there would be no grandfathering- so if you don?t have required hundreds of acres you will be SHUT DOWN.

Friends and supporters- we are under full attack and at this point have no or little support from the government officials that encouraged us to go down this road. What can you do? We need everyone that believes in what we are doing to get on the phone and start sending emails to their representatives at the state and local levels. We need your help to make sure the politicians and the public get the correct information about about breweries, wineries and other agro tourism business. If they are able to undue SB430 and the county zoning by simply spending their $$ to scare the hell out of everyone it will be a travesty and serious setback for anyone that thinks they can have a business in a rural area of Virginia.

We also need as much support as possible at Monday?s hearing. You won?t need to speak but just showing up in overwhelming numbers will help to send the message to ABC and the politicians that these handful of people do not speak for the community.

Thanks for your help and stay tuned for updates.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2015, 12:37:34 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 29, 2015, 07:22:10 pm
plastic mash-tuns are pretty much the most economical and simplest solution and it's what i've used for years. don't worry about it being plastic too much. the plastics are rated for much higher temperatures than what you'll be mashing in, so you don't have to worry much about chemicals leaching into your beer. it insulates well and keeps your mash temperatures constant.

+1 - it's made to hold hot drinks as well as cold. 

Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:15:43 pm
heat and plastic are just two bad things together...well, in this dude's opinion
So I'm really apprehensive

heat and plastic that aren't meant for heat are just two bad things together.  i'm not a fan of plastics either, but i'd be comfortable in this case.

Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:15:43 pm
I'm running into a major storage issue with this 5 gallon equipment
the square feet are against me!

i hear ya, if i wasn't out in the 'burbs i wouldn't have a quarter of the equipment i currently have.  do you have any outdoor space?  a shed in the backyard?  mash tuns and kettles don't need to be kept indoors.

Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:16:41 pm
opinions of brew in a bag technique?

works great.  it's how i got my start in all-grain (AG).  get a good bag, you want a really fine mesh.  none of the grain, flour, etc should escape the bag, only liquid should get out.  you'll also want a quick-read digital thermometer (this this one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0021AEAG2)) - you'll need to check the temp of your mash regularly, mix to distribute heat, and occasionally turn on the burner to add heat (or figure out if you can leave the burner on at a low temp continuously).  traditionally BIAB is done with the full volume of water, but you'll get better extract if your only use some for the mash and then sparge/rinse with the remaining water (make sure the sparge water is heated to 160-170*F). one small drawback of BIAB is that you can't recirculate (vorlauf) so the wort tends to be a little cloudier.  i don't know if this effects anything more than appearance.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2015, 12:54:19 pm
Quote from: imbecile on October 30, 2015, 10:34:13 am
I was at 3 Stars the other day getting yeast for an upcoming brew and saw this:

http://bootlegbiology.com/product/the-magi/

Apparently, it's the heady topper strain.  Anyone given it a shot?  I was really tempted, but needed a more dual purpose strain for my current brew schedule.

that strain is called Conan. i haven't used Bootleg Biology's version, but I have a DIPA fermenting right now with Barbarian from Imperial Organic Yeast (http://www.imperialyeast.com/yeast-strains/).

Conan can be finicky, lots of stories good and bad on HBT (example (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=397947)).  i've used it once before (from GigaYeast) and it didn't attenuate quite as much as i wanted.  ended up using another strain (US-05, i think) to beat down the sweetness.  that IPA was delicious.

conan seems to be doing a better job this time 'round, still chugging along nicely on days 5 but i won't know for at least another week- i'll take a gravity reading just before i dry-hop.  not something i usually do but i don't trust conan.  yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2015, 01:49:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 30, 2015, 12:37:34 pm
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:15:43 pm
I'm running into a major storage issue with this 5 gallon equipment
the square feet are against me!



i hear ya, if i wasn't out in the 'burbs i wouldn't have a quarter of the equipment i currently have.  do you have any outdoor space?  a shed in the backyard?  mash tuns and kettles don't need to be kept indoors.

I do have a shed and figure the Kettle and mash tun could go out there
but the glass carboy has to be indoors...so working on the grand compromise with the misses on that one

Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 29, 2015, 10:16:41 pm
opinions of brew in a bag technique?


Quote

works great.  it's how i got my start in all-grain (AG).  get a good bag, you want a really fine mesh.  none of the grain, flour, etc should escape the bag, only liquid should get out.  you'll also want a quick-read digital thermometer (this this one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0021AEAG2)) - you'll need to check the temp of your mash regularly, mix to distribute heat, and occasionally turn on the burner to add heat (or figure out if you can leave the burner on at a low temp continuously).  traditionally BIAB is done with the full volume of water, but you'll get better extract if your only use some for the mash and then sparge/rinse with the remaining water (make sure the sparge water is heated to 160-170*F). one small drawback of BIAB is that you can't recirculate (vorlauf) so the wort tends to be a little cloudier.  i don't know if this effects anything more than appearance.

this is the Thermometer (http://amzn.com/B002GEA56W) I have...very accurate
BIAB is really appealing not having to deal with the sparge as that is quite cumbersome and I'm only doing 1 gallon batches.

I've got a nice big fine mesh screen that will fit all the grains and then I can heat up a few gallons of 170 water to run through twice...but it's just a lot of work and moving stuff around and typically there is some wort or grain on every surface of the stove/floor that has to be dealt with
Easily could save about 30-45 mins and less clean up
but there is something satisfying to slowly stirring a big old pot of grain opposed to just bobbing a bag up and down

I could avoid the Mash tun if I did the BIAB
I really like doing full grain vs Extract
The Extract just seems like cheating. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 30, 2015, 04:31:24 pm
a few random thoughts addressing the past three pages of posts:
-BIAB is great, but you definitely lack some control on efficiency. your setup sounds like BIAB would be a better option.
-plastics and hot water... as an engineer who deals with the carcinogenic effect of all different chemicals, a plastic mash tun is about the least of your worries.
-conan rules, but i'll take the simplicity of 1318 over conan every day.
-fresh squeezed IPA is fantastic.
-sweetcell is an excellent homebrewer. there's thousands more across the country just like him making super ambitious, crazy shit that can (and often does) blow away commercial offerings.
-and for the haters on homebrewing... you guys must be a blast at parties.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 30, 2015, 04:34:54 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 30, 2015, 04:31:24 pm
-and for the haters on homebrewing... you guys must be a blast at parties.

Have you ever stood around homebrewers talking about their craft at a party?

The only thing worse is people talking about their Burning Man experience. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2015, 04:36:28 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 30, 2015, 04:31:24 pm

-and for the haters on homebrewing... you guys must be a blast at parties.
this!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2015, 04:38:03 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 30, 2015, 04:34:54 pm

Have you ever stood around homebrewers talking about their craft at a party?

and this!
there is no right answer...but aspiring to craft something great is a far better venture than swiping your credit card
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2015, 04:57:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 30, 2015, 08:34:26 am
Unless you're a damn good home brewer ala sweetcell, why would you want to get stuck with over 600oz of mediocre beer?

not all of my beer is great.  i only serve to others the good stuff, so people have an inflated view of my brewing skills ;D

the fact that SideX wants to move up to 5 gallons tells me that he beer is more than mediocre.

5 gallons of beer is about 50 12-oz bottles.  give a few away to friends and family, throw a party and boom, you're out before you know it.

Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 30, 2015, 10:04:39 am
some people like making things with their hands and others just like to pay other people to do things

most great successes are preceded with a long list of failures, but when you get it right...it's worth the effort

+1 gazillion.  some people just like making their own things, including food and drink.  it's easier to buy bread than to make it, but plenty of folks bake their own bread.  plus, it's just boss to be able to say "i brew my own beer"; or to hand someone a beer, have them say "hey this is good, what is this", and be able to answer "mine."

Quote from: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 10:24:58 am
Homebrewing is so 30 years ago.  ;D When the only alternative was mass-market swill, homebrewing would have made perfect sense to me. Given the amount of amazing  beer out there available at perfectly reasonable prices in 2015, I can't imagine why I'd want to suffer through my own likely mediocre creations.

fine, but what if it wasn't mediocre?  homebrewing isn't that hard.  anyone can make good beer with just a little practice and the right equipment.  and there are all sorts of other reasons to brew: ability to make any beer you want (ever had a citra dry-hopped rye stout?  can't buy one...).  the process is a lot of fun, my brew days are mini vacations.  ability to control ingredients.  preparing for the zombie apocalypse.  etc.

Quote from: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 10:24:58 am
Plus, the idea of drinking 600 ounces of any one beer just seems preposterous to me. I prefer variety.
 
for those of us that drink more than 3 oz per sitting, the task is a little less daunting... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 30, 2015, 05:01:35 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 30, 2015, 04:57:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 30, 2015, 08:34:26 am
Unless you're a damn good home brewer ala sweetcell, why would you want to get stuck with over 600oz of mediocre beer?

not all of my beer is great.  i only serve to others the good stuff, so people have an inflated view of my brewing skills ;D

the fact that SideX wants to move up to 5 gallons tells me that he beer is more than mediocre.

5 gallons of beer is about 50 12-oz bottles.  give a few away to friends and family, throw a party and boom, you're out before you know it.

Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on October 30, 2015, 10:04:39 am
some people like making things with their hands and others just like to pay other people to do things

most great successes are preceded with a long list of failures, but when you get it right...it's worth the effort

+1 gazillion.  some people just like making their own things, including food and drink.  it's easier to buy bread than to make it, but plenty of folks bake their own bread.  plus, it's just boss to be able to say "i brew my own beer"; or to hand someone a beer, have them say "hey this is good, what is this", and be able to answer "mine."

Quote from: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 10:24:58 am
Homebrewing is so 30 years ago.  ;D When the only alternative was mass-market swill, homebrewing would have made perfect sense to me. Given the amount of amazing  beer out there available at perfectly reasonable prices in 2015, I can't imagine why I'd want to suffer through my own likely mediocre creations.

fine, but what if it wasn't mediocre?  homebrewing isn't that hard.  anyone can make good beer with just a little practice and the right equipment.  and there are all sorts of other reasons to brew: ability to make any beer you want (ever had a citra dry-hopped rye stout?  can't buy one...).  the process is a lot of fun, my brew days are mini vacations.  ability to control ingredients.  preparing for the zombie apocalypse.  etc.

Quote from: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 10:24:58 am
Plus, the idea of drinking 600 ounces of any one beer just seems preposterous to me. I prefer variety.
 
for those of us that drink more than 3 oz per sitting, the task is a little less daunting... ;D

^^all excellent points^^

I'm just assuming sidehutch is making crappy beer. My apologies!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 30, 2015, 05:38:20 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 30, 2015, 04:34:54 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 30, 2015, 04:31:24 pm
-and for the haters on homebrewing... you guys must be a blast at parties.

Have you ever stood around homebrewers talking about their craft at a party?

The only thing worse is people talking about their Burning Man experience. 

i hear you. but you live in the bay area, where the amount of smug assholes per square mile is high, so don't try and extrapolate this experience to the rest of the sane world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 30, 2015, 05:55:27 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 30, 2015, 05:38:20 pm
i hear you. but you live in the bay area, where the amount of smug assholes per square mile is high, so don't try and extrapolate this experience to the rest of the sane world.

You're talking to the Smuggest of the Assholes, so my tolerance is pretty high.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 30, 2015, 07:18:06 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 30, 2015, 05:55:27 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 30, 2015, 05:38:20 pm
i hear you. but you live in the bay area, where the amount of smug assholes per square mile is high, so don't try and extrapolate this experience to the rest of the sane world.

You're talking to the Smuggest of the Assholes, so my tolerance is pretty high.
Um, hello, son!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 07:31:43 pm
I wasn't knocking homebrewing per se. It's a great hobby, and I greatly admire those who do it well. I was just offering a couple of the many reasons why it isn't for me, at least at this juncture.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2015, 09:47:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 30, 2015, 05:01:35 pm
I'm just assuming sidehutch is making crappy beer. My apologies!
you know what they say when you exhume

I'm on my 11th batch in 2015
I'd say I'm batting about .700 of decent to really good batches
only one was horrible (course I still drank it)
at least 4 I thought (and a few others agreed) were fantastic
(although certainly offensive to the cultured pallets of spada and yadeely)
Taste hasn't been my biggest obstacle...body/bubbles has been my albatross

I've had and made weak batches...guess they call that an occupational hazard (or recreational hazard)
I've also ruined a turkey once, but have honed my skills and make a mean bird with crispy skin now

One thing that is great (and intimidating) is the immense variety of styles and techniques, but the 'open source' nature of recipes is just nuts.  To boot the ease of access to the exact ingredients is also unbelievable.  I have to only imagine in the past brewers were very secretive of their techniques and recipes, but not today
 

 


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 31, 2015, 11:36:05 am
Very nice road trip design here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/31/the-ultimate-beer-drinking-road-trip-according-to-data-scientists/

It looks like they could and should easily add Firestone Walker and Ommegang on the direct path. The Virginia homer in me says they should also hit Hardywood, Lickinghole, and Ocelot. And sub Holy Mountain in place of Elysian while in Seattle. And as good as their beer is, there's no actual tasting room to visit for Pipeworks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on October 31, 2015, 02:36:58 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 30, 2015, 04:34:54 pm
Quote from: fart sound on October 30, 2015, 04:31:24 pm
-and for the haters on homebrewing... you guys must be a blast at parties.

Have you ever stood around homebrewers talking about their craft at a party?

The only thing worse is people talking about their Burning Man experience. 

This made my day!  I've never experienced the homebrewers thing, but the Burning Man conversation is the worst ever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on October 31, 2015, 04:58:54 pm
Sorry, belly . . . But, I just found harvest ale and backwoods bastard.  And all the growlers of both I can carry in about 2 weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 02, 2015, 11:11:51 am
had my first bad (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22951/134413/) Clown Shoes beer this weekend, what a let-down from an otherwise amazing brewery.

also pulled out a Woot Stout which was bought back in july.  not sure if i like it better fresh of aged, but it's amazing either way.

Quote from: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 09:08:19 am
What kind of cheese would you guys pair with a Wild Ale/Flanders Red?

i'd want something equally funky.  either a stinky french soft cheese, or maybe a blue.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 02, 2015, 11:19:03 am
Thanks, I tend to agree. I had gorgonzola, cheddar, and double crème brie in the fridge.

Ended up pairing the first two with Crooked Stave Surette, and the last one with FW Velvet Merkin 2014. Just the tip of the iceberg of a great beer weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 02, 2015, 11:23:44 am
had an LOL moment when I clicked over to the BA site and is said in a pop up

Hello, is it beer you're looking for?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 02, 2015, 11:26:11 am
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 02, 2015, 11:23:44 am
had an LOL moment when I clicked over to the BA site and is said in a pop up

Hello, is it beer you're looking for?

I was looking for Lionel Ritchie, to be fair. . .
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 02, 2015, 12:55:33 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on November 02, 2015, 11:26:11 am
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 02, 2015, 11:23:44 am
had an LOL moment when I clicked over to the BA site and is said in a pop up

Hello, is it beer you're looking for?

I was looking for Lionel Ritchie, to be fair. . .

(http://d3310hm27mievn.galaxant.com/000/117/783/desktop-1424116516.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 02, 2015, 12:58:24 pm
I have always wanted to commission a bust of him like in the music video but without any hair. Then, at parties, I would apply his afro out of bean dip and use it as a functional, decorative centerpiece. It'd be a conversation starter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 02, 2015, 02:37:56 pm
Quote from: SideBiach |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 02, 2015, 11:23:44 am
had an LOL moment when I clicked over to the BA site and is said in a pop up

Hello, is it beer you're looking for?

the notifications on that site are terrible. it's a little better with an account, but not by much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 12, 2015, 02:05:56 pm
anyone know where you can pick up these Bourbon County (http://www.porchdrinking.com/articles/2015/11/11/showcasing-the-entire-2015-bourbon-county-brand-stout-lineup/) delights?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 12, 2015, 02:16:11 pm
tasted Alework's Speedway Stout yesterday.  creamy, just a tad sweet, not too much coffee.... damn that's a fine beer. 

Quote from: Leck Mich im Arsch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 12, 2015, 02:05:56 pm
anyone know where you can pick up these Bourbon County (http://www.porchdrinking.com/articles/2015/11/11/showcasing-the-entire-2015-bourbon-county-brand-stout-lineup/) delights?

they'll be around everywhere.  walmart, costco, sam's club...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 12, 2015, 02:18:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 12, 2015, 02:16:11 pm

they'll be around everywhere.  walmart, costco, sam's club...
did you forget to use your sarcasm font?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 12, 2015, 02:31:34 pm
With AB-Inbev's decision to drop the four pack format and go with pricier (per ounce) 16.9 oz single bottles this year, I'm much less stoked about the BCBS release this year. May not ever bother. Wish I had stockpiled more of the 12 oz bottles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 12, 2015, 02:47:29 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 12, 2015, 02:31:34 pm
With AB-Inbev's decision to drop the four pack format and go with pricier (per ounce) 16.9 oz single bottles this year, I'm much less stoked about the BCBS release this year. May not ever bother. Wish I had stockpiled more of the 12 oz bottles.

format aside (and yeah, i also think the change of format is bullshit), don't buy that shit, period. AB-Inbev is buying up every damn barrel of bourbon possible to increase production and corner the bourbon barrel aging market. the result is less options for consumers and higher prices for existing products. nothing about that beer is worth your time and effort and money.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 12, 2015, 02:49:27 pm
Quote from: Leck Mich im Arsch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 12, 2015, 02:18:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 12, 2015, 02:16:11 pm

they'll be around everywhere.  walmart, costco, sam's club...
did you forget to use your sarcasm font?

i doubt it. AB-Inbev rewards their stores that sell the most AB-Inbev products by hooking them up with a couple of cases of BCBS and some of the variants. out in seattle, the place to find BCBS is your major chain stores.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 13, 2015, 09:56:30 pm
so have you heard of the OneDerBrew (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1131586455/pico-brew-conical-fermentortm-for-small-batches-of?ref=nav_search)?

Could get the 3 gallon one and a mini fridge

I kinda hate bottling
but would be restricted to one batch at a time and no gift beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 14, 2015, 08:35:10 pm
you sound like you're pondering your brew setup and what will work.

i've got an electric stovetop and no outdoor space at my current apartment. i brew exclusively 3 gallon batches with a mini-mash and mostly extract-driven recipes. i don't do any temperature control, i don't do yeast starters, i use excessive hops and fruit, i dry-hop in the keg, i don't own a half decent thermometer, and i could care less how efficient my brewery system is. sweetcell is probably throwing up as he reads this, but he also probably understands where i'm coming from. you gotta work with what you're given.

 i don't think that system would solve your issues about hating bottling. picobrew is awesome, and the folks are really nice people too. maybe that's a system that you can make work for you.

kegging has it's own challenges. i've got two 3-gal kegs and two 5-gal kegs. i use them as serving kegs but also temporarily convert them to fermenters or secondary vessels. i've flirted with pressurized fermentation, but i'll save that for another post when i understand what the fuck i'm doing. kegs are easy to handle, easy to clean, and make carbonation a breeze. that said, you got to keep up with your keg maintenance (o-rings replaced frequently, dip tubes cleaned, fittings tightened), you gotta keep a full CO2 tank, and running a kegerator definitely impacts your energy bill. how many beers do you want on tap? i've got only one tap.  just a few things that you should consider before deciding that kegging is right for you. for me? i'll never go back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 15, 2015, 01:30:45 am
Quote from: fart sound on November 14, 2015, 08:35:10 pm
i don't do any temperature control, i don't do yeast starters, i use excessive hops and fruit, i dry-hop in the keg, i don't own a half decent thermometer, and i could care less how efficient my brewery system is. sweetcell is probably throwing up as he reads this, but he also probably understands where i'm coming from. you gotta work with what you're given.

nah, not throwing up, and yes i completely understand where you're coming from.  i have no doubt that you are still brewing awesome beer (haven't had yours in forever).  breaking it down:
- i don't do any temperature control: of all the things you wrote, this is the only one that made me scratch my head.  unless you're using belgian yeasts, or your place is pretty cold, you'll get the best flavors profiles from the yeast if you control temps.  a water bath with ice can be incredibly effective.  it's what i use.
- i don't do yeast starters: plenty of other ways of getting enough yeast in there.
- i use excessive hops and fruit: there is no suck thing ;D
- i dry-hop in the keg: as long as you're not clogging your dip-tube, i can't imaging what the problem would be.
- i don't own a half decent thermometer: how do you monitor your mini-mash?
- and i could care less how efficient my brewery system is: nobody should.  if you're not efficient, use a dollar more of malt.

i still bottle everything.  i somewhat perversely enjoy the process.  i would switch over to kegging tomorrow if i had space for a kegarator.  actually, i'd switch some of my beers over.  sours and long-aged beers would still be bottled.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 15, 2015, 04:49:52 pm
temperature control is for the birds ;) actually, seattle indoor temps don't fluctuate too much, so i figure the +/- 5 degrees isn't so bad. might be totally off base, but i haven't noticed a major flaw in quality yet.

i no longer clog the diptube! i've cleaned out dozens of diptubes and poppets before i've learned my lesson.

i recently realized that my thermometer seems to be way off of calibration. i checked it maybe 6 months ago and it was accurate, but lately i think it's been off. thinking about getting something way more precise.

i think it's dumb that i don't bottle my sours, but having ~2 gallons on a keg isn't that much sour beer to go through.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on November 15, 2015, 07:42:06 pm
I just acquired a growler of founders harvest ale. Drank half, already. The end. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 15, 2015, 08:17:39 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 14, 2015, 08:35:10 pm
3 gallon batches with a mini-mash and mostly extract-driven recipes.
What's a Mini-mash?
I need to get over extracts, but I do like doing all grain
 seems like you really making it from scratch


I have been seriously thinking about going up to 3 gal batches, but I've got to get a new boil pot and carboy and finding space has really got me down

What size pot would be best for 3 gallon batches?

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i don't do yeast starters,
is that liquid yeast?
I've had good luck with the dried yeast
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dry-hop in the keg,
is this in addition to the hops during the boil or do you only dry hop?

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picobrew is awesome

it is pretty slick
Right now you can get it for $499, but that's way out of my budget at the moment

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kegging has it's own challenges.
I know and as for space that would be even worse as I'd need to get some sort of mini fridge

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 15, 2015, 08:49:25 pm
Founders Breakfast Stout seems to taste extra good this year. What do y'all think?

Lagunitas Born Yesterday is the best mass produced wet hop ale I've ever had. Better than Founders, better than Victory, better than Sierra Nevada. Pick up a six pack and drink immediately.

I don't care where Alpine Pure Hoppiness was brewed. It's a damn good beer. Pick up a six pack when you can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 15, 2015, 09:47:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 15, 2015, 08:49:25 pm
Founders Breakfast Stout seems to taste extra good this year. What do y'all think?
Had a 4 pack this week and loved every drop, can't recall it tasting any different than last year
one of my favorites now
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 16, 2015, 12:59:05 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 15, 2015, 08:49:25 pm
Founders Breakfast Stout seems to taste extra good this year. What do y'all think?

Lagunitas Born Yesterday is the best mass produced wet hop ale I've ever had. Better than Founders, better than Victory, better than Sierra Nevada. Pick up a six pack and drink immediately.

I don't care where Alpine Pure Hoppiness was brewed. It's a damn good beer. Pick up a six pack when you can.

PH fades faster than BY, and is twice the price, but it's a damn fine DIPA.

the amount of fresh hopped beer i drank this fall was absurd. BY was somewhere near the top of the list of favorites. breakside, laurelwood, fremont, bale breaker, and ft george all made unreal fresh hopped beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 16, 2015, 01:05:48 am
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 15, 2015, 08:17:39 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 14, 2015, 08:35:10 pm
3 gallon batches with a mini-mash and mostly extract-driven recipes.
What's a Mini-mash?
I need to get over extracts, but I do like doing all grain
 seems like you really making it from scratch

mini-mash... it's somewhere between a grain steep and brew-in-the-bag. i steep 2 or 3 lbs of crushed grain (mostly specialty like marris otter or munich) for an hour at 150 degrees F.


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I have been seriously thinking about going up to 3 gal batches, but I've got to get a new boil pot and carboy and finding space has really got me down

What size pot would be best for 3 gallon batches?

5 gallon pot is fine.

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i don't do yeast starters,
is that liquid yeast?
I've had good luck with the dried yeast

yea, i use dry yeast, too. wyeast smack-packs aere like a mini-yeast starter. a yeast starter just means you introduce the bugs to sugar early so they start growing in population. it makes it easier/faster for fermentation to occur on a larger scale.

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dry-hop in the keg,
is this in addition to the hops during the boil or do you only dry hop?

yeah, i do heavy hopping late in the boil (10 minutes through cooling stage) and then dry hop in a stainless steel mesh cylinder.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 16, 2015, 10:20:05 am
I also couldn't tell any difference in this year's breakfast stout versus prior years but I have, admittedly, an uncultured beer palette.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 16, 2015, 10:36:53 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 15, 2015, 08:49:25 pm
Founders Breakfast Stout seems to taste extra good this year. What do y'all think?


I don't think it tastes any different than previous batches, I just think one forgets how amazing it is from season to season. I'm slowly working through a case but would have to say it's in my top ten if not top five go to beers.

Also, I was drinking Miller High Life out of a champagne flute at Roses Luxury this week.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 16, 2015, 10:52:24 am
Speaking of beers that taste way different than previous iterations: Hardywood's 2015 Gingerbread Stout. I liked this in past years but had one this weekend and its fucking terrible. Tasted like tar. I could barely finish the thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 16, 2015, 10:53:36 am
Quote from: Yada on November 16, 2015, 10:36:53 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 15, 2015, 08:49:25 pm
Founders Breakfast Stout seems to taste extra good this year. What do y'all think?


I don't think it tastes any different than previous batches, I just think one forgets how amazing it is from season to season. I'm slowly working through a case but would have to say it's in my top ten if not top five go to beers.



Perhaps you are right. Several people on Beer Advocate commented that this year's batch was especially good, but that's just completely subjective opinion I reckon. I think too often I get caught in the whole whale culture. And since Breakfast Stout is pretty widely available for several months of the year (in VA and DC anyway), it ends up getting slightly taken for granted, at least by me. Perhaps i'm digging it so much because the last one I had was atop Old Rag Mountain.

I was drinking a Hennepin the other day, and thought to myself, damn I should be drinking this far more often than I do. But I don't, because I typically have this "need" to grab a little bit of any highly regarded seasonal or limited release that comes along (or bring home beer unavailable here from a trip...thank goodness I haven't become a trade regular!) and that's what I end up drinking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 16, 2015, 10:58:39 am
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on November 16, 2015, 10:52:24 am
Speaking of beers that taste way different than previous iterations: Hardywood's 2015 Gingerbread Stout. I liked this in past years but had one this weekend and its fucking terrible. Tasted like tar. I could barely finish the thing.

Before I ever tasted that beer, I bought a pile of bottles at the release party for it, several years ago. Then I tasted it, and I hated it. Forced me to do the only beer trading I've ever done. I pulled off some pretty amazing trades for the bottles I got. Since then they've started brewing way more of it, doubt it would have much trade value.

I'm also sitting on a bottle of 2014 Bourbon GBS. People seem to love it, I bought it simply out of curiosity. Not sure I want more than an ounce of three. Seems like a good candidate to bring to a dinner we're going to in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2015, 11:51:32 am
and there goes Ballast Point (http://beerpulse.com/2015/11/constellation-brands-to-acquire-ballast-point-brewing-for-1-billion-4035/) for $1 billion
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 16, 2015, 11:53:56 am
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 16, 2015, 11:51:32 am
and there goes Ballast Point (http://beerpulse.com/2015/11/constellation-brands-to-acquire-ballast-point-brewing-for-1-billion-4035/) for $1 billion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKdCmxjYDE
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 16, 2015, 12:04:22 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 16, 2015, 11:51:32 am
and there goes Ballast Point (http://beerpulse.com/2015/11/constellation-brands-to-acquire-ballast-point-brewing-for-1-billion-4035/) for $1 billion

I don't know anything about Constellation. Are we supposed to hate this? Or hate it any less than if it was AB-inbev? Please tell us, fart sound.

On a side note, didn't realize Jack White founded Ballast Point. Is there anything that guy can't do?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2015, 12:08:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 16, 2015, 12:04:22 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 16, 2015, 11:51:32 am
and there goes Ballast Point (http://beerpulse.com/2015/11/constellation-brands-to-acquire-ballast-point-brewing-for-1-billion-4035/) for $1 billion

I don't know anything about Constellation.

Constellation Brands (NYSE: STZ and STZ.B) is a leading international producer and marketer of beer, wine and spirits with operations in the U.S., Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Italy.

 with high-end, iconic imported brands including Corona Extra, Corona Light, Modelo Especial, Negra Modelo and Pacifico. Constellation is also the world?s leader in premium wine, selling great brands that people love including Robert Mondavi, Clos du Bois, Kim Crawford, Rex Goliath, Mark West, Franciscan Estate, Ruffino and Jackson-Triggs. The company?s premium spirits brands include SVEDKA Vodka and Black Velvet Canadian Whisky.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 16, 2015, 12:34:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 16, 2015, 12:04:22 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 16, 2015, 11:51:32 am
and there goes Ballast Point (http://beerpulse.com/2015/11/constellation-brands-to-acquire-ballast-point-brewing-for-1-billion-4035/) for $1 billion

I don't know anything about Constellation. Are we supposed to hate this? Or hate it any less than if it was AB-inbev? Please tell us, fart sound.

On a side note, didn't realize Jack White founded Ballast Point. Is there anything that guy can't do?

haven't bought a ballast point beer in years and could care less. i guess all those $17 six-packs purchased of sculpin add up, $1 billion? that's crazy.

when elysian sold it was a conscious decision to go with AB-inbev for less money. i'm guessing constellation is going to do whatever the fuck they want with the ballast point brand after buying it for $1 billion.

file under hate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on November 16, 2015, 01:58:58 pm
people who thought sculpin was awesome have moved on to something else.  beer, is like fashion now.  snooty, know conscious individuals who literally wait for the next thing to like, hate, move on, and wonder why they liked it in the first place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 16, 2015, 02:12:03 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on November 16, 2015, 01:58:58 pm
people who thought sculpin was awesome have moved on to something else.  beer, is like fashion now.  snooty, know conscious individuals who literally wait for the next thing to like, hate, move on, and wonder why they liked it in the first place.

I don't buy Sculpin for the reasons Mr. Fart said above... $20 six packs of beer that's probably already 90 days old.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 16, 2015, 03:08:02 pm
I don't buy Sculpin because there's a dozen other IPA's available that are just as good and typically cheaper. Especially the special release stuff when you know it's fresh.

However, I don't think I could find a suitable replacement for Victory at Sea. That stuff is just fantastic and unique, in my book.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 16, 2015, 03:10:04 pm
If anybody ever has an occasion where they're looking for a good but pricey Italian beer, I can attest that this one tastes much nicer than the label looks. ($23/bottle at TW).

(https://beerapprentice.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/dscn31982.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2015, 03:46:49 pm
on Yada's request...and of the brewers here know I can find recipe for a KBS clone
Or is it even possible with my set up

I've made a mean porter, but haven't done a stout yet


Edit...there are a bunch out there
https://byo.com/bock/item/1857-founder%E2%80%99s-brewings-breakfast-stout-clone (https://byo.com/bock/item/1857-founder%E2%80%99s-brewings-breakfast-stout-clone)

http://www.beersmith.com/forum/index.php?topic=12090.0 (http://www.beersmith.com/forum/index.php?topic=12090.0)




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this is for the KBS
http://beermasters.org/2014/02/06/kentucky-breakfast-stout-kbs-5-gal-all-grain-recipe/ (http://beermasters.org/2014/02/06/kentucky-breakfast-stout-kbs-5-gal-all-grain-recipe/)

but this last part sounds like the hard part

in secondary fermentor for 2-6 months
Founder?s claim to ferment this brew for an entire year in bourbon barrels?
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2015, 03:54:27 pm
check out HBT, there is an excellent Breakfast Stout clone.  add oak chips/cubes soaked in bourbon to that beer, you'll be damn close.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2015, 04:44:44 pm
interesting
1 gallon keg (http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/kegging/big-mouth-modular-keg)
Not quite as easy as the OneDerBrew, but pretty slick
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2015, 05:21:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 16, 2015, 03:54:27 pm
check out HBT, there is an excellent Breakfast Stout clone.  add oak chips/cubes soaked in bourbon to that beer, you'll be damn close.
funny some bloke with the same name was posting in that very thread last week
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on November 17, 2015, 04:26:08 am
That Panil Barriquee is pretty tasty. I have enjoyed a few bottles. I always go 50/50 with a friend.

Anyone else tried the blood orange gose from Anderson Valley? That shit's delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 20, 2015, 01:00:45 pm
I was reading a ratebeer reviewer's beer review of a sour by Allagash. He gave the taste a 9/10. And this is gow he described the beer. Fecal matter? Really?



Sample.pour at the brewery. Clear gold color, no head. Aroma is Brett Funk, mild oak and light fruit. The flavor is Brettanomyces forward with traces of fecal matter. Oak and the highest hint of rotten fruit. The finish as a touch of astringent oak. Texture is dry.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 20, 2015, 01:15:56 pm
speaking of brett - i had a bottle of Avery's Twenty Two, a 100% brett drie beer.  it was awesome.  very fruity, like an un-spicy saison.  very easy drinking.  i will be picking up some more this afternoon.  recommended (but don't expect funk, very little here).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on November 20, 2015, 01:27:42 pm
I think ballast pointe should steal that, and release

scatpin
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on November 20, 2015, 01:47:18 pm
(https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/11391224_826473654097726_1570415132475073138_n.jpg?oh=5bd03ac14fd55bb3833c6540b17cb34b&oe=56CB3489&__gda__=1455223797_2d4a39f796716823eb864ba3ad4ccd8a)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on November 20, 2015, 01:47:50 pm
(http://beer.stupidhumans.org/image/stupidhumans/1101/beer-boobs-beer-holder-mamboobs-rerun-stupid-human-1295394818.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 20, 2015, 01:58:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 20, 2015, 01:00:45 pm
I was reading a ratebeer reviewer's beer review of a sour by Allagash. He gave the taste a 9/10. And this is gow he described the beer. Fecal matter? Really?



Sample.pour at the brewery. Clear gold color, no head. Aroma is Brett Funk, mild oak and light fruit. The flavor is Brettanomyces forward with traces of fecal matter. Oak and the highest hint of rotten fruit. The finish as a touch of astringent oak. Texture is dry.

I recently had a Wicked Weed beer that had notes of horse dung in it, serizly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 20, 2015, 02:21:33 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on November 20, 2015, 01:47:50 pm
(http://beer.stupidhumans.org/image/stupidhumans/1101/beer-boobs-beer-holder-mamboobs-rerun-stupid-human-1295394818.jpg)
^^ Fat privilege
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 20, 2015, 04:06:01 pm
this years BCBS batch gets the DDB stamp of approval: http://dontdrinkbeer.com/2015/11/19/bcbs-2015-happy-black-thursday-how-much-more-black-could-this-be-the-answer-is-none/

go wild, kids
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 20, 2015, 04:35:31 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 20, 2015, 04:06:01 pm
this years BCBS batch gets the DDB stamp of approval: http://dontdrinkbeer.com/2015/11/19/bcbs-2015-happy-black-thursday-how-much-more-black-could-this-be-the-answer-is-none/

go wild, kids

i soooooooooooo love dontdrinkbeer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB_vpBD413s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zppa1Q7LxnE

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 20, 2015, 07:12:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 20, 2015, 04:35:31 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 20, 2015, 04:06:01 pm
this years BCBS batch gets the DDB stamp of approval: http://dontdrinkbeer.com/2015/11/19/bcbs-2015-happy-black-thursday-how-much-more-black-could-this-be-the-answer-is-none/

go wild, kids

i soooooooooooo love dontdrinkbeer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB_vpBD413s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zppa1Q7LxnE

ah, classic. i love how perfect of a platform youtube is for DDB with youtube comments.

this is one of my favorite gems of his: http://dontdrinkbeer.com/2015/02/03/propolisbrewing-grewit-listen-i-know-everyone-is-doing-barrel-aged-gruit-reviews-but-i-need-these-clickbucks/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2015, 06:11:39 pm
the crowler (http://obcrowler.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 12:06:02 am
Very randomly tonight, dropped my car off at the shop on 4 mile run @ nearly 8 PM in S ALR and had the rare delight to stumble upon Mike Katrivanos, the brew master of the not yet opened New District Brewing Company  (https://www.facebook.com/newdistrictbrewing/)as he was putting on finishing touches on the new place. I knew it was opening, so though I'd stop by and just look into the window.  To my luck he took a little time out of his work on the new place to pour me a few and give me a tour.
Pretty small operation, just 15 barrel batches.  There will be no food, but 14 taps and the plan is to have something new on tap every week. Nice industrial inside and the possibility of a nice outside patio (not built yet.
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12191415_900077146734901_8245091473015962423_n.png?oh=0083eec13bcf3d16f03636e6da6b655b&oe=56F4AF5D)
Also giving it a little indie music cred...is on the same lot as inner ear studio!


They were fermenting a pumpkin spice and had a Pilsner in the bright tank.  He had a few barrels of stuff also aging.  To my unexpected delight gave me two generous glasses of beer as well.
 The 1-0 binary beer was really satisfying brown ale with a high ABV punch and the 1821 with it's Greek mountain tea was also a very enjoying pour and could see drinking many of those on a sunny afternoon.

Discussing the benefits of nitro in the Co2 pour was more fascinating to me. Sounds like they are taking production and presentation very serious

 Looking forward to the doors opening in late December.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on November 24, 2015, 07:57:56 am
7 Locks Brewing Company opens this Wednesday in the Pike and Rose area. Looking forward to that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 24, 2015, 09:58:57 am
Space is most likely having a coronary due to the per ounce cost of Bourbon County vs. previous years... but oh it's so good. Sorry fart sound for fueling the machine.

(http://s30.postimg.org/c3emw6h81/20151123_200955.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 10:51:17 am
Quote from: Yada on November 24, 2015, 09:58:57 am
fart sound .... fueling the machine.
I thought beans were the key there
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 24, 2015, 12:11:13 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 12:06:02 am
Pretty small operation, just 15 barrel batches. 

15 barrels is on the average-to-bigger side for a new brewery.  many start with a 7 or 10 barrel system.  both 3 Stars and DC Brau have 15 barrel brew houses.

Quote from: medeski7 on November 24, 2015, 07:57:56 am
7 Locks Brewing Company opens this Wednesday in the Pike and Rose area. Looking forward to that.

i was unaware of this, so thanks for the heads up!

after reviewing their website (http://www.7locksbrewing.com/beers/) i'm a little less excited... their offerings look very don't-rock-the-boat middle of the road.  they're quick to point out that their pale ale is "not super hoppy".  but good for them for going after the masses, certainly the safer bet.  maybe once they get settled in they'll start doing one-offs, seasonals, etc.  article (http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/2015/7-Locks-Brewing-to-Open-Wednesday-in-Rockville/).

other upcoming MoCo breweries:
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 12:34:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 24, 2015, 12:11:13 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 12:06:02 am
Pretty small operation, just 15 barrel batches. 

15 barrels is on the average-to-bigger side for a new brewery.  many start with a 7 or 10 barrel system.  both 3 Stars and DC Brau have 15 barrel brew houses.

I may be off on this size, that is what I thought he said
the fermenter was about this size (not a photo from brewery)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--vUFyKzhFLc/UdA3OVxxAHI/AAAAAAAAU5c/UHxPaN5nrss/s691/wiley-roots-01.jpg)

So maybe it was 7-10 barrel
Pretty small set up

they are pretty bare bones with a lot of used and homemade equipment.
They did nearly all the work themselves including running gas lines, electric and all the plumbing
they have no investors, so they are not beholden to some Private Equity firm for making any decisions


but the two beers I had were good, nothing like "this is the best beer I ever had" but unique and very drinkable

The market is getting soo flooded, not sure how 1/2 of these places are going to make it a year or two
NDBC has a some what good location and I imagine their rent is a fraction compared to the restaurants just around the corner in shirlington
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 12:38:03 pm
Best beer deal of the week:

Rodenbach Caractere Rouge

$15/ 32 oz growler fill
$30/ 64 oz growler fill

Whole Foods Fair Lakes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 24, 2015, 12:39:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 24, 2015, 09:58:57 am
Space is most likely having a coronary due to the per ounce cost of Bourbon County vs. previous years... but oh it's so good. Sorry fart sound for fueling the machine.

no toasts for you!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 24, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
Quote from: quote got fucked up but its sidehatch

The market is getting soo flooded, not sure how 1/2 of these places are going to make it a year or two
NDBC has a some what good location and I imagine their rent is a fraction compared to the restaurants just around the corner in shirlington

http://beermapping.com/maps/citymaps.php?m=seattle#

none of these places are struggling. DC beer market is the exact opposite of flooded. there's so much more room for growth, but i imagine high rent/high startup costs scare people away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 24, 2015, 02:35:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 12:38:03 pm
Best beer deal of the week:

Rodenbach Caractere Rouge

$15/ 32 oz growler fill
$30/ 64 oz growler fill

Whole Foods Fair Lakes

Where is Fair Lakes?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 24, 2015, 02:50:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 24, 2015, 02:35:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 12:38:03 pm
Best beer deal of the week:

Rodenbach Caractere Rouge

$15/ 32 oz growler fill
$30/ 64 oz growler fill

Whole Foods Fair Lakes

Where is Fair Lakes?

west virginia
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 03:04:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 24, 2015, 02:35:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 12:38:03 pm
Best beer deal of the week:

Rodenbach Caractere Rouge

$15/ 32 oz growler fill
$30/ 64 oz growler fill

Whole Foods Fair Lakes

Where is Fair Lakes?

Fairfax. One of the largest Whole Foods on the East Coast.

https://www.facebook.com/Whole-Foods-Beer-Market-193664611498/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 03:35:56 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 02:50:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 24, 2015, 02:35:12 pm

Where is Fair Lakes?

west virginia
might as well f'n be
probably can see Walkie from there if you get up on your tippy toes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 03:46:55 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 03:35:56 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 02:50:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 24, 2015, 02:35:12 pm

Where is Fair Lakes?

west virginia
might as well f'n be
probably can see Walkie from there if you get up on your tippy toes

Geesh, only a 20 min drive from my house.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 03:51:43 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
Quote from: quote got fucked up but its sidehatch

The market is getting soo flooded, not sure how 1/2 of these places are going to make it a year or two
NDBC has a some what good location and I imagine their rent is a fraction compared to the restaurants just around the corner in shirlington

http://beermapping.com/maps/citymaps.php?m=seattle#

none of these places are struggling. DC beer market is the exact opposite of flooded. there's so much more room for growth, but i imagine high rent/high startup costs scare people away.

well you can't compare it to Seattle, that's just not fair
what suck on that map for dc....lots of Gordon Biersch and Sweetwater
but that map is pretty cool
If 100 mile circle around DC, there are about 75 Breweries! (not brewpubs...there are about 200 of those)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 03:52:29 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 03:46:55 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 03:35:56 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 02:50:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 24, 2015, 02:35:12 pm

Where is Fair Lakes?

west virginia
might as well f'n be
probably can see Walkie from there if you get up on your tippy toes

Geesh, only a 20 min drive from my house.
which direction...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 24, 2015, 04:45:29 pm
Thats like, almost to the luber.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 24, 2015, 04:48:00 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 03:51:43 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
Quote from: quote got fucked up but its sidehatch

The market is getting soo flooded, not sure how 1/2 of these places are going to make it a year or two
NDBC has a some what good location and I imagine their rent is a fraction compared to the restaurants just around the corner in shirlington

http://beermapping.com/maps/citymaps.php?m=seattle#

none of these places are struggling. DC beer market is the exact opposite of flooded. there's so much more room for growth, but i imagine high rent/high startup costs scare people away.

well you can't compare it to Seattle, that's just not fair
what suck on that map for dc....lots of Gordon Biersch and Sweetwater
but that map is pretty cool
If 100 mile circle around DC, there are about 75 Breweries! (not brewpubs...there are about 200 of those)


well, city vs. city, it's about 40 vs 80. meaning you've got at least 40 more breweries which can open before you start to worry about saturation :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 05:00:45 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 04:48:00 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 03:51:43 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
Quote from: quote got fucked up but its sidehatch

The market is getting soo flooded, not sure how 1/2 of these places are going to make it a year or two
NDBC has a some what good location and I imagine their rent is a fraction compared to the restaurants just around the corner in shirlington

http://beermapping.com/maps/citymaps.php?m=seattle#

none of these places are struggling. DC beer market is the exact opposite of flooded. there's so much more room for growth, but i imagine high rent/high startup costs scare people away.

well you can't compare it to Seattle, that's just not fair
what suck on that map for dc....lots of Gordon Biersch and Sweetwater
but that map is pretty cool
If 100 mile circle around DC, there are about 75 Breweries! (not brewpubs...there are about 200 of those)


well, city vs. city, it's about 40 vs 80. meaning you've got at least 40 more breweries which can open before you start to worry about saturation :)


Aren't there many more white, middle class bearded beerdos in Seattle than in DC? DC has many more minorities and pussy wine drinkers, hence less craft beer fans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 05:01:59 pm
Quote from: jaded on November 24, 2015, 04:45:29 pm
Thats like, almost to the luber.

No closer to the Lube than to Iota.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on November 24, 2015, 05:03:09 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 12:06:02 am
Pretty small operation, just 15 barrel batches.  There will be no food, but 14 taps and the plan is to have something new on tap every week. Nice industrial inside and the possibility of a nice outside patio (not built yet.

I thought it was illegal in Virginia to run a bar - i.e., an establishment that doesn't meet the required food/alcohol ratio.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 05:06:50 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 04:48:00 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 03:51:43 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
Quote from: quote got fucked up but its sidehatch

The market is getting soo flooded, not sure how 1/2 of these places are going to make it a year or two
NDBC has a some what good location and I imagine their rent is a fraction compared to the restaurants just around the corner in shirlington

http://beermapping.com/maps/citymaps.php?m=seattle#

none of these places are struggling. DC beer market is the exact opposite of flooded. there's so much more room for growth, but i imagine high rent/high startup costs scare people away.

well you can't compare it to Seattle, that's just not fair
what suck on that map for dc....lots of Gordon Biersch and Sweetwater
but that map is pretty cool
If 100 mile circle around DC, there are about 75 Breweries! (not brewpubs...there are about 200 of those)


well, city vs. city, it's about 40 vs 80. meaning you've got at least 40 more breweries which can open before you start to worry about saturation :)

well I think the folks in Seattle have a more cultured pallet when it comes to craft beer
so I don't think it's the same
city like that could handle 3 times as much as DC

DC if you don't have bud light on tap....you miss out on 80% of the local residents
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 05:08:14 pm
just noticed this lil jem too




Quote
from: quote got fucked up but its sidehatch
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 05:17:21 pm
Quote from: ggw on November 24, 2015, 05:03:09 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 12:06:02 am
Pretty small operation, just 15 barrel batches.  There will be no food, but 14 taps and the plan is to have something new on tap every week. Nice industrial inside and the possibility of a nice outside patio (not built yet.

I thought it was illegal in Virginia to run a bar - i.e., an establishment that doesn't meet the required food/alcohol ratio.

Apparently not the case as I've been to at least a half dozen VA breweries with tasting rooms and no food, save for an occasional food truck. We usually byo on the food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 24, 2015, 05:23:19 pm
Currently drinking a Fat Tire at 30,000 feet. What a god awful beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 05:40:22 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 05:17:21 pm
Quote from: ggw on November 24, 2015, 05:03:09 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 12:06:02 am
Pretty small operation, just 15 barrel batches.  There will be no food, but 14 taps and the plan is to have something new on tap every week. Nice industrial inside and the possibility of a nice outside patio (not built yet.

I thought it was illegal in Virginia to run a bar - i.e., an establishment that doesn't meet the required food/alcohol ratio.

Apparently not the case as I've been to at least a half dozen VA breweries with tasting rooms and no food, save for an occasional food truck. We usually byo on the food.
that used to be the case...possibly since they make the beer there it is exempt?
that was such a bullsh!t law, there was/is something like that in dc too
I remember the Raven had to sell food because of that...but I think they only had potato chips
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 05:58:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 24, 2015, 05:23:19 pm
Currently drinking a Fat Tire at 30,000 feet. What a god awful beer.

I had my first taste of one in summer of 2014 at the brewery tour. Definitely the worst beer on their tour but I wouldn't say god awful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 24, 2015, 07:05:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 05:58:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 24, 2015, 05:23:19 pm
Currently drinking a Fat Tire at 30,000 feet. What a god awful beer.

I had my first taste of one in summer of 2014 at the brewery tour. Definitely the worst beer on their tour but I wouldn't say god awful.

Nothing like a watery, amber ale... At least they're free, but I should've went with Bud Light.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 24, 2015, 08:07:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 24, 2015, 05:00:45 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 04:48:00 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 03:51:43 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
Quote from: quote got fucked up but its sidehatch

The market is getting soo flooded, not sure how 1/2 of these places are going to make it a year or two
NDBC has a some what good location and I imagine their rent is a fraction compared to the restaurants just around the corner in shirlington

http://beermapping.com/maps/citymaps.php?m=seattle#

none of these places are struggling. DC beer market is the exact opposite of flooded. there's so much more room for growth, but i imagine high rent/high startup costs scare people away.

well you can't compare it to Seattle, that's just not fair
what suck on that map for dc....lots of Gordon Biersch and Sweetwater
but that map is pretty cool
If 100 mile circle around DC, there are about 75 Breweries! (not brewpubs...there are about 200 of those)


well, city vs. city, it's about 40 vs 80. meaning you've got at least 40 more breweries which can open before you start to worry about saturation :)


Aren't there many more white, middle class bearded beerdos in Seattle than in DC? DC has many more minorities and pussy wine drinkers, hence less craft beer fans.

you're definitely right about there being more of this very demographic, but most of these beerdos are too stoned to realize or care about the latest and greatest beers or breweries. i'd bet that most of those people have a stronger opinion about what pot chocolate is the best as opposed to what IPA is.

is that really still the case in DC? i hoped the culture would have shifted by now, especially since price wise, a bud light and a craft beer aren't much different.  plus, dc brau is great and i've heard nothing but good things about right proper.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 08:17:38 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 08:07:59 pm
what pot chocolate is the best

well...can you ask, I'd like to know :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 24, 2015, 08:21:58 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 08:17:38 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 08:07:59 pm
what pot chocolate is the best

well...can you ask, I'd like to know :)

goodship chocolate coffee dark is delicious and super potent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 24, 2015, 08:30:39 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 05:06:50 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 04:48:00 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 03:51:43 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
Quote from: quote got fucked up but its sidehatch

The market is getting soo flooded, not sure how 1/2 of these places are going to make it a year or two
NDBC has a some what good location and I imagine their rent is a fraction compared to the restaurants just around the corner in shirlington

http://beermapping.com/maps/citymaps.php?m=seattle#

none of these places are struggling. DC beer market is the exact opposite of flooded. there's so much more room for growth, but i imagine high rent/high startup costs scare people away.

well you can't compare it to Seattle, that's just not fair
what suck on that map for dc....lots of Gordon Biersch and Sweetwater
but that map is pretty cool
If 100 mile circle around DC, there are about 75 Breweries! (not brewpubs...there are about 200 of those)


well, city vs. city, it's about 40 vs 80. meaning you've got at least 40 more breweries which can open before you start to worry about saturation :)

well I think the folks in Seattle have a more cultured pallet when it comes to craft beer
so I don't think it's the same
city like that could handle 3 times as much as DC

DC if you don't have bud light on tap....you miss out on 80% of the local residents

tasting anything here does seem to carry less of a stigma, that's for sure. judgement gets thrown around way too much by DC folks. it's fun to taste beer/wine/coffee/etc and talk about it. being pretentious about it is one thing, but even that's relative.

 DC has great distribution and friendly laws that create some incredible events, so maybe you're right, maybe it is approaching saturation, just a different kind. personally, i think DC could handle way more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2015, 11:13:10 pm
Quote from: fart sound on November 24, 2015, 08:30:39 pm
i think DC could handle way more.
I don't disagree, I think it's got a little way to go to 'peak'. 

But honestly if I were investor right now in a brewery that hadn't actually opened yet, I'd probably be feeling a little cautious about that investment.  A bunch of people (just like the ups/downs of the restaurant gig in general)are going to lose a LOT of money in the next few years.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on November 27, 2015, 12:21:02 pm
Got myself a few bottles of Bourbon County Stout. Total Wine Chantilly had a line of 40-50 people to get in. Whole Foods didn't have any yet but I did enjoy a 5oz pour of Rodenbach Caractere Rouge and Millstone Sour Kriek Cider. Both were wonderful. Wegman's in Fairfax had it behind the counter.

That's my Black Friday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 27, 2015, 01:49:20 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on November 27, 2015, 12:21:02 pm
Got myself a few bottles of Bourbon County Stout. Total Wine Chantilly had a line of 40-50 people to get in. Whole Foods didn't have any yet but I did enjoy a 5oz pour of Rodenbach Caractere Rouge and Millstone Sour Kriek Cider. Both were wonderful. Wegman's in Fairfax had it behind the counter.

That's my Black Friday.

Did they have Coffee at Wegman's or just the Regular?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on November 27, 2015, 07:34:18 pm
Hey, what do you beer dorks think about the Smuttynose line? I've long liked the Brown Dog    ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ          ale and recently had another one that I loved but can't remember the name of. And right now I'm drinking a Shoals Pale Ale and I like it a lot, smooth and deep
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 27, 2015, 07:49:58 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on November 27, 2015, 07:34:18 pm
Hey, what do you beer dorks think about the Smuttynose line? I've long liked the Brown Dog    ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ          ale and recently had another one that I loved but can't remember the name of. And right now I'm drinking a Shoals Pale Ale and I like it a lot, smooth and deep

Every beer I've had from the has been at least decent. Their Baltic Porter and Robust Porter are both excellent.

I did their tour in Summer 2014. Boring tour, but the beer samples were free. They put in a restaurant after that. Guess it's a good stop if you're ever driving from Boston to Maine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on November 27, 2015, 08:02:03 pm
Aww, relaxer, made a little doggie face. Omg, it's so cute. Awwww. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 27, 2015, 11:33:15 pm
So thinking going 2.5-3 Gallon batches
wanted a little advice on what I'll need to keep with all-grain and still stay small (sq ft wise)
all recipes can just scale down

5 Gallon pot 
3 Gallon Carboy
Longer racking cane

Do I need to get the 5 Gallon igloo mash tun (http://www.homebrewing.org/product.asp?itemid=1005&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&gclid=CNzPvNOTsskCFVYYHwoda80OXA)

As right now I fit the 1 gal batches of grain in this 10" Double Mesh Strainer and just pour the 170 water through twice(but it's kind of a pain)
but won't be able to do that with 3 x the grain
so unless I do extract or BIAB... I need to get a Mash Tun?



Also should the 5 gallon pot have a spigot?
Is that worth it?



I really never make it to a secondary fermenter.
Other than making it clearer, am I missing a whole lot in the final product?

Just came across the Party Pig (http://shop.greatfermentations.com/product/party-pig-with-tray-strap-and-2-pressure-pouches/party-pig)
Seems like a nice way to age and also have a brew or two in the fridge with out the need of a co2 tank and tap in a  mini fridge
Gotta spend $5 each time for the pressure bag, but save hour or so on the bottling end.




Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on November 28, 2015, 04:41:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 27, 2015, 01:49:20 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on November 27, 2015, 12:21:02 pm
Got myself a few bottles of Bourbon County Stout. Total Wine Chantilly had a line of 40-50 people to get in. Whole Foods didn't have any yet but I did enjoy a 5oz pour of Rodenbach Caractere Rouge and Millstone Sour Kriek Cider. Both were wonderful. Wegman's in Fairfax had it behind the counter.

That's my Black Friday.

Did they have Coffee at Wegman's or just the Regular?

Just regular. Total Wine Chantilly got the coffee one but only 2 cases and it went lightning fast. I got a barleywine though. Sold out right after I got mine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 28, 2015, 11:25:23 am
Quote from: Unsanity on November 28, 2015, 04:41:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 27, 2015, 01:49:20 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on November 27, 2015, 12:21:02 pm
Got myself a few bottles of Bourbon County Stout. Total Wine Chantilly had a line of 40-50 people to get in. Whole Foods didn't have any yet but I did enjoy a 5oz pour of Rodenbach Caractere Rouge and Millstone Sour Kriek Cider. Both were wonderful. Wegman's in Fairfax had it behind the counter.

That's my Black Friday.

Did they have Coffee at Wegman's or just the Regular?

Just regular. Total Wine Chantilly got the coffee one but only 2 cases and it went lightning fast. I got a barleywine though. Sold out right after I got mine.

My wants were limited to scoring a couple of bottles of Coffee. I went to three Total Wines, all within 20 minutes of each other, starting at the time they simulataneously opened. After faling to get a single Coffee, I grabbed a single Barleywine at the third store. That's it for me.

Did have a draft pour of Coffee 15 at Jack Rose's Wed night round 8:30. The Vanilla and Regal Rye had both kicked by that point.

So AB-Inbev got $22 from me this year for the bottle and the draft. That's a small fraction of what i pay for beer by independent breweries, so I don't feel too bad!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 28, 2015, 05:08:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 28, 2015, 11:25:23 am
I went to three Total Wines, all within 20 minutes of each other, starting at the time they simulataneously opened. After faling to get a single Coffee, I grabbed a single Barleywine at the third store. That's it for me.

So AB-Inbev got $22 from me this year for the bottle and the draft.
they got more than $22 from you if they had you running all round town with a disappointed look on your face
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on November 29, 2015, 09:20:05 pm
Man, that BC stout is damn good this year. I had half a bottle on its own then half with a few scoops of vanilla ice cream. Awesome.

Anyone go to that thing at Chruchkey? I would have loved to go if I wasn't at work. I have never had the Regal Rye or Vanilla or an aged previous year. I bet that place was packed...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2015, 09:57:29 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on November 29, 2015, 09:20:05 pm
Man, that BC stout is damn good this year. I had half a bottle on its own then half with a few scoops of vanilla ice cream. Awesome.

Anyone go to that thing at Chruchkey? I would have loved to go if I wasn't at work. I have never had the Regal Rye or Vanilla or an aged previous year. I bet that place was packed...

First time they've made the Regal Rye...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2015, 11:59:06 am
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 27, 2015, 11:33:15 pm
Just came across the Party Pig (http://shop.greatfermentations.com/product/party-pig-with-tray-strap-and-2-pressure-pouches/party-pig)
Seems like a nice way to age and also have a brew or two in the fridge with out the need of a co2 tank and tap in a  mini fridge
Gotta spend $5 each time for the pressure bag, but save hour or so on the bottling end.

Well apparently these don't work that great...talked to the guy at Mylhbs and he said suck and he stopped selling them as you needed that $5 pressure bag and sometimes those were flakey


What about these 2.5 Gallon Mini Draft System from Midwest (http://www.midwestsupplies.com/2-5-gallon-mini-draft-system-new-keg.html)
I see people on HBT seem to like them

Although $170 is a little more than I want to spend right now to just avoid bottling
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2015, 12:05:53 pm
were there is a will there is a way (http://the-daily.buzz/cans-of-beer-disguised/?utm_content=inf_10_1163_2&tse_id=INF_6eae2b39fe714e1e8a2bb8203fd40ab0&ts_pid=904)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2015, 03:35:24 pm
Hey Guys, just because you're wearing your anti inbev badges with honor doesn't mean the beer ain't delicious!

Also, 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| , how is my 🍺 coming along?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 01, 2015, 04:15:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2015, 03:35:24 pm
Hey Guys, just because you're wearing your anti inbev badges with honor doesn't mean the beer ain't delicious!

what InBev beer(s) are you referring to?  GI?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2015, 04:29:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 01, 2015, 04:15:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2015, 03:35:24 pm
Hey Guys, just because you're wearing your anti inbev badges with honor doesn't mean the beer ain't delicious!

what InBev beer(s) are you referring to?  GI?

I can't tell if your sarcasm hat is currently on or not? Bourbon County in particular.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2015, 04:58:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2015, 03:35:24 pm


Also, 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| , how is my 🍺 coming along?
So just put a Imperial Stout in the fermenter Sunday...some serious yeast activity so far
should be a 8.0 ABV

should be ready for xmas
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2015, 04:59:59 pm
Sehkraft Brewing in Arlington opened this weekend...haven't gone yet, but they do have cool growlers
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12279039_1014458681948152_7218428020811085939_n.jpg?oh=6d0f4ac95b853fc6d00b3055f9486c63&oe=56D6F7E0)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2015, 05:02:03 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on December 01, 2015, 04:59:59 pm
Sehkraft Brewing in Arlington opened this weekend...haven't gone yet, but they do have cool growlers
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12279039_1014458681948152_7218428020811085939_n.jpg?oh=6d0f4ac95b853fc6d00b3055f9486c63&oe=56D6F7E0)

Nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2015, 05:15:37 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on December 01, 2015, 04:59:59 pm
Sehkraft Brewing in Arlington opened this weekend...
Apparently they are not even serving their own beer yet...5 10 barrel tanks
and it's being opened by the Westover market guys, so they know beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 03, 2015, 11:05:17 am
ok for you runners who like to drink beer (whilst running)
I've the race for you http://www.beermile.com/ (http://www.beermile.com/)
Four Beers, Four Laps

amazingly some guy (http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/252235-FloTrack-Beer-Mile-World-Championships-2015/article/37731-Lewis-Kent-Shatters-World-Record-at-Beer-Mile-World-Championships#.VmBYlTZdE68) did it in 4:47!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 03, 2015, 11:13:19 am
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on December 01, 2015, 05:15:37 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on December 01, 2015, 04:59:59 pm
Sehkraft Brewing in Arlington opened this weekend...
Apparently they are not even serving their own beer yet...5 10 barrel tanks
and it's being opened by the Westover market guys, so they know how to seriously overcharge for beer

fixed that for ya
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 03, 2015, 11:15:20 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2015, 11:13:19 am
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on December 01, 2015, 05:15:37 pm
Quote from:  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on December 01, 2015, 04:59:59 pm
Sehkraft Brewing in Arlington opened this weekend...
Apparently they are not even serving their own beer yet...5 10 barrel tanks
and it's being opened by the Westover market guys, so they know how to seriously overcharge for beer

fixed that for ya
true....pricing is a bit much there
but the draft pricing and selection has always been good
tough to be a small business in Arlington competing with Whole Foods/Total Wine
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 03, 2015, 11:24:40 am
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on December 03, 2015, 11:05:17 am
ok for you runners who like to drink beer (whilst running)
I've the race for you http://www.beermile.com/ (http://www.beermile.com/)
Four Beers, Four Laps

amazingly some guy (http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/252235-FloTrack-Beer-Mile-World-Championships-2015/article/37731-Lewis-Kent-Shatters-World-Record-at-Beer-Mile-World-Championships#.VmBYlTZdE68) did it in 4:47!

like hockey, this event is traditionally dominated by canadians ;D

i can't imagine running a mile under 5 mins, let alone chugging 4 beers in that time.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 03, 2015, 11:25:52 am
those westover guys.. i'm glad they're doing well cause its a cool place to go in the hood.... particularly when its warmer.... good beers..great vibe.. live music the kids like

but their prices leave a little to be desired at the grocery store... I don't mind their beer garden prices..

the young guy who sort of runs the place for his parents does have a bit of a "too cool for school" vibe.. I've heard this from other people .. one guy said he wanted to beat the shit out of him...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 04, 2015, 10:30:56 am
Had the pale ale from 7 Locks Brewing last night and it tasted like a watered down Yuengling. Other than the Fat Tire I had on a plane last week, one of the worst beers I've had in a long while.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 04, 2015, 10:38:23 am
Quote from: hutch on December 03, 2015, 11:25:52 am
those westover guys.. i'm glad they're doing well cause its a cool place to go in the hood.... particularly when its warmer.... good beers..great vibe.. live music the kids like

but their prices leave a little to be desired at the grocery store... I don't mind their beer garden prices..

the young guy who sort of runs the place for his parents does have a bit of a "too cool for school" vibe.. I've heard this from other people .. one guy said he wanted to beat the shit out of him...

Geez, Hutch, what kind of  tough guy crowd are you hanging with where people want to "beat the shit out of" somebody?

I've been to Westover once. The store section reminded me of what I imagine the inside of your house to look like. Small and cluttered with long forgotten bottles of IPA with faded, overpriced stickers on them. Of course, in the case of your house, substitute "record sleeves" for "bottles" and "LP" for "IPA".  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 04, 2015, 10:46:44 am
Anyone had this yet? http://www.mmmhops.com/home.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 04, 2015, 11:52:32 am
Great video, makes Shaun Hill seem pretty normal!

https://vimeo.com/146428555

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 04, 2015, 12:31:37 pm
I would like to commend Mr. Ford's braveness in this time of fear to start this thread
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 04, 2015, 12:31:54 pm
Expect big things in local beer in 2016. The year will bring long-awaited openings including Lake Anne Brew House in Reston and Red Dragon Brewery in Fredericksburg. Other breweries are expanding and celebrating anniversaries. Here?s what you need to know in the latest installment of NoVA beer news.

Lake Anne Brew House opening January 2016 in Reston


Jason Romano is a month away from turning his 20-year hobby of home brewing into a bona fide business. He and his wife, Melissa Romano, will open Lake Anne Brew House in Reston next month (11424 Washington Plaza W.). ?There?s been a lot of experimenting at home trying to decide which beers to open up with,? Melissa Romano says.

The taproom will have 10 taps, about half of which will be reserved for the brewery?s flagship beers like Reston Red, Live-Work-Play IPA and Quayside Stout. The others will pour seasonal and experimental beers. ?Jason is a traditionalist when it comes to brewing,? Melissa Romano says. ?Good quality is his prime target, having gone through the beer judge certification process; he?s very in tune to what?s right and what?s not against a style standard.?

While Jason brews the beer, Melissa has been using her design background to create an eye-catching taproom. ?We?re laying the taproom out in a mid-century modern style and really paying homage to Lake Anne and the brutalist architecture of the original plaza,? she says. She?s also incorporating work by local artists. They hope to be open by the first of the year.

Adroit Theory Brewing Company expands in Purcellville

Adroit Theory is growing and getting a makeover come January. Owner Mark Osborne shares that the Purcellville brewery is taking over the front area of their building, providing easier access for customers, additional parking and more. ?We intend on building a new tasting room bar with considerably more seating and lounge areas,? he says. The expansion also means more beer. ?This move will allow us to have up to 37 drafts, and we can separate the styles to fit the space. For instance, lower gravity beers on the front bar, and higher gravity/barrel-aged beers on the rear bar.? He adds that this spring, the brewery will launch a line of low alcohol beers, a major suds trend going into 2016.


Sehkraft Brewing Beer Garden
Sehkraft Brewing now open in Arlington

 Sehkraft Brewing, a brewpub from team behind the Westover Market, is now open in Arlington ( 925 N Garfield St., Suite A). The expansive space includes an outdoor beer garden complete with picnic tables and fire pits giving it a Munich feel. This is appropriate given Sehkraft is a German word that loosely translates to ?vision.? The indoor brewpub is large and includes a retail market where customers can fill up growlers of beer and bring home fresh cuts of meat from a butcher. Of Sehkraft?s 40 taps, 10 will be dedicated to pouring the brewpub?s five beers made on-site by head brewer John Peters. Much like Westover Market, the beer lineup could change daily, and Peters plans to work in some collaborations with other small local breweries. The food menu includes an arsenal of local cheese, burgers, sandwiches and salads. Visit Tuesday through Sunday from 11 a.m. to close and Mondays from 4 p.m. to close. They aim to launch weekend brunch in a couple weeks.

Port City Brewing Company marks five years

February marks Port City Brewing Company?s fifth anniversary. The Alexandria-based company and 2015 Great American Beer Festival ?Small Brewery of the Year? winner will mark the occasion with an anniversary beer called Colossal 5. It will be a British-style old ale brewed with heritage malts and aged at least partially in oak. Marketing and events manager Chris Van Orden says to expect ?dark mahogany with ruby highlights, with toffee and dried fruit flavor and enough hops to balance the rich, complex grain bill.? He continues, ?This beer style was designed for cellaring, so Colossal 5 will be the first of Port City?s anniversary beers to be put into bottles, enabling customers to age it over a period of months or years.? Stay tuned for updates from the brewery on social media to learn about anniversary events, including the Colossal 5 release party.


Red Dragon Brewery rolls on in Fredericksburg

Downtown Fredericksburg will soon get a dose of Wales when Red Dragon Brewery opens in June 2016. ?The red dragon is the symbol of Wales and is reflected on their national flag,? says co-founder and brewer Thomas Evans. ?We represent our ancestry and the pride we have in all our Celtic backgrounds, and the pub décor will reflect and embrace that as well.? The project from Evans and his partner, Daniel Baker, has been almost five years in the making. The zoning permits were approved in November, and the team continues to roll toward opening at 1419 Princess Anne St. Beer highlights will include a stout, a Belgium blonde, a peat-smoked porter aged in bourbon barrels and a red ale call Road Rash Red created for the local cycling team, Bike Works Racing. ?I specialize in English-style ales, so we will have plenty of those to include a bitter, old ale and some wonderful pale ales,? Evans says. The taproom will have an English pub feel and should fit 75-100 seats if all goes according to plan
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 04, 2015, 12:39:46 pm
Just think if all of these local beers actually put out KILLER beer, every single one of them and they priced them accordingly to James Ford's liking, every major city could essentially drive out inbev!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 04, 2015, 02:13:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 04, 2015, 10:30:56 am
Had the pale ale from 7 Locks Brewing last night and it tasted like a watered down Yuengling. Other than the Fat Tire I had on a plane last week, one of the worst beers I've had in a long while.

not too surprising.  some homebrewers i know went there last night, and said the beers were clean, well brewed... and boring.  as i mentioned previously (http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=19630.msg418717#msg418717), 7 Locks is not going after the beer nerd.

Quote from: Yada on December 04, 2015, 12:39:46 pm
Just think if all of these local beers actually put out KILLER beer, every single one of them and they priced them accordingly to James Ford's liking, every major city could essentially drive out inbev!!!

"killer beer" is subjective.  the brett-spiked bourbon-barrel aged belgian hop bombs that beer nerds crave will scare away the majority of beer drinkers.  the stuff that the majority of beer drinkers will like will be boring for the nerds.  and BMC will never disappear, some folks genuinely like the stuff.  it's a much smaller proportion of the population then what currently drinks it, but some people genuinely want low-taste & low-cost lager.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 04, 2015, 02:57:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 04, 2015, 02:13:24 pm
most people genuinely want low-taste & low-cost lager.
FTFY
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 04, 2015, 03:06:27 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on December 04, 2015, 02:57:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 04, 2015, 02:13:24 pm
most people genuinely want low-taste & low-cost lager.
FTFY

Then why not make a "killer" low taste/low cost lager? I'll be the first to admit I like shitty beer too, as long as it's shitty beer that's supposed to taste shitty; Budweiser, high life, rolling rock, etc... What's terrible is when people make beer that's supposed to taste good (7 locks) and it tastes worse than the previous mentioned beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 04, 2015, 03:07:23 pm
Killer low taste is like one of those jumbo shrimp things, no?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 04, 2015, 05:26:07 pm
http://draftmag.com/top-25-beers-of-2015/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on December 05, 2015, 08:55:27 am
This year's bourbon county is quite good. I drank one and am cellaring another. I'd love to get more but it seems to be sold out everywhere.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on December 05, 2015, 01:49:09 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on December 05, 2015, 08:55:27 am
This year's bourbon county is quite good. I drank one and am cellaring another. I'd love to get more but it seems to be sold out everywhere.

Theres a lot of it at Rodmans, $15 each though
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on December 05, 2015, 03:31:56 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on December 05, 2015, 01:49:09 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on December 05, 2015, 08:55:27 am
This year's bourbon county is quite good. I drank one and am cellaring another. I'd love to get more but it seems to be sold out everywhere.

Theres a lot of it at Rodmans, $15 each though

Any idea if they have the coffee or the other varieties?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on December 05, 2015, 03:33:30 pm
I feel pretty beer special.  in the last week, I have had a growler of founders harvest, founders backwoods b, got to try the dfh higher math on tap, got bottles of bourbon county for the first time ever.  got to try it on tap as well.  

now, I have access to the following drafts for my next growler:

goose island  bourbon county
founders  harvest ale
founders  backwoods bastard
devils backbone  pumpkin hunter
dfh  higher math
ballast pointe  habanero sculpin
cider works   malice
deshutes   jubelale
evil twin  moltov cocktail simcoe
hardywood  gingerbread stout
ballast pointe   calm before the storm
troegs  mad elf
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on December 06, 2015, 07:20:52 am
Quote from: medeski7 on December 05, 2015, 03:31:56 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on December 05, 2015, 01:49:09 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on December 05, 2015, 08:55:27 am
This year's bourbon county is quite good. I drank one and am cellaring another. I'd love to get more but it seems to be sold out everywhere.

Theres a lot of it at Rodmans, $15 each though

Any idea if they have the coffee or the other varieties?

No variants, they have stone xocoveza too, really liking that beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 07, 2015, 10:54:06 am
We are so excited to announce a very special partnership between Tired Hands Brewing Company and our very own Neighborhood Restaurant Group in Washington, DC. Beginning as early as December 5th, we will be rolling out the outstanding ales and lagers of Tired Hands on draft exclusively at our DC locations, including Birch & Barley/ ChurchKey, GBD, The Partisan, Red Apron - Union Market and Iron Gate; upon opening, The Sovereign will also feature a number of drafts from Tired Hands!

 Our friends Jean Broillet and his wife Julie Foster founded Tired
 Hands Brewing Company in 2011, crafting small batches of consistently exceptional ales out of their brewpub and cafe in Ardmore, PA. Just recently, they expanded to open Fermentaria, a production brewery and restaurant located in an old trolley-repair shop two blocks from the original brewpub. With this expansion, Tired Hands has increased their brewing capacity from 1500 to 5000 barrels right away, with an additional 5000 barrels of production on the horizon.

 This increased capacity also means that DC will finally get to taste a range of Tired Hands on tap exclusively through our 5 (and soon to be 6) DC bars and restaurants!

 We are proud to be showcasing the following 6 Tired Hands brews on draft throughout December, beginning this weekend. Please follow the Twitter and Facebook feeds of each our our locations, as well as checking up on their online draft lists, to find out who is pouring what, and when!

 The Tired Hands December DC Draft List!
 Tired Hands HopHands
 Tired Hands SaisonHands
 Tired Hands Trendler
 Tired Hands Pineal
 Tired Hands Shambolic
 Tired Hands Citra/ Citrus Saison
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 09, 2015, 05:39:43 pm
Ballast Point is the beer of Top Chef this year... movin' on up!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 09, 2015, 06:08:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 09, 2015, 05:39:43 pm
Ballast Point is the beer of Top Chef this year... movin' on up!

I wonder if that deal was done before or after they were bought by Constellation Brands...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 10, 2015, 12:08:11 pm
here's hoping GGW gets one of these and brings it to the next bottle trade

This Is the World?s Most Expensive Beer (http://-http://www.foodandwine.com/fwx/drink/world-s-most-expensive-beer?xid=NL_FWx121015WorldsMostExpensiveBeer)

(http://www.foodandwine.com/fwx/sites/default/files/fwx-worlds-most-expensive-beer.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 10, 2015, 12:11:02 pm
What's the shelf life for a gose?  the anderson valley blood orange, in particular?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 10, 2015, 12:13:15 pm
Quote from: Bagley on December 10, 2015, 12:11:02 pm
What's the shelf life for a gose?  the anderson valley blood orange, in particular?

Probably six months... I don't think it will be awful if it sits a bit longer, but I know the Victory and Westbrook Gose suggest six months.

I just drank a victory about a week ago that said drink by October and it still tasted delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 10, 2015, 12:58:07 pm
gose in a can should last a long time.  little to no oxidation with the can and low pH of the beer will protect it from infection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 10, 2015, 12:59:06 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on December 10, 2015, 12:08:11 pm
here's hoping GGW gets one of these and brings it to the next bottle trade

This Is the World?s Most Expensive Beer (http://http://www.foodandwine.com/fwx/drink/world-s-most-expensive-beer?xid=NL_FWx121015WorldsMostExpensiveBeer)

there is an error in the url.  this link should work: http://www.foodandwine.com/fwx/drink/world-s-most-expensive-beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 10, 2015, 02:54:04 pm
Can someone please explain to me the appeal of the overpriced three liter bottle of beer?

I mean you can get five 650ml bottles of Stone Double Bastard for under $50, or you can get a three liter bottle (less total beer) of the same beer for $100.

Heck, you could five Stone Box of Bastards, which would give you 20 650ml bottles of beer, including five Double Bastard bombers, for just slightly over $100.



I suppose if holding the big bottle makes you look as cool as this guy, there's your answer.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/3/2522/4005816109_d7b865ed7e.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 10, 2015, 03:13:25 pm
Thought of Julian yesterday in Total Wine and saw they were selling the GWAR Oderus Ale is a American Pale Ale

BA gives it an 88!


I'm surprised that this beer hasn't received a bit more acclaim. usually one-offs are mediocre despite the pedigree.

L - A beautiful straw color, this beer looks like a pal ale should

S- a little sour and a little funky, grass notes and a bit of citrus abound.

T- a wonderful dank grass, with citrus and a hint of pine. slight hints of tropical fruit and an ever so slightly minty aftertaste.

F- a smooth and pleasing mouth-feel, very well executed.

O- While this beer might not be a powerhouse, the sweet yet subtle hops, and the light tropical tastes make this an amazing beer. It works perfectly as a compliment to spicy food, for instance a Calinete grilled cheese from Mr. C's food truck at the brewery, or a nice pot of chili. Additionally, I can't think of a beer I would rather have while sitting at the beach reading, or casting a line of a pier.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 10, 2015, 03:16:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on December 10, 2015, 03:13:25 pm
Thought of Julian yesterday in Total Wine and saw they were selling the GWAR Oderus Ale is a American Pale Ale
I'm really going to need a TRIGGER WARNING for my PTSD before you post stuff like that. . .
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 10, 2015, 03:30:20 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on December 10, 2015, 03:16:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on December 10, 2015, 03:13:25 pm
Thought of Julian yesterday in Total Wine and saw they were selling the GWAR Oderus Ale is a American Pale Ale
I'm really going to need a TRIGGER WARNING for my PTSD before you post stuff like that. . .

Sorry man, but I'd love to see your review

Look -
Smell -
Taste-
Feel -
Overall-
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 10, 2015, 03:31:37 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on December 10, 2015, 03:30:20 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on December 10, 2015, 03:16:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on December 10, 2015, 03:13:25 pm
Thought of Julian yesterday in Total Wine and saw they were selling the GWAR Oderus Ale is a American Pale Ale
I'm really going to need a TRIGGER WARNING for my PTSD before you post stuff like that. . .

Sorry man, but I'd love to see your review

Look -
Smell -
Taste-
Feel -
Overall-
My review was in video form and it is still there on the Instagram page. "Bad, even by beer standards."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 10, 2015, 03:39:34 pm
Look - Like that fecund swimming hole with green drossy vileness and fake blood intermingling.

Smell - Actually not that offensive in this regard.

Taste- Like a normal beer had soured like milk.

Feel - Like swallowing fake blood.

Overall- "Bad, even by beer standards."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 10, 2015, 03:58:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 10, 2015, 02:54:04 pm
Can someone please explain to me the appeal of the overpriced three liter bottle of beer?

this may come as a shock to you, but sometime it's not about the price or value.

there is something baller about drinking from such a big bottle.  it's a cool communal thing to all be pouring from the same vesel.  it's as much something to taste as it is something to look at (i.e. you can display it).  some just like to show off that they overpaid.  etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 10, 2015, 04:14:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 10, 2015, 03:58:00 pm
this may come as a shock to you, but sometime it's not about the price or value.

there is something baller about drinking from such a big bottle.  it's a cool communal thing to all be pouring from the same vesel.  it's as much something to taste as it is something to look at (i.e. you can display it).  some just like to show off that they overpaid.  etc.

You like Coldplay, don't you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 10, 2015, 04:25:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 10, 2015, 03:58:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 10, 2015, 02:54:04 pm
Can someone please explain to me the appeal of the overpriced three liter bottle of beer?

this may come as a shock to you, but sometime it's not about the price or value.

there is something baller about drinking from such a big bottle.  it's a cool communal thing to all be pouring from the same vesel.  it's as much something to taste as it is something to look at (i.e. you can display it).  some just like to show off that they overpaid.  etc.

I must confess, I had to google the word "baller".

I poured from a 650ml Double Bastard to a community of four at Thanksgiving. Then we proceeded to pour beer of comparable quality from three more 650-750ml bombers. I'm pretty sure the end result was the same.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 10, 2015, 04:27:51 pm
I have one of these sitting empty on a shelf.  IIRC, the beer was delicious.  I'm thinking the bottle would make an excellent lamp.

http://alchemicale.com/monsters
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on December 11, 2015, 12:59:55 am
Quote from: vansmack on December 10, 2015, 04:14:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 10, 2015, 03:58:00 pm
this may come as a shock to you, but sometime it's not about the price or value.

there is something baller about drinking from such a big bottle.  it's a cool communal thing to all be pouring from the same vesel.  it's as much something to taste as it is something to look at (i.e. you can display it).  some just like to show off that they overpaid.  etc.

You like Coldplay, don't you?

how, dare you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on December 11, 2015, 01:03:45 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 10, 2015, 02:54:04 pm
Can someone please explain to me the appeal of the overpriced three liter bottle of beer?

I mean you can get five 650ml bottles of Stone Double Bastard for under $50, or you can get a three liter bottle (less total beer) of the same beer for $100.

Heck, you could five Stone Box of Bastards, which would give you 20 650ml bottles of beer, including five Double Bastard bombers, for just slightly over $100.



I suppose if holding the big bottle makes you look as cool as this guy, there's your answer.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/3/2522/4005816109_d7b865ed7e.jpg)

America, equals indulgence.  jesus, james freely, you don't know that.  we are talking on a expensive toy machine connected to an invisible created sparkle space called the internet which satisfies all things 24 hours a day as we jerk off to left over materialism.  that's why that guy buys that big bottle.  thats why we look at it and think it is cool.  the end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2015, 08:32:33 am
What's even worse is that's a terrible beer,.at least buy a good magnum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 11, 2015, 09:59:01 am
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2015, 08:32:33 am
What's even worse is that's a terrible beer,

a very large majority disagrees with you (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/43153/1056/) ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2015, 10:07:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 11, 2015, 09:59:01 am
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2015, 08:32:33 am
What's even worse is that's a terrible beer,

a very large majority disagrees with you (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/43153/1056/) ;D

I don't care about Beer Advocate ratings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 11, 2015, 10:18:24 am
which is fine, and clearly you think that beer is awful, i'm just pointing out the fact that you're in a minority who thinks this.

carry on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2015, 10:30:42 am
yeah, I don't think Double B is a terrible beer...I think it's quite good actually

Had this on tap the other day and loved it
(http://brewprof.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/image-e1383672290596.jpg)

although $9.50 before tip was a little steep for a 8 oz pour
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2015, 10:31:43 am
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2015, 10:07:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 11, 2015, 09:59:01 am
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2015, 08:32:33 am
What's even worse is that's a terrible beer,

a very large majority disagrees with you (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/43153/1056/) ;D

I don't care about Beer Advocate ratings.
Yada, beer-contrarian
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 11, 2015, 10:40:22 am
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2015, 08:32:33 am
What's even worse is that's a terrible beer,.at least buy a good magnum.

Different suds for different buds.

It's probably my favorite Stone beer. And I'm a huge Stone/Greg Koch fanboy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2015, 10:52:13 am
I'm not much of a strong ale kinda guy.

I had an 8oz pour of Hardywood Gingerbread Stout last night and loved it, probably couldn't drink much more than 8oz though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 11, 2015, 11:09:39 am
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2015, 10:52:13 am
I'm not much of a strong ale kinda guy.

I had an 8oz pour of Hardywood Gingerbread Stout last night and loved it, probably couldn't drink much more than 8oz though.

Is "strong ale" an actual beer type? I usually think of it as a catch-all for high abv beers that don't neatly fit into any one category.

I think of Double Bastard as a hoppy imperial amber/red ale, or even somewhat close to being an American barleywine, though that's just my opinion. Are you a fan of those style?

I recently choked down about six ounces of the Bourbon GBS, and I'm done with that beer and its variants. I really want to love my VA homeboys Hardywood, but it seems that every beer I drink by them is underwhelming.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2015, 11:22:20 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 11, 2015, 11:09:39 am
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2015, 10:52:13 am
I'm not much of a strong ale kinda guy.

I had an 8oz pour of Hardywood Gingerbread Stout last night and loved it, probably couldn't drink much more than 8oz though.

Is "strong ale" an actual beer type? I usually think of it as a catch-all for high abv beers that don't neatly fit into any one category.

I think of Double Bastard as a hoppy imperial amber/red ale, or even somewhat close to being an American barleywine, though that's just my opinion. Are you a fan of those style?

I recently choked down about six ounces of the Bourbon GBS, and I'm done with that beer and its variants. I really want to love my VA homeboys Hardywood, but it seems that every beer I drink by them is underwhelming.

According to the bible Beer Advocate, strong ale is indeed a beer type.

I'd probably drink a few ounces and enjoy it, but would never buy a bottle or god forbid a magnum. Terrible may have been too strong of an adjective.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 11, 2015, 11:25:07 am
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2015, 11:22:20 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 11, 2015, 11:09:39 am
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2015, 10:52:13 am
I'm not much of a strong ale kinda guy.

I had an 8oz pour of Hardywood Gingerbread Stout last night and loved it, probably couldn't drink much more than 8oz though.

Is "strong ale" an actual beer type? I usually think of it as a catch-all for high abv beers that don't neatly fit into any one category.

I think of Double Bastard as a hoppy imperial amber/red ale, or even somewhat close to being an American barleywine, though that's just my opinion. Are you a fan of those style?

I recently choked down about six ounces of the Bourbon GBS, and I'm done with that beer and its variants. I really want to love my VA homeboys Hardywood, but it seems that every beer I drink by them is underwhelming.

According to the bible Beer Advocate, strong ale is indeed a beer type.

I'd probably drink a few ounces and enjoy it, but would never buy a bottle or god forbid a magnum. Terrible may have been too strong of an adjective.

What about in the Homebrew literature, is strong ale considered a beer type?

Per Beer Advocate:


American Strong Ale
.
Description:
Catch all style category for beers from 7.0 percent alcohol by volume and above. Some may even be as high as 25% abv. Characteristics will greatly vary; some have similarities to Barley-wines and Old Ales. Barrel aging is certainly not out of the question.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 11, 2015, 11:33:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 11, 2015, 11:25:07 am
What about in the Homebrew literature, is strong ale considered a beer type?

for homebrew competition, in the 2008 guidelines, Strong Ale is a category (Cat. 19) that includes old ale (19A), british barleywine (19B) and 'murkan barleywine (19C).  http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style19.php. 

in the just-published 2015 guidelines, there is a new STRONG AMERICAN ALE category (Cat. 22) that includes American Strong Ale (22B) - see p.42 of http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Beer.pdf

in both the 2008 and 2015 guidelines, there is also a Belgian Strong Ale category.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2015, 12:34:48 pm
speaking of American strong ales...have any of you tried this
(http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit/beer_372202.jpg)

BA gave it a pretty poor showing

I was a little sticker shocked at the $10.99 for 1 12oz beer
but it is 17% ABV
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 11, 2015, 12:39:57 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|  on December 11, 2015, 12:34:48 pm
speaking of American strong ales...have any of you tried this
(http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit/beer_372202.jpg)

BA gave it a pretty poor showing

I was a little sticker shocked at the $10.99 for 1 12oz beer
but it is 17% ABV

Walkonby mentioned purchasing it two pages ago. Maybe he has had it by now?
Why does every new Dogfish beer seem like a gimmick?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2015, 12:46:18 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on December 05, 2015, 03:33:30 pm
now, I have access to the following drafts for my next growler:
dfh  higher math
 
What's a 64oz cost...probably $40?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2015, 12:31:48 pm
Adroit Theory Tap Takeover (http://www.sehkraftbrewing.com/event/adroit-theory-tap-takeover/) at sehkraft brewing
   BLVCK Celebration Imperial Porter aged in Rum Barrels
BLVCK Celebration Imperial Porter aged in Oak Barrels
Bloody Roots Imperial Brown Ale aged in Bourbon Barrels
Devil?s Breath Belgian-Style Tripel aged in Mezcal Barrels
G/I/A/A Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels
Lux Wheatwine aged in Anejo Tequila Barrels
The Devil Made Me Smoked Porter w/ Serrano Peppers aged in Mezcal Barrels
Triptych Tart Rambutan Saison aged in Opus One Red Wine Barrels
We Want Your Soul Golden Belgian-Style IPA
Bite the Hand that Feeds Imperial Gose ( Adroit Theory & Sehkraft Collaboration)


Man, would love to try everyone of these
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 16, 2015, 01:27:11 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|  on December 16, 2015, 12:31:48 pm
Adroit Theory Tap Takeover (http://www.sehkraftbrewing.com/event/adroit-theory-tap-takeover/) at sehkraft brewing
   BLVCK Celebration Imperial Porter aged in Rum Barrels
BLVCK Celebration Imperial Porter aged in Oak Barrels
Bloody Roots Imperial Brown Ale aged in Bourbon Barrels
Devil?s Breath Belgian-Style Tripel aged in Mezcal Barrels
G/I/A/A Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels
Lux Wheatwine aged in Anejo Tequila Barrels
The Devil Made Me Smoked Porter w/ Serrano Peppers aged in Mezcal Barrels
Triptych Tart Rambutan Saison aged in Opus One Red Wine Barrels
We Want Your Soul Golden Belgian-Style IPA
Bite the Hand that Feeds Imperial Gose ( Adroit Theory & Sehkraft Collaboration)


Man, would love to try everyone of these

Knock yourself out. That looks like their taplist every weekend at the brewery.

I went there once, had about a half dozen samples. Quality ranged from terrible to mediocre. I'm in the "They should try to make some excellent versions of basic beer styles before they try the fancy weird stuff." category.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2015, 01:37:14 pm
good to know...
the Gose sound interesting and I'm really loving the barrel aged porters lately

Did you try this G/I/A/A (God Is An American)Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels
folks at BA seem to like it

Plus the possibility I make it out to Purcellville for some drinking is about .001%
so that it's in Arlington on tap is pretty enticing

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 16, 2015, 02:10:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 16, 2015, 01:27:11 pm
"They should try to make some excellent versions of basic beer styles before they try the fancy weird stuff"

this is excellent advice for any brewery.  putting shitty beer into a barrel, adding brett, etc. will almost never transform it into something great.  it might salvage it, but generally it will be a waste of a barrel, brett, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 16, 2015, 03:53:16 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|  on December 16, 2015, 01:37:14 pm
good to know...
the Gose sound interesting and I'm really loving the barrel aged porters lately

Did you try this G/I/A/A (God Is An American)Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels
folks at BA seem to like it

Plus the possibility I make it out to Purcellville for some drinking is about .001%
so that it's in Arlington on tap is pretty enticing



In all fairness, I will say that my wife had a higher opinion of their beers than I did. Though she did agree with the mastering the basics thought.

Her complaint was that there service was unfriendly and unresponsive. As someone who spent a number of years as a server, this is a big thing for her. For me, not so much. For you, I don't know. But you'd probably get better,friendlier service in Arlington, plus like you said, the drive.

I'd say it's a place worthy of a one-time stop if you happen to be out that way, but don't make a special trip to go there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 16, 2015, 03:58:54 pm
The question is, who's been to Beltway Brewery and picked up any of the Grimm releases? They have some not-so-space-friendly-ounce-to-cost ratios from what I've seen, but I'm considering hiking out there some weekend when some fresh DIPAs are on the lines.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2015, 04:31:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2015, 03:58:54 pm
Beltway Brewery

think it's a little lame to call yourself beltway brewery when you are in fact not inside the beltway, but 15 miles outside of it

but didn't realize they had a tasting room and is only .5 mile from mile 22 on the W&OD bike trail
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2015, 10:20:27 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on December 16, 2015, 12:31:48 pm
Adroit Theory Tap Takeover (http://www.sehkraftbrewing.com/event/adroit-theory-tap-takeover/) at sehkraft brewing
So I went for about 20 mins and tried
BLVCK Celebration Imperial Porter aged in Oak Barrels
G/I/A/A Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels
Bite the Hand that Feeds Imperial Gose ( Adroit Theory & Sehkraft Collaboration)

The GIAA was best, but had an odd flavor in it that some what detracted from making it great
BLVCK had issues with body for me, good taste, but the bubbles were off
the Gose, was interesting, but not as good as Anderson Valley or Westbrook as a drinkable


Also, I really didn't love the inside of Sehkraft, the outside seating with the firepits was great
I honestly think the bands would be annoying.  Some interesting acts are playing, nothing that I'd likely pay for.
They did have quite a large selection of beers on tap and in bottle
Almost wish I'd stayed away from the Adroit
Those growers were really cool...but $65 a pop! the weigh a ton too
you do get a fill up of their beer with it too, but they won't have any Sehkraft on tap until mid Jan
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 17, 2015, 11:42:29 am
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on December 16, 2015, 10:20:27 pm
G/I/A/A Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels


The GIAA was best, but had an odd flavor in it that some what detracted from making it great

if they made it as a proper IIPA, then it probably didn't age well.  the hops would have dropped out and there should be little malt to hold it up.  throw in some tannins from the barrel and i can see that not working so well...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2015, 02:05:54 pm
I?m hosting a little share for friends back home that like beer but don?t know a damn thing other than they like beer and are more adventurous than your average beer drinker.

I?m trying to have a well-rounded tasting while exposing them to some new beers they?ve definitely never tried. There will probably be six to eight people and most of these guys drink A LOT. Most of the bottles I?m considering are large format, but there are a handful of 12oz?s too. Will probably only bring one/two De Garde bottles and one vertical of the stouts. Thoughts on the list below? Missing anything, too much, too little? Am I die?

High Life
Dorothy
Arthur
Everett
Brother Soigné
Beaucoup Berry Bu
Dry Hop Premiere
Cherry Gose
Petit Desay
Westbrook Gose
The Wind (Lost Nation)
BCBS ? 12?-15?
KBS ? 12? ? 15?
Parabola ? 13? ? 15?
Sacuba ? 13? ? 15?
couple cans each of - Abrasive/Heady/Sip of Sunshine
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 18, 2015, 02:40:58 pm
IMO you're not too deep, too soon.  verts of BCBS, KBS, parabola and sucaba?  i think that's way overkill.  certainly having both BCBS and parabola... just do one or the other.

i wouldn't expect much uptake on the sours.  those are rarely very popular the first time trying them.

and if these folks drink a lot, i would do a first half of the tasting with some of the above, then the second half with some decent but less rare beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 18, 2015, 02:50:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 18, 2015, 02:05:54 pm
Missing anything
yeah, my invatation!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 18, 2015, 02:50:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 18, 2015, 02:40:58 pm
IMO you're not too deep, too soon.  verts of BCBS, KBS, parabola and sucaba?  i think that's way overkill.  certainly having both BCBS and parabola... just do one or the other.

i wouldn't expect much uptake on the sours.  those are rarely very popular the first time trying them.

and if these folks drink a lot, i would do a first half of the tasting with some of the above, then the second half with some decent but less rare beers.

Are you saying he IS to deep, too soon, or is not?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2015, 03:57:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 18, 2015, 02:40:58 pm
IMO you're not too deep, too soon.  verts of BCBS, KBS, parabola and sucaba?  i think that's way overkill.  certainly having both BCBS and parabola... just do one or the other.

i wouldn't expect much uptake on the sours.  those are rarely very popular the first time trying them.

and if these folks drink a lot, i would do a first half of the tasting with some of the above, then the second half with some decent but less rare beers.

You missed this part...

"one vertical of the stouts"



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2015, 03:58:01 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on December 18, 2015, 02:50:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 18, 2015, 02:05:54 pm
Missing anything
yeah, my invatation!

Interested in coming to Western, Pa next week, sidehutch?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 18, 2015, 04:08:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 18, 2015, 02:50:42 pm
Are you saying he IS to deep, too soon, or is not?

IS too deep... i changed the sentence from a negative structure to affirmative, but left behind an extra "not".  should have been "IMO you're too deep, too soon."

(... you saw the whole of the moon...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 18, 2015, 04:12:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 18, 2015, 04:08:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 18, 2015, 02:50:42 pm
Are you saying he IS to deep, too soon, or is not?

IS too deep... i changed the sentence from a negative structure to affirmative, but left behind an extra "not".  should have been "IMO you're too deep, too soon."

(... you saw the whole of the moon...)

Ok. Then I agree with your intended original statement/reply 100% then.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 18, 2015, 04:35:01 pm
New Belgium Brewing explores sale (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-newbelgium-m-a-exclusive-idUSKBN0U11ZM20151218)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 18, 2015, 04:46:23 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|  on December 18, 2015, 04:35:01 pm
New Belgium Brewing explores sale (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-newbelgium-m-a-exclusive-idUSKBN0U11ZM20151218)

Noooooooooooooooooooooo! Enough already.

It's funny that every article you ever read about New Belgium automatically mentions the one shit beer they make, Fat Tire. Every other beer they make ranges from good to outstanding.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 18, 2015, 04:55:17 pm
right, but Fat Tire is their biggest seller.  anyone who is going to pay $$$ for that company is way more interested in FT than their limited-release seasonal sours...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 18, 2015, 04:59:29 pm
I am surprised that NB is going for the same as Ballast
NB seems to have much more presence all over the country
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 18, 2015, 05:05:44 pm
Ballast Point has been on a growth spurt that makes it worth more than an already bigger but slower growing brewery.  they grew 74 percent in 2014 (http://www.brewbound.com/news/breaking-down-the-brewers-associations-top-50-list).  they can't add capacity fast enough.  so investors are buying in to what the brewery will be, not only what it currently it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 18, 2015, 05:09:26 pm
This is being discussed on Beer Advocate forums, someone from Sixpoint Brewing pointed out:

If you were about to open up a $100,000,000+ brewing facility that has over 500,000 barrels of capacity, and your sales were down this year, I'm sure you'd consider selling ;-)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on December 21, 2015, 02:28:13 pm
I highly recommend the new Five Points IPL at Denizens. Also, they're having a growler sale starting tomorrow through January 3. Might pick one or two before my buddy's bottle share/NYE party in Connecticut. I'd pick up some growlers at Ocelot too but that place is such a schlep, though I honestly think they're the best brewery in the DMV right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 22, 2015, 03:41:36 pm
Beer is dead.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/anheuser-busch-acquires-breckenridge-brewery.368372/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on December 22, 2015, 05:34:22 pm
any company, that makes and sells . . . a vanilla porter, deserves to be owned by budweiser.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 22, 2015, 05:43:11 pm
They redeemed themselves by making 471 Small Batch IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 23, 2015, 12:11:42 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on December 22, 2015, 05:34:22 pm
any company, that makes and sells . . . a vanilla porter, deserves to be owned by budweiser.

I had their 25th anniversary rum barrel vanilla porter at a tasting recently - it was not very good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 23, 2015, 06:31:45 pm
Drinking one of these now:

(http://www.craftbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/OldPro_Can_withLogo-600x600.jpg)

Ranked #1 in City Paper's list of  Top 10 Baltimore-Area Brews of 2015  (http://www.citypaper.com/special/topten/2015/bcp-122315-top-10-brews-20151223-story.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on December 23, 2015, 07:03:23 pm
drinking one of these now.  too, much, beer

(http://www.specialtybeercellar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/6656330995_f819d57fa8_z-400x250.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on December 23, 2015, 08:34:29 pm
getting, drunkard.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2015, 08:35:53 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on December 23, 2015, 08:34:29 pm
getting, drunkard.


um.. yah we could tell...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on December 23, 2015, 08:46:06 pm
we should hang out . . . I bet you are a lot of fun.  lets all hang out.  yeah . . . forum party!!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/68/49/3e/68493ed78888bb35b3cb70c32d87e34f.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2015, 08:53:15 pm
lets party in 2016....what would be a good show... i'm not into jam bands.... maybe if somebody decent ever plays the state theatre again....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on December 23, 2015, 08:53:41 pm
YES . . . IT IS A PLAN!!!!

I don't care what show.  I like all types of music.  and I do, like the state theatre. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2015, 09:05:59 pm
good good...2016 lookin' up!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on December 30, 2015, 06:48:19 pm
My best Christmas beer:
(http://cdn.belgianstyleales.com/images/uploads/item7008_575_x_575.jpg)

I also had a very nice Corsendonk Christmas Ale, but I liked the McChoffee enough that I bought more for NYE. Smooth and tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dyecraig on January 01, 2016, 12:19:10 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 23, 2015, 08:53:15 pm
lets party in 2016....what would be a good show... i'm not into jam bands.... maybe if somebody decent ever plays the state theatre again....
lez zeppelin @ state 1/9

the drummer is also a bouncer:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/just-how-easy-is-it-to-smuggle-drugs-into-a-new-york-city-nightclub-8082653?utm_source=Newsletters&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 01, 2016, 10:27:38 pm
Quote from: dyecraig on January 01, 2016, 12:19:10 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 23, 2015, 08:53:15 pm
lets party in 2016....what would be a good show... i'm not into jam bands.... maybe if somebody decent ever plays the state theatre again....
lez zeppelin @ state 1/9


that doesn't sound like that bad of an idea
 Knebworth '79 performed in its entirety!l (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/led-zeppelin/1979/knebworth-park-knebworth-england-23d6c083.htm)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 03, 2016, 03:13:23 pm
Quote from: dyecraig on January 01, 2016, 12:19:10 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 23, 2015, 08:53:15 pm
lets party in 2016....what would be a good show... i'm not into jam bands.... maybe if somebody decent ever plays the state theatre again....
lez zeppelin @ state 1/9

the drummer is also a bouncer:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/just-how-easy-is-it-to-smuggle-drugs-into-a-new-york-city-nightclub-8082653?utm_source=Newsletters&utm_medium=email

If you're posting this in the beer thread, it seems like the next forum circle jerk should be at a brewery. Like Ocelot, or the new Right Proper taproom.

And I say "circle jerk" in a completely non-homophobic, it's an awesome thing kind of way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 03, 2016, 03:15:21 pm
This place sounds very promising. Supposedly opening in Richmond in February.

http://www.richmond.com/business/local/article_8694f1d8-73a2-56b3-850e-bed43937bcc4.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 05, 2016, 05:41:40 pm
Haven't been to any of these (truthfully, I've been to relativity few)
but noticed that Space's Cigar City made the list

Bucket List Breweries: 20 U.S. Breweries You Should At Least Visit Once (http://coolmaterial.com/feature/bucket-list-breweries-20-u-s-breweries-you-should-visit-once/)

Church Brew Works in Pittsburgh, PA looks awesome


Also saw the best breweries road trip  (http://coolmaterial.com/travel/the-best-breweries-in-america-road-trip/)that looks fun
not much in the mid-Atlantic :(   
(Stillwater in Balt :) )
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 05, 2016, 06:13:34 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on January 05, 2016, 05:41:40 pm
Haven't been to any of these (truthfully, I've been to relativity few)
but noticed that Space's Cigar City made the list

Bucket List Breweries: 20 U.S. Breweries You Should At Least Visit Once (http://coolmaterial.com/feature/bucket-list-breweries-20-u-s-breweries-you-should-visit-once/)

Church Brew Works in Pittsburgh, PA looks awesome


Also saw the best breweries road trip  (http://coolmaterial.com/travel/the-best-breweries-in-america-road-trip/)that looks fun
not much in the mid-Atlantic :(   
(Stillwater in Balt :) )

How's my bottle coming along SH?

I used to drink at Church Brewworks all of the time many years ago. Super cool spot... I haven't been in about a decade, but it would be interesting to see how the beer has held up over time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 05, 2016, 09:55:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 05, 2016, 06:13:34 pm
How's my bottle coming along SH?

Just put the imperial porter (7.4 ABV) into the bottle this past weekend...needs about 2-3 weeks of bottle conditioning
but I've got a bomber with your name on it and you can have it (just need to wait to drink it)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 05, 2016, 10:04:40 pm
Bucket List Breweries: 20 U.S. Breweries You Should At Least Visit Once

Eight down, 12 to go.

best breweries road trip

32 down, so far. Although Clown Shoes is contract brewed by another brewery, and Pipeworks has no tasting room...so I'm not sure how you'd visit those two...

I think they are referring to Of Love and Regret when they are referring to Stillwater.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 06, 2016, 01:58:38 pm
How to stick with your exercise resolution: Drink beer (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/06/health/beer-as-an-exercise-motivator/)
works for me, don't even need to read the story :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 06, 2016, 02:07:32 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on January 05, 2016, 05:41:40 pm
Haven't been to any of these (truthfully, I've been to relativity few)

Bucket List Breweries: 20 U.S. Breweries You Should At Least Visit Once (http://coolmaterial.com/feature/bucket-list-breweries-20-u-s-breweries-you-should-visit-once/)


You need to step up your game.  I don't even make an effort to taste beer and I've been to 6 of these....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 06, 2016, 02:13:36 pm
Quote from: vansmack on January 06, 2016, 02:07:32 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on January 05, 2016, 05:41:40 pm
Haven't been to any of these (truthfully, I've been to relativity few)

Bucket List Breweries: 20 U.S. Breweries You Should At Least Visit Once (http://coolmaterial.com/feature/bucket-list-breweries-20-u-s-breweries-you-should-visit-once/)


You need to step up your game.  I don't even make an effort to taste beer and I've been to 6 of these....

Living in California and (I seem to recall) having a partner with ties to Colorado is a definite advantage over living in VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 06, 2016, 02:16:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 06, 2016, 02:13:36 pm
Living in California and (I seem to recall) having a partner with ties to Colorado is a definite advantage over living in VA.

Thank you for the first "Most Obvious Post of 2016" and I'm not just talking about beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2016, 02:47:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 05, 2016, 06:13:34 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on January 05, 2016, 05:41:40 pm
Church Brew Works in Pittsburgh, PA looks awesome
I used to drink at Church Brewworks all of the time many years ago. Super cool spot... I haven't been in about a decade, but it would be interesting to see how the beer has held up over time.

the missus has family in Pitt so we end up there every thanksgiving.  been to church brewworks a few times, last time was 2 or 3 years ago.  beers are generally OK, with one or two out of a dozen being really good.  most of their beers are pretty middle-of-the-road but they always have a few nerd-worthy offerings.  i remember having two different brett beers when i was last there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on January 06, 2016, 02:53:53 pm
This is going to be fun this weekend:  http://www.bigbeersfestival.com/2016-Festival-Program.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2016, 03:25:56 pm
^ wow.  check out the black project if you can.  wicked weed also seems to have some fine beers available... oh who am i kidding.  that list is effing insane.  dunno how you'd choose.  jealous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on January 06, 2016, 04:16:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 06, 2016, 03:25:56 pm
^ wow.  check out the black project if you can.  wicked weed also seems to have some fine beers available... oh who am i kidding.  that list is effing insane.  dunno how you'd choose.  jealous.

A friend of mine designed the labels for the Black Project.  Love their beers.  I have spent a few afternoons perched at the bar at Former Future enjoying their beers and Maria's Empanadas next door.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 07, 2016, 04:39:51 pm
Drinking some of this right now. 2013 bottle. Holy shit this is good. Wish I had more than one bottle.

Maybe the second best bourbon beer I've had behind Founders CBS.

(https://eatablesnpotables.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/de_3088_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 07, 2016, 04:50:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 07, 2016, 04:39:51 pm
Drinking some of this right now.
At 3:49pm? Scandalous!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 07, 2016, 05:01:19 pm
don't worry . . . him, his wife, his ten kids, and the three people who live in his basement . . . are all splitting it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 07, 2016, 05:01:35 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on January 07, 2016, 04:50:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 07, 2016, 04:39:51 pm
Drinking some of this right now.
At 3:49pm? Scandalous!!

Nah, not really. Took day off, tomorrow is last day of use or lose. Makes researching toilet parts and watching a foreign film infinitely more fun.

Drinking a Stone Double Bastard and a Fatheads Headhunter at 8:15am in the Philly Airport on the way to the Virgin Islands for Xmas...now that was scandalous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 07, 2016, 05:02:25 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on January 07, 2016, 05:01:19 pm
don't worry . . . him, his wife, his ten kids, and the three people who live in his basement . . . are all splitting it.

Dude, I'm not Mexican.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 07, 2016, 05:14:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 07, 2016, 05:02:25 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on January 07, 2016, 05:01:19 pm
don't worry . . . him, his wife, his ten kids, and the three people who live in his basement . . . are all splitting it.

Dude, I'm not Mexican.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdtletACTf1rosb88o1_r1_500.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 07, 2016, 05:15:15 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 07, 2016, 04:39:51 pm
Drinking some of this right now. 2013 bottle. Holy shit this is good. Wish I had more than one bottle.

Maybe the second best bourbon beer I've had behind Founders CBS.

(https://eatablesnpotables.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/de_3088_lg.jpg)

Such a killer beer. This year's version wasn't too shabby either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2016, 10:37:56 am
Virginia hops, barley farmers could get a tax break (http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/blog/top-shelf/2016/01/virginia-hops-barley-farmers-could-get-a-tax.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 14, 2016, 09:47:59 pm
Mmmmm, how tasty does this one look?

https://www.facebook.com/OcelotBrewing/photos/a.250978798359661.1073741828.212476642209877/357094497748090/?type=3&theater

Had it yesterday. It was pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 14, 2016, 11:15:33 pm
"Gravity Always Wins"... love it when you get to play "name that tune" with beer names.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2016, 02:43:38 pm
so what's everyone drinkin' this coming weekend?

Assuming no hiccups, I should have a case of these cans on my porch tomorrow.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXbdUBFUQAEB7VT.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 21, 2016, 02:46:17 pm
I am having some neighbors over and I will leave out my liquor cabinet and wine refrigerator contents since this is the beer thread, but here's what I have:

12 pack Bell's Winter White Ale
12 pack Bell's Two Hearted
2 4 packs of Founder's Breakfast stout
4 of those 750mL bottles of Hardywood Sidamo Coffee Stout
4 pack of Stiegl Radler

Mock away, beer people.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 21, 2016, 02:48:06 pm
no stroh!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2016, 02:48:12 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on January 21, 2016, 02:46:17 pm
I am having some neighbors over and I will leave out my liquor cabinet and wine refrigerator contents since this is the beer thread, but here's what I have:

12 pack Bell's Winter White Ale
12 pack Bell's Two Hearted
2 4 packs of Founder's Breakfast stout
4 of those 750mL bottles of Hardywood Sidamo Coffee Stout
4 pack of Stiegl Radler

Mock away, beer people.

I'd drink a few of those.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 21, 2016, 04:59:57 pm
Six ounces of some to be determined beer, after the King of the Hill marathon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 21, 2016, 05:27:48 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on January 21, 2016, 02:46:17 pm
I am having some neighbors over and I will leave out my liquor cabinet and wine refrigerator contents since this is the beer thread, but here's what I have:

12 pack Bell's Winter White Ale
12 pack Bell's Two Hearted
2 4 packs of Founder's Breakfast stout
4 of those 750mL bottles of Hardywood Sidamo Coffee Stout
4 pack of Stiegl Radler

Mock away, beer people.

the breakfast stout and two-hearted are solid offerings.  white winter is fine/ok.  the bourbon barrel aged version of the sidamo stout was a little disappointing, maybe the non-barreled version is better?  don't think i've had the radler.

so while i wouldn't got trekking through 2 feet of snow for that selection, it's be happy to have it as accompaniment to the impending Doom of White.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 21, 2016, 05:30:43 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 21, 2016, 05:27:48 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on January 21, 2016, 02:46:17 pm
I am having some neighbors over and I will leave out my liquor cabinet and wine refrigerator contents since this is the beer thread, but here's what I have:

12 pack Bell's Winter White Ale
12 pack Bell's Two Hearted
2 4 packs of Founder's Breakfast stout
4 of those 750mL bottles of Hardywood Sidamo Coffee Stout
4 pack of Stiegl Radler

Mock away, beer people.

the breakfast stout and two-hearted are solid offerings.  white winter is fine/ok.  the bourbon barrel aged version of the sidamo stout was a little disappointing, maybe the non-barreled version is better?  don't think i've had the radler.

so while i wouldn't got trekking through 2 feet of snow for that selection, it's be happy to have it as accompaniment to the impending Doom of White.
Well, they're "trekking" less than 2 blocks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2016, 12:12:51 am
I post a Sturgill (https://youtu.be/tNV16tz1NK0) song here
1. because it's in front of a wall of Sun King Brewery cans
2. It is just freaking too awesome not to share
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2016, 10:22:05 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ★ on January 22, 2016, 12:12:51 am
I post a Sturgill (https://youtu.be/tNV16tz1NK0) song here
1. because it's in front of a wall of Sun King Brewery cans
2. It is just freaking too awesome not to share

Sometimes I love this dude, sometimes I just can't get into it... I dig this tune.

Sue arrived safely!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2016, 11:24:38 am
Has anyone had the 2011 Atom Smasher by Rock Bottom (they have it in Bethesda)
it is absolutely delish English Barleywine and highly recommended (by me)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on January 22, 2016, 11:34:09 am
I really like Bells Two Hearted.

I stocked up as well. Got 4 sixers of this at home, and I'm not even that big of a beer guy.

(https://smuttynose.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Beer-Hero-BB-410x410-FK.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 22, 2016, 02:36:15 pm
I spent 160 at the stupid store, Southern States, and butcher combined, so that I just went with something that I normally would not have.  It was easy and cheaper compared to the beer store, and that was a new belgium box set with bonus beers, one catching my eye and making me buy the thing . . . called, snow day winter ale.  Plus a 6 pack of brown shugga.  Amazing that my local, little food lion is carrying anything excect the beast ice and mickies big mouth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2016, 04:22:47 pm
Drinking yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 22, 2016, 04:24:21 pm
I have, had one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 04:30:23 pm
six ounces of Jai Alai at lunch

Invitation from a neighbor: "We're having a party tonight, we'll have beers and snacks. But feel free to bring over some of your rare beers, we've got small glasses so everyone can share."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 22, 2016, 04:30:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 22, 2016, 04:22:47 pm
Drinking yet?
2 deep.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2016, 04:30:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 22, 2016, 04:22:47 pm
Drinking yet?
yep...just had a conference call whilst drinking 12oz of 8.1 abv Winter Warmer
by the end of the call, didn't even really care what they were talking about
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 22, 2016, 04:33:06 pm
I'm baking cookies to take to a bar!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2016, 04:34:45 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on January 22, 2016, 04:33:06 pm
I'm baking cookies to take to a bar!
I hope they give you a giant wedgie
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2016, 04:36:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 04:30:23 pm
six ounces of Jai Alai at lunch

Invitation from a neighbor: "We're having a party tonight, we'll have beers and snacks. But feel free to bring over some of your rare beers, we've got small glasses so everyone can share."


Sounds like you made a wise decision working from home.

Making a last minute run to the store for some parsley!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2016, 05:04:08 pm
and... people are already driving like morons!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 22, 2016, 05:45:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 04:30:23 pm
six ounces of Jai Alai at lunch

i was drinking some 8 day old jai alai this week.  still a great IPA.

Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 04:30:23 pm
Invitation from a neighbor: "We're having a party tonight, we'll have beers and snacks. But feel free to bring over some of your rare beers, we've got small glasses so everyone can share."

clearly you have them well trained.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 22, 2016, 06:07:12 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ★ on January 22, 2016, 04:34:45 pm
Quote from: Carlos Spicyweiner, a Julian®©? BRAND on January 22, 2016, 04:33:06 pm
I'm baking cookies to take to a bar!
I hope they give you a giant wedgie
They adore me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on January 22, 2016, 07:26:10 pm
Right when the flurries started at 1pm I was at Total Wine Chantilly. I left with a Growler of Forge Roggenbier and a bottle of Ommegang Rosetta (I might get a four pack next time if I dig it).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2016, 07:26:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 22, 2016, 05:45:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 04:30:23 pm
six ounces of Jai Alai at lunch

i was drinking some 8 day old jai alai this week.  still a great IPA.

Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 04:30:23 pm
Invitation from a neighbor: "We're having a party tonight, we'll have beers and snacks. But feel free to bring over some of your rare beers, we've got small glasses so everyone can share."

clearly you have them well trained.

Clearly you're ignoring your wife if you're even considering leaving the house, stud.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 08:57:40 pm
Quote from: vansmack on January 22, 2016, 07:26:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 22, 2016, 05:45:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 04:30:23 pm
six ounces of Jai Alai at lunch

i was drinking some 8 day old jai alai this week.  still a great IPA.

Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 04:30:23 pm
Invitation from a neighbor: "We're having a party tonight, we'll have beers and snacks. But feel free to bring over some of your rare beers, we've got small glasses so everyone can share."

clearly you have them well trained.

We're headed nowhere. :)

Clearly you're ignoring your wife if you're even considering leaving the house, stud.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 22, 2016, 08:58:22 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on January 22, 2016, 07:26:10 pm
Right when the flurries started at 1pm I was at Total Wine Chantilly. I left with a Growler of Forge Roggenbier and a bottle of Ommegang Rosetta (I might get a four pack next time if I dig it).

Really like that Rosetta.

Just finishing six ounces of Ommegang Hennepin with dinner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 27, 2016, 11:30:48 am
RIP stevewizzle
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2016, 11:55:32 am
Quote from: Yada on January 27, 2016, 11:30:48 am
RIP stevewizzle
what happened to fart sound?
I assume this is a virtual RIP
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2016, 12:39:31 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ★ on January 27, 2016, 11:55:32 am
Quote from: Yada on January 27, 2016, 11:30:48 am
RIP stevewizzle
what happened to fart sound?
I assume this is a virtual RIP
definitely disabled his account...wonder why you would disable it at all?
unless he had it send him emails or something and that was getting annoying
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 27, 2016, 12:42:07 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ★ on January 27, 2016, 12:39:31 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ★ on January 27, 2016, 11:55:32 am
Quote from: Yada on January 27, 2016, 11:30:48 am
RIP stevewizzle
what happened to fart sound?
I assume this is a virtual RIP
definitely disabled his account...wonder why you would disable it at all?
unless he had it send him emails or something and that was getting annoying


he's matured and moved on from the forum... or melted down like walk,y.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 27, 2016, 12:53:13 pm
Well, you know who i, blame.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2016, 12:54:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 27, 2016, 12:42:07 pm

Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ★ on January 27, 2016, 11:55:32 am
Quote from: Yada on January 27, 2016, 11:30:48 am
RIP stevewizzle

he's matured and moved on from the forum...
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/30265730.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 27, 2016, 12:56:51 pm
He found Rhett intolerable + real life.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 27, 2016, 02:37:01 pm
Deschutes Abyss was supposed to hit today in NoVA, and I'm teleworking, so it was looking like the stars were aligning...but it looks like the storm delayed its arrival. DAMN.

 I did pick up a sixer of Stone Enjoy By Unfiltered, and the Enjoy By Black IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 27, 2016, 11:21:44 pm
target, has ballast point grapefruit sculpin . . . for $14.99 a six pack.  what?  oh, those target shoppers; they think they are so all that, with their nice clothes, smiling faces, and no babies running down the aisles in dirty diapers, screaming and throwing things off the shelves, as the parents do nothing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 27, 2016, 11:34:43 pm
the case of yuengling (bottles) at BJs wholesale club went up from 16.49 to 16.99...it had been 16.49 for a long long time... in 2010 when the place opened it had been 16.29....I dunno...


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 28, 2016, 10:42:13 am
Quote from: hutch on January 27, 2016, 11:34:43 pm
the case of yuengling (bottles) at BJs wholesale club went up from 16.49 to 16.99...it had been 16.49 for a long long time... in 2010 when the place opened it had been 16.29....I dunno...




not a bad deal if you don't mind spider pooh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 29, 2016, 04:53:43 pm
http://www.dogfish.com/community/blogfish/members/janellemiley/introducing-our-2016-seasonal-artist-and-artwork.htm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2016, 05:31:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 27, 2016, 11:30:48 am
RIP stevewizzle

I thought he just posted under a new name.  Am I wrong about that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2016, 05:33:48 pm
Quote from: vansmack on January 29, 2016, 05:31:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 27, 2016, 11:30:48 am
RIP stevewizzle

I thought he just posted under a new name.  Am I wrong about that?

my detective work was that he was posting under fart sound (and C spicy wiener before)...but looks like his last action was to change it back to stevewizzle and deactivate his account

I dunno...guess being in Seattle made it odd to post on a DC music club board
wait, don't most of you do that too?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 30, 2016, 08:36:53 pm
Evil genius, stacys mom.  On draft.  In a bar.  With friends.  Taking selfies.  Getting crazy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 30, 2016, 09:29:18 pm
Split a 2014 bottle of this last night. So good.

(http://www.beerfm.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Bruery-Oude-Tart.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 31, 2016, 04:44:05 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 30, 2016, 09:29:18 pm
Split a 2014 bottle of this last night. So good.

(http://www.beerfm.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Bruery-Oude-Tart.jpg)

you split that? hopefully at least 4 people...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2016, 07:04:30 pm
Nothing beats a bottle of this on a Sunday afternoon.

(http://passionbeer.com/wp-content/themes/FREEmium/img/ng-belgian.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 31, 2016, 07:50:57 pm
I found, this today . . . hope it is good.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYqeYGZUwAAPLjO.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 31, 2016, 09:17:00 pm
it is, very good.  smooth ipa, with not a serious bite or citrus sour that turns off a lot of people to ipas.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2016, 10:39:12 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on January 31, 2016, 09:17:00 pm
it is, very good.  smooth ipa, with not a serious bite or citrus sour that turns off a lot of people to ipas.   

I preferred the label design to the actual beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 31, 2016, 10:55:14 pm
it is, a pretty cool label.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 31, 2016, 11:02:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2016, 10:39:12 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on January 31, 2016, 09:17:00 pm
it is, very good.  smooth ipa, with not a serious bite or citrus sour that turns off a lot of people to ipas.   

I preferred the label design to the actual beer.
im guessing from his description plus yours it's basically an amber version of all day ipa?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on January 31, 2016, 11:03:44 pm
bingo
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2016, 11:30:22 pm
this weekend i came home with a growler of grapefruit sculpin and a sixer enjoy by unfiltered.  the missus, who typically doesn't like IPAs, had 2 servings of each.  tears of pride ensued.  the end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 01, 2016, 12:13:37 am
yuengling
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 01, 2016, 09:40:38 am
Quote from: hutch on February 01, 2016, 12:13:37 am
yuengling

#spiderpooh
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 01, 2016, 09:50:52 am
Quote from: Julian, fantasy COCKGOBBLER on January 31, 2016, 11:02:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2016, 10:39:12 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on January 31, 2016, 09:17:00 pm
it is, very good.  smooth ipa, with not a serious bite or citrus sour that turns off a lot of people to ipas.   

I preferred the label design to the actual beer.
im guessing from his description plus yours it's basically an amber version of all day ipa?

It's the new Founders winter seasonal IPA. At 7.0% abv, it packs more of a punch than the sessionable All Day. It's made with azacca hops, which I'm sure Sweetcell or Sidehutch could tell us more about.

Another interesting Founders development is that they're not making Double Trouble this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 01, 2016, 10:42:15 am
I don't know squat about azacca hops
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 01, 2016, 10:49:37 am
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n8/nmeurer80/publicViewAttachment%205_zpsw0amk8na.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 01, 2016, 10:59:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 01, 2016, 09:50:52 am
It's made with azacca hops, which I'm sure Sweetcell or Sidehutch could tell us more about.

azacca is a new kid on the block, not looking like a blockbuster say the way mosaic was.  big tropical & citrus flavors AKA meant for IPAs.  

i was given a 1 oz sample, smelled really nice out of the bag.  i dry-hopped a sour with it along with an ounce of motueka.  with everything going on in that beer it's impossible to pick out what the azacca is contributing specifically but it's a damn fine beer ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 01, 2016, 12:41:08 pm
I think it, the hops, are from Australia?  I like, it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 01, 2016, 01:10:32 pm
THANK YOU JIMMY CARTER

37th Anniversary of Homebrew Legalization

February 1, 2016 (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/37th-anniversary-of-homebrew-legalization/)

(http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/jimmy_feature.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 01, 2016, 07:14:44 pm
I like the new troegs bottle paper wrappers.  sophisto.  drinking, a perpetual ipa, right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 01, 2016, 07:51:52 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 01, 2016, 07:14:44 pm
I like the new troegs bottle paper wrappers.  sophisto.  drinking, a perpetual ipa, right now.

There was a big debate on Beer Advocate forums about those labels. It seemed a lot of people thought they were aiming for the twee hipster market.

I'm not sure how i feel about them. Their old labels were sort of boring anyway.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 01, 2016, 08:23:42 pm
the yuengling label is pretty cool.. an eagle flying in the air holding a barrell of the best beer this side of arlington ...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2016, 01:53:22 pm
MOM would have totally gotten elected if he did stuff like this

Maryland Governor Declares Month of February as FeBREWary  (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/arts_and_entertainment/maryland-governor-declares-month-of-february-as-febrewary/article_c598ef12-b68b-5418-b6cd-4f487754bd30.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2016, 04:22:24 pm
Thought both Hutch and Yada would find some interest in this
cheap beer taste test (http://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/cheap-beer-taste-test.htm)

Yuengling...the best of the worst!
Yada will like this quote: Yuengling. Smells like a bar bathroom.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 04, 2016, 04:08:54 pm
commence drooling
The Sovereign's Draft list  (http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Sovereign%20Draft%20List%202.4.2016.pdf)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 04, 2016, 04:26:23 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 02, 2016, 01:53:22 pm
MOM would have totally gotten elected if he did stuff like this

Maryland Governor Declares Month of February as FeBREWary  (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/arts_and_entertainment/maryland-governor-declares-month-of-february-as-febrewary/article_c598ef12-b68b-5418-b6cd-4f487754bd30.html)

Well down here in the District, we're celebrating FeBUDuary.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 04, 2016, 06:03:01 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 03, 2016, 04:22:24 pm
Thought both Hutch and Yada would find some interest in this
cheap beer taste test (http://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/cheap-beer-taste-test.htm)

Yuengling...the best of the worst!
Yada will like this quote: Yuengling. Smells like a bar bathroom.

you didn't seem to have a problem when i offered you one before holy holy... come to think of it you seemed pretty grateful

I call out the beer snobs..

in tragic news BJs is out of Yuengling due to the SUper Bowl.. I was a bit freaked out so I went to customer service but was placated by "OH NO WE would never stop carrying it.. it sells way too much.."

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 04, 2016, 06:09:26 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 04, 2016, 06:03:01 pm

you didn't seem to have a problem when i offered you one before holy holy... come to think of it you seemed pretty grateful
let me be clear...I (unfortunately) drink yuengling regularly  :-\
if money were no object, I'd be drinking craft brews and specialty releases all the time
I'd have a killer home brew set up and have stouts and sours coming out the yingyang

but I've got a lot of mouths to feed and bills to pay on my salary
so I can't be drinking the good stuff more than a few times a month

but I can still mock your preference for the cheapest beer

I do find it mildly funny that you keep coming to the beer thread

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 04, 2016, 06:14:38 pm
I can only drink Yuengling and Miller High Life on that list... the rest i find utterly gross.. I dont' care how cheap they are...

I've drank a million beers and I've tried them all and in general cheap beers are horrible.. PBR gives me a headache....Keystone is gross... Gennesse which I wrote about on this board I could not even finish the case and just chucked it....

i don't know about the Yuengling hate..after Foggy Bottom closed it was the defacto DC beer and people enjoyed it then and I still do today.. but now people just want to be snooty so they look down on it..  I mean if I am at the State Theatre and they have a bunch of beers its between Yuengling and Sierra Nevada .. the rest are stuff I won't drink.. don't care

but its true that if I drank beer like some people here "oh lets split an ounce with dinner" maybe I would look at things differently.. but I drink quite a bit of beer so I have to take price into account.. but like yesterday after the BJs fiasco I went to the lost dog and bought a six of Moretti and found it really boring....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 04, 2016, 06:16:01 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 06:09:26 pm


but I can still mock your preference for the cheapest beer

I do find it mildly funny that you keep coming to the beer thread



I agree with both points... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2016, 06:18:59 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 04:08:54 pm
commence drooling
The Sovereign's Draft list  (http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Sovereign%20Draft%20List%202.4.2016.pdf)

yup, wow.  never heard of this place, yet all of a sudden i'm contemplating getting home late tonight...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 04, 2016, 06:19:39 pm
someone has to stand up for the common foot soldier.. the salt of the earth...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on February 04, 2016, 07:01:56 pm
I am headed to this in Boulder on Saturday at Backcountry.  It is quite a list:

We're celebrating being around for five years by throwing you all a party on February 6th and we are going BIG! This will be an entire tap take over (68 taps total) of the best of the best:
1. Melvin IPA
2. Melvin Hubert
3. Melvin 2x4
4. Melvin Purple Drank
5. Alesmith Vietnamese Speedway Stout
6. Off Color DinoS'mores
7. Russian River Pliny the Elder
8. Russian River Consecration
9. Russian River Supplication
10. Russian River Temptation
11. Russian River Blind Pig
12. Pipeworks Lizard King
13. Comrade Superpower
14. New Belgium Love Oscar Foeder #30: Ol' Dirty Bastard
15. Birrificio Del Ducato La Luna Rossa
16. Birrificio Del Ducato My Blueberry Nightmare
17. Ballast Point Victory at Sea - Elijah Craig Barrel Aged
18. Avery 2013 Tweak (non barrel aged)
19. Avery 2014 Tweak
20. Lord Hobo Boom Sauce
21. Birrificio LoverBeer Beera Brugna
22. Mad River 2012 Bourbon Barrel Aged Russian Imperial Stout
23. The Bruery Rueze
24. The Bruery Oude Tart
25. Telluride/Elevation Barrel Aged Bridging the Divide
26. Goose Island Bourbon County
27. Goose Island Coffee Bourbon County
28. Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break
29. Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break Natale
30. Stone Xocovesa
31. Wibby Brewing IPL
32. Hof Ten Dormaal Zure Van Tildonk
33. Cannonball Creek Terrible 3
34. BFM 2014 Abbaye St. Bon Chien
35. BFM 225 Sour Saison
36. Freigeist Quince Gose
37. Reisdorf Kolsch
38. Sierra Nevada Barrel Aged Bigfoot
39. Prairie Bomb
40. Crooked Stave Silly Sybies
41. Crooked Stave Mama Bear's Cherry Pie
42. Crooked Stave L'Brett d'Cherry
43. Trinity Cherry Sour Threads
44. Trinity Chilly Water
45. Tilquin Gueuze
46. Great Divide Barrel Aged Yeti
47. Grimm Bros. Lionheart
48. Brasserie de Blaugies Saison d'Epeautre
49. Firestone Walker Agrestic
50. Firestone Walker Bretta Weisse
51. Firestone Walker 19th Anniversary
52. Drydock Whiskey BA Double Coffee Porter
53. Drydock Whiskey BA Double Vanilla Porter
54. De Struise Brouwers 2008 Rio Reserva
55. De Struise Brouwers 2009 Rio Reserva
56. Nøgne Ø Dark Horizon 3rd Edition
57. Etienne DuPont Pomme Calvados 98
58. Picobrouwerij Alvinne Phi
59. Picobrouwerij Alvinne Wild West
60. Almanac Farmer's Reserve Blueberry
61. Ballast Point Grapefruit Sculpin
62. Firestone Walker PIVO Pils
63. Hill Farmstead Dorothy
64. Perennial 2014 Sump
65. Perennial Abraxas
66. Breakside Safeword
67. Hogshead Barrel Aged Gilpin Black Gold
68. Hogshead Richard Roundtree
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 04, 2016, 09:30:05 pm
Sounds like my first reason to visit Georgetown in a very, very long time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 04, 2016, 09:34:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 04, 2016, 09:30:05 pm
Sounds like my first reason to visit Georgetown in a very, very long time.

Here's another. All beers on this great list are $4 from 5-7 every Monday  through Thursday in the downstairs area.

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/georgetown-beer-menu/

Seems like the Birreria is stepping up their game in anticipation of competition.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 04, 2016, 09:48:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 04, 2016, 09:34:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 04, 2016, 09:30:05 pm
Sounds like my first reason to visit Georgetown in a very, very long time.

Here's another. All beers on this great list are $4 from 5-7 every Monday  through Thursday in the downstairs area.

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/georgetown-beer-menu/

Seems like the Birreria is stepping up their game in anticipation of competition.

If I could get there before 6, I'd consider it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 04, 2016, 11:35:18 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 04, 2016, 06:18:59 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 04:08:54 pm
commence drooling
The Sovereign's Draft list  (http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Sovereign%20Draft%20List%202.4.2016.pdf)

yup, wow.  never heard of this place, yet all of a sudden i'm contemplating getting home late tonight...
opening night is Friday...so hope you didn't go tonight
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 04, 2016, 11:39:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 04, 2016, 09:34:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 04, 2016, 09:30:05 pm
Sounds like my first reason to visit Georgetown in a very, very long time.

Here's another. All beers on this great list are $4 from 5-7 every Monday  through Thursday in the downstairs area.

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/georgetown-beer-menu/

Seems like the Birreria is stepping up their game in anticipation of competition.
that is quite a good deal as their beer list is always top notch
When I start biking into work again, this is most certainly going to be a pit stop


I will say I'm really getting tired of all these pizza places though...
just want a f'n normal slice of NY pizza  (I am a new convert to Pete's ...that's some good za)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 04, 2016, 11:58:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 11:35:18 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 04, 2016, 06:18:59 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 04:08:54 pm
commence drooling
The Sovereign's Draft list  (http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Sovereign%20Draft%20List%202.4.2016.pdf)

yup, wow.  never heard of this place, yet all of a sudden i'm contemplating getting home late tonight...
opening night is Friday...so hope you didn't go tonight

everywhere I'm reading says Thurs 2/4
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 12:04:59 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 04, 2016, 11:58:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 11:35:18 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 04, 2016, 06:18:59 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 04:08:54 pm
commence drooling
The Sovereign's Draft list  (http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Sovereign%20Draft%20List%202.4.2016.pdf)

yup, wow.  never heard of this place, yet all of a sudden i'm contemplating getting home late tonight...
opening night is Friday...so hope you didn't go tonight

everywhere I'm reading says Thurs 2/4
wadaIknow...I thought I saw friday
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2016, 09:58:31 am
Quote from: Lazer Guided Melodies on February 04, 2016, 07:01:56 pm
I am headed to this in Boulder on Saturday at Backcountry.  It is quite a list:

We're celebrating being around for five years by throwing you all a party on February 6th and we are going BIG! This will be an entire tap take over (68 taps total) of the best of the best:
1. Melvin IPA
2. Melvin Hubert
3. Melvin 2x4
4. Melvin Purple Drank
5. Alesmith Vietnamese Speedway Stout
6. Off Color DinoS'mores
7. Russian River Pliny the Elder
8. Russian River Consecration
9. Russian River Supplication
10. Russian River Temptation
11. Russian River Blind Pig
12. Pipeworks Lizard King
13. Comrade Superpower
14. New Belgium Love Oscar Foeder #30: Ol' Dirty Bastard
15. Birrificio Del Ducato La Luna Rossa
16. Birrificio Del Ducato My Blueberry Nightmare
17. Ballast Point Victory at Sea - Elijah Craig Barrel Aged
18. Avery 2013 Tweak (non barrel aged)
19. Avery 2014 Tweak
20. Lord Hobo Boom Sauce
21. Birrificio LoverBeer Beera Brugna
22. Mad River 2012 Bourbon Barrel Aged Russian Imperial Stout
23. The Bruery Rueze
24. The Bruery Oude Tart
25. Telluride/Elevation Barrel Aged Bridging the Divide
26. Goose Island Bourbon County
27. Goose Island Coffee Bourbon County
28. Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break
29. Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break Natale
30. Stone Xocovesa
31. Wibby Brewing IPL
32. Hof Ten Dormaal Zure Van Tildonk
33. Cannonball Creek Terrible 3
34. BFM 2014 Abbaye St. Bon Chien
35. BFM 225 Sour Saison
36. Freigeist Quince Gose
37. Reisdorf Kolsch
38. Sierra Nevada Barrel Aged Bigfoot
39. Prairie Bomb
40. Crooked Stave Silly Sybies
41. Crooked Stave Mama Bear's Cherry Pie
42. Crooked Stave L'Brett d'Cherry
43. Trinity Cherry Sour Threads
44. Trinity Chilly Water
45. Tilquin Gueuze
46. Great Divide Barrel Aged Yeti
47. Grimm Bros. Lionheart
48. Brasserie de Blaugies Saison d'Epeautre
49. Firestone Walker Agrestic
50. Firestone Walker Bretta Weisse
51. Firestone Walker 19th Anniversary
52. Drydock Whiskey BA Double Coffee Porter
53. Drydock Whiskey BA Double Vanilla Porter
54. De Struise Brouwers 2008 Rio Reserva
55. De Struise Brouwers 2009 Rio Reserva
56. Nøgne Ø Dark Horizon 3rd Edition
57. Etienne DuPont Pomme Calvados 98
58. Picobrouwerij Alvinne Phi
59. Picobrouwerij Alvinne Wild West
60. Almanac Farmer's Reserve Blueberry
61. Ballast Point Grapefruit Sculpin
62. Firestone Walker PIVO Pils
63. Hill Farmstead Dorothy
64. Perennial 2014 Sump
65. Perennial Abraxas
66. Breakside Safeword
67. Hogshead Barrel Aged Gilpin Black Gold
68. Hogshead Richard Roundtree

wood.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 05, 2016, 10:00:47 am
Disturbing lack of Michigan beers on that list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2016, 10:13:31 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 11:35:18 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 04, 2016, 06:18:59 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 04:08:54 pm
commence drooling
The Sovereign's Draft list  (http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Sovereign%20Draft%20List%202.4.2016.pdf)

yup, wow.  never heard of this place, yet all of a sudden i'm contemplating getting home late tonight...
opening night is Friday...so hope you didn't go tonight

i didn't even think to check that... i assumed that i'm just out of the loop and that this place has been around for some time now.  in the end i didn't end up going.  went home and crushed a Big Bad Baptist instead (tasty but too much coffee). 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 10:17:34 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 05, 2016, 10:13:31 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 11:35:18 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 04, 2016, 06:18:59 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 04:08:54 pm
commence drooling
The Sovereign's Draft list  (http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Sovereign%20Draft%20List%202.4.2016.pdf)

yup, wow.  never heard of this place, yet all of a sudden i'm contemplating getting home late tonight...
opening night is Friday...so hope you didn't go tonight

i didn't even think to check that... i assumed that i'm just out of the loop and that this place has been around for some time now.  in the end i didn't end up going.  went home and crushed a Big Bad Baptist instead (tasty but too much coffee). 
I really hate to say this out loud, but space was right
although I can only imagine it's insanely packed
Funny this place just came out of no where, you'd think with all the Engert fans it would have had a lot more hype before opening

For all these hard to find Belgian drafts, the pricing is not crazy
but what they don't say is 2oz pours :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 10:30:56 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 10:17:34 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 05, 2016, 10:13:31 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 11:35:18 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 04, 2016, 06:18:59 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 04, 2016, 04:08:54 pm
commence drooling
The Sovereign's Draft list  (http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Sovereign%20Draft%20List%202.4.2016.pdf)

yup, wow.  never heard of this place, yet all of a sudden i'm contemplating getting home late tonight...
opening night is Friday...so hope you didn't go tonight

i didn't even think to check that... i assumed that i'm just out of the loop and that this place has been around for some time now.  in the end i didn't end up going.  went home and crushed a Big Bad Baptist instead (tasty but too much coffee). 
I really hate to say this out loud, but space was right
although I can only imagine it's insanely packed
Funny this place just came out of no where, you'd think with all the Engert fans it would have had a lot more hype before opening

For all these hard to find Belgian drafts, the pricing is not crazy
but what they don't say is 2oz pours :)

What are you afraid to say I was right about?

It seems like there are as many Engert haters as there as Engert "fans". I mean, who's going to admit to being a fan of a grown man in his 30's who looks like this?

Perhaps I am just bitter because Churchkey has no happy hour pricing, and Meridian Pint, Smoke and Barrel, and Pizza Paradiso all do.

(http://www.clotureclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/esq-churchkey-bartender-011613-xlg.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 05, 2016, 10:32:58 am
geez..dude looks like he is a courier for Napoleon or something..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 10:38:02 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 10:30:56 am
What are you afraid to say I was right about?
just that it opened yesterday...that's it so far :)


Quote from: hutch on February 05, 2016, 10:32:58 am
geez..dude looks like he is a courier for Napoleon or something..
that's some good stuff
I see my Commma-Shaming worked :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2016, 10:40:40 am
Quote from: hutch on February 05, 2016, 10:32:58 am
geez..dude looks like he is a courier for Napoleon or something..

LOL
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 10:46:02 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 10:38:02 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 10:30:56 am
What are you afraid to say I was right about?
just that it opened yesterday...that's it so far :)


Quote from: hutch on February 05, 2016, 10:32:58 am
geez..dude looks like he is a courier for Napoleon or something..
that's some good stuff
I see my Commma-Shaming worked :)

Eh, that probably just means you've got more interesting/important things going on in your life than knowing the opening date of a bar in Georgetown. Whereas, sadly, I knew the date, even though I had no intention of being there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 05, 2016, 10:51:10 am
True story: I'm 99% certain I own that same sweater.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 10:54:20 am
Quote from: Julian, fantasy COCKGOBBLER on February 05, 2016, 10:51:10 am
True story: I'm 99% certain I own that same sweater.

And I bet you look like a courier for Napoleon Dynamite when you wear it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 05, 2016, 10:55:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 10:54:20 am
Quote from: Julian, fantasy COCKGOBBLER on February 05, 2016, 10:51:10 am
True story: I'm 99% certain I own that same sweater.

And I bet you look like a courier for Napoleon Dynamite when you wear it.
I'm a delight and you know it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 10:56:42 am
(http://i.imgur.com/CAswlhr.png?1)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2016, 10:57:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 10:54:20 am
Quote from: Julian, fantasy COCKGOBBLER on February 05, 2016, 10:51:10 am
True story: I'm 99% certain I own that same sweater.

And I bet you look like a chubby courier for Napoleon Dynamite when you wear it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2016, 11:28:44 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 10:56:42 am
(http://i.imgur.com/CAswlhr.png)

"chaning"?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 11:35:43 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 05, 2016, 11:28:44 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 10:56:42 am
(http://i.imgur.com/CAswlhr.png?1)

"chaning"?
damn...I suck at proofing
I saw a G after beer and I was like, why is that there
now I know
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 11:45:40 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 05, 2016, 11:28:44 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 10:56:42 am
(http://i.imgur.com/CAswlhr.png?1)

"chaning"?

way to ruin a funny moment
splat
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on February 05, 2016, 11:51:46 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/01/29/6-things-to-know-about-the-sovereign-opening-next-week-in-georgetown/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 11:57:59 am
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on February 05, 2016, 11:51:46 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/01/29/6-things-to-know-about-the-sovereign-opening-next-week-in-georgetown/

Ok, fess up. Which of us posted this on the comments section?


DCAtty21

2/1/2016 6:05 PM EST

Just another location from the Flowbee king of overpriced beer and flat-out-douchebaggery. Seriously folks, I don't know why people keep paying for this guys's marked-up offerings. Bring em in - bend em over - send em home drunk and broke.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2016, 12:17:03 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 11:57:59 am
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on February 05, 2016, 11:51:46 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/01/29/6-things-to-know-about-the-sovereign-opening-next-week-in-georgetown/

Ok, fess up. Which of us posted this on the comments section?


DCAtty21

2/1/2016 6:05 PM EST

Just another location from the Flowbee king of overpriced beer and flat-out-douchebaggery. Seriously folks, I don't know why people keep paying for this guys's marked-up offerings. Bring em in - bend em over - send em home drunk and broke.

Sounds like a James Ford post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 05, 2016, 12:18:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 12:17:03 pm
Sounds like a James Ford post.
This was my thought instantly. Exact patter of James Ford snark.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 12:28:42 pm
Quote from: Julian, fantasy COCKGOBBLER on February 05, 2016, 12:18:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 12:17:03 pm
Sounds like a James Ford post.
This was my thought instantly. Exact patter of James Ford snark.

James Ford *wishes* he could take credit for that post. "Flowvee king"? That is classic.

I found another picture of him online in my local piddly little upstate New York newspaper that i grew up reading. He was going back home speaking at a local brewfest. It's so awesome I grew up only 35 miles away from the Flowvee king.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 05, 2016, 12:30:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 12:28:42 pm
"Flowvee king"?
TBH, I don't get that reference.

EDIT: Googled it. It appears to be a misspelling of some sort of "cut your own hair" product?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 12:33:14 pm
isn't it a flowbee?
what is a Flowvee

although this came up
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3BydLgjINjA/mqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 12:39:03 pm
Quote from: Julian, fantasy COCKGOBBLER on February 05, 2016, 12:30:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 12:28:42 pm
"Flowvee king"?
TBH, I don't get that reference.

EDIT: Googled it. It appears to be a misspelling of some sort of "cut your own hair" product?

Sorry, the misspelling was mine. Indeed, James Ford did use "Flowbee" in his WAsPo comment. I too had to google it.

The band I'm going to see Sunday night looks like they use the same product. Heck, at some points even I do. But at least I don't own a jumper like his.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 05, 2016, 12:45:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 12:39:03 pm
But at least I don't own a jumper like his.
That sweater is a delight and you know it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 12:49:03 pm
Quote from: Julian, fantasy COCKGOBBLER on February 05, 2016, 12:45:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 12:39:03 pm
But at least I don't own a jumper like his.
That sweater is a delight and you know it.

Thing is, I probably wore sweaters like that when i was 20. Or at least the thift store version. Now that i'm older, it's more fun to mock sweaters like that than wear them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 01:04:46 pm
so this is what you wear now
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg111/lilmz_2008/565_zps1817c57d.jpg~original)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on February 05, 2016, 02:40:07 pm
I wonder if he has a bedazzler to go with his flowbee
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2016, 04:14:22 pm
Fresh Lunch this weekend breahs.

(http://maddenbeverage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/maine-beer-co-lunch-ipa.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2016, 05:42:29 pm
Fucking losers...

The #Pliny line - Two blocks long in Downtown Santa Rosa. http://twitter.com/ilike_mike/status/695717083166806016/photo/1
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 05:46:42 pm
Quote from: vansmack on February 05, 2016, 05:42:29 pm
Fucking losers...

The #Pliny line - Two blocks long in Downtown Santa Rosa. http://twitter.com/ilike_mike/status/695717083166806016/photo/1

You've never stood in line for anything?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2016, 05:50:13 pm
pliny the younger comes out once a year.  it's worth the wait in line.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 05:51:06 pm
I actually really like pliny and glad I've had the good fortune to get it while in SF (heck they had it at whole foods)
but I wouldn't wait in that line for it

edit - didn't say the younger...yes that was harder to get, but I always managed to get some at toronado when they had it on tap
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2016, 05:52:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 05:51:06 pm
I actually really like pliny and glad I've had the good fortune to get it while in SF (heck they had it at whole foods)
but I wouldn't wait in that line for it

edit - didn't say the younger...yes that was harder to get, but I always managed to get some at toronado when they had it on tap

BUT IS IT PLINY THE YOUNGER??? I THINK NOT SIDEHUTCH.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 05:53:01 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 05:51:06 pm
I actually really like pliny and glad I've had the good fortune to get it while in SF (heck they had it at whole foods)
but I wouldn't wait in that line for it

edit - didn't say the younger...yes that was harder to get, but I always managed to get some at toronado when they had it on tap

I very much doubt they had Pliny the Younger at a Whole Foods. I'm sure it was Pliny the Elder that you had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2016, 05:54:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 05:46:42 pm
You've never stood in line for anything?

Smackie doesn't queue....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 05:58:33 pm
Quote from: vansmack on February 05, 2016, 05:54:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 05:46:42 pm
You've never stood in line for anything?

Smackie doesn't queue....

I share your sentiment, but don't begrudge those who do.

Actually, I once stood in line at Hill Farmstead, but that was because I had already driven a long way into the middle of nowhere to be there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 05:58:40 pm
jezus you guys are just a bunch of nerdy beer twats
I updated my post...as it never said younger in the original
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2016, 05:59:43 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 05:58:40 pm
jezus you guys are just a bunch of nerdy beer twats
I updated my post...as it never said younger in the original

but any beer nerd knows what they're queuing for.... get back to work!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 06:01:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 05:59:43 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 05:58:40 pm
jezus you guys are just a bunch of nerdy beer twats
I updated my post...as it never said younger in the original

but any beer nerd knows what they're queuing for.... get back to work!
yes the twats do
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2016, 06:02:03 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 05:58:33 pm

I share your sentiment, but don't begrudge those who do.

With all the money they save on clothes and shaving supplies,  grease a palm or become friends with somebody who can hook you up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2016, 06:02:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 06:01:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 05:59:43 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 05:58:40 pm
jezus you guys are just a bunch of nerdy beer twats
I updated my post...as it never said younger in the original

but any beer nerd knows what they're queuing for.... get back to work!
yes the twats do

don't be mad @ me.. it's the weekend.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 06:07:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 06:02:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 06:01:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 05:59:43 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 05:58:40 pm
jezus you guys are just a bunch of nerdy beer twats
I updated my post...as it never said younger in the original

but any beer nerd knows what they're queuing for.... get back to work!
yes the twats do

don't be mad @ me.. it's the weekend.


true..you are the one who started with the ALL CAPS

BTW...in a few minutes...I will only have one bomber of my Imperial Stout I lost my ween bet on

We need to meet IRL or I'm going to drink it soon
I think it came out great, but wahdoIknow...I thought people would queue up for the Elder
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2016, 06:11:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 06:07:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 06:02:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 06:01:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 05:59:43 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 05:58:40 pm
jezus you guys are just a bunch of nerdy beer twats
I updated my post...as it never said younger in the original

but any beer nerd knows what they're queuing for.... get back to work!
yes the twats do

don't be mad @ me.. it's the weekend.


true..you are the one who started with the ALL CAPS

BTW...in a few minutes...I will only have one bomber of my Imperial Stout I lost my ween bet on

We need to meet IRL or I'm going to drink it soon
I think it came out great, but wahdoIknow...I thought people would queue up for the Elder

hahah... let's have a date and invite hutch. We'll drink it together.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 06:11:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 06:11:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 06:07:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 06:02:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 06:01:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 05, 2016, 05:59:43 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 05, 2016, 05:58:40 pm
jezus you guys are just a bunch of nerdy beer twats
I updated my post...as it never said younger in the original

but any beer nerd knows what they're queuing for.... get back to work!
yes the twats do

don't be mad @ me.. it's the weekend.


true..you are the one who started with the ALL CAPS

BTW...in a few minutes...I will only have one bomber of my Imperial Stout I lost my ween bet on

We need to meet IRL or I'm going to drink it soon
I think it came out great, but wahdoIknow...I thought people would queue up for the Elder

hahah... let's have a date and invite hutch. We'll drink it together.
Hutch won't touch the dark stuff...although once you go black....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2016, 06:29:10 pm
I am disappointed that it took me 422 pages to realize that the beer thread is actually a gay hook up thread.

Goddammit I'm off my game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 05, 2016, 09:27:42 pm
(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/mariners-fan-catches-ball-in-beer-chugs-beer.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 05, 2016, 09:29:21 pm
(https://www.lovethisgif.com/uploaded_images/2492-couple-kissing-spills-beer.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 05, 2016, 09:33:26 pm
(http://jokideo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Never-liked-beer-so-much-in-my-life-GIF.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 06, 2016, 01:48:32 pm
Quote from: vansmack on February 05, 2016, 05:54:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2016, 05:46:42 pm
You've never stood in line for anything?

Smackie doesn't queue....
My man. . . !
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 07, 2016, 12:51:01 pm
so . . . what's on tap for your super bowl?

mine is as follows,

growler of troegs nugget nectar and a growler of victory 20th anniversary ipa or Deschutes red chair nwpa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 07, 2016, 08:51:56 pm
Craft Check is now available on Android:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.craftcheckapp.craftcheck
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 07, 2016, 10:28:26 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 07, 2016, 12:51:01 pm
so . . . what's on tap for your super bowl?

mine is as follows,

growler of troegs nugget nectar and a growler of victory 20th anniversary ipa or Deschutes red chair nwpa.

Sneaky Pete and The Public.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 07, 2016, 11:03:29 pm
they had yuengling back in stock today...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 08, 2016, 01:40:10 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 07, 2016, 12:51:01 pm
so . . . what's on tap for your super bowl?

mine is as follows,

growler of troegs nugget nectar and a growler of victory 20th anniversary ipa or Deschutes red chair nwpa.

Got a growler of Ocelot Talking Backwards and it further justifies that they might be the best brewery in the DMV right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 08, 2016, 02:39:22 pm
Hit up Aslin Brewing in Herndon yesterday - of you like hazy, hoppy NE style IPAs I'd strongly recommend you check it out
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 08, 2016, 03:05:01 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 08, 2016, 01:40:10 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 07, 2016, 12:51:01 pm
so . . . what's on tap for your super bowl?

mine is as follows,

growler of troegs nugget nectar and a growler of victory 20th anniversary ipa or Deschutes red chair nwpa.

Got a growler of Ocelot Talking Backwards and it further justifies that they might be the best brewery in the DMV right now.

We had planned on going there this past weekend for the specific reason of trying that beer. Didn't make it out, but definitely this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 08, 2016, 03:09:31 pm
Quote from: brennser on February 08, 2016, 02:39:22 pm
Hit up Aslin Brewing in Herndon yesterday - of you like hazy, hoppy NE style IPAs I'd strongly recommend you check it out

Haven't been yet, but have been reading the raves on Beer Advocate about them...will have to make it there soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 08, 2016, 03:53:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 08, 2016, 03:05:01 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 08, 2016, 01:40:10 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 07, 2016, 12:51:01 pm
so . . . what's on tap for your super bowl?

mine is as follows,

growler of troegs nugget nectar and a growler of victory 20th anniversary ipa or Deschutes red chair nwpa.

Got a growler of Ocelot Talking Backwards and it further justifies that they might be the best brewery in the DMV right now.

We had planned on going there this past weekend for the specific reason of trying that beer. Didn't make it out, but definitely this weekend.

It was "sort of" on the way to Great Beginnings, had to make the trip worthwhile  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 08, 2016, 10:05:25 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 07, 2016, 12:51:01 pm
so . . . what's on tap for your super bowl?

mine is as follows,

growler of troegs nugget nectar and a growler of victory 20th anniversary ipa or Deschutes red chair nwpa.

a growler of Victory's Hop Ranch, FW Pivo Pils, and New Belgium Citradelica.  beer was easily better than the game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 09, 2016, 10:13:21 am
Thought I was going to get to invite you guys to join me for this, but alas, I can't make it. Already has everything on the list (except maybe the unlisted bottle pours), but I'd drink some of them again if I had the chance...


(http://assets.fbmta.com/localimages/Messages/00898133/GooseIslandBeerCompany.png)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 09, 2016, 10:18:07 am
There's also a Crooked Stave tap takeover today at Churchkey if sours are more your thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 09, 2016, 02:38:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 09, 2016, 10:13:21 am
Thought I was going to get to invite you guys to join me for this, but alas, I can't make it. Already has everything on the list (except maybe the unlisted bottle pours), but I'd drink some of them again if I had the chance...




"We have several surprises for tonight: #1 @GooseIsland Brewer Di is bringing a small amount of 2015 Proprietor's for bottle pours."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 09, 2016, 02:58:00 pm
Hypeslam starting to hit town.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 09, 2016, 03:06:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 09, 2016, 02:58:00 pm
Hypeslam starting to hit town.
It's from Michigan, I do approve. Supposedly a week from today in RVA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 09, 2016, 08:08:45 pm
More expensive beer coming our way. This from Cascade:

"Exciting news! We are working with distributors to bring Cascade sours to the following states: Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, Washington DC & Wisconsin. We will announce details when we have them!"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 10, 2016, 09:21:13 am
interested in checking out New District Brewing Co, but can't make it out to S. Arlington on a Saturday (but are near DuPont during the week)

Details are thin, but they just posted:
New District Brewing Company

New District Nation - Cove is hosting us at their South Dupont location on tomorrow, February 11. We're very excited to check out their space and serve some brews.


Cove is temp workspaces...not sure what it has to do with beer?
Not sure if the beer is free since it's not a bar??


Related...I had their Chocolate Pilsner...meh.  But "the first time' imperial porter was very good.  Also, the lines are finally bearable (first 3 Saturdays it was a 45 min wait to get a beer)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 10, 2016, 10:40:51 am
maybe it was a good thing i couldn't make it out last night... between the meridian and CK, i would have gone home a lot poorer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 12, 2016, 09:59:08 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12715355_946270028782279_3471462315826743695_n.jpg?oh=d2917ee37ec090b91f70cc6b4e25fdf7&oe=5735C4D9)

also got a 6er of these last night and quite enjoyed it (although $18 w/tax was a little steep)

(http://www.arrogantbastard.com/bourbon/BBAAB_6packBottle.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 10:14:03 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 10, 2016, 10:40:51 am
maybe it was a good thing i couldn't make it out last night... between the meridian and CK, i would have gone home a lot poorer.

The same night, GBD had this happy hour:

$3 - @UnionBrewing Double Duckpin
$4 - @StoneBrewingCo Enjoy By 2.14.16
$5 - @StBernardus1 St. Bernardus ABT 12
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 12, 2016, 10:35:23 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 09, 2016, 02:58:00 pm
Hypeslam starting to hit town.


Cans only this year. Split a case with a buddy  ($62).  Bottling date 1/28/16.  It's excellent!  Worth the hype this year IMHO.  Gets better as it warms.  No syrupy sweet presence like last couple years....and the buzz....  It's more like the feel after a session with hop's cousin than your typical DIPA head.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 10:50:45 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 08, 2016, 01:40:10 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 07, 2016, 12:51:01 pm
so . . . what's on tap for your super bowl?

mine is as follows,

growler of troegs nugget nectar and a growler of victory 20th anniversary ipa or Deschutes red chair nwpa.

Got a growler of Ocelot Talking Backwards and it further justifies that they might be the best brewery in the DMV right now.

Had a serving of this beer at Smoke and Barrel Wed night. Motherfucker is the real deal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 12, 2016, 11:04:58 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 10:50:45 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 08, 2016, 01:40:10 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 07, 2016, 12:51:01 pm
so . . . what's on tap for your super bowl?

mine is as follows,

growler of troegs nugget nectar and a growler of victory 20th anniversary ipa or Deschutes red chair nwpa.

Got a growler of Ocelot Talking Backwards and it further justifies that they might be the best brewery in the DMV right now.

Had a serving of this beer at Smoke and Barrel Wed night. Motherfucker is the real deal.

It's already been said, but yeah... this beer is outstanding. Those Aslin beers are just as good as this, if not better... one of the only times in my life I wished I lived out on 66 somewhere. I'd be hitting that brewery up weekly for fresh fills! It's about time the DC area starts putting out beers that can compete with the NE hops. I can only hope the quality control keeps these beers in check.

Sidehutch, hop on your bike immediately and get out there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 12, 2016, 11:06:50 am
Quote from: Bagley on February 12, 2016, 10:35:23 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 09, 2016, 02:58:00 pm
Hypeslam starting to hit town.


Cans only this year. Split a case with a buddy  ($62).  Bottling date 1/28/16.  It's excellent!  Worth the hype this year IMHO.  Gets better as it warms.  No syrupy sweet presence like last couple years....and the buzz....  It's more like the feel after a session with hop's cousin than your typical DIPA head.

I highly doubt I'll even try hopslam this year, nor does it even come close the flavor profile I enjoy anymore. I was pretty excited to have some fresh Lunch in my fridge, but my pallet has been taken over by beers with that tropical juice bomb feeling. Ahh yeah, brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 12, 2016, 11:19:13 am
Quote from: Yada on February 12, 2016, 11:04:58 am

SideCLutch, hop on your bike immediately and get out there.

waaaay too cold right now, but Aslin Beer Company, Old Ox, and Beltway are right on the trail
so this spring I'll be strapping one of these on my seat
(http://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Leather-Beer-Growler-Bike-Carrier-1.jpg)

although might just need to upgrade to this bike
(http://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Growler-City-Bicycle-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on February 12, 2016, 12:25:42 pm
I went to Aslin and Ocelot last weekend. I liked the current IPAs at Aslin a little more than Ocelot, but both excellent. I also checked out the Sovereign this week and had a Lou Pepe Kriek. Their bottle list is amazing. They limit the rare stuff to 1 bottle per group. It would have been a very expensive trip otherwise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 03:44:16 pm
Beltway Brewing in Sterling is having a tap takeover by Grimm (from Brooklyn) this weekend, if that means anything to any of you.

https://twitter.com/BeltwayBrewCo/status/697141996159397889

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 12, 2016, 05:02:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 03:44:16 pm
Beltway Brewing in Sterling is having a tap takeover by Grimm (from Brooklyn) this weekend, if that means anything to any of you.

https://twitter.com/BeltwayBrewCo/status/697141996159397889




I hope you were wearing a diaper when you read those per ounce prices.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 05:18:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 12, 2016, 05:02:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 03:44:16 pm
Beltway Brewing in Sterling is having a tap takeover by Grimm (from Brooklyn) this weekend, if that means anything to any of you.

https://twitter.com/BeltwayBrewCo/status/697141996159397889




I hope you were wearing a diaper when you read those per ounce prices.

I didn't see prices. Can't make it out that way Fri or Sat anyway.

Hoping to hit Aslin for the first time Sunday. Hope they still have their IPA's flowing. Perfect Valentine refreshment for my hophead wife.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 12, 2016, 05:25:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 12, 2016, 05:02:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 03:44:16 pm
Beltway Brewing in Sterling is having a tap takeover by Grimm (from Brooklyn) this weekend, if that means anything to any of you.

https://twitter.com/BeltwayBrewCo/status/697141996159397889


I hope you were wearing a diaper when you read those per ounce prices.
not crazy IMO, but I have heard great things about that brewery
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12717746_971261096300939_6323854940759979884_n.jpg?oh=dcd737644d052b66434dd35effdc5ee6&oe=5723CF6D)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 05:35:00 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 12, 2016, 05:25:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 12, 2016, 05:02:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 03:44:16 pm
Beltway Brewing in Sterling is having a tap takeover by Grimm (from Brooklyn) this weekend, if that means anything to any of you.

https://twitter.com/BeltwayBrewCo/status/697141996159397889


I hope you were wearing a diaper when you read those per ounce prices.
not crazy IMO, but I have heard great things about that brewery
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12717746_971261096300939_6323854940759979884_n.jpg?oh=dcd737644d052b66434dd35effdc5ee6&oe=5723CF6D)



Pricey compared to Ocelot

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12715334_362500490540824_5301124990190706768_n.jpg?oh=18bfc55762386c2d7894311c5dd06315&oe=5723840D)

I think I may prefer the amazing artfully rendered beer board at Aslin

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12715766_642400155899410_1393085055267086505_n.jpg?oh=3c85c1fd3376730c358bdcbefdb80212&oe=576CADC2)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 12, 2016, 05:35:35 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 12, 2016, 05:25:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 12, 2016, 05:02:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 03:44:16 pm
Beltway Brewing in Sterling is having a tap takeover by Grimm (from Brooklyn) this weekend, if that means anything to any of you.

https://twitter.com/BeltwayBrewCo/status/697141996159397889


I hope you were wearing a diaper when you read those per ounce prices.
not crazy IMO, but I have heard great things about that brewery
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12717746_971261096300939_6323854940759979884_n.jpg?oh=dcd737644d052b66434dd35effdc5ee6&oe=5723CF6D)



The cheapest growler fill at $31 does not make Space or me for that matter happy. I won't be partaking and was considering it.

Space, I saw Aslin posting about their DIPAs running low the other day, i'm guessing they won't be around Sunday (unless they brewed another one).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 05:44:21 pm
Yup, saw that post about their DIPA's running low. I was planning on calling ahead and seeing what was left.

Dominion also has Mind the Hop for growler fills now, but that may be gone by the time i can get there (tomorrow morning). I'd prefer to go the flight/pint route at the brewery though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 12, 2016, 05:46:11 pm
trust me I'm not running out there to get a fill either
but 7-10 for a tulip is pretty standard (still freaking expensive tho)
Wasn't looking at the growler pricing

but I will say that the Ocelot Talking Backwards $20 fill is quite a good deal per oz
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/t31.0-8/12698540_362500490540824_5301124990190706768_o.jpg)

Do you know anywhere inside the beltway that does growler fills of TB?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 12, 2016, 05:51:27 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 12, 2016, 05:46:11 pm
trust me I'm not running out there to get a fill either
but 7-10 for a tulip is pretty standard (still freaking expensive tho)
Wasn't looking at the growler pricing

but I will say that the Ocelot Talking Backwards $20 fill is quite a good deal per oz
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/t31.0-8/12698540_362500490540824_5301124990190706768_o.jpg)

Do you know anywhere inside the beltway that does growler fills of TB?

Negative... a few bars had/have it on tap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 12, 2016, 06:08:53 pm
Just because $7-$10 may be standard for a tulip at a Greg Engert establishment in a trendy spot in DC doesn't mean it should be that price at a warehouse in Loudoun County.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 12, 2016, 06:18:49 pm
I am diversifying and having a six pack of Brooklyn Lager..


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on February 13, 2016, 05:59:26 am
I love Ocelot...I go there all the time. I finally hit up Adroit Theory recently as well. That place is pretty cool too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 16, 2016, 11:44:27 am
Quote from: hutch on February 12, 2016, 06:18:49 pm
I am diversifying and having a six pack of Brooklyn Lager..




Have you tried Victory Prima Pils or Devil's Backbone Vienna Lager? Seems like they might be up your alley.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 16, 2016, 11:47:02 am
Quote from: Yada on February 12, 2016, 05:35:35 pm


Space, I saw Aslin posting about their DIPAs running low the other day, i'm guessing they won't be around Sunday (unless they brewed another one).



Indeed the Aslin IPA's were gone by Sunday, we did not go.

I did get a growler of Aslin's Mind the Hops at Dominion on Saturday. I thought it was fantastic, perhaps the best DMV made beer I've had. My wife was a bit underwhelmed...I think she's just more of a fan of the dank West Coast IPA style than she is the juicy New England style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2016, 07:56:48 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/1782312_364191043705102_2481490154813972540_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 17, 2016, 10:18:15 pm
Is the pineapple sculpin worth a taste?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2016, 12:21:29 pm
Quote from: jaded on February 17, 2016, 10:18:15 pm
Is the pineapple sculpin worth a taste?
interesting...but odd. I wouldn't pay for it again
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2016, 12:21:46 pm
calories in craft beer... (http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/calories-in-craft-beer/)
man these imperials stouts I love are going to make me fat
6oz is 500 Cals!
(http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/beer-cals-snacks-500x378.jpg)

(http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cal-chart.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 12:24:20 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 19, 2016, 12:21:46 pm
calories in craft beer... (http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/calories-in-craft-beer/)
man these imperials stouts I love are going to make me fat
6oz is 500 Cals!
(http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/beer-cals-snacks-500x378.jpg)

(http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cal-chart.jpg)

Jesus... I've been trying to cut out drinking during the week a bit due to this chart right here. My god.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 19, 2016, 12:25:55 pm
I dont' get it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 19, 2016, 12:27:14 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 19, 2016, 12:21:46 pm
man these imperials stouts I love are going to make me fat
6oz is 500 Cals!

Um, that chart seems to contradict the examples. A 6oz pour of a 15% ABV beer is listed at 225. Unless that The Bruery's Barrel Aged Imperial Stout is 40% ABV, their graphic is wrong that 6oz of it is 500 calories.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 19, 2016, 12:30:24 pm
Sidehatch made the chart! Thats why it makes no sense!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2016, 12:33:00 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 19, 2016, 12:30:24 pm
Sidehatch made the chart! Thats why it makes no sense!


ouch
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Savor Brewery List...

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 01:35:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Savor Brewery List...

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/

I saw that list previously and all i have to say is they need to drop the lottery system and get more selective.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 01:37:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 12:24:20 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 19, 2016, 12:21:46 pm
calories in craft beer... (http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/calories-in-craft-beer/)
man these imperials stouts I love are going to make me fat
6oz is 500 Cals!
(http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/beer-cals-snacks-500x378.jpg)

(http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cal-chart.jpg)

Jesus... I've been trying to cut out drinking during the week a bit due to this chart right here. My god.

I'll just continue to cut out Starbucks, Oreos, and McDonalds. On weekends, too. And start training for another marathon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 02:48:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 01:35:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Savor Brewery List...

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/

I saw that list previously and all i have to say is they need to drop the lottery system and get more selective.

I think it's exciting... I hadn't heard of half the breweries last year and ended up with a bunch of new favorites.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 03:06:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 02:48:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 01:35:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Savor Brewery List...

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/

I saw that list previously and all i have to say is they need to drop the lottery system and get more selective.

I think it's exciting... I hadn't heard of half the breweries last year and ended up with a bunch of new favorites.



I'm not really a SAvor person, I'm just repeating what someone on Beer Advocate forums said. They were commenting that this year's crop isn't nearly up to par with previous years, and perhaps the reason is that they select breweries via some kind of lotter system rather than based on some other way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 03:14:44 pm
Ab-Inbev just bought the Goose Island Brewpub in Chicago. That had previously not been included in the sale of the brewery. Goose Island Brewpub remained a separate entity.

While this story is interesting on some levels, particularly as someone who goes to Chicago once a year....what I really found interesting is that the President of Goose Island is named Ken Stout. Fitting, as their head brewer is named Brett Porter.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/ct-goose-island-sells-original-brewpub-to-anheuserbusch-20160219-story.html

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 03:16:27 pm
fart sound is farting in his grave.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/ct-goose-island-sells-original-brewpub-to-anheuserbusch-20160219-story.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 03:46:47 pm
just got, dc brau on the wings of Armageddon, in growler form.  tasted it for the first time.  excellent.  $18, growler refill.  downing it tonight so I can go get more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 19, 2016, 03:50:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 03:16:27 pm
fart sound is farting in his grave.
In death, he is, as he lived,
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 03:54:54 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 03:46:47 pm
just got, dc brau on the wings of Armageddon, in growler form.  tasted it for the first time.  excellent.  $18, growler refill.  downing it tonight so I can go get more.

walky, you have so many good breweries out your way, why are you buying that slop?

I propose brewery tour and bbq at Walky,s after. Sidehutch will drive the bus.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 03:59:24 pm
I do?  the only brewery I know of near me is this

http://www.backroombreweryva.com/

brothers, is a good hour from me.

my yard is great for bbqs!  I have a wonderful chalet home, wrap around deck, on 3 acres with a pond and incredible mountain views!  plus the bobcats can come down from the national forest and let you pet them.  just kidding . . . they will eat you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 04:04:19 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 03:59:24 pm
I do?  the only brewery I know of near me is this

http://www.backroombreweryva.com/

brothers, is a good hour from me.

my yard is great for bbqs!  I have a wonderful chalet home, wrap around deck, on 3 acres with a pond and incredible mountain views!  plus the bobcats can come down from the national forest and let you pet them.  just kidding . . . they will eat you.

I can't recall where you live, but don't you live close to Herndon/Reston/Chantilly/Lessburg/etc.etc.etc.

If not, disregard previous post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:07:13 pm
no, I live in the national forest / mountains of the Shenandoah valley, near a town called Woodstock. 

you couldn't pay me to live close to northern Virginia.  I went to George mason, and that was fucking enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 04:14:33 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:07:13 pm
no, I live in the national forest / mountains of the Shenandoah valley, near a town called Woodstock. 

you couldn't pay me to live close to northern Virginia.  I went to George mason, and that was fucking enough.

gotcha... looks nice. That's a long haul for beer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:16:44 pm
there is a wonderful beer store, in my area, in a "city" called Winchester.  I know, I know, city is a laughable term for Winchester, but hey, we take what we can out here.  They have a killer selection on tap for growler refills and their bottle selection destroys anything else out here.  plus, they just got hopslam in cans today.  it is about 30 minutes from my house.  I love it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 19, 2016, 04:18:20 pm
I guess Stone Brewery in Richmond had their soft-opening of their new facilities this afternoon. . .
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 19, 2016, 04:33:33 pm
Thats pretty country over there.  I've had occasion to visit orkney springs and breathe clean air.  I was only really bothered by all the confederate flags and gun racks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 04:34:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 19, 2016, 04:18:20 pm
I guess Stone Brewery in Richmond had their soft-opening of their new facilities this afternoon. . .

Looks like the brewery itself won't be brewing beer until June/July, and the brewpub won't open for another couple years...

Any word on the street when the Veil will open?

I also saw that the Answer is expanding...great...we'll have even more space to ourselves the next time we're there. Been there twice, huge space, amazing beer (theirs and others), but completely empty both times.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 04:38:16 pm
Quote from: jaded on February 19, 2016, 04:33:33 pm
Thats pretty country over there.  I've had occasion to visit orkney springs and breathe clean air.  I was only really bothered by all the confederate flags and gun racks.

Are you black? Did someone try to shoot out your tires? You sound like an ignorant moron.

That's like someone saying they went to DC and were bothered by all the rainbow flags and black people wearing baggy pants (that might be concealing a weapon).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:40:27 pm
uhmm, there are a lot of gun racks and confederate flags out here.  the county I live in is the most racist / homophobic area around here.  the delegate of my county, todd gilbert, introduced the new Virginia "Kim Davis" bill.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 19, 2016, 04:42:35 pm
thank you walkie for your honesty yeah your honesty.. some people like to believe in the power of music..but endless crompromises shatter the illusion of integrity..YEAH.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 04:45:38 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:40:27 pm
uhmm, there are a lot of gun racks and confederate flags out here.  the county I live in is the most racist / homophobic area around here.  the delegate of my county, todd gilbert, introduced the new Virginia "Kim Davis" bill.

Was there a Virginia county by county analysis done on racism and homophobia levels? Post the link, I'd love to read that one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:51:45 pm
You're so, delightful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2016, 04:54:04 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:51:45 pm
You're so, delightful.
I know space ....it's Friday please just post a photo of a cat and give it a rest
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 04:56:49 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:51:45 pm
You're so, delightful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 19, 2016, 04:58:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 04:34:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 19, 2016, 04:18:20 pm
I guess Stone Brewery in Richmond had their soft-opening of their new facilities this afternoon. . .

Looks like the brewery itself won't be brewing beer until June/July, and the brewpub won't open for another couple years...

Any word on the street when the Veil will open?

I also saw that the Answer is expanding...great...we'll have even more space to ourselves the next time we're there. Been there twice, huge space, amazing beer (theirs and others), but completely empty both times.
They're saying "brewed in RVA" beer by May, apparently. Yes, its just the tasting room that's open.

I can ask someone more in the know re: Veil.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 19, 2016, 05:02:54 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:16:44 pm
there is a wonderful beer store, in my area, in a "city" called Winchester.  I know, I know, city is a laughable term for Winchester, but hey, we take what we can out here.  They have a killer selection on tap for growler refills and their bottle selection destroys anything else out here.  plus, they just got hopslam in cans today.  it is about 30 minutes from my house.  I love it.


Haters, here ya go.....hypeslam or otherwise......give the Hopslam a try.  Just let it warm a bit.  Good stuff this year.  I think the cans made a difference.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 05:05:08 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 19, 2016, 05:02:54 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:16:44 pm
there is a wonderful beer store, in my area, in a "city" called Winchester.  I know, I know, city is a laughable term for Winchester, but hey, we take what we can out here.  They have a killer selection on tap for growler refills and their bottle selection destroys anything else out here.  plus, they just got hopslam in cans today.  it is about 30 minutes from my house.  I love it.


Haters, here ya go.....hypeslam or otherwise......give the Hopslam a try.  Just let it warm a bit.  Good stuff this year.  I think the cans made a difference.

I drank it over the weekend... in no way a bad beer and actually tasted a bit better than previous years, but the malty/booziness just doesn't hold a candle to the #juicebombs I enjoy now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 05:08:33 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 19, 2016, 04:54:04 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:51:45 pm
You're so, delightful.
I know space ....it's Friday please just post a photo of a cat and give it a rest

I hate cats, and I hate Hopslam. I love dogs, Ocelot, and Aslin.

My wife just grabbed me  a couple of four packs of Weyerbacher Sunday Morning Stout. That should last a couple of years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 05:10:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 05:08:33 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 19, 2016, 04:54:04 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:51:45 pm
You're so, delightful.
I know space ....it's Friday please just post a photo of a cat and give it a rest

I hate cats, and I hate Hopslam. I love dogs, Ocelot, and Aslin.

My wife just grabbed me  a couple of four packs of Weyerbacher Sunday Morning Stout. That should last a couple of years.

Some beer snob I know was saying that last year's bottles taste like shit (which kind of sucks because I have probably a half of a case). Maybe I'll drink one tonight... I've posted too much today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 05:19:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 05:10:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 05:08:33 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 19, 2016, 04:54:04 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:51:45 pm
You're so, delightful.
I know space ....it's Friday please just post a photo of a cat and give it a rest

I hate cats, and I hate Hopslam. I love dogs, Ocelot, and Aslin.

My wife just grabbed me  a couple of four packs of Weyerbacher Sunday Morning Stout. That should last a couple of years.

Some beer snob I know was saying that last year's bottles taste like shit (which kind of sucks because I have probably a half of a case). Maybe I'll drink one tonight... I've posted too much today.

hope not...i still have three or four from last year. Not sure why i had her buy eight and not just four. i guess I'm just thinking ahead since i plan to buy very little BCBS in the new format and since KBS is always a crapshoot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 19, 2016, 05:20:29 pm

I drank it over the weekend... in no way a bad beer and actually tasted a bit better than previous years, but the malty/booziness just doesn't hold a candle to the #juicebombs I enjoy now.
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That's why I like the Slam.  I'm not big on the syrupy, boozy taste.  Hopslam, like the Alpha Domina Mellis, is nice and crispy clean and hides the alcohol well.

Space-unfortunately, at this point, last year's bottles need to be tossed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 19, 2016, 05:23:09 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 19, 2016, 05:20:29 pm

I drank it over the weekend... in no way a bad beer and actually tasted a bit better than previous years, but the malty/booziness just doesn't hold a candle to the #juicebombs I enjoy now.

That's why I like the Slam.  I'm not big on the syrupy, boozy taste.  Hopslam, like the Alpha Domina Mellis, is nice and crispy clean and hides the alcohol well.

Space-unfortunately, at this point, last year's bottles need to be tossed.
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no way Space will toss them...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 05:36:13 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 19, 2016, 05:20:29 pm

I drank it over the weekend... in no way a bad beer and actually tasted a bit better than previous years, but the malty/booziness just doesn't hold a candle to the #juicebombs I enjoy now.

That's why I like the Slam.  I'm not big on the syrupy, boozy taste.  Hopslam, like the Alpha Domina Mellis, is nice and crispy clean and hides the alcohol well.

Space-unfortunately, at this point, last year's bottles need to be tossed.
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I was referring to last year's Sunday Morning Stout. It has an expiration date of 3/12/17 on it.
I didn't buy any Hopslam this year or last.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2016, 05:37:55 pm
Bagley, I think we have very different pallets if you think Hopslam is crispy and not boozy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2016, 05:38:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 05:10:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 05:08:33 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 19, 2016, 04:54:04 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 04:51:45 pm
You're so, delightful.
I know space ....it's Friday please just post a photo of a cat and give it a rest

I hate cats, and I hate Hopslam. I love dogs, Ocelot, and Aslin.

My wife just grabbed me  a couple of four packs of Weyerbacher Sunday Morning Stout. That should last a couple of years.

Some beer snob I know was saying that last year's bottles taste like shit (which kind of sucks because I have probably a half of a case). Maybe I'll drink one tonight... I've posted too much today.
will gladly take the ones you don't want
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 19, 2016, 10:05:41 pm
I drank too much of this beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 10:20:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 05:37:55 pm
Bagley, I think we have very different pallets if you think Hopslam is crispy and not boozy.

I agree with you about the Hopslam, but he's right about the ADM.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: bob72 on February 20, 2016, 03:31:53 pm
I'm currently enjoying a Lubitsch Touch @ Right Proper. Next on the list a Soul Revolution
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 20, 2016, 05:33:51 pm
Quote from: bob72 on February 20, 2016, 03:31:53 pm
I'm currently enjoying a Lubitsch Touch @ Right Proper. Next on the list a Soul Revolution

Thumbs up on the former, haven't had the latter...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 20, 2016, 06:07:14 pm
We happened to be inthe neighborhood, so stopped by Mad Fox Barleywine FEstival today. Nothing too rare or spectacular, but our favorites were:

Hebrew Funky Jewbellation
Weyerbacher Insanity
Duclaw Hell on Wood
Hebrew Jewbellation
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 21, 2016, 07:19:05 pm
so I had the dc brau on the wings of whatever, and I must say it was ok to good, but not mind blowing.  when I went back to my locale beer shoppe, I got one of the last growlers of nugget nectar instead.  a local place in my area is getting one keg of hopslam on tab because they have gone through so many beer kegs in a certain amount of time.  so, that is how, it works.  cant wait to try it.  not sure I have had it in draft form.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 21, 2016, 08:54:01 pm
yuengling case at BJs up again this week.. now $17.49... for those keeping count that is a $1 per case increase in the past 2 weeks....


shits getting crazee...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 21, 2016, 10:25:07 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 21, 2016, 08:54:01 pm
yuengling case at BJs up again this week.. now $17.49... for those keeping count that is a $1 per case increase in the past 2 weeks....


shits getting crazee...

Indeed it is. I just spent more than that for a single bottle of beer, called SHIT. FTR, I'm not proud of my purchase, it was an impulse buy.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYiiDb4UMAA1N_D.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on February 22, 2016, 04:48:29 am
That looks tasty. Bruary beers are always expensive. If you see a bottle for under $9.99 from them its probably no good honestly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 22, 2016, 10:43:41 am
i had a maryland beer weekend, without necessarily planning to do so.  had:
- flying dog the truth (still solid)
- du claw retribution (was aged a few years, excellent bourbon barrel-aged RIS)
- union double duckpin (maybe a hint more malty that i might chose, but amazing citrus hop character at a decent price)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 22, 2016, 11:10:01 am
I guess I am poor but beer is just getting too expensive for me...I'd rather buy a record with my monies..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2016, 11:18:24 am
Quote from: hutch on February 22, 2016, 11:10:01 am
I guess I am poor but beer is just getting too expensive for me...I'd rather buy a record with my monies..
So after an investment of around $75
You could brew your own for about $14 a case (in a similar profile of yuengling)
well there is about 6 hours of labor to save $6 total might not be worth it
but you'd have the pride to know you brewed your own and the man can stick it with his expensive beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 22, 2016, 11:19:07 am
Quote from: hutch on February 22, 2016, 11:10:01 am
I guess I am poor but beer is just getting too expensive for me...I'd rather buy a record with my monies..

An occasional expensive bottle of beer is really my only big splurge in life...and even then you're talking about a $20-$25 bottle of beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 22, 2016, 11:29:27 am
yes I understand.. I think i'm a lower grade/higher amount of beer consumer..
still it is remarkable.. even look at wine prices compared to beer prices.. they just have not/are not increasing at the same pace..

but I still want to participate in this thread..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 22, 2016, 12:08:59 pm
my favorite beer of the weekend.


(https://www.oskarblues.com/assets/sections/dbc/beer.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 22, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
My favorite beer on the weekend was Stone Enjoy By 2/14 Unfilted. It was after 2/14 but still tasted great.

Also, the Sierra Nevada Otra Vez Gose....not mouth puckering like Westbrook or even the two Anderson Valley goses...but paired very well with the key lime pie my wife made.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 22, 2016, 12:22:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 22, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
My favorite beer on the weekend was Stone Enjoy By 2/14 Unfilted. It was after 2/14 but still tasted great.

Also, the Sierra Nevada Otra Vez Gose....not mouth puckering like Westbrook or even the two Anderson Valley goses...but paired very well with the key lime pie my wife made.

I liked that Otra Vez as well...

I also drank a Kirsch Gose followed by a Anderson Valley Blood Orange Gose and it didn't hold a candle to the Kirsch Gose IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2016, 12:26:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 22, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
Westbrook or even the two Anderson Valley goses...
I'm going to have to agree with your assement of the deliciousness of Westbrook's gose
I've had a few over the last few months and almost every time I've been like "this really isn't as good as that westbrook one"

edit: have not tried Kirsch Gose ....so that's next

New District taped their new IPA ones and zeros and I thought it was a really good pour
(http://i2.wp.com/www.newdistrictbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/ones_and_zeros.jpg?resize=773%2C1024)

Their oatmeal stout was meh to yuck
But that imperial stout is the naz IMO

They are increasing capacity there and now adding Friday hours (they were only open 12-10 on Saturday)

Although with my budget constraints in 2016...not sure I can keep getting 10oz pour for $9.61 (after tax, before tip!)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 22, 2016, 12:34:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 22, 2016, 12:22:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 22, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
My favorite beer on the weekend was Stone Enjoy By 2/14 Unfilted. It was after 2/14 but still tasted great.

Also, the Sierra Nevada Otra Vez Gose....not mouth puckering like Westbrook or even the two Anderson Valley goses...but paired very well with the key lime pie my wife made.

I liked that Otra Vez as well...

I also drank a Kirsch Gose followed by a Anderson Valley Blood Orange Gose and it didn't hold a candle to the Kirsch Gose IMO.

Looking forward to the Kirsch Gose later this Spring. I want to try it side by side with the Ommegang Rosetta. Maybe underneath the cherry blossoms (if the Kirsch Gose is available by then).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2016, 01:53:44 pm
Curious if anyone has been to the Brew Shop in Arlington
I thought it was going to be just Homebrew Supplies...but thankfully a lot more
just read this write up (http://www.arlingtonmagazine.com/Home-Plate-Food-Blog/The-Brew-Shop-Slings-Craft-Brews-Supplies-in-Arlington/)
http://www.arlbrew.com/

they have growler fils too...don't list price
DC Brau Alpha Domina Melllis Double IPA -
Alewerks Shorty Time Session IPA -
Hardywood Raspberry Stout -
Three Notch'd Jack's Java Espresso Stout -
Port City Colossal V -
Old Ox Brewery Saison D'Ox -
Escutcheon Brewing John Riggins 4th and 1 Pilsner -
Adroit Theory We Want You Soul Belgian IPA -

From this post on twitter...looking like good price on the growler fills
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cbsfc9wUAAAeY6L.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on February 23, 2016, 05:39:20 am
Kirsch Gose really is great, I can't wait to have it again. I love that Anderson Valley Blood Orange Gose too. I must have bought 5 sixers of it. That stuff was like crack to me. The Sierra Nevada Gose sounds interesting, I have not seen it anywhere yet but was not really looking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 23, 2016, 10:28:57 am
Mighty nice draft list here. Bet at least a few of them will be leftover for the all draft $4 Happy Hour on Monday.

FIRESTONE TAP TAKEOVER AT GEORGETOWN ON FEBRUARY 27
Saturday, February 27, 2016
11:30am 11:00pm 11:30 23:00
?   Pizzeria Paradiso Georgetown3282 M St NW Washington, DC United States
Draft List
?   Firestone Walker Velvet Merkin
?   FIrestone Walker Helldorado
?   Firestone Walker XVIIII
?   Firestone Walker Velvet Merlin
?   Firestone Walker XVII
?   Firestone Double DBA
?   Firestone Sucuba
?   Firestone XVI
?   Firestone Walker Stickee Monkee
?   2 different Firestone Walker Barrelworks Series beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2016, 12:34:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 23, 2016, 10:28:57 am
Mighty nice draft list here. Bet at least a few of them will be leftover for the all draft $4 Happy Hour on Monday.

FIRESTONE TAP TAKEOVER AT GEORGETOWN ON FEBRUARY 27
Saturday, February 27, 2016
11:30am 11:00pm 11:30 23:00
?   Pizzeria Paradiso Georgetown3282 M St NW Washington, DC United States
Draft List
?   Firestone Walker Velvet Merkin
?   FIrestone Walker Helldorado
?   Firestone Walker XVIIII
?   Firestone Walker Velvet Merlin
?   Firestone Walker XVII
?   Firestone Double DBA
?   Firestone Sucuba
?   Firestone XVI
?   Firestone Walker Stickee Monkee
?   2 different Firestone Walker Barrelworks Series beers

Too many beer events, not enough free time.

A keg of cantillon gueuze was tapped at The Sovereign last night and on the date before this event listed above, there's a Jester King event at The Black Squirrel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on February 23, 2016, 01:05:37 pm
do you think that you spend too much money on beer anything?  all you do, or buy, that involves beer?  sometimes, I think I do, and I wonder if it just better to be happy with food lion cases of something like sierra or red stripe or sam adams or becks or star hill or devils backbone?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2016, 01:06:39 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 23, 2016, 01:05:37 pm
do you think that you spend too much money on beer anything?  all you do, or buy, that involves beer?  sometimes, I think I do, and I wonder if it just better to be happy with food lion cases of something like sierra or red stripe or sam adams or becks or star hill or devils backbone?

not really.... I don't spend much money on anything other than beer, music, and food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 23, 2016, 01:13:14 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on February 23, 2016, 01:05:37 pm
do you think that you spend too much money on beer anything?  all you do, or buy, that involves beer?  sometimes, I think I do, and I wonder if it just better to be happy with food lion cases of something like sierra or red stripe or sam adams or becks or star hill or devils backbone?

I do spend too much money on beer.

Yes, I do think I could be reasonably happy just drinking the standard line of Sierra Nevada products (but not the others you list).

But my beer buying is not so excessive that it prevents me from affording things i actually need.

The end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2016, 01:19:43 pm
what were the beer bars/breweries to hit in Richmond?
Friend was asking and I know a few places were namedropped here
Stone isn't on line yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 23, 2016, 01:22:33 pm
warning: the following announcement is unlikely to interest more than one or two people here ;D

the National Homebrewers Conference (HomebrewCon) will take place in Baltimore from thursday june 9 to saturday june 11.  i cannot recommend strongly enough that homebrewers attend this.  hell, non-homebrewers might want to attend as a cheap beer-cation.  homebrewed and commerical beer is flowing all day and most of the night, great seminars, vendor exhibits with tons of samples/giveaways, evening events, amazing after-parties (for the really hardy), blah blah... this will be my third time attending.  last year i flew out to san diego for it so it's a treat to be local this year.  unlikely that it will be this close again for another decade.

http://www.homebrewcon.org/
registration opens on march 8: http://www.homebrewcon.org/registration/details/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 23, 2016, 01:49:54 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 23, 2016, 01:19:43 pm
what were the beer bars/breweries to hit in Richmond?
Friend was asking and I know a few places were namedropped here
Stone isn't on line yet?

Best place to drink beer (and eat Vietnamese, imo) is Mekong. And it's sister establishment, the Answer Brewpub. Mekong has a draft list that's as good as, or better than Churchkey. At like half the cost. The Answer also has a fantastic draft list, inclusing their own beers, andis making IPA's as good as or better than Ocelot and Aslin. They're next door to each other in a nondescript strip mall, so you can hit them both.

If friend is willing to drive out of the way a bit, Lickinghole Creek, in Goochland is great. Farmhouse style brewery, really nice to hang out outside on a good weather day. Solid beers all around.

Triple Crossing, downtown, makes some really good IPA's.

I've always found their beers underwhelming, but others swear by Hardywood. A boisterous scene on a Saturday afternoon, with live music and a plethora of fat chicks.

There are others, but those are the ones I picked after doing my homework.

The Stone taproom opens March 3. Just had their soft opening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 23, 2016, 01:57:28 pm
 Exactly what Rhett said but add strangeways to your list. Licking hole Creek in strange ways are the serious beer drinkers breweries in town and hearty what is basically place you go see bands play.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2016, 02:00:11 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 23, 2016, 01:22:33 pm
warning: the following announcement is unlikely to interest more than one or two people here ;D
I've been thinking of starting a homebrew thread...but now we lost the Wizzing Fart ...it'd probably just be me an you....

are their any other homebrewers on the list



Thanks for the RVA beer recos too!
I knew I'd get a quick, but detailed answer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 24, 2016, 12:20:52 pm
I tried the Bell's Expedition Stout (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/287/1444/) at my local pub last night. It was quite good. 1 turned into 3. 3 turned into a massive headache this morning.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 24, 2016, 12:22:06 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 24, 2016, 12:20:52 pm
I tried the Bell's Expedition Stout (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/287/1444/) at my local pub last night. It was quite good. 1 turned into 3. 3 turned into a massive headache this morning.
10.5 ABV...how many oz pours
I love Russian imperial stouts...will have to search this one out
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 24, 2016, 12:23:17 pm
12oz pours
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:24:10 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 24, 2016, 12:20:52 pm
I tried the Bell's Expedition Stout (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/287/1444/) at my local pub last night. It was quite good. 1 turned into 3. 3 turned into a massive headache this morning.

Any idea when Bell's Black Note comes out?

I've had one bottle (I think there was a one 12 oz bottle limit when i go it) sitting for a couple of years now, haven't seen it released again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:25:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 24, 2016, 12:23:17 pm
12oz pours

Three of those is like six cans of Bud in terms of intoxication. Obviously not in terms of taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 24, 2016, 12:25:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:24:10 pm
Any idea when Bell's Black Note comes out?
I do not, but that same pub is having a Bell's dinner tomorrow night with a Bell's rep and I can find out for you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:26:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 24, 2016, 12:25:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:24:10 pm
Any idea when Bell's Black Note comes out?
I do not, but that same pub is having a Bell's dinner tomorrow night with a Bell's rep and I can find out for you.

Merci and gracias.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 24, 2016, 01:25:39 pm
speaking of bells, i had my first hopslam of the year at a party last night.  t'was a honey-bomb.  i don't think i had any last year (it's not my fav so i don't seek it out).  i didn't remember it being so sweet.  clearly my hop tolerance is high because while the beer was clearly hoppy, it didn't strike me as exceptionally hoppy.  thank you, lupulin threshold shift (https://drunkenspeculation.com/2014/03/12/wtf-is-a-lupulin-shift/).

i also tasted an IPA from RAR brewing (http://rarbrewing.com/).  very good.  i'll be dropping by this brewery next time i made it to the eastern shore.  they're posting some very respectable rating numbers on BA (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/31849/).

weyerbacher's sunday morning stout, aka the poor man's KBS, is out.  at $18/four pack, not sure it still gets that moniker... i was planning on picking up more than one pack, but at that price i got a founders imperial stout foursome instead of another SMS.  i'll try one tonight and cellar the rest unless it tastes amazing fresh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 01:43:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 24, 2016, 01:25:39 pm
speaking of bells, i had my first hopslam of the year at a party last night.  t'was a honey-bomb.  i don't think i had any last year (it's not my fav so i don't seek it out).  i didn't remember it being so sweet.  clearly my hop tolerance is high because while the beer was clearly hoppy, it didn't strike me as exceptionally hoppy.  thank you, lupulin threshold shift (https://drunkenspeculation.com/2014/03/12/wtf-is-a-lupulin-shift/).

i also tasted an IPA from RAR brewing (http://rarbrewing.com/).  very good.  i'll be dropping by this brewery next time i made it to the eastern shore.  they're posting some very respectable rating numbers on BA (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/31849/).

weyerbacher's sunday morning stout, aka the poor man's KBS, is out.  at $18/four pack, not sure it still gets that moniker... i was planning on picking up more than one pack, but at that price i got a founders imperial stout foursome instead of another SMS.  i'll try one tonight and cellar the rest unless it tastes amazing fresh.

SMS=$14.99/ four pack in VA. Had my first one of 2016 batch last night. Was good. Wanted to compare it with a 2015 SMS which i still have, or some other bourbon stout, but i just can't handle more than one, and my wife was making drink that one by myself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 24, 2016, 02:07:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 01:43:10 pm
SMS=$14.99/ four pack in VA.

the infamous $3 DC tax...

Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 01:43:10 pm
my wife was making drink that one by myself.

i can see it now, your wife sitting you down at the table and sternly watching you drink it - sorta like when you catch a teenager smoking cigarettes and you make them smoke a bunch until they get sick, to ensure that they don't smoke again ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 24, 2016, 08:30:12 pm
I forgot how solid DFH 60 minute is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 25, 2016, 10:59:44 am
Drank my first Right Proper beer last night that I would actively seek out again.

Terrible name, awesome beer.

Diamonds, Fur Coat, Champagne - extremely crushable berliner weisse
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2016, 03:05:15 pm
Hey, for those of  you who are more connoisseur-level on your IPAs, how long are IPAs generally considered "good" if stored in cans. Also, is this time-frame effected by whether or not they're left refrigerated?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:19:17 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 25, 2016, 03:05:15 pm
Hey, for those of  you who are more connoisseur-level on your IPAs, how long are IPAs generally considered "good" if stored in cans. Also, is this time-frame effected by whether or not they're left refrigerated?

I wouldn't buy an IPA in a can or bottle that's over a month old. And I'd make sure I drank it all before the two month mark. Even sooner than both of those targets is preferred.

 I keep mine in the darkest, coldest place in my house before refrigerating and that seems to work fine for me.

I do have a can of Heady Topper that's 2.5 years old. That's going to be interesting to drink when we finally crack it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2016, 03:33:37 pm
so the four cans of Hopslam my cousin procured for me to drink when I get there in 3 weeks...should be ok then
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2016, 03:34:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:19:17 pm
I keep mine in the darkest, coldest place in my house
so how many beers can you fit in your heart?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:37:46 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:33:37 pm
so the four cans of Hopslam my cousin procured for me to drink when I get there in 3 weeks...should be ok then

I didn't say there was a hard and fast rule and it probably depends on the specific IPA, but I'm going to guess it would be fine...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:38:26 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:34:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:19:17 pm
I keep mine in the darkest, coldest place in my house
so how many beers can you fit in your heart?

About the same number you can fit in your wife's pussy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2016, 03:39:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:38:26 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:34:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:19:17 pm
I keep mine in the darkest, coldest place in my house
so how many beers can you fit in your heart?

About the same number you can fit in your wife's pussy.
Ouch!
but I've fit a bomber in there, haven't tried a magnum yet
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 25, 2016, 03:40:51 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:33:37 pm
so the four cans of Hopslam my cousin procured for me to drink when I get there in 3 weeks...should be ok then


They should be fine.  Refrigeration will insure that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 25, 2016, 03:41:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:38:26 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:34:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:19:17 pm
I keep mine in the darkest, coldest place in my house
so how many beers can you fit in your heart?

About the same number you can fit in your wife's pussy.


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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 25, 2016, 03:42:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:33:37 pm
so the four cans of Hopslam my cousin procured for me to drink when I get there in 3 weeks...should be ok then

they'll taste as mediocre then as they would today, you're fine!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2016, 03:43:40 pm
So, if I keep the entire set in the fridge the entire time, I reasonably can get 2.5-3 months without major quality loss? Someone just got me 8 6-packs of Hopslam!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 25, 2016, 03:45:18 pm
the one-month buy/two-month drink rule is a good one, generally speaking.  certain brands do better than others with regards to age.  i've found that Stone beers tend to weather time a little better than most brands.

refrigeration would be beneficial and would extend the time-frame.  maybe double it, if it's been refrigerated the whole time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:46:52 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:39:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:38:26 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:34:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:19:17 pm
I keep mine in the darkest, coldest place in my house
so how many beers can you fit in your heart?

About the same number you can fit in your wife's pussy.
Ouch!
but I've fit a bomber in there, haven't tried a magnum yet


Seems like you should talk to Relaxer about that one, assuming he doesn't forget to wear it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2016, 03:47:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:46:52 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:39:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:38:26 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 03:34:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 03:19:17 pm
I keep mine in the darkest, coldest place in my house
so how many beers can you fit in your heart?

About the same number you can fit in your wife's pussy.
Ouch!
but I've fit a bomber in there, haven't tried a magnum yet


Seems like you should talk to Relaxer about that one, assuming he doesn't "forget" to wear it.
FTFY
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 25, 2016, 03:50:42 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 25, 2016, 03:43:40 pm
So, if I keep the entire set in the fridge the entire time, I reasonably can get 2.5-3 months without major quality loss? Someone just got me 8 6-packs of Hopslam!

you're not losing quality so much as flavor and aroma.  the beers will be perfectly fine, but might not pack as much of a hop punch as when they were fresh.  and as the name of that beer implies, its goal is to slam you with hops.

depending on how you like your IPAs, letting them age is un-doing exactly what is great about the style.  however, if you don't like beers to have that much hop character, then aging makes sense... but then you should ask yourself why you're getting an IPA in the first place ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 25, 2016, 03:53:02 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 25, 2016, 03:05:15 pm
Hey, for those of  you who are more connoisseur-level on your IPAs, how long are IPAs generally considered "good" if stored in cans. Also, is this time-frame effected by whether or not they're left refrigerated?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/how-long-do-ipas-stay-fresh-in-the-can.389627/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 25, 2016, 03:54:35 pm
Last night at the 9:30 Club...

First beer - Star Hill - Northern Lights IPA - It was completely undrinkable and maybe one of the worst beers I've had in a long time. I suspect miller lite was flowing through the taps and then new castle and then they switched to a year old IPA. I considered taking it back to the bar, but I decided not to. I'm not sure why I went against my "never order a draft at a bar that doesn't specialize in beer" rule.

Second beer - Flying Dog - Doggie Style Pale Ale - Bottle, drinkable, but not too tasty.

Third Beer - Budweiser - Bottle - Best beer of the night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2016, 03:57:12 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 25, 2016, 03:50:42 pm
you're not losing quality so much as flavor and aroma.  the beers will be perfectly fine, but might not pack as much of a hop punch as when they were fresh.  and as the name of that beer implies, its goal is to slam you with hops.

depending on how you like your IPAs, letting them age is un-doing exactly what is great about the style.  however, if you don't like beers to have that much hop character, then aging makes sense... but then you should ask yourself why you're getting an IPA in the first place ;D

Quote from: brennser on February 25, 2016, 03:53:02 pm
http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/how-long-do-ipas-stay-fresh-in-the-can.389627/
Cool, thanks for all the advice. If I can get three reasonably good months out of them then I don't need to start giving this away. There was no way I could attempt to blow through 48 of those in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 25, 2016, 03:58:08 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 25, 2016, 03:43:40 pm
So, if I keep the entire set in the fridge the entire time, I reasonably can get 2.5-3 months without major quality loss? Someone just got me 8 6-packs of Hopslam!

Well hellooooooooo!  This seems like a good kickstarter bonus for the funders of the GWARBQ project.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2016, 04:02:43 pm
Quote from: jaded on February 25, 2016, 03:58:08 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 25, 2016, 03:43:40 pm
So, if I keep the entire set in the fridge the entire time, I reasonably can get 2.5-3 months without major quality loss? Someone just got me 8 6-packs of Hopslam!

Well hellooooooooo!  This seems like a good kickstarter bonus for the funders of the GWARBQ project.
Certainly, jaded! Come to RVA next weekend and you are welcome to binge-watch House of Cards and binge-drink all the Hopslam you can digest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 25, 2016, 04:06:15 pm
Damn you and your central Virginia location.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 25, 2016, 04:09:06 pm
(but thank you for the generous offer)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2016, 04:10:15 pm
Quote from: jaded on February 25, 2016, 04:09:06 pm
(but thank you for the generous offer)
I try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2016, 04:23:01 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 25, 2016, 03:50:42 pm
you should ask yourself why you're getting an IPA in the first place ;D
purely for the hype and curiosity (and free beer)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2016, 04:24:18 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 25, 2016, 03:57:12 pm
There was no way I could attempt to blow through 48 of those in the next few weeks.
I can be down in Richmond in 90 mins...we can do it this weekend!

edit....sounds like next weekend is open...expect me around 9pm Friday night
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 25, 2016, 04:26:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 25, 2016, 03:54:35 pm
Last night at the 9:30 Club...

First beer - Star Hill - Northern Lights IPA - It was completely undrinkable and maybe one of the worst beers I've had in a long time. I suspect miller lite was flowing through the taps and then new castle and then they switched to a year old IPA. I considered taking it back to the bar, but I decided not to. I'm not sure why I went against my "never order a draft at a bar that doesn't specialize in beer" rule.

Second beer - Flying Dog - Doggie Style Pale Ale - Bottle, drinkable, but not too tasty.

Third Beer - Budweiser - Bottle - Best beer of the night.

I read your last line first and didn't notice who had posted and thought, oh cute Hutch is beer thread posting again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2016, 04:28:59 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 25, 2016, 04:24:18 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 25, 2016, 03:57:12 pm
There was no way I could attempt to blow through 48 of those in the next few weeks.
I can be down in Richmond in 90 mins...we can do it this weekend!
We can do it this weekend, although House Of Cards is not yet out. Fuller House?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 25, 2016, 11:41:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 24, 2016, 01:25:39 pm
weyerbacher's sunday morning stout, aka the poor man's KBS, is out.  at $18/four pack, not sure it still gets that moniker... i was planning on picking up more than one pack, but at that price i got a founders imperial stout foursome instead of another SMS.  i'll try one tonight and cellar the rest unless it tastes amazing fresh.

i certainly hope that some age will improve the SMS, because the bottle i had tonight was a mess.  hot alcohols, soapy quality to the coffee, weird lingering astringency on the tongue... i cannot recommend this beer.  if i could i'd get a refund. 

washed it down with a founders imp.  definitely should have bought more of that instead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2016, 12:09:08 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 25, 2016, 11:41:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 24, 2016, 01:25:39 pm
weyerbacher's sunday morning stout, aka the poor man's KBS, is out.  at $18/four pack, not sure it still gets that moniker... i was planning on picking up more than one pack, but at that price i got a founders imperial stout foursome instead of another SMS.  i'll try one tonight and cellar the rest unless it tastes amazing fresh.

i certainly hope that some age will improve the SMS, because the bottle i had tonight was a mess.  hot alcohols, soapy quality to the coffee, weird lingering astringency on the tongue... i cannot recommend this beer.  if i could i'd get a refund. 

washed it down with a founders imp.  definitely should have bought more of that instead.
x
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 26, 2016, 01:32:02 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2016, 12:09:08 am
x

please, do go on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2016, 08:16:15 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 26, 2016, 01:32:02 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2016, 12:09:08 am
x

please, do go on.

I was going to offer to trade you something for your remaining bottles, but I realized I have too much SMS already....interesting thing about that beer is it has a two-year best by date on it. You don't often see that with this high abv bourbon aged beers. (I hope hope my other bourbon beers that I've had for 2ish years aren't sitting around going bad.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2016, 12:11:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:26:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 24, 2016, 12:25:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:24:10 pm
Any idea when Bell's Black Note comes out?
I do not, but that same pub is having a Bell's dinner tomorrow night with a Bell's rep and I can find out for you.

Merci and gracias.
I did ask about this last night, and his response was "the first rule of the Black Note secret society is we don't talk about Black Note." Then he laughed and said they won't be putting it out again any time in the next few months, probably Winter 2016.

Then he gave me a ton of stickers and buttons and bought me an Expedition Stout.

/cool story bro
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 26, 2016, 12:13:03 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 26, 2016, 12:11:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:26:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 24, 2016, 12:25:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:24:10 pm
Any idea when Bell's Black Note comes out?
I do not, but that same pub is having a Bell's dinner tomorrow night with a Bell's rep and I can find out for you.

Merci and gracias.
I did ask about this last night, and his response was "the first rule of the Black Note secret society is we don't talk about Black Note." Then he laughed and said they won't be putting it out again any time in the next few months, probably Winter 2016.

Then he gave me a ton of stickers and buttons and bought me an Expedition Stout.

/cool story bro

"thanks for the great beer, brah, later."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2016, 12:17:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 26, 2016, 12:13:03 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 26, 2016, 12:11:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:26:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 24, 2016, 12:25:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:24:10 pm
Any idea when Bell's Black Note comes out?
I do not, but that same pub is having a Bell's dinner tomorrow night with a Bell's rep and I can find out for you.

Merci and gracias.
I did ask about this last night, and his response was "the first rule of the Black Note secret society is we don't talk about Black Note." Then he laughed and said they won't be putting it out again any time in the next few months, probably Winter 2016.

Then he gave me a ton of stickers and buttons and bought me an Expedition Stout.

/cool story bro

"thanks for the great beer, brah, later."
I mean, minus the "brah", yeah. Wait, if I talk to musicians, will they buy me drinks too?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2016, 12:21:43 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 26, 2016, 12:17:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 26, 2016, 12:13:03 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 26, 2016, 12:11:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:26:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 24, 2016, 12:25:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 24, 2016, 12:24:10 pm
Any idea when Bell's Black Note comes out?
I do not, but that same pub is having a Bell's dinner tomorrow night with a Bell's rep and I can find out for you.

Merci and gracias.
I did ask about this last night, and his response was "the first rule of the Black Note secret society is we don't talk about Black Note." Then he laughed and said they won't be putting it out again any time in the next few months, probably Winter 2016.

Then he gave me a ton of stickers and buttons and bought me an Expedition Stout.

/cool story bro

"thanks for the great beer, brah, later."
I mean, minus the "brah", yeah. Wait, if I talk to musicians, will they buy me drinks too?
that's an easy one....NOPE
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2016, 01:31:16 pm
Drinking Coffee May Protect The Liver From Alcohol Damage (http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/drinking-coffee-may-protect-liver-alcohol-damage-study-suggests)
So those coffee stouts are really good for you then?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 29, 2016, 01:42:35 pm
like the name/logo of their new Belgian-Style Tripel
not sure how it will taste tho

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12803034_1140723079285143_874849446190084034_n.png?oh=c40c0a8b13a1d3861d694c64353c050e&oe=5770305E)
Join us on Tuesday March 1st at 5 PM for the tapping of the new beers joining the lineup, the Romantic Chemistry and Beer To Drink Music To
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 29, 2016, 03:03:40 pm
So... I learned the official definition of "Merkin" last night and I'm wondering why anyone would name their beer "Velvet Merkin."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 29, 2016, 03:06:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 29, 2016, 03:03:40 pm
So... I learned the official definition of "Merkin" last night and I'm wondering why anyone would name their beer "Velvet Merkin."
so you made it to the Pizza Paradiso event
not going to share what merkin means?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 29, 2016, 03:10:44 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 29, 2016, 03:06:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 29, 2016, 03:03:40 pm
So... I learned the official definition of "Merkin" last night and I'm wondering why anyone would name their beer "Velvet Merkin."
so you made it to the Pizza Paradiso event
not going to share what merkin means?



I did not... but I watched bits and pieces of the Oscars and someone made a joke about a "merkin."

mer·kin


/ˈmərkən/


noun

noun: merkin; plural noun: merkins


an artificial covering of hair for the pubic area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 29, 2016, 03:12:48 pm
The original Velvet Merkin was made solely for the brewery?s tasting room, starting in 2004. ?I always wanted to make an oatmeal stout, and so I started making single-turn batches for the tasting room, just for fun,? Brynildson said.

He added, ?I came up with this fanciful name, because I thought it was hilarious. I never thought it would leave the tasting room walls. When we decided to bottle it as a fall seasonal release about four years ago, everyone got cold feet, so we changed the name to Velvet Merlin.?

But the Velvet Merkin name was surreptitiously resurrected by Brynildson and the brewing team after they began aging batches of the beer in bourbon barrels at around the same time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 29, 2016, 03:13:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 29, 2016, 03:10:44 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 29, 2016, 03:06:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 29, 2016, 03:03:40 pm
So... I learned the official definition of "Merkin" last night and I'm wondering why anyone would name their beer "Velvet Merkin."
so you made it to the Pizza Paradiso event
not going to share what merkin means?



I did not... but I watched bits and pieces of the Oscars and someone made a joke about a "merkin."

mer·kin


/ˈmərkən/


noun

noun: merkin; plural noun: merkins


an artificial covering of hair for the pubic area.


Wow you're late to the party.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 29, 2016, 03:15:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 29, 2016, 03:13:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 29, 2016, 03:10:44 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on February 29, 2016, 03:06:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 29, 2016, 03:03:40 pm
So... I learned the official definition of "Merkin" last night and I'm wondering why anyone would name their beer "Velvet Merkin."
so you made it to the Pizza Paradiso event
not going to share what merkin means?



I did not... but I watched bits and pieces of the Oscars and someone made a joke about a "merkin."

mer·kin


/ˈmərkən/


noun

noun: merkin; plural noun: merkins


an artificial covering of hair for the pubic area.


Wow you're late to the party.

Sorry, brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 01, 2016, 05:24:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 24, 2015, 12:11:13 pm
Quote from: 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on November 24, 2015, 12:06:02 am
Pretty small operation, just 15 barrel batches. 

15 barrels is on the average-to-bigger side for a new brewery.  many start with a 7 or 10 barrel system.  both 3 Stars and DC Brau have 15 barrel brew houses.

So made it out to New District Brewing Company again and they are producing some interesting stuff
they also are doing so well they picked up two more 25 barrel fermenters...putting capacity at 80 barrels!
they are open Fridays now too (so only fri/sat for now)

also really keeping up with new and interesting batches
Lost Bog Man Ale- A supremely pale ale featuring smoked peat and woodruff. 5.5% ABV
Follow Your Horizons Porter- A full bodied porter dark chocolate in color featuring cherries and chocolate malt. 6% ABV

both were good, but not sure I would have them again over their other superior selections
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 01, 2016, 07:59:43 pm
Saw a bald guy with a wife and two young daughters at Aslin Sunday. Thought maybe it was Sidehatch. Oh yeah, the beer was great.

Also hit the Firestone Walker event at Paradiso. Awesome.

Also just scored a bottle of 2016 Sucaba. Almost got a second one, but i had to go pick up my sick kid and skip the beer store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 01, 2016, 09:32:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 01, 2016, 07:59:43 pm
Saw a bald guy with a wife and two young daughters at Aslin Sunday. Thought maybe it was Sidehatch. Oh yeah, the beer was great.

Also hit the Firestone Walker event at Paradiso. Awesome.
sadly have yet to make it to Aslin and I'm sportin some coverage on top now
and a little blue that I didn't attend the FW event
top three brewery for me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 02, 2016, 02:45:27 pm
Enough to raise an eyebrow, Thursday night at Gillys:

Custom Gilly's Firkin
Heavy Seas Loose Cannon IPA Firkin'd with Citra and Equinox hops, White Oak chips, dried grapefruit, vanilla, and a blend of tropical fruits!

plus a dual tap takeover from Maine Beer Company and Heavy Seas.

(Kick the keg specials tonight)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 02, 2016, 03:17:30 pm
Quote from: jaded on March 02, 2016, 02:45:27 pm
Enough to raise an eyebrow, Thursday night at Gillys:

Custom Gilly's Firkin
Heavy Seas Loose Cannon IPA Firkin'd with Citra and Equinox hops, White Oak chips, dried grapefruit, vanilla, and a blend of tropical fruits!

plus a dual tap takeover from Maine Beer Company and Heavy Seas.

(Kick the keg specials tonight)


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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 02, 2016, 03:18:00 pm
Quote from: jaded on March 02, 2016, 02:45:27 pm
Enough to raise an eyebrow, Thursday night at Gillys:

Custom Gilly's Firkin
Heavy Seas Loose Cannon IPA Firkin'd with Citra and Equinox hops, White Oak chips, dried grapefruit, vanilla, and a blend of tropical fruits!

plus a dual tap takeover from Maine Beer Company and Heavy Seas.

(Kick the keg specials tonight)

I'm sure the prices will raise an eyebrow too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 02, 2016, 03:20:09 pm
if i was in the hood i'd definitely go check that out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 02, 2016, 09:40:12 pm
Perhaps my favorite beer style...sign me up for wanting this one.

http://www.eater.com/2016/3/1/11142402/rodenbach-alexander-beer-coming-back

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Bottles on the black market apparently can sell for as much as $1,000.
so craft beer needs to be sold on the black market?!?

I know there are many here that are pro-scapling, I assume the same goes for beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on March 03, 2016, 03:44:14 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2016, 09:40:12 pm
Perhaps my favorite beer style...sign me up for wanting this one.

http://www.eater.com/2016/3/1/11142402/rodenbach-alexander-beer-coming-back



Sounds tasty. Hope we get some around here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2016, 09:50:53 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 02, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Bottles on the black market apparently can sell for as much as $1,000.
so craft beer needs to be sold on the black market?!?

I know there are many here that are pro-scapling, I assume the same goes for beer

I'm assuming you meant, "anti" scalping?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2016, 10:46:16 am
Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2016, 09:50:53 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 02, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Bottles on the black market apparently can sell for as much as $1,000.
so craft beer needs to be sold on the black market?!?

I know there are many here that are pro-scapling, I assume the same goes for beer

I'm assuming you meant, "anti" scalping?
no I've been "attacked" here for complaining about scalping
it's a capitalist society and supply and demand makes it ok to sell nosebleed seats for $400
not all for sure, but there are many here who think that's ok
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 03, 2016, 10:47:25 am
I have no problem with people scalping.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 03, 2016, 10:48:03 am
every time, I think of scalpers, my mind always goes to that one character from fast times at ridgemont high.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2016, 10:48:35 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 03, 2016, 10:46:16 am
Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2016, 09:50:53 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 02, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Bottles on the black market apparently can sell for as much as $1,000.
so craft beer needs to be sold on the black market?!?

I know there are many here that are pro-scapling, I assume the same goes for beer

I'm assuming you meant, "anti" scalping?
no I've been "attacked" here for complaining about scalping
it's a capitalist society and supply and demand makes it ok to sell nosebleed seats for $400
not all for sure, but there are many here who think that's ok

I was not aware of this... I thought this was an anti scalping crowd. I've only over paid for tickets twice in my life, I usually take advantage of scalpers so I encourage their business.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2016, 10:50:18 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on March 03, 2016, 10:48:03 am
every time, I think of scalpers, my mind always goes to that one character from fast times at ridgemont high.
you know every time I think of Julian, I think of that same character...odd

(https://media.giphy.com/media/12CAn4XQKHTiNy/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2016, 10:51:15 am
Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2016, 10:48:35 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 03, 2016, 10:46:16 am
Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2016, 09:50:53 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 02, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Bottles on the black market apparently can sell for as much as $1,000.
so craft beer needs to be sold on the black market?!?

I know there are many here that are pro-scapling, I assume the same goes for beer

I'm assuming you meant, "anti" scalping?
no I've been "attacked" here for complaining about scalping
it's a capitalist society and supply and demand makes it ok to sell nosebleed seats for $400
not all for sure, but there are many here who think that's ok

I was not aware of this... I thought this was an anti scalping crowd. I've only over paid for tickets twice in my life, I usually take advantage of scalpers so I encourage their business.
I  applaud your tactics and relish in your stories of sticking it to them
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2016, 10:53:11 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 03, 2016, 10:51:15 am
Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2016, 10:48:35 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 03, 2016, 10:46:16 am
Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2016, 09:50:53 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 02, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Bottles on the black market apparently can sell for as much as $1,000.
so craft beer needs to be sold on the black market?!?

I know there are many here that are pro-scapling, I assume the same goes for beer

I'm assuming you meant, "anti" scalping?
no I've been "attacked" here for complaining about scalping
it's a capitalist society and supply and demand makes it ok to sell nosebleed seats for $400
not all for sure, but there are many here who think that's ok

I was not aware of this... I thought this was an anti scalping crowd. I've only over paid for tickets twice in my life, I usually take advantage of scalpers so I encourage their business.
I  applaud your tactics and relish in your stories of sticking it to them

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/14567433.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 03, 2016, 10:54:24 am
Quote
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 03, 2016, 10:46:16 am
Quote from: Yada on March 03, 2016, 09:50:53 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 02, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Bottles on the black market apparently can sell for as much as $1,000.
so craft beer needs to be sold on the black market?!?

I know there are many here that are pro-scapling, I assume the same goes for beer

I'm assuming you meant, "anti" scalping?
no I've been "attacked" here for complaining about scalping
it's a capitalist society and supply and demand makes it ok to sell nosebleed seats for $400
not all for sure, but there are many here who think that's ok

I would likely do it, and i would not buy tickets at that price. But I think it's ok if others choose to do it. I feel the same way about abortion too, btw.

How does my being ok with others doing it  mean that I'm attacking you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 03, 2016, 10:56:47 am
I think it is fair to say, that people always think you are attacking them.   ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2016, 11:02:31 am
Space...hate to break it to you...you can't have an abortion
also I put attacking in quotes...emphasizing the hyperbole
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 03, 2016, 11:15:44 am
When does the victory gose hit the dc area beer shelves?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 03, 2016, 01:07:24 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 02, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Bottles on the black market apparently can sell for as much as $1,000.
so craft beer needs to be sold on the black market?!?

"needs"?  it's just one rare beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2016, 01:10:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 03, 2016, 01:07:24 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 02, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Bottles on the black market apparently can sell for as much as $1,000.
so craft beer needs to be sold on the black market?!?

"needs"?  it's just one rare beer.
I meant, why wouldn't you just post it on EBay or CL or some stilly beer forum
Black market makes me think guns, slaves and drugs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 03, 2016, 02:59:41 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 19, 2016, 04:58:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 04:34:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 19, 2016, 04:18:20 pm
I guess Stone Brewery in Richmond had their soft-opening of their new facilities this afternoon. . .

Looks like the brewery itself won't be brewing beer until June/July, and the brewpub won't open for another couple years...

Any word on the street when the Veil will open?

I also saw that the Answer is expanding...great...we'll have even more space to ourselves the next time we're there. Been there twice, huge space, amazing beer (theirs and others), but completely empty both times.
They're saying "brewed in RVA" beer by May, apparently. Yes, its just the tasting room that's open.

I can ask someone more in the know re: Veil.

Looks like they're doing their first brew tomorrow...

https://www.facebook.com/theveilbrewing/photos/a.895152767235572.1073741829.829480530469463/957663150984533/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 03, 2016, 11:05:06 pm
Tropical Bitch...much better than I was expecting.  Sweetness / fruit is balanced and not cloying. Fair amount of bitterness with recognizable "Belgian" character. 8% ABV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 03, 2016, 11:13:31 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 01, 2016, 09:32:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 01, 2016, 07:59:43 pm
Saw a bald guy with a wife and two young daughters at Aslin Sunday. Thought maybe it was Sidehatch. Oh yeah, the beer was great.

Also hit the Firestone Walker event at Paradiso. Awesome.
sadly have yet to make it to Aslin and I'm sportin some coverage on top now
and a little blue that I didn't attend the FW event
top three brewery for me

Meant to ask...what are your other two?

They rank very high with me. Even though i haven't even tried any of their sours yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 03, 2016, 11:37:27 pm
Prague #1 beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 04, 2016, 10:04:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 03, 2016, 11:13:31 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 01, 2016, 09:32:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 01, 2016, 07:59:43 pm
Firestone Walker event at Paradiso. Awesome.
and a little blue that I didn't attend the FW event
top three brewery for me

Meant to ask...what are your other two?
Russian River (not even including there pliny hysteria)
Stone
I know all west coast stuff

I'd say Dogfish head, Boulevard and Southern Tier all have honorable mentions in my book
My depth and breath of beers is still somewhat limited compared to the average hophead
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 04, 2016, 10:24:51 am
How's the beer selection at the Ottobar?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 04, 2016, 11:24:02 am
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 04, 2016, 10:04:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 03, 2016, 11:13:31 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 01, 2016, 09:32:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 01, 2016, 07:59:43 pm
Firestone Walker event at Paradiso. Awesome.
and a little blue that I didn't attend the FW event
top three brewery for me

Meant to ask...what are your other two?
Russian River (not even including there pliny hysteria)
Stone
I know all west coast stuff

I'd say Dogfish head, Boulevard and Southern Tier all have honorable mentions in my book
My depth and breath of beers is still somewhat limited compared to the average hophead

That's almost exactly my list, though I'd boot Southern Tier for Deschutes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 04, 2016, 11:31:37 am
Quote from: jaded on March 04, 2016, 11:24:02 am
That's almost exactly my list, though I'd boot Southern Tier for Deschutes.
oh yeah...I'd probably add Deschutes and Bells to that list
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 04, 2016, 12:04:11 pm
Quote from: Bagley on March 04, 2016, 10:24:51 am
How's the beer selection at the Ottobar?

they have nattyboh...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 05, 2016, 01:08:41 pm
in my replacement experiment, to switch over to a beer I can buy from the local food lion or martins, instead of the ole beer shoppe, where I walk out sixty dollars lighter . . . I found that some, if not a good bit of flying dog's line up is better than most other brands.  their, double dog and tropical bitch in bottle, and doggie style on draught, are my favs, so far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on March 05, 2016, 03:11:24 pm
Narragansett Lager is a very good cheap beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 07, 2016, 11:02:32 am
Best beer of the weekend.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/19544/52928/

I was in Pittsburgh for the weekend and it was freshly on tap basically everywhere.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 11:18:50 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 25, 2016, 11:41:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 24, 2016, 01:25:39 pm
weyerbacher's sunday morning stout, aka the poor man's KBS, is out.  at $18/four pack, not sure it still gets that moniker... i was planning on picking up more than one pack, but at that price i got a founders imperial stout foursome instead of another SMS.  i'll try one tonight and cellar the rest unless it tastes amazing fresh.

i certainly hope that some age will improve the SMS, because the bottle i had tonight was a mess.  hot alcohols, soapy quality to the coffee, weird lingering astringency on the tongue... i cannot recommend this beer.  if i could i'd get a refund. 

washed it down with a founders imp.  definitely should have bought more of that instead.

I had to drain pour half of an SMS last night, but I think the flu had more to do with it than the beer. Even Sucaba only tasted so-so on Friday. Think I'll have to skip beer for a couple of days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 07, 2016, 12:12:30 pm
What are opinions on Lone Star? I think its a Texas microbrew
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: analogfossa on March 07, 2016, 12:20:22 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump on March 07, 2016, 12:12:30 pm
What are opinions on Lone Star? I think its a Texas microbrew
Its basically the PBR of Texas. Cheap, but not flavorless. I'd actually say closer to Natty Boh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 12:26:32 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump on March 07, 2016, 12:12:30 pm
What are opinions on Lone Star? I think its a Texas microbrew

lol

1st percentile on ratebeer.com

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/lone-star/738/

not a microbrew

Truth is, Lone Star is still brewed in Texas. However, it isn't brewed at the famous San Antonio brewery that many remember. In fact, the old brewery hasn't brewed beer since 1996. Now, Miller Brewing in Fort Worth brews Lone Star under contract of Illinois-based Pabst Brewing Company.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 07, 2016, 02:52:51 pm
Two cases of Trillium IPAs at Cairo Liquor in Dupont, bottles for $20...

My guess is they'll be gone by the time you read this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:13:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 02:52:51 pm
Two cases of Trillium IPAs at Cairo Liquor in Dupont, bottles for $20...

My guess is they'll be gone by the time you read this.

Awesome beer but questionable if it's even worth the price they charge at the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 07, 2016, 04:19:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:13:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 02:52:51 pm
Two cases of Trillium IPAs at Cairo Liquor in Dupont, bottles for $20...

My guess is they'll be gone by the time you read this.

Awesome beer but questionable if it's even worth the price they charge at the brewery.

Max you're paying is $12 for 25oz of most likely one of the best IPAs in the country... I'd say, "worth it." At least based off the last few bottles of Trillium I've had... Maybe it's over priced for some of their other offerings, but in general, what bombers can you buy for less than $9 that are better? I'm thinking the beer to price ratio of bombers doesn't positively impact the James Ford opinion on any beer that comes in bombers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 07, 2016, 04:22:10 pm
Checking out Barrel of Monks Brewing in a few weeks when down in FL for some spring breakin for their You Only Turn One Once party


They just placed pretty well in a Florida Beer competition

We are back after a GREAT weekend over in Tampa for the Florida Brewers Guild Festival and Best Florida Beer. We are humbled and honored to receive three medals for our beers. Owen took Bronze in Barrel Aged, Dry Hopped Endless Enigma took Bronze in Belgian, and Quadraphonic Quad took Silver in Belgian


My cuz says the Quad is spectacular
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:30:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 04:19:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:13:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 02:52:51 pm
Two cases of Trillium IPAs at Cairo Liquor in Dupont, bottles for $20...

My guess is they'll be gone by the time you read this.

Awesome beer but questionable if it's even worth the price they charge at the brewery.

Max you're paying is $12 for 25oz of most likely one of the best IPAs in the country... I'd say, "worth it." At least based off the last few bottles of Trillium I've had... Maybe it's over priced for some of their other offerings, but in general, what bombers can you buy for less than $9 that are better? I'm thinking the beer to price ratio of bombers doesn't positively impact the James Ford opinion on any beer that comes in bombers.

48 cents an ounce is the equivalent of paying $34.56 for a six pack. That's hard for me to wrap my head around, no matter how good the IPA is. When I was at Trillium, I brought home two bottles as souvenirs, but if i lived in Boston, I couldn't see their beers being in my regular rotation.

The ironic thing is when I went to their tasting room in South Boston (back when they did free tastings), I took several of my coworkers with me and everyone except for me, my hophead friend, and one other guy who was just pleasantly surprised that the beer was free thought the IPA's were repulsive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 07, 2016, 04:38:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:30:35 pm


48 cents an ounce is the equivalent of paying $34.56 for a six pack.


 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 07, 2016, 04:46:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 04:19:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:13:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 02:52:51 pm
Two cases of Trillium IPAs at Cairo Liquor in Dupont, bottles for $20...

Awesome beer but questionable if it's even worth the price they charge at the brewery.

Max you're paying is $12 for 25oz
I'm confused, you said it was $20 a bottle
At $12 it's not terribly overpriced for a bomber (but pricey nonetheless) at $20 it's getting obnoxious price range
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 07, 2016, 04:51:47 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ★ |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| ❄️ on March 07, 2016, 04:46:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 04:19:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:13:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 02:52:51 pm
Two cases of Trillium IPAs at Cairo Liquor in Dupont, bottles for $20...

Awesome beer but questionable if it's even worth the price they charge at the brewery.

Max you're paying is $12 for 25oz
I'm confused, you said it was $20 a bottle
At $12 it's not terribly overpriced for a bomber (but pricey nonetheless) at $20 it's getting obnoxious price range

That's what you pay at the brewery, not what you pay when a liquor store in DC procures it and doubles the price of the bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:57:04 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump on March 07, 2016, 04:38:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:30:35 pm


48 cents an ounce is the equivalent of paying $34.56 for a six pack.


 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

And at $20 a bomber, that's $57.60 a six pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 07, 2016, 05:40:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:57:04 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump on March 07, 2016, 04:38:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:30:35 pm


48 cents an ounce is the equivalent of paying $34.56 for a six pack.


 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o



And at $20 a bomber, that's $57.60 a six pack.

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 07, 2016, 05:58:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:13:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 02:52:51 pm
Two cases of Trillium IPAs at Cairo Liquor in Dupont, bottles for $20...

My guess is they'll be gone by the time you read this.

Awesome beer but questionable if it's even worth the price they charge at the brewery.

I would gladly pay an $8 convenience fee for a beer that typically retails for $12 considering that Trillium is a) one of the best breweries in New England, and b) you can only buy it at the brewery which is not exactly a stone's throw from here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 07, 2016, 06:06:47 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 07, 2016, 05:58:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 04:13:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2016, 02:52:51 pm
Two cases of Trillium IPAs at Cairo Liquor in Dupont, bottles for $20...

My guess is they'll be gone by the time you read this.

Awesome beer but questionable if it's even worth the price they charge at the brewery.

I would gladly pay an $8 convenience fee for a beer that typically retails for $12 considering that Trillium is a) one of the best breweries in New England, and b) you can only buy it at the brewery which is not exactly a stone's throw from here.

Brett be like, yeah I'm a baller

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2016, 06:13:41 pm
please remind me, how much are people willing to pay for cantillon?  and how much does that same bottle cost at the brewery?

if brett feels that trillium is an amazing brewery, then $8 isn't that bad a delivery fee.

does anyone know how fresh those bottles are?  certain dupont-area bottle shops are known to charge a bit premium for old white whales...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2016, 06:41:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 07, 2016, 06:13:41 pm
please remind me, how much are people willing to pay for cantillon?  and how much does that same bottle cost at the brewery?

if brett feels that trillium is an amazing brewery, then $8 isn't that bad a delivery fee.

does anyone know how fresh those bottles are?  certain dupont-area bottle shops are known to charge a bit premium for old white whales...

The one Cantillon bottle i had in Belgium ended up being a drain pour. But that's another story...

It was said on BA that the bottles were four days old.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2016, 05:58:03 pm
so who here was the big IPA fan....

If You Are A Fan Of IPA, Science Says You?re More Likely To Be A Psycho (http://vinepair.com/booze-news/if-you-are-a-fan-of-ipa-science-says-youre-more-likely-to-by-psychotic/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=pagepost)

What the researchers uncovered was that the more a person craved bitter flavors, the darker their personality.

(http://i.imgur.com/rKLQnYu.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 09, 2016, 10:23:15 am
deece little porch bomb that arrived yesterday.

(http://s13.postimg.org/rd42u6rd3/20160308_182058.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 09, 2016, 11:12:58 am
i just got this in an email...

(http://brewers.informz.net/Brewers/data/images/SAVOR16/savor16_header.jpg) 
 
Save the Date: Member Pre-Sale is March 22

SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience (http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/) returns to the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C., June 3-4, 2016.

Check out the list of participating craft breweries (http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/).
Plan which Salon (http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/attendee-guide/salons/) tickets you would like to purchase.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 09, 2016, 11:18:00 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 09, 2016, 11:12:58 am
i just got this in an email...

(http://brewers.informz.net/Brewers/data/images/SAVOR16/savor16_header.jpg) 
 
Save the Date: Member Pre-Sale is March 22

SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience (http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/) returns to the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C., June 3-4, 2016.

Check out the list of participating craft breweries (http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/).
Plan which Salon (http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/attendee-guide/salons/) tickets you would like to purchase.



We discussed this a few pages back, Space is not impressed.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 09, 2016, 11:48:09 am
Basic, just basic.  Sam adams?  Really?  Great, every boney white father of two, in shorts and some polo shirt, will be there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 09, 2016, 11:50:16 am
Quote from: Yada on March 09, 2016, 10:23:15 am
deece little porch bomb that arrived yesterday.

(http://s13.postimg.org/rd42u6rd3/20160308_182058.jpg)
I really am going to need to find out where you live to keep an eye on that porch for deliveries
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on March 09, 2016, 11:50:31 am
Hey, I'm a boney white father of two who frequently enjoys wearing sassy shorts and a cute polo! This ad really speaks to me and my interests.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 09, 2016, 09:35:48 pm
Helldorado on tap.  Yaaasssssss!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 09, 2016, 10:25:01 pm
Quote from: jaded on March 09, 2016, 09:35:48 pm
Helldorado on tap.  Yaaasssssss!

That's a damn good beer. Wish i hadn't passed on getting a bottle when it was out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 10, 2016, 08:09:12 am
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the Flying Dog Cold Press Coffee Porter is damn delicious. It's a brewhouse rarity, but they have some at Perfect Pour in Columbia.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 10, 2016, 08:55:23 am
Did I tell you I  have my own beer?...largest beer plant on the East Coast....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 10, 2016, 09:45:16 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 10, 2016, 08:09:12 am
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the Flying Dog Cold Press Coffee Porter is damn delicious. It's a brewhouse rarity, but they have some at Perfect Pour in Columbia.

I agree, great beer... After many years, I finally made a trip up to the brewery earlier this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 10, 2016, 09:59:24 am
Quote from: Yada on March 10, 2016, 09:45:16 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 10, 2016, 08:09:12 am
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the Flying Dog Cold Press Coffee Porter is damn delicious. It's a brewhouse rarity, but they have some at Perfect Pour in Columbia.

I agree, great beer... After many years, I finally made a trip up to the brewery earlier this year.

As a 21+ brewery, that's one that I will never visit, nor will I buy their products.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 10, 2016, 10:09:23 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 10, 2016, 09:59:24 am
Quote from: Yada on March 10, 2016, 09:45:16 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 10, 2016, 08:09:12 am
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the Flying Dog Cold Press Coffee Porter is damn delicious. It's a brewhouse rarity, but they have some at Perfect Pour in Columbia.

I agree, great beer... After many years, I finally made a trip up to the brewery earlier this year.

As a 21+ brewery, that's one that I will never visit, nor will I buy their products.

lol
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 10, 2016, 10:16:31 am
My brewery doesn't let muslims visit but you can be under 21... perfect for you Space Freely!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 10, 2016, 10:42:33 am
Quote from: Yada on March 10, 2016, 10:09:23 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 10, 2016, 09:59:24 am
Quote from: Yada on March 10, 2016, 09:45:16 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 10, 2016, 08:09:12 am
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the Flying Dog Cold Press Coffee Porter is damn delicious. It's a brewhouse rarity, but they have some at Perfect Pour in Columbia.

I agree, great beer... After many years, I finally made a trip up to the brewery earlier this year.

As a 21+ brewery, that's one that I will never visit, nor will I buy their products.

lol
I know...double lol
seems like an odd condition in that, it makes and serves alcohol. A substance which you legally need to be 21 to consume.
and brewery age limits and your purchasing that beer in whole foods seems an odd criteria too?
but let's not rain on space's parade
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 10, 2016, 11:05:49 am
Quote from: Donald Trump on March 10, 2016, 10:16:31 am
My brewery doesn't let muslims visit but you can be under 21... perfect for you Space Freely!

I'm actually happy to share a beer with a Muslim. It's their fucked up religion that would seemingly prevent that from happening, not me.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 10, 2016, 11:10:39 am
hey I'm just a blowhard asshole.. how would I know that??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 10, 2016, 04:54:41 pm
the Whole Foods in Foggy Bottom has been, until recently, my main beer buying destination.  this past summer they lost their beer buyer (now working at P Street) and the selection of beer has suffered.  it's not horrible, but is no longer spectacular.  draft options just hasn't been as good.  my guy isn't there anymore to hold bottles for me, give me advance notice when the good stuff is coming in, etc.  while shopping there today i asked the shelf-stocker (new beer guy?) if they had received Sucaba, fully expecting him to tell me that it came and went in under an hour 2 weeks ago.  instead i walked outta there with their last bottle.  yeay me.

recently tried the sam adams nitro coffee stout in a can.  meh.  it's fine but just doesn't have much going on.  maybe it's because i'm used to stouts with coffee being imperial, this one clocks in at "only" 5.8%.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 12, 2016, 09:29:33 am
My server this week in Texas...great guy, extremely knowledgeable about all things beer.  Goes by the name "hutch".

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1678/25098606013_d940a91b5d_b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 14, 2016, 11:27:16 am
great beer ad from 1975 (guess this could have gone in the nerd thread too)

(http://digiday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Spock-744x419.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 14, 2016, 11:36:16 am
god, to find a photoshopped kirk in the place of dennis hopper, screaming, Heineken . . . fuck that shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 14, 2016, 12:30:39 pm
Another one bites the dust. At least it's not AB-Inbev.

Fireman Capital to Purchase Cigar City

http://www.brewbound.com/news/fireman-capital-to-purchase-cigar-city
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 14, 2016, 12:47:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2016, 12:30:39 pm
Another one bites the dust. At least it's not AB-Inbev.

Fireman Capital to Purchase Cigar City

http://www.brewbound.com/news/fireman-capital-to-purchase-cigar-city
WHERE WILL GWAR GET THEIR NOVELTY SWILL MADE NOW!?!?!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 14, 2016, 12:56:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2016, 12:30:39 pm
Another one bites the dust. At least it's not AB-Inbev.

Fireman Capital to Purchase Cigar City

http://www.brewbound.com/news/fireman-capital-to-purchase-cigar-city

Other than their very inconsistent Jai Alai offering, I can't say I liked many more of their beverages. Won't be missed!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 14, 2016, 01:05:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 14, 2016, 12:56:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2016, 12:30:39 pm
Another one bites the dust. At least it's not AB-Inbev.

Fireman Capital to Purchase Cigar City

http://www.brewbound.com/news/fireman-capital-to-purchase-cigar-city

Other than their very inconsistent Jai Alai offering, I can't say I liked many more of their beverages. Won't be missed!

Are you saying Jai Alai is inconsistent in quality, or in availability? I can agree with the former. When it's super fresh and a good batch, it's world class. When it's not, it's not. The latter issue seems to have been remedied already.

Cigar City makes some damn good beer, but none of it (other than Jai Alai, when it's a good batch) makes it up here. Maybe this will allow us to see more of their good stuff,and maybe bring some consistency to Jai Alai.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 14, 2016, 01:06:47 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2016, 01:05:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 14, 2016, 12:56:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2016, 12:30:39 pm
Another one bites the dust. At least it's not AB-Inbev.

Fireman Capital to Purchase Cigar City

http://www.brewbound.com/news/fireman-capital-to-purchase-cigar-city

Other than their very inconsistent Jai Alai offering, I can't say I liked many more of their beverages. Won't be missed!

Are you saying Jai Alai is inconsistent in quality, or in availability? I can agree with the former. When it's super fresh and a good batch, it's world class. When it's not, it's not. The latter issue seems to have been remedied already.

Cigar City makes some damn good beer, but none of it (other than Jai Alai, when it's a good batch) makes it up here. Maybe this will allow us to see more of their good stuff,and maybe bring some consistency to Jai Alai.

When it's not, it's not. Even when drinking it in Florida.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 15, 2016, 02:44:15 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2016/03/15/beer-madness-2016/?tid=a_inl
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 01:43:16 pm
Being half Irish and teleworking on St Patrick's Day means you're required to drink an 11% bourbon barrel stout in the afternoon, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 17, 2016, 01:45:15 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 01:43:16 pm
Being half Irish and teleworking on St Patrick's Day means you're required to drink an 11% bourbon barrel stout in the afternoon, right?
You're only half-Irish so only drink 6 of the 12 ounces.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 01:51:09 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on March 17, 2016, 01:45:15 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 01:43:16 pm
Being half Irish and teleworking on St Patrick's Day means you're required to drink an 11% bourbon barrel stout in the afternoon, right?
You're only half-Irish so only drink 6 of the 12 ounces.

Good thinking. Perhaps the dog gets the other six ounces since he's underweight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 17, 2016, 01:53:18 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 01:51:09 pm
Good thinking. Perhaps the dog gets the other six ounces since he's underweight.
Have you computed your dog's BMI (http://petsci.co.uk/calculating-your-dogs-bmi/)?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 01:59:57 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on March 17, 2016, 01:53:18 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 01:51:09 pm
Good thinking. Perhaps the dog gets the other six ounces since he's underweight.
Have you computed your dog's BMI (http://petsci.co.uk/calculating-your-dogs-bmi/)?

yes

Your Dog may be Underweight
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 02:04:14 pm
It appears they may have Hopslam AND KBS on at Fair Lakes Whole Foods. That's where I should be teleworking from.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 17, 2016, 02:07:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 01:59:57 pm
Your Dog may be Underweight
Better keep an eye on that, buddy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2016, 04:33:38 pm
$14 crowlers at Aslin.

Space, I hope you were wearing a diaper when you read that news.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 04:48:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2016, 04:33:38 pm
$14 crowlers at Aslin.

Space, I hope you were wearing a diaper when you read that news.

I send them my best Nancy Reagan.

I did once pay $10 each for crowlers of Crank IPA at Cycle Brewing in St Petersburg, but that's likely one of my top 3 IPA's of all time and better than Aslin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2016, 04:54:03 pm
I had me a pint of guiness...$3....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 08:51:30 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 17, 2016, 04:54:03 pm
I had me a pint of guiness...$3....

I had a 12 oz Hopslam on draft for $5. I win.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2016, 08:56:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 08:51:30 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 17, 2016, 04:54:03 pm
I had me a pint of guiness...$3....

I had a 12 oz Hopslam on draft for $5. I win.

even if I wanted a guiness?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 17, 2016, 09:45:31 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 17, 2016, 08:56:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 08:51:30 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 17, 2016, 04:54:03 pm
I had me a pint of guiness...$3....

I had a 12 oz Hopslam on draft for $5. I win.

even if I wanted a guiness?
im sure your [noun] regret your poor life decisions.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2016, 10:54:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 08:51:30 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 17, 2016, 04:54:03 pm
I had me a pint of guiness...$3....

I had a 12 oz Hopslam on draft for $5. I win.

I'd rather drink a Guinness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 18, 2016, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2016, 10:54:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 08:51:30 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 17, 2016, 04:54:03 pm
I had me a pint of guiness...$3....

I had a 12 oz Hopslam on draft for $5. I win.

I'd rather drink a Guinness.

There was a time when all my daughter would eat was packaged vegan corn dogs from Trader Joes. Now she has pronounced that she will never eat another vegan corn dog and we have a freezer full of vegan corn dog packages.

The only time I ever drink a Guinness is when I'm on vacation in St John, because that's one of the few stout options available there. And I always choose the Guinness Foreign Extra. Oddly, even though it's tastier and higher in abv (and pricier here on the mainland), it's actually cheaper there than the other Guinness variants.

The location that I had the Hopslam (Whole Foods) also had Guinness and several rare-ish Bells stouts on tap. I would have chosen any of the Bells beers over Guinness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 18, 2016, 09:07:34 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 18, 2016, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2016, 10:54:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 08:51:30 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 17, 2016, 04:54:03 pm
I had me a pint of guiness...$3....

I had a 12 oz Hopslam on draft for $5. I win.

I'd rather drink a Guinness.

There was a time when all my daughter would eat was packaged vegan corn dogs from Trader Joes. Now she has pronounced that she will never eat another vegan corn dog and we have a freezer full of vegan corn dog packages.

The only time I ever drink a Guinness is when I'm on vacation in St John, because that's one of the few stout options available there. And I always choose the Guinness Foreign Extra. Oddly, even though it's tastier and higher in abv (and pricier here on the mainland), it's actually cheaper there than the other Guinness variants.

The location that I had the Hopslam (Whole Foods) also had Guinness and several rare-ish Bells stouts on tap. I would have chosen any of the Bells beers over Guinness.

If you break down the cost of that Hopslam, you're actually paying more per ounce than crowlers at Aslin. Watch that wallet Space!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 18, 2016, 09:18:11 am
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2016, 09:07:34 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 18, 2016, 09:01:35 am
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2016, 10:54:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2016, 08:51:30 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 17, 2016, 04:54:03 pm
I had me a pint of guiness...$3....

I had a 12 oz Hopslam on draft for $5. I win.

I'd rather drink a Guinness.

There was a time when all my daughter would eat was packaged vegan corn dogs from Trader Joes. Now she has pronounced that she will never eat another vegan corn dog and we have a freezer full of vegan corn dog packages.

The only time I ever drink a Guinness is when I'm on vacation in St John, because that's one of the few stout options available there. And I always choose the Guinness Foreign Extra. Oddly, even though it's tastier and higher in abv (and pricier here on the mainland), it's actually cheaper there than the other Guinness variants.

The location that I had the Hopslam (Whole Foods) also had Guinness and several rare-ish Bells stouts on tap. I would have chosen any of the Bells beers over Guinness.

If you break down the cost of that Hopslam, you're actually paying more per ounce than crowlers at Aslin. Watch that wallet Space!!!

Sure, but 12 oz of Hopslam was more than enough. Six ounces would have been preferable. 32 ounces of any one beer...way more than I'd want to drink in the amount of time I'd need to drink it fresh! So that would be at least $9 more beer than I would want!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 18, 2016, 11:19:44 am
and here I remember when space hated hopslam, and would so gladly proclaim it you . . . ah, the good ole days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 18, 2016, 11:33:12 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on March 18, 2016, 11:19:44 am
and here I remember when space hated hopslam, and would so gladly proclaim it you . . . ah, the good ole days.

When did I ever say I hated it? It's very good, not great. There are better DIPA's for cheaper six pack prices (I picked up one last night, Union Double Duckpin.). It's hateworthy in a sense that it gets more press than it deserves at this point, but it's like Kobe, you have to give him legacy props and he can still put up 30 on a good night. Then again, Hopslam never raped anyone, so it's not even as hateworthy as Kobe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 18, 2016, 11:45:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 18, 2016, 11:33:12 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on March 18, 2016, 11:19:44 am
and here I remember when space hated hopslam, and would so gladly proclaim it you . . . ah, the good ole days.

When did I ever say I hated it? It's very good, not great. There are better DIPA's for cheaper six pack prices (I picked up one last night, Union Double Duckpin.). It's hateworthy in a sense that it gets more press than it deserves at this point, but it's like Kobe, you have to give him legacy props and he can still put up 30 on a good night. Then again, Hopslam never raped anyone, so it's not even as hateworthy as Kobe.
POTW. Did not see that topic shift coming. That's some quality shade being thrown around.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2016, 12:39:33 pm
and here I though he was talking of the overpriced beef from Japan...until the rape comment
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2016, 11:19:16 pm
South Florida has come a long way with Beer
My Cuz took me on a little tour and man was there some good beer/breweries
Started off with a Jal-alai draft at the Wet Lab (https://www.facebook.com/thewetlab) overlooking Biscayne bay for sun set

Then headed to wynwood  in Miami and that hood is just freakin' awesome
The Wynwood Arts District is home ...one of the largest open-air street-art installations in the world.
This district is a must see if in Miami
So tons of cool eateries, cocktail bars, breweries, food trucks artisanal this and that and lots of thumping clubs too
and everything...I mean everything is covered in Art (mostly street art, but all of it was stellar IMO)
beaucoup beautiful people

First stop was J Wakefield (http://www.jwakefieldbrewing.com/)
The La Nada Russian imperial was my favorite selection
The Detention Imperial IPA was not slouch either

they had some really interesting sours
They did a colab with Evil twin called East Bound & Down - An Imperial Berliner done with @relentlessroasters Coffee and Cocoa nibs
the Appleweisse Berliner Weisse colab with Captain Lawrence (great NY brewery too)...just had a sip, but thought it was very appealing


The star wars décor was the only drawback...some of it was cool, but feels kind kitschy when they have such good beer
(http://static.urbandaddy.com/uploads/assets/image/articles/standard/66955874a7e3ff05bf5ae9e94703072948106f3d.jpg)

the Frita (Cuban beef patty) from the food truck was also off the charts delicious

At this point, I probably should have dialed it down, but it was only 11PM and Miami just gets started at that time (well that's early for the clubs)

So we went over to Concrete Beach Brewery (http://concretebeachbrewery.com/)
Love their logo / tag line
(https://cdn-az.allevents.in/banners/503b10c7a08c3245d7d3735610696b17)
the Walls South American Red Ale was a fine beer

Then we headed over to one of his friend's bar call the Barracuda Bar & Grill  (https://www.facebook.com/Barracuda-Bar-Grill-115730971788078/?fref=ts&ref=br_tf)in Coconut Grove
looked very much like a typical S Florida bar...but the tap selection was amazing
Started off with A Hi-Res by Sixpoint...fantastic DIPA with 10% ABV
then the owner was saving him a bomber of Cappuccino Stout from Lagunitas 9.2%ABV
and we slurped that down with reckless abandon and a big smile on my face

needless to say my blood was about 9.2 ABV at that point and luckily he was cognizant enough to get us a uber home.
To add to the pain that I'd inflicted on myself, the bed room I was in, the smoke alarm battery was dying and kept giving a piercing beep every minute when I awoke much earlier than I should have


We didn't go, but there is a place they go to called Box Elder (http://www.bxldr.com/) that is a bottle shop and taproom that has an impressive draft list and rare bottles
They both looked at me oddly when I said "awesome, love GBV" and they responded "what's a GBV?"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 20, 2016, 08:45:45 am
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on March 19, 2016, 11:19:16 pm
South Florida has come a long way with Beer
My Cuz took me on a little tour and man was there some good beer/breweries
Started off with a Jal-alai draft at the Wet Lab (https://www.facebook.com/thewetlab) overlooking Biscayne bay for sun set

Then headed to wynwood  in Miami and that hood is just freakin' awesome
The Wynwood Arts District is home ...one of the largest open-air street-art installations in the world.
This district is a must see if in Miami
So tons of cool eateries, cocktail bars, breweries, food trucks artisanal this and that and lots of thumping clubs too
and everything...I mean everything is covered in Art (mostly street art, but all of it was stellar IMO)
beaucoup beautiful people

First stop was J Wakefield (http://www.jwakefieldbrewing.com/)
The La Nada Russian imperial was my favorite selection
The Detention Imperial IPA was not slouch either

they had some really interesting sours
They did a colab with Evil twin called East Bound & Down - An Imperial Berliner done with @relentlessroasters Coffee and Cocoa nibs
the Appleweisse Berliner Weisse colab with Captain Lawrence (great NY brewery too)...just had a sip, but thought it was very appealing


The star wars décor was the only drawback...some of it was cool, but feels kind kitschy when they have such good beer
(http://static.urbandaddy.com/uploads/assets/image/articles/standard/66955874a7e3ff05bf5ae9e94703072948106f3d.jpg)

the Frita (Cuban beef patty) from the food truck was also off the charts delicious

At this point, I probably should have dialed it down, but it was only 11PM and Miami just gets started at that time (well that's early for the clubs)

So we went over to Concrete Beach Brewery (http://concretebeachbrewery.com/)
Love their logo / tag line
(https://cdn-az.allevents.in/banners/503b10c7a08c3245d7d3735610696b17)
the Walls South American Red Ale was a fine beer

Then we headed over to one of his friend's bar call the Barracuda Bar & Grill  (https://www.facebook.com/Barracuda-Bar-Grill-115730971788078/?fref=ts&ref=br_tf)in Coconut Grove
looked very much like a typical S Florida bar...but the tap selection was amazing
Started off with A Hi-Res by Sixpoint...fantastic DIPA with 10% ABV
then the owner was saving him a bomber of Cappuccino Stout from Lagunitas 9.2%ABV
and we slurped that down with reckless abandon and a big smile on my face

needless to say my blood was about 9.2 ABV at that point and luckily he was cognizant enough to get us a uber home.
To add to the pain that I'd inflicted on myself, the bed room I was in, the smoke alarm battery was dying and kept giving a piercing beep every minute when I awoke much earlier than I should have


We didn't go, but there is a place they go to called Box Elder (http://www.bxldr.com/) that is a bottle shop and taproom that has an impressive draft list and rare bottles
They both looked at me oddly when I said "awesome, love GBV" and they responded "what's a GBV?"


Maybe they were confused because it's a pavement song? Otherwise, nice write up, would love to get to J Wakefield.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2016, 09:27:54 am
Quote from: Yada on March 20, 2016, 08:45:45 am

Maybe they were confused because it's a pavement song? Otherwise, nice write up, would love to get to J Wakefield.
ack...my synapses are misfiring and connecting the wrong memories
same era at least
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 21, 2016, 02:51:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 03:06:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 02:48:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 01:35:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Savor Brewery List...

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/

I saw that list previously and all i have to say is they need to drop the lottery system and get more selective.

I think it's exciting... I hadn't heard of half the breweries last year and ended up with a bunch of new favorites.



I'm not really a SAvor person, I'm just repeating what someone on Beer Advocate forums said. They were commenting that this year's crop isn't nearly up to par with previous years, and perhaps the reason is that they select breweries via some kind of lotter system rather than based on some other way.

So here's the beer list. For those who have previously attended, what's your thoughts on the breweries and beers this year compared to previous years?

I still say the events surrounding SAVOR are way better than SAVOR itself.

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beers/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 21, 2016, 02:54:18 pm
Yada, you'd be so proud of me.

Met a friend at Aslin Saturday, my wife told me to bring back "a lot of beer".

I was going to get 32 ounces each of Bringing Sexy Back and Master of Karate. They said they couldn't fill my long neck growlers. So instead I brought home 64 ozs of BSB. $22 for a 6.3 abv ipa. Ouch!

But damn, it was so fucking tasty. Pretty certain I prefer that New England style to the West Coast style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 21, 2016, 03:50:15 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 21, 2016, 02:54:18 pm
Yada, you'd be so proud of me.

Met a friend at Aslin Saturday, my wife told me to bring back "a lot of beer".

I was going to get 32 ounces each of Bringing Sexy Back and Master of Karate. They said they couldn't fill my long neck growlers. So instead I brought home 64 ozs of BSB. $22 for a 6.3 abv ipa. Ouch!

But damn, it was so fucking tasty. Pretty certain I prefer that New England style to the West Coast style.

Nice work... drank a bunch of Master of Karate over the weekend and dare I say.... it was as good as heady, maybe better?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 21, 2016, 04:13:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 21, 2016, 03:50:15 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 21, 2016, 02:54:18 pm
Yada, you'd be so proud of me.

Met a friend at Aslin Saturday, my wife told me to bring back "a lot of beer".

I was going to get 32 ounces each of Bringing Sexy Back and Master of Karate. They said they couldn't fill my long neck growlers. So instead I brought home 64 ozs of BSB. $22 for a 6.3 abv ipa. Ouch!

But damn, it was so fucking tasty. Pretty certain I prefer that New England style to the West Coast style.



Nice work... drank a bunch of Master of Karate over the weekend and dare I say.... it was as good as heady, maybe better?


I sampled that too, I just liked BSB better. My friend preferred Masters. Both top notch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 22, 2016, 01:28:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 21, 2016, 02:51:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 03:06:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 02:48:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 01:35:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Savor Brewery List...

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/

I saw that list previously and all i have to say is they need to drop the lottery system and get more selective.

I think it's exciting... I hadn't heard of half the breweries last year and ended up with a bunch of new favorites.



I'm not really a SAvor person, I'm just repeating what someone on Beer Advocate forums said. They were commenting that this year's crop isn't nearly up to par with previous years, and perhaps the reason is that they select breweries via some kind of lotter system rather than based on some other way.

So here's the beer list. For those who have previously attended, what's your thoughts on the breweries and beers this year compared to previous years?

I still say the events surrounding SAVOR are way better than SAVOR itself.

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beers/

I've only went one year and have the same feelings towards this list. I'll go and enjoy probably 40 samples of beer I've never tried in my life and most likely enjoy 80% of them. 

I think sometimes people forget there are more breweries in the world than the same 20 we blabber about on a daily basis. Would it be nice to have a couple of heavy hitters there, maybe? But those lines would be ridiculous and I've most likely tried most of those beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2016, 01:55:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 22, 2016, 01:28:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 21, 2016, 02:51:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 03:06:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 02:48:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 01:35:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 19, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Savor Brewery List...

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/

I saw that list previously and all i have to say is they need to drop the lottery system and get more selective.

I think it's exciting... I hadn't heard of half the breweries last year and ended up with a bunch of new favorites.



I'm not really a SAvor person, I'm just repeating what someone on Beer Advocate forums said. They were commenting that this year's crop isn't nearly up to par with previous years, and perhaps the reason is that they select breweries via some kind of lotter system rather than based on some other way.

So here's the beer list. For those who have previously attended, what's your thoughts on the breweries and beers this year compared to previous years?

I still say the events surrounding SAVOR are way better than SAVOR itself.

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beers/

I've only went one year and have the same feelings towards this list. I'll go and enjoy probably 40 samples of beer I've never tried in my life and most likely enjoy 80% of them. 

I think sometimes people forget there are more breweries in the world than the same 20 we blabber about on a daily basis. Would it be nice to have a couple of heavy hitters there, maybe? But those lines would be ridiculous and I've most likely tried most of those beers.

Don't sleep on the Melvin 2x4. I pretty much already know that's going to be the best beer I drink on my Wyoming vacation this summer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 24, 2016, 01:37:56 pm

Saturday, April 2 at 6 PM - 10:30 PM

The Last Rewind returns to Ocelot Brewing Company for a night of sweet Phish grooves and jam-inspired brews. Let's keep it simple: 2 Sets of Phish. Phantastic beer. Phinger-licking BBQ. Starts at 6. OK? Ok. Let's do this.


(https://media.giphy.com/media/134CbbASMeRPDa/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2016, 08:55:06 am
ocelot was playing some sweet 90s/00s indie rock when i was there last
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 25, 2016, 09:33:18 am
Quote from: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2016, 08:55:06 am
ocelot was playing some sweet 90s/00s indie rock when i was there last

Same for me first couple of times there. Last couple of times, silence.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on March 25, 2016, 12:17:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2016, 01:55:04 pm

Don't sleep on the Melvin 2x4. I pretty much already know that's going to be the best beer I drink on my Wyoming vacation this summer.

I had the Melvin 4x8 last month and that was really tasty.  I can thank Chad Yakobson again for bringing Melvin to Colorado.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2016, 09:24:46 am
Has anybody been to Pen Druid? Very interesting beer list, and the owners are on Thrill Jockey.
We were thinking of going today following a hike, but the forecast looked too iffy last night so we bagged it for today.

https://www.facebook.com/pendruidbrewing/photos/a.1629129004022210.1073741829.1517347478533697/1710847842516992/?type=3&theater

http://www.pendruid.com/about/



Pen Druid Brewing focuses on mixed and wild fermentation, barrel fermenting and aging, and spontaneous fermentation. The brewery is owned and operated by the three brothers Lain, Van and Jennings Carney who are in the psych-rock band Pontiak.

The brothers have spent nearly a decade traveling North America and Europe, playing music and experiencing the local beer traditions. They've released 10 albums on the legendary Chicago independent record label Thrill Jockey Records. In between tours they would brew beer at home.

The name, Pen Druid, comes from their old family farm which sits on the Thornton River in Rappahannock County, Virginia, just a few miles downstream from the brewery.

In the winter 2015/2016 the brothers isolated their own cocktail of wild yeasts and bacteria from the Virginia Piedmont reflecting the terroir of Rappahannock. And in that spirit of capturing the terroir of the Rappahannock Piedmont, the brothers also began their spontaneous fermentation program which employ two copper-lined coolships.

That same winter the brothers expanded their production and are now brewing on a 5bbl system, using an oak mash tun and open oak barrel fermenters.

They opened Pen Druid Brewing in August 2015 partnering with Jonathan Staples from Black Hops farm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2016, 10:07:57 am
^ looks interesting
isn't this close to you Walky?

look they even named one after you

SPACE - Barrel-fermented and aged Imperial Farmhouse Biere de Miel. Fermented with 60lbs Rappahannock Goldenrod Flower Honey from Windsong Apiary, two Saccharomyces strains, and Brettanomyces Lambicus and Brettanomyces Claussenii.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 27, 2016, 08:04:49 pm
It is roughly close to me, about an hour. I will have to go check it out. There's a Distillery near there as well and some excellent wineries. Also a beautiful part of Virginia.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on March 27, 2016, 08:12:25 pm
that place looks awesome. I am going, next opportunity I get.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2016, 11:36:25 pm
South Florida Beer trail 2.0

Went to the Barrel of Monks (http://www.barrelofmonks.com/) 'you only turn one once' party with a VIP pass and was privy to some extremely flavorful and dynamic brews

It was a hot day for this time of year, so starting off with Hunahpu's Imperial Stout by  Cigar City Brewing (https://cigarcitybrewing.com/) (11%) was a little harsh in the heat, but it was very tasty.  I then had the BoMB 1801 Mocha Koffie Saison...wow was that delicious and quite the pallet cleanser after Hunahpu.  But I threw caution to the wind and got a 1/2 pour of the Hunapu and it went down so much better the second time around...that keg kicked and many were sad.  The White Wizard from BoMB was a great beer for the heat, but what was even better is I went outside and they had a Passion Fruit White Wizard and that was extremely drinkable and a great contrast to the regular.  The PF gave it a tart flavor that wasn't overly sweet and the carb was a little different (in a good way)

It really was a shame it was so hot out as I just couldn't have the Triples and the Quad's as BoMB had about 10 or so variations on tap.  Luckily they had quite a selection of other stuff.

One of my favorites of the day had to be the Odd Breed Wild Ales (https://www.facebook.com/oddbreedwildales/) Dry Hopped Wild Farmhouse Ale.  Was soo good I went back for another...and got the last one of the day.  This really has to be my favorite find.  Crisp and sour with a great body and color.  They were pouring it right out of a mini wooden keg.  Was a little sad I missed their American Flanders and Plums (dark wild ale with plums), but it was excellent to chat with the brewmasters.  They currently couldn't even charge for their beer due to regulations, so they are just at a lot of Craft Beer fests and they can only make money selling merch, so I picked up a sweet workshirt with their logo
 (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/623163752054001664/z0dAeStp.jpg)
But they are working on getting a tap room open in the next year...keep an eye on these guys

Next I went on to the BoMB Nuance Noir, it is a special release ?black saison?
this was one of my favorites, with the light crisp Sasion feel, but a malty/toasty finish.  Could have drank many of these on a hot day

Had a S'tart Mango another BoMB brew that was a really drinkable Lambic.  this was a solid beer, but really got overshadowed with some of the others
Same with the BoMB DB Quad (aged in Rum Barrels), really a delicious beer, but lost in mix of so many good options.

Had a chat with some of the BoBM guys and they were just beaming on how great everything had been going
They used to only have 3 20BBL fermenters going and doing exclusively Beligian styles was making it really hard to keep up with demand as some of them stay in the tank for 2 months.  He said that Cigar City can pump out the Jai Alai in under 10 days in comparison.
In the last few months they added 80 BBL capacity, so they are really pumping out the beers as fast as the Floridians can drink them.

The coup de grâce of the day, taped at the end for the VIP was the J. Wakefield Brewing DFPF
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12383178_1683845358531296_1345532342_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTIxNDczODYzOTUzMDE1MzI0OA%3D%3D.2)
This Dragon Fruit Passion Fruit Berliner really was worth the hype IMO (this beer had Yada's name all over it)
with it's dark pink foam and fuchsia color this was clearly something different than I'd ever had before
it was fruity, but not over the top, sweet and tart
the body was crisp and refreshing with a perfect carb for me and just a little funk that made this beer work perfectly.  Was really glad I got this one and wish I lived closer to JWB.

I also got to hang out with the brewers from Wynwood brewery and meet Pop's who gave the name to Pop's Porter (which I had a loved earlier in the week) They had a Imperial Pop's Porter that was really good, but it was a little thick for the heat.  I can't say I liked it as much as the regular Pop's, but a soild beer nontheless

Finished off the day with another fine SouthFL brewery MIA (http://www.mia.beer/)
they had the Oud Couple on tap.  A Flanders Oud Bruin.  It was tart with a little sour, not too heavy (compared to all the others).  Was fine beer to leave on.
Another brewery that was only 1 years old

The Floridian craft scene is really top notch
I really had no idea how broad and wide it was
Very happy that my parents are down there as that means at least 1 to 2 times a year I'll get to dive deep in these scrumptious malted beverages
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 28, 2016, 08:56:18 am
That moment when sidehutch shows up in your explore users list in instagram... How does the internet work?

That pink drank does indeed look crushable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 28, 2016, 09:17:41 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 27, 2016, 09:24:46 am
http://www.pendruid.com/about/

Place looks killer.... Hopefully I get out there by the year 2022.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 28, 2016, 09:41:52 am
there are so many amazing areas out where I live, just for simple half day exploring trips, that it boggles my mind that people crush their hopes and dreams by living in a city . . . for a job.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 28, 2016, 10:34:12 am
Picked up a case of the Anderson Valley Briney Melon Gose,  now out in cans,  to hold me over til the Victory Cherry comes out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2016, 12:53:15 pm
this past weekend's brew-a-thon was brought to me by Undercover Shutdown Ale, Space Dust and Duvel... and a few homebrews (takes some to make some).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 12:45:39 pm
For the Founders fans in the house....

The Official DC Launch of @FoundersBrewing KBS 2016 at @ChurchKeyDC
Join us on Friday, April 1st as ChurchKey hosts the official DC area launch of the inimitable Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout! On this night, we will feature no less than 20 beers from the Michigan brewery, including 7 uber-rare vintage beers from our cellar.
 
One of our very favorite releases of the year, Kentucky Breakfast Stout is brewed with a massive amount of coffee and chocolate, then cave-aged in oak Bourbon barrels for an entire year until it is absolutely perfect. Be sure to come on by to taste the first keg of KBS 2016!
 
And to further celebrate this special occasion, beer director Greg Engert dove deep into our cellar to personally select 7 very special vintage beers that we will pour from bottle during the event. Notables include Bolt Cutter 2012, a bold Barleywine aged in Bourbon and maple syrup barrels; Backwoods Bastard 2014, a big, delicious Wee Heavy cave-aged in oak Bourbon barrels; and Big Lushious 2014, a deep, rich Imperial Stout brewed with tart raspberries.
 
There is no admission fee for this event and all Founders drafts will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours.
 
The Official Founders KBS 2016 DC Release List:
Founders KBS 2016
Founders Bolt Cutter 2012 (Bottle Pour)
Founders Better Half 2012 (Bottle Pour)
Founders Founders Imperial Stout 2012 (Bottle Pour)
Founders Sweet Repute 2013 (Bottle Pour)
Founders Backwoods Bastard 2014 (Bottle Pour)
Founders Big Lushious 2014 (Bottle Pour)
Founders Blushing Monk 2015 (Bottle Pour)
Founders Mango Magnifico 2016
Founders Mosaic Promise
Founders Old Curmudgeon
Founders Rubeaus
Founders Imperial Stout
Founders Dark Penance
Founders All Day IPA
Founders Centennial IPA
Founders Red?s RyePA
Founders Porter
Founders Nitro Oatmeal Stout
Founders Dirty Bastard
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 12:58:40 pm
Can't find the Sidehutch post about the Ocelot anniversary party, but ticket on sale now.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/ocelot-brewing-1-year-anniversary-party-tickets-24050813631

$25 gets you 8 five ounce pours (bring a driver?), though if you choose the barrel aged stuff you get less pours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 29, 2016, 01:29:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 12:45:39 pm
For the Founders fans in the house....

Founders Sweet Repute 2013 (Bottle Pour)

might have to make it out to taste this one again.  i got two bottles back when it was released, excellent stuff.  the missus is going to be pissed that she won't be able to enjoy it again...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 01:39:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 29, 2016, 01:29:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 12:45:39 pm
For the Founders fans in the house....

Founders Sweet Repute 2013 (Bottle Pour)

might have to make it out to taste this one again.  i got two bottles back when it was released, excellent stuff.  the missus is going to be pissed that she won't be able to enjoy it again...

My employer is giving us an optional telework day that day. That's my wife's normal telework day. My wife is offering daytime sex with no kid in the house if i stay home and telework (and do a couple of easy errands) with her.

But damnit, it's KBS on draft. (and maybe bottles to go at P Street WF, who knows?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 29, 2016, 03:03:54 pm
uhh... i'm kinda speechless about your wife's daytime offers of intimacy, so i'll focus on:

Quote from: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 01:39:20 pm
But damnit, it's KBS on draft.

last time i had KBS on draft was 2 or 3 years ago with brennser and stevewizzle.  we were somewhat underwhelmed.  it was hot, the alcohol heat hid the finer points of the beer.  i'm more excited about the sweet repute and better half.

assuming that KBS bottles will be about $10 each (maybe $30 a four pack if lucky), imma gonna hafta think long and hard about whether or not it's worth the price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 03:28:15 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 29, 2016, 03:03:54 pm
uhh... i'm kinda speechless about your wife's daytime offers of intimacy, so i'll focus on:

Quote from: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 01:39:20 pm
But damnit, it's KBS on draft.

last time i had KBS on draft was 2 or 3 years ago with brennser and stevewizzle.  we were somewhat underwhelmed.  it was hot, the alcohol heat hid the finer points of the beer.  i'm more excited about the sweet repute and better half.

assuming that KBS bottles will be about $10 each (maybe $30 a four pack if lucky), imma gonna hafta think long and hard about whether or not it's worth the price.

I last had KBS at the big pre-Savor Founders/Fremont event at Meridian Pint last year. KBS came in a respectable third to CBS and Bournon Abominable. But I had no complaints.

I managed to get an intact four pack last year for $20, as well as a couple of singles for about $6.50. Ah, have to love the cheaper prices of the burbs. But last year I was off for Spring Break with my daughter the week it was released. This year I'll be at work all week, where I can't bring beer into the building, so doubt I'll get any.

I *think* I've had Ill Repute and Better Half, though I sort of lose track...both excellent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 03:54:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 03, 2016, 02:59:41 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 19, 2016, 04:58:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2016, 04:34:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on February 19, 2016, 04:18:20 pm
I guess Stone Brewery in Richmond had their soft-opening of their new facilities this afternoon. . .

Looks like the brewery itself won't be brewing beer until June/July, and the brewpub won't open for another couple years...

Any word on the street when the Veil will open?

I also saw that the Answer is expanding...great...we'll have even more space to ourselves the next time we're there. Been there twice, huge space, amazing beer (theirs and others), but completely empty both times.
They're saying "brewed in RVA" beer by May, apparently. Yes, its just the tasting room that's open.

I can ask someone more in the know re: Veil.

Looks like they're doing their first brew tomorrow...

https://www.facebook.com/theveilbrewing/photos/a.895152767235572.1073741829.829480530469463/957663150984533/?type=3&theater

Opening day for the Veil is 4/16. Will definitely check it out the next time we're in Richmond. That guy has cred to burn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on March 29, 2016, 03:54:40 pm
Does anyone know when KBS will hit stores?  I've still not tried it and would love to get some.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 29, 2016, 05:39:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 03:28:15 pm
I last had KBS at the big pre-Savor Founders/Fremont event at Meridian Pint last year.

savor = mid-june, so the KBS was 3 or 4 months old at that point... likely helped, if there was any alcohol heat.  but maybe there was none, maybe that one year when i had it on draft was an exception.  it's never tasted hot in the bottle to me.

i think o got two singles last year, forget how much but it was definitely more than $6.50... probably closer to 9. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 30, 2016, 11:59:02 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 29, 2016, 03:03:54 pm
uhh... i'm kinda speechless about your wife's daytime offers of intimacy, so i'll focus on:

Quote from: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 01:39:20 pm
But damnit, it's KBS on draft.

last time i had KBS on draft was 2 or 3 years ago with brennser and stevewizzle.  we were somewhat underwhelmed.  it was hot, the alcohol heat hid the finer points of the beer.  i'm more excited about the sweet repute and better half.

assuming that KBS bottles will be about $10 each (maybe $30 a four pack if lucky), imma gonna hafta think long and hard about whether or not it's worth the price.

I remember doing a KBS vertical awhile back. Then we had a '13 BCBS and it blew all of the KBS away. I just had another BCBS '13 at a friend's house a few weeks ago and it was perfection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 30, 2016, 01:04:44 pm
http://www.mensjournal.com/food-drink/drinks/is-that-really-craft-beer-21-surprising-corporate-brewers-20150923

The only surprising one on this list is Founders.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2016, 06:56:46 pm
yet another beer to cash in on the vinyl craze
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12418070_968087216639874_7724140820031941074_n.jpg?oh=16e46ff866c6d9f33a69eaa85a83a94d&oe=57789BA2)
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on February 29, 2016, 01:42:35 pm
like the name/logo of their new Belgian-Style Tripel
not sure how it will taste tho

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12803034_1140723079285143_874849446190084034_n.png?oh=c40c0a8b13a1d3861d694c64353c050e&oe=5770305E)
Join us on Tuesday March 1st at 5 PM for the tapping of the new beers joining the lineup, the Romantic Chemistry and Beer To Drink Music To
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 30, 2016, 08:15:03 pm
"Craze"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 30, 2016, 08:59:19 pm
Speaking of great Lakes, i just bought chillwave.  I hope it is good.  And stone, enjoy by 4 / 20.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2016, 09:11:37 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on March 30, 2016, 08:59:19 pm
Speaking of great Lakes, i just bought chillwave.  I hope it is good.  And stone, enjoy by 4 / 20.

Let us know which of those two you prefer. Strong preference here for Enjoy By, though Chillwave is ok.

Tonight we'll be splitting a Victory at Sea if my kid ever goes to bed.

Tomorrow it will be a MD vs VA DIPA faceoff....Union Double Duckpin vs. Champion Fruitbasket.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2016, 09:15:43 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 28, 2016, 12:53:15 pm
this past weekend's brew-a-thon was brought to me by Undercover Shutdown Ale, Space Dust and Duvel... and a few homebrews (takes some to make some).

Had a single of the Shutdown Ale...all of those high abv Lagunitas kind of run together for me so I'm not sure if i've had that one before or not...but I really liked it. May have to get more, though it's not really a Spring/Summer beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2016, 09:34:49 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on March 30, 2016, 08:59:19 pm
Speaking of great Lakes, i just bought chillwave.  I hope it is good.  And stone, enjoy by 4 / 20.

I think it was 2014 that I drank a ton of chillwave and loved it... last year every time I saw a six pack around the city it was already 60 days old, so I typically passed.

I haven't drank an enjoy by in a few years, rubbish.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2016, 09:44:28 am
Quote from: Yada on March 31, 2016, 09:34:49 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on March 30, 2016, 08:59:19 pm
Speaking of great Lakes, i just bought chillwave.  I hope it is good.  And stone, enjoy by 4 / 20.

I think it was 2014 that I drank a ton of chillwave and loved it... last year every time I saw a six pack around the city it was already 60 days old, so I typically passed.

I haven't drank an enjoy by in a few years, rubbish.

He complains about the lack of freshness of one DIPA, then pans the one nationally distributed DIPA that is bound to be fresh on 3/30/16. Some people are just whiners. Go drink some wine, whiner.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2016, 10:07:03 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 31, 2016, 09:44:28 am
Quote from: Yada on March 31, 2016, 09:34:49 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on March 30, 2016, 08:59:19 pm
Speaking of great Lakes, i just bought chillwave.  I hope it is good.  And stone, enjoy by 4 / 20.

I think it was 2014 that I drank a ton of chillwave and loved it... last year every time I saw a six pack around the city it was already 60 days old, so I typically passed.

I haven't drank an enjoy by in a few years, rubbish.

He complains about the lack of freshness of one DIPA, then pans the one nationally distributed DIPA that is bound to be fresh on 3/30/16. Some people are just whiners. Go drink some wine, whiner.  ;)

Because that "fresh" DIPA tastes like shit!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on March 31, 2016, 10:25:56 am
I enjoy this banter.  it makes me want to go have a beer, at ten thirty in the morning.  I just noticed, the clock on here has finally, caught back up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2016, 10:47:51 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on March 31, 2016, 10:25:56 am
I enjoy this banter.  it makes me want to go have a beer, at ten thirty in the morning.  I just noticed, the clock on here has finally, caught back up.

I feel ya walky... been trying to cut down my week day/night drinks though. I did drink a 16oz heady topper last night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 10:59:28 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 29, 2016, 03:03:54 pm
uhh... i'm kinda speechless about your wife's daytime offers of intimacy, so i'll focus on:

Quote from: Space Freely on March 29, 2016, 01:39:20 pm
But damnit, it's KBS on draft.

last time i had KBS on draft was 2 or 3 years ago with brennser and stevewizzle.  we were somewhat underwhelmed.  it was hot, the alcohol heat hid the finer points of the beer.  i'm more excited about the sweet repute and better half.

assuming that KBS bottles will be about $10 each (maybe $30 a four pack if lucky), imma gonna hafta think long and hard about whether or not it's worth the price.

So teleworking and skipping KBS at Churchkey today. Will have to wash away the sorrow of missing it with the growler of Rodenbach Vintage that's in the fridge.

Also, KBS is coming in on the truck today to a store in upstgate New York where my mom lives. I've got her on the case. Or at least onto a four pack...or whatever they'll sell her. Bound to be less competition to score bottles up there than here...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2016, 11:34:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 10:59:28 am
Also, KBS is coming in on the truck today to a store in upstgate New York where my mom lives. I've got her on the case. Or at least onto a four pack...or whatever they'll sell her. Bound to be less competition to score bottles up there than here...
How pissed is Space going to be when his mom's scores a case of this
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Wb7fnCaHL._AC_UL320_SR160,320_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2016, 02:15:20 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 10:59:28 am
So teleworking and skipping KBS at Churchkey today. Will have to wash away the sorrow of missing it with the growler of Rodenbach Vintage that's in the fridge.

i'm going to miss it too.  i'm making up for it by having a few sours from the cellar (need to funk up some beer, so i need the bugs ;D)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 03:05:34 pm
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 01, 2016, 11:34:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 10:59:28 am
Also, KBS is coming in on the truck today to a store in upstgate New York where my mom lives. I've got her on the case. Or at least onto a four pack...or whatever they'll sell her. Bound to be less competition to score bottles up there than here...
How pissed is Space going to be when his mom's scores a case of this
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Wb7fnCaHL._AC_UL320_SR160,320_.jpg)

And my mom is officially a beer mule. $23.99+tax+deposit for a four pack. Could also ask my brother too, but maybe that would be greedy and he's busy with a job and shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 01, 2016, 03:07:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 03:05:34 pm
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 01, 2016, 11:34:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 10:59:28 am
Also, KBS is coming in on the truck today to a store in upstgate New York where my mom lives. I've got her on the case. Or at least onto a four pack...or whatever they'll sell her. Bound to be less competition to score bottles up there than here...
How pissed is Space going to be when his mom's scores a case of this
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Wb7fnCaHL._AC_UL320_SR160,320_.jpg)

And my mom is officially a beer mule. $23.99+tax+deposit for a four pack. Could also ask my brother too, but maybe that would be greedy and he's busy with a job and shit.

Blessings to you and your family for spending such a chunk of $$$ on this endeavor!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 04:08:11 pm
Grossest beer name of the year

He'Brew Cir Cum Session Ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 01, 2016, 04:30:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 04:08:11 pm
Grossest beer name of the year

He'Brew Cir Cum Session Ale

something about Grunion Pale Ale makes me not even want to try it.

Grundle + onion flavored beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2016, 04:38:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 01, 2016, 02:15:20 pm
i'm making up for it by having a few sours from the cellar (need to funk up some beer, so i need the bugs ;D)

on deck:
- Cantillon Kriek (2 years old)
- Paradox no. 34
- Almanac Dogpatch Sour (at least a year old)
- Alvinne Omega
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 07:55:03 pm
Chillwave, is good, sort of on par with other good beers of the sort.  But, enjoy by weed day beer, stands out and destroys.  I want to get as much as possible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 08:06:34 pm
also, I tried a sort of sour beer, as it is called, from boulevard, tell tale tart.  I liked it and now have this sort of passion to get into sour beers, having never really tried sour beer or know much about them.  basically, where should I go to next for an excellent sour in bottle from a beer store, that sells good beer and rips you off on the price, just like any small business owner, will.  thank you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2016, 08:58:41 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 08:06:34 pm
also, I tried a sort of sour beer, as it is called, from boulevard, tell tale tart.  I liked it and now have this sort of passion to get into sour beers, having never really tried sour beer or know much about them.  basically, where should I go to next for an excellent sour in bottle from a beer store, that sells good beer and rips you off on the price, just like any small business owner, will.  thank you.

the problem with us making recommendations is that we have no idea what you have access to.  you could talk to the folks at the beer store.  maybe someone there can recommend something that they have in stock.

tell tale tart is on the low side of sourness.  just giving you a heads-up before you end up with something really, really sour (unless you think you're going to like the intensity).  just like with hops, i find that most folks work their way up (down?)  the ladder.  i would enquire about "gose" and "berliner wiesse", two nice and tart styles.  Ommegang's Rosetta is another nice one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 09:08:27 pm
aren't you all helpful.  thank you.  I bet all the beer ladies, throw themselves, at you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2016, 09:51:58 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 09:08:27 pm
I bet all the beer ladies
all the beer ladies...that term doesn't exist
(I know that's sexist, but I saw more women at punk shows in the 80s than you do at a beer event/brewery)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 10:00:16 pm
Wifes, of beer nerds.  There.  They all want to hop your homebrew bone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 10:47:13 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 09:08:27 pm
aren't you all helpful.  thank you.  I bet all the beer ladies, throw themselves, at you.

Victory Kirsch Gose seasonal is just being released. That's another good intro sour-sh beer that should be widely available.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on April 03, 2016, 01:22:56 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 08:06:34 pm
also, I tried a sort of sour beer, as it is called, from boulevard, tell tale tart.  I liked it and now have this sort of passion to get into sour beers, having never really tried sour beer or know much about them.  basically, where should I go to next for an excellent sour in bottle from a beer store, that sells good beer and rips you off on the price, just like any small business owner, will.  thank you.

try Duchesse De Bourgogne (if you can get it where you are) and don't look back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 09:13:14 am
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 01, 2016, 09:51:58 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 09:08:27 pm
I bet all the beer ladies
all the beer ladies...that term doesn't exist
(I know that's sexist, but I saw more women at punk shows in the 80s than you do at a beer event/brewery)


Just because you can't get your wife to set foot in a brewery doesn't mean all women hate beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 09:17:39 am
Quote from: Yada on April 01, 2016, 03:07:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 03:05:34 pm
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 01, 2016, 11:34:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2016, 10:59:28 am
Also, KBS is coming in on the truck today to a store in upstgate New York where my mom lives. I've got her on the case. Or at least onto a four pack...or whatever they'll sell her. Bound to be less competition to score bottles up there than here...
How pissed is Space going to be when his mom's scores a case of this
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Wb7fnCaHL._AC_UL320_SR160,320_.jpg)

And my mom is officially a beer mule. $23.99+tax+deposit for a four pack. Could also ask my brother too, but maybe that would be greedy and he's busy with a job and shit.

Blessings to you and your family for spending such a chunk of $$$ on this endeavor!

And I was greedy after all. They still had four packs left on the second day and it was my brother's day off, and his plans included driving right by the shop anyway...so what the hell, why not.

Speaking of chunks of $$$, went to Aslin again Saturday. With apologies to Ocelot, I think they're officially making the best IPA's in the DMV. Maybe even all of VA, though An Bui may have something to say in the matter.

And speaking of VA IPA's...it's long gone from stores now, but the Champion Fruit Basket DIPA from Charlottesville was pretty damn good. Sad I only bought a single.

That's my weekend beer roundup. Back to drinking six ounces a night on weeknights.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2016, 09:33:32 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 09:13:14 am
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 01, 2016, 09:51:58 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 09:08:27 pm
I bet all the beer ladies
all the beer ladies...that term doesn't exist
(I know that's sexist, but I saw more women at punk shows in the 80s than you do at a beer event/brewery)


Just because you can't get your wife to set foot in a brewery doesn't mean all women hate beer.
she's been to a few...but embarrassingly asks what wine they have
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 09:40:19 am
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 04, 2016, 09:33:32 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 09:13:14 am
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 01, 2016, 09:51:58 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 09:08:27 pm
I bet all the beer ladies
all the beer ladies...that term doesn't exist
(I know that's sexist, but I saw more women at punk shows in the 80s than you do at a beer event/brewery)




Just because you can't get your wife to set foot in a brewery doesn't mean all women hate beer.
she's been to a few...but embarrassingly asks what wine they have

Ouch! Maybe you could order her a sour and tell her it's a new variety of wine.

My wife was into hoppy beers long before I was even into beer. Exception to the rule it seems. But as Hutch established long ago, she's the one who wears the pants in the relationship.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2016, 01:11:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
I didn't it was only on tap and they only had a soda keg worth
benifits of VIP
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2016, 01:11:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 09:40:19 am
she's the one who wears the pants in the relationship.
so what do you wear...a pantsuit?
I know you are a hillary fan
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 01:24:44 pm
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 04, 2016, 01:11:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 09:40:19 am
she's the one who wears the pants in the relationship.
so what do you wear...a pantsuit?
I know you are a hillary fan

You'll have to ask Hutch what i wear, he's the one who declared it. Today I'm wearing a pair of gray (I think) Gap khakis. Not my nicest pants, but I'm carrying a little extra (keeping it on topic, beer) weight these days and these are one of my pairs of fat pants.

I'm definitely not a Hillary fan. More like a "hold my nose and pull the lever for Hillary" person, as I find Bernie too liberal and the entire Republican party too conservative.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 04, 2016, 01:25:32 pm
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 04, 2016, 01:11:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
I didn't it was only on tap and they only had a soda keg worth
benifits of VIP

should've tracked down some bottles, brah!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2016, 01:33:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 01:25:32 pm
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 04, 2016, 01:11:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
I didn't it was only on tap and they only had a soda keg worth
benifits of VIP

should've tracked down some bottles, brah!
If you want to PM me your home address and set up a paymet transfer, I can be sure to get my Cuz to ship you some.  He goes there all the time
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 01:33:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 01:25:32 pm
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 04, 2016, 01:11:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
I didn't it was only on tap and they only had a soda keg worth
benifits of VIP

should've tracked down some bottles, brah!

Would have been perfect for the Forum bottle share at Yada's house.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 04, 2016, 01:37:24 pm
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Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
I didn't it was only on tap and they only had a soda keg worth
benifits of VIP

should've tracked down some bottles, brah!
If you want to PM me your home address and set up a paymet transfer, I can be sure to get my Cuz to ship you some.  He goes there all the time

Hmmm... if you're serious, I'm intrigued...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2016, 01:42:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 01:37:24 pm
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Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
I didn't it was only on tap and they only had a soda keg worth
benifits of VIP

should've tracked down some bottles, brah!
If you want to PM me your home address and set up a paymet transfer, I can be sure to get my Cuz to ship you some.  He goes there all the time

Hmmm... if you're serious, I'm intrigued...
Lemme reach out to my cuz and see if he's willing to take this on
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2016, 01:42:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 01:33:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 01:25:32 pm
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Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
I didn't it was only on tap and they only had a soda keg worth
benifits of VIP

should've tracked down some bottles, brah!

Would have been perfect for the Forum bottle share at Yada's house.
Think my invite got lost in the mail
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 04, 2016, 01:49:28 pm
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 04, 2016, 01:42:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2016, 01:33:50 pm
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Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
I didn't it was only on tap and they only had a soda keg worth
benifits of VIP

should've tracked down some bottles, brah!

Would have been perfect for the Forum bottle share at Yada's house.
Think my invite got lost in the mail


I've never had a "forum" bottle share, but...

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2016, 10:04:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 01:25:32 pm
Quote from: SideBernt |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 04, 2016, 01:11:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2016, 12:12:21 pm
sidehutch, did you bring home any bottles of that j wakefield dfpf?
I didn't it was only on tap and they only had a soda keg worth
benifits of VIP

should've tracked down some bottles, brah!
pretty much a purple unicorn
found this guy listing one for $150 (http://www.mybeercollectibles.com/listing/j-wakefield-brewing-dragon-fruit-passion-fruit-dfpf/136150) if you really want it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2016, 10:43:39 am
Quote from: Unsanity on April 03, 2016, 01:22:56 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 08:06:34 pm
also, I tried a sort of sour beer, as it is called, from boulevard, tell tale tart.  I liked it and now have this sort of passion to get into sour beers, having never really tried sour beer or know much about them.  basically, where should I go to next for an excellent sour in bottle from a beer store, that sells good beer and rips you off on the price, just like any small business owner, will.  thank you.

try Duchesse De Bourgogne (if you can get it where you are) and don't look back.

eh, la duchesse can be hit or miss.  i've had a few with diacetyl (buttery flavor) but most are fine.  but even when the beer is what it's supposed to be, i don't find it that interesting.  it's got a strong acetic character (think vinegar) that the beer attempts to balance with some sweetness, and not much else.  sort of a one-trick pony.  if you're in to that particular trick then it's awesome, but i like sours with more complexity (like brett characteristics which this beer seems to lack).

i mean, give it a try, but in case it isn't your thing don't cast all other sours aside.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2016, 10:48:52 am
the one that turned me on to sours was "monks cafe"
great flemish sour that got me hooked on da funk
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2016, 11:06:19 am
I'm partial to Flanders Reds when it comes to sours:

Rodenbach Vintage
Rodenbach Grand Cru
Rodenbach Caractere
Cuvee des Jacobins Rouge
Bruery Oude Tart
Panil Bariquee
New Belgium La Folie (technically a sour brown ale but close enough)

The Duchesse is ok, but a bit too sweet for the style to me.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 06, 2016, 12:04:55 pm
never buy beer from a little ole market out in the middle of nowhere.  I was driving around doing work, and saw this place and it was neat and they sold beer, mostly ok selection for snobs but decent for people who want more than what food lion is trying to do.  go, check out food lion and see what I mean.  well they had troegs nugget nectar, one six pack left.  I said, nice, this is last time I will see that this year so sure, I will buy it.  the lady rang up each beer as the individual sale price of $3, and then did some weird discount, for a grand total of $17 with tax.  I just sat there, not knowing what to do; should I go into bitchfit mode and lay into her, throwing the beer back onto the shelf for I did not want to pay $17 for beer.

no . . . I just handed her my card and thought, ok, whatever, it is a nice day, and this is a, was, a nice place, and I won't see the beer again til next time it comes out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2016, 12:16:40 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 06, 2016, 12:04:55 pm
never buy beer from a little ole market out in the middle of nowhere.  I was driving around doing work, and saw this place and it was neat and they sold beer, mostly ok selection for snobs but decent for people who want more than what food lion is trying to do.  go, check out food lion and see what I mean.  well they had troegs nugget nectar, one six pack left.  I said, nice, this is last time I will see that this year so sure, I will buy it.  the lady rang up each beer as the individual sale price of $3, and then did some weird discount, for a grand total of $17 with tax.  I just sat there, not knowing what to do; should I go into bitchfit mode and lay into her, throwing the beer back onto the shelf for I did not want to pay $17 for beer.

no . . . I just handed her my card and thought, ok, whatever, it is a nice day, and this is a, was, a nice place, and I won't see the beer again til next time it comes out.

They were probably charging extra because they aged it for you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2016, 12:19:29 pm
funny.......#WorldHealthDay & #NationalBeerDay are on the same day
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 07, 2016, 06:16:40 pm
Since it's National Beer Day I'm sipping a National Beer in a National Bohemian pilsner glass and saluting my dad, who worked for them in some capacity for 39 years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2016, 12:27:26 pm
Hey Sweetcell, BCBS on draft at WFFB. Now. It's Friday. I'm just sayin'.

I had to celebrate my one year since my root canal and no problems yet dental appointment somehow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2016, 12:46:58 pm
So on Wednesday I got all excited as The Brew Shop in Arlington posted on their Instagram account that they had some KBS in stock at noon
I cut out of work a little early...and she was like...you would have had to had been here by 1 pm buddy
:(

but I am going to swing by tonight to pick up a growler
you all have been loving Ocelot ....opinions on their Lost Angel IPA

also it's flying dog 'tasting' so they have Flying Dog Smoked Belgian Stout - An awesome roast bomb from Flying Dog'sBrewhouse Rarities series. Smoke, coffee, cocoa...deliciousness
and I was thinking of getting that instead


also had the Anderson Valley Briney Melon Gose last night
not as good as the Kimmy
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2016, 12:53:10 pm
The beer at Aslin is so damn good that Ocelot has sort of fallen off my radar. I'm struggling to stop myself from going to Aslin for the second weekend in a row and dropping $40 on beer.

