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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: palahniukkubrick on November 04, 2004, 05:17:00 pm
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Who's going? I know it's early, but redsock did a Muse thread so deal with it. I'll be wearing a t-shirt with a big anvil on it. :)
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I'll be there.
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I'm attending.
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I'm surprised at how well in advance people pick their concert attire...
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Me, but no clue what I'm wearing. And i'll be in the back, near the left side bar pro'ly....
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Anyone see the City Paper's review of Antics? Ouch!!
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*yawn* She's probably mad because she had to go out and buy the album...that came out over a month ago vs. a freebie. :roll:
November 5, 2004
Look at Me, I??m Ian C.
By Shannon Zimmerman
Antics
Interpol
Matador
Aghast Agape
Prosaics
Dim Mak
The crusty music scribes who reviewed Interpol??s 2002 debut mainly had one point to make: Gee, ain??t it cool that the kids of today finally have a Joy Division and/or Echo and the Bunnymen and/or Chameleons of their own? That, of course, didn??t stop the New York quartet??s Turn on the Bright Lights from racking up miles of hyperbolic column inches. Good for them??every pasty-faced college kid with a guitar and a Factory fixation deserves a hot ??n?? bothered write-up in the pages of Rolling Stone, dontcha think? But reading back over those notices now is pretty revealing.
That congratulatory tone would seem downright offensive if Interpol hadn??t worked??and worked, and worked??so hard to earn it. Consider the band??s name, which resonates with frozen-checkpoint glamour in the same way that Warsaw, an early Joy Division moniker, did way back in the late ??70s. Consider, too, the group??s much-ballyhooed fashion sense, which would best be characterized as skinny-tie-chic if it weren??t for bassist Carlos D??s unfortunate flirtation with Third Reich??style regalia??a high-fashion don??t that wasn??t even cool back when Sid Vicious trotted it out.
Still, the biggest point in Interpol??s disfavor is its music. Don??t get me wrong: Like everyone else who counts albums by Joy Division and Echo among his all-time faves, I thought Bright Lights was a hoot, a goofy road trip down Memory Lane with one great song (??PDA?) and a bunch of also-rans that at least sounded halfway decent rumbling away as background noise at, say, your best friend??s 40th birthday party.
Of course, the same could be said about the Grease soundtrack, and I??d argue that that particular analogy gets the relationship between Interpol??s forebears and the band itself just about exactly right. Indeed, if and when Greasemeister Robert Stigwood ever decides to come out of retirement to produce a postpunk film (and no, Times Square doesn??t count), he??ll almost certainly cast the men of Interpol in his movie, and perhaps even use ??em as his soundtrack band. After all, these guys are the Sha Na Na of today.
Harsh? Maybe. But given the way the usual suspects have fawned all over Antics, Interpol??s sophomore effort, someone??s gotta do the dirty work. With the possible exception of two tracks, Antics is, in a word, godawful??so bad, in fact, that the current critical mantra about how the disc showcases Interpol??s melodic side can only be described as Orwellian.
Take, for instance, ??Next Exit,? the album??s organ-fueled opener. Lyrically, the track aims to be this well-traveled band??s fight song: ??We ain??t going to the town, we??re going to the city,? sings frontman Paul Banks in his relentlessly monochromatic warble. ??Gonna trek this shit around/And make this place a heart/To be a part of.? A worthy sentiment, that, but the tune??s plodding cadence and three-note ??melody? conjure up only boring old touring-band fatigue and hipster ennui. All that??s missing here is a Jackson Browne??style tip of the hat to the roadies.
Despite D??s supple, fret-board-running bass line, ??Evil? is similarly stuck in a midtempo rut??one that Banks only digs deeper with more words about the trials and tribulations of, well, being Paul Banks. ??It took a lifespan, with no cellmate,? he intones wearily with nary a wink nor a nod over his band??s shoplifted Sturm und Drone. ??Narc,? by, er, contrast, finds guitarist Daniel Kessler practicing his scales over a slightly discofied shuffle and a by-the-numbers shoegazing chorus, and ??Take You on a Cruise? opts for the kind of echo-laden soundscape that U2 abandoned decades ago. Banks adds insult to inanity by weighing in with lyrics that one suspects are meant as koans but turn out to be mere non sequiturs. ??Time is like a broken watch,? he offers portentously. ??And make money like Fred Astaire.?
Got that? No? Well, perhaps the song??s next line will make more sense: ??I see that you??ve come to resist me,? Banks intones??to which the only proper response is: Can you blame us?
In addition to Banks??, um, antics, each of these tracks suffers as well from the band??s ill-advised commitment to lock-step rhythms. As on its debut, Interpol here fares best when it ups the BPM. Though ??Slow Hands,? Antics?? first single, ain??t great by any stretch of the imagination, it does get by on the strength of Kessler??s hyperactive riff-mongering and drummer Samuel Fogarino??s relatively crazy rhythms. Indeed, the track??one of the album??s two real keepers??is a rock-disco anthem that could give the criminally neglected Electric 6 a run for its money.
The other trump card here is ??Length of Love,? a throbfest that, from its title on down, is nasty through and through. Even Banks rises to the challenge, so to speak, managing to thread one of his inscrutable ??poetic? phrases????complex salacious removal???through the song??s hedonistic murk with, for once, considerable style and grace.
But that kind of acumen is all too rare on Antics, a disc that??d be one dud of a career killer if it weren??t for those pesky fanboys who keep writing it up so damn favorably. To be sure, Interpol has a knack for giving certain people??you know very well who you are??exactly what they want. But revivalism based on cartoonishly received notions of the past doesn??t generally bode well for any band??s future. As the saying goes, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can??t fool all of the people all the time??and that goes double for Sha Na Na.
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Originally posted by Fico:
I'm surprised at how well in advance people pick their concert attire...
it's the shirt I always wear :)
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Originally posted by Fico:
I'm surprised at how well in advance people pick their concert attire...
I'm deciding between the black goddess and the black temptress. Har dee har har.
