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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Sage 703 on February 08, 2006, 01:24:00 pm
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So football is over.
Spring training is two weeks away.
Is there enough interest on here for having a 9:30 Club Fantasy Baseball League?
I'll get one started if so.
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yeah, we had one last year
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I'd love to play if you start a league.
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i also would play
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Okay. League is created. Anybody interested in playing, send me a Private Message and I'll give you the info.
It is a 12 person league - first 11 to get in touch.
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who won last year's league, i forget? anyone remember? smackie, do you remember?
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You're going to have to post you're planned scoring system before I sign up.
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Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Player Universe: All baseball
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2
Trade End Date: August 13, 2006
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Trade Review: League Votes
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 170
Max Innings Pitched: 1300
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 2
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF,
OF, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL
Stat Categories: R, H, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG, OPS, W, SV, K, HLD, ERA, WHIP
Open to amending these if somebody has strong objection to something, but I think these are pretty standard categories. I don't like defensive categories by general rule. Yahoo is also fairly limited in pitching categories - these are really the best options available, in my opinion. Its a slight emphasis on hitting, but you're forced to draft for holds to compensate.
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it should be the same set up as last year. just for consistency's sake. i won't play in a league with holds, that's for sure.
yes, i'm a fantasy sports elitist.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
it should be the same set up as last year. just for consistency's sake. i won't play in a league with holds, that's for sure.
yes, i'm a fantasy sports elitist.
I have no idea how last year's league was set up, as I wasn't involved in it.
And what's the problem with holds? You're forced to draft at least one player to fill the role.
What do you suggest in lieu of that for pitching? I hate K/BB or K/9, and other stats like "Innings Pitched" or crap like that is bogus.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
it should be the same set up as last year. just for consistency's sake. i won't play in a league with holds, that's for sure.
yes, i'm a fantasy sports elitist.
Pussy.
Can anybody find last years thread? I wasn't able to find it.
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classic 5x5 always gets my vote, although obp instead of average would be fine w/me, too. other than that, it just gets confusing. but whatever, i've got a title to defend, so as long as smacke is in, i'm in.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
classic 5x5 always gets my vote, although obp instead of average would be fine w/me, too. other than that, it just gets confusing. but whatever, i've got a title to defend, so as long as smacke is in, i'm in.
What are the classic 5x5 and 4x4 categories again? I've been playing custom leagues so long that I don't remember.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
but whatever, i've got a title to defend, so as long as smacke is in, i'm in.
How's your hockey team doing?
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this is what i'm doing for the point-only league i'm running this year ... i still need to tweak some of the pitching stats, but i really like the direction it's going in:
Stat Modifiers:
R (5), RBI (5), SH (2), SF (2), SB (5), CS (-3), BB (3), IBB (1), HBP (3), K (-1), GIDP (-3), TB (5)
W (40), L (-10), SVOP (-40), SV (80), TBF (3), ER (-4), BB (-1), HBP (-1), K (1), WP (-1), BLK (-1), SB (-1), GIDP (1), HLD (40), TB (-1)
i may have an opening or two, i'll post on here if i do
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hows your hockey team doing smackie?
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
this is what i'm doing for the point-only league i'm running this year ... i still need to tweak some of the pitching stats, but i really like the direction it's going in:
Stat Modifiers:
R (5), RBI (5), SH (2), SF (2), SB (5), CS (-3), BB (3), IBB (1), HBP (3), K (-1), GIDP (-3), TB (5)
W (40), L (-10), SVOP (-40), SV (80), TBF (3), ER (-4), BB (-1), HBP (-1), K (1), WP (-1), BLK (-1), SB (-1), GIDP (1), HLD (40), TB (-1)
i may have an opening or two, i'll post on here if i do
Jesus Christ, this is way over my head.
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btw, i will play some fantasy baseball...i have never played, but what the hell.
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Originally posted by Thom Foolerie:
hows your hockey team doing smackie?
