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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ratioci nation on August 30, 2004, 05:27:00 pm
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clearly, whomever Kerry points at is unfit for command.
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"Suburban Houston Swingers Party"
Originally posted by pollard:
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Despite attempts by Democrats and liberal activists to bully bookstores into refusing to sell Unfit For Command, God-fearing Americans such as Mrs. Jadetree Pollard [pictured above] have made the expose a late-summer publishing blockbuster
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The winner of the Republican silly hat competition was thrilled with her prize of the book Big Brother Ashcroft had deemed required reading for all obedient citizens.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
"Suburban Houston Swingers Party"
Originally posted by pollard:
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she looks like she's straight outta provo to me.
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You think she's with that new Gangsta Rap group M.W.A.?
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
straight outta provo
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After seeing on Fox News that Unfit for Command could keep flip flopper extraordinaire John Kerry out of the White House, Gertrude Garnetta Wilson, went out and bought 5 copies. The rush of people like Gertrude to be the first conservative on the block to have their copy has left it difficult for large chains to keep the book in stock. Wilson is shown here with her copy at the convention, she wanted to show just how committed she was to the cause. Asked why she supported the president, she said, I am just so scared of the terrorists, we can't have a waffler like that Kerry in office, Sean Hanity told me so.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
You think she's with that new Gangsta Rap group M.W.A.?
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
straight outta provo
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U dOnT mEsS 'RoUnD WiT ThOs PrOvO GaNgStAa HoS.
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Dear Lord we pray our son, ggw, doesn't throw a big party at our house while we're away in New York city.
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i love the smell of catastrophic success (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1293420,00.html) in the morning
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END WOMENS SUFFRAGE NOW, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
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i pray for my money back because i am a republican who wants another yacht.
why the fuck is this guy taking my picture?
these were free at the door...
i got here a little to early.
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Dear God,
I can't help that my husband forced me to come. He said he would stop wearing that darn hat if I did, so what was a woman to do? However God, I do have one wish. I know that I'm a republican, and that I bought this book to fit in...but I need some help. Please bring clarity to the people of the US so that they see this schmuck president for who he really is, just a silver spoon wanna be farmboy not fit to even run the Texas Rangers. Hopefully that will guarantee his loss. If it doesn't, please make it clear to Ralph Nader that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in (H E double hockeystick) to win, and if he continues with his delusions of grandeur that he will just mess it up for everyone like he did in 2000. Thank you Lord. Your omnipotent servant, Hester.
Amen
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"Ahhh..., nothing like the smell of a big fresh load of crap."
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"...And Heavenly Father we also pray that you will provide that poor, misguided, heathen muff-diver Mary Cheney with a nice husband before November."
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She's no stupider looking then the moronic protesters outside the convention. I say, run them all over!!!!!!!!!
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Dear god, I have heard of these things called orgasms and how wonderful they are. Please, if its not asking too much, send this man to me for one night so I can find out for my self. Do this for me and I promise I'll never vote to re-elect a total fucking moron on a persomnal mission to settle his daddy's issues.
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Looks like they added a caption on the top right corner:
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just goes to prove what sheep conservatives are :p
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GGW, it appears a similar caption was added below:
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just goes to prove what sheep liberals are :p
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heh, it's hard to have a coherent conversation with the type of people who think an illicit BJ is worse than starting an illicit war.
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i do believe that perjury is a criminal offense punishable by time served in prison. as for the war, well, it was approved by congress, and supported by one john kerry.
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http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4035 (http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4035)
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
i do believe that perjury is a criminal offense punishable by time served in prison. as for the war, well, it was approved by congress, and supported by one john kerry.
and i am sure everyone would have been as concerned about it if it had not been perjury concerning sex with an intern, a little intellectually dishonest don't you think
*already regretting I brought it up*
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The Onion is satire. The real story under that headline would be about Kerry, Soros and Bing.
Originally posted by saco:
http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4035 (http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4035)
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Originally posted by pollard:
*already regretting I brought it up*
me too. . .
i don't know which is worse, playing the clinton he lied card or the bush war card. seems to me that either is the result of a lack of intelligent discussion of the issues.
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Absolutely.
Do you really think that any member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracyâ?¢ would have passed up a chance to crucify Slick Willie for lying under oath? Regardless of the subject of the lie.
