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Pixies To Reunite For Tour In April 2004; New Album Possible
[Posted Wednesday, September 10th, 2003 02:30:00 Pitchfork Central Time]
John L. Ferrer and Will Bryant report:
There's that rare time when a sarcastic, jaded music news site has to report without any sarcasm or irony. Short of the Velvet Underground, there's no band more beloved, more important, more cited as an influence in indie rock than the Pixies. Whether you're strictly a Doolittle man (surely one of the finest damn rock albums ever) or an obsessive who can name every Trompe le Monde b-side, the Pixies' contributions to the alternative rock canon are sacred texts, the alpha cell of a paisley-flecked v23 flowchart that, down various impeccably typeset branches, might lead to Nirvana, to the Breeders, to Throwing Muses, Guided By Voices, Modest Mouse, Trail of Dead, or Enon.
Sadly, most of these revelations weren't made until after the band's prime. Since their reportedly messy and bloody demise in 1993, fans have signed on by the dozens-- based partially on the recommendation of Kurt Cobain, and partially by their desire to find something truly exuberant, legitimate, funny and weird in their music. Anyone born in the '80s might surely have at some point sighed and abandoned all hope of seeing the Pixies on stage at all. In a sense, the idea of a Pixies reunion has almost become a joke, the indie-kid version of "Yeah, when pigs fly." So when the report came in July that all four original members (that's Black Francis, Kim Deal, David Lovering, and Joey Santiago) have been secretly practicing together every couple of blue moons since the breakup, there was the first glimmer of hope.
Now that the heavyhandedness is past, here comes the point. The glimmer is now a full-blown supernova. It's happening. In April. No dates yet, not even any quotes from the group's principals-- just a band spokesperson's promise to MTV, who broke the story. The source, who remains unnamed in MTV's story, also claims that if all goes well a studio album will follow.
The Pixies. Are back. Together. Music is saved. Lovers of rock, unite and cheer. This is going to truly own.
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Who cares.
Why don't we bring Nolan Ryan, Joe Montana, and Magic Johnson back while we're at it.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Who cares.
I do
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Any of you clowns who are excited by this should NEVER again be allowed to give Mankie shit about his music taste being stuck in the past.
Frank Black's albums have only been decent, and Kim Deal's have pretty much sucked. What makes you think that somehow their "wonderful" chemistry is going to allow them to squeeze out a good record.
Has beens.
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LOL...I'll be the first in line to admit that I care...this was the band that changed the way I listened to music. It was through the Pixies that I discovered so much other good music. I know it's a bold statement, but the Pixies totally changed my life and without them I was able to survive high school and my adolescence. Some people say that Kiss saved their lives...for me, it was the Pixies. I'm not going to hold my breath to see this happen, but it would be nice to see.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Any of you clowns who are excited by this should NEVER again be allowed to give Mankie shit about his music taste being stuck in the past.
Frank Black's albums have only been decent, and Kim Deal's have pretty much sucked. What makes you think that somehow their "wonderful" chemistry is going to allow them to squeeze out a good record.
Has beens.
uh, I am more excited about them touring, I have seen Frank Black and the Breeders put on great shows in the last year or so, and when Frank Black plays Pixies songs they are still great, so I have no reason to doubt their live show will be nothing but great, as for the album, I have my doubts, but don't assume they can't do it
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Any of you clowns who are excited by this should NEVER again be allowed to give Mankie shit about his music taste being stuck in the past.
Frank Black's albums have only been decent, and Kim Deal's have pretty much sucked. What makes you think that somehow their "wonderful" chemistry is going to allow them to squeeze out a good record.
Has beens.
This from a guy who still regularly wears a "Death To The Pixies" t-shirt?
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err. that should be WITH and not without, LOL. :) And for the record...my first concert was the Pixies. I wouldn't call them has-beens...that would imply they were actually popular in the first place, and the Pixies never really did achieve commercial success or platinum sales. That's probably one of the reasons why I liked them so much...they were too abstract to be commerical like Jane's Addiction or Nirvana.
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Good for The Pixies.
Maybe this time people will actually show up for their gigs in America.
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I am much more excited by the Mavericks reunion tour. Though not excited enough to pay $35 to see them at the Birchmere, or drive to Towson and pay $25 at the REcher.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Who cares.
Why don't we bring Nolan Ryan, Joe Montana, and Magic Johnson back while we're at it.
Great point Rhett, its funny how everyone on this board makes fun of bands that come back and even play into their forties, but when its one of their own beloved bands its the greatest idea in the world, like they were the first to think of it......hypocrites.
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Originally posted by Guiny:
Great point Rhett, its funny how everyone on this board makes fun of bands that come back and even play into their forties, but when its one of their own beloved bands its the greatest idea in the world, like they were the first to think of it......hypocrites.
Who does that Guiny? Isn't there another thread about artists who are still good in their 40s? Didn't people on this board go see X, Sex Pistols, Television, Mission of Burma? Quit trying to defend you going to see Soft Cell ;) .
