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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: xcanuck on August 31, 2004, 09:51:00 am
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Any hockey fans on the Forum? The Finns thrashed the Czechs yesterday (bit of a surprise IMHO) but the real action starts tonite when Canada plays the US.
Being the impartial observer that I am, I'm predicting the Canadians will go the entire way, though the Swedes are scaring me out of my jockstrap. Give the Slovaks the nod as the tournament dark horse.
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It'll be a tough night for me. I'd love to cheer strongly against the Mounties, but they've got Lemieux. Being from Pittsburgh, that'd be borderline treason. So...I'll just watch casually. Hoping Mario scores 4 goals & the US wins 5-4. :D
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
Swedes are scaring me out of my jockstrap.
Why are you wearing a jockstrap in front of the computer?
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I am a hockey maniac, so i can comment.
The Swedes do look like they are totally going to win. But, of course, I wont count out my canadian bretheren!
we'll see tonight when we WHUP the doodles on ESPN!!! :)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I am a hockey maniac, so i can comment.
The Swedes do look like they are totally going to win. But, of course, I wont count out my canadian bretheren!
we'll see tonight when we WHUP the doodles on ESPN!!! :)
How's this tourney work sonick? Is it pool play - like the olympics - or single elim?
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Originally posted by grotty:
How's this tourney work sonick? Is it pool play - like the olympics - or single elim?
well, sorta like the olympics, but since there are only 8 teams, everyone advances out of pool play, making it much less important.
looks like there are 2 divisions of 4. everyone plays everyone else in thier division, then they get seeded into the quarterfinals, semifinals and finals.
Canada, USA, Slovakia, and Russia are in one
Sweden, Finland, Germany and Czech are another.
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<img src="http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/finland/Finland-WP-a.jpg" alt=" - " />
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ohhhh, and it looks like i may be scoring tickets to the semifinals on 9/11. (yes, I am booknig a plane flight for 9/11..ooooh arent i a rebel!)
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
<img src="http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/finland/Finland-WP-a.jpg" alt=" - " />
It's a little known fact that the Fins were actually the first to land and walk upon the moon. Much like an experienced mountain climber - they were able to accomplish this feat without the aid of supplemental oxygen.
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<img src="http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1076153785486.jpeg" alt=" - " />
Janne Niinimaa: (http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/english/article/1076153792701) Headbanger
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I am a hockey maniac, so i can comment.
The Swedes do look like they are totally going to win. But, of course, I wont count out my canadian bretheren!
we'll see tonight when we WHUP the doodles on ESPN!!! :)
How can the Swedes win? Its Canada's national pastime, they can't lose.
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ask Cuba
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I'd love to say that hockey is our game but the Russians proved us wrong in 1972. The US are actually the defending champions of the World Cup but given that Canada won the last Olympic Gold, that sorta gives us bragging rights.
The only reason I count out the Swedes is Tommy Salo. His incredible blunder against Belarus in 2002 is going to weigh heavily on him.
Can't wait to see the Canada/Russia game in Toronto. We'll bring back the old '72 chant: "Da! Da! Ca-na-da! Nyet! Nyet! So-vi-et!". (give us a break - it's the best we could do being tanked on Labatts 50).
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Fun Fact o' The Day:
Lacrosse is actually the national sport of Canada.
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
How can the Swedes win? Its Canada's national pastime, they can't lose.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Fun Fact o' The Day:
Lacrosse is actually the national sport of Canada.
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
How can the Swedes win? Its Canada's national pastime, they can't lose.
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correct. you are SO smart ggw.
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Sitting here with my arm broken in three places just above the elbow from a particularly violent (not cheap though) incident on ice. As I was spinnging to the ice after it happened, my arm upper are was at my side and my elbow as in the center of my chest. OUCH! Anywho, cherish what we have now. May be a while before we see the game again. Ihope these guys (both sides) get their shit in a bag and have everythign ironed out soon. One last thing. Hockey is an American sport, 4 of the orginal 6 were US teams! :)
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
Hockey is an American sport, 4 of the orginal 6 were US teams! :)
i think you stole our sport buddy. you guys and all your money. besides, the "NHL" was your league in the first place, we have/had plenty before that and a lot of other hockey besides that.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Fun Fact o' The Day:
Lacrosse is actually the national sport of Canada.
