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Title: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Bags on March 03, 2004, 01:44:00 am
Okay, I think I recall that the Bigger Lovers may be back at some point, but that's up in the air.  But, just wondering if there's a landslide of interest in the Undertones show.
 
 Also, anyone think Undertones will sell out?
 
 Then Sunday is Metropolitan & the Rosebuds at the Warehouse....
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: MiloGTC on March 03, 2004, 07:45:00 am
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Originally posted by Bags:
  Okay, I think I recall that the Bigger Lovers may be back at some point, but that's up in the air.  But, just wondering if there's a landslide of interest in the Undertones show.
 
 Also, anyone think Undertones will sell out?
 
 Then Sunday is Metropolitan & the Rosebuds at the Warehouse....
The Undertones will probably not be back. The Bigger Lovers probably will. QED.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 03, 2004, 08:35:00 am
As much as I like the Undertones, without Feagal a bit of the magic is going to missing.  With that said I'm in for the Bigger Lovers who haven't been around these parts in at least a year.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 03, 2004, 10:26:00 am
Bigger Lovers are first band on a three band night. What do you reckon? Maybe a 30 minute set? I'd see them if they were headlining, or supporting someone good. Don't think I'd go to this show though. Note: The Pernice Brothers/Bigger Lovers show at Ottobar has been taken off the schedule.
 
    Never heard of the Undertones.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: brennser on March 03, 2004, 10:56:00 am
I will be at The Undertones - even sans Fergal it should be a good show and some of the new stuff is very good
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: edbert on March 03, 2004, 11:33:00 am
My Undertones anecdote: last year I was walking in London and came upon a huge St Pat's street festival happening on the South Bank.  I noticed as I was crossing from there back over to Westminster that on a big stage they had live acts playing, folkish stuff.  A few minutes later as I was crossing St James park,  I could just barely hear in the distance that The Undertones were playing!   I started walking back but they only played that one tune (Get Over You) and were finished before I even got to the river.  Sounded great though
 
 And my Bigger Lovers anecdote:  they played one Sat afternoon at that indie CD store in Clarendon, for about 5 people one dog and the store staff. Someone in the band said it was a bigger audience than at their Velvet Lounge show the previous night!  I wanted to see what all the fuss was about after reading the glowing write-ups in in the City Paper, and left thinking that the writer who keeps building them up must be a friend of the band
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: mankie on March 03, 2004, 12:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
  I will be at The Undertones - even sans Fergal it should be a good show and some of the new stuff is very good
How can it be The Undertones without Fergal? There's nobody could sound like him, and his voice is so unique that it IS The Undertones...no?
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: brennser on March 03, 2004, 12:17:00 pm
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There's nobody could sound like him, and his voice is so unique that it IS The Undertones...no?  
well theres only one way to find out and for me the undertones were and are much more about great guitar pop songs than fergals voice
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: mankie on March 03, 2004, 12:20:00 pm
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There's nobody could sound like him, and his voice is so unique that it IS The Undertones...no?  
well theres only one way to find out and for me the undertones were and are much more about great guitar pop songs than fergals voice [/b]
I had to cut my comment short because I got paged...."I meant to add, if you're going for nostalga."
 
  I'm sure it will still be a good show by a band who play great pop-songs, but not The Undertones as we remember them.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: redsock on March 03, 2004, 12:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rutherford J. Balls:
 
    Never heard of the Undertones.
Really Rhett, you should read BigYawn more often.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: brennser on March 03, 2004, 12:42:00 pm
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I'm sure it will still be a good show by a band who play great pop-songs, but not The Undertones as we remember them.  
we're not going to agree on this mankie - is that the royal "we" you're using there?
 
 you don't want to go because you think its a cover band - I want to go because Fergal did nothing but sing AND they have a new album out with some damn good songs on them, easily as good as anything they've done
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: markie on March 03, 2004, 01:10:00 pm
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 easily as good as anything they've done [/b]
Which song is as good as teenage kicks?
 
 You over stated your case Brennser. The new album is OK, but it would be cool to hear some of those old hits live. There might not be another chance to. Its not like its an expensive show or anything, Mankie.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: mankie on March 03, 2004, 01:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
   
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I'm sure it will still be a good show by a band who play great pop-songs, but not The Undertones as we remember them.  
we're not going to agree on this mankie - is that the royal "we" you're using there?
 
 you don't want to go because you think its a cover band - I want to go because Fergal did nothing but sing AND they have a new album out with some damn good songs on them, easily as good as anything they've done [/b]
I suppose I'm comparing it to the time I went to see The Specials at the 930 a few years ago. Terry Hall wasn't with them, and although it was The Specials...it really wasn't if you know what I mean.
 
 Maybe a better comparison would be The Pogues. Shane MacGowan is really The Pogues, but even without him they are still a great, great band called The Pogues.
 
 Can we agree on that and move on?
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: mankie on March 03, 2004, 01:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
   
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Originally posted by brennser:
 
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 easily as good as anything they've done [/b]
Which song is as good as teenage kicks?
 