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That review is clearly written by someone who doesn't have a clue or really enjoy music. And from someone who has no idea what kind of work it takes to create, write, perform and record music. But whatever, she is entitled to her own opinion, even if it's crap (and yes, I'm intending to sound like Jack Black in High Fidelity).
I for one am not missing Interpol for anything. This is the album of the year, IMO. It's an incredible record!
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
That review is clearly written by someone who doesn't have a clue or really enjoy music. And from someone who has no idea what kind of work it takes to create, write, perform and record music.
you mean <gasp> the city paper employs people like that??? and i thought they simply employed people who can't write well.
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That too!
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
That review is clearly written by someone who doesn't have a clue or really enjoy music. And from someone who has no idea what kind of work it takes to create, write, perform and record music.
plus, she can't resist comparing them to Joy Division. How original.
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i'm pretty sure that this shannon is a guy. not positive, but pretty sure. like the dead guy from blind melon.
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Great review!
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I'm there.
That review is overly harsh and quite pretenious...like Interpol is the only new band whose sound is derived/inspired from an eariler band's work. Plus, I had to hold back laughter and a little vomit with this quote:
"the criminally neglected Electric 6"
That being said, however, I still feel that "Turn on the Bright Lights" is a far superior album. Only a few tracks on "Antics" (particulary Slow Hands and Length of Love) hold up to their debut tunes.
It still should be a dynamite show, especially with the Secret Machines opening.
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i am going to go. yes i am.
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I'll be there. Bunnyman, can I buy you a drink? I'm a barbi lookin' chick - often at the top bar - and I'd like to meet you. Hope you'll come up to say "hi". PS: Celeste and Bags...can I buy you a coke/beer/wine/ice water or a Gucci purse?
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I'll be there. Bunnyman, can I buy you a drink? I'm a barbi lookin' chick - often at the top bar - and I'd like to meet you. Hope you'll come up to say "hi". PS: Celeste and Bags...can I buy you a coke/beer/wine/ice water or a Gucci purse?
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if i can get a ticket, i'll be there.
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I think I have an extra for you. PM me.
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I will be there front and center.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
i'm pretty sure that this shannon is a guy. not positive, but pretty sure. like the dead guy from blind melon.
Actually it's a girl...she used to be in a band called the Zimmermans....
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Hey, these guys choose their friends just the way the rest of us do....by what they wear! They are so cool and interesting!
The post-punk punk band's influence can be heard in Interpol's taut rhythms and the intensity of their live shows, but no one will ever trace Interpol's fashion sensibility -- notably those trademark black Italian suits -- to Washington. That's pretty much the province of Kessler and bassist Carlos Dengler, originally a philosophy major at NYU and host of the campus radio's goth show, "Theatrum Aethereum."
"I didn't always dress this way, but in some capacity I knew that one day I would," says Kessler, a fan of '50s and '60s films, particularly the French New Wave, and the way "gentlemen" in those films dressed. "I've always had an affinity for people with style. When I met Carlos, I was dressed very similarly to the way I am today, and that's one of the things that drew us together. We were in a dorm full of undergraduates who wore NYU sweaters and jeans -- maybe that was one thing that made me feel we might have something in common."
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anybody have an extra ticket? And yes, Suki, by all means you can buy me a drink! I'll even buy you one too!
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
I will be there front and center.
ditto.
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I'll certainly take a purse...anytime!
Kurosawa, I'd love to be up front for Secret Machines, but I can't get there super early. Any hints? [I don't rememver when doors are supposed to be....]
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Count me in.
Doors are at 7:30, and On! Air! Library! is opening...
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Originally posted by Frosty The Swami:
Count me in.
Doors are at 7:30, and On! Air! Library! is opening...
Instead of the Zutons? (I think I recall seeing they had some problem and had cancelled some shows...)
If so, what's the story with On!Air!Library!
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They! are! easily! excitable!
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Frosty The Swami:
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If so, what's the story with On!Air!Library! [/b]
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Originally posted by Bags:
Instead of the Zutons? (I think I recall seeing they had some problem and had cancelled some shows...)
If so, what's the story with On!Air!Library!
The Zutons are opening for Muse, not Interpol.
MP3s on On!Air!Library! site (http://www.onairlibrary.com/music.asp)
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I know, I keep getting all this confused.
Sorry.
(1) Is On! Air!... opening before the Secret Machines? Why aren't they listed?
(2) How are On! Air!? [About to listen to MP3s, thanks for the link]
(3) How are the Zutons?
THANKS...
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] They! are! easily! excitable!
There's a tour: !!!, Volcano I'm Still Excited!!! and On! Air! Library! :p
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i'll be there...as close to carlos d. as humanly possible.
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I'll be there too, somewhere up front.
Bags, On!Air!Library! sound kind of Shoegazey. Nice, softer start to help build up the show.
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front and left of centet!
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I'm going.
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Originally posted by Bags:
I know, I keep getting all this confused.
Sorry.
(1) Is On! Air!... opening before the Secret Machines? Why aren't they listed?
THANKS...
They're listed on Pollstar and on the Interpol website.
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...and here (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001628).
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i'm going, might be a bit late, but as i said before, i'll be the one yelling for "stella"..
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I'll be there. I want to look for the guitar pedal I sold to their manager last year on eBay!
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I may have 2 extra tickets for Interpol tomorrow...DJ Medusa is getting first pick if she still needs a ticket but the others may be up for the grab.. face value of course, e-m at ficofico@gmail.com
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i'll be there as well. dancing around when they do ca'mer.
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Medusa... I PM'd you a coupla of days ago about the ticket but haven't heard from you...let me know if you still want it or I'll offer it to someone else..see you all at the show...bring $5 extra for the Cartel cd =)
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Just sent you a PM!
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
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I'm in.
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I'm not a big fan of the "sold out" show scene,but I couldn't turn down free ticks for this one! Looking forward to Secret Machines also.....
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i'm there.
i hope they're still playing "untitled"..