That said, if it's an Ocelot IPA, it won't be anything short of very good, and possibly will be excellent.

Ocelot's anniversary party (4/30) tickets on sale now. I won't be going.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 08, 2016, 01:07:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 08, 2016, 12:27:26 pm
Hey Sweetcell, BCBS on draft at WFFB. Now. It's Friday. I'm just sayin'.

I had to celebrate my one year since my root canal and no problems yet dental appointment somehow.

you marched all the way over to foggy bottom??  it's a decent lil' walk for you, innit?

WFFB used to be really good about keeping their beermenus page up to date.  since they lost their beer buyer, they might update it once a month.  maybe.  so useless.  how did you find out they had BCBS there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2016, 01:09:48 pm
Probably going to be a shitshow, but Dominion in Falls Church has KBS tonight...you get to choose between two bottles, or a 32 oz growler fill.

Is there any real difference on these barrel aged beers on draft vs. out of the bottle? If it were some hotshit IPA I'd probably choose draft, but as it is I might opt for the bottle.

That's if I lived in Falls Church. I don't, and can't be there at 5pm so the point is moot. But maybe some of you do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2016, 01:12:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 08, 2016, 01:07:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 08, 2016, 12:27:26 pm
Hey Sweetcell, BCBS on draft at WFFB. Now. It's Friday. I'm just sayin'.

I had to celebrate my one year since my root canal and no problems yet dental appointment somehow.

you marched all the way over to foggy bottom??  it's a decent lil' walk for you, innit?

WFFB used to be really good about keeping their beermenus page up to date.  since they lost their beer buyer, they might update it once a month.  maybe.  so useless.  how did you find out they had BCBS there?

I had a 11am dental appointment over there. One year since I got a root canal. They had told me they'd try the root canal first but the odds were I'd have to have the tooth pulled before a year was over. One year passed, and tooth got a clean bill of health. Tooth needed some BCBS to help it celebrate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 08, 2016, 01:59:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 08, 2016, 01:09:48 pm
Is there any real difference on these barrel aged beers on draft vs. out of the bottle? If it were some hotshit IPA I'd probably choose draft, but as it is I might opt for the bottle.

yes, there is a difference.  kegging beer is a gentler process than filling bottles, when done right.  so the beer in the keg could potentially be in better shape.  kegs are often kept refrigerated while bottles linger out in the heat.

you're right, big barrel-aged beer vs. IPA changes the equation... won't matter quite as much given this is KBS.  that being said, i've had both BCBS (going for a walk soon!) and BCBSBW in both bottles and on tap, and they are noticeably different.  i definitely prefer BCBSBW from a bottle.

the most important consideration, IMO, should be post-purchase preservation.  bottles will last a long time.   the growler will need to be drunk relatively quickly.  if you're ok with downing 32 oz in the next few days, go for that - you're getting 32 oz instead of 24.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 08, 2016, 02:03:15 pm
believe it or not, Gordon Biersch's imperial IPA is pretty darn tasty and I usually can't stand their stuff
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 08, 2016, 05:07:22 pm
had me a full pour of BCBS.  the poor guy behind the bar had no idea what he was doing, took him 4 or 5 attempts to fill my growler of Matilda, and he panicked when pouring my BCBS and gave me a full 12/14/16 oz (whatever their big cups are at WFFB).

also snagged a bottle of KBS.  one of the staffers gave up one of their own for me.  i'm gradually warming up to the new beer crew there ;D

Quote from: Bagley on April 08, 2016, 02:03:15 pm
believe it or not, Gordon Biersch's imperial IPA is pretty darn tasty and I usually can't stand their stuff

which GB did you have that at?

i recently learned that brewers at most GBs have a decent amount of autonomy.  they need to brew the basics, but beyond those flagship german lagers they can do whatever they want as long as it meets quality standards.  and GB gets some highly trained & technically excellent brewers.  if you go to brewing school, GB is a plush gig to land.  if you didn't go to brewing school, you aren't working at GBs as a brewer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 08, 2016, 05:10:08 pm
Rockville town center
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 09, 2016, 11:26:03 am
New joint opening up the road in Brookeville

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2016, 04:58:27 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 08, 2016, 12:46:58 pm
flying Dog Smoked Belgian Stout - An awesome roast bomb from Flying Dog'sBrewhouse Rarities series. Smoke, coffee, cocoa...deliciousness
So I ended up getting this FD smoked Belgian stout...very good stuff definitely smoky, but in a good way
and at $12 a growler... quite the deal

Tried a taste of the Ocelot IPA and it was good...but was feeling very Space cost conscious and $18 was more than I wanted to spend at the time
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 09, 2016, 09:08:41 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on April 09, 2016, 11:26:03 am
New joint opening up the road in Brookeville

Need this to be great. Not good. Great
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 10, 2016, 09:15:09 am
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 08, 2016, 12:46:58 pm
but I am going to swing by tonight to pick up a growler
you all have been loving Ocelot ....opinions on their Lost Angel IPA

As Space said Aslin is sort of blowing Ocelot out of the water lately, albeit with a radically different style of IPA. That being said I found Lost Angel to be one of their least impressive offerings
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 10, 2016, 09:38:47 am
I had another great local beer (IMO) out of Rockville...VA (just outside Richmond?)
Midnight's Not My Job Southern English Brown Ale

Typically don't ever get brown ales, but this was almost black with a coffee/toffee taste
predicibly got (mostly) poor reviews on BA/RA, but it's got my seal of approval
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 10, 2016, 09:41:50 am
Quote from: brennser on April 10, 2016, 09:15:09 am
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 08, 2016, 12:46:58 pm
but I am going to swing by tonight to pick up a growler
you all have been loving Ocelot ....opinions on their Lost Angel IPA

As Space said Aslin is sort of blowing Ocelot out of the water lately, albeit with a radically different style of IPA. That being said I found Lost Angel to be one of their least impressive offerings
That's good news to me..as time to start biking the WO&D and they are about 1/2 mile off it
Ocelot is pretty inconvenient for me to get to, so was happy they had it for growler fills locally
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 10, 2016, 09:00:11 pm
...made it to Aslin today
Had the Stellar Parallax DIPA...perfection
yes these guys are doing it right, such a small operation
Mile marker 18.5 ...the trip home was surely a little slower

Love the crowler, next time I'm brining one home
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 11, 2016, 09:24:22 am
tried this, yes just because of the labeling.  not bad, not awesome; the labeling is better.  should have been used on an epic beer that snobs steal from their mother to get.

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on April 12, 2016, 10:11:31 am
I was able to get a few bottles of KBS.  Most places were limiting customers to one or two bottles.  I ended up drinking a 2015 KBS I had cellared for the year, but haven't cracked one from this year yet.  Anyone tried it?  What do you think?  This was my first time trying it.  I thought it was very good, but overall, I think I prefer BCBS. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2016, 10:48:02 am
another one bites the dust to the big boys
Anheuser-Busch to Acquire Devils Backbone[/URL}
 (http://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-acquire-devils-backbone)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 01:29:15 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 12, 2016, 10:48:02 am
another one bites the dust to the big boys
Anheuser-Busch to Acquire Devils Backbone[/URL}

 (http://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-acquire-devils-backbone)

Was just going to post this.

Guess i won't be buying their nice Adventure pack anymore. Wonder if there will be an Adventure pack anymore, as collaborating with Devils Backbone will now mean collaborating with AB-InBev.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 12, 2016, 01:35:53 pm
not much . . . of a loss.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 01:43:13 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 12, 2016, 01:35:53 pm
not much . . . of a loss.

From a quality perspective, I agree. From a business perspective, well I guess we would need stevewizzle hear to break it down.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2016, 02:34:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 01:43:13 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 12, 2016, 01:35:53 pm
not much . . . of a loss.

From a quality perspective, I agree. From a business perspective, well I guess we would need stevewizzle hear to break it down.
I miss the Wizz....can someone tell that fart sound to come back

and yeah...can't think of a 'to die for' DB brew.  But I've only had a few
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 03:02:03 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 12, 2016, 02:34:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 01:43:13 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 12, 2016, 01:35:53 pm
not much . . . of a loss.

From a quality perspective, I agree. From a business perspective, well I guess we would need stevewizzle hear to break it down.
I miss the Wizz....can someone tell that fart sound to come back

and yeah...can't think of a 'to die for' DB brew.  But I've only had a few

I don't blame the Wizz for moving on. He's a Seattle dweller now.

If someone got both my wife and I jobs in Seattle that both paid in the six figures, I'd move there and never post on this forum again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2016, 03:06:47 pm
what does salary and location have to do with posting on this forum??
heck a large percentage of people don't even see shows at the 930 club on this board
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 12, 2016, 03:46:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 01:43:13 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 12, 2016, 01:35:53 pm
not much . . . of a loss.

From a quality perspective, I agree.

DB makes amazing, by-the-book beers.  if vienna lagers were "in", we'd all be singing the praises of DB.  unfortunately they don't specialize in over-the-top IPAs, or bourbon barrel aged anything, or sours, etc...

DB wins tons of awards for making perfect examples of german and english styles.  unfortunately they aren't very exciting styles per the market.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 03:55:11 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 12, 2016, 03:46:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 01:43:13 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 12, 2016, 01:35:53 pm
not much . . . of a loss.

From a quality perspective, I agree.

DB makes amazing, by-the-book beers.  if vienna lagers were "in", we'd all be singing the praises of DB.  unfortunately they don't specialize in over-the-top IPAs, or bourbon barrel aged anything, or sours, etc...

DB wins tons of awards for making perfect examples of german and english styles.  unfortunately they aren't very exciting styles per the market.

Oh puh-leeze. Their IPA isn't even in the top 100 among IPA's I've tried.

Quick! Name a brewery who has been "doing it for years" that doesn't have a shit ton of medals. This is the most every kid wins a medal industry in America.

What's so special about "brewing to style"? This is America, not Germany. If every brewer brewed to style, all beers in a style would taste the same. If all pizzas were made "to style" all pizzas would the same. If all dark chocolates were brewed "to style", all dark chocolates would be the same. If all art was done "to style", art would be pretty fuicking boring.

 Where is creativity in making something that meets some preconceived notion of what it should be?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2016, 03:57:55 pm
curious...has anyone had Beltway Brewing's Berliner Weisse?

also this wing place is somewhat serious about good beer!

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12963485_10154029792632988_5456569901043251221_n.jpg?oh=85a45f2d3144e7977e50d71ebc64db51&oe=57BF6166)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 12, 2016, 04:04:09 pm
that thing when a Washington Post reporter quotes Space's BA posts on his twitter account!! LOLZ.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 04:13:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 12, 2016, 04:04:09 pm
that thing when a Washington Post reporter quotes Space's BA posts on his twitter account!! LOLZ.

No idea what you're talking about, but before ggw comes to life and calls me out on it, i will confess i stole this line from someone else:

Quick! Name a brewery who has been "doing it for years" that doesn't have a shit ton of medals. This is the most every kid wins a medal industry in America.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 12, 2016, 04:24:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 04:13:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 12, 2016, 04:04:09 pm
that thing when a Washington Post reporter quotes Space's BA posts on his twitter account!! LOLZ.

No idea what you're talking about, but before ggw comes to life and calls me out on it, i will confess i stole this line from someone else:

Quick! Name a brewery who has been "doing it for years" that doesn't have a shit ton of medals. This is the most every kid wins a medal industry in America.

Unfortunately it's too painful now to post back and forth on here (once again, Julian wins, but if you respond I'll likely respond back tomorrow), but Fritz Hahn was posting some quotes from the BA forum today on twitter and they sounded very space like... sure enough, pull up the thread on BA and there is old space being quoted!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2016, 05:07:45 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 12, 2016, 02:34:26 pm

and yeah...can't think of a 'to die for' DB brew.  But I've only had a few
ok...this one I'm interested in trying ...
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/4738c780c8fb88a925f96190b16816aa/tumblr_o3b0a8t0gN1v3wn17o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 05:12:38 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 12, 2016, 05:07:45 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on April 12, 2016, 02:34:26 pm

and yeah...can't think of a 'to die for' DB brew.  But I've only had a few
ok...this one I'm interested in trying ...
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/4738c780c8fb88a925f96190b16816aa/tumblr_o3b0a8t0gN1v3wn17o1_1280.jpg)

I still have one left, i can bring it to the Forum bottle share you're hosting.

Most of the beers in that Adventure pack were good to very good. That was one of the best. Actually, I thought the imperial brown ale they made with Surly was excellent and best of the box. But I'll give Surly the credit for that.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 13, 2016, 10:17:27 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 03:55:11 pm
Oh puh-leeze. Their IPA isn't even in the top 100 among IPA's I've tried.

congrats, you're someone who doesn't like their style of IPA.  you like "modern", west-coast style IPAs - which DB doesn't make.  saying that it's not in your top 100 is meaningless to anyone except you.

Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 03:55:11 pm
Quick! Name a brewery who has been "doing it for years" that doesn't have a shit ton of medals. This is the most every kid wins a medal industry in America.

i'm only talking GABF medals, which actually count for something (true blind evaluation, by industry peers, etc).  they've only been in operation since 2008 and they've won a disproportionate number of GABF medals since they opened. 

Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 03:55:11 pm
What's so special about "brewing to style"?

it's one of many approaches to brewing.  clearly it doesn't impress you (again, congrats!).  those styles developed for a reason - they taste good, reflected a consensus on taste, etc.  the precision and control of process is impressive, for some (again, clearly not you). 

all this noise reminds me of someone who doesn't like modern art, goes to a modern art showing, and then complains that the art was terrible and he/she can't understand why anyone would go there.  how insightful.  says nothing about the art, only tells us about the complainer's opinions.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2016, 10:43:16 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 13, 2016, 10:17:27 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 03:55:11 pm
Oh puh-leeze. Their IPA isn't even in the top 100 among IPA's I've tried.

congrats, you're someone who doesn't like their style of IPA.  you like "modern", west-coast style IPAs - which DB doesn't make.  saying that it's not in your top 100 is meaningless to anyone except you.



According to Devil's Backbone, that's the style they DO make. And there's doesn't compare favorably to numerous others, imo and in the opinion of 753 raters on Beer Advocate, where it is scoring a middling 83.

COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
This pale bronze beer is medium in body with intense hop flavor and aroma. Our IPA is brewed in the style of the ?west coast? with robust hop character coming from American grown varieties of hops. IPA?s are amongst the most popular craft brewed beers as they have moderate strength and tons of flavor. This is not your Grandfathers beer! 5.9% alcohol by volume, 60 IBUs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2016, 10:46:50 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 13, 2016, 10:17:27 am

Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2016, 03:55:11 pm
What's so special about "brewing to style"?

it's one of many approaches to brewing.  clearly it doesn't impress you (again, congrats!).  those styles developed for a reason - they taste good, reflected a consensus on taste, etc.  the precision and control of process is impressive, for some (again, clearly not you). 

all this noise reminds me of someone who doesn't like modern art, goes to a modern art showing, and then complains that the art was terrible and he/she can't understand why anyone would go there.  how insightful.  says nothing about the art, only tells us about the complainer's opinions.

And all the noise to me about "brewing to style" reminds me of someone who thinks art is and always should be in the style of Da Vinchi, or Van Gogh, or whoever. If artists were concerned with creating "to style" we would have never gotten to modern art.

Not that there's not a point to brewing "to style", or creating art "to style". But when that becomes the basis for winning contests, that seems lame. And in turn if winning contests is proof of brewery quality, that's lame. When all it really is is proor of conformity and being good at playing it safe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 13, 2016, 11:10:49 am
Quote from: Unsanity on April 03, 2016, 01:22:56 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 01, 2016, 08:06:34 pm
also, I tried a sort of sour beer, as it is called, from boulevard, tell tale tart.  I liked it and now have this sort of passion to get into sour beers, having never really tried sour beer or know much about them.  basically, where should I go to next for an excellent sour in bottle from a beer store, that sells good beer and rips you off on the price, just like any small business owner, will.  thank you.

try Duchesse De Bourgogne (if you can get it where you are) and don't look back.

I can find it where I live, so I bought one, and now I am, in love.  in . . . love.  the most unique beer I have ever tasted, but a nose to knock you over.  damn, I posted again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 13, 2016, 11:40:20 am
the victory cherry gose has hit the shelves
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2016, 11:43:54 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 13, 2016, 11:10:49 am
Quote from: Unsanity on April 03, 2016, 01:22:56 am


try Duchesse De Bourgogne (if you can get it where you are) and don't look back.

I can find it where I live, so I bought one, and now I am, in love.  in . . . love.  the most unique beer I have ever tasted, but a nose to knock you over.  damn, I posted again.
so DDB is on tap upstairs at 9:30 no less
I really like it too one of my favorite sours that is  available
 (although some here have complained that their tap lines are dank...so you should get bottles)

this one is also well worth checking out (but harder to find)
(http://www.cultureglaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/lindemans-cuvee-rene-l.gif)
I know it's burtal but I keep posting
I just click...go do something else...comeback to see if the page has rendered...then post
sucks when I see I made a mistake...takes 10 mins to actually edit my error (and I make them a lot)

also saw that DCbrau announced some of the colabs (http://www.dcbeer.com/news/taste-dc-braus-5th-anniversary-collabs-through-these-words?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook)...looks good to me

(http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Wise_Lovely.jpg)

so tix to that DCbrau fest are $45...is that just to get in and hear the bands?
does that include beer??

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on April 14, 2016, 05:06:30 am
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 13, 2016, 11:43:54 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 13, 2016, 11:10:49 am
Quote from: Unsanity on April 03, 2016, 01:22:56 am


try Duchesse De Bourgogne (if you can get it where you are) and don't look back.

I can find it where I live, so I bought one, and now I am, in love.  in . . . love.  the most unique beer I have ever tasted, but a nose to knock you over.  damn, I posted again.
so DDB is on tap upstairs at 9:30 no less
I really like it too one of my favorite sours that is  available
 (although some here have complained that their tap lines are dank...so you should get bottles)

this one is also well worth checking out (but harder to find)
(http://www.cultureglaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/lindemans-cuvee-rene-l.gif)
I know it's burtal but I keep posting
I just click...go do something else...comeback to see if the page has rendered...then post
sucks when I see I made a mistake...takes 10 mins to actually edit my error (and I make them a lot)

also saw that DCbrau announced some of the colabs (http://www.dcbeer.com/news/taste-dc-braus-5th-anniversary-collabs-through-these-words?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook)...looks good to me

(http://www.dcbeer.com/sites/default/files/Wise_Lovely.jpg)

so tix to that DCbrau fest are $45...is that just to get in and hear the bands?
does that include beer??



I knew you would enjoy the Duchesse. It does have a funk to it but I dig the smell. Tastes like nothing else . its back on tap at 9:30? nice. It was gone for some time. Its real damn expensive there when they have it. That lambic is awesome too.

The tickets for the DC Brau thing do not cover beer unfortunately. All I know is last time The Sword played DC it was $30 just for them w/ Royal Thunder opening. $45 for all of those bands is still a tad expensive but Kvelertak is all the way from Norway. Free beer comes with the V.I.P. ticket though. Also you can get into a free pre-event show at DC9 with the DC Brau ticket. Black Dog Prowl and Wild Throne are at that. I think there are free shuttle busses running from the Rhode Island Metro stop all day to the brewery too.
You can volunteer and get into the event for free last I checked.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on April 14, 2016, 05:08:57 am
http://tenemu.com/news/new-belgiums-clutch-returning-this-year/03/2016

They tweaked it a bit...But it still looks great and might even be better than last time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 14, 2016, 08:45:38 am
Quote from: Bagley on April 13, 2016, 11:40:20 am
the victory cherry gose has hit the shelves


I love this beer... picked up a half of a case yesterday (the space instincts in me do find this a little over priced, but I don't care) and stumbled upon a bottle of KBS as well.



Quote from: medeski7 on April 12, 2016, 10:11:31 am
I was able to get a few bottles of KBS.  Most places were limiting customers to one or two bottles.  I ended up drinking a 2015 KBS I had cellared for the year, but haven't cracked one from this year yet.  Anyone tried it?  What do you think?  This was my first time trying it.  I thought it was very good, but overall, I think I prefer BCBS. 

At this point, it's more of a early spring tradition to try and snag bottles. Is it a good beer, sure... Is it the whale it was a few years ago, no... Does it hold up to numerous other offerings out there today, no... Is BCBS better, yes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2016, 09:15:13 am
Quote from: Yada on April 14, 2016, 08:45:38 am
Quote from: Bagley on April 13, 2016, 11:40:20 am
the victory cherry gose has hit the shelves


I love this beer... picked up a half of a case yesterday (the space instincts in me do find this a little over priced, but I don't care) and stumbled upon a bottle of KBS as well.



Quote from: medeski7 on April 12, 2016, 10:11:31 am
I was able to get a few bottles of KBS.  Most places were limiting customers to one or two bottles.  I ended up drinking a 2015 KBS I had cellared for the year, but haven't cracked one from this year yet.  Anyone tried it?  What do you think?  This was my first time trying it.  I thought it was very good, but overall, I think I prefer BCBS. 

At this point, it's more of a early spring tradition to try and snag bottles. Is it a good beer, sure... Is it the whale it was a few years ago, no... Does it hold up to numerous other offerings out there today, no... Is BCBS better, yes.

Plus, one bottle of KBS is $6-8 bucks whereas one bottle of BCBS is $9-$12. Yes, you get five ounces more of BCBS in a bottle, but when you're drinking beer that high in abv, do you really need more than 12 ounces? And isn't KBS' coroporate ties arguably less evil than those of BCBS (stevewizzle, what do you think?)

I picked up two four packs of the Kirsch Gose. Planning on drinking one side by side with an Ommegang Rosetta. When I get around to it. Such a backlog of beer to drink. Anyway, I know, slightly different styles, but will be interesting to compare the cherry flavors.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2016, 09:22:37 am
Quote from: Unsanity on April 14, 2016, 05:08:57 am
http://tenemu.com/news/new-belgiums-clutch-returning-this-year/03/2016

They tweaked it a bit...But it still looks great and might even be better than last time.
does sound interesting...
Clutch is asour stout weighing in at 8.5 percent ABV. To create the beer, Dark chocolate, coffee, and black malts are hopped with Nugget hops, to bitter at 19 IBUs.
(Looks like Sidehatch works as a part time editor there)
But I don't recall seeing a sour stout (at least I'd never noticed)
I like sours and I like stouts...

Although I did come across this brewery when looking into it

Ass Clown Brewing (http://www.assclownbeer.com)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2016, 09:36:48 am
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 14, 2016, 09:22:37 am
Quote from: Unsanity on April 14, 2016, 05:08:57 am
http://tenemu.com/news/new-belgiums-clutch-returning-this-year/03/2016

They tweaked it a bit...But it still looks great and might even be better than last time.
does sound interesting...
Clutch is asour stout weighing in at 8.5 percent ABV. To create the beer, Dark chocolate, coffee, and black malts are hopped with Nugget hops, to bitter at 19 IBUs.
(Looks like Sidehatch works as a part time editor there)
But I don't recall seeing a sour stout (at least I'd never noticed)
I like sours and I like stouts...

Although I did come across this brewery when looking into it

Ass Clown Brewing (http://www.assclownbeer.com)


I've had a couple of sour stouts (Bruery, Allagash), just don't think they're my thing. At least not this point in time.

The Clutch beer gets pretty mediocre ratings (49th percentile for wild ales).

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/new-belgium-lips-of-faith--clutch/145676/
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/71774/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 14, 2016, 10:09:47 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 14, 2016, 09:15:13 am
Quote from: Yada on April 14, 2016, 08:45:38 am
Quote from: Bagley on April 13, 2016, 11:40:20 am
the victory cherry gose has hit the shelves


I love this beer... picked up a half of a case yesterday (the space instincts in me do find this a little over priced, but I don't care) and stumbled upon a bottle of KBS as well.



Quote from: medeski7 on April 12, 2016, 10:11:31 am
I was able to get a few bottles of KBS.  Most places were limiting customers to one or two bottles.  I ended up drinking a 2015 KBS I had cellared for the year, but haven't cracked one from this year yet.  Anyone tried it?  What do you think?  This was my first time trying it.  I thought it was very good, but overall, I think I prefer BCBS. 

At this point, it's more of a early spring tradition to try and snag bottles. Is it a good beer, sure... Is it the whale it was a few years ago, no... Does it hold up to numerous other offerings out there today, no... Is BCBS better, yes.

Plus, one bottle of KBS is $6-8 bucks whereas one bottle of BCBS is $9-$12. Yes, you get five ounces more of BCBS in a bottle, but when you're drinking beer that high in abv, do you really need more than 12 ounces? And isn't KBS' coroporate ties arguably less evil than those of BCBS (stevewizzle, what do you think?)

I picked up two four packs of the Kirsch Gose. Planning on drinking one side by side with an Ommegang Rosetta. When I get around to it. Such a backlog of beer to drink. Anyway, I know, slightly different styles, but will be interesting to compare the cherry flavors.

I don't think anyone gives a shit about per ounce costs other than you, Space.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2016, 10:20:10 am
Quote from: Yada on April 14, 2016, 10:09:47 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 14, 2016, 09:15:13 am
Quote from: Yada on April 14, 2016, 08:45:38 am
Quote from: Bagley on April 13, 2016, 11:40:20 am
the victory cherry gose has hit the shelves


I love this beer... picked up a half of a case yesterday (the space instincts in me do find this a little over priced, but I don't care) and stumbled upon a bottle of KBS as well.



Quote from: medeski7 on April 12, 2016, 10:11:31 am
I was able to get a few bottles of KBS.  Most places were limiting customers to one or two bottles.  I ended up drinking a 2015 KBS I had cellared for the year, but haven't cracked one from this year yet.  Anyone tried it?  What do you think?  This was my first time trying it.  I thought it was very good, but overall, I think I prefer BCBS. 

At this point, it's more of a early spring tradition to try and snag bottles. Is it a good beer, sure... Is it the whale it was a few years ago, no... Does it hold up to numerous other offerings out there today, no... Is BCBS better, yes.

Plus, one bottle of KBS is $6-8 bucks whereas one bottle of BCBS is $9-$12. Yes, you get five ounces more of BCBS in a bottle, but when you're drinking beer that high in abv, do you really need more than 12 ounces? And isn't KBS' coroporate ties arguably less evil than those of BCBS (stevewizzle, what do you think?)

I picked up two four packs of the Kirsch Gose. Planning on drinking one side by side with an Ommegang Rosetta. When I get around to it. Such a backlog of beer to drink. Anyway, I know, slightly different styles, but will be interesting to compare the cherry flavors.

I don't think anyone gives a shit about per ounce costs other than you, Space.

Step out of the DC bubble and read some of the Beer Advocate forums and you'll constantly find people bitching about beer prices and breaking it down by the cost per ounce.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/why-does-the-ounce-of-bombers-cost-more-than-12-ounce-singles.19831/

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-value-of-fractional-pours.398744/

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/growler-prices-what-is-a-good-value.241768/page-3#post-4665138

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/bourbon-county-in-ma-2015.354679/page-12#post-4577308

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/would-you-rather-craft-beer-edition.384478/page-3#post-4499252

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/bells-distributing-to-texas.405685/#post-4685089

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/other-half-brewing-thread-march-2016.391390/page-20#post-4649921



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 14, 2016, 10:24:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 14, 2016, 10:20:10 am
Quote from: Yada on April 14, 2016, 10:09:47 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 14, 2016, 09:15:13 am
Quote from: Yada on April 14, 2016, 08:45:38 am
Quote from: Bagley on April 13, 2016, 11:40:20 am
the victory cherry gose has hit the shelves


I love this beer... picked up a half of a case yesterday (the space instincts in me do find this a little over priced, but I don't care) and stumbled upon a bottle of KBS as well.



Quote from: medeski7 on April 12, 2016, 10:11:31 am
I was able to get a few bottles of KBS.  Most places were limiting customers to one or two bottles.  I ended up drinking a 2015 KBS I had cellared for the year, but haven't cracked one from this year yet.  Anyone tried it?  What do you think?  This was my first time trying it.  I thought it was very good, but overall, I think I prefer BCBS. 

At this point, it's more of a early spring tradition to try and snag bottles. Is it a good beer, sure... Is it the whale it was a few years ago, no... Does it hold up to numerous other offerings out there today, no... Is BCBS better, yes.

Plus, one bottle of KBS is $6-8 bucks whereas one bottle of BCBS is $9-$12. Yes, you get five ounces more of BCBS in a bottle, but when you're drinking beer that high in abv, do you really need more than 12 ounces? And isn't KBS' coroporate ties arguably less evil than those of BCBS (stevewizzle, what do you think?)

I picked up two four packs of the Kirsch Gose. Planning on drinking one side by side with an Ommegang Rosetta. When I get around to it. Such a backlog of beer to drink. Anyway, I know, slightly different styles, but will be interesting to compare the cherry flavors.

I don't think anyone gives a shit about per ounce costs other than you, Space.

Step out of the DC bubble and read some of the Beer Advocate forums and you'll constantly find people bitching about beer prices and breaking it down by the cost per ounce.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/why-does-the-ounce-of-bombers-cost-more-than-12-ounce-singles.19831/

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-value-of-fractional-pours.398744/

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/growler-prices-what-is-a-good-value.241768/page-3#post-4665138

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/bourbon-county-in-ma-2015.354679/page-12#post-4577308

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/would-you-rather-craft-beer-edition.384478/page-3#post-4499252

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/bells-distributing-to-texas.405685/#post-4685089

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/other-half-brewing-thread-march-2016.391390/page-20#post-4649921





I only read beer advocate forums when you're quoted by WaPo reporters!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on April 15, 2016, 03:08:57 am
Sour stouts are pretty rare. The Bruery's Tart of Darkness is maybe the most famous one. I love it. 3 Brothers had one that was really great as well. Mad Fox's Crazy Ivan was also soured and was quite tasty. They even bottled it. I never had the Allagash one though.

Who cares if Clutch was rated poorly by snobs. It was still a very unique and tasty beer. This new one will not be the same beer as last time anyway.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 08:13:17 am
Quote from: Unsanity on April 15, 2016, 03:08:57 am
Sour stouts are pretty rare. The Bruery's Tart of Darkness is maybe the most famous one. I love it. 3 Brothers had one that was really great as well. Mad Fox's Crazy Ivan was also soured and was quite tasty. They even bottled it. I never had the Allagash one though.

Who cares if Clutch was rated poorly by snobs. It was still a very unique and tasty beer. This new one will not be the same beer as last time anyway.

Dude, if you've had tried that many sour stouts, there's no doubt you're a beer snob yourself.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 15, 2016, 10:20:00 am
every time, I read a beer advocate or other snob review of a beer I want to try . . . I get lost to the simple sentence that repeats in my brain, of if I wonder does it tastes good.  that's the only thing that matters to me.  Yes, I can find out the type of beer it is, and other minor things, but I never need the ramblings on that go in too deep, from those things.  I think beer snobs, have taken wine snobs to task, with their infinite descriptions of characters. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 10:31:53 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 15, 2016, 10:20:00 am
every time, I read a beer advocate or other snob review of a beer I want to try . . . I get lost to the simple sentence that repeats in my brain, of if I wonder does it tastes good.  that's the only thing that matters to me.  Yes, I can find out the type of beer it is, and other minor things, but I never need the ramblings on that go in too deep, from those things.  I think beer snobs, have taken wine snobs to task, with their infinite descriptions of characters. 

I agree with you. But if 5000 people rate a beer and it has a Beer Advocate score of 94, and 5000 people rate a different beer in the same style category and it has a Beer Advocate score of 74, I'm 99% confident I will like the higher scoring beer better in a blind taste test. That's not snobbery, that's mathematics.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 15, 2016, 10:33:38 am
math, is snobbery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 15, 2016, 10:41:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 10:31:53 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 15, 2016, 10:20:00 am
every time, I read a beer advocate or other snob review of a beer I want to try . . . I get lost to the simple sentence that repeats in my brain, of if I wonder does it tastes good.  that's the only thing that matters to me.  Yes, I can find out the type of beer it is, and other minor things, but I never need the ramblings on that go in too deep, from those things.  I think beer snobs, have taken wine snobs to task, with their infinite descriptions of characters. 

I agree with you. But if 5000 people rate a beer and it has a Beer Advocate score of 94, and 5000 people rate a different beer in the same style category and it has a Beer Advocate score of 74, I'm 99% confident I will like the higher scoring beer better in a blind taste test. That's not snobbery, that's mathematics.

what if that score of 94 is $1.73 more an ounce vs the 74 score... Which one does Space buy?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 10:48:50 am
Quote from: Yada on April 15, 2016, 10:41:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 10:31:53 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 15, 2016, 10:20:00 am
every time, I read a beer advocate or other snob review of a beer I want to try . . . I get lost to the simple sentence that repeats in my brain, of if I wonder does it tastes good.  that's the only thing that matters to me.  Yes, I can find out the type of beer it is, and other minor things, but I never need the ramblings on that go in too deep, from those things.  I think beer snobs, have taken wine snobs to task, with their infinite descriptions of characters. 

I agree with you. But if 5000 people rate a beer and it has a Beer Advocate score of 94, and 5000 people rate a different beer in the same style category and it has a Beer Advocate score of 74, I'm 99% confident I will like the higher scoring beer better in a blind taste test. That's not snobbery, that's mathematics.

what if that score of 94 is $1.73 more an ounce vs the 74 score... Which one does Space buy?

I think if you took a trip to my basement, you'd be able to figure that one out. I don't think i've bought a 74 beer in a long, long time.

Though what canned/bottled beer costs $1.73+ an ounce?

How abouts you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 15, 2016, 10:55:06 am
That's a $44 bomber.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 15, 2016, 10:58:47 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 10:48:50 am
Quote from: Yada on April 15, 2016, 10:41:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 10:31:53 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 15, 2016, 10:20:00 am
every time, I read a beer advocate or other snob review of a beer I want to try . . . I get lost to the simple sentence that repeats in my brain, of if I wonder does it tastes good.  that's the only thing that matters to me.  Yes, I can find out the type of beer it is, and other minor things, but I never need the ramblings on that go in too deep, from those things.  I think beer snobs, have taken wine snobs to task, with their infinite descriptions of characters. 

I agree with you. But if 5000 people rate a beer and it has a Beer Advocate score of 94, and 5000 people rate a different beer in the same style category and it has a Beer Advocate score of 74, I'm 99% confident I will like the higher scoring beer better in a blind taste test. That's not snobbery, that's mathematics.

what if that score of 94 is $1.73 more an ounce vs the 74 score... Which one does Space buy?

I think if you took a trip to my basement, you'd be able to figure that one out. I don't think i've bought a 74 beer in a long, long time.

Though what canned/bottled beer costs $1.73+ an ounce?

How abouts you?

Yeah... bad example... let's just say then 94 is $18 a bomber and 74 is $10 a bomber. What does space buy?

I go for the $18.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 11:02:31 am
Quote from: Yada on April 15, 2016, 10:58:47 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 10:48:50 am
Quote from: Yada on April 15, 2016, 10:41:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 15, 2016, 10:31:53 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 15, 2016, 10:20:00 am
every time, I read a beer advocate or other snob review of a beer I want to try . . . I get lost to the simple sentence that repeats in my brain, of if I wonder does it tastes good.  that's the only thing that matters to me.  Yes, I can find out the type of beer it is, and other minor things, but I never need the ramblings on that go in too deep, from those things.  I think beer snobs, have taken wine snobs to task, with their infinite descriptions of characters. 

I agree with you. But if 5000 people rate a beer and it has a Beer Advocate score of 94, and 5000 people rate a different beer in the same style category and it has a Beer Advocate score of 74, I'm 99% confident I will like the higher scoring beer better in a blind taste test. That's not snobbery, that's mathematics.

what if that score of 94 is $1.73 more an ounce vs the 74 score... Which one does Space buy?

I think if you took a trip to my basement, you'd be able to figure that one out. I don't think i've bought a 74 beer in a long, long time.

Though what canned/bottled beer costs $1.73+ an ounce?

How abouts you?

Yeah... bad example... let's just say then 94 is $18 a bomber and 74 is $10 a bomber. What does space buy?

I go for the $18.

If it were a bomber of a sour or a barrel aged beer, I'd get the $18 94 score. Any other style of beer, I'd probably skip, as I could likely find a 94 beer for way cheaper than $18/bomber.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2016, 03:35:38 pm
speaking of $PerOz
spotted in DC today
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/y3KlA-kxKrXJw12Zd9e-ZqOLTDBhhkSLKr0EaPvw4hZ7TOSdtI9QcZnu2zLCfnOoh1kmiDhYMA-4cCA-rDtn7pBk8BEOEpDb-2SZY2teL75EVPqjzaEB55x004swrTJDgFZBapb2lSAeA8UaJmGzdkz5et441KuzKU37W6sLrOv6y0V84iM0QWTeq_6Mxl9xJXaNUouiZNnIiTAvS4_4teK6vwtVzTWD0UMmQQXo4uRRdEh_EK58rRsRZfEvDaiymrqdeWmdrhbgP3n-kFAudMp21KGSwYS2QfpqexzJ8U3ktJWaK2-H9kjiYchV3svFYxxgPA0Xd_8KfVjNHdFqQVVIDTrPESICPTH_xHK8A3WC_u9neIWeYg4It8t-spA31pprBflLp2IugXqbcLf5bKsOu6DGhtVrWwzy1AqidzZUlxSMNmAI6Q49wiwOa9JTrpQ2V0J4gY0jF9KUcC6MwHgrrnM4ZqjZVJ1eTWNFxY8qwSydX5RozkhVNdz75dw9wgWYX0ZK_EWrfIfyGJkBdcWy-kuiilz_laWynO_xVcCDTksTO7_AfybWXIdxQzFuU4ExeA=w1172-h659-no)
that's $29 for the Goose
the Velvet Merkin I think was $39
I can't remember what that no label one was for $49 (it had something on the cap)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 15, 2016, 03:49:46 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 15, 2016, 03:35:38 pm
speaking of $PerOz
spotted in DC today
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/y3KlA-kxKrXJw12Zd9e-ZqOLTDBhhkSLKr0EaPvw4hZ7TOSdtI9QcZnu2zLCfnOoh1kmiDhYMA-4cCA-rDtn7pBk8BEOEpDb-2SZY2teL75EVPqjzaEB55x004swrTJDgFZBapb2lSAeA8UaJmGzdkz5et441KuzKU37W6sLrOv6y0V84iM0QWTeq_6Mxl9xJXaNUouiZNnIiTAvS4_4teK6vwtVzTWD0UMmQQXo4uRRdEh_EK58rRsRZfEvDaiymrqdeWmdrhbgP3n-kFAudMp21KGSwYS2QfpqexzJ8U3ktJWaK2-H9kjiYchV3svFYxxgPA0Xd_8KfVjNHdFqQVVIDTrPESICPTH_xHK8A3WC_u9neIWeYg4It8t-spA31pprBflLp2IugXqbcLf5bKsOu6DGhtVrWwzy1AqidzZUlxSMNmAI6Q49wiwOa9JTrpQ2V0J4gY0jF9KUcC6MwHgrrnM4ZqjZVJ1eTWNFxY8qwSydX5RozkhVNdz75dw9wgWYX0ZK_EWrfIfyGJkBdcWy-kuiilz_laWynO_xVcCDTksTO7_AfybWXIdxQzFuU4ExeA=w1172-h659-no)
that's $29 for the Goose
the Velvet Merkin I think was $39
I can't remember what that no label one was for $49 (it had something on the cap)


LOL, let me guess... that highway robbery store on P Street?? Space and I both just shat our shants.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2016, 03:50:40 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 15, 2016, 03:35:38 pm
speaking of $PerOz
spotted in DC today
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/y3KlA-kxKrXJw12Zd9e-ZqOLTDBhhkSLKr0EaPvw4hZ7TOSdtI9QcZnu2zLCfnOoh1kmiDhYMA-4cCA-rDtn7pBk8BEOEpDb-2SZY2teL75EVPqjzaEB55x004swrTJDgFZBapb2lSAeA8UaJmGzdkz5et441KuzKU37W6sLrOv6y0V84iM0QWTeq_6Mxl9xJXaNUouiZNnIiTAvS4_4teK6vwtVzTWD0UMmQQXo4uRRdEh_EK58rRsRZfEvDaiymrqdeWmdrhbgP3n-kFAudMp21KGSwYS2QfpqexzJ8U3ktJWaK2-H9kjiYchV3svFYxxgPA0Xd_8KfVjNHdFqQVVIDTrPESICPTH_xHK8A3WC_u9neIWeYg4It8t-spA31pprBflLp2IugXqbcLf5bKsOu6DGhtVrWwzy1AqidzZUlxSMNmAI6Q49wiwOa9JTrpQ2V0J4gY0jF9KUcC6MwHgrrnM4ZqjZVJ1eTWNFxY8qwSydX5RozkhVNdz75dw9wgWYX0ZK_EWrfIfyGJkBdcWy-kuiilz_laWynO_xVcCDTksTO7_AfybWXIdxQzFuU4ExeA=w1172-h659-no)
that's $29 for the Goose
the Velvet Merkin I think was $39
I can't remember what that no label one was for $49 (it had something on the cap)

lemme guess: 1 West Dupont Circle Wines & Liquors?  that place, and others of its ilk, should be fire-bombed.  horrible, horrible businesses.

that no-label with something on the cap is Westvleteren XXII, AKA Westie 12.  an amazing quad, arguably the best, but not worth 5x more than other top-line belgians.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2016, 03:52:52 pm
was on L at 19th
can't remember the name..but lots of liquor bottles in front

they had one hopslam can too
but it was 12 oz...thought they were 16oz
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 15, 2016, 03:58:43 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 15, 2016, 03:35:38 pm
speaking of $PerOz
spotted in DC today
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/y3KlA-kxKrXJw12Zd9e-ZqOLTDBhhkSLKr0EaPvw4hZ7TOSdtI9QcZnu2zLCfnOoh1kmiDhYMA-4cCA-rDtn7pBk8BEOEpDb-2SZY2teL75EVPqjzaEB55x004swrTJDgFZBapb2lSAeA8UaJmGzdkz5et441KuzKU37W6sLrOv6y0V84iM0QWTeq_6Mxl9xJXaNUouiZNnIiTAvS4_4teK6vwtVzTWD0UMmQQXo4uRRdEh_EK58rRsRZfEvDaiymrqdeWmdrhbgP3n-kFAudMp21KGSwYS2QfpqexzJ8U3ktJWaK2-H9kjiYchV3svFYxxgPA0Xd_8KfVjNHdFqQVVIDTrPESICPTH_xHK8A3WC_u9neIWeYg4It8t-spA31pprBflLp2IugXqbcLf5bKsOu6DGhtVrWwzy1AqidzZUlxSMNmAI6Q49wiwOa9JTrpQ2V0J4gY0jF9KUcC6MwHgrrnM4ZqjZVJ1eTWNFxY8qwSydX5RozkhVNdz75dw9wgWYX0ZK_EWrfIfyGJkBdcWy-kuiilz_laWynO_xVcCDTksTO7_AfybWXIdxQzFuU4ExeA=w1172-h659-no)
that's $29 for the Goose
the Velvet Merkin I think was $39
I can't remember what that no label one was for $49 (it had something on the cap)

I can't even fathom what my reaction would be if one of those BCBS bottles was infected. Then again, you deserve it for buying it at such an astronomical price to begin with.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 15, 2016, 04:24:08 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 15, 2016, 03:52:52 pm
was on L at 19th
can't remember the name..but lots of liquor bottles in front

they had one hopslam can too
but it was 12 oz...thought they were 16oz

a wise space once said, you're paying extra money for having them age it for you! and hopslam comes in 12oz.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2016, 05:24:24 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 15, 2016, 03:52:52 pm
was on L at 19th

barmywines.com?  i believe they are the same people who run 1 West Dupont Circle...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2016, 02:32:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 15, 2016, 05:24:24 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 15, 2016, 03:52:52 pm
was on L at 19th

barmywines.com?  i believe they are the same people who run 1 West Dupont Circle...
rhymes with swarmy


I do think it's great that Aslin tells you what's coming up
I thought the Stellar Parralax was great
the locals told me to get there when Mind the Hop taps...
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/7672_1719995544956783_2698155422012279214_n.jpg?oh=e1c221230f038592011d452cad46d5c6&oe=57787344)
"it's ready when it's ready"

Such a small operation there. just a bunch of 3 BBL fermenters (7)
they have to limit what people purchase (?!)

Jez New District has a 100 BBL capacity...and no one is talking about or liking their beers

I got to imagine they have to be thinking they should be doing a much bigger production



--edit that photo was from 3/30...so not sure what's coming up
They did dunley place this weekend
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2016, 02:37:17 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 18, 2016, 02:32:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 15, 2016, 05:24:24 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 15, 2016, 03:52:52 pm
was on L at 19th

barmywines.com?  i believe they are the same people who run 1 West Dupont Circle...
rhymes with swarmy


I do think it's great that Aslin tells you what's coming up
I thought the Stellar Parralax was great
the locals told me to get there when Mind the Hop taps...
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/7672_1719995544956783_2698155422012279214_n.jpg?oh=e1c221230f038592011d452cad46d5c6&oe=57787344)
"it's ready when it's ready"

Such a small operation there. just a bunch of 3 BBL fermenters (7)
they have to limit what people purchase (?!)

Jez New District has a 100 BBL capacity...and no one is talking about or liking their beers

I got to imagine they have to be thinking they should be doing a much bigger production


I drank a less than 48 hour poured crowler of Aslin brew recently and it tasted pretty crappy... First strike against Aslin!

In other news, drank plenty of Hops Hands by Tired Hands this weekend and that was quite delicious. Also, tried George (a hill farmstead brew I'd never heard of), it was just ok.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 18, 2016, 02:39:16 pm
Every ipa I've had from Aslin ranked (not that my one opinion really matters that much, and the've all been very good or better):

1. Orange Starfish
2. Bringing Sexy Back
3. Mind the Hops
4. Master of Karate
5. Small Town in Ontario
6. Neutrino (only had first undercarbonated batch)

Have only had them on draft at brewery, or out of growler the next day.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2016, 02:41:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 18, 2016, 02:37:17 pm
I drank a less than 48 hour poured crowler of Aslin brew recently and it tasted pretty crappy... First strike against Aslin!

In other news, drank plenty of Hops Hands by Tired Hands this weekend and that was quite delicious. Also, tried George (a hill farmstead brew I'd never heard of), it was just ok.
curious...which one?

also, I know you base all your drinking decisions based on what the Bro's say
but you must have forgot to read their Hop Hands review:

2.74/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 1 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.75

Not feeling it with this brew, extremely cloudy and a mess to say the least. Staff at the pub should not be pouring it. Milkshake beers are not a trend or acceptable with traditional or even modern styles... No excuses. Carbonation seemed off, a muddled mess.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 18, 2016, 02:43:33 pm
Had one each of these at P Street Whole Foods over the weekend, both were excellent

Clown Shoes Luchador En Fuego

COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
Our third anniversary beer up-sizes Chocolate Sombrero, using extra ancho chile and adding chipotle pepper. We aged the brew 100% in Wild Turkey and Heaven Hill bourbon barrels. May it leap onto your palate majestically, like a luchador who flies into the ring from atop the highest rope.


RAR Habanero Nectar IPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 18, 2016, 02:45:09 pm
Have a 32 oz growler of this to work on next weekend. Sampled and it was excellent.

Lickinghole Creek Supreme Leader

COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
(Bourbon Barrel Version of Heir Apparent) 13.5% ABV, 60 IBU Bourbon Barrel Imperial Stout spiced with cocoa, vanilla, cinnamon, cayenne, New Mexican Ancho Chile and serrano peppers. The Supreme Leader Serves the People!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2016, 02:50:17 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 18, 2016, 02:41:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 18, 2016, 02:37:17 pm
I drank a less than 48 hour poured crowler of Aslin brew recently and it tasted pretty crappy... First strike against Aslin!

In other news, drank plenty of Hops Hands by Tired Hands this weekend and that was quite delicious. Also, tried George (a hill farmstead brew I'd never heard of), it was just ok.
curious...which one?

also, I know you base all your drinking decisions based on what the Bro's say
but you must have forgot to read their Hop Hands review:

2.74/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 1 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.75

Not feeling it with this brew, extremely cloudy and a mess to say the least. Staff at the pub should not be pouring it. Milkshake beers are not a trend or acceptable with traditional or even modern styles... No excuses. Carbonation seemed off, a muddled mess.


I think you're getting me confused with our friend space, I couldn't give a shit about BA ratings or any ratings for that matter. Like our other friend walky said, if it tastes good, I like it.

The beer that didn't hold up in the crowler was Stellar Parralax.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 18, 2016, 02:52:56 pm
Headed to Aslin Thursday afternoon, first time


Hey Yada-

How's the Kirsch Gose this year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2016, 02:53:13 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 18, 2016, 02:32:42 pm
Jez New District has a 100 BBL capacity...and no one is talking about or liking their beers

it's not the size of your fermenter, but how you use it ;D

seriously tho, there is no inherent reason why a big fermenter would produce better, or worse, beer than a smaller one.  all comes down to the brewers, their ingredients and their processes.

Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 18, 2016, 02:32:42 pm
I got to imagine they have to be thinking they should be doing a much bigger production

i would be most interested in talking to these guys, but i suspect that availability of hops is a major impediment to growth.  top-shelf hops like citra, amarillo, simcoe and mosaic are simply not available to new brewers, at least not at reasonable prices - all the big guys have locked up contracts for those, for the next several years.  small breweries can sometimes do "spot buys" for higher prices (i.e. what happens to pop up, when i pops up) but you can't plan an expansion around that.  bigger production = need steady clients (restaurant chains, grocery stores, etc) = expectation of steady inventory of beer, AKA full-time availability.  lack of a predictable hop supply undermines all that.  and making modern/popular/west coast/etc IPAs without those hops isn't easy.

on the flip side, a small brewery like Aslin can stay nimble and do one-off batches as they manage to get interesting hops.  as long as you're ok with a variable lineup, small breweries rock.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2016, 02:53:39 pm
Quote from: Bagley on April 18, 2016, 02:52:56 pm
Headed to Aslin Thursday afternoon, first time


Hey Yada-

How's the Kirsch Gose this year?

Delicious! I will most likely need to restock here pretty, pretty quickly. And if they have Dunley Place while you're out there, that's probably my favorite I've had of theirs (also, my first I tried). Master of Karate was quite amazing as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2016, 02:55:04 pm
i'm not into chili/habanero/spicy hot beers.  stone's xocovesa (sp?) is about my upper limit for spiciness.  i like spicy food, but the flavor just doesn't work in beer, for me.

clearly Space likes his beers caliente... anyone else?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2016, 03:02:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 18, 2016, 02:50:17 pm
I think you're getting me confused with our friend space, I couldn't give a shit about BA ratings or any ratings for that matter. Like our other friend walky said, if it tastes good, I like it.

The beer that didn't hold up in the crowler was Stellar Parralax.
I was joking...
but that's a bummer on the SP
tasted awesome at the bar, did you sample on there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2016, 03:06:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2016, 02:55:04 pm
i'm not into chili/habanero/spicy hot beers.  stone's xocovesa (sp?) is about my upper limit for spiciness.  i like spicy food, but the flavor just doesn't work in beer, for me.

clearly Space likes his beers caliente... anyone else?

I don't mind a lil' heat in Stouts (think Abraxas, Mexican Cake, etc.) but in IPAs I'm not too much of a fan. I had that RAR habanero as well and thought it was decent (but it was free!). I wouldn't buy it.


Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 18, 2016, 03:02:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 18, 2016, 02:50:17 pm
I think you're getting me confused with our friend space, I couldn't give a shit about BA ratings or any ratings for that matter. Like our other friend walky said, if it tastes good, I like it.

The beer that didn't hold up in the crowler was Stellar Parralax.
I was joking...
but that's a bummer on the SP
tasted awesome at the bar, did you sample on there?

I'm assuming it was a malfunction of the crowler system/can. I didn't try it at the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on April 18, 2016, 03:23:09 pm
(http://foundersbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/All-Day-IPA-6pack+bottle_web.jpg)

Any opinions on this? Picked up a 6er last week and really liked it, so I picked up another this weekend. And wouldn't you know it, I really liked it again
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2016, 03:31:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 18, 2016, 03:06:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2016, 02:55:04 pm
i'm not into chili/habanero/spicy hot beers.  stone's xocovesa (sp?) is about my upper limit for spiciness.  i like spicy food, but the flavor just doesn't work in beer, for me.

clearly Space likes his beers caliente... anyone else?

I don't mind a lil' heat in Stouts (think Abraxas, Mexican Cake, etc.) but in IPAs I'm not too much of a fan. I had that RAR habanero as well and thought it was decent (but it was free!). I wouldn't buy it.


I don't recall any stouts with heat, but that might be appealing

this was horrendous and undrinkable
(http://beerstreetjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/Flying-Dog-Naughty-Belgian-Style-Dark-Ale.jpg)
The label I got didn't even say it had habanero in it!
serious heat, but couldn't taste the beer

I did try their Mango Habanero IPA taste the other day...it was ok
but I just don't think this is very good trend
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2016, 03:32:49 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on April 18, 2016, 03:23:09 pm
(http://foundersbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/All-Day-IPA-6pack+bottle_web.jpg)

Any opinions on this? Picked up a 6er last week and really liked it, so I picked up another this weekend. And wouldn't you know it, I really liked it again
I think this beer is a quality brew and very poundable
especially the 15 pack of cans

I think walky referred to: All Day Gay
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2016, 03:42:34 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 18, 2016, 03:31:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 18, 2016, 03:06:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2016, 02:55:04 pm
i'm not into chili/habanero/spicy hot beers.  stone's xocovesa (sp?) is about my upper limit for spiciness.  i like spicy food, but the flavor just doesn't work in beer, for me.

clearly Space likes his beers caliente... anyone else?

I don't mind a lil' heat in Stouts (think Abraxas, Mexican Cake, etc.) but in IPAs I'm not too much of a fan. I had that RAR habanero as well and thought it was decent (but it was free!). I wouldn't buy it.


I don't recall any stouts with heat, but that might be appealing

this was horrendous and undrinkable
(http://beerstreetjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/Flying-Dog-Naughty-Belgian-Style-Dark-Ale.jpg)
The label I got didn't even say it had habanero in it!
serious heat, but couldn't taste the beer

I did try their Mango Habanero IPA taste the other day...it was ok
but I just don't think this is very good trend


Really? I thought that was the style that was typically/usually spicy and the IPAs are a recent trend?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2016, 03:46:56 pm
^I just don't recall having any
I think I had Lips Of Faith - Cocoa Molé and didn't love it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2016, 03:50:35 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 18, 2016, 03:32:49 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on April 18, 2016, 03:23:09 pm
(http://foundersbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/All-Day-IPA-6pack+bottle_web.jpg)

Any opinions on this? Picked up a 6er last week and really liked it, so I picked up another this weekend. And wouldn't you know it, I really liked it again
I think this beer is a quality brew and very poundable
especially the 15 pack of cans

I think walky referred to: All Day Gay

I prefer these in this format when drinking light beer.

(http://www.bonappetit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/miller-high-life-small-bottles-646.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 18, 2016, 03:59:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2016, 02:55:04 pm
i'm not into chili/habanero/spicy hot beers.  stone's xocovesa (sp?) is about my upper limit for spiciness.  i like spicy food, but the flavor just doesn't work in beer, for me.

clearly Space likes his beers caliente... anyone else?

Habanero Sculpin was terrible. All heat - why take one of the best nationally-avaiable IPAs and ruin it like that? Habanero Nectar on the other hand was much more subtle in their approach and that was actually drinkable. Just not a fan of spicy IPAs in general.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 18, 2016, 04:00:35 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on April 18, 2016, 03:23:09 pm
(http://foundersbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/All-Day-IPA-6pack+bottle_web.jpg)

Any opinions on this? Picked up a 6er last week and really liked it, so I picked up another this weekend. And wouldn't you know it, I really liked it again

Great tailgating/grilling/summer beer. It's a great value whenever the 15 packs are on-sale at Rodman's or Magruders, too (just be sure to check the dates!!!).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2016, 04:28:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 18, 2016, 03:50:35 pm
I prefer these in this format when drinking light beer.

(http://www.bonappetit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/miller-high-life-small-bottles-646.jpg)

fair enough, but i prefer a light beer with some taste, like All Day IPA from Founders.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 18, 2016, 05:04:39 pm
Parabola drops at many of the fine MD establishments.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 18, 2016, 05:27:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 18, 2016, 02:55:04 pm
i'm not into chili/habanero/spicy hot beers.  stone's xocovesa (sp?) is about my upper limit for spiciness.  i like spicy food, but the flavor just doesn't work in beer, for me.

clearly Space likes his beers caliente... anyone else?

Hmmmm...it's rare when i have beer without food, so for me it's the interplay between beer and food. I've had spicy IPA's paired with spicy food, and it didn't really work for me. This time, the spicy IPA was paired with the bland faux-meat i was eating from the Whole Foods salad bar. And it worked. Spiced up some otherwise boring food.

They spicy stout...yes, I do like them in a novelty sort of way. In the same way I like the chili pepper infused dark chocolate. But not together of course.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 18, 2016, 05:34:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 18, 2016, 05:04:39 pm
Parabola drops at many of the fine MD establishments.

While I technically like Parabola slightly more, it's 73 cents an ounce compared to 50 cents and ounce for KBS. Or $17/bottle vs $6/bottle. So obviously...

I said fuck it and got some of both because they are both pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 18, 2016, 05:58:39 pm
All day gay . . . that's, about right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2016, 08:55:46 pm
So I'd be curious to know if people could submit their favorite local (ish) brews that are somewhat available.

This whole get out of work early to get a 12 oz bottle is a bit insane for my tastes
I've got to imagine that there are some very fine speimens that are not really rare, but are worth looking out for

I know it's all about personal preference

Something I could get at Total Wine, Lost Dog, Whole Foods, Arrowine

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 18, 2016, 09:31:57 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 18, 2016, 08:55:46 pm
So I'd be curious to know if people could submit their favorite local (ish) brews that are somewhat available.

This whole get out of work early to get a 12 oz bottle is a bit insane for my tastes
I've got to imagine that there are some very fine speimens that are not really rare, but are worth looking out for

I know it's all about personal preference

Something I could get at Total Wine, Lost Dog, Whole Foods, Arrowine



This whole get out of work early to get a 12 oz bottle is a bit insane for my tastes

Isn't the whole reason for a) teleworking and b) having a wife who teleworks... to snag rare beers?

The only localish beer I seek out is Union Double Duckpin. Batch date is on the bottom of the can, and you can usually get it about a week old when a batch comes out. And at $15/six pack, it's a couple bucks cheaper than Stone Enjoy By, and the same quality level (which means great...don't listen to Yada  ;D).

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 18, 2016, 09:35:46 pm
Waldo's Special Ale should be hitting stores by 4/20. Looks like it's going to be great, fresh, and very reasonably priced.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/68269/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2016, 01:23:30 pm
At long last, Founders finally hits Maryland. Or at least the parts of it that matter to (most) people here.

http://foundersbrewing.com/latest-news/2016/announcing-maryland-distribution/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2016, 11:52:09 am
aslin's Master of Karate ‪on taps at 3!
and they are out of crowlers, so bring your growler

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 20, 2016, 11:56:27 am
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 20, 2016, 11:52:09 am
aslin's Master of Karate ‪on taps at 3!
and they are out of crowlers, so bring your growler



dat beer is da...


(http://oi39.tinypic.com/x6a353.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 20, 2016, 03:39:36 pm
went to a wedding this past weekend where 3 Stars' Peppercorn Saison was the biere-du-jour.  most of 3 Stars standard offerings don't do a whole lot for me, so i haven't bothered to taste this one beforehand, but gawdam if that isn't one tasty beer.

if anyone is a fan of Perrenial Abraxis, and is willing to travel, growlers will be available this saturday in Gaithursburg (http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=8cf245d4362d543293b1175b2&id=b98f44b568&e=56bdf56a84).

anyone try Lagunitas Waldo yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2016, 06:43:46 pm
decided to get 1 beer and grabbed this one...not fully reading the label
(http://bierkopen.be/images/detailed/0/EvilTwinMolotovCocktail.jpg)
I like the taste, but the alcohol bite is a little much
Halfway through a pint  (got the bomber) and feeling pretty buzzed with it's 13% ABV
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2016, 07:18:33 pm
Yeah, the Molotov Cocktail is a bit much. They make a Molotov Lite, which is 8% abv and better, imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 09:22:23 am
molotov cocktail, at least the last time i had it several months ago, is incredibly sweet.  perfect example of "alcohol sweetness".  i think it's ok for a half-pour, the missus could mainline the stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2016, 09:39:31 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 09:22:23 am
molotov cocktail, at least the last time i had it several months ago, is incredibly sweet.  perfect example of "alcohol sweetness".  i think it's ok for a half-pour, the missus could mainline the stuff.
one bomber is like Five 4.25 ABV beers
I did like it, but just too much bite for me and a little much for one sitting
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2016, 09:40:02 am
anyone know where's waldo?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2016, 09:42:01 am
road trip, brahz? This looks like da

(http://i.imgur.com/wqKabsj.gif)

http://copenhagenbeerfest.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 21, 2016, 10:10:06 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 09:42:01 am
road trip, brahz? This looks like da

(http://i.imgur.com/wqKabsj.gif)

http://copenhagenbeerfest.com

Damn, that sure looks pretty awesome.

The festival does too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2016, 10:25:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 21, 2016, 10:10:06 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 09:42:01 am
road trip, brahz? This looks like da

(http://i.imgur.com/wqKabsj.gif)

http://copenhagenbeerfest.com

Damn, that sure looks pretty awesome.

The festival does too.

I'd be willing to say this looks like one of the best beer fests I've sen advertised in a loooong time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2016, 10:30:27 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 10:25:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 21, 2016, 10:10:06 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 09:42:01 am
road trip, brahz? This looks like da

(http://i.imgur.com/wqKabsj.gif)

http://copenhagenbeerfest.com

Damn, that sure looks pretty awesome.

The festival does too.

I'd be willing to say this looks like one of the best beer fests I've sen advertised in a loooong time.
look even yada can't type right while looking at that gif

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 21, 2016, 10:33:51 am
I feel, from now on, yada should post gifs of people taking huge dumps , instead of saying this Festival or this beer "looks like the . . ."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2016, 10:38:11 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 21, 2016, 10:33:51 am
I feel, from now on, yada should post gifs of people taking huge dumps , instead of saying this Festival or this beer "looks like the . . ."

bring back tubgirl?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2016, 11:34:09 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 10:38:11 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 21, 2016, 10:33:51 am
I feel, from now on, yada should post gifs of people taking huge dumps , instead of saying this Festival or this beer "looks like the . . ."

bring back tubgirl?
I think he is feeling left out...got an hot pics of dudes giggling things?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2016, 11:38:50 am
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🚀 on April 21, 2016, 11:34:09 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 10:38:11 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 21, 2016, 10:33:51 am
I feel, from now on, yada should post gifs of people taking huge dumps , instead of saying this Festival or this beer "looks like the . . ."

bring back tubgirl?
I think he is feeling left out...got an hot pics of dudes giggling things?


for walky...

that DC Brau corruption is da....


(http://i.imgur.com/OtGk2.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 11:43:39 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 10:25:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 21, 2016, 10:10:06 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 09:42:01 am
road trip, brahz? This looks like da

[ img suppressed to keep sh*t on topic ]

http://copenhagenbeerfest.com

Damn, that sure looks pretty awesome.

The festival does too.

I'd be willing to say this looks like one of the best beer fests I've sen advertised in a loooong time.

great lineup of breweries, but until we know exactly what beers are being brought i'd hold off on the superlatives.  if everyone on that list brings their flagships: meh (sure, you have hill farmstead and jester king which can't go wrong, but otherwise...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2016, 11:49:00 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 11:43:39 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 10:25:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 21, 2016, 10:10:06 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 09:42:01 am
road trip, brahz? This looks like da

[ img suppressed to keep sh*t on topic ]

http://copenhagenbeerfest.com

Damn, that sure looks pretty awesome.

The festival does too.

I'd be willing to say this looks like one of the best beer fests I've sen advertised in a loooong time.

great lineup of breweries, but until we know exactly what beers are being brought i'd hold off on the superlatives.  if everyone on that list brings their flagships: meh (sure, you have hill farmstead and jester king which can't go wrong, but otherwise...)


true... true.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 21, 2016, 11:58:14 am
I would applaud, you yada, but that gif was already used in my gif thread, posted by me, during the phase when I tried to kill the thread.

and I did not feel left out; I enjoy women breasteses . . . all men do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2016, 12:06:02 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on April 21, 2016, 11:58:14 am
and I did not feel left out; I enjoy women breasteses . . . all men do.
oh happy day...keep em coming (or bouncin') yada
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2016, 12:09:42 pm
anyone check out Lake Anne Brewhouse grand opening this weekend?

http://lakeannebrewhouse.com/ (http://lakeannebrewhouse.com/)


Wow, what a weekend it was! We opened the doors at Lake Anne Brew House on Saturday morning to greet a line that continued to wrap Lake Anne Plaza for 13 hours until we finally shut the gate at 11 PM. First to go was our Lake Anne Skinny Dip Kolsch, followed closely behind by Live-Work-Play IPA. Reston Red didn't see much past 8 PM on Saturday, and by Sunday at 2 PM, Pontoon Pale Ale was also dry. We closed the doors on Sunday at 5 with just traces left in the sight glass on our Brown's Chapel Brown and our Simon's Stout. You, our adoring fans, consumed nearly 3000 pints of beer in just a day and a half; pat yourselves on the back! We are overwhelmed; we are thrilled; and we are out of beer.

Brewmaster Jason has been working around the clock, and our fermenting tanks are again full, but beer takes time. In light of this, our taproom will remain closed until Friday, April 29th at 4 PM, when we will resume our normal taproom hours. We could not have anticipated the enormous attendance on opening weekend and will be working hard to keep up with demand going forward. Thanks again for your support.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 21, 2016, 01:23:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 11:43:39 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 10:25:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 21, 2016, 10:10:06 am
Quote from: Yada on April 21, 2016, 09:42:01 am
road trip, brahz? This looks like da

[ img suppressed to keep sh*t on topic ]

http://copenhagenbeerfest.com

Damn, that sure looks pretty awesome.

The festival does too.

I'd be willing to say this looks like one of the best beer fests I've sen advertised in a loooong time.

great lineup of breweries, but until we know exactly what beers are being brought i'd hold off on the superlatives.  if everyone on that list brings their flagships: meh (sure, you have hill farmstead and jester king which can't go wrong, but otherwise...)

How hard should i push my friend to make the 20 mile trek to Jester King when he's in Austin for a work conference? He'll have a car rental, but he'll also have his not interested in beer wife and kids in tow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 02:05:58 pm
i've only tried two JK beers, and they were both awesome sours.  i'd certainly make that trek.

as to how hard you should push your workmate... depends on cost vs. reward.  assume the worse, that's it a horrible trip and his wife and kids hate him for it.  how much will he resent you, how much will you can, and does he have any power to get back at you? ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2016, 02:10:35 pm
yeah...I'd go straight to the wife
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 21, 2016, 02:12:52 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 02:05:58 pm
i've only tried two JK beers, and they were both awesome sours.  i'd certainly make that trek.

as to how hard you should push your workmate... depends on cost vs. reward.  assume the worse, that's it a horrible trip and his wife and kids hate him for it.  how much will he resent you, how much will you can, and does he have any power to get back at you? ;D

He's a good friend who just happens to be a workmate at this point. We rarely do work that overlaps. I told him about it, as well as pointed him toward a couple of other promising beer spots...it's up to him to take it from there...I'm sayin no more.

Speaking of sours, sweet deal on Lolita on draft at P Street right now. Don't tell anyone, I want there to be some left after work tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2016, 03:27:31 pm
Edit...nevermind...April fools joke

kinda missed this news....

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/12916367_375147702609436_6625004419824544818_o.jpg)
(http://loudounnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/TMBC_can_lineup_web.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 22, 2016, 11:37:29 am
So I finally got to Aslin last night and tried the highly acclaimed Master of Karate.  Wow.  Blown away!
Probably the best beer I've ever had, let alone the best IPA. No one else compares IMHO - not Hopslam, Pliny, Alpha Domina Mellis,  Dirt Wolf nor Heady.  A true fruit bomb.  Everything about it was tremendous.  The aroma itself is a beautiful thing.  I kept waiting for the cloudiness to dissipate and it never did.  Nice head as well.  Filled my growler.  Also thought the Deceiver imperial stout was excellent.  Kudos to Aslin.  They've really got something special going on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2016, 01:59:44 pm
So apparently this is a thing http://blackflagbrewingco.com/ (http://blackflagbrewingco.com/) in Columbia MD...but no Raymond Pettibon references (not open yet, but pretty soon)

I read that gordon biersch navy yard is going to be releasing a Sour on tap



and looks like Sehkraft is finally pouring their own beers...only 6 months after actually opening?
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and Wicked weed is coming to philly on 5/3

 (http://www.monkscafe.com/events.cfm)The debut of Wicked Weed Brewery in Philly- meet Walt    Tuesday, May 03, 2016     4-7pm     Cash Bar 

Monk's is thrilled to host the Pennsylvania debut of Wicked Weed during the Craft Brewer's Conference.  Join us in the back bar for a meet and greet with brewer Walt Dickinson and the Wicked Weed crew, who will be taking our over taps with up to 20 of their incredible brews, as well as bringing up a few select bottles from their southern cellar.

Walt and his brother Luke started Wicked Weed in 2009 in Asheville, North Carolina. "This is the best beer to come out of the South - Period!" says Monk's co-owner Tom Peters. "I met Walt while I was attending a Sandor Katz fermentation school in Asheville. His sour beer program is exceptional and Luke's IPA program produces award winning ales." 

Wicked Weed's Pernicious IPA won the Silver Medal for American Style India Pale Ale (a category with a record-breaking 336 entries) at the 2015 Great American Beer Fest, and their sours knocked our socks off at the festival. 

You seriously don't want to miss this event.

Walt just got back to us today with this insane list.

Angel of Darkness

Bedeviled

Bourbon Oblivion

Bramble Barrel

Brettaberry

Chocolate Black Angel

Dark Age

Dark Arts

Ferme de Cran

Freak

Golden Angel

Gose

Infadel

La bonte Pear

Lunatic

Napoleon

Oaxacan

Pericious

Red Angel

Ricks Zwickel

What an amazing variety of flavors and styles. You will be blown away. Be the first in Philly to sample such a wide range of  Wicked Weed ? beer that is.

They are all coming in 1/6 kegs so we?ll probably serve them in 5 or 6 ounce size so more guest have a chance to taste these great beers.
 
   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 04:31:47 pm
tried to hit WF to grab Parabola which came in today but i got there too late at 12:15.  thanks, beeradvocate.

instead, i got:

1) a pour and a half growler of rye-on-rye-on-rye (https://www.boulevard.com/BoulevardBeers/rye-on-rye-on-rye/).  sweet baby bajeebus that stuff is awesome.  highly recommended, if you can get some.

2) a bottle of Stone's Best After 4.20.17 brett IPA, because i'm a sucker for all things Stone.

3) a DC Brau collaboration six-pack from this past weekend's 5th anniversary party.  i should have grabbed a second one, this mixer looks solid:

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2016, 04:48:22 pm
Sorry you missed out on the Parabola, Sweetcell. I didn't even try, as the secuirty here harasses me even when i have empthy growlers.

My wife used to love that Rye on Rye, but i'm not sure she loved the last bottle as much. Perhaps it didn't age well and needs to be consumed fresh.

I'm planning on picking up one of those DC Brau sixers myself.

And P Street has 32 oz growler fills of Lolita for $10 ($6 for a pint onsite consumption). Sorry SteveWizzle, I'm all over that deal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 04:53:42 pm
over the past few weeks the missus and i have been enjoying Weyerbacher's Blasphemy, a whiskey-barrel-aged belgian quad.  not only tasty, but decently priced at $9.99 for 750 ml.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on April 22, 2016, 05:07:54 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2016, 04:48:22 pm


And P Street has 32 oz growler fills of Lolita for $10 ($6 for a pint onsite consumption). Sorry SteveWizzle, I'm all over that deal.

I just got 64 oz for $17 after the happy hour rebate.  The office has decided to do growlers on Fridays now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2016, 05:21:23 pm
Quote from: gavroche on April 22, 2016, 05:07:54 pm
I just got 64 oz for $17 after the happy hour rebate.  The office has decided to do growlers on Fridays now.
2 Qs

HH rebate??
where do you work?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2016, 05:42:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 04:31:47 pm
1) a pour and a half growler of rye-on-rye-on-rye (https://www.boulevard.com/BoulevardBeers/rye-on-rye-on-rye/).  sweet baby bajeebus that stuff is awesome.  highly recommended, if you can get some.
dang at 14.6 abv 32 oz seems like a 6 pack!
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3) a DC Brau collaboration six-pack from this past weekend's 5th anniversary party.  i should have grabbed a second one, this mixer looks solid:
oh good these are radially available, kind thought they were only for the 5 year party
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 05:44:22 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| Ƭ̵̬̊. on April 22, 2016, 05:42:03 pm
oh good these are radially available, kind thought they were only for the 5 year party

assuming you mean "readily" available - i fear the answer is NO.  i think these are very limited.  grab one while/if you can.  pun unintended, but funny!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 05:44:47 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2016, 04:48:22 pm
Sorry you missed out on the Parabola, Sweetcell.

bah, i've got several bottles from past years in the cellar so it's not like i'm hurting for the stuff.  the only frustration for me is that i've been bugging them for weeks, several times a week, asking when it was coming in.  finally comes in, and a few johnny-come-latelies that happen to check BA at the right moment get some.  oh well ;D

Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2016, 04:48:22 pm
I didn't even try, as the secuirty here harasses me even when i have empthy growlers.

the struggle is real.

Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2016, 04:48:22 pm
My wife used to love that Rye on Rye, but i'm not sure she loved the last bottle as much. Perhaps it didn't age well and needs to be consumed fresh.

but have you guys tried the double-barrel-aged rye-on-rye-on-rye?  i might be wrong, but i believe this is the first time they have released this double-aged version.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2016, 06:04:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 05:44:22 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| Ƭ̵̬̊. on April 22, 2016, 05:42:03 pm
oh good these are radially available, kind thought they were only for the 5 year party

assuming you mean "readily" available - i fear the answer is NO.  i think these are very limited.  grab one while/if you can.  pun unintended, but funny!
no I meant RADially
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2016, 08:03:23 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| Ƭ̵̬̊. on April 22, 2016, 05:21:23 pm
Quote from: gavroche on April 22, 2016, 05:07:54 pm
I just got 64 oz for $17 after the happy hour rebate.  The office has decided to do growlers on Fridays now.
2 Qs

HH rebate??
where do you work?

$1 off pints and 32 oz fills, $2 off 64 oz fills.
And yes, where do you work!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2016, 10:14:18 pm
Picked up a 4 pack of the kirsch gose by victory...excellent!  Thanks for the recommendation
I really used to steer clear of the fruity stuff, but I've turned the corner.  I just wasn't having good fruity beers.

Also picked up a growler of Ocelot's Vandals, that is a delicious IPA.

The Arlington Brew Shop is quickly becoming a destination location
great deal on growlers and really good local/fresh selection continually rotating

also been picking up some of their one gallon ingredient kits...two batches for $20 is a good deal IMO
Mostly lighter stuff (amber, Hefe) but looking forward to the Hoppy Belgian

went there hoping to find waldo..but that was gone quick...possibly more next week
but they said they were getting the DC Brau 5 year pack next week

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on April 22, 2016, 10:46:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2016, 08:03:23 pm
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| Ƭ̵̬̊. on April 22, 2016, 05:21:23 pm
Quote from: gavroche on April 22, 2016, 05:07:54 pm
I just got 64 oz for $17 after the happy hour rebate.  The office has decided to do growlers on Fridays now.
2 Qs

HH rebate??
where do you work?



$1 off pints and 32 oz fills, $2 off 64 oz fills.
And yes, where do you work!


Yup, HH from 4:00-7:00 every weekday.  We killed the 64 oz of Lolita as well as 64 ounces of 8 point which was $9 bucks.  14th and L, so a pretty quick walk.  US NGO folks like our beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 23, 2016, 09:00:38 am
Quote from: SideBurner |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| Ƭ̵̬̊. on April 22, 2016, 10:14:18 pm
Picked up a 4 pack of the kirsch gose by victory...excellent!  Thanks for the recommendation
I really used to steer clear of the fruity stuff, but I've turned the corner.  I just wasn't having good fruity beers.

Also picked up a growler of Ocelot's Vandals, that is a delicious IPA.

The Arlington Brew Shop is quickly becoming a destination location
great deal on growlers and really good local/fresh selection continually rotating

also been picking up some of their one gallon ingredient kits...two batches for $20 is a good deal IMO
Mostly lighter stuff (amber, Hefe) but looking forward to the Hoppy Belgian

went there hoping to find waldo..but that was gone quick...possibly more next week
but they said they were getting the DC Brau 5 year pack next week



Granted they're not the same styles, but both have the cherry fruit thing going on....so we did a side by side of Kirsch Gose and Ommegang Rosetta...both very good...conclusion was Kirsch Gose better for warmer weather, Rosetta better for colder weather. I think i like the Rosetta slightly more.

My wife really likes the Waldo, for me its a bit too boozy (I'll choose a 6% Aslin ipa anyday over a boozy 11.5%  ipa). I'll probably get a second six pack for her pleasure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 25, 2016, 08:35:22 am
Quote from: Yada on March 28, 2016, 09:17:41 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 27, 2016, 09:24:46 am
http://www.pendruid.com/about/

Place looks killer.... Hopefully I get out there by the year 2022.

After reaching the summit of Old Rag yesterday, some family refreshments were well earned. Hence, we hit Pen Druid (and later Carousel Treats for the kid's sweet tooth). Only four beers on tap, we tried two of them, both we very good. One was a really nice dark sour. Ok, not in the same league as Russian River sours, but much better than any of the sours I've tasted at Ocelot. The other was a pilsner done with wild yeast, and man did it really hit the spot after many hours of hiking.

Talked a tad bit with one of the brothers (who instantly recognized my de Molen t-shirt), seemed like a really nice guy who's excited to be doing what they're doing. Sounds like they're commited to going the wild ales route, sure hope they bottle some of it and send it our way. The music was kinda indie psyche rock, not really my thing but I'll still take that over a lot of stuff.

So good beer, good vibe, and I've found a new stop anytime I'm out that way. (which is usually a few times a year) . Y'all should too!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 25, 2016, 09:11:42 am
when you drink a bunch of fresh Trillium and Treehouse IPAs and Aslin's Master of Karate kind of blows them all out of the water (at least ALL of the tree house beers, nipping at the heels and better than some of the Trillium brews). How exciting to have this brewery in the DC area!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 25, 2016, 09:51:17 am
Quote from: Yada on April 25, 2016, 09:11:42 am
when you drink a bunch of fresh Trillium and Treehouse IPAs and Aslin's Master of Karate kind of blows them all out of the water (at least ALL of the tree house beers, nipping at the heels and better than some of the Trillium brews). How exciting to have this brewery in the DC area!!
pedaled by on sunday and wanted to stop in and get a fresh MoK...but time was not on my side
Penn druid sounds awesome, really want to make a road trip out there...too bad it's not of the bike path :/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 25, 2016, 02:56:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 04:31:47 pm
Perennial Artisan Ales (St. Louis, MO) ? ?Pink Pallet Jack? Belgian-Style Saison
Fun fact: both Perennial and DC Brau own pink pallet jacks. The similar piece of brewery equipment lends its name to their collaboration. The ?Pink Pallet Jack? takes a traditional style (Belgian-style Saison) and adds a twist with the addition of Rose Hips and Hibiscus, which will give the beer a ?pinkish? hue.

This beer was kind of disgusting IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 25, 2016, 03:11:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 25, 2016, 02:56:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 04:31:47 pm
Perennial Artisan Ales (St. Louis, MO) ? ?Pink Pallet Jack? Belgian-Style Saison
Fun fact: both Perennial and DC Brau own pink pallet jacks. The similar piece of brewery equipment lends its name to their collaboration. The ?Pink Pallet Jack? takes a traditional style (Belgian-style Saison) and adds a twist with the addition of Rose Hips and Hibiscus, which will give the beer a ?pinkish? hue.

This beer was kind of disgusting IMO.

Have you had other beers that used Rose Hips and/or Hibiscus?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 25, 2016, 03:12:48 pm
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|  🌈 on April 25, 2016, 09:51:17 am
Quote from: Yada on April 25, 2016, 09:11:42 am
when you drink a bunch of fresh Trillium and Treehouse IPAs and Aslin's Master of Karate kind of blows them all out of the water (at least ALL of the tree house beers, nipping at the heels and better than some of the Trillium brews). How exciting to have this brewery in the DC area!!
pedaled by on sunday and wanted to stop in and get a fresh MoK...but time was not on my side
Penn druid sounds awesome, really want to make a road trip out there...too bad it's not of the bike path :/

Don't remember exactly where you live, but it's 71 miles from Arlington. Would be one heck of a round trip bike ride just to make it to a brewery!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 25, 2016, 03:40:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 25, 2016, 03:11:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 25, 2016, 02:56:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 04:31:47 pm
Perennial Artisan Ales (St. Louis, MO) ? ?Pink Pallet Jack? Belgian-Style Saison
Fun fact: both Perennial and DC Brau own pink pallet jacks. The similar piece of brewery equipment lends its name to their collaboration. The ?Pink Pallet Jack? takes a traditional style (Belgian-style Saison) and adds a twist with the addition of Rose Hips and Hibiscus, which will give the beer a ?pinkish? hue.

This beer was kind of disgusting IMO.

Have you had other beers that used Rose Hips and/or Hibiscus?

Not that I recall.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 25, 2016, 03:45:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 25, 2016, 03:12:48 pm
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|  🌈 on April 25, 2016, 09:51:17 am
Quote from: Yada on April 25, 2016, 09:11:42 am
when you drink a bunch of fresh Trillium and Treehouse IPAs and Aslin's Master of Karate kind of blows them all out of the water (at least ALL of the tree house beers, nipping at the heels and better than some of the Trillium brews). How exciting to have this brewery in the DC area!!
pedaled by on sunday and wanted to stop in and get a fresh MoK...but time was not on my side
Penn druid sounds awesome, really want to make a road trip out there...too bad it's not of the bike path :/

Don't remember exactly where you live, but it's 71 miles from Arlington.
good... as that shouldn't be public knowledge...don't need any smut subscriptions please
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Would be one heck of a round trip bike ride just to make it to a brewery!

yeah...looked at it on the map...biggest issue is lack of trails or decent roads to take out there
71 is a bit much one way....but was thinking I could drive to Warrenton and ride from there

this summer might do some stretches of the Skyline drive by bike (driving to skyline) then hitting this place when I'm done


but I don't have a problem doing a 50+ mile ride with a brewery in there
just have to stick to no more than 2 8oz pours and lots of water
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 25, 2016, 03:54:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 25, 2016, 03:40:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 25, 2016, 03:11:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 25, 2016, 02:56:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 04:31:47 pm
Perennial Artisan Ales (St. Louis, MO) ? ?Pink Pallet Jack? Belgian-Style Saison
Fun fact: both Perennial and DC Brau own pink pallet jacks. The similar piece of brewery equipment lends its name to their collaboration. The ?Pink Pallet Jack? takes a traditional style (Belgian-style Saison) and adds a twist with the addition of Rose Hips and Hibiscus, which will give the beer a ?pinkish? hue.

This beer was kind of disgusting IMO.

Have you had other beers that used Rose Hips and/or Hibiscus?

Not that I recall.

So maybe it's a Yada doesn't like the style thing rather than that beer thing?

The Rosee Hibiscus beer from Dieu de Ciel is tasty. And my wife said we tried the Boulevard Hibiscus Gose and liked it (though I don't remember). I have tried anything from the DC Brau mix pack yet.

Anyone get the Founders Sumatra Mountain Brown? I picked up a four pack but haven't tried it yet. I don't drink coffee, but I'm generally a fan of coffee flavored beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 25, 2016, 03:57:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 25, 2016, 03:54:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 25, 2016, 03:40:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 25, 2016, 03:11:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 25, 2016, 02:56:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2016, 04:31:47 pm
Perennial Artisan Ales (St. Louis, MO) ? ?Pink Pallet Jack? Belgian-Style Saison
Fun fact: both Perennial and DC Brau own pink pallet jacks. The similar piece of brewery equipment lends its name to their collaboration. The ?Pink Pallet Jack? takes a traditional style (Belgian-style Saison) and adds a twist with the addition of Rose Hips and Hibiscus, which will give the beer a ?pinkish? hue.

This beer was kind of disgusting IMO.

Have you had other beers that used Rose Hips and/or Hibiscus?

Not that I recall.

So maybe it's a Yada doesn't like the style thing rather than that beer thing?

The Rosee Hibiscus beer from Dieu de Ciel is tasty. And my wife said we tried the Boulevard Hibiscus Gose and liked it (though I don't remember). I have tried anything from the DC Brau mix pack yet.

Anyone get the Founders Sumatra Mountain Brown? I picked up a four pack but haven't tried it yet. I don't drink coffee, but I'm generally a fan of coffee flavored beers.

Quite possibly, not a huge fan of belgian saisons, but seem to know a good one when I have one. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 25, 2016, 05:02:08 pm
this weekend i had 4 of the 6 beers from the DC Brau mix-pack.  only ones i haven't tried yet are the hibiscus saison and the dunkel.  the 4 i have had were all very good to excellent.  would buy this mix-pack again just based on those 4.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2016, 02:41:04 pm
Aslin-- APR 30
Mind The Hop Release
Sat 11 AM

(local regular I met said this is the one to get)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2016, 03:18:27 pm
In 2015, Virginia was among four states to see a net increase of more than 20 breweries.

https://www.porchdrinking.com/articles/2016/04/26/lake-anne-brew-house/ (https://www.porchdrinking.com/articles/2016/04/26/lake-anne-brew-house/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2016, 03:22:05 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12670352_346592878797952_1084688188935239785_n.jpg?oh=625d1575ce81e64d0a744302154912a5&oe=57ABC689)

Now in its third year, Wicked Weed Funkatorium Invitational is a gathering of sour and wild ales from across the country featuring well established and up and coming breweries that are paving the way for sour and wild craft beer.

 ?We believe strongly in this craft and the cause it supports,? states Head Blender, Walt Dickinson. ?We want to be a voice moving the conversation about sour beer forward in the Southeast. Wicked Weed Funkatorium Invitational's goal is to bring breweries, who are dedicated to the craft of sour beer from all across the country into our own back yard to showcase the full potential of American barrel-aged sour and wild ales.?

 *TICKETS GO ON SALE IN MAY*

 Attending Breweries (Subject to Change)

 10 Barrel
 Beechwood
 Black Project
 Blue Jacket
 Breakside
 Creature Comforts
 Funkwerks
 Lost Abbey
 Night Shift Brewing
 Other Half
 Perennial
 Rare Barrel
 Sante Adarius
 Scratch Breweing Co
 Transmitter Brewing
 Trintity
 TRVE
 Yazoo
 Allagash
 Almanac
 Avery
 Boulevard
 Bruery Terreux
 Burial
 Fonta Flora
 Cascade
 Crooked Stave
 Ecliptic
 Goose Island
 Green Bench
 Green Man
 Grimm
 Haw River
 Jester King
 Jolly Pumpkin
 Natty Greene's
 New Belgium
 New Holland
 Off Color
 Prairie
 Steel String
 Stone
 Trophy
 Upland
 Westbrook
 Wooden Robot
 Wrecking Bar
 Zebulon
 ... and more
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 26, 2016, 04:03:16 pm
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 26, 2016, 02:41:04 pm
Aslin-- APR 30
Mind The Hop Release
Sat 11 AM

(local regular I met said this is the one to get)

It's really, really subjective and all their IPA's taste somewhat similiar...

That's their #3 for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 26, 2016, 04:09:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 26, 2016, 04:03:16 pm
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 26, 2016, 02:41:04 pm
Aslin-- APR 30
Mind The Hop Release
Sat 11 AM

(local regular I met said this is the one to get)

It's really, really subjective and all their IPA's taste somewhat similiar...

That's their #3 for me.

Master of Karate may be my fave but its splitting hairs

Excited to try Astro Zombie
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2016, 09:50:26 pm
So, not sure any of you are excited about the Cap City SpingFest Mid Atlantic Beer Festival at Shirlington
I got a free pass so am going early

Just got an email of all the breweries:

CCBC Beer
Spencer Devon
Corcoran
Adventure
Ornery
Smartmouth
O?Connor
Honor
Full Tilt
Forge
Pleasure House
Heritage
Tin Cannon
Tall Tales

James River
Lost Rhino
Mad Fox
Caboose
DuClaw
Gordon Biersch
District Chophouse
Port City
Rock Bottom
Hellbender
Fair Winds
New District
3 Stars
Adroit Theory
Atlas
Starr Hill
DC Brau
Bold Rock (Cider)
Flying Dog
Heavy Seas
Old Bust Head
Devils Backbone
Copa di Vino (Wine)
Three Notch?d
Hardywood
Mustang Sally (even though I've never heard of these guys...I refuse to drink from them on principal)


So the first group of 13 I've yet to try (or even heard of these breweries)
any one have any opinions of ones are must trys?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 27, 2016, 09:27:29 am
Picked up some Waldo yesterday.  This is my first new favorite beer in a very long time, I'll be sad to see it go.  Love the bright tangerine / mango / pineapple mashup right in the middle of all those hops.  Well balanced, hides the 12% blast.  I may have another tonight...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 27, 2016, 09:51:42 am
Quote from: ja,ded on April 27, 2016, 09:27:29 am
Picked up some Waldo yesterday.  This is my first new favorite beer in a very long time, I'll be sad to see it go.  Love the bright tangerine / mango / pineapple mashup right in the middle of all those hops.  Well balanced, hides the 12% blast.  I may have another tonight...

We split a Waldo last night. Four thumbs up from us. Bought two six packs, might have to get more if i can find it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 27, 2016, 09:53:00 am
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 26, 2016, 09:50:26 pm
So, not sure any of you are excited about the Cap City SpingFest Mid Atlantic Beer Festival at Shirlington
I got a free pass so am going early

Just got an email of all the breweries:

CCBC Beer
Spencer Devon
Corcoran
Adventure
Ornery
Smartmouth
O?Connor
Honor
Full Tilt
Forge
Pleasure House
Heritage
Tin Cannon
Tall Tales

James River
Lost Rhino
Mad Fox
Caboose
DuClaw
Gordon Biersch
District Chophouse
Port City
Rock Bottom
Hellbender
Fair Winds
New District
3 Stars
Adroit Theory
Atlas
Starr Hill
DC Brau
Bold Rock (Cider)
Flying Dog
Heavy Seas
Old Bust Head
Devils Backbone
Copa di Vino (Wine)
Three Notch?d
Hardywood
Mustang Sally (even though I've never heard of these guys...I refuse to drink from them on principal)


So the first group of 13 I've yet to try (or even heard of these breweries)
any one have any opinions of ones are must trys?

It ain't no wicked weed invitational, I'll tell ya that much. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 27, 2016, 10:06:00 am
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 26, 2016, 09:50:26 pm
So, not sure any of you are excited about the Cap City SpingFest Mid Atlantic Beer Festival at Shirlington
I got a free pass so am going early

Just got an email of all the breweries:

CCBC Beer
Spencer Devon
Corcoran
Adventure
Ornery
Smartmouth
O?Connor
Honor
Full Tilt
Forge
Pleasure House
Heritage
Tin Cannon
Tall Tales

James River
Lost Rhino
Mad Fox
Caboose
DuClaw
Gordon Biersch
District Chophouse
Port City
Rock Bottom
Hellbender
Fair Winds
New District
3 Stars
Adroit Theory
Atlas
Starr Hill
DC Brau
Bold Rock (Cider)
Flying Dog
Heavy Seas
Old Bust Head
Devils Backbone
Copa di Vino (Wine)
Three Notch?d
Hardywood
Mustang Sally (even though I've never heard of these guys...I refuse to drink from them on principal)


So the first group of 13 I've yet to try (or even heard of these breweries)
any one have any opinions of ones are must trys?

We've been to the Spencer Devon Brewpub in downtown Fredericksburg. Nice place, pretty decent ipa and stout. Went there after a day of tubing on the Rappahannock. I highly recommend the tubing. I wouldn't seek out Spencer Devon, but would consider going again the next time I'm in Fredericksburg.

Corcoran Brewing is in Purcellville. We stopped there one time when in the area (I think we were apple picking.) We had originally intended to stop at Adroit Theory, but they were closed for a members only event. Corcoran beers were ok, not as good as Spencer Devon. They did have some older folks playing bluegrass when we were there, so that was cool. I'm pretty sure it's right off a bike trail, as I saw several bikers stop in when we were there. If in the area, I'd consider stopping in again, but I'd more likely choose Adroit if just choosing one.

We've also been to Heritage in Manassas. They seem to get good distribution in NoVA. I think they're pretty big on the patriot theme (e.g. Freedom Isn't Free IPA). They make a good scotch ale, their other beers are pretty weak, imo. The thing that struck me about their tasting room is that when I asked for a tiny taste of something, the bartender refused and told me "That's what flights are for." We don't plan on returning there.

I think Full Tilt is Baltimore based and O'Connor is VA based (the other part of VA), but know nothing more about them. After that, I'm clueless on the other eight.

Edit: Plus what Yada said, right above.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2016, 10:38:52 am
Quote from: Yada on April 27, 2016, 09:53:00 am
It ain't no wicked weed invitational, I'll tell ya that much. 
as if...kinda want to make vacation plans to Ashville for that
Misses actually wants to visit that town...so perfect storm
problem would be leaving her with the kids for an afternoon while I get my funk on ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2016, 10:53:34 am
this weekend we'll be driving to Charlottesville taking I-66 --> US-29/15.  if i can only make one brewery stop, what should it be?

i'm tempted to petition that we kick up to 267 and hit Aslin, but i suspect that detour will be veto'ed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2016, 10:55:37 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 27, 2016, 09:51:42 am
We split a Waldo last night. Four thumbs up from us. Bought two six packs, might have to get more if i can find it.

ugh, i'm hoping i can find some today.  i haven't had a chance to go looking yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 27, 2016, 11:12:56 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 27, 2016, 10:53:34 am
this weekend we'll be driving to Charlottesville taking I-66 --> US-29/15.  if i can only make one brewery stop, what should it be?

i'm tempted to petition that we kick up to 267 and hit Aslin, but i suspect that detour will be veto'ed.

Was going to say Aslin on the way down... crowlers for the road, brah!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 27, 2016, 11:24:16 am
Quote from: Yada on April 27, 2016, 11:12:56 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 27, 2016, 10:53:34 am
this weekend we'll be driving to Charlottesville taking I-66 --> US-29/15.  if i can only make one brewery stop, what should it be?

i'm tempted to petition that we kick up to 267 and hit Aslin, but i suspect that detour will be veto'ed.

Was going to say Aslin on the way down... crowlers for the road, brah!

Aslin would add 24 minutes to your 2:13 trip. Doesn't seem that ridiculous.

If that's a no-go, I'd say just wait until you get to Charlottesville and hit up Champion. Their recent Fruit Basket DIPA was one of the best I've had made in VA (though it's not one of their regulars).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2016, 11:26:04 am
Brew the Zoo...July 19th 6-9pm
not sure on the pricing ...FONZ members get it cheaper and earlier

they haven't listed the breweries...but here are the list last year  (https://nationalzoo.si.edu/ActivitiesAndEvents/Celebrations/Brew/brew.cfm)was pretty extensive
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2016, 11:36:05 am
not exactly that close...but much closer than Bend
4 hour drive from DC...guess if we send the kids to VATech, be a great pit stop

Roanoke City Council finalizes deal with Deschutes (http://wsls.com/2016/04/18/roanoke-city-council-finalizes-deal-with-deschutes/)

developing a facility capable of one day producing a million barrels of beer a year, and the other is making sure the product tastes exactly like it does on the west coast.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2016, 11:54:32 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 27, 2016, 11:24:16 am
Aslin would add 24 minutes to your 2:13 trip. Doesn't seem that ridiculous.

if it was just me and the missus, 24 minutes would not be an issue.  but we'll have the kiddos with us, and after ~2 hours in the car an extra 24 minutes is hard to sell... then again it would be an opportunity to stop and let them run around, so who knows.  negotiations will commence tonight.

Quote from: Space Freely on April 27, 2016, 11:24:16 am
If that's a no-go, I'd say just wait until you get to Charlottesville and hit up Champion. Their recent Fruit Basket DIPA was one of the best I've had made in VA (though it's not one of their regulars).

cool, thanks for the rec!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2016, 12:52:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 27, 2016, 11:54:32 am
.  but we'll have the kiddos with us, and after ~2 hours in the car an extra 24 minutes is hard to sell... then again it would be an opportunity to stop and let them run around, so who knows.  negotiations will commence tonight.
it's in a warehouse/office park ...not a whole lot of places to run around

although you could send the wife here as it's in the same office park
http://www.divafitonline.com/
(http://www.divafitonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/spinclass-300x252.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 27, 2016, 12:55:31 pm
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 27, 2016, 12:52:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 27, 2016, 11:54:32 am
.  but we'll have the kiddos with us, and after ~2 hours in the car an extra 24 minutes is hard to sell... then again it would be an opportunity to stop and let them run around, so who knows.  negotiations will commence tonight.
it's in a warehouse/office park ...not a whole lot of places to run around

although you could send the wife here as it's in the same office park
http://www.divafitonline.com/
(http://www.divafitonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/spinclass-300x252.jpg)

They're not exactly old enough to be marathon training...there's probably enough space for them do do circles around the tables...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2016, 01:05:10 pm
oh and the good news is the crowelers are back online (wasn't working for the last few weeks)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 27, 2016, 02:17:24 pm
Quote from: SideBurnedOut  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|  on April 27, 2016, 01:05:10 pm
oh and the good news is the crowelers are back online (wasn't working for the last few weeks)
thats not entirely true, they have crowlers almost every week but also run out within a few days every time necessitating a day or two of growler fills

It must be pretty apparent to them by now that things are blowing up for them so I'm not sure why they don't just order larger amounts of crowlers - maybe they don't have enough space freely (see what I did there!!)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2016, 02:22:34 pm
Quote from: brennser on April 27, 2016, 02:17:24 pm
Quote from: SideBurnedOut  |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|  on April 27, 2016, 01:05:10 pm
oh and the good news is the crowelers are back online (wasn't working for the last few weeks)
thats not entirely true, they have crowlers almost every week but also run out within a few days every time necessitating a day or two of growler fills

It must be pretty apparent to them by now that things are blowing up for them so I'm not sure why they don't just order larger amounts of crowlers - maybe they don't have enough space freely (see what I did there!!)
or just check in with Bresnner first :)

and dang another use of 'space freely'!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2016, 05:51:13 pm
Quote from: brennser on April 27, 2016, 02:17:24 pm
they have crowlers almost every week but also run out within a few days every time necessitating a day or two of growler fills

there is a shortage of cans, including crowlers.

some craft beer types are accusing the big boys of buying up all the stock with the intent of making life hard on small breweries: they spend big bucks on a canning line, then can't use it for lack of cans.

http://fortune.com/2015/12/15/craft-beer-can-shortage/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/business/craft-brewers-face-competition-for-beer-cans.html

Quote from: brennser on April 27, 2016, 02:17:24 pm
It must be pretty apparent to them by now that things are blowing up for them so I'm not sure why they don't just order larger amounts of crowlers

like hops, it's not that they aren't ordering them... it's that they can't.  there is no stock to order.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2016, 07:42:14 pm
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 27, 2016, 12:52:21 pm
it's in a warehouse/office park ...not a whole lot of places to run around

although you could send the wife here as it's in the same office park

I'm in.  And if the Sweetercell takes you up on this I will pay dearly for photos.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2016, 07:46:35 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 27, 2016, 07:42:14 pm
if the Sweetercell
nice...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2016, 10:54:07 pm
Very timely that they are courting northern Virginians
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/13043576_1000588290023744_7274834842016436078_n.jpg?oh=8e854e78c623cbc2e2c133d72e5d4a56&oe=579F70A6)

We?re excited to bring our pub to Arlington, Virginia, for one day! Join us on Sunday, May 15th in conjunction with Taste of Arlington where you?ll see the 400+ foot bar set up and in action, creating a pop-up-pub of epic proportions. The bar is crafted from reclaimed wood and steel from Oregon, and the Street Pub is a one stop shop to try lots of our beers with over 60 taps ? from the coveted Reserve Series rarities (think The Abyss) all the way to year-round favorites like Black Butte Porter, Mirror Pond Pale Ale and Fresh Squeezed IPA.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 28, 2016, 09:08:09 am
http://www.lawsonsfinest.com/our-beer/lawsons-finest-a-new-home-for-the-future/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 28, 2016, 09:10:43 am
Quote from: Yada on April 28, 2016, 09:08:09 am
http://www.lawsonsfinest.com/our-beer/lawsons-finest-a-new-home-for-the-future/
yippe more awesome beer in Vermont that I'll never get to have
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 28, 2016, 10:09:59 am
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 28, 2016, 09:10:43 am
Quote from: Yada on April 28, 2016, 09:08:09 am
http://www.lawsonsfinest.com/our-beer/lawsons-finest-a-new-home-for-the-future/
yippe more awesome beer in Vermont that I'll never get to have

sorry breah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 28, 2016, 11:22:36 am
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 28, 2016, 09:10:43 am
Quote from: Yada on April 28, 2016, 09:08:09 am
http://www.lawsonsfinest.com/our-beer/lawsons-finest-a-new-home-for-the-future/
yippe more awesome beer in Vermont that I'll never get to have

they're opening a facility that will more than quadruple their output.  how can that not increase you chances of tasting it some day?  trades, people coming back from VT trips, special events in bars here, etc...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 28, 2016, 11:48:57 am
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 28, 2016, 09:10:43 am
Quote from: Yada on April 28, 2016, 09:08:09 am
http://www.lawsonsfinest.com/our-beer/lawsons-finest-a-new-home-for-the-future/
yippe more awesome beer in Vermont that I'll never get to have

Why not just drive to VT some weekend? Or fly - tickets are cheap on SW
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 28, 2016, 11:49:52 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 28, 2016, 11:22:36 am
Quote from: SideBurnedOut 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍱 on April 28, 2016, 09:10:43 am
Quote from: Yada on April 28, 2016, 09:08:09 am
http://www.lawsonsfinest.com/our-beer/lawsons-finest-a-new-home-for-the-future/
yippe more awesome beer in Vermont that I'll never get to have

they're opening a facility that will more than quadruple their output.  how can that not increase you chances of tasting it some day?  trades, people coming back from VT trips, special events in bars here, etc...
only trades my friends do are insults
but there is always hope or dope if that doesn't work
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 29, 2016, 01:23:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 27, 2016, 10:55:37 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 27, 2016, 09:51:42 am
We split a Waldo last night. Four thumbs up from us. Bought two six packs, might have to get more if i can find it.

ugh, i'm hoping i can find some today.  i haven't had a chance to go looking yet.

so i picked up two sixers on wednesday.  i'm halfway through the first one, and i'm not particularly impressed.  amazing aroma but the taste is only OK.  i'm getting some alcohol heat, some astringency and something that i can only describe as the taste of turpentine (even though i've never actually tasted it, only smelled it).  none of these characteristics aren't so strong as to make the beer undrinkable, but they detract from my enjoyment.  i had two last night, over 3 hours, and it was a slog.  glad i got to taste this beer but one six-pack would have been enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: dyecraig on April 29, 2016, 03:18:50 pm
Quote from: ja,ded on April 27, 2016, 09:27:29 am
Picked up some Waldo yesterday.  This is my first new favorite beer in a very long time, I'll be sad to see it go.  Love the bright tangerine / mango / pineapple mashup right in the middle of all those hops.  Well balanced, hides the 12% blast.  I may have another tonight...
where did you find it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2016, 03:21:34 pm
Quote from: dyecraig on April 29, 2016, 03:18:50 pm
Quote from: ja,ded on April 27, 2016, 09:27:29 am
Picked up some Waldo yesterday.  This is my first new favorite beer in a very long time, I'll be sad to see it go.  Love the bright tangerine / mango / pineapple mashup right in the middle of all those hops.  Well balanced, hides the 12% blast.  I may have another tonight...
where did you find it?

I got some more at Schneiders in Cap Hill yesterday for $11.99/six pack. They still had a decent amount left.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 29, 2016, 03:21:41 pm
I bought it at Quench (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Quench!+Craft+Beer+%26+Wine/@39.0765724,-77.0032002,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b7c55a87f41bff:0x94c56b922f1a070a), though I probably paid too much for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2016, 03:31:15 pm
They also still had it (Waldo) as of yesterday at Total Wine Fairfax for $11.99, $10.99 if you have the coupon.

If you're into drinking beer for the sake of getting drunk, that seems like a prety awesome price point for a 11.5% six pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on April 29, 2016, 07:01:47 pm
Im drinking. Halfway, to drunk.  Gurl.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 29, 2016, 08:48:03 pm
still have yet to source waldo in Nova...

the Brew Shop said DC brau had issues with selling the cans in VA
so they have all of them on draft!
only bummer was they only had Perennial Pink Pallet Jack on tap tonight
She said they were going to rotate the kegs until the kick
which one should I get a growler off? (they also have those 16 oz growlers)

also saw Devil's backbone had this
(http://cheersonline.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/02/CranGose_glasslifestyle.jpg)


Had this tonight and am a very satisfied customer
(http://image.nj.com/home/njo-media/width620/img/food/photo/17320708-mmmain.png)

oh and walkie...after a few of these EG's I'm wit ya
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on April 30, 2016, 03:24:24 am
That Cran-Gose is by far my favorite Devil's Backbone beer. I enjoyed a sixer of that and a four pack of Victory Kirsch Gose last weekend. Mmm mmm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 30, 2016, 09:42:52 pm
Shared the DC Brau pack with friends tonight.

The rye DIPA and the imperial stout were both home runs. Wish they'd make them regular beers.

Also had a Waldo side by side with a Wings, and i ting Waldo took it. L just wish Waldo was 8% with that much flaor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2016, 09:36:15 am
Quote from: Unsanity on April 30, 2016, 03:24:24 am
That Cran-Gose is by far my favorite Devil's Backbone beer. I enjoyed a sixer of that and a four pack of Victory Kirsch Gose last weekend. Mmm mmm.
Yeah had some at the Fest and thought it was good, not as good as the Victory
just love that tart cherry

Cap city had a gose on tap...meh

So ended up having some really good brews
Adroit Theory's  both offerings were great and I had more than one of each:
White noise IPA was a stand out
The Imagination Atrophy - Caramel Macchiato Milk Stout was possibly my favorite of the day

Mustang Sally's Porter was really good with excellent body and flavor (look out for these guys, nothing crazy, sticking to traditional styles but making them well)

Three stars - Dissonance (Berliner Style Rye) besides the Gose's this was the only sour offering, but I loved it
Full tilt - Hops the cat was very satisfying and would certainly get that if available


honorable mention
Spencer Devon's - The Chimney's Wee Heavy (scotch ale)
Tin Cannon's - Cavalier Joe Porter
Rock Bottom's - Milk Stout
Heavy Sea's - Loose Cannon Hop3 IPA (barrel aged)
DB - Cran Gose

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2016, 08:36:16 pm
picked up a growler of this

(http://www.thebarleyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/perennial-hopfentea.jpg)

and love it!
(WF arl....mostly because they had the Cigar / DC brau colab on tap at arlbrew, but got there at 5:19 and was denied by a closed sign...so headed to WF to see what I could find)
Used to run for the hills with these fruity beers, but keep finding ones I love
just love the tartness
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 01, 2016, 08:41:34 pm
Picked up a 32 oz crowler of Aslin Mind the Hops for $12. Then two 32 oz growlers of Ocelot Home @Whole Foods for $5 each. Both fantastic beers. Mind the Hops is my favorite Aslin DIPA, and Home is the best Ocelot beer I've had. Damn, I've got a lot of beer to drink.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 02, 2016, 11:09:31 am
didn't make it to aslin on the way back from charlottesville, however we did have dinner saturday night at the Pro Re Nata Brewery (http://www.prnbrewery.com/).  their BBA'ed imperial stout was awesome, the IPA was really good, the belgian pale was kinda forgettable, and the cherry bock was good for what is was supposed to be (sweet bocks really aren't my thing).  good place to bring kids, lots of room for them to run around.  i wouldn't make a trip down there just for this brewery, but it's a solid choice if you're in the area.

a few weekends ago i went to afriend's wedding where several craft beers were being served, but 3 Star's peppercorn saison ruled the roost.  seemed like that was all that anyone was drinking.  i don't think i had ever had it before.  glad to have had an evening of unlimited sampling, greatly enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 02, 2016, 12:41:07 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 02, 2016, 11:09:31 am
didn't make it to aslin on the way back from charlottesville, however we did have dinner saturday night at the Pro Re Nata Brewery (http://www.prnbrewery.com/).  their BBA'ed imperial stout was awesome, the IPA was really good, the belgian pale was kinda forgettable, and the cherry bock was good for what is was supposed to be (sweet bocks really aren't my thing).  good place to bring kids, lots of room for them to run around.  i wouldn't make a trip down there just for this brewery, but it's a solid choice if you're in the area.

a few weekends ago i went to afriend's wedding where several craft beers were being served, but 3 Star's peppercorn saison ruled the roost.  seemed like that was all that anyone was drinking.  i don't think i had ever had it before.  glad to have had an evening of unlimited sampling, greatly enjoyed it.

Given the reason for your trip (if I'm recalling correctly), seemed like Champion would have been the fitting brewery to hit (assuming there was success???)...but it sounds like PRN is a definite must hit if we're down that way at some point...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 02, 2016, 02:35:17 pm
* OFF-TOPIC ALERT*

Quote from: Space Freely on May 02, 2016, 12:41:07 pm
Given the reason for your trip (if I'm recalling correctly), seemed like Champion would have been the fitting brewery to hit (assuming there was success???)

the missus competed in a triathlon.  she won her age group, so yeah Champion would have been perfect ;D

Quote from: Space Freely on May 02, 2016, 12:41:07 pm
but it sounds like PRN is a definite must hit if we're down that way at some point...

it gets a thumbs-up from me.  nice layout, outdoor area with a fire pit, nice staff.  a decent cover band was playing 70's and 80's dance tunes when we were there on saturday night, they were entertaining but quite loud - we moved outside.  the food truck was tasty.  i would hit it again next time i'm in the area. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 02, 2016, 03:07:40 pm
FWIW, there was only one female competitor age 45-49...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 02, 2016, 03:11:42 pm
that's not her age group ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on May 03, 2016, 11:23:52 am
Just returned from an epic beer trip in Vermont, mostly for a bachelor party in Burlington but went up a night early to take advantage. Thursday we did some Heady hunting and got lunch at Three Penny Taproom, then made our way to Waterbury and drank a ton of great beers at Blackback before grabbing dinner at Prohibition Pig. Their in-house Bantam was incredible and a top 5 beer of the weekend.

Friday I got up early and got in line for a case of Heady at Sunflower (got to see the freshly painted truck which looks really cool) then made our way to Hill Farmstead. It wasn't crowded at HF at all which I was pleasantly surprised about but a lot of my buddies weren't too thrilled with what they had on tap (bear in mind a lot of the people I went with live in upstate NY and the bars there get guest kegs of HF all the time). Just standard offerings and they were only doing growler fills for Society & Solitude, which was a bummer. I bought a bottle of Sue to share among our group and that was really delicious. After purchasing a bunch of bottles at HF we made our way back down and grabbed lunch at Lost Nation (had an awesome sesame-crusted tuna sandwich) and then made our way to Burlington for two nights.

My buddy organized a brew tour once the whole bachelor party was in town (approximately 25 people) and got a private bus that took us to four (!) breweries. First stop was Fiddlehead and they had just sold out of Second Fiddle cans which was a huge dagger. Nonetheless, we shared a bunch of pizzas and kicked the keg of the remaining Second Fiddle. Between drinking the bottom of the barrel Second Fiddle and pairing up with Folino's outstanding pizza (the adjoining pizzeria), I was on cloud nine. So dank, so cloudy - it was Aslin-like.

Next stop was Burlington Beer Company which was a really cool spot. I bought a couple bottles of Strange Apparition, their barrel-aged coffee imperial stout and they were $14 a pop for 750mL bottles which was an incredible deal considering I spent $20 for a 500mL bottle of Genealogy of Morals at HF. The Strange Apparition was another Top 5 of the weekend.

Then we headed to Zero Gravity and hung our on their outdoor patio (ideal drinking weather) and briefly stopped at Queen City as it was literally across the street. After the tour, we made a pit stop at the hotel before taking some Ubers to Church Street where we had a bunch of food and beers at Farmhouse Tap & Grill. Saturday probably involved 12 hours of drinking at the very least.

It was a great time, and I was able to bring back a nice haul despite flying. Unfortunately a couple cans punctured in my suitcase due to a last minute packing job when my suitcase was a few pounds overweight and I hastily rearranged everything. Needless to say that suitcase REEKS of hops. Oh well. Good times.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 03, 2016, 11:48:33 am
awesome scene report

... it was Aslin-like :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 03, 2016, 11:03:12 pm
discounts on some upcoming beer fests

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although if you  groupon ...I think you can get in cheaper with this (https://www.groupon.com/deals/gl-dc-on-tap?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=us_dt_sea_ggl_txt_ttt_sr_cbp_ch1_nbr_k*dc%20on%20tap_m*p_d*washington-dc-RTC-Root_g*RTC-gl-dc-on-tap-PHRASE_c*88897495395_ap*1t1_t*kwd-35209178437)
all about timing

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on May 04, 2016, 12:38:47 pm
edit, here are the beers I have tried lately.

1.  lagunitas  -  the waldos.  finally a beer from lagunitas, that doesn't taste like it came from lagunitas.  excellent.  im drunk now and I like it.

2.  founders  mosaic promise  -  very nice and smooth and refreshing.  fuck you all day ipa.

3.  dogfish head 120 minute  -  yes god yes.  excuse me while I go jerk off.

4.  rj rockers  hopquake  -  it was ok.  the bartender told me it was at the end of the keg and was effecting taste.

5.  old busthead  gold cup ris  -  horrible.  hey horses of the gold cup.  go take a shit on this one.

6.  victory  kirsh gose  -  just fuck me now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2016, 12:43:21 pm
Quote from: SideHandSpider |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on May 03, 2016, 11:48:33 am
awesome scene report

... it was Aslin-like :)


You know you've drank a lot when you proclaim something as in the "top 5 beers of the weekend" and that actually means something.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2016, 01:49:55 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on May 04, 2016, 12:38:47 pm
edit, here are the beers I have tried lately.

1.  lagunitas  -  the waldos.  finally a beer from lagunitas, that doesn't taste like it came from lagunitas.  excellent.  im drunk now and I like it.

2.  founders  mosaic promise  -  very nice and smooth and refreshing.  fuck you all day ipa.

3.  dogfish head 120 minute  -  yes god yes.  excuse me while I go jerk off.

4.  rj rockers  hopquake  -  it was ok.  the bartender told me it was at the end of the keg and was effecting taste.

5.  old busthead  gold cup ris  -  horrible.  hey horses of the gold cup.  go take a shit on this one.

6.  victory  kirsh gose  -  just fuck me now.

I think for now on, every post you make (possibly in your signature), you put the picture of yourself in the bow tie (obviously resized to fit the board format nicely).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on May 04, 2016, 01:53:28 pm
why, because I say "too much" sometimes?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2016, 02:02:49 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on May 04, 2016, 01:53:28 pm
why, because I say "too much" sometimes?

I just think a little reminder of what you look like in your bowtie would add a nice little touch to each of your posts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on May 04, 2016, 02:05:40 pm
I do look cute, in them.

(http://saintpigsfunfunbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/cat-with-bowtie-playing-the-ukulele-animated-gif.gif) 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 06, 2016, 11:34:27 am
^just love that walky gif...now I have a great image to think of when he posts


So Penn Druid fans...Event in Gtown may 25th

Historic Brews with Lost Lagers (http://dumbartonhouse.org/event/lostlagers)

Taste history with Mike Stein and Pete Jones of Lost Lagers! Join us at Dumbarton House as Mike and Pete introduce their newest historic beer, ?Colonial Panic? brewed with the Pen Druid Brewing Company. Owners & brewers Jennings, Lain, and Van Carney will be on site for this program to answer your questions about brewing this historic blend. Mike and Pete are noted beer historians of Washington, DC and their latest creation, Colonial Porter, harkens back to the beers brewed at the time of the House?s construction. Imbibe their creation in a historic setting, Dumbarton House, built in the Heights of Georgetown in 1799. Learn about the process of researching historic brews and recreating recipes and be the first to try their authentic, historic beer, a truly presidential porter.

This event includes beer tasting and snacks. Guest must be over 21.


cost $37ish
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2016, 04:53:17 pm
I'm in Fort Collins again. Just thought you guys should know. #arseoverelbow
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 10, 2016, 10:06:33 am
Great news coming out of VT!! Sorry sidetoast that you'll never get to have any.

http://alchemistbeer.com/blog/#8031

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2016, 12:07:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 10, 2016, 10:06:33 am
Great news coming out of VT!! Sorry sidetoast that you'll never get to have any.

http://alchemistbeer.com/blog/#8031


Wouldn't say never, but the likelihood of me visiting the granite state is going to be pretty low for the next few years methinks
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 10, 2016, 12:18:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 10, 2016, 10:06:33 am
Great news coming out of VT!! Sorry sidetoast that you'll never get to have any.

http://alchemistbeer.com/blog/#8031



Once Lawson's is up and running in a couple of years, it will probably be about time for the Freely family to take another Quebec/Vermont road trip.

He could always trade for it...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on May 10, 2016, 12:57:54 pm
Budweiser, is changing their name to, America, on their cans and bottles for this summer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2016, 01:51:28 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on May 10, 2016, 12:57:54 pm
Budweiser, is changing their name to, America, on their cans and bottles for this summer.
just saw that too
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2016/05/budweiser-america.jpg&w=1484)

funny as they are not owned by an American company anymore
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on May 10, 2016, 03:55:45 pm
I have to say I have always really disliked budweiser and bud light.. they taste like crap... and i tend to like the cheap beers..as is well known..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 10, 2016, 03:59:33 pm
I wonder what type of brew Trump drinks?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on May 10, 2016, 04:06:50 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 10, 2016, 03:59:33 pm
I wonder what type of brew Trump drinks?


um, Trump Beer....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 10, 2016, 04:14:36 pm
for anyone looking to get their hop on this saturday:

D.C. Hopfest 2016
May 14 @ 1:00 pm - 4:00 pm
$50

http://www.hellbenderbeer.com/event/d-c-hopfest-2016
tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dc-hopfest-2016-tickets-24820976208

HOPFEST is back ? the only D.C. beer festival by local brewers and for local brewers! This year 17 local DC, MD & VA breweries will pour over 20 of the hoppiest, local craft beers to raise money for the D.C. Brewers Guild! Brews on tap will include old favorites, rare hard-to-finds and one-offs brewed just for HOPFEST. Guests will receive a complimentary tasting glass and unlimited pours. Plus, the Arepa Zone food truck will be on site to serve their award winning arepas.

Participating Breweries:

Hellbender, Atlas, DC Brau, 3 Stars, Right Proper, District Chophouse, Blue Jacket, Adroit Theory, Caboose, Capital City, Port City, Flying Dog, Denizens, Gordon Biersch, Handsome, Calvert Brewing & Lost Rhino.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 10, 2016, 04:29:54 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 10, 2016, 04:14:36 pm
for anyone looking to get their hop on this saturday:

D.C. Hopfest 2016
May 14 @ 1:00 pm - 4:00 pm
$50

http://www.hellbenderbeer.com/event/d-c-hopfest-2016
tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dc-hopfest-2016-tickets-24820976208

HOPFEST is back ? the only D.C. beer festival by local brewers and for local brewers! This year 17 local DC, MD & VA breweries will pour over 20 of the hoppiest, local craft beers to raise money for the D.C. Brewers Guild! Brews on tap will include old favorites, rare hard-to-finds and one-offs brewed just for HOPFEST. Guests will receive a complimentary tasting glass and unlimited pours. Plus, the Arepa Zone food truck will be on site to serve their award winning arepas.

Participating Breweries:

Hellbender, Atlas, DC Brau, 3 Stars, Right Proper, District Chophouse, Blue Jacket, Adroit Theory, Caboose, Capital City, Port City, Flying Dog, Denizens, Gordon Biersch, Handsome, Calvert Brewing & Lost Rhino.

Interesting the best hoppy brewers in the DC area aren't included.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 10, 2016, 04:43:32 pm
indeed.  maybe the new guys don't feel like giving away beer - why would they, they're selling everything they make.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: bob72 on May 11, 2016, 09:07:03 am
FYI... stay away from Guiness' Nitro IPA. Quite possibly the worst IPA on the market
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 11, 2016, 09:24:13 am
Quote from: bob72 on May 11, 2016, 09:07:03 am
FYI... stay away from Guiness' Nitro IPA. Quite possibly the worst IPA on the market

(https://www.liberal.ca/files/2013/02/bob_thanks-a-million.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2016, 12:34:57 pm
another beer fest for ya: America On Tap / DC on Tap

SATURDAY MAY 21, 2016
5PM ? 8PM
DC Convention Center

http://americaontap.com/washington-dc/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 11, 2016, 12:46:25 pm
Quote from: bob72 on May 11, 2016, 09:07:03 am
FYI... stay away from Guiness' Nitro IPA. Quite possibly the worst IPA on the market
meant to ask if anyone has tried the Sam Adam's Nitro offerings that are out?
(http://www.cspdailynews.com/sites/default/files/styles/300_x_225/public/main/articles/sam-adams-nitro-series.jpg?itok=pLDP-mOC)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 11, 2016, 12:49:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 10, 2016, 04:43:32 pm
indeed.  maybe the new guys don't feel like giving away beer - why would they, they're selling everything they make.
I totally agree, but other than this board....are people really talking about them
they get like zero press

They have been leaking some photos of them at Pizza Paridiso and Meridian Pint
methinks they will be on tap in DC soon?

    aslinbeerco (Instagram profile)   
Thanks to @MeridianPint and Jace for hosting @aslin_andrew and @aslinkai afternoon. #BigThingsComing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 11, 2016, 12:50:54 pm
I know this is a lot to ask...but I wish they'd say not only what Brewery was coming...but what they planned to bring
makes a big difference
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 11, 2016, 01:29:27 pm
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 11, 2016, 12:49:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 10, 2016, 04:43:32 pm
indeed.  maybe the new guys don't feel like giving away beer - why would they, they're selling everything they make.
I totally agree, but other than this board....are people really talking about them
they get like zero press

They have been leaking some photos of them at Pizza Paridiso and Meridian Pint
methinks they will be on tap in DC soon?

    aslinbeerco (Instagram profile)   
Thanks to @MeridianPint and Jace for hosting @aslin_andrew and @aslinkai afternoon. #BigThingsComing

any self proclaimed local beer dork knows about these guys... They're startin' to get some interest outside of the area too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2016, 02:03:15 pm
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 11, 2016, 12:49:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 10, 2016, 04:43:32 pm
indeed.  maybe the new guys don't feel like giving away beer - why would they, they're selling everything they make.
I totally agree, but other than this board....are people really talking about them
they get like zero press

BeerAdvocate average rating for Aslin: 4.28.  Ocelot: 4.09.  people are noticing.  and they sell outta beer - clearly someone is paying attention to them...


Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 11, 2016, 12:49:14 pm
They have been leaking some photos of them at Pizza Paridiso and Meridian Pint
methinks they will be on tap in DC soon?

    aslinbeerco (Instagram profile)  
Thanks to @MeridianPint and Jace for hosting @aslin_andrew and @aslinkai afternoon. #BigThingsComing

yes please!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 11, 2016, 02:08:18 pm
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 11, 2016, 12:49:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 10, 2016, 04:43:32 pm
indeed.  maybe the new guys don't feel like giving away beer - why would they, they're selling everything they make.
I totally agree, but other than this board....are people really talking about them
they get like zero press

They have been leaking some photos of them at Pizza Paridiso and Meridian Pint
methinks they will be on tap in DC soon?

    aslinbeerco (Instagram profile)   
Thanks to @MeridianPint and Jace for hosting @aslin_andrew and @aslinkai afternoon. #BigThingsComing

To echo Yada and Sweetcell:

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/metro-dc-brewery-discussion-thread.391379/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 11, 2016, 02:11:53 pm
We shared six half pours at Right Proper before the show Monday night. Five of the tart variety and one hoppy. All of them pretty damn good. Probably the best collection of beers I've had from them in any one visit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 11, 2016, 09:14:55 pm
This one sounds interesting...

About to mill some malt for a wild double oat IPA that will be barrel fermented, and listening to the most awesome Pissed Jeans !!!!! Shit is on point!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/pendruidbrewing/photos/a.1629129004022210.1073741829.1517347478533697/1730152843919825/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 12, 2016, 10:15:27 am
So a local new brewery wins gold (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/05/10/leesburgs-crooked-run-wins-gold-medal-at-world-beer-cup-plans-new-brewery/) at World beer cup

Has anyone been to Crooked Run yet

Leesburg is just such a hike :(



The wins by Lost Rhino and Crooked Run were part of a good night for the Old Dominion: Devils Backbone won gold medals for Schwartz Bier and Reilly's Red Ale, and Pale Fire Brewing took bronzes for its Salad Days Saison and Red Molly Irish Red Ale. Lickinghole Creek won a silver medal for Coconut Delight, its "Coconut Infused Rum Barrel Aged Belgian-Style Quadrupel Ale"; Hardywood took a bronze for Ruse, an imperial milk stout aged in red-wine barrels; and Norfolk's O'Connor Brewing won bronze for its O'Connor's Dry Irish Stout. Virginia won the fifth-most medals of any state

VA is becoming quite the beer state...just wish more of it was inside the beltway!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 12, 2016, 10:24:04 am
Help me please beer friends-

I've got a clamp down stainless steel growler.  I had it filled at Aslin and wasn't able to use for 8 or 9 days.  To my dismay, it was good but not anything like I had at their place in Herndon.  Do I typically need to drink it within 2 or 3 days to get the most out of it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 12, 2016, 10:26:46 am
Quote from: Bagley on May 12, 2016, 10:24:04 am
Help me please beer friends-

I've got a clamp down stainless steel growler.  I had it filled at Aslin and wasn't able to use for 8 or 9 days.  To my dismay, it was good but not anything like I had at their place in Herndon.  Do I typically need to drink it within 2 or 3 days to get the most out of it?

I don't have a fancy growler like that, but one of the guys at Aslin told me the quality is best if you drink it within 2-3 days of getting it filled.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 12, 2016, 10:55:37 am
Quote from: Bagley on May 12, 2016, 10:24:04 am
Help me please beer friends-

I've got a clamp down stainless steel growler.  I had it filled at Aslin and wasn't able to use for 8 or 9 days.  To my dismay, it was good but not anything like I had at their place in Herndon.  Do I typically need to drink it within 2 or 3 days to get the most out of it?

Based on my personal history of drinking their beer over the past few months, that liquid needs to either be drank on premise or pretty darn quickly after it being pour in a crowler/growler. I did drink a two week old crowler last week and it was delicious, however, a few weeks before that I drank maybe a 5 day old crowler and it was pretty bad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 12, 2016, 01:05:32 pm
oxygen is the enemy of beer.  beer in fermentors, brite tanks, kegs, bottles and cans are in an O2-free enviro.  when filling bottles, the bottle is purged with CO2 before being filled.  (aside: cans are very rarely flushed first - takes a super-high-end machine to do this - so the beer is exposed to O2 before being sealed.  but once sealed, no O2 can get in - vs. bottles that start with almost no O2 but some will eventually creep in because crown caps aren't perfect seals).

as soon as beer is exposed to oxygen, it starts to degrade.  during a growler fill the beer is exposed to a lot of O2 so the clock starts ticking as soon as it's filled.  2 or 3 days is the standard answer you'll get for "how soon should i drink it", but the real answer is "as soon as possible, ideally right away."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 13, 2016, 01:00:59 pm
thanks folks

another ?----

My local beer store's having a Maine Beer Co tap takeover as follows-
Maine Beer Peeper Pale Ale
Maine Beer Mo Pale Ale
Maine Beer Zoe Red IPA
Maine Beer King Titus Porter
Maine Beer Mean Old Tom Stout
Maine Beer Another One IPA


I've had the peeper, moe and zoe (and the Lunch which I love)

Any of the three others a must have?

BTW, they had the Kirsch Gose on tap yesterday 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 13, 2016, 02:03:50 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 13, 2016, 01:00:59 pm
thanks folks

another ?----

My local beer store's having a Maine Beer Co tap takeover as follows-
Maine Beer Peeper Pale Ale
Maine Beer Mo Pale Ale
Maine Beer Zoe Red IPA
Maine Beer King Titus Porter
Maine Beer Mean Old Tom Stout
Maine Beer Another One IPA


I've had the peeper, moe and zoe (and the Lunch which I love)

Any of the three others a must have?

BTW, they had the Kirsch Gose on tap yesterday 


Dinner is their only must have beer. I think it's brewery only.

Another One is very good. Some people like it better than Lunch, though I don't. The porter and stout....meh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on May 13, 2016, 03:05:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 13, 2016, 02:03:50 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 13, 2016, 01:00:59 pm
thanks folks

another ?----

My local beer store's having a Maine Beer Co tap takeover as follows-
Maine Beer Peeper Pale Ale
Maine Beer Mo Pale Ale
Maine Beer Zoe Red IPA
Maine Beer King Titus Porter
Maine Beer Mean Old Tom Stout
Maine Beer Another One IPA


I've had the peeper, moe and zoe (and the Lunch which I love)

Any of the three others a must have?

BTW, they had the Kirsch Gose on tap yesterday 


Dinner is their only must have beer. I think it's brewery only.

Another One is very good. Some people like it better than Lunch, though I don't. The porter and stout....meh.

I would also throw in A Tiny Beautiful Something, it's very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 16, 2016, 01:27:52 pm
hey sidetoast, bring back any of dat wakefield fruit, brah?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 16, 2016, 01:53:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 16, 2016, 01:27:52 pm
hey sidetoast, bring back any of dat wakefield fruit, brah?
dude was in the Space coast area...when to three different places and only thing I could find was  jai alai
but that was really it...slim pickins where I was
but did get to see some dolphins in the indian river
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on May 17, 2016, 08:57:21 am
Thoughts on world of beer? The rockville restaurant is opening soon and I'm curious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 17, 2016, 10:32:39 am
Quote from: medeski7 on May 17, 2016, 08:57:21 am
Thoughts on world of beer? The rockville restaurant is opening soon and I'm curious.

i'd check it out.  based on what i've read, WoB sounds like a chill sports bar with a great beer selection.  nice that it's so close to the movie theater, sounds like date night to me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 17, 2016, 01:04:06 pm
I was wondering the same about Mellow Mushroom, opening yesterday in Rockville.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 17, 2016, 01:22:54 pm
Finally -

As per Downtown crown wine and beer in Ghettosburg, MD----
 
Big News!! Mark the date!!


Founders Brewing Company is finally coming to Maryland!

We're kicking things off in a HUGE WAY!

Friday May 27th, 5-8pm..

The official Montgomery County
Launch Party & Tap Takeover!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on May 17, 2016, 01:26:55 pm
new brewery, coming to the old town walking mall, Winchester, va!!  this summer.  I think it will be called aleliscious, or something like that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 17, 2016, 01:56:15 pm
Kind of had a different beer in mind tonight to pair with what I'm cooking, but realized this would be the perfect beer to serve tonight to the person I was married to 13 years ago today...might have to drink more than six ounces of beer on a Tues.

(http://drinkallthebeers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/DSCF1922.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 17, 2016, 01:59:03 pm
Happy Anniversary Space!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 17, 2016, 02:19:47 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 17, 2016, 01:59:03 pm
Happy Anniversary Space!
yes...that woman must have a heart of gold
congrats
fitting to find a beer perfect for the ocasion
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 17, 2016, 02:53:34 pm
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 17, 2016, 02:19:47 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 17, 2016, 01:59:03 pm
Happy Anniversary Space!
yes...that woman must have a heart of gold
congrats
fitting to find a beer perfect for the ocasion

Possible proof that there's somebody in the world for everybody...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 17, 2016, 03:34:09 pm
WoB, mellow mushroom, downtown crown... has craft beer become so mainstream that even rockville is developing a scene?!?  all welcome new for me!

Quote from: ja,ded on May 17, 2016, 01:04:06 pm
I was wondering the same about Mellow Mushroom, opening yesterday in Rockville.

MM strikes me as the Mickey-D's of craft beer: bright colors, all plastic, chintzy (http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/Web-2016/Mellow-Mushroom-Rockville-Hours-Menu-Story-Location/), very family friendly, loud.  i look forward to taking my little tykes there some day for 'za and a brew (for me), but doesn't strike me as a place that i would hang out at on my own or with buddies - unless maybe they had something amazing on tap, but MM never posts their draft list online which is a big minus for me.  sounds like they had a few issues (https://www.facebook.com/mellowrockville/reviews/) on opening day.  i'll give the place a try but expectations are low.

Quote from: Bagley on May 17, 2016, 01:22:54 pm
Finally -

As per Downtown crown wine and beer in Ghettosburg, MD----
 
Big News!! Mark the date!!

Founders Brewing Company is finally coming to Maryland!

We're kicking things off in a HUGE WAY!

Friday May 27th, 5-8pm..

The official Montgomery County Launch Party & Tap Takeover!

so there.

(and LOL @ "Ghettosburg")
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 17, 2016, 03:41:59 pm
I had lunch at Full On the other day.  Good food, decent beer list for MoCo.  Not sure what the evening vibe is...

(https://scontent.fash1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12814008_927180707397444_4660807791451702720_n.jpg?oh=8e17b5dca319bf93f2a8c6b6dcb75ded&oe=57D30FFA)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 17, 2016, 04:23:11 pm
Quote from: ja,ded on May 17, 2016, 03:41:59 pm
I had lunch at Full On the other day.  Good food, decent beer list for MoCo.  Not sure what the evening vibe is...

we've stopped in there a few times, we live down Norbeck (towards R'ville).  love the sandwiches.  wish they had more than 4 taps, but at least they always have 4 good choices.  never been there at night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 17, 2016, 06:02:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 17, 2016, 04:23:11 pm
never been there at night.

(https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/X1oynWj2ivNO64u6IV-S2Cd6X0A=/1000x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6497803/JT_ooh.0.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 18, 2016, 08:53:46 am
The Veil - Master Shredder

Have enjoyed a few cans of this over past couple of weeks. What a delicious beverage.

Light, tropical, lil' juicy... and only 5.5%. I also hope to get to this brewery by 2019.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 08:56:26 am
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2016, 08:53:46 am
The Veil - Master Shredder

Have enjoyed a few cans of this over past couple of weeks. What a delicious beverage.

Light, tropical, lil' juicy... and only 5.5%. I also hope to get to this brewery by 2019.

Dude, it's in Richmond. That's an easy day trip. Take the family to Lewis Ginter, and stop at the Veil afterwards.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 08:58:26 am
This went extremely well with my creamy salmon pasta last night. Of course, it was the 2015 bottle for us.

(http://theaposition.com/tombedell/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2013/12/Dupont-albv.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 18, 2016, 09:03:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 08:56:26 am
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2016, 08:53:46 am
The Veil - Master Shredder

Have enjoyed a few cans of this over past couple of weeks. What a delicious beverage.

Light, tropical, lil' juicy... and only 5.5%. I also hope to get to this brewery by 2019.

Dude, it's in Richmond. That's an easy day trip. Take the family to Lewis Ginter, and stop at the Veil afterwards.

We typically don't plan our activities around brewery visits, but I will keep this in my back pocket!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 09:04:15 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 17, 2016, 03:34:09 pm
WoB, mellow mushroom, downtown crown... has craft beer become so mainstream that even rockville is developing a scene?!?  all welcome new for me!

Quote from: ja,ded on May 17, 2016, 01:04:06 pm
I was wondering the same about Mellow Mushroom, opening yesterday in Rockville.

MM strikes me as the Mickey-D's of craft beer: bright colors, all plastic, chintzy (http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/Web-2016/Mellow-Mushroom-Rockville-Hours-Menu-Story-Location/), very family friendly, loud.  i look forward to taking my little tykes there some day for 'za and a brew (for me), but doesn't strike me as a place that i would hang out at on my own or with buddies - unless maybe they had something amazing on tap, but MM never posts their draft list online which is a big minus for me.  sounds like they had a few issues (https://www.facebook.com/mellowrockville/reviews/) on opening day.  i'll give the place a try but expectations are low.

Quote from: Bagley on May 17, 2016, 01:22:54 pm
Finally -

As per Downtown crown wine and beer in Ghettosburg, MD----
 
Big News!! Mark the date!!

Founders Brewing Company is finally coming to Maryland!

We're kicking things off in a HUGE WAY!

Friday May 27th, 5-8pm..

The official Montgomery County Launch Party & Tap Takeover!

so there.

(and LOL @ "Ghettosburg")

I *wish* we had a Mellow Mushroom around the corner from us. It was always our after-race place after running the Charlottesville Marathon, back in the day. Great prices on pitchers of craft beer (I remember Founders Centennial and Oskar Blues Gubna)...so nothing special but always many solid choices...and some interesting pizzas...

Instead, we have a Yards at the newly revamped mall (right next to Dave and Busters!), and a totally dismal Ledo's Pizza (that serves craft beer but it's so bleak that it's best to do takeout, when your kid is insisting on Ledo's.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 09:06:10 am
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2016, 09:03:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 08:56:26 am
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2016, 08:53:46 am
The Veil - Master Shredder

Have enjoyed a few cans of this over past couple of weeks. What a delicious beverage.

Light, tropical, lil' juicy... and only 5.5%. I also hope to get to this brewery by 2019.

Dude, it's in Richmond. That's an easy day trip. Take the family to Lewis Ginter, and stop at the Veil afterwards.

We typically don't plan our activities around brewery visits, but I will keep this in my back pocket!

Well you're planning your visit around Lewis Ginter,  the VMFA, and Maymont. If you just happen to stumble across a great brewery, you kind of have to sto, don't you?  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 18, 2016, 12:46:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2016, 08:53:46 am
The Veil - Master Shredder

Have enjoyed a few cans of this over past couple of weeks. What a delicious beverage.

Light, tropical, lil' juicy... and only 5.5%. I also hope to get to this brewery by 2019.

Broz Day Off their session IPA (4.8%) may be the best session IPA i have ever tasted
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 12:56:48 pm
Won't try to copy and paste the whole list here, but lots of Savor related events starting to roll in. See page two of this thread.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/savor-dc-2016.379973/page-2#post-4772480

Still say the side events are better than the main event, though admittedly I've never been to the main event.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 01:19:34 pm
Quote from: brennser on May 18, 2016, 12:46:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2016, 08:53:46 am
The Veil - Master Shredder

Have enjoyed a few cans of this over past couple of weeks. What a delicious beverage.

Light, tropical, lil' juicy... and only 5.5%. I also hope to get to this brewery by 2019.

Broz Day Off their session IPA (4.8%) may be the best session IPA i have ever tasted

Can a 5.7% IPA beer considered a session IPA? If so, my vote for favorite session IPA is Aslin's Orange Starfish...my favorite Aslin beer so far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 18, 2016, 02:55:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 01:19:34 pm
Quote from: brennser on May 18, 2016, 12:46:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2016, 08:53:46 am
The Veil - Master Shredder

Have enjoyed a few cans of this over past couple of weeks. What a delicious beverage.

Light, tropical, lil' juicy... and only 5.5%. I also hope to get to this brewery by 2019.

Broz Day Off their session IPA (4.8%) may be the best session IPA i have ever tasted

Can a 5.7% IPA beer considered a session IPA? If so, my vote for favorite session IPA is Aslin's Orange Starfish...my favorite Aslin beer so far.

Technically.... no.

In other news.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/business/5583420-181/russian-river-brewing-co-near?artslide=0

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 11:40:10 am
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2016, 02:55:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2016, 01:19:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 18, 2016, 08:53:46 am
Broz Day Off their session IPA (4.8%) may be the best session IPA i have ever tasted

Can a 5.7% IPA beer considered a session IPA?

Technically.... no.

yeah, by most sources 5.7% is no longer a session beer.  the highest limit i've seen is 5%, some want session beers to start even lower 4.5 or even 4).

also, per the BJCP (http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style14.php#1b), american IPAs start at 5.5%, so 5.7% is comfortably within the limits of a normal IPA. 

admittedly if you're used to drinking 8+% monsters, 5.7% will seem session-like ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 25, 2016, 12:46:35 pm
My wife was in a Manhattan bar Monday night drinking beers by Hill Farmstead, Almanac, and Modern Times, while I was at home with my Waldo in my hand.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on May 25, 2016, 12:59:37 pm
Ballast Point opening brewery near Roanoke.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/local/botetourt_county/ballast-point-brewing-announces-plans-for-brewery-in-botetourt-s/article_ef293877-cdb3-5572-813c-e57b3022bdce.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:01:23 pm
i'm getting amped up for my annual beercation known as HomebrewCon (http://ow.ly/gdVH3005wi9), AKA the National Homebrewers Conference, which will be in Baltimore in 2 weeks time.  3 days of seminars, shwag from vendors, catching up with friends, and beer beer beer.  they've just announced (http://www.homebrewcon.org/events/craft-beer-kickoff-party/participating-breweries/) the pro breweries and clubs that will be pouring throughout the event (yes, beer for breakfast if you want it).  a lot of smaller local breweries that i haven't had a chance to try yet will be pouring so looking forward to that.  it's always a blast... last year in san diego, the hippies from Lagunitas were vaporizing hops and handing out baggies filled with hop smoke.  the experience of taking a huff and then drinking a non-hoppy beer was amazing (drinking a hoppy beer was a bit much...). 

"The name of the game here is beer.  There's more of it, in greater variety, than you'll find anywhere in the world.  That's a bold statement, but I challenge anyone out there to prove me wrong (http://www.beer-simple.com/brewing/2016/4/18/surviving-and-thriving-at-the-national-homebrewers-conference)."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 25, 2016, 01:03:08 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on May 25, 2016, 12:59:37 pm
Ballast Point opening brewery near Roanoke.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/local/botetourt_county/ballast-point-brewing-announces-plans-for-brewery-in-botetourt-s/article_ef293877-cdb3-5572-813c-e57b3022bdce.html


So VA (Green Flash, Stone, Deschutes, Ballast Point) is beating NC (Sierra Nevada, Oskar Blues, New Belgium) for second brewery locations. Though if you count Stone's brewery in Germany, Richmond will be their third location.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 25, 2016, 01:05:44 pm
Did Founders stop producing their Double Trouble?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:06:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 25, 2016, 12:46:35 pm
My wife was in Manhattan (...)  while I was at home with my Waldo in my hand.

you call yours waldo, huh?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 25, 2016, 01:21:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:06:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 25, 2016, 12:46:35 pm
My wife was in Manhattan (...)  while I was at home with my Waldo in my hand.

you call yours waldo, huh?

big, bold, and tasty
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:25:09 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 25, 2016, 01:05:44 pm
Did Founders stop producing their Double Trouble?

it's not being made this year, at least: http://foundersbrewing.com/availability-calendar/

maybe next year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 25, 2016, 01:35:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:25:09 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 25, 2016, 01:05:44 pm
Did Founders stop producing their Double Trouble?

it's not being made this year, at least: http://foundersbrewing.com/availability-calendar/

maybe next year?

I actually saw the 2015 version on the floor at Whole Foods Fair Lakes until a couple months ago. I was wondering if they should have been marketing it as a barleywine at that point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 25, 2016, 01:37:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:25:09 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 25, 2016, 01:05:44 pm
Did Founders stop producing their Double Trouble?

it's not being made this year, at least: http://foundersbrewing.com/availability-calendar/

maybe next year?


That's disappointing.  Don't see an equivalent on that list.......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 25, 2016, 01:50:12 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 25, 2016, 01:37:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:25:09 pm
Quote from: Bagley on May 25, 2016, 01:05:44 pm
Did Founders stop producing their Double Trouble?

it's not being made this year, at least: http://foundersbrewing.com/availability-calendar/

maybe next year?


That's disappointing.  Don't see an equivalent on that list.......

It's not the same style, but the Sumatra Imperial Brown that's out now is every bit as good. Currently the #1 brown ale on Beer Advocate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 25, 2016, 01:58:58 pm
My daughter, in her mom's absence, begged me to go to happy hour yesterday. Who am I to refuse? We tried these beers, reviews are my daughter's:

Oxbow Loretta ( grisette from ME): "Too plain AND too bitter." (Is that even possible?)
Birrificio Del Ducato Beersel Mattina  (lambic/saison hybrid from Italy) "This one is very good."
Panil Barriquee' (Flanders Red Ale from Italy) "This one is very good."

Victory Brett Pils (pilsner with brett from PA, only had a taste) "That one is fine."

So verdict: She likes sours from Italy. She'll enjoy going there when she's 10 when we cash in our airline miles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 25, 2016, 02:49:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:01:23 pm
i'm getting amped up for my annual beercation known as HomebrewCon (http://ow.ly/gdVH3005wi9), AKA the National Homebrewers Conference,
I'm really bummed that I can't do this (this year)
Is the mid Atlantic spot a rarity?
but if it is I'll be even sadder
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 03:11:20 pm
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 25, 2016, 02:49:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:01:23 pm
i'm getting amped up for my annual beercation known as HomebrewCon (http://ow.ly/gdVH3005wi9), AKA the National Homebrewers Conference,
I'm really bummed that I can't do this (this year)
Is the mid Atlantic spot a rarity?
but if it is I'll be even sadder

the AHA has been alternating between east, midwest/central, and west.  so the next east coast NHC should be in 2019.  east can mean anywhere along the coast (and some ways inland, palces like pittsburgh and atlanta are considered "east").  in 2013 the conference was in philly, so 2019 could be nearby again (my money is on one of the carolinas) or it could be in florida or maine...

NHC locations are announced one year in advance, at that year's NHC.  in baltimore we're learn where the 2017 one will be.  so we won't know where the 2019 edition is until the 2018 west coast conference.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 25, 2016, 03:14:23 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 03:11:20 pm
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 25, 2016, 02:49:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:01:23 pm
i'm getting amped up for my annual beercation known as HomebrewCon (http://ow.ly/gdVH3005wi9), AKA the National Homebrewers Conference,
I'm really bummed that I can't do this (this year)
Is the mid Atlantic spot a rarity?
but if it is I'll be even sadder

the AHA has been alternating between east, midwest/central, and west.  so the next east coast NHC should be in 2019.  east can mean anywhere along the coast (and some ways inland, palces like pittsburgh and atlanta are considered "east").  in 2013 the conference was in philly, so 2019 could be nearby again (my money is on one of the carolinas) or it could be in florida or maine...

NHC locations are announced one year in advance, at that year's NHC.  in baltimore we're learn where the 2017 one will be.  so we won't know where the 2019 edition is until the 2018 west coast conference.
they don't have single day passes either?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 04:46:09 pm
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 25, 2016, 03:14:23 pm
they don't have single day passes either?

never heard of them selling any before, so i fear the answer is nope.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 25, 2016, 04:48:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 04:46:09 pm
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 25, 2016, 03:14:23 pm
they don't have single day passes either?

never heard of them selling any before, so i fear the answer is nope.
makes sense...but worth asking
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 25, 2016, 05:24:44 pm
I think this was posted by space
but the savor churchkey events  (http://churchkeydc.com/events/?utm_source=Birch+%26+Barley+%2B+ChurchKey&utm_campaign=b16e093216-BBCKjanuary2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_68a4d5fc70-b16e093216-316665409&mc_cid=b16e093216&mc_eid=15dea36213)look nice

wicked weed's on tap 6/2
Never heard of their TBD offering...but they've got it on 12 taps  ;D

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 26, 2016, 10:25:39 am
Anybody been to Selin's Grove Brewpub in PA and have a review? Planning on hitting it for dinner as we drive up to the Southern Tier (the region, not the brewery) for the weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 26, 2016, 10:28:00 am
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 25, 2016, 05:24:44 pm
I think this was posted by space
but the savor churchkey events  (http://churchkeydc.com/events/?utm_source=Birch+%26+Barley+%2B+ChurchKey&utm_campaign=b16e093216-BBCKjanuary2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_68a4d5fc70-b16e093216-316665409&mc_cid=b16e093216&mc_eid=15dea36213)look nice

wicked weed's on tap 6/2
Never heard of their TBD offering...but they've got it on 12 taps  ;D



I'll probably be there Friday for the Maine beers. And maybe Wednesday for a quick hit of Barrel Aged Darkness right when they open, before i have to dash home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 26, 2016, 11:54:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 26, 2016, 10:25:39 am
drive up to the Southern Tier (the region, not the brewery) for the weekend.
the brewery is pretty sweet, but if you don't like the beers...then probably not worth it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 26, 2016, 01:34:41 pm
Quote from: Sidetoast |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 👻 👻 👻 👻 on May 26, 2016, 11:54:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 26, 2016, 10:25:39 am
drive up to the Southern Tier (the region, not the brewery) for the weekend.
the brewery is pretty sweet, but if you don't like the beers...then probably not worth it

It's an extra 3.5 hours from where I'm going, so won't be making it there. My brother went to a festival there recently and gave good reviews. The Choklat is their contribution to my current beer collection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 26, 2016, 01:37:19 pm
Speaking of pink beers, had a bottle of this last week.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ka2rs-DV_MM/maxresdefault.jpg)

It was definitely a cut above the Kirsch Gose, but I'm not sure its $14 retail price for 12 ounce bottle was the best deal ever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 26, 2016, 01:52:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 26, 2016, 10:25:39 am
Anybody been to Selin's Grove Brewpub in PA and have a review? Planning on hitting it for dinner as we drive up to the Southern Tier (the region, not the brewery) for the weekend.


Hit it a couple years ago.  I seem to remember their APA hitting the spot.  Food was very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 27, 2016, 08:55:29 am
ohh....aslin on tap in Falls church!

Dominion Wine and Beer
Welcoming one of Northern Virginia's hottest and fastest growing breweries, Aslin Beer Company.  Don't miss this opportunity to try beers that rarely leave the brewery!

STELLAR PARALLAX
Aslin Beer Company
American Double / Imperial IPA 8.1% ABV
$11.99 / 32oz Growler
$21.99 / 64oz Growler
Virginia

SMALL TOWN IN ONTARIO
Aslin Beer Company
American IPA 6% ABV
$11.99 / 32oz Growler
$21.99 / 64oz Growler
Virginia

Limited Release!  Each customer must choose between one 32oz growler of each beer or one 64oz growler of one beer.  While supplies last.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on May 28, 2016, 05:11:15 am
I want to try that Bretta Rose but it was sold out everywhere near me. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 28, 2016, 10:15:26 am
http://www.baltimoremagazine.net/2016/5/24/national-home-brewers-conference-coming-to-baltimore-in-june?utm_source=Baltimore+magazine&utm_campaign=55bc3a73a7-The_Weekender_052816&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_88a38976ac-55bc3a73a7-408161857
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 31, 2016, 09:01:21 am
Quote from: Bagley on May 26, 2016, 01:52:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 26, 2016, 10:25:39 am
Anybody been to Selin's Grove Brewpub in PA and have a review? Planning on hitting it for dinner as we drive up to the Southern Tier (the region, not the brewery) for the weekend.


Hit it a couple years ago.  I seem to remember their APA hitting the spot.  Food was very good.

Their kriek was fantastic (#4 fruit beer in Beer Advocate, right behind the three New Glarus fruit beers) and the APA did indeed hit the spot. Atmosphere/ambience (in an old mansion) was great. Food was just average, but at least they had plenty of choices for vegetarians.

A couple of other (beer) highlights of my visit to the Finger Lakes region:

1. A visit to Abandon Brewing, arguably the best brewery in the region...Everything was very good to great. Brought home a growler of a dark sour...

2. Going to a beer store in Auburn, NY  when coincidentally they were having a tap takeover by Singlecut Beersmiths (hotshit brewery from Queens, NY). All four Singlecut beers i tried were fantastic. One cloudy DIPA was remiscent of and on the level of an Aslin beer.
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30452/221622/

 I thought it funny that I'm using a local brewery as a barometer of greatness....

Another standout was this sour:
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30452/217909/

...which was perhaps the best smelling beer I've ever had. You could literally smell it all around the table we were at.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on May 31, 2016, 12:35:11 pm
just found a few more dfh 120 minute, so I bought them.  I have 6 total now . . . no wait, I drank one already to taste this year's batch.

also got a growler of sierra Nevada six rights ipa, just to try it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on May 31, 2016, 11:23:39 pm
Cracked rhe growler.  Drank too much.  Not enough,  commas, to describe how drunk i am.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 01, 2016, 08:18:34 am
So is anybody hitting any of the Savor events or Savor itself? If so, any must drink beers on your list?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 01, 2016, 10:20:33 pm
So went out to eat recently and was all like "whoa....they have Kentucky bourbon barrel stout in bottle here'
until I had this
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XDzVQApIq8E/UW_3K-_gOFI/AAAAAAAAAtM/myVm2RoAVK8/s1600/KBBS2.jpg)

avoid...totally capitalized on the KBS craze and put out a pretty weak beer



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 02, 2016, 08:54:09 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 01, 2016, 08:18:34 am
So is anybody hitting any of the Savor events or Savor itself? If so, any must drink beers on your list?

I drank about 80% of the tap list at Meridian Pint last night and I'm feeling it today, lots of pretty great beers + cheap good food as well. I also had a couple Hardywood Beers at Lost and Found (foolery and hoplar pineapple IPA).

Highlights at MP were:

Parish - Ghost in the Machine
Parish - Coffee Milk Stout
Melvin - 2x4
Wicked Weed - Marina, Amorous, Reccurant Sour Red

I will be at Savor, but most likely no more events.

Yes, Sideburnt, that's a turrible beer up there ^^^.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 02, 2016, 09:12:38 am
I opted for Brookland Pint yesterday. Easy access from work, early opening, and great taplist. Even said hi to Brennser as he was finishing up.

I had samples of five stouts, all very good. In order of preference:

Founders KBS
4 Hands Madagascar
Lagunitas High-Westified
Perennial Sump
Victory Java Cask

I washed them down with a sample of Ocelot Impression, one of the best Ocelot beers I've had.

Tonight it's Surly for dinner at Smoke and Barrel. Tomorrow it's a Melvin 2x4 lunch (only one serving, I swear) at BP, and then maybe Fremont at S&B and/or Maine beers at CK after work.

And then I go on a diet. Or at least stick to drinking beers that I have at home.


Would love to try that Ghost in the Machine, but hek you can't have everything in life.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 02, 2016, 09:20:21 am
Quote from: Yada on June 02, 2016, 08:54:09 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 01, 2016, 08:18:34 am
So is anybody hitting any of the Savor events or Savor itself? If so, any must drink beers on your list?

I drank about 80% of the tap list at Meridian Pint last night and I'm feeling it today, lots of pretty great beers + cheap good food as well. I also had a couple Hardywood Beers at Lost and Found (foolery and hoplar pineapple IPA).

Highlights at MP were:

Parish - Ghost in the Machine
Parish - Coffee Milk Stout
Melvin - 2x4
Wicked Weed - Marina, Amorous, Reccurant Sour Red

I will be at Savor, but most likely no more events.

Yes, Sideburnt, that's a turrible beer up there ^^^.

How do the 2x4 and the Ghost in the Machine compare?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 02, 2016, 09:33:58 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 02, 2016, 09:20:21 am
Quote from: Yada on June 02, 2016, 08:54:09 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 01, 2016, 08:18:34 am
So is anybody hitting any of the Savor events or Savor itself? If so, any must drink beers on your list?

I drank about 80% of the tap list at Meridian Pint last night and I'm feeling it today, lots of pretty great beers + cheap good food as well. I also had a couple Hardywood Beers at Lost and Found (foolery and hoplar pineapple IPA).

Highlights at MP were:

Parish - Ghost in the Machine
Parish - Coffee Milk Stout
Melvin - 2x4
Wicked Weed - Marina, Amorous, Reccurant Sour Red

I will be at Savor, but most likely no more events.

Yes, Sideburnt, that's a turrible beer up there ^^^.

How do the 2x4 and the Ghost in the Machine compare?

Different styles of ipas, but both tasty... Ghost is the hazy style of IPA that all the kids love these days, but had a bit of a bitter finish. I preferred the Ghost of the 2x4 by a hair.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 03, 2016, 08:29:52 am
Five tasters of Surly beers last night (Darkness, Smoke, Cacao Bender, Todd the Axman, Pentagram). All good. Still I think their beer "Overrated" best describes the brewery.

And the service at Smoke and Barrel, which is usually good, was miserably bad (in spite of it not being too crowded).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2016, 01:49:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 03, 2016, 08:29:52 am
Five tasters of Surly beers last night (Darkness, Smoke, Cacao Bender, Todd the Axman, Pentagram). All good. Still I think their beer "Overrated" best describes the brewery.

And the service at Smoke and Barrel, which is usually good, was miserably bad (in spite of it not being too crowded).

I agree... Other than Abrasive, overrated is a pretty good description of most of their beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2016, 02:50:55 pm
did i mention the case of Yuengling is up to 17.99 at BJs?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 03, 2016, 02:58:24 pm
Quote from: Hutch on June 03, 2016, 02:50:55 pm
did i mention the case of Yuengling is up to 17.99 at BJs?

I saw they had a case of Miller Lite at Giant for $11.99 and I thought if you.

I also thought of the girl I dated right before I met my wife who was pretty hot though she shaved her pussy and I didn't like that...she drank Miller Lite. All in all, probably good that we didn't last.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2016, 03:06:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 03, 2016, 02:58:24 pm
Quote from: Hutch on June 03, 2016, 02:50:55 pm
did i mention the case of Yuengling is up to 17.99 at BJs?

I saw they had a case of Miller Lite at Giant for $11.99 and I thought if you.

I also thought of the girl I dated right before I met my wife who was pretty hot though she shaved her pussy and I didn't like that...she drank Miller Lite. All in all, probably good that we didn't last.

I dont' really like Mille Lite.. i did go through a Miller High Life (champagne of beers!) phase a long time ago though...

oh and TMI
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on June 03, 2016, 03:20:36 pm
Rockville world o beer draft list---

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/IMG_2425.jpg


meh
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2016, 04:42:47 pm
Quote from: Hutch on June 03, 2016, 03:06:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 03, 2016, 02:58:24 pm
Quote from: Hutch on June 03, 2016, 02:50:55 pm
did i mention the case of Yuengling is up to 17.99 at BJs?

I saw they had a case of Miller Lite at Giant for $11.99 and I thought if you.

I also thought of the girl I dated right before I met my wife who was pretty hot though she shaved her pussy and I didn't like that...she drank Miller Lite. All in all, probably good that we didn't last.

I dont' really like Mille Lite.. i did go through a Miller High Life (champagne of beers!) phase a long time ago though...

oh and TMI

dat jungle bush doh
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 04, 2016, 10:42:24 pm
Tysons Bier garden opened this weekend
beer list is not too bad
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13335714_1616013542042745_4080829734379655512_n.jpg?oh=5c42627449073aabf725e2f6eb5ca2dc&oe=57C741D8)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13315315_1616013245376108_3471636694498495195_n.jpg?oh=22c3bc9615d164ea1b64003316ffefa3&oe=57D890AD)(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13319745_1616013098709456_6246872192773485581_n.jpg?oh=4d451549230a8534ec7c2ed2f9d95f7b&oe=580E26F5)

picked up a tasty Stone Mixed 12 pack
Sublimely Self-righteous black ipa
citrusy wit
Ruination double IPA
IPA
bought it at freakin target! (said with a french accent) whilst getting packing tape
(http://www.stonebrewing.com/sites/default/files/q2_mixed12pack_3dweb.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 04, 2016, 10:56:20 pm
beer is self-righteous and witty now?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on June 06, 2016, 10:29:29 am
Aslin Champion of the Sun IPA is incredibly delicious. The Astro Zombie IPA was quite good too. That brewery is crushing it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 06, 2016, 02:39:26 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 17, 2016, 03:34:09 pm
Quote from: ja,ded on May 17, 2016, 01:04:06 pm
I was wondering the same about Mellow Mushroom, opening yesterday in Rockville.

MM strikes me as the Mickey-D's of craft beer: bright colors, all plastic, chintzy (http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/Web-2016/Mellow-Mushroom-Rockville-Hours-Menu-Story-Location/), very family friendly, loud.  i look forward to taking my little tykes there some day for 'za and a brew (for me), but doesn't strike me as a place that i would hang out at on my own or with buddies - unless maybe they had something amazing on tap, but MM never posts their draft list online which is a big minus for me. 

stuck my head in the Mellow Mushroom this afternoon... it's a step up from most pizza joints that only serve BMC, but nothing that would pull me in.  always having arrogant bastard on tap is nice, i guess.  i did have a better selection than Buffalo Wild Wings.

speaking of BWW, the MM has fenced off its outside tables in such a way that if you're in the central square, you have to walk all the way around to get to the front door... forcing you to walk in front of BWW to get there.  i'm not positive it's a good idea to be driving foot traffic to your competitors.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2016, 05:40:03 pm
Rockville... gross...one giant strip mall plus traffic..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 08, 2016, 10:15:01 am
i'm packing my bags, ditching the family and am off to baltimore for homebrewcon.  stoked.

most, if not all, of the beer bars in b'more are doing special events this week.  check out this from Max's (https://www.facebook.com/maxstaphouse/posts/10153913845819678).  dunno if i'll be able to make it, too much to do and drink on site to bother paying for stuff that takes a taxi/uber to get to...

HomebrewCon 2017: minneapolis, june 15-17.  conference + prince pilgrimage?  hummm...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 14, 2016, 02:29:13 pm
About 10 days overdue, but Savor continues to be hands down the best beer event I?ve ever attended (and I?ll argue that Savor is BETTER than the events leading up to it)!!!

Too many good beers to name, but my top ten in no particular order.   60% of the list are breweries I've never heard of (until leading up to Savor) and most likely would've never tasted had I not attended that event.

?   Barrel Aged Expedition Stout - Bells
?   Kriek - Two Roads Brewing
?   Savant Blanc - Perennial Artisan Ales
?   Ghost in the Machine - Parish Brewing
?   Friek - Odell Brewing Company
?   Ad Idem - Lost Abbey
?   Systema Natvræ - Devilwood & Apricot - D9 Brewing Company
?   Viking Fraoch -  D9 Brewing Company
?   One Off Banished Bretted Farmhouse ? Crux Fermentation Project (as good as any De Garde beer I?ve ever had)
?   Stavropol ? Confluence Brewing Company



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 14, 2016, 02:30:16 pm
  :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on June 15, 2016, 12:31:36 pm
bought a six pack singles of the following beers.  they were good, in this order:

1.  avery brewing (the demons of ale)  Samael's oak aged ale

2.  Lagunitas   Aunt Sally  (name attracted me for personal reasons, and almost certain affected me in my opinion that it is awesome and I loved it.)

3.  Victory   Hop Ranch  (not incredible but decent for a bottle and for Victory.  not a keeper or prize memory)

4.  Flying Dog  (Single Hop Series)   Ella  Imperial IPA  (this is my go to brewery for easy to drink and cheaper than super snooty offerings.  I liked this and was a nice add to the arsenal.)

5.  Flying Dog  dead rise old bay summer ale  (not good.  never again.)

6.  Sierra Nevada  Hoptimum 2016   (love this beer.  always will.  the, end)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 15, 2016, 01:45:26 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on June 15, 2016, 12:31:36 pm
5.  Flying Dog  dead rise old bay summer ale  (not good.  never again.)

i quite like dead rise.  it goes really well with food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 15, 2016, 02:42:02 pm
We had a small growler of Ocelot Wicked Garden DIPA on Saturday. So amazingly good.

Then a crowler of Aslin Mind the Hops with Peach+Vanilla on Sunday. One of the best beers I've ever tasted in my life. Made in the county I live in.

Then a can of  two week old Cigar City Jai Alai on Monday. Mind you, this is a beer I've loved in the past but the two locals were so, so, so much better that there seemed to bee no point in drinking this beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on June 15, 2016, 06:05:26 pm
I, also got stone enjoy by 07/04. Not, as good as 04/20, by a long shot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 16, 2016, 09:57:46 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on June 15, 2016, 06:05:26 pm
I, also got stone enjoy by 07/04. Not, as good as 04/20, by a long shot.

Pretty turrible beer, IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 16, 2016, 10:11:54 am
i was less than impressed by 07.04.16 as well.

my favorite of the series, by a long shot, was the unfiltered 02.14.16.  sooooooooo fruity.  they're bringing back an unfiltered version in august, can't wait.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 17, 2016, 11:49:36 am
peppermint victory at sea: not the train-wreck that it could be, but not great either.

in other news:

Zymurgy?s 2016 Best Beers in America Results
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/zymurgys-2016-best-beers-america-results/

insert typical comments about how beer is partially good/partially missed some important ones...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 17, 2016, 11:52:54 am
This The Veil thing is getting massively hyped in RVA. They put their cans on sale on Tuesdays at 4pm and people are lining up at noon every week and the entire thing is selling out by 6. It just can't possibly be that good to justify this behavior.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 17, 2016, 12:05:58 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on June 17, 2016, 11:52:54 am
This The Veil thing is getting massively hyped in RVA. They put their cans on sale on Tuesdays at 4pm and people are lining up at noon every week and the entire thing is selling out by 6. It just can't possibly be that good to justify this behavior.

I can vouch that is quite delicious, however, I do refuse to stand in lines for beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 17, 2016, 12:07:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 17, 2016, 11:49:36 am
peppermint victory at sea: not the train-wreck that it could be, but not great either.

in other news:

Zymurgy?s 2016 Best Beers in America Results
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/zymurgys-2016-best-beers-america-results/

insert typical comments about how beer is partially good/partially missed some important ones...

Quite deceiving as basically the entire top 20 other than a few is easily attainable all over the country. I'm sure that impacts the ratings.

Of that top 20, these are the beers I'd buy if I had easy access to them at all times.

1.   Russian River Pliny the Elder
3.   The Alchemist Heady Topper
6.   Founders Breakfast Stout
7.   Three Floyds Zombie Dust
9.   Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Stout
T10.   Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA
12.   Founders KBS (Kentucky Breakfast Stout)
14.   Lawson?s Finest Liquids Sip of Sunshine
18.   Cigar City Jai Alai IPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 17, 2016, 12:08:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 17, 2016, 12:05:58 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on June 17, 2016, 11:52:54 am
This The Veil thing is getting massively hyped in RVA. They put their cans on sale on Tuesdays at 4pm and people are lining up at noon every week and the entire thing is selling out by 6. It just can't possibly be that good to justify this behavior.

I can vouch that is quite delicious, however, I do refuse to stand in lines for beer.
I had one on draft and it was good but I also am not queuing to buy beer. Or most anything. I'm not a full-on "I never queue" guy like Smackie but something needs to be sufficiently amazing for me to lineup. Beer does not constitute.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 17, 2016, 12:30:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 17, 2016, 11:49:36 am
peppermint victory at sea: not the train-wreck that it could be, but not great either.

in other news:

Zymurgy?s 2016 Best Beers in America Results
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/zymurgys-2016-best-beers-america-results/

insert typical comments about how beer is partially good/partially missed some important ones...

How about what a boring list, I've had 48 out of 51?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 17, 2016, 12:31:16 pm
James Ford wins again, thanks to his thrifty nature.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/drink/ct-bourbon-county-beer-infection-food-0622-20160622-story.html

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 17, 2016, 12:31:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 17, 2016, 12:30:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 17, 2016, 11:49:36 am
peppermint victory at sea: not the train-wreck that it could be, but not great either.

in other news:

Zymurgy?s 2016 Best Beers in America Results
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/zymurgys-2016-best-beers-america-results/

insert typical comments about how beer is partially good/partially missed some important ones...


How about what a boring list, I've had 48 out of 51?

Agreed... Turrible. Now go look at that BA list for a solid top 20.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 17, 2016, 12:32:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 17, 2016, 12:31:16 pm
James Ford wins again, thanks to his thrifty nature.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/drink/ct-bourbon-county-beer-infection-food-0622-20160622-story.html


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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 17, 2016, 01:17:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 17, 2016, 12:30:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 17, 2016, 11:49:36 am
peppermint victory at sea: not the train-wreck that it could be, but not great either.

in other news:

Zymurgy?s 2016 Best Beers in America Results
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/zymurgys-2016-best-beers-america-results/

insert typical comments about how beer is partially good/partially missed some important ones...

How about what a boring list, I've had 48 out of 51?

yes indeed that would be a typical response :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on June 18, 2016, 06:24:58 am
Finally got my Rodenbach Alexander at Whole Foods on P street.  I got two and they had one left on the shelf last night.  I had actually stopped looking. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 20, 2016, 01:00:15 am
happy father's day to me!  some guys get ties, i get this...

(http://cdn.homebrewtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=359233&stc=1&d=1466398434)
 
had the blackberry farm classic saison with dinner, t'was really frikken excellent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 08:36:34 am
I had planned a Father's Day beer outing to Aslin following a morning hike of the Billy Goat Trail. But alas Aslin was closed again as they ran out of beer SAturday at 3. There were reports of 100 people being in line even before they opened. Likely many of them to get beer to trade to people around the country (rather than consume themselves), as Master of Karate is now tied for #43 on the Beer Advocate Top 250 (and likely to go higher as it gets more reviews). Instead, we split 32 ozs of an Ocelot saison from a growler and split a 16 oz Imperial Biscotte Break tallboy (never thought I'd see that beer in a tallboy).

Oh well. We did go to Manor Hill Brewing in Ellicott City on Saturday. Good beer, though not Aslin-level. The farm brewery atmosphere there was miles better than the suburban stripmall atmosphere of Aslin. The fact that you have to make a (free) two hour limit reservation for their limited to 50 people at a time tasting room made it a comfortably pleasant (albeit a little hot, no AC) experience.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 20, 2016, 08:46:07 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 08:36:34 am
I had planned a Father's Day beer outing to Aslin following a morning hike of the Billy Goat Trail. But alas Aslin was closed again as they ran out of beer SAturday at 3. There were reports of 100 people being in line even before they opened. Likely many of them to get beer to trade to people around the country (rather than consume themselves), as Master of Karate is now tied for #43 on the Beer Advocate Top 250 (and likely to go higher as it gets more reviews). Instead, we split 32 ozs of an Ocelot saison from a growler and split a 16 oz Imperial Biscotte Break tallboy (never thought I'd see that beer in a tallboy).

Oh well. We did go to Manor Hill Brewing in Ellicott City on Saturday. Good beer, though not Aslin-level. The farm brewery atmosphere there was miles better than the suburban stripmall atmosphere of Aslin. The fact that you have to make a (free) two hour limit reservation for their limited to 50 people at a time tasting room made it a comfortably pleasant (albeit a little hot, no AC) experience.

We're all screwed until production is upped dramatically at Aslin. The word is out, the beer bros are out, everyone wants it. Those reports are quite accurate. I've heard first hand accounts of multiple people that went and turned around as well as a few dudes that basically spent from 11am to 4pm to get in line, pre pay for beer, THEN wait an additional two hours to get the beer. Sounds awful.

One crowler machine plus the laws that do not allow for pre-filling of growlers will be the death of that place for me until a new system is put in place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 20, 2016, 08:54:02 am
I think unfortunately word may also be out about Yuengling.. they were out Friday...I've heard reports of "beer bros" waiting outside BJs from six am.....we ended up splitting a miller lite (4 oz each)....we may be screwed until Yuengling ups production significantly... I only expect it to get worse as they have cracked the top 10,000 in Beer advocate..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 20, 2016, 08:59:14 am
Quote from: Donald Trump on June 20, 2016, 08:54:02 am
I think unfortunately word may also be out about Yuengling.. they were out Friday...I've heard reports of "beer bros" waiting outside BJs from six am.....we ended up splitting a miller lite (4 oz each)....we may be screwed until Yuengling ups production significantly... I only expect it to get worse as they have cracked the top 10,000 in Beer advocate..

Just wait until the spider pooh hits the purchasers, that could sway them real quick back to miller lite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 09:09:02 am
Quote from: Donald Trump on June 20, 2016, 08:54:02 am
I think unfortunately word may also be out about Yuengling.. they were out Friday...I've heard reports of "beer bros" waiting outside BJs from six am.....we ended up splitting a miller lite (4 oz each)....we may be screwed until Yuengling ups production significantly... I only expect it to get worse as they have cracked the top 10,000 in Beer advocate..

For a minute there, I thought you used the terms "beer bros" and "bj's" in the same sentence and I came to the conclusion that you must have drank way too much at 9am on a Monday to ever use those two terms in the same sentence. But alas, that's not what you meant.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 20, 2016, 09:29:11 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 08:36:34 am
I had planned a Father's Day beer outing to Aslin following a morning hike of the Billy Goat Trail. But alas Aslin was closed again as they ran out of beer SAturday at 3. There were reports of 100 people being in line even before they opened. Likely many of them to get beer to trade to people around the country (rather than consume themselves), as Master of Karate is now tied for #43 on the Beer Advocate Top 250 (and likely to go higher as it gets more reviews).

I arrived at Aslin at 10:45 on Saturday and it took 90 minutes to get in and order. Another 2.5 hours to collect the growlers I'd ordered (thankfully we had brought a picnic and could order beers to drink). There was a little anxiety as they already stopped pouring 3 of the 4 beers they had available.

My first trip there and the guy we ordered from admitted they were overwhelmed. That being said the beers are legit. Master of Karate is spectacular. But I doubt I'll go back on a weekend until their expansion is completed.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 12:31:25 pm
Well shit, if all of you guys are going to stop going to Aslin, I may just have to go back, as there will now be beer for me.  ;)

Actually, Thursdays post-rush hour might work out for me better than Saturday afternoons anyway. So jealous of my co-worker who lives less than 10 minutes away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 20, 2016, 12:50:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 12:31:25 pm
Well shit, if all of you guys are going to stop going to Aslin, I may just have to go back, as there will now be beer for me.  ;)

Actually, Thursdays post-rush hour might work out for me better than Saturday afternoons anyway. So jealous of my co-worker who lives less than 10 minutes away.

I don't think his proxmity would really help him on a Saturday release. You still need to show up two hours in advance with all of the neckbeards.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 12:59:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 20, 2016, 12:50:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 12:31:25 pm
Well shit, if all of you guys are going to stop going to Aslin, I may just have to go back, as there will now be beer for me.  ;)

Actually, Thursdays post-rush hour might work out for me better than Saturday afternoons anyway. So jealous of my co-worker who lives less than 10 minutes away.

I don't think his proxmity would really help him on a Saturday release. You still need to show up two hours in advance with all of the neckbeards.

True, but it would help him on non-Saturday releases...and in general.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 20, 2016, 05:15:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 12:59:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 20, 2016, 12:50:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 12:31:25 pm
Well shit, if all of you guys are going to stop going to Aslin, I may just have to go back, as there will now be beer for me.  ;)

Actually, Thursdays post-rush hour might work out for me better than Saturday afternoons anyway. So jealous of my co-worker who lives less than 10 minutes away.

I don't think his proxmity would really help him on a Saturday release. You still need to show up two hours in advance with all of the neckbeards.

True, but it would help him on non-Saturday releases...and in general.

We will see how they manage this in the future.

Also.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/snallygaster-dcs-largest-beer-festival-tickets-25933152758?utm_campaign=9dc806a1f6-Snallygaster_2015_Ticket_Announcement&utm_term=0_2d4a7f3f34-9dc806a1f6-317435973&utm_source=Snallygaster&utm_medium=email&mc_eid=96a82da5ab&mc_cid=9dc806a1f6
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 09:39:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 20, 2016, 05:15:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 12:59:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 20, 2016, 12:50:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 20, 2016, 12:31:25 pm
Well shit, if all of you guys are going to stop going to Aslin, I may just have to go back, as there will now be beer for me.  ;)

Actually, Thursdays post-rush hour might work out for me better than Saturday afternoons anyway. So jealous of my co-worker who lives less than 10 minutes away.

I don't think his proxmity would really help him on a Saturday release. You still need to show up two hours in advance with all of the neckbeards.

True, but it would help him on non-Saturday releases...and in general.

We will see how they manage this in the future.

Also.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/snallygaster-dcs-largest-beer-festival-tickets-25933152758?utm_campaign=9dc806a1f6-Snallygaster_2015_Ticket_Announcement&utm_term=0_2d4a7f3f34-9dc806a1f6-317435973&utm_source=Snallygaster&utm_medium=email&mc_eid=96a82da5ab&mc_cid=9dc806a1f6

Forecast calls for rain.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 21, 2016, 02:20:57 pm
Attended one of the more epiQ bottle shares of my life this weekend... whalez upon whalez with too many good beers.

Highlights included:

Cantillon - Saint Lamvinus
De Garde - Imperial Berry Bu, Impeiral Purple Raz Bu
Toppling Goliath - King Sue
Tree House - Bright and JJJuliusss*
Green Man Brewery - Snozzberry
Cycle Brewing - Rare Scoop (maybe the beer of the evening)
Trillium - Raspberry Soak

*not pictured

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 22, 2016, 04:59:11 pm
Space... watch your back brother.


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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 22, 2016, 06:02:53 pm
Vince Neil on the beer thread?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 23, 2016, 12:17:45 pm
Anyone going to the Double Orange Starfish release today? I bet Brennser will be there!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 23, 2016, 01:01:20 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 23, 2016, 12:17:45 pm
Anyone going to the Double Orange Starfish release today? I bet Brennser will be there!

Negative... I am trying to set up a meeting to end in Reston around 3pm either next Thursday or Friday... but the issue is then I get stuck in rush hour traffic driving home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 23, 2016, 03:15:20 pm
Yup... never going to aslin even on a weekday.

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on June 23, 2016, 03:41:56 pm
Maybe folks are fueling up for the Mayer & Co show tonight........
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 23, 2016, 03:42:59 pm
At least it isn't hot and sunny like it was on Saturday.  Count your blessings!

But, yeah, that ain't good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 23, 2016, 03:52:24 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 23, 2016, 03:42:59 pm
At least it isn't hot and sunny like it was on Saturday.  Count your blessings!

But, yeah, that ain't good.

True, but a two hour wait for beer whether it's gorgeous out or sweltering hot ain't worth it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 23, 2016, 04:22:00 pm
Perhaps. Then again, I used to sleep in  my car overnight to get concert tix.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 23, 2016, 05:06:02 pm
And crowlers are sold out on a Thursday!!! RIP SPACE.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 23, 2016, 05:16:56 pm
I am at The Veil now. Is there anything in particular anyone wants me to try/review/complain is not from MI?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on June 23, 2016, 05:37:46 pm
Anyone try the new england style IPA- Wicked Happy from Franklin's Brewery in Hyattsville, Md?   Pretty good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 24, 2016, 12:09:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 23, 2016, 12:17:45 pm
Anyone going to the Double Orange Starfish release today? I bet Brennser will be there!

Sorry to disappoint you but I was in Kansas City......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on June 26, 2016, 12:41:18 pm
Managed to get in to Aslin yesterday.  I had a window of time yesterday that happened right when the brewery crowd started to thin.  The beer was really good.  I'm not used to that super unfiltered IPA style.  The fact that the beer was born that day made a huge difference.  I got to try Small Town IPA, Hoppy Saison and Astro Zombie IPA.  Even manged to leave with 2 crowlers without a wait.  I'll count myself lucky.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 26, 2016, 02:04:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 23, 2016, 12:17:45 pm
Anyone going to the Double Orange Starfish release today? I bet Brennser will be there!
I was there! I enjoyed the orange double starfish and the astrowhatever. the starfish one didn't drink like an over 8% abv beer.

it was crowded but no line when I got there at 5:30
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2016, 06:25:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 23, 2016, 03:15:20 pm
Yup... never going to aslin even on a weekday.

I think this insanity will wear out
If I had a food truck, I'd be there
Although you'd have to get out of the truck to take the orders

I definitely going to do afternoon rides this summer, as going there when it opens is no longer a good option
seems like the sweet spot is between 3-5 pm to get there
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 26, 2016, 07:12:30 pm
If it's a beer in the Top 250, looks like Aslin will get crazy. If it's not, not so crazy. They also limited the crowler sales, or they probably would have been out of IPA for a thir straight Sunday.

Now drinking a small growler of Ocelot Two Lost Souls, purchased less than a mile from my house, and not missing Aslin at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 27, 2016, 10:25:32 am
Quote from: brennser on June 24, 2016, 12:09:21 pm
Sorry to disappoint you but I was in Kansas City......

drink anything noteworthy from Boulevard?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 27, 2016, 12:10:43 pm
After going to Vermont for my cousin's wedding this past weekend, I think I'd rather just move there than deal with an area of densely populated beer nerds and limited supply (at least until places like Aslin start meeting demand and canning, that is). Lined up for Heady at Winooski on Saturday - got there on the later side so was only able to procure two 4-packs but hey, guess what, they just throw in a four-pack of Sip as a consolation. I could have lined up earlier and got a case but I also have a newborn and having the opportunity to sleep in was something I couldn't pass up. This was actually the last weekend they received a full shipment of HT as Alchemist is cutting down their deliveries to all stores in anticipation of the brewery opening (where you will also be able to buy Focal!).

Then my brother and I drove over to Fiddlehead and bought some Mastermind. It's interesting to note that Mastermind runs $78 for 12oz while a case of Heady is $75 for 16oz. Not to get all James Fordy on you guys but that is a substantial difference. After dropping the beer off in our hotel room, we made our way to Waterbury for lunch at Prohibition Pig. Still had Bantam on tap so I had to get that - it is such a sneakingly good beer. The wedding itself was in Shelburne and looked over Lake Champlain - so picturesque, and featured a Ben and Jerry's ice cream cart for dessert! Great, great weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 27, 2016, 02:45:11 pm
i bought this IPA with a pig on the can... man i do not like it.... tastes too much like grapefruity... and too strong...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on June 28, 2016, 09:19:10 am
Quote from: hutch on June 27, 2016, 02:45:11 pm
i bought this IPA with a pig on the can... man i do not like it.... tastes too much like grapefruity... and too strong...

Porkslap Pale Ale? 

I tried Space Reaper.  I thought it was pretty good.  I didn't see it as anything mind blowing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 28, 2016, 09:37:29 am
Quote from: medeski7 on June 28, 2016, 09:19:10 am
Quote from: hutch on June 27, 2016, 02:45:11 pm
i bought this IPA with a pig on the can... man i do not like it.... tastes too much like grapefruity... and too strong...

Porkslap Pale Ale? 

I tried Space Reaper.  I thought it was pretty good.  I didn't see it as anything mind blowing.

I liked Space Reaper better when they called it Solar Abyss. The new name sounds too scifi/heavy metal/video game. Like it's a beer for dorks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 28, 2016, 10:23:36 am
Quote from: medeski7 on June 28, 2016, 09:19:10 am
Quote from: hutch on June 27, 2016, 02:45:11 pm
i bought this IPA with a pig on the can... man i do not like it.... tastes too much like grapefruity... and too strong...

Porkslap Pale Ale? 

I tried Space Reaper.  I thought it was pretty good.  I didn't see it as anything mind blowing.

its called the poor righteous ipa and is brewed by the jailbreak brewing company

i am sorry but i cannot endorse this product.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 28, 2016, 10:46:04 am
Quote from: hutch on June 27, 2016, 02:45:11 pm
i bought this IPA with a pig on the can... man i do not like it.... tastes too much like grapefruity... and too strong...

fair enough, but citrus is what most IPAs taste like these days and is a sought-after quality...

Quote from: Space Freely on June 28, 2016, 09:37:29 am
I liked Space Reaper better when they called it Solar Abyss. The new name sounds too scifi/heavy metal/video game. Like it's a beer for dorks.

you realize that we beer nerds are the definition of dorks?  so "space reaper" is on point for its core audience.

i was listening to an interview with a semi-famous brewer from CA (jeff bagby (http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2014/aug/15/oceanside-bagby-beer-brewery/)) and he admitted that he named all his IPAs to make fun of beer dorks, himself included: Nerd Herd, Dork Squad, Goof Troop, Boy Wonder, Dinkus... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 28, 2016, 11:02:17 am
Quote from: hutch on June 28, 2016, 10:23:36 am
Quote from: medeski7 on June 28, 2016, 09:19:10 am
Quote from: hutch on June 27, 2016, 02:45:11 pm
i bought this IPA with a pig on the can... man i do not like it.... tastes too much like grapefruity... and too strong...

Porkslap Pale Ale? 

I tried Space Reaper.  I thought it was pretty good.  I didn't see it as anything mind blowing.

its called the poor righteous ipa and is brewed by the jailbreak brewing company

i am sorry but i cannot endorse this product.

That's what you get for picking a beer whose name matches your personality.  ;)
I've sampled that beer and it's pretty average as far as IPA's go.
Their hefeweizen is very good. Try that. You won't get citrus flavors in that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 28, 2016, 11:07:41 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 28, 2016, 10:46:04 am

Quote from: Space Freely on June 28, 2016, 09:37:29 am
I liked Space Reaper better when they called it Solar Abyss. The new name sounds too scifi/heavy metal/video game. Like it's a beer for dorks.

you realize that we beer nerds are the definition of dorks?  so "space reaper" is on point for its core audience.

i was listening to an interview with a semi-famous brewer from CA (jeff bagby (http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2014/aug/15/oceanside-bagby-beer-brewery/)) and he admitted that he named all his IPAs to make fun of beer dorks, himself included: Nerd Herd, Dork Squad, Goof Troop, Boy Wonder, Dinkus... ;D

In all honesty, I stole that opinion from my opinionated wife. Gotta give credit where credit is due!

I just don't think DC Brau is cutting it anymore for me now that Aslin and Ocelot are in town.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 28, 2016, 11:14:18 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 28, 2016, 10:46:04 am
Quote from: hutch on June 27, 2016, 02:45:11 pm
i bought this IPA with a pig on the can... man i do not like it.... tastes too much like grapefruity... and too strong...

fair enough, but citrus is what most IPAs taste like these days and is a sought-after quality...

Quote from: Space Freely on June 28, 2016, 09:37:29 am
I liked Space Reaper better when they called it Solar Abyss. The new name sounds too scifi/heavy metal/video game. Like it's a beer for dorks.

you realize that we beer nerds are the definition of dorks?  so "space reaper" is on point for its core audience.

i was listening to an interview with a semi-famous brewer from CA (jeff bagby (http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2014/aug/15/oceanside-bagby-beer-brewery/)) and he admitted that he named all his IPAs to make fun of beer dorks, himself included: Nerd Herd, Dork Squad, Goof Troop, Boy Wonder, Dinkus... ;D


yeah...I tend to like IPAs but this one is too grapefruity.. i feel like I'm drinking a grapefruit with too much fizz!

I bought this because they were out of the DC Brau The Corruption at the Lost Dog PIzza when I picked up pizzas for our Copa America final party over at Grandpas Sunset apartment.......The Corruption is a good one...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on June 28, 2016, 11:35:10 am
I think Denizens is making great beer.  I love their mildly sour stuff.  Their IPA and Belgian ale seem pretty average, but their more uncommon styles are really good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 28, 2016, 12:21:45 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on June 28, 2016, 11:35:10 am
I think Denizens is making great beer.  I love their mildly sour stuff.  Their IPA and Belgian ale seem pretty average, but their more uncommon styles are really good.

I haven't been since they changed their menu to small plates (WTF), but back when they served BBQ it was a good place to set up shop with a child outdoors and their beer was above average.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 28, 2016, 12:25:10 pm
They're really hot or miss but the patio is dog friendly. That's very helpful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 28, 2016, 12:34:29 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 28, 2016, 12:25:10 pm
They're really hot or miss but the patio is dog friendly. That's very helpful.

Their IPAs are god awful... but i've found like Medeski said above their other offerings pretty decent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 28, 2016, 02:23:48 pm
Denizens is a GREAT outdoors spot that is super kid and dog-friendly. Can't say that a lot about other beer gardens in this area without the word "overcrowded". I've always been a fan of Southside - it's nothing amazing but it does the job during a warm, sunny day. Agreed that they excel in the funkier beverages - thought Whodunnit was rather tasty. I do miss the BBQ Bus, though. They have a patio menu but I was rather annoyed that they sell cold, pre-made sandwiches. Apparently you can also order from the kitchen inside, too. Wish I knew that before ordering a mediocre chicken curry sub from the outdoor bar!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on June 28, 2016, 02:58:16 pm
there were people brewing beer, in the Nissan parking lot, for the dmb show.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:48:15 pm
Did sidenozzle stop drinking or something?

Trillium cans starting today! Not sure how this will impact things as Trillium is one of the best more easily accessible beers to acquire. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on June 29, 2016, 03:52:38 pm
Space Reaper is significantly better on draft
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 03:55:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:48:15 pm
Did sidenozzle stop drinking or something?

Trillium cans starting today! Not sure how this will impact things as Trillium is one of the best more easily accessible beers to acquire. 

I'm thinking the price per ounce would go way down? Great beer, but damn their bombers are expensive.

Probably told this story already, but I once took a handful of coworkers to their tasting room back when the South Boston location did free samples...and one of my coworkers disliked their hoppy beers so much that every now and then he uses that experience to remind me what terrible taste I have in beer....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 03:56:01 pm
Quote from: fatskippy on June 29, 2016, 03:52:38 pm
Space Reaper is significantly better on draft

It is very good but not great on draft this year, imo. Think I will skip the cans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:57:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 03:55:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:48:15 pm
Did sidenozzle stop drinking or something?

Trillium cans starting today! Not sure how this will impact things as Trillium is one of the best more easily accessible beers to acquire. 

I'm thinking the price per ounce would go way down? Great beer, but damn their bombers are expensive.

Probably told this story already, but I once took a handful of coworkers to their tasting room back when the South Boston location did free samples...and one of my coworkers disliked their hoppy beers so much that every now and then he uses that experience to remind me what terrible taste I have in beer....

I'm too lazy to break down the costs (and I'm sure you already have this data), but $9 to $13 for 25oz of a top tier (some could argue the best IPA) isn't bad IMO.

But yes, price will go down, however, i hope this doesn't mean demand goes up and we have ourselves another treehouse, heady, aslin epidemic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:02:47 pm
How about some price per ounce comparison charts? Anyone?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 04:03:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:57:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 03:55:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:48:15 pm
Did sidenozzle stop drinking or something?

Trillium cans starting today! Not sure how this will impact things as Trillium is one of the best more easily accessible beers to acquire. 

I'm thinking the price per ounce would go way down? Great beer, but damn their bombers are expensive.

Probably told this story already, but I once took a handful of coworkers to their tasting room back when the South Boston location did free samples...and one of my coworkers disliked their hoppy beers so much that every now and then he uses that experience to remind me what terrible taste I have in beer....

I'm too lazy to break down the costs (and I'm sure you already have this data), but $9 to $13 for 25oz of a top tier (some could argue the best IPA) isn't bad IMO.

I would pay that price once in a while, but not all the time. If I lived around the corner from a bottle shop that had it at that price and it was superfresh, maybe once a month.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2016, 04:03:35 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:02:47 pm
How about some price per ounce comparison charts? Anyone?

The beer you drink is measured in how many spider dumps you take the next day after drinking them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2016, 04:04:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 04:03:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:57:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 03:55:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:48:15 pm
Did sidenozzle stop drinking or something?

Trillium cans starting today! Not sure how this will impact things as Trillium is one of the best more easily accessible beers to acquire. 

I'm thinking the price per ounce would go way down? Great beer, but damn their bombers are expensive.

Probably told this story already, but I once took a handful of coworkers to their tasting room back when the South Boston location did free samples...and one of my coworkers disliked their hoppy beers so much that every now and then he uses that experience to remind me what terrible taste I have in beer....

I'm too lazy to break down the costs (and I'm sure you already have this data), but $9 to $13 for 25oz of a top tier (some could argue the best IPA) isn't bad IMO.

I would pay that price once in a while, but not all the time. If I lived around the corner from a bottle shop that had it at that price and it was superfresh, maybe once a month.

Seems like you've been blowing plenty of savable dollars at Aslin lately!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:17:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 04:03:35 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:02:47 pm
How about some price per ounce comparison charts? Anyone?

The beer you drink is measured in how many spider dumps you take the next day after drinking them.

well could we see some charts??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2016, 04:19:25 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:17:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 04:03:35 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:02:47 pm
How about some price per ounce comparison charts? Anyone?

The beer you drink is measured in how many spider dumps you take the next day after drinking them.

well could we see some charts??

can you confirm that sidenozzle is on the wagon?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 04:19:25 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:17:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 04:03:35 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:02:47 pm
How about some price per ounce comparison charts? Anyone?

The beer you drink is measured in how many spider dumps you take the next day after drinking them.

well could we see some charts??

can you confirm that sidenozzle is on the wagon?

oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 06:23:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 04:04:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 04:03:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:57:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 03:55:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:48:15 pm
Did sidenozzle stop drinking or something?

Trillium cans starting today! Not sure how this will impact things as Trillium is one of the best more easily accessible beers to acquire. 

I'm thinking the price per ounce would go way down? Great beer, but damn their bombers are expensive.

Probably told this story already, but I once took a handful of coworkers to their tasting room back when the South Boston location did free samples...and one of my coworkers disliked their hoppy beers so much that every now and then he uses that experience to remind me what terrible taste I have in beer....

I'm too lazy to break down the costs (and I'm sure you already have this data), but $9 to $13 for 25oz of a top tier (some could argue the best IPA) isn't bad IMO.

I would pay that price once in a while, but not all the time. If I lived around the corner from a bottle shop that had it at that price and it was superfresh, maybe once a month.

Seems like you've been blowing plenty of savable dollars at Aslin lately!

Think I got four 32 oz growler/crowlers in the past three months or so at Aslin, so yes definitely been splurging!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2016, 07:08:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:48:15 pm
Did sidenozzle stop drinking or something?
decided to take all the spare change out of the couch and buy a new home
so be drinking a lot of yuengling in 2016/17/18/19/20......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm



oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Drank 4 of the 5 beers...it was a two hour drive and I did think it was a 6 pack
(thinking I left you two)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 07:18:17 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:57:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2016, 03:55:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2016, 03:48:15 pm
Did sidenozzle stop drinking or something?

Trillium cans starting today! Not sure how this will impact things as Trillium is one of the best more easily accessible beers to acquire. 

I'm thinking the price per ounce would go way down? Great beer, but damn their bombers are expensive.

Probably told this story already, but I once took a handful of coworkers to their tasting room back when the South Boston location did free samples...and one of my coworkers disliked their hoppy beers so much that every now and then he uses that experience to remind me what terrible taste I have in beer....

I'm too lazy to break down the costs (and I'm sure you already have this data), but $9 to $13 for 25oz of a top tier (some could argue the best IPA) isn't bad IMO.

But yes, price will go down, however, i hope this doesn't mean demand goes up and we have ourselves another treehouse, heady, aslin epidemic.

$15/4 pack on the pale ale, 16 oz cans
$17/4 pack on the IPA, 16 oz cans

Definitely better than $9-$13 for on2 25 oz bottle.

I love that can size, means i get eight ounces instead of six, which is the perfect pour size, imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 30, 2016, 01:04:00 am
Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on June 29, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm



oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Drank 4 of the 5 beers...it was a two hour drive and I did think it was a 6 pack
(thinking I left you two)



had to ruin my story didn't ya...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 07:44:23 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 01:04:00 am
Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on June 29, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm



oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Drank 4 of the 5 beers...it was a two hour drive and I did think it was a 6 pack
(thinking I left you two)



had to ruin my story didn't ya...

Open container in moving vehicle? Wow, good jobs guys. That's pretty white trash of y'all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 30, 2016, 08:27:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 07:44:23 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 01:04:00 am
Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on June 29, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm



oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Drank 4 of the 5 beers...it was a two hour drive and I did think it was a 6 pack
(thinking I left you two)



had to ruin my story didn't ya...

Open container in moving vehicle? Wow, good jobs guys. That's pretty white trash of y'all.

Thanks man we work hard to earn your approval!

 ;D ;D ;D

I didn't have an open container of my own but my passenger did...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 08:42:08 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 08:27:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 07:44:23 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 01:04:00 am
Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on June 29, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm



oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Drank 4 of the 5 beers...it was a two hour drive and I did think it was a 6 pack
(thinking I left you two)



had to ruin my story didn't ya...

Open container in moving vehicle? Wow, good jobs guys. That's pretty white trash of y'all.

Thanks man we work hard to earn your approval!

 ;D ;D ;D

I didn't have an open container of my own but my passenger did...

While that may fly in our great white-trash redneck  state of Virginia, it doesn't in Maryland.


Open Containers in Vehicles
While the federal government can?t directly legislate open container laws they can create incentives for states to implement these laws on their own. The Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century (Tea-21) sets out certain guidelines for states to follow in order to receive roadway funding. If the state fails to comply, a portion of the funding will go to alcohol awareness. All but 11 states have an outright ban on open containers in vehicles. Alaska, Louisiana, Tennessee, and Wyoming have partial bans whereas Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Mississippi, Missouri, Virginia, and West Virginia actually allow passengers to drink.

http://opencontainerlaws.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2016, 08:49:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 07:44:23 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 01:04:00 am
Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on June 29, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm



oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Drank 4 of the 5 beers...it was a two hour drive and I did think it was a 6 pack
(thinking I left you two)



had to ruin my story didn't ya...

Open container in moving vehicle? Wow, good jobs guys. That's pretty white trash of y'all.

Space would prefer to have a handful of tasters at a bar and then drive home from there!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 30, 2016, 08:52:19 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 08:42:08 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 08:27:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 07:44:23 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 01:04:00 am
Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on June 29, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm



oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Drank 4 of the 5 beers...it was a two hour drive and I did think it was a 6 pack
(thinking I left you two)



had to ruin my story didn't ya...

Open container in moving vehicle? Wow, good jobs guys. That's pretty white trash of y'all.

Thanks man we work hard to earn your approval!

 ;D ;D ;D

I didn't have an open container of my own but my passenger did...

While that may fly in our great white-trash redneck  state of Virginia, it doesn't in Maryland.


Open Containers in Vehicles
While the federal government can’t directly legislate open container laws they can create incentives for states to implement these laws on their own. The Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century (Tea-21) sets out certain guidelines for states to follow in order to receive roadway funding. If the state fails to comply, a portion of the funding will go to alcohol awareness. All but 11 states have an outright ban on open containers in vehicles. Alaska, Louisiana, Tennessee, and Wyoming have partial bans whereas Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Mississippi, Missouri, Virginia, and West Virginia actually allow passengers to drink.

http://opencontainerlaws.com/

wow and I thought it was illegal everywhere for passengers in moving vehicles.. I note Connecticut, Delaware, Alaska and Wyoming.....they don't seem very white trash to me..

Does this law only apply to "moving vehicles" btw?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2016, 09:01:55 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 08:52:19 am
I note Connecticut, Delaware, Alaska and Wyoming.....they don't seem very white trash to me..

you clearly haven't spent much time in those 4 states...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 09:03:44 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 08:52:19 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 08:42:08 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 08:27:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 07:44:23 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 01:04:00 am
Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on June 29, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm



oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Drank 4 of the 5 beers...it was a two hour drive and I did think it was a 6 pack
(thinking I left you two)



had to ruin my story didn't ya...

Open container in moving vehicle? Wow, good jobs guys. That's pretty white trash of y'all.

Thanks man we work hard to earn your approval!

 ;D ;D ;D

I didn't have an open container of my own but my passenger did...

While that may fly in our great white-trash redneck  state of Virginia, it doesn't in Maryland.


Open Containers in Vehicles
While the federal government can?t directly legislate open container laws they can create incentives for states to implement these laws on their own. The Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century (Tea-21) sets out certain guidelines for states to follow in order to receive roadway funding. If the state fails to comply, a portion of the funding will go to alcohol awareness. All but 11 states have an outright ban on open containers in vehicles. Alaska, Louisiana, Tennessee, and Wyoming have partial bans whereas Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Mississippi, Missouri, Virginia, and West Virginia actually allow passengers to drink.

http://opencontainerlaws.com/

wow and I thought it was illegal everywhere for passengers in moving vehicles.. I note Connecticut, Delaware, Alaska and Wyoming.....they don't seem very white trash to me..

Does this law only apply to "moving vehicles" btw?

I'm no lawyer, but I know how to google.

http://forum.freeadvice.com/other-crimes-federal-state-4/open-container-parked-car-514787.html

We're daytripping to Rehoboth this weekend, so I'll report back on the Delaware white trash situation. We last went two years ago, and I seem to recall plenty of white and minority trash on the boardwalk, if bad tattoos and Looney Tunes t-shirts are accurate indicators of trashiness.

And Alaska? Come on. They elected Sarah Palin. Enough said.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 30, 2016, 09:06:01 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 09:03:44 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 08:52:19 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 08:42:08 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 08:27:48 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2016, 07:44:23 am
Quote from: hutch on June 30, 2016, 01:04:00 am
Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on June 29, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: hutch on June 29, 2016, 04:22:13 pm



oh he's just somewhat busy with life.. he'll be back... he went to the Cure last week and even bought me two beers!!!! which was fair cause he drank my entire six pack on the way up!
Drank 4 of the 5 beers...it was a two hour drive and I did think it was a 6 pack
(thinking I left you two)



had to ruin my story didn't ya...

Open container in moving vehicle? Wow, good jobs guys. That's pretty white trash of y'all.

Thanks man we work hard to earn your approval!

 ;D ;D ;D

I didn't have an open container of my own but my passenger did...

While that may fly in our great white-trash redneck  state of Virginia, it doesn't in Maryland.


Open Containers in Vehicles
While the federal government can?t directly legislate open container laws they can create incentives for states to implement these laws on their own. The Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century (Tea-21) sets out certain guidelines for states to follow in order to receive roadway funding. If the state fails to comply, a portion of the funding will go to alcohol awareness. All but 11 states have an outright ban on open containers in vehicles. Alaska, Louisiana, Tennessee, and Wyoming have partial bans whereas Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Mississippi, Missouri, Virginia, and West Virginia actually allow passengers to drink.

http://opencontainerlaws.com/

wow and I thought it was illegal everywhere for passengers in moving vehicles.. I note Connecticut, Delaware, Alaska and Wyoming.....they don't seem very white trash to me..

Does this law only apply to "moving vehicles" btw?

I'm no lawyer, but I know how to google.

http://forum.freeadvice.com/other-crimes-federal-state-4/open-container-parked-car-514787.html

We're daytripping to Rehoboth this weekend, so I'll report back on the Delaware white trash situation. We last went two years ago, and I seem to recall plenty of white and minority trash on the boardwalk, if bad tattoos and Looney Tunes t-shirts are accurate indicators of trashiness.

And Alaska? Come on. They elected Sarah Palin. Enough said.

oh I know how to google but I got you to do it for me... ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on June 30, 2016, 09:16:02 am
I take that back Space.. that was some crap google search you did.. get your act together.


 ;D ;D ;D

I have to be honest...  I don't like to get busted so I like to know what it is... BUT some laws I don't care about breakin'.....other things I really care about: for example using a cell phone while driving or internetting while driving.. i see people doing this all the time and it drives me crazy.... or driving ultra carefully and maintaining a lot of space behind the car in front of me...  that stuff is important to me.. but a guy drinking in my car while I drive.. no, that does not matter to me.. I don't even consider it white trash.. just smart... when you're heading to a concert you got to pre-party...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 30, 2016, 12:37:23 pm
Alchemist in Stowe opened today
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2016, 12:52:12 pm
Quote from: brennser on June 30, 2016, 12:37:23 pm
Alchemist in Stowe opened today

thanks for the heads-up. i'll be hitting it in august.

edit: today is the soft opening, true opening tomorrow, more on their blog (http://alchemistbeer.com/blog/).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 30, 2016, 12:54:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 30, 2016, 12:52:12 pm
Quote from: brennser on June 30, 2016, 12:37:23 pm
Alchemist in Stowe opened today

thanks for the heads-up. i'll be hitting it in august.
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2016, 01:04:15 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on June 30, 2016, 12:54:40 pm
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like a luxurophile that owes me money.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 30, 2016, 01:13:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 30, 2016, 01:04:15 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on June 30, 2016, 12:54:40 pm
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/62263102.jpg)

like a luxurophile that owes me money.
I owe you money?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2016, 01:26:44 pm
you do not.  it was an analogy: i am going to hit The Alchemist tasting room as hard as i would hit a luxurophile that owes me money, if one owed me money.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 30, 2016, 01:30:53 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 30, 2016, 01:26:44 pm
you do not. 
OK, just wanting to make sure I did not miss something. Julian squelches on no debts! An IOU deferred is an IOU denied!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2016, 10:49:27 am
coupons for a free (empty) growler & $2 off a fill at a few Total Wines in NoVA: klink (https://pages.email-totalwine.com/page.aspx?QS=38dfbe491fab00ea9a42731d3631f36d6e74ee94977c380d914b04acd21c69ea) - read the fine print for locations, and supposedly you can only use one at a time although it can't be too hard to get around that one... expires july 10.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 01, 2016, 12:01:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, Authenticated LUXUROPHILE on June 30, 2016, 01:30:53 pm
Julian squelches on no debts! An IOU deferred is an IOU denied!

I have that coffee table book you promised me?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 01, 2016, 12:16:30 pm
I bought some Guiness IPA... most fucked up beer ever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2016, 02:14:25 pm
possibly for the Julian's America thread...

let's say it's hot
but the beer cozy makes you look like a redneck
and you kinda want to look like a lululemon mom


well....botttlekeeper (https://www.bottlekeeper.com/) ($25) is for you
(http://50campfires.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/bottle-keeper.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 01, 2016, 02:25:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 01, 2016, 10:49:27 am
coupons for a free (empty) growler & $2 off a fill at a few Total Wines in NoVA: klink (https://pages.email-totalwine.com/page.aspx?QS=38dfbe491fab00ea9a42731d3631f36d6e74ee94977c380d914b04acd21c69ea) - read the fine print for locations, and supposedly you can only use one at a time although it can't be too hard to get around that one... expires july 10.

So far I have claimed two empty growlers with this offer and filled a couple of 32 oz growlers. Most notable score was Ocelot Wicked Garden DIPA, which is an $11 32 oz fill at the brewery, but was $4.99 with coupon at Total Wine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 01, 2016, 04:13:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 01, 2016, 02:25:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 01, 2016, 10:49:27 am
coupons for a free (empty) growler & $2 off a fill at a few Total Wines in NoVA: klink (https://pages.email-totalwine.com/page.aspx?QS=38dfbe491fab00ea9a42731d3631f36d6e74ee94977c380d914b04acd21c69ea) - read the fine print for locations, and supposedly you can only use one at a time although it can't be too hard to get around that one... expires july 10.

So far I have claimed two empty growlers with this offer and filled a couple of 32 oz growlers. Most notable score was Ocelot Wicked Garden DIPA, which is an $11 32 oz fill at the brewery, but was $4.99 with coupon at Total Wine.


hahahah.. I knew this was coming!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 06, 2016, 12:33:31 pm
for those looking to sip some rare lambics, you should go to the Sovereign in G'town on wednesdays in july (https://www.facebook.com/theSovereignDC/events).

today! 7/06 - The Sovereign Lambic Showcase Part 1 List:
Cantillon Rhubarbe (Draft)
Drie Fonteinen Golden Blend 2014 (From Bottle)
De Cam Oude Gueuze 2015 (From Bottle)
Girardin Kriek 2015 (From Bottle)

7/13 - The Sovereign Lambic Showcase Part 2 List:
Cantillon Lou Pepe - Gueuze 2013 (From Bottle)
Drie Fonteinen Intense Red 2014 (From Bottle)
Tilquin Oude Gueuze Tilquin à l?Ancienne 2015 (From Bottle)
Lindemans Spontanbasil 2015 (From Bottle)

7/20 - The Sovereign Lambic Showcase Part 3 List:
Drie Fonteinen Hommage 2015 (From Bottle)
Cantillon Gueuze 2015 (Draft)
Drie Fonteinen Oude Kriek 2015 (From Bottle)
Girardin Gueuze 1882 (Black Label) 2015 (From Bottle)

7/27 -
Cantillon Saint Lamvinus 2015
Cantillon Vigneronne 2015
Drie Fonteinen Oude Gueuze 2015
Lindemans Cuvee Rene - Kriek 2015

i've had the Rhubarbe... certifiably excellent.   

i wonder what the prices will be like?  a bottle of "standard" Cantillon is $45...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 06, 2016, 12:36:02 pm
at CK on Tuesday, July 19 (https://www.facebook.com/events/295597067451250/):

Join us on Tuesday, July 19th as we showcase the newest and freshest batch of DC Brau On the Wings of Armageddon! On this night, ChurchKey will feature this beloved local beer six different ways, on both draft and cask.

First poured at ChurchKey in December 2012, OTWOA has earned a strong following with beer enthusiasts, both locally and nationally. Brewed exclusively with the proprietary hop blend Falconer?s Flight, this Imperial IPA exudes bright fruit aromas of citrus, white grape and grapefruit.

In an effort to complement the fruit forward hop aromas, as well as the warm summer weather, DC Brau has prepared 5 exclusive casks of OTWOA, each conditioned with a different tropical fruit; mango, guava, lychee, pineapple and tangerine.

There is no admission fee for this event and all DC Brau beers will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours.

THE OFFICIAL DC BRAU OTWOA - FRESH & FRUITY CASK NIGHT LIST
DC Brau On the Wings of Armageddon - Imperial IPA - 9.2%
DC Brau On the Wings of Armageddon w/ Mango (Cask)
DC Brau On the Wings of Armageddon w/ Guava (Cask)
DC Brau On the Wings of Armageddon w/ Lychee (Cask)
DC Brau On the Wings of Armageddon w/ Pineapple (Cask)
DC Brau On the Wings of Armageddon w/ Tangerine (Cask)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 06, 2016, 12:40:33 pm
Sweets, was kind of hoping to get a Gonzo/Julian style commentary on the Beercation you went on
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 06, 2016, 01:00:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 06, 2016, 12:33:31 pm
for those looking to sip some rare lambics, you should go to the Sovereign in G'town on wednesdays in july (https://www.facebook.com/theSovereignDC/events).

today! 7/06 - The Sovereign Lambic Showcase Part 1 List:
Cantillon Rhubarbe (Draft)
Drie Fonteinen Golden Blend 2014 (From Bottle)
De Cam Oude Gueuze 2015 (From Bottle)
Girardin Kriek 2015 (From Bottle)

7/13 - The Sovereign Lambic Showcase Part 2 List:
Cantillon Lou Pepe - Gueuze 2013 (From Bottle)
Drie Fonteinen Intense Red 2014 (From Bottle)
Tilquin Oude Gueuze Tilquin à l?Ancienne 2015 (From Bottle)
Lindemans Spontanbasil 2015 (From Bottle)

7/20 - The Sovereign Lambic Showcase Part 3 List:
Drie Fonteinen Hommage 2015 (From Bottle)
Cantillon Gueuze 2015 (Draft)
Drie Fonteinen Oude Kriek 2015 (From Bottle)
Girardin Gueuze 1882 (Black Label) 2015 (From Bottle)

7/27 -
Cantillon Saint Lamvinus 2015
Cantillon Vigneronne 2015
Drie Fonteinen Oude Gueuze 2015
Lindemans Cuvee Rene - Kriek 2015

i've had the Rhubarbe... certifiably excellent.   

i wonder what the prices will be like?  a bottle of "standard" Cantillon is $45...

I can't imagine very space friendly per ounce costs round them parts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 06, 2016, 01:40:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 06, 2016, 01:00:42 pm
I can't imagine very space friendly per ounce costs round them parts.

lol, definitely not.  i wouldn't be surprised if these were $15 a pour, although i'm hoping for maybe $12.  certainly not something you order with cost vs. quantity in mind... these are potentially once in a lifetime beers, short of travelling to Belgium.

Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 06, 2016, 12:40:33 pm
Sweets, was kind of hoping to get a Gonzo/Julian style commentary on the Beercation you went on

working on it...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 06, 2016, 02:42:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 06, 2016, 01:40:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 06, 2016, 01:00:42 pm
I can't imagine very space friendly per ounce costs round them parts.

lol, definitely not.  i wouldn't be surprised if these were $15 a pour, although i'm hoping for maybe $12.  certainly not something you order with cost vs. quantity in mind... these are potentially once in a lifetime beers, short of travelling to Belgium.

Quote from: SideStageHead |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 06, 2016, 12:40:33 pm
Sweets, was kind of hoping to get a Gonzo/Julian style commentary on the Beercation you went on

working on it...

Would love to hit one of those evenings up but just ain't in the cards right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 06, 2016, 03:22:56 pm
My kid wants to see the BFG this weekend and I see that it's showing less than two miles away from Aslin....hmmm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 06, 2016, 03:59:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 06, 2016, 03:22:56 pm
My kid wants to see the BFG this weekend and I see that it's showing less than two miles away from Aslin....hmmm
That movie was total false-advertising. That giant didn't butt-fuck a single person.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 07, 2016, 12:59:35 pm
NC Porch Bomb.

(https://s32.postimg.org/r6z0valmd/20160707_114228.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 09, 2016, 11:02:56 am
nice designs on some of those beers, and I like the backsplash. 

I went to a beer store, my favorite in my area, and just got a growler of hoptimum because he just tapped it, even though I wanted to get the Rodenbach grand cru, but at its price and fear my friends would hate it, it did not.  did pick up random seven of these as well, some just blind trying to hope for the best

1.  founders    redankulous   (ok to good but not mind blowing)
2.  stone   ruination (I think I may have had this before actually, but did see a mocha ipa from them as well which I passed on.)
3.  victory   kirsch gose  (excellent)
4.  dogfish head    flesh and blood ipa  (bought because I guess I trust dfh)
5.  victory    Berliner weisse  (never heard of this type of beer)
6.  dogfish head    festina peche  (bought for the label and I am pretty sure I had before and liked)
7.  sierra Nevada   otra vez  (not sure why I bought it)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on July 11, 2016, 04:34:33 am
I tried that Victory Berliner Weisse this weekend and still have some in my fridge. Very tart and tasty. Love that Kirsch Gose with a passion too. Victory makes good beers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2016, 11:05:51 am
Quote from: Unsanity on July 11, 2016, 04:34:33 am
I tried that Victory Berliner Weisse this weekend and still have some in my fridge. Very tart and tasty. Love that Kirsch Gose with a passion too. Victory makes good beers!
Had the Berliner Weisse from Right Proper- Diamonds, Fur Coat, Champange at the Satilite Room before the GBV show and that was fantatic, wish the 9:30 had that on tap.

I love that Kirsch Gose, but at $12 a 4 pack...just too pricey for a low ABV beverage
I would probably have them more if it was a little more reasonably priced (sounding like space now)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2016, 11:48:51 am
FW Luponic Distortion 002: meh.  might be the first FW beer that i'm less than impressed with.  maybe the sixer i got was mistreated on the way over here... i'm hoping this is the case, as i can't believe that FW could screw up a hoppy beer.  not that i'm going to risk my money on another 6 pack...

Quote from: trappe latérale |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 11, 2016, 11:05:51 am
I love that Kirsch Gose, but at $12 a 4 pack...just too pricey for a low ABV beverage

for the same price, would you rather have a tasty sub-5% beer, or a mediocre 10% monster?

i'd rather be sipping on something light and tasty when dealing with summer heat...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 11, 2016, 12:04:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 11, 2016, 11:48:51 am
FW Luponic Distortion 002: meh.  might be the first FW beer that i'm less than impressed with.  maybe the sixer i got was mistreated on the way over here... i'm hoping this is the case, as i can't believe that FW could screw up a hoppy beer.  not that i'm going to risk my money on another 6 pack...

Quote from: trappe latérale |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 11, 2016, 11:05:51 am
I love that Kirsch Gose, but at $12 a 4 pack...just too pricey for a low ABV beverage

for the same price, would you rather have a tasty sub-5% beer, or a mediocre 10% monster?

i'd rather be sipping on something light and tasty when dealing with summer heat...

I'm with Sweetcell on that one. Not about how drunk the beer can get me, it's about how much taste pleasure it can provide.

Kirsch Gose gets a Space Taste Rating (STR) of 8.1 (out of 10) for me, divided by 25 cents per ounce so the Space Taste Price Quotient (STPQ)  is a highly respectable 32.4.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 11, 2016, 12:07:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 11, 2016, 12:04:44 pm
Kirsch Gose gets a Space Taste Rating (STR) of 8.1 (out of 10) for me, divided by 25 cents per ounce so the Space Taste Price Quotient (STPQ)  is a highly respectable 32.4.
It's been a while since I dusted off this old chestnut, but: we are through the looking-glass here, people.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 11, 2016, 12:22:12 pm
I drank a De Garde Cherry Gose last week and then had the Victory and it blew the De Garde bottle out of the water.

Maybe my favorite new beer of the past year or two. My mouth is watering thinking about one now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 11, 2016, 12:28:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 11, 2016, 12:04:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 11, 2016, 11:48:51 am
FW Luponic Distortion 002: meh.  might be the first FW beer that i'm less than impressed with.  maybe the sixer i got was mistreated on the way over here... i'm hoping this is the case, as i can't believe that FW could screw up a hoppy beer.  not that i'm going to risk my money on another 6 pack...

Quote from: trappe latérale |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 11, 2016, 11:05:51 am
I love that Kirsch Gose, but at $12 a 4 pack...just too pricey for a low ABV beverage

for the same price, would you rather have a tasty sub-5% beer, or a mediocre 10% monster?

i'd rather be sipping on something light and tasty when dealing with summer heat...

I'm with Sweetcell on that one. Not about how drunk the beer can get me, it's about how much taste pleasure it can provide.

Kirsch Gose gets a Space Taste Rating (STR) of 8.1 (out of 10) for me, divided by 25 cents per ounce so the Space Taste Price Quotient (STPQ)  is a highly respectable 32.4.


It's actually $10/four pack at Total Wine. That's 21 cents an ounce for an even better STPQ of 38.6. Even higher if you use the $1 off coupon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2016, 12:37:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 11, 2016, 12:04:44 pm
Quote from: trappe latérale |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 11, 2016, 11:05:51 am
I love that Kirsch Gose, but at $12 a 4 pack...just too pricey for a low ABV beverage

for the same price, would you rather have a tasty sub-5% beer, or a mediocre 10% monster?

i'd rather be sipping on something light and tasty when dealing with summer heat...
Quote
I'm with Sweetcell on that one. Not about how drunk the beer can get me, it's about how much taste pleasure it can provide.

Kirsch Gose gets a Space Taste Rating (STR) of 8.1 (out of 10) for me, divided by 25 cents per ounce so the Space Taste Price Quotient (STPQ)  is a highly respectable 32.4.

well, just I'm just a little more ok with paying for high ABV when there are typically more costs involved with production due to aging and higher grain/hop bill
Not necessarly how much 'bang for the buck'
I know I should be OK with the lower abv Gose/Weisse/sours since they do require a lot more deft hands to produce a quality product (and I assume there are costs I'm unaware of due to aging and fruit costs)

also, I had 4 of these on Father's day (my gift to me) and I could have easily had a few more.
as like you said, this is a great beer to keep drinking on hot days, but at that price I can't really stock the mini fridge with those (under my current fiscal constraints)

It's still cheaper than any  $10-18 bomber, by a long shot...so in retrospect there is some value there
 
I eagarly await the BA to add the STPQ to their ratings


lastly, I really enjoyed the Hardywood Peach Triple that I had this weekend





Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2016, 04:04:24 pm
i have nothing against wanting more alcoholic bang for the buck.  depending on the circumstances, a high ABV beer could be the desirable choice.  what i have a problem with is when ABV is the only criteria being used, ergo a low ABV beer is never desirable and high ABV beers are always preferable...

Quote from: escotilha lateral |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 11, 2016, 12:37:09 pm
well, just I'm just a little more ok with paying for high ABV when there are typically more costs involved with production due to aging and higher grain/hop bill

aging adds significant cost to a beer's production cost, but grains and hops - especially grains - have less of an impact on cost than you might think. 

fixed costs make up most of the price of beer.  regardless of what beer you're brewing, most costs don't change:
- rent/lease/mortgage
- loans & interest
- staff salary and benefits
- insurance
- most taxes
- marketing
- non-production support staff
- bottling and packaging
- distribution
- etc...

i read recently that the fixed costs are often more than 80% of total cost... so doubling the cost of hops, which might be 5-10% of the total for some beers, isn't going to result in a huge increase in the overall cost.  i once asked a brewery owner why they didn't charge more for their hop-heavy big IPAs, vs. their light & almost hop-less blond ale, and he said that the extra 25-30 cents per pint he could charge wasn't worth the effort of having differently-priced beers (logistically easier for all beers to have the same price).

Quote from: escotilha lateral |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 11, 2016, 12:37:09 pm
I know I should be OK with the lower abv Gose/Weisse/sours since they do require a lot more deft hands to produce a quality product (and I assume there are costs I'm unaware of due to aging and fruit costs)

gose and berliners are "quick-sour beers" - they are brewed without aging, and only add a day or two to the overall timeline (although they tie up a piece of equipment, typically the kettle, while the beer is being soured).  the additional cost of brewing a gose or BW is pretty minimal.  in my opinion, they also tend to be less interesting than a long-aged sours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 11, 2016, 04:49:58 pm
I've stumbled across Founders Mosaic Promise lately.  Quite pleased with this development.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 11, 2016, 07:41:25 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 04, 2015, 05:09:17 pm
In Ohio/WV for work and noticed Lagunitas Sucks sixers on the shelves! We have to be getting these soon, right?! I love that beer with a passion.

Also, Columbus is an AMAZING beer city. Bodhi by CBC is a Top 5 beer for me, plus I got it on draft for $5! And that was right after a glass of Alpha King.

I'll be passing through Columbus on the way to Chicago in a few weeks. Hoping to grab all the usual suspects on that trip...Zombie Dust, White Rajah, Headhunter, may shoot up to Wisconsin and grab some New Glarus...may stop at Hoof Hearted and Seventh Son in Columbus and maybe hit he new Lagunitas Brewery in chicago...but perhaps the most exciting news of that trip is....


Columbus Brewing Co. announced that its award-winning double India pale ale, Bodhi, will be offered in bottles on July 16.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 11, 2016, 07:45:18 pm
Quote from: bla,sé on July 11, 2016, 04:49:58 pm
I've stumbled across Founders Mosaic Promise lately.  Quite pleased with this development.

Its, nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 12, 2016, 12:19:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 11, 2016, 07:41:25 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 04, 2015, 05:09:17 pm
In Ohio/WV for work and noticed Lagunitas Sucks sixers on the shelves! We have to be getting these soon, right?! I love that beer with a passion.

Also, Columbus is an AMAZING beer city. Bodhi by CBC is a Top 5 beer for me, plus I got it on draft for $5! And that was right after a glass of Alpha King.

I'll be passing through Columbus on the way to Chicago in a few weeks. Hoping to grab all the usual suspects on that trip...Zombie Dust, White Rajah, Headhunter, may shoot up to Wisconsin and grab some New Glarus...may stop at Hoof Hearted and Seventh Son in Columbus and maybe hit he new Lagunitas Brewery in chicago...but perhaps the most exciting news of that trip is....


Columbus Brewing Co. announced that its award-winning double India pale ale, Bodhi, will be offered in bottles on July 16.

 :o

That is very exciting. Switched jobs so don't hit travel to OH anymore but that's a very trade-worthy beer. What's great is that a lot of Columbus bars have it on tap, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on July 12, 2016, 12:51:04 pm
Checked out RAR in Cambridge, Md over the weekend.  Fun place.  Liked their American IPA (New Englandy).  Highly drinkable at 6%
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 12, 2016, 12:55:13 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 12, 2016, 12:19:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 11, 2016, 07:41:25 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 04, 2015, 05:09:17 pm
In Ohio/WV for work and noticed Lagunitas Sucks sixers on the shelves! We have to be getting these soon, right?! I love that beer with a passion.

Also, Columbus is an AMAZING beer city. Bodhi by CBC is a Top 5 beer for me, plus I got it on draft for $5! And that was right after a glass of Alpha King.

I'll be passing through Columbus on the way to Chicago in a few weeks. Hoping to grab all the usual suspects on that trip...Zombie Dust, White Rajah, Headhunter, may shoot up to Wisconsin and grab some New Glarus...may stop at Hoof Hearted and Seventh Son in Columbus and maybe hit he new Lagunitas Brewery in chicago...but perhaps the most exciting news of that trip is....


Columbus Brewing Co. announced that its award-winning double India pale ale, Bodhi, will be offered in bottles on July 16.

 :o

That is very exciting. Switched jobs so don't hit travel to OH anymore but that's a very trade-worthy beer. What's great is that a lot of Columbus bars have it on tap, too.
Horrible beer. Not only is it not from Michigan, but it is from Ohio. And not only is it from Ohio, its from peak-asshole Ohio.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 03:04:58 pm
I'm generally not a cream ale kind of guy, but dang if this isn't quite tasty.

However, tt 5.5% abv and $15/six pack, it might make sidehutch fall behind on the mortgage payments for the McMansion.  ;)

(http://www.ballastpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/02-beers-primary-CBTS.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 12, 2016, 03:34:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 03:04:58 pm
McMansion. 
more of an ArbysCraftsman

so what was the STPQ on that?
You're going to have to add that to all your post now
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 03:57:04 pm
Quote from: escotilha lateral |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 12, 2016, 03:34:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 03:04:58 pm
McMansion. 
more of an ArbysCraftsman

so what was the STPQ on that?
You're going to have to add that to all your post now


Same price as Kirsch Gose, about the same STR, so STPQ 32.4.

Tonight we are doing a faceoff with Founders KBS vs. Weyerbacher Sunday Morning Stout. I fully expect the KBS to have the higher STR, but it will be interesting to see which wins the STPQ as the KBS is pricier. And by "we" I could possibly mean me, as my wife is sometimes not a big stout drinker.

Then again, that's a lot of bourbon stout to drink in one 90 degree weekday evening,  we may have to spread it over two nights.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2016, 04:34:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 03:57:04 pm
Then again, that's a lot of bourbon stout to drink in one 90 degree weekday evening,  we may have to spread it over two nights.

save it for friday night then.

or, you know, man up ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 12, 2016, 04:48:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 03:04:58 pm
I'm generally not a cream ale kind of guy, but dang if this isn't quite tasty.

However, tt 5.5% abv and $15/six pack, it might make sidehutch fall behind on the mortgage payments for the McMansion.  ;)

(http://www.ballastpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/02-beers-primary-CBTS.png)

Isn't Ballast Point owned by some conglomerate now?  Might as well be drinking Blue Moon...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 08:16:06 pm
Quote from: bla,sé on July 12, 2016, 04:48:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 03:04:58 pm
I'm generally not a cream ale kind of guy, but dang if this isn't quite tasty.

However, tt 5.5% abv and $15/six pack, it might make sidehutch fall behind on the mortgage payments for the McMansion.  ;)

(http://www.ballastpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/02-beers-primary-CBTS.png)

Isn't Ballast Point owned by some conglomerate now?  Might as well be drinking Blue Moon...

Good beer is good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 12, 2016, 08:17:41 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 08:16:06 pm
Good beer is good beer.

Exactly.

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2016, 08:41:16 am
posting just cuz I thought this was a cool photo

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13680788_1135682826474866_8248712181690472079_n.jpg?oh=1d0282dd2c1c7542787c712eaa1fa388&oe=58338570)

they are doing a Adroit Theory Brewing Company‎ @Fireworks Arlington Beer Dinner
but no details other than 9/21
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2016, 09:14:56 am
some of you here have refined palets...so no need for a class.
but this does sound interesting...other than being in Fairfax and in wegmans on a Thursday
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2016, 09:29:13 am
I've mentioned this place before and they really have a great rotating tap list of local brews with a knowledgeable staff (IMO)

they are hosting their first fest and have the luck of facing a nice courtyard in the Tysons corner mall ( I know yuck)

Mark your calendar for the first Barrel & Bushel Virginia Craft Beer Festival! This event is bringing together more than 50 regional breweries showcasing the season's best brews! You'll be able to spend the afternoon meeting the brewers, tasting delicious handcrafted food, sampling the industry's best bourbons, listening to live music, and working on your tan. Your ticket includes a limited edition tasting glass, 2 drink tickets and some fun summer swag!

EVENT DETAILS
When
Saturday, July 16: 12pm - 7pm
Sunday, July 17: 12pm - 5pm
Where
Right outside Barrel & Bushel on the Tysons Corner Center Plaza situated between the Hyatt Regency Hotel and Lord and Taylor.

breweries
Brothers, Ocelot, Champion, Tall Tales, Bold Rock, Lickinghole Creek, Evolution, O'Connor, Flying Dog, South Street, Blue Mountain, Old Ox, Lost Rhino, Port City, Hardywood, Chaos Mountain, Devils Backbone, Fair Winds, Mad Fox, Adroit Theory, Starr Hill, DC Brau, Fordham & Dominion, Heavy Seas, Victory, Union, 3 Stars, Jailbreak, Center of the Universe, Mustang Sally, Three Notch?d, Wild Wolf, Dogfish Head, BadWolf, Parkway, Caboose, Old 690, Old Bust Head, Midnight Brewery, DuClaw, James River Brewing, Beer Hound, Forge Brew Works, Tröegs, Heritage, Jack's Hard Cider,

...no aslin :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 20, 2016, 10:16:53 pm
because when i think "dave mustaine", i think "4.5% saison" and/or "beer from quebec"... even the beer name, "a tout le monde", is totally on point!

Quote
Watch out for some exciting news people!

Dave Mustaine is getting ready to launch an exclusive Megadeth beer sensation in partnership with the world renowned Craft Brewery from Quebec, Unibroue.

Get ready for À TOUT LE MONDE coming soon in a location near you!

We look forward to telling you more about this brand new adventure launching in the coming weeks.

In the meantime, stay connected and don?t miss out!

Megadeth + Unibroue Present:
À TOUT LE MONDE, a Belgian Style Saison Ale
Coming Soon: www.megadethbeer.com 
 
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13707798_10153549628932330_6713143930697543927_n.jpg?oh=1ac8b561e1a2b583961878af2e1c86e8&oe=582BFA72)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 21, 2016, 12:32:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 20, 2016, 10:16:53 pm
because when i think "dave mustaine", i think "4.5% saison" and/or "beer from quebec"... even the beer name, "a tout le monde", is totally on point!

Quote
Watch out for some exciting news people!

Dave Mustaine is getting ready to launch an exclusive Megadeth beer sensation in partnership with the world renowned Craft Brewery from Quebec, Unibroue.

Get ready for À TOUT LE MONDE coming soon in a location near you!

We look forward to telling you more about this brand new adventure launching in the coming weeks.

In the meantime, stay connected and don?t miss out!

Megadeth + Unibroue Present:
À TOUT LE MONDE, a Belgian Style Saison Ale
Coming Soon: www.megadethbeer.com 
 
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13707798_10153549628932330_6713143930697543927_n.jpg?oh=1ac8b561e1a2b583961878af2e1c86e8&oe=582BFA72)



What you're looking at is the future of France, if you vote Le Pen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 26, 2016, 12:19:47 pm
anyone here going to GABF this year?  Oct 6-8, https://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com

like every other year, i have an offer code to buy tickets for the members-only session on saturday.  lemme know if you want it via PM.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 26, 2016, 12:24:29 pm
doesn't help it's in Denver, Colorado
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 26, 2016, 12:34:49 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 26, 2016, 12:24:29 pm
doesn't help it's in Denver, Colorado

It's always in Denver.

Colorado is an awesome place for a family vacation. Too bad they don't hold the festival in the summer. Maybe the target audience isn't the 40-something dad set.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 26, 2016, 12:40:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 26, 2016, 12:34:49 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 26, 2016, 12:24:29 pm
doesn't help it's in Denver, Colorado

It's always in Denver.

Colorado is an awesome place for a family vacation. Too bad they don't hold the festival in the summer. Maybe the target audience isn't the 40-something dad set.

The fall is a great time to visit Denver.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2016, 12:51:04 pm

 talk about a dream job (http://time.com/money/4424664/smithsonian-beer-researcher/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:09:47 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 27, 2016, 12:51:04 pm

 talk about a dream job (http://time.com/money/4424664/smithsonian-beer-researcher/)

If you have a trust fund, want to live in a group house of 10 people, or live in Nebraska, but yeah, that would be niiiiiiice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2016, 01:13:48 pm
not sure what you are talking about
but $64 k with benies to drink and curate beer for the Smithsonian for 3 years sounds pretty choice to me

here is the actual posting (https://americanhistory.si.edu/sites/default/files/file-uploader/SI%20Brewing%20History_Historian%20job%20announcement_7-22-2016.pdf)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:15:19 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 27, 2016, 01:13:48 pm
not sure what you are talking about
but $64 k with benies to drink and curate beer for the Smithsonian for 3 years sounds pretty choice to me

here is the actual posting (https://americanhistory.si.edu/sites/default/files/file-uploader/SI%20Brewing%20History_Historian%20job%20announcement_7-22-2016.pdf)

Let me know where you can afford to live on 64k a year in DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 27, 2016, 01:18:09 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 27, 2016, 01:13:48 pm
$64 k with benies to drink
Is it just one eggs benedict per day or do they give you one for every meal?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 27, 2016, 01:19:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:15:19 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 27, 2016, 01:13:48 pm
not sure what you are talking about
but $64 k with benies to drink and curate beer for the Smithsonian for 3 years sounds pretty choice to me

here is the actual posting (https://americanhistory.si.edu/sites/default/files/file-uploader/SI%20Brewing%20History_Historian%20job%20announcement_7-22-2016.pdf)

Let me know where you can afford to live on 64k a year in DC.

In Fairfax County, a schoolteacher with only a BA doesn't hit 64K until year 14.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 27, 2016, 01:19:26 pm
you can barely live out here, in the trees and shrubs and raccoons and pick up trucks, for that amount.  but most people out here, would take the job for free to drink beer all the time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:26:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2016, 01:19:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:15:19 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 27, 2016, 01:13:48 pm
not sure what you are talking about
but $64 k with benies to drink and curate beer for the Smithsonian for 3 years sounds pretty choice to me

here is the actual posting (https://americanhistory.si.edu/sites/default/files/file-uploader/SI%20Brewing%20History_Historian%20job%20announcement_7-22-2016.pdf)

Let me know where you can afford to live on 64k a year in DC.

In Fairfax County, a schoolteacher with only a BA doesn't hit 64K until year 14.

Thanks for your contribution.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2016, 01:29:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:15:19 pm

Let me know where you can afford to live on 64k a year in DC.
well get your point on that
but think if you didn't spend $100 a week on good beer
and travel is a part...so I could only imagine that you'd be visiting breweries all over the country on the SI dime

So I agree one could not live (and raise a family) in dc on that salary alone, but say your SO had a good 6 figure job...that'd be adequate

but be a buzz kill

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:35:08 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 27, 2016, 01:29:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:15:19 pm

Let me know where you can afford to live on 64k a year in DC.
well get your point on that
but think if you didn't spend $100 a week on good beer
and travel is a part...so I could only imagine that you'd be visiting breweries all over the country on the SI dime

So I agree one could not live (and raise a family) in dc on that salary alone, but say your SO had a good 6 figure job...that'd be adequate

but be a buzz kill



DOOOD... I still think it's a cool job, just not feasible unless.... you have a trust fund, live in a group house, or Nebraska... or maybe you're under 25 with no dependents... or live 80 miles west of DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 27, 2016, 01:39:21 pm
There are entire swaths of the country on which 64k a year for a single person is -- while not wealthy by any means -- good money you can buy a house and a new car and put cash away for retirement on. In fact, I'd say places where that is not the case are really the exception, not the rule.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 27, 2016, 01:47:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:35:08 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 27, 2016, 01:29:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:15:19 pm

Let me know where you can afford to live on 64k a year in DC.
well get your point on that
but think if you didn't spend $100 a week on good beer
and travel is a part...so I could only imagine that you'd be visiting breweries all over the country on the SI dime

So I agree one could not live (and raise a family) in dc on that salary alone, but say your SO had a good 6 figure job...that'd be adequate

but be a buzz kill



DOOOD... I still think it's a cool job, just not feasible unless.... you have a trust fund, live in a group house, or Nebraska... or maybe you're under 25 with no dependents... or live 80 miles west of DC.

Are you telling me the people who clean my office or the people who work at the Walmart down the street from my office, some of whom I'm sure have families, make 64K a year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:48:06 pm
Quote from: Julian, adjective NOUN on July 27, 2016, 01:39:21 pm
There are entire swaths of the country on which 64k a year for a single person is -- while not wealthy by any means -- good money you can buy a house and a new car and put cash away for retirement on. In fact, I'd say places where that is not the case are really the exception, not the rule.

Absolutely, and I wish I lived in one of those places.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:49:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2016, 01:47:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:35:08 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 27, 2016, 01:29:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2016, 01:15:19 pm

Let me know where you can afford to live on 64k a year in DC.
well get your point on that
but think if you didn't spend $100 a week on good beer
and travel is a part...so I could only imagine that you'd be visiting breweries all over the country on the SI dime

So I agree one could not live (and raise a family) in dc on that salary alone, but say your SO had a good 6 figure job...that'd be adequate

but be a buzz kill



DOOOD... I still think it's a cool job, just not feasible unless.... you have a trust fund, live in a group house, or Nebraska... or maybe you're under 25 with no dependents... or live 80 miles west of DC.

Are you telling me the people who clean my office or the people who work at the Walmart down the street from my office, some of whom I'm sure have families, make 64K a year?

Quit trollin.. but that cleaning person prob lives out by walky, in a low income apt, or a group house of 12 people.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 27, 2016, 01:52:13 pm
I'm more concerned with what these Walmart workers and janitors BMIs are.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2016, 03:25:07 pm
it's fake, but it's funny

(http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/budweiser-ad.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on July 27, 2016, 04:42:11 pm
Anyone try the Southern Tier Cherry Gose?  They call it an Imperial Sour Ale (8.3%)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on July 28, 2016, 04:55:22 am
Quote from: Bagley on July 27, 2016, 04:42:11 pm
Anyone try the Southern Tier Cherry Gose?  They call it an Imperial Sour Ale (8.3%)

Sounds right up my alley. I shall be on the look out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 28, 2016, 10:20:41 am
ok for those with kids who want to go to dinner/drinks but don't want to drop $60 or more on a babysitter

http://kidfriendlydc.com/2016/07/28/kidfree-babysitting-compliments-of-chime-neighborhood-restaurant-group/ (http://kidfriendlydc.com/2016/07/28/kidfree-babysitting-compliments-of-chime-neighborhood-restaurant-group/)

You can try it out for FREE now through Labor Day. All you have to do is sign up for the service, and the first time you use it, enter the code NRG to receive four hours of babysitting credits ? that?s a $60 value! There?s no charge to register, and it?s subscription free. When you use the service beyond the first time, you just pay a flat hourly rate based on the average cost of babysitting in DC ($15).

. Current businesses include Iron Gate, Birch & Barley, ChurchKey, EatBar, Evening Star, Vermilion, Rustico, Red Apron, Buzz Bakery, Planet Wine, Bluejacket, Columbia Firehouse, B Side, The Sovereign, and Hazel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 28, 2016, 10:21:54 am
Two recent #porchbombs

Trillium in cans may be the best thing to happen to beerz in 2016!


(https://s32.postimg.org/alue8nxbp/20160728_101321.jpg)


(https://s31.postimg.org/clw88k86z/20160727_102937.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 28, 2016, 11:11:39 am
I seriously low balled my estimate that you spend $100 a week on beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 28, 2016, 11:16:16 am
Quote from: Yada on July 28, 2016, 10:21:54 am
Two recent #porchbombs

sweet haul, brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 28, 2016, 11:28:19 am
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 28, 2016, 10:20:41 am
ok for those with kids who want to go to dinner/drinks but don't want to drop $60 or more on a babysitter

http://kidfriendlydc.com/2016/07/28/kidfree-babysitting-compliments-of-chime-neighborhood-restaurant-group/ (http://kidfriendlydc.com/2016/07/28/kidfree-babysitting-compliments-of-chime-neighborhood-restaurant-group/)

You can try it out for FREE now through Labor Day. All you have to do is sign up for the service, and the first time you use it, enter the code NRG to receive four hours of babysitting credits ? that?s a $60 value! There?s no charge to register, and it?s subscription free. When you use the service beyond the first time, you just pay a flat hourly rate based on the average cost of babysitting in DC ($15).

. Current businesses include Iron Gate, Birch & Barley, ChurchKey, EatBar, Evening Star, Vermilion, Rustico, Red Apron, Buzz Bakery, Planet Wine, Bluejacket, Columbia Firehouse, B Side, The Sovereign, and Hazel.

I'm pretty sure you can go to any of those places for dinner and drinks with your kids.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 28, 2016, 11:38:51 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 28, 2016, 11:28:19 am

I'm pretty sure you can go to any of those places for dinner and drinks with your kids.
no shit Sherlock
but some normal people like to enjoy a nice dinner with out their kids
I know you don't fit in that normal category so you are excluded from this offer

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 28, 2016, 11:45:27 am
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 28, 2016, 11:11:39 am
I seriously low balled my estimate that you spend $100 a week on beer


You sir, are incorrect.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 28, 2016, 12:16:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 28, 2016, 11:45:27 am
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 28, 2016, 11:11:39 am
I seriously low balled my estimate that you spend $100 a week on beer


You sir, are incorrect.
that porch bomb was easily $200+ worth of beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 28, 2016, 12:33:21 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 28, 2016, 12:16:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 28, 2016, 11:45:27 am
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 28, 2016, 11:11:39 am
I seriously low balled my estimate that you spend $100 a week on beer


You sir, are incorrect.
that porch bomb was easily $200+ worth of beer

The WW isn't just for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 28, 2016, 01:47:26 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 28, 2016, 11:38:51 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 28, 2016, 11:28:19 am

I'm pretty sure you can go to any of those places for dinner and drinks with your kids.
no shit Sherlock
but some normal people like to enjoy a nice dinner with out their kids
I know you don't fit in that normal category so you are excluded from this offer



Enjoy those $15 snifter glass pours at your local NRG establishment, normal guy.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 28, 2016, 02:10:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 28, 2016, 01:47:26 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on July 28, 2016, 11:38:51 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 28, 2016, 11:28:19 am

I'm pretty sure you can go to any of those places for dinner and drinks with your kids.
no shit Sherlock
but some normal people like to enjoy a nice dinner with out their kids
I know you don't fit in that normal category so you are excluded from this offer




Enjoy those $15 snifter glass pours at your local NRG establishment, normal guy.  ;)
well won't deny they are more expensive
but selection at those places are some of the best in the region
and starting off with a $60 savings on babysitter fees...makes them a lot more easy on the wallet
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 29, 2016, 11:41:11 am
Got a growler of Ocelot's Purple Rain last weekend. Not too shabby, and a nice departure from their regular IPA offerings. It's a sour with black currants, and clocks in at a comfortable 4.5%. Was going to stop at Aslin after coming back from Udvar Hazy but with two kids in tow and no takeout it just wasn't worth my time. Really hope they up production soon because it is pure madness right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 29, 2016, 11:48:26 am
but they've got that Pole dancing studio you could have dropped them off at



Went to Atlas last night
They had a Gose (Should I Stay or Should I Gose...nice Jonsey ref) and it was decent, but not spectacular
The Rye Rye My Darling (rye sasion) was also decent, but not worth the trip

the new tap room is great
but the bathroom is certainly the highlight
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yQz95Y7DCrZjdNWn19MG6iNgLrmxa9SMvClgh-wZO8c5W6JEuF-r3E7OlN2OTKNaZyiNtubB3QHPL7ZdRFadCMTOlaacTnbyRrWQAeiewfeEQ0jD5PU0BBuK8g_lKjJsBQarJO5sDg9rJELV4NMdlg3g_uNdZOIjO9u5N0T9zkUTpHTAgD4_580F00_xHiGHkx6JKsaZNddUYN_k8PvRFiCEDgcCeojzOOWOZ638HhPnwrEGXQ8KkMO9K6FKFQMFnZI19qEwfwSK6c17WVztnp0t77RaEMiHVxfG0SovxAyHy1lcOqZ7BDYgeHImMjwdFx2tOhGHO1SUFPXU0TVutkRA_ZVPLSEOxg40FMFVz9_ttJF3YwH3yXGcHccANefR-IAi0dDMMOQbbSmsngq2CtnceIiSh4KZILSdSYNIcXluD3trXCAVLnXa9yn_izsL-HIEOEHs5THa3V-cE9pG2syz2lBVmqtcJ2loL34RvylwJUstakKM1a2vvpWxTJIgL6dCeKRv2q1sHWxd-SVczWDSdh6mlo0LKw0XJcaFGZk25uQuQ-XnoMby74z7sCxi6Gah5PanAF51jlPFV7eHk0ig82n_Kr_m=w323-h574-no)


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 29, 2016, 12:12:16 pm
I'm having a can of Heady Topper tonight with dinner. Canned the first week of August 2013. Wonder how it will taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 29, 2016, 12:14:51 pm
I'm having a can of on the wings of Armageddon tonight with dinner. I don't know when the hell it was canned or brewed and I don't really care.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 29, 2016, 12:15:43 pm
Headed out to Chicago this week. Hoping to bring home the best beer I can find in Columbus and Chicago not sold in DC, as well as some Zombie Dust from the source. Also planning on driving 2+ hours round trip to Kenosha, WI from Chicago so I can bring back some New Glarus and possibly Topping Goliath. My wife's not too happy with that decision....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 29, 2016, 12:16:15 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on July 29, 2016, 12:14:51 pm
I'm having a can of on the wings of Armageddon tonight with dinner. I don't know when the hell it was canned or brewed and I don't really care.

it will probably taste similar to space's three year old heady.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 29, 2016, 12:30:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 29, 2016, 12:16:15 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on July 29, 2016, 12:14:51 pm
I'm having a can of on the wings of Armageddon tonight with dinner. I don't know when the hell it was canned or brewed and I don't really care.

it will probably taste similar to space's three year old heady.

Thus, a notch above fresh Stone Enjoy By (your opinion).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 29, 2016, 12:34:47 pm
I thought the last enjoy by, was horrible
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 29, 2016, 12:41:23 pm
Has anybody tried the Enjoy AFTER? I've been sitting on one of those from the first batch they made.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 29, 2016, 09:52:41 pm
For Julian: Bell's Black Note seems to be hitting the market, at least up here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 29, 2016, 09:53:43 pm
For Yada: I know you're always raving about this band:

Rustico Ballston Aug 10:

THE OFFICIAL J. WAKEFIELD NOVA DEBUT LIST
J. Wakefield Hops 4 Teacher ? American IPA
J. Wakefield Ananas ? Pineapple Kölsch
J. Wakefield & All In Ronan The Strawberian ? Strawberry Rhubarb Berliner Weiss
J. Wakefield Have You Seen My Stapler? ? Rye Whiskey BA Tripel
J. Wakefield Campos De Fresas ? Strawberry Blond Ale
J. Wakefield El Jefe - Hefeweizen
J. Wakefield Great Scott!!! ? Scotch Ale
J. Wakefield I Think I'm French ? Bière de Garde
J. Wakefield UJP ? Smoked Porter
J. Wakefield Kentucky Battlecat ? Sour Mash California Common
J. Wakefield Colonel Klank Kottbusser ? Altbier w/ Oats, Wheat, Honey & Molasses
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 29, 2016, 10:30:45 pm
yeah, but no dfpf
Hops 4 Teacher and the I think I'm French were very good


These sound good
J. Wakefield & All In Ronan The Strawberian ? Strawberry Rhubarb Berliner Weiss
J. Wakefield Have You Seen My Stapler? ? Rye Whiskey BA Tripel
and the UJP

they are really great and interesting brewery and worth a trip to Ballston for this
and of course I'll be out of town until the 15th
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on July 30, 2016, 08:44:26 am
Tried DuClaw's Sour Me This yesterday.  It scratched the sour itch and the price is right.  Overall it was just okay though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2016, 09:00:00 am
I tried a Starr Hill IPA at jammin java last night


WTF with all these IPAs that taste like a frickin' grapefruit??? I do not like it.

If I want to eat a grapefruit or drink a grapefruit I will get a grapefruit thank you very much....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 30, 2016, 09:39:13 am
Tried Spencer Trappist Ale last night.  Good enough to have another.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 30, 2016, 09:52:04 am
Quote from: Michael Hutchence on July 30, 2016, 09:00:00 am
WTF with all these IPAs that taste like a frickin' grapefruit??? I do not like it.
yeah, I'm of the same opinion
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on July 30, 2016, 03:03:55 pm
try the habanero sculpin.  very, interesting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on July 30, 2016, 03:45:22 pm
Currently enjoying a Manor Hill hop yard series.  The new one just released.  It's a really nice ipa.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 30, 2016, 04:10:20 pm
Anxious to try one of these:

(http://www.dogfish.com/files/media/styles/beer_style/public/beer/DSC_6409.jpg?itok=ItZJam7E)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2016, 09:32:37 am
Made it out to Aslin on Saturday, sadly only 2 beers were on tap at 3pm
but The Gose w/ lime and raspberries was REALLY good
Party of one: Mike was also a delicious IPA
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13872883_718947174911374_1949532378265421883_n.jpg?oh=8356e1ca5fe9c6de0ab848ee51f2018e&oe=583037FB)


Also Made it to New District for the the debut of It's Never Too Late the Honey Suckel Hefeweizen (8.5%!)  w/ honey suckel's picked in Arlington!
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13873181_1049868708422410_6356652852227610262_n.jpg?oh=df327e5bb9498c3e61d0e0b361fcb0d3&oe=582CEBA1)
it was interesting, but not something I would say is worth the trip
They also had a "Sour test batch" which I thought was decent and has potential.  More tart than sour with a apple flavor
But unfortunately they still haven't really knocked one out of the park (The First Time: (imperial stout) and 1821 ( Saison / Farmhouse Ale ) are the two I think are worth going for)

Also Hit Mad Fox, wasn't really impressed with what I had there

besides the Gose, best beer of the weekend
(https://ithinkaboutbeer.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/saison-dupont.jpg?w=350&h=200&crop=1)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 01, 2016, 10:02:58 am
Quote from: medeski7 on July 30, 2016, 03:45:22 pm
Currently enjoying a Manor Hill hop yard series.  The new one just released.  It's a really nice ipa.

I've really been enjoying their stuff lately. Had their Grisette at Convivial and thought it was great, and I just recently had their Coffee Brown IPA at Urban Winery in DTSS (highly recommended, btw) which was also excellent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 01, 2016, 11:50:35 am
this #porchbomb definitely blew my $100 a week beer budget.  Uhaul had to drop this one off.


(https://s31.postimg.org/nbak6kcej/haul.jpg)


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 01, 2016, 11:59:25 am
tried ballast point barmy, and it was pretty good.  nice taste character to it and not too overpowering with it.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 01:52:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 01, 2016, 11:50:35 am
this #porchbomb definitely blew my $100 a week beer budget.  Uhaul had to drop this one off.


(https://s31.postimg.org/nbak6kcej/haul.jpg)


effing fucking hell.  tell me that this is being split with 5 other people... where the hell did you find someone who can score that much HF?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 01:56:34 pm
speaking of VT: i'll be there next week.  i'll have a case of Heady and "some" (a case?) of Sip of Sunshine waiting for me there.  in addition i might hit up the Alchemist and Lost Nation on my own, TBD.

in preparation/as penance i'll be going beer-free this week.  wish me luck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 01, 2016, 02:11:55 pm
Midwest beer tour day #3 today.

Saturday, we stopped at Seventh Son and Hoof Hearted in Columbus. Both had very good beer. The latter had a Hill Farmstead saison on guest tap.

Sunday, we went to the new-ish Lagunitas Brewery in Chicago. Only one word to describe it: massive. Impressive would be another good word. Nothing rare on tap, had a pint of Born Yesterday before the (excellent, funny) tour, and a pint of Sucks with my (very good) grilled veggie sandwich. My daughter proclaimed it tied with Ocelot as her favorite brewery. I'm guessing the long Willie Wonka hallway and gift shop that where she wanted everything influencrd her judgement.

Tonight, I might stop by Whole Foods and have a pint or two of Zombie Dust before heading to the Robbie Fulks' Cheap Trick tribute show.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 01, 2016, 02:24:15 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 01:52:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 01, 2016, 11:50:35 am
this #porchbomb definitely blew my $100 a week beer budget.  Uhaul had to drop this one off.


(https://s31.postimg.org/nbak6kcej/haul.jpg)


effing fucking hell.  tell me that this is being split with 5 other people... where the hell did you find someone who can score that much HF?


heh... i was just riling up the boardies. This isn't my haul... a pic from another beer forum, however, this is multiple dudes who went on a beer trip together.

Additionally, if you haven't been to HF ever or in recent years, you can basically buy as much as you'd like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 01, 2016, 02:25:01 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 01:56:34 pm
speaking of VT: i'll be there next week.  i'll have a case of Heady and "some" (a case?) of Sip of Sunshine waiting for me there.  in addition i might hit up the Alchemist and Lost Nation on my own, TBD.

in preparation/as penance i'll be going beer-free this week.  wish me luck.

Assuming you're in close proximity, you should scoop up some Focal Banger and Crusher at the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2016, 03:17:48 pm
oh.. Focal Banger and Crusher..

damn.. I like that name... but it makes me horny...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 03:40:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 01, 2016, 02:25:01 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 01:56:34 pm
speaking of VT: i'll be there next week.  i'll have a case of Heady and "some" (a case?) of Sip of Sunshine waiting for me there.  in addition i might hit up the Alchemist and Lost Nation on my own, TBD.

in preparation/as penance i'll be going beer-free this week.  wish me luck.

Assuming you're in close proximity, you should scoop up some Focal Banger and Crusher at the brewery.

that will depend on whether or not i make it out to the brewery.  it's about an 1:15-1:30 drive to get there, so this extended beer run would result in abandoning the family for a whole afternoon... hence, the TBD ;D

the case of heady and the sunshine will be waiting for me, so even if i don't make it to the brewery i'll be having a taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2016, 03:51:34 pm
I do not get the lengths of trouble people go to just to drink a beer...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 03:57:07 pm
if yuengling works for you, you should stick with it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 01, 2016, 07:19:56 pm
At a bar on Winchester.  Firestone Walker special taps.  Bretta Rose / Sucaba / Parabola / Anniversary / Stickee Monkee / Stivo / Nitro Oatmeal Merlin. 

Trying, them all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 01, 2016, 09:18:07 pm
Whoa....i've seen the light
Picked up some cans of Even More Jesus by evil twin
Could eat it with a fork...12% is hidden pretty well.  You feel the burn more than taste it
Chocolately with a little licorice and smoke
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2016, 09:42:18 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 03:57:07 pm
if yuengling works for you, you should stick with it. 

no.. I get bored of it... and i need to drink like 80 to get a buzz....its boring...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 11:00:35 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 01, 2016, 07:19:56 pm
At a bar on Winchester.  Firestone Walker special taps.  Bretta Rose / Sucaba / Parabola / Anniversary / Stickee Monkee / Stivo / Nitro Oatmeal Merlin. 

Trying, them all.

that's a ridiculous line-up.  note sure i could survive full pours of all of those... someone is going to have a headache in the morning.  but it will have been worth it ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 01, 2016, 11:23:30 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🐶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on August 01, 2016, 09:18:07 pm
Whoa....i've seen the light
Picked up some cans of Even More Jesus by evil twin
Could eat it with a fork...12% is hidden pretty well.  You feel the burn more than taste it
Chocolately with a little licorice and smoke

good, but not as good as imperial biscotti break
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 02, 2016, 10:36:36 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 11:00:35 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 01, 2016, 07:19:56 pm
At a bar on Winchester.  Firestone Walker special taps.  Bretta Rose / Sucaba / Parabola / Anniversary / Stickee Monkee / Stivo / Nitro Oatmeal Merlin. 

Trying, them all.

that's a ridiculous line-up.  note sure i could survive full pours of all of those... someone is going to have a headache in the morning.  but it will have been worth it ;D

Not full pours. I think they were 3.5 little glasses. You got to keep the glasses but I only took 2. I do not like heavy heavy dark beers so Parabola was the one I would rate the least but it did have interesting flavors to it at least.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 02, 2016, 11:08:42 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 01, 2016, 07:19:56 pm
At a bar on Winchester.  Firestone Walker special taps.  Bretta Rose / Sucaba / Parabola / Anniversary / Stickee Monkee / Stivo / Nitro Oatmeal Merlin. 

Trying, them all.

YSOA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 02, 2016, 12:01:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2016, 11:08:42 am
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 01, 2016, 07:19:56 pm
At a bar on Winchester.  Firestone Walker special taps.  Bretta Rose / Sucaba / Parabola / Anniversary / Stickee Monkee / Stivo / Nitro Oatmeal Merlin. 

Trying, them all.

YSOA.

Yale School of Architecture?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: radley17 on August 02, 2016, 12:49:39 pm
Another reliably good brewery turns to the dark side

http://www.atlantamagazine.com/drinks/terrapin-quietly-sold-big-beer-betrayed-fans/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 02, 2016, 01:35:31 pm
aslin is tapping How Now Brown Cow w/ Coffee & Maple (milk/sweet stout) This Thursday
Barmaid told us this was not to be missed...of course I'm going to miss it :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 02, 2016, 02:57:29 pm
Quote from: radley17 on August 02, 2016, 12:49:39 pm
Another reliably good brewery turns to the dark side

http://www.atlantamagazine.com/drinks/terrapin-quietly-sold-big-beer-betrayed-fans/

it's the way they went about it that really sucks: not saying anything, hoping the noise would go away... not only going to the dark side, but going dark.  it's cynical and sad.

terrapin is good, but not great, beer.  i've bought some in the past when it was the best thing available in a supermarket.  but i can't think of any terrapin beer that i seek out, pick up every time i see it, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 02, 2016, 03:25:41 pm
FFS what the hell is wrong with people.  This is the american dream.  Build a business based on your passion, do it for a couple of years, sell for a billion dollars.  Who here wouldn't do this?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 02, 2016, 03:26:45 pm
Quote from: I don't know why you call me gerald on August 02, 2016, 03:25:41 pm
FFS what the hell is wrong with people.  This is the american dream.  Build a business based on your passion, do it for a couple of years, sell for a billion dollars.  Who here wouldn't do this?
Yeah, this. When someone here turns down an 8-digit payday to make beer, they can start talking about "the dark side" or whatever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 02, 2016, 03:52:35 pm
Don't forget that thursday is #ipaday
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 02, 2016, 09:08:21 pm
Had Ocelot / Bluejacket Raised On Promises from a growler (arlbrew) and really enjoyed it

but as IPADAY approaches, I'm less and less excited by IPA's
How much of a beating can my tongue take
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 02, 2016, 09:32:55 pm
any suggestions on IPAs that don't taste liike a grapefruit? my palate has developed an intolerance for it..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 02, 2016, 09:36:07 pm
Quote from: Michael Hutchinson Jenks on August 02, 2016, 09:32:55 pm
any suggestions on IPAs that don't taste liike a grapefruit? my palate has developed an intolerance for it..
Um, Bells Two Hearted? (Or in a few weeks Oracle.) Founders Centennial. Dogfish 90minute.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 02, 2016, 09:39:57 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 02, 2016, 09:36:07 pm
Quote from: Michael Hutchinson Jenks on August 02, 2016, 09:32:55 pm
any suggestions on IPAs that don't taste liike a grapefruit? my palate has developed an intolerance for it..
Um, Bells Two Hearted? (Or in a few weeks Oracle.) Founders Centennial. Dogfish 90minute.

I don't like Dogfish 90 minute...there's something offputting about the aftertaste....

I will try Bells Two Hearted I guess....I think I've heard of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 02, 2016, 10:20:38 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🐶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on August 02, 2016, 01:35:31 pm
aslin is tapping How Now Brown Cow w/ Coffee & Maple (milk/sweet stout) This Thursday
Barmaid told us this was not to be missed...of course I'm going to miss it :(

My focus on Thursday would be the release of Mind the Hop, on IPA day no less.

But since I'm out of town I'll have to have an ipa or two at Three Floyds Brewpub Thursday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 02, 2016, 11:49:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 02, 2016, 10:20:38 pm
But since I'm out of town I'll have to have an ipa or two

you realize that's more than 6 ounces, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 02, 2016, 11:58:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2016, 11:49:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 02, 2016, 10:20:38 pm
But since I'm out of town I'll have to have an ipa or two

you realize that's more than 6 ounces, right?

ha ha i had the same thought but didn't want to be a wise ass...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 03, 2016, 07:16:24 am
Quote from: Michael Hutchinson Jenks on August 02, 2016, 11:58:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2016, 11:49:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 02, 2016, 10:20:38 pm
But since I'm out of town I'll have to have an ipa or two

you realize that's more than 6 ounces, right?

ha ha i had the same thought but didn't want to be a wise ass...
you didn't want to be a wise ass...!
feeling a little under the weather?
I think you should try Founders All Day IPA, it's somewhat available (safeway/Harris teeter have it)
two hearted is available and good, but I think might be a little richer than you are looking for

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 03, 2016, 07:28:58 am
Quote from: Sidehatch 🐶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on August 03, 2016, 07:16:24 am
Quote from: Michael Hutchinson Jenks on August 02, 2016, 11:58:20 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2016, 11:49:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 02, 2016, 10:20:38 pm
But since I'm out of town I'll have to have an ipa or two

you realize that's more than 6 ounces, right?

ha ha i had the same thought but didn't want to be a wise ass...
you didn't want to be a wise ass...!
feeling a little under the weather?
I think you should try Founders All Day IPA, it's somewhat available (safeway/Harris teeter have it)
two hearted is available and good, but I think might be a little richer than you are looking for



Good call on the Founders All Day more so that Two Hearted. Lagunitas Daytime or Stone Go To would also fit the bill imo.

I could probably handle more than six ounces of those, even when I'm not on vacation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 03, 2016, 07:33:23 am
I bought a six pack of lagunitas at CVS yesterday....

i will look into Founders.. maybe at the new Harris Teeter in Falls Church..

I got to say I'm not a huge Harris Teeter fan...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 03, 2016, 09:16:47 am
All Day IPA is good (and comes in a 15 pack) if you don't like super-high ABV IPAs. I would second that recommendation as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 03, 2016, 09:36:23 am
^take that reco with a grain of salt* as he only recognizes beer from MI or RVA as being drinkable


*that grain should also be escalated from Detroit's famous salt mine (https://www.sott.net/article/292524-The-giant-salt-mine-1200-feet-beneath-Detroit-Michigan)
which I visited and was actually very cool (literally too)


edit...just read public tours have not been conducted since the 1980s.
well got in there just in time I guess
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2016, 09:49:36 am
I'd recommend any one of these IPAs for IPADAY or break the rules and have a pale ale. All delicious, all fruity and light. #mulebomb and for those keeping score, $115... This one is all mine sidehutch. :0)

(https://s32.postimg.org/gmrg6ke1x/20160802_120026.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 03, 2016, 10:11:07 am
Quote from: Sidehatch 🐶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on August 03, 2016, 09:36:23 am
^take that reco with a grain of salt* as he only recognizes beer from MI or RVA as being drinkable
So, you recommend something, I second your recommendation, and then you come back and denigrate your own recommendation because JULIAN.

This board is amazing sometimes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2016, 10:21:23 am
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 10:11:07 am
Quote from: Sidehatch 🐶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on August 03, 2016, 09:36:23 am
^take that reco with a grain of salt* as he only recognizes beer from MI or RVA as being drinkable
So, you recommend something, I second your recommendation, and then you come back and denigrate your own recommendation because JULIAN.

This board is amazing sometimes.

No offense Jules, but your IPA recs would've been awesome circa 2005.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 03, 2016, 10:42:00 am
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2016, 10:21:23 am
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 10:11:07 am
Quote from: Sidehatch 🐶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on August 03, 2016, 09:36:23 am
^take that reco with a grain of salt* as he only recognizes beer from MI or RVA as being drinkable
So, you recommend something, I second your recommendation, and then you come back and denigrate your own recommendation because JULIAN.

This board is amazing sometimes.

No offense Jules, but your IPA recs would've been awesome circa 2005.
As GGW was always astute to point out: Julian's America does advocate an old-world view of success. It's basically stuck in 1989.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2016, 10:46:02 am
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 10:42:00 am
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2016, 10:21:23 am
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 10:11:07 am
Quote from: Sidehatch 🐶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on August 03, 2016, 09:36:23 am
^take that reco with a grain of salt* as he only recognizes beer from MI or RVA as being drinkable
So, you recommend something, I second your recommendation, and then you come back and denigrate your own recommendation because JULIAN.

This board is amazing sometimes.

No offense Jules, but your IPA recs would've been awesome circa 2005.
As GGW was always astute to point out: Julian's America does advocate an old-world view of success. It's basically stuck in 1989.

RIP GGW.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 03, 2016, 10:56:58 am
#becauseJULIAN
might have to put that one in the band name thread
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2016, 03:44:02 pm
well sheeeeeeeeeeeeet....guys like sidehop need not apply since he doesn't like IPAs.

We pleased to announce our first annual Forever Summer Fest(a celebration of all things hoppy) on Saturday August 27th! 🙌🏼 All of the proceeds will be going to a local non-profit. This will be a ticketed event. 2 sessions. Very low ticket counts so every guest can enjoy all of the beers at the festival in a relaxed setting. More info regarding ticket sales and other details coming soon. We are extremely honored to host our good friends Other Half Brewing Company, Suarez Family Brewery, Oxbow Brewing Company, Tired Hands Brewing Company, Bissell Brothers, Trillium Brewing Company, Lawson's Finest Liquids, Ocelot Brewing Company, The Answer Brewpub, Cycle Brewing, Monkish Brewing Co., Threes Brewing, and Commonwealth Brewing Company. Stay tuned! 😎 ‪#‎vabeer‬ ‪#‎rvabeer‬ ‪#‎rva‬ ‪#‎scottsaddition‬

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13932706_1056797444404436_3452226917903426785_n.jpg?oh=7bc1b51f53033170f27425f6036ff681&oe=582B1BAF)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 03, 2016, 03:47:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2016, 03:44:02 pm
well sheeeeeeeeeeeeet....guys like sidehop need not apply since he doesn't like IPAs.

We pleased to announce our first annual Forever Summer Fest(a celebration of all things hoppy) on Saturday August 27th! 🙌🏼 All of the proceeds will be going to a local non-profit. This will be a ticketed event. 2 sessions. Very low ticket counts so every guest can enjoy all of the beers at the festival in a relaxed setting. More info regarding ticket sales and other details coming soon. We are extremely honored to host our good friends Other Half Brewing Company, Suarez Family Brewery, Oxbow Brewing Company, Tired Hands Brewing Company, Bissell Brothers, Trillium Brewing Company, Lawson's Finest Liquids, Ocelot Brewing Company, The Answer Brewpub, Cycle Brewing, Monkish Brewing Co., Threes Brewing, and Commonwealth Brewing Company. Stay tuned! 😎 ‪#‎vabeer‬ ‪#‎rvabeer‬ ‪#‎rva‬ ‪#‎scottsaddition‬
I'm guessing its The Veil doing that?

EDIT: You added a picture which answered my question.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2016, 03:48:23 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 03:47:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2016, 03:44:02 pm
well sheeeeeeeeeeeeet....guys like sidehop need not apply since he doesn't like IPAs.

We pleased to announce our first annual Forever Summer Fest(a celebration of all things hoppy) on Saturday August 27th! 🙌🏼 All of the proceeds will be going to a local non-profit. This will be a ticketed event. 2 sessions. Very low ticket counts so every guest can enjoy all of the beers at the festival in a relaxed setting. More info regarding ticket sales and other details coming soon. We are extremely honored to host our good friends Other Half Brewing Company, Suarez Family Brewery, Oxbow Brewing Company, Tired Hands Brewing Company, Bissell Brothers, Trillium Brewing Company, Lawson's Finest Liquids, Ocelot Brewing Company, The Answer Brewpub, Cycle Brewing, Monkish Brewing Co., Threes Brewing, and Commonwealth Brewing Company. Stay tuned! 😎 ‪#‎vabeer‬ ‪#‎rvabeer‬ ‪#‎rva‬ ‪#‎scottsaddition‬
I'm guessing its The Veil doing that?

yessir... with a pretty darn unbelievable line up in terms of hoppy brewers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 03, 2016, 03:49:18 pm
Hmm, last weekend before football. I have liked the few beers of theirs I've gotten to try. Depending on price I might go to that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2016, 03:54:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 03:49:18 pm
Hmm, last weekend before football. I have liked the few beers of theirs I've gotten to try. Depending on price I might go to that.

Space and hutch are most likely going to need to crash on your couch, i hope that's ok.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 03, 2016, 04:01:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2016, 03:54:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 03:49:18 pm
Hmm, last weekend before football. I have liked the few beers of theirs I've gotten to try. Depending on price I might go to that.

Space and hutch are most likely going to need to crash on your couch, i hope that's ok.
The guest bed is a queen. They can hash out the sleeping arrangements on their own. . .
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 03, 2016, 04:26:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2016, 03:54:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 03:49:18 pm
Hmm, last weekend before football. I have liked the few beers of theirs I've gotten to try. Depending on price I might go to that.

Space and hutch are most likely going to need to crash on your couch, i hope that's ok.

It does sound pretty neat. But I'll be in Jackson Hole that weekend. Drinking at many Melvin 2x4's as possible. Six ounces at a time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 03, 2016, 04:53:36 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 04:01:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2016, 03:54:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 03, 2016, 03:49:18 pm
Hmm, last weekend before football. I have liked the few beers of theirs I've gotten to try. Depending on price I might go to that.

Space and hutch are most likely going to need to crash on your couch, i hope that's ok.
The guest bed is a queen. They can hash out the sleeping arrangements on their own. . .


well thank you..its nice to know that is an option....a place to lay my weary drunken head is always welcome...

I hardly ever make it to Richmond any more.. it has been like 3 years or so.....very strange...since I went to Dylan at the Mosque which was great.... what freaked me out is I went to the Third Street Diner or whatever beforehand and it had changed ownership and was a total shithole.. that place was so great back in the day I have such fond memories.... anyways..it kind of sucked cause i had hyped it up to my friend who I went to the show with..

It is rare that Richmond gets a show that is a must see that I can't see in DC....which is a shame..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 03, 2016, 05:26:25 pm
I'm headed to Portland, Spokane, Coeur d'Alene and Seattle for the next few days.

They sell the High Life, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 03, 2016, 07:14:00 pm
Target has finally gotten an ok to somewhat decent, beer selection. Fas,cinating.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 03, 2016, 07:49:22 pm
Quote from: walk,on,by on August 03, 2016, 07:14:00 pm
Target has finally gotten an ok to somewhat decent, beer selection. Fas,cinating.
Agreed, picked up a Stone mix 12 pack there
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 03, 2016, 08:26:13 pm
oh...targay...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 04, 2016, 11:43:50 am
One less brewpub in Rockville.

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/Web-2016/Suspended-Brewing-Company-Exits-Rockville-After-Encountering-Permitting-and-Zoning-Issues/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 04, 2016, 02:18:47 pm
Split a crowler of Johann The Mango Thief from Aslin last night.... holy shite, straight up juice... If you like that style of IPA, doesn't get much better!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on August 04, 2016, 03:02:12 pm
All Day IPA on a beach in Maine.  Can't beat it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 04, 2016, 03:14:25 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on August 04, 2016, 03:02:12 pm
All Day IPA on a beach in Maine.  Can't beat it.
Yada has some thoughts on your dated IPAs, bro.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 04, 2016, 03:17:53 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 04, 2016, 03:14:25 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on August 04, 2016, 03:02:12 pm
All Day IPA on a beach in Maine.  Can't beat it.
Yada has some thoughts on your dated IPAs, bro.

No... much better recommendation than 90 min IPA and Two Hearted.

I may need to crash on your couch with space and hutch for that IPA festie though. I'm thinking:

Lockn Friday night for Phish and Ween (you'd love it) >>>> IPA fest on Friday. I LIKE IT!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 04, 2016, 03:24:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 04, 2016, 03:17:53 pm
I may need to crash on your couch with space and hutch for that IPA festie though. I'm thinking:

Lockn Friday night for Phish and Ween (you'd love it) >>>> IPA fest on Friday. I LIKE IT!
I will pass on Lockn but I have a queen-sized bed in the guest room and the three of you can decide who sleeps in the middle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on August 04, 2016, 04:06:26 pm
Quote from: Bagley on July 27, 2016, 04:42:11 pm
Anyone try the Southern Tier Cherry Gose?  They call it an Imperial Sour Ale (8.3%)

4 pack acquired. Will give it a try this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 04, 2016, 04:08:29 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on August 04, 2016, 04:06:26 pm
Quote from: Bagley on July 27, 2016, 04:42:11 pm
Anyone try the Southern Tier Cherry Gose?  They call it an Imperial Sour Ale (8.3%)

4 pack acquired. Will give it a try this weekend.

I tried one last weekend... pretty good, not as good as Victory but still tasty nonetheless. I'd prefer it to be about half the abv.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 04, 2016, 04:15:38 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch 🐶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 👻 on August 02, 2016, 03:52:35 pm
Don't forget that thursday is #ipaday

on deck for me tonight: having a first taste og an IPA i bottled last friday.  might not be 100% carb'ed by the day demands it.  hops: el dorado, pekko, mosaic and equinox.  specialty malt: caramel rye.  all these ingredients obtained at the national homebrewers conference in baltimore and were free/comp'ed/samples, save for the el dorado (which were 40% less than typical retail).

will also have my first taste of the other half of the batch, a dry-hopped belgian (rye) pale ale bottle conditioned with some weird very raw sugars from mexico.  the sugars created a lot of sediment in the bottle.  could be great, could be just weird.  TBD.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 04, 2016, 04:31:05 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on August 04, 2016, 04:06:26 pm
Quote from: Bagley on July 27, 2016, 04:42:11 pm
Anyone try the Southern Tier Cherry Gose?  They call it an Imperial Sour Ale (8.3%)

4 pack acquired. Will give it a try this weekend.
I'll be at the Brewery next week and I'll tell you how it tastes direct from the source

As you all know Southern Tier and Victory are now the same company
so they may be trading notes on the Gose
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 04, 2016, 04:35:21 pm
jez...4:30 pm on a thursday and the Mind The Hop crowlers are already sold out
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on August 05, 2016, 02:17:41 am
Quote from: SideofBacon |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 04, 2016, 04:35:21 pm
jez...4:30 pm on a thursday and the Mind The Hop crowlers are already sold out

Did they still have that gose?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 05, 2016, 07:31:04 am
Quote from: Unsanity on August 05, 2016, 02:17:41 am
Quote from: SideofBacon |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 04, 2016, 04:35:21 pm
jez...4:30 pm on a thursday and the Mind The Hop crowlers are already sold out

Did they still have that gose?
this was based on a facebook post, not an actual visit
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 05, 2016, 08:10:05 am
i bought a six pack of dogfish..the standard one... i guess i like it better now.. unless i can't taste a frickin' grapefruit when i drink it...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on August 08, 2016, 11:38:26 am
I have to be in Richmond for work in mid-September.  I'm thinking of stopping by the Veil, it would be on a Wednesday night.  Does anyone know if they normally have some cans to sell on a given week?  I'll try to sample at the bar regardless, but I'd prefer to take some home.  Any input is appreciated.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 08, 2016, 11:44:33 am
Quote from: medeski7 on August 08, 2016, 11:38:26 am
I have to be in Richmond for work in mid-September.  I'm thinking of stopping by the Veil, it would be on a Wednesday night.  Does anyone know if they normally have some cans to sell on a given week?  I'll try to sample at the bar regardless, but I'd prefer to take some home.  Any input is appreciated.
They release that week's beers (usually 2 or 3) on Tuesdays. They've gotten to the point where cans are generally still available for sale Wednesday or Thursday but not usually later than that. If they're debuting something completely new or one of their more rare varietals, that will usually be what sells out quickest and that *might* all go on Tuesday but I'd feel pretty confident you'd be able to get at least 2 of the 3 for that week on Wednesday still. Obviously you probably want to try to get there earlier than later on that Wednesday.

Their facebook does a pretty good job of telling you what's coming out that week and giving daily updates of what they have left and how many.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on August 08, 2016, 12:05:34 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 08, 2016, 11:44:33 am
Quote from: medeski7 on August 08, 2016, 11:38:26 am
I have to be in Richmond for work in mid-September.  I'm thinking of stopping by the Veil, it would be on a Wednesday night.  Does anyone know if they normally have some cans to sell on a given week?  I'll try to sample at the bar regardless, but I'd prefer to take some home.  Any input is appreciated.
They release that week's beers (usually 2 or 3) on Tuesdays. They've gotten to the point where cans are generally still available for sale Wednesday or Thursday but not usually later than that. If they're debuting something completely new or one of their more rare varietals, that will usually be what sells out quickest and that *might* all go on Tuesday but I'd feel pretty confident you'd be able to get at least 2 of the 3 for that week on Wednesday still. Obviously you probably want to try to get there earlier than later on that Wednesday.

Their facebook does a pretty good job of telling you what's coming out that week and giving daily updates of what they have left and how many.

Nice, thanks for the heads up.  Hopefully I can leave a little early from the office Wednesday so I'm not showing up close to closing time that evening.  I'm hoping to hit The Answer that night as well. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 08, 2016, 02:27:57 pm
I found out the Beer Garden carries Natty Boh (probably only once in a while..)... so I'm happy...my beer can has a baseball catcher on it and the number 12....its not made in Baltimore anymore I believe...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 10, 2016, 02:54:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2016, 03:44:02 pm
well sheeeeeeeeeeeeet....guys like sidehop need not apply since he doesn't like IPAs.

We pleased to announce our first annual Forever Summer Fest(a celebration of all things hoppy) on Saturday August 27th! 🙌🏼 All of the proceeds will be going to a local non-profit. This will be a ticketed event. 2 sessions. Very low ticket counts so every guest can enjoy all of the beers at the festival in a relaxed setting. More info regarding ticket sales and other details coming soon. We are extremely honored to host our good friends Other Half Brewing Company, Suarez Family Brewery, Oxbow Brewing Company, Tired Hands Brewing Company, Bissell Brothers, Trillium Brewing Company, Lawson's Finest Liquids, Ocelot Brewing Company, The Answer Brewpub, Cycle Brewing, Monkish Brewing Co., Threes Brewing, and Commonwealth Brewing Company. Stay tuned! 😎 ‪#‎vabeer‬ ‪#‎rvabeer‬ ‪#‎rva‬ ‪#‎scottsaddition‬

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13932706_1056797444404436_3452226917903426785_n.jpg?oh=7bc1b51f53033170f27425f6036ff681&oe=582B1BAF)
Looks like this is getting capped at 300 people (2 150-person groups with 3-hour windows) and requires advance ticketing which will only be for sale at brewery. If anyone is planning on coming down for this, I will offer to pick up tickets for any regulars (assuming I do not have to stand in line for hours to get them).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 11, 2016, 06:27:59 pm
Drinking a Bells Black Note Stout 2016 right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 11, 2016, 08:36:35 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 11, 2016, 06:27:59 pm
Drinking a Bells Black Note Stout 2016 right now.

How does it compare to other bourbon aged stouts, say Founders KBS for instance?

I have one single bottle I've been sitting on for a couple of years, I'll probably crack it once the weather gets cooler.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 11, 2016, 08:39:25 pm
I'm on vacation, managed to get crowlers of the DIPA and Weissbier today at Aslin, as well as an eight ounce pour of each. Got the crowlers within 40 minutes of arrival...no something I'll do very often, but glad i did it this once...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 11, 2016, 09:54:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 11, 2016, 08:39:25 pm
I'm on vacation, managed to get crowlers of the DIPA and Weissbier today at Aslin, as well as an eight ounce pour of each. Got the crowlers within 40 minutes of arrival...no something I'll do very often, but glad i did it this once...

^a scream for help
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 11, 2016, 10:54:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 11, 2016, 08:36:35 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 11, 2016, 06:27:59 pm
Drinking a Bells Black Note Stout 2016 right now.

How does it compare to other bourbon aged stouts, say Founders KBS for instance?

I have one single bottle I've been sitting on for a couple of years, I'll probably crack it once the weather gets cooler.
It tasted, I guess the best way I can explain it, "darker" or "thicker" than KBS. VERY similar to the bells expedition stout but maybe a little more "coffee creamer"-y than that. Less bourbons than KBS but still obviously super strong. Felt like a meal on its own. A second one (especially at $17/per) was probably a poor decision.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 12, 2016, 08:44:04 am
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 11, 2016, 10:54:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 11, 2016, 08:36:35 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 11, 2016, 06:27:59 pm
Drinking a Bells Black Note Stout 2016 right now.

How does it compare to other bourbon aged stouts, say Founders KBS for instance?

I have one single bottle I've been sitting on for a couple of years, I'll probably crack it once the weather gets cooler.
It tasted, I guess the best way I can explain it, "darker" or "thicker" than KBS. VERY similar to the bells expedition stout but maybe a little more "coffee creamer"-y than that. Less bourbons than KBS but still obviously super strong. Felt like a meal on its own. A second one (especially at $17/per) was probably a poor decision.

$17 per bottle?? I can hear Space shitting himself from here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 12, 2016, 09:09:49 am
Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2016, 08:44:04 am
$17 per bottle?? I can hear Space shitting himself from here.
He can take solace that that was the happy hour price and after 7pm it would've been $18.50.

If I had the choice between a 6 pack of Expedition Stout at $18.99 or a four-pack of this at $24.99 (which appears to be the MSRP), I would take the Expedition Stout. I didn't think it was *that* much different/better. I sort of felt indebted to try it when the owner texted me specifically that it had come in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 12, 2016, 09:59:43 am
Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2016, 08:44:04 am
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 11, 2016, 10:54:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 11, 2016, 08:36:35 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 11, 2016, 06:27:59 pm
Drinking a Bells Black Note Stout 2016 right now.

How does it compare to other bourbon aged stouts, say Founders KBS for instance?

I have one single bottle I've been sitting on for a couple of years, I'll probably crack it once the weather gets cooler.
It tasted, I guess the best way I can explain it, "darker" or "thicker" than KBS. VERY similar to the bells expedition stout but maybe a little more "coffee creamer"-y than that. Less bourbons than KBS but still obviously super strong. Felt like a meal on its own. A second one (especially at $17/per) was probably a poor decision.

$17 per bottle?? I can hear Space shitting himself from here.

As long as he wasn't spending my money, it's all good.  ;)

I'm still trying to wrap my wallet around the fact that I spent more for three crowlers from Aslin yesterday than I did for a case of Zombie Dust at Three Floyds last week. And one of the crowlers is a 3.8%  berlinerweisse.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 12, 2016, 10:25:06 am
 

Julian, glad to see your active participation in this here, thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 12, 2016, 10:41:34 am
Quote from: Yada on August 12, 2016, 10:25:06 am


Julian, glad to see your active participation in this here, thread.
I do, what, I can. I reach, across, the aisle. I'm a uniter, not a, divider.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2016, 01:13:37 pm
as long as that reach is for MI or RVA

I will have you know I thought of you Jules when I saw these today biking aroung
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/058/0/10273657/il_570xN.739065915_7p0x.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 12, 2016, 01:19:23 pm
Quote from: SideofBacon |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 12, 2016, 01:13:37 pm
as long as that reach is for MI or RVA

I will have you know I thought of you Jules when I saw these today biking aroung
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/058/0/10273657/il_570xN.739065915_7p0x.jpg)
Those would look lovely on my deck.

EDIT: $700 for those is a ridiculous price. Would majorly cut into my drinking $17 beers for you guys' benefit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on August 12, 2016, 01:31:42 pm
Zwanze Day at the Sovereign this year.

Quote
Doors, Cantillon Drafts & Zwanze Tasting Tickets at 12 pm. Zwanze Pours at 3pm

The Sovereign is incredibly honored to host Cantillon's Zwanze Day for the first time ever in 2016. The privilege of pouring their Zwanze blend each year is bestowed upon fewer than 60 locations across the entire globe. Our sister bar ChurchKey has had the distinct pleasure of hosting this event for the last 5 years and we couldn't be more excited to carry the torch on October 1st. We'll be opening the bar and restaurant at 12 PM for customers and along with the other participating bars we'll be tapping the Zwanze keg at 3 PM sharp.

This year's Zwanze offering is going to be a throwback to the Framboise Cantillon was producing until about 30 years ago. As the name implies, it was a lambic aged on raspberries, but back in the eighties they used fresh fruit that lost its color quickly and often made filtration difficult, so cherries were also used to help maintain some rosiness and to act as a secondary filter bed beneath the raspberries. Vanilla was also added to round out the flavor of the offering. With modern flash-freezing techniques helping to maintain color and consistency, Cantillon began producing Rosé de Gambrinus with 100% raspberries in the middle of the 1980s as well. This will be the first raspberry/cherry blend they've done since 1986, and definitely the only Cantillon lambic to incorporate vanilla since then.

Though we will not be officially pouring Zwanze 2016 until 3 PM--as we share in a worldwide toast with all of the other Zwanze Day breweries, bars and bottle shops--we will be preselling tickets for pours of Zwanze 2016 right when we open at 12PM. Do try to get to The Sovereign as close to our opening time as possible; we anticipate huge crowds and want to be sure that the first to arrive get to taste Zwanze 2016. All those with Zwanze 2016 tickets will get to taste this delicious rarity once the keg is tapped at 3PM. Additionally, all other Cantillon drafts will be available for purchase right when we open at 12PM for Zwanze Day.

Cantillon Zwanze Day 2016 Draft List (so far...):
Cantillon Zwanze 2016 (Tasting tickets begin selling at 12pm; Zwanze 2016 tapping at 3pm)
Cantillon Gueuze 100% Lambic (Available at 12pm)
Cantillon Kriek (Available at 12pm)
Cantillon Mamouche (Available at 12pm)
Cantillon Iris Grand Cru (Available at 12pm)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 15, 2016, 11:09:04 am
Made it to Fair Winds Brewing for the first time yesterday. 10 minutes from my house, then another 10 minutes to the dump.

Not as good as Aslin, or Ocelot. Still, very good beer. Perhaps the best session IPA I've had, period. Hitch, you should try it.


Aslin: $14/32 ounce crowler, 40 minute drive, 40 minute wait in line to buy take home beer.

Fair Winds: $3.75/32 ounce growler (half off growler fill, Weds only), 10 min drive, no lines.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: imbecile on August 15, 2016, 11:53:08 am
I'll be in Indianapolis for a conference next week.  Anyone have bar/brewery references or a few "must try" beers off the top of their head?

I've never been to Indiana and don't know their beer scene at all, aside from to try anything i see from Three Floyds.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 15, 2016, 12:03:09 pm
Anybody know where to pick up Lone Star beer? Seems like the closest place is 200 miles away!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 15, 2016, 12:30:33 pm
Quote from: imbecile on August 15, 2016, 11:53:08 am
I'll be in Indianapolis for a conference next week.  Anyone have bar/brewery references or a few "must try" beers off the top of their head?

I've never been to Indiana and don't know their beer scene at all, aside from to try anything i see from Three Floyds.

The only Indy beer I've had was Sun King, which was pretty good. Looks like there may be some that are even better:

https://www.beeradvocate.com/place/list/?&c_id=US&s_id=IN&city=Indianapolis&sort=name&sort=avgbeers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 15, 2016, 12:45:12 pm
Quote from: Michael Hutchinson Jenks on August 15, 2016, 12:03:09 pm
Anybody know where to pick up Lone Star beer? Seems like the closest place is 200 miles away!

I'd recommend getting yourself a case of High Life bottles.

No lines, available everywhere, and roughly 10 cents an ounce. Big fan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 15, 2016, 12:50:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 15, 2016, 12:45:12 pm
Quote from: Michael Hutchinson Jenks on August 15, 2016, 12:03:09 pm
Anybody know where to pick up Lone Star beer? Seems like the closest place is 200 miles away!

I'd recommend getting yourself a case of High Life bottles.

No lines, available everywhere, and roughly 10 cents an ounce. Big fan.

oh yah I drink that...big fan... although my local Rite Aid no longer carries it


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walk,on,by on August 15, 2016, 04:21:55 pm
people that buy beer at rite aid . . . are the fucking, best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 15, 2016, 04:32:42 pm
I honestly didn't even realize pharmacies sell beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 15, 2016, 04:35:34 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 15, 2016, 04:32:42 pm
I honestly didn't even realize pharmacies sell beer.

A few months back in NYC I purchased a Coors Original 24oz can in a Rite Aid. Big fan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 15, 2016, 04:46:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 15, 2016, 04:35:34 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 15, 2016, 04:32:42 pm
I honestly didn't even realize pharmacies sell beer.

A few months back in NYC I purchased a Coors Original 24oz can in a Rite Aid. Big fan.
And you didn't report said purchase to this thread immediately? This is how a community falls apart. . .
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 15, 2016, 06:12:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 15, 2016, 04:35:34 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 15, 2016, 04:32:42 pm
I honestly didn't even realize pharmacies sell beer.

A few months back in NYC I purchased a Coors Original 24oz can in a Rite Aid. Big fan.

I once toured the Coors plant in Golden, Colorado and drank free Coors. Probably wasn't worth the price of gas and the vacation time commitment it cost. Hangs head in shame.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 17, 2016, 11:13:17 am
I wonder how this will impact the Space Ounce Ratio.

http://craftbeernation.org/blog/aslin-beer-expansion-plans/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 17, 2016, 02:21:38 pm
Interesting perspective from one of the "sell outs."

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2016/08/16/breckenridge-brewery-owner-opens-up-about-life.html?ana=fbk

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 17, 2016, 02:24:23 pm
Somehow i never had Rogue Farms 7 Hop IPA until last night.  Tasty 1.5 IPA.  Would drink it again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 17, 2016, 03:08:13 pm
https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beers/super-session-ipa/

I had this a while back at this cool little bar in Lancaster. Had I known it was so difficult to get, I would have had more than 2. It was delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 17, 2016, 09:43:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 17, 2016, 02:21:38 pm
Interesting perspective from one of the "sell outs."

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2016/08/16/breckenridge-brewery-owner-opens-up-about-life.html?ana=fbk

i'm not surprised to learn that the Big Boys are hands-off an supportive of their craft-segment acquisitions.  goose island provided the model of what happens when you let a craft brewery continue to do its thing with some additional corporate support (infected BCBS scandal notwithstanding...)

my big fear is at the corporate level, far above the heads of the craft brewers.  Big Beers has been trying to muscle craft beer off the shelf, but retailers have had an obvious reason why they can't dump craft beer: it sells, and the Big Boys don't have anything to offer in its place.  a retailer isn't going to drop a sure seller just because Bud wants its shelf space.  so now, with these acquisitions, Big Beer can tell the retailer to abandon the little local breweries since they now have their own line of "craft" beer.

i'm still not a fan of these acquisitions.  it's (most likely) good for the craft brewery that is bought, but it's not good for the industry overall.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 17, 2016, 09:45:00 pm
in other news:

sip of sunshine > heady topper, at least right now.  given how much HT changes, this assessment is subject to change.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 17, 2016, 09:51:05 pm
Quote from: I don't know why you call me gerald on August 17, 2016, 02:24:23 pm
Somehow i never had Rogue Farms 7 Hop IPA until last night.  Tasty 1.5 IPA.  Would drink it again.

That's a brewery I tend to avoid.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 17, 2016, 10:11:49 pm
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery....what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 17, 2016, 10:24:53 pm
Quote from: SideBoognish |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2016, 10:11:49 pm
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery....what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal


Does it have to be in Philly proper? If not, Tired Hands in Ardmore is the obvious choice. I prefer the original cafe to the fermentaria.

Earth, Bread, and Brew is great, and closer in. The same guy opened a new place even closer in. Haven't been yet myself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 17, 2016, 10:48:07 pm
Quote from: SideBoognish |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2016, 10:11:49 pm
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery....what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal


Philly is just not known for good beer.. Baltimore has Nattyboh... MIlwaukee has Miller.. St Louis Budweiser... Colorado has Coors.. but Philly? Butkus...

Your best bet is probably a roadtrip to Pottsville, PA which is less than 100 miles from Philly...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 17, 2016, 11:08:08 pm
Quote from: The Hutch Award on August 17, 2016, 10:48:07 pm
Quote from: SideBoognish |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2016, 10:11:49 pm
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery....what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal


Philly is just not known for good beer.. Baltimore has Nattyboh... MIlwaukee has Miller.. St Louis Budweiser... Colorado has Coors.. but Philly? Butkus...

Your best bet is probably a roadtrip to Pottsville, PA which is less than 100 miles from Philly...

Troll
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 17, 2016, 11:17:21 pm
Quote from: SideBoognish |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2016, 10:11:49 pm
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery....what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal


My one experience at Monk's...I found it loud and unpleasant. Also, our server was downright rude..,ymmv.

As far as Belgian beer bars go in Philly, Eulogy was better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 18, 2016, 09:08:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 17, 2016, 09:51:05 pm
Quote from: I don't know why you call me gerald on August 17, 2016, 02:24:23 pm
Somehow i never had Rogue Farms 7 Hop IPA until last night.  Tasty 1.5 IPA.  Would drink it again.

That's a brewery I tend to avoid.

Me too - that's what made this a bit of a surprise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 18, 2016, 09:42:55 am
Quote from: SideBoognish |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2016, 10:11:49 pm
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery....what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal


Space hit the nail on the head in terms of brewery. Can't go wrong with Tired Hands but if you're driving all over the place, kind of takes away the fun IMO, especially if you've already driven three hours. Eulogy is about 100 yards from Penns Landing where the show is, however, I'm sure will be packed to the gills.

I'd recommend finding the nearest dive bar, ripping a few shots of Jamison, suckin' back a high life or two, puff a one-y and enjoy the day!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 18, 2016, 09:49:17 am
Quote from: Yada on August 18, 2016, 09:42:55 am
I'd recommend finding the nearest dive bar, ripping a few shots of Jamison, suckin' back a high life or two, puff a one-y and enjoy the day!
I am aware that a one-y is colloquial slang for a small smoking pipe that delivers approximately one lungful of smoke per loaded bowl.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 18, 2016, 09:56:50 am
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 18, 2016, 09:49:17 am
Quote from: Yada on August 18, 2016, 09:42:55 am
I'd recommend finding the nearest dive bar, ripping a few shots of Jamison, suckin' back a high life or two, puff a one-y and enjoy the day!
I am aware that a one-y is colloquial slang for a small smoking pipe that delivers approximately one lungful of smoke per loaded bowl.

