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Title: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: miss pretentious on October 01, 2007, 11:48:00 am
...so read something already.
 
 "The Office for Intellectual Freedom tracks challenges to this literary aspect of our Civil Liberties, and while it currently updating totals from its 2000-2005 records, it offers some surprising and under-reported statistics for the ten year period that covered the 1990??s.
 
 OIF recorded at least 6,364 challenges to shelved books available in America??s schools and libraries. The number of challenges and the number of reasons for those challenges do not match, because works are often challenged on more than one ground. Here??s a rundown of those objections:
 
 1,607 were challenges to ??sexually explicit? material ;
 1,427 to material considered to use ??offensive language?;
 1,256 to material considered ??unsuited to age group?;
 842 to material with an ??occult theme or promoting the occult or Satanism?;
 737 to material considered to be ??violent?;
 515 to material with a homosexual theme or ??promoting homosexuality?;
 419 to material ??promoting a religious viewpoint.?
 
 Also, how many of these have you read/re-read and loved? The top 100 banned books can be found  here. (http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2007/09/30/banned-books-have-you-read-one/)
 
 My favorite banned book is "The Perks of Being a Wallflower" but I also love "Of Mice and Men," anything by Shel Silverstein and "To Kill a Mockingbird." Same with the Harry Potter series... etc...
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 01, 2007, 12:07:00 pm
Why were Shel Silverstein books banned?
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: miss pretentious on October 01, 2007, 12:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
  Why were Shel Silverstein books banned?
I'm really not 100 percent on that...I think it was mainly "The Light in the Attic" that was banned, but here is what I was able to find out about it...
 
 * A Light in the Attic. Shel Silverstein. Harper. Challenged at the Cunningham Elementary School in Beloit, Wis. (1985) because the book "enourages children to break dishes so they won't have to dry them." Removed from Minot, N.Dak. Public School libraries when the superintendent found "suggestive illustrations." Challenged at the Big Bend Elementary School library in Mukwonago, Wis. (1986) because some of Silverstein's poems "glorified Satan, suicide and cannibalism, and also encouraged children to be disobedient."
 
 * Where the Sidewalk Ends. Shel Silverstein. Harper. Challenged at the West Allis-West Milwaukee, Wis. school libraries (1986) because the book "suggests drug use, the occult, suicide, death, violence, disrespect for truth, disrespect for legitimate authority, rebellion against parents." Challenged at the Central Columbia School District in Bloomsburg, Pa. (1993) because a poem titled "Dreadful" talks about how "someone ate the baby." On the other hand, this book does present the negative consequences of not taking the garbage out.
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: vansmack on October 01, 2007, 12:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  On the other hand, this book does present the negative consequences of not taking the garbage out.
Awesome.  
 
 And my kids will read every book on that list.
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: Cali on October 01, 2007, 12:49:00 pm
i never understood that list. i'm sure i've read many of those books, from a quick glance i remember...
 
 Of Mice and Men
 The Bluest Eye
 The Outsiders
 A Light in the Attic
 Brave New World
 Mark Twain and Huckelberry Fin
 
 i can understand if they dont want an elementary child to read some of these, but highschool?
 
 many of those books are soo relevant now like brave new world
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: Samantha on October 01, 2007, 12:49:00 pm
I am reading a book with pictures of naked people in it, does that count?
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 01, 2007, 02:20:00 pm
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Originally posted by Cali:
  i'm sure i've read many of those books, from a quick glance i remember...
 
 Mark Twain and Huckelberry Fin
 
 i can understand if they dont want an elementary child to read some of these, but highschool?
 
well, twain has problems in his word usage; while using the "n" word may have been accepted in the course of normal conversation in the 1880s, we are far more advanced in our ability to place modern viewpoints upon novels at the exclusion of considering a word in its historical context.
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: pj on October 01, 2007, 02:43:00 pm
In a strange coincidence, I resolved the other day to read "Catcher in the Rye" - that surely has to be on their list.
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Post by: xneverwherex on October 01, 2007, 03:47:00 pm
im always amazed when i see a good chunk of judy blume's books on the list. what girl didnt read 'are you there god, its me margaret?' at some point in her life. and everyone i knew owned 'go ask alice' - anonymous. sad how a good chunk of the books on the list involve women and sexuality.
 