Originally posted by pollard:
and i am sure everyone would have been as concerned about it if it had not been perjury concerning sex with an intern, a little intellectually dishonest don't you think
*already regretting I brought it up*
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There seems little doubt that America is a plutocracy.
I also wonder if the world would have been so much different today if Gore had got into power.
I do wonder if the American leadership would be as globally despised. Because Bush comes across as being stupid, it is difficult to have any confidence in his judgement or leadership.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Because Bush comes across as being stupid, it is difficult to have any confidence in his judgement or leadership.
Sad thing is, he's probably smarter than all of us on this board put together times thirteen. Well maybe not as smart as Flawd since he has come a long ways with his spelling the last four to six months.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
]Sad thing is, he's probably smarter than all of us on this board put together times thirteen.
Do you really believe that?
So the making up words, malapropisms and stupid comments are just to put him in touch with the common American?
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
So the making up words, malapropisms and stupid comments are just to put him in touch with the common American? [/QB]
Bill Clinton put himself in touch with the common American when he committed Adultry. ;)
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
as for the war, well, it was approved by congress, and supported by one john kerry.
Actually it wasn't. Congress never voted on a Declaration of War against Iraq. The Senate voted to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.
Anybody see any problems there?
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I'll take George Soros over Richard Mellon Scaife anytime.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/scaifemain050299.htm (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/scaifemain050299.htm)
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well I got busy after posting so couldn't continue the discussion, glad it did not get too nasty, and I was not playing a war card, I think both sides are hypocrites, I just dislike Bush more
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Absolutely.
Do you really think that any member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracyâ?¢ would have passed up a chance to crucify Slick Willie for lying under oath? Regardless of the subject of the lie.
the fact that it involved sex allowed them to get the traction they needed with their consituency, if it had been a lie about an arcane bureaucratic issue it would not have ended in impeachment
my dad carries a member of the Right Wing conspiracy card and thinks it is funny, I am just glad he does not have the right to vote
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
heh, it's hard to have a coherent conversation with the type of people who think an illicit BJ is worse than starting an illicit war.
i'm stirring it given what takes place after this comment... but that free conservative forum i got unfortunately exposed to because of the skinny puppy discussion a few months back, i really wonder about how people think sometime. when you find an anti-american message in finding nemo WTF...
exactly what did bush do when he took on "Big Hollywood" while guvener in texas?
last night i really began to wonder if via the use of the internet if people could mount a viable third party write in campaign. seeing as it appears that republican message machine is having a field day with everything being offered up by the dems. protests in nyc, kerry's record...
and just who would one want as a viable third party candidate... i would someone whose political but outside the party system. because a person like perot would never be an effective president because he use to being able to order people around, something which can't be done with congress.
oh screw it... it's to tough to create a platform, etc that would pull enough people together.
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i think i just saw that lady during arnold's speech. glad to know he loves Nixon...
i enjoyed arnold's jokes....true lies....ahaha...
only person that makes less pronounciation mistakes than GW.
scrubs was funny. heather grahmn is hot....
he's doing redneck jokes except its you know your a republican...
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That reminds me of Gore Vidal's comment regarding Kerry:
"He looks like Abraham Lincoln. . .after the assassination."
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
heh, it's hard to have a coherent conversation with the type of people who think an illicit BJ is worse than starting an illicit war.
yeah, who ever got killed getting, or giving a BJ?
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
i do believe that perjury is a criminal offense punishable by time served in prison. as for the war, well, it was approved by congress, and supported by one john kerry.
And Bush certainly didn't lie about the reasoning for going into Irag. Where are those WMD's again? Let alone the fact that yeah Hussein was a wordly asshole/dictator, but are we now going to go after everyone of them in the world? North Korea has nuclear capabilities, Iraq didn't. Iran is on the verge of having them as well. This seemed to have been a continuation of a pissing contest that was started by W's father a while back.
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I love how George W. Bush can be cast simultaneously (and often by the same person) as both a complete moron and a genius capable of singlehandedly fooling the world into believing Hussein had WMDs.
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I can't believe how someone as bright as you can support GW Bush. I'm not one to dismiss all Republicans in one fell swoop, some Republicans would probably make good presidents. I just don't see how anyone can support the current one.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I love how George W. Bush can be cast simultaneously (and often by the same person) as both a complete moron and a genius capable of singlehandedly fooling the world into believing Hussein had WMDs.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I can't believe how someone as bright as you can support GW Bush. I'm not one to dismiss all Republicans in one fell swoop, some Republicans would probably make good presidents. I just don't see how anyone can support the current one.