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I decided not to go tonight, so I have 2 tickets for sale (also listed in ticket x-change).
UPDATE>>>TICKETS ARE SOLD
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Looking forward to your show reviews. I had to give up my tix for this one. Don't feel too bad for me though - I'll get to see them in NYC on Thursday night. :D
<img src="http://theinterpol.free.fr/audiovisuals/visual/josh_rothstein/live.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Someone please take a nice, long look at gorgeous Carlos D. and then telepathically send the image my way ... :p
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
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I got in line around 6pm, around 6:30pm a car pulls in front of the club and out pops Paul and Carlos. A kid in front of me, dressed in a suit, made a "squee!" sound and headed towards Paul. That poor man.
Great show tonight...managed to secure the same spot on the balcony as last night.
But, before I go any further...PUBLIC PERVERT!!!. :)
On the opening acts:
On!Air!Library!...Meh. They were running late and it seemed to affect their performance overall.
Secret Machines...they had the street teamers out in force. They were handing out stickers and buttons while we were waiting in line. On the balcony, I was standing next to some label folks who were affiliated with the band.
I liked their set, but I probably wouldn't go see them if/when they headline. Some good songs, but nothing great.
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
I liked their set, but I probably wouldn't go see them if/when they headline. Some good songs, but nothing great.
the rockstar ending of the first song kind of blew the rest of the set. they did the same thing in toronto as well. just kind of made me think 'whatever'.
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i thought it was a good set from interpol, but not great. very solid show though. i'm very disappointed that their set was only an hour. i was expecting at least an hour and a half with 2 full albums released now. no stella! no ca'mer!
what was up the with crowd? they were dead! and what was that fight about that broke out near the left bar, by the food station? i turned around and saw the bartender and cook flying over the bar and a bouncer go running back to squelch things.
although i know interpol has moved past the club sized venue due to their popularity, i really hope that they still stick to majority small size venues and just do multiple night stands. it just gives their show that extra something special. i really wouldn't want to seem them at constitution hall or bender arena.
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Originally posted by lily1:
what was up the with crowd? they were dead!
whilst watching SM from the balcony, i looked to the floor and the crowd was like a painting!!!!
like someone drew them in.
really people, is it lame to show excitement for live music?
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
really people, is it lame to show excitement for live music? [/QB]
I've been saying this for years, but then someone comes around and says its the bands fault, or we payed the money so we can just stand there if we want or someone complains that you show to much excitement and that they got bumped a little bit and get mad. I don't think we can win this one.
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i agree, nobody was really moving last night. i was a few people back from the stage in between paul and carlos, and i was bouncing around during "slow hands" and felt like i was the only one. it was bizarre. but the band i thought were great. and i agree, "nyc" was definitely a highlight of the evening.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
we payed the money so we can just stand there if we want
thats classic. these people need to get over themeselves.
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I agree that the crowd was ridiculously still and quiet (not that I was any different). Then again, I wasn't all that impressed with Interpol. I thought they lacked energy and weren't terribly interesting to watch. They weren't doing anything to get the crowd very excited and the crowd wasn't doing anything to rev-up the band. I liked their Curiosa show a lot better than this one.
The last 4-5 songs were terrific though. Not a bad show - just not a very exciting one.
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ok my take
the Secret Machines rule and i will try to go see them whenever i possibly can. i even bought a shirt! i just love how they can take it up or down so smoothly....and the beats are great and i like the keyboardists voice too. i like thier setup and that alone gives them an interesting stage presence...and those lamps...its almost like you're watching a play or something. very very cool too when they turn them out for a while and get slow and then bang em all on again....i was eating it up!!! haha.
Interpol was very good....they are such a tight unit. the crowd sucked sorta, but me and the girlfriend were a little drunk so we didnt mind that we were sorta bumping into people (just a touch, they didnt seem to mind either)
i love Slow Hands...they need more songs like it.....good show, but SM are just better.......
and whenever you see Skeeter/Bombay its a good night :)
and that sugartastic blondie girl too .... btw, that cd is just bad....where did you get it????
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I really enjoyed the Secret Machines set too - the Bob Dylan cover sort of sealed the deal for me.
And I'm not sure if anybody's ever picked up on it, but it seems like Interpol sometimes reminds me a bit of Joy Division. Has anyone else noticed this? Ever?
Anyway...What is the history of standing completely still at shows? I watched the movie Blow Up recently, and there's a scene where the Yardbirds are playing and the crowd is completely motionless (for most of the scene, anyway), so I'm thinking it's not exactly a recent development.
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crowds at indie shows suck. Why?... nobody does drugs or gets really drunk. I did both last night and had a great time. I don't get why people pay so much for these shows just to tap their pocket and stare at their shoes.
It's too bad you can't smoke in DC venues. This town is very uptight about pot in general. A show on the west coast has a completely different vibe.
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did anyone else see the secret machines open up for the fire theft earlier this year at black cat?
i seem to remember them just having 2 guys in the band then (the one stage left who sits and the drummer). but it doesn't seem possible to make their sound without the lead guitarist.
anyway, towards the end of their set they turned off the klieg lights and toned it down for an amazing shoegazey cover of dylan's "girl from the north country". it's one of my favorite dylan songs and they did a fucking awesome version, i nearly creamed myself. i really wanted the drums to kick in though and for them to really rock out on the last verse/chorus, but it was still great.
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Originally posted by tpw:
This town is very uptight about pot in general. A show on the west coast has a completely different vibe.
where do you live/hangout? rich white areas?
i pass guys on the street smoking blunts outside at 8am every day on my way to work. you can buy a dime bag on every corner around my house (in adams morgan), roll it up and smoke it on the street without anyone caring.
agreed though on the smoking at shows. it amazes me that the state theatre brings these uber-crusty bands like umphrey's mcgee in or big reggae bands and they're so hard on weed. strange.
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The crowd did seem really bored. Were those the 18-24 set who registered to vote, but "forgot" to? They seem a little complacent about music too...