This is between me and Booker.
I think I'm starting to get the hang of it, though. I've closed 500 points in a month. Too bad I have 700 more to go...
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Originally posted by callat703:
Jesus Christ, this is way over my head.
it's the most accurate way to determine a player's "value" to his team that i could come up with using the yahoo statistics ... i'd really like to include defensive stats, but most of the major stats (fielding %, errors, etc) are just not indicative of overall defensive play, and it's kind of impossible for yahoo to use STATS Inc.'s "Zone Rating" system
i miss baseball!!!1!1!
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Originally posted by callat703:
Max Games Played: 170
Max Innings Pitched: 1300
I would prefer this to be 162 (just to please the baseball gods).
And 1500 Innings if we're doing W, S and H. 1300 is fine if we're not doing holds.
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by callat703:
Jesus Christ, this is way over my head.
it's the most accurate way to determine a player's "value" to his team that i could come up with using the yahoo statistics ... i'd really like to include defensive stats, but most of the major stats (fielding %, errors, etc) are just not indicative of overall defensive play, and it's kind of impossible for yahoo to use STATS Inc.'s "Zone Rating" system
i miss baseball!!!1!1! [/b]
Uh...right. But I have no idea what any of the numbers and half of the abbreviations that you put up there even mean.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Can anybody find last years thread? I wasn't able to find it.
http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009189 (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009189)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by callat703:
Max Games Played: 170
Max Innings Pitched: 1300
I would prefer this to be 162 (just to please the baseball gods).
And 1500 Innings if we're doing W, S and H. 1300 is fine if we're not doing holds. [/b]
1500 seems a bit excessive. I'd split the difference and go to 1400?
And 162 is fine. I'm not sure why it went to 170; I think that was a mistake.
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009189 (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009189)
Thanks. I defer all my thoughts on scoring to this previous thread. I would also add holds.
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So after reviewing last year's categories.
If we'd like to even out the categories between pitchers and hitters, I'd opt for 6x6:
AVG, HR, RBI, R, BB, SB
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W, K, SV, HLDS, ERA, WHIP
Thoughts?
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yes, my hockey team sucks. i keep forgetting it exists, and i'm sorry about that, because i know there's nothing worse than a lazy owner, even one at the bottom of the standings. i can assure you i'd be kicking all of your asses in fantasy basketball, which is my best fantasy sport.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
yes, my hockey team sucks. i keep forgetting it exists, and i'm sorry about that, because i know there's nothing worse than a lazy owner
same here
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Originally posted by callat703:
Thoughts?
OPS! although i didnt win this argument last year, and i doubt people have come around to the dark side in just one year
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
OPS! although i didnt win this argument last year, and i doubt people have come around to the dark side in just one year
I've meant to apologize to you for that for a while now. My solid argument about Barry Bonds ruining OPS for everybody never came to fruition.
Anyhow, I think I'd rather see AVG and either OPS or OBP instead of BB. I like to reward those that get HBP too.
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by callat703:
Thoughts?
OPS! although i didnt win this argument last year, and i doubt people have come around to the dark side in just one year [/b]
How about AVG and OPS instead of BB?
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Let me know about OPS versus BB.
Rather than the Private Message thing, here is league info:
Yahoo Fantasy Baseball
League ID#: 64815
League Name: 930 Club Fantasy Baseball
Password: backbar
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I've meant to apologize to you for that for a while now. My solid argument about Barry Bonds ruining OPS for everybody never came to fruition.
oh well, not your fault he didn't play ... but i'm still not convinced the argument holds water even if he was in
Originally posted by vansmack:
Anyhow, I think I'd rather see AVG and either OPS or OBP instead of BB. I like to reward those that get HBP too.
explain again why on earth we'd want to have AVG and OBP?
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by callat703:
Max Games Played: 170
Max Innings Pitched: 1300
I would prefer this to be 162 (just to please the baseball gods).