 im somewhat surprised 'girl, interrupted' didnt make the list.
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: Samantha on October 01, 2007, 05:40:00 pm
I didn't.  I've never read a Judy Blume book.
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: vansmack on October 01, 2007, 06:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by Samantha:
  I didn't.  I've never read a Judy Blume book.
Really?  Even I've read a couple...
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: taperkat on October 02, 2007, 09:47:00 am
Read every single book on that list... no wonder my boss loves me   :D
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: Samantha on October 02, 2007, 09:51:00 am
It just never occurred to me to read her.
 
 I haven't read very many of the banned books on the list.  I guess I'm just not very controversial  :p
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 02, 2007, 12:35:00 pm
If they ever ban Curious George my Rory will go postal on them!!!!
 
 I'm betting the same idiots who tried to ban JK Rowling also dress their kids up for trick or treating come Oct 31st.
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Post by: Brian_Wallace on October 02, 2007, 12:56:00 pm
I never understood the furor over banned books.  Public/Private schools have a right to restrict what's in their libraries.  Once you say all those books are OK, it will lead to others...it's a slippery slope.  It's a waste of time.  Pick your battles.  They're not BURNING books (cue someone saying that Bush will soon advocate THAT) or even telling them they can't read them.  They're just telling them they can't check them out of the school library.  Big deal.  This isn't a huge censorship issue.  I couldn't check out Judy Blume books at my school library.  I couldn't read Hustler either.  Never harmed me.  It didn't cause me to set my alarm at times that don't end in 0 or 5 or insist that my food not touch.
 
 Brian
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: beetsnotbeats on October 02, 2007, 01:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
  I never understood the furor over banned books.  Public/Private schools have a right to restrict what's in their libraries.  Once you say all those books are OK, it will lead to others...it's a slippery slope.  It's a waste of time.  Pick your battles.  They're not BURNING books (cue someone saying that Bush will soon advocate THAT) or even telling them they can't read them.  They're just telling them they can't check them out of the school library.  Big deal.  This isn't a huge censorship issue.  I couldn't check out Judy Blume books at my school library.  I couldn't read Hustler either.  Never harmed me.  It didn't cause me to set my alarm at times that don't end in 0 or 5 or insist that my food not touch.
 
 Brian
And then I read this:
 
 School District Halts Shakespeare Production
  (http://www.kpho.com/news/14250819/detail.html)
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: Bombay Chutney on October 02, 2007, 02:40:00 pm
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
  And then I read this:
 
 School District Halts Shakespeare Production
  (http://www.kpho.com/news/14250819/detail.html)
I don't know...It's not hard to argue that a show featuring penis jokes isn't really appropriate for a 6th grade field trip.  Of course, it's the school's fault for not knowing about the content in the first place.
 
 I'd also have a hard time justifying why Madonna's   Sex should be in a public school library.
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: TheDirector217 on October 02, 2007, 02:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
  I'd also have a hard time justifying why Madonna's   Sex should be in a public school library.
So those horny fucks have something to beat off, too.  Duh.     :roll:
 
 They gotta do something to stop girls' locker room panty raids . . .
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: Brian_Wallace on October 02, 2007, 03:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
  I'd also have a hard time justifying why Madonna's   Sex should be in a public school library.
I finally clicked on that link.  There are public school libraries that have Madonna's SEX in it!?!?!?!?  Are you SERIOUS?!  Why don't they just have "Deep Throat" in the Videotape section?  That's got to be a joke.  I can't fathom a public school having Madonna's SEX book in circulation.  If my school had that book, I'd never have left the library.
 
 Brian
 
 P.S.  Howard Stern's "Private Parts?"  Why don't they just have back issues of Penthouse from the 70's?  It's a big jump from Judy Blume to Stern's lesbian fantasies.
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2007, 03:20:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
  I never understood the books.  
We know.
Title: Re: It's Banned Books week...
Post by: TheDirector217 on October 02, 2007, 03:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
  It's a big jump from Judy Blume to Stern's lesbian fantasies.
Somebody already beat you to the punch.  It's called Diary Of Anne Frank . . .