There were several potential fights. During Interpol's set, Brandon from Secret Machine got hassled by some "guests" in the VIP section who were threatening to beat him up - and he had no idea why.
FOR THE VERY DRUNK COLLEGE GIRLS WHO ARRIVED AT 9:15 AND TRIED TO JAM UP TO THE FRONT OF THE STAGE, THEN SCREAMED THRU THE WHOLE FRIGGIN' SET, TRYING TO BE HEARD OVER THE SECRET MACHINES: WHAT ARE YOU DOING AT A CONCERT, YOU RUDE, IGNORANT, ARROGANT LITTLE TWITS? IF YOU'RE NOT THERE FOR THE MUSIC, GO BACK TO THE BARS IN ADAMS MORGAN. BTW: I COULD HEARRRRR YOU... AND IF I EVER SEE YOU AGAIN, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET TO WEAR HOME EVEN MORE DRINKS THAN YOU SPILLED ON US LAST NIGHT).
I thought Interpol would draw a sophisticated, edgier crowd - of people more into the music than the "party" ...altho there's nothing wrong with BOTH if you show a little respect for others! My mistake.
Sigh...back to important things: I really liked Secret Machine, especially their rather unusual Bob Dylan cover!
I suppose we could vote with our wallets - but miss a lot of great music...and hanging out with the interesting and funny people who work at the 930. I think they're the guys I really feel sorry for...they have to deal with the bullshit almost every night.
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I'm pretty sure the Secret Machines have always been a three-piece.
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Anyone else wanna comment on On!Air!Library! I have heard good thigns but am curious about their live sound...
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
an amazing shoegazey cover of dylan's "girl from the north country".
i knew i had heard those lyrics somewhere else. their entire set was excellent.
i thought it might be different live, but i still can't get into interpol's 2nd album. "NYC" was brilliant though.
i think i was spoiled by los amigos invisibles on sat. night (possibly the best, funnest show i've witnessed at the black cat).
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
I'm pretty sure the Secret Machines have always been a three-piece.
<img src="http://www.toymania.com/columns/spotlight/images/palmuppets2animal8.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Yet again, another reason why I got there early, got up front, and was SO grateful not to have to deal with the audience. Of course, I am also lucky to have the time to do that. I managed to meet Sam and he was incredibly cool. Too bad he doesn't smile more, it makes him look like less of a thug when he does.
The girl up front from NYC was annoying as all hell. She wouldn't shut up, and it amazed me how much loot she got...drum sticks, setlists, guitar picks, posters, etc. Maybe they were just hoping she would shut up and go away. Anyway, Secret Machines were decent, I enjoyed their set for the most part. I thought Interpol was amazing, though I enjoyed them a bit more at Curiosa for some reason. They seemed to have a little more spark. Last night was awesome, but I agree with Lily that it was too short. I am glad I missed the fight at the bar, sounds like it would have been interesting though. Meeting Bobby Schayer from Bad Religion was cool as hell, too, he was a great guy. It was so neat to talk to him, he told me he had dinner with Dee Dee Ramone a week before he died. When I told Bobby that Bob Mould was upstairs he practically took off running. All in all, a VERY fun evening.
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I had tickets for the show but decided that it wouldn't be worth the hassle to go to the show.
Last time Interpol played 9:30 they were excellent, but they had already started turning into an "it" band that would attract too many people who were there to make the scene and talk incessantly to their friends, either in person or on their cell phones.
I would have liked to see Secret Machines though.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
I agree that the crowd was ridiculously still and quiet (not that I was any different). Then again, I wasn't all that impressed with Interpol. I thought they lacked energy and weren't terribly interesting to watch. They weren't doing anything to get the crowd very excited and the crowd wasn't doing anything to rev-up the band. I liked their Curiosa show a lot better than this one.
The last 4-5 songs were terrific though. Not a bad show - just not a very exciting one.
I'd pretty much agree with your summary. I noticed more head nodding and foot tapping during SM's set. There was some deafening silence in the crowd last night. Reclusive intellectuals is what I summised. SM is pretty cool. I definitely dug the song w/ the keyboardist singing lead vocals.
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I guess it really depends on where you're standing when it comes to movement. I was on the balcony and the group around me were enjoying the show a lot.
Didn't see the fight, but yikes.
I had to watch "Blow-Up" (too many times) for a freshman college screening literature class.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by tpw:
This town is very uptight about pot in general. A show on the west coast has a completely different vibe.
where do you live/hangout? rich white areas?
i pass guys on the street smoking blunts outside at 8am every day on my way to work. you can buy a dime bag on every corner around my house (in adams morgan), roll it up and smoke it on the street without anyone caring.
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People sell pot in Hoya's hood! He's got street cred! Since pot is sold at Flawd's high school, does that mean he's got street cred too?
Having attended G'Town University, I'm assuming Hoya grew up in one of those rich white neighborhoods he's mocking.
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Originally posted by chaz:
Having attended G'Town University, I'm assuming Hoya grew up in one of those rich white neighborhoods he's mocking.
and last night probably wasnt the first time he's had to ask bar security to help him out with "douchebags"
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Didn't see the fight, but yikes.
After the fight, some guy fell into the back wall and almost tipped over until I pushed him back up.
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
Yet again, another reason why I got there early, got up front, and was SO grateful not to have to deal with the audience. Of course, I am also lucky to have the time to do that. I managed to meet Sam and he was incredibly cool. Too bad he doesn't smile more, it makes him look like less of a thug when he does.
I so need to hang out with you. You get it...go to shows and have fun. :)
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unless he was on the basketball team...but then again he did say he graduated from Georgetown
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by tpw:
This town is very uptight about pot in general. A show on the west coast has a completely different vibe.
where do you live/hangout? rich white areas?
i pass guys on the street smoking blunts outside at 8am every day on my way to work. you can buy a dime bag on every corner around my house (in adams morgan), roll it up and smoke it on the street without anyone caring.