Close enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 18, 2016, 10:20:26 am
Quote from: Yada on August 18, 2016, 09:42:55 am
Quote from: SideBoognish |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2016, 10:11:49 pm
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery....what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal


Space hit the nail on the head in terms of brewery. Can't go wrong with Tired Hands but if you're driving all over the place, kind of takes away the fun IMO, especially if you've already driven three hours. Eulogy is about 100 yards from Penns Landing where the show is, however, I'm sure will be packed to the gills.

I'd recommend finding the nearest dive bar, ripping a few shots of Jamison, suckin' back a high life or two, puff a one-y and enjoy the day!


YES! This is almost my credo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 18, 2016, 10:50:51 am
Quote from: The Hutch Award on August 18, 2016, 10:20:26 am
Quote from: Yada on August 18, 2016, 09:42:55 am
Quote from: SideBoognish |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2016, 10:11:49 pm
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery....what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal


Space hit the nail on the head in terms of brewery. Can't go wrong with Tired Hands but if you're driving all over the place, kind of takes away the fun IMO, especially if you've already driven three hours. Eulogy is about 100 yards from Penns Landing where the show is, however, I'm sure will be packed to the gills.

I'd recommend finding the nearest dive bar, ripping a few shots of Jamison, suckin' back a high life or two, puff a one-y and enjoy the day!


YES! This is almost my credo.

(http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/psych-shawn-gus-fist-bumps.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 18, 2016, 01:01:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 17, 2016, 11:08:08 pm
Quote from: The Hutch Award on August 17, 2016, 10:48:07 pm
Quote from: SideBoognish |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| on August 17, 2016, 10:11:49 pm
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery....what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal


Philly is just not known for good beer.. Baltimore has Nattyboh... MIlwaukee has Miller.. St Louis Budweiser... Colorado has Coors.. but Philly? Butkus...

Your best bet is probably a roadtrip to Pottsville, PA which is less than 100 miles from Philly...

Troll
+1
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 18, 2016, 01:09:56 pm
Doesn't Victory count?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 18, 2016, 05:21:40 pm
Quote from: Bagley on August 18, 2016, 01:09:56 pm
Doesn't Victory count?

sure, but the closest option from downtown philly is 45 mins away with no traffic...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 18, 2016, 05:34:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 17, 2016, 11:17:21 pm
My one experience at Monk's...I found it loud and unpleasant. Also, our server was downright rude..,ymmv.

As far as Belgian beer bars go in Philly, Eulogy was better.

my one experience at Monk's was awesome.  it was during the 2013 National Homebrewers Conference, where the guy who started Monk's (Tom Peters) gave the keynote toast.  he said that that night, they would be tapping 2 kegs of Pliny.  the second his talk was over my posse was in cabs headed down to monks.  we got there just in time to grab the last big table.  place got packed very quickly after that.  staff said they couldn't tap the Pliny until another keg kicked.  the assembled mob demanded to know what the least-full keg was, and when they announced it everyone jumped on that beer.  t'was a noble communal effort ;D

the place had a great (albeit special due to NHC) vibe that night.  despite being packed out server was awesome.  mussels were good, beer was great.

never been to eulogy but will hit it next time i'm in philly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 18, 2016, 06:36:34 pm
hit a little pop up at 21st and M  called Canteen
they had Veil - Master Shredder on tap...very delicious and juicy

quite the draft list
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p240x240/14034902_661410967357474_7053414376764050807_n.png?oh=1b9f8cf72c6413569fed3e4249573377&oe=5810DDA6)
although no happy hour pricing and $7-8 a 16 oz pour

I'm getting that melvin the next time
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 18, 2016, 06:37:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 18, 2016, 05:34:34 pm
the 2013 National Homebrewers Conference,
guess we're never getting the NHBC 2016 commentary :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2016, 02:41:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 22, 2016, 02:02:44 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 22, 2016, 01:18:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2016, 11:51:05 am
Is the Answer/Mekong two different spots or connected? Can you order Mekong food in The Answer Brewpub?
They are in the same strip mall but they are different units (with some other random place in between the two).

I don't know specifically if you can take food from one into the other but The Answer's menu is basically smaller version of Mekong extremely-large menu.


The Answer menu:

http://theanswerbrewpub.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Brewpub-Dinner.pdf

Mekong menu:

http://mekongisforbeerlovers.com/food/

One noticeable difference is that the Answer has Bahn Mi sandwiches and Mekong does not.

So what would make a thrifty guy like yourself even want to go to Mekong? My assumption is the beer list, however, where can you find an accurate tap list? I found one that can't be accurate (has aslin, de garde, etc. listed as on tap).

Edit: taking this to the beer thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 22, 2016, 02:44:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2016, 02:41:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 22, 2016, 02:02:44 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 22, 2016, 01:18:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2016, 11:51:05 am
Is the Answer/Mekong two different spots or connected? Can you order Mekong food in The Answer Brewpub?
They are in the same strip mall but they are different units (with some other random place in between the two).

I don't know specifically if you can take food from one into the other but The Answer's menu is basically smaller version of Mekong extremely-large menu.


The Answer menu:

http://theanswerbrewpub.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Brewpub-Dinner.pdf

Mekong menu:

http://mekongisforbeerlovers.com/food/

One noticeable difference is that the Answer has Bahn Mi sandwiches and Mekong does not.

So what would make a thrifty guy like yourself even want to go to Mekong? My assumption is the beer list, however, where can you find an accurate tap list? I found one that can't be accurate (has aslin, de garde, etc. listed as on tap).

Edit: taking this to the beer thread.

Very tasty and reasonably priced Vietnamese food and a better tap list than any beer bar in DC, with better prices (e.g. Bon Chien always on tap, $8 for 10 ozs.).

Also, frustratingly, there's never an updated draft list online (though for some reason they keep the Answer list updated). That said, i've been there a half dozen times and the draft list has never been anything short of amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2016, 02:46:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 22, 2016, 02:44:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2016, 02:41:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 22, 2016, 02:02:44 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on August 22, 2016, 01:18:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2016, 11:51:05 am
Is the Answer/Mekong two different spots or connected? Can you order Mekong food in The Answer Brewpub?
They are in the same strip mall but they are different units (with some other random place in between the two).

I don't know specifically if you can take food from one into the other but The Answer's menu is basically smaller version of Mekong extremely-large menu.


The Answer menu:

http://theanswerbrewpub.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Brewpub-Dinner.pdf

Mekong menu:

http://mekongisforbeerlovers.com/food/

One noticeable difference is that the Answer has Bahn Mi sandwiches and Mekong does not.

So what would make a thrifty guy like yourself even want to go to Mekong? My assumption is the beer list, however, where can you find an accurate tap list? I found one that can't be accurate (has aslin, de garde, etc. listed as on tap).

Edit: taking this to the beer thread.

Very tasty and reasonably priced Vietnamese food and a better tap list than any beer bar in DC, with better prices (e.g. Bon Chien always on tap, $8 for 10 ozs.).


gotcha, i thought the Bon Chien post in the previous thread was a negative due to the Space/Ounce ratio. Where can I find a tap list?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 22, 2016, 02:48:57 pm
Taplist comparable in quality and size to that of Answer, which is onlne, though they might only have one or two Answer beers on draft compared to the full complement at the Answer itself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 22, 2016, 02:51:42 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2016, 02:46:12 pm
gotcha, i thought the Bon Chien post in the previous thread was a negative due to the Space/Ounce ratio. Where can I find a tap list?

yeah, that price on Bon Chien is ridiculously low.  first, i've only ever seen it on tap once - when the brewer was doing a tour.  second, the stuff is typically around $30 a bottle at retail, when you can find it.  $8 a pour is a great price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2016, 02:53:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 22, 2016, 02:48:57 pm
Taplist comparable in quality and size to that of Answer, which is onlne, though they might only have one or two Answer beers on draft compared to the full complement at the Answer itself.

omg. Gracias space.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 23, 2016, 05:02:29 pm
words fail me.

State Delegate Who Has Defended Montgomery County?s Liquor Monopoly Owns Business that Collects Millions in Lease Payments from Department of Liquor Control
Ben Kramer co-owns a commercial property that has leased space to a county liquor store since 2003
http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/Web-2016/State-Delegate-Who-Has-Defended-Montgomery-Countys-Liquor-Monopoly-Owns-Business-that-Collects-Millions-in-Lease-Payments-from-Department-of-Liquor-Control/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 23, 2016, 05:47:36 pm
call me crazy, but how does one have a '2016 Virginia Craft Beer Award' (http://www.richmond.com/food-drink/article_6b3f0eda-64d9-5597-8570-732329728aed.html) and Aslin nor Oclet not even medal?

 The Answer Brewpub, took two first-place awards. Its Larceny won for Best American IPA, and Mami Cereza won for Best Fruit Beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 23, 2016, 06:04:07 pm
Quote from: SideBoognish  🎶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🎸 on August 23, 2016, 05:47:36 pm
call me crazy, but how does one have a '2016 Virginia Craft Beer Award' (http://www.richmond.com/food-drink/article_6b3f0eda-64d9-5597-8570-732329728aed.html) and Aslin nor Oclet not even medal?

did they enter?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 23, 2016, 11:06:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 23, 2016, 06:04:07 pm
Quote from: SideBoognish  🎶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🎸 on August 23, 2016, 05:47:36 pm
call me crazy, but how does one have a '2016 Virginia Craft Beer Award' (http://www.richmond.com/food-drink/article_6b3f0eda-64d9-5597-8570-732329728aed.html) and Aslin nor Oclet not even medal?

did they enter?
obviously not...not 100% why not being a VA Craft Beer award
I just think it would be like having the Olympics and Bolt and Justice didn't run the 100m




Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 24, 2016, 07:50:36 am
I think the Olympics still mattered pre-2004.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 24, 2016, 10:16:34 am
Quote from: SideBoognish  🎶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🎸 on August 23, 2016, 11:06:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 23, 2016, 06:04:07 pm
Quote from: SideBoognish  🎶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🎸 on August 23, 2016, 05:47:36 pm
call me crazy, but how does one have a '2016 Virginia Craft Beer Award' (http://www.richmond.com/food-drink/article_6b3f0eda-64d9-5597-8570-732329728aed.html) and Aslin nor Oclet not even medal?

did they enter?
obviously not...not 100% why not being a VA Craft Beer award
I just think it would be like having the Olympics and Bolt and Justice didn't run the 100m

beer competitions, like the 100m, require participants to actively enter.  bolt (or any other competitor) can't just show up on the day of the race and expect a place to be held for them - they need to submit paperwork, qualify, etc.

i don't know if aslin and ocelot failed to submit their beer, but that's one explanation.

another is that, you know, they didn't win.  they make amazing IPAs.  so do other breweries...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 24, 2016, 11:04:56 am
enjoyed recently:  a lot of hazy, hop-heavy beers.

- DC Brau #ultrafresh: the cans i got were 2.5 weeks old, not sure if that constitutes "ultra fresh" but the beer was awesome.  there's a term that has emerged to describe New England IPAs, "juicy", and this one has it in spades.

- Enjoy By 09.05.16: not quite as mind-blowing as i remember the last unfiltered enjoy by being, back in february, but still amazing.  not sure if i like the #ultrafresh more than the enjoy by.  both are great.

- my homebrewed hoppy stylistic frankenbeer: it's hopped like an IPA, has caramel rye which is more indicative of a pale ale but the alcohol is too high for an APA, it's partially on the way to an american barleywine... an extra pale ale?  whatever, it's cloudy and it's damn tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 24, 2016, 02:12:51 pm
#ultrafresh is 3 stars

Quote from: sweetcell on August 24, 2016, 11:04:56 am
enjoyed recently:  a lot of hazy, hop-heavy beers.

- DC Brau #ultrafresh: the cans i got were 2.5 weeks old, not sure if that constitutes "ultra fresh" but the beer was awesome.  there's a term that has emerged to describe New England IPAs, "juicy", and this one has it in spades.

- Enjoy By 09.05.16: not quite as mind-blowing as i remember the last unfiltered enjoy by being, back in february, but still amazing.  not sure if i like the #ultrafresh more than the enjoy by.  both are great.

- my homebrewed hoppy stylistic frankenbeer: it's hopped like an IPA, has caramel rye which is more indicative of a pale ale but the alcohol is too high for an APA, it's partially on the way to an american barleywine... an extra pale ale?  whatever, it's cloudy and it's damn tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 24, 2016, 03:57:11 pm
dang.  thanks for setting the record straight.

still recommended ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 25, 2016, 06:28:21 pm
Hit up canteen again and  they are getting some pretty spectacular brews
Had a prarrie: standard and funky gold  mosaic
Also a stillwater/ otther half colab called Rockstar farmer,  which was a brett IPA

I found out this is a NRG group thing, hence the good selection
The barkeep said during snallygaster they are going to have all 20 taps going with some pretty rare stuff
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on August 25, 2016, 08:37:29 pm
Quote from: SideBoognish  🎶 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🎸 on August 25, 2016, 06:28:21 pm
Had a prarrie: standard and funky gold  mosaic

funky gold mosaic is one of my favorite beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 26, 2016, 06:07:57 pm
Enjoyed recently: the Banquet Beer straight from the source.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 31, 2016, 10:59:32 pm
Aslin first anniversary party, $100...but you do get free sunglasses...

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/aslin-anniversary-party-tickets-27439635689

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 31, 2016, 11:07:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 31, 2016, 10:59:32 pm
Aslin first anniversary party, $100...but you do get free sunglasses...

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/aslin-anniversary-party-tickets-27439635689



I can't see you going....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 31, 2016, 11:29:51 pm
Quote from: John "Hutch" Hutchinson on August 31, 2016, 11:07:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 31, 2016, 10:59:32 pm
Aslin first anniversary party, $100...but you do get free sunglasses...

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/aslin-anniversary-party-tickets-27439635689



I can't see you going....

I want to say the Ocelot anniversary party was $50 or $60. But they didn't offer sunglasses....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 31, 2016, 11:33:21 pm
these days 100$ is like 50$
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 01, 2016, 08:49:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 31, 2016, 10:59:32 pm
Aslin first anniversary party, $100...but you do get free sunglasses...

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/aslin-anniversary-party-tickets-27439635689



$1.67 an ounce... HOLY SPACE TO OUNCE RATIO BATMAN.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 01, 2016, 09:36:22 am
I had a bunch of Goose IPA.. enough to fill the hull of the USS Renaissance...at the Lucinda Williams show at Ramshead Live..

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2016, 09:36:26 am
Quote from: John "Hutch" Hutchinson on August 31, 2016, 11:33:21 pm
these days 100$ is like 50$
truest thing I've heard all day
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 01, 2016, 11:34:06 am
Quote from: Yada on September 01, 2016, 08:49:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 31, 2016, 10:59:32 pm
Aslin first anniversary party, $100...but you do get free sunglasses...

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/aslin-anniversary-party-tickets-27439635689



$1.67 an ounce... HOLY SPACE TO OUNCE RATIO BATMAN.

I think its a decent deal actually, although interesting/amusing to see signs of Aslin backlash stirring on BA over the pricing.

Sunglasses aside (WTF?) I think you'd be hard pressed based on the prices I've seen at Churchkey lately to get 15 5oz pours a t-shirt and a glass for less than 100 bucks

Also.....15 5oz pours? I think people are gonnna be shitfaced
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 01, 2016, 11:54:39 am
Aslin is pretty small, I can't really picture 100 people comfortably fitting in there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 01, 2016, 11:56:07 am
Quote from: fatskippy on September 01, 2016, 11:54:39 am
Aslin is pretty small, I can't really picture 100 people comfortably fitting in there.

#ass2assbeerdrinkin

where's walky?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 01, 2016, 12:49:54 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 01, 2016, 11:34:06 am
Quote from: Yada on September 01, 2016, 08:49:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 31, 2016, 10:59:32 pm
Aslin first anniversary party, $100...but you do get free sunglasses...

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/aslin-anniversary-party-tickets-27439635689



$1.67 an ounce... HOLY SPACE TO OUNCE RATIO BATMAN.

I think its a decent deal actually, although interesting/amusing to see signs of Aslin backlash stirring on BA over the pricing.

Sunglasses aside (WTF?) I think you'd be hard pressed based on the prices I've seen at Churchkey lately to get 15 5oz pours a t-shirt and a glass for less than 100 bucks

Also.....15 5oz pours? I think people are gonnna be shitfaced

While I'm no fanboy of Churchkey, it is in a hip part of DC and is swanky enough that you might want to take a date there. Whereas Aslin is in a strip mall in Herndon, and only a wife who really, really loves beer would get excited to set foot in the place. For Churchkey, to some extent, you're paying for the overall experience including the beer whereas for Aslin you're paying for the beer and the beer only.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2016, 02:11:13 pm
is space talking value add here...is it bizzaro day
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 01, 2016, 08:12:30 pm
$200 to take my beer-loving wife on a date there "for the beer and the beer only" is a rip.  Even after offsetting the price of a shirt, glass and plastic sunglasses. Last time we were there we spent $175 which included 2 hours of drinking and 8 crowlers.

75 ounces of 7% and above beer also makes the hike back to MoCo a bit of a hassle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 02, 2016, 12:53:48 pm
So who knew that Racer 5, Torpedo, Two Hearted and Dogfish 60 (Really???) are still among the 11 best IPA's? Well I guess now we do.

http://www.craftkulture.com/11-best-american-ipas/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 05, 2016, 09:35:32 pm
Made it out to Waredeca and I have to say, one of the best DMV breweries as far as 'place to enjoy whilst drinking a beer'
I thought the Coffee Stout, the Session Pale Ale and their Peach Gose were all scrumptious
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 06, 2016, 09:00:31 am
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 05, 2016, 09:35:32 pm
Made it out to Waredeca and I have to say, one of the best DMV breweries as far as 'place to enjoy whilst drinking a beer'
I thought the Coffee Stout, the Session Pale Ale and their Peach Gose were all scrumptious
 

Nice... I'm heading there this weekend and have heard it's a nice place to hang out. I've had that stout and thought it was above average.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 06, 2016, 01:00:50 pm
Here's one for fans of Wicked Weed who may not frequent the Beer Advocate forums....



Wicked Weed will also be at Smoke and Barrel on 9/14. 15 drafts. All 1/2 price from 5-7.

 Genesis Blonde Sour with Mango, Guava, Papaya, Pineapple
 Recurrant Sour Red with Black Currants
 Garcon de Ferme Brettanomyces-fermented Saison with Peaches
 Myrtille Golden Sour with Blueberries
 Amorous Sour IPA
 Brettaberry Tart Farmhouse with Strawberries, Blueberries, Blackberries
 Pernicious West Coast IPA
 Freak of Nature Imperial IPA
 Napoleon Complex Hoppy Pale Ale
 Lunatic Belgian Blond Ale
 Coolcumber Golden Ale with Cucumbers, Juniper, and Basil
 Juiceless Wheat IPA collaboration with Creature Comforts
 Pacificmost Gose with Mango and Guava
 Xibalba Imperial Pumpkin brewed with Peppers, Cocoa, Spices
 Bourbon Barrel-Aged Xibalba
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 06, 2016, 01:35:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 06, 2016, 09:00:31 am
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 05, 2016, 09:35:32 pm
Made it out to Waredeca and I have to say, one of the best DMV breweries as far as 'place to enjoy whilst drinking a beer'
I thought the Coffee Stout, the Session Pale Ale and their Peach Gose were all scrumptious
 

Nice... I'm heading there this weekend and have heard it's a nice place to hang out. I've had that stout and thought it was above average.
very kid and dog friendly
plus there is a horse farm next door to watch whist drinking
they even have hops growing, so you can grab a cone and break it up to smell a real hop
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 06, 2016, 02:09:07 pm
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 06, 2016, 01:35:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 06, 2016, 09:00:31 am
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 05, 2016, 09:35:32 pm
Made it out to Waredeca and I have to say, one of the best DMV breweries as far as 'place to enjoy whilst drinking a beer'
I thought the Coffee Stout, the Session Pale Ale and their Peach Gose were all scrumptious
 

Nice... I'm heading there this weekend and have heard it's a nice place to hang out. I've had that stout and thought it was above average.
very kid and dog friendly
 

that's why we're going brah! and it's my bday! :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 06, 2016, 04:08:04 pm
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 06, 2016, 01:35:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 06, 2016, 09:00:31 am
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 05, 2016, 09:35:32 pm
Made it out to Waredeca and I have to say, one of the best DMV breweries as far as 'place to enjoy whilst drinking a beer'
I thought the Coffee Stout, the Session Pale Ale and their Peach Gose were all scrumptious
 

Nice... I'm heading there this weekend and have heard it's a nice place to hang out. I've had that stout and thought it was above average.
very kid and dog friendly
plus there is a horse farm next door to watch whist drinking
they even have hops growing, so you can grab a cone and break it up to smell a real hop

Is there anything else to do in that area? Sounds like a good time, but can't see myself driving 40+ miles *just* to go there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 06, 2016, 04:19:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 06, 2016, 04:08:04 pm
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 06, 2016, 01:35:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 06, 2016, 09:00:31 am
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 05, 2016, 09:35:32 pm
Made it out to Waredeca and I have to say, one of the best DMV breweries as far as 'place to enjoy whilst drinking a beer'
I thought the Coffee Stout, the Session Pale Ale and their Peach Gose were all scrumptious
 

Nice... I'm heading there this weekend and have heard it's a nice place to hang out. I've had that stout and thought it was above average.
very kid and dog friendly
plus there is a horse farm next door to watch whist drinking
they even have hops growing, so you can grab a cone and break it up to smell a real hop

Is there anything else to do in that area? Sounds like a good time, but can't see myself driving 40+ miles *just* to go there.

Annapolis Rock appears to be a few miles away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 06, 2016, 08:40:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 06, 2016, 04:08:04 pm
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 06, 2016, 01:35:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 06, 2016, 09:00:31 am
Quote from: Sideeffect   [move]|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|[/move] on September 05, 2016, 09:35:32 pm
Made it out to Waredeca and I have to say, one of the best DMV breweries as far as 'place to enjoy whilst drinking a beer'
I thought the Coffee Stout, the Session Pale Ale and their Peach Gose were all scrumptious
 

Nice... I'm heading there this weekend and have heard it's a nice place to hang out. I've had that stout and thought it was above average.
very kid and dog friendly
plus there is a horse farm next door to watch whist drinking
they even have hops growing, so you can grab a cone and break it up to smell a real hop

Is there anything else to do in that area? Sounds like a good time, but can't see myself driving 40+ miles *just* to go there.
Lots of Apple orchards and horse farms
I'm sure there is some decent antiquing too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 07, 2016, 09:27:27 am
Brookeville Beer Farm is also close by and is also very kid and dog friendly.  The grapefruit IPA is great. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 07, 2016, 09:39:25 am
Thinking of doing this on our anniversary:

$75/person

WHAT?S INCLUDED

Tasting & Behind the Scenes Look of the Finest Frederick Breweries in Two Itineraries

Olde Mother Brewing Company
Mad Science Brewing Company
Monocacy Brewing Company
Flying Dog
Barley & Hops
Appetizers
At Barley & Hops serving ?great American casual food?and the best selection of on-site brewed craft beer in the area?
Shuttle Service with Professional Driver
We provide shuttle service to all the stops starting and ending at the Hampton Inn @ 5311 Buckeystown Pike in Frederick, Maryland.*option to overnight at the Hampton Inn with prior reservations
All parking & gratuities Included
*We must have a minimum of 10 people to run this tour.
FALL TOUR DATES & DETAILS

Itinerary A- Available November 12 & December 10, Saturdays
Taste & tour the Monocacy Brewing Company, Barley & Hops, Olde Mother Brewing Company
Saturdays
12:30 Meet Hampton Inn.  Approx 4:45 return to cars

Book Now!

Itinerary B- Available October 29 & November 26, Saturdays
Taste & tour Flying Dog, Barley & Hops, and Mad Science Brewing Company
Saturdays
12:30 Meet Hampton Inn.  Approx 4:45 return to cars

Book Now!

 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 07, 2016, 12:15:19 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on September 07, 2016, 09:27:27 am
Brookeville Beer Farm is also close by and is also very kid and dog friendly.  The grapefruit IPA is great. 

Finally a beer joint I can skateboard to (and have)!

Both BBF and Wardeca are nice spots and draw crowds.  Beers are hit or miss. Both places have an above average stout and IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2016, 11:53:02 am
I might get Bomb'ed tonight
double duck too!

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14212097_672298296268741_9078381151331443816_n.png?oh=ea1613813329be763deea7d8753bb058&oe=584AE42F)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 10, 2016, 11:54:38 pm
prepare to drool: https://www.beeradvocate.com/belgian/beer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 11, 2016, 08:43:24 pm
I like beer, but road trip to Boston isn't even an option
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 11, 2016, 09:12:47 pm
Meh, not enough hoppy ipa's on that list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 11, 2016, 09:38:53 pm
Lagunitas....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 12, 2016, 12:26:31 pm
Imma go out on a limb here and say that Waredaca is the nicest brewery in terms of environment/atmosphere that I've ever been to. It reminded me of more of a vineyard than a brewery. The kid friendliness was perfect, weather was gorgeous, beer was average at best out of the seven I tried. Peach Gose was delicious and would drink again, Coffee Stout was great as well... everything else was slightly better than a drain pour. Would return again.


(https://s17.postimg.org/l92cfe84f/20160911_162904.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 02:50:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2016, 12:26:31 pm
Imma go out on a limb here and say that Waredaca is the nicest brewery in terms of environment/atmosphere that I've ever been to. It reminded me of more of a vineyard than a brewery. The kid friendliness was perfect, weather was gorgeous, beer was average at best out of the seven I tried. Peach Gose was delicious and would drink again, Coffee Stout was great as well... everything else was slightly better than a drain pour. Would return again.


(https://s17.postimg.org/l92cfe84f/20160911_162904.jpg)

Why is it going out on a limb? What other impressive breweries have you been to? Have you been to Manor Hill yet?

Kloster Andechs in Germany was one of my favorites. I'm not sure it was our five year olds' favorite, as it was a 6K round trip hike to get there. To watch her parents drink the best dopplebock in the world. (and partake in the festive beergarden atmosphere and food menu).

(http://p5.focus.de/img/fotos/origs3872828/8216569101-w531-h354-o-q75-p5/Blick-auf-Kloster-Andechs.jpg)

Now 9, She really did enjoy the Grand Teton Brewing Company, which we hit twice on our most recent vacation. Lot of kids, dog, even some people arriving by horse. Big outdoor lawn with this view (unfortunately no view of the actual Grand Tetons):

(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/09/11/5f/4e/grand-teton-brewing-company.jpg)

New Glarus was also pretty excellent to visit. But I went there by myself.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2650/4035563714_f0c70844ec.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 12, 2016, 03:05:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 02:50:03 pm
Why is it going out on a limb? What other impressive breweries have you been to? Have you been to Manor Hill yet?


Maybe "going out on a limb" wasn't the proper lingo in this scenario. I haven't been to many picturesque breweries, so maybe I'm not at the caliber of Space to compare it to others. I've been to Hill Farmstead, but shitty weather both times and I wouldn't want to take my family there.

I haven't been to Manor Hill, no interest in taking my kids there either and having to make a reservation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 03:32:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2016, 03:05:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 02:50:03 pm
Why is it going out on a limb? What other impressive breweries have you been to? Have you been to Manor Hill yet?


Maybe "going out on a limb" wasn't the proper lingo in this scenario. I haven't been to many picturesque breweries, so maybe I'm not at the caliber of Space to compare it to others. I've been to Hill Farmstead, but shitty weather both times and I wouldn't want to take my family there.

I haven't been to Manor Hill, no interest in taking my kids there either and having to make a reservation.

My kid is older than yours, so not really comparable, but I seem to remember mine liking it at Manor Hill, but I can't recall why. Maybe because she got to roam around, without acting like too much of an idiot. I think her two favorites have been Lagunitas and for some reason (maybe the dogs?) Ocelot. She hates Aslin.

I thought the reservation system at Manor Hill is a greet idea, as it keeps the crowds at a comfortably uncrowded level.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 12, 2016, 03:36:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 03:32:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2016, 03:05:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 02:50:03 pm
Why is it going out on a limb? What other impressive breweries have you been to? Have you been to Manor Hill yet?


Maybe "going out on a limb" wasn't the proper lingo in this scenario. I haven't been to many picturesque breweries, so maybe I'm not at the caliber of Space to compare it to others. I've been to Hill Farmstead, but shitty weather both times and I wouldn't want to take my family there.

I haven't been to Manor Hill, no interest in taking my kids there either and having to make a reservation.

My kid is older than yours, so not really comparable, but I seem to remember mine liking it at Manor Hill, but I can't recall why. Maybe because she got to roam around, without acting like too much of an idiot. I think her two favorites have been Lagunitas and for some reason (maybe the dogs?) Ocelot. She hates Aslin.

I thought the reservation system at Manor Hill is a greet idea, as it keeps the crowds at a comfortably uncrowded level.

At the current age, we seem to operate better in an outdoor environment. Note: the time we bumped into you indoors at Ocelot. Keeping our toddler still doesn't add to the allure of any brewery where we have to be in doors.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 04:15:43 pm
Lickinghole Creek (in the country outside of Richmond) is another good outdoor brewery. We've only been once, but it was for their anniversary last year. The cornhole and the pick all you can (for free) pumpkin patch were a big hit with the kid. And the dogs. I mean all the dogs were a big hit with the kid. Not sure if any of the dogs really cared about the pumpkins and cornhole.

But I realize Virginia might as well be Siberia for you Maryland folks.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 12, 2016, 04:25:57 pm
How was penn druid...seems like its in a pastoral local
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 12, 2016, 04:39:35 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 04:15:43 pm
Lickinghole Creek (in the country outside of Richmond) is another good outdoor brewery. We've only been once, but it was for their anniversary last year. The cornhole and the pick all you can (for free) pumpkin patch were a big hit with the kid. And the dogs. I mean all the dogs were a big hit with the kid. Not sure if any of the dogs really cared about the pumpkins and cornhole.

But I realize Virginia might as well be Siberia for you Maryland folks.  ;D


Yeah, I can't dedicate much time to beer travels at my present day life and definitely can't head to Richmond for an afternoon to do it. I've been wanting to get out to Ocelot since the first time I've been there and still haven't made it back.


Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 12, 2016, 04:25:57 pm
How was penn druid...seems like its in a pastoral local


Would love to get out there... but... see above.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 04:58:14 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 12, 2016, 04:25:57 pm
How was penn druid...seems like its in a pastoral local


Not as pastoral as one would hope, but all in all a decent experience. Indoors. Picnic table/communal setting. Enough room for a kid to wander and not bother people, unless it was really crowded. I guess they have tables outside but they're in the blazing sun with no view or anything. Beer is excellent. The loud-ish psych rock they play would impress some people on this board (even if it's not my thing, it's a welcome change to "safe" music most breweries play). The three brothers all friendly dudes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2016, 10:47:40 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 04:58:14 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 12, 2016, 04:25:57 pm
How was penn druid...seems like its in a pastoral local


Not as pastoral as one would hope, but all in all a decent experience. Indoors. Picnic table/communal setting. Enough room for a kid to wander and not bother people, unless it was really crowded. I guess they have tables outside but they're in the blazing sun with no view or anything. Beer is excellent. The loud-ish psych rock they play would impress some people on this board (even if it's not my thing, it's a welcome change to "safe" music most breweries play). The three brothers all friendly dudes.
Penn D just posted this shot on their FB

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14333803_1784536971814745_7390252249839818503_n.jpg?oh=8fce73df21923b533f5fd5d5f2ab55c0&oe=58775AD9)

Looks pastoral to me?
Maybe that's not where the drinking is done
and Donkeys... Awesome!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2016, 11:06:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 06, 2016, 01:00:50 pm
Here's one for fans of Wicked Weed who may not frequent the Beer Advocate forums....



Wicked Weed will also be at Smoke and Barrel on 9/14. 15 drafts. All 1/2 price from 5-7.

 Genesis Blonde Sour with Mango, Guava, Papaya, Pineapple
 Recurrant Sour Red with Black Currants
 Garcon de Ferme Brettanomyces-fermented Saison with Peaches
 Myrtille Golden Sour with Blueberries
 Amorous Sour IPA
 Brettaberry Tart Farmhouse with Strawberries, Blueberries, Blackberries
 Pernicious West Coast IPA
 Freak of Nature Imperial IPA
 Napoleon Complex Hoppy Pale Ale
 Lunatic Belgian Blond Ale
 Coolcumber Golden Ale with Cucumbers, Juniper, and Basil
 Juiceless Wheat IPA collaboration with Creature Comforts
 Pacificmost Gose with Mango and Guava
 Xibalba Imperial Pumpkin brewed with Peppers, Cocoa, Spices
 Bourbon Barrel-Aged Xibalba

The beer gods smiled on us...back to school night appears to have been moved to a different night, allowing us to go to our daughter's favorite DC restaurant tonight...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2016, 11:10:30 am
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 14, 2016, 10:47:40 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2016, 04:58:14 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 12, 2016, 04:25:57 pm
How was penn druid...seems like its in a pastoral local


Not as pastoral as one would hope, but all in all a decent experience. Indoors. Picnic table/communal setting. Enough room for a kid to wander and not bother people, unless it was really crowded. I guess they have tables outside but they're in the blazing sun with no view or anything. Beer is excellent. The loud-ish psych rock they play would impress some people on this board (even if it's not my thing, it's a welcome change to "safe" music most breweries play). The three brothers all friendly dudes.
Penn D just posted this shot on their FB

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14333803_1784536971814745_7390252249839818503_n.jpg?oh=8fce73df21923b533f5fd5d5f2ab55c0&oe=58775AD9)

Looks pastoral to me?
Maybe that's not where the drinking is done
and Donkeys... Awesome!

I'm having trouble loading up their facebook page, but that's quite likely a photo from their family farm. This is the brewery.

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14202672_10153689006285736_2086383363590027955_n.jpg?oh=15c5e84c06f840d4fdd663b37b7bb5cf&oe=583C32AD)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2016, 12:47:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 14, 2016, 11:06:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 06, 2016, 01:00:50 pm
Here's one for fans of Wicked Weed who may not frequent the Beer Advocate forums....


The beer gods smiled on us...back to school night appears to have been moved to a different night, allowing us to go to our daughter's favorite DC restaurant tonight...
Funny...back to school night for mine is the reason I can't go to this tonight
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2016, 09:40:54 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 14, 2016, 12:47:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 14, 2016, 11:06:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 06, 2016, 01:00:50 pm
Here's one for fans of Wicked Weed who may not frequent the Beer Advocate forums....


The beer gods smiled on us...back to school night appears to have been moved to a different night, allowing us to go to our daughter's favorite DC restaurant tonight...
Funny...back to school night for mine is the reason I can't go to this tonight


Really good sours from Wicked Weed tonight. Though not quite in the same league as the Russian River Supplication I drank Tuesday night...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on September 15, 2016, 07:14:03 pm
Went to The Veil yesterday and really enjoyed it.  I prefer the ipa coming from Aslin though.  I tried Crucial Taunt, Broz Night Out, Step Step Dad Dad, Toof Toof Ache Ache, Master Shredder and Personal Space.  Really enjoyed Step Step Dad Dad and Master Shredder.  Got there early enough to bring some home.  Will visit again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 15, 2016, 07:59:58 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on September 15, 2016, 07:14:03 pm
Got there early enough to bring some home.

Is it roughly the same deal as Aslin in that you show up very early or you get nothing to take home?

I was planning to drive down but I'd hate to have nothing to sow for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 15, 2016, 08:40:01 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 15, 2016, 07:59:58 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on September 15, 2016, 07:14:03 pm
Got there early enough to bring some home.

Is it roughly the same deal as Aslin in that you show up very early or you get nothing to take home?

I was planning to drive down but I'd hate to have nothing to sow for it.
If you show up on Tuesdays, you will pretty much be assured of coming home with whatever you want of what they're bottling that week. If you come after Tuesday, keep a close eye on the Facebook page.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on September 15, 2016, 09:02:42 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on September 15, 2016, 08:40:01 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 15, 2016, 07:59:58 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on September 15, 2016, 07:14:03 pm
Got there early enough to bring some home.


Is it roughly the same deal as Aslin in that you show up very early or you get nothing to take home?

I was planning to drive down but I'd hate to have nothing to sow for it.
If you show up on Tuesdays, you will pretty much be assured of coming home with whatever you want of what they're bottling that week. If you come after Tuesday, keep a close eye on the Facebook page.

That's accurate.  I got there Wednesday early evening and saw they had 50 cases of each beer left before leaving.  They often sell out by Thursday and have more sought after beers sold out by Wed night.  Facebook is the guide though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2016, 12:14:03 pm
I have to go to an Oktoberfest thing this weekend. Assuming price is a constant, which of these not-an-IPA, nor-from-Michigan beers do I drink?

Hacker Pschorr Oktoberfest-Marzen
Paulaner Oktoberfest
Schlenkerla Marzen
Einbecker Pilsner
Hardywood Benny and the Fest
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 19, 2016, 12:16:49 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on September 19, 2016, 12:14:03 pm
I have to go to an Oktoberfest thing this weekend. Assuming price is a constant, which of these not-an-IPA, nor-from-Michigan beers do I drink?

Hacker Pschorr Oktoberfest-Marzen
Paulaner Oktoberfest
Schlenkerla Marzen
Einbecker Pilsner
Hardywood Benny and the Fest

Hardywood Benny and the Fest has the most pleasing name..

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2016, 12:19:18 pm
Quote from: hutch on September 19, 2016, 12:16:49 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on September 19, 2016, 12:14:03 pm
I have to go to an Oktoberfest thing this weekend. Assuming price is a constant, which of these not-an-IPA, nor-from-Michigan beers do I drink?

Hacker Pschorr Oktoberfest-Marzen
Paulaner Oktoberfest
Schlenkerla Marzen
Einbecker Pilsner
Hardywood Benny and the Fest

Hardywood Benny and the Fest has the most pleasing name..
I concur. But the jokey-name might not be indicative of the beer quality. Hence, I am crowdsourcing my selection to the beer nerds who frequent this thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2016, 01:22:50 pm
If you like you beer fairly plain and not hoppy ...Einbecker Pilsner

but Benny and the fest is a great name and a RVA brewery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2016, 01:34:46 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on September 19, 2016, 12:14:03 pm
I have to go to an Oktoberfest thing this weekend. Assuming price is a constant, which of these not-an-IPA, nor-from-Michigan beers do I drink?

Hacker Pschorr Oktoberfest-Marzen
Paulaner Oktoberfest
Schlenkerla Marzen
Einbecker Pilsner
Hardywood Benny and the Fest

If you like smoked beer (I do very much, when paired with the right food) , Schlenkerla is the right choice. If you don't, and you like beers more on the malty side (without the smoke), it's a toss-up between Paulaner and Hacker-Pschorr. If you like middling lagers, Einbecker would be your bet. I know nothing about the Hardywood beer, but based on their other German style beers I've had, I'd stick with a beer actually from Germany.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2016, 02:00:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 19, 2016, 01:34:46 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on September 19, 2016, 12:14:03 pm
I have to go to an Oktoberfest thing this weekend. Assuming price is a constant, which of these not-an-IPA, nor-from-Michigan beers do I drink?

Hacker Pschorr Oktoberfest-Marzen
Paulaner Oktoberfest
Schlenkerla Marzen
Einbecker Pilsner
Hardywood Benny and the Fest

If you like smoked beer (I do very much, when paired with the right food) , Schlenkerla is the right choice. If you don't, and you like beers more on the malty side (without the smoke), it's a toss-up between Paulaner and Hacker-Pschorr. If you like middling lagers, Einbecker would be your bet. I know nothing about the Hardywood beer, but based on their other German style beers I've had, I'd stick with a beer actually from Germany.
Thank you for your sage wisdom. I would've been quite embarrassed to come in here next Monday only to be informed I had ordered a sub-optimal beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2016, 02:03:26 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ThfW8Aa.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2016, 02:55:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 19, 2016, 01:34:46 pm
I'd stick with a beer actually from Germany.

the only issue that i have with this statement is that by the time those beers actually from germany make it here, they aren't the same beer.  spending a month on a hot freighter doesn't do good things to beer. 

granted we've all been conditioned to think that german beers are supposed to taste slightly stale a oxidized, so who knows... but at least the hardywood stuff might be fresh and not abused in transit.  so which will be best: a staled german beer from germany, or an attempt at a german beer from in-state?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2016, 04:03:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 19, 2016, 02:55:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 19, 2016, 01:34:46 pm
I'd stick with a beer actually from Germany.

the only issue that i have with this statement is that by the time those beers actually from germany make it here, they aren't the same beer.  spending a month on a hot freighter doesn't do good things to beer. 

granted we've all been conditioned to think that german beers are supposed to taste slightly stale a oxidized, so who knows... but at least the hardywood stuff might be fresh and not abused in transit.  so which will be best: a staled german beer from germany, or an attempt at a german beer from in-state?

Wise words. I think it's also safe to say that since these are low abv beers, if you drink slow enough or have a designated driver, you can safely try more than one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2016, 04:05:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 19, 2016, 04:03:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 19, 2016, 02:55:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 19, 2016, 01:34:46 pm
I'd stick with a beer actually from Germany.

the only issue that i have with this statement is that by the time those beers actually from germany make it here, they aren't the same beer.  spending a month on a hot freighter doesn't do good things to beer. 

granted we've all been conditioned to think that german beers are supposed to taste slightly stale a oxidized, so who knows... but at least the hardywood stuff might be fresh and not abused in transit.  so which will be best: a staled german beer from germany, or an attempt at a german beer from in-state?

Wise words. I think it's also safe to say that since these are low abv beers, if you drink slow enough or have a designated driver, you can safely try more than one.
Its within walking distance. I can get straight up crunk if I so desire.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 19, 2016, 04:13:57 pm
Been lucky to imbibe some delicious beer over the past week. Spent 4 days in Seattle just as the fesh hop wave was starting - didn't catch the crest of the wave but still incredible wet hop goodness from Fremont and Laurelwood.

Holy Mountain knocking out some incredible wood aged and funky stuff.

Reubens and Stoup a 2 minute walk from each other, each with about 15-20 beers on tap.

Cloudburst is the new kid on the block - some killer IPAs - won't do taster pours though - 10oz or 16oz only.

The freshest anti hero on shelves in chicago was 6 weeks old, surprisingly enough, but perhaps the reason was 2 week old moasic hero everywhere - just delicious

Grabbed a glass of Vietnamese Speedway Stout at The Publican.

Tried a new Mexican inspired brewery owned by Rick Bayless (iss?) the celebrity chef - decent.

Then at a wedding in the suburbs was surprised (but not too surprised) to find small breweries everywhere - ended up at a great little place called Noon Whistle with solid IPAs incl a NE style IPA and berliner weisses
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 23, 2016, 11:00:41 am
Anyone sampled the Firestone Luponic Distortion?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 23, 2016, 11:22:42 am
Quote from: Bagley on September 23, 2016, 11:00:41 am
Anyone sampled the Firestone Luponic Distortion?

 i liked both 1 and 2 - 3 should be out soon i think
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 23, 2016, 11:27:05 am
Quote from: brennser on September 23, 2016, 11:22:42 am
Quote from: Bagley on September 23, 2016, 11:00:41 am
Anyone sampled the Firestone Luponic Distortion?

 i liked both 1 and 2 - 3 should be out soon i think

Somewhat complex for a 5.9abv?   Clean finish?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 23, 2016, 12:30:43 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 23, 2016, 11:22:42 am
Quote from: Bagley on September 23, 2016, 11:00:41 am
Anyone sampled the Firestone Luponic Distortion?

 i liked both 1 and 2 - 3 should be out soon i think

as i wrote a while back, 2 left me very unimpressed and concerned that maybe i got a bad batch:
 
Quote from: sweetcell on July 11, 2016, 11:48:51 am
FW Luponic Distortion 002: meh.  might be the first FW beer that i'm less than impressed with.  maybe the sixer i got was mistreated on the way over here... i'm hoping this is the case, as i can't believe that FW could screw up a hoppy beer.  not that i'm going to risk my money on another 6 pack...

or, maybe, i just didn't like that IPA.  haven't tried it again so can't confirm or deny.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 23, 2016, 02:07:38 pm
Did y'all hear the Firestone Walker is killing off Double Jack, Wookey Jack, and Opal? What a shame, all excellent beers, when fresh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 23, 2016, 02:33:15 pm
This 4 hour layover is made only slightly tolerable by Duvel on draft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 23, 2016, 02:35:57 pm
Quote from: I don't know why you call me cousin oliver on September 23, 2016, 02:33:15 pm
This 4 hour layover is made only slightly tolerable by Duvel on draft.

What airport?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 23, 2016, 02:40:12 pm
Kansas city
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 23, 2016, 02:48:05 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 14, 2016, 12:47:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 14, 2016, 11:06:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 06, 2016, 01:00:50 pm
Here's one for fans of Wicked Weed who may not frequent the Beer Advocate forums....


The beer gods smiled on us...back to school night appears to have been moved to a different night, allowing us to go to our daughter's favorite DC restaurant tonight...
Funny...back to school night for mine is the reason I can't go to this tonight


I wore my Crooked Stave t-shirt to back to school night last night. I'm sure I broke some kind of school rule.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 23, 2016, 03:02:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 23, 2016, 02:07:38 pm
Did y'all hear the Firestone Walker is killing off Double Jack, Wookey Jack, and Opal? What a shame, all excellent beers, when fresh.

Didn't know that. Terrible news.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 23, 2016, 03:32:31 pm
opal never impressed me much, loved the other two.  wookie jack may be the only black IPA that i like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 23, 2016, 05:16:19 pm
Another one bites the dust:

Anheuser-Busch InBev Acquires Brouwerij Bosteels, Brewer Of Kwak, Deus, & Tripel Karmeliet
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 28, 2016, 02:50:45 pm
so I guess no one went to the Aslin 1 year
also no post show reports from Snallygaster? (I was trying to get to Canteen that Friday before..then they tweeted they were not doing it  :(  )

also this is going on this week http://dcbeerweek.net

few interesting events:
Sour Week at the Partisan
The 3 Fonteinen Bottle Share @ Sovereign
Ocelot Invades Brookland Pint
The Allagash Sour & Barrel-Aged Night @ rustico in Ballston
Handsome Beer Co. Goes Belgian @ Brasserie Beck
The Ballast Point 20th Anniversary Party @ churchkey
Cask Night at District ChopHouse & Brewery $50 -Unlimited samples of over 20 casks from the DMV
Denizens' ''Make It Funky' Wild Beer Festival
Cantillon Zwanze Day 2016 @ Sovereign


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 28, 2016, 02:52:59 pm
I saw these cool little 5L mini-kegs of Oberon earlier. I really like this beer but they basically only sell it for 6 months out of the year. Stored in this format at room temperature, how long hypothetically would one of these remain good? (And would it change it if I stuck it in my freezer?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 28, 2016, 02:56:04 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on September 28, 2016, 02:52:59 pm
Oberon

(And would it change it if I stuck it in my freezer?)

never understood the appeal of this one...but I just don't like Wheat beer that much

and yes my recommendation would be to put it in the Freezer...please send pics after it explodes
Beer unlike hard liquor has a high water content...causing it to expand
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 28, 2016, 02:58:34 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 28, 2016, 02:56:04 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on September 28, 2016, 02:52:59 pm
Oberon

(And would it change it if I stuck it in my freezer?)

never understood the appeal of this one...but I just don't like Wheat beer that much

and yes my recommendation would be to put it in the Freezer...please send pics after it explodes
Beer unlike hard liquor has a high water content...causing it to expand
OK, let me rephrase the scenario: refrigerator (not freezer) vs room temperature.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 28, 2016, 03:16:42 pm
WHAT IS THE SHELF LIFE OF AN UNOPENED MINI-KEG?
Typically, one of our mini-kegs can be stored for several months, provided that you store it in a cool place. Refrigeration is preferable, but not completely necessary. We encourage retailers to keep them cold so that the shelf life with you, the consumer, is maximized. Once you get it home, storage in a cooler would be ideal, but cool spaces such as closets or basements will work just fine.

https://www.bellsbeer.com/faq-page#t95n7514

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 28, 2016, 03:25:21 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on September 28, 2016, 02:52:59 pm
I saw these cool little 5L mini-kegs of Oberon earlier. I really like this beer but they basically only sell it for 6 months out of the year. Stored in this format at room temperature, how long hypothetically would one of these remain good? (And would it change it if I stuck it in my freezerfridge?)

would definitely last longer in the fridge.

the beer shouldn't spoil or become undrinkable with time, it will just taste less fresh.  wheat beers tend to age very poorly, as in the show the effects of age sooner.  everyone has a different tolerance for aged/oxidized beers.

all that to say: kept in the fridge, it should be fine for several months... personally i wouldn't go more than 3 or 4, and really you should just drink it asap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 28, 2016, 04:12:14 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 28, 2016, 02:50:45 pm
so I guess no one went to the Aslin 1 year
also no post show reports from Snallygaster? (I was trying to get to Canteen that Friday before..then they tweeted they were not doing it  :(  )

also this is going on this week http://dcbeerweek.net

few interesting events:
Sour Week at the Partisan
The 3 Fonteinen Bottle Share @ Sovereign
Ocelot Invades Brookland Pint
The Allagash Sour & Barrel-Aged Night @ rustico in Ballston
Handsome Beer Co. Goes Belgian @ Brasserie Beck
The Ballast Point 20th Anniversary Party @ churchkey
Cask Night at District ChopHouse & Brewery $50 -Unlimited samples of over 20 casks from the DMV
Denizens' ''Make It Funky' Wild Beer Festival
Cantillon Zwanze Day 2016 @ Sovereign




I am pretty sure Brennser went to the Aslin Anniversary Party (did he do the weekend daily double and hit the 3 Stars Hopfunkfest as well?). If he did, hope I get to see him in the sunglasses.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 28, 2016, 09:30:47 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 28, 2016, 04:12:14 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on September 28, 2016, 02:50:45 pm
so I guess no one went to the Aslin 1 year
also no post show reports from Snallygaster? (I was trying to get to Canteen that Friday before..then they tweeted they were not doing it  :(  )

also this is going on this week http://dcbeerweek.net

few interesting events:
Sour Week at the Partisan
The 3 Fonteinen Bottle Share @ Sovereign
Ocelot Invades Brookland Pint
The Allagash Sour & Barrel-Aged Night @ rustico in Ballston
Handsome Beer Co. Goes Belgian @ Brasserie Beck
The Ballast Point 20th Anniversary Party @ churchkey
Cask Night at District ChopHouse & Brewery $50 -Unlimited samples of over 20 casks from the DMV
Denizens' ''Make It Funky' Wild Beer Festival
Cantillon Zwanze Day 2016 @ Sovereign




I am pretty sure Brennser went to the Aslin Anniversary Party (did he do the weekend daily double and hit the 3 Stars Hopfunkfest as well?). If he did, hope I get to see him in the sunglasses.  ;)

i went - it was great and worth every penny despite all the hating on the BA forum - we all know their core beers are great - the collars were mostly good to very good except for the pen druid collab - there were a ridiculous number of guest beers (6 or 7 taps rotated every hour for a total of 18-21 guest beers)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 28, 2016, 11:38:44 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 28, 2016, 09:30:47 pm
i went -
let's see the sunglasses or it didn't happen

went to Sehkraft tonight...just can't get excited about their beers
brought a growler with me, but $20 for the DIPA
didn't pass the space sniff test and left with an empty growler
I did like the Union Old Pro Gose tho

also tryin to decide for tomorrow...
Sour Week at the Partisan (http://thepartisandc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Cocktails-Beer-9.28.16-DCBW-EDITION.pdf)
Handsome Beer Co. Goes Belgian @ Brasserie Beck
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 29, 2016, 09:07:44 am
Ok beer nerds. Which five from this list would you pick to enjoy with your partner in crime over a leisurely two hour dinner??? This was the beer list for the Smoke and Barrel Anniversary Party Tuesday. No cover charges, no sunglasses, but there was a wing-eating contest (?!). Of course, we went on Wednesday, when their were half priced drafts (but no wing-eating contest).

 At some point, I'll post my five picks as well as reviews of the beers.

1. Victory Prima Pils
2. Port City Optimal Wit
3. RAR Nanticoke Nectar
4. Bold Rock Crimson Ridge Vat No. 1 Cider
5. DC Brau Oktoberfest
6. Firestone Helldorado
7. Ocelot Planets Align IPA
8. Ommegang Barrel-Aged 3 Philosophers
9. RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA
10. Atlas Rowdier
11. Perennial Von Pampelmuse
12. Allagash Avance
13. Right Proper Kick Kick Snare
14. Wicked Weed Marina
15. Manor Hill Hidden Hopyard 5
16. Smuttynose Orville
17. Founders KBS
18. Fremont Bourbon Aboninable Winter Ale
19. Firestone Walker Krieky Bones
20. Logsdon Szech N? Brett
21. Otter Creek 25th Anniversary Imperial IPL
22. Fair Winds Masthead Mosaic
23. 3 Stars Two Headed Unicorn
24. 3 Stars Pounding Trees
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 29, 2016, 09:13:02 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 29, 2016, 09:07:44 am
Ok beer nerds. Which five from this list would you pick to enjoy with your partner in crime over a leisurely two hour dinner??? This was the beer list for the Smoke and Barrel Anniversary Party Tuesday. No cover charges, no sunglasses, but there was a wing-eating contest (?!). Of course, we went on Wednesday, when their were half priced drafts (but no wing-eating contest).

 At some point, I'll post my five picks as well as reviews of the beers.

1. Victory Prima Pils
2. Port City Optimal Wit
3. RAR Nanticoke Nectar
4. Bold Rock Crimson Ridge Vat No. 1 Cider
5. DC Brau Oktoberfest
6. Firestone Helldorado
7. Ocelot Planets Align IPA
8. Ommegang Barrel-Aged 3 Philosophers
9. RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA
10. Atlas Rowdier
11. Perennial Von Pampelmuse
12. Allagash Avance
13. Right Proper Kick Kick Snare
14. Wicked Weed Marina
15. Manor Hill Hidden Hopyard 5
16. Smuttynose Orville
17. Founders KBS
18. Fremont Bourbon Aboninable Winter Ale
19. Firestone Walker Krieky Bones
20. Logsdon Szech N? Brett
21. Otter Creek 25th Anniversary Imperial IPL
22. Fair Winds Masthead Mosaic
23. 3 Stars Two Headed Unicorn
24. 3 Stars Pounding Trees

6. Firestone Helldorado
14. Wicked Weed Marina
17. Founders KBS
19. Firestone Walker Krieky Bones
20. Logsdon Szech N? Brett


I'd then wash all those downs with a half pour of one of the IPAs, most likely the RARted because I've never had it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 29, 2016, 09:29:25 am
6. Firestone Helldorado
9. RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA
18. Fremont Bourbon Aboninable Winter Ale
19. Firestone Walker Krieky Bones
20. Logsdon Szech N? Brett
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on September 29, 2016, 09:30:53 am
I tried a few Wicked Weed sours for the first time last weekend and Marina was my favorite, great beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 29, 2016, 10:46:41 am
Underground pipeline for beer becomes operational!
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/19/news/beer-pipeline-bruges-belgium/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 29, 2016, 02:37:00 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 29, 2016, 09:29:25 am
6. Firestone Helldorado
9. RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA
18. Fremont Bourbon Aboninable Winter Ale
19. Firestone Walker Krieky Bones
20. Logsdon Szech N? Brett


That's close to what I chose. We were only going to have the first four, but then opted for a fifth...Manor HillHidden Hopyard 5.

FW Helldorado-first had this at a Firestone Walker event, liked it even more than Sucaba, Parabola, and the Anniversary beer (forget what vintage). Even my wife, who doesn't like bourbon aged beers, though it was excellent.

RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA-this was excellent. Hoof Hearted (and RAR) knows how to make hoppy beers for sure, even if their customer service (HH, not RAR) at their brewpub sucks.

Fremont Bourbon Abominable Winter Ale=this might be my favorite barrel-aged stout. For me it beat KBS in a side by side at the Founders/Fremont thing at Meridian Pint...plus I have KBS sitting at home and no Abominable. Amazing paired with the double chocolate cheesecake.

Firestone Walker Krieky Bones- had never heard of this beer, but I'm a sucker for anything with cherry, and if FW is making it, you know it's going to be excellent. And it was.

Manor Hill Hidden Hopyard 5-I had every intention of getting the Ocelot (or the Wicked Weed, the Lodgson, or the KBS, but gotta please my hophead wife)...but when I saw the description of this one "hazy New England style DIPA with Citra and Mosaic" I knew I had to try it. It looked, smelled, and tasted like an Aslin DIPA...if you had told me it was an Aslin beer, I wouldn't have second-guessed at all...it was that great.

So five for five, all of them were excellent.




Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on September 29, 2016, 02:43:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 29, 2016, 02:37:00 pm
Manor Hill Hidden Hopyard 5-I had every intention of getting the Ocelot (or the Wicked Weed, the Lodgson, or the KBS, but gotta please my hophead wife)...but when I saw the description of this one "hazy New England style DIPA with Citra and Mosaic" I knew I had to try it. It looked, smelled, and tasted like an Aslin DIPA...if you had told me it was an Aslin beer, I wouldn't have second-guessed at all...it was that great.

Totally agree.  The fam and I went to Manor Hill last weekend.  It's a really nice place.  They take reservations, so it didn't get too crowded.  Lots of space for kids to run around and not bother childless patrons.  The beer was really solid too.  Hidden Hopyard 5 was a major crowd pleaser.  We grabbed some four packs of that and the Citra Splendor, which was also awesome, to take home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 29, 2016, 02:51:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 29, 2016, 02:37:00 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 29, 2016, 09:29:25 am
6. Firestone Helldorado
9. RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA
18. Fremont Bourbon Aboninable Winter Ale
19. Firestone Walker Krieky Bones
20. Logsdon Szech N? Brett


That's close to what I chose. We were only going to have the first four, but then opted for a fifth...Manor HillHidden Hopyard 5.

FW Helldorado-first had this at a Firestone Walker event, liked it even more than Sucaba, Parabola, and the Anniversary beer (forget what vintage). Even my wife, who doesn't like bourbon aged beers, though it was excellent.

RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA-this was excellent. Hoof Hearted (and RAR) knows how to make hoppy beers for sure, even if their customer service (HH, not RAR) at their brewpub sucks.

Fremont Bourbon Abominable Winter Ale=this might be my favorite barrel-aged stout. For me it beat KBS in a side by side at the Founders/Fremont thing at Meridian Pint...plus I have KBS sitting at home and no Abominable. Amazing paired with the double chocolate cheesecake.

Firestone Walker Krieky Bones- had never heard of this beer, but I'm a sucker for anything with cherry, and if FW is making it, you know it's going to be excellent. And it was.

Manor Hill Hidden Hopyard 5-I had every intention of getting the Ocelot (or the Wicked Weed, the Lodgson, or the KBS, but gotta please my hophead wife)...but when I saw the description of this one "hazy New England style DIPA with Citra and Mosaic" I knew I had to try it. It looked, smelled, and tasted like an Aslin DIPA...if you had told me it was an Aslin beer, I wouldn't have second-guessed at all...it was that great.

So five for five, all of them were excellent.






That fremont beer isn't a stout is, it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 29, 2016, 03:00:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 29, 2016, 02:51:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 29, 2016, 02:37:00 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 29, 2016, 09:29:25 am
6. Firestone Helldorado
9. RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA
18. Fremont Bourbon Aboninable Winter Ale
19. Firestone Walker Krieky Bones
20. Logsdon Szech N? Brett


That's close to what I chose. We were only going to have the first four, but then opted for a fifth...Manor HillHidden Hopyard 5.

FW Helldorado-first had this at a Firestone Walker event, liked it even more than Sucaba, Parabola, and the Anniversary beer (forget what vintage). Even my wife, who doesn't like bourbon aged beers, though it was excellent.

RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA-this was excellent. Hoof Hearted (and RAR) knows how to make hoppy beers for sure, even if their customer service (HH, not RAR) at their brewpub sucks.

Fremont Bourbon Abominable Winter Ale=this might be my favorite barrel-aged stout. For me it beat KBS in a side by side at the Founders/Fremont thing at Meridian Pint...plus I have KBS sitting at home and no Abominable. Amazing paired with the double chocolate cheesecake.

Firestone Walker Krieky Bones- had never heard of this beer, but I'm a sucker for anything with cherry, and if FW is making it, you know it's going to be excellent. And it was.

Manor Hill Hidden Hopyard 5-I had every intention of getting the Ocelot (or the Wicked Weed, the Lodgson, or the KBS, but gotta please my hophead wife)...but when I saw the description of this one "hazy New England style DIPA with Citra and Mosaic" I knew I had to try it. It looked, smelled, and tasted like an Aslin DIPA...if you had told me it was an Aslin beer, I wouldn't have second-guessed at all...it was that great.

So five for five, all of them were excellent.






That fremont beer isn't a stout is, it?

I think that's a question best answered by Sweetcell, but here's mine...

I know Ratebeer and Beer Advocate call it an "American Strong Ale" (whatever that means), but reading this description from Fremont, how could it not be a stout?

Lovingly referred to by Fremonters as the B-BOMB, this bourbon barrel-aged edition of our winter ale has a warming spicy aroma and rich carmelly notes of bourbon, wood and vanilla added to dark roasty chocolatey malt flavors and subtle hopping.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 29, 2016, 03:20:23 pm
quick answer: based on my recollection of B-Bomb, it rides the line between a spice beer (a winter warmer) and a stout.  it's not quite roasty enough to be a stout, but it's damn roasty for a spice beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 29, 2016, 05:23:14 pm
http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/drink/beer/ct-goose-island-bourbon-county-beers-get-pasteurized-20160929-story.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 29, 2016, 10:39:15 pm
^Louis P would be turning in his grave to think he was associated with killing the live element in beer


went to the Sour Week at the Partisan
The Vine - Cascade was worth mentioning

wasn't a sour but...the Melange #14 - The Bruery  mmmm

also nice bottle selection with Prairie/Avery/The Brurery/Grimm selections
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 30, 2016, 03:21:33 pm
Hey Julian,

I read that Stone RVA has started doing free brewery tours. Any word on whether free beer is included in the tour?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 30, 2016, 03:24:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 30, 2016, 03:21:33 pm
Hey Julian,

I read that Stone RVA has started doing free brewery tours. Any word on whether free beer is included in the tour?
I know nothing about this but I know the exact person to ask. I'll get back to you on this ASAP.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 30, 2016, 03:26:00 pm
[impatiently drums fingers]
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 30, 2016, 03:44:40 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on September 30, 2016, 03:24:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 30, 2016, 03:21:33 pm
Hey Julian,

I read that Stone RVA has started doing free brewery tours. Any word on whether free beer is included in the tour?
I know nothing about this but I know the exact person to ask. I'll get back to you on this ASAP.

I actually called and they told me there's an option for a "guided tasting" after you go on the free tour...no mention of cost, we'll see how long that last.

I've been on the tour at the California brewery, it was pretty entertaining. It did include four sizable sample pours, but I went on it pretty hung over at an early hour and it was hard to enjoy the beer. I think it was free, but they later raised it to a $5 charity donation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 30, 2016, 03:57:52 pm
My friend said he did the unofficial VIP tour and it was a lot of fun but no tastings. He has not done the official tour yet but it sounds like you got your answer via calling. He would highly recommend the tour -- alcohol aside -- as it is a "great look at a major brewery operation" (whatever that means).

As the brewery is less than a mile from my house and you are not Hutch, let me know if you and yours come to do it. Would be delighted to show you hospitality and I will put away all of my knives and put a lock on the HBO to make the place apropos for your child.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 03, 2016, 01:44:07 pm
Maui Brewing Company today. Let's see if the tour bests Coors.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2016, 03:06:59 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 03, 2016, 01:44:07 pm
Maui Brewing Company today. Let's see if the tour bests Coors.

Which island is that one on?, lol.

Their coconut porter is decent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2016, 03:10:00 pm
i had a VA brew I thinkits called godthis keyboard sucks.. my chromebook has an issue

anyways... the FULL NELSON I think... I hate it


I also had the90 minute dogfish IPA. hate it


miller high life.. givesme a headache


its harxd

they had goose ipa at nats stadium.. that I like.. ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 03, 2016, 03:15:14 pm
Quote from: hutch on October 03, 2016, 03:10:00 pm
i had a VA brew I thinkits called godthis keyboard sucks.. my chromebook has an issue

anyways... the FULL NELSON I think... I hate it


I also had the90 minute dogfish IPA. hate it


miller high life.. givesme a headache


its harxd

they had goose ipa at nats stadium.. that I like.. ;D
This post is more fun if we pretend Hutch does not have a keyboard issue but rather this is a result of all these beers he tried.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2016, 03:23:32 pm
Goose IPA is garbage.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2016, 04:59:54 pm
ok what about the agave IPA... i'mnot very bullish on that oneiekther
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2016, 06:52:15 pm
Quote from: hutch on October 03, 2016, 04:59:54 pm
ok what about the agave IPA... i'mnot very bullish on that oneiekther
I tend to like Victory's IPA when fresh (especially Dirt Wolf), but I hae not had that one so can't comment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 05, 2016, 02:39:56 pm
i have a car ride down to the outer banks in my near future, so i'll be driving 95 --> richmond --> norfolk --> OBX.

any worthwhile stops along the way?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 05, 2016, 02:47:08 pm
(disregard)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 05, 2016, 03:20:46 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 05, 2016, 02:39:56 pm
i have a car ride down to the outer banks in my near future, so i'll be driving 95 --> richmond --> norfolk --> OBX.

any worthwhile stops along the way?

Fair Winds in Lorton (10 minutes from my house!)
Mekong, The Answer, The Veil, Stone, Triple Crossing and Hardywood in Richmond
Alewerks in Williamsburg
Green Flash in VA Beach (opening November 13)

*There could be more beyond the Richmond point but I haven't been out that way for several years.
**There's also breweries in Fredericksburg and a couple more in Richmond, but I wouldn't bother.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 05, 2016, 03:40:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 05, 2016, 03:20:46 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 05, 2016, 02:39:56 pm
i have a car ride down to the outer banks in my near future, so i'll be driving 95 --> richmond --> norfolk --> OBX.

any worthwhile stops along the way?

Fair Winds in Lorton (10 minutes from my house!)
Mekong, The Answer, The Veil, Stone, Triple Crossing and Hardywood in Richmond
Alewerks in Williamsburg
Green Flash in VA Beach (opening November 13)

*There could be more beyond the Richmond point but I haven't been out that way for several years.
**There's also breweries in Fredericksburg and a couple more in Richmond, but I wouldn't bother.

Since the reality of you actually stopping at 9 place is probably slim to none, I'd recommend the Richmond area and pick places where you can definitely get beers to go. Space to ounce ratio may vary.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on October 05, 2016, 03:40:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 29, 2016, 09:07:44 am
Ok beer nerds. Which five from this list would you pick to enjoy with your partner in crime over a leisurely two hour dinner??? This was the beer list for the Smoke and Barrel Anniversary Party Tuesday. No cover charges, no sunglasses, but there was a wing-eating contest (?!). Of course, we went on Wednesday, when their were half priced drafts (but no wing-eating contest).

 At some point, I'll post my five picks as well as reviews of the beers.

1. Victory Prima Pils
2. Port City Optimal Wit
3. RAR Nanticoke Nectar
4. Bold Rock Crimson Ridge Vat No. 1 Cider
5. DC Brau Oktoberfest
6. Firestone Helldorado
7. Ocelot Planets Align IPA
8. Ommegang Barrel-Aged 3 Philosophers
9. RAR/Hoof Hearted Hoof RARted Imperial IPA
10. Atlas Rowdier
11. Perennial Von Pampelmuse
12. Allagash Avance
13. Right Proper Kick Kick Snare
14. Wicked Weed Marina
15. Manor Hill Hidden Hopyard 5
16. Smuttynose Orville
17. Founders KBS
18. Fremont Bourbon Aboninable Winter Ale
19. Firestone Walker Krieky Bones
20. Logsdon Szech N? Brett
21. Otter Creek 25th Anniversary Imperial IPL
22. Fair Winds Masthead Mosaic
23. 3 Stars Two Headed Unicorn
24. 3 Stars Pounding Trees

3. RAR Nanticoke Nectar
14. Wicked Weed Marina
18. Fremont Bourbon Aboninable Winter Ale
19. Firestone Walker Krieky Bones
20. Logsdon Szech N? Brett
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 05, 2016, 04:00:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 05, 2016, 03:40:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 05, 2016, 03:20:46 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 05, 2016, 02:39:56 pm
i have a car ride down to the outer banks in my near future, so i'll be driving 95 --> richmond --> norfolk --> OBX.

any worthwhile stops along the way?

Fair Winds in Lorton (10 minutes from my house!)
Mekong, The Answer, The Veil, Stone, Triple Crossing and Hardywood in Richmond
Alewerks in Williamsburg
Green Flash in VA Beach (opening November 13)

*There could be more beyond the Richmond point but I haven't been out that way for several years.
**There's also breweries in Fredericksburg and a couple more in Richmond, but I wouldn't bother.

Since the reality of you actually stopping at 9 place is probably slim to none, I'd recommend the Richmond area and pick places where you can definitely get beers to go. Space to ounce ratio may vary.

I wasn't suggesting he stop at all 9, I was only pointing out the options, and then he could do the research to figure out what met his needs.

If I were picking one to-go stop on that list, it would be growler/crowler fills at the Answer. And take a short time to try some of the Andall concoctions and that aren't takeaway. Have a bahn mi sandwich if you're hungry. Casual and SPACEy enough for the little ones to wander around during off-peak hours if you have them with you as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 05, 2016, 04:21:17 pm
thanks for the advice, spacey.

didn't realize that mekong/the answer, hardywood and the veil are essentially around the corner from each other.

i will be making this drive this weekend.

problem with hitting the answer is that i was hoping to stop in, have a drink then continue on home... with that list, i fear that i won't make it out in a state that i should be driving in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 05, 2016, 06:58:46 pm
avery  rumpkin

avery expletus

bells   third coast old ale

lagunitas   tuberfest

sierra Nevada   octoberfest

goose   experimental  08/16

dominion   hop lips

ninkasi    total domination ipa
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 07, 2016, 07:22:15 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 03, 2016, 03:06:59 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 03, 2016, 01:44:07 pm
Maui Brewing Company today. Let's see if the tour bests Coors.
Their coconut porter is decent.


Yep.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 10, 2016, 12:47:55 pm
Ocelot wins a gold at GABF for their kellerbier, Lost Rhino get a silver for english IPA.
http://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com/the-competition/winners/

Quote from: Space Freely on October 03, 2016, 03:06:59 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 03, 2016, 01:44:07 pm
Maui Brewing Company today. Let's see if the tour bests Coors.
Their coconut porter is decent.

the imperial version won a gold.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 13, 2016, 08:30:02 pm
I know this has been covered previously, but: where does one go for good beer at Nats park?

I'm in section 114, if that's helpful... Found some Devil's Backbone space something pale ale: acceptable but would be interested in something else.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 13, 2016, 08:38:28 pm
Drink pbr . . . Spit it into the air and scream.  Isn't that what the kids are doing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 13, 2016, 08:45:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 13, 2016, 08:30:02 pm
I know this has been covered previously, but: where does one go for good beer at Nats park?

I'm in section 114, if that's helpful... Found some Devil's Backbone space something pale ale: acceptable but would be interested in something else.

AB Inbev completely took over the Red Porch, which used to be best.

On the upper deck there's a couple of District Drafts with local selections (Brau, 3 Stars, Port City, etc), nothing special though. There's one place that sells food on the upper deck with a Brau option....and bigger cups that District Draft....but don't recall the name.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 08:54:58 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 13, 2016, 08:30:02 pm
I know this has been covered previously, but: where does one go for good beer at Nats park?

I'm in section 114, if that's helpful... Found some Devil's Backbone space something pale ale: acceptable but would be interested in something else.

The bud lights tasted amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 14, 2016, 10:11:05 am
Every beer has a time and place.  Bud Light might be perfect for a baseball game.  At Memorial Stadium.  In the bleachers.  Under the August sun.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 10:15:17 am
Quote from: I don't know why you calll me cousin oliver on October 14, 2016, 10:11:05 am
Every beer has a time and place.  Bud Light might be perfect for a baseball game.  At Memorial Stadium.  In the bleachers.  Under the August sun.

Seeking out shitty craft beer in a stadium when there is an abundance of amazing macro beers at your fingertips seems like a waste of time, IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2016, 11:27:47 am
so the DB beer that i had was Space Fruit (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/18539/225139/).  entirely acceptable.

in a fit of laziness i got a can of Goose Island IPA.  canned on: july 20.  WTF, ABI?!?!?!?!?  if you're going to take over a joint and serve 90% of the beer there, you should have a decent supply chain that can ensure fresh beer.  or at least reasonably fresh.  the beer was boring, bordering on bad.  that'll teach me to be a sloth. 

ended the night with an Atlas Rowdy, a highly-hopped rye beer - if it has a little less malt character, it would be a rye IPA.  i can see how it might not be for everybody as there are a lot of strong flavors bumping up against each other, but it worked for me.  it was a tie for me between the space fruit and rowdy.

saw some 3 Stars saison at a few "district brews" bars. likely would have been my next beer had i not run out of time, money, and irresponsibility.  i'm sure i'm much better off this morning for having cut myself off.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 11:31:50 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 14, 2016, 11:27:47 am
so the DB beer that i had was Space Fruit (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/18539/225139/).  entirely acceptable.

in a fit of laziness i got a can of Goose Island IPA.  canned on: july 20.  WTF, ABI?!?!?!?!?  if you're going to take over a joint and serve 90% of the beer there, you should have a decent supply chain that can ensure fresh beer.  or at least reasonably fresh.  the beer was boring, bordering on bad.  that'll teach me to be a sloth. 

ended the night with an Atlas Rowdy, a highly-hopped rye beer - if it has a little less malt character, it would be a rye IPA.  i can see how it might not be for everybody as there are a lot of strong flavors bumping up against each other, but it worked for me.  it was a tie for me between the space fruit and rowdy.

saw some 3 Stars saison at a few "district brews" bars. likely would have been my next beer had i not run out of time, money, and irresponsibility.  i'm sure i'm much better off this morning for having cut myself off.

All I can taste today is bud light and boiled hot dogs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 14, 2016, 11:34:50 am
Quote from: Yada on October 14, 2016, 11:31:50 am
All I can taste today is bud light and boiled hot dogs.

(http://i.giphy.com/x0kMYoT7J31i8.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2016, 12:23:01 pm
so here's a story that i'm still digesting: the "disruptive investment" arm of AB Inbev has just bought the largest online retailer of homebrew supplies.

short: http://mnbeeractivists.com/newsfeed/northern-brewer-midwest-supplies-acquired-ab-inbev

long: http://bevinsights.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=26852:abi-gets-into-homebrew

reddit discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/comments/57c9me/its_official_northern_brewer_midwest_has/

i can't figure out how this makes sense for ABI.  any profits generated from this venture will be less than a rounding error for them.  some have speculated that they want access to the customer base, but homebrewers are among the unfriendliest segments for macros.  other said they want the marketing data - but this seems like an expensive way of getting the data.  besides, they have a huge market research operation already...

despite not being able to explain it, i don't like it.  stay outta my grains and kettles, BMCs!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 14, 2016, 12:37:08 pm
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Stone-Brewing-Announces-Layoffs-397019651.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2016, 01:22:17 pm
Quote from: I don't know why you calll me cousin oliver on October 14, 2016, 10:11:05 am
Bud Light might be perfect for a baseball game. 

yes, it might be, for some!

Quote from: Yada on October 14, 2016, 10:15:17 am
Seeking out shitty craft beer in a stadium when there is an abundance of amazing macro beers at your fingertips seems like a waste of time, IMO.

"amazing macro beers"?  for me, there aren't any.  i gave GI IPA a try and regretted it.

macros are at best serviceable: they are liquid so they quench thirst, they contain alcohol so they get you drunk.  but i like flavor along with those two (sometimes i'd be happy with only the flavor).  most macros are brewed specifically to have less flavor.  this helps with "drinkability" (AKA the ability to drink a lot of it).

i will concede that my insistence on craft beer did result in some wasted time: instead of grabbing a bud light from the vendors in the bleachers, i had to get up and find a bar in the concourse that sold craft.  i missed a few plays because i was standing in line.  mind you, over a 4:45 game i didn't mind it tooooo much :)

Quote from: Yada on October 14, 2016, 11:31:50 am
All I can taste today is bud light and boiled hot dogs.

nice!  i woke up this morning with the taste of jerk ribs and hops ;D

p.s. we should probably brush our teeth more thoroughly before bed to ensure that last night's meal isn't with us the morning after...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 02:27:46 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 14, 2016, 01:22:17 pm
Quote from: I don't know why you calll me cousin oliver on October 14, 2016, 10:11:05 am
Bud Light might be perfect for a baseball game. 

yes, it might be, for some!

Quote from: Yada on October 14, 2016, 10:15:17 am
Seeking out shitty craft beer in a stadium when there is an abundance of amazing macro beers at your fingertips seems like a waste of time, IMO.

"amazing macro beers"?  for me, there aren't any.  i gave GI IPA a try and regretted it.

macros are at best serviceable: they are liquid so they quench thirst, they contain alcohol so they get you drunk.  but i like flavor along with those two (sometimes i'd be happy with only the flavor).  most macros are brewed specifically to have less flavor.  this helps with "drinkability" (AKA the ability to drink a lot of it).

i will concede that my insistence on craft beer did result in some wasted time: instead of grabbing a bud light from the vendors in the bleachers, i had to get up and find a bar in the concourse that sold craft.  i missed a few plays because i was standing in line.  mind you, over a 4:45 game i didn't mind it tooooo much :)

Quote from: Yada on October 14, 2016, 11:31:50 am
All I can taste today is bud light and boiled hot dogs.

nice!  i woke up this morning with the taste of jerk ribs and hops ;D

p.s. we should probably brush our teeth more thoroughly before bed to ensure that last night's meal isn't with us the morning after...

I was joking about the amazing macros... I just don't think Nats offers anything worth waiting in line for when you can simply have mr beerman give you a bud light lime and a thumbs up!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 02:59:38 pm
Back to beers that matter.

A few recent brewery trips/mini space reviews:

Sloop Brewing Company

Location: Elizaville, NY
Environment: Great tasting room, friendly workers, tons of outdoor space with fields of wildflowers, a play set for the kids, and a few springer spaniels running around - A+
Music: We spent most of our time out doors - n/a
Food: I think they have food trucks some times (not the day we were there), small snacks for sale like pretzels, did buy some fresh honey and maple syrup (expensive but both excellent) - B -
Beer: Killer! Tried a sampler of 10 which included Juice Bomb as well as all the variants (simcoe, galaxy, citra, amarillo). Each one was delicious except the Amarillo (maybe just a personal preference, but didn't dig it). All Day Rose was tasty while drinking it there on a crisp sunny fall day, however the growler I brought home didn't hold up in comparison to higher end sours. Saur Peach was also pretty tasty but was an enamel buster. Would return again. - A


Brew Gentlemen

Location: Braddock, Pa (Pittsburgh)
Environment: In the hood, gorgeous space, hipsters galore, could be a page right out of the neighborhood restaurant group bible, dog friendly, not kid friendly at least at 8pm on a Saturday night - A
Music: Houses of the Holy was on while I was there - A
Food: A mexican food truck was outside while I was there, didn't not partake. - n/a
Beer: Ohhhhhh weeeee!!! Super good, don't miss this place if you're in the Burgh'. Two big juice bombs (General Braddock's IPA and Kaubto which was a double IPA), Momo which reminded me of a light trillium juice bomb, Mexican Coffee (kind of a weak attempt at an Abraxas, way too thin but tasted good), and Mr. Automatic which was a porter and good enough. - A
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 03:10:18 pm
Beer faceoff:

Stone Xocoveza vs Weyerbacher Sunday Mole Stout

Price: Stone, $10.99 six pack Weyerbacher, $15.99/ four pack (only bought a single @$4.49)

ABV: Stone 8.1%, Weyerbacher, 11.3%

Descriptions:
Stone: This take on Mexican hot chocolate is crafted with cocoa, coffee, pasilla peppers, vanilla, cinnamon and nutmeg.
Weyerbacher: Imperial stout brewed with cocoa, cinnamon and peppers.


Results:
Stone 2, Weyerbacher 0. The Weyerbacher was way to boozy with a chemical-ly taste to it. My wife hated it so much she took one sip of her half and told me I could have the rest. I didn't hate it as much as she did, but glad I only bought one. The Stone otoh, excellent for the third year in a row and a great price to boot. May have to pick up another sixer.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on October 14, 2016, 03:12:51 pm
I just had my first la folie.  Quite delicious and $6 for an 11 ounce pour.  I forget that not everywhere has DC prices.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 03:43:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 03:10:18 pm
Beer faceoff:

Stone Xocoveza vs Weyerbacher Sunday Mole Stout

Price: Stone, $10.99 six pack Weyerbacher, $15.99/ four pack (only bought a single @$4.49)

ABV: Stone 8.1%, Weyerbacher, 11.3%

Descriptions:
Stone: This take on Mexican hot chocolate is crafted with cocoa, coffee, pasilla peppers, vanilla, cinnamon and nutmeg.
Weyerbacher: Imperial stout brewed with cocoa, cinnamon and peppers.


Results:
Stone 2, Weyerbacher 0. The Weyerbacher was way to boozy with a chemical-ly taste to it. My wife hated it so much she took one sip of her half and told me I could have the rest. I didn't hate it as much as she did, but glad I only bought one. The Stone otoh, excellent for the third year in a row and a great price to boot. May have to pick up another sixer.



Edit: Damn, I should have bought more of the Stone beer at that price. It's now listing at $16.99 at Total Wine, I paid $11.99 minus a $1 coupon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 14, 2016, 04:32:33 pm
(https://cdn.beeradvocate.com/im/beers/169015.jpg)
was excited to try this (Sour DIPA)
but wasn't as good as I hoped
label sure is cool tho


But my beer of the week is The Oxercist II
probably my favorite Pumpkin beer and Old Ox brew to date

close second
The Calling - Boulevard

Who knew that the Grape and Bean (http://www.grapeandbean.com/pages/Rosemont.html) in an odd spot in Alexandria (Rosemont) would have some  of the tastiest beer on tap (and excellent bottle shop)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 04:38:35 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on October 14, 2016, 04:32:33 pm
(https://cdn.beeradvocate.com/im/beers/169015.jpg)
was excited to try this (Sour DIPA)
but wasn't as good as I hoped
label sure is cool tho


But my beer of the week is The Oxercist II
probably my favorite Pumpkin beer and Old Ox brew to date

close second
The Calling - Boulevard

Who knew that the Grape and Bean (http://www.grapeandbean.com/pages/Rosemont.html) in an odd spot in Alexandria (Rosemont) would have some  of the tastiest beer on tap (and excellent bottle shop)


Sour/IPAs don't mix as far as I'm concerned. Nor do salt and IPAs... finally had a few Veil beers that don't live up to the hype. $alt Lyfe was pretty mediocre followed by That Part which was maybe one of the worst beers I've ever had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 04:46:21 pm
Interesting. I got two try a bunch of new Wicked Weed beers with their recent local drop. The Amorous Sour IPA was my favorite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 14, 2016, 04:57:29 pm
I saw that some bottle shop on Wisconsin has wicked weed
is that becoming more available in the DMV now?
I know S&B had that tasting, but does anyone have that on tap?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 05:01:26 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on October 14, 2016, 04:57:29 pm
I saw that some bottle shop on Wisconsin has wicked weed
is that becoming more available in the DMV now?
I know S&B had that tasting, but does anyone have that on tap?

Bottles appear to be pretty widely available right now. Not sure on the draft. One source said it would be infrequent but who knows.

https://www.beermenus.com/breweries/6105-wicked-weed-brewing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 14, 2016, 05:08:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 05:01:26 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on October 14, 2016, 04:57:29 pm
I saw that some bottle shop on Wisconsin has wicked weed
is that becoming more available in the DMV now?
I know S&B had that tasting, but does anyone have that on tap?

Bottles appear to be pretty widely available right now. Not sure on the draft. One source said it would be infrequent but who knows.

https://www.beermenus.com/breweries/6105-wicked-weed-brewing
Was trying to navigate Beermenus before posting with no luck
but by gosh Lost Dog Cafe Alexandria has Benevolence on tap (10oz Draft for $13)
wonder how much they'd charge for a growler :)...$80
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 05:15:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 04:46:21 pm
Interesting. I got two try a bunch of new Wicked Weed beers with their recent local drop. The Amorous Sour IPA was my favorite.

I guess we like different beers??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 05:17:00 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on October 14, 2016, 05:08:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 05:01:26 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on October 14, 2016, 04:57:29 pm
I saw that some bottle shop on Wisconsin has wicked weed
is that becoming more available in the DMV now?
I know S&B had that tasting, but does anyone have that on tap?

Bottles appear to be pretty widely available right now. Not sure on the draft. One source said it would be infrequent but who knows.

https://www.beermenus.com/breweries/6105-wicked-weed-brewing
Was trying to navigate Beermenus before posting with no luck
but by gosh Lost Dog Cafe Alexandria has Benevolence on tap (10oz Draft for $13)
wonder how much they'd charge for a growler :)...$80

For that price I'll take two La Folies mentioned on the previous page.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 05:17:39 pm
Quote from: SidebySide 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on October 14, 2016, 04:57:29 pm
I saw that some bottle shop on Wisconsin has wicked weed
is that becoming more available in the DMV now?
I know S&B had that tasting, but does anyone have that on tap?

They're basically at any shop in the DV area that is a good shop. I highly recommend this one... probably my favorite Wicked Weed beer.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30581/229979/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 05:18:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 14, 2016, 05:15:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 04:46:21 pm
Interesting. I got two try a bunch of new Wicked Weed beers with their recent local drop. The Amorous Sour IPA was my favorite.

I guess we like different beers??

I liked it but I wasn't dropping $19 on the 500ml bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 17, 2016, 04:31:24 pm
LoL

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/advertising-slogans-any-craft-brewery-is-free-to-use

Stolen from a fellow boardies FB wall.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 17, 2016, 04:54:49 pm
Yay MoCo!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/10/11/the-beer-list-at-owens-ordinary-in-north-bethesda-is-good-enough-to-be-the-envy-of-any-d-c-bar/?postshare=6211476727957337&tid=ss_tw

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 17, 2016, 08:10:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 17, 2016, 04:31:24 pm
LoL

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/advertising-slogans-any-craft-brewery-is-free-to-use

Stolen from a fellow boardies FB wall.
?Because if you drank the number of regular beers it would take to get you this drunk, people would think you had a problem.?
I can relate to that one
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 17, 2016, 08:25:30 pm
Wow lots of hop goodness about to hit the market.

12 packs of FRESH Lagunitas Sucks
Lagunitas Born Yesterday
Founders Harvest Ale
Victory Harvest Ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 17, 2016, 09:24:54 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 17, 2016, 08:25:30 pm
Wow lots of hop goodness about to hit the market.

12 packs of FRESH Lagunitas Sucks


I'm not getting it if you think it sucks...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 17, 2016, 09:37:30 pm
I'm kinda sad . . . I can't drink, for awhile. Doctor, says so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 18, 2016, 09:09:05 am
so I have The Can Manufacturers Institute  as a client
and read this beer related tid bit on their site I thought would be fun to share with the class
 
Go RVA

The first can of beer was sold January 24, 1935 in Richmond, Virginia. It was brewed by Kreuger Beer and came in a steel can made by the American Can Company. This tall cold one?a flat or punch top can?required a can opener. By August of that year, Pabst had become the first major brewer to add canned beer to its regular product line. And shortly thereafter, in September 1935, two beer makers, Schlitzlager and Heilman Lager, introduced the cone top can made by the Continental Can Company which, because it was similar in shape to a bottle, could be run through existing glass bottling lines. Schlitz had experimented with a barrel-shaped can, but introduced their beer in a spout-topped can that year as well.

Always wondered why the Conetop cans existed (in that they seemed so much harder to produce) but using the existing bottling lines makes a lot of sense now
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 18, 2016, 09:41:59 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 17, 2016, 08:25:30 pm
Wow lots of hop goodness about to hit the market.

12 packs of FRESH Lagunitas Sucks
Lagunitas Born Yesterday
Founders Harvest Ale
Victory Harvest Ale

Interesting... I saw Founders Harvest ale over a month ago in PA and NY, so unless it's a new batch it's already at least a month old.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 18, 2016, 09:53:56 am
Tried Rar for the first time yesterday - found a 6 of Nanticoke Nectar.  I'm quite pleased by this development.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 18, 2016, 09:55:29 am
Quote from: Yada on October 18, 2016, 09:41:59 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 17, 2016, 08:25:30 pm
Wow lots of hop goodness about to hit the market.

12 packs of FRESH Lagunitas Sucks
Lagunitas Born Yesterday
Founders Harvest Ale
Victory Harvest Ale

Interesting... I saw Founders Harvest ale over a month ago in PA and NY, so unless it's a new batch it's already at least a month old.

Are you sure it was 2016 Founders Harvest Ale? They just had their Harvest Party at the brewery three days ago.

https://foundersbrewing.com/taproom-events/13th-annual-harvest-party/

I ask because I was actually still seeing 2015 Harvest Ale at at least one store in the Summer.

Also, their website says it's an October release.

https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/harvest-ale/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 18, 2016, 10:08:12 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 18, 2016, 09:55:29 am
Quote from: Yada on October 18, 2016, 09:41:59 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 17, 2016, 08:25:30 pm
Wow lots of hop goodness about to hit the market.

12 packs of FRESH Lagunitas Sucks
Lagunitas Born Yesterday
Founders Harvest Ale
Victory Harvest Ale

Interesting... I saw Founders Harvest ale over a month ago in PA and NY, so unless it's a new batch it's already at least a month old.

Are you sure it was 2016 Founders Harvest Ale? They just had their Harvest Party at the brewery three days ago.

https://foundersbrewing.com/taproom-events/13th-annual-harvest-party/

I ask because I was actually still seeing 2015 Harvest Ale at at least one store in the Summer.

Also, their website says it's an October release.

https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/harvest-ale/

I can't say i even looked at the label as i wasn't interested in purchasing it... but maybe that was the case?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 18, 2016, 11:28:21 am
Quote from: hutch on October 17, 2016, 09:24:54 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 17, 2016, 08:25:30 pm
Wow lots of hop goodness about to hit the market.

12 packs of FRESH Lagunitas Sucks


I'm not getting it if you think it sucks...

in case you're being serious: "sucks" is the name of the beer (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/74986/).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 18, 2016, 11:29:32 am
Quote from: Yada on October 17, 2016, 04:54:49 pm
Yay MoCo!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/10/11/the-beer-list-at-owens-ordinary-in-north-bethesda-is-good-enough-to-be-the-envy-of-any-d-c-bar/?postshare=6211476727957337&tid=ss_tw

this is like a dream come true.  i have a tear in my eye right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 03:44:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 18, 2016, 09:55:29 am
Founders Harvest Ale

I've never had this and am fairly excited about it.

What can anyone here tell me about Right Proper? Worth the trip?  Looks like most of the stuff is low octane.

Also looking for Stone Tangerine Enjoy by 10.31.16 if anyone has seen it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 18, 2016, 03:54:39 pm
last years, founders harvest ale, was not good, in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 03:58:35 pm
Had you, had it, previously?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 18, 2016, 04:01:01 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 03:58:35 pm
Had you, had it, previously?

I've, had it... multple years... and it's decent at best. Used to be stellar but there's just too many good hoppy offerings these days to settle for mediocrity.

Re: Right Proper. It took me a solid four visits to find one beer there I really liked, but if you like those styles of beers, you'd probably dig it. I'd rather spend a few hours drinking at CK than there, personally. Space, feel free to slaughter this post.

edit: if you're looking for hoppy beers, definitely not the best place to go.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 18, 2016, 04:03:03 pm
fully, agree with yada
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 18, 2016, 04:03:36 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 18, 2016, 04:03:03 pm
fully, agree with yada
Is it because he threw a random comma in the middle of his first sentence?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 18, 2016, 04:03:40 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 03:44:55 pm
What can anyone here tell me about Right Proper? Worth the trip?  Looks like most of the stuff is low octane.

i've only been to the brookland tasting room, not the production facility, and i thought it was worth the trip each time.  octane might be low but flavors are high.  if your main concern is tying one on (AKA get crunk), they always have a few offerings north of 6% including guest taps which aren't listed on their website.  don't sleep on their lower ABV stuff.  some of those sours and saisons are damn tasty.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 03:44:55 pm
Also looking for Stone Tangerine Enjoy by 10.31.16 if anyone has seen it.

on tap at Owens Ordinary in Rockville ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 18, 2016, 04:04:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 18, 2016, 04:03:40 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 03:44:55 pm
Also looking for Stone Tangerine Enjoy by 10.31.16 if anyone has seen it.

on tap at Owens Ordinary in Rockville ;D
Also the Stone Brewery less than a mile from me but that's perhaps even less helpful than Sweets' suggestion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 18, 2016, 04:09:07 pm
I enjoyed Right Proper's Diamonds Fur Coat Berliner Weisse.  It would be refreshing in this unseasonably hot weather.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 18, 2016, 04:09:33 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 18, 2016, 04:09:07 pm
I enjoyed Right Proper's Diamonds Fur Coat Berliner Weisse.  It would be refreshing in this unseasonably hot weather.

^^that's the beer that hooked me^^

Good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 04:12:57 pm
Good stuff folks, thanks. Normally, I'm all about the hops but I do need some mellower for the 6 hour tailgates. Last week I took some Ocelot and it caught up with me pretty quickly.

I can stop by the Bethesda spot, I guess, but I'd love to get the Stone Tangerine home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 18, 2016, 04:14:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 18, 2016, 04:03:40 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 03:44:55 pm
What can anyone here tell me about Right Proper? Worth the trip?  Looks like most of the stuff is low octane.

i've only been to the brookland tasting room, not the production facility, and i thought it was worth the trip each time.  octane might be low but flavors are high.  if your main concern is tying one on (AKA get crunk), they always have a few offerings north of 6% including guest taps which aren't listed on their website.  don't sleep on their lower ABV stuff.  some of those sours and saisons are damn tasty.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 03:44:55 pm
Also looking for Stone Tangerine Enjoy by 10.31.16 if anyone has seen it.

on tap at Owens Ordinary in Rockville ;D

I love love love Right Proper. The Brookland location actually IS the production facility, though they still brew beer at the Shaw Brewpub at well. The latter is my go to place before 9:30 shows.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 18, 2016, 04:14:04 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 04:12:57 pm
Good stuff folks, thanks. Normally, I'm all about the hops but I do need some mellower for the 6 hour tailgates. Last week I took some Ocelot and it caught up with me pretty quickly.

I can stop by the Bethesda spot, I guess, but I'd love to get the Stone Tangerine home.

Crow, I can't recall where you reside, but any decent bottle store in the DMV should have that beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 04:29:06 pm
In MoCo. I had it at the San Diego joint last year but came home and never saw a bottle of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 18, 2016, 04:49:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 18, 2016, 04:09:33 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 18, 2016, 04:09:07 pm
I enjoyed Right Proper's Diamonds Fur Coat Berliner Weisse.  It would be refreshing in this unseasonably hot weather.

^^that's the beer that hooked me^^

Good stuff.
I agree this is a excellent beer

It may be the only RP I have ever had (actually before a 930 show they had it on tap at Satellite room)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 19, 2016, 10:46:16 am
Has anybody tried/heard of Tavour (http://www.tavour.com/?invitedby=132259) yet?  They don't come to MD or VA yet, but they offer "hard to find" beers, and ship to DC for a flat rate, on demand...

Wonder what they mean by "hard to find"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on October 19, 2016, 12:30:07 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 18, 2016, 03:44:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 18, 2016, 09:55:29 am
Founders Harvest Ale

I've never had this and am fairly excited about it.

What can anyone here tell me about Right Proper? Worth the trip?  Looks like most of the stuff is low octane.

Also looking for Stone Tangerine Enjoy by 10.31.16 if anyone has seen it.

Norm's had a ton of Tangerine when I was in Vienna last week. It's really, really good. 9.4% tho  :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 19, 2016, 04:17:53 pm
This seems like a sidebeer interest.

http://www.grindtv.com/gear/portable-beer-keg-take-off-grid-mancan/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=58078bda04d301592d507b55&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook#Ac7i16DeOKs3u7E4.97
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 19, 2016, 04:21:38 pm
KBC IPA is hideous... horrible.. tastes like I'm drinking cough syrup.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 19, 2016, 04:23:05 pm
Quote from: I don't know why you calll me cousin oliver on October 19, 2016, 10:46:16 am
Has anybody tried/heard of Tavour (http://www.tavour.com/?invitedby=132259) yet?  They don't come to MD or VA yet, but they offer "hard to find" beers, and ship to DC for a flat rate, on demand...

Wonder what they mean by "hard to find"

Interesting... I thought I never heard of it, yet, I guess I have an account... and after further review, I think I get junk email from them daily and they're usually pushing some maltbomb TRIPA from the Pac NW or $30 Cascade bottles.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 20, 2016, 08:31:17 pm
on tap at Arlington brew shop (as well as some bottles)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvPjHesVYAA0r6V.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvKC4_3UIAERxUF.jpg:large)
of course they don't have the one yada suggested
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 08:40:47 am
Who needs those overpriced Wicked Weed sours anyway when you can get La Folie or Le Terroir for $16 a bomber?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 21, 2016, 08:45:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 08:40:47 am
Who needs those overpriced Wicked Weed sours anyway when you can get La Folie or Le Terroir for $16 a bomber?

Classic space.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 21, 2016, 09:41:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 08:40:47 am
Who needs those overpriced Wicked Weed sours anyway when you can get La Folie or Le Terroir for $16 a bomber?

foggy bottom WF has wicked weed 500's for $14.  that's within striking distance of a $16 650 of New Belgium sours...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 21, 2016, 09:58:31 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 21, 2016, 09:41:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 08:40:47 am
Who needs those overpriced Wicked Weed sours anyway when you can get La Folie or Le Terroir for $16 a bomber?

foggy bottom WF has wicked weed 500's for $14.  that's within striking distance of a $16 650 of New Belgium sours...

Sweet, #allcentsmatter
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 21, 2016, 10:06:45 am
$14 for 17 ounces?  That's like a $60 six pack.  Is it that good?

#bombersarearipoff
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 21, 2016, 10:12:43 am
Quote from: I don't know why you calll me cousin oliver on October 21, 2016, 10:06:45 am
$14 for 17 ounces?  That's like a $60 six pack.  Is it that good?

#bombersarearipoff

#notiftheydontcomeinsixpacks
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 10:20:07 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 21, 2016, 09:41:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 08:40:47 am
Who needs those overpriced Wicked Weed sours anyway when you can get La Folie or Le Terroir for $16 a bomber?

foggy bottom WF has wicked weed 500's for $14.  that's within striking distance of a $16 650 of New Belgium sours...

That's a decent price. At Total Wine VA and Craft Beer Cellar DC, there were a couple of WW 500's that were in the $20 range.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 21, 2016, 10:25:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 10:20:07 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 21, 2016, 09:41:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 08:40:47 am
Who needs those overpriced Wicked Weed sours anyway when you can get La Folie or Le Terroir for $16 a bomber?

foggy bottom WF has wicked weed 500's for $14.  that's within striking distance of a $16 650 of New Belgium sours...

That's a decent price. At Total Wine VA and Craft Beer Cellar DC, there were a couple of WW 500's that were in the $20 range.

It depends on the bottles. That peach wild I love I've seen for $12.99 in DC. My old wicked weed connect used to purchase them for the same amount in NC. Some of their sours even in NC are $18.99 a bottle, so in reality a one dollar mark up isn't too bad, but in general just a pricey brewery no matter where you purchase.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 10:45:20 am
Quote from: Yada on October 21, 2016, 10:25:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 10:20:07 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 21, 2016, 09:41:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 08:40:47 am
Who needs those overpriced Wicked Weed sours anyway when you can get La Folie or Le Terroir for $16 a bomber?

foggy bottom WF has wicked weed 500's for $14.  that's within striking distance of a $16 650 of New Belgium sours...

That's a decent price. At Total Wine VA and Craft Beer Cellar DC, there were a couple of WW 500's that were in the $20 range.

It depends on the bottles. That peach wild I love I've seen for $12.99 in DC. My old wicked weed connect used to purchase them for the same amount in NC. Some of their sours even in NC are $18.99 a bottle, so in reality a one dollar mark up isn't too bad, but in general just a pricey brewery no matter where you purchase.

I wonder how their draft prices are in NC. We're hitting Asheville for Spring Break.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 21, 2016, 11:13:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 10:45:20 am
We're hitting Asheville for Spring Break.

TITS OUT FOR THE SOURS WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOO!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 21, 2016, 11:16:45 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 21, 2016, 11:13:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 21, 2016, 10:45:20 am
We're hitting Asheville for Spring Break.

TITS OUT FOR THE SOURS WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOO!!!
DICKS OUT FOR HARAMBE!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 21, 2016, 04:06:04 pm
 Penn Druid / The Veil are making their NOVA debuts at this fest (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/novemberfest-2016-tickets-27391266014?mc_cid=bd5a104288&mc_eid=15dea36213)

And Novemberfest 2016 is happening at Rustico Alexandria on Saturday, November 5 to the tune of  70 local, delicious beers and ciders (see full list below) - brewed by a burgeoning bevy of Virginia craft brewers.

Our rollicking outdoor block party celebrates the season in style with a lineup of craft beers spanning an array of flavors and styles, with 30 of the finest Virginia producers bringing their very best for this occasion. Expect strong stouts and potent porters, pumpkin ales and session brews, fresh-hop harvest ales, IPAs, sours and barrel-aged beauties. And for the second consecutive year, our man Greg Engert is procuring beers from a dozen brewers rarely found in Northern Virginia, a few of which--like Pen Druid, The Veil, and Commonwealth--will be making their Northern Virginia debuts at Novemberfest 2016


AleWerks Fresh Hop VA (Fresh Hop IPA)
AleWerks Rapadou (Oak BA Imperial Porter)
Apocalypse Raspberry Cenful Blonde (Belgian Blond Ale w/ Raspberries)
Apocalypse Winter Snack (Sweet Stout w/ Cocoa Nibs & Oats)
Ardent Wild Saison (Bourbon BA Saison; NOVA DEBUT!)
Ardent New England IPA (American IPA; NOVA DEBUT!)
Blue Mountain Kolsch 151 (Kölsch)
Blue Mountain Hop Duster (Imperial IPA)
Brothers Twilight Years (Black IPA)
Brothers Foreign Waters (American IPA)
Caboose Barrel-Aged Boxcar (Bourbon BA American Brown Ale w/ Maple Syrup; NOVA DEBUT!)
Caboose Vanilla Hobo (Imperial Stout w/ Vanilla)
Champion Megalodon (Imperial Porter w/ Coffee)
Champion Tart Berliner Weiss (Berliner Weiss)
Commonwealth Big Papi (Imperial IPA; NOVA DEBUT!)
Commonwealth Fernweh (White Wine BA Saison; NOVA DEBUT!)
Fair Winds Quayside Kolsch (Kölsch)
Fair Winds Siren?s Lure (Dry-Hopped Saison)
Hardywood Park Trickery (Apple Brandy BA Imperial Stout)
Hardywood Park VIPA (American IPA)
Hardywood Park RVA IPA (American IPA)
Hardywood Park Farmhouse Pumpkin (Pumpkin Saison)
Lickinghole Creek Enlightened Despot (Bourbon BA Imperial Stout)
Lickinghole Creek Bourbon Barrel & Ginger Three Chopt Tripel (Bourbon BA Tripel w/ Ginger)
Lickinghole Creek Coconut Delight (Coconut Rum BA Quadrupel)
Lickinghole Creek Great Commander (Rum BA Imperial Stout w/ Vanilla, Cinnamon & Chilies)
Lost Rhino Face Plant (American IPA)
Lost Rhino Exesus Sanctum (Oak BA Sour Blond Ale w/ Peaches)
Lost Rhino Dark Hours (Imperial Stout)
Lost Rhino Bretty McBrettface (Brett IPA)
Mad Fox Oak Aged Wee Heavy (Rye Whiskey BA Scotch Ale)
Mad Fox Kellerbier Kölsch (Kölsch)
Mustang Sally Irish Red (Irish Red Ale)
Mustang Sally Dortmunder (Pale Lager)
Ocelot Sunnyside Dweller (Pilsner)
Ocelot Watch Me Disappear (American IPA)
Ocelot Feel The Break (Dry-Hopped Wheat Ale)
Ocelot Barrel-Aged Gravity Always Wins (Bourbon BA Scotch Ale)
Old Busthead Sumatra Gold Cup Russian Imperial Stout 2015 (Bourbon BA Imperial Stout w/ Coffee)
Old Bust Head Virginia Hop Harvest 2016 (Fresh Hop IPA)
Old Ox Hoppy Place (American IPA)
Old Ox Funky Face: White Wine (Sour Blond Ale; NOVA DEBUT!)
Old Ox Big Tasty 2015 (Imperial Stout)
Old Ox BrewBocka (Dunkles Bock w/ Coffee; NOVA DEBUT!)
Pale Fire 1, 2, 3, 4! (Fresh Hop Pale Ale; NOVA DEBUT!)
Pale Fire Naïve Melody (Dry-Hopped Saison; NOVA DEBUT!)
Pen Druid Amplified Species (Sour Brown Ale; NOVA DEBUT!)
Pen Druid Earth (Oak BA Saison; NOVA DEBUT!)
Port City COLOSSAL FOUR (Quadrupel)
Port City COLOSSAL FIVE (English Strong Ale)
Port City Long Black Veil (Black IPA)
Smartmouth TBD
Smartmouth TBD
South Street Hop Gothic (Imperial IPA w/ Wheat)
South Street Anastasia?s Chocolate Fantasy (Imperial Stout w/ Oats & Cocoa Nibs)
Starr Hill Helles Bock (Maibock)
Starr Hill Debut Barleywine (English Barleywine)
Strangeways Wake Me Up Before You Gose (Red Wine BA Gose w/ Hibiscus; NOVA DEBUT!)
Strangeways Virginia Stingo (Red Wine BA English Strong Ale; NOVA DEBUT!)
The Answer Enta Da Stage (Bourbon BA Imperial Stout; NOVA DEBUT!)
The Answer Broken Bird (Imperial Stout w/ Toasted Coconut; NOVA DEBUT!)
The Answer Hard Hug (Imperial IPA; NOVA DEBUT!)
The Answer Extra Credit (Imperial IPA; NOVA DEBUT!)
The Veil Dull Fangs (American IPA w/ Grapefruit; NOVA DEBUT!)
The Veil IreallydontwanttoBu (Imperial IPA; NOVA DEBUT!)
The Veil We Dead Mon (Imperial IPA; NOVA DEBUT!)
The Veil White Farrari (Imperial IPA; NOVA DEBUT!)
Three Notch?d Apple Crumb Donut (Märzen w/ Apple Cider, Cinnamon & Vanilla)
Three Notch?d Zombie Killin (Imperial IPA w/ Rye)
Triple Crossing Coagulation (Imperial IPA; NOVA DEBUT!)
Triple Crossing Night Lands (Imperial Stout; NOVA DEBUT!)
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 24, 2016, 02:53:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 18, 2016, 11:29:32 am
Quote from: Yada on October 17, 2016, 04:54:49 pm
Yay MoCo!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/10/11/the-beer-list-at-owens-ordinary-in-north-bethesda-is-good-enough-to-be-the-envy-of-any-d-c-bar/?postshare=6211476727957337&tid=ss_tw

this is like a dream come true.  i have a tear in my eye right now.

Trips to Buy Buy Baby and Target just got a lot more fun... Made a quick detour to Owen's Ordinary yesterday and had a few pours. Think Church Key of the north with crappier service, but all in all, great spot. I look to return for a full afternoon of eating and drinking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 24, 2016, 02:55:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 24, 2016, 02:53:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 18, 2016, 11:29:32 am
Quote from: Yada on October 17, 2016, 04:54:49 pm
Yay MoCo!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/10/11/the-beer-list-at-owens-ordinary-in-north-bethesda-is-good-enough-to-be-the-envy-of-any-d-c-bar/?postshare=6211476727957337&tid=ss_tw

this is like a dream come true.  i have a tear in my eye right now.

Trips to Buy Buy Baby and Target just got a lot more fun... Made a quick detour to Owen's Ordinary yesterday and had a few pours. Think Church Key of the north with crappier service, but all in all, great spot. I look to return for a full afternoon of eating and drinking.

What was your BMI again?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 24, 2016, 02:56:37 pm
Quote from: Bad Hombre on October 24, 2016, 02:55:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 24, 2016, 02:53:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 18, 2016, 11:29:32 am
Quote from: Yada on October 17, 2016, 04:54:49 pm
Yay MoCo!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/10/11/the-beer-list-at-owens-ordinary-in-north-bethesda-is-good-enough-to-be-the-envy-of-any-d-c-bar/?postshare=6211476727957337&tid=ss_tw

this is like a dream come true.  i have a tear in my eye right now.

I can't recall, but it's posted somewhere on this board. I think it's 27ish.

Trips to Buy Buy Baby and Target just got a lot more fun... Made a quick detour to Owen's Ordinary yesterday and had a few pours. Think Church Key of the north with crappier service, but all in all, great spot. I look to return for a full afternoon of eating and drinking.

What was your BMI again?

I can't recall, but it's posted somewhere on this board. I think it's 27ish.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 24, 2016, 03:00:38 pm
ok yeah.. you're slowly killing yourself man.....halfway to obesity....


ok hold on a sec.. I need to get another bag of chips...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 24, 2016, 03:03:41 pm
MOON UNIT
← Miracle Old Pro →
Moon Unit - An Intergalactic Collaborative IPA from the space cadets at UNION & Burley Oak

This is great

Moon Unit
An Intergalactic Collaborative IPA from the space cadets at UNION & Burley Oak
Clusters of Galaxy hops form constellations of passionfruit and citrus suspended in the deep milkyway haze of this unfiltered intergalactic IPA.

ALCOHOL BY VOLUME: 6.7%
BITTERNESS (IBU): 80
COLOR: Pale
MALT: Pale, Flaked Oats, Flaked Wheat
HOPS: Idaho 7, Galaxy, 682, Bravo
YEAST: London Ale

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 24, 2016, 03:05:14 pm
does it taste like a frickin' grapefruit??? that is what i need to know... they need a new index for IPAs called the "grapefruit level" or some such..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on October 24, 2016, 03:46:11 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 24, 2016, 03:03:41 pm
MOON UNIT
← Miracle Old Pro →
Moon Unit - An Intergalactic Collaborative IPA from the space cadets at UNION & Burley Oak

This is great

Moon Unit
An Intergalactic Collaborative IPA from the space cadets at UNION & Burley Oak
Clusters of Galaxy hops form constellations of passionfruit and citrus suspended in the deep milkyway haze of this unfiltered intergalactic IPA.

ALCOHOL BY VOLUME: 6.7%
BITTERNESS (IBU): 80
COLOR: Pale
MALT: Pale, Flaked Oats, Flaked Wheat
HOPS: Idaho 7, Galaxy, 682, Bravo
YEAST: London Ale



I love when a beer like this gets announced. 

Then hate when I find out it's tap only a ways away from DC or MoCo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 02:31:05 pm
I cannot drink like I used to, for a while, which I am fine with.  I can consume one beer, now and again, and I am really starting to appreciate excellent beers for what they are . . . excellent in taste, and not so much only caring about getting fuckered up.

so with that in mind, I found the following from my local beer shoppee, and I purchased them

one four pack of founders harvest ale to share with a friend, who has never had it.
four, four packs of founders backwoods bastard, to store, for what I hope will be three to five years
one, bottle of wicked weed permeo, to also store for one to two years

thank you, for reading
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2016, 02:33:53 pm
why store beer? does it age well or something?


I'm drinking a PBR...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 02:38:51 pm
yes, certain beers store and age well, increasing the flavor of them ten fold.  I am told that backwoods, if you can make it 5 years, will destroy you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2016, 02:40:12 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 02:38:51 pm
yes, certain beers store and age well, increasing the flavor of them ten fold.  I am told that backwoods, if you can make it 5 years, will destroy you.


ooooh that sounds like fun...gotta get me some of that...i'm not very good at keeping beer around for years... maybe i shoudl buy some and dig a hole in the backyard and put it in?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 25, 2016, 02:42:55 pm
So the anniversary weekend will be spent on the eastern shore.  Looking forward to visiting RAR and maybe ESBC in St. Michaels while hitting the oyster fest.  Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2016, 02:45:09 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on October 25, 2016, 02:42:55 pm
So the anniversary weekend will be spent on the eastern shore.  Looking forward to visiting RAR and maybe ESBC in St. Michaels while hitting the oyster fest.  Any other suggestions?

don't forget GPKJ!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 25, 2016, 02:51:42 pm
Quote from: Bad Hombre on October 25, 2016, 02:45:09 pm
Quote from: Nuke LaLush on October 25, 2016, 02:42:55 pm
So the anniversary weekend will be spent on the eastern shore.  Looking forward to visiting RAR and maybe ESBC in St. Michaels while hitting the oyster fest.  Any other suggestions?

don't forget GPKJ!

Burley Oak in Berlin, MD
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 25, 2016, 03:00:18 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 02:31:05 pm
one, bottle of wicked weed permeo, to also store for one to two years

you will develop some (how much TBD) additional funk and/or sourness, however you will lose out on the lychees.  that's the problem with fruit sours: the fruit will drop out.  your call!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 03:13:47 pm
ok.  how long can I let it sit, do you think, to have it still taste good?  month, tops?  less?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 25, 2016, 03:32:53 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 03:13:47 pm
ok.  how long can I let it sit, do you think, to have it still taste good?  month, tops?  less?

Drink that now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 03:54:32 pm
Cool.  I will throw down a card game with my friends, and share it with everyone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2016, 04:10:13 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 02:38:51 pm
yes, certain beers store and age well, increasing the flavor of them ten fold.  I am told that backwoods, if you can make it 5 years, will destroy you.

I have Backwoods, Vulver, and CEntral WAters Bourbon Scotch Ale. Three of the highest rated (bourbon aged) scotch ales. I want to do a side by side but am waiting for a friend(s) to invite themselves to sample with us, as I don't think my wife and I can handle them alone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2016, 04:11:26 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 02:31:05 pm
I cannot drink like I used to, for a while, which I am fine with.  I can consume one beer, now and again, and I am really starting to appreciate excellent beers for what they are . . . excellent in taste, and not so much only caring about getting fuckered up.

so with that in mind, I found the following from my local beer shoppee, and I purchased them

one four pack of founders harvest ale to share with a friend, who has never had it.
four, four packs of founders backwoods bastard, to store, for what I hope will be three to five years
one, bottle of wicked weed permeo, to also store for one to two years

thank you, for reading

nice score, for the sticks
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2016, 06:24:10 pm
Quote from: Bad Hombre on October 25, 2016, 02:40:12 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 02:38:51 pm
yes, certain beers store and age well, increasing the flavor of them ten fold.  I am told that backwoods, if you can make it 5 years, will destroy you.


ooooh that sounds like fun...gotta get me some of that...i'm not very good at keeping beer around for years... maybe i shoudl buy some and dig a hole in the backyard and put it in?
at least go deep enough so the temp is constant :)

Not sure how your slumlord will be with the destruction of said hovel-yard?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2016, 06:51:50 pm
My slumlord couldn't care... we have a jungle in the back now...

I just bought Lagunitas but I thought I was getting the IPA but got the PILS instead.. I had my kids with me picking up the pizzas so I wasn't very focused.. the six pack came with one Lagunitas STOOPID.. maybe htat is more promising


more news as developments warrant it..

maybe this should have gone in the "I have no life now" thread...


Didd anybody hear how IPA's are healthier?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 08:00:48 pm
I am enjoying, this side direction, that the thread is now going on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2016, 08:49:06 pm
tis all bout the tangents
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2016, 10:23:30 pm
lagunitas stoopid .. i don't like it as much as the lagunitas ipa but its better than lagunitas pilsner

15 years ago I was all about pilseners but now they just don't float my boat
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 26, 2016, 12:27:02 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 25, 2016, 03:13:47 pm
ok.  how long can I let it sit, do you think, to have it still taste good?  month, tops?  less?

it is good now, and it will be good in 3 years.  however, it will be different.

drink now: more lychee and sharp sourness.
drink later: more funk, less fruit.

so it depends what you want.  personally, i like my fruited sours on the fresh side.  the brewer went through all that trouble of getting fruit in there, so why not enjoy the fruit flavors and aromas while they are center stage.  if i'm going to age a sour i'll pick an un-fruited one, but that's just me.  some people like the more integrated character of an aged fruited sour, other say the fruit take on a jam-like quality, blah blah blah.

thanks to the live bugs in the bottle (most notably brettanomyces), unpasteurized sours can be aged for years and years.  i have some belgian sours that have "best before" dates 10 years after the bottling date.  you read stories of uber-collectors drinking 30 year old sours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 26, 2016, 12:30:10 am
Quote from: Bad Hombre on October 25, 2016, 10:23:30 pm
15 years ago I was all about pilseners but now they just don't float my boat

pilsners from 15 years ago have little in common with today's pilsners from californian craft breweries (like lagunitas).  they're much hoppier now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on October 26, 2016, 03:04:35 am
I tried Wicked Weed's Oblivion and loved it.

Also their mango/guava gose. Pretty great as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 26, 2016, 08:48:38 am
Quote from: Unsanity on October 26, 2016, 03:04:35 am
I tried Wicked Weed's Oblivion and loved it.

Also their mango/guava gose. Pretty great as well.
Got a growler of Freak of Nature and loved it
also the 6er of the Napoleon complex was pretty darn good too

They also had Amorous ...but wasn't going to drop $20 for 500ml (at least not that night :) )

that gose I was eyeing up, but didn't get it it...I'm sure they are all gone now
got to get that WW when you see it, as it's gone in hours
but looks like the DMV will be getting regular tap and bottle deliveries now!

Did try an interesting Brown Ale last night from Center of the Universe called Wort Share
very good stuff, might go back and get a growler of that
I normally don't really like the brown ales, but this one changed my mind
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 10:35:23 am
Wait a sec.....Backwoods is out? Late to the party again, I guess. Guess that explains why I've never seen it on a shelf.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 26, 2016, 10:36:09 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 26, 2016, 12:30:10 am
Quote from: Bad Hombre on October 25, 2016, 10:23:30 pm
15 years ago I was all about pilseners but now they just don't float my boat

pilsners from 15 years ago have little in common with today's pilsners from californian craft breweries (like lagunitas).  they're much hoppier now.

If you still have a 15-year old pilsener, you should really just throw it out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 26, 2016, 10:37:55 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 10:35:23 am
Wait a sec.....Backwoods is out? Late to the party again, I guess. Guess that explains why I've never seen it on a shelf.

It's just hitting stores this week, along with Harvest Ale. You should be able to find some in VA. Don't know if it's hit anywhere in DC yet, but it will.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 10:41:40 am
Thanks for the tip. I presume these sell but not at a KBS-level frenzy?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 26, 2016, 10:43:31 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 10:41:40 am
Thanks for the tip. I presume these sell but not at a KBS-level frenzy?

not even close, in my experience.  it hangs around for a few weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 26, 2016, 10:48:01 am
We did three side by sides over the weekend:

1. "The Battle of Michigan"

Founders KBS 2015 vs Bells Black Note 2014
Food pairing: brie, dark chocolate, trail mix
Verdict: Bells 1, Founders 1
Comments: At various points, my wife said Bells was "roastier", "more boozy", and "more mellow" Not sure if all those things are possible at same time, but at any rate she preferred it. She thought the KBS tasted "chemically". I preferred the KBS.

2. "The Battle of the Troegs"

Troegs Troegenator vs. Troegs Barrel Aged Troegenator
Food Pairing: Shit, I'm drawing a blank, but it was something my wife made and it was damn good.
Verdict: Regular 2, Barrel Aged 0
Comments: Regular paired best with meal, whereas barrel aged was too boozy and one dimensional

3. "The Battle of Lagunitas"

Lagunitas Sucks vs Lagunitas Born Yesterday
Food paring: mushroom quesadillas
Verdict: Born Yesterday 2, Sucks 0
Comments: Sucks is good, but Born Yesterday is phenomenal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 26, 2016, 10:49:59 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 26, 2016, 10:43:31 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 10:41:40 am
Thanks for the tip. I presume these sell but not at a KBS-level frenzy?

not even close, in my experience.  it hangs around for a few weeks.

From my experience, I wouldn't count on it being around in a few weeks, but not KBS level for sure.

Teleworking today, I may have to go pick up a four pack...though good lord I still have some left from last year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 26, 2016, 12:34:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 26, 2016, 10:37:55 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 10:35:23 am
Wait a sec.....Backwoods is out? Late to the party again, I guess. Guess that explains why I've never seen it on a shelf.

It's just hitting stores this week, along with Harvest Ale. You should be able to find some in VA. Don't know if it's hit anywhere in DC yet, but it will.

I know a shop, in Winchester Virginia, that has tons of it. Harvest and Backwoods Bastard.

Yeah, I know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 01:22:08 pm
May resort to that. Struck out in McLean at lunch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 26, 2016, 01:24:16 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 01:22:08 pm
May resort to that. Struck out in McLean at lunch.

Mr. Crow, I'd advise going to Rodmans, McGruders, or Conn Ave Liquor to score any of your beer needs. Most of the beers you tend to mention are usually easily found at any of those shops and not deep into the city for us MoCo folk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 26, 2016, 01:34:46 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 01:22:08 pm
May resort to that. Struck out in McLean at lunch.

That's weird. Their website says they have it at TW McLean. Did you ask at the front desk?

Firsthand reports on Beer Advocate forum of it being at TW Ballston (today) and TW Springfield (yesterday).

Website also says TW Chanittly and Alexandria have it.

Also, Whole Foods Fair Lakes said they got it today, on their FB page.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2016, 03:03:45 pm
Yup. Weird. Didn't ask as I've never heard of it being kept back there.

Yada: I know McGruders doesn't have it yet. Will head to the other local shops tomorrow.

Thanks for the tips, guys.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 26, 2016, 03:58:33 pm
Just, the tip.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 26, 2016, 05:08:31 pm
maybe this will sway hutchess from drinking that spider pooh causing beer.

http://www.phillyvoice.com/beer-drinkers-disavow-yuengling-after-owner-shows-support-for-trump/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 26, 2016, 05:36:35 pm
^the owner is a dick
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 26, 2016, 07:07:40 pm
I'm sorry, I got greedy.  I mean, shit, it only comes out once a year.

I went back and got more backwoods bastard

plus

Avery   Botanicals and Barrels   Raspberry Sour

Wicked  Weed    Montmaretto

ok . . . now school me on storing, or drinking now / sharing with friends, of those two bombers?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 26, 2016, 07:12:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 26, 2016, 05:08:31 pm
maybe this will sway hutchess from drinking that spider pooh causing beer.

http://www.phillyvoice.com/beer-drinkers-disavow-yuengling-after-owner-shows-support-for-trump/


OH NO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NOT YUENGLING..PLEASE.... YOU TAKE AWAY MY CHICK FIL A NUGGETS AND WAFFLE FRIES AND NOW THIS! HOW IS A MAN WHO CALLS HIMSELF A MAN SUPPOSED TO GET BY?


actually the truth is I won't drink Yuengling much cause of this news.... thanks for posting Yada...I had no idea...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 26, 2016, 07:18:51 pm
I know I am a fag, and I should hate them, because they hate me . . . but mother fucker, those waffle fries and chicken nuggets and lemonade, from chick fil a, are so damn good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 26, 2016, 07:24:01 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 26, 2016, 07:07:40 pm
I'm sorry, I got greedy.  I mean, shit, it only comes out once a year.

I went back and got more backwoods bastard

plus

Avery   Botanicals and Barrels   Raspberry Sour

Wicked  Weed    Montmaretto

ok . . . now school me on storing, or drinking now / sharing with friends, of those two bombers?

That Avery Sour is damn tasty. I just had one that was a year old and it was perfect. Reminds me that I need to pick up another.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on October 27, 2016, 10:09:55 am
I'm hearing tons of positive stuff about Lagunitas Born Yesterday.  I'm really digging the NE style IPA thing going on.  I'm told Born Yesterday really scratches that itch.  Just picked some up and looking forward to it. 

If you're not a big Arrogant Bastard or Double Bastard fan is Backwoods Bastard worth looking into?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 27, 2016, 10:10:36 am
Can someone explain, in layman's terms please, what a Grisette style is like?  Comparisons, recommendations, etc
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2016, 10:26:25 am
Quote from: medeski7 on October 27, 2016, 10:09:55 am
I'm hearing tons of positive stuff about Lagunitas Born Yesterday.  I'm really digging the NE style IPA thing going on.  I'm told Born Yesterday really scratches that itch.  Just picked some up and looking forward to it. 

If you're not a big Arrogant Bastard or Double Bastard fan is Backwoods Bastard worth looking into?

Stone makes Arrogant Bastard, Double Bastard, and Lucky Bastard.

Founders makes Backwoods Bastard and Dirty Bastard.


The only similarities are their names.

The Stone Bastards are more hoppy. I'm a big fan of Double, but have never like Arrogant and don't even remember Lucky.

The Founders Bastards are more malty, as they are Scotch Ales. Backwoods is bourbon aged with a high ABV, so that's why everyone creams their pants for it.

So to answer your question..if you don't care for the Stone beers, it shouldn't have any bearing on whether you look into Backwoods. The question is, do you like the more maltier styles of beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2016, 10:33:16 am
Quote from: Bagley on October 27, 2016, 10:10:36 am
Can someone explain, in layman's terms please, what a Grisette style is like?  Comparisons, recommendations, etc

Ok, I'm copying this from the internet, but see below. When I think of grisette, I think something in the range of a saison, but a bit more boring. Pleasant, but boring (maybe subtle is a nicer word to use) compared to a hoppy IPA. To me, it's analogous to a white table wine. Goes good with food but not all that exciting. Manor Hill (MD) and Sly Fox (PA) make good grisettes.


Grisette actually originated in French Wallonia specifically in the Hainut province of southern Belgium. It was mostly regarded as a working class beer of the "miner's or factory workers" in the region much like saison was considered a "farmers" beer in the north. Grisette's were typically "low-alcohol, light bodied, saison-like golden ales of no great distinction" according to Phil Markowski in his Farmhouse Ales book.


COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
The Grisette is an old working class Belgian Farmhouse style that is typically brewed with wheat. This take on the classic style is a very light and sessionable farmhouse ale with subtle citrus flavor. A fluffy white head crowns this straw colored brew. Aromas of tropical fruit and grass come through on the nose. The flavor profile is dominated by citrus and slight bitter hops with a dry finish.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 27, 2016, 10:59:59 am
Quote from: Bagley on October 27, 2016, 10:10:36 am
Can someone explain, in layman's terms please, what a Grisette style is like?  Comparisons, recommendations, etc

think of grisette as a session saison. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 27, 2016, 11:34:00 am
Thanks for the feedback folks.  Just as long as there's no clove presence,  I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 27, 2016, 04:18:12 pm
http://www.newnownext.com/brian-sims-yuengling-beer/10/2016/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 28, 2016, 08:35:50 am
Ocelot Halloween Party Saturday night.

Join us for our Halloween party!
 This year we will have Live Music from Jackie and The Treehorns!
 These are guys are awesome and promised to play some cool stuff for us as well as their wonderful tunes. Check out their newest album too? https://jackieandthetreehorns.bandcamp.com/album/ru4real

 BBQ from RESQ BBQ Catering will be here all night serving up incredible food.

 Costume contest! Individual and couples!

 And best of all, we will be dressing up too! The Brewery will pretend to be Richmond for the night and pour beers not only from us but also from our dear friends down south.

 TAPLIST:

 OCELOT
 Feel the Break (Hoppy Wheat)
 Piece of Mind (IPA)
 Planets Align (IPA)
 Watch Me Disappear (IPA)
 Fuquette (Double IPA)
 Sunnyside Dweller (Pilsner)
 Candle of Thought (Saison)
 Capsized (Imperial Milk Stout)
 Barrel Aged Gravity Always Wins (Wee Heavy)
 Barrel Aged My Only Friend (Imperial Stout)
 Barrel Aged My Sweet Virginia (Barley Wine)

 Nitro:
 Elizabeth My Dear (Best Bitter)
 Hourglass Body (Oatmeal Stout)

 Cask:
 Coffee and Vanilla Capsized

 GUEST TAPS!!
The Veil Brewing Co. - Lord Shredder (IPA)
The Veil Brewing Co. - We Ded Mon (Triple IPA)
The Answer Brewpub - Piece of the Action (IPA)
The Answer Brewpub - Extra Credit (Double IPA)
STRANGEWAYS BREWING - Rot-in-Hell (Pumpkin Sour)
Triple Crossing Brewing - Alternating Current (IPA)
Ardent Craft Ales - NE IPA (IPA)
Hardywood Park Craft Brewery - 2015 Bourbon Barrel GBS
No cover, No tickets, No samples, No Flights, No growlers, No bottle sales, No Exceptions!
 This is a night to celebrate, have fun, hang out and enjoy some great brews.

 See you soon!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 28, 2016, 10:33:45 am
hold on sec...is this free??

No cover, No tickets, No samples, No Flights, No growlers, No bottle sales, No Exceptions!
 This is a night to celebrate, have fun, hang out and enjoy some great brews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 28, 2016, 10:34:49 am
I had that Veil - Lord Shredder last night. (Veil stuff is finally hitting some taps at restaurants in town.) That is a fantastic beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on October 28, 2016, 10:39:02 am
Well that sounds amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 28, 2016, 10:51:16 am
Quote from: Da'Hatch 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on October 28, 2016, 10:33:45 am
hold on sec...is this free??

No cover, No tickets, No samples, No Flights, No growlers, No bottle sales, No Exceptions!
 This is a night to celebrate, have fun, hang out and enjoy some great brews.


free to get in, but you need to buy your pints (and they'll only be selling full pours).

and agreed - sounds damn amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 28, 2016, 11:33:36 am
Would love to go to  Ocelot and do that. Would make for a hellish cab ride back home tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 28, 2016, 11:39:00 am
in case you're looking for something in the city, or something on sunday:

DC Homebrewers 5th Annual BBQ Fundraiser (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dc-homebrewers-5th-annual-bbq-fundraiser-tickets-28399368275)

Sunday, October 30, 1:00 PM ? 4:00 PM

3 Stars Brewing Company, 6400 Chillum Place Northwest. Washington, DC 20012

The DC Homebrewers barbecue fundraiser is back for its 5th year! 3 Stars is hosting us again. Come celebrate the art and community of homebrewing with homebrewers, beer lovers, family and friends!
 
The barbecue ticket includes a plate of Smoke & Barrel meat, 2 sides, and a potato bun as well as a pint of 3 Stars beer. A vegan option will be available. Included with your ticket is the opportunity to sample a variety of homebrewed beers as well.

Our raffle and silent auction that day will help fund activities of the DC Homebrewers, with a chance for you to win some great raffle and silent auction prizes from local bars/breweries, homebrew shops and the Washington Nationals.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dc-homebrewers-5th-annual-bbq-fundraiser-tickets-28399368275

attendees will be picking a crowd favorite from all the homebrew on offer.  taste 'em all!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 28, 2016, 11:58:03 am
^curious...for $20 you get a 3stars beer and BBQ
but does that also include unlimited Homebrew tasting??

and will their be some SweetCell Brew on tap?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 12:07:58 pm
I have officially, quit drinking beer forever. So I will be giving away everything that I own.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 28, 2016, 12:11:09 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 12:07:58 pm
I have officially, quit drinking beer forever. So I will be giving away everything that I own.

If it makes you better physically/mentally/spiritually, good for you. I'll miss your posts in this thread.  :'(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 28, 2016, 12:12:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 28, 2016, 12:11:09 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 12:07:58 pm
I have officially, quit drinking beer forever. So I will be giving away everything that I own.

If it makes you better physically/mentally/spiritually, good for you. I'll miss your posts in this thread.  :'(
yes, your health is far more important than beer

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 28, 2016, 12:14:47 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 12:07:58 pm
I have officially, quit drinking beer forever. So I will be giving away everything that I own.
If it makes you better physically/mentally/spiritually, I will take whatever you want to give away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 28, 2016, 12:15:52 pm
Quote from: Da'Hatch 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on October 28, 2016, 11:58:03 am
^curious...for $20 you get a 3stars beer and BBQ
but does that also include unlimited Homebrew tasting??

and will their be some SweetCell Brew on tap?

yes, unlimited homebrew tasting.  it's small pours tho, ~2 oz.

unfortunately i nor my beer will be in attendance.  but i can assure you that some other amazing homebrewers will be there!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 28, 2016, 12:19:45 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 12:07:58 pm
I have officially, quit drinking beer forever. So I will be giving away everything that I own.

I've given up liquor, for no apparent reason.  Perhaps we should trade our respective stashes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 28, 2016, 12:43:16 pm
Quote from: I don't know why you calll me cousin oliver on October 28, 2016, 12:19:45 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 12:07:58 pm
I have officially, quit drinking beer forever. So I will be giving away everything that I own.

I've given up liquor, for no apparent reason.  Perhaps we should trade our respective stashes.
If it makes you better physically/mentally/spiritually, I will take whatever you want to give away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 03:23:06 pm
sorry, gentlemen . . . but I will be giving what I have, away as Christmas gifts to friends.

the 120 minutes that I have been storing, will make me cry.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 28, 2016, 03:50:22 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 03:23:06 pm
sorry, gentlemen . . . but I will be giving what I have, away as Christmas gifts to friends.

the 120 minutes that I have been storing, will make me cry.
so are you telling me we are not friends

weep, weep

(but honestly a good idea)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 28, 2016, 04:56:38 pm
more info on the ocelot halloween thing:

're getting excited for tomorrow! How about you?
Quick notes:
Growler fills and bottles will be available until 4pm, as well as our full tap list. Basic Burger will be here early to serve food.

Party starts 5pm, the tap list pictured will be available in Half and Full pours ONLY. Please note that not all guest taps will be available at 5pm, they will be rotated in when a line becomes available
RESQ BBQ Catering will have BBQ available from 5pm
Jackie and The Treehorns will start music between 7-8
See you tomorrow
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 28, 2016, 05:31:20 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 12:07:58 pm
I have officially, quit drinking beer forever. So I will be giving away everything that I own.

huh? You were just buying beer and storing it in the yard??? what happened?


no need to make hasty decision you might regret... give it a month...


you do realize you're looking at a sober thanksgiving, right??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 28, 2016, 06:22:02 pm
Thnaksgiving is for wine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 06:58:47 pm
i have to give up all alcohol, period.  not because i want to, or because i have a problem . . . but because i have to.  my doctor is putting his foot down.  i bought all that beer because i was going to store it for years, in thought that i could drink 1 or 2 here and there, in the future.

and now, i will use the bitterness of this, forever, to fucking make a point in sub,reality with my fictional novel writings.  one way to motivate someone to finally get the fucking job done and to get their fucking act together, is to fucking take away all their vices and watch them use it to their fucking advantage.

the, fucking, end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 28, 2016, 08:50:14 pm
that sounded, very, very angry . . . and I'm sorry.  it just really hit me hard, not that I cannot drink alcohol for the rest of my life, or even smoke pot if I ever wanted to, but rather that now, I have something or someone controlling me; making my decisions for me, without a care or a whim if I have an opinion about said control.

I know, it is the best for me; I just needed to vent that out there into the ethos . . . and indeed, it felt good to do it.

the end, again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 28, 2016, 09:13:42 pm
well i wish you all the best healthwise..

oh well...more money for everything else.. Its amazing how much money I would save if I did not drink.. I'd probably own a Ferrari or something...

anyone else notice how they keep up jacking up beer prices???

I blame InBev... those foreign fucks..

i have a love hate relationship with alcohol.. i like to drink but its very fattening and costs a lot of money....

i've made some stabs at giving it up alltogether but non has stuck more than a few months.... i doubt i could ever give up wine with meat for example.. or beer with wings...or even beer with rock shows....they just go together for me... and my life ain't that great so beer ain't exactly a huge problem....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wml7 on October 29, 2016, 11:19:16 am
At Hardywood waiting for release of Trickery and Cassowary.  Come say if anyone else is here, I'm the person waiting in the long ass line.
 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 29, 2016, 09:25:06 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on October 28, 2016, 10:34:49 am
I had that Veil - Lord Shredder last night. (Veil stuff is finally hitting some taps at restaurants in town.) That is a fantastic beer.

Good Lord, you were so right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 30, 2016, 05:00:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 29, 2016, 09:25:06 pm
Quote from: Julian, the BELOVED on October 28, 2016, 10:34:49 am
I had that Veil - Lord Shredder last night. (Veil stuff is finally hitting some taps at restaurants in town.) That is a fantastic beer.

Good Lord, you were so right.
I know, right?! Next time I see on their FB they are canning that I'll actually go up and buy a 4-pack or two.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 01, 2016, 08:35:32 am
http://www.citypages.com/restaurants/former-surly-brewmaster-todd-haug-leaving-minnesota-joining-three-floyds/399332831
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 08:39:09 am
We had a large bomber of Victory Wild Devil last night for Halloween. It was very good though perhaps not great. Basically Hop Devil with brett added. It was also 2.5 years old. I purchased it on clearance at Tenuta's in Kenosha this summer for $3.99 for 26 oz bottle. I wish I had bought a case of it at that price. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 08:41:30 am
Quote from: Yada on November 01, 2016, 08:35:32 am
http://www.citypages.com/restaurants/former-surly-brewmaster-todd-haug-leaving-minnesota-joining-three-floyds/399332831

He looks like he will fit in well at Three Floyds.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 01, 2016, 09:25:07 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 08:39:09 am
We had a large bomber of Victory Wild Devil last night for Halloween. It was very good though perhaps not great. Basically Hop Devil with brett added. It was also 2.5 years old. I purchased it on clearance at Tenuta's in Kenosha this summer for $3.99 for 26 oz bottle. I wish I had bought a case of it at that price. Oh well.

Doesn't seem very thrifty to invest in a two year old beer that's already only good vs. great. Also, beer bible has pretty low ratings!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 09:52:46 am
Quote from: Yada on November 01, 2016, 09:25:07 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 08:39:09 am
We had a large bomber of Victory Wild Devil last night for Halloween. It was very good though perhaps not great. Basically Hop Devil with brett added. It was also 2.5 years old. I purchased it on clearance at Tenuta's in Kenosha this summer for $3.99 for 26 oz bottle. I wish I had bought a case of it at that price. Oh well.

Doesn't seem very thrifty to invest in a two year old beer that's already only good vs. great. Also, beer bible has pretty low ratings!

Hindsight is 20/20. I bought only one because:

a. I was buying a shitload of New Glarus beer to bring home so space limitations
b. Though it's referred to as a "wild ale", it has an IPA base no my naiive guess was that it would have lost something. How much I would not have been able to say since I didn't have it fresh
c. I wasn't aware of the ratings of the beer, so was just going on brewery reputation alone. Hence, worth a try but wasn't going to risk getting a bunch. It does have a 71st percentile on ratebeer for wild ales, which is a good score.

That said, I'll take a "very good" $4 bomber (or $2 single) six nights a week, and save the "excellent" $20+ bomber for the seventh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 01, 2016, 10:03:12 am
Your beer budget is $50 / week?  I'm shocked!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 10:18:13 am
Quote from: I don't know why you calll me cousin oliver on November 01, 2016, 10:03:12 am
Your beer budget is $50 / week?  I'm shocked!

Beyond not spending more than we take in, we don't do budgets at our house. I honestly have no idea how much I spend on beer. Though it's probably more than I spend on clothing, movies, music, and concerts combined.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on November 01, 2016, 12:41:18 pm
Manor Hill and Aslin have announced a collab to be released the day before Thanksgiving.  Looks really interesting. 

https://www.facebook.com/manorhillbrew/photos/a.343821129115639.1073741829.289878247843261/722178074613274/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 12:56:45 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on November 01, 2016, 12:41:18 pm
Manor Hill and Aslin have announced a collab to be released the day before Thanksgiving.  Looks really interesting. 

https://www.facebook.com/manorhillbrew/photos/a.343821129115639.1073741829.289878247843261/722178074613274/?type=3&theater


I wonder how the adding grape juice is going to play out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 01, 2016, 02:20:30 pm
not missing the yuengling yet...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 01, 2016, 02:40:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 12:56:45 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on November 01, 2016, 12:41:18 pm
Manor Hill and Aslin have announced a collab to be released the day before Thanksgiving.  Looks really interesting. 

https://www.facebook.com/manorhillbrew/photos/a.343821129115639.1073741829.289878247843261/722178074613274/?type=3&theater


I wonder how the adding grape juice is going to play out.

if it tastes anything like this did, i'm sure all will be delicious in the world.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30654/252234/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 01, 2016, 04:45:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 01, 2016, 02:40:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 12:56:45 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on November 01, 2016, 12:41:18 pm
Manor Hill and Aslin have announced a collab to be released the day before Thanksgiving.  Looks really interesting. 

https://www.facebook.com/manorhillbrew/photos/a.343821129115639.1073741829.289878247843261/722178074613274/?type=3&theater


I wonder how the adding grape juice is going to play out.

if it tastes anything like this did, i'm sure all will be delicious in the world.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30654/252234/

but we'll need to trek up to columbia to buy any?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 01, 2016, 04:51:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 01, 2016, 04:45:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 01, 2016, 02:40:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 12:56:45 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on November 01, 2016, 12:41:18 pm
Manor Hill and Aslin have announced a collab to be released the day before Thanksgiving.  Looks really interesting. 

https://www.facebook.com/manorhillbrew/photos/a.343821129115639.1073741829.289878247843261/722178074613274/?type=3&theater


I wonder how the adding grape juice is going to play out.

if it tastes anything like this did, i'm sure all will be delicious in the world.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30654/252234/

but we'll need to trek up to columbia to buy any?

I'd say most likely yes, can't see any of that going out to distro. You'll also probably need to stand in line with a bunch of neckbeards who will arrive a few hours early.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 01, 2016, 05:23:46 pm
My top pick from last weekend's visit to Owen's Ordinary:

Oliver / expect no mercy:
woodford reserve barrel-aged (#44)
scotch ale/wee heavy/ 8.4% / md / 54º / Snifter / 10 Oz
brewed with smoked & peated malt; aged 6 months in
woodford reserve barrels; collaboraon with DuClaw(MD)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 01, 2016, 09:23:11 pm
I finally found a pumpkin beer I loved:

Pumpkin Smash | Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub

though technically it's a wild ale

On draft at P Street Whole Foods

Pro tip: Order it as part of the $5 flight, not the $16/10 oz full pour.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 02, 2016, 10:08:31 am
Quote from: Bagley on November 01, 2016, 05:23:46 pm
My top pick from last weekend's visit to Owen's Ordinary:

Oliver / expect no mercy:
woodford reserve barrel-aged (#44)
scotch ale/wee heavy/ 8.4% / md / 54º / Snifter / 10 Oz
brewed with smoked & peated malt; aged 6 months in
woodford reserve barrels; collaboraon with DuClaw(MD)

I've visited Owen's Ordinary twice now, couldn't be more disappointed. Beer list is definitely good to great for MoCo, but as expected like any "high end" restaurants in MoCo, the service is just atrocious.

First visit I popped by myself in as I was doing daddy duties at Target and Buy Buy Baby and just had a few pours. They requested I order the beer by number vs. the name and two of my sour style beers showed up with little to no carb (before Space tries to argue with me here, yes, i know some sours have little to no carb but these were completely flat). The the third beer was an entire pour of foam that he promised me was four ounces once it settled.

Second visit was with my partner last weekend and we ended up getting half of our bill comped it was so bad.  Nearly 15 minutes to get drinks, messed up beer orders, steak that still had a heart beat (sent back and recooked still coming out bloody), etc. It's backed by too much money to fail, but what a disaster. I'm sure the kinks will work out at some point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 02, 2016, 10:56:34 am
Interesting!..... Was that Saturday night?  I overheard someone a couple tables away  (2 dudes) complaining to the manager about their steak coming out too rare TWICE.  My complaint was that our server was not well informed on the draft  beer menu selections.  Not only what the particular beer was like but whether it was even available,  many of which were not. I actually filled out the comments card after the meal to reflect my concern.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 02, 2016, 10:58:14 am
Caboose Brewery (love their Hobo Stout...) is coming to mosaic soon
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/news2/caboose-approved-to-convert-an-old-warehouse-into-a-brewery-in-the-mosaic-district/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 02, 2016, 11:01:43 am
Quote from: Bagley on November 02, 2016, 10:56:34 am
Interesting!..... Was that Saturday night?  I overheard someone a couple tables away  (2 dudes) complaining to the manager about their steak coming out too rare TWICE.  My complaint was that our server was not well informed on the draft  beer menu selections.  Not only what the particular beer was like but whether it was even available,  many of which were not. I actually filled out the comments card after the meal to reflect my concern.

No, this was last Friday... but our complaints were basically the same as above. I was really excited for this place, so I'm a bit bummed but may be best to just steer clear on really busy evenings like Friday/Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 02, 2016, 12:00:17 pm
Nothing beats a home cooked meal with retail store beer, or homebrew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 02, 2016, 12:21:00 pm
Not crazy about pumpkin beer but had a Big Lizz at rar in Cambridge.  Butternut squash.  Yum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 02, 2016, 12:30:54 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 02, 2016, 12:00:17 pm
Nothing beats a home cooked meal with retail store beer, or homebrew.

lol
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 02, 2016, 03:23:48 pm
 Anthony Bourdain blasts the craft beer scene (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/anthony-bourdain-craft-beer-is-turning-people-into-zombies/)

I was in San Francisco, and I was desperate for beer, and I walked into this place...and I noticed there was a wide selection of beers I'd never heard of," said Bourdain,

"I don't need to know what's out of the f---ing hill, or who put the grapevines in, or that they were transplanted. I don't need this. I drank it already, dude"

"Which is fine...But I looked around: the entire place was filled with people sitting there with five small glasses in front of them, filled with different beers, taking notes.

"This is not a bar. This is f---ing Invasion of the Body Snatchers. This is wrong. This is not what a bar is about."

He added that the entire point of a bar is to "get a little bit buzzed" and not "sit there f---ing analyzing beer."


hmmm space...that seems to negate your 'I only drink 8oz of beer" in a sitting argument
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 02, 2016, 04:00:07 pm
Quote from: Da'Hatch 🛠⛏|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🗡⚔ on November 02, 2016, 03:23:48 pm
Anthony Bourdain blasts the craft beer scene (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/anthony-bourdain-craft-beer-is-turning-people-into-zombies/)

I was in San Francisco, and I was desperate for beer, and I walked into this place...and I noticed there was a wide selection of beers I'd never heard of," said Bourdain,

"I don't need to know what's out of the f---ing hill, or who put the grapevines in, or that they were transplanted. I don't need this. I drank it already, dude"

"Which is fine...But I looked around: the entire place was filled with people sitting there with five small glasses in front of them, filled with different beers, taking notes.

"This is not a bar. This is f---ing Invasion of the Body Snatchers. This is wrong. This is not what a bar is about."

He added that the entire point of a bar is to "get a little bit buzzed" and not "sit there f---ing analyzing beer."


hmmm space...that seems to negate your 'I only drink 8oz of beer" in a sitting argument

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I've never met this Bourdain guy, let alone had a drink with him. Though I see to remember that Sweetcell met him.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 02, 2016, 05:46:02 pm
Having a Pagan Science, while listening to the album.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 07, 2016, 11:40:15 am
Aslin moves crowler pick ups to Thursday only for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 07, 2016, 11:59:52 am
Quote from: Yada on November 07, 2016, 11:40:15 am
Aslin moves crowler pick ups to Thursday only for the foreseeable future.

So basically if you don't skip out of work prior to 3pm on a Thursday, you're SOL. Nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 07, 2016, 12:04:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 07, 2016, 11:59:52 am
Quote from: Yada on November 07, 2016, 11:40:15 am
Aslin moves crowler pick ups to Thursday only for the foreseeable future.

So basically if you don't skip out of work prior to 3pm on a Thursday, you're SOL. Nice.

This doesn't really impact me as I never went on Saturdays either, but yea, pretty much screwed... and them being pretty vague about timelines for the brew house is lame. That could take months if not years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 07, 2016, 12:19:06 pm
Well not to get all Spacey, but who cares? There are plenty of other great, cheaper options in the world. We pretty much *only* drank hoppy beers the last three days. Ranked in order of preference:

1. Lagunitas Born Yesterday (best new mass produced beer since ?)
2. Three Floyds Zombie Dust (last of a three month old case, but still damn good).
3. Ocelot Watch Me Disappear (growlers at Whole Foods notably cheaper than at brewery, this *might* be their best IPA)
4. Founders Harvest Ale (overpriced compared to #1 and #2 but still glad I picked up a four pack)
5. Lagunitas Sucks (still a fan, but its not quite as good as it used to me and it can't beat those above)

Tonight, Sierra Nevada Celebration.

Interesting that my two favorites are allegedly pale ales, and not IPA's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 07, 2016, 01:53:11 pm
I like that Ocelot beer quite a bit. Planets Align is very good as well.

I saw Brown Sugga on the shelves last week. Love the stuff but I have a few bottles and crowlers to plow through before I pick up any of that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 07, 2016, 01:59:25 pm
I drank another six pack of Lagunitas IPA this weekend.. its probably my go to beer right now.....


Yuengling update: still not missing it...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 07, 2016, 02:02:31 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 07, 2016, 01:53:11 pm
I like that Ocelot beer quite a bit. Planets Align is very good as well.

I saw Brown Sugga on the shelves last week. Love the stuff but I have a few bottles and crowlers to plow through before I pick up any of that.

Ah, the Brown Shugga. Another great beer. Just can't get a six pack, have way too much beer already. Sigh. Maybe I'll get a single 12 oz bottle somewhere.

I like the Planets Align too, just not as big a fan of the Nelson Sauvin hop as I am of Citra.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 08, 2016, 10:18:32 am
Quote from: Yada on November 01, 2016, 08:35:32 am
http://www.citypages.com/restaurants/former-surly-brewmaster-todd-haug-leaving-minnesota-joining-three-floyds/399332831

Surly partnering with Leinenkugel.

https://twitter.com/surlybrewing/status/795739064054009860

Can't wait to drink a Surly Summer Shandy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 08, 2016, 10:39:38 am
RAR issuing tickets for 3 new releases

11/26 Can Release
11AM. Dropping "Reaper", "Goodnight Apollo", and "Maryland Roast". THIS IS A TICKETED EVENT WHICH WILL SECURE YOU AN ALLOTMENT OF (3) FOUR PACKS OF BEER PER BRAND, 1 TICKET PER PERSON @ $10 WHICH WILL BE APPLIED TO YOUR CAN PURCHASE UPON PICK-UP. PLEASE ARRIVE @ 11AM DAY OF EVENT FOR PICK-UP. DRAFT WILL BE AVAILABLE WITH OR WITHOUT A TICKET THOUGH GROWLER FILLS WILL BE LIMITED TO ONE 64OZ GROWLER OR (2) 32OZ CROWLER'S PER PERSON.

200 TICKETS AVAILABLE

REAPER @ $13.99/4-PK PLUS TAX
GOODNIGHT APOLLO @ $14.99/4-PK PLUS TAX
MARYLAND ROAST @ $13.99/4-PK PLUS TAX

Please bring a paper ticket or mobile ticket with a barcode so we can validate you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 08, 2016, 11:59:39 am
Tempting. Any ideas what Maryland Roast is?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 08, 2016, 12:52:38 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 08, 2016, 11:59:39 am
Tempting. Any ideas what Maryland Roast is?

Reaper is a DIPA, Apollo is a Russian Imperial Stout and Md Roast is an Imperial Cream Ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2016, 06:10:13 pm
aslin on tap at falls church Domion Wine and Beer

Aslin Brewing Company / Dominion Wine and Beer  All Eyez On Me - Double IPA

A few weeks ago we got together with our friends over at Aslin Beer Company in Herndon, VA. Local guys making beer that is receiving national recognition? Why wouldn't we want to brew a beer with them? So that's what we did. Aslin has become popular for making juicy, delicious IPAs that we love drinking. After putting our heads together we decided on brewing a Double IPA that we used a combination of Waimea, Vic Secret and Amarillo hops in. The result was fantastic and now we want to share it with you! We received a very limited amount of this beer and want to distribute equally to as many of you as possible. Below are a few details on how we plan to release this beer.

 Date: Friday, November 9, 2016
 Time: 5PM
 Limits: (1) 32 oz Crowler Per Person
 100 Crowlers Guaranteed
 Price: $12.99 / 32 oz Crowler
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2016, 08:13:21 pm
Quote from: sadHatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|⚔ on November 10, 2016, 06:10:13 pm
aslin on tap at falls church Domion Wine and Beer

Aslin Brewing Company / Dominion Wine and Beer  All Eyez On Me - Double IPA

A few weeks ago we got together with our friends over at Aslin Beer Company in Herndon, VA. Local guys making beer that is receiving national recognition? Why wouldn't we want to brew a beer with them? So that's what we did. Aslin has become popular for making juicy, delicious IPAs that we love drinking. After putting our heads together we decided on brewing a Double IPA that we used a combination of Waimea, Vic Secret and Amarillo hops in. The result was fantastic and now we want to share it with you! We received a very limited amount of this beer and want to distribute equally to as many of you as possible. Below are a few details on how we plan to release this beer.

 Date: Friday, November 9, 2016
 Time: 5PM
 Limits: (1) 32 oz Crowler Per Person
 100 Crowlers Guaranteed
 Price: $12.99 / 32 oz Crowler

That would be November 11. I can only imagine what a shitshow the parking lot will be.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2016, 12:11:53 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 10, 2016, 08:13:21 pm
That would be November 11. I can only imagine what a shitshow the parking lot will be.
it is a tiny one
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on November 11, 2016, 10:49:55 am
I went to play poker with some heavy hitters, last night.  It was like playing with those mother,fuckers on television.  wow. 

so, I brought some dfh 120 minute, founders backwoods bastard and the wicked weed permeo . . . to share with my new friends.  they were impressed and delighted.  I did taste the permeo, just so I could say I did.  very, nice.

still, miss beer, but i'll live.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 23, 2016, 12:52:12 am
I had (and enjoyed most of ) 35 of these
50 readers choice beers (https://beerandbrewing.com/4hu9l5fApqygCm6o6u4wGk/article/craft-beer-and-brewing-magazine-best-in-beer-2016-readers-choice-and)
odd that yuengling got 21st in this list
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 23, 2016, 09:19:57 am
That list looks like somebody went to a few Whole Foods across the country and starting making a random list of beers in the cooler.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on November 23, 2016, 10:05:25 am
Anyone seeking out BCBS this week?  I'll be in Loudoun County for the holiday.  If anyone has recs for a spot to pick some up, preferably without a single bottle limit, I'd love to know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 23, 2016, 10:14:22 am
Quote from: medeski7 on November 23, 2016, 10:05:25 am
Anyone seeking out BCBS this week?  I'll be in Loudoun County for the holiday.  If anyone has recs for a spot to pick some up, preferably without a single bottle limit, I'd love to know.

I *might* go stand in line 15 minutes before opening time at my nearby Total Wine to try to get a bottle of Coffee. I fully expect I will fail, based on the lines I encountered last year. The Regular and Barleywine shouldn't require any line waiting, I might pick up a bottle each of those, though I still have some from year's past.

Goose Island is said to allocate BCBS based on what stores sell the most of their regular products. So wherever Hutch buys the most Goose IPA is the place who will get the most BCBS. So good to check grocery stores in addition to the usual more beer-centered stores. (Though doubt grocery stores would have anything more than Regular.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 24, 2016, 08:45:43 am
I need a couple bottles of regular but will not wait in line for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 24, 2016, 01:00:42 pm
So, what's everyone drinking today?

Keeping me company on this turkey day is a case of week-old Head Hunter (I'm currently less than 10 miles away from Ohio), and a mix pack of Bell's driven frim from MI.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 24, 2016, 01:16:46 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 24, 2016, 01:00:42 pm
So, what's everyone drinking today?

Keeping me company on this turkey day is a case of week-old Head Hunter (I'm currently less than 10 miles away from Ohio), and a mix pack of Bell's driven frim from MI.

I got a starr hill sampler 12 pack.. four different types of beer.. is this total crap?? I had a few last night of the IPA variety and it did not seem so hot..

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 24, 2016, 01:48:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 24, 2016, 01:00:42 pm
So, what's everyone drinking today?

Keeping me company on this turkey day is a case of week-old Head Hunter (I'm currently less than 10 miles away from Ohio), and a mix pack of Bell's driven frim from MI.

A bottle of Bluejacket Wallflower and maybe some Westbrook Gose with homemade Pad Thai and spring rolls. And later a 2013 BCBS Coffee with homemade pecan pie and (store bought) vanilla ice cream.

Oh and some Founders Breakfast Stout with brie to get things started.

Happy Thanksgiving to y'all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2016, 01:55:23 pm
got a growler Alpine Beer Company - Pure Hoppiness and happily enjoying while removing the bird from the brine and getting it preped for the oven (gotta get a new glass )

Thanksgiving is one of those holidays that it's perfectly acceptable for the cook to start drinking before noon



I do have some special bottles/cans/bomers for my guests to pick from
Rodenbach Vintage 2013
Lindemans Gueuze Cuvée René
Cigar City - White oak aged Jai Alai IPA (really good and very different than the original..more crushable)
DogfishHead - beer for breakfast stout
Clownshoes - SpaceCakes IPA

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 24, 2016, 04:08:44 pm
not diggin the starr hill.. moving on to wine..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 25, 2016, 11:44:36 am
Sadly, I still have a little bit of Abner left in the growler. I hate it when I don't kill the growler after opening it. Will finish that today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 25, 2016, 12:58:42 pm
Had Framboise Lambic with turkey last night. Nice pairing!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on November 25, 2016, 07:56:41 pm
At the beach, in nc.  They have every wicked weed beer imaginable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on November 26, 2016, 04:40:35 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on November 25, 2016, 07:56:41 pm
At the beach, in nc.  They have every wicked weed beer imaginable.

oh lordy! There some that make my taste buds tingle that i will never get to try most likely.

Anyone else grab some Bourbon County Stout today?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 26, 2016, 09:35:28 am
Quote from: Unsanity on November 26, 2016, 04:40:35 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on November 25, 2016, 07:56:41 pm
At the beach, in nc.  They have every wicked weed beer imaginable.

oh lordy! There some that make my taste buds tingle that i will never get to try most likely.

Anyone else grab some Bourbon County Stout today?

I grabbed two bottle of barleywine, one of regular, and failed to get any coffee.

Barleywine, Regular, and Regal (as well as Abraxas) on draft at P Street. That would make one hell of a $5 flight. if they'd sell you a flight of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on November 26, 2016, 11:20:07 am
Anyone here do any trading? I'm trying to get my hands on some Tired Hands, Treehouse or Veil hops. I have some of The Grapeness to trade.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 27, 2016, 12:00:59 am
Quote from: medeski7 on November 26, 2016, 11:20:07 am
Anyone here do any trading? I'm trying to get my hands on some Tired Hands, Treehouse or Veil hops. I have some of The Grapeness to trade.

I got some starr hill...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 27, 2016, 10:30:23 pm
Woah, I'll take a six pack of this please. Six pack price about the same as a bottle of BCBS.


Lagunitas High Westified 6 packs

https://lagunitas.com/beers/highwest-ified#
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 27, 2016, 10:43:39 pm
I still got the same amount of Starr Hill left.... if anyone is interested in Starr Hill.. its a local VA brew.. very under the radar micro-brewy...just FYI
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on November 27, 2016, 11:02:02 pm
my favorite beer shop had an anniversary, and I love the owners, so I went and visited them to say congrats.  I tasted some beers on tap, just to remember the taste of excellent beer.

dog fish head -  beer for breakfast.  god awful, but I hate dark stout beer.  brewed with scrapple.  what?!

Susquehanna  -  wam bam, thank you mam.  pretty good

dechutes  -  sage fight imperial.  really good

lagunitas  -  dark swan.  really, really good

chaos mountain  -  margarita gose.    the fucking, fucking bomb.


oh beer, I miss you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 27, 2016, 11:10:52 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on November 27, 2016, 11:02:02 pm
my favorite beer shop had an anniversary, and I love the owners, so I went and visited them to say congrats.  I tasted some beers on tap, just to remember the taste of excellent beer.

dog fish head -  beer for breakfast.  god awful, but I hate dark stout beer.  brewed with scrapple.  what?!

Susquehanna  -  wam bam, thank you mam.  pretty good

dechutes  -  sage fight imperial.  really good

lagunitas  -  dark swan.  really, really good

chaos mountain  -  margarita gose.    the fucking, fucking bomb.


oh beer, I miss you.

 :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o, :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on November 27, 2016, 11:56:35 pm
edit

tasted, meaning, a little small half filled plastic beer tasting cup thing.  it was basically to put a splash on your tongue to swallow a taste.  I wasn't drinking glasses, or anything.

don't, . . . Julian judge me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 28, 2016, 09:33:10 am
Quote from: wood9 on November 27, 2016, 10:43:39 pm
I still got the same amount of Starr Hill left.... if anyone is interested in Starr Hill.. its a local VA brew.. very under the radar micro-brewy...just FYI

AS it should be.  ;)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 28, 2016, 10:23:02 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on November 27, 2016, 11:02:02 pm
dog fish head -  beer for breakfast.  god awful, but I hate dark stout beer.  brewed with scrapple.  what?!

yeah...I was a little excited to try this and wasn't that great, wish I had only bought one and not a 6 pack


Has anyone tried World Wide Stout....they were selling 12oz bottle for $12 and it was really tipping the charts on the Space taste to price  to volume ratio
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 28, 2016, 10:31:24 am
You gotta try it once but I found WWS to be pretty gross the one time I had it many years ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 28, 2016, 11:01:59 am
I liked the WWS the few times I had it, but had to split a bottle 4 ways. 

And yeah, Starr Hill is shite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 29, 2016, 12:39:40 pm
BCBSBW available at foggy bottom WF right now, about 16 bottles left.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2016, 12:45:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 29, 2016, 12:39:40 pm
BCBSBW available at foggy bottom WF right now, about 16 bottles left.

I wish you had posted when Coffee was available. That one got away from me again this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 29, 2016, 12:48:16 pm
Starr Hill is fuckin' gross.. I don't know that I've ever drank such a hideous beer.. all their beers too...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2016, 12:56:15 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 29, 2016, 12:48:16 pm
Starr Hill is fuckin' gross.. I don't know that I've ever drank such a hideous beer.. all their beers too...



I agree based on what I've had.

I often get Starr Hill and Dominion confused. Both pretty bad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 29, 2016, 01:03:44 pm
They didn't get coffee. Dude told me they got one case of Rare, which was gone about 20 seconds after they brought it out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2016, 01:06:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 29, 2016, 01:03:44 pm
They didn't get coffee. Dude told me they got one case of Rare, which was gone about 20 seconds after they brought it out.

Somebody posted this yesterday on BA. Guess it doesn't matter now as it's gone if they ever got it.


1 coffee left @ wf foggy

 Plenty of rare tho
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 29, 2016, 02:15:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 29, 2016, 01:06:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 29, 2016, 01:03:44 pm
They didn't get coffee. Dude told me they got one case of Rare, which was gone about 20 seconds after they brought it out.

Somebody posted this yesterday on BA. Guess it doesn't matter now as it's gone if they ever got it.


1 coffee left @ wf foggy

 Plenty of rare tho

thanks for the tip, but missed out...got a barleywine (there were a few more at cust serv)
but really wanted that coffee :( (or any of the stouts)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2016, 02:29:21 pm
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on November 29, 2016, 02:15:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 29, 2016, 01:06:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 29, 2016, 01:03:44 pm
They didn't get coffee. Dude told me they got one case of Rare, which was gone about 20 seconds after they brought it out.

Somebody posted this yesterday on BA. Guess it doesn't matter now as it's gone if they ever got it.


1 coffee left @ wf foggy

 Plenty of rare tho

thanks for the tip, but missed out...got a barleywine (there were a few more at cust serv)
but really wanted that coffee :( (or any of the stouts)

You probably already follow the BA forums, but just in case, somebody posted this about 30 mins ago.


BCBS & variants dropped at Hop Cask & Barrel.. bring $$$
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 29, 2016, 03:52:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 29, 2016, 02:29:21 pm

You probably already follow the BA forums, but just in case, somebody posted this about 30 mins ago.

I don't ...as I'm really trying to to spend money
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2016, 05:14:30 pm
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on November 29, 2016, 03:52:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 29, 2016, 02:29:21 pm

You probably already follow the BA forums, but just in case, somebody posted this about 30 mins ago.

I don't ...as I'm really trying to to spend money

It was also posted the Cairo Liquors got some but 20 mins later is was posted that Coffee was gone.

Craft Beer Cellar is not getting ANY Bourbon County because they didn't sell enough Goose Island products.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on November 29, 2016, 06:18:52 pm
Just to ask, because I like to ask, is this stuff really worth all of that? I wonder in areas, meaning weird sections of the state where the brewery is located, can it just easily be found sitting on a shelf without any hoopla?   I have one bottle from last year that I was lucky enough to get but I've never tasted it or had it or ever will, so was just curious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on November 30, 2016, 04:51:24 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on November 29, 2016, 06:18:52 pm
Just to ask, because I like to ask, is this stuff really worth all of that? I wonder in areas, meaning weird sections of the state where the brewery is located, can it just easily be found sitting on a shelf without any hoopla?   I have one bottle from last year that I was lucky enough to get but I've never tasted it or had it or ever will, so was just curious.

Its really good. Its thick and very alcoholic. It pairs well with vanilla ice cream (bourbon stout floats rule if you never tried one!). Last year they had some quality control issues with bacteria I do recall so be warned about that. I think the batches were smaller this year so it was flying off shelves. The Total Wine in Manassas sold out of the 2016 batch pretty quick on Black Friday but somehow brought out a few sixers of 2014 bottles the next day so I grabbed a few of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 30, 2016, 03:45:10 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on November 29, 2016, 06:18:52 pm
I wonder in areas, meaning weird sections of the state where the brewery is located, can it just easily be found sitting on a shelf without any hoopla?

the brewery is in chicago and there is plenty of hoopla there on release day.  in fact there is a variant that is only available in chicago - guess how crazy beer geeks are for that beer?

is BCBS a great beer?  yes.  it is worth the time or expense?  i tend to think not.  it's only beer.  i got a few bottle of the barleywine variant because i stumbled across it.  last year i got none because i couldn't be bothered to chase it down.

i paid $15/bottle, with tax.  if that beer were available year round, i doubt i would buy it very often.

Quote from: Unsanity on November 30, 2016, 04:51:24 am
Last year they had some quality control issues with bacteria I do recall so be warned about that.

this year's batch was pasteurized, so no risk on infection. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on December 01, 2016, 05:33:22 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 30, 2016, 03:45:10 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on November 30, 2016, 04:51:24 am
Last year they had some quality control issues with bacteria I do recall so be warned about that.

this year's batch was pasteurized, so no risk on infection. 

Walkie was saying his bottle is from last year. I'm sure its fine. I didn't notice anything wrong with the several bottles I bought and drank in Virginia last year but I still wanted to give a heads up. I still have not tried the new improved pasteurized 2016's I picked up yet, maybe this weekend...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 09:44:35 am
Quote from: Unsanity on December 01, 2016, 05:33:22 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 30, 2016, 03:45:10 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on November 30, 2016, 04:51:24 am
Last year they had some quality control issues with bacteria I do recall so be warned about that.

this year's batch was pasteurized, so no risk on infection. 

Walkie was saying his bottle is from last year. I'm sure its fine. I didn't notice anything wrong with the several bottles I bought and drank in Virginia last year but I still wanted to give a heads up. I still have not tried the new improved pasteurized 2016's I picked up yet, maybe this weekend...

Ok homebrewers, geek me out with an answer. Does pasteurization=improved?

Also name me the best one or two beginners homebrewing books.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2016, 10:47:37 am
If your bourbon county from last year is one of these dates, pour it on your head.

Refunds are available for Bourbon County Brand Stout bottles dated: Oct. 9, Oct. 12, Oct. 21, Oct. 22, Oct. 23, Oct. 26, Oct. 30, Nov. 4 and Nov. 5. The lone bottling date of infected Proprietor's Bourbon County Stout is Sept. 18. All bottling dates are from 2015.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 10:57:03 am
Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells may be the best bottled DIPA I've ever had. Nearly as good as it is on draft.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 01, 2016, 11:00:49 am
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2016, 10:47:37 am
If your bourbon county from last year is one of these dates, pour it on your head.

Refunds are available for Bourbon County Brand Stout bottles dated: Oct. 9, Oct. 12, Oct. 21, Oct. 22, Oct. 23, Oct. 26, Oct. 30, Nov. 4 and Nov. 5. The lone bottling date of infected Proprietor's Bourbon County Stout is Sept. 18. All bottling dates are from 2015.

just checked mine . . . dated 09/30/15.  so, I guess, mine is ok?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2016, 11:01:40 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on December 01, 2016, 11:00:49 am
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2016, 10:47:37 am
If your bourbon county from last year is one of these dates, pour it on your head.

Refunds are available for Bourbon County Brand Stout bottles dated: Oct. 9, Oct. 12, Oct. 21, Oct. 22, Oct. 23, Oct. 26, Oct. 30, Nov. 4 and Nov. 5. The lone bottling date of infected Proprietor's Bourbon County Stout is Sept. 18. All bottling dates are from 2015.

just checked mine . . . dated 09/30/15.  so, I guess, mine is ok?

So they say.... but since you're not drinking again, might as well pour it on your head.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 01, 2016, 11:04:42 am
it will be a gift to someone, who is a newcomer to the world of craft beer, so he will die when someone just gives him one of these.  I love introducing people to the world beyond what most people think as a "microbrewery."

yada, must get off, prince style, by hanging outside of aa meetings, and pointing / laughing.  with a beer, that only comes out once a year, in his hand . . . saying, you'll never know how much this matters.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2016, 11:10:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 09:44:35 am
Quote from: Unsanity on December 01, 2016, 05:33:22 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 30, 2016, 03:45:10 pm
Quote from: Unsanity on November 30, 2016, 04:51:24 am
Last year they had some quality control issues with bacteria I do recall so be warned about that.

this year's batch was pasteurized, so no risk on infection. 

Walkie was saying his bottle is from last year. I'm sure its fine. I didn't notice anything wrong with the several bottles I bought and drank in Virginia last year but I still wanted to give a heads up. I still have not tried the new improved pasteurized 2016's I picked up yet, maybe this weekend...

Ok homebrewers, geek me out with an answer. Does pasteurization=improved?

Also name me the best one or two beginners homebrewing books.

Oh boy... I can only imagine a few years from now when Space's brewing is as excellent as his cooking and beer is no longer worth purchasing from a brewery, just brew it yourself at home!

Julian, please make note of this post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2016, 11:13:14 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on December 01, 2016, 11:04:42 am


yada, must get off, prince style, by hanging outside of aa meetings, and pointing / laughing.  with a beer, that only comes out once a year, in his hand . . . saying, you'll never know how much this matters.

i don't get this post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 01, 2016, 11:15:50 am
it was a joke.  you seem, to like to remind me, that I don't drink anymore.  as if, to rub in my face.  again, it was a joke.  let talk about crazy how ratbastard is or james and islam . . . and forget I brought it up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on December 01, 2016, 01:46:18 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on December 01, 2016, 11:00:49 am
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2016, 10:47:37 am
If your bourbon county from last year is one of these dates, pour it on your head.

Refunds are available for Bourbon County Brand Stout bottles dated: Oct. 9, Oct. 12, Oct. 21, Oct. 22, Oct. 23, Oct. 26, Oct. 30, Nov. 4 and Nov. 5. The lone bottling date of infected Proprietor's Bourbon County Stout is Sept. 18. All bottling dates are from 2015.

just checked mine . . . dated 09/30/15.  so, I guess, mine is ok?

I bought one bottle of regular last year to try what it because of all the hype.  Put it away and didn't really think about it until this year when the hype for 2016 picked up.  Haven't opened it, but sure enough mine is on the bad dates.

And refund date is cut off.  Rather annoyed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 01, 2016, 01:50:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 10:57:03 am
Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells may be the best bottled DIPA I've ever had. Nearly as good as it is on draft.

thanks for this heads-up!  i had never heard of this brewery.  looking at the map, it's easy to get to via subway and it's open until midnight wed-sat.  i'll be hitting this place up next time i'm in the NYC office.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 02:06:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 01, 2016, 01:50:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 10:57:03 am
Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells may be the best bottled DIPA I've ever had. Nearly as good as it is on draft.

thanks for this heads-up!  i had never heard of this brewery.  looking at the map, it's easy to get to via subway and it's open until midnight wed-sat.  i'll be hitting this place up next time i'm in the NYC office.

I had heard the name, so was intrigued when I saw that a local beer store was having Singlecut tap takeover when I was visiting my brother in upstate NY over the summer. We stopped in and were totally blown away.

They just started shipping small quantities of single (pricey) bottles and select kegs to DC. I've had that bottle as well as a couple of others on draft at Smoke and Barrel. All excellent. The beer director for Smoke and Barrel/NP/BP made similar flattering comments regarding the hoppy beers from SingleCut in the BA forum.

We're hoping to hit the brewery when we go to NYC in January (also considering LIC Beer Project in Queens, as well as Other Half and Threes in Brooklyn). I'll post a review here if we do so. If you're there anytime soon, let us know how it is!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2016, 03:35:14 pm
Velvet Merkin dropping around MD and morsels of BCBS still to be found.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 01, 2016, 03:37:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 09:44:35 am
Also name me the best one or two beginners homebrewing books.

The Complete Joy of Homebrewing (https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Joy-Homebrewing-Fourth-Revised/dp/0062215752/): this book is the equivalent of your goofy uncle teaching you to brew.  the science/techiness is kept in check (not to say that there isn't any science, just not as much as other books).  the emphasis is on getting you brewing, vs. making you a theoretical expert.  this book is the origin of the expression "relax, don't worry, have a homebrew" - the author's advice to brewers who get hung up on small details.

How to Brew (https://www.amazon.com/How-Brew-Everything-Right-First/dp/0937381888/): aka "The Bible."  the tagline says it all: Everything You Need To Know To Brew Beer Right The First Time.  it starts off slow, but does eventually get into the scientific details.  the author does a great job explaining to you why you should care about those details.  current edition is the 3rd, the author has been working on the 4th for some time now but no publication date yet.  the first edition is online (http://howtobrew.com/), but it's dated.  i would invest in the newest edition.

my suggestion: start with the joy of homebrewing.  that will keep you happy for many months, then you can get how to brew to answer the questions you will inevitably build up.  i started off with the joy, but i haven't touched that book since my 3rd or 4th months of brewing.  how to brew, however, is a reference book you go back to no matter how long you've been brewing.

and if you're more visual/less literate: consider these DVDs (http://beersmith.com/dvd/) (or online video rentals).  get the "with extract" version first.

and looks like there are some simple videos in YT like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgPdttvbhU4.  they seem to only cover the mechanics ("add X to Y, stir, then pour") and provide little explanation as to why you're doing something. 

i'll answer pasteurization=improved? later...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2016, 07:31:15 pm
^excellent... was asked for some reasonably priced items for the xmas list!
I personally think 1 gallon is a good way to start (although I've yet to graduate)

$15-20 worth of ingredients and you get almost two six packs
the variety you can make is off the charts
there are limitations and your refined pallet would have little patience
but it's far better than $50 worth of materials on a batch that sucks


Not beer....but, I did go with the Apfelwein in a five gallon carboy for xmas gifts this year.
been in there since before halloween
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 01, 2016, 07:39:05 pm
Natty-bo.. tell me its not owned by a nazi

I'm also drinking the Port City IPa from Alexandria.. I'm not impressed..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 01, 2016, 08:12:29 pm
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on December 01, 2016, 07:31:15 pm
I personally think 1 gallon is a good way to start (although I've yet to graduate)

$15-20 worth of ingredients and you get almost two six packs
the variety you can make is off the charts
there are limitations and your refined pallet would have little patience
but it's far better than $50 worth of materials on a batch that sucks


Not beer....but, I did go with the Apfelwein in a five gallon carboy for xmas gifts this year.
been in there since before halloween

tough debate.  making 5 gallons isn't much harder, or longer, than making 1... so many are tempted to go for the larger batch.  a definite benefit of 1 gal batches is that you need little to no additional equipment.  for 5 gals, you need a carboy or bucket, ideally a larger pot (to do a full-volume boil), a bottling bucket etc.

there is even more variety in 5-gal kits than in 1 gallon.

sidehatch, have you made a batch that was undrinkable?  i've made some lackluster beers, but in all my brewing (100 batches?  more?), only 2 have been dumpers... and neither were in my first year of brewing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2016, 09:47:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 01, 2016, 08:12:29 pm
have you made a batch that was undrinkable?  
sadly my standards are low...I would say I've had maybe 2-3 that were bad to meh
Most I've thought were pretty damn crushable

but it's like your kids art, it always has some sentimental value as you injest it
10 beers is doable even if it's meh
I remember 2 decades ago making 2 cases that I held my nose and powered through against my better judgment

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 02, 2016, 08:46:08 am
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on December 01, 2016, 09:47:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 01, 2016, 08:12:29 pm
have you made a batch that was undrinkable?  
sadly my standards are low...I would say I've had maybe 2-3 that were bad to meh
Most I've thought were pretty damn crushable

but it's like your kids art, it always has some sentimental value as you injest it
10 beers is doable even if it's meh
I remember 2 decades ago making 2 cases that I held my nose and powered through against my better judgment




geez.. not much of a sales job...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 02, 2016, 10:17:58 am
I think sidebeer is about two years late on hooking me up with his epiQ home brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 02, 2016, 11:12:34 am
Thanks for the info guys. I think I once owned the Joy of Homebrewing, but it seems to be gone from my bookshelves. I bought the How to Brew book even before posting my question, so good to know I was on the right track with that one.

A friend expressed an interest in possibly doing it with me. And my hophead wife is always up for new creative kitchen adventures. So we'll see if it goes anywhere in 2017. I can't imagine myself ever brewing beers well enough that I'd stop buying well priced gems like Lagunitas Born Yesterday or hitting a new brewery when possible, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 02, 2016, 01:08:45 pm
interesting marketing... #klanbeer


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxWcrxSIMAAU1EN.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 02, 2016, 02:25:21 pm
Now sold at every bar at every Trump Hotel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2016, 03:40:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 02, 2016, 01:08:45 pm
interesting marketing... #klanbeer


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxWcrxSIMAAU1EN.jpg)

clearly this a fake, klan been would never be black...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2016, 03:50:11 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 02, 2016, 11:12:34 am
A friend expressed an interest in possibly doing it with me. And my hophead wife is always up for new creative kitchen adventures. So we'll see if it goes anywhere in 2017.

happy to help!  maybe we should start a homebrewing thread?

check out homebrewtalk (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/), a great online community for homebrewers.  best part is the forum (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum.php) where you'll get an answer to any question you might have.  check out the Beginners Beer Brewing Forum (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=39) thread for "brewing 101" discussions.

Quote from: Space Freely on December 02, 2016, 11:12:34 am
I can't imagine myself ever brewing beers well enough that I'd stop buying well priced gems like Lagunitas Born Yesterday or hitting a new brewery when possible, etc.

anyone who thinks that they'll spend less on commercial beer once they start homebrewing is delusional.  knowing the process just make you more curious.  you'll want to brew a new style but of course need to taste it first, you need to compare your beer to a commercial example, you buy a sour for the bugs, etc etc etc...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 02, 2016, 04:38:25 pm
if you're feeling generous this holiday season, donate to a great cause and win some killer beers.

check out @beersnobbin on Instagram for details. This guy gives away killer beer on a weekly basis even when not raising money for children. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 03, 2016, 12:22:26 am
Quote from: Yada on December 02, 2016, 04:38:25 pm
if you're feeling generous this holiday season, donate to a great cause and win some killer beers.

check out @beersnobbin on Instagram for details. This guy gives away killer beer on a weekly basis even when not raising money for children. 

good tip
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 04, 2016, 06:10:46 pm
The, pipeline.

Edit.  Wow, I feel embarrassed.  My above post was done while sitting at a stoplight after I think it was getting close to dark after I read the news that the protesters had won.

Im too lazy, to move this post to the dropping like flies thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 04, 2016, 10:27:26 pm
Commonwealth (out of VA beach)...well goddamn that is one tasty DIPA
got a growler of the NE DIPA called Big Papi

Virginia is really producing some serious beverages
only wish it was in my zip code
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2016, 10:53:58 am
Barrel Aged Ted Fidy  > BCBS and by a hair a bit friendlier in the space ounce:cost ratio.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 05, 2016, 11:30:05 am
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2016, 10:53:58 am
Barrel Aged Ted Fidy  > BCBS and by a hair a bit friendlier in the space ounce:cost ratio.

Depending on how much of it I can get my hands on, High Westified at $12/six pack may negate me from ever purchasing any other barrel aged beer again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 05, 2016, 11:40:12 am
I've decided Natty Boh blows.. I used to think it was OK but this last batch just didn't do it for me...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 05, 2016, 12:08:05 pm
Achievement Unlocked +1
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2016, 12:42:29 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on December 05, 2016, 12:08:05 pm
Achievement Unlocked +1

as in the english pale ale from MN? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 05, 2016, 12:56:47 pm
As in hutch's palate finally growing a pair.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2016, 01:37:04 pm
ah... agreed.  but as long any industrial light lager continues to be his favorite beer, he's still got some growing to do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2016, 05:28:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 05, 2016, 11:30:05 am
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2016, 10:53:58 am
Barrel Aged Ted Fidy  > BCBS and by a hair a bit friendlier in the space ounce:cost ratio.

Depending on how much of it I can get my hands on, High Westified at $12/six pack may negate me from ever purchasing any other barrel aged beer again.

from another beer thread...

"Also, I'm not sure if this was discussed in detail earlier, but the reason you see Lagunitas High-Westified 6-packs for ~$10 everywhere is that Constellations Brands, which bought Ballast Point, also owns High West. As a result, Lagunitas can't get any more barrels (they'll all be going to BP), so they decided to unload everything dirt cheap and set the market for quality, High West BA beer, thus turning any High West stuff BP releases into shelf turds if the price is out of line and the quality isn't much better."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 05, 2016, 05:31:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2016, 05:28:51 pm
, thus turning any High West stuff BP releases into shelf turds
not sure I understand...but that is a great band name
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 05, 2016, 05:32:50 pm
Lagunitas is diving on their price to remind everybody that Ballast Point is overpriced.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2016, 06:17:35 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 02:06:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 01, 2016, 01:50:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 10:57:03 am
Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells may be the best bottled DIPA I've ever had. Nearly as good as it is on draft.

thanks for this heads-up!  i had never heard of this brewery.  looking at the map, it's easy to get to via subway and it's open until midnight wed-sat.  i'll be hitting this place up next time i'm in the NYC office.

I had heard the name, so was intrigued when I saw that a local beer store was having Singlecut tap takeover when I was visiting my brother in upstate NY over the summer. We stopped in and were totally blown away.

They just started shipping small quantities of single (pricey) bottles and select kegs to DC. I've had that bottle as well as a couple of others on draft at Smoke and Barrel. All excellent. The beer director for Smoke and Barrel/NP/BP made similar flattering comments regarding the hoppy beers from SingleCut in the BA forum.

We're hoping to hit the brewery when we go to NYC in January (also considering LIC Beer Project in Queens, as well as Other Half and Threes in Brooklyn). I'll post a review here if we do so. If you're there anytime soon, let us know how it is!

It sounds like your NYC visit is purely beer focused, so don't sleep on Sand City brewing. Had a few of their offerings over the weekend and they're producing juice bombs that all the kids love. I can't comment on how family friendly their brewery is or isn't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 05, 2016, 08:03:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2016, 06:17:35 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 02:06:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 01, 2016, 01:50:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2016, 10:57:03 am
Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells may be the best bottled DIPA I've ever had. Nearly as good as it is on draft.

thanks for this heads-up!  i had never heard of this brewery.  looking at the map, it's easy to get to via subway and it's open until midnight wed-sat.  i'll be hitting this place up next time i'm in the NYC office.

I had heard the name, so was intrigued when I saw that a local beer store was having Singlecut tap takeover when I was visiting my brother in upstate NY over the summer. We stopped in and were totally blown away.

They just started shipping small quantities of single (pricey) bottles and select kegs to DC. I've had that bottle as well as a couple of others on draft at Smoke and Barrel. All excellent. The beer director for Smoke and Barrel/NP/BP made similar flattering comments regarding the hoppy beers from SingleCut in the BA forum.

We're hoping to hit the brewery when we go to NYC in January (also considering LIC Beer Project in Queens, as well as Other Half and Threes in Brooklyn). I'll post a review here if we do so. If you're there anytime soon, let us know how it is!

It sounds like your NYC visit is purely beer focused, so don't sleep on Sand City brewing. Had a few of their offerings over the weekend and they're producing juice bombs that all the kids love. I can't comment on how family friendly their brewery is or isn't.

One day for Queens, one day for Brooklyn, one day for Manhattan. Not entireiy beer focused, but beer will get it's fair share.

Isn't Sand City on Long Island? Won't be on Long Island. Do they can/distribute in one of the boroughs?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 05, 2016, 08:05:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2016, 05:28:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 05, 2016, 11:30:05 am
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2016, 10:53:58 am
Barrel Aged Ted Fidy  > BCBS and by a hair a bit friendlier in the space ounce:cost ratio.

Depending on how much of it I can get my hands on, High Westified at $12/six pack may negate me from ever purchasing any other barrel aged beer again.

from another beer thread...

"Also, I'm not sure if this was discussed in detail earlier, but the reason you see Lagunitas High-Westified 6-packs for ~$10 everywhere is that Constellations Brands, which bought Ballast Point, also owns High West. As a result, Lagunitas can't get any more barrels (they'll all be going to BP), so they decided to unload everything dirt cheap and set the market for quality, High West BA beer, thus turning any High West stuff BP releases into shelf turds if the price is out of line and the quality isn't much better."

That is genius. Lagunitas is owned by Heineken so no doubt they can take the short term loss to fuck BP on the long term.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 05, 2016, 08:25:03 pm
Anchor Steam


I like Anchor Steam.. its a reliably tasty beer for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 05, 2016, 10:51:37 pm
I walked through a Total Wine in Northern Virginia this evening because my partner wanted to get a nice bottle of Rose, for a Christmas get together.  The amount of individual brands of beers from American breweries to all the old standard Belgium and foreign imported breweries made me realize that there are too many beers out there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2016, 11:55:35 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 05, 2016, 08:25:03 pm
Anchor Steam


I like Anchor Steam.. its a reliably tasty beer for me.

i'm shedding a tear over here... our little hutchie is growing up!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on December 06, 2016, 11:35:04 am
Was very impressed by BA Ten Fidy, that's a great beer. I also have to give props to this year's release of BCBS because that sombitch is drinkable now. No need to age it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 06, 2016, 11:40:38 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 05, 2016, 11:55:35 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 05, 2016, 08:25:03 pm
Anchor Steam


I like Anchor Steam.. its a reliably tasty beer for me.

i'm shedding a tear over here... our little hutchie is growing up!

I can't wait till he tries a Foster's Oil Can!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 06, 2016, 12:08:45 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on December 05, 2016, 10:51:37 pm
there are too many beers out there.

The market is indeed saturated. That goes for breweries, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 06, 2016, 06:10:27 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on December 06, 2016, 11:40:38 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 05, 2016, 11:55:35 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 05, 2016, 08:25:03 pm
Anchor Steam


I like Anchor Steam.. its a reliably tasty beer for me.

i'm shedding a tear over here... our little hutchie is growing up!

I can't wait till he tries a Foster's Oil Can!
his beverage of choice when at the black cat
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 06, 2016, 06:22:19 pm
last chance to donate to a great cause and win some whalez

https://www.instagram.com/beersnobbin

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on December 06, 2016, 06:53:58 pm
I entered.  Looks pretty cool. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 07, 2016, 01:49:58 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 01, 2016, 03:37:16 pm
i'll answer pasteurization=improved? later...

better put a few thoughts down before i forget...

pasteurizing a beer affects it in two ways: biologically and chemically.

the heat will kill anything in the beer - yeast, bacteria, mold, etc.  for a clean (non-sour and non-funky) beer, this is generally a good thing (as long as you're not trying to bottle-condition the beer).  so for a beer like BCBS, which is force-carbonated before going in the bottle, pasteurization should be beneficial from a biological point of view.  whatever bug ruined last year's batch won't appear again this year, thanks to the flash-heating.  (aside: some sour/funky beers are pasteurized, like rodenbach or new belgium.  their stated goal is to "freeze" the development of the beer - they release it when it's just the way they want it, and they don't want it changing in the bottle.  i'm not a fan of this, i like my sours to evolve over time.  let me decide when the beer is at its best, dammit).

chemically, pasteurizing does impact the make-up of a beer - and thus impacts the flavor.  supposedly flash pasteurization, which a lot of breweries use, has minimal impact on the beer.  i have not had the opportunity to taste pasteurized vs. unpasteurized beer, but i have had pasteurized vs. unpasteurized milk and there is a noticeable difference.  the impact on beer might be different (maybe the fat in milk is more affected than the carbohydrates in beer) but it can't be positive IMO.

overall i'm not a fan of pasteurizing beer.  beer is supposed to be alive.  plenty of breweries send live beer out the door so it can be done.

however, from a business perspective pasteurization makes a lot of sense.  GI lost a lot of money and consumer goodwill because of last year's infection. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 07, 2016, 01:11:52 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 07, 2016, 01:49:58 am
beer is supposed to be alive. 
Yes!


(https://media.giphy.com/media/11TvyKJKXKszAs/source.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 07, 2016, 09:11:56 pm
Did not Enjoy - by 12.25.16
wasn't like a drain pour thing, but not even close to a top 10 DIPA that I've had in 2016
but somewhat glad I over paid for a single than a 6 pack
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on December 08, 2016, 10:40:49 pm
Steep mark up, but no line for Bourbon County Regular and Barley at Yes market in Eastern market.  $15.99 ad $19.99 I think.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 09, 2016, 09:55:33 am
Quote from: gavroche on December 08, 2016, 10:40:49 pm
Steep mark up, but no line for Bourbon County Regular and Barley at Yes market in Eastern market.  $15.99 ad $19.99 I think.

Just say NO to Yes Market.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 09, 2016, 01:07:00 pm
yeash.  barleywine was $13.99 at whole foods.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on December 09, 2016, 02:44:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 09, 2016, 01:07:00 pm
yeash.  barleywine was $13.99 at whole foods.

Definitely won't hear me defending them.  If only Eastern Market had a Whole Foods.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 09, 2016, 04:23:38 pm
in case this is relevant to anyone: WF foggy bottom is about to put BCBS and Abraxas on tap.  abraxas ~$35/growler, bcbs probably more.

i was hoping to get a growler of Boulevard's Simcoe Wet Hopped Harvest Ale, but the keg kicked while i was in line.  didn't have time to wait for the new stuff to come on, and they dind't have anything else i wanted a growler of (Old Tom was close, but not sure i need 64 oz of that) so i grabbed a very fresh sixer of The Truth.  haven't had that in a while.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 09, 2016, 04:54:49 pm
they're giving it away!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2016, 03:34:29 pm
Somehow I managed to find a laser tag place less than one mile from Ocelot this weekend
So, I got to fit in little daddy-daughter time and hit a brewpub I've been itching to go to
Didn't realize it was going to cost me close to $10 in tolls to get there
Changed the route on the way back and it only added 15 mins

Great venue but not the most kid friendly place, but they were at least 5 kids there around 1pm

the Hope IPA (hops for hope (http://www.missingkids.com/hopsforhope)) was soo good I decided to get a growler to take with me home

I also enjoyed the Hourglass body (on nitro) and Capsized
Fuquette was an interesting colab (W the Answer) DIPA.  good, not great.
Wish I didn't drive ...as I was bummed I didn't try the Painless or Powers of Observation

wasn't that impressed with Foggy rather Groggy or Roller-coaster
they were good, but would have rather tried the darker offerings

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 11, 2016, 04:19:41 pm
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on December 11, 2016, 03:34:29 pm
Somehow I managed to find a laser tag place less than one mile from Ocelot this weekend
So, I got to fit in little daddy-daughter time and hit a brewpub I've been itching to go to
Didn't realize it was going to cost me close to $10 in tolls to get there
Changed the route on the way back and it only added 15 mins

Great venue but not the most kid friendly place, but they were at least 5 kids there around 1pm

the Hope IPA (hops for hope (http://www.missingkids.com/hopsforhope)) was soo good I decided to get a growler to take with me home

I also enjoyed the Hourglass body (on nitro) and Capsized
Fuquette was an interesting colab (W the Answer) DIPA.  good, not great.
Wish I didn't drive ...as I was bummed I didn't try the Painless or Powers of Observation

wasn't that impressed with Foggy rather Groggy or Roller-coaster
they were good, but would have rather tried the darker offerings



Really? My daughter actually loves Ocelot and hates Aslin. "Ocelot has more space, and sells Doritos."

My question is, how is the laser tag place? Worth the money?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2016, 04:35:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 11, 2016, 04:19:41 pm

Really? My daughter actually loves Ocelot and hates Aslin. "Ocelot has more space, and sells Doritos."

My question is, how is the laser tag place? Worth the money?
well compared to aslin this place is Disney world
but that's a low bar.  Way more space and nice deck when temps are good
Things that make it kid friendly....lots of room, food, outdoor space and games
Wardecca is in the lead for most kid friendly DMV brewery


Laser tag...well if you get there by 10-11:30am on weekends...kids games are $5
single kid or adult rest of the time is $10 a game (3 game pass for $20 is the deal)
they did have this feature called Laser frenzy (https://youtu.be/aXpnTsq1Ybs) which is very mission impossible where you have to avoid hitting the lasers...but of course it was broken :( and was one of the main reasons we went ($3 per game for that)

I have only been to a few LaserTag places, but this had two levels and a pretty big area I though it was good
but pretty standard
I've yet to do it where we go with 20 people and really play against each other

What annoys me the most is the have barley any real video games and mostly those games with the arm to pick a prize and basicly spend $10 to get a 25 cent rubber ducky

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2016, 07:18:40 pm
got a 10oz of the BCBS at Whole Foods Pst

it was good, but a little 'hot' with alcohol
would love to know what it tastes like aged for a year or two
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on December 12, 2016, 03:37:15 am
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on December 11, 2016, 04:35:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 11, 2016, 04:19:41 pm

Really? My daughter actually loves Ocelot and hates Aslin. "Ocelot has more space, and sells Doritos."

My question is, how is the laser tag place? Worth the money?
well compared to aslin this place is Disney world
but that's a low bar.  Way more space and nice deck when temps are good
Things that make it kid friendly....lots of room, food, outdoor space and games
Wardecca is in the lead for most kid friendly DMV brewery


Laser tag...well if you get there by 10-11:30am on weekends...kids games are $5
single kid or adult rest of the time is $10 a game (3 game pass for $20 is the deal)
they did have this feature called Laser frenzy (https://youtu.be/aXpnTsq1Ybs) which is very mission impossible where you have to avoid hitting the lasers...but of course it was broken :( and was one of the main reasons we went ($3 per game for that)

I have only been to a few LaserTag places, but this had two levels and a pretty big area I though it was good
but pretty standard
I've yet to do it where we go with 20 people and really play against each other

What annoys me the most is the have barley any real video games and mostly those games with the arm to pick a prize and basicly spend $10 to get a 25 cent rubber ducky

I went to that laser tag place once for a friend's birthday. I did very poorly and found out how out of shape I was haha. Those little kids owned me! Also of note is the Kabob place next to the laser tag place. Its called Dulles Kabob and I found it highly enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 13, 2016, 12:01:07 am
ohh myy...aslin going with the bottle releases this month
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15492383_795071487298942_4178200443809433983_n.jpg?oh=44d36de76b7eb8951fb443c5043b9c75&oe=58EF9E8E)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 13, 2016, 12:20:06 am
I swear the way you guys go on about Aslin when I finally drink one I'm going to expect an orgasm...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 13, 2016, 09:27:41 am
Quote from: hutch on December 13, 2016, 12:20:06 am
I swear the way you guys go on about Aslin when I finally drink one I'm going to expect an orgasm...

I think you'll go on about their ridiculously high prices.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: fatskippy on December 13, 2016, 11:24:54 am
750ml bottles for IPAs? meh
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 13, 2016, 12:03:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 13, 2016, 09:27:41 am
Quote from: hutch on December 13, 2016, 12:20:06 am
I swear the way you guys go on about Aslin when I finally drink one I'm going to expect an orgasm...

I think you'll go on about their ridiculously high prices.

Cheaper than trillium when they used that  format.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 13, 2016, 12:10:12 pm
What's the consensus on tipping for growler fills?  If I'm paying $16-$17 for a 64 oz fill and maybe grab a pint while I'm there - tip on the pint and maybe a buck or 2 for the fill?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 13, 2016, 12:15:27 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on December 13, 2016, 12:10:12 pm
What's the consensus on tipping for growler fills?  If I'm paying $16-$17 for a 64 oz fill and maybe grab a pint while I'm there - tip on the pint and maybe a buck or 2 for the fill?

Yes, tip for the pint.

Do you tip when you get carry-out food from a restaurant? And if so, what percentage? There's your answer to the growler question.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 13, 2016, 12:30:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 13, 2016, 12:15:27 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on December 13, 2016, 12:10:12 pm
What's the consensus on tipping for growler fills?  If I'm paying $16-$17 for a 64 oz fill and maybe grab a pint while I'm there - tip on the pint and maybe a buck or 2 for the fill?

Yes, tip for the pint.

Do you tip when you get carry-out food from a restaurant? And if so, what percentage? There's your answer to the growler question.

I don't, but leave feeling like I should have.  Catholic guilt, perhaps.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 13, 2016, 12:44:44 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on December 13, 2016, 12:30:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 13, 2016, 12:15:27 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on December 13, 2016, 12:10:12 pm
What's the consensus on tipping for growler fills?  If I'm paying $16-$17 for a 64 oz fill and maybe grab a pint while I'm there - tip on the pint and maybe a buck or 2 for the fill?

Yes, tip for the pint.

Do you tip when you get carry-out food from a restaurant? And if so, what percentage? There's your answer to the growler question.

I don't, but leave feeling like I should have.  Catholic guilt, perhaps.

Well if they are exceptional in their service, and there's no rule against tipping, and it makes you feel good, tip them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 15, 2016, 09:37:49 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzrEtEaWIAA_RWc.jpg)
Hutch ...I found a beer with your name on it...almost
cool freaking can by local dc brewery
no idea how it tastes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 18, 2016, 08:01:35 pm
So I've been drinking a serious amount of stouts
Baltic porters, Chocolate Stout, oatmeal stout, milk stout, and imperial stout
basically lots of jet black roasted goodness

only problem is...I think I've gained 10 pounds
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 18, 2016, 10:11:47 pm
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on December 18, 2016, 08:01:35 pm
So I've been drinking a serious amount of stouts
Baltic porters, Chocolate Stout, oatmeal stout, milk stout, and imperial stout
basically lots of jet black roasted goodness

only problem is...I think I've gained 10 pounds

you are looking rather stout lately...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 19, 2016, 05:30:05 pm
Speaking of gaining 10 pounds, I found the perfect beer to pair with bread pudding. At 12.5% abv, I had to limit myself to one 12 oz goblet. Boulevard Collaboration #6 (with Firestone Walker)

Collaboration No. 6 will be composed of the following beers:

Boulevard Bourbon Barrel Quad ? 45%
Based loosely on the Smokestack Series? The Sixth Glass, this abbey-style quadrupel is separated into a number of oak bourbon barrels where it ages for varying lengths of time, some for up to three years. Cherries are added to make up for the ?angel?s share? of beer lost during barrel aging. Selected barrels are then blended for optimum flavor. The resulting beer retains only very subtle cherry characteristics, with toffee and vanilla notes coming to the fore.
ABV ? 11.8, IBU ? 19

Firestone Walker Stickee Monkee ? 35%
Brewed with Belgian candi sugar and aged in a selection of fine bourbon barrels, Stickee Monkee trailblazes its own category as a ?Central Coast Quad.? The name Stickee Monkee is a nod to the Central Coast?s native Sticky Monkey flower, as well as a shout­‐out to the Belgian monks who pioneered the Quad style. The Belgian candi sugar imparts a signature molasses sweetness to the beer. Meanwhile, maturation in bourbon casks brings ample barrel expression with notes of toasted oak, coconut, leather and cigar tobacco.
ABV ? 13, IBU ? 45

Imperial Stout X ? Tart Cherry (Whiskey Barrel-aged) ? 10%
Our special treat for lovers of big, complex stouts, the Imperial Stout ?X? series offers a year-long roster of limited releases, each with a significant variation. This riff spotlights the addition of tart cherries to fermentation as well as a lactic souring on the brewhouse. The result is a perfect marriage of robust, smoky maltiness and bracing tartness. Unlike the release version of Imperial Stout X ? Tart Cherry, this portion was briefly aged in previously used whiskey barrels.
ABV ? 11, IBU ? 64

Firestone Walker Velvet Merkin ? 10%
Velvet Merkin is the beer that almost wasn?t?Indeed, this vintage oatmeal stout?s comical (or is it scandalous?) name went off the grid for several years, but now it?s back due to popular demand. Velvet Merkin is aged for a full year in retired spirits barrels from Heaven Hill, Woodford Reserve and others, yet manages to offer mind-­boggling balance and restraint. You will wig out when you taste Velvet Merkin?s rich milk chocolate, bourbon and espresso flavors, preceded by aromas of vanilla, coconut, toasted oak and mocha.
ABV ? 8.5, IBU ? 33
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 21, 2016, 10:00:10 am
Made a trip to Veil yesterday to stock up on beers for the holidays... this one hits it out of the park, basically drinking a raspberry smoovie gose. Never Never Again Again by Veil...

They are quickly becoming my favorite brewery other than possibly Trillium for hoppy beverages. Finished the evening off at Answer with a few delicious Andalls and a killer chicken bowl. I unfortunately didn't get the invite to sleep on Julian's couch.

(https://s27.postimg.org/tz6gntxoz/20161220_161749.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 21, 2016, 10:04:59 am
Quote from: Yada on December 21, 2016, 10:00:10 am
I unfortunately didn't get the invite to sleep on Julian's couch.
I unfortunately didn't get the invite to join you at The Veil.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 21, 2016, 10:38:37 am
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on December 21, 2016, 10:04:59 am
Quote from: Yada on December 21, 2016, 10:00:10 am
I unfortunately didn't get the invite to sleep on Julian's couch.
I unfortunately didn't get the invite to join you at The Veil.
The Veil is great...they were up here for that fest in november and spent almost the whole time talking to one of the owners and drinking theirs and The answer's delicious beverages

Greg Engert is in tight with these guys and keeps getting kegs for his restaurants...only way to get it in DC (unless you get someone to get cans on tue/wed)

Did you see they named a beer after you at the Answer...I'm sure it's awesome

Julian Buck (Andall) -The Answer
Stout - Imperial / Double

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 21, 2016, 11:10:28 am
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on December 21, 2016, 10:38:37 am
Greg Engert is in tight with these guys and keeps getting kegs for his restaurants...only way to get it in DC (unless you get someone to get cans on tue/wed)
Same here. If a restaurant is given a keg here (which is super uncommon and requires knowing one of the brewers), there is a strict "no social media" policy about letting people know you have it. It's weird.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 21, 2016, 11:19:27 am
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on December 21, 2016, 11:10:28 am
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on December 21, 2016, 10:38:37 am
Greg Engert is in tight with these guys and keeps getting kegs for his restaurants...only way to get it in DC (unless you get someone to get cans on tue/wed)
Same here. If a restaurant is given a keg here (which is super uncommon and requires knowing one of the brewers), there is a strict "no social media" policy about letting people know you have it. It's weird.

If i lived in Richmond I'd just saddle up at Veil every day. The kegs are a plenty, it's the cans that are minimal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 21, 2016, 12:56:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 21, 2016, 11:19:27 am
The kegs are a plenty, it's the cans that are minimal.
Yes, the tap room is usually well stocked. I meant the amount of kegs they distribute to other  establishments in town are every bit as scarce/rare as in DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 21, 2016, 01:27:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 21, 2016, 10:00:10 am
Made a trip to Veil yesterday to stock up on beers for the holidays... this one hits it out of the park, basically drinking a raspberry smoovie gose. Never Never Again Again by Veil...

They are quickly becoming my favorite brewery other than possibly Trillium for hoppy beverages. Finished the evening off at Answer with a few delicious Andalls and a killer chicken bowl. I unfortunately didn't get the invite to sleep on Julian's couch.

(https://s27.postimg.org/tz6gntxoz/20161220_161749.jpg)

I thought about heading down yesterday, but decided not to subject my daughter to my beer impulses at the beginning of her 2+ week vacation.

Now next Tuesday when my wife is off and we've been stuck in the house for the second of three long weekends, that might be fair game. Assuming I'm not out car shopping.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 21, 2016, 03:49:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 21, 2016, 01:27:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 21, 2016, 10:00:10 am
Made a trip to Veil yesterday to stock up on beers for the holidays... this one hits it out of the park, basically drinking a raspberry smoovie gose. Never Never Again Again by Veil...

They are quickly becoming my favorite brewery other than possibly Trillium for hoppy beverages. Finished the evening off at Answer with a few delicious Andalls and a killer chicken bowl. I unfortunately didn't get the invite to sleep on Julian's couch.

(https://s27.postimg.org/tz6gntxoz/20161220_161749.jpg)

I thought about heading down yesterday, but decided not to subject my daughter to my beer impulses at the beginning of her 2+ week vacation.

Now next Tuesday when my wife is off and we've been stuck in the house for the second of three long weekends, that might be fair game. Assuming I'm not out car shopping.

In terms of beer, that line up from yesterday is about as good as it gets. I hope to make a quarterly Veil visit part of my new year's resolution.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 21, 2016, 04:18:34 pm
If you guys will just paypal/venmo me the $$, I'd pick it up for you and priority mail it. Not every week or anything but occasionally. That's got to be cheaper than the gas down here (not to mention the time).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 21, 2016, 05:31:25 pm
Jesus, Christ.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 21, 2016, 10:02:14 pm
If only one could Priority Mail beer......

Can you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 22, 2016, 08:29:05 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 21, 2016, 10:02:14 pm
If only one could Priority Mail beer......

Can you?

Fed Ex is the preferred method for shipping beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 22, 2016, 10:23:05 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 21, 2016, 10:02:14 pm
If only one could Priority Mail beer......

Can you?
Pardon my ignorance, but how would they know?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 22, 2016, 12:47:28 pm
Fair question. I presumed they have methods for figuring that out. Kinda like the airlines do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 22, 2016, 12:49:33 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 22, 2016, 12:47:28 pm
Fair question. I presumed they have methods for figuring that out. Kinda like the airlines do.
Well Airlines are physically opening your checked luggage and x-raying all your bags (unless you have Pre-check). 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 22, 2016, 02:56:52 pm
when you ship, priority mail . . . they ask, if it is fragile, perishable, liquid, hazardous or explosive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 22, 2016, 03:08:58 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on December 22, 2016, 02:56:52 pm
when you ship, priority mail . . . they ask, if it is fragile, perishable, liquid, hazardous or explosive.

Tell them it is a fragile liquid and they need to be very careful when handling your homemade hot sauce that you're sending to your grandmother.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 22, 2016, 03:17:47 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 22, 2016, 03:08:58 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on December 22, 2016, 02:56:52 pm
when you ship, priority mail . . . they ask, if it is fragile, perishable, liquid, hazardous or explosive.

Tell them it is a fragile liquid and they need to be very careful when handling your homemade hot sauce that you're sending to your grandmother.
Exactly. Cans of beer aren't exactly fragile if you package them correctly, anyway. How the hell are they going to know?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 22, 2016, 04:10:50 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on December 22, 2016, 03:17:47 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 22, 2016, 03:08:58 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on December 22, 2016, 02:56:52 pm
when you ship, priority mail . . . they ask, if it is fragile, perishable, liquid, hazardous or explosive.

Tell them it is a fragile liquid and they need to be very careful when handling your homemade hot sauce that you're sending to your grandmother.
Exactly. Cans of beer aren't exactly fragile if you package them correctly, anyway. How the hell are they going to know?

Just don't get caught.

While we don't advise breaking the law, if you're going to go this route, at least avoid using the USPS. Because FedEx and UPS are licensed to ship alcohol, it's only a violation of company policy to ship alcohol. However, using the USPS to ship alcohol is illegal, and the ramifications of getting caught are far worse.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 22, 2016, 05:00:11 pm
Dangerous to ship. Not so much to receive it, I take it?

Kinda like bootlegs back in the day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 22, 2016, 05:10:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 22, 2016, 04:10:50 pm
Because FedEx and UPS are licensed to ship alcohol, it's only a violation of company policy to ship alcohol. However, using the USPS to ship alcohol is illegal, and the ramifications of getting caught are far worse.
^^ Ahh, now that answer makes sense.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 22, 2016, 06:44:33 pm
i'm spending xmas on the northern californian coast.  not exactly bikini weather but the beer is good :)  bro-in-law just showed up with some Pliny, until now we've been drinking Freemont and really fresh SNPA, Sucks and Maximus (Lagunitas is a few hours down the road from here).  looking likely that i'll be leading a field trip to Russian River tomorrow ;D

Quote from: Yada on December 21, 2016, 10:00:10 am
Made a trip to Veil yesterday to stock up on beers for the holidays...

when i first read that, i though you meant Veil as in the ski resort in Colorado.  "humm, maybe yada IS shacking up with julian after all..."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 22, 2016, 06:48:04 pm
shipping alcohol via USPS, regardless of class of service, is a federal offense.  not sure what the chances are of getting caught because i don't know of anyone who has tried it. 

i have always used a private carrier (Fedex because it's convenient for me), pay & print label from home and quickly drop off the box before they have time to ask questions.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 25, 2016, 08:09:07 pm
2-year old Deus Brut des Flandres with prime rib. Dayyyum gurrl.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 25, 2016, 09:30:44 pm
Watching Titanic and drinking Lagunitas Dark Swan, an 8.7% draft-only wild ale. It's like drinking sour/hoppy alcohol grape juice.


An experimentally hopped sour ale fermented with dark red wine grapes Observers of yestercentury once doubted the existence of the Dark Swan, stating the fair-feathered fowl was the only color of its kind. Explorers eventually upended that theory, shocking the world and shining light on the Dark. This beer might just do the same. It?s a sour ale fermented with dark red wine grapes, giving it its uniquely deep and rich purple hue. Then it received the signature Lagunitas treatment with a healthy dose of experimental dry hops. This might just shock your taste buds!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 25, 2016, 09:34:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 21, 2016, 10:00:10 am
Made a trip to Veil yesterday to stock up on beers for the holidays... this one hits it out of the park, basically drinking a raspberry smoovie gose. Never Never Again Again by Veil...

They are quickly becoming my favorite brewery other than possibly Trillium for hoppy beverages. Finished the evening off at Answer with a few delicious Andalls and a killer chicken bowl. I unfortunately didn't get the invite to sleep on Julian's couch.



Hey Yada, how long did you have to stand in line at the Veil to get cans? What time did you arrive? What's the best strategy? Was there good take home stuff left after the initial deluge of people?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 28, 2016, 10:32:09 pm
Aslin leaving Herndon

Cheers to a new year!

As the new year is quickly approaching, we wanted to let you know that Aslin Beer Co. will be leaving the Town of Herndon in 2017. This was not an easy decision to make but it's necessary in order to grow our business and fulfill our mission to create amazing beer and a great place to enjoy it.

We have not yet decided on our new location but are in the process of scoping out options and hope to confirm our new spot soon.

Until our new location is up and running, we will continue to operate as To-Go only to make our beer more easily accessible to more people. Beer will be limited through the next two weeks, but as of the second week of January it will released on a weekly basis. We will updated operating hours through the next few weeks.

2017 Mug Club members - you will be receiving a separate email shortly regarding how this affects your membership.

For this week, starting December 28, we will be making announcements each day for releases and hours.

From everyone at Aslin Beer Co. - thank you for your continued support. Feel free to stop by and chat or shoot us an email if you have any questions.

Cheers,
Andrew, Kai, & Richard
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 29, 2016, 11:41:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 28, 2016, 10:32:09 pm
Aslin leaving Herndon

Dang...wish they'd just take over New District's space
Please don't move out to loudoun co and stay on the bike trail at least
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 29, 2016, 12:47:56 pm
Please DO NOT move further from the beltway. It's already a haul. Not as bad as ocelot, but bad enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 29, 2016, 12:58:25 pm
its kind of sucky to leave where you made your rep.. what is so bad about Herndon? I mean I don't like it but pretty much all of Northern Virginia is like it...they make it sound like a business decision
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 29, 2016, 01:47:58 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 29, 2016, 12:58:25 pm
its kind of sucky to leave where you made your rep.. what is so bad about Herndon? I mean I don't like it but pretty much all of Northern Virginia is like it...they make it sound like a business decision
location was horrible (not so much in herndon)
in the middle of a business park and looked like the entrance to a locker room at a highschool

Now that they are so popular, I'm sure they can get loans/investors to get a real nice space

Shows how good their beers were, that people kept going to venue that sucked balls
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 29, 2016, 02:33:08 pm
Quote from: hutch on December 29, 2016, 12:58:25 pm
its kind of sucky to leave where you made your rep.. what is so bad about Herndon? I mean I don't like it but pretty much all of Northern Virginia is like it...they make it sound like a business decision

Apparently the fire marshal cracked down on them. Some kind of Town of Herndon code where they can't have more customers on the place than they have actual seats. Not sure why they're treating a tap room as if it's a restaurant, since they don't serve food. Wouldn't be a problem if they were only interested in being a to-go beer destination (apparently ala Treehouse and Trillium when they first started out), but they want to have the tap room as well. Do they not have bars in Herndon?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 29, 2016, 04:31:07 pm
So beer nerds...top beers you had 2016?

actually longer than I thought, but I had some good beers this year
(love untapped for recording my alcohol abuse and wallet draining)

Aslin - Stellar Parallax
Aslin - Party of One: Mike
Prairie - Bomb!
Prairie - Funky Gold Mosaic
The Veil - Master Shredder
Big Papi - Commonwealth
Strangeways - Wake Me up before you gose (liked this before GM died)
Maui - Coconut Hiwa Porter
Wicked Weed - Freak Of Nature
Stillwater - On Fleek
Oclolet - See the Light
Ocloet - Tomorrow
Old Ox - The Oxorcist II
Boulavard - The Calling
Bluejacket - Mexican Radio
Adroit - Imagination Atrophy
Evil Genius - I'll Have what she's having
Victory - Kirsch Gose
Wynwood - Grand Pop's Imperial Porter (hanging with Pop when having it!)
J Wakefield - DFPF
J WakeField - La Nada
Odd Breed - Dry Hopped Farmhouse Ale
Cigar City -  Hunahpu Imperial Stout 2016
Evil Twin - Imperial Biscotti Break
Wardecca - 3-2-1 Gose
Other Half - Rockstar farmer
The Church Brew Works - Crack of the Bat Caramel Porter
Caboose - Vanilla Hobo Stout
Right Proper - Diamonds Fur Coat, Champagne
Goose - BCBS 2016
Cigar City - Jai Alia (Fresh on tap in the FL)
Sixpoint -Hi Res
RockBottom - Atom Smasher (2011)


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 29, 2016, 05:09:08 pm
I had some great beers this year too. I can't really begin to remember them all!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 29, 2016, 05:51:08 pm
Hard to pick the very best. Best of the beers I had for the first time would probably include these:

Oclolet - See the Light
The Veil - Lord Shredder
Trillium - Stillings Street
RaR - Grapefruit Nectar
Alchemist - Focal Banger
Ocelot - Planets Align
Aslin - Stellar Parallax
Aslin - Small Town in Ontario
Lagunitas - Born Yesterday
Founders - Backwards Bastard
Foam - Pavement
SingleCut - Softly Spoken Magic Spells
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 29, 2016, 06:38:16 pm
its tough....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 29, 2016, 06:47:24 pm
It sounds like someone needs to organize 9:30 Forum Bottleshare Group V.2.0.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 30, 2016, 12:33:27 pm
Quote from: sidehatch 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on December 29, 2016, 04:31:07 pm
So beer nerds...top beers you had 2016?

actually longer than I thought, but I had some good beers this year
(love untapped for recording my alcohol abuse and wallet draining)

Aslin - Stellar Parallax
Aslin - Party of One: Mike
Prairie - Bomb!
Prairie - Funky Gold Mosaic
The Veil - Master Shredder
Big Papi - Commonwealth
Strangeways - Wake Me up before you gose (liked this before GM died)
Maui - Coconut Hiwa Porter
Wicked Weed - Freak Of Nature
Stillwater - On Fleek
Oclolet - See the Light
Ocloet - Tomorrow
Old Ox - The Oxorcist II
Boulavard - The Calling
Bluejacket - Mexican Radio
Adroit - Imagination Atrophy
Evil Genius - I'll Have what she's having
Victory - Kirsch Gose
Wynwood - Grand Pop's Imperial Porter (hanging with Pop when having it!)
J Wakefield - DFPF
J WakeField - La Nada
Odd Breed - Dry Hopped Farmhouse Ale
Cigar City -  Hunahpu Imperial Stout 2016
Evil Twin - Imperial Biscotti Break
Wardecca - 3-2-1 Gose
Other Half - Rockstar farmer
The Church Brew Works - Crack of the Bat Caramel Porter
Caboose - Vanilla Hobo Stout
Right Proper - Diamonds Fur Coat, Champagne
Goose - BCBS 2016
Cigar City - Jai Alia (Fresh on tap in the FL)
Sixpoint -Hi Res
RockBottom - Atom Smasher (2011)




This looks like a killsally curated top list... I'd probably have to break beers down to a top 10 by style. I'll report back in the new year!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 30, 2016, 08:22:23 pm
The search for a better cheap beer continues over here..

Boatswain Double IPA Twin Screw Steamer 8.4% abv.. .$4.99 for a six pack at Trader Joes...


I think the first one gave me a pounding headache.. I'll report back after I've had a few more (if they don't kill me)...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2017, 10:40:42 am
Without further ado...

Top 30 beers that I tried for the first time in 2016 in no particular order
Hops
1.   Tree House (Green, Julius, JJJulius, Juice Machine, Haze, Alter Ego)
2.   Trillium (too many to name)
3.   Veil (too many to name)
4.   Aslin (too many to name)
5.   Sloop - Citra Bomb
6.   Even Mo Mofo - Sand City Brewing Co
7.   General Braddock's IPA - Brew Gentlemen
8.   Peach Punch (You In the Eye) - Block 15 Brewing Company
9.   Ghost In The Machine - Parish Brewing Co.

Sours
1.   De Garde ? Too many to name
2.   Oude Geuze (2015)
3.   Framboise de Amorosa - The Lost Abbey
4.   Never Never Again Again - The Veil Brewing Co.
5.   Alexander (2016) - Brouwerij Rodenbach
6.   Tart Cherry Petite Sour - Crooked Stave
7.   Farm To Face (2016) - Allagash Brewing Company
8.   Grand Cru Bruocsella Lambic Bio (2011) - Brasserie Cantillon
9.   Central Valley Breakfast Sour - High Water Brewing
10.   Garçon de Ferme - Wicked Weed Brewing
11.   Cask Strawberry (Batch 1) - Sante Adairius Rustic Ales
12.   Saint Lamvinus (2014) - Brasserie Cantillon
13.   Snozzberry - Green Man Brewery (NC)
14.   Map of the Sun (Batch 2) - The Rare Barrel
15.   Raspberry Soak - Trillium Brewing Company
16.   Ad Idem - The Lost Abbey/Wicked Weed

Stouts
1.   Kelci Gryphon(Andall) by The Answer at The Answer Brewpub
2.   Double Barrel Hunahpu's by Cigar City Brewing
3.   Rare Scooop by Cycle Brewing Company
4.   Cassian Sunset (2016) by Central Waters Brewing Company
5.   Expedition Stout (Bourbon Barrel Aged) by Bell's Brewery
 
 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 11:11:28 am
That's a nice list Yada, but have you tried this one?

Boatswain Double IPA Twin Screw Steamer 8.4% abv



It gets a 64(poor) on Beer Advocate, but you can't really trust Beer Advocate, can you? Just change one letter and "poor" becomes "pour!"


originally posted by yada:

Without further ado...

Top 30 beers that I tried for the first time in 2016 in no particular order
 
Hops
1.   Tree House (Green, Julius, JJJulius, Juice Machine, Haze, Alter Ego)
2.   Trillium (too many to name)
3.   Veil (too many to name)
4.   Aslin (too many to name)
5.   Sloop - Citra Bomb
6.   Even Mo Mofo - Sand City Brewing Co
7.   General Braddock's IPA - Brew Gentlemen
8.   Peach Punch (You In the Eye) - Block 15 Brewing Company
9.   Ghost In The Machine - Parish Brewing Co.

Sours
1.   De Garde ? Too many to name
2.   Oude Geuze (2015)
3.   Framboise de Amorosa - The Lost Abbey
4.   Never Never Again Again - The Veil Brewing Co.
5.   Alexander (2016) - Brouwerij Rodenbach
6.   Tart Cherry Petite Sour - Crooked Stave
7.   Farm To Face (2016) - Allagash Brewing Company
8.   Grand Cru Bruocsella Lambic Bio (2011) - Brasserie Cantillon
9.   Central Valley Breakfast Sour - High Water Brewing
10.   Garçon de Ferme - Wicked Weed Brewing
11.   Cask Strawberry (Batch 1) - Sante Adairius Rustic Ales
12.   Saint Lamvinus (2014) - Brasserie Cantillon
13.   Snozzberry - Green Man Brewery (NC)
14.   Map of the Sun (Batch 2) - The Rare Barrel
15.   Raspberry Soak - Trillium Brewing Company
16.   Ad Idem - The Lost Abbey/Wicked Weed

Stouts
1.   Kelci Gryphon(Andall) by The Answer at The Answer Brewpub
2.   Double Barrel Hunahpu's by Cigar City Brewing
3.   Rare Scooop by Cycle Brewing Company
4.   Cassian Sunset (2016) by Central Waters Brewing Company
5.   Expedition Stout (Bourbon Barrel Aged) by Bell's Brewery
 
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2017, 11:18:02 am
I have not tried that beer... Am I missing something? Have you tried it? Does it live up to the poor?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 04, 2017, 11:25:00 am
My best beers of the year, in no particular order, would be:

AleSmith Speedway Stout Vietnamese Coffee
AleSmith Speedway Stout Hawaiian
Aslin Master of Karate
Aslin Double Orange Starfish
Aslin Johann the Mango Thief
Brouwerij Rodenbach Alexander
Bruery Mocha Wednesday
Burlington Beer Co Strange Apparition
Cigar City Double Barrel Hunahpu's
de Garde Beaucoup Berry Bu
Dugges/Stillwater Tropic Punch
Equilibirum Photon
Fiddlehead Second Fiddle
Fremont Bourbon Barrel Aged Dark Star Spice Wars '14
Goose Island BCBS Rare '15
Goose Island Gillian
Jackie O's Bourbon Barrel Oil of Aphrodite
Lost Abbey Vertias 016
Lost Abbey Track #10 Bat Out of Hell
Lost Abbey Ad Idem
Ocelot Talking Backwards
Oskar Blues Barrel Aged Ten FIDY
Prohibition Pig Bantam
Rare Barrel Forces Unseen
Treehouse Green
Treehouse Haze
Treehouse Double Shot
Trillium Vicinity
Trillium DDH Scaled
Trillium Scaled Up
Trillium Heavy Mettle
Trillium Cutting Tiles
Trillium DDH Fort Point
Veil We Ded Mon
Wicked Weed Old Fashioned
Wicked Weed Cherry Go Lightly
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 11:29:16 am
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 11:18:02 am
I have not tried that beer... Am I missing something? Have you tried it? Does it live up to the poor?

I have not had the pleasure, but I'm still hoping Hutch will give his more detailed review:


Htuch:
I think the first one gave me a pounding headache.. I'll report back after I've had a few more (if they don't kill me)...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2017, 11:38:40 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 11:29:16 am
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 11:18:02 am
I have not tried that beer... Am I missing something? Have you tried it? Does it live up to the poor?

I have not had the pleasure, but I'm still hoping Hutch will give his more detailed review:


Htuch:
I think the first one gave me a pounding headache.. I'll report back after I've had a few more (if they don't kill me)...

hahah... missed hutch's post!! hahaha
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 04, 2017, 11:46:57 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on January 04, 2017, 11:25:00 am
My best beers of the year, in no particular order, would be:

AleSmith Speedway Stout Vietnamese Coffee
AleSmith Speedway Stout Hawaiian
Aslin Master of Karate
Aslin Double Orange Starfish
Aslin Johann the Mango Thief
Brouwerij Rodenbach Alexander
Bruery Mocha Wednesday
Burlington Beer Co Strange Apparition
Cigar City Double Barrel Hunahpu's
de Garde Beaucoup Berry Bu
Dugges/Stillwater Tropic Punch
Equilibirum Photon
Fiddlehead Second Fiddle
Fremont Bourbon Barrel Aged Dark Star Spice Wars '14
Goose Island BCBS Rare '15
Goose Island Gillian
Jackie O's Bourbon Barrel Oil of Aphrodite
Lost Abbey Vertias 016
Lost Abbey Track #10 Bat Out of Hell
Lost Abbey Ad Idem
Ocelot Talking Backwards
Oskar Blues Barrel Aged Ten FIDY
Prohibition Pig Bantam
Rare Barrel Forces Unseen
Treehouse Green
Treehouse Haze
Treehouse Double Shot
Trillium Vicinity
Trillium DDH Scaled
Trillium Scaled Up
Trillium Heavy Mettle
Trillium Cutting Tiles
Trillium DDH Fort Point
Veil We Ded Mon
Wicked Weed Old Fashioned
Wicked Weed Cherry Go Lightly

This seems to be in alphabetical order.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 04, 2017, 11:52:54 am
Quote from: excontradiction on January 04, 2017, 11:46:57 am

This seems to be in alphabetical order.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 04, 2017, 01:17:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 10:40:42 am
2.   Oude Geuze (2015)

you're gonna hafta be more specific. many lambic makers (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/14/) have an "oude gueuze"...

viewed another way: oude gueuze is a style, not a brand ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 04, 2017, 01:23:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 11:29:16 am
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 11:18:02 am
I have not tried that beer... Am I missing something? Have you tried it? Does it live up to the poor?

I have not had the pleasure, but I'm still hoping Hutch will give his more detailed review:


Htuch:
I think the first one gave me a pounding headache.. I'll report back after I've had a few more (if they don't kill me)...

Trader Joe's has some really good value beers.  for a while their house "mission street" IPA was made by firestone walker (now by Uinta, i believe).  they often have decently-priced belgians and it's consistently the cheapest place to get Hardywood.

however, the entire Boatswain line should be avoided.  nothing with that name on it is worth drinking, even at that price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 04, 2017, 01:42:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 04, 2017, 01:23:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 11:29:16 am
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 11:18:02 am
I have not tried that beer... Am I missing something? Have you tried it? Does it live up to the poor?

I have not had the pleasure, but I'm still hoping Hutch will give his more detailed review:


Htuch:
I think the first one gave me a pounding headache.. I'll report back after I've had a few more (if they don't kill me)...

Trader Joe's has some really good value beers.  for a while their house "mission street" IPA was made by firestone walker (now by Uinta, i believe).  they often have decently-priced belgians and it's consistently the cheapest place to get Hardywood.

however, the entire Boatswain line should be avoided.  nothing with that name on it is worth drinking, even at that price.

yeah.. they were horrible.. i took six to a house party and dropped them off anonymously under a table...along with some miller lite...

new year..but the quest continues
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2017, 02:22:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 04, 2017, 01:17:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 10:40:42 am
2.   Oude Geuze (2015)

you're gonna hafta be more specific. many lambic makers (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/14/) have an "oude gueuze"...

viewed another way: oude gueuze is a style, not a brand ;D

come on man!

Drie Fonteinen
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 03:11:39 pm
Quote from: hutch on January 04, 2017, 01:42:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 04, 2017, 01:23:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 11:29:16 am
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 11:18:02 am
I have not tried that beer... Am I missing something? Have you tried it? Does it live up to the poor?

I have not had the pleasure, but I'm still hoping Hutch will give his more detailed review:


Htuch:
I think the first one gave me a pounding headache.. I'll report back after I've had a few more (if they don't kill me)...

Trader Joe's has some really good value beers.  for a while their house "mission street" IPA was made by firestone walker (now by Uinta, i believe).  they often have decently-priced belgians and it's consistently the cheapest place to get Hardywood.

however, the entire Boatswain line should be avoided.  nothing with that name on it is worth drinking, even at that price.

yeah.. they were horrible.. i took six to a house party and dropped them off anonymously under a table...along with some miller lite...

new year..but the quest continues

We had a New Year's Eve party where we asked guests to bring their "favorite Belgian ale". That netted me a six pack of Blue Moon and a 12 pack of Stella (not an ale!)....all of which went home with my brother...the Blue Moon for my mom and the Stella for my sister-in-law. I did learn that I like Stella more than Blue Moon, though I'd be fine with never drinking either ever again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2017, 05:22:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 03:11:39 pm
Quote from: hutch on January 04, 2017, 01:42:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 04, 2017, 01:23:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 11:29:16 am
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 11:18:02 am
I have not tried that beer... Am I missing something? Have you tried it? Does it live up to the poor?

I have not had the pleasure, but I'm still hoping Hutch will give his more detailed review:


Htuch:
I think the first one gave me a pounding headache.. I'll report back after I've had a few more (if they don't kill me)...

Trader Joe's has some really good value beers.  for a while their house "mission street" IPA was made by firestone walker (now by Uinta, i believe).  they often have decently-priced belgians and it's consistently the cheapest place to get Hardywood.

however, the entire Boatswain line should be avoided.  nothing with that name on it is worth drinking, even at that price.

yeah.. they were horrible.. i took six to a house party and dropped them off anonymously under a table...along with some miller lite...

new year..but the quest continues

We had a New Year's Eve party where we asked guests to bring their "favorite Belgian ale". That netted me a six pack of Blue Moon and a 12 pack of Stella (not an ale!)....all of which went home with my brother...the Blue Moon for my mom and the Stella for my sister-in-law. I did learn that I like Stella more than Blue Moon, though I'd be fine with never drinking either ever again.

I find Stella to be very drinkable... to be honest, if someone asked me to bring my favorite Belgian Ale to a party, I'd have no idea where to begin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 05:35:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 05:22:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 03:11:39 pm
Quote from: hutch on January 04, 2017, 01:42:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 04, 2017, 01:23:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 11:29:16 am
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2017, 11:18:02 am
I have not tried that beer... Am I missing something? Have you tried it? Does it live up to the poor?

I have not had the pleasure, but I'm still hoping Hutch will give his more detailed review:


Htuch:
I think the first one gave me a pounding headache.. I'll report back after I've had a few more (if they don't kill me)...

Trader Joe's has some really good value beers.  for a while their house "mission street" IPA was made by firestone walker (now by Uinta, i believe).  they often have decently-priced belgians and it's consistently the cheapest place to get Hardywood.

however, the entire Boatswain line should be avoided.  nothing with that name on it is worth drinking, even at that price.

yeah.. they were horrible.. i took six to a house party and dropped them off anonymously under a table...along with some miller lite...

new year..but the quest continues

We had a New Year's Eve party where we asked guests to bring their "favorite Belgian ale". That netted me a six pack of Blue Moon and a 12 pack of Stella (not an ale!)....all of which went home with my brother...the Blue Moon for my mom and the Stella for my sister-in-law. I did learn that I like Stella more than Blue Moon, though I'd be fine with never drinking either ever again.

I find Stella to be very drinkable... to be honest, if someone asked me to bring my favorite Belgian Ale to a party, I'd have no idea where to begin.

"Drinkable" is exactly the word my sister-in-law used to describe Stella. I agree. Though if I were going to drink a lager, I'd choose Devil's Backbone over Stella 10 times out of 10.

It wasn't a bottle share, so it wasn't a contest to bring anything rare, but Stella and Blue Moon? That's not even making an effort!

If I had no idea, I'd go to Total Wine or Whole Foods and grab a hodgepodge of the usual suspects...stuff by St. Bernardus, Rochefort, Rodenbach, Duvel, maybe even Leffe or Hoegarden (if I were in a budget mood) or perhaps the American versions (Ommegang, Allagash, New Belgium, etc).

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2017, 05:43:36 pm
lol


(http://i.imgur.com/CXlzyYH.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 05:45:43 pm
=q
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on January 04, 2017, 06:07:56 pm
http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/delirium_cafe_to_locate_its_first_u.s._location_in_leesburg432
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2017, 06:14:40 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on January 04, 2017, 06:07:56 pm
http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/delirium_cafe_to_locate_its_first_u.s._location_in_leesburg432

**stocks up on belgian's for space's party**
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 05, 2017, 11:56:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 05:35:33 pm
It wasn't a bottle share, so it wasn't a contest to bring anything rare, but Stella and Blue Moon? That's not even making an effort!

these are the same people who, if asked to bring cheese to a party, would show up with kraft singles and velveeta.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 05, 2017, 12:09:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 05, 2017, 11:56:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 04, 2017, 05:35:33 pm
It wasn't a bottle share, so it wasn't a contest to bring anything rare, but Stella and Blue Moon? That's not even making an effort!

these are the same people who, if asked to bring cheese to a party, would show up with kraft singles and velveeta.
I had a good friend in college who did that
these girls were always throwing  a "wine and cheese party" and he showed up with MadDog 20/20 and Cheeze Wiz
and they were always gone by the end of the night
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 05, 2017, 12:18:08 pm
Big long article on Aslin here. They get into their current state of affairs toward the end of the article.

https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/tap-takeover-aslin-beer-company
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 05, 2017, 12:48:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 05, 2017, 12:18:08 pm
Big long article on Aslin here. They get into their current state of affairs toward the end of the article.

https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/tap-takeover-aslin-beer-company

I noticed yesterday on social media they were doing "upgrades" at their current location... seems like a waste of time and energy to do upgrades only to move in the very near future.

note: I have not read that article above just yet, so maybe the reasoning is mentioned in there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 05, 2017, 02:45:55 pm
and another update right now... i don't get it.

Aslin Beer Company -

Reminder, we will be closed #today for renovations and upgrades. Keep an eye on social media for #tomorrow?s info.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 05, 2017, 02:48:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 05, 2017, 02:45:55 pm
and another update right now... i don't get it.

Aslin Beer Company -

Reminder, we will be closed #today for renovations and upgrades. Keep an eye on social media for #tomorrow?s info.

Seems the tune changes daily. I think I'm done with Aslin until they either start canning decently priced four or six packs, and/or have a nicer taproom to hang out in and drink a pint.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 05, 2017, 03:29:48 pm
My only experience with Aslin was their clusterf*ck of a bottle release a few weeks ago. Given how much of a schlep it is from my house, I'm waiting until they actually figure out wtf they're doing till I head back down there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 06, 2017, 11:43:59 am
'This Friday (today), Jailbreak will serve up $5 pints of its latest brew, Ephemeral Volume I. This New England-inspired IPA boasts a medley of tropical fruit, peach, tangerine, and subtle hints of dark pine that is sure to be the winter favorite of hoppy beer lovers.'
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 06, 2017, 05:22:04 pm
 The beer tastings and parties you should check out in January  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2017/01/06/the-beer-tastings-and-parties-you-should-check-out-in-january/?hpid=hp_local-news_beer-1230pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f12694df0b30)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2017, 05:52:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 05, 2017, 02:48:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 05, 2017, 02:45:55 pm
and another update right now... i don't get it.

Aslin Beer Company -

Reminder, we will be closed #today for renovations and upgrades. Keep an eye on social media for #tomorrow?s info.

Seems the tune changes daily. I think I'm done with Aslin until they either start canning decently priced four or six packs, and/or have a nicer taproom to hang out in and drink a pint.

here's the best story that i've found on the Aslin move: http://www.dcbeer.com/news/aslin-announces-move-herndon-installs-new-brewhouse.  sounds like the city told them one thing, but the fire marshall has different ideas - and his rules override the city's. 

their production should be increased by now thanks to a new brewhouse, so Space: soon it should be easier to get their stuff?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on January 06, 2017, 09:53:44 pm
Dear . . . God

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/keurig-budweiser-team-up-for-in-home-booze-machine/ar-BBxYN19?li=AA4Zjn&ocid=spartandhp
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 07, 2017, 10:47:14 am
Nice.   I read about that this morning. Interesting concept. Not at all interested in a machine that dispenses their products, tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 07, 2017, 02:26:50 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on January 06, 2017, 09:53:44 pm
Dear . . . God

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/keurig-budweiser-team-up-for-in-home-booze-machine/ar-BBxYN19?li=AA4Zjn&ocid=spartandhp

absolutely awful.  there is no way you can concentrate & dry beer, then reconstitute it; or worse yet engineer it chemically from scratch, and have it taste good.  then again they're targeting AB InBev beer drinkers who are used to drinking tasteless beer, so who knows maybe this will work...

more: http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/06/news/companies/keurig-anheuser-busch-inbev-beer-brewer/index.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 07, 2017, 06:11:26 pm
Well that was quick. I blinked and missed them.

https://www.arlnow.com/2017/01/06/just-in-sehkraft-brewing-to-close/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 08, 2017, 11:22:28 pm
oh snap...that didn't last long
the two original's I had were meh, not horrible
but they did have the nicest growler
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 09, 2017, 10:21:48 pm
Well that sucks. One of my favorites.

https://www.facebook.com/firestone.walker/

From their Facebook page:

Sucaba is taking a "Sucabbatical" this year (see what we did there?!) so we will not be releasing a 2017 vintage. Gasp! But fear not, all FW locations currently have the 2016 vintage available so come by & stock up on this English barleywine while it lasts.

PS New vintage beer coming Feb. 4th! More details coming soon... maybe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on January 09, 2017, 10:54:13 pm
Duveled
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 10, 2017, 12:33:26 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on January 09, 2017, 10:54:13 pm
Duveled

SWEET.  enjoy. 

it's one of my all-time favs.  for about 8 months i flew to dallas every week for work.  always stayed in the same marriott.  for beer they had crap, crap light, crap ultra... and duvel.  drank the hell outta that golden belgian elixir, and brought home every bottle in my luggage - they are made of thick glass so perfect for bottling highly carbonated homebrew.  i still have 80-100 of those bottles.  the end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 10, 2017, 10:21:51 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on January 09, 2017, 10:54:13 pm
Duveled

I don't have 100 empty Duvel bottles but I'm going to guess this was some sort of comment on Duvel owning Firestone Walker???
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on January 10, 2017, 10:53:13 am
Some sort.   Not sure What kind of sort  .  . . but some.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 13, 2017, 05:09:54 pm
the veil was named in "Class of 2016: 34 of the Best New Breweries in the US"
https://www.beeradvocate.com/mag/14961/class-of-2016-34-of-the-best-new-breweries-in-the-us/ (scroll to "southeast" section).

didn't know they did spontaneous fermentation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 13, 2017, 10:44:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 13, 2017, 05:09:54 pm
the veil was named in "Class of 2016: 34 of the Best New Breweries in the US"
https://www.beeradvocate.com/mag/14961/class-of-2016-34-of-the-best-new-breweries-in-the-us/ (scroll to "southeast" section).

didn't know they did spontaneous fermentation.

I think that's in the works with nothing released yet. I could be wrong.

in addition to working at the Alchemist and Hill Farmstead, the brewer also interned at Cantillon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2017, 06:03:46 pm
so The Virginia Beer Company
is it all that?
can't recall being wow'ed by one of their offerings
but sounds like the action is at the brewery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 15, 2017, 06:38:13 pm
Rumors of Toppling Goliath hitting town next weekend, but I'll be out of town (grabbing NYC beer).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on January 22, 2017, 07:48:39 pm
two things

1.  http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/sierra-nevada-brewery-issues-36-state-recall-of-select-beers/ar-AAm7GDR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

2.  I broke down and had some beer this weekend.  filled a growler for a poker game to share with my friends and I had a glass or two.  it was tasty incredible but expensive.  Cascade  The Vine.  I still don't really miss it but it was nice that I picked a winner for my re shot back at it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on January 23, 2017, 05:12:32 am
I tried Midnight Marauder from Union Craft. Pretty good dark sour. Fans of the Clutch beer should take note.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 23, 2017, 10:16:12 am
We went to NYC this past weekend. In addition to seeing some cool museums and some old friends, we learned that NYC makes some pretty good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 23, 2017, 11:35:46 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 23, 2017, 10:16:12 am
we learned that NYC makes some pretty good beer.

... such as?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 23, 2017, 01:30:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 23, 2017, 11:35:46 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 23, 2017, 10:16:12 am
we learned that NYC makes some pretty good beer.

... such as?

Imma go on a limb and say Other Half, Single Cut, LIC, and Sand City.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 23, 2017, 01:45:19 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on January 22, 2017, 07:48:39 pm
two things

1.  http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/sierra-nevada-brewery-issues-36-state-recall-of-select-beers/ar-AAm7GDR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

2.  I broke down and had some beer this weekend.  filled a growler for a poker game to share with my friends and I had a glass or two.  it was tasty incredible but expensive.  Cascade  The Vine.  I still don't really miss it but it was nice that I picked a winner for my re shot back at it.

Blessings walky.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 23, 2017, 02:13:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 23, 2017, 01:30:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 23, 2017, 11:35:46 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 23, 2017, 10:16:12 am
we learned that NYC makes some pretty good beer.

... such as?

Imma go on a limb and say Other Half, Single Cut, LIC, and Sand City.

Not a bad guess but you do realize Sand City is 48 miles away from Other Half (which was actually close to our hotel), right?

Friday was Queens day, we hit the Museum of the Moving Image, free on Inauguration Day. Lot of cool movie and tv stuff, as well as some good interactive exhibits for the kids (and adults). Beer stops were Singlecut and LIC. Singlecut's hoppy beers were fantastic (I think DC beer geeks already know this as they've been shpping here for a while). Their sours were so-so. Their taproom was cool, very uncrowded at 5 on a Friday. Large collection of vintage LP's, they spun Morrissey and the Beatles, and we escaped before the Billy Joel that was on deck got played. Meat-centric menu, we grabbed a pretzel.  We grabbed some Thai takeout and took it to LIC. Not sure if it was an off night, but they IPA's they has on draft weren't that good (at least compared to SingleCut!) And the music sucked. They were releasing three double IPA's the next day, including a collab with Sand City. That was probably the day to be there, but we were done with Queens at that point.

Saturday was Brooklyn day, we met two separate friends at two separate locations, and went skating at Prospect Park. Beerwise, we hit Other Half. Very small, very industrial, tiny taproom across from a McDonald's and adjacent to an auto garage. Very cool (dare I say hipster) vibe, with music by Charles Bradley and someone else of that ilk I'm forgetting). Tried three different IPA's...two east coast style, one west coast style, all fantastic. We also tried to go to Threes Brewing, but in spite of it being the largest place we went to, was stacked with bros at 3pm on a Saturday, so we just walked out. WAs also interested in Interboro and Greenpoint, but we had not plans to be near Williamsburg/Greenpoint.

Sunday we went to the Met and didn't drink a beer until we got home, where we split a Veil beer.

So big thumbs up for SingleCut and Other Half, LIC was ok, probably was on off night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on January 23, 2017, 02:31:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 23, 2017, 01:45:19 pm
Quote from: walkie,talkie on January 22, 2017, 07:48:39 pm
two things

1.  http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/sierra-nevada-brewery-issues-36-state-recall-of-select-beers/ar-AAm7GDR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

2.  I broke down and had some beer this weekend.  filled a growler for a poker game to share with my friends and I had a glass or two.  it was tasty incredible but expensive.  Cascade  The Vine.  I still don't really miss it but it was nice that I picked a winner for my re shot back at it.

Blessings walky.

I thought of you as I swallowed . . . the first sip.  And I lost at poker.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 23, 2017, 09:22:08 pm
Oh, I forgot to add we had a Hill Farmstead Galaxy APA on draft in NYC too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 24, 2017, 10:13:54 am
Spent last weekend in Clearwater Beach and literally drank Jai Alai the entire time. The convenience store next to our hotel actually carried Toppling Goliath and cans of Pseudo Sue which made me do a double take. Then I realized they were canned back in early November and was like nope.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 24, 2017, 11:35:13 am
Got reacquainted with some Wings of Armageddon on draft recently.  Delicious!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 25, 2017, 02:34:39 pm
7th Annual Barleywine Festival
February 25 & 26 - Mad Fox Brewpub, Falls Church
Join us for the Mid-Atlantic's largest Barleywine Event! Sample more than 30 special and limited edition barleywines from around the region and across the country.
More information coming soon!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 25, 2017, 02:37:52 pm
Quote from: Bagley on January 25, 2017, 02:34:39 pm
7th Annual Barleywine Festival
February 25 & 26 - Mad Fox Brewpub, Falls Church
Join us for the Mid-Atlantic's largest Barleywine Event! Sample more than 30 special and limited edition barleywines from around the region and across the country.
More information coming soon!



Meh. Been twice and not impressed by the selection. Good beer no doubt, but. Nothing rare. Nothing out of market. Nothing you couldn't find on the shelf at Total Wine. Food not that great either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2017, 03:23:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 25, 2017, 02:37:52 pm
Quote from: Bagley on January 25, 2017, 02:34:39 pm
7th Annual Barleywine Festival
February 25 & 26 - Mad Fox Brewpub, Falls Church
Join us for the Mid-Atlantic's largest Barleywine Event! Sample more than 30 special and limited edition barleywines from around the region and across the country.
More information coming soon!



Meh. Been twice and not impressed by the selection. Good beer no doubt, but. Nothing rare. Nothing out of market. Nothing you couldn't find on the shelf at Total Wine. Food not that great either.

but at total wine, you have to buy the whole bottle, can't get a small pour.  are you going to walk out with 20 bottles of barleywine so you can taste each one?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 25, 2017, 04:10:19 pm
ok, bring on the haters-  The Hopslam is out in Maryland
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 25, 2017, 05:32:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 25, 2017, 03:23:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 25, 2017, 02:37:52 pm
Quote from: Bagley on January 25, 2017, 02:34:39 pm
7th Annual Barleywine Festival
February 25 & 26 - Mad Fox Brewpub, Falls Church
Join us for the Mid-Atlantic's largest Barleywine Event! Sample more than 30 special and limited edition barleywines from around the region and across the country.
More information coming soon!



Meh. Been twice and not impressed by the selection. Good beer no doubt, but. Nothing rare. Nothing out of market. Nothing you couldn't find on the shelf at Total Wine. Food not that great either.

but at total wine, you have to buy the whole bottle, can't get a small pour.  are you going to walk out with 20 bottles of barleywine so you can taste each one?

I don't live close enough to Mad Fox to try 20 barleywines, either.

I guess for someone new to barleywines, this would be a great event (with the caveats that were already stated). We went last year (we actually just happened to be in the area so figured what the hell) and struggled to find stuff we hasn't already tried.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on January 25, 2017, 06:55:52 pm
Hopslam is also at my local beer shop in Winchester Virginia. I bought a six-pack just because. I have another poker game coming up soon and I'm sure my friends will be delighte :-\d that I share such excellent beer with them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 25, 2017, 07:40:11 pm
I love the Mad Fox.. I think the food is very yummy too....

the service can be spotty so make sure you start screaming
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 26, 2017, 10:21:38 am
Quote from: hutch on January 25, 2017, 07:40:11 pm
I love the Mad Fox.. I think the food is very yummy too....

the service can be spotty so make sure you start screaming

Orange Whip is delicious, one of the best local IPAs around IMHO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 28, 2017, 07:34:49 pm
Will this beer the largest clusterfuck in Richmond beer history?


Saturday February 11th will be our second Tasting Room Remix. This time we are honored to host our good friends TRILLIUM!!!

Starting at 12pm when we open doors, we will be pouring 9 beers on draft from Trillium and some very special beers from us. We will announce the draft list from both breweries as we get closer. The Trillium team will be around hanging out all day too, so make sure you say sup.

For this special occasion, we decided to bring back the boiz from Maine at The High Roller Lobster Co to murder us with their inventive and classic lobster/seafood creations. They are bringing twice as much Lobster as last time, so don't freak out.

Like last Tasting Room Remix, we will have DJ sets all day from BillyCrystalfingers, Chenchilla, DJ El Capone, DJ Ant Boogz, and DJ Mom(Baxter from High Roller). We will also be hosting our first ever live music performance. Our friend and local hip-hop artist Chance Fischer will be turning things up to finish out the night.

It's going to be straight lit! So come through and try some rad beers from Trillium on draft and some cool limited beers from us Veilians.

Open 12pm-12am for this day. No cover. No tickets. Just awesome beer, food, and jamz all dang day!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 28, 2017, 08:24:19 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on January 26, 2017, 10:21:38 am
Quote from: hutch on January 25, 2017, 07:40:11 pm
I love the Mad Fox.. I think the food is very yummy too....

the service can be spotty so make sure you start screaming

Orange Whip is delicious, one of the best local IPAs around IMHO.

Have you had rar's Pulp?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 30, 2017, 01:27:04 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on January 28, 2017, 08:24:19 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on January 26, 2017, 10:21:38 am
Quote from: hutch on January 25, 2017, 07:40:11 pm
I love the Mad Fox.. I think the food is very yummy too....

the service can be spotty so make sure you start screaming

Orange Whip is delicious, one of the best local IPAs around IMHO.

Have you had rar's Pulp?

i have, and it is indeed excellent.  huge citrus bomb.  (insignificant aside: technically it's an american pale ale, but who cares, it's a high-grade hop delivery system).

speaking of RAR: i got a fresh sixer of their Nanticoke Nectar.  it's nice... but i was hoping for more.  this is their flagship, so maybe they can't get too intense lest they scare away the masses?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 30, 2017, 02:23:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 30, 2017, 01:27:04 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on January 28, 2017, 08:24:19 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on January 26, 2017, 10:21:38 am
Quote from: hutch on January 25, 2017, 07:40:11 pm
I love the Mad Fox.. I think the food is very yummy too....

the service can be spotty so make sure you start screaming

Orange Whip is delicious, one of the best local IPAs around IMHO.

Have you had rar's Pulp?

i have, and it is indeed excellent.  huge citrus bomb.  (insignificant aside: technically it's an american pale ale, but who cares, it's a high-grade hop delivery system).

speaking of RAR: i got a fresh sixer of their Nanticoke Nectar.  it's nice... but i was hoping for more.  this is their flagship, so maybe they can't get too intense lest they scare away the masses?

I find Nectar to be better fresh on draft... don't like it at all out of a can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 30, 2017, 06:15:48 pm
WANT:

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Ceramic Stoneware Weatherworn Cannonball Beer Growler
https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-Stoneware-Weatherworn-Cannonball-Growler/dp/B01D04S0J0/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 30, 2017, 08:07:21 pm
felt a little hoodwinked this weekend

Was in Harris Teeter and saw a bunch of Hopslam sixers in a stack
No price, but I was like "what the heck, keep hearing people talk about this"

was I surprised after looking at the bill...$22 for a 6 pack

It is good, but that's a little steep for a 6pack

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 30, 2017, 09:42:39 pm
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on January 30, 2017, 08:07:21 pm
felt a little hoodwinked this weekend

Was in Harris Teeter and saw a bunch of Hopslam sixers in a stack
No price, but I was like "what the heck, keep hearing people talk about this"

was I surprised after looking at the bill...$22 for a 6 pack

It is good, but that's a little steep for a 6pack



And Yada calls me cheap.

Are they 16 oz or 12 oz?

I paid $16+ for 16 oz four packs at the Veil and Other Half, and $20 for a four pack at SingleCut. Worth every penny.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 30, 2017, 10:34:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 30, 2017, 09:42:39 pm
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on January 30, 2017, 08:07:21 pm
felt a little hoodwinked this weekend

Was in Harris Teeter and saw a bunch of Hopslam sixers in a stack
No price, but I was like "what the heck, keep hearing people talk about this"

was I surprised after looking at the bill...$22 for a 6 pack

It is good, but that's a little steep for a 6pack



And Yada calls me cheap.

Are they 16 oz or 12 oz?

I paid $16+ for 16 oz four packs at the Veil and Other Half, and $20 for a four pack at SingleCut. Worth every penny.

I call you cheap too.. cause you are cheap...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 30, 2017, 10:37:23 pm
Quote from: hutch on January 30, 2017, 10:34:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 30, 2017, 09:42:39 pm
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on January 30, 2017, 08:07:21 pm
felt a little hoodwinked this weekend

Was in Harris Teeter and saw a bunch of Hopslam sixers in a stack
No price, but I was like "what the heck, keep hearing people talk about this"

was I surprised after looking at the bill...$22 for a 6 pack

It is good, but that's a little steep for a 6pack



And Yada calls me cheap.

Are they 16 oz or 12 oz?

I paid $16+ for 16 oz four packs at the Veil and Other Half, and $20 for a four pack at SingleCut. Worth every penny.

I call you cheap too.. cause you are cheap...

Two five figure salaries only go so far in a six figure town. And it used to be 1.5 salaries when my wife was a (by choice) partially employed SAHM. You do what you gotta do to get by.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2017, 09:50:41 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 30, 2017, 09:42:39 pm
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on January 30, 2017, 08:07:21 pm
felt a little hoodwinked this weekend

Was in Harris Teeter and saw a bunch of Hopslam sixers in a stack
No price, but I was like "what the heck, keep hearing people talk about this"

was I surprised after looking at the bill...$22 for a 6 pack

It is good, but that's a little steep for a 6pack



And Yada calls me cheap.

Are they 16 oz or 12 oz?

I paid $16+ for 16 oz four packs at the Veil and Other Half, and $20 for a four pack at SingleCut. Worth every penny.

I say someone is cheap when they're not willing to pay an extra buck or two for something of a much higher quality, which according to your post it looks like you've gotten past that.

I call someone dumb when they pay too much money for a crappy beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 31, 2017, 11:34:00 am
Quote from: shemptiness on January 28, 2017, 08:24:19 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on January 26, 2017, 10:21:38 am
Quote from: hutch on January 25, 2017, 07:40:11 pm
I love the Mad Fox.. I think the food is very yummy too....

the service can be spotty so make sure you start screaming

Orange Whip is delicious, one of the best local IPAs around IMHO.

Have you had rar's Pulp?

Still have yet to try Pulp but have had many of their other offerings (Hyde, 10 Layer with Mint to name a few) and have been a big fan of theirs. I agree with Yada that Nanticoke Nectar tastes much better on tap, and it's probably my favorite Maryland-based IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 31, 2017, 11:40:07 am
I finished off a 4-pack of Sixpoint Hi-Res.  Quite happy about this development. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 31, 2017, 12:02:45 pm
What are you drinking for the Super Bowl?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2017, 01:04:18 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on January 31, 2017, 12:02:45 pm
What are you drinking for the Super Bowl?

i bottled my empty-the-freezer, irresponsibly hopped DIPA on sunday (citra, galaxy, mosaic, simcoe, el dorado and a little apollo), so i might crack a few of those for the big game if they're carbed up by then.  tight timeline tho.  at bottling the stuff was as clear as a milkshake thanks to all those hops.

otherwise i'll be continuing my campaign to empty the cellar.  i'm eyeing some Firestone Walker boxes... maybe go for the holy trinity of parabola, sucaba and stickee monkee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2017, 01:08:34 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on January 31, 2017, 12:02:45 pm
What are you drinking for the Super Bowl?

Bud and Bud Lite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2017, 01:52:20 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on January 31, 2017, 12:02:45 pm
What are you drinking for the Super Bowl?

I'll be cheering for the team whose QB is not good friends with Trump.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 31, 2017, 05:56:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 30, 2017, 02:23:37 pm
I find Nectar to be better fresh on draft... don't like it at all out of a can.

This is true.  The pitcher(s) we had at the Smithereens show were much better than the canned version.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 03, 2017, 02:32:13 pm
This looks interesting-
Downtown Crown Wine and Beer!
Ghettosburg, Md-
Tonight, starting at 5pm, Lagunitas Brewing Co take over our taps with 8 drafts including some really special rarities! High West-ified Imperial Barrel-Aged Coffee Stout, Willett Barrel-Aged Imperial Stout, Dark Swan, a Dark Dry-Hopped Sour Ale w/ Grapes, 2015 Vintage Cappuccino Stout, Citrusinensis Blood Orange Pale Ale and more! Pours and crowler fills available on most.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 03, 2017, 02:44:28 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 03, 2017, 02:32:13 pm
This looks interesting-
Downtown Crown Wine and Beer!
Ghettosburg, Md-
Tonight, starting at 5pm, Lagunitas Brewing Co take over our taps with 8 drafts including some really special rarities! High West-ified Imperial Barrel-Aged Coffee Stout, Willett Barrel-Aged Imperial Stout, Dark Swan, a Dark Dry-Hopped Sour Ale w/ Grapes, 2015 Vintage Cappuccino Stout, Citrusinensis Blood Orange Pale Ale and more! Pours and crowler fills available on most.

High Westified is drink-worthy, and I'd love to try to Willett. The other tthree listed I've had and wouldn't bother getting again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2017, 09:06:45 pm
scored a delicious  4 pack of Nu-Tropic by Stillwater Artisanal Ales


Oh hutch...they have a beer for you: Why Can't IBU
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 04, 2017, 06:26:42 pm
Hopslam at RFD. Meh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 04, 2017, 06:54:26 pm
Then I had another.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on February 06, 2017, 01:31:06 pm
I stumbled upon a  750 of Rodenbach Caractère Rouge and had to have it, even though it was entirely too much money on it.  Made the second Alexander I bought seem like a steal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 06, 2017, 02:00:50 pm
those typically run for about $30, whole foods foggy bottom had some for what seemed like forever (actually they might still have some, haven't checked recently).  hopefully you didn't pay more than that...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 06, 2017, 02:05:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 06, 2017, 02:00:50 pm
those typically run for about $30, whole foods foggy bottom had some for what seemed like forever (actually they might still have some, haven't checked recently).  hopefully you didn't pay more than that...

I saw it listed for 16 euros at a beer store in Italy I'll be at later this year. Might have to bring a couple of those babies home!

Though truth be told, I think I like the Vintage and Grand Cru better (Rouge might be too sweet (?)). Haven't cracked an Alexander yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on February 06, 2017, 02:22:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2017, 02:05:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 06, 2017, 02:00:50 pm
those typically run for about $30, whole foods foggy bottom had some for what seemed like forever (actually they might still have some, haven't checked recently).  hopefully you didn't pay more than that...

I saw it listed for 16 euros at a beer store in Italy I'll be at later this year. Might have to bring a couple of those babies home!

Though truth be told, I think I like the Vintage and Grand Cru better (Rouge might be too sweet (?)). Haven't cracked an Alexander yet.

I never saw them at the P Street Whole Foods.  I picked mine up when I was in CA.  $28.00 before tax, which definitely feels steep. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 06, 2017, 04:22:20 pm
Quote from: gavroche on February 06, 2017, 02:22:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2017, 02:05:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 06, 2017, 02:00:50 pm
those typically run for about $30, whole foods foggy bottom had some for what seemed like forever (actually they might still have some, haven't checked recently).  hopefully you didn't pay more than that...

I saw it listed for 16 euros at a beer store in Italy I'll be at later this year. Might have to bring a couple of those babies home!

Though truth be told, I think I like the Vintage and Grand Cru better (Rouge might be too sweet (?)). Haven't cracked an Alexander yet.

I never saw them at the P Street Whole Foods.  I picked mine up when I was in CA.  $28.00 before tax, which definitely feels steep. 

If you're still talking about Caractere Rouge, there's some at a couple of the TW's in VA for $30. There's also some at my local Whole Foods for about the same.

I managed to get a couple of 32 oz growler fills of it for about $17 each a while ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 07, 2017, 03:21:58 pm
Make your picks now!

IPA Bracket (http://brackets.brewingnews.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=465671&tclass=National%20IPA%20Championship)
Imperial IPA Bracket (http://brackets.brewingnews.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=465671&tclass=National%20Imperial%20IPA%20Championship)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 07, 2017, 03:37:44 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on February 07, 2017, 03:21:58 pm
Make your picks now!

IPA Bracket (http://brackets.brewingnews.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=465671&tclass=National%20IPA%20Championship)
Imperial IPA Bracket (http://brackets.brewingnews.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=465671&tclass=National%20Imperial%20IPA%20Championship)

I snickered when I saw Port City's IPA (49th percentile overall and 30th percentile for style in ratebeer) listed first. Then I snickered some more when I saw Rebel IPA included. Who made this thing up, Hutch?  :D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 07, 2017, 03:58:03 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 07, 2017, 03:37:44 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on February 07, 2017, 03:21:58 pm
Make your picks now!

IPA Bracket (http://brackets.brewingnews.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=465671&tclass=National%20IPA%20Championship)
Imperial IPA Bracket (http://brackets.brewingnews.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=465671&tclass=National%20Imperial%20IPA%20Championship)

I snickered when I saw Port City's IPA (49th percentile overall and 30th percentile for style in ratebeer) listed first. Then I snickered some more when I saw Rebel IPA included. Who made this thing up, Hutch?  :D

That Hutch is such a loser when it comes to beer....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 07, 2017, 11:02:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 07, 2017, 03:37:44 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on February 07, 2017, 03:21:58 pm
Make your picks now!

IPA Bracket (http://brackets.brewingnews.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=465671&tclass=National%20IPA%20Championship)
Imperial IPA Bracket (http://brackets.brewingnews.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=465671&tclass=National%20Imperial%20IPA%20Championship)

I snickered when I saw Port City's IPA (49th percentile overall and 30th percentile for style in ratebeer) listed first. Then I snickered some more when I saw Rebel IPA included. Who made this thing up, Hutch?  :D
you do have
Union Jack -Firestone Walker Brewing
meeting
Soul Style -Green Flash

in the second round

but that was a long list of breweries I've actually never heard of
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 07, 2017, 11:08:39 pm
Today I drank a pricey beer from Barcelona.. I have a lot to celebrate these days as you all no doubt know...

(It is not true that I  do not drink alcohol FYI)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 07, 2017, 11:16:28 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump final President on February 07, 2017, 11:08:39 pm
I  do not drink alcohol FYI
I am not sure why, but that has always buged me a little

I understand the devout pilgrim and those who abstain for health reasons

but I never understood his gripe with the drink
as he attends so many parties and has lavish bars at every one of his hotels and golf clubs

Does the inner circle also abstin in his presence
Although Bannon I take for brown liquor
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 07, 2017, 11:21:53 pm
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 07, 2017, 11:16:28 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump final President on February 07, 2017, 11:08:39 pm
I  do not drink alcohol FYI
I am not sure why, but that has always buged me a little

I understand the devout pilgrim and those who abstain for health reasons

but I never understood his gripe with the drink
as he attends so many parties and has lavish bars at every one of his hotels and golf clubs

Does the inner circle also abstin in his presence
Although Bannon I take for brown liquor

Dude, WTF.. alcoholism killed my older brother...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 08, 2017, 09:09:05 am

Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 07, 2017, 11:16:28 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump final President on February 07, 2017, 11:08:39 pm

but I never understood his gripe with the drink

Dude, WTF.. alcoholism killed my older brother...
Did not know that
Also one does not die from alcoholism,...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 08, 2017, 09:10:56 am
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 08, 2017, 09:09:05 am

Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 07, 2017, 11:16:28 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump final President on February 07, 2017, 11:08:39 pm

but I never understood his gripe with the drink

Dude, WTF.. alcoholism killed my older brother...
Did not know that
Also one does not die from alcoholism,...


Tell that to my brother...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on February 08, 2017, 11:49:09 am
wow
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 08, 2017, 12:46:39 pm
heads-up:

Craft Brewers Conference
April 10-13
Washington, D.C.

there are always a bunch of peripheral events: tap take-overs, meet-the-brewer, special tappings, beer dinners, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 08, 2017, 03:24:00 pm
obligatory hems and haws from the peanut gallery...

#savorweekeventsarebetterthantheeventitself

http://www.savorcraftbeer.com/beer-food/savor-breweries/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 08, 2017, 03:32:58 pm
ok my beer is "Estrella" from Barcelona, Spain.. pretty good...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 08, 2017, 03:37:33 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump final President on February 08, 2017, 03:32:58 pm
ok my beer is "Estrella" from Barcelona, Spain.. pretty good...

Donnie, you sound like you're falling off the wagon harder than walkie.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 08, 2017, 04:10:13 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump final President on February 08, 2017, 09:10:56 am
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 08, 2017, 09:09:05 am

Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 07, 2017, 11:16:28 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump final President on February 07, 2017, 11:08:39 pm

but I never understood his gripe with the drink

Dude, WTF.. alcoholism killed my older brother...
Did not know that
Also one does not die from alcoholism,...


Tell that to my brother...
POTW right there. I literally LOLed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 10, 2017, 04:14:51 pm
Meet the Smithsonian's new Beer Historian

http://wtop.com/food/2017/02/meet-smithsonians-new-beer-historian/slide/1/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2017, 07:39:54 am
this was good to hear:
A special focus of McCulla?s collecting will be on homebrewing, which she traces back to the 1960s.

?Homebrewing was really where craft brewing began. We would not have what we call craft beer today without homebrewing,? she said.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on February 11, 2017, 02:34:37 pm
Re,release of Hopslam, bitches.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2017, 03:35:14 pm
not impressed by Stone Enjoy By 2.14.17 Chocolate & Coffee IPA

had some more of that Stillwater Nu-Tropic on draft...now that is the bomb
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 11, 2017, 04:14:04 pm
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 11, 2017, 03:35:14 pm
not impressed by By 2.14.17 Chocolate & Coffee IPA

Is this the new Henry Rollins beer line?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 12, 2017, 01:29:01 pm
http://www.bonappetit.com/story/dry-january-stats

How much weight you can lose and how much money you can save by quitting beer for a month.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 12, 2017, 02:40:23 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on February 12, 2017, 01:29:01 pm
http://www.bonappetit.com/story/dry-january-stats

How much weight you can lose and how much money you can save by quitting beer for a month.

I don't want to know!  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 12, 2017, 05:22:52 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump final President on February 12, 2017, 02:40:23 pm
I don't want to know!  ;D
I know
I pretend not to know, that I know
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 13, 2017, 09:49:52 am
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 11, 2017, 03:35:14 pm
not impressed by Stone Enjoy By 2.14.17 Chocolate & Coffee IPA

 

Can't say I'm surprised... who woulda thunk that an IPA and coffee/chocolate would go well together?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 13, 2017, 12:40:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 13, 2017, 09:49:52 am
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 11, 2017, 03:35:14 pm
not impressed by Stone Enjoy By 2.14.17 Chocolate & Coffee IPA

Can't say I'm surprised... who woulda thunk that an IPA and coffee/chocolate would go well together?

i've stopped pre-judging beers based on what i think they'll taste like, without tasting them.  sure, hops + coffee + chocolate sounds weird, but who knows what the final product will taste like.

i once thought that IPA + hot peppers/chilies would be awful.  the first spicy IPA i ever had wasn't good.  had one this summer that was pretty tasty, last week i had a homebrewed habanero IPA that was kick-ass.

cucumber beer sounds weird, but i've had cucumber saisons and cuke berliners that have blown my mind.

etc...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 13, 2017, 01:06:50 pm
The first coffee IPA I had was at the Tired Hands Café a couple of years ago, and it was actually fantastic. Maybe the chocolate addition carries things too far. Or maybe Tired Hands is better than Stone at this time.

We were in RVA recently, and though I've always been a Stone fanboy, I wouldn't even put them in the top three breweries in the city.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 13, 2017, 04:10:52 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 13, 2017, 12:40:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 13, 2017, 09:49:52 am
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 11, 2017, 03:35:14 pm
not impressed by Stone Enjoy By 2.14.17 Chocolate & Coffee IPA

Can't say I'm surprised... who woulda thunk that an IPA and coffee/chocolate would go well together?

i've stopped pre-judging beers based on what i think they'll taste like, without tasting them.  sure, hops + coffee + chocolate sounds weird, but who knows what the final product will taste like.

i once thought that IPA + hot peppers/chilies would be awful.  the first spicy IPA i ever had wasn't good.  had one this summer that was pretty tasty, last week i had a homebrewed habanero IPA that was kick-ass.

cucumber beer sounds weird, but i've had cucumber saisons and cuke berliners that have blown my mind.

etc...

I agree in some scenarios and your latter example is perfect. I'd try a cucumber berliner/saison in a heartbeat. I have had this beer a few times and it failed to impress me.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30581/94325/

In regards to coffee/chocolate flavors, I can say with confidence I wouldn't like that style. One, I have a certain expectation of an IPA if/when I have one. I haven't been a fan of any spicy IPA i have had (I do like spicy stouts nor do I really like fruited IPAs unless they're fruity due to the hops vs. being blasted with a specific fruit). Two, anything with a coffee/chocolate flavor I have an expectation in terms of mouth feel. Even stouts/porters that are more on the light side I have a hard time enjoying, just a personal preference!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 13, 2017, 04:22:12 pm
bystander
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 13, 2017, 04:23:57 pm
Quote from: Donald Trump final President on February 13, 2017, 04:22:12 pm
bystander

Never had it.
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/34671/138738/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 13, 2017, 04:26:37 pm
no no NO.. I meant I was a bystander in this thread.. I have no idea about cucumber beer..sorry
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 13, 2017, 11:32:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 13, 2017, 01:06:50 pm
I 've always been a Stone fanboy, I wouldn't even put them in the top three breweries in the city.
Kind of blows your mind, but I  concur with that
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2017, 12:55:03 pm
http://www.popville.com/2017/02/meridian-pint-brookland-pint-smoke-barrel-closing-kitchens-thursday-in-solidarity-with-immigrant-staff/

Also, I can't remember the last Stone beer I enjoyed, maybe their IPAs in the maltbomb IPA days of yesteryear? What is fanboy worthy in modern beer drinking days?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2017, 02:12:15 pm
stone beers i am still a fanboy of:
- most, but not all, of the Enjoy By series
- RIS
- wootstout
- Epic series (12.12.12, 11.11.11, etc.) if you can find them in good shape
- xocoveza
- ruinTen (including the variants)

stone beers that while not exciting are damn fine:
- IPA
- ruination
- vanilla bean porter
- enjoy after (i've only had one so far, the first one, so while i really liked it i'm not going to put a beer i've had one example of in my fanboy category)

stone made the decision to go big, so not everything they produce can be a palette crushing extreme beer.  but pretty much everything they make is at least good, with many examples of great to excellent.

</FANBOY>
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 14, 2017, 02:22:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 14, 2017, 02:12:15 pm
stone beers i am still a fanboy of:
- most, but not all, of the Enjoy By series
- RIS
- wootstout
- Epic series (12.12.12, 11.11.11, etc.) if you can find them in good shape
- xocoveza
- ruinTen (including the variants)

stone beers that while not exciting are damn fine:
- IPA
- ruination
- vanilla bean porter
- enjoy after (i've only had one so far, the first one, so while i really liked it i'm not going to put a beer i've had one example of in my fanboy category)

stone made the decision to go big, so not everything they produce can be a palette crushing extreme beer.  but pretty much everything they make is at least good, with many examples of great to excellent.

</FANBOY>

Have an Enjoy After I haven't crack yet, but +1 on everything else he said.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2017, 02:44:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 14, 2017, 02:22:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 14, 2017, 02:12:15 pm
stone beers i am still a fanboy of:
- most, but not all, of the Enjoy By series
- RIS
- wootstout
- Epic series (12.12.12, 11.11.11, etc.) if you can find them in good shape
- xocoveza
- ruinTen (including the variants)

stone beers that while not exciting are damn fine:
- IPA
- ruination
- vanilla bean porter
- enjoy after (i've only had one so far, the first one, so while i really liked it i'm not going to put a beer i've had one example of in my fanboy category)

stone made the decision to go big, so not everything they produce can be a palette crushing extreme beer.  but pretty much everything they make is at least good, with many examples of great to excellent.

</FANBOY>

Have an Enjoy After I haven't crack yet, but +1 on everything else he said.

I can say with confidence if I saw any of the beers listed above on the shelf, I wouldn't buy them. Maybe the xocoveza, but I'm sure that beer doesn't meet the ounce/cost space ratio factor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2017, 03:25:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 28, 2017, 07:34:49 pm
Will this beer the largest clusterfuck in Richmond beer history?


Saturday February 11th will be our second Tasting Room Remix. This time we are honored to host our good friends TRILLIUM!!!

Starting at 12pm when we open doors, we will be pouring 9 beers on draft from Trillium and some very special beers from us. We will announce the draft list from both breweries as we get closer. The Trillium team will be around hanging out all day too, so make sure you say sup.

For this special occasion, we decided to bring back the boiz from Maine at The High Roller Lobster Co to murder us with their inventive and classic lobster/seafood creations. They are bringing twice as much Lobster as last time, so don't freak out.

Like last Tasting Room Remix, we will have DJ sets all day from BillyCrystalfingers, Chenchilla, DJ El Capone, DJ Ant Boogz, and DJ Mom(Baxter from High Roller). We will also be hosting our first ever live music performance. Our friend and local hip-hop artist Chance Fischer will be turning things up to finish out the night.

It's going to be straight lit! So come through and try some rad beers from Trillium on draft and some cool limited beers from us Veilians.

Open 12pm-12am for this day. No cover. No tickets. Just awesome beer, food, and jamz all dang day!


Based on the social medias and some first hand accounts, sounds like it was somewhat disastrous and a giant cluster.

Assuming they switch things up for the one year anniversary party and offer guaranteed beers/sessions, I hope to turn in one of my haul passes to get down to Richmond for 24 hours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2017, 03:30:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2017, 02:44:00 pm
Maybe the xocoveza, but I'm sure that beer doesn't meet the ounce/cost space ratio factor.

it's in 6 packs now.

and even before the sixers, a bomber of xocoveza was very reasonably priced.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 14, 2017, 04:24:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2017, 02:44:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 14, 2017, 02:22:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 14, 2017, 02:12:15 pm
stone beers i am still a fanboy of:
- most, but not all, of the Enjoy By series
- RIS
- wootstout
- Epic series (12.12.12, 11.11.11, etc.) if you can find them in good shape
- xocoveza
- ruinTen (including the variants)

stone beers that while not exciting are damn fine:
- IPA
- ruination
- vanilla bean porter
- enjoy after (i've only had one so far, the first one, so while i really liked it i'm not going to put a beer i've had one example of in my fanboy category)

stone made the decision to go big, so not everything they produce can be a palette crushing extreme beer.  but pretty much everything they make is at least good, with many examples of great to excellent.

</FANBOY>

Have an Enjoy After I haven't crack yet, but +1 on everything else he said.

I can say with confidence if I saw any of the beers listed above on the shelf, I wouldn't buy them. Maybe the xocoveza, but I'm sure that beer doesn't meet the ounce/cost space ratio factor.

Xocoveza actually is a bargain. I bought a six pack of  this year (mispriced at $11.99, correct price was $15.99 or so, still a bargain imo), and three singles.

Compare that to what Westbrook charges for Mexican Cake, Perennial charges for Abraxas, and what Lickinghole charges for Heir Apparent...and it's a bargain.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2017, 05:16:54 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 14, 2017, 04:24:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 14, 2017, 02:44:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 14, 2017, 02:22:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 14, 2017, 02:12:15 pm
stone beers i am still a fanboy of:
- most, but not all, of the Enjoy By series
- RIS
- wootstout
- Epic series (12.12.12, 11.11.11, etc.) if you can find them in good shape
- xocoveza
- ruinTen (including the variants)

stone beers that while not exciting are damn fine:
- IPA
- ruination
- vanilla bean porter
- enjoy after (i've only had one so far, the first one, so while i really liked it i'm not going to put a beer i've had one example of in my fanboy category)

stone made the decision to go big, so not everything they produce can be a palette crushing extreme beer.  but pretty much everything they make is at least good, with many examples of great to excellent.

</FANBOY>

Have an Enjoy After I haven't crack yet, but +1 on everything else he said.

I can say with confidence if I saw any of the beers listed above on the shelf, I wouldn't buy them. Maybe the xocoveza, but I'm sure that beer doesn't meet the ounce/cost space ratio factor.

Xocoveza actually is a bargain. I bought a six pack of  this year (mispriced at $11.99, correct price was $15.99 or so, still a bargain imo), and three singles.

Compare that to what Westbrook charges for Mexican Cake, Perennial charges for Abraxas, and what Lickinghole charges for Heir Apparent...and it's a bargain.

How bout dah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 14, 2017, 07:21:14 pm
The Stones rock... I just wish I hadn't had such a bad experience when I saw them on Bridges to Babylon Tour at Jack Kent Cooke.. it was so awful.. Early appearance of Sidehatch's horrible ticket kungfu....I didn't see them again til 2006 in Baltimore which was absolutely amazing (smallest arena they played.. first time in baltimore since part of Yayas in 69!)... I got so loaded that night but what great fun...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 15, 2017, 07:24:56 am
Good thing they have that beer business to fall back on on case their music venture ever falls apart.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 15, 2017, 09:51:58 am
Anybody else hit up Pizza Paradiso last night for $4 (!!!) pours or Rodenbach Alexander and Wicked Weed Oblivion? If I lived closer, I'd be there for every happy hour until those two beer are gone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on February 15, 2017, 12:45:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 15, 2017, 09:51:58 am
Anybody else hit up Pizza Paradiso last night for $4 (!!!) pours or Rodenbach Alexander and Wicked Weed Oblivion? If I lived closer, I'd be there for every happy hour until those two beer are gone.

Don't go tomorrow - They'll be closed.

http://dcist.com/2017/02/area_restaurants_grapple_with_thurs.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 15, 2017, 08:03:16 pm
Quote from: ggw on February 15, 2017, 12:45:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 15, 2017, 09:51:58 am
Anybody else hit up Pizza Paradiso last night for $4 (!!!) pours or Rodenbach Alexander and Wicked Weed Oblivion? If I lived closer, I'd be there for every happy hour until those two beer are gone.

Don't go tomorrow - They'll be closed.

http://dcist.com/2017/02/area_restaurants_grapple_with_thurs.php
They also don't do happy hour on Thursday

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 15, 2017, 09:25:53 pm
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 15, 2017, 08:03:16 pm
Quote from: ggw on February 15, 2017, 12:45:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 15, 2017, 09:51:58 am
Anybody else hit up Pizza Paradiso last night for $4 (!!!) pours or Rodenbach Alexander and Wicked Weed Oblivion? If I lived closer, I'd be there for every happy hour until those two beer are gone.

Don't go tomorrow - They'll be closed.

http://dcist.com/2017/02/area_restaurants_grapple_with_thurs.php
They also don't do happy hour on Thursday



They actually do Happy Hour Mon-Thurs at Old Town and Georgetown locations. Dupont is Tues and Wed only.

On Thurs, Old Town and Georgetown will be closed, Dupont will be open with Ruth Gresser herself working in the kitchen...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on February 15, 2017, 11:13:16 pm
Brewers against Pruitt

https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/media-uploads/brewers_letter_opposing_pruitt_for_epa_-_feb_2017.pdf?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6277
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 15, 2017, 11:20:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 15, 2017, 09:25:53 pm
Quote from: AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 15, 2017, 08:03:16 pm
Quote from: ggw on February 15, 2017, 12:45:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 15, 2017, 09:51:58 am
Anybody else hit up Pizza Paradiso last night for $4 (!!!) pours or Rodenbach Alexander and Wicked Weed Oblivion? If I lived closer, I'd be there for every happy hour until those two beer are gone.

Don't go tomorrow - They'll be closed.

http://dcist.com/2017/02/area_restaurants_grapple_with_thurs.php
They also don't do happy hour on Thursday



They actually do Happy Hour Mon-Thurs at Old Town and Georgetown locations. Dupont is Tues and Wed only.

On Thurs, Old Town and Georgetown will be closed, Dupont will be open with Ruth Gresser herself working in the kitchen...



Who is making the pizza?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 16, 2017, 06:23:22 pm
Downtown Crown Wine and Beer Video Feature of the Week: https://www.facebook.com/DowntownCrown/videos/635488289970940/

This Friday February 17th, starting at 5pm, we'll be hosting a Unibroue tap takeover and snowboard raffle! With every purchase of a Unibroue draft, growler/crowler fill, or package product, and you'll receive a raffle ticket for a chance to win an amazing Gilson/Unibroue snowboard! Retail value of $599! Must be present to win, drawing will be held that night at 7:30pm. Unibroue knows how to throw a proper party, with swag and giveaways, plus sneak peak samples of brand new Unibroue beers which have yet to hit the market! You don't want to miss this one.. See you Friday!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on February 16, 2017, 06:29:40 pm
rar is doing a special release there Saturday the 25th
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 16, 2017, 10:24:05 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 15, 2017, 09:25:53 pm
[quote author=AmericanCarnage 🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 link=topic=19630.msg460333#msg460333
They actually do Happy Hour Mon-Thurs at Old Town and Georgetown locations. Dupont is Tues and Wed only.
Didn't know that, but I'm right by dupont
always thought it was lame they didn't to it Thursdays (only because that's always a good night for work sponsored happy hours and when I get a vote... we end up there)
Keep meaning to hit the Gtown one as it's right off the bike trail

Also...was weird downtown today. 
1/3 of the restaurants were closed, strangely enough District Taco was open and packed (and delicious)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2017, 11:32:43 am
When Psudeo Sue infiltrates Costco?

 (http://i.imgur.com/EzhlQ7N.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2017, 03:48:24 pm
looking forward to visiting penn druid this weekend
we rented a house very close for the weekend with another family

Is that a family friendly brewery?

Also some good recommendations on Hikes or fun outdoors things to do in that area

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 17, 2017, 04:01:08 pm
Quote from: Are they friends of yours?🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 17, 2017, 03:48:24 pm
looking forward to visiting penn druid this weekend
we rented a house very close for the weekend with another family

Is that a family friendly brewery?

Also some good recommendations on Hikes or fun outdoors things to do in that area



Yes, it is very family friendly. It helps if you kid can tolerate psych-rock. And you can tolerate funky beers.

Old Rag is the nearby hike I always do. I took my then eight year old last Spring. It was quite challenging for her, but she had a blast rock scrambling. Probably not a good choice unless you've done some other shorter hikes with the kids, or unless the kids are older.

White Oak Canyon is another hiking favorite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2017, 04:03:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2017, 04:01:08 pm
Yes, it is very family friendly. It helps if you kid can tolerate psych-rock. And you can tolerate funky beers.
oh I love the funky stuff...don't think anyone else will
but I can them there for a beer and a growler fill :)

Quote
Old Rag is the nearby hike I always do. I took my then eight year old last Spring. It was quite challenging for her, but she had a blast rock scrambling. Probably not a good choice unless you've done some other shorter hikes with the kids, or unless the kids are older.

White Oak Canyon is another hiking favorite.
kids 7 and 10 are pretty nimble, taken them on the Billy goat trail
not sure if that compares in difficulty
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 17, 2017, 04:33:31 pm
Quote from: Are they friends of yours?🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 17, 2017, 04:03:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2017, 04:01:08 pm
Yes, it is very family friendly. It helps if you kid can tolerate psych-rock. And you can tolerate funky beers.
oh I love the funky stuff...don't think anyone else will
but I can them there for a beer and a growler fill :)

Quote
Old Rag is the nearby hike I always do. I took my then eight year old last Spring. It was quite challenging for her, but she had a blast rock scrambling. Probably not a good choice unless you've done some other shorter hikes with the kids, or unless the kids are older.

White Oak Canyon is another hiking favorite.
kids 7 and 10 are pretty nimble, taken them on the Billy goat trail
not sure if that compares in difficulty


I've seen seven year olds on the Old Rag hike, but I know mine wasn't ready for it at that age. Whe was nearly 9. 

Old Rag is harder than Billy Goat Trail. For three reasons.

1.  There's a huge amount of elevation gain before you even get to the rock scrambling. 2400+ feet in all.
2. It's longer. 9.1 miles if you take the loop, 7.4 miles if you do the up and back.
3. The rock scrambling is marginally harder....My kid is tall/long limbed for her age (gets it from mom, certainly not from me), so that helped.

White Oak Canyon is good because you start by hiking down. And it's a down and up hike. So you can turn around at any point. Nice if you can make it to the first waterfall though, good place to picnic.

This all reminds me, national parks are free on Monday. In honor of Lincoln, FDR, and Obama.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 20, 2017, 07:58:28 pm
The 'Haze Craze': Beer Lovers' Newfound Obsession With Murky IPAs

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/02/20/515799364/the-haze-craze-beer-lovers-newfound-obsession-with-murky-ipas?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170220
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on February 20, 2017, 09:19:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2017, 04:33:31 pm
Quote from: Are they friends of yours?🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 17, 2017, 04:03:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2017, 04:01:08 pm
Yes, it is very family friendly. It helps if you kid can tolerate psych-rock. And you can tolerate funky beers.
oh I love the funky stuff...don't think anyone else will
but I can them there for a beer and a growler fill :)

Quote
Old Rag is the nearby hike I always do. I took my then eight year old last Spring. It was quite challenging for her, but she had a blast rock scrambling. Probably not a good choice unless you've done some other shorter hikes with the kids, or unless the kids are older.

White Oak Canyon is another hiking favorite.
kids 7 and 10 are pretty nimble, taken them on the Billy goat trail
not sure if that compares in difficulty


I've seen seven year olds on the Old Rag hike, but I know mine wasn't ready for it at that age. Whe was nearly 9. 

Old Rag is harder than Billy Goat Trail. For three reasons.

1.  There's a huge amount of elevation gain before you even get to the rock scrambling. 2400+ feet in all.
2. It's longer. 9.1 miles if you take the loop, 7.4 miles if you do the up and back.
3. The rock scrambling is marginally harder....My kid is tall/long limbed for her age (gets it from mom, certainly not from me), so that helped.

White Oak Canyon is good because you start by hiking down. And it's a down and up hike. So you can turn around at any point. Nice if you can make it to the first waterfall though, good place to picnic.

This all reminds me, national parks are free on Monday. In honor of Lincoln, FDR, and Obama.

I was at Copper Fox (which is right next to Penn Druid) this weekend.  Penn Druid looked like a fun place to sit out in good weather.

The other important difference between old rag and Billy Goat is that Old Rag has a lot more exposure.  Nothing that is actually dangerous, but I've learned from experience that it can definitely be tough for anyone afraid of heights.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2017, 02:03:32 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 20, 2017, 07:58:28 pm
The 'Haze Craze': Beer Lovers' Newfound Obsession With Murky IPAs

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/02/20/515799364/the-haze-craze-beer-lovers-newfound-obsession-with-murky-ipas?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170220

wow, that's some fast breaking, cutting-edge stuff right there... we should look into this  ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 21, 2017, 07:32:29 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2017, 04:33:31 pm
White Oak Canyon is good
This all reminds me, national parks are free on Monday. In honor of Lincoln, FDR, and Obama.
Made it to WOC and it was great...fantastic hiking weather
even though it was free, I put some money in the slot

:( Penn Druid was closed on Monday when I was planning to go
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 21, 2017, 12:31:31 pm
Went to Georgetown Square Wine and Beer in Bethesda for the first time and wow, it's pretty great! Got growlers of RAR Mint 10 Layer and Waredaca Cupids Curse, as well as Nanticoke Nectar that was canned on 2/16!

Turns out that they're under the same ownership as Downtown Crown, which explains why they also had cans of Manor Hill Passion Fruit (which I also bought).

FYI, for both stores you can follow what's on tap in realtime via the DigitalPour app - really nifty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2017, 12:49:16 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 21, 2017, 12:31:31 pm
FYI, for both stores you can follow what's on tap in realtime via the DigitalPour app - really nifty.

downtown crown also has realtime tap list on their website (http://downtowncrownwine.com/whats-on-tap-2/)... oh look, mosaic hennepin!

they also own Dominion Wine and Beer (http://dominionwineandbeer.com/) in Falls Church.  tap list also online (http://dominionwineandbeer.com/whats-on-tap-2/).

strange that Georgetown Square doesn't have its own website.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on February 24, 2017, 09:57:17 am
Has anyone has Diamondback Beer's Hop Brothel, or anything else for that matter?  I see they're having a can release close to me and was looking for some input.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 24, 2017, 11:42:42 am
So I was under the wrong impression that the Troegs'  Perpetual IPA was a sessionable one.  It's not (7.5 ABV)  and quite tasty!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2017, 10:08:45 am
more of a beer-n-bike guy...but for those who like to run-n-drink

The Growler Relay
Fair Winds is pleased to announce that we will be working with VA Momentum and Lake Anne Brew House in the most epic BEER RUN you'll ever do...The Growler Relay!

The Growler Relay consists of teams (with up to ten runners) and will take off from our taproom to Lake Anne Brew House and back for a total of 61.9 miles! Road trip dancing, transition point games, craft beer shenanigans, a large finisher party back at the taproom! Race day is April 22nd!

 Don't hesitate, team spots are very limited and WILL sell out very quickly (last race sold out in less than 24 hours!!!) Register now at https://www.vamomentum.com/growler-lorton.html


edit...just read the FAQ...it's a dry run ;(
Can my team drink alcohol on the course?
No. Drinking alcohol while on The Growler Team Relay course is strictly prohibited. Teams found in violation will be removed from the event. Save it for the post-race party at Fair Winds Brewing Company.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 25, 2017, 10:51:23 am
FINALLY had some Right Proper last night (Raised By Wolves). Very drinkable but I was ready to move on by the time I got 2/3 of the way through my glass.

What else should I try from them?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2017, 11:28:49 am
I really like
DIAMONDS, FUR COAT, CHAMPAGNE | Aromatized Berliner Weisse

and this is very drinkable
MASLOW | Dry-Hopped Farmhouse Ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2017, 11:10:59 pm
call me crazy...but $40 for 750ML is kinda nuts...
(http://www.newschoolbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/2014-Manhattan-NW-cropped.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 26, 2017, 11:25:14 pm
Quote from: great danger to our country...🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 26, 2017, 11:10:59 pm
call me crazy...but $40 for 750ML is kinda nuts...
(http://www.newschoolbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/2014-Manhattan-NW-cropped.jpg)

dude you gotta drink it like james ford style.. 50 ml per "session"..it is a session beer right?..it will last you 15 days!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2017, 11:38:11 pm
Quote from: great danger to our country...🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 26, 2017, 11:10:59 pm
call me crazy...but $40 for 750ML is kinda nuts...
(http://www.newschoolbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/2014-Manhattan-NW-cropped.jpg)

Yet many wouldn't think twice about paying $40 for a bottle of wine.

I think I paid in the $25-$30 range for one of their bottles at the brewery, but i wrote that off as a souvenir purchase.

Pro tip: Best bet on drinking some affordable Cascade is catching it on half price draft night at Smoke and Barrel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 12:04:05 am
make growlers drinkable again:

GROWLER CHILL: Keeps 3 Growlers Cold, Fresh & On Tap at Home
Growler Chill is a household countertap for growlers. Preserves freshness, purges oxygen and keeps your delicious craft beer cold!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/171471058/growler-chill-keeps-3-growlers-cold-fresh-and-on-t
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 12:04:53 am
the missus, who is not a hop-head, was CRUSHING on a growler of chillwave this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2017, 08:36:20 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 12:04:05 am
make growlers drinkable again:

GROWLER CHILL: Keeps 3 Growlers Cold, Fresh & On Tap at Home
Growler Chill is a household countertap for growlers. Preserves freshness, purges oxygen and keeps your delicious craft beer cold!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/171471058/growler-chill-keeps-3-growlers-cold-fresh-and-on-t
that's a pretty good idea...especially the idea of having different ones and one could keep adding new ones as ones empty
but at $400...I'll put up with the headache of finishing a growler in one night :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 28, 2017, 11:15:35 am
Quote from: great danger to our country...🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 26, 2017, 11:10:59 pm
call me crazy...but $40 for 750ML is kinda nuts...
(http://www.newschoolbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/2014-Manhattan-NW-cropped.jpg)

I can't believe I can routinely get a bottle of Kriek for $20 in Jersey. The price I have to pay is a weekend with the in-laws, however.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on February 28, 2017, 11:16:40 am
when, will the "aged in bourbon barrels," trend . . . end?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 11:59:07 am
Quote from: walkie,talkie on February 28, 2017, 11:16:40 am
when, will the "aged in bourbon barrels," trend . . . end?

hopefully never, as far as i'm concerned.  BBA'ed sours is the new frontier.

on the upside, there are plenty of non-BBA'ed beers out there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 03:10:29 pm
Best Beer Bars in America, Chosen by CraftBeer.com Readers
https://www.craftbeer.com/breweries/great-american-beer-bars-2017

saving you the read:

DC: Churchkey
MD: Max's
VA: Blue 5 Restaurant in Roanoke (??)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 28, 2017, 03:23:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 03:10:29 pm
Best Beer Bars in America, Chosen by CraftBeer.com Readers
https://www.craftbeer.com/breweries/great-american-beer-bars-2017

saving you the read:

DC: Churchkey
MD: Max's
VA: Blue 5 Restaurant in Roanoke (??)


Other than VA where I drink about once every few years, the same MD/DC bars seem to be on EVERY SINGLE list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2017, 03:39:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 03:10:29 pm
VA: Blue 5 Restaurant in Roanoke (??)