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Well I support him because I couldnt Imagine supporting that putz Al Gore. If Kerry wins, then I'll support him because he won........period.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
She's no stupider looking then the moronic protesters outside the convention. I say, run them all over!!!!!!!!!
silly protesters! why cant they just conform to the government?! jeepers.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
She's no stupider looking then the moronic protesters outside the convention. I say, run them all over!!!!!!!!!
silly protesters! why cant they just conform to the government?! jeepers. [/b]
Or get a job, then they wouldnt be complaining the rich are too rich. They might actually earn a paycheck and think they are rich themselves. What a concept. :p
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I support Bush for the same reason many support Kerry. Namely, that I find him better than the alternative.
Would I rather be voting for a more moderate (and brighter) member of the party such as McCain or Schwarzenegger (2008 :D )? Absolutely. But those dudes aren't on the ballot.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I can't believe how someone as bright as you can support GW Bush. I'm not one to dismiss all Republicans in one fell swoop, some Republicans would probably make good presidents. I just don't see how anyone can support the current one.
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surely somebody must have seen george w. doing coke off a naked interns bottom...
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I love how George W. Bush can be cast simultaneously (and often by the same person) as both a complete moron and a genius capable of singlehandedly fooling the world into believing Hussein had WMDs.
Don't think he fooled the world on that one. Just the stupid people. And it wasn't necessary fooling anyone, just a way to take what the world was feeling at the time, and use that to clean up his Daddy's mess instead of finding the person responsible for 9/11. That guy that is still out there known as bin Laden.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I support Bush for the same reason many support Kerry. Namely, that I find him better than the alternative.
Would I rather be voting for a more moderate (and brighter) member of the party such as McCain or Schwarzenegger (2008 :D )? Absolutely. But those dudes aren't on the ballot.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I can't believe how someone as bright as you can support GW Bush. I'm not one to dismiss all Republicans in one fell swoop, some Republicans would probably make good presidents. I just don't see how anyone can support the current one.
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I would support McCain. Schwarzengger is a flash in the pan, his English is worse than Bush. Let alone, he has no hopes of becoming President. The Constitution doesn't allow that, and that part won't change.
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Originally posted by hitman:
Don't think he fooled the world on that one. Just the stupid people.
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force â?? if necessary â?? to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"How close is the peril of Iraqi WMD? Today, or at most within a few months, Iraq could launch missile attacks with chemical or biological weapons against its neighbors (albeit attacks that would be ragged, inaccurate, and limited in size). Within four or five years it could have the capability to threaten most of the Middle East and parts of Europe with missiles armed with nuclear weapons containing fissile material produced indigenouslyâ?? and to threaten U.S. territory with such weapons delivered by nonconventional means, such as commercial shipping containers. If it managed to get its hands on sufficient quantities of already produced fissile material, these threats could arrive much sooner."
Robert Einhorn, Clinton's assistant secretary of state for nonproliferation, March 2002
U.S. government analysts were not alone in these views. In the late spring of 2002 I participated in a Washington meeting about Iraqi WMD. Those present included nearly twenty former inspectors from the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), the force established in 1991 to oversee the elimination of WMD in Iraq. One of the senior people put a question to the group: Did anyone in the room doubt that Iraq was currently operating a secret centrifuge plant? No one did. Three people added that they believed Iraq was also operating a secret calutron plant (a facility for separating uranium isotopes).
Other nations' intelligence services were similarly aligned with U.S. views. Somewhat remarkably, given how adamantly Germany would oppose the war, the German Federal Intelligence Service held the bleakest view of all, arguing that Iraq might be able to build a nuclear weapon within three years. Israel, Russia, Britain, China, and even France held positions similar to that of the United States; France's President Jacques Chirac told Time magazine last February, "There is a problemâ??the probable possession of weapons of mass destruction by an uncontrollable country, Iraq. The international community is right ... in having decided Iraq should be disarmed." In sum, no one doubted that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
Kenneth M. Pollack, Clinton's National Security Council - Director for Persian Gulf Affairs 1999-2001.