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People sell pot in Hoya's hood! He's got street cred! Since pot is sold at Flawd's high school, does that mean he's got street cred too?
Having attended G'Town University, I'm assuming Hoya grew up in one of those rich white neighborhoods he's mocking. [/b]
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Last time Interpol played 9:30 they were excellent, but they had already started turning into an "it" band that would attract too many people who were there to make the scene and talk incessantly to their friends, either in person or on their cell phones.
If you are a true music fan you have to look past that. Don't look down on a band because they sell out shows. I hate it when indie fans in-the-know come of as greedy because "their band" gets played on MTV. Interpol should be applauded for breaking out in a horribly bland music industry. The fair-weather fans will soon fade away and move onto something else.
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Originally posted by bunnyman:
Yet again, another reason why I got there early, got up front, and was SO grateful not to have to deal with the audience. Of course, I am also lucky to have the time to do that. I managed to meet Sam and he was incredibly cool. Too bad he doesn't smile more, it makes him look like less of a thug when he does.
I so need to hang out with you. You get it...go to shows and have fun. :) [/b]
yes! fun people need to take over 930
btw, i checked my coat last night, and my ticket was number "930" cool, eh?
so at the end of the night, i asked him what i won....and he said "a leather jacket"
thanks.
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
a true music fan
what a ridiculous phrase
and you would have to hear past it, not see past it
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
unless he was on the basketball team...but then again he did say he graduated from Georgetown
Rhett = funny
plus , he said he was 5'10"
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
unless he was on the basketball team...but then again he did say he graduated from Georgetown
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by tpw:
This town is very uptight about pot in general. A show on the west coast has a completely different vibe.
where do you live/hangout? rich white areas?
i pass guys on the street smoking blunts outside at 8am every day on my way to work. you can buy a dime bag on every corner around my house (in adams morgan), roll it up and smoke it on the street without anyone caring.
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People sell pot in Hoya's hood! He's got street cred! Since pot is sold at Flawd's high school, does that mean he's got street cred too?
Having attended G'Town University, I'm assuming Hoya grew up in one of those rich white neighborhoods he's mocking. [/b]
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Georgetown is actually always in the top 5% or so of DI schools at graduating its athletes ... if you remember back to 1996, when Iverson left early, it was a scandal ...
basketball players at g'town are true "scholar-athletes", not some bullshit like THE ohio state university.
and i grew up in a - gasp - integrated neighborhood in florida.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by chaz:
Having attended G'Town University, I'm assuming Hoya grew up in one of those rich white neighborhoods he's mocking.
and last night probably wasnt the first time he's had to ask bar security to help him out with "douchebags" [/b]
honestly, what would you have done differently? start a fight, get your ass kicked by two guys bigger than you, get kicked out of DC9 (and i assume asked not to come back)?
you're hardcore!!!
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Iverson?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
unless he was on the basketball team...but then again he did say he graduated from Georgetown
Rhett = funny
plus , he said he was 5'10" [/b]
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That is because there are only 12 guys on the mens basketball team, all majoring in phys ed, and the football team plays touch football.
Onl Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
[/qb][/QUOTE]Georgetown is actually always in the top 5% or so of DI schools at graduating its athletes ......
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by chaz:
Having attended G'Town University, I'm assuming Hoya grew up in one of those rich white neighborhoods he's mocking.
and last night probably wasnt the first time he's had to ask bar security to help him out with "douchebags" [/b]
honestly, what would you have done differently? [/b]
Ignore them [in the first place] and enjoy the show?
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
so at the end of the night, i asked him what i won....and he said "a leather jacket"
thanks.
Congrats, I bet it looked just like yours didn't it?
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
If you are a true music fan you have to look past that. Don't look down on a band because they sell out shows. I hate it when indie fans in-the-know come of as greedy because "their band" gets played on MTV. Interpol should be applauded for breaking out in a horribly bland music industry. The fair-weather fans will soon fade away and move onto something else.
I don't look down on them, I just didn't feel like standing in a hot and crowded room straining to hear them over some inconsiderate boor who is gabbing on his cell phone about how wasted he/she got last night.
(Christ, that sounds very Rhett-like, doesn't it?)
I saw Interpol the last four times they've been through DC, so there was no urgency to see them. Last night, I just wasn't in the mood for the hassle.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
That is because there are only 12 guys on the mens basketball team, all majoring in phys ed, and the football team plays touch football.
Onl Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
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Georgetown is actually always in the top 5% or so of DI schools at graduating its athletes ......
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ignorance must be bliss, eh?
tell that to reuben boumtje-boumtje, who was the team's starting center, a double math/biology major, and president of georgetown's math club. oh, and a second round NBA draft pick.
or dikembe mutumbo, who was pre-med.
or dozens of other amazingly physically gifted players who are also intellectually brilliant and driven.
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Rhett's just jealous because he went to some fourth-rate state school.
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and you would have to hear past it, not see past it
i wasn't talking about their music, genius. the music is still solid. i was talking about figuratively looking past the idea of a once-cultish indie band gaining a sizeable fanbase that may include a large number of unintelligent boors.
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and, i meant "bores" not "boors"...before someone nitpicks.
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
i wasn't talking about their music, genius. the music is still solid. i was talking about figuratively looking past the idea of a once-cultish indie band gaining a sizeable fanbase that may include a large number of unintelligent boors.
i wasn't talking about their music either ,eugenius, you would have to hear past people talking
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
and, i meant "bores" not "boors"...before someone nitpicks.
Really? Because I did mean "boors".
boor
Pronunciation Key (br)
noun
1. A person with rude, clumsy manners and little refinement.
2. A peasant.
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[Dutch boer, from Middle Dutch gheboer. See bheu- in Indo-European Roots.]
Synonyms: barbarian, churl, lout, vulgarian, yahoo
These nouns denote an uncouth and uncultivated person: listened to the boor talk about himself all night
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Boers?
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Sugar "T" - I think the guy you pushed upright was Brandon - the keyboardist from SM. He's not a big dude: what d-bag would pick on him? BTW: what was your fav. CD everyone was raving about?