My sister lives in Roanoke and I've been there. If you had told me it was some amazing beer bar, I never would've known. Didn't look like a ridiculous number of taps. Food was merely "ok".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 04:38:17 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on February 28, 2017, 03:39:31 pm
Didn't look like a ridiculous number of taps.

per the article:

Bottles/Cans: 70
Draught: 46

maybe they added lines since you were last there...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2017, 04:44:52 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 04:38:17 pm
maybe they added lines since you were last there...
Possibly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2017, 04:46:12 pm
Oh, I had an usual beer last weekend. It was called Duchesse de Bourgogne. It cost like $14. It tasted like vinegar. Is this supposed to be a big deal? The dude acted like it was a big deal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 05:06:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on February 28, 2017, 04:46:12 pm
Oh, I had an usual beer last weekend. It was called Duchesse de Bourgogne. It cost like $14. It tasted like vinegar. Is this supposed to be a big deal? The dude acted like it was a big deal.

it gets a "meh" from me, but a lot of people like it.  it's one of the more widely available sour beers out there and if often a gateway beer into the world of sours. 

yes, the style (flanders red) can have some hints of vinegar (acetic acid) and the duchess is considered a classic example of the style, but duchess often has too much vinegar to be enjoyable.  it can also be a butter bomb (diacetyl).  it can be pretty tasty when you get a good bottle, but the misses aren't worth the hits IMO.  how they can get away with being so inconsistent in quality, yet so consistently popular, is beyond me.  it is indeed sour, but doesn't have a whole lot else going on compared to, say, a gueuze.

i did share a bottle over xmas and it was quite nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 28, 2017, 05:25:36 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on February 28, 2017, 03:39:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 03:10:29 pm
VA: Blue 5 Restaurant in Roanoke (??)

My sister lives in Roanoke and I've been there. If you had told me it was some amazing beer bar, I never would've known. Didn't look like a ridiculous number of taps. Food was merely "ok".

We're doing a roadtrip to Asheville for Spring Break....probably making some good beer visits down there...stopping off in Roanoke for the night on the way home...previously looked at the draft list for this place and though it was big, it was pretty unmemorable. Mekong or the Answer has a much, much better draft list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 28, 2017, 05:27:07 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 05:06:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on February 28, 2017, 04:46:12 pm
Oh, I had an usual beer last weekend. It was called Duchesse de Bourgogne. It cost like $14. It tasted like vinegar. Is this supposed to be a big deal? The dude acted like it was a big deal.

it gets a "meh" from me, but a lot of people like it.  it's one of the more widely available sour beers out there and if often a gateway beer into the world of sours. 

yes, the style (flanders red) can have some hints of vinegar (acetic acid) and the duchess is considered a classic example of the style, but duchess often has too much vinegar to be enjoyable.  it can also be a butter bomb (diacetyl).  it can be pretty tasty when you get a good bottle, but the misses aren't worth the hits IMO.  how they can get away with being so inconsistent in quality, yet so consistently popular, is beyond me.  it is indeed sour, but doesn't have a whole lot else going on compared to, say, a gueuze.

i did share a bottle over xmas and it was quite nice.

It's also on the sweet side compared to most other sours, imo. And that's not a good thing. While I'd never turn down a free glass or bottle of it, it's nothing I'd seek out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2017, 05:54:25 pm
also...they've had it on draft at the 930 at the top bar for years
Monk's kettle was my gateway Flanders red
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 06:00:31 pm
Quote from: great danger to our country...🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on February 28, 2017, 05:54:25 pm
also...they've had it on draft at the 930 at the top bar for years

right!  forgot about that.  i remember getting one before i was in to sours.  the bartender warned me.  i couldn't finish it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on March 01, 2017, 05:41:50 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 28, 2017, 05:06:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on February 28, 2017, 04:46:12 pm
Oh, I had an usual beer last weekend. It was called Duchesse de Bourgogne. It cost like $14. It tasted like vinegar. Is this supposed to be a big deal? The dude acted like it was a big deal.

it gets a "meh" from me, but a lot of people like it.  it's one of the more widely available sour beers out there and if often a gateway beer into the world of sours. 

yes, the style (flanders red) can have some hints of vinegar (acetic acid) and the duchess is considered a classic example of the style, but duchess often has too much vinegar to be enjoyable.  it can also be a butter bomb (diacetyl).  it can be pretty tasty when you get a good bottle, but the misses aren't worth the hits IMO.  how they can get away with being so inconsistent in quality, yet so consistently popular, is beyond me.  it is indeed sour, but doesn't have a whole lot else going on compared to, say, a gueuze.

Duchesse was my gateway to sour beers. Love at first taste. That beer is great for a hot summer day. It has gone up in price since I got into it. My local Total Wine has trouble keeping it on shelves.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 01, 2017, 09:38:14 am
I tend to prefer my sours poured small, so find that the 11-12 ounce bottle is both the best value and ideal size...even four sharing with my sour loving wife.

For that bottle size, you can't beat Cuvee des Jacobins Rouge or Rodenbach Grand Cru in a four pack for value and quality combined. Highly recommend them over the Duchesse.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 01, 2017, 11:35:52 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 01, 2017, 09:38:14 am
with my sour loving wife.
was there supposed to be a comma in there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 01, 2017, 11:57:04 am
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 01, 2017, 11:35:52 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 01, 2017, 09:38:14 am
with my sour loving wife.
was there supposed to be a comma in there?


no.  space is the sour one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 01, 2017, 11:58:50 am
this has been a banner week for zingers...so many contenders for PTOW

Hutch...you should start that thread
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 01, 2017, 01:16:32 pm
Maryland breweries seek level playing field with Guinness  (http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2017/02/27/maryland-breweries-seek-guinness-legislation.html)

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-58a9c078/turbine/bs-md-guinness-brewery-bills-20170217)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 03, 2017, 10:34:15 am
(https://i.imgur.com/xsBmIzm.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 05, 2017, 07:14:34 pm
in case anyone is looking for Rodenbach Alexander, Westover Market has at least 3 more bottles on the shelf for $20 each.  they used to have 4, but i grabbed one ;D

other brews i deprived NoVa beer drinkers of this weekend:
- Adroit Theory: Now I Am Death, Destroyer Of Worlds (Ghost 540), from Lost Dog Cafe take-out: more of an american blond barleywine than a triple IPA, in my opinion.  a lot of malt there, some sweetness (possibly from the high alcohol) and i wasn't knocked over by the hops.  not sure i'd spring for this one again but definitely worth a taste.  the usually-not-a-hop-head missus happily helped me kill this one.  not too surprising considering the level of hoppiness.
- Boulevard Collaboration No. 6 (https://boulevard.com/collaboration-no-6/), also Lost Dog - apparently the sum might not be greater than the parts per reviewers but those are some damn tasty parts.  willing to give this a shot.
- Founders Frootwood: for the missus.  a cherry beer aged in bourbon maple barrels that is on the sweet side.  i'm guaranteed to get some when i spring this one on the lady.
- a growler of Starr Hill Debut #10 Barleywine - damn decent.  sipping on it right now.  dangerously drinkable. not something i'd hunt down but definitely glad i grabbed this at the Clarendon Whole Foods.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 05, 2017, 07:30:12 pm
May I suggest pairing that Collaboration #6 beer with some bread pudding? That's what I had it with and it was a perfect match.

The Frootwood is decent. I'm thinking of adding one to some vanilla ice cream for a Frootwood Float.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 05, 2017, 08:05:08 pm
lagunitas IPA


i like it..

i tried eight point IPA (is that the name?) and i didn't think much of it...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on March 06, 2017, 01:14:32 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 05, 2017, 07:14:34 pm
in case anyone is looking for Rodenbach Alexander, Westover Market has at least 3 more bottles on the shelf for $20 each.  they used to have 4, but i grabbed one ;D

other brews i deprived NoVa beer drinkers of this weekend:
- Adroit Theory: Now I Am Death, Destroyer Of Worlds (Ghost 540), from Lost Dog Cafe take-out: more of an american blond barleywine than a triple IPA, in my opinion.  a lot of malt there, some sweetness (possibly from the high alcohol) and i wasn't knocked over by the hops.  not sure i'd spring for this one again but definitely worth a taste.  the usually-not-a-hop-head missus happily helped me kill this one.  not too surprising considering the level of hoppiness.
- Boulevard Collaboration No. 6 (https://boulevard.com/collaboration-no-6/), also Lost Dog - apparently the sum might not be greater than the parts per reviewers but those are some damn tasty parts.  willing to give this a shot.
- Founders Frootwood: for the missus.  a cherry beer aged in bourbon maple barrels that is on the sweet side.  i'm guaranteed to get some when i spring this one on the lady.
- a growler of Starr Hill Debut #10 Barleywine - damn decent.  sipping on it right now.  dangerously drinkable. not something i'd hunt down but definitely glad i grabbed this at the Clarendon Whole Foods.

And for those living in the district Alexander is available at the Mom's by Eastern Market.  Was $18 or $19 a 750.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 06, 2017, 08:24:26 am
^ una bicoca
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 06, 2017, 06:45:42 pm
This sounds tasty.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1402427269831278/
https://www.facebook.com/events/1079590685517896/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 06, 2017, 08:54:10 pm
^ that does sound good

found this today and very pleased
(http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit/beer_276571.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2017, 01:10:21 am
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 06, 2017, 08:54:10 pm
found this today and very pleased
(http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit/beer_276571.jpg)

this beer was brought a while back... consensus seems to be that this isn't their best offering.  certainly didn't impress me much.  i mean, it's a fine beer and i'd certainly rather drink it than a lot of stuff out there.  but compared to the more edgy stuff that RAR makes, this one is definitely their middle-of-the-road, it-pays-the-bills flagship. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 07, 2017, 09:27:38 am
maybe so, but I'm finding it hard to find things in the fridge at the local bodega and this hit the spot rather than sam adams or fat tire offerings
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2017, 09:28:58 am
What's a bodega?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 07, 2017, 10:38:50 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 07, 2017, 01:10:21 am
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 06, 2017, 08:54:10 pm
found this today and very pleased
(http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit/beer_276571.jpg)

this beer was brought a while back... consensus seems to be that this isn't their best offering.  certainly didn't impress me much.  i mean, it's a fine beer and i'd certainly rather drink it than a lot of stuff out there.  but compared to the more edgy stuff that RAR makes, this one is definitely their middle-of-the-road, it-pays-the-bills flagship. 

I honestly think this is one of the best Maryland IPAs you can find *on tap*. For whatever reason it just doesn't translate as well during their canning process. Very strange, but anytime I see it at a bar I tend to order a pint.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkie,talkie on March 07, 2017, 02:16:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2017, 09:28:58 am
What's a bodega?

The opposite, of when a snob only knows about total wine or Trader Joe's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 09, 2017, 01:07:41 pm
EpiQ beer adventures in the south western part of Florida over the past week, what a playground for all things beer if you have the time.

Highlights were daily stops at Cycle for their Weekday releases (very few neck beards, no lines, and beers by 8:30am each morning). Their bartenders were a bit prickish, but my guess due to Tampa Beer week they had been dealing with a lot of dumb people and extremely long days. Their stouts were outstanding and their sister brewery Orange Belt had incredible low ABV sours that I crushed for breakfast each day. Their IPAs were pretty meh and not really noteworthy at all.

Music was terrible most of the time with heavy metal (maybe fits the prickish bar tender mood) and some old hip hop was decent.

I was only able to pop into Cigar City for a quick second to stock up and have a few quick beers. Jai Alai from the teet is still absolutely delicious even though it's a bit of an old school IPA. Their gose and berliner were above average and their espresso coffee beer was delicious, tasted quite similar to a recent Trillium offering I had.

Music was Maggot Brain and Band of Gypsys, two thumbs up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 09, 2017, 01:42:36 pm
Savor
June 2 & 3
https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/
$135

Ticket Sale Dates
Member pre-sale: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 via Ticketmaster
Public sale: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 via Ticketmaster
 
SAVOR ticket sales are limited to four tickets per night, per order. To participate in the member pre-sale, you must be an American Homebrewers Association or Brewers Association member by March 12, 2017.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 09, 2017, 02:01:12 pm
if you're about to travel to a new city and you want to hit up a few beer spots, i recommend downloading the Brew Guru app from the AHA (https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/brew-guru/) (do not watch that embarrassingly bad video). it has a map that uses the Brewer's Association database of breweries and beer bars. 

do not download it right now - you get a 30 day free trial after you download it, so save those 30 days until you need them (i.e. are about to go on a trip).  after the free trial, i believe the app will stop working without an AHA membership ($37/year - depending how much & where you spend on beer, you can easily make this back via the discounts available to AHA members, as noted in the Brew Guru's map).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 09, 2017, 02:06:06 pm
Speaking of rar - their ChopDank Imperial Pale Ale (10.2%!) drops Saturday - Dank Day in Cambridge.  It's only brewed once a year.  Damn, I wish I lived on the Eastern Shore.

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/17191226_1369816116410154_5406268492903014219_n.jpg?oh=9fb520e0d9f63b7541e6fcb100307b9e&oe=59273ED6)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 09, 2017, 02:32:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 09, 2017, 01:42:36 pm
Savor
June 2 & 3
https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/
$135

Ticket Sale Dates
Member pre-sale: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 via Ticketmaster
Public sale: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 via Ticketmaster
 
SAVOR ticket sales are limited to four tickets per night, per order. To participate in the member pre-sale, you must be an American Homebrewers Association or Brewers Association member by March 12, 2017.

a wise man once named hutch once said, crusty bread...

http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=19630.msg459962#msg459962
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 09, 2017, 03:09:09 pm
you didn't have any ticketing info, including presales <-- value-added!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 10, 2017, 10:25:26 am
Purchased my first crowler, thanks to downtown Crown.  Wings of Armageddon!  Psyched to enjoy while watching the madness that is March!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 10, 2017, 12:18:34 pm
thehamilton just sent me this
Monday, April 10 - Wednesday, April 12
Three nights, three bands, three unique beers. In conjunction with this year's Craft Brewers Conference returning to DC, we have partnered with several independent breweries to bring you a hand-picked lineup of regional bands. Each night our menu will feature a unique beer from a brewery that we specifically paired with the evening's performer. Check out the full list of artists and participating breweries below!

Just Announced
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Lagunitas presents Low Cut Connie
Monday, April 10

The Band

Philadelphia's own Low Cut Connie is purebred rock and roll in every sense of the word. Front man Adam Weiner belts out lyrics while banging on the keys of his trusty piano Shondra (named in tribute to a dancer from Atlanta's infamous Clermont Lounge). Rolling Stone described the band's debut album as "what indie rock might sound like were it invented in Alabama in the late Fifties." The magazine's review of their sophomore release only gets more colorful, calling the band's sound ""like Jerry Lee Lewis if he'd had his first religious experience at a Replacements show." If you can't imagine what that sounds like, you best get your tickets and witness it for yourself.

 

The Beer

Over 20 the last years Lagunitas has gone from a hidden treasure, celebrated by local diehards to the sixth highest grossing craft brewery in 2015, and during that period the company has continued to stay true to its independent roots and spirit. From its inception, the brewery has made its mission to bring people together & become a part of the cultural conversation. Lagunitas is a close partner and frequent sponsor of NPR, including the popular Tiny Desk Series, and in 2012 they opened an outdoor performance space at their flagship Petaluma brewing facility and tasting room.

Button - Buy Tickets
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Ommegang presents The Felice Brothers
Tuesday, April 11

The Band

Last year's Life in The Dark was a big milestone for Americana quintet The Felice Brothers. The album coincided with the band's 10th anniversary and marked lucky number 13 in their expanding list of studio recordings. Not bad for a group whose origins include busking at New York City subway stops. These two brothers and three friends simply have fun playing American roots music, and you'll have fun watching them.

 

The Beer

Cooperstown has more than just baseball. When Ommegang first opened its doors in 1997, it became the first American farmstead brewery in over a century. Located in upstate New York on 136 acres of former hop farms, Ommegang specializes in Belgian-style ales. Their popularity has continued to rise, at times even out-pacing supply. The brewery is now distributed nationally to 46 states, including our own Washington, D.C., Maryland, and Virginia!

Button - Buy Tickets
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Terrapin presents Roadkill Ghost Choir
Wednesday, April 12

The Band

A seamless blend of ephemeral post-punk with rustic Americana makes Roadkill Ghost Choir unlike anything you've heard before. Numerous critics have drawn comparisons between lead singer Andrew Shepard and Tom Petty, in vocal style and lyrical sensibilities, but sonically the group skews more towards contemporaries My Morning Jacket and The War on Drugs. Electric guitars soaked in reverb and spacious synth drones complament Shepard's folksy songwriting to create an expansive, immersive sound suited for festival stages and arenas, which explains why notable festivals including Bonnaroo, Lollapalooza, South by Southwest, Governor's Ball, and Firefly Music Festival have all included Roadkill Ghost Choir in their lineup. Lucky for you, here's the chance to see them in a small, intimate setting on our stage.

 

The Beer

If you haven't figured it out by now, we are big Deadheads here at The Hamilton Live. So, it only makes sense that we chose to partner for evening with Terrapin, a brewery which takes its name from the Grateful Dead album Terrapin Station. The brewery is based out of Athens, GA, a college town that has long served as hotbed for alternative music in the Southeast; home to such acts as REM, of Montreal, The Whigs, and The Drive-By Truckers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 10, 2017, 12:36:55 pm
Felice Brothers are always a good time
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 10, 2017, 03:20:55 pm
Bought a four-pack of Diamondback Green Machine and was very impressed - never had anything by them before. It's not "OMG best thing ever" but it's great being able to walk into a store and buy a local, NE-style IPA without having to wait in line at a brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 10, 2017, 03:24:38 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 10, 2017, 12:18:34 pm
thehamilton just sent me this
Monday, April 10 - Wednesday, April 12
Three nights, three bands, three unique beers.

were there images that went along with this that featured actual beers, and not breweries?  or is it a case of them featuring those breweries?  if so, will they just be serving their usual lineups?  so many questions.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 11, 2017, 02:42:00 pm
SpeakEasy apparently ceased operations yesterday. Looking for a creditor lifeline.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2017, 04:23:24 pm
dance music n' beer:

U Street Music Hall presents
DIRTYBIRD BBQ DC
Saturday May 13, 2017
DC Brau Brewery
3178-B Bladensburg Rd NE

TICKETS ON SALE WEDNESDAY MARCH 15 at 3 PM EDT

This event is 18+

https://www.facebook.com/events/879725408836309/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 13, 2017, 05:19:02 pm
Quote from: vansmack on March 11, 2017, 02:42:00 pm
SpeakEasy apparently ceased operations yesterday. Looking for a creditor lifeline.

Mediocre beer + aggressive expansion at a time of increasing competition and more discerning drinkers = bankruptcy
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 13, 2017, 11:03:24 pm
^I proclaim Brennser our resident beer industry analyst...thank you Brenn
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 14, 2017, 09:42:32 am
Quote from: hutch on March 13, 2017, 11:03:24 pm
^I proclaim Brennser our resident beer industry analyst...thank you Brenn

There is no denying that Brennser knows his stuff when it comes to beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 14, 2017, 10:05:32 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2017, 09:42:32 am
Quote from: hutch on March 13, 2017, 11:03:24 pm
^I proclaim Brennser our resident beer industry analyst...thank you Brenn

There is no denying that Brennser knows his stuff when it comes to beer.

awwww, shucks guys - thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2017, 12:08:35 pm
Penn Druid coming to DC 3/29

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55db58d8e4b0d0a2a57d481f/t/58caaece8419c287d4b97101/1489678082099/ANXO+Potters+Pen+Druid.png?format=750w)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2017, 03:02:11 pm
Not too shabby for a grovery store draft list...

https://www.beermenus.com/places/41907-whole-foods-fair-lakes-cheez-town

Hopslam
KBS
Wicked Weed Old Fashioned
Speedway Stout variant
Two variants of Epic Big Bad Baptist
Sunday Morning StouT
A new Stone DIPA
An new ocelot IPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 17, 2017, 03:06:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2017, 03:02:11 pm
Not too shabby for a grovery store draft list...

https://www.beermenus.com/places/41907-whole-foods-fair-lakes-cheez-town

Hopslam
KBS
Wicked Weed Old Fashioned
Speedway Stout variant
Two variants of Epic Big Bad Baptist
Sunday Morning StouT
A new Stone DIPA
An new ocelot IPA


was that earlier today?  because i just looked at the page, 3:05 pm, and only the sunday morning was left from your list...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 17, 2017, 03:08:29 pm
^ friend of mine in Burke said he found Hopslam at his Giant
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2017, 06:00:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 17, 2017, 03:06:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2017, 03:02:11 pm
Not too shabby for a grovery store draft list...

https://www.beermenus.com/places/41907-whole-foods-fair-lakes-cheez-town

Hopslam
KBS
Wicked Weed Old Fashioned
Speedway Stout variant
Two variants of Epic Big Bad Baptist
Sunday Morning StouT
A new Stone DIPA
An new ocelot IPA


was that earlier today?  because i just looked at the page, 3:05 pm, and only the sunday morning was left from your list...

Sorry, there is a second list. Two venues in same store. 6pm update: Hopslam and KBS appear to be gone. Second list:

https://www.beermenus.com/places/37802-whole-foods-market-fair-lakes-sports-spot
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2017, 06:12:58 pm
good lord..its like a full time job for you guys..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2017, 09:35:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2017, 06:00:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 17, 2017, 03:06:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2017, 03:02:11 pm
Not too shabby for a grovery store draft list...

https://www.beermenus.com/places/41907-whole-foods-fair-lakes-cheez-town

Hopslam
KBS
Wicked Weed Old Fashioned
Speedway Stout variant
Two variants of Epic Big Bad Baptist
Sunday Morning StouT
A new Stone DIPA
An new ocelot IPA


was that earlier today?  because i just looked at the page, 3:05 pm, and only the sunday morning was left from your list...

Sorry, there is a second list. Two venues in same store. 6pm update: Hopslam and KBS appear to be gone. Second list:

https://www.beermenus.com/places/37802-whole-foods-market-fair-lakes-sports-spot

update: Perennial Sump was added to the list. I had one of those, and an Epic Big Bad Baptista. Baptista was the mvp of the night. I had Mexican Cake and Xovoveza earlier in the week, and the surprisingly, the Epic was the best of the three Mexican stouts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2017, 09:36:44 pm
Quote from: Paddy Salmon on March 17, 2017, 06:12:58 pm
good lord..its like a full time job for you guys..

When you're not going to shows five nights a week, you're forced to  develop other shallow interests.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 20, 2017, 11:31:39 am
Veil Brewing one year anniversary party tickets procured.

Should be a solid day of Mekong >>> Veil boozin'.

Also, coincidentally had a party in Ashburn on a weekend where Aslin cans were plentiful. I was able to get the max allotment of 3 of 4 cans with zero lines. Hoping this becomes the norm for Aslin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 20, 2017, 11:43:03 am
Quote from: Yada on March 20, 2017, 11:31:39 am
Veil Brewing one year anniversary party tickets procured.

Should be a solid day of Mekong >>> Veil boozin'.

Also, coincidentally had a party in Ashburn on a weekend where Aslin cans were plentiful. I was able to get the max allotment of 3 of 4 cans with zero lines. Hoping this becomes the norm for Aslin.

I went Saturday at 2 and got the max on Orange Starfish and Mind the Hop. Skipped Stellar Parallex (I have sooo much IPA's at home right now!), though in retrospect wish I had grabbed it.

I think I read that the SAturday can release was a one time thing because their schedule had been pushed back due to the storm; that Thursday will remain can release day.

Had a can of Orange Starfish last night, and I have to say I preferred it to the Veil, Other Half, and Three's cans we have been drinking the last couple of months, even when the latter were fresh. It's only true rival (among those I've procured from the source recently) is the Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells I brought home from the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 20, 2017, 11:49:40 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 20, 2017, 11:43:03 am
Quote from: Yada on March 20, 2017, 11:31:39 am
Veil Brewing one year anniversary party tickets procured.

Should be a solid day of Mekong >>> Veil boozin'.

Also, coincidentally had a party in Ashburn on a weekend where Aslin cans were plentiful. I was able to get the max allotment of 3 of 4 cans with zero lines. Hoping this becomes the norm for Aslin.

I went Saturday at 2 and got the max on Orange Starfish and Mind the Hop. Skipped Stellar Parallex (I have sooo much IPA's at home right now!), though in retrospect wish I had grabbed it.

I think I read that the SAturday can release was a one time thing because their schedule had been pushed back due to the storm; that Thursday will remain can release day.

Had a can of Orange Starfish last night, and I have to say I preferred it to the Veil, Other Half, and Three's cans we have been drinking the last couple of months, even when the latter were fresh. It's only true rival (among those I've procured from the source recently) is the Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells I brought home from the brewery.

Ehh... that's unfortunate.

But yeah, when in doubt always max out. I also hook up friends or just trade the extras. I have a box of Tree House cans coming thanks to these and in my opinion, those beers are light years ahead of Aslin.

The only one of the three that really blew me away was the the "Mind the Hop." I still find i prefer Veil way more than Aslin. Quality control, appearance, and alcohol burn tend to be a common theme at Aslin.

Additionally, drank a new Ocelot IPA side by side with the Aslin beers and it tasted like garbage compared to Aslin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2017, 12:05:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 20, 2017, 11:43:03 am
Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells
FYI...they currently have this on tap at PP dupont
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2017, 02:14:51 pm
New brewery in Alexandria with some old roots

(http://alextimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/MN-Portner2-696x464.jpg)
not sure why it says 2012....since it really opened it's doors in 2017?
https://portnerbrewhouse.com/

looks promising...but could be the next New District?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 20, 2017, 02:16:52 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 20, 2017, 02:14:51 pm
New brewery in Alexandria with some old roots

(http://alextimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/MN-Portner2-696x464.jpg)
not sure why it says 2012....since it really opened it's doors in 2017?
https://portnerbrewhouse.com/

looks promising...but could be the next New District?

I chatted with Space we have already agreed the place is shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2017, 02:23:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 20, 2017, 02:16:52 pm

I chatted with Space we have already agreed the place is shit.
lets be clear...neither of you have tried it
and there is only 1 BA review in

but I agree...it will probably suck


these seasonals don't sound terribul...

Winter Bronze Belgian Dubbel 6.2% ABV 16 IBU
Aromas of dark fruit, hints of toasted malt, caramel brown in color.

Modera  Pale Ale 5.1% ABV 30 IBU 12.5 Plato
A  light  in  color  single  hop  American  pale  ale  producing  piney  and  fruity  aromas  like
grapefruit. The Modera Pale Ale will maintain its malt backbone throughout the year but
rotate   hop   varieties   to   showcase   its   unique   flavor   and   aroma   char
acteristics   in
appreciation of the West End community?s diversity.

4 Points German India Pale Ale   6.8% ABV 63 IBU 16oz $6.25
An  IPA  brewed  exclusively  with  4  German  hop  varieties  (Mandarina,  Saphir,  Polaris  &
Northern Brewer)
creating unique menthol and citrus aromas.

?I?d Give Up Chocolate But...? Chocolate Stout  6.1% ABV 30 IBU  13oz $7.5
Chocolate lovers rejoice! Brewed with chocolate malt and 10 poun
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 20, 2017, 03:08:46 pm
x
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 20, 2017, 03:09:26 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 20, 2017, 02:23:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 20, 2017, 02:16:52 pm

I chatted with Space we have already agreed the place is shit.
lets be clear...neither of you have tried it
and there is only 1 BA review in

but I agree...it will probably suck


these seasonals don't sound terribul...

Winter Bronze Belgian Dubbel 6.2% ABV 16 IBU
Aromas of dark fruit, hints of toasted malt, caramel brown in color.

Modera  Pale Ale 5.1% ABV 30 IBU 12.5 Plato
A  light  in  color  single  hop  American  pale  ale  producing  piney  and  fruity  aromas  like
grapefruit. The Modera Pale Ale will maintain its malt backbone throughout the year but
rotate   hop   varieties   to   showcase   its   unique   flavor   and   aroma   char
acteristics   in
appreciation of the West End community?s diversity.

4 Points German India Pale Ale   6.8% ABV 63 IBU 16oz $6.25
An  IPA  brewed  exclusively  with  4  German  hop  varieties  (Mandarina,  Saphir,  Polaris  &
Northern Brewer)
creating unique menthol and citrus aromas.

?I?d Give Up Chocolate But...? Chocolate Stout  6.1% ABV 30 IBU  13oz $7.5
Chocolate lovers rejoice! Brewed with chocolate malt and 10 poun


Methinks Yada is pulling your leg. I don't recall having such a conversation. But my memory has been proven wrong before...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 20, 2017, 03:13:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 20, 2017, 03:09:26 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 20, 2017, 02:23:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 20, 2017, 02:16:52 pm

I chatted with Space we have already agreed the place is shit.
lets be clear...neither of you have tried it
and there is only 1 BA review in

but I agree...it will probably suck


these seasonals don't sound terribul...

Winter Bronze Belgian Dubbel 6.2% ABV 16 IBU
Aromas of dark fruit, hints of toasted malt, caramel brown in color.

Modera  Pale Ale 5.1% ABV 30 IBU 12.5 Plato
A  light  in  color  single  hop  American  pale  ale  producing  piney  and  fruity  aromas  like
grapefruit. The Modera Pale Ale will maintain its malt backbone throughout the year but
rotate   hop   varieties   to   showcase   its   unique   flavor   and   aroma   char
acteristics   in
appreciation of the West End community?s diversity.

4 Points German India Pale Ale   6.8% ABV 63 IBU 16oz $6.25
An  IPA  brewed  exclusively  with  4  German  hop  varieties  (Mandarina,  Saphir,  Polaris  &
Northern Brewer)
creating unique menthol and citrus aromas.

?I?d Give Up Chocolate But...? Chocolate Stout  6.1% ABV 30 IBU  13oz $7.5
Chocolate lovers rejoice! Brewed with chocolate malt and 10 poun


Methinks Yada is pulling your leg. I don't recall having such a conversation. But my memory has been proven wrong before...

Yes, it was a joke... But I bet it's Cap City Brewing caliber.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2017, 11:06:31 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 20, 2017, 12:05:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 20, 2017, 11:43:03 am
Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells
FYI...they currently have this on tap at PP dupont
oh man that's a good stuff
Glad I stopped by the
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 20, 2017, 11:24:25 pm
you left me hanging and now i can't sleep
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 21, 2017, 01:19:20 pm
Great news!

http://businesswest.com/blog/tree-house-brewing-co-expands-horizons/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 21, 2017, 01:40:55 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 20, 2017, 11:06:31 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 20, 2017, 12:05:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 20, 2017, 11:43:03 am
Singlecut Softly Spoken Magic Spells
FYI...they currently have this on tap at PP dupont
oh man that's a good stuff
Glad I stopped by the
...place (Pizza Paridiso DuPont)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2017, 01:51:58 pm
OK I can finally go to sleep now...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 22, 2017, 09:37:47 am
SMH...

http://nowiknow.com/why-marylanders-pay-more-for-a-little-less-beer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 22, 2017, 09:58:03 am
Quote from: excontradiction on March 22, 2017, 09:37:47 am
SMH...

http://nowiknow.com/why-marylanders-pay-more-for-a-little-less-beer/

I'm a huuuuuuge fan of Rolling Rock and High Life pony bottles... however, I haven't been able to find the High Life ones in quite some time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2017, 10:32:33 am
I made pasta with pesto last night and learned that Delirium Tremens pairs very well with it. Tonight, it's a pita pizza with either a Veil DIPA or a homebrew amber ale (I know, tough choice there.). Tomorrow, tostadas with some kind of IPA, or the homebrew. And a Founders Frootwood (root beer for the kid) float for dessert.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2017, 10:54:16 am
Enjoy By 4/20 is tasting nice and dank.  not the absolute best of the series but a damn solid offering.  unfortunately $18/sixer limits my ability to justify picking up another.  well, ok, fine, maybe just one more... it was 6 days old  - gotta love having that richmond brewery nearby.

Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2017, 10:32:33 am
Founders Frootwood float for dessert.

had the frootwood over the weekend.  maybe a float is the way to go, because on its own it's unimpressive IMO.  way too much cherry, way too little of everything else (including beer flavor).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2017, 11:08:22 am
Quote from: excontradiction on March 22, 2017, 09:37:47 am
SMH...

http://nowiknow.com/why-marylanders-pay-more-for-a-little-less-beer/

i love a lot of things about Maryland, and MoCo, but damn if their beer laws aren't idiotic. 

in an attempt to pull MD into the 21st century of beer laws, all MD residents should - nay, MUST - call their state senators to voice opposition to HB 1283.  it's fast, it's easy, and damn this bill needs to die a quick death (or at least be rewritten...):

House Bill 1283 Will Be Devastating for Maryland Brewers, and the Senate Needs to Fix It (http://naptownpint.com/2017/03/house-bill-1283-will-be-devastating-for-maryland-brewers-and-the-senate-needs-to-fix-it/)

From FeBREWary to March Madness: House passes bill that?s one step forward, two steps back for local beer (http://marylandbeer.org/febrewary-march-madness-house-passes-bill-thats-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-local-beer/)

please, MD'ers, make a call: http://mdelect.net/ <-- find your senator.  clock is ticking, do it NOW.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2017, 11:35:48 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 22, 2017, 10:54:16 am
Enjoy By 4/20 is tasting nice and dank.  not the absolute best of the series but a damn solid offering.  unfortunately $18/sixer limits my ability to justify picking up another.  well, ok, fine, maybe just one more... it was 6 days old  - gotta love having that richmond brewery nearby.

Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2017, 10:32:33 am
Founders Frootwood float for dessert.

had the frootwood over the weekend.  maybe a float is the way to go, because on its own it's unimpressive IMO.  way too much cherry, way too little of everything else (including beer flavor).

I bought the Frootwood right when it came out. Choice between a four pack and a bomber, I went with the four pack. Had one and my reaction was similar to yours. Wishing I had waited, a few weeks later my Whole Foods started splitting up the four packs and selling as singles...one 12 oz would have been enough for me.

Has anybody had the Enjoy After and if so, how good is it? I have the first one they made, and it's well after the After date, so I guess I should crack it in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2017, 11:59:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2017, 11:35:48 am
Has anybody had the Enjoy After and if so, how good is it? I have the first one they made, and it's well after the After date, so I guess I should crack it in the not too distant future.

i've had it and i thought it was really good.  i suspect you'll like it.  not much point in aging for years, some strains of brett can get really phenolic (spicy) with extended aging.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 22, 2017, 03:14:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 22, 2017, 11:08:22 am
Quote from: excontradiction on March 22, 2017, 09:37:47 am
SMH...

http://nowiknow.com/why-marylanders-pay-more-for-a-little-less-beer/

i love a lot of things about Maryland, and MoCo, but damn if their beer laws aren't idiotic. 

in an attempt to pull MD into the 21st century of beer laws, all MD residents should - nay, MUST - call their state senators to voice opposition to HB 1283.  it's fast, it's easy, and damn this bill needs to die a quick death (or at least be rewritten...):

House Bill 1283 Will Be Devastating for Maryland Brewers, and the Senate Needs to Fix It (http://naptownpint.com/2017/03/house-bill-1283-will-be-devastating-for-maryland-brewers-and-the-senate-needs-to-fix-it/)

From FeBREWary to March Madness: House passes bill that?s one step forward, two steps back for local beer (http://marylandbeer.org/febrewary-march-madness-house-passes-bill-thats-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-local-beer/)

please, MD'ers, make a call: http://mdelect.net/ <-- find your senator.  clock is ticking, do it NOW.

ha.. my buddy already received a call back from leaving a message.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2017, 03:15:02 pm
I have a sneaking suspicion I'm going to be a little bit sad I'm going to Asheville the week of the Craft Brewers Conference.



Brookland Pint (open at 11 a.m. daily)
 Monday - "Haze For Days" - Featuring Aslin, SingleCut, Lawson's, LIC Beer Project, Heist, Civil Society
 Tuesday - Ballast Point Brewery-Only Sours
 Wednesday - Sour Showcase with Almanac, Bullfrog, Cascade, Wicked Weed
 Thursday - RAR/J. Wakefield
 Friday - Westbrook/Manor Hill - Hope you're hungry. There will be lots of Cake

Meridian Pint
 Monday - Charlie Bravo Charlie Dinner and Tap Takeover - Wicked Weed, Surly, DC Brau, Maui, Flying Dog, Firestone Walker
 Tuesday - Columbus/Half Acre/Sun King/Rhinegeist
 Wednesday - Fremont/Crooked Stave
 Thursday - IPA festival - 30 breweries - 60 IPAs
 Friday - Modern Times

Smoke and Barrel
 Monday - Ocelot/Melvin/more TBD
 Tuesday - Captain Lawrence Beers from the stash
 Wednesday - Firestone Walker sours and rarities with David Walker in-house
 Thursday - 2SP/Forest and Main/Free Will
 Friday - 12% Importers Showcase - Evil Twin, Against the Grain, Stillwater, Blackberry Farms, Omnipollo, more
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2017, 03:33:02 pm
^ :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 22, 2017, 03:36:22 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2017, 03:15:02 pm
I have a sneaking suspicion I'm going to be a little bit sad I'm going to Asheville the week of the Craft Brewers Conference.



Brookland Pint (open at 11 a.m. daily)
 Monday - "Haze For Days" - Featuring Aslin, SingleCut, Lawson's, LIC Beer Project, Heist, Civil Society
 Tuesday - Ballast Point Brewery-Only Sours
 Wednesday - Sour Showcase with Almanac, Bullfrog, Cascade, Wicked Weed
 Thursday - RAR/J. Wakefield
 Friday - Westbrook/Manor Hill - Hope you're hungry. There will be lots of Cake

Meridian Pint
 Monday - Charlie Bravo Charlie Dinner and Tap Takeover - Wicked Weed, Surly, DC Brau, Maui, Flying Dog, Firestone Walker
 Tuesday - Columbus/Half Acre/Sun King/Rhinegeist
 Wednesday - Fremont/Crooked Stave
 Thursday - IPA festival - 30 breweries - 60 IPAs
 Friday - Modern Times

Smoke and Barrel
 Monday - Ocelot/Melvin/more TBD
 Tuesday - Captain Lawrence Beers from the stash
 Wednesday - Firestone Walker sours and rarities with David Walker in-house
 Thursday - 2SP/Forest and Main/Free Will
 Friday - 12% Importers Showcase - Evil Twin, Against the Grain, Stillwater, Blackberry Farms, Omnipollo, more

OOOOF... bad timing, brah.

Edit: Full list. - http://www.dcbeer.com/cbc17
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2017, 05:19:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 22, 2017, 03:36:22 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2017, 03:15:02 pm
I have a sneaking suspicion I'm going to be a little bit sad I'm going to Asheville the week of the Craft Brewers Conference.



Brookland Pint (open at 11 a.m. daily)
 Monday - "Haze For Days" - Featuring Aslin, SingleCut, Lawson's, LIC Beer Project, Heist, Civil Society
 Tuesday - Ballast Point Brewery-Only Sours
 Wednesday - Sour Showcase with Almanac, Bullfrog, Cascade, Wicked Weed
 Thursday - RAR/J. Wakefield
 Friday - Westbrook/Manor Hill - Hope you're hungry. There will be lots of Cake

Meridian Pint
 Monday - Charlie Bravo Charlie Dinner and Tap Takeover - Wicked Weed, Surly, DC Brau, Maui, Flying Dog, Firestone Walker
 Tuesday - Columbus/Half Acre/Sun King/Rhinegeist
 Wednesday - Fremont/Crooked Stave
 Thursday - IPA festival - 30 breweries - 60 IPAs
 Friday - Modern Times

Smoke and Barrel
 Monday - Ocelot/Melvin/more TBD
 Tuesday - Captain Lawrence Beers from the stash
 Wednesday - Firestone Walker sours and rarities with David Walker in-house
 Thursday - 2SP/Forest and Main/Free Will
 Friday - 12% Importers Showcase - Evil Twin, Against the Grain, Stillwater, Blackberry Farms, Omnipollo, more

OOOOF... bad timing, brah.

Edit: Full list. - http://www.dcbeer.com/cbc17

as far as i can tell, none of Space's events are listed on that DCBeer calendar.  assuming space's events are real, that calendar isn't the full list...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 22, 2017, 05:25:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 22, 2017, 05:19:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 22, 2017, 03:36:22 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2017, 03:15:02 pm
I have a sneaking suspicion I'm going to be a little bit sad I'm going to Asheville the week of the Craft Brewers Conference.



Brookland Pint (open at 11 a.m. daily)
 Monday - "Haze For Days" - Featuring Aslin, SingleCut, Lawson's, LIC Beer Project, Heist, Civil Society
 Tuesday - Ballast Point Brewery-Only Sours
 Wednesday - Sour Showcase with Almanac, Bullfrog, Cascade, Wicked Weed
 Thursday - RAR/J. Wakefield
 Friday - Westbrook/Manor Hill - Hope you're hungry. There will be lots of Cake

Meridian Pint
 Monday - Charlie Bravo Charlie Dinner and Tap Takeover - Wicked Weed, Surly, DC Brau, Maui, Flying Dog, Firestone Walker
 Tuesday - Columbus/Half Acre/Sun King/Rhinegeist
 Wednesday - Fremont/Crooked Stave
 Thursday - IPA festival - 30 breweries - 60 IPAs
 Friday - Modern Times

Smoke and Barrel
 Monday - Ocelot/Melvin/more TBD
 Tuesday - Captain Lawrence Beers from the stash
 Wednesday - Firestone Walker sours and rarities with David Walker in-house
 Thursday - 2SP/Forest and Main/Free Will
 Friday - 12% Importers Showcase - Evil Twin, Against the Grain, Stillwater, Blackberry Farms, Omnipollo, more

OOOOF... bad timing, brah.

Edit: Full list. - http://www.dcbeer.com/cbc17

as far as i can tell, none of Space's events are listed on that DCBeer calendar.  assuming space's events are real, that calendar isn't the full list...

Space's are definitely real... I probably should've looked at the actual list prior to saying, "full list. " Full disclosure, I didn't even look! hahaha

Also, nice sweetie shoutout that I just noticed on the page.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on March 23, 2017, 12:13:00 pm
Having CBC fall right on the start of Passover is cruel, cruel timing :'(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 23, 2017, 01:31:19 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 23, 2017, 12:13:00 pm
Having CBC fall right on the start of Passover is cruel, cruel timing :'(

can't you get a special dispensation?  i mean, Jared Kushner got permission to skip shabbat during the inauguration... surely this rises to that level, no?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2017, 01:59:10 pm
aslin is upping their output

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17492923_863105573828866_6424190955336773_o.jpg?oh=ce9d6b428fc9b3403df05a00cdaaebb6&oe=59639145)

Quote from: sweetcell on March 23, 2017, 01:31:19 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 23, 2017, 12:13:00 pm
Having CBC fall right on the start of Passover is cruel, cruel timing :'(

can't you get a special dispensation?  i mean, Jared Kushner got permission to skip shabbat during the inauguration... surely this rises to that level, no?
is julian posting as sweets today?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 23, 2017, 02:08:09 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 23, 2017, 01:59:10 pm
aslin is upping their output

sweet!!!

Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 23, 2017, 01:59:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 23, 2017, 01:31:19 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 23, 2017, 12:13:00 pm
Having CBC fall right on the start of Passover is cruel, cruel timing :'(

can't you get a special dispensation?  i mean, Jared Kushner got permission to skip shabbat during the inauguration... surely this rises to that level, no?
is julian posting as sweets today?

oh gawd - is my writing that bad?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2017, 02:38:12 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 23, 2017, 01:59:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 23, 2017, 01:31:19 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on March 23, 2017, 12:13:00 pm
Having CBC fall right on the start of Passover is cruel, cruel timing :'(

can't you get a special dispensation?  i mean, Jared Kushner got permission to skip shabbat during the inauguration... surely this rises to that level, no?
is julian posting as sweets today?

oh gawd - is my writing that bad?
[/quote]
Just sounds like a comment he would make
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 23, 2017, 02:43:35 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 23, 2017, 02:38:12 pm
Just sounds like a comment he would make
No, it doesn't and you betray that you know nothing of my oeuvre.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 23, 2017, 05:12:27 pm
ahhh  yeah brah

https://www.craftbrewersconference.com/event/sovereign-cbc-showcase-craft-beer-stars-vol-2
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 23, 2017, 07:18:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 23, 2017, 05:12:27 pm
ahhh  yeah brah

https://www.craftbrewersconference.com/event/sovereign-cbc-showcase-craft-beer-stars-vol-2

I wonder if they'll go beyond their current $15 snifter threshhold with any of those beers?

I wonder if the FW rariies night at Smoke and Barrel will be half price happy hour?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 24, 2017, 08:40:33 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 23, 2017, 07:18:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 23, 2017, 05:12:27 pm
ahhh  yeah brah

https://www.craftbrewersconference.com/event/sovereign-cbc-showcase-craft-beer-stars-vol-2

I wonder if they'll go beyond their current $15 snifter threshhold with any of those beers?

 

Good thing you don't have to worry about the prices since you won't be drinking them!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 26, 2017, 05:53:23 pm
More CBC events for me to be jealous of you guys...


Sovereign:

The series kicks off on Monday, April 10th with our good friends from Blackberry Farm

(Tennessee), Crooked Stave (Colorado) and The Bruery / Bruery Terreux (California). On this night we?ll feature no less than 23 beers from this exceptional trio of breweries!

On Tuesday, April 11th, The Sovereign is proud to feature the exceptional beers from Casey (Colorado), Monkish (California), Side Project (Missouri) and Oxbow (Maine). On this night, we?ll feature nearly 30 beers on bottle and draft from these phenomenal brewers!


On Wednesday, April 12th, The Sovereign is proud to feature the exceptional beers from Jester King (Texas), Jolly Pumpkin (Michigan), The Veil (Virginia) and Tired Hands (Pennsylvania). On this night, we?ll feature no less than 25 beers on draft from these phenomenal brewers!


Join us on Thursday, April 13th as we conclude our celebration of the Craft Brewer?s Conference with Wicked Weed Brewing. On this night, we?ll feature 12 different drafts from the Asheville, NC brewery.


Churchkey:


We kick things off on Monday, April 10th, highlighting a few of the best from the East Coast; Bissell Brothers (Maine), Other Half (New York) Suarez Family (New York), The Veil (Virginia) and Trillium (Massachusetts). On this night, we?ll feature no less than 30 drafts from these exceptional brewers!


On Tuesday, April 11th, we highlight some of our favorite breweries from the South; Burial (North Carolina), Creature Comforts (Georgia), Fonta Flora (North Carolina), The Answer (Virginia) and Westbrook (South Carolina). On this night, we?ll feature no less than 35 drafts from these exceptional brewers!



On Wednesday, April 12th, we highlight some of our favorite breweries west of the Mississippi River; Arizona Wilderness (Arizona), Jackie O?s (Ohio), Monkish (California) and Perennial (Missouri). On this night, we?ll feature no less than 25 drafts from these exceptional brewers!


On Thursday, April 13th, we highlight some of our favorite breweries from Vermont and Wyoming; Lawson?s Finest Liquids, Melvin Brewing, Foam Brewers and Black Tooth Brewing Co. On this night, we?ll feature no less than 30 drafts from these exceptional brewers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 27, 2017, 12:10:36 pm
Kudos to Union Brewing on their Older Pro-  a Gose aged in wine barrels with blueberries.  Delicious!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2017, 02:27:45 pm
Pretty, pretty niiiiiiice.

http://www.bxlbeerfest.com

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 28, 2017, 03:43:42 pm
I THINK... this is the entire list.

https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=i1j85n43tivc7r24ndetele9ho%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FNew_York

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2017, 09:43:54 am
Price check:

Avery Raspberry Sour, 32 oz growler fill at Fair Lakes Whole Foods, $8.

Avery Raspberry Sour, 10 oz pour at Churchkey, $14.

I realize Churchkey isn't a grocery store, but good lord.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 12:20:38 pm
Par for the course when comparing beer/grocery store to a bar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 03, 2017, 01:19:17 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 12:20:38 pm
Par for the course when comparing beer/grocery store to a bar.

You do know who you're dealing with here, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 01:44:58 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 12:20:38 pm
Par for the course when comparing beer/grocery store to a bar.

It's anywhere from $7-$10 for a 10-14 oz pour at any other bar in America.

https://www.beermenus.com/beers/86179-avery-raspberry-sour
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 03, 2017, 01:49:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 01:44:58 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 12:20:38 pm
Par for the course when comparing beer/grocery store to a bar.

It's anywhere from $7-$10 for a 10-14 oz pour at any other bar in America.

https://www.beermenus.com/beers/86179-avery-raspberry-sour

After a 5 second glance, pretty sure 90% of those are "beer stores" which doesnt' help your argument.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 02:15:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2017, 01:49:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 01:44:58 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 12:20:38 pm
Par for the course when comparing beer/grocery store to a bar.

It's anywhere from $7-$10 for a 10-14 oz pour at any other bar in America.

https://www.beermenus.com/beers/86179-avery-raspberry-sour

After a 5 second glance, pretty sure 90% of those are "beer stores" which doesnt' help your argument.

I'll help you out. The first three, much cheaper. The fourth, the Churchkey of New Jersey.

28 South · Restaurant
62.5 miles away · Menu Updated: 04/01/2017
10oz Draft for $6.50



Bully's Restaurant & Pub · Restaurant
82.9 miles away · Menu Updated: 02/16/2017
14oz Draft for $7


theMINT Gastropub · Restaurant
147.0 miles away · Menu Updated: 04/02/2017
13oz Draft for $8


The Beer Spot and Grill · Restaurant
210.9 miles away · Menu Updated: 04/03/2017
5oz Draft for $7
10oz Draft for $12


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 04:25:56 pm
Not going to bother looking them up but I presume none of those are in a big city. If so, they aren't fair comparisons.

I get the point, though, and Churchkey can/will charge whatever they want and get away with it.  Nobody's driving to Hagerstwon to save a couple bucks on a beer, tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 03, 2017, 04:49:42 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 04:25:56 pm
Not going to bother looking them up but I presume none of those are in a big city. If so, they aren't fair comparisons.

I get the point, though, and Churchkey can/will charge whatever they want and get away with it.  Nobody's driving to Hagerstwon to save a couple bucks on a beer, tho.

Has Space ever dissected the gas/time/travel/per oz of beer cost to you? If not, don't put the above theory past him!

Other than Space's thriftiness, let's talk about that 300 person Hill Farmstead line down the block from Church Key this weekend!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 05:09:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2017, 04:49:42 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 04:25:56 pm
Not going to bother looking them up but I presume none of those are in a big city. If so, they aren't fair comparisons.

I get the point, though, and Churchkey can/will charge whatever they want and get away with it.  Nobody's driving to Hagerstwon to save a couple bucks on a beer, tho.

Has Space ever dissected the gas/time/travel/per oz of beer cost to you? If not, don't put the above theory past him!

Other than Space's thriftiness, let's talk about that 300 person Hill Farmstead line down the block from Church Key this weekend!

I guess that's easier than driving to Vermont and waiting in line there too. After going to the Veil on the day of their Veil/Trillium mixer (and not getting any Trillium beer), I knew better than to go to anything Hill Farmstead related.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 03, 2017, 05:19:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 05:09:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2017, 04:49:42 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 04:25:56 pm
Not going to bother looking them up but I presume none of those are in a big city. If so, they aren't fair comparisons.

I get the point, though, and Churchkey can/will charge whatever they want and get away with it.  Nobody's driving to Hagerstwon to save a couple bucks on a beer, tho.

Has Space ever dissected the gas/time/travel/per oz of beer cost to you? If not, don't put the above theory past him!

Other than Space's thriftiness, let's talk about that 300 person Hill Farmstead line down the block from Church Key this weekend!

I guess that's easier than driving to Vermont and waiting in line there too. After going to the Veil on the day of their Veil/Trillium mixer (and not getting any Trillium beer), I knew better than to go to anything Hill Farmstead related.

Ooof... that hurts, I heard nothing but terrible things about that event. I can only hope that things are better in a few weeks (my assumption is it will be based on guarantees/tickets for pours and limited amounts of people per session).

HF doesn't really have lines anymore post expansion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 05:35:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2017, 05:19:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 05:09:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2017, 04:49:42 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 04:25:56 pm
Not going to bother looking them up but I presume none of those are in a big city. If so, they aren't fair comparisons.

I get the point, though, and Churchkey can/will charge whatever they want and get away with it.  Nobody's driving to Hagerstwon to save a couple bucks on a beer, tho.

Has Space ever dissected the gas/time/travel/per oz of beer cost to you? If not, don't put the above theory past him!

Other than Space's thriftiness, let's talk about that 300 person Hill Farmstead line down the block from Church Key this weekend!

I guess that's easier than driving to Vermont and waiting in line there too. After going to the Veil on the day of their Veil/Trillium mixer (and not getting any Trillium beer), I knew better than to go to anything Hill Farmstead related.

Ooof... that hurts, I heard nothing but terrible things about that event. I can only hope that things are better in a few weeks (my assumption is it will be based on guarantees/tickets for pours and limited amounts of people per session).

HF doesn't really have lines anymore post expansion.

In fairness I should say drove by the Veil before the opening of the Trillium mixer, line was too long, went to Stone then Triple Crossing (for their excellent NE DIPA), then back to Veil where Trillium sold out as we waited in line for the last of it. I'm done with those kinds of shitshows.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2017, 05:37:01 pm
you got to fight for your right....to buy beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 04, 2017, 10:42:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 05:35:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2017, 05:19:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 03, 2017, 05:09:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 03, 2017, 04:49:42 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 03, 2017, 04:25:56 pm
Not going to bother looking them up but I presume none of those are in a big city. If so, they aren't fair comparisons.

I get the point, though, and Churchkey can/will charge whatever they want and get away with it.  Nobody's driving to Hagerstwon to save a couple bucks on a beer, tho.

Has Space ever dissected the gas/time/travel/per oz of beer cost to you? If not, don't put the above theory past him!

Other than Space's thriftiness, let's talk about that 300 person Hill Farmstead line down the block from Church Key this weekend!

I guess that's easier than driving to Vermont and waiting in line there too. After going to the Veil on the day of their Veil/Trillium mixer (and not getting any Trillium beer), I knew better than to go to anything Hill Farmstead related.

Ooof... that hurts, I heard nothing but terrible things about that event. I can only hope that things are better in a few weeks (my assumption is it will be based on guarantees/tickets for pours and limited amounts of people per session).

HF doesn't really have lines anymore post expansion.

In fairness I should say drove by the Veil before the opening of the Trillium mixer, line was too long, went to Stone then Triple Crossing (for their excellent NE DIPA), then back to Veil where Trillium sold out as we waited in line for the last of it. I'm done with those kinds of shitshows.

I'd assume a grizzled vet such as yourself would know the in and outs of such a shitshow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2017, 08:59:12 pm
So I'm watching the Rolling Stones Crossfire Hurricane documentary on Netflix and at the 1:14 mark they are in the South of France in 1972 recording "Loving Cup" from Exlie and there amidst their shit is a can of Coors beer. Was Coors even exported to France in 1972? Or did the Stones special order it all the way from Colorado?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2017, 10:43:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2017, 08:59:12 pm
So I'm watching the Rolling Stones Crossfire Hurricane documentary on Netflix and at the 1:14 mark they are in the South of France in 1972 recording "Loving Cup" from Exlie and there amidst their shit is a can of Coors beer. Was Coors even exported to France in 1972? Or did the Stones special order it all the way from Colorado?


wow..deep thought!


well, another possibility is they could have had someone bring it to them.. like Gram Parsons or Bobby Keys or any number of people that were visiting them at Nellcote and hanging around mooching...or more likely their drug dealers of which they must have a bunch would have also been able to get imported beer and any other contraband particularly in a place situated so close to the major port city of Marseille...where a lot of sketchiness always went on.. also to consider any number of cruise ships coming to the french riviera would have had American beer on board and they could have gotten it that way (again likely through dealers)


was beer that bad back then that Coors was considered worth drinking for a bunch of British guys? or were they trying to be American or something? Like its cool to drink American shit beer....

its funny how beer tastes change.. i remember when I was a kid that Heineken was considered pretty prestigious.. I'm talking early 80s...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2017, 10:54:37 pm
This was discussed here:

http://shidoobeewithstonesdoug.yuku.com/reply/448076/Coors-Beer-at-Nellcote-in-1971#.WORfMoXTh3U

Another suggestion that perhaps Bobby Keys brought it to them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2017, 10:59:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2017, 10:54:37 pm
This was discussed here:

http://shidoobeewithstonesdoug.yuku.com/reply/448076/Coors-Beer-at-Nellcote-in-1971#.WORfMoXTh3U

Another suggestion that perhaps Bobby Keys brought it to them.


no.. if you read it .. its clear: the picture is from the Los Angeles overdub sessions

remember they had sessions at Nellcote and then they worked on it in LA

so the premise of your question was sadly incorrect... oh well..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2017, 11:02:53 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 04, 2017, 10:59:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2017, 10:54:37 pm
This was discussed here:

http://shidoobeewithstonesdoug.yuku.com/reply/448076/Coors-Beer-at-Nellcote-in-1971#.WORfMoXTh3U

Another suggestion that perhaps Bobby Keys brought it to them.


no.. if you read it .. its clear: the picture is from the Los Angeles overdub sessions

remember they had sessions at Nellcote and then they worked on it in LA

so the premise of your question was sadly incorrect... oh well..

The picture in the article is not the same time and location as the scene from the movie. Sorry if my post confused matters. i'll go back and rewatch and verify tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2017, 11:05:30 pm
there is nothing to rewatch

the picture in the bulletin board- and i used to be a stones freak myself but on IORR board-  is from a 1972 concert.. in fact it was used on the cover of the 72 ft worth bootleg but that is not what we're talking about


if you read the entire thread you get to the end and a poster clears it up...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 05, 2017, 07:08:45 am
Mounds of cocaine pairs nicely with watery beer, sounds like a match made in heaven.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 05, 2017, 09:37:38 am
every year, for the national homebrewers conference (recently renamed to "homebrewcon" - ugh), a local brewery produces a commemorative beer that is given to attendees.  in baltimore last year, Flying Dog handed out an amazing IPL called "Airwaves" - best one i've ever had.  this year's conference will be in minneapolis so Surly is stepping up to provide the beer... and with tongue firmly in cheek they will be handing out Whalezbrah! (https://www.homebrewcon.org/news/whalezbrah/) ;D

Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2017, 07:08:45 am
Mounds of cocaine pairs nicely with watery beer, sounds like a match made in heaven.

i thought champagne was the preferred accompaniment... jules?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 05, 2017, 09:44:06 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 05, 2017, 09:37:38 am
i thought champagne was the preferred accompaniment... jules?
Jules doesn't do coke.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 05, 2017, 04:42:24 pm
Speaking of shitshows, I am at Tired Hands today. There is a can release  so the sidewalks are littered with empty chairs  that will eventually be filled by folks in line to get cans.

I'm inside having a pint. The beer is fine but no chance I would ever wait for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 05, 2017, 04:46:47 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 05, 2017, 04:42:24 pm
Speaking of shitshows, I am at Tired Hands today. There is a can release  so the sidewalks are littered with empty chairs  that will eventually be filled by folks in line to get cans.

I'm inside having a pint. The beer is fine but no chance I would ever wait for it.


I have been to both Tired Hands places (prefer the café) a couple of times, and agree with you on the beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 05, 2017, 04:54:37 pm
Couldn't agree more with the above thoughts on Tired Hands... Haven't ever had a beer from there that's really blown me away and their "milkshake" series is down right gross (I think I just don't like vanilla/massive floaties in my beer).... and well, Philly. Eeeew.

Where's everyone drankin' next week?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2017, 07:21:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2017, 04:54:37 pm
Where's everyone drankin' next week?
figures Arlington's spring break is that week
so won't be don't any of the dc stuff
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 05, 2017, 07:37:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2017, 04:54:37 pm
Couldn't agree more with the above thoughts on Tired Hands... Haven't ever had a beer from there that's really blown me away and their "milkshake" series is down right gross (I think I just don't like vanilla/massive floaties in my beer).... and well, Philly. Eeeew.

Where's everyone drankin' next week?

Wicked Weed
Burial
Fonta Flora
Sierra Nevada

and likely a host of others....on their home turf...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2017, 10:40:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 05, 2017, 07:37:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2017, 04:54:37 pm
Couldn't agree more with the above thoughts on Tired Hands... Haven't ever had a beer from there that's really blown me away and their "milkshake" series is down right gross (I think I just don't like vanilla/massive floaties in my beer).... and well, Philly. Eeeew.

Where's everyone drankin' next week?

Wicked Weed
Burial
Fonta Flora
Sierra Nevada

and likely a host of others....on their home turf...

May the ounce to beer/cost ratio forever be in your favor. I'm predicting massive savings on this trip.

In other news, it appears Lawson's is somehow distributing Sip of Sunshine in the DC area as multiple stores have it as of yesterday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2017, 11:31:23 am
Quote from: Yada on April 06, 2017, 10:40:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 05, 2017, 07:37:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2017, 04:54:37 pm
Couldn't agree more with the above thoughts on Tired Hands... Haven't ever had a beer from there that's really blown me away and their "milkshake" series is down right gross (I think I just don't like vanilla/massive floaties in my beer).... and well, Philly. Eeeew.

Where's everyone drankin' next week?

Wicked Weed
Burial
Fonta Flora
Sierra Nevada

and likely a host of others....on their home turf...

May the ounce to beer/cost ratio forever be in your favor. I'm predicting massive savings on this trip.

In other news, it appears Lawson's is somehow distributing Sip of Sunshine in the DC area as multiple stores have it as of yesterday.

Pretty sure the Lawson's is a one time thing for CBC...I think we'll probably see some other out of market cans and bottles too.

If I were here next week, I'd be hitting Brookland Pint for lunch most days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2017, 02:11:15 pm
Bluejacket brewery is planning a major expansion beyond D.C.
Bluejacket Brewery is gearing up for a period of major expansion. The three-year-old brewery is searching for a site for a second production brewery outside Washington, as it aims to almost double the annual output at its Navy Yard brewpub from 2,200 barrels to around 4,000 barrels, add a canning line, and begin distributing its beers around the country.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2017/04/06/bluejacket-brewery-is-planning-a-major-expansion-beyond-d-c/

What?s new around Nationals Park in 2017? Beer gardens, brewpubs and Shake Shack.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2017/04/03/whats-new-around-nationals-park-in-2017-beer-gardens-brewpubs-and-shake-shack/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2017, 09:14:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 06, 2017, 10:40:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 05, 2017, 07:37:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2017, 04:54:37 pm
Couldn't agree more with the above thoughts on Tired Hands... Haven't ever had a beer from there that's really blown me away and their "milkshake" series is down right gross (I think I just don't like vanilla/massive floaties in my beer).... and well, Philly. Eeeew.

Where's everyone drankin' next week?

Wicked Weed
Burial
Fonta Flora
Sierra Nevada

and likely a host of others....on their home turf...

May the ounce to beer/cost ratio forever be in your favor. I'm predicting massive savings on this trip.

In other news, it appears Lawson's is somehow distributing Sip of Sunshine in the DC area as multiple stores have it as of yesterday.

I snagged a four pack of Lawson's and had one tonight and damn, that beer is stellar. Hoping I can get some more tomorrow. (stupid work doesn't let me bring beer into the office so won't be able to get and until after work)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2017, 08:31:34 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2017, 09:14:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 06, 2017, 10:40:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 05, 2017, 07:37:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2017, 04:54:37 pm
Couldn't agree more with the above thoughts on Tired Hands... Haven't ever had a beer from there that's really blown me away and their "milkshake" series is down right gross (I think I just don't like vanilla/massive floaties in my beer).... and well, Philly. Eeeew.

Where's everyone drankin' next week?

Wicked Weed
Burial
Fonta Flora
Sierra Nevada

and likely a host of others....on their home turf...

May the ounce to beer/cost ratio forever be in your favor. I'm predicting massive savings on this trip.

In other news, it appears Lawson's is somehow distributing Sip of Sunshine in the DC area as multiple stores have it as of yesterday.

I snagged a four pack of Lawson's and had one tonight and damn, that beer is stellar. Hoping I can get some more tomorrow. (stupid work doesn't let me bring beer into the office so won't be able to get and until after work)
is this in DC you are getting these?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 07, 2017, 09:34:12 am
Quote from: concertorium .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on April 07, 2017, 08:31:34 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2017, 09:14:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 06, 2017, 10:40:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 05, 2017, 07:37:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2017, 04:54:37 pm
Couldn't agree more with the above thoughts on Tired Hands... Haven't ever had a beer from there that's really blown me away and their "milkshake" series is down right gross (I think I just don't like vanilla/massive floaties in my beer).... and well, Philly. Eeeew.

Where's everyone drankin' next week?

Wicked Weed
Burial
Fonta Flora
Sierra Nevada

and likely a host of others....on their home turf...

May the ounce to beer/cost ratio forever be in your favor. I'm predicting massive savings on this trip.

In other news, it appears Lawson's is somehow distributing Sip of Sunshine in the DC area as multiple stores have it as of yesterday.

I snagged a four pack of Lawson's and had one tonight and damn, that beer is stellar. Hoping I can get some more tomorrow. (stupid work doesn't let me bring beer into the office so won't be able to get and until after work)
is this in DC you are getting these?

Yes, a number of places have it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 10, 2017, 11:00:09 pm
La cerveza mas fina!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 11, 2017, 01:26:04 pm
i won't be attending any CBC events this week, unless i sneak out for lunch somewhere (assuming i can find one, maybe PizzaP in dupont?).  i'm still trying to empty my cellar.  doesn't make sense to go out for beer when i've got more than i can handle at home.

another thing that i won't be taking part in, for the same reason as above, is Savor.  the list of breweries is below, the list of specific beers they'll be serving is here (https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/experience/beers/).  while not get-on-a-plane mind-blowing, i could certainly find enough in there to keep me very happy for an evening ;D

4 Hands Brewing ? Saint Louis, MO
Adroit Theory Brewing ? Purcellville, VA
Aero Plains Brewing ? Wichita, KS
Alesong Brewing and Blending ? Eugene, OR
Allagash Brewing Company ? Portland, ME
Anchor Brewing Company ? San Francisco, CA
Arcadia Brewing Company ? Kalamazoo, MI
Aspen Brewing Company ? Aspen, CO
Band of Bohemia ? Chicago, IL
Bluejacket ? Washington, D.C.
Boston Beer Co ? Boston, MA
Brewery Ommegang ? Cooperstown, NY
Brooklyn Brewery ? Brooklyn, NY
Butcher and the Brewer ? Cleveland, OH
Cape May Brewing Company ? Cape May, NJ
Country Boy Brewing Company ? Georgetown, KY
Crux Fermentation Project ? Bend, OR
Crying Eagle Brewing Co. ? Lake Charles, LA
DC Brau Brewing ? Washington, D.C.
Deschutes Brewery ? Bend, OR
Dialogue Brewing ? Albuquerque, NM
Dogfish Head Craft Brewery ? Milton, DE
El Segundo Brewing Co. ? El Segundo, CA
Fair Winds Brewing Company ? Lorton, VA
Fat Bottom Brewing ? Nashville, TN
FATE Brewing Company ? Boulder, CO
Flying Dog Brewery ? Frederick, MD
Flying Fish Brewing Co. ? Somerdale, NJ
Free Will Brewing Company ? Perkasie, PA
Fulton Beer ? Minneapolis, MN
Great Lakes Brewing Company ? Cleveland, OH
Green Flash ? San Diego, CA
Half Acre Beer Company ? Chicago, IL
Hardywood Park Craft Brewery ? Richmond, VA
Hops & Grain Brewing ? Austin, TX
Hopworks Urban Brewery ? Portland, OR
Joyride Brewing Company ? Edgewater, CO
La Cumbre Brewing Co. ? Albuquerque, NM
Left Hand Brewing Co. ? Longmont, CO
Lickinghole Creek Craft Brewery ? Goochland, VA
Lord Hobo Brewing Company ? Woburn, MA
Maui Brewing Company ? Kihei, HI
Melvin Brewing ? Alpine, WY
New Belgium ? Fort Collins, CO
New Holland Brewing Co ? Holland, MI
Ninkasi Brewing Co ? Eugene, OR
Odell Brewing Company ? Fort Collins, CO
Old Bust Head Brewing Company ? Vint Hill, VA
Perennial Artisan Ales ? St. Louis, MO
pFriem Family Brewers ? Hood River, OR
Port City Brewing Co. ? Alexandria, VA
Prison City Brewing ? Auburn, NY
Propolis Brewing ? Port Townsend, WA
Red Cypress Brewery ? Winter Springs, FL
Reuben?s Brews ? Seattle, WA
Revolution Brewing ? Chicago, IL
Right Proper Brewing Company ? Washington, DC
River Horse Brewing Company ? Ewing, NJ
Roadhouse Brewing Company ? Jackson, WY
Saint James Brewery ? Holbrook, NY
Saltwater Brewery ? Delray Beach, FL
Saranac Brewery ? Utica, NY
Saucony Creek Brewery + Gastropub ? Kutztown, PA
Schlafly Beer ? St. Louis, MO
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co ? Chico, CA
Sixpoint Brewery ? Brooklyn, NY
SKA Brewing ? Durango, CO
Smuttynose Brewing Company ? Hampton, NH
Stevens Point Brewery ? Stevens Point, WI
Stone Brewing ? Richmond, VA
Summit Brewing Company ? Saint Paul, MN
The Bruery & Bruery Terreux ? Placentia, CA
The Lost Abbey ? San Marcos, CA
Three Weavers Brewing Company ? Inglewood, CA
Toolbox Brewing Company ? Vista, CA
Track 7 Brewing Co. ? Sacramento, CA
Tröegs Independent Brewing ? Hershey, PA
Two Roads Brewing Company ? Stratford, CT
Uinta Brewing Company ? Salt Lake City, UT
Union Craft Brewing ? Baltimore, MD
Urban Chestnut Brewing Co ? Saint Louis, MO
Wicked Weed Brewing ? Arden, NC
Wild Wolf Brewing Co ? Nellysford, VA
Wolf?s Ridge Brewing ? Columbus, OH
Wolverine State Brewing Co. ? Ann Arbor, MI
Yards Brewing Company ? Philadelphia, PA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 11, 2017, 01:45:11 pm
La cerveza mas fina!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 11, 2017, 03:34:46 pm
music + beer... how appropriate!

"Read all about Soused, our collaborative Nordic IPA with Stone Brewing, Pen Druid Brewing, and Greg from the band Sunn O))). The brothers behind Pen Druid will be playing tonight under their band name, Pontiak at DC9 Nightclub and we want you all to come enjoy the fruits of our labor. Tickets available here: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1452340

Maximum Hops Yield Maximum Results: Making Beer With Sunn O)))
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/04/11/523252730/maximum-hops-yield-maximum-results-making-beer-with-sunn-o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 11, 2017, 05:12:14 pm
Heritage Brewing is opening tonight people!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 11, 2017, 10:42:41 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 11, 2017, 05:12:14 pm
Heritage Brewing is opening tonight people!!!!
sounds pretty good...
18 taps offering a wide variety of only the freshest craft beer inside our Clarendon taproom. From sours to barleywines, we offer ales from our brewhouse on site, or our flagship brewery Heritage Brewing co. in Manassas. One tap is dedicated to featured local breweries and collaborations. Our cellar consists of our own barrel-aged, limited release, and sour bottled beers which are available in house and to-go, along with six packs and fresh filled crowlers.


Edit...didn't realize that Heritage was pretty available locally and haven't been too impressed, but this still sounds pretty good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 11, 2017, 11:57:22 pm
La cerveza mas fina!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2017, 08:29:39 am
Heritage sucks. Their IPA is called "Freedom Isn't Free". I bet they all voted Trump.

Greetings from Asheville, y'all. The Funkatorium is awesome. Live bluegrass tonight. How's the Craft Brewers Conference events going?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 12, 2017, 08:55:22 am
Quote from: concertorium .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on April 11, 2017, 10:42:41 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 11, 2017, 05:12:14 pm
Heritage Brewing is opening tonight people!!!!
sounds pretty good...
18 taps offering a wide variety of only the freshest craft beer inside our Clarendon taproom. From sours to barleywines, we offer ales from our brewhouse on site, or our flagship brewery Heritage Brewing co. in Manassas. One tap is dedicated to featured local breweries and collaborations. Our cellar consists of our own barrel-aged, limited release, and sour bottled beers which are available in house and to-go, along with six packs and fresh filled crowlers.


Edit...didn't realize that Heritage was pretty available locally and haven't been too impressed, but this still sounds pretty good

I was quite intoxicated when I read this thread last night but could've sworn I saw my name somewhere in this here post... but yeah, terrible beer brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 12, 2017, 09:54:27 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2017, 08:29:39 am
Heritage sucks. Their IPA is called "Freedom Isn't Free". I bet they all voted Trump.

Greetings from Asheville, y'all. The Funkatorium is awesome. Live bluegrass tonight. How's the Craft Brewers Conference events going?

Be sure to hit up Chai Pani and Biscuithead. Actually went to the latter twice for breakfast because the food is amazing and dirt cheap compared to what you would get in DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 12, 2017, 12:41:55 pm
looks like KBS has just hit maryland, no idea if it's in DC or VA yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 12, 2017, 12:44:53 pm
and magruder's has parabola.  sip of sunshine last week.  all hell is breaking loose around here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 12, 2017, 01:23:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 12, 2017, 12:41:55 pm
looks like KBS has just hit maryland, no idea if it's in DC or VA yet.

It's already come and gone in DC in the past few weeks... It was still shelf turding it up at one location as of yesterday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2017, 10:52:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 12, 2017, 08:55:22 am
Quote from: concertorium .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on April 11, 2017, 10:42:41 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 11, 2017, 05:12:14 pm
Heritage Brewing is opening tonight people!!!!
Edit...didn't realize that Heritage was pretty available locally and haven't been too impressed,

I was quite intoxicated when I read this thread last night but could've sworn I saw my name somewhere in this here post... but yeah, terrible beer brah.
it was...but then I realized who the brewery was and knew I'd agree with you that they suck as I've actually tried them
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 13, 2017, 05:33:40 pm
HALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH.  there is hope for MD:

Maryland Has A Craft Beer Hero: Comptroller To Form Regulatory Task Force (http://wearebrewstuds.com/stories/news/craft-beer-maryland-hero-comptroller-form-regulatory-task-force/)

?The events of the 2017 legislative session are further confirmation that Maryland?s beer laws are antiquated, dysfunctional, anti-small business and anti-consumer,? said Comptroller Franchot, who made the announcement during a visit to Attaboy Beer, which opened in January as one of the newest entrants into Frederick?s flourishing craft beer community. ?This task force will examine national practices, beer laws of neighboring states, and will study ways we can remove statutory impediments that hurt Maryland?s beer industry.?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 14, 2017, 02:30:44 pm
At heartland brewery....gonna try the award winning farmer johns...
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 14, 2017, 02:32:43 pm
What's the best Asian beer? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 14, 2017, 03:11:54 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on April 14, 2017, 02:32:43 pm
What's the best Asian beer? 

supposedly there is a small craft brewery scene in hong kong, and one or two places in other big cities like taipai, singapour, shanghai, new delhi... but otherwise, it's 99.9% boring industrial lager.  asia's beer scene is... embryonic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 14, 2017, 03:12:18 pm
or was that a typo, and you meant "Aslan"?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 14, 2017, 03:54:50 pm
#cbc17 #liverfailure  >:(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 14, 2017, 03:56:28 pm
I'm imbibing some Veil DIPA right now on this decent Friday. This beer. This damn beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 14, 2017, 04:51:35 pm
Heartland indiana pale ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2017, 08:35:01 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on April 12, 2017, 09:54:27 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2017, 08:29:39 am
Heritage sucks. Their IPA is called "Freedom Isn't Free". I bet they all voted Trump.

Greetings from Asheville, y'all. The Funkatorium is awesome. Live bluegrass tonight. How's the Craft Brewers Conference events going?

Be sure to hit up Chai Pani and Biscuithead. Actually went to the latter twice for breakfast because the food is amazing and dirt cheap compared to what you would get in DC.

We did hit Chai Pani but not the latter. What a wealth of good eats and beer and hiking and entertainment on that vacation. I'm not getting on a scale for a couple of weeks. I won't bother typing it all out, but if anyone is going to Asheville and wants tips on Asheville, Western NC, or the Blue Ridge, pm me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 14, 2017, 08:59:48 pm
I mean it's bad enough that CBC was during Passover but to be stuck home sick the past couple of days is just icing on the cake. Probably saved some damage to my liver but between all the Advil I've been popping it's a draw at this point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2017, 11:01:00 pm
Florida really has some killer brews, the options are just off the charts
it is funny how some restaurants still just have the bud/corona offerings when some great beer is being made just miles away.

Civil Society (Jupiter)- their Fresher than Fresh on tap...delish!  pretty close to the Veil and Aslin IMO
Barrel Of Monks - went to Sour Saturday and had so many good ones wish I could remember, but there was and Odd breed colab that was great (Odd Breed still isn't opening until June ...so next year I'll pay a proper vist to these guys)
Holy Mackerel- I need to go back, but the Mack In Black Imperial black Ale was very good (tap list here is rockin')
Due South - category 5 DIPA is a very crush-able caned beer and pretty available
Cigar City - nice to get a week old cans Jai Alai with ease
Funky Buddha Brewery - Really enjoyed the Hop Stimulator
JWB - Had some seriously high ABV stouts with La Nada and Forbidden planet.  Was just passing though, wish I'd went lighter and had some of the Berliner Weiss options they had on tap ...alas 
I do love Wynwood for just walking around and checking out all the art on everything

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 15, 2017, 09:12:01 am
Quote from: brennser on April 14, 2017, 03:54:50 pm
#cbc17 #liverfailure  >:(

X2

What a week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2017, 07:28:36 pm
Ok, since Hatch took a crack at reviewing his Spring Break brewery tour, I'll take mine:

Olde Hickory Station (Olde Hickory Brewing, Hickory NC). Excellent beers, excellent guest taps excellent little bottle shop, food not so good.

Fonta Flora (Morganton, VA). Excellent  and interesting beers with foraged ingredients. Best of Doc Watson and Best of Conway Twitty on the cd player. My kind of place.

Pisgah Brewing (Black Mountain, NC). Decent beer, live jam session my wife was digging. Some old long bearded hippie guy who reeked of cigarettes came up and hugged me. My daughter asked, "Is he a hobo?" I mis-heard her with all the noise and thought she asked "Is he a homo?"

New Belgium Brewing (Asheville, NC) Excellent tour with plenty of free beer including La Folie. Great river view seating on a picture perfect day. Lots of outdoor space with plenty of people frolicking.

Funkatorium (Asheville, NC) All Wicked Weed sours, all the time. Informative tour, a little awkward as we were the only three people on the tour. I think I tried maybe 14 different tasters over the course of two visits. All very good, many very excellent. Great bottle shop (only Wicked Weed beers)

Hi Wire (Big Top location, Asheville, NC). Unremarkable but not terrible.

Sierra Nevada (Mills River, NC). Excellent, free tour with lots of free beer. Good food. Ambiance a little too estate-y and overdone for us. I can totally see why someone referred to this place as Malt Disney World.

Appalachian Vintner (Asheville, NC) Best bottle shop in town, and they had KBS on draft for $8/pour to boot (and Grimm and Lodgson among others).

Appalachian Mountain Brewing (Boone, NC) Four excellent beers, good ambiance, lots of dogs, great food truck. Beers included a brett porter, and a chocolate pomegranate gose (!) that you'd have to taste to believe.

Blue Mountain Brewing (Afton VA) Good DIPA and excellent peach gose. Decent food. Great view of the mountains, very dog friendly.

Three Notch'd Brewing (Charlottesville, VA) Their Minute Man IPA has to be one of the most underrated beers produced in VA. It's not really NE style as they bill it, but damn is it tasty.

Great tapas at Curate, great Indian at Chai Pani, great tacos at White Duck Taco, great Thai curry at Sierra Nevada. Asheville Pinball Museum was a lot of fun. Daughter enjoyed "gem mining" near Boone. Daughter puked multiple times due to the drive down Blue Ridge Highway.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 17, 2017, 07:48:47 am
Founders KBS at Frisco in Columbia on Friday at 7. Maybe it's been available in DC for a while now, but thought I would just give everyone a heads up!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 17, 2017, 09:51:00 am
Quote from: brennser on April 14, 2017, 03:54:50 pm
#cbc17 #liverfailure  >:(

highlights?

Quote from: Yada on April 15, 2017, 09:12:01 am
Quote from: brennser on April 14, 2017, 03:54:50 pm
#cbc17 #liverfailure  >:(

X2

What a week.

ditto?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 17, 2017, 09:52:45 am
SN: Were any boardies at The Veil on Saturday? A dude in a 9:30 shirt and a long hairded hippie kept eyeballing the group of people I was in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 17, 2017, 11:08:28 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 17, 2017, 09:51:00 am
Quote from: brennser on April 14, 2017, 03:54:50 pm
#cbc17 #liverfailure  >:(

highlights?

Quote from: Yada on April 15, 2017, 09:12:01 am
Quote from: brennser on April 14, 2017, 03:54:50 pm
#cbc17 #liverfailure  >:(

X2

What a week.

ditto?


In no particular order other than my BOTW being listed as #1.

1.   Fuzzy by Side Project (just absolute perfection, wow)
2.   Jammy by Side Project/Casey collaboration
3.   Derivation #6 by Side Project
4.   DFPF by J. Wakefield (possibly in second place for the week)
5.   Albatross by Brew Gentlemen
6.   Hop Showers by Other Half
7.   Trouble in Paradise by 3 Stars (undoubtedly the best 3 Stars beers I?ve ever had)
8.   Coffee Cinnamon B-Bomb by Fremont
9.   Persica by Crooked Stave
10.   Wicked Juicy by Cellar Maker
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 17, 2017, 05:58:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 17, 2017, 11:08:28 am
4.   DFPF by J. Wakefield
was at JWB this week and they don't even have that there
not sure why they don't make it all the time, but rare is what people crave
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 19, 2017, 10:53:18 am
Any reports on the Lagunitas Waldo?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 11:38:48 am
Quote from: Bagley on April 19, 2017, 10:53:18 am
Any reports on the Lagunitas Waldo?

Last years was really boozy.

Craft Beer Cellar in DC had some a couple of weeks ago.

Check the Total Wine website if you live in VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 19, 2017, 11:40:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 11:38:48 am
Quote from: Bagley on April 19, 2017, 10:53:18 am
Any reports on the Lagunitas Waldo?

Last years was really boozy.

Craft Beer Cellar in DC had some a couple of weeks ago.

Check the Total Wine website if you live in VA.
Y'all discussin' where's Waldo?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 19, 2017, 12:02:41 pm
Quote from: Bagley on April 19, 2017, 10:53:18 am
Any reports on the Lagunitas Waldo?

the stickiest of the icky?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 01:53:44 pm
No, you didn't just see me at Brookland Pint drinking a Zombie Dust with my lunch.

Because you weren't there. Unless you were the guy ordering the DC Brau Pils or the girl ordering the Port City Optimal, or the old people drinking just water, or the couple with matching glasses of white wine (who knew Vansmack was still in town)?. Eyerolls to them all.

They also had ten different Westbrook beers, including three versions of Mexican Cake and two version of Gose, but a man has to be productive in the afternoon, so those will have to wait.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2017, 02:24:11 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 01:53:44 pm
No, you didn't just see me at Brookland Pint drinking a Zombie Dust with my lunch.
(...)
but a man has to be productive in the afternoon, so those will have to wait.

oh stop it.  you're trying to tell us you had a whole beer to yourself, and you're still productive?  puh-lease.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2017, 02:32:52 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 01:53:44 pm
or the couple with matching glasses of white wine (who knew Vansmack was still in town)?. Eyerolls to them all.

Please.  This shows how little you know about wine. 

I drink Sauv Blanc and the Mrs drinks Chardonnay.  Hardly matching.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 19, 2017, 02:37:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 19, 2017, 02:24:11 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 01:53:44 pm
No, you didn't just see me at Brookland Pint drinking a Zombie Dust with my lunch.
(...)
but a man has to be productive in the afternoon, so those will have to wait.

oh stop it.  you're trying to tell us you had a whole beer to yourself, and you're still productive?  puh-lease.

plus, metro to and from Brookland Pint x $7 pour, Space is deep in the hole on this lunch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 02:44:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 19, 2017, 02:37:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 19, 2017, 02:24:11 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 01:53:44 pm
No, you didn't just see me at Brookland Pint drinking a Zombie Dust with my lunch.
(...)
but a man has to be productive in the afternoon, so those will have to wait.

oh stop it.  you're trying to tell us you had a whole beer to yourself, and you're still productive?  puh-lease.

plus, metro to and from Brookland Pint x $7 pour, Space is deep in the hole on this lunch.

Yes, I'm going to have to put in overtime hours down at the James Ford plant this weekend for sure. In my defense, I do work pretty close to Brookland Pint. Close enough that I considered jogging there stevewizzle style, though I didn't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 19, 2017, 02:47:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 02:44:31 pm
Close enough that I considered jogging there stevewizzle style, though I didn't.
It's funny that you reference our departed former-boardie as I have it directly from the horse's mouth that he no longer posts here because he loathes you and could not stand to be on the same message board as you any longer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 03:10:25 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 19, 2017, 02:47:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 02:44:31 pm
Close enough that I considered jogging there stevewizzle style, though I didn't.
It's funny that you reference our departed former-boardie as I have it directly from the horse's mouth that he no longer posts here because he loathes you and could not stand to be on the same message board as you any longer.

Sounds like a typical regressive pc liberal who can't stand to be around anyone who doesn't share his narrow view of the world. No difference between someone like that and a diehard right winger, imo. Glad not everyone in the world is like that.  ;) I would think the fact that he lives a life on a different coast completely disconnected from the 9:30 Club would also have something to do with his disappearance.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2017, 03:13:01 pm
Says the guy who said "Eyerolls to them all" who weren't doing exactly what he was doing on his lunch....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2017, 03:16:24 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 19, 2017, 03:13:01 pm
Says the guy who said "Eyerolls to them all" who weren't doing exactly what he was doing on his lunch....

Sure, but it's not like I walked out of the place in disgust.  ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 20, 2017, 10:26:09 am
Jules,

You have fresh sheets on the futon for my stay this weekend?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 20, 2017, 10:53:31 am
Quote from: Yada on April 20, 2017, 10:26:09 am
Jules,

You have fresh sheets on the futon for my stay this weekend?
Depends. You have a spare ticket for Saturday?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 20, 2017, 01:22:58 pm
https://pudding.cool/2017/04/beer/


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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2017, 02:07:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 20, 2017, 10:53:31 am
Quote from: Yada on April 20, 2017, 10:26:09 am
Jules,

You have fresh sheets on the futon for my stay this weekend?
Depends. You have a spare ticket for Saturday?

He asked about sheets, not diapers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 20, 2017, 02:08:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 20, 2017, 02:07:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 20, 2017, 10:53:31 am
Quote from: Yada on April 20, 2017, 10:26:09 am
Jules,

You have fresh sheets on the futon for my stay this weekend?
Depends. You have a spare ticket for Saturday?

He asked about sheets, not diapers.
I don't want to go into graphic detail but let's just say Yada is a very messy house guest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2017, 02:12:23 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 20, 2017, 02:08:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 20, 2017, 02:07:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 20, 2017, 10:53:31 am
Quote from: Yada on April 20, 2017, 10:26:09 am
Jules,

You have fresh sheets on the futon for my stay this weekend?
Depends. You have a spare ticket for Saturday?

He asked about sheets, not diapers.
I don't want to go into graphic detail but let's just say Yada is a very messy house guest.

I'll remember that when he asks to crash at my place the night of the Fair Winds anniversary party.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 20, 2017, 04:46:59 pm
Quote from: Bagley on April 19, 2017, 10:53:18 am
Any reports on the Lagunitas Waldo?

It appears to be on tap at Gilly's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 20, 2017, 04:48:33 pm
Good shitter read.

https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/cbc-drink-diary-jace-gonnerman

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2017, 04:53:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 20, 2017, 04:48:33 pm
Good shitter read.

https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/cbc-drink-diary-jace-gonnerman



That Jace kid seems like a good egg, but he really doesn't hold a candle to Engert in the fashion department, does he?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2017, 02:50:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 20, 2017, 04:48:33 pm
Good shitter read.

https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/cbc-drink-diary-jace-gonnerman


can't believe one of the best beer fests comes to dc...and it's the week I'm out of town

it should come back around to DC in four or five years.

that was salt in the wound
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 21, 2017, 02:53:55 pm
Quote from: good ole SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on April 21, 2017, 02:50:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 20, 2017, 04:48:33 pm
Good shitter read.

https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/cbc-drink-diary-jace-gonnerman


can't believe one of the best beer fests comes to dc...and it's the week I'm out of town

it should come back around to DC in four or five years.

that was salt in the wound

It was during Passover to boot. Oh and I also had pneumonia. Double whammy. Had my first beer in nearly two weeks last night and it was a very tasty Sip.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 21, 2017, 02:59:10 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on April 21, 2017, 02:53:55 pm
It was during Passover to boot.
Are you alleging the organizers are antisemitic?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2017, 03:05:09 pm
Quote from: good ole SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on April 21, 2017, 02:50:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 20, 2017, 04:48:33 pm
Good shitter read.

https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/cbc-drink-diary-jace-gonnerman


can't believe one of the best beer fests comes to dc...and it's the week I'm out of town

it should come back around to DC in four or five years.

that was salt in the wound

Not sure if it's #fakenews, I was really drunk, or if I'm just making this up, but someone said it's always here every year following the election, which would make sense as the last time I drank that many days in a row was the spring of 2013.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 22, 2017, 07:33:57 am
Quote from: Yada on April 17, 2017, 11:08:28 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 17, 2017, 09:51:00 am
Quote from: brennser on April 14, 2017, 03:54:50 pm
#cbc17 #liverfailure  >:(

highlights?

Quote from: Yada on April 15, 2017, 09:12:01 am
Quote from: brennser on April 14, 2017, 03:54:50 pm
#cbc17 #liverfailure  >:(

X2

What a week.

ditto?


In no particular order other than my BOTW being listed as #1.

1.   Fuzzy by Side Project (just absolute perfection, wow)
2.   Jammy by Side Project/Casey collaboration
3.   Derivation #6 by Side Project
4.   DFPF by J. Wakefield (possibly in second place for the week)
5.   Albatross by Brew Gentlemen
6.   Hop Showers by Other Half
7.   Trouble in Paradise by 3 Stars (undoubtedly the best 3 Stars beers I?ve ever had)
8.   Coffee Cinnamon B-Bomb by Fremont
9.   Persica by Crooked Stave
10.   Wicked Juicy by Cellar Maker


heres mine - roughly speaking as there were way way too many beers that week

1.   Fuzzy by Side Project (just absolute perfection, wow - tasted even better when they brought us a free pour)
2.   Swish - Bissel Brothers
3.   Rusty Nail by Freemont
4.   Orange Dreamsicle by J. Wakefield
5.   Derivation #6 by Side Project
6.   Bourbon Barrel Double Barrel Aged Expedition Stout by Bells
7.   Apple Brandy Barrel Maple Fayston Stout by Lawsons
8.   BA Dark Star by Freemont
9.   Triple Dry Hopepd Hard in the Paint by The Answer
10.   Blackbeards Rum Barrel Aged Bear Hug by Bells

Honorable mentions to many of the IPAs at the MP IPA fest, Foam Brewing,
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 24, 2017, 10:39:10 am
Veil party went off without a hitch... incredibly well organized, tons of beer, crappy weather though.

I still think The Answer is putting out the best beer in Richmond IMO. Drank myself silly there.

Admittedly, thought the beer at the party was just ok. White Ferrari and the Gose were the big highlights for me. I thought the stouts were pretty overrated and took advantage of the current demand and traded for 3 loons within 24 hours, so that was a big plus.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 12:04:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 24, 2017, 10:39:10 am
Veil party went off without a hitch... incredibly well organized, tons of beer, crappy weather though.

I still think The Answer is putting out the best beer in Richmond IMO. Drank myself silly there.

Admittedly, thought the beer at the party was just ok. White Ferrari and the Gose were the big highlights for me. I thought the stouts were pretty overrated and took advantage of the current demand and traded for 3 loons within 24 hours, so that was a big plus.

Love the beer at the Answer, just wish the space was a little nicer. Or more cheery. Or not in a stripmall. Or something. Same goes for Mekong.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 24, 2017, 12:14:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 12:04:25 pm
wish the space was a little nicer. Or more cheery. Or not in a stripmall. Or something. Same goes for Mekong.
He tried opening something up in the Fan (which is a neighborhood that is a little nicer, more cheery, and not in a strip mall) and it was out of business in like 6 months. I think he sort of poisoned his own well a bit, though, since he didn't change the name of the establishment from what was there before.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 12:22:53 pm
Also, don't sleep on Triple Crossing. The last time I was there they had a beer called Green Dreams that may be better than any of the hoppy offerings I've had at Veil or Answer. And the pizza at the Fulton location is also pretty tasty.

Although it appears that Green Dreams is "every evolving". Hey breweries, if you're going to change the hop profile in your beer, please give it a different name. Otherwise, it's confusing to is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 24, 2017, 12:31:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 12:22:53 pm
Also, don't sleep on Triple Crossing. The last time I was there they had a beer called Green Dreams that may be better than any of the hoppy offerings I've had at Veil or Answer. And the pizza at the Fulton location is also pretty tasty.

Although it appears that Green Dreams is "every evolving". Hey breweries, if you're going to change the hop profile in your beer, please give it a different name. Otherwise, it's confusing to is.
I have not really enjoyed anything I got at TC other than a New England IPA whose name I forgot. I've given it a fairshake since the Fulton Hill location is, literally, next hill over from my neighborhood and they do flights and have pizza but despite a wide-selection, nothing ever really moved me I got there. Cool locations though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 12:38:58 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 24, 2017, 12:31:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 12:22:53 pm
Also, don't sleep on Triple Crossing. The last time I was there they had a beer called Green Dreams that may be better than any of the hoppy offerings I've had at Veil or Answer. And the pizza at the Fulton location is also pretty tasty.

Although it appears that Green Dreams is "every evolving". Hey breweries, if you're going to change the hop profile in your beer, please give it a different name. Otherwise, it's confusing to is.
I have not really enjoyed anything I got at TC other than a New England IPA whose name I forgot. I've given it a fairshake since the Fulton Hill location is, literally, next hill over from my neighborhood and they do flights and have pizza but despite a wide-selection, nothing ever really moved me I got there. Cool locations though.

The Green Dreams I speak of was a NE style DIPA. It's possible it could be the one you had. I also has a Berliner Weisse called Waxing Poetic Mango Passionfruit which was very good, good enough to make me grab a four pack. And will likely be even better from a can on a hot day. The others were ok to good (i.e. nothing I'd seek out again).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 24, 2017, 12:58:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 12:22:53 pm
Although it appears that Green Dreams is "every evolving". Hey breweries, if you're going to change the hop profile in your beer, please give it a different name. Otherwise, it's confusing to is.

there is a simple reason why breweries don't want to rebrand every time they change a recipe: regulatory approval.  getting your labels approved by the TTB is a drawn-out pain in the ass.  going through the whole process all over again because you decided to change your percentage of citra vs. mosaic is a non-starter.

in other news, our beloved heady topper is "every evolving".  they're tweaking the hop bill all the time, and i've had some very different versions of the beer over the years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 01:04:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 24, 2017, 12:58:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 12:22:53 pm
Although it appears that Green Dreams is "every evolving". Hey breweries, if you're going to change the hop profile in your beer, please give it a different name. Otherwise, it's confusing to is.

there is a simple reason why breweries don't want to rebrand every time they change a recipe: regulatory approval.  getting your labels approved by the TTB is a drawn-out pain in the ass.  going through the whole process all over again because you decided to change your percentage of citra vs. mosaic is a non-starter.

in other news, our beloved heady topper is "every evolving".  they're tweaking the hop bill all the time, and i've had some very different versions of the beer over the years.

Ah, I see. Makes sense.

Speaking of the Alchemist, we had our first can of Focal Banger at Churchkey on SAturday. Side by side with small pours of Lawson's Sip of Sunshine and Melvin's Asterisk, both DIPA's. And while the two latter were both great beers, the single IPA Focal Banger was remarkably better. Man that Kimmich knows how to make hoppy beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 24, 2017, 01:52:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 24, 2017, 12:04:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 24, 2017, 10:39:10 am
Veil party went off without a hitch... incredibly well organized, tons of beer, crappy weather though.

I still think The Answer is putting out the best beer in Richmond IMO. Drank myself silly there.

Admittedly, thought the beer at the party was just ok. White Ferrari and the Gose were the big highlights for me. I thought the stouts were pretty overrated and took advantage of the current demand and traded for 3 loons within 24 hours, so that was a big plus.

Love the beer at the Answer, just wish the space was a little nicer. Or more cheery. Or not in a stripmall. Or something. Same goes for Mekong.

Hmmm... I don't find it bad at all. I've never went in Mekong, but I have zero complaints about The Answer. My favorite style of cuisine with A+ beers. I will say their hoppy offerings were quite meh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 25, 2017, 02:38:52 pm
yada will be  >:(

http://beerstreetjournal.com/founders-devil-dancer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 26, 2017, 09:10:35 am
So I had Heady Topper this weekend. Along with the Super Session #2 and Sunshine IPA from Lawsons. And this really nice IPA from a Maine Brewery. I really don't get the cult of Heady Topper. It was too sugary for me. I liked the other 3 much better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 26, 2017, 09:12:45 am
Lunch from Maine Beer Company. It was delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 26, 2017, 02:49:15 pm
had Cascade Noyaux last night, at Bier Baron.  highly recommended, too bad the price is stupid (even by Cascade's already stupid standards).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 26, 2017, 03:03:15 pm
deece little porch bomber. #thanksveil

(http://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23963/239633009288478a200d72704b4f5940082e33e9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 27, 2017, 01:45:29 pm
Quote from: good ole SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on April 14, 2017, 11:01:00 pm
Florida really has some killer brews, the options are just off the charts
it is funny how some restaurants still just have the bud/corona offerings when some great beer is being made just miles away.

Civil Society (Jupiter)- their Fresher than Fresh on tap...delish!  pretty close to the Veil and Aslin IMO



I had their Pulp last night at Smoke and Barrel and it really helped me deal with the loss of Eddie Murphy. Aslin is releasing a collaboration ipa with them (in cans) this Saturday (along with a  collaboration sour with Stillwater, also in cans).

I spent the first five years of my life in Jupiter, and though I barely remember it and have never been back, will always have a soft spot for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 27, 2017, 01:47:09 pm
Have any of you considered the fact that girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider while boys go to Mars to get fast cars?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 27, 2017, 01:47:54 pm
Man runs into burning building twice to save beer, police say (http://www.wpxi.com/news/trending-now/man-runs-into-burning-building-twice-to-save-beer-police-say/515977722)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 27, 2017, 01:54:00 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 27, 2017, 01:47:09 pm
Have any of you considered the fact that girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider while boys go to Mars to get fast cars?

Someday we will look back at this post and identify it as the moment the board officially jumped the shark.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 27, 2017, 01:55:24 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on April 27, 2017, 01:54:00 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 27, 2017, 01:47:09 pm
Have any of you considered the fact that girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider while boys go to Mars to get fast cars?

Someday we will look back at this post and identify it as the moment the board officially jumped the shark.
Sounds like another (META: User-curated) Hall of Fame post for Julian!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2017, 02:09:20 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 27, 2017, 01:55:24 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on April 27, 2017, 01:54:00 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 27, 2017, 01:47:09 pm
Have any of you considered the fact that girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider while boys go to Mars to get fast cars?

Someday we will look back at this post and identify it as the moment the board officially jumped the shark.
Sounds like another (META: User-curated) Hall of Fame post for Julian!!!!!!!!
hall of shame is more like it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 27, 2017, 02:13:24 pm
Quote from: good ole SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on April 27, 2017, 02:09:20 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 27, 2017, 01:55:24 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on April 27, 2017, 01:54:00 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 27, 2017, 01:47:09 pm
Have any of you considered the fact that girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider while boys go to Mars to get fast cars?

Someday we will look back at this post and identify it as the moment the board officially jumped the shark.
Sounds like another (META: User-curated) Hall of Fame post for Julian!!!!!!!!
hall of shame is more like it
Have you considered the fact that I'm rubber and you're glue ergo whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2017, 02:14:48 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 27, 2017, 01:47:54 pm
Man runs into burning building twice to save beer, police say (http://www.wpxi.com/news/trending-now/man-runs-into-burning-building-twice-to-save-beer-police-say/515977722)
that should have ended with a Darwin award
going in to a burning building to get 2 cans of bud ice
that's not even beer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 27, 2017, 02:24:55 pm
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on April 27, 2017, 02:13:24 pm
Have you considered the fact that I'm rubber and you're glue ergo whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you?

The ergo is what saved it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 28, 2017, 04:06:57 pm
WF foggy bottom has sip of sunshine on tap.  it may or may not be amazing, because i may or may not have had some with lunch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 28, 2017, 04:48:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 28, 2017, 04:06:57 pm
WF foggy bottom has sip of sunshine on tap.  it may or may not be amazing, because i may or may not have had some with lunch.

Not too shabby but not as good as Focal Banger.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 28, 2017, 04:57:03 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 28, 2017, 04:48:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 28, 2017, 04:06:57 pm
WF foggy bottom has sip of sunshine on tap.  it may or may not be amazing, because i may or may not have had some with lunch.

Not too shabby but not as good as Focal Banger.

this version on tap may or may not have been more amazing than fresh cans that i definitely have had in vermont.  just sayin' (or not sayin').
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 28, 2017, 05:10:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 28, 2017, 04:57:03 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 28, 2017, 04:48:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 28, 2017, 04:06:57 pm
WF foggy bottom has sip of sunshine on tap.  it may or may not be amazing, because i may or may not have had some with lunch.

Not too shabby but not as good as Focal Banger.

this version on tap may or may not have been more amazing than fresh cans that i definitely have had in vermont.  just sayin' (or not sayin').

Am I right in guessing this might be your last day at work here? If so, hope you had two!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 28, 2017, 10:26:00 pm
it was not my last day, another week to go, but i may or may not have had two anyway.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 29, 2017, 11:40:20 am
Find the Best Nearby Cities for Craft Beer and Microbrews With This Tool  (http://lifehacker.com/find-the-best-nearby-cities-for-craft-beer-and-microbre-1794749036)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 30, 2017, 10:13:04 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 29, 2017, 11:40:20 am
Find the Best Nearby Cities for Craft Beer and Microbrews With This Tool  (http://lifehacker.com/find-the-best-nearby-cities-for-craft-beer-and-microbre-1794749036)
this is a very cool site

the lifehacker is just link to https://pudding.cool/2017/04/beer/
very cool "Visual Essays" on random stuff that he can use data sets to explain what actually happens not what the actual quality is
Crowdsourcing the Definition of "Punk" (https://pudding.cool/2017/03/punk/)

Classic line..
I?m reducing its definition to what a broad, young, digital audience thinks it entails, ignoring whatever historians, music critics, or Wikipedia believe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2017, 08:49:15 am
BrewDog Gives Its Staff A Week?s Paid ?Pawternity? Leave (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brewdog-puppy-paternity-leave_us_58a6de90e4b07602ad539975)

come on 'merica, the Scotts are making us look bad
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 01, 2017, 09:03:19 am
Quote from: just old SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on May 01, 2017, 08:49:15 am
BrewDog Gives Its Staff A Week?s Paid ?Pawternity? Leave (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brewdog-puppy-paternity-leave_us_58a6de90e4b07602ad539975)

come on 'merica, the Scotts are making us look bad

I'm an animal loving vegetarian, but it's disgusting how some people put animals on the same level as children.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 01, 2017, 09:10:19 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 01, 2017, 09:03:19 am
I'm an animal tolerant vegetarian, but it's disgusting how some people put animals on the same level as children.
EDITED slightly, but agree 100%.

I lost a friendship a few years back when someone said "I would swerve and hit another car before I hit a dog in the road" and I could not keep my disgust off my face or shut my mouth when called out on it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 01, 2017, 09:17:05 am
Some folks certainly go overboard with their pets but I think that's a great idea.

The mutternity, that is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on May 01, 2017, 09:37:27 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 28, 2017, 04:06:57 pm
WF foggy bottom has sip of sunshine on tap.  it may or may not be amazing, because i may or may not have had some with lunch.

Good to know!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:43:26 am
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchase-wicked-weed-brewing


Looks like we all have to hate wicked weed now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on May 03, 2017, 09:45:01 am
i am not sure . . . is that a "ugh, fuck" story line, or a "nice, i can finally get all their stuff now" storyline.  i tend, to favor the former.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:47:49 am
Quote from: herman otto on May 03, 2017, 09:45:01 am
i am not sure . . . is that a "ugh, fuck" story line, or a "nice, i can finally get all their stuff now" storyline.  i tend, to favor the former.

herman, it's very admirable of you to come back and face your demons as well as owning up to your old idenity... unlike some legends who return and try to act like they're some random new boardie that just stumbled upon the forum.

Re: your question above, most people will probably say ,"ugh, fuck." Also, WW is already pretty easy to find through the DMV area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on May 03, 2017, 09:56:58 am
even though i don't drink, i will have some excellent beer now and again.  i worshipped wicked weed when i was in NC last time and found a town where nice restaurants served it, beer stores had shelves of it, and the things i tasted were incredible.  but lately, i tried a couple of things, like napoleon complex and French toast and freak of nature . . . which i thought were ok.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 03, 2017, 09:57:06 am
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:47:49 am
herman, it's very admirable of you to come back and face your demons as well as owning up to your old idenity... unlike some legends who return and try to act like they're some random new boardie that just stumbled upon the forum.
To be fair, if Walkie was trying to conceal his identity, how long do you think that'd work? He's pretty distinct. I feel we'd know within 10 posts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on May 03, 2017, 09:57:21 am
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:43:26 am
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchase-wicked-weed-brewing


Looks like we all have to hate wicked weed now.

Considering that the current taps at the Red Porch err Bud Light Loft are all InBev, maybe this means we?ll see some Garçon De Ferme on tap at Nats Park soon #wishfulthinking
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 03, 2017, 09:58:00 am
I had some Bell's Mars which apparently is the one thing in that planet series that Bell's decided to re-release (or so I'm told) and that is Goooooooooood.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2017, 10:22:28 am
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:43:26 am
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchase-wicked-weed-brewing


Looks like we all have to hate wicked weed now.
Quote from: herman otto on May 03, 2017, 09:45:01 am
i am not sure . . . is that a "ugh, fuck" story line, or a "nice, i can finally get all their stuff now" storyline.  i tend, to favor the former.

this definitely gets an "ugh, fuck" from me.

even if (and it's a big if) the quality of WW's beer remains the same, AB has just acquired another marquis "craft" brand.  they now have more ammo for muscling out all other craft beer brands.  they can strongly incentivize and/or force retailers to carry only AB products - "you don't need those other small craft breweries, we have WW!  and GI, and Elysian, and...  plus, we'll give you a discount on Bud Light if you take that other independent beer off your shelves..."  the little guy can't compete with that.

craft beer is paying the price for its popularity.  it was gaining market share, the giants were losing, this is how they're fighting back... it was inevitable.

dollars-to-doughnuts that in 13 months, the Dickinson brothers will be moving on to "another project."  it's scripted at this point: upon sale to Big Beer, the founders of the purchased brewery claim that this deal is the best thing ever, it will open new doors for their company, and OF COURSE they will stay on because they believe in this sale and the future of the brewery.  and just a little over a year after the sale, they skip away because sticking around for 12 months was all they were contractually bound to. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2017, 10:26:00 am
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on May 03, 2017, 09:57:06 am
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:47:49 am
herman, it's very admirable of you to come back and face your demons as well as owning up to your old idenity... unlike some legends who return and try to act like they're some random new boardie that just stumbled upon the forum.
To be fair, if Walkie was trying to conceal his identity, how long do you think that'd work? He's pretty distinct. I feel we'd know within 10 posts.

Oh I agree... just like I knew killsally was back after approximately one post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2017, 10:34:00 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 03, 2017, 10:22:28 am
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:43:26 am
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchase-wicked-weed-brewing


Looks like we all have to hate wicked weed now.
Quote from: herman otto on May 03, 2017, 09:45:01 am
i am not sure . . . is that a "ugh, fuck" story line, or a "nice, i can finally get all their stuff now" storyline.  i tend, to favor the former.

this definitely gets an "ugh, fuck" from me.

even if (and it's a big if) the quality of WW's beer remains the same, AB has just acquired another marquis "craft" brand.  they now have more ammo for muscling out all other craft beer brands.  they can strongly incentivize and/or force retailers to carry only AB products - "you don't need those other small craft breweries, we have WW!  and GI, and Elysian, and...  plus, we'll give you a discount on Bud Light if you take that other independent beer off your shelves..."  the little guy can't compete with that.

craft beer is paying the price for its popularity.  it was gaining market share, the giants were losing, this is how they're fighting back... it was inevitable.

dollars-to-doughnuts that in 13 months, the Dickinson brothers will be moving on to "another project."  it's scripted at this point: upon sale to Big Beer, the founders of the purchased brewery claim that this deal is the best thing ever, it will open new doors for their company, and OF COURSE they will stay on because they believe in this sale and the future of the brewery.  and just a little over a year after the sale, they skip away because sticking around for 12 months was all they were contractually bound to. 

I think I've made this post somewhere in this here thread at some point, but the easiest solution is to just not buy beer at local stores. Other than High Life/Rolling Rock, I can't really recall the last time I purchased beer at a market. I try to buy direct from the source if at all possible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 03, 2017, 10:36:22 am
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 10:26:00 am
Quote from: Julian, Coastal ELITE on May 03, 2017, 09:57:06 am
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:47:49 am
herman, it's very admirable of you to come back and face your demons as well as owning up to your old idenity... unlike some legends who return and try to act like they're some random new boardie that just stumbled upon the forum.
To be fair, if Walkie was trying to conceal his identity, how long do you think that'd work? He's pretty distinct. I feel we'd know within 10 posts.

Oh I agree... just like I knew killsally was back after approximately one post.
Yeah, agreed. It'd require a Julian-esque level of intelligence, wit, commitment, and pure boarding skill to carry off a duplicitious, concealed account for a long period of time. The average boardie -- hell, the average Hall of Fame boardie -- just simply doesn't have the goods.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 03, 2017, 10:54:09 am
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 10:34:00 am
I try to buy direct from the source if at all possible.
while I try when I can, that is seriously a difficult thing to do for the average beer nerd
While some seriously good options exist in the DMV area, doing a 90 min round trip to get 3 crowlers is not really an option for a Working/Family man


But with that said, I'm glad there are shops like Dominion Wine and Beer and the Arlington Brew shop with drive-able access to get some fresh tasty suds (both also get great rotating stuff on their growler lines too)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 03, 2017, 11:19:26 am
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18216887_10155441148759574_7371767296041234568_o.jpg?oh=e5c2b8bf13b7defb97421a7ae1005e85&oe=59763891)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:44:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:43:26 am
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchase-wicked-weed-brewing


Looks like we all have to hate wicked weed now.

I only got to wear my t-shirt once. $20 for one wear. That's as bad a value as their overrated sours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:46:02 pm
Quote from: just old SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on May 03, 2017, 11:19:26 am
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18216887_10155441148759574_7371767296041234568_o.jpg?oh=e5c2b8bf13b7defb97421a7ae1005e85&oe=59763891)

Now there's a nice poster highlighting the mediocrity of the local beer scene.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2017, 01:53:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:44:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:43:26 am
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchase-wicked-weed-brewing


Looks like we all have to hate wicked weed now.

I only got to wear my t-shirt once. $20 for one wear. That's as bad a value as their overrated sours.

LOL... the hate already begins.

P.S. Their sours are the only beers they have worth drinking.

Edit: Space's review of Wicked Weed just a few weeks back.

Funkatorium (Asheville, NC) All Wicked Weed sours, all the time. Informative tour, a little awkward as we were the only three people on the tour. I think I tried maybe 14 different tasters over the course of two visits. All very good, many very excellent. Great bottle shop (only Wicked Weed beers)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:59:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 01:53:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:44:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:43:26 am
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchase-wicked-weed-brewing


Looks like we all have to hate wicked weed now.

I only got to wear my t-shirt once. $20 for one wear. That's as bad a value as their overrated sours.

LOL... the hate already begins.

P.S. Their sours are the only beers they have worth drinking.

Edit: Space's review of Wicked Weed just a few weeks back.

Funkatorium (Asheville, NC) All Wicked Weed sours, all the time. Informative tour, a little awkward as we were the only three people on the tour. I think I tried maybe 14 different tasters over the course of two visits. All very good, many very excellent. Great bottle shop (only Wicked Weed beers)

Yeah, well that all just changed, bucko.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:02:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:59:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 01:53:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:44:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:43:26 am
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchase-wicked-weed-brewing


Looks like we all have to hate wicked weed now.

I only got to wear my t-shirt once. $20 for one wear. That's as bad a value as their overrated sours.

LOL... the hate already begins.

P.S. Their sours are the only beers they have worth drinking.

Edit: Space's review of Wicked Weed just a few weeks back.

Funkatorium (Asheville, NC) All Wicked Weed sours, all the time. Informative tour, a little awkward as we were the only three people on the tour. I think I tried maybe 14 different tasters over the course of two visits. All very good, many very excellent. Great bottle shop (only Wicked Weed beers)

Yeah, well that all just changed, bucko.

So because they were just aquired, the beer has gone from very good/excellent to overrated? I will say at least inbev finally bought an actual good brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2017, 02:07:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:02:48 pm
I will say at least inbev finally bought an actual good brewery.

what about Elysium?

and Goose Island is all over the place -they have uninteresting stuff for the mainstream(honkers, their IPA, etc) but they also have some excellent offerings: BCBS, their sours, their belgians...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 02:09:48 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:02:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:59:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 01:53:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:44:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 09:43:26 am
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-purchase-wicked-weed-brewing


Looks like we all have to hate wicked weed now.

I only got to wear my t-shirt once. $20 for one wear. That's as bad a value as their overrated sours.

LOL... the hate already begins.

P.S. Their sours are the only beers they have worth drinking.

Edit: Space's review of Wicked Weed just a few weeks back.

Funkatorium (Asheville, NC) All Wicked Weed sours, all the time. Informative tour, a little awkward as we were the only three people on the tour. I think I tried maybe 14 different tasters over the course of two visits. All very good, many very excellent. Great bottle shop (only Wicked Weed beers)

Yeah, well that all just changed, bucko.

So because they were just aquired, the beer has gone from very good/excellent to overrated? I will say at least inbev finally bought an actual good brewery.

Do I need to write /S every time?  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:10:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 03, 2017, 02:07:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:02:48 pm
I will say at least inbev finally bought an actual good brewery.

what about Elysium?

and Goose Island is all over the place -they have uninteresting stuff for the mainstream(honkers, their IPA, etc) but they also have some excellent offerings: BCBS, their sours, their belgians...

Can't say I like Elysian other than maybe Space Dust (I think that's what it's called).

Re: Goose Island, I'd say the bad beers outweigh the goods, but yeah, I'll drink a Lolita any day of the week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 02:13:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:10:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 03, 2017, 02:07:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:02:48 pm
I will say at least inbev finally bought an actual good brewery.

what about Elysium?

and Goose Island is all over the place -they have uninteresting stuff for the mainstream(honkers, their IPA, etc) but they also have some excellent offerings: BCBS, their sours, their belgians...

Can't say I like Elysian other than maybe Space Dust (I think that's what it's called).

Re: Goose Island, I'd say the bad beers outweigh the goods, but yeah, I'll drink a Lolita any day of the week.

Aren't you guys forgetting Devil's Backbone? People like to ramble on about how many GABF awards they have won in the boring beers categories.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:15:56 pm
What does /S mean?

No, not a fan of the Bone either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:20:15 pm
https://austin.eater.com/2017/5/3/15532202/jester-king-brewery-wicked-weed-ab-inbev-beer-collaboration
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 02:20:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 03, 2017, 02:15:56 pm
What does /S mean?

No, not a fan of the Bone either.

Sarcasm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 02:21:58 pm
Wicked Weed was started with corporate $$ anyway.

From the BA thread:

I've lived in Asheville for 3 years and have seen a decline in respect for Wicked Weed amongst the locals simply because of the company's financial origins and its rapid growth that, while bringing tons of tourist dollars to the town, doesn't seem to garner any long-term community. While breweries like Burial and Hi-Wire are taking it slow and steady and creating more events and projects designed to generate sustainable growth within the community, it seems like WW has only really been concerned with the bottom line since just about day one.


Regarding their financial origins:

COO of Gunthy Renker (aka Proactiv) has been their primary financier.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 03, 2017, 02:28:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:46:02 pm
Now there's a nice poster highlighting the mediocrity of the local beer scene.
Ocelot and Beltway are good
Adroit has put out some very decent beers too...but yes the other 15 are not remarkable


So what's your list of the best 5 breweries in 90 min drive from DC

Aslin
Veil
Stillwater
Ocelot
Bluejacket

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 02:46:57 pm
Quote from: just old SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on May 03, 2017, 02:28:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 01:46:02 pm
Now there's a nice poster highlighting the mediocrity of the local beer scene.
Ocelot and Beltway are good
Adroit has put out some very decent beers too...but yes the other 15 are not remarkable


So what's your list of the best 5 breweries in 90 min drive from DC

Aslin
Veil
Stillwater
Ocelot
Bluejacket



Does Beltway do anything remarkable on their own? I mean I know some outstanding Grimm beers are brewed there, but what about actual Beltway beers?

And does Stillwater truly count as local beer given its gypsy brewing status?

It seems like one would be hard pressed to get from DC to Richmond in 90 mins most times of day, but if you're going to include Richmond, you have to include The Answer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 03, 2017, 02:53:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 03, 2017, 02:46:57 pm
It seems like one would be hard pressed to get from DC to Richmond in 90 mins most times of day,
To legitimately go from downtown DC to downtown Richmond in 90 minutes would involve a phalanx of police cars escorting you and clearing the roads ahead. I've never gotten DC to RVA in 90 minutes even in the middle of the night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 03, 2017, 02:59:26 pm
I have heard that a group of teenagers can make it from southern Montgomery County to Doswell, VA in well under 90 minutes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on May 03, 2017, 04:12:32 pm
The intewebs is really aghast over this news, huh?

Remember when Constellation bought Ballast Point and Lagunitas sold 50% of their ownership (despite the owner never claiming he would never sell out?). Well guess what - Sculpin and Victory at Sea are still excellent beers.

Meanwhile Lagunitas is still churning out hits like Born Again, Waldo, and High West-ified Imperial Coffee Stout... beers that are nationally distributed and easy to purchase (for a very affordable price point, I might add).

I don't know, I could really care less. In the end it's a larger footprint for a brewery that makes some great sours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 04, 2017, 08:55:30 am
Walkie...I know you aren't drinking any more
but you should pick up a can for display
or have a case on hand when the boyz come over for a card game

Queer your beer!


(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x296/18194950_10155298773909222_6680190748096558971_n.jpg?oh=c9e6a792f6f0bfdad67d020552a31d0b&oe=597FF5D4)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2017, 09:00:12 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 03, 2017, 04:12:32 pm
The intewebs is really aghast over this news, huh?

Remember when Constellation bought Ballast Point and Lagunitas sold 50% of their ownership (despite the owner never claiming he would never sell out?). Well guess what - Sculpin and Victory at Sea are still excellent beers.

Meanwhile Lagunitas is still churning out hits like Born Again, Waldo, and High West-ified Imperial Coffee Stout... beers that are nationally distributed and easy to purchase (for a very affordable price point, I might add).

I don't know, I could really care less. In the end it's a larger footprint for a brewery that makes some great sours.

To play devil's advocate...

And meanwhile other smaller, independent, up and coming breweries can't get tap or shelf space because the companies that own Ballast Point and Lagunitas make deals so that Ballast Point and Lagunitas can have more shelf and tap space.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2017, 09:08:51 am
Quote from: just old SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on May 04, 2017, 08:55:30 am
Walkie...I know you aren't drinking any more
but you should pick up a can for display
or have a case on hand when the boyz come over for a card game

Queer your beer!


(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x296/18194950_10155298773909222_6680190748096558971_n.jpg?oh=c9e6a792f6f0bfdad67d020552a31d0b&oe=597FF5D4)

Bruce an Jeff will pick you up at 10!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on May 04, 2017, 12:35:16 pm
(https://media.giphy.com/media/MyJnnv1K9PhjG/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 04, 2017, 01:21:14 pm
^I can't stop focusing on the one hand he is holding up
is it me or does it look weird without the thumb?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2017, 01:30:39 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on May 03, 2017, 04:12:32 pm
The intewebs is really aghast over this news, huh?

Remember when Constellation bought Ballast Point and Lagunitas sold 50% of their ownership (despite the owner never claiming he would never sell out?). Well guess what - Sculpin and Victory at Sea are still excellent beers.

Meanwhile Lagunitas is still churning out hits like Born Again, Waldo, and High West-ified Imperial Coffee Stout... beers that are nationally distributed and easy to purchase (for a very affordable price point, I might add).

I don't know, I could really care less. In the end it's a larger footprint for a brewery that makes some great sours.

Now 100%.

HEINEKEN Acquires Remaining Stake in Lagunitas Brewing Company

http://www.theheinekencompany.com/media/media-releases/press-releases/2017/05/2101895
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 05, 2017, 09:37:46 am
Five more have dropped out since this image was created:

(http://i67.tinypic.com/23hqa07.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 05, 2017, 10:49:32 am
Wait.  Is Ja Rule in charge of this too?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 05, 2017, 04:50:13 pm
That list has now grown to 40 dropouts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2017, 05:13:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 05, 2017, 04:50:13 pm
That list has now grown to 40 dropouts.

Imma guess that's gonna get cancelled.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 07, 2017, 06:42:54 pm
Penn Druid is making a rare tap take over in balston next week (w/ right proper and stone)

Join us on Wednesday, May 10th for a night of revelry with our friends from Stone, Right Proper and Pen Druid. On this evening, we?ll feature 15 drafts from the trio of breweries, including their brand-new collaboration beer, Soused.

Brewed at Right Proper - Brookland, Soused is made with juniper-infused water and a Nordic farmhouse yeast strain. Aggressively hopped with Mosaic and Comet, this IPA has huge notes of sticky orange, mango and dank juniper.

In addition to Soused, you don?t want to miss this rare opportunity to try 4 different beers from Pen Druid. Located in Sperryville, VA, Pen Druid?s wood fired, oak mashed, native yeast fermented ales are rarely served outside of their brewery.

Other standouts from the evening?s list include Right Proper White Bicycles, a rustic Witbier brewed with black limes and Mandarina Bavaria hops; and Stone Jindia Pale Ale, a Double IPA infused with ginger and juniper.

There is no admission fee for this event. All featured drafts will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. pours.

The ?Soused? Release Party Draft List
Right Proper, Stone & Pen Druid Soused (Nordic IPA w/ Juniper)
Right Proper Being There (Kellerbier)
Right Proper Haxan (Robust Porter)
Right Proper Astral Weeks (Farmhouse Pale Ale)
Right Proper Songlines (Dry-Hopped Farmhouse Ale w/ Galaxy Hops)
Right Proper White Bicycles (Rustic Witbier w/ Black Limes)
Stone Enjoy By 05.29.17 IPA (Imperial IPA)
Stone Alt By Myself (Altbier; Collaboration w/ DC Brau)
Stone Jindia Pale Ale (Imperial IPA w/ Ginger, Juniper, Lemon & Lime)
Stone Encore 08.08.08 Vertical Epic (Belgian IPA)
Stone Encore 6th Anniversary Porter (Oak BA Imperial Smoked Porter)
Pen Druid Pluto (French Oak BA Brown Ale)
Pen Druid The Golden Swan (Farmhouse Blond)
Pen Druid Earth (Hoppy Farmhouse Ale)
Pen Druid Sun People (Hungarian Oak BA Sour Blond Ale; Aged 1 Year)


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on May 08, 2017, 12:32:52 am
I, just drank two beers.

#theend
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2017, 09:54:12 am
Quote from: herman otto on May 08, 2017, 12:32:52 am
I, just drank two beers.

#theend

YOU OK BRAH?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 08, 2017, 11:11:06 am
Manor Hill Dust Up and Waredaca Baymore- two very tasty local brews!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2017, 11:31:24 am
I've been twice to Owen's Ordinary and it's been terrible to say the least both times. Funny enough, they had a couple of Cantillon kegs last week. I called this weekend to see if they were still on tap. The conversation went like this.

Yada: "Hi, I was wondering if you still have the Cantillon kegs on tap?"

Owen's: "Ummmm.... what is the name of the brewery?"

Yada: "Cantillon, you had two kegs on earlier this week for the Belgian event."

Owen's: "Ummm.... Hold on one second please.
2nd Owen's Employee: "Hi, can I help you?"

Yada: "DO YOU HAVE CANTILLON ON DRAFT"

2nd Owen's Employee: "Ummm... I don't think we have that beer on draft here"

Yada: "click"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on May 08, 2017, 12:18:37 pm
Employee -  "I don't get paid enough to give a fuck what you are calling about.  Why don't you get your lazy ass down here and see if we have it."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 08, 2017, 12:34:34 pm
Is Cantillon really that amazing? Or is it the fact that it's rare around these parts that make it amazing?

Recently, Sweetcell was kind enough to share a Cantillon or two with a group of people of people, as well as his own sours. And I have to say, the Cantillons weren't really any better than Sweetcell's homebrewed stuff to me.

Yes, that's a compliment to Sweetcell who brews some excellent beer, but I'm also saying sometimes I don't get the Cantillon fuss.

Still, I'll be grabbing some when I'm in Italy next month. Better value there.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2017, 12:37:49 pm
Quote from: herman otto on May 08, 2017, 12:18:37 pm
Employee -  "I don't get paid enough to give a fuck what you are calling about.  Why don't you get your lazy ass down here and see if we have it."

Which is why it's a god awful establishment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2017, 12:41:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 08, 2017, 12:34:34 pm
Is Cantillon really that amazing? Or is it the fact that it's rare around these parts that make it amazing?

Recently, Sweetcell was kind enough to share a Cantillon or two with a group of people of people, as well as his own sours. And I have to say, the Cantillons weren't really any better than Sweetcell's homebrewed stuff to me.

Yes, that's a compliment to Sweetcell who brews some excellent beer, but I'm also saying sometimes I don't get the Cantillon fuss.

Still, I'll be grabbing some when I'm in Italy next month. Better value there.  ;D

Depends which bottle(s) you're drinking...

Fou Foune is sperm your pants worthy, however their regular Gueze is pretty meh... They have numerous styles, vintages, etc. so it's hard to say... but the two kegs Owen's Ordinary did have on draft were worth seeking out, hence my call.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 08, 2017, 12:46:10 pm
The first time I had Cantillon was at the Brugs Beertje in Bruges five years ago. This was before I had developed a taste for sour beer.

My wife ordered some Cantillon bottle and I ordered something else, then she decided that she had had enough beer and I was left to drink it. And it was so terrible I couldn't and it was thrown away.

Next time there will be a happier ending.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on May 08, 2017, 03:28:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 08, 2017, 11:31:24 am
I've been twice to Owen's Ordinary and it's been terrible to say the least both times. Funny enough, they had a couple of Cantillon kegs last week. I called this weekend to see if they were still on tap. The conversation went like this.

Yada: "Hi, I was wondering if you still have the Cantillon kegs on tap?"

Owen's: "Ummmm.... what is the name of the brewery?"

Yada: "Cantillon, you had two kegs on earlier this week for the Belgian event."

Owen's: "Ummm.... Hold on one second please.
2nd Owen's Employee: "Hi, can I help you?"

Yada: "DO YOU HAVE CANTILLON ON DRAFT"

2nd Owen's Employee: "Ummm... I don't think we have that beer on draft here"

Yada: "click"

That's really surprising to me.  They did have that event and it was awesome.  The server helping my group indicated that sales were going slower than anticipated and they thought the remaining bottles were going to go to The Sovereign.  They had five Cantillon beers available, two on draft.  Everyone who was working the event seemed really knowledgeable.  We went once early and I stopped by again for a few pours later.  Two sets of servers, both really helpful and aware of what was on tap that day.  I really like that spot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2017, 06:26:37 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 13, 2017, 05:19:02 pm
Quote from: vansmack on March 11, 2017, 02:42:00 pm
SpeakEasy apparently ceased operations yesterday. Looking for a creditor lifeline.

Mediocre beer + aggressive expansion at a time of increasing competition and more discerning drinkers = bankruptcy

Purchased by a local guy for $2.5m.

Ces Butner, the former owner of Oakland's Horizon Beverage Co., bought Speakeasy's brands and equipment on Monday. Butner's new company is Hunters Point Brewery LLC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2017, 07:11:16 pm
Quote from: vansmack on May 08, 2017, 06:26:37 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 13, 2017, 05:19:02 pm
Quote from: vansmack on March 11, 2017, 02:42:00 pm
SpeakEasy apparently ceased operations yesterday. Looking for a creditor lifeline.

Mediocre beer + aggressive expansion at a time of increasing competition and more discerning drinkers = bankruptcy

Purchased by a local guy for $2.5m.

Ces Butner, the former owner of Oakland's Horizon Beverage Co., bought Speakeasy's brands and equipment on Monday. Butner's new company is Hunters Point Brewery LLC.
Sounds like a steal of a deal to open a new brewery
Is it going to be located in Hunters Point? (was speakeasy there?)

reminds me how much I miss Molinari Salame and the brisket at Smokin? Warehouse Barbecue (conveniently right next to the methadone clinic...where I was a IT consultant, not a client :) )
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2017, 07:18:45 pm
Quote from: just old SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on May 08, 2017, 07:11:16 pm
Is it going to be located in Hunters Point? (was speakeasy there?)

Yes.  Speakeasy is right where Evans turns into Hunter's Point Blvd, though you wouldn't recognize the area as they have torn down The Stick and building a ton of housing and neighborhoody stuff on the old shipyard site.


Quote from: just old SideHatch .🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on May 08, 2017, 07:11:16 pm
reminds me how much I miss Molinari Salame and the brisket at Smokin? Warehouse Barbecue (conveniently right next to the methadone clinic...where I was a IT consultant, not a client :) )

Molinari and Sons is about a mile due south of the brewery, but that isn't the way I would go.  Safer to make it about a 1.8 mile journey around that hill.  And yes, all good stuff - haven't been down there in a while.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 09, 2017, 09:51:44 am
Quote from: medeski7 on May 08, 2017, 03:28:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 08, 2017, 11:31:24 am
I've been twice to Owen's Ordinary and it's been terrible to say the least both times. Funny enough, they had a couple of Cantillon kegs last week. I called this weekend to see if they were still on tap. The conversation went like this.

Yada: "Hi, I was wondering if you still have the Cantillon kegs on tap?"

Owen's: "Ummmm.... what is the name of the brewery?"

Yada: "Cantillon, you had two kegs on earlier this week for the Belgian event."

Owen's: "Ummm.... Hold on one second please.
2nd Owen's Employee: "Hi, can I help you?"

Yada: "DO YOU HAVE CANTILLON ON DRAFT"

2nd Owen's Employee: "Ummm... I don't think we have that beer on draft here"

Yada: "click"

That's really surprising to me.  They did have that event and it was awesome.  The server helping my group indicated that sales were going slower than anticipated and they thought the remaining bottles were going to go to The Sovereign.  They had five Cantillon beers available, two on draft.  Everyone who was working the event seemed really knowledgeable.  We went once early and I stopped by again for a few pours later.  Two sets of servers, both really helpful and aware of what was on tap that day.  I really like that spot.

Maybe they had the A team working that day, but every time I've been there no one knows shit about beer, requesting me to order by # on the menu, and then receiving glasses full of foam.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on May 09, 2017, 01:48:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 09, 2017, 09:51:44 am
Quote from: medeski7 on May 08, 2017, 03:28:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 08, 2017, 11:31:24 am
I've been twice to Owen's Ordinary and it's been terrible to say the least both times. Funny enough, they had a couple of Cantillon kegs last week. I called this weekend to see if they were still on tap. The conversation went like this.

Yada: "Hi, I was wondering if you still have the Cantillon kegs on tap?"

Owen's: "Ummmm.... what is the name of the brewery?"

Yada: "Cantillon, you had two kegs on earlier this week for the Belgian event."

Owen's: "Ummm.... Hold on one second please.
2nd Owen's Employee: "Hi, can I help you?"

Yada: "DO YOU HAVE CANTILLON ON DRAFT"

2nd Owen's Employee: "Ummm... I don't think we have that beer on draft here"

Yada: "click"

That's really surprising to me.  They did have that event and it was awesome.  The server helping my group indicated that sales were going slower than anticipated and they thought the remaining bottles were going to go to The Sovereign.  They had five Cantillon beers available, two on draft.  Everyone who was working the event seemed really knowledgeable.  We went once early and I stopped by again for a few pours later.  Two sets of servers, both really helpful and aware of what was on tap that day.  I really like that spot.

Maybe they had the A team working that day, but every time I've been there no one knows shit about beer, requesting me to order by # on the menu, and then receiving glasses full of foam.

The foam thing is a real problem.  I've had a corporate event there and asked about it.  Their tap system has developed a leak that is allowing additional air into the system, per the employees I spoke to.  They are aware of the problem and really need to have the system fixed.  It's really negatively affecting the quality of the pours. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 09, 2017, 09:25:22 pm
Yada for the win.

https://wickedweedbrewing.com/funkatorium-invitational-update/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 10, 2017, 07:45:18 am
Sad that it had to end up this way. Oh, well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 11, 2017, 02:38:59 pm
Quote from: SideOfBacon 🥓🥓🥓🥓 on May 07, 2017, 06:42:54 pm
Penn Druid is making a rare tap take over in balston next week

Brewed at Right Proper - Brookland, Soused is made with juniper-infused water and a Nordic farmhouse yeast strain. Aggressively hopped with Mosaic and Comet, this IPA has huge notes of sticky orange, mango and dank juniper.
Was happy to have stopped by
I really liked Soused
the pen druid stuff was good too
Pen Druid Pluto (French Oak BA Brown Ale)
Pen Druid Sun People (Hungarian Oak BA Sour Blond Ale; Aged 1 Year)

I also had
The Veil  #ladybroznightout ...which was very good


all still on tap
Want to try some more of the right proper and stone stuff I didn't get to try

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18301285_10155395694877834_4117035996984379675_n.jpg?oh=3fdd4e2af3531341d9e1c237e3f14660&oe=59803D7D)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on May 12, 2017, 02:58:00 pm
Quote
I also had
The Veil  #ladybroznightout ...which was very good

Yada loves this beer - talks about it constantly
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 12, 2017, 03:25:49 pm
Quote from: brennser on May 12, 2017, 02:58:00 pm
Quote
I also had
The Veil  #ladybroznightout ...which was very good

Yada loves this beer - talks about it constantly

Once you drink it, you're confused about which bathroom to pee in. ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 18, 2017, 05:13:33 pm
Union Craft relocating, will triple capacity

http://www.baltimoremagazine.com/2017/5/16/union-craft-brewing-moving-to-medfield
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 19, 2017, 11:25:44 am
Got a bottle of KBS at Rustico last night...although didn't really feel like it was all that and the $15 price tag  was a bit much IMO (I think they have more if you have to have one)
also a particularly bad choice after 5 mile bike ride in that heat

What I did really like was The Veil's Nice Relationship. 
These guys are just putting out some awesome stuff and glad they are getting on taps up here
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 19, 2017, 04:57:58 pm
so now that Wicked Weed is out, what other carolinian beers should i be lusting for?

a relative from Raleigh is coming to visit and has offered to mule a few bottles for me... but frankly i have no idea what to ask for.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 19, 2017, 05:00:32 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 19, 2017, 04:57:58 pm
so now that Wicked Weed is out, what other carolinian beers should i be lusting for?

a relative from Raleigh is coming to visit and has offered to mule a few bottles for me... but frankly i have no idea what to ask for.

Meh... not much. Maybe Burial... Maybe NoDa... probably nothing better than you can get out your front door now that you're a Pac NW resident.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2017, 11:51:03 am
an interesting and pretty lengthy article  (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/the-straw-man-arguments-of-craft-beer-sell-outs.html)about how these buyouts are really bad for the craft industry

I think the biggest problem for the fans of craft beer is going to be access to the key ingredients to make their special swill
Shelf space in this market hasn't been a deal breaker for a lot of these great craft brewers as most sell direct to consumer (not not really ideal if you live in the middle of nowhere..but can't worry about all the people all the time)

they scraped a funny tweet WW made in 2015 about their new overlords...
(https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/wicked%20weed%20on%20budweiser.PNG)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2017, 02:08:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 19, 2017, 04:57:58 pm
so now that Wicked Weed is out, what other carolinian beers should i be lusting for?

a relative from Raleigh is coming to visit and has offered to mule a few bottles for me... but frankly i have no idea what to ask for.

Bond Brothers out of Raleigh
Heist and Noda out of Charlotte
Fonta Flora out of Morganton
Burial out of Asheville
Olde Hickory out of Hickory
Foothills out of Winston-Salem

https://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/nc/

Heist has the #11 IPA on BA, the #1 IPA not made in either VT or MA.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/style/116/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 25, 2017, 10:53:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 20, 2017, 02:16:52 pm
Quote from: earth shifted beneath our feet.🛠|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|🚀 on March 20, 2017, 02:14:51 pm
New brewery in Alexandria with some old roots
https://portnerbrewhouse.com/
I chatted with Space we have already agreed the place is shit.

Quote
lets be clear...neither of you have tried it
but I agree...it will probably suck

well finally made it ...and you were 100% right

Modera  Pale Ale - meh
?I?d Give Up Chocolate But...? Chocolate Stout  - blah
Porter- slightly mediocre
Small Beer - almost undrinkable

only saving grace...they had a #beeritforward promotion for Vets
So I bought a beer for some vet on Monday...wish it could be better beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on June 05, 2017, 08:32:52 pm
I don't care what they say...unfiltered sculpin in some pretty tasty shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 05, 2017, 08:39:08 pm
I smell a turd.

Post from Joe Tucker, founder of RateBeer.

---------------------

Dear Friends,

Today, my wife Jen and I are feeling great hope for the RateBeer community I?ve been carefully stewarding for more than a decade and a half. With the contributions of so many great people around the globe, our tiny company has helped change the world of beer through our humble and diligent commitment to serving the whole world beer community. We?re proud of our accomplishments, to have helped so many small breweries and beer retailers receive the spotlight they deserved and are so grateful for all the wonderful people, places and experiences that tending the site over these many years has provided us.

Today we?re announcing that ZX Ventures has purchased a minority investment in RateBeer. The focus of the agreement was on maintaining RateBeer?s value as an unbiased beer authority, retaining our operational independence, informing a whole new group of global consumers and keeping them excited about the beer.

Many people are probably surprised that our modest little company would be of interest to ZX Ventures, AB InBev?s tech-friendly growth division. We were definitely surprised too. There are few suitable companions for a very unique company like ours, a small niche tech-driven online publisher, and far fewer still in a position to not only buy in but also expand our scope and vision.

One of the greatest challenges I?ve had in choosing this magical life for myself as a developer of an online community has been the monstrous amount of work I?d signed on to, and that the site required, day and night, every day of the year. As the site?s only full time employee, this has meant I?ve always been on call. I love RateBeer dearly and I love my work, but it?s been really nice not staying up all night working on servers! It?s with relief and gratitude that the site has finally received the resources and infrastructure it needs to move forward and develop for the coming technical challenges and opportunities. I?ve never been more excited about RateBeer?s future and our ability to achieve new heights.

Most everyone who is close to the site and involved our community knows that we?ve tried to address our resource issues issues in a number of creative ways over the years. We?ve also looked at a variety of potential partners and found ZX was our best choice. Their comfort with technology, existing tech resources, beer loving culture, enthusiasm and respect for the community, an understanding of varied beer cultures globally, the stability of their company and dedication to preserving our independence made ZX the very best fit. I know this is surprising to many out there, but I?m confident I made the best possible decision.

I?ve been working with our expanded team on a daily basis since October. What we?ve found on the other side is a multicultural company that cares deeply about their own employees, cares about the local communities they invest in developing and is taking significant steps to better understand and foster local beer. It?s a great small team in a big company.

ZX Ventures has the utmost respect for the integrity of the data and the unbiased service we offer to the entire community and industry. It?s been a vital part of the plan since day one and we continue to operate as we always have, with myself as manager, and overseen by the watchful and critical eye of our volunteer worldwide administrators, external sales and offering equal opportunity to all advertisers and other customers.

Additionally, RateBeer Best became the premier worldwide international beer awards program and our festival one of the best in the world largely based on the simple and inviolable integrity of our computational methods and reliance on crowd-sourced reviews. This obviously won?t and cannot change, and thankfully we have loud opinionated critics in RateBeer?s ranks, and a data transparency initiative to ensure it never does. We?ve seen many positive examples for best managing an investor relationship and we?ve applied our learning.

Life at RateBeer will continue as it has. I?ll continue to work writing code, crunching numbers, answering questions, working with our administrators, reaching out to talk to people in the community and planning new features.

Thanks again for all your generosity, care, good times, support, love and faithfulness. To you all I?ll be raising a beer.

Much love,

Joe Tucker

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 05, 2017, 08:40:38 pm
So does Sam.




    Hello fellow beer advocates. I know most of you are aware of the news. We found out on Friday. I have had a number of fellow beer lovers and indie craft brewers reach out to me asking how we felt about it at Dogfish and if we intended to react in any way to it. Here is our reaction:

    https://www.dogfish.com/blog/message-sam-current-ratebeer-changes

    Dogfish Head has been part of the RateBeer.com network for quite some time. In fact, we?re fans of almost all websites, magazines, newsletters and blogs that help educate the public and inspire the consumption of great beer; publications that are passionate about sharing the love for our vibrant craft brewing renaissance that is now gaining traction around the globe. For many years, RateBeer, along with entities like BeerAdvocate, All About Beer, Draft, Celebrator, Ale Street, Brewing News and many more have championed this burgeoning and blossoming craft beer community in ways that are consistent with journalistic integrity.

    We were troubled by the announcement last week that ZX Ventures, which is fully owned by the global conglomerate Anheuser-Busch InBev, has purchased a portion of RateBeer. We believe this is a direct violation of the Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ) Code of Ethics and a blatant conflict of interest. The SPJ?s Code of Ethics includes a section called ?Act Independently? and includes the following guidelines:

        Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived. Disclose unavoidable conflicts.
        Refuse gifts, favors, fees, free travel and special treatment, and avoid political and other outside activities that may compromise integrity or impartiality, or may damage credibility.
        Be wary of sources offering information for favors or money; do not pay for access to news. Identify content provided by outside sources, whether paid or not.
        Deny favored treatment to advertisers, donors or any other special interests, and resist internal and external pressure to influence coverage.
        Distinguish news from advertising and shun hybrids that blur the lines between the two. Prominently label sponsored content.

    It is our strong opinion that ABI?s ownership of RateBeer, and other properties positioned to cover the craft brewing community like October and thebeernecessities.com is in direct conflict with multiple guidelines listed above.

    In the past, as executive editor of Pallet, a print magazine project that celebrated global craft beer culture, neither I nor Dogfish Head held any stake in the publication. As a company, Dogfish Head continually shows support for various craft beer publications through paid advertising campaigns.

    To that end, we have respectfully asked Anheuser-Busch InBev and RateBeer to remove all Dogfish Head beer reviews and mentions on the RateBeer website immediately. It just doesn?t seem right for a brewer of any kind to be in a position to potentially manipulate what consumers are hearing and saying about beers, how they are rated and which ones are receiving extra publicity on what might appear to be a legitimate, 100 percent user-generated platform. It is our opinion that this initiative and others are ethically dubious and that the lack of transparency is troubling.

    To our fellow independently-owned brewers, we encourage you to join us in this effort to ensure consumers continue to get the best and most accurate information about their beers. For everyone else, we encourage you to shift the sharing of your beer opinions and reviews to another platform that remains loyal to the principles of journalistic integrity. America?s Independence Day is just around the corner. Support the indie craft brewing movement!

    Cheers,
    Sam

    For more information on the Society of Professional Journalism, please log on to their website: https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp.
     

#1
SamCalagione, Today at 12:02 AM
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 17, 2017, 09:26:51 pm
All bombers 20% off at Amazon Foods this weekend for FAthers Day. Space approves of this message.

I got two bombers of Rodenbach Alexander for $12.79 ea, plus a couple of Bruery bombers for around $16 each.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 17, 2017, 10:54:37 pm
EBK  by Adroit Theory Brewing Company is one damn fine beer
Nice that they regularly have it on tap at Copperwood

Also picked up a four pack of this and loved it
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GGFUFTbWA3I/maxresdefault.jpg)
really didn't feel like I was having a beer, but it was very refreshing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 18, 2017, 06:41:01 pm
i was in chicago a few weeks ago and i was very pleasantly surprised at how common good craft beer was.  i did not hit a single spot that didn't have a few good choices on offer.  Daisy Cutter was omnipresent, including at the neighborhood dive bar we danced at until 4 am.  speaking of Half Acre, i got to taste their Vallejo IPA (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/18006/85840/) which was damn tasty.

currently enjoying a Melvin IPA (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24056/62740/) - highly recommended. i had never heard of this beer before but my grocery store had 10-day old cans, and they were on sale, so i gave it a spin.  will be grabbing them again.  also, my house beer (until i get my brew stand built again...) is the Hop Valley IPA variety pack (https://www.hopvalleybrewing.com/thehopharvest/let-the-anticipation-begin/). solid, fresh IPAs and DIPAs in a convenient box at a great price. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 18, 2017, 07:34:29 pm
Veil is putting out 2 of my 3 favorite beers they do this week: Crucial Taunt and Hornswoggler. (Lord Shredder is the other.) Planning on heading over on Tuesday if anyone wants me to pick them up anything.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 08:01:47 am
Anybody ever flown with canned beer? If so, how did it hold in the checked luggage compared to bottles? We're headed to a wine-centric European nation for vacation, but I'm planning on bringing a handful of cans to drink while there.

I usually wrap luggage beer individually in bubble wrap and then seal it a plastic bag. I've only ever had one or two bottles break.

I hope the cans I'm bringing hold up better than the over-carbonated mess cans from Aslin that I'm not bringing. I even had one of their cans explode in my hand the other day, sending beer everywhere. Who knew I was so strong?

And though the country we're going to is wine-centric, I still have my eyes on some good Belgians to bring home.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 19, 2017, 09:01:17 am
Explode in your hand?

Yes, I've packed cans without incident but you're traveling quite a bit further than I did.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 19, 2017, 09:05:46 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 08:01:47 am
Anybody ever flown with canned beer? If so, how did it hold in the checked luggage compared to bottles? We're headed to a wine-centric European nation for vacation, but I'm planning on bringing a handful of cans to drink while there.

I usually wrap luggage beer individually in bubble wrap and then seal it a plastic bag. I've only ever had one or two bottles break.

I hope the cans I'm bringing hold up better than the over-carbonated mess cans from Aslin that I'm not bringing. I even had one of their cans explode in my hand the other day, sending beer everywhere. Who knew I was so strong?

And though the country we're going to is wine-centric, I still have my eyes on some good Belgians to bring home.  ;)

I typically fly home with cans from any destination that has good cans. Pack them no differently than you would a bottle or if you're shipping beer in a trade and you'll be fine. Half the time I just wrap them in dirty clothes and stick them in a garbage bag just in case one breaks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 10:48:39 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 19, 2017, 09:01:17 am
Explode in your hand?

Yes, I've packed cans without incident but you're traveling quite a bit further than I did.

I was pulling on of those four pack snap thingys, and boom, it exploded in my hand.

I've had several others where the beer came gushing out of the can like a volcano upon opening. It's the same batch of a wild IPA that they brewed a month or two ago.

I think the answer is to refrigerate the beer 100% of the time, but I have too much beer to refrigerate, even if I bought and dedicated a second fridge just to beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on June 19, 2017, 11:16:34 am
Quote from: Yes, that JULIAN on June 18, 2017, 07:34:29 pm
Veil is putting out 2 of my 3 favorite beers they do this week: Crucial Taunt and Hornswoggler. (Lord Shredder is the other.) Planning on heading over on Tuesday if anyone wants me to pick them up anything.

Hi there, I'm very interested in this.  I know I'm not a super regular here, but I'd appreciate being in on this if you're down for it.  I went to the Aslin release this week and have trades if you'd prefer that to cash.  I'm interested in all three of the releases at the Veil this week. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 19, 2017, 11:42:29 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 08:01:47 am
Anybody ever flown with canned beer? If so, how did it hold in the checked luggage compared to bottles?

We're headed to a wine-centric European nation for vacation, but I'm planning on bringing a handful of cans to drink while there.

never had a problem with cans.  i'd much rather pack cans than bottles.

where are you headed?  craft beer is available everywhere now, even in wine-centric corners of euroland...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 19, 2017, 11:44:21 am
Quote from: sweetcell on June 19, 2017, 11:42:29 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 08:01:47 am
Anybody ever flown with canned beer? If so, how did it hold in the checked luggage compared to bottles?

We're headed to a wine-centric European nation for vacation, but I'm planning on bringing a handful of cans to drink while there.

never had a problem with cans.  i'd much rather pack cans than bottles.

where are you headed?  craft beer is available everywhere now, even in wine-centric corners of euroland...

sweetcell, do you understand the cost savings to travel with your own beer a few thousand miles??????!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 12:06:11 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 19, 2017, 11:42:29 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 08:01:47 am
Anybody ever flown with canned beer? If so, how did it hold in the checked luggage compared to bottles?

We're headed to a wine-centric European nation for vacation, but I'm planning on bringing a handful of cans to drink while there.

never had a problem with cans.  i'd much rather pack cans than bottles.

where are you headed?  craft beer is available everywhere now, even in wine-centric corners of euroland...

Yes, there is craft beer available in many places, but I'm pretty sure I won't find Sip of Sunshine there. In three month old cans that are only going to be two weeks older when we return home.

We're headed to Northern Italy. The first week in the cities there should be a fair amount of craft beer available (Venice, Bologna, Florence, Ferrara, Verona). The second week in the Dolomites and at Lake Garda, we might be reduced to drinking German swill, albeit in places that look like this:

(http://www.rifugiopuez.it/moxiemanager/files/slideshow/rif9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 19, 2017, 02:05:20 pm
I can appreciate that. Headed to Barcelona and France this fall and aside from Belgian beers the prospects are not good, beer-wise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 19, 2017, 04:32:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 12:06:11 pm
... Sip of Sunshine there. In three month old cans that are only going to be two weeks older when we return home.



Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 19, 2017, 02:05:20 pm
I can appreciate that. Headed to Barcelona and France this fall and aside from Belgian beers the prospects are not good, beer-wise.

while you might not find mind-blowing beer in every single supermarket, you do have options:
- Barcelona (https://www.beeradvocate.com/place/list/?&c_id=ES&city=Barcelona&sort=name&sort=rating) (sorted by rating)
- France (https://www.beeradvocate.com/place/directory/6/FR/)
i definitely came across some very good beer in france, and there are indeed belgian beers just about everywhere (except maybe the very south of the country).  based on the interviews with spanish brewers that i hear on my favorite brewing podcast, you'd think spain has a huge beer scene, at least in the big cities... let us know what you find ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on June 20, 2017, 09:32:54 am
Love Sip of Sunshine, but I like Super Session more.

Just got back from Seattle and found Cloudburst Brewery. Really delicious. Had Refractive IPA and SOP IPA and my husband really liked their Pilsner.

Was also able to try 4 Holy Mountain beers. All delicious.

I miss the PNW beers already.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 20, 2017, 10:01:41 am
Quote from: K8teebug on June 20, 2017, 09:32:54 am
Love Sip of Sunshine, but I like Super Session more.

Just got back from Seattle and found Cloudburst Brewery. Really delicious. Had Refractive IPA and SOP IPA and my husband really liked their Pilsner.

Was also able to try 4 Holy Mountain beers. All delicious.

I miss the PNW beers already.

What did you bring home? :)

and LOL

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/2017-best-beers-america-results/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 20, 2017, 10:08:58 am
Quote from: Yada on June 20, 2017, 10:01:41 am
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/2017-best-beers-america-results/
Only 4 beers from Michigan in the top 6?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 20, 2017, 10:09:56 am
Quote from: Yes, that JULIAN on June 20, 2017, 10:08:58 am
Quote from: Yada on June 20, 2017, 10:01:41 am
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/2017-best-beers-america-results/
Only 4 beers from Michigan in the top 6?

I love that Julian went from a beer hater to now attending beer releases at Veil.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 20, 2017, 10:20:33 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 08:01:47 am
Anybody ever flown with canned beer? If so, how did it hold in the checked luggage compared to bottles? We're headed to a wine-centric European nation for vacation, but I'm planning on bringing a handful of cans to drink while there.

I usually wrap luggage beer individually in bubble wrap and then seal it a plastic bag. I've only ever had one or two bottles break.

I hope the cans I'm bringing hold up better than the over-carbonated mess cans from Aslin that I'm not bringing. I even had one of their cans explode in my hand the other day, sending beer everywhere. Who knew I was so strong?

And though the country we're going to is wine-centric, I still have my eyes on some good Belgians to bring home.  ;)

Just don't hastily rearrange cans when one of your suitcases is over the weight limit and throw the remaining cans loosely into the other bag. What a fun day that was! RIP four Heady cans and a forever stinky hops suitcase. At least the Hill Farmstead bottles remained intact  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 20, 2017, 10:28:30 am
Quote from: Yes, that JULIAN on June 20, 2017, 10:08:58 am
Quote from: Yada on June 20, 2017, 10:01:41 am
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/2017-best-beers-america-results/
Only 4 beers from Michigan in the top 6?

only 2 of the top 25 breweries are in MI... poor showing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on June 20, 2017, 11:00:45 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 19, 2017, 08:01:47 am
Anybody ever flown with canned beer? If so, how did it hold in the checked luggage compared to bottles? We're headed to a wine-centric European nation for vacation, but I'm planning on bringing a handful of cans to drink while there.

I hope the cans I'm bringing hold up better than the over-carbonated mess cans from Aslin that I'm not bringing. I even had one of their cans explode in my hand the other day, sending beer everywhere. Who knew I was so strong?



My Aslin/RAR cans exploded in my hand as well - they are offering refunds

I've checked cans in bags dozens of times - when I go to Boston I literally place an entire case of Trillium in a carry on bag w no other protection and have never had any leaks or damage
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 22, 2017, 09:57:24 am
fuckin' lolz

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVl2OTHAUdu/?taken-by=dontdrinkbeers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on June 22, 2017, 02:04:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 22, 2017, 09:57:24 am
fuckin' lolz

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVl2OTHAUdu/?taken-by=dontdrinkbeers

or, if they look like this . . . same thing.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjTT7iNWkAELqKU.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2017, 05:36:08 pm
New laws for VA alcohol
http://wtvr.com/2017/06/29/the-new-va-abc-laws-taking-effect-july-1/

simplified rules for Virginia distilleries at festivals and delivery of closed containers of alcohol to customer’s vehicles

I think Julian will like this one
HB 1842: This law raises the maximum proof of neutral grain spirits that may be sold through Virginia ABC retail stores without a permit. The previous limit was 101 proof. The new limit is 151 proof.

this is a good one...sell wine to fund-raise! (Why not beer too?)
HB 1694: will allow nonprofit organizations with banquet licenses to sell closed containers of wine to those 21 or older as part of any fundraising activity.

Don't offer your airbnb guests a beer tho..
SB 1578: This law requires individuals operating short-term rentals (Airbnb) who wish to offer alcoholic beverages to their guests to obtain a bed and breakfast license.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 29, 2017, 06:19:37 pm
Quote from: Side-majeure 🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on June 29, 2017, 05:36:08 pm
this is a good one...sell wine to fund-raise! (Why not beer too?)
HB 1694: will allow nonprofit organizations with banquet licenses to sell closed containers of wine to those 21 or older as part of any fundraising activity.

Because hipsters are not philanthropists.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2017, 08:33:38 am
Quote from: herman otto on June 22, 2017, 02:04:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 22, 2017, 09:57:24 am
fuckin' lolz

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVl2OTHAUdu/?taken-by=dontdrinkbeers

or, if they look like this . . . same thing.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjTT7iNWkAELqKU.jpg)

is that you? Minus, the bowtie?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 10, 2017, 08:32:24 pm
I am at, the beach.  In lower NC.  Found a nice, small beer shoppe.  Only bought 3 bottles, because that was all I needed.

1.  Wicked Weed.  Black Angel

2.  Clown Shoes. Space Cake

3.  He'Brew.  Funky Jewbelation
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 10, 2017, 08:34:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2017, 08:33:38 am
Quote from: herman otto on June 22, 2017, 02:04:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 22, 2017, 09:57:24 am
fuckin' lolz

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVl2OTHAUdu/?taken-by=dontdrinkbeers

or, if they look like this . . . same thing.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjTT7iNWkAELqKU.jpg)

is that you? Minus, the bowtie?

I, don't wear leather.
I, hate goatees.
I, am not much of a ginger any,more.  Going silver fox.
I, metal frame glasses all the way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 10, 2017, 10:53:08 pm
Quote from: herman otto on July 10, 2017, 08:32:24 pm
I am at, the beach.  In lower NC.  Found a nice, small beer shoppe.  Only bought 3 bottles, because that was all I needed.

1.  Wicked Weed.  Black Angel

2.  Clown Shoes. Space Cake

3.  He'Brew.  Funky Jewbelation

excellent choices, minus the politics associated with WW... but i'd drink any one of those (and likely all three).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Kemosabe on July 11, 2017, 12:16:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 22, 2017, 09:57:24 am
fuckin' lolz
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/19121615_1897308550518021_2084118646862381056_n.jpg)
Yikes.  I would never wear any of those.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 11, 2017, 03:20:35 pm
R.I.P RFD

Won't be missed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2017, 05:19:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 11, 2017, 03:20:35 pm
R.I.P RFD

https://www.popville.com/2017/07/after-15-years-rfd-closes-in-chinatown/

Quote from: Yada on July 11, 2017, 03:20:35 pm
Won't be missed.

it will always have a place in my heart as one of the first craft beer bars in DC, as having a great tap selection, and i could mainline their buffalo burger (rare, with blue cheese).  has always been my pre-gaming spot before a show/game at Verizon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 12, 2017, 08:50:32 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 11, 2017, 05:19:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 11, 2017, 03:20:35 pm
R.I.P RFD

https://www.popville.com/2017/07/after-15-years-rfd-closes-in-chinatown/

Quote from: Yada on July 11, 2017, 03:20:35 pm
Won't be missed.

it will always have a place in my heart as one of the first craft beer bars in DC, as having a great tap selection, and i could mainline their buffalo burger (rare, with blue cheese).  has always been my pre-gaming spot before a show/game at Verizon.

there is no denying that family/business were trailblazers for craft beer in the area, but they've been a dinosaur for close to a decade at this point. And that food at RFD... my god that food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 12, 2017, 08:54:04 am
Brickskeller was cool...


RFD sucked
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 12, 2017, 09:12:39 am
Quote from: hutch on July 12, 2017, 08:54:04 am
Brickskeller was cool...


RFD sucked

Loved the Brickskeller... Especially loved drinking about 6 of these guys below, eating an order of pierogies, and walking out smelling like I smoked a pack of marbie reds.


(http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit/beer_670.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 12, 2017, 10:24:59 am
I loved the Brickskeller...never was too excited about RFD

Got to meet Michael Jackson twice there (not the gloved one...the beer one)
the tasting events really got me into craft beer, they were soo much fun
the barleywine one was always a blast as everyone was tanked at the end of it
Bert Grant from Yakima Brewing & Malting Co was always a hoot too

For a little while I had ambition to try all the 100 beers
now 100 is a small list, but at the time it was insane
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 12, 2017, 10:53:54 am
I never cared for either place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 12, 2017, 10:59:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2017, 10:53:54 am
I never cared for either place.

Color me surprised!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 12, 2017, 11:01:25 am
Quote from: hutch on July 12, 2017, 08:54:04 am
Brickskeller was cool...


RFD sucked

Brickskeller was great after you made your fifth choice from the beer menu since they were always out of stock from your first four selections.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 12, 2017, 05:15:45 pm
When the best hops around give a shout out to the best band around!

#praiseBrennser


(https://image.ibb.co/csAXza/20170712_081441.jpg)

(https://preview.ibb.co/jnJwQF/20170712_081437.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on July 13, 2017, 10:15:52 pm
Looking forward to picking up my five different bottles of this next week. https://www.brewbound.com/news/black-project-releases-6-lambic-inspired-super-fruited-ales (https://www.brewbound.com/news/black-project-releases-6-lambic-inspired-super-fruited-ales)
(https://d1ynl4hb5mx7r8.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/13091732/347387149.all3_-768x576.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 15, 2017, 05:22:10 pm
Founders Doom is a big big beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 15, 2017, 11:50:36 pm
since I will be attending a show in the illusionary city of DC, and staying in a hotel so to get real sloppy intoxicated . . . I will bring the following bottles of beer to drink, and not spend the highway robbery prices of drinking at a bar or restaurant:

1.  Deschutes  Cultivateur Provision Saison

2.  South Street  Tounge Dropper  Sour Double IPA

3.  Wicked Weed   Recurrant

4.  Wicked Weed  Genesis  Blond Sour 

of the bottles I got at the beach, the WW Black Angel was fucking incredible, the CS Space Cake is delightful as I type this and sip at the same time, and the HB Funky Jew I have not had, but I already put in the fridge, so I will not bring it tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 16, 2017, 10:01:30 am
Quote from: herman otto on July 15, 2017, 11:50:36 pm
since I will be attending a show in the illusionary city of DC, and staying in a hotel so to get real sloppy intoxicated . . . I will bring the following bottles of beer to drink, and not spend the highway robbery prices of drinking at a bar or restaurant:

1.  Deschutes  Cultivateur Provision Saison

2.  South Street  Tounge Dropper  Sour Double IPA

3.  Wicked Weed   Recurrant

4.  Wicked Weed  Genesis  Blond Sour 

of the bottles I got at the beach, the WW Black Angel was fucking incredible, the CS Space Cake is delightful as I type this and sip at the same time, and the HB Funky Jew I have not had, but I already put in the fridge, so I will not bring it tomorrow.

Some more nice choices!

I got a 32 oz growler of WW Genesis for $8 yesterday. Compare that to $16 for a 16 oz bottle. Another Space win. That's what we're drinking today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 16, 2017, 10:22:35 am
Quote from: herman otto on July 15, 2017, 11:50:36 pm
2.  South Street  Tounge Dropper  Sour Double IPA
I was looking forward to this...but I really didn't like it at all

hard to go wrong with WW an CS
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 16, 2017, 11:12:55 am
I was hoping for good things on that South Street as well. I will give my review after I drink it probably while stinking drunk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on July 17, 2017, 04:44:03 am
I have had a few beers from South Street and they have all ended up being terrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 17, 2017, 03:08:13 pm
I bet space and walky have loads of these beers in their basement.

(https://image.ibb.co/fx5bxv/20170717_074309.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 17, 2017, 03:37:05 pm
Why, you gotta be, beer racist?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 17, 2017, 04:00:00 pm
I have never watched that tv show, nor have I ever drank the beer.

Quote from: Yada on July 17, 2017, 03:08:13 pm
I bet space and walky have loads of these beers in their basement.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 18, 2017, 11:36:28 am
Flying Dog leaves brewers association after censorship accusations.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 18, 2017, 10:23:27 pm
Had the South Street Tounge Dropper tonight.  It, wasn't bad.  Not sour forward or over hot damn incredible, but still a nice drinking beer with a good flavor.

But, then again, I'm not a stuck-up fuck head like some people on this board.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 19, 2017, 08:58:42 am
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/07/the-haze-craze-13-northeastern-breweries-making-ne.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 19, 2017, 09:05:05 am
Quote from: Yada on July 19, 2017, 08:58:42 am
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/07/the-haze-craze-13-northeastern-breweries-making-ne.html

Yum, been to seven of them. For atmosphere I really liked the Other Half taproom. Heady is still #1 for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 19, 2017, 09:28:00 am
Tomorrow, should be fun.  Hitting Pen Druid and Copper Fox Distillery for the firdt time, and then a wonderful restaurant in Rappahannock County,  VA.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 19, 2017, 01:36:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 19, 2017, 09:05:05 am
Quote from: Yada on July 19, 2017, 08:58:42 am
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/07/the-haze-craze-13-northeastern-breweries-making-ne.html

Yum, been to seven of them. For atmosphere I really liked the Other Half taproom. Heady is still #1 for me.

Wouldn't pass up a heady, but it's fallen pretty far down on the totem pole round my parts. As the article states, it is the OG, but it's been surpassed by the new guys IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 19, 2017, 08:53:31 pm
Heady is still a great beer. Happy as hell that the new breweries are getting all of the attention now. Makes going to the Alchemist all the easier.

Foam might be my favorite drinking spot in the Burlington area, though. Hill Farmstead is great, too, but such a pain in the ass. And I'd much  rather have cans than growlers.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 20, 2017, 02:26:45 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on July 19, 2017, 08:53:31 pm
Heady is still a great beer. Happy as hell that the new breweries are getting all of the attention now. Makes going to the Alchemist all the easier.

Foam might be my favorite drinking spot in the Burlington area, though. Hill Farmstead is great, too, but such a pain in the ass. And I'd much  rather have cans than growlers.

Hill Farmstead is actually doing cans.... for onsite consumption exclusively. What a tease!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 20, 2017, 03:01:36 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 20, 2017, 02:26:45 pm
Hill Farmstead is actually doing cans.... for onsite consumption exclusively. What a tease!
Ok that just sounds stupid, but I guess it makes the lines go better
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 20, 2017, 07:00:40 pm
Yes, they have cans for onsite consumption.

Helps when you have to wait 2 hours for growler fills. Or when you figure 2 hours isnt worth it but you at least deserve something for the time it took to get there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 20, 2017, 07:13:42 pm
Pen Druid just blew, me away.  I am in love.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 21, 2017, 08:56:55 am
wait they have a glory hold at PD?!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 21, 2017, 11:20:13 am
glory, hold?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 21, 2017, 02:32:46 pm
somethings got a hold on me

speaking of beer, made it to lakewood NY
Southern Tier has an imperial cherry Gose on tap (and in bottles)....I think it's good and sneakily strong with 8% ABV
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 22, 2017, 02:22:10 pm
Anxiously awaiting the mix pack

https://umdrightnow.umd.edu/news/flying-dog-brewery-and-university-maryland-partner-hops-production-initiative
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 23, 2017, 04:41:37 pm
I bought a beer today.  Cascade 2015 Sang Noir.

I got a growler refilled today.  Boulevard Love Child #8
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on July 24, 2017, 03:28:48 am
Quote from: herman otto on July 23, 2017, 04:41:37 pm
I bought a beer today.  Cascade 2015 Sang Noir.

I got a growler refilled today.  Boulevard Love Child #8

hell yeah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 24, 2017, 09:21:22 am
Top beers of the weekend round my parts.

1. 2015 Whiskey Barrel Aged Mexican Radio by our local friends Blue Jacket. Holy shit, not only was this the best beer I've ever had by them, but this beer was up there with Abraxas, Mexican Coffee Cake, etc. I bought this bomber two years ago and kind of just forgot about assuming it wouldn't be that great, but wow was I wrong. Would drink again (not sure if that's possible).

2. With Friends like These by De Garde. Unlike many other extremely overly tart De Garde beers, you could probably drink a bomber of this by yourself. A Wild Ale fermented & aged in oak with grapes was the perfect afternoon quencher during this heat wave.

3. Green by Tree House. Juice Bomb perfection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 24, 2017, 10:31:56 am
Quote from: Yada on July 24, 2017, 09:21:22 am
Mexican Radio by our local friends Blue Jacket.
I really enjoyed the this....didn't have the barrel aged one or one that has aged for 2 additional years...but I think it's one of their best offerings
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 24, 2017, 10:46:48 am
Quote from: Polymath-hatch🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on July 24, 2017, 10:31:56 am
Quote from: Yada on July 24, 2017, 09:21:22 am
Mexican Radio by our local friends Blue Jacket.
I really enjoyed the this....didn't have the barrel aged one or one that has aged for 2 additional years...but I think it's one of their best offerings

Yeah, Mexican Radio is/was one of my favorites of theirs as well, but this was phenomenal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 24, 2017, 05:04:28 pm
Went to Connecticut for a quick weekend trip to visit one of my best friends from high school for a BBBQ (the extra B is for BYOBB).

Flew into Hartford and stopped at Connecticut Valley Brewing Co and Counterweight as they were on the way. CT Valley only makes a couple of beers right now but I bought some of their Trailblazer NEIPA. It's murky af but rather delicious. Also sounds like I was rather fortunate as their previous batch was not as good - apparently the brewer is wildly inconsistent as they just moved to a brand new space.

Next stop was Counterweight which is a brewery I could spend a bunch of time at - nice tasting room and a chill atmosphere. Grabbed their Spiral Architect DIPA and Van Art gose. Both were great beers and I was pretty impressed with what's been a growing CT beer scene. Didn't have time for NEBCO but they sold out of FBD cans earlier in the week anyway.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 25, 2017, 08:27:32 am
Good afternoon everyone! Aslin Beer Co. and its team has been through a lot through the first half of 2017. We have continued to see tremendous growth, while also being able to have meaningful learning experiences along the way. As a result, we believe our beer is now better than ever and we aim to continue this growth as a brewery. However, in order to see more growth, we realize that we are missing one important piece. That piece is to be able to provide a unique environment that encompasses our brand and represents our team. Today, we are excited to announce that Aslin Beer Co. has found a home for our new tasting room. With the help of the Town of Herndon, our real estate agents, and architect, we will be opening our new tasting room and Sour Beer facility in downtown Herndon. Our new tasting room will have approx. 2500 sqft of interior tasting room space and 2500 sqft of outdoor space, including rooftop deck & bar, bocce ball court, and a covered deck. We are working hard for this space to be open ASAP and will continue to update along the way. Our anniversary party will take place in the parking lot of our new tasting room. As for our current space, we will continue to transition the space into production only. However due to our current growth rate, we will be investing in a new production facility, which the location is still yet to be determined. The Aslin Beer Co. team would like to thank everyone for their support through our first two years and look forward to sharing what is ahead for us with each and every one of you!

Cheers!
Aslin Beer Co.

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20264908_950902415049181_1369389912312014805_n.jpg?oh=adcbec73a55e5d6679a5a9264fec0a1f&oe=59F7906F)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 25, 2017, 09:17:57 am
bocce? is this a thing now? or does Aslin's customer base tend to be maily nonagerians?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 25, 2017, 09:53:12 am
dude...get with the times. Bocce in bars in DC has been a thing for a while
https://www.thrillist.com/drink/washington-dc/bars-with-bocce-in-washington-dc
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 25, 2017, 10:03:34 am
So what is your bocce handicap?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 25, 2017, 10:05:11 am
Quote from: Polymath-hatch🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on July 25, 2017, 09:53:12 am
dude...get with the times. Bocce in bars in DC has been a thing for a while
https://www.thrillist.com/drink/washington-dc/bars-with-bocce-in-washington-dc
I've always been a petanque man myself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 25, 2017, 10:06:36 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 16, 2009, 10:22:30 am
sleeman's cream ale... damn i miss the stuff.

(http://www.gallibeer.com/images/cream-botCan.jpg)

I wonder if Sweetcell is back to drinking Sleeman's now that he has moved back closer to Canada?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 26, 2017, 08:43:50 am
Finally a best of list that makes sense.

https://gearpatrol.com/2017/07/25/best-breweries-in-america/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 26, 2017, 09:39:44 am
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 08:43:50 am
Finally a best of list that makes sense.

https://gearpatrol.com/2017/07/25/best-breweries-in-america/

Pretty good list. I’m going to posit that Sierra must be on their for historical reasons rather than current beer reasons.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 26, 2017, 10:07:17 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 26, 2017, 09:39:44 am
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 08:43:50 am
Finally a best of list that makes sense.

https://gearpatrol.com/2017/07/25/best-breweries-in-america/

Pretty good list. I’m going to posit that Sierra must be on their for historical reasons rather than current beer reasons.

When you say, "pretty good list." What do you feel is included that shouldn't be or isn't on the list that should?

I'd argue that Surly, Three Floyds, Stillwater, and Tired Hands could be removed. I'm not 100% sure who would replace them, but otherwise an incredible solid list that covers the tops and best in the industry in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Kemosabe on July 26, 2017, 11:23:12 am
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 08:43:50 am
Finally a best of list that makes sense.

https://gearpatrol.com/2017/07/25/best-breweries-in-america/
Sweet list!  I have heard of three of them!   8)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 26, 2017, 11:24:28 am
Quote from: Kemosabe on July 26, 2017, 11:23:12 am
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 08:43:50 am
Finally a best of list that makes sense.

https://gearpatrol.com/2017/07/25/best-breweries-in-america/
Sweet list!  I have heard of three of them!   8)

Now you know how I feel when you list your top 234 albums of the year.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Kemosabe on July 26, 2017, 11:34:35 am
 8)

This year will probably be a top 40 year...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 26, 2017, 12:13:48 pm
i bought a few more single bottle beers yesterday.

perennial  hopfentea

abita   cypress kriek  cherry sour

dfh   Lupu-Luau  ipa

duclaw   Sour Me This

Wicked Weed   Coolcumber

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 26, 2017, 12:20:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 10:07:17 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 26, 2017, 09:39:44 am
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 08:43:50 am
Finally a best of list that makes sense.

https://gearpatrol.com/2017/07/25/best-breweries-in-america/

Pretty good list. I’m going to posit that Sierra must be on their for historical reasons rather than current beer reasons.

When you say, "pretty good list." What do you feel is included that shouldn't be or isn't on the list that should?

I'd argue that Surly, Three Floyds, Stillwater, and Tired Hands could be removed. I'm not 100% sure who would replace them, but otherwise an incredible solid list that covers the tops and best in the industry in my humble opinion.

I was saying "pretty good" in the positive sense. I've only had beer from 15 of the 25 (and for some of the 15, probably haven't had enough to accurately gauge them), so unsure who I would drop off. Among those I've had, Stillwater and Sierra, definitely. Probably Tired Hands.

As to who else might be considered for the list, I'm sure there's a number of breweries who I haven't had beer from (since I don't trade) that might be worthy. But among those that I have had, I would submit these contenders: Russian River, New Glarus, Holy Mountain, The Veil, Lawson's and SingleCut.

*THE ALCHEMIST – Stowe, VT
THE ALE APOTHECARY – Bend, OR
*ALLAGASH BREWING COMPANY – Portland, ME
AMERICAN SOLERA – Tulsa, OK
CASEY BREWING AND BLENDING – Glenwood Springs, CO
*CYCLE BREWING – St. Petersburg, FL
DE GARDE BREWING – Tillamook, OR
*HILL FARMSTEAD BREWERY – Greensboro Bend, VT
J. WAKEFIELD BREWING – Miami, FL
*JESTER KING BREWERY – Austin, TX
*THE LOST ABBEY – San Marcos, CA
*MAINE BEER COMPANY – Freeport, ME
MONKISH BREWING CO. – Torrance, CA
*OTHER HALF BREWING – Brooklyn, NY
SANTE ADAIRIUS RUSTIC ALES – Capitola, CA
SIDE PROJECT BREWING – Maplewood, MO
*SIERRA NEVADA BREWING COMPANY – Chico, CA
*STILLWATER ARTISANAL – Baltimore, MD/Brooklyn, NY
SUAREZ FAMILY BREWERY – Livingston, NY
*SURLY BREWING CO. – Minneapolis, MN
*TIRED HANDS BREWING COMPANY – Ardmore, PA
*THREE FLOYDS BREWING CO. – Munster, IN
*TOPPLING GOLIATH BREWING CO. – Decorah, IA
TREE HOUSE BREWING CO. – Monson, MA
*TRILLIUM BREWING COMPANY – Boston, MA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 26, 2017, 12:42:05 pm
I feel like to be a top brewery in the country, you need to have a steady amount of amazing beers that are released continuously/consistently. I don't think Lawson's would be on that list personally. They have sip which is an OG NE IPA, but other than that sporadic releases.

I could see Veil on there.

I used to love New Glarus but the last few times I've had their fruit beers, they've just been a bit too sweet.

Russian River should be on that list for sure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 26, 2017, 12:55:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 11:24:28 am
Quote from: Kemosabe on July 26, 2017, 11:23:12 am
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 08:43:50 am
Finally a best of list that makes sense.

https://gearpatrol.com/2017/07/25/best-breweries-in-america/
Sweet list!  I have heard of three of them!   8)

Now you know how I feel when you list your top 234 albums of the year.  ;D ;D ;D
^^ Quality joke.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 26, 2017, 11:58:24 pm
Quote from: herman, otto on July 26, 2017, 12:13:48 pm
i bought a few more single bottle beers yesterday.

perennial  hopfentea

abita   cypress kriek  cherry sour

dfh   Lupu-Luau  ipa

duclaw   Sour Me This

Wicked Weed   Coolcumber

so far, I have had the WW coolcumber, which was refreshing and summery with flavors of cucumber, basil and juniper berries really coming out in a unique taste.  liked, it.  the abita, I should have known better.  I did not want to judge the beer because it was abita and not some jesus just blessed this brewery . . . but their attempt of a cherry was neither cherry or sour.  weak all around.  The perennial hopfentea is really good with sour notches and a fruit forward bite.  Not sure I taste tea, but I would buy this again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2017, 09:34:38 am
Quote from: herman, otto on July 26, 2017, 11:58:24 pm
  The perennial hopfentea is really good with sour notches and a fruit forward bite.  Not sure I taste tea, but I would buy this again.
I too think this is a quality bottle, not eveyone's cup of tea, but somewhat easy to get and I think very drinkable
This is a great brewery, but this is often the only offering I see in bottle stores
Abraxas is very good, but not easy to source

MMV
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 09:39:27 am
Quote from: Polymath-hatch🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on July 27, 2017, 09:34:38 am
Quote from: herman, otto on July 26, 2017, 11:58:24 pm
  The perennial hopfentea is really good with sour notches and a fruit forward bite.  Not sure I taste tea, but I would buy this again.
I too think this is a quality bottle, not eveyone's cup of tea, but somewhat easy to get and I think very drinkable
This is a great brewery, but this is often the only offering I see in bottle stores
Abraxas is very good, but not easy to source

MMV

Hopfentea is tasty, but at $14 for a bomber, way overpriced. I liked it better when I got it as a $6 32 oz growler fill at P St WF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 27, 2017, 09:43:49 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 09:39:27 am
Quote from: Polymath-hatch🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on July 27, 2017, 09:34:38 am
Quote from: herman, otto on July 26, 2017, 11:58:24 pm
  The perennial hopfentea is really good with sour notches and a fruit forward bite.  Not sure I taste tea, but I would buy this again.
I too think this is a quality bottle, not eveyone's cup of tea, but somewhat easy to get and I think very drinkable
This is a great brewery, but this is often the only offering I see in bottle stores
Abraxas is very good, but not easy to source

MMV

Hopfentea is tasty, but at $14 for a bomber, way overpriced. I liked it better when I got it as a $6 32 oz growler fill at P St WF.

#classicSpace
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 09:51:46 am
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2017, 09:43:49 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 09:39:27 am
Quote from: Polymath-hatch🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on July 27, 2017, 09:34:38 am
Quote from: herman, otto on July 26, 2017, 11:58:24 pm
  The perennial hopfentea is really good with sour notches and a fruit forward bite.  Not sure I taste tea, but I would buy this again.
I too think this is a quality bottle, not eveyone's cup of tea, but somewhat easy to get and I think very drinkable
This is a great brewery, but this is often the only offering I see in bottle stores
Abraxas is very good, but not easy to source

MMV

Hopfentea is tasty, but at $14 for a bomber, way overpriced. I liked it better when I got it as a $6 32 oz growler fill at P St WF.

#classicSpace

Right? A bomber of Berliner weisse better be at least 4.3 on Beer Advocate to merit a $14 price tag!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2017, 10:28:05 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 09:51:46 am
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2017, 09:43:49 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 09:39:27 am
Quote from: Polymath-hatch🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on July 27, 2017, 09:34:38 am
Quote from: herman, otto on July 26, 2017, 11:58:24 pm
  The perennial hopfentea is really good with sour notches and a fruit forward bite.  Not sure I taste tea, but I would buy this again.
I too think this is a quality bottle, not eveyone's cup of tea, but somewhat easy to get and I think very drinkable
This is a great brewery, but this is often the only offering I see in bottle stores
Abraxas is very good, but not easy to source

MMV

Hopfentea is tasty, but at $14 for a bomber, way overpriced. I liked it better when I got it as a $6 32 oz growler fill at P St WF.

#classicSpace

Right? A bomber of Berliner weisse better be at least 4.3 on Beer Advocate to merit a $14 price tag!
the bros gave it a 90...
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/25888/119928/?ba=bros#review
but does seem to be more about price/review status rather than actual taste
Jules...I think we almost need to create a thread to compile all #classicspace responses
although it would be very predictable
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 10:41:12 am
Quote from: Polymath-hatch🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on July 27, 2017, 10:28:05 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 09:51:46 am
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2017, 09:43:49 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 09:39:27 am
Quote from: Polymath-hatch🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on July 27, 2017, 09:34:38 am
Quote from: herman, otto on July 26, 2017, 11:58:24 pm
  The perennial hopfentea is really good with sour notches and a fruit forward bite.  Not sure I taste tea, but I would buy this again.
I too think this is a quality bottle, not eveyone's cup of tea, but somewhat easy to get and I think very drinkable
This is a great brewery, but this is often the only offering I see in bottle stores
Abraxas is very good, but not easy to source

MMV

Hopfentea is tasty, but at $14 for a bomber, way overpriced. I liked it better when I got it as a $6 32 oz growler fill at P St WF.

#classicSpace

Right? A bomber of Berliner weisse better be at least 4.3 on Beer Advocate to merit a $14 price tag!
the bros gave it a 90...
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/25888/119928/?ba=bros#review
but does seem to be more about price/review status rather than actual taste
Jules...I think we almost need to create a thread to compile all #classicspace responses
although it would be very predictable

Fat Jason is just one of 298 people who rated it. And his 4.04 (90) is still well short of 4.3. :)

I'm just saying $14 is a lot to pay for a single bottle of a domestically brewed Berliner weisse.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 27, 2017, 10:59:10 am
Quote from: Polymath-hatch🍺 |̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅| 🍺 on July 27, 2017, 10:28:05 am
Jules...I think we almost need to create a thread to compile all #classicspace responses
although it would be very predictable
I like the idea but the hashtag doesn't seem punchy enough. Pop out a list of at least 20 possibilities, then narrow them down to your top 5 and I'll send them over to my social media team for review.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 04:43:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 12:42:05 pm
I feel like to be a top brewery in the country, you need to have a steady amount of amazing beers that are released continuously/consistently. I don't think Lawson's would be on that list personally. They have sip which is an OG NE IPA, but other than that sporadic releases.

I could see Veil on there.

I used to love New Glarus but the last few times I've had their fruit beers, they've just been a bit too sweet.

Russian River should be on that list for sure.

I might add Firestone Walker to that list as well. Their barrel aged beers and sours are top notch, their IPA are tasty (when fresh), and they make a wide range of beers and have no major weaknesses (except getting fresh product to market on time.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 27, 2017, 07:32:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 04:43:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 12:42:05 pm
I feel like to be a top brewery in the country, you need to have a steady amount of amazing beers that are released continuously/consistently. I don't think Lawson's would be on that list personally. They have sip which is an OG NE IPA, but other than that sporadic releases.

I could see Veil on there.

I used to love New Glarus but the last few times I've had their fruit beers, they've just been a bit too sweet.

Russian River should be on that list for sure.

I might add Firestone Walker to that list as well. Their barrel aged beers and sours are top notch, their IPA are tasty (when fresh), and they make a wide range of beers and have no major weaknesses (except getting fresh product to market on time.)

won't be getting anymore of my $$$

http://www.independent.com/news/2017/may/03/firestone-beer-maker-donates-250000-trump/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 08:53:17 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 27, 2017, 07:32:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 27, 2017, 04:43:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 26, 2017, 12:42:05 pm
I feel like to be a top brewery in the country, you need to have a steady amount of amazing beers that are released continuously/consistently. I don't think Lawson's would be on that list personally. They have sip which is an OG NE IPA, but other than that sporadic releases.

I could see Veil on there.

I used to love New Glarus but the last few times I've had their fruit beers, they've just been a bit too sweet.

Russian River should be on that list for sure.

I might add Firestone Walker to that list as well. Their barrel aged beers and sours are top notch, their IPA are tasty (when fresh), and they make a wide range of beers and have no major weaknesses (except getting fresh product to market on time.)

won't be getting anymore of my $$$

http://www.independent.com/news/2017/may/03/firestone-beer-maker-donates-250000-trump/

Wow, that's really unfortunate. Wish i hadn't seen that. I'll be joining you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on July 30, 2017, 08:39:08 pm
had a nice beer weekend.  I don't drink that much, or buy that often, but when I do, I like to do the best I can in my limited knowledge of the . . . craft.

pen druid brewery  -  four 750ml bottle of Laertes (Barrel fermented Sour with Viognier Grapes from Rappahannock Cellers)  6.8%

boulevard love child # 8  -  since I had on tap, I thought I would buy a bottle of it.

perennial  hopfentea   really like this beer, so I thought sure another bottle would be nice before it goes away.

cascade -  2015 Sang Du Chene   Can't wait to open this on a special occasion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 03, 2017, 11:35:38 am
Anchor bought by Saproro (http://www.sfchronicle.com/food/article/What-the-Anchor-Brewing-deal-means-for-craft-beer-11729687.php)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 03, 2017, 07:27:42 pm
Omg space dust. You guys! Space!Dust!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 04, 2017, 09:43:08 am
Quote from: excontradiction on August 03, 2017, 07:27:42 pm
Omg space dust. You guys! Space!Dust!

ABInbev.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 04, 2017, 10:32:04 am

Quote from: Space Freely on August 04, 2017, 09:43:08 am
Quote from: excontradiction on August 03, 2017, 07:27:42 pm
Omg space dust. You guys! Space!Dust!


ABInbev.


You mean its not good?  :'(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 04, 2017, 12:54:19 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on August 04, 2017, 10:32:04 am

Quote from: Space Freely on August 04, 2017, 09:43:08 am
Quote from: excontradiction on August 03, 2017, 07:27:42 pm
Omg space dust. You guys! Space!Dust!


ABInbev.


You mean its not good?  :'(

I didn't mean that. I've had it. I though it was good, though not a standout in a crowded marketplace, imo. Elysian is owned by ABInbev, which many object to. YMMV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 07, 2017, 04:46:29 pm
The Eclipse is giving me good cover to make a trip to Ashville (1 hour from the direct path)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2017, 11:52:48 am
Brewiety  (https://brewiety.com/#)
We are more than excited to announce that our next shipment is coming from the one and only Hill Farmstead Brewery! We will be sending out three different styles all in 750 ML bottles. It looks like we will be closing sign ups after this weekend so if you have ever wanted to try Hill Farmstead, now is your chance. Don't hesitate or you will miss your opportunity to have Hill Farmstead delivered direct to you.

It'll set you back $50 for three bottles
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 09, 2017, 12:23:30 pm
Quote from: Hatchonahottinroof 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 09, 2017, 11:52:48 am
Brewiety  (https://brewiety.com/#)
We are more than excited to announce that our next shipment is coming from the one and only Hill Farmstead Brewery! We will be sending out three different styles all in 750 ML bottles. It looks like we will be closing sign ups after this weekend so if you have ever wanted to try Hill Farmstead, now is your chance. Don't hesitate or you will miss your opportunity to have Hill Farmstead delivered direct to you.

It'll set you back $50 for three bottles

Did you hear that sound? That was Space pounding his desk in anger!

Also... assume $10 for shipping plus a buck or two mark up for bombers, it's actually a great deal for gneubs that have never had a HF bottle. I'm assuming you're getting the shelfies.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2017, 01:54:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2017, 12:23:30 pm
Quote from: Hatchonahottinroof 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 09, 2017, 11:52:48 am
Brewiety  (https://brewiety.com/#)
We are more than excited to announce that our next shipment is coming from the one and only Hill Farmstead Brewery! We will be sending out three different styles all in 750 ML bottles. It looks like we will be closing sign ups after this weekend so if you have ever wanted to try Hill Farmstead, now is your chance. Don't hesitate or you will miss your opportunity to have Hill Farmstead delivered direct to you.

It'll set you back $50 for three bottles

Did you hear that sound? That was Space pounding his desk in anger!

Also... assume $10 for shipping plus a buck or two mark up for bombers, it's actually a great deal for gneubs that have never had a HF bottle. I'm assuming you're getting the shelfies.
$50 includes the shipping...so really only $16.50 a bomber of stuff that is pretty much impossible to get with out a 15 hour drive and wait in a line
so doesn't pass the space test...not a truly horrible deal

Brewity doesn't have a lot of details, but they stress that Freshness is really important and they some times get special batches made just for them

Also says you can cancel at anytime

I still a n00b in the bear world...what's a shelfie?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 09, 2017, 01:57:19 pm
Quote from: Hatchonahottinroof 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 09, 2017, 01:54:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2017, 12:23:30 pm
Quote from: Hatchonahottinroof 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 09, 2017, 11:52:48 am
Brewiety  (https://brewiety.com/#)
We are more than excited to announce that our next shipment is coming from the one and only Hill Farmstead Brewery! We will be sending out three different styles all in 750 ML bottles. It looks like we will be closing sign ups after this weekend so if you have ever wanted to try Hill Farmstead, now is your chance. Don't hesitate or you will miss your opportunity to have Hill Farmstead delivered direct to you.

It'll set you back $50 for three bottles

Did you hear that sound? That was Space pounding his desk in anger!

Also... assume $10 for shipping plus a buck or two mark up for bombers, it's actually a great deal for gneubs that have never had a HF bottle. I'm assuming you're getting the shelfies.
$50 includes the shipping...so really only $16.50 a bomber of stuff that is pretty much impossible to get with out a 15 hour drive and wait in a line
so doesn't pass the space test...not a truly horrible deal

Brewity doesn't have a lot of details, but they stress that Freshness is really important and they some times get special batches made just for them

Also says you can cancel at anytime

I still a n00b in the bear world...what's a shelfie?

Yes, exactly... $50 is a good deal is what I'm saying.

The "shelfies" (beer you can just get off the shelf at HF or possibly some corner stores in VT) are roughly $10 to $12 a bottle (Anna, Arthur, Dorothy, etc.) So $50 all in isn't bad for three bottles of beer that are world class and you've never tried (unless you're space), then this is a god awful deal.

Also, no lines for shelfies at HF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 09, 2017, 02:13:12 pm
Quote from: Hatchonahottinroof 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 09, 2017, 01:54:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2017, 12:23:30 pm
Quote from: Hatchonahottinroof 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 09, 2017, 11:52:48 am
Brewiety  (https://brewiety.com/#)
We are more than excited to announce that our next shipment is coming from the one and only Hill Farmstead Brewery! We will be sending out three different styles all in 750 ML bottles. It looks like we will be closing sign ups after this weekend so if you have ever wanted to try Hill Farmstead, now is your chance. Don't hesitate or you will miss your opportunity to have Hill Farmstead delivered direct to you.

It'll set you back $50 for three bottles

Did you hear that sound? That was Space pounding his desk in anger!

Also... assume $10 for shipping plus a buck or two mark up for bombers, it's actually a great deal for gneubs that have never had a HF bottle. I'm assuming you're getting the shelfies.
$50 includes the shipping...so really only $16.50 a bomber of stuff that is pretty much impossible to get with out a 15 hour drive and wait in a line
so doesn't pass the space test...not a truly horrible deal

Brewity doesn't have a lot of details, but they stress that Freshness is really important and they some times get special batches made just for them

Also says you can cancel at anytime

I still a n00b in the bear world...what's a shelfie?

$16.67.

Only a 15 hour drive if you're going there from South Carolina.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2017, 02:40:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 09, 2017, 02:13:12 pm
Only a 15 hour drive if you're going there from South Carolina.
so no food/pee/gas or sightseeing breaks?
it's 10 hours door to door if your lucky and then a few hour wait when you get there
so I stand by my 15 hour estimate

then you have to go home...so $16.67 sounds like a good deal to me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 09, 2017, 04:21:02 pm
Battle of the "thrifty"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 09, 2017, 04:52:41 pm
Was there last month. Nowhere near 15 hours. And, yes, you do wait in line for shelfies there.

Less than $17 each is a fine deal all things considered. Personally, it's a bit of a gamble as its probably Arthur or another common beer that I dont really need at the moment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 09:26:23 am
Another sellout.

Constellation Strengthens its Position in High-End Beer
 VICTOR, N.Y., Aug. 10, 2017 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Constellation Brands, Inc. (NYSE:STZ) (NYSE:STZ.B), a leading beverage alcohol company, announced today its purchase of Florida-based Funky Buddha Brewery, reinforcing its strategy to lead the high-end beer segment in the United States. Funky Buddha is the fastest growing craft brewery in Florida, and produces bold craft beers made with high quality ingredients. It has an award-winning portfolio led by Floridian Hefeweizen and Hop Gun IPA. Funky Buddha joins Constellation's Craft & Specialty Beer Group in the beer division.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 10, 2017, 09:32:26 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 09, 2017, 04:52:41 pm
Was there last month. Nowhere near 15 hours. And, yes, you do wait in line for shelfies there.

Less than $17 each is a fine deal all things considered. Personally, it's a bit of a gamble as its probably Arthur or another common beer that I dont really need at the moment.

I've never actually had a bad experience getting bottles there, just growlers.... however, post expansion it wasn't really bad for growlers.

Quote from: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 09:26:23 am
Another sellout.

Constellation Strengthens its Position in High-End Beer
 VICTOR, N.Y., Aug. 10, 2017 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Constellation Brands, Inc. (NYSE:STZ) (NYSE:STZ.B), a leading beverage alcohol company, announced today its purchase of Florida-based Funky Buddha Brewery, reinforcing its strategy to lead the high-end beer segment in the United States. Funky Buddha is the fastest growing craft brewery in Florida, and produces bold craft beers made with high quality ingredients. It has an award-winning portfolio led by Floridian Hefeweizen and Hop Gun IPA. Funky Buddha joins Constellation's Craft & Specialty Beer Group in the beer division.

Meh... who cares! Even their *GOOD* beers were just ok, IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 09:46:26 am
Quote from: Yada on August 10, 2017, 09:32:26 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 09, 2017, 04:52:41 pm
Was there last month. Nowhere near 15 hours. And, yes, you do wait in line for shelfies there.

Less than $17 each is a fine deal all things considered. Personally, it's a bit of a gamble as its probably Arthur or another common beer that I dont really need at the moment.

I've never actually had a bad experience getting bottles there, just growlers.... however, post expansion it wasn't really bad for growlers.

Did you go on a weekday or the weekend? My brother is going through there for the first time on an upstate New York to (Acadia) Maine and back road trip and wondering what advice he needs in regard to HF,the Alchemist, and grabbing some Lawson's.

Side note: I tried to convince him to hit a bunch of Maine breweries, but he's only hitting Allagash, Maine Beer Company, and some crappy place up near Acadia. Hell, he should at least hit Bissell Brothers and (right across the street from Allagash) Austin Street and Foundation too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 10, 2017, 09:50:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 09:46:26 am
Quote from: Yada on August 10, 2017, 09:32:26 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 09, 2017, 04:52:41 pm
Was there last month. Nowhere near 15 hours. And, yes, you do wait in line for shelfies there.

Less than $17 each is a fine deal all things considered. Personally, it's a bit of a gamble as its probably Arthur or another common beer that I dont really need at the moment.

I've never actually had a bad experience getting bottles there, just growlers.... however, post expansion it wasn't really bad for growlers.

Did you go on a weekday or the weekend? My brother is going through there for the first time on an upstate New York to (Acadia) Maine and back road trip and wondering what advice he needs in regard to HF,the Alchemist, and grabbing some Lawson's.

Side note: I tried to convince him to hit a bunch of Maine breweries, but he's only hitting Allagash, Maine Beer Company, and some crappy place up near Acadia. Hell, he should at least hit Bissell Brothers and (right across the street from Allagash) Austin Street and Foundation too.

Is your brother riding in the back of my car? I'm taking a very similar trip in the coming days.

The last time I was at HF was a Friday. Lawson's you can purchase at basically any store in Vermont with a decent beer selection. Heady as far as I know these days isn't tough to get, but it's brewery only.

I'd suggest he goes to Trillium (canton location) and load up on shit loads of beer (typically four to six styles, high limits, low lines) and skip out on some of those mediocre Maine stops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 10:02:08 am
Quote from: Yada on August 10, 2017, 09:50:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 09:46:26 am
Quote from: Yada on August 10, 2017, 09:32:26 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 09, 2017, 04:52:41 pm
Was there last month. Nowhere near 15 hours. And, yes, you do wait in line for shelfies there.

Less than $17 each is a fine deal all things considered. Personally, it's a bit of a gamble as its probably Arthur or another common beer that I dont really need at the moment.

I've never actually had a bad experience getting bottles there, just growlers.... however, post expansion it wasn't really bad for growlers.

Did you go on a weekday or the weekend? My brother is going through there for the first time on an upstate New York to (Acadia) Maine and back road trip and wondering what advice he needs in regard to HF,the Alchemist, and grabbing some Lawson's.

Side note: I tried to convince him to hit a bunch of Maine breweries, but he's only hitting Allagash, Maine Beer Company, and some crappy place up near Acadia. Hell, he should at least hit Bissell Brothers and (right across the street from Allagash) Austin Street and Foundation too.

Is your brother riding in the back of my car? I'm taking a very similar trip in the coming days.

The last time I was at HF was a Friday. Lawson's you can purchase at basically any store in Vermont with a decent beer selection. Heady as far as I know these days isn't tough to get, but it's brewery only.

I'd suggest he goes to Trillium (canton location) and load up on shit loads of beer (typically four to six styles, high limits, low lines) and skip out on some of those mediocre Maine stops.

He is driving from Ithaca to New Hampshire, then up the coast. Then back to Ithaca via Vermont. Hence, I think he will miss Trillium.

However, it does look like Tree House is on his route. Hence, I just emailed him to tell him that he HAS to go there. But of course, he won't, because he's a stubborn a-hole who thinks he knows it all. He is going to fucking Smuttynose though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 10, 2017, 10:04:33 am
LOL.

Dem smuttynose whalez.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 10:04:58 am
Speaking of Trillium, have I ever told the story of how I once took several co-workers to the original Trillium tasting room, back before the new place existed, when the old place still did free tastings? All of my co-workers, except one, hated the beer there. One of them still picks on me for my "poor taste in beer" to this day.

Fuckem.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 10, 2017, 10:18:58 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 10:02:08 am
. But of course, he won't, because he's a stubborn a-hole who thinks he knows it all.
wait were you talking about yourself in the third person there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 10, 2017, 10:35:41 am
After all these years, I finally discovered the Lagunitas Little Sumpin' Extra on draft, no less.  Delicious DIPA with a nice carmelly malt backbone. Dangerous at 8.5 abv. Got me a crowler...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 10:39:18 am
Quote from: Hatchonahottinroof 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 10, 2017, 10:18:58 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 10:02:08 am
. But of course, he won't, because he's a stubborn a-hole who thinks he knows it all.
wait were you talking about yourself in the third person there?

Haha. There's a lot I don't know much about. But I do know if you like beer and are driving across the Mass Turnpike, you sure as fuck better be stopping at Tree House. Unless you don't really like beer after all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 10, 2017, 11:09:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 10, 2017, 10:39:18 am
Haha. There's a lot I don't know much about.
#humblespace
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 11, 2017, 12:07:07 pm
Magnolia Brewing Company, which has a restaurant a stone's throw from Chateau de Smackie, was bought out of bankruptcy by New Belgium yesterday.

Turn that place into a New Belgium tasting room and Smackie will drink more beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2017, 03:38:21 pm
Mmm... Had some Love child #8 by boulevard..  so good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 12, 2017, 04:49:56 pm
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 12, 2017, 03:38:21 pm
Mmm... Had some Love child #8 by boulevard..  so good

Indeed it is. Super sour, a definite sipper.

I actually had it on draft at Max's in Baltimore. I love Max's and how they basically charge the same price for 12 ounces of Love Child and 16 ounces of Two Hearted. I think they soak the bros on the everyday beers so they can keep the premium beer prices reasonable. Kudos to them for that...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 14, 2017, 01:40:34 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/z9y3UMB.jpg)
 
so the missus has just come back from Vermont, and clearly she loves me...

yes, that's a case of Heady, a case of Sunshine, and two cans of Tribute.  2 soldiers didn't survive the trip.  first time i've heard of cans not making it, then again this suitcase had nothing but beer in it, no clothes for protection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 16, 2017, 04:49:40 pm
...my wife got me some leftovers from her company party :(

So thinking of making a overnight in Roanoke ...what's the beer scene there
I know Deschutes and Ballast Point are close...but would rather find a cool local brewery

Or is there a better beer related pit stop on the way to Asheville.

and on the asheville topic...I know wicked weed is all corp now, I still am going to check it out
any recommendations on 2 other breweries to hit
Burial was on the list, but looking for suggestions (also, kid friendly would help)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 16, 2017, 05:06:44 pm
...which gets me thinking.

What's the best beer that has been bought out by the Big 3 (or is it Big 2 now?)?  What beer would you still drink *even though* it's owned by AB-InBev etc.?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 16, 2017, 10:10:15 pm
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 16, 2017, 04:49:40 pm
...my wife got me some leftovers from her company party :(

So thinking of making a overnight in Roanoke ...what's the beer scene there
I know Deschutes and Ballast Point are close...but would rather find a cool local brewery

Or is there a better beer related pit stop on the way to Asheville.

and on the asheville topic...I know wicked weed is all corp now, I still am going to check it out
any recommendations on 2 other breweries to hit
Burial was on the list, but looking for suggestions (also, kid friendly would help)

We overnighted in Roanoke when we did Asheville for Spring Break. Didn't hit any breweries, though Parkway in Salem was on the radar. Depending on your route, Appalachian Mountain Brewing in Boone and Fonta Flora in Morganton are highly recommended.

If you go to Wicked Weed, Funkatorium has a much cooler vibe than the main Wicked Weed. But if you insist on going to the main Wicked Weed, the basement (I think it opens after 2 or 3 or something) is the place to go for the best beer.

My favorite kid-friendly brewery we went to in Asheville was actually New Belgium. They have a slide on the tour, just like in Ft Collins. They have a huge lawn where the kids can roam, play frisbee, or whatever. Good food trucks. Dogs everywhere. Free craft soda (or was it juice?) on tap for the kids. Generous samples, including La Folie, on the free tour (and unlike Sierra Nevada, you don't have to sign up months in advance to score a spot on the tour). Pleasant river view. Also, check out White Duck Taco for casual eats and Curate for a more fancy meal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 16, 2017, 10:23:36 pm
I was dating a young lady from Roanoke a few years back and we did a beer bus thing that was kind of fun. None of the breweries were fantastic but Flying Mouse was definitely the best. Very family friendly too, roasting marshmallows and whatnot outside. It's probably 25 minutes outside of Roanoke proper, though.

The downtown brewery we started at was pretty Ok but I'd have to research the name for you tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on August 16, 2017, 10:34:31 pm
Aren't you a, dear.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 16, 2017, 10:43:42 pm
Quote from: herman, otto on August 16, 2017, 10:34:31 pm
Aren't you a, dear.
I have, my, moments.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 17, 2017, 09:42:40 am
WASHINGTON — Famed California craft brewing company, The Bruery, is opening its first brick-and-mortar store east of the Mississippi this fall in D.C.’s Union Market district.

The 5,000 square-foot shop at 513 Morse St. NE will sell bottles and cans from The Bruery’s three brands (The Bruery, Bruery Terreux and Offshoot Beer Co.) — including special releases — and will serve as a pickup site for the brewery’s Society (club) members.

A news release from the company says the shop could also have up to eight rotating taps for growler and crowler fills.

The Bruery Store at Union Market (the former home of Kramer & Sons butcher shop) is on track to open in November for bottle pickups of the brewery’s special Black Tuesday release. Society memberships for the 2018 calendar year will also be available this fall.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 17, 2017, 05:31:55 pm
For dinner, we're having Dominoes Pizza (won a free gift certificate at a kid's function, definitely not paying for it) and a Veil DIPA. Should be an interesting combo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 21, 2017, 11:43:12 am
We bought a few beers last week on our #maine vacation. Maine is an amazing state and I hope to return again in the very near future. I hadn't been in 13 years.

Tree House – Absolute hop #mecca. The new brewery is one of the nicest (if not the nicest brewery I’ve ever been to). Phish blasting on outdoor speakers upon arrival, other random white guy reggae playing as well that I didn’t recognize. A massive pavilion with tons of outdoor seating and the stars aligned on both of my Friday stops and there was a 15 minute wait for cans the first night and a zero minute wait for cans the second stop. For the amount of people stopping in and beer they produce a day, couldn’t be more organized. Second stop they were also pouring drafts of three beers. A+, would go again. Maxed out on 16 cans both stops. Family/Kid friendly, wish I lived beside it.

Trillium – Walked in to the Canton location, no line, maxed out on cans with my partner and we were there for approximately 17 minutes. Looked like an awesome place to hang for multiple hours and get rocked, but alas I had to drive 9 hours home. There were probably 15 beers on tap and five cans for sale.

Bissell Brothers – Warehouse-y type brewery with minimal out door space. Hip hop in the back ground, A+ beers, kid friendly, and a ridiculous fried chicken joint that is connected to it for your dining pleasure. Bought a bunch of cans, no lines.

Allagash – Gorgeous facility, great out door space, didn’t drink there, just bought a few bottles of Resurgram and Emile. The host who I recognized immediately was a former bartender at Bluejacket. I chatted with him about how much I loved Maine and I wish I could move there. He agreed and said it was mind blowing how much his costs went down moving north (Space approved).

Foundation – Had a few tasters, nothing to write home about, their hops don’t touch anything else in the area. Bought a four pack of a pretty tasty sour. Warehouse-y, concrete outdoor space, food truck.

Oxbow – Sleeper brewery of the trip and just a block from our Air B+B in Portland. Kid friendly, down tempo house/funk playing, not crowded, Duck Fat restaurant serving food outside one day, not the other day. Momoko was my favorite beer of the trip and I loaded up on multiple bottles. Family friendly, chill spot.

Lone Pine Brewing – Tiny warehouse brewery as well, had a taster of a handful of beers and was in/out in 10 minutes. Bought some cans, nothing to write home about, had a food truck outside.

(https://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25376/2537654316beeb24fc1bb039ea1c294cfceea804.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 21, 2017, 01:56:27 pm
Well done.

Is Tree House only available on site? Visiting Boston this weekend and will stop by Trillium but have never had Tree House.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 21, 2017, 03:11:50 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 21, 2017, 01:56:27 pm
Well done.

Is Tree House only available on site? Visiting Boston this weekend and will stop by Trillium but have never had Tree House.

Tree House is only available at their brewery and pours happen completely random based on how busy the brewery is. Definitely follow their website/twitter account as they update it basically hourly on busy days. Also, since their new location opened, they've never released new cans on Saturday, so I'd recommend any day but Saturday as they only release leftovers (which lasts maybe an hour or two).

As I said, I could've been completely lucky but COB seems to be the best time to arrive for zero crowds and guaranteed beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 23, 2017, 08:09:21 am
Regarding Yada's trip:

Wow, that's a pretty impressive trip and brewery list! You drove all the way to at least Portland (I'm guessing you went further north but probably didn't hit and breweries north of Portland?) with two young children? That there is a Space-approved vacation! Sadly, My wife would never let me plan a vacation with that much driving.

I did the Boston to Acadia drive and back a few years ago, with my mom. Documented well somewhere in this thread. Included in the list were the middle five on your list. Bissell was in the same complex as Foundation at the time, Trillium only had their South Boston location, and Oxbox only had their location up in Newcastle.

Maine is currently running as our second choice for Summer Vacation 2018 (only picking one though,) behind the Canadian Rockies. If beer were the highest priority, pretty clear it would be in the lead....

 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 23, 2017, 08:13:56 am
Quote from: Yada on August 10, 2017, 10:04:33 am
LOL.

Dem smuttynose whalez.

The latest word from my brother:

"I emailed Tree Top to see if they would have cans at 2pm on a Saturday, when i'd be driving by. They said 'unlikely', so I won't be stopping."

Still hitting Smuttynose for drafts though...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 23, 2017, 01:44:20 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 23, 2017, 08:09:21 am
Regarding Yada's trip:

Wow, that's a pretty impressive trip and brewery list! You drove all the way to at least Portland (I'm guessing you went further north but probably didn't hit and breweries north of Portland?) with two young children? That there is a Space-approved vacation! Sadly, My wife would never let me plan a vacation with that much driving.

I did the Boston to Acadia drive and back a few years ago, with my mom. Documented well somewhere in this thread. Included in the list were the middle five on your list. Bissell was in the same complex as Foundation at the time, Trillium only had their South Boston location, and Oxbox only had their location up in Newcastle.

Maine is currently running as our second choice for Summer Vacation 2018 (only picking one though,) behind the Canadian Rockies. If beer were the highest priority, pretty clear it would be in the lead....

Many, many, many, many discussions were had about the logistics of this trip. We took our first trip with two children to Florida in March and it was an airport/rental of items disaster and I really didn't want to go down that path again.

Additionally, we didn't want to fall into the doing the same trip every year (rehoboth/obx), so we decided to switch it up. We definitely considered flying (but see Florida issues), so we drove. I also found a pretty cool website that factored in time/effort/gas/airport time/rentals/expenses; definitely space approved) and in the end, we probably lost a few hours driving, but that was about it. The drive up really couldn't have been worse we we even looked at one way flights home for my wife/children, but ended up leaving at 3pm on our way home (kids slept from 8pm to 2:30am), so it wasn't too bad.

Yes, we went north of Portland (Rockland, Linconville, Camden, etc) but it was pretty much a beer desert and I stuck to drinking the TH cans I purchased and Budweiser bottles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 24, 2017, 01:13:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 23, 2017, 01:44:20 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 23, 2017, 08:09:21 am
Regarding Yada's trip:

Wow, that's a pretty impressive trip and brewery list! You drove all the way to at least Portland (I'm guessing you went further north but probably didn't hit and breweries north of Portland?) with two young children? That there is a Space-approved vacation! Sadly, My wife would never let me plan a vacation with that much driving.

I did the Boston to Acadia drive and back a few years ago, with my mom. Documented well somewhere in this thread. Included in the list were the middle five on your list. Bissell was in the same complex as Foundation at the time, Trillium only had their South Boston location, and Oxbox only had their location up in Newcastle.

Maine is currently running as our second choice for Summer Vacation 2018 (only picking one though,) behind the Canadian Rockies. If beer were the highest priority, pretty clear it would be in the lead....

Many, many, many, many discussions were had about the logistics of this trip. We took our first trip with two children to Florida in March and it was an airport/rental of items disaster and I really didn't want to go down that path again.

Additionally, we didn't want to fall into the doing the same trip every year (rehoboth/obx), so we decided to switch it up. We definitely considered flying (but see Florida issues), so we drove. I also found a pretty cool website that factored in time/effort/gas/airport time/rentals/expenses; definitely space approved) and in the end, we probably lost a few hours driving, but that was about it. The drive up really couldn't have been worse we we even looked at one way flights home for my wife/children, but ended up leaving at 3pm on our way home (kids slept from 8pm to 2:30am), so it wasn't too bad.

Yes, we went north of Portland (Rockland, Linconville, Camden, etc) but it was pretty much a beer desert and I stuck to drinking the TH cans I purchased and Budweiser bottles.

So Maine Beer Company didn't make the cut? Their space feels like a factory outlet store, and the bottles are as nearly overpriced there as they are here, but a pint of Lunch is never a bad thing. That said, I'd go with Allagash and Bissell Brothers and perhaps even Oxbow over MBC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 24, 2017, 01:19:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 24, 2017, 01:13:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 23, 2017, 01:44:20 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 23, 2017, 08:09:21 am
Regarding Yada's trip:

Wow, that's a pretty impressive trip and brewery list! You drove all the way to at least Portland (I'm guessing you went further north but probably didn't hit and breweries north of Portland?) with two young children? That there is a Space-approved vacation! Sadly, My wife would never let me plan a vacation with that much driving.

I did the Boston to Acadia drive and back a few years ago, with my mom. Documented well somewhere in this thread. Included in the list were the middle five on your list. Bissell was in the same complex as Foundation at the time, Trillium only had their South Boston location, and Oxbox only had their location up in Newcastle.

Maine is currently running as our second choice for Summer Vacation 2018 (only picking one though,) behind the Canadian Rockies. If beer were the highest priority, pretty clear it would be in the lead....

Many, many, many, many discussions were had about the logistics of this trip. We took our first trip with two children to Florida in March and it was an airport/rental of items disaster and I really didn't want to go down that path again.

Additionally, we didn't want to fall into the doing the same trip every year (rehoboth/obx), so we decided to switch it up. We definitely considered flying (but see Florida issues), so we drove. I also found a pretty cool website that factored in time/effort/gas/airport time/rentals/expenses; definitely space approved) and in the end, we probably lost a few hours driving, but that was about it. The drive up really couldn't have been worse we we even looked at one way flights home for my wife/children, but ended up leaving at 3pm on our way home (kids slept from 8pm to 2:30am), so it wasn't too bad.

Yes, we went north of Portland (Rockland, Linconville, Camden, etc) but it was pretty much a beer desert and I stuck to drinking the TH cans I purchased and Budweiser bottles.

So Maine Beer Company didn't make the cut? Their space feels like a factory outlet store, and the bottles are as nearly overpriced there as they are here, but a pint of Lunch is never a bad thing. That said, I'd go with Allagash and Bissell Brothers and perhaps even Oxbow over MBC.

We really didn't drink much at any brewery other than Bissell and the goal was to get out of distro beers, so Maine Beer Co was easily removed from the equation. Also, other than Lunch/Dinner, no interest in wasting my calories on any of their beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 24, 2017, 08:23:22 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 12, 2017, 04:49:56 pm
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 12, 2017, 03:38:21 pm
Mmm... Had some Love child #8 by boulevard..  so good

Indeed it is. Super sour, a definite sipper.
Mine was on draft at Rustico...but was like $8 for 10 oz
but got surprise today when in Safeway...big bottle for $6.99!
space pricing on aisle 8
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 24, 2017, 08:42:05 pm
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 24, 2017, 08:23:22 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 12, 2017, 04:49:56 pm
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on August 12, 2017, 03:38:21 pm
Mmm... Had some Love child #8 by boulevard..  so good

Indeed it is. Super sour, a definite sipper.
Mine was on draft at Rustico...but was like $8 for 10 oz
but got surprise today when in Safeway...big bottle for $6.99!
space pricing on aisle 8

Wow, that's sweet. Which Safeway?

I recently discovered my nearest Safeway actually has a decent beer selection, much better than the Giant near my house, but not as good as the Whole Foods near my house.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 25, 2017, 08:57:46 am
http://tenemu.com/news/founders-rereleasing-canadian-breakfast-stout-part-2017-barrel-aged-series/08/2017
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 25, 2017, 09:42:17 am
Quote from: Yada on August 25, 2017, 08:57:46 am
http://tenemu.com/news/founders-rereleasing-canadian-breakfast-stout-part-2017-barrel-aged-series/08/2017

Great! My wife is going to hate this news. I won a lottery at one of the VA Whole Foods back in 2011 that allowed me to purchase a bottle. Maybe it will be a little easier to come by this time around.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 25, 2017, 12:54:38 pm
Central New York State is a beer wasteland compared to a lot of places, so I never expect much in terms of beer when I go to visit relatives there.

However, I did find out that Prison City has the best IPA in America, at least according to Paste Magazine.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/08/247-of-the-best-american-ipas-blind-tasted-and-ran.html?p=4

Was it the best? Probably not, but I was still pretty surprised by how good it was.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 25, 2017, 09:33:18 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 24, 2017, 08:42:05 pm
but got surprise today when in Safeway...big bottle for $6.99!
there is unintentional fake news in there
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on August 26, 2017, 02:33:05 pm
People of the country are deciding to go brewery.  It is amazing the sudden growth of the public brewery in Loudoun, Fauquier, Rappahannock, Frederick, Shenandoah, Warren Counties, and the talk of people who are excited about the prospects of not having to always go to a bar or store to get "beer."  Just the other day, in the office, there were customers talking about the ideas of costs versus plans of doing such a venture in the area.

fas,cinating to see first hand how beer is attempting to rival all, the damn wineries in our area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 28, 2017, 02:51:26 pm
Did a weeklong vacation that we split up between Lake George and Vermont. Let's just focus on the latter part in regards to the beer element...

Drove to Waterbury first and hit up the new Alchemist brewery. Gorgeous space with no line, was able to walk right up and buy two cases of Heady, Skadoosh, and Crusher with ease between my wife and I. We then hit up Idletyme for lunch before going to Sunflower Natural Foods to buy some Sip. After that, we checked out Cabot and Champlain Chocolates before going on the Ben and Jerry's tour. Once we checked into the Stagecoach B&B, we grabbed dinner at Prohibition Pig (poutine topped with chopped pork!) and then got beers at Blackback, one of my all-time favorite bars.

The next morning we hiked the Pinnacle trail at Stowe, then drove up to Hill Farmstead where I proceeded to buy a ton of bottles for friends as well a case of cans (!) which they don't advertise, thankfully to avoid a #lines situation a la Tree House. We then made our way to Burlington where we grabbed dinner at Farmhouse and called it a night after a very filling dinner that featured their trademark skillet cornbread. The next day we stopped at Foam where I got some growler fills before driving back down to Lake George - was a day shy of their can release but what can you do. Considering we only spent two nights in VT we definitely made the most of it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 28, 2017, 03:00:47 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on August 28, 2017, 02:51:26 pm
Did a weeklong vacation that we split up between Lake George and Vermont. Let's just focus on the latter part in regards to the beer element...

Drove to Waterbury first and hit up the new Alchemist brewery. Gorgeous space with no line, was able to walk right up and buy two cases of Heady, Skadoosh, and Crusher with ease between my wife and I. We then hit up Idletyme for lunch before going to Sunflower Natural Foods to buy some Sip. After that, we checked out Cabot and Champlain Chocolates before going on the Ben and Jerry's tour. Once we checked into the Stagecoach B&B, we grabbed dinner at Prohibition Pig (poutine topped with chopped pork!) and then got beers at Blackback, one of my all-time favorite bars.

The next morning we hiked the Pinnacle trail at Stowe, then drove up to Hill Farmstead where I proceeded to buy a ton of bottles for friends as well a case of cans (!) which they don't advertise, thankfully to avoid a #lines situation a la Tree House. We then made our way to Burlington where we grabbed dinner at Farmhouse and called it a night after a very filling dinner that featured their trademark skillet cornbread. The next day we stopped at Foam where I got some growler fills before driving back down to Lake George - was a day shy of their can release but what can you do. Considering we only spent two nights in VT we definitely made the most of it.

Sounds like an awesome trip! Did you take the kiddos to all of those beer stops?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 28, 2017, 03:38:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 28, 2017, 03:00:47 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on August 28, 2017, 02:51:26 pm
Did a weeklong vacation that we split up between Lake George and Vermont. Let's just focus on the latter part in regards to the beer element...

Drove to Waterbury first and hit up the new Alchemist brewery. Gorgeous space with no line, was able to walk right up and buy two cases of Heady, Skadoosh, and Crusher with ease between my wife and I. We then hit up Idletyme for lunch before going to Sunflower Natural Foods to buy some Sip. After that, we checked out Cabot and Champlain Chocolates before going on the Ben and Jerry's tour. Once we checked into the Stagecoach B&B, we grabbed dinner at Prohibition Pig (poutine topped with chopped pork!) and then got beers at Blackback, one of my all-time favorite bars.

The next morning we hiked the Pinnacle trail at Stowe, then drove up to Hill Farmstead where I proceeded to buy a ton of bottles for friends as well a case of cans (!) which they don't advertise, thankfully to avoid a #lines situation a la Tree House. We then made our way to Burlington where we grabbed dinner at Farmhouse and called it a night after a very filling dinner that featured their trademark skillet cornbread. The next day we stopped at Foam where I got some growler fills before driving back down to Lake George - was a day shy of their can release but what can you do. Considering we only spent two nights in VT we definitely made the most of it.

Sounds like an awesome trip! Did you take the kiddos to all of those beer stops?

Had my parents watch them back at their house in upstate NY, hence took advantage of every second of it! A lot off it was family-friendly, though. We almost took the ferry back from Burlington to NY, but we might save that when we bring the kids next time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 29, 2017, 08:44:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 28, 2017, 03:00:47 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on August 28, 2017, 02:51:26 pm
Did a weeklong vacation that we split up between Lake George and Vermont. Let's just focus on the latter part in regards to the beer element...

Drove to Waterbury first and hit up the new Alchemist brewery. Gorgeous space with no line, was able to walk right up and buy two cases of Heady, Skadoosh, and Crusher with ease between my wife and I. We then hit up Idletyme for lunch before going to Sunflower Natural Foods to buy some Sip. After that, we checked out Cabot and Champlain Chocolates before going on the Ben and Jerry's tour. Once we checked into the Stagecoach B&B, we grabbed dinner at Prohibition Pig (poutine topped with chopped pork!) and then got beers at Blackback, one of my all-time favorite bars.

The next morning we hiked the Pinnacle trail at Stowe, then drove up to Hill Farmstead where I proceeded to buy a ton of bottles for friends as well a case of cans (!) which they don't advertise, thankfully to avoid a #lines situation a la Tree House. We then made our way to Burlington where we grabbed dinner at Farmhouse and called it a night after a very filling dinner that featured their trademark skillet cornbread. The next day we stopped at Foam where I got some growler fills before driving back down to Lake George - was a day shy of their can release but what can you do. Considering we only spent two nights in VT we definitely made the most of it.

Sounds like an awesome trip! Did you take the kiddos to all of those beer stops?

I ask in part because once the kiddos hit the age of 10 or so, the question is no longer "Is the brewery kid friendly? (To me, that just means how many patrons are of  the 20something "you better not bring your kid into my adult playground" mentality, because, otherwise, I've always found pretty much all breweries/brewpubs/tasting rooms themselves to be kid-friendly, except for Flying Dog, which I guess is a SUPER COOL place because it's adults only.) At about 10 or so, the question becomes "Is the kid brewery friendly?" Meaning, they start having their own opinions about where they want to go, and if you're going to drag the kid to a beer establishment, that brewpub better have French fries, or that tasting room better have a pinball machine/skee ball/pool table/foosball, or the kid is going to protest going.

We made it up to a couple of new (to us) breweries up in the Watkins Glen area a couple of weekends ago. Beer was nothing to write home about, but the presence of pinball machine/skee ball/pool table/foosball was greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 29, 2017, 10:23:48 am
Aslin has bocce courts coming!

There was a time you couldn't bring kids to a bar, not sure how breweries got around that.
I guess if they are accompanied by an parent, the law is more lax?

I think kid friendly means having some outdoor space that they can run around and play on things.  Board games can sometimes help...especially life size jenga
Food or Food truck is a must...if my kids are bored and we are putting a halt to screen time...food calms the savage beast every time

if a dc area brewery had pinball/skee ball...I'd be there regularly

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on August 29, 2017, 10:36:05 am
Vanish is probably the most kid-friendly brewery I've been to thus far. Between the live music, frisbee golf, large picnic areas, and kid-accessible menu, it's a great spot with plenty of options to keep the kids entertained. And the beer is pretty good, too!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 29, 2017, 10:42:43 am
nice tip BnB!
been turning the kids on to Disc Golf this summer...now a perfect destination
"hey, let's go play Frisbee golf kids"
"yeah!!"
"oh wow had no idea there was a brewery here"

Is this indoor disc golf??  (only info I found online)

I've found live music to be annoying at most breweries
too loud and they typically suck (other wise they'd be playing 930 ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 05, 2017, 10:48:04 am
Drank a good amount of beer this weekend. Killshot from an epiQ share on Saturday, too many high lights but my favorites were Vinalla Rye, Cellador Ales, Monkish, De Garde, and a few 3F bottles.

(https://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25413/25413739bf22e2b73d691f884ea4b6dcd735285d.jpg)

Additionally, had a BBQ on Sunday with two sixtel kegs from Ocelot. Break My Balls IPA was soft, tropical, and delicious. Sunnyside Dweller was a nice, crisp pilsner.

Both kegs were #spaceapproved at roughly 12 cents an ounce, can't beat that price even at whole foods growler stations!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 05, 2017, 11:01:21 am
jez...I really need to find new friends
what's the little pill bottle in the center?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 05, 2017, 11:08:42 am
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 05, 2017, 11:01:21 am
jez...I really need to find new friends
what's the little pill bottle in the center?

Liquid LSD that we all took prior to the tasting....























kidding. Inside joke about a beer that was shipped inside a medicine bottle, it was a Fundamental Observation stout if I recall.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 05, 2017, 12:46:51 pm
New gastropub opens in Frederick (https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/economy_and_business/retail/craft-beers-steak-frites-at-top-of-the-menu-at/article_139199f0-99cc-50d0-99c1-6f1ab283444d.html)

What will it be like, based on this photo of the owners?

(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/fredericknewspost.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/ce/fce067d6-3acc-5ca0-9883-8aceb0e2c76f/59ac668869ba6.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C859)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on September 06, 2017, 09:58:17 am
Quote from: Yada on September 05, 2017, 10:48:04 am
Drank a good amount of beer this weekend. Killshot from an epiQ share on Saturday, too many high lights but my favorites were Vinalla Rye, Cellador Ales, Monkish, De Garde, and a few 3F bottles.

(https://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25413/25413739bf22e2b73d691f884ea4b6dcd735285d.jpg)

Additionally, had a BBQ on Sunday with two sixtel kegs from Ocelot. Break My Balls IPA was soft, tropical, and delicious. Sunnyside Dweller was a nice, crisp pilsner.

Both kegs were #spaceapproved at roughly 12 cents an ounce, can't beat that price even at whole foods growler stations!

Calling doctor AA. Emergency! Come right away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 06, 2017, 11:30:32 am
I plan to follow the walkly AA  route where I fall off the wagon weekly.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on September 06, 2017, 04:38:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 06, 2017, 11:30:32 am
I plan to follow the walkly AA  route where I fall off the wagon weekly.  ;D

Failing . . . builds character.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 08, 2017, 11:18:07 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 09:22:23 am
molotov cocktail, at least the last time i had it several months ago, is incredibly sweet.  perfect example of "alcohol sweetness".  i think it's ok for a half-pour, the missus could mainline the stuff.

So getting a growler for myself might be a bad idea?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2017, 11:56:31 am
Quote from: excontradiction on September 08, 2017, 11:18:07 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 09:22:23 am
molotov cocktail, at least the last time i had it several months ago, is incredibly sweet.  perfect example of "alcohol sweetness".  i think it's ok for a half-pour, the missus could mainline the stuff.

So getting a growler for myself might be a bad idea?
just don't make plans to drive or make any major life decisions and you should be fine
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 08, 2017, 12:41:41 pm
Brutal day as Anheuser Busch lays off hundreds of employees in “The High End”
http://beerstreetjournal.com/anheuser-busch-the-high-end-layoffs/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on September 08, 2017, 01:28:50 pm
Wicked Weed'd.

Just wait, until pot becomes legal, and see what a shitshow corporations will become, to control that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 08, 2017, 02:25:40 pm
Massachusetts man busted for reselling beer:

http://fox43.com/2017/09/07/massachusetts-man-charged-with-selling-brewed-beverages-without-license/

It's funny, because I actually came across his website like a week ago, they were selling Aslin and Veil beers (among others) for $10 and $12 a can.

Obviously, at that price, I was viewing for entertainment rather than shopping purposes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 08, 2017, 08:45:54 pm
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 08, 2017, 11:56:31 am
Quote from: excontradiction on September 08, 2017, 11:18:07 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 21, 2016, 09:22:23 am
molotov cocktail, at least the last time i had it several months ago, is incredibly sweet.  perfect example of "alcohol sweetness".  i think it's ok for a half-pour, the missus could mainline the stuff.

So getting a growler for myself might be a bad idea?
just don't make plans to drive or make any major life decisions and you should be fine

Oooh yeah. No can do. This shit is waaaaaay  too sweet. Fortunately I got some Steady Eddie to tide me over.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 11, 2017, 11:14:43 am
LoL

https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/types-of-beer-snobs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 11, 2017, 12:15:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 11, 2017, 11:14:43 am
LoL

https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/types-of-beer-snobs

21. The Spaceman. Definitely is over enamoured with numbers. Is working on an minimum acceptable value for the equation: Beer Advocate score*beer size/ cost of beer. Is constantly reminding people how much cheaper he got a growler fill in some far flung suburb. Is constantly reminding people how much more per ounce their local canned beer is than a can of Heady Topper purchased at the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 11, 2017, 05:21:52 pm
Bravo ^
POTW
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 12, 2017, 02:47:36 pm
sort of LOL

https://thepeedmont.com/2017/07/21/900-people-line-up-at-veil-for-single-can-of-newest-ipa/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 12, 2017, 08:04:36 pm
1 can of beer? That's pathetic.

Speaking of which, the beer scene in Barcelona is indeed lacking. Best beers I can fond are all Belgian. Oh, well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 12, 2017, 08:50:15 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 12, 2017, 08:04:36 pm
1 can of beer? That's pathetic.
the Peedmont is a Virginia-specific variant on The Onion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 13, 2017, 09:46:44 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 12, 2017, 08:04:36 pm
1 can of beer? That's pathetic.

Speaking of which, the beer scene in Barcelona is indeed lacking. Best beers I can fond are all Belgian. Oh, well.

A nanobrew for sure.  A picobrew?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 13, 2017, 05:58:26 pm
Remember the original Tupper's Hop Pocket? Man that was good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2017, 09:22:54 am
Quote from: excontradiction on September 13, 2017, 05:58:26 pm
Remember the original Tupper's Hop Pocket? Man that was good.
He used to host a lot of the Beer Tastings at the Brickskeller...learned (and forgot) a lot from that man
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 14, 2017, 01:40:56 pm
anyone else going to the Aslin party?

The space ounce/cost ratio is not friendly, but I'm quite excited. Will either be amazing or a shit show.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 02:55:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 14, 2017, 01:40:56 pm
anyone else going to the Aslin party?

The space ounce/cost ratio is not friendly, but I'm quite excited. Will either be amazing or a shit show.

Didn't they have all the first anniversary beers still on tap the next day last year? But people did get those cool Aslin sunglasses.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 14, 2017, 03:02:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 02:55:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 14, 2017, 01:40:56 pm
anyone else going to the Aslin party?

The space ounce/cost ratio is not friendly, but I'm quite excited. Will either be amazing or a shit show.

Didn't they have all the first anniversary beers still on tap the next day last year? But people did get those cool Aslin sunglasses.

I'm not sure? I didn't attend their first party, nor am I going to their party this year for their beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 04:15:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 14, 2017, 03:02:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 02:55:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 14, 2017, 01:40:56 pm
anyone else going to the Aslin party?

The space ounce/cost ratio is not friendly, but I'm quite excited. Will either be amazing or a shit show.

Didn't they have all the first anniversary beers still on tap the next day last year? But people did get those cool Aslin sunglasses.

I'm not sure? I didn't attend their first party, nor am I going to their party this year for their beer.

So you're going for the sunglasses?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 14, 2017, 04:33:12 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/sYRFvgc.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
$100 VIP (200 Tickets Available - 2 per person): Anniversary Glass, Early Access, Anniversary Bag, 1 Bottle of Anniversary Stout, & 15 6oz pours
just for the pours that day...$1.11 per Oz
and that Anniversary stout...which will make you the king of your next bottle share

got some great breweries coming


what is the price per oz threshold for space?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on September 14, 2017, 08:08:52 pm
Just had something called Old Ox Brewery out of Ashburn Virginia, called funky face dry hop mango sour ale. Don't bother.

Thank God for an extra bottle I found in the basement of Wicked Weed Genesis.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 08:31:44 pm
With dinner tonight:

Crooked Stave 2014 Surette-ok, a little past it's prime but still tasty
Allagash Brett IPA-Yum
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on September 14, 2017, 08:36:51 pm
And, dinner was?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 08:57:49 pm
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 14, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
$100 VIP (200 Tickets Available - 2 per person): Anniversary Glass, Early Access, Anniversary Bag, 1 Bottle of Anniversary Stout, & 15 6oz pours
just for the pours that day...$1.11 per Oz
and that Anniversary stout...which will make you the king of your next bottle share

got some great breweries coming


what is the price per oz threshold for space?

I've had stouts by Aslin, and trust me, they're not trade bait or bottle share highlights.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 09:02:00 pm
Quote from: herman, otto on September 14, 2017, 08:36:51 pm
And, dinner was?

....The only ten minutes my daughter paid any attention to me all night.

Oh, you mean the food?

Salmon pasta with a spinach salad accented with cranberry trail mix and some dressing i made from scratch (olive oil, balsmic vinegar, lime juice, honey, garlic aoili mustard).

Except my finicky daughter insisted on something else and my workaholic wife worked so late she missed dinner....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on September 14, 2017, 10:31:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 08:57:49 pm
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 14, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
$100 VIP (200 Tickets Available - 2 per person): Anniversary Glass, Early Access, Anniversary Bag, 1 Bottle of Anniversary Stout, & 15 6oz pours
just for the pours that day...$1.11 per Oz
and that Anniversary stout...which will make you the king of your next bottle share

got some great breweries coming


what is the price per oz threshold for space?

I've had stouts by Aslin, and trust me, they're not trade bait or bottle share highlights.

Their BA bottled stouts are awesome.  I agree the canned stouts are good but not highlights.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 11:09:29 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on September 14, 2017, 10:31:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 14, 2017, 08:57:49 pm
Quote from: Hyper-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 14, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
$100 VIP (200 Tickets Available - 2 per person): Anniversary Glass, Early Access, Anniversary Bag, 1 Bottle of Anniversary Stout, & 15 6oz pours
just for the pours that day...$1.11 per Oz
and that Anniversary stout...which will make you the king of your next bottle share

got some great breweries coming


what is the price per oz threshold for space?

I've had stouts by Aslin, and trust me, they're not trade bait or bottle share highlights.

Their BA bottled stouts are awesome.  I agree the canned stouts are good but not highlights.

Fair enough. I have had their regular stouts but not the barrel aged stuff I think someone will have to invite me to a bottle share so i can test your theory.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 15, 2017, 07:57:37 am
Quote from: Cassini-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 14, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
$100 VIP (200 Tickets Available - 2 per person): Anniversary Glass, Early Access, Anniversary Bag, 1 Bottle of Anniversary Stout, & 15 6oz pours
just for the pours that day...$1.11 per Oz
and that Anniversary stout...which will make you the king of your next bottle share

got some great breweries coming


what is the price per oz threshold for space?

That's something like $75 for a six-pack.  Whose willing to pay that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 15, 2017, 08:20:33 am
There is more math going on in this thread than a rolling compendium of integers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 15, 2017, 08:50:18 am
Quote from: excontradiction on September 15, 2017, 07:57:37 am
Quote from: Cassini-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 14, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
$100 VIP (200 Tickets Available - 2 per person): Anniversary Glass, Early Access, Anniversary Bag, 1 Bottle of Anniversary Stout, & 15 6oz pours
just for the pours that day...$1.11 per Oz
and that Anniversary stout...which will make you the king of your next bottle share
what is the price per oz threshold for space?
That's something like $75 for a six-pack.  Whose willing to pay that?
True...but you do need to parse out some things to get an accurate price per oz
I'd say VIP is a $20 premium for early access and feeling elite over the stinking masses
the glass sells for $10 and the stout would probably retail for $18
Anniversary Bag-$2
so the price per oz comes down to $.56
about on par if typically you get a 16 oz pint of good beer...it costs you $9 then tax and tip puts you at $11
that would cost you $.68 oz

but sounds like the deal of the week to me :)
can someone check my math, I'm still kinda of sad about Cassini

liking good beer is really impacting my ability to save for my children's college fund
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 11:11:42 am
Quote from: Cassini-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 15, 2017, 08:50:18 am
Quote from: excontradiction on September 15, 2017, 07:57:37 am
Quote from: Cassini-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 14, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
$100 VIP (200 Tickets Available - 2 per person): Anniversary Glass, Early Access, Anniversary Bag, 1 Bottle of Anniversary Stout, & 15 6oz pours
just for the pours that day...$1.11 per Oz
and that Anniversary stout...which will make you the king of your next bottle share
what is the price per oz threshold for space?
That's something like $75 for a six-pack.  Whose willing to pay that?
True...but you do need to parse out some things to get an accurate price per oz
I'd say VIP is a $20 premium for early access and feeling elite over the stinking masses
the glass sells for $10 and the stout would probably retail for $18
Anniversary Bag-$2
so the price per oz comes down to $.56
about on par if typically you get a 16 oz pint of good beer...it costs you $9 then tax and tip puts you at $11
that would cost you $.68 oz

but sounds like the deal of the week to me :)
can someone check my math, I'm still kinda of sad about Cassini

liking good beer is really impacting my ability to save for my children's college fund

I probably own 30-40 brewery glasses and there's only two drinkers in the family. The brewery glass is worth $0 to me. Ditto the bag. Also don't need another sugary stout to decorate the basement with.

Also, $75 for a six pack, but it's a six pack you have to consume all at once. In a parking lot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 15, 2017, 12:03:38 pm
Hey you fucking cheap skates, there was a $35 option as well.

I'm sure that still doesn't meet the space: ounce/cost ratio.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 15, 2017, 12:26:09 pm
finally a sneaker (http://www.adidas.com/pt/munchen-made-in-germany-shoes/BY9805.html) for beer drinking
The adidas Munchen Oktoberfest Brown is perfect for the beer loving sneakerhead. Not only does this Munchen embody the spirit of this beer haven but thanks to an invisible coating, you can be assured of hard-wearing durability. Even if you spill beer on these creps, that nectar of the gods will simply flow right off.
(https://thesolesupplier.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/adidas-Munchen-Oktoberfest-Brown-02.png)

note...not space friendly price of $210
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 15, 2017, 12:44:12 pm
Quote from: Cassini-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 15, 2017, 12:26:09 pm
finally a sneaker (http://www.adidas.com/pt/munchen-made-in-germany-shoes/BY9805.html) for beer drinking
The adidas Munchen Oktoberfest Brown is perfect for the beer loving sneakerhead. Not only does this Munchen embody the spirit of this beer haven but thanks to an invisible coating, you can be assured of hard-wearing durability. Even if you spill beer on these creps, that nectar of the gods will simply flow right off.
(https://thesolesupplier.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/adidas-Munchen-Oktoberfest-Brown-02.png)

note...not space friendly price of $210
Julian's America Score: 3.4 out of 10
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 15, 2017, 03:12:05 pm
Quote from: Cassini-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 15, 2017, 08:50:18 am
Quote from: excontradiction on September 15, 2017, 07:57:37 am
Quote from: Cassini-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on September 14, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
$100 VIP (200 Tickets Available - 2 per person): Anniversary Glass, Early Access, Anniversary Bag, 1 Bottle of Anniversary Stout, & 15 6oz pours
just for the pours that day...$1.11 per Oz
and that Anniversary stout...which will make you the king of your next bottle share
what is the price per oz threshold for space?
That's something like $75 for a six-pack.  Whose willing to pay that?
True...but you do need to parse out some things to get an accurate price per oz
I'd say VIP is a $20 premium for early access and feeling elite over the stinking masses
the glass sells for $10 and the stout would probably retail for $18
Anniversary Bag-$2
so the price per oz comes down to $.56
about on par if typically you get a 16 oz pint of good beer...it costs you $9 then tax and tip puts you at $11
that would cost you $.68 oz

but sounds like the deal of the week to me :)
can someone check my math, I'm still kinda of sad about Cassini

liking good beer is really impacting my ability to save for my children's college fund

Aslin BA stouts are going for $150 a bottle on the secondary market (if you're into that kind of thing) - so it pays for the ticket and then some

I had Beaumont at a share a few weeks ago - it was fucking awesome and more than held its own against some heavy hitters
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 03:25:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2017, 12:03:38 pm
Hey you fucking cheap skates, there was a $35 option as well.

I'm sure that still doesn't meet the space: ounce/cost ratio.

What did $35 get you? A designated driver ticket?

I honestly didn't really pay any attention. Beer festivals don't fit my lifestyle anymore, if they ever did. My wife's not interested, my kid's not interested, and I'm not interested in drinking and driving.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 15, 2017, 03:41:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 03:25:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2017, 12:03:38 pm
Hey you fucking cheap skates, there was a $35 option as well.

I'm sure that still doesn't meet the space: ounce/cost ratio.

What did $35 get you? A designated driver ticket?

I honestly didn't really pay any attention. Beer festivals don't fit my lifestyle anymore, if they ever did. My wife's not interested, my kid's not interested, and I'm not interested in drinking and driving.

9oz of beer, a welcome taco, and a teku.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 03:48:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2017, 03:41:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 03:25:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2017, 12:03:38 pm
Hey you fucking cheap skates, there was a $35 option as well.

I'm sure that still doesn't meet the space: ounce/cost ratio.

What did $35 get you? A designated driver ticket?

I honestly didn't really pay any attention. Beer festivals don't fit my lifestyle anymore, if they ever did. My wife's not interested, my kid's not interested, and I'm not interested in drinking and driving.

9oz of beer, a welcome taco, and a teku.

Swap out the teku for a hummer and that's my every Saturday night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 15, 2017, 03:54:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 03:25:31 pm
and I'm not interested in drinking and driving.
Oh, I guess it's just "Insult Julian's Gadabout Lifestyle Day" over here on the forum. I see how it is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 15, 2017, 07:10:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 03:48:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2017, 03:41:24 pm
9oz of beer, a welcome taco, and a teku.

Swap out the teku for a hummer and that's my every Saturday night.

you really should consider something more efficient - like a Prius, or a 30+ year old Saturn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 15, 2017, 07:11:10 pm
Quote from: Julian, a Lust for GLORY on September 15, 2017, 12:44:12 pm
Julian's America Score: 3.4 out of 10
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i have my issues with your america, but i've long been a fan of the reviews.  feel free to bring those back!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 16, 2017, 07:49:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 15, 2017, 07:10:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 03:48:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2017, 03:41:24 pm
9oz of beer, a welcome taco, and a teku.

Swap out the teku for a hummer and that's my every Saturday night.

you really should consider something more efficient - like a Prius, or a 30+ year old Saturn.
I recently bought a Prius 4 Touring and absolutely love it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 18, 2017, 05:33:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 03:25:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2017, 12:03:38 pm
Hey you fucking cheap skates, there was a $35 option as well.

I'm sure that still doesn't meet the space: ounce/cost ratio.

What did $35 get you? A designated driver ticket?

I honestly didn't really pay any attention. Beer festivals don't fit my lifestyle anymore, if they ever did. My wife's not interested, my kid's not interested, and I'm not interested in drinking and driving.

Uber
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 18, 2017, 05:34:49 pm
Quote from: brennser on September 18, 2017, 05:33:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 15, 2017, 03:25:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2017, 12:03:38 pm
Hey you fucking cheap skates, there was a $35 option as well.

I'm sure that still doesn't meet the space: ounce/cost ratio.

What did $35 get you? A designated driver ticket?

I honestly didn't really pay any attention. Beer festivals don't fit my lifestyle anymore, if they ever did. My wife's not interested, my kid's not interested, and I'm not interested in drinking and driving.

Uber

Have you ever ran the space: mile/gas/uber ratio? #notapproved
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 22, 2017, 10:45:26 am
Some great $4 picks at Georgetown Paradiso happy hour last night:

Rodenbach Vintage
Firestone Walker Bravo (feeling it this morning)
Captain Lawrence Rosso e Marrone
Ballast Point Grapefruit Sculpin

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on September 22, 2017, 01:15:36 pm
heading to va beach, for the first time, coming up.  Neptune festival.  hope it is not, maria'd.  any beer places of note to check out, whether brewery or great beer selection store, while there?  I want to stop at green flash to check out a brewery of that size, but that is all I know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 22, 2017, 01:54:04 pm
Quote from: herman, otto on September 22, 2017, 01:15:36 pm
heading to va beach, for the first time, coming up.  Neptune festival.  hope it is not, maria'd.  any beer places of note to check out, whether brewery or great beer selection store, while there?  I want to stop at green flash to check out a brewery of that size, but that is all I know.
Virginia Beach, is a beach, of the, poor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on September 22, 2017, 02:02:36 pm
Is Poor, the name of a brewery, or store?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 22, 2017, 02:14:57 pm
commonwealth Brewery is making some killer suds out of va beach
Never been to the brewery ....but if their beer is any indication, I'm sure it's great
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 22, 2017, 02:29:19 pm
Quote from: Julian, a Lust for GLORY on September 22, 2017, 01:54:04 pm
Quote from: herman, otto on September 22, 2017, 01:15:36 pm
heading to va beach, for the first time, coming up.  Neptune festival.  hope it is not, maria'd.  any beer places of note to check out, whether brewery or great beer selection store, while there?  I want to stop at green flash to check out a brewery of that size, but that is all I know.
Virginia Beach, is a beach, of the, poor.

Virginia Beach is filled with even more skanky people than Rehoboth. Haven't been to Ocean City in 20+ years so can't comment on it.

I would skip Virginia Beach and just go to Sandbridge if I were headed that way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 22, 2017, 02:30:23 pm
Quote from: herman, otto on September 22, 2017, 01:15:36 pm
heading to va beach, for the first time, coming up.  Neptune festival.  hope it is not, maria'd.  any beer places of note to check out, whether brewery or great beer selection store, while there?  I want to stop at green flash to check out a brewery of that size, but that is all I know.

The Green Flash in San Diego is enjoyable enough, if not awe-inspiring. I'm going to guess the VA Beach one will be comparable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on September 22, 2017, 09:55:20 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 22, 2017, 02:29:19 pm
Quote from: Julian, a Lust for GLORY on September 22, 2017, 01:54:04 pm
Quote from: herman, otto on September 22, 2017, 01:15:36 pm
heading to va beach, for the first time, coming up.  Neptune festival.  hope it is not, maria'd.  any beer places of note to check out, whether brewery or great beer selection store, while there?  I want to stop at green flash to check out a brewery of that size, but that is all I know.
Virginia Beach, is a beach, of the, poor.

Virginia Beach is filled with even more skanky people than Rehoboth. Haven't been to Ocean City in 20+ years so can't comment on it.

I would skip Virginia Beach and just go to Sandbridge if I were headed that way.

We, are staying in Sandbridge.  Heard it is nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 29, 2017, 09:18:52 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 15, 2009, 12:26:07 pm
There must be a few people here who drink something a cut above PBR, no?

What beers are you currently enjoying?

I'm really digging this:
(http://legalbeer.com/images/founders%20breakfast%20stout.jpg)

And after a stop at their brewery in Cooperstown, NY, i'm enjoying the mix pack from Ommegang. Especially love the Ommegang Ale.

(https://secure5.worldaxxs.net/ssl.ommegang.com/graphics/graphics/00000005/ultimix.jpg)

Had a Founders Breakfast Stout on top of Old Rag today. A glorious hike. Eight years and 566 pages later, still one of my very favorite stouts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 29, 2017, 09:21:56 pm
I had the Dogfish 120 min for the 10 year anniversary week..I hated it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 29, 2017, 10:05:49 pm
Quote from: hutch on September 29, 2017, 09:21:56 pm
I had the Dogfish 120 min for the 10 year anniversary week..I hated it

I'm a hophead and i hate it too. Dogfish was definitely a craft pioneer but do they do anything better than serviceable these days? Sad.

Speaking of high abv beers, i had a five ounce pour of Avery Rumpkin on my way home tonight. 17.5% abv. Hated it, but still one of he best pumpkin beers I've ever had. At least the rum somewhat covered up the horrible pumpkin beer taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 30, 2017, 06:23:56 pm
This sounds like a Yada event.

We are pleased to announce our Annual Halloween Party will be held on October 28th (Saturday)
Along with our own beer, some of our friends from South Carolina are providing "costume beers" for the brewery with mystery guest taps throughout the evening.
As a special treat, The Last Rewind-DC's Phish Tribute, Will be performing "A Live One" in it's entirety along with another special set!
The band will be performing in the Antelope room(our connected barrel room next door with a cash bar and beer station)
RESQ BBQ Catering will be here all night with their awesome BBQ

Pick your costume and come prepared for some ghoulish fun!
More details will be added soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 02, 2017, 09:25:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 30, 2017, 06:23:56 pm
This sounds like a Yada event.

We are pleased to announce our Annual Halloween Party will be held on October 28th (Saturday)
Along with our own beer, some of our friends from South Carolina are providing "costume beers" for the brewery with mystery guest taps throughout the evening.
As a special treat, The Last Rewind-DC's Phish Tribute, Will be performing "A Live One" in it's entirety along with another special set!
The band will be performing in the Antelope room(our connected barrel room next door with a cash bar and beer station)
RESQ BBQ Catering will be here all night with their awesome BBQ

Pick your costume and come prepared for some ghoulish fun!
More details will be added soon.

Would be good to know where this is taking place to officially receive the YSOA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 02, 2017, 09:46:18 am
Quote from: Yada on October 02, 2017, 09:25:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 30, 2017, 06:23:56 pm
This sounds like a Yada event.

We are pleased to announce our Annual Halloween Party will be held on October 28th (Saturday)
Along with our own beer, some of our friends from South Carolina are providing "costume beers" for the brewery with mystery guest taps throughout the evening.
As a special treat, The Last Rewind-DC's Phish Tribute, Will be performing "A Live One" in it's entirety along with another special set!
The band will be performing in the Antelope room(our connected barrel room next door with a cash bar and beer station)
RESQ BBQ Catering will be here all night with their awesome BBQ

Pick your costume and come prepared for some ghoulish fun!
More details will be added soon.

Would be good to know where this is taking place to officially receive the YSOA.

Sorry, it's Ocelot. Their Halloween Party.

My daughter and I went last year (two years ago?), early, before it got crowded (wife was out of town). Some fun people watching, and guest beers from the Veil.

Wonder who the guest South Carolina breweries are?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 02, 2017, 01:18:27 pm
ahh the vaunted YSOA is desired by all hip gatherings
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 02, 2017, 02:12:33 pm
Quote from: Dotard-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on October 02, 2017, 01:18:27 pm
ahh the vaunted YSOA is desired by all hip gatherings

Yale School of Architecture?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on October 02, 2017, 03:42:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 29, 2017, 10:05:49 pm
Quote from: hutch on September 29, 2017, 09:21:56 pm
I had the Dogfish 120 min for the 10 year anniversary week..I hated it

I'm a hophead and i hate it too. Dogfish was definitely a craft pioneer but do they do anything better than serviceable these days? Sad.

Speaking of high abv beers, i had a five ounce pour of Avery Rumpkin on my way home tonight. 17.5% abv. Hated it, but still one of he best pumpkin beers I've ever had. At least the rum somewhat covered up the horrible pumpkin beer taste.

I still think their Indian Brown is one of the best brown ales out there. It's my go-to every time I see a show at the club.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 02, 2017, 04:55:16 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on October 02, 2017, 03:42:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 29, 2017, 10:05:49 pm
Quote from: hutch on September 29, 2017, 09:21:56 pm
I had the Dogfish 120 min for the 10 year anniversary week..I hated it

I'm a hophead and i hate it too. Dogfish was definitely a craft pioneer but do they do anything better than serviceable these days? Sad.

Speaking of high abv beers, i had a five ounce pour of Avery Rumpkin on my way home tonight. 17.5% abv. Hated it, but still one of he best pumpkin beers I've ever had. At least the rum somewhat covered up the horrible pumpkin beer taste.

I still think their Indian Brown is one of the best brown ales out there. It's my go-to every time I see a show at the club.

Indeed it is one of the best brown ales. Probably because it's referred to by DFH as an "indian brown ale" or a IPA/brown ale hybrid (I think?) so more hoppy than most brown ales. It's also very rare that I find myself wanting to drink a brown ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: herman otto on October 03, 2017, 12:09:46 am
while, at the beach, I discovered a nice beer store in Northern VA beach called mix and match, so that is what I did.  I tried, the following

rodenbach  grand cru  flanders red ale   (so, fucking good)

smarthmouth  alter ego  saison farmhouse ale  (it was decent; would drink again)

Stillwater  shoegaze  distorted farmhouse pale ale  (gurl I was a little drunk, I can't remember)

firestone  leo vs ursus  unfiltered dipa  (oh . . . hell . . . yeah)

war flag  grandmaster ipa  (from some place in NY.  I was at the best BBQ place I have ever eaten, and saw this so I got it.  it went well with bbq, but I don't think it was outstanding.  good but not, to die for)

plus a few clownshoes  space cake  dipa.  (I really really like this beer, and will drink it, no matter how 'common' it becomes)

firestone walker  sour opal  wild ale  (dear lord in heaven, I have found a special beer)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 06, 2017, 10:57:56 am
space...may want to check your credit history

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/foods-hit-credit-card-data-hack-payment-info-stolen-article-1.3529813?

mazon.com Inc’s Whole Foods Market on Thursday said payment card information has been stolen from taprooms, restaurants and other venues located within some of its stores.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 06, 2017, 12:50:58 pm
anyone tried the Weyerbacher Sunday Morning Stout?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2017, 03:07:26 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 06, 2017, 12:50:58 pm
anyone tried the Weyerbacher Sunday Morning Stout?

Yes, and it's not bad.

Just not as good at BCBS, KBS, Lagunitas High Westified, and others of that ilk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 06, 2017, 03:07:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 06, 2017, 03:07:26 pm
Yes, and it's not bad.

Just not as good at BCBS, KBS, Lagunitas High Westified, and others of that ilk.

mmmmmm ilk beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 06, 2017, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 02, 2017, 04:55:16 pm
Indeed it is one of the best brown ales. Probably because it's referred to by DFH as an "indian brown ale" or a IPA/brown ale hybrid (I think?) so more hoppy than most brown ales. It's also very rare that I find myself wanting to drink a brown ale.

When they decided to rename it Indian Brown Dark IPA did they make any changes to the beer at all?  Or is it just a rebranding?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2017, 04:25:22 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on October 06, 2017, 04:00:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 02, 2017, 04:55:16 pm
Indeed it is one of the best brown ales. Probably because it's referred to by DFH as an "indian brown ale" or a IPA/brown ale hybrid (I think?) so more hoppy than most brown ales. It's also very rare that I find myself wanting to drink a brown ale.

When they decided to rename it Indian Brown Dark IPA did they make any changes to the beer at all?  Or is it just a rebranding?

Feel free to post something that proves me wrong, but I seem to remember it being just a rebranding.

It's sort of weird that they use "Indian" in one of their beer names, and then Sam Calagione denies an Indian guy the ability to name his brewery "Namaste."

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/money/business/2017/04/07/dogfish-head-fights-protect-its-brand/100049976/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 15, 2017, 08:40:44 pm
MARYLAND CRAFT BEER COMPETITION RESULTS! (https://marylandbeer.org/beer-competition-results-2/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2017, 05:51:43 pm
over a week old now, but GABF winners were announced: https://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com/the-competition/winners/ (https://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com/the-competition/winners/)

Ocelot won a bronze for its Baltic-Style Porter, Powers of Observation - one of 4 medals for VA.  MD and DC* struck out.


* CORRECTION: Gordon Biersch Navy Yard won a gold for their hefeweizen!  for some reason it's listed as CO, i assume because the company's headquarters are there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2017, 06:01:53 pm
well this looks like a barrel of monkeys:

Craft Brewers Seek to Buy Anheuser-Busch InBev and 'Take Craft Back'
The Brewers Association, the parent organization of the American Homebrewers Association, has announced the craft brewing community's intent to Take Craft Back from Anheuser-Busch InBev by purchasing the beverage-alcohol giant outright.

After years of watching Big Beer acquire craft breweries, the country's small and independent craft brewers have decided to flip the script. The website TakeCraftBack.com (http://TakeCraftBack.com) is now accepting support from craft beer lovers, with the (crazy?) goal of raising $213,000,000,000 to buy AB InBev.

Beer lovers are invited to make a pledge of support (http://TakeCraftBack.com)—no credit card or actual money required—and get free Take Craft Back swag.


(yes, they will send you some swag if you "pledge"...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 16, 2017, 06:36:32 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on October 15, 2017, 08:40:44 pm
MARYLAND CRAFT BEER COMPETITION RESULTS! (https://marylandbeer.org/beer-competition-results-2/)

Citra Splendora is good when fresh but hardly better than Baymore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 26, 2017, 01:33:03 pm
The good news is Lagunitas Born Yesterday is great again this year. Best mass produced hoppy beer on the market.

The bad news is it's pretty meh when you have a fridge full Aslin and Veil hoppy beers.

Oh well, it's still better than the Heady Topper clone I'll be bottling Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 26, 2017, 09:46:07 pm
Luponic Distortion on tap
Sunset
So Cal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2017, 10:33:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 26, 2017, 01:33:03 pm
The good news is Lagunitas Born Yesterday is great again this year. Best mass produced hoppy beer on the market.

The bad news is it's pretty meh when you have a fridge full Aslin and Veil hoppy beers.

Oh well, it's still better than the Heady Topper clone I'll be bottling Saturday.

Back already? I defnitely need to get some, despite not having any room in the fridge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 10:08:28 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2017, 10:33:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 26, 2017, 01:33:03 pm
The good news is Lagunitas Born Yesterday is great again this year. Best mass produced hoppy beer on the market.

The bad news is it's pretty meh when you have a fridge full Aslin and Veil hoppy beers.

Oh well, it's still better than the Heady Topper clone I'll be bottling Saturday.

Back already? I defnitely need to get some, despite not having any room in the fridge.

Yes, a whole year has passed. Don't confuse this superior beer with the inferior but still good Born Again Yesterday, which was released earlier this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 27, 2017, 10:37:28 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 26, 2017, 01:33:03 pm
The good news is Lagunitas Born Yesterday is great again this year. Best mass produced hoppy beer on the market.


agreed.  great stuff

Stone Enjoy By 10/31!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 27, 2017, 02:58:13 pm
Agreed on Born Again Yesterday.  And now that you mention it, I  guess it was just after Thanksgiving when I saw 6 Packs of Born Yesterday still on the shelf and couldn't decide whether their time had come and gone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 04:05:07 pm
More of a bar question than a beer question...Does the Sovereign have a bar area where you can just drink beer and not order food?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 27, 2017, 04:17:02 pm
I don't know of this sovereign of which you speak, but why can't you ever just order what you want?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 04:20:31 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on October 27, 2017, 04:17:02 pm
I don't know of this sovereign of which you speak, but why can't you ever just order what you want?

Just wondering if you can go there on a Saturday night and drink at a bar area without having dinner reservations.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 27, 2017, 04:48:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 04:05:07 pm
More of a bar question than a beer question...Does the Sovereign have a bar area where you can just drink beer and not order food?

yes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 27, 2017, 04:59:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 04:20:31 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on October 27, 2017, 04:17:02 pm
I don't know of this sovereign of which you speak, but why can't you ever just order what you want?

Just wondering if you can go there on a Saturday night and drink at a bar area without having dinner reservations.
yes you can, I think they have two bars, but the one upstairs is where I'd go
prices are not space friendly tho
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 05:08:32 pm
Quote from: Dotard-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on October 27, 2017, 04:59:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 04:20:31 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on October 27, 2017, 04:17:02 pm
I don't know of this sovereign of which you speak, but why can't you ever just order what you want?

Just wondering if you can go there on a Saturday night and drink at a bar area without having dinner reservations.
yes you can, I think they have two bars, but the one upstairs is where I'd go
prices are not space friendly tho

Saturday night is date night and money is no object when I'm out with my sweetie.

That, plus they're offering all Jolly Pumpkin bottles for half price on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 27, 2017, 05:21:05 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 05:08:32 pm
Quote from: Dotard-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on October 27, 2017, 04:59:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 04:20:31 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on October 27, 2017, 04:17:02 pm
I don't know of this sovereign of which you speak, but why can't you ever just order what you want?

Just wondering if you can go there on a Saturday night and drink at a bar area without having dinner reservations.
yes you can, I think they have two bars, but the one upstairs is where I'd go
prices are not space friendly tho

Saturday night is date night and money is no object when I'm out with my sweetie.

That, plus they're offering all Jolly Pumpkin bottles for half price on Saturday.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/x5adR1eXNwKzu/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 27, 2017, 10:14:04 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 27, 2017, 10:37:28 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 26, 2017, 01:33:03 pm
The good news is Lagunitas Born Yesterday is great again this year. Best mass produced hoppy beer on the market.
agreed.  great stuff
Picked up a sixer tonight and am a satisfied customer

am not a cider fan, but had this tonight and have come full circle, this is damn good
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/574715beb09f95a5a9d3717b/59413c69579fb3e05044dce1/59413d422994cae9052d2b7d/1497447752771/Farm%2BFlor%2BLabel%2BPNG.png?format=500w)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2017, 05:03:05 pm
Quote from: Dotard-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on October 27, 2017, 10:14:04 pm
am not a cider fan, but had this tonight and have come full circle, this is damn good
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/574715beb09f95a5a9d3717b/59413c69579fb3e05044dce1/59413d422994cae9052d2b7d/1497447752771/Farm%2BFlor%2BLabel%2BPNG.png?format=500w)

to be fair that's a wild cider, meaning it was fermented with only the wild yeast and bacteria on the apples.  it's a different beast than "regular" cider, where they use domesticated yeast from a lab.  it's like comparing regular beer and lambic - sure, they're both technically beer, but it's not hard to see how one might only like one and not the other...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 30, 2017, 08:28:37 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 05:08:32 pm
Quote from: Dotard-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on October 27, 2017, 04:59:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 27, 2017, 04:20:31 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on October 27, 2017, 04:17:02 pm
I don't know of this sovereign of which you speak, but why can't you ever just order what you want?

Just wondering if you can go there on a Saturday night and drink at a bar area without having dinner reservations.
yes you can, I think they have two bars, but the one upstairs is where I'd go
prices are not space friendly tho

Saturday night is date night and money is no object when I'm out with my sweetie.

That, plus they're offering all Jolly Pumpkin bottles for half price on Saturday.

We ended up going to the Ocelot Halloween bash, following a nice Indian dinner. Guest South Carolina breweries Edmunds Oast (Charleston),  Charles Town Fermentory (Charleston), and Birds Fly South (Greenville), along with a couple others we didn't try. All beers were excellent.

And I managed to make it through watching/listening to 30 minutes (so about half a song) by the Phish cover band. My wife liked it though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 30, 2017, 09:37:41 am
Sounds like you pulled out all of the stops this weekend, Space. Good on you!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2017, 11:26:16 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 29, 2017, 05:03:05 pm
to be fair that's a wild cider, meaning it was fermented with only the wild yeast and bacteria on the apples.  it's a different beast than "regular" cider, where they use domesticated yeast from a lab.  it's like comparing regular beer and lambic - sure, they're both technically beer, but it's not hard to see how one might only like one and not the other...
you speak the truth Mr Beer
I do highly recommend people try this wild cider as I thought it was delicious
same company has a colab with Aslin, but that wasn't really that great
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2017, 04:22:27 pm
This was really good last year....spent most of my time at The Veil and Answer tables
but Penn Druid, Aslin, Commonwealth and Ocelot will likely be sampled too


IMO best VA beer fest ...please correct me if I'm wrong
(well I think one of the few beer fests that I can ride my bike too)

NOVEMBERFEST 2017
Rustico Restaurant, Alexandria VA
Saturday, November 4 From Noon to 5


Alewerks Brewing Co. (Williamsburg)
Ardent Craft Ales (Richmond)
Aslin Beer Co. (Herndon)
Black Narrows Brewing Co. (Chincoteague Island)
Blue Bee Cider (Richmond)
Brothers Craft Brewing (Harrisonburg)
Commonwealth Brewing Co. (Virginia Beach)
Final Gravity Brewing Co. (Richmond)
Hardywood Park Craft Brewery (Richmond)
Lickinghole Creek Craft Brewery (Goochland)
Lost Rhino Brewing Co. (Ashburn)
Mad Fox Brewing Co. (Falls Church)
Mustang Sally Brewing Co. (Chantilly)
Ocelot Brewing Co. (Dulles)
Old Ox Brewery (Ashburn)
Pen Druid Brewing (Sperryville)
Port City Brewing Co. (Alexandria)
Potter’s Craft Cider (Charlottesville)
Reason Beer (Charlottesville)
The Answer Brewpub (Richmond)
The Veil Brewing Co. (Richmond)
Three Notch’d Brewing Co. (Charlottesville)
Triple Crossing Brewing Co. (Richmond)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 31, 2017, 02:21:14 pm
I can't find Yada's initial post about this so I'll just post this. Disappointing that it's not going to be in four packs.

It's official.

[​IMG]

 CBS was born when we stumbled upon some bourbon barrels that had previously housed maple syrup. We opted to put the same base beer as KBS, an imperialized version of Breakfast Stout, in the maple barrels and, after one taste, we knew we had something special. Rich maple syrup, roasted coffee and velvety chocolate meld together in what can only be described as a transcendental drinking experience.

 Last bottled in 2011, CBS has become one of the most highly sought-after beers in the world and for good reason. It’s damn good. You all have been very vocal in petitioning for its return and it would’ve been cruel for us to hold out any longer in delivering on that.

 CBS will be available everywhere, including our Grand Rapids taproom, on draft and in 750mL bottles beginning on December 1. It will have a suggested retail price of $24.99 a bottle.

 Similar to our annual release of KBS, CBS will be released via an online ticket sale. More info, including its availability at our soon-to-be-open Detroit taproom, coming in the public announcement next week!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 31, 2017, 03:57:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 31, 2017, 02:21:14 pm
I can't find Yada's initial post about this so I'll just post this. Disappointing that it's not going to be in four packs.

It's official.

[​IMG]

 CBS was born when we stumbled upon some bourbon barrels that had previously housed maple syrup. We opted to put the same base beer as KBS, an imperialized version of Breakfast Stout, in the maple barrels and, after one taste, we knew we had something special. Rich maple syrup, roasted coffee and velvety chocolate meld together in what can only be described as a transcendental drinking experience.

 Last bottled in 2011, CBS has become one of the most highly sought-after beers in the world and for good reason. It’s damn good. You all have been very vocal in petitioning for its return and it would’ve been cruel for us to hold out any longer in delivering on that.

 CBS will be available everywhere, including our Grand Rapids taproom, on draft and in 750mL bottles beginning on December 1. It will have a suggested retail price of $24.99 a bottle.

 Similar to our annual release of KBS, CBS will be released via an online ticket sale. More info, including its availability at our soon-to-be-open Detroit taproom, coming in the public announcement next week!

not very space friendly in terms of pricing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 31, 2017, 04:04:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 31, 2017, 03:57:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 31, 2017, 02:21:14 pm
I can't find Yada's initial post about this so I'll just post this. Disappointing that it's not going to be in four packs.

It's official.

[​IMG]

 CBS was born when we stumbled upon some bourbon barrels that had previously housed maple syrup. We opted to put the same base beer as KBS, an imperialized version of Breakfast Stout, in the maple barrels and, after one taste, we knew we had something special. Rich maple syrup, roasted coffee and velvety chocolate meld together in what can only be described as a transcendental drinking experience.

 Last bottled in 2011, CBS has become one of the most highly sought-after beers in the world and for good reason. It’s damn good. You all have been very vocal in petitioning for its return and it would’ve been cruel for us to hold out any longer in delivering on that.

 CBS will be available everywhere, including our Grand Rapids taproom, on draft and in 750mL bottles beginning on December 1. It will have a suggested retail price of $24.99 a bottle.

 Similar to our annual release of KBS, CBS will be released via an online ticket sale. More info, including its availability at our soon-to-be-open Detroit taproom, coming in the public announcement next week!

not very space friendly in terms of pricing.

or size, I much prefer the 12 oz format for those high abv beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 02, 2017, 08:42:14 am
I'm assuming Space doesn't have cable, but if he did, I wonder how he felt about those beer commercials last night during the world series?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 02, 2017, 10:13:26 am
Quote from: Yada on November 02, 2017, 08:42:14 am
I'm assuming Space doesn't have cable, but if he did, I wonder how he felt about those beer commercials last night during the world series?

You don't need cable to get Fox.

Do you mean the Sculpin commercial? I thought it was weird. I thought they should have gotten a better looking spokesmodel. The commercial itself whas kind of boring. What did you think? Were there other commercials I missed?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 02, 2017, 10:23:47 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 02, 2017, 10:13:26 am
Quote from: Yada on November 02, 2017, 08:42:14 am
I'm assuming Space doesn't have cable, but if he did, I wonder how he felt about those beer commercials last night during the world series?

You don't need cable to get Fox.

Do you mean the Sculpin commercial? I thought it was weird. I thought they should have gotten a better looking spokesmodel. The commercial itself whas kind of boring. What did you think? Were there other commercials I missed?

Yeah... just quite interesting to all of a sudden see a Sculpin commercial when I'm typically used to tapping the Rockies or Clydesdales during those types of sport events. I thought the commercial was nothing special, there was also the very sentimental Latino veteran commercial with him and the boys crushing Modelos.

Also, when did mini commercials during the telecast start happening?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 02, 2017, 05:50:43 pm
Is anchor steam really the first US craft beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 02, 2017, 06:18:41 pm
It was either that or Sam Adams, no?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 02, 2017, 07:20:41 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 02, 2017, 05:50:43 pm
Is anchor steam really the first US craft beer?
Quote from: excontradiction on November 02, 2017, 06:18:41 pm
It was either that or Sam Adams, no?

depends how do you define craft beer.

i recently listened to a great interview with the head brewer at August Schell (http://schellsbrewery.com/about-schells/history/) which was founded in 1860.  they are definitely "craft" in my books.

so, what do you mean by "craft"?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 02, 2017, 08:44:11 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on November 02, 2017, 06:18:41 pm
It was either that or Sam Adams, no?

Jim Koch for some reason likes to take credit, but Sam Adams was 1984 compared to Sierra Nevada in 1979.

Anchor has them both beat, 1896.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 02, 2017, 08:45:36 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 02, 2017, 10:23:47 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 02, 2017, 10:13:26 am
Quote from: Yada on November 02, 2017, 08:42:14 am
I'm assuming Space doesn't have cable, but if he did, I wonder how he felt about those beer commercials last night during the world series?

You don't need cable to get Fox.

Do you mean the Sculpin commercial? I thought it was weird. I thought they should have gotten a better looking spokesmodel. The commercial itself whas kind of boring. What did you think? Were there other commercials I missed?

Yeah... just quite interesting to all of a sudden see a Sculpin commercial when I'm typically used to tapping the Rockies or Clydesdales during those types of sport events. I thought the commercial was nothing special, there was also the very sentimental Latino veteran commercial with him and the boys crushing Modelos.

Also, when did mini commercials during the telecast start happening?

The Latino guy was the first Latino astronaut. Not sure if he's a veteran, though he very well could be.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 02, 2017, 09:01:25 pm
Yuengling claims some skin in this game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 03, 2017, 12:34:35 am
Oh come on..yuengling may be the oldest American  brewery but craft?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 03, 2017, 03:03:31 am
Quote from: hutch on November 03, 2017, 12:34:35 am
Oh come on..yuengling may be the oldest American  brewery but craft?

again: how are you defining "craft"?

if we're using some nebulous "you'll know it when you see it" definition, then there isn't much point in this discussion... a man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 03, 2017, 07:06:12 am
I'm sure the for a long time in its history, Yuengling was well below the artificial production levels that some people use to define micros.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2017, 02:04:17 pm
Quote from: Dotard-hatch 🚀🚀🚀🚀 on October 30, 2017, 04:22:27 pm
NOVEMBERFEST 2017
This was really good last year....spent most of my time at The Veil and Answer tables
but Penn Druid, Aslin, Commonwealth and Ocelot will likely be sampled too
Managed to fit in a fly by in the middle of an awesome Autumn bike ride

Sorbet - Aslin and Marshmallow Eyes - Commmonwealth...OMFG!
VA is really producing some insane beers.

honorable mention to Cinnamon Streusel Hornswoggler - The Veil Brewing Co

too little time and too many good beers
easily could have had 10 others
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 04, 2017, 03:33:07 pm
Fly by....buahaha
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 04, 2017, 03:57:19 pm
I define craft as a beer the brewer wants to be good...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2017, 05:58:35 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 04, 2017, 03:33:07 pm
Fly by....buahaha
There Are No Coincidences
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 09, 2017, 12:11:15 pm
Did my first brewery tour of Richmond last week (big mistake not to be there this weekend).

There are a ton of them down there. Am I wrong in thinking that there is a considerable drop-off in quality once you get past the top 2-3 places? For some reason I expected a little more than what I got.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 09, 2017, 12:14:20 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 09, 2017, 12:11:15 pm
Did my first brewery tour of Richmond last week (big mistake not to be there this weekend).

There are a ton of them down there. Am I wrong in thinking that there is a considerable drop-off in quality once you get past the top 2-3 places? For some reason I expected a little more than what I got.

Before I share my thoughts, answer this...which ones did you go to and what specifically were your impressions of each?

Also, what is going on this weekend?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 09, 2017, 12:20:28 pm
Richmond definitely has a lot of places that are “places for white people to drink in public” more than “serious brewers trying to make quality beer.”

Veil, Triple Crossing, Lickinghole Creek, and Answer are all pretty legit according to my beer nerd friends.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 09, 2017, 12:25:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 09, 2017, 12:14:20 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 09, 2017, 12:11:15 pm
Did my first brewery tour of Richmond last week (big mistake not to be there this weekend).

There are a ton of them down there. Am I wrong in thinking that there is a considerable drop-off in quality once you get past the top 2-3 places? For some reason I expected a little more than what I got.

Before I share my thoughts, answer this...which ones did you go to and what specifically were your impressions of each?

Also, what is going on this weekend?

I'm willing to answer prior to knowing... Veil and Answer are the only two making a point to hit. Others may have some high points, but nothing that touches Veil/Answer IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 09, 2017, 12:49:05 pm
Quote from: Julian, Confirmation VIRTUOSO on November 09, 2017, 12:20:28 pm
Richmond definitely has a lot of places that are “places for white people to drink in public” more than “serious brewers trying to make quality beer.”

Veil, Triple Crossing, Lickinghole Creek, and Answer are all pretty legit according to my beer nerd friends.

This is the correct answer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 09, 2017, 12:50:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 09, 2017, 12:25:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 09, 2017, 12:14:20 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 09, 2017, 12:11:15 pm
Did my first brewery tour of Richmond last week (big mistake not to be there this weekend).

There are a ton of them down there. Am I wrong in thinking that there is a considerable drop-off in quality once you get past the top 2-3 places? For some reason I expected a little more than what I got.

Before I share my thoughts, answer this...which ones did you go to and what specifically were your impressions of each?

Also, what is going on this weekend?

I'm willing to answer prior to knowing... Veil and Answer are the only two making a point to hit. Others may have some high points, but nothing that touches Veil/Answer IMO.

This is another correct answer.

Which DMV breweries would you put on a making a point to hit list?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 09, 2017, 03:48:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 09, 2017, 12:50:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 09, 2017, 12:25:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 09, 2017, 12:14:20 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 09, 2017, 12:11:15 pm
Did my first brewery tour of Richmond last week (big mistake not to be there this weekend).

There are a ton of them down there. Am I wrong in thinking that there is a considerable drop-off in quality once you get past the top 2-3 places? For some reason I expected a little more than what I got.

Before I share my thoughts, answer this...which ones did you go to and what specifically were your impressions of each?

Also, what is going on this weekend?

I'm willing to answer prior to knowing... Veil and Answer are the only two making a point to hit. Others may have some high points, but nothing that touches Veil/Answer IMO.

This is another correct answer.

Which DMV breweries would you put on a making a point to hit list?

Make a point to hit these two:

1. Ocelot (but way too far for some people)
2. Aslin (but way too many shitty rules in terms of how you can acquire beer or even drink there, still waiting for news of their new spot)

Then a very long list of mediocre ones that probably aren't worth making a specific trip to unless you're in the area.



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 09, 2017, 03:48:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 09, 2017, 12:49:05 pm
Quote from: Julian, Confirmation VIRTUOSO on November 09, 2017, 12:20:28 pm
Richmond definitely has a lot of places that are “places for white people to drink in public” more than “serious brewers trying to make quality beer.”

Veil, Triple Crossing, Lickinghole Creek, and Answer are all pretty legit according to my beer nerd friends.

This is the correct answer.

Yes, this would have been my response, minus Lickinghole Creek.

Answer was a minor letdown. Veil and Triple Crossing were very good. Stone was ok, too, but they didn't have anything mindblowing that I hadn't had many times before.

I think this weekend is the East Coast beer bash at Triple Crossing's non-downtown location. Most of the major VA breweries plus Foam and some other great stuff.

I think that's this weekend, anyway.  Would have loved to go to that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 09, 2017, 04:09:59 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 09, 2017, 03:48:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 09, 2017, 12:49:05 pm
Quote from: Julian, Confirmation VIRTUOSO on November 09, 2017, 12:20:28 pm
Richmond definitely has a lot of places that are “places for white people to drink in public” more than “serious brewers trying to make quality beer.”

Veil, Triple Crossing, Lickinghole Creek, and Answer are all pretty legit according to my beer nerd friends.

This is the correct answer.

Yes, this would have been my response, minus Lickinghole Creek.

Answer was a minor letdown. Veil and Triple Crossing were very good. Stone was ok, too, but they didn't have anything mindblowing that I hadn't had many times before.

I think this weekend is the East Coast beer bash at Triple Crossing's non-downtown location. Most of the major VA breweries plus Foam and some other great stuff.

I think that's this weekend, anyway.  Would have loved to go to that.

Interesting... what didn't you like about The Answer?

If you don't like flavored stouts/kool aid goses, I can see it being a let down but I'm assuming you went in there knowing about the Andalls, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 09, 2017, 05:09:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 09, 2017, 03:48:23 pm
Make a point to hit these two:
1. Ocelot (but way too far for some people)
2. Aslin (but way too many shitty rules in terms of how you can acquire beer or even drink there, still waiting for news of their new spot)
Then a very long list of mediocre ones that probably aren't worth making a specific trip to unless you're in the area.
Aslin doesn't have a place you can drink right now...just buy cans and clothes
did talk to someone there two weeks ago and they are hoping to open in December...but it will probably be spring
Also, I think that BlueJacket in DC is really producing some fine brews, not sure why there is so much hate on them
Mexican Radio is fantastic and I loved the Wedding Sour they had (I'm sure that's gone now)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 09, 2017, 05:19:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 09, 2017, 04:09:59 pm
Interesting... what didn't you like about The Answer?

If you don't like flavored stouts/kool aid goses, I can see it being a let down but I'm assuming you went in there knowing about the Andalls, right?

I'm not into the flavored stuff too much. Venue is kind of meh. And aside from their own IPAs, there wasn't a lot that I wanted to try. Did have Aslin's Hazy Orange Tears while I was there, and that was good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 09, 2017, 05:37:15 pm
Quote from: Brother Love Hatch🚀🚀🚀🚀 on November 09, 2017, 05:09:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 09, 2017, 03:48:23 pm
Make a point to hit these two:
1. Ocelot (but way too far for some people)
2. Aslin (but way too many shitty rules in terms of how you can acquire beer or even drink there, still waiting for news of their new spot)
Then a very long list of mediocre ones that probably aren't worth making a specific trip to unless you're in the area.
Aslin doesn't have a place you can drink right now...just buy cans and clothes
did talk to someone there two weeks ago and they are hoping to open in December...but it will probably be spring
Also, I think that BlueJacket in DC is really producing some fine brews, not sure why there is so much hate on them
Mexican Radio is fantastic and I loved the Wedding Sour they had (I'm sure that's gone now)

Yes, I'm in agreement on the Aslin piece which I said above... but their beer is a "must try" if you're in the DMV area.

I actually really like Blue Jacket too and considered putting them on the list, however, my issue with them is they typically have 20+ drafts on tap and maybe five of those drafts are A+ with the majority being mediocre at best.

I do love the greg wedding beer and I'd say the barrel aged mexican radio is as good as any of the big dogs in that arena.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2017, 03:03:08 pm
Double Duckpin better than Heady Topper, Sip of Sunshine, and the Veil's Idonteverwant2bu? Triple Crossing with two of the top 5 DIPA's? LOL

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/10/176-of-the-best-dipaimperial-ipas-blind-tasted-and.html?a=1
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on November 19, 2017, 10:57:42 am
I spoke briefly with Greg Engert yesterday at the Owen's Ordinary anniversary event.  He said to expect Bluejacket to start canning beer around March and to expect an announcement around that time related to a barrel aged beer club. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 20, 2017, 10:46:51 am
First time for the Founder's Doom last Friday on tap at WOB Rockville.  It's an expensive, one and done type brew but what a pleasurable experience.  Pours a beautiful bourbon-like amber hue and tastes like you're sipping whiskey when it warms.   Exquisite!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 23, 2017, 06:40:57 pm
So what beers were on your Thanksgiving menu? For us:

Space Homebrew 3.0 DIPA
Lagunitas Born Yesterday
New Glarus Cran-bic (last one :()
Goose Coffee BCBS 2013 (last one :()
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 23, 2017, 09:20:22 pm
How's that 2013?

Master of Oranges. Backwoods Bastard. 3rd TBD.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 23, 2017, 10:51:45 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 23, 2017, 09:20:22 pm
How's that 2013?

Master of Oranges. Backwoods Bastard. 3rd TBD.

My wife said it was "musty". Which is her way of saying it was past it's prime. No complaints from me, it paired well with the homemade chocolate pecan pie. Hoping I can score a bottle of Coffee tomorrow, though 2013 was the last time I accomplished that feat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 24, 2017, 12:43:34 pm
Personally, I think they peak after sitting for one year. Two years takes too much of the edge off. Still delicious, of course.

Did not even consider going out today. The coffee is really good tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 24, 2017, 03:24:05 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 24, 2017, 12:43:34 pm
Personally, I think they peak after sitting for one year. Two years takes too much of the edge off. Still delicious, of course.

Did not even consider going out today. The coffee is really good tho.

I went to my local Total Wine. They had all five variants (Regular, Barleywine, Coffee, NorthWoods,, Reserve). I waited in line for 30 mins (was #29 and #30 in line") with my wife and picked up one of each, and my wife grabbed and extra Coffee. Honesty, they had so much of everything i can only imagine we could have arrived at the opening time and picked up everyrthing (thanks to AB InBev for that?)

I'm not one to stand in long lines for beer, but a 30 min break from my bratty kid hanging with my wife is sometimes a nice thing!

I do miss the days when the stuff was $15 a four pack instead of $15 a bottle. At least i had a 10% off coupon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on November 25, 2017, 04:22:02 am
I went to my local Total Wine and got a few bottles of the classic, one of the barleywine and one Northwoods. The prices are fairly outrageous and it varies from store to store. Luckily I also had my trusty 10% off coupon!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 28, 2017, 11:49:39 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 23, 2017, 06:40:57 pm
So what beers were on your Thanksgiving menu? For us:

Space Homebrew 3.0 DIPA
Lagunitas Born Yesterday
New Glarus Cran-bic (last one :()
Goose Coffee BCBS 2013 (last one :()

I brought up a bunch of Veil IPAs and goses, Hill Farmstead Anna (paired GREAT with Thanksgiving dinner), and a '16 KBS. Brother-in-law also brought a few cans of M43 since he was flying in from Michigan.

This is probably the first year where I didn't even bother going out for BCBS. It also didn't help that the entire state of New Jersey was devoid of variants. I will say that Wrench by Industrial Arts is a quality NEIPA that gets distro in the NY/NJ area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 30, 2017, 11:40:14 am
Anybody going to Churchkey tomorrow for the CBS/KBS/bunch of other Founders beers tapping?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 30, 2017, 03:07:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 30, 2017, 11:40:14 am
Anybody going to Churchkey tomorrow for the CBS/KBS/bunch of other Founders beers tapping?

No.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 30, 2017, 03:15:48 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 30, 2017, 03:07:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 30, 2017, 11:40:14 am
Anybody going to Churchkey tomorrow for the CBS/KBS/bunch of other Founders beers tapping?

No.
Can confirm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 30, 2017, 04:39:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 30, 2017, 03:07:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 30, 2017, 11:40:14 am
Anybody going to Churchkey tomorrow for the CBS/KBS/bunch of other Founders beers tapping?

No.

I have a kid related holiday potluck party to go to a couple hours later. Seems like i should definitely have some CBS before that. Maybe even BCBS  too if it's still on draft at P Street.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 30, 2017, 06:01:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 30, 2017, 11:40:14 am
Anybody going to Churchkey tomorrow for the CBS/KBS/bunch of other Founders beers tapping?

Also no.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 30, 2017, 07:00:42 pm
so, is anyone making any efforts to snag some CBS tomorrow?

i just got word that my local BevMo will be getting a case, so imma gunno roll the dice on a mid-morning fly-by.  this beer has been my white whale for years.  MUST HAVE (or, at least, would really really really like to try it...)

SPACE ADVISORY: per Founder's website, the 22 oz bottles have a suggested retail price of $24.99.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 30, 2017, 07:19:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 30, 2017, 07:00:42 pm
so, is anyone making any efforts to snag some CBS tomorrow?

i just got word that my local BevMo will be getting a case, so imma gunno roll the dice on a mid-morning fly-by.  this beer has been my white whale for years.  MUST HAVE (or, at least, would really really really like to try it...)

SPACE ADVISORY: per Founder's website, the 22 oz bottles have a suggested retail price of $24.99.

Suggested price $25 but they're asking $30 at Craft Beer Cellar and Total Wine Probably the same elsewhere around here as Total Wine is usually the cheapest. Still might try to snag a bottle. One bottle. The again my wife hates that kind of beer and who really needs more than a small pour so i figure a pour at Churchkey *might* be under $30.

I think there's a lot more of it this time around. Last time it was out I had to win a lottery at Whole Foods just to get a chance at buying a single bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 30, 2017, 07:36:35 pm
since moving to the pacific northwest, i've been mainlining IPAs - no surprise there.  of all the IPAs i've had, Fremont Lush (https://www.fremontbrewing.com/lush) is my currently-available favorite.  this is their top-shelf IPA, vs. their "regular" Interurban IPA (which ain't no slouch either).  Lush is typically $2-3 more per sixer and it's soooo worth it.  it's the first beer that i've drank, that i'm aware of, that uses lupulin powder (https://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/15278/magic-dust-will-a-new-oil-rich-powder-change-hoppy-beers/) (AKA "hop hash").  the stuff is new, and expensive, but damn does it bring the hop characteristics! 

an amazing series that Fremont did during hop harvest season was Field to Ferment (https://www.fremontbrewing.com/field-to-ferment), probably the best fresh hop/wet hop/harvest ale i've ever had.  they did three rounds of it, apparently reflecting the different harvest dates: Centennial, Amarillo, and Citra.  the Citra was mind-blowing, i think i went through 7 or 8 packs while it was available back in sept/oct - for a month and a half it was all that i drank.  can't wait for it to come back next year.

i've been getting some less-than-a-week-old Fresh Squeezed, from Deschutes.  i would like to remind every one that this beer is damn, damn fine.  like Lush, it features Citra and Mosaic hops - a killer combo. 

speaking of Deschutes, i'd suggest avoiding their Hopzeit Autumn IPA.  the concept ("make a german IPA") is way more interesting than the reality.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 30, 2017, 09:28:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 30, 2017, 07:00:42 pm
so, is anyone making any efforts to snag some CBS tomorrow?

Have, sadly, never even seen a bottle of it. Would try to snag one but I'm sure as soon as I'd  head out around lunch they'll be long gone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 30, 2017, 10:55:49 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 30, 2017, 09:28:25 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 30, 2017, 07:00:42 pm
so, is anyone making any efforts to snag some CBS tomorrow?

Have, sadly, never even seen a bottle of it. Would try to snag one but I'm sure as soon as I'd  head out around lunch they'll be long gone.

Craft Beer Cellar is selling bottles to the first 36 customers starting at noon tomorrow. So there's that, if you're able. I actually work a 10 minute walk from there. but can't get one because they don't let me bring beer into work...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 01, 2017, 01:49:23 am
Wouldn't there be 36 lined up by 7am, though?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:08:26 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 01, 2017, 01:49:23 am
Wouldn't there be 36 lined up by 7am, though?

I don't know. Are there really 36 people in DC who would line up for five hours in the freezing cold to get a single bottle of beer that costs $30?

 Honestly, my strategy for something like this is to find a store that doesn't advertise their shipments on their social media page.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 01, 2017, 09:15:51 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:08:26 am
Honestly, my strategy for something like this is to find a store that doesn't advertise their shipments on their social media page.
"Effort and luck" is the strategy of the poor. In Julian's America, we wait until the secondary market declares the items true value, then send our agent to go purchase it away from street urchins who are more concerned with putting food on their tablets than putting elite beer in their gullets. Its called gentrification. We'd gentrify the hell out of that beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:44:16 am
Two other not to be overlooked barrel aged stouts out in VA today...

BA Ten Fidy, ~$13/19 oz can
Victory Java Cask ~$30/4 pack

Damn these prices are getting crazy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2017, 09:47:24 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:44:16 am
Two other not to be overlooked barrel aged stouts out in VA today...

BA Ten Fidy, ~$13/19 oz can
Victory Java Cask ~$30/4 pack

Damn these prices are getting crazy.

BA Ted Fidy has been that price for years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:51:31 am
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2017, 09:47:24 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:44:16 am
Two other not to be overlooked barrel aged stouts out in VA today...

BA Ten Fidy, ~$13/19 oz can
Victory Java Cask ~$30/4 pack

Damn these prices are getting crazy.

BA Ted Fidy has been that price for years.

"Years?" That beer wasn't even distributed until 2015.

But I was just making a general observation about the rising cost of premium craft beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 10:13:24 am
I just called my local Total Wine, and they said the supply survived the initial opening rush. Seems like there's just way more of this beer this time out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 01, 2017, 10:39:53 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:08:26 am

I don't know. Are there really 36 people in DC who would line up for five hours in the freezing cold to get a single bottle of beer that costs $30?

 Honestly, my strategy for something like this is to find a store that doesn't advertise their shipments on their social media page.

I believe there are at least 40. :D

Your point about social media is a good one. Calvert Woodley announced it on twitter and sold their entire allotment almost immediately.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2017, 10:42:34 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:51:31 am
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2017, 09:47:24 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:44:16 am
Two other not to be overlooked barrel aged stouts out in VA today...

BA Ten Fidy, ~$13/19 oz can
Victory Java Cask ~$30/4 pack

Damn these prices are getting crazy.

BA Ted Fidy has been that price for years.

"Years?" That beer wasn't even distributed until 2015.

But I was just making a general observation about the rising cost of premium craft beer.

Yes, years. The past two.

Pretty sure this stuff is flowing like water accross the DMV.

(https://i.imgur.com/Tv0pouW.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2017, 10:44:50 am
sweets... you're losing your edge in your old age/retirement to the west coast.

lupulin powder has been pretty prevalent in most of the east coast "hop" breweries for quite some time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2017, 05:24:36 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 01, 2017, 10:39:53 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 09:08:26 am

I don't know. Are there really 36 people in DC who would line up for five hours in the freezing cold to get a single bottle of beer that costs $30?

 Honestly, my strategy for something like this is to find a store that doesn't advertise their shipments on their social media page.

I believe there are at least 40. :D

Your point about social media is a good one. Calvert Woodley announced it on twitter and sold their entire allotment almost immediately.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcKpxF_Fsmn/?taken-by=cbc_dc

Indeed a line at noon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 01, 2017, 07:36:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2017, 10:44:50 am
lupulin powder has been pretty prevalent in most of the east coast "hop" breweries for quite some time.

not sure where you're getting your info, brah, but lupulin powder is about a year old.  YCH first released it, on a very limited basis, about this time last year - AKA after the 2016 hop harvest.  it wasn't widely available for breweries until late winter/early spring this year.  it's just starting to be available for homebrewers, but just barely. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 01, 2017, 09:14:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 01, 2017, 07:36:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 01, 2017, 10:44:50 am
lupulin powder has been pretty prevalent in most of the east coast "hop" breweries for quite some time.

not sure where you're getting your info, brah, but lupulin powder is about a year old.  YCH first released it, on a very limited basis, about this time last year - AKA after the 2016 hop harvest.  it wasn't widely available for breweries until late winter/early spring this year.  it's just starting to be available for homebrewers, but just barely.

I'm not getting info anywhere,  basing it on experience of drinking beers with it recently. A year is probably accurate but at least around these parts I've had approximately 8 to 10 breweries that have used it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2017, 03:13:06 am
so i scored a bottle of CBS today, $28.59 with taxes.  i've finally caught my white whale - although the wide release and abundant availability make this less of a feat that i had imagined it to be.  gonna save the bottle for my birthday in february.  interesting factoid: nowhere on the bottle does it say "canadian breakkfast stout"... only CBS.

i also hit up Costco today and snagged 1 Velvet Merkin, 2 B-Bombs and 3 BCBS regulars. by the way, how much did y'all pay for BCBS?

(https://i.imgur.com/F2xoEvW.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 02, 2017, 11:08:08 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 02, 2017, 03:13:06 am
so i scored a bottle of CBS today, $28.59 with taxes.  i've finally caught my white whale - although the wide release and abundant availability make this less of a feat that i had imagined it to be.  gonna save the bottle for my birthday in february.  interesting factoid: nowhere on the bottle does it say "canadian breakkfast stout"... only CBS.

i also hit up Costco today and snagged 1 Velvet Merkin, 2 B-Bombs and 3 BCBS regulars. by the way, how much did y'all pay for BCBS?

(https://i.imgur.com/F2xoEvW.jpg)

I'm afraid you may be let down after years of hunting and the high availability of pastry stouts these days. It's indeed damn good, but maybe not the perfection it once was, definitely a tad thin but tastes phenomenal IMO.

B-Bomb and BCBS most likely have a better mouth feel than CBS.

Velvet Merkin was pretty mediocre based on my experience last week.

I heard Space is considering a cross country drive to pick up those $8.89 bottles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 02, 2017, 11:49:17 am
I drank a $5 flight that included 2016 and 2017 BCBS, then a $5 8oz pour all at P St WF, then a $7 4oz pour of CBS at Churchkey. All of that helped me to enjoy the kid party later after a lot more.

Anyway, 2016 BCBS was clearly the best of those three for me. Tasted damn fine with a year on it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 04, 2017, 01:47:10 pm
Speaking of Founders, Breakfast Stout and Backwoods Bastard moving to year round status. Yay. Someone on BA also mentioned Founders Imperial Stout is not on the 2018 calendar.

Also, have to say that CBS would taste so much better if they put it out in a $25-30 four pack.

https://foundersbrewing.com/latest-news/2017/2018-update-backwoods-bastard-and-breakfast-stout-to-be-year-round/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2017, 06:51:16 pm
Great news.