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
How can the Swedes win? Its Canada's national pastime, they can't lose.
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I just go by what Sonick says on other threads. :D
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I just go by what Sonick says on other threads. :D
it is our pasttime but not officially our sport.
uh, what is America's national sport? Wal-Mart shopping?
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I just go by what Sonick says on other threads. :D
it is our pasttime but not officially our sport.
uh, what is America's national sport? Wal-Mart shopping? [/b]
Bull-riding.
<img src="http://espn.go.com/winnercomm/outdoors/ProRodeo/i/P2_pr_Event_Desc_BR_Yates.jpg" alt=" - " />
Putting up with this national-sport bullshit from you damn foreigners!
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I just go by what Sonick says on other threads. :D
it is our pasttime but not officially our sport.
uh, what is America's national sport? Wal-Mart shopping? [/b]
Could be Target shopping, they are pretty damn packed on Sundays.
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Sweden is unloading Germany (as expected) 5-2 in the 3rd period.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I just go by what Sonick says on other threads. :D
it is our pasttime but not officially our sport.
uh, what is America's national sport? Wal-Mart shopping? [/b]
Could be Target shopping, they are pretty damn packed on Sundays. [/b]
Yeah, what is it with Sundays at Target!?
Is it supposed to be some sort of religious experience or something?
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Yeah, what is it with Sundays at Target!?
Is it supposed to be some sort of religious experience or something? [/QB]
Well if it is, I'll have to make sure I go on other days of the week from now on. Funny thing is, they have about 20 cashiers there and the lines are still ten miles long.
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Canada 2
USA 1
thanks for all the power plays!
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Canada 2
USA 1
thanks for all the power plays!
I was wondering when that was coming. Good game. As for the power plays, you have to admit the one at the end of the second period was just wrong. It should have been even strength. Brodeur kept whoever it was in the crease and that dude was pushed into him. It shouldnt have been interference. But the ref's missed it and life goes on. Both teams played great D, Canada's was just a tad bit better that night.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Canada 2
USA 1
thanks for all the power plays!
Maybe the doodles should've had girls playing for them going by the Olympic's performances.
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
Maybe the doodles should've had girls playing for them going by the Olympic's performances. [/QB]
So I'm guessing you would be named captain of the team and even start.
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Canada 2
USA 1
thanks for all the power plays!
Maybe the doodles should've had girls playing for them going by the Olympic's performances. [/b]
hhahahahha
hoohohohohoho
woooo,
another zinger....
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Whoa!!! Canada was just a BIT better? If it wasn't for Robert Esche, the score would have been 10-0 after the first. ESPN had the scoring opportunities at 18-0 before the US scored their first goal. I think the shots on goal at that point were 22-6. Esche was brilliant.
Canada plays Slovakia tonite. The Slovaks have the best D-man in the tournament (Zdeno Charra) and a potent offence with Gaborik, Hossa, and Satan (no, not the 666 guy ;=)). I think the Slovaks will take bronze in the tournament (Swedes silver and Canada gold).
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Canada - gold
Sweden - silver
USA - bronze
i dont like the Slovaks.
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well, just want everyone to know that Canada is rolling, the US is sqeaking by, and somehow Sweden lost big to the Czechs.
semifinals this weekend, final game Monday night.
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Enjoy it now, as the NHL lockout seems inevitable.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Enjoy it now, as the NHL lockout seems inevitable.
thank you very much mr. negativity. :(
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
well, just want everyone to know that Canada is rolling, the US is sqeaking by, and somehow Sweden lost big to the Czechs.
semifinals this weekend, final game Monday night.
Actually, the finals are on Tuesday. How much sense does THAT make? But we'll be at the ACC, proudly wearing the red and white, regardless. Thank god my company has an office in Toronto that I can work from!
You HAD to love last night's game! Watching Iginla, Sakic, and Lemieux together is a total treat. Lemieux still has it.
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
Actually, the finals are on Tuesday. How much sense does THAT make? But we'll be at the ACC, proudly wearing the red and white, regardless.
I am going on Saturday. tickets for the Championship game were ludicrous.
even my plane ticket was $300. !!!!!
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<img src="http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030430/sp5.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Ahhh, back from a nice relaxing trip to the Great White North!!! very happy Canada's in the Finals, but really wanted a Canada/USA rematch.
not to be though.
good to be back in the land of fear though, didja miss me?