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anybody so cynical as to believe that the rumoured renion is just a ploy to drum up interest in Frank Blacks twangy new album?
I mean, who actually said they were reforming?
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
anybody so cynical as to believe that the rumoured renion is just a ploy to drum up interest in Frank Blacks twangy new album?
I doubt it, he released two albums last year as well and there was no publicity
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
anybody so cynical as to believe that the rumoured renion is just a ploy to drum up interest in Frank Blacks twangy new album?
I mean, who actually said they were reforming?
Frank Blacks new album sucks eggs. and i dont think they should put out a new record...tour, definitely. I mean, if the Sex Pistols can pull it off (which apparently you guys think they did) then the Pixies definitely can!!! It would be a great show hearing the old classics of a band "just" before my time...
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Originally posted by jadetree:
I doubt it, he released two albums last year as well and there was no publicity [/QB][/QUOTE]
perhaps they are learning from their mistakes?
An un-named band spokesperson? Would that be the same as Franks spokesperson?
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The sound clips on Amazon sound pretty good...
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
anybody so cynical as to believe that the rumoured renion is just a ploy to drum up interest in Frank Blacks twangy new album?
I mean, who actually said they were reforming?
Frank Blacks new album sucks eggs. and i dont think they should put out a new record...tour, definitely. I mean, if the Sex Pistols can pull it off (which apparently you guys think they did) then the Pixies definitely can!!! It would be a great show hearing the old classics of a band "just" before my time... [/b]
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(in best Cartman voice) "sweeeet"
Pixies reunion tour wouldn't be life altering like seeing them in 1989, but it'd be cool as hell.
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Originally posted by Mobius:
(in best Cartman voice) "sweeeet"
Pixies reunion tour wouldn't be life altering like seeing them in 1989, but it'd be cool as hell.
Please....how did it alter your life in 1989?
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I saw the Pixies live in London in 1989, and it didn't alter my life. Great show, but concerts generally aren't life-altering.
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man, i saw BOC back in 78. . .that knarly eye-ball with the lasers shooting out of it. . .got me right in the eye, and i haven't been the same since. BOC!!!!
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QUOTE] Quit trying to defend you going to see Soft Cell :)
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Never saw them, so my own life wasn't altered. It almost too obvious to argue, but seeing a certain band at the right time can definitely be life altering. It provides "inspirado" as I believe Tenacious D would say, and make you want to play guitar, major in english, get a life, hit on indie chicks, or whatever.
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Fucking great news.
By the way, Frank Black put a couple of very decent albums in the early nineties. As for Kim Deal, her sin was to release a highly commercial album in the early nineties, but isn't "Pod" one of the best rock records ever? What about the Amps, that was a great record.
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I saw the Pixies in 1989.
I have never played guitar or any other "rock" instrument.
I still have no life.
I majored in math and then education and now information systems.
I married a Jamiroqaui fan.
I'm not sure that seeing the Pixies pushed me in any of those directions, but as GGW mentioned, I srill have the cool t-shirt, which probably cost me about 8 bucks. The concert ticket and backstage pass were free.
Originally posted by Mobius:
Never saw them, so my own life wasn't altered. It almost too obvious to argue, but seeing a certain band at the right time can definitely be life altering. It provides "inspirado" as I believe Tenacious D would say, and make you want to play guitar, major in english, get a life, hit on indie chicks, or whatever.
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I'm excited to to hear they are getting back together, being a big Frank Black and the Catholics fan. I never got to see the Pixies when they were together. I think Frank's albums, both solo and with the Catholics are great, certainly better the crap that is churned out on the radio every day. The new album in particular is a good example of FB's songwriting talents. And Rhett, why do you insist on insulting people whose music tastes differ from yours? Does anyone who posts on this topic who is excited about a reunion deserve to be called a clown? Why do the regulars on this board continue to put up with such a narrow-minded jerk?
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Originally posted by dlcjr1775:
Rhett, why do you insist on insulting people whose music tastes differ from yours?
Why do the regulars on this board continue to put up with such a narrow-minded jerk?
Pot- Kettle, "You are black!"
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Originally posted by dlcjr1775:
And Rhett, why do you insist on insulting people whose music tastes differ from yours? Does anyone who posts on this topic who is excited about a reunion deserve to be called a clown? Why do the regulars on this board continue to put up with such a narrow-minded jerk?
We ceased taking Rhett seriously years ago.
Some of the best shows I've seen this year were by "old" guys or "reunion" tours.
Paul Weller
Mission of Burma
Rollins / Black Flag
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perhaps a more productive appraoch to Rhett would be to ask him about that great night in 1989 and how he got backstage passes, how much blow he did, then who he blew?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Some of the best shows I've seen this year were by "old" guys or "reunion" tours.
Paul Weller
Mission of Burma
Rollins / Black Flag
might have been enjoyable shows, but you have to admit there is something derisable about these tours. All of these acts did their best work years or decades ago. So that means you are succumbing to nostalgia.