And 1500 Innings if we're doing W, S and H. 1300 is fine if we're not doing holds. [/b]
the more innings, the better to me. i ran out of IP last year in one league i was in. it kind of sucked. there were like 2-3 weeks left in the season too!
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by vansmack:
I've meant to apologize to you for that for a while now. My solid argument about Barry Bonds ruining OPS for everybody never came to fruition.
oh well, not your fault he didn't play ... but i'm still not convinced the argument holds water even if he was in
Originally posted by vansmack:
Anyhow, I think I'd rather see AVG and either OPS or OBP instead of BB. I like to reward those that get HBP too.
explain again why on earth we'd want to have AVG and OBP? [/b]
Not OBP; I'm talking about OPS - combining slugging and on base percentage.
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
explain again why on earth we'd want to have AVG and OBP?
I can't really. I just didn't like BB as it's own category.
I'm impartial to OBP or OPS, but considering AVG makes up over 90% of one category and HR plus AVG makes up a good percentage of the other, in a HR only league, I really don't think one is that much better than the other.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
explain again why on earth we'd want to have AVG and OBP?
I can't really. I just didn't like BB as it's own category.
I'm impartial to OBP or OPS, but considering AVG makes up over 90% of one category and HR plus AVG makes up a good percentage of the other, in a HR only league, I really don't think one is that much better than the other. [/b]
I personally like BB as an individual category when coupled with AVG. I recognize it may not be as great as OPS or OBP in valuing players. But it allows you to draft a bit more strategically. Gives certain players some more value, and trims value from others.
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Well, I'll jump in again this year - should be able to improve on last year's mediocre showing...
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League is almost full! Need maybe one more. Come on guys and gals.
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it is full now
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draft is this saturday .... i also have open spots in my league:
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Hey everybody,
I'm running another Fantasy Baseball league this year. Just like last year, we're doing a "Fantasy Points" league instead of a traditional roto-style league (get ranked 1-10 in every category) or a head-to-head league. If you weren't in our league last year, it's very similar to Fantasy Football, your player gets (or loses) points for everything that he does. After using a variation of this system last year, I think we've worked out the kinks and this should work really well.
For all of you who are afraid of the new system and are a bit wary of signing up, don't be. It actually works out to be very close to how players would be ranked if you pick up a FB magazine or draft kit online. Only big difference is that holds are counted, so set-up men like Tom Gordon have more value. When you sign up for the league, click on "Players" and take a look at last year's stats, sorted by "Fantasy Points", which will show you how things will sort out.
Buy-in will be $25: 1st place gets 50%, 2nd gets 30%, 3rd gets 20%.
The draft will be two Saturdays from now, April 1 at 12:30pm EST.
Oh, and please feel free to forward this to anyone you think would be interested.
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/register/joinprivateleague (http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/register/joinprivateleague)
League ID: 49645
Password: sorianosucks
Here's the nitty-gritty details. Trust me, I've played around with it a lot, and it all works out. Email me with any questions.
Season Type: Full
Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Sat Apr 1 12:30pm EST [ Add to My Calendar ]
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Points Only
Player Universe: All baseball
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 0
Trade End Date: August 20, 2006
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Trade Review: Commissioner
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 162
Max Innings Pitched: 1800
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 2
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, OF, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL
Stat Modifiers:
Hitting
TB (5)
R (5)
RBI (5)
SH (2)
SF (2)
SB (5)
CS (-3)
BB (3)
IBB (1)
HBP (3)
K (-1)
GIDP (-3)
Pitching
TBF (3)
K (1)
GIDP (1)
ER (-4)
TB (-1)
BB (-1)
HBP (-1)
WP (-1)
BLK (-1)
SB (-1)
SV (90)
SVOP (-40)
W (45)
L (-15)
HLD (40)
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Here it is.
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Last year was my worst year ever, I started of 27-8 and ended up like 54-90. Horrible, horrible, horrible.