I'm not big on bombers of high octane beer, either. A pint would be fine, 12oz preferred.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 04, 2017, 08:48:05 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2017, 06:51:16 pm
Great news.

I'm not big on bombers of high octane beer, either. A pint would be fine, 12oz preferred.

Sorry to disappoint. At this point, it's just wishful thinking on my part!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2017, 10:32:45 pm
Oh, I got what you were saying. Happy to hear about the new year-round beers. Shame that bombers are still the only way to go for some high abv beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2017, 11:31:34 am
CBS is being distributed in Canada in 12oz Space friendly bottles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 05, 2017, 03:56:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2017, 11:31:34 am
CBS is being distributed in Canada in 12oz Space friendly bottles.

I wonder if I'll be able to pick some up on my August 2018 vacation to CANADA?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2017, 03:58:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 05, 2017, 03:56:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2017, 11:31:34 am
CBS is being distributed in Canada in 12oz Space friendly bottles.

I wonder if I'll be able to pick some up on my August 2018 vacation to CANADA?

@ggw, you catch this?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2017, 04:07:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 05, 2017, 03:56:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2017, 11:31:34 am
CBS is being distributed in Canada in 12oz Space friendly bottles.

I wonder if I'll be able to pick some up on my August 2018 vacation to CANADA?
*drink*

The Space Freely vacation drinking game will be the death of me yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 06, 2017, 04:53:05 pm
in no particular order, my top 36 beers of the year (all beers tried for the first time in this calendar year).


Stouts

1.   CBS (2017) – Founders
2.   Mexican Brunch – Kane Brewing
3.   Imperial Maple Junkie – Heist
4.   Darkstar November – Bottle Logic Brewing
5.   Barrel Aged Mexican Radio – Bluejacket
6.   BCBS Vanilla Rye (2014) – Good Island
7.   Coffee Cinnamon B-Bomb (2016) – Freemont
8.   Derivation – Side Project
9.   Barrel Aged Eliza – Fieldwork
10.   Imperial Stout with Coffee – Cycle

IPA

1.   DDH Vapid – Aslin
2.   Foshomo – Brew Gentlemen
3.   Crucial Taunt 3 – Veil
4.   Galaxy Dry Hopped Fort Point Pale Ale – Trillium
5.   Nothing Gold – Bissell Brothers
6.   Curiosity 39 – Treehouse
7.   Lou (Ales for ALS) – Brew Gentlemen
8.   DDH Double Mosaic Daydream – Other Half
9.   Swish – Bissell Brothers
10.   Foggier Window – Monkish

Sours

1.   Sonoran Prince – Arizona Wilderness Brewing
2.   Amorphia – Hudson Valley Brewing
3.   Le Seul X (Passion Fruit) – Une Annee Brewery
4.   Ultrasphere – Hudson Valley Brewing
5.   La Vie En Rose – Jester King
6.   Oude Geuze Cuvee A+G – 3F
7.   Imperial Stone Bu – De Garde
8.   Lady Lay – Cellador Ales
9.   Arthur 2/15 – Hill Farmstead
10.   Momoko – Oxbow Brewing
11.   With Friends Like These – De Garde
12.   Fou Foune (2013) – Cantillon
13.   Never Never Forever Forever – Veil
14.   DFPF – J. Wakefield
15.   Jammy – Side Project
16.   Fuzzy – Side Project
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on December 06, 2017, 05:27:51 pm
You can only come up with 7 albums, but can name 36 beers? I think we know where your priorities are.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 06, 2017, 05:32:29 pm
Quote from: ggw on December 06, 2017, 05:27:51 pm
You can only come up with 7 albums, but can name 36 beers? I think we know where your priorities are.

Julian can confirm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 06, 2017, 08:49:40 pm
Sure, but what were your favorite dopplebocks, witbiers, and pilsners?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 07, 2017, 05:52:41 pm
I just got three of these at $8 each. But for a limited time, you can get one of them for $25. Beer scalpers, gotta love them.

https://www.mybeercollectibles.com/listing/aslin-sprechen-sie-deutsch-imperial-stout-15/346846

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 07, 2017, 06:29:37 pm
or you could go for the Bourbon County - 2005-2017 - Complete Set, 43 bottles  (https://www.mybeercollectibles.com/listing/bourbon-county-2005-2017-complete-set-43-bottles/344630)- for the space friendly price of $4350

Crazy to think that someone might drop that much for beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 07, 2017, 07:09:29 pm
This is riveting guys....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 07, 2017, 07:30:00 pm
No. This is riveting.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11036/112316/ (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11036/112316/?ba=dbrauneis)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2017, 09:55:39 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 06, 2017, 08:49:40 pm
Sure, but what were your favorite dopplebocks, witbiers, and pilsners?

I don't drink dopples or witbiers, but I'm sure I could make at least a top five of pilsners.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2017, 12:36:40 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcaedPgBzW6/?taken-by=beerguy416
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 08, 2017, 03:51:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 08, 2017, 12:36:40 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcaedPgBzW6/?taken-by=beerguy416

So one 12 oz bottle is $6.61 US and a four pack is less that a bomber. As Tweedy would sing, "We've Been Had."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 08, 2017, 05:06:13 pm
That, in a word, really sucks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Darth Ed on December 08, 2017, 05:54:48 pm
I recently had a couple pints of Victory Moonglow Weizenbock on draft, and I was blown away. It's the best beer I've had this year, but I don't try nearly as many beers as StoneTheCrow or Space Freely, I'm sure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 08, 2017, 06:04:58 pm
Quote from: Darth Ed on December 08, 2017, 05:54:48 pm
I recently had a couple pints of Victory Moonglow Weizenbock on draft, and I was blown away. It's the best beer I've had this year, but I don't try nearly as many beers as StoneTheCrow or Space Freely, I'm sure.

Good call on that one. Definitely an old favorite of mine, though I haven't had it in a couple of years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 09, 2017, 06:29:32 pm
I love beer when it snows..not sure why
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 13, 2017, 07:21:33 pm
folks in Columbia, and frankly all of you, should be excited about this new brewery opening in mid-2018:  https://sapwoodcellars.com/ (https://sapwoodcellars.com/)

i know the two guys behind it, mike tonsmeire and scott janish, through the DC Homebrewers Club - and their numerous publications.  mike literally wrote the book on sour beers (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1938469119/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1938469119&linkCode=as2&tag=themadferm-20&linkId=7MFVKA4HRLQNC6WV) and scott's blog (http://scottjanish.com/) is a must-read for beer science dorks (he knows more about the chemistry of hops (http://scottjanish.com/book-announcement/) than arguably anyone else).  per my chats with them, the plan is to make ridiculously hoppy beers to pay the bills in order to finance the sour beer operation.

having tried many of their beers over the years, i have absolutely no doubt that these guys are going to kick all sorts of ass.  keep an eye out for them...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 20, 2017, 02:18:08 pm
12/20 tonight
Aslin tap take over  at Rustico Ballston
for an unforgettable night with 12 different beers on tap! This is the first in a series of tap takeovers you’ll see from us over the next month! Stop in, have a beer, & try to snag a collectible glass at each event

 THE OFFICIAL ASLIN INVADES RUSTICO BALLSTON DRAFT LIST
- Sprechen Sie Deutsch? (Imperial Stout w/ Cocoa, Coffee, Pecans, Vanilla & Coconut)
- Flip Flops & Socks (Sour Saison w/ Blackcurrant)
- San Antone Sausier (IPA w/ Simcoe, Amarillo & Waimea Hops)
- Cotton (Imperial Stout w/ Marshmallow, Coconut, Coffee, Nuts, Cocoa & Vanilla)
- Johann Buys a Broat (Imperial IPA w/ Pineapple, Orange & Vanilla)
- Orange Starfish (IPA w/ Citra & Galaxy Hops)
- Master of Oranges (IPA w/ Galaxy, Mosaic, Citra & Amarillo Hops)
- Master of Karate (Imperial IPA w/ Mosaic, Galaxy & Amarillo Hops)
- Neurtino (IPA w/ Galaxy Hops)
- Chirp (IPA w/ Citra, Amarillo & Lactose)
- Anthemic (Pilsner)
- You Call that A Knife (Imperial IPA w/ Citra, Vic Secret & Waimeia Hops)
- Lapse of Reason (Imperial Porter w/ Coffee & Vanilla)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 20, 2017, 05:16:21 pm
Quote from: Brother Love Hatch🚀🚀🚀🚀 on December 20, 2017, 02:18:08 pm
12/20 tonight
Aslin tap take over  at Rustico Ballston
for an unforgettable night with 12 different beers on tap! This is the first in a series of tap takeovers you’ll see from us over the next month! Stop in, have a beer, & try to snag a collectible glass at each event

 THE OFFICIAL ASLIN INVADES RUSTICO BALLSTON DRAFT LIST
- Sprechen Sie Deutsch? (Imperial Stout w/ Cocoa, Coffee, Pecans, Vanilla & Coconut)
- Flip Flops & Socks (Sour Saison w/ Blackcurrant)
- San Antone Sausier (IPA w/ Simcoe, Amarillo & Waimea Hops)
- Cotton (Imperial Stout w/ Marshmallow, Coconut, Coffee, Nuts, Cocoa & Vanilla)
- Johann Buys a Broat (Imperial IPA w/ Pineapple, Orange & Vanilla)
- Orange Starfish (IPA w/ Citra & Galaxy Hops)
- Master of Oranges (IPA w/ Galaxy, Mosaic, Citra & Amarillo Hops)
- Master of Karate (Imperial IPA w/ Mosaic, Galaxy & Amarillo Hops)
- Neurtino (IPA w/ Galaxy Hops)
- Chirp (IPA w/ Citra, Amarillo & Lactose)
- Anthemic (Pilsner)
- You Call that A Knife (Imperial IPA w/ Citra, Vic Secret & Waimeia Hops)
- Lapse of Reason (Imperial Porter w/ Coffee & Vanilla)

Was thinking of going to that but then remembered I have six different Aslin beers at home already, including three on that list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 20, 2017, 05:26:41 pm
#spacehumblebrag
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 20, 2017, 05:26:53 pm
An epic beer day for the Freely family yesterday in Richmond.

An early lunch at Mekong had us drinking before noon. We shared Knee Deep Simtra Triple IPA, The Bruery Sour in the Rye, and Oskar Blues BA Ten Fidy.

Then a 2.5 hour break at the Science Museum (highly recommended), and back to more beer drinking.

Next up, a stop at Hardywood. There I had a Kentucky Christmas Morning (the bourbon/coffee version of Gingerbread Stout), which was great. My wife had Rum GBS, tasted like a rum and Coke, not really my thing. They also had some great tunes playing (Iggy and the Stooges and some other stuff of that ilk) and it was warm enough to sit outside. Great to be at Hardywood when it wasn't packed with people.

And finally a stop at the Veil. Where unfortunately we stood in line for two+ hours to get cans, and they did the line on the sidewalk instead of the usual parking lot, so no drinking in line. But fortunately, we were able to trade off, and in that time span shared a raspberry gose, a triple IPA, and a double IPA with maple. Sorry, too lazy to look up the names. Got all the cans we wanted. Even better, I ran into Yada! Even betterer, we won one of the food truck raffles and got a free can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 20, 2017, 05:35:04 pm
dang and you guys didn't call jules for a bordie meetup

I've been meaning to mention another VA brewery producing a delicious beer
Benchtop breweing out of Norfolk.
The proven theory IPA was awesome

I've really been enjoying the Three Notch'd/oskar colab Black & Goldings Ale
Hop Luck by Offshoot  and Peak Oil by Magnify were two recent finds that was worth mentioning
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 20, 2017, 05:44:04 pm
Quote from: Brother Love Hatch🚀🚀🚀🚀 on December 20, 2017, 05:35:04 pm
dang and you guys didn't call jules for a bordie meetup

I've been meaning to mention another VA brewery producing a delicious beer
Benchtop breweing out of Norfolk.
The proven theory IPA was awesome

I've really been enjoying the Three Notch'd/oskar colab Black & Goldings Ale
Hop Luck by Offshoot  and Peak Oil by Magnify were two recent finds that was worth mentioning

Julian has previously graciously reached out and offered a meet up, but to be honest my wife doesn't want to meet Julian because of the way he picks on women with weight issues.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 20, 2017, 05:48:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 20, 2017, 05:44:04 pm
Julian has previously graciously reached out and offered a meet up,
Can confirm.

Quote from: Space Freely on December 20, 2017, 05:44:04 pm
but to be honest my wife doesn't want to meet Julian
Cannot confirm.

Quote from: Space Freely on December 20, 2017, 05:44:04 pm
the way he picks on womenpeople, gender in-specific, with weight issues.
Can confirm with the above alteration.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 20, 2017, 05:56:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 20, 2017, 05:26:53 pm

An early lunch at Mekong had us drinking before noon. We shared Knee Deep Simtra Triple IPA, The Bruery Sour in the Rye, and Oskar Blues BA Ten Fidy.

I ran into Yada!

Can confirm.

Can also confirm Space hasn't had a haircut during the Trump administration.

Additionally, why on earth weren't you drinkin' some of the andalls? Cash Me Outside may be my favorite stout ever!

I spent way too much money in Richmond yesterday, that is for sure... and that line was for the birds!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 20, 2017, 06:14:42 pm
If you must....

https://www.tastingtable.com/drinks/national/nonalcoholic-beers-taste-test
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 20, 2017, 07:01:04 pm
Quote from: Brother Love Hatch🚀🚀🚀🚀 on December 20, 2017, 05:26:41 pm
#spacehumblebrag

If you go, let us know your favorites. I loved that Sprechen Sie Deutsch stout. I bought three cans, but wish i had gotten more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 20, 2017, 08:12:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 20, 2017, 07:01:04 pm
Quote from: Brother Love Hatch🚀🚀🚀🚀 on December 20, 2017, 05:26:41 pm
#spacehumblebrag

If you go, let us know your favorites. I loved that Sprechen Sie Deutsch stout. I bought three cans, but wish i had gotten more.
Was a great time
Got to chat with Andrew Kelly and he recommended SSD
Man that was good...like a chocolate cake in a glass
Also the neutrino he said was kegged 4 hours ago
His feeling was that the the hoppy NE IPAs are best around 20 to 45 days

Almost all the Aslin kegs we're kicked by 7

Looking like the tasting room will open in February
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on December 23, 2017, 01:15:52 pm
I hate, stouts . . . I really do.  please, baby jesus, make super dark beers go away, and erase the history of the person who invented the idea of mixing coffee with dark beer.

but, last night, after a glorious bottle of Laertus from Pen Druid . . . I decided to break down an open my lone bottle of 2015 BCBS.  It opened fine, without the fizzing disaster of the bad batches.  GUUUURRRLLLL, that shit was the bomb.  Boozy boozhound with booze on top.  Loved it.  But, have no desire, to try again.

The, end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on December 25, 2017, 04:49:34 pm
merry jesus day, every,one.  anybody doing some nice beers for the day?

I am doing, a Cascade Sang Du Chene  and my man, a Perennial Abraxas.  And maybe a lagunitas brown sugga or two.  why not . . . where am I going?

followed by some bubbly for the both of us.  We love Gruet, Rose.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 25, 2017, 07:15:49 pm
Nothing fancy - just everyday selections. Sixpoint IIPA, The Calling, Stone Go To. Maybe a negroni later on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 25, 2017, 09:53:18 pm
The Answer today.

Decided to empty my beer fridge (as i did last year) but this time stick to brown liquor and the occasional wine for a while afterwards. Beer'd myself out this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 04, 2018, 01:48:13 am
in case you're looking for a different kind of beer event, and/or are interested in learning a little about homebrewing, check out the event below.  and by law homebrew can't be sold so there will be a lot of free beer...

DC Homebrewers 10th Anniversary
When: Sunday, January 14
Where: Right Proper Brewing www.rightproperbrewing.com (http://www.rightproperbrewing.com)

Nathan Zeender was once this city’s hot shot homebrewer. Now, he makes his beers on a much larger scale as the head brewer at one of the region’s best breweries, Right Proper. Still, Zeender hasn’t forgotten the mean streets of carboys and overstuffed garages that birthed him, and on January 14, Right Proper’s Brookland Production House will host the tenth birthday party for the DC Homebrewers Club.

The big ticket item: The event will serve as the debut for Harmonium, a collaboration between Right Proper and the DC Homebrewers Club. Clocking in at a whopping 4%, this Berliner Weisse was dry-hopped with Galaxy, Motueka, and Mosaic. If you’ve had Diamonds, Fur Coats, Champagne or any of its seasonal siblings, you are already familiar with Zeender’s prowess with dry-hopped Berliners, so it will be interesting to see how he and the homebrewers tweak that formula.

According to the press release, “DC Homebrewers will also have a homebrewed anniversary beer blend, plus previous anniversary beers available, and our usual assortment of delicious homebrews that everyone brings.” Cool, cool, cool.

If you can’t make the shindig, look for Harmonium around town in the weeks to follow.


(from https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/draft-picks-januarys-best-beer-events-2)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 11, 2018, 09:41:13 pm
next time you're in Vermont and feel the need for something else, head north:

Wild, Wild Beer (https://www.bonappetit.com/story/wildwild-beer)
Québec breweries are creating Canada’s wildest beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 11, 2018, 10:46:49 pm
Abraxas, in bottle . . . Ok.

Abraxas, in growler, so much more destruction of flavor on my tongue. That, Mexican chocolate taste, yo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 11, 2018, 10:57:24 pm
And, I don't know why, but it sort of annoys me that you can now get Founders Backwoods Bastard all year long.  I used to love the fact that, it only came out in a certain time of the year and it was awesome when it did. Now they have the big bombers, and everything has changed. Welcome to the, new world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 12, 2018, 06:46:26 am
You knew it would happen... but they are naming beers after hutch
https://thetakeout.com/breweries-toast-trump-with-very-stable-genius-beers-1821988679
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 12, 2018, 10:48:11 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 11, 2018, 10:57:24 pm
And, I don't know why, but it sort of annoys me that you can now get Founders Backwoods Bastard all year long.  I used to love the fact that, it only came out in a certain time of the year and it was awesome when it did. Now they have the big bombers, and everything has changed. Welcome to the, new world.

Are the four packs year round, or just the bomber?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 23, 2018, 10:50:42 am
Tuesday, January 30th, as ChurchKey hosts the fine folks from Aslin Beer Company. On this night, we’ll showcase 25 different beers from the red-hot brewery from Herndon, VA!

Over the upcoming weeks, Aslin is hosting a series of exciting events in Washington, DC leading up to the grand opening of their brand new tasting room. ChurchKey is honored to kick things off with the first official DC event, featuring one of the largest collections of Aslin beers ever assembled!

Highlights from the incredible list include Cocoa Mapalm, an Imperial Stout finished with cocoa nibs, maple syrup and vanilla; Sorbet, a juicy IPA infused with peach and mango; and Pinkies Up, a quintuple dry-hopped, 18.4% abv Imperial IPA.

If that wasn't enough, we'll also be giving away a limited amount of Aslin x ChurchKey glassware, available exclusively at this event. Make sure to get here early to snag yourself one of these limited release collector's items!

There is no admission charge for the event. All Aslin beers will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours.

Additionally, Birch & Barley will feature a 6-course tasting menu paired exclusively with Aslin beers!

This special tasting menu is available throughout our dinner service, from 5:30 PM until 10:00 PM. All Birch & Barley dinner reservations can be made by visiting birchandbarley.com or by calling (202) 567-2576.

THE OFFICIAL ASLIN BEER COMPANY TAP TAKEOVER DRAFT LIST
- Anthemic (Pilsner)
- Berliner Weisse: Boysenberry, Blackberry & Blueberry (Berliner Weisse w/ Berries)
- Bringo (IPA w/ Rosemary & Vanilla)
- Cocoa Mapalm (Imperial Stout w/ Cocoa, Maple & Vanilla)
- Cotton (Imperial Stout w/ Vanilla, Cocoa, Coffee, Coconut, Marshmallow & Nuts)
- Double Orange Starfish (Imperial IPA w/ Citra & Galaxy)
- Flip Flops & Socks (Sour Saison w/ Blackcurrant)
- Freudian Accordian (IPA w/ Amarillo, Citra, Vic Secret & Nelson)
- Gose: Blackberry & Raspberry (Gose w/ Berries)
- Haka (Imperial IPA w/ Nelson Sauvin)
- Johann Needs A Bigger Broat (Imperial IPA w/ Vanilla)
- Kokomo (Imperial Stout w/ Coffee & Cocoa)
- Macarooned (Imperial Stout w/ Chocolate & Coconut)
- Master of Karate (Imperial IPA w/ Mosaic, Galaxy & Amarillo)
- Master of Oranges (IPA w/ Galaxy, Mosaic, Citra & Amarillo)
- Mexican Hot Chocolate (Imperial Stout w/ Vanilla, Chilies & Spices)
- Never A Bride (Saison)
- Nuances of Meaning (IPA w/ Citra & Mosaic)
- Nullify This (Imperial IPA w/ Enigma, Citra & Nelson; Charles Towne Collab)
- Orange Starfish (IPA w/ Citra & Galaxy)
- Pinkies Up (Imperial IPA w/ Citra, Galaxy, Nelson, Mosaic & Amarillo)
- Sorbet (IPA w/ Peach & Mango)
- Sensei (Imperial IPA w/ Mosaic, Amarillo & Galaxy)
- Sprechen Sie Deutsch? (Imperial Stout w/ Vanilla, Cocoa, Coffee, Coconut & Pecans)
- Stellar Parallax (Imperial IPA w/ Galaxy, Simcoe & Mosaic)
- The Underground (Pale Ale)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 23, 2018, 11:58:35 am
As the resident value seeker, I'm going to boast of having attended the Pizza Paradiso/Aslin night, where all beers were $4 for happy hour and you got the free glassware to boot. The draft list wasn't nearly as extensive, but it was way more than adequate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 23, 2018, 08:28:19 pm
decided, to buy a few dog fish head 120 minute, because I have not had it for awhile, as well as something called La Bonte from Wicked Weed and a bottle of Avery Lunctis Viribus.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 23, 2018, 10:13:23 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 23, 2018, 08:28:19 pm
decided, to buy a few dog fish head 120 minute, because I have not had it for awhile, as well as something called La Bonte from Wicked Weed and a bottle of Avery Lunctis Viribus.

Speaking of Dogfish, we split a 12 oz Oak Aged World Wide Stout tonight. Lord that beer is a beast.

Looking at that Churchkey/Aslin list, I might just have to do it. I'll have 30 mins before i need to head to the train Wonder how much i can drink and how many glasses i can score?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 24, 2018, 03:23:36 pm
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/experience/food-and-wine/2018/01/24/downtown-disney-plans-first-brewery-anaheim-california/1057673001/

Sounds like a #naturalspacevacation to me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 24, 2018, 04:11:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 24, 2018, 03:23:36 pm
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/experience/food-and-wine/2018/01/24/downtown-disney-plans-first-brewery-anaheim-california/1057673001/

Sounds like a #naturalspacevacation to me.

Haha.

We *are* driving to Miami for Spring Break, with a detour to Charleston on the way home. Is this the list of breweries we want to hit?

Aardwolf (Jacksonville)
Civil Society (Jupiter)
Funky Buddha (Ft Lauderdale)
J. Wakefield (Miami)
Charles Town Fermentory (Charleston)
Edmunds Oast (Charleston)
Westbrook (Mt Pleasant SC)
The Veil or the Answer (Richmond)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 24, 2018, 04:12:08 pm
Anybody want to buy a brewery?

http://www.fosters.com/news/20180118/smuttynose-brewing-co-to-be-sold-at-auction
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 24, 2018, 04:49:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 24, 2018, 04:11:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 24, 2018, 03:23:36 pm
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/experience/food-and-wine/2018/01/24/downtown-disney-plans-first-brewery-anaheim-california/1057673001/

Sounds like a #naturalspacevacation to me.

Haha.

We *are* driving to Miami for Spring Break, with a detour to Charleston on the way home. Is this the list of breweries we want to hit?

Aardwolf (Jacksonville)
Civil Society (Jupiter)
Funky Buddha (Ft Lauderdale)
J. Wakefield (Miami)
Charles Town Fermentory (Charleston)
Edmunds Oast (Charleston)
Westbrook (Mt Pleasant SC)
The Veil or the Answer (Richmond)

Aardwolf (Jacksonville) - Never heard of it
Civil Society (Jupiter) - Can confirm
Funky Buddha (Ft Lauderdale) - Depends what's on draft
J. Wakefield (Miami) - Depends what's on draft/in bottle
Charles Town Fermentory (Charleston) - Can confirm
Edmunds Oast (Charleston) - Never heard of it
Westbrook (Mt Pleasant SC) - Only if Mexican Cake is for sale/on draft
The Veil or the Answer (Richmond) - Can confirm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 24, 2018, 09:48:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 24, 2018, 04:49:21 pm
Civil Society (Jupiter) - Can confirm
Funky Buddha (Ft Lauderdale) - Depends what's on draft
J. Wakefield (Miami) - Depends what's on draft/in bottle
For sure Civil and JWB
even if you don't get the mind blowing pour of a beer at JWB, the Wynwood Arts District alone is worth it for walking around a few hours.

If you like the Belgians...Barrel of Monks in Boca is worth it vs going to funky budda
Odd Breed Just opened in Popano and they make some serious sours, but haven't been
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 24, 2018, 10:09:47 pm
Quote from: LosthismindHatch ♆ ✯ ㋡ 🖖 ⛄ on January 24, 2018, 09:48:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 24, 2018, 04:49:21 pm
Civil Society (Jupiter) - Can confirm
Funky Buddha (Ft Lauderdale) - Depends what's on draft
J. Wakefield (Miami) - Depends what's on draft/in bottle
For sure Civil and JWB
even if you don't get the mind blowing pour of a beer at JWB, the Wynwood Arts District alone is worth it for walking around a few hours.

If you like the Belgians...Barrel of Monks in Boca is worth it vs going to funky budda
Odd Breed Just opened in Popano and they make some serious sours, but haven't been

Thanks! BOM and OB both look very promising. May have to do them instead of FB. Staying in South Beach airbnb but yes planning on doing Wynwood for at least one night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 24, 2018, 10:14:55 pm
Gin and tonnica
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 25, 2018, 10:04:51 am
Ok Walkie...going to be in your neck of the woods staying in cabin at Lost River State Park WV for two days

what brewery would you recommend?

Swover Creek Farms Brewery
Lost River
Ridge Runner
Brothers craft (this one seems to be leading the pack with what is on tap right now)
Pale Fire
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 25, 2018, 10:58:27 am
Ridge Runner for the views and the beers are ok. Brothers for the best beers.  Unfortunately, the mountains have not honed the craft of excellent beers, just yet.

Also, hopslam just hit my beer shoppe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 26, 2018, 11:55:06 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 25, 2018, 10:58:27 am


Also, hopslam just hit my beer shoppe.


Not getting Slammed this year but it is time for some Nugget Nectar
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 26, 2018, 11:56:41 am
Asheville, NC: if you're going to hit up one brewery there it should be . . .
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 26, 2018, 12:17:23 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 26, 2018, 11:56:41 am
Asheville, NC: if you're going to hit up one brewery there it should be . . .

It depends on what you're looking for.

I liked New Belgium for the "scene." Great tour with good amount of free beer. Nice river views from the tasting room. Large outdoor lawn with food trucks to play on with your kids or dogs or significant other.

I liked Wicked Weed Funkatorium for the beers (almost all sours, if that's not your bag, this is not your place), though some would now object because they've been bought by AB-Inbev. I liked WW Funkatorium a lot more than their main Wicked Weed brewpub (which features their whole range of beers though only one or two sours at a time)....much more relaxed atmosphere at the Funkatorium.

And Burial for their hoppy beers, though they're probably not in the same league as the Veil (I didn't actually go there, but have had some of their beers.)

Pisgah Brewing over in Pisgah was fun if you're into watching open mic Grateful Dead cover bands and making fun of hippies (they also have a larger concert area featuring nationally touring bands, bookings tend toward the jammy.)

Some people rave about Sierra Nevada over in Mills River, but I found the atmosphere too sterile and palatial.

And Fonta Flora Brewing, in Morganton, which may or may not be on the drive to Asheville, was a very nice stop off place. Laid back vibe and excellent beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 26, 2018, 12:18:56 pm
Quote from: Bagley on January 26, 2018, 11:55:06 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 25, 2018, 10:58:27 am


Also, hopslam just hit my beer shoppe.


Not getting Slammed this year but it is time for some Nugget Nectar

I have my eye on Alewerks Bitter Valentine. First time ever in four packs of cans. Then again, I have so much Aslin and Veil in my fridge I should probably skip it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 08, 2018, 01:30:46 pm
<insert space gripes  here>

#savoreventsarebetterthantheeventitself
#tooexpensive
#blahblah

https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/experience/savor-breweries/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 08, 2018, 04:41:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 08, 2018, 01:30:46 pm
<insert space gripes  here>

#savoreventsarebetterthantheeventitself
#tooexpensive
#blahblah

https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/experience/savor-breweries/

Can you buy beer to take home at these, or are they strictly tasting events? Lawson's will be there and those tickets are cheaper than a trip to VT.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 08, 2018, 04:42:16 pm
ALSO CLOUDBURST

MUST GO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 08, 2018, 05:22:00 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on February 08, 2018, 04:41:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 08, 2018, 01:30:46 pm
<insert space gripes  here>

#savoreventsarebetterthantheeventitself
#tooexpensive
#blahblah

https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/experience/savor-breweries/

Can you buy beer to take home at these, or are they strictly tasting events? Lawson's will be there and those tickets are cheaper than a trip to VT.

Strictly tasting... however, you could sit in front of the Lawsons table for the entire night if you wanted.

Additionally, there's probably a pretty good chance Lawsons will host an event in DC that week if you want to see Space.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 09, 2018, 02:02:19 pm
Yay! It was touch and go there for a while, but looks like I'm headed to Portland next week with a mostly empty suitcase, with a side trip to the coast for a day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 10, 2018, 12:59:51 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 09, 2018, 02:02:19 pm
looks like I'm headed to Portland next week

ME or OR?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 10, 2018, 12:27:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 10, 2018, 12:59:51 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 09, 2018, 02:02:19 pm
looks like I'm headed to Portland next week

ME or OR?

Work related trip to OR. Tacking on an extra self day to drive to the coast.

Tentative beer related stops, time permitting:

Great Notion
Upright
Cascade
Hair of the Dog
de Garde
Pelican
maybe Laurelwood at PDX ariport if I'm hungry/thirsty after being on two planes
Apex
Beer Mongers

Any must hit places I'm missing? Any food recommendations (that may or may not also have good beer?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 13, 2018, 11:25:18 pm
Hazy little thing
Tangerine express
Puff
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on February 15, 2018, 11:30:04 am
i bought this at my local beer storre,

cascade  -  one way or another 2016 (with "marionberries")

perennial  -  sump, imperial stout

two roads  -  two juicy, dipa

troegs  -  first cut ipa, with mango

flying dog  -  alpha initiative # 1  pilot series ipa  (pretty good for flying dog)

bells  -  larrys latest   sour ale  (ok, not a super sour experience)

victory  -  blood orange ipa 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on February 15, 2018, 11:31:38 am
also got my first growler from pen druid.  something called Jupiter, a wild double ipa.  it was super cloudy and had a strange bitterness to the ipaness of it, so i thought it was good, but not their awesomeness best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 20, 2018, 11:51:30 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2018, 12:27:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 10, 2018, 12:59:51 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 09, 2018, 02:02:19 pm
looks like I'm headed to Portland next week

ME or OR?

Work related trip to OR. Tacking on an extra self day to drive to the coast.

Tentative beer related stops, time permitting:

Great Notion
Upright
Cascade
Hair of the Dog
de Garde
Pelican
maybe Laurelwood at PDX ariport if I'm hungry/thirsty after being on two planes
Apex
Beer Mongers

Any must hit places I'm missing? Any food recommendations (that may or may not also have good beer?)

Trip report:

I was in Oregon for five days, and didn't have a single West Coast IPA. Thanks Aslin, Veil, etc for completely changing my beer taste.

Great Notion-excellent beers (hazy IPA's, stouts, sours) and food, though I couldn't finish my second flight due to a full stomach

Upright-fun basement space in nondescript building, beers very good

Cascade-love, love, love their sours, Sang Noir paired with the cherry chocolate bread pudding was divine.

Hair of the Dog- only stopped in for free samples as part of the Zwicklemania Festival, can't complain about free though their malty, high abv beers are becoming less and less my thing.

de Garde- I brave driving over mountains through a snowstorm driving a tiny Hyundai Accent to get to the coast, and the beer at de Garde (and ice cream at Tillamook) almost made up for it.

Pelican-didn't make it there

maybe Laurelwood at PDX airport if I'm hungry/thirsty after being on two planes-didn't even see it

Apex-walked in and walked out, didn't like the vibe, even passed up on having a Pliny on draft

Beer Mongers-had a good Crooked Stave sour while watching the NBA three point contest

Modern Times-didn't even know it existed before going on trip. The Modem Tones Bourbon Vanilla Stout ranked as one of my all time favorite stouts. Excellent hazy IPA's a  good Berliner too. And their small all-vegan menu was a nice fuck you to all of the meat-centric brewpubs out there.

Baerlic-I was walking to Apex and Beermongers, and saw this place...decent beer, boring atmosphere
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 20, 2018, 03:16:27 pm
So I walked into Whole Foods in Portland and checked out their beer selection and noticed some Russian River sours. As soon as I load the first one into my basket, a girl worker comes out of the break room nearby and goes "Woah, that's a good one!:

Then I go to checking out and the checkout boy (actually he was about my age, so more of a checkout man) comments on the Russian River beers "Looks like they're trying to give PFriem a run for their money."

I ask "What do you mean."

He replies, "The bottles (small, caged and corked), looks like they're copying Pfriem."

I reply, "Uh yeah, or maybe vice versa."

Then the guy behind me asks, "What Russian River beers are those?

And I reply "Oh I grabbed a couple of their sours."

And he goes "When did Russian River start making sours?"

And then it was a palm to my forehead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 20, 2018, 04:22:14 pm
Are there any good Mexican beers??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 20, 2018, 04:29:24 pm
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 20, 2018, 04:22:14 pm
Are there any good Mexican beers??

Stone Xocoveza and Aslin Mexican Hot Chocolate.

It looks like there are a few actually made in Mexico. Good luck at getting any of them.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/mx/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 20, 2018, 04:30:58 pm
But I mean in the Mexican style...light summer beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 20, 2018, 04:41:58 pm
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 20, 2018, 04:30:58 pm
But I mean in the Mexican style...light summer beers

Are you specifically looking for imports, or American craft beer versions of Mexican lagers?

Try this article. I think I've seen the Oskar Blues and Flying Dog beers but never tried them.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/foodfocus/ct-mexican-beer-rise-food-0426-20170421-story.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 20, 2018, 05:10:28 pm
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 20, 2018, 04:30:58 pm
But I mean in the Mexican style...light summer beers

I love Tecate, Pacifco, Modelo, and Corona in a pinch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 20, 2018, 10:32:25 pm
Some people bring clothing in their suitcase. i brought back these:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfcSGErhHhF/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on February 21, 2018, 03:23:11 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 20, 2018, 10:32:25 pm
Some people bring clothing in their suitcase. i brought back these:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfcSGErhHhF/

Tasty! Enough sour beer to pickle your innards!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 21, 2018, 09:30:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 20, 2018, 10:32:25 pm
Some people bring clothing in their suitcase. i brought back these:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfcSGErhHhF/

You could have easily broken down the Space/Cost ratio to realize that you could've picked up those shelf turding Cascade sours at multiple places in DC. Should've double downed on De Garde and RR.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 21, 2018, 09:58:30 am
Oops!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 21, 2018, 10:02:49 am
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 21, 2018, 09:58:30 am
Oops!

Not very savvy or thrifty of Mr. Space!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 21, 2018, 10:07:52 am
There is a pretty good SNL skit there somewhere....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 10:21:27 am
Quote from: Yada on February 21, 2018, 09:30:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 20, 2018, 10:32:25 pm
Some people bring clothing in their suitcase. i brought back these:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfcSGErhHhF/

You could have easily broken down the Space/Cost ratio to realize that you could've picked up those shelf turding Cascade sours at multiple places in DC. Should've double downed on De Garde and RR.

The Cascade Apricot was purchased *after* security at the airport. $22+no tax ($20 at the Barrel House) compared to $31+tax at my local Whole Foods. So it did not detract from Russian River or de Garde purchases. I should have bought more Cascade after security.

The Sang Noir was $25+ no tax, purchased at the Barrel House, which I'm guessing is significantly cheaper than any stores in this area. And I don't see it listed on Total Wine's website. So I'm not even sure that one, which was my favorite Cascade and better than the de Garde beers I drank from the tap, is available locally. And purchased *before* I knew for sure what they were going to have at de Garde (at the time, they were just listing four varieties of their Gose, and I'll take the Sang Noir over a gose any day.)

I do wish I had gotten more of the Russian River, but at the time I came across it, it was my first beer purchase, so I was saving myself for other possibilities. Plus, I wanted to leave one of each on the shelf for the next guy. I *did* pick up *three* Supplications and *two* Consecrations, they're just not all visible. As it turns out, I might have had room for a couple more bottles at the end, but I would have had to drive back to a grocery store in Portland after driving over a mountain through a blinding snowstorm in my Hyundai Accent rental, ignoring the flashing warnings to please have chain tires on your SUV just to get to de Garde. And even if I did go back to the grocery store, it's probable that they would have been sold out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 21, 2018, 10:22:26 am
Maybe we could get Neil Young to play him!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 21, 2018, 10:23:28 am
Hey, nothing says savings like $10 to fly with it across the country! At least it didn't burst in your bag.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 21, 2018, 10:29:15 am
I wish I had lugged more records back from Argentina as a lot of priceless ones were stolen subsequently
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 10:46:59 am
Quote from: excontradiction on February 21, 2018, 10:22:26 am
Maybe we could get Neil Young to play him!

Why Neil Young?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 10:48:40 am
Quote from: Yada on February 21, 2018, 10:23:28 am
Hey, nothing says savings like $10 to fly with it across the country! At least it didn't burst in your bag.

The Apricot Ale was in my carry on, and I have no idea if the Sang Noir, which was my favorite sour of the whole trip, is available locally!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 21, 2018, 10:49:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 10:46:59 am
Quote from: excontradiction on February 21, 2018, 10:22:26 am
Maybe we could get Neil Young to play him!

Why Neil Young?

Is he not your doppelganger?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 21, 2018, 10:49:55 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 10:46:59 am
Quote from: excontradiction on February 21, 2018, 10:22:26 am
Maybe we could get Neil Young to play him!

Why Neil Young?


Cranky and eccentric?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 21, 2018, 11:00:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 10:21:27 am
I *did* pick up *three* Supplications and *two* Consecrations
those are soo good
RR really is a brewery with few equals...I miss tornado in the upper Haight :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 11:06:50 am
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 21, 2018, 10:49:55 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 10:46:59 am
Quote from: excontradiction on February 21, 2018, 10:22:26 am
Maybe we could get Neil Young to play him!

Why Neil Young?


Cranky and eccentric?

Ok, if you're going by online personality, that's fine. I'll accept that. I'm probably more boringly mainstream and mellow offline. But I don't look like Neil.

My wife actually did take a couple more pics with me *in* the picture sporting my Great Notion t-shirt. One with my face and one with face cut off. But I decided not to post those here since I know how cruel y'all can be!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 21, 2018, 11:08:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 11:06:50 am
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 21, 2018, 10:49:55 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 10:46:59 am
Quote from: excontradiction on February 21, 2018, 10:22:26 am
Maybe we could get Neil Young to play him!

Why Neil Young?


Cranky and eccentric?

Ok, if you're going by online personality, that's fine. I'll accept that. I'm probably more boringly mainstream and mellow offline. But I don't look like Neil.

My wife actually did take a couple more pics with me *in* the picture sporting my Great Notion t-shirt. One with my face and one with face cut off. But I decided not to post those here since I know how cruel y'all can be!

Considering everyone now sees the public profile of your wife's IG page, pretty easy to find your mug in the pictures! You need a ponytail brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 21, 2018, 12:19:22 pm
I dunno, man. I still see Neil Young.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 21, 2018, 01:05:44 pm
Wait what?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 21, 2018, 02:40:54 pm
I buy bottles of Cascade for $20 when I'm visiting my wife's family in Jersey... and my mother-in-law saves me the coupon mailer for another 10% off bombers.

Get on my level, Space!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 03:10:18 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on February 21, 2018, 12:19:22 pm
I dunno, man. I still see Neil Young.

Not Butch Vig?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 03:15:09 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on February 21, 2018, 02:40:54 pm
I buy bottles of Cascade for $20 when I'm visiting my wife's family in Jersey... and my mother-in-law saves me the coupon mailer for another 10% off bombers.

Get on my level, Space!

Good to know. Seems like prices vary quite a bit by state. Everything is $29-$40 in VA. I'll have to check their prices next time I'm in upstate NY, if they even ship there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 21, 2018, 03:36:16 pm
Wait cascade dishwasher detergent?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 03:42:42 pm
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 21, 2018, 03:36:16 pm
Wait cascade dishwasher detergent?

I bet for you that would taste better than Cascade beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 21, 2018, 03:44:28 pm
I think the only reasonable solution is for Hutch and Space to have a thorough, blind taste test of the beer and dishwasher liquid in question and report back to us after the ensuing hospitalization.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 21, 2018, 04:58:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 03:10:18 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on February 21, 2018, 12:19:22 pm
I dunno, man. I still see Neil Young.

Not Butch Vig?

OMG Yes! I take back all that stuff I said about Neil Young!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2018, 08:41:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 21, 2018, 10:48:40 am
Quote from: Yada on February 21, 2018, 10:23:28 am
Hey, nothing says savings like $10 to fly with it across the country! At least it didn't burst in your bag.

The Apricot Ale was in my carry on, and I have no idea if the Sang Noir, which was my favorite sour of the whole trip, is available locally!

i have seen sang noir on shelves in the DC area, occasionally.  around $40 if i remember correctly...


"sang noir" = black blood
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2018, 01:49:52 am
anthem show night pro tip....Union Stage

They have rotating Aslin, Oceloet, Victory, Avery, O'connor, Rouge and others on tap for a few dollars less than the $9 pacifico
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2018, 09:40:58 am
Quote from: Sidehatch on February 23, 2018, 01:49:52 am
anthem show night pro tip....Union Stage

They have rotating Aslin, Oceloet, Victory, Avery, O'connor, Rouge and others on tap for a few dollars less than the $9 pacifico

Do they have monitors that stream the shows direct from The Anthem?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 23, 2018, 09:53:04 am
More James Fordian money saving!!! Save $2 on a beer and miss the show you paid $75 to see!


Good stuff
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2018, 09:58:07 am
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 23, 2018, 09:53:04 am
More James Fordian money saving!!! Save $2 on a beer and miss the show you paid $75 to see!


Good stuff

haahah!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 23, 2018, 10:43:19 am
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 23, 2018, 09:53:04 am
More James Fordian money saving!!! Save $2 on a beer and miss the show you paid $75 to see!


Good stuff

James Ford would never pay $75 for a concert ticket.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2018, 10:51:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 23, 2018, 10:43:19 am
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 23, 2018, 09:53:04 am
More James Fordian money saving!!! Save $2 on a beer and miss the show you paid $75 to see!


Good stuff

James Ford would never pay $75 for a concert ticket.

**flies 3,000 miles, saves $10.34 on shelfies**
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 23, 2018, 10:59:20 am
Quote from: Yada on February 23, 2018, 10:51:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 23, 2018, 10:43:19 am
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 23, 2018, 09:53:04 am
More James Fordian money saving!!! Save $2 on a beer and miss the show you paid $75 to see!


Good stuff

James Ford would never pay $75 for a concert ticket.

**flies 3,000 miles, saves $10.34 on shelfies**

I didn't pay for the plane ticket, you did.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2018, 11:00:46 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 23, 2018, 10:59:20 am
Quote from: Yada on February 23, 2018, 10:51:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 23, 2018, 10:43:19 am
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 23, 2018, 09:53:04 am
More James Fordian money saving!!! Save $2 on a beer and miss the show you paid $75 to see!


Good stuff

James Ford would never pay $75 for a concert ticket.

**flies 3,000 miles, saves $10.34 on shelfies**

I didn't pay for the plane ticket, you did.  ;)

The cost of travel was not included in this space ounce/cost ratio post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2018, 11:39:22 am
Quote from: Yada on February 23, 2018, 09:58:07 am
Quote from: Cadet Bone Spurs on February 23, 2018, 09:53:04 am
More James Fordian money saving!!! Save $2 on a beer and miss the show you paid $75 to see!


Good stuff

haahah!!!
I no way implied that you should miss the show
But a good place for meeting and a preshow beverage
They do have pbr on tap for those super price sensitive

I do wish Seth would have a good craft beer bar on the third floor with rotating taps
Could easily charge more too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 26, 2018, 08:00:56 am
Alright.

http://amp.foodandwine.com/beer/craft-beer/25-most-important-american-craft-beers-ever-brewed
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2018, 10:24:51 am
Quote from: excontradiction on February 26, 2018, 08:00:56 am
Alright.

http://amp.foodandwine.com/beer/craft-beer/25-most-important-american-craft-beers-ever-brewed
How do you do the 25 most important craft beers of all time and not manage to put at least one of Oberon, Two-Hearted, or Founder's Breakfast Stout anywhere on the list. Baffling.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 26, 2018, 12:00:46 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on February 26, 2018, 10:24:51 am
Quote from: excontradiction on February 26, 2018, 08:00:56 am
Alright.

http://amp.foodandwine.com/beer/craft-beer/25-most-important-american-craft-beers-ever-brewed
How do you do the 25 most important craft beers of all time and not manage to put at least one of Oberon, Two-Hearted, or Founder's Breakfast Stout anywhere on the list. Baffling.

I'd agree a Bell's offering should be on there, but Oberon? LOL.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2018, 04:45:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 26, 2018, 12:00:46 pm
I'd agree a Bell's offering should be on there, but Oberon? LOL.
Regardless of whether you or I like Oberon, it is undeniably the beer that put that brewery on the map nationally, is often credited as  one of the beers that got people into craft breweries, remains their best selling product, and its annual release day is a de facto state holiday. What Bell's product is more important (which is the metric the list is using)?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2018, 04:47:55 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on February 26, 2018, 04:45:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 26, 2018, 12:00:46 pm
I'd agree a Bell's offering should be on there, but Oberon? LOL.
Regardless of whether you or I like Oberon, it is undeniably the beer that put that brewery on the map nationally, is often credited as  one of the beers that got people into craft breweries, remains their best selling product, and its annual release day is a de facto state holiday. What Bell's product is more important (which is the metric the list is using)?
Really...I can't stand Oberon and don't think it put bells on the map like Two Hearted and Hopslam
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 26, 2018, 10:14:24 pm
What sidehop said.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 27, 2018, 03:36:23 pm
fuck the bartender (they were going to help that hot chick on the bar first and you know it)

know nothing about this Chantilly brewery...but Self Serve Beer Wall!!
https://www.onobrewco.com/self-serve-beer-wall

it's like the self driving car of beer



Quote from: Yada on February 26, 2018, 10:14:24 pm
What sidehop said.
also...finally a nick name I'm not embarrassed by
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 27, 2018, 03:55:10 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on February 26, 2018, 08:00:56 am
Alright.

http://amp.foodandwine.com/beer/craft-beer/25-most-important-american-craft-beers-ever-brewed

Did Anchor really need four beers on that list?

Dale's is probably my favorite on that list.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on February 27, 2018, 03:56:23 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on February 27, 2018, 03:36:23 pm
fuck the bartender (they were going to help that hot chick on the bar first and you know it)

know nothing about this Chantilly brewery...but Self Serve Beer Wall!!
https://www.onobrewco.com/self-serve-beer-wall

it's like the self driving car of beer

Not a brewery, but there has been something similar in Denver for a few years.  http://www.firstdraftdenver.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 27, 2018, 08:02:23 pm
Quote from: vansmack on February 27, 2018, 03:55:10 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on February 26, 2018, 08:00:56 am
Alright.

http://amp.foodandwine.com/beer/craft-beer/25-most-important-american-craft-beers-ever-brewed

Did Anchor really need four beers on that list?

Dale's is probably my favorite on that list.

Good call regarding Anchor.

And someone needs to give you a Heady Topper.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 27, 2018, 08:53:37 pm
3 Stars Brewing Company
Star Dust, our DDH DIPA with a ton of Lupulin Powder, drops this Friday at 4pm. Citra, Mosaic & Simcoe make the stars align. Don’t miss it. #madeindc

i'd sign up for that...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 27, 2018, 08:58:03 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 27, 2018, 08:02:23 pm
And someone needs to give you a Heady Topper.

As long as it's my wife and not you, I'm in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2018, 03:45:42 pm
Tried to find some of that Star Dust, but only on tap at the brewery today
disto next week

I did pick up Old Ox - hop camo.  Great beer
probably my favorite by OO (not saying too much)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 02, 2018, 07:05:39 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on March 02, 2018, 03:45:42 pm
Tried to find some of that Star Dust, but only on tap at the brewery today
disto next week

Magruder's just posted that they have some...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 02, 2018, 07:14:28 pm
No reason to buy mediocre 3 Stars cans when Aslin is beyond plentiful at this point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on March 03, 2018, 06:38:04 pm
Mully's out of Prince Frederick has been killing it. Got some Hazy Too and it's delish. 

Also grabbed some Key Brewing Behind the County Club.  Really nice DIPA.  Nice to see some small MD breweries stepping up their game.

Nice to see Bluejacket in cans too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2018, 08:43:15 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch on February 23, 2018, 01:49:52 am
anthem show night pro tip....Union Stage

They have rotating Aslin, Oceloet, Victory, Avery, O'connor, Rouge and others on tap for a few dollars less than the $9 pacifico
I recind this reco
Went by tonight and there was a 100 person line at 7
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2018, 06:58:23 pm
wow wow wow... sour-heads should put a bib on before looking at this lineup:

(http://brasseriedunham.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/27908071_1651220678278919_8166213125998013504_o.jpg)

http://brasseriedunham.com/boutique/foudre-unis-11-aout-2018/ (http://brasseriedunham.com/boutique/foudre-unis-11-aout-2018/) (scroll down for english).

date = august 11.  location = southern quebec, just up from the VT border.  apparently tickets are going fast.

that lineup tho...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 08, 2018, 12:48:30 am
You know, maybe this ramble is just me, but I love sours . . . no I worship sours. But, I can't ever find myself in a situation where I say, you know I need to drive to Canada or some f*****-up location to taste or try or buy beer. I don't understand driving more than an hour from my house to buy beer. I don't understand people who go to places around this country because they know there's a brewery there or there's beer there. I just don't get it. I'm a beer snob, I love beer, I love drinking beer. But I'm not a weirdo who's going to go all over the f****** place just to find it. Again, maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 08, 2018, 12:51:02 am
Preach!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 08, 2018, 01:16:33 am
Besides that, the local beer shop that I enjoy shopping at, had a wicked weed tasting the other day and I was able to get something in a can called tropicmost which is a passion fruit Gose.  Point of this post, is to say you can really taste the difference in Wicked Weed can beer since they got purchased by Budweiser. The Taste is there. I honestly don't know if wicked weed put out beer to the public in cans, because I'm relatively new to the brewery. I instantly fell in love with them before they got purchased, and don't really care about the purchase but I do find it interesting that you can taste the signature Budweiser mark.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on March 08, 2018, 09:20:53 am
Beercations.

http://room5.trivago.com/craft-beer-travel-beercation-hotels/    (http://room5.trivago.com/craft-beer-travel-beercation-hotels/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 08, 2018, 09:24:16 am
I like a beer more than the next guy but come on!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2018, 09:24:37 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 08, 2018, 12:48:30 am
You know, maybe this ramble is just me, but I love sours . . . no I worship sours. But, I can't ever find myself in a situation where I say, you know I need to drive to Canada or some f*****-up location to taste or try or buy beer. I don't understand driving more than an hour from my house to buy beer. I don't understand people who go to places around this country because they know there's a brewery there or there's beer there. I just don't get it. I'm a beer snob, I love beer, I love drinking beer. But I'm not a weirdo who's going to go all over the f****** place just to find it. Again, maybe that's just me.

True, but most of the best beer places are also nice places to visit. Portland (both of them), San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Asheville, Vermont, etc...all nice places to visit. Even Jester King is located near the one Texas city you'd actually want to go to.  Having said that, I don't think I'll ever have reason to visit Toppling Goliath.

edit: Colorado needs to get a mention in this reply.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 08, 2018, 10:58:31 am
all true. I thought I was going to hate Vermont until I got there.  Burlington, in particular, is a great little town.

I'd do more beer traveling if my wife wasn't slightly allergic to beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2018, 06:02:26 pm
(https://resource.alaskaair.net/-/media/Images/pages/deals/special-offers/WineFliesFree_940x334_MAP_R1.ashx?h=334&la=en&w=940&v=1&hash=DDAAE8BB097F9362172E62C495FDFBFCFF13255B&hash=DDAAE8BB097F9362172E62C495FDFBFCFF13255B)

Check a case of wine for free when Alaska Miles Members fly from 29 West Coast cities.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2018, 07:14:27 pm
now there is a business model waiting to be tapped (and good pun)

What if you created a loyalty program that is vendor neutral, but when you get to the airport there is a small case that you could fit bombers, cans and bottles in with all the padding you'd need to mix and match

then they would make a deal with the airlines to only have to pay $5 a case (or free for VIP members)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2018, 07:50:19 pm
What if they sold good beer and wine at only a 10% markup *after* security, like they do at PDX?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2018, 07:53:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 07, 2018, 06:58:23 pm
wow wow wow... sour-heads should put a bib on before looking at this lineup:

(http://brasseriedunham.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/27908071_1651220678278919_8166213125998013504_o.jpg)

http://brasseriedunham.com/boutique/foudre-unis-11-aout-2018/ (http://brasseriedunham.com/boutique/foudre-unis-11-aout-2018/) (scroll down for english).

date = august 11.  location = southern quebec, just up from the VT border.  apparently tickets are going fast.

that lineup tho...

Did I tell you guys I'm going to Canada for vacation? I'll be in Jasper that day. Would have been my friend's 49th birthday.  :'(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2018, 10:02:25 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 08, 2018, 07:14:27 pm
now there is a business model waiting to be tapped (and good pun)

Just so you know, they've never opened up my case to confirm it was wine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 09, 2018, 02:43:41 pm
Now that Space has a smartphone, I look forward to seeing more selfies of him on IG. Here is just the other night in the Black Cat bathroom.

(https://image.ibb.co/ja4HXn/space.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 09, 2018, 03:09:19 pm
Wow he looks a lot better there....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 09, 2018, 04:29:24 pm
could have gone in the movie thread I guess.

was an odd product placement in 3 billboards

as I don't really believe that...
 the misfit cop who lives with his mother in a beat up old house in ebbing Missouri...
both be drinking Napoleon Complex by Wicked Weed?

did Budweiser pay for that?

funny because it would make a lot more sense if they were drinking bud
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 09, 2018, 05:59:16 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 09, 2018, 04:29:24 pm
could have gone in the movie thread I guess.

was an odd product placement in 3 billboards

as I don't really believe that...
 the misfit cop who lives with his mother in a beat up old house in ebbing Missouri...
both be drinking Napoleon Complex by Wicked Weed?

did Budweiser pay for that?

funny because it would make a lot more sense if they were drinking bud

Interesting. Watched the movie last night and totally missed that. Does Wicked Weed even distribute to rural Missouri? Or was Dixon a beer trader?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on March 09, 2018, 06:25:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 09, 2018, 05:59:16 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 09, 2018, 04:29:24 pm
could have gone in the movie thread I guess.

was an odd product placement in 3 billboards

as I don't really believe that...
 the misfit cop who lives with his mother in a beat up old house in ebbing Missouri...
both be drinking Napoleon Complex by Wicked Weed?

did Budweiser pay for that?

funny because it would make a lot more sense if they were drinking bud

Interesting. Watched the movie last night and totally missed that. Does Wicked Weed even distribute to rural Missouri? Or was Dixon a beer trader?

Filmed in Western North Carolina.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 09, 2018, 07:04:12 pm
Quote from: ggw on March 09, 2018, 06:25:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 09, 2018, 05:59:16 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 09, 2018, 04:29:24 pm
could have gone in the movie thread I guess.

was an odd product placement in 3 billboards

as I don't really believe that...
 the misfit cop who lives with his mother in a beat up old house in ebbing Missouri...
both be drinking Napoleon Complex by Wicked Weed?

did Budweiser pay for that?

funny because it would make a lot more sense if they were drinking bud

Interesting. Watched the movie last night and totally missed that. Does Wicked Weed even distribute to rural Missouri? Or was Dixon a beer trader?

Filmed in Western North Carolina.

Thanks. Wow, I've never been to Missouri and I wondered where in Missouri they have mountains like that. Googling, I guess they do, but the mountains somehow looked familiar to me and now I know why.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 12, 2018, 09:35:08 am
I was at Wicked Weed for a hot second on Friday night. That place was jumping.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 12, 2018, 09:59:07 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 12, 2018, 09:35:08 am
I was at Wicked Weed for a hot second on Friday night. That place was jumping.

The main place, or the good place?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 12, 2018, 10:29:33 am
Jules,

Could you have one of your assistants get in line for the Veil release tomorrow? Let me know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 12, 2018, 11:12:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 12, 2018, 09:59:07 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 12, 2018, 09:35:08 am
I was at Wicked Weed for a hot second on Friday night. That place was jumping.

The main place, or the good place?
Whichever one of those is next to the Orange Peel in Asheville.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 12, 2018, 11:22:03 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 12, 2018, 11:12:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 12, 2018, 09:59:07 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 12, 2018, 09:35:08 am
I was at Wicked Weed for a hot second on Friday night. That place was jumping.

The main place, or the good place?
Whichever one of those is next to the Orange Peel in Asheville.

I had to google map that...it's the main one. The basement is the place to go at that location. More interesting beer selection. The upper level is for tourists only, and from what I could tell didn't offer the same drafts as they have in the basement. The other (better, imo) place 0.4 miles way is the Funkatorium, which focuses on sour beers and is much more chill.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2018, 07:59:55 pm
onsale for savor (june 1 & 2) tickets is march 21. 

presale = march 20, i've got a code thanks to my AHA membership.  PM me if you want it.

new this year: no salons. "Based on attendee feedback and in an effort to provide more time for attendees to enjoy the numerous pairings offered, SAVOR salons will no longer be offered. Instead the rooms formerly used for salon presentations will offer a loungey vibe with additional (& much needed) seating, live music and areas for media interviews. And possibly other offerings. Stay tuned!"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on March 14, 2018, 09:37:48 am
Aslin announced this morning (semi-privately in a beer trader forum) that Herndon has decided to not permit further expansion for the brewery beyond its current production space and taproom.  The brewers indicated they would be opening a new production space outside of Herndon.  While no new location was announced, rumors are swirling that it will be in Alexandria.  I believe the taproom will still open as planned.  No word on if the Herndon production space will remain. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 14, 2018, 11:14:58 am
I hope the new production facility in Alexandria will fill growlers and possibly have a bar

last I heard they were still hoping to open the tap room Q2 2018...which is only a few weeks away
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 14, 2018, 12:50:07 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 14, 2018, 11:14:58 am
I hope the new production facility in Alexandria will fill growlers and possibly have a bar

last I heard they were still hoping to open the tap room Q2 2018...which is only a few weeks away

What is the appeal of growler fills if cans are available?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 01:09:45 pm
early signs that craft beer will soon jump the shark: glitter beer (https://www.facebook.com/BuzzFeed/videos/10157533540645329/).  here's more (https://www.geek.com/culture/glitter-beer-brings-a-sparkly-new-look-to-your-favorite-brew-1733597/). 

yes, this is actually a thing now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 14, 2018, 01:27:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 01:09:45 pm
early signs that craft beer will soon jump the shark: glitter beer (https://www.facebook.com/BuzzFeed/videos/10157533540645329/).  here's more (https://www.geek.com/culture/glitter-beer-brings-a-sparkly-new-look-to-your-favorite-brew-1733597/). 

yes, this is actually a thing now.
Walkie just died of homoerotic alcohol poisoning.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2018, 01:31:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 01:09:45 pm
early signs that craft beer will soon jump the shark: glitter beer (https://www.facebook.com/BuzzFeed/videos/10157533540645329/).  here's more (https://www.geek.com/culture/glitter-beer-brings-a-sparkly-new-look-to-your-favorite-brew-1733597/). 
yes, this is actually a thing now.

Soon?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 14, 2018, 02:06:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 01:09:45 pm
early signs that craft beer will soon jump the shark: glitter beer (https://www.facebook.com/BuzzFeed/videos/10157533540645329/).  here's more (https://www.geek.com/culture/glitter-beer-brings-a-sparkly-new-look-to-your-favorite-brew-1733597/). 

yes, this is actually a thing now.

Finally, a way to get my 10 year old to drink a hoppy IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 14, 2018, 02:21:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2018, 12:50:07 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 14, 2018, 11:14:58 am
I hope the new production facility in Alexandria will fill growlers and possibly have a bar

last I heard they were still hoping to open the tap room Q2 2018...which is only a few weeks away

What is the appeal of growler fills if cans are available?

The space/ounce ratio typically benefits the growler buyer based on previous data calculated.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 04:10:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 14, 2018, 02:21:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2018, 12:50:07 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 14, 2018, 11:14:58 am
I hope the new production facility in Alexandria will fill growlers and possibly have a bar

last I heard they were still hoping to open the tap room Q2 2018...which is only a few weeks away

What is the appeal of growler fills if cans are available?

The space/ounce ratio typically benefits the growler buyer based on previous data calculated.

although difficult to include into that calculation, one must also take quality and lifespan into account.  in general, cans will be better than growlers (less oxygen) and will last (taste fresh) longer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 14, 2018, 04:16:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 04:10:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 14, 2018, 02:21:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2018, 12:50:07 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 14, 2018, 11:14:58 am
I hope the new production facility in Alexandria will fill growlers and possibly have a bar

last I heard they were still hoping to open the tap room Q2 2018...which is only a few weeks away

What is the appeal of growler fills if cans are available?

The space/ounce ratio typically benefits the growler buyer based on previous data calculated.

although difficult to include into that calculation, one must also take quality and lifespan into account.  in general, cans will be better than growlers (less oxygen) and will last (taste fresh) longer.

When it comes down to $$$ and ¢¢¢¢, nothing else matters in the space/ounce ratio equation. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 14, 2018, 04:23:36 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 14, 2018, 04:16:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 04:10:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 14, 2018, 02:21:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2018, 12:50:07 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 14, 2018, 11:14:58 am
I hope the new production facility in Alexandria will fill growlers and possibly have a bar

last I heard they were still hoping to open the tap room Q2 2018...which is only a few weeks away

What is the appeal of growler fills if cans are available?

The space/ounce ratio typically benefits the growler buyer based on previous data calculated.

although difficult to include into that calculation, one must also take quality and lifespan into account.  in general, cans will be better than growlers (less oxygen) and will last (taste fresh) longer.

When it comes down to $$$ and ¢¢¢¢, nothing else matters in the space/ounce ratio equation.
I'm using this opportunity to petition him to change his username to $pa¢e Freely.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 14, 2018, 04:44:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 14, 2018, 04:16:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 04:10:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 14, 2018, 02:21:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 14, 2018, 12:50:07 pm
Quote from: realDavidDennison on March 14, 2018, 11:14:58 am
I hope the new production facility in Alexandria will fill growlers and possibly have a bar

last I heard they were still hoping to open the tap room Q2 2018...which is only a few weeks away

What is the appeal of growler fills if cans are available?

The space/ounce ratio typically benefits the growler buyer based on previous data calculated.

although difficult to include into that calculation, one must also take quality and lifespan into account.  in general, cans will be better than growlers (less oxygen) and will last (taste fresh) longer.

When it comes down to $$$ and ¢¢¢¢, nothing else matters in the space/ounce ratio equation.

The main question for me is which is cheaper, the 16 ounce can, or the growler fill? Because to me, 16 ounces is the perfect size for two people to split. Anything more is unnecessary and often unwanted.

Did I tell you I'm going to the beach for Spring Break and I weigh more than I ever have?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 04:47:15 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 14, 2018, 04:23:36 pm
I'm using this opportunity to petition him to change his username to $pa¢e Freely.

it's been while since i've had the opportunity to use this in the proper context, so here goes:

co-signed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on March 14, 2018, 07:02:41 pm
Aslin still plans to open the new taproom in Herndon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 14, 2018, 07:27:27 pm
Herndon??? Might as well be in West Virginia
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 14, 2018, 09:48:01 pm
Quote from: medeski7 on March 14, 2018, 07:02:41 pm
Aslin still plans to open the new taproom in Herndon.
yes, but I guess they really wanted to ramp up production (which they should) but can't expand the place they are already setting up
Although I know very little details, but I do know Herndon is slated to open Q2-2018 straight from the brewers mouth

Quote from: hutch on March 14, 2018, 07:27:27 pm
Herndon??? Might as well be in West Virginia

I kinda agree
It is closer than the Fillmore to you, but it's almost never 'on the way' to somewhere else

its right off the bike trail, so I'll be riding by often, unlike Ocelot which is nearly impossible to get to by bike
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 16, 2018, 10:24:25 am
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/03/bracket-madness-best-craft-beer-brewery-united-states-vote
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 16, 2018, 10:55:53 am
nice to see some local representation with the VeiL (#1 seed in SE region), Aslin and the Answer

hadn't even heard of Goonda Beersmiths out of Baltimore?
will have to check them out


in other beer news...VA trying to lure MD breweries across the border
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29216970_1858855954137986_7615034486765387776_n.jpg?oh=f83849ec58d5a5e5bdbf3f966646981b&oe=5B4B5BB0)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 16, 2018, 11:26:34 am
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on March 16, 2018, 10:55:53 am
nice to see some local representation with the VeiL (#1 seed in SE region), Aslin and the Answer

hadn't even heard of Goonda Beersmiths out of Baltimore?
will have to check them out


in other beer news...VA trying to lure MD breweries across the border
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29216970_1858855954137986_7615034486765387776_n.jpg?oh=f83849ec58d5a5e5bdbf3f966646981b&oe=5B4B5BB0)

I've had one Goonda beer at Meridian Pint and it was quite good... hazy bro, like the rest of them, but quite good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 21, 2018, 10:50:01 am
Can anyone confirm if $pace is a "non essential" employee?

If so, $pace, what are you drinkin' and pairing today?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 21, 2018, 11:07:30 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 04:47:15 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 14, 2018, 04:23:36 pm
I'm using this opportunity to petition him to change his username to $pa¢e Freely.

it's been while since i've had the opportunity to use this in the proper context, so here goes:

¢o-$igned.
FTFY
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 21, 2018, 12:52:25 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 21, 2018, 11:07:30 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 14, 2018, 04:47:15 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 14, 2018, 04:23:36 pm
I'm using this opportunity to petition him to change his username to $pa¢e Freely.

it's been while since i've had the opportunity to use this in the proper context, so here goes:

¢o-$igned.
FTFY

thank$
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 23, 2018, 04:21:54 pm
Hey Yada-

Did you notice the Victory Cherry Gose in cans this year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 24, 2018, 12:57:57 pm
GREEN FLASH BREWING PUTS VIRGINIA BREWERY UP FOR AUCTION

https://thefullpint.com/beer-news/green-flash-brewing-puts-virginia-brewery-up-for-auction/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 24, 2018, 01:36:12 pm
IMP Brewey
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 26, 2018, 06:04:20 pm
Quote from: Bagley on March 23, 2018, 04:21:54 pm
Hey Yada-

Did you notice the Victory Cherry Gose in cans this year?

I did not know this, but I look forward to drinking many! Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 02, 2018, 11:49:34 am
these are the tasty beers, that i have had recently . . . meaning in the past, two months.

Deschutes  red chair nwpa

Ballast Point  sour wench

Perennial  Sump

Troegs  First Cut

Stone   Enjoy by 4/20, on tap growler

Wicked Weed  La Bonte

Wicked Weed  Ferme de Chien

Cascade  2015  Manhattan NW

Clown Shoes  Galactica DIPA

3 Stars Sonic Hummingbird  dry hopped DIPA

now a question . . . I have a Firestone 2018 Sucaba.  I have never had it before.  Do I, drink it now, or store it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 02, 2018, 11:54:59 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 02, 2018, 11:49:34 am


now a question . . . I have a Firestone 2018 Sucaba.  I have never had it before.  Do I, drink it now, or store it?

You stop buying Firestone as it's overpriced, mediocre, and they make donations to Drumpf.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2018, 01:47:29 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 02, 2018, 11:49:34 am
Stone   Enjoy by 4/20, on tap growler
Found this in Cans last week and seems like a pretty good deal on the Space beer oz-to-$ ratio (compared to buying bombers)

although, wasn't really that impressed
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 02, 2018, 01:54:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2018, 11:54:59 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 02, 2018, 11:49:34 am


now a question . . . I have a Firestone 2018 Sucaba.  I have never had it before.  Do I, drink it now, or store it?

You stop buying Firestone as it's overpriced, mediocre, and they make donations to Drumpf.

I, don't care that they donate to Trump or do whatever they want to with their money, because it's their money, but if the beer isn't any good then well then there's that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2018, 02:02:56 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 02, 2018, 01:54:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2018, 11:54:59 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 02, 2018, 11:49:34 am


now a question . . . I have a Firestone 2018 Sucaba.  I have never had it before.  Do I, drink it now, or store it?

You stop buying Firestone as it's overpriced, mediocre, and they make donations to Drumpf.

I, don't care that they donate to Trump or do whatever they want to with their money, because it's their money, but if the beer isn't any good then well then there's that.
Gotta agree with Walky on this one...

Does this mean I need to stop drinking Stoli and watching RT?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2018, 03:26:24 pm
I hit six breweries in Florida and four in South Carolina on our Spring Break road trip. When I get caught up on other things, I'll tell y'all about it.

So embarrassing to drive up 95 and hit a big Confederate flag proudly waving in VA followed by that horrible cigarette. At least there was an "End the NRA" billboard a couple miles later.

And in case anyone is looking for a place to retire:

https://www.retiretowhiteville.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2018, 03:51:21 pm
Walkie is inconsistent as he railed against chick fil a and my eating there...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2018, 04:57:09 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 02, 2018, 11:49:34 am
now a question . . . I have a Firestone 2018 Sucaba.  I have never had it before.  Do I, drink it now, or store it?

they taste really good fresh (bourbon more up-front, a little more alcohol heat), and taste really really good with some age (bourbon fades a bit, becomes a little sweeter, more dark fruit notes).  so depends what you prefer, how patient you are, how many you have on hand, etc.  the ideal-yet-corny answer is "both" - drink one now, and age some too.

i distinctly remember a few years back, when we used to have boardee bottle share parties, brennser brought two sucabas that were 5+ years old and they melted my face.  when i moved, i cleared out my beer collection by 90% cause i didn't want to move that many bottles.  sucaba was one of the few left standing, along with cantillon, 3F, and a few others.
 
Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2018, 11:54:59 am
You stop buying Firestone as it's overpriced, mediocre, and they make donations to Drumpf.

FW is damn expensive, but they are one of the brands that will get me to pay that price.  i've tried plenty of barrel-aged beers and FW remains the standard-bearer for me.  FW's BBA'ed beers are one of the few "classics" that i haven't grown tired of.  also, that consistency. 

yada, what are you go-to BBA'ed beers?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2018, 05:07:16 pm
this weekend i found a bomber of KBS for $17 at costco.  i got a bunch of more interesting bottles but decided to grab one KBS just to see what's it's like these days - haven't had it in a few years.  i full expect to be a tad disappointed and will kick myself for not having grabbed another more interesting beer like the Freakcake with brett (https://www.cruxfermentation.com/beer/banished-freakcake/)...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7tz34XZdNN7O0Nv32 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/7tz34XZdNN7O0Nv32) (too lazy to re-post then embed...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2018, 05:11:46 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2018, 04:57:09 pm
i distinctly remember a few years back, when we used to have boardee bottle share parties,
man...wish those would come back...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 08:21:41 am
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 02, 2018, 05:11:46 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2018, 04:57:09 pm
i distinctly remember a few years back, when we used to have boardee bottle share parties,
man...wish those would come back...

I'm always game. Though my liver and head disagree.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 08:25:53 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2018, 05:07:16 pm
this weekend i found a bomber of KBS for $17 at costco.  i got a bunch of more interesting bottles but decided to grab one KBS just to see what's it's like these days - haven't had it in a few years.  i full expect to be a tad disappointed and will kick myself for not having grabbed another more interesting beer like the Freakcake with brett (https://www.cruxfermentation.com/beer/banished-freakcake/)...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7tz34XZdNN7O0Nv32 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/7tz34XZdNN7O0Nv32) (too lazy to re-post then embed...)

I was in Charleston, where Total Wine had four packs for $23 with no limit. So I picked up three for me and one for my brother. Turns out he didn't want any, but picked up two packs for me, which he will just keep since I don't need them. So now we'll both have 12 bottles. Combine that with a bunch I have leftover from last year....and we have too much KBS.

I still enjoy it, even more so than CBS (which I saw on the shelf in Miami for $24/bottle and left it there.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 03, 2018, 01:21:15 pm
bye bye green flash

https://thefullpint.com/beer-news/green-flash-brewing-inc-foreclosed-sells-green-flash-and-alpine-assets/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 02:02:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 16, 2009, 10:22:30 am
sleeman's cream ale... damn i miss the stuff.

(http://www.gallibeer.com/images/cream-botCan.jpg)

Maybe they have it out in Seattle?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 02:02:45 pm
Quote from: lagas on October 16, 2009, 10:33:13 am
Kunstmann beer of Chile is one of the best...unfortunately, I don't think you can get it in the US

(http://www.terra.cl/turanking/fotos/listas/preguntas/Kunstmann_Bock.gif)

I wonder if it's still one of the best?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 03, 2018, 02:22:34 pm
slo news day... feel the need to reply to 10 yr old posts?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 02:57:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 20, 2009, 01:57:16 pm
dogfish head pumpkin ale is absolutely delicious, if you don't mind a little sweet in your beer.  i've generally been impressed with 21st Ammendment's offerings, although i haven't tasted "back in black".

Remember when we were all big pumpkin beer fans?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 02:58:38 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 20, 2009, 02:22:52 pm
This is the best pumpkin beer I've had. Better than Dogfish. This is definitely more pumpkin-y than Dogfish Punkin, whose pumpkin flavor to me is more subtle. I had a sample at my local Whole Foods, but they said they're out and may not get more. Anybody seen it anywhere in the NoVA burbs or DC?

(http://www.fermentnation.com/pics/southerntier_pumking.jpg)

This guy was into pumpkin beers too. Don't let him pretend he wasn't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 02:59:13 pm
Quote from: Ardamus on October 17, 2009, 05:51:14 pm
Anyone like Peroni?

(http://www.steezology.com/images/peroni.jpg)

Shock Top?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/SR0Db_h6gCI/AAAAAAAADEo/2e01CC3Y7do/s400/Shock+Top+5.JPG)

Or if you're broke....PBR?

(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Linkman81/PabstBlueRibbon.png)

Shock Top, now we're talking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 03, 2018, 03:14:52 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 02:02:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 16, 2009, 10:22:30 am
sleeman's cream ale... damn i miss the stuff.

(http://www.gallibeer.com/images/cream-botCan.jpg)

Maybe they have it out in Seattle?

not that i've seen.  it's source, ontario, is farther away so not too surprising. 

i have it often when i visit home, because my mom keeps buying it - even tho i'm over it.  i like to have one, to remind me of simpler times (i.e. a bit more flavor that BMC held my attention back then) but i typically leave with 5 of the 6 bottles untouched.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 03:46:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 03, 2018, 03:14:52 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 03, 2018, 02:02:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 16, 2009, 10:22:30 am
sleeman's cream ale... damn i miss the stuff.

(http://www.gallibeer.com/images/cream-botCan.jpg)

Maybe they have it out in Seattle?

not that i've seen.  it's source, ontario, is farther away so not too surprising. 

i have it often when i visit home, because my mom keeps buying it - even tho i'm over it.  i like to have one, to remind me of simpler times (i.e. a bit more flavor that BMC held my attention back then) but i typically leave with 5 of the 6 bottles untouched.

I've actually had it.

I once held a bring your own fancy party and a friend brought her parents, from Toronto. Her stepdad, who was wearing a kilt, brought a bunch of cans of it, proudly and loudly proclaiming how amazing it was. It wasn't, but I played along. True story.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 04, 2018, 04:51:42 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 02, 2018, 03:51:21 pm
Walkie is inconsistent as he railed against chick fil a and my eating there...

truth... and if there weren't 100's of beers better than FW, I could understand... but there are too many offerings better to line their pockets.

Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2018, 04:57:09 pm


yada, what are you go-to BBA'ed beers?

In my old age, I'm falling into a Space-esque few ounce pour when drinking BBA'ed stouts. I've also recently started to clear my cellar of them.

I don't even think I have a go to at this point, but have had many delicious ones over the past year. Cycle, Fieldwork, Trillium, Veil, and Central Waters stick out in my head as some of the best I've had, even KBS and Bourbon County are better. I find the trail blazer Parabola thin and watery compared to the ones mentioned above. Additionally, I probably shouldn't comment on Barleywine as I don't even like it.

I also loved CBS, my guess is Space didn't like it because of the space ratio vs. the actual taste.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2018, 04:55:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2018, 04:51:42 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 02, 2018, 03:51:21 pm
Walkie is inconsistent as he railed against chick fil a and my eating there...

truth... and if there weren't 100's of beers better than FW, I could understand... but there are too many offerings better to line their pockets.

Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2018, 04:57:09 pm


yada, what are you go-to BBA'ed beers?

In my old age, I'm falling into a Space-esque few ounce pour when drinking BBA'ed stouts. I've also recently started to clear my cellar of them.

I don't even think I have a go to at this point, but have had many delicious ones over the past year. Cycle, Fieldwork, Trillium, Veil, and Central Waters stick out in my head as some of the best I've had, even KBS and Bourbon County are better. I find the trail blazer Parabola thin and watery compared to the ones mentioned above. Additionally, I probably shouldn't comment on Barleywine as I don't even like it.

I also loved CBS, my guess is Space didn't like it because of the space ratio vs. the actual taste.

My complaint about CBS is the same as my wife's...it's way too sweet. I blame the maple.

I had a phenomenal BA Stout when I was at J Westfield called "Mount Stoutmore." Even my stout hating wife loved it. Which reminds me, I need to do a write up at that trip for the two or three people on this board and the two or three people off this board who might care.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 04, 2018, 07:11:27 pm
Make that four.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2018, 03:02:22 pm
BTW...KBS is everywhere and seems to lost it's ability to disappear in minutes
(https://i.imgur.com/CIY7BrP.jpg)
(that's for a 4 pack)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 05, 2018, 03:15:39 pm
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 05, 2018, 03:02:22 pm
BTW...KBS is everywhere and seems to lost it's ability to disappear in minutes
(https://i.imgur.com/CIY7BrP.jpg)
(that's for a 4 pack)

Maybe they are making more of it? It was $22.99 with no limit in Charleston SC Friday. Price and quality is still very Space approved. Though honestly I'm more excited by the cans I picked up at Charles Town Fermentory.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 05, 2018, 06:48:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 04, 2018, 04:51:42 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 02, 2018, 03:51:21 pm
Walkie is inconsistent as he railed against chick fil a and my eating there...

truth... and if there weren't 100's of beers better than FW, I could understand... but there are too many offerings better to line their pockets.

Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2018, 04:57:09 pm


yada, what are you go-to BBA'ed beers?

In my old age, I'm falling into a Space-esque few ounce pour when drinking BBA'ed stouts. I've also recently started to clear my cellar of them.

I don't even think I have a go to at this point, but have had many delicious ones over the past year. Cycle, Fieldwork, Trillium, Veil, and Central Waters stick out in my head as some of the best I've had, even KBS and Bourbon County are better. I find the trail blazer Parabola thin and watery compared to the ones mentioned above. Additionally, I probably shouldn't comment on Barleywine as I don't even like it.

I also loved CBS, my guess is Space didn't like it because of the space ratio vs. the actual taste.

For a long, time ago, in a beer store far far away, I enjoyed firestone walker and their brewed line ups.  i heard they got bought out at some point, but i don't follow the behind the scene activities of what companies do in their free time . . . or their paid time . . . I only care about what goes in my mouth and how it excites me in the process.  how, gay i know, but isn't that the point.  how it tastes?  I have not had a FW in a while, so I gave that beer a chance and it is my fridge now about to be swallowed long and nicely for about 45 minutes, this evening.  If it, sucks, pardon the pun, I will never buy it again.

The, end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 05, 2018, 06:53:23 pm
plus, i love the fact that quite a few of the mighty old timer beer, that once ruled the minds of people standing in line for it, are now everywhere.  Some now suck compared to the way it was, and some retain their original character . . . like founders backwoods bastard.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 06, 2018, 06:02:55 pm
By the way, that Firestone Walker 2018 Sucaba, was incredible. You do have to drink it slow and savor it like you're drinking a fine glass of wine. All in all, I give it a thumbs up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2018, 09:15:03 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 06, 2018, 06:02:55 pm
that Firestone Walker 2018 Sucaba,
gave that a long stare down at the bottle shop tonight, pick it up next time

but my find was Loudoun Co's Solace's Ghillie Ghillie
a quite scrumptious red IPA

also they are almost begging you to take the KBS
staff said there was some issues with WVA's shipment of KBS and there was a state law the forbid the sale of that high of alcohol
so that is why the DMV has more than usual

one thing I found annoying
big bottle vs 4 pack

Was only $1 for the 4 Pack...but you get almost another bomber oz wise for that dollar
craft beer pricing really annoys the heck out of me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 11, 2018, 03:31:37 pm
some interesting events at Rustico Ballston next week

Monday
Alexandria: The Aslin Beer Dinner
https://www.facebook.com/events/1696115810446477/
we’ll offer five exceptional beers from Aslin alongside a specially designed menu by Chef de Cuisine Aaron Wright. Don’t miss this opportunity to try some deliciously rare treats like Pisghetti Western, Awkwardly Sweet and Master of Karate!

As an added bonus, the team from Aslin will be in the house, sharing stories behind their excellent brewery and outstanding beers.

The Aslin beer dinner begins at 7 PM. Tickets are $60 per person,


Wednesday
The Founders Breakfast Stout Bash: CBS, KBS + More!
https://www.facebook.com/events/192272274835604/
THE OFFICIAL FOUNDERS BREAKFAST STOUT BASH DRAFT LIST
- KBS 2017 (Bourbon BA Imperial Stout w/ Coffee & Chocolate; Draft)
- CBS 2017 (Maple-Bourbon BA Imperial Stout w/ Coffee & Chocolate; Draft)
- Breakfast Stout (Imperial Stout w/ Coffee & Chocolate; Draft)
- Backwoods Bastard 2017 (Bourbon BA Scotch Ale; Draft)
- Doom (Bourbon BA Imperial IPA; Draft)
- Lizard of Koz (Bourbon BA Imperial Stout w/ Blueberry, Chocolate & Vanilla; BTL Pour)
- Frootwood (Bourbon-Maple BA Fruit Beer w/ Cherries; BTL Pour)
- DKML (Bourbon BA Strong Ale w/ Corn; Draft)
- Fuzzy Sweater (IPA w/ Cashmere Hops; Draft)
- Nitro Rubaeus (Fruit Beer w/ Raspberry; Draft)
- All Day (Session IPA; Draft)
- Solid Gold (Premium Lager; Draft)


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 11, 2018, 03:45:36 pm
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 11, 2018, 03:31:37 pm
some interesting events at Rustico Ballston next week



Wednesday
The Founders Breakfast Stout Bash: CBS, KBS + More!
https://www.facebook.com/events/192272274835604/
THE OFFICIAL FOUNDERS BREAKFAST STOUT BASH DRAFT LIST

- Doom (Bourbon BA Imperial IPA; Draft)



The Doom's awesome!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 11, 2018, 05:50:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 15, 2009, 12:26:07 pm
There must be a few people here who drink something a cut above PBR, no?

What beers are you currently enjoying?

I'm really digging this:
(http://legalbeer.com/images/founders%20breakfast%20stout.jpg)

And after a stop at their brewery in Cooperstown, NY, i'm enjoying the mix pack from Ommegang. Especially love the Ommegang Ale.

(https://secure5.worldaxxs.net/ssl.ommegang.com/graphics/graphics/00000005/ultimix.jpg)





I've been gravitating to session ales, here in my older days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Unsanity on April 12, 2018, 05:25:39 am
I tried a bomber of KBS. My total Wine had plenty of it. I think they rang up the price wrong too and I got it cheaper than whatever the sign said. I liked it just fine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2018, 08:26:48 am
Quote from: excontradiction on April 11, 2018, 05:50:12 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 15, 2009, 12:26:07 pm
There must be a few people here who drink something a cut above PBR, no?

What beers are you currently enjoying?

I'm really digging this:
(http://legalbeer.com/images/founders%20breakfast%20stout.jpg)

And after a stop at their brewery in Cooperstown, NY, i'm enjoying the mix pack from Ommegang. Especially love the Ommegang Ale.

(https://secure5.worldaxxs.net/ssl.ommegang.com/graphics/graphics/00000005/ultimix.jpg)





I've been gravitating to session ales, here in my older days.

I split a 15% 16 oz can of Aslin Bale, their recent peanut butter stout, with my wife last night. Founders Breakfast Stout *is* a session ale!

It was good, for a pb stout. Incredibly smooth, couldn't taste the alcohol at all. The pb leaves a weird aftertaste so I don't think i'll be purchasing that one on the regular.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2018, 09:20:01 am
In more Aslin news

Aslin Beer Company Bringing a Beer Garden to Navy Yard (https://www.popville.com/2018/03/aslin-beer-company-bringing-a-beer-garden-to-navy-yard)

“We are excited to announce that starting on April 5th we will be hosting @AslinBeerGarden for every Washington Nationals home game this season. Aslin Beer Garden will be at the corner of 1st and N ST SE (1299 1st ST SE) and hours for each game will be posted each day, but generally it will be two hours prior to the game and two hours after the game. Come join us for a few beers throughout the summer!

annnnd tap take over on 4/20 at Union Stage at the Wharf!
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/29872000_1367108296722707_8585137498516164254_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a20bad356edd2ec653734743536fd8f8&oe=5B2775B6)

not sure what free AF is?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 12, 2018, 10:12:47 am
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 12, 2018, 09:20:01 am
not sure what free AF is?
Its indicating it's not just free, but it's (as the kids would say) free as fuck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 12, 2018, 10:17:47 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 12, 2018, 10:12:47 am
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 12, 2018, 09:20:01 am
not sure what free AF is?
Its indicating it's not just free, but it's (as the kids would say) free as fuck.

AF may be one of the most annoying acronyms to surface in recent months.

Also, rumor has it Space has year's worth of Doom stocked up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 12, 2018, 11:02:09 am
Quote from: Yada on April 12, 2018, 10:17:47 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 12, 2018, 10:12:47 am
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 12, 2018, 09:20:01 am
not sure what free AF is?
Its indicating it's not just free, but it's (as the kids would say) free as fuck.

AF may be one of the most annoying acronyms to surface in recent months.

Also, rumor has it Space has year's worth of Doom stocked up.
I always VISIT DOOMLINK for my Doom needs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 12, 2018, 12:32:55 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 12, 2018, 11:02:09 am
Quote from: Yada on April 12, 2018, 10:17:47 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 12, 2018, 10:12:47 am
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 12, 2018, 09:20:01 am
not sure what free AF is?
Its indicating it's not just free, but it's (as the kids would say) free as fuck.

AF may be one of the most annoying acronyms to surface in recent months.

Also, rumor has it Space has year's worth of Doom stocked up.
I always VISIT DOOMLINK for my Doom needs.

i fear that many here can't appreciate how awesome a reply that was.  POTM.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2018, 01:50:17 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 12, 2018, 10:17:47 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 12, 2018, 10:12:47 am
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 12, 2018, 09:20:01 am
not sure what free AF is?
Its indicating it's not just free, but it's (as the kids would say) free as fuck.

AF may be one of the most annoying acronyms to surface in recent months.

Also, rumor has it Space has year's worth of Doom stocked up.

You couldn't be more wrong. That may have been the only beer my wife ever had her own supply of because I refused to drink it. Blech.

Though to her credit she has evolved and doesn't drink it anymore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2018, 01:51:47 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 12, 2018, 11:02:09 am
Quote from: Yada on April 12, 2018, 10:17:47 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 12, 2018, 10:12:47 am
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 12, 2018, 09:20:01 am
not sure what free AF is?
Its indicating it's not just free, but it's (as the kids would say) free as fuck.

AF may be one of the most annoying acronyms to surface in recent months.

Also, rumor has it Space has year's worth of Doom stocked up.
I always VISIT DOOMLINK for my Doom needs.

For many years, Celeste and Rhett went around shouting "DOOMLINK" to each other at random times. It doesn't get any more romantic than that in terms of 9:30 board romance, does it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 12, 2018, 01:57:18 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2018, 01:51:47 pm
It doesn't get any more romantic than that in terms of 9:30 board romance, does it?
I'm assuming you were doing this while enjoying a romantic dinner at the Birchmere? If so, yes: peak board romance.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 16, 2018, 04:13:59 pm
Quote from: S↑dëHã〒çh ✄ ☪ ☣ ☢ ☠ ☭ ♝ on April 12, 2018, 09:20:01 am
In more Aslin news
annnnd tap take over on 4/20 at Union Stage at the Wharf!
love this...
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30729406_10201646913514566_2955967301892662866_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=84aa1e23dde20791ef9455109e01fc19&oe=5B586B62)
Pizza is not terrible IMO
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 18, 2018, 03:22:46 am
Sweetcell shows up at Toronado with no cash.

#cashonly

Smackie was the sucker tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 18, 2018, 08:16:53 am
Quote from: vansmack on April 18, 2018, 03:22:46 am
Sweetcell shows up at Toronado with no cash.

#cashonly

Smackie was the sucker tonight.

How about the Character?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 18, 2018, 09:31:30 am
Quote from: vansmack on April 18, 2018, 03:22:46 am
Sweetcell shows up at Toronado with no cash.

#cashonly

Smackie was the sucker tonight.
Hero they needed, not the hero they deserved.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 18, 2018, 01:52:43 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 18, 2018, 09:31:30 am
Hero they needed, not the hero they deserved.

Hey Smackie, what kind of pizza do you want?  Pepperoni.

Hey Director, what kind of pizza do you want?  Double pepperoni.

Sweetcell, I'll watch your beers, go get the pizza.

Alright.

Bartender walks over, sees Sweetcell's 4 beers lined up....

That dude didn't take off did he?

No, he's getting us pepperoni pizza.

Oh good, that's a lot of fine beer there.

Sweetcell comes back with some fancy ass pizza that has pepperoni and a ton of other shit...

You had one job, dude.  Barkeep, come take these beers!

Annnnddd  SCENE.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 18, 2018, 01:56:15 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 18, 2018, 01:52:43 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 18, 2018, 09:31:30 am
Hero they needed, not the hero they deserved.

Hey Smackie, what kind of pizza do you want?  Pepperoni.

Hey Director, what kind of pizza do you want?  Double pepperoni.

Sweetcell, I'll watch your beers, go get the pizza.

Alright.

Bartender walks over, sees Sweetcell's 4 beers lined up....

That dude didn't take off did he?

No, he's getting us pepperoni pizza.

Oh good, that's a lot of fine beer there.

Sweetcell comes back with some fancy ass pizza that has pepperoni and a ton of other shit...

You had one job, dude.  Barkeep, come take these beers!

Annnnddd  SCENE.
Sorry we missed it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2018, 02:19:28 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 18, 2018, 03:22:46 am
Sweetcell shows up at Toronado with no cash.

#cashonly

Smackie was the sucker tonight.

Who needs bills when you're rolling with your sugah?

We enjoyed:
Upland/Cascade: Pearpawsterous
Full hands in by Sante Adairius Rustic Ales
Pliny by RR (so many plinys...)
Order of Hermes Berliner weisse by Modern Times

All were EXCELLENT, perfect way to end an excellent evening. amazing to see the inroads that sour beer has made.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2018, 02:20:09 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 18, 2018, 01:52:43 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 18, 2018, 09:31:30 am
Hero they needed, not the hero they deserved.

Hey Smackie, what kind of pizza do you want?  Pepperoni.

Hey Director, what kind of pizza do you want?  Double pepperoni.

Sweetcell, I'll watch your beers, go get the pizza.

Alright.

Bartender walks over, sees Sweetcell's 4 beers lined up....

That dude didn't take off did he?

No, he's getting us pepperoni pizza.

Oh good, that's a lot of fine beer there.

Sweetcell comes back with some fancy ass pizza that has pepperoni and a ton of other shit...

You had one job, dude.  Barkeep, come take these beers!

Annnnddd  SCENE.

#spicypizzagate
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 21, 2018, 09:47:54 am
Hey Yada, which beers are the winners on this draft list?


**HERE IS SUNDAY 4/22ND’S FULL DRAFT LIST**

The Veil:

-greenferrari-8%-DIPA w/Simcoe and Galaxy

-redferrari-8%-DIPA w/Mosaic and Galaxy

-Never Aloha3-5.3%-triple Hawaiian Punch Gose

-Raspberry All That You Are-5.6%-spelt farmhouse inspired ale aged in wine barrels for 12 months, then conditioned on local raspberries

-2018 Sleeping Forever-12%-anniversary imperial stout

-2017 vintage Apple Brandy BA Sleeping Forever-13%-anniverary Imperial stout aged in laird’s Apple Brandy barrels for 13 months *contains lactose*

-2018 Vanilla Sleeping Forever-12%-anniversary imperial stout conditioned on Vanilla beans

-2017 vintage Danish cherry wine BA Sleeping Forever-13%-anniversary imperial stout aged in Frederiksdal cherry wine barrels for 14 months *contains lactose*

-ImdonewithU-11%-0 IBU TIPA w/Citra and Mosaic

-2017 vintage bourbon BA Sleeping Forever:coconut-13%-anniversary imperial stout aged in Buffalo Trace bourbon barrels for 12 months conditioned on coconut *contains lactose*

-2017 Bourbon Barrel Aged White Russian Hornswoggler-8.5%-robust chocolate milk stout aged in Bowman bourbon barrels for 6 months w/coffee, vanilla, and other special ingredients(released at Dark Daze 2017) *contains lactose*

-Never Gonnagetit3-5.3%-triple mixed berry Gose

-whiteferrari-8%-DIPA w/Citra and Galaxy

-Stolen Days-5.2%-blended barrel fermented mixed fermentation ales

-2016 Vintage Kentucky Reserve Sleeping Forever-14%-anniversary imperial stout aged in bourbon barrels for 24 months

-2016 vintage Single Barrel Honey Rye Whangdoodle-11.5%-Imperial chocolate milk stout aged for 14 months in a Buffalo Trace rye barrel that previously held VA wild flower honey(released at 2017 Dark Daze) *contains lactose*

-Bourbon BA Circle of Wolves-12.8%-English barelywine aged in Four Roses and Heaven Hill barrels for 20 months

**back-up beers as other beers kick**
-Sauvage
-Apple Brandy BA Circle of Wolves
-Never More
-dieyoung
-2016 vintage bourbon barrel aged Sleeping Forever
-2017 vintage Sleeping Forever
-Keepz Building
-Feel Feelings
-white bugatti
-Never Forever3
-BJCP Update
-Crucial Shredder
-Never Never Backdown Backdown

Other Half Brewing Company:

-Triple Cream - 10% - Triple Dry Hopped Imperial Oat Cream IPA with lactose, tons of oats, Wai-iti, Kohatu, Ekuanot, Citra, Citra Lupulin Powder, and Galaxy

-The Green In Your Area - 8.7% - Imperial India Pale Ale with Galaxy, Simcoe, El Dorado, and Enigma

-Double Dry Hopped Mylar Bags - 8.5% - Imperial India Pale Ale with Amarillo, Galaxy, Citra, Mosaic, El Dorado, Citra lupulin powder, Mosaic lupulin powder, and Galaxy

-Double Dry Hopped All Citra Everything - 8.5% - DDH Citra Imperial Pale Ale

Monkish Brewing Co.:

-Biggie Biggie Biggie - 10.2% - An El Dorado and Galaxy dry-hopped TRIPLE IPA!

-Rinse In Riffs - 8.4% - Double dry hopped version of "Bathe In Bass Lines” DIPA, overloaded with Galaxy and Citra hops.

-The Realness - 8% - DDH version of Really Real DIPA using the same hops, Galaxy and Amarillo!

-Black Kisses - 7.7% - Barrel-fermented saison with blackberries and black currants

Tired Hands Brewing Company:

-Specialty Ale: Refreshing - 8% - Double IPA with oats, Galaxy, Citra, and Lemon Drop

-Saison Hands - 4.8% - Four-Grain Saison. Brewed with rye, oats, wheat and Cascade hops

Jester King Brewery:

-Atrial Rubicite - 5.8% - Atrial Rubicite is made from well water, barley, wheat, hops, farmhouse, native yeast from the Texas Hill Country, souring bacteria and raspberries. It’s 5.8% alcohol by volume, has a finishing gravity of 1.005 and is 3.36 pH. It is unfiltered, unpasteurized and 100% bottle conditioned.

Trillium Brewing Company:

-Plum Super Soak - 7.1% -
Super Soak: our Soak series amped up with a bigger malt bill, increased ABV, and twice the amount of fruit as Soak. While still sour, the higher ABV in Super Soak serves to moderate the lactic acid formation.

-Macaroon - 12.3% -
We teamed up with our friends at The Veil Brewing Co. to brew the latest iteration of our dessert stout line: Macaroon, inspired by the delicious coconut pastry of the same name.

Macaroon presents an inky, opaque black and leads with a rich, wafting nose of coconut, chocolate milk, hazelnut, and marzipan. A thick, creamy mouthfeel is complemented by flavors of Mounds bars, powdered chocolate milk, and a chocolatey hazelnut. Macaroon is decadent, rich and drinkable.

-Permutation 32 - 9.2% -
Permutation is our experimental series of small batch offerings, showcasing the unique visions and innovative concepts developed by our brewing and cellar crew.

Permutation Series #32 beckons with a powerful pineapple, melon, and orange creamsicle nose. A cantaloupe and pithy grapefruit palate with soft bitterness is complemented by a pillowy, full mouthfeel.

Bissell Brothers:

-Swish - 8% - Our Double IPA. Citra, Mosaic, Simcoe, Apollo.

***will be tapped after Swish kicks***
-Big Small World - 5.5% - Our first beer to feature a grain bill grown entirely in Maine, this APA also packs a globetrotting hop punch from Hallertau Blanc (DEU) Galaxy (AUS) and Motueka (NZL). The rise of beer as culture and art have enabled producers to source ingredients the world over, while selling the finished product locally, to a relatively small audience. It's a big small world we now live in, thanks to beer's newfound renaissance!

Oxbow Brewing Company:

-Cavern - 6.5% - Barrel-aged/fermented blonde farmhouse ale spiced w/ cara cara orange juice & zest.

**will be tapped after Cavern kicks**
-BA Sasuga - 6% -Barrel Aged saison

Friendly reminder we will be open extended hours on Sunday April 22nd from 12-8pm!

We will be selling non-refundable drink tickets all day for the event that are only valid for 4/22 so please purchase drink tickets mindfully.

Our homies from The Highroller Lobster Co. will be there slinging food all day(*until sell out*) all the way from Portland, ME! 🙏

Hope to see y’all then!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2018, 02:31:03 pm
All of the above.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 23, 2018, 12:22:50 pm
hopefully you tried the Atrial Rubicite... incredible beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 23, 2018, 12:51:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 23, 2018, 12:22:50 pm
hopefully you tried the Atrial Rubicite... incredible beer.

It was excellent but not mind-blowing (that pretty much sums up all we tried.) Honestly, if you had told me that it was a fruited gose or berliner made by the Veil or the Answer, I wouldn't have questioned it.

The whole thing was very well run. We got there 30 mins after opening and never encountered a line. I should first went for the Monkish DIPA's, as they sold out first and we didn't get any...but no biggie.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 17, 2018, 11:33:30 am
Finally, a beer festival for Killsally.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi2dexBFHbI/?utm_source=ig_embed
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 17, 2018, 12:29:46 pm
^although he had major disdain for NYC
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 17, 2018, 03:48:02 pm
didn't he hate IPAs? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on May 22, 2018, 10:57:47 am
DFH Crowlers

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1101988015978&ca=60e8597b-283c-4796-a54c-86a6dea42dba
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2018, 11:31:59 am
Crowlers are great, such a needed addition to craft beer

I often go somewhere and want to take just a few items home...and of course didn't have the foresight to bring my filthy growler with it's nasty cap

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2018, 11:59:22 am
Quote from: SpaceForceHatch ☣ ☢ ☠ on May 22, 2018, 11:31:59 am
Crowlers are great, such a needed addition to craft beer

I often go somewhere and want to take just a few items home...and of course didn't have the foresight to bring my filthy growler with it's nasty cap

instead of using up a bunch of aluminium and energy, why not spend a moment to clean that nasty growler? 

"why re-use something we already have, when we can consume something new!!!"

(yes, i'm aware that crowlers can be recycled... cleaning a growler is the better enviro option by a long-shot.)

back to your regularly-scheduled consumer fetishism.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 22, 2018, 01:14:22 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 22, 2018, 11:59:22 am
Quote from: SpaceForceHatch ☣ ☢ ☠ on May 22, 2018, 11:31:59 am
Crowlers are great, such a needed addition to craft beer

I often go somewhere and want to take just a few items home...and of course didn't have the foresight to bring my filthy growler with it's nasty cap

instead of using up a bunch of aluminium and energy, why not spend a moment to clean that nasty growler? 

"why re-use something we already have, when we can consume something new!!!"

(yes, i'm aware that crowlers can be recycled... cleaning a growler is the better enviro option by a long-shot.)

back to your regularly-scheduled consumer fetishism.

Primarily because many brewers round these parts will only supply crowlers, not growler fills. They also last a lot longer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on May 22, 2018, 04:10:40 pm
I like the crowler option. I'm not always ready to drink an entire growler, and my husband doensn't drink IPAs...

Anyone been to Cushwa Brewery? Checking it out this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 22, 2018, 05:00:28 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on May 22, 2018, 04:10:40 pm
I like the crowler option. I'm not always ready to drink an entire growler, and my husband doensn't drink IPAs...

Anyone been to Cushwa Brewery? Checking it out this weekend.

I've been... A few pretty outstanding hazy IPAs, the rest were pretty meh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 24, 2018, 02:22:40 pm
Interesting interview with Mr. Hill.

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2018/05/24/Beer-industry-failing-to-address-mental-health-and-alcohol-link-says-top-brewer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 29, 2018, 01:19:27 pm
https://articles.nola.com/environment/index.ssf/2018/05/six-pack_rings_that_feed_sea_t.amp

Also... insert....

*savor events are better than the event itself*

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/draft-picks-savor-2018&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1527695333939000&usg=AFQjCNEo_qTVSLw_BZ9zFdOHUJlWQxKGjg
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 29, 2018, 01:22:30 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 29, 2018, 01:19:27 pm
https://articles.nola.com/environment/index.ssf/2018/05/six-pack_rings_that_feed_sea_t.amp

Also... insert....

*savor events are better than the event itself*

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/draft-picks-savor-2018&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1527695333939000&usg=AFQjCNEo_qTVSLw_BZ9zFdOHUJlWQxKGjg

So what events/side events are you (or anyone) going to?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 29, 2018, 01:34:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 29, 2018, 01:22:30 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 29, 2018, 01:19:27 pm
https://articles.nola.com/environment/index.ssf/2018/05/six-pack_rings_that_feed_sea_t.amp

Also... insert....

*savor events are better than the event itself*

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/draft-picks-savor-2018&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1527695333939000&usg=AFQjCNEo_qTVSLw_BZ9zFdOHUJlWQxKGjg

So what events/side events are you (or anyone) going to?

If any, most likely something at MP. Closest to my house, least crowded. You?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 29, 2018, 02:00:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 29, 2018, 01:34:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 29, 2018, 01:22:30 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 29, 2018, 01:19:27 pm
https://articles.nola.com/environment/index.ssf/2018/05/six-pack_rings_that_feed_sea_t.amp

Also... insert....

*savor events are better than the event itself*

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/draft-picks-savor-2018&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1527695333939000&usg=AFQjCNEo_qTVSLw_BZ9zFdOHUJlWQxKGjg

So what events/side events are you (or anyone) going to?

If any, most likely something at MP. Closest to my house, least crowded. You?

Maybe Brookland Pint tomorrow, since it's a quick Metro ride from work. Maybe some of the Craft Beer Cellar events since it's a quick walk from work. Maybe Churchkey Friday since I like to occasionally leave work early on a Friday to go drink beer. Friday is also my wife's birthday, and though she has no interest in driving into DC on her telework day to drink beer (and doesn't like the food at CK), I have to make it appear that I'm not having too much fun without her on her birthday (before going home and taking her to dinner in the burbs.) I hope she does not read this thread.

MP does have some nice offerings, but they're probably the least convenient for me!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 29, 2018, 02:52:02 pm
Fremont and Perennial Unicorn Tears at Meridian Pint on thursday is worthy of serious consideration.  the unicorn tears and head full of dynomite are both excellent.  the vanilla bean-spiked variant of Abraxas can't be a slouch either...

i assume that Space will be all over the half-price Sierra and Bruery bottles at roofer's union tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 31, 2018, 09:39:40 am
Made my first Savor event appearance yesterday. Pre-birthday lunch for my wife at Brookland Pint.

I had small pours of:

FW Parabajava: A+
Founders CBS: A-
FW Coconut Rye Parabola: A--
FW 18th Anniversary: B+

She had:

FW Sour Opal (full pour) A-
NB La Folie (small pour) A (longtime favorite, especially after drinking it at both sources)

I didn't get much work done in the afternoon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on May 31, 2018, 09:42:22 am
That sounds like a great lunch!! 👍
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 31, 2018, 11:37:28 am
Quote from: hutch on May 31, 2018, 09:42:22 am
That sounds like a great lunch!! 👍

Oh, and we had food too.

She had he kale salad topped with salmon, i had the 3 bean veggie quesadilla (B)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on June 01, 2018, 01:58:16 pm
I've got a pair of tickets for sale for Saturday's Savor session if anyone is interested. Won't be able to go  :'(

Edit - Sold!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 06, 2018, 01:32:15 pm
3 stars dropping some limited-edition (read: bandwagon'ing) Capitals-inspired t-shirts: https://www.facebook.com/3starsbrewing/photos/a.625551617484989.1073741827.154986941208128/2306019626104838/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/3starsbrewing/photos/a.625551617484989.1073741827.154986941208128/2306019626104838/?type=3&theater)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on June 07, 2018, 09:13:01 am
It's back!


https://foundersbrewing.com/latest-news/2017/2018-update-double-trouble-returns/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on June 07, 2018, 09:35:09 am
Anyone have Cloudburst at Saveur?

Went out to Cushwa Brewing Company a few weeks ago. Pretty solid beers and a cute little space.

Also, Peabody Brewing is really good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 27, 2018, 07:54:22 pm
Since I don't drink, I ignore this thread, but this seemed to be the right place for this story:

Body found in SunTrust freezer ID'd, reportedly that of beer entrepreneur (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-baseball-mlb-atl-body-found/body-found-in-suntrust-freezer-idd-reportedly-that-of-beer-entrepreneur-idUSKBN1JN2Z4?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5b3422b504d30128cd770d21&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on June 30, 2018, 05:07:49 pm
http://www.inkedmag.com/g/vagina-flavored-beer-made-from-models-vaginal-yeast/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2018, 04:45:04 pm
(https://untappd.akamaized.net/photos/2018_07_09/3939bb29c8acc62bb121eb39c0e4092b_640x640.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 13, 2018, 07:07:18 pm
I find beer puns annoying, but that one is really good.  Takes a little work...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 16, 2018, 09:40:01 am
well that posting had two points
beer name/artwork

the other was ...they made a beer for Space (I know he is totally into Cosplay)
Although, it will probably not pass the Space price per oz cost efficiency ratio
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 17, 2018, 03:00:32 pm
if anyone is looking for a presale code for GABF tickets, ping me.  i'm not going to use my AHA code so it's up for grabs.  gives you the right to buy saturday afternoon tickets (AKA the members-only session), early access to all tickets, plus a $5 discount on the 3 public sessions.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 17, 2018, 03:05:09 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 17, 2018, 03:00:32 pm
if anyone is looking for a presale code for GABF tickets, ping me.
Read this as GYBE and was wondering why this was in the beer thread. Reading comprehension is hard.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 18, 2018, 08:40:03 am
pretty good deal going on at Sovereign on Saturday
This Belgian Independence Day, The Sovereign is celebrating in style by popping some of our favorite bottles. Join us on Saturday, July 21st as we offer 21 different bottles at half price, all day long.

Beginning at 11 AM, The Sovereign will offer 21 of director Greg Engert’s personal picks at some truly unbelievable prices.

Highlights include some classic Belgian Gueuzes from Cantillon, Drie Fonteinen, Girardin and Tilquin – in addition to some stunning beers from American stalwarts Oxbow, Jester King and Crooked Stave.

There is no admission fee for the event. The half priced bottles will be available all day on both floors.

THE SOVEREIGN’S BELGIAN INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION LIST
Allagash James & Julie (Sour Brown Ale; $12.5)
Alvinne Wild West 2014 (Red Wine BA Sour Blond Ale; $11.5)
American Solera Little Foo (Oak BA Saison; $12)
Anchorage Whiteout Wit (Chardonnay BA Witbier w/ Brett; $12.5)
Blackberry Farm Noble Cuvée (Dry-Hopped Saison; $17.5)
Bruery Terreux Beret (Imperial Witbier w/ Raspberry ($17.5)
Cantillon Classic Gueuze 2016 (Gueuze; 1, 2 & 3 Year Blend; $15)
Cascade Sang Royale (Red Wine BA Sour Red Ale w/ Wine Grapes; $27.5)
Casey Family Reserve: Laroda Plum (Oak BA Saison w/ Plum; $27.5)
Crooked Stave Notturna Reserva: Blueberry (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Blueberry; $11)
De Ranke Kriek De Ranke (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Cherry; $17.5)
Drie Fonteinen Oude Geuze 2015 (Gueuze; 1, 2 & 3 Year Blend; $12)
E9 Wild Tacoma Cherry (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Cherry; $11)
Fantôme Chocolat (Saison w/ Cocoa Powder & Chilies; $12.5)
Girardin Gueuze Black Label 2016 (Gueuze; 12, 18 & 24 Month Blend; $13.5)
Jester King Wytchmaker (Brett IPA; $12.5)
Jolly Pumpkin Matame Ahorita (Oak BA Sour Blond Ale w/ Yuzu, Lime & Lemon; $15)
Oxbow Sasuga (Saison w/ Rice & Brett; $17.5)
Perennial Savant Beersel (Red Wine BA Saison w/ Wine Grapes; $25)
Tilquin Oude Gueuze 2014/2015 (Gueuze; 1, 2 & 3 Year Blend; $16)
The Veil No More Sleep (Bourbon BA Dark Saison; $20)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 18, 2018, 12:00:02 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 18, 2018, 08:40:03 am
pretty good deal going on at Sovereign on Saturday
This Belgian Independence Day, The Sovereign is celebrating in style by popping some of our favorite bottles. Join us on Saturday, July 21st as we offer 21 different bottles at half price, all day long.

Beginning at 11 AM, The Sovereign will offer 21 of director Greg Engert’s personal picks at some truly unbelievable prices.

Highlights include some classic Belgian Gueuzes from Cantillon, Drie Fonteinen, Girardin and Tilquin – in addition to some stunning beers from American stalwarts Oxbow, Jester King and Crooked Stave.

There is no admission fee for the event. The half priced bottles will be available all day on both floors.

THE SOVEREIGN’S BELGIAN INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION LIST
Allagash James & Julie (Sour Brown Ale; $12.5)
Alvinne Wild West 2014 (Red Wine BA Sour Blond Ale; $11.5)
American Solera Little Foo (Oak BA Saison; $12)
Anchorage Whiteout Wit (Chardonnay BA Witbier w/ Brett; $12.5)
Blackberry Farm Noble Cuvée (Dry-Hopped Saison; $17.5)
Bruery Terreux Beret (Imperial Witbier w/ Raspberry ($17.5)
Cantillon Classic Gueuze 2016 (Gueuze; 1, 2 & 3 Year Blend; $15)
Cascade Sang Royale (Red Wine BA Sour Red Ale w/ Wine Grapes; $27.5)
Casey Family Reserve: Laroda Plum (Oak BA Saison w/ Plum; $27.5)
Crooked Stave Notturna Reserva: Blueberry (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Blueberry; $11)
De Ranke Kriek De Ranke (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Cherry; $17.5)
Drie Fonteinen Oude Geuze 2015 (Gueuze; 1, 2 & 3 Year Blend; $12)
E9 Wild Tacoma Cherry (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Cherry; $11)
Fantôme Chocolat (Saison w/ Cocoa Powder & Chilies; $12.5)
Girardin Gueuze Black Label 2016 (Gueuze; 12, 18 & 24 Month Blend; $13.5)
Jester King Wytchmaker (Brett IPA; $12.5)
Jolly Pumpkin Matame Ahorita (Oak BA Sour Blond Ale w/ Yuzu, Lime & Lemon; $15)
Oxbow Sasuga (Saison w/ Rice & Brett; $17.5)
Perennial Savant Beersel (Red Wine BA Saison w/ Wine Grapes; $25)
Tilquin Oude Gueuze 2014/2015 (Gueuze; 1, 2 & 3 Year Blend; $16)
The Veil No More Sleep (Bourbon BA Dark Saison; $20)

Thanks for posting. That's tempting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 18, 2018, 12:41:16 pm
this article is a year old, but it's a good reminder why not to buy BMC-owned brands:

Oops, They Did It Again: AB Fined for Pay-to-Play (http://thorn.beer/oops-ab-fined-pay-play/)

"The settlement between the ABC and AB included one of the largest fines ever levied by the ABC of $400,000...
(...)
... the fine is only 1.5% of the parent company’s daily  profit."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on July 25, 2018, 09:10:29 pm
I, have not done one of these, in a while.  went to the beach, and it was nice to visit a beer store which was other, than the one I normally use.  found some bottles of these


clown,shoes    the train I ride  tipa

brewery terreux   sour in the, rye

ecliptic   carina, peach sour

new belgium   2106 le terroir

wicked weed   sandiaca / persistence / incandescent

also . . . found these weird wines in a can, from eg wine company.  1 can, equals half a bottle.  lady said, it is new rage.  doesn't taste like the can either.  we will see.  got a bubbly and rose.

al,so . . . went to pen druid before beach and found these in bottles   

penelope  13 month barrel aged dark sour
sun people  american wild sour
spontaneous   with wild blackberries


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 25, 2018, 09:43:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 18, 2018, 12:00:02 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 18, 2018, 08:40:03 am
pretty good deal going on at Sovereign on Saturday
This Belgian Independence Day, The Sovereign is celebrating in style by popping some of our favorite bottles. Join us on Saturday, July 21st as we offer 21 different bottles at half price, all day long.

Beginning at 11 AM, The Sovereign will offer 21 of director Greg Engert’s personal picks at some truly unbelievable prices.

Highlights include some classic Belgian Gueuzes from Cantillon, Drie Fonteinen, Girardin and Tilquin – in addition to some stunning beers from American stalwarts Oxbow, Jester King and Crooked Stave.

There is no admission fee for the event. The half priced bottles will be available all day on both floors.

THE SOVEREIGN’S BELGIAN INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION LIST
Allagash James & Julie (Sour Brown Ale; $12.5)
Alvinne Wild West 2014 (Red Wine BA Sour Blond Ale; $11.5)
American Solera Little Foo (Oak BA Saison; $12)
Anchorage Whiteout Wit (Chardonnay BA Witbier w/ Brett; $12.5)
Blackberry Farm Noble Cuvée (Dry-Hopped Saison; $17.5)
Bruery Terreux Beret (Imperial Witbier w/ Raspberry ($17.5)
Cantillon Classic Gueuze 2016 (Gueuze; 1, 2 & 3 Year Blend; $15)
Cascade Sang Royale (Red Wine BA Sour Red Ale w/ Wine Grapes; $27.5)
Casey Family Reserve: Laroda Plum (Oak BA Saison w/ Plum; $27.5)
Crooked Stave Notturna Reserva: Blueberry (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Blueberry; $11)
De Ranke Kriek De Ranke (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Cherry; $17.5)
Drie Fonteinen Oude Geuze 2015 (Gueuze; 1, 2 & 3 Year Blend; $12)
E9 Wild Tacoma Cherry (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Cherry; $11)
Fantôme Chocolat (Saison w/ Cocoa Powder & Chilies; $12.5)
Girardin Gueuze Black Label 2016 (Gueuze; 12, 18 & 24 Month Blend; $13.5)
Jester King Wytchmaker (Brett IPA; $12.5)
Jolly Pumpkin Matame Ahorita (Oak BA Sour Blond Ale w/ Yuzu, Lime & Lemon; $15)
Oxbow Sasuga (Saison w/ Rice & Brett; $17.5)
Perennial Savant Beersel (Red Wine BA Saison w/ Wine Grapes; $25)
Tilquin Oude Gueuze 2014/2015 (Gueuze; 1, 2 & 3 Year Blend; $16)
The Veil No More Sleep (Bourbon BA Dark Saison; $20)

Thanks for posting. That's tempting.

We had the Drie Fontenein, the Cantillon, the Casey, and a Crooked Stave on draft. All awesome. Combine that with the food, and glad we put it on my wife's credit card and i didn't see the bill.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 25, 2018, 09:44:55 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on July 25, 2018, 09:10:29 pm
I, have not done one of these, in a while.  went to the beach, and it was nice to visit a beer store which was other, than the one I normally use.  found some bottles of these


clown,shoes    the train I ride  tipa

brewery terreux   sour in the, rye

ecliptic   carina, peach sour

new belgium   2106 le terroir

wicked weed   sandiaca / persistence / incandescent

also . . . found these weird wines in a can, from eg wine company.  1 can, equals half a bottle.  lady said, it is new rage.  doesn't taste like the can either.  we will see.  got a bubbly and rose.

al,so . . . went to pen druid before beach and found these in bottles   

penelope  13 month barrel aged dark sour
sun people  american wild sour
spontaneous   with wild blackberries

Let us know what your favorites are!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on July 25, 2018, 09:51:43 pm
so far, space.

pd  penelope  worth the trip to the brewery.  and while you are in sperryville.  the other brewery, hopkins ordinary, is the shit!

clown shoes  the train i ride.  am i dumb to think that tipas are supposed to be some over the top, i got raped with hops experience, that i wonder if i really liked it, with a confused look on my face like something just was not right.  this beer, was instead calm and smoother but nice taste.  i like it, but again, i like most good beers that are called ipas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 25, 2018, 11:19:53 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on July 25, 2018, 09:51:43 pm
so far, space.

pd  penelope  worth the trip to the brewery.  and while you are in sperryville.  the other brewery, hopkins ordinary, is the shit!

clown shoes  the train i ride.  am i dumb to think that tipas are supposed to be some over the top, i got raped with hops experience, that i wonder if i really liked it, with a confused look on my face like something just was not right.  this beer, was instead calm and smoother but nice taste.  i like it, but again, i like most good beers that are called ipas.

We went to Hopkins Ordinary the last time in Sperryville,after hiking WhiteOak Canyon. The beer was decent, if a bit ordinary. Not as good as Pen Druid. The garden space was very nice. On the same trip we also went to a place called Powers Farm Brewery, because we liked the name. My wife remarked that their beer was about as good as my homebrew, though i think that was being generous.

I can't think of a TiPA that i've enjoyed outside of Aslin's Triple Orange Starfish. I think about 8% abv is my sweet spot for(D)IPA's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2018, 03:41:13 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 30, 2018, 05:00:09 pm
going to be in Seattle for a few days
won't have a car, but will be downtown (South lake)

What breweries are must visits
and are any public transit friendly
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 30, 2018, 05:29:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 30, 2018, 05:00:09 pm
going to be in Seattle for a few days
won't have a car, but will be downtown (South lake)

What breweries are must visits
and are any public transit friendly

Sweetcell is probably the man to answer this but I'll take a stab.

The last time I was in Seattle was summer 2015. There wasn't much to speak of downtown...Elysian is decent but I think they are AB-Inbev owned. It looks like a place called Cloudbursting has opened downtown, getting good ratings on Beer Advocate.

I think the one must-hit brewery for beer quality is Holy Mountain. Fremont Brewing is great for atmosphere, and for beer if you hit one of their special brews (e.g Bourbon Abominable, Dark Star, etc). Rueben's is pretty decent too.

I took the bus from downtown to Holy Mountain to Fremont back to downtown. My wife and daughter took the bus from downtown to Reubens to Fremont (maybe they walked between those two? I think they were up that way for other reasons as well...the jumping salmon and Archie McPhee's to name a couple of things), back to downtown. And we all lived to tell about it.

Sweetcell?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 30, 2018, 07:11:28 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 30, 2018, 05:00:09 pm
going to be in Seattle for a few days
won't have a car, but will be downtown (South lake)


I was just there last week and found the beer scene just ok...

Cloudburst for Haze
Holy Mountain for super acidic sours
Fremont for average all around beers unless they have something special on tap (DC seems to get better Fremont beer than the actually brewery)
Urban Family Brewing is also good.

Highly recommend The Masonry for an awesome tap list and great pizza (you'll be walking distance to the one location).

No Anchor is great as well with a killer dungeoness crab roll  and adispensary a block away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 30, 2018, 09:37:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 30, 2018, 07:11:28 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 30, 2018, 05:00:09 pm
going to be in Seattle for a few days
won't have a car, but will be downtown (South lake)
  and a dispensary a block away.
oh yeah there's that too...how could I forget


thanks for the tips so far
I'll be just a few blocks from Cloudburst Brewing and No Anchor

location changed to a condo in Pikes Place Market...please tell me this is not the same thing as the San Francisco Wharf

Also came across this cool bike rental place that will bring a quality road bike to you and cheaper than most rental outfits http://pedalanywhere.com/
so I hope to do at least 100 miles during my stay

I guess I should add...good breweries that are bikable from downtown too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 31, 2018, 12:09:04 am
I stand by my original list of four breweries no matter your mode of transportation.

Pike Place is indeed a tourist trap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2018, 09:01:39 am
PBR!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:53:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 30, 2018, 05:29:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 30, 2018, 05:00:09 pm
going to be in Seattle for a few days
won't have a car, but will be downtown (South lake)

What breweries are must visits
and are any public transit friendly

Sweetcell is probably the man to answer this

actually, i'm probably not the best person for this.  i've had limited exposure to the seattle scene, as i'm happy as a clam out here in the mountains.  in the 16 months i've been here, i've been into seattle maybe 5 or 6 times (mostly to go to protests).  luckily we have Yada here to set us straight.

based on my observations and interactions with other beer geeks, it seems that beer culture is much more laid back here.  there isn't an obsession with visiting every single brewery, checking everything in to Untappd, standing in line for bottles, etc... those are things tourists do, not locals.  folks seem to talk a lot more about enjoying the location, the vibe, how environmental the brewery is or what causes it supports, etc.  i mean, the beer still needs to be good (and, because it's the west coast, super hoppy).

HOWEVER, i might be in a better position to offer an opinion next weekend: i'm (finally) meeting up with stevewizzle and a MD brewing buddy, and we're contemplating bar hopping that saturday night.  last time those two hung out, they sung the praises of the pine box (https://www.pineboxbar.com/) bar.

holy mountain and cloudburst are the two most common recommendations i hear.  someday i'll make it there too.

Quote from: Yada on July 30, 2018, 07:11:28 pm
(DC seems to get better Fremont beer than the actually brewery)

if you're talking about their one-off seasonal releases, like Dark Star and Abominable, well of course they're not going to have those on tap 24/7/365 - just like you're not going to get KBS year-round at Founders.  did you try Lush?

Quote from: Yada on July 31, 2018, 12:09:04 am
Pike Place is indeed a tourist trap.

agreed.  it's not as bad as times square, and there is an underbelly if you poke around, but there isn't much there that you need to see. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
Zymurgy Magazine: mag of the American Homebrewers Association.

their best-of-2018 list (https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/best-beers-in-america-2/): predictable.  two hearted, pliny, heady, hopslam, SNPA, CBS, KBS, zombie... take out founders, and the top 11 beers are all hops hops hops.  i like hops as much as the next guy, but c'mon... good "top breweries" list, although Bell's at #1 is debatable.

best beer by state (https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/2018-zymurgy-best-beers-by-state/):
Maryland: Loose Canon | American IPA | Heavy Seas Beer       (WTF???)
Virginia: Master Shredder | American IPA | The Veil Brewing Co.
Washington D.C.: Starsky & Dutch | Sweet Stout | 3 Stars Brewing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 02, 2018, 02:37:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:53:36 pm

 did you try Lush?


Indeed... Drank sixers of that all weekend at The Gorge. Pretty nice to be able to buy that at Fred Meyers canned only 10 days prior.

Also, took a gamble on Sapwood today... I think you may have mentioned a long time ago that was your buddy, I split the sour club with a few folks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 02, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
Virginia: Master Shredder | American IPA | The Veil Brewing Co.
Washington D.C.: Starsky & Dutch | Sweet Stout | 3 Stars Brewing
these two are pretty awesome


Freemont, cloudburst and Holy Mountain will likely...plus they are all right off the bike trails
Heard Shorty's is a great dive bar close to where I'm at
Quote
bar hopping that saturday night
8/11 or 8/18?

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/p320x320/22549689_1578257448899610_3454778797905170633_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=47fae9bfb2bf6015a4e8fc675f7d5cc7&oe=5BC86A03)
cool logo
wish some better ones would open closer to Arlington
I'm not driving for one hour to Columbia to get a beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 06:57:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2018, 02:37:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:53:36 pm

 did you try Lush?

Indeed... Drank sixers of that all weekend at The Gorge. Pretty nice to be able to buy that at Fred Meyers canned only 10 days prior.

for most IPAs i have a one-month rule.  with freemont, it's 2 weeks ;D

aside: assuming you drove from seattle to the gorge, you passed within 2 miles of my place while zooming up I-90.

Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2018, 02:37:42 pm
Also, took a gamble on Sapwood today... I think you may have mentioned a long time ago that was your buddy, I split the sour club with a few folks.

NICE!  please please report back on their offerings.  i'd sign up for their club in a heartbeat if i could.

i know both guys behind the project - Mike, who literally wrote the book on american sours (https://www.brewerspublications.com/collections/beer-styles/products/american-sour-beers-innovative-techniques-for-mixed-fermentations), and Scott, AKA Mr. Hop Science (http://scottjanish.com/).  those two have forgotten more about making good beer than most folks will ever learn.  if their commercial output is anything like their homebrews, y'all in for a treat.

Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on August 02, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
bar hopping that saturday night
8/11 or 8/18?

8/11.  when are you in town? 

Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on August 02, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
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cool logo
wish some better ones would open closer to Arlington
I'm not driving for one hour to Columbia to get a beer

i realize this doesn't happen very often, but next time you make it to MPP: pre-game at Sapwood?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 02, 2018, 07:21:47 pm
Did I mention that we're going to Jasper and Banff starting Tuesday and the beer options suck? I'll probably drink wine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on August 02, 2018, 07:55:25 pm
Sour, in the Rye . . . is the sourest sour I've sucked, on.

Also, loving this new beer I got, called  -  District 9  Piggy Kisses
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on August 02, 2018, 08:55:38 pm
one, other thing.  just opened my after dinner beer, about to do laundry and then watch something; could be anything.  this thing is super bizarre with a taste not experienced in a beer, on this tongue

founders  barrel runner

almost like a gin burn slide taste, hiding most hints of actual beer in there . . . and if I am reading this correct, it is 11.11 percent.  ooh, damn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 03, 2018, 12:04:32 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on August 02, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
Virginia: Master Shredder | American IPA | The Veil Brewing Co.
Washington D.C.: Starsky & Dutch | Sweet Stout | 3 Stars Brewing
these two are pretty awesome

speaking of:

3 Stars Brewing Company (https://www.facebook.com/3starsbrewing/)
Today at 4pm. Starsky & Dutch. Double Dutch Chocolate Stout. ~100 cases. $15/4-pack. That is all. Don’t Sleep.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 03, 2018, 12:46:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
Zymurgy Magazine: mag of the American Homebrewers Association.

their best-of-2018 list (https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/best-beers-in-america-2/): predictable.  two hearted, pliny, heady, hopslam, SNPA, CBS, KBS, zombie... take out founders, and the top 11 beers are all hops hops hops.  i like hops as much as the next guy, but c'mon... good "top breweries" list, although Bell's at #1 is debatable.

best beer by state (https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/2018-zymurgy-best-beers-by-state/):
Maryland: Loose Canon | American IPA | Heavy Seas Beer       (WTF???)
Virginia: Master Shredder | American IPA | The Veil Brewing Co.
Washington D.C.: Starsky & Dutch | Sweet Stout | 3 Stars Brewing

How could they possibly prefer Loose Cannon when they have this on the way?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/music/midnight-sun-blog/bs-fe-guinness-brewery-explainer-20180801-story.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 03, 2018, 01:03:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 03, 2018, 12:04:32 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on August 02, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
Virginia: Master Shredder | American IPA | The Veil Brewing Co.
Washington D.C.: Starsky & Dutch | Sweet Stout | 3 Stars Brewing
these two are pretty awesome

speaking of:

3 Stars Brewing Company (https://www.facebook.com/3starsbrewing/)
Today at 4pm. Starsky & Dutch. Double Dutch Chocolate Stout. ~100 cases. $15/4-pack. That is all. Don’t Sleep.

I haven't had that so can't comment on quality, but is it that rare? They had last year it at my local Whole Foods, which is the smallest Whole Foods in NoVA, and typically doesn't get shit for beer (particularly since their previous beer buyers left.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 03, 2018, 01:30:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 03, 2018, 12:04:32 pm
speaking of:
3 Stars Brewing Company (https://www.facebook.com/3starsbrewing/)
Today at 4pm. Starsky & Dutch. Double Dutch Chocolate Stout. ~100 cases. $15/4-pack. That is all. Don’t Sleep.
This hasn't been too terribly hard to find...but I'm sure after that rating it will fly off the shelves

Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 06:57:33 pm

Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on August 02, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
bar hopping that saturday night
8/11 or 8/18?

8/11.  when are you in town? 
bummer...8/18
Quote

i realize this doesn't happen very often, but next time you make it to MPP: pre-game at Sapwood?
well the SSOA (sweetcell Seal of approval) is typically enough for me to make the trek
so I'm sure I'll make it there sometime

So if I drop your name... they'll give me all sorts of free pours ;)
or will they show me the door
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2018, 01:49:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 03, 2018, 01:03:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 03, 2018, 12:04:32 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on August 02, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
Virginia: Master Shredder | American IPA | The Veil Brewing Co.
Washington D.C.: Starsky & Dutch | Sweet Stout | 3 Stars Brewing
these two are pretty awesome

speaking of:

3 Stars Brewing Company (https://www.facebook.com/3starsbrewing/)
Today at 4pm. Starsky & Dutch. Double Dutch Chocolate Stout. ~100 cases. $15/4-pack. That is all. Don’t Sleep.

I haven't had that so can't comment on quality, but is it that rare? They had last year it at my local Whole Foods, which is the smallest Whole Foods in NoVA, and typically doesn't get shit for beer (particularly since their previous beer buyers left.)

There isn't a 3 Stars beer worth rushing to purchase, those things collect dust everywhere in the DMV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 03, 2018, 05:18:19 pm
While visiting my mom in western Massachusetts, I ventured over the Vermont line, hoping I could find a lowish ABV NE IPA in cans to transport back to Maryland.  So, the owner of the store in Pownal, VT recommended the Foley Brothers Big Bang "American IPA"  (5.5%) out of Brandon, VT.  Hit the spot!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 03, 2018, 07:31:44 pm
Foley Brothers do some good stuff.

I'll be headed to burlington in 10 days. Me and every cooler I own.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 06, 2018, 01:46:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 06:57:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2018, 02:37:42 pm
Also, took a gamble on Sapwood today... I think you may have mentioned a long time ago that was your buddy, I split the sour club with a few folks.

NICE!  please please report back on their offerings.  i'd sign up for their club in a heartbeat if i could.

i know both guys behind the project - Mike, who literally wrote the book on american sours (https://www.brewerspublications.com/collections/beer-styles/products/american-sour-beers-innovative-techniques-for-mixed-fermentations), and Scott, AKA Mr. Hop Science (http://scottjanish.com/).  those two have forgotten more about making good beer than most folks will ever learn.  if their commercial output is anything like their homebrews, y'all in for a treat.

mike just posted an interesting lil' piece on his blog (https://www.themadfermentationist.com/2018/08/brewery-clubs-both-sides.html).

first, it talks about the two different bottle club/memberships that will be offered at Sapwood.

second, at the bottom there is a killer graphic that answers the question "who owns whom in the beer world".  definitely worth a look. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 08, 2018, 10:45:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:53:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 30, 2018, 05:29:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 30, 2018, 05:00:09 pm
going to be in Seattle for a few days
won't have a car, but will be downtown (South lake)

What breweries are must visits
and are any public transit friendly

Sweetcell is probably the man to answer this

actually, i'm probably not the best person for this.  i've had limited exposure to the seattle scene, as i'm happy as a clam out here in the mountains.  in the 16 months i've been here, i've been into seattle maybe 5 or 6 times (mostly to go to protests).  luckily we have Yada here to set us straight.

based on my observations and interactions with other beer geeks, it seems that beer culture is much more laid back here.  there isn't an obsession with visiting every single brewery, checking everything in to Untappd, standing in line for bottles, etc... those are things tourists do, not locals.  folks seem to talk a lot more about enjoying the location, the vibe, how environmental the brewery is or what causes it supports, etc.  i mean, the beer still needs to be good (and, because it's the west coast, super hoppy).

HOWEVER, i might be in a better position to offer an opinion next weekend: i'm (finally) meeting up with stevewizzle and a MD brewing buddy, and we're contemplating bar hopping that saturday night.  last time those two hung out, they sung the praises of the pine box (https://www.pineboxbar.com/) bar.

holy mountain and cloudburst are the two most common recommendations i hear.  someday i'll make it there too.

Quote from: Yada on July 30, 2018, 07:11:28 pm
(DC seems to get better Fremont beer than the actually brewery)

if you're talking about their one-off seasonal releases, like Dark Star and Abominable, well of course they're not going to have those on tap 24/7/365 - just like you're not going to get KBS year-round at Founders.  did you try Lush?

Quote from: Yada on July 31, 2018, 12:09:04 am
Pike Place is indeed a tourist trap.

agreed.  it's not as bad as times square, and there is an underbelly if you poke around, but there isn't much there that you need to see.

Did you go to Cloudburst? I so miss their beers and cool place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 08, 2018, 10:46:31 am
Just in case you haven't gone yet, this is a great bar to check out what the local breweries have on offer.

https://www.noanchorbar.com/

(they also have a sister donut shop that's great)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 08, 2018, 03:20:02 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on August 08, 2018, 10:45:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 12:53:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 30, 2018, 05:29:36 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 30, 2018, 05:00:09 pm
going to be in Seattle for a few days
won't have a car, but will be downtown (South lake)

What breweries are must visits
and are any public transit friendly

Sweetcell is probably the man to answer this

actually, i'm probably not the best person for this.  i've had limited exposure to the seattle scene, as i'm happy as a clam out here in the mountains.  in the 16 months i've been here, i've been into seattle maybe 5 or 6 times (mostly to go to protests).  luckily we have Yada here to set us straight.

based on my observations and interactions with other beer geeks, it seems that beer culture is much more laid back here.  there isn't an obsession with visiting every single brewery, checking everything in to Untappd, standing in line for bottles, etc... those are things tourists do, not locals.  folks seem to talk a lot more about enjoying the location, the vibe, how environmental the brewery is or what causes it supports, etc.  i mean, the beer still needs to be good (and, because it's the west coast, super hoppy).

HOWEVER, i might be in a better position to offer an opinion next weekend: i'm (finally) meeting up with stevewizzle and a MD brewing buddy, and we're contemplating bar hopping that saturday night.  last time those two hung out, they sung the praises of the pine box (https://www.pineboxbar.com/) bar.

holy mountain and cloudburst are the two most common recommendations i hear.  someday i'll make it there too.

Quote from: Yada on July 30, 2018, 07:11:28 pm
(DC seems to get better Fremont beer than the actually brewery)

if you're talking about their one-off seasonal releases, like Dark Star and Abominable, well of course they're not going to have those on tap 24/7/365 - just like you're not going to get KBS year-round at Founders.  did you try Lush?

Quote from: Yada on July 31, 2018, 12:09:04 am
Pike Place is indeed a tourist trap.

agreed.  it's not as bad as times square, and there is an underbelly if you poke around, but there isn't much there that you need to see.

Did you go to Cloudburst? I so miss their beers and cool place.

Unknown if this was directed towards me or sweetcell, but yes, went to Cloudburst as well as No Anchor (see my first post re: Seattle).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2018, 06:55:04 am
https://www.facebook.com/events/1952491528109092/?ti=as
8/31 ocelot tap takeover at Union stage with free Phish cover band
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 09, 2018, 01:02:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 30, 2018, 07:11:28 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 30, 2018, 05:00:09 pm
going to be in Seattle for a few days
won't have a car, but will be downtown (South lake)


I was just there last week and found the beer scene just ok...

Cloudburst for Haze
Holy Mountain for super acidic sours
Fremont for average all around beers unless they have something special on tap (DC seems to get better Fremont beer than the actually brewery)
Urban Family Brewing is also good.

Highly recommend The Masonry for an awesome tap list and great pizza (you'll be walking distance to the one location).

No Anchor is great as well with a killer dungeoness crab roll  and adispensary a block away.

:)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 09, 2018, 07:31:48 pm
Goose Island changeup: Brewer reveals actual 2018 Bourbon County Stout lineup (http://Goose Island changeup: Brewer reveals actual 2018 Bourbon County Stout lineup)

new (or back) this year: wheatwine, vanilla stout, bramble rye stout, coffee barleywine, midnight orange stout
none this year: regular barleywine, coffee stout
fakes: neapolitan stout and horchata stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 10, 2018, 05:49:57 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on August 08, 2018, 10:45:05 am
Did you go to Cloudburst? I so miss their beers and cool place.

cloudburst will be our first destination tomorrow evening. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 10, 2018, 10:53:21 pm
At a wedding with Greg Engert and he did not dress like a Napoleonic Era scribe. 
We did have Cascade sang noir and sip of sunshine
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on August 11, 2018, 11:08:06 am
Quote from: Yada on July 30, 2018, 07:11:28 pm
...and a dispensary a block away.

Not just "a dispensary", but the one-time winner of High Times Best Dispensary in America.  Hell of a selection:

https://haveaheartcc.com/belltown-menu/
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 13, 2018, 02:26:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 10, 2018, 05:49:57 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on August 08, 2018, 10:45:05 am
Did you go to Cloudburst? I so miss their beers and cool place.

cloudburst will be our first destination tomorrow evening. 

so, about saturday night...

as promised/threatened, my homebrewing buddy and i started off at cloudburst (http://www.cloudburstbrew.com/).  i'm sorry to report that i can only back up the praise that folks heep on this place.  their hazy IPAs were amazeballs.  it didn't matter which one your ordered, they were all excellent.  also got to try their imp stout with blackberries, really good as well.  met up with stevewizzle which was a blast.

next went to Brouwers Cafe (https://www.brouwerscafe.com/) - another winner.  decor/ambience was beautiful, felt like an old-school library with those ladders on rails.  i needed a break from IPAs so i had the Modern Times Fruitland Gose w/ Passionfruit & Guava, and a Funkwerks Raspberry Provincial Sour Ale.  both were fantastic.  my buddy had Hair of the Dog Fred from the Wood.  the moules et frites were excellent, mine were in a saison sauce.

third stop was Lucky Envelope (http://www.luckyenvelopebrewing.com/).  unfortunately i can't recommend this place even though i really wanted to like it.  i heard an interview with its founder a while back and liked how their aim was to incorporate Asian influences into their brewing.  they didn't have any such beers on tap, instead they offered a pretty standard lineup.  i had their brut IPA (my first one ever) and my friend had the citra IPA... both were uninspiring.  both had a weird tannic thing going on in the finish.  we didn't finish our pints.  maybe we caught them on an off night?  there was a bevvy of attractive young ladies kicking off their saturday night there, so at least it was entertaining.

final destination was Stoup Brewing (http://www.stoupbrewing.com/).  it wasn't on our list of places we wanted to hit up, but it was nearby and my buddy liked it last time he visited.  it was solid, their IPAs were as one should expect.  they have a nice outdoor area... and a meat vending machine.

our final assessment: we should have just stayed at cloudburst.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 14, 2018, 07:31:43 pm
Stuck in a massive layover in Boston...and fresh trillium DIPAs were welcomed and close... hopefully I won't miss my next flight
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 16, 2018, 09:27:59 am
Stick to bad beer and away from the cronic
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canopy-growth-stake-constellation/corona-owner-invests-another-4-billion-in-cannabis-producer-canopy-idUSKBN1L0155?
$4 billion!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 20, 2018, 09:42:36 am
We go to Fredericksburg once every couple of years to go tubing. There's never been a go to brewery there but i decided to do some research...it appeared that Red Dragon has some freakishly high scores on untappd for their fruited goses and some very good scores for their NEiPA's. I'm happy to report that the scores are well deserved. If these guys were in Richmond, they'd be called the Answer (minus the great stouts at the Answer.)

We just completed our Alberta vacation...some great hiking, biking, and rafting in spite of the wildfire smoke blowing over from BC...all the Jasper/Banff/Canmore breweries are tourist oriented duds, but Dandy Brewing in Calgary is quite good....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 20, 2018, 04:52:33 pm
Got back from Quebec last night and can report that their beer "scene" is thriving, though not particularly good. Ended up sticking to cocktails.

Spent the last couple of days in Vermont and that more than made up for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 21, 2018, 10:17:39 am
"a middle finger to the haze craze"

Come on, Stone. Give up and evolve. Or get left in the dust and turn into the next Green Flash.


*Stone 22nd Anniversary Anni-Matter DIPA 
Stone Brewing has spent over 20 years pursuing clean, bitter, hop forward beers. It would be passé to suggest this beer is simply another gigantically juicy and extremely complex Stone Double IPA. It’s a middle finger to the haze craze proving that clean, crisp IPA’s can still be smashed full of big, juicy, tropical flavor. It’s also the winner of our 2018 Spotlight Series contest, which pits teams of brewers against each other to see who can brew the best beer. Citrus takes the forefront, with plenty of fruit character to back it up. With incredible mouthfeel from the malted oats, the beer isn’t sweet at all, but its light amber color would make you think it is sweeter than it tastes. 9.1% ABV
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 21, 2018, 01:05:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 21, 2018, 10:17:39 am
"a middle finger to the haze craze"

Come on, Stone. Give up and evolve. Or get left in the dust and turn into the next Green Flash.

to be fair, giving the middle finger is part of Stone's DNA.  "you're not worthy..."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on August 22, 2018, 02:59:14 pm
so . . . I went back to Hopkins ordinary.  that, is all, I will say.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2018, 03:33:10 pm
I used to hang out in Sperryville.....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 23, 2018, 12:17:47 am
two new breweries (opening soon) in Silver Spring
astrolabbrewing.com
silverbranchbrewing.com

walking distance from FSS
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 27, 2018, 04:45:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 20, 2018, 09:42:36 am
We go to Fredericksburg once every couple of years to go tubing. There's never been a go to brewery there but i decided to do some research...it appeared that Red Dragon has some freakishly high scores on untappd for their fruited goses and some very good scores for their NEiPA's. I'm happy to report that the scores are well deserved.
I was passing through Fredericksburg this Sunday and decided to swing by and give Red Dragon a try
I had an Imperial IPA (in the NE vein) and a scrumptious stout
nice venue too
Would definitely go again
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 28, 2018, 08:20:41 am
Quote from: SEA-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on August 27, 2018, 04:45:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 20, 2018, 09:42:36 am
We go to Fredericksburg once every couple of years to go tubing. There's never been a go to brewery there but i decided to do some research...it appeared that Red Dragon has some freakishly high scores on untappd for their fruited goses and some very good scores for their NEiPA's. I'm happy to report that the scores are well deserved.
I was passing through Fredericksburg this Sunday and decided to swing by and give Red Dragon a try
I had an Imperial IPA (in the NE vein) and a scrumptious stout
nice venue too
Would definitely go again

Which DIPA and stout did you have?

We went tubing (rough waters!) Saturday and stopped by Red Dragon. Had the Imperial Red (Passion Fruit/Raspberry) Gose (amazing), the Oat something DIPA, the DDH DIPA, and the cinnamon/vanilla stout (all very good). The maple/chocolate stout that was "on deck" sounded tasty.

I'd rank their fruited goses right there with the Joose stuff from the Answer, and above the goses/berliners from Veil or Aslin. The DIPA's aren't quite as good as Aslin or Veil, but they're very good and much better than some of the beers I've tasted that call themselves NEIPA's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 28, 2018, 08:34:24 am
Where are you all going tubing near Fredericksburg? Do you recall the name of the company its through?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 28, 2018, 08:45:39 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 28, 2018, 08:34:24 am
Where are you all going tubing near Fredericksburg? Do you recall the name of the company its through?

Virginia Outdoor Center
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 28, 2018, 08:55:53 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 28, 2018, 08:20:41 am

Which DIPA and stout did you have?

the Oat something DIPA and The maple/chocolate stout
I regret not trying the gose/Bwiess, but was driving so could only sample soo much
should have gotten a few crowlers...next time
Quote from: Space Freely on August 28, 2018, 08:45:39 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 28, 2018, 08:34:24 am
Where are you all going tubing near Fredericksburg? Do you recall the name of the company its through?
Virginia Outdoor Center
Good tip and excuse to get down there with the family and 'oh look there is a brewery right by, let's just stop in for a pint :)"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 28, 2018, 10:19:59 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 28, 2018, 08:45:39 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 28, 2018, 08:34:24 am
Where are you all going tubing near Fredericksburg? Do you recall the name of the company its through?

Virginia Outdoor Center
Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 28, 2018, 04:11:45 pm
If you grew up in the NY area...you know who fudgie the whale is (or is that universal?)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40062183_10156027563458655_8528852713872556032_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=549c5e6165e4f79a43ce89c6c68d2424&oe=5C36561E)
kinda sounds disgusting...but the kitsch factor will make it move
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 29, 2018, 12:15:08 pm
speaking of breweries and tubing
for $99 (https://www.sourcedadventures.com/adventures/river-tubing-dc/) you get transport from downtown DC to Loudoun
3-hour river tubing experience down the beautiful Shenandoah and Potomac Rivers
BBQ lunch
a trip to Vanish Farmhouse Brewery and one free 5oz taster
then a trip back home

Groupon is doing this deal for $82 right now
https://www.groupon.com/deals/sourced-adventures-48
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 30, 2018, 02:00:37 pm
Pretty stellar brewery list, might have to attend my first beer fest.

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/41fc83_adc30c84c51549c6a9db959915de7811.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 31, 2018, 03:12:44 am
that is an insane lineup.  not sure i've ever seen anything better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 31, 2018, 09:22:33 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 31, 2018, 03:12:44 am
that is an insane lineup.  not sure i've ever seen anything better.

Well, there were the 9:30 Forum bottle shares...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 31, 2018, 12:24:43 pm
Just noticed The Truth and Raging Bitch are on sale at Safeway in Olney for 7.49.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 01, 2018, 09:48:18 am
Quote from: maryland man's son on August 31, 2018, 12:24:43 pm
Just noticed The Truth and Raging Bitch are on sale at Safeway in Olney for 7.49.

2013'd.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 03, 2018, 03:15:18 pm
Quote from: SEA-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on August 28, 2018, 08:55:53 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 28, 2018, 08:20:41 am
Red Dragon in Fredricksburg
the Oat something DIPA and The maple/chocolate stout
should have gotten a few crowlers...next time
Took the reco on the Gose and the Black Boysenberry was really good
also has the plum razz, but that BB was so good, it made that seem meh
Got a Crowler of the In the Drink DDH and that was super juicy

Also hit the Aslin pop up at the Nats Park finally and had their BoysenBerry, Blueberry & Blackberry Berliner weisse...it was good but made me think how much I liked that Red Dragon Black Boysenberry Gose
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 12, 2018, 12:59:18 pm
i know these guys aren't the most inspiring brwery out there, but for some reason i've always had a soft spot for them:

BUILD YOUR OWN IPA at Heavy Seas!
Saturday, September 15
11:00 am - 8:00 pm
Heavy Seas Beer
4615 Hollins Ferry Road
Halethorpe, MD 21227
http://hsbeer.com/happenings/eventDetail/ipa-bar (http://hsbeer.com/happenings/eventDetail/ipa-bar)

also, has anyone tried their TropiCannon (http://hsbeer.com/brews/brew/tropicannon)?

other HSB to possibly look out for: Great'er Pumpkin (http://hsbeer.com/brews/brew/greaterpumpkin) ( Bourbon Barrel-aged Imperial Pumpkin Ale, Sept-Oct) and Schnee Boot (http://hsbeer.com/brews/brew/schnee-boot) (Bourbon Barrel-Aged Eisbock, 13%)


if anyone comes across that eisbock, please grab some and let's talk... i'd be interested in a trade.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 17, 2018, 10:13:50 am
Aslin hosted an outstanding beer fest this weekend.

I probably sampled roughly 30 (not even touching over half of the additional beers there) absolutely crushing the Space Ounce to Cost ratio.

I have no negative feedback about the event and what was nice, there were minimal below average beers at the event, so getting beer was simple. There may have only been two to three beers that actually had lines longer than 10 people.

A few highlights...

Bottle Logic - Fundamental Observation
Red Dragon - Slurricane
Triple Crossing - Citra Triangles

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 17, 2018, 11:50:35 am
Quote from: Yada on September 17, 2018, 10:13:50 am
Aslin hosted an outstanding beer fest this weekend.

I probably sampled roughly 30 (not even touching over half of the additional beers there) absolutely crushing the Space Ounce to Cost ratio.

I have no negative feedback about the event and what was nice, there were minimal below average beers at the event, so getting beer was simple. There may have only been two to three beers that actually had lines longer than 10 people.

A few highlights...

Bottle Logic - Fundamental Observation
Red Dragon - Slurricane
Triple Crossing - Citra Triangles

My (poorer than me so probably even on a more strict ounce to cost ratio) brother is planning on visiting and going to Snallygaster with me. I wonder if we should have chosen the Aslin Fest instead?  Of course we would have had to had a designated driver for the Aslin thing whereas we can do public transport for Snally (or just sober up in the city).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 17, 2018, 12:20:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 17, 2018, 11:50:35 am
Quote from: Yada on September 17, 2018, 10:13:50 am
Aslin hosted an outstanding beer fest this weekend.

I probably sampled roughly 30 (not even touching over half of the additional beers there) absolutely crushing the Space Ounce to Cost ratio.

I have no negative feedback about the event and what was nice, there were minimal below average beers at the event, so getting beer was simple. There may have only been two to three beers that actually had lines longer than 10 people.

A few highlights...

Bottle Logic - Fundamental Observation
Red Dragon - Slurricane
Triple Crossing - Citra Triangles

My (poorer than me so probably even on a more strict ounce to cost ratio) brother is planning on visiting and going to Snallygaster with me. I wonder if we should have chosen the Aslin Fest instead?  Of course we would have had to had a designated driver for the Aslin thing whereas we can do public transport for Snally (or just sober up in the city).


$50 all you can drink vs. $50 and picking out drink tickets for pours sounds like an easy decision in terms of fiscal responsibility,  however the beer list at snally may be a bit better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 20, 2018, 09:25:47 am
Quote from: Yada on September 17, 2018, 12:20:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 17, 2018, 11:50:35 am
Quote from: Yada on September 17, 2018, 10:13:50 am
Aslin hosted an outstanding beer fest this weekend.

I probably sampled roughly 30 (not even touching over half of the additional beers there) absolutely crushing the Space Ounce to Cost ratio.

I have no negative feedback about the event and what was nice, there were minimal below average beers at the event, so getting beer was simple. There may have only been two to three beers that actually had lines longer than 10 people.

A few highlights...

Bottle Logic - Fundamental Observation
Red Dragon - Slurricane
Triple Crossing - Citra Triangles

My (poorer than me so probably even on a more strict ounce to cost ratio) brother is planning on visiting and going to Snallygaster with me. I wonder if we should have chosen the Aslin Fest instead?  Of course we would have had to had a designated driver for the Aslin thing whereas we can do public transport for Snally (or just sober up in the city).


$50 all you can drink vs. $50 and picking out drink tickets for pours sounds like an easy decision in terms of fiscal responsibility,  however the beer list at snally may be a bit better.

Problem is, I don't know if i can drink $50 worth of beer. Though at Churchkey prices, that won't be a problem.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 20, 2018, 09:26:55 am
Aslin moving their headquarters to Alexandria, 15 mins from my house. Woohoo. Also still planning a new Herndon location.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn8s71tDLLH/?utm_source=ig_embed
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2018, 09:35:23 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 20, 2018, 09:25:47 am
Quote from: Yada on September 17, 2018, 12:20:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 17, 2018, 11:50:35 am
Quote from: Yada on September 17, 2018, 10:13:50 am
Aslin hosted an outstanding beer fest this weekend.

I probably sampled roughly 30 (not even touching over half of the additional beers there) absolutely crushing the Space Ounce to Cost ratio.

I have no negative feedback about the event and what was nice, there were minimal below average beers at the event, so getting beer was simple. There may have only been two to three beers that actually had lines longer than 10 people.

A few highlights...

Bottle Logic - Fundamental Observation
Red Dragon - Slurricane
Triple Crossing - Citra Triangles

My (poorer than me so probably even on a more strict ounce to cost ratio) brother is planning on visiting and going to Snallygaster with me. I wonder if we should have chosen the Aslin Fest instead?  Of course we would have had to had a designated driver for the Aslin thing whereas we can do public transport for Snally (or just sober up in the city).


$50 all you can drink vs. $50 and picking out drink tickets for pours sounds like an easy decision in terms of fiscal responsibility,  however the beer list at snally may be a bit better.

Problem is, I don't know if i can drink $50 worth of beer. Though at Churchkey prices, that won't be a problem.

Yeah, you should be able to get five, 4oz pours for that price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2018, 09:49:20 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 20, 2018, 09:26:55 am
Aslin moving their headquarters to Alexandria, 15 mins from my house. Woohoo. Also still planning a new Herndon location.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn8s71tDLLH/?utm_source=ig_embed

So... The same news that's been circulating for basically a year and no real updates, great!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2018, 09:52:55 am
Had these beauties land on the doorstep the other night.


(https://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/26610/266106049e0f849cc2b980f0d73f18ef05753109.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 20, 2018, 12:17:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 09:52:55 am
Had these beauties land on the doorstep the other night.


(https://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/26610/266106049e0f849cc2b980f0d73f18ef05753109.jpg)

no image.... your upload game is weak:

(https://i.imgur.com/V4eQyO2.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 20, 2018, 12:26:40 pm
Img loaded for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2018, 01:17:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 20, 2018, 12:26:40 pm
Img loaded for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yup... sweetcell's internet game is weak.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 20, 2018, 01:21:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 09:49:20 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 20, 2018, 09:26:55 am
Aslin moving their headquarters to Alexandria, 15 mins from my house. Woohoo. Also still planning a new Herndon location.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn8s71tDLLH/?utm_source=ig_embed

So... The same news that's been circulating for basically a year and no real updates, great!
I didn't know about the Alexandria location!  less than 5 miles from my house and kinda bikable
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 20, 2018, 01:32:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 01:17:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 20, 2018, 12:26:40 pm
Img loaded for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yup... sweetcell's internet game is weak.
Sweetcell, I'll just describe the photo to you. There are 16 green glass bottles. They are not Perrier bottles. 12 of them had twist lids similar to Perrier bottles though. The other four have cheap-looking corks with cages like you'd see on champagne bottles. None of the bottles have been sabred though. There is also a mirror in the background which is slightly gauche and in the reflection in the mirror, is a light fixture which is full-on garish. Also the bottles have labels but you cannot read them. Oh, and the bottles are on a table which has a leaf.

Hope this helps. You are now up to date.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 20, 2018, 02:03:10 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 20, 2018, 01:32:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 01:17:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 20, 2018, 12:26:40 pm
Img loaded for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yup... sweetcell's internet game is weak.
Sweetcell, I'll just describe the photo to you. There are 16 green glass bottles. They are not Perrier bottles. 12 of them had twist lids similar to Perrier bottles though. The other four have cheap-looking corks with cages like you'd see on champagne bottles. None of the bottles have been sabred though. There is also a mirror in the background which is slightly gauche and in the reflection in the mirror, is a light fixture which is full-on garish. Also the bottles have labels but you cannot read them. Oh, and the bottles are on a table which has a leaf.

Hope this helps. You are now up to date.
You missed the walnut hardwood floor and white chair rail molding
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 20, 2018, 02:49:00 pm
Quote from: Saboteur-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on September 20, 2018, 02:03:10 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 20, 2018, 01:32:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 01:17:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 20, 2018, 12:26:40 pm
Img loaded for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yup... sweetcell's internet game is weak.
Sweetcell, I'll just describe the photo to you. There are 16 green glass bottles. They are not Perrier bottles. 12 of them had twist lids similar to Perrier bottles though. The other four have cheap-looking corks with cages like you'd see on champagne bottles. None of the bottles have been sabred though. There is also a mirror in the background which is slightly gauche and in the reflection in the mirror, is a light fixture which is full-on garish. Also the bottles have labels but you cannot read them. Oh, and the bottles are on a table which has a leaf.

Hope this helps. You are now up to date.
You missed the walnut hardwood floor and white chair rail molding
I was just trying to give him a sense, not write a goddamn book. Jeez!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 20, 2018, 02:59:51 pm
What beers are they? I have small laptop screen and 51 year old eyes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2018, 03:15:24 pm
IS THIS BETTER

SWEETCELL?? JAMES?? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CRITIQUE MY DINING AREA??

(https://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/26611/2661129194f0e8170ca49462daa6d82eeda52bc6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 20, 2018, 03:28:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 03:15:24 pm
IS THIS BETTER

SWEETCELL?? JAMES?? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CRITIQUE MY DINING AREA??

unfortunately i am in no more of a position to comment on this picture than i am on the first: that hosting site is still timing out on me.  i'm on a 250 Mbps corporate connection, with redundancy... still no dice.  perhaps your images are too awesome to make it over the rockies?  the Mississippi wants to keep them for itself?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 20, 2018, 03:41:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 20, 2018, 03:28:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 03:15:24 pm
IS THIS BETTER

SWEETCELL?? JAMES?? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CRITIQUE MY DINING AREA??

unfortunately i am in no more of a position to comment on this picture than i am on the first: that hosting site is still timing out on me.  i'm on a 250 Mbps corporate connection, with redundancy... still no dice.  perhaps your images are too awesome to make it over the rockies?  the Mississippi wants to keep them for itself?
Probably a time difference thing. Check again in three hours when the photo runs on the West Coast.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 20, 2018, 04:06:46 pm
I like the table and mirror
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 20, 2018, 05:05:01 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 03:15:24 pm
IS THIS BETTER
Much...you can actually read the labels now
so are you@beersnobing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 20, 2018, 06:05:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 20, 2018, 03:41:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 20, 2018, 03:28:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 03:15:24 pm
IS THIS BETTER

SWEETCELL?? JAMES?? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CRITIQUE MY DINING AREA??

unfortunately i am in no more of a position to comment on this picture than i am on the first: that hosting site is still timing out on me.  i'm on a 250 Mbps corporate connection, with redundancy... still no dice.  perhaps your images are too awesome to make it over the rockies?  the Mississippi wants to keep them for itself?
Probably a time difference thing. Check again in three hours when the photo runs on the West Coast.

this reply doesn't quite meet POTW eligibility criteria, but damn it put a smile on my face.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2018, 07:35:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 20, 2018, 06:05:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 20, 2018, 03:41:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 20, 2018, 03:28:05 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 20, 2018, 03:15:24 pm
IS THIS BETTER

SWEETCELL?? JAMES?? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CRITIQUE MY DINING AREA??

unfortunately i am in no more of a position to comment on this picture than i am on the first: that hosting site is still timing out on me.  i'm on a 250 Mbps corporate connection, with redundancy... still no dice.  perhaps your images are too awesome to make it over the rockies?  the Mississippi wants to keep them for itself?
Probably a time difference thing. Check again in three hours when the photo runs on the West Coast.

this reply doesn't quite meet POTW eligibility criteria, but damn it put a smile on my face.

Did it work?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 24, 2018, 10:05:46 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 31, 2018, 03:12:44 am
that is an insane lineup.  not sure i've ever seen anything better.

203 (maybe half?) of the beers listed here:

https://untappd.com/v/snallygaster-2018/431529

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 24, 2018, 10:10:37 am
A few times a year I hit Dominion Wine and Beer in Falls Church because they have a much more curated, organized beer selection than my local Total Wine.

I went there on Saturday and they were doing a soft opening of their tasting room. Liked it so much I went back with my wife Sunday. Nice little space with a dozen or so taps and wine by the glass. Saturday was better because they had the college football on mute and were playing classic rock. Sunday was the Washington Football Club game turned up loud (though the tv next to us had the Ravens game on, so it was a little weird be blasted with the play by play of a game that was not the one on display in front of you.).

Anyway, the tap selection was small but excellent. Maybe a dozen, and and included three Veil beers, two Aslin beers, KBS, and the aforementioned Citra Triangles.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 24, 2018, 10:27:54 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 24, 2018, 10:10:37 am
Dominion Wine and Beer in Falls Church because they have a much more curated, organized beer selection than my local Total Wine.
I went there on Saturday and they were doing a soft opening of their tasting room.
Thanks for the scene report and glad to hear this opened. 
That is such a great shop, with great selection and knowledgeable staff
the owner is connected as he was the only one getting Aslin on tap in the past
always has the best of the best of the 'local' breweries like Commonwealth, Crooked Run, triple crossing, The Veil, Hardywood, RAR...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2018, 10:57:40 am
Friends,

I'm heading on a beer journey including, but not limited to, and subject to change...

Brew Gentlemen > Dancing Gnome > Equilibrium > Hudson Valley Brewing > Suarez > Foam > Alchemist > Hill Farmstead

Expect pictures that don't load to be posted in the near future.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 25, 2018, 11:06:05 am
Quote from: Yada on September 25, 2018, 10:57:40 am
Friends,

I'm heading on a beer journey including, but not limited to, and subject to change...

Brew Gentlemen > Dancing Gnome > Equilibrium > Hudson Valley Brewing > Suarez > Foam > Alchemist > Hill Farmstead

Expect pictures that don't load to be posted in the near future.

Please post reviews of each place you go to as well. We're consider a trip that would include all but the first two (and possibly add a side trip to Tree House) next summer. Though at this point it's only an idea for a backup trip to a different trip that may or may not happen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2018, 11:17:11 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 25, 2018, 11:06:05 am
Quote from: Yada on September 25, 2018, 10:57:40 am
Friends,

I'm heading on a beer journey including, but not limited to, and subject to change...

Brew Gentlemen > Dancing Gnome > Equilibrium > Hudson Valley Brewing > Suarez > Foam > Alchemist > Hill Farmstead

Expect pictures that don't load to be posted in the near future.

 Though at this point it's only an idea for a backup trip to a different trip that may or may not happen.

Replace trip with show and that sounds like a killsally concert itinerary.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 01, 2018, 05:13:36 pm
Mountain.
Goat.
Beer.

https://www.dogfish.com/blog/best-ever-dark-munich-beer-out-milton
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 02, 2018, 12:27:48 pm
If anyone happens to be passing thru the Gulf Coast of Florida,  Sarasota in particular,  this is the place for you...


http://www.calusabrewing.com/on-tap

In the short time this brewery's been in business, the Focus IPA has been supplied to over 65 restaurants and bars from Venice to Tampa.  Hard to beat!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 03, 2018, 07:35:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 06:57:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2018, 02:37:42 pm
Also, took a gamble on Sapwood today... I think you may have mentioned a long time ago that was your buddy, I split the sour club with a few folks.

NICE!  please please report back on their offerings.  i'd sign up for their club in a heartbeat if i could.

i know both guys behind the project - Mike, who literally wrote the book on american sours (https://www.brewerspublications.com/collections/beer-styles/products/american-sour-beers-innovative-techniques-for-mixed-fermentations), and Scott, AKA Mr. Hop Science (http://scottjanish.com/).  those two have forgotten more about making good beer than most folks will ever learn.  if their commercial output is anything like their homebrews, y'all in for a treat.

Sapwood (https://sapwoodcellars.com/) is now open: Thur & Fri 4-10 PM, Sat Noon-10 PM. 

looking forward to reading a review (Space, you need to actually visit the place first).   

for the anoraks: blog post about brewing their APA (https://www.themadfermentationist.com/2018/10/rings-of-light-hazy-pale-ale.html)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2018, 09:24:41 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 03, 2018, 07:35:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 06:57:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2018, 02:37:42 pm
Also, took a gamble on Sapwood today... I think you may have mentioned a long time ago that was your buddy, I split the sour club with a few folks.

NICE!  please please report back on their offerings.  i'd sign up for their club in a heartbeat if i could.

i know both guys behind the project - Mike, who literally wrote the book on american sours (https://www.brewerspublications.com/collections/beer-styles/products/american-sour-beers-innovative-techniques-for-mixed-fermentations), and Scott, AKA Mr. Hop Science (http://scottjanish.com/).  those two have forgotten more about making good beer than most folks will ever learn.  if their commercial output is anything like their homebrews, y'all in for a treat.

Sapwood (https://sapwoodcellars.com/) is now open: Thur & Fri 4-10 PM, Sat Noon-10 PM. 

looking forward to reading a review (Space, you need to actually visit the place first).   

for the anoraks: blog post about brewing their APA (https://www.themadfermentationist.com/2018/10/rings-of-light-hazy-pale-ale.html)
Haha, it's definitely on the hit list. Definitely sounds promising. Planner that i am, won't be until November or December. Looking forward to it. We'll probably combine it with a visit to the new Union Craft facility, along with a visit to, um, er, the new Guinness facility in Baltimore County.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2018, 09:28:23 pm
After an eight mile hike in Harper's Ferry on Saturday, we detoured on the way home to hit Waredeca and Brookeville Beer Farm. Both had decent to good beer and fun family atmosphere, as previously mentioned on this thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 10:00:06 pm
Maybe it's just me, but people who bring kids to bars or breweries or wineries, are obviously, drunks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2018, 10:43:18 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 10:00:06 pm
Maybe it's just me, but people who bring kids to bars or breweries or wineries, are obviously, drunks.
[/quote

Space:
Most nights i split a 16 oz can of beer with my wife. So yeah, guilty as charged.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 11:11:27 pm
In other words, every one else doesn't want your brats there.  You fucked, had kids, deal with it.  Stop burdening every one else with your problems.  Can't we have one place on earth, where kids have to stay the fuck out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2018, 11:45:39 pm
Well I don’t know
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2018, 01:28:31 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 11:11:27 pm
In other words, every one else doesn't want your brats there.  You fucked, had kids, deal with it.  Stop burdening every one else with your problems.  Can't we have one place on earth, where kids have to stay the fuck out.

kids are people too, they have a right to be there, if you don't like the people in a public place then fuck on off back to your cave.

now can we work on finding a middle ground? ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2018, 07:42:08 am
Let’s think about how countries that don’t seem to have the huge alcohol problems of the United States do it....I mean in France or Italy no parent would think to leave kids home before going to a vineyard and kids would be exposed to alcohol at a young age.


On the other hands America’s sudden adoption of a kidcentric focus in everything married with the entitlement kids have is annoying. It has been a seachange the past two decades
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 04, 2018, 08:29:49 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 10:00:06 pm
Maybe it's just me, but people who bring kids to bars or breweries or wineries, are obviously, drunks.
it's just you...you stink of DINK entitlement
No one is forcing you to go to those establishments...maybe you are the drunk?

Quote from: hutch on October 04, 2018, 07:42:08 am
On the other hands America’s sudden adoption of a kidcentric focus in everything married with the entitlement kids have is annoying. It has been a seachange the past two decades
I can't argue with this, similar to how people now think it's OK to bring your dog everywhere
I remember being in SF and this woman got in an all out shouting match with the proprietor because she couldn't bring her 'well behaved dog' in to the restaurant
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 04, 2018, 08:45:03 am
Quote from: Ye-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 04, 2018, 08:29:49 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 10:00:06 pm
Maybe it's just me, but people who bring kids to bars or breweries or wineries, are obviously, drunks.
it's just you...you stink of DINK entitlement

No, man, it's not just him. Stinking of DINKism and telling people they're shitty parents seems very much on the Julian brand.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 04, 2018, 08:45:55 am
Quote from: Ye-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 04, 2018, 08:29:49 am
similar to how people now think it's OK to bring your dog everywhere
Dogs are the fucking worst. Try having a real interpersonal relationship, shitbags.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 10:46:23 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 11:11:27 pm
In other words, every one else doesn't want your brats there.  You fucked, had kids, deal with it.  Stop burdening every one else with your problems.  Can't we have one place on earth, where kids have to stay the fuck out.

How about the Crew Club?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 04, 2018, 11:09:51 am
I have a symphony happy hour event at Hardywood tonite. What beer should I drink, people? I'm crowdsourcing this decision to you, the wise beer elders.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 04, 2018, 11:19:21 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 04, 2018, 11:09:51 am
I have a symphony happy hour event at Hardywood tonite. What beer should I drink, people? I'm crowdsourcing this decision to you, the wise beer elders.
If I were going...I'd try these

But Does It Make Sense?
IPA - Imperial / Double New England
8.5%

Drink of Me Fondly
Bière de Champagne / Bière Brut
4.1%


and only one of these three

Maple Cassowary
Stout - Imperial Milk / Sweet
11.6%

Cassowary
Stout - Imperial Milk / Sweet
11.0%

Hoax
Stout - Imperial Milk / Sweet
13.5%
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 04, 2018, 11:21:42 am
What is a Biere de Champagne?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 11:24:31 am
I'd go with the But Does it Make Sense NEDIPA and the Tropic Like It's Hot sour ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 04, 2018, 11:31:11 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 04, 2018, 11:21:42 am
What is a Biere de Champagne?
sounds like a good fit for Julian's America


Bière de Champagne / Bière Brut
First brewed in Belgium, Bière de Champagne or Bière Brut typically undergo a lengthy maturation. Some are even cave-aged in the Champagne region of France and are then subjected to remuage and dégorgement, which is the "methode de champenoise" process of removing yeast from the bottle. Most are delicate, high in alcohol, and highly carbonated.The color of Bière de Champagne can range from very pale gold to a darker pale amber. Often presented in 750 mililiter champagne-style corked and caged bottles.

ABV: 6.0-12.0% | IBU: 10–35 | Glassware: Flute
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 04, 2018, 11:42:07 am
At least we don't have to worry about walky procreating and bringing more negativity into this world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on October 04, 2018, 11:42:12 am
I wonder what kind of beer Brett Kavanaugh likes. I bet he drinks Amstel Light.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 04, 2018, 11:43:22 am
Quote from: ggw on October 04, 2018, 11:42:12 am
I wonder what kind of beer Brett Kavanaugh likes. I bet he drinks Amstel Light.

Seems like a good possibility... or a sam adams lager if he's feeling wacky.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 11:47:22 am
Quote from: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 04, 2018, 11:31:11 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 04, 2018, 11:21:42 am
What is a Biere de Champagne?
sounds like a good fit for Julian's America


Bière de Champagne / Bière Brut
First brewed in Belgium, Bière de Champagne or Bière Brut typically undergo a lengthy maturation. Some are even cave-aged in the Champagne region of France and are then subjected to remuage and dégorgement, which is the "methode de champenoise" process of removing yeast from the bottle. Most are delicate, high in alcohol, and highly carbonated.The color of Bière de Champagne can range from very pale gold to a darker pale amber. Often presented in 750 mililiter champagne-style corked and caged bottles.

ABV: 6.0-12.0% | IBU: 10–35 | Glassware: Flute

That one at Hardywood isn't exactly burning the house down with it's untapped score. And also, just say NO to imperial stouts on 90 degree days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 11:50:12 am
Quote from: ggw on October 04, 2018, 11:42:12 am
I wonder what kind of beer Brett Kavanaugh likes. I bet he drinks Amstel Light.

Didn't you attend any parties with him in your youth?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 04, 2018, 12:05:01 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 04, 2018, 11:21:42 am
What is a Biere de Champagne?

Or you could go with DFH Mixed Media. Kinda like ale+pinot grigio


Definitely a champagne vibe
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 04, 2018, 12:13:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 11:50:12 am
Quote from: ggw on October 04, 2018, 11:42:12 am
I wonder what kind of beer Brett Kavanaugh likes. I bet he drinks Amstel Light.

Didn't you attend any parties with him in your youth?
If it isn’t on the calendar, it didn’t happen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2018, 12:33:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 04, 2018, 11:43:22 am
Quote from: ggw on October 04, 2018, 11:42:12 am
I wonder what kind of beer Brett Kavanaugh likes. I bet he drinks Amstel Light.

Seems like a good possibility... or a sam adams lager if he's feeling wacky.

Corona. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2018, 12:40:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 11:47:22 am
And also, just say NO to imperial stouts on 90 degree days.

eff that advice.  drink whatever you want. 

I get that a thick, syrupy 13% beer might not be the first thing folks reach for when it's 90*F, but still...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2018, 02:43:15 pm
Heineken would have been the preppy beer back then....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 02:50:33 pm
Quote from: hutch on October 04, 2018, 02:43:15 pm
Heineken would have been the preppy beer back then....

Speaking of Heineken

Lagunitas Brewing Co., a Heineken-owned brewing company with headquarters in Petaluma, announced Tuesday that it would be laying off 12 percent of its workforce. The brewery cited a "retrenchment of the American craft beer market" as the reason for the layoffs, the Santa Rosa Press Democrat reported.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 04, 2018, 04:15:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 10:46:23 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 11:11:27 pm
In other words, every one else doesn't want your brats there.  You fucked, had kids, deal with it.  Stop burdening every one else with your problems.  Can't we have one place on earth, where kids have to stay the fuck out.

How about the Crew Club?

Why, would you ask that?  You like fucking kids?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 04:22:22 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 04, 2018, 04:15:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 10:46:23 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 11:11:27 pm
In other words, every one else doesn't want your brats there.  You fucked, had kids, deal with it.  Stop burdening every one else with your problems.  Can't we have one place on earth, where kids have to stay the fuck out.

How about the Crew Club?

Why, would you ask that?  You like fucking kids?

I like kids in breweries, yes.

You asked for one place on earth where kids have to stay the fuck out. So that was my suggestion. I could have additionally named a number of different strip clubs, swingers clubs, etc.

I agree that there are places where kids shouldn't be allowed. Breweries aren't one of those places.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 04, 2018, 05:08:10 pm
I bring both my dog and my child into bars/wine bars, but always respect the wishes of a proprietor who doesn't want them there.  I tend to frequent places that allow for them more often, so I vote with my wallet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2018, 06:42:51 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 04, 2018, 05:08:10 pm
I bring both my dog and my child into bars/wine bars, but always respect the wishes of a proprietor who doesn't want them there.

we haven't specified this yet, but yes - we're only talking about places that accept children.  if a venue has a "no children allowed", "must be over 21", etc. policy then obviously kids don't belong.  should someone show up to that sort of a place with kids in tow, then indignation is an understandable response.  was is this specific situation that got your drawers in a knot, walkies?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 04, 2018, 07:44:19 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 04, 2018, 05:08:10 pm
I bring both my dog and my child into bars/wine bars, but always respect the wishes of a proprietor who doesn't want them there.  I tend to frequent places that allow for them more often, so I vote with my wallet.

You have a child now? Congrats.

This is how i feel. Though my dog is too poorly behaved. We tried to bring him a couple of times but he's just too crazy. My kid has always been pretty well behaved in public.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 04, 2018, 09:36:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 04, 2018, 06:42:51 pm
Quote from: vansmack on October 04, 2018, 05:08:10 pm
I bring both my dog and my child into bars/wine bars, but always respect the wishes of a proprietor who doesn't want them there.

we haven't specified this yet, but yes - we're only talking about places that accept children.  if a venue has a "no children allowed", "must be over 21", etc. policy then obviously kids don't belong.  should someone show up to that sort of a place with kids in tow, then indignation is an understandable response.  was is this specific situation that got your drawers in a know, walkies?

You're just noticing now that walky is the grumpiest old bastard ever?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2018, 09:19:12 am
He is grumpy sometimes and elated/friendly at others...


Sounds like alcoholism
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 05, 2018, 02:39:12 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 04, 2018, 12:33:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 04, 2018, 11:43:22 am
Quote from: ggw on October 04, 2018, 11:42:12 am
I wonder what kind of beer Brett Kavanaugh likes. I bet he drinks Amstel Light.

Seems like a good possibility... or a sam adams lager if he's feeling wacky.

Corona. 

apparently he's more of a PBR guy?

Anti-Kavanaugh Protesters Hold 'Confirmation Kegger' Outside Mitch McConnell's House Ahead of Vote  (https://www.newsweek.com/anti-kavanaugh-protesters-confirmation-kegger-outside-mitch-mcconnell-house-1154896)
Brett Kavanaugh Protesters Bring Beer, Chant ‘Chug’ Outside Mitch McConnell’s House (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-protesters-bring-beer-chant-chug-outside-mitch-mcconnells-house_us_5bb75543e4b028e1fe3cdc5a)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 05, 2018, 02:46:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 05, 2018, 02:39:12 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 04, 2018, 12:33:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 04, 2018, 11:43:22 am
Quote from: ggw on October 04, 2018, 11:42:12 am
I wonder what kind of beer Brett Kavanaugh likes. I bet he drinks Amstel Light.

Seems like a good possibility... or a sam adams lager if he's feeling wacky.

Corona. 

apparently he's more of a PBR guy?

Anti-Kavanaugh Protesters Hold 'Confirmation Kegger' Outside Mitch McConnell's House Ahead of Vote  (https://www.newsweek.com/anti-kavanaugh-protesters-confirmation-kegger-outside-mitch-mcconnell-house-1154896)
Brett Kavanaugh Protesters Bring Beer, Chant ‘Chug’ Outside Mitch McConnell’s House (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-protesters-bring-beer-chant-chug-outside-mitch-mcconnells-house_us_5bb75543e4b028e1fe3cdc5a)

I wonder if stories like this, and the different stories of chasing Cruz, Sanders, Nielsen, etc. out of restaurants will end up helping or hurting the Democratic cause come next month.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 05, 2018, 02:54:33 pm
i don't see this "kegger protest" as doing much either way.

but chasing GOP'ers out of restaurants hurts the Dems, IMO.  the lack of civility upsets people, gets 'em fired up.  and those confrontations are hollow victories for the left... at best, you interrupted their dinner?  woopee.  you let them know you disagree with them?  you think they didn't already know that?  in my view, they're firing up the right with nothing to show for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2018, 03:01:52 pm
Well that’s not the point is it?


The point is that is what people do when they feel government is completely broken and non responsive
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ggw on October 05, 2018, 03:11:45 pm
They're all funded by George Soros. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2018, 03:23:08 pm
In the end Kavanaugh is being confirmed

Not a huge shock

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 08, 2018, 05:37:32 pm
Cloudburst won a medal at GABF, and their head brewer wore a "fuck AB-INBev" shirt on stage (https://www.joshnoel.net/blog/2018/10/5/cloudburst-brewing-seattle-abi-tshirt) while accepting his prize.

a book that i hadn't heard of until now: "Barrel-Aged Stout and Selling Out: Goose Island, Anheuser-Busch and How Craft Beer Became Big Business"
https://www.joshnoel.net/barrel-aged-stout-and-selling-out/ (https://www.joshnoel.net/barrel-aged-stout-and-selling-out/)
https://www.amazon.com/Barrel-Aged-Stout-Selling-Out-Anheuser-Busch/dp/1613737211 (https://www.amazon.com/Barrel-Aged-Stout-Selling-Out-Anheuser-Busch/dp/1613737211)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 11, 2018, 09:25:58 pm
TL; DR - 2,500 miles later and this stack of beer*

(https://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/26688/266881733679650ecda39c53dc9ec888162d3203.jpg)

TL:

Dancing Gnome - Great brewery, snagged some cans, love hitting up this spot

Brew Gentlemen - Great brewery, food trucks, growlers only, have been there a bunch, and had too much other beer to hunt down

Equilibrium - Nothing to speak of other than the beer which was actually the best hops of the entire week. Raining Belma is what Treehouse used to taste like, just perfection.

Shitty town, shitty parking lot, no way to sample their beer, a few giant pear shaped dudes and myself waiting for beer. Phish playing on the blue tooth speaker. An ongoing feud with the bar literally connected to the brewery keeps them from serving there, which is just ridiculous.

Hudson Valley Brewing - Overall the best beer of the trip, definitely making the most unique beer that I have had access to in recent months. Everything just works. Loaded up on a bunch of cans, less than 10 people hanging in the brewery all evening, hand about 8 tasters. For the first time in weeks cans lasted through the week so I was lucky to get a good amount.

Fiddlehead - I was there less than 10 mins to just grab cans. Under contstruction, no one there, I'm actually surprised they're still surviving in the beer nirvana up there.

Foam - Coolest and funnest brewery of the trip, however, the beer in my opinion was a bit of a let down. All of the haze tasted the same and really tasted pretty green/hot. Killer tunes and great vibe right on lake Champlain. Playlist included Can, Talking Heads, Miles, Phish, Hendrix, Beastie Boys, etc. I had very high hopes, but all in all, I think I'm hazed out.

Alchemist - I had to go for old time's sack, but Heady just ain't what it used to be for me. Malty, bitter, etc... Crazy that a few years ago this was the DIPA that everyone died for. Beautiful new brewery, free samples of Crusher, Focal, and Heady. No music, and the average age was 55+. We stuck around for about 20 mins and grabbed some beers to go.

*All beer was kept at 85 degrees in a van 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 11, 2018, 09:53:51 pm
I see some Vinyl in the back there...

I can't seem to figure out the math of time and finances AND kids to live your beer lifestyle
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 11, 2018, 10:29:41 pm
Quote from: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 11, 2018, 09:53:51 pm
I see some Vinyl in the back there...

I can't seem to figure out the math of time and finances AND kids to live your beer lifestyle

I could say the same about your show going life-style... At any rate, to answer a few parts of your question... that beer isn't even close to all mine, split by roughly 8ish people. I probably spent $150 max.

We were on a week long FAMILY vacation in Lake Placid/Burlington that I drove to and from.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 11, 2018, 10:53:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 11, 2018, 10:29:41 pm
split by roughly 8ish people.
now that makes a lot more sense...as I priced that table at around $1000

Let's be clear, I'm more envious than judgemental on this topic
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 11, 2018, 11:52:24 pm
Yada bring some to the boat party!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 12, 2018, 08:12:43 am
Quote from: hutch on October 11, 2018, 11:52:24 pm
Yada bring some to the boat party!

I didn't get an invite,  but I'll be at Nick Cave so I expect an invite soon.

I'll bring the chocolate covered coffee beans too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2018, 08:18:10 am
Quote from: Yada on October 12, 2018, 08:12:43 am
I didn't get an invite,  but I'll be at Nick Cave so I expect an invite soon.

kinda thought this counted as an invite
Quote from: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 11, 2018, 08:58:08 am
with that said...Pre-Show yacht rocking scheduled for Nick Cave...PM for details

but if you want one in the mail with as S.A.S.E. I can work on that
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2018, 11:58:10 pm
y'all really need to get on this:

(http://3starsbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/HopFunkFest_Web.jpg)
 
3 Stars presents: HOPFUNKFEST III
Sun. October 21st
1pm-7pm
We are at it again, bringing some of the best beers in the country right into DC’s back yard.

We will be showcasing tons of hop forward and sour beers in a celebration of everything delicious. Food vendors, live music performances and so much more. We have limited the number of tickets available this time around to cut down on lines.

This event will sell out and there will be no door tickets.

General Admission:
Tickets are $10 for GA which gains you entrance, a custom glass, and your first 2 drink tickets.

VIP
There are also a limited quantity of VIP experience packages which will get you into the event an hour before GA (12pm start time for VIP), a VIP giftbag, and 4 additional drink tickets, plus a limited release 4-pack, these packages are $50 and available on a first come, first served basis.

All tickets are non-transferable and non-refundable. .  .


http://3starsbrewing.com/events/ (http://3starsbrewing.com/events/)
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/hopfunk-fest-iii-tickets-50755737778 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/hopfunk-fest-iii-tickets-50755737778)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 15, 2018, 09:42:06 am
Have been drinking Sip of Sunshine and Super Session #7 myself since picking some up in NY after the Wineglass Marathon!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 15, 2018, 11:01:47 am
Anybody else hit up Snallygaster on Saturday? We took Metro in. We had to switch trains on the way home, and as soon as the train door opened, one person in our party flew out the door and projectile vomited on the platform several time. Another person had to pee so bad that they urinated on the platform. This was my first beer festival, I guess now I know what they are all about.

*Note: Neither of the two people mentioned were me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 15, 2018, 11:08:21 am
Quote from: Yada on October 11, 2018, 09:25:58 pm
TL; DR - 2,500 miles later and this stack of beer*


TL:

Dancing Gnome - Great brewery, snagged some cans, love hitting up this spot

Brew Gentlemen - Great brewery, food trucks, growlers only, have been there a bunch, and had too much other beer to hunt down

Equilibrium - Nothing to speak of other than the beer which was actually the best hops of the entire week. Raining Belma is what Treehouse used to taste like, just perfection.

Shitty town, shitty parking lot, no way to sample their beer, a few giant pear shaped dudes and myself waiting for beer. Phish playing on the blue tooth speaker. An ongoing feud with the bar literally connected to the brewery keeps them from serving there, which is just ridiculous.

Hudson Valley Brewing - Overall the best beer of the trip, definitely making the most unique beer that I have had access to in recent months. Everything just works. Loaded up on a bunch of cans, less than 10 people hanging in the brewery all evening, hand about 8 tasters. For the first time in weeks cans lasted through the week so I was lucky to get a good amount.

Fiddlehead - I was there less than 10 mins to just grab cans. Under contstruction, no one there, I'm actually surprised they're still surviving in the beer nirvana up there.

Foam - Coolest and funnest brewery of the trip, however, the beer in my opinion was a bit of a let down. All of the haze tasted the same and really tasted pretty green/hot. Killer tunes and great vibe right on lake Champlain. Playlist included Can, Talking Heads, Miles, Phish, Hendrix, Beastie Boys, etc. I had very high hopes, but all in all, I think I'm hazed out.

Alchemist - I had to go for old time's sack, but Heady just ain't what it used to be for me. Malty, bitter, etc... Crazy that a few years ago this was the DIPA that everyone died for. Beautiful new brewery, free samples of Crusher, Focal, and Heady. No music, and the average age was 55+. We stuck around for about 20 mins and grabbed some beers to go.

*All beer was kept at 85 degrees in a van

Nice. No stop at Suarez?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 15, 2018, 11:43:10 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 15, 2018, 11:01:47 am
*Note: Neither of the two people mentioned were me.
guilt by association
great review of the event tho...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 15, 2018, 11:52:04 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 15, 2018, 11:01:47 am
Anybody else hit up Snallygaster on Saturday? We took Metro in. We had to switch trains on the way home, and as soon as the train door opened, one person in our party flew out the door and projectile vomited on the platform several time. Another person had to pee so bad that they urinated on the platform. This was my first beer festival, I guess now I know what they are all about.

so you tasted dozens of beers, possibly along with interesting food, got to nerd out with thousands of other beer geeks, had a good time for several hours... but the experience is defined 2 individuals acting out of bounds? ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 15, 2018, 01:14:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 15, 2018, 11:52:04 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 15, 2018, 11:01:47 am
Anybody else hit up Snallygaster on Saturday? We took Metro in. We had to switch trains on the way home, and as soon as the train door opened, one person in our party flew out the door and projectile vomited on the platform several time. Another person had to pee so bad that they urinated on the platform. This was my first beer festival, I guess now I know what they are all about.

so you tasted dozens of beers, possibly along with interesting food, got to nerd out with thousands of other beer geeks, had a good time for several hours... but the experience is defined 2 individuals acting out of bounds? ;D
You went to GwarBQ too?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 15, 2018, 01:20:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 15, 2018, 11:52:04 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 15, 2018, 11:01:47 am
Anybody else hit up Snallygaster on Saturday? We took Metro in. We had to switch trains on the way home, and as soon as the train door opened, one person in our party flew out the door and projectile vomited on the platform several time. Another person had to pee so bad that they urinated on the platform. This was my first beer festival, I guess now I know what they are all about.

so you tasted dozens of beers, possibly along with interesting food, got to nerd out with thousands of other beer geeks, had a good time for several hours... but the experience is defined 2 individuals acting out of bounds? ;D

Honestly those will be the two things etched in my mind forever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 15, 2018, 01:21:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 15, 2018, 11:52:04 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 15, 2018, 11:01:47 am
Anybody else hit up Snallygaster on Saturday? We took Metro in. We had to switch trains on the way home, and as soon as the train door opened, one person in our party flew out the door and projectile vomited on the platform several time. Another person had to pee so bad that they urinated on the platform. This was my first beer festival, I guess now I know what they are all about.

so you tasted dozens of beers, possibly along with interesting food, got to nerd out with thousands of other beer geeks, had a good time for several hours... but the experience is defined 2 individuals acting out of bounds? ;D
Sweets, I didn't know you went to SG...were you the urnaitor or the Puker?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2018, 02:06:01 am
in case climate change wasn't meaningful to you yet:

Climate change to cause global beer shortage, study says
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/health/beer-barley-climate-change-study/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/health/beer-barley-climate-change-study/index.html)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 16, 2018, 07:55:22 am
Favorite Snallygaster beers:

Crooked Stave Mama Bear Sour Cherry Pie Woodford Reserve Rye (Wild ale)
American Solera Blackberry Year Two Blend (Wild ale)
Other Half DDH Other Half Double Mosaic (DIPA)
Other Half Rice Proxy Treats (Imp Stout)
The Veil BBA Circle of Wolves (Barleywine)
Firestone Walker Coconut Rye Parabola (Imp Stout)
Southern Grist Strawberry Upside Down Cake (milkshake IPA)
Red Dragon Imperial Thus Passion (sour ale)

Disappointments:

The Cantillon on draft wasn't nearly as good as from a bottle
Founders CBS is still way too much of a sweet mess for me
I want to stick with the sentimental favorites, but Focal Banger from a can was good but if I went to VT I'd probably buy just a four pack and not the max.

The lobster roll was tasty. They gave my daughter* a VIP laminate which allowed her to get some free food samples. The Pietasters were fun as always. My wife and daughter called the festival "a complete waste of time."

The end.

*she was not the puker or urinator


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2018, 12:26:37 pm
sounds like fun.  that was a solid flight of tasters.  i'd love to try the  Coconut Rye Parabola.

what was the cantillon they had on tap?  just their standard gueuze?

Quote from: Space Freely on October 16, 2018, 07:55:22 am
My wife and daughter called the festival "a complete waste of time."

really?  based on the social medias, the wife seemed to be enjoying herself...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 16, 2018, 02:32:54 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 16, 2018, 12:26:37 pm
sounds like fun.  that was a solid flight of tasters.  i'd love to try the  Coconut Rye Parabola.

what was the cantillon they had on tap?  just their standard gueuze?

Quote from: Space Freely on October 16, 2018, 07:55:22 am
My wife and daughter called the festival "a complete waste of time."

really?  based on the social medias, the wife seemed to be enjoying herself...

Yeah, my wife is fickle like that.  ;)

The Cantillons were: St Lamvinus, Nath,  Rose de Gambrinus, and Vignerrone. They all appeared to be on fraft. Conversely, the Drie Fontenein was poured from bottles.

Another one I really liked was the Horus Menush.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 19, 2018, 09:30:48 am
Has anyone seen Sixpoint Meltdown on the shelves yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 21, 2018, 11:08:36 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 14, 2018, 11:58:10 pm
y'all really need to get on this:

(http://3starsbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/HopFunkFest_Web.jpg)
 
3 Stars presents: HOPFUNKFEST III
Sun. October 21st
1pm-7pm
We are at it again, bringing some of the best beers in the country right into DC’s back yard.

We will be showcasing tons of hop forward and sour beers in a celebration of everything delicious. Food vendors, live music performances and so much more. We have limited the number of tickets available this time around to cut down on lines.

This event will sell out and there will be no door tickets.

General Admission:
Tickets are $10 for GA which gains you entrance, a custom glass, and your first 2 drink tickets.

VIP
There are also a limited quantity of VIP experience packages which will get you into the event an hour before GA (12pm start time for VIP), a VIP giftbag, and 4 additional drink tickets, plus a limited release 4-pack, these packages are $50 and available on a first come, first served basis.

All tickets are non-transferable and non-refundable. .  .


http://3starsbrewing.com/events/ (http://3starsbrewing.com/events/)
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/hopfunk-fest-iii-tickets-50755737778 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/hopfunk-fest-iii-tickets-50755737778)

Full beer list now published at above links. Low ticket warming. Today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 22, 2018, 02:31:08 pm
Merdian Pint coming out to Arlington!
https://www.arlnow.com/2018/10/18/meridian-pint-aims-to-open-first-arlington-location-in-dominion-hills-by-spring-2019/
in the Dominion Hills Centre shopping plaza.....somewhat related

this is were the infamous Nazi party Arlington meet up  was last year
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/25/shocking-neo-nazis-fly-swastika-salute-at-shopping-center-where-leader-was-killed/?utm_term=.085a875b32da

where the American Nazi Party, whose founder, George Lincoln Rockwell, was shot to death at the Dominion Hills Centre on Aug. 25, 1967.


But in better news...they are rebuilding the Powhattan springs skate park across the street
The Powhatan Springs Skate Park ...hopefully opening in spring 2019
Not sure why they had to tear down the old one...but the new one looks killer

(https://s26551.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Screen-Shot-2018-05-14-at-9.34.39-AM-630x420.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 22, 2018, 05:46:27 pm
Cool...that is a mile from me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 23, 2018, 03:10:30 pm
churchkey is hosting some ridiculous events... full details here (https://mailchi.mp/birchandbarley/savor-week-dc-2017-begins-right-here-right-now-1536253)

TONIGHT: AN EVENING WITH THE BRUERY
Meet & Greet with Founder Patrick Rue
Tuesday, October 23rd at 4 PM
(lots of bruery barrel-aged weirdness)

NIGHT OF THE LIVING ALES: PART 8
40 Bone Chilling Wild & Funky Ales
Wednesday, October 31st at 4 PM
(crooked stave, hill farmstead, jester king, lost abbey sours, and a whole lot more)

FOUNDERS CBS 2018 RELEASE PARTY!
Friday, November 2nd at 4 PM
(with KBS and several other founders rarities)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 24, 2018, 07:05:44 pm
national brand beers i've been enjoying recently:

- Lagunitas: Mozango (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/183011/): probably the best fruited IPA i've ever had (ok, that's not the highest praise i can give a beer since i'm generally pretty meh on fruit in my IPAs).  noze is amazing.  mosaic hops already bring the mango, so adding actual fruit turns it up to 11.  at $5/bomber i will be stocking up on my next grocery shopping trip.
- Rogue: Dead'n'Dead (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/132/302012/): dead guy ale aged in dead guy whiskey barrels.  frikken fantastic.  big malt bomb with a really nice whiskey heat finish.  decently priced too, 8 or 9 bucks/bomber.  costco on market st NE supposedly has some in stock.

national brand beer that i drain-poured after two sips:

- Rogue: Combat Wombat (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/132/333318/).  some sour IPAs are really good and some are merely OK, but this was the first one that i've had that was downright undrinkable.  i wonder if i got a bad bottle, since reviews on BA seem to be quite positive.  YMMV?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 24, 2018, 08:29:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 24, 2018, 07:05:44 pm
- Lagunitas: Mozango (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/183011/):
was super happy with this on tap the other night...very crush-able
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 24, 2018, 09:27:45 pm
Speaking of Lagunitas...

I've been on a steady diet of Aslin, the Veil, Other Half, Grimm, Charles Town Fermentory, and Civil Society for the past 12 months but figured i still needed some Lagunitas Born Yesterday based on past pleasures.

Well I'm here to report it's a much better value than the aformentioned beers, but based on quality, they should call it Lagunitas Sucks. Or Heineken Hoppy. West Coast IPA's just don't do it for me anymore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2018, 08:05:36 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 24, 2018, 09:27:45 pm
Civil Society
are you finding that in cans around here?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2018, 08:18:01 am
Tell me that meant to go in the RIP thread
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2018, 09:49:22 am
good one!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 12:53:29 pm
My wife loved Fremont and hated Reuben's.

Must have been the fact that she was with me when she was at Fremont and without me when she was at Reuben's.

I haven't been to Reuben's so can't comment. I really love the atmosphere at Fremont, been there at the new location as well as the original. But honestly I think I drank a guest mead the last time I was there and didn't have any of their stuff. I think their standards are meh but their specials are fantastic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 25, 2018, 01:44:28 pm
Quote from: Unquotable-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 24, 2018, 08:29:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 24, 2018, 07:05:44 pm
- Lagunitas: Mozango (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/183011/):
was super happy with this on tap the other night...very crush-able

Thanks for the heads up.  Sounds great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 03:53:25 pm
Quote from: Unquotable-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 24, 2018, 08:29:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 24, 2018, 07:05:44 pm
- Lagunitas: Mozango (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/183011/):
was super happy with this on tap the other night...very crush-able

A 7.7% abv crushable DIPA, lol.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 03:55:26 pm
Quote from: Unquotable-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 25, 2018, 08:05:36 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 24, 2018, 09:27:45 pm
Civil Society
are you finding that in cans around here?

Nope not around here. We drove to Florida (Civil Society) and South Carolina (Charles Town Fementory) for Spring Break, and Brooklyn (Other Half and Grimm) for July 4 weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2018, 04:10:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 03:55:26 pm
Other Half and Grimm
I've seen these in cans an on tap around here, but the only time I had Civil was in south Floridia
it's soo good, wish they had some up here
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 25, 2018, 05:05:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 03:53:25 pm
Quote from: Unquotable-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 24, 2018, 08:29:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 24, 2018, 07:05:44 pm
- Lagunitas: Mozango (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/183011/):
was super happy with this on tap the other night...very crush-able

A 7.7% abv crushable DIPA, lol.

so this might blow your mind, but: it's true.  i crushed my first glass in like 3 takes.  sipped the second half of the bomber, only because i made a point of slowing down.  easily could have mainlined the whole thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 25, 2018, 05:40:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 25, 2018, 05:05:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 03:53:25 pm
Quote from: Unquotable-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 24, 2018, 08:29:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 24, 2018, 07:05:44 pm
- Lagunitas: Mozango (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/183011/):
was super happy with this on tap the other night...very crush-able

A 7.7% abv crushable DIPA, lol.

so this might blow your mind, but: it's true.  i crushed my first glass in like 3 takes.  sipped the second half of the bomber, only because i made a point of slowing down.  easily could have mainlined the whole thing.
What was the cost per minute of that beer interaction? Troublesome financial decisions, dear Sweets.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 07:02:21 pm
Quote from: Unquotable-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 25, 2018, 04:10:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 03:55:26 pm
Other Half and Grimm
I've seen these in cans an on tap around here, but the only time I had Civil was in south Floridia
it's soo good, wish they had some up here

Yeah, but if you got any of the one time DC drop of Other Half, you had to wait in a long ass line.

I did post that they're opening a DC brewery though, right? Sorry memory shot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 26, 2018, 10:45:49 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 07:02:21 pm

Yeah, but if you got any of the one time DC drop of Other Half, you had to wait in a long ass line.

I did post that they're opening a DC brewery though, right? Sorry memory shot.
Sweet, didn't know that
https://www.popville.com/2018/08/other-half-brewing-washington-ivy-city-dc/
I think Pizza P has had Other Half on draft at least one time I was there...but might be confusing that with Singlecut
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 01, 2018, 09:46:12 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 25, 2018, 05:05:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 03:53:25 pm
Quote from: Unquotable-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 24, 2018, 08:29:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 24, 2018, 07:05:44 pm
- Lagunitas: Mozango (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/183011/):
was super happy with this on tap the other night...very crush-able

A 7.7% abv crushable DIPA, lol.

so this might blow your mind, but: it's true.  i crushed my first glass in like 3 takes.  sipped the second half of the bomber, only because i made a point of slowing down.  easily could have mainlined the whole thing.

So I enter my local beer store/watering hole inquiring about this Mozango creature.  Beer guy tells me they're out of bombers.  I say, But I spoke to someone a couple hours ago who said you had a case in stock.   Hmmmm, Oh, here it is, he says.  So i grabbed a couple and asked him what he thought of it as he shook his head and grimaced.  Too sweet, tastes artificial, he says.  Well, I'll be the judge of that. So I ordered the draft version and was immediately hit with a wonderfully fruity bouquet of fresh mangos.  The taste was smooth, carbonation low, head creamy with a somewhat dry piney finish.  Tasted all natural to me, though I was hesitant about the fruited IPA concept initially.  Very easy to drink, though IMHO, it would be a perfect release for the summer....strangely enough we seem to be in the minority,  the keg has lasted a WEEK.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 01, 2018, 10:11:31 am
Quote from: Bagley on November 01, 2018, 09:46:12 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 25, 2018, 05:05:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 03:53:25 pm
Quote from: Unquotable-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 24, 2018, 08:29:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 24, 2018, 07:05:44 pm
- Lagunitas: Mozango (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/183011/):
was super happy with this on tap the other night...very crush-able

A 7.7% abv crushable DIPA, lol.

so this might blow your mind, but: it's true.  i crushed my first glass in like 3 takes.  sipped the second half of the bomber, only because i made a point of slowing down.  easily could have mainlined the whole thing.

So I enter my local beer store/watering hole inquiring about this Mozango creature.  Beer guy tells me they're out of bombers.  I say, But I spoke to someone a couple hours ago who said you had a case in stock.   Hmmmm, Oh, here it is, he says.  So i grabbed a couple and asked him what he thought of it as he shook his head and grimaced.  Too sweet, tastes artificial, he says.  Well, I'll be the judge of that. So I ordered the draft version and was immediately hit with a wonderfully fruity bouquet of fresh mangos.  The taste was smooth, carbonation low, head creamy with a somewhat dry piney finish.  Tasted all natural to me, though I was hesitant about the fruited IPA concept initially.  Very easy to drink, though IMHO, it would be a perfect release for the summer....strangely enough we seem to be in the minority,  the keg has lasted a WEEK.

What beer store? Maybe some people don't care for Lagunitas because it's not local and they're owned by Heineken.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 am
Downtown Frown Wine and Beer- Ghettosburg, MD
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 01, 2018, 06:28:53 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 01, 2018, 09:46:12 am
strangely enough we seem to be in the minority,  the keg has lasted a WEEK.

it's rockin' a 4.07 on BA, so we're not entirely alone... ;D
 
Quote from: Bagley on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 am
Downtown Frown Wine and Beer- Ghettosburg, MD

lololol, great nicknames ;D  i used to check that place out every other week or so... respectable selection (and an amazing selection for MoCo)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 05, 2018, 05:42:52 pm
Gotta say I found that Lagnunitas beer ya'll are hyping pretty turrible.

Also, sweet, what's the deal with you being the 3,000 mile away advocate for that turrible brewery 3 Stars? That hop fest looked just plain old weak. I could have a better hopfest out of my fridge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 05, 2018, 06:42:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 05, 2018, 05:42:52 pm
Gotta say I found that Lagnunitas beer ya'll are hyping pretty turrible.

cool, not everyone is going to like everything.  i just picked up 4 more bombers of Mozango last night.  it's been my main beer for the past month, along with Freemont Field to Ferment: Citra.

Quote from: Yada on November 05, 2018, 05:42:52 pm
Also, sweet, what's the deal with you being the 3,000 mile away advocate for that turrible brewery 3 Stars? That hop fest looked just plain old weak. I could have a better hopfest out of my fridge.

sorry there weren't enough whalez, brah ;D  i'm sure you're sitting on a better collection at home, but 99.9% of the population don't have that collection on hand.  for the price i would have been happy to check out the lineup below, but i'll agree that folks weren't getting on a plane for this one.  3 stars has a soft spot in my heart: i really liked some of their beers, and their support for the homebrewing community over the years has been awesome.


3 Stars Brewing Company:
Boyzen Da Hood- 4.6% Boysenberry Gose
Thats My Jam- 6.5% Blueberry Sour
Cutty Supreme- 8% DDH HAZY DIPA
Star Dust- 8% Zero IBU DDH DIPA w/ tons of Lupulin Powder
Bout That Life- 7.2% American Wild Ale
Pounding Trees- 8% DDH DIPA
Pool Party- 4.6% Session IPA
Raspberry Dissonance- 3.6% Raspberry Sour
Whisker Assassins- 12.5% Barrel Aged Strong Ale aged in Virginia Distilling Company Bourbon Barrels

Barrier Brewing Company- Lot of Dough- 7.5% DIPA collab with KCBC
Barrier Brewing Company- Nothing Is Too Much- 11% Triple IPA with mango, tangerine & peach puree and DDH with Citra & Mosaic

Ocelot Brewing Company- Lean on Me- DIPA brewed with Aslin, Finback, Barreled Souls, Dancing Gnome, Civil Society, RAR, Triple Crossing and Charlestowne Fermentory
Ocelot Brewing Company- Purple Rain- 5% Sour with Blackberries and Black Currants

KCBC- Vital Juices- 5.9% Strawberry & Mango Barrel Aged Sour Collab with Perennial
KCBC- Intruder Annhilation- 9% Double Dry Hopped Double IPA

Interboro-Mad Fat 2nd Anniversary 10% DIPA
Interboro- Battle Cats- 7.6% IPA brewed with KCBC

RAR- Lumber Sexual- Imperial IPA

18th Street Brewing Company- Villian- 8.5% DIPA

Denizens Brewing Company- Georgia Ave- Peach Berliner 3.8%
Denizens Brewing Company- Low County Common- Sour Brown Ale 4.1%

Solace Brewing Company- Thunder Buddy IPA-

Anxo- CIdre Blanc

Crooked Run- All Berries Double Vibes Popsicle Berliner
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 06, 2018, 02:16:43 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 05, 2018, 06:42:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 05, 2018, 05:42:52 pm
Gotta say I found that Lagnunitas beer ya'll are hyping pretty turrible.

cool, not everyone is going to like everything.  i just picked up 4 more bombers of Mozango last night.  it's been my main beer for the past month, along with Freemont Field to Ferment: Citra.

Quote from: Yada on November 05, 2018, 05:42:52 pm
Also, sweet, what's the deal with you being the 3,000 mile away advocate for that turrible brewery 3 Stars? That hop fest looked just plain old weak. I could have a better hopfest out of my fridge.

sorry there weren't enough whalez, brah ;D  i'm sure you're sitting on a better collection at home, but 99.9% of the population don't have that collection on hand.  for the price i would have been happy to check out the lineup below, but i'll agree that folks weren't getting on a plane for this one.  3 stars has a soft spot in my heart: i really liked some of their beers, and their support for the homebrewing community over the years has been awesome.


3 Stars Brewing Company:
Boyzen Da Hood- 4.6% Boysenberry Gose
Thats My Jam- 6.5% Blueberry Sour
Cutty Supreme- 8% DDH HAZY DIPA
Star Dust- 8% Zero IBU DDH DIPA w/ tons of Lupulin Powder
Bout That Life- 7.2% American Wild Ale
Pounding Trees- 8% DDH DIPA
Pool Party- 4.6% Session IPA
Raspberry Dissonance- 3.6% Raspberry Sour
Whisker Assassins- 12.5% Barrel Aged Strong Ale aged in Virginia Distilling Company Bourbon Barrels

Barrier Brewing Company- Lot of Dough- 7.5% DIPA collab with KCBC
Barrier Brewing Company- Nothing Is Too Much- 11% Triple IPA with mango, tangerine & peach puree and DDH with Citra & Mosaic

Ocelot Brewing Company- Lean on Me- DIPA brewed with Aslin, Finback, Barreled Souls, Dancing Gnome, Civil Society, RAR, Triple Crossing and Charlestowne Fermentory
Ocelot Brewing Company- Purple Rain- 5% Sour with Blackberries and Black Currants

KCBC- Vital Juices- 5.9% Strawberry & Mango Barrel Aged Sour Collab with Perennial
KCBC- Intruder Annhilation- 9% Double Dry Hopped Double IPA

Interboro-Mad Fat 2nd Anniversary 10% DIPA
Interboro- Battle Cats- 7.6% IPA brewed with KCBC

RAR- Lumber Sexual- Imperial IPA

18th Street Brewing Company- Villian- 8.5% DIPA

Denizens Brewing Company- Georgia Ave- Peach Berliner 3.8%
Denizens Brewing Company- Low County Common- Sour Brown Ale 4.1%

Solace Brewing Company- Thunder Buddy IPA-

Anxo- CIdre Blanc

Crooked Run- All Berries Double Vibes Popsicle Berliner

I just found the Mozango quite artificial tasting personally.

Re: HopFest #theThirstisReal, half the beers on that list aren't even hoppy and the ones that are that I've had are not that good. Anyway, it will be interesting to see the dent Other Half (a brewery that can actually make a good hoppy beer) puts into place like DC Brau, 3 Stars, and even Aslin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 06, 2018, 03:58:44 pm
New spot opened in Olney today

https://brewbelly.com/

24 Md brews on tap

Happy Hour 4:20-5:20.  Hmm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 06, 2018, 06:17:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 06, 2018, 02:16:43 pm
half the beers on that list aren't even hoppy 

well, the name of that "festival" was "Hop Funk Fest", so whatever wasn't hoppy was in fact sour/funky...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 06, 2018, 07:15:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 06, 2018, 06:17:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 06, 2018, 02:16:43 pm
half the beers on that list aren't even hoppy 

well, the name of that "festival" was "Hop Funk Fest", so whatever wasn't hoppy was in fact sour/funky...

 :-[
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 08, 2018, 09:52:51 am
Amazing news

https://www.foodandwine.com/beer/miller-high-life-champagne-bottles
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 08, 2018, 09:56:56 am
Quote from: Yada on November 08, 2018, 09:52:51 am
Amazing news

https://www.foodandwine.com/beer/miller-high-life-champagne-bottles
Well, I know what Smackie is getting for Christmas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on November 08, 2018, 11:36:59 am
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on November 08, 2018, 09:56:56 am
Quote from: Yada on November 08, 2018, 09:52:51 am
Amazing news

https://www.foodandwine.com/beer/miller-high-life-champagne-bottles
Well, I know what Smackie is getting for Christmas.

OMG. That's my family beer :) I know what I"m getting for everyone!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2018, 09:24:44 pm
has anyone tried Curmudgeon's Better Half, by Founders?
https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/curmudgeons-better-half/
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/77260/

i have a 4-pack i'm looking forward to someday soon...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 08, 2018, 09:49:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 08, 2018, 09:24:44 pm
has anyone tried Curmudgeon's Better Half, by Founders?
https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/curmudgeons-better-half/
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/77260/

i have a 4-pack i'm looking forward to someday soon...
I had a couple of them (separate days) on draft. It's a real beast. My wife hated it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2018, 09:52:38 pm
The Ups and Downs of Beer and Marathons (https://oct.co/essays/drink-finish-line-beer-marathon?utm_source=p4k)

 a reminder that training for a beer marathon is very different from training for a normal marathon. Essentially, you’re teaching your body to process alcohol differently than it would at rest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 12, 2018, 12:59:20 pm
Pabst says MillerCoors is trying to put it out of business  (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/12/pabst-says-millercoors-is-trying-to-put-it-out-of-business.html)

(https://ritalovestowrite.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/scunny.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 12, 2018, 01:30:33 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on November 12, 2018, 12:59:20 pm
Pabst says MillerCoors is trying to put it out of business  (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/12/pabst-says-millercoors-is-trying-to-put-it-out-of-business.html)
Strange as all the hipsters have been drinking PBR bombers for the last decade and I bet it sells waaay better with millennials on a budget than 'high life'  (talk about false advertising)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 12, 2018, 02:30:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 08, 2018, 09:49:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 08, 2018, 09:24:44 pm
has anyone tried Curmudgeon's Better Half, by Founders?
https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/curmudgeons-better-half/ (https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/curmudgeons-better-half/)
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/77260/ (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/77260/)

i have a 4-pack i'm looking forward to someday soon...
I had a couple of them (separate days) on draft. It's a real beast. My wife hated it.

enjoyed a bottle this past weekend, t'was pretty much as advertised: thick and sweet, which helped hide the booze.  sipped it for over 30 minutes, which is an eternity for me.  a very tasty and intense dessert beer but i couldn't see myself having a second one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 12, 2018, 03:35:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 05, 2018, 06:42:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 05, 2018, 05:42:52 pm
Gotta say I found that Lagnunitas beer ya'll are hyping pretty turrible.

cool, not everyone is going to like everything.  i just picked up 4 more bombers of Mozango last night.  it's been my main beer for the past month, along with Freemont Field to Ferment: Citra.

so i have a new theory.

the old theory is that this beer just isn't your cup of tea.

the new one is that you got an old, and possibly abused, bottle.  this beer was released in late august/early september, so it's easy for a bottle to show it's age at this point.  the 4 bombers i picked up last week were from total wine, which doesn't refrigerate their beer.  they haven't been great.  as much as i was a fanboy of this beer when fresh, i won't be buying any more bottles.

at least not until its re-released, which i certainly hope it will be.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 13, 2018, 11:14:30 am
The family and I stopped at the new Guinness facility in Baltimore over the weekend... Holy shit. I've never visited a true macro brewery, wow. It's a sprawling 90 million dollar campus that is pretty damn sweet.

I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for a perfect pint of Guinness draught, which coincidentally is the only Guinness beer they DON'T brew there. They get that shipped in from Ireland. The rest of the beers I sampled were on par with 3 Stars or DC brau. I'll definitely return.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 11:21:18 am
Quote from: Yada on November 13, 2018, 11:14:30 am
The family and I stopped at the new Guinness facility in Baltimore over the weekend... Holy shit. I've never visited a true macro brewery, wow. It's a sprawling 90 million dollar campus that is pretty damn sweet.

I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for a perfect pint of Guinness draught, which coincidentally is the only Guinness beer they DON'T brew there. They get that shipped in from Ireland. The rest of the beers I sampled were on par with 3 Stars or DC brau. I'll definitely return.

Thanks for the review. We've been thinking of making the trip to Baltimore and have been on the fence about hitting Guinness. Planning on a slight detour to Sapwood Cellars and maybe checking out the new Union Craft place. And doing whatever else there is to do in Baltimore while dodging bullets.

The first brewery I ever visited was the Coors facility in Colorado. True story.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 11:23:35 am
We'll be doing a DC to Chicago drive for the holidays, via Columbus (not Cleveland..going the Cleveland route is an hour shorter but adds a shitload of tolls). Of course I have the internet, but anybody have any beer recommendations on that route?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 13, 2018, 11:38:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 11:21:18 am
Quote from: Yada on November 13, 2018, 11:14:30 am
The family and I stopped at the new Guinness facility in Baltimore over the weekend... Holy shit. I've never visited a true macro brewery, wow. It's a sprawling 90 million dollar campus that is pretty damn sweet.

I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for a perfect pint of Guinness draught, which coincidentally is the only Guinness beer they DON'T brew there. They get that shipped in from Ireland. The rest of the beers I sampled were on par with 3 Stars or DC brau. I'll definitely return.

Thanks for the review. We've been thinking of making the trip to Baltimore and have been on the fence about hitting Guinness. Planning on a slight detour to Sapwood Cellars and maybe checking out the new Union Craft place. And doing whatever else there is to do in Baltimore while dodging bullets.

The first brewery I ever visited was the Coors facility in Colorado. True story.

Yeah, we met friends that suggested Guinness and my plan was to hit Sapwood on the way home, however, it's closed on Sunday (Until next week when they start Sunday hours).

Definitely make a stop at Diamondback in Bawlmoor, my favorite brewery up there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 13, 2018, 11:38:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 11:23:35 am
We'll be doing a DC to Chicago drive for the holidays, via Columbus (not Cleveland..going the Cleveland route is an hour shorter but adds a shitload of tolls). Of course I have the internet, but anybody have any beer recommendations on that route?

Cla$$ic $pace.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 13, 2018, 11:52:04 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 11:21:18 am
The first brewery I ever visited was the Coors facility in Colorado. True story.
Mine was Stroh's in Detroit in the 80s
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 13, 2018, 11:56:11 am
Quote from: Yada on November 13, 2018, 11:38:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 11:23:35 am
We'll be doing a DC to Chicago drive for the holidays, via Columbus (not Cleveland..going the Cleveland route is an hour shorter but adds a shitload of tolls). Of course I have the internet, but anybody have any beer recommendations on that route?

Never been here, but sounds like fun.....https://www.brewdog.com/usa/doghouse
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 13, 2018, 01:01:33 pm
Brewdog is also a first with Equity For Punks (https://www.brewdog.com/usa/equityforpunks)
BrewDog* is owned by over 80,000 people who want to change the world of craft beer, forever.
*us operations

Kind of a mug club...no real info on if you can sell your share...which it doesn't seem like you can
so not true equity as far as I can tell
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 13, 2018, 01:10:55 pm
I'm sure some wild bachelor parties go down at the Doghouse.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 13, 2018, 01:25:20 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 13, 2018, 01:10:55 pm
I'm sure some wild bachelor parties go down at the Doghouse.
well maybe for the 2nd or 3rd marriages
target audience is the white balding pear in their 40/50s  (venn diagram is almost just one circle with this board)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 13, 2018, 01:28:19 pm
This was the average person at Tenacious D!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 02:22:40 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 13, 2018, 01:25:20 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 13, 2018, 01:10:55 pm
I'm sure some wild bachelor parties go down at the Doghouse.
well maybe for the 2nd or 3rd marriages
target audience is the white balding pear in their 40/50s  (venn diagram is almost just one circle with this board)

In my defense, I still have decent hair for 50+ and don't care for Brewdog.

I was thinking of stopping at this place in Columbus though.

https://www.pretentiousbarrelhouse.com/menu/

Saint Errant, Dovetail, and Forbidden Root all look like good Chicago breweries that I haven't been to. And there's always Three Floyds, their food is well above usual brewpub fare.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 13, 2018, 02:30:55 pm
The word "pretentious," unironically, used to describe a place in Columbus, OH. What a time to be alive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 02:39:11 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on November 13, 2018, 02:30:55 pm
The word "pretentious," unironically, used to describe a place in Columbus, OH. What a time to be alive.

I thought the word was a little incongruous myself, especially after reading a couple of reviews where people used the word "sketchy" to describe the area.

But it more than likely refers to sour beers, which no doubt more than a few Ohioans would probably consider to be pretentious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 13, 2018, 02:55:47 pm
$pace, peep this place. They have some of my favorite sours.

http://uneannee.com/


Also, Corridor Brewing near Wrigley has some pretty good haaaaze.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 03:04:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 13, 2018, 02:55:47 pm
$pace, peep this place. They have some of my favorite sours.

http://uneannee.com/


Also, Corridor Brewing near Wrigley has some pretty good haaaaze.

Wow, I had seen bottles of Une Annee in the past but didn't  know they had opened a tap room.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 13, 2018, 03:07:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 02:39:11 pm
But it more than likely refers to sour beers, which no doubt more than a few Ohioans would probably consider to be pretentious.
They'd call it "faggot ass foreign cuck shit" then crush a Miller Lite can on their forehead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 03:10:43 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on November 13, 2018, 03:07:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 02:39:11 pm
But it more than likely refers to sour beers, which no doubt more than a few Ohioans would probably consider to be pretentious.
They'd call it "faggot ass foreign cuck shit" then crush a Miller Lite can on their forehead.

So which potential Democratic candidate appeals most to that crowd?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 13, 2018, 03:15:13 pm
Ohio is done...forget it

Anybody running as a Democrat has no chance....even Sherrod
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 13, 2018, 03:46:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 03:10:43 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on November 13, 2018, 03:07:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 02:39:11 pm
But it more than likely refers to sour beers, which no doubt more than a few Ohioans would probably consider to be pretentious.
They'd call it "faggot ass foreign cuck shit" then crush a Miller Lite can on their forehead.

So which potential Democratic candidate appeals most to that crowd?
Uh, Biden, I'd guess.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 13, 2018, 03:55:03 pm
Forget Ohio...if Democrats win Ohio they will take so many other states it will render that win irrelevant

2020 will be fought in PA WI MI and that is it

I would rather devote money and time in NV AZ GA and even godforsaken FL than OH

You have to look at the electoral map

Biden has a big plus in PA but the guy will be 78....an old 78...on.paper he may be appealing but in person he just seems too old

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 04:01:06 pm
Quote from: hutch on November 13, 2018, 03:55:03 pm
Forget Ohio...if Democrats win Ohio they will take so many other states it will render that win irrelevant

2020 will be fought in PA WI MI and that is it

I would rather devote money and time in NV AZ GA and even godforsaken FL than OH

You have to look at the electoral map

Biden has a big plus in PA but the guy will be 78....an old 78...on.paper he may be appealing but in person he just seems too old

Why do you consider him an "old" 78? He's a rich, white, white collar guy who isn't fat and doesn't smoke. Does he drink Miller Lite?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 13, 2018, 04:52:16 pm
damn i hate these political times we're in.  ruining a gawdam beer thread...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 04:59:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 13, 2018, 04:52:16 pm
damn i hate these political times we're in.  ruining a gawdam beer thread...

Sorry about that. Totally my fault. That said, I miss having a homebrewer in the White House.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 13, 2018, 05:48:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2018, 04:59:36 pm
That said, I miss having a homebrewer in the White House.
reminds me of a Deep Space 9 quote
Quark: Never trust ale from a god-fearing people, or a Starfleet commander that has one of your relatives in jail.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 19, 2018, 04:52:08 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46486010_10156996522963083_7508615191559405568_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=507937bdfc8df23a91f91bc24b790fe1&oe=5C6D7B9F)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on November 19, 2018, 04:55:59 pm
Anyone had Evil Genius: Shut Up Meg?

 https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29022/170626/  (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29022/170626/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2018, 12:47:32 pm
Trillium is about to have a giant PR nightmare on their hands,  just in time for their massive expansion!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2018, 01:14:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2018, 12:47:32 pm
Trillium is about to have a giant PR nightmare on their hands,  just in time for their massive expansion!

really?  what's the scandal?  is it related to their new restaurant?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2018, 02:14:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2018, 01:14:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2018, 12:47:32 pm
Trillium is about to have a giant PR nightmare on their hands,  just in time for their massive expansion!

really?  what's the scandal?  is it related to their new restaurant?

Former employee of trillium:

I thought about making an alt account to respond to this because trillium knows my username and actively monitors social media for employee posts. In fact, social media posts are part of the reason I was terminated. Hopefully I don't get sued lol. BTW you don't need to tag @JCTetreault, he and the social media team read this daily. You'd actually be surprised how much they pay attention and respond internally to issues addressed in this thread. Maybe this will will be the tipping point that improves quality of life for the employees. I doubt it.

I can say that everything posted about employee wages and benefits being cut is true. JC and Esther have absolutely no respect for the people working for them, all they care about is $$$. Guess you can't really blame them, it is a business after all. They are well aware of the fact that people want the "prestige" of working for a top brewery and are willing to be underpaid to build the resume. You can probably count on one hand the number of people who have lasted more than 3 years. Trillium started paying $5/hr instead of $8/hr to new retail staff right around the time the greenway first opened, so this isn't just because of the restaurant. However, any longstanding employees of the Congress st location were indeed given a pay cut for their years of service.

Let me say that again, after working for trillium for 3+ years, employees were (after interviewing for the jobs they already had) offered $3/hr less to work the exact same job across the street. That may not sound like a lot, but that is a 37.5% cut that would be ~$6000 a year for full time staff.

At the end of the day, this is not illegal, it's just shitty. Trillium has however been involved with at least one blatantly illegal practice. Did you guys ever try the frozen Mexican sunrise beer? Ever wonder how they got that distinct tequila flavor? Lots of customers did too and let me tell you it was awkward as hell having to skirt that question or outright lie to the customers. At first we were telling customers that it was a wild ale aged in tequila barrels, but then customers started asking which barrels we were using. I asked the general manager, Matt Gartska what barrels we aged the beer in and his response, "Idk dude just make something up!" If you haven't figured it out yet, there were no tequila barrels. They straight up dumped tequila into the kegs. I'm no lawyer, but I know that us illegal. Trillium knows it too because eventually they just told us to stop acknowledging the tequila flavor or to tell the customers it was "brewers magic".

Speaking of those frozen beers, did you ever wonder how they made money on them? Probably not because you assume people ordered them, they didn't. Trillium wasn't concerned however because those slushies were made with leftover beer that had too much trub to sell in a glass. Hell some of the times it was just low fill bottles they couldn't sell (oxidation, etc.) but throw enough fruit juice in their and people will love it! Remember cellar Sunday samples? Those ended when they realized they could sell misfills as frozen bs instead. Yes those samples you tried were beers not good enough to sell.

While we're on the subject of beer not fit to sell, let's talk about growlers. Trillium growlers are almost exclusively filled with beer from trub kegs. For those that don't know, trub is the hop/yeast particulate that settles on the bottom of the fermenter. All the "good" beer goes into cans and taproom kegs. The last few kegs of each batch are full of trub and those get allocated to growlers.

Part of the reason that growlers are not for sale the same day as cans is that those trub kegs need to sit for a couple days so that the trub settles on the bottom. Then you can fill a good number of growlers until you hit the really gross stuff. How is it determined if it's good enough? A manager taste tests it until the burn goes away. Yes I'm serious. Hopefully this ends the can vs growler debate, the growlers are decidedly inferior product. I guess if you like a more raw hop/vegetal slightly astringent flavor then by all means go for the growlers.

This post is already long enough, so I'll end it here. If you have any more questions, AMA!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 21, 2018, 02:20:53 pm
This has disgruntled former employee all over it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2018, 02:38:20 pm
true...but some pretty deceptive practices by the owners as well
cutting pay from 3yr employees sound pretty shitty too
Especially since Trillium is probably making good money (compared to thousands of other breweries)
but whatdoIknow
Not like the average beer drinker will read or care about this news...highly doubt it will impact sales
They might have to start doing the growlers off the regular taps and stop the Mexican beer


Here was the only Trillium news I found
For the past 39 years, Trillium has been a destination for the latest designs in women’s fashions,owner Sima Blue is closing the boutique on Dec. 22. (https://www.baltimoresun.com/features/fashion-style/bs-fe-trillium-closing-20181116-story.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 21, 2018, 03:14:50 pm
I just don’t know enough to say more
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 26, 2018, 10:30:54 pm
It looks like that Trillium story had some legs as it was covered by the Boston Globe.

Meanwhile some good publicity for the local boys.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/17551/aslin-beer-companys-kai-leszkowicz-on-starting-small-trying-stupid-things-and-the-future-of-neipa/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 27, 2018, 02:13:43 pm
i realize this is outta the way for most folks, but in case you ever find yourself in Frederick and need a pint you should definitely check out the town's newest brewery, Idiom Brewing Co.  thtey just opened last week.  the founder is a homebrewer that consistently made excellent beers.  the space looks really nice.

https://www.idiombrewing.com/ (https://www.idiombrewing.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/idiombrewingco/ (https://www.facebook.com/idiombrewingco/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 03, 2018, 03:22:28 pm
founders 2019 release calendar:

(https://foundersbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2019-Availability-Calendar_printer-friendly-1.jpg)

blushing monk, imp stout, at least 3 TBD's... also, all day ipa will be released in bottle 12-packs. weeeeee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 03, 2018, 03:34:58 pm
founders...who drinks that beer anymore ;)

was in fresh market this week and they had four cases of Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Stout just sitting out collecting dust
I remember just year ago (maybe two) all I could get was the Barleywine, other stuff sold out super quick

Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2018, 03:38:57 pm
It would be nice to see CBS go to a four pack (as it is in Canada) at a price similar to KBS, as it appears to be a $25-$30 shelf turd in bomber format this year.
agree with this....I just don't want to drop $30 on a bomber
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 03, 2018, 03:38:57 pm
Good to see Imperial Stout returning. And Backwoods Bastard, Breakfast Stout, and KBS staying intact.

It would be nice to see CBS go to a four pack (as it is in Canada) at a price similar to KBS, as it appears to be a $25-$30 shelf turd in bomber format this year.

The rest of the lineup...don't care.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 03, 2018, 03:40:58 pm
In other news, Sierra Nevada Celebration, still just $8.99 a six pack. Pretty tempting compared to all those $20 Aslin/Veil/fill in your local brewery name here four packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2018, 10:36:30 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2018, 03:38:57 pm
it appears to be a $25-$30 shelf turd in bomber format this year.

Where are the CBS shelf turds hiding? Have yet to see one.

Drank last year's purchase on turkey day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 04, 2018, 11:14:46 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2018, 10:36:30 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2018, 03:38:57 pm
it appears to be a $25-$30 shelf turd in bomber format this year.

Where are the CBS shelf turds hiding? Have yet to see one.

Drank last year's purchase on turkey day.

There's a bunch of them at Fair Lakes WF, P Street WF, H Street WF, and Craft Beer Cellar....off of the top of my head from recent observation, though it's possible I could be pulling a Broken Social Scene on  one or two of those.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 04, 2018, 11:21:26 am
How much of your life is spent in Whole Foods, dude?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 04, 2018, 11:48:36 am
Stone,

Can't recall if you live in MoCo or DC, but essentially any reputable beer store in DC has bottles collecting dust. I was just in Rodmans a few days ago and they had at least 5 cases sitting there for $29.99 a bottle. 

Pass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2018, 07:23:31 pm
Good Lord. $29.99 is pretty bad.

Admittedly, I haven't been looking hard for it. Surprised it hasn't completely disappeared, though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 04, 2018, 09:17:09 pm
in case you need another data point: the Total Wine that i occasionally drop in to (because it's next to my Whole Foods) has at least 2 cases turding up their shelves.  $26.99 each, no limit, have been there for weeks now.

last year i raced to this location on a saturday to be there at opening, to ensure i got a bottle.  i expected to see lines at the door, instead i just got surprised looks when i waltzed in.  got my bottle no problem.  i was the only one there buying it.  a month later, they still had a bunch on the shelf.

CBS has totally jumped the shark.  for years this beer was the white whale i chased.  and now it's a friggen WAY overpriced sunfish that no one wants.  how many more fish metaphors can i fit in this floundering paragraph? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 26, 2018, 05:12:01 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 26, 2018, 05:18:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 26, 2018, 05:12:01 pm
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dang...wasn't quick enough
soo barren here I look forward to reading dots now
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 26, 2018, 05:22:15 pm
About to go to 3 Floyds for dinner with my Trump voting in-laws and wondering how much Zombie Dust I should bring home. I know it's not the prize it once was, but $12+no tax for a sixer is pretty sweet compared to Aslin and Veil can prices. Hoping to also come across Bodhi on the drive home tomorrow, $10 per four pack is a pretty sweet price point for that one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 27, 2018, 10:58:33 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 26, 2018, 05:22:15 pm
About to go to 3 Floyds for dinner with my Trump voting in-laws and wondering how much Zombie Dust I should bring home. I know it's not the prize it once was, but $12+no tax for a sixer is pretty sweet compared to Aslin and Veil can prices. Hoping to also come across Bodhi on the drive home tomorrow, $10 per four pack is a pretty sweet price point for that one.

An even sweeter price point is High Life, Rolling Rock, and Peroni.

In other news.

Amid Controversy, Trillium Sells Majority Stake to Constellation Brands:  http://t.co/2OVmEUhE7w
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on December 27, 2018, 03:04:25 pm
About, to list a home owned by a Wicked Weed distributor.   And, I never knew the family that used to own Anheuser Busch, owns a killer farm and a shit load of lots in my area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 27, 2018, 03:15:05 pm
he he ... Weed Distributor.....they used to call them dealers in my day
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on December 27, 2018, 03:19:46 pm
Upgrade'd
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 28, 2018, 03:19:49 pm
Quote from: Skronk-Hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on December 26, 2018, 05:18:08 pm
dang...wasn't quick enough
soo barren here I look forward to reading dots now

here's a beer story for ya:

last week my local homebrewers' club had their christmas party, including a secret santa/white elephant exchange.  folks were to bring a desirable bottle from their cellar.  observations from a bunch of beer nerds coveting bottles and repeatedly stealing them from each other:
- most stolen (AKA most desired) bottle: barrel aged rasputin.  it's a good beer but given how widely available it is, i found the fuss over this bottle surprising.  in second place was a bottle of flanders red from a recently-closed local brewery.
- most undervalued bottle: calvados-barrel aged gulden draak.  stolen only once.
- most over-valued bottle: anderson valley BBA'ed stout.  it's an insipid beer that is widely available... both the person who brought it and the person who ended up with it fell in my estimation.
- most interesting bottle: a brett'ed barrel-aged cider.  it was the only homebrew on offer as gifter didn't realize we were supposed to bring commercial bottles.  he brought a second one to share, after tasting it i would have considered stealing it.
- best score, IMO: the bruery cuivre, which i ended up with. i was very late in the picking/pecking order and clutched that bottle tightly as the last few folks picked/stole their bottles.

the party was on a heated patio of a condo with nice views.  so much good beer and mead on offer.  when we got kicked off the patio we went to our host's condo, where he put on some Throbbing Gristle (not exactly party music IMO) and got all emotional about a 10-year old homebrewed barleywine he shared with us... ahh, alcohol... good times.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 28, 2018, 03:29:23 pm
good stuff...but I'd pair Throbbing Gristle with Moonshine
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 28, 2018, 03:41:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 28, 2018, 03:19:49 pm
Quote from: Skronk-Hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on December 26, 2018, 05:18:08 pm
dang...wasn't quick enough
soo barren here I look forward to reading dots now

here's a beer story for ya:

last week my local homebrewers' club had their christmas party, including a secret santa/white elephant exchange.  folks were to bring a desirable bottle from their cellar.  observations from a bunch of beer nerds coveting bottles and repeatedly stealing them from each other:
- most stolen (AKA most desired) bottle: barrel aged rasputin.  it's a good beer but given how widely available it is, i found the fuss over this bottle surprising.  in second place was a bottle of flanders red from a recently-closed local brewery.
- most undervalued bottle: calvados-barrel aged gulden draak.  stolen only once.
- most over-valued bottle: anderson valley BBA'ed stout.  it's an insipid beer that is widely available... both the person who brought it and the person who ended up with it fell in my estimation.
- most interesting bottle: a brett'ed barrel-aged cider.  it was the only homebrew on offer as gifter didn't realize we were supposed to bring commercial bottles.  he brought a second one to share, after tasting it i would have considered stealing it.
- best score, IMO: the bruery cuivre, which i ended up with. i was very late in the picking/pecking order and clutched that bottle tightly as the last few folks picked/stole their bottles.

the party was on a heated patio of a condo with nice views.  so much good beer and mead on offer.  when we got kicked off the patio we went to our host's condo, where he put on some Throbbing Gristle (not exactly party music IMO) and got all emotional about a 10-year old homebrewed barleywine he shared with us... ahh, alcohol... good times.

You need to find some new beer friends sweets.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 28, 2018, 04:04:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 28, 2018, 03:41:13 pm
You need to find some new beer friends sweets.
Was going to make the same response...but when I thought about my beer friends...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 28, 2018, 04:51:16 pm
Quote from: Skronk-Hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on December 28, 2018, 03:29:23 pm
good stuff...but I'd pair Throbbing Gristle with Moonshine

or speed.

Quote from: Yada on December 28, 2018, 03:41:13 pm
You need to find some new beer friends sweets.

fair assessment, given the information provided ;D

however i would point out:
- i hang out with these folks because they're fellow brewers, not because of their cellars.  some members are certified beer nerds, others just like to homebrew and don't get all this fuss about chasing down commercial beers...  folks in the latter group are the ones who brought anderson valley-type stuff.
- of the certified beer nerds that i chatted with afterwards, we all agreed that we brought something nice from our cellars, but not whalez - "no way i'm giving up a Cantillon."  i wouldn't judge them too harshly based on this bottle exchange.  i definitely went mid-level: i brought the cognac gulden draak. 

Quote from: Skronk-Hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on December 28, 2018, 04:04:32 pm
Was going to make the same response...but when I thought about my beer friends...

burn?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 28, 2018, 05:12:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 28, 2018, 04:51:16 pm

Quote from: Skronk-Hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on December 28, 2018, 04:04:32 pm
Was going to make the same response...but when I thought about my beer friends...

burn?
In that, my beer friends rarely share anything other than crappy beer, so who am I to judge when someone shows up with some decent bombers

Quote from: sweetcell on December 28, 2018, 04:51:16 pm
Quote from: Skronk-Hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on December 28, 2018, 03:29:23 pm
good stuff...but I'd pair Throbbing Gristle with Moonshine

or speed.
you win that round
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 28, 2018, 05:35:53 pm
Labatts...now with weed! (https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/12/20/37274809/the-king-of-beers-wants-to-get-you-high)


also this coming out in colorado
(https://production-s3-lqeyvkywfwudx.netdna-ssl.com/uploads/blog_post_image/image/3370/medium_Capture.JPG)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 07, 2019, 11:03:39 am
Someone needs to tell this reporter than barleywines are not Belgian.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/07/why-elizabeth-warren-every-would-be-president-prefers-macrobrews/?utm_term=.a859ff57be38
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 07, 2019, 04:48:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 07, 2019, 11:03:39 am
Someone needs to tell this reporter than barleywines are not Belgian.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/07/why-elizabeth-warren-every-would-be-president-prefers-macrobrews/?utm_term=.a859ff57be38 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/07/why-elizabeth-warren-every-would-be-president-prefers-macrobrews/?utm_term=.a859ff57be38)

indeed, barleywines are originally from england so you're right about that.

however, belgian barleywines do exist:
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/158/37524/ (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/158/37524/)
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/385/24273/ (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/385/24273/)
https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/great-dane-belgian-barleywine/118929/ (https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/great-dane-belgian-barleywine/118929/)
etc.
you can make anything "belgian" (ex: belgian IPA) by using belgian yeast (bonus points if you also use belgian candi sugar).

so my reading of the author's use of "belgian barleywines" is that he was going for an over-the-top example of a craft beer - admittedly, a belgian barleywine would be the opposite of a macrobrew (intense flavor, high alcohol, small batch, etc.).  i supposed he could have said "nectarine-infused imperial stout" or "barrel-aged rhubarb and vanilla sour" to make the same point.

(TAN: i currently have a belgian imperial stout on tap.  it might be my fav stout that i've ever made.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 07, 2019, 04:54:14 pm
So, whoever the distributor is that has the Bell's contract for central VA just sold to another distributor and apparently that distributor and the Bells guy have a long running beef since high school and the Bell dude refuses to sell them beer. Now my favorite watering holes can no longer get Two-Hearted. Julian has the sads.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 07, 2019, 05:23:35 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 07, 2019, 04:48:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 07, 2019, 11:03:39 am
Someone needs to tell this reporter than barleywines are not Belgian.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/07/why-elizabeth-warren-every-would-be-president-prefers-macrobrews/?utm_term=.a859ff57be38 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/07/why-elizabeth-warren-every-would-be-president-prefers-macrobrews/?utm_term=.a859ff57be38)

indeed, barleywines are originally from england so you're right about that.

however, belgian barleywines do exist:
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/158/37524/ (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/158/37524/)
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/385/24273/ (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/385/24273/)
https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/great-dane-belgian-barleywine/118929/ (https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/great-dane-belgian-barleywine/118929/)
etc.
you can make anything "belgian" (ex: belgian IPA) by using belgian yeast (bonus points if you also use belgian candi sugar).

so my reading of the author's use of "belgian barleywines" is that he was going for an over-the-top example of a craft beer - admittedly, a belgian barleywine would be the opposite of a macrobrew (intense flavor, high alcohol, small batch, etc.).  i supposed he could have said "nectarine-infused imperial stout" or "barrel-aged rhubarb and vanilla sour" to make the same point.

(TAN: i currently have a belgian imperial stout on tap.  it might be my fav stout that i've ever made.)

Before posting I did google and confirmed that a Belgian barleywine indeed has been made....but my thought was that someone writing for the Post was more likely to be making a mistake than going for an over the top example...maybe I wasn't giving them enough credit.

Wish you weren't 2000+ miles away and could taste your beers once in a while. Our last batch ended up being a complete drain pour. Not sure what went wrong. Well a couple of ideas but still not sure.

Speaking of stouts, the Whole Foods near my office has Vanilla BCBS on. $6 for an 8 oz pour, which is way cheaper than the ounce per dollar bottle cost. See ya.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 10, 2019, 05:08:13 pm
sure, Colbert yucked it up using beer to "explain" the shutdown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xizCOdu3_1E)... but now it's not quite so funny: DC Breweries Especially Harmed by Federal Shutdown (http://www.dcbeer.com/news/dc-breweries-especially-harmed-federal-shutdown). 

annoying that Colbert opened with "craft beer is being held hostage", then proceeded to only use BMC (beers except 2'ish)... 

best line of the bit: "that is a nightmare, it means you might actually have to try your brother-in-laws home brew" ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 10, 2019, 05:38:52 pm
I kept waiting for him to pull out The Truth with Obama on the label...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 16, 2019, 09:47:40 pm
Cross-posting:

Buy a beer for a furloughed fed:

https://payitfurloughed.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 18, 2019, 04:36:55 pm
(https://www.brewbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/HopChronic_fullwidth.jpg)
Pending approval from the Maryland Medical Cannabis Commission, Flying Dog Brewery and Green Leaf Medical Cannabis plan to release Hop Chronic IPA, the state of Maryland’s first THC-infused non-alcoholic beer.


why even be beer if it's going to be non-alcoholic?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 18, 2019, 05:03:43 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 07, 2019, 04:54:14 pm
So, whoever the distributor is that has the Bell's contract for central VA just sold to another distributor and apparently that distributor and the Bells guy have a long running beef since high school and the Bell dude refuses to sell them beer. Now my favorite watering holes can no longer get Two-Hearted. Julian has the sads.

Bells seems to have alot of beefs...first chicago, now this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 22, 2019, 12:54:59 pm
Highly recommend this year's Nugget Nectar on tap
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2019, 01:28:13 pm
Ok...so the beer kinda sucked, but was a decent venue and they were trying to support the homebrewers too

but bordie favorite] Portner Brewhouse...closed again (https://portnerbrewhouse.com/2018/06/04/curtain-call-june-1-2018/)* in june 2018

*Portner founded in 1869 in Old Town. His brewery became the largest in the southeast before closing in 1916 when Virginia created a Prohibition law.

made it longer than Sehkraft brewery (rent I'm sure was MUCH cheaper)

in related Alexandria Brewery news....on monday The Aslin Beer Co (https://alexandrialivingmagazine.com/food-and-dining/aslin-beer-moving-hq-tasting-room-to-alexandria/) said operation is shooting to open in mid-2019 in Alexandria


So this location is in an industrial area...which is less than a 1/2 mile from where Portner was...they really should have the tasting room at the Portner location
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 22, 2019, 04:33:47 pm
Quote from: NoCaveHatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2019, 01:28:13 pm
Ok...so the beer kinda sucked, but was a decent venue and they were trying to support the homebrewers too

but bordie favorite] Portner Brewhouse...closed again (https://portnerbrewhouse.com/2018/06/04/curtain-call-june-1-2018/)* in june 2018

*Portner founded in 1869 in Old Town. His brewery became the largest in the southeast before closing in 1916 when Virginia created a Prohibition law.

made it longer than Sehkraft brewery (rent I'm sure was MUCH cheaper)

in related Alexandria Brewery news....on monday The Aslin Beer Co (https://alexandrialivingmagazine.com/food-and-dining/aslin-beer-moving-hq-tasting-room-to-alexandria/) said operation is shooting to open in mid-2019 in Alexandria


So this location is in an industrial area...which is less than a 1/2 mile from where Portner was...they really should have the tasting room at the Portner location

Are you suggesting Aslin have two Alexandria locations? With the issues they seem to have had in Herndon, I'll be surprised if they get one location up and running.

Different NoVA note: We hit Dominion Wine and Beer for food for the first time Sunday...tasty. And of course their beer list is the best in Fairfax County.  Had a couple of NEIPA's from Equilibrium, one IPA from Charlestown Fermentory, and a barrel aged sour from Horus that were all top of the line. The food and drink actually made sitting around watching football for a couple of hours fun.

Actually, I think Dominion is in Fallc Church City and not Ffx County, but anyhow...

https://www.quora.com/What-county-is-Falls-Church-VA-in-What-determines-its-borders
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2019, 05:00:37 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2019, 04:33:47 pm
Dominion Wine and Beer ...tasty. And of course their beer list is the best in Fairfax County. 
Can confirm...was looking at their tap list the other day and it's got to be one of the best in the area

One of the only people to regularly get Aslin
but always have Commonwealth, Ocolet, Perennial, Crooked Run, Adriot, Tripple crossing, The veil, Prarie, Benchtop, Firestone Walker, all the Goose Island rare stuff on tap

wish everyone was using digital pour too...you can even tell how much is left in the keg and what is on deck (only on the app)
http://dominionwineandbeer.com/whats-on-tap-2/

I need to make it to the bar...have only gone to the bottle shop

Quote
Are you suggesting Aslin have two Alexandria locations?
Nope, just seems a shame that such a nice facility that is just a few blocks away won't be used by a brewery that produces awesome beer


Also just down the road and always a decent tap list and some killer grilled cheese
http://spcbr.com/  Spacebar...like it was named just for you!

it's by the galxy hut crew...so it's got that gritty old school Arlington feel
They will also let you take anything to go in a Mason Jar!
Sweets will like that as you can return it for your $1 back (or just keep it) instead of using a one time use Crowler
Don't know anyone else doing that
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on January 22, 2019, 06:30:19 pm
I am not in the beer world. Nonetheless, I recently went to:

B.C. Brewery in Hunt Valley, MD (which is north of the 695 up 83 several miles.

It has a self-serve beer wall thing.

https://www.bcbrewerymd.com/pages/menus   (https://www.bcbrewerymd.com/pages/menus)

I drank:

Cucumber Melon Gose
Shake it Up! (Mango Milkshake) IPA
Creamsicle Shake IPA
Dry Hopped in A Pear Tree (Cider)
and a Flamingo something (i forget)

There was good Mac and Cheese and Chips/Salsa Verde from a food truck that is somehow affiliated.

The Cider and the Gose were good.

I recommend it for the Mac and Cheese and the Chips/Salsa. The beer is probably alright, but is lost on me.

Also, it's next to the McCormick spice-mill, so the neighborhood smells like whatever they are milling that day. My day seemed to be garlic.


https://youtu.be/17jAwZGvZ5s   (https://youtu.be/17jAwZGvZ5s)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 25, 2019, 09:46:27 am
Quote from: K8teebug on January 18, 2019, 05:03:43 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 07, 2019, 04:54:14 pm
So, whoever the distributor is that has the Bell's contract for central VA just sold to another distributor and apparently that distributor and the Bells guy have a long running beef since high school and the Bell dude refuses to sell them beer. Now my favorite watering holes can no longer get Two-Hearted. Julian has the sads.

Bells seems to have alot of beefs...first chicago, now this.
Same dude he beefed with in Chicago. Blood feud.

Article (https://www.richmond.com/food-drink/plus/bell-s-brewing-beer-is-no-longer-available-in-richmond/article_685e2ebe-1028-50e4-b180-64feecdba852.html) behind paywall so I'll c&p:

Quote
"In Virginia, once a brewery signs an agreement with a wholesaler, unless there's a termination, the contract is in place for forever," said Thomas A. Lisk, an attorney for Bell's Brewing and a lobbyist for the Virginia Restaurant, Lodging and Travel Association. "Basically, it’s marriage for life."

When Premium Distributors of Virginia - a division of the nation's largest beer distributor, Illinois-based Reyes Holdings - acquired Loveland - a local, family-run distributor - it also acquired Loveland's distribution territory and its regional distribution contracts with brands, including Miller, Coors, Guinness, Corona and more than 25 craft beers, including Bell's.

Bell's has been trying to get out of its contract since two days before the sale officially closed, according to filings obtained by the Richmond Times-Dispatch. It's not the first time Bell's has left a market to avoid working with Reyes. Bell's stopped distribution in Illinois for about two years in 2006 when National Wine & Spirits Inc., tried to sell the rights to distribute his beer to Chicago Beverage Systems, another subsidiary of Reyes Holdings.

Bell said in 2006 he feared the large distributor would ignore his beers in favor of bigger brands. The transaction was allowed under Illinois' Beer Industry Fair Dealing Act. So Bell's pulled out of the area and was only able to distribute in Illinois once National Wine & Spirits Inc. left the state.

It's unclear how long Bell's could be unavailable in Richmond.

As part of its attempt to end the contract, Bell's sent Loveland a state-required notice on Dec. 5 alleging that Loveland hadn't fully complied with its contractual requirement to share all documents related to the sale.

"[Loveland provided] the brewery with a copy of the purchase agreement and exhibits between Loveland and Premium, but Loveland did not provide copies of any of the schedules to the purchase agreement despite Bell’s repeated requests for the same," Lisk said. "If you don’t give us the documents, how do we know if the new distributor is going to be sufficient for our business purposes?"

But Loveland and Premium don't want to let Bell's out of its contract, alleging in a complaint with the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Authority that Bell's is in violation of the Virginia Beer Franchise Act, Virginia's version of the Illinois's beer act . In its complaint, a copy of which was obtained by the Richmond Times-Dispatch, Loveland and Premium argue that Bell's products represent "a significant portion of Loveland's beer sales" and that Bell's has failed to "present 'good cause' for its termination of the Distributor Agreement," a requirement of the Virginia Beer Franchise Act.

The distributors argue they've provided Bell's with extensive documentation surrounding the sale and have offered to send more.

"A general understanding of the Act’s requirements is that under that Act, a brewery may not terminate a distributor agreement unless good cause exists. Good cause can simply mean failing to comply with the distributor agreement without justification or reasonable excuse," said Brian Cafritz, an attorney with KPM Law who specializes in retail and restaurant litigation.

Now Bell's beer availability in Richmond is contingent on a not-yet-scheduled hearing before Virginia ABC. Until then, no new kegs or cases will be shipped to the Richmond market.

Bell's estimates the Richmond area market - and everything within the Loveland distribution territory - extending from Caroline County to the north, to near the North Carolina border to the south, Goochland County to the west, to James City County to the east - will represent a loss of about 60,000 cases of beer a year for the brewery.

"We really enjoyed selling beer in Richmond – it’s a really good market for us and we are sad not to be there," said Larry Bell, founder and president of Bell's Brewing. "They’re a $33 billion company. This is small potatoes for them; it’s a big deal for us."

Premium Distributors declined to comment for this story, citing pending litigation in a statement through its attorney.

A spokesperson for Virginia ABC said "the matter is still in the scheduling stage and ABC is waiting for the parties to provide necessary information." Once the hearing is set, it could be months or weeks before a decision is made. That could be followed by an an appeals process, Lisk said.

In the meantime, Richmond area beer drinkers are starting to notice that the Bell's isn't being resupplied.

"Two-Hearted was in the top five beers sold at most of our locations," said Matthew Simmons, president of Capital Ale House restaurants, which has three Richmond-area location and is known for its vast beer lists. "People are sad for sure. A couple locations stockpiled some Two Hearted when they heard it was going away but they will run out this week."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 25, 2019, 10:00:54 am
well I'd be happy to work out a trade for the 2Hearted
you get me a case of The Veil and I'll trade for a case of 2heart
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 25, 2019, 10:30:34 am
Speaking of Bells, this one seems like it might be worth a try.

https://twitter.com/BellsBrewery/status/1087365210799816704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1087365210799816704&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231087365210799816704
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 25, 2019, 10:36:29 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 25, 2019, 10:30:34 am
Speaking of Bells, this one seems like it might be worth a try.

https://twitter.com/BellsBrewery/status/1087365210799816704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1087365210799816704&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231087365210799816704

I can taste the malt bomb from here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 25, 2019, 10:40:00 am
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2019, 10:36:29 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 25, 2019, 10:30:34 am
Speaking of Bells, this one seems like it might be worth a try.

https://twitter.com/BellsBrewery/status/1087365210799816704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1087365210799816704&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231087365210799816704

I can taste the malt bomb from here.

Probably. I'd try a single or a draft before committing to a six pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 25, 2019, 11:08:27 am
Am I crazy or has double two-hearted not happened before? I feel like I definitely had this like two years ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 25, 2019, 12:12:01 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 25, 2019, 11:08:27 am
Am I crazy or has double two-hearted not happened before? I feel like I definitely had this like two years ago.

It has, but only at the brewery. This will be the first time for distribution. Or at least that's what I think I read.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 25, 2019, 12:52:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 25, 2019, 12:12:01 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 25, 2019, 11:08:27 am
Am I crazy or has double two-hearted not happened before? I feel like I definitely had this like two years ago.

It has, but only at the brewery. This will be the first time for distribution. Or at least that's what I think I read.
No, I definitely did not have it at the brewery. It was on tap at my local watering hole. I remember it distinctly because my buddy and I kept making Four Hearted jokes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 25, 2019, 02:02:56 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 25, 2019, 12:52:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 25, 2019, 12:12:01 pm
Quote from: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 25, 2019, 11:08:27 am
Am I crazy or has double two-hearted not happened before? I feel like I definitely had this like two years ago.

It has, but only at the brewery. This will be the first time for distribution. Or at least that's what I think I read.
No, I definitely did not have it at the brewery. It was on tap at my local watering hole. I remember it distinctly because my buddy and I kept making Four Hearted jokes.

Tell us one of the jokes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 25, 2019, 02:06:11 pm
“Bill Brasky had a Four Hearted like this once and then dropped over dead from a sixteen-day-long heart attack — one for every chamber. To Bill Brasky!”
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 25, 2019, 10:20:22 pm
sungazer - charles towne fermentory
Delightful
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2019, 10:20:49 pm
Quote from: NoCaveHatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 25, 2019, 10:20:22 pm
sungazer - charles towne fermentory
Delightful

Indeed it is. And they take it to a whole other level when they add lactose to it and make Creamsicle Sungazer. We brought back cans of each from our Florida/South Carolina road trip last Spring Break and that was a beer stash that I wanted to last forever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 30, 2019, 01:20:00 pm
Deal of the week at P St Whole Foods...64 oz growler fill of Abraxas for $20.

22 oz bottle is $25.

$14 for a 32 oz fill if you don't want 64 oz.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2019, 11:54:41 am
Interesting read on the current state of craft beer. I expect to see many more once praised breweries head down this path.

https://westcoastersd.com/2019/01/23/council-is-adjourned/?fbclid=IwAR3WD5gpveCa31nRUcTV2SNPhCTGNuxE9AErpmBcoORQSi_kLc9YkxCCOYg
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2019, 12:37:15 pm
I think there are some major flaws in the craft beer industry and their core consumers
Plus the options went from just a handful of breweries in ones geographic reagion to dozens in just a few years

There are just a limited number of neck-beards around that are willing to pay $22 for a 4 pack of bombers

And almost everyone of them has no loyalty to a brewery, most are just looking for the new 'it' beer

Take KBS or the Goose Island limited edition stuff
Only 2 years ago, if you didn't show up early and wait in line somewhere, you likely weren't getting anything
now the this stuff is collecting dust at retailers (although those are good for aging, so not the worst problem)

I think that a lot of well respected breweries are going to go under in the next few years/months

Hopefully the brewers who made the good beer will just show up at one of those mediocre  breweries (with good financial backing) and turn that place in to the next 'it' brewery




Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2019, 12:47:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 31, 2019, 11:54:41 am
Interesting read on the current state of craft beer. I expect to see many more once praised breweries head down this path.

https://westcoastersd.com/2019/01/23/council-is-adjourned/?fbclid=IwAR3WD5gpveCa31nRUcTV2SNPhCTGNuxE9AErpmBcoORQSi_kLc9YkxCCOYg

Was there ever a picture that more definitively showed that red hair is sexy on a woman but never sexy on a man?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2019, 12:49:24 pm
Quote from: WagnerMercenary ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2019, 12:37:15 pm
I think there are some major flaws in the craft beer industry and their core consumers
Plus the options went from just a handful of breweries in ones geographic reagion to dozens in just a few years

There are just a limited number of neck-beards around that are willing to pay $22 for a 4 pack of bombers

And almost everyone of them has no loyalty to a brewery, most are just looking for the new 'it' beer

Take KBS or the Goose Island limited edition stuff
Only 2 years ago, if you didn't show up early and wait in line somewhere, you likely weren't getting anything
now the this stuff is collecting dust at retailers (although those are good for aging, so not the worst problem)

I think that a lot of well respected breweries are going to go under in the next few years/months

Hopefully the brewers who made the good beer will just show up at one of those mediocre  breweries (with good financial backing) and turn that place in to the next 'it' brewery

Maybe Goose and Founders started making more BCBS adnd KBS to meet the demand and in some cases exceed it. They've both been purchased or partially purchased by big beer, so more resources for more production.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 31, 2019, 12:55:34 pm
I'm astounded at how quickly beer geeks turn their noses up at the beers they previously praised. All while chasing the latest and greatest.

I do think there are way too many breweries now and not enough beer drinkers to keep them all afloat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2019, 01:00:21 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 31, 2019, 12:55:34 pm
I'm astounded at how quickly music geeks turn their noses up at the bands they previously praised. All while chasing the latest and greatest.

I do think there are way too many bands now and not enough music fans to keep them all afloat.

Preach.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 31, 2019, 01:14:35 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 31, 2019, 12:55:34 pm
I'm astounded at how quickly beer geeks turn their noses up at the beers they previously praised.
"This beer is great!"

(seconds later) "They took a partial investment from Busch? Its swill and I hope their children die of smallpox."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 31, 2019, 01:24:00 pm
Agreed.

So what is your "go-to" beer on a Tuesday night? Do you have a tried-and-true favorite that you'll come back to time and time again?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2019, 01:32:29 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on January 31, 2019, 01:24:00 pm
Agreed.

So what is your "go-to" beer on a Tuesday night? Do you have a tried-and-true favorite that you'll come back to time and time again?

Miller High Life and Rolling Rock.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2019, 01:44:25 pm
I'll be the first to admit this is where I'm currently at in my beer journey. Basically tired of every single haaaaaaze can that tastes exactly the same... anything with lactose in it I find repulsive... Tired of kool-aid beers. At this point, I'm thirsty for a BA stout (maybe with a bit of pastry added) on a very limited occasion, a good gueze/wild, or a pilsner/lager.


(https://i.imgur.com/9cBwP1h.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2019, 01:53:40 pm
council made excellent beers.  a real loss for the SD beer scene - in a town overrun with breweries, council was at the top.  was.

my takeaways from the article:
- brewery owners put in ridiculous hours.  owning a brewery is a sentence (going back to work the day you delivery a baby?!?)
- the #1 reason why breweries fail: expanding too fast/unsustainably = you're so stretched that you can't deal with any disruptions.  when a brewery bets the farm on more production capacity, they are essentially betting that nothing will change - including their current growth rate.  why bother expanding? why not just stay a small brewery?  because brewing is a volume business.  it takes as much time to brew one barrel of beer as it does to brew 50.  so why not get a fat loan, upgrade the brew house and end the day with more beer to sell, so more profit?  with their 3 barrel brew house, the owners couldn't pay themselves.  it's damn tempting to put on some rose-colored glasses and tell yourself that a $5 or $10 million loan will be no problem to pay back, plus you can finally cover your rent...
- fuck trump and his tariffs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2019, 02:02:41 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2019, 12:49:24 pm
Take KBS or the Goose Island limited edition stuff
Only 2 years ago, if you didn't show up early and wait in line somewhere, you likely weren't getting anything
now the this stuff is collecting dust at retailers (although those are good for aging, so not the worst problem)

Maybe Goose and Founders started making more BCBS adnd KBS to meet the demand and in some cases exceed it. They've both been purchased or partially purchased by big beer, so more resources for more production.
 
i think the biggest issue for KBS and BCBS is that they are charging 2012 prices in 2019.  times have changed and they haven't - in fact, they've backslided.  back in the day they were unique and could command a high price.  the breweries kept ramping up the prices while their value decreased due to the rise of alternatives.  they overshot the supply/demand curve.  looking at all the options i have today, i would still happily buy a 4-pack of KBS for $14... but at $25, they'll be collecting dust.  all the AB marketing in the world won't change that... how about using some of that corporate mega-buying power to lower prices?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2019, 02:23:44 pm
Not that it impacts my purchases as other than CBS last year, I haven't bought a founders beer in years, but did I miss they were purchased by InBev?

Last drama I saw with them was some employment issue around racists that they employee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2019, 02:39:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 31, 2019, 02:23:44 pm
Not that it impacts my purchases as other than CBS last year, I haven't bought a founders beer in years, but did I miss they were purchased by InBev?

Last drama I saw with them was some employment issue around racists that they employee.

How can they possibly be racist when they are minority owned? /s

That same month, Founders announced that Mahou-San Miguel had purchased a 30% minority stake in the business. This makes Founders no longer a craft brewery, by the Brewers Association definition, as it requires that craft breweries not be more than 25% owned by a macro-brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2019, 05:47:34 pm
interesting: Rodenbach and Dogfish Head to Produce First Collaboration in Famed Belgian Brewery’s History (https://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/17895/rodenbach-and-dogfish-head-to-produce-first-collaboration-in-famed-belgian-brewerys-history/)

don't think i've ever had a DFH sour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2019, 06:27:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2019, 05:47:34 pm
interesting: Rodenbach and Dogfish Head to Produce First Collaboration in Famed Belgian Brewery’s History (https://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/17895/rodenbach-and-dogfish-head-to-produce-first-collaboration-in-famed-belgian-brewerys-history/)

don't think i've ever had a DFH sour.

If this counts as a sour, I thought it was pretty decent for a mass market beer,

SeaQuench Ale is a session sour mash-up of a crisp Kolsch, a salty Gose, and a tart Berliner Weiss brewed in sequence with black limes, sour lime juice and sea salt to make this the most thirst-quenching beer Dogfish Head has ever brewed
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 07, 2019, 01:42:57 pm
Glitter beer?!?
didn't realize this was a thing
(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/2809113/size/tmg-article_tall.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 07, 2019, 02:21:31 pm
dude.  glitter beer has been a thing (mostly a thing of ridicule) for about a year now. 

you know when folks make fun of craft beer because of how ridiculous they claim it is?  yeah, this is the type of shit they're talking about.  stupid marketers...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 07, 2019, 02:48:14 pm
^^ Walkie is going to rain down a fury on you like you can not imagine, grrrrrl!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 07, 2019, 03:12:14 pm
If walkie was around....


Cue:
“Baby come back....” (Player)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on February 07, 2019, 05:41:31 pm
I, like to drink glitter beer, with my anus. That way, i can fart sparkle all over, your wet dreams.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 07, 2019, 05:45:01 pm
^an image I've not seen, but can't unsee
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 08, 2019, 12:15:22 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/rWDTsfd.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2019, 03:07:03 pm
whilst reading about Amy K's chances for 2020 on 538...came across this thread related passage and never heard this in regards to politics

The idea is to draw a contrast — probably softly at first, and maybe more explicitly if the campaign grows more combative — between Klobuchar and more left-wing candidates from the coasts, particularly Harris, Warren, Sanders and perhaps Booker. In some ways, this will recall the old distinction between “beer-track” (“flyover-state” moderates) and “wine-track” (coastal liberals) Democrats. However, Klobuchar isn’t likely to have the beer track to herself; Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown could be playing in the same lane, and, more significantly, so could former Vice President Joe Biden. There’s also what you might call a “craft-beer track,” consistenting of candidates who are from the middle of the country but whose appeal might be stronger among college-educated voters, such as O’Rourke and (craft brewery founder!) John Hickenlooper, a former governor of Colorado.


So are the trump voter considered the 'Four-Loko-track'
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 11, 2019, 03:21:01 pm
I read that too...it’s pretty moronic

I read somewhere that Klobuchar has passed the most bills...tons


Has Sanders passed one bill?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 11, 2019, 04:03:27 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 11, 2019, 03:21:01 pm
I read that too...it’s pretty moronic

I read somewhere that Klobuchar has passed the most bills...tons


Has Sanders passed one bill?
Klobuchar has also thrown the most binders at staff members....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 12, 2019, 03:02:56 pm
Won't be here...but thought some of you might be interested
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50528139_1730601307040069_4556723205976358912_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=d8a61c1d82560964cf7d696435432e4c&oe=5CE5902A)

and just the bluegrass is free...not the aslin beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on February 12, 2019, 05:20:20 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 11, 2019, 03:21:01 pm
I read that too...it’s pretty moronic

I read somewhere that Klobuchar has passed the most bills...tons


Has Sanders passed one bill?

Are we really defining "success" by how many bills one passes?  Does a Supreme Court Judge get judged by how many times they are in the majority? If so, you are saying that only Center right Senators can be succesful right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 12, 2019, 06:04:15 pm
If you have been in the Senate for decades and been unable to work with others in crafting legislation I think that shows you are failing...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 12, 2019, 06:05:24 pm
Aslin birthday party on 9/14/19

Ocelot birthday party on 4/20/19
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 13, 2019, 10:18:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 12, 2019, 06:05:24 pm
Aslin birthday party on 9/14/19

Ocelot birthday party on 4/20/19

Veil birthday party 4/27/19
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 13, 2019, 10:24:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 13, 2019, 10:18:26 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 12, 2019, 06:05:24 pm
Aslin birthday party on 9/14/19

Ocelot birthday party on 4/20/19

Veil birthday party 4/27/19

There is actually a week long celebration starting on the 23rd and ending the 28th.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 26, 2019, 10:09:24 am
(https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/image/2019/2/21/31dbb5a3-a4ce-4788-9b86-9c397e220fa6-saturday-morning-beer.jpg)

So what do you beer dorks think about this?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2019, 10:15:14 am
figures the stoner comes across these
they sound horrible..but I do like smartmouth
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2019, 11:07:24 am
Quote from: Defamatory Gist ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2019, 10:15:14 am
figures the stoner comes across these
they sound horrible..but I do like smartmouth

176 beers released, and only 6 with a 4.0 or better on Untappd. That would be the first strike. Second strike would be I don't like marshmallows, and if I did I'd want to see it associated with a stout, not an IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 26, 2019, 02:53:21 pm
in case anyone is looking for a beer-related activity on saturday: the DC Homebrewers are doing a brewery tour.  $99 gets you transpo, beer, a meal, and 4 stops/destinations including a personal tour of Sapwood Cellar from the two owners Mike and Scott (they're former DCHB'ers, so i'd expect them to pull out something special for the club).  the price is discounted, from the operator's usual prices.

mo' info: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOPjrOYfe5NfRa-Ji0WcOJkgAggdS-xg3EdpCS1PD2U/edit?fbclid=IwAR3kUTdSu7sOopEHcbuuxyjE8kv2hK6_KLWbvpunnNfj00Isqk2AXleI5tQ (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOPjrOYfe5NfRa-Ji0WcOJkgAggdS-xg3EdpCS1PD2U/edit?fbclid=IwAR3kUTdSu7sOopEHcbuuxyjE8kv2hK6_KLWbvpunnNfj00Isqk2AXleI5tQ)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2019, 02:56:41 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/2uovj8.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2019, 03:09:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 26, 2019, 02:53:21 pm
in case anyone is looking for a beer-related activity on saturday: the DC Homebrewers are doing a brewery tour.  $99

mo' info: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOPjrOYfe5NfRa-Ji0WcOJkgAggdS-xg3EdpCS1PD2U/edit?fbclid=IwAR3kUTdSu7sOopEHcbuuxyjE8kv2hK6_KLWbvpunnNfj00Isqk2AXleI5tQ (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOPjrOYfe5NfRa-Ji0WcOJkgAggdS-xg3EdpCS1PD2U/edit?fbclid=IwAR3kUTdSu7sOopEHcbuuxyjE8kv2hK6_KLWbvpunnNfj00Isqk2AXleI5tQ)
kinda limited tix tho...
The van maxes out at 14 passengers

Sounds cool even if Jules is a douche
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2019, 03:32:48 pm
Quote from: Defamatory Gist ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2019, 03:09:31 pm
kinda limited tix tho...
The van maxes out at 14 passengers

Sounds cool even if Jules is a douchehe
FTFY
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 26, 2019, 03:46:16 pm
yeah, number of tix are limited.  looks like 8 or 9 seats are taken, so 5 or 6 seats left.

yeah, jules is jules ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 26, 2019, 03:53:49 pm
So am I missing something or are people paying a hundred clams to ride around in a bus, visit a few breweries and get one juice glass of "sampler" beer at each, and then a cheese sandwich for lunch? Sign me up!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2019, 04:03:36 pm
but this is the sandwich....
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/590383042f6ae4ae108b46b6-750-563.jpg)
catered by Steven Starr


maybe this is the next "where do we send julian to" event
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2019, 04:13:18 pm
Quote from: Defamatory Gist ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2019, 04:03:36 pm
maybe this is the next "where do we send julian to" event
I think at this point the play is we should throw a JulianFest and make other people come to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 26, 2019, 04:15:14 pm
Only way to guarantee attendance is if guests can take turns beating the shit out of you
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 26, 2019, 04:18:37 pm
SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience
Fri, May 17, 7:30 PM
National Building Museum, Washington, DC

What happens when celebrated chefs team up with some of America's finest craft breweries? Answer: an unforgettable night of sensory delight. Join us May 17 for the 12th annual SAVOR: An American Craft Beer & Food Experience.

Set amid the grandeur of the National Building Museum, SAVOR is the premier beer and food pairing event in the country. Discover your new favorite craft beers and pairings and meet the people behind the beers, including owners and brewers, who will be personally serving their beer.

Your SAVOR ticket includes samples of 180+ beers from 90 small and independent craft brewers from around the country; craft beer and small plate pairings; commemorative tasting glass; and a limited-edition SAVOR commemorative beer to take home.

https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/15005632DD5C589C (https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/15005632DD5C589C)


Presale on now, use AHASAVOR19
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 26, 2019, 04:20:15 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on February 26, 2019, 03:53:49 pm
So am I missing something or are people paying a hundred clams to ride around in a bus, visit a few breweries and get one juice glass of "sampler" beer at each, and then a cheese sandwich for lunch? Sign me up!

you'll be getting a lot more than a single sampler, and the meal will be a lot better than a cheese sandwich.  but thanks for trying to under-sell it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on February 26, 2019, 04:29:18 pm
 https://www.ecowatch.com/glyphosate-beer-wine-2630077686.html   (https://www.ecowatch.com/glyphosate-beer-wine-2630077686.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2019, 04:57:22 pm
Quote from: challenged and calloused on February 26, 2019, 04:29:18 pm
https://www.ecowatch.com/glyphosate-beer-wine-2630077686.html   (https://www.ecowatch.com/glyphosate-beer-wine-2630077686.html)

Thank god I weigh more than 125 pounds. I am a little concerned for Vansmack though.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency sets daily exposure limits at least 100 times below levels shown to have no negative effect in safety studies," Reeves said. "Assuming the greatest value reported, 51.4 ppb, is correct, a 125-pound adult would have to consume 308 gallons of wine per day, every day for life to reach the US Environmental Protection Agency's glyphosate exposure limit for humans. To put 308 gallons into context, that would be more than a bottle of wine every minute, for life, without sleeping."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2019, 05:10:19 pm
Quote from: Relaxer on February 26, 2019, 03:53:49 pm
So am I missing something or are people paying a hundred clams to ride around in a bus, visit a few breweries and get one juice glass of "sampler" beer at each, and then a cheese sandwich for lunch? Sign me up!
For just $36 more...you don't get a bus ride or visit breweries
but you get ...samples of 180+ beers from 90 small and independent craft brewers from around the country; craft beer and small plate pairings; commemorative tasting glass; and a limited-edition SAVOR commemorative beer to take home.

I'm so tempted to do Savor...but the hangover from Xmas and other things have a long tail, so this time a year is no time to drop $135 on one night of drinking ;(

Is there such thing as a craft-beer sugar daddy?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 26, 2019, 05:19:18 pm
What about autographs? Any autographs!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 26, 2019, 06:46:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2019, 04:57:22 pm
I am a little concerned for Vansmack though.

You couldn't pay me to drink those wines, but I will reduce my Coors Light intake just in case.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 27, 2019, 07:50:13 pm
could go here, could go in the "legal weed" thread:

Scientists Gene-Hacked Yeast to Make THC Instead of Booze
All you have to do is feed it some sugar.
https://futurism.com/researchers-create-yeast-that-synthesizes-thc-and-cbd
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 01, 2019, 12:10:07 am
could go here, could go in the, who gives a shit thread.

I went to Aldi . . . and bought some beer called, third street brewhouse hop lift.  somehow, I felt like I was buying beer at dollar tree, then I realized Americans don't understand brands they have never seen before, and I bought it any,way.  It wasn't bad.  I would buy it again for 6 dollars and the fact that I love that you get to put a quarter into the shopping carts, at Aldi.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 01, 2019, 09:48:46 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 01, 2019, 12:10:07 am
could go here, could go in the, who gives a shit thread.

I went to Aldi . . . and bought some beer called, third street brewhouse hop lift.  somehow, I felt like I was buying beer at dollar tree, then I realized Americans don't understand brands they have never seen before, and I bought it any,way.  It wasn't bad.  I would buy it again for 6 dollars and the fact that I love that you get to put a quarter into the shopping carts, at Aldi.


ALDI just opened two miles from my house...they have great prices on tortilla chips (88 cents!), eggs, milk, nuts and ground beef...also $2.89 winking loon wine...not much else I need

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 01, 2019, 10:08:10 am
Quote from: hutch on March 01, 2019, 09:48:46 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 01, 2019, 12:10:07 am
could go here, could go in the, who gives a shit thread.

I went to Aldi . . . and bought some beer called, third street brewhouse hop lift.  somehow, I felt like I was buying beer at dollar tree, then I realized Americans don't understand brands they have never seen before, and I bought it any,way.  It wasn't bad.  I would buy it again for 6 dollars and the fact that I love that you get to put a quarter into the shopping carts, at Aldi.


ALDI just opened two miles from my house...they have great prices on tortilla chips (88 cents!), eggs, milk, nuts and ground beef...also $2.89 winking loon wine...not much else I need

Can I just say that there's nothing in the world more frightening for a DC bubble dweller than to be shopping in an Aldi in rural MAGA, Indiana. That said, the people were really, really nice. The fact that I'm a white, boringly dressed male with wife and kid probably helped.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 01, 2019, 10:12:27 am
I find it interesting that ALDI and Trader Joe’s where started by brothers... they have pretty different approaches
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 01, 2019, 11:44:49 am
For the Baltimore hazebros…

https://www.facebook.com/AslinBeerCo/photos/a.511119962360764/1350586441747441/?type=3&theater

Oh wait, already happened. Probably some leftovers though.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 01, 2019, 03:16:35 pm
bought two beers today, that I have not seen before, from their prospective breweries . . .  wicked weed passionfruit lychee burst and clown shoes the drongo.  i hope i did, not waste my money.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 04, 2019, 10:05:54 am
this looks good...

Join The Sovereign on Sunday, April 14th as we welcome Brian Strumke of Stillwater Artisanal Ales. On this afternoon, Brian will host an intimate tasting of all 5 beers from the Preternatural Cuvée Project, a series of his most intriguing and special barrel-aged beer-wine hybrids!

In 2014, Stillwater Artisanal procured a truckload of freshly emptied California wine barrels and filled them with a mix of blond and dark Saisons. These beers were then blended and aged with varying amounts of assorted California-source wine grapes. After 3 years in oak barrels, roughly 2 years of bottle conditioning, and many blending and tasting sessions, Stillwater is finally ready to release these 5 beautiful beer-wine hybrids. Don't miss your chance to try these incredibly complex and beautiful beers, a project 5 years in the making!

Beginning at 12 PM, Brian will guide guests through a private tasting of each beer in the Preternatural Cuvée Project. All guests will receive one 4 oz. tasting portion of each beer. Reservations are required. Please book soon, as space is extremely limited.

The Stillwater Preternatural Cuvee Project tasting will begin promptly at 12 PM in the upstairs bar. Tickets are $35 each, plus tax. Reservations are available emailing info@thesovereigndc.com or by calling The Sovereign at (202) 774-5875.

THE OFFICIAL STILLWATER PRETERNATURAL CUVÉE PROJECT TASTING
- Preternatural Cuvée 1 (Oak BA Saison w/ Sauvignon Blanc Grapes)
- Preternatural Cuvée 2 (Oak BA Saison w/ Viognier Grapes)
- Preternatural Cuvée 3 (Oak BA Saison w/ Cabernet Sauvignon, Sauvignon Blanc & Viognier Grapes)
- Preternatural Cuvée 4 (Oak BA Saison w/ Viognier, Pinot Noir & Cabernet Sauvignon Grapes)
- Preternatural Cuvée 5 (Oak BA Saison w/ Petite Syrah Grapes)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 04, 2019, 07:45:37 pm
insightful read: The Economics of Opening a Brewery (https://www.themadfermentationist.com/2019/03/the-economics-of-opening-brewery.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 04, 2019, 09:23:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 04, 2019, 07:45:37 pm
insightful read: The Economics of Opening a Brewery (https://www.themadfermentationist.com/2019/03/the-economics-of-opening-brewery.html)

Great read
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2019, 11:27:50 am
It looks like The Alchemist is now distributing Heady throughout the entire state of Vermont (about 5 years late). Heady shelf turds imminent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 14, 2019, 10:34:11 am
Man giving up food entirely for Lent, will only drink beer (https://www.wbaltv.com/article/man-giving-up-food-entirely-for-lent-will-only-drink-beer/26798680)
good thing he works at a brewery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 15, 2019, 10:21:06 am
Finally made it to Astro Lab Brewing. Their Citra IPA is really good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 15, 2019, 10:25:32 am
Quote from: excontradiction on March 15, 2019, 10:21:06 am
Finally made it to Astro Lab Brewing. Their Citra IPA is really good!

Been wanting to get there for months... Also, Silver Branch just opened in Silver Spring as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 15, 2019, 11:02:02 am
Quote from: Yada on March 15, 2019, 10:25:32 am
Quote from: excontradiction on March 15, 2019, 10:21:06 am
Finally made it to Astro Lab Brewing. Their Citra IPA is really good!

Been wanting to get there for months... Also, Silver Branch just opened in Silver Spring as well.
wow and with Denizens, you can hit three breweries in Silver spring within a mile of each other!
might have to hop on the red line


ugh ... glitterbeer
(https://i1.wp.com/beerstreetjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/DuClaw-Sour-Me-Unicorn-Farts.jpg?resize=960%2C630)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 15, 2019, 11:40:57 am
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 15, 2019, 11:02:02 am
Quote from: Yada on March 15, 2019, 10:25:32 am
Quote from: excontradiction on March 15, 2019, 10:21:06 am
Finally made it to Astro Lab Brewing. Their Citra IPA is really good!

Been wanting to get there for months... Also, Silver Branch just opened in Silver Spring as well.
wow and with Denizens, you can hit three breweries in Silver spring within a mile of each other!
might have to hop on the red line


ugh ... glitterbeer
(https://i1.wp.com/beerstreetjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/DuClaw-Sour-Me-Unicorn-Farts.jpg?resize=960%2C630)

I haven't been to Denizens in probably four years, but unless things have changed they used to make pretty turrible beer. Astrolab looks promising... Silver Branch looks like I'll be crushing pils (which isn't a bad thing).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 15, 2019, 09:16:13 pm
Was pleasantly surprised by Astro Lab. Look forward to going back.

Denizens hasn't been good in a long time. Heard mixed things about Silver Branch but do want to check it out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2019, 08:03:34 am
(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/d879a39f766b935628a8d1295/images/b3e0635a-6d49-41c0-bb52-1ee4014ed83a.png)

SAVE THE DATE: THE FIRST ANNUAL EASTER KEG HUNT
ChurchKey, Bluejacket, The Sovereign & The Partisan
Thursday, April 11th - Sunday, April 14th
...
You are cordially invited to a *different* type of scavenger hunt this Spring: the first annual #DCEasterKegHunt. From Thursday, April 11th through Sunday, April 14th, join us along with our buddies at The Sovereign, Bluejacket & The Partisan for a craft beer-themed scavenger hunt across The District. The hoppy hunt is on...

STEP 1: Starting on Thursday, April 11th, pick up your official Easter Keg Hunt scorecard at any of the participating locations – ChurchKey, Bluejacket, The Sovereign or The Partisan.

STEP 2: Each location will have a different clue hinting at a special beer on the draft list.

STEP 3: Find the secret beer at all 4 locations by Sunday, April 14th, and win a FREE limited-edition commemorative DC Easter Keg Hunt 2019 hooded sweatshirt (retail value $45). Winners will be automatically entered into a drawing for one of five grand prizes:

• Belgian beer tasting for 4 people at The Sovereign w/ Greg Engert, NRG Beer Director
• Private brewery tour & tasting for 4 people at Bluejacket w/ Ro Guenzel, Director of Brewery Operations.
• “Shared Supper” beer & food experience for two (2) people at Birch & Barley/ChurchKey.
• A one (1) month subscription to Red Apron's "Biggie" Butcher’s Box
• Four (4) VIP tickets to the beastliest beer festival of the year -- Snallygaster 2019!

BONUS ROUND: Increase your odds of winning a grand prize package by completing any of the following tasks. Each completed task will receive an extra stamp on your scorecard. The more stamps you have, the more chances you have at winning a grand prize.

• Solve a more difficult clue to find the "bonus" beer at each location.
• Dressing up in costume.
• Find the special "Easter Kegs" hidden at each location.
• Tag any participating location on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter with the hashtag #DCEasterKegHunt.
• And lastly, show us your receipts when turning in your card. We’ll give you up to four extra stamps for every $25 spent over $50 during the event. ($50, $75, $100, $125)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 20, 2019, 08:23:56 am
• Belgian beer tasting for 4 people at The Sovereign w/ Greg Engert, NRG Beer Director

Good Lord. This is the grand prize? I'd stop with the sweatshirt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2019, 08:32:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 20, 2019, 08:23:56 am
• Belgian beer tasting for 4 people at The Sovereign w/ Greg Engert, NRG Beer Director

Good Lord. This is the grand prize? I'd stop with the sweatshirt.
maybe not PTOW...but in the running for POTD
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 22, 2019, 02:35:39 pm
bought these

lagunitas  dark swan  dark sour

Three Notched  Coven  dark sour

Clown Shoes  Cam the Conqueror  Tipa
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2019, 02:40:38 pm
We’ve got a #lowticketwarning for Sunday’s The Gang’s All Here @ 3 Stars

Tickets & taplist: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-gangs-all-here-tickets-58018410628 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-gangs-all-here-tickets-58018410628)

(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/54730396_2909660462407415_2652450013916954624_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=2829e35024b76fe2db47851765d4a709&oe=5D0F6897)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2019, 02:42:42 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 22, 2019, 02:35:39 pm
lagunitas  dark swan  dark sour

interesting sour.  very wine-like, thanks to the use of grapes.  i have a bottle that i'm going to hold on to, for the next time i have a wine-drinker over that says they don't like any beer.   dark swan will change their minds.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 02:48:36 pm
Made out to Vanish Brewery last week
great site...looking forward to going back to play some disc golf

beer was decent, I liked Black Hops and Star Man

grabbed a big bottle of River Run
it was boozy (12.6%)... but delicious

Quote from: sweetcell on March 22, 2019, 02:40:38 pm
We’ve got a #lowticketwarning for Sunday’s The Gang’s All Here @ 3 Stars
some nice other breweries showing up too!
Civil Society, Commonwealth and Manor Hill
also
*Other Half- TBD
*J Wakefield TBD
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 26, 2019, 08:48:21 am
Do all sours taste like leftover thick yogurt, or have I just tasted the wrong ones?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 26, 2019, 09:53:53 am
Quote from: K8teebug on March 26, 2019, 08:48:21 am
Do all sours taste like leftover thick yogurt, or have I just tasted the wrong ones?

Name some that you're referring to.

Are you referring to barrel aged sours ala Cascade, Allagash, etc. or are you referring to kettle sours like goses or are you referring to the fruit infused dessert sours that seem to be the rage these days?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2019, 12:48:10 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on March 26, 2019, 08:48:21 am
Do all sours taste like leftover thick yogurt, or have I just tasted the wrong ones?

was the beer actually thick?  as in, ropey or even snotty?  if so, you've had a sick beer, caused by a bacteria called pediococcus:

Quote
Pediococcus may also cause “ropiness” (also called a "sick beer") due to the production of exopolysaccharides when exposed to a fresh sugar source. "Ropy" or "sick" beer is more viscous and, in extreme circumstances, can form strands. Sickness effects mostly the mouthfeel and appearance of the beer, and may have no influence on the flavor. It is considered a temporary flaw in sour beer. Some brewers, including Vinnie Cilurzo from Russian River Brewing and some Belgian lambic producers, claim that after the ropiness goes away (generally in 3-6 months [10]) it produces a deeper acidity and mouthfeel, and is viewed as a positive process in the production of sour beer [11]. For other brewers, ropy beer is seen as a nuisance due to the beer needing to be aged for a longer period of time, especially when it occurs shortly after bottling. Pediococcus species can also produce diacetyl with extended storage time [12]. Brettanomyces can break down exopolysaccharides and diacetyl produced by Pediococcus and the two are often used together. (from http://www.milkthefunk.com/wiki/Pediococcus)

video of a sick beer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub31Pq_IKJw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub31Pq_IKJw)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2019, 02:09:14 pm
man everything I read recently is getting me depressed

How the World’s Biggest Brewer Killed the Craft Beer Buzz

Is the party over for indie suds? (https://medium.com/s/story/how-the-worlds-biggest-brewer-killed-the-craft-beer-buzz-e205a28ff632)

#SeekTheSeal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2019, 03:09:54 pm
the sky is not falling.  relax.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 27, 2019, 12:02:35 pm
I have had a sour out at Cushwa Brewery and one at Guinness...so probably not the best selection?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 27, 2019, 12:03:54 pm
I really wish Cloudburst would also move out here. Some of the best beer I've ever had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2019, 01:38:52 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on March 27, 2019, 12:03:54 pm
I really wish Cloudburst would also move out here. Some of the best beer I've ever had.

i'll share you thoughts with the staff when i visit this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 27, 2019, 02:25:37 pm
MoCo Brewfest


http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1101988015978&ca=561e9205-a075-4e8f-8e5e-40827e663fea
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 27, 2019, 03:06:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 27, 2019, 01:38:52 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on March 27, 2019, 12:03:54 pm
I really wish Cloudburst would also move out here. Some of the best beer I've ever had.

i'll share you thoughts with the staff when i visit this weekend.

SO JEALOUS.

They know I love them :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2019, 09:25:11 am
Might have to make my way to this.

Join The Sovereign on Saturday, April 6th as we celebrate our third anniversary! To mark the occasion, we will feature 25 world-renowned beers from our favorite producers, including Cantillon, Hill Farmstead, Allagash and more!

On this very special day, we will tap 3 extremely rare Cantillon kegs. Making it’s DC debut is Carignan, a two-year-old Lambic matured on French wine grapes. Not to be outdone, we’ll also pour Fou’Foune and Saint Lamvinus, two world-renowned classics.

Our friends from Hill Farmstead & Allagash have also sent us an amazing collection of brews, such as Hill Farmstead’s Convivial Suarez and Clara, as well as Allagash’s Coolship Red & Coolship Resurgam.

Last but not least, we have assembled a list of amazing spontaneously fermented beers, from classic Lambic producers like Drie Fonteinen, De Cam & Tilquin, as well as contemporary brewers Pen Druid & Jester King!

There is no admission fee for this event. All featured drafts will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours. Featured bottles will be available in 4 oz. tasting pours.

THE OFFICIAL THIRD ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION LIST:
– Allagash Coolship Red (Oak BA Wild Ale w/ Raspberry; Draft)
– Allagash Coolship Resurgam (Oak BA Wild Ale; Draft)
– Allagash FV 13 (Sour Blond Ale; Draft)
– Cantillon Carignan (Lambic w/ Carignan Grapes; Draft)
– Cantillon Fou’Foune (Lambic w/ Apricot; Draft)
– Cantillon St. Lamvinus Saint Lamvinus (Lambic w/ Merlot & Cab Franc Grapes; Draft)
– De Cam Framboise-Lambiek (Lambic w/ Raspberry; BTL Pour)
– Drie Fonteinen Cuvee Armand & Gaston (Gueuze Lambic; BTL Pour)
– Drie Fonteinen Framboos (Lambic w/ Raspberry; BTL Pour)
– Drie Fonteinen Hommage (Lambic w/ Raspberry & Cherry: BTL Pour)
– Hill Farmstead Clara (Grisette; Draft)
– Hill Farmstead Convivial Suarez (Saison w/ Hibiscus & Lemon; Draft)
– Hill Farmstead Florence (Saison; Draft)
– Jester King SPON (Oak BA Wild Ale; Draft)
– Jester King SPON Grapefruit (Oak BA Wild Ale w/ Grapefruit; Draft)
– Pen Druid Mures de Fantaisie (Wild Ale w/ Blackberry; Draft)
– Pen Druid TBD
– Struise Black Damnation XXVI: Froggie (Wine BA Imperial Stout; Draft)
– Struise Dark Horse Reserva (Wine BA Wild Ale; Draft)
– Tilquin Groseille (Lambic w/ Black Current; BTL Pour)
– Tlquin Mure (Lambic w/ Blackberry; Draft)
– The Veil Illusion of Blis (Cherry Wine BA Saison; BTL Pour)
– The Veil TBD
– The Veil TBD
– The Veil TBD
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2019, 03:30:32 pm
no, you NEED to make it to that.  amazing lineup.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2019, 03:34:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 01, 2019, 03:30:32 pm
no, you NEED to make it to that.  amazing lineup.
I dunno...I've had TBD before and its all over the map, almost never the same as the last TBD I had
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2019, 07:17:45 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2019, 03:34:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 01, 2019, 03:30:32 pm
no, you NEED to make it to that.  amazing lineup.
I dunno...I've had TBD before and its all over the map, almost never the same as the last TBD I had

c'mon, they're going to have 3 different vintages of TBD (actually 4, if you count the Pen Druid knockoff).  one of them is sure to RAWK.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2019, 07:31:26 pm
Those who were part of the Forum bottle shares may remember this guy. Apparently he's fallen on hard times.


https://www.americancraftbeer.com/craft-beer-website-founder-arrested-in-doj-beer-hyping-sting/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2019, 07:55:07 am
If only the “beer-hyping” laws had any teeth, we could get degenerates like this off the streets and behind bars where they deserve to be
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2019, 12:46:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2019, 07:31:26 pm
Those who were part of the Forum bottle shares may remember this guy. Apparently he's fallen on hard times.

https://www.americancraftbeer.com/craft-beer-website-founder-arrested-in-doj-beer-hyping-sting/

i was all bah humbug yesterday about april fools jokes/fakes yesterday, but that story put a smile on my face.  possibly because i had 2 of those over-hyped beers (in this case, Reuben's Brews Hazalicious - a very solid hazy).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 02, 2019, 07:04:38 pm
Bell's finally coming to Montgomery County beginning this month.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2019, 10:53:39 pm
Mahou San Miguel, Founders Brewing Partner to Take Majority Control of Avery Brewing
https://www.brewbound.com/news/mahou-san-miguel-founders-brewing-partner-to-take-majority-control-of-avery-brewing

mo' debt mo' problems...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2019, 08:48:29 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 02, 2019, 10:53:39 pm
Mahou San Miguel, Founders Brewing Partner to Take Majority Control of Avery Brewing
https://www.brewbound.com/news/mahou-san-miguel-founders-brewing-partner-to-take-majority-control-of-avery-brewing

mo' debt mo' problems...

Nice spin on your losering, Adam.

“We can use all the expertise we can get,” he said. “There is some crazy shit going on in our industry, and it is awesome to have investors who look at this as a long-term play and not as a short-term, turn-and-burn type of thing.

“They think generationally,” he added.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2019, 01:17:40 pm
after years of studies coming up with interesting angles on how drinking is actually good for you
now this  https://www.thisisinsider.com/theres-no-safe-amount-of-alcohol-stroke-risk-2019-4

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 05, 2019, 02:00:17 pm
We all know alcohol is bad! It’s too fun not to be...but it makes life bearable
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 05, 2019, 02:18:28 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2019, 01:17:40 pm
after years of studies coming up with interesting angles on how drinking is actually good for you
now this  https://www.thisisinsider.com/theres-no-safe-amount-of-alcohol-stroke-risk-2019-4 (https://www.thisisinsider.com/theres-no-safe-amount-of-alcohol-stroke-risk-2019-4)

of the studies i read (or read about), it's never the alcohol that is beneficial - it's the antioxidants in the wine, the hop compounds in the beer, etc.  it's the "other things" in the beverage, not the alcohol itself.

so we need new studies: are the other benefits in alcoholic drinks greater than the detrimental effects of the associated alcohol?

gawd i hope so, 'cause damn i'm screwed otherwise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 09, 2019, 03:38:18 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2019, 09:25:11 am
Might have to make my way to this.

Join The Sovereign on Saturday, April 6th as we celebrate our third anniversary! To mark the occasion, we will feature 25 world-renowned beers from our favorite producers, including Cantillon, Hill Farmstead, Allagash and more!

On this very special day, we will tap 3 extremely rare Cantillon kegs. Making it’s DC debut is Carignan, a two-year-old Lambic matured on French wine grapes. Not to be outdone, we’ll also pour Fou’Foune and Saint Lamvinus, two world-renowned classics.

Our friends from Hill Farmstead & Allagash have also sent us an amazing collection of brews, such as Hill Farmstead’s Convivial Suarez and Clara, as well as Allagash’s Coolship Red & Coolship Resurgam.

Last but not least, we have assembled a list of amazing spontaneously fermented beers, from classic Lambic producers like Drie Fonteinen, De Cam & Tilquin, as well as contemporary brewers Pen Druid & Jester King!

