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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: andyrichter on August 29, 2003, 12:08:00 am
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as if anyone really cared, the fall hfstival was cancelled, my guess is due to poor ticket sales and could you blame the people looking at that awful lineup? so uh, in the words of my boy nelson from the simpsons, ha ha!
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
as if anyone really cared, the fall hfstival was cancelled, my guess is due to poor ticket sales and could you blame the people looking at that awful lineup? so uh, in the words of my boy nelson from the simpsons, ha ha!
Your assumption is correct (http://www.dcrtv.net)
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"WHFS is having some serious second thoughts about the first ever fall version of its HFStival,"
They had a fall version of HFStival back in like 1999
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That's not good, there'll be mass demonstrations in the area middle schools I'm sure.
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how am i ever going to live without seeing Staind?
shit
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hopefully it will make them reconsider the shit they play and promote...............
naaaaah that's just crazzzzzy talk..........they are much more likely to find another reason for the lack of ticket sales........................
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..or they'll just have the next one before the kids go back to school.
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cancelling the hfstival is the best thing that they could have ever done.
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we are still selling tickets at my work though. so i suppose the just havent OFFICIALLY decided to kill it.
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now on thier website it says
"Due to a scheduling conflict..."
yeah, right.
just goes to show, you can only rip off the public once a year....
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
just goes to show, you can only rip off the public once a year....
Not true...ticketbastard does it millions of times every day.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
we are still selling tickets at my work though. so i suppose the just havent OFFICIALLY decided to kill it.
That's probably because TicketBastards don't want to stop the influx of non-refundable service charges. Fuckers! :mad:
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You know, this all makes me a little sad. I don't want the HFStival to go away completely, I just want it to be good again. It was good for a number of years in the mid to late 90s. It can be good, there are oodles of other radio alternative music summer festivals that have much better lineups than we've been seeing lately. Come on, this is D.C., a major market. Let's sharpen up, here!
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bags...the reality is the only stations that would do a decent festival would be a small independant one, unfortunately, thanks to companies like Clearchannel etc. they buy them up and fuck them up. Don't know if they bought HFS but it doesn't matter, it's just teenie-bopper hippity hoppity, rap, limp-dickshit shite all the time regardless of who owns it.
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Anyone want to start up a local radio station that plays real music?
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If you're looking for the perfect show, I agree with you, mank. But a lot of the other summer festivals are better than the HFStival -- the KROQ shows on both coasts and various other festivals throughout the country.
But you're right; there's no going back with HFS. I can't listen to that shit for a minute.
Give me WOXY or give me deaf!
Originally posted by mankie:
bags...the reality is the only stations that would do a decent festival would be a small independant one, unfortunately, thanks to companies like Clearchannel etc. they buy them up and fuck them up. Don't know if they bought HFS but it doesn't matter, it's just teenie-bopper hippity hoppity, rap, limp-dickshit shite all the time regardless of who owns it.
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This could be the new blood HFS needs...just cut down on the bands with misspelled names (Staind, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, etc...) and I'll be happy.
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"Lisa Worden To HFS - 8/22 - DCRTV reported in early August that Lisa Worden of LA alt rocker KROQ had the inside track to become program director at like formatted WHFS. And now we're getting confirmation of our exclusive report; she arrives in September. Worden received the 2002 "alternative music director of the year" award from Radio And Records. While both stations are owned by Infinity, KROQ is at the top of the ratings heap while WHFS is at the bottom. Plus, this scuttles any 99.1 format change rumors for the time being. HFS's old PD, Robert Benjamin, recently took off for the west coast....."
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HFS has sucked for so long now, I can't even remember anymore when it didn't suck! It is the most thoroughly sucky station ever to blight DC's airwaves, all the more so because they still harbor bogus pretensions to being "alternative!" Did I mention they suck?
http://www.whfssucks.com (http://www.alex.to/lavalampcity/home.html)
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Originally posted by eros:
This could be the new blood HFS needs...just cut down on the bands with misspelled names (Staind, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, etc...) and I'll be happy.
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"Lisa Worden To HFS - 8/22 - DCRTV reported in early August that Lisa Worden of LA alt rocker KROQ had the inside track to become program director at like formatted WHFS. And now we're getting confirmation of our exclusive report; she arrives in September. Worden received the 2002 "alternative music director of the year" award from Radio And Records. While both stations are owned by Infinity, KROQ is at the top of the ratings heap while WHFS is at the bottom. Plus, this scuttles any 99.1 format change rumors for the time being. HFS's old PD, Robert Benjamin, recently took off for the west coast....."
Doesn't look like much of an improvement:
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KROQ Most Played
1 Hot Hot Heat Talk To Me, Dance With Me
2 Radiohead There, There
3 Queens of the Stone Age Go with the Flow
4 The White Stripes The Hardest Button to Button
5 Linkin Park Numb
6 Outkast Hey Ya
7 A Perfect Circle Weak and Powerless
8 Fountains of Wayne Stacy's Mom
9 Staind So Far Away
10 Linkin Park Faint
11 Jane's Addiction Just Because
12 Trapt Headstrong
13 Brand New The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
14 The Ataris Boys of Summer
15 Chevelle Send The Pain Below
16 311 Creatures (For A While)
17 AFI The Leaving Song Pt. II
18 Korn Did My Time
19 The White Stripes Seven Nation Army
20 Smile Empty Soul Bottom of a Bottle
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unless it's a oldies station, radio is going to play what the major labels are pushing... indie labels can never compete with the amount of "promotional" money that major labels line the radio broadcasters pockets with. an indie station could never survive in dc because it would takes millions of dollars to buy one, and then good luck getting advertisers as clear channel would just keep under cutting your ad rates.
welcome to america where the big box mentality is king and the little guy be damned... bigger is not always better unless your clear channel or ticketmaster. :mad:
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So how does Cincinnati support a great indie station (WOXY), and DC can't?
