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Title: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 19, 2007, 11:06:00 am
Just my opinion.
 
 http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm (http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm)
 
 Wilco, Patterson Hood, and My Morning Jacket all at the same time. Man, that would be tough.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: bnyced0 on June 19, 2007, 11:18:00 am
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Just my opinion.
 
  http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm (http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm)
 
 Wilco, Patterson Hood, and My Morning Jacket all at the same time. Man, that would be tough.
In fairness to those hot, smelly, dirty massess that go to TN every year, Bonaroo has the best "scheduling" of ANY US festival BY FAR, not that it's very difficult to be the best of a shitty situation.  
 
 But with the extended headliner set times, DJ's late night when DJ's should be playing, and nearly 18 hours a day of music.  It's unquestionably the best Scheduling.  
 
 With that said, if they're scheduling and providing extended set times for shitty acts perhaps that's not much of a bargain, but if we could combine Coachella's acts, with Bonaroo's scheduling, with Lollapalooza's location we'd have something.
 
 ACL is good, except for the weather and fact they thought it was a good idea to hold it in a shadless area with the bulk of the acts playing before dusk.
 
 But if you're just talking about avoiding conflicts, there's always enough variety (borderline too much) to keep from crossing genre's too much, for which they deserve accolades.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 19, 2007, 11:22:00 am
I don't know nothing about scheduling and location, having never been. But I'll take ACL's acts over Coachella's acts by a mile.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Vas Deferens on June 19, 2007, 11:27:00 am
Wow, too much conflicts.
 
 LCD vs MIA
 QOTSA vs Spoon
 Arctic Monkeys vs Muse
 Arcade Fire vs White Stripes
 Wilco vs MMJ
 
 Whoever did the scheduling must be shot! Glad I'm not going.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: sweetcell on June 19, 2007, 11:38:00 am
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Just my opinion.
 
     http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm (http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm)    
 
 Wilco, Patterson Hood, and My Morning Jacket all at the same time. Man, that would be tough.
wouldn't your argument in favor of the superiority of ACL be better served by naming some of the good bands on the bill?
 
   
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Originally posted by wanderlust aka j. marshmallow:
  Wow, too much conflicts.
 
 LCD vs MIA
 QOTSA vs Spoon
 Arctic Monkeys vs Muse
 Arcade Fire vs White Stripes
 Wilco vs MMJ
 
 Whoever did the scheduling must be shot! Glad I'm not going.
dunno, those "conflicts" all have clear winners for me.  and on the upside, at least you'll never have the entire festival crowded around one act thus improving your ability to get a decent position, not be crushed, etc.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Dr. Anton Phibes on June 19, 2007, 11:41:00 am
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Just my opinion.
 
  http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm (http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm)
 
 Wilco, Patterson Hood, and My Morning Jacket all at the same time. Man, that would be tough.
Charlie,
 
 Empty your mail box!!!
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: bnyced0 on June 19, 2007, 11:46:00 am
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I don't know nothing about scheduling and location, having never been. But I'll take ACL's acts over Coachella's acts by a mile.
With the exceptions of Dylan, most of the country/blue grass, and obscure local acts...just about everyone on ACL bill in 2007 (and for most of the last 3-4 years) has played Coachella either that year or the preceeding one...so that's not much of mile to travel.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 19, 2007, 11:47:00 am
I forgot to mention Del McCoury is playing at the same time. Four great choices.
 
 
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
 [qb] Just my opinion.
 
      http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm (http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm)    
 
 Wilco, Patterson Hood, and My Morning Jacket all at the same time. Man, that would be tough. [/b]
wouldn't your argument in favor of the superiority of ACL be better served by naming some of the good bands on the bill?
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 19, 2007, 11:49:00 am
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
   if we could combine Coachella's acts, with Bonaroo's scheduling, with Lollapalooza's location we'd have something.
 
couldnt have said it better myself.
 
   and also, to rhett...this scheduling is the exact same format as Lollapalooza. 4 main stages, set in pairs playing opposite each other and then a few other stages scattered about.
 
   so if you are talking about "scheduling" as in how bands are booked to play each stage, its no different.  if you are referring to the particular bands playing opposite each other, than i suppose its all just a matter of what style of music you like.....and i dont think you needed to start a whole thread to inform us you like the country driven ACL lineup better than the alt-rock driven Lolla lineup.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 19, 2007, 11:51:00 am
Gotan Project? Joseph Arthur? Steve Earle? Butch Walker? Midlake? Ben Kweller? the Broken West? Devotchka? Lucinda Williams? Regina Spektor? They all played Coachella in the last two years?
 