There is no admission fee for this event. All featured drafts will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours. Featured bottles will be available in 4 oz. tasting pours.

THE OFFICIAL THIRD ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION LIST:
– Allagash Coolship Red (Oak BA Wild Ale w/ Raspberry; Draft)
– Allagash Coolship Resurgam (Oak BA Wild Ale; Draft)
– Allagash FV 13 (Sour Blond Ale; Draft)
– Cantillon Carignan (Lambic w/ Carignan Grapes; Draft)
– Cantillon Fou’Foune (Lambic w/ Apricot; Draft)
– Cantillon St. Lamvinus Saint Lamvinus (Lambic w/ Merlot & Cab Franc Grapes; Draft)
– De Cam Framboise-Lambiek (Lambic w/ Raspberry; BTL Pour)
– Drie Fonteinen Cuvee Armand & Gaston (Gueuze Lambic; BTL Pour)
– Drie Fonteinen Framboos (Lambic w/ Raspberry; BTL Pour)
– Drie Fonteinen Hommage (Lambic w/ Raspberry & Cherry: BTL Pour)
– Hill Farmstead Clara (Grisette; Draft)
– Hill Farmstead Convivial Suarez (Saison w/ Hibiscus & Lemon; Draft)
– Hill Farmstead Florence (Saison; Draft)
– Jester King SPON (Oak BA Wild Ale; Draft)
– Jester King SPON Grapefruit (Oak BA Wild Ale w/ Grapefruit; Draft)
– Pen Druid Mures de Fantaisie (Wild Ale w/ Blackberry; Draft)
– Pen Druid TBD
– Struise Black Damnation XXVI: Froggie (Wine BA Imperial Stout; Draft)
– Struise Dark Horse Reserva (Wine BA Wild Ale; Draft)
– Tilquin Groseille (Lambic w/ Black Current; BTL Pour)
– Tlquin Mure (Lambic w/ Blackberry; Draft)
– The Veil Illusion of Blis (Cherry Wine BA Saison; BTL Pour)
– The Veil TBD
– The Veil TBD
– The Veil TBD

We made it to this. Pricey but tasty.

First round, world and national favorites:

Cantillion Fou'Foune
Allagash Coolship Red

Second Round, local favorites

The Veil: Vast:One
Pen Druid: Spiritual Plums

The locals fared surprisingly well stacked up against the first round.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 09, 2019, 03:39:16 pm
Stone has completed their mission of teaching the Germans how to brew beer.

https://www.stonebrewing.com/blog/venues/2019/farewell-stone-brewing-berlin
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 10, 2019, 01:00:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 09, 2019, 03:39:16 pm
Stone has completed their mission of teaching the Germans how to brew beer.

https://www.stonebrewing.com/blog/venues/2019/farewell-stone-brewing-berlin

well, that sucks.

i wonder how brewdog will be able to operate the place more profitably than stone?  maybe stone just said "fuck it, we're big enough to absorb this, so let's just call it a loss, and pass it on to someone who can operate it now that setup has been done by us"?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2019, 06:01:07 am
Ninkasi Brewing, the 35th largest craft brewery in the U.S., established in 2006, announced a strategic partnership with EPR Properties, a specialty real estate investment trust (REIT), and Legacy Breweries, a new venture that aims to acquire craft breweries in the U.S.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 12, 2019, 12:55:18 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2019, 06:01:07 am
Ninkasi Brewing, the 35th largest craft brewery in the U.S., established in 2006, announced a strategic partnership with EPR Properties, a specialty real estate investment trust (REIT), and Legacy Breweries, a new venture that aims to acquire craft breweries in the U.S.

i was reading about that.  sad. 

EPR has an interesting business model: "Meanwhile, EPR’s plan is to purchase real estate from its partners, lease the land back and allow them to continue operating" (source (https://vinepair.com/articles/ninkasi-legacy-breweries-epr-sale-analysis/)).  interesting way of extracting profit from one's owned entities... i wonder if it's beneficial in terms of taxes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2019, 02:06:08 pm
Sometimes when everyone else is using their Friday lunch hour to go to the DC Auto Show, you have to instead jog somewhere and get a pint. And a pint of this was the tastiest beer I've had in a while, and I had Cantillion last weekend.

https://untappd.com/b/rar-brewing-marylan-ddh-w-mosaic-and-galaxy/1942462

I also sampled this one:

https://untappd.com/b/bell-s-brewery-mango-habanero-oberon-2019/3144773

Not as good as the RAR beer, but still the best Bell's beer I've tried in a while. Much better than the base beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 12, 2019, 02:54:44 pm
The RAR sounds great. Habanero beers are yucky.

I'm allergic to mango but have had beers with mango with no issue
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2019, 03:26:34 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 12, 2019, 02:54:44 pm
The RAR sounds great. Habanero beers are yucky.

I'm allergic to mango but have had beers with mango with no issue

Generally agree with you on the habanero. I only had a sample, but it seemed like it was light on the habanero, which was a good thing.

I've never been a fan of mangoes per se, but I'm finding i like it in my beer, popsicles, and orange juice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2019, 03:30:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2019, 03:26:34 pm
I've never been a fan of mangoes per se, but I'm finding i like it in my beer, popsicles, and orange juice.
I love them in my Salsa or Mango Chutney
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 12, 2019, 03:37:57 pm
the problem with 95% of hot pepper beers is that they are made as a novelty, as opposed to being a tasty beer.  habaneros are gross when eaten straight, but are delicious when used correctly as part of a recipe.  same can be said of habanero beers: make it overtly spicy and it's gross, but add just a little heat so that you're left wondering at the aftertaste "hey, is that pepper in the finish?!?" and it can be a real treat. 

it's a specific case of the general rule for adding weird stuff to beer:  it should taste like beer, first, with a little weird stuff; not weird stuff that tastes a little like beer.

a really spicy beer would do well at a hot sauce convention because people are there for the heat.  but most beer drinkers want to drink a beer.  the weird stuff shouldn't get in the way of mission #1.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2019, 03:38:26 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2019, 03:30:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 12, 2019, 03:26:34 pm
I've never been a fan of mangoes per se, but I'm finding i like it in my beer, popsicles, and orange juice.
I love them in my Salsa or Mango Chutney

Me too. I guess in reality the only time mango doesn't entirely work for me is the fruit alone itself. At least I'm not allergic to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2019, 08:56:17 pm
Never expected to see a collaboration between Other Half and Genesee.

https://untappd.com/b/other-half-brewing-co-genny-dream-ale/3134569

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 09:06:02 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 05, 2019, 02:18:28 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2019, 01:17:40 pm
after years of studies coming up with interesting angles on how drinking is actually good for you
now this  https://www.thisisinsider.com/theres-no-safe-amount-of-alcohol-stroke-risk-2019-4 (https://www.thisisinsider.com/theres-no-safe-amount-of-alcohol-stroke-risk-2019-4)

of the studies i read (or read about), it's never the alcohol that is beneficial - it's the antioxidants in the wine, the hop compounds in the beer, etc.  it's the "other things" in the beverage, not the alcohol itself.

so we need new studies: are the other benefits in alcoholic drinks greater than the detrimental effects of the associated alcohol?

gawd i hope so, 'cause damn i'm screwed otherwise.
screw science...I have evidence!

102-Year-Old Woman Says Drinking Beer Is the Secret to Long Life (https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/102-year-old-woman-says-drinking-beer-is-the-secret-to-longevity?)




on a actual beer related note
I dusted off the bike and went to the Stillwater Preternatural Cuvée Meet & Greet W/ Brian Strumke at the Soverign  (neither met nor gret as I arrived at 4)

While I liked this
Preternatural Cuvée 1 - Blended, Barrel-Aged Farmhouse Ale with Sauvignon Blanc
Aged 3 years in French & Hungarian Oak / 2 years bottle conditioning - light carbonation | 9.2%

Kinda just tasted like a light cider and wouldn't probably get again

This was very good: Searching For... (Oak BA Stout w/ Sangiovese Grapes)

This also was very interesting...super light and hop smell off the charts, but not a pallet buster
FLOORED NELSON - Pen Druid Collab w/ The Veil Brewing.
Coolshipped hoppy farmhouse N/A IBU  (is that weird? definitely had zero bitterness)



I did get this for GOT watching

Murder of Crows - Reaver Beach Brewing Company
...little boozy, but loved the taste

VA beach is having a Renaissance with beer as of late!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 12:44:48 pm
snobby bartenders have always been my bane...now they are on notice

bar where you serve your self by Nats Park opened this weekend...not a horrible tap list
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57026442_2220267288290359_9098957004772212736_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=9bafab0c518f02db91bf98dcc15b87fc&oe=5D470F20)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2019, 12:47:37 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 09:06:02 am
This also was very interesting...super light and hop smell off the charts, but not a pallet buster
FLOORED NELSON - Pen Druid Collab w/ The Veil Brewing.
Coolshipped hoppy farmhouse N/A IBU  (is that weird? definitely had zero bitterness)

nope, not weird.  zero IBUs, or single-digit IBUs, are very typical of coolship beers.  one of the reasons you normally want IBUs is that they prevent beer from going sour: lactobacillus, a souring bacteria, is inhibited by just a few IBUs. 

but in case case of a coolship beer, or any sour beer, you want lacto to provide sourness - so you cut down, or cut out, the bittering.  another approach is to use aged hops where the alpha acids (which get isomerized into bitterness) have faded.


edit: just noticed on the Wit The Funk page: IBU = 0 (https://www.thebruery.com/beer/wit-the-funk). 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2019, 12:50:50 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 12:44:48 pm
snobby bartenders have always been my bane...now they are on notice

bar where you serve your self by Nats Park opened this weekend...not a horrible tap list
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57026442_2220267288290359_9098957004772212736_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=9bafab0c518f02db91bf98dcc15b87fc&oe=5D470F20)

i got a 4-pack of Wit the Funk and i gotta say, it's a daaaaamn fine funky sour.  recommended.  i need to get back to that Total Wine and grab some more.

nice beer spot, excellent selection for a ballpark.  i'd be there every other inning, to the exclusion of any other beer vendor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 01:04:09 pm
not actually in Nats park

Adjacent to Nationals Park at the intersection of South Capitol and N st SE
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2019, 01:13:48 pm
well dammit.  i should have known it was too good to be true...


so what's the consensus on best beer inside the park these days? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 04:12:06 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 22, 2018, 02:31:08 pm
Merdian Pint coming out to Arlington!
https://www.arlnow.com/2018/10/18/meridian-pint-aims-to-open-first-arlington-location-in-dominion-hills-by-spring-2019/
in the Dominion Hills Centre shopping plaza.
wait...didn't realize they were closing the DC location to open this one
Just went there for the first time last month...least the new one is close to Hutch and I
https://dcist.com/story/19/04/15/like-a-friend-who-just-had-a-kid-meridian-pint-is-moving-to-arlington/
“final Easter Brunch on Sunday, April 21st, 2019 then permanently close at 4pm.”


Quote
in better news...they are rebuilding the Powhattan springs skate park across the street
The Powhatan Springs Skate Park ...hopefully opening in spring 2019
I've not actually put urethane to cement yet...but it's done
looks pretty rad to me
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/56606284_2075474315838959_2249737258720559104_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=053b34b61842d78d7087ad13e3132269&oe=5D773A57)(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/56598200_2075467722506285_6526294271895535616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=ee48f9959f549a7810446044bf994957&oe=5D370FDF)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2019, 01:54:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 03, 2018, 07:35:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 06:57:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2018, 02:37:42 pm
Also, took a gamble on Sapwood today... I think you may have mentioned a long time ago that was your buddy, I split the sour club with a few folks.

NICE!  please please report back on their offerings.  i'd sign up for their club in a heartbeat if i could.

i know both guys behind the project - Mike, who literally wrote the book on american sours (https://www.brewerspublications.com/collections/beer-styles/products/american-sour-beers-innovative-techniques-for-mixed-fermentations), and Scott, AKA Mr. Hop Science (http://scottjanish.com/).  those two have forgotten more about making good beer than most folks will ever learn.  if their commercial output is anything like their homebrews, y'all in for a treat.

Sapwood (https://sapwoodcellars.com/) is now open: Thur & Fri 4-10 PM, Sat Noon-10 PM. 

looking forward to reading a review (Space, you need to actually visit the place first).   

for the anoraks: blog post about brewing their APA (https://www.themadfermentationist.com/2018/10/rings-of-light-hazy-pale-ale.html)

Finally made it to Sapwood on Saturday. We had to tack on 40 minutes of driving to accommodate a stop there....and damn, it was well work it. Their beers are fire. We also hit Monocacy in Frederick...quite respectable but not in the same league as Sapwood.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2019, 01:55:29 pm
Gonna be some damn fine guest taps at the Veil on Sunday.

https://www.facebook.com/theveilbrewing/photos/pcb.2166145286802974/2166140733470096/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2019, 02:41:41 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2019, 01:54:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 03, 2018, 07:35:06 pm
looking forward to reading a review (Space, you need to actually visit the place first).   

Finally made it to Sapwood on Saturday. We had to tack on 40 minutes of driving to accommodate a stop there....and damn, it was well work it. Their beers are fire.

nice!  and: jealous!  Sapwwod is rockin' a 4.28 (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51460/) on BA, so looks like they're doing something right :)  what did you have?

Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2019, 01:54:28 pm
We also hit Monocacy in Frederick...quite respectable but not in the same league as Sapwood.

i had Monocacy once on tap, an IPA - it was fine.

if you're ever in Fredneck again, check out Idiom Brewing Co (https://www.idiombrewing.com/).  they just released a pineapple and mango sour (https://www.facebook.com/idiombrewingco/photos/a.1234256386615723/2646211398753541/) which is getting rave reviews, and are about to package a barrel-aged old ale that i'd love to try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2019, 03:59:29 pm
(Responding to Sweetcell from previous page)

I did notice Idiom and made a note of it. I think we've been to at least three other breweries in Frederick in the past, but only Monocacy merited a return visit.

I think we will be back out that way for some hiking next month, so we'll see...we could also detour to Waredeca and Brookville Beer Farm. Neither have beers worth writing home about, but they're nice if the weather is nice.



I think we had half pours of everything but the stout at Sapwood. They were all good to great, most of them closer to great.

Conference Room 11 – 4.6% ABV: A lightly-hoppy wine-influenced wheat beer. Wine and beer aren’t enemies. Vintners have been selecting cultures that enhance the naturally fruity flavors of grapes. Luckily hops contain many of the same aromatic compounds. So We tried boost the already fruity aroma of German Huell Melon hops with the small addition of wine yeast. The result is all strawberry and cantaloupe with a smooth low-bitterness base.

Lord of Light – 5.6% ABV: Our brand-new pale ale is in the mold of Rings of Light and Danger of Light, but with a more complex blend of hop aromatics from the combination of 50% Australian Galaxy, with 25% each Mosaic and Citra. The result has tropical fruit (passionfruit, papaya) with citrus and some dank herbaceous notes.

Orange Sorbet – 5.6% ABV: One of our favorite variants from 2018 was Orange Sorbet Rings, so we wanted to super-size it with a 200 gallon batch based on Lord of Light! For this one Scott zested more than 100 Cara Cara oranges and heaped in 24 Vanilla Beans from Madagascar. The combination is rich and fruity, but without being sugary sweet.

Atomic Apricot – 5.7% ABV: We took a stainless-steel-fermented pale sour beer and loaded it with apricots at a rate of 2 lbs per gallon. That’s most of what you’ll taste, but we layered in fruity complexity with a moderate dry hopping with Amarillo and Citra, plus fermentation with 12 strains of Brettanomyces. We didn’t back-sweeten or add lactose, so don’t expect it to taste like fruit juice! I also wouldn’t call it a sour IPA as the hops are a complexity rather than the star.

Hop Swirl – 6.8% ABV: : Our extra-New England-y IPA! Hopped with a swirl of Sabro and Citra. Sabro brings a unique range of vanilla, fresh coconut, and tropical aromatics. We wanted to make an almost dessert-like IPA so we boosted the sweetness, and cut the bitterness. Fermented with our house English yeast.

Western Shore – 7.1% ABV: Our East Coast take on a West Coast IPA. Cleaner, drier, and bitterer than our standard IPAs. We dry hopped this one with Simcoe and Strata for a more dank aroma without the juicy frutiness our hazy IPAs usually have. It’s a bit clearer than our usual hoppy beers, but with 3+ lbs/bbl of dry hopping it isn’t crystal.

Grapefruit Cryovolcano – 7.9% ABV: Citra and Mosaic are two of our favorite hops. Together they provide an intense aroma of green pineapple, melon, and grapefruit. 25% of our 4.4 lbs per barrel triple-dry-hopping was with Citra and Mosaic Cryo. The hops already provide grapefruit aromatics, but we wanted to reinforce that with actual grapefruit zest for this 180 gallon mega-variant of Cryovolcano! It took 58 peels to get a citrusy aroma-boost, and slightly elevated bitterness.

Boom, Roasted! – 9.2% ABV: Our second stout, this time an English-inspired Imperial Oatmeal! That means it’s rich, strong, and malty. Flavors include: chocolate, toffee, and faintly woodsy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2019, 04:07:15 pm
I'm not trying to call you a plagiarizer ...but I'd like to hear your review of the beers
It's nice to copy from the site for spelling, ABV and style of beer, but weak sauce to put their description too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2019, 04:26:21 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2019, 04:07:15 pm
I'm not trying to call you a plagiarizer ...but I'd like to hear your review of the beers
It's nice to copy from the site for spelling, ABV and style of beer, but weak sauce to put their description too

Haha.

What stood out for me was that I really liked the mouthfeel of the hoppy beers. And the one sour was just right...sour, not sweet.

That's all I got.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 23, 2019, 07:49:14 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2019, 01:54:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 03, 2018, 07:35:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2018, 06:57:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2018, 02:37:42 pm
Also, took a gamble on Sapwood today... I think you may have mentioned a long time ago that was your buddy, I split the sour club with a few folks.

NICE!  please please report back on their offerings.  i'd sign up for their club in a heartbeat if i could.

i know both guys behind the project - Mike, who literally wrote the book on american sours (https://www.brewerspublications.com/collections/beer-styles/products/american-sour-beers-innovative-techniques-for-mixed-fermentations), and Scott, AKA Mr. Hop Science (http://scottjanish.com/).  those two have forgotten more about making good beer than most folks will ever learn.  if their commercial output is anything like their homebrews, y'all in for a treat.

Sapwood (https://sapwoodcellars.com/) is now open: Thur & Fri 4-10 PM, Sat Noon-10 PM. 

looking forward to reading a review (Space, you need to actually visit the place first).   

for the anoraks: blog post about brewing their APA (https://www.themadfermentationist.com/2018/10/rings-of-light-hazy-pale-ale.html)

Finally made it to Sapwood on Saturday. We had to tack on 40 minutes of driving to accommodate a stop there....and damn, it was well work it. Their beers are fire. We also hit Monocacy in Frederick...quite respectable but not in the same league as Sapwood.

Good to know! In my hood!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 24, 2019, 02:44:14 pm

from the book of faces:

"3 Stars Brewing Company
Dropping our newest collab we did with Ocelot Brewing Company tomorrow at 4pm. The Power of Love is a 7.5% DDH Hazy IPA with a ton of Mosaic and Simcoe hops. Big notes of melon and candied peach rings lead into a nice dry finish. We love the spirit of collaboration in this industry and always optimize the opportunity to work with some of our best buds. Super limited with only about 100 cases. Don’t miss it. #madeindc #ddh #craftbeer #acreativedc"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 24, 2019, 04:48:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 15, 2019, 12:47:37 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 09:06:02 am
This also was very interesting...super light and hop smell off the charts, but not a pallet buster
FLOORED NELSON - Pen Druid Collab w/ The Veil Brewing.
Coolshipped hoppy farmhouse N/A IBU  (is that weird? definitely had zero bitterness)

nope, not weird.  zero IBUs, or single-digit IBUs, are very typical of coolship beers.  one of the reasons you normally want IBUs is that they prevent beer from going sour: lactobacillus, a souring bacteria, is inhibited by just a few IBUs. 

but in case case of a coolship beer, or any sour beer, you want lacto to provide sourness - so you cut down, or cut out, the bittering.  another approach is to use aged hops where the alpha acids (which get isomerized into bitterness) have faded.

edit: just noticed on the Wit The Funk page: IBU = 0 (https://www.thebruery.com/beer/wit-the-funk).

forgot to mention: the sourness in sour beer replaces the bitterness in clean beers.  if you don't add bitterness, or sourness, beer ends up being really sweet (and uninteresting, IMO) so you need to cut the sweetness with something.

and in a weird twist, bitterness and sourness don't go well together.  i once made a sour with a heavily hopped base - ended up tossing the whole batch, after a year of aging and then putting it on 10 pounds of apricots.  t'was heartbreaking (and undrinkable).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 24, 2019, 04:52:12 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2019, 02:41:41 pm
if you're ever in Fredneck again, check out Idiom Brewing Co (https://www.idiombrewing.com/).  they just released a pineapple and mango sour (https://www.facebook.com/idiombrewingco/photos/a.1234256386615723/2646211398753541/) which is getting rave reviews, and are about to package a barrel-aged old ale that i'd love to try.

Idiom Brewing Co.
BEER RELEASE: BARREL-AGED OLD TIMES SAKE
(OLD ALE - 8.4%)
Remember back in December when we brewed an Old Ale and had it on tap? Well, the rest of that batch went into both McClintock Distilling Rye and Bourbon barrels.
We let the Old Ale age for 4 months and tasted the resulting product. Each variant was amazing in its own rite, but blending them together allowed the Old Ale to be something truly special!
We are super proud of it as it has all of the flavor contributions of both the Bourbon (vanilla, caramel, smooth) and the Rye (spice, oak).

i'd hit that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 25, 2019, 10:31:49 am
Had a good week, so decided to buy some beer from my local beer shoppe

DFH  Dragons and YumYums. The Flaming Lips collab

Cascade mini bottles of  Valley Flora and Brunch Line
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 25, 2019, 02:35:39 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 25, 2019, 10:31:49 am
Had a good week, so decided to buy some beer from my local beer shoppe

DFH  Dragons and YumYums. The Flaming Lips collab

Cascade mini bottles of  Valley Flora and Brunch Line

Flaming Lips, the band . . . god like.  Flaming Lips the beer . . . strange and not really a flavor forward liquid, which shouldn't that be a bad thing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 25, 2019, 07:36:24 pm
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 25, 2019, 02:35:39 pm
Flaming Lips the beer . . . strange and not really a flavor forward liquid, which shouldn't that be a bad thing?

depends what you like.  if you're into easy-drinking, don't-challenge-or-even-wake-my-palette beers, then it sounds great.  i try not to judge. i often fail.

let's hop (!) on the topic of band beers: band and brewery collaborations.... in my mind, the track record isn't great. 
- the sour clutch beer (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/71774/) was pretty awful (they also called it a "Collabeeration", so they lose even more points for that)
- avoid the AC/DC beer (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2891/86372/).
- megadeth (https://www.megadethbeer.com/) did a beer with unibroue (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22/241288/) that was pretty good. 
- i haven't had the iron maiden beer (https://www.ironmaidenbeer.com/) but its reviews aren't stellar (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23394/96511/).  they have a few others, like "hallowed (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23394/303896/)" - also forgettable, apparently.
- predictably enough, primus beer (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/725/7682/) sucks (both of them (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bralima_Brewery#Primus_beer)).
- i think i tried the gwar collab beer (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/17981/184067/), but can't remember for sure

(to be clear, i'm talking about beers where the band/musician actually "collaborated" in its production, for whatever that's worth... i'm not talking about beers that were named after a band with no involvement, a la Abita Purple Haze...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 25, 2019, 08:55:44 pm
It’s gotten hard to find Rolling Rock....few stores carry it and even fewer bars serve it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 25, 2019, 11:17:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 25, 2019, 07:36:24 pm

let's hop (!) on the topic of band beers: band and brewery collaborations.... in my mind, the track record isn't great. 
I've had a NOFX IPA released pre-vegas that was drinkable
I wanted to, but was unable to try the  Guided by Voices DFH colab:  BEER Thousand....hutch, did you try this?
The GWAR one wasn't horrible, but wouldn't buy again (so I guess it was horrible)

Hadn't heard of this, but I think Smakie would approve
(https://d3l207izes6a7a.cloudfront.net/images/article/section/CCBC_StayGoldStillWeb-.jpg)

This also sounds good...great can art
(https://d3l207izes6a7a.cloudfront.net/images/article/section/mikkeller-the-national.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 26, 2019, 08:49:24 am
Quote from: Joe Biden on April 25, 2019, 08:55:44 pm
It’s gotten hard to find Rolling Rock....few stores carry it and even fewer bars serve it

I get Rolling Rock and Yeungling confused. I had to look up with one was Trumpsters.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 26, 2019, 09:03:47 am
Easy to do as both are blue collar beers from Pennsylvania where I am from
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on April 26, 2019, 10:01:34 am
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 25, 2019, 11:17:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 25, 2019, 07:36:24 pm

let's hop (!) on the topic of band beers: band and brewery collaborations.... in my mind, the track record isn't great. 
I've had a NOFX IPA released pre-vegas that was drinkable
I wanted to, but was unable to try the  Guided by Voices DFH colab:  BEER Thousand....hutch, did you try this?
The GWAR one wasn't horrible, but wouldn't buy again (so I guess it was horrible)

Hadn't heard of this, but I think Smakie would approve
(https://d3l207izes6a7a.cloudfront.net/images/article/section/CCBC_StayGoldStillWeb-.jpg)

This also sounds good...great can art
(https://d3l207izes6a7a.cloudfront.net/images/article/section/mikkeller-the-national.jpg)

I had the version of Stay Gold that was done with RTJ and Burial.  I also had the one with Interboro.  Both were very good.  If they are continuing to replicate the same beer, it should be quite good.

I had the Iron Maiden Trooper English Brown.  It was pretty good as well. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 26, 2019, 01:21:44 pm
I'll be at the Veil tomorrow for lunch and the Answer for dinner...if any of my Richmond or beer geek fans want to say hello...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2019, 02:14:33 pm
space freely fan club?
So what are the membership costs and what kind of benefits can we expect
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 26, 2019, 02:14:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 26, 2019, 01:21:44 pm
I'll be at the Veil tomorrow for lunch and the Answer for dinner...if any of my Richmond or beer geek fans want to say hello...

I will probably be in Richmond the week before March 3...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 26, 2019, 02:20:50 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2019, 02:14:33 pm
space freely fan club?
So what are the membership costs and what kind of benefits can we expect
Sounds like something we could make a ratio out of!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2019, 02:32:04 pm
Quote from: Julian, Thinly-Veiled Outrage IMPRESARIO on April 26, 2019, 02:20:50 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2019, 02:14:33 pm
space freely fan club?
So what are the membership costs and what kind of benefits can we expect
Sounds like something we could make a ratio out of!!
yeah, like would you get live updates of ALL the songs he heard while grocery shopping
possibly a daily digest of things he and his family didn't recognize in pop culture
VIP members would get old registration forms from his legendary Saturn
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 29, 2019, 01:04:12 pm
the future of beer....amazon (https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/sightlines/2019/4/15/a-prime-opportunity-amazon-is-hiring-an-alcohol-lobbyist)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2019, 02:08:07 pm
It was good seeing all my fans down in Richmond on SAturday. Next stop on the brewery tour is likely to be Pen Druid on Mother's Day weekend, after a hike.

Though stout season is over, this beer from the Veil was the MVP of the day. Sounds like it would be a hot mess, but it was something special. So smooth and silky. The Answer does some dame fines stouts and Joose, too.

Eternal Slumber is a special blend of Sleeping Forever Imperial Stout aged in Cognac, BliS Maple Bourbon, Muscatel barrels used to finish rye whiskey, and Laird’s Apple Brandy barrels, all conditioned on hundreds of pounds of coconut. Possibly the most complex, layered stout we’ve ever released. Dense, viscous, dark chocolate cake, frosted cinnamon rolls, Mounds bar, and Samoas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2019, 02:09:52 pm
This sounds pretty awesome.

Join The Sovereign on Thursday, May 9th for a very special evening with one of our favorite breweries, Jester King. On this night, we will feature 15 different beers from our friends in Austin, TX.

Located in the Texas Hill Country, Jester King is at the forefront of expressing terroir in American craft brewing. All of their beers are fermented with their house blend of native wild yeast, locally grown malt, and their own well water.

Highlights from the list include an extremely rare keg of Viking Metal, a Swedish farmhouse ale brewed with smoked rye malt, juniper & sweet gale, then aged in Old Tom Gin barrels.

Not to be outdone, we will also feature Vague Recollection, a blend of Das Überkind & Bière de Miel, refermented on Tempranillo & Sangiovese grape pomace.

There is no admission fee for this event and all Jester King beers will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours.

THE OFFICIAL JESTER KING EXTRAVAGANZA BEER LIST
– Americaine (Mixed Ferm Saison; Draft)
– Aurelian Lure (Sour Blond Ale w/ Apricots; Draft)
– Blanc du Bois (Sour Blond Ale w/ Blanc du Bois Grapes; BTL Pour)
– Cerveza de Tempranillo (Sour Red Ale w/ Tempranillo Grapes; Draft)
– Das Uberkind (Mixed Ferm Saison; Draft)
– Detritivore (Sour Red Ale w/ Cherries; BTL Pour)
– Gotlandsdricka (Saison w/ Smoked Malt, Juniper & Sweet Gale; Draft)
– Le Petit Prince (Biere De Table; Draft)
– Mad Meg (Mixed Ferm Strong Blond Ale; BTL Pour)
– Noble King (Dry-Hopped Mixed Ferm Saison; BTL Pour)
– Nocturn Chrysalis (Sour Red Ale w/ Marionberry; BTL Pour)
– Provenance: Lemon & Lime (Mixed Ferm Saison w/ Lemon & Lime; Draft)
– Snorkel (Mixed Ferm Saison w/ Mushrooms; BTL Pour)
– Vague Recollection (Sour Red Ale w/ Tempranillo & Sangiovese Pomace; Draft)
– Viking Metal (Oak BA Saison w/ Smoked Malt, Juniper & Sweet Gale; Draft)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2019, 02:11:21 pm
This also sounds pretty awesome.

It’s hard to believe, but ChurchKey turns ten years old this October. In true ChurchKey fashion, we’re celebrating with a series of huge events, massive tap takeovers and unbelievable beer dinners from now until the end of the year!

Join us on Saturday, May 11th as we kick off our tenth anniversary series with our friends at The Veil, Trillium, Other Half, Monkish, Bissell Brothers and Hudson Valley. While we’re still finalizing the list, you can expect nearly 30 incredibly rare beers on draft!

Highlights from the lineup include Monkish Foggier Window, Other Half Triple Nelson Daydream and Trillium Double Dry-Hopped Sleeper Street. Not to be outdone, we’re also pouring kegs of Hudson Valley Animal Balloon, Bissell Brothers Industry Versus Inferiority, plus a slew of specialties from The Veil.

There is no admission fee for this event. All featured beers will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours.

THE CHURCHKEY TENTH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION: VOL. 1 LIST
 Bissell Brothers Brewing Company
– Industry Versus Inferiority (IPA w/ Idaho 7)
– Substance (IPA w/ Falconer’s Flight, Centennial, Eureka & Chinook)
– Reciprocal (Double IPA w/ Vic Secret, Ella & Summer)

Hudson Valley Brewery
– Animal Balloon (Oak BA Sour IPA w/ Passionfruit, Lemon Balm & Vanilla)
– Total Internal Reflection (Sour IPA w/ Citra, Azacca & Lactose)

Monkish Brewing Company
– 2-1 & Lewis (Double IPA w/ Motueka & Galaxy)
– Foggier Window (Double IPA w/ Citra, Nelson Sauvin & Galaxy)
– Really Real (Double IPA w/ Galaxy & Amarillo)

Other Half Brewing Company
– DDH All Green Everything (Triple IPA w/ Amarillo, Motueka, Citra & Mosaic)
– DDH Double Mosaic Daydream (Double IPA w/ Mosaic & Lactose)
– DDH Hop Showers (IPA w/ Citra, Amarillo & Ahtanum)
– DDH Small Nelson Everything (IPA w/ Nelson Sauvin)
– Triple Nelson Daydream (Triple IPA w/ Nelson Sauvin & Lactose)

Trillium Brewing Company
– Blueberry Super Soak (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Blueberries)
– Congress Street (IPA w/ Galaxy)
– DDH Sleeper Street (IPA w/ El Dorado)
– DDH Farnsworth Street (IPA w/ Vic Secret)
– Hineksa (Double IPA w/ Citra, Galaxy & Rice; 3 Chiefs Collab.)
– Fated Farmer: Asian Pear (Oak BA Sour Blond Ale w/ Asian Pears)
– Fated Farmer: Plum (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Plums)
– Wild Sinister Kid: Sour Cherries (Oak BA Sour Red Ale w/ Cherries)

The Veil Brewing Company
 TBD

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 29, 2019, 03:12:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 29, 2019, 02:08:07 pm
It was good seeing all my fans down in Richmond on SAturday.

Though stout season is over, this beer from the Veil was the MVP of the day.
Eternal Slumber

So do you charge for your autographs now? 
That ES does sound good, I can drink stout's all year long
Only time I don't like a big stout is when arrive via a long bike ride...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 29, 2019, 03:33:45 pm
Please post links for vip meet and greet


I need the space freely laminate and signed poster for my collection
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 04:49:27 pm
another new brewery in Falls Church!
https://www.settledowneasybrewing.com
2822 Fallfax Drive,
Falls Church, VA
(odd location, I almost bought a home right down the block)

The name comes from a lyric in the Grateful Dead song Ramble on Rose.   (a negative in my book...but I'm biased ;) )

Head Brewer, Henry Jager looks to have some good creds to his name
Started at Twisted Pine as lead Brewer in Boulder. where he won medals at the Great American Beer Festival (GABF) Spent the last five years at Heavy Seas as Brewing Team Leader
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on May 01, 2019, 04:50:09 pm
You ought to start the Sidehatch Brewery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 04:53:18 pm
Quote from: Joe Biden on May 01, 2019, 04:50:09 pm
You ought to start the Sidehatch Brewery
I definitely don't have the skills or the stamina for that

now, if I won the lottery and could convince a good head brewer to come on board...then maybe
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 05:02:51 pm
Lost Dog Alexandria tomorrow...

Richmond Virginia has become one of the hottest cities in the nation for beer in the past few years.  With that in mind, we have partnered with Reverie Distribution to bring some of these excellent offerings in for our next tap-takeover.  Featuring a rotating lineup of beers from The Answer brewpub, Final Gravity, and The Veil, this is an event not to miss!

We will be tapping:
The Answer: Intent to Distribute Glycol DIPA
The Answer: YeahYeahYeah. Happy Days DIPA
The Answer: Ten Middle Fingers Brown Ale
The Veil: whitemiata IPA
The Veil: Too Easy IPA
The Veil: dirtybugatti TIPA
Final Gravity: Spashdown DIPA
Final Gravity: Aurora DIPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 01, 2019, 05:07:37 pm
I had a veil dirtybugatti earlier this week. That’s damn good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 01, 2019, 05:29:49 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 04:53:18 pm
Quote from: Joe Biden on May 01, 2019, 04:50:09 pm
You ought to start the Sidehatch Brewery
I definitely don't have the skills or the stamina for that

now, if I won the lottery and could convince a good head brewer to come on board...then maybe

whereas if i won the lottery, i'd want to do the brewing - and would bring on others do to the rest, AKA management (finances, sales, distribution, marketing, HR, gov't & licencing, etc). 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 01, 2019, 06:16:53 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 05:02:51 pm
Lost Dog Alexandria tomorrow...

Richmond Virginia has become one of the hottest cities in the nation for beer in the past few years.  With that in mind, we have partnered with Reverie Distribution to bring some of these excellent offerings in for our next tap-takeover.  Featuring a rotating lineup of beers from The Answer brewpub, Final Gravity, and The Veil, this is an event not to miss!

We will be tapping:
The Answer: Intent to Distribute Glycol DIPA
The Answer: YeahYeahYeah. Happy Days DIPA
The Answer: Ten Middle Fingers Brown Ale
The Veil: whitemiata IPA
The Veil: Too Easy IPA
The Veil: dirtybugatti TIPA
Final Gravity: Spashdown DIPA
Final Gravity: Aurora DIPA

Any Veil IPA > and Answer IPA

Not sure where Final Gravity falls in that comparison, Triple Crossing is probably in between Veil and Answer.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 08, 2019, 04:02:45 pm
Aslin shooting for June opening in Alexandria.

https://alexandrialivingmagazine.com/business/aslin-beer-shoots-for-june-opening-in-alexandria/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2019, 04:42:15 pm
^ that is some sweet news
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 08, 2019, 06:34:19 pm
My trip from work to pick up cans goes from 30 minutes to 55.  Trips form the house remain an hour.

Sapwood Cellars is going to see a lot more of me now than they already do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 08, 2019, 06:51:04 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on May 08, 2019, 06:34:19 pm
My trip from work to pick up cans goes from 30 minutes to 55.  Trips form the house remain an hour.

Sapwood Cellars is going to see a lot more of me now than they already do.

They're still going to sell cans in Herndon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 08, 2019, 10:03:43 pm
That's good to hear. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 09, 2019, 07:04:01 pm
beer news story of the year?

Boston Beer Company & Dogfish Head Brewery Are Merging (https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/boston-beer-company-dogfish-head-brewery-are-merging.613754/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2019, 08:24:43 am
Boston fishhead beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 10, 2019, 08:44:01 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 09, 2019, 07:04:01 pm
beer news story of the year?

Boston Beer Company & Dogfish Head Brewery Are Merging (https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/boston-beer-company-dogfish-head-brewery-are-merging.613754/)

Will Sam Caligione now be called "Sam Adams?"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 10, 2019, 11:36:41 am
400,000 shares at $314.60 per share?  Yes, please.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 10, 2019, 12:03:49 pm
They're just setting themselves up for the inevitable ABI vs Moulson/Coors bidding war.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2019, 12:29:36 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on May 10, 2019, 11:36:41 am
400,000 shares at $314.60 per share?  Yes, please.
kinda forgot they were public SAM
was at 137 in june of 17...quite a rise in the last two years

they have always been in a weird spot in the brewing world...
but I agree since they are public, what is stopping one of these big guys from just eating them up, now that they have another reputable brand in their stable

my recommendation: BUY! (the stock ...not the beer)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 10, 2019, 12:59:09 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on May 10, 2019, 11:36:41 am
400,000 shares at $314.60 per share?  Yes, please.

had to look that up, i didn't get into the financials. 

so BBW bought DFH for a little over $300M, of which $128M is going to the Calagiones and $173M to DFH shareholders.  i realize that the buyers paid way too much so this isn't apples to apples, but given that Ballast Point went for a billion i would have that that DFH would be worth more than 3 mils...

good for sam g.  he's an OG, he deserves his nest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2019, 01:03:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 10, 2019, 12:59:09 pm
Ballast Point went for a billion
Curious how they are feeling about return on that investment
I can't see anyway that was a good choice.
Love the brand, but it's never going to make that kind of money
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 10, 2019, 02:48:14 pm
Quote from: stollen-hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2019, 12:29:36 pm
but I agree since they are public, what is stopping one of these big guys from just eating them up, now that they have another reputable brand in their stable

In the case of ABI - just the competition authorities. 
In the case of MolsonCoors, their new focus on cannabis.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 11, 2019, 10:36:57 am
Merging with our longtime friends-in-beer (https://www.dogfish.com/blog/merging-boston-beer)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 16, 2019, 01:04:21 pm
another excellent read from the mad fermentationist (yes, it's related to Sapwood, but only indirectly)

How to Win Untappd (or any Online Beer Rating) (https://www.themadfermentationist.com/2019/05/how-to-win-untappd-or-any-online-beer.html)

can't argue with a thing he said.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 16, 2019, 01:30:28 pm
^good read!
I know Space won't even discuss a brewery unless it has a 4.+ beer ratings on BA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 16, 2019, 01:59:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 16, 2019, 01:04:21 pm
another excellent read from the mad fermentationist (yes, it's related to Sapwood, but only indirectly)

How to Win Untappd (or any Online Beer Rating) (https://www.themadfermentationist.com/2019/05/how-to-win-untappd-or-any-online-beer.html)

can't argue with a thing he said.
I may not know much about beer but I do know about adroit TASTEMAKING, and I can confirm this is a good strategy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 16, 2019, 04:10:54 pm
Quote from: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 16, 2019, 01:30:28 pm
^good read!
I know Space won't even discuss a brewery unless it has a 4.+ beer ratings on BA

BA is old news. I only look at the untapped scores these days.

I do agree that a 4.3 Czech Pilsner is probably more interesting than a 4.3 DIPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 16, 2019, 04:35:50 pm
Quote from: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 08, 2014, 10:30:45 am
this guy put together a great site as a resource for all the breweries/brewpubs along the WO&D bike trail
http://www.bikeablebrews.com/ (http://www.bikeablebrews.com/)
but on a 45 mile ride there are 10 breweries/brewpubs along the WO&D bike ...ending with Adroit
Wow...checked the site today...there are now 25 breweries within ~1 mile (9 pretty much on the trail) of the WO&D trail!

Yes...some of them are mediocre, but damn that's a lot of options on one stretch of road

New District Brewing Company 
Audacious Aleworks
Mad Fox
Caboose Brewing
Bike Lane
Lake Anne Brew House
Aslin Beer Company 
Beltway Brewing  
Crooked Run Brewing (Sterling)
Rocket Frog Brewing Company
Craft of Brewing
Dynasty Brewing Company
Old Ox Brewery
Lost Rhino Brewing
Kettles and Grains
Dog Money Restaurant & Brewery
Loudoun Brewing Company
Crooked Run Brewing
Black Walnut Brewery
BikeTrAle Brewing
Black Hoof Brewing
Belly Love Brewing 
Dragon Hops Brewing
Jack's Run Brewing
Adroit Theory Brewing 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 17, 2019, 03:00:10 pm

sour festie @ mad fox this weekend: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sour-mania-sour-beer-festival-at-mad-fox-brewing-company-tickets-59508014072 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sour-mania-sour-beer-festival-at-mad-fox-brewing-company-tickets-59508014072) 
     
 (https://img.evbuc.com/https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.evbuc.com%2Fimages%2F59256204%2F115030515293%2F1%2Foriginal.20190328-013610?w=800&auto=compress&rect=285%2C0%2C2554%2C1277&s=dd841ab2b4110756294b32823a3d8db2)
 
Pucker-up and join us our 2nd Annual Sour Beer Festival! Sample special and limited edition sour ales from around the region and across the country at this indoor event! Enjoy live music and fantastic food while sipping some truly tart ales.

Admission to the brewpub is free and space is available on a first come, first served basis. Please call the restaurant for table reservations. Tasting begins at 11am on Saturday. Check out our sampler package offer available online only.

Sour Ale Pricing on the day of the event:
- 4oz pour (sampler) - $3.50
- 10oz pour (half pint) - $7.50 for MF Sours; $8 for Guest Sours

Sampler Package - Avail as an Online Advance Purchase Only:
- Four, 4oz sour ale samplers and a bar snack for $20

Participating Breweries:

Mad Fox Sours:
- Pop Gose the Fox - Mad Fox Brewing Company, Falls Church, Virginia (4.0% ABV)
- Cherry Pop Gose the Fox, Mad Fox Brewing Company, Falls Church, Virginia (4.0 % ABV)
- Nedward Flanders-style Sour Red Ale - Mad Fox Brewing Company, Falls Church, Virginia (5.1 % ABV)
- 2015 Barrel-Aged and Soured Batch 500 Ale - Mad Fox Brewing Company, Falls Church Virginia (9.0 ABV)

Guest Sours:
- Illusion of Safety with Acerola, Papaya and Mango - Adroit Theory Brewing Company, Purcellville, Virginia (4.5% ABV)
- Driven to Tears - Bluejacket, Washington D.C. (4.8%)
- Barrel Select Gold - Captain Lawrence Brewing Company, Elmsford, New York (6.5% ABV)
- Pinch of Salt – Lemon Chiffon Gose - D9 Brewing Company, Norman, North Carolina (4.5% ABV)
- SuperEIGHT - Dogfish Head Brewery, Milton, Delaware (5.3 % ABV)
- Lindemans Young Lambic - Brouwerij Lindemans, Vlezenbeek, Belgium (5.0% ABV)
- Fruitlands - Modern Times Beer, San Diego, California (4.8% ABV)
- Shammit Finnegan Ginger Matcha Gose - The Oozlefish Craft Brewery, Fort Monroe, Virginia (3.5% ABV)
- Bersalis Sourblend Grand Cru - Brouwerij Oud Beersel, Beersel, Belgium (8.0% ABV)
- Shark Tears Gose - Pleasure House Brewing, Virginia Beach, Virginia (4.8% ABV)
- Vape Tricks - Prairie Artisan Ales, Tulsa, Oklahoma (5.9% ABV)
- Diamonds, Fur Coat, Champagne - Right Proper Brewing Company, Washington, D.C. (3.8% ABV)
- Grand Cru - Brouwerij Rodenbach, West Flanders, Belgium (6.0% ABV)
- Passionfruit Gose - Three Notch’d Brewing Company, Charlottesville, Virginia (5.1% ABV)
- Sauvignon Blanc Gose - Two Roads Brewing Company, Stratford, Connecticut (4.8% ABV)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 21, 2019, 01:28:24 pm
pour some out for an OG:

John Maier announces his retirement from Rogue Ales (https://brewpublic.com/beer-news/john-maier-announces-his-retirement-from-rogue-ales/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2019, 02:41:39 pm
New Meridian Pint Arlington (https://www.arlnow.com/2019/05/22/meridian-pint-plans-to-open-in-dominion-hills-tomorrow/?fbclid=IwAR3XB0hplibUdGIBRXLo25U9PrVdS3XVSDsv-SBlW8nVhQgH90UnLOFt6P8) is open

That was quick...Skate park is looking rad too
time to go break my ankle and numb the pain with a good pint

beer list is off to a great start too
https://www.beermenus.com/places/2949-meridian-pint-arlington
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 23, 2019, 03:11:42 pm
Quote from: Opium War 2020 ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2019, 02:41:39 pm
New Meridian Pint Arlington (https://www.arlnow.com/2019/05/22/meridian-pint-plans-to-open-in-dominion-hills-tomorrow/?fbclid=IwAR3XB0hplibUdGIBRXLo25U9PrVdS3XVSDsv-SBlW8nVhQgH90UnLOFt6P8) is open

That was quick...Skate park is looking rad too
time to go break my ankle and numb the pain with a good pint

beer list is off to a great start too
https://www.beermenus.com/places/2949-meridian-pint-arlington

MP/BP/S&B used to get better beers. They no longer get Aslin. The don't get Veil (pretty sure they used to). It also seem like they used to get better out of market stuff like Civil Society that they no longer get.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on May 23, 2019, 03:23:39 pm
Space, Sidehatch...we should get together and split 12 ounces
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 23, 2019, 03:29:10 pm
Quote from: Opium War 2020 ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2019, 02:41:39 pm
New Meridian Pint Arlington (https://www.arlnow.com/2019/05/22/meridian-pint-plans-to-open-in-dominion-hills-tomorrow/?fbclid=IwAR3XB0hplibUdGIBRXLo25U9PrVdS3XVSDsv-SBlW8nVhQgH90UnLOFt6P8) is open

That was quick...Skate park is looking rad too
time to go break my ankle and numb the pain with a good pint

beer list is off to a great start too
https://www.beermenus.com/places/2949-meridian-pint-arlington (https://www.beermenus.com/places/2949-meridian-pint-arlington)

i'd like to take a moment to highlight:

Ocelot Barrel-Aged Gravity Always Wins

first off, cool name bro.  guess i won't be able to use it if/when i open my brewery (not that i ever will, but one can dream...)

second, this beer sounds damn delicious.  BBA'ed barleywines are one of my favs these days.  scores on BA are high.  if someone treks out to try this, please report back.

Quote from: Space Freely on May 23, 2019, 03:11:42 pm
MP/BP/S&B used to get better beers. They no longer get Aslin. The don't get Veil (pretty sure they used to). It also seem like they used to get better out of market stuff like Civil Society that they no longer get.

Julian's America awaits you!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on May 23, 2019, 03:45:10 pm
Cool! I will buy the first ounce round Space!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 30, 2019, 09:26:42 pm
Normally, when I got to Maui, I drink copious amount of Bikini Blondes.  And a few beers.

But this time, they have a collaboration  called Star Maps Kolsch, a collaboration between them and Smog City Brewery.  Solid.  Made with local Starfruit but not sweet.

Welcome to the 'ohana.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 30, 2019, 09:29:03 pm
Anyone got any “you must try this” beers in Asheville that are IPAs or stouts?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 31, 2019, 08:59:45 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 30, 2019, 09:29:03 pm
Anyone got any “you must try this” beers in Asheville that are IPAs or stouts?

I haven't kept close track of the Asheville beer scene since we were there two years ago, but my best guess is that Burial is the place to go for the best IPA's and probably stouts as well. No idea how much they distribute beyond the brewery itself. *Note: We didn't actually go there, but I wish we had.

If you find yourself hankering for a wild ale, Wicked Weed Funkatorium is probably still the place to go, even if it is owned by AB InBev.

I think there's lots of beer places in Asheville, but many are mediocre. I might even rate Richmond higher than Asheville at this point.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 31, 2019, 11:04:02 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 31, 2019, 08:59:45 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 30, 2019, 09:29:03 pm
Anyone got any “you must try this” beers in Asheville that are IPAs or stouts?

I haven't kept close track of the Asheville beer scene since we were there two years ago, but my best guess is that Burial is the place to go for the best IPA's and probably stouts as well. No idea how much they distribute beyond the brewery itself. *Note: We didn't actually go there, but I wish we had.

If you find yourself hankering for a wild ale, Wicked Weed Funkatorium is probably still the place to go, even if it is owned by AB InBev.

I think there's lots of beer places in Asheville, but many are mediocre. I might even rate Richmond higher than Asheville at this point.
Thanks, man! Done Wicked Weed before, not my thing. Might see a concert there, though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 31, 2019, 01:56:04 pm
Quote from: NoCaveHatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2019, 01:28:13 pm
made it longer than Sehkraft brewery

Not sure this is any good, but there must have been $500k in brewing equipment in there...so I'm glad to see that it's getting used
 Board Room Brewing Arlington, VA
https://theboardroomva.com/draft-beers/


on an related note....is there something up with search and you can't go that far back anymore?
I know there were posts about Sehkraft and Westover market...but I couldn't find any
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 31, 2019, 02:12:19 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 31, 2019, 11:04:02 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 31, 2019, 08:59:45 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 30, 2019, 09:29:03 pm
Anyone got any “you must try this” beers in Asheville that are IPAs or stouts?

I haven't kept close track of the Asheville beer scene since we were there two years ago, but my best guess is that Burial is the place to go for the best IPA's and probably stouts as well. No idea how much they distribute beyond the brewery itself. *Note: We didn't actually go there, but I wish we had.

If you find yourself hankering for a wild ale, Wicked Weed Funkatorium is probably still the place to go, even if it is owned by AB InBev.

I think there's lots of beer places in Asheville, but many are mediocre. I might even rate Richmond higher than Asheville at this point.
Thanks, man! Done Wicked Weed before, not my thing. Might see a concert there, though.

It should be noted that Wicked Weed and Wicked Weed Fermatorium are two different places. Different beer, different vibe.

 The former has a variety of beer styles, and a more touristy atmosphere (there is a basement that's a little more beer geeky). . We didn't really care for this place.

The latter is more laid back vibe and almost entirely sours. More small plate kind of foods. We did like it there but if sours aren't your thing, it's a big skip.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 31, 2019, 02:35:49 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 30, 2019, 09:29:03 pm
Anyone got any “you must try this” beers in Asheville that are IPAs or stouts?
New Beligum's brewery is in a pretty sweet location and typically have decent to really good stuff on tap
Right on the creek/bike path with tons of outdoor shaded seating
dog and Frisbee friendly
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 31, 2019, 03:11:12 pm
Quote from: Is it just me... ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 31, 2019, 02:35:49 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 30, 2019, 09:29:03 pm
Anyone got any “you must try this” beers in Asheville that are IPAs or stouts?
New Beligum's brewery is in a pretty sweet location and typically have decent to really good stuff on tap
Right on the creek/bike path with tons of outdoor shaded seating
dog and Frisbee friendly

What he said.

I didn't mention it because, well it's New Belgium and you can get all the beers anywhere. Free La Folie on the tour? Hell yeah. I loved the location (like the Fort Collins location too), loved the people and the vibe. Even more than Sierra Nevada, which gets all the attention (and is a fun destination too, though it's not in Asheville).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 05, 2019, 12:22:20 pm
snallygaster 2019 goes on sale tomorrow...this year no tokens, unlimited servings
$50 2-6 PM Regular pass
$100 12-6PM VIP (two hour early entry)

also

https://www.dcbeer.com/event/owens-ordinary-welcomes-sapwood-cellars/
Owen’s Ordinary Welcomes Sapwood Cellars!
June 6 @ 5:00 pm - 11:30 pm

Join Owen’s Ordinary on Thursday, June 6th as we welcome our friends at Sapwood Cellars. On this night, we’ll pour 6 different beers from the exciting young brewery out of Columbia, MD.

Opened in September 2018, Sapwood Cellars is a buzz worthy brewery focusing on hoppy beers and acidic ales. Rarely available outside of their tasting room, don’t miss your chance to see what local beer geeks have been raving about!

Highlights from the list include Meltdown Mango, a Mango Sour IPA hopped with Simcoe and Amarillo; and Salzig, a mixed fermentation Gose fermented with Brettanomyces found in a 25-year-old bottle of Wilhelm Berliner Weisse.

There is no admission fee for this event.
THE OFFICIAL SAPWOOD CELLARS DRAFT LIST
– Cheater Hops #7 (IPA w/ Simcoe, Citra & Mosaic)
– Cedar Hops (Spanish Cedar-Aged IPA w/ Simcoe, Citra & Mosaic)
– Dragon Reborn (Rye Pale Ale w/ Conan, Hallertau Blanc & Mosaic)
– Hoppy Red Ale (Amber Ale w/ Denali & Citra)
– Meltdown Mango (Sour IPA w/ Mango)
– Salzig (Mixed Fermentation Gose)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 07, 2019, 02:16:13 pm
mo' good insight into the complexities of running a brewery.  today's headache: hop contracts.

Join the beer business they said. It’ll be fun they said. - Part 1 (https://www.trimtabbrewing.com/post/join-the-beer-business-they-said-it-ll-be-fun-they-said-part-1)

(AKA "why don't you brew more of that award-winning IPA; and when you finally do, why do i have to go all the way to the brewery to get any?")
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2019, 02:33:10 pm
so what your saying is I should open a Hop farm...as that's where the big demand is
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 07, 2019, 03:00:16 pm
Quote from: Is it just me... ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2019, 02:33:10 pm
so what your saying is I should open a Hop farm...as that's where the big demand is

My brother quit his government job in Seattle with big plans to start a hop farm in upstate New York. He now works in an auto parts factory, growing enough hops for his homebrews and his donation to some collective that allows him to get some mediocre beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2019, 03:15:22 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 07, 2019, 03:00:16 pm
Quote from: Is it just me... ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2019, 02:33:10 pm
so what your saying is I should open a Hop farm...as that's where the big demand is

My brother quit his government job in Seattle with big plans to start a hop farm in upstate New York. He now works in an auto parts factory, growing enough hops for his homebrews and his donation to some collective that allows him to get some mediocre beer.
hmm....maybe I should then become the Hop broker...that's where the money is according to this article

I remember reading that Virginia (or Loudoun co)was talking about getting something passed for tax incentives to encourage more hops grown in VA, but couldn't find any news of it online
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 07, 2019, 03:59:19 pm
Quote from: Is it just me... ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2019, 02:33:10 pm
so what your saying is I should open a Hop farm...as that's where the big demand is

nah - in a few years, we'll be reading blog post from hop farmers saying "everyone wanted hop X and Y, so i planted 1,000 acres of X and Y.  and now that the plants have finally reached their full productive capacity the market has moved and everyone wants different hops!  i need to run these fields for 10 years before i get a return on my investment, and it's only been 4 or 5 and i'm being asked to rip everything out ans start over!!!"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: lily1 on June 09, 2019, 12:47:37 pm
I've got to be in Milwaukee in late September. I think I'll have a Thursday afternoon free and a Sunday afternoon free.  I'd like check out some of the (smaller) breweries there. You gang have a couple of favorites I can put on the list? Must be uber friendly as I won't have a car.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 10, 2019, 10:49:31 am
Sorry. I haven't been to Milwaukee. Do they even make beer there?

When I want to figure out a couple of breweries to visit in an unfamiliar city, I google "Beer Advocate+ city name." that gives you a list of all the beer spots in the city.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/place/city/34/

The breweries are listed in order based upon how well their beers have been rated. So I'd work my way from the top down, seeing which ones are geographically feasible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 10, 2019, 10:59:02 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 10, 2019, 10:49:31 am
Sorry. I haven't been to Milwaukee. Do they even make beer there?
They have the only professional sports team (that I know of) that honors the profession of making beer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on June 10, 2019, 12:50:43 pm
Wisconsin is also home to the only pro sports team with the Flamingo as their mascot. So there's that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Madison_FC
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 10, 2019, 12:59:36 pm
LOL soccer doesn’t count. Get that shit out of here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 10, 2019, 01:02:11 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 10, 2019, 12:59:36 pm
LOL soccer doesn’t count. Get that shit out of here.
at very least... the MLS...but USL League One (USL1) is a professional men's soccer league in the United States and Canada that began its inaugural season in 2019. is really a stretch at calling it Pro Sports
I think they pay the players in potato chips
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 10, 2019, 01:04:45 pm
Quote from: lily1 on June 09, 2019, 12:47:37 pm
I've got to be in Milwaukee in late September. I think I'll have a Thursday afternoon free and a Sunday afternoon free.  I'd like check out some of the (smaller) breweries there. You gang have a couple of favorites I can put on the list? Must be uber friendly as I won't have a car.

i had a consulting gig outside of milwaukee for a few months back in the day.  didn't hit up any breweries, mostly hit up this one belgian cafe that had a great import list... can't remember it at the moment.

while in WI, do avail yourself of New Glarus beer.  their Spotted Cow and Moon Man are very tasty, or at least were back in the day they were.  Raspberry Tart is intense, i loved it but can be too sweet for some folks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on June 10, 2019, 01:32:54 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 10, 2019, 12:59:36 pm
LOL soccer doesn’t count. Get that shit out of here.

Yeah, until the Redskins change their name to the flamingos, there’s only one team on the list!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 10, 2019, 02:18:01 pm
now this is a great idea https://www.craftbeer.com/beercation-destination/airbnbeers-breweries-with-hotels-inns-camping-and-more
(https://cdn.craftbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/20190524113259/CBP19_AirbnBeers_Map_11x17_v2a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 12, 2019, 02:40:26 pm
space...time to quit your lame gov't contracting job and take this

Aslin Beer Company is now hiring a cellarman (what is that)

What we’re looking for:
We are looking for a versatile and passionate individual to join our growing, industry leading craft brewery. The best candidate is a person with at least one year of experience in brewery operations, however, a strong desire to learn and willingness to work hard could warrant consideration without prior experience.
For a full description email a cover letter and resume to jobs@aslinbeer.com.
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64497918_1430171910455560_5095864850005884928_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_eui2=AeHX-QPDVMqgWQQR0QkbtB-eEHUqiNSFW_tuoNP46fiyQoEdRqn7mz4tin2r5xEK9h2iSkIKNYbKHOrODNXJf5gevIpyttQ5UfYkmKczjyEeDQ&_nc_oc=AQmB3UUyCQAhsbsX8tLiS5Drutv77FAHp9ekDJ0wR8FPCM21D1qWShxiXo4PBI_N4x4&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=9e835c1b1c442de936425501b35dfd01&oe=5D887918)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 12, 2019, 02:55:19 pm
https://www.shortsbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/CellarmanJobDescription.docx.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 12, 2019, 03:21:50 pm
Quote from: Vayu-hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 12, 2019, 02:40:26 pm
cellarman (what is that)

there are generally 2 flavors of cellarman:

A) "clean cellarman" - the brewers create the wort, but as soon as the liquid leaves the kettle, gets cooled and is transferred to fermentation tanks, it becomes the cellarman's responsibility.  sanitation is a big part of their job.

B) "barrel cellarman" - as the name implies, it involves babysitting barrels - long-aged stuff like BBA'ed beer, sours, etc.  often involves barrel maintenance, AKA cooperage.  regularly tastes the barrels to track their development, get rid of barrels that have gone bad, provide notes for the blenders, etc.

given their product portfolio, i would expect Aslin's cellarman to be more A than B.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 12, 2019, 03:29:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 12, 2019, 03:21:50 pm
Quote from: Vayu-hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 12, 2019, 02:40:26 pm
cellarman (what is that)

there are generally 2 flavors of cellarman:

A) "clean cellarman" - the brewers create the wort, but as soon as the liquid leaves the kettle, gets cooled and is transferred to fermentation tanks, it becomes the cellarman's responsibility.  sanitation is a big part of their job.

B) "barrel cellarman" - as the name implies, it involves babysitting barrels - long-aged stuff like BBA'ed beer, sours, etc.  often involves barrel maintenance, AKA cooperage.  regularly tastes the barrels to track their development, get rid of barrels that have gone bad, provide notes for the blenders, etc.

given their product portfolio, i would expect Aslin's cellarman to be more A than B.

Based on all the $30 pint bottles of barrel aged stouts they sell, I'm going to go with both A and B. I bet they have plans for a sour program (beyond the kettles) too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 12, 2019, 03:34:41 pm
Just think of the employee discount and all the free tastings
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 12, 2019, 03:37:05 pm
Quote from: Vayu-hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 12, 2019, 03:34:41 pm
Just think of the employee discount and all the free tastings

Somebody made this comment on their FB page. Sounds like James Ford figured out how to sign up for a FB account.

As much as you charge for a beer; is the salary range $100k+?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 16, 2019, 11:29:19 pm
i'm back in Canuckistan (GO RAPS!!!), and this thoroughly enjoyable father's day was brought to me by an 18-bottle mix pack of Unibroue.  there are newer and sexier breweries out there, but it's awesome to return to an old love who won't let you down.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: lily1 on June 17, 2019, 05:21:10 pm
Thanks for the tip!

Quote from: Space Freely on June 10, 2019, 10:49:31 am
Sorry. I haven't been to Milwaukee. Do they even make beer there?

When I want to figure out a couple of breweries to visit in an unfamiliar city, I google "Beer Advocate+ city name." that gives you a list of all the beer spots in the city.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/place/city/34/

The breweries are listed in order based upon how well their beers have been rated. So I'd work my way from the top down, seeing which ones are geographically feasible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 20, 2019, 09:22:52 am
LoCo beer week (https://www.visitloudoun.org/drink/loco-ale-trail/beer-week/)
More than 30 breweries along the LoCo Ale Trail will be featuring events, beer releases and specials in their tasting room to celebrate LoCo Beer Week. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 23, 2019, 11:10:47 am
If Jules was a beer writer: MI MI MI.

https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/2019/06/23/craft-beer-michigan-detroit-free-press/1502890001/

I hope his call for more breweries to clearly show the born on/bottled on date is headed. No, "best before" does NOT cut it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2019, 03:42:33 pm
get yer votes in
https://www.northernvirginiamag.com/beer-2019
Battle of the Brews
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 27, 2019, 01:00:34 pm
Sweet image for a sk8 related brew
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/65440972_1444989515640466_4154668852086571008_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_eui2=AeE71UZJP_B4DPuD7p8N0E8P0vIZYHGSP-Vf5dyWp0gMR1WJf9DBINVMzmOIGDdd9fyB9PMrCaSppkF106hqbM2izlyw56-PHOUd6m70RJP-MQ&_nc_oc=AQkKDYpX-JdxASDHAzDnoclJdGVzuTNWIrZJ2922702wjs8GxJCOnWa6L5wSGwIO9gU&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=50937c1bc2011c125fd31892f8af67aa&oe=5DC2CB47)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 06, 2019, 03:02:04 am
Crashing at a certain SF-based long-time boardee's pad. Fridge stocked with:
- Lost Abbey: Red Poppy
- RR: Pliney
- RR: Blind Pig

Filed a formal compliant because the Pliney was 4 - count'em, FOUR - days old. Sheesh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 12:00:10 pm
umm...just saw something on Aslin's Instagram....Soft Opening in Alexandria!


unrelated...but a brewery named after a label know for straight edge
Founders of New York’s Foreign Objects Beer launch Discord Beer Co., focused on sour IPAs
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D--TbUGUEAAfscc?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/todSlUKoy1vo98W49j/giphy.gif)

later they released this
statement from the Discord Beer team on the subject.

“The Discord image in question was created for Instagram as an homage to Dischord Records. It was never intended for widespread use such as a part of a press release. To cease all confusion we have removed the image.” — Discord Beer Team

this is their logo
(https://www.craftbrewingbusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Discord-Beer-Co..jpg)
 




Quote from: sweetcell on July 06, 2019, 03:02:04 am
Crashing at a certain SF-based long-time boardee's pad. Fridge stocked with:
Jez, showed up at my boat with Narragansett or Coors Light...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 09, 2019, 01:24:48 pm
Quote from: Schmolls-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 12:00:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 06, 2019, 03:02:04 am
Crashing at a certain SF-based long-time boardee's pad. Fridge stocked with:
Jez, showed up at my boat with Narragansett or Coors Light...

buying for someone else vs. buying for himself...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 09, 2019, 03:39:19 pm
Quote from: Schmolls-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 12:00:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 06, 2019, 03:02:04 am
Crashing at a certain SF-based long-time boardee's pad. Fridge stocked with:
Jez, showed up at my boat with Narragansett or Coors Light...
Is that handle of Belvidere still there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 09, 2019, 03:51:07 pm
could have gone under "Belly up, fired, and retired" too:

Quote
TO: Friends of Mad Fox Brewing Company
SUBJECT:: Mad Fox Brewing Company Closure
SENT: July 9, 2019

Friends, Patrons and Supporters,

It is with great sadness and a heavy heart that I inform you of the closure of Mad Fox Brewing Company. Our last day of business will be Sunday, July 21st.

The decision to close has been an extremely difficult one to make. We have witnessed restaurant competition in the 2.2 square mile Falls Church City become fierce since our opening in 2010 with multiple businesses opening in the last year alone. As much as we tried to compete, there are an overwhelming number of choices for the local population. Sales have been on a slow decline over the last several years and, unfortunately, staying open is no longer sustainable.

On the brewing side of our business we continue to see more breweries opening in Virginia with two new Taprooms setting up shop within a mile of Mad Fox in the last year. When we opened in 2010, there were 40 breweries in Virginia. Now there are close to 250. The Brewpub business model is a tough one to maintain compared to a Brewery Taproom with little overhead, lower rents and outsourced food trucks. Our draw from the surrounding areas has dwindled in what has become an extremely competitive craft beer market, which has resulted in this final decision.

We attempted to work with our Bank and our Landlord for more favorable terms and while both were willing, we ultimately could not come to agreement that would allow Mad Fox to be break even or better.

We plan a closure date of Sunday, July 21st; however, we plan to continue with our 9 year Anniversary Party on Saturday, 13 July to honor you, our investors, our staff and the Falls Church Community. Words cannot express how proud I am of the Mad Fox legacy and the opportunity to be a member of such a wonderful community, if even for a short while. We opened the first brewpub in the City of Falls Church and have won numerous medals at the Great American Beer Festival as well as the Virginia Beer Cup. We have celebrated christenings, birthdays, weddings, retirements and many holiday gatherings. You, our guests, along with our spectacular Mad Fox team have enabled us to build tremendous notoriety over 9 years in business. I thank you for allowing Mad Fox to be a part of your lives. Thank you for your years of support and I hope to see you at the Pub in the coming weeks.

Sincerely,

Bill Madden
CEO and Executive Brewer, Mad Fox Brewing Company
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 09, 2019, 03:53:48 pm
Aslin taproom, soft opening...7/15(?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 09, 2019, 04:14:59 pm
That sucks...we have gone there about 20 times...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 04:42:23 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on July 09, 2019, 03:39:19 pm
Quote from: Schmolls-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 12:00:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 06, 2019, 03:02:04 am
Crashing at a certain SF-based long-time boardee's pad. Fridge stocked with:
Jez, showed up at my boat with Narragansett or Coors Light...
Is that handle of Belvidere still there?
nope...took a while, but many olives later it was gone
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 04:49:57 pm
Quote
Quote from: hutch on July 09, 2019, 04:14:59 pm
That sucks...we have gone there about 20 times...
closure of Mad Fox Brewing Company. Our last day of business will be Sunday, July 21st.
a bummer...have been there a few times, never made their fests

beers were just OK though....as they said it's a tough craft beer market in VA and being a restaurant owner has just got to suck....possibly the hardest most volatile jobs out there

but IMO this says it all

When we opened in 2010, there were 40 breweries in Virginia. Now there are close to 250.
especially with all the craft beer sluts who will sleep with any new brewery, even if the beer and service suck, to the detriment of good operations (full disclosure ...I'm a craft beer slut)

I've always thought this was the way to go
Brewery Taproom with little overhead, lower rents and outsourced food trucks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 09, 2019, 05:02:31 pm
I like their beer and the samplers were great
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 09, 2019, 05:11:41 pm
Quote from: Schmolls-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 04:42:23 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on July 09, 2019, 03:39:19 pm
Quote from: Schmolls-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 12:00:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 06, 2019, 03:02:04 am
Crashing at a certain SF-based long-time boardee's pad. Fridge stocked with:
Jez, showed up at my boat with Narragansett or Coors Light...
Is that handle of Belvidere still there?
nope...took a while, but many olives later it was gone
Shit, I have to buy something else for Costello/Blondie.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 05:20:27 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on July 09, 2019, 05:11:41 pm
Quote from: Schmolls-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 04:42:23 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on July 09, 2019, 03:39:19 pm
Quote from: Schmolls-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 12:00:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 06, 2019, 03:02:04 am
Crashing at a certain SF-based long-time boardee's pad. Fridge stocked with:
Jez, showed up at my boat with Narragansett or Coors Light...
Is that handle of Belvidere still there?
nope...took a while, but many olives later it was gone
Shit, I have to buy something else for Costello/Blondie.
currently in dry dock...should be back by then tho
I'm on the fence on that show...love both artists...don't love the price (EC is still on his game...blondie not so much)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2019, 04:21:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 09, 2019, 01:24:48 pm
Quote from: Schmolls-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2019, 12:00:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 06, 2019, 03:02:04 am
Crashing at a certain SF-based long-time boardee's pad. Fridge stocked with:
Jez, showed up at my boat with Narragansett or Coors Light...

buying for someone else vs. buying for himself...

Exactly.  You show up to mine, I take care of you.  I show up at yours, I take care of me.

I also showed sweetcell not one, but two places that serve Pliny on draft within a half mile of my place.  I order the PBR tall boy...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 10, 2019, 04:50:44 pm
We shared a Pliny during a long layover at SFO a few weeks ago. It was pretty meh. The Grimm sour was nice though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2019, 04:58:21 pm
Quote from: vansmack on July 10, 2019, 04:21:50 pm
I also showed sweetcell not one, but two places that serve Pliny on draft within a half mile of my place.  I order the PBR tall boy...
I assume one of them was Toronado...although I think that might be more like a mile from your place
and which pliny...(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61fg%2BW5JE7L._SX425_.jpg) or (https://russianriverbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Pliny-Logo-outlined-PDF-page-001-300x295.jpg)

gotta assume Elder...since it's not Feburary

Also saw they opened a toronado in Seattle...so sweets can go there too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2019, 05:38:59 pm
Quote from: Schmolls-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2019, 04:58:21 pm
I assume one of them was Toronado...although I think that might be more like a mile from your place

No, they were both in Upper Haight, with Murio's being the closest.  Toronado is in Lower Haight, 1.4 miles away, albeit all downhill.

And always the Elder, though Younger can be found all over Divis in February, but you'll never Smackie queuing for shit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2019, 03:47:21 pm
local DMV brewers give props to Madfox and the support he gave to the early DC scene seems tremendous
https://www.dcbeer.com/2019/07/11/bill-madden-mad-fox-brewing-company
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 11, 2019, 04:36:25 pm
I'm a big proponent of the four pack 12 oz format for these big beers as opposed to overpriced bombers. This news probably would have excited me more a couple of years ago, though now I feel like this beer is way to sweet and I prefer KBS and even the regular Breakfast Stout to CBS.



Founders Adding 12-Ounce Bottles for Canadian Breakfast Stout 2019

Brooks WhittingtonJuly 11, 2019

BeersNews0


U.S.-based fans of Founders Brewing Co.’s most popular beer will now be able to enjoy it in smaller bottles for the first time when it is released later this year.

The Grand Rapids, Mich.-based brewery has announced it will be selling 12-ounce bottles of Canadian Breakfast Stout—otherwise known as CBS—when the beer goes on sale this fall. Although the stout was sold as the final release in Founders’ 2017 and 2018 Barrel-Aged Series packaged in 750ml bottles, 12-ounce bottles were not available in the U.S. and were instead shipped exclusively to the 27 countries in the brewery’s international distribution network outside of the U.S., including the county of Canada.

Canadian Breakfast Stout is an imperial stout that is brewed with chocolate and a blend of coffees before being aged for over a year in spent bourbon barrels that were most recently aging maple syrup. Before the 2017 and 2018 rereleases, the beer was first released in bottles in October of 2011, and was rereleased as a draft-only option exclusively in one-quarter-bbl kegs that were distributed to the brewery’s entire 32 state network in 2014.

According to a post on Founders’ website, Canadian Breakfast Stout 2019 will be released nationwide on Nov. 1 packaged in both 12-ounce and 750ml bottles, but will be released at its Grand Rapids and Detroit taprooms “a couple weeks earlier.”

In addition, Founders had indicated that this year’s version will mark the last time CBS will be released “for the foreseeable future” and that the brewery has “no immediate plans to bottle CBS in any format” after 2019.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on July 11, 2019, 05:21:41 pm
Quote from: Ploonet-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2019, 03:47:21 pm
local DMV brewers give props to Madfox and the support he gave to the early DC scene seems tremendous
https://www.dcbeer.com/2019/07/11/bill-madden-mad-fox-brewing-company

Always loved his Orange Whip IPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gavroche on July 11, 2019, 05:56:18 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 11, 2019, 04:36:25 pm
I'm a big proponent of the four pack 12 oz format for these big beers as opposed to overpriced bombers. This news probably would have excited me more a couple of years ago, though now I feel like this beer is way to sweet and I prefer KBS and even the regular Breakfast Stout to CBS.



Founders Adding 12-Ounce Bottles for Canadian Breakfast Stout 2019

Brooks WhittingtonJuly 11, 2019

BeersNews0


U.S.-based fans of Founders Brewing Co.’s most popular beer will now be able to enjoy it in smaller bottles for the first time when it is released later this year.

The Grand Rapids, Mich.-based brewery has announced it will be selling 12-ounce bottles of Canadian Breakfast Stout—otherwise known as CBS—when the beer goes on sale this fall. Although the stout was sold as the final release in Founders’ 2017 and 2018 Barrel-Aged Series packaged in 750ml bottles, 12-ounce bottles were not available in the U.S. and were instead shipped exclusively to the 27 countries in the brewery’s international distribution network outside of the U.S., including the county of Canada.

Canadian Breakfast Stout is an imperial stout that is brewed with chocolate and a blend of coffees before being aged for over a year in spent bourbon barrels that were most recently aging maple syrup. Before the 2017 and 2018 rereleases, the beer was first released in bottles in October of 2011, and was rereleased as a draft-only option exclusively in one-quarter-bbl kegs that were distributed to the brewery’s entire 32 state network in 2014.

According to a post on Founders’ website, Canadian Breakfast Stout 2019 will be released nationwide on Nov. 1 packaged in both 12-ounce and 750ml bottles, but will be released at its Grand Rapids and Detroit taprooms “a couple weeks earlier.”

In addition, Founders had indicated that this year’s version will mark the last time CBS will be released “for the foreseeable future” and that the brewery has “no immediate plans to bottle CBS in any format” after 2019.

That's because last year over priced bombers were sitting on the shelves everywhere I went.  They need something different to help move it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2019, 06:17:43 pm
Quote from: Bagley on July 11, 2019, 05:21:41 pm
Quote from: Ploonet-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2019, 03:47:21 pm
local DMV brewers give props to Madfox and the support he gave to the early DC scene seems tremendous
https://www.dcbeer.com/2019/07/11/bill-madden-mad-fox-brewing-company

Always loved his Orange Whip IPA
plus that name alone made me drink it...probably my most memorable drink there
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l99HL224rxuog/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on July 12, 2019, 02:38:41 pm
RAR Slip-on Pale Ale is excellent
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 12, 2019, 02:43:19 pm
I could watch that John Candy gif for hours
I'm really not sure why it gives me so much enjoyment, but I'm gonna let my freak flag fly
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 12, 2019, 02:53:46 pm
AB InBev pulled out of it's IPO in Hong Kong.  They were trying to erase $10B in debt of it's Asian arm, Budweiser Brewing Co. APAC Ltd.

Maybe I should have put this in the Trump thread because it's being blamed on the Trade Wars, excuse me, "market conditions."

Nah, I'll leave it here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 15, 2019, 11:07:45 am
Aslin taproom opens today.

With a fridge full of Other Half DIPA's and Aslin sours, and headed to Weldwerks in a couple of weeks, not sure how much of a rush I'll be to go there....though it is only 15 mins from myhouse...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2019, 01:21:52 pm
We talking mini fridge full...or 2 x 4-packs full

I am fairly certain that $9 drafts will likely tip the scale on the Space per ounce ratio

they got the draft list finally posted correct
https://www.aslinbeer.com/copy-of-beer-2

some dangerous stouts on there
Glamping - Imperial Stout - 15%
Pisghetti Western - Imperial Stout - 15%
Honolulu - Bourbon Barrel Aged Imperial Stout 16.5%
Honolulu is a Bourbon Barrel Aged Imperial Stout aged for over 20 months and blended with four different bourbon barrels. After all that aging it was conditioned on toasted coconut and a Mexican coffee blend from our friends at Mostra Coffee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 15, 2019, 02:42:01 pm
Quote from: Idiopathic-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2019, 01:21:52 pm
We talking mini fridge full...or 2 x 4-packs full

I am fairly certain that $9 drafts will likely tip the scale on the Space per ounce ratio

they got the draft list finally posted correct
https://www.aslinbeer.com/copy-of-beer-2

some dangerous stouts on there
Glamping - Imperial Stout - 15%
Pisghetti Western - Imperial Stout - 15%
Honolulu - Bourbon Barrel Aged Imperial Stout 16.5%
Honolulu is a Bourbon Barrel Aged Imperial Stout aged for over 20 months and blended with four different bourbon barrels. After all that aging it was conditioned on toasted coconut and a Mexican coffee blend from our friends at Mostra Coffee.

I have a much better selection of Aslin stouts in my basement than they do on draft in their taproom.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2019, 03:37:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 15, 2019, 11:07:45 am
Aslin taproom opens today.
also note
At this location, Aslin has waded into the debate over kids in breweries by closing the taproom to children beginning at 7 PM, and they do not allow dogs.
not very woke of them...but now Julian can go after 7PM he just can't bring a date
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 15, 2019, 04:05:50 pm
I have to admit I was a little blindsided by this drive-by thrashing I just received.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2019, 04:09:43 pm
seems to be all the rage
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 18, 2019, 06:55:23 pm
this probably amounts to preaching to the choir, but here goes anyways:

Watch the Hands, Not the Cards — The Magic of Megabrew (https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/2017/5/5/watch-the-hands-not-the-cards-the-magic-of-megabrew)

^ for the next time someone asks you why AB InBev is buying yet another craft brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 19, 2019, 03:12:58 pm
Maine Beer Company Dinner on draft at H Street Whole Foods. 16 oz for $9. No growler fills. As a beer geek, I believe I'm required to stop by for one after work.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 19, 2019, 04:07:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 18, 2019, 06:55:23 pm
this probably amounts to preaching to the choir, but here goes anyways:

Watch the Hands, Not the Cards — The Magic of Megabrew (https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/2017/5/5/watch-the-hands-not-the-cards-the-magic-of-megabrew)

^ for the next time someone asks you why AB InBev is buying yet another craft brewery.

tldr; $
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 19, 2019, 04:16:00 pm
Quote from: vansmack on July 19, 2019, 04:07:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 18, 2019, 06:55:23 pm
this probably amounts to preaching to the choir, but here goes anyways:

Watch the Hands, Not the Cards — The Magic of Megabrew (https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/2017/5/5/watch-the-hands-not-the-cards-the-magic-of-megabrew)

^ for the next time someone asks you why AB InBev is buying yet another craft brewery.

tldr; $
it was a pretty good read, but your summary is accurate

Was interesting to understand it has a lot more to do with their brand value of their flagship brands, than buying up the competition and screwing over those left

The big guys always had a tight control on distribution
but now they are really f'n with sourcing of ingredients and they are trying to push the price down of craft 6 packs of the ones they bought
mostly so their shit swill can still be called 'premium'
but obviously will push out the small guys who are already running on thin margin

Beer is so freaking expensive now...Once the economy takes even the slighted downturn, LOTS of these craft breweries are going to implode
but honestly it's needed, some good ones won't survive...but what can ya do


On a side note...this was a good read from that same site
How Nitro Transformed Beer and Coffee (https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/2019/7/2/rising-to-the-tophow-nitro-transformed-beer-and-coffee)

Although nitro now feels ubiquitous in the coffee and beer worlds, it’s a relatively new innovation .... nitro was a happy accident first developed by Michael Ash in the 1950s while he was working on improving Guinness’ shelf life.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 19, 2019, 05:29:30 pm
Quote from: incredible patriot-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 19, 2019, 04:16:00 pm
Quote from: vansmack on July 19, 2019, 04:07:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 18, 2019, 06:55:23 pm
this probably amounts to preaching to the choir, but here goes anyways:

Watch the Hands, Not the Cards — The Magic of Megabrew (https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/2017/5/5/watch-the-hands-not-the-cards-the-magic-of-megabrew)

^ for the next time someone asks you why AB InBev is buying yet another craft brewery.

tldr; $

it was a pretty good read, but your summary is accurate

i'd say it's accurate (it's ultimately about money) just lacking in detail (to be expected in a one-character summary of a 2,000 word article).

my summary: AB uses the corpses of craft breweries to prop up Bud Light.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 09:13:14 am
My wife asked me to take her on a date Saturday to either Dominion Wine and Beer or Aslin Alexandria. We did the latter.

First time there, Saturday mid-afternoon. Crowded and loud. They ran out of take home beer in Herndon Friday and Alexandria Saturday. I wonder if it's going to always be like that for a while going forward.

My wife's first comment: "They need to hire some cute female bar staff." My reply: "Or at least some cute guys."

Overall, a good time, Beer was great and we lucked into a pair of seats.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 22, 2019, 09:20:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 09:13:14 am
My wife's first comment: "They need to hire some cute female bar staff." My reply: "Or at least some cute guys."
Another witty bit of banter from the First Couple of Snarky Wokeness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 09:36:58 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on July 22, 2019, 09:20:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 09:13:14 am
My wife's first comment: "They need to hire some cute female bar staff." My reply: "Or at least some cute guys."
Another witty bit of banter from the First Couple of Snarky Wokeness.

It's almost like they went out of their way to hire only ugly men to pour the beer. Instead of money, they are probably paying staff with cans of 15% stout to drink on 100 degree days, so that's the kind of applicant they attracted.

The beer is amazing, but if I'm going to pay a premium to drink it in the taproom instead of at home from the can, I want eye candy, damnit. The Veil actually hires some (reasonably) cute people to pour their beers, why can't Aslin?

On another note, the Space itself reminded me of the Grimm taproom in Brooklyn. Only it was populated with white milquetoast suburbanites instead of white hipsters.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 22, 2019, 09:39:29 am
Hooters is for you!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 09:43:27 am
Quote from: hutch on July 22, 2019, 09:39:29 am
Hooters is for you!

How is their NEIPA and sour selection?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 22, 2019, 02:10:40 pm
Anyone else going to the Union anniversary party on Saturday?

Is Aslin really that good?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 02:43:28 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 22, 2019, 02:10:40 pm
Anyone else going to the Union anniversary party on Saturday?

Is Aslin really that good?

Yes.

I've visited 211 brewery taprooms around the country and the world, and I'd say Aslin holds their own or (mostly) exceeds against any of the other 210.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 22, 2019, 02:50:29 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 02:43:28 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 22, 2019, 02:10:40 pm
Anyone else going to the Union anniversary party on Saturday?

Is Aslin really that good?

Yes.

I've visited 211 brewery taprooms around the country and the world, and I'd say Aslin holds their own or (mostly) exceeds against any of the other 210.

Nice. Good to know it is worth the drive for us :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 02:52:27 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 22, 2019, 02:50:29 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 02:43:28 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 22, 2019, 02:10:40 pm
Anyone else going to the Union anniversary party on Saturday?

Is Aslin really that good?

Yes.

I've visited 211 brewery taprooms around the country and the world, and I'd say Aslin holds their own or (mostly) exceeds against any of the other 210.

Nice. Good to know it is worth the drive for us :)

Are you a fan of Sapwood Cellars? My wife really loved their hoppy beers, but she'd choose Aslin over them in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 22, 2019, 02:57:06 pm
Hmmm wonder how HR would think of this...but I want the shirt of course
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67644812_2332285363522298_8763053715700580352_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQnblewtH4iZOu0ng0L4MxT5lc4qw8r5iwGZ5n2bKQkR4F2iMUgzBm8Gdss-VpDrJbg&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=f10120998d3eeff5ce451fb3ec40223c&oe=5DE71F18)

The Veil Brewing co
We're coming back Saturday, August 10th, 11am-8p for a draft and can pop-up! We're doing a pop-up can release at the The Bruery Store at Union Market with even more cans than last time and pouring new draft at Dock 5 (near the Union Market). We also will be bringing back our shirts and glassware in possible different color wayz 🤗⠀
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 22, 2019, 04:19:11 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 02:52:27 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 22, 2019, 02:50:29 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 22, 2019, 02:43:28 pm
Quote from: K8teebug on July 22, 2019, 02:10:40 pm
Anyone else going to the Union anniversary party on Saturday?

Is Aslin really that good?

Yes.

I've visited 211 brewery taprooms around the country and the world, and I'd say Aslin holds their own or (mostly) exceeds against any of the other 210.

Nice. Good to know it is worth the drive for us :)

Are you a fan of Sapwood Cellars? My wife really loved their hoppy beers, but she'd choose Aslin over them in a heartbeat.

I still haven't been there! There's no excuse as I drive past it almost every day on my way to workout. Good to know. My favorite beer ever is Cloudburst Brewery (and that's a pretty far plane ride away).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 22, 2019, 05:07:37 pm
had some friends of friends drop by our place on sunday to go hiking with us.  turns out the couple are beer nerds, heard that i was a beer nerd, and brought some goodies.  after our hike (legs still sore today), we decided to go soak in the river, and given the rough trek through the woods to get there we decided to leave the fancy beers in the fridge for proper enjoyment later.  stayed by the river for much longer than expected on account of the fun being had.  when we rolled back up to the house it was time for them to leave and they said i should keep the beers.  waved them off, then checked the fridge: a 2014 Dark Lord, along with a 2016 BCBS.


if i got to try DL at boardee bottle-share from back in the day, i don't remember it.  damn psyched to get to try it (again?).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on July 22, 2019, 09:09:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 22, 2019, 05:07:37 pm
had some friends of friends drop by our place on sunday to go hiking with us.  turns out the couple are beer nerds, heard that i was a beer nerd, and brought some goodies.  after our hike (legs still sore today), we decided to go soak in the river, and given the rough trek through the woods to get there we decided to leave the fancy beers in the fridge for proper enjoyment later.  stayed by the river for much longer than expected on account of the fun being had.  when we rolled back up to the house it was time for them to leave and they said i should keep the beers.  waved them off, then checked the fridge: a 2014 Dark Lord, along with a 2016 BCBS.


if i got to try DL at boardee bottle-share from back in the day, i don't remember it.  damn psyched to get to try it (again?).

your story, took me there . . . even if, for fleeting moments.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 23, 2019, 08:25:14 am
Quote from: WalkOnBack on July 22, 2019, 09:09:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 22, 2019, 05:07:37 pm
had some friends of friends drop by our place on sunday to go hiking with us.  turns out the couple are beer nerds, heard that i was a beer nerd, and brought some goodies.  after our hike (legs still sore today), we decided to go soak in the river, and given the rough trek through the woods to get there we decided to leave the fancy beers in the fridge for proper enjoyment later.  stayed by the river for much longer than expected on account of the fun being had.  when we rolled back up to the house it was time for them to leave and they said i should keep the beers.  waved them off, then checked the fridge: a 2014 Dark Lord, along with a 2016 BCBS.


if i got to try DL at boardee bottle-share from back in the day, i don't remember it.  damn psyched to get to try it (again?).

your story, took me there . . . even if, for fleeting moments.

I thought nudity was going to happen at any moment, then I remembered I was in the beer thread.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 23, 2019, 01:01:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 23, 2019, 08:25:14 am
Quote from: WalkOnBack on July 22, 2019, 09:09:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 22, 2019, 05:07:37 pm
had some friends of friends drop by our place on sunday to go hiking with us.  turns out the couple are beer nerds, heard that i was a beer nerd, and brought some goodies.  after our hike (legs still sore today), we decided to go soak in the river, and given the rough trek through the woods to get there we decided to leave the fancy beers in the fridge for proper enjoyment later.  stayed by the river for much longer than expected on account of the fun being had.  when we rolled back up to the house it was time for them to leave and they said i should keep the beers.  waved them off, then checked the fridge: a 2014 Dark Lord, along with a 2016 BCBS.


if i got to try DL at boardee bottle-share from back in the day, i don't remember it.  damn psyched to get to try it (again?).

your story, took me there . . . even if, for fleeting moments.

I thought nudity was going to happen at any moment, then I remembered I was in the beer thread.

well you're not too far off... if it's just me and the family, we swim nakid.  zero chance anyone can see us.  but this was our first time meeting this couple, pretty sure that skinny-dipping would have been a bit much for a first encounter.  there is always next time.

come to think of it, the kids were naked.  so i guess there was some nudity.  and beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on July 23, 2019, 01:42:34 pm
great . . . way to bring the thread, to a screeching halt. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 23, 2019, 01:55:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 23, 2019, 01:01:25 pm
to think of it, the kids were naked. 
Goddamnit, now we're all on a list somewhere.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 24, 2019, 03:42:11 pm
GABF
Denver, CO
Oct 3-5, 2019
Member-only presale for the Great American Beer Festival on Tuesday, July 30 at 10:00 a.m. MT.

i have a presale code which allows you to get tix to the members-only saturday session.  ping me if you want it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 24, 2019, 04:39:19 pm
We'll be in Denver and Colorado this weekend and next week. Have a pretty awesome brewery and hiking lineup planned. Rockies/Dodgers game too. My daughter is going to hate it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2019, 04:42:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 24, 2019, 04:39:19 pm
We'll be in Denver and Colorado this weekend and next week.

Let me know if you're ever in Denver but NOT also in Colorado.  Would love to know how you pulled that off....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 24, 2019, 04:44:48 pm
Quote from: vansmack on July 24, 2019, 04:42:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 24, 2019, 04:39:19 pm
We'll be in Denver and Colorado this weekend and next week.

Let me know if you're ever in Denver but NOT also in Colorado.  Would love to know how you pulled that off....
there is a Denver in all of these states
Denver, Oklahoma
Denver, Missouri
Denver, Arkansas
Denver, Iowa
Denver, Illinois
Denver, Tennessee
Denver, Indiana
Denver, Alabama
Denver, Georgia
Denver, Ohio
Denver, Kentucky
Denver, South Carolina
Denver, Florida
Denver, North Carolina
Denver, West Virginia
Denver, Pennsylvania
Denver, New York
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 24, 2019, 04:47:15 pm
I’ve long supported the Denverquois movement.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2019, 04:54:21 pm
Quote from: I direct you to what’s in the report on July 24, 2019, 04:44:48 pm

there is a Denver in all of these states


Let me know when the Rockies play at any of those also-rans.  Would love to catch the game!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on July 24, 2019, 10:10:29 pm
All of a sudden, country redneck convenience stores are stocking up on good beers, out under the moonshine of where I live.

I found this tonight,  lurking among the Natty Ice and Mickey's Big Mouth.

Lickenhole Creek,  Nuclear Nugget

Good.  10% good.  A beer is a beer, until it gets you drunk.  Then, it becomes something special.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 25, 2019, 01:16:34 pm
just confirmed:

Zwanze Day 2019
Saturday, September 28
• The Sovereign — Washington D.C.
• The Veil Brewing Co. — Richmond, Virginia
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 25, 2019, 01:25:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 25, 2019, 01:16:34 pm
just confirmed:

Zwanze Day 2019
Saturday, September 28
• The Sovereign — Washington D.C.
• The Veil Brewing Co. — Richmond, Virginia

Any country redneck stores on the Zwanze trail?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 26, 2019, 03:48:24 pm
Does this go in the beer thread or the 2020 thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smiCqOBbI4w

In swoops Greg Koch with the punchline at the end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 26, 2019, 03:55:53 pm
although...where can I get $5 beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 26, 2019, 04:29:03 pm
Quote from: infantroopen-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 26, 2019, 03:55:53 pm
although...where can I get $5 beers

I mean...happy hour?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 26, 2019, 04:39:41 pm
Quote from: infantroopen-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 26, 2019, 03:55:53 pm
although...where can I get $5 beers


Wynkoop is a Bar, Restaurant, Brewery

More Happy Hours

Monday thru Friday 3:00 PM - 6:00 PM
•Drinks$3.50 select drafts beers
•Drinks$1 off well drinks, glasses of house wine, beers, well liquors
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 26, 2019, 05:04:13 pm
do these sell $5 beers at any IMP establishment?

In the DMV it's hard to pay that little for a pint (happy hour doesn't count) was my point

in the vid there is a part where it says...instead of paying $5 for a beer, donate to my campaign

Quote from: Space Freely on July 26, 2019, 04:39:41 pm
Wynkoop is a Bar, Restaurant, Brewery
did you get any of the Rocky Mountain Oyster Stout ?
yes, it comes in two packs because because ball jokes are hilarious
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 26, 2019, 05:26:40 pm
Quote from: infantroopen-Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 26, 2019, 05:04:13 pm
do these sell $5 beers at any IMP establishment?

In the DMV it's hard to pay that little for a pint (happy hour doesn't count) was my point

in the vid there is a part where it says...instead of paying $5 for a beer, donate to my campaign

Quote from: Space Freely on July 26, 2019, 04:39:41 pm
Wynkoop is a Bar, Restaurant, Brewery
did you get any of the Rocky Mountain Oyster Stout ?
yes, it comes in two packs because because ball jokes are hilarious

I can definitely say we won't be going to Wynkoop. And I read they stopped distributing in 2016. Though maybe they do cans to go at the brewpub. Their beer appears to be as uninspiring as their founders campaign.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 29, 2019, 02:23:51 pm
WTOP is having a 'best of'
Asiln is currently in 3rd place
https://wtop.com/living/2019/07/wtop-top-10-best-brewery-3/
voting ends today

2 silos is in first...really can't trust the people :)


Also made it to Aslin this Sunday
great space...but really could use an outdoor deck or something
beers were tasty (although didn't really like Dark as Sin - dark lager)
food looked good, merch was cool and plentiful
Video games and skee ball were a nice touch
I agree with space's wife...they really hired some mediocre talent to pour the beer...not essential, but couldn't hurt
Anyone know if they are doing brewery tours?

That bottle list was a little absurd...avg price was in the $70 range!

there were at least 10 children under the age of 6 months old
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jYhKfyJrewyBck/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 30, 2019, 09:43:19 pm
Sidehatch's post reminded me to post this:

The 20 Worst Beer Trends, as told by Brewers (https://vinepair.com/articles/20-worst-beer-trends-craft/)

Shockingly, beards isn't one of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 31, 2019, 12:41:41 am
Quote from: vansmack on July 30, 2019, 09:43:19 pm
Shockingly, beards isn't one of them.

when i read this the other day, i was shocked that "hazy" or "juicy" wasn't on someone's shit-list.  some folks just hate those words, especially "juicy", while others hate the NEIPA style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2019, 09:31:08 am
Quote from: vansmack on July 30, 2019, 09:43:19 pm
The 20 Worst Beer Trends, as told by Brewers (https://vinepair.com/articles/20-worst-beer-trends-craft/)

Shockingly, beards isn't one of them.
Yes but the brewers are the ones with the beards and who made this list...not known for their self reflection
but I have to agree with Seltzer

this was a good line I am afraid brewers are complacent with the ‘Chardonnization’ of their beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2019, 02:15:48 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA0l6oJWkAAvqwq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
love this packaging/concept....although adding MSG...yuk
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 05, 2019, 02:58:33 pm
Just got back from a combined work trip/family vacation on Colorado.

Fourth time in Colorado and Colorado moves into second place in terms of brewery visits for me. Will write up more at some point if time permits. Coors was my first ever brewery visit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 05, 2019, 04:24:26 pm
Quote from: Laughing-Stock 50 ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2019, 02:15:48 pm
although adding MSG...yuk

it's just a salt. gose has NaCl salt, given what they're trying to do here i think the use of MSG is pretty clever.  i suspect they used a very, very small quantity... more of a marketing thing than something that will affect the taste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 05, 2019, 04:57:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 05, 2019, 04:24:26 pm
Quote from: Laughing-Stock 50 ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2019, 02:15:48 pm
although adding MSG...yuk

it's just a salt. gose has NaCl salt, given what they're trying to do here i think the use of MSG is pretty clever.  i suspect they used a very, very small quantity... more of a marketing thing than something that will affect the taste.
I 100% agree
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 08, 2019, 01:04:27 pm
Breweries from my Recent Colorado visit, ranked

1. Casey Brewing and Blending, Glenwood Springs. World class sours, an awesome DIPA collaboration with WEldwerks, a very good imperial stout, funny and dynamic tour guide. One of my favorite brewery visits ever, in spite of my cranky 12 year old begging to leave.

2. Wiley Roots, Greeley. I was a little skeptical about a frozen slushy beer, but wow, really good. Yummy fruited sours. Pastry stout was very good. Didn't try their hoppy offerings. Nice vibe playing the indie rock hits.

3. Knotted Root, Nederland. For a brewery open less than three weeks, these guys are on fire. I liked their beers as much as Weldwerks’ beers, and i liked the vibe much better. Nice folks working there too. My wife really liked the Dead stuff they were playing. And though I'm not a big Dead fan, you could do a lot worse.

4. Bierstadt Lagerhaus, Denver. If every pils were as good as their  slow pour pils, i'd drink three or four pilsners a year instead of none. Food was tasty too.

5. Weldwerks, Greeley. The hype was high on these guys. And though their beer was very good, it was a little bit disappointing. NEIPA's and fruity sours very good but not as good as the stuff I get here in VA from Aslin or the Veil, or from the occasional Other Half trip or drop. The best beer of theirs  i drank at Casey. Vibe was sort of lame with mainstream-y music and not particularly attentive service.

6. Crooked Stave, Denver. Some of their funky stuff is amazing, some of it tastes a little off. Not really a fan of the vibe or location, though the service was good and friendly. (Second time here.)

7. Epic, Denver. Quadrupel Barrel Baptist and one of their Oak and Orchard beers were particularly tasty. Everything was good. Bartendress was very friendly. (Second Time here.)

8. Great Divide Barrel House, Denver. Only had a couple of beers, both good. Crashing the trivia night was fun. Location too out of the way. (First time at this location...like this place better than the original, but too much of a hike away from anything)

9. Outer Range, Frisco. I suppose if i never had a NEIPA or pastry stout before, I'd have been blown away, but as i have a steady diet of great versions of those beers here in VA, I found them pretty "meh."

Edit: Totally forgot, we went for lunch in Denver to a place called Liberati. There they brew beers also using grapes, creating some tasty wine-beer hybrids. I'm going to put them at #4 and bump the others down.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on August 08, 2019, 03:16:00 pm
Finally went to Sapwood Cellars! Loved it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 08, 2019, 06:30:10 pm
Best brewery in HoCo or MoCo, imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 08, 2019, 07:01:45 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 08, 2019, 06:30:10 pm
Best brewery in HoCo or MoCo, imo.

I'd put in in the top 3 in Maryland along with Burley Oak and RAR.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 08, 2019, 08:29:52 pm
the 1 hour drive is the only thing keeping me...
but I do need to make a plan to go to sapwood based on these three posts
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 08, 2019, 10:05:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 08, 2019, 07:01:45 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 08, 2019, 06:30:10 pm
Best brewery in HoCo or MoCo, imo.

I'd put in in the top 3 in Maryland along with Burley Oak and RAR.

Hard to argue with that. I really like Diamondback, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 13, 2019, 01:25:37 pm
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67832918_10158618462411754_8718952338670223360_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQkKtt98yYQxQWcjASXk_seyvL8GeaxTUwL63WiK86sldqL_k37SciiTw2J2-0nB72Y&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=1b129adf5603b56a245983f0f479d7fc&oe=5DD7C855)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2019, 01:27:06 pm
^hey we bring our kids with us too...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 13, 2019, 02:42:19 pm
Quote from: cruelty is the point ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2019, 01:27:06 pm
^hey we bring our kids with us too...

And our kids hate us when we do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2019, 02:54:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 13, 2019, 02:42:19 pm
Quote from: cruelty is the point ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2019, 01:27:06 pm
^hey we bring our kids with us too...

And our kids hate us when we do.
I never said they liked it....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 13, 2019, 03:21:12 pm
Quote from: cruelty is the point ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2019, 02:54:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 13, 2019, 02:42:19 pm
Quote from: cruelty is the point ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2019, 01:27:06 pm
^hey we bring our kids with us too...

And our kids hate us when we do.
I never said they liked it....

Haha, so true. Those days when my kid enjoyed just going anywhere are gone forever, or until she becomes an adult.. Now it has to be *her* thing for her to enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 14, 2019, 04:38:49 pm
Spaghett!

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/wet-city-brewing-spaghett
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 14, 2019, 04:48:10 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on August 14, 2019, 04:38:49 pm
Spaghett!

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/wet-city-brewing-spaghett

could have gone in the smakie thread...
three ingredients—Miller High Life, Aperol, and lemon juice—and had all the characteristics I was looking for without my even knowing it: light, fruity, slightly bitter, and just tart enough to lead you back for another sip.
. I just pour an ounce of Aperol and lemon juice directly into a bottle of High Life, aaaand done

I want to try it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 29, 2019, 09:43:46 am
Founders: No plans to brew top-rated Canadian Breakfast Stout after 2019
https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/nightlife/2019/08/28/founders-canadian-breakfast-stout/2052250001/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 29, 2019, 09:50:26 am
first they remove the mountie...now this!
I think they are trying to create demand for all those 2018 bottle still on the shelf ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 29, 2019, 01:30:31 pm
speaking of founders:

Spanish brewer Mahou to acquire Founders Brewing
https://mibiz.com/sections/food-agribusiness/spanish-brewer-mahou-to-acquire-founders-brewing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 29, 2019, 02:36:17 pm
After nearly a year, Sapwood is finally releasing bottles to their club members... Expectations are high.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 29, 2019, 03:00:29 pm
sours take at least a year to mature, so the delay isn't surprising.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on August 29, 2019, 03:27:49 pm
Just got back from Ashville.  In the downtown area they have about 8 (or more) micro breweries within a 4 block area (Green Man, Burial, Wicked Weed to name a few).  I'm not a big beer drinker, but the breweries are a blast to visit.  Good food, beer (obviously), music and atmosphere.  If you want bigger craft breweries they have New Belgium (#4) and Sierra Nevada (#3).  On top of that its a really cool city in the mountains to visit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 29, 2019, 03:29:57 pm
Quote from: jeffml on August 29, 2019, 03:27:49 pm
Just got back from Ashville.  In the downtown area they have about 8 (or more) micro breweries within a 4 block area (Green Man, Burial, Wicked Weed to name a few).  I'm not a big beer drinker, but the breweries are a blast to visit.  Good food, beer (obviously), music and atmosphere.  If you want bigger craft breweries they have New Belgium (#4) and Sierra Nevada (#3).  On top of that its a really cool city in the mountains to visit.

All true. And locals spell it "Asheville." Like Arthur Ashe though he was from Richmond.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 29, 2019, 04:00:14 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 29, 2019, 03:00:29 pm
sours take at least a year to mature, so the delay isn't surprising.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/udPdpF18yG0uI/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 04, 2019, 11:11:15 am
Enjoyed Aslin's Oh Jackie Wilson at my local watering hole over the weekend.  At 5.5% (doubledry hopped) , what's not to like?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on September 04, 2019, 11:47:14 am
Quote from: jeffml on August 29, 2019, 03:27:49 pm
Just got back from Ashville.  In the downtown area they have about 8 (or more) micro breweries within a 4 block area (Green Man, Burial, Wicked Weed to name a few).  I'm not a big beer drinker, but the breweries are a blast to visit.  Good food, beer (obviously), music and atmosphere.  If you want bigger craft breweries they have New Belgium (#4) and Sierra Nevada (#3).  On top of that its a really cool city in the mountains to visit.

Heading there soon!!   Any advice on some  airbnb's to stay while they are? We can't figure out whether we want to stay downtown or in a cabin in the woods?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 04, 2019, 12:02:09 pm
Any beer brethren going to the Aslin party?

See you there
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 04, 2019, 12:05:01 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on September 04, 2019, 11:47:14 am
Quote from: jeffml on August 29, 2019, 03:27:49 pm
Just got back from Ashville.  In the downtown area they have about 8 (or more) micro breweries within a 4 block area (Green Man, Burial, Wicked Weed to name a few).  I'm not a big beer drinker, but the breweries are a blast to visit.  Good food, beer (obviously), music and atmosphere.  If you want bigger craft breweries they have New Belgium (#4) and Sierra Nevada (#3).  On top of that its a really cool city in the mountains to visit.

Heading there soon!!   Any advice on some  airbnb's to stay while they are? We can't figure out whether we want to stay downtown or in a cabin in the woods?
Stay at the Grand Bohemian or the Omni. You'll be happy you took my advice.

If sold on a cabin, Marriott's Homes program has a lot of nice cabin-like properties out by Lake Lure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 04, 2019, 12:44:57 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on September 04, 2019, 11:47:14 am
Quote from: jeffml on August 29, 2019, 03:27:49 pm
Just got back from Ashville.  In the downtown area they have about 8 (or more) micro breweries within a 4 block area (Green Man, Burial, Wicked Weed to name a few).  I'm not a big beer drinker, but the breweries are a blast to visit.  Good food, beer (obviously), music and atmosphere.  If you want bigger craft breweries they have New Belgium (#4) and Sierra Nevada (#3).  On top of that its a really cool city in the mountains to visit.

Heading there soon!!   Any advice on some  airbnb's to stay while they are? We can't figure out whether we want to stay downtown or in a cabin in the woods?

We had one of our all time nicest VRBO's in a cabin in the woods outside of Asheville.

That is until my wife made a fatal mistake. We went out and crated our dog. And to make our dog feel like he was in a safe enclosed space, my wife moved furniture closer to the crate.

After we left and before we returned on one of our first days (I think we were daytripping to a hike and then the Sierra Nevada Brewery tour), our dog needled his nose through the crate and chewed up one of chairs.

We felt terrible and were proactive and let the owner know about what happened, and the 20+ year old beater chair (as we saw it) morphed itself into an "expensive antique," and  the owner charged us the security deposit and a great deal more for the replacement chair she bought.

That pretty much put a damper on that vacation, the last one we ever took our dog on.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 04, 2019, 12:46:28 pm
Quote from: James Ford on October 15, 2009, 12:26:07 pm
There must be a few people here who drink something a cut above PBR, no?

What beers are you currently enjoying?

I'm really digging this:
(http://legalbeer.com/images/founders%20breakfast%20stout.jpg)

And after a stop at their brewery in Cooperstown, NY, i'm enjoying the mix pack from Ommegang. Especially love the Ommegang Ale.

(https://secure5.worldaxxs.net/ssl.ommegang.com/graphics/graphics/00000005/ultimix.jpg)

Had the Breakfast Stout on nitro for the first time ever last weekend. Still a great beer. Hope not too much of my money went to Spain.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 06, 2019, 04:48:41 pm
DC BEer Week starts officially on monday, but apparently the unofficial kickoff is Cask Night at Chophouse tonight

http://dcbeerweek.net/full-event-calendar-1/


daily recommendations:
- BATTLE OF THE BARREL AGED BEERS AT BOUNDARY STONE on the 10th
- THE AREA TWO EXPERIMENTAL BREWING SHOWCASE AT THE SOVEREIGN on the 11th
- THE ASLIN 4TH ANNIVERSARY PRE-PARTY AT CHURCHKEY on the 12th (also: THE ASLIN 4TH ANNIVERSARY PRE-PARTY AT THE SOVEREIGN)
- THE SOVEREIGN PRESENTS: AN EVENING WITH TRVE BREWING CO.on the 13th
- ASLIN 4TH ANNIVERSARY PARTY on the 14th
- RECORD FAIR AT RIGHT PROPER BROOKLAND PRODUCTION HOUSE on the 15th
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 09, 2019, 07:34:53 pm
I mean, do you even remember Tupper's Hop Pocket,  brah?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 12, 2019, 04:35:02 pm
gonna hit up The Aslin 4th Anniversary Pre-Party at ChurchKey...hope there is some good stuff left when I get there
some serious heavy stouts


20,000 Containers Under the Sea Stout - Imperial / Double
11% ABV • N/A IBU • Neon Raptor Brewing Co. •

BA The Hawk & Whale Stout - Imperial / Double
13.5% ABV • N/A IBU • Finback Brewery •

Reston Stout - Imperial / Double
16.5% ABV • N/A IBU • Aslin Beer Company •

Booker's Bourbon Barrel Aged Teotihuacan (2019) Stout - Imperial / Double
12.9% ABV • N/A IBU • Barreled Souls Brewing Company •

Peanut Butter Jenkins Stout - Imperial / Double
11.7% ABV • N/A IBU • Thin Man Brewery •

Cross Quarter Days (Barrel Aged) Stout - Other
8.6% ABV • N/A IBU • DC Brau Brewing Company •

Your Pet Cow (Barrel Aged) Stout - Imperial / Double Milk
7% ABV • N/A IBU • DC Brau Brewing Company •

Zombie Date Night Porter - Imperial / Double
9.6% ABV • N/A IBU • 3 Stars Brewing Company •

Double Mexican Radio: Bourbon 2018 Stout - Imperial / Double Milk
13% ABV • N/A IBU • Bluejacket •

Here are some of the hoppy options

Holy Roller IPA IPA - New England
6.3% ABV • 60 IBU • Urban South Brewery •

Bliss IPA - Imperial / Double
8% ABV • N/A IBU • Thin Man Brewery •

Hazy IPA - New England
6.5% ABV • N/A IBU • Temescal Brewing •

Modern Life IPA - New England
6.1% ABV • N/A IBU • Temescal Brewing •

Rakau's Modern Life IPA - Imperial / Double New England
8.4% ABV • N/A IBU • Southern Grist Brewing Company •

Steezy IPA - New England
7.1% ABV • N/A IBU • Outer Range Brewing Co. •

In the Steep IPA - New England
6.9% ABV • N/A IBU • Outer Range Brewing Co. •

Halo Effect IPA - Imperial / Double
8% ABV • N/A IBU • Neon Raptor Brewing Co. •

OJ Run IPA - New England
8.6% ABV • 70 IBU • Narrow Gauge Brewing Company •

Thrice Around The Sun IPA - Imperial / Double
8% ABV • N/A IBU • Kings County Brewers Collective •

Recurved IPA - Imperial / Double
8% ABV • N/A IBU • Finback Brewery •

Multiple Ectogasms IPA - New England
7% ABV • 65 IBU • Drekker Brewing Company •

Sky Party IPA - Imperial / Double
7.8% ABV • N/A IBU • Deciduous Brewing Company •

In the Red IPA - New England
7.7% ABV • N/A IBU • Barrier Brewing Company •

The Great Experiment Volume 2: Fortitude IPA - New England
7.4% ABV • N/A IBU • Barrier Brewing Company •

Orange Starfish IPA - American
5.7% ABV • N/A IBU • Aslin Beer Company •

Dunley Place IPA - Imperial / Double
8% ABV • N/A IBU • Aslin Beer Company •

Personal Assistant IPA - Triple
10.5% ABV • N/A IBU • Magnify Brewing Company •
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 12, 2019, 04:52:55 pm
unless they've upped their game recently, i'd stay away from the zombie date night... had it twice, never liked it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 05:53:59 pm
That looks good, but I'm more excited by the Other Half can drop and the 27 Other Half taps at Churchkey Saturday. I just with the timing of the events wasn't three hours apart.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 12, 2019, 05:55:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 05:53:59 pm
That looks good, but I'm more excited by the Other Half can drop and the 27 Other Half taps at Churchkey Saturday. I just with the timing of the events wasn't three hours apart.

You do know there is an Other Half drop at a well known location in MoCo practically every week, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 06:09:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2019, 05:55:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 05:53:59 pm
That looks good, but I'm more excited by the Other Half can drop and the 27 Other Half taps at Churchkey Saturday. I just with the timing of the events wasn't three hours apart.

You do know there is an Other Half drop at a well known location in MoCo practically every week, right?

Do they have weekend drops there? Because the last one was a Friday and it sold out by the end of the day.

Also i live closer to DC than Gaithersburg. Probably a 20 min drive vs. a 40 min drive on a Saturday.

I'm guessing the line would be shorter at the place that gets it every week as opposed to a one time DC drop.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 12, 2019, 06:18:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 06:09:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2019, 05:55:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 05:53:59 pm
That looks good, but I'm more excited by the Other Half can drop and the 27 Other Half taps at Churchkey Saturday. I just with the timing of the events wasn't three hours apart.

You do know there is an Other Half drop at a well known location in MoCo practically every week, right?

Do they have weekend drops there? Because the last one was a Friday and it sold out by the end of the day.

Also i live closer to DC than Gaithersburg. Probably a 20 min drive vs. a 40 min drive on a Saturday.

I'm guessing the line would be shorter at the place that gets it every week as opposed to a one time DC drop.

It's always Friday night and I've never not seen it make it until Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 13, 2019, 09:36:58 am
Quote from: shambolic-hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 12, 2019, 04:35:02 pm
gonna hit up The Aslin 4th Anniversary Pre-Party at ChurchKey...h

what is nice now is at these craft beer events, the crowds are not as insane as they used to be and you can show up at 9:30 and none of the kegs were kicked (barkeep said it was pretty packed at dinner time)

I did drink for many hours proceeding this...so the heavy stouts were not looking that desirable
I did try this one
Reston Stout - Imperial / Double 16.5% ABV • N/A IBU • Aslin Beer Company

you couldn't really taste any alcohol and that's impressive at 16.5, but didn't really love this

My favorite was
Double Lollipop Forest w/ Blackcurrant Blueberry & Raspberry Sour - Fruited
6.6% ABV • N/A IBU • Deciduous Brewing Company •

I thought the  4th Anniversary Sour -American Wild Ale by Aslin was kinda meh and definitely wouldn't get again

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 15, 2019, 03:07:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2019, 06:18:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 06:09:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2019, 05:55:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 05:53:59 pm
That looks good, but I'm more excited by the Other Half can drop and the 27 Other Half taps at Churchkey Saturday. I just with the timing of the events wasn't three hours apart.

You do know there is an Other Half drop at a well known location in MoCo practically every week, right?

Do they have weekend drops there? Because the last one was a Friday and it sold out by the end of the day.

Also i live closer to DC than Gaithersburg. Probably a 20 min drive vs. a 40 min drive on a Saturday.

I'm guessing the line would be shorter at the place that gets it every week as opposed to a one time DC drop.

It's always Friday night and I've never not seen it make it until Saturday.

Cans still available this morning.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 15, 2019, 03:34:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2019, 03:07:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2019, 06:18:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 06:09:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2019, 05:55:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 05:53:59 pm
That looks good, but I'm more excited by the Other Half can drop and the 27 Other Half taps at Churchkey Saturday. I just with the timing of the events wasn't three hours apart.

You do know there is an Other Half drop at a well known location in MoCo practically every week, right?

Do they have weekend drops there? Because the last one was a Friday and it sold out by the end of the day.

Also i live closer to DC than Gaithersburg. Probably a 20 min drive vs. a 40 min drive on a Saturday.

I'm guessing the line would be shorter at the place that gets it every week as opposed to a one time DC drop.

It's always Friday night and I've never not seen it make it until Saturday.

Cans still available this morning.

I saw that. Wonder if it's the frequency of drops that made it happen, or did they increase the dosage?

I got some at CBC. I actually work nearby, so would love to see more frequent drops there on weekdays.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 15, 2019, 03:57:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 15, 2019, 03:34:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2019, 03:07:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2019, 06:18:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 06:09:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 12, 2019, 05:55:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 12, 2019, 05:53:59 pm
That looks good, but I'm more excited by the Other Half can drop and the 27 Other Half taps at Churchkey Saturday. I just with the timing of the events wasn't three hours apart.

You do know there is an Other Half drop at a well known location in MoCo practically every week, right?

Do they have weekend drops there? Because the last one was a Friday and it sold out by the end of the day.

Also i live closer to DC than Gaithersburg. Probably a 20 min drive vs. a 40 min drive on a Saturday.

I'm guessing the line would be shorter at the place that gets it every week as opposed to a one time DC drop.

It's always Friday night and I've never not seen it make it until Saturday.

Cans still available this morning.

I saw that. Wonder if it's the frequency of drops that made it happen, or did they increase the dosage?

I got some at CBC. I actually work nearby, so would love to see more frequent drops there on weekdays.

I'm guessing a combination of peak beer, location, amount distributed, all haaaaze tastes similar, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 15, 2019, 04:01:22 pm
How was the Aslin party? Any highlights/disappointments?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 15, 2019, 09:08:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 15, 2019, 04:01:22 pm
How was the Aslin party? Any highlights/disappointments?

The first few Aslin fests tricked me into thinking I like attending these things... Yesterday reminded me why I probably won't attend another one for years to come.

It wasn't bad by any means but shit loads of people every where (Kai told me 3,100 tickets were sold) and to be honest actually way too many beers. I refuse to wait in line for any beer and went there without any beers I had to try. By 4pm there was basically no beer left.

A couple favorites

Barreled Souls - Stay Puft (Imperial Stout with Marshmallows)
Sapwood - Galactic Burst (haaaze)
More - Another haaaze beer, can't even recall the name
Abraxas is always a treat and it's interesting to see how you could walk up and get 5oz pours at leisure vs. hype pastrys with 20 people deep




Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2019, 06:48:11 pm
Here’s What’s Brewing in the New Smithsonian Beer Collections (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/heres-whats-brewing-new-smithsonian-beer-collections-180973134/)
After two years of documenting the nation’s craft brewing industry, curator Theresa McCulla makes ready for a public debut
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 20, 2019, 09:42:52 am
^ Skimmed through that and looks like a good read.

but saw this at the end that was worth noting
The museum’s fifth annual Food History Weekend takes place November 7 to 9, 2019. On November 8, craft brewing pioneers Fritz Maytag, Michael Lewis, Charlie Papazian, and Ken Grossman, founder of Sierra Nevada Brewing Company, will speak at the after-hours event “Last Call.” Attendees can sample several of the historic beers created by this star-studded panel of speakers.

https://americanhistory.si.edu/events/food-history-weekend

The Last Call: Brewing History After-Hours
Friday, November 8, 2019, at 6:30 p.m.

Join us for an evening of conversation with several of the most transformational figures in the beer industry and brews spanning the spectrum of the craft beer revolution. Also enjoy after-hours access to the FOOD exhibit and brewing history objects out of storage, including recent acquisitions.

Tickets: $45 — Purchase before October 1 to receive $10 off!
Brewing a Revolution

A conversation with the founders of craft beer: Fritz Maytag, former owner of Anchor Brewing Company; Ken Grossman, founder of Sierra Nevada Brewing Company; Charlie Papazian, past president of the Brewers Association and founder of the Association of Brewers; and Michael Lewis, professor emeritus at University of California, Davis.

Craft beer tastings with:

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery (Milton, Delaware)
    Anchor Brewing Company (San Francisco, California)
    Sierra Nevada Brewing Company (Chico, California, and Mills River, North Carolina)
    Raleigh Brewing Company (Raleigh, North Carolina)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 20, 2019, 10:09:43 am
Which one of these doesn't belong with the others?

Dogfish Head Craft Brewery (Milton, Delaware)
    Anchor Brewing Company (San Francisco, California)
    Sierra Nevada Brewing Company (Chico, California, and Mills River, North Carolina)
    Raleigh Brewing Company (Raleigh, North Carolina)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 20, 2019, 10:30:54 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 20, 2019, 10:09:43 am
Which one of these doesn't belong with the others?
    Raleigh Brewing Company (Raleigh, North Carolina)
First time I've ever heard of these guys
opened in 2013
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 20, 2019, 10:40:49 am
Quote from: pitch perfect hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 20, 2019, 10:30:54 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 20, 2019, 10:09:43 am
Which one of these doesn't belong with the others?
    Raleigh Brewing Company (Raleigh, North Carolina)
First time I've ever heard of these guys
opened in 2013
I've been in Raleigh easily 6-8 times a year for the last 5 years, and I've never heard of these guys either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on September 23, 2019, 05:21:45 pm
Fun stumbling on this


(https://i.ibb.co/D4LXx53/B1-A7742-B-05-C1-43-EF-8-F3-F-022-AE03-EFE5-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wyYH9MD)
pick a number between 1 and 10 (https://freeonlinedice.com/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2019, 11:41:50 am
Absolute massive amounts of OH at Downtown Crown
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 25, 2019, 11:55:06 am
Quote from: Yada on September 25, 2019, 11:41:50 am
Absolute massive amounts of OH at Downtown Crown

Thanks for posting. We'll be passing through that area on Saturday. Wonder if any will be left?

Had an Other Half beer at CK called Cobbler Jams. It was a sour IPA. Wish they were sending down that one in cans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 25, 2019, 12:03:00 pm
Has anyone had TreeHouse (MA)? I'm heading up there in a few weeks and will be staying verrry close by.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 25, 2019, 12:06:11 pm
Quote from: grateful on September 25, 2019, 12:03:00 pm
Has anyone had TreeHouse (MA)? I'm heading up there in a few weeks and will be staying verrry close by.
never had...but there is lots of love and good rankings
It is considered by some to be amongst the best breweries in the United States, including public beer-rating sites like Untappd (ranked 8th best brewery in the country) and Beer Advocate (brew 3 out of the top ten beers in the country), as well as sites including Forbes, the Boston Globe, and Thrillist

I know a few bordies have went an waited in line there to get cans
I imagine the lines are not crazy like the used to be
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 25, 2019, 12:18:19 pm
Ahh cool so worth swinging by, then.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 25, 2019, 12:24:27 pm
Quote from: grateful on September 25, 2019, 12:18:19 pm
Ahh cool so worth swinging by, then.

Woah yes. Probably the one brewery whose beer I have yet to check off my bucket list.

I'll never forgive my brother, who on a New England roadtrip, once chose to bypass Tree House while stopping at numerous other breweries, among them Smuttynose.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 25, 2019, 01:07:32 pm
lol: When Mary Berry Sends Your Brewery a Cease and Desist Letter, Make 'Cease and Desistberry' Beer (https://www.foodandwine.com/beer/mary-berry-beer-armistice-brewing-cease-and-desist)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2019, 01:18:36 pm
Quote from: grateful on September 25, 2019, 12:03:00 pm
Has anyone had TreeHouse (MA)? I'm heading up there in a few weeks and will be staying verrry close by.


Yes and definitely worth it... I will say it's not the blow your socks off place it once was as haaaaze has caught up everywhere but still great beer and an absolute gorgeous facility and outdoor space.

It would probably make sense to make sure there isn't some nutty beer being released the day you plan to visit as it could definitely ruin the experience.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 25, 2019, 01:55:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 25, 2019, 01:18:36 pm
Quote from: grateful on September 25, 2019, 12:03:00 pm
Has anyone had TreeHouse (MA)? I'm heading up there in a few weeks and will be staying verrry close by.


Yes and definitely worth it... I will say it's not the blow your socks off place it once was as haaaaze has caught up everywhere but still great beer and an absolute gorgeous facility and outdoor space.

It would probably make sense to make sure there isn't some nutty beer being released the day you plan to visit as it could definitely ruin the experience.

REALLY like the treehouse beers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2019, 02:50:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 25, 2019, 11:55:06 am
Quote from: Yada on September 25, 2019, 11:41:50 am
Absolute massive amounts of OH at Downtown Crown

Thanks for posting. We'll be passing through that area on Saturday. Wonder if any will be left?

Had an Other Half beer at CK called Cobbler Jams. It was a sour IPA. Wish they were sending down that one in cans.

This was around 11am. I'm sure they'll be at least a few cans, but you never know.

(https://i.imgur.com/DM6ledA.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 25, 2019, 03:01:57 pm
you are going to drive to gaithersburg for a few cans?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 25, 2019, 03:12:56 pm
Quote from: rogue fashion ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 25, 2019, 03:01:57 pm
you are going to drive to gaithersburg for a few cans?

Not sure if you're talking to me or someone else. If me:

No, I wouldn't go to Gaithersburg for a "few cans" of Other Half, especially given that I have a decent amount in my fridge. However, we're planning on hiking in the Frederick area, so this store, which is right off 270, would be a quick detour.

I'd definitely drive to Gaithersburg for a few cans of Tree House.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 25, 2019, 03:26:58 pm
Quote from: rogue fashion ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 25, 2019, 03:01:57 pm
you are going to drive to gaithersburg for a few cans?

rumor has it tax is less in Brooklyn and cans are 23 cents cheaper. I wouldn't put it past space to drive there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on September 25, 2019, 05:17:54 pm
Other half offerings at Downtown Frown:

-'DDH Citra Daydream' Oat Cream IPA (6% ABV) "Double Dry Hopped Citra Daydream is an Oat Cream IPA. Part of our Dream/Daydream series, it's packed with Citra hops and Citra Lupulin powder, oats and a hint of lactose sugar to smooth it out." $18/4-pack

-'DDH All Citra Everything' Imperial IPA (8.5% ABV) "Our standard All Citra Everything double dry hopped with an extra dose of Citra lupulin powder." $20/4-pack

-'We've Been Out There in Orbit' Imperial Stout (13% ABV) "Imperial Stout w/ Wild Thai Banana, Caramel, and Toasted Walnuts." $16/500ml bottle

-'Viridian Daydream' Imperial Oat Cream IPA (8.2% ABV) "Smooth oats and a little lactose are the foundation for a hop explosion of Citra, Mosaic, Motueka, Galaxy and Mosaic Cryo." $20/4-pack

-'Triple Space DIamonds' Imperial IPA (10.5% ABV) "Now Even More Diamonds!!! More Galaxy and more of everything else." $22/4-pack

-'DDH Forever Simcoe' Imperial IPA (8.5% ABV) "Double Dry Hopped Forever Simcoe takes our regular Forever Simcoe and hits it with a second dry hopping with Simcoe Lupulin Powder." $20/4-pack

-'DDH Double Mosaic Daydream' Imperial Oat Cream IPA (8.5% ABV) "Double Dry Hopped Double Mosaic Daydream is an Oat Cream Imperial IPA similar to Double Mosaic Dream, but brewed with oats and lactose sugar. Mosaic at it's juiciest and creamiest." $20/4-pack

-'DDH Did I Make Myself Clear' West Coast IPA (7.3% ABV) "Mosaic, Citra and Galaxy combine to make a tasty West Coast style IPA. This batch gets hit with a little extra in the form of Citra and Mosaic Cryo." $18/4-pack

-'DDH ROC Showers' IPA (7.4% ABV) "An updated version of Hop Showers for the Rochester area. We swapped out the regular Amarillo for Galaxy for this version. Double dry hopped with Citra cryo and Galaxy." $18/4-pack

-'DDH Oh...' IPA (6% ABV) "Double Dry Hopped Oh… is our crushable wheat and oat IPA with Citra, Citra Lupulin, Galaxy and Motueka." $18/4-pack

-'DDH All Green Everything' Imperial IPA (10.5% ABV) "Double Dry Hopped All Green Everything is our Triple IPA brewed with Amarillo, Motueka, Citra and Mosaic. We then double dry hopped it with Citra and Mosaic Lupulin powder. We decided to update our yeast strains on this one with a fruitier variety." $22/4-pack
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 02, 2019, 01:10:28 pm
Another Wednesday other half drop at DTC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 02, 2019, 01:17:14 pm
Wanted a lowish ABV NEIPA so  I picked up a 4 pack of the Oh last week.  Didn't love it.  Not sure I like the lupulin powder addition.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 02, 2019, 02:22:33 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 02, 2019, 01:17:14 pm
Wanted a lowish ABV NEIPA so  I picked up a 4 pack of the Oh last week.  Didn't love it.  Not sure I like the lupulin powder addition.

I wanted the same so also picked up one of those as well as the 'DDH Citra Daydream' Oat Cream IPA they were selling. Haven't tried either but will report when I do.

Pretty much every IPA/DIPA/TIPA I've had from Other Half has been solid, but I haven't fallen in love with any of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 02, 2019, 02:23:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 02, 2019, 02:22:33 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 02, 2019, 01:17:14 pm
Wanted a lowish ABV NEIPA so  I picked up a 4 pack of the Oh last week.  Didn't love it.  Not sure I like the lupulin powder addition.

I wanted the same so also picked up one of those as well as the 'DDH Citra Daydream' Oat Cream IPA they were selling. Haven't tried either but will report when I do.

Pretty much every IPA/DIPA/TIPA I've had from Other Half has been solid, but I haven't fallen in love with any of them.

The Veridian was my favorite thus far... I've all but given up on Triples. Pointless.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 02, 2019, 02:48:47 pm
As if there weren't enough sick drinkables at Snallygaster, we also get this:

Snally Sightings

When: October 8 – 11

Where: The Strongholds of the NRG Empire

Over 150 breweries will be pouring beer at Snallygaster on October 12. Some of these breweries are local, many are not. Some of those out-of-town breweries distribute in DC, many do not. So, if those latter breweries are going to send a special delivery of beer to Snallygaster, why not have them throw a few more kegs on the truck?

That’s essentially the logic behind the inaugural Snally Sightings, a collection of events you might otherwise refer to as Snally Week.

“In years past, Snallygaster was more about local brewers saving their best for the event, which meant there wasn’t a lot left over for pre-events,” Snally mastermind Greg Engert explained to me earlier this week. “But now, we’re bringing in so many breweries that don’t typically send beer here, and they want to send more than just a couple of kegs.”

It’s also becoming increasingly harder for Engert and company to limit their sections from each brewery when breweries are releasing more and more one-offs and rotating beers.

“When a brewery sends us a list, it’s easy to pick two well-regarded beers for Snally and still have a half-dozen really attractive beers left over,” Engert says. “Once we had a kernel of people who wanted to send us more beer this year, we started working with some other [out-of-town breweries], in addition to some local ones, and Snally Sightings all came together. It’s a pretty awesome week of events.”

Yes, “pretty awesome” would be an accurate statement. Check out the full list below (and click through for draft lists).

Tuesday, October 8th
AZ Wilderness & The Rare Barrel at The Partisan

Wednesday, October 9th
Finback, Magnify, Foam, and Mikerphone at ChurchKey
Cascade, Crooked Stave, and Wolves & People at The Sovereign
Bierstadt, Bond Brothers, and TRVE at Rustico Alexandria
Thursday, October 10th
Narrow Gauge, Deciduous, and Charles Towne Fermentory at Rustico Ballston
 Burley Oak at Red Apron Union Market
Allagash & Commonwealth at Owen’s Ordinary

Friday, October 11th
Bissell Brothers, The Veil, Tired Hands, and Cloudwater at ChurchKey
Equilibrium at B Side
American Solera & Prairie at The Partisan
Fonta Flora, Scratch, Jester King, Pen Druid at The Sovereign

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2019, 12:53:05 pm
A new food hall — the first in Richmond — is opening in Scott’s Addition sometime next year and The Veil Brewing Co. will move its Scott’s Addition taproom into that space when it opens. (https://www.richmond.com/food-drink/restaurant-news/food-hall-opening-in-scott-s-addition-with-vendors-two/article_4334bf2d-9233-5ca2-b679-84a9a8958eb2.html)

and it'll be run by NRG, so maybe you'll be getting more Greg Engert down there!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 04, 2019, 01:08:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 04, 2019, 12:53:05 pm
A new food hall — the first in Richmond — is opening in Scott’s Addition sometime next year and The Veil Brewing Co. will move its Scott’s Addition taproom into that space when it opens. (https://www.richmond.com/food-drink/restaurant-news/food-hall-opening-in-scott-s-addition-with-vendors-two/article_4334bf2d-9233-5ca2-b679-84a9a8958eb2.html)

and it'll be run by NRG, so maybe you'll be getting more Greg Engert down there!!!
This is very much trying to be Union Market in DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 05, 2019, 08:46:49 pm
I'm looking at the 930 tap list and woah when was the last time they added something new? Who even knew the still made oak barrel stout? That keg's probably 10 years old.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2019, 08:55:42 pm
Shouldn’t this be in Hey Seth?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 06, 2019, 01:15:36 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 05, 2019, 08:46:49 pm
I'm looking at the 930 tap list and woah when was the last time they added something new? Who even knew the still made oak barrel stout? That keg's probably 10 years old.

are you basing this observation on a recent visit to the venue, or on the website?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 06, 2019, 08:00:30 am
I noticed the same thing at Stereolab.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2019, 09:46:21 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 06, 2019, 01:15:36 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 05, 2019, 08:46:49 pm
I'm looking at the 930 tap list and woah when was the last time they added something new? Who even knew the still made oak barrel stout? That keg's probably 10 years old.

are you basing this observation on a recent visit to the venue, or on the website?

I was making that obsversation from the venue last night. Though it appears Oak Barrel Stout is indeed still produced.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 07, 2019, 03:33:33 pm
Anybody else going to Snallygaster? The beer list is out.

https://www.snallygasterdc.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 07, 2019, 05:08:09 pm
lol: Baltimore brewers clap back at review culture with ‘2 Stars Not My Style’ sour (https://www.baltimoresun.com/food-drink/bs-fo-two-stars-not-my-style-20191007-20191007-6rlfdt5udjempj7pys2ld4hqyq-story.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 07, 2019, 05:27:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 07, 2019, 05:08:09 pm
lol: Baltimore brewers clap back at review culture with ‘2 Stars Not My Style’ sour (https://www.baltimoresun.com/food-drink/bs-fo-two-stars-not-my-style-20191007-20191007-6rlfdt5udjempj7pys2ld4hqyq-story.html)

It would be funny if DuClaw made any drinkable beer and if I knew Key brewing even existed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 07, 2019, 05:31:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 07, 2019, 05:08:09 pm
lol: Baltimore brewers clap back at review culture with ‘2 Stars Not My Style’ sour (https://www.baltimoresun.com/food-drink/bs-fo-two-stars-not-my-style-20191007-20191007-6rlfdt5udjempj7pys2ld4hqyq-story.html)
Should have included the can image...priceless
(https://www.baltimoresun.com/resizer/LSp8l74ar00T6PYf2Y1BplXvvBs=/800x1000/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/PMADJ63LIRCAZDPNFU2SU76FEQ.png)

I do like untapped...but rarely leave ratings, I just like that I have a log of all the beers/breweries
I've often looked back to remind me of good ones I want to recommend
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 07, 2019, 06:53:08 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on October 04, 2019, 01:08:06 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 04, 2019, 12:53:05 pm
A new food hall — the first in Richmond — is opening in Scott’s Addition sometime next year and The Veil Brewing Co. will move its Scott’s Addition taproom into that space when it opens. (https://www.richmond.com/food-drink/restaurant-news/food-hall-opening-in-scott-s-addition-with-vendors-two/article_4334bf2d-9233-5ca2-b679-84a9a8958eb2.html)

and it'll be run by NRG, so maybe you'll be getting more Greg Engert down there!!!
This is very much trying to be Union Market in DC.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 10, 2019, 11:18:31 am
15... Yes, 15! OH beers en route to DTC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 10, 2019, 11:45:56 am
Quote from: Yada on October 10, 2019, 11:18:31 am
15... Yes, 15! OH beers en route to DTC.

Just made a trip to their sister store in Falls Church yesterday and grabbed some Charlestown Fermentory, Deciduous, and Commonwealth (usually ignore them but wife likes key lime and the beer was well rated). My fridge is full.

Wish they could sell some of that Other Half at Dominion. I'm even teleworking today by can't bring myself to drive all the way to DTC this evening. Hoping to try the Mixed Berry Crunchee at Snallygaster.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 10, 2019, 11:57:08 am
There's also an Equilibrium can drop in the Mosaic District tomorrow. Much closer to home but damn $27 for a four pack of TIPA is crazy town.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 10, 2019, 11:59:45 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 10, 2019, 11:57:08 am
There's also an Equilibrium can drop in the Mosaic District tomorrow. Much closer to home but damn $27 for a four pack of TIPA is crazy town.

And I'm pretty sure a line of neck bears are already forming, no thanks. And no thanks to TIPAs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: medeski7 on October 10, 2019, 01:45:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 10, 2019, 11:57:08 am
There's also an Equilibrium can drop in the Mosaic District tomorrow. Much closer to home but damn $27 for a four pack of TIPA is crazy town.

They make good beer but not better than OH or Aslin, imo.  Their prices are always higher than the competition.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 13, 2019, 02:32:16 pm
October 12, 2013: I run 26.2 miles in 4+ hours through the streets of Baltimore, my 17th and probably last marathon.

October 12, 2019: 20 pounds heavier, I cover four DC blocks in four hours, drinking as much beer as possible at a beer festival.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 13, 2019, 06:39:48 pm
That’s progress!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 13, 2019, 08:00:31 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 13, 2019, 06:39:48 pm
That’s progress!

Both times, I went home and crashed and slept for about 10 hours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 17, 2019, 01:13:15 pm
yet another Thursday night drop by Other Half at DTC:

-'DDH Double Mosaic Dream' Imperial IPA (8.5% ABV) "Double Dry Hopped Double Mosaic Dream is our standard Double Mosaic dry hopped a second time with a mosaic lupulin powder. Lupulin powder is a new hop product that is similar to our standard hops but with all the extra plant filler stripped away. It’s pure hops and it’s awesome." $20/4-pack.

-'The Daydreamiest' Imperial Oat Cream IPA (10.5% ABV) "The Imperial mash up of our 3 favorite Daydream hops, Mosaic, Citra and Galaxy." $22/4-pack.

-'Space Hallucinations' Imperial Oat Cream IPA (10.5% ABV) "Space Hallucinations is an Imperial Oat Cream IPA. It is the continuation of our Space Dream/Space Daydream series, getting our dream/daydream treatment with a heavy dose of oats and a hint of lactose before being hopped with a hallucinogenic amount of Galaxy. Dry hopped 3 times!" $22/4-pack.

-'DDH Small Citra Everything' IPA (6.5% ABV) "IPA brewed with wheat and oats. Hopped exclusively with Citra." $18/4-pack.

-'Double Sunset Worka' Imperial Stout (13.0% ABV) "Brewed with Mudhouse Coffee Roasters coffee, this has a full creamy character and is conditioned on vanilla and Worka coffee that is rich in fruity blueberry notes." $16/500ml bottle.

-'Double Sunset YirgZ' Imperial Stout (13.0% ABV) "Brewed with Mudhouse Coffee Roasters coffee, this stout is creamy and full bodied with vanilla and notes of chocolate, peach and nectarine from this beautiful coffee." $16/500ml bottle.

😳😳Plus one potential surprise arrival 😳😳


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 17, 2019, 01:26:30 pm
Why is it that Other Half charges $16 for a pint of non-barrel aged pastry stout whereas Aslin only charges $8 (back when they were still putting stouts in a can?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 20, 2019, 08:10:05 pm
Tree House, boys. Get you there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 21, 2019, 09:39:58 am
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 20, 2019, 08:10:05 pm
Tree House, boys. Get you there.

Their beers are great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 21, 2019, 11:31:30 am
Picked up Other Half's "Small Citra Everything" at the Maryland Other Half Depot this weekend. That's the way an IPA should taste.

Light, flavorful, and in the mid 6% range. Would drink all day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on October 21, 2019, 02:19:00 pm
Went to the beach.  Discovered,  D9  Wild Things   Superstitious Pigeons.   Excellent.

Going to this on Saturday

https://www.facebook.com/events/1346684995506323/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 22, 2019, 01:15:33 pm
Get a load of this shit.

https://www.metrotimes.com/table-and-bar/archives/2019/10/21/founders-brewing-manager-claims-he-didnt-know-black-employee-is-black
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 22, 2019, 02:57:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 21, 2019, 11:31:30 am
Picked up Other Half's "Small Citra Everything" at the Maryland Other Half Depot this weekend. That's the way an IPA should taste.

Light, flavorful, and in the mid 6% range. Would drink all day.

I had this when I was in Corning. Delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 23, 2019, 09:24:28 am
The Maryland Other Half Depot received a large Equilibrium can drop yesterday...

Maybe my favorite hops/haze brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 23, 2019, 09:29:18 am
Quote from: Yada on October 23, 2019, 09:24:28 am
The Maryland Other Half Depot received a large Equilibrium can drop yesterday...

Maybe my favorite hops/haze brewery.

How is that neckbeard coming along?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 23, 2019, 09:30:17 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 23, 2019, 09:29:18 am
Quote from: Yada on October 23, 2019, 09:24:28 am
The Maryland Other Half Depot received a large Equilibrium can drop yesterday...

Maybe my favorite hops/haze brewery.

How is that neckbeard coming along?

I don't get this post.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 23, 2019, 09:33:30 am
I'm not a big fan of the value ratio of growler fills, but H Street Whole Foods currently has a Burley Oak JREAM beer on draft for growler fills. (Do they ship those cans to anywhere in the DMV?)  I'm not sure how much the cans go for at the brewery, but $20 for a 64 oz fill ($14 for 32) was enough to make me dust off a couple of growlers. I hope my wife likes blueberry.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 23, 2019, 09:36:24 am
Quote from: Yada on October 23, 2019, 09:30:17 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 23, 2019, 09:29:18 am
Quote from: Yada on October 23, 2019, 09:24:28 am
The Maryland Other Half Depot received a large Equilibrium can drop yesterday...

Maybe my favorite hops/haze brewery.

How is that neckbeard coming along?

I don't get this post.

Just making reference to the many beer loving neckbeards who must be making that store their second home...

(https://i.redd.it/fjfahdwgxjbz.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 25, 2019, 10:16:01 am
Quote from: Yada on October 23, 2019, 09:24:28 am
The Maryland Other Half Depot received a large Equilibrium can drop yesterday...

Maybe my favorite hops/haze brewery.

Picked up some of the Equilibrium MC2.  It's excellent.

Question-How come the offerings these days are mostly 16 ounce cans?  I much prefer twelve ouncers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2019, 10:26:38 am
Quote from: Bagley on October 25, 2019, 10:16:01 am
Quote from: Yada on October 23, 2019, 09:24:28 am
The Maryland Other Half Depot received a large Equilibrium can drop yesterday...

Maybe my favorite hops/haze brewery.

Picked up some of the Equilibrium MC2.  It's excellent.

Question-How come the offerings these days are mostly 16 ounce cans?  I much prefer twelve ouncers.

Maybe the Alchemist  started the trend with Heady Topper, and everyone else just fell in line? Interesting question.

If drinking alone, I'd rather have the 12 over the 16, but I find splitting a 16 with my wife is the perfect beer amount.


Edit: They had this exact discussion here:

https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/16-oz-vs-12-oz-cans.615824/

Surly did it long before the Alchemist. Which is not to say that people copied Surly and not the Alchemist.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2019, 10:33:48 am
my biggest gripe with the 16 oz format is...it's a pain to get into a pint glass
you either fill it to the top and it over flows, or you have 2-3oz in a can that you have to put in the fridge/counter while it gets stale/flat/warm

Also is that marketing thing where it seems like you are getting the same amount and it's apples to apples a 6pack
so buying 4 at $16 sounds somewhat ok if a 6 packs were in the $14 range

4 x 16 = 64
6 x 12 = 72
So they are charging more for almost on beer less (2/3rds of one can to be exact)

I'm sure there is a space ratio conversion metric for this
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 25, 2019, 10:52:15 am
Quote from: lickspittle-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on October 25, 2019, 10:33:48 am
my biggest gripe with the 16 oz format is...it's a pain to get into a pint glass
you either fill it to the top and it over flows, or you have 2-3oz in a can that you have to put in the fridge/counter while it gets stale/flat/warm

I mean, fill the glass, 1st sip from the can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2019, 11:16:48 am
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 25, 2019, 10:52:15 am
Quote from: lickspittle-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on October 25, 2019, 10:33:48 am
my biggest gripe with the 16 oz format is...it's a pain to get into a pint glass
you either fill it to the top and it over flows, or you have 2-3oz in a can that you have to put in the fridge/counter while it gets stale/flat/warm

I mean, fill the glass, 1st sip from the can.
even for me...that's a big gulp
and I prefer my big gulps from a glass, so I don't spill it all over me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 25, 2019, 12:51:02 pm
#drinkingproblems
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 25, 2019, 12:58:53 pm
Quote from: lickspittle-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on October 25, 2019, 10:33:48 am
my biggest gripe with the 16 oz format is...it's a pain to get into a pint glass
you either fill it to the top and it over flows, or you have 2-3oz in a can that you have to put in the fridge/counter while it gets stale/flat/warm

Also is that marketing thing where it seems like you are getting the same amount and it's apples to apples a 6pack
so buying 4 at $16 sounds somewhat ok if a 6 packs were in the $14 range

4 x 16 = 64
6 x 12 = 72
So they are charging more for almost on beer less (2/3rds of one can to be exact)

I'm sure there is a space ratio conversion metric for this

Space is shedding a tear of pride right now...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2019, 01:00:25 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 25, 2019, 12:51:02 pm
#drinkingproblems
me
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oKHWBy6GFcLdEhH0Y/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 25, 2019, 03:21:08 pm
I think the trend was actually started by Old Milwaukee or possibly Busch.

That's what I love about HF cans, all 12 oz except their helles/pils/lighter options.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2019, 03:26:09 pm
excellent image in that BA thread
(https://i.imgur.com/NfKk2uZ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 25, 2019, 03:47:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 25, 2019, 03:21:08 pm
I think the trend was actually started by Old Milwaukee or possibly Busch.

That's what I love about HF cans, all 12 oz except their helles/pils/lighter options.

Schlitz was the first one I remember
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 25, 2019, 03:59:46 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 25, 2019, 03:47:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 25, 2019, 03:21:08 pm
I think the trend was actually started by Old Milwaukee or possibly Busch.

That's what I love about HF cans, all 12 oz except their helles/pils/lighter options.

Schlitz was the first one I remember


Schlitz... The first beer I ever tasted probably around four year's old.

My grandpa used to keep a keg in his basement and he'd let me sip the foam!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2019, 04:04:26 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 25, 2019, 03:47:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 25, 2019, 03:21:08 pm
I think the trend was actually started by Old Milwaukee or possibly Busch.

That's what I love about HF cans, all 12 oz except their helles/pils/lighter options.

Schlitz was the first one I remember

This timeline makes it look like Schlitz was first, in 1955.

http://craftcans.com/craftcanspics/cantimeline.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2019, 04:05:48 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 25, 2019, 03:59:46 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 25, 2019, 03:47:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 25, 2019, 03:21:08 pm
I think the trend was actually started by Old Milwaukee or possibly Busch.

That's what I love about HF cans, all 12 oz except their helles/pils/lighter options.

Schlitz was the first one I remember


Schlitz... The first beer I ever tasted probably around four year's old.

My grandpa used to keep a keg in his basement and he'd let me sip the foam!

Budweiser was my first beer, age 6 or so. My dad had a friend visiting and he let me try it. One sip, I spit it out, and didn't taste beer again for another 10 years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 30, 2019, 01:43:06 pm
in case anyone is looking to get their funk on tonight:

NIGHT OF THE LIVING ALES: PART 9 – 40 WILD & FUNKY ALES! @ Churchkey
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 30TH @ 4 PM
On Wednesday, October 30th, our wildly popular and hauntingly memorable Night of the Living Ales event returns for the ninth time! Once again, we are unleashing a host of wild brews, certain to delight and astound. This year’s list will feature no less than 20 undead ales on draft. As an added bonus, we’ll offer an additional 20 bone-chilling bottles at 1/2 price!

details: https://churchkeydc.com/events/ (https://churchkeydc.com/events/)

really nice tap list, and SPACE ALERT: half-price bottled sours!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2019, 04:13:10 pm
walrus themed beer...contender for new brew at club??
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIJmhG8WsAAvxrP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 01, 2019, 01:22:09 pm
this is why the general public makes fun of craft beer:

Leftover Halloween Candy and Beer Pairings (https://www.craftbeer.com/beer-and-food/leftover-halloween-candy-and-beer-pairings)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 07, 2019, 10:26:12 am
I'll be doing my part to celebrate International Stout Day!
https://stoutday.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 13, 2019, 03:48:36 pm
3 Stars Brewing Company
 ·
TICKETS ON SALE NOW!
 Sunday November 24th -

Join us for Hopfunk Fest.

BUY TICKETS 3starsbrewing.com

We are at it again, bringing some of the best beers in the country right into DC's back yard. We will be showcasing tons of hop-forward and sour beers in a celebration of everything delicious. Food vendors, live music performances and so much more. We have limited the number of tickets available this time around to cut down on lines. This event will sell out and there will be no door tickets. General Admission: Tickets are $15 for GA which gains you entrance, a custom glass, and your first 2 drink tickets. VIP: There is also a limited quantity of VIP experience packages which will get you into the event an hour before GA (12 pm start time for VIP), 4 additional drink tickets, these packages are $50 and available on a first-come, first-served basis. All tickets are non-transferable and non-refundable. BEER LIST AND PARTICIPATING BREWERIES TO COME!!!


(https://static.spotapps.co/spots/6f/46f9700d6f428eb09461e54bc24fcf/w926)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 13, 2019, 03:58:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 13, 2019, 03:48:36 pm
BEER LIST AND PARTICIPATING BREWERIES TO COME!!!


They may want to get on that considering this is next weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 14, 2019, 02:15:18 pm
I thought it was supposed to be bottles
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJSRHLmWsAAI94E?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 14, 2019, 02:31:07 pm
^ hipster-fratboy heaven
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 19, 2019, 06:40:37 pm
welp...now I can blame my increase in drinking on UBER! 

(https://www.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/640-width/images/2019/11/articles/main/20191123_woc930.png)
but we all know it's because of Trump

this was an interesting takeaway
That said, there is one group of individuals who clearly benefit from the presence of Uber, Lyft and others: bartenders. Messrs Burgdorf, Lennon and Teltser find that employment at bars and restaurants increases by an average of 2% whenever Uber enters the market.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 19, 2019, 08:58:41 pm
Australia's Lion Little World Beverages to take over by the end of the year. Over 300 employees will get $100,000 pay outs.
In another major blow to the Colorado beer industry in the last two months, New Belgium Brewing on Tuesday announced that after nearly 30 years in the craft beer business, the employee-owned company is selling to Australian-based Lion Little World Beverages, a subsidiary of Japanese company Kirin Holdings Company Limited.
More than 300 of New Belgium’s employee-owners will receive more than $100,000 in retirement money through the deal, “with some receiving significantly greater amounts,” New Belgium founder Kim Jordan wrote in a letter on Tuesday.
“We will no longer be employee owned and it would be easy to see that as a drawback,” Jordan wrote in her letter. “But here’s another way to look at it … Over the life of our (employee stock ownership plan), including this transaction, the total amount paid to current and former employees will be nearly $190 million. We will have helped a significant number of people realize the upside of having equity in something, being a part of the American Dream!”
https://www.denverpost.com/2019/11/19/new-belgium-brewing-sale-kirin/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 19, 2019, 11:57:28 pm
This bums even me out.  But hey, at least Craft Brewers are just like the rest of America - in it for the money!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 20, 2019, 11:04:55 am
Quote from: vansmack on November 19, 2019, 11:57:28 pm
This bums even me out.  But hey, at least Craft Brewers are just like the rest of America - in it for the money!
I think the employees are doing very well in this situationthe total amount paid to current and former employees will be nearly $190 million.
most companies sellout and 98% of the staff don't benefit at all, just the owners/investors

to think someone who was just a bartender at the tap room would get a 100K pay out is pretty nice and as far as I can tell they still have their jobs...just not the equity

When you are as big as NB, you can't operate like a small 50barel brewery, you have operate like a corporation...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 20, 2019, 11:19:45 am
Whenever I see you chuckleheads getting upset that a brewery sells to one of the big boys, I wish you'd take a step back and realize you are in effect going: "hey, I have this co-worker whose company I enjoy and I now hate their guts because the piece of shit had the audacity to retire, take care of their family, and made room for career advancement for their faithful lieutenants who have worked shoulder to shoulder with them. Fuck that guy."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 20, 2019, 11:24:32 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 20, 2019, 11:19:45 am
Whenever I see you chuckleheads getting upset that a brewery sells to one of the big boys, I wish you'd take a step back and realize you are in effect going: "hey, I have this co-worker whose company I enjoy and I now hate their guts because the piece of shit had the audacity to retire, take care of their family, and made room for career advancement for their faithful lieutenants who have worked shoulder to shoulder with them. Fuck that guy."
TLDR
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 20, 2019, 02:30:14 pm
Quote from: And here, right matters ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on November 20, 2019, 11:04:55 am

I think the employees are doing very well in this situationthe total amount paid to current and former employees will be nearly $190 million.
most companies sellout and 98% of the staff don't benefit at all, just the owners/investors

to think someone who was just a bartender at the tap room would get a 100K pay out is pretty nice and as far as I can tell they still have their jobs...just not the equity

Well, the 300 owner employees of their 703 total employees anyway...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2019, 10:41:01 am
Massive Triple Crossing drop at the best beer store in the DMV region this Friday, approximately eight cans and one bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2019, 01:58:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 10:41:01 am
Massive Triple Crossing drop at the best beer store in the DMV region this Friday, approximately eight cans and one bottle.

so are they going to do one per customer, or will they let the first duded scoop up all nine beers?

and i'd hardly call one-and-a-half sixers a "massive drop".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 21, 2019, 02:02:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 10:41:01 am
Massive Triple Crossing drop at the best beer store in the DMV region this Friday, approximately eight cans and one bottle.

How do you like Triple Crossing's IPA's compared to The Veil's? If you work for Paste Magazine, I already know your answer.

I've been to both Triple Crossing locations and had a couple of their beers here in DC, but I've paid way more attention to the Veil and only had cans by the Veil. I'm not sure if that's because the Veil does more hype and I follow it, or if they're actually better.

Edit: I once brought home a four pack of a Berliner from TC, but never any IPA's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2019, 04:18:36 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2019, 01:58:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 10:41:01 am
Massive Triple Crossing drop at the best beer store in the DMV region this Friday, approximately eight cans and one bottle.

so are they going to do one per customer, or will they let the first duded scoop up all nine beers?

and i'd hardly call one-and-a-half sixers a "massive drop".

failol
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2019, 04:20:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 21, 2019, 02:02:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 10:41:01 am
Massive Triple Crossing drop at the best beer store in the DMV region this Friday, approximately eight cans and one bottle.

How do you like Triple Crossing's IPA's compared to The Veil's? If you work for Paste Magazine, I already know your answer.

I've been to both Triple Crossing locations and had a couple of their beers here in DC, but I've paid way more attention to the Veil and only had cans by the Veil. I'm not sure if that's because the Veil does more hype and I follow it, or if they're actually better.

Edit: I once brought home a four pack of a Berliner from TC, but never any IPA's.

TBH, it's been a long time since I've had a Veil IPA that's blown my mind. I took a big step back from chasing every single IPA in 2019 as let's be honest, they all taste pretty similar. I have no interest in triples which seem to be a lot of Veil beers (and aslin).

All of the ipa's I have had from TC have been above average or really good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2019, 04:22:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2019, 01:58:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 10:41:01 am
Massive Triple Crossing drop at the best beer store in the DMV region this Friday, approximately eight cans and one bottle.

so are they going to do one per customer, or will they let the first duded scoop up all nine beers?

and i'd hardly call one-and-a-half sixers a "massive drop".
jez, doesn't even seem to cover the cost of the driver to deliver these 9 items
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2019, 05:28:03 pm
A picture of Space's daughter celebrating her amazing grades on the family vacation to St. Petersburg.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5JF0OWgTLs/?igshid=1qns1vlfyoocm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2019, 06:07:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 05:28:03 pm
A picture of Space's daughter celebrating her amazing grades on the family vacation to St. Petersburg.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5JF0OWgTLs/?igshid=1qns1vlfyoocm

actually, the young lady in that pic looks surprisingly like space's daughter. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2019, 06:45:10 pm
info about joining sapwood's member clubs ("sap" and "wood"), and announcing a new bottle release:

2020 Sap and Wood Memberships (https://sapwoodcellars.com/2020-sap-and-wood-memberships/)

in case you needed an early xmas gift for self..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2019, 06:50:42 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 05:28:03 pm
A picture of Space's daughter celebrating her amazing grades on the family vacation to St. Petersburg.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5JF0OWgTLs/?igshid=1qns1vlfyoocm
I have no idea what space's daughter looks like...but I'm sure she has made that exact same glare at a brewery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 21, 2019, 07:43:47 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 21, 2019, 06:07:40 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 05:28:03 pm
A picture of Space's daughter celebrating her amazing grades on the family vacation to St. Petersburg.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5JF0OWgTLs/?igshid=1qns1vlfyoocm

actually, the young lady in that pic looks surprisingly like space's daughter.

She says "no."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 21, 2019, 07:44:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 05:28:03 pm
A picture of Space's daughter celebrating her amazing grades on the family vacation to St. Petersburg.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5JF0OWgTLs/?igshid=1qns1vlfyoocm

It is quite possible that she once sat in that very chair.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 21, 2019, 07:47:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 04:20:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 21, 2019, 02:02:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 10:41:01 am
Massive Triple Crossing drop at the best beer store in the DMV region this Friday, approximately eight cans and one bottle.

How do you like Triple Crossing's IPA's compared to The Veil's? If you work for Paste Magazine, I already know your answer.

I've been to both Triple Crossing locations and had a couple of their beers here in DC, but I've paid way more attention to the Veil and only had cans by the Veil. I'm not sure if that's because the Veil does more hype and I follow it, or if they're actually better.

Edit: I once brought home a four pack of a Berliner from TC, but never any IPA's.

TBH, it's been a long time since I've had a Veil IPA that's blown my mind. I took a big step back from chasing every single IPA in 2019 as let's be honest, they all taste pretty similar. I have no interest in triples which seem to be a lot of Veil beers (and aslin).

All of the ipa's I have had from TC have been above average or really good.

Yeah, 6-8% is my IPA sweet spot. I've never been a fan of the TIPA. We make it to Richmond once or twice a year, so not much Veil here either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 21, 2019, 11:49:15 pm
NRGs taplist in NYC is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the space ratio being completely blown out of the water up there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 21, 2019, 11:51:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 11:49:15 pm
NRGs taplist in NYC is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the space ratio being completely blown out of the water up there.
To be fair, NY as a state basically rips food from Space’s kid’s mouth. I imagine he melts if he gets too close to the state line by accident.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 22, 2019, 09:04:02 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 21, 2019, 11:51:09 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 11:49:15 pm
NRGs taplist in NYC is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the space ratio being completely blown out of the water up there.
To be fair, NY as a state basically rips food from Space’s kid’s mouth. I imagine he melts if he gets too close to the state line by accident.

I'm not sure what your joke is, but in reality whenever I go back to my home state, I get free home cooked meals.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 22, 2019, 09:05:21 am
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 11:49:15 pm
NRGs taplist in NYC is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the space ratio being completely blown out of the water up there.

And yes, nice tap list. Good to see Colonel Engert fleecing the city slickers in his home state.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 22, 2019, 10:20:54 am
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 11:49:15 pm
NRGs taplist in NYC is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the space ratio being completely blown out of the water up there.

is there a reason you always have to be so cryptic
like just name the bar or put in a link
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 22, 2019, 10:30:00 am
Quote from: Rivkin Award nominee ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on November 22, 2019, 10:20:54 am
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 11:49:15 pm
NRGs taplist in NYC is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the space ratio being completely blown out of the water up there.

is there a reason you always have to be so cryptic
like just name the bar or put in a link

I'm not Yada but I can say that sometimes I've held back on posting info on the internet if I wanted to keep it a secret.  But I don't think there's a need to keep the name of a new beer bar in NYC with a great taplist secret from a half dozen middle aged men in the DMV.

https://untappd.com/v/the-grand-delancey/9523460
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 22, 2019, 10:32:49 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 22, 2019, 10:30:00 am
Quote from: Rivkin Award nominee ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on November 22, 2019, 10:20:54 am
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 11:49:15 pm
NRGs taplist in NYC is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the space ratio being completely blown out of the water up there.

is there a reason you always have to be so cryptic
like just name the bar or put in a link

I'm not Yada but I can say that sometimes I've held back on posting info on the internet if I wanted to keep it a secret.  But I don't think there's a need to keep the name of a new beer bar in NYC with a great taplist secret from a half dozen middle aged men in the DMV.

https://untappd.com/v/the-grand-delancey/9523460
thanks...I did a bunch of searches on NRG bar NYC and articles about NRG and even the NRG website and there was no info
that is a pretty impressive tap list

I know it's sad...but I get most of my Beer related info here, I have no interest in these other sites forums
Like for a while, I only got my news from the Daily Show :)

Now NRG is opening a new place called the Roost in SE that looks too be cool
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 22, 2019, 10:58:17 am
Quote from: Rivkin Award nominee ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on November 22, 2019, 10:20:54 am
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 11:49:15 pm
NRGs taplist in NYC is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the space ratio being completely blown out of the water up there.

is there a reason you always have to be so cryptic
like just name the bar or put in a link

Settle down Francis.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 22, 2019, 10:59:16 am
I'm also concerned this location will take priority over DC and great kegs like Hill Farmstead will no longer make it this far south.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 22, 2019, 12:44:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 22, 2019, 10:58:17 am
Quote from: Rivkin Award nominee ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on November 22, 2019, 10:20:54 am
Quote from: Yada on November 21, 2019, 11:49:15 pm
NRGs taplist in NYC is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the space ratio being completely blown out of the water up there.

is there a reason you always have to be so cryptic
like just name the bar or put in a link

Settle down Francis.
I think you meant this
(https://media.giphy.com/media/krhW9yWEI0x0Y/giphy.gif)

which I respond to with
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/NarrowUnnaturalGentoopenguin-small.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 22, 2019, 07:42:38 pm
Here's one that gets the Space Ratio seal of approval...

BCBS Vanillla, $14 for a 32 oz growler fill or $20 for 64 oz...at H St WF.

Compare that to the 16.9 oz bottles for $25-$30.

They also have regular 2018 BCBS and BCBS Coffee Barleywine for the same price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on November 22, 2019, 09:55:08 pm
  http://www.fourquartersbrewing.com/strikkly-vikkly/         (http://www.fourquartersbrewing.com/strikkly-vikkly/)

(http://www.fourquartersbrewing.com/FirstBatch/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/strikkly-vikkly.jpg)


I knew this fella Victor n highschool, and now there is a beer named after him. Anyone have any familiarity with this brewery?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on November 22, 2019, 11:43:36 pm
Space Math is the new Steiner Math
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 23, 2019, 03:31:09 am
been on a fall beer kick, lots of stouts and winter warmers.  elysian has a special release out now called Cyclops Barrel-Aged Barleywine (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/700/448478/).  it's been a while since i last had a BBA'ed barleywine... gawd this is good.  this beer isn't going to work for everyone but the missus and i are mainlining this stuff... at 15% abv, it can do some damage ;D  first elysian beer i've bought in over a year.

Quote from: Space Freely on November 22, 2019, 07:42:38 pm
Here's one that gets the Space Ratio seal of approval...

BCBS Vanillla, $14 for a 32 oz growler fill or $20 for 64 oz...at H St WF.

Compare that to the 16.9 oz bottles for $25-$30.

They also have regular 2018 BCBS and BCBS Coffee Barleywine for the same price.

that is a ridiculous deal.  i'd be filling every growler i had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 25, 2019, 01:45:44 pm
this may #trigger sweetcell, but the first three bottles of the Sapwood Wood Club were mediocre at best with one being pretty terrible. Still support their haze game, but they have a long way to go with their bottles releases based on these three beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 25, 2019, 02:32:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 25, 2019, 01:45:44 pm
this may #trigger sweetcell, but the first three bottles of the Sapwood Wood Club were mediocre at best with one being pretty terrible. Still support their haze game, but they have a long way to go with their bottles releases based on these three beers.

YOU SIT ON A THRONE OF LIES!!!!!!!!!!

breath in, 3, 4... breath out 3, 4.... breath in 3, 4...

*ahem*

well that sucks.  haven't tried them myself, so can't confirm or deny.  what are the names of those beers?  were they Atomic Apricot (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51460/411645/), Hopade (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51460/344447/) and Mango Meltdown (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51460/422887/)? (full list (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51460/)).  i'm wondering what others think of them...

i would have a word with them next time you visit and let them know that their sours weren't up to your standards.  while i'm sure they'd prefer glowing reviews, they will be thankful for the feedback.  who knows, they might even try to hook you up with something else (no guarantees).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 25, 2019, 02:38:22 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 25, 2019, 02:32:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 25, 2019, 01:45:44 pm
this may #trigger sweetcell, but the first three bottles of the Sapwood Wood Club were mediocre at best with one being pretty terrible. Still support their haze game, but they have a long way to go with their bottles releases based on these three beers.

YOU SIT ON A THRONE OF LIES!!!!!!!!!!

breath in, 3, 4... breath out 3, 4.... breath in 3, 4...

*ahem*

well that sucks.  haven't tried them myself, so can't confirm or deny.  what are the names of those beers?  were they Atomic Apricot (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51460/411645/), Hopade (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51460/344447/) and Mango Meltdown (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51460/422887/)? (full list).  i'm wondering what others think of them...

i would have a word with them next time you visit and let them know that their sours weren't up to your standards.  while i'm sure they'd prefer glowing reviews, they will be thankful for the feedback.  who knows, they might even try to hook you up with something else (no guarantees).

First blush - really not good at all
Thanks For Waiting - the best of bunch, but pretty standard in terms of saisons but to have this as their kick off beer after waiting over a year was not too exciting
No Beginnings - also, really not good at all

These were shared with three other people who all had the same opinion and the Untappd rankings (all greater than 4) must be by club members trying to make others jealous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 25, 2019, 02:39:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 25, 2019, 02:38:22 pm
the Untappd rankings (all greater than 4) must be by club members trying to make others jealous.

yeah, that's definitely a thing... an annoying thing.  not helpful either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 25, 2019, 02:51:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 25, 2019, 02:39:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 25, 2019, 02:38:22 pm
the Untappd rankings (all greater than 4) must be by club members trying to make others jealous.

yeah, that's definitely a thing... an annoying thing.  not helpful either.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, Goshawk's Grasp by Horus was one of the best stouts I've had this year.

Additionally, Ghoulschip was the best non pumpkin-y pumpkin beer I've ever had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 26, 2019, 04:43:16 pm
Space, can confirm that the Triple Crossing beers were all above average to excellent and the 6% to 7%'ers were damn near perfect.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 26, 2019, 05:41:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 25, 2019, 02:51:50 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 25, 2019, 02:39:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 25, 2019, 02:38:22 pm
the Untappd rankings (all greater than 4) must be by club members trying to make others jealous.

yeah, that's definitely a thing... an annoying thing.  not helpful either.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, Goshawk's Grasp by Horus was one of the best stouts I've had this year.

Additionally, Ghoulschip was the best non pumpkin-y pumpkin beer I've ever had.

Had a Horus stout at Snallygaster and had to go back for a rare second. No lines for the Horus beers. Great stuff.

Cascade makes a really good pumpkin sour. They poured Ghoulship at Snally. Was interested, but ultimately skipped, because pumpkin gonna pumpkin. Next time will try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 26, 2019, 05:42:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 26, 2019, 04:43:16 pm
Space, can confirm that the Triple Crossing beers were all above average to excellent and the 6% to 7%'ers were damn near perfect.

I think some of their more West Coasty ipa's are good while their NEIPA's are better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 03, 2019, 03:33:09 am
i'm sure i'll get hate for even mentioning this, but 3 Stars' Illuminati Reserve Society is now open for 2020 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/2020-illuminati-reserve-society-registration-84149139341).  $100 for 5 bottles, a couple of parties and some discounts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 04, 2019, 12:29:50 am
Ballast Point regains micro-cred:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/drink/ct-ballast-point-sale-kings-convicts-20191203-t4b6ug6ywfgyxmkqtnhhs33t7i-story.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 04, 2019, 10:31:16 am
Curious what they paid, considering it was bought for $1bil 4 years ago
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: moeszyslak on December 04, 2019, 10:43:34 am
I hope Kings and Convicts considers reopening the Ballast Point brew pub location in Botetourt County.  It was a gorgeous place to drink beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 04, 2019, 11:18:55 am
So I checked out the local beer distributor in Pa last week and not only to they do 32oz crowlers they also can 16 and and even 8oz ones.  Different size growlers as well, I believe.  Picked up a 32 of the Surly Furious and a four pack of Industrial Arts' Wrench.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 04, 2019, 02:20:18 pm
3 Stars Brewing Company: 8th Annual Holiday Extravaganza - Sunday December 15th!

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/8th-annual-holiday-extravaganza-tickets-84546511893 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/8th-annual-holiday-extravaganza-tickets-84546511893)

Join us for our 8th Annual Holiday Party For the 8th year in a row, we are hosting our massive Holiday Extravaganza at the brewery, this year on December 15th from 1- 6 pm.

As always, we will have a ton of rare and limited releases on draft, specialty can offerings, and a few surprises. Also joining the festivities will be food trucks, DJs, live performances, and more.

General Admission tickets are $15 and include admission, custom glass, and your first drink ticket.

There is also a VIP Jedi Master Experience available that includes early admission to the festival and preferred access to super limited draft offerings (12pm entrance), 4 additional drink tickets, a special limited beer release, and a custom glass.

We are limiting the number of tickets for this year's festivities in order to allow everyone easy access to beers and cut down on congestion throughout the event and live performances.

This event has sold out every year since inception, and we expect more of the same this time around, so don't wait to pick up tickets as there will be No Door Sales.

(https://img.evbuc.com/https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.evbuc.com%2Fimages%2F83398987%2F23392126640%2F1%2Foriginal.20191203-205605?w=800&auto=compress&rect=0%2C0%2C2592%2C1296&s=b754e23ed8c502002bf7569613a120ab)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 04, 2019, 04:46:50 pm
Anderson Valley Brewing Sells to Northern California Entrepreneur and Family (https://www.brewbound.com/news/anderson-valley-brewing-sells-to-northern-california-entrepreneur-and-family)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 05, 2019, 08:20:53 am
Quote from: Yada on November 22, 2019, 10:59:16 am
I'm also concerned this location will take priority over DC and great kegs like Hill Farmstead will no longer make it this far south.

They're having a Monkish event in Dec. Has that ever happened at a DMV NRG?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2019, 04:36:28 pm
Is sweetcell a 3 Stars mole planted in the Pac NW?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2019, 05:20:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 05, 2019, 04:36:28 pm
Is sweetcell a 3 Stars mole planted in the Pac NW?

Undoubtedly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 05, 2019, 06:53:04 pm
nah, i get all their comms, just sharing in case someone is interested.

as i believe i'd said before, i have a soft spot for 3 Stars because they let us buy sacs of grain at wholesale prices back in the day (no idea if it's still happening).  they could have sold us that grain at the regular retail price but the founders, dave and mike, made a point of supporting the homebrewing community.  i doubt  could have brewed as much as i did back then without all that cheap grain.  so in a way, they underwrote my current brewing skillz.  sharing some of their news and offers is a small payback.  feel free to ignore :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 10, 2019, 02:55:20 pm
Happy #NationalLagerDay
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 10, 2019, 03:00:03 pm
Quote from: chimera-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on December 10, 2019, 02:55:20 pm
Happy #NationalLagerDay

I'll be celebrating tonight with a New England IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 12, 2019, 08:53:18 am
Quote from: DuctTapeBanana-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on December 04, 2019, 10:31:16 am
Curious what they paid, considering it was bought for $1bil 4 years ago
Kinda got my question answered

[just four years after dropping $1 billion on craft brewing upstart Ballast Point, Constellation Brands (NYSE:STZ) is selling its record-making prize for an undisclosed sum (read, pennies on the dollar) to tiny operation Kings and Convicts Brewing just outside of Chicago. According to Constellation's most recent quarterly filing, it valued Ballast Point at just $17 million. Yikes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 12, 2019, 09:05:48 am
Quote from: DuctTapeBanana-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on December 12, 2019, 08:53:18 am
Quote from: DuctTapeBanana-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on December 04, 2019, 10:31:16 am
Curious what they paid, considering it was bought for $1bil 4 years ago
Kinda got my question answered

[just four years after dropping $1 billion on craft brewing upstart Ballast Point, Constellation Brands (NYSE:STZ) is selling its record-making prize for an undisclosed sum (read, pennies on the dollar) to tiny operation Kings and Convicts Brewing just outside of Chicago. According to Constellation's most recent quarterly filing, it valued Ballast Point at just $17 million. Yikes.

Todd Alstrom, fco-ounder of Beer Advocate, posted this:

 According to numerous sources, K&C paid somewhere between $50 and $80 million.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/kings-convicts-brewing-co-buys-ballast-point-brewing-co-from-constellation-brands.628376/page-4
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 12, 2019, 10:32:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 12, 2019, 09:05:48 am
Quote from: DuctTapeBanana-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on December 12, 2019, 08:53:18 am
Quote from: DuctTapeBanana-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|ll on December 04, 2019, 10:31:16 am
Curious what they paid, considering it was bought for $1bil 4 years ago
Kinda got my question answered

[just four years after dropping $1 billion on craft brewing upstart Ballast Point, Constellation Brands (NYSE:STZ) is selling its record-making prize for an undisclosed sum (read, pennies on the dollar) to tiny operation Kings and Convicts Brewing just outside of Chicago. According to Constellation's most recent quarterly filing, it valued Ballast Point at just $17 million. Yikes.

Todd Alstrom, fco-ounder of Beer Advocate, posted this:

 According to numerous sources, K&C paid somewhere between $50 and $80 million.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/kings-convicts-brewing-co-buys-ballast-point-brewing-co-from-constellation-brands.628376/page-4
so .08 cents on the dollar!

what sucks personally is I was talking with my broker and wanted to get a play on the legal weed market with my investments
unfortunately there aren't that many options in the US market, but he's like 'get STZ they are pouring tons of cash into it'
so while not getting pennies on the dollar, I did 'buy high' ;)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 12, 2019, 02:32:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 12, 2019, 09:05:48 am
According to numerous sources, K&C paid somewhere between $50 and $80 million.

I was told $75m buy a brewer out here who seemed in the know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 12, 2019, 03:41:10 pm
Quote from: vansmack on December 12, 2019, 02:32:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 12, 2019, 09:05:48 am
According to numerous sources, K&C paid somewhere between $50 and $80 million.

I was told $75m buy a brewer out here who seemed in the know.
Sweetcell?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 12, 2019, 04:11:42 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on December 12, 2019, 03:41:10 pm
Sweetcell?

Sorry, I'll edit my comment to reflect that it was a real brewer.

Which reminds me, last night my favorite bartender at my favorite beer hall down the street from our house had a good laugh about sweetcell.  Whilst he was last visiting, I took him there and he tried all kinds of fancy brews and provided his comments to the bartender, who is not the brewer.  Our favorite was the fancy beer he had that had too much yeast, he may have even described it as "yeasty" while smacking his lips so every time she brings me my blonde, she asks me about the yeast content.  And then we have a good laugh about him.....   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 12, 2019, 05:43:59 pm
wanna save 20% next time you go to churchkey (or any NRG place)...offer good for next 12 days
(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/d879a39f766b935628a8d1295/images/7a654181-b558-4b14-b016-44df4993121a.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 12, 2019, 05:45:21 pm
Quote from: vansmack on December 12, 2019, 04:11:42 pm
Sorry, I'll edit my comment to reflect that it was a real brewer.

Which reminds me, last night my favorite bartender at my favorite beer hall down the street from our house had a good laugh about sweetcell.  Whilst he was last visiting, I took him there and he tried all kinds of fancy brews and provided his comments to the bartender, who is not the brewer.  Our favorite was the fancy beer he had that had too much yeast, he may have even described it as "yeasty" while smacking his lips so every time she brings me my blonde, she asks me about the yeast content.  And then we have a good laugh about him.....   

ouch.  and ouch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 12, 2019, 05:50:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 12, 2019, 05:45:21 pm
ouch.  and ouch.
I know....would expect that from Jules
but that was some shot across the bow from Cap't Smakie
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 12, 2019, 06:44:46 pm
Come on!  I was just trying to spread some holiday cheer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Joke Insurance on December 17, 2019, 03:10:04 pm
Last night, I finally drank Sap from Tree House Brewing Company.

Top notch IPA!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 17, 2019, 10:45:00 pm
Woah



Give the gift of Other Half Brewing Company!
🕎🎄 Holiday Mega Drop & Tap Takeover! 🎄🕎
🚨 Incoming delivery, arriving Thursday 12/19 🚨
🔥 Tap takeover Friday 12/20 at 4:00pm 🔥
Lots of details to cover. Can list and event details below.
Come out Thursday for the following:
**We will aim to begin sales by 7:00pm**
(As always, same exact pricing as brewery direct)
-'Space Broccoli' Imperial IPA (7.9% ABV) "Our classic Broccoli recipe with Mosaic, Simcoe, Hallertau Blanc and then we swapped the Cascade for a ton of Galaxy." $18/4-pack.
-'Triple Mylar Bags' Imperial IPA (10.0% ABV) "One of our absolute favorites, Mylar Bags, finally gets tripled. Aggressively hopped with Amarillo, El Dorado, Mosaic, Citra, and Galaxy." $22/4-pack. ⁠⠀
⁠⠀
-'DDH Green Diamonds' Imperial IPA (9.1% ABV) "Our OG hop combo of Galaxy and Amarillo is back." $18/4-pack.
⁠⠀
-'Cream on the Inside Green on the Outside' Imperial Oat Cream IPA (9.4% ABV) "This beer is brewed with 2-row and almost 50% oats with a small hit of lactose for smoothness. We then furiously hopped it with Citra, Motueka, Riwaka and Galaxy hops at 8 lbs/bbl. $20/4-pack.
-'Multi-Chroma' IPA (6.3% ABV) "We are bringing together 6 of our favorite hops from this series and mushing it into one beer. We are using our hand selected Citra, Mosaic and Simcoe from Yakima. Our hand selected Motueka and Nelson Sauvin from @freestylehops in NZ and some super dope Galaxy from Australia to make a complex hop driven crushable IPA." $16/4-pack.
-'DDH True Green' Imperial IPA (7.9% ABV) "Double Dry Hopped True Green is an Imperial IPA brewed with Citra, Motueka, Mandarina Bavaria and Kohatu and an extra dry hopping!" $20/4-pack.
😳 Plus a few potential surprises! 😳

-------------------------------------
Draft List: (all on tap by 4:00pm Friday)
-Snowbirds 4 Carrot Cake Imperial Stout (J. Wake collab)
-Gravity Gumbo Imperial Stout
(Parish Brewing Company collab)
-Monkish Peanuts Imperial Stout
-Coco Crazee Imperial Stout
-Gingerbread Crunchee Berliner Weiss
-Strawberry Cheesecake Berliner Weiss
-DDH Vapor Ringz Imperial IPA
-DDH Forever Simcoe Imperial IPA
-Triple Mosaic Dream Imperial IPA
-Tumbleweeds Helles Lager
-Tremendous Cream Imperial Oat Cream IPA
-DDH Ain't Nothing Nice IPA
-Space Broccoli Imperial IPA
-DDH Green Diamonds Imperial IPA
-Cream on the Outside, Green on the Inside Imperial IPA
-DDH Citra Daydream Oat Cream IPA
-HDHC Citra + Mosaic Imperial IPA
-Pintxos Imperial IPA (Basqueland Brewing collab)
-Florets IPA
-DDH Oh...Forever Imperial IPA
-DDH Dream in Green IPA
-Lettuce Imperial IPA
-------------------------------------
Some of the OH squad may come down to join the party. Who knows what else they might have up their sleeves? Don't miss!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2019, 10:14:01 am
I swear every OH drop will be my last for a while. Looks like I’ll be stopping by again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2019, 10:28:43 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 18, 2019, 10:14:01 am
I swear every OH drop will be my last for a while. Looks like I’ll be stopping by again.


Hahahah... Same.

The high density hop charge Mosaic/citra from last week was one of the best hop offerings I've had in a while.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 18, 2019, 10:39:32 am
I'm off Friday and going to Richmond Saturday. Between the OH drop, the Bissell Bros drop at Dominion, and potential stops at the Veil and Triple Crossing, I'm also going to have to buy a second fridge (beer space in fridge is still more than half full, mostly with OH.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 18, 2019, 11:15:32 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 18, 2019, 10:39:32 am
I'm off Friday and going to Richmond Saturday. Between the OH drop, the Bissell Bros drop at Dominion, and potential stops at the Veil and Triple Crossing, I'm also going to have to buy a second fridge (beer space in fridge is still more than half full, mostly with OH.)

The question is, how don't you already have a second fridge?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 18, 2019, 11:23:53 am
Time to up your beer intake
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 18, 2019, 11:41:52 am
Quote from: Yada on December 18, 2019, 11:15:32 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 18, 2019, 10:39:32 am
I'm off Friday and going to Richmond Saturday. Between the OH drop, the Bissell Bros drop at Dominion, and potential stops at the Veil and Triple Crossing, I'm also going to have to buy a second fridge (beer space in fridge is still more than half full, mostly with OH.)

The question is, how don't you already have a second fridge?

Only the drink fresh stuff gets put in the fridge. The stuff that's ok to age sits in the basement, sans fridge.

My wife is always saying she's going to buy me a beer fridge but I always say no because we'll end up with more drink fresh beer than we can handle. Limiting to a certain space in one fridge limits purchases and enforces a drinking relatively fresh policy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 20, 2019, 10:04:25 am
I'm a huge fan of beer in cans for many reasons...but I don't particularly love drinking out of them

This looks like a great idea
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/drafttop/draft-top-and-drink-topless

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/026/044/073/9737beb5a6018d70e2143e4a5d44c292_original.gif?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1565055006&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=9ceb54e19529bb607c7c5098e1c25ff3)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 20, 2019, 10:54:40 am
The beer vendor at Camden Yards was doing that 20 years ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 20, 2019, 11:02:07 am
It's all fun and games until you slice your lip.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 20, 2019, 11:29:37 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 20, 2019, 10:54:40 am
The beer vendor at Camden Yards was doing that 20 years ago.
at least 25 as I remember that guy in the mid 90s
although he did it to pour quicker into cups, not to drink out of

I did love that and possibly my best memory from the bunch of free games I got to see in the 90s

Quote
It's all fun and games until you slice your lip.
My understanding from the website is they are safe to drink from the way it cuts the top...but that's putting some faith in the manufacturer of a $20 product
but it was my first thought to that you'll rip your lip open
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 20, 2019, 10:47:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 20, 2019, 11:02:07 am
It's all fun and games until you slice your lip.

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/025/660/856/5dc502d7b544b140903ed4033e251e67_original.gif?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1561929018&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=8df8d2a346f48bb621d8afcd3fbb900c)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 10, 2020, 06:04:32 pm
Man, its crickets in here? Did yadasacker quit drinking or something?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 10, 2020, 08:29:49 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 10, 2020, 06:04:32 pm
Man, its crickets in here? Did yadasacker quit drinking or something?

Oh hey Brennser, what you been drinking?

Today I had a glass of Abraxas at P Street Whole Foods. They poured me 16 oz and charged me the 10 price, $7. What an awesome beer. Not the best place to drink a beer though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 10, 2020, 09:51:25 pm
But what song were they playing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2020, 03:23:09 pm
Went to Aslin after doing wreath clean up at Arlington Cemetery today.

Beers are still very good. Space is as boring as any typical brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 12, 2020, 04:30:12 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2020, 03:23:09 pm
Space is as boring as any typical brewery.

SHOTS FIRED.

Space, you gonna take this?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 12, 2020, 07:18:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 12, 2020, 04:30:12 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2020, 03:23:09 pm
Space is as boring as any typical brewery.

SHOTS FIRED.

Space, you gonna take this?!?

My daughter just asked me why i was laughing. Seems too difficult to explain. It does go along with the question she always asks me.."*, Why are you so dull?"

Craft Beer Cellar had a blast of barrel aged Fremont beer for sale on Saturday. Three type of B-Bomb, two types of Dark Star, and Rusty Nail. Multiple years of everything.

I picked up 2019 Coffee and Cinnamon B-Bomb, 2019 Coconut B-Bomb, and 2019 Rusty Nail. That's all I could afford.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 12, 2020, 07:56:00 pm
 :D

I’ll need to be a tad more careful with my posts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 13, 2020, 12:07:27 pm
I'll be grateful for that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 13, 2020, 07:12:31 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/81825598_10156885058110418_4000303453975871488_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQkTRJHLipAjMgzr3Lxy_4iV1xcVoajxiqG1IMacB4jKmv15ljdd49jxdIPHM-xO1kg&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=c557eff97b8061c432882d72c1b9badc&oe=5E9E5AD4)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 13, 2020, 07:33:42 pm
Doesn't sound like sour grapes at all.

I've never had one, likely won't ever try one, but they built a multi-billion industry out of them and my bar owning friends say they can't keep them in stock.  On tap coming up next?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 13, 2020, 08:00:23 pm
Quote from: vansmack on January 13, 2020, 07:33:42 pm
Doesn't sound like sour grapes at all.

I've never had one, likely won't ever try one, but they built a multi-billion industry out of them and my bar owning friends say they can't keep them in stock.  On tap coming up next?
Truly is on tap already.

My bar owning friends predict this is going to kill microbreweries. Or at least thin the market.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 13, 2020, 09:22:55 pm
I don't really love Stone much anymore, but i still love Greg Koch.

This movie was a good watch. https://www.amazon.com/Beer-Jesus-America-Greg-Koch/dp/B081G78XG3

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on January 13, 2020, 09:45:38 pm
I, am drinking a Stone, Fear.  Movie. Lions.  Dipa.   

Good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 13, 2020, 09:51:34 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on January 13, 2020, 09:45:38 pm
I, am drinking a Stone, Fear.  Movie. Lions.  Dipa.   

Good.

I, am so glad, you're not drinking a hard seltzer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 14, 2020, 11:14:10 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 13, 2020, 08:00:23 pm
Quote from: vansmack on January 13, 2020, 07:33:42 pm
Doesn't sound like sour grapes at all.

I've never had one, likely won't ever try one, but they built a multi-billion industry out of them and my bar owning friends say they can't keep them in stock.  On tap coming up next?
Truly is on tap already.

My bar owning friends predict this is going to kill microbreweries. Or at least thin the market.
So I'm not sure I agree with this
maybe some beer craft brew jonny come lately beer drinkers will be moved to drink this zima in a can product
but I don't think that the neckbeards who drive an hour to stand in line to pick up 4 16oz 4packs at $22 a pop are going to start drinking this stuff

now the people who drink bud, bud lite, coors, miller lite. Michalobe ultra, Corona Light, ....well honestly they don't really like beer that much and only drink it because it has alcohol in it....so those customers will easily be swayed by Nu-Zima...mostly because it's lower calorie and doesn't make their breath stink
That customer is probably 60-80% of the beer drinkers out there...so yes that market is huge
but those people weren't really supporting the craft beer market at all...they probably got dragged to to a brewery with their nutty hop-head friend and when they arrived asked the bar tender in hushed tone "what's the least yeasty option you have that kinda tastes like coors light"

The microbreweries are going to go belly up as there is just only so much those neckbeards can drink, there is just too much saturation.  My opinion we hit peak-craft in like 2016.  Kinda shocks me that new ones keep opening and the bust hasn't happened already
and let's be honest...the majority of these hop-head a craft beer sluts and will go to any port in a storm and show almost no loyalty to brewers (I am a self admitted craft beer slut) that's a really hard business model to maintain when the customers who love your product never get it again as there is another fancy new one down the block

As for craft breweries and setlzer...a lot of them are jumping on this band wagon
I was at MIA down in Miami and they make some killer beers, but they also had about 12 different HRD WTR on tap
I tried a few and they weren't bad, but it just seemed like drinking a la criox...with undetectable alcohol (that also appeals to most)
I think craft breweries would be smart to have a few of these on tap/available...for those friends who get dragged to the latest tapping event

Koch's last line is great tho....and I 100% agree
same reason I rarely go to NYE or St Patty's day parties
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 14, 2020, 12:26:16 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 10, 2020, 06:04:32 pm
Man, its crickets in here? Did yadasacker quit drinking or something?

I think you confused me with Brettnotbritt
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 14, 2020, 12:31:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 14, 2020, 12:26:16 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 10, 2020, 06:04:32 pm
Man, its crickets in here? Did yadasacker quit drinking or something?

I think you confused me with Brettnotbritt

Well one of you looks Jewish and the other actually is....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 14, 2020, 12:33:23 pm
Quote from: Lil' Side H ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on January 14, 2020, 11:14:10 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 13, 2020, 08:00:23 pm
Quote from: vansmack on January 13, 2020, 07:33:42 pm
Doesn't sound like sour grapes at all.

I've never had one, likely won't ever try one, but they built a multi-billion industry out of them and my bar owning friends say they can't keep them in stock.  On tap coming up next?
Truly is on tap already.

My bar owning friends predict this is going to kill microbreweries. Or at least thin the market.
So I'm not sure I agree with this
maybe some beer craft brew jonny come lately beer drinkers will be moved to drink this zima in a can product
but I don't think that the neckbeards who drive an hour to stand in line to pick up 4 16oz 4packs at $22 a pop are going to start drinking this stuff

now the people who drink bud, bud lite, coors, miller lite. Michalobe ultra, Corona Light, ....well honestly they don't really like beer that much and only drink it because it has alcohol in it....so those customers will easily be swayed by Nu-Zima...mostly because it's lower calorie and doesn't make their breath stink
That customer is probably 60-80% of the beer drinkers out there...so yes that market is huge
but those people weren't really supporting the craft beer market at all...they probably got dragged to to a brewery with their nutty hop-head friend and when they arrived asked the bar tender in hushed tone "what's the least yeasty option you have that kinda tastes like coors light"

The microbreweries are going to go belly up as there is just only so much those neckbeards can drink, there is just too much saturation.  My opinion we hit peak-craft in like 2016.  Kinda shocks me that new ones keep opening and the bust hasn't happened already
and let's be honest...the majority of these hop-head a craft beer sluts and will go to any port in a storm and show almost no loyalty to brewers (I am a self admitted craft beer slut) that's a really hard business model to maintain when the customers who love your product never get it again as there is another fancy new one down the block

As for craft breweries and setlzer...a lot of them are jumping on this band wagon
I was at MIA down in Miami and they make some killer beers, but they also had about 12 different HRD WTR on tap
I tried a few and they weren't bad, but it just seemed like drinking a la criox...with undetectable alcohol (that also appeals to most)
I think craft breweries would be smart to have a few of these on tap/available...for those friends who get dragged to the latest tapping event

Koch's last line is great tho....and I 100% agree
same reason I rarely go to NYE or St Patty's day parties

Most craft beer drinkers aren't neckbeards driving an hour to buy $22 four packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 14, 2020, 12:38:29 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 14, 2020, 12:33:23 pm
Most craft beer drinkers aren't neckbeards driving an hour to buy $22 four packs.
you may not have facial hair, but I'm certain you've driven far to pay that much for that little beer...just based on your posts here

yes, that is not the majority of craft beer drinkers...but it's what the whole movement was founded on
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 14, 2020, 06:12:45 pm
KBS espresso... yeay.

https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/kbs-espresso/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 14, 2020, 06:16:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 14, 2020, 06:12:45 pm
KBS espresso... yeay.

https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/kbs-espresso/

Can confirm not that good and waaaaay too much coffee.

Can also confirm CBS in the 12oz bottles are absolutely delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 14, 2020, 06:22:12 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 14, 2020, 06:12:45 pm
KBS espresso... yeay.

https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/kbs-espresso/
I like the tag line
Who says you can’t start your day with a barrel-aged stout?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 14, 2020, 07:54:34 pm
Quote from: A+ Kindness student ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on January 14, 2020, 06:22:12 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 14, 2020, 06:12:45 pm
KBS espresso... yeay.

https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/kbs-espresso/
I like the tag line
Who says you can’t start your day with a barrel-aged stout?

well, this from the makers of Breakfast Stout...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 14, 2020, 09:33:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 14, 2020, 06:12:45 pm
KBS espresso... yeay.

https://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/kbs-espresso/

I have two sitting in my basement.

I also grabbed bottles of Frangelic Brown and Imperial Stout. The Frangelic Brown was so good I had to get a four pack...at $10 what a steal.

Are we all now ok with Founders given their recent racist past?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 14, 2020, 10:04:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 10, 2020, 08:29:49 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 10, 2020, 06:04:32 pm
Man, its crickets in here? Did yadasacker quit drinking or something?

Oh hey Brennser, what you been drinking?

Today I had a glass of Abraxas at P Street Whole Foods. They poured me 16 oz and charged me the 10 price, $7. What an awesome beer. Not the best place to drink a beer though.

Before I got violently ill this week I had some great beers in San Francisco. 2014 BCBS Proprietors is still drinking phenomenally, Cable Car and also found a bar with Fundamental Observation on draft
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 16, 2020, 10:08:21 am
I been drinking Ballast Point Fathom IPA lately

Kind of tired of DC Brau or Dales Pale Ale

Only issue with this beer is it kicks my ass
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 16, 2020, 11:34:31 am
Quote from: hutch on January 16, 2020, 10:08:21 am
I been drinking Ballast Point Fathom IPA lately

Kind of tired of DC Brau or Dales Pale Ale

Only issue with this beer is it kicks my ass

A 6% abv beer kicks your ass? I can only imagine what your wife does to your ass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 16, 2020, 01:13:52 pm
I don’t think it’s the abv

It just makes me want to take a nap

But I am pretty sure I can out drink anyone here...unfortunately
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 16, 2020, 01:28:28 pm
Quote from: hutch on January 16, 2020, 01:13:52 pm
I don’t think it’s the abv

It just makes me want to take a nap

But I am pretty sure I can out drink anyone here...unfortunately

Since this thread began many years ago my typical nightly consumption has gone from splitting a 12 oz bottle with my wife to splitting a 16 oz can with her. ABV usually anywhere from 4% to 10%. So I'm gaining on you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 16, 2020, 08:32:30 pm
Quote from: hutch on January 16, 2020, 01:13:52 pm
But I am pretty sure I can out drink anyone here...unfortunately

you're passing out after one IPA, yet you claim to be able to drink anyone here under the table? 

i've seen pix of you, you're a pretty skinny guy - i wonder how you'd fare in a drinking competition with a 300 pounder...

seriously tho: many claim that hops are soporific. maybe that's what's knocking you out.  some people like to stuff hops into their pillows, claiming it aids in falling asleep.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 16, 2020, 09:20:10 pm
I don’t have this issue with other similar IPAs

Well I am just telling you I can drink a lot...not showing off!


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 16, 2020, 10:20:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 16, 2020, 08:32:30 pm
Quote from: hutch on January 16, 2020, 01:13:52 pm
But I am pretty sure I can out drink anyone here...unfortunately

you're passing out after one IPA, yet you claim to be able to drink anyone here under the table? 

i've seen pix of you, you're a pretty skinny guy - i wonder how you'd fare in a drinking competition with a 300 pounder...

seriously tho: many claim that hops are soporific. maybe that's what's knocking you out.  some people like to stuff hops into their pillows, claiming it aids in falling asleep.

300 pounds? Have you really let yourself go that much?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 17, 2020, 03:26:57 pm
Do we need a separate "how much do you weigh?" thread?

5'10" and 156, for the record.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 17, 2020, 03:37:43 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on January 17, 2020, 03:26:57 pm
Do we need a separate "how much do you weigh?" thread?

5'10" and 156, for the record.
do we need a 'fuck you mr. healthy' tread  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 17, 2020, 03:51:06 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on January 17, 2020, 03:26:57 pm
Do we need a separate "how much do you weigh?" thread?

5'10" and 156, for the record.

My wife would call you way too thin and not manly enough. And of course you wouldn't care.

I was 5'9" 166 the last time I ran a marathon and I was pretty dang skinny. Now I'm 5'8", and a more manly weight i'm not quite happy with.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 17, 2020, 03:54:35 pm
Quote from: I'm a Liberal Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on January 17, 2020, 03:37:43 pm
do we need a 'fuck you mr. healthy' tread  ;)

6'1". 145 lbs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 17, 2020, 04:43:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 17, 2020, 03:51:06 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on January 17, 2020, 03:26:57 pm
Do we need a separate "how much do you weigh?" thread?

5'10" and 156, for the record.

My wife would call you way too thin and not manly enough. And of course you wouldn't care.

I was 5'9" 166 the last time I ran a marathon and I was pretty dang skinny. Now I'm 5'8", and a more manly weight i'm not quite happy with.

I did notice your hands looked quite swollen the last time I saw you. Lay off the hops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 17, 2020, 05:02:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 17, 2020, 04:43:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 17, 2020, 03:51:06 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on January 17, 2020, 03:26:57 pm
Do we need a separate "how much do you weigh?" thread?

5'10" and 156, for the record.

My wife would call you way too thin and not manly enough. And of course you wouldn't care.

I was 5'9" 166 the last time I ran a marathon and I was pretty dang skinny. Now I'm 5'8", and a more manly weight i'm not quite happy with.

I did notice your hands looked quite swollen the last time I saw you. Lay off the hops.

Swollen hands? What does that even mean? My knee is quite swollen. Going to be tough standing at shows this Winter/Spring.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 17, 2020, 05:25:45 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 17, 2020, 05:02:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 17, 2020, 04:43:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 17, 2020, 03:51:06 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on January 17, 2020, 03:26:57 pm
Do we need a separate "how much do you weigh?" thread?

5'10" and 156, for the record.

My wife would call you way too thin and not manly enough. And of course you wouldn't care.

I was 5'9" 166 the last time I ran a marathon and I was pretty dang skinny. Now I'm 5'8", and a more manly weight i'm not quite happy with.

I did notice your hands looked quite swollen the last time I saw you. Lay off the hops.

Swollen hands? What does that even mean? My knee is quite swollen. Going to be tough standing at shows this Winter/Spring.

It means your fingers look like vienna sausages
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 17, 2020, 05:32:21 pm
Not good at all based on my 20 seconds of research


https://www.buoyhealth.com/symptoms-a-z/hand-swelling/


Space you need to tell this to your Dr at annual physical....you are getting them, right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 17, 2020, 05:53:36 pm
My hands are not swollen but thanks for the concern. Yes i do get an annual physical one comomg up soom. My  doctor is pretty sexy so  Im quite looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on January 17, 2020, 06:00:32 pm
The Nile is not just a river.....oh wait it is


Is this sexy DR in the Cigna PPO?


I gotta say I was thinking yesterday how likely it is your wife wears a strap on and bones you from behind.......but I didn’t want to say anything #edgelordingit
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 17, 2020, 06:07:36 pm
Quote from: hutch on January 17, 2020, 06:00:32 pm
The Nile is not just a river.....oh wait it is


Is this sexy DR in the Cigna PPO?


I gotta say I was thinking yesterday how likely it is your wife wears a strap on and bones you from behind.......but I didn’t want to say anything #edgelordingit

We've done that before and it's not as good as the real thing


#tmi
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 17, 2020, 06:12:27 pm
whoa...the beer thread is getting quite toasty
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 17, 2020, 07:03:23 pm
(https://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/foothills-sexual-choc.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 22, 2020, 12:03:50 pm
Beer Maria, count us in: All Time Low partners with Baltimore brewery and we’re drinking in the pop-punk nostalgia (https://www.baltimoresun.com/food-drink/bs-fo-full-tilt-beer-maria-20200117-20200122-drv5p56rc5hgnozdxt3ifcgz44-story.html?fbclid=IwAR3FnmopQ-r7aMHIaVj31VB47kyCKBzDr4asJEtiwPx2jaxw40z5N8Ek0zM)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 24, 2020, 12:18:36 pm
Happy National Beer Can Day!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2020, 02:24:52 pm
(https://i.insider.com/5b68f8ae64dce830008b4bcb?width=1300&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
Discuss...
(not my hand)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 27, 2020, 02:36:00 pm
I just came here to say that it's not my hand either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 27, 2020, 06:19:13 pm
#notmyhand
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 27, 2020, 08:51:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 27, 2020, 02:36:00 pm
I just came here to say that it's not my hand either.

Much too svelte.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 28, 2020, 12:23:49 pm
Mow that the hand issue has been resolved....is it any good?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:41:52 pm
per the label, it's "hoppy sparkling water", not beer, therefore BANNED FROM THIS THREAD.

(if and when it appears in WA, i'll let you know)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 28, 2020, 02:43:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:41:52 pm
per the label, it's "hoppy sparkling water", not beer, therefore BANNED FROM THIS THREAD.

(if and when it appears in WA, i'll let you know)

I've been crushing the lagunitas hop water (unfortunately there's no THC in it) and I've got to say it's absolutely delicious. It's as good tasting, if not better than most session IPAs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:59:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 28, 2020, 02:43:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:41:52 pm
per the label, it's "hoppy sparkling water", not beer, therefore BANNED FROM THIS THREAD.

(if and when it appears in WA, i'll let you know)

I've been crushing the lagunitas hop water (unfortunately there's no THC in it) and I've got to say it's absolutely delicious. It's as good tasting, if not better than most session IPAs.

you talking about their Hoppy Refresher (https://www.lagunitas.com/story/hoppy-refresher)?  haven't tried it yet, but looks interesting...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 28, 2020, 03:09:07 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:59:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 28, 2020, 02:43:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:41:52 pm
per the label, it's "hoppy sparkling water", not beer, therefore BANNED FROM THIS THREAD.

(if and when it appears in WA, i'll let you know)

I've been crushing the lagunitas hop water (unfortunately there's no THC in it) and I've got to say it's absolutely delicious. It's as good tasting, if not better than most session IPAs.

you talking about their Hoppy Refresher (https://www.lagunitas.com/story/hoppy-refresher)?  haven't tried it yet, but looks interesting...

Yessir. Basically a hoppy la Croix
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 28, 2020, 05:25:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:41:52 pm
per the label, it's "hoppy sparkling water", not beer, therefore BANNED FROM THIS THREAD.

(if and when it appears in WA, i'll let you know)

The White Claw Seltzer guys are worth billions, creating a multi-billion dollar industry.

You guys are making fruity saisons in your backyard to argue about the yeastiness with your bro's in the garage while listening to crackling vinyl because you like it's warmth.

Someone's doing it right, and it might not be you...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 28, 2020, 05:42:58 pm
Quote from: vansmack on January 28, 2020, 05:25:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:41:52 pm
per the label, it's "hoppy sparkling water", not beer, therefore BANNED FROM THIS THREAD.

(if and when it appears in WA, i'll let you know)

The White Claw Seltzer guys are worth billions, creating a multi-billion dollar industry.

You guys are making fruity saisons in your backyard to argue about the yeastiness with your bro's in the garage while listening to crackling vinyl because you like it's warmth.

Someone's doing it right, and it might not be you...
it's not all about the benjamins
and Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 28, 2020, 06:00:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 28, 2020, 02:43:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:41:52 pm
per the label, it's "hoppy sparkling water", not beer, therefore BANNED FROM THIS THREAD.

(if and when it appears in WA, i'll let you know)

I've been crushing the lagunitas hop water (unfortunately there's no THC in it) and I've got to say it's absolutely delicious. It's as good tasting, if not better than most session IPAs.

What's a sixer set you back?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 28, 2020, 06:56:42 pm
Quote from: Bagley on January 28, 2020, 06:00:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 28, 2020, 02:43:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:41:52 pm
per the label, it's "hoppy sparkling water", not beer, therefore BANNED FROM THIS THREAD.

(if and when it appears in WA, i'll let you know)

I've been crushing the lagunitas hop water (unfortunately there's no THC in it) and I've got to say it's absolutely delicious. It's as good tasting, if not better than most session IPAs.

What's a sixer set you back?

$6.99 a four pack
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on January 28, 2020, 07:02:15 pm
Wouldn't it be, a lot easier, if you guys just posted the answer, and stopped quoting every time, that you need to post an answer to the question,
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 07:21:00 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on January 28, 2020, 07:02:15 pm
Wouldn't it be, a lot easier, if you guys just posted the answer, and stopped quoting every time, that you need to post an answer to the question,

i'll do that if you drop the commas - deal?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 28, 2020, 07:36:38 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on January 28, 2020, 07:02:15 pm
Wouldn't it be, a lot easier, if you guys just posted the answer, and stopped quoting every time, that you need to post an answer to the question,

Is this a question?  I can't tell without the question mark at the end...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 28, 2020, 07:51:03 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on January 28, 2020, 07:02:15 pm
Wouldn't it be, a lot easier, if you guys just posted the answer, and stopped quoting every time, that you need to post an answer to the question,

Take...,.a, hike!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on January 28, 2020, 08:07:26 pm
I can, see, why there are 5000 members here . . . and, only 10 people post.

It was, a simple question, since quoting all the time, takes up so much space.   I just, thought it would be easier, without all the quotes.

Think, of the children.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 28, 2020, 08:10:43 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on January 28, 2020, 08:07:26 pm
Think, of the children.
Fuck the children - J.E.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on January 28, 2020, 08:13:13 pm
J.E.?  Wait, what.  Oh . . . My . . . God, don't leave me, hanging.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 28, 2020, 08:23:59 pm
I have no problem with quoting, but walkie would be on to to something had he said this quoting:

Quote from: Bagley on January 28, 2020, 06:00:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 28, 2020, 02:43:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 28, 2020, 02:41:52 pm
per the label, it's "hoppy sparkling water", not beer, therefore BANNED FROM THIS THREAD.

(if and when it appears in WA, i'll let you know)

I've been crushing the lagunitas hop water (unfortunately there's no THC in it) and I've got to say it's absolutely delicious. It's as good tasting, if not better than most session IPAs.

What's a sixer set you back?

$6.99 a four pack


Could simply just have been this, for the children:


Quote from: Yada on January 28, 2020, 06:56:42 pm
What's a sixer set you back?

$6.99 a four pack

(not picking on you Yada, just happened to be the nearest example)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 29, 2020, 10:37:09 am
Quote from: Look, look, wait ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on January 28, 2020, 08:10:43 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on January 28, 2020, 08:07:26 pm
Think, of the children.
Fuck the children - J.E.

#savethepixels
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on January 29, 2020, 11:13:26 am
Been going to Sapwood Cellars a bunch lately. Their beer is just so darn delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2020, 11:32:46 am
Quote from: K8teebug on January 29, 2020, 11:13:26 am
Been going to Sapwood Cellars a bunch lately. Their beer is just so darn delicious.

Indeed it is. Wish their tasting room was in a more inviting and (for me) convenient location.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2020, 01:42:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 29, 2020, 11:32:46 am
Quote from: K8teebug on January 29, 2020, 11:13:26 am
Been going to Sapwood Cellars a bunch lately. Their beer is just so darn delicious.

Indeed it is. Wish their tasting room was in a more inviting and (for me) convenient location.
yeah...I've been wanting to bad...but being in Columbia MD is about as convenient as Columbia the country for me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 29, 2020, 02:32:11 pm
virginians: boohoo.  for years y'all had all the top-tier breweries... nice to see finally MD score one ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2020, 03:01:16 pm
With all the port city love here...
9th Anniversary Celebration Still On, No COLOSSAL IX Release  (https://www.portcitybrewing.com/9th-anniversary-celebration-still-on-no-colossal-ix-release/)

Each year to celebrate our anniversary we craft a unique style of beer – this year we decided on a German-style Weizenbock.  Sadly, after weeks of monitoring the brewing process we have decided Colossal IX does not represent our dedication to great quality beer, and we will not be releasing an anniversary beer in 2020.  We bring you this news with humility and an unwavering commitment to letting quality continue to guide our brewery into the future.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 07, 2020, 10:06:35 am
the boys at sapwood got a nice write up in forbes!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/garystoller/2020/02/05/with-perfect-beer-in-mind-authors-brew-unique-beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 07, 2020, 02:05:57 pm
been rather happy with Lagunita's Cherry Jane (https://lagunitas.com/beer/cherry-jane).  nice cherry flavor, mild funk, a hint of tarness...

only downside is every time i pop a cap, i find myself muttering "i love you cherry jane" a la cypress hill: hits from the bong... annoying.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 16, 2020, 10:11:21 pm
Craft beer hater pulls gun on people outside Brooklyn's Other Half Brewing Company

https://nypost.com/2020/02/08/craft-beer-hater-pulls-gun-on-people-outside-brooklyns-other-half-brewing-company/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2020, 09:14:18 am
”collectible cans”

Is that really a thing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2020, 10:12:16 am
Drank the elusive Pliny the Younger this weekend... #relicOfThePast
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 17, 2020, 02:10:18 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2020, 09:14:18 am
”collectible cans”

Is that really a thing?

"hops hipsters"

Is that really a thing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 24, 2020, 04:23:38 pm
 :o

BeerAdvocate Purchased by Untappd's Ownership Group (https://www.foodandwine.com/news/untappd-purchases-beer-advocate)
Despite the deal, both communities will continue to be separate “for decades to come.”
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 26, 2020, 03:42:33 pm
Free case of beer...don’t say I never did anything for you

https://dve.iheart.com/content/2020-02-26-miller-lite-is-offering-everyone-a-free-case-of-beer-for-leap-day/?Keyid=socialflow&Sc=editorial&Pname=local_social&fbclid=IwAR2qEsbC_hcjhhq96MmseT6Ug0QoJ2ww4JGolUCFA2sIUgK-zMAHwQjwKDc
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 04:00:56 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 26, 2020, 03:42:33 pm
Free case of beer...don’t say I never did anything for you

https://dve.iheart.com/content/2020-02-26-miller-lite-is-offering-everyone-a-free-case-of-beer-for-leap-day/?Keyid=socialflow&Sc=editorial&Pname=local_social&fbclid=IwAR2qEsbC_hcjhhq96MmseT6Ug0QoJ2ww4JGolUCFA2sIUgK-zMAHwQjwKDc

Actual value: 27 cents.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 26, 2020, 05:00:05 pm
When it’s not raining Space will find a way to ☔️

I mean fuck you drive 500 miles to save $10
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 26, 2020, 05:53:10 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 26, 2020, 03:42:33 pm
Free case of beer...don’t say I never did anything for you

https://dve.iheart.com/content/2020-02-26-miller-lite-is-offering-everyone-a-free-case-of-beer-for-leap-day/?Keyid=socialflow&Sc=editorial&Pname=local_social&fbclid=IwAR2qEsbC_hcjhhq96MmseT6Ug0QoJ2ww4JGolUCFA2sIUgK-zMAHwQjwKDc

Someone's not happy with this news.

https://wgntv-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/wgntv.com/2020/02/26/milwaukee-police-responding-to-critical-incident-at-miller-coors-headquarters/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15827539583391&amp_ct=1582753960634&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwgntv.com%2F2020%2F02%2F26%2Fmilwaukee-police-responding-to-critical-incident-at-miller-coors-headquarters%2F
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 06:35:28 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 26, 2020, 05:00:05 pm
When it’s not raining Space will find a way to ☔️

I mean fuck you drive 500 miles to save $10

Give me an example or you're a liar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 06:42:18 pm
I like beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 26, 2020, 06:53:44 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 06:42:18 pm
I can't remember what the homebrewing thread is so I'll put this here.

Is that a hydrometer in your pocket or are you just happy to see me (https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=24518.60)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 26, 2020, 07:22:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 06:35:28 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 26, 2020, 05:00:05 pm
When it’s not raining Space will find a way to ☔️

I mean fuck you drive 500 miles to save $10

Give me an example or you're a liar.

Space, you seem edgy lately...is everything ok on the homefront (are you meeting expectations on chores?), Prospect of working for Trump for rest of your life got you down? If you need someone to talk to let me know

Funny when Sweetcell writes this stuff it seems genuine and when I do it comes off as an asshole...sorry
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 07:38:24 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 26, 2020, 07:22:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 06:35:28 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 26, 2020, 05:00:05 pm
When it’s not raining Space will find a way to ☔️

I mean fuck you drive 500 miles to save $10

Give me an example or you're a liar.

Space, you seem edgy lately...is everything ok on the homefront (are you meeting expectations on chores?), Prospect of working for Trump for rest of your life got you down? If you need someone to talk to let me know

Funny when Sweetcell writes this stuff it seems genuine and when I do it comes off as an asshole...sorry

I was just playing with you Hutch. I love you and everyone. All is good more or less. Yes, the prospect of many more years of Trump does suck dick.

I'm making pasta tonight and just popped a nice bottle of malbec, should be a good night in the homefront.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 27, 2020, 09:19:01 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 07:38:24 pm
I'm making pasta tonight and just popped a nice bottle of malbec, should be a good night in the homefront.
I hope that is American Malbec and not Argentinian. The tariff on South American wines totally throws off the Space ABV/cost ratio.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 27, 2020, 09:30:03 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 27, 2020, 09:19:01 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 07:38:24 pm
I'm making pasta tonight and just popped a nice bottle of malbec, should be a good night in the homefront.
I hope that is American Malbec and not Argentinian. The tariff on South American wines totally throws off the Space ABV/cost ratio.

Argentinian. I think it was $12.99 at Total Wine. Solid but unspectacular. Any American malbecs in particular you recommend? Am I a beer traitor for asking that on this thread?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 27, 2020, 10:04:25 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 27, 2020, 09:30:03 am
Am I a beer traitor for asking that on this thread?
Apperently all the norms we got used to for years are gone...so ask away
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 27, 2020, 11:27:59 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 27, 2020, 09:30:03 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 27, 2020, 09:19:01 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 07:38:24 pm
I'm making pasta tonight and just popped a nice bottle of malbec, should be a good night in the homefront.
I hope that is American Malbec and not Argentinian. The tariff on South American wines totally throws off the Space ABV/cost ratio.

Argentinian. I think it was $12.99 at Total Wine. Solid but unspectacular. Any American malbecs in particular you recommend? Am I a beer traitor for asking that on this thread?
To be honest, Malbec is one of my least favorite reds to drink (outside of a Bordeaux or other blend). I really don't think anywhere in America has ideal climate for single-varietal Malbec although I'm sure Central Coast Californians will take umbrage to that.

Come back when you have a Pinot, Syrah, or Grenache question, but I'm not our guy on this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 27, 2020, 02:49:46 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 27, 2020, 11:27:59 am
Pinot

Pinot's are for breakfast.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 27, 2020, 03:22:02 pm
Quote from: vansmack on February 27, 2020, 02:49:46 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 27, 2020, 11:27:59 am
Pinot

Pinot's are for breakfast.
Sounds like a fantastic breakfast!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 27, 2020, 03:45:41 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 27, 2020, 11:27:59 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 27, 2020, 09:30:03 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 27, 2020, 09:19:01 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 26, 2020, 07:38:24 pm
I'm making pasta tonight and just popped a nice bottle of malbec, should be a good night in the homefront.
I hope that is American Malbec and not Argentinian. The tariff on South American wines totally throws off the Space ABV/cost ratio.

Argentinian. I think it was $12.99 at Total Wine. Solid but unspectacular. Any American malbecs in particular you recommend? Am I a beer traitor for asking that on this thread?
To be honest, Malbec is one of my least favorite reds to drink (outside of a Bordeaux or other blend). I really don't think anywhere in America has ideal climate for single-varietal Malbec although I'm sure Central Coast Californians will take umbrage to that.

Come back when you have a Pinot, Syrah, or Grenache question, but I'm not our guy on this one.

I've always considered it a good value import (from Argentina, where the dollar goes far)...but what do I know.

My preference is for cabernet sauvignon and tempranillo. I couldn't even tell you what whites I like. Something oaky I guess.

I tried getting into wines, before I was into beer. Even took classes. Not that much of it stuck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 27, 2020, 04:42:39 pm
OMG Malbec is the best

Pair with a nice steak...


Heaven


Best value wine in US is Alamos Malbec at BJs...$6.99

Second best: Trapiche at BJs $9.19

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 01:29:25 pm
CNN International@cnni
38% of Americans wouldn't buy Corona beer "under any circumstances" because of the coronavirus, according to a recent survey.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2020, 01:42:34 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 27, 2020, 04:42:39 pm
OMG Malbec is the best

Pair with a nice steak...


Heaven
See, this is what everyone says, and I honestly believe the fact I don't eat meat must in someway contribute to why I don't care for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 28, 2020, 01:50:38 pm
Quote from: Side-hatchetations ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on February 28, 2020, 01:29:25 pm
CNN International@cnni
38% of Americans wouldn't buy Corona beer "under any circumstances" because of the coronavirus, according to a recent survey.

Confession: I drank approximately 300 ounces of Corona last week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 02:05:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 28, 2020, 01:50:38 pm
Quote from: Side-hatchetations ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on February 28, 2020, 01:29:25 pm
CNN International@cnni
38% of Americans wouldn't buy Corona beer "under any circumstances" because of the coronavirus, according to a recent survey.

Confession: I drank approximately 300 ounces of Corona last week.
you will be missed ...any epitaph you would like?  a place to send donations in lieu of Phish tickets?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 28, 2020, 02:16:10 pm
Quote from: Side-hatchetations ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on February 28, 2020, 02:05:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 28, 2020, 01:50:38 pm
Quote from: Side-hatchetations ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on February 28, 2020, 01:29:25 pm
CNN International@cnni
38% of Americans wouldn't buy Corona beer "under any circumstances" because of the coronavirus, according to a recent survey.

Confession: I drank approximately 300 ounces of Corona last week.
you will be missed ...any epitaph you would like?  a place to send donations in lieu of Phish tickets?

Mimi Fishman foundation please
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2020, 02:29:58 pm
Quote from: Side-hatchetations ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on February 28, 2020, 02:05:27 pm
you will be missed
Let's not just say things just to be saying them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 28, 2020, 02:30:34 pm
Quote from: Side-hatchetations ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on February 28, 2020, 01:29:25 pm
CNN International@cnni
38% of Americans wouldn't buy Corona beer "under any circumstances" because of the coronavirus, according to a recent survey.


I wonder what the numbers are like for Tsingtao?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 02:42:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 28, 2020, 02:16:10 pm
Mimi Fishman foundation please

Interesting...and an early clue of the Phish origin story!

For many years before the Foundation was formally organized, Mimi spent time speaking across the Nation to raise awareness about glaucoma. Diagnosed with this disease at a young age, Mimi was deeply committed to educating the public about the importance of early testing and treatment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 28, 2020, 03:05:22 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 28, 2020, 01:42:34 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 27, 2020, 04:42:39 pm
OMG Malbec is the best

Pair with a nice steak...


Heaven
See, this is what everyone says, and I honestly believe the fact I don't eat meat must in someway contribute to why I don't care for it.

Always pair steaks with a good Cab. Accept nothing else.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 03:27:40 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 28, 2020, 03:05:22 pm
Always pair steaks with a good Cab. Accept nothing else.
I know little about wine, this is what I thought was the proper pairing...beefy red with a steak
Malbec's while I think they are tasty, are pretty much a between a pino and a merlot
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 28, 2020, 04:17:36 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 28, 2020, 01:42:34 pm
Quote from: hutch on February 27, 2020, 04:42:39 pm
OMG Malbec is the best

Pair with a nice steak...


Heaven
See, this is what everyone says, and I honestly believe the fact I don't eat meat must in someway contribute to why I don't care for it.

It's tough pairing red wines with food when you don't eat meat. Same with some beers. When you see the suggested pairing and it says "game," you know you're going to have to be creative.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2020, 04:29:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 28, 2020, 04:17:36 pm
It's tough pairing red wines with food when you don't eat meat. Same with some beers. When you see the suggested pairing and it says "game," you know you're going to have to be creative.
Oh, it's not all that bad. I generally just. . .

(•_•)

( •_•)>⌐■-■

(⌐■_■)

. . . make a "game" of it.

[Alexa, play Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who.]
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2020, 05:55:12 pm
Quote from: Side-hatchetations ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on February 28, 2020, 03:27:40 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 28, 2020, 03:05:22 pm
Always pair steaks with a good Cab. Accept nothing else.
I know little about wine, this is what I thought was the proper pairing...beefy red with a steak
Malbec's while I think they are tasty, are pretty much a between a pino and a merlot

Between a pino and merlot?

I don’t think so

I can only speak based on my experience with Argentina where until recently all people ate was meat and Malbec was the preferred pairing although Cabernet is excellent too

It should be noted when I say Malbec I am not talking about California Malbec...it’s pretty different

But Malbec is a pretty intense tasting wine

Anyways your mileage may vary

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2020, 06:08:50 pm
Malbec is significantly bolder than both Pinot and Merlot. Not between the two at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 06:31:59 pm
in case you missed it...
Quote from: Side-hatchetations ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on February 28, 2020, 03:27:40 pm
I know little about wine
sorry for misleading those who come here for wine advice
Malbec
Somewhere between the muscle of a cab and the fruity softness of a merlot lies the malbec. It's the best of both worlds. (https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/red-wine-types-explained)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2020, 12:40:15 am
currently in the tampa bay area for a quick visit.  found time to sneak off to cigar city for a quick round before last call.  tried the 2019 hunahpu, a vanilla & nut imp stout, and a chocolate imp stout.  all were really good.  the fresh jai alai was delightful.  got a bottle of gin barrel aged blond ale to go, and it further cemented my opinion that i don't really like gin barrel aged anything.

next night i dragged folks to a small local beer fest by the gulf.  only really interesting thing i tasted there was a beer spiked with cannabis terpenes (https://www.moderncanna.com/cannabis-testing/terpene/brewers-enhance-flavor-by-adding-terpenes-to-beer/).  this beer smelled more like cannabis than actual cannabis... aroma was insane.  beer was damn solid, but i enjoyed smelling it more than drinking it.  i've been reading about terpenes but haven't come across them until today.  apparently spiking beer with terpines is a thing in florida (https://thetakeout.com/beer-of-the-week-sweetwaters-g13-ipa-isnt-just-for-sto-1829005731), even though it's caused issues with the feds (https://merryjane.com/news/feds-demand-that-florida-breweries-stop-making-beers-with-cannabis-terpenes) previously.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2020, 10:58:42 am
When in Tampa, go to Angry Chair!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 07, 2020, 11:11:28 am
What was the first beer sold when prohibition ended?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on March 07, 2020, 12:20:00 pm
Do any of y'all beer drinkers like mead?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 07, 2020, 12:22:33 pm
Quote from: challenged on March 07, 2020, 12:20:00 pm
Do any of y'all beer drinkers like mead?
I don’t
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 07, 2020, 12:23:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2020, 10:58:42 am
When in Tampa, go to Angry Chair!

And cycle.

Sweets seems to operate in beer year 2011.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 07, 2020, 12:23:54 pm
Quote from: challenged on March 07, 2020, 12:20:00 pm
Do any of y'all beer drinkers like mead?

Superstition is the only one I've kind of liked...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 07, 2020, 12:34:34 pm
Quote from: challenged on March 07, 2020, 12:20:00 pm
Do any of y'all beer drinkers like mead?
I don’t hate it but I’m not like buying more for later if I go to a meadery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2020, 02:24:32 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 07, 2020, 12:34:34 pm
Quote from: challenged on March 07, 2020, 12:20:00 pm
Do any of y'all beer drinkers like mead?
I don’t hate it but I’m not like buying more for later if I go to a meadery.

That's about right for me too. Same with cider.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2020, 03:07:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 07, 2020, 12:23:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2020, 10:58:42 am
When in Tampa, go to Angry Chair!

And cycle.

Sweets seems to operate in beer year 2011.

i was in town for less than 48 hours.  that i got any beer activity in at all was a minor miracle.  didn't have time to look this shit up, plus this scratched a nostalgic itch i've had for years (probably since 2011 ;D).  everything i had was delicious, and i'm not in it for the untappd checkins or the scene points... so i stand by my choices.  but thanks for the recs, i'll be sure to check those out next time i'm in tampa with a little more time and freedom!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2020, 03:09:06 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 07, 2020, 11:11:28 am
What was the first beer sold when prohibition ended?

Utica Club, per the googles (https://www.google.com/search?q=What+was+the+first+beer+sold+when+prohibition+ended%3F&oq=What+was+the+first+beer+sold+when+prohibition+ended%3F).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2020, 03:25:14 pm
Quote from: challenged on March 07, 2020, 12:20:00 pm
Do any of y'all beer drinkers like mead?

i love mead, can't be too sweet tho.  mead is an amazing delivery vehicle for secondary flavors.  i once had a margarita mead (lime and salt, aged in a tequila barrel) that was one of the best things i have ever tasted.

Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 07, 2020, 12:34:34 pm
I don’t hate it but I’m not like buying more for later if I go to a meadery.

an issue with mead is the cost: honey is a damn expensive primary ingredient.  a 500 ml bottle is often $20 or more, at that price it's an after-dinner digestif that you sip by the ounce.  hard to get into it in those quantities and/or at those prices (paging Space...). 

i'm sure y'all saw this coming from a mile away, but the way around this is making your own.  the above-mentioned margarita mead was served at a homebrewer's conference.  admittedly there is an investment to be made since practice is required, but for the price of 3 or 4 bottles you can make a 5 gallon batch.

or, you know, stick to beer ;D

Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2020, 02:24:32 pm
That's about right for me too. Same with cider.

yeah, i'm not excited about cider either.  i once had a high-gravity barrel-aged cider that was liquid gold, otherwise it's something i drink on occasion with my euro-friends.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 11:34:26 am
Thought this might interest Space...but I assume he's going to be in self quarntien
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/88107010_2619873848290198_7649649986140897280_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=b386c4&_nc_ohc=pMnxHk0VqsMAX9Ywmb3&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=43975d3507a755637081d7803d5338b0&oe=5E8F5483)
Join us Friday, March 13 for an exclusive Charles Towne Fermentory pop-up can release!

Can sales and special draft tappings begin at 4 pm!  Charles Towne Founder & Headbrewer Adam Goodwin will join us for a tasting beginning at 5:30 pm.

Charles Towne is bringing the heat with several beers that not only have never been in Virginia before, but have also never left the brewery before!  Come out, grab some 4-packs and draft, taste some delicious beer and hang out with Adam.

Four different beers will be available in package (pricing TBD):

- Telstar VI Double IPA with El Dorado & Zappa
- Mars Express Pale Ale with Motueka dry hop
- Seconds from Midnight sour with blueberries, passionfruit, boysenberries and plums
- Yacht Party American Lager

Draft features including Nigori Biru a Koji saison brewed with koji rice, kaffir lime leaves, pink peppercorns, and coriander plus some fresh Sungazer IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on March 12, 2020, 11:42:44 am
I asked about the Mead because folks I know are opening a Meadery into this pandemic....

http://towncourier.com/clear-skies-ahead-for-meadery-to-open-in-kentlands-this-fall/?fbclid=IwAR2-5q7embNWncf4z50y5NijbwPIAiCnE4RYxoo_7mWakI9jmPhbg7Cn0mw     (http://towncourier.com/clear-skies-ahead-for-meadery-to-open-in-kentlands-this-fall/?fbclid=IwAR2-5q7embNWncf4z50y5NijbwPIAiCnE4RYxoo_7mWakI9jmPhbg7Cn0mw) 

Come on Out!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 05:40:09 pm
this is interesting and think more craft breweries should do it...like now

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETBOcbbWAAInq1e?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:18:01 pm
Downtown Crown offering online ordering/roadside pick up for Other Half cans!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 05:39:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:18:01 pm
Downtown Crown offering online ordering/roadside pick up for Other Half cans!

My IPA supply hasn't been this low in a long time. Debating whether to make the drive to MD before it all gets shut down. There's also a Veil can drop Saturday at Craft Beer Cellar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:51:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 05:39:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:18:01 pm
Downtown Crown offering online ordering/roadside pick up for Other Half cans!

My IPA supply hasn't been this low in a long time. Debating whether to make the drive to MD before it all gets shut down. There's also a Veil can drop Saturday at Craft Beer Cellar.

Other Half > Veil

Also, can't imagine that drop being organized in the safe manner DTC is doing this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 06:00:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:51:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 05:39:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:18:01 pm
Downtown Crown offering online ordering/roadside pick up for Other Half cans!

My IPA supply hasn't been this low in a long time. Debating whether to make the drive to MD before it all gets shut down. There's also a Veil can drop Saturday at Craft Beer Cellar.

Other Half > Veil

Also, can't imagine that drop being organized in the safe manner DTC is doing this.

ICYMI: we have partnered with Bevv.com to deliver beverages to your door throughout the district. We have ~100 beers, ciders, meads and now spirits available and try to add more each day. Place your order at: craftbeercellardc.bevv.com
We are also offering curbside pickup. So if you live nearby or don’t see something on the Bevv website, we’ll take your order over the phone and pack it up. Then just call us when you pull up along 3rd Street and we’ll bring it to your car!


As of this moment, we plan to continue with The Veil Brewing Co. Can Sale Pop Up this Saturday, March 21 at 10am. We’ll be limiting the number of people in store, and asking you to spread out in line. Heck, let’s go for the Guinness Record for longest (albeit most spread out) beer line.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2020, 06:06:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 06:00:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:51:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 05:39:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:18:01 pm
Downtown Crown offering online ordering/roadside pick up for Other Half cans!

My IPA supply hasn't been this low in a long time. Debating whether to make the drive to MD before it all gets shut down. There's also a Veil can drop Saturday at Craft Beer Cellar.

Other Half > Veil

Also, can't imagine that drop being organized in the safe manner DTC is doing this.

ICYMI: we have partnered with Bevv.com to deliver beverages to your door throughout the district. We have ~100 beers, ciders, meads and now spirits available and try to add more each day. Place your order at: craftbeercellardc.bevv.com
We are also offering curbside pickup. So if you live nearby or don’t see something on the Bevv website, we’ll take your order over the phone and pack it up. Then just call us when you pull up along 3rd Street and we’ll bring it to your car!


As of this moment, we plan to continue with The Veil Brewing Co. Can Sale Pop Up this Saturday, March 21 at 10am. We’ll be limiting the number of people in store, and asking you to spread out in line. Heck, let’s go for the Guinness Record for longest (albeit most spread out) beer line.

Well, thanks for proving me right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 06:34:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2020, 06:06:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 06:00:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:51:12 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 05:39:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 17, 2020, 05:18:01 pm
Downtown Crown offering online ordering/roadside pick up for Other Half cans!

My IPA supply hasn't been this low in a long time. Debating whether to make the drive to MD before it all gets shut down. There's also a Veil can drop Saturday at Craft Beer Cellar.

Other Half > Veil

Also, can't imagine that drop being organized in the safe manner DTC is doing this.

ICYMI: we have partnered with Bevv.com to deliver beverages to your door throughout the district. We have ~100 beers, ciders, meads and now spirits available and try to add more each day. Place your order at: craftbeercellardc.bevv.com
We are also offering curbside pickup. So if you live nearby or don’t see something on the Bevv website, we’ll take your order over the phone and pack it up. Then just call us when you pull up along 3rd Street and we’ll bring it to your car!


As of this moment, we plan to continue with The Veil Brewing Co. Can Sale Pop Up this Saturday, March 21 at 10am. We’ll be limiting the number of people in store, and asking you to spread out in line. Heck, let’s go for the Guinness Record for longest (albeit most spread out) beer line.

Well, thanks for proving me right.

Yeah, I stood in one line this week, I won't be standing in line for beer. Though if i go into the office on Sunday, i might call CBC with an order and have them load it to me at the curb.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 01:27:47 pm
good news space...

aslinbeerco Aslin Delivery Team Assemble!!! We’re gonna give this a go!
Starting tonight at 6pm EST, we will be accepting orders for a delivery service through our website (link in the bio) for the immediate area (only in Northern Virginia, unfortunately we cannot deliver to DC or MD). We are making these efforts to keep our team together, and provide what we can at this time. As always your generosity for our staff is greatly appreciated, now more than ever. .
Here's the details, please read carefully:
.
A minimum for an order will be $75 with a $10 delivery fee. .
Delivery area: Arlington, Alexandria, Fairfax, Loudoun and Prince William Counties
.
Order Times/Deliveries: All orders placed before Midnight EST will be delivered the next day. Deliveries will start at Noon and go until 7pm. Orders placed after Midnight will be delivered the following day with some possible exceptions if time allows. .
Confirmation: a phone call will be made once your order is out for delivery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 18, 2020, 01:29:10 pm
Astrolab is open for pickup, and Denizen's is doing delivery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 18, 2020, 01:33:35 pm
Quote from: 10 out of 10 hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 01:27:47 pm
good news space...

aslinbeerco Aslin Delivery Team Assemble!!! We’re gonna give this a go!
Starting tonight at 6pm EST, we will be accepting orders for a delivery service through our website (link in the bio) for the immediate area (only in Northern Virginia, unfortunately we cannot deliver to DC or MD). We are making these efforts to keep our team together, and provide what we can at this time. As always your generosity for our staff is greatly appreciated, now more than ever. .
Here's the details, please read carefully:
.
A minimum for an order will be $75 with a $10 delivery fee. .
Delivery area: Arlington, Alexandria, Fairfax, Loudoun and Prince William Counties
.
Order Times/Deliveries: All orders placed before Midnight EST will be delivered the next day. Deliveries will start at Noon and go until 7pm. Orders placed after Midnight will be delivered the following day with some possible exceptions if time allows. .
Confirmation: a phone call will be made once your order is out for delivery.

Hilarious you think space would pay $10 for someone to deliver him beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 01:36:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2020, 01:33:35 pm
Hilarious you think space would pay $10 for someone to deliver him beer.
welp there is that and I'm sure it will weigh heavily in his decision
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 01:41:02 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2020, 01:33:35 pm
Quote from: 10 out of 10 hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 01:27:47 pm
good news space...

aslinbeerco Aslin Delivery Team Assemble!!! We’re gonna give this a go!
Starting tonight at 6pm EST, we will be accepting orders for a delivery service through our website (link in the bio) for the immediate area (only in Northern Virginia, unfortunately we cannot deliver to DC or MD). We are making these efforts to keep our team together, and provide what we can at this time. As always your generosity for our staff is greatly appreciated, now more than ever. .
Here's the details, please read carefully:
.
A minimum for an order will be $75 with a $10 delivery fee. .
Delivery area: Arlington, Alexandria, Fairfax, Loudoun and Prince William Counties
.
Order Times/Deliveries: All orders placed before Midnight EST will be delivered the next day. Deliveries will start at Noon and go until 7pm. Orders placed after Midnight will be delivered the following day with some possible exceptions if time allows. .
Confirmation: a phone call will be made once your order is out for delivery.

Hilarious you think space would pay $10 for someone to deliver him beer.

I think the real dealbreaker is you have to spend $75. Who wants $75 in Aslin beer when you can get OH and the Veil for starters.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 01:44:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 01:41:02 pm
I think the real dealbreaker is you have to spend $75. Who wants $75 in Aslin beer when you can get OH and the Veil for starters.
well there is that too...
but $75 really only gets you about 3 x 4-packs of 16oz cans

but can you actually get OH and Veil delivered?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 02:03:20 pm
Quote from: 10 out of 10 hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 01:44:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 01:41:02 pm
I think the real dealbreaker is you have to spend $75. Who wants $75 in Aslin beer when you can get OH and the Veil for starters.
well there is that too...
but $75 really only gets you about 3 x 4-packs of 16oz cans

but can you actually get OH and Veil delivered?

You can't.

I'll leave the Aslin deliveries for the high risk population.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 18, 2020, 02:07:15 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 02:03:20 pm
Quote from: 10 out of 10 hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 01:44:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 01:41:02 pm
I think the real dealbreaker is you have to spend $75. Who wants $75 in Aslin beer when you can get OH and the Veil for starters.
well there is that too...
but $75 really only gets you about 3 x 4-packs of 16oz cans

but can you actually get OH and Veil delivered?

You can't.

I'll leave the Aslin deliveries for the high risk population.

Diabetic neck beards?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 18, 2020, 02:21:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 18, 2020, 02:07:15 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 02:03:20 pm
Quote from: 10 out of 10 hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 01:44:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 01:41:02 pm
I think the real dealbreaker is you have to spend $75. Who wants $75 in Aslin beer when you can get OH and the Veil for starters.
well there is that too...
but $75 really only gets you about 3 x 4-packs of 16oz cans

but can you actually get OH and Veil delivered?

You can't.

I'll leave the Aslin deliveries for the high risk population.

Diabetic neck beards?
LOL
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2020, 09:15:45 am
Bluejacket is getting on board and has heard Space's concern at miniums and delivery fees
District only

Bluejacket is now delivering cans every day from 11 am to 9 pm. Order minimum is $30, and there is a $3 delivery fee; delivery is available within a 5 mile radius of the brewery (within the District, only). Social distancing, now with great beer.

To order, just give Bluejacket a call at (202) 524-4862 or send an email to info@bluejacketdc.com and we’ll get started on fulfilling your order. And stay tuned for online ordering in the next couple of days!

Bluejacket is practicing an abundance of caution when packing and delivering your cans, as the health and safety of our team and customers is our utmost priority:
...
All orders are prepared and packaged by a staff member who has just washed and sanitized their hands.

Delivery drivers will be stocked with gloves, and a new pair will be put on when bringing you your order.

Delivery drivers will bring the order to your door with a receipt in a plastic sleeve.

Your order will be left on the ground with the receipt sleeve and pen. Please just sign the receipt and put it back in the sleeve.

Driver will sanitize the sleeve in the vehicle and dispose of gloves.
...
The can delivery service is 100% operated by the Bluejacket team; we’re grateful to be able to continue to employ Bluejacket staff to get our craft beer delivered to your doorstep!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2020, 10:13:22 am
Can confirm officially that other half's "small" series are my favorite beers of theirs.

Everything in that 6ish abv range, juicy, hoppy, and delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 19, 2020, 10:29:42 am
Thanks Yads.  Just ordered some Go With the Flow for pickup.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 19, 2020, 11:15:37 am
Yup. OH pick up was a godsend yesterday. Wiping down all the cans kinda sucked but that’s where we are.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2020, 11:30:21 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 19, 2020, 11:15:37 am
Yup. OH pick up was a godsend yesterday. Wiping down all the cans kinda sucked but that’s where we are.


Hmmm.   Didn't think of or do that. The delivery guy had gloves on.


Are you wiping down all groceries purchased?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2020, 02:46:45 pm
from Sapwood Cellars:

Beer at our tasting room is currently only available in pre-filled growlers. Put your order in through our website the night before or the day of by 3:30 PM and come pick-up it up between 4-6 PM. Currently we aren't offering growler refills or exchanges, but we reduced the price of all beers by $2 to compensate. Once you've had a pint, and this all blows over we'll figure out if we can do any sort of buy-back.
32 oz pre-filled growlers (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/pre-filled-32-oz-growlers/)
64 oz pre-filled growlers (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/pre-filled-64-oz-growlers/)

We also have bottles of our gin-barrel saison, 365.24, (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/365-24-bottles-pickup/) available online or walk-in. If you are interested in supporting us, but can't make it in now we have gift cards (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/sapwood-cellars-gift-card/) available too.

We'll be announcing a bottle release for There Are No Edges (our 10% ABV Port-barrel-aged sour red) soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 11:20:17 pm
walky will appreciate this
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/91019504_10159469941498222_3006424790203367424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=QOuzxA1vADMAX_0pnMC&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=30c17364f975b2bd256b518dfbb42f52&oe=5EA11A52)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2020, 12:20:01 am
this coronavirus shit just got real: my new'ish local brewery (http://www.volitionbrewing.com/) is closing "for two weeks", then they'll "reevaluate".  it's a nice little spot, the beers are really good, and it's become the preferred hangout spot in town.  like other businesses they were doing take-out only ("curbside crowlers") for the past week or so.  they said they're closing out of concern for the community and their staff, but i wonder if they were running out of cans to fill.  dunno about the DMV, but over here breweries are considered "essential" so they had permission to stay open if they want to/could.

darn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 08:22:39 am
I know a bunch of the local breweries are doing to-go crowlers and deliveries
I think in DC liquor stores made the list as essential businesses
Personally working through my stash, but won't make it through the weekend it's looking like
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2020, 01:43:26 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 27, 2020, 12:20:01 am
i wonder if they were running out of cans to fill. 

"The unexpected shift in operations created a bottleneck in the supply chain for to-go packaging. Crowlers, the large aluminum cans that can typically hold two pints, are on back order."
(from American craft brewers were already in trouble. Then came coronavirus (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/business/craft-brewers-coronavirus-closures-layoffs/index.html))
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2020, 01:47:24 am
* * * value alert for Space * * *

Pizza Paradiso: in addition to delivery and take-out, they are also selling carry out beer (30% off restaurant price) and carry out wine (50% off restaurant price).  i wonder how they package it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 30, 2020, 03:39:25 pm
Veil shipping cases to DV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 30, 2020, 05:57:52 pm
Apologies. DV?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 30, 2020, 06:00:04 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 30, 2020, 05:57:52 pm
Apologies. DV?

District and Virginia.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 30, 2020, 08:26:34 pm
Sick of drinking beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 30, 2020, 08:54:00 pm
Yeah, I can't do it every night, either.

Drank wine on Sunday. Had some rye Saturday. Made cocktails Friday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 30, 2020, 10:42:34 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 30, 2020, 08:26:34 pm
Sick of drinking beer

Same. My fingers are going to look like space's by the end of this thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 30, 2020, 11:52:08 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 30, 2020, 08:54:00 pm
Yeah, I can't do it every night, either.

Drank wine on Sunday. Had some rye Saturday. Made cocktails Friday.

worthy of POTW consideration.

Quote from: Yada on March 30, 2020, 10:42:34 pm
Same. My fingers are going to look like space's by the end of this thing.

sorry, don't get it... a little help?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2020, 08:15:53 am
Quote from: Yada on March 30, 2020, 03:39:25 pm
Veil shipping cases to DV.

Do you know what the shipping price is? Is there a minimum order size? Weird that there would be a two case maximum order.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2020, 08:51:51 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 31, 2020, 08:15:53 am
Quote from: Yada on March 30, 2020, 03:39:25 pm
Veil shipping cases to DV.

Do you know what the shipping price is? Is there a minimum order size? Weird that there would be a two case maximum order.

All of that info was posted yesterday before they ran out of shipping supplies, but I didn't pay too much attention, because well... other half.

I *think* it was a flat fee of $16 with a minimum order of a case.

I'm assuming they won't ship more than 48 cans due to misc. booze laws and weight... Two cases is a a 50+ pound box.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2020, 01:47:31 pm
Big news from Union Craft Brewing.

https://www.unioncraftbrewing.com/for-immediate-release/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on April 01, 2020, 02:01:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 01, 2020, 01:47:31 pm
Big news from Union Craft Brewing.

https://www.unioncraftbrewing.com/for-immediate-release/



someone's engaged in some April foolery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2020, 03:55:09 pm
The post, now seen by zero people, reads:
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2020, 07:28:29 pm
Maryland gets all the good beer again. Downtown Crown.

Fourscore Beer Co, Other Half, Triple Crossing, and Aslin Drops! DTC Online Ordering! Curbside Pickup! New Arrivals!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 10:10:16 am
Might need to head over there again.

I know the beer geeks don’t care but I think it’s important for people to support their local breweries. I bought cans from Waredaca yesterday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2020, 10:11:19 am
Yes!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 02, 2020, 10:29:36 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 10:10:16 am
Might need to head over there again.

I know the beer geeks don’t care but I think it’s important for people to support their local breweries. I bought cans from Waredaca yesterday.

Check the $8 32oz crowlers at Brew Belly too.  Or get your growler sanitized and filled.  Grab a cheesesteak while you're there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 02, 2020, 10:30:47 am
Quote from: shemptiness on April 02, 2020, 10:29:36 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 10:10:16 am
Might need to head over there again.

I know the beer geeks don’t care but I think it’s important for people to support their local breweries. I bought cans from Waredaca yesterday.

Check the $8 32oz crowlers at Brew Belly too.  Or get your growler sanitized and filled.  Grab a cheesesteak while you're there.

Those cheese steaks are fire.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2020, 10:31:11 am
Pick up some Covid19 too!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 10:33:01 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 10:10:16 am
Might need to head over there again.

I know the beer geeks don’t care but I think it’s important for people to support their local breweries. I bought cans from Waredaca yesterday.

Aslin *is* my local brewery. And Downtown Crown is a local business (for Marylander's). So I'm good.

Looking forward to sitting outside and drinking a beer at Waredeca again someday. Hope they pull through this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 11:02:06 am
Quote from: shemptiness on April 02, 2020, 10:29:36 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 10:10:16 am
Might need to head over there again.

I know the beer geeks don’t care but I think it’s important for people to support their local breweries. I bought cans from Waredaca yesterday.

Check the $8 32oz crowlers at Brew Belly too.  Or get your growler sanitized and filled.  Grab a cheesesteak while you're there.

Good idea. It’s all MD beer there usually.

They’re filling growlers??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 11:05:45 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 10:33:01 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 10:10:16 am
Might need to head over there again.

I know the beer geeks don’t care but I think it’s important for people to support their local breweries. I bought cans from Waredaca yesterday.

Aslin *is* my local brewery. And Downtown Crown is a local business (for Marylander's). So I'm good.

Looking forward to sitting outside and drinking a beer at Waredeca again someday. Hope they pull through this.

Not knocking DTC. I am however concerned about Waredaca, Saints Row, Elder Pine and even Sapwood. It would suck to see any of them not pull through this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 02, 2020, 11:15:05 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 11:02:06 am
Quote from: shemptiness on April 02, 2020, 10:29:36 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 10:10:16 am
Might need to head over there again.

I know the beer geeks don’t care but I think it’s important for people to support their local breweries. I bought cans from Waredaca yesterday.

Check the $8 32oz crowlers at Brew Belly too.  Or get your growler sanitized and filled.  Grab a cheesesteak while you're there.

Good idea. It’s all MD beer there usually.

They’re filling growlers??

They just resumed growler filling this week.  Adding the sanitizing step I take it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 02, 2020, 11:27:34 am
The only good thing is I can get Aslin at Perfect Pour. Call in my order and they bring it to my trunk. Wipe all the cans down with alcohol wipes when I get home. Trying to only buy local brews like Aslin, Peabody Heights, Black Flag, Hysteria, Monument City, and a few NY small ones I like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 02, 2020, 11:27:54 am
The only good thing about this whole mess...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 02, 2020, 11:28:39 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 11:05:45 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 10:33:01 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 10:10:16 am
Might need to head over there again.

I know the beer geeks don’t care but I think it’s important for people to support their local breweries. I bought cans from Waredaca yesterday.

Aslin *is* my local brewery. And Downtown Crown is a local business (for Marylander's). So I'm good.

Looking forward to sitting outside and drinking a beer at Waredeca again someday. Hope they pull through this.

Not knocking DTC. I am however concerned about Waredaca, Saints Row, Elder Pine and even Sapwood. It would suck to see any of them not pull through this.

Sapwood seems to be doing a good business selling take out beers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 12:01:13 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 11:05:45 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 10:33:01 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 10:10:16 am
Might need to head over there again.

I know the beer geeks don’t care but I think it’s important for people to support their local breweries. I bought cans from Waredaca yesterday.

Aslin *is* my local brewery. And Downtown Crown is a local business (for Marylander's). So I'm good.

Looking forward to sitting outside and drinking a beer at Waredeca again someday. Hope they pull through this.

Not knocking DTC. I am however concerned about Waredaca, Saints Row, Elder Pine and even Sapwood. It would suck to see any of them not pull through this.

Aren't the craft breweries with the best beer most likely to survive? Maybe that's not the criteria in these abnormal times? I mean, Waredeca is a fun place to hang out but their beer isn't very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2020, 01:12:17 pm
Yeah, I'm not sure quality is the only measure by which places will survive at this point.

Waredaca's beers are hit or miss but there are a few seasonals I genuinely enjoy. I like them better than Brookeville, who are technically my local brewery.  Though their spot is nice, too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 02, 2020, 01:31:21 pm
Yeah... Don't think quality is going to save anyone during this mess.

Look at places like aslin or veil who to most people have better quality beer than say, Waredaca... However, both of these places have expanded ridiculously, have dozens if not 100s of employees and at this point, can't giveaway their beer.

No one is safe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 02, 2020, 06:29:47 pm
I've never had Other Half. Is it any good?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 06:59:48 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on April 02, 2020, 06:29:47 pm
I've never had Other Half. Is it any good?

Yes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 02, 2020, 07:15:52 pm
Cool. I just picked some up from that place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 06, 2020, 01:25:03 pm
New app connects beer consumers directly to breweries (https://marylandbeer.org/biermi-new-app-connects-beer-consumers-directly-to-breweries/?fbclid=IwAR3DckMUv5_LLTOmZCi0nudfGPChxHqkMMCCfw-5CLwXjVKaCNw_0LEFISo)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 06, 2020, 02:10:14 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 06, 2020, 01:25:03 pm
New app connects beer consumers directly to breweries (https://marylandbeer.org/biermi-new-app-connects-beer-consumers-directly-to-breweries/?fbclid=IwAR3DckMUv5_LLTOmZCi0nudfGPChxHqkMMCCfw-5CLwXjVKaCNw_0LEFISo)
I hate to be pedantic -- oh, who am I kidding, I enjoy it -- but this app is a middle-man marketplace between consumers and breweries. It is the very opposite of being connected directly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2020, 04:55:21 pm
'round these parts, beer consumption is way up.  breweries are considered "essential" by WA state so they're pumping the beer out.

so, a small silver lining of this pandemic is that the beer has never been fresher.  i've consistently been getting Freemont and Georgetown (makers of Bodhizafa) that is 2 days old in my local grocery store. so i've got that going for me, which is nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2020, 06:10:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 06, 2020, 04:55:21 pm
'round these parts, beer consumption is way up.  breweries are considered "essential" by WA state so they're pumping the beer out.

so, a small silver lining of this pandemic is that the beer has never been fresher.  i've consistently been getting Freemont and Georgetown (makers of Bodhizafa) that is 2 days old in my local grocery store. so i've got that going for me, which is nice.

Confession: I've gained 8lbs since 3/14
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2020, 07:19:30 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 06, 2020, 06:10:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 06, 2020, 04:55:21 pm
'round these parts, beer consumption is way up.  breweries are considered "essential" by WA state so they're pumping the beer out.

so, a small silver lining of this pandemic is that the beer has never been fresher.  i've consistently been getting Freemont and Georgetown (makers of Bodhizafa) that is 2 days old in my local grocery store. so i've got that going for me, which is nice.

Confession: I've gained 8lbs since 3/14

the batteries in our bathroom scale died a few weeks ago and i have consciously avoided replacing them.  i'm afraid of what i'll learn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 08, 2020, 09:20:58 pm
I got some Soaking the Dishes from Aslin. Must be skunked or something, cause blargh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on April 08, 2020, 09:29:22 pm
Pen Druid, the greatest brewery ever, is now delivering,  from Richmond to DC.

The, fucking, end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2020, 09:42:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 06, 2020, 06:10:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 06, 2020, 04:55:21 pm
'round these parts, beer consumption is way up.  breweries are considered "essential" by WA state so they're pumping the beer out.

so, a small silver lining of this pandemic is that the beer has never been fresher.  i've consistently been getting Freemont and Georgetown (makers of Bodhizafa) that is 2 days old in my local grocery store. so i've got that going for me, which is nice.

Confession: I've gained 8lbs since 3/14

I've lost 4 lbs. No commute equals longer dog walks, family bike rides, and more time to work out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2020, 09:42:59 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on April 08, 2020, 09:20:58 pm
I got some Soaking the Dishes from Aslin. Must be skunked or something, cause blargh.

Seems like their beers have been pretty hit and miss since they moved to Alexandria.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 08, 2020, 09:43:09 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on April 08, 2020, 09:20:58 pm
I got some Soaking the Dishes from Aslin. Must be skunked or something, cause blargh.

Haven't had it, but their beers haven't aged well. No pun intended.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 13, 2020, 01:04:21 am
here's a list of DC/MD/VA breweries and beer-focused bars/restaurants who are doing delivery and/or take-out (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1svwHhtucm2Zbea6DiH-S34fdmErkG5Djj6PFewxk6-w/edit?usp=sharing), courtesy of the DC Homebrewers club.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 14, 2020, 03:51:30 pm
Head to Veil social media outlets for lolz. Not sure who's dumber, the people that showed up or Veil themselves.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 15, 2020, 12:35:11 pm
Saw this coming a mile away.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_Af-azD5eh/?igshid=1gfq1j9t6kie3
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 12:55:59 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 15, 2020, 12:35:11 pm
Saw this coming a mile away.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_Af-azD5eh/?igshid=1gfq1j9t6kie3
this is easier to get to what you need  https://neighborhoodprovisions.menu/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 03:50:13 pm
DCbeer is doing a good job keeping this up to date
https://dcbeer.com/2020/04/09/live-updates-coronavirus-closings/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 03:54:11 pm
I found the perfect beer in this lockdown for a frequent poster here
(https://untappd.akamaized.net/site/beer_logos_hd/beer-2922593_0a553_hd.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2020, 06:09:29 pm
Quote from: can survive 10 wks on $1200 ılıl|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on April 15, 2020, 03:54:11 pm
I found the perfect beer in this lockdown for a frequent poster here
(https://untappd.akamaized.net/site/beer_logos_hd/beer-2922593_0a553_hd.jpeg)

even free, i wouldn't want any.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 10:54:43 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 15, 2020, 06:09:29 pm
Quote from: can survive 10 wks on $1200 ılıl|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on April 15, 2020, 03:54:11 pm
I found the perfect beer in this lockdown for a frequent poster

even free, i wouldn't want any.
Pourquoi?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 16, 2020, 09:55:31 am
Just give me this one instead.

(https://www.mybeercollectibles.com/uploads/cache/Screenshot2019-04-27at72635PM-500x500-crop.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2020, 12:44:41 pm
Quote from: can survive 10 wks on $1200 ılıl|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on April 15, 2020, 10:54:43 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 15, 2020, 06:09:29 pm
Quote from: can survive 10 wks on $1200 ılıl|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on April 15, 2020, 03:54:11 pm
I found the perfect beer in this lockdown for a frequent poster

even free, i wouldn't want any.
Pourquoi?

i was talking about Space, not the beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 16, 2020, 01:33:56 pm
Treehouse Quarantine Porch Bomb.


(https://i.ibb.co/VLHQKC7/th.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2020, 01:41:40 pm
dude... call your insurance agent, the whole front of your house is a write-off.

nice haul.  must have a good trading partner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 16, 2020, 02:02:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 16, 2020, 01:41:40 pm
dude... call your insurance agent, the whole front of your house is a write-off.

nice haul.  must have a good trading partner.

Just your friendly neighborhood Phish fan beering it forward.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 17, 2020, 10:09:41 am
https://coloradosun.com/2020/04/17/colorado-craft-breweries-social-distancing-coronavirus/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 17, 2020, 10:19:02 am
Quote from: Yada on April 17, 2020, 10:09:41 am
https://coloradosun.com/2020/04/17/colorado-craft-breweries-social-distancing-coronavirus/

one forecast suggests 60% of CO breweries won’t make it to June
YOWZA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 17, 2020, 10:27:53 am
Well it won’t be Yada’s fault
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 17, 2020, 10:34:50 am
Time to start packaging and distributing your mediocre beer instead of selling $8 pints at your taproom.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 17, 2020, 10:35:00 am
Quote from: hutch on April 17, 2020, 10:27:53 am
Well it won’t be Yada’s fault

Can confirm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 17, 2020, 11:58:14 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 17, 2020, 10:34:50 am
Time to start packaging and distributing your mediocre beer instead of selling $8 pints at your taproom.

the inability to sell pints at $8 (or whatever their prices are) is exactly why so many craft breweries are going to fail.  the margin on taproom sales is 4-5 times higher.  beer production is all about volume, and if you don't have volume (AKA small local breweries) the only way to remain viable is to get more $ per ounce of beer sold.  switching to packaging all their output isn't sustainable, given how much less they make.   those businesses are build around the taproom, take away the taproom and it all falls apart...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 18, 2020, 11:51:33 am
Quote from: sweetcell on April 17, 2020, 11:58:14 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 17, 2020, 10:34:50 am
Time to start packaging and distributing your mediocre beer instead of selling $8 pints at your taproom.

the inability to sell pints at $8 (or whatever their prices are) is exactly why so many craft breweries are going to fail.  the margin on taproom sales is 4-5 times higher.  beer production is all about volume, and if you don't have volume (AKA small local breweries) the only way to remain viable is to get more $ per ounce of beer sold.  switching to packaging all their output isn't sustainable, given how much less they make.   those businesses are build around the taproom, take away the taproom and it all falls apart...

Astrolab has done well with transition:

https://www.facebook.com/1562515340739600/posts/2648657738792016/?substory_index=0
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on April 19, 2020, 09:11:42 pm
Cascade's bourbonic plague . . . might be, outside of wicked weed's black angel, one the best sour's I have ever had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2020, 10:27:38 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on April 19, 2020, 09:11:42 pm
Cascade's bourbonic plague . . . might be, outside of wicked weed's black angel, one the best sour's I have ever had.
quite the perfectly named beverage for a pandemic
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2020, 07:04:02 am
Could have gone in the just cancelled/postponed thread:

Germany cancels Oktoberfest beer festival due to coronavirus (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-oktoberfest/german-oktoberfest-cancelled-due-to-coronavirus-idUSKBN2230RY)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 21, 2020, 03:32:26 pm
https://equilibriumbreweryshippingtowashingtondc.square.site/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 21, 2020, 03:48:10 pm
(https://patch.com/img/cdn20/users/23121104/20200421/124332/styles/patch_image/public/ewipufbxgaaokxa___21124109041.jpg?width=705)

Beer truck overturns in Aspen Hill (https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/beer-truck-overturns-aspen-hill-injuring-two-officials)

Your basic Corona, Tecate and Heineken.  No big loss, I guess.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 21, 2020, 04:21:13 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 21, 2020, 03:48:10 pm
(https://patch.com/img/cdn20/users/23121104/20200421/124332/styles/patch_image/public/ewipufbxgaaokxa___21124109041.jpg?width=705)

Beer truck overturns in Aspen Hill (https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/beer-truck-overturns-aspen-hill-injuring-two-officials)

Your basic Corona, Tecate and Heineken.  No big loss, I guess.
#AllBeersMatter
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2020, 04:23:25 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 21, 2020, 04:21:13 pm
#AllBeersMatter

I wept.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2020, 04:42:18 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 21, 2020, 03:48:10 pm
Your basic Corona, Tecate and Heineken.  No big loss, I guess.
I see a few yuengling in there too

Also I think that a lot of this stuff could be salvaged...hope they let the fire/police guys pick through to get the ones that were still viable
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2020, 07:32:46 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 21, 2020, 03:48:10 pm
Your basic Corona, Tecate and Heineken. 

WHAT DOES A BUD LIGHT HAVE TO DO TO GET NOTICED AROUND HERE?!?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 21, 2020, 09:02:00 pm
My old stomping grounds. That’s exactly the garbage we drank too. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 21, 2020, 09:47:24 pm
Oh yahhhh


(https://i.ibb.co/Mpxbdhg/4773-E20-F-5556-45-E5-A43-E-AAEBC60-A627-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/K7pYnG5)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 10:05:04 am
Hey Yada (or anybody else)...can you put in an order to DTC on a Wed and pick up on a Sat?

Anybody have an opinion on DDH Vapor Ringz vs. DDH Mylar Bags vs DDH Small Mosaic Everything?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 22, 2020, 10:13:50 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 10:05:04 am
Hey Yada (or anybody else)...can you put in an order to DTC on a Wed and pick up on a Sat?

Anybody have an opinion on DDH Vapor Ringz vs. DDH Mylar Bags vs DDH Small Mosaic Everything?

Yes, pick up is fine whenever.

The DDH Mylar from this past week is my favorite beer I've had of theirs... However, the "small" series is my YSAO in all aspects as it's low ABV and delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2020, 12:19:35 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2020, 10:13:50 am
However, the "small" series is my YSAO in all aspects as it's low ABV and delicious.

ok, fine, i'll bite: YSAO?


perhaps YSOA?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 22, 2020, 12:22:27 pm
YUP
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 22, 2020, 12:22:42 pm
YMMV
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 22, 2020, 12:22:58 pm
YIKES
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 22, 2020, 12:25:58 pm
OMG WTF LMAO
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 22, 2020, 12:30:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2020, 10:13:50 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 10:05:04 am
Hey Yada (or anybody else)...can you put in an order to DTC on a Wed and pick up on a Sat?

Anybody have an opinion on DDH Vapor Ringz vs. DDH Mylar Bags vs DDH Small Mosaic Everything?

The DDH Mylar from this past week is my favorite beer I've had of theirs...



My order is ready for pickup.  Thanks for the recommendation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2020, 12:47:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2020, 12:19:35 pm
ok, fine, i'll bite: YSAO?
Yada Says ABV is Overated
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 12:53:37 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on April 22, 2020, 12:30:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2020, 10:13:50 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 10:05:04 am
Hey Yada (or anybody else)...can you put in an order to DTC on a Wed and pick up on a Sat?

Anybody have an opinion on DDH Vapor Ringz vs. DDH Mylar Bags vs DDH Small Mosaic Everything?

The DDH Mylar from this past week is my favorite beer I've had of theirs...



My order is ready for pickup.  Thanks for the recommendation.

Mine too. Thanks for the recs Yada. I feel like I've had DDH Mylar Bags on draft, but never cans. Memory says it was quite excellent. Always looking for quality lower abv IPA's so got one of them, Vapor Ringz will have to wait until another time.

Regarding Vapor Ringz, the call it an "oat cream IPA." What is oat cream and what features would it give to the beer?

Imperial Oat Cream IPA with 2-row, wheat, and oats hopped with Citra, Galaxy, and Nelson
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 22, 2020, 01:25:35 pm
Quote from: “endowment” -Hatch ılıl|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on April 22, 2020, 12:47:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 22, 2020, 12:19:35 pm
ok, fine, i'll bite: YSAO?
Yada Says ABV is Overated

When you have drinking habits not to be discussed in this thread, you can't drink 10% triples every day.

Also, if my partner isn't drinking, I can take down a small series pretty easily.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2020, 01:45:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 12:53:37 pm
Regarding Vapor Ringz, the call it an "oat cream IPA." What is oat cream and what features would it give to the beer?

Imperial Oat Cream IPA with 2-row, wheat, and oats hopped with Citra, Galaxy, and Nelson

just a guess, but i imagine the "cream" designation is about the mouthfeel.  oats = beta glucan = that thick, syrupy effect you get in oatmeal stouts, for example.  i'd put my money on that, but another possibility is in relation to the wheat - cream of wheat?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 23, 2020, 01:31:28 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on April 22, 2020, 12:30:41 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2020, 10:13:50 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 10:05:04 am
Hey Yada (or anybody else)...can you put in an order to DTC on a Wed and pick up on a Sat?

Anybody have an opinion on DDH Vapor Ringz vs. DDH Mylar Bags vs DDH Small Mosaic Everything?

The DDH Mylar from this past week is my favorite beer I've had of theirs...



My order is ready for pickup.  Thanks for the recommendation.

I had one last night...verrrry tasty, but damn that's a sugar bomb!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 24, 2020, 07:44:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 22, 2020, 10:13:50 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 10:05:04 am
Hey Yada (or anybody else)...can you put in an order to DTC on a Wed and pick up on a Sat?

Anybody have an opinion on DDH Vapor Ringz vs. DDH Mylar Bags vs DDH Small Mosaic Everything?

Yes, pick up is fine whenever.

The DDH Mylar from this past week is my favorite beer I've had of theirs... However, the "small" series is my YSAO in all aspects as it's low ABV and delicious.

The Veil's version of that beer is $2 cheaper. I wonder how it compares.

DDH Mylar Bags (Freaky Friday edition) is a classic Other Half DIPA brewed by The Veil! It's an Imperial IPA brewed with oats + wheat, hopped with Amarillo, Citra, El Dorado, Galaxy, Mosaic, + Citra and Mosaic Lupulin Powder. 8.8% ABV.
$18.00+tax/4pack. 4x 4packs pp each.⠀
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 29, 2020, 12:06:35 pm
Wow

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/business/beer-sales-coronavirus/index.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 29, 2020, 12:22:37 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 29, 2020, 12:06:35 pm
Wow

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/business/beer-sales-coronavirus/index.html

Everyone needs some daily drinkers. I stocked up on Modelo, Michelob ultra, high life, rolling rock, Peroni, as well as a few German pilsners on Monday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 29, 2020, 12:24:16 pm
Quote from: hutch on April 29, 2020, 12:06:35 pm
Wow

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/business/beer-sales-coronavirus/index.html
not sure that article surprised me...
people are buying 30 packs of shitty beer, because they are only going shopping once every two weeks and people are worried about their next paycheck

this is also sad, but obvious
Craft beer, which is pricier, isn't seeing the same increase in sales compared to its cheaper siblings. Around 70% of sales come from the brewer's taprooms or at bars,
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2020, 01:08:11 am
Quote from: Blursday, Maypril 49th. ılıl|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on April 29, 2020, 12:24:16 pm
]
not sure that article surprised me...
people are buying 30 packs of shitty beer, because they are only going shopping once every two weeks and people are worried about their next paycheck

It also the same "shitty" beer those people were drinking in bars, they're just drinking it at home now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2020, 01:12:00 am
Smackie's been taking a different approach. I've been drinking only local beers from our local bars and restaurants so their kegs don't go bad (and so they stay in business). 

Around 4pm, each day the fam takes a 1.5 mile stroll around the neighborhood and pickup glasses of wine and Crowlers of beer from windows of our favorite places selling the stuff.  Tippy heavy friends, if you're able
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 02:18:02 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 30, 2020, 01:12:00 am
Smackie's been taking a different approach. I've been drinking only local beers from our local bars and restaurants so their kegs don't go bad (and so they stay in business). 

Around 4pm, each day the fam takes a 1.5 mile stroll around the neighborhood and pickup glasses of wine and Crowlers of beer from windows of our favorite places selling the stuff.  Tippy heavy friends, if you're able

not all heroes wear capes. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2020, 02:20:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 02:18:02 pm
not all heroes wear capes. 

Just masks....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 03:36:50 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 30, 2020, 02:20:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 02:18:02 pm
not all heroes wear capes. 

Just masks....

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512LvIkrsnL._AC_SL1001_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 30, 2020, 04:24:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 03:36:50 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 30, 2020, 02:20:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 02:18:02 pm
not all heroes wear capes. 

Just masks....

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512LvIkrsnL._AC_SL1001_.jpg)

Is that you, walky?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2020, 05:40:16 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 03:36:50 pm
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512LvIkrsnL._AC_SL1001_.jpg)

Only when I get my beers on Folsom. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folsom_Street_Fair)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2020, 09:57:15 am
I think most forumers are up to snuff on what's going on locally, but just in case.

https://biermi.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on May 05, 2020, 11:34:29 am
Quote from: Yada on April 30, 2020, 04:24:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 03:36:50 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 30, 2020, 02:20:05 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 02:18:02 pm
not all heroes wear capes. 

Just masks....

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512LvIkrsnL._AC_SL1001_.jpg)

Is that you, walky?

No . . . I am not, straight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 06, 2020, 02:35:02 pm
Doing my best to prop up the Belgian economy. #QuarantinePorchBomb


(https://i.ibb.co/nDzsxn8/loons2.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2020, 02:59:21 pm
dafuk you get THAT?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 06, 2020, 03:20:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 06, 2020, 02:59:21 pm
dafuk you get THAT?!?
very selfish that Yada is
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 06, 2020, 03:32:05 pm
Quote from: treated worst than trump ılıl|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on May 06, 2020, 03:20:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 06, 2020, 02:59:21 pm
dafuk you get THAT?!?
very selfish that Yada is

I considered an old school forum share but too many doxers and untrustables.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2020, 05:58:15 pm
seriously tho, a dozen 'loons... nice haul.  jelly.

maybe to celebrate the end of the pandemic, if/when that comes, i'll break into my 5-6 year old bottles of lambic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 09, 2020, 04:48:12 pm
I got in on that Triple Crossing drop last night. Damn!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 09, 2020, 05:10:15 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on May 09, 2020, 04:48:12 pm
I got in on that Triple Crossing drop last night. Damn!

Which ones did you get? I really love Interstellar Burst. I skipped on it this time around though, my fridge is too full for any more beer right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 09, 2020, 06:04:46 pm
Interstellar, Battle Creek and Falcon Smash. Srsly good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 09, 2020, 06:12:05 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on May 09, 2020, 06:04:46 pm
Interstellar, Battle Creek and Falcon Smash. Srsly good!
Everybody raves about Veil but honestly, if you want an IPA, Triple Crossing is much easier to just walk in and buy what you want. (It also helps it’s a half mile from me as the crow flies.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 09, 2020, 06:20:40 pm
Stuck in Montgomery County....gotta get it when I can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 09, 2020, 06:34:19 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on May 09, 2020, 06:20:40 pm
Stuck in Montgomery County....gotta get it when I can.
Oh, fair enough on that. Just as a local, I’ll walk into Triple Crossing and out with whatever I want that they make 90 seconds later with nothing ever  out of stock over dealing with the Veil madness every time. Appreciate the equation is different for non-Richmonders.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 09, 2020, 06:58:26 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 09, 2020, 06:12:05 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on May 09, 2020, 06:04:46 pm
Interstellar, Battle Creek and Falcon Smash. Srsly good!
Everybody raves about Veil but honestly, if you want an IPA, Triple Crossing is much easier to just walk in and buy what you want. (It also helps it’s a half mile from me as the crow flies.)

Yeah, this is an argument for the ages. I think i might be in the Triple Crossing camp these days, at least for IPA's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 12, 2020, 08:07:50 pm
Founders will be bringing back Big Luscious (imperial stout with rasperries and dark chocolate) starting in Oct through Dec.  i can't remember if i tried this one the first time 'round, a few years back, but certainly sounds good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 12, 2020, 10:15:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 12, 2020, 08:07:50 pm
Founders will be bringing back Big Luscious (imperial stout with rasperries and dark chocolate) starting in Oct through Dec.  i can't remember if i tried this one the first time 'round, a few years back, but certainly sounds good.

Not to pick on space again, but the only time I hung out with you guys and brought heady topper and hill farmstead (this was a big deal in 2014), space provided a cuvee of rubaeus and founder's stout to make a homemade version of this beer. #thanksSpace
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 13, 2020, 08:40:13 am
Quote from: Yada on May 12, 2020, 10:15:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 12, 2020, 08:07:50 pm
Founders will be bringing back Big Luscious (imperial stout with rasperries and dark chocolate) starting in Oct through Dec.  i can't remember if i tried this one the first time 'round, a few years back, but certainly sounds good.

Not to pick on space again, but the only time I hung out with you guys and brought heady topper and hill farmstead (this was a big deal in 2014), space provided a cuvee of rubaeus and founder's stout to make a homemade version of this beer. #thanksSpace

Sorry about that. I was probably too busy mowing my lawn to drive to Vermont and grab some Alchemist or Hill Farmstead.  ;)

I don't seem to remember the beer (Founders or my experiment) being all that great, but I guess it often depends how much one is into sugar bombs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 13, 2020, 10:08:43 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 13, 2020, 08:40:13 am
Quote from: Yada on May 12, 2020, 10:15:42 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 12, 2020, 08:07:50 pm
Founders will be bringing back Big Luscious (imperial stout with rasperries and dark chocolate) starting in Oct through Dec.  i can't remember if i tried this one the first time 'round, a few years back, but certainly sounds good.

Not to pick on space again, but the only time I hung out with you guys and brought heady topper and hill farmstead (this was a big deal in 2014), space provided a cuvee of rubaeus and founder's stout to make a homemade version of this beer. #thanksSpace

Sorry about that. I was probably too busy mowing my lawn to drive to Vermont and grab some Alchemist or Hill Farmstead.  ;)

I don't seem to remember the beer (Founders or my experiment) being all that great, but I guess it often depends how much one is into sugar bombs.

I was trading phish tickets and mowing my lawn then, not driving to VT. :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 13, 2020, 10:40:16 am
If you stop by my house, I can probably offer you something fancier now. Or, my two sort of delicious homebrews.

In 2014, I was a bit less advanced in my beer journey. I had been to Vermont in 2013, but all of it had been drank by 2014. I've never really been interested in trading beer or concert tickets.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2020, 02:21:17 pm
along with Sapwood, i've been talking up Idiom Brewing in Fredneck over the years... both were started by really good homebrewers. 

now looks like Idiom will be making delivery runs to B'more and DC, in case you wanna give them a spin (if you do, please consider ordering directly from their website instead of bierme.com)

Quote
Idiom Brewing Co.
MORE BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS!

That's right! We will now deliver to Baltimore City and Washington, D.C. once a week!

Place your orders NOW on either Biermi (https://biermi.com/brewery/idiom) or our website (https://www.idiombrewing.com/product-category/beer-to-go/)

Our first deliveries for these cities will go out next Thursday and Friday. Orders can be placed up until 3pm on your designated delivery day.

We love that we can spread the love through beer to our customers all over. Thank you for your support and we look forward to serving you in Bmore and D.C.!
 
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/96717984_3814887071885962_479289170225790976_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=2d5d41&_nc_oc=AQkzThMxUBrINLlJAqMyvI3U0pLJe7Z5K69ovIl8P25wK2-PcMJz17aSF_a0izfVxkA&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=9e1f76f5f144586c038c65d715cd4166&oe=5EE31AEF)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 14, 2020, 03:18:20 pm
Some excellent stuff from Downtown Crown's VA cousin Dominion today.

Triple Crossing, Foam, Humble Forager, Weldwerks, Charlestown Fermentory, Bissell Brothers, etc.

I was too slow to get any Foam, but the rest was still available.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 14, 2020, 03:22:40 pm
Iiiiiiiiiiii'm looking through
And it all would be
So crystal clear
If it wasn't for the foam
But the foam keeps getting thicker
And it just keeps getting harder
And I'm faaaaaalllllling
Into a deep
Well
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 14, 2020, 03:27:51 pm
One fun thing about Foam is all their beers are indie rock references.

🔥🔥 Foam Brewers with four arrivals! 🔥🔥
🚨 Limit one 4-pack of each type per customer 🚨
-'Built to Spill' DIPA (8.0% ABV)
-'Pop Crimes' TIPA (10.0% ABV)
-'The Fruit That Ate Itself' IPA (7.2% ABV)
-'Youth Lagoon' DIPA (8.0% ABV)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 14, 2020, 03:44:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 14, 2020, 03:27:51 pm
One fun thing about Foam is all their beers are indie rock references.

🔥🔥 Foam Brewers with four arrivals! 🔥🔥
🚨 Limit one 4-pack of each type per customer 🚨
-'Built to Spill' DIPA (8.0% ABV)
-'Pop Crimes' TIPA (10.0% ABV)
-'The Fruit That Ate Itself' IPA (7.2% ABV)
-'Youth Lagoon' DIPA (8.0% ABV)

What?? You're not loading up on Idiom????
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 14, 2020, 04:07:24 pm
The Idiom taproom is a nice stop off after going hiking at Annapolis Rock/Black Rock Cliff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 28, 2020, 04:18:36 pm
Plant based bottles?
(https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/the-paper-bottle-project-6.jpg)
https://mymodernmet.com/the-paper-bottle-project
although I bet aluminum is cheaper and more environmentally friendly
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 28, 2020, 07:16:29 pm
Quote from: Pulitzer Repo-man ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on May 28, 2020, 04:18:36 pm
Plant based bottles?

although I bet aluminum is cheaper and more environmentally friendly

i'm betting aluminium is cheaper for now, but it shouldn't be hard to beat once paper bottles scale up.  making aluminium is incredibly energy intensive. the ore (bauxite) needs to be shipped around the world, increasing its enviro impact on top of the fact that it isn't biodegradable (but does have a plastic lining, and sometimes a plastic outer layer/wrapper).  i can see plant-based bottles being both cheaper and more enviro than Al.

what i'm scratching my head about is that this initiative's aim is to develop an alternative to plastic bottles.  beer isn't packaged in plastic.  so i'm was a bit confused why Carlsberg was part of this story... but whatever, good for them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on May 28, 2020, 08:50:57 pm
I can't wait until everything is plant based, and then we run out of plants, and then everything has to be made out of seashells, and then we run out of seashells, and then everything has to be made out of plastic again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on June 08, 2020, 03:45:32 pm
had the pleasure of some Aslin Master of Oranges cans over the weekend--excellent
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on June 08, 2020, 03:54:38 pm
Oooh that reminds me.  I gotta pick up my Other Half Triple Broccoli!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 08, 2020, 04:57:40 pm
I had my first can of Other Half's Do You Want More? the other day. Someone referred to it on Beer Advocate as "the best OH sour IPA." I'm not going to argue, it's the only one I've had.

The answer to the question is yes. I wish they'd brew this style more, and i want more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 08, 2020, 05:00:41 pm
Anybody familiar with Mortalis Brewing? Nearly as high of an untappd overall score as Tree House (4.34 vs. 4.36) and higher than Other Half (4.24)

https://untappd.com/MortalisBrewingCompany
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 08, 2020, 08:23:49 pm
I’ve had As Above So Below. Good stuff.

But that it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on June 08, 2020, 09:21:04 pm
My local, beer store closed. Sad.  Now I don't know anything about the latest crazes, and have to shop at Food Lion.

Look, it up . . . city slickers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2020, 03:16:07 pm
Do you think this tastes better than their flagship product?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUjQme-XQAEIg_3?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2020, 12:15:37 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCGp5FPpdnb
watch the vid...over 300 galons a minute through a 4 inch port

Think you are having a bad day? Well our newest beer in the works Major Nelson IPA just got a bit more limited.
We had 2 full 40bbl tanks fermenting for a mid-July can release (our first hazy juicy flaked oat IPA to distribution). Well now it is one tank...

Just a touch too much dry hop too fast in the fermentation set it off. Co2 outgassed and as you can see it didn't take long to lose one of our most expensive beers to make.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2020, 01:54:23 pm
^ OUCH.  citra, nelson and mosaic - three of the most expensive hops.  yeah, that's going to hurt the bottom line.

in case you're wondering what the hell is going on here: during and after fermentation the beer is carbonated - usually it's only a light carbonation, but depending on process the carbonation can be quite high.  one of the things keeping a gas in liquid solution is its diffusion: individual CO2 molecules are insignificant on their own, they need to join together to form a bubble before it will rise.  this happens very slowly on a smooth surface (like glass), and much faster on uneven or rough surfaces.  such bubble-producing roughness is called a nucleation point - some fancy beer glasses have them etched into the bottom of the glass to enhance CO2 release (which in turn carries the aroma).  adding dry-hops to a carbonated beer = addition of a LOT of nucleation points.  the process can create a chain reaction: bubbles form and rise, pushing non-bound CO2 together with other unbound CO2, creating more bubbles, etc.  whoever dry-hopped that beer did so too quickly (and/or the beer was way too carbonated, should have bled some pressure off first).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2020, 02:03:32 pm
Quote from: Abolish the Side-burbs ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on July 09, 2019, 04:49:57 pm

closure of Mad Fox Brewing Company. Our last day of business will be Sunday, July 21st.
\\We are PUTTING THE BAND BACK TOGETHER! In honor of what would have been the Ten Year Anniversary of Mad Fox, we are teaming up with some of the Mad Fox team that made it so great. Stay tuned for an all Citra hopped East Coast style IPA coming soon! It may seem a little familiar to you... 😉🍻😎 @ Fair Winds Brewing Company
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 13, 2020, 01:20:59 pm
my sister-in-law drove up from california for the weekend (no worries, she got tested before coming up).  she knows me enough that she brought me a bottle of Pliny - wo0t!  it was a completely unexpected surprise, and a lovely one at that - haven't had Pliny in over two years so i was ready to tuck into that simcoe sauce... until i flipped the bottle over and read "bottled on: 18 Feb 2018."  insert sad trombone sfx.

i drank it just to see what it was like, and it was pretty awful.  tasted exactly like what a old, oxidized IPA should taste like.  darn.  the end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2020, 01:33:56 pm
I remember the local Whole Foods in SF used to get Russian river stuff pretty regularly and it was fresh
that is a bummer on what looked like an awesome gift
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 13, 2020, 01:37:27 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 13, 2020, 01:20:59 pm
my sister-in-law drove up from california for the weekend (no worries, she got tested before coming up).  she knows me enough that she brought me a bottle of Pliny - wo0t!  it was a completely unexpected surprise, and a lovely one at that - haven't had Pliny in over two years so i was ready to tuck into that simcoe sauce... until i flipped the bottle over and read "bottled on: 18 Feb 2018."  insert sad trombone sfx.

i drank it just to see what it was like, and it was pretty awful.  tasted exactly like what a old, oxidized IPA should taste like.  darn.  the end.

Some people call that a barleywine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 13, 2020, 01:56:37 pm
Quote from: The reign of Sidehatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|lıl on July 13, 2020, 01:33:56 pm
I remember the local Whole Foods in SF used to get Russian river stuff pretty regularly and it was fresh

last time i had pliny was in SF - got some on tap at the toronado and in bottles at the WF down the hill from smax's.  stuff was like 2 days old.

Quote from: Space Freely on July 13, 2020, 01:37:27 pm
Some people call that a barleywine.

ugh, agreed, but those people don't know what they're talking about ;D

didn't have the malt to be a barleywine.  this was oxidized hops and that's pretty much it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on July 24, 2020, 10:10:38 pm
Everyone is getting drunk


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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on August 01, 2020, 08:05:59 am
lemon peppermint guinness

 https://baltimorefishbowl.com/stories/guinness-open-gate-brewery-marks-two-years-with-two-new-beers/    (https://baltimorefishbowl.com/stories/guinness-open-gate-brewery-marks-two-years-with-two-new-beers/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 04, 2020, 09:30:11 pm
The 1814 beer flood
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1814-beer-flood-killed-eight-people-180964256
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 12, 2020, 03:19:13 pm
I actually went to their upstate location in July. Great place. Everything was outdoors and distanced. They only had three taps going and were selling mostly cans for onsite consumption.

I don't think the Brooklyn taproom is open. I wonder if this one will really open in October. I'd be fine with just grabbing cans at Downtown Crown indefinitely.

Copied from Beer Advocate:

Award-Winning Brooklyn-Based Brewery Plans Taproom & Production Facility

Brooklyn, NY (August 12, 2020) – Other Half Brewing co-founders Andrew Burman, Matt Monahan and Sam Richardson are thrilled to announce the October 2020 opening of the brewery’s Ivy City taproom & production facility at 1401 Okie Street NE, Washington, DC, 20002, in the former Pappas Tomato Factory building.

Other Half Brewing will help anchor the new Ivy City retail center neighboring the Hecht Warehouse with a 22,000-square foot production facility and taproom, including a 7,500-square foot outdoor patio with covered pavilion and roof deck and 5,000-square foot indoor tasting and taproom.

Other Half is scheduled to start brewing beer on-site in late September, with initial plans to offer curbside pick-up and delivery. The taproom will offer 20 lines of Other Half beer on draft, as well as limited collaborations from brewers and vintners from around the country and world. In addition, the brewery program will focus on award-winning hazy IPAs, lagers and barrel-aged stouts, as well as special release, limited-edition collaboration beers with eye-catching label art.

“Andrew and I grew up in the D.C. area, and we are honored to open a brewery in our hometown and join the Beltway’s amazing beer scene,” says co-founder Matt Monahan. “We’ve long admired D.C.’s dynamic brewing community and look forward to sharing our beers with guests and to collaborating with some of the world’s best brewers who call D.C. home,” says co-founder Andrew Burman.

“This is the first brewery we built to meet all our specific needs from the start,” says co-founder Sam Richardson. “We’re excited to bring our IPAs – what Other Half is known for – to D.C., but with this purpose-built brewery, we will be able to develop a more robust, barrel-aged Imperial Stout and barley wine program and the larger tanks will allow us to brew more lagers.”
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 24, 2020, 10:14:37 am
Beer highlights of our New England vacation:

1. Cantillon Classic Geuze and assorted Tree House beers at former boardies Markie and Lulu's house. In case you're lurking here...thanks so much again and great to see you, wish we could have stayed longer for more fun!

2. Trillium Canton..nice outdoor dining experience, though none of the beers truly stood out.

3. Maine Beer Company Dinner. I've had it here, but it was extra good at the source, paired with some tasty pizza for dinner.

4. Oxbow Aboreal....bottle of wild ale at the original Oxbow location in Newcastle. Definitely worth the drive over country roads to get to such a peaceful, scenic stop. Also went to their Portland location where you can get some awesome Duckfat Frites (minor cheat.)

5. Odd Aleswives...nice Belgian brewery in rural Maine with good pizza and lovely outdoor farm location...not far from Oxbow, making it a one two punch, excellent pizza.

6. Bissell Brothers Maple Barrel Aged Porter and Fox Farms Freckled Fields (saison) at Novare Res Bier Cafe (while huddled under a beer garden umbrella during a thunderstorm.

7. Not a beer highlight, but lots of lobster rolls. I return quite a bit poorer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 24, 2020, 10:48:20 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 24, 2020, 10:14:37 am

2. Trillium Canton..nice outdoor dining experience, though none of the beers truly stood out.

3. Maine Beer Company Dinner. I've had it here, but it was extra good at the source, paired with some tasty pizza for dinner.

7. Not a beer highlight, but lots of lobster rolls. I return quite a bit poorer.

Nice write up.

Is that to say the Trillium beers were boring?  Or uniformly great?

Were the Maine beers draft or bottle?  I was recently given a kegerator and the 1/6 keg selection is lacking.  Maine is a choice, but I wonder how their beers hold up as drafts vs bottles.

God, I love lobster rolls.  I've had all of one this summer. That's pathetic.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 24, 2020, 11:23:59 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 24, 2020, 10:48:20 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 24, 2020, 10:14:37 am

2. Trillium Canton..nice outdoor dining experience, though none of the beers truly stood out.

3. Maine Beer Company Dinner. I've had it here, but it was extra good at the source, paired with some tasty pizza for dinner.

7. Not a beer highlight, but lots of lobster rolls. I return quite a bit poorer.

Nice write up.

Is that to say the Trillium beers were boring?  Or uniformly great?

Were the Maine beers draft or bottle?  I was recently given a kegerator and the 1/6 keg selection is lacking.  Maine is a choice, but I wonder how their beers hold up as drafts vs bottles.

God, I love lobster rolls.  I've had all of one this summer. That's pathetic.

Trillium had a pretty limited draft selection. For IPAs, they only had two on draft...both were triple IPA's. One was a Monkish collaboration. We had them both and i suppose they are good for what they were, but a little harsh for my current palate..prefer the 6-8% abv range. I think we also had some sort of fruited sour, which was good, but not nearly as good as the Mortalis sours sitting in my fridge. :)

We had Maine Lunch and Dinner on draft at the source, then another Dinner on draft at Novare Res. All excellent. I haven't had any of their bottles in a long time, so can't compare. I almost got some bottles of Dinner but held back because I already had (cheaper) cans of Tree House, Trillium, and Bissell Brothers in the car.

My kid would eat lobster roll at every meal for a week straight if we let her.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 24, 2020, 12:33:57 pm
Not nearly as exciting as Space's NE journey, we went to Lone Oak Brewery yesterday.

Absolutely gorgeous and better beer than Waredaca which is right up the road from them.... I hope they can survive as they opened in June.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 24, 2020, 04:46:44 pm
Lone Oak’s IPAs are ok. Didn’t enjoy their lager (Xylem) at all. A nice spot with tons of room tho.

Was back at Checkerspot this weekend. Much better than my first trip - thought the beers were consistently meh that time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 26, 2020, 01:58:33 pm
finally a good use for bud light!


Bay Area Man Saves Home From Wildfires By Keying Bud Light


Beer “was the only thing I had that I had a lot of,” he says (https://sf.eater.com/2020/8/25/21401275/lnu-lightning-wildfire-vacaville-bay-area-bud-light)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 03, 2020, 07:17:05 pm
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Total wine and wegmans
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That was a mean rick-roll...here I thought someone new was posting on beer...shame on me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 08, 2020, 01:37:32 pm
yeah, i got momentarily excited too.

i'm drinking probably more beer than ever, but i've retreated to my old standbys.  i'm mainlining Georgetown's Bodhizafa like it's my business.  i'm only buying from the grocery store, none of this hunting around for something special or rare.  and i'm perfectly ok with that, these days.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 08, 2020, 02:11:50 pm
Still working on cleaning out the Tree House, Trillium, an Bissell Brothers IPAs from my beer fridge. And the Mortalis fruited sours I picked up in two visits to my family. And drinking the occasional stout. That's all I got.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 08, 2020, 02:18:21 pm
I, too, have tired of chasing the latest (but only momentarily) greatest. Also tiring of juice bombs. Only have a few Other Half IPAs left to plow through.

Recently had a friend give me his kegerator. T think this will be the path forward this fall and winter. Sadly, many local breweries have stopped distributing kegs as they aren’t as profitable as cans and drafts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 08, 2020, 06:29:39 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 08, 2020, 02:18:21 pm
Recently had a friend give me his kegerator. T think this will be the path forward this fall and winter. Sadly, many local breweries have stopped distributing kegs as they aren’t as profitable as cans and drafts.

if the mountain won't come to mohammed, bring mohammed to the mountain: if the breweries have stopped stoking your local keg-mart, then go straight to the brewery.  simply ask them if they'll fill a keg for you.  several breweries around here will do that, even though they don't advertise it.  typically you need to drop off the keg and then pick up a few days later as they'll get around to filling it when they have time.

breweries are having problems finding enough outlets for their beer.  i'd expect many to be very receptive to your offer of taking 5 gallons off their hands.  worth looking into. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 09, 2020, 08:50:12 am
Fair point. I inquired about Burley Oak - figured I might as well swing for the fences.

I did talk to one of the guys at Sapwood and he said they have only twice sold kegs. Total Wine seems to have Union and Hysteria regularly so maybe they have some pull with other locals.




Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 09, 2020, 09:18:37 am
Anybody has any Elder Pine? They seem to really have stepped up their game. Making my first brewery visit there tomorrow after a morning hike.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 09, 2020, 09:56:39 am
Elder Pine has been hit or miss for me - the hits are really good, though. Really nice spot, too.

The last time we went late on a Friday and they were out of IPAs. Never a good thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 11, 2020, 02:14:55 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 09, 2020, 09:56:39 am
Elder Pine has been hit or miss for me - the hits are really good, though. Really nice spot, too.

The last time we went late on a Friday and they were out of IPAs. Never a good thing.

Drove all the way there, wife got carsick from the country roads, and they said they were filled to capacity so better try some other place. We went to Downtown Crown and got a Cushwa DIPA and a Bourbon County.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 11, 2020, 03:29:30 pm
Sorry to hear that.

Kudos to them for sticking to their limits tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 11, 2020, 03:34:54 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 11, 2020, 03:29:30 pm
Sorry to hear that.

Kudos to them for sticking to their limits tho.

Thanks and yes, kudos to them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 12, 2020, 10:38:50 pm
AstroLab has been absolutely crushing it lately. Verrry happy to be within their delivery zone :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 13, 2020, 09:33:04 am
What’s new there?

Best brewery in Silver Spring. Walking distance to my office but I haven’t been there in going on 7 months.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 13, 2020, 09:58:55 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 11, 2020, 02:14:55 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 09, 2020, 09:56:39 am
Elder Pine has been hit or miss for me - the hits are really good, though. Really nice spot, too.

The last time we went late on a Friday and they were out of IPAs. Never a good thing.

Drove all the way there, wife got carsick from the country roads, and they said they were filled to capacity so better try some other place. We went to Downtown Crown and got a Cushwa DIPA and a Bourbon County.

You should have checked out Lone Oak or Brookeville Beer Farm, which are close by.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on October 13, 2020, 10:30:46 am
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 12, 2020, 10:38:50 pm
AstroLab has been absolutely crushing it lately. Verrry happy to be within their delivery zone :)

Agree. Been drinking their Gravitas Rainbow.

Also loving Cushwa and Nepenthe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 13, 2020, 12:05:19 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on October 13, 2020, 09:58:55 am
You should have checked out Lone Oak or Brookeville Beer Farm, which are close by.

Can’t imagine Lone Oak ever meeting a capacity limit.

BBF has really fallen off lately.

I want to get back to Saints Row and True Reapite at some point.

Would like to hit up Nepenthe and that Celebrated Summer Record shop too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 13, 2020, 01:14:22 pm
I wasn't a big fan of BBF beers when i went a couple of years ago. Maybe a tad better than Waredeca. I've heard of Lone Oak and Nepenthe but had to look up where they're actually located just now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 20, 2020, 03:48:21 am
i had an opportunity to enter civilization last week, so i hit up Total Wine to see if there was anything interesting to be had.  they had some Born Yesterday in the fridge that was fresh, so i grabbed some along with some Backwoods Bastard.  most notable thing that i saw was KBS for $18/4-pack.  a year ago they were going for $24.  maybe Founders finally got the message...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 20, 2020, 03:56:31 am
GABF was held online, whatever that means, this past weekend.

the expo was a no-go, but the competition was still held and you can see winners here (https://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com/the-competition/winners/).  notable:
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 20, 2020, 09:08:25 am
I had about 5 beers at silver branch a year or two ago and was not impressed 
Don’t recall the saison?
But with all the great brews coming out of VA/MD  it is sad that these three are the names that won for the DMV
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 20, 2020, 09:42:36 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 20, 2020, 03:48:21 am
i had an opportunity to enter civilization last week, so i hit up Total Wine to see if there was anything interesting to be had.  they had some Born Yesterday in the fridge that was fresh, so i grabbed some along with some Backwoods Bastard.  most notable thing that i saw was KBS for $18/4-pack.  a year ago they were going for $24.  maybe Founders finally got the message...