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Ahhh, back from a nice relaxing trip to the Great White North!!! very happy Canada's in the Finals, but really wanted a Canada/USA rematch.
not to be though.
good to be back in the land of fear though, didja miss me?
Quite a long time since you posted this and no responses yet, guess that must answer your question. ;)
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Quite a long time since you posted this and no responses yet, guess that must answer your question. ;)
DIE.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/worldcup04/columns/story?id=1878032 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/worldcup04/columns/story?id=1878032)
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CA-NA-DA!! CA-NA-DA!!
Ahhhh...it wasn't the best game our boys have played but it was enough. We were right behind and looking down on the net when Vinny scored the O/T winner. What a shot! I was screaming myself hoarse.
Tonite is for all the marbles. Scalpers are already getting $2000 for a single lower bowl ticket. It's going to be a goaltending battle to be sure, and Marty looks OK....but I think people are underestimating the importance of the blueline game. Look to Canada for the win thanks to superior defensive work.
This is going to be the last pro-quality hockey for a very long time.....
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Ahhh, back from a nice relaxing trip to the Great White North!!! very happy Canada's in the Finals, but really wanted a Canada/USA rematch.
not to be though.
good to be back in the land of fear though, didja miss me?
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It's football/baseball season....who cares. :D
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
It's football/baseball season....who cares. :D
Kansas City 17
Yankees 8
you still want baseball season?
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
It's football/baseball season....who cares. :D
Hoo Yah!!!!
Baseball - there's a sport for ya. More like a game...like snooker or hopscotch. Where's the physical contact? Where's the stamina? These wimps go on the DL for something like a hangnail.
Football - a bunch of fat guys in spandex, bending over, patting each other on the ass, and piling on each other. :=) Where else can you get paid millions of dollars to do nothing other than be insanely fat?
Give me sports like hockey and soccer. At least those sports require extremely high levels of physical conditioning. They're graceful while being pretty brutal at the same time.
Ahhh...I'm just joking - sorta ;) I actually like football. But baseball.... honestly....what a bore.
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
I actually like football. But baseball.... honestly....what a bore. [/QB]
I like Hockey too, I was just tryin' to get on Sonick's nerves.
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I don't like Cricket... no, no... I love it.
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Well...to bring this thread to it's inevitable conclusion...Canada squeeked by Finland 3-2.
We were at the game and it was pure bedlam once the game ended, though the fans were mighty quiet throughout the game. It couldve had something to do with the horribly quality of play. Even with elite players, the trap is here to stay.
Yonge St and downtown in general was controlled chaos. People were waving flags and cheering in the streets. I haven't seen a party like that in Toronto since the first time the Jays won the World Series.
And now....the NHL is dead for at least this season. The WCH was a hell of a way to end pro hockey.
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
And now....the NHL is dead for at least this season. The WCH was a hell of a way to end pro hockey. [/QB]
Yeah, It's bad enough summer is over and winter is coming, now we have no hockey. How boring is that gonna be with just basketball season? Now the Maple Leafs just got a year older and nothing to show for it. Looks like they will have to be like the Cap's and start using their AHL players and starting over.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Yeah, It's bad enough summer is over and winter is coming, now we have no hockey. How boring is that gonna be with just basketball season? Now the Maple Leafs just got a year older and nothing to show for it. Looks like they will have to be like the Cap's and start using their AHL players and starting over. [/QB]
You said it. The Leafs are going to have to go back to being the Loafs. Or The Least. Whatever...
At least the Caps will be enjoyable to watch as they rebuild. We saw the Russia/Slovakia game in Toronto and Ovechkin was REALLY impressive. The kids has some totally sick moves. He deked some of the veterans out of their skates.
I guess I should just join a third rec hockey team so that I get my fill...
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
Baseball - there's a sport for ya. More like a game...like snooker or hopscotch. Where's the physical contact? Where's the stamina? These wimps go on the DL for something like a hangnail.
Football - a bunch of fat guys in spandex, bending over, patting each other on the ass, and piling on each other. :=) Where else can you get paid millions of dollars to do nothing other than be insanely fat?
Give me sports like hockey and soccer. At least those sports require extremely high levels of physical conditioning. They're graceful while being pretty brutal at the same time.
Ahhh...I'm just joking - sorta ;) I actually like football. But baseball.... honestly....what a bore.
