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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Brian_Wallace on October 18, 2007, 07:59:00 pm
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15 Most Ill-Advised Career Reinventions in Rock Music History (http://www.cracked.com/article_15622_15-most-ill-advised-career-reinventions-in-rock-music-history.html)
"While we won't know how the robots feel about the Pumpkins' work until long after Billy Corgan is dead, just about every human can agree it was awful." AMEN!
"Music From "The Elder", was so bad that the band didn't even go on tour to promote it. Let's take a second and consider that the boys who weren't above painting up their faces to look like stars and cats and wrote songs almost exclusively about partying, didn't want to go on tour with this album because it would have been too embarassing . "
"Somehow, inexplicably, Eddie Van Halen decided to take what was broke in the band and make it even more broken by singing lead vocals on one track, sending a message of, "Hey, it could be worse," to the many fans dissatisfied with Cherone's performance. "
"Their recording process reads like a "how to" guide for great bands who want to make sure they never sell another album.
Step One: Get rid of song writing partner and guitar visionary John Frusciante.
Step Two: Replace him with metal-inspired possible trannie, Dave Navarro.
Step Three: Press record. "
"U2 Takes a 12-Track-Long Shit"
I think Cracked.com's pretty funny. I also liked "Where aren't they now?: 5 Post- Star Wars careers more pathetic than Mark Hamill's" (similar to Peter Griffin's Han Solo introducing himself as "the only actor whose career isn't destroyed by this movie." in the Star Wars/Family Guy a couple weeks back) and "The 10 Most Asinine Movie Twist Endings."
Brian
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First of all Garth Brooks as Chris Gaines has to be #1. It has to. It was the most embarrassing, ill-conceived idea in music history. Even worse was his idea to host SNL w/ musical guest Chris Gaines. Garth never recovered