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
unless it's a oldies station, radio is going to play what the major labels are pushing... indie labels can never compete with the amount of "promotional" money that major labels line the radio broadcasters pockets with. an indie station could never survive in dc because it would takes millions of dollars to buy one, and then good luck getting advertisers as clear channel would just keep under cutting your ad rates.
welcome to america where the big box mentality is king and the little guy be damned... bigger is not always better unless your clear channel or ticketmaster. :mad:
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Originally posted by Member 656:
Your assumption is correct (http://www.dcrtv.net) [/b]
The other day I read on this site (can't find it now) a very derogatory comment about HFS playing music made mostly by young White males. Knowing how these fuckers tend to think, that sounds like they will now play a lot more Beyonce, Missy Elliot and Miss Dynamite. :roll:
Sorry boys, that won't get you anymore listeners.
My favorite station is still www.3wk.com (http://www.3wk.com) though I do like to switch around for variety's sake. As far a using a regular radio in this area, WTMD is okay sometimes but they often get on my freaking nerves for reasons that I won't go into now other than that they DO NOT rock. In their defense, they have surprised me at times with music from the likes of Leaves, Haven, The Buffseeds, Ride, Super Furry Animals, and Joseph Arthur.
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Originally posted by bags:
So how does Cincinnati support a great indie station (WOXY), and DC can't?
Considering DC is the 8th largest radio market and Cincinnati, OH is 32nd on the list. The owner of WOXY is also not selling out to the highest bidder preferring to remain independent for the time being and establishing an internet presence.
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specially with it costing 40+ if they lowered the price and got music that could get many people to come... even if they dont play them on the radio keep the crap bands but get some hardcore and real metal bands to play a stage somewhere that could get more people, look at things like hellfest that are doing well...and stop getting rappers. but i know nothing, i would rather see bands at a place like the 930 club or jaxx then out in the daylike with all the radio rockers and posers.
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A few years back I was at a Beck show at the Patriot Center and between the opening act and Beck this female DJ from WHFS walks out (of course she's dressed in all black) and starts running her mouth. In unison the one finger salute went up - my kind of crowd.
I'm driving up to Columbia listening to WTMD and their playing Rusted Root then kick into a classic song from Gang of Four. Awesome!
WHFS sucks.
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Ahem, college radio: www.wmucradio.com. (http://www.wmucradio.com.) Yeah, it's only the air at college park, but we always stream online. If you explore the bottom end of your fm dial near any college campus (around 88 or 89) you may find something worth listening to.
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The bad news is the bands I wanted to see won't be there. The good news is that I won't waste $40, but I do got a chance to head over to Ballston for Blocktoberfest (http://www.blocktoberfest.com/lineup.htm) on October 4th for $10. You also get to see college football inside the bars. What else do you want.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Anyone want to start up a local radio station that plays real music?
Do you guys no longer have any decent college radio?I know back in the day 88.5 WAMU used to be great,have they shut down college radio in the area.What about GMU,or is it no longer functioning either.My friend Greg used to be able to do a decent show when he attended there.I haven't tuned in to radio in your area for ages though.
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Originally posted by RonniStar:
You also get to see college football inside the bars. What else do you want.
OOOOOH, baby runny-catchy. Can't wait. :roll:
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Anyone want to start up a local radio station that plays real music?
Do you guys no longer have any decent college radio?I know back in the day 88.5 WAMU used to be great,have they shut down college radio in the area.What about GMU,or is it no longer functioning either.My friend Greg used to be able to do a decent show when he attended there.I haven't tuned in to radio in your area for ages though. [/b]
From my youth there was WCVT in Towshend which is now crap, WJHU at 10,000 + watts drowns out the College Park station (where I worked in college "Ten watts of power!") and most of the other ones that I do here are bullied by the bluegrassers and classical fans.
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Blocktoberfest....it's what you do during a month you can't get to Dewey for the latest Love Seed Mama Jump show.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Anyone want to start up a local radio station that plays real music?
Do you guys no longer have any decent college radio?I know back in the day 88.5 WAMU used to be great,have they shut down college radio in the area.What about GMU,or is it no longer functioning either.My friend Greg used to be able to do a decent show when he attended there.I haven't tuned in to radio in your area for ages though. [/b]
there's a station at GMU...i've walked by it a couple times, but never tuned in to give it a listen...next time i am on campus i'll try to check it out
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Towson State has a good Americana-oriented station.
Not that it does us DC people much good.
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[ [/qb][/QUOTE]there's a station at GMU...i've walked by it a couple times, but never tuned in to give it a listen...next time i am on campus i'll try to check it out [/QB][/QUOTE] Guess it all depends on rather they can find any willing students to man it with.Particularly with some decent taste in music.Glad to see they are still trying at least.
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Guess I'll have to wait and see Thrice some other time. Who were those other bands playing HFstival anyway? Letterkills... :D