Of course, at least there will be a season in those other "games" you were talking about:
LOCKOUT BEGINS THURSDAY
Wednesday, September 15, 2004
Little chance season opens Oct. 13
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Associated Press
NEW YORK -- The National Hockey League will lock out its players Thursday, starting a work stoppage that threatens to keep the sport off the ice for the entire 2004-05 season.
The long-expected decision was confirmed by NHL owners Wednesday following a meeting in New York. Management is demanding cost certainty, which players say would be tantamount to salary cap.
Even before the announcement, teams already had given commissioner Gary Bettman authority to cancel the season.
The sides have not met since a bargaining session last Thursday ended with the parties far apart, and there appears to be almost no chance the season will start as scheduled on Oct. 13.
"The present system doesn't work for us," said Jim Rutherford, the president and general manager of the Carolina Hurricanes. "We need a new system. We're all frustrated by it."
Owners have contributed $300 million to a league work-stoppage fund to help get them through a lockout, and the union has retained licensing money to help its members.
Players vow to resist a salary cap and, with the positions entrenched, a long stoppage is likely, one that could wipe out the Stanley Cup final for the first time since 1919, when the series between Montreal and Seattle was stopped after five games due a Spanish influenza epidemic.
"It is a sad day for all of us," Montreal owner George Gillett said. "We're trying to do this to make sure there is competitive balance for the Montreal Canadiens."
The 30 teams -- 24 in the United States and six in Canada -- had been set to start opening training camps on Thursday, the day after the expiration of the current labor contract, first agreed to in 1995 and extended two years later through Sept. 15, 2004.
Some players are expected to sign with European leagues, and others could join a six-team, four-on-four circuit called the Original Stars Hockey League, which is set to start play Friday in Barrie, Ontario. Others could go to a revived World Hockey Association, which plans to open Oct. 29 with eight teams playing 76 games apiece.
The work stoppage is the first for a North American major league since the 1997-98 NBA lockout canceled 464 games, cutting each club's regular-season schedule from 82 games to 50.
It is the third stoppage for the NHL following a 10-day strike in 1992 that caused the postponement of 30 games and a 103-day lockout in 1994-95 that eliminated 468 games, cutting each team's regular-season schedule from 84 games to 48. That lockout ended on Jan. 11, five days before the deadline set by Bettman to scuttle the season.
Baseball has had eight work stoppages, the last running for 7½ months in 1994-95. It caused the cancellation of 921 regular-season games over two years and wiped out the World Series for the first time since 1904. While the NFL has had four strikes, including two during the regular season, the sport has enjoyed labor peace since 1987.
NHL management claims it needs changes in the labor contract because teams are losing money, $273 million in 2002-03 and $224 million last season, according to the league.
The NHL's average salary has risen from $733,000 at the time of the last lockout to $1,830,126 last season, according to the NHL Players' Association. While NHL revenue rose from $732 million in 1993-94 to $1.996 billion in 2002-03, the league says that player costs have increased from 57 percent of revenue to 75 percent over that period, figures the union disputes.
Unlike the other major sports, the NHL's revenue from broadcasting is relatively small, $449 million from national and local contracts and new media in 2002-03, according to the league. The five games of the Stanley Cup finals on ABC averaged just a 2.6 rating last spring and the two on ESPN a 1.2 cable rating, according to Nielsen Media Research. This year's Super Bowl had a 41.3 rating on CBS, while last year's World Series averaged a 12.8 on Fox and this year's NBA Finals an 11.5 on ABC.
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I read that earlier today, and thought.
sure, everybody is making a big deal about all of this, but really, it happens every so often to every sport almost.
so i will sit back, rake in my sportsbook winning for college football, and wait for an agreement to come.
hopefully the red sox will keep me watching deep into October. :)
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xcanuck will let you take him to a Leafs game (http://www.artofthemix.org/FindAMix/getcontents.asp?strMixID=73147) if you get him drunk. But no funny-business afterwards!
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
sure, everybody is making a big deal about all of this, but really, it happens every so often to every sport almost.
It took baseball years to recover from its lockout, and they already had a huge following.
Hockey is still in its growing stages in the majority of the US - this is a really bad time for a lock out for a sport that was close to equaling the NBA in market share. You can forget about that now. As much as Canadians hate what the US has done to hockey, it needs the US dollars to survive.