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I'm sure the idiots around here will say that they were misquoated. :roll:
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I'm sure the idiots around here will say that they were misquoated. :roll:
Not necessarily misquoted, but misled by bad intelligence.
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GGW, I don't necessarily agree with you, but there is no doubt that you are the man.
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But some of these quotes were well before the Bush years. If the same faulty intellegence that lead Clinton to say those things led Bush to do the same, can we blame either of them? If anything, the heinous part of the Bush administration's plan was them stressing the link to 9/11.
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
GGW, I don't necessarily agree with you, but there is no doubt that you are the man.
Indeed...I tangled with GGW once....never again!
But GGW, I think yer wrong!! ;)
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you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
which is why we need a good strong principal as the next president. not the ceo of the republican party or a demonized liberal...
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the point should be made that not everyone believe that there were wmd in the iraq, you can find quotes on either side of the fence. and hussein not bush should be given the real credit for fooling the world.
bush decided that it was taking to long for the un process of inspections to finish.
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Joe Clark for President!
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
which is why we need a good strong principal as the next president. not the ceo of the republican party or a demonized liberal...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
Well put...People who will vote Dem are often characterized as un-american in some way. At least that's how it seems to me sometimes.
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No, no.....You're the man.
Originally posted by nkotbie:
GGW, I don't necessarily agree with you, but there is no doubt that you are the man.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
Thats funny cause people on this board act like bullies when they get behind their keyboards. :cool:
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It does? You must live in South Carolina.
I'm not a Republican, but it seems that they get picked on much more then Democrats....rightfully so, of course.
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
Well put...People who will vote Dem are often characterized as un-american in some way. At least that's how it seems to me sometimes. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
It does? You must live in South Carolina.
I'm not a Republican, but it seems that they get picked on much more then Democrats....rightfully so, of course.
in conservative places that is not the case at all, in many parts of missouri or even in just St. Louis you can get a lot of shit for being a Dem
I think Zell Miller has a great future playing the comedically cranky old man, didn't see his speech, but from reading it that is the sense I got
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That's what I was trying to get across. Granted, if you don't support the war you are painted as un-American by the right (and Rob Gee), but if you happen to be a republican, you are a war-mongering, greedy, homophobic racist. It's such a ridiculous double-standard across the board.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
It does? You must live in South Carolina.
I'm not a Republican, but it seems that they get picked on much more then Democrats....rightfully so, of course.
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I don't necessarily think one gets picked on more than the other....just that the nature of the characterizations seem harsher from some GOP'ers.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
It does? You must live in South Carolina.
I'm not a Republican, but it seems that they get picked on much more then Democrats....rightfully so, of course.
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
Well put...People who will vote Dem are often characterized as un-american in some way. At least that's how it seems to me sometimes. [/b]
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lets take this a little further...
what if in 2002 Kerry had said something about questioning the current intelligence on Iraq's weapons program. that to him the analysis was flawed and more information need to be gathered before action was required. a stance like that would have cast as supporter of hussien now.
if he had said nothing on the situation he would be branded as soft of national defense.
damned if do you damned if you don't.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
lets take this a little further...
what if in 2002 Kerry had said something about questioning the current intelligence on Iraq's weapons program. that to him the analysis was flawed and more information need to be gathered before action was required. a stance like that would have cast as supporter of hussien now.
if he had said nothing on the situation he would be branded as soft of national defense.
damned if do you damned if you don't.
He woulda probably been more hated than France. ;)
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i've been thinking about this way to much late and it's finally coming together so bare with me...
protesters who are seeking to bring about change are always labelled radical out of the mainstream. it was a bunch of radicals who brought about the womens right to vote and the end of segregation in the south. both good things in my mind. there are probably people who still this disagree with both those changes in our society.
today in the land of the free and the home of the brave if you disagree with the president or the way the country is run, you are unamerican, a traitor, etc. and if you don't like leave!
being able to disagree and voice one opinioin is the basic tenet of a democracy... but clearly not in the minds of those who think they are in the right...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
lets take this a little further...
what if in 2002 Kerry had said something about questioning the current intelligence on Iraq's weapons program. that to him the analysis was flawed and more information need to be gathered before action was required. a stance like that would have cast as supporter of hussien now.
if he had said nothing on the situation he would be branded as soft of national defense.
damned if do you damned if you don't.
agreed.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
which is why we need a good strong principal as the next president.
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