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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: on February 06, 2006, 10:12:00 am
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I just saw it aired on the Disco channel. How much more queer could that grizzly fag have been? His gay Alaskan cowboy act makes Isaac Mizrahi look like Lou Ferrigno. He treated those bears like Paris Hilton fawns all over the disgusting pet rats she's always lugging around.
Near the end the director, Werner Herzog, alluded to the existence of an audio tape of the grizzly swish being eaten alive by the bear, saying, "...but we are not gonna air it out of repect for him."
What a huge letdown!
Oh, how much I would pay to hear that tape....
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He was not gay. At one point he said that his life would be much easier if he were gay, because then he could get sex at truckstop rest stops, but alas, he wasn't.
Way too many damned commercials. Glad I had a vcr and could forward through the commercials.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
At one point he said that his life would be much easier if he were gay, because then he could get sex at truckstop rest stops, but alas
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Begging your pardon sir, but the above statement doesn't sound like anything a real, butch Alaskan would utter in the bush.
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He was a Californian who went to Alaska only during the summer. Everyone in California is gay, anyway. Except for Timothy Treadwell. He was straight.
Originally posted by snarfle:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
At one point he said that his life would be much easier if he were gay, because then he could get sex at truckstop rest stops, but alas
Begging your pardon sir, but the above statement doesn't sound like anything a butch Alaskan would utter in the bush. [/b]
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Is this different than the movie they did about him? From what I understand that did have at least some of the audio tape of the attack.
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This is the documentary that got so many raves this past year, and is the 2005 version of "how on earth did that documentary not get nominated for an Oscar" debate. I haven't seen it yet, but did Tivo it. Saw a few minutes when Herzog listens to the audio of Grizzly Man and his girlfriend being mauled, and he tells Grizzly Man's mom (?) to never, ever listen, and in fact destroy the tape.
For some of the mostly glowing reviews, links are here. (http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/grizzlyman)
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Originally posted by Bags:
Saw a few minutes when Herzog listens to the audio of Grizzly Man and his girlfriend being mauled
Herzog said he shouts a message to his "female companion" while he's in the midst of being eaten alive. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts he yells out to that chick camp-follower something very Rikki Lake -ish like, "AIYEEEEEEEE! YOU GO GIRLFRIEND!"
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Originally posted by Bags:
Grizzly Man's mom (?)
former girlfriend
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i tivo'ed the disc channel pres of the movie...how many gd commercials did they squeeze into that movie? ridiculous. i'm into the last hour, but i'm a bit disappointed by it so far. werner herzog's footage of the ex-girlfriend and coroner seem a bit staged/contrived...
i don't think tim threadwell is gay, just creepy and eccentric. i appreciate his desire to bond with the bears and educate people on the threat to the grizzly's habitat, but his approach was insane and perhaps may have done more harm than good. i believe it was the native alaskan guy talking about the respect and distance of his people from the bears and the necessity to maintain this divide. threadwell, by befriending the bears, was only creating a conduit for other human contact with the animals.
one of the most personal, yet bizarre, pieces of footage was his monologue during which he said "i will die for these animals" over and over. did anyone else see this as his acknowledgement (or desire?) that he would someday die by the hand of a grizzly bear?
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Originally posted by joz:
i don't think tim threadwell is gay
Ditto. I knew several hippy guys like that in college, none of whom were gay (and, in fact, some were quite the womanizers with their feminine sides all exposed and receptive to intimacy....). It's all part of a particular alternative/"in touch with nature" affect.
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They commercialed the SHIT out of it on Discovery!! Rent the DVD and enjoy at your leasure....
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Originally posted by Jonas Grumby:
They commercialed the SHIT out of it on Discovery!! Rent the DVD and enjoy at your leasure....
Do we know if they cut any of it out? I've got it on Tivo, so can skip the ads. Also, does the DVD have any extras particularly worth checking out?
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I was wondering if the bleeping of the profanities was a feature of the big screen version, or was it censored for television only. One "fuck" did slip through.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
I was wondering if the bleeping of the profanities was a feature of the big screen version, or was it censored for television only. One "fuck" did slip through.
i dont remember any bleeping in the dvd
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I saw the DVD about a month ago and then checked it out Sat. night for a bit before the commercials made me turn it off. I'm not sure how much they edited out of the Discovery airing, but I do think that they added the Letterman appearance which I don't think was in the DVD version.
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I always thought this guy was a dumbass, so I skipped this movie. But a friend of mine says that it is extremely well done.
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Plus he's a pale skinny blonde guy with little body hair. Hardly a "grizzly man", or a bearman for that matter.
Originally posted by bearman:
I always thought this guy was a dumbass, so I skipped this movie. But a friend of mine says that it is extremely well done.
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Gay or not, Timothy Threadbare certainly could have benefitted from a queer makeover.
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"Eat me!...please"
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So did he have any background that would make him an expert on Grizzlies?
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his background on bears was pretty much limited to having a stuffed animal bear that he loved growing up....
he was a nut, who it was pointed out in a book I read before I saw the movie (the grizzly maze, it was called) that by dying, he cause at least 2-3 bears to be killed, so his wish to keep them from harm failed cause of his utter stupidity...
neverthless, I thought the movie was fascinating and utterly compelling....
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HERZOG SHOT DURING INTERVIEW (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/herzog%20shot%20during%20interview_03_02_2006)
German director WERNER HERZOG was shot by a crazed fan during a recent interview with the BBC.
The 63-year-old was chatting with movie journalist MARK KERMODE about his new documentary GRIZZLY MAN, when a sniper opened fire with an air rifle.