2015 called, they want their references back!

What message did Founders finally get?

KBS is now a year round beer. I noticed it for $17/four pack at Whole Foods. I would have bought some at that price, but i have way too much beer at home, including KBS dating back to 2017. I would say I'm purposely aging it, but really it's aging because i bought too much. At least all my Tree House ipa's are from 2020.

I actually have so much store/brewery bought beer to go through that I'm not homebrewing until the Spring. I even still have a case left of the quad homebrew that i brewed last Fall. It's actually mellowed and drinking quite nicely now, as you predicted back in the Spring.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 20, 2020, 10:02:45 am
My experience has been that KBS doesn’t age as well as Bourbon County or CBS. YMMV.

Silver Branch was noticeably better the last time I went but still a few steps behind AstroLab. I don’t recall having the saison, either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 20, 2020, 11:02:23 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 20, 2020, 03:56:31 am
GABF was held online, whatever that means, this past weekend.
   
  • VA: 16 medals, lots of names I don't recognize. 
Just checked the link; Wow VA kicked butt ...Tied with WA for 16, and beat them in a few categories! (WA did have 7 golds tho)
NY and FL did horrible too

  I guess places like Aslin, Commonwealth, Tripple Crossing, Hardywood, The Veil, Brothers, Ocelet, Red Dragon, and others just don't enter these contests? (I guess since people already know they are great...not worth the $385 per beer cost plus the actual beer and shipping...)


You are right..I haven't even heard of 9 of them

I've had these two and I do think they are very tasty...not a good enough judge to say gold worthy on both
Safety Dance   Smartmouth Brewing Co.   Kellerbier or Zwickelbier Gold
ODIS   O'Connor Brewing Co.   Stout   2020


These Gold's surprise me, as they seem like competitive categories...I'm basing both these judgments with no actual knowledge...
Plumpricot   Beale's   Bedford   VA   Specialty Berliner-Style Weisse Gold
Mosaic Pale Ale   Random Row Brewing Co.   Charlottesville   VA   Juicy or Hazy Pale Ale Gold (Beat WA's Reuben's Brews )
Crazy Jackass Ale   Great American Restaurants - Sweetwater Tavern   Centreville   VA   Rye Beer   Gold (Beat WA's Chuckanut Brewery - North Nut)
[/list]
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 20, 2020, 11:56:12 am
Beales in Bedford I have heard of because there was just an article that the owner is opening a Richmond brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on October 22, 2020, 03:16:31 pm
I'm at Mellow Mushroom, drinking something called,  Alltech Lexington Kentucky Pumpkin Barrel Ale.

I'm, in love.  And tipsy, again.

Awwwww, hell.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 24, 2020, 04:53:35 am
Sapwood is collab'ing with Aslin (https://sapwoodcellars.com/all-systems-go/)


(https://i2.wp.com/sapwoodcellars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Drupe-Scoop-with-Label-Small.jpg?w=1200&ssl=1)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 24, 2020, 08:38:27 am
Did you need to clean your keyboard after you saw that news
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 24, 2020, 09:40:29 am
They’re also doing a collab with Jailbreak, I believe?

Went to Elder Pine last nite. They didn’t have all 19 taps going but the beers I had were damn good. They’re now the best brewery in my immediate area. Need to go back soon but I won’t even try it during a weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 24, 2020, 11:02:59 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 24, 2020, 09:40:29 am
Went to Elder Pine last nite. ... They’re now the best brewery in my immediate area. N
Man wish these guys could get VA distribution, guess I'll need to cross the border to get some
Alcohol laws are stupid
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 24, 2020, 05:42:24 pm
It isn’t Sapwood good. But it’s the best within 5 miles of me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 24, 2020, 10:11:54 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on October 24, 2020, 09:40:29 am
They’re also doing a collab with Jailbreak, I believe?

Went to Elder Pine last nite. They didn’t have all 19 taps going but the beers I had were damn good. They’re now the best brewery in my immediate area. Need to go back soon but I won’t even try it during a weekend.

Went last weekend, and can confirm. Such a wide variety of beers, all done very well. They must be really hitting their stride, I think every beer we had was near the top of all of their untappd scores. Generous half pours and friendly service, too. And a very nice, distanced outdoor space to drink them. Will definitely return.

We followed that up with Lone Oak. Nice (and hugely popular) space, mediocre beer, and terrible food. Cool to visit once, but won't return.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 25, 2020, 10:24:21 am
Lone Oak is wildly popular. I guess it's the space cause it sure ain't the beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 12, 2020, 10:32:05 am
Veil drop at DTC

https://www.downtowncrownwinestore.com/shop/the-veil/84

Jules,

Please advise
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 12, 2020, 11:06:24 am
I've had like two of those. Not sure what help I can be.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 12, 2020, 11:23:14 am
Quote from: Bagley on November 12, 2020, 10:32:05 am

Jules,

Please advise
Asking jules for beer advice would be like asking hutch for fashion advice
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 12, 2020, 11:46:18 am
I think the best ones probably already sold out yesterday. I picked up a couple of Veil single cans at the Bruery store in DC. I also picked up a four pack of this one at Other Half. Had one last night and damn, wish i had bought more. That said, I have too much beer so glad i limited myself.


https://untappd.com/b/other-half-brewing-co-b-e-r-r-y-m-a-l-l-o-w-j-r-e-a-m-c-r-u-n-c-h-e-e-imperial-strawberry-marshmallow-crunchee-granola/4040549

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on November 12, 2020, 12:59:33 pm
You are a prudent man.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 12, 2020, 01:00:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 12, 2020, 11:46:18 am
That said, I have too much beer
You know we can do something like Hutch's vinyl send outs...you could just mail me a random 4 pack of beer that your worried won't be fresh in a month, but don't have the time to drink
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 12, 2020, 01:07:49 pm
I found a can of Other Half beer in the back of the fridge last week. It was about a month old so I was super pissed to find it.

It was not good. Expensive drain pour. Drink em fresh or not at all.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 12, 2020, 01:09:36 pm
Quote from: Math doesn't care about ur ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 12, 2020, 01:00:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 12, 2020, 11:46:18 am
That said, I have too much beer
You know we can do something like Hutch's vinyl send outs...you could just mail me a random 4 pack of beer that your worried won't be fresh in a month, but don't have the time to drink

Can you imagine the financial impact that would put on Space and his family? It would most likely take months if not years and dozens of posts on this forum to recover.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 12, 2020, 01:25:31 pm
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oKHWlQ6XmhZl2UU2A/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 19, 2020, 02:56:02 pm
wasted no time getting this to market
(https://static.vinepair.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FourSaisonBeer_header.jpg)
Now, Ireland’s Rascals Brewing Company has announced its own homage to the hilarious affair with a new beer: Four Saisons Total Landscaping.
hopefully doesn't taste like rudy's hair dyesweat
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 19, 2020, 03:42:55 pm
^ great pun.

i wonder if it tastes grassy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 20, 2020, 09:20:36 pm
sapwood's memberships/clubs for 2021 now on sale:
https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/2021-sap-club-membership/ (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/2021-sap-club-membership/)
https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/2021-wood-club-membership/ (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/2021-wood-club-membership/)

also some damn tasty cans and bottles about to be released tomorrow:

"November 21st Can Release:

The Dragon ($20/4-pack) 8.0% ABV DIPA with Nelson Sauvin, Hallertau Blanc, and Mosaic Cryo. Most of our DIPAs are bright, fruity, and juicy... not The Dragon! It's a different sort of hoppy beer, that balances tropical against dank, spicy against winey. It is brewed with barley, oats, wheat and rye. We hop it with a blend of varieties that contain high levels of 3S4MP, which provides an aroma similar to Sauvignon Blanc's distinct grapefruit-rhubarb notes.

Cheater Hops #14 ($18/4-pack) 6.8% ABV IPA DDH with Motueka. A handful of hop varieties pack such appealing aromatics that brewing with them is like cheating. We named our ever-changing series of IPAs “Cheater Hops” in their honor. We are honest brewers, that's why we can admit when we cheat! We double dry-hopped Cheater Hops #14 with over four pounds-per-barrel of New Zealand Motueka for its lime, spice, and tropical fruit aromatics. Wheat and oats support the hops along with a bit of sweetness and a hint of vanilla from our house English ale strain!

If you want added variety, pre-order here for cans of a dark lager (Prophecy of the Clock), Double-Dry-Hopped IPL (Different But Same Same), Citra-hopped hazy pale ale (Rings of Light), or a stone fruit vanilla sour (Drupe Scoop) from the release two weeks ago. We also have bottles of Growing Season Cherry (our kriek-inspired barrel-aged sour) from last week's release!

All of the new releases are on tap already! During the release, Dizzy Cow Pizza will be here and we'll have indoor and outdoor seating available at the tasting room Friday through Sunday.

More info and pre-order (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/november-21st-can-release/)"


(you can also order their kreik (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/growing-season-cherries/) and other assorted cans (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/mini-crowler-4-packs/))
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 20, 2020, 09:44:58 pm
Hit the new Pen Druid location in Sperryville today. Just a damn lovely place to sit out and drink a beer at. And of course their wild ales are spot on.

Back to Elder Pine tomorrow. Note to self to get there early since they'll limit the patrons.

Also hit a newish place in Warrenton last week called Barking Rose. Their focus seems to be German and Belgian beers. Really nice outdoor space and the dopplebock was quite tasty. The owner was a really friendly dude. Reminded me a little bit of Sweetcell.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on November 20, 2020, 09:55:59 pm
Awesome to know about Pen Druid.  Been wanting to hit the new place!!  I love those guys so much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 20, 2020, 10:27:34 pm
The Answer cans available in Arlington!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on November 21, 2020, 07:25:32 pm
Hey Space . . . going to visit Pen Druid tomorrow!!!! Any recommendations of what to get all drunk on first?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on November 21, 2020, 07:26:34 pm
Holy shit . . . I got first post, on page 666.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 21, 2020, 08:04:14 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on November 21, 2020, 07:25:32 pm
Hey Space . . . going to visit Pen Druid tomorrow!!!! Any recommendations of what to get all drunk on first?

If you're a sour guy and like raspberries go with III on Raspberry or Ghosts. If you prefer cherry go with the Cerise. I liked III on Raspberry the best but Ghost has the highest ABV.

Orion, hoppy and tart, sounds good but I haven't had it.

Also tried the cider which was good for a cider but I'm not really I cider guy.

Have fun!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 21, 2020, 10:37:26 pm
In Asheville for the week. Any place I need to try other than the Funkatorium which I get recommended from you guys every time I come here?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 22, 2020, 12:38:15 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TOFURKEY-MAKER on November 21, 2020, 10:37:26 pm
In Asheville for the week. Any place I need to try other than the Funkatorium which I get recommended from you guys every time I come here?

Burial is highly regarded for hoppy beers. New Belgium is a fun hang. And lots of people like Sierra Nevada, though it was too palatial for my bohemian tastes. No idea what places are open and in what regard with respect to COVID.

Caveat: I haven't been to Asheville for a few years, and like a Broken Social Scene show, I've never been to Burial.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 22, 2020, 02:09:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 20, 2020, 09:20:36 pm
sapwood's memberships/clubs for 2021 now on sale:
https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/2021-sap-club-membership/ (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/2021-sap-club-membership/)
https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/2021-wood-club-membership/ (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/2021-wood-club-membership/)

also some damn tasty cans and bottles about to be released tomorrow:

"November 21st Can Release:

The Dragon ($20/4-pack) 8.0% ABV DIPA with Nelson Sauvin, Hallertau Blanc, and Mosaic Cryo. Most of our DIPAs are bright, fruity, and juicy... not The Dragon! It's a different sort of hoppy beer, that balances tropical against dank, spicy against winey. It is brewed with barley, oats, wheat and rye. We hop it with a blend of varieties that contain high levels of 3S4MP, which provides an aroma similar to Sauvignon Blanc's distinct grapefruit-rhubarb notes.

Cheater Hops #14 ($18/4-pack) 6.8% ABV IPA DDH with Motueka. A handful of hop varieties pack such appealing aromatics that brewing with them is like cheating. We named our ever-changing series of IPAs “Cheater Hops” in their honor. We are honest brewers, that's why we can admit when we cheat! We double dry-hopped Cheater Hops #14 with over four pounds-per-barrel of New Zealand Motueka for its lime, spice, and tropical fruit aromatics. Wheat and oats support the hops along with a bit of sweetness and a hint of vanilla from our house English ale strain!

If you want added variety, pre-order here for cans of a dark lager (Prophecy of the Clock), Double-Dry-Hopped IPL (Different But Same Same), Citra-hopped hazy pale ale (Rings of Light), or a stone fruit vanilla sour (Drupe Scoop) from the release two weeks ago. We also have bottles of Growing Season Cherry (our kriek-inspired barrel-aged sour) from last week's release!

All of the new releases are on tap already! During the release, Dizzy Cow Pizza will be here and we'll have indoor and outdoor seating available at the tasting room Friday through Sunday.

More info and pre-order (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/november-21st-can-release/)"


(you can also order their kreik (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/growing-season-cherries/) and other assorted cans (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/mini-crowler-4-packs/))

Can confirm their bottle program has been mediocre at best.... Hops on the other hand are above average.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 30, 2020, 11:05:29 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 22, 2020, 12:38:15 pm
Burial is highly regarded for hoppy beers.
This was pretty terrific and a fun spot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:25:36 pm
My beloved Elder Pine temporarily shut down due to COVID exposure.

I had talked to my wife about going over after work today or tomorrow but I think this might push me into an early hibernation. Not worth it at this point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 03:38:05 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:25:36 pm
My beloved Elder Pine temporarily shut down due to COVID exposure.

I had talked to my wife about going over after work today or tomorrow but I think this might push me into an early hibernation. Not worth it at this point.

Bummer for them. Might do an online order for DTC and stop for a draft this weeekend if the outdoor area is empty....some really nice stuff on draft right now...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:53:40 pm
Yeah DTC’s tap list is really good now. Never seen the patio empty tho.

Picked up a 4 pack(?) of St. Bernardus last week. Was a welcome change from DIPAs I’d been immersed in. Sadly the price point makes Other Half beers look like a bargain.

I do need to pick up some Bourbon County this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 03, 2020, 04:55:45 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:53:40 pm
Yeah DTC’s tap list is really good now. Never seen the patio empty tho.

Picked up a 4 pack(?) of St. Bernardus last week. Was a welcome change from DIPAs I’d been immersed in. Sadly the price point makes Other Half beers look like a bargain.

I do need to pick up some Bourbon County this weekend.

The Weller variant may be the best Bourbon County I've had in years... absolutely delicious. And speaking of Bourbon County, drank a 2014 on Thanksgiving with a big ole' piece of pumpkin pie, it was bliss.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 03, 2020, 05:20:44 pm
Picked this up from DTC a couple weeks ago (my introduction to Veil).  Unique and delicious!

https://shop.theveilbrewing.com/product/triple-apri-guav-tastee-4-pack-16oz-cans/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 05:32:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 03, 2020, 04:55:45 pm
The Weller variant may be the best Bourbon County I've had in years... absolutely delicious.

Good to hear. That's the anniversary variant?

The variants have been ridiculously easy to acquire over the past couple of years but they don't appear readily available in my neck of the woods. Not right now anyway.  Last year they disapeared and then returned.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 05:44:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 03, 2020, 04:55:45 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:53:40 pm
Yeah DTC’s tap list is really good now. Never seen the patio empty tho.

Picked up a 4 pack(?) of St. Bernardus last week. Was a welcome change from DIPAs I’d been immersed in. Sadly the price point makes Other Half beers look like a bargain.

I do need to pick up some Bourbon County this weekend.

The Weller variant may be the best Bourbon County I've had in years... absolutely delicious. And speaking of Bourbon County, drank a 2014 on Thanksgiving with a big ole' piece of pumpkin pie, it was bliss.

We had a 2016 with pecan pie and vanilla ice cream. Might make that a Thanksgiving tradition, just like i always have a Parabola with German chocolate cake and vanilla ice cream on my birthday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 05:46:34 pm
Quote from: Bagley on December 03, 2020, 05:20:44 pm
Picked this up from DTC a couple weeks ago (my introduction to Veil).  Unique and delicious!

https://shop.theveilbrewing.com/product/triple-apri-guav-tastee-4-pack-16oz-cans/

I didn't get that one but last time I was in DTC, they had a bunch of Veil singles in the cooler. Perfect if you're looking to try something, want variety, or don't want a whole four pack
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 05:48:48 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:53:40 pm
Yeah DTC’s tap list is really good now. Never seen the patio empty tho.

Picked up a 4 pack(?) of St. Bernardus last week. Was a welcome change from DIPAs I’d been immersed in. Sadly the price point makes Other Half beers look like a bargain.

I do need to pick up some Bourbon County this weekend.

I've stopped by in the early afternoon on a weekday after a hike a few times and had the patio/tent to myself, or close enough to empty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 05:51:15 pm
Good to know.  Every time i go by it's half full at lease.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 03, 2020, 06:34:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 05:48:48 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:53:40 pm
Yeah DTC’s tap list is really good now. Never seen the patio empty tho.

Picked up a 4 pack(?) of St. Bernardus last week. Was a welcome change from DIPAs I’d been immersed in. Sadly the price point makes Other Half beers look like a bargain.

I do need to pick up some Bourbon County this weekend.

I've stopped by in the early afternoon on a weekday after a hike a few times and had the patio/tent to myself, or close enough to empty.


Sugarloaf hike?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 03, 2020, 06:45:12 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 05:32:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 03, 2020, 04:55:45 pm
The Weller variant may be the best Bourbon County I've had in years... absolutely delicious.

Good to hear. That's the anniversary variant?

yup, per GI's website.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 05:32:58 pm
The variants have been ridiculously easy to acquire over the past couple of years but they don't appear readily available in my neck of the woods. Not right now anyway.  Last year they disapeared and then returned.

based on what i'm seeing, seems like the market for the "classic" BBA'ed stouts (BCBS, KBS, etc.) seems to have crashed.  demand just isn't there anymore.  i suspect it's because the novelty has worn off, the prices are too high and local breweries are making good versions.

my local total wine has the following variants available:
- regular, $13
- caramella, $17
- kentucky fog, $24
- special #4, $24

i'm not enthused about the late additions in the caramella ("wheatwine aged in Larceny Wheated Bourbon barrels with apple, cinnamon, and natural caramel flavor added after aging"), and i don't know if i can bring myself to spend $24 on a bottle... so not looking likely that i'll be picking up any variants this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 07:15:45 pm
Quote from: Bagley on December 03, 2020, 06:34:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 05:48:48 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:53:40 pm
Yeah DTC’s tap list is really good now. Never seen the patio empty tho.

Picked up a 4 pack(?) of St. Bernardus last week. Was a welcome change from DIPAs I’d been immersed in. Sadly the price point makes Other Half beers look like a bargain.

I do need to pick up some Bourbon County this weekend.

I've stopped by in the early afternoon on a weekday after a hike a few times and had the patio/tent to myself, or close enough to empty.


Sugarloaf hike?

Did Sugarloaf once when our kid was little, and didn't really care for it. When we head out 270, we either hike Harpers Ferry (Loudoun Heights) or Annapolis Rocks/Black Rock Cliff. Or we go to Rachel Carson (right net to Elder Pine!) if we want something flat and easy to take our 12+ year old dog to.

When iwego to VA, it's either Old Rag, White Oak Canyon, Mary's Rock, Little Devil's Stairs, or Big Devil's Stairs (boring, won't go back.)

I've been doing a lot of solo weekday hiking this Fall...lots of use or lose days to burn since i didn't burn many in the Spring or Summer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 03, 2020, 07:32:41 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 07:15:45 pm
..lots of use or lose days to burn since i didn't burn many in the Spring or Summer.
man, wish I was in that position
been talking to people who are taking December off otherwise loose 60 hours of vacation time
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 03, 2020, 08:38:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 05:44:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 03, 2020, 04:55:45 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:53:40 pm
Yeah DTC’s tap list is really good now. Never seen the patio empty tho.

Picked up a 4 pack(?) of St. Bernardus last week. Was a welcome change from DIPAs I’d been immersed in. Sadly the price point makes Other Half beers look like a bargain.

I do need to pick up some Bourbon County this weekend.

The Weller variant may be the best Bourbon County I've had in years... absolutely delicious. And speaking of Bourbon County, drank a 2014 on Thanksgiving with a big ole' piece of pumpkin pie, it was bliss.

We had a 2016 with pecan pie and vanilla ice cream. Might make that a Thanksgiving tradition, just like i always have a Parabola with German chocolate cake and vanilla ice cream on my birthday.

Who knew we were so similar space? My go to cake every year is German chocolate as well. Hopefully your family doesn't bitch and complain that none of them like it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 03, 2020, 09:11:22 pm
OMG you guys
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 03, 2020, 09:11:36 pm
This is really happening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 03, 2020, 09:11:55 pm
Ten thousand replies...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 03, 2020, 09:12:10 pm
...all about beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 09:21:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 03, 2020, 08:38:06 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 05:44:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 03, 2020, 04:55:45 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 03, 2020, 03:53:40 pm
Yeah DTC’s tap list is really good now. Never seen the patio empty tho.

Picked up a 4 pack(?) of St. Bernardus last week. Was a welcome change from DIPAs I’d been immersed in. Sadly the price point makes Other Half beers look like a bargain.

I do need to pick up some Bourbon County this weekend.

The Weller variant may be the best Bourbon County I've had in years... absolutely delicious. And speaking of Bourbon County, drank a 2014 on Thanksgiving with a big ole' piece of pumpkin pie, it was bliss.

We had a 2016 with pecan pie and vanilla ice cream. Might make that a Thanksgiving tradition, just like i always have a Parabola with German chocolate cake and vanilla ice cream on my birthday.

Who knew we were so similar space? My go to cake every year is German chocolate as well. Hopefully your family doesn't bitch and complain that none of them like it.

#10,001..about cake. Replied to this but seems it didn't post.

How could anyone bitch and complain about gcc? Geez. My wife and daughter bake the cake, so if they bitched and complained, they'd only have themselves to blame. My daughter basically loves anything with sugar it it, except beer and dark chocolate.

The pecan pie was chocolate pecan pie. Perfect with BCBS. Time for a diet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 03, 2020, 09:45:37 pm
Beer is still integers’ handmaiden.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 04, 2020, 09:43:26 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 09:21:13 pm

How could anyone bitch and complain about gcc? Geez. 

Young kids that don't like coconut I guess.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 04, 2020, 10:47:41 am
Quote from: Yada on December 04, 2020, 09:43:26 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 03, 2020, 09:21:13 pm

How could anyone bitch and complain about gcc? Geez. 

Young kids that don't like coconut I guess.

Bringing it back to beer, coconut is the one adjunct that I found can make a pastry stout too sweet for me. I once tried to add coconut to a homebrew porter and the whole thing was a drain pour..though maybe it wasn't the coconut.

Cinnamon, on the other hand, is always a plus in a stout for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2020, 12:10:32 pm
Coconut, if done right, should be awesome in a stout. Unfortunately, I’ve never had one that I’d call awesome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 04, 2020, 12:53:06 pm
personally, I think this is an outstanding beer
(https://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/e_trim:15/d_beer_img_default.png,f_auto/beer_59330)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on December 04, 2020, 01:08:23 pm
Coconut

WTf is wrong with you man?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 04, 2020, 03:24:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 04, 2020, 10:47:41 am
Bringing it back to beer, coconut is the one adjunct that I found can make a pastry stout too sweet for me. I once tried to add coconut to a homebrew porter and the whole thing was a drain pour..though maybe it wasn't the coconut.
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2020, 12:10:32 pm
Coconut, if done right, should be awesome in a stout. Unfortunately, I’ve never had one that I’d call awesome.

coconut is indeed awesome in a stout, but it's a touch ingredient to pull off.  best commercial version i've ever tried is boulevard's imperial stout X with coconut. apparently firestone walker make both merlin and parabola with coconut but i've never tried them.

i tried once to add coconut to half a batch of homebrew, and didn't get it right... ended up dumping half the batch after i got tired of trying to choke it down.  coconut has a lot of lipids (oils and fats) which you generally don't want in you beer.  i suspect my attempt at dry-coconutting a beer failed because the oils went rancid: between the aging on coconut and then bottle-conditioning it was warm for at least a month.  might even have been two months.   a real shame because the beer (an imperial chocolate stout) was excellent, so i ruined half of a perfectly good batch trying to add that flavor.  should have left well enough alone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 04, 2020, 04:13:42 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2020, 12:10:32 pm
Coconut, if done right, should be awesome in a stout. Unfortunately, I’ve never had one that I’d call awesome.

Dreams by Aslin is a pretty delicious coconut stout that is fairly easily accessible... They've released a few others that are good as well, but can't recall their names. Also, they're typicaly $8 a can which isn't very friendly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2020, 04:32:16 pm
Now that you mention it I think I've had one of those from Aslin. Was pretty good.

Not so good that I actually remembered it, apparently.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 04, 2020, 05:32:54 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 04, 2020, 04:13:42 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2020, 12:10:32 pm
Coconut, if done right, should be awesome in a stout. Unfortunately, I’ve never had one that I’d call awesome.

Dreams by Aslin is a pretty delicious coconut stout that is fairly easily accessible... They've released a few others that are good as well, but can't recall their names. Also, they're typicaly $8 a can which isn't very friendly.

That's friendlier than the $16-$20 for a non-barrel aged 500ml Other Half pastry stout bottle. That said, the couple or three that I've tried from Other Half were all better than Aslin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 07, 2020, 04:44:00 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2020, 12:10:32 pm
Coconut, if done right, should be awesome in a stout.

right on cue, Sapwood released a coconut stout this past weekend: https://sapwoodcellars.com/that-vanilla-life/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 07, 2020, 05:45:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 07, 2020, 04:44:00 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2020, 12:10:32 pm
Coconut, if done right, should be awesome in a stout.

right on cue, Sapwood released a coconut stout this past weekend: https://sapwoodcellars.com/that-vanilla-life/

4.48 on untapped so far, not too shabby. Am I correct that they don't ship to any retail establishments in the DMV?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 07, 2020, 06:16:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 07, 2020, 05:45:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 07, 2020, 04:44:00 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 04, 2020, 12:10:32 pm
Coconut, if done right, should be awesome in a stout.

right on cue, Sapwood released a coconut stout this past weekend: https://sapwoodcellars.com/that-vanilla-life/

4.48 on untapped so far, not too shabby. Am I correct that they don't ship to any retail establishments in the DMV?

back in the day they had very little distribution and most of it (if not all) was kegs sent to bars/restaurants.  they have since acquired a canning line but i haven't seen them mention anything about distribution.  i suspect they still don't distribute.

you'll have to ping them to confirm. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 07, 2020, 10:00:07 pm
Sapwood doesn't send cans down here.

Another local coconut... I may grab this tomorrow, will report back.

https://www.silverbranchbrewing.com/product/endless-joy/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 08, 2020, 09:31:55 am
Quote from: Yada on December 07, 2020, 10:00:07 pm
Sapwood doesn't send cans down here.

Another local coconut... I may grab this tomorrow, will report back.

https://www.silverbranchbrewing.com/product/endless-joy/

I visited Jailbreak's taproom a couple of years ago and the beer was meh, but they appear to have developed a good fruited sour game recently. Also, this coconut stout is raking in good reviews. DTC has four packs...if i could get a single can I'd give it a try.

https://untappd.com/b/jailbreak-brewing-company-oats-and-samoas-and-stuff/4069672
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2020, 10:07:18 am
I'm surprised space stats is giving so much credit to beers that have been rated less than 100 times.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 08, 2020, 10:14:15 am
Jailbreak has a couple good beers. A lot of it is so-so.

I’m definitely interested in Sapwood’s beer. Their heavy stouts are usually outstanding.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2020, 11:39:18 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 08, 2020, 10:14:15 am
Jailbreak has a couple good beers. A lot of it is so-so.

I’m definitely interested in Sapwood’s beer. Their heavy stouts are usually outstanding.

I remember getting excited about Jailbreak's Big Pun in probably 2012 or so. Not sure I've had a beer of theirs since.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 08, 2020, 02:10:04 pm
Special Lady Friend is good. Can’t remember what else I’ve had of theirs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 10, 2020, 10:06:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 07, 2020, 10:00:07 pm
Sapwood doesn't send cans down here.

Another local coconut... I may grab this tomorrow, will report back.

https://www.silverbranchbrewing.com/product/endless-joy/

Two packs of Flaked and three other Sapwood canned beers currently available at DTC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 10, 2020, 10:21:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 10, 2020, 10:06:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 07, 2020, 10:00:07 pm
Sapwood doesn't send cans down here.

Another local coconut... I may grab this tomorrow, will report back.

https://www.silverbranchbrewing.com/product/endless-joy/

Two packs of Flaked and three other Sapwood canned beers currently available at DTC.

I stand corrected $pace.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 10, 2020, 10:43:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 10, 2020, 10:21:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 10, 2020, 10:06:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 07, 2020, 10:00:07 pm
Sapwood doesn't send cans down here.

Another local coconut... I may grab this tomorrow, will report back.

https://www.silverbranchbrewing.com/product/endless-joy/

Two packs of Flaked and three other Sapwood canned beers currently available at DTC.

I stand corrected $pace.

You were probably correct when you posted it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2020, 09:18:31 am
Bissel Bros and Foam cans available in Arlington now!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 11, 2020, 12:44:54 pm
Damn. Love me some Foam.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2020, 01:18:08 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 11, 2020, 12:44:54 pm
Damn. Love me some Foam.
had any of these?
(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmcusercontent.com%2Fbe20bbfba341582993786f7f0%2Fimages%2Fe52a66a1-b2d9-469c-a3bf-5e4155ae56e1.jpeg&t=1607707030&ymreqid=0131edb9-7abf-ec00-1c37-860004015200&sig=oIdSl4Y1U7F_Bq15hLZbfg--~D)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2020, 02:00:59 pm
Quote from: Con-bono-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2020, 01:18:08 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 11, 2020, 12:44:54 pm
Damn. Love me some Foam.
had any of these?
(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmcusercontent.com%2Fbe20bbfba341582993786f7f0%2Fimages%2Fe52a66a1-b2d9-469c-a3bf-5e4155ae56e1.jpeg&t=1607707030&ymreqid=0131edb9-7abf-ec00-1c37-860004015200&sig=oIdSl4Y1U7F_Bq15hLZbfg--~D)

I have, dystopian and clockwork. At this point though, I feel like haze is all the same beer... You can probably get a half dozen other beers locally that taste as good or better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2020, 02:33:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2020, 02:00:59 pm
At this point though, I feel like haze is all the same beer...
I'm still having fun with the haze, but honestly mostly drinking stouts/porters/black IPA/Schwarzbier
I almost bought this stout from Athelitc Beer Co...then saw it was non-alcoholic!

but I have been trying to get excited for these Pilsners/Lagers people are putting out...and they just taste slightly better than what you get at a grocery store....for twice the price.  So putting my space filter on...can't really justify the purchase

Give me 3 craft pils/lagers that are must haves
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 11, 2020, 02:53:20 pm
Quote from: Con-bono-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2020, 02:33:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2020, 02:00:59 pm
At this point though, I feel like haze is all the same beer...


Give me 3 craft pils/lagers that are must haves

I don't think I've bought any haze other than Other Half for close to a year other than a few nice friends/mulers that have supplied me with some misc cans from the NE.

Anything from Suarez brewing is basically perfection in terms of pils/lagers/helles... I love the Silver Branch pils. I've liked the Other Half pilsners (but like you said, they're pricey so you might as well buy from the store). Rothaus pils is delicious. Kurispiboi from The Answer is yummy too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 11, 2020, 08:28:59 pm
Quote from: Side-Seditionist ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2020, 02:33:28 pm
Give me 3 craft pils/lagers that are must haves

Pivo Pils from FW, when fresh, is pretty much perfection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 11, 2020, 08:34:00 pm
Do dark lagers count? Empyryeal Radiance from Elder Pine is really really good. Though it may have been a one off.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 11, 2020, 08:35:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2020, 02:53:20 pm
Quote from: Con-bono-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2020, 02:33:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2020, 02:00:59 pm
At this point though, I feel like haze is all the same beer...


Give me 3 craft pils/lagers that are must haves

I don't think I've bought any haze other than Other Half for close to a year other than a few nice friends/mulers that have supplied me with some misc cans from the NE.

Anything from Suarez brewing is basically perfection in terms of pils/lagers/helles... I love the Silver Branch pils. I've liked the Other Half pilsners (but like you said, they're pricey so you might as well buy from the store). Rothaus pils is delicious. Kurispiboi from The Answer is yummy too.

If I ask about Suarez being available at Downtown Crown and you say No, will it show up three days later?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 11, 2020, 10:08:02 pm
Quote from: Side-Seditionist ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2020, 01:18:08 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 11, 2020, 12:44:54 pm
Damn. Love me some Foam.
had any of these?
(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmcusercontent.com%2Fbe20bbfba341582993786f7f0%2Fimages%2Fe52a66a1-b2d9-469c-a3bf-5e4155ae56e1.jpeg&t=1607707030&ymreqid=0131edb9-7abf-ec00-1c37-860004015200&sig=oIdSl4Y1U7F_Bq15hLZbfg--~D)

Not a one. Been a few years since I’ve been up there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 14, 2020, 05:03:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 11, 2020, 08:35:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2020, 02:53:20 pm
Quote from: Con-bono-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2020, 02:33:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 11, 2020, 02:00:59 pm
At this point though, I feel like haze is all the same beer...


Give me 3 craft pils/lagers that are must haves

I don't think I've bought any haze other than Other Half for close to a year other than a few nice friends/mulers that have supplied me with some misc cans from the NE.

Anything from Suarez brewing is basically perfection in terms of pils/lagers/helles... I love the Silver Branch pils. I've liked the Other Half pilsners (but like you said, they're pricey so you might as well buy from the store). Rothaus pils is delicious. Kurispiboi from The Answer is yummy too.

If I ask about Suarez being available at Downtown Crown and you say No, will it show up three days later?

Definitely not... But speaking of downtown crown, they had 37 other half options this weekend. Lol
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 14, 2020, 05:21:00 pm
Did they get huge shipments last week or is the honeymoon already over?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 14, 2020, 05:28:36 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 14, 2020, 05:21:00 pm
Did they get huge shipments last week or is the honeymoon already over?

I think a combination of multiple factors... They're still getting NYC beer shipped down here + from what I can tell, OHDC sales appear to be crappy and they're sending their beer north + other stores starting to also have other half cans which takes away the lure of needing to get DTC + how much haze can one consume.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 14, 2020, 05:32:21 pm
will they get VA distro...
I'm not driving to Gaithersburg, even if it is the “Science Capital of the United States.”
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 14, 2020, 05:51:38 pm
Astrolab just expanded their delivery zone to...most of Montgomery County!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 14, 2020, 06:50:18 pm
Quote from: Side-Seditionist ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 14, 2020, 05:32:21 pm
will they get VA distro...
I'm not driving to Gaithersburg, even if it is the “Science Capital of the United States.”

Gaithersburg might suck but DTC is literally right off 270.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 14, 2020, 06:50:40 pm
Quote from: Side-Seditionist ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 14, 2020, 05:32:21 pm
will they get VA distro...
I'm not driving to Gaithersburg, even if it is the “Science Capital of the United States.”

Drive to the brewery in DC then.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 15, 2020, 08:33:04 pm
from Sapwood's FB:

Our last can release of the year is this Saturday, so we wanted to make it special! We'll have the "Max" version of Snip Snap (9.3% ABV with extra hops in the kettle and dry hop). We'll also have Cheater Hops #15 a 7.1% IPA with Strata, Simcoe, and Mosaic! Pre-sales for the Snip Snap Max/Cheater Hops #15 Can Release (https://www.facebook.com/events/847917815965886/) will start Friday afternoon. Both beers will also be on tap starting Friday if you want to sample them and miss the rush!


(if someone could pick up a 4-pack of the SS Max and CH#15 and ship them to me, that would be greeeeeeeat...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 15, 2020, 10:59:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 14, 2020, 06:50:40 pm

Drive to the brewery in DC then.
Didn’t even know that was an option until today
Okie st? 
Is that by city winery?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 15, 2020, 11:49:29 pm
Quote from: Dr. Sidehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 15, 2020, 10:59:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 14, 2020, 06:50:40 pm

Drive to the brewery in DC then.
Didn’t even know that was an option until today
Okie st? 
Is that by city winery?

You are aware Other Half opened a DC brewery/location, correct?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2020, 08:34:12 am
Quote from: Yada on December 15, 2020, 11:49:29 pm
Quote from: Dr. Sidehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 15, 2020, 10:59:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 14, 2020, 06:50:40 pm

Drive to the brewery in DC then.
Didn’t even know that was an option until today
Okie st? 
Is that by city winery?

You are aware Other Half opened a DC brewery/location, correct?
Pretty much what I just said
But ya know the pandemic is going on so haven’t had my finger on the pulse of breweries openings
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 16, 2020, 08:47:46 am
Quote from: Dr. Sidehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2020, 08:34:12 am
Quote from: Yada on December 15, 2020, 11:49:29 pm
Quote from: Dr. Sidehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 15, 2020, 10:59:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 14, 2020, 06:50:40 pm

Drive to the brewery in DC then.
Didn’t even know that was an option until today
Okie st? 
Is that by city winery?

You are aware Other Half opened a DC brewery/location, correct?
Pretty much what I just said
But ya know the pandemic is going on so haven’t had my finger on the pulse of breweries openings

Apologies sidefoam, go have your coffee
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 08:56:10 am
Quote from: Dr. Sidehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2020, 08:34:12 am
Quote from: Yada on December 15, 2020, 11:49:29 pm
Quote from: Dr. Sidehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 15, 2020, 10:59:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 14, 2020, 06:50:40 pm

Drive to the brewery in DC then.
Didn’t even know that was an option until today
Okie st? 
Is that by city winery?

You are aware Other Half opened a DC brewery/location, correct?
Pretty much what I just said
But ya know the pandemic is going on so haven’t had my finger on the pulse of breweries openings

If your parole papers stipulate that you can't leave Virginia, OHDC has been shipping to Dominion in Falls Church. But they're only shipping their i(allegedly) inferior DC beers. Nothing from BKN or FLX. You'll have to drive to DTC for those ((Not sure, OHDC may have cans from their other breweries, but they didn't have the specific ones in wanted the one time I checked, necessitating a drive to Gaithersburg.

Also, DTC gets a number of other good breweries that don't ship to VA....Fourscore, Sapwood, Elder Pine, etc, and oddly more frequent shippings from the Veil and Triple Crossing than anyone else gets.

Are there any other stores in the DMV getting Other Half BKN and FLX cans? Maybe Churchkey?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 16, 2020, 09:20:21 am
Sidefoam didn't even know the biggest brewery opening on the east coast happened a few miles from his house, I doubt he's following the nuances of where different cans of haze from different locations of said brewery are being shipped*

*I doubt anyone is doing that except you space.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 09:31:32 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 09:20:21 am
Sidefoam didn't even know the biggest brewery opening on the east coast happened a few miles from his house, I doubt he's following the nuances of where different cans of haze from different locations of said brewery are being shipped*

*I doubt anyone is doing that except you space.

Maybe not anyone else on this board, but i think you vastly underestimate the beer geekiness of some people in the DMV.

I'm just aware of said fact because though they are owned by the same people, DTC gets a much more interesting and wider array of beer than Dominion. Other than those two stores, I don't follow the DMV beer distribution details.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2020, 09:34:04 am
I know this may come as a shock to you but this is about the only place I get beer news
I don’t recall anyone mentioning that other half was opening a brewery in dc

For the record for me it’s probably about the same round trip time to go to DTC vs OHDC
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2020, 09:39:21 am
I am shocked at how far space drives to get beer, especially since I thought his fridge was overflowing with the best of the best and he only drinks one can a day?

Do we have to factor mileage in to the space value pre oz calculations
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 10:01:34 am
Quote from: Dr. Sidehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2020, 09:39:21 am
I am shocked at how far space drives to get beer, especially since I thought his fridge was overflowing with the best of the best and he only drinks one can a day?

Do we have to factor mileage in to the space value pre oz calculations

In case you haven't figured it out, I'm not really "cheap" when it comes to buying beer. If i were, I'd be drinking Celebration by the case like my brother, Stella by the case like my co-worker, or Yuengling by the case like Hutch.

I never buy more than a four pack of any beer, I just like to try as many as possible. So two (different) four packs a week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 16, 2020, 10:03:42 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 15, 2020, 08:33:04 pm
from Sapwood's FB:

Our last can release of the year is this Saturday, so we wanted to make it special! We'll have the "Max" version of Snip Snap (9.3% ABV with extra hops in the kettle and dry hop). We'll also have Cheater Hops #15 a 7.1% IPA with Strata, Simcoe, and Mosaic! Pre-sales for the Snip Snap Max/Cheater Hops #15 Can Release (https://www.facebook.com/events/847917815965886/) will start Friday afternoon.

Just has Cheater #14 last week. Regular Snip Snap is delish. Very tempting but I don’t really need more cans at the moment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 16, 2020, 10:04:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 09:31:32 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 09:20:21 am
Sidefoam didn't even know the biggest brewery opening on the east coast happened a few miles from his house, I doubt he's following the nuances of where different cans of haze from different locations of said brewery are being shipped*

*I doubt anyone is doing that except you space.

Maybe not anyone else on this board, but i think you vastly underestimate the beer geekiness of some people in the DMV.

I'm just aware of said fact because though they are owned by the same people, DTC gets a much more interesting and wider array of beer than Dominion. Other than those two stores, I don't follow the DMV beer distribution details.

I was referring to people following which other half location the haze is coming from.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 16, 2020, 10:05:37 am
Quote from: Dr. Sidehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2020, 09:39:21 am
I am shocked at how far space drives to get beer, especially since I thought his fridge was overflowing with the best of the best and he only drinks one can a day?

Do we have to factor mileage in to the space value pre oz calculations

I think that was taken into account in the original space cost ratio circa 2016.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 16, 2020, 10:08:45 am
So OH DC is considered inferior to NY? Where can one read about this? BA?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 10:11:47 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 10:04:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 09:31:32 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 09:20:21 am
Sidefoam didn't even know the biggest brewery opening on the east coast happened a few miles from his house, I doubt he's following the nuances of where different cans of haze from different locations of said brewery are being shipped*

*I doubt anyone is doing that except you space.

Maybe not anyone else on this board, but i think you vastly underestimate the beer geekiness of some people in the DMV.

I'm just aware of said fact because though they are owned by the same people, DTC gets a much more interesting and wider array of beer than Dominion. Other than those two stores, I don't follow the DMV beer distribution details.

I was referring to people following which other half location the haze is coming from.

Both DTC and Dominion note in their Facebook posts which brewery the drop is coming from.

People on Beer Advocate forums seem to be complaining about the crappiness of the OHDC beer (you yourself did!), so if the store is posting where the beer is coming from, I'd assume their FB users would be taking note. And if they're picky, avoiding the "crappy" DC stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 10:13:55 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 16, 2020, 10:08:45 am
So OH DC is considered inferior to NY? Where can one read about this? BA?

This is a post by Brennser , who used to grace us with his presence on this board, on the BA Forum:


I realize it can be awkward when brewery folks are on a thread and honestly in the grand scheme of things my opinion doesn't matter......

......but I've not been impressed so far having had about 6-8 of their beers so far. The loaded baked potato was undrinkable and an instant drain pour and several others have been way too oniony on the nose for my liking. Regardless of the name and hype the reality is they have to dial it in like anyone else and I look forward to seeing what they do over the next 12 months and hopefully hanging out more at the brewery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 16, 2020, 10:17:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 10:11:47 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 10:04:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 09:31:32 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 09:20:21 am
Sidefoam didn't even know the biggest brewery opening on the east coast happened a few miles from his house, I doubt he's following the nuances of where different cans of haze from different locations of said brewery are being shipped*

*I doubt anyone is doing that except you space.

Maybe not anyone else on this board, but i think you vastly underestimate the beer geekiness of some people in the DMV.

I'm just aware of said fact because though they are owned by the same people, DTC gets a much more interesting and wider array of beer than Dominion. Other than those two stores, I don't follow the DMV beer distribution details.

I was referring to people following which other half location the haze is coming from.

Both DTC and Dominion note in their Facebook posts which brewery the drop is coming from.

People on Beer Advocate forums seem to be complaining about the crappiness of the OHDC beer (you yourself did!), so if the store is posting where the beer is coming from, I'd assume their FB users would be taking note. And if they're picky, avoiding the "crappy" DC stuff.

I have not complained about OHDC beer as I've not had any.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 10:30:49 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 10:17:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 10:11:47 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 10:04:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 09:31:32 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 09:20:21 am
Sidefoam didn't even know the biggest brewery opening on the east coast happened a few miles from his house, I doubt he's following the nuances of where different cans of haze from different locations of said brewery are being shipped*

*I doubt anyone is doing that except you space.

Maybe not anyone else on this board, but i think you vastly underestimate the beer geekiness of some people in the DMV.

I'm just aware of said fact because though they are owned by the same people, DTC gets a much more interesting and wider array of beer than Dominion. Other than those two stores, I don't follow the DMV beer distribution details.

I was referring to people following which other half location the haze is coming from.

Both DTC and Dominion note in their Facebook posts which brewery the drop is coming from.

People on Beer Advocate forums seem to be complaining about the crappiness of the OHDC beer (you yourself did!), so if the store is posting where the beer is coming from, I'd assume their FB users would be taking note. And if they're picky, avoiding the "crappy" DC stuff.

I have not complained about OHDC beer as I've not had any.

Sorry, I recalled you using the word "crappy" but looks like it was in reference to sales, not quality.


I think a combination of multiple factors... They're still getting NYC beer shipped down here + from what I can tell, OHDC sales appear to be crappy and they're sending their beer north + other stores starting to also have other half cans which takes away the lure of needing to get DTC + how much haze can one consume.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 16, 2020, 04:52:34 pm
I'm still here everyone  8)

And still unimpressed w OHDC but also unimpressed w vast majority of IPAs these days - a buddy in CA keeps sending me Monkish and Fieldwork and most of them are crap

HF on the other hand.......sublime

Quote from: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 10:13:55 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 16, 2020, 10:08:45 am
So OH DC is considered inferior to NY? Where can one read about this? BA?

This is a post by Brennser , who used to grace us with his presence on this board, on the BA Forum:


I realize it can be awkward when brewery folks are on a thread and honestly in the grand scheme of things my opinion doesn't matter......

......but I've not been impressed so far having had about 6-8 of their beers so far. The loaded baked potato was undrinkable and an instant drain pour and several others have been way too oniony on the nose for my liking. Regardless of the name and hype the reality is they have to dial it in like anyone else and I look forward to seeing what they do over the next 12 months and hopefully hanging out more at the brewery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2020, 04:58:12 pm
Quote from: brennser on December 16, 2020, 04:52:34 pm
HF on the other hand.......sublime

what is HF?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 16, 2020, 05:00:44 pm
Hill Farmstead
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 05:09:53 pm
Hey Brennser! Hope you're well.

My Other Half fanboy status has sort of died since tasting my first Tree House in August. I'm not sure what I going to do once the Tree House runs out. Even at four months old what i have left tastes better than fresh Other Half.

I can't argue against Hill Farmstead. Aside from maybe having it on draft a few years ago io a visit to NYC, I haven't had any for a good 10  years. :( Was Churchkey getting any of their hoppy stuff before the pandemic, or just the (great) saisons?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 16, 2020, 05:13:53 pm
Hey Space

I'm good - and hope you are yours are too.

TH is great but even some TH beers I've had this year have not rocked my world. Some have been excellent though. From March until about June I thought the OH drops at DTC were mostly killer but either my palate became jaded or something else happened.

I've been fortunate to access a lot of different canned HF IPAs this year and they are simply heaven in a glass. Shaun really is head and shoulders above everyone else in terms of brewing - its just a pity its 10 hours away w the last 30 mins on dirt roads. Kinda surprised VT has not been a destination for one of the Freely families beer / hiking trips.

Happy Holidays all
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 17, 2020, 12:02:02 am
Legends never die.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 17, 2020, 09:56:55 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 16, 2020, 09:31:32 am
Quote from: Yada on December 16, 2020, 09:20:21 am
Sidefoam didn't even know the biggest brewery opening on the east coast happened a few miles from his house, I doubt he's following the nuances of where different cans of haze from different locations of said brewery are being shipped*

*I doubt anyone is doing that except you space.

Maybe not anyone else on this board, but i think you vastly underestimate the beer geekiness of some people in the DMV.

I'm just aware of said fact because though they are owned by the same people, DTC gets a much more interesting and wider array of beer than Dominion. Other than those two stores, I don't follow the DMV beer distribution details.

DTC getting a shipment of 17 Veil beers today. Dominion getting a shipment of Deschutes Red Chair Pale Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 17, 2020, 09:58:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 12, 2020, 03:19:13 pm
I actually went to their upstate location in July. Great place. Everything was outdoors and distanced. They only had three taps going and were selling mostly cans for onsite consumption.

I don't think the Brooklyn taproom is open. I wonder if this one will really open in October. I'd be fine with just grabbing cans at Downtown Crown indefinitely.

Copied from Beer Advocate:

Award-Winning Brooklyn-Based Brewery Plans Taproom & Production Facility

Brooklyn, NY (August 12, 2020) – Other Half Brewing co-founders Andrew Burman, Matt Monahan and Sam Richardson are thrilled to announce the October 2020 opening of the brewery’s Ivy City taproom & production facility at 1401 Okie Street NE, Washington, DC, 20002, in the former Pappas Tomato Factory building.

Other Half Brewing will help anchor the new Ivy City retail center neighboring the Hecht Warehouse with a 22,000-square foot production facility and taproom, including a 7,500-square foot outdoor patio with covered pavilion and roof deck and 5,000-square foot indoor tasting and taproom.

Other Half is scheduled to start brewing beer on-site in late September, with initial plans to offer curbside pick-up and delivery. The taproom will offer 20 lines of Other Half beer on draft, as well as limited collaborations from brewers and vintners from around the country and world. In addition, the brewery program will focus on award-winning hazy IPAs, lagers and barrel-aged stouts, as well as special release, limited-edition collaboration beers with eye-catching label art.

“Andrew and I grew up in the D.C. area, and we are honored to open a brewery in our hometown and join the Beltway’s amazing beer scene,” says co-founder Matt Monahan. “We’ve long admired D.C.’s dynamic brewing community and look forward to sharing our beers with guests and to collaborating with some of the world’s best brewers who call D.C. home,” says co-founder Andrew Burman.

“This is the first brewery we built to meet all our specific needs from the start,” says co-founder Sam Richardson. “We’re excited to bring our IPAs – what Other Half is known for – to D.C., but with this purpose-built brewery, we will be able to develop a more robust, barrel-aged Imperial Stout and barley wine program and the larger tanks will allow us to brew more lagers.”

Reposting this for those who missed it the first time!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 17, 2020, 03:27:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 17, 2020, 09:56:55 am
DTC getting a shipment of 17 Veil beers today. Dominion getting a shipment of Deschutes Red Chair Pale Ale.

17 is quite the haul.  Had to grab a few.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:25:08 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 17, 2020, 03:27:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 17, 2020, 09:56:55 am
DTC getting a shipment of 17 Veil beers today. Dominion getting a shipment of Deschutes Red Chair Pale Ale.

17 is quite the haul.  Had to grab a few.

My ex ex ex ex girlfriend from the early 2000's mom used to be the GM at Deschutes. She used to ship mirror pond pale ale here to us and I thought it was the best thing ever.

Also, may I be the first to recommend the four packs of BA Ten Fidy... maybe the best shelfie BA stout around and even at a nice $pace price point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 17, 2020, 04:29:00 pm
Quote from: brennser on December 16, 2020, 05:13:53 pm
I've been fortunate to access a lot of different canned HF IPAs this year and they are simply heaven in a glass. Shaun really is head and shoulders above everyone else in terms of brewing

heya brennser - nice to hear from you, glad all is well!

last time i had HF was on your back porch, i believe... despite having been to VT many times after that, never made it up to greensboro... my loss.

have you tried sapwood recently?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:33:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 17, 2020, 04:29:00 pm
Quote from: brennser on December 16, 2020, 05:13:53 pm
I've been fortunate to access a lot of different canned HF IPAs this year and they are simply heaven in a glass. Shaun really is head and shoulders above everyone else in terms of brewing

heya brennser - nice to hear from you, glad all is well!

last time i had HF was on your back porch, i believe... despite having been to VT many times after that, never made it up to greensboro... my loss.

have you tried sapwood recently?

our ole friend brennser is who I split the membership with... I think his critique of Sapwood would probably mirror mine, or maybe even be a bit more harsh in terms of their bottle program.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 17, 2020, 04:37:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:25:08 pm
four packs of BA Ten Fidy... maybe the best shelfie BA stout around and even at a nice $pace price point.
$20 for 4 pack of 12 oz'ers ...that seems off on the $pace Pricing calculator?
but always looking for beers that people like...that you can actually buy, most of your recommendations you need high friends in low places
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:41:59 pm
Quote from: Solorigate-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 17, 2020, 04:37:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:25:08 pm
four packs of BA Ten Fidy... maybe the best shelfie BA stout around and even at a nice $pace price point.
$20 for 4 pack of 12 oz'ers ...that seems off on the $pace Pricing calculator?
but always looking for beers that people like...that you can actually buy, most of your recommendations you need high friends in low places

Consider a bottle of BCBS which is 16.9oz and costs roughly $12.99 to $15.99 a bottle depending on where you buy it. This is $20 for 48oz and is good as or better than said BCBS. I didn't say it was cheap, but in terms of price per ounce/style, it fits the $pace mold.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 17, 2020, 04:44:08 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:25:08 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on December 17, 2020, 03:27:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on December 17, 2020, 09:56:55 am
DTC getting a shipment of 17 Veil beers today. Dominion getting a shipment of Deschutes Red Chair Pale Ale.

17 is quite the haul.  Had to grab a few.

My ex ex ex ex girlfriend from the early 2000's mom used to be the GM at Deschutes. She used to ship mirror pond pale ale here to us and I thought it was the best thing ever.

Also, may I be the first to recommend the four packs of BA Ten Fidy... maybe the best shelfie BA stout around and even at a nice $pace price point.

My brother moved from Seattle to Ithaca a few years ago. When he comes here to visit me, he passes up all of my local and regional beer recommendations and instead grabs a sixer of Mirror Pond to take home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 17, 2020, 04:47:34 pm
Quote from: Solorigate-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 17, 2020, 04:37:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:25:08 pm
four packs of BA Ten Fidy... maybe the best shelfie BA stout around and even at a nice $pace price point.
$20 for 4 pack of 12 oz'ers ...that seems off on the $pace Pricing calculator?

$20 for (4 x 12oz) = 0.41667/oz

vs. BCBS:
$13 for 16oz = $0.8125/oz

although it doesn't beat KBS, which is currently $18 at Total Wine (also where i got that BCBS price).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 17, 2020, 04:49:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:41:59 pm
Quote from: Solorigate-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 17, 2020, 04:37:18 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:25:08 pm
four packs of BA Ten Fidy... maybe the best shelfie BA stout around and even at a nice $pace price point.
$20 for 4 pack of 12 oz'ers ...that seems off on the $pace Pricing calculator?
but always looking for beers that people like...that you can actually buy, most of your recommendations you need high friends in low places

Consider a bottle of BCBS which is 16.9oz and costs roughly $12.99 to $15.99 a bottle depending on where you buy it. This is $20 for 48oz and is good as or better than said BCBS. I didn't say it was cheap, but in terms of price per ounce/style, it fits the $pace mold.

Would you you believe I have a couple of BA Ten Fidy cans from last year sitting in the cellar? Great beer at a good price.

Contrast that with Lagunitas Willetized, which is also out now. Good beer at a great price. BBA Biggie Smores, also out now, fits that description as well. I picked up a four pack of each of those.

Don't forget, regular KBS is going for about $17 a four pack now, too,

I did buy one bottle of regular BCBS, just because.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on December 17, 2020, 05:02:01 pm
The Sapwood club membership has to be one of my most disappointing decisions in craft beer. We naively thought we were gonna end up w some DeGarde like product in Columbia based on the type and pedigree of the owner. We've had a bunch of their sours and they have all been very meh with really weird adjuncts - stag horn sumac?!

So yeah that membership is getting cancelled.

I have enjoyed some of their hazy IPAs from time to time

Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:33:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 17, 2020, 04:29:00 pm
Quote from: brennser on December 16, 2020, 05:13:53 pm
I've been fortunate to access a lot of different canned HF IPAs this year and they are simply heaven in a glass. Shaun really is head and shoulders above everyone else in terms of brewing

heya brennser - nice to hear from you, glad all is well!

last time i had HF was on your back porch, i believe... despite having been to VT many times after that, never made it up to greensboro... my loss.

have you tried sapwood recently?

our ole friend brennser is who I split the membership with... I think his critique of Sapwood would probably mirror mine, or maybe even be a bit more harsh in terms of their bottle program.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 17, 2020, 05:04:48 pm
ouch...that was a harsh review
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 17, 2020, 05:22:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 17, 2020, 04:25:08 pm
My ex ex ex ex girlfriend from the early 2000's 

I really feel like you buried the lede here.  You dated someone, then broke up with her, then dated her, then broke up with her, then dated her, then broke up with her, then dated her, then broke up with her...even though she was sending you the best beer you've ever had?  I mean, breaking up would be a hard sell for me too, but something must have been the final straw...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 17, 2020, 05:24:14 pm
yeah, but Stacy's mom has got it going on (and had the good beer)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2021, 10:22:17 pm
sweetcell favorite 3 Stars bounces co-founder/mascot Dave out the door.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 05, 2021, 05:24:28 pm
huh.  any idea what went down?  the google machine isn't yielding any answers...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2021, 05:21:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 05, 2021, 05:24:28 pm
huh.  any idea what went down?  the google machine isn't yielding any answers...

My assumption is his business partner(s)/investors opinion of him finally matched up with the public.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 11, 2021, 12:29:35 pm
I hope some of you Virgina fellas participated.

https://hillfarmstead.com/pa-and-va-home-delivery-offer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2021, 12:41:34 pm
Expensive...but I would have been all over that if I lived across the Potomac.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 11, 2021, 12:43:02 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2021, 12:41:34 pm
Expensive...but I would have been all over that if I lived across the Potomac.

Definitely not $pace friendly, but they've put in some really nice bottles and not just their typical shelfies. Other than paying for the shipping, there's no mark up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 12:52:09 pm
“Atlas rolls out Amtrak Joe Pilsner and Madam Veep’s IPA ahead of Inauguration” https://popville.com/2021/01/atlas-brew-works-amtrak-joe-pilsner-madam-veeps-ipa-beer/


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErdzIuIXEAAtIzJ?format=png&name=small)


Womp, womp...already sold out :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 11, 2021, 01:00:03 pm
Also sold out, 7 Locks Surrender Don beer and glassware
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 01:01:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 11, 2021, 12:43:02 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2021, 12:41:34 pm
Expensive...but I would have been all over that if I lived across the Potomac.

Definitely not $pace friendly, but they've put in some really nice bottles and not just their typical shelfies. Other than paying for the shipping, there's no mark up.
jez...6 bottles for  $135 plus processing, handling, and shipping....so would that come to about $160 when all is said and done
fuck that, I'd at least want a reach around for that kind of fucking
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 11, 2021, 01:19:06 pm
Quote from: Incitement -hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 01:01:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 11, 2021, 12:43:02 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 11, 2021, 12:41:34 pm
Expensive...but I would have been all over that if I lived across the Potomac.

Definitely not $pace friendly, but they've put in some really nice bottles and not just their typical shelfies. Other than paying for the shipping, there's no mark up.
jez...6 bottles for  $135 plus processing, handling, and shipping....so would that come to about $160 when all is said and done
fuck that, I'd at least want a reach around for that kind of fucking

Enjoy your port city beers brah
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 01:34:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 11, 2021, 01:19:06 pm

Enjoy your port city beers brah
Yeah glad to hear the Yada household is just swimming in $$ to justify less than a 12 pack of beer for $160
I don't care how good it is, will never pay that much for beer...
but you are pretty cool brah
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 11, 2021, 01:45:06 pm
Quote from: Incitement -hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 01:34:06 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 11, 2021, 01:19:06 pm

Enjoy your port city beers brah
Yeah glad to hear the Yada household is just swimming in $$ to justify less than a 12 pack of beer for $160
I don't care how good it is, will never pay that much for beer...
but you are pretty cool brah

You'd think with all the savings from your refi you'd have a little extra coin lying around.

Take off your Jabra ear piece and do a lap around the house while you cool down, brah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 01:49:53 pm
like I'd just blow it on a 6 pack of beer or a weekend getaway to see phish in Mexico, sorry dude

and I have the Bluetooth headset version of Jabra and can run around the house with it on and even go to the kitchen and get a cup of joe while in a meeting
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 11, 2021, 01:52:14 pm
Quote from: Incitement -hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 01:49:53 pm
like I'd just blow it on a 6 pack of beer or a weekend getaway to see phish in Mexico, sorry dude

and I have the Bluetooth headset version of Jabra and can run around the house with it on and even go to the kitchen and get a cup of joe while in a meeting

Ohhhh... the low blows are coming out now!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 01:53:25 pm
well let me find my post-it note with all the incriminating evidence I've been saving for this very moment!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 11, 2021, 01:55:40 pm
Quote from: Incitement -hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 01:53:25 pm
well let me find my post-it note with all the incriminating evidence I've been saving for this very moment!

Hey sideschwill, really sorry for making a post about the best brewery in the country shipping beer to VA. You're the one always complaining about not having access to good beer, I'll ensure to never do it again. Also, not sure where I said I bought it since the Yada's are doing so well in hog heaven. Now get back to your RV and or boat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 02:24:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 11, 2021, 01:55:40 pm
or boat.
I got the boat and the trailer for less than 2 shipments of the best beer in the world
(ok, probably 3.5 shipments for registration/insurance and some lights)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 11, 2021, 02:55:23 pm
Quote from: Incitement -hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 02:24:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 11, 2021, 01:55:40 pm
or boat.
I got the boat and the trailer for less than 2 shipments of the best beer in the world

Sounds like the beer would be a better investment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 04:11:58 pm
that boat has given me WAAY more pleasure than any 6 pack of overpriced beer could
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 11, 2021, 04:22:44 pm
Quote from: Incitement -hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 04:11:58 pm
that boat has given me WAAY more pleasure than any 6 pack of overpriced beer could

Wait. You have a boat?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 04:24:12 pm
It floats and I had to register it...but calling it a full-fledged boat might be a stretch even for me ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 11, 2021, 04:40:11 pm
Quote from: Incitement -hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 04:11:58 pm
that boat has given me WAAY more pleasure than any 6 pack of overpriced beer could

Who knew you were so sensitive regarding beer prices.

Ladies and gents, the new $pace!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 11, 2021, 06:49:37 pm
^ BURN
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 12, 2021, 02:48:31 pm
Can we get the Mayor of Money, the Connoisseur of Coin, the Deputy of Duckets to chime in on this?

The silence is deafening which leads me to believe he may have attempted to secure this very over priced yet not even similar and in some ways closer to a high end wine than to other six packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 12, 2021, 02:53:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 12, 2021, 02:48:31 pm
Can we get the Mayor of Money, the Connoisseur of Coin, the Deputy of Duckets to chime in on this?
This is a quality line.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 12, 2021, 02:55:35 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 12, 2021, 02:53:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 12, 2021, 02:48:31 pm
Can we get the Mayor of Money, the Connoisseur of Coin, the Deputy of Duckets to chime in on this?
This is a quality line.

(https://i.imgur.com/kf1C4GW.gif)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 12, 2021, 03:32:08 pm
Still cannot believe he's 80 years old.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 12, 2021, 03:44:22 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on January 12, 2021, 03:32:08 pm
Still cannot believe he's 80 years old.

I thought space was only 59?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 12, 2021, 04:09:47 pm
Looks great for his age!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 12, 2021, 04:19:44 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 12, 2021, 04:09:47 pm
Looks great for his age!

I had to look up who that guy was, but found it a tad ironic that it's a picture of a guy with water in his name in a beer thread. Oh well, water is the primary ingredient so maybe it fits.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 13, 2021, 11:14:39 am
Quote from: zero risk-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2021, 12:52:09 pm
“Atlas rolls out Amtrak Joe Pilsner and Madam Veep’s IPA ahead of Inauguration” https://popville.com/2021/01/atlas-brew-works-amtrak-joe-pilsner-madam-veeps-ipa-beer/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErdzIuIXEAAtIzJ?format=png&name=small)
Womp, womp...already sold out :(
Batch two up for sale today...https://occasionales.com/
won't be available until Feb though
they are also selling art prints of the label

Yes Yada, this beer probably sucks moose testicals, but this time it's definitely about the packaging
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 14, 2021, 11:00:57 am

Picked this up last night...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50833764567_31afbe537c_w.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 14, 2021, 11:44:15 am
Quote from: Panic-Button-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 13, 2021, 11:14:39 am

Batch two up for sale today...https://occasionales.com/
and is sold out now
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 09:12:40 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 10, 2020, 10:06:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 07, 2020, 10:00:07 pm
Sapwood doesn't send cans down here.

Another local coconut... I may grab this tomorrow, will report back.

https://www.silverbranchbrewing.com/product/endless-joy/

Two packs of Flaked and three other Sapwood canned beers currently available at DTC.

While some are on a sobriety run, I'm engaged in Project Phase 1c. I split a Flaked with my wife last night. I can report it was the best damn coconut stout I've ever had. Color me impressed, Sapwood.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 15, 2021, 09:24:33 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 09:12:40 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 10, 2020, 10:06:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on December 07, 2020, 10:00:07 pm
Sapwood doesn't send cans down here.

Another local coconut... I may grab this tomorrow, will report back.

https://www.silverbranchbrewing.com/product/endless-joy/

Two packs of Flaked and three other Sapwood canned beers currently available at DTC.

While some are on a sobriety run, I'm engaged in Project Phase 1c. I split a Flaked with my wife last night. I can report it was the best damn coconut stout I've ever had. Color me impressed, Sapwood.

But you could've purchased a 12 pack of sierra hazy little thing for the same price!!!!

#$ideSchwillLogic
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2021, 09:46:41 am
At $7  (https://sapwoodcellars.com/events/can-release-flaked-and-single-citrus-sorbet/)a can, I think I would have taken the plunge

Was at a random corner bodega in Cap Hill and they were selling 4 packs of Aslin Power Moves IPA for $11
They were very tasty and kinda shocked that it would be stocked in a place like this
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 15, 2021, 09:49:48 am
Can confirm that Flaked is pretty awesome.

Aslin for $11 per 4-pack??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 15, 2021, 10:26:20 am
Can anyone recall if Aslin ever dated their cans?

I noticed pre holidays that a random store in my hood had their cans sitting warm on a shelf and they had no dates on them... I'm assuming this is a distro move by Aslin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 10:30:14 am
Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 10:26:20 am
Can anyone recall if Aslin ever dated their cans?

I noticed pre holidays that a random store in my hood had their cans sitting warm on a shelf and they had no dates on them... I'm assuming this is a distro move by Aslin.

Pretty sure they never have.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 10:33:26 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 15, 2021, 09:49:48 am
Can confirm that Flaked is pretty awesome.

Aslin for $11 per 4-pack??

Which beer? edit: ah i see, above. They have a lager for $9/four pack.

I think I bought the That Shitz Slapz doppelbock $11/four. I thought it was very good. Not sure if I'm spelling it right. Stupid name, but very good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 15, 2021, 10:52:05 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 10:30:14 am
Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 10:26:20 am
Can anyone recall if Aslin ever dated their cans?

I noticed pre holidays that a random store in my hood had their cans sitting warm on a shelf and they had no dates on them... I'm assuming this is a distro move by Aslin.

Pretty sure they never have.

Gotcha... I guess it didn't matter when it was picking up at Herndon (the last time I bought Aslin beer), because you knew everything was typically brewed and canned in the last few weeks. These random stores in MoCo that have Aslin definitely have beern that is upwards of 6 months old.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2021, 10:55:40 am
Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 10:52:05 am
These random stores in MoCo that have Aslin definitely have beern that is upwards of 6 months old.
how are you determining that?
I know you want the freshest IPAs, but wouldn't the stouts and sours be fine if they were sitting for months?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 11:10:57 am
Quote from: Panic-Button-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2021, 10:55:40 am
Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 10:52:05 am
These random stores in MoCo that have Aslin definitely have beern that is upwards of 6 months old.
how are you determining that?
I know you want the freshest IPAs, but wouldn't the stouts and sours be fine if they were sitting for months?

IMO, the stouts, definitely or close. Probably same with the lagers. The (fruited) sours, maybe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 15, 2021, 01:22:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 11:10:57 am
Quote from: Panic-Button-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2021, 10:55:40 am
Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 10:52:05 am
These random stores in MoCo that have Aslin definitely have beern that is upwards of 6 months old.
how are you determining that?
I know you want the freshest IPAs, but wouldn't the stouts and sours be fine if they were sitting for months?

IMO, the stouts, definitely or close. Probably same with the lagers. The (fruited) sours, maybe.

Any of the beers these guys make these days loaded with lactose and whatever other fruit goop you don't want sitting warm on a shelf.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2021, 01:28:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 01:22:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 11:10:57 am

I know you want the freshest IPAs, but wouldn't the stouts and sours be fine if they were sitting for months?

Any of the beers these guys make these days loaded with lactose and whatever other fruit goop you don't want sitting warm on a shelf.
good to know...is that true of Stouts of any flavor?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 02:21:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 01:22:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 11:10:57 am
Quote from: Panic-Button-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2021, 10:55:40 am
Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 10:52:05 am
These random stores in MoCo that have Aslin definitely have beern that is upwards of 6 months old.
how are you determining that?
I know you want the freshest IPAs, but wouldn't the stouts and sours be fine if they were sitting for months?

IMO, the stouts, definitely or close. Probably same with the lagers. The (fruited) sours, maybe.

Any of the beers these guys make these days loaded with lactose and whatever other fruit goop you don't want sitting warm on a shelf.

The freshness thing doesn't matter as much to me when it comes to pastry stouts.  I have several Aslin stouts sitting warm in my cellar (which is actually pretty cold, so probably low 60's)...next time they release one that matches, I'll buy fresh and compare the two. Two pastry stouts closer to getting my vaccine.

edit: That said, I do try to drink anything that falls in the "pastry stout" category within a year of purchase, usually within six months.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 15, 2021, 02:21:46 pm
Quote from: Panic-Button-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2021, 01:28:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 01:22:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 11:10:57 am

I know you want the freshest IPAs, but wouldn't the stouts and sours be fine if they were sitting for months?

Any of the beers these guys make these days loaded with lactose and whatever other fruit goop you don't want sitting warm on a shelf.
good to know...is that true of Stouts of any flavor?

None of these pastry stouts get better with age and actually most of the hype breweries specifically suggest not aging them... You'd need to head to the brewing thread for specific feedback on ingredients... But would you want to drink a four year old reese cup that's been sitting at the bottom of a can?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 15, 2021, 03:12:52 pm
Why would anyone store anything other than barrell aged stouts and the like?

Honest question. Those are the only things I store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 03:19:49 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 15, 2021, 03:12:52 pm
Why would anyone store anything other than barrell aged stouts and the like?

Honest question. Those are the only things I store.

Wild ales and lambics and such are also good for storing.



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 15, 2021, 03:40:01 pm
I've had good luck storing belgian tripels
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 15, 2021, 03:45:50 pm
Interesting. Good to know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 03:47:21 pm
My quad homebrew that i bottled maybe 10 months ago tastes much better now than when i bottled it. It was way too boozy to start but now tastes like i would hope it too. Again, like the aforementioned trippel, a high abv Belgian.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 15, 2021, 05:16:56 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 15, 2021, 03:12:52 pm
Why would anyone store anything other than barrell aged stouts and the like?

Honest question. Those are the only things I store.

In the stout category, it's really the only one that should be aged.

Lambics can be stored for 20+ years and continue to age gracefully.

Other high ABV beers like others have mentioned can be stored but I'm not a fan of any of those styles personally.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 16, 2021, 02:09:45 am
i started replying to every comment here, then lost most of my work, so here's the i'm-pissed-off-so-this-is-what-you-get retry:

stouts: only the big boys benefit from aging.  a 5-year old Guinness is going to taste like ass.  being barrel-aged isn't a prerequisite for aging.

lagers: drink fresh, they won't improve with age and you risk oxidation.  part of making a lager is to age the beer, cold, for several weeks/months to clarify it.  once that is achieved, there is little additional benefit to aging, vs. risk of oxidation (AKA ruining it).

sours: assuming the beer isn't pasteurized (Rodenbach, most Lindemann, most New Belgiums, etc.) they can be aged almost indefinitely.  the bugs in the beer, particularly brett, will protect the beer.  after several decades you might start encountering issues.

fruited sours: personally, i prefer them fresh.  the taste of the fruit will change over time: it'll become more muted, more incorporated into the overall beer.  some folks like this flavor, personally i like the fruit to pop out.  YMMV.

Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 01:22:55 pm
Any of the beers these guys make these days loaded with lactose and whatever other fruit goop you don't want sitting warm on a shelf.

lactose: isn't fermentable by brewers yeast, so doesn't affect shelf stability - assuming the beer was made by someone who can keep contamination at bay.  there are wild critters that can ferment lactose but that shouldn't be a concern with commercial beer.  homebrew on the other hand can be iffy.  much harder to be bug-free on the residential level.

fruit goop: for 99% of fruited beer, the goop is added during fermentation so all sugars are consumed.  fruit doesn't affect shelf stability.  HOWEVER, some yahoos like to add fruit at packaging - notably some milkshake IPA makers.  these beers will (or certainly should) come with a warning: KEEP COLD AND DRINK ASAP.  as long as the beer is in a fridge, the yeast should stay dormant and all is well.  if you suspect that a can of warm beer has fresh fruit in it (again, a rare thing given how dangerous it is), just give it a light squeeze while ensuring that your face isn't in the way of the top/opening since that's where it will fail: if the can is rock-hard, back away quickly and call the bomb squad.

Quote from: Yada on January 15, 2021, 02:21:46 pm
None of these pastry stouts get better with age

agreed. but they are more shelf-stable than the average beer, so no need to consume them like an IPA.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 15, 2021, 03:12:52 pm
Why would anyone store anything other than barrell aged stouts and the like?

Honest question. Those are the only things I store.
Quote from: Space Freely on January 15, 2021, 03:47:21 pm
My quad homebrew that i bottled maybe 10 months ago tastes much better now than when i bottled it. It was way too boozy to start but now tastes like i would hope it too. Again, like the aforementioned trippel, a high abv Belgian.

high-alcohol beer can be initially unpleasant (ever had a fresh Bigfoot?).  long story short: there are several types of "alcohol", one of the types is called fusel alcohol.  this is burn-your-throat rocket fuel stuff.  fermenting a beer too warm produces them (hello homebrewers!), and making a big beer = producing a lot of alcohol = some of it will be fusels, in quantities you can taste.  the good news is that fusels can, within a limit, "age out" - they chemically change to other alcohols that we find pleasant (or at least less offensive than fusels).  hence, letting a big beer age will make it smoother.

coda: there is such thing as letting a beer age too long, even a 15% barrel-aged imperial stout.  when i left DC i had a cellar-emptying party.  some great stuff was had that night, but about a quarter of the bottles were over-aged: oxidation had done more damage than aging had improved the beer.  a few beers that i had been looking forward to tasting for years were disappointments.  since then i've limited my cellar-stocking and try not to keep anything for more than 3 years (except for sours and meads).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 16, 2021, 08:52:59 am
Let's remember this discussion was about Aslin letting pastry, ipas, and fruit sludge cans sit on shelves in MoCo at 72 degrees for multiple months. This is not making any beer better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 16, 2021, 10:11:18 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 16, 2021, 02:09:45 am
coda: there is such thing as letting a beer age too long, even a 15% barrel-aged imperial stout.

Very true.  I've poured some expensive stuff down the drain so now I don't store but a handful of beers at a time. Not my thang.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 16, 2021, 11:14:41 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 16, 2021, 10:11:18 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 16, 2021, 02:09:45 am
coda: there is such thing as letting a beer age too long, even a 15% barrel-aged imperial stout.

Very true.  I've poured some expensive stuff down the drain so now I don't store but a handful of beers at a time. Not my thang.
Its not my thing, mostly because I drink it as I get it
can't seem to work on my 'beer saving' plan, instead I live beer-check to beer-check

Maybe there is no demand anymore for Aslin, but I've never seen cans sit for days let alone 6 months
I mean in DC/VA it really hasn't even started showing up on shelves until recently...although my time frame with covid is whacked, so maybe they have been there for 6 months, but that seems rare

I wonder if there is some 'overstock' distro guys who will buy these old cans from people and resell them at a discount to these bodegas and such
hardly seems like its worth the effort.
I do think after reading this that dating cans should be a standard in the craft community
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 16, 2021, 11:26:54 am
I always check for dates.

I think the worst of the beer geeks have moved on from Aslin and now consider it second rate. Sure, there's better competition but I wouldn't turn my nose up at them.

Same goes for the Veil and whatnot.  Just stupid.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 16, 2021, 11:31:52 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 16, 2021, 11:26:54 am
I always check for dates.

I think the worst of the beer geeks have moved on from Aslin and now consider it second rate. Sure, there's better competition but I wouldn't turn my nose up at them.

Same goes for the Veil and whatnot.  Just stupid.

agree
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 16, 2021, 11:36:49 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 16, 2021, 11:26:54 am
I always check for dates.

I think the worst of the beer geeks have moved on from Aslin and now consider it second rate. Sure, there's better competition but I wouldn't turn my nose up at them.

Same goes for the Veil and whatnot.  Just stupid.

I've just moved on from hazy beers, primarily due the waistline and when I do buy it, I go Other Half which is far superior and easier to get for this MoCo guy vs. Aslin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 16, 2021, 11:50:48 am
Quote from: Yada on January 16, 2021, 11:36:49 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 16, 2021, 11:26:54 am
I always check for dates.

I think the worst of the beer geeks have moved on from Aslin and now consider it second rate. Sure, there's better competition but I wouldn't turn my nose up at them.

Same goes for the Veil and whatnot.  Just stupid.

I've just moved on from hazy beers, primarily due the waistline and when I do buy it, I go Other Half which is far superior and easier to get for this MoCo guy vs. Aslin.

You said you're not drinking at al right now, but what diet beers do you recommend?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 16, 2021, 12:08:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 16, 2021, 11:50:48 am
Quote from: Yada on January 16, 2021, 11:36:49 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 16, 2021, 11:26:54 am
I always check for dates.

I think the worst of the beer geeks have moved on from Aslin and now consider it second rate. Sure, there's better competition but I wouldn't turn my nose up at them.

Same goes for the Veil and whatnot.  Just stupid.

I've just moved on from hazy beers, primarily due the waistline and when I do buy it, I go Other Half which is far superior and easier to get for this MoCo guy vs. Aslin.

You said you're not drinking at al right now, but what diet beers do you recommend?

Michelob Ultra
High Life
Stella
Rolling Rock
Silver Branch Glass Castle
Suarez
Rothaus Pils


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 16, 2021, 01:37:29 pm
High Life is great.  Problem is, after drinking DIPAs they tend to go down way too quickly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 22, 2021, 03:59:42 am
i have yet to taste a non-alcoholic beer that tastes like a proper beer, then again i've never tasted a craft version. 

Two local breweries are making craft beer without the buzz (https://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/best-nonalcoholic-beers/2021/01/20/b0e6f98c-5a95-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 22, 2021, 02:54:22 pm
in case anyone was wondering what they can pick/have delivered from Blue Jacket: https://mailchi.mp/bluejacketdc/fullymadfat-super
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2021, 05:20:13 pm
Thanks.  Hadn't even thought about them.  Ordered some.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2021, 05:40:35 pm
Stopped by the Other Half DC the other day to enjoy a beverage in their nice outdoor beer garden.
Excellent stuff...almost too much selection. Wish I didn't have to drive
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2021, 05:48:42 pm
Quote from: Diet Coke button ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2021, 05:40:35 pm
Stopped by the Other Half DC the other day to enjoy a beverage in their nice outdoor beer garden.
Excellent stuff...almost too much selection. Wish I didn't have to drive

Look at wealthy sidehalf buying $10 pints in a pandemic at a covid hotspot. You could've bought a case of beer for the cost of those pours!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2021, 06:09:06 pm
I want to say the 16 oz cans were $7, but after tax/tip...
I don't even think back in the 90s you could get a case of the beast for that

I will still stand by my statement that $160 is too much for a six pack of beer (yes some were 22oz)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:25:29 pm
Quote from: Diet Coke button ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2021, 06:09:06 pm
I want to say the 16 oz cans were $7, but after tax/tip...
I don't even think back in the 90s you could get a case of the beast for that

I will still stand by my statement that $160 is too much for a six pack of beer (yes some were 22oz)

Only 4 to 6 bucks a can of you take a four pack home and drink it safely there.

I did a pickup there and I must say it's the worst OH location of the three I've been to.... Finger Lakes being the clear winner ..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2021, 06:31:06 pm
Quote from: Diet Coke button ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2021, 06:09:06 pm
I want to say the 16 oz cans were $7, but after tax/tip...
I don't even think back in the 90s you could get a case of the beast for that

I will still stand by my statement that $160 is too much for a six pack of beer (yes some were 22oz)

And I'll stand by my statement that comparing those bottles to a regular six pack is uninformed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2021, 06:39:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:25:29 pm
Only 4 to 6 bucks a can of you take a four pack home and drink it safely there.

I did a pickup there and I must say it's the worst OH location of the three I've been to.... Finger Lakes being the clear winner ..

Worst but still nice? Worst and a complete dump?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2021, 06:43:01 pm
Oh, and I just spent $10 per can to have Bluejacket delivered to my house. Wouldn’t normally do that but it’s a pandemic and breweries/people are struggling. No regrets whatsoever.

I suppose if I deducted the time it would take to go get them myself then it’s not a bad deal at all. My time is not free, y’all’s mmv. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:47:59 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2021, 06:39:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:25:29 pm
Only 4 to 6 bucks a can of you take a four pack home and drink it safely there.

I did a pickup there and I must say it's the worst OH location of the three I've been to.... Finger Lakes being the clear winner ..

Worst but still nice? Worst and a complete dump?

Dumpy inconvenient part of town. Can't comment on the beer garden since I did curbside, though sidehutch gives it the thumbs up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2021, 07:10:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:47:59 pm
Dumpy inconvenient part of town.
yeah, Ivy city sucks, but it's not bad if you are coming in from MD

it's like two blocks from Atlas, but in that hip and trendy block with City Winery
If you were in that area after dark 30 years ago...would have been dramatically different, now it looks like Bethesda

Quote from: Yada on January 22, 2021, 06:31:06 pm
And I'll stand by my statement that comparing those bottles to a regular six pack is uninformed.
that is fair, but I like making the comparison for hyperbolic value

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2021, 06:43:01 pm
I suppose if I deducted the time it would take to go get them myself then it’s not a bad deal at all. My time is not free, y’all’s mmv.
I totally agree, that was always my argument for drycleaning
But my time is cheap now there is nothing to do
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 22, 2021, 07:14:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:47:59 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2021, 06:39:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:25:29 pm
Only 4 to 6 bucks a can of you take a four pack home and drink it safely there.

I did a pickup there and I must say it's the worst OH location of the three I've been to.... Finger Lakes being the clear winner ..

Worst but still nice? Worst and a complete dump?

Dumpy inconvenient part of town. Can't comment on the beer garden since I did curbside, though sidehutch gives it the thumbs up.

Almost like reviewing a concert you never attended.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 22, 2021, 07:48:03 pm
930 Forum:  I like making the comparison for hyperbolic value
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 08:47:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 22, 2021, 07:14:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:47:59 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2021, 06:39:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:25:29 pm
Only 4 to 6 bucks a can of you take a four pack home and drink it safely there.

I did a pickup there and I must say it's the worst OH location of the three I've been to.... Finger Lakes being the clear winner ..

Worst but still nice? Worst and a complete dump?

Dumpy inconvenient part of town. Can't comment on the beer garden since I did curbside, though sidehutch gives it the thumbs up.

Almost like reviewing a concert you never attended.

Not at all. I love the Finger Lakes place because of the beautiful country drive getting there. I like the original Brooklyn place because it was within walking distance of a nice area where we had a nice airbnb. The DC place is in Ivy City, just off New York Avenue, in a shitty area.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 23, 2021, 03:48:11 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 08:47:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 22, 2021, 07:14:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:47:59 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2021, 06:39:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:25:29 pm
Only 4 to 6 bucks a can of you take a four pack home and drink it safely there.

I did a pickup there and I must say it's the worst OH location of the three I've been to.... Finger Lakes being the clear winner ..

Worst but still nice? Worst and a complete dump?

Dumpy inconvenient part of town. Can't comment on the beer garden since I did curbside, though sidehutch gives it the thumbs up.

Almost like reviewing a concert you never attended.

Not at all. I love the Finger Lakes place because of the beautiful country drive getting there. I like the original Brooklyn place because it was within walking distance of a nice area where we had a nice airbnb. The DC place is in Ivy City, just off New York Avenue, in a shitty area.

I guess I misinterpreted your post, I didn't realize you were actually specifying location on a map. I thought you meant the over all description of the brewery/tap house. I for one can say it's MUCH better than the shithole Other Half location in BK without ever being at the one in DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 23, 2021, 04:23:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 23, 2021, 03:48:11 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 08:47:55 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 22, 2021, 07:14:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:47:59 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on January 22, 2021, 06:39:30 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 22, 2021, 06:25:29 pm
Only 4 to 6 bucks a can of you take a four pack home and drink it safely there.

I did a pickup there and I must say it's the worst OH location of the three I've been to.... Finger Lakes being the clear winner ..

Worst but still nice? Worst and a complete dump?

Dumpy inconvenient part of town. Can't comment on the beer garden since I did curbside, though sidehutch gives it the thumbs up.

Almost like reviewing a concert you never attended.

Not at all. I love the Finger Lakes place because of the beautiful country drive getting there. I like the original Brooklyn place because it was within walking distance of a nice area where we had a nice airbnb. The DC place is in Ivy City, just off New York Avenue, in a shitty area.

I guess I misinterpreted your post, I didn't realize you were actually specifying location on a map. I thought you meant the over all description of the brewery/tap house. I for one can say it's MUCH better than the shithole Other Half location in BK without ever being at the one in DC.

There are two locations in Brooklyn, and they did a makeover of the original location that made it into a much nicer place, imo. Not saying it's better than DC on the inside, but I'd say the makeover made it nicer.

I actually have only been to the FLX location during COVID, so only sat outside, which is pleasant. My brother vouches that it's nice on the inside.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2021, 04:17:49 pm
PSA for the session beer crowd - All Day summer seasonal upcoming:

All Day Vacay
You’re going to need a bigger suitcase – All Day Vacay has arrived. Take a well-earned respite from the mundane and let this session wheat ale whisk you away with its slight, summery sweetness – complimented by delicate notes of citrus. Whether it’s a staycay or vacay, it’s the perfect companion for any type of adventure. 4.6% ABV.

All Day Vacay will be available in 6 and 15-packs of 12oz cans and on draft nationally April through September.

(https://foundersbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/all_day_vacay_announce_landscape-1024x614.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 25, 2021, 04:32:52 pm
Odd choice for Session as aren't most Wheat beers kinda low in ABV to begin with?

I see founders had a Wheat that was 6.8%, but that not typical ...right?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 25, 2021, 04:50:22 pm
American wheat or rye beer should always be easy drinking and refreshing. This is a moderate alcohol beer (4 to 5.5% ABV) with medium-light to medium body and medium to high carbonation. Appearance ranges from straw to light gold and from clear to hazy.


I think Sweetcell may even be a bigger Founders fanboy than I am. Are we allowed to like the again?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2021, 05:02:52 pm
"session" usually means under 5% in the US, so technically this qualifies.  personally i would have thought they'd go lower, say under 4.5, to really hammer home the session aspect.  most american wheats are indeed at the lower end of the scale but not necessarily sessions: oberon is 5.8%, for example, while GI's 312 is only 4.2%.

Quote from: Space Freely on January 25, 2021, 04:50:22 pm
I think Sweetcell may even be a bigger Founders fanboy than I am. Are we allowed to like the again?

nah.  Founders is fine, but i only ever buy their bigger stuff (dug up a bottle of Better half not too long ago, yum).  posted that announcement since it hasn't been made public yet - i'm spinning unrelease info, yo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 25, 2021, 05:43:23 pm
Unreleased info? That's been making the rounds for about a month.

Breakfast Stout and beers that use breakfast stout as the base are the only good Founder's beers. Prove me wrong.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 25, 2021, 06:03:34 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 05:43:23 pm
Unreleased info? That's been making the rounds for about a month.

Breakfast Stout and beers that use breakfast stout as the base are the only good Founder's beers. Prove me wrong.
You don’t like Centennial IPA?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2021, 06:14:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 05:43:23 pm
Unreleased info? That's been making the rounds for about a month.
 
really?  i missed that, not that i'm that well informed... where?

Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 05:43:23 pm
Breakfast Stout and beers that use breakfast stout as the base

saying that KBS and the like are "based" on breakfast stout is a stretch.  the beers are similar because they're in the same style - there are only so many ways to make a breakfast stout - but the recipes are different.  KBS, for example, uses less oats, has more malt (higher gravity), higher percentage roast grains, has more bitterness, etc.

that's like saying a brewery's IPA #1 is "based" on IPA #2.  so if you're comfortable saying that all of Stone's myriad IPAs are "based" on their original IPA, then sure - BS is the base for all of their imperial stouts.
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 05:43:23 pm
are the only good Founder's beers. Prove me wrong.

the above-mentioned Better Half (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/77260/) is one example that comes to mind.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2021, 06:15:27 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 25, 2021, 06:03:34 pm
You don’t like Centennial IPA?

i haven't had that beer in at least 5 years.  it was, at one time, pretty edgy.  it's now lost in the crowd.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2021, 06:31:18 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 22, 2021, 02:54:22 pm
in case anyone was wondering what they can pick/have delivered from Blue Jacket: https://mailchi.mp/bluejacketdc/fullymadfat-super (https://mailchi.mp/bluejacketdc/fullymadfat-super)

FYI, blue jacket has put together a "hidden" (unlisted) assorted 4-pack of strong dark beers (not based on Breakfast stout, as far as i know) for the DC Homebrewer's next meeting - might be interesting for those looking for some variety.  Private Homebrewers Meeting (https://www.nrgprovisions.com/product-page/private-homebrewers-meeting)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 25, 2021, 06:43:23 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 25, 2021, 06:14:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 05:43:23 pm
Unreleased info? That's been making the rounds for about a month.
 
really?  i missed that, not that i'm that well informed... where?

Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 05:43:23 pm
Breakfast Stout and beers that use breakfast stout as the base

saying that KBS and the like are "based" on breakfast stout is a stretch.  the beers are similar because they're in the same style - there are only so many ways to make a breakfast stout - but the recipes are different.  KBS, for example, uses less oats, has more malt (higher gravity), higher percentage roast grains, has more bitterness, etc.

that's like saying a brewery's IPA #1 is "based" on IPA #2.  so if you're comfortable saying that all of Stone's myriad IPAs are "based" on their original IPA, then sure - BS is the base for all of their imperial stouts.
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 05:43:23 pm
are the only good Founder's beers. Prove me wrong.

the above-mentioned Better Half (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/77260/) is one example that comes to mind.

I stand corrected, but I stand by their stouts are the only beers of theirs I like...

And what sweets said regarding centennial ipa, I wouldn't not drink but I wouldn't buy it and I haven't had one in years.

Session ipas are one of my least favorite beers. If I want a light watery beer, I'll just drink a light watery beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 25, 2021, 07:48:50 pm
I agree, to an extent. Breakfast Stout is still my favorite Foumders beer. Their porter may be the best budget widely available porter out there. KBS passes the Space ratio test with flying colors. Frangelic Mountain was tasty.

Had a Better Half the other day myself. Tasty even if my actual better half hated it. Will still drink a Backwoods Bastard. Thought Marvelroast was very good.

Wouldn't bother with any of their hoppy beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2021, 08:06:32 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 06:43:23 pm
I stand corrected, but I stand by their stouts are the only beers of theirs I like...

a defensible position.  not sure i'm 100% with you, but i'm 90% there...

Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 06:43:23 pm
Session ipas are one of my least favorite beers. If I want a light watery beer, I'll just drink a light watery beer.

back in the before times, when we could gather socially, i attended a bbq with a cooler full of yellow fizzy water-beer (bud light, IIRC), hard seltzers, and all day IPA.  the gathering lasted many hours and it was hot out so i had a chance to rotate through all the offerings.  all day ipa was by far the most interesting choice - i had a few cans of that, vs. one yellow fizzy water-beer and a third of a mango seltzer.  but to your point, perhaps i wasn't in the mood for yellow fizzy water-beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 25, 2021, 11:42:51 pm
https://newschoolbeer.com/home/2021/1/oakshire-brewing-recalls-theme-from-the-bottom-mango-cheesecake
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 02:35:58 am
Quote from: Yada on January 25, 2021, 11:42:51 pm
https://newschoolbeer.com/home/2021/1/oakshire-brewing-recalls-theme-from-the-bottom-mango-cheesecake (https://newschoolbeer.com/home/2021/1/oakshire-brewing-recalls-theme-from-the-bottom-mango-cheesecake)

this is a live example of:
Quote from: sweetcell on January 16, 2021, 02:09:45 am
fruit goop: for 99% of fruited beer, the goop is added during fermentation so all sugars are consumed.  fruit doesn't affect shelf stability.  HOWEVER, some yahoos like to add fruit at packaging - notably some milkshake IPA makers.  these beers will (or certainly should) come with a warning: KEEP COLD AND DRINK ASAP.  as long as the beer is in a fridge, the yeast should stay dormant and all is well.  if you suspect that a can of warm beer has fresh fruit in it (again, a rare thing given how dangerous it is), just give it a light squeeze while ensuring that your face isn't in the way of the top/opening since that's where it will fail: if the can is rock-hard, back away quickly and call the bomb squad.


i take issue with something the article wrote:
Quote
Cans... are bulging and at risk to burst due to visible signs of refermentation in the package. Brewing with boat loads of fruit and strange ingredients that interact with brewing yeast in unexpected ways can result in similarly unpredictable side effects

brewing with fruit and weird ingredients doesn't result in unpredictable side effects. someone effed up by not waiting long enough for the fruit to referment so it was a failure of quality control.  but instead to owning up with "sorry, we goofed" they're trying to blame it on "ingredients that interact with brewing yeast in unexpected ways", AKA magical thinking.  it's insulting their customers, IMO.

Quote
Cans... are bulging and at risk to burst due to visible signs of refermentation in the package. but by quickly reacting in a responsible manner Oakshire shows that they are invested in a quality product.

aaaaand the bullshit continues.  if you're invested in a quality product, you put processes in place to ensure you don't release exploding cans.  fucking up then trying to mop up the mess by making consumers responsible for the safe disposition of bottle grenades isn't dedication to quality.  that's marketing happy-talk.

this information isn't on any of their social media sites.  from the article: "the majority of the cans sold online via pre-sale. All consumers who purchased this beer have been emailed a copy of this press release."  so for the minority who didn't buy via presale and didn't get a press release mailed to them - too bad so sad?  also, they're confident that 100% of their presale purchasers will read that email and it won't end up in their spam folder?  no need to alarm the public and take a reputational hit, nothing to see here folks!

those things can explode and hurt someone.  it's a recklessly stupid thing to do on top of a previous recklessly stupid thing to do. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 03:09:36 pm
Apologies in advance for triggering sidedrainpour...

https://shop.3fonteinen.be/collections/lambic-beers/products/the-geuze-fruit-magnum-pack?variant=32555523407921
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:11:15 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 03:16:49 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:11:15 pm
.

Seriously?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:20:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 03:16:49 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:11:15 pm
.

Seriously?
Well I thought it was sold out and made some post that I was going to buy some, but was too late
then I saw it was not on sale until 1/28
but this 3 pack is looking to cost $190...so you did outdo yourself
although these are ~50oz each

I will say, I think purchasing one $25-35 bottle of beer for a special occasion is legit
but I personally don't have 6 special occasions that I can think of
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 26, 2021, 03:27:56 pm
I just bought a four pack of Foam. (have never had any Foam before)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 26, 2021, 03:29:45 pm
Very jealous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 26, 2021, 03:39:41 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:20:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 03:16:49 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:11:15 pm
.

Seriously?
Well I thought it was sold out and made some post that I was going to buy some, but was too late
then I saw it was not on sale until 1/28
but this 3 pack is looking to cost $190...so you did outdo yourself
although these are ~50oz each

I will say, I think purchasing one $25-35 bottle of beer for a special occasion is legit
but I personally don't have 6 special occasions that I can think of

That's a paycheck's worth of 529 money, right there. Though 120 euros is $146, so maybe your math is off?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 04:34:59 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:20:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 03:16:49 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:11:15 pm
.

Seriously?
Well I thought it was sold out and made some post that I was going to buy some, but was too late
then I saw it was not on sale until 1/28
but this 3 pack is looking to cost $190...so you did outdo yourself
although these are ~50oz each

I will say, I think purchasing one $25-35 bottle of beer for a special occasion is legit
but I personally don't have 6 special occasions that I can think of

we're all out of luck - they won't ship alcohol to the US.  check out their shipping page.  you'll need someone in euroland ta act as your proxy (i.e. they'll need to re-ship it to you).
https://shop.3fonteinen.be/pages/shipping-return-policy-en (https://shop.3fonteinen.be/pages/shipping-return-policy-en)
https://shipping.3fonteinen.be/ (https://shipping.3fonteinen.be/)


nice idea tho... i have ordered lambic from "belgium in a box", previously.  t'was expensive, but how else are you gonna get this stuff?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 26, 2021, 04:46:31 pm
Meh. You get more mileage from a cheap pair of sneakers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 04:48:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 04:34:59 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:20:52 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 03:16:49 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 03:11:15 pm
.

Seriously?
Well I thought it was sold out and made some post that I was going to buy some, but was too late
then I saw it was not on sale until 1/28
but this 3 pack is looking to cost $190...so you did outdo yourself
although these are ~50oz each

I will say, I think purchasing one $25-35 bottle of beer for a special occasion is legit
but I personally don't have 6 special occasions that I can think of

we're all out of luck - they won't ship alcohol to the US.  check out their shipping page.  you'll need someone in euroland ta act as your proxy (i.e. they'll need to re-ship it to you).
https://shop.3fonteinen.be/pages/shipping-return-policy-en (https://shop.3fonteinen.be/pages/shipping-return-policy-en)
https://shipping.3fonteinen.be/ (https://shipping.3fonteinen.be/)


nice idea tho... i have ordered lambic from "belgium in a box", previously.  t'was expensive, but how else are you gonna get this stuff?

Oh, we're in luck. They use proxy services that you select at checkout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 05:04:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 04:48:45 pm
Oh, we're in luck. They use proxy services that you select at checkout.

i have a different reading of their rules than you do:

Quote
Since we do not ship beer directly to these listed destinations, you could make use of a proxy i.e. a person or third party which receives and forwards your box.
Please note this comes with additional costs.

Using a proxy is possible as long as the shipping address of your proxy resides in a country listed under Zone A. In such case, modify your shipping address during checkout to reflect the address of your own proxy. We will send your parcel(s) to the indicated shipping address of your proxy through FedEx at the applicable rates.

It is up to the buyer to make arrangements and to request for additional info. 3 Fonteinen does not intervene in this process.
Our liability stops with delivering items on the indicated shipping address. Be aware that additional costs might incur.

my understanding is that you can ship them to a friend (proxy) or a company that does this (proxy service) in one of their eligible countries, but that's all they are willing to do.  once your box gets to your proxy in, say, the UK, it's up to you and the proxy to figure out how you get it to the US - 3F is no longer involved.  there is no mention of a "proxy service".  the extra fee is for the hassle of the payer being in one country but the shipping destination is in another.  if you choose a proxy service, you'll have to pay their fees (in addition to double shipping and 3F's proxy fee).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 05:11:03 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 05:04:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 04:48:45 pm
Oh, we're in luck. They use proxy services that you select at checkout.

i have a different reading of their rules than you do:

Quote
Since we do not ship beer directly to these listed destinations, you could make use of a proxy i.e. a person or third party which receives and forwards your box.
Please note this comes with additional costs.

Using a proxy is possible as long as the shipping address of your proxy resides in a country listed under Zone A. In such case, modify your shipping address during checkout to reflect the address of your own proxy. We will send your parcel(s) to the indicated shipping address of your proxy through FedEx at the applicable rates.

It is up to the buyer to make arrangements and to request for additional info. 3 Fonteinen does not intervene in this process.
Our liability stops with delivering items on the indicated shipping address. Be aware that additional costs might incur.

my understanding is that you can ship them to a friend (proxy) or a company that does this (proxy service) in one of their eligible countries, but that's all they are willing to do.  once your box gets to your proxy in, say, the UK, it's up to you and the proxy to figure out how you get it to the US - 3F is no longer involved.  there is no mention of a "proxy service".  the extra fee is for the hassle of the payer being in one country but the shipping destination is in another.  if you choose a proxy service, you'll have to pay their fees (in addition to double shipping and 3F's proxy fee).

Other than the fact I've had multiple boxes shipped to me in the past year, I suppose we'll follow your understanding.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 06:00:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 05:11:03 pm
Other than the fact I've had multiple boxes shipped to me in the past year, I suppose we'll follow your understanding.

you've ordered directly from this 3F online shop recently?  cool!  if so, i wonder why their instructions are so misleading (or why my reading comprehension is so poor...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 06:06:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 26, 2021, 03:39:41 pm
Though 120 euros is $146, so maybe your math is off?
I was adding shipping...it's costs $24 to send a Record from Europe, gotta imagine it will cost $45 to send 3 Magnums
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 06:25:56 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 06:00:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 05:11:03 pm
Other than the fact I've had multiple boxes shipped to me in the past year, I suppose we'll follow your understanding.

you've ordered directly from this 3F online shop recently?  cool!  if so, i wonder why their instructions are so misleading (or why my reading comprehension is so poor...)

They've been selling through this website since the pandemic started... But no point in mentioning it here!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 06:40:29 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 06:06:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 26, 2021, 03:39:41 pm
Though 120 euros is $146, so maybe your math is off?
I was adding shipping...it's costs $24 to send a Record from Europe, gotta imagine it will cost $45 to send 3 Magnums

There are other options other than the three pack of magnums, not equal to three regular beers. You need to scroll past the fold.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 06:55:06 pm
sweets, after re-reading your post, we *MAY* be saying the same thing. This is the process...

1. Buy beer on 3F
2. At check out (and i haven't done it in a few months and as you said, the language is confusing), you pick a proxy service. Belgium in a Box used to the go to for me, but they went belly up during the pandemic. Etre Gourmet is the other option.
3. 3F ships the box to Etre Gourment for a nominal fee (the last time it was $9.99) as these places are literally a few blocks from each other.
4. Etre Gourmet contacts you when they receive the box (typically a week or two).
5. Once received, you pay for shipping to the US from etre, however, they will hold your box for up to three months and let you fill it with other goodies from their website to maximize your shipping costs.
6. My last box came with 16 bottles that included three bottles of 3f Zenne (once a whale), five bottles of 3 shelfies including Gueze AG, OG Gueze, and Kriek, six bottles of Cantillon, and two bottles of De Cam and Fabriek (a lambic maker I've never had).
7. Grand total came to $22 bucks a bottle after everything.
8. Now that sidepour is having a coronary, let me know if there is anywhere in the US you can get any of those bottles for that price even if they're very similar to the sours Lost Rhino is producing.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 07:06:04 pm
yikes that's a lot of work to get a drink!
Seems you've found a way to get the space per oz cost to a reasonable level

Not sure why you keep tagging me with the Lost Rhino Sours...don't think I've ever said one thing about their beers, but I guess that sticking

I don't really care that you got these super exclusive beers...would you like a gold star?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 07:11:01 pm
Quote from: OfficeOfTheFormerHatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 26, 2021, 07:06:04 pm
yikes that's a lot of work to get a drink!
Seems you've found a way to get the space per oz cost to a reasonable level

Not sure why you keep tagging me with the Lost Rhino Sours...don't think I've ever said one thing about their beers, but I guess that sticking

I don't really care that you got these super exclusive beers...would you like a gold star?

I've never mentioned lost rhino in my life (port city was the last reference) but you seem to equate any shitty beer with really good beer and say it's the same thing.

This is a beer thread, sorry for posting about opportunities to get great beer but we've already been down that road. No gold star needed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 08:38:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 06:55:06 pm
sweets, after re-reading your post, we *MAY* be saying the same thing. This is the process...

1. Buy beer on 3F
2. At check out (and i haven't done it in a few months and as you said, the language is confusing), you pick a proxy service. Belgium in a Box used to the go to for me, but they went belly up during the pandemic. Etre Gourmet is the other option.
3. 3F ships the box to Etre Gourment for a nominal fee (the last time it was $9.99) as these places are literally a few blocks from each other.
4. Etre Gourmet contacts you when they receive the box (typically a week or two).
5. Once received, you pay for shipping to the US from etre, however, they will hold your box for up to three months and let you fill it with other goodies from their website to maximize your shipping costs.
6. My last box came with 16 bottles that included three bottles of 3f Zenne (once a whale), five bottles of 3 shelfies including Gueze AG, OG Gueze, and Kriek, six bottles of Cantillon, and two bottles of De Cam and Fabriek (a lambic maker I've never had).
7. Grand total came to $22 bucks a bottle after everything.
8. Now that sidepour is having a coronary, let me know if there is anywhere in the US you can get any of those bottles for that price even if they're very similar to the sours Lost Rhino is producing.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

we agree on #1 and #8 ;D

what you wrote above is indeed what i understood you to be saying, and that was not my understanding.  per my reading, you don't get to pick a proxy service.  you need to find someone, or a service, on your own and you're responsible for making arrangements once the package arrives.  the 3F website is not involved with anyone proxy'ing.

i just put a mix pack in my cart, went to checkout, put in my US address, hit "go to shipping" and:

Quote
This order can’t be shipped to your location. Contact the store for more information.

Sorry, due to limitations we cannot proceed with this order. No shipping rates are available as either the order exceeds the maximum allowed weight or we currently do not offer shipping to United States. For more information, contact us at shop@3fonteinen.be

i have a screenshot but am too lazy to upload and link. 


based on your previous experience, sounds like they've changed their shipping rules.  booooooo :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 26, 2021, 08:39:53 pm
Guys, you can get Hopslam at Kroger. Why are you going to all this trouble?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 08:42:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 08:38:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 06:55:06 pm
sweets, after re-reading your post, we *MAY* be saying the same thing. This is the process...

1. Buy beer on 3F
2. At check out (and i haven't done it in a few months and as you said, the language is confusing), you pick a proxy service. Belgium in a Box used to the go to for me, but they went belly up during the pandemic. Etre Gourmet is the other option.
3. 3F ships the box to Etre Gourment for a nominal fee (the last time it was $9.99) as these places are literally a few blocks from each other.
4. Etre Gourmet contacts you when they receive the box (typically a week or two).
5. Once received, you pay for shipping to the US from etre, however, they will hold your box for up to three months and let you fill it with other goodies from their website to maximize your shipping costs.
6. My last box came with 16 bottles that included three bottles of 3f Zenne (once a whale), five bottles of 3 shelfies including Gueze AG, OG Gueze, and Kriek, six bottles of Cantillon, and two bottles of De Cam and Fabriek (a lambic maker I've never had).
7. Grand total came to $22 bucks a bottle after everything.
8. Now that sidepour is having a coronary, let me know if there is anywhere in the US you can get any of those bottles for that price even if they're very similar to the sours Lost Rhino is producing.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

we agree on #1 and #8 ;D

what you wrote above is indeed what i understood you to be saying, and that was not my understanding.  per my reading, you don't get to pick a proxy service.  you need to find someone, or a service, on your own and you're responsible for making arrangements once the package arrives.  the 3F website is not involved with anyone proxy'ing.

i just put a mix pack in my cart, went to checkout, put in my US address, hit "go to shipping" and:

Quote
This order can’t be shipped to your location. Contact the store for more information.

Sorry, due to limitations we cannot proceed with this order. No shipping rates are available as either the order exceeds the maximum allowed weight or we currently do not offer shipping to United States. For more information, contact us at shop@3fonteinen.be

i have a screenshot but am too lazy to upload and link. 


based on your previous experience, sounds like they've changed their shipping rules.  booooooo :(

Negative, nothing has changed you actually manually type in the etre gourmet address as the shipping address. Sorry for the confusion!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2021, 08:50:36 pm
You are welcome.

https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c0457da14591b9b84ad9b0a4a/files/19fbb4e2-638f-4ffe-8d30-7c6a19aca4fb/shipping_service.pdf

You are doubly welcome.

https://mcusercontent.com/c0457da14591b9b84ad9b0a4a/files/bd47265d-a4c8-4b10-adb6-215b8742cd73/additional_address.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 26, 2021, 09:18:06 pm
Speaking of 3F, they start shipping to MD and DC in February. All the Zombie Dust you want!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 26, 2021, 10:48:30 pm
Nice. Been a while since I've had any.

Edit: where'd you read about that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 29, 2021, 02:42:51 pm
Anyone get Pliny the Younger bottles yesterday?

*Prepares flame retardant suit*
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2021, 02:45:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 29, 2021, 02:42:51 pm
Anyone get Pliny the Younger bottles yesterday?
I know for a fact that smakie was queuing up with a copy of the economist in hand
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 29, 2021, 02:52:27 pm
Quote from: Jewish Space Laser-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2021, 02:45:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 29, 2021, 02:42:51 pm
Anyone get Pliny the Younger bottles yesterday?
I know for a fact that smakie was queuing up with a copy of the economist in hand


Pfft... Lines.

This was an all online sale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2021, 03:05:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 29, 2021, 02:52:27 pm
Quote from: Jewish Space Laser-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2021, 02:45:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 29, 2021, 02:42:51 pm
Anyone get Pliny the Younger bottles yesterday?
I know for a fact that smakie was queuing up with a copy of the economist in hand


Pfft... Lines.

This was an all online sale.
really...and you thought smakie would stand in a line too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 29, 2021, 03:06:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 29, 2021, 02:42:51 pm
Anyone get Pliny the Younger bottles yesterday?

*Prepares flame retardant suit*

uhhhh, me?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 29, 2021, 03:20:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 06:00:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 05:11:03 pm
Other than the fact I've had multiple boxes shipped to me in the past year, I suppose we'll follow your understanding.

you've ordered directly from this 3F online shop recently?  cool!  if so, i wonder why their instructions are so misleading (or why my reading comprehension is so poor...)

bought from 3F and shipped from etre multiple times last year - its not complicated
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 29, 2021, 04:09:06 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 29, 2021, 03:20:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 26, 2021, 06:00:24 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2021, 05:11:03 pm
Other than the fact I've had multiple boxes shipped to me in the past year, I suppose we'll follow your understanding.

you've ordered directly from this 3F online shop recently?  cool!  if so, i wonder why their instructions are so misleading (or why my reading comprehension is so poor...)

bought from 3F and shipped from etre multiple times last year - its not complicated

He hasth spoketh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 29, 2021, 07:34:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 29, 2021, 02:42:51 pm
Anyone get Pliny the Younger bottles yesterday?

*Prepares flame retardant suit*

As my 7th grade geometry teacher said: I’m a lost ball in a high weed.

Wish I’d known about this. F me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 01, 2021, 02:12:36 pm
99 self serve taps across the street from Nats park (https://wtop.com/business-finance/2021/02/24-year-old-former-race-car-driver-opening-tap99-at-navy-yard)

https://tap-99.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 01, 2021, 03:02:03 pm
I’ll reserve comment until I see the tap list. Not a bad idea tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2021, 01:39:50 am
ratebeer has released its Best Awards For the year 2020 (https://www.ratebeer.com/ratebeerbest/2020/).

in the New Brewer Awards (https://www.ratebeer.com/ratebeerbest/2020/new-brewers) category, gold went to Timber Ales in NYC... never heard of them, anyone else?  and the bronze went to 5e Baron ("fifth baron"), from my sleepy little hometown (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aylmer,_Quebec) in canuckistan.  reading that almost made me spit my beer...  guess i have a new place to visit next time i'm home (if the border ever opens up).

interesting that in the top 10, the only other american entry besides Timber Ales is Short Throw from Richmond VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 05, 2021, 08:50:13 am
Best place in Md for beer (subregion category) is Jailbreak?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2021, 09:22:42 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 05, 2021, 08:50:13 am
Best place in Md for beer (subregion category) is Jailbreak?
maybe it was a nod to the insurrection
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 05, 2021, 09:32:03 am
That place that sells overpriced six packs in Vermont rated best brewery in the world!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2021, 10:01:38 am
a fool and his money are easily parted
is there any way that all the people who voted actually tasted some when it's so difficult to get?
I think the voting was rigged!

Was nice to see my homebrew took second place
Side Project Brewing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2021, 05:42:47 pm
I have heard of Timber but have not had. I had a Short Throw beer last night. The fact that both are gypsy brewed at and distributed by 12 Percent makes it sound sketch.

Jailbreak is still the worst brewery I've visited in Maryland.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2021, 06:44:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2021, 05:42:47 pm
The fact that both are gypsy brewed at and distributed by 12 Percent makes it sound sketch.

really???  yeah, that sounds completely sketch... i could see one of them sneaky on there, but both?

Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2021, 05:42:47 pm
Jailbreak is still the worst brewery I've visited in Maryland.

what happened?  i visited once, thought they were pretty decent.  they had a tropical IPA that worked for me.  can't remember what else i had, but we spent 2 hours there.  dunno if i'd ever go back, they were only slightly above average, but nothing i'd complain about.  this was summer of 2016 IIRC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 05, 2021, 08:01:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2021, 05:42:47 pm
Jailbreak is still the worst brewery I've visited in Maryland.

You’ve been to Brookeville Beer Farm? 7 Locks? The latter might be my least favorite in MD. Have friends who love it tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 05, 2021, 08:07:13 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 05, 2021, 08:01:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2021, 05:42:47 pm
Jailbreak is still the worst brewery I've visited in Maryland.

You’ve been to Brookeville Beer Farm? 7 Locks? The latter might be my least favorite in MD. Have friends who love it tho.

I was going to say i defer to you and Yada for Maryland brewery commentary. I've been to Jailbreak and Brookeville once each. Both forgettable, though my sample size is obviously tiny. So grain of salt. Never heard of 7 Locks, but i'll make sure to avoid.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 06, 2021, 06:00:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2021, 08:07:13 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 05, 2021, 08:01:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 05, 2021, 05:42:47 pm
Jailbreak is still the worst brewery I've visited in Maryland.

You’ve been to Brookeville Beer Farm? 7 Locks? The latter might be my least favorite in MD. Have friends who love it tho.

I was going to say i defer to you and Yada for Maryland brewery commentary. I've been to Jailbreak and Brookeville once each. Both forgettable, though my sample size is obviously tiny. So grain of salt. Never heard of 7 Locks, but i'll make sure to avoid.

I've admittedly never visited a brewery in MD in search of good beer... It's always been purely social or to simply enjoy the outdoors while herding children.... Maybe I take that back, I went to Diamondback early in the haze craze which was above average beer, below average taproom and Sapwood, we probably don't need to go down that rabbit hole again.

7 Locks - Awful beer and have never set foot in their taproom
Brookeville Beer Farm - Awful beer, average setting, way too close to the highway for herding children.
Waredaca - Awful to mediocre beer, top tier setting for herding children
Lone Oak Brewery - Mediocre to average beer, top tier setting for herding children

The end.

Edit: *awaits wrath of walky regarding children at breweries*

Edit x 2: none of the breweries I mentioned would survive without families supporting them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:21:43 pm
Speaking of Maryland breweries, made a visit to Downtown Crown today and had my first Black Flag beer. Very nice Mexican stout. That's a style I really love, and at $19/four pack, the price was right to bring more home.

https://untappd.com/b/black-flag-brewing-company-cocoa-loco/4141771

Edit: I agree with Yada's reviews of Maryland breweries. My kid is too old to herd now, it's more about finding who serves the best root beer. I seem to remember Elder Pine doing to trick. They're my current favorite Maryland brewery to visit for the beer, atmosphere, and root beer.

I'd love to check out Cushwa at some point, if i'm ever over that way. Burley Oak too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 06, 2021, 08:31:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:21:43 pm
Speaking of Maryland breweries, made a visit to Downtown Crown today and had my first Black Flag beer. Very nice Mexican stout. That's a style I really love, and at $19/four pack, the price was right to bring more home.

https://untappd.com/b/black-flag-brewing-company-cocoa-loco/4141771

Edit: I agree with Yada's reviews of Maryland breweries. My kid is too old to herd now, it's more about finding who serves the best root beer. I seem to remember Elder Pine doing to trick. They're my current favorite Maryland brewery to visit for the beer, atmosphere, and root beer.

I'd love to check out Cushwa at some point, if i'm ever over that way. Burley Oak too.

I was really referring to "local" MD breweries.

I've been to both... Cushwa during the 2017 haze craze and Burley Oak one rainy beach trip day.

There's no reason to visit cushwa unless you're driving up 70 and Burley Oak is cool but I get some pretty deep Trumper/proud boy vibes from their crew (pure speculation).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:47:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 06, 2021, 08:31:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:21:43 pm
Speaking of Maryland breweries, made a visit to Downtown Crown today and had my first Black Flag beer. Very nice Mexican stout. That's a style I really love, and at $19/four pack, the price was right to bring more home.

https://untappd.com/b/black-flag-brewing-company-cocoa-loco/4141771

Edit: I agree with Yada's reviews of Maryland breweries. My kid is too old to herd now, it's more about finding who serves the best root beer. I seem to remember Elder Pine doing to trick. They're my current favorite Maryland brewery to visit for the beer, atmosphere, and root beer.

I'd love to check out Cushwa at some point, if i'm ever over that way. Burley Oak too.

I was really referring to "local" MD breweries.

I've been to both... Cushwa during the 2017 haze craze and Burley Oak one rainy beach trip day.

There's no reason to visit cushwa unless you're driving up 70 and Burley Oak is cool but I get some pretty deep Trumper/proud boy vibes from their crew (pure speculation).

Yeah, Cushwa is like a 15 min detour on a long drive to visit family and Burley Oak is a stop on the way to the beach. So haven't done either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 06, 2021, 09:18:35 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:21:43 pm
too old to herd now
make an estimate, how many different breweries has your kid been to? 50?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 06, 2021, 09:25:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:47:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 06, 2021, 08:31:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:21:43 pm
Speaking of Maryland breweries, made a visit to Downtown Crown today and had my first Black Flag beer. Very nice Mexican stout. That's a style I really love, and at $19/four pack, the price was right to bring more home.

https://untappd.com/b/black-flag-brewing-company-cocoa-loco/4141771

Edit: I agree with Yada's reviews of Maryland breweries. My kid is too old to herd now, it's more about finding who serves the best root beer. I seem to remember Elder Pine doing to trick. They're my current favorite Maryland brewery to visit for the beer, atmosphere, and root beer.

I'd love to check out Cushwa at some point, if i'm ever over that way. Burley Oak too.

I was really referring to "local" MD breweries.

I've been to both... Cushwa during the 2017 haze craze and Burley Oak one rainy beach trip day.

There's no reason to visit cushwa unless you're driving up 70 and Burley Oak is cool but I get some pretty deep Trumper/proud boy vibes from their crew (pure speculation).

Yeah, Cushwa is like a 15 min detour on a long drive to visit family and Burley Oak is a stop on the way to the beach. So haven't done either.

Yeah, my family lives in western, pa so it's along the route. I stopped there pre thanksgiving one year and had pours and a bought a couple crowlers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 11:16:55 pm
Quote from: AbsolSide-Proof ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 06, 2021, 09:18:35 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:21:43 pm
too old to herd now
make an estimate, how many different breweries has your kid been to? 50?

I've been to exactly 240, she's been to approximately 187.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 11:22:23 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 06, 2021, 09:25:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:47:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 06, 2021, 08:31:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 08:21:43 pm
Speaking of Maryland breweries, made a visit to Downtown Crown today and had my first Black Flag beer. Very nice Mexican stout. That's a style I really love, and at $19/four pack, the price was right to bring more home.

https://untappd.com/b/black-flag-brewing-company-cocoa-loco/4141771

Edit: I agree with Yada's reviews of Maryland breweries. My kid is too old to herd now, it's more about finding who serves the best root beer. I seem to remember Elder Pine doing to trick. They're my current favorite Maryland brewery to visit for the beer, atmosphere, and root beer.

I'd love to check out Cushwa at some point, if i'm ever over that way. Burley Oak too.

I was really referring to "local" MD breweries.

I've been to both... Cushwa during the 2017 haze craze and Burley Oak one rainy beach trip day.

There's no reason to visit cushwa unless you're driving up 70 and Burley Oak is cool but I get some pretty deep Trumper/proud boy vibes from their crew (pure speculation).

Yeah, Cushwa is like a 15 min detour on a long drive to visit family and Burley Oak is a stop on the way to the beach. So haven't done either.

Yeah, my family lives in western, pa so it's along the route. I stopped there pre thanksgiving one year and had pours and a bought a couple crowlers.

Would add 25 mins to the drive to my family in the Finger Lakes. Probably too much extra to bother. Fourscore is only 9 mins out of the way, I may shoot for that one instead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 07, 2021, 10:52:12 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 11:16:55 pm
I've been to exactly 240, she's been to approximately 187.

Tip of the hat to you. I cannot imagine getting anywhere close to that number, myself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 07, 2021, 11:50:13 am

Quote from: Space Freely on February 06, 2021, 11:16:55 pm
I've been to exactly 240, she's been to approximately 187.

Ok 2021 probably won't be the best year to do this, but 2022 you and challenged are going to have to go head to head
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 08, 2021, 05:24:00 pm
I wonder what type of beer this woman prefers?

https://thedesk.matthewkeys.net/2020/12/haze-fan-bloomberg-detained-china/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 08, 2021, 06:35:44 pm
Judging by the pic I’d say sours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 09, 2021, 11:28:59 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 08, 2021, 06:35:44 pm
Judging by the pic I’d say sours.

Or rice lagers. Too soon?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 09, 2021, 11:30:18 am
#triggerwarning

#NSFSH

(https://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/28920/289204202ef5d0c387b6d833fbf686a94a6602d1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 09, 2021, 12:44:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 09, 2021, 11:30:18 am
#NSFSH

https://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/28920/289204202ef5d0c387b6d833fbf686a94a6602d1.jpg[/img]
Flattered I got my own hashtag, but couldn't even get upset when I can't see the link ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 09, 2021, 01:16:52 pm
Quote from: AbsolSide-Proof ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 09, 2021, 12:44:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 09, 2021, 11:30:18 am
#NSFSH

https://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/28920/289204202ef5d0c387b6d833fbf686a94a6602d1.jpg[/img]
Flattered I got my own hashtag, but couldn't even get upset when I can't see the link ;)

Probably for the better
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 09, 2021, 01:18:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 09, 2021, 11:30:18 am
#triggerwarning

#NSFSH

(https://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/28920/289204202ef5d0c387b6d833fbf686a94a6602d1.jpg)

TRIGGERED.

did you get that through Raison D'Etre, or whatever that analog to Belgium-in-a-box is?  how long did it take?


(fyi i can see the pic just fine...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 09, 2021, 01:38:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 09, 2021, 01:18:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 09, 2021, 11:30:18 am
#triggerwarning

#NSFSH

(https://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/28920/289204202ef5d0c387b6d833fbf686a94a6602d1.jpg)

TRIGGERED.

did you get that through Raison D'Etre, or whatever that analog to Belgium-in-a-box is?  how long did it take?


(fyi i can see the pic just fine...)

Yup.

Shipped 1/29, arrived today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 09, 2021, 01:59:08 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 09, 2021, 01:18:39 pm

(fyi i can see the pic just fine...)
hmm, my work must be blocking that
I specifically turned off the 'alcohol' block in cisco umbrella
well I can just imagine an absurdly priced 6 pack and scream into the void
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 09, 2021, 07:43:24 pm
Quote from: AbsolSide-Proof ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 09, 2021, 01:59:08 pm
hmm, my work must be blocking that
I specifically turned off the 'alcohol' block in cisco umbrella

the image is hosted on https://img0.uploadhouse.com/ in case you want to un-block it.

Quote from: AbsolSide-Proof ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 09, 2021, 01:59:08 pm
well I can just imagine an absurdly priced 6 pack and scream into the void

scream is still appropriate, but it's 15 bottles of lambic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 09, 2021, 08:42:59 pm
so i'm a day late asking this, but did anyone consume anything fun during The Big Game on sunday?

i had:
- a 2019 Backwoods Bastard
- a 2020 Cyclops (a barrel-aged barleywine from Elysian)
- my first bottle of a homebrewed sour aged on peaches - one of the best sours i've made in a while  even dad-in-law liked it.
- a bunch of my Strata/Lemon Drop IPA (a little too much, according to the missus...)

i had some BCBS and a few others chilling in the fridge, but (thankfully) they remained there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 10, 2021, 08:28:29 am
Quote from: sweetcell on February 09, 2021, 08:42:59 pm
so i'm a day late asking this, but did anyone consume anything fun during The Big Game on sunday?

i had:
- a 2019 Backwoods Bastard
- a 2020 Cyclops (a barrel-aged barleywine from Elysian)
- my first bottle of a homebrewed sour aged on peaches - one of the best sours i've made in a while  even dad-in-law liked it.
- a bunch of my Strata/Lemon Drop IPA (a little too much, according to the missus...)

i had some BCBS and a few others chilling in the fridge, but (thankfully) they remained there.

Sounds delish. I had half a can of Foam's Distopian Dream Girl. The beer was much dreamier than the game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 10, 2021, 12:12:36 pm
what a haul! very jealous

Quote from: Yada on February 09, 2021, 11:30:18 am
#triggerwarning

#NSFSH

(https://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/28920/289204202ef5d0c387b6d833fbf686a94a6602d1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2021, 12:34:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2021, 12:23:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2021, 12:06:42 pm
Wrong thread, but you don't consider Other Half's IPA's to be bitter?

Not the ones I like...

Curious, which ones do you guys recommend
when I went there...25-30 different options available
and Dominion Beer seems to be getting them, but very limited supply

I am certain the ones you list will not be available, because that seems to be the way people list the beer they like
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2021, 12:43:32 pm
Quote from: Perseverance-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2021, 12:34:51 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2021, 12:23:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2021, 12:06:42 pm
Wrong thread, but you don't consider Other Half's IPA's to be bitter?

Not the ones I like...

Curious, which ones do you guys recommend
when I went there...25-30 different options available
and Dominion Beer seems to be getting them, but very limited supply

I am certain the ones you list will not be available, because that seems to be the way people list the beer they like

Other Half is really not that "rare." Unless it's some chocolate covered peanut marshmallow almond butter pecan stout, any can is easily accessible.

Personally, I like any of their lower ABV single hop beers... Usually falling into the 6 to 8% mark... nothing with lactose/dream/cream in the name. Can't go wrong with the "small" series or the "all" series and then pick the ones hopped with what you like... I prefer Citra, Nelson, Riwaka, Galaxy, and MOsaic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2021, 12:53:41 pm
...haven't evolved enough to dial into the hops I prefer, but I'm getting there

I drove the last time and I was trying to find some low abv beers and 6% was the bottom on a 16 oz
so hard to have more than 2 at that rate
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 17, 2021, 01:03:05 pm
My favorite IPA's these days are also in the 6-8% range, and favorite hops are Citra, Mosaic, and Galaxy, when in season. I must admit, I do like the lactose/oat cream stuff, though not necessarily any more than without.

Downtown Crown gets Other Half beers from all three Other Half locations. Dominion only gets Other Half beers from the DC location. Some Beer Advocate people report that the DC brewery doesn't have things as dialed in yet as the other two do. I haven't had any of the DC IPA's so can't report (did have a DC Other Half Crunchee/ Burley Oak JREAM hybrid fruit beer collaboration that was very good.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2021, 02:12:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2021, 12:43:32 pm
Can't go wrong with the "small" series or the "all" series and then pick the ones hopped with what you like... I prefer Citra, Nelson, Riwaka, Galaxy, and MOsaic.

Good advice here. DDH All Citra Everything is particularly good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 17, 2021, 02:23:39 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2021, 02:12:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2021, 12:43:32 pm
Can't go wrong with the "small" series or the "all" series and then pick the ones hopped with what you like... I prefer Citra, Nelson, Riwaka, Galaxy, and MOsaic.

Good advice here. DDH All Citra Everything is particularly good.

can confirm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2021, 02:48:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2021, 02:23:39 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2021, 02:12:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2021, 12:43:32 pm
Can't go wrong with the "small" series or the "all" series and then pick the ones hopped with what you like... I prefer Citra, Nelson, Riwaka, Galaxy, and MOsaic.

Good advice here. DDH All Citra Everything is particularly good.

can confirm

can confirm they don't carry any DDH variations in DC
https://my-site-107118-100920.square.site/?location=11eae3d5fe314980b0f30cc47a2b63cc

they do have
Forever Riwaka IPA (6.5%) Nothing but 100% amazing hand selected Riwaka from our friends @freestylehops
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2021, 02:58:31 pm
Quote from: Perseverance-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2021, 02:48:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2021, 02:23:39 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2021, 02:12:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2021, 12:43:32 pm
Can't go wrong with the "small" series or the "all" series and then pick the ones hopped with what you like... I prefer Citra, Nelson, Riwaka, Galaxy, and MOsaic.

Good advice here. DDH All Citra Everything is particularly good.

can confirm


can confirm they don't carry any DDH variations in DC
https://my-site-107118-100920.square.site/?location=11eae3d5fe314980b0f30cc47a2b63cc

they do have
Forever Riwaka IPA (6.5%) Nothing but 100% amazing hand selected Riwaka from our friends @freestylehops

If I were buying beer today off that list, my choices would be the following:

double forever simcoe
""        ""         citra
forever riwaka
forever green
double forever cashmere
green dots
forever nelson
forever simcoe


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 17, 2021, 03:00:34 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 17, 2021, 02:12:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2021, 12:43:32 pm
Can't go wrong with the "small" series or the "all" series and then pick the ones hopped with what you like... I prefer Citra, Nelson, Riwaka, Galaxy, and MOsaic.

Good advice here. DDH All Citra Everything is particularly good.

It should be noted that the aforementioned beer, at 8.5%, is above the 6-8 range. However, the Small Citra Everything and DDH Small Citra Everything clock on at 6.5%.

Anybody have an knowledge on the difference between the OH DDH beers and their HDHC beers?

HDHC is an acronym to denote this combo and it stands for High Density Hop Charge due to the extra high hopping rate. We are going for the biggest baddest aromatics we can and it represents around 15 lbs/bbl but with our combo of hop products its as smooth as ever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 17, 2021, 03:10:13 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2021, 02:58:31 pm
green dots
Had this last visit and was very tasty
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2021, 09:53:11 am
#triggerWarning
#blessBrennser

(https://i.ibb.co/zFfRfRH/20210218-171523.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2021, 09:54:06 am
you are actually going to drink pliny that is a week old...you savage
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 19, 2021, 09:58:23 am
Quote from: eccedentesiast-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2021, 09:54:06 am
you are actually going to drink pliny that is a week old...you savage

Can confirm the hops have really fallen off in 48 hrs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2021, 10:03:51 am
can almost make you out by the reflection in the bottles
nice wall of windows!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 19, 2021, 10:07:14 am
Quote from: eccedentesiast-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2021, 10:03:51 am
can almost make you out by the reflection in the bottles
nice wall of windows!

My god, he's lost so much weight, he's almost unrecognizable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on February 19, 2021, 10:11:11 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 19, 2021, 10:07:14 am
Quote from: eccedentesiast-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2021, 10:03:51 am
can almost make you out by the reflection in the bottles
nice wall of windows!

My god, he's lost so much weight, he's almost unrecognizable.


Haha
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 19, 2021, 02:51:35 pm
Quote from: eccedentesiast-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2021, 10:03:51 am
can almost make you out by the reflection in the bottles
nice wall of windows!

to be clear, those are screens not windows - I'm not reckless enough to hang out with Yada indoors during a pandemic  8)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 19, 2021, 02:54:14 pm
and speaking of Other Half DC beers I recently tried one called Bright Edges

A disgusting oniony hot mess of a beer and an instant drain pour
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2021, 04:07:04 pm
Quote from: brennser on February 19, 2021, 02:51:35 pm
Quote from: eccedentesiast-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2021, 10:03:51 am
can almost make you out by the reflection in the bottles
nice wall of windows!

to be clear, those are screens not windows - I'm not reckless enough to hang out with Yada indoors during a pandemic  8)
looked like it might be a porch...man, special delivery and everything
I need new friends
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2021, 05:06:49 pm
(https://i.redd.it/gaz331dglwg61.jpg)
(https://cdn-az.allevents.in/events9/banners/fb34e5963c3b84f355a7a2fb46a642c1db61081bf2afc98c3d640a1b6c101293-rimg-w519-h315-gmir.jpg?v=1613228314)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on February 22, 2021, 09:20:56 pm
https://www.metroweekly.com/2021/02/co-founder-of-lesbian-owned-brewing-company-appointed-to-small-business-administration/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 22, 2021, 09:42:55 pm
I have too many sour ipa's and fruited sours sitting in fridge, but if I needed some this would be good news... Hudson Valley Brewery now shipping to VA and DC. Not sure about MD.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on February 22, 2021, 10:07:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 22, 2021, 09:42:55 pm
I have too many sour ipa's and fruited sours sitting in fridge, but if I needed some this would be good news... Hudson Valley Brewery now shipping to VA and DC. Not sure about MD.

I have never had their products, but I worship sours and sour ipas.  Maybe I will order one of each of their 4 packs, just to see.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 22, 2021, 10:14:14 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on February 22, 2021, 09:20:56 pm
https://www.metroweekly.com/2021/02/co-founder-of-lesbian-owned-brewing-company-appointed-to-small-business-administration/

Denizen's is a great Silver Spring hangout!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 22, 2021, 10:20:00 pm
Great hangout but only the 3rd best brewery in downtown Silver Spring.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 22, 2021, 10:24:01 pm
well yes, passable beerz, better in the warmpth and no pandemic
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2021, 12:40:59 pm
#triggerWarning
#readingComprehensionWarning

Vinous Pack to be released this week...

https://shop.3fonteinen.be/collections/lambic-beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 01, 2021, 03:56:45 pm
 2021 MD Brewery Challenge  (https://www.commoninja.com/brackets/lp/6395d739-7045-4d3d-99b5-703e8ce4b77f?fbclid=IwAR0hHeI96f3EXZfpMGQ-qgaf27khym8EX87U5LzYeLxT4eSyMcJWboeyYBs)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 01, 2021, 04:02:56 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on March 01, 2021, 03:56:45 pm
2021 MD Brewery Challenge  (https://www.commoninja.com/brackets/lp/6395d739-7045-4d3d-99b5-703e8ce4b77f?fbclid=IwAR0hHeI96f3EXZfpMGQ-qgaf27khym8EX87U5LzYeLxT4eSyMcJWboeyYBs)
Sapwood with the #1 seed

Edit...doesn't look like it works that way

looks like Falling Branch is holding up against Guinness

some tough first-round picks
Oliver Vs Silver branch
Cushawa is crushing DuClaw


Unknows Crooked Crab and Histeria are leading the pack
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 01, 2021, 08:12:29 pm
Idiom is holding its own.  nice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 01, 2021, 08:40:06 pm
Saints Row, Checkerspot, and Diamondback should be winning their brackets, IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2021, 02:57:10 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on March 01, 2021, 03:56:45 pm
2021 MD Brewery Challenge  (https://www.commoninja.com/brackets/lp/6395d739-7045-4d3d-99b5-703e8ce4b77f?fbclid=IwAR0hHeI96f3EXZfpMGQ-qgaf27khym8EX87U5LzYeLxT4eSyMcJWboeyYBs)
welp round one done...monument brewing is the point leader (were up against Chesepiooc Real Ale Brewery
...so I can see why they crushed), but do they have what it takes to beat burly oak in the quarter-finals

Man, Falling branch missed it by one vote against Guinness
Guinness goes up against Elder Pine this round

Oliver crushed Silver Branch

Next round matches to watch
Black flag vs Brewers Art
Chuswa vs Heavy Seas
Full Tilt vs Union

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 01, 2021, 08:40:06 pm
Saints Row, Checkerspot, and Diamondback should be winning their brackets, IMO.
good thing you didn't put any money on the barrelhead...as all three lost in the first round
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 03:06:57 pm
Who the hell is Pherm and why are they beating Burley Oak?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 02, 2021, 03:13:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 03:06:57 pm
Who the hell is Pherm and why are they beating Burley Oak?

Who the hell are any of these breweries...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2021, 03:18:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 02, 2021, 03:13:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 03:06:57 pm
Who the hell is Pherm and why are they beating Burley Oak?

Who the hell are any of these breweries...
never heard of most of these and can imagine only friends and family even have this bracket
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 03:24:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 02, 2021, 03:13:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 03:06:57 pm
Who the hell is Pherm and why are they beating Burley Oak?

Who the hell are any of these breweries...

I've been to 10 of remaining 32, and have heard of most of them. And I don't even live in the state.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 02, 2021, 03:47:36 pm
Been to 15 of the remaining breweries. Most of those are at least worth a visit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 02, 2021, 05:15:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 03:24:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 02, 2021, 03:13:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 03:06:57 pm
Who the hell is Pherm and why are they beating Burley Oak?

Who the hell are any of these breweries...

I've been to 10 of remaining 32, and have heard of most of them. And I don't even live in the state.

I've been to 10 as well of the remaining 32... I still don't know probably 40ish of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 07:43:48 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 02, 2021, 05:15:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 03:24:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 02, 2021, 03:13:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 03:06:57 pm
Who the hell is Pherm and why are they beating Burley Oak?

Who the hell are any of these breweries...

I've been to 10 of remaining 32, and have heard of most of them. And I don't even live in the state.

I've been to 10 as well of the remaining 32... I still don't know probably 40ish of them.

I'm not sure what qualifies as "knowing", but following Downtown Crown on Facebook, I've heard of a vast majority of them (e.g.)the aforementioned Crooked Crab). If knowing them means having tasted their beer, then yeah, there's a lot of them I don't know.

Anyway, anybody have a MD personal top 5 to share? I'm going with:

1. Elder Pine
2. Sapwood
3, Cushwa
4. Burley Oak
5. Still looking for #5
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 02, 2021, 08:20:26 pm
Astrolab
Silver Branch
Diamondback
Cushwa
Burley Oak/Sapwood tied for 5th
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 02, 2021, 10:48:20 pm
Can I count Other Half?  lol
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2021, 09:39:13 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 07:43:48 pm
Anyway, anybody have a MD personal top 5 to share? I'm going with:

1. Elder Pine
2. Sapwood
3, Cushwa
4. Burley Oak
5. Still looking for #5
Am I correct that all of these you can only get at the brewery?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 03, 2021, 09:51:08 am
Quote from: Martian-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2021, 09:39:13 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 02, 2021, 07:43:48 pm
Anyway, anybody have a MD personal top 5 to share? I'm going with:

1. Elder Pine
2. Sapwood
3, Cushwa
4. Burley Oak
5. Still looking for #5
Am I correct that all of these you can only get at the brewery?

Incorrect. You can get cans from Elder Pine, Sapwood, and Cushwa at Downtown Drown. Cushwa also at Dominion, I think. Not sure about other beer stores, those are my two go to stores. Maybe Churchkey beer store would have some of them? Do they each ship ALL their offerings? Probably not, but definitely some good ones.

Burley was shipping a few things to DTC early in the pandemic, but seem to have stopped.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2021, 10:12:40 am
Fuck Gaithersburg and MD alcohol laws
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2021, 10:26:47 am
#triggerWarning

This has sweets and sidefoam written all over it.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/ipa/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2021, 10:38:44 am
$120 for a 12pack...sounds right in my price range

saw this in there
Russian River Brewing Co. (Windsor, California)
Double Dry-Hopped Pliny the Elder (Two Stage Double Dry Hopped Double IPA); 8%; 16oz can
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2021, 11:13:41 am
Three Floyds being sold through CK.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 03, 2021, 11:16:55 am
Got added to Legends' distro this week.  Need to get me some Zombie Dust.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 03, 2021, 11:20:50 am
Quote from: Martian-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2021, 10:38:44 am
$120 for a 12pack...sounds right in my price range

saw this in there
Russian River Brewing Co. (Windsor, California)
Double Dry-Hopped Pliny the Elder (Two Stage Double Dry Hopped Double IPA); 8%; 16oz can

LOL at their Mid-Atlantic beer choice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 03, 2021, 11:25:12 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 03, 2021, 11:16:55 am
Got added to Legends' distro this week.  Need to get me some Zombie Dust.

How recently have you had it?

I got a pack in upstate New York right after they started distributing it there in September. Probably as good as it's always been, but kind of pales in comparison when you're on a steady diet of Other Half and Tree House (or Triple Crossing, or Veil, etc.) Probably about as good as the Lagunitas Born Yesterday I bought at the same time.

Of course, if you've never had it, at least trying it is a must.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 03, 2021, 11:25:21 am
Quote from: Yada on March 02, 2021, 08:20:26 pm
Astrolab
Silver Branch
Diamondback
Cushwa
Burley Oak/Sapwood tied for 5th

You and Space listed many of the really good ones.  Listing a top 3 (Sapwood, Burley, Elder Pine) is easy.  After that not so much.  There are a handful that I really enjoy but am reluctant to say are among the very best MD has to offer. RAR used to be one of them but they've taken a few steps backwards of late. Diamondback, Astro, Cushwa, Checkerspot, Nepenthe and a few others fall into that category.

Checkerspot and Silver Branch have definitely come along.  Didn't care for either of them at first.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 03, 2021, 11:28:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 03, 2021, 11:25:12 am
How recently have you had it?

Been a few years, for sure. Your comment does make me think but I enjoyed the hell out of it previously.

Starting to wonder whether a steady diet of juice bombs has wrecked my palate so I've started backing off of them a bit. Even Pliniy might taste "off" at this point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2021, 11:38:13 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 03, 2021, 11:28:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 03, 2021, 11:25:12 am
How recently have you had it?

Been a few years, for sure. Your comment does make me think but I enjoyed the hell out of it previously.

Starting to wonder whether a steady diet of juice bombs has wrecked my palate so I've started backing off of them a bit. Even Pliniy might taste "off" at this point.

What you said... also good to back off for the sake of your belly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 03, 2021, 01:34:20 pm
That, too. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 04, 2021, 12:34:10 pm
After all the trips I've made to the Three Floyds Brewpub it pick up Zombie Dust, I never dreamed I'd be able to drive to Total Wine here in VA and get it, but that i did yesterday.

The reason this will probably only be a one time purchase....the cans are dated, but they are in packaging where you can't read the can date. I knew the first batch would be relatively fresh (2/18), but in the future, who knows when the cans will be from.

And Zombie Dust drops off quickly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 04, 2021, 01:06:12 pm
Hops really fall off in 48 hrs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 04, 2021, 01:08:05 pm
Have you had any yet? DTC had ZD but I was busy with work and didn't check it out in time.   

Cigar City did the same thing.  When I was in FL I'd pick up Jai Alai cans dated within a week. They've since boxed them and made that impossible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 04, 2021, 02:33:25 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 04, 2021, 01:08:05 pm
Cigar City did the same thing.  When I was in FL I'd pick up Jai Alai cans dated within a week. They've since boxed them and made that impossible.

CC is one of the few craft breweries that my local grocery carries that doesn't date-stamp the outside of their boxes.   i'd be willing to pick some up every now and then if i could figure out how fresh it was... but since i can't, i don't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 04, 2021, 03:47:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 04, 2021, 12:34:10 pm
After all the trips I've made to the Three Floyds Brewpub it pick up Zombie Dust, I never dreamed I'd be able to drive to Total Wine here in VA and get it, but that i did yesterday.

The reason this will probably only be a one time purchase....the cans are dated, but they are in packaging where you can't read the can date. I knew the first batch would be relatively fresh (2/18), but in the future, who knows when the cans will be from.

And Zombie Dust drops off quickly.

There is dating on the ZD packages
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 04, 2021, 04:18:30 pm
for those close to Arlington, The Brewshop has Zombie Dust on tap in 32 oz crowlers to go
not sure when they got the kegs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 04, 2021, 04:37:35 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 04, 2021, 03:47:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 04, 2021, 12:34:10 pm
After all the trips I've made to the Three Floyds Brewpub it pick up Zombie Dust, I never dreamed I'd be able to drive to Total Wine here in VA and get it, but that i did yesterday.

The reason this will probably only be a one time purchase....the cans are dated, but they are in packaging where you can't read the can date. I knew the first batch would be relatively fresh (2/18), but in the future, who knows when the cans will be from.

And Zombie Dust drops off quickly.

There is dating on the ZD packages

Took me a minute, but found it. Thanks. There's a lot going on with the packaging graphics. Wonder if the aforementioned Jai Alai has the same?

Haven't had one yet. Good beer to take on a hike, and next week's looking like hiking weather.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 04, 2021, 04:38:56 pm
Quote from: Freedom Fry-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 04, 2021, 04:18:30 pm
for those close to Arlington, The Brewshop has Zombie Dust on tap in 32 oz crowlers to go
not sure when they got the kegs

I think i saw somewhere else in VA getting a keg, so this sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 04, 2021, 06:07:08 pm
#triggerwarning

(https://i.ibb.co/bbwCk6J/20210304-165800.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 04, 2021, 08:52:08 pm
I know that one’s popular, but what’s the deal with it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 04, 2021, 08:55:33 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 04, 2021, 08:52:08 pm
I know that one’s popular, but what’s the deal with it?

Just a very delicious and crispy pils.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 04, 2021, 09:57:01 pm
gotta admit, it was pretty good
(https://i.imgur.com/z9bAZCo.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2021, 08:14:25 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 04, 2021, 08:52:08 pm
I know that one’s popular, but what’s the deal with it?

https://www.suareztogo.com/padc-mail-order
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 05, 2021, 09:35:01 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 04, 2021, 04:37:35 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 04, 2021, 03:47:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 04, 2021, 12:34:10 pm
After all the trips I've made to the Three Floyds Brewpub it pick up Zombie Dust, I never dreamed I'd be able to drive to Total Wine here in VA and get it, but that i did yesterday.

The reason this will probably only be a one time purchase....the cans are dated, but they are in packaging where you can't read the can date. I knew the first batch would be relatively fresh (2/18), but in the future, who knows when the cans will be from.

And Zombie Dust drops off quickly.

There is dating on the ZD packages

Took me a minute, but found it. Thanks. There's a lot going on with the packaging graphics. Wonder if the aforementioned Jai Alai has the same?

Haven't had one yet. Good beer to take on a hike, and next week's looking like hiking weather.

Tried a can yesterday. Pretty terrible. Malt bomb. Canned 2/8. I'll be taking Palatine Pils on my next hike (thanks Yada)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 05, 2021, 10:02:26 am
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 08:14:25 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 04, 2021, 08:52:08 pm
I know that one’s popular, but what’s the deal with it?

https://www.suareztogo.com/padc-mail-order
$5 a 16 oz can delivered to your door...not too shabby actually
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 05, 2021, 10:30:56 am
Quote from: Neanderthal-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 05, 2021, 10:02:26 am
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 08:14:25 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 04, 2021, 08:52:08 pm
I know that one’s popular, but what’s the deal with it?

https://www.suareztogo.com/padc-mail-order
$5 a 16 oz can delivered to your door...not too shabby actually

Not shipping to VA or MD.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2021, 11:26:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 05, 2021, 10:30:56 am
Quote from: Neanderthal-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 05, 2021, 10:02:26 am
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 08:14:25 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 04, 2021, 08:52:08 pm
I know that one’s popular, but what’s the deal with it?

https://www.suareztogo.com/padc-mail-order
$5 a 16 oz can delivered to your door...not too shabby actually

Not shipping to VA or MD.

I know you guys don't have many friends (KIDDING!!), but you don't know anyone in DC willing to accept a package? Or your wife's office when she's there 70 hours a week?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 05, 2021, 11:33:51 am
can we just have it delivered to the club and pick it up there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 05, 2021, 11:35:36 am
Somebody has to sign for it, I presume? That’s where it gets a little tricky. Thanks for the link, tho. Definitely thinking about it.

And, yeah, if I could pick it up  at the club I’d be able to get the poop bag holder they now have on sale. I got one for free at Anthem and it just broke.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 05, 2021, 11:36:09 am
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 11:26:35 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 05, 2021, 10:30:56 am
Quote from: Neanderthal-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 05, 2021, 10:02:26 am
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 08:14:25 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 04, 2021, 08:52:08 pm
I know that one’s popular, but what’s the deal with it?

https://www.suareztogo.com/padc-mail-order
$5 a 16 oz can delivered to your door...not too shabby actually

Not shipping to VA or MD.

I know you guys don't have many friends (KIDDING!!), but you don't know anyone in DC willing to accept a package? Or your wife's office when she's there 70 hours a week?

All my friends either died, moved out of the area, or don't talk to me anymore. And my wife works 70 hours at home. And my office would not receive an alcohol shipment.

Anyway, if I'm paying a shipping premium, I want it delivered to my door.

Plus, maybe the biggest reason...I just don't get that hard for lagers. Even the best of them. Though I'm about the homebrew a maibock, which I'm hoping will be at least half as good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2021, 11:43:12 am
I get it! It doesn't work for everyone, just trying to spread the beer wealth and knowledge here while accepting shots from all the h8ters.

To be honest, this shipping to DC/PA thing was a complete coincidence that was announced yesterday.

My package process went like this for those who care:

Shipped to my childhood friend who lives in the Hudson Valley in NY >
She works from  home and accepts package via a signature >
Her parents visit her this past weekend in NY >
They take said package back to my hometown >
My parents pick up package and visit me this weekend in MoCO

Peep those logistics.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 05, 2021, 11:50:00 am
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 11:43:12 am
Shipped to my childhood friend who lives in the Hudson Valley in NY >
She works from  home and accepts package via a signature >
Her parents visit her this past weekend in NY >
They take said package back to my hometown >
My parents pick up package and visit me this weekend in MoCO

Peep those logistics.
Dr. Fauci is rolling in his grave.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2021, 12:04:58 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 05, 2021, 11:50:00 am
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 11:43:12 am
Shipped to my childhood friend who lives in the Hudson Valley in NY >
She works from  home and accepts package via a signature >
Her parents visit her this past weekend in NY >
They take said package back to my hometown >
My parents pick up package and visit me this weekend in MoCO

Peep those logistics.
Dr. Fauci is rolling in his grave.

hahaha... I assumed this would be a space comment, but very expected and appropriate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 05, 2021, 12:20:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 12:04:58 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 05, 2021, 11:50:00 am
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 11:43:12 am
Shipped to my childhood friend who lives in the Hudson Valley in NY >
She works from  home and accepts package via a signature >
Her parents visit her this past weekend in NY >
They take said package back to my hometown >
My parents pick up package and visit me this weekend in MoCO

Peep those logistics.
Dr. Fauci is rolling in his grave.

hahaha... I assumed this would be a space comment, but very expected and appropriate.

Since the pandemic began, I have bought or consumed beer in person in eight states plus the DMV. So who am I to judge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 05, 2021, 12:29:06 pm
good thing alcohol kills covid!
you just need to take the first can, shake it up and spray yourself and your companions
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2021, 12:48:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 05, 2021, 12:20:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 12:04:58 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 05, 2021, 11:50:00 am
Quote from: Yada on March 05, 2021, 11:43:12 am
Shipped to my childhood friend who lives in the Hudson Valley in NY >
She works from  home and accepts package via a signature >
Her parents visit her this past weekend in NY >
They take said package back to my hometown >
My parents pick up package and visit me this weekend in MoCO

Peep those logistics.
Dr. Fauci is rolling in his grave.

hahaha... I assumed this would be a space comment, but very expected and appropriate.

Since the pandemic began, I have bought or consumed beer in person in eight states plus the DMV. So who am I to judge.

(https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/vKk3uDijAtpIj5Pv0.wsVg--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NDUwO3E9OTU7dz02MDA-/http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/178314-Dam-Son.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 05, 2021, 07:57:08 pm
Found a cool beer shop in C Ville called Beer Run.

Picked up 3 Floyds.  Zombie Dust. / Dreadnaught  /  Barbarian Haze
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 07, 2021, 03:25:11 pm
Spent the early afternoon at Napenthe today. Top tier brewery? I’d say so but others may disagree. Really nice spot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2021, 03:58:37 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 07, 2021, 03:25:11 pm
Spent the early afternoon at Napenthe today. Top tier brewery? I’d say so but others may disagree. Really nice spot.

What beers did you have?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 07, 2021, 04:27:15 pm
Pretty much everything they had. Tasters of most.

The coconut lager was intriguing but I didn’t get that far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2021, 05:04:33 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 07, 2021, 04:27:15 pm
Pretty much everything they had. Tasters of most.

The coconut lager was intriguing but I didn’t get that far.

How was this one? I had considered getting cans to compare it to the maibock I'm about the brew, but DTC sold out before i got around to it.

VERNAL GENESIS
Maibock Lager   |   abv 6.9%
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 07, 2021, 05:28:07 pm
Didn’t get to that, either.

They didn’t have the imperial stout I wanted. The milkshakes were the least impressive, IMO. The 10% TIPA was sneaky good. Enigmatic and Space Jellyfish were also good.

Nothing stood out as amazingly spectacular but the beers were consistently good. In my book that counts for something.

Definitely going back at the end of the month after my 2nd vaccine shot. Will also visit Celebrated Summer and the skate shop. Love that area of Btown. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 07, 2021, 07:39:27 pm
On way out of town C Ville, found another beer store on Main Street, and found somethings called

Allagash     Heart of Hearts

The Bruery    Frucht

Bearded Iris      Homestyle

Also, seeing how we took the back way home on the greatest road called F. T. Valley Rd . . . stopped by Pen Druid for their sour bottle releases, and spent $300 on as many bottles I could carry

The, end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 07, 2021, 07:53:36 pm
Why are the Pen Druid bottles so much pricier than their on premises draft prices?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 07, 2021, 07:57:42 pm
Easy.  They are hard as shit to get except for Golden Swan . . . which should tell you something about Golden Swan.

Even easier.  They are located in Rappahannock County, where businesses since the start of the Inn at Little Washington, have learned . . . the more popular you become, charge through the roof.  "City folk" will still come.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 07, 2021, 09:27:37 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on March 01, 2021, 03:56:45 pm
2021 MD Brewery Challenge  (https://www.commoninja.com/brackets/lp/6395d739-7045-4d3d-99b5-703e8ce4b77f?fbclid=IwAR0hHeI96f3EXZfpMGQ-qgaf27khym8EX87U5LzYeLxT4eSyMcJWboeyYBs)

1. Sapwood
1st Place

5. Crooked Crab
2nd Place

1. Elder Pine
3rd Place
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 02:09:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2021, 07:53:36 pm
Why are the Pen Druid bottles so much pricier than their on premises draft prices?

is this true in general, or for this particular release?  because charging more for a long-aged sour than for an IPA is pretty standard...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 02:10:55 am
Quote from: excontradiction on March 07, 2021, 09:27:37 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on March 01, 2021, 03:56:45 pm
2021 MD Brewery Challenge  (https://www.commoninja.com/brackets/lp/6395d739-7045-4d3d-99b5-703e8ce4b77f?fbclid=IwAR0hHeI96f3EXZfpMGQ-qgaf27khym8EX87U5LzYeLxT4eSyMcJWboeyYBs)

1. Sapwood
1st Place

5. Crooked Crab
2nd Place

1. Elder Pine
3rd Place

beat me to it.  sapwood posted this on their FB page.

so has anyone been to Crooked Crab?  or even heard of it before this "tournament"?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2021, 08:21:50 am
never heard of CC, but that's not saying much
I did like to see that Black Flag got 666 votes in the semi-finals to lose to sapwood (technically they got 4th)

That CC beat Cushwa and Elder pine are some bragging rights for this week

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or even heard of it before this "tournament"?
had like only 1500 votes max per round...with 64 breweries, seems like mostly friends and family
I could find no info on this other than the link that was provided
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2021, 08:32:03 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 02:10:55 am
Quote from: excontradiction on March 07, 2021, 09:27:37 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on March 01, 2021, 03:56:45 pm
2021 MD Brewery Challenge  (https://www.commoninja.com/brackets/lp/6395d739-7045-4d3d-99b5-703e8ce4b77f?fbclid=IwAR0hHeI96f3EXZfpMGQ-qgaf27khym8EX87U5LzYeLxT4eSyMcJWboeyYBs)

1. Sapwood
1st Place

5. Crooked Crab
2nd Place

1. Elder Pine
3rd Place

beat me to it.  sapwood posted this on their FB page.

so has anyone been to Crooked Crab?  or even heard of it before this "tournament"?

They get Crooked Crab cans and drafts regularly at Downtown Crown. I have not tried any of their beers yet. I don't think they are a hype brewery or anything like Sapwood, probably (guessing) a good but flying below the radar brewery like Elder Pine and Nepenthe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2021, 08:38:05 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 02:09:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 07, 2021, 07:53:36 pm
Why are the Pen Druid bottles so much pricier than their on premises draft prices?

is this true in general, or for this particular release?  because charging more for a long-aged sour than for an IPA is pretty standard...

Pen Druid doesn't do IPAs. Or fruited sours. Or stouts. Wild ales and Belgians only.

Their 26 oz sour bottles typically sell for $35/bottle (if memory serves, but Walkie can correct this.), whereas the same beer on draft is typically $10 for 10 oz (but they pour more.)

Golden Swan, their Belgian golden typically sells for $15 ($16?) for 26 oz bottle (I'm likely going this week on the way home from hiking and can check), whereas the draft price is $8 for 16 oz.

So what I'm saying is that sometimes you have the choice of choosing the same beer from a bottle or draft to consume onsite (or in the case of bottle, take it home), and the bottle is always more expensive. The thing that blows my mind is that I have observed people choosing the bottle for onsite consumption instead of the draft. I'm guessing these people are wine drinkers.

Sorry I'm spacin' out over here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 08, 2021, 09:28:18 am
Quote from: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 02:10:55 am
so has anyone been to Crooked Crab?  or even heard of it before this "tournament"?

Yes, one visit.

They did a pastry stout collab with Sapwood that was memorable. A decent hazy. That’s about it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 08, 2021, 10:06:21 am
Space, you do realize, that people who go to Rappahannock County, VA to eat / drink / sleep / antique . . . don't value money the same way normal people do?  To them, spending more is showing off.

Like 2 people who decide they need a 5 bedroom, 6000 square foot home on 20 acres.  Just, because they can, afford it.

That's the point, of Rappahannock County, VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2021, 10:11:57 am
Quote from: WalkOnBack on March 08, 2021, 10:06:21 am
Space, you do realize, that people who go to Rappahannock County, VA to eat / drink / sleep / antique . . . don't value money the same way normal people do?  To them, spending more is showing off.

Like 2 people who decide they need a 5 bedroom, 6000 square foot home on 20 acres.  Just, because they can, afford it.

That's the point, of Rappahannock County, VA.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom, Walkie.

That, and having a place to hang their oversized MAGA signs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 08, 2021, 10:25:23 am
Quote from: WalkOnBack on March 08, 2021, 10:06:21 am
Space, you do realize, that people who go to Rappahannock County, VA to eat / drink / sleep / antique . . . don't value money the same way normal people do?  To them, spending more is showing off.

Like 2 people who decide they need a 5 bedroom, 6000 square foot home on 20 acres.  Just, because they can, afford it.

That's the point, of Rappahannock County, VA.
Can confirm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 08, 2021, 10:50:24 am
Fantastic
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2021, 10:54:57 am
Quote from: WalkOnBack on March 08, 2021, 10:06:21 am
Like 2 people who decide they need a 5 bedroom, 6000 square foot home on 20 acres.  Just, because they can, afford it.
There are many in Arlington County who will do that on 1/4 acre because they can afford it too...just cost $1.5-2 mil
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 08, 2021, 11:01:38 am
I just don’t understand English anymore

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2021, 11:05:46 am
Quote from: hutch on March 08, 2021, 11:01:38 am
I just don’t understand English anymore

Still smarting over the Harry and Meghan interview?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 08, 2021, 11:23:14 am
I been reading the headlines and small parts of stories .. I have the opposite reaction of most everyone I know or everything I read


But the British royalty is of no interest..


Still they say if you don’t have anything good to say...





Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 08, 2021, 12:12:49 pm
The thing about this Royalty kerfuffle is, as with most things, everyone acts like its a binary. Either "Meghan is a bitch" or "the royal family are dicks," when the most likely explanation is that ALL OF THESE PEOPLE SUCK. Like its OK as a young woke to hold an opinion that yes, the royal family and the institutions around it are outdated and likely racist in some unspoken way and Prince Charles is likely a shitbag AND ALSO the first African-American member of the royal family is obnoxious and ridiculous and did not know what she was signing up for.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 08, 2021, 12:14:08 pm
Basically what Jules said...but additionally, how any ANYONE be shocked that these old frumpy fucks are also racist fucks?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 08, 2021, 12:16:14 pm
Meghan and Harry are so full of it


They moved to Hollywood for privacy? Inked a mega deal with Netflix or whoever for privacy? Get paid millions for interviews for privacy?

Give me a break..

I mean good for them if they want to monetize their “royal status” which was meant to be about serving their subjects  for personal economic gain but just spare me all the BS... these guys come off as grifters

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 03:09:40 pm

Quote from: Space Freely on March 08, 2021, 08:38:05 am
Their 26 oz sour bottles typically sell for $35/bottle (if memory serves, but Walkie can correct this.), whereas the same beer on draft is typically $10 for 10 oz (but they pour more.)

Golden Swan, their Belgian golden typically sells for $15 ($16?) for 26 oz bottle (I'm likely going this week on the way home from hiking and can check), whereas the draft price is $8 for 16 oz.

So what I'm saying is that sometimes you have the choice of choosing the same beer from a bottle or draft to consume onsite (or in the case of bottle, take it home), and the bottle is always more expensive.

well, there is more cost involved in filling a bottle vs. selling a draught: the bottle, the bottling line, the labor involved in running a bottling line and then handling the bottles (boxing, stacking, warehousing, etc.), etc..  the cheapest and most profitable means of getting a beer to a customer is across the bar. 


Quote from: Space Freely on March 08, 2021, 08:38:05 am
Sorry I'm spacin' out over here.

woudn't expect anything less.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 03:09:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 08, 2021, 08:32:03 am
They get Crooked Crab cans and drafts regularly at Downtown Crown. I have not tried any of their beers yet. I don't think they are a hype brewery or anything like Sapwood, probably (guessing) a good but flying below the radar brewery like Elder Pine and Nepenthe.

are you saying sapwood is a "hype brewery"?  or that CC isn't a hype brewery, nor are they like sapwood (in some unspecified way)?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 03:12:37 pm
Quote from: Non-denominational-vinyl ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2021, 08:21:50 am
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or even heard of it before this "tournament"?
had like only 1500 votes max per round...with 64 breweries, seems like mostly friends and family
I could find no info on this other than the link that was provided

sapwood mentioned that this poll/tournament was organized by the Maryland Beer Drinkers Club (https://www.facebook.com/groups/MDBDC/), a group with 10,000 members (on FB, at least). i'd never heard of them before.  FB page was created in 2012.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 08, 2021, 03:52:40 pm
Folks go there to talk and trade, iirc? I don’t have a FB account so I never looked into it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2021, 04:10:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 03:09:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 08, 2021, 08:32:03 am
They get Crooked Crab cans and drafts regularly at Downtown Crown. I have not tried any of their beers yet. I don't think they are a hype brewery or anything like Sapwood, probably (guessing) a good but flying below the radar brewery like Elder Pine and Nepenthe.

are you saying sapwood is a "hype brewery"?  or that CC isn't a hype brewery, nor are they like sapwood (in some unspecified way)?

Sapwood gets a fair share of hype, Crooked Crab does not. That's just my instinct. Could be wrong. They probably both get what they deserve.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 08, 2021, 07:09:12 pm
Being in Odenton doesn't help CC much. At least Sapwood is conveniently located off 95, half-way between Btown and DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 08, 2021, 07:30:44 pm
Riveting
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 08, 2021, 09:49:19 pm
We need a, basic beer thread, for hutch.  Where we discuss PBR vs Devils Backbone and whether to actually put an orange slice into a Blue Moon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 11, 2021, 12:01:52 pm
From AstroLab via Twitter

We have an exciting weekend ahead starting with a mini-tap takeover by our mates at @crookedcrabbrewing! A sneak peak of our upcoming Double IPA collab release, we're psyched be serving two of their beers on tap in our taproom from Friday until they run out. ⠀
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 11, 2021, 12:28:50 pm
the crooked crab world domination plan is coming together!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 11, 2021, 03:38:00 pm
Smart Mouth    Saturday Morning  Marshmallow  Ipa?!


Ugh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 11, 2021, 07:26:10 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on March 11, 2021, 03:38:00 pm
Smart Mouth    Saturday Morning  Marshmallow  Ipa?!


Ugh.
That sounds awful. Marshmallow stout? Maybe. Marshmallow IPA? No way, Jose.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 11, 2021, 11:03:56 pm
Tried my very 1st zombie dust today, which was canned on 2 / 20 . . . and it was uniquely, awful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 12, 2021, 09:04:50 am
Yikes. I'm still very eager to get some but the early feedback is discouraging.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 12, 2021, 09:15:03 am
I had a Zombie Dust last night, and it was fine. Just think West Coast IPA, and you'll be ok.

Heading out to hike Little Devils Stairs in VA today, with a stop at Pen Druid on the way home.

Then hiking Loudoun Heights Sunday, with beer stops TBD....Wheatland Spring, Vanish Farmwoods, and Dynasty are the possibilities (haven't been to any of them.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2021, 10:03:06 am
Vanish is a great spot, I think their offerings are very good, not sure they get the YSOA tho
I love their merch too...with all the 80s punk rock/skater references
best to go when the weather is warm would be my only caveat
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 12, 2021, 10:04:38 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 12, 2021, 09:15:03 am
I had a Zombie Dust last night, and it was fine. Just think West Coast IPA, and you'll be ok.

Exactly what I remembered. Haven’t had an IPA since Sunday and am not planning to get any unless ZD pops up.

Heard good things about Vanish but haven’t had any.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 12, 2021, 10:32:19 am
Quote from: Non-denominational-vinyl ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2021, 10:03:06 am
Vanish is a great spot, I think their offerings are very good, not sure they get the YSOA tho
I love their merch too...with all the 80s punk rock/skater references
best to go when the weather is warm would be my only caveat

Was only their once and the amount of children there was beyond annoying (even bringing my own kids).

Beer was fine, but way too far from where I live to ever go back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 12, 2021, 12:31:27 pm
The amount of children at Pen Druid when I was there, made me buy bottles only, and get the hell out of there.  Maybe it is me, but when I see kids at a brewery / winery / bar . . . I want to call CPS.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 12, 2021, 12:40:01 pm
Aren’t breweries one of the top destinations for kids’ birthday parties?  Parents knock back a few while the kids run themselves into a coma.
M
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 12, 2021, 07:17:06 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on March 12, 2021, 12:31:27 pm
The amount of children at Pen Druid when I was there, made me buy bottles only, and get the hell out of there.  Maybe it is me, but when I see kids at a brewery / winery / bar . . . I want to call CPS.

Never any kids on a Friday afternoon.  Heavenly today. Perfect weather.  I'm going to brag, I'm betting I could outhike any of you as I approach 54 potbelly and all, except maybe grateful.  That said, I bet any of you could outdrink me.

Walkie, what bottles did you get at Pen?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 12, 2021, 07:21:51 pm
Any fans of Wheatland Spring?  I know brennser has been there. Could they be the Suarez of VA?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 12, 2021, 08:43:24 pm
How does one out-hike another?

I am definitely up for a drinking hiking challenge. No puking. Nothing under 7%.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2021, 09:11:55 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 12, 2021, 08:43:24 pm
How does one out-hike another?

1. you get your asses over to my place
2. fill up a growler from the kegerator, put in backpack.
3. we ascend Mailbox Peak via the old ("primitive) trail (https://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/mailbox-peak-old-trail).  we'll allow for going down the new trail (https://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/mailbox-peak).
4. try not to puke. 

good luck.

Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 12, 2021, 08:43:24 pm
I am definitely up for a drinking hiking challenge. No puking. Nothing under 7%.

this can be arranged, just give me at least a month's heads-up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 12, 2021, 09:20:36 pm
I am not sure  if I'm in for the Dino Jr. forum meetup, but i am so ready for a forum hiking drinkoff. Especially if it's within 250 miles of  sweetcell's house.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 13, 2021, 08:50:16 am
A lovely part of the country. Or so I'm told.  Never been.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 14, 2021, 10:36:32 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 12, 2021, 09:15:03 am
I had a Zombie Dust last night, and it was fine. Just think West Coast IPA, and you'll be ok.

Heading out to hike Little Devils Stairs in VA today, with a stop at Pen Druid on the way home.

Then hiking Loudoun Heights Sunday, with beer stops TBD....Wheatland Spring, Vanish Farmwoods, and Dynasty are the possibilities (haven't been to any of them.)

I did Old Rag last week for the first time in about 20 years - it was great! I was surprised at how much ice was still on the trails in parts

Wheatland Spring is good. They have some blended bottled beers that I bet people would rank up with Hill Farmstead in a blind tasting.

Same with Pen Druids Cerise - world class
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 14, 2021, 09:47:18 pm
I did Old Rag back in February. Well, sort of. It was snow covered and took me twice as long, and i stopped at the first big view on the left. Others half my age seemed to be game to tackle the scrambling in the snow and ice, but i headed back down.

Today it was 7 degrees warmer and 7mph less windy in Culpeper as opposed to Harpers Ferry, so we opted to hike White Oak Canyon and hit a couple of farm breweries on the way home...Old Trade in Brandy Station and Barking Rose in Warrenton. Both decent beer with good views and nice outdoor space. Wheatland and Vanish will have to wait for another day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 14, 2021, 10:18:30 pm
Space, I bought a shit ton of Hesperus and Spontaneous Raspberries.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 14, 2021, 10:28:37 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on March 14, 2021, 10:18:30 pm
Space, I bought a shit ton of Hesperus and Spontaneous Raspberries.

Nice! Loved them both.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 16, 2021, 12:32:24 pm
18 different cans dropping from the Veil at Downtown Crown on Thursday.

Anybody else had any of the fruited sours from Drekker, Fourscore, or Cushwa? Really tasty stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 16, 2021, 02:07:10 pm
Are Fourscore beers any good ? Never had em.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 16, 2021, 02:16:45 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 16, 2021, 02:07:10 pm
Are Fourscore beers any good ? Never had em.

Their fruited sours are supposed to be top notch. Jahmba series, Froot Swirlz series, Soft Swerve series. I've only had one or two, which were fantastic. They have quite a few with 4.4+ on untappd with 100+ ratings.

Haven't had any of their other beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 16, 2021, 03:40:54 pm
Thanks. Will need to give them a try.

Any word on what the 18 flavors of the Veil will be? Is OH taking the week off?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 16, 2021, 04:04:42 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on March 16, 2021, 03:40:54 pm
Thanks. Will need to give them a try.

Any word on what the 18 flavors of the Veil will be? Is OH taking the week off?

On Sunday, DTC posted Can #1 on Facebook. On Monday, the posted Cans 2-6. More posts to come.

They had several OHDC offerings yesterday. Seems likely they'll get the usual Other Half NY drop on Thursday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2021, 11:53:26 am
comedian and beer drinker Zane Lamprey (3 sheets and drinking made easy) is doing a comedy tour in breweries
the only close one is Balt's ministry of brewing on Fri, October 8, 2021

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/ministry-of-brewing-zane-lampreys-laughs-drafts-baltimore-md-tickets-146700311581

actually, there is a tbd for DC the next night
OCTOBER 9 | SATURDAY
TBD
WASHINGTON, DC

any one been to that brewery ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 18, 2021, 04:51:22 pm
https://mailchi.mp/3fonteinen/bringing-traditional-lambik-back-to-the-us-5mdr9jbe3t
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 18, 2021, 06:57:49 pm
this just in

3f not a whale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2021, 07:17:31 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 18, 2021, 06:57:49 pm
this just in

3f not a whale
so does that imply it no longer tastes as good because the huddled masses now have easier access?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2021, 08:19:30 am
ok, this is just weird
Introducing Flying Embers limited release Chocolate Reishi Stout, an adaptogenic beer powered by mushrooms. 🙌 
The decadent flavors created by combining the chocolatey goodness of cacao with the mushroom of immortality, Reishi, pays tribute to the classic Irish style Stout but with a superfood twist.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0352/6367/6475/products/Untitled-9-01_1000x1000.gif?v=1615418604)
I mean if the Mushrooms contained psilocybin
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 19, 2021, 08:49:41 am
Quote from: Stingy-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2021, 07:17:31 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 18, 2021, 06:57:49 pm
this just in

3f not a whale
so does that imply it no longer tastes as good because the huddled masses now have easier access?

I have it on good authority that Yadasacker drain poured all his 3F last night in disgust at the thought that regular people might soon have access to it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2021, 10:43:55 am
Quote from: brennser on March 19, 2021, 08:49:41 am
Quote from: Stingy-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2021, 07:17:31 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 18, 2021, 06:57:49 pm
this just in

3f not a whale
so does that imply it no longer tastes as good because the huddled masses now have easier access?

I have it on good authority that Yadasacker drain poured all his 3F last night in disgust at the thought that regular people might soon have access to it

I have it on good authority that Brennser is planning a reunion forum get together on his open aired porch to celebrate the end of the pandemic. It will be open season on his cellar, especially beers that peasants now have access to.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2021, 12:09:20 pm
https://youtu.be/B1JByEDjAko
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 19, 2021, 12:53:15 pm
Are these good prices for those 3F beers?

https://www.thirstypug.com/beer-menus
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2021, 02:31:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 19, 2021, 12:53:15 pm
Are these good prices for those 3F beers?

https://www.thirstypug.com/beer-menus
3 Fonteinen Hommage
Lambic - Fruit · 6.0% · Teirlinckplein Beersel

750ml Bottle $52.99

before tax and tip...sounds like a total bargin
You should get one for everyone in the family
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 19, 2021, 02:46:37 pm
Quote from: Stingy-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2021, 02:31:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 19, 2021, 12:53:15 pm
Are these good prices for those 3F beers?

https://www.thirstypug.com/beer-menus
3 Fonteinen Hommage
Lambic - Fruit · 6.0% · Teirlinckplein Beersel

750ml Bottle $52.99

before tax and tip...sounds like a total bargin
You should get one for everyone in the family

Sure, pick the most expensive one. No need to tip a beer store for a bottle purchase. I google around, that seems to be the going rate for that bottle. That would be a good one to shoplift.

I have a couple of 3F bottles in my cellar from my trip to Italy in 2017. Don't remember what I paid. None of the Hommage though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2021, 02:47:58 pm
You guys spend so much money on beer I think you shouldn’t feel bad about shoplifting some... I mean I am sure if you like it you will buy some more and tell your friends about it so in the end better for the beer artisan..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2021, 03:06:50 pm
guess it's good that you can't stream beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 19, 2021, 03:10:47 pm
I tend to stream beer after 4-5 hours of drinking
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2021, 03:13:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 19, 2021, 12:53:15 pm
Are these good prices for those 3F beers?

https://www.thirstypug.com/beer-menus

Fair enough, not as good when you buy in bulk from Belgium, but not terrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2021, 03:18:50 pm
When you buy direct from the brewery they obviously get to keep more of the money


So if you buy direct most of the time I think even more reason shoplifting a few six packs here or there is OK
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2021, 03:21:12 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 19, 2021, 03:18:50 pm
When you buy direct from the brewery they obviously get to keep more of the money


So if you buy direct most of the time I think even more reason shoplifting a few six packs here or there is OK

I support whatever failed attempt at trolling you're doing here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2021, 03:23:56 pm

Oh you don’t like that? Well then:

Support craft brewers! Pay for what you consume!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2021, 03:25:45 pm
Quote from: hutch on March 19, 2021, 03:23:56 pm

Oh you don’t like that? Well then:

Support craft brewers! Pay for what you consume!

Still supporting whatever you're trying to say here!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2021, 03:27:03 pm
Good good... I see you are coming around to my lo-gic and my awesome metaphoring
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2021, 04:29:05 pm
So how does homebrewing compute here...seem to be cutting out Craft Brewers by brewing my own
are you telling me I'm screwing them and stealing food from their kids mouths?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2021, 05:55:10 pm
Quote from: Stingy-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2021, 04:29:05 pm
So how does homebrewing compute here...seem to be cutting out Craft Brewers by brewing my own
are you telling me I'm screwing them and stealing food from their kids mouths?

Isn’t that the equivalent of recording your own cd? No problem .. DIY!!





Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 20, 2021, 12:10:29 am
in case folks want to participate in another beer bracket "tournament": New England/Hazy IPAs  (https://www.freshhopcinema.com/beermadness)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 21, 2021, 10:09:07 pm
Tried my first OH DC beer this weekend.  Heard good and bad about them but I'd rather make up my own mind.

First one was a bit off. Disappointing. Will give the second a go tomorrow.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 22, 2021, 09:35:55 am
As it happens I had what I think are my first 2 semi decent OHDC beers this weekend - Triple Dream Cut Imperial Oat Dream and Triple Crushed Gems

Spent an idyllic afternoon at Wheatland spring yesterday - perfect temps and a fantastic new IPA on tap - Test of Time - been a long time since I stuck to a single beer at a brewery but I did just that yesterday
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2021, 09:50:11 am
Quote from: brennser on March 22, 2021, 09:35:55 am

Spent an idyllic afternoon at Wheatland spring yesterday - perfect temps and a fantastic new IPA on tap - Test of Time - been a long time since I stuck to a single beer at a brewery but I did just that yesterday
mmm.. Only a few miles off the WO&D trail...
is charlestown pike (rt9) or Berlin Highway even remotely bikable?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2021, 10:53:37 am
Brewed a maibock on Saturday. It will be ready in May.

Was going to go enjoy the idyliic weather with  a dog walk at Rachel Carson and some 2nd Anniversary beers at Elder Pine, but my kid whined that she didn't want to spend her day doing that and my wife caved to her wishes. Maybe next weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 22, 2021, 11:34:23 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2021, 10:53:37 am
Brewed a maibock on Saturday. It will be ready in May.

Was going to go enjoy the idyliic weather with  a dog walk at Rachel Carson and some 2nd Anniversary beers at Elder Pine, but my kid whined that she didn't want to spend her day doing that and my wife caved to her wishes. Maybe next weekend.

Nothing like ending up with a few gallons of undrinkable Maibock!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 22, 2021, 12:15:51 pm
Based on the roads I drove to get there and the traffic on those roads I would not feel comfortable biking but maybe there are quieter access points - and I bike a lot
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 22, 2021, 12:20:36 pm
I always think of maibock as a fall beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2021, 12:31:44 pm
I think of the post office and heavy dark beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2021, 12:41:29 pm
Maibock is a traditional strong, malty Bavarian lager. Like the month for which it is named (“Mai” is German for “May”), it is a transitional beer, the perfect drink for the short Bavarian spring. In the Bavarian Alps, May is the brief season between the last thaw and the first bloom, when it is still too cool to linger in the beer gardens, but already too bright outside to hide indoors in the beer halls. Although brewed to bock strength—with about 6% to 7% alcohol by volume and a substantial body— maibock is light amber to deep golden in color. This sets it apart from the darker winter bocks, hence its other name, heller bock (pale bock). Maibock tends to be made from a base of pale pilsner malt with generous additions of Vienna malt, Munich malt, and/or other lightly caramelized malts. See pilsner malt. Compared with the winter bocks, maibocks also tend to have slightly more hop bitterness and hop flavor from noble Bavarian hop varieties. Most maibocks are still made by the time-honored and labor-intensive decoction method, during which portions of the main mash are drawn into a separate cooker and boiled there before being returned to the main mash. Decoction ensures optimum conversion of grain starches into fermentable malt sugars, which results in the desired high alcohol content. After fermentation, maibocks are allowed to mature and mellow out near the freezing point for 4 to 8 weeks for a well-rounded finish.

https://beerandbrewing.com/dictionary/QSXxX3A4yM/#:~:text=Maibock%20is%20a%20traditional%20strong,for%20the%20short%20Bavarian%20spring.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2021, 12:45:33 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 22, 2021, 12:15:51 pm
Based on the roads I drove to get there and the traffic on those roads I would not feel comfortable biking but maybe there are quieter access points - and I bike a lot
That's why the question was directed towards you.   
5 miles on a bad road isn't even an option....heck 1 mile on a bad road sucks

Really only two roads from the bike path to get there...lots of big farmland/lots that don't have roads

They do have a cute cottage for rental, but two night minimum ;(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2021, 12:47:08 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on March 22, 2021, 12:20:36 pm
I always think of maibock as a fall beer.
Germans aren't to fancy with their names
Maibock is a May-bock
edit-I see Space put the full def there
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 22, 2021, 12:56:22 pm
If asked, I will refer to this as the thing I learned today. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 22, 2021, 10:53:26 pm
Second OHDC beer was m-u-c-h better than the first. There’s hope......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 25, 2021, 06:02:59 pm
Surround Sound by Creative Arts is quite tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 26, 2021, 09:55:48 pm
It really is funny about sweet water tavern's beer and how that 99.9% of it is OK at best but then all of a sudden they have this one beer that's available and you can get pints of it, or a growler of it, and it knocks your socks off. So I say kudos too sweet water tavern and their beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 29, 2021, 02:46:10 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CNAx3TShlr7/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2021, 02:55:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 29, 2021, 02:46:10 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CNAx3TShlr7/

When breweries decide to ship to VA, DC, OR, and PA, how do they arrive at shipping to Oregon? It seems kind of random.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 29, 2021, 02:59:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 29, 2021, 02:55:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 29, 2021, 02:46:10 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CNAx3TShlr7/

When breweries decide to ship to VA, DC, OR, and PA, how do they arrive at shipping to Oregon? It seems kind of random.

hahah... I posted the same thing in a different beer thread. I really don't know... I'm guessing some sort of easy unique booze transport law to those states.

Edit: More importantly, how do they skip MD!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2021, 07:50:02 am
Quote from: WalkOnBack on February 22, 2021, 10:07:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 22, 2021, 09:42:55 pm
I have too many sour ipa's and fruited sours sitting in fridge, but if I needed some this would be good news... Hudson Valley Brewery now shipping to VA and DC. Not sure about MD.

I have never had their products, but I worship sours and sour ipas.  Maybe I will order one of each of their 4 packs, just to see.

Shipping:

$15 for two four packs
$20 for thee four packs
$20 for four four packs
$25 for five four packs

Four packs of sour IPA's are in the $20-$22 range.

Anybody want to split an order of four four packs of sour IPA's? Would come out to about $50 for eight cans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2021, 08:21:04 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 30, 2021, 07:50:02 am
Anybody want to split an order of four four packs of sour IPA's? Would come out to about $50 for eight cans.
and save $5...
Be different if you were neighbors or met up regularly (unless I'm left out of all the regular bordie meetups)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2021, 08:40:45 am
Quote from: stretched with venom ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2021, 08:21:04 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 30, 2021, 07:50:02 am
Anybody want to split an order of four four packs of sour IPA's? Would come out to about $50 for eight cans.
and save $5...
Be different if you were neighbors or met up regularly (unless I'm left out of all the regular bordie meetups)

For the record, my motivation is to try more beers without having to buy four of the same beer. I'd rather have four two packs than two four packs. The $5 saved would be lost in gas to get somewhere to meet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2021, 10:03:29 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 30, 2021, 08:40:45 am
The $5 saved would be lost in gas to get somewhere to meet.
not if you rode your bike ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 31, 2021, 03:21:46 pm
I am headed to CA this weekend and NOLA next weekend and looking forward to checking out breweries in both places - in a COVID responsible manner of course

I will also be picking up some beer that has been accumulating for me on the West Coast for the past year including a 3L bottle of RR beatification
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2021, 04:19:56 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 31, 2021, 03:21:46 pm
including a 3L bottle of RR beatification

Sounds like the perfect bottle to pair with the 930 forum outing at Case de Brennser. 4oz pours for everyone!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2021, 04:25:14 pm
Nice little Ocelot drop tomorrow at DTC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2021, 04:54:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 31, 2021, 04:19:56 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 31, 2021, 03:21:46 pm
including a 3L bottle of RR beatification

Sounds like the perfect bottle to pair with the 930 forum outing at Case de Brennser. 4oz pours for everyone!

I'll bring the Unibroue and home blend of Founders beers!

We'll be in California in July. We'll be as far south as San Diego and as far north as San Luis Obispo/Paso Robles. Any must hit breweries (or wineries) in that geographic range? I'm not sure what will be open for in-person...and will probably only go to places that have outdoor areas.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 31, 2021, 05:04:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 31, 2021, 04:54:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 31, 2021, 04:19:56 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 31, 2021, 03:21:46 pm
including a 3L bottle of RR beatification

Sounds like the perfect bottle to pair with the 930 forum outing at Case de Brennser. 4oz pours for everyone!

I'll bring the Unibroue and home blend of Founders beers!

We'll be in California in July. We'll be as far south as San Diego and as far north as San Luis Obispo/Paso Robles. Any must hit breweries (or wineries) in that geographic range? I'm not sure what will be open for in-person...and will probably only go to places that have outdoor areas.

I'm not sure I have up to date suggestions for any of these places but here goes

Paso Robles - Firestone Walker
LA - Smog City (outdoor space), Monkish (outdoor space - personally I think they are way overrated), Mumford (not sure if outdoor space), Bottle Logic (not sure if outdoor).
San Diego - too many to name - don't know what's hot or even still open - Alesmith, Societe, Bottlecraft at Liberty Station for great draft selection and great food options
SanDiego
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2021, 11:05:42 am
Quote from: brennser on March 31, 2021, 05:04:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 31, 2021, 04:54:03 pm
Quote from: Yada on March 31, 2021, 04:19:56 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 31, 2021, 03:21:46 pm
including a 3L bottle of RR beatification

Sounds like the perfect bottle to pair with the 930 forum outing at Case de Brennser. 4oz pours for everyone!

I'll bring the Unibroue and home blend of Founders beers!

We'll be in California in July. We'll be as far south as San Diego and as far north as San Luis Obispo/Paso Robles. Any must hit breweries (or wineries) in that geographic range? I'm not sure what will be open for in-person...and will probably only go to places that have outdoor areas.

I'm not sure I have up to date suggestions for any of these places but here goes

Paso Robles - Firestone Walker
LA - Smog City (outdoor space), Monkish (outdoor space - personally I think they are way overrated), Mumford (not sure if outdoor space), Bottle Logic (not sure if outdoor).
San Diego - too many to name - don't know what's hot or even still open - Alesmith, Societe, Bottlecraft at Liberty Station for great draft selection and great food options
SanDiego

Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll make it to Orange County (Bottle Logic), and our vacation schedule makes Monkish iffy (depends on if they go back to seven days a week, if not maybe we'll be able to grab some cans the day we land). Staying for a couple nights in Santa Monica, not sure if we'll make it into LA proper (though my kid wants to selfie the Hollywood sign)

 Case Agria is another one I'd like to hit that's actually on our driving route, but i don't think our schedule matches up.

There are multiple Firestone Walkers and Modern Times in our line of fire, so we'll hit those for sure.

I've been to some of the old San Diego County classics before, so looking for new blood. North Park looks like it might fit the bill. I think I went to Toronado SD in that neighborhood previously, but they closed.  I think we're also staying close to one of the Lost Abbey locations for a few days.

It's hard to plan a vacation in a state where so much is still closed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 02, 2021, 11:18:33 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 02, 2021, 11:05:42 am
It's hard to plan a vacation in a state where so much is still closed.

Absent a massive resurgence due to a variant, you will have very little to worry about come July.  LA and Orange County are already in the Orange Tier and San Diego will likely follow next week.  SLO might be a few more weeks.  We are attempting to open to 16+ for vaccines on April 15 (supply permitting) and unless Easter weekend goes very poorly, we should be in yellow throughout most of the state by mid-May.

I would plan for a nearly completely opened restaurant/bar scene for July and choose indoor vs outdoor based on your own personal comfort.

And follow this page: https://covid19.ca.gov/safer-economy/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 02, 2021, 11:20:47 am
Quote from: brennser on March 31, 2021, 03:21:46 pm
I am headed to CA this weekend

If you're in the Bay Area, you've got my number.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2021, 11:26:42 am
Quote from: vansmack on April 02, 2021, 11:18:33 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 02, 2021, 11:05:42 am
It's hard to plan a vacation in a state where so much is still closed.

Absent a massive resurgence due to a variant, you will have very little to worry about come July.  LA and Orange County are already in the Orange Tier and San Diego will likely follow next week.  SLO might be a few more weeks.  We are attempting to open to 16+ for vaccines on April 15 (supply permitting) and unless Easter weekend goes very poorly, we should be in yellow throughout most of the state by mid-May.

I would plan for a nearly completely opened restaurant/bar scene for July and choose indoor vs outdoor based on your own personal comfort.

And follow this page: https://covid19.ca.gov/safer-economy/

Thanks. We've also got an adjustable amount of days planned for Yosemite. Some of the activities are just hikes we can drive to, but others are dependent on  COVID reopenings (as well as Mariposa Grove reopening, which is not COVID related.)

If Yosemite turns out to be too much of a shitshow, I may readjust the schedule and go as far north as Santa Cruz. In that case, it's good to hear that Highway 1 is scheduled to reopen in full on July 1 (regardless of what April Fools jokes may say.)

If
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 02, 2021, 11:50:30 am
Who else was lucky enough to snag the Cantillon spring pack this morning?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2021, 11:56:35 am
Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2021, 11:50:30 am
Who else was lucky enough to snag the Cantillon spring pack this morning?

I did, but i traded it to Hutch for two Crazy Horse tickets.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2021, 12:02:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 02, 2021, 11:56:35 am
Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2021, 11:50:30 am
Who else was lucky enough to snag the Cantillon spring pack this morning?

I did, but i traded it to Hutch for two Crazy Horse tickets.
unwise choice
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 02, 2021, 12:19:45 pm
Quote from: Side-Plogging ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2021, 12:02:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 02, 2021, 11:56:35 am
Quote from: Yada on April 02, 2021, 11:50:30 am
Who else was lucky enough to snag the Cantillon spring pack this morning?

I did, but i traded it to Hutch for two Crazy Horse tickets.
unwise choice

Should be a good tour. They're doing 100% Purity Ring covers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2021, 08:56:33 pm
Quote from: brennser on March 14, 2021, 10:36:32 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 12, 2021, 09:15:03 am
I had a Zombie Dust last night, and it was fine. Just think West Coast IPA, and you'll be ok.

Heading out to hike Little Devils Stairs in VA today, with a stop at Pen Druid on the way home.

Then hiking Loudoun Heights Sunday, with beer stops TBD....Wheatland Spring, Vanish Farmwoods, and Dynasty are the possibilities (haven't been to any of them.)

I did Old Rag last week for the first time in about 20 years - it was great! I was surprised at how much ice was still on the trails in parts

Wheatland Spring is good. They have some blended bottled beers that I bet people would rank up with Hill Farmstead in a blind tasting.

Same with Pen Druids Cerise - world class

Cerise is currently on draft at Dominion in Falls Church, in case anyone wants to try it without having to drive the Sperryville.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 05, 2021, 04:47:27 pm
https://theknow.denverpost.com/2021/04/05/gabf-2021-cancelled/255844/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2021, 08:14:54 am
Went hiking yesterday and stopped by Cushwa for the first time. Had a very good DIPA, but most impressive was the best ice cream fruited sour I've ever had in my life.

Pros: Great beer and great good
Cons:picnic tables give you a view of I-81, outdoor area could use some music

https://untappd.com/b/cushwa-brewing-company-ben-and-garry-s/4234562

We had the boy from FourScore Beer Company, Ben Little, come up to collab and try to teach us his ways. If you’ve been paying attention to what he’s been cranking out, you know he brings the thicccness with all of his fruited sour series, and they’re absolute fire. The result of his tutelage is this insane Mango Pistachio Vanilla Soft Serve Ice Cream fruited sour. This is our thickest beer to date. Packed with the most amount of mango we’ve ever used, a ridiculous amount of top-secret ice cream treatment, and more pistachios than you could eat in one sitting (If you are anything like us you can eat a bunch at one time). Straight mango, creamy sweetness with a nice pistachio taste to meld it all together. CONTAINS LACTOSE AND NUTS*

Seems like they would get in trouble for the name and label art, but what do i know?

(https://scontent.fewr1-6.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/167853550_10226227692658073_3611432214595602834_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=T0ZN7LmHVqYAX9eLuIW&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-6.fna&oh=2cc97c35145ed61438a161c608b8ed5f&oe=60935513)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2021, 10:19:46 am
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2021, 04:47:27 pm
https://theknow.denverpost.com/2021/04/05/gabf-2021-cancelled/255844/

Funny that a beer fest in October is being cancelled, while one in April is being held.

https://www.facebook.com/jwakefieldbeer/photos/3785128528191548
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 06, 2021, 11:21:11 am
I’d like to get to Cushwa myself one day. I’m never out that way so it ain’t happening any time soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2021, 11:36:34 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2021, 10:19:46 am
Quote from: Yada on April 05, 2021, 04:47:27 pm
https://theknow.denverpost.com/2021/04/05/gabf-2021-cancelled/255844/

Funny that a beer fest in October is being cancelled, while one in April is being held.

https://www.facebook.com/jwakefieldbeer/photos/3785128528191548
this was interesting to see being in FL:
•Proof of COVID-19 Vaccination (2x)   
•NEGATIVE COVID-19 test result taken up to 72 hours prior to the event   
(name on these documents MUST match ticket holder, no exceptions!)   
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: K8teebug on April 06, 2021, 12:10:51 pm
Love Cushwa. Excited to see their new tap room. Will get there one day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2021, 03:11:40 pm
i went to my local (https://forum.930.com/volitionbrewing.com/) yesterday for the first time in over a year.  we have been buying occasional crowlers-to-go from them but haven't set foot inside since the before times.  t'was a gorgeous day to be sitting outside in their expanded outdoor seating.  had two of their IPAs which were delish.  met up with another homebrewer (meeting non-family in public again = weird) and the owner-brewer sat with us for a while.  chatted a lot about how the brewery has survived for the past year.  he attributed everything to the goodwill they accumulated before the pandemic thus motivating the community to step up and keep buying from them.  we tasted my first lager (frankly sucks), my barrel-aged imperial milk stout (a hit) and my peach sour (an even bigger hit).

in other news, someone brought me cans of Cloudburst this past weekend.  i wasn't aware that they had started canning during the pandemic, but i should have known they were since every brewery has pivoted to cans and bottles.  if you click though the image below to its full-size version, you'll see they printed "don't trade" on the label (left-most can, on the skeleton-astronaut).

(https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/191313-2040x1360.jpg) (https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/191313-2040x1360.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2021, 03:23:30 pm
not that I ever do that...but why would they care if people trade?  (I assume they mean people like Yada/bres who make a side business out of porch bombs)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2021, 03:50:26 pm
Quote from: SidebySide ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2021, 03:23:30 pm
not that I ever do that...but why would they care if people trade?  (I assume they mean people like Yada/bres who make a side business out of porch bombs)

quality control.  trading = shipping = beer sitting in a hot truck or warehouse for days on end, plus the packaging may not be meant for travel (growlers, crowlers, etc.).  so the concerns is that the recipient gets an oxidized, heat-stressed beer that doesn't taste the way it should, so they say "that brewery sucks!"  thus the brewery takes a reputational hit for something they have no control over.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2021, 03:52:32 pm
I'm sure they are respectable, but is anybody clamoring for a Cloudburst trade? Yada? Brennser?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2021, 05:35:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2021, 03:52:32 pm
I'm sure they are respectable, but is anybody clamoring for a Cloudburst trade? Yada? Brennser?

No. Can confirm. I also can confirm that I haven't traded beer in two maybe three years, but my guess cloudburst is getting no bad reputation for a beer sitting on a truck for 24 extra hours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2021, 05:35:59 pm
Are we allowed to talk about hard-booch in this thread?

The Brand has been trying to get me to drink kombucha for years for my gut, but I have been ignoring the request.  She brought home some Kombucha with alcohol so of course I'll give that a shot.

Turns out it's pretty good.  I mean, I only drink one a day, but I feel like my craps are better. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2021, 05:36:23 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2021, 05:37:02 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2021, 05:41:16 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 06, 2021, 05:35:59 pm
Are we allowed to talk about hard-booch in this thread?

The Brand has been trying to get me to drink kombucha for years for my gut, but I have been ignoring the request.  She brought home some Kombucha with alcohol so of course I'll give that a shot.

Turns out it's pretty good.  I mean, I only drink one a day, but I feel like my craps are better. 

fucking california hippies
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2021, 05:43:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2021, 03:52:32 pm
I'm sure they are respectable, but is anybody clamoring for a Cloudburst trade? Yada? Brennser?

i'll bet katiebug is interested ;D


cloudburst does have an above-average reputation for their hazies (voted seattle's best several times), and until the pandemic they never canned/bottle - it was all draft, and mostly only on-site.  so i could see there being some pent-up demand.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2021, 05:57:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 06, 2021, 05:43:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2021, 03:52:32 pm
I'm sure they are respectable, but is anybody clamoring for a Cloudburst trade? Yada? Brennser?

i'll bet katiebug is interested ;D


cloudburst does have an above-average reputation for their hazies (voted seattle's best several times), and until the pandemic they never canned/bottle - it was all draft, and mostly only on-site.  so i could see there being some pent-up demand.

I've been to the brewery and sure it's solid,  but I'm sure as hell not shipping beer 3k miles to get cloud burst hazy cans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2021, 05:57:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 06, 2021, 05:41:16 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 06, 2021, 05:35:59 pm
Are we allowed to talk about hard-booch in this thread?

The Brand has been trying to get me to drink kombucha for years for my gut, but I have been ignoring the request.  She brought home some Kombucha with alcohol so of course I'll give that a shot.

Turns out it's pretty good.  I mean, I only drink one a day, but I feel like my craps are better. 

fucking california hippies
Kinda wanted to see what Yada said

good Kombucha typically has alcohol
In CA they made this big deal about kids and you now have to show id to get the Booch with an ABV

if it's good for your gut...it's good for you
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2021, 06:11:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 06, 2021, 05:41:16 pm
fucking california hippies

I know your wife.

Quote from: SidebySide ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2021, 05:57:57 pm
Kinda wanted to see what Yada said

Ditto. 

Quote from: SidebySide ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2021, 05:57:57 pm
good Kombucha typically has alcohol
In CA they made this big deal about kids and you now have to show id to get the Booch with an ABV

if it's good for your gut...it's good for you

This isn't just regular kombucha - they've upped the anti to a point that peaked my interest.  4.8% to 8% per 12 oz can....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2021, 06:12:18 pm
I have no opinions nor have I ever tasted kombucha...

I do support good dumps though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2021, 06:16:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 06, 2021, 05:57:21 pm
but I'm sure as hell not shipping beer 3k miles to get cloud burst hazy cans.

agreed, hazies don't travel well - hence the "don't trade" request on the can.  we've come full circle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: hutch on April 06, 2021, 06:17:41 pm
Riveting stuff today...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2021, 06:39:06 pm
Space, our Governor announced today:

On June 15, California will fully open its economy if two criteria are met:

- If vaccine supply is sufficient for Californians 16 years and older who wish to be inoculated; and
- If hospitalization rates are stable and low

Pretty good chance on both of those.  Masks will still be required in some situations.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2021, 09:26:28 pm
Quote from: vansmack on April 06, 2021, 06:39:06 pm
Space, our Governor announced today:

On June 15, California will fully open its economy if two criteria are met:

- If vaccine supply is sufficient for Californians 16 years and older who wish to be inoculated; and
- If hospitalization rates are stable and low

Pretty good chance on both of those.  Masks will still be required in some situations.

Thanks Vansmack. That's indeed good news. Keep up the good work California!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 06, 2021, 10:05:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2021, 03:52:32 pm
I'm sure they are respectable, but is anybody clamoring for a Cloudburst trade? Yada? Brennser?

No
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 07, 2021, 11:01:50 am
On this day in 1933, prohibition on the sale of beer was repealed in the United States. That’s why every year on April 7th, America raises a glass to celebrate it’s favorite alcoholic beverage.

As part of National Beer Day, Boston’s Sam Adams announced that they are giving away a free beer with proof of COVID-19 vaccination.

Below is a list of all the different Montgomery County breweries you can grab a pint at as part of the celebration.

Astro Lab Brewing: Silver Spring
Brookeville Beer Farm: Brookeville
Denizen’s Brewing Company Silver Spring
Elder Pine Brewing and Blending Co. Gaithersburg
Lone Oak Farm Brewing Co. Olney
Saints Row Brewing: Rockville
7 Locks Brewing: Rockville
Silver Branch Brewing Company Silver Spring
True Respite Brewing Company Rockville
Waredaca Brewing Company Gaithersburg
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 07, 2021, 11:09:23 am
Quote from: shemptiness on April 07, 2021, 11:01:50 am
On this day in 1933, prohibition on the sale of beer was repealed in the United States. That’s why every year on April 7th, America raises a glass to celebrate it’s favorite alcoholic beverage.

As part of National Beer Day, Boston’s Sam Adams announced that they are giving away a free beer with proof of COVID-19 vaccination.

Below is a list of all the different Montgomery County breweries you can grab a pint at as part of the celebration.

Astro Lab Brewing: Silver Spring
Brookeville Beer Farm: Brookeville
Denizen’s Brewing Company Silver Spring
Elder Pine Brewing and Blending Co. Gaithersburg
Lone Oak Farm Brewing Co. Olney
Saints Row Brewing: Rockville
7 Locks Brewing: Rockville
Silver Branch Brewing Company Silver Spring
True Respite Brewing Company Rockville
Waredaca Brewing Company Gaithersburg

Is there a list for Fairfax County?

Ironically, I serve wine with dinner maybe once every two weeks, and tonight is a wine night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 07, 2021, 12:05:33 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 07, 2021, 11:01:50 am
Below is a list of all the different Montgomery County breweries you can grab buy a pint at as part of the celebration.

I presume this is what you meant? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 07, 2021, 02:40:46 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 07, 2021, 12:05:33 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 07, 2021, 11:01:50 am
Below is a list of all the different Montgomery County breweries you can grab buy a pint at as part of the celebration.

I presume this is what you meant?

I actually copied/pasted verbatim off the Moco FB page. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 07, 2021, 02:42:12 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 07, 2021, 12:05:33 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 07, 2021, 11:01:50 am
Below is a list of all the different Montgomery County breweries you can grab buy a pint at as part of the celebration.

I presume this is what they meant? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 07, 2021, 02:45:00 pm
Well I know for sure that Brew Belly has 1/2 price drafts today.  Doesn't include crowlers tho.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 07, 2021, 04:03:18 pm
Had a case of Suarez cans shipped to me that ended up leaking/one can was broke...

Suarez followed up, apologized, and even after I said it wasn't necessary sent me another half case of beer, free of charge.

Now that is what you call good customer service.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2021, 04:25:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 07, 2021, 04:03:18 pm
sent me another half case of beer, free of charge.

I'll be by around 6:30 to pick up my 4-pack, thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 08, 2021, 12:34:31 pm
Sapwood is offering a brett horizontal tasting. Cool opportunity to learn about a few things this"wild yeast" can do:

"Today we're tapping six new beers... sort of, and the Chicken Box Truck will be here! Since October we've had six kegs of our Belgian Single getting funky with different strains/blends of the wild microbe Brettanomyces (Brett) from White Labs and Omega Yeast. We'll have all of them on tap today-only if you're interested in side-by-side tasting the range of earthy, pineapple, hay, and mango aromatics created by time and fermentation! Fun if you are a homebrewer interested in brewing with Brett, or just as a beer drinker interested in expanding your palate!

Brett is a big part of our barrel-aged sour beer program, but it doesn't create the sourness. All six Brett Trials are dry with snappy carbonation, but from there they have diverged considerably."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2021, 12:40:16 pm
man that does sound cool...too bad Columbia MD is about as convenient as root canal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 08, 2021, 07:35:42 pm
Quote from: SidebySide ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2021, 12:40:16 pm
man that does sound cool...too bad Columbia MD is about as convenient as root canal

TAN: i've only had one root canal in my life, and frankly it was a life-saver.  whatever i had going on inside my tooth was by far the most painful thing i had ever experienced.  ever.  i was a wreck for days.  i was told i needed a root canal but the very words scared me so i avoided it but eventually the pain forced me into the dentist's chair.  the second that the dentist got to the center of my tooth and relieved the pressure was one of the most blissful moments ever.  i was hopped up on major painkillers so between the buzz and the instant pain relief, the overall experience of my root canal was positive for me.  i'm fully aware of how abnormal my assessment is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2021, 08:47:15 pm
lol, my stomach hurts
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 10, 2021, 10:01:19 am
I've had a root canal, and several other things in my life hurt more, physically. I was told there was  about a 20% chance of my tooth surviving the root canal, and it did. No problems since. Good thing i had a great specialist.

Anyway, if any of you homebrewers are looking to start a brewery, and want to move to Asheville, this one looks quite reasonable.

https://www.bizquest.com/business-for-sale/large-capacity-brewery-in-western-north-carolina/BW1759382/?q=bD1TMzUmbHR5cGU9NDAmbz0xJmt3aWQ9MTA2&psn=6
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2021, 08:25:17 am
aslin making a special beer for DC's Funk Parade (2nd time)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/173231957_4241187802582794_3216604634594361744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=2c4854&_nc_ohc=nchG0ikwqK0AX_ouKDL&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=61924b0b787a1a7adc847a5463f3331c&oe=609C9FA1)

sour ale made with blackberry, dragon fruit, passion fruit, vanilla, and milk sugar! 💜
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2021, 09:14:22 am
I had most of a can of an Aslin stout last night. It was so, so sweet I had to do something I've rarely done...pour beer down the drain. I have three other Aslin cans of assorted pastry stouts in the cellar, but after those I'm done with Aslin stouts.

Going to visit my brother this weekend, maybe I'll gift him a couple.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 13, 2021, 10:26:20 am
Been eons since I’ve had one of their stouts.

Did they ever open up the space in Herndon?  Been to the other one and wouldn’t go out of my way to return.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2021, 10:29:50 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 13, 2021, 10:26:20 am
Did they ever open up the space in Herndon?  Been to the other one and wouldn’t go out of my way to return.
I think it feel apart...looked like a cool space tho with Bocce on the roof

I picked up some Aslin in Trader Joes this week....really jumping the shark
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2021, 10:39:02 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on April 13, 2021, 10:26:20 am
Been eons since I’ve had one of their stouts.

Did they ever open up the space in Herndon?  Been to the other one and wouldn’t go out of my way to return.

Yes, they did. During COVID. Haven't been. Alexandria is closer for me, plus COVID.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 13, 2021, 11:06:43 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 13, 2021, 09:14:22 am
I had most of a can of an Aslin stout last night. It was so, so sweet I had to do something I've rarely done...pour beer down the drain. I have three other Aslin cans of assorted pastry stouts in the cellar, but after those I'm done with Aslin stouts.

Going to visit my brother this weekend, maybe I'll gift him a couple.

Drinking more than 2oz of any of their stouts is a master class in gluttony.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2021, 05:29:31 pm
Picked up a Cushwa - Illusory Correlation - Schwarzbier Ale at my local bottle shop in NOVA
and it's quite tasty,
cans were dated, but impossible to read

they also had cans of ElderPine that were dated too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 10:06:07 am
Fully vaccinated, we hit Other Half DC for the first time yesterday. Nice space. Brought our own snacks, but food options would be welcome. Their IPA's are of course good, but wish they made a wider range of styles. Also, only 10 draft lines compared to 36 different cans to choose from.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2021, 10:49:31 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 10:06:07 am
but food options would be welcome.
There are a ton of good food options within walking distance and most of them will deliver for free
they brought us all the menus when we were there
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2021, 01:38:59 pm
last week the family and i ventured into outer space, AKA outside our little town.  we went to Leavenworth, WA, a quaint little tourist destination that looks like it was ripped out of the bavarian alps.  every building looks like something out of the sound of music (including starbucks and mcD's, which was hilarious).  the beer scene is predictable for a place that pretends to be german and is a few hours away from where most of this country's hops are grown: it's all lagers and IPAs.

best german-style beer i had was Chuckanut's pilsner.  gimme a warm pretzel and i could drink gallons of the stuff.  had an excellent Oktoberfest by Ayinger, and a very tasty doppelbock by a local brewery Icicle.

on the IPA side, the three breweries we dropped in on were all singing the praises of two new hops: Talus and Strata.  everything that i had that was made with either of those hops was amazing.  keep an eye out for these two if you haven't come across them yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 19, 2021, 01:51:46 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 19, 2021, 01:38:59 pm
last week the family and i ventured into outer space, AKA outside our little town.  we went to Leavenworth, WA, a quaint little tourist destination that looks like it was ripped out of the bavarian alps.  every building looks like something out of the sound of music (including starbucks and mcD's, which was hilarious).  the beer scene is predictable for a place that pretends to be german and is a few hours away from where most of this country's hops are grown: it's all lagers and IPAs.

best german-style beer i had was Chuckanut's pilsner.  gimme a warm pretzel and i could drink gallons of the stuff.  had an excellent Oktoberfest by Ayinger, and a very tasty doppelbock by a local brewery Icicle.

on the IPA side, the three breweries we dropped in on were all singing the praises of two new hops: Talus and Strata.  everything that i had that was made with either of those hops was amazing.  keep an eye out for these two if you haven't come across them yet.

can confirm

(https://craftpeak-cooler-images.imgix.net/other-half-brewing/All-Strata-Everything.png)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:05:12 pm
My wife had a can of the Double Strata Forever beer at OH yesterday, a single hop Strata beer. For me, it was significantly worse than the DDH Green Diamonds, which was Galaxy and Amarillo.

So I guess I'm not a Strata fan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2021, 02:08:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:05:12 pm
My wife had a can of the Double Strata Forever beer at OH yesterday, a single hop Strata beer. For me, it was significantly worse than the DDH Green Diamonds, which was Galaxy and Amarillo.

So I guess I'm not a Strata fan.

i didn't come across any single-hop Strata beers, it was always mixed with a little of something else.  so maybe it's a hop that needs a little backup to shine...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:15:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 19, 2021, 02:08:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:05:12 pm
My wife had a can of the Double Strata Forever beer at OH yesterday, a single hop Strata beer. For me, it was significantly worse than the DDH Green Diamonds, which was Galaxy and Amarillo.

So I guess I'm not a Strata fan.

i didn't come across any single-hop Strata beers, it was always mixed with a little of something else.  so maybe it's a hop that needs a little backup to shine...

YMMV. My wife picked it based on the fact that she got something like this when she googled "strata hop." Our server mentioned the word "piney." I prefer citrusy to piney.



Why does the new hop, Strata (aka, X-331) smell like pot? Virtually every brewer I’ve met who’s rubbed and sniffed it uses wordslike dank, stanky, skunky, musky or resinous to describe it, usually with a bemused grin.

https://worthy.beer/strata-terpilicious-terpiffic-and-terpendous/#
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:18:40 pm
I'm at a virtual conference this week that I was supposed to be attending in person in Mexico City (my first international travel for work beyond the US and Canada, now cancelled twice.) I just had a two month old Zombie Dust with my leftover burrito, and it was still pretty damn good.

I guess at least the beer selection is better at home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 19, 2021, 02:31:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:15:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 19, 2021, 02:08:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:05:12 pm
My wife had a can of the Double Strata Forever beer at OH yesterday, a single hop Strata beer. For me, it was significantly worse than the DDH Green Diamonds, which was Galaxy and Amarillo.

So I guess I'm not a Strata fan.

i didn't come across any single-hop Strata beers, it was always mixed with a little of something else.  so maybe it's a hop that needs a little backup to shine...

YMMV. My wife picked it based on the fact that she got something like this when she googled "strata hop." Our server mentioned the word "piney." I prefer citrusy to piney.



Why does the new hop, Strata (aka, X-331) smell like pot? Virtually every brewer I’ve met who’s rubbed and sniffed it uses wordslike dank, stanky, skunky, musky or resinous to describe it, usually with a bemused grin.

https://worthy.beer/strata-terpilicious-terpiffic-and-terpendous/#

Aren't they in the same botanical family?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:33:38 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on April 19, 2021, 02:31:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:15:19 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 19, 2021, 02:08:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:05:12 pm
My wife had a can of the Double Strata Forever beer at OH yesterday, a single hop Strata beer. For me, it was significantly worse than the DDH Green Diamonds, which was Galaxy and Amarillo.

So I guess I'm not a Strata fan.

i didn't come across any single-hop Strata beers, it was always mixed with a little of something else.  so maybe it's a hop that needs a little backup to shine...

YMMV. My wife picked it based on the fact that she got something like this when she googled "strata hop." Our server mentioned the word "piney." I prefer citrusy to piney.



Why does the new hop, Strata (aka, X-331) smell like pot? Virtually every brewer I’ve met who’s rubbed and sniffed it uses wordslike dank, stanky, skunky, musky or resinous to describe it, usually with a bemused grin.

https://worthy.beer/strata-terpilicious-terpiffic-and-terpendous/#

Aren't they in the same botanical family?

That's a question for Uncle Glenn, not me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 19, 2021, 02:55:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2021, 02:18:40 pm
I just had a two month old Zombie Dust with my leftover burrito, and it was still pretty damn good.

Good to know. Have yet to find this but am admittedly not looking very hard.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2021, 02:57:52 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on April 19, 2021, 02:31:51 pm
Aren't they in the same botanical family?
They are
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2021, 03:16:46 pm
Quote from: toasty fresh hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2021, 02:57:52 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on April 19, 2021, 02:31:51 pm
Aren't they in the same botanical family?
They are

  Cannabis:   Hops:
Kingdom:     PlantaePlantae
Clade:TracheophytesTracheophytes
Clade:AngiospermsAngiosperms
Clade:EudicotsEudicots
Clade:RosidsRosids
Order:RosalesRosales
Family:CannabaceaeCannabaceae
Genus:CannabisHumulus
Species:C. sativa, C. indica, etc.   Humulus lupulus

who's smartest now, unka Glenn?!?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 21, 2021, 04:10:16 pm
Create Your Own Self-Guided Tasting Tour of MoCo Breweries and Wineries With Tastemakers Trail Map

https://mocoshow.com/blog/create-your-own-self-guided-tasting-tour-of-moco-breweries-and-vineyards-with-tastemakers-trail-map
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 24, 2021, 03:43:40 pm
Gave up 75 degrees and sunny to visit Asheville. Weather sux here but totally worth it so far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 24, 2021, 03:45:53 pm
Should point out it’s 45 and raining.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 25, 2021, 08:34:12 pm
https://twitter.com/WIbeermaven/status/1386031270510178307?s=19
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 26, 2021, 09:09:09 am
Quote from: brennser on March 22, 2021, 09:35:55 am
As it happens I had what I think are my first 2 semi decent OHDC beers this weekend - Triple Dream Cut Imperial Oat Dream and Triple Crushed Gems

Spent an idyllic afternoon at Wheatland spring yesterday - perfect temps and a fantastic new IPA on tap - Test of Time - been a long time since I stuck to a single beer at a brewery but I did just that yesterday

Last year, I went to Elder Pine and Lone Oak in Maryland, same day, first time for each. And as much as I loved Elder Pine, I was unimpressed by Lone Oak (though the water was pretty.)

We pretty much had the same experience in VA yesterday. First stop was Wheatland Spring. Beer was awesome, staff was friendly and professional, grounds were inviting, sandwich tasty if a little overpriced, the music they played was on point. Just a perfect stop after a hike at Harpers Ferry.

 Then we went to Vanish Farmwoods and it was terrible. Mediocre beer (honesty we dumped half a pour of both beers), forgettable food, felt like I was at a bad beer theme park or state fair. There was a cover band, and while they started tolerable with a couple of Ramones covers (is it even possible to mess up a Ramones song?) it went downhill from there (my wife argues that while Blink 182 is respectable, Nickelback crosses the line...me, I just hate all 90's pop/rock/"alternative" music.) Also, the people there were just kind of gross and trashy. And trash on the bathroom floors.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 26, 2021, 12:16:09 pm
Anyone been to Heliotrope?

Way TF out in Lexington, Va but we were driving by.  Had a couple of hazies and they were pretty good. Food wasn’t bad, either.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 26, 2021, 04:11:48 pm
Copied from Beer Advocate forums:

Anyone interested, Hudson Valley is offering Free Shipping to VA on orders placed by Noon on 4/28/21 to celebrate their collaboration with Veil (Curtains VII, VIII and IX)
https://hudsonvalleybrewery.com/beer-available-for-delivery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 26, 2021, 04:16:39 pm
Beers of the weekend...

Cracked by Other Half
Space Cut by Other Half
Lazersnake by 3 Floyds
Quality Pils 
Jjjulius*
King Julius*
Double Shot*
Triple Shot*

*#blessbrennser

All beers were home runs other than Triple Shot and Lazer Snake
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 26, 2021, 04:22:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 26, 2021, 04:16:39 pm
Beers of the weekend...

Cracked by Other Half
Space Cut by Other Half
Lazersnake by 3 Floyds
Quality Pils 
Jjjulius*
King Julius*
Double Shot*
Triple Shot*

*#blessbrennser

All beers were home runs other than Triple Shot and Lazer Snake

How are you doing with your weight loss, lol?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 26, 2021, 04:25:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 26, 2021, 04:22:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 26, 2021, 04:16:39 pm
Beers of the weekend...

Cracked by Other Half
Space Cut by Other Half
Lazersnake by 3 Floyds
Quality Pils 
Jjjulius*
King Julius*
Double Shot*
Triple Shot*

*#blessbrennser

All beers were home runs other than Triple Shot and Lazer Snake

How are you doing with your weight loss, lol?

Great... how's your giant gut?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 26, 2021, 04:34:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 26, 2021, 04:25:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 26, 2021, 04:22:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 26, 2021, 04:16:39 pm
Beers of the weekend...

Cracked by Other Half
Space Cut by Other Half
Lazersnake by 3 Floyds
Quality Pils 
Jjjulius*
King Julius*
Double Shot*
Triple Shot*

*#blessbrennser

All beers were home runs other than Triple Shot and Lazer Snake

How are you doing with your weight loss, lol?

Great... how's your giant gut?

Ever present. I've had a gut when i weighed 165 and was running 40 miles a week, and I've had a gut when i weighed 195. And I've had a gut even when i didn't drink beer and weighed somewhere in between. It doesn't go away.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 26, 2021, 04:38:11 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 26, 2021, 04:34:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 26, 2021, 04:25:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 26, 2021, 04:22:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 26, 2021, 04:16:39 pm
Beers of the weekend...

Cracked by Other Half
Space Cut by Other Half
Lazersnake by 3 Floyds
Quality Pils 
Jjjulius*
King Julius*
Double Shot*
Triple Shot*

*#blessbrennser

All beers were home runs other than Triple Shot and Lazer Snake

How are you doing with your weight loss, lol?

Great... how's your giant gut?

Ever present. I've had a gut when i weighed 165 and was running 40 miles a week, and I've had a gut when i weighed 195. And I've had a gut even when i didn't drink beer and weighed somewhere in between. It doesn't go away.

I feel ya
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2021, 05:12:12 pm
(https://www.slimmingsolutions.com/media/silo/spanx-for-men-banner.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2021, 05:56:47 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzxLFrpWYAQrZAc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on April 27, 2021, 02:04:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 26, 2021, 09:09:09 am
Quote from: brennser on March 22, 2021, 09:35:55 am
As it happens I had what I think are my first 2 semi decent OHDC beers this weekend - Triple Dream Cut Imperial Oat Dream and Triple Crushed Gems

Spent an idyllic afternoon at Wheatland spring yesterday - perfect temps and a fantastic new IPA on tap - Test of Time - been a long time since I stuck to a single beer at a brewery but I did just that yesterday

Last year, I went to Elder Pine and Lone Oak in Maryland, same day, first time for each. And as much as I loved Elder Pine, I was unimpressed by Lone Oak (though the water was pretty.)

We pretty much had the same experience in VA yesterday. First stop was Wheatland Spring. Beer was awesome, staff was friendly and professional, grounds were inviting, sandwich tasty if a little overpriced, the music they played was on point. Just a perfect stop after a hike at Harpers Ferry.

 Then we went to Vanish Farmwoods and it was terrible. Mediocre beer (honesty we dumped half a pour of both beers), forgettable food, felt like I was at a bad beer theme park or state fair. There was a cover band, and while they started tolerable with a couple of Ramones covers (is it even possible to mess up a Ramones song?) it went downhill from there (my wife argues that while Blink 182 is respectable, Nickelback crosses the line...me, I just hate all 90's pop/rock/"alternative" music.) Also, the people there were just kind of gross and trashy. And trash on the bathroom floors.

Glad that you liked Wheatland - its great

I went to Vanish about 18 months ago and it was one of the worst 60 minute period of my life - a seething mass of mediocre people drinking mediocre beer, screaming kids everywhere - would never ever go back
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on April 27, 2021, 02:17:42 pm
It is a known fact that people who bring kids to breweries, are mediocre.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 29, 2021, 11:12:44 am
#triggerWarning

https://shop.3fonteinen.be/products/the-golden-blend-cellar-selection
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 29, 2021, 12:52:31 pm
^ nice.  i have a bottle of golden blend packed away somewhere... maybe time to break it out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 30, 2021, 01:00:11 pm
This new beer tastes like climate change, and it’s not good (https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/04/30/beer-climate-change-torched-earth/?fbclid=IwAR1yojzF5A_sEe9El2xjesjDS-G5Uob64DrtobFV2Jt_b8vGw9OiTC0FpEQ)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 30, 2021, 02:03:57 pm
Quote from: shemptiness on April 30, 2021, 01:00:11 pm
This new beer tastes like climate change, and it’s not good (https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/04/30/beer-climate-change-torched-earth/?fbclid=IwAR1yojzF5A_sEe9El2xjesjDS-G5Uob64DrtobFV2Jt_b8vGw9OiTC0FpEQ)

"We made it mediocre on purpose."

Is that the excuse they give for all of their lame beers? (La Folie and Le Teroir excepted)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 03, 2021, 12:28:19 pm
Sounds like they might be trying to get the Walkie target audience (although this came out of the Hop Culture’s women in craft beer festival: Beers With(out) Beards...so maybe not)

(https://cdn.hopculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/QB_Web_Banner_1080x1080.jpg)

https://www.hopculture.com/queer-beer-fest-hop-culture-samuel-adams/
some cool cans, can't comment on the taste
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on May 03, 2021, 11:47:21 pm
I wonder if queer beer, sucks.   I wonder if queer beer, fills you up.  I wonder, if queer beer, is deep and dark.  I wonder if queer beer goes down, great.  I wonder if queer beer, is thick and heady.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2021, 02:41:01 am
Miller High Life pushes to establish ‘Champagne of Beers Region’ (https://www.molsoncoorsblog.com/miller-high-life-pushes-establish-champagne-beers-region)

the part that's especially relevant for smackie: "It’s even seeking to appoint its first-ever Champagne of Beers Region ambassador, a title that has perks including $20,000 in cash, beer for a year and an all-expenses paid trip to Milwaukee. To enter, fans can go to www.TheChampagneOfBeersRegion.com (https://www.thechampagneofbeersregion.com) and explain why they deserve to be named ambassador."  unfortunately, you'll have to travel to milwaukee. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2021, 11:23:28 am
Bummed you couldn't take your pooch to the bar with you while you drink...we've got a solution for you
https://barksocial.com/


heck, you don't even have to clean up after your dog
Bark Rangers clean up after your dog and ensure safe play

although the membership is kinda steep ($40 for monthly, less if you sign up for a year...there is a day pass too $10 for weekday, $15 for weekend)
Humans are ALWAYS FREE.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 10, 2021, 11:35:08 am
Quote from: Who’s saying that?-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2021, 11:23:28 am
Bummed you couldn't take your pooch to the bar with you while you drink...we've got a solution for you
https://barksocial.com/


heck, you don't even have to clean up after your dog
Bark Rangers clean up after your dog and ensure safe play

although the membership is kinda steep ($40 for monthly, less if you sign up for a year...there is a day pass too $10 for weekday, $15 for weekend)
Humans are ALWAYS FREE.

Do they need to add dog sounds to imissmybar.com?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 10, 2021, 11:36:13 am
Quote from: Who’s saying that?-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2021, 11:23:28 am
Bummed you couldn't take your pooch to the bar with you while you drink...we've got a solution for you
https://barksocial.com/


heck, you don't even have to clean up after your dog
Bark Rangers clean up after your dog and ensure safe play

although the membership is kinda steep ($40 for monthly, less if you sign up for a year...there is a day pass too $10 for weekday, $15 for weekend)
Humans are ALWAYS FREE.

Sounds about white.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 10, 2021, 11:38:15 am
Quote from: sweetcell on May 06, 2021, 02:41:01 am
Miller High Life pushes to establish ‘Champagne of Beers Region’ (https://www.molsoncoorsblog.com/miller-high-life-pushes-establish-champagne-beers-region)

the part that's especially relevant for smackie: "It’s even seeking to appoint its first-ever Champagne of Beers Region ambassador, a title that has perks including $20,000 in cash, beer for a year and an all-expenses paid trip to Milwaukee. To enter, fans can go to www.TheChampagneOfBeersRegion.com (https://www.thechampagneofbeersregion.com) and explain why they deserve to be named ambassador."  unfortunately, you'll have to travel to milwaukee. 

I don't have to apply.  I merely have to agree to relinquish my throne.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 17, 2021, 07:36:56 pm
Not that anyone here would ever want to have a beer before a concert...but if so.



https://dc.eater.com/2021/5/17/22436721/aslin-beer-company-inaugural-dc-location-logan-circle-coming-attractions?fbclid=IwAR31QnoiAk1GB3d9KRYyL9NP46pjN-np8BlMWCQMYMLO7qZ0xeqOPqcP72o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 18, 2021, 06:20:02 am
looks awesome to me^
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2021, 07:44:17 am
Quote from: Bamboo-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 18, 2021, 06:20:02 am
looks awesome to me^

Wouldn't we just stand around and complain about how their stouts are for gluttons and their IPA's aren't what they used to be and their sours aren't shipped from from a third party store in Belgium and their lagers aren't made by a Latino guy in upstate New York?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on May 18, 2021, 07:49:09 am
^downer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 18, 2021, 08:33:27 am
Quote from: Starsky on May 18, 2021, 07:49:09 am
^downer

Classic space with a classic comment
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2021, 09:11:02 am
Quote from: Starsky on May 18, 2021, 07:49:09 am
^downer

I see my sarcasm is not appreciated.

For the record, the first two complaints are things that have been said by multiple people on the internet. Two last two are me being beer nerd funny. I agree to a degree, but i think the Aslin place will be a welcome addition to the 14th Street scene and will definitely give it a try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on May 18, 2021, 09:47:32 am
News flash for Space:

Multiple people on the internet have said just about everything

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 18, 2021, 09:53:37 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2021, 07:44:17 am
Quote from: Bamboo-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 18, 2021, 06:20:02 am
looks awesome to me^

Wouldn't we just stand around and complain about how their stouts are for gluttons and their IPA's aren't what they used to be and their sours aren't shipped from from a third party store in Belgium and their lagers aren't made by a Latino guy in upstate New York?

Yes, but we would BE THERE.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2021, 12:07:14 pm
Quote from: Starsky on May 18, 2021, 07:49:09 am
^downer

You think I'm a downer, this was my wife's reply when i told her about the My Morning Jacket show:

this is background music
I never understand just standing there listening to someone jam out
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2021, 12:13:54 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 18, 2021, 09:11:02 am
I see my sarcasm is not appreciated.

i appreciated it.  methinks they're a tad butthurt for being called out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on May 18, 2021, 12:18:13 pm
“Butthurt “ is another great term

Wonder where it comes from

In Argentina people use the your ass hurts and all it’s plethora of variations to denote someone fucked you up the ass hard



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 19, 2021, 08:08:13 am
Woah, how does one start a brand new thread inside another thread?

Perverted dating certainly has it's merits (I think we lost Relaxer because of it), but a this point I'd rather just stick to talking about beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 19, 2021, 12:06:04 pm
#triggerWarning

(https://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/29024/290248442fb11786377de7a49d3184db11a3e8a3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 19, 2021, 12:36:41 pm
hmm, have to be triggerd on my phone as my security settings don't like https://img4.uploadhouse.com on my work comp

Your connection isn't private
Attackers might be trying to steal your information from img4.uploadhouse.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2021, 04:58:52 pm
think I've found my favorite Schwarzbier
(https://untappd.akamaized.net/site/beer_logos_hd/beer-3948230_5e980_hd.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 21, 2021, 10:28:51 pm
NRG getting pulled into the meetoo beer movement
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2021, 07:45:31 pm
(https://www.totalwine.com/dynamic/x1000,12pk/media/sys_master/twmmedia/hda/h26/13800111407134.png)

Annnnnd........#closethread
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 24, 2021, 11:55:11 am
but is the yeast organic??  if not, that product is an imposter #demandjusticenow


also, light beers are always made with either corn, rice, sugar, or a derivative thereof - will that be organic too?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 24, 2021, 12:04:10 pm
#triggerWarningWarning

Lots of beer pics coming this week.


(https://i.ibb.co/s2jdNyb/20210523-101457.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 24, 2021, 02:46:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 24, 2021, 11:55:11 am
but is the yeast organic??  if not, that product is an imposter #demandjusticenow

also, light beers are always made with either corn, rice, sugar, or a derivative thereof - will that be organic too?

Don't hate.  Embrace.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 28, 2021, 07:51:08 am
Good/long article here about Wheatland Spring.


https://brewingindustryguide-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/brewingindustryguide.com/amp/hope-grows-at-wheatland-spring-farm-brewery/

Although lovers of crazy ass marshmallow lactose guava sours and peppermint coffee vanilla imperial pastry stouts might take issue with the accused lack of creativity/originality in the American craft scene. Just where in Europe is all this creative craft brewing? Germany? Belgium?


Compared to Europe, the American beer scene seems homogenized to the Brandings—and that’s partly a function of commodified ingredients. “Amazing things [are] happening in craft brewing right now,” John says. “But what we would love to see is originality come to the United States—where the mid-Atlantic is known for certain types of beer—because that’s the kind of grain that grows there, and these are the kinds of hops that are grown in the mid-Atlantic, just like California has amazing crops, the Pac-Northwest has amazing crops. We’ll have, I don’t know, eight different regions in the United States, and they’re all known uniquely for different types and styles of beer—because that’s what grows there, and that’s what’s natural to their environment.”
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on June 14, 2021, 06:58:25 pm
AstroLab Escape Pod
Amarillo, Zappa and Mosaic
Yum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 16, 2021, 11:52:05 am
If anybody is a fan of fruited sours, I recommend picking up something from the Mortalis drop that just happened at Dominion Beer and Wine. $27 for a four pack is steep, but for fruited sours, they don't come any better than Mortalis, imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on June 16, 2021, 11:59:05 am
Tecate 16 oz 4 pack $5.99 at Walgreens
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 16, 2021, 12:11:24 pm
Quote from: Starsky on June 16, 2021, 11:59:05 am
Tecate 16 oz 4 pack $5.99 at Walgreens

the only problem with this is, after following through, you're stuck with some Tecate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 16, 2021, 01:08:07 pm
Quote from: Starsky on June 16, 2021, 11:59:05 am
Tecate 16 oz 4 pack $5.99 at Walgreens

Would
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 16, 2021, 01:15:44 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 16, 2021, 11:52:05 am
If anybody is a fan of fruited sours, I recommend picking up something from the Mortalis drop that just happened at Dominion Beer and Wine. $27 for a four pack is steep, but for fruited sours, they don't come any better than Mortalis, imo.

I'm surprised your refined palate still enjoys those types of beers. I can barely get through a taster of really any of them. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 16, 2021, 01:29:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 16, 2021, 01:15:44 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 16, 2021, 11:52:05 am
If anybody is a fan of fruited sours, I recommend picking up something from the Mortalis drop that just happened at Dominion Beer and Wine. $27 for a four pack is steep, but for fruited sours, they don't come any better than Mortalis, imo.

I'm surprised your refined palate still enjoys those types of beers. I can barely get through a taster of really any of them.

It's beer as a dessert, that's for sure. Which is fun, sometimes. I'll take a fruited sour over an adjunct stout, any day. Especially in the Summer.

In other news, Other Half DC is having a tap takeover by Monkish (Brennser will not be impressed), Horus, Homage, Celllarmaker, and Dewey Beach Thurs-Sun.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 16, 2021, 01:34:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 16, 2021, 01:29:22 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 16, 2021, 01:15:44 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 16, 2021, 11:52:05 am
If anybody is a fan of fruited sours, I recommend picking up something from the Mortalis drop that just happened at Dominion Beer and Wine. $27 for a four pack is steep, but for fruited sours, they don't come any better than Mortalis, imo.

I'm surprised your refined palate still enjoys those types of beers. I can barely get through a taster of really any of them.

It's beer as a dessert, that's for sure. Which is fun, sometimes. I'll take a fruited sour over an adjunct stout, any day. Especially in the Summer.

In other news, Other Half DC is having a tap takeover by Monkish (Brennser will not be impressed), Horus, Homage, Celllarmaker, and Dewey Beach Thurs-Sun.

I saw that... still haven't been to that location and need to get there, but won't be able to make that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on June 16, 2021, 02:06:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 16, 2021, 01:08:07 pm
Quote from: Starsky on June 16, 2021, 11:59:05 am
Tecate 16 oz 4 pack $5.99 at Walgreens

Would

Nope
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 16, 2021, 03:15:31 pm
Quote from: Starsky on June 16, 2021, 11:59:05 am
Tecate 16 oz 4 pack $5.99 at Walgreens

If I’m at the beach.....sure. Otherwise, no.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on June 16, 2021, 03:18:20 pm
I am always on the beach…
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 16, 2021, 03:25:25 pm
I wasn't aware of any public beaches that allow alcohol consumption.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 16, 2021, 03:25:49 pm
the beach is in his mind
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on June 16, 2021, 03:40:04 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KBVde75e4sU
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 16, 2021, 05:32:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 16, 2021, 03:25:25 pm
I wasn't aware of any public beaches that allow alcohol consumption.

Perhaps, but when has that stopped anybody?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 16, 2021, 05:33:30 pm
Quote from: Pure Insanity Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 16, 2021, 03:25:49 pm
the beach is in his mind

24/7
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 17, 2021, 12:13:34 pm
Otherhalf tap takeover and free bluegrass
Union Stage
Friday 6/18
https://www.unionstage.com/shows/other-half-brewing-presents-free-bluegrass-tap-takeover-feat-hollertown-split-string-soup/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on June 18, 2021, 01:26:20 pm
Pariah Brewing Company (San Diego)
Opening in Baltimore (Hampden)
Sometime this year (2021)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 18, 2021, 01:42:15 pm
That Pariah thing is kind of random.

Sitting at Wheatland Spring enjoying a couple of farmhouse ales and a Smiths tune right now. cheers!

Speaking of expansion, Other Half to open fifth  and sixth locations in Buffalo and Philly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 18, 2021, 04:08:17 pm
Wheatland is a beautiful spot. Was raining when we went but the barn loft was really nice. Gotta get back there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 25, 2021, 11:15:49 am
New brewpub in dc reopening today http://www.thepublicoptiondc.com/
not far from EchoStage/Other half DC...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 25, 2021, 11:49:52 am
Snallygaster tickets went on sale this morning. The FAQ says they are capping ticket sales at 50% capacity for COVID reasons. I guess that's good for making it less crowded (as long as it's the same amount of space), thought it probably means less beer choices (?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on June 25, 2021, 12:07:53 pm
  https://www.englewoodhershey.com/brews          (https://www.englewoodhershey.com/brews)

Anyone been to this brewery/venue in Hershey PA?

Considering seeing Durand Jones/Indications there instead of 930.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 28, 2021, 05:54:22 pm
Never heard of them. Is their emphasis on the beers or the venue?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on June 29, 2021, 01:23:38 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 28, 2021, 05:54:22 pm
Never heard of them. Is their emphasis on the beers or the venue?

unsure, asking this group.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2021, 01:32:23 pm
Quote from: challenged on June 29, 2021, 01:23:38 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 28, 2021, 05:54:22 pm
Never heard of them. Is their emphasis on the beers or the venue?

unsure, asking this group.

Never heard of em'.... and based on some $pace Untappd stats, it doesn't look like they make much good beer. Doesn't mean you shouldn't go though!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 01:34:16 pm
Quote from: challenged on June 29, 2021, 01:23:38 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 28, 2021, 05:54:22 pm
Never heard of them. Is their emphasis on the beers or the venue?

unsure, asking this group.

Their overall average beer score on Untappd is 3.67 (out of 5). By comparison, DC Brau has a 3.67, Union Craft in Baltimore has a 3.77, Troeggs (also in Hershey) has a 3.79, Dogfish Head has a 3.84, and Other Half (multiple locations including DC) has a 4.23.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2021, 01:42:34 pm
I see that Jack Johnson wannabe motherfucker Hiss Golden Messenger is playing at the same location. You should take the wife up Space, can probably get there quicker than going down I95 for a show.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 01:48:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2021, 01:42:34 pm
I see that Jack Johnson wannabe motherfucker Hiss Golden Messenger is playing at the same location. You should take the wife up Space, can probably get there quicker than going down I95 for a show.

I was actually eyeing the Old 97's show there yesterday, without realizing it was the same place Challenged was asking about. The beer average is similar (Strangeways is 3.7), but Hershey is 2:23 from me with no traffic, which is still quite a bit more than a drive to Fredericksburg.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 29, 2021, 02:55:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 01:34:16 pm
Their overall average beer score on Untappd is 3.67 (out of 5). By comparison, DC Brau has a 3.67, Union Craft in Baltimore has a 3.77, Troeggs (also in Hershey) has a 3.79, Dogfish Head has a 3.84, and Other Half (multiple locations including DC) has a 4.23.

Is there a Mendoza line for brewery scores? DC Brau and Union may not be top shelf but both have very good beers in their line up. Just gotta avoid the ones that suck.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on June 29, 2021, 03:04:53 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 01:34:16 pm
Quote from: challenged on June 29, 2021, 01:23:38 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 28, 2021, 05:54:22 pm
Never heard of them. Is their emphasis on the beers or the venue?

unsure, asking this group.

Their overall average beer score on Untappd is 3.67 (out of 5). By comparison, DC Brau has a 3.67, Union Craft in Baltimore has a 3.77, Troeggs (also in Hershey) has a 3.79, Dogfish Head has a 3.84, and Other Half (multiple locations including DC) has a 4.23.

Solid info; thanks. I think we will go to this show and try the beer, and report back. Wait around 65 days and I will let you know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 03:52:36 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 29, 2021, 02:55:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 01:34:16 pm
Their overall average beer score on Untappd is 3.67 (out of 5). By comparison, DC Brau has a 3.67, Union Craft in Baltimore has a 3.77, Troeggs (also in Hershey) has a 3.79, Dogfish Head has a 3.84, and Other Half (multiple locations including DC) has a 4.23.

Is there a Mendoza line for brewery scores? DC Brau and Union may not be top shelf but both have very good beers in their line up. Just gotta avoid the ones that suck.

They both produce a fair share of unpopular beer styles, which tend to get lower ratings. Breweries that stick mostly to hazies, pastries, and fruities are going to naturally get higher ratings.

That said, the mediocre score for Strangeways is right on the money.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2021, 03:56:40 pm
my new fav.  had been trying to find a British Mild Ale and found this at mylhbs and was very happy and would buy again
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0380/2156/2508/products/29d179356e646adbec0f558039a2a7e8353f3868_520x.jpg?v=1610483107)

Judging a brewery on their avg Untapped score is like judging a band on how many shows they did on a tour...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2021, 04:04:04 pm
Quote from: Side-estoppel ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2021, 03:56:40 pm


Judging a brewery on their avg Untapped score is like judging a band on how many shows they did on a tour...

Wut
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 29, 2021, 04:24:40 pm
Edited to say I agree with Space, particularly about Strangeways.

A brewery’s bottom line score isn’t a good indicator by itself. A brewery can belt out really solid stuff but also suck at others. Just stick to the good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 29, 2021, 04:29:19 pm
Wheatfield is prominently displayed in this month’s issue of Imbibe magazine. Good for them!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 04:45:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 29, 2021, 04:04:04 pm
Quote from: Side-estoppel ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2021, 03:56:40 pm


Judging a brewery on their avg Untapped score is like judging a band on how many shows they did on a tour...

Wut

That might have a kernel of truth if they adjusted the scores up based on quantity of reviews, but I don't think that's the case with Untappd.

If you're comparing beer ratings with music numbers, perhaps overall Untappd scores are analagous to overall Metacritic scores for an artist.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 04:47:57 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 29, 2021, 04:29:19 pm
Wheatfield is prominently displayed in this month’s issue of Imbibe magazine. Good for them!

Do you mean Wheatland Spring?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 29, 2021, 05:12:18 pm
Oops. That is indeed what I meant. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on June 29, 2021, 10:19:41 pm
The beer selection at TGIF, is god awful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 10:27:27 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on June 29, 2021, 10:19:41 pm
The beer selection at TGIF, is god awful.

In those situations, wine is the answer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2021, 07:27:21 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 10:27:27 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on June 29, 2021, 10:19:41 pm
The beer selection at TGIF, is god awful.

In those situations, wine is the answer.

In those situations,  you die of hunger and never step foot into a TGIF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2021, 07:46:58 am
isn't it just called Friday's now...they are no longer thanking god
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 30, 2021, 08:15:12 am
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2021, 07:27:21 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 10:27:27 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on June 29, 2021, 10:19:41 pm
The beer selection at TGIF, is god awful.

In those situations, wine is the answer.

In those situations,  you die of hunger and never step foot into a TGIF.

Well, yeah, this. i was assuming it was a restaurant with quality food and shitty beer choices.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on June 30, 2021, 01:33:04 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2021, 07:27:21 am
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2021, 10:27:27 pm
Quote from: WalkOnBack on June 29, 2021, 10:19:41 pm
The beer selection at TGIF, is god awful.

In those situations, wine is the answer.

In those situations,  you die of hunger and never step foot into a TGIF.

Never, again.  I have 1 appetizer . . . and my stomach killed me the rest of the day.  Lagunitas IPA was the best they had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2021, 03:07:21 pm
Looks like I may finally get to go to the Other Half DC spot but a quick look at the menu shows the following on draft...

One Hard Seltzer - wtf?
One Pils
One Sour
Seventeen IPAs!!!

Kinda bummed to be honest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 30, 2021, 03:10:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2021, 03:07:21 pm
Looks like I may finally get to go to the Other Half DC spot but a quick look at the menu shows the following on draft...

One Hard Seltzer - wtf?
One Pils
One Sour
Seventeen IPAs!!!

Kinda bummed to be honest.

OH is definitely a one-trick pony. If you want variety, go to Wheatland Spring, Elder Pine, or road trip it down to Triple Crossing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2021, 03:20:59 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2021, 03:10:14 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2021, 03:07:21 pm
Looks like I may finally get to go to the Other Half DC spot but a quick look at the menu shows the following on draft...

One Hard Seltzer - wtf?
One Pils
One Sour
Seventeen IPAs!!!

Kinda bummed to be honest.

OH is definitely a one-trick pony. If you want variety, go to Wheatland Spring, Elder Pine, or road trip it down to Triple Crossing.

Would love to get to Wheatland, but just too damn far...

Elder Pine is on the list, but we typically hit Waredaca or Lone Oak in that area.

Can't see me ever getting to Triple Crossing. I take it back, I was there like four years ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2021, 04:52:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2021, 03:07:21 pm
One Hard Seltzer - wtf?
Seventeen IPAs!!!
everyone is carrying Seltzers now, they want to make something wife will drink I guess??
yeah, was a bit obnoxious to have 15 plus IPA is what I thought too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 30, 2021, 10:10:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2021, 03:20:59 pm
Elder Pine is on the list, but we typically hit Waredaca or Lone Oak in that area.

Why anyone hits up Lone Oak is beyond me. Yet, plenty of people do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2021, 10:39:09 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on June 30, 2021, 10:10:46 pm
Quote from: Yada on June 30, 2021, 03:20:59 pm
Elder Pine is on the list, but we typically hit Waredaca or Lone Oak in that area.

Why anyone hits up Lone Oak is beyond me. Yet, plenty of people do.

#children and big fields
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 02, 2021, 09:56:05 am
Other Half DC did not disappoint... quite possibly the nicest brewery I've ever been to, at least for an urban/city setting. Wow.

Had six tasters of misc. IPAs and the seltzer as well as one full pour of the lager. Would and will return but it's also not too easy to get to based on my location.

I'm also happy to report that they're keeping a safe space for all genders.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vww3rLgwx9qxsUUv9
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2021, 10:16:03 am
I'll be updating my California road trip from a beer perspective here starting tomorrow.

Plenty of wine, beaches, dining, hiking, shopping (?), fireworks, driving, biking, kayaking, surfing (wife and daughter, not me), spliffing (wife only), and maybe even some time to chill time as well. But I'll just be reporting about the beer, here.

After picking up the rental car (fingers crossed they have what we reserved I'm so nervous about the rental car situation), first stop tomorrow is grabbing some bahn mi sandwiches to go and bringing them to Monkish for the West Coast answer to the Answer..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 02, 2021, 10:18:11 am
Quote from: Yada on July 02, 2021, 09:56:05 am
Other Half DC did not disappoint... quite possibly the nicest brewery I've ever been to, at least for an urban/city setting. Wow.

Had six tasters of misc. IPAs and the seltzer as well as one full pour of the lager. Would and will return but it's also not too easy to get to based on my location.

I'm also happy to report that they're keeping a safe space for all genders.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vww3rLgwx9qxsUUv9

It is a nice space. The new Domino Park location is nice too. Beats the DC location by a mile, but the actual DC space might be nicer. The Grimm taproom is quite pleasant too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 02, 2021, 10:33:27 am
Enjoy your trip space!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 02, 2021, 10:55:23 am
seems aslin has jumped the (baby) shark with this one
(https://mcusercontent.com/7faaf804a40e20ecfceb48bd4/images/cb0e989e-467d-8ea0-5dc9-4abc0d69f1fc.png)

although getting a tall boy everytime you get a hair cut isn't that bad
how do you keep the hair out?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 02, 2021, 11:34:06 am
Quote from: St. Hubbins-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 02, 2021, 10:55:23 am
seems aslin has jumped the (baby) shark with this one
(https://mcusercontent.com/7faaf804a40e20ecfceb48bd4/images/cb0e989e-467d-8ea0-5dc9-4abc0d69f1fc.png)

although getting a tall boy everytime you get a hair cut isn't that bad
how do you keep the hair out?

based on years of evidence, you will not have an issue with getting hair in your beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 04, 2021, 11:27:04 am
We went to Monkish yesterday. Top notch but nothing on draft or in cans that blew me away. The Monkish beers I had at OHDC were better than the Monkish beers I had at Monkish Torrance. Might be back at end of trip if draft menu improves. Today we're riding bikes to Firestone Walker Venice for lunch. Forecast is 71 and sunny. Happy Independence Day!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 05, 2021, 08:23:35 am
Shame about Monkish. Don’t believe I’ve visited a brewery with strong credentials that disappointed like that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 05, 2021, 12:53:40 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on July 05, 2021, 08:23:35 am
Shame about Monkish. Don’t believe I’ve visited a brewery with strong credentials that disappointed like that.

Maybe I undersold it. It was good. Other Half level,  almost. Just not mind blowing. I think Brennser said more or less the same thing.

Firestone Walker was closed for the holiday.. Trying again today. Maybe Highland Park too, depending.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on July 05, 2021, 02:59:27 pm
You undersold that the brewery disappointed StonetheCrow?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 06, 2021, 07:24:47 am
My fault. I oversold it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 06, 2021, 12:10:07 pm
cool (for data nerds, at least):

Infographic: Tracking the Top Hops (https://beerandbrewing.com/infographic-tracking-the-top-hops/)
As growers look to meet demand from brewers, here‘s a look at how the most-grown hops in the Pacific Northwest have changed in recent years.
(https://images.ctfassets.net/sz2xpiwl6od9/3FxU4xFoPSkXp1xXXI8KCW/b6edc3e791d2020c7f2ff1f0b439d6d8/Infographic-Bales-on-Bales.jpg?w=1600&fm=webp)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 06, 2021, 12:35:23 pm
After our walk up the hill to Griffith Observatory yesterday, we hit Highland Park Brewery for a light lunch yesterday. Enjoyed a nice array of funk and a small pils with a salad. Good atmosphere, or vibe as the kids say.

Later hit Firestone Walker Venice. Can't complain about a Parabola with my first ev r Impossible Burger. Tasty!

We're off to the beer wasteland of Yosemite after a stop at the Getty this morning.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 07, 2021, 09:27:48 am
Haven’t had a Firestone beer in forever. Good stuff, mostly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 07, 2021, 09:39:58 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on July 07, 2021, 09:27:48 am
Haven’t had a Firestone beer in forever. Good stuff, mostly.
I love Union Jack IPA and glad it's easy find
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 07, 2021, 09:48:55 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on July 07, 2021, 09:27:48 am
Haven’t had a Firestone beer in forever. Good stuff, mostly.

Pivo Pils for the win!

I have dozens of their old bottles of abacus, saucuba,  parabola, etc. etc. that I'd let go for a nice price!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on July 07, 2021, 09:50:48 am
Paging Space….
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 07, 2021, 09:51:39 am
Quote from: Starsky on July 07, 2021, 09:50:48 am
Paging Space….
it is before 7AM west coast time...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 07, 2021, 10:10:56 am
Quote from: SlowReactionForce-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 07, 2021, 09:51:39 am
Quote from: Starsky on July 07, 2021, 09:50:48 am
Paging Space….
it is before 7AM west coast time...

We're due for a vacation update.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 07, 2021, 11:07:39 am
Quote from: SlowReactionForce-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 07, 2021, 09:39:58 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on July 07, 2021, 09:27:48 am
Haven’t had a Firestone beer in forever. Good stuff, mostly.
I love Union Jack IPA and glad it's easy find

Exactly. Double Jack as well.

Do they still make Stickee Monkey?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 07, 2021, 11:50:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 07, 2021, 10:10:56 am
Quote from: SlowReactionForce-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 07, 2021, 09:51:39 am
Quote from: Starsky on July 07, 2021, 09:50:48 am
Paging Space….
it is before 7AM west coast time...

We're due for a vacation update.

Hiked the Mist Trail to Vernal Falls and back down the John Muir Trail. About nine miles with about 2100+ feet elevation gain. Wife and daughter took a slightly easier route. Temp was 100+.

Drinking a Pliny with dinner tonight, no breweries until at least Saturday...hitting a winery or two around Paso Robles Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 10, 2021, 07:48:31 pm
Currently at Liquid Gravity in SLO, my 250th different brewery visited.  Beer is spot on. All girl punk band about to play. 83 degrees. It was 110 at the winery in Paso Robles 37 miles away. Cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 11, 2021, 07:43:19 am
250? Wow.  I'm nowhere near that number.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2021, 03:05:29 am
i'm nowhere near OCD enough to have kept track.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2021, 03:15:36 am
beer-related family intrigue: an aunt-in-law is currently visiting us here in WA.  she's a relatively recent divorcee.  an old high school friend of hers (male) who lives in OR heard that she was in town and asked to visit.  speculation is that he's interested in her, probably has been since high school (they're both 60-something).  in order to ingratiate himself with his hosts, AKA me, he asked what he could bring from OR.  never one to pass an an opportunity, i shot him a list of OR breweries who's stuff i was interested in... this is what he brought me:
- The Ale Apothecary: Darling
- de Garde Brewing: BuVeaux
- Alesong: Mocha Rhino Suit

as far as i know the dude didn't get anywhere with my aunt-in-law; but he was really nice, a good conversationalist, and an above-average beer mule.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 12, 2021, 11:33:15 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 12, 2021, 03:15:36 am
beer-related family intrigue: an aunt-in-law is currently visiting us here in WA.  she's a relatively recent divorcee.  an old high school friend of hers (male) who lives in OR heard that she was in town and asked to visit.  speculation is that he's interested in her, probably has been since high school (they're both 60-something).  in order to ingratiate himself with his hosts, AKA me, he asked what he could bring from OR.  never one to pass an an opportunity, i shot him a list of OR breweries who's stuff i was interested in... this is what he brought me:
- The Ale Apothecary: Darling
- de Garde Brewing: BuVeaux
- Alesong: Mocha Rhino Suit

as far as i know the dude didn't get anywhere with my aunt-in-law; but he was really nice, a good conversationalist, and an above-average beer mule.

My mom is a young 80 if he's willing to skew older.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 12, 2021, 11:42:21 am
California road trip continues. Two nights in Santa Barbara. She thoroughly enjoyed it. This town is a bougie wine town, so laying low on the breweries. We did try to go to the SB location of Modern Times for a pre-dinner beer last night, but they closed early (like at least a couple hours early) due to "low staff." Is the service industry hurting or what?

We're headed to Encinitas tomorrow, may make a slight detour and hit some Anaheim breweries en route (The Bruery, Bottle Logic, Green Cheek). Also trying to squeeze in mini golf, a short hike, anda lunch stop at a seafood shack along the way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2021, 01:10:47 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2021, 11:33:15 am
My mom is a young 80 if he's willing to skew older.

HANDS OFF MY BEER MULE
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2021, 02:14:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2021, 11:42:21 am
We did try to go to the SB location of Modern Times for a pre-dinner beer last night, but they closed early (like at least a couple hours early) due to "low staff." Is the service industry hurting or what?

TAN: dunno about out east, but around these parts the service industry is having a hell of a time getting staff.  lots of restaurants can't re-open due to a lack of employees.  people are pointing fingers at:
- high employment benefits that result in people making more by not working (actual problem: service industry not offering a living wage)

- potential hires now demanding wages higher than the restaurant's business model can support (solution: fix the model if it's based on exploitation)
- former service industry employees moved (and moving) to other industries (got pissed off/lost hope in restaurants, realized it's a shitty sector with a terrible work/life balance, so found something better elsewhere)
- it's the democrats fault

restaurants in seattle are offering signing bonuses for waiters and kitchen staff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 12, 2021, 02:19:33 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 12, 2021, 02:14:02 pm
- high employment benefits that result in people making more by not working (actual problem: service industry not offering a living wage)

- it's the democrats fault
I'm hearing this too (and you are correct)
thing is waiters/bar staff can make a pretty decent salary in the end, but tips are such a big part of that (thought once you get far from the city, it's a different story in small towns )
and with lower capacity in restaurants...makes it even harder
but when all else fails, its the democrat's fault
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 12:47:57 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 12, 2021, 02:14:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2021, 11:42:21 am
We did try to go to the SB location of Modern Times for a pre-dinner beer last night, but they closed early (like at least a couple hours early) due to "low staff." Is the service industry hurting or what?

TAN: dunno about out east, but around these parts the service industry is having a hell of a time getting staff.  lots of restaurants can't re-open due to a lack of employees.  people are pointing fingers at:
- high employment benefits that result in people making more by not working (actual problem: service industry not offering a living wage)

- potential hires now demanding wages higher than the restaurant's business model can support (solution: fix the model if it's based on exploitation)
- former service industry employees moved (and moving) to other industries (got pissed off/lost hope in restaurants, realized it's a shitty sector with a terrible work/life balance, so found something better elsewhere)
- it's the democrats fault

restaurants in seattle are offering signing bonuses for waiters and kitchen staff.
One of our Airbnb owners was a retired vineyard owner. He claimed that grape growers are "having a hard time finding workers because the workers come here from Central America and prefer to have the government pay them 30K not to work rather than to actually work." I didn't really feel like getting into a political debate with him.

Stopped at the Bruery tasting room yesterday. Was hoping for more but just another place in an industrial setting with good beers. We need more farm breweries!

Also stopped at Green Cheek in Costa Mesa. The ipa we had was awesome, same level as Monkish or Other Half. Also had a guest beer called Pliny the Elder on draft, that one was pretty good too.

Tried to stop at Bottle Logic, but they were closed for an unannounced Christmas in July party for employees. Wad that an excuse for not having enough staff?

Also played minigolf- I won, go-karts- wife won, and video arcade games- daughter won.

That's it for now, ciao.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 14, 2021, 01:36:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 12:47:57 pm
Also played minigolf- I won, go-karts- wife won, and video arcade games- daughter won.
that worked out well...everyone is a winner!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 14, 2021, 01:49:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 12:47:57 pm
One of our Airbnb owners was a retired vineyard owner. He claimed that grape growers are "having a hard time finding workers because the workers come here from Central America and prefer to have the government pay them 30K not to work rather than to actually work." I didn't really feel like getting into a political debate with him.

you mean you didn't want to tell him that they are in fact ineligible for government benefits, and the reason there aren't as many migrant central american and mexican workers is due to the border policies of the previous administration?

Quote from: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 12:47:57 pm
Stopped at the Bruery tasting room yesterday. Was hoping for more but just another place in an industrial setting with good beers. We need more farm breweries!

i'm surprised that The Bruery hasn't upped their tasting room game.  i understand how a new brewery, that barely has financing to open the place, needs to set up shop in some industrial park.  but the bruery has been successful for over a decade and has expanded... you think they'd want to invest in the customer experience.  then again if people are already coming, why offer gold if people are lining up for silver?

Quote from: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 12:47:57 pm
Also had a guest beer called Pliny the Elder on draft, that one was pretty good too.

wow, green cheek's beers must have SUCKED for you to choose some unknown guest beer instead of their offerings...

Quote from: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 12:47:57 pm
That's it for now, ciao.

appreciate the update!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 14, 2021, 01:50:40 pm
I can't quote your Breuery quote specifically, but Imma guess they're hurting.

No one buys that beer and with their expansion, I'm sure they've taken a hit financially to not focus on their homebase.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 14, 2021, 02:01:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 14, 2021, 01:50:40 pm
No one buys that beer

what makes you say that?

among beer-trading uber-nerds, agreed - the bruery has lost its luster.  but beer nerds make up 1% of the craft beer-buying market.  they have an outsized influence given their small numbers... but they are small numbers.  i think us beer nerds (i'm generous with myself here) tend to get lost in the smell of our own farts: we create a bubble but think it's the entire universe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 02:08:23 pm
As an Airbnb guest, I'll make as kitty small talk as possible, not really interested in educating a 75 yo retired farmer.

In fairness, the do have another newer tasting room called Bruery Terreux, but that was closed on Tuesday. No idea what it's like, but it does have that fancy pants name.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 14, 2021, 03:11:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 14, 2021, 02:01:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 14, 2021, 01:50:40 pm
No one buys that beer

what makes you say that?

among beer-trading uber-nerds, agreed - the bruery has lost its luster.  but beer nerds make up 1% of the craft beer-buying market.  they have an outsized influence given their small numbers... but they are small numbers.  i think us beer nerds (i'm generous with myself here) tend to get lost in the smell of our own farts: we create a bubble but think it's the entire universe.

In all of my years of beer drinking, unless someone was hauling around their 22% chocolate stouts, I can't recall ever seeing anyone just casually drinking a Bruery beer... beer geek or not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 14, 2021, 03:59:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 02:08:23 pm
In fairness, the do have another newer tasting room called Bruery Terreux, but that was closed on Tuesday. No idea what it's like, but it does have that fancy pants name.

ugh, too bad.  given a choice between the two, i would have preferred terreux for their sour/wild/farmhouse beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 04:08:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 14, 2021, 03:59:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 02:08:23 pm
In fairness, the do have another newer tasting room called Bruery Terreux, but that was closed on Tuesday. No idea what it's like, but it does have that fancy pants name.

ugh, too bad.  given a choice between the two, i would have preferred terreux for their sour/wild/farmhouse beers.

The Tasting room actually has many more beer choices, including everything Terreux has. We stick to stouts and sours and drank just fine.

According to a Beer Advocate post, Terreux is just the nicer place to do your drinking. I'd copy and paste what the person said, but I'm not that good with my Android phone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 14, 2021, 04:12:38 pm
Also looks like I missed out on a really good sour place called Homage because I didn't realize they had opened an LA location.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 14, 2021, 04:35:42 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 14, 2021, 03:11:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 14, 2021, 02:01:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 14, 2021, 01:50:40 pm
No one buys that beer

what makes you say that?

among beer-trading uber-nerds, agreed - the bruery has lost its luster.  but beer nerds make up 1% of the craft beer-buying market.  they have an outsized influence given their small numbers... but they are small numbers.  i think us beer nerds (i'm generous with myself here) tend to get lost in the smell of our own farts: we create a bubble but think it's the entire universe.

In all of my years of beer drinking, unless someone was hauling around their 22% chocolate stouts, I can't recall ever seeing anyone just casually drinking a Bruery beer... beer geek or not.
they've been on the shelves at places like Wholefoods and Total Wine for years, so the 'beer geeks' that shop at whole foods and not some super-secret trade group have been buying them there.  It's a 'special occasion' kind of purchase, but they do move and are always priced a little too high for me to spend $25 for 22 oz.  Definitely not the kind of stuff you bring to a backyard bbq

but the problem with craft beer, in general, is trying something new, so brand loyalty is almost looked down on
I know I almost always look for things I've not had yet and get bummed when I see perfectly good beers available
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 14, 2021, 04:40:40 pm
Quote from: Radical-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 14, 2021, 04:35:42 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 14, 2021, 03:11:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 14, 2021, 02:01:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 14, 2021, 01:50:40 pm
No one buys that beer

what makes you say that?

among beer-trading uber-nerds, agreed - the bruery has lost its luster.  but beer nerds make up 1% of the craft beer-buying market.  they have an outsized influence given their small numbers... but they are small numbers.  i think us beer nerds (i'm generous with myself here) tend to get lost in the smell of our own farts: we create a bubble but think it's the entire universe.

In all of my years of beer drinking, unless someone was hauling around their 22% chocolate stouts, I can't recall ever seeing anyone just casually drinking a Bruery beer... beer geek or not.
they've been on the shelves at places like Wholefoods and Total Wine for years, so the 'beer geeks' that shop at whole foods and not some super-secret trade group have been buying them there.  It's a 'special occasion' kind of purchase, but they do move and are always priced a little too high for me to spend $25 for 22 oz.  Definitely not the kind of stuff you bring to a backyard bbq

but the problem with craft beer, in general, is trying something new, so brand loyalty is almost looked down on
I know I almost always look for things I've not had yet and get bummed when I see perfectly good beers available

I agree in some ways, but even brands like say Lagunitas, Stone (do they still exist), Dogfish Head were main stays for bbqs, etc. No one is/was bringing any cans of Bruery Beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 14, 2021, 05:49:28 pm
Who Qualifies for Beer Geek Status? (https://newschoolbeer.com/home/2021/3/beer-geek-status)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 12:57:26 am
Had dinner here at Modern Times Encinitas last night. In addition to an IPA and a couple of taster pours of some barrel aged pastries, Iust confess we had a frozen seltzer slushee, and it was pretty damn good

Hitting San Diego Saturday before heading to LAX for a midnight flight home. May have to do encore visits to Green Cheek and Monkish for some souvenirs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 05:43:49 pm
Lunchtime drinking at Modern Times Encinitas and Culture Encinitas. Hey Hutch, hot people on the beach here. Not everyone gained 30 lbs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 16, 2021, 06:12:56 pm
I don't think they let fat people into San Deigo...but DE/OC/NJ, they encourage the fat people
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 06:30:13 pm
Quote from: Side-panda ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 16, 2021, 06:12:56 pm
I don't think they let fat people into San Deigo...but DE/OC/NJ, they encourage the fat people

But we're clocking in well north of 500, collectively. I guess they let us in because we can spell San Diego.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 16, 2021, 07:33:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 06:30:13 pm
...we're clocking in well north of 500

Jeebus
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 11:13:34 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on July 16, 2021, 07:33:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 06:30:13 pm
...we're clocking in well north of 500

Jeebus

The average male weighs 198 and the average female 171. We're under the collective average for one male and two females combined. Also both females are above average in height and I'm average height, so no need to Jeebus.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on July 17, 2021, 10:38:25 am
That’s one way of looking at it…
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 17, 2021, 11:02:19 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 11:13:34 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on July 16, 2021, 07:33:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 06:30:13 pm
...we're clocking in well north of 500

Jeebus

The average male weighs 198 and the average female 171. We're under the collective average for one male and two females combined. Also both females are above average in height and I'm average height, so no need to Jeebus.
Isnt your daughter a child? I was under the impression she is like ten. Comparing a ten year old to “an average female” is going to be super skewed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:03:03 am
I've met numerous boarders over the years, and none of us, self included, are pushing a 10.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 17, 2021, 11:10:23 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:03:03 am
I've met numerous boarders over the years, l
OH RUB IT IN. You’ll come to Richmond again and ask for brewery thoughts then refuse my kind hospitality to come out and say hey under the guise of Celeste “thinks it’s weird lol” and then say this months later.


I SEE HOW IT IS.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:20:29 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on July 17, 2021, 11:10:23 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:03:03 am
I've met numerous boarders over the years, l
OH RUB IT IN. You’ll come to Richmond again and ask for brewery thoughts then refuse my kind hospitality to come out and say hey under the guise of Celeste “thinks it’s weird lol” and then say this months later.


I SEE HOW IT IS.

You'll be at Arlo Parks, right? The three of us will be happy to meet the two of you. If your wife is a 10, that doesn't count because she's not posting here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on July 17, 2021, 11:26:18 am
A 10 in looks? I don’t even know what you guys are prattling on about


The average American is obese….barely maybe although after covid19 who knows …..but obese

On a related topic Arlington was just selected as fittest county for fourth year in a row!




Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:36:55 am
Quote from: Starsky on July 17, 2021, 11:26:18 am
A 10 in looks? I don’t even know what you guys are prattling on about


The average American is obese….barely maybe although after covid19 who knows …..but obese

On a related topic Arlington was just selected as fittest county for fourth year in a row!

How would you rate your fitness level compared to other 40somethong Arlingtonians?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 17, 2021, 11:41:27 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:20:29 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on July 17, 2021, 11:10:23 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:03:03 am
I've met numerous boarders over the years, l
OH RUB IT IN. You’ll come to Richmond again and ask for brewery thoughts then refuse my kind hospitality to come out and say hey under the guise of Celeste “thinks it’s weird lol” and then say this months later.


I SEE HOW IT IS.

You'll be at Arlo Parks, right? The three of us will be happy to meet the two of you. If your wife is a 10, that doesn't count because she's not posting here.
We will be at Arlo Parks and while I think my wife is a ten, I was talking about 10 years of age for your daughter, NOT — and I want to stress NOT — her appearance, which I have no clue about as I have no context.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:45:18 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on July 17, 2021, 11:02:19 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 11:13:34 pm
Quote from: excontradiction on July 16, 2021, 07:33:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 16, 2021, 06:30:13 pm
...we're clocking in well north of 500

Jeebus

The average male weighs 198 and the average female 171. We're under the collective average for one male and two females combined. Also both females are above average in height and I'm average height, so no need to Jeebus.
Isnt your daughter a child? I was under the impression she is like ten. Comparing a ten year old to “an average female” is going to be super skewed.

My daughter is 14, 5'7" and had the body of a full grown woman.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on July 17, 2021, 11:50:11 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:36:55 am
Quote from: Starsky on July 17, 2021, 11:26:18 am
A 10 in looks? I don’t even know what you guys are prattling on about


The average American is obese….barely maybe although after covid19 who knows …..but obese

On a related topic Arlington was just selected as fittest county for fourth year in a row!

How would you rate your fitness level compared to other 40somethong Arlingtonians?


My weight is good but my fitness level poor. I need to start walking more…. and soon

So I would say I am below the average in terms of fitness. Pandemic didn’t help. If I lived in a big city I would walk a lot and my fitness would be much better…When I lived in DC I used to walk dozens of blocks every day. I just get so bored by trails or parks and I just drive everywhere out here. Am heading to post office 8 blocks away and drive…
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 12:07:22 pm
Sorry to derail the thread. If you want to see lots of fit, beautiful people, come to coastal California. Or stay in Arlington.

Hitting a couple more SD breweries today, flying back at midnight then going back to half a beer a day!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on July 18, 2021, 08:33:47 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 17, 2021, 11:36:55 am
Quote from: Starsky on July 17, 2021, 11:26:18 am
A 10 in looks? I don’t even know what you guys are prattling on about


The average American is obese….barely maybe although after covid19 who knows …..but obese

On a related topic Arlington was just selected as fittest county for fourth year in a row!

How would you rate your fitness level compared to other 40somethong Arlingtonians?

I'm pretty fit even if I do say so myself  8)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 18, 2021, 09:03:28 pm
Finished our CA vacation. North Park in San Diego was another stellar brewery. Brought home some goodies from them, Monkish, and Modern Times.

Mask wearing in CA was pretty nonexistent, except where required.

It was required on the rental car shuttle. Everyone complied, except for the middle aged guy in the "Lehigh, Michigan" shirt and his pig nosed wife. Piggie wore her "Salvation" mask below her nose. She also wore a t-shirt that said "There is one God, Jehovah."

We're currently considering 2022 vacation options, none of which will include visiting 12 breweries, two wineries, and two winery tasting rooms. Well maybe one or two. My kid will be pleased.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 21, 2021, 01:26:22 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 12, 2021, 02:14:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 12, 2021, 11:42:21 am
We did try to go to the SB location of Modern Times for a pre-dinner beer last night, but they closed early (like at least a couple hours early) due to "low staff." Is the service industry hurting or what?

TAN: dunno about out east, but around these parts the service industry is having a hell of a time getting staff.  lots of restaurants can't re-open due to a lack of employees.  people are pointing fingers at:
- high employment benefits that result in people making more by not working (actual problem: service industry not offering a living wage)

- potential hires now demanding wages higher than the restaurant's business model can support (solution: fix the model if it's based on exploitation)
- former service industry employees moved (and moving) to other industries (got pissed off/lost hope in restaurants, realized it's a shitty sector with a terrible work/life balance, so found something better elsewhere)
- it's the democrats fault

restaurants in seattle are offering signing bonuses for waiters and kitchen staff.
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/20/1016081936/low-pay-no-benefits-rude-customers-restaurant-workers-quit-at-record-rate
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 21, 2021, 04:10:07 pm
At Aslin in Alex
(https://external-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQEUG-zlruaKK7p0&w=476&h=476&url=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com%2Fv%2Ft51.29350-15%2F221977432_992956577911522_1302823192025007712_n.jpg%3F_nc_cat%3D110%26ccb%3D1-3%26_nc_sid%3D8ae9d6%26_nc_ohc%3DiAaayyHoD1oAX-IbAIT%26_nc_ht%3Dscontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com%26oh%3D20b46bbc3f1cd52d66f8346de91c24eb%26oe%3D60FC9144&cfs=1&ccb=3-5&_nc_hash=AQFOgRry7Ob9XQm4)
Go drink some high ABV beers and throw Axes...what could possibly go wrong
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 21, 2021, 05:40:05 pm
Free michelob ultra from usain bolt this Saturday
https://people.com/food/usain-bolt-michelob-ultra-will-pay-for-beer-at-any-bar/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 21, 2021, 05:46:03 pm
Quote from: Side-panda ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 21, 2021, 05:40:05 pm
Free michelob ultra from usain bolt this Saturday
https://people.com/food/usain-bolt-michelob-ultra-will-pay-for-beer-at-any-bar/

I'm in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 22, 2021, 05:59:37 pm
anyone know a good porch repairman?

(https://i.imgur.com/cYSi4mm.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 23, 2021, 03:18:30 am
got a few chuckles from this:

The Navy SEAL who shot Bin Laden is hyping a new brewing company. We tried their beer so you don’t have to (https://taskandpurpose.com/mandatory-fun/navy-seal-rob-oneill-armed-forces-brewing-company-review/)
Just how special is Armed Forces Brewing Company's 'Special Hops' IPA?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 04, 2021, 04:11:22 pm
heads-up for those wanting to relive their college days one last time before the supply dries up:

Molson Coors Discontinues 11 Beers Including Keystone Ice and Milwaukee's Best Premium (https://www.foodandwine.com/news/molson-coors-discontinued-beers)
CEO Gavin Hattersley did offer a broader explanation. "After an extensive analysis of our business, we are meaningfully streamlining and premiumizing our U.S. portfolio,"

^ SERIOUZ BIDNIZ SPEEK

on the chopping block:
folks in the PNW are whining about that last one, as Henry's was a gateway beer to craft for many (especially around portland, i'm told).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 04, 2021, 04:23:35 pm
so keystone light is really the only one people have probably had

this one made me chuckle: Milwaukee's Best Premium


and I don't get this one...Miller High Life Light
I mean it's pretty much a light beer already and is Miller Lite kinda that beer
I don't think this beer had wide disto

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 04, 2021, 06:08:15 pm
These seem to all be offshoots of beers I may have had in high school. Never seen most of em.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 04, 2021, 08:09:48 pm
Quote from: Side-burbs ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 04, 2021, 04:23:35 pm
so keystone light is really the only one people have probably had

except that keystone light isn't on that list, so it will live on.  keystone ice is about to be retired.

i was kinda shocked to learn that anyone is still making "ice" beers.  they were a huge fad in canada in the late 80's?  early 90's?  for a while they were everywhere. 

Quote from: Side-burbs ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 04, 2021, 04:23:35 pm
this one made me chuckle: Milwaukee's Best Premium

how can he be premiumizing his portfolio if he's dropping Milwaukee's Best Premium??

Quote from: Side-burbs ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 04, 2021, 04:23:35 pm
and I don't get this one...Miller High Life Light
I mean it's pretty much a light beer already and is Miller Lite kinda that beer
I don't think this beer had wide disto

well miller high life is "light" in terms of flavor and mouthfeel, but you can always lower the ABV and the calories by making it even lighter...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on August 04, 2021, 09:21:14 pm
Miller high life is the champagne of beers


Way better than Miller lite which is like drinking water


Miller high life at least in this part of the country seems to be getting harder to find… kinda seems like they are phasing it out
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on August 04, 2021, 10:51:15 pm
Mickey's Ice.

That is as rock bottom, before rehab, as you get.  I should, know.  Drank it.  Drank Mickey's Big Mouth.  Dear God, how drunk I got.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 05, 2021, 07:13:29 am
Do they still make Mickey's in a wide mouth bottle? Twas a game changer, for a minute, in high school.

High Life is a great light beer. If a dive bar has the usual limited choices, High Life is the pick.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 05, 2021, 07:25:15 am
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 05, 2021, 07:13:29 am

High Life is a great light beer. If a dive bar has the usual limited choices, High Life is the pick.
Yep my go-to when at a dive
But hutch is right, harder to find
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 05, 2021, 07:28:39 am
Even in bottles?  Cans were always the rarities. Or so it seemed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 05, 2021, 08:09:11 am
Not sure where you guys are having a hard time finding high life, but it's always stacked in my fridge right next to the Modelitos.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on August 05, 2021, 09:06:33 am
Well I been having trouble finding it but admittedly not trying too hard


I will redouble my efforts! :)


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: moeszyslak on August 05, 2021, 01:16:15 pm
The Number Nine Lounge in the Del Rey neighborhood of Alexandria used to sell High Life served in a champagne flute.  I was in heaven when they served it. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 05, 2021, 02:10:14 pm
Plastic or crystal?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: moeszyslak on August 05, 2021, 02:26:52 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 05, 2021, 02:10:14 pm
Plastic or crystal?
I wish it was plastic, but I think it was glass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 05, 2021, 03:50:41 pm
today is IPA day, which i find shocking since just about every day is IPA day in my household...

National IPA Day – First Thursday in August (https://nationaldaycalendar.com/national-ipa-day-first-thursday-august/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 05, 2021, 05:35:36 pm
Quote from: moeszyslak on August 05, 2021, 01:16:15 pm
The Number Nine Lounge in the Del Rey neighborhood of Alexandria used to sell High Life served in a champagne flute.  I was in heaven when they served it.

Roses Luxury also serves it in a champagne flute.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on August 07, 2021, 12:14:10 pm
Hit Pen Druid this weekend if you can. Today they are having farmer's market and organic things for sale, plus a great food vendor now!

Plus they had awesome selection of bottles.  Bought 2 of each.  Good beer is expensive.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 09, 2021, 12:49:21 am
Quote from: sweetcell on August 04, 2021, 04:11:22 pm
on the chopping block:
  • Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve
folks in the PNW are whining about that last one, as Henry's was a gateway beer to craft for many (especially around portland, i'm told).

Epilogue: Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve (https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/2021/8/4/epilogue-henry-weinhards-private-reserve)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 09, 2021, 11:04:13 am
#triggerWarning

https://shop.3fonteinen.be/collections/lambic-beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: challenged on August 09, 2021, 11:47:57 am
stopped in for Union Brewing's 9th anniversary. Had an Old Pro Gose. Enjoyed.
Bought their limited release Golden Teacher (because of the cool artwork) to bring home and had that last night. Was good, interesting finish.

(https://i0.wp.com/www.unioncraftbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/UCB_Social2021_GoldenTeacher-Release.jpg?resize=614%2C768&ssl=1)

This sour blonde ale was fermented with peaches and then aged for thirteen months in oak barrels that previously held white wine. The barrels were then blended and the beer was rested in stainless tanks to mature for another seven months before being bottled and allowed to slowly condition.

Golden Teacher exhibits aromas and flavors of peach pie filling, tart under-ripe apple, golden raisins, honey, white wine, and toasted oak. Golden Teacher is intriguingly complex and will leave a lasting impression for those seeking a deep and unique beer drinking experience.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 11:49:18 am
I was supposed to be in Seattle for a work conference this week, perhaps sharing some beers with Sweetcell. The conference got kicked to a virtual format, but we'll be headed out tomorrow on vacation anyway. Not to Seattle, unfortunately, but a New Jersey/New York State road trip. Stopping at the Jersey Shore, Brooklyn (three nights), Hudson Valley, Finger Lakes (three nights), and back down through PA. I'll post any interesting beer stops and notes here.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 09, 2021, 12:05:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 11:49:18 am
I was supposed to be in Seattle for a work conference this week, perhaps sharing some beers with Sweetcell. The conference got kicked to a virtual format, but we'll be headed out tomorrow on vacation anyway. Not to Seattle, unfortunately, but a New Jersey/New York State road trip. Stopping at the Jersey Shore, Brooklyn (three nights), Hudson Valley, Finger Lakes (three nights), and back down through PA. I'll post any interesting beer stops and notes here.

Sounds like a super spreader event.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 09, 2021, 12:21:18 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 11:49:18 am
I was supposed to be in Seattle for a work conference this week, perhaps sharing some beers with Sweetcell. The conference got kicked to a virtual format

again: boooooo.  had a killer hike lined up for us, and a metal growler... next year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 12:24:24 pm
Quote from: challenged on August 09, 2021, 11:47:57 am
Bought their limited release Golden Teacher (because of the cool artwork)
Golden Teacher is a psychedelic Mushroom strain...hence the graphics
(https://growtrades.com/431-large_default/magicmushrooms-growbox-psilocybe-cubensis-golden-teacher.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 09, 2021, 12:26:23 pm
^ TIL
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 12:41:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 09, 2021, 12:05:32 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 11:49:18 am
I was supposed to be in Seattle for a work conference this week, perhaps sharing some beers with Sweetcell. The conference got kicked to a virtual format, but we'll be headed out tomorrow on vacation anyway. Not to Seattle, unfortunately, but a New Jersey/New York State road trip. Stopping at the Jersey Shore, Brooklyn (three nights), Hudson Valley, Finger Lakes (three nights), and back down through PA. I'll post any interesting beer stops and notes here.

Sounds like a super spreader event.

Not as much as the Dark Start Orchestra in Fredneck.

We're vaccinated, masked, introverted, and love the outdoors way more than crowds.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 12:43:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 09, 2021, 12:21:18 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 11:49:18 am
I was supposed to be in Seattle for a work conference this week, perhaps sharing some beers with Sweetcell. The conference got kicked to a virtual format

again: boooooo.  had a killer hike lined up for us, and a metal growler... next year?

Have another work conference in PNW in Summer 2024 (they line these things up years ahead of time.) So definitely that summer, if not before.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 09, 2021, 01:57:23 pm
Quote from: Side-burbs ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 12:24:24 pm
Quote from: challenged on August 09, 2021, 11:47:57 am
Bought their limited release Golden Teacher (because of the cool artwork)
Golden Teacher is a psychedelic Mushroom strain...hence the graphics
(https://growtrades.com/431-large_default/magicmushrooms-growbox-psilocybe-cubensis-golden-teacher.jpg)

can confirm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 09, 2021, 02:39:57 pm
where's ggw when you actually need him?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 09, 2021, 03:05:47 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 09, 2021, 02:39:57 pm
where's ggw when you actually need him?
I regret to have to inform you . . .
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 03:17:13 pm
there were some idiots I'm glad left and never came back...but I felt GGW was a great addition to the many flavors of the board and wish we weren't always talking to the echo chamber here
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 03:23:22 pm
Quote from: Side-burbs ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 03:17:13 pm
there were some idiots I'm glad left and never came back...but I felt GGW was a great addition to the many flavors of the board and wish we weren't always talking to the echo chamber here

At the risk of being labeled an idiot, I'll  posit that he preceded you here by a number of years. Wouldn't that make you the addition, and not him? :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 09, 2021, 03:24:58 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 03:23:22 pm
Quote from: Side-burbs ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 03:17:13 pm
there were some idiots I'm glad left and never came back...but I felt GGW was a great addition to the many flavors of the board and wish we weren't always talking to the echo chamber here

At the risk of being labeled an idiot, I'll  posit that he preceded you here by a number of years. Wouldn't that make you the addition, and not him? :)
*labels as idiot*
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 04:04:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 03:23:22 pm
Quote from: Side-burbs ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 03:17:13 pm
there were some idiots I'm glad left and never came back...but I felt GGW was a great addition to the many flavors of the board and wish we weren't always talking to the echo chamber here

At the risk of being labeled an idiot, I'll  posit that he preceded you here by a number of years. Wouldn't that make you the addition, and not him? :)

I'm horrible at grammar and spelling (and getting good seats...the trifecta) but did you seriously think that I meant what you said?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 04:10:27 pm
Quote from: Side-burbs ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 04:04:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 09, 2021, 03:23:22 pm
Quote from: Side-burbs ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 03:17:13 pm
there were some idiots I'm glad left and never came back...but I felt GGW was a great addition to the many flavors of the board and wish we weren't always talking to the echo chamber here

At the risk of being labeled an idiot, I'll  posit that he preceded you here by a number of years. Wouldn't that make you the addition, and not him? :)

I'm horrible at grammar and spelling (and getting good seats...the trifecta) but did you seriously think that I meant what you said?

He came and went at least a couple of times. I just assumed you weren't aware that he had been here prior to you (and me, I think.) and maybe he was "gone" at the point you joined, then later came back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 09, 2021, 04:35:57 pm
i don't think that being called "a great addition to the many flavors of the board" says anything about precedence of membership/longevity... it's merely a statement of appreciation of what he brought to the conversation. i think you misfired on this one, space.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 09, 2021, 07:56:55 pm
in local beer news (well, local for you lot)

- Sapwwod brewed a collab with Other Half: "We dropped by Other Half Brewing DC last week for the brew day on our collab Cone Concentrate. It's a DIPA brewed with loads of Simcoe (plus a custom Simcoe oil). You'll have to visit their place in a few weeks to snag it, but they'll be stopping by Columbia for a collab before too long!"

- Idiom Brewing in Fredneck is expanding: they're opening up a production facility with a bigger canning line, so expect to see 4-packs or sixers of their stuff on shelves at some point.  they got some big wooden foeders that will be used for lagers and stouts in the short-term, and sours eventually.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 10, 2021, 09:57:04 am
Haven’t been to many breweries in Frederick but Idiom is the best I’ve had.

If there are better ones, please advise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 11, 2021, 11:15:29 am
Yesterday, we stopped for a seafood lunch on the coast in Jersey, then hit the beach. After, we stopped at Kane Brewing, arguably one of the top breweries in Jersey. We sampled an ipa, a fruited berlinner, an Italian pilsner, and a barrel aged stout. All very good to excellent. Everything was outside under a large tent in their parking lot. Apparently, they still haven't reopened their indoor taproom....which was fine with me.

Not sure what's on tap for today beer wise, but we're a five minute walk from Folksbier and an eight minute walk from the original Other Half Brooklyn location.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 11, 2021, 12:20:04 pm
(https://images.wsj.net/im-383311?width=639&size=1.00078186082877249/)

Mountain Dew is getting a boozy kick.

PepsiCo Inc. and Boston Beer Co. said they plan to partner on an alcoholic version of the Mountain Dew soft drink with the brand Hard Mtn Dew. The coming product is a nod to what the companies see as evolving tastes of drinkers, executives said Tuesday.

Boston Beer, the company behind the Samuel Adams beer and Angry Orchard hard cider, will make the alcoholic Mountain Dew rendition, while PepsiCo has set up a new entity to sell the product, the companies said. They expect it to be on shelves in early 2022.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/mountain-dew-gets-boozy-rendition-in-pepsico-boston-beer-partnership-11628618239
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 11, 2021, 12:30:02 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 10, 2021, 09:57:04 am
Haven’t been to many breweries in Frederick but Idiom is the best I’ve had.

If there are better ones, please advise.

I've been to a bunch of the Fredneck breweries, and Idiom is probably the best. Monocacy is decent too. The rest, forgettable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 11, 2021, 12:44:37 pm
Quote from: vansmack on August 11, 2021, 12:20:04 pm
Mountain Dew is getting a boozy kick.

PepsiCo Inc. and Boston Beer Co. said they plan to partner on an alcoholic version of the Mountain Dew soft drink with the brand Hard Mtn Dew. The coming product is a nod to what the companies see as evolving tastes of drinkers, executives said Tuesday.

Boston Beer, the company behind the Samuel Adams beer and Angry Orchard hard cider, will make the alcoholic Mountain Dew rendition, while PepsiCo has set up a new entity to sell the product, the companies said. They expect it to be on shelves in early 2022.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/mountain-dew-gets-boozy-rendition-in-pepsico-boston-beer-partnership-11628618239

They shoulda called it Mountain Don't.
The first time someone accidentally dumped alcohol into Mountain Dew, they discovered meth.

 - Colbert
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 11, 2021, 05:49:23 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 11, 2021, 12:30:02 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 10, 2021, 09:57:04 am
Haven’t been to many breweries in Frederick but Idiom is the best I’ve had.

If there are better ones, please advise.

I've been to a bunch of the Fredneck breweries, and Idiom is probably the best. Monocacy is decent too. The rest, forgettable.

Thanks. Guess I’m done with that area!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 12, 2021, 05:14:09 pm
Hit up the OG OH yesterday. I had a nice fruited Berliner and a taster of a meh Brett IPA. She had two Tasters of TIPA, highly rated but too beastly for me. Tunes are in the hip hop range, but good hip hop.

Also went to Folksbier. Homey atmosphere, a Taylor Swift mix, and some really nice German beers. Didn't have 15 ipas on draft, but sometimes German is a good change of pace. Don't tell Atomic I said so.

Today it's Strong Rope, Finback, and Wild East. And then onto the Hudson Valley.

 Hit those three today and caught up with some college friends. Good beers and good times. The winner may have been the Finback BQE single barrel stout. Fucking awesome. Best stout in a long rime. 4 67 on untappd. Temps approaching 100, maybe Corona would have been the better choice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 13, 2021, 08:23:00 am
That's pretty much all Corona is good for.  But it does that well.

Was at Nepenthe again last night and would have killed for a stout. Weak-ish porters don't do it for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 13, 2021, 12:40:51 pm
Locations Zwanze Day 2021
As promised, here are the locations hosting this year’s Zwanze Day on Saturday, September 25th!
Santeï!
<snip>
• Monk’s Café — Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
• The Sovereign — Washington D.C.
• The Veil Brewing Co. — Richmond, Virginia
 
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/236581328_4531334453585162_9219798168068672770_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_eui2=AeHpdqw5lHzhv-35bEO3_O68nH8gNI2clTqcfyA0jZyVOvkK39dWm9ye0s4X3-gfkH8&_nc_ohc=UHxAG7G-cDkAX8Gm-65&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=03403372b9525be3fdf43cec96ea4ed8&oe=613A4C48)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 14, 2021, 06:29:15 pm
Hudson Valley Brewery yesterday. Awesome sour ipas and farmhouse ales. 95 degree day and no ac. Nasty.

Today we went to Brewery Ardennes near Seneca Lake. Really lovely place and awesome weather. Unfortunately the Belgian beers were only average
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 15, 2021, 09:27:24 pm
Today went with my bro and ma to Aurora Brewery. Beer was good and so was the view of Cayuga Lake.

Also picked up some Mortalis cans at a local shop
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 17, 2021, 09:47:30 am
With a brewery stop (sometimes two) each day of the road trip, patience was wearing thin among some in our party "I'm sick of all these mediocre breweries." (when you're drinking Other Half at home on a daily basis, even very good breweries seem mediocre), "My dad must be an alcoholic, even if he only drinks eight ounces of beer a day when he's not on vacation. Now buy me another sugar drink."

Anyway, we stopped for lunch at Ever Grain in suburban Harrisburg on the way home. Food quality was well above the standard brewery fare, fruited sours and IPA's were top notch, and my other two thirds highly enjoyed the 90's hop hop. For a day, I was redeemed.

End of road trip. I think I'm making pasta and drinking wine tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 23, 2021, 04:09:41 pm
Snallygaster, anyone?

https://131fc985-8d3b-4125-9032-d87d8f0b4e3c.filesusr.com/ugd/41fc83_b919916825854053b70fddf8e759f5ab.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 24, 2021, 09:20:38 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 23, 2021, 04:09:41 pm
Snallygaster, anyone?

https://131fc985-8d3b-4125-9032-d87d8f0b4e3c.filesusr.com/ugd/41fc83_b919916825854053b70fddf8e759f5ab.pdf

Won't be making it, but a heck of a list!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 29, 2021, 01:48:49 pm
Spent Saturday tubing the Shenandoah. Today I decided to forgo a visit to forum favorite Pen Druid so that we could be home earlier. Instead we visited *former* forum favorite Aslin in Herndon. Had not been to the new spot - ‘twas nice. Do not regret my decision.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 30, 2021, 01:37:39 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on August 29, 2021, 01:48:49 pm
Spent Saturday tubing the Shenandoah. Today I decided to forgo a visit to forum favorite Pen Druid so that we could be home earlier. Instead we visited *former* forum favorite Aslin in Herndon. Had not been to the new spot - ‘twas nice. Do not regret my decision.

Where'd you go tubing? Commercial place of BYO?

I took Friday off and hiked White Oak Canyon bottom up to top waterfall. About 5.4 miles, maybe 1800 feet gain. 91 degrees but the 15 minutes spent in the lower falls made it all worth it.

Then stopped by Pen Druid. Had the wild ale they were blending with grape juice. Note to self: don't bother with beers blended with grape juice again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 30, 2021, 03:52:38 pm
Commercial. Shenandoah River Outfitters, I think?  Wife and I rented a place in Rileyville, 30 minutes or so from Pen Druid. I would like to go there someday, for sure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 30, 2021, 05:12:18 pm
what we really want to know is, did you get the cooler tube too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 31, 2021, 11:23:20 am
Of course!  Why tube without one?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 31, 2021, 05:54:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 23, 2021, 04:09:41 pm
Snallygaster, anyone?

https://131fc985-8d3b-4125-9032-d87d8f0b4e3c.filesusr.com/ugd/41fc83_b919916825854053b70fddf8e759f5ab.pdf

very tempting
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 31, 2021, 05:56:25 pm
So what is the resale market on something like snallygaster?   do you think a lot of people will be trying to unload their tickets
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on August 31, 2021, 06:00:23 pm
brief tasting notes on my recent LA work trip

Bottle Logic - good stouts although probably couldn't drink more than 3 oz of any of them - ok mostly west coast ipas and a nice helles lager - staff were super friendly

Green Cheek - decent NEIPAs of their own + Pliny on tap

Highland Park - I really like the space and the vibe but the beers are just ok

Homage Brewing - this is their second location and about a 1 minute walk from Highland Park - I had an amazing blended barrel aged saison and an ok table beer

Mumford - I was here about 3 years ago and loved it but did not like anything on offer there this time around
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 31, 2021, 06:03:00 pm
Quote from: Slyhatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 31, 2021, 05:56:25 pm
So what is the resale market on something like snallygaster?   do you think a lot of people will be trying to unload their tickets

I'm sure they'll be available here and there but why would there be a large resale market? Anyone buying tickets to that outdoor event probably has very little covid concerns.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 31, 2021, 07:27:32 pm
Quote from: brennser on August 31, 2021, 06:00:23 pm
brief tasting notes on my recent LA work trip

Bottle Logic - good stouts although probably couldn't drink more than 3 oz of any of them - ok mostly west coast ipas and a nice helles lager - staff were super friendly

Green Cheek - decent NEIPAs of their own + Pliny on tap

Highland Park - I really like the space and the vibe but the beers are just ok

Homage Brewing - this is their second location and about a 1 minute walk from Highland Park - I had an amazing blended barrel aged saison and an ok table beer

Mumford - I was here about 3 years ago and loved it but did not like anything on offer there this time around

Wow you're tough. Of those, we only hit GC and HP. I liked the neipas at GC better than you  did. Agree on HP.

BL and Homage were closed on the days we were in their neighborhood. Wasn't interested in Mumford.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 31, 2021, 07:29:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 31, 2021, 06:03:00 pm
Quote from: Slyhatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 31, 2021, 05:56:25 pm
So what is the resale market on something like snallygaster?   do you think a lot of people will be trying to unload their tickets

I'm sure they'll be available here and there but why would there be a large resale market? Anyone buying tickets to that outdoor event probably has very little covid concerns.