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Rhett's just jealous because he went to some fourth-rate state school.
<img src="http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_march_20_2004/idiots/117-1747_IMG.JPG" alt=" - " />
But you both voted for BUSH. Funny, eh?
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Wrong. Though I like bush, I voted for Kerry.
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<img src="http://www.zombietime.com/how_berkeley_can_you_be/miss_berkeley/135-3530_2IMG.JPG" alt=" - " />
Liking Bush is in your nature.
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Originally posted by Suki:
Sugar "T" - I think the guy you pushed upright was Brandon - the keyboardist from SM. He's not a big dude: what d-bag would pick on him? BTW: what was your fav. CD everyone was raving about?
The guy almost fell over downstairs..he was pretty tall & sans the spoofy hair, so me thinks it's not him. The cd I passed to Sonick? Something I picked up in Denver. I don't like it (sounds like Good Charlotte) but I brought some back for people. They were hot off the presses at Twist and Shout. And free.
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hi,
new here. went to the interpol show last night. i've been a fan of theirs and the bands they sound like for a long time. was anyone else dismayed at their apparent lack of, i don't know, "giving a shit" maybe? they seemed sloppy, and took forever between songs. i don't expect perfection, but after the amount of time that those guys have been on the road, i ask for just a little professionalism, and i would guess that they're either wearing out, or they just don't care. and to top it off, where the hell did carlos go in the middle of the set? was he taking a piss? has this already been discussed? i saw them at the cure show this summer, and they were on. but to pay $25 to see them just fuck around on their own was kind of a bummer.
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Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
The cd I passed to Sonick? Something I picked up in Denver. I don't like it
thanks. got any other crappy cds?
;)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
The cd I passed to Sonick? Something I picked up in Denver. I don't like it
thanks. got any other crappy cds?
:D
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i had seen the secret machines before at the black cat so i left for the show later than usual. i caught the last half of SM's set and i was pretty impressed...the bob dylan song was a really interesting cover choice but it worked well. i've always loved that song.
i thought the show last night was decent. definitely too short tho. to charge $25 and play an hour set seemed ridiculous. i agree that they performed better at curiosa too; they were a bit sloppy last night, false starts and all. obstacle 1 and evil were fab tho. i enjoyed seeing them a small(ish) club but wish it hadn't been so friggen packed. i was surrounded by these gargantuan people on the floor...interpol definitely attracts a taller crowd (is it genetic?). i finally moved to the balcony so that i could see the band but was sandwiched between some uninterested gabbers on the side wall and two won-some-tix-on-hfs couples who had not a clue who the band was but insisted on blocking out everyone behind them. no one on my side of the balcony (left side near the ladies room) seemed to be that into the show. as for complaints about the lack of band energy on stage...listen to an interpol album and anyone should know not to expect a raucous show with crazy rock-and-roll posturing and antics (no pun intended), except for the oh-so-gorgeous carlos posing with his bass in his military get-up. the crowd definitely could have been more animated tho. i've been saying that about dc crowds for a long time...these people should just drop the pretention and loosen up.
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as we were getting into our car, these VERY loud and VERY drunk people were walking to thier car (which was behind ours on the st.) and yelling about how..."someone shusshed me at a concert!!"
no shit lady.
then when i asked her if she was driving her friends home in that state she said "shut up or I'll ram your car" ok , ram my $2500 car.
really made me laugh. somehow i meet all the crazies when i go out!
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
as we were getting into our car, these VERY loud and VERY drunk people were walking to thier car (which was behind ours on the st.) and yelling about how..."someone shusshed me at a concert!!"
no shit lady.
then when i asked her if she was driving her friends home in that state she said "shut up or I'll ram your car" ok , ram my $2500 car.
really made me laugh. somehow i meet all the crazies when i go out!
Should you be criticizing others about driving drunk?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
me and the girlfriend were a little drunk
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Should you be criticizing others about driving drunk?
perhaps i didnt make the situation clear. i wasnt really criticizing her really. we were kind of joking around.
but she was MUCH more drunk than i was. I had a decent buzz, this girl was "wasted". or maybe just overly excited. either way, it was just ironic that she was yelling about being shusshed. :)
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On! Air! Library! did nothing for me. I kept looking at my watch waiting for the SM set.
SM were very good, as is their latest album, but I don't think I'd see them to headline a show unless it was $10 (like at the Black Cat a few months ago).
This was my first time seeing Interpol, and they were good enough, though not great. The crowd was terrible though. A lot of assholes, not unlike the GBV show. Kind of expensive for a short set, but I would do it over again for Interpol.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
then when i asked her if she was driving her friends home in that state she said "shut up or I'll ram your car" ok , ram my $2500 car.
really made me laugh. somehow i meet all the crazies when i go out! [/QB]
I woulda paid money to see your GF whoop her ass after saying that. Of course she mighta been to drunk at the time, if I remember your prior comments correctly.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I woulda paid money to see your GF whoop her ass after saying that. Of course she mighta been to drunk at the time, if I remember your prior comments correctly.
she was. and yes, she would start swinging before i would. shes from Baltimore, what do you expect!!!!
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Big (fake)blonde hair and buck teeth (several missing).
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
shes from Baltimore, what do you expect!!!!
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
she was. and yes, she would start swinging before i would. shes from Baltimore, what do you expect!!!! [/QB]
Mine would also, must be the Old Baltimore Club scene or something.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
she was. and yes, she would start swinging before i would. shes from Baltimore, what do you expect!!!! [/b]
Mine would also, must be the Old Baltimore Club scene or something. [/QB]
yes. i know. I was going to say the same about your girl except, i still think you would swing first, though she would not be far behind. :)
and neither have big hair, Rhett.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
yes. i know. I was going to say the same about your girl except, i still think you would swing first, though she would not be far behind. :)
and neither have big hair, Rhett. [/b]
Oh if it was a female, I wouldnt have a chance, she would start whaling on her. You shoulda seen her at the Ministry concert, she was getting so ticked off at this one girl who kept bumping against me outside of the pit, she pushed her twice, throwing her half way thru the pit, I was laughing my butt off. Luckily I was able to get it surgically back on, for that I am thankful. :)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
she was. and yes, she would start swinging before i would. shes from Baltimore, what do you expect!!!!
Your girlfriend gets in fistfights?
And you call other people "rednecks"?!?!
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Rob_Gee & Sonick have girlfriends who SWING..nudge, nudge.
SCHWING!
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Your girlfriend gets in fistfights?
And you call other people "rednecks"?!?!
fighting = redneck ?
(i've never seen her punch anyone, but i just figure, she'd do it before i would....i have hit someone with "the club" before though)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
fighting = redneck ?
Yes. Chicks who get into fistfights are rednecks.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
fighting = redneck ?
Yes. Chicks who get into fistfights are rednecks. [/b]
chicks who normally get into fistfights, or any chick that could get into one?
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zoolander took a little while to grow on me.
i enjoyed it and laughed when first seeing the movie in a theater, but it wasn't until repeat viewings that the humor really took off.
every scene and bit in zoolander is meticulously constructed in the tradition of ironic greatness. once you understand the approach ben stiller is taking as a comic filmmaker, you can really sit back and enjoy his and the entire cast's genius.
owen wilson is, as always, unbelievably funny. his sense of timing and amazing wit really dominate the film. while will ferrell again proves himself as one of the great comedians of our generation, jerry stiller shows that he has at least few years left in him (as long as he can still cah-p**s)
go see this movie. if you don't like it, see it again.
trust me, it will grow on you too.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
...i have hit someone with "the club" before though)
Are you still talking about your penis?
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
...i have hit someone with "the club" before though)
Are you still talking about your penis? [/b]
wouldn't you like to know....
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
fighting = redneck ?
Yes. Chicks who get into fistfights are rednecks. [/b]
chicks who normally get into fistfights, or any chick that could get into one? [/b]
If you saw two drunk chicks fighting in a parking lot after a concert, what would you think?
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ggw only dates class broads (http://binnes.funhumour.com/videos/811.mpg).
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I'd think they were probably fighting over Guiny.
Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
fighting = redneck ?
Yes. Chicks who get into fistfights are rednecks. [/b]
chicks who normally get into fistfights, or any chick that could get into one? [/b]
If you saw two drunk chicks fighting in a parking lot after a concert, what would you think? [/b]
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Originally posted by ggw?:
If you saw two drunk chicks fighting in a parking lot after a concert, what would you think?
i agree for the most part. i think it would depend on the situation. and a passerby may think "what the fuck" as with 2 guys fighting.
but i dont know that redneck would automatically cross my mind, no.
of course, some of you doodles call most Canadians rednecks, so what do i know.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
If you saw two drunk chicks fighting in a parking lot after a concert, what would you think? [/QB]
Cat Fight....Woooo Hooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'd think they were probably fighting over Guiny.
lol. good one, mr. rhett :D
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
of course, some of you doodles call most Canadians rednecks, so what do i know.
Canadians are just rednecks without the southern accent.
Seriously, mullets are still pretty standard in Canada, non?
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Seriously, mullets are still pretty standard in Canada, non?
no more standard than they are in Nebraska.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
no more standard than they are in Nebraska. [/QB]
Or the 9:30 Club.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
of course, some of you doodles call most Canadians rednecks, so what do i know.
Canadians are just rednecks without the southern accent.
Seriously, mullets are still pretty standard in Canada, non? [/b]
don't forget about the canadian tuxedo!
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by ggw?:
[qb]don't forget about the canadian tuxedo! [/b]
A necktie with a Leafs jersey?
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I dunno. I kinda like to enjoy the music and bop my head some. Does the fact that I'm not a whirling dervish make me a bad person? Besides, the floor was so overcrowded you could barely stand without banging into someone. Oh, and I'm 6'5" too. I guess I need to apologize for that as well. :(
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Amen.
I like to hang out and enjoy the music -- tap my foot, maybe do the Nod. It's not pretension. Is frenetic movement and dancing the natural state of man?
Originally posted by kmdobrz:
I dunno. I kinda like to enjoy the music and bop my head some. Does the fact that I'm not a whirling dervish make me a bad person? Besides, the floor was so overcrowded you could barely stand without banging into someone. Oh, and I'm 6'5" too. I guess I need to apologize for that as well. :(
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by ggw?:
[qb]don't forget about the canadian tuxedo! [/b]
A necktie with a Leafs jersey? [/b]
<img src="http://www.denimexpress.com/lib/denimexpress/70507-0389-m.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Amen.
I like to hang out and enjoy the music -- tap my foot, maybe do the Nod. It's not pretension. Is frenetic movement and dancing the natural state of man?
last night, looked like a painting. it went a little too far.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by ggw?:
Amen.
I like to hang out and enjoy the music -- tap my foot, maybe do the Nod. It's not pretension. Is frenetic movement and dancing the natural state of man?
last night, looked like a painting. it went a little too far. [/b]
i was going nuts dancing, especially towards the end of the show ... but you're right, not many others were, most were too busy on their cell phones or doing the arms crossed indie salute
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Originally posted by kmdobrz:
Oh, and I'm 6'5" too. I guess I need to apologize for that as well. :(
Ah, no sweat. ;) (There were a lot of tall people at this show!)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by ggw?:
Amen.
I like to hang out and enjoy the music -- tap my foot, maybe do the Nod. It's not pretension. Is frenetic movement and dancing the natural state of man?
last night, looked like a painting. it went a little too far. [/b]
I thought people were playing the silent game.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
I had tickets for the show but decided that it wouldn't be worth the hassle to go to the show.
I would have liked to see Secret Machines though.
My sentiments exactly....though it seemed like a hassle because I had to work very late after a long meeting -- so at 10:00 I just couldn't get over there (especially to a sold out show). And, I wanted to see Secret Machines the most, but had already missed them.
If I hadn't seen Muse the night before, I might have made myself go. But, I'm not as in to Interpol as Muse, so I didn't feel overly deprived by missing the show last night.
Sounds like the Muse crowd was a lot more fun anyhow....
:D
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
and you would have to hear past it, not see past it
i wasn't talking about their music, genius. the music is still solid. i was talking about figuratively looking past the idea of a once-cultish indie band gaining a sizeable fanbase that may include a large number of unintelligent boors. [/b]
Don't think that was ggw's point, because I agree with him. It's not that they're getting a big audience, it's that they're getting a big audience who suck (generally) at concerts. Very different thing...and reason enough to miss a show if you're on the fence.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Amen.
I like to hang out and enjoy the music -- tap my foot, maybe do the Nod. It's not pretension.
That's ggw going absolutely apeshit -- you see that head nod, and you know, he is LOVING this show.
:p
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November 13, 2004
ROCK REVIEW | INTERPOL
The New York Times
Dissonant and Kind of Cool, 'She Is a Porno,' Too
By KELEFA SANNEH
It's easy to make fun of Interpol.
Those self-consciously cryptic lyrics! (The Web site www.stylusmag.com (http://www.stylusmag.com) recently posted a list of the "Top 10 Worst Lines on Interpol's First Album." No. 4 was the infamous refrain from the song "NYC," which goes, "The subway/She is a porno.")
Those leaden, purposely awkward songs! (Paul Banks, the singer, loves to find a two- or three-note phrase and stick to it obstinately, as if to remind listeners that he's a misfit even in his own band.)
That bass player! (Last year Spin magazine named Interpol's bassist, Carlos D., the ninth "coolest person in rock," despite - or maybe because of - his passing resemblance to the gangly military buff Gareth Keenan from "The Office"; they even wear matching gun holsters.)
But success has somehow made it easier to see why people love Interpol, which came to Hammerstein Ballroom on Thursday night for the first of two sold-out shows. And while the artful dissonance remained, the band also sounded bigger and tougher than ever, despite - or, again, maybe because of - the bass player, who sometimes goose-stepped across the stage.
Interpol's new album, "Antics" (Matador), is an improvement over its rather joyless neo-new-wave debut, "Turn on the Bright Lights." The CD begins with an overture, "Next Exit," which also began Thursday's concert; like many of the best songs on "Antics," it has a warm, familiar chord progression that gives it a glow to offset Mr. Banks's gloom. As the song gathered heft, Mr. Banks intoned, "You've been building up steam, ignited by this fight/So do this thing with me, instead of tying on a tight one tonight," a sturdy couplet that even a snarky Web site would probably find unobjectionable.
There were still dull stretches, but the best moments hinted at the group's secret strength: machismo. Interpol specializes in lovelorn songs that conjure up manly tenacity. During "Public Pervert," Mr. Banks followed his band's glimmering groove without quite giving in to it. He sang plaintive lyrics ("How many days will it take to land?/How many ways to reach your hand?") with an obvious shudder and a less obvious hint of swagger; he sounded not just gloomy, but defiantly gloomy.
The opening act was the Secret Machines, whose music is sparser and drier than Interpol's. A trio, the group builds elegant songs out of minimalist instrumental lines that sometimes seem to stretch out forever toward the horizon. Unfortunately, a Bob Dylan cover (a moaned-and-sighed "Girl of the North Country") seemed endless, too, but the band's minor hit, "Nowhere Again," sounded fantastic: an intoxicating dose of chilly exuberance, never quite bubbling over into pure joy.
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Originally posted by Bags:
November 13, 2004
ROCK REVIEW | INTERPOL
The New York Times
Dissonant and Kind of Cool, 'She Is a Porno,' Too
By KELEFA SANNEH
Interpol's new album, "Antics" (Matador), is an improvement over its rather joyless neo-new-wave debut, "Turn on the Bright Lights." The CD begins with an overture, "Next Exit," which also began Thursday's concert; like many of the best songs on "Antics," it has a warm, familiar chord progression that gives it a glow to offset Mr. Banks's gloom. As the song gathered heft, Mr. Banks intoned, "You've been building up steam, ignited by this fight/So do this thing with me, instead of tying on a tight one tonight," a sturdy couplet that even a snarky Web site would probably find unobjectionable.
There were still dull stretches, but the best moments hinted at the group's secret strength: machismo. Interpol specializes in lovelorn songs that conjure up manly tenacity. During "Public Pervert," Mr. Banks followed his band's glimmering groove without quite giving in to it. He sang plaintive lyrics ("How many days will it take to land?/How many ways to reach your hand?") with an obvious shudder and a less obvious hint of swagger; he sounded not just gloomy, but defiantly gloomy.
The opening act was the Secret Machines, whose music is sparser and drier than Interpol's. A trio, the group builds elegant songs out of minimalist instrumental lines that sometimes seem to stretch out forever toward the horizon. Unfortunately, a Bob Dylan cover (a moaned-and-sighed "Girl of the North Country") seemed endless, too, but the band's minor hit, "Nowhere Again," sounded fantastic: an intoxicating dose of chilly exuberance, never quite bubbling over into pure joy.
I was at the show - that's a fair review. Next Exit is a perfect opener.
Like DC, it was a very passive crowd.
The Secret Machines have come a LONG way since I last saw them noodling around over keyboards.
And I'll never complain about drink prices @ the 9:30 again - a bottle of beer poured into a cup @ the Hammerstein was $8.00!! :eek:
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Originally posted by Bags:
("How many days will it take to land?/How many ways to reach your hand?")
Hmm, they missed on the lyric, the second line is "How many ways to reach abandon?"
Signed,
A Public Pervert. :D
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Video for "Evil" (http://www.labels.tm.fr/fr/player/player_video.asp?artiste=IN069&support=0724386636522&galette=01&track=02) They should have gotten Joshua (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/images/FF_125_white_3.jpg) for the video instead. :D