 
 
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I don't know nothing about scheduling and location, having never been. But I'll take ACL's acts over Coachella's acts by a mile.
With the exceptions of Dylan, most of the country/blue grass, and obscure local acts...just about everyone on ACL bill in 2007 (and for most of the last 3-4 years) has played Coachella either that year or the preceeding one...so that's not much of mile to travel. [/b]
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 19, 2007, 11:53:00 am
Done!
 
 
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Originally posted by Dr. Anton Phibes:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Just my opinion.
 
   http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm (http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm)  
 
 Wilco, Patterson Hood, and My Morning Jacket all at the same time. Man, that would be tough.
Charlie,
 
 Empty your mail box!!! [/b]
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 19, 2007, 11:53:00 am
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Gotan Project? Joseph Arthur? Steve Earle? Butch Walker? Midlake? Ben Kweller? the Broken West? Devotchka? Lucinda Williams? Regina Spektor? They all played Coachella in the last two years?
 
gotan project played this year.
 
 i saw joesph arthur play at Coachella, perhaps it was back in 03 or 04 though. and i have seen Ben Kweller play at Coachella, and i think Regina Spektor played recently too.
 
 
   so you're down to 6 or 7 now.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: bnyced0 on June 19, 2007, 12:05:00 pm
I'll admit some hyperbole, but I did preface by sayin "just about"...and the larger point is that most of the acts have at some point played Coachella if not in the current/preceeding year and aren't so different that your apparent preference for ACL acts warrants a slagging of Coachella as having inferior booking.  
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Gotan Project? Joseph Arthur? Steve Earle? Butch Walker? Midlake? Ben Kweller? the Broken West? Devotchka? Lucinda Williams? Regina Spektor? They all played Coachella in the last two years?
 
 
   
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I don't know nothing about scheduling and location, having never been. But I'll take ACL's acts over Coachella's acts by a mile.
With the exceptions of Dylan, most of the country/blue grass, and obscure local acts...just about everyone on ACL bill in 2007 (and for most of the last 3-4 years) has played Coachella either that year or the preceeding one...so that's not much of mile to travel. [/b]
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Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: ayates on June 19, 2007, 12:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by wanderlust aka j. marshmallow:
  Wow, too much conflicts.
 
 LCD vs MIA
 QOTSA vs Spoon
 Arctic Monkeys vs Muse
 Arcade Fire vs White Stripes
 Wilco vs MMJ
 
 Whoever did the scheduling must be shot! Glad I'm not going.
Don't like either.
 QOTSA is a clear cut winner.
 I have seen Arctice Monkeys twice so it's Muse.
 I have seen both The White Stripes and Arcade Fire but Arcade Fire is extremely boring.  They were at this year's Coachella anyway.
 Wilco.
 Done.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Celeste on June 19, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by le sonick:
 and i dont think you needed to start a whole thread to inform us you like the country driven ACL lineup better than the alt-rock driven Lolla lineup.
at least it's about music and not about racial baiting or hating or shit like that
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 19, 2007, 01:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by The Vessel:
   
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Originally posted by le sonick:
 and i dont think you needed to start a whole thread to inform us you like the country driven ACL lineup better than the alt-rock driven Lolla lineup.
at least it's about music and not about racial baiting or hating or shit like that [/b]
what are you? his wife?
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Vas Deferens on June 19, 2007, 01:28:00 pm
How is it kick ass when all 3 are playing at the same time?!
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Just my opinion.
 
  http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm (http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm)
 
 Wilco, Patterson Hood, and My Morning Jacket all at the same time. Man, that would be tough.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Firebutt McGee on June 19, 2007, 03:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by wanderlust aka j. marshmallow:
  Wow, too much conflicts.
 