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My friend and I happened to be walking by the venue, and we stopped to have a listen from the outside. A cute little purple haired British girl asked us if we needed tickets, and we replied that we didn't have any $$ on us. She said, "No, they're free, and I have a backstage pass if you want it.."
Those British women, they never could resist me...
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
perhaps a more productive appraoch to Rhett would be to ask him about that great night in 1989 and how he got backstage passes, how much blow he did, then who he blew?
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
So that means you are succumbing to nostalgia.
And that is bad because.....?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
So that means you are succumbing to nostalgia.
And that is bad because.....? [/b]
because those artistes were only culturally relevant at their peak, which was many moons ago.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
So that means you are succumbing to nostalgia.
And that is bad because.....? [/b]
because those artistes were only culturally relevant at their peak, which was many moons ago. [/b]
I don't buy that.
If somebody made music 15-20 years ago that is either directly influencing today's artists, or influenced a generation of artists who are influencing a new generation, then they are still culturally relevant.
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The Beach Boys influenced a lot of great bands, and I think they were perhaps the most experimental and musically interesting of all commercially successful bands.
But I won't be seeing any of their reunion shows, even if Brian Wilson joins up.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
even if Brian Wilson joins up.
Didn't he turn into a retard or something?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The Beach Boys influenced a lot of great bands, and I think they were perhaps the most experimental and musically interesting of all commercially successful bands.
But I won't be seeing any of their reunion shows, even if Brian Wilson joins up.
I would agree. Because I think they would put on a poor musical performance, and because they would play a lot of the later Kokomo crap. And it would be overpriced.
Plus, wasn't much of the Beach Boys greatness in their production skills?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[qb] Plus, wasn't much of the Beach Boys greatness in their production skills? [/b]
you wouls think so, but I have a live album of theirs and it is surprisingly good. If you read reviews, they were rated, live as well.
I think Brian Wilson is close to being ok these days. They did pet sounds at the royal albert hall a couple of years ago didnt they and wolftrap this summer?
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No, Brian Wilson did Pet Sounds with an orchestra.
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Is John Stamos still playing drums for the Beach Boys? He's pretty hot.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
No, Brian Wilson did Pet Sounds with an orchestra.
It was billed as the beach boys. What is the point of the beach boys without Brian. Its like the doors without Jim of INXS without Michael.
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All Beach Boys songs sound the same.......Except Kokoma of course.
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I saw the Pixies in 1990 and it changed my life...I was 15, it was my first concert, and when I went to my high school the next day on cloud 9, I got incessant shit from my classmates for liking the band with "the pussy name". You know what? I enjoyed being different then, and I enjoy being different now. And you know what most of those people were listening to? Vanilla Ice, Motley Crue, and 2 Live Crew. I don't care if going to see the Pixies is a trip down memory lane...they wrote great songs that still stand up today, and those songs are still better than most of the stuff these new "indie" bands are putting out.
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Did Brian Wilson do all of the lead vocals? I was always under the impression that Mike Love did a lot of the lead vocals.
And harmonies played a much greater role in the Beach Boys songs, there were no harmony vox in inxs or doors.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
No, Brian Wilson did Pet Sounds with an orchestra.
It was billed as the beach boys. What is the point of the beach boys without Brian. Its like the doors without Jim of INXS without Michael. [/b]
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This Pixies story is one of the many reasons why I love Pitchfork: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/03-09/10.shtml (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/03-09/10.shtml)
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
This Pixies story is one of the many reasons why I love Pitchfork: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/03-09/10.shtml (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/03-09/10.shtml)
you mean the one that started this thread?
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Wasn't that an MTV article that broke the story first?
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Sorry Jadetree...I first saw it on MTV and didn't realize that you had posted from Pitchfork...I just assumed it was the MTV article you had posted. :-)
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That is very cool, bunnyman, and I understand that sentiment very well.
I've never gotten the Pixies, though. I think I missed them by, literally, a couple years. Same with Pavement and Sebadoh -- all bands my sister, four years younger, and her friends were way into.
I met a guy at a bar and told him exactly how old I thought he was based on his affection for those bands and a couple others. I was right!
Originally posted by bunnyman:
LOL...I'll be the first in line to admit that I care...this was the band that changed the way I listened to music. It was through the Pixies that I discovered so much other good music. I know it's a bold statement, but the Pixies totally changed my life and without them I was able to survive high school and my adolescence. Some people say that Kiss saved their lives...for me, it was the Pixies. I'm not going to hold my breath to see this happen, but it would be nice to see.
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But *I*still listen to their albums, so *I* still want to see them live as long as i think the show will be good. I don't give a shit if they're culturally relevant. No way in hell every band you go see is 'relevant.' You dig their music, and that's it.
Joe Jackson was awesome, and need I bring up Cheap Trick again? ;)
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
So that means you are succumbing to nostalgia.
And that is bad because.....? [/b]
because those artistes were only culturally relevant at their peak, which was many moons ago. [/b]
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Jesus Christ, I just dove into my Pixies catalog, and threw about 20 songs onto my jukebox, and HOLY SHIT, the PIxies are coming and I'm excited. :) :D :cool: