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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 09, 2003, 09:51:00 am
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Has anybody heard anything off of this album yet?
Josh Rouse's 1972 gives away the game in the first line of the first song, the exquisite title track, when he name-checks Carole King. The record is going back in time and it is going to have fun doing it. Rouse's records have always been highly literate and highly musical, but they have never been fun like this, and make no mistake, 1972 is a fun record. Rouse sounds as loose as a goose and the songs reflect that. Not always lyrically, as some of the songs touch on such non-fun subjects as loneliness, repression, and bitterness, but definitely musically. To that end, Brad Jones' production is spot-on perfect â?? not an instrument is out of place and the whole record has a jaunty bounce and a lush dreaminess. 1972 is coated with sonic goodness: fluttering strings, piping horns, cotton-candy sweet flutes, funky percussion, handclaps, and great backing vocals. Rouse and Jones find inspiration in all the right places: in the laid-back groove of Al Green, the California haze of Fleetwood Mac, the dreamy melancholia of Nick Drake, the sexy groove of Marvin Gaye, and the wordy lilt of Jackson Browne or James Taylor. The songs are the strongest batch Rouse has written yet. "Love Vibration" is the hit single; it has everything a hit single needs: musical hooks, lyrical hooks, vocal hooks, a smoldering sax solo (optional), and a groovy video. Other songs that are sure to be in heavy rotation are "James," a funky ballad that shows off Rouse's wonderful falsetto (as does "Comeback [Light Therapy]") and takes time for that most elusive creature, a good flute solo; "Under Your Charms," a sultry, sensual ballad that takes a potentially squirm-inducing subject and actually does it right, Marvin-style; and "Rise," a beautifully orchestrated epic that ends the record on a perfect note. 1972 should vault Rouse to the forefront of intelligent pop alongside kindred spirits like Joe Pernice and Kurt Wagner (of Lambchop). If you say you've heard a better adult pop record this year, you are lying. [Initial pressings of the album came complete with a bonus DVD featuring the video for "Love Vibration" and a short documentary about Josh Rouse and his music. The first 100 copies even came with autographed liner notes.]
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I saw the video, it was awful, I liked Dressed Up Like Nebraska but have not purchased any of the albums since.
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I just listened to clips on Amazon, and they seemed to suck.
why does 98% of all music released today suck? who told some of these people that they were talented? is it their schoolteachers who told them how brilliant they were rather than being honest with them?
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I like all of his discs...although Dressed Up Like Nebraska was the only disc that I immediately fell in love with.
I bought 1972 a week ago and it has really grown on me. I think it is a perfect album for a Sunday afternoon.
I saw that Today's WP Express compared 1972 to Wilco's Summerteeth...horrible comparison. Although I think both are great.
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he's much better live. go see him in october at the cat.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I just listened to clips on Amazon, and they seemed to suck.
why does 98% of all music released today suck? who told some of these people that they were talented? is it their schoolteachers who told them how brilliant they were rather than being honest with them?
98% of the music has always sucked, it is just now that more people can DIY you see and are offered more of the crap that before was impossible to find.
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[qb] you see and are offered more of the crap that before was impossible to find. [/b]
alternatively, music is fracturing into thousands of sub-genres. Its not like the olden days of teddys and rockers or punks, where a musical style would unite everyone.
Nowadays youf does not seem to be as clearly defined by the music it listens too. Musics importance is being erroded by other media. Possibly because music is not very dangerous or cutting edge anymore. If your parents like it too, well then what is the point?
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Do you really still believe this cliched question?
My mom has never had that much of an interest in music, but my dad actually had GOOD taste in music. I'm glad that he passed some of his tastes on to me.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Sir HC:
[qb] Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[qb] If your parents like it too, well then what is the point? [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Do you really still believe this cliched question?
In a naive way, yes. not that it affected my life my dad loved elvis and my mum the beatles. I am still in favour of my dad.
but back in their day rock really was music your parents wouldnt like, thats when it was most interesting and had an air of danger....
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
but back in their day rock really was music your parents wouldnt like, thats when it was most interesting and had an air of danger....
Yeah, my mom really hated Bon Jovi's Slippery When Wet, as much as I tried to convince them otherwise and my Dad hates Dave Matthews, Dave Matthews is dangerous
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
why does 98% of all music released today suck? who told some of these people that they were talented? is it their schoolteachers who told them how brilliant they were rather than being honest with them?
Rhett, you're beginning to sound more like me everyday my man....just thought you'd better hear it from me rather than your friends. ;)
On the same theme, what's going to happen to sports when these kids that now have to play games were there's no loser because they want "positive reinforcement and encouragement" grow up? IMHO it's much more important to learn how to be a good loser than it is to learn how to be a winner. Maybe we're seeing the beginnings of it with steroid use and cheating etc.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
but back in their day rock really was music your parents wouldnt like, thats when it was most interesting and had an air of danger....
Yeah, my mom really hated Bon Jovi's Slippery When Wet, as much as I tried to convince them otherwise and my Dad hates Dave Matthews, Dave Matthews is dangerous [/b]
I bet they both liked Hootie......
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Dave Matthews is dangerous [/QB]
Are you trying to say Elvis and his music didnt bring about change in the culture?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I bet they both liked Hootie......
only the early stuff, you know, before they sold out
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Are you trying to say Elvis and his music didnt bring about change in the culture?
Are you saying Bon Jovi did?
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Are you saying Bon Jovi did? [/b][/QUOTE]
no he is a formulaic popster.
Do you always answer a question with a question, in order to mask any real opinion, you may, or may not, have?
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But if you look hard enough, there is that 2% of new music that is released that is actually good. And as usual, little of it gets played on mainstream radio, so most people aren't going to hear it.
I would tend to agree with you on your point regarding children and sports.
. Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
why does 98% of all music released today suck? who told some of these people that they were talented? is it their schoolteachers who told them how brilliant they were rather than being honest with them?
Rhett, you're beginning to sound more like me everyday my man....just thought you'd better hear it from me rather than your friends. ;)
On the same theme, what's going to happen to sports when these kids that now have to play games were there's no loser because they want "positive reinforcement and encouragement" grow up? IMHO it's much more important to learn how to be a good loser than it is to learn how to be a winner. Maybe we're seeing the beginnings of it with steroid use and cheating etc. [/b]
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I've never felt the need for my music to have an "air of danger". Thats sounds like another cliche from some unauthorized biography of some moron punk musician.
I actually like my parents, and thought it was cool when our tastes overlapped. I hope our future kid will have enough taste to avoid "dangerous" bands like Good Charlotte or Michelle Branch that his/her parents will detest.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Do you really still believe this cliched question?
In a naive way, yes. not that it affected my life my dad loved elvis and my mum the beatles. I am still in favour of my dad.
but back in their day rock really was music your parents wouldnt like, thats when it was most interesting and had an air of danger.... [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I hope our future kid will have enough taste to avoid "dangerous" bands like Good Charlotte or Michelle Branch that his/her parents will detest.
Rhett Jr will be down with fiddy cent. Yo.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Do you always answer a question with a question, in order to mask any real opinion, you may, or may not, have?
No I don't, but your question made no sense to me, when did I ever say Elvis did not change anything. You said rock music was dangerous when parents did not like it, I was saying that is not true.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I actually like my parents, and thought it was cool when our tastes overlapped.
snap.
dont most people rebel against their parents, at least at some point. Isn't that to do with defining your own personality?
My parents were pretty liberal, I had little reason to rebel, then I left home at 18 anyway.
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Does anyone else now picture Anton's father as Colm Meaney in The Commitments?
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I dunno...as a teacher and as a former student, I saw plenty of students who were happy to be carbon copies of their parents. For some it was a good thing, for others it wasn't.
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that's my plan. sometimes live makes the cds much more listenable after.
Originally posted by chknfngrs:
he's much better live. go see him in october at the cat.
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leona naess is co headlining so im going :p