Not sure if it's relevant info, but I think they said they were only selling half asany tix this year
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 03, 2021, 02:02:12 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-Xb5AYX0BcI8s2?format=jpg&name=medium)

Why is this in the beer thread you say...the quote is actually by Samuel Adams, who owned a tavern in Boston, not john adams our 2nd president

Oh yeah this person didn't graduate high school, but has a vote in congress
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 07, 2021, 10:29:17 am
anyone doing the aslin 6 year party?

also they stole some IP from IMP  https://www.aslinbeer.com/friends-with-benefits
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 07, 2021, 10:44:49 am
Quote from: Hatch-atar ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 07, 2021, 10:29:17 am
anyone doing the aslin 6 year party?

also they stole some IP from IMP  https://www.aslinbeer.com/friends-with-benefits

Isn't it about twice the price as Snallygaster, with a third as many breweries and no DC backdrop? But you do get sunglasses.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 08, 2021, 12:30:06 pm
Sapwood Cellars Brewery

Tickets for our Third Anniversary Party on Saturday 9/25 are available now! $40 price includes a taster glass and ten 4-oz pours of vintage kegs, one-off variants, and new beers! https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/third-anniversary-party-tickets (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/third-anniversary-party-tickets)

Rather than deal with a mad rush or beers running out, we’re breaking the event into three 2.5 hour blocks (12:00-2:30 PM, 3:30-6:00 PM, and 7:00-9:30 PM). You can be there for the whole window, or just part of it. Included in the price you’ll get a 4 oz pour of all of the beers in a unique anniversary taster glass that is yours to keep.

Tentative Beer List:
1. BSCV (Bourbon-Barrel-Aged Imperial Stout with Coconut and Vanilla)
2. S’more Bourbon Barrel Stout
3. Growth Rings (3-Year Blend of Barrel Aged Pale Sours)
4. Cheater X3 (Triple IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Galaxy)
5. Mega-Juicius (Cheater X3 with Grapefruit, Orange, & Vanilla)
6. 2020 There Are No Edges (Port Barrel Vin de Cereale)
7. 2020 Order to Chaos #2 (Blend of Sour Red and Imperial Stout barrels)
8. Barrel-Aged Jousse (Pulpy Sour)
9. Stalks (Rhubarb Sour) with Strawberries
10. Simcoe Simpatico IPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 08, 2021, 04:53:25 pm
Anybody heard of Implexum? Wild ales made in Maryland. Initial untappd scores look strong. Not sure how many 26 oz bottles of wild ale I need. 12oz bottles are better, even when I'm splitting.

https://www.facebook.com/implexumbeer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 08, 2021, 04:55:55 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 08, 2021, 12:30:06 pm
Sapwood Cellars Brewery

Tickets for our Third Anniversary Party on Saturday 9/25 are available now! $40 price includes a taster glass and ten 4-oz pours of vintage kegs, one-off variants, and new beers! https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/third-anniversary-party-tickets (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/third-anniversary-party-tickets)

Rather than deal with a mad rush or beers running out, we’re breaking the event into three 2.5 hour blocks (12:00-2:30 PM, 3:30-6:00 PM, and 7:00-9:30 PM). You can be there for the whole window, or just part of it. Included in the price you’ll get a 4 oz pour of all of the beers in a unique anniversary taster glass that is yours to keep.

Tentative Beer List:
1. BSCV (Bourbon-Barrel-Aged Imperial Stout with Coconut and Vanilla)
2. S’more Bourbon Barrel Stout
3. Growth Rings (3-Year Blend of Barrel Aged Pale Sours)
4. Cheater X3 (Triple IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Galaxy)
5. Mega-Juicius (Cheater X3 with Grapefruit, Orange, & Vanilla)
6. 2020 There Are No Edges (Port Barrel Vin de Cereale)
7. 2020 Order to Chaos #2 (Blend of Sour Red and Imperial Stout barrels)
8. Barrel-Aged Jousse (Pulpy Sour)
9. Stalks (Rhubarb Sour) with Strawberries
10. Simcoe Simpatico IPA

I would go to that, if I lived nearby. They really need to include sunglasses though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2021, 05:07:54 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 08, 2021, 04:53:25 pm
Anybody heard of Implexum? Wild ales made in Maryland. Initial untappd scores look strong. Not sure how many 26 oz bottles of wild ale I need. 12oz bottles are better, even when I'm splitting.

https://www.facebook.com/implexumbeer/
I'm sorry, but they are just geographically unattractive
what on earth would I be doing in Laurel MD...other than resting
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 08, 2021, 05:34:01 pm
Quote from: Hatch-atar ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2021, 05:07:54 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 08, 2021, 04:53:25 pm
Anybody heard of Implexum? Wild ales made in Maryland. Initial untappd scores look strong. Not sure how many 26 oz bottles of wild ale I need. 12oz bottles are better, even when I'm splitting.

https://www.facebook.com/implexumbeer/
I'm sorry, but they are just geographically unattractive
what on earth would I be doing in Laurel MD...other than resting

Apparently they are a collaboration between some folks at Jailbreak (not a fan) and Evil Twin (they're ok, I guess.) Hence the Laurel (Jailbreak) location.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 08, 2021, 07:07:01 pm
Only available at Jailbreak, I take it? And nothing until December.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 08, 2021, 07:08:38 pm
I’d totally go to the Sapwood event but my wife can’t handle 10 4oz pours of that stuff. I guess I could drink half of hers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2021, 08:43:26 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 08, 2021, 07:08:38 pm
. I guess I could drink half of hers.
that's the kind of out of the box thinking I expect from this board!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 08, 2021, 10:08:31 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 08, 2021, 07:07:01 pm
Only available at Jailbreak, I take it? And nothing until December.

Downtown Crown got three limited bottles over the weekend. I checked earlier today, the sour quad was gone, the other two nearly gone.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 08, 2021, 10:09:56 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 08, 2021, 07:08:38 pm
I’d totally go to the Sapwood event but my wife can’t handle 10 4oz pours of that stuff. I guess I could drink half of hers.
I could drink the much if I were sitting at home, or if Metro went there, but not where they are located.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 09, 2021, 07:28:02 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 08, 2021, 10:08:31 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on September 08, 2021, 07:07:01 pm
Only available at Jailbreak, I take it? And nothing until December.

Downtown Crown got three limited bottles over the weekend. I checked earlier today, the sour quad was gone, the other two nearly gone.

Quite the gamble at $25/pop.  For that price I'd hate to just "like" it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 13, 2021, 01:15:11 pm
Made my second trip to the Other Half DC spot this weekend... What a perfect brewery!

If I had one complaint, it would be nice to have some snacks or something. I'm not expecting a kitchen by any means, but something to pick on vs. having to order take out/delivery...

Had probably eight pours, all above average to great. I wish it wasn't so far away. ;(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 01:32:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 01:15:11 pm
Made my second trip to the Other Half DC spot this weekend... What a perfect brewery!

If I had one complaint, it would be nice to have some snacks or something. I'm not expecting a kitchen by any means, but something to pick on vs. having to order take out/delivery...

Had probably eight pours, all above average to great. I wish it wasn't so far away. ;(

Thinking of pregaming there Friday night before Dr. Dog. Might grab some food from Baker's Daughter and carry it over. Menu looks good.

 Last time we were there  was the California brewery tap takeover (June?), which included Monkish. My wife grabbed a pizza somewhere around the corner and through the alley while my daughter and I secured seats at OH. She said she was harassed by a bunch of homeless men in the alley. Oops. Guess I should have picked up the pizza and gotten harassed.

There's a handful of guys on the Beer Advocate forum who really hate the DC brewed OH beers. I think maybe Brennser has been in that camp? I don't even know if I've had any of the DC beers, I typically get the cans from the Brooklyn/Finger Lakes drops.

Can't complain about the place itself. Well actually last time we were in a seat where the music was way too loud, until we found a better seat. But yes, we like it as well. Just don't do the takeout pizza. Good pizza but dicey takeout. I think it was called della barba.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 13, 2021, 01:40:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 01:15:11 pm
Made my second trip to the Other Half DC spot this weekend... What a perfect brewery!

If I had one complaint, it would be nice to have some snacks or something. I'm not expecting a kitchen by any means, but something to pick on vs. having to order take out/delivery...

Had probably eight pours, all above average to great. I wish it wasn't so far away. ;(
there is a MoM's about 1.5 blocks from there...perfect for getting snaks
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 13, 2021, 03:52:20 pm
Quote from: Side-Mod ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 13, 2021, 01:40:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 01:15:11 pm
Made my second trip to the Other Half DC spot this weekend... What a perfect brewery!

If I had one complaint, it would be nice to have some snacks or something. I'm not expecting a kitchen by any means, but something to pick on vs. having to order take out/delivery...

Had probably eight pours, all above average to great. I wish it wasn't so far away. ;(
there is a MoM's about 1.5 blocks from there...perfect for getting snaks

Mmmmm.....moms
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 13, 2021, 03:53:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 01:32:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 01:15:11 pm
Made my second trip to the Other Half DC spot this weekend... What a perfect brewery!

If I had one complaint, it would be nice to have some snacks or something. I'm not expecting a kitchen by any means, but something to pick on vs. having to order take out/delivery...

Had probably eight pours, all above average to great. I wish it wasn't so far away. ;(


 Last time we were there  was the California brewery tap takeover (June?), which included Monkish. My wife grabbed a pizza somewhere around the corner and through the alley while my daughter and I secured seats at OH. She said she was harassed by a bunch of homeless men in the alley. Oops. Guess I should have picked up the pizza and gotten harassed.

There's a handful of guys on the Beer Advocate forum who really hate the DC brewed OH beers. I think maybe Brennser has been in that camp? I don't even know if I've had any of the DC beers, I typically get the cans from the Brooklyn/Finger Lakes drops.

Can't complain about the place itself. Well actually last time we were in a seat where the music was way too loud, until we found a better seat. But yes, we like it as well. Just don't do the takeout pizza. Good pizza but dicey takeout. I think it was called della barba.

Can't comment on the cans as I'm not sure I've even had any yet from DC and haven't bought any Other Half cans in probably six months. The drafts were delicious though.

We went to Ghibiliena (SP) post drinks and it was mediocre at best. Wouldn't return.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:10:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 03:53:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 01:32:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 01:15:11 pm
Made my second trip to the Other Half DC spot this weekend... What a perfect brewery!

If I had one complaint, it would be nice to have some snacks or something. I'm not expecting a kitchen by any means, but something to pick on vs. having to order take out/delivery...

Had probably eight pours, all above average to great. I wish it wasn't so far away. ;(


 Last time we were there  was the California brewery tap takeover (June?), which included Monkish. My wife grabbed a pizza somewhere around the corner and through the alley while my daughter and I secured seats at OH. She said she was harassed by a bunch of homeless men in the alley. Oops. Guess I should have picked up the pizza and gotten harassed.

There's a handful of guys on the Beer Advocate forum who really hate the DC brewed OH beers. I think maybe Brennser has been in that camp? I don't even know if I've had any of the DC beers, I typically get the cans from the Brooklyn/Finger Lakes drops.

Can't complain about the place itself. Well actually last time we were in a seat where the music was way too loud, until we found a better seat. But yes, we like it as well. Just don't do the takeout pizza. Good pizza but dicey takeout. I think it was called della barba.

Can't comment on the cans as I'm not sure I've even had any yet from DC and haven't bought any Other Half cans in probably six months. The drafts were delicious though.

We went to Ghibiliena (SP) post drinks and it was mediocre at best. Wouldn't return.

I would imagine some of the kegs are from their other locations?

I like the can consumption at the brewery option. Sure, you're only going to get to try one of two of them per visit (well maybe three or four if you have a sharing partner, maybe more if you have multiple sharing partners), but it's a much better Space ratio compared to the draft pricing.

I think there's also some color coding on the cans which are a giveaway to which location the beer is from. But i get my cans from DTC (once every couple of months) and they tell you on FB where the delivery is coming from.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:17:18 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:10:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 03:53:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 01:32:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 01:15:11 pm
Made my second trip to the Other Half DC spot this weekend... What a perfect brewery!

If I had one complaint, it would be nice to have some snacks or something. I'm not expecting a kitchen by any means, but something to pick on vs. having to order take out/delivery...

Had probably eight pours, all above average to great. I wish it wasn't so far away. ;(


 Last time we were there  was the California brewery tap takeover (June?), which included Monkish. My wife grabbed a pizza somewhere around the corner and through the alley while my daughter and I secured seats at OH. She said she was harassed by a bunch of homeless men in the alley. Oops. Guess I should have picked up the pizza and gotten harassed.

There's a handful of guys on the Beer Advocate forum who really hate the DC brewed OH beers. I think maybe Brennser has been in that camp? I don't even know if I've had any of the DC beers, I typically get the cans from the Brooklyn/Finger Lakes drops.

Can't complain about the place itself. Well actually last time we were in a seat where the music was way too loud, until we found a better seat. But yes, we like it as well. Just don't do the takeout pizza. Good pizza but dicey takeout. I think it was called della barba.

Can't comment on the cans as I'm not sure I've even had any yet from DC and haven't bought any Other Half cans in probably six months. The drafts were delicious though.

We went to Ghibiliena (SP) post drinks and it was mediocre at best. Wouldn't return.

I would imagine some of the kegs are from their other locations?

I like the can consumption at the brewery option. Sure, you're only going to get to try one of two of them per visit (well maybe three or four if you have a sharing partner, maybe more if you have multiple sharing partners), but it's a much better Space ratio compared to the draft pricing.

I think there's also some color coding on the cans which are a giveaway to which location the beer is from. But i get my cans from DTC (once every couple of months) and they tell you on FB where the delivery is coming from.

Considering the operation going down there, I highly doubt they're getting kegs shipped there from other locations... Seems to defeat the purpose.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:23:46 pm
According to their FAQ, sounds like you can get the DC beer in Brooklyn, but nothing about the Brooklyn beers in DC. I'll be the dork who asks the bartender if we go on Friday.

Do all locations brew the same beer?
Nope! While we’ll offer some of the same beers in all locations, each location has its own specialties. We do offer beer from all locations at our Brooklyn taprooms, but the best way to sample beer from different locations is by purchasing beer for shipping.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:27:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:23:46 pm
According to their FAQ, sounds like you can get the DC beer in Brooklyn, but nothing about the Brooklyn beers in DC. I'll be the dork who asks the bartender if we go on Friday.

Do all locations brew the same beer?
Nope! While we’ll offer some of the same beers in all locations, each location has its own specialties. We do offer beer from all locations at our Brooklyn taprooms, but the best way to sample beer from different locations is by purchasing beer for shipping.

Are you referring to cans?? Once again, assuming beer being brewed 50 feet away in giant tanks are being canned for shipment from DC and then actual drafts area coming from that tank vs. a keg being shipped from where ever.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:37:36 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:27:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:23:46 pm
According to their FAQ, sounds like you can get the DC beer in Brooklyn, but nothing about the Brooklyn beers in DC. I'll be the dork who asks the bartender if we go on Friday.

Do all locations brew the same beer?
Nope! While we’ll offer some of the same beers in all locations, each location has its own specialties. We do offer beer from all locations at our Brooklyn taprooms, but the best way to sample beer from different locations is by purchasing beer for shipping.

Are you referring to cans?? Once again, assuming beer being brewed 50 feet away in giant tanks are being canned for shipment from DC and then actual drafts area coming from that tank vs. a keg being shipped from where ever.

Yes, I am the dork that just called OHDC and asked. The kind woman who answered the phone said that both the kegs and the cans at the DC location are from a mix of the DC location and the New York locations. So there's the answer, unless she was lying or was mistaken.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:38:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:37:36 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:27:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:23:46 pm
According to their FAQ, sounds like you can get the DC beer in Brooklyn, but nothing about the Brooklyn beers in DC. I'll be the dork who asks the bartender if we go on Friday.

Do all locations brew the same beer?
Nope! While we’ll offer some of the same beers in all locations, each location has its own specialties. We do offer beer from all locations at our Brooklyn taprooms, but the best way to sample beer from different locations is by purchasing beer for shipping.

Are you referring to cans?? Once again, assuming beer being brewed 50 feet away in giant tanks are being canned for shipment from DC and then actual drafts area coming from that tank vs. a keg being shipped from where ever.

Yes, I am the dork that just called OHDC and asked. The kind woman who answered the phone said that both the kegs and the cans at the DC location are from a mix of the DC location and the New York locations. So there's the answer, unless she was lying or was mistaken.

Well shit! Seems like a dumb move when these guys have a tap list 20 beers long... Why do they need more kegs shipped to them from NYC?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:44:07 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:38:43 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:37:36 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:27:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 13, 2021, 04:23:46 pm
According to their FAQ, sounds like you can get the DC beer in Brooklyn, but nothing about the Brooklyn beers in DC. I'll be the dork who asks the bartender if we go on Friday.

Do all locations brew the same beer?
Nope! While we’ll offer some of the same beers in all locations, each location has its own specialties. We do offer beer from all locations at our Brooklyn taprooms, but the best way to sample beer from different locations is by purchasing beer for shipping.

Are you referring to cans?? Once again, assuming beer being brewed 50 feet away in giant tanks are being canned for shipment from DC and then actual drafts area coming from that tank vs. a keg being shipped from where ever.

Yes, I am the dork that just called OHDC and asked. The kind woman who answered the phone said that both the kegs and the cans at the DC location are from a mix of the DC location and the New York locations. So there's the answer, unless she was lying or was mistaken.

Well shit! Seems like a dumb move when these guys have a tap list 20 beers long... Why do they need more kegs shipped to them from NYC?

I'll call back later and ask them that one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 13, 2021, 04:47:38 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:38:43 pm
Well shit! Seems like a dumb move when these guys have a tap list 20 beers long... Why do they need more kegs shipped to them from NYC?

Demand? I guess there's enough demand that they need to import extra beer from lands beyond. Have to assume they're not over-ordering then dumping stock.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on September 13, 2021, 05:00:48 pm
I harshed on OHDC beers on BA when they first opened.

But I agree that the brewery is just a great place to hang out and have drinks.

And, maybe their beers are getting better - I really enjoyed the 4 pack of Dad Drip I picked up at Magruders a week or so ago
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 13, 2021, 06:50:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:38:43 pm
Well shit! Seems like a dumb move when these guys have a tap list 20 beers long... Why do they need more kegs shipped to them from NYC?

because marketing.  do you want to go to a tasting room with 10 taps or with 20?  most people will say 20.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 13, 2021, 08:08:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 13, 2021, 06:50:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:38:43 pm
Well shit! Seems like a dumb move when these guys have a tap list 20 beers long... Why do they need more kegs shipped to them from NYC?

because marketing.  do you want to go to a tasting room with 10 taps or with 20?  most people will say 20.

And?? I wasn't suggesting otherwise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2021, 01:24:53 pm
Aslin expands to Pittsburgh

Coming Summer 2022: Aslin’s Pittsburgh taproom & brewhouse will be located in the Strip District’s Terminal building
A 10-barrel brewhouse, lagering tanks, open fermenters & fouders will support new brewing processes, techniques & ingredient choices. The space will also include a 7,000 sqft taproom, second floor mezzanine, outdoor patio and cafe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 14, 2021, 01:25:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 08:08:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 13, 2021, 06:50:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:38:43 pm
Well shit! Seems like a dumb move when these guys have a tap list 20 beers long... Why do they need more kegs shipped to them from NYC?

because marketing.  do you want to go to a tasting room with 10 taps or with 20?  most people will say 20.

And?? I wasn't suggesting otherwise.

if they weren't getting kegs shipped to the them - i.e. they were dependent on their in-house production - they'd have 10 taps, not 20. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 14, 2021, 02:06:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 14, 2021, 01:25:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 08:08:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 13, 2021, 06:50:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:38:43 pm
Well shit! Seems like a dumb move when these guys have a tap list 20 beers long... Why do they need more kegs shipped to them from NYC?

because marketing.  do you want to go to a tasting room with 10 taps or with 20?  most people will say 20.

And?? I wasn't suggesting otherwise.

if they weren't getting kegs shipped to the them - i.e. they were dependent on their in-house production - they'd have 10 taps, not 20.

I think this is the case, just observing Downtown Crown's OH can distribution. They tend to get about three new cans a week from DC, and a lot more than that from NY. If they're really only doing three cans a week in DC, they may only be doing three new beers a week and thus need help from NY. Who knows.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 14, 2021, 03:58:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 14, 2021, 01:25:37 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 08:08:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 13, 2021, 06:50:19 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 13, 2021, 04:38:43 pm
Well shit! Seems like a dumb move when these guys have a tap list 20 beers long... Why do they need more kegs shipped to them from NYC?

because marketing.  do you want to go to a tasting room with 10 taps or with 20?  most people will say 20.

And?? I wasn't suggesting otherwise.

if they weren't getting kegs shipped to the them - i.e. they were dependent on their in-house production - they'd have 10 taps, not 20.

Once again, the production capacity at the DC location is 30,000 barrels a year which equates to approximately 7.5 million 16oz pours or cans... Maybe they just can't make beer fast enough...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 14, 2021, 04:31:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 14, 2021, 03:58:51 pm
Once again, the production capacity at the DC location is 30,000 barrels a year which equates to approximately 7.5 million 16oz pours or cans... Maybe they just can't make beer fast enough...

other than flagships, i doubt all breweries are making the same thing.  so DC is sending its one-offs to NY, and NY is sending us what isn't made here.  so it's not about capacity, it's about availability.  certain brews might require specialized equipment that only one location has.  more likely, they don't think they can sell two breweries' outputs worth of a given brew (other than said flagships).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 14, 2021, 05:05:44 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 14, 2021, 04:31:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 14, 2021, 03:58:51 pm
Once again, the production capacity at the DC location is 30,000 barrels a year which equates to approximately 7.5 million 16oz pours or cans... Maybe they just can't make beer fast enough...

other than flagships, i doubt all breweries are making the same thing.  so DC is sending its one-offs to NY, and NY is sending us what isn't made here.  so it's not about capacity, it's about availability.  certain brews might require specialized equipment that only one location has.  more likely, they don't think they can sell two breweries' outputs worth of a given brew (other than said flagships).

Can confirm. That "beard yeast" beer a few years back only contained the "beard yeast" from one person.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 14, 2021, 05:41:01 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 14, 2021, 04:31:56 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 14, 2021, 03:58:51 pm
Once again, the production capacity at the DC location is 30,000 barrels a year which equates to approximately 7.5 million 16oz pours or cans... Maybe they just can't make beer fast enough...

other than flagships, i doubt all breweries are making the same thing.  so DC is sending its one-offs to NY, and NY is sending us what isn't made here.  so it's not about capacity, it's about availability.  certain brews might require specialized equipment that only one location has.  more likely, they don't think they can sell two breweries' outputs worth of a given brew (other than said flagships).

This isn't a rip on OH, but can confirm there is nothing special being poured there... 90% are hazy ipas that taste all very similar and have a different hop added.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 15, 2021, 01:23:17 pm
Some epic beer porn from an old beer pal that attended 3F open beer days and other European adventures.

Talk about a vacation dedicated to drinking beer!

https://imgur.com/gallery/Iy83bFz
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 15, 2021, 03:00:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 15, 2021, 01:23:17 pm
Some epic beer porn from an old beer pal that attended 3F open beer days and other European adventures.

Talk about a vacation dedicated to drinking beer!

https://imgur.com/gallery/Iy83bFz

space really, really, REALLY needs to step up his beer-tourism game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 17, 2021, 01:00:45 pm
um...why is Anheuser Busch calling me?  I shaved my beard and no longer look like a head brewer?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVELok6GgLx-D1BB_y-HBdd_AdiVCOu23KtT6re_4tcwkc9tFNrmhlpvO7tI3lVwBDkB2oVZjzC7sTGaO976PncbrWPNezL-54Z_gLv2fVJ2WYhlPIP3zPn5EH_9HuIGIgz90QVpWpvZbunT0ORgCmRfA=w527-h937-no)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 17, 2021, 01:29:31 pm
"we've been trying to reach you about an extended warrantee for your beer fridge..."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 22, 2021, 07:48:00 pm
Heilung beer!
https://www.facebook.com/100044386240843/posts/400429948113210/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 24, 2021, 03:28:56 pm
I know it's not cool to like the fruited sours, but damn if there's anyone doing it better than Cushwa, fill me in. Perfect day for hiking and beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on September 24, 2021, 03:44:37 pm
Perfect day….such a perfect day


Welcome Fall. Stay a while
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 24, 2021, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: Starsky on September 24, 2021, 03:44:37 pm
Perfect day….such a perfect day


Welcome Fall. Stay a while

Amen to that. Planning a once in a lifetime guys trip with my brother for Fall 2022 but the weather here is so damn perfect I don't want to leave.

And as I was typing that Lovely Day by Bill Withers started playing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 24, 2021, 05:48:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 24, 2021, 03:28:56 pm
I know it's not cool to like the fruited sours

since when?  i guess i missed the memo... i love fruited sours.  if the sour isn't fruited or dry-hopped, it's a huge wasted opportunity IMO.

are the sour-fruit-hater anti-kriek as well?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2021, 03:56:00 am
Quote from: Space Freely on September 24, 2021, 03:28:56 pm
I know it's not cool to like the fruited sours
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/243662260_3036835063260246_349370447643147785_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_eui2=AeHE42DgPE2IpbwCpclNFMkZXFaCbmPYt65cVoJuY9i3rkHg_gOnl0pZ5MOH_VXIJns&_nc_ohc=dgjseh6wjzQAX-MWLvI&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=7d0bcf034ea24058f80996236479512c&oe=617AAC6A)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 01, 2021, 08:37:07 am
Quote from: sweetcell on September 24, 2021, 05:48:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 24, 2021, 03:28:56 pm
I know it's not cool to like the fruited sours

since when?  i guess i missed the memo... i love fruited sours.  if the sour isn't fruited or dry-hopped, it's a huge wasted opportunity IMO.

are the sour-fruit-hater anti-kriek as well?



Sorry I forgot to reply to this before. When I was talking about "fruited sours", I was referring specifically to a beer like this one:

https://untappd.com/b/cushwa-brewing-company-western-maryland-vacation-packages/4504229

A mango coconut bread pudding sour

...which, by the way, is an awesome beer.


I wasn't talking about barrel aged sours or Belgian sours fruited wild ales...all stuff the snobs do love.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 01, 2021, 09:19:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 01, 2021, 08:37:07 am


I wasn't talking about barrel aged sours or Belgian sours fruited wild ales...all stuff the snobs do love.

Sounds like space is mad he's paying $7.99 for a can of trub and doesn't have access to the good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WALKonBack on October 01, 2021, 09:32:42 am
Sours, are the Gods of beers. All other beers, are just disciples.

Oh, and for Space . . . penis.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 01, 2021, 10:25:55 am
bought one of these beauties for the weekend...

(https://www.dominionwineandbeerstore.com/uploads/1/3/1/2/131289098/s208287755671695697_p12360_i1_w3024.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 01, 2021, 11:29:54 am
Quote from: Yada on October 01, 2021, 09:19:44 am
Quote from: Space Freely on October 01, 2021, 08:37:07 am


I wasn't talking about barrel aged sours or Belgian sours fruited wild ales...all stuff the snobs do love.

Sounds like space is mad he's paying $7.99 for a can of trub and doesn't have access to the good stuff.

Oh, I have a good three cases of the "good stuff" sitting in my basement. Cantillion, Drie Fonteinen, Casey, the Bruery, Russian River, the Veil, Allagash, Trillium, Oxbow, Crooked Stave, Hudson Valley, Pantomime Mixtures, etc.

That doesn't make me like Cushwa's fruited sours any less.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2021, 12:03:50 pm
speaking of Cantillion
went to Zwanze day at the sovereign for a few

I couldn't stay for the 2021 tapping (I know....lame), but did have some of the 2020.   Beetroot was odd, but I liked it
Really liked the Tucher Brau Hefeweizen....not your daddys typical Hefe...very dark and tasty (actually a Dunkelweizen, but listed as a Hefe?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 01, 2021, 12:22:25 pm
Quote from: Sidehatch ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2021, 12:03:50 pm
speaking of Cantillion
went to Zwanze day at the sovereign for a few

I couldn't stay for the 2021 tapping (I know....lame), but did have some of the 2020.   Beetroot was odd, but I liked it
Really liked the Tucher Brau Hefeweizen....not your daddys typical Hefe...very dark and tasty (actually a Dunkelweizen, but listed as a Hefe?)

I don't know anything about that hefe, but are you sure which of these two beers you were drinking?

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/129/370/

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/129/371/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2021, 01:54:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 01, 2021, 12:22:25 pm

I don't know anything about that hefe, but are you sure which of these two beers you were drinking?

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/129/370/
the Dunkelweizen one, was on tap so didn't see the bottle
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2021, 02:14:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 01, 2021, 08:37:07 am
When I was talking about "fruited sours", I was referring specifically to a beer like this one:

https://untappd.com/b/cushwa-brewing-company-western-maryland-vacation-packages/4504229 (https://untappd.com/b/cushwa-brewing-company-western-maryland-vacation-packages/4504229)

A mango coconut bread pudding sour

...which, by the way, is an awesome beer.

ah, gotcha.  yeah, those "milkshake sours"/"smoothie sours" have a bad rep. 

i haven't come across many of them that are particularly good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2021, 02:58:26 pm
rant: the pandemic has resulted in a lot of changes at my local grocery store.  on the beer front, they've actually improved the freshness of regional brands (Fremont, Georgetown, Reuben's, etc.) but they've cut back to core brands - fewer seasonals, one-offs, etc.  while that's a mild annoyance for me most of the year, it's a big issue right now: it's fresh-hop/wet-hop beer season and not one damn fresh-hop beer was on offer.  i was shopping this morning and there were two distributors stocking the beer aisle so i ask them if any was coming in, and they confirmed that my store is stocking fewer SKUs so no fresh-hopped beer was scheduled to be delivered.  luckily the beer buyer came along just as i was chatting with them, and put in a small order on my behalf.  97.3% that other local beer nerds are going to snatch it up before i make it back there.

(background: my local grocery store stocks an excellent assortment of beer, to the point that it generally isn't worth my time to drive 25-30 minutes to the closest bottle shop... at least, that was the case pre-panda).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 06, 2021, 01:59:59 pm
get your crowlers at Dominion wine and beer 20% off until Halloween

To our Loyal Customers: After almost a two year pandemic forced hiatus, our 12-tap retail store crowler station is back! We're thrilled to once again serve 12oz pours to customers (have a beer while you shop!) and offer a great rotating selection of drafts in crowlers to enjoy at home.

To celebrate, we're offering a 20% OFF promo code on crowlers from our retail store taps. Available to use via our web store. When shopping in-store just mention the promotion during checkout! Promo code: "Crowlers"

No limit, 20% OFF each crowler you buy!

 

Current tap list
D12 Firestone Walker Oaktoberfest
D11 Ocelot It's Just That Simple
D08 Vasen The Guava Otter
D10 Offshoot Escape [it's your everyday West Coast IPA]
D07 Heavy Seas The Great'er Pumpkin
D09 Mustang Sally Brewing Company Simpsons Did It
D06 Equilibrium Kinetics
D05 City-State Brewing 8 Wards Independent Pale Ale
D04 City-State Brewing Equal Marriage
D03 DSSOLVR Thank You for Existing
D02 Jester King Super Ultramega Hyperforce
D01 DSSOLVR Visions and Prisons

Personally have enjoyed the City-State brews I've had
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2021, 02:24:24 pm
Complete Snallygaster taplist. Hope it doesn't rain too much. I won't be pre-gaming.

https://untappd.com/v/snallygaster-2021/10893849
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 06, 2021, 03:10:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 06, 2021, 02:24:24 pm
Complete Snallygaster taplist. Hope it doesn't rain too much. I won't be pre-gaming.

https://untappd.com/v/snallygaster-2021/10893849

who the hell pregames before a beer fest??

solid list, and i didn't even make it to the end.  both Alesong offerings are recommended by yours truly, and i'd love to try a wild ale by Arizona Wilderness.  never heard of Uberon, but good name :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2021, 03:42:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 06, 2021, 03:10:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 06, 2021, 02:24:24 pm
Complete Snallygaster taplist. Hope it doesn't rain too much. I won't be pre-gaming.

https://untappd.com/v/snallygaster-2021/10893849

who the hell pregames before a beer fest??

solid list, and i didn't even make it to the end.  both Alesong offerings are recommended by yours truly, and i'd love to try a wild ale by Arizona Wilderness.  never heard of Uberon, but good name :)

I'll give it well above solid, but we'll see. Isn't Uberon the bourbon barrel aged wheat ale from Bells? Hard pass on that one, or anything from Bells.

Fidens, Floodland, Saint Adairus, Fox Farm, Homes, and Widowaker top the list of breweries I haven't had but am most looking forward to trying. There's probably aboout 25 others that are on my list as well though no doubt we won't try them all in just four hours (with VIP ticketholders having a two hour head start on the field.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2021, 03:44:01 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 01, 2021, 02:14:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 01, 2021, 08:37:07 am
When I was talking about "fruited sours", I was referring specifically to a beer like this one:

https://untappd.com/b/cushwa-brewing-company-western-maryland-vacation-packages/4504229 (https://untappd.com/b/cushwa-brewing-company-western-maryland-vacation-packages/4504229)

A mango coconut bread pudding sour

...which, by the way, is an awesome beer.

ah, gotcha.  yeah, those "milkshake sours"/"smoothie sours" have a bad rep. 

i haven't come across many of them that are particularly good.

Try some Mortalis beers. They'll change your mind.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 07, 2021, 01:31:21 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 06, 2021, 03:42:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 06, 2021, 03:10:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 06, 2021, 02:24:24 pm
Complete Snallygaster taplist. Hope it doesn't rain too much. I won't be pre-gaming.

https://untappd.com/v/snallygaster-2021/10893849 (https://untappd.com/v/snallygaster-2021/10893849)

who the hell pregames before a beer fest??

solid list, and i didn't even make it to the end.  both Alesong offerings are recommended by yours truly, and i'd love to try a wild ale by Arizona Wilderness.  never heard of Uberon, but good name :)

I'll give it well above solid, but we'll see. Isn't Uberon the bourbon barrel aged wheat ale from Bells? Hard pass on that one, or anything from Bells.

Fidens, Floodland, Saint Adairus, Fox Farm, Homes, and Widowaker top the list of breweries I haven't had but am most looking forward to trying. There's probably aboout 25 others that are on my list as well though no doubt we won't try them all in just four hours (with VIP ticketholders having a two hour head start on the field.)

first off, thank you for spelling "aboout" in Canadian.

second, if anyone needs help prioritizing what to taste:
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 07, 2021, 01:51:58 pm
Looks like Dominion got a drop yesterday that included Alesong (first time in VA) and Mortalis (second time in VA). I'll be shopping for the next few minutes. Not sure what's left.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 09, 2021, 09:13:41 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 07, 2021, 01:51:58 pm
Looks like Dominion got a drop yesterday that included Alesong (first time in VA) and Mortalis (second time in VA). I'll be shopping for the next few minutes. Not sure what's left.
Whoa, got the hydra ( blueberry, raspberry, grape) and its fucking delicious
Didn’t really feel like drinking beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 17, 2021, 07:23:47 pm
Broccoli never disappoints
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 22, 2021, 01:15:29 pm
works out to $19/bottle before shipping... i fear that proxy/packing/re-shipping fees will double this.

Brasserie Cantillon
Dear Friends

On Tuesday, October 26 at 5PM Brussels' time, we will be releasing our annual Fall pack, via our platform with Craftpeak!
The price of the pack is set at 98EUR, and the box will consist of six 75cl bottles:

• 3 x Fou'foune 2021 : A maceration of Lambic and organic apricot
• 1 x Lou Pepe Kriek 2018 : A maceration of Lambic and Schaerbeek cherries, 2020 harvest
• 1 x Racine : A maceration of Lambic, Sauvignon Blanc, Chardonnay and Tocai Friulano pomace from Radikon, 2020 harvest.
• 1 x Camerise : A maceration of Lambic and haskap berries, 2020 harvest

On Wednesday October 27 at 5PM Brussels' time, another sale will be held to benefit Vendanges Solidaires. The 2021 harvest was a catastrophe for many wine producers, and this organization exists to lend them a helping hand when tragedy strikes.
The Domaine André and Mireille Tissot and Cantillon are collaborating to support this cause by putting 150 bottles of La Vie est Belge 2019, rebaptised La Vie est Solidaire for the occasion, up for sale. The price per 75cl bottle will be €150; the entirety of the proceeds will be donated to Vendanges Solidaires.

The link for each sale will be communicated a few hours in advance.

Rules of the Autumn ’21 sales
• No shipping by Cantillon, no exceptions !
• Orders must be collected from the brewery by Januari 31st, 2022.
• Proof of purchase and a corresponding photo ID must be presented to collect your bottles.
• Proxies will be allowed to collect bottles so long as they are able to present proof of purchase AND a copy of a photo ID of the purchaser. Electronic copies are acceptable!
• Due to the extremely limited space we have in the brewery, we cannot extend the deadline to collect packs. If you cannot come to the brewery yourself, you must find a proxy or arrange for shipping with a service like Etre Gourmet SPRL / Het Huis van de Gueuze
. Please take this into consideration before purchasing a pack.
• The buyer will receive a confirmation email when their pack is collected, whether by them or their proxy.
• The limit for purchase is one pack PER INDIVIDUAL PERSON (not per email address or credit card!) - if you are found to have bought more than one pack, we reserve the right to cancel any supernumerary purchases.
• Keep in mind that the brewery is closed on Wednesdays and Sundays, as well as on all public holidays in Belgium. Pick-up WILL be allowed on Saturdays.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 24, 2021, 04:31:46 pm
Sounds like sweetie didn't read my previous posts on how to make this process not so expensive... and just for shits and giggles if you had to pay $38 for a bottle of Fou, is that a bad thing?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 27, 2021, 10:00:34 am
So who won the Cantillon lottery?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 27, 2021, 01:02:32 pm
Quote from: brennser on October 27, 2021, 10:00:34 am
So who won the Cantillon lottery?

not i.  by the time i got to the virtual waiting room my number in line was over 20,000.

Quote from: Yada on October 24, 2021, 04:31:46 pm
Sounds like sweetie didn't read my previous posts on how to make this process not so expensive... and just for shits and giggles if you had to pay $38 for a bottle of Fou, is that a bad thing?

no no, was going to to the etre gourmet proxy thing.  i'm fine paying $39 x 6 every now and then, but it does make me yearn for the times i paid a third of that at the brewery...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on October 28, 2021, 01:38:37 pm
Been to any good breweries lately Yada?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 29, 2021, 11:07:39 am
Quote from: brennser on October 28, 2021, 01:38:37 pm
Been to any good breweries lately Yada?

von Trapp Brewery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 29, 2021, 04:26:44 pm
How’s the rain up north?  Avoiding the mess by hitting up breweries in St Augustine.

Suspect it’ll be hit n miss but Old Coast is a solid start.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 04, 2021, 03:10:46 pm
apparently it's International Stout Day today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2021, 03:11:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 04, 2021, 03:10:46 pm
apparently it's International Stout Day today.
everyday is stout day in the Hatch-hold
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 04, 2021, 03:23:52 pm
Quote from: Luciferase-hatch ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2021, 03:11:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 04, 2021, 03:10:46 pm
apparently it's International Stout Day today.
everyday is stout day in the Hatch-hold

I'll tell you what, the best bang for your buck stout these days that tastes like a stout and not a grahahm cracker peanut butter swirl banana mouse dessert are the 12oz BA Ted Fidy cans. So good and availalbe basically anywhere.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 04, 2021, 03:28:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 04, 2021, 03:23:52 pm
Quote from: Luciferase-hatch ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2021, 03:11:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 04, 2021, 03:10:46 pm
apparently it's International Stout Day today.
everyday is stout day in the Hatch-hold

I'll tell you what, the best bang for your buck stout these days that tastes like a stout and not a grahahm cracker peanut butter swirl banana mouse dessert are the 12oz BA Ted Fidy cans. So good and availalbe basically anywhere.

I still have a couple of cans for a year or two ago so Im' good for now. But a search just now of Total Wine's site seems to say it's currently unavailable in VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2021, 03:30:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 04, 2021, 03:23:52 pm
and not a grahahm cracker peanut butter swirl banana mouse dessert
yeah, I as a rule have been avoiding these
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 04, 2021, 03:34:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 04, 2021, 03:28:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 04, 2021, 03:23:52 pm
Quote from: Luciferase-hatch ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2021, 03:11:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 04, 2021, 03:10:46 pm
apparently it's International Stout Day today.
everyday is stout day in the Hatch-hold

I'll tell you what, the best bang for your buck stout these days that tastes like a stout and not a grahahm cracker peanut butter swirl banana mouse dessert are the 12oz BA Ted Fidy cans. So good and availalbe basically anywhere.

I still have a couple of cans for a year or two ago so Im' good for now. But a search just now of Total Wine's site seems to say it's currently unavailable in VA.

I'm not talking about the 19oz large cans that you have to split four ways to enjoy... I think there are other places in VA to buy beer other than TW.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 04, 2021, 03:46:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 04, 2021, 03:34:25 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 04, 2021, 03:28:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 04, 2021, 03:23:52 pm
Quote from: Luciferase-hatch ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2021, 03:11:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 04, 2021, 03:10:46 pm
apparently it's International Stout Day today.
everyday is stout day in the Hatch-hold

I'll tell you what, the best bang for your buck stout these days that tastes like a stout and not a grahahm cracker peanut butter swirl banana mouse dessert are the 12oz BA Ted Fidy cans. So good and availalbe basically anywhere.

I still have a couple of cans for a year or two ago so Im' good for now. But a search just now of Total Wine's site seems to say it's currently unavailable in VA.

I'm not talking about the 19oz large cans that you have to split four ways to enjoy... I think there are other places in VA to buy beer other than TW.

I know what you're talking about.

Dominion appears to have no Oskar Blues. Their sister store Downtown Crown has BA Ten Fidy, but it's listed as "low stock."

Not seeing it on the garbage Craft Beer Cellar DC site either.

"Basically available everywhere" might be an overstatement! I haven't seen it anywhere in VA in a long time.



On the stout note, I did pick up some Hardywood Bourbon Barrel GBS yesterday, available for the first time in four packs. Not a fan of the base beer, but love what the barreling does with it.Kentucky Christmas Morning, which is bourbon+coffee_GBS will also be available for the first time in four packs. Probably won't be pairing it with the Indian food I'm making tonight though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 04, 2021, 03:47:20 pm
Quote from: Luciferase-hatch ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2021, 03:30:39 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 04, 2021, 03:23:52 pm
and not a grahahm cracker peanut butter swirl banana mouse dessert
yeah, I as a rule have been avoiding these

They're rarely a good Space value ratio beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 05, 2021, 10:07:05 pm
a replica of Moe’s, (https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/the-simpsons-moes-tavern-coming-to-springfield-town-center/article_9cfb6bbc-3dfa-11ec-a7d5-abbb7fcf7e7d.html)  from “The Simpsons,” is coming to the Springfield Town Center.

 It will look authentic with one big difference from the show: No Duff. Or any beer.

Wait, was all excited, and now angry
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 04:58:25 pm
in case you haven't heard yet:

Bell's Brewery to be sold to New Belgium Brewing's parent company as founder retires (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/2021/11/10/bells-brewery-sold-new-belgium-lion/6367856001/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2021, 05:10:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 04:58:25 pm
in case you haven't heard yet:

Bell's Brewery to be sold to New Belgium Brewing's parent company as founder retires (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/2021/11/10/bells-brewery-sold-new-belgium-lion/6367856001/)

I've drank one bottle of a Bell's beer during the pandemic...a Double Two Hearted...and it was absolutely terrible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 10, 2021, 05:15:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 10, 2021, 05:10:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 04:58:25 pm
in case you haven't heard yet:

Bell's Brewery to be sold to New Belgium Brewing's parent company as founder retires (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/2021/11/10/bells-brewery-sold-new-belgium-lion/6367856001/)

I've drank one bottle of a Bell's beer during the pandemic...a Double Two Hearted...and it was absolutely terrible.

I've drank zero New Belgium beers by choice in the past seven years and probably a handful of two hearted ales. This news means nothing!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2021, 05:19:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 10, 2021, 05:15:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 10, 2021, 05:10:21 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 04:58:25 pm
in case you haven't heard yet:

Bell's Brewery to be sold to New Belgium Brewing's parent company as founder retires (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/2021/11/10/bells-brewery-sold-new-belgium-lion/6367856001/)

I've drank one bottle of a Bell's beer during the pandemic...a Double Two Hearted...and it was absolutely terrible.

I've drank zero New Belgium beers by choice in the past seven years and probably a handful of two hearted ales. This news means nothing!

I'd still happily drink a La Folie or Le Teroir from New Belgium. Seems like New Belgium itself plays no role in the story, it's just easier to get readers if they mention New Belgium instead of Lion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 10, 2021, 05:44:38 pm
I’ll happily drink a bottle Two Hearted. Can’t comment on the double but the regular is fine.

Will likely visit New Belgium in Asheville on Friday. Won’t be the best beers of the trip but I understand the spot is top notch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 10, 2021, 06:21:19 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on November 10, 2021, 05:44:38 pm
I’ll happily drink a bottle Two Hearted. Can’t comment on the double but the regular is fine.

Will likely visit New Belgium in Asheville on Friday. Won’t be the best beers of the trip but I understand the spot is top notch.

I don't dislike Two Hearted (and actually had it somewhere recently, but I can't recall where), I just don't buy it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2021, 06:23:03 pm
The Asheville NB location is fabulous
They always have some interesting stuff
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 06:55:34 pm
i think the change in the craft brewing scene is fascinating.  nowadays we're all excited about small local craft breweries, and the bigger older boys (bell's, stone, lagunitas, goose island, etc) are of limited to no interest to us.  they're now being bought out.

roll the calendar back 15 years, and beer nerds were all excited about bell's, stone, lagunitas, goose island, etc... is this just a cycle?  will history repeat itself: in 15 year, will aslin buy out your favorite micro-mini-brewery (makes 2 to 3 kegs a year), long after the next generation of beer nerds have stopped caring about aslin?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 10, 2021, 07:07:40 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 06:55:34 pm
roll the calendar back 15 years, and beer nerds were all excited about bell's, stone, lagunitas, goose island, etc... is this just a cycle?  will history repeat itself: in 15 year, will aslin buy out your favorite micro-mini-brewery (makes 2 to 3 kegs a year), long after the next generation of beer nerds have stopped caring about aslin?
Yes. That this is surprising to you shocks me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 10, 2021, 07:22:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 06:55:34 pm
i think the change in the craft brewing scene is fascinating.  nowadays we're all excited about small local craft breweries, and the bigger older boys (bell's, stone, lagunitas, goose island, etc) are of limited to no interest to us.  they're now being bought out.

roll the calendar back 15 years, and beer nerds were all excited about bell's, stone, lagunitas, goose island, etc... is this just a cycle?  will history repeat itself: in 15 year, will aslin buy out your favorite micro-mini-brewery (makes 2 to 3 kegs a year), long after the next generation of beer nerds have stopped caring about aslin?

I don't know anyone that cares about aslin in present day tbh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2021, 07:23:31 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 06:55:34 pm
i think the change in the craft brewing scene is fascinating.  nowadays we're all excited about small local craft breweries, and the bigger older boys (bell's, stone, lagunitas, goose island, etc) are of limited to no interest to us.  they're now being bought out.

roll the calendar back 15 years, and beer nerds were all excited about bell's, stone, lagunitas, goose island, etc... is this just a cycle?  will history repeat itself: in 15 year, will aslin buy out your favorite micro-mini-brewery (makes 2 to 3 kegs a year), long after the next generation of beer nerds have stopped caring about aslin?

Who still drinks Aslin?

None of the breweries you mention have produced anything new and good in years. Have they? And some of them have abandoned stuff that made them good in the first place, or have been surpassed by others.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 07:44:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 10, 2021, 07:22:38 pm
I don't know anyone that cares about aslin in present day tbh.

fair enough.  reminder: i'm 5 years removed from the  DC/VA/MD beer scene, so i don't know who the new hotness is (and i feared the blowback of proposing sapwood...).  aslin was a stand-in for whatever small brewery is blowing up, locally.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on November 10, 2021, 07:56:38 pm
God beer snobbery… so ridiculous

I loved this brewery but now that others discovered it and it’s become popular “I don’t know anybody who drinks ____!”


Pitiful
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2021, 08:12:35 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 07:44:15 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 10, 2021, 07:22:38 pm
I don't know anyone that cares about aslin in present day tbh.

fair enough.  reminder: i'm 5 years removed from the  DC/VA/MD beer scene, so i don't know who the new hotness is (and i feared the blowback of proposing sapwood...).  aslin was a stand-in for whatever small brewery is blowing up, locally.

In the case of Aslin, it's not really snobbery. When they started, they made amazing hazies. They blew up and expanded and started a much larger location in Alexandria, and the quality of their beer just went way down. Sometimes you can't duplicate the quality of your beer on a larger scale. Add that to the fact that they don't put canning dates on any of their product that no longer sells out quickly, and you have no idea how fresh the beer is. Sad, really. I'd love for them to be the amazing brewery they once were, but they're just not.

They've also gotten into the lager game, but none that I've had were any better than decent.

*Note, their barrel aging program is supposed to be top notch, but I don't have 35 bucks to pay for a pint bottle of Barrel Aged peanut butter stout. I just don't like stouts that much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on November 10, 2021, 08:14:07 pm
Shoooore
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 10, 2021, 08:21:54 pm
I admittedly stopped trying to keep up with hype brews at this point almost three years ago (for a plethora of reasons, primarily my waistline). I think bottom line, there is just way too much good beer absolutely everywhere you go and no reason at all to buy below average beer…. Anywhere. Whether it’s the local hype train brewery that has gone to shit or a conglomerate that hasn’t put out a good beer in a decade, just too many good choices. I think the “big” breweries will always be around, but I can’t imagine the present day boom breweries (let’s say the last five years) ever getting to a point where they’re buying other nano breweries. I think more and more will just close.

A few random examples… In Vermont with a fellow forum legend a few weeks ago, a deli in Stowe had the following beers terding it up in a cooler: Heady Topper, Sip of Sunshine, multiple beers from Foam, Frost, Titled Barn, and at least another dozen house hold high end breweries. A mere five years ago in the same exact location, I was on a wild goose chase at 6am following a heady topper truck around town.

Additionally, two beer stores within one mile of my house in MoCo have Aslin, Other Half, Commonwealth, and any other brewery within a 40 mile radius that distributes in the area.

I’m not sure what the point of this story is, but long story short, just too much good beer!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 08:51:13 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 10, 2021, 07:23:31 pm
None of the breweries you mention have produced anything new and good in years. Have they? And some of them have abandoned stuff that made them good in the first place, or have been surpassed by others.

be honest: have you been keeping up with them?  following their releases?  if not, how can you say that they haven't produced anything good recently?  it would the equivalent of reviewing a band's show that you didn't attend...

have some good beers from that lot, but mostly when visiting the brewery and tasting their one-offs, in-house-only's, etc.  the stuff that sits on grocery shelves needs to have mass appeal, so isn't going to be their most creative stuff.  lagunitas distributed Mozango somewhat recently, i was in love with that beer...

but i agree that i'd rather have something fresh, crafted locally.  once you get into wide distribution, it's almost impossible to keep innovating.  you need to keep pumping out the same ol' thing which might have been interesting at one point, but we have the attention span of oysters so you move on while the big brewery keeps making the same ol' thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 10, 2021, 08:52:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 10, 2021, 08:21:54 pm
I think bottom line, there is just way too much good beer absolutely everywhere you go and no reason at all to buy below average beer…. Anywhere.

agreed.  that hasn't always been the case.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2021, 08:57:46 am
Quote from: Starsky on November 10, 2021, 07:56:38 pm
God beer snobbery… so ridiculous
I loved this brewery but now that others discovered it and it’s become popular “I don’t know anybody who drinks ____!”
Just replace brewery with band and drinks with listens
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 11, 2021, 01:44:30 pm
Quote from: eggs-hatch ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2021, 08:57:46 am
Quote from: Starsky on November 10, 2021, 07:56:38 pm
God beer snobbery… so ridiculous
I loved this brewery but now that others discovered it and it’s become popular “I don’t know anybody who drinks ____!”
Just replace brewery with band and drinks with listens
 
eggs-hatchly!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 12, 2021, 06:10:18 pm
i fear that Firestone Walker is too old for you hipsters here, but in case someone's snobbery - and budget - allows for it, you can now sign up for the 2022 season of the Brewmaster’s Collective, FW’s exclusive beer club.  open to residents of VA and DC (sorry MD...), shipping available.
https://www.firestonebeer.com/brewmasters-collective/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2021, 11:12:56 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 12, 2021, 06:10:18 pm
i fear that Firestone Walker is too old for you hipsters here, but in case someone's snobbery - and budget - allows for it, you can now sign up for the 2022 season of the Brewmaster’s Collective, FW’s exclusive beer club.  open to residents of VA and DC (sorry MD...), shipping available.
https://www.firestonebeer.com/brewmasters-collective/

I had a 12 oz bottle of Sucaba the other night. Probably wouldn't seek it out like I used to, but would grab a bottle once a year if i was one on the shelf. Maybe more due to growing tired of the style more so than the brewery.

True confession: we went to two Firestone locations while on vacation last summer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 13, 2021, 11:25:24 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 12, 2021, 06:10:18 pm
i fear that Firestone Walker is too old for you hipsters here, but in case someone's snobbery - and budget - allows for it, you can now sign up for the 2022 season of the Brewmaster’s Collective, FW’s exclusive beer club.  open to residents of VA and DC (sorry MD...), shipping available.
https://www.firestonebeer.com/brewmasters-collective/

LOL.

2022 Brewmaster's Collective Membership
$575.00

Think of all of the really good beer you could buy for that price.

But yeah... another brewery that hasn't been too exciting in 5+ years or more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 13, 2021, 01:12:12 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 12, 2021, 06:10:18 pm
i fear that Firestone Walker is too old for you hipsters here,
I know I'm not hip, I admit that.  But I often pick up union jack IPA when I see it and Nitro Merlin on a regular basis
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on November 13, 2021, 02:20:54 pm
What is hip?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 13, 2021, 02:25:47 pm
Quote from: Starsky on November 13, 2021, 02:20:54 pm
What is hip?

Seeing Krungabin when they played DC9.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on November 13, 2021, 02:28:51 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SN8pWdZhVaM
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 13, 2021, 02:48:38 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 13, 2021, 02:25:47 pm
Quote from: Starsky on November 13, 2021, 02:20:54 pm
What is hip?

Seeing Krungabin when they played DC9.

Can confirm

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1azG4wnLrF7DWkTr6
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 19, 2021, 05:25:59 pm
in case you need a source of entertainment tomorrow: FML FESTIVAL 2021 (https://oozlefinchbeers.com/new-page-3)

(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/258715011_6462886800419296_1312801780625721010_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_eui2=AeH-5ZkqQBupcxRuE4aD8f26M-K8ItLFiCcz4rwi0sWIJ5_QUA2YmNvXI9T_zwhR8LU&_nc_ohc=TR5q2dIHQpoAX8feENW&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=7f6679f9c76c96ef07095d6ade7e623b&oe=619CD96E)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 26, 2021, 01:13:12 pm
$80 all you can drink drafts at the sovereign!
https://linktr.ee/thesovereigndc

it is their nye promo
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 28, 2021, 07:42:17 pm
Quote from: himpathy-hatch ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 26, 2021, 01:13:12 pm
$80 all you can drink drafts at the sovereign!
https://linktr.ee/thesovereigndc

it is their nye promo

plot twist: on Dec 31, they take off all the 3F and de la Seine and swap in Leffe Blond and Heineken. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2021, 01:50:54 pm
Thanksgiving road trip beer report:

I had:

decent barrel aged barleywines from Revoltion at the Revolution brewpub in Chicago
fantastic barrels aged stouts from Half Acre and a fantastic saison from Keeping Together and some great fries at the Half Acre taproom in Chicago
BA stouT and milkshake IPA that were both pretty meh but food that was good at the Blockhead brewpub in Valpo, IN*
IPA's and food that were both fantastic at Hoof Hearted Kitchen in Columbus

*There was a bar/restaurant on South Bend that had Goose Island Bourbon County Fourteen Stout, the regular BCBS, and the Coke variant all on draft that i would have loved to have gone to, but my father in law, who was taking me to lunch, wasn't interested in driving that far.

I brought home  four packs from Half Acre, Hop Butcher, Hoof Hearted, Revolution,and Dovetail as well as a four pack of a fantastic new 15.1% BA stout from Three Floyds called Crushing Mass. Also snagged a bottle of saison from Keeping Together.

One thing i noted is there seem to be a lot less breweries making hazies, pastry stouts, and dessert sours in the Midwest than on the East Coast.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on November 29, 2021, 02:36:35 pm
Yes great but what did you listen to in the car?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2021, 05:44:15 pm
Quote from: Starsky on November 29, 2021, 02:36:35 pm
Yes great but what did you listen to in the car?

When I was driving and wife in passenger seat: some of my 2021 favorites, so i can start to form my best of list.

When wife was driving and daughter in passenger seat: Taylor Swift, Lana del Rey, Dua Lipa, and a handful of other female artists. (probably a slight majority of my music was female artist as well.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 14, 2021, 08:28:28 am
Incoming Mortalis drop at Dominion today. The other brewery looks really good too (average beer score of 4.24 compared to 4.34 for Mortalis.)

 Incoming Drops 
 Welcome to VA Baa Baa Brewhouse!
 Mortalis Brewing Company with the    !
 Arriving tomorrow, Tuesday 12/14 

From Baa Baa  : Lamb in a Jam: Blueberry, Cranberry, Plum, Pistachio & Fluff Heavily Fruited Berliner Weiss, Lamb in a Jam: Strawberry, Rhubard, Peach & Fluff Heavily Fruited Berliner Weiss, Rain Rain Go Away Heavily Fruited Sour Ale w/ Blueberry, Guava, Raspberry, White Chocolate & Fluff, I Wish I May Heavily Fruited Sour Ale with Starfruit, Papaya, Mango, Orange & Fluff, Red Sheep Hazy IPA, and Green Sheep Hazy IPA.


From Mortalis  : Hydra | Spill Fruited Sour w/ Passion Fruit, Mango, Marshmallow, and Lactose-Free Ice Cream. Collab w/ Urban South HTX. Plus 500ml bottles of Zuul (2021) Imperial Coffee Stout with Mostra Coffee Ghost Bear Coffee and Nyx | Coconut Imperial Stout w/ Coconut.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 19, 2021, 05:39:06 pm
https://boingboing.net/2021/12/14/gingerbread-dive-bar-kit-comes-complete-with-a-syrup-sticky-floor.html/amp
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on December 20, 2021, 02:55:04 pm
Pa rum pum pum pum!

(https://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/29281/292818305f27f3ddaa169a0be8dc161ecbd16f96.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 20, 2021, 03:32:19 pm
^ jelly.  nice haul.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on December 20, 2021, 04:09:16 pm
Ironically, we're enjoying this nice haul of jelly:


(https://www.bonnemaman.us/media/cache/catalog/product/a/d/cropped/1300x1300/advent-prod-v3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 20, 2021, 04:10:08 pm
Part of me is all about an advent calendar of jelly but part of my acknowledges I don't think I'm ready for that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 21, 2021, 04:29:25 pm
paging sweets....RUSH Beer
https://youtu.be/9GYB0GoKYOw
(https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2021/08/attachment-lifeson-lee.jpg?w=1200&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89)
this one is funny https://youtu.be/SadY0mP812A

(https://hendersonbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/IMG_4636-scaled.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2022, 11:49:26 am
Finally hit up NRG’s “new” establishment “Shelter” which is part of “Roost”, a culinary club house establishment on Cap Hill.

My friend that lives down there has been trying to get us to join him for brunch since it’s opened, but due to location and well… covid we haven’t made it. It’s an awesome place and essentially a Church Key on the other side of town. There was at least 10ish food options from multiple vendors and probably 50 beers on tap.

If this was in my back yard, I’d imagine being there multiple times a week. It’s sort of a union market style where everything is ordered via phone and it arrives at your table within minutes. Dumplings, pizza, and tacos were all delicious, the multiple beers were good with one crappy hazy by Equilibrium.

Would recommend!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 04, 2022, 11:59:00 am
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2022, 11:49:26 am
a culinary club house establishment on Cap Hill.
For some reason, I read this as "culinary country club" and my mind did burst with possibilities.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 04, 2022, 12:31:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2022, 11:49:26 am
Finally hit up NRG’s “new” establishment “Shelter”
this is an interesting distinction . What makes Shelter different from NRG's other beer bars is its focus on low-abv selections – up to 50% of Shelter's list clocks in below 5% abv.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 04, 2022, 12:51:12 pm
Quote from: Hopeful -hatch ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 04, 2022, 12:31:57 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 04, 2022, 11:49:26 am
Finally hit up NRG’s “new” establishment “Shelter”
this is an interesting distinction . What makes Shelter different from NRG's other beer bars is its focus on low-abv selections – up to 50% of Shelter's list clocks in below 5% abv.

I drank three pilsners, four IPAs, and one pastry stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 06, 2022, 02:35:45 pm
Went to Denmark - did a beer trade

(https://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/29298/29298043-holder-19719883645d4310c1c650a0a1acccd1.jpg) (https://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=29298043&showlnk=0)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 06, 2022, 03:05:39 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 06, 2022, 02:35:45 pm
Went to Denmark - did a beer trade

(https://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/29298/29298043-holder-19719883645d4310c1c650a0a1acccd1.jpg) (https://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=29298043&showlnk=0)

Did you you borrow Hutch's flip phone for that photo?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2022, 03:13:08 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 06, 2022, 02:35:45 pm
Went to Denmark - did a beer trade

(https://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/29298/29298043-holder-19719883645d4310c1c650a0a1acccd1.jpg) (https://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=29298043&showlnk=0)

have you tried Blabaer previously?  i know people get excited about it because it's only available in DK, but i've also heard it's kinda middling...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 06, 2022, 04:17:52 pm
yes, I've had the 14 and the 16 and liked both, with a slight edge to the 14
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 06, 2022, 04:18:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 06, 2022, 03:05:39 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 06, 2022, 02:35:45 pm
Went to Denmark - did a beer trade

(https://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/29298/29298043-holder-19719883645d4310c1c650a0a1acccd1.jpg) (https://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=29298043&showlnk=0)

Did you you borrow Hutch's flip phone for that photo?

I used my blackberry
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on January 06, 2022, 04:29:35 pm
Went to Copenhagen - had a beer share - came back to DC - figured out how to embed an image

(https://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/29298/292980719305e8003556a9d767758cbeb7ce3ae9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 06, 2022, 05:41:08 pm
Quote from: brennser on January 06, 2022, 04:29:35 pm
Went to Copenhagen - had a beer share - came back to DC - figured out how to embed an image
seems things are looking up for 2022 in the brennser house, I'd count that as a win
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 07, 2022, 07:14:29 pm
from one of my south fla favorites...nice ode to sade
(https://untappd.akamaized.net/photos/2020_05_15/a479c3844e6af9bd7f4051acb01c91f1_640x640.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 07, 2022, 09:05:21 pm
Quote from: Side-web of lies ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 07, 2022, 07:14:29 pm
from one of my south fla favorites...nice ode to sade


We went there not long after they opened. Really good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 08, 2022, 04:26:01 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 07, 2022, 09:05:21 pm
Quote from: Side-web of lies ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 07, 2022, 07:14:29 pm
from one of my south fla favorites...nice ode to sade

We went there not long after they opened. Really good stuff.

so you're saying you were into them before they got big? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 08, 2022, 11:04:57 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 08, 2022, 04:26:01 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 07, 2022, 09:05:21 pm
Quote from: Side-web of lies ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 07, 2022, 07:14:29 pm
from one of my south fla favorites...nice ode to sade

We went there not long after they opened. Really good stuff.

so you're saying you were into them before they got big?
yes, I have a vid at dc9 of them
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 08, 2022, 11:43:51 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 08, 2022, 04:26:01 am
Quote from: Space Freely on January 07, 2022, 09:05:21 pm
Quote from: Side-web of lies ® ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 07, 2022, 07:14:29 pm
from one of my south fla favorites...nice ode to sade

We went there not long after they opened. Really good stuff.

so you're saying you were into them before they got big?

Don't judge their popularity based on a few middle aged dorks writing about them on a message board. I dont think they've ever gotten big.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on January 08, 2022, 11:55:15 am
They signed my beer bottle
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 10, 2022, 05:17:47 pm
Picked up a four pack of "Gorgeous As" this weekend at Astro Lab... Collboration between Ocelot's "Gorgeous and Alone" and Asto Lab's "Fresh As."

Pretty, pretty good.

Edit: Ocelot continues to produce my favorite hoppy beers in the DMV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 10, 2022, 05:25:45 pm
Pretty, pretty good? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_05qJTeNNI)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 14, 2022, 03:33:28 pm
Unconfirmed $pace sighting at DTC this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 14, 2022, 03:40:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 14, 2022, 03:33:28 pm
Unconfirmed $pace sighting at DTC this afternoon.

What was he wearing and why did you pull a Space and not say hi?

Actually, it was not me, but I will be appearing at sister store Dominion to pick up an order, and possibly braving the weather and Omicron for some outdoor dining and imbibing tonight..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 14, 2022, 03:43:49 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 14, 2022, 03:40:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 14, 2022, 03:33:28 pm
Unconfirmed $pace sighting at DTC this afternoon.

What was he wearing and why did you pull a Space and not say hi?

Actually, it was not me, but I will be appearing at sister store Dominion to pick up an order, and possibly braving the weather and Omicron for some outdoor dining and imbibing tonight..

It would've been an awkard scenario of me chasing said potential space down just to even confirm if it was him or not...

Potential space was wearing a puffy black coat, cargo pants, but no glasses!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 14, 2022, 03:55:44 pm
Not a friend of Kosmo Vinyl
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 18, 2022, 10:47:16 pm
Burial drop at DTC

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY5LspKtNfZ/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 18, 2022, 11:07:00 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 18, 2022, 10:47:16 pm
Burial drop at DTC

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY5LspKtNfZ/?utm_medium=copy_link

Looks like orange juice
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 27, 2022, 05:27:07 pm
Some real Other Half bangers (hazy collabs with Monkish/Great Notion, Trillum/Lawson's, and Fidens/Vitamin Sea/Equilibrium), among other things just dropped at Downtown Crown, if anyone has any room in their fridge.

Downtown Crown also having a big Burial tap takeover tomorrow as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 06:33:42 pm
Isn't downtown crown like 1 hour drive from you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 27, 2022, 06:44:24 pm
But you save $7 per case.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 27, 2022, 07:32:26 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 06:33:42 pm
Isn't downtown crown like 1 hour drive from you?

35 mins, same as the DC OH brewery.

OH doesn't ship their (superior to DC) NY beers to VA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 02:12:27 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272797667_5010210982355345_3746939541323795701_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=EoZqHZGxDNwAX9QAvUG&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT_w-rzqFskPRQTOhRNP_hUq1gCDRHZ1p-FFjP8MTobMLg&oe=61FC8A67)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2022, 02:26:06 pm
^ that seems cool.  would attend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 27, 2022, 07:32:26 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 06:33:42 pm
Isn't downtown crown like 1 hour drive from you?

35 mins, same as the DC OH brewery.

OH doesn't ship their (superior to DC) NY beers to VA.

This is one of the best $pace takes as of late, that the beer coming from NYC is better than any of other half's othe offerings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 03:50:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 27, 2022, 07:32:26 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 06:33:42 pm
Isn't downtown crown like 1 hour drive from you?

35 mins, same as the DC OH brewery.

OH doesn't ship their (superior to DC) NY beers to VA.

This is one of the best $pace takes as of late, that the beer coming from NYC is better than any of other half's othe offerings.

Are you agreeing, or being facetious? I can never 100% tell with you.  ;) I can't really take the credit for the take. I think Brennser has said it here first. And multiple people  have said it on Beer Advocate, including people from both NYC and DC.

BTW, I made it to Downtown Crown to pick up my beer yesterday. I had this stout my Burial. One of the best pastry stouts I've ever had. Super tasty, but not super sweet. 14% but didn't taste like it (but did feel like it.)

https://untappd.com/b/burial-beer-co-the-abominable-damnation-of-creatures-nevertold/4647958


Also, I tried the first of the three different Other Half anniversary beers I picked up. Best OH DIPA I've had in a while. I usually am a citra  and usually don't go for the New Zealand hops so much, but this one rocks harder than Split Enz.

https://untappd.com/b/other-half-brewing-co-boudin-and-cracklin-8th-anniversary-edition/4682685
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 03:51:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2022, 02:26:06 pm
^ that seems cool.  would attend.

But then you'd have to drink their mediocre, all high abv, overpriced beer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 03:53:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 03:50:11 pm
14% but didn't taste like it
label says 13%, makes me wonder what else you are lying about ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2022, 03:56:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 03:50:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 27, 2022, 07:32:26 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 06:33:42 pm
Isn't downtown crown like 1 hour drive from you?

35 mins, same as the DC OH brewery.

OH doesn't ship their (superior to DC) NY beers to VA.

This is one of the best $pace takes as of late, that the beer coming from NYC is better than any of other half's othe offerings.

Are you agreeing, or being facetious? I can never 100% tell with you.  ;) I can't really take the credit for the take. I think Brennser has said it here first. And multiple people  have said it on Beer Advocate, including people from both NYC and DC.

BTW, I made it to Downtown Crown to pick up my beer yesterday. I had this stout my Burial. One of the best pastry stouts I've ever had. Super tasty, but not super sweet. 14% but didn't taste like it (but did feel like it.)

https://untappd.com/b/burial-beer-co-the-abominable-damnation-of-creatures-nevertold/4647958


Also, I tried the first of the three different Other Half anniversary beers I picked up. Best OH DIPA I've had in a while. I usually am a citra  and usually don't go for the New Zealand hops so much, but this one rocks harder than Split Enz.

https://untappd.com/b/other-half-brewing-co-boudin-and-cracklin-8th-anniversary-edition/4682685

We do know that brennser's palate is very delicate, however, I don't agree... There's 20 frothy gravy IPAs on draft at all times at the DC location and I'd gaurantee you or breenser couldn't tell the difference if they were coming from BK or DC... kind of similar to that lossless vs. 320kps argument.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 04:28:35 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 03:53:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 03:50:11 pm
14% but didn't taste like it
label says 13%, makes me wonder what else you are lying about ;)

It says 14% of untappd and DigitalPour, I haven't seen any labels.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 04:38:49 pm
[quothttps://untappd.akamaized.net/site/beer_logos_hd/beer-4647958_13131_hd.jpege author=Space Freely link=topic=19630.msg530805#msg530805 date=1643660915]
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 03:53:28 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 03:50:11 pm
14% but didn't taste like it
label says 13%, makes me wonder what else you are lying about ;)

It says 14% of untappd and DigitalPour, I haven't seen any labels.
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(https://untappd.akamaized.net/site/beer_logos_hd/beer-4647958_13131_hd.jpeg)
lies, all lies
what are we to believe
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 04:53:01 pm
Their website says 14%.

https://burialbeer.com/beer/the-abominable-damnation-of-creatures-nevertold/

The other two Burial imperial stouts DTC had on draft also said 14 (one was a barleywine/stout blend.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2022, 06:07:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 03:51:39 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on January 31, 2022, 02:26:06 pm
^ that seems cool.  would attend.

But then you'd have to drink their mediocre, all high abv, overpriced beer!

true dat... i believe i've only ever tasted two of their beers, and this was 5+ years ago.  they were indeed high ABV, i don't remember the price, but i do remember liking them.  depending on the lineup, i'd be willing to chance it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 11:45:33 am
An Oskar Blues tap takeover wouldn't normally excite me, but looks like they're sending some big guns to Downtown Crown Friday. I know at least one boardie is a big fan of BBA Ten Fidy.

 Six beers on tap including...
-Double Dale's Imperial IPA
-Western Mutant West Coast IPA
-Double Barrel-Aged Ten FIDY (Bourbon & Brandy)
-Double Barrel Ten FIDY (Port & Bourbon)
-Barrel Aged Three Wisemen Ten FIDY
-Double Barrel Ten FIDY (Four Roses & Appleton)
👀 Flights, full pours, and crowlers available on all!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 02, 2022, 11:50:40 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 11:45:33 am
An Oskar Blues tap takeover wouldn't normally excite me, but looks like they're sending some big guns to Downtown Crown Friday. I know at least one boardie is a big fan of BBA Ten Fidy.

 Six beers on tap including...
-Double Dale's Imperial IPA
-Western Mutant West Coast IPA
-Double Barrel-Aged Ten FIDY (Bourbon & Brandy)
-Double Barrel Ten FIDY (Port & Bourbon)
-Barrel Aged Three Wisemen Ten FIDY
-Double Barrel Ten FIDY (Four Roses & Appleton)
👀 Flights, full pours, and crowlers available on all!

I am... but not typically driving up 270 and getting bombed. Maybe I'll consider a vial pour.

I did just place an order for a few four packs, so maybe that will be a good pick up time!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 11:54:33 am
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 11:50:40 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 11:45:33 am
An Oskar Blues tap takeover wouldn't normally excite me, but looks like they're sending some big guns to Downtown Crown Friday. I know at least one boardie is a big fan of BBA Ten Fidy.

 Six beers on tap including...
-Double Dale's Imperial IPA
-Western Mutant West Coast IPA
-Double Barrel-Aged Ten FIDY (Bourbon & Brandy)
-Double Barrel Ten FIDY (Port & Bourbon)
-Barrel Aged Three Wisemen Ten FIDY
-Double Barrel Ten FIDY (Four Roses & Appleton)
👀 Flights, full pours, and crowlers available on all!

I am... but not typically driving up 270 and getting bombed. Maybe I'll consider a vial pour.

I did just place an order for a few four packs, so maybe that will be a good pick up time!

I was going to add that though I was saying I was "excited", that doesn't mean I'm planning on going. I probably won't be (unless there's something I *have* to buy and pickup.)

The stouts will likely last until Sunday. The Burlal stouts did. They now serve the high abv stouts in 4 oz and 8 oz pours only (no more 16 oz pours of 14% beers.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 02, 2022, 12:02:35 pm
The old seasonal standbys are in at DTC as well-  Nugget Nectar and Hopslam.  FWIW...Cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 04:19:33 pm
Has anybody checked out Juicy Brewing?  Initial reviews are good. https://untappd.com/JuicyBrewingCo It's in the same location as the original Aslin (good luck at not pissing off the neighbots like Aslin did.) So another beer plave 35 mins from my house.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 04:31:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 04:19:33 pm
Has anybody checked out Juicy Brewing?  Initial reviews are good. https://untappd.com/JuicyBrewingCo It's in the same location as the original Aslin (good luck at not pissing off the neighbots like Aslin did.) So another beer plave 35 mins from my house.
looks really new, just posted this 30 mins ago

Juicy Brewing Co
Good news!
Starting this week (Feb 4th and 5th) everyone is welcome and can come into our hazy territory!
Taproom open to public for drinks and limited to go options.
Open hours (ongoing):
Friday 12 to 8pm
Saturday 12 to 8pm
Limited quantity of to go crowlers will be prefilled and available each day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:47:00 pm
Serious question, do new or potential new breweries excite you at this point? I mean, we are at absolute peak beer in terms of where we live and what we have access to. There's at least a minimum of probably 10 above average breweries to support within a 30 mile radius of DC, maybe more? Plus shipments of essentially anything you want... Just curious as the option of another haze brewery gets me about as excited as going to Panera Bread in the Wheaton Mall.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 04:53:04 pm
ouch...
I still like going and supporting new breweries in the area (or anywhere I travel to)

If the beer is mediocre, that will be my last visit
I'm not as super critical as you guys though

Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:47:00 pm
There's at least a minimum of probably 10 above average breweries to support within a 30 mile radius of DC, maybe more?
care to list your top 10
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:57:49 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 04:53:04 pm
ouch...
I still like going and supporting new breweries in the area (or anywhere I travel to)

If the beer is mediocre, that will be my last visit
I'm not as super critical as you guys though

Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:47:00 pm
There's at least a minimum of probably 10 above average breweries to support within a 30 mile radius of DC, maybe more?
care to list your top 10

These are not in order or even top ten, but all ones I'd happily go to and drink their beer. I will say out of this list though, I'd probably only buy from four/five of them to drink at my house.

1. Other Half
2. Bluejacket
3. Aslin
4. Ocelot
5. Elder Pine
6. Astro Lab
7. Wheatland
8. Lone Oak
9. Waredaca
10. Right Proper
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 05:01:25 pm
nice, both Elder Pine and Wheatland are on my to-visit list  (Sapwood too)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:02:20 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 05:01:25 pm
nice, both Elder Pine and Wheatland are on my to-visit list  (Sapwood too)

A fellow forumer has tempted me with a bike ride to Elder Pine, but it seems a bit out of my comfort zone in terms of possibly getting smushed by a car en route.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 05:06:30 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:02:20 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 05:01:25 pm
nice, both Elder Pine and Wheatland are on my to-visit list  (Sapwood too)

A fellow forumer has tempted me with a bike ride to Elder Pine, but it seems a bit out of my comfort zone in terms of possibly getting smushed by a car en route.
yeah, quick glance on Google maps looks like it's not an easy or safe ride
unless there are ways to do it through that park it's on
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:10:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:47:00 pm
Serious question, do new or potential new breweries excite you at this point? I mean, we are at absolute peak beer in terms of where we live and what we have access to. There's at least a minimum of probably 10 above average breweries to support within a 30 mile radius of DC, maybe more? Plus shipments of essentially anything you want... Just curious as the option of another haze brewery gets me about as excited as going to Panera Bread in the Wheaton Mall.

I pretty much agree with your list, can't think of any that would definitely replace any of those 10. I'd but four or five for home, too. Probably the same four or five as you.

The closest of those to my house is Aslin (Alexandria), at 15 minutes away. There's a Panera less than five minutes away. If a really good hazy place opened up less than five minutes from my house, I'd be more excited than having Panera nearby.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:13:43 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:02:20 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 05:01:25 pm
nice, both Elder Pine and Wheatland are on my to-visit list  (Sapwood too)

A fellow forumer has tempted me with a bike ride to Elder Pine, but it seems a bit out of my comfort zone in terms of possibly getting smushed by a car en route.

I've seen bikes out on that route, but i wouldn't do it. Rachel Carson Park is next door is a really nice place to do a family and dog friendly hike...though Elder Pine sort of discourages kids.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:15:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:10:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:47:00 pm
Serious question, do new or potential new breweries excite you at this point? I mean, we are at absolute peak beer in terms of where we live and what we have access to. There's at least a minimum of probably 10 above average breweries to support within a 30 mile radius of DC, maybe more? Plus shipments of essentially anything you want... Just curious as the option of another haze brewery gets me about as excited as going to Panera Bread in the Wheaton Mall.

I pretty much agree with your list, can't think of any that would definitely replace any of those 10. I'd but four or five for home, too. Probably the same four or five as you.

The closest of those to my house is Aslin (Alexandria), at 15 minutes away. There's a Panera less than five minutes away. If a really good hazy place opened up less than five minutes from my house, I'd be more excited than having Panera nearby.

Shit, already forgot one which would be Silver Branch and in my top five!! Remove Waredaca from the list or Right Proper!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:24:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:15:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:10:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:47:00 pm
Serious question, do new or potential new breweries excite you at this point? I mean, we are at absolute peak beer in terms of where we live and what we have access to. There's at least a minimum of probably 10 above average breweries to support within a 30 mile radius of DC, maybe more? Plus shipments of essentially anything you want... Just curious as the option of another haze brewery gets me about as excited as going to Panera Bread in the Wheaton Mall.

I pretty much agree with your list, can't think of any that would definitely replace any of those 10. I'd but four or five for home, too. Probably the same four or five as you.

The closest of those to my house is Aslin (Alexandria), at 15 minutes away. There's a Panera less than five minutes away. If a really good hazy place opened up less than five minutes from my house, I'd be more excited than having Panera nearby.

Shit, already forgot one which would be Silver Branch and in my top five!! Remove Waredaca from the list or Right Proper!

Google Maps says Wheatland Spring is 49.7 miles from DC, so you might have to replace that one. I only go there on the way back from hiking at Harper's Ferry. I love that place, but wouldn't drive all the way there solely to drink (though there are some good wineries to pair it with nearby.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 05:24:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:15:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:10:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:47:00 pm
Serious question, do new or potential new breweries excite you at this point? I mean, we are at absolute peak beer in terms of where we live and what we have access to. There's at least a minimum of probably 10 above average breweries to support within a 30 mile radius of DC, maybe more? Plus shipments of essentially anything you want... Just curious as the option of another haze brewery gets me about as excited as going to Panera Bread in the Wheaton Mall.

I pretty much agree with your list, can't think of any that would definitely replace any of those 10. I'd but four or five for home, too. Probably the same four or five as you.

The closest of those to my house is Aslin (Alexandria), at 15 minutes away. There's a Panera less than five minutes away. If a really good hazy place opened up less than five minutes from my house, I'd be more excited than having Panera nearby.

Shit, already forgot one which would be Silver Branch and in my top five!! Remove Waredaca from the list or Right Proper!
funny, I almost said 'no silver branch' but held back
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:27:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:24:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:15:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:10:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:47:00 pm
Serious question, do new or potential new breweries excite you at this point? I mean, we are at absolute peak beer in terms of where we live and what we have access to. There's at least a minimum of probably 10 above average breweries to support within a 30 mile radius of DC, maybe more? Plus shipments of essentially anything you want... Just curious as the option of another haze brewery gets me about as excited as going to Panera Bread in the Wheaton Mall.

I pretty much agree with your list, can't think of any that would definitely replace any of those 10. I'd but four or five for home, too. Probably the same four or five as you.

The closest of those to my house is Aslin (Alexandria), at 15 minutes away. There's a Panera less than five minutes away. If a really good hazy place opened up less than five minutes from my house, I'd be more excited than having Panera nearby.

Shit, already forgot one which would be Silver Branch and in my top five!! Remove Waredaca from the list or Right Proper!

Google Maps says Wheatland Spring is 49.7 miles from DC, so you might have to replace that one. I only go there on the way back from hiking at Harper's Ferry. I love that place, but wouldn't drive all the way there solely to drink (though there are some good wineries to pair it with nearby.)

The radius is not the defining factor in all of this, more of a generalization that there's a ton of good beer around whether is 1.4 miles from your home or 50 miles. I for one won't travel to Reston/Herndon to pick up four packs of haze out of a garage no matter how good it is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:36:16 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:27:09 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:24:45 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 05:15:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 02, 2022, 05:10:53 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:47:00 pm
Serious question, do new or potential new breweries excite you at this point? I mean, we are at absolute peak beer in terms of where we live and what we have access to. There's at least a minimum of probably 10 above average breweries to support within a 30 mile radius of DC, maybe more? Plus shipments of essentially anything you want... Just curious as the option of another haze brewery gets me about as excited as going to Panera Bread in the Wheaton Mall.

I pretty much agree with your list, can't think of any that would definitely replace any of those 10. I'd but four or five for home, too. Probably the same four or five as you.

The closest of those to my house is Aslin (Alexandria), at 15 minutes away. There's a Panera less than five minutes away. If a really good hazy place opened up less than five minutes from my house, I'd be more excited than having Panera nearby.

Shit, already forgot one which would be Silver Branch and in my top five!! Remove Waredaca from the list or Right Proper!

Google Maps says Wheatland Spring is 49.7 miles from DC, so you might have to replace that one. I only go there on the way back from hiking at Harper's Ferry. I love that place, but wouldn't drive all the way there solely to drink (though there are some good wineries to pair it with nearby.)

The radius is not the defining factor in all of this, more of a generalization that there's a ton of good beer around whether is 1.4 miles from your home or 50 miles. I for one won't travel to Reston/Herndon to pick up four packs of haze out of a garage no matter how good it is.

Given the inconsistency of Aslin, I'm about 25 minutes from the closest good hazy four pack (Dominion Wine and Beer in Falls Church.)

Also, Sapwood and Black Flag ar under 30 miles, they'd definitely go on my list (though i'd never go there unless i were going to a Merriweather show.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 03, 2022, 12:35:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:57:49 pm

8. Lone Oak


I don't care how expansive their field is, the beer sucks. Worse then Brookeville.

No love for Saints Row from anyone?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 03, 2022, 12:49:56 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 03, 2022, 12:35:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:57:49 pm

8. Lone Oak


I don't care how expansive their field is, the beer sucks. Worse then Brookeville.

No love for Saints Row from anyone?

Lone Oak would be the first one I'd knock off, replaced of course by Sapwood.

Had not heard of Saints Row. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 03, 2022, 01:02:21 pm
Quote from: StoneTheCrow on February 03, 2022, 12:35:58 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 02, 2022, 04:57:49 pm

8. Lone Oak


I don't care how expansive their field is, the beer sucks. Worse then Brookeville.

No love for Saints Row from anyone?

I don't agree that it's completely awful, however, I'd never buy it for my home.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 08, 2022, 04:10:48 pm
Ended up picking up my beer at DTC on the day of the Oscar Blues tap take over... Packed house. I had two four oz pours of the BA ted fidy variant... Both were fine, but I still prefer the original.

The Sim Cat from Ocelot is delicious as well as the Schilling Beer Co/Other Half pilsner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 10, 2022, 11:17:47 am
Another farm brewery in MoCo opening this weekend... Appears to have a Whealand-esque vibe, can only hope the beer is as good.

https://www.landmadebeer.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 11:40:13 am
Quote from: Yada on February 10, 2022, 11:17:47 am
Another farm brewery in MoCo opening this weekend... Appears to have a Whealand-esque vibe, can only hope the beer is as good.

https://www.landmadebeer.com

Wow, nice! Hopefully in the Wheatland/Elder Pine vibe and beer quality, and above the beer quality of every other farm brewery within a 30 mile radius (Manor Hill is actually a nice stop with decent beer too, imo.)

I'm planning on enjoying the nice weather my combining two of my favorite activities, hiking and taproom attending, Friday and Saturday. I'll have to see if this one can be worked into the game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 10, 2022, 11:43:27 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 11:40:13 am
Quote from: Yada on February 10, 2022, 11:17:47 am
Another farm brewery in MoCo opening this weekend... Appears to have a Whealand-esque vibe, can only hope the beer is as good.

https://www.landmadebeer.com

Wow, nice! Hopefully in the Wheatland/Elder Pine vibe and beer quality, and above the beer quality of every other farm brewery within a 30 mile radius (Manor Hill is actually a nice stop with decent beer too, imo.)

I'm planning on enjoying the nice weather my combining two of my favorite activities, hiking and taproom attending, Friday and Saturday. I'll have to see if this one can be worked into the game.

Report back with your findings Space!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:21:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 10, 2022, 11:43:27 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 11:40:13 am
Quote from: Yada on February 10, 2022, 11:17:47 am
Another farm brewery in MoCo opening this weekend... Appears to have a Whealand-esque vibe, can only hope the beer is as good.

https://www.landmadebeer.com

Wow, nice! Hopefully in the Wheatland/Elder Pine vibe and beer quality, and above the beer quality of every other farm brewery within a 30 mile radius (Manor Hill is actually a nice stop with decent beer too, imo.)

I'm planning on enjoying the nice weather my combining two of my favorite activities, hiking and taproom attending, Friday and Saturday. I'll have to see if this one can be worked into the game.

Report back with your findings Space!

Will do!

i was planning on going out to Harper's Ferry for hiking and hitting Wheatland and Juicy (first time) on the way home. It looks like for the same amount of driving, I could trade out those two and insert Landmade on opening day. Not sure I want to do that though! The other alternative was hiking out toward Walkie, and stopping at Pen Druid (and possibly Juicy, since I'd be halfway there anyway.)

Saturday was planning on taking the whole gang to Rachel Carson, and next door to Elder Pine. Unfortunately, Landmade would add too much extra drive time (and not sure of Landmade's dog or teen kid policies....maybe they themselves aren't sure at this point.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 10, 2022, 12:29:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:21:21 pm
The other alternative was hiking out toward Walkie, and stopping at Pen Druid
Actually was out in Sperryville on Saturday and stopped by PD for some drinks
new location is nice, but no indoor or real bathrooms (yet I hope)
Nice view of the mountains (old rag I think?)
They also only had one sour on tap. Spontaneous Vidal it was good, but nothing to write home about
lady said that it's going to be a few more months before their traditional line up is ready as they age for a while in combination with the move to the new place

The rest were more traditional styles of beer.  I think I had an amber that was tasty but can't recall now
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:34:44 pm
Quote from: Gazpachatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 10, 2022, 12:29:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:21:21 pm
The other alternative was hiking out toward Walkie, and stopping at Pen Druid
Actually was out in Sperryville on Saturday and stopped by PD for some drinks
new location is nice, but no indoor or real bathrooms (yet I hope)
Nice view of the mountains (old rag I think?)
They also only had one sour on tap. Spontaneous Vidal it was good, but nothing to write home about
lady said that it's going to be a few more months before their traditional line up is ready as they age for a while in combination with the move to the new place

The rest were more traditional styles of beer.  I think I had an amber that was tasty but can't recall now

Thanks for this post. That's a big help. I agree about the Spontaneous Vidal. Just ok, imo. Their traditiional beers are fine, but I may shuffle the Spring hiking schedule so that VA hikes wait until they have more sours ready. They're the reason to go to PD.

Looks like I could also hit Landmade in combo with a hike at Sugarloaf, but my gang hates that hike.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on February 10, 2022, 01:19:46 pm
I do, have a nice . . . hiking stick.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 10, 2022, 01:42:44 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:21:21 pm
Saturday was planning on taking the whole gang to Rachel Carson, and next door to Elder Pine. Unfortunately, Landmade would add too much extra drive time (and not sure of Landmade's dog or teen kid policies....maybe they themselves aren't sure at this point.)

Wait. You have a dog?!? Talk about burying the lede!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 01:56:47 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on February 10, 2022, 01:42:44 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:21:21 pm
Saturday was planning on taking the whole gang to Rachel Carson, and next door to Elder Pine. Unfortunately, Landmade would add too much extra drive time (and not sure of Landmade's dog or teen kid policies....maybe they themselves aren't sure at this point.)

Wait. You have a dog?!? Talk about burying the lede!

I've talked about him on here before. Most recently with Yada, whose dog is ailing. :( Our's just turned 13.5 on Monday. At his age, halfs count. He's a medium labradoodle. I won't be taking him on any uphill hikes (never did, really), but he's still up for a few miles on flat ground. He also likes to hang out at breweries too. Moreso than my teen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 10, 2022, 01:58:30 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on February 10, 2022, 01:42:44 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:21:21 pm
Saturday was planning on taking the whole gang to Rachel Carson, and next door to Elder Pine. Unfortunately, Landmade would add too much extra drive time (and not sure of Landmade's dog or teen kid policies....maybe they themselves aren't sure at this point.)

Wait. You have a dog?!? Talk about burying the lede!
that's a known quantity as far as I can remember
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 10, 2022, 02:02:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:34:44 pm


Looks like I could also hit Landmade in combo with a hike at Sugarloaf, but my gang hates that hike.

Love the blue trail hike from the west parking lot at Sugarloaf.  Although, recently they shut down the road to the east and west lots because of icy conditions-should be open now...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 10, 2022, 02:29:14 pm
Quote from: Gazpachatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 10, 2022, 01:58:30 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on February 10, 2022, 01:42:44 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:21:21 pm
Saturday was planning on taking the whole gang to Rachel Carson, and next door to Elder Pine. Unfortunately, Landmade would add too much extra drive time (and not sure of Landmade's dog or teen kid policies....maybe they themselves aren't sure at this point.)

Wait. You have a dog?!? Talk about burying the lede!
that's a known quantity as far as I can remember

Well when you have a memory like mine, everything is a discovery!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 02:36:21 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 10, 2022, 02:02:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:34:44 pm


Looks like I could also hit Landmade in combo with a hike at Sugarloaf, but my gang hates that hike.

Love the blue trail hike from the west parking lot at Sugarloaf.  Although, recently they shut down the road to the east and west lots because of icy conditions-should be open now...

I don't think my family will ever forgive me for getting them lost on that trail and hiking several extra boring, unnecessary miles years ago. So getting them to go back there, when we have several other family favorite hikes...probably not happening, lol.

Would I appear to be too much of an alcoholic if I stopped at Landmade *before* my hike (they open at 11!) and hit Wheatland and Juicy on the way home? Small pours of lower abv beers, of course. It's possible I could be Landmade's first customer, how exciting!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 10, 2022, 02:38:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 02:36:21 pm
Would I appear to be too much of an alcoholic if ...
asks in a thread about beer and drinking....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 02:42:17 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on February 10, 2022, 02:29:14 pm
Quote from: Gazpachatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 10, 2022, 01:58:30 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on February 10, 2022, 01:42:44 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 10, 2022, 12:21:21 pm
Saturday was planning on taking the whole gang to Rachel Carson, and next door to Elder Pine. Unfortunately, Landmade would add too much extra drive time (and not sure of Landmade's dog or teen kid policies....maybe they themselves aren't sure at this point.)

Wait. You have a dog?!? Talk about burying the lede!
that's a known quantity as far as I can remember

Well when you have a memory like mine, everything is a discovery!

Once you've met him, he's kind of hard to forget.

https://ibb.co/HtkWTQT
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 10, 2022, 03:01:07 pm
Still trying to help space post the actual pic vs. a link...

(https://i.ibb.co/1rwDGxG/PXL-20220112-014156110.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 10, 2022, 03:24:42 pm
FYI i have met him, his name is Theo, and he is in fact a very, very good boy.

Quote from: Space Freely on January 01, 1970, 12:34:05 am
Our's just turned 13.5 on Monday. At his age, halfs count. He's a medium labradoodle. I won't be taking him on any uphill hikes (never did, really), but he's still up for a few miles on flat ground.

i took my now 10-year-old puppers on my annual trek up the big mountain, and it was likely her last time.  she barely made it up, and i doubt she'll be able to make the climb again next year... so i'll be going it solo.  not sure which is worse, me getting old or watching my ball of furry trouble get old.

do we need a doggo thread??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 10, 2022, 03:29:00 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 10, 2022, 03:24:42 pm
FYI i have met him, his name is Theo, and he is in fact a very, very good boy.

Quote from: Space Freely on January 01, 1970, 12:34:05 am
Our's just turned 13.5 on Monday. At his age, halfs count. He's a medium labradoodle. I won't be taking him on any uphill hikes (never did, really), but he's still up for a few miles on flat ground.

i took my now 10-year-old puppers on my annual trek up the big mountain, and it was likely her last time.  she barely made it up, and i doubt she'll be able to make the climb again next year... so i'll be going it solo.  not sure which is worse, me getting old or watching my ball of furry trouble get old.

do we need a doggo thread??

Not sure I could handle a doggo thread at this point... I've never been more sad/depressed/and bitter in my life regarding the status of my pup. Gawt damn. Nearly put him down over the weekend, but he bounced back... FUck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 10, 2022, 03:53:18 pm
big furry hugs to you, yadders.  like i said, dunno which is worse...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 10, 2022, 03:57:59 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 10, 2022, 03:53:18 pm
big furry hugs to you, yadders.  like i said, dunno which is worse...

thanks man... undoubtedly been some of the hardest times of my life.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2022, 01:28:55 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ2FzG3ubdF/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2022, 01:55:32 pm
mmm, tell me how the Ewing, Czech Dark Lager tastes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 13, 2022, 03:39:09 pm
Quote from: Gazpachatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2022, 01:55:32 pm
mmm, tell me how the Ewing, Czech Dark Lager tastes

It was decent, not as good as the Wheatland Spring and Elder Pine version of that beer style.

What was really good was the flagship Italian Pilsner, Lilly. May have even beer better than the Italian pilsner I had a Wheatland (which is clocking in at 4.35 on untappd.)

Those were the only two I had. It was too early to check out the food truck.

Place was nice enough, didn't blow me away and I wouldn't drive an hour rt to go only there, but if i were in the general area it would be a must stop on a nice day. Lacking a certain ambiance that Wheatland has, but a pleasant stop. Annoying that they didn't have draft or can prices listed anywhere....but the prices were fair enough, cheaper than Wheatland (the Italian pils was $17/four pack, it's $21 at Wheatland.

I also stopped at Juicy. I only had a half pour of the DIPA. Didn't blow me away like Aslin did when they were in that spot, but in fairness i had only half of one beer. Not nearly as good as the Other Half, Equilibrium, and Burial I have in the fridge. The servers were all wearing newboy caps. I'd like to try more of their beers, but only if i were over in that direction for other reasons.

Yesterday after Rachel Carson and Elder Pine, we stopped at Saints Row in Rockville. Sorry, nice folks and you want to root for the little guys, but have to give them the thumbs down beerwise.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 14, 2022, 11:12:17 pm
Modern times is closing half it’s locations
https://newschoolbeer.com/home/2022/2/modern-times-beer-closing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 14, 2022, 11:33:04 pm
Quote from: bleisurehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 14, 2022, 11:12:17 pm
Modern times is closing half it’s locations
https://newschoolbeer.com/home/2022/2/modern-times-beer-closing
Just imagine the outcome of both their longevity and the quality of their product had they just named themselves “The Julian Era”.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 15, 2022, 08:36:46 am
Quote from: bleisurehatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 14, 2022, 11:12:17 pm
Modern times is closing half it’s locations
https://newschoolbeer.com/home/2022/2/modern-times-beer-closing

That's too bad. I love their combination of beer and vegan eats. I've been to the Portland location (closing), and the Encinitas location (staying open.) We also tried to go to the Santa Barbara location (closing)...but it was closed because they couldn't get enough workers to come in that day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 15, 2022, 09:27:57 am
Moral of the story is the beer bubble is bursting and don't expand just to expand. Focus on your local market.

I expect as the gubment $$$ that was boosted into the economy runs out, we'll see more to come in 2022/2023.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on February 15, 2022, 02:06:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 31, 2022, 03:56:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 03:50:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 27, 2022, 07:32:26 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 06:33:42 pm
Isn't downtown crown like 1 hour drive from you?

35 mins, same as the DC OH brewery.

OH doesn't ship their (superior to DC) NY beers to VA.

This is one of the best $pace takes as of late, that the beer coming from NYC is better than any of other half's othe offerings.

Are you agreeing, or being facetious? I can never 100% tell with you.  ;) I can't really take the credit for the take. I think Brennser has said it here first. And multiple people  have said it on Beer Advocate, including people from both NYC and DC.

BTW, I made it to Downtown Crown to pick up my beer yesterday. I had this stout my Burial. One of the best pastry stouts I've ever had. Super tasty, but not super sweet. 14% but didn't taste like it (but did feel like it.)

https://untappd.com/b/burial-beer-co-the-abominable-damnation-of-creatures-nevertold/4647958


Also, I tried the first of the three different Other Half anniversary beers I picked up. Best OH DIPA I've had in a while. I usually am a citra  and usually don't go for the New Zealand hops so much, but this one rocks harder than Split Enz.

https://untappd.com/b/other-half-brewing-co-boudin-and-cracklin-8th-anniversary-edition/4682685

We do know that brennser's palate is very delicate, however, I don't agree... There's 20 frothy gravy IPAs on draft at all times at the DC location and I'd gaurantee you or breenser couldn't tell the difference if they were coming from BK or DC... kind of similar to that lossless vs. 320kps argument.

yes I could
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 15, 2022, 02:15:43 pm
Quote from: brennser on February 15, 2022, 02:06:12 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 31, 2022, 03:56:48 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 03:50:11 pm
Quote from: Yada on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on January 27, 2022, 07:32:26 pm
Quote from: slightly different Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 06:33:42 pm
Isn't downtown crown like 1 hour drive from you?

35 mins, same as the DC OH brewery.

OH doesn't ship their (superior to DC) NY beers to VA.

This is one of the best $pace takes as of late, that the beer coming from NYC is better than any of other half's othe offerings.

Are you agreeing, or being facetious? I can never 100% tell with you.  ;) I can't really take the credit for the take. I think Brennser has said it here first. And multiple people  have said it on Beer Advocate, including people from both NYC and DC.

BTW, I made it to Downtown Crown to pick up my beer yesterday. I had this stout my Burial. One of the best pastry stouts I've ever had. Super tasty, but not super sweet. 14% but didn't taste like it (but did feel like it.)

https://untappd.com/b/burial-beer-co-the-abominable-damnation-of-creatures-nevertold/4647958


Also, I tried the first of the three different Other Half anniversary beers I picked up. Best OH DIPA I've had in a while. I usually am a citra  and usually don't go for the New Zealand hops so much, but this one rocks harder than Split Enz.

https://untappd.com/b/other-half-brewing-co-boudin-and-cracklin-8th-anniversary-edition/4682685

We do know that brennser's palate is very delicate, however, I don't agree... There's 20 frothy gravy IPAs on draft at all times at the DC location and I'd gaurantee you or breenser couldn't tell the difference if they were coming from BK or DC... kind of similar to that lossless vs. 320kps argument.

yes I could

"the nose of this hazyyyy is really giving off a Brooklyn feel"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on February 15, 2022, 04:01:43 pm
I got some nice beers for the Superbowl, then only drank two of them.  I went to a beer store to buy them; it was, easy.

Hopslam   (tastes like a great beer, but I can't believe it wasn't that long ago when this shit was hero worshipped)

Aslin   Volcano Sauce   (looking forward to trying this thing)

Three Floyds   The 50 Million Dollar Man   (Always loved their beers and I really just bought it because the cover was pretty.)

Lagunitas   Unrefined Shugga     (This was garbage, momma)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 16, 2022, 01:42:23 pm
So, I was sitting at an empty bar at Rustico in Alexandria on Saturday afternoon and in walks Greg Engert to do a quality control check.  Starstruck!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 16, 2022, 01:57:54 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 16, 2022, 01:42:23 pm
So, I was sitting at an empty bar at Rustico in Alexandria on Saturday afternoon and in walks Greg Engert to do a quality control check.  Starstruck!

Was he in civil war regalia?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 16, 2022, 01:59:48 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 16, 2022, 01:42:23 pm
So, I was sitting at an empty bar at Rustico in Alexandria on Saturday afternoon and in walks Greg Engert to do a quality control check.  Starstruck!
was he dressed like a Napoleonic era water boy ;)

I see yada and I were thinking the same thing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on February 16, 2022, 02:22:26 pm
Ha! Nah. Just looked like a regular dude,
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 16, 2022, 02:31:37 pm
Quote from: Bagley on February 16, 2022, 02:22:26 pm
Ha! Nah. Just looked like a regular dude,

With about 35 pounds of COVID girth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2022, 03:58:34 pm
Brooklyn Other Half drop at DTC for space's sensitive hazy taste buds.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 17, 2022, 04:15:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2022, 03:58:34 pm
Brooklyn Other Half drop at DTC for space's sensitive hazy taste buds.

I'm sure the BKOH lineup is great this week, but this one is the beer to grab at DTC this week (came in yesterday). Picked up a four pack at Dominion last week. Fantastic beer. Rocking a 4.47 on untappd.

Equilibrium Brewery Ghost in The Laboratory DIPA (Parish Brewing Company collab)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 17, 2022, 04:27:52 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2022, 04:15:20 pm
Quote from: Yada on February 17, 2022, 03:58:34 pm
Brooklyn Other Half drop at DTC for space's sensitive hazy taste buds.

I'm sure the BKOH lineup is great this week, but this one is the beer to grab at DTC this week (came in yesterday). Picked up a four pack at Dominion last week. Fantastic beer. Rocking a 4.47 on untappd.

Equilibrium Brewery Ghost in The Laboratory DIPA (Parish Brewing Company collab)

Oh nice!! Don't think I'll be getting it, but have always loved the Parish OG version.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 26, 2022, 04:42:41 pm
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homeopathic+beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on February 27, 2022, 09:36:24 am
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/394/940/10940394.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2022, 01:43:16 pm
^ the label reads "fuck putin".

heroes.  all of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 28, 2022, 02:12:58 pm
https://www.pravda.beer/en/shop/putin-huilo/?fbclid=IwAR1LoMyYE-0rsfC0oVSs0FQya7ShtTGocyF4YnFYjBcdKiAVIjS2aMxcW3c

I heard the hops are better at their brewery in the other part of Ukraine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 02, 2022, 12:06:24 pm
Picked up some more fresh Ocelot cans from DTC yesterday... Man I love their hops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2022, 10:08:39 am
(https://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/29402/294026722c42f53018ce0a254ff87c440ecef2f3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2022, 01:45:28 pm
legend down:

Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen

It is with a heavy heart and great sadness that we announce the passing of Armand.

The inspirer of 3 Fonteinen and an inspiration for many, a gentle teacher to his team, Opa Geuze to the brewery kids, and as a second father to some of us.

Beginning of 2019, Armand was diagnosed with cancer. The impact of the treatment has continuously asked a lot of physical energy and while being surrounded with the best possible care, Armand’s body never really recovered. Last night, he has left us.
Words fall short to describe what Armand has meant to the people he crossed paths with, from close friends, over the local community, to brewers and blenders all around the beer world, and not in the least for beer aficionados. He was and will always be respected, appreciated, and loved by a vast number of people.
 
We will always remember Armand as the extraordinary person he was; open and sociable, generous, epicurean, always ready to sit down, and take time to lose sight of time while sharing stories and passions.

Armand, you will leave an immense gap in our lives. We will never forget how your warm and charismatic personality and passionate enthusiasm has ignited us to continue your life’s work. We are forever grateful for the chances that you have given us. We will carry our task of leading 3 Fonteinen into the next generations with pride, humbleness, and dignity, as you have always done. You will always remain our greatest inspiration. You are 3 Fonteinen and 3 Fonteinen will be forever you(rs).

It was an honour and a privilege to have had you so close to us. Godspeed to you, you mighty Armand!

When you are reading this, open a good bottle, raise your glass to Armand rejoice Life. Armand wouldn’t have wanted it any other way.
- Michaël & Werner & Team 3 Fonteinen

https://www.facebook.com/Brouwerij3Fonteinen/posts/7696489833709486 (https://www.facebook.com/Brouwerij3Fonteinen/posts/7696489833709486)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 07, 2022, 08:29:32 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca0pfNPJTts/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 08, 2022, 04:15:20 pm
Church Key to reopen in the near future.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on March 09, 2022, 09:11:53 pm
Per, Pen Druid:

YEASTER : : : : : APRIL 16th 2022
MANY ROASTED LAMBS
CIDER RELEASE
BEAUTIFUL WEATHER
SAVE THIS DATE

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 10, 2022, 03:06:57 pm
Quote from: Walk,on,by on March 09, 2022, 09:11:53 pm
Per, Pen Druid:

YEASTER : : : : : APRIL 16th 2022
MANY ROASTED LAMBS
CIDER RELEASE
BEAUTIFUL WEATHER
SAVE THIS DATE

Yeah, but still probably no wild ales.

I hiked White Oak Canyon from the bottom up on Monday. Pen Druid was closed. I instead went to Front Royal Brewing/Vibrissa for the first time, after my hike. Pretty old school and standard in their beers. Their IPA's are even West Coast IPA's. I think I read that their brewer was originally with Ocelot. The lager I had was ok, the pretzel kind of sucked. Not a bad stop, but I don't think I would return. 275th brewery visited.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on March 10, 2022, 03:14:00 pm
Never been a fan of Front Royal brewing and I absolutely hate their new name. But Main Street Front Royal is pretty cute compared to what it used to be, which was run down and barely any stores open.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on March 16, 2022, 09:15:50 am
Whalez imminent

https://mocoshow.com/blog/kensington-babycat-brewery-hopes-to-open-by-the-end-of-the-year/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 16, 2022, 09:17:35 am
sounds like a brewery that Walkie would support
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 16, 2022, 09:31:16 am
Quote from: Yada on March 16, 2022, 09:15:50 am
Whalez imminent

https://mocoshow.com/blog/kensington-babycat-brewery-hopes-to-open-by-the-end-of-the-year/

What about it says whalez?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 16, 2022, 10:04:41 am
Did I read about this here, or somewhere else?

Union 10th Anniversary Celebration
Union Craft Brewing
   June 11, 2022 6:00 PM
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Doors Open: 6:00 PM
 More Information
That's right, friends, UNION is 10 YEARS OLD and we are GLOWING with excitement to announce that our annual celebration is back! Come one, come all to throw down once again for one-night-only to help us mark this milestone.
This year, we're doing it up in NEON! Neon has the atomic number 10 and lends itself to the kind of visual stimulation that we love to party with. Get your neon brew crew ready to eat, drink, and dance the night away.
This year, we've invited two very special guests to help you do just that.
All the way from Nigeria, West Africa, we are thrilled to welcome Femi Kuti with Made Kuti & The Positive Force band. The son and grandson of Afrobeat legend, Fela Kuti, Femi and his son, Made carry the torch of this music and will be sure to make you shake it to their hot grooves and positive message.
Fred Armisen has made us laugh more times than we can count. From his work on SNL, to his send-up of Hipsterdom in Portlandia, to his IFC mockumentary series, Documentary Now - we are big Fred-heads! Fred is coming down to the brewery to DJ for us on the mainstage and create a dance party that you will not soon forget.
Of course, there will be beer. So. Much. Beer.
Classics, Sours, Lagers, Barrel-Aged beers from our Workshop by UNION series, new collabs and other special Anniversary beers will all be pouring-a-plenty.Food, beer lists, and other surprises and additions will be announced in the following months.
Get your ticket and SAVE THAT DATE!
10 YEARS! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? LET'S GLOW.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2022, 12:28:30 pm
Has anybody heard a reopening date for Churchkey?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2022, 01:16:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2022, 12:28:30 pm
Has anybody heard a reopening date for Churchkey?
nope, but you can have beer delivered to your home from them https://www.nrgprovisions.com/churchkeybeershopdcva
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2022, 02:45:58 pm
Quote from: aburrida-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2022, 01:16:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2022, 12:28:30 pm
Has anybody heard a reopening date for Churchkey?
nope, but you can have beer delivered to your home from them https://www.nrgprovisions.com/churchkeybeershopdcva

Thanks. I think I am out of their delivery range. I thnk Yada said they would be reopening soon, but don't remember where he posted.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2022, 03:40:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 17, 2022, 02:45:58 pm
Thanks. I think I am out of their delivery range.
(https://i.imgur.com/7sKyLN1.jpeg)
not sure where you live, but I think it's pretty darn close
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2022, 04:08:11 pm
Definitely out of range...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2022, 08:37:59 pm
IMO New Belgium puts on a great beer fest
(https://festivals.hopculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/HC-QB-graphics-Header.png)
Join Hop Culture on Friday, June 3rd and Saturday, June 4th, 2022, at The Wharf in Washington, D.C., to celebrate the voice of the Queer community in craft beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2022, 01:31:45 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/276195686_363554629110338_5910871783078033703_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=0juqoOJi0kgAX-mBSmF&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT_gjNupwHJLHDgfbJVLmkxy5uJAdXFhO69tE7Bx7jH0eg&oe=6239A692)
Insurrection AleWorks

ONIP Ukrainian Anti-Imperial Stout cans will be available today. The new labels have arrived and we relabeled all of the former Bocctahne RIS cans. We will be donating $2.00 from every 4 pk sold to Ukrainian Humanitarian Relief.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2022, 04:25:06 pm
UKRAINIAN GOLDEN ALE DOESN’T NEED YOUR APPROVAL (https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/2022/3/17/ukrainian-golden-ale)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 24, 2022, 04:01:35 pm
Aslin’s landing in the District!
Our new digs are coming together and we can’t wait to see you in our new taproom and beer garden!
This new space will be equipped with an R&D Brewing Facility, a cafe serving @aslincoffee
AND we dig our friends @bund_up so much we’ll have them slinging all of their tasty offerings at this location.
COMING MAY 2022

(https://scontent.fphl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/277308033_2367297266743015_5384623767665830567_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=YAYCWu44A6EAX__-As_&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_A9ChgyWOUgkFLudZu2bctEroZbKINNLcJ7AJBYm-NVg&oe=62428F77)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 24, 2022, 04:30:04 pm
Aslin is also landing in Pentagon City.

https://pentagonrow.com/?unit=nighthawk-pizza

And Pittsburgh

https://nextpittsburgh.com/latest-news/pittsburghs-a-top-10-beer-drinking-town-aslin-beer-coming-to-the-strip-and-more-boozy-news/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 24, 2022, 04:42:35 pm
I convinced my wife to take last Friday off and go hking with me. Little Devil's Stairs in Rappahannock County.

Afterwards, we stopped at a winery. View was nice, wine was mediocre. Hey Walky, what at the best wineries in RC?

Then we did a slight detour and stopped at Juicy Brewing, in the original Aslin location. My second time, her first. They seem to be getting a bunch of 4.5 untappd ratings for their smoothie sours, but the smoothie sours were sold out (again.) I had a half pour of the schwarzbier (good), she had a half pour of the 6% hazy (excellent.) The IPA was so good (the best single IPA hazy I've had locally in a long time), she made me pay $14 for a crowler of it. WE're splitting it with dinner tonight. Then we stopped at Whole Foods, where they had old favorite Parabola (small pour, and MBC Lunch for her) on draft.

Saturday night, the whole family went into DC to check out the Roost. I had an Other Half pilsner, she had an OH DIPA, then I had a 4 oz pour of an OH pastry. Fun place, though it was hard to hear table conversation due to the loud group of black women and children sitting adjacent to us, and someone's dog which kept howling at a nearby table. My daughter said she prefers the Union Market vibe over this place....which I'm cool with because, you can go to Other Half first, and bring your own cans to UM.

And now I have to figure out how to lose the five pounds I've gained in the last month. More hiking, less drinking I guess.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on March 24, 2022, 05:47:54 pm
Little Devil Stairs is the bomb!!

For wineries in Rapp county

Quièvremont Winery

Chester Gap Vineyard

Rappahannock Cellars

The best is in southern Warren County,  which is Glenn Manor.

Cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 24, 2022, 09:09:39 pm
Quote from: Walk,on,by on March 24, 2022, 05:47:54 pm
Little Devil Stairs is the bomb!!

For wineries in Rapp county

Quièvremont Winery

Chester Gap Vineyard

Rappahannock Cellars

The best is in southern Warren County,  which is Glenn Manor.

Cheers!

Thanks! Quievremont is the one we went to.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on March 24, 2022, 10:10:51 pm
Weird.  I've heard nothing, but good reviews about the winery you went to.  Oh well.  I normally don't go to wineries, for I usually don't like anyone that, is there.

But it's better than breweries nowadays; motherfuckers having kid's birthday parties there, with all the dogs you wanna punch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2022, 07:10:35 am
That nighthawk pizza looks great and very close to me
https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/03/24/a-massive-brewpub-and-pizza-garden-with-90s-vibes-opens-in-arlington/

https://www.nighthawkpizza.com/menus/drinks

I’m especially glad they have a dark mild on tap, can’t wait to go. Grand opening was last night
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 25, 2022, 07:24:35 am
Quote from: Walk,on,by on March 24, 2022, 10:10:51 pm
Weird.  I've heard nothing, but good reviews about the winery you went to.  Oh well.  I normally don't go to wineries, for I usually don't like anyone that, is there.

But it's better than breweries nowadays; motherfuckers having kid's birthday parties there, with all the dogs you wanna punch.

Now you're going to make me feel bad for criticizing them. The setting was lovely, the woman pouring the wine was super nice. Maybe the wine just wasn't our style. My wife noted that the wine taste "young." I think we prefer our reds to be more tannic and with more age. Cabernet Sauvignon is our favorite, and their reds were too delicate and mild in comparison.

Given that it was 2pm on a Friday, no surprise that many of the patrons were octagenarians. Interesting that they prefererred to all sit inside clumped together unmasked on a beautiful 73 degree day, whereas all the younger people were sitting outside, spread out, on the patio.

No kids seen at Juicy at 4:30 on a Friday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 25, 2022, 08:00:33 am
Quote from: Jackassery-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2022, 07:10:35 am
That nighthawk pizza looks great and very close to me
https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/03/24/a-massive-brewpub-and-pizza-garden-with-90s-vibes-opens-in-arlington/

https://www.nighthawkpizza.com/menus/drinks

I’m especially glad they have a dark mild on tap, can’t wait to go. Grand opening was last night

So the beer is by Aslin, but the food is by someone else completely?

On a side note, anybody have as opinion on the food at the Aslin Alexandria location?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2022, 10:05:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 25, 2022, 08:00:33 am
On a side note, anybody have as opinion on the food at the Aslin Alexandria location?
the vending machine at Alexandria Carpet One Floor & Home is off the hook!

the good and bad of breweries in industrial park settings
in the past they had food trucks on the regular, maybe that will start again
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 25, 2022, 10:30:17 am
Quote from: Jackassery-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2022, 10:05:08 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 25, 2022, 08:00:33 am
On a side note, anybody have as opinion on the food at the Aslin Alexandria location?
the vending machine at Alexandria Carpet One Floor & Home is off the hook!

the good and bad of breweries in industrial park settings
in the past they had food trucks on the regular, maybe that will start again

No, they actually appear to have an in house kichen there.
Confession: We were thinking of going there for a long Friday lunch today. Haven't been to Aslin since pre-pandemic.

https://www.aslinbeer.com/_files/ugd/db95ba_49514e4392744b3da393d985a1b75815.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2022, 01:59:02 pm
Oh yeah, forgot about that.  I think I got the Brussel sprouts once

I still thought my vending machine comment is spot on though
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2022, 08:42:38 am
Quote from: Walk,on,by on March 24, 2022, 10:10:51 pm

But it's better than breweries nowadays; motherfuckers having kid's birthday parties there, with all the dogs you wanna punch.
It’s gotten so bad that Hardywood down in Richmond made a big deal announcing they’re gonna have a “21 and over only area”
At a bar!?!?

https://www.facebook.com/146711868721673/posts/5093648850694592/?d=n

We are excited for warmer weather and plenty of patio time in the days ahead. Hardywood always welcomes families of all kinds to enjoy our facilities, but we know some folks enjoy space away from kids as well, so we’ve created a 21+ area at our West Creek location. This new fenced spot is a great place to enjoy a beer, something delicious from a food truck, and relax!

Nice, gonna fence in ‘the olds’
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 27, 2022, 10:28:38 am
Hardywood’s West Creek location is every bit as much a food truck location/music venue as it is a brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2022, 11:17:51 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 27, 2022, 10:28:38 am
Hardywood’s West Creek location is every bit as much a food truck location/music venue as it is a brewery.

Are you in favour of a 21+ zone?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 27, 2022, 11:27:26 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 27, 2022, 11:17:51 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 27, 2022, 10:28:38 am
Hardywood’s West Creek location is every bit as much a food truck location/music venue as it is a brewery.

Are you in favour of a 21+ zone?
I have no strong feel as I’d never drive out to that side of town to go to Hardywood unless they had an insane concert. It’s like forty minutes from me.

Sure, 21+ section. Why not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on March 27, 2022, 01:30:33 pm
What are some reasonably good cheap beers for pounding back?

Tecate served me well but I need something different
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2022, 02:52:06 pm
Quote from: Starsky on March 27, 2022, 01:30:33 pm
What are some reasonably good cheap beers for pounding back?

Tecate served me well but I need something different

Anything from Sierra Nevada
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on March 27, 2022, 02:53:30 pm
Really? I don’t consider their flagship beer a pounder

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2022, 03:54:48 pm
Quote from: Starsky on March 27, 2022, 02:53:30 pm
Really? I don’t consider their flagship beer a pounder

Its 5.6 abv. Tecate is 4.5. Seems pretty close. But I'm a lover not a pounder so im not the best to ax.

I'm also currently drinking a 10.5 abv beer. Slowly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on March 27, 2022, 03:58:35 pm
Gives me the farts after three….
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on March 27, 2022, 06:16:55 pm
God, I want to make a, 'pounder' comment so bad . . . that it hurts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on March 29, 2022, 06:17:08 pm
two beer related items-
 
1-Enjoyed the offerings at Landmade in Poolesville last Saturday-both beer and food-great farm fresh veggies

2-Pleasantly surprised to see the Three Floyds - Zombie Dust at the anthem last Friday!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 29, 2022, 06:18:47 pm
Quote from: Bagley on March 29, 2022, 06:17:08 pm
two beer related items-
 
1-Enjoyed the offerings at Landmade in Poolesville last Saturday-both beer and food-great farm fresh veggies

2-Pleasantly surprised to see the Three Floyds - Zombie Dust at the anthem last Friday!

11,000
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2022, 09:17:10 am
Three Floyds Cocomungo. 15.6% BA Coconut Stout. Holy cow, what an awesome beer. I had an 8 ounce pour yesterday. I will I had picked up more than one four pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2022, 06:20:46 pm
Third visit to Juicy Brewing today. Very impressed with everything I've had from them.

They're also looking for a head brewer, in case anybody is looking.

https://www.salary.com/job/juicy-brewing-co/head-brewer/j202203231818012710899
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 02, 2022, 07:46:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 02, 2022, 06:20:46 pm
Third visit to Juicy Brewing today. Very impressed with everything I've had from them.

They're also looking for a head brewer, in case anybody is looking.

https://www.salary.com/job/juicy-brewing-co/head-brewer/j202203231818012710899
Whats their MarComm budget? I still need a brewery in my influencer portfolio.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2022, 10:09:25 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 02, 2022, 07:46:40 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 02, 2022, 06:20:46 pm
Third visit to Juicy Brewing today. Very impressed with everything I've had from them.

They're also looking for a head brewer, in case anybody is looking.

https://www.salary.com/job/juicy-brewing-co/head-brewer/j202203231818012710899
Whats their MarComm budget? I still need a brewery in my influencer portfolio.

A few months ago, Aslin was looking for a Director of Marketing. My wife decided not to apply because they weren't paying enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on April 03, 2022, 12:18:33 am
Pacifico
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2022, 09:38:09 am
Kinda for jules, but I guess GGW is in there too

Mushroom Mania - Moon Market April 16 at Stone Brewing Richmond
https://www.facebook.com/events/328871985841251
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 05, 2022, 09:48:45 am
Quote from: Side key bump ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2022, 09:38:09 am
Kinda for jules, but I guess GGW is in there too

Mushroom Mania - Moon Market April 16 at Stone Brewing Richmond
https://www.facebook.com/events/328871985841251
This feels like the thing I'd go to wanting to just buy some quality creminis or shitakes or something for cooking and I'd turn up hating everyone there because 50% of them are peddling mushrooms as vaccine alternatives.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2022, 09:57:06 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 05, 2022, 09:48:45 am
Quote from: Side key bump ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2022, 09:38:09 am
Kinda for jules, but I guess GGW is in there too

Mushroom Mania - Moon Market April 16 at Stone Brewing Richmond
https://www.facebook.com/events/328871985841251
This feels like the thing I'd go to wanting to just buy some quality creminis or shitakes or something for cooking and I'd turn up hating everyone there because 50% of them are peddling mushrooms as vaccine alternatives.
timing would be good for some fresh Morels too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2022, 02:51:46 pm
new release from Insurrection Ale works (brewery in the Pittsburgh suburbs)
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2022, 02:15:32 pm
for those that observe...Happy National Beer day!
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 07, 2022, 02:52:02 pm
And tomorrow is national empanada day. It seems like they could have coordinated these things a little better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2022, 02:52:56 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on April 07, 2022, 02:52:02 pm
And tomorrow is national empanada day. It seems like they could have coordinated these things a little better.
when I lived in adams morgan...Julia's empanada's was often the go to food at 1 AM, so that might work
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on April 07, 2022, 07:07:58 pm
Everywhere you go now, there is a killer empanada place.  There are three places in my rural area, alone.

Thanks for the heads-up . . . I'll make sure to stay away from either of them tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on April 07, 2022, 07:14:21 pm
Back to tecate
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2022, 10:49:14 am
My wife makes great empanadas. But they're a lot of work. So I probably won't request them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 08, 2022, 10:56:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 08, 2022, 10:49:14 am
My wife makes great empanadas. But they're a lot of work. So I probably won't request them.

So we hear.

Quote from: James Ford on August 19, 2011, 09:34:20 am
My wife and daughter make better empanadas than you can get out of a stinking food truck.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2022, 11:09:59 am
Quote from: Off-season Santa on April 08, 2022, 10:56:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 08, 2022, 10:49:14 am
My wife makes great empanadas. But they're a lot of work. So I probably won't request them.

So we hear.

Quote from: James Ford on August 19, 2011, 09:34:20 am
My wife and daughter make better empanadas than you can get out of a stinking food truck.

Can not confirm, will need a sample to verify this statement
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 08, 2022, 11:10:50 am
I understand that hutch makes his own too. I think there needs to be a competition.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2022, 11:12:36 am
the official 9:30 homemade empanada swap!  I'm game

I think Hutch used premade 'wrappers'  wonder if Ms Space makes the dough from scratch??
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 08, 2022, 11:22:53 am
We should throw in entries from Julia's and El Patio in a blind taste test!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2022, 11:31:33 am
I'm noticing a lot of silence from said parties...methinks their empanadas really aren't as good as they said they are
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2022, 11:40:09 am
Quote from: Side key bump ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2022, 11:31:33 am
I'm noticing a lot of silence from said parties...methinks their empanadas really aren't as good as they said they are

My wife's dough is from scratch.

I suggest combining it with a bottle/can share. Sorry if this sounds entitled, but no Tecate allowed, lol
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2022, 11:41:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on April 08, 2022, 11:40:09 am
Sorry if this sounds entitled, but no Tecate allowed, lol
it really does though...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 08, 2022, 12:17:02 pm
Happy to bring along some AstroLab.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on April 09, 2022, 11:38:18 am
Quote from: Off-season Santa on April 08, 2022, 11:10:50 am
I understand that hutch makes his own too. I think there needs to be a competition.

My empanadas …. I don’t know….

Now my mom makes some fantastic ones!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on April 09, 2022, 11:41:46 am
As far as beer with empanadas Quilmes has to be #1 although in Argentina people tend to drink red wine with empanadas
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 25, 2022, 12:49:50 pm
DC brau is making this now
Not really sure what the Hopheiser brewing co is? Guess they just contract with dc brau to brew and can?

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 25, 2022, 01:04:14 pm
more info
https://www.brewbound.com/news/old-time-lager-launches-in-washington-d-c/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 25, 2022, 01:53:33 pm
That would probably work well with empanadas.

Also: This Saturday Churckey will have Monkish cans on sale, first time ever in the DMV. As well as a number of Monkish draft selections.

They did the same with Fiden's last week. I didn't get any cans, but had a couple of their hazies on draft over two pre-concert visits Thurs and Sat. They were both fantastic. The less fantastic of the two still blew away the best Trillium hazy that was on draft for the special Trillium night they had going.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 25, 2022, 03:59:22 pm
Copied from someone's post on Beer Advocate


https://dc.eater.com/2022/4/22/23035552/aslin-beer-company-dc-location-logan-circle-coffee-shop-coming-soon

Logan Circle’s newest beer garden is almost here. Aslin Beer Company just announced an opening date for the Northern Virginia brewery’s highly-anticipated foray into D.C.

Get ready for the new Aslin beer garden to kick open its doors to the public on Monday, May 16 at 1740 14th Street NW. The brewery known for its psychedelic can designs and playful spirit will serve 21 Aslin draft beers. The plan is to also feature two rotating drafts from breweries across the country, and a one-barrel brewing system to create special releases that are exclusive to the Logan Circle taproom.

The D.C. location joins brewery outposts in Alexandria and Herndon, but this 14th Street spot marks the company’s big foray into coffee too. Aslin Coffee will open up early for lattes, stay open for remote work and then transition to brews and dinner over firepit with food from the onsite Bun’d Up food truck.

Aslin connected with industry vet Danielle “Dani” Moreno to head up Aslin Coffee, which will serve serve traditional espresso beverages, pour-overs, and teas. Moreno is roasting all Aslin Coffee beans to order in Virginia, and putting her own spin on coffee and tea drinks with nods to her Filipino and Mexican heritage.

Every in-house order will arrive with a pandan-flavored otap (a buttery, flaky Filipino cookie), with coffee served in custom ceramic mugs. To start out, Aslin Coffee will serve housemade syrup flavors like orange cardamom brown butter caramel and a black sesame snickerdoodle. Moreno will also whip up Vietnamese-style coffee, but with dulce de leche instead of condensed milk. Chai tea will be made fresh in-house every day, and Aslin Coffee is teaming up with Centreville’s Bôn Tea House to curate the tea selection.

Moreno’s jumped from pastry chef to wine (she’s a Level 3 Sommelier and the former general manger of now-closed natural wine bar Dio). “The real reason I got into coffee was a pride thing,” she tells Eater DC. “I was hanging out with coffee people who were in Dio and their palates were so much better than mine.” She started roasting coffee in 2018, and now will focus on “thoughtful coffee drinking” at Aslin Coffee, prioritizing positive environmental and labor practices in the coffee industry.


Aslin Coffee will be open in Logan Circle Monday through Friday from 6:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. and weekends from 7:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.

Architecture firm //3877 is handling the design of the 211-seat, indoor/outdoor beer garden/coffee shop, which is influenced by 1950s gas stations and auto shops. It’s fitting, since the vacant lot at the corner of 14th St. and S St. NW was once a former fueling station.

This piece of property had long been desired as a beer garden spot: Dacha Beer Garden previously faced neighborhood pushback for its plans for an outdoor water hole and instead opted to open up its sprawling Nationals Park beer garden instead.

Aslin’s corner beer garden was originally slated to open in fall 2021, and faced an arduous approval process since the site fell under the purview of not one but three Advisory Neighborhood Commissions: U Street, Dupont Circle, and Logan Circle.

Founded in 2015 by co-owners and brothers-in-law Andrew Kelley and Kai Leszkowicz, Aslin’s been growing by leaps and bounds lately. Arlington’s very ‘90s pizzeria Nighthawk Pizza opened in March with 10 Aslin beers on tap at all times.

In addition being part of that project, Aslin plans on opening its own restaurant called Izzi alongside its Herndon taproom on May 23. (Izzi will also include a branch of Aslin Coffee). Meanwhile, the brewery is heading to Pennsylvania as well with the opening of Aslin Pittsburgh this August in The Strip District.

**When Aslin DC opens at 1740 14th Street NW on May 16, its hours are slated for Monday though Thursday from 6:30 a.m. to 11 p.m., Friday from 6:30 a.m. to midnight, Saturday from 7 a.m. to midnight, and Sunday from 7 a.m. to 11 p.m.**
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 26, 2022, 02:51:53 pm
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https://www.facebook.com/RightProperBeer/photos/a.310629845712575/4851335501641964/ (https://www.facebook.com/RightProperBeer/photos/a.310629845712575/4851335501641964/)
 
https://www.funkparade.com/what-to-expect/funk-parade-beer/ (https://www.funkparade.com/what-to-expect/funk-parade-beer/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2022, 03:20:12 pm
Anheuser-Busch will brew a Ukrainian beer in the United States (https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/business-food/chernigivske-beer/index.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2022, 04:36:25 pm
Bud's headquarters are less than 1000 miles from the Ukraine border
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2022, 06:45:05 pm
Quote from: bromeopathic therapist ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2022, 04:36:25 pm
Bud's headquarters are less than 1000 miles from the Ukraine border

good lord, will someone think of AB's accountants?!?  i hope their basement bunkers are well stocked...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2022, 02:16:02 pm
Quote from: bromeopathic therapist ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2022, 07:10:35 am
That nighthawk pizza looks great and very close to me
https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/03/24/a-massive-brewpub-and-pizza-garden-with-90s-vibes-opens-in-arlington/

https://www.nighthawkpizza.com/menus/drinks

I’m especially glad they have a dark mild on tap, can’t wait to go. Grand opening was last night

Any reviews on Nighthawk?

My wife is doing her quarterly dinner with her friend where she has to sit for several hours and listen to her friend complain about how horrible her life is, then talk the friend our of suicide.

I'm the lucky one, and get to hang with my cool kid. Wondering if Nighthawk is worth a visit on a Saturday evening.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on May 01, 2022, 11:14:44 am
Or is that just what your wife tells you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 03, 2022, 03:12:29 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on May 03, 2022, 03:13:42 pm
Nah.  I'll be at Fells Point Fest that weekend.

Quote from: shemptiness on May 03, 2022, 03:12:29 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2022, 07:15:55 pm
Savor
June 24, 2022
Anthem (!)

DA BEERS: https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/experience/breweries/ (https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/experience/breweries/) (cloudburst!!!)

tix $144 & up: https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/tickets/ (https://www.savorcraftbeer.com/tickets/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 13, 2022, 09:00:48 pm
Meh, mich better beer at Snallygaster.

I had better beer at Shelter tonight. Monkish and Bissell.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 17, 2022, 10:41:22 am
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this weekend, a pilot in Poland took to the skies with an important message: Make Beer, Not War. https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/make-beer-not-war/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 17, 2022, 11:41:46 am
^ that's some impressive flying
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 31, 2022, 08:38:10 pm
idiom's upcoming beer contains three cutting-edge innovations: thiolized yeast (GMO'ed), incognito (new hop extract) and phantasm (white grape concentrate powder that boosts thiols). 

"Announcing our newest beer: PARTY ANIMAL. Brewed with Omega Yeast Star Party thiol-boosting yeast and a HUGE dose of Citra Incognito in the mash (instead of traditional pellets - again, more thiols), then littered with Centennial hops throughout the boil. Once we cooled down a bit, we whirlpooled with another HUGE dose of Citra Incognito alongside a healthy dose of Phantasm powder from Phantasm NZ to help boost thiol production.  When fermentation was complete, we dry-hopped with a blend of Centennial and Mosaic Cryo hops for massive tangerine, white grape and rich, ripe berry notes with a dank resin nuance. Stay tuned for other thiol-driven experiments coming down the pike from Idiom Brewing Co.  Releasing 6/10.  Get some!"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 13, 2022, 01:16:44 pm
Churchkey  9th Annual Brewers’ Brunch on Saturday, June 25th at 12 noon.

Expect 5 amazing courses from Executive Chef Bill Williamson, 6 rare beers & special brewer guests from 3 Sons Brewing Co., The Lost Abbey, Maine Beer Co., Perennial Artisan Ales, Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. & Wooden Robot Brewery!
The Brewers’ Brunch is $65 per person, exclusive of tax & gratuity. Reservations are required. To reserve your spot at the Brewers’ Brunch, click on this link to our EventBrite page (and tickets are going fast!): https://www.eventbrite.com/.../churchkeys-9th-annual....
After the brunch, join us at the bar as we tap a bevy of specialty kegs from each of the featured brewers. Reservations are not required for the tap takeover portion of the event.
Welcome Beer
Wooden Robot Brewery
Dan Wade – Co-Founder & Head Brewer
Double Shot Good Morning Vietnam (American Blond Ale w/ Coffee & Vanilla)
Amuse
Oyster & Rock Shrimp with Melon Mignonette & Horseradish Furikake
Perennial Artisan Ales
Phil Wymore – Co-Founder & Brewmaster
Weird Era (3-Year-Blend of Spontaneously-Fermented Ales)
First Course
Stracciatella with Tomato Confit, Fennel Cream & Fennel Pollen Tuile
The Lost Abbey
Tomme Arthur – Co-Founder & COO
Yellow Bus Stop (Sour Blond Ale w/ Peaches)
Second Course
Pan-Seared Trout with Roasted Asparagus, Toasted Almonds & Brown Butter Hollandaise
Maine Beer Co.
Anne Marisic – Head of Marketing
Thank You 2022 (American IPA w/ HBC 472 Hops)
Third Course
90 Day Dry-Aged 44 Farms NY Strip with Beef Fat Chimichurri & Egg Yolk
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.
Steve Grossman – Brand Ambassador
Bigfoot 2014 (American Barleywine)
Fourth Course
Berries with Whipped Cream, Castella Cake & Ginger Candy
3 Sons Brewing Co.
Cory Artanis – Co-Founder & Head Brewer
Fractional Sum 2022 (Imperial Stout w/ Vanilla & Mostra Coffee) See less
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 24, 2022, 11:30:32 am
not that anyone cares anymore, but Stone Brewing to be Sold to Sapporo Holdings (https://www.brewbound.com/news/stone-brewing-to-be-sold-to-sapporo-holdings/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 24, 2022, 11:38:46 am
Quote from: useless side-tangent ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 13, 2022, 01:16:44 pm
Churchkey  9th Annual Brewers’ Brunch on Saturday, June 25th at 12 noon.

Expect 5 amazing courses from Executive Chef Bill Williamson, 6 rare beers & special brewer guests from 3 Sons Brewing Co., The Lost Abbey, Maine Beer Co., Perennial Artisan Ales, Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. & Wooden Robot Brewery!
The Brewers’ Brunch is $65 per person, exclusive of tax & gratuity. Reservations are required. To reserve your spot at the Brewers’ Brunch, click on this link to our EventBrite page (and tickets are going fast!): https://www.eventbrite.com/.../churchkeys-9th-annual....
After the brunch, join us at the bar as we tap a bevy of specialty kegs from each of the featured brewers. Reservations are not required for the tap takeover portion of the event.
Welcome Beer
Wooden Robot Brewery
Dan Wade – Co-Founder & Head Brewer
Double Shot Good Morning Vietnam (American Blond Ale w/ Coffee & Vanilla)
Amuse
Oyster & Rock Shrimp with Melon Mignonette & Horseradish Furikake
Perennial Artisan Ales
Phil Wymore – Co-Founder & Brewmaster
Weird Era (3-Year-Blend of Spontaneously-Fermented Ales)
First Course
Stracciatella with Tomato Confit, Fennel Cream & Fennel Pollen Tuile
The Lost Abbey
Tomme Arthur – Co-Founder & COO
Yellow Bus Stop (Sour Blond Ale w/ Peaches)
Second Course
Pan-Seared Trout with Roasted Asparagus, Toasted Almonds & Brown Butter Hollandaise
Maine Beer Co.
Anne Marisic – Head of Marketing
Thank You 2022 (American IPA w/ HBC 472 Hops)
Third Course
90 Day Dry-Aged 44 Farms NY Strip with Beef Fat Chimichurri & Egg Yolk
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.
Steve Grossman – Brand Ambassador
Bigfoot 2014 (American Barleywine)
Fourth Course
Berries with Whipped Cream, Castella Cake & Ginger Candy
3 Sons Brewing Co.
Cory Artanis – Co-Founder & Head Brewer
Fractional Sum 2022 (Imperial Stout w/ Vanilla & Mostra Coffee) See less

Saw Brennser in line for this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 24, 2022, 11:46:06 am
Quote from: Yada on June 24, 2022, 11:38:46 am
Saw Brennser in line for this.
hope he already has tix, as it's sold out
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 24, 2022, 11:51:07 am
Quote from: useless side-tangent ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 24, 2022, 11:46:06 am
Quote from: Yada on June 24, 2022, 11:38:46 am
Saw Brennser in line for this.
hope he already has tix, as it's sold out

He's actually in line right now... wants the first bite of food and first pour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 24, 2022, 11:59:39 am
Quote from: Yada on June 24, 2022, 11:51:07 am
Quote from: useless side-tangent ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 24, 2022, 11:46:06 am
Quote from: Yada on June 24, 2022, 11:38:46 am
Saw Brennser in line for this.
hope he already has tix, as it's sold out

He's actually in line right now... wants the first bite of food and first pour.

Thanks. Thids one made me laugh. And I needed it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 24, 2022, 12:03:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 24, 2022, 11:59:39 am
Thanks. Thids one made me laugh. And I needed it.
don't we all
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 24, 2022, 04:52:18 pm
Free Rose at all NRG establishments this evening...

That's the sound of space mapping out the nearest metro stops to each location.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 24, 2022, 05:02:41 pm
Well I guess we don't have a Rose thread...so yada was right to put it here, little more deets

We support the right to choose.
In response to today's Supreme Court decision and to support women's rights to make their own decisions about their reproductive health care, tonight all Neighborhood Restaurant Group restaurants will be offering a glass of Rose wine on the house and encouraging donations which we will direct toward organizations that provide health care and defend reproductive rights such as NARAL and Planned Parenthood.  Neighborhood Restaurant Group will match a percentage of the donations that we receive. We welcome you to join us in this small effort that we hope will be impactful.  If you have any questions, please reach out to Stephanie Babin at stephanie@neighborhoodrestaurantgroup.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 24, 2022, 05:08:36 pm
Dude, I have Monkish and Fiden's in the fridge. I aint drinking no rose. Time to go walk the dog and cook dinner, so I can have my half beer with my dinner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 01:40:53 pm
Aslin's new pre-9:30 show Forum meet-up spot opens tomorrow.

https://www.popville.com/2022/06/weirdos/

Also, there is a Finback tap takeover at Churchkey tomorrow featuring one of the best stouts I've ever had. And I have to be in DC tomorrow.


Hmmm. I know which of the two aforementioned options I'll be choosing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2022, 01:50:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 01:40:53 pm
Aslin's new pre-9:30 show Forum meet-up spot opens tomorrow.
pre-black cat yeah for sure
well not even a mile from 9:30, so doable for those who like to walk
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 01:52:04 pm
Quote from: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2022, 01:50:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 01:40:53 pm
Aslin's new pre-9:30 show Forum meet-up spot opens tomorrow.
pre-black cat yeah for sure
well not even a mile from 9:30, so doable for those who like to walk

Yikes, Churchkey is my current pre-show spot for 9:30. On the rare occasions I pre-game.

I guess I like walking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2022, 01:53:08 pm
Not a big deal for me at all...often park that far from the show as I don't like paying for parking

and I have it on good authority that you pregame at Whole Foods
which is only a block from church key
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 03:10:51 pm
Quote from: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2022, 01:53:08 pm
Not a big deal for me at all...often park that far from the show as I don't like paying for parking

and I have it on good authority that you pregame at Whole Foods
which is only a block from church key

Do they even serve beer on tap at that Whole Foods anymore? Not the last time I was there.

There is a new Whole Foods at 967 Florida, a three minute walk from the 9:30 Club. I haven't been there though so don't know their beer setup.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2022, 03:14:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 03:10:51 pm
Do they even serve beer on tap at that Whole Foods anymore? Not the last time I was there.
I do know that WF stoped their policy allowing you to drink and shop...lame
no idea what the draft game is at either of those, but most of the WF I've been to have a bar (which is kinda nuts of you think of it.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 03:30:52 pm
Quote from: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2022, 03:14:07 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 03:10:51 pm
Do they even serve beer on tap at that Whole Foods anymore? Not the last time I was there.
I do know that WF stoped their policy allowing you to drink and shop...lame
no idea what the draft game is at either of those, but most of the WF I've been to have a bar (which is kinda nuts of you think of it.)

Pretty sure the "bars" at WF on P Street and H Street (used to go there after work sometimes) have never reopened. The one in Cap Hill did.

https://untappd.com/v/whole-foods-market/8312824

I think all the ones in VA reopened.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2022, 04:13:24 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 03:30:52 pm
I think all the ones in VA reopened.
been to Clarendon, Pentagon City and Alexandria and Can confirm operational
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on June 30, 2022, 09:06:43 am
You know your life is a spoiled brat, when you need a bar at a food store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 30, 2022, 09:29:54 am
Quote from: Walk,on,by on June 30, 2022, 09:06:43 am
You know your life is a spoiled brat, when you need a bar at a food store.
The Wegmans with full restaurants and bars are surreal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on June 30, 2022, 10:00:39 am
The vegan chili at Whole Foods / Plnt Burger is...stunning.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2022, 12:40:48 pm
a topic I'm sure Space has researched

It's odd that some decent German 4 packs of bombers are waay cheaper than local brews 
Tucher Helles Hefe Weizen,
Tucher Dunkles Hefe Weizen
Bitburger Premium Pilsner
Paulaner Pils
Paulaner Original Munich Lager
Fruh Kolsch ($10.50)
Kostritzer Schwarzbier ($11)


IMO these are very good beers too


Like $6.99 vs $16

Just seems crazy that they can ship it all the way from Germany and still be that much cheaper than a brewery only a few miles away
Is there some sort of Germany subsidy?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 30, 2022, 05:12:53 pm
I don't know the answer to that one but is it wrong that i'm thinking of bringing some Monkish and Other Half to Europe next week?

Not sure i want to rely on just wine and German beer for a two week vacation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2022, 05:31:17 pm
you are nuts, but on brand
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2022, 05:43:37 pm
Quote from: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2022, 12:40:48 pm
Bitburger Premium Pilsner
Fruh Kolsch ($10.50)

I buy these often and enjoy them as well.

Quote from: Space Freely on June 29, 2022, 03:30:52 pm
Pretty sure the "bars" at WF on P Street and H Street (used to go there after work sometimes) have never reopened. The one in Cap Hill did.

The SF ones only reopened in the last two weeks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2022, 06:17:59 pm
Quote from: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2022, 12:40:48 pm
It's odd that some decent German 4 packs of bombers are waay cheaper than local brews 

Just seems crazy that they can ship it all the way from Germany and still be that much cheaper than a brewery only a few miles away
Is there some sort of Germany subsidy?

aa lot of things go in to explaining that price difference.

first, transpo isn't as big a cost as you might think.  when you're shipping containers full of beer, the cost per pack is pretty low.  those beers are distributed by big shipping networks.  also, getting a few 6-packs from Aslin to DTC probably isn't as cheap as you think.

you know how in real estate, the 3 most important things are location, location and location?  in brewing it's volume, volume and volume.  the breweries you listed are large, industrial breweries.  they brew something like 20 to 100 times more beer than anything local to you.  volume up = costs down.  they can make their beers cheaper and they're priced accordingly.

the there's ingredients: those german brewers spend less on ingredients per bottle/can of beer than your locals.  in addition to volume discounts, none of those beers are hop-forward like our IPAs, NEIPAs, etc., nor do they contain other expensive ingredients like vanilla beans, fruit, etc.  again, cheaper to make.

finally, you're comparing small(ish) batch local beers to (high-quality) industrial beers.  bitburger produces a damn fine lager, but in germany it's considered pedestrian.  it's what they serve at soccer stadiums and outdoor festivals.  it's not considered a premium product like craft beer, so in a way you're comparing apples to oranges.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2022, 06:40:13 pm
I mean I do get that
but they are still cheaper than Miller lite and Yuengling ...which you would think would have all those advantages too

I did notice Heineken is selling at that price for their bomber 4 packs too

Fine with me, I actually really like some of these
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2022, 09:23:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 30, 2022, 05:12:53 pm
I don't know the answer to that one but is it wrong that i'm thinking of bringing some Monkish and Other Half to Europe next week?

Not sure i want to rely on just wine and German beer for a two week vacation.

LOLSPACE
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2022, 12:37:23 am
Quote from: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2022, 06:40:13 pm
but they are still cheaper than Miller lite and Yuengling ...which you would think would have all those advantages too

yeah, that is strange.  maybe those german beers are being sold at cost or below, to gain market share?

you've switched from comparing to local craft beers, to mass-produced american light lagers, aka closer to apples-to-apples territory.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 01, 2022, 02:14:47 am
Quote from: sweetcell on July 01, 2022, 12:37:23 am
Quote from: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2022, 06:40:13 pm
but they are still cheaper than Miller lite and Yuengling ...which you would think would have all those advantages too

yeah, that is strange.  maybe those german beers are being sold at cost or below, to gain market share?

you've switched from comparing to local craft beers, to mass-produced american light lagers, aka closer to apples-to-apples territory.

I will report live on their cost in Munich vs. the cost of drinking your own beer from your free checked bags.

Ironically, you CAN get Other Half in Munich, at 13 euros a can.

https://www.biervana.eu/us-biere/other-half/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 01, 2022, 09:27:36 am
This may be peak space.... can someone confirm?

Traveling 4,000 miles with personal stash of beer.  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BrettnotBritt on July 01, 2022, 09:34:05 am
You are going to a country well renowned for its beer and you're packing... beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 01, 2022, 10:56:47 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 01, 2022, 09:34:05 am
You are going to a country well renowned for its beer and you're packing... beer?

Nine nights in Italy (Venice and Merano), four in Germany (Munich) and two in Austria (Salzburg.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 01, 2022, 10:58:54 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 01, 2022, 09:34:05 am
You are going to a country well renowned for its beer and you're packing... beer?

You never know when a botle share night break out. Or some rando on the street might want to trade some Cantillon for some Monkish.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 01, 2022, 12:20:48 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 01, 2022, 09:34:05 am
You are going to a country well renowned for its beer and you're packing... beer?

Hot take: Reinheitsgebot is shite
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2022, 12:34:43 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on July 01, 2022, 12:20:48 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 01, 2022, 09:34:05 am
You are going to a country well renowned for its beer and you're packing... beer?

Hot take: Reinheitsgebot is shite

that's not a hot take, it's confirmed knowledge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2022, 12:42:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 01, 2022, 12:34:43 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on July 01, 2022, 12:20:48 pm
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 01, 2022, 09:34:05 am
You are going to a country well renowned for its beer and you're packing... beer?

Hot take: Reinheitsgebot is shite

that's not a hot take, it's confirmed knowledge.
well true....but there were some quality/health concerns

 to stop unscrupulous brewers from adding dubious toxic and even hallucinogenic ingredients as preservatives or flavourings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2022, 02:26:55 pm
Quote from: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2022, 12:42:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 01, 2022, 12:34:43 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on July 01, 2022, 12:20:48 pm
Hot take: Reinheitsgebot is shite

that's not a hot take, it's confirmed knowledge.
well true....but there were some quality/health concerns

 to stop unscrupulous brewers from adding dubious toxic and even hallucinogenic ingredients as preservatives or flavourings.

at the time - some 500 years ago - it did indeed make sense.  water wasn't safe to drink, so beer was a must-have, and you couldn't risk idiots screwing that up too.  "hallucinogenic ingredients" refers to rye ergot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergot#Effects_on_humans,_other_mammals_and_LSD). 

my point was that adhering to the Reinheitsgebot nowadays is stupid - and there are stupid homebrewers out there.  i don't see why you'd limit yourself that way.  even in germany today, those purity rules only apply to lagers which is kinda meaningless since 99% of lagers follow those rules anyways (only benefit is that it prevents the use of rice, corn, or sugar so they can't make crappy american adjunct lagers).  but some idiots try applying it to ales, which rant rant rant you can move on now if you haven't already
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 01, 2022, 03:10:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 01, 2022, 10:56:47 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 01, 2022, 09:34:05 am
You are going to a country well renowned for its beer and you're packing... beer?

Nine nights in Italy (Venice and Merano), four in Germany (Munich) and two in Austria (Salzburg.)

Julian,  please have your assistant add these to the space vacation file.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 01, 2022, 03:37:21 pm
Quote from: Yada on July 01, 2022, 03:10:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 01, 2022, 10:56:47 am
Quote from: BrettnotBritt on July 01, 2022, 09:34:05 am
You are going to a country well renowned for its beer and you're packing... beer?

Nine nights in Italy (Venice and Merano), four in Germany (Munich) and two in Austria (Salzburg.)

Julian,  please have your assistant add these to the space vacation file.
Bitsy, could you update the space vacation file? Thanks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 08, 2022, 01:12:42 pm
RIP to sweeties favorite brewery, 3 Stars.

Won't be missed!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2022, 03:42:32 pm
don't think anyone cares about this anymore, but just in case:

GABF
October 6-8
Denver, CO

presales start tomorrow, ping me if you need a code.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 11, 2022, 05:32:34 pm
I'm late to the game on this, but Cigar City White Oak is really tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 12, 2022, 03:27:10 am
Three nights in Europe so far, bo beers from home drank yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 13, 2022, 01:48:28 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on June 24, 2022, 11:30:32 am
not that anyone cares anymore, but Stone Brewing to be Sold to Sapporo Holdings (https://www.brewbound.com/news/stone-brewing-to-be-sold-to-sapporo-holdings/)

good read: Business is Hard, and No Brewery Stays Cool Forever (https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/2022/7/12/business-is-hard-and-no-brewery-stays-cool-forever)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2022, 02:38:29 pm
didn't get a chace to stop by...but the new Aslin place looks cool
Nice mural of our newest SCOUTS Justice too

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXTSXHFKyrYKF7P9A518qYhmZPExTlK2qJGEiVusQoKRpoycCgEtIwiaOa35AIj4z-nA2CgMJifmpTRENQqInOAZu2K6jfFQKESh2_7EWT1RMZnrYwkBGBPYkrGihOFA3D26P24nE8ywJ68rrKby0M6vw=w1206-h904-no?authuser=0)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 13, 2022, 05:43:50 pm
Quote from: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2022, 02:38:29 pm
didn't get a chace to stop by...but the new Aslin place looks cool
Nice mural of our newest SCOUTS Justice too

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXTSXHFKyrYKF7P9A518qYhmZPExTlK2qJGEiVusQoKRpoycCgEtIwiaOa35AIj4z-nA2CgMJifmpTRENQqInOAZu2K6jfFQKESh2_7EWT1RMZnrYwkBGBPYkrGihOFA3D26P24nE8ywJ68rrKby0M6vw=w1206-h904-no?authuser=0)

While complimenting the space, someone made a rather scathing review of the actual Aslin beer on Beer Advocate. Sadly, I can't really say i disagree.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2022, 05:51:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 13, 2022, 05:43:50 pm
While complimenting the space, someone made a rather scathing review of the actual Aslin beer on Beer Advocate. Sadly, I can't really say i disagree.
was it you (hoppytobehere), come you can tell us
yes, did sound like he had a horrible time, but seems to have it out for them prior to even going

and who really cares about beer advocate
can't stand some of the idiots who blather on there...why I never read those forums
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on July 15, 2022, 10:04:57 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CgDamIBuMLL/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2022, 03:03:06 pm
via Sapwood Cellars Brewery's FB page:

Every time Phish plays Merriweather we get an influx of beer nerds! Coincidentally, this week's variant in an intense extra-dank triple-dry-hopped DIPA... Blaze On! We added a huge dose of Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin to two kegs of Identical Cousins. The first sip is a little like chewing on a raw hop cone! Pours should be available through Saturday and ask your bartender about crowlers too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2022, 03:11:53 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 06, 2020, 04:55:21 pm
i've consistently been getting Freemont and Georgetown (makers of Bodhizafa) that is 2 days old in my local grocery store.

new record: got a few 6-packs of Bodhi that were packaged the previous day.  so in 24 hours they had time to can the beer, package and pallet it, get it to a distributor's warehouse, re-pallet it with other beers, and get it delivered to stores (including mine, which is some 42 miles away from the brewery).  people keep talking about supply chain problems, maybe they need to take to the folks distributing Georgetown.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2022, 11:10:11 pm
co-founder of DC Brau is dropping out of the brewery... and getting into weed?

DC Brau Ownership Splits: Jeff Hancock and Mari Rodela Move On (https://dcbeer.com/2022/07/29/dc-brau-ownership-splits-jeff-hancock-and-mari-rodela-move-on/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 02, 2022, 12:26:42 pm
what a great marketing campaing by the defunct Arlington Brewing co
Brainfood!
(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/296468093_10158919293373036_2271192151882760464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=tmK78N-w1IYAX8pRgL-&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT9bnKnAMVKAw_l5rpzsGNC_8x_UrZ6srBpjSYk7HIUv0g&oe=62ED4948)

Love that phone number: west 129

From 1895 until 1917, Arlington had its own brewery built on the banks of the Potomac where the Rosslyn Marriott now stands.  The brewery was originally named the Consumers Brewing Company until 1902 when it was renamed the Arlington Brewing Company.  The brewery was a large red brick building with turrets at each end, a clock tower in the center, and tall smokestack with horse and mule shoes nailed to the top for good luck.
The brewery sold to legal saloons that dotted Rosslyn and D.C. and it also sold to the many illegal saloons, gambling houses, and brothels that crowded Rosslyn and Jackson City to serve Washington thirsts.  As the idea of Prohibition became more popular and the brewery expanded sales to individuals, the brewery offered to help protect your reputation with free local delivery of its products in unmarked wagons.
Prohibition killed this brewery after Virginia went dry in the autumn of 1916 and Congress outlawed alcohol in D.C. the following year.

I'm sure Yada would have hated it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 02, 2022, 12:37:42 pm
but did they even haze, bro?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 02, 2022, 12:43:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 29, 2022, 11:10:11 pm
co-founder of DC Brau is dropping out of the brewery... and getting into weed?

DC Brau Ownership Splits: Jeff Hancock and Mari Rodela Move On (https://dcbeer.com/2022/07/29/dc-brau-ownership-splits-jeff-hancock-and-mari-rodela-move-on/)

Wouldn't be surprised if they go the way of 3 Stars in the near future.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 02, 2022, 12:48:21 pm
one thing DC brau has been pretty good at is getting their product out there
It's nearly as common on DC menus as Bud

3-stars not so much
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 02, 2022, 01:44:36 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 02, 2022, 12:43:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on July 29, 2022, 11:10:11 pm
co-founder of DC Brau is dropping out of the brewery... and getting into weed?

DC Brau Ownership Splits: Jeff Hancock and Mari Rodela Move On (https://dcbeer.com/2022/07/29/dc-brau-ownership-splits-jeff-hancock-and-mari-rodela-move-on/)

Wouldn't be surprised if they go the way of 3 Stars in the near future.

Other Half FTW.

Though their taproom seems usually pretty dead.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 02, 2022, 03:00:25 pm
Woah. Check out the drop today at Dominion.


Fidens Brewing Company The Vegan DIPA, Burning Daylight DIPA, and Teacher's Pet Pale Ale (🚨 Available in-store only, first come first serve, one can of each limit per customer. SUPER LIMITED STOCK 🚨)
Fremont Brewing The Rusty Nail 2022 Bourbon BA Imperial Stout, Lush IPA, Head Full of Dynomite Hazy IPA, Legend Cold IPA, Summer Pale Ale, and Golden Pilsner
Crooked Stave Sour Rosé Sour Ale, Petie Sour Raspberry Oak-Aged Wild Ale, Juicy West IPA, New Zealand Style Pilsner, Juicy East IPA, Von Pilsner Keller Pils, Petite Sour Blueberry Oak-Aged Wild Ale, Mama Bear's Sour Cherry Pie Grand Cru, and Pure Spon
Bissell Brothers Nothing Gold DIPA and Precept German-Style Pilsner
Equilibrium Brewery Systems Four DIPA (Fidens, Mortalis Brewing Company, Widowmaker Brewing collab), Sweep The Leg TIPA (Civil Society Brewing collab), Galaxy Flare DIPA, Kinetics DIPA, Hop Wave 2 DIPA, and Photon Citrus Pale Ale
Mason Ale Works The Duke TIPA, B.A. Baracus 2022 Heaven Hill Bourbon/Vanilla Brandy BA Barleywine, and Societal Good West Coast Pale Ale (Laguna Beach Beer Company collab)
Kings County Brewers Collective Krill Bill Vol. 2 DIPA, The Incredible Gulp Sour Ale (J. Wakefield Brewing collab), Summer Camp Zombie Sour Ale, The Fast and The Furriest West Coast-Style IPA (Hackney Brewery collab), Straphanger Rice Lager, Superhero Sidekicks IPA, and Penguins in Paradise IPA
Hudson Valley Brewery Mirrorshield Sour IPA, Bloom Sour DIPA, Feel No Way Pilsner, Diadem Pale Ale, and Eveningland Sour DIPA
Baa Baa Brewhouse Smooth Ninja Vol. 1 Sour Ale, Smooth Ninja Vol. 2 Sour Ale, and Candy Baa: Strawberry, Cherry, Lemon, White Chocolate Sour Ale
American Solera An Offering of Guava Sour Ale and Ambient Kolsch
Tripping Animals Brewing Co. Load of Barnacles TIPA (Calusa Brewing collab), The Great Trip DIPA (Great Notion Brewing collab), Heavy Hammer West Coast-Style DIPA (Humble Sea Brewing Co. collab), Molly Hackwrench DIPA, No Mames Mexican-Style Lager, and Ever Haze IPA
Wild East Brewing Co. Repeater Oak-Aged Sour Ale w/ Blueberries
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 02, 2022, 03:51:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 02, 2022, 03:00:25 pm
Fremont Brewing The Rusty Nail 2022 Bourbon BA Imperial Stout, Lush IPA, Head Full of Dynomite Hazy IPA, Legend Cold IPA, Summer Pale Ale, and Golden Pilsner

interesting, that list is ordered from most to least desirable.  rusty nail is a damn solid BBA imp stout, as long as you're willing to pay $25 a bottle.  Lush was my go-to IPA for a while (Bodhizafa has since taken over).  dynomite is a fine hazy but likely no better than what you can already get locally.  the rest are middle of the pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 02, 2022, 04:26:46 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 02, 2022, 03:51:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 02, 2022, 03:00:25 pm
Fremont Brewing The Rusty Nail 2022 Bourbon BA Imperial Stout, Lush IPA, Head Full of Dynomite Hazy IPA, Legend Cold IPA, Summer Pale Ale, and Golden Pilsner

interesting, that list is ordered from most to least desirable.  rusty nail is a damn solid BBA imp stout, as long as you're willing to pay $25 a bottle.  Lush was my go-to IPA for a while (Bodhizafa has since taken over).  dynomite is a fine hazy but likely no better than what you can already get locally.  the rest are middle of the pack.

Rusty Nail is an old fave.

$33/bottle in VA.

I still have a 2019 bottle of Rusty Nail and a 2019 bottle of B-Bomb in my cellar.

And Churchkey has it on draft once in a while, including right now. Dark Star, too. At $12 for a 13 oz pour, it's a better deal than getting the whole bottle.

Which I won't be doing.

But if it's still on draft next week when I'm in DC, I'll be stopping in at Churchkey.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on August 03, 2022, 01:04:14 pm
 Beer shortage brewing across the US  (https://www.today.com/video/is-a-beer-shortage-brewing-across-the-us-145383493771?fbclid=IwAR2gt_7C170JqGy9AZ-4jBySM-ANtfJj5ZSSRrt3FpnfzYhBmTOs4PRGNyI)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2022, 02:52:41 pm
I haven't been to the PAC NW since 2018, but I always loved being able to grab sixers of Lush in any beer store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 03, 2022, 03:15:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2022, 02:52:41 pm
I haven't been to the PAC NW since 2018, but I always loved being able to grab sixers of Lush in any beer grocery store.

FTFY ;D 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2022, 03:43:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 03, 2022, 03:15:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 03, 2022, 02:52:41 pm
I haven't been to the PAC NW since 2018, but I always loved being able to grab sixers of Lush in any beer grocery store.

FTFY ;D

Can confirm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 05, 2022, 12:29:21 pm
Speaking of PNW, this is a good one.

Join ChurchKey on Thursday, August 11th, as we welcome our friends from de Garde Brewing. On this night, we will pour 5 bottles from this renowned brewery from Oregon!
Don’t miss your chance to try this special lineup of beers -- including The Sixth Peach, The Kreik, and Hose.
There is no admission fee for this event. All de Garde beers will be priced individually by the glass and in 4 oz. tasting pours. The beer list is subject to change without notice.
THE DE GARDE BEER LIST
- Hose (Dry-Hopped Mixed Fermentation Gose)
- The Examandias (Spent Sherry BA Wild Ale)
- The Kriek (Wild Ale w/ Cherries)
- The Maison (Wild Ale)
- The Sixth Peach (Wild Ale w/ Peaches)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2022, 02:11:16 pm
Monkish Brewing Co.
 Four beers tapping throughout the week
 at Dominion in falls church

-‘Conscience Be Free’ DIPA (8.5% ABV)
-‘If It Fits’ IPA (6.9% ABV) “Double Dry Hopped (DDH) IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Enigma hops.”
-‘Realer Than Real’ TIPA (10.0% ABV) “Robust Triple IPA with Galaxy and Amarillo (Triple IPA version of Really Real & The Realness).”
-‘West Coast Classic’ West Coast IPA (7.0% ABV)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 12, 2022, 02:16:14 pm
so weird.  monkish, for years, not only resisted brewing IPAs bur proudly and defiantly said that they never would.  after a few years of this they relented and started brewing 1 or 2, to keep the masses happy (and themselves in the black).  and now, look at that list... you'd think they were just another west coast hop-juicer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 12, 2022, 02:29:22 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 12, 2022, 02:16:14 pm
so weird.  monkish, for years, not only resisted brewing IPAs bur proudly and defiantly said that they never would.  after a few years of this they relented and started brewing 1 or 2, to keep the masses happy (and themselves in the black).  and now, look at that list... you'd think they were just another west coast hop-juicer.

They actually specialize in New England IPA's, they don't do that many West Coast style. Though one that made it here is.

If there's a better brewer of NEIPA west of the Mississippi, I'd be shocked.

Dominion actually got six of their beers not four.

Shelter also got six.

Edit: Also: $7.50 for a four ounce pour of the TIPA and that's the only size available at Dominion. That's some serious price gouging right there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 12, 2022, 06:00:46 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 12, 2022, 02:29:22 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 12, 2022, 02:16:14 pm
so weird.  monkish, for years, not only resisted brewing IPAs bur proudly and defiantly said that they never would.  after a few years of this they relented and started brewing 1 or 2, to keep the masses happy (and themselves in the black).  and now, look at that list... you'd think they were just another west coast hop-juicer.

They actually specialize in New England IPA's, they don't do that many West Coast style.

a california-based homebrewing podcast that i used to listen to had a Monkish fetish, so they had the head brewer on regularly.  he said that when they were "forced" to start brewing IPAs, they decided to focus on hazies since it was, at the time, the cutting edge of IPA.  also, they were concerned they couldn't compete with all the excellent WCIPA brewers around them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 16, 2022, 08:00:47 am
Quote from: side-passport ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2022, 02:11:16 pm
Monkish Brewing Co.
 Four beers tapping throughout the week
 at Dominion in falls church

-‘Conscience Be Free’ DIPA (8.5% ABV)
-‘If It Fits’ IPA (6.9% ABV) “Double Dry Hopped (DDH) IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Enigma hops.”
-‘Realer Than Real’ TIPA (10.0% ABV) “Robust Triple IPA with Galaxy and Amarillo (Triple IPA version of Really Real & The Realness).”
-‘West Coast Classic’ West Coast IPA (7.0% ABV)

I didn't go, but those six Monkish kegs all kicked within a few hours of tapping them.

Meanwhile, they put the same six kegs on at Shelter Sunday at noon, and they're all still flowing. I did go to that. It was yum. Mr Greg Engert and famaily were seated at the table next to us. No Civil War gear.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 16, 2022, 08:40:19 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 16, 2022, 08:00:47 am
No Civil War gear.
thanks for adding that as it was surely going to come up soon
did you do an undergarment check, as I'm sure he had some bloomers on
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 19, 2022, 04:58:11 pm
Brewery Stars (https://brewerystars.com/ (https://brewerystars.com/)) = the metacritic/rotten tomatoes of the beer world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 19, 2022, 05:17:58 pm
Nice and yes ((a certain lack of variety at the top of the list...)
if you only had one The Veil, two of these would have been in the top ten
12   Red Dragon Brewery   
13   Benchtop Brewing   
15   Commonwealth Brewing Co
18   Wheatland Spring Farm + Brewery


wow that nova..this has got to hurt for my neighbors (I mean the truth hurts)

#72 New District Brewing Company
pretty much dead last because 73/74 are BJ's brewhouse (chain restaurant/brew pub)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2022, 07:43:39 pm
Five best VA breweries, in no order:

Veil
Answer
Triple Crossing
Juicy
Wheatland Spring

#6 Pen Druid
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on August 19, 2022, 08:14:30 pm
6, has always been, my favorite number.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 25, 2022, 11:23:16 am
Snallygaster Breewery list

https://twitter.com/DCBeer/status/1562070202862522369/photo/1
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 25, 2022, 11:25:07 am
Quote from: Tico-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2022, 02:11:16 pm
Monkish Brewing Co.
 Four beers tapping throughout the week
 at Dominion in falls church

-‘Conscience Be Free’ DIPA (8.5% ABV)
-‘If It Fits’ IPA (6.9% ABV) “Double Dry Hopped (DDH) IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Enigma hops.”
-‘Realer Than Real’ TIPA (10.0% ABV) “Robust Triple IPA with Galaxy and Amarillo (Triple IPA version of Really Real & The Realness).”
-‘West Coast Classic’ West Coast IPA (7.0% ABV)

2.5 weeks after tapping six Monkish beers at Shelter, four of them are still on tap.

Same beers kicked just hours after being tapped at Dominion.

I think people in the burbs like craft beer more than people in DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 25, 2022, 12:26:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 25, 2022, 11:25:07 am
Quote from: Tico-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2022, 02:11:16 pm
Monkish Brewing Co.
 Four beers tapping throughout the week
 at Dominion in falls church

-‘Conscience Be Free’ DIPA (8.5% ABV)
-‘If It Fits’ IPA (6.9% ABV) “Double Dry Hopped (DDH) IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Enigma hops.”
-‘Realer Than Real’ TIPA (10.0% ABV) “Robust Triple IPA with Galaxy and Amarillo (Triple IPA version of Really Real & The Realness).”
-‘West Coast Classic’ West Coast IPA (7.0% ABV)

2.5 weeks after tapping six Monkish beers at Shelter, four of them are still on tap.

Same beers kicked just hours after being tapped at Dominion.

I think people in the burbs like craft beer more than people in DC.

alternate take: people downtown are too busy with their downtown lives to be chasing kegs.  folks in the burbs are accustomed to driving everywhere for anything interesting, and generally lack stimulation so they get excited about... beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 25, 2022, 12:41:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 25, 2022, 12:26:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 25, 2022, 11:25:07 am
Quote from: Tico-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2022, 02:11:16 pm
Monkish Brewing Co.
 Four beers tapping throughout the week
 at Dominion in falls church

-‘Conscience Be Free’ DIPA (8.5% ABV)
-‘If It Fits’ IPA (6.9% ABV) “Double Dry Hopped (DDH) IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Enigma hops.”
-‘Realer Than Real’ TIPA (10.0% ABV) “Robust Triple IPA with Galaxy and Amarillo (Triple IPA version of Really Real & The Realness).”
-‘West Coast Classic’ West Coast IPA (7.0% ABV)

2.5 weeks after tapping six Monkish beers at Shelter, four of them are still on tap.

Same beers kicked just hours after being tapped at Dominion.

I think people in the burbs like craft beer more than people in DC.

alternate take: people downtown are too busy with their downtown lives to be chasing kegs.  folks in the burbs are accustomed to driving everywhere for anything interesting, and generally lack stimulation so they get excited about... beer.

alternate take: no one cares about chasing below average haze that was worthwhile in 2019.

alternate take x 2: people are focusing on their waist sizes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on August 25, 2022, 01:00:52 pm
Also, DC got more kegs than VA?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 25, 2022, 02:08:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 25, 2022, 12:41:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 25, 2022, 12:26:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 25, 2022, 11:25:07 am
Quote from: Tico-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2022, 02:11:16 pm
Monkish Brewing Co.
 Four beers tapping throughout the week
 at Dominion in falls church

-‘Conscience Be Free’ DIPA (8.5% ABV)
-‘If It Fits’ IPA (6.9% ABV) “Double Dry Hopped (DDH) IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Enigma hops.”
-‘Realer Than Real’ TIPA (10.0% ABV) “Robust Triple IPA with Galaxy and Amarillo (Triple IPA version of Really Real & The Realness).”
-‘West Coast Classic’ West Coast IPA (7.0% ABV)

2.5 weeks after tapping six Monkish beers at Shelter, four of them are still on tap.

Same beers kicked just hours after being tapped at Dominion.

I think people in the burbs like craft beer more than people in DC.

alternate take: people downtown are too busy with their downtown lives to be chasing kegs.  folks in the burbs are accustomed to driving everywhere for anything interesting, and generally lack stimulation so they get excited about... beer.

alternate take: no one cares about chasing below average haze that was worthwhile in 2019.

alternate take x 2: people are focusing on their waist sizes.

you didn't address the urban vs. suburban divide.  are you saying folks downtown are more focused on their physical appearance?  and folks in the burbs are still stuck chasing 3-year-old trends?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 25, 2022, 02:35:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 25, 2022, 02:08:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 25, 2022, 12:41:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 25, 2022, 12:26:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 25, 2022, 11:25:07 am
Quote from: Tico-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2022, 02:11:16 pm
Monkish Brewing Co.
 Four beers tapping throughout the week
 at Dominion in falls church

-‘Conscience Be Free’ DIPA (8.5% ABV)
-‘If It Fits’ IPA (6.9% ABV) “Double Dry Hopped (DDH) IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Enigma hops.”
-‘Realer Than Real’ TIPA (10.0% ABV) “Robust Triple IPA with Galaxy and Amarillo (Triple IPA version of Really Real & The Realness).”
-‘West Coast Classic’ West Coast IPA (7.0% ABV)

2.5 weeks after tapping six Monkish beers at Shelter, four of them are still on tap.

Same beers kicked just hours after being tapped at Dominion.

I think people in the burbs like craft beer more than people in DC.

alternate take: people downtown are too busy with their downtown lives to be chasing kegs.  folks in the burbs are accustomed to driving everywhere for anything interesting, and generally lack stimulation so they get excited about... beer.

alternate take: no one cares about chasing below average haze that was worthwhile in 2019.

alternate take x 2: people are focusing on their waist sizes.

you didn't address the urban vs. suburban divide.  are you saying folks downtown are more focused on their physical appearance?  and folks in the burbs are still stuck chasing 3-year-old trends?

My guess is Shelter has 50+ beers on tap with 40 of them being better than Monkish.

Dominion (a place i've never been and never will be to) probably has 22 haze lines.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 25, 2022, 02:50:31 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 25, 2022, 02:35:13 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 25, 2022, 02:08:10 pm
Quote from: Yada on August 25, 2022, 12:41:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on August 25, 2022, 12:26:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 25, 2022, 11:25:07 am
Quote from: Tico-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2022, 02:11:16 pm
Monkish Brewing Co.
 Four beers tapping throughout the week
 at Dominion in falls church

-‘Conscience Be Free’ DIPA (8.5% ABV)
-‘If It Fits’ IPA (6.9% ABV) “Double Dry Hopped (DDH) IPA with Nelson Sauvin and Enigma hops.”
-‘Realer Than Real’ TIPA (10.0% ABV) “Robust Triple IPA with Galaxy and Amarillo (Triple IPA version of Really Real & The Realness).”
-‘West Coast Classic’ West Coast IPA (7.0% ABV)

2.5 weeks after tapping six Monkish beers at Shelter, four of them are still on tap.

Same beers kicked just hours after being tapped at Dominion.

I think people in the burbs like craft beer more than people in DC.

alternate take: people downtown are too busy with their downtown lives to be chasing kegs.  folks in the burbs are accustomed to driving everywhere for anything interesting, and generally lack stimulation so they get excited about... beer.

alternate take: no one cares about chasing below average haze that was worthwhile in 2019.

alternate take x 2: people are focusing on their waist sizes.

you didn't address the urban vs. suburban divide.  are you saying folks downtown are more focused on their physical appearance?  and folks in the burbs are still stuck chasing 3-year-old trends?

My guess is Shelter has 50+ beers on tap with 40 of them being better than Monkish.

Dominion (a place i've never been and never will be to) probably has 22 haze lines.

I would estimate about 10 of the 35 lines at Dominion currently has something hazt.

14 of 50 beers at Shelter fall into their "hop" category, maybe 11 hazies?

I think you overestimate the beer quality at Shelter, or underestimate Monkish.

Another possible explanation was this was the first Monkish appearance in NoVA, whereas it's the second Monkish appearance in DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 01, 2022, 01:37:52 pm
Sapwood Cellars Brewery
Tickets for our Fourth Anniversary Party on October 1st are now available! It'll be a similar event to previous years, broken into three sessions with 10 special beers on tap (like Snip Snap Super Max, bourbon-barrel-aged stout cuvee with coffee and coffee cherries, and a barrel-aged sour with foraged green walnuts). Each ticket Includes a 4 oz pour of each beer, and a commemorative tasting glass that is yours to keep. We'll have food trucks, a Sapwood trivia contest (with vintage bottles as prizes), bottle/can release and more! Tickets: https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/fourth-anniversary-party-tickets/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 07, 2022, 05:03:26 pm
relevant to certain folk's interests:

Heineken buys out Led Zeppelin son’s craft brewery (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/09/07/heineken-buys-led-zeppelin-sons-craft-brewery/)
Logan Plant's Beavertown joins long list of British independents snapped up by beer giants
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 15, 2022, 06:12:41 pm
in case anyone wants a pint (bale?) of cringe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEOtjTcQVzo
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 16, 2022, 10:56:14 am
Bad news if you're a Harvest from the Hood fan.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/philadelphia-brewing-co-e2-80-99s-hop-garden-was-cut-down-by-city-cleaning-crew-who-thought-it-was-weeds/ar-AA11SGAM
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 16, 2022, 11:20:53 am
Has anyone been to Dirt Farm Brewing, in Bluemont?  I have, a gift card and have never been.  I have gone to the winery right up the road, which had killer views and decent wine, to boot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 16, 2022, 11:55:56 am
Quote from: Walk,on,by on September 16, 2022, 11:20:53 am
Has anyone been to Dirt Farm Brewing, in Bluemont?  I have, a gift card and have never been.  I have gone to the winery right up the road, which had killer views and decent wine, to boot.

I've been... Was on our way to Vanish one weekend until we saw about 10,000 people there so just kept going a bit down the road.... Beer is mediocre at best, but a nice place to hang out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 16, 2022, 12:18:34 pm
Quote from: Walk,on,by on September 16, 2022, 11:20:53 am
Has anyone been to Dirt Farm Brewing, in Bluemont?  I have, a gift card and have never been.  I have gone to the winery right up the road, which had killer views and decent wine to boot.

Please don't boot the wine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 16, 2022, 01:37:46 pm
Quote from: Off-season Santa on September 16, 2022, 12:18:34 pm
Quote from: Walk,on,by on September 16, 2022, 11:20:53 am
Has anyone been to Dirt Farm Brewing, in Bluemont?  I have, a gift card and have never been.  I have gone to the winery right up the road, which had killer views and decent wine to boot.

Please don't boot the wine.

potw
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 16, 2022, 01:48:35 pm
Lol.  And not shocked to hear about number of people there.  I plan on going, during a day when hopefully most Valley snob beer heads, will be at work.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on September 16, 2022, 02:16:32 pm
Beer prices up and up
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 16, 2022, 02:19:37 pm
Quote from: Walk,on,by on September 16, 2022, 01:48:35 pm
Lol.  And not shocked to hear about number of people there.  I plan on going, during a day when hopefully most Valley snob beer heads, will be at work.

My sentence was confusing.

10k people were at vanish, we said fuck that,  and drove to Dirt Brewing where about 13 people were.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 16, 2022, 02:26:33 pm
Quote from: Starsky on September 16, 2022, 02:16:32 pm
Beer prices up and up

interesting - what are you seeing in terms of beer prices? 

for me, beer prices have been relatively stable compared to a lot of other grocery items.  prices of meat and cheese have gone way up.  just this morning i bought some distilled water that used to cost $3.29 but price recently jumped to $4.99 (52% increase!).  i buy only craft beer from regional breweries (Georgetown, Fremont, etc.) so maybe they're more sensitive about raising prices?

(also, when is rustyorgan showing up to blame biden for beer prices?)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2022, 02:38:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 16, 2022, 02:26:33 pm
beer prices have been relatively stable
well since the avg beer at a bar went from $4 to $9 in the last ten years, they were already high
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on September 16, 2022, 02:39:39 pm
ITconsultants are clearly overpaid
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 16, 2022, 02:41:44 pm
Quote from: Special-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2022, 02:38:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 16, 2022, 02:26:33 pm
beer prices have been relatively stable
well since the avg beer at a bar went from $4 to $9 in the last ten years, they were already high

When I used to frequent bars... daily... from like 2002 to 2010, I don't recall a $4 beer in DC unless it was a dive and a pbR.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 16, 2022, 04:38:44 pm
Quote from: Yada on September 16, 2022, 02:41:44 pm
Quote from: Special-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2022, 02:38:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on September 16, 2022, 02:26:33 pm
beer prices have been relatively stable
well since the avg beer at a bar went from $4 to $9 in the last ten years, they were already high

When I used to frequent bars... daily... from like 2002 to 2010, I don't recall a $4 beer in DC unless it was a dive and a pbR.

or happy hour
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 19, 2022, 01:36:18 pm
I am going to Richmond for a few days, for work.  I may, if I am lucky, get to go to 1 brewery.  Which should it be?

I love sours, ipas of all kinds (still looking for another great black ipa) wilde ales and red lagers. Sometimes brown ales, but they better be excellent. 

Thanks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2022, 01:44:56 pm
Quote from: Walk,on,by on September 19, 2022, 01:36:18 pm
I am going to Richmond for a few days, for work.  I may, if I am lucky, get to go to 1 brewery.  Which should it be?

I love sours, ipas of all kinds (still looking for another great black ipa) wilde ales and red lagers. Sometimes brown ales, but they better be excellent. 

Thanks.
Veil or Triple Crossing is good IPAs. Sours I don’t know but people say Strangeways.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2022, 01:47:25 pm
Quote from: Walk,on,by on September 19, 2022, 01:36:18 pm
I am going to Richmond for a few days, for work.  I may, if I am lucky, get to go to 1 brewery.  Which should it be?

I love sours, ipas of all kinds (still looking for another great black ipa) wilde ales and red lagers. Sometimes brown ales, but they better be excellent. 

Thanks.

You should hit every brewery and consume 3oz at each one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 19, 2022, 01:51:12 pm
I expected, nothing less.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2022, 01:55:56 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on September 19, 2022, 01:44:56 pm
Quote from: Walk,on,by on September 19, 2022, 01:36:18 pm
I am going to Richmond for a few days, for work.  I may, if I am lucky, get to go to 1 brewery.  Which should it be?

I love sours, ipas of all kinds (still looking for another great black ipa) wilde ales and red lagers. Sometimes brown ales, but they better be excellent. 

Thanks.
Veil or Triple Crossing is good IPAs. Sours I don’t know but people say Strangeways.

Agree on Veil and Triple Crossing for IPA's.

If you're looking for crazy fruited smoothie sours, the answer is The Answer. Vasen and Veil would be a distant second.

If you're looking for *real* sours, ala Pen Druid, Tabol might be your best best. The Veil also does some excellent wild ales, and if you're there on a Friday night, the Veil Funkhaust location is the place to go. But they're only open on Fridays, and their other locations are most limited on the sours.

I once went to Strangeways (the one on Fredericksburg) for beer. And a second time for a Cracker show. I definitely wouldn't recommend any of  their beers.

And don't sleep on Mekong, where you can get some good Vietnamese food and the best draft list in Virginia.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2022, 02:02:25 pm
Beer aside, Mekong is delicious. It looks fucking disgusting location-wise but man, the Vietnamese food is so on-point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 19, 2022, 02:06:16 pm
Seeing how I have never had beer from Veil before, I will try to go there. Hopefully I will be able to find decent restaurants to hit as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2022, 02:15:21 pm
Quote from: Walk,on,by on September 19, 2022, 01:36:18 pm
(still looking for another great black ipa)
keep me posted as I'm always on the search 
Also look for schwarzbiers...as they are the OG black ipa (yes it's a lager and not that hoppy, but is nothing like a stout or a porter)

I think The Veil is the brewery to go to.  The Answer (mekong) is likely second (if not first) choice
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2022, 05:02:25 pm
Yada, here is your chance to make the beer you think 3 stars should have
https://dcbeer.com/2022/09/19/want-to-buy-a-brewery-3-stars-for-sale/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2022, 05:22:07 pm
Quote from: Special-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2022, 02:15:21 pm
Also look for schwarzbiers...as they are the OG black ipa (yes it's a lager and not that hoppy, but is nothing like a stout or a porter)

schwarzbiers aren't hoppy at all.  yes, they have a dark color, and they're not ashy/roasty/etc. like stouts or porters, so that's two things they have in common with black IPA... but that's it.  seeing as how the #1 characteristic of IPAs is hoppiness, i just can't put schwarzbiers and ipas in the same basket.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2022, 07:38:31 pm
I'm planning on brewing a schwartzbier this Fall/Winter. The style they most remind me of is the dunkel. Except it's less malty sweet and more roasty dry.


Sometimes called black lagers, they may remind some of German-style dunkels, but schwarzbiers are drier, darker and more roast-oriented.These very dark brown to black beers have a surprisingly pale-colored foam head (not excessively brown) with good cling quality. They have a mild roasted malt character without the associated bitterness. Malt flavor and aroma is at low to medium levels of sweetness.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 19, 2022, 07:43:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 19, 2022, 07:38:31 pm
good cling quality

I've never understood this about OTT beer reviews. Who gives a shit?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2022, 10:21:34 pm
It’s all about that lace


Also I said they are not hoppy and not an ale,  but I personally think if you like a black ipa, you will like a Schwartzbeir
Like, if you like a pils, you will likely enjoy a kolsch
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 21, 2022, 02:21:00 pm
i think i've found a beer that Space may be willing to drink more than 6 oz of, given the partners in this collab:


Downtown Crown Wine and Beer
Sept 18
  ·
#AllDMVEverything   
A top tier worldwide level brewery, in collaboration with two local beer beercentric destinations. DMV born and raised ownership and teams, paying homage to the beer scene right here in DC, Maryland, and Virginia. We proudly present:🔥 'All DMV Everything' Imperial IPA!!
😮 Dropping later this week 😮
🥶 Other Half Brewing Company collabo 🥶
Exclusive in MD @ Downtown Crown Wine and Beer www.downtowncrownwinestore.com (http://www.downtowncrownwinestore.com)
Exclusive in VA @ Dominion Wine and Beer www.dominionwineandbeerstore.com (http://www.dominionwineandbeerstore.com)


update: some actual info about the beer.  phantasm + thiolized yeast = cutting edge of IPAs...

"'All DMV Everything' Imperial IPA (8.0% ABV) "We teamed with our long time friends at Downtown Crown and Dominion to bring back our previous collab with a new twist. Like it's "DTC" predecessor we went with a soft Double IPA base hopped with Citra, Galaxy, Motueka, and Enigma. To take those tropical flavors even further, we added Phantasm and used a thiol-enhancing yeast strain. The result is an explosion of passion fruit, pineapple, lychee, and a hint of grapefruit."⁣
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 21, 2022, 09:33:36 pm
I would drink the shit outta that beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 21, 2022, 11:07:39 pm
If a flying ball, doesn't kill you, after drinking it = fail.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 25, 2022, 09:19:18 am
Spotted at Majestic Marketplace in Flagstaff, AZ: many fourpacks of Singlecut IPA's dated December 2020. Much of their IPA stock seems to be six months old or more.

Is that what they mean by aging your beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 26, 2022, 10:46:09 am
Speaking of IPAs . . . over the weekend, I went to a cute Craft Festival in WV! It was great weather and so wonderful to be out and about with incredible crafts / artwork for sale; plus, the various junk crap that was scattered amongst the aisles.  I am convinced that women have the best times at these things, with so much jewelry and clothes and beeswax candles and handmade wreaths with frilly foo foo stuff.

After about an hour, we got awesome beef-mexi bowls from a truck and sat in shaded bliss, listening to actual killer, live ole-time bluegrass music. They had a beer tent and two cute, local winery tents . . . so I went to get a beer, and they had a BLACK IPA!!!! I thought, too funny after just speaking about it here. 

It was damn incredible, and it was called Greenbrier Valley Brewing  Mothman Black IPA.  i am on the hunt!

The, end.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 26, 2022, 11:06:38 am
they've got some great art work on their cans...I think I've had mothman, I want to try batboy
(https://aceraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bgDorTpw-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 26, 2022, 11:09:48 am
Hope they licensed Bat Boys visage from Weekly World News.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 26, 2022, 11:15:14 am
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on September 26, 2022, 11:09:48 am
Hope they licensed Bat Boys visage from Weekly World News.
doubt it, but they should

and there is this It ceased print publication in August 2007

the plot thickens and Bat Boy LLC will be sending the cease and desist
In October 2008, Bat Boy L.L.C., a company started by Neil McGinness, bought WWN.[33] It was relaunched as an online-only publication in 2009. In January 2011, the Weekly World News was made available via an online paid subscription
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 01:45:36 pm
Got invited to a work social gathering at Denizens and of course I'll go....but there are at least a couple of better brewery options in Silver Spring in terms of beer quality, right?

I ask having never been to any of them, I just recall you guys talking about Silver Spring beer long ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on October 03, 2022, 01:56:17 pm
Oh yea we rawked silver springs pre ween

Some place on Georgia ave
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2022, 02:03:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 01:45:36 pm
Got invited to a work social gathering at Denizens and of course I'll go....but there are at least a couple of better brewery options in Silver Spring in terms of beer quality, right?

I ask having never been to any of them, I just recall you guys talking about Silver Spring beer long ago.
Astro Lab (not that far a walk from Denizens) and Silver branch.  AL is one of my area favs.  SB has gotten some great reviews, but I don't like it as much
AL  was the Pre-ween meetup spot
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:31:34 pm
Hard to believe space isn't familiar,  but it sounds like your questions have been answered.

I for one haven't been a denizen of denizens since approximately 2015.

Edit: why are people that work in a gov office in southwest DC venturing to silver springs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 03, 2022, 02:38:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:31:34 pm
Edit: why are people that work in a gov office in southwest DC venturing to silver springs.
Do you not have an office job? Post-work events are always based around where the C-suite member who is “overseeing organizing” it lives not where the office is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:42:33 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on October 03, 2022, 02:38:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:31:34 pm
Edit: why are people that work in a gov office in southwest DC venturing to silver springs.
Do you not have an office job? Post-work events are always based around where the C-suite member who is “overseeing organizing” it lives not where the office is.

I haven't worked in an office since probably 2015...however, any "work" events I attend are generally around where ever the office is located.

Also, do GS workers have C-Suite employees?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 02:45:47 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on October 03, 2022, 02:38:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:31:34 pm
Edit: why are people that work in a gov office in southwest DC venturing to silver springs.
Do you not have an office job? Post-work events are always based around where the C-suite member who is “overseeing organizing” it lives not where the office is.

Ding ding ding. Winning answer to Yada's question. Thoguh I don't know what a C-Suite is.

We haven't been in the office since the start of the pandemic. Nobody went back.

And thanks to Hatch and Yada for updating me on the Silver Spring beer scene. I have actually never been to any of the Silver Spring breweries, but what Hatch said seems to be what I would have guessed based on previous stuff I read here and elsewhere.

Shame they didn't pick Astrolab. It seems like unless someone is a beer snob, they always inevitably pick the worst place beerwise. Maybe Denizens is the most kid and dog friendly, which based on the invite seemed to be things that mattered?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:51:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 02:45:47 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on October 03, 2022, 02:38:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:31:34 pm
Edit: why are people that work in a gov office in southwest DC venturing to silver springs.
Do you not have an office job? Post-work events are always based around where the C-suite member who is “overseeing organizing” it lives not where the office is.

Ding ding ding. Winning answer to Yada's question. Thoguh I don't know what a C-Suite is.

We haven't been in the office since the start of the pandemic. Nobody went back.

And thanks to Hatch and Yada for updating me on the Silver Spring beer scene. I have actually never been to any of the Silver Spring breweries, but what Hatch said seems to be what I would have guessed based on previous stuff I read here and elsewhere.

Shame they didn't pick Astrolab. It seems like unless someone is a beer snob, they always inevitably pick the worst place beerwise. Maybe Denizens is the most kid and dog friendly, which based on the invite seemed to be things that mattered?

Once again, can't comment since I haven't been in 8 years, but 8 years ago it was baby friendly as in my child could sit in their stroller and stare at me as I drank their terrible beer.

If you can split off post event, you should have 3 to 9oz at Astrolab. It's about a football field or two length up the street... And then get underground pizza company across the street.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 03, 2022, 02:55:53 pm
UPC is good if that's the kind of thing you like. Hidden gem is the Angry Jerk across the street. Fast casual Jamaican / Caribbean food. Stellar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 02:57:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:51:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 02:45:47 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on October 03, 2022, 02:38:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:31:34 pm
Edit: why are people that work in a gov office in southwest DC venturing to silver springs.
Do you not have an office job? Post-work events are always based around where the C-suite member who is “overseeing organizing” it lives not where the office is.

Ding ding ding. Winning answer to Yada's question. Thoguh I don't know what a C-Suite is.

We haven't been in the office since the start of the pandemic. Nobody went back.

And thanks to Hatch and Yada for updating me on the Silver Spring beer scene. I have actually never been to any of the Silver Spring breweries, but what Hatch said seems to be what I would have guessed based on previous stuff I read here and elsewhere.

Shame they didn't pick Astrolab. It seems like unless someone is a beer snob, they always inevitably pick the worst place beerwise. Maybe Denizens is the most kid and dog friendly, which based on the invite seemed to be things that mattered?

Once again, can't comment since I haven't been in 8 years, but 8 years ago it was baby friendly as in my child could sit in their stroller and stare at me as I drank their terrible beer.

If you can split off post event, you should have 3 to 9oz at Astrolab. It's about a football field or two length up the street... And then get underground pizza company across the street.

Thanks. Yeah, I'd love to check out Astrolab. I'll see if the family members and dogs who choose to attend with me can be talked into an Astrolab visit as well.

Not really sure I want to see any beers that day, as it's the day after Snallygaster.

It will mark the first time seeing some of my coworkers in person since March 2020. And meeting some who have come on board for the first time since then in person.

They'll get to see me on the one day I'll be hungover this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 03, 2022, 02:58:57 pm
*Astrolab is dog-friendly too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 03:04:55 pm
Quote from: grateful on October 03, 2022, 02:58:57 pm
*Astrolab is dog-friendly too

I've got one of those dogs who acts like a human toddler at a brewery and causes people to say they hate it when kids are at breweries. Haven't tried to bring him to a brewery in amny years. But maybe he would be more chill now that he's 14.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 03, 2022, 03:06:36 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 02:57:50 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:51:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 02:45:47 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on October 03, 2022, 02:38:27 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 03, 2022, 02:31:34 pm
Edit: why are people that work in a gov office in southwest DC venturing to silver springs.
Do you not have an office job? Post-work events are always based around where the C-suite member who is “overseeing organizing” it lives not where the office is.

Ding ding ding. Winning answer to Yada's question. Thoguh I don't know what a C-Suite is.

We haven't been in the office since the start of the pandemic. Nobody went back.

And thanks to Hatch and Yada for updating me on the Silver Spring beer scene. I have actually never been to any of the Silver Spring breweries, but what Hatch said seems to be what I would have guessed based on previous stuff I read here and elsewhere.

Shame they didn't pick Astrolab. It seems like unless someone is a beer snob, they always inevitably pick the worst place beerwise. Maybe Denizens is the most kid and dog friendly, which based on the invite seemed to be things that mattered?

Once again, can't comment since I haven't been in 8 years, but 8 years ago it was baby friendly as in my child could sit in their stroller and stare at me as I drank their terrible beer.

If you can split off post event, you should have 3 to 9oz at Astrolab. It's about a football field or two length up the street... And then get underground pizza company across the street.

Thanks. Yeah, I'd love to check out Astrolab. I'll see if the family members and dogs who choose to attend with me can be talked into an Astrolab visit as well.

Not really sure I want to see any beers that day, as it's the day after Snallygaster.

It will mark the first time seeing some of my coworkers in person since March 2020. And meeting some who have come on board for the first time since then in person.

They'll get to see me on the one day I'll be hungover this year.

hahaha... ooof! That hurts... Well, at least you can sit outside at Denizens and get fresh air if you're hungover. I wouldn't recommend Astrolab for a large group and definitely wouldn't bring your dog there even if it's dog friendly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 03, 2022, 03:06:41 pm
“C-Suite” is a term from the class of executives at the top of a company whose titles generally start with Chief and end with Officer. CEO, CFO, COO, etc.

Admittedly, I doubt these titles are used in government work but the principle remains the same: where does the boss live? The event will be near there or halfway between the office and there, never further away from the boss’ residence/hotel than the office. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2022, 03:15:25 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on October 03, 2022, 03:06:41 pm
“C-Suite” is a term from the class of executives at the top of a company whose titles generally start with Chief and end with Officer. CEO, CFO, COO, etc.

Admittedly, I doubt these titles are used in government work but the principle remains the same: where does the boss live? The event will be near there or halfway between the office and there, never further away from the boss’ residence/hotel than the office.

Ah gotcha. Our equivalent of a CEO lives in a location that I'm pretty sure would be more incovenient for most people. (Silver Spring having at least a Metro stop.) The person doing the organizing is more or less a plebe just like me but I think they do live in SS.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2022, 03:38:09 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on October 03, 2022, 03:06:41 pm
“C-Suite” is a term from the class of executives at the top of a company whose titles generally start with Chief and end with Officer. CEO, CFO, COO, etc.

Admittedly, I doubt these titles are used in government work but the principle remains the same: where does the boss live? The event will be near there or halfway between the office and there, never further away from the boss’ residence/hotel than the office.
So I'm pretty sure Space isn't a Gov't employee, but works for a Firm that does business with the Feds
and I'm sure they have a bunch of C-suite staff, likely a woman minority who is the President, but only has people magazines on her desk
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 03, 2022, 04:02:45 pm
Quote from: King of hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2022, 03:38:09 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on October 03, 2022, 03:06:41 pm
“C-Suite” is a term from the class of executives at the top of a company whose titles generally start with Chief and end with Officer. CEO, CFO, COO, etc.

Admittedly, I doubt these titles are used in government work but the principle remains the same: where does the boss live? The event will be near there or halfway between the office and there, never further away from the boss’ residence/hotel than the office.
So I'm pretty sure Space isn't a Gov't employee, but works for a Firm that does business with the Feds
and I'm sure they have a bunch of C-suite staff, likely a woman minority who is the President, but only has people magazines on her desk

Denizen's is woman/minority owned, so this tracks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2022, 04:52:55 pm
Quote from: grateful on October 03, 2022, 04:02:45 pm
Denizen's is woman/minority owned, so this tracks.
that was in reference to all the Beltway "consulting" firms that apply for federal contracts
I've worked with enough of them to know, most of them scamming the feds

The SBA states that “the federal government's goal is to award at least five percent of all federal contracting dollars to women-owned small businesses each year.”
there is another one for Minority owned ones too
there are a few categories...and lots of money on the line


I think the intent of the program is admirable
the execution and vetting is pathetic and most of these firms are in fact owned by some old white male who installs his wife or some other unqualified person to be president but only on the letter head, not in actually running of the company


Props to Denizen's, but there is no program for beer producers to get special access to gov't pork
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 03, 2022, 06:39:49 pm
Quote from: King of hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2022, 03:38:09 pm
So I'm pretty sure Space isn't a Gov't employee, but works for a Firm that does business with the Feds

unless he's changed jobs and hasn't told us, Space is gov-employed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 03, 2022, 06:41:29 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 03, 2022, 06:39:49 pm
Quote from: King of hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2022, 03:38:09 pm
So I'm pretty sure Space isn't a Gov't employee, but works for a Firm that does business with the Feds

unless he's changed jobs and hasn't told us, Space is gov-employed.
Believe me, we’d know. He’s never stop talking about and his new PTO schedule.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2022, 10:54:53 pm
I know little, but say a lot
can't believe all of it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2022, 01:49:41 pm
The Brazilian Art of Drinking a Beer ‘In the Ass’ (https://thetakeout.com/drink-cerveja-na-bundinha-brazil-tiktok-beer-salt-lime-1849594743)

no, not boofing.  sorry not sorry.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 04, 2022, 02:01:46 pm
Speaking of Brazil and beer...the last time we were at Chruchkey we shared a highly rated DIPA from the highly rated Spartacus Brewery in Brazil.  https://untappd.com/brewery/top_rated?country=brazil It wasn't very good. A sample of one, but maybe the locals are rating their hometown beers too high.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2022, 02:17:45 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 04, 2022, 02:01:46 pm
A sample of one, but maybe the locals are rating their hometown beers too high.

or, the beer wasn't in a good state.  did it spend several weeks in a hot container on the deck of a cargo ship?  how old was the can?

i share your desire to try beers from other parts of the world, but IPA isn't a style i'd choose.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on October 04, 2022, 10:13:34 pm
Ha ha IPA 🍺 in South America!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2022, 02:09:11 pm
Weekend beer roundup:

Snallygaster was fun, even with just the basic ticket. Lots of good beers.

Denizens and Astro Lab were about what you guys said they would be.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2022, 02:12:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 12, 2022, 02:09:11 pm
Weekend beer roundup:

Snallygaster was fun, even with just the basic ticket. Lots of good beers.

so when you go to these fests, do you drink only 8oz of beer total?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2022, 02:15:34 pm
Quote from: King of hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2022, 02:12:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 12, 2022, 02:09:11 pm
Weekend beer roundup:

Snallygaster was fun, even with just the basic ticket. Lots of good beers.

so when you go to these fests, do you drink only 8oz of beer total?

More like 4 ounces, shared. If it's really good, I go grab a second four ounce pour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2022, 02:29:45 pm
funny, when I pay like $50 to go to one of these fests, I make sure I drink about 60oz of beer minimum
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on October 12, 2022, 02:32:43 pm
Seems like that would be the way….
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2022, 02:44:32 pm
wow, the brew shop in arlington just got some interesting cans
Tilted Barn Brewery
• The Other One double IPA
• Violet IPA
• Lawn Boy barn lager
• Summit pale ale
• Libby with Simcoe blonde ale

Surprise! Cans from The Answer Brewpub :
• Living Your Zest Life Kolsch with lemon and lime (collab with our friends Reverie Distribution)
• Sandusky City Water light lager (collab with CLAG Brewing Company from Sandusky, Ohio)

Bissell Brothers
• The Substance IPA
• Reciprocal Double IPA with 100% Australian hops
• Lux all-Mosaic pale ale
Welcoming @fastfashionbee
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2022, 02:57:13 pm
Quote from: King of hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2022, 02:29:45 pm
funny, when I pay like $50 to go to one of these fests, I make sure I drink about 60oz of beer minimum

It was $65 and I drank my fair share. I don't really keep ttrack of how much I consume.

The way I look at it is...$65 is the same as $50 in a bar when you factor in tax and tip. You're drinking 4 ounce pours of premium beers, which can run you $4-$7 at Churchkey. So you probably need to consume about 30-50 ounces to break even.

The beauty of Snallygaster is that you have 400+ beers to choose from, far more than you do at any craft beer bar. Many of them from breweries that you just don't see on an everyday basis, even in beer rich DC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2022, 03:00:39 pm
Quote from: King of hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2022, 02:44:32 pm
wow, the brew shop in arlington just got some interesting cans
Tilted Barn Brewery
• The Other One double IPA
• Violet IPA
• Lawn Boy barn lager
• Summit pale ale
• Libby with Simcoe blonde ale

Surprise! Cans from The Answer Brewpub :
• Living Your Zest Life Kolsch with lemon and lime (collab with our friends Reverie Distribution)
• Sandusky City Water light lager (collab with CLAG Brewing Company from Sandusky, Ohio)

Bissell Brothers
• The Substance IPA
• Reciprocal Double IPA with 100% Australian hops
• Lux all-Mosaic pale ale
Welcoming @fastfashionbee

I have cans of The Other One sitting in my fridge, but I haven't had one. They were also pouring it at Snallygaster but I don't remember if I had it.

Reciprocal and Substance are top notch.

Fun fact: The owner of the Answer, An Bui, is the brother of the owner of CLAG. Hence, the collaboration.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on October 12, 2022, 03:02:01 pm
So you got drunk. Admit it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2022, 03:31:33 pm
Quote from: Starsky on October 12, 2022, 03:02:01 pm
So you got drunk. Admit it!

When did I say I didn't?

The good thing about drinking from 2-6 is you sleep through the worst of the hangover. I was completely fine when i go up in the morning. Or maybe it means I don't get as drunk as I did in my youth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 19, 2022, 03:47:44 pm
There's a couple of DIPA's and one TIPA from hot shit hazy brewer Fiden's on tap right now at Other Half DC.

Buyer beware though, they want $14-$15 for a full pour and $6-$7 for a four (five?) ounce pour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 26, 2022, 07:45:14 pm
"new" brewery alert: Lost Generation Brewing Company is having its grand opening this saturday (although it appears they're already open for business...).  located in the no-mans-land that is the area between NoMa-Gallaudet and Rhode Island metro stops on the red line, and a 10 minute drive to the clarb.  2 of the 4 owners/founders/brewers are women, if that matters to you. 

https://www.lostgenbrewing.com/
https://www.facebook.com/lostgenbrewing
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 26, 2022, 08:06:45 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 26, 2022, 07:45:14 pm
"new" brewery alert: Lost Generation Brewing Company is having its grand opening this saturday (although it appears they're already open for business...).  located in the no-mans-land that is the area between NoMa-Gallaudet and Rhode Island metro stops on the red line, and a 10 minute drive to the clarb.  2 of the 4 owners/founders/brewers are women, if that matters to you. 

https://www.lostgenbrewing.com/
https://www.facebook.com/lostgenbrewing

Two-thirds of the founders of Denizens were women.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 26, 2022, 11:59:18 pm
in case anyone is so uncool as to still care about BCBS: https://www.binnys.com/blog/post/bourbon-county-stout-2022-preview---barrel-to-bottle-samples-the-full-slate
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2022, 09:45:36 am
Quote from: sweetcell on October 26, 2022, 11:59:18 pm
in case anyone is so uncool as to still care about BCBS: https://www.binnys.com/blog/post/bourbon-county-stout-2022-preview---barrel-to-bottle-samples-the-full-slate

Coffee is back after a five year absence. I may have to seek out a pour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2022, 01:28:54 pm
this looks fun
(https://www.silverbranchbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/ENDLESS_ODYSSEY_WEB-600x450.png)
although $35 is kinda pricy for two beers

Edit...little more
Ticket includes: a six-beer stout flight, two full pours of CHRONICLE and ENDLESS ODYSSEY, light snacks and an evening with two of the greatest minds in brewing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 04, 2022, 05:17:55 pm
Quote from: SoldMyPoll4RnR ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2022, 01:28:54 pm
this looks fun
(https://www.silverbranchbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/ENDLESS_ODYSSEY_WEB-600x450.png)
although $35 is kinda pricy for two beers

Edit...little more
Ticket includes: a six-beer stout flight, two full pours of CHRONICLE and ENDLESS ODYSSEY, light snacks and an evening with two of the greatest minds in brewing.

who are the two minds?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 06, 2022, 07:01:44 pm
Just popped in to BabyCat. Very chill, relaxed vibe...crowded for a Sunday night. Maybe its the opening surge. Will definitely return. Beer is quite serviceable but nothing special.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 07, 2022, 11:34:15 am
Quote from: Space Freely on November 04, 2022, 05:17:55 pm
who are the two minds?
apparently people want to hear what they have to say as they are doing it a churchkey too
November 16 @ 7:00 pm – 9:00 pm
Join ChurchKey on Wednesday, November 16th, for a book signing and panel discussion hosted by Ronald Pattinson, world-renowned beer historian and travel writer. Pattinson will be presenting excerpts from four of his books (Armistice! Brewing in WW I, The Home Brewer’s Guide to Vintage Beer, Mild! and Strong!). Each book will also be available for purchase. To celebrate this occasion, we will also be featuring 20 oz. pours of all cask beers for $5!
Pattinson is widely considered the quintessential authority on historical beer. He has authored over 60 books about beer, including classics such as, “The Home Brewer’s Guide to Vintage Beer: Rediscovered Recipes for Classic Brews Dating from 1800 to 1965”, “Lager!”, “Decoction!”, and the “1909 Beer Style Guide”. He also continues to update his popular blog, “Shut Up About Barclay Perkins”.
Joining us as a moderator for the panel discussion will be Michael Stein, a noted local educator, brewer, author, and historian. Stein is President of Lost Lagers, DC’s premier beverage research firm; Senior Staff Writer at DCBeer.com; a James Beard Media Award Finalist; and a North American Guild of Beer Writers award winner.
The panel discussion begins in ChurchKey at 7 PM. There is no admission fee for this event. Seating is available on a first-come, first-serve basis.
https://dcbeer.com/.../an-evening-with-beer-historian.../
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 08, 2022, 09:06:48 am
Not going, but hot brewery list.

(https://scontent.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/314954354_1693822131013520_3232400151452783222_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=0N7r5eqYLLwAX9XuUsi&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-5.fna&oh=00_AfD8mvKWyUjnswV-s9ZKBpaZq68-ryhK7a6W7w3aIzTtMw&oe=636F32A3)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 08, 2022, 11:23:36 am
2022 Maryland Craft Beer Competition Results  (https://marylandbeer.org/2022-md-craft-beer-competition-results-2/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 08, 2022, 12:29:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 08, 2022, 09:06:48 am
Not going, but hot brewery list.

(https://scontent.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/314954354_1693822131013520_3232400151452783222_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=0N7r5eqYLLwAX9XuUsi&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-5.fna&oh=00_AfD8mvKWyUjnswV-s9ZKBpaZq68-ryhK7a6W7w3aIzTtMw&oe=636F32A3)
Bunch of Azahgal hoborock bands. Never heard of any of these guys. Pass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 08, 2022, 12:38:00 pm
LOL ^
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2022, 02:22:41 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 08, 2022, 12:29:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 08, 2022, 09:06:48 am
Not going, but hot brewery list.

(https://scontent.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/314954354_1693822131013520_3232400151452783222_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=0N7r5eqYLLwAX9XuUsi&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-5.fna&oh=00_AfD8mvKWyUjnswV-s9ZKBpaZq68-ryhK7a6W7w3aIzTtMw&oe=636F32A3)
Bunch of Azahgal hoborock bands. Never heard of any of these guys. Pass.

you're just jealous because you discovered them so late in the game.  i was into them before they tapped their first commercial keg.

(LOL indeed!)

on a vaguely more serious note: which of these breweries would you be lining up for?  what's the latest hotness?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 08, 2022, 03:29:47 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 08, 2022, 02:22:41 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 08, 2022, 12:29:01 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 08, 2022, 09:06:48 am
Not going, but hot brewery list.

(https://scontent.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/314954354_1693822131013520_3232400151452783222_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=0N7r5eqYLLwAX9XuUsi&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-5.fna&oh=00_AfD8mvKWyUjnswV-s9ZKBpaZq68-ryhK7a6W7w3aIzTtMw&oe=636F32A3)
Bunch of Azahgal hoborock bands. Never heard of any of these guys. Pass.

you're just jealous because you discovered them so late in the game.  i was into them before they tapped their first commercial keg.

(LOL indeed!)

on a vaguely more serious note: which of these breweries would you be lining up for?  what's the latest hotness?

I don't know about lining up for anything, but it is a quality list. I count 17 of them whose taprooms I've visited.

I'm willing to bet the worst on that list is Vanish.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 09, 2022, 02:08:14 am
my little town with a population of under 8,000 has one brewery.  i love the place, it's a great hangout, i always bump into folks that i know no matter when i drop in.  definitely has a small-town vibe.  they make mostly hoppy beers (excellent!) and have at least one sour on tap so this camper is always happy with their selection.  they opened just before the pandemic but someone managed to pull through.  the main brewer is a delightful guy and is always generous with me (gives me yeast, tastes from barrels, etc.). 

so i was overjoyed when i learned that this past weekend, at the annual Washington State Beer Awards, our little local beer-making joint won a gold medal for their berliner weisse (https://www.facebook.com/VolitionBrewing/posts/pfbid02faS3ixB35VMWTd7cyB9m2JHAtEM2NdUV6KCd7fASWiAk1qJ2EMT9qVk4rmyaQ2Stl) ;D  our little baby, all grown up...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 11, 2022, 06:04:50 pm
One cent beers for all veterans today at Cushwa. Only the first one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 06:07:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 11, 2022, 06:04:50 pm
One cent beers for all veterans today at Cushwa. Only the first one.
come back in with a new disguise each time
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 11, 2022, 06:30:54 pm
Quote from: SoldMyPoll4RnR ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 06:07:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 11, 2022, 06:04:50 pm
One cent beers for all veterans today at Cushwa. Only the first one.
come back in with a new disguise each time
Just keep cycling thru different branches of service uniforms. Stolen valor and stolen beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 11, 2022, 06:48:44 pm
Quote from: SoldMyPoll4RnR ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 06:07:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 11, 2022, 06:04:50 pm
One cent beers for all veterans today at Cushwa. Only the first one.
come back in with a new disguise each time

Going there tomorrow, after a family hike. Thankfully the offer is today only, so won't be as crowded. So I hope.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 07:14:13 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 11, 2022, 06:30:54 pm
Quote from: SoldMyPoll4RnR ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 06:07:39 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 11, 2022, 06:04:50 pm
One cent beers for all veterans today at Cushwa. Only the first one.
come back in with a new disguise each time
Just keep cycling thru different branches of service uniforms. Stolen valor and stolen beer.
And the coup de grâce for your 5th beer would be showing up in a Space Force uniform

In all seriousness, happy veteran’s day
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 11, 2022, 07:27:08 pm
Merchants marines FTW
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 07:54:40 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 11, 2022, 07:27:08 pm
Merchants marines FTW
that a branch I don’t really get
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 11, 2022, 08:46:44 pm
sapwood are releasing two imp stouts this weekend, can be pre-ordered online (https://sapwoodcellars.com/product/stout-bottle-release-11-12-11-13/) for pickup:

BSCM (Limit 2): 11.5% Imperial Stout aged in Wilderness Trail Bourbon and Old Elk Wheated Whiskey barrels with Coconut and Masala Chai (Cardamom, Cinnamon, Ginger, Nutmeg, Black Pepper, and Vanilla Beans)

Timestream: This is the second batch (and first in bottles) of our classic, roasty, Imperial Stout. Brewed in June, bottled in July, and aged to round out the rough edges.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 11, 2022, 10:42:58 pm
Quote from: Salad-Hatch. ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 07:54:40 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 11, 2022, 07:27:08 pm
Merchants marines FTW
that a branch I don’t really get
[insert seamen joke here]
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2022, 02:34:51 pm
rando question: anyone tried Saga Brewing, from Columbia MD?

DTC just posted pix of their latest drop, and the image with three Sage beers looks both pretty and potentially tasty: a barleywine, a triple hazy and a mochaccino BBA stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 17, 2022, 03:15:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 17, 2022, 02:34:51 pm
rando question: anyone tried Saga Brewing, from Columbia MD?

DTC just posted pix of their latest drop, and the image with three Sage beers looks both pretty and potentially tasty: a barleywine, a triple hazy and a mochaccino BBA stout.

Sounds tasty. Apparently they don't even have a taproom yet. https://www.sagabrews.com/about-us

I propose they open one in Springfield, VA because I only ever make it to Columbia when I go to a Meriweather show.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2022, 03:22:50 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 17, 2022, 03:15:30 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on November 17, 2022, 02:34:51 pm
rando question: anyone tried Saga Brewing, from Columbia MD?

DTC just posted pix of their latest drop, and the image with three Sage beers looks both pretty and potentially tasty: a barleywine, a triple hazy and a mochaccino BBA stout.

Sounds tasty. Apparently they don't even have a taproom yet. https://www.sagabrews.com/about-us

I propose they open one in Springfield, VA because I only ever make it to Columbia when I go to a Meriweather show.
If you imbibe too much before or after a show out there, consider staying at MERRIWEATHER LAKEHOUSE, a proud member of Marriott Bonvoy’s Autograph Collection, located within a half-mile walk of Merriweather Post Pavilion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 21, 2022, 04:54:32 pm
early release for Hopslam...and no one cares
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 21, 2022, 05:03:45 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 21, 2022, 04:54:32 pm
early release for Hopslam...and no one cares
Speak for yourself. Hopslam available for the Ohio State/Michigan game? Julian may die. (And Sweetcell will no doubt show up momentarily to tell me everyone hopes I do.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2022, 05:15:56 pm
Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 21, 2022, 05:03:45 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 21, 2022, 04:54:32 pm
early release for Hopslam...and no one cares
Speak for yourself. Hopslam available for the Ohio State/Michigan game? Julian may die. (And Sweetcell will no doubt show up momentarily to tell me everyone hopes I do.)
although we are all rooting for a long slow painful one, if it's just in one day, that's really not the desired result
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 25, 2022, 08:12:55 pm
I mean, wutthafuggahyagonnado?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 28, 2022, 05:42:09 pm
Probably too pedestrian for you beer connoisseurs but I love this year's Celebration Ale from Sierra Nevada!   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 28, 2022, 05:51:48 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 28, 2022, 05:42:09 pm
Probably too pedestrian for you beer connoisseurs but I love this year's Celebration Ale from Sierra Nevada!   

i didn't like it.  too caramel-y, too malty, too little fresh-hop flavor/aroma.  but awesome that it worked for you- different strokes and whatnot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 28, 2022, 06:10:06 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 28, 2022, 05:42:09 pm
Probably too pedestrian for you beer connoisseurs but I love this year's Celebration Ale from Sierra Nevada!

I haven't tried this year's release, however, I typically Celebrete the Celebration Ale.

In other news...

Admittedly I have no reference point, but stopped at a random store today at lunch and HOLY SHIT the BCBS prices were through the roof.

All variants were $34.99 a bottle, the Bookers/basil hayden variant was $54.99, and a four pack of the 12oz were $49.99.

Hardest pass I've done in a LOOOOONG time.

Is that normal pricing everywhere else??

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 28, 2022, 06:40:29 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 28, 2022, 06:10:06 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 28, 2022, 05:42:09 pm
Probably too pedestrian for you beer connoisseurs but I love this year's Celebration Ale from Sierra Nevada!

I haven't tried this year's release, however, I typically Celebrete the Celebration Ale.

In other news...

Admittedly I have no reference point, but stopped at a random store today at lunch and HOLY SHIT the BCBS prices were through the roof.

All variants were $34.99 a bottle, the Bookers/basil hayden variant was $54.99, and a four pack of the 12oz were $49.99.

Hardest pass I've done in a LOOOOONG time.

Is that normal pricing everywhere else??

Total Wine is about as cheap as they come. Just checked their website. 25 for Coffee and Biscotti, 40 for Barlerwine and Anniversary.  No listing for Regular, but I think I heard 13. I haven't bought any. Might pick up a single Regular at some point.

Aslin put out eight Black Friday beers, all barrel aged stouts. I must confess since the place is less than 15 mins from my house, I went three consecutive days and had a full pour each time. Wife went one of the times and got one, so I tried four of the eight.  At 12 bucks for a full pour,  I'm guessing the price point was pretty good compared to whatever the bottle price is (I didn't check.) No complaints on the beers, they were excellent.... though I stayed away from the two that were Pappy aged followed by Apple Brandy aged.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 28, 2022, 08:18:55 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 28, 2022, 05:42:09 pm
Probably too pedestrian for you beer connoisseurs but I love this year's Celebration Ale from Sierra Nevada!
I actually had it at the sierra Nevada in Asheville ( well by the airport) and thought it was pretty good
But I have to agree with sweets, little too malty, felt like it overpowered the hops
I loved their swartizbier
That brewery is quite impressive although really not my thing
But a giant piece of land with some nice views
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on November 29, 2022, 11:38:58 am
Quote from: sweetcell on November 28, 2022, 05:51:48 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 28, 2022, 05:42:09 pm
Probably too pedestrian for you beer connoisseurs but I love this year's Celebration Ale from Sierra Nevada!   

i didn't like it.  too caramel-y, too malty, too little fresh-hop flavor/aroma.  but awesome that it worked for you- different strokes and whatnot.

Ha!  Yes, indeed.  That's actually why I like it so much (the caramel malt)… I think it's very well rounded.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on December 02, 2022, 01:45:33 pm
anyone try this?     https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/265657/?ba=Skabiski
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 02, 2022, 02:31:30 pm
Quote from: Bagley on December 02, 2022, 01:45:33 pm
anyone try this?     https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/265657/?ba=Skabiski

I think i had a bottle when it initially came out. I don't recall clamoring for a second one.  Backwoods Bastard wad tasty back in the day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 07, 2022, 10:56:35 am
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 17, 2022, 03:31:15 am
thru tomorrow night, Sat Dec 17, the Neighborhood Restaurant Group is having a 50% bonus sale on gift certificates (https://www.giftrocker.com/secure/Order/?h=5d979223&utm_source=Birch+%26+Barley+%2B+ChurchKey): buy a $50 cert, get a bonus $25; buy $100, get an extra $50, etc.  if you know you're going to spend money at Churchkey/Birch and Barley, the Sovereign, etc., why not get 50% free by buying in advance?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 17, 2022, 08:54:53 am
Quote from: sweetcell on December 17, 2022, 03:31:15 am
thru tomorrow night, Sat Dec 17, the Neighborhood Restaurant Group is having a 50% bonus sale on gift certificates (https://www.giftrocker.com/secure/Order/?h=5d979223&utm_source=Birch+%26+Barley+%2B+ChurchKey): buy a $50 cert, get a bonus $25; buy $100, get an extra $50, etc.  if you know you're going to spend money at Churchkey/Birch and Barley, the Sovereign, etc., why not get 50% free by buying in advance?

Thay sounds great. I wonder if there is sn expiration date?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 21, 2022, 06:44:04 pm
Anyone have a take on this pub pass?

https://getpubpass.com/collections/washington-dc-2023

$25 and you get 1 free beer in 25 different breweries in the dc area

Still should leave a tip, but even if you only go to 4 seems like it would be worth it
Yada don’t even look

only negative from me is no VA brewries, and 1/4 are in balt
also doubled up on a few breweries with multiple locations...so really only 21

I could see this being a good deal if you are visiting a city and wanted to hit a bunch of breweries and weren't concerned you might loose street cred for not hitting the best of the best
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 22, 2022, 09:33:08 am
We made our second ever visit to Sapwood Cellars yesterday. And with apologies to Cushwa, Elder Pine, and all the others not in the top 3 (many of which, admittedly I haven't visited or had a beer from), Sapwood is the clear winner for best brewery in Maryland. Now, if they could only open a taphouse on some farmland closer to my house.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 22, 2022, 09:49:18 am
Quote from: Space Freely on December 22, 2022, 09:33:08 am
. Now, if they could only open a taphouse on some farmland closer to my house.
I support this
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on December 23, 2022, 04:06:40 pm
Leveller Brewing Co. opened in Weaverville (north of Asheville) on Main Street.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 09, 2023, 11:41:28 am
Brewdog boss pays out £500,000 in gold can row (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64210355)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2023, 12:32:15 pm
Wow, this is weird...Ethanol-Free Alcohol
this 1 min vid explains it way better than I could
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1or5FoUHSr8&feature=shares

https://shop.ketoneaid.com/products/r-1-3-butanediol

and for those of you doing a Dry January
And does it break being "sober"? R 1,3 butanediol explained.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=S2JU_nXuP-U&feature=shares
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2023, 12:35:09 pm
Quote from: Side-eFeck ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2023, 12:32:15 pm
and for those of you doing a Dry January

Selfish bastards.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 11, 2023, 02:35:03 pm
You have been warned

Attention men: Pastor Steven Anderson says you shouldn't drink beer because if you do, you'll get a belly, man boobs, and the hops will "make you more feminine."

https://twitter.com/ChristnNitemare/status/1613220691054329856?s=20&t=a8AliWH8uUakbMQPa4Vy7A
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2023, 05:13:49 pm
Quote from: Bagley on November 28, 2022, 05:42:09 pm
Probably too pedestrian for you beer connoisseurs but I love this year's Celebration Ale from Sierra Nevada!
So I brewed a clone of this, no fresh wet hops, but damn if it wasn't delicious
free pour to anyone who can make it to Arlington in the next week before this keg is kicked
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 17, 2023, 05:03:36 pm
This seems like something one or two of you would like, for sale at Dominion. At $30 for 375ml, too rich for my liver.

Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen Hommage Young Lambic on Sour Cherries and Raspberries
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Starsky on January 17, 2023, 06:31:00 pm
Thanks sidehatch for the growler of home brew….am going to have some for my birthday!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 17, 2023, 08:16:14 pm
blast from the past: found some Sweet Repute (https://mybeerbuzz.blogspot.com/2022/07/founders-sweet-repute-returning-to.html), a re-released "Wheat wine Style Ale with Maple Syrup Aged in Bourbon Barrels" from Founders.  i vaguely remember enjoying this beer several years ago so took a chance on it.  gawdang it's delicious.  borders on a desert beer and i'm generally not a sweet beer guy but this one works for me.  could use just a tad more bourbon flavor IMHO, maybe i'll add a few drops to the next bottle i drink.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 17, 2023, 08:56:53 pm
We just finished a 32 oz growler of Sir Isaac's BCBS. Took two days.Quite excellent. Price the same as a pint bottle. Best BCBS variant I've had in years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 17, 2023, 10:52:20 pm
Quote from: Starsky on January 17, 2023, 06:31:00 pm
Thanks sidehatch for the growler of home brew….am going to have some for my birthday!
I hope you like it, there will be more where that came from
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on January 25, 2023, 07:41:56 pm
Quote from: contradiction on November 06, 2022, 07:01:44 pm
Just popped in to BabyCat. Very chill, relaxed vibe...crowded for a Sunday night. Maybe its the opening surge. Will definitely return. Beer is quite serviceable but nothing special.

Grateful Dead night is, by all accounts and reports from the staff, highly successful. This place is hoppin'
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on January 26, 2023, 11:10:21 am
https://twitter.com/TreeHouseBrewCo/status/1618374780738211854?t=rkKfMrmFN66jnbwTJV3-gg&s=19
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 26, 2023, 11:22:00 am
Quote from: Yada on January 26, 2023, 11:10:21 am
https://twitter.com/TreeHouseBrewCo/status/1618374780738211854?t=rkKfMrmFN66jnbwTJV3-gg&s=19

I was hoping this would say that they were going to start making exclusive, large shipments to Dominion Wine and Beer in Falls Church, VA. And Dominion would be selling the beer at the same price as at the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 26, 2023, 04:51:15 pm
last night the DC Homebrewers club (https://www.facebook.com/groups/DCHomebrewers/) met at Other Half.  attendees got tours of the facility from the head brewer, drank fresh IPA that was headed for canning the next day, and their cellarmaster pulled samples of barrel-aged stout and barleywine.  all this for the price of free.  as i've suggested before, you should follow their page even if you're not a home brewer - anyone can join and attend.  not all of their monthly meetings are quite as cool as this past one, but they're always fun :)


somewhat related: Denizens is having a bottle share this saturday (https://dcbeer.com/event/brewery-open-house-and-bottle-share-at-denizens-in-riverdale-park/), with free tours and tastings.  sounds like they're trying to make it a monthy'ish thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2023, 01:58:25 am
Quote from: sweetcell on January 26, 2023, 04:51:15 pm
last night the DC Homebrewers club (https://www.facebook.com/groups/DCHomebrewers/) met at Other Half.  attendees got tours of the facility from the head brewer, drank fresh IPA that was headed for canning the next day, and their cellarmaster pulled samples of barrel-aged stout and barleywine.  all this for the price of free.  as
Can confirm, was awesome
Didn’t even hear about it until 6:30 and was in OH by 7:30 with a growler of my Swarzbier
Spent a lot of time chatting with the Sapwood brewer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2023, 11:58:51 pm
Did you know the first canned beer was sold in Richmond!
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-canned-beer-goes-on-sale

Canned beer makes its debut on January 24, 1935. In partnership with the American Can Company, the Gottfried Krueger Brewing Company delivered 2,000 cans of Krueger’s Finest Beer and Krueger’s Cream Ale to faithful Krueger drinkers in Richmond, Virginia.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on January 30, 2023, 02:19:20 pm
Thoroughly enjoyed a nugget nectar on tap over the weekend at DTC...that lovely amber hue!  Nice break from the NEIPAs.  Prolly too sweet for the Beer Board :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 30, 2023, 03:50:36 pm
i honestly can't remember the last time i had a NN... probably close to 10 years now?  i wonder how i'd perceive that sweetness nowadays...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 30, 2023, 03:56:54 pm
Last week I bought a four pack (16 oz cans) of a Fiden's pale ale. $26. I haven't tried it yet.

I also bought a six pack (16 oz cans) of a Stone Hazy DIPA, on sale at Giant for $10. They can call it a hazy, and it may have been brewed in Richmond, but it still looks and tastes like a WCDIPA.

Wonder which one will win the Space Quality/Price ratio derby?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 30, 2023, 06:43:14 pm
* * * S P A C E   A L E R T * * *

Beer will cost more at this year’s Super Bowl party (https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/business/super-bowl-food-cost/index.html)
Load up on wings and guac!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 09, 2023, 08:43:50 am
Heilung.
Belgian.
Tripel

(And mead)

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid026eqV5nvC2yJxeL3y92kHNKi1VEhb9QWkxUUUjDQA8kupyT881DTjZyTkfU4k1jEPl&id=100044386240843&sfnsn=mo&mibextid=6aamW6
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 09, 2023, 12:19:00 pm
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/526/490/4a1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 17, 2023, 04:54:32 pm
Drake’s has acquired Bear Republic.  Huge news out here.  Or maybe it isn’t.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 17, 2023, 04:59:28 pm
The coffee cake people?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on February 17, 2023, 05:31:24 pm
The equation people.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 17, 2023, 07:03:29 pm
The rapper?

I didn't realize Bear Republic still exists.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 18, 2023, 12:41:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2023, 07:03:29 pm
I didn't realize Bear Republic still exists.

i find this hard to believe.  you haven't see Racer 5 on the shelves any time recently?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2023, 08:57:34 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on February 18, 2023, 12:41:56 am
Quote from: Space Freely on February 17, 2023, 07:03:29 pm
I didn't realize Bear Republic still exists.

i find this hard to believe.  you haven't see Racer 5 on the shelves any time recently?

I don't think they ship here anymore.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2023, 08:59:31 pm
Who's in?

https://www.visitloudoun.org/event/the-first-annual-mr-leesburg-pageant/40552/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2023, 09:53:33 pm
How is that going to go over with the heavy MAGA presence?

Seems like it will be mostly men in drag
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 30, 2023, 02:58:33 pm
We Asked 15 Brewers: What Is Your Favorite Hop? (https://www.hopculture.com/craft-brewers-favorite-hops/)

usual suspects are there (citra, simcoe, etc.) but a few new ones too... including nectaron, a hop from new zealand that is the most expensive hop on the market - when it's even available on the market.  i've been trying to get some for at least 2 years now, but whenever it is made available to homebrewers it's A) twice as expensive as the next-most expensive hop, and B) it'll sell out faster than a springsteen show.  a local brewery called Black Raven has released a seasonal featuring nectaron and it's freaking delicious.  been mainlining the stuff for 2 weeks now.  move over citra, nectaron is the future.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on March 30, 2023, 04:46:25 pm
Astrolab has a new brew called Nectaron. It is delightful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2023, 08:06:30 pm
I'm going to throw it out there that O don't like simcoe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 31, 2023, 01:51:41 am
Quote from: Space Freely on March 30, 2023, 08:06:30 pm
I'm going to throw it out there that O don't like simcoe.

who's "O"?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 31, 2023, 07:11:36 am
O Jackson. You remember: “O knows baseball! O doesn’t like Simcoe.”
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 31, 2023, 12:09:53 pm
now that Elon is done fucking up twitter, he's moved on to destroying beer.  "cyberhops"... <cringe>

Tesla launches GigaBier: Cybertruck-inspired pilsner (https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-gigabier-cybertruck-pilsner/)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsfPkNkXgAIEb2h?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2023, 02:00:01 pm
Kid rock and I agree...fuck bud light
https://twitter.com/KidRock/status/1643090302410936323?s=20
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2023, 02:50:58 pm
Quote from: IncludingAHat ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2023, 02:00:01 pm
Kid rock and I agree...fuck bud light
https://twitter.com/KidRock/status/1643090302410936323?s=20


Conservatives Are Boycotting Bud Light Over an Ad Featuring Trans Activist Dylan Mulvaney

https://vinepair.com/booze-news/bud-light-partnership-backlash/#:~:text=Bud%20Light%20is%20facing%20backlash,the%20NCAA%20March%20Madness%20tournament.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2023, 02:54:03 pm
I know why he did it, but we still come to the same conclusion
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2023, 04:39:55 pm
my kid says she knows 10 girls at her school who claim to identify as male.

I'm not denying that it's a real thing in some cases, but the whole trans thing is clearly a trendy thing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 04, 2023, 04:56:10 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 04, 2023, 04:39:55 pm
my kid says she knows 10 girls at her school who claim to identify as male.

I'm not denying that it's a real thing in some cases, but the whole trans thing is clearly a trendy thing.

Identity is not a trend. TERFs gonna TERF.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on April 04, 2023, 05:13:40 pm
Can a man be a TERF? This is all very confusing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 04, 2023, 05:19:34 pm
men can be feminists... so why not TERFs?  i realize that it's women that come to mind when thinking of TERFs, but i don't feel it's exclusive to women.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 04, 2023, 05:22:55 pm
Wait. Space isn't a woman?!?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 04, 2023, 05:26:00 pm
I just assumed since they're married to an angry lesbian....

I guess it all makes more sense this way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 10:33:57 am
Yahoo's throwing out their bud light (which they already paid for) and posting it is now a thing
https://twitter.com/AKBrews/status/1643679771241639936?s=20


what's even funnier is he replaces it with Coors light...who is also in fact supporting the LGBTQ community with cans
https://denverpride.org/coors-light-supports-the-lgbtq-community/



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 01:37:36 pm
Not Travis!
what ever will we do

@Travistritt
I will be deleting all Anheuser-Busch products from my tour hospitality rider. I know many other artists who are doing the same.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on April 06, 2023, 01:42:47 pm
Who the fuck is Travis Twit?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 01:47:00 pm
Quote from: Hutch on April 06, 2023, 01:42:47 pm
Who the fuck is Travis Twit?

You remind me of the guy who was trying to argue that nobody knows who LCD Soundsystem is.


Travis Tritt’s albums, seven of which are certified platinum or higher, have led him to amass more than 30 million in career album sales, 2 Grammy awards, 4 CMA Awards, including CMA Horizon Award (now known as the New Artist Award); a Billboard Music Award for Top New Artist, an invitation to become a member of the world-famous Grand Ole Opry and a devoted fan base that has filled venues from coast-to-coast.  He is also dubbed one of the “The Class Of ’89,” which includes Country music superstars Garth Brooks, Clint Black, and Alan Jackson – all of whom dominated the charts in the ‘90s.

Among his 11 studio albums and numerous charted singles are 5 #1s and 20 Top 10 hits, including “Help Me Hold On,” “Anymore,” “Can I Trust You With My Heart,” “Foolish Pride,” “Best Of Intentions,” “I’m Gonna Be Somebody,” “Modern Day Bonnie & Clyde,” “Here’s A Quarter,” “It’s A Great Day To Be Alive,” and more.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 01:48:45 pm
Quote from: Hutch on April 06, 2023, 01:42:47 pm
Who the fuck is Travis Twit?
it's odd that this guy is against LGBTQ stuff with his style
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtAKvfUXsAEBDy5?format=jpg&name=medium)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 01:50:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 01:47:00 pm
Quote from: Hutch on April 06, 2023, 01:42:47 pm
Who the fuck is Travis Twit?

You remind me of the guy who was trying to argue that nobody knows who LCD Soundsystem is.
I would argue that Travis is way more well known that LCDSS

also, jack daniels is on the boycott list too
https://twitter.com/Travistritt/status/1643791339350360068?s=20

What are rednecks to drink?
I hope wild turkey is safe from the wokness
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on April 06, 2023, 01:52:13 pm
That was 30 years ago?!? That Travis Twit? Has he had a hit the last 20 years?

Wait is he the guy who plays the Birchmere cause he is a total has been?

Yeah I don’t think that’s like LCD
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 02:05:15 pm
Quote from: Hutch on April 06, 2023, 01:52:13 pm
That was 30 years ago?!? That Travis Twit? Has he had a hit the last 20 years?

Wait is he the guy who plays the Birchmere cause he is a total has been?

Yeah I don’t think that’s like LCD

I'm in no way advocating for Travis Tritt, but he's also headlining this 8500 capacity venue in Athens, GA that Wilco and Jerry Seinfeld are also headlining at.

https://classiccenter.com/396/Upcoming-Events

Also headlining other venues of that side.

Of course Travis Tritt plays $200 Birchmere shows because he's not going to pack the Anthem. But he seemingly still packs them in elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2023, 02:05:51 pm
Who will be the first to complain about the taplist and prices of beer at The Atlantis... I'll bet the farm on Space.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on April 06, 2023, 02:14:32 pm
Whatever they do you can bet there will be complaints.

At a 930 show I overheard some guys talking about how 930 was now charging stadium prices. I couldn’t exactly disagree. I noticed not that many people were getting beers. There is a point at which people just say fuck that.

I say bring back at least one cheap beer….maybe without advertising it…

I remember $3 buds…of course it was25 years ago….
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 06, 2023, 02:39:42 pm
Quote from: WeakestOfSauces ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 01:50:08 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 01:47:00 pm
Quote from: Hutch on April 06, 2023, 01:42:47 pm
Who the fuck is Travis Twit?

You remind me of the guy who was trying to argue that nobody knows who LCD Soundsystem is.
I would argue that Travis is way more well known that LCDSS

 i would argue that both are HUGE... in small, isolated niches. neither of them have crossed over into the mainstream.

LCDSS are big in the indie/dance/NYC/etc scenes.  but i can totally see how someone who isn't into those scenes might not have ever heard of murphy & co.

tritt is apparently a really big name in country... but as someone who isn't into country, i can honestly say i had never heard of him until yesterday.  zero name or face recognition for me. 

i consider myself to have an above-average awareness of music, i go to a lot of shows (at least used to), i follow music biz news, i make the mistake of reading you music nerds on the daily, etc... and i couldn't have picked tritt out of a lineup 24 hours ago. 

one shouldn't assume that their personal knowledge = common knowledge, which is hard to do when the personal knowledge is deep.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 05:01:07 pm
Commonwealth Brewing to open an Old Town Fairfax location.

I can thi of a number of others I'd prefer, but I'll gladly take it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 05:06:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 05:01:07 pm
Commonwealth Brewing to open an Old Town Fairfax location.

I can thi of a number of others I'd prefer, but I'll gladly take it.
That’s awesome, one of my favorite breweries
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2023, 12:01:29 pm
Quote from: WeakestOfSauces ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2023, 02:00:01 pm
Kid rock and I agree...fuck bud light
https://twitter.com/KidRock/status/1643090302410936323?s=20
oh that's good
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/339572543_534803315481348_1804063760883458006_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=Tn8YM0iO12gAX_6NOfj&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfB9NtSB9KJo-DTqCBpf1aAI1BEJeXNLHWGCz2xPJJvFSw&oe=64354C10)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 07, 2023, 06:01:59 pm
"The Cullen–Harrison Act, named for its sponsors, Senator Pat Harrison and Representative Thomas H. Cullen, enacted by the United States Congress on March 21, 1933, and signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt the following day, legalized the sale in the United States of beer with an alcohol content of 3.2% (by weight) and wine of similarly low alcohol content, thought to be too low to be intoxicating, effective April 7, 1933. Upon signing the legislation, Roosevelt made his famous remark, "I think this would be a good time for a beer."
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 07, 2023, 06:34:25 pm
Quote from: WeakestOfSauces ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2023, 02:00:01 pm
Kid rock and I agree...fuck bud light
https://twitter.com/KidRock/status/1643090302410936323?s=20 (https://twitter.com/KidRock/status/1643090302410936323?s=20)

TIL the rainbow cans of bud light that i thought were at the center of this brouhaha are not available to the public.  they will not be distributed.  AB made one can and gave it to a trans influencer.  so it's not like every Bubba Sixpack is being forced to drink the rainbow.  to my mind this makes this fair kerfuffle even stupider than before.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 07, 2023, 06:37:38 pm
also, apparently today (4/07) is National Beer Day.  maybe i should mark this special occasion by not having a beer, for once ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 07, 2023, 06:43:02 pm
I'm out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 07, 2023, 07:27:49 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 07, 2023, 06:37:38 pm
also, apparently today (4/07) is National Beer Day.  maybe i should mark this special occasion by not having a beer, for once ;D

We're having some Cabernet tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 07, 2023, 07:28:42 pm
https://images.app.goo.gl/ULvFvbQoREsHBbWe7
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 07, 2023, 07:52:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 07, 2023, 07:28:42 pm
https://images.app.goo.gl/ULvFvbQoREsHBbWe7 (https://images.app.goo.gl/ULvFvbQoREsHBbWe7)

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2023, 03:07:51 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/340453902_623890649073691_8486951058175473747_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=L2VogJpowTMAX95-Vkx&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfATR2ki9jkPHmrCKeexzaoz__6Pa8Fy1zVxxaQXKeHVfA&oe=6437A74E)
did baby jules run in the same circles as kid rock?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on April 09, 2023, 03:12:48 pm


Of course I disagree with his politics and largely can’t stand his music but the fact Ahmet Ertegun loved him does give me pause.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 10, 2023, 09:51:20 am
https://www.instagram.com/p/CqyyhUkJwPx/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 10, 2023, 03:36:16 pm
Kid rock promotion of another beverage over bud lite…oops catilyn Jenner is a part of their marketing

https://www.newsweek.com/kid-rock-promotes-new-seltzer-ties-transgender-partnership-1793435
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2023, 05:33:50 pm
There is a new beer in town
https://twitter.com/sethweathers/status/1646166561919492099

Although taste is secondary to our efforts to virtue signal and make the libs cry

$35 a six pack (that’s 12 oz cans, like god intended)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2023, 07:48:00 am
This bud light thing just has me reading all these stupid stories

but that Matt Walsh, DC draino and other rightwing mouthpieces celebrating the 'collapse of AB' is just killing me
they keep using the stock price and it's hysterical because the stock just had a major surge a month ago of 10%, then it's gone down 5% over the last week or so (i.e. still up 5% from a month ago) as evidence that they have put somewhere between a 3Bill and 5Bill hurt on the brand
I bet in a week or two that most of that 'loss' will be erased and this has had almost no impact

I gotta imagine all the MAGA sheep are just eating it up "We're winning the war on Bud Light!"  Let's throw out more of products we've already bought

this headline in a financial blog says it all
Anheuser-Busch: Blowing Up Bud Light Cans Doesn't Change The Company's Bottom Line


god these people are so stupid
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2023, 08:05:05 am
Quote from: Unfulfilled-Hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2023, 07:48:00 am
This bud light thing just has me reading all these stupid stories

but that Matt Walsh, DC draino and other rightwing mouthpieces celebrating the 'collapse of AB' is just killing me
they keep using the stock price and it's hysterical because the stock just had a major surge a month ago of 10%, then it's gone down 5% over the last week or so (i.e. still up 5% from a month ago) as evidence that they have put somewhere between a 3Bill and 5Bill hurt on the brand
I bet in a week or two that most of that 'loss' will be erased and this has had almost no impact

I gotta imagine all the MAGA sheep are just eating it up "We're winning the war on Bud Light!"  Let's throw out more of products we've already bought

this headline in a financial blog says it all
Anheuser-Busch: Blowing Up Bud Light Cans Doesn't Change The Company's Bottom Line


god these people are so stupid

Technically a 10% increase followed by a 5% decrease would be an overall increase of 4.5%, not 5%.

Now you can see why my wife hates me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 14, 2023, 08:06:09 am
Clearly I need to follow Ted Lieu as his twitter feed is expert level snark...

A chef's kiss in this beatdown


Ted Lieu
@tedlieu
·
Apr 12
Actually,
@HouseGOP
 did accomplish some things.

1. Republicans took turns reading the Constitution out loud on the House Floor.

2. They held two hearings complaining about Twitter.

3. Some GOP Members boycotted Bud Light and instead brought other beers from the same company.

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1646270926668070914?s=20
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2023, 08:29:36 am
This story is so bizarre
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-jr-urges-right-wingers-to-end-boycott-of-conservative-leaning-bud-light

Junior is like “hey bud lite sucks for what they did, but let’s not cancel them as they give a lot of money to republicans “
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 23, 2023, 06:09:32 pm
Thought this was on Onion story

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/22/europe/belgium-destroys-beer-champagne-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2023-04-22T11%3A55%3A36
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 23, 2023, 10:03:56 pm
I was coming here to discuss the outright violence that has beset the American lager.

wasn't bad enough that all those fancy kids were drinking their IPA's
now we have to deal with automatic weapons and nation-states
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on April 23, 2023, 11:24:41 pm
I have no idea what you're talking about but I completely agree. Or disagree. I don't know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 24, 2023, 01:52:25 pm
The destruction of beer reminds me of the time when Coors was only available in certain parts of the country, there was such a demand for  it people were illegally transporting it across states.  A load of land it landed in the Grosse Pointes of Michigan and then confiscated by the authorities, who proceeded to steamroll the cans in a local parking lot...

if only the modern bootleggers had only remembered to transport the stuff across the river...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 24, 2023, 01:55:53 pm
They have figured out a way to hate the woke beer companies...but still drink the beer swill you love!
I mean, this is genius and I can't believe I hadn't thought of this

just slip on a real women of politics condom, and you are set

https://twitter.com/SarahHuckabee/status/1650312411524497410?s=20

do they make one for chick-fil a nugs??  asking for a friend
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on April 24, 2023, 01:56:21 pm
Smokey and the bandit!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 24, 2023, 02:08:52 pm
Quote from: Hutch on April 24, 2023, 01:56:21 pm
Smokey and the bandit!!
This is what I was thinking too. I think people forget that all of that insanity in the film is based around getting beer to a nascar race on time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 24, 2023, 02:09:00 pm
The bad news is the Bruery retail store in Union Market is closing. The good news is:

Rumor has it The Bruery is not done with the DC-area, however. They may be looking at either Alexandria or Arlington for a tasting room, with retail and distribution components as well. We’ll monitor this situation and keep you updated

https://dcbeer.com/2023/04/24/dcs-bruery-store-to-close-at-the-end-of-april/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 24, 2023, 02:14:27 pm
Arlinton would be nice!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on April 24, 2023, 02:24:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 24, 2023, 02:09:00 pm
The bad news is the Bruery retail store in Union Market is closing. The good news is:

Rumor has it The Bruery is not done with the DC-area, however. They may be looking at either Alexandria or Arlington for a tasting room, with retail and distribution components as well. We’ll monitor this situation and keep you updated

https://dcbeer.com/2023/04/24/dcs-bruery-store-to-close-at-the-end-of-april/

When is the last time you willinging chose a Bruery beer for consumption (other than the bottles in your cellar from 2012)?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 24, 2023, 03:51:28 pm
Quote from: Yada on April 24, 2023, 02:24:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 24, 2023, 02:09:00 pm
The bad news is the Bruery retail store in Union Market is closing. The good news is:

Rumor has it The Bruery is not done with the DC-area, however. They may be looking at either Alexandria or Arlington for a tasting room, with retail and distribution components as well. We’ll monitor this situation and keep you updated

https://dcbeer.com/2023/04/24/dcs-bruery-store-to-close-at-the-end-of-april/

When is the last time you willinging chose a Bruery beer for consumption (other than the bottles in your cellar from 2012)?

When I visited their tasting room in Anaheim in Summer 2021. I'll take a Bruery sour any day of the week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2023, 07:50:28 pm

Frühlingsfest

Aslin Beer Co's second annual  in Alexandria!

 The event will take place at Aslin Alexandria and from 12PM-5PM on Saturday, May 6th, 2023. We're excited to welcome a number of our brewery partners on site for guests to try a variety of lagers.

Tickets are $25 and include a tasting glass and four 8oz pours.

https://www.exploretock.com/aslin-beer-company--alexandria-alexandria/event/404175
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 02, 2023, 11:28:59 am
welp not totally dead as they are thinking of reopening somewhere else

New District Brewing Company

After a great run, we are sad to announce that New District Brewing Company will be closing our location in Shirlington at the end of May. While we're still optimistic about reopening in a new location, for the moment we are saying goodbye.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on May 03, 2023, 12:06:40 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/Pm2jpNz/BED1-E7-F8-6-B1-C-4-DE0-A4-A4-535733-B97558.png) (https://ibb.co/X2nLBbk)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2023, 12:38:52 pm
^ cool, awaiting reviews
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 03, 2023, 01:02:51 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 03, 2023, 12:38:52 pm
^ cool, awaiting reviews

Their pils is the one beer I like of theirs... hopefully it's that offering in a different can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 11, 2023, 07:11:44 pm
Astro Lab closing, space taken over by Third Hill. That's surprising, I thought Astro Lab was supposed to be the best of the bunch in Silver Spring.

https://dcbeer.com/2023/05/09/astro-lab-to-close-third-hill-to-open/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 11, 2023, 07:13:42 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 11, 2023, 07:11:44 pm
Astro Lab closing, space taken over by Third Hill. That's surprising, I thought Astro Lab was supposed to be the best of the bunch in Silver Spring.

https://dcbeer.com/2023/05/09/astro-lab-to-close-third-hill-to-open/

They are...

Best does not equate to making money or sustainable
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 11, 2023, 07:26:39 pm
They make premium beer with expensive ingredients.  From their post, it seems like the owners are going separate ways.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 12:15:32 pm
World Beer Cup was held last week. notable winners (https://www.worldbeercup.org/winners/current-winners/):
- Fat Head did really well for themselves, taking gold in american IPA (Head Hunter) and another gold in strong red ale (Bone Head).  as is always the case nowadays, amIPA was the most-entered category (412).
- DC Brau raked in a gold for their Penn Quarter Porter in the robust porter category.
- the USA was the clear leader, with over 80% of the medals (approx), and Canada was the clear second.  as much as it would be fun to claim this as "proof" of the superiority of north american brewing, this competition is only "lightly international"... vast majority of entries come from those two countries. 
- Argentina won as many medals as Belgium  :P
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 12:38:04 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 12:15:32 pm
World Beer Cup was held last week. notable winners (https://www.worldbeercup.org/winners/current-winners/):
- Fat Head did really well for themselves, taking gold in american IPA (Head Hunter) and another gold in strong red ale (Bone Head).  as is always the case nowadays, amIPA was the most-entered category (412).
- DC Brau raked in a gold for their Penn Quarter Porter in the robust porter category.
- the USA was the clear leader, with over 80% of the medals (approx), and Canada was the clear second.  as much as it would be fun to claim this as "proof" of the superiority of north american brewing, this competition is only "lightly international"... vast majority of entries come from those two countries. 
- Argentina won as many medals as Belgium  :P

2008 called. They want their results back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 01:56:48 pm
"quality is timeless"
- somebody somewhere
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 03:00:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 01:56:48 pm
"quality is timeless"
- somebody somewhere

I dunno, DC Brau is the 8 track player of beer at this point.

I doubt the really good breweries even send their beer to beer competitions. What would be the point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 15, 2023, 03:52:47 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 01:56:48 pm
"quality is timeless"
- somebody somewhere
The prestige television thread is over there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 04:50:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 03:00:58 pm
I doubt the really good breweries even send their beer to beer competitions. What would be the point.

well, other than a relatively cheap marketing hit, there is prestige: the WBC is a pretty big deal among professional brewers.  its medals are held in even higher regard than a GABF medal.

a quick napkin calc shows that about 20% of all US breweries participated in this year's WBC.  a good chunk of that other 80% is going to be small breweries and brewpubs that either know they can't win, or frankly don't care (i.e. their focus is on making whatever sells locally AKA staying in business, and/or are not concerned about national/international recognition).  but certainly, there are some excellent breweries that didn't participate.  i noticed that Hill Farmstead and The Alchemist didn't participate, but they never participate in any competitions (clearly happy being hermits in vermont, can't blame them...)

if you go to the participating breweries (https://www.worldbeercup.org/about/participating-breweries/) page and open up the "north america" list - which really good breweries are missing?  many, if not all, of the usual suspects are there IMO.  i guess my point is that representation at the WBC looked pretty good to me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 15, 2023, 05:10:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 04:50:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 03:00:58 pm
I doubt the really good breweries even send their beer to beer competitions. What would be the point.

which really good breweries are missing?  many, if not all, of the usual suspects are there IMO.  i guess my point is that representation at the WBC looked pretty good to me.

Prepare for a killsally-esque end of year concert list response from The Space.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 05:18:30 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 15, 2023, 05:10:10 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 04:50:31 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 03:00:58 pm
I doubt the really good breweries even send their beer to beer competitions. What would be the point.

which really good breweries are missing?  many, if not all, of the usual suspects are there IMO.  i guess my point is that representation at the WBC looked pretty good to me.

Prepare for a killsally-esque end of year concert list response from The Space.

You betcha. None of the first 16 that I randomly pulled out of my head were listed as participants. I think I hit on one on my 17th guess.

Monkish
de Garde
Casey
Other Half
the Veil
Maine Beer Company
Fidens
Mortalis
Triple Crossing
Bissell Brothers
Tree House
Trillium
Burial
Equilibrium
Wheatland Spring
Ocelot
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 07:10:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 05:18:30 pm
None of the first 16 that I randomly pulled out of my head were listed as participants. I think I hit on one on my 17th guess.

good list, but i absolutely question you going 0/16.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 15, 2023, 07:33:48 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 12:15:32 pm
- Argentina won as many medals as Belgium  :P
that's kinda nuts...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 15, 2023, 07:36:38 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 07:10:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 05:18:30 pm
None of the first 16 that I randomly pulled out of my head were listed as participants. I think I hit on one on my 17th guess.

good list, but i absolutely question you going 0/16.

I mean, I haven't paid attention to beer in a few years at this point and that list was pretty accurate then... point, space!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 07:38:17 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 15, 2023, 07:10:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 15, 2023, 05:18:30 pm
None of the first 16 that I randomly pulled out of my head were listed as participants. I think I hit on one on my 17th guess.

good list, but i absolutely question you going 0/16.

It wasn't 0/16, it was 0/18. I forgot to include Hudson Valley and Suarez. But then I tried Fremont and someone else wo I can't recall and hit on both, so 2/20.

Let's live stream another 10...

Fox Farm...nope
Bierstadt Lagerhaus....nope
Human Robot...yes
Finback...nope
Angary Chair...nope
Clag...nope
The Answer...nope
Civil Society...nope
Tripping Amimals...yes
Cycle...nope

So that's 4/30. Actually, I forgot that Tree House was two words, and they were there. So that's 5/30.

Apparently DC Brau won more medals than Tree House?



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2023, 12:25:21 am
we might be entering a new stage of the evolution of craft beer: Big Beer selling its aquisitions back to the original owners, AKA the divestment stage

Anheuser-Busch Sells Appalachian Mountain Brewery Back to Founders (https://vinepair.com/booze-news/appalachian-mountain-brewery-purchase/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 05:42:12 am
That’s great.  Would be interesting to know what they paid and what they sold it back for
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 22, 2023, 08:05:43 am
Quote from: SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 05:42:12 am
That’s great.  Would be interesting to know what they paid and what they sold it back for

Not back to the original owner. but shades of this story.

I thought the original sale of Ballast Point to Constellation for a billion in 2015 had to be one of the biggest swindles of all time.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ballast-point-sold-kings-convicts-wine-group
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 08:52:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 22, 2023, 08:05:43 am
Quote from: SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 05:42:12 am
That’s great.  Would be interesting to know what they paid and what they sold it back for

Not back to the original owner. but shades of this story.

I thought the original sale of Ballast Point to Constellation for a billion in 2015 had to be one of the biggest swindles of all time.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ballast-point-sold-kings-convicts-wine-group
I assume the owners of Ballast were the ones who pulled off the swindle?
would love to have a VH1 style of "Where are they now"

edit: $900 million less yowza that must have been hard to cover that loss on the old PandL
TBH it sold fairly well for being one of the first $12 six packs out there, for some reason always saw a lot of frat-type dudes buying it  (rather than the typical beared balding pear)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 22, 2023, 09:12:35 am
Quote from: SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 08:52:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 22, 2023, 08:05:43 am
Quote from: SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 05:42:12 am
That’s great.  Would be interesting to know what they paid and what they sold it back for

Not back to the original owner. but shades of this story.

I thought the original sale of Ballast Point to Constellation for a billion in 2015 had to be one of the biggest swindles of all time.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ballast-point-sold-kings-convicts-wine-group
I assume the owners of Ballast were the ones who pulled off the swindle?
would love to have a VH1 style of "Where are they now"

edit: $900 million less yowza that must have been hard to cover that loss on the old PandL
TBH it sold fairly well for being one of the first $12 six packs out there, for some reason always saw a lot of frat-type dudes buying it  (rather than the typical beared balding pear)

I feel like Sculplin like you said, was one of the first say post two hearted/60 min that was easily accessible... not sure I'd pin a certain buyer on it, but assuming you liked "good" beer, a high abv, and liked to get crunked up... It was the best choice 10+ years ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 22, 2023, 04:42:54 pm
Flying Dog acquired by NY Brewer (https://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-flying-dog-brewery-frederick-acquired-fx-matt-20230522-bwuyxl4skjhk3o3polntouyjw4-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Don%27t%20Miss&utm_content=5541684787180&lctg=2395016)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on May 22, 2023, 05:47:06 pm
New York City???
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 27, 2023, 05:21:30 pm
So using the space value per oz formula… what price would a case of bud light need to go for to appear in his fridge


Bud Light 24-packs going for $3.49 as sales tank during Dylan Mulvaney boycott
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 27, 2023, 07:05:04 pm
I'm having dinner at the Mellow Mushroom in Chantilly where a draft pour of Guinness is $9 and a draft pour of  Monkish DIPA is $4. Would have bet it was a typo, but it's not. I'll br having two. Xhheers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 27, 2023, 07:34:11 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 27, 2023, 07:05:04 pm
I'm having dinner at the Mellow Mushroom in Chantilly where a draft pour of Guinness is $9 and a draft pour of  Monkish DIPA is $4. Would have bet it was a typo, but it's not. I'll br having two. Xhheers.

Why are you in Chantilly
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 27, 2023, 07:42:49 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 22, 2023, 09:12:35 am
Quote from: SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 08:52:42 am
Quote from: Space Freely on May 22, 2023, 08:05:43 am
Quote from: SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 05:42:12 am
That’s great.  Would be interesting to know what they paid and what they sold it back for

Not back to the original owner. but shades of this story.

I thought the original sale of Ballast Point to Constellation for a billion in 2015 had to be one of the biggest swindles of all time.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ballast-point-sold-kings-convicts-wine-group
I assume the owners of Ballast were the ones who pulled off the swindle?
would love to have a VH1 style of "Where are they now"

edit: $900 million less yowza that must have been hard to cover that loss on the old PandL
TBH it sold fairly well for being one of the first $12 six packs out there, for some reason always saw a lot of frat-type dudes buying it  (rather than the typical beared balding pear)

I feel like Sculplin like you said, was one of the first say post two hearted/60 min that was easily accessible... not sure I'd pin a certain buyer on it, but assuming you liked "good" beer, a high abv, and liked to get crunked up... It was the best choice 10+ years ago.

Heading home from Shenandoah. Haven't been to a Mellow Mushroom in 10 years and probably won't for another 10. Thought id give it a try again ,five minutes off 66. Did notice they had a good beer selection, didn't notice the Monkish special til we got here. Glad we sat inside, the Goo Goo Dolls beats The guy outside playing love Jimmy Buffett.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 30, 2023, 12:24:58 pm
My brother is making a stop at Tree House en route to a vacation destination. It's his first time at Tree House. So he's buying a bunch of beer to bring home, right?

Wrong. "Oh, I'll probably get a four back of Julius and a four pack of Green."

He's doing it wrong, right? I mean, I brought home a variety case, a stout four pack, and a couple of snifters (as well as a second variety case that a MA friend gifted us.) We were drinking the damn stuff for six months.

He agreed to grab some for me too. Is it obnoxious to ask him to get more for me that he gets for himself? Caveat: I won't be able to pick it up from him until 9.5 weeks after his purchase, so wouldn't ask him to get too much more (at least in terms of hazies) anyway.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 30, 2023, 12:30:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 30, 2023, 12:24:58 pm
a variety case, a stout four pack, and a couple of snifters
whoa, that must have set you back $150 clams (although don't know how many are in a 'case'...used to mean 24 12oz cans)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 30, 2023, 12:59:38 pm
Quote from: SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 30, 2023, 12:30:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 30, 2023, 12:24:58 pm
a variety case, a stout four pack, and a couple of snifters
whoa, that must have set you back $150 clams (although don't know how many are in a 'case'...used to mean 24 12oz cans)

Yeah, about that. There two current hazy variety cases are $110 and $125. That's 24 16 oz cans. So six four packs. Certainly in line with or less than what numerous other inferior breweries charge. Heck, a four pack of Green or Julius is only $15.20. I don't think there are any discounts for getting a case, the bonus is you're getting the variety, and sometimes you get obscure stuff that they aren't selling in four packs.

Plus, the one time I was there was at the start of the pandemic, and buying a mixed variety pack was the only option for the hazies. Though the sold some of the non-hazies in four packs.

https://orders.treehousebrew.com/oa/order/menu
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 30, 2023, 01:04:27 pm
Can't speak for 9.5 week old hazies, but I did just get a case of Suarez cans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 30, 2023, 01:14:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 30, 2023, 01:04:27 pm
Can't speak for 9.5 week old habits, but I did just get a case of Suarez cans.

I think Suarez is 45 mins off his travel path, and Fidens is 15. If it were me, I'd be hitting both of them.

What did the case of Suarez cost you?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on May 30, 2023, 01:20:00 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 30, 2023, 01:14:33 pm
Quote from: Yada on May 30, 2023, 01:04:27 pm
Can't speak for 9.5 week old habits, but I did just get a case of Suarez cans.

I think Suarez is 45 mins off his travel path, and Fidens is 15. If it were me, I'd be hitting both of them.

What did the case of Suarez cost you?

$115 + Shipping
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 03, 2023, 10:41:01 am
Brewery is creating Viagra Boys themed beers
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/351107335_182108101158883_7039902901670826954_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=Ph2i8VJIz0EAX9Prsu3&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfBdL9L1RAhtWQKr76gB7NDuZXNVQ8zGodqWA-t76SGkEA&oe=647FEE43)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 03, 2023, 11:29:14 am
Whoa Guinness plant to close in MD on 6/9
Wanted to visit but alas
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 03, 2023, 11:58:43 am
Quote from: SideH@tchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 03, 2023, 11:29:14 am
Whoa Guinness plant to close in MD on 6/9
Wanted to visit but alas

At least there's still Suarez.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 03, 2023, 12:24:33 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on June 03, 2023, 11:58:43 am
Quote from: SideH@tchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 03, 2023, 11:29:14 am
Whoa Guinness plant to close in MD on 6/9
Wanted to visit but alas

At least there's still Suarez.
Update
Guinness taproom in Halethorp staying open. They are just closing the production facility.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 05, 2023, 08:18:47 am
Mega Fresh Fest in the Woods
Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:00 AM - 2:00 PM 42245 Black Hops Ln, Lucketts, VA, 20176
About Event:
Mega Fresh Fest, Juicy Brewing Company’s first ever beer festival, is coming to Northern Virginia on June 17, 2023! This is going to be a celebration of the Juicy story and those around us who are a part of it. The venue is at Vanish Brewing's Pavilion space; out in the incredible Virginian nature! Just picture it: trees, rolling lawn, creek, and a beautifully rustic barn. We will have live DJ sessions with chill house and trance music as the soundtrack to all of this, a cigar bar, and a special VIP area. We have more than 20 breweries coming from all across the United States, and even a few from other countries!

Come out and enjoy beers from (this is just a teaser list, more to come):

Mortalis
Ocelot
Imprint
Burley Oak
Dewey
Cushwa
Crooked Run
Commonwealth
Corporate Ladder
Resident Culture
Sapwood
FourScore
Branch & Blade
Celestial Beerworks
Heavy Reel
Frequentem Brewing
Drekker
Dreamstate
La Pirata (Spain)
Ill Will
Dancing Gnome

About GA:
General admission tickets get you entry into the Mega Fresh Fest with a tasting glass to try all the beer you could want from all of our featured breweries! There will be food trucks on site, as well as cigars for purchase. We can't wait for you to join us and enjoy the music, Virginia landscape, and delicious libations! Don't sleep on our fest!

About VIP:
We have a limited amount of VIP tickets, which include everything from general admission plus a few extra good perks! The VIP ticket also includes a 4 pack of our festival beer, a custom hat, a custom pint glass, and access to our VIP area with some surprises!

Note about DDs:
DD tickets aren't required for this event because Vanish Brewing is just up the driveway and should have plenty of food and soft drinks available for your DD to enjoy as they wait for you to emerge from the forest.

Get them while they're hot!

LOCATION
42245 Black Hops Ln, Lucketts, VA, 20176
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 05, 2023, 12:10:07 pm
^ craft beer +  trance?  would attend!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 11, 2023, 11:02:21 am
S.F.’s Anchor Brewing slashes national distribution, cancels cult-favorite Christmas ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2023, 08:54:19 pm
That was quick
https://twitter.com/dcbeer/status/1669476226061279233?s=46&t=jcACWCl5JrMz2nxLe-LAMw
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 26, 2023, 07:11:25 pm
if you ever find yourself in central Washington state, on the east side of the Cascades (amazing hiking!), you should definitely consider visiting the quaint town of Leavenworth, WA (https://mindfultravelbysara.com/en/things-to-do-in-leavenworth/), whose main claim to fame is that it looks more bavarian than most of actual Bavaria.  and while there, i strongly recommend that you visit Icicle Brewing (https://iciclebrewing.com/).  these guys excel at hazies - not too surprising since they're located just north of Yakima...  their flagship, Alpenhaze, has won a bunch of medals recently at GABF, WBC, etc.  i recently got some 3-day-old cans of double Motueka Magic Meadows, which is possibly the best imp hazy i've ever had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 02, 2023, 04:56:27 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/356738953_849332909924498_7692763717026909481_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=YTuTdRwZZJEAX8B3-U-&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfA3IT9ZOSjA2KElbADExZRdJbNESGUbELLF6VS49nLB5Q&oe=64A6E43E)

pretty solid list if you ask me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 03, 2023, 05:48:39 am
Quote from: SideH@tchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 02, 2023, 04:56:27 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/356738953_849332909924498_7692763717026909481_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=YTuTdRwZZJEAX8B3-U-&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfA3IT9ZOSjA2KElbADExZRdJbNESGUbELLF6VS49nLB5Q&oe=64A6E43E)

pretty solid list if you ask me

Agree, but bump Elder Pine to #3.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 12, 2023, 09:42:50 am
Quote from: SideH@tchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 11, 2023, 11:02:21 am
S.F.’s Anchor Brewing slashes national distribution, cancels cult-favorite Christmas ale

https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/anchor-brewing-company-to-cease-operations-18196284.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 12, 2023, 10:41:10 am
Quote from: vansmack on July 12, 2023, 09:42:50 am
Quote from: SideH@tchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 11, 2023, 11:02:21 am
S.F.’s Anchor Brewing slashes national distribution, cancels cult-favorite Christmas ale

https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/anchor-brewing-company-to-cease-operations-18196284.php
sad news

Obviously the big breweries remember how much money they lost buying breweries they knew nothing about

this has little chance of being bought out
And will just disappear
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on July 12, 2023, 10:50:01 am
Their main beer seemed to get harder to find around here over the past five years.

I really liked them -and Sierra Nevada- for a good stretch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2023, 10:41:09 pm
Quote from: SideH@tchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 12, 2023, 10:41:10 am
Quote from: vansmack on July 12, 2023, 09:42:50 am


https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/anchor-brewing-company-to-cease-operations-18196284.php
this has little chance of being bought out
And will just disappear

Well, be happy to eat my words on this one

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dontse/2023/07/15/narragansett-beer-spearheads-efforts-to-save-anchor-brewing/

TIL they purchased Rhode Island’s Narragansett from Pabst Brewing Company in 2005 and has grown it into the 27th largest craft brewery in America,(Narragansett was founded in 1890)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 23, 2023, 08:42:34 am
Quote from: SideH@tchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2023, 10:41:09 pm
Quote from: SideH@tchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 12, 2023, 10:41:10 am
Quote from: vansmack on July 12, 2023, 09:42:50 am


https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/anchor-brewing-company-to-cease-operations-18196284.php
this has little chance of being bought out
And will just disappear

Well, be happy to eat my words on this one

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dontse/2023/07/15/narragansett-beer-spearheads-efforts-to-save-anchor-brewing/

TIL they purchased Rhode Island’s Narragansett from Pabst Brewing Company in 2005 and has grown it into the 27th largest craft brewery in America,(Narragansett was founded in 1890)

Anchor employee union makes intent to buy it
https://twitter.com/anchorunionsf/status/1682774800308273152
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 24, 2023, 02:52:48 pm
What do 750's of Cantillon normally go for?

I was in the El Cortes Ingles Department store at 9:30 pm on our last night in Lisbon before flying home. We had to catch an Uber to the airport at about 4am if I recall. I saw 750 bottles of the Lambic for 26 Euros. My options were:

1. But one and drink it warm 6 hours before our flight.
2. Pay 70 Euros to check a bag (discount fare with carry on bags only)
3. Pass on it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on July 24, 2023, 03:07:41 pm
El Corte Inglés is awesome! I order stuff from them
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 24, 2023, 03:27:17 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on July 24, 2023, 02:52:48 pm
What do 750's of Cantillon normally go for?

I was in the El Cortes Ingles Department store at 9:30 pm on our last night in Lisbon before flying home. We had to catch an Uber to the airport at about 4am if I recall. I saw 750 bottles of the Lambic for 26 Euros. My options were:

1. But one and drink it warm 6 hours before our flight.
2. Pay 70 Euros to check a bag (discount fare with carry on bags only)
3. Pass on it.

I mean... that's a loaded question. If it was a shelfie loon, half that... If it was a seasonal (which I'm sure it wasn't), probably about accurate pricing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 25, 2023, 02:12:10 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 24, 2023, 02:52:48 pm
What do 750's of Cantillon normally go for?

reddit: Cantillon Prices at Brewery (https://www.reddit.com/r/beer/comments/1203waj/cantillon_prices_at_brewery/) (from 4 months ago)

per this image (https://i.imgur.com/9S5Byuc.jpg), to-go 750's were €7.50 for standard geuze, and up to €15 for fruited/dry-hopped (mind you, the two on offer weren't their top-notch exclusives like lou pepe or foufoune).  i'd expect prices at a retail reseller, in another country, to be higher... but still, hopefully €26 was for a non-standard.

paying €70 for a suitcase full of 'loons would have been economical, had you planned for it - but probably impossible to pull off on the spur of the moment the night you're leaving euroland.  paying €70 to bring home 2 bottles wouldn't make sense.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 25, 2023, 07:38:40 am
It said lambic bio on the bottle. Is that thr standard gueze?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on July 25, 2023, 08:22:06 am
Quote from: Space Freely on July 25, 2023, 07:38:40 am
It said lambic bio on the bottle. Is that thr standard gueze?

yes

edit: looking forward to space's beer advocate copy and paste rebuttal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 10, 2023, 02:33:50 pm
Could have gone in the weed thread

Seattle’s Redhook Brewery has been sold by Anheuser-Busch to cannabis company Tilray Brands in an eight-beverage brand deal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 21, 2023, 10:14:48 pm
Quote from: Stollen-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 05:06:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 05:01:07 pm
Commonwealth Brewing to open an Old Town Fairfax location.

I can thi of a number of others I'd prefer, but I'll gladly take it.
That’s awesome, one of my favorite breweries

Labor Day Weekend

https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/08/18/new-brewery-on-tap-to-arrive-in-old-town-fairfax-on-labor-day-weekend/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2023, 10:09:50 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 21, 2023, 10:14:48 pm
Quote from: Stollen-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 05:06:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 05:01:07 pm
Commonwealth Brewing to open an Old Town Fairfax location.

I can thi of a number of others I'd prefer, but I'll gladly take it.
That’s awesome, one of my favorite breweries

Labor Day Weekend

https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/08/18/new-brewery-on-tap-to-arrive-in-old-town-fairfax-on-labor-day-weekend/

I could've sworn they went out of business years ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 22, 2023, 10:44:00 am
Quote from: Yada on August 22, 2023, 10:09:50 am
Quote from: Space Freely on August 21, 2023, 10:14:48 pm
Quote from: Stollen-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 05:06:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 05:01:07 pm
Commonwealth Brewing to open an Old Town Fairfax location.

I can thi of a number of others I'd prefer, but I'll gladly take it.
That’s awesome, one of my favorite breweries

Labor Day Weekend

https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/08/18/new-brewery-on-tap-to-arrive-in-old-town-fairfax-on-labor-day-weekend/

I could've sworn they went out of business years ago.

You must be thinking of someone else. They get their cans, bottles, and kegs pretty regularly at Dominion. Probably other places too,
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on August 31, 2023, 04:28:08 pm
this....

https://www.rockvillemd.gov/1952/Rocktobierfest
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 05, 2023, 04:17:35 pm
Julie confirms on Instagram that Denizen's is closing the Silver Spring location on October 22. Riverdale Park will remain open.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 05, 2023, 04:33:19 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on September 05, 2023, 04:17:35 pm
Julie confirms on Instagram that Denizen's is closing the Silver Spring location on October 22. Riverdale Park will remain open.

Who is Julie?

Does that mean that Downtown Silver Spring will be left with no breweries?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on September 05, 2023, 04:49:19 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 05, 2023, 04:33:19 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on September 05, 2023, 04:17:35 pm
Julie confirms on Instagram that Denizen's is closing the Silver Spring location on October 22. Riverdale Park will remain open.

Who is Julie?

Does that mean that Downtown Silver Spring will be left with no breweries?

Julie Verratti is one of the co-founders of Denizens. The team laid the groundwork for changing the laws in Montgomery County to allow for brewpubs, local production and distribution. Denizens was the first ever brewpub in Montgomery County, having opened in 2013. They really paved the way for your favorite local MoCo spots...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 28, 2023, 12:05:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 21, 2023, 10:14:48 pm
Quote from: Stollen-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 05:06:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 05:01:07 pm
Commonwealth Brewing to open an Old Town Fairfax location.

I can thi of a number of others I'd prefer, but I'll gladly take it.
That’s awesome, one of my favorite breweries

Labor Day Weekend

https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/08/18/new-brewery-on-tap-to-arrive-in-old-town-fairfax-on-labor-day-weekend/

Finally happening tomorrow.

Soft Opening hours Fri: 11am-10pm

Regular hours after tomorrow
Mon-Thurs: 11am-10pm
Fri & Sat: 11am-Midnight
Sun: 11am-10pm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 28, 2023, 02:39:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 28, 2023, 12:05:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 21, 2023, 10:14:48 pm
Quote from: Stollen-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 05:06:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 05:01:07 pm
Commonwealth Brewing to open an Old Town Fairfax location.

I can thi of a number of others I'd prefer, but I'll gladly take it.
That’s awesome, one of my favorite breweries

Labor Day Weekend

https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/08/18/new-brewery-on-tap-to-arrive-in-old-town-fairfax-on-labor-day-weekend/

Finally happening tomorrow.

Soft Opening hours Fri: 11am-10pm

Regular hours after tomorrow
Mon-Thurs: 11am-10pm
Fri & Sat: 11am-Midnight
Sun: 11am-10pm
that Fairfax location...I remember it used to be a live music venue in the basement
I am pretty sure Hutch and I saw emmit swimming there, but only thing I can remember is watching OJ's white bronco on the TVs there
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 02, 2023, 09:31:55 am
Quote from: hanky/lanky-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 28, 2023, 02:39:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on September 28, 2023, 12:05:27 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on August 21, 2023, 10:14:48 pm
Quote from: Stollen-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2023, 05:06:57 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on April 06, 2023, 05:01:07 pm
Commonwealth Brewing to open an Old Town Fairfax location.

I can thi of a number of others I'd prefer, but I'll gladly take it.
That’s awesome, one of my favorite breweries

Labor Day Weekend

https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/08/18/new-brewery-on-tap-to-arrive-in-old-town-fairfax-on-labor-day-weekend/

Finally happening tomorrow.

Soft Opening hours Fri: 11am-10pm

Regular hours after tomorrow
Mon-Thurs: 11am-10pm
Fri & Sat: 11am-Midnight
Sun: 11am-10pm
that Fairfax location...I remember it used to be a live music venue in the basement
I am pretty sure Hutch and I saw emmit swimming there, but only thing I can remember is watching OJ's white bronco on the TVs there

Went last night.

In advance, my thought was...I'd rather it be a Fairfax location for the Veil, Triple Crossing, the Answer, Wheatland Spring, or maybe even Ocelot. But I like (not love) Commonwealth, so I'll take them.

Space (the place, not me) was nice (big!), beers (5 oz, 10 oz, 16 oz pours for everything except the 14.5% stout, which you don't want a pint of anyway)) were good (and noticeably cheaper than the beers are nearby High Side...which is the other good craft beer option in Old Town Fairfax)...food was pretty good, staff were friiendly and helpful. 15 min drive from my house, I'll definitely go there again. Better than Aslin Alexandria, which is about 15 mins from my house as well.

I asked if they'd be brewing beer there...apparently not because there's a business underneath...all beer will be shipped from VA Beach location.

Seems like they're going to need to sell a lot of beer for that big space. Hope they do.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 02, 2023, 10:00:02 am
This seems like a not-so-subtle way of introducing a new Space metric: quality vs. distance.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 02, 2023, 10:05:45 am
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 02, 2023, 10:00:02 am
This seems like a not-so-subtle way of introducing a new Space metric: quality vs. distance.

Maybe that would also help explain why I've never been to Fillmore Silver Spring, but have been to Union Stage multiple times.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 02, 2023, 10:20:13 am
They don't book the same acts, so its not really a fair comparison.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 02, 2023, 10:53:52 am
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 02, 2023, 10:20:13 am
They don't book the same acts, so its not really a fair comparison.

irrelevant metric.  we need to look at if they serve the same beers, and if so at what price.  background noise is irrelevant.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 02, 2023, 11:01:36 am
Last time I went to FSS, I ordered a bourbon. Bartender picked up Jim Beam and asked if that was OK, saying it's all they had. I spotted the Maker's Mark over her shoulder and requested that instead...

So yeah, FSS has its problems, but the Breeders aren't playing Union Stage any time soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 02, 2023, 12:52:43 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 02, 2023, 11:01:36 am
Last time I went to FSS, I ordered a bourbon. Bartender picked up Jim Beam and asked if that was OK, saying it's all they had. I spotted the Maker's Mark over her shoulder...
Maybe you looked poor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 02, 2023, 01:08:36 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 02, 2023, 11:01:36 am
Last time I went to FSS, I ordered a bourbon. Bartender picked up Jim Beam and asked if that was OK, saying it's all they had. I spotted the Maker's Mark over her shoulder and requested that instead...

So yeah, FSS has its problems, but the Breeders aren't playing Union Stage any time soon.

Aside from their two or three hits songs, the Breeders are pretty unlistenable. And now they're 30 years past their prime. But that wasn't my point.

The point was that for me, Union Stage is a much closer distance, and their schedule offers the occasional (like a couple times a year) quality performer to justify the 20 minute drive and price of admission. The Fillmore Silver Spring has never offered anything worth driving 45 minutes (probably a lot more on a weeknight) and pay the price of admission for.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on October 02, 2023, 06:19:35 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 02, 2023, 01:08:36 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 02, 2023, 11:01:36 am
Last time I went to FSS, I ordered a bourbon. Bartender picked up Jim Beam and asked if that was OK, saying it's all they had. I spotted the Maker's Mark over her shoulder and requested that instead...

So yeah, FSS has its problems, but the Breeders aren't playing Union Stage any time soon.

Aside from their two or three hits songs, the Breeders are pretty unlistenable. And now they're 30 years past their prime. But that wasn't my point.

The point was that for me, Union Stage is a much closer distance, and their schedule offers the occasional (like a couple times a year) quality performer to justify the 20 minute drive and price of admission. The Fillmore Silver Spring has never offered anything worth driving 45 minutes (probably a lot more on a weeknight) and pay the price of admission for.

I'm sorry you have such sour feelings about missing The Breeders. How many hits does Joy Oladokun have?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 02, 2023, 06:32:55 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 02, 2023, 06:19:35 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 02, 2023, 01:08:36 pm
Quote from: Heilung4eva on October 02, 2023, 11:01:36 am
Last time I went to FSS, I ordered a bourbon. Bartender picked up Jim Beam and asked if that was OK, saying it's all they had. I spotted the Maker's Mark over her shoulder and requested that instead...

So yeah, FSS has its problems, but the Breeders aren't playing Union Stage any time soon.

Aside from their two or three hits songs, the Breeders are pretty unlistenable. And now they're 30 years past their prime. But that wasn't my point.

The point was that for me, Union Stage is a much closer distance, and their schedule offers the occasional (like a couple times a year) quality performer to justify the 20 minute drive and price of admission. The Fillmore Silver Spring has never offered anything worth driving 45 minutes (probably a lot more on a weeknight) and pay the price of admission for.

I'm sorry you have such sour feelings about missing The Breeders. How many hits does Joy Oladokun have?

I'm not sure what a hit is in basketball, but did you know he's the only player to ever have more than 200 blocked shots and 200 steals in the same season?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 07, 2023, 01:06:50 pm
Don't know if any of Y'all still drink the stuff, but Churchkey and Shelter have to go four packs of Heady Topper and Focal Banger for 16 plus tax.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 07, 2023, 03:25:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 07, 2023, 01:06:50 pm
Don't know if any of Y'all still drink the stuff, but Churchkey and Shelter have to go four packs of Heady Topper and Focal Banger for 16 plus tax.

It's only $12 in vermont... probably worth the savings to drive there and back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 07, 2023, 03:46:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 07, 2023, 03:25:55 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 07, 2023, 01:06:50 pm
Don't know if any of Y'all still drink the stuff, but Churchkey and Shelter have to go four packs of Heady Topper and Focal Banger for 16 plus tax.

It's only $12 in vermont... probably worth the savings to drive there and back.

13 at the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 11, 2023, 12:34:35 pm
 the National Museum of American History's annual beer-focused public program

Last Call: American Beer in a Changing Climate
Friday, November 3, 2023, 6:30-9:00 pm
Smithsonian's National Museum of American History
12th and Constitution Aves. NW
Washington, DC, 20560
>>>> Tickets: $40; can be purchased HERE <<<<
>>>> Use code FRIENDSFAMILY for $5 off!! <<<<
From field to glass, American beer is vulnerable to the varied effects of a changing climate. Nevertheless, creative thinkers are making American beer resilient, responsive, and environmentally and socially sustainable.
Join us for a conversation that I will moderate with:
Andrea Stanley, founder of Valley Malt in Holyoke, Massachusetts, which is creating a local malting supply chain for New England farms, breweries, and distilleries; working with grain varieties that improve soil and water; and sourcing 100% renewable hydroelectric power.
Victoria Garza, Latin America Sales Manager at Yakima Chief Hops in Yakima, Washington, and co-founder of the annual “Sesiones del Migrante” beer collaboration, which honors the labor and expertise of migrant Mexican hop workers in the Pacific Northwest.
Denise Ford-Sawadogo, co-owner of Montclair Brewery in Montclair, New Jersey, whose beers feature a rich range of ingredients–many drawn from Denise and her husband Leo’s West African and Caribbean heritages—including fonio, sorghum, baobab, and hibiscus, which are well adapted to warmer climates.
Morgan Owle-Crisp, co-owner of 7 Clans Brewing in Asheville, North Carolina, whose woman-owned and Cherokee-owned brewery’s beers are rooted in Cherokees’ harmonious relationship with their homeland and feature ingredients such as cornmeal, sassafras, honeynut squash, muscadine grapes, and chestnut.
During the event, attendees will enjoy:
8 5-oz. tastes of beer, poured by:
7 Clans Brewing, Asheville, NC
Montclair Brewery, Montclair, NJ
DC Homebrewers, Washington, DC - pouring 2 beers that feature the hops grown in the Victory Garden at the American History Museum
A DMV farm brewery, stay tuned
Small bites
An Objects Out of Storage display showcasing artifacts and records collected from historic Anchor Brewing Co. in San Francisco, days before its liquidation
After-hours access to exhibitions, including FOOD: Transforming the American Table, with "Brewing a Revolution," showing artifacts from early homebrewing and microbrewing history donated by Fritz Maytag, Charlie Papazian, Michael Lewis, Ken Grossman, Kim Jordan, Jack McAuliffe, Bill Owens, and others
​Theresa McCulla, PhD
Curator, American Brewing History Initiative
Division of Work and Industry
National Museum of American History
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, DC
mccullat@si.edu | (202) 633-7599
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bagley on October 12, 2023, 02:00:16 pm
My wife and I enjoyed our first visit to Elder Pine Brewing last weekend after a nice mellow hike at the Rachel Carson Conservation park, conveniently located adjacent to the brewery.  The New Zealand style pilsner was great as was the pulled pork sandwich.  It was a little chilly  so we hung inside.  Too bad, because the pine forest setting in back of the brewery was extremely inviting!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2023, 02:42:41 pm
Quote from: Bagley on October 12, 2023, 02:00:16 pm
My wife and I enjoyed our first visit to Elder Pine Brewing last weekend after a nice mellow hike at the Rachel Carson Conservation park, conveniently located adjacent to the brewery.  The New Zealand style pilsner was great as was the pulled pork sandwich.  It was a little chilly  so we hung inside.  Too bad, because the pine forest setting in back of the brewery was extremely inviting!

Won't be having the pulled pork, but can confirm the rest.

Ender Pine does a lot of styles well, and the forest is lovely.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 16, 2023, 02:14:09 pm
Anyone been to this place, in Alexandria?

https://www.miezabeer.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2023, 02:31:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 16, 2023, 02:14:09 pm
Anyone been to this place, in Alexandria?

https://www.miezabeer.com/

based on their "on tap" menu, this place has definite potential.  if anyone hits this place, please post a review!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 16, 2023, 04:17:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 16, 2023, 02:14:09 pm
Anyone been to this place, in Alexandria?

https://www.miezabeer.com/

Brennser is part owner.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 16, 2023, 04:36:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 16, 2023, 04:17:04 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 16, 2023, 02:14:09 pm
Anyone been to this place, in Alexandria?

https://www.miezabeer.com/

Brennser is part owner.
wow this came in under the radar and I'm Interested
just went live in June
I never know when yada is telling the truth, and he relishes that
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2023, 07:53:30 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 16, 2023, 04:17:04 pm
Brennser is part owner.

for realz??  would explain why he doesn't have time to hang out on the board anymore...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hutch on October 16, 2023, 08:17:22 pm
He was always such a heavy presence….


Where is koshmar by the way? He hasn’t had a question about his tickets in an unusually long time!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 26, 2023, 11:56:54 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2023/10/25/best-cheap-beers-beach-tailgate-dive-bar/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2023, 04:19:37 pm
Cue Yada telling us how Tree House is so three years ago...

Tree House Brewing to Open Saratoga Springs Taproom in 2024

https://thisweekinworcester.com/treehouse-brewing-saratoga-spring-2024/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on October 27, 2023, 07:46:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 27, 2023, 04:19:37 pm
Cue Yada telling us how Tree House is so three years ago...

Tree House Brewing to Open Saratoga Springs Taproom in 2024

https://thisweekinworcester.com/treehouse-brewing-saratoga-spring-2024/

While that's true, I'm more interested in who is funding their multiple expansions.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2023, 08:07:47 pm
Quote from: Yada on October 27, 2023, 07:46:26 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 27, 2023, 04:19:37 pm
Cue Yada telling us how Tree House is so three years ago...

Tree House Brewing to Open Saratoga Springs Taproom in 2024

https://thisweekinworcester.com/treehouse-brewing-saratoga-spring-2024/

While that's true, I'm more interested in who is funding their multiple expansions.

Brennser
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 31, 2023, 08:12:19 pm
in case anyone cares (unlikely) - CBS is coming back in december.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 31, 2023, 08:43:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 31, 2023, 08:12:19 pm
in case anyone cares (unlikely) - CBS is coming back in december.

I'm in for a four pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 01, 2023, 03:42:23 pm
The Anchor Brewery Building is for sale - $40mil
https://offplanpropertyexchange.com/news/anchor-brewing-property-in-san-francisco-hits-the-market/242823/

The Anchor brand itself is also up for sale, but it is not included in the price tag of the property.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 14, 2023, 02:19:02 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on October 16, 2023, 02:31:16 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on October 16, 2023, 02:14:09 pm
Anyone been to this place, in Alexandria?

https://www.miezabeer.com/

based on their "on tap" menu, this place has definite potential.  if anyone hits this place, please post a review!

A number of years ago, my brother and I started a competition to see who visits the most breweries. Until recently, I was stuck on #299. I: needed something worthy of being #300.

A couple of weeks ago, we drove down 81 to do a couple of college visits. I decided to veer off 81 and take some back roads just for fun. While driving, I noticed that we were near Salem, VA. I remembered that I had once thrifted a hat from the Salem, VA brewery know as Parkway. I realized that we were 10 minutes away. So we stopped, and I thought I was going to bag #300. However, their beer menu looked pretty underwhelming and the place itself just didn't look all that inviting, so we skipped it.

So I decided to make Mieza Beer #300 this past weekend. We dropped our daughter off at Panera, where she studied her schoolwork and perhaps eyed the boys, and were on our way for a little date at Mieza.

The place was in a low key strip mall and was rather unassuming. There was another couple and a multi-generational family also there. Both with dogs. We've never been take your dog to the brewery people and our dog just passed...so whatever.

The server was an older gentleman who I can only assume was Brennser's dad. If so, he did a great job of hiding his accent and pouring the beer.

We ordered six four once pours (two mixed culture saisons, three barrel aged fruited sours, and the one stout). I don't rate beers on untappd, but if I did, I'd say they were all between 4.0 and 4.4....which is a bit higher than the current 3.84 average this place currently has on uptappd...though I purposely picked higher rated beers...All beer were very good to nearly excellent. Prices were a little high, though that was exacerbated by choosing four ounce pours instead of the full eight ounce pours. You are allowed to bring your own food, which we did. Some funky cheeses to go with the funky beer.

Yes, we will go back. This area is definitely in need of more local funky beer, and this place hits the mark. Happy for it to be #300.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 14, 2023, 02:28:34 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 14, 2023, 02:19:02 pm
.

The server was an older gentleman who I can only assume was Brennser's dad. If so, he did a great job of hiding his accent and pouring the beer.
nice touch!
and nice review, was just thinking of visiting this place
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 14, 2023, 07:46:36 pm
thanks for the intel, space!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 14, 2023, 08:45:59 pm
I miss the days of funky beer not giving me immediate acid reflux burn.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 14, 2023, 09:47:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 14, 2023, 08:45:59 pm
I miss the days of funky beer not giving me immediate acid reflux burn.

Tums is perhaps the greatest invention ever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on November 14, 2023, 10:10:02 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on November 14, 2023, 09:47:25 pm
Quote from: Yada on November 14, 2023, 08:45:59 pm
I miss the days of funky beer not giving me immediate acid reflux burn.

Tums is perhaps the greatest invention ever.

I'm a pepcid guy myself.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 26, 2023, 04:53:12 pm
Well this sucks because it's maybe my favourite beer place in Richmond. It also sucks because it's maybe my favourite beer style and it sounds like pastry stouts and sours are winning the war.

Come help us wish The Funkhaüst Cafe a fond farewell on Friday, December 1st 5pm-9pm!
We’ve made the tough decision to close our Funkhaüst Cafe to the public after our final bash on Friday December 1st from 5-9pm. We have decided to greatly reduce our wild/spontaneous beer program due to the declining interest in wild/spontaneous beers in the industry as a whole. We plan on reallocating the majority of our Dabney Rd location to some needed office spaces and expanding some of our wholesale operations.

Have no fear though! Wild/spontaneous beers are deeply rooted in the origins of The Veil, and we will continue to produce these beers, just in much smaller volumes. We also have some wild/spontaneous beers conditioning away to be released through the next few years, so keep your eyes peeled for those!

With all of that said, we will be cordially parting ways with our Funkhaüst Manager Pizza Nick(@pizzanickdanger) after the bulk of the program has been wound down. Nick has been an integral part of everything funky and wild here at The Veil for many years and we genuinely appreciate his hard work, knowledge, and passion he shared with us. We want to send a sincere thank you out to one of the most talented saison/wild beer brewers ever. Only love and peace to Nick and we wish him the best of luck moving forward. We are sincerely and eternally grateful for your time with us.

TBT El Gallo will be joining us that evening for some delicious tacos! DJ Tim Skirven will be playing the hitz!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 30, 2023, 01:33:44 pm
this is a great joke that kind of sums up the problem with the craft beer drinker

 A man walks into a bar. He orders a beer and takes a sip. “Wow, that’s the best beer I’ve ever tasted,” he tells the brewer. “What else do you have?”
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 30, 2023, 01:46:01 pm
There is a limited edition Velocity Girl beer is hitting the streets, some even available at the Black Cat Shows this weekend

Some details here

https://x.com/VelocityGirlDC/status/1729915401419563301?s=20

more details on The Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100091826422416
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 30, 2023, 01:57:18 pm
You had me at Munich style dark lager
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: grateful on November 30, 2023, 03:30:35 pm
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 30, 2023, 06:20:09 pm
Woah who knew Cushwa/Rad Pies had opened a second location in Columbia.

https://untappd.com/v/cushwa-and-rad-pies-taproom/12172378

Sapwood Cellars and Cushwa, that's quite a one two punch. Might make me never arrive for the Merriweather show.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 05, 2023, 01:48:51 pm
Happy Prohibition Repeal Day to all who celebrate
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 24, 2023, 02:15:26 am
ruh-oh...

Trouble brewing at Tree House Brewing (https://washingtonbeerblog.com/trouble-brewing-at-tree-house-brewing/)

(i know, i know, treehouse is so three years ago...)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 24, 2023, 02:59:37 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on December 24, 2023, 02:15:26 am
ruh-oh...

Trouble brewing at Tree House Brewing (https://washingtonbeerblog.com/trouble-brewing-at-tree-house-brewing/)

(i know, i know, treehouse is so three years ago...)
\

And that story is so five weeks ago.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/suit-filed-against-tree-house-brewing-partners-over-lavish-lifestyles-skirting-shareholders/ar-AA1kfKHg
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 06, 2024, 03:23:42 pm
My arlington homebrew club is hosting. Alex from Mieza blendery

We can’t wait for Wednesday’s GRiST meeting which will feature Alex Lynch’s of @miezablendery education session on beer blending. Grab a beer, we have some recommendations 🤩, and take a listen to @dcbeer episode featuring Alex: https://share.transistor.fm/s/7f1e7765
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 23, 2024, 07:26:04 am
Still hope that anchor might come back
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/bidders-san-francisco-anchor-brewing/3430453/

Or get bought by a developer and become condos
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2024, 11:10:57 am
Wilco beer news

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3sbqC6L7PM/?igsh=MTRoaDUwbTBqN3lvZw==
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2024, 09:18:09 am
I went to Lost Generation yesterday (302nd brewery visited). Great place! Lots of dogs and kids, was barely able to get a seat..even on a Sunday afternoon. Who said craft beer was dead? Their dark lager was excellent, as were the tacos from the food truck. I had previously had one of their IPA's...which I found too malty....stick with Other Half down the street for the hops.

I guess I know why Other Half is always so dead....everyone is at Lost Generation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 09, 2024, 12:29:21 pm
Now it’s personal

Production of Duvel beer hit by cyber-attack
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brennser on March 23, 2024, 07:25:44 pm
Heady Topper 20th anniversary is quite good