 You over stated your case Brennser. The new album is OK, but it would be cool to hear some of those old hits live. There might not be another chance to. Its not like its an expensive show or anything, Mankie. [/b]
Oh, I'm not being my usual stubborn old git and boycotting them at all, it's just mid-week shows don't really do it for me unless it was a Smiths reunion or something, and Wednesday is a night I can't miss doing something else.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: brennser on March 03, 2004, 01:16:00 pm
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Maybe a better comparison would be The Pogues. Shane MacGowan is really The Pogues, but even without him they are still a great, great band called The Pogues.
 
 Can we agree on that and move on?  
ok   :)
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: jpbelmondo on March 03, 2004, 01:17:00 pm
If you go to the Undertones website (www.theundertones.com) there's a link to an archived Dutch radio program with a recent performance.  Yes, it's not the same without Feargal, but it sounds really good none the less.  The new DVD (the John Peel documentary, plus their videos) is quite good too.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: brennser on March 03, 2004, 01:18:00 pm
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Oh, I'm not being my usual stubborn old git and boycotting them at all, it's just mid-week shows don't really do it for me unless it was a Smiths reunion or something, and Wednesday is a night I can't miss doing something else.  
its this sat mankie! do what I'm doing and get the baby to bed and then head out around 11   :D
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: brennser on March 03, 2004, 01:20:00 pm
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Which song is as good as teenage kicks?
   
maybe I overstated a little, but given that teenage kicks is one of the best songs of all time its a pretty high standard to live up to
 
 and I really think the first three songs and the last 3 songs on the new album are well worth going to hear live - Thrill Me is a fantastic song
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 03, 2004, 01:21:00 pm
Mankie is probably more likely to want to see 4 Way Steet, with the Bigger Lovers opening?
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: mankie on March 03, 2004, 01:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
   
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Oh, I'm not being my usual stubborn old git and boycotting them at all, it's just mid-week shows don't really do it for me unless it was a Smiths reunion or something, and Wednesday is a night I can't miss doing something else.  
its this sat mankie! do what I'm doing and get the baby to bed and then head out around 11    :D  [/b]
Saturday is definately out....it's the start of the F1 season and our company always has a massive party for it....attendance is compulsory for all sales staff so we can rub shoulders with the rich bastards of the metro-DC region. EUGH! Imagine me (for those who've met me) in that environment.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: mankie on March 03, 2004, 01:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rutherford J. Balls:
  Mankie is probably more likely to want to see 4 Way Steet, with the Bigger Lovers opening?
Oh you're just pissed off because you're not music savvy as me and never heard of The Undertones.  ;)  
 
 4 way Street!!!!  :eek:  Really?
 
 I make no apologies for my comment about them, now I know it's not some tribute band....I've heard quite a few of their songs on XM and they're all very good.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: thirsty moore on March 03, 2004, 01:41:00 pm
My sympathies.  Be sure to compliment the wealthy elite on their fine sport coats, khakis and boat shoes.
 
 
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Originally posted by mankie:
 attendance is compulsory for all sales staff so we can rub shoulders with the rich bastards of the metro-DC region. EUGH! Imagine me (for those who've met me) in that environment.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: mankie on March 03, 2004, 01:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
  My sympathies.  Be sure to compliment the wealthy elite on their fine sport coats, khakis and boat shoes.
 
   
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 attendance is compulsory for all sales staff so we can rub shoulders with the rich bastards of the metro-DC region. EUGH! Imagine me (for those who've met me) in that environment.
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There will be more red worn that evening than at Old Trafford on any given Saturday.
 
 The ladies will be wearing their  body-hugging red Ferrari tops to show off their new boob-job, with platinum prancing horse earings, and the men will have their red Ferrari pit-crew polo shirts with collars turned up no doubt...with their Girard-Perregaux Ferrari F1, special edition watch to make it all come together. (markie would fit right in)
 
 It will be fun...so much fun.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: markie on March 03, 2004, 01:53:00 pm
Mankie, I am envious......
 
 I bet you have a great time. So what time is qualifying local time on Friday? And race on Saturday?
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: mankie on March 03, 2004, 02:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
  Mankie, I am envious......
 
 I bet you have a great time. So what time is qualifying local time on Friday? And race on Saturday?
Qualifying is Friday night and the race starts 9:30pm EST. on Saturday.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: markie on March 03, 2004, 03:20:00 pm
Thanks Mankie, looks like it will be a struggle for mme to get to see the undertones. I guess if I hop in a cab at the end of the last lap..... I might just do that.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Bags on March 03, 2004, 11:28:00 pm
Bigger Lovers are the openers for a 3-band set?  Hmmmm, that's an important bit of info.  Thanks, Rhett.  But the ottobar show is cancelled.  All this back and forth.....
 
 Markie, probably good you can't make it to Undertones, as I'll probably be there!
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: markie on March 03, 2004, 11:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bags:
 
 
 Markie, probably good you can't make it to Undertones, as I'll probably be there!
SNIFF SNIFF,
 
 were you thinking of drinking the bar dry?
 
 Not washing your pits?
 
 Asking were Fergal is?
 
 Asking which ones are twins?
 
 
 all of the above?
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Bags on March 04, 2004, 09:43:00 pm
All of the above, AND wearing my Barry shirt.
 
 You know, I think this is all really masking a fondness for me that is scaring you.....
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: markie on March 04, 2004, 09:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bags:
 this is all really masking a fondness for me that is scaring you.....
Ding ding DING.
 
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Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: brennser on March 08, 2004, 10:49:00 am
well I went and I thought The Undertones were great - most fun I've had at a gig in ages - never having seen the original incarnation live I have nothing to compare it to but they all looked like they were having a blast up there
 
 funny crowd, aging punks, young wanna be punks and everyone in between - there was a kid with this big studded leather jacket on and every time someone bumped into him in the pit you could see the confusion on his face "hey, he just bumped into me and I'm a punk godammit - should I deck him?"
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Bags on March 08, 2004, 11:09:00 am
hhhmmmm, I missed both shows on Saturday.  I was all tuckered out and just didn't have the drive to motivate myself.  Glad the Undertones was fun, Brennser...
 
 Saw Metropolitan and the Rosebuds last night; really liked the Rosebuds.  And the Warehouse is a cool space.  No smoking!!  (Thank god I quite last summer...)
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: markie on March 08, 2004, 11:24:00 am
The undertones were fun. I scoff at reunion shows, but still keep going to see them. It is even more derisable when the band is lacking their frontman. I mean would you really want to see the doors without Jim?
 
 But if you squinted your eyes, had an extra pint, were open to having a good time. Then there was certainly plenty of enjoyment to be had.
 
 They played two of my favourite songs, teenage kicks and my perfect cousin, and it was a treat to hear them live. Something I thought I would never do.
 
 And Brennser cannot finish his pints.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Bags on March 08, 2004, 11:26:00 am
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
 And Brennser cannot finish his pints.
That IS a problem....
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 08, 2004, 11:26:00 am
I am quite certain I wouldn't want to see the Doors WITH Jim.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: brennser on March 08, 2004, 11:29:00 am
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And Brennser cannot finish his pints.  
you bastard!!   :mad:   you promised you wouldn't tell anyone
 
 actually I had forgotten I didn't finish my last pint - I was so proud of myself that I was still awake at 3am
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Bags on March 08, 2004, 11:32:00 am
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Originally posted by Rutherford J. Balls:
  I am quite certain I wouldn't want to see the Doors WITH Jim.
Oh my god, we agree.  This and Pernice Brothers...what the hell is going on.    :p
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: markie on March 08, 2004, 11:38:00 am
Lets see,
 
 Yep Brennser left at least half a pint behind, after cajoling me to have one last  drink. We were some of the last people in the bar though....
 
 
 And I thought all of you would have love to see Jim get his meaty manhood out on stage? Why are Americans so down on the doors?
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Bags on March 08, 2004, 11:38:00 am
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And Brennser cannot finish his pints.  
you bastard!!    :mad:    you promised you wouldn't tell anyone
 [/b]
Hey, you forgot that Markie's the board member you don't want to go to a show with -- all that heckling and head bobbing and superior carriage...
 
 Plus, now we know he tattles.  
 
 And wasn't he just having mucous problems?    <img src="http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/sneeze2.gif" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 08, 2004, 11:48:00 am
Next thing you know, you'll say you're listening to a Merle Haggard cd, as I am now.
 
 
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Originally posted by Bags:
   
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Originally posted by Rutherford J. Balls:
  I am quite certain I wouldn't want to see the Doors WITH Jim.
Oh my god, we agree.  This and Pernice Brothers...what the hell is going on.     :p  [/b]
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Bags on March 08, 2004, 11:54:00 am
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Originally posted by Rutherford J. Balls:
  Next thing you know, you'll say you're listening to a Merle Haggard cd, as I am now.
 
THAT will never happen.  Whew, we're safe.
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: eltee on March 08, 2004, 02:26:00 pm
I caught the Bigger Lovers/Endochine/4 Way Street show at Iota. Bigger Lovers sounded great. However, they lost me on the last three songs. They blended together. 4 Way, first time seeing them. They do sound like the Eagles. Endochine ended up going on last. They have great energy, vocals, and stage presence. They also played at Black Cat last Wednesday where there was a Grohl sighting..
Title: Re: Undertones v Bigger Lovers
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 08, 2004, 02:29:00 pm
So I guess the bottom line is Mankie likes a band thqt sounds like the Eagles...
 
 
 
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  I caught the Bigger Lovers/Endochine/4 Way Street show at Iota. Bigger Lovers sounded great. However, they lost me on the last three songs. They blended together. 4 Way, first time seeing them. They do sound like the Eagles. Endochine ended up going on last. They have great energy, vocals, and stage presence. They also played at Black Cat last Wednesday where there was a Grohl sighting..