 LCD vs MIA
 QOTSA vs Spoon
 Arctic Monkeys vs Muse
 Arcade Fire vs White Stripes
 Wilco vs MMJ
 
 Whoever did the scheduling must be shot! Glad I'm not going.
I'm choosing:
 
 MIA.
 QOTSA.
 Muse.
 White Stripes.
 MMJ.
 
 --
 After the LCD/Arcade Fire tour announcement and the schedule at the same day, it makes it VERY clear who to see!
 
 It's just...wow. SO good. (But I'm not knocking other festivals!)
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: bnyced0 on June 20, 2007, 09:17:00 am
ACL is important but not because they book better than other festivals, but rather they effectively extend the festival season almost another month.  Due to their draw, off shoots can reasonably fill a bill,   KROQ usually has their Back to the Future shows during ACL weekend and drafts off its roster.  This year one of the more interesting new efforts and whatâ??s keeping me from Austin is Monolith outside Denver, itâ??s basically a bigger Pitchfork, or a poor manâ??s Coachella depending on your perspective.  And of course the aformentioned Treasure Island Music Fest fits the category as well.
 
  http://www.monolithfestival.com/_schedule-music/lineup.shtml (http://www.monolithfestival.com/_schedule-music/lineup.shtml)
 
     <img src="http://www.monolithfestival.com/_gui/monolith_2007lineup.gif" alt=" - " />
 
 
  http://www.treasureislandfestival.com/ (http://www.treasureislandfestival.com/)
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 21, 2007, 01:31:00 pm
neither
 Spoon (though nota big fan by any means)
 neither
 neither
 Wilco (this would really be the only major confict for me the whole three days)
 
 There's nobody playing after 7:30 pm on any of the three days that I'd want to see, but I still think it's a great lineup. But then again, I'm biased toward the country, bluegrass, and the more poppy side of indie that ACL seems to highlight.
 
 
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Originally posted by wanderlust aka j. marshmallow:
  Wow, too much conflicts.
 
 LCD vs MIA
 QOTSA vs Spoon
 Arctic Monkeys vs Muse
 Arcade Fire vs White Stripes
 Wilco vs MMJ
 
 Whoever did the scheduling must be shot! Glad I'm not going.
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: sweetcell on June 21, 2007, 02:23:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  There's nobody playing after 7:30 pm on any of the three days that I'd want to see, but I still think it's a great lineup.
i thought the old and the crotchety were in bed by 7:30 anyways... no wonder you like this line-up better!   :)
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 21, 2007, 02:26:00 pm
I can usually last until 10 pm. 7:30 would be a good departure time, beat the crowds out.
 
 Still, my bet is that we'll end up doing the occasional Lolla, Pitchfork, or Bumbershoot Fests rather than ACL, Bonnaroo, or Coachella, since we have relatives in Chicago and Seattle.
 
 
   
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  There's nobody playing after 7:30 pm on any of the three days that I'd want to see, but I still think it's a great lineup.
i thought people as old and crotchety as you are in bed by 7:30 anyways... no wonder you like this line-up better!    :)   [/b]
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Vas Deferens on June 21, 2007, 02:27:00 pm
You should have gone to Stagecoach Festival...
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
 
  But then again, I'm biased toward the country, bluegrass, and the more poppy side of indie that ACL seems to highlight.
 
Title: Re: Sorry Bonaroo and Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits Fest
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 21, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
I would have if it had been held in VA. Still, the ACL Fest lineup offers more musical diversity, which I like.
 
 
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Originally posted by wanderlust aka j. marshmallow:
  You should have gone to Stagecoach Festival...
 
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
 
  But then again, I'm biased toward the country, bluegrass, and the more poppy side of indie that ACL seems to highlight.
 
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