Kermode explains, "I thought a firecracker had gone off.
"Herzog, as if it was the most normal thing in the world, said, 'Oh, someone is shooting at us. We must go.'
"He had a bruise the size of a snooker ball, with a hole in. He just carried on with the interview while bleeding quietly in his boxer shorts."
An unrepentant Herzog insisted, "It was not a significant bullet. I am not afraid."
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IIt, in fact, was not a crazed fan but Dick Cheney. The world is simply not safe.
Originally posted by Nguyen Sitch Hugh-Haitian:
HERZOG SHOT DURING INTERVIEW (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/herzog%20shot%20during%20interview_03_02_2006)
German director WERNER HERZOG was shot by a crazed fan during a recent interview with the BBC.
The 63-year-old was chatting with movie journalist MARK KERMODE about his new documentary GRIZZLY MAN, when a sniper opened fire with an air rifle.
Kermode explains, "I thought a firecracker had gone off.
"Herzog, as if it was the most normal thing in the world, said, 'Oh, someone is shooting at us. We must go.'
"He had a bruise the size of a snooker ball, with a hole in. He just carried on with the interview while bleeding quietly in his boxer shorts."
An unrepentant Herzog insisted, "It was not a significant bullet. I am not afraid."
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Originally posted by Bags:
IIt, in fact, was not a crazed fan but Dick Cheney. The world is simply not safe.
LOL (http://www.lol.li/) :D
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but what about the bears that ate him? were they gay?
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Within five minutes, the viewer begins to realize that this guy is merely a selfish, effeminate head case working through his own identity crisis and not in the least concerned with the plight of the powerful, savage animals he professes to love. In truest buffoon fashion, he spends long periods ranting in front of a fixed camera, informing the world that he's "the only person on earth who can live among these bears" and that "anyone else would be killed ...anyone! Nobody else knows how to live among these animals like me ... no one!" ... Of course, like all those sadly lacking the credentials to mock and tempt the great God, Fate, he gets ripped to shreds and devoured soon thereafter. The colossal pity is that the bear who eats him is later pointlessly killed by rangers for performing a purely natural act on his own remote turf. Even more shameful is the fact that this asshole actually had an audio recording device running as the grizzly slowly disassembled him, but the documentary's director wouldn't share his final agonized screams with the audience. My documentary would have been a tad different...it would have been entitled "Shrieks of the Disemboweled ".
Oh, don't get me wrong. I thoroughly enjoyed it, too...especially the inevitable conclusion which represents one of the few times I've seen true cosmic justice in action. ....My complaint is that Herzog, who assembled the footage, didn't let us hear the effeminate asshole's ribs being snapped and extracted like popsicle sticks and his numb skull getting crushed like a walnut in the bear's mighty jaws. The most ironic element is that the girl he coaxed into staying out there in the wild with him had reservations about it all the way down the line and was due to leave just after the bear made her pay the high price of keeping bad company.
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Originally posted by Nguyen Sitch Hugh-Haitian:
Within five minutes, the viewer begins to realize that this guy is merely a selfish, effeminate head case working through his own identity crisis and not in the least concerned with the plight of the powerful, savage animals he professes to love.
I think this, in part, is what expands the film's story beyond the grizzlies and asks questions about the nature of men and their various weaknesses and psychological handicaps.
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I don't know anything about this movie until this thread. Also, I thought this thread would be about:
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i saw this tripe in the theater, and it sucks in every way. i was waiting the entire time for an explanation as to why he talks like a BABY half the time. that was unsettling. the movie was a great ad for psychotherapy for the mentally ill.
check out "why we fight" if you want a more compelling documentary. you will have heard a lot of it before, but it is well worth checking out. richard perle is a psychopath from way back. the film should probably be required viewing for impressionable youth along with "the fog of war." we have turned into a nation of whackos on a permanent war footing.
note to neocons/"democracy spreaders": one lil' problem with your theory for global domination is that plenty of these countries will fall all over themselves to vote for assholes. (see hamas.)
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I didn't have a problem with that.
Don't a number of people talk "baby" to their pets, or infant children? I think he regarded the bears as his children that he was attempting to protect.
Originally posted by jdr:
i saw this tripe in the theater, and it sucks in every way. i was waiting the entire time for an explanation as to why he talks like a BABY half the time. that was unsettling. the movie was a great ad for psychotherapy for the mentally ill.
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Originally posted by Nguyen Sitch Hugh-Haitian:
"Herzog, as if it was the most normal thing in the world, said, 'Oh, someone is shooting at us. We must go.'
After seeing how Herzog dealt with Klaus Kinski in the documentary on Kinski, I'm sure Herzog can handle most situations patiently.
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Originally posted by econo:
Originally posted by Nguyen Sitch Hugh-Haitian:
"Herzog, as if it was the most normal thing in the world, said, 'Oh, someone is shooting at us. We must go.'
After seeing how Herzog dealt with Klaus Kinski in the documentary on Kinski, I'm sure Herzog can handle most situations patiently. [/b]
Werner Herzog pulled Joaquin Phoenix from car wreck (http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3478562)
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I haven't seen it, but oddly enough, someone recommended this movie to me last night. I hadn't heard of it until then. The whole thing about him getting eaten at the end by a bear intrigues me enough to want to rent it.
I would think that somewhere on the internet you can find the audio of him being eaten.
Dupek???
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Werner Herzog pulled Phoenix from car wreck...
Then ole Werner's sort of like Chuck Norris in that regard. Phoenix rose out of the ashes of the wreck...all thanks to Werner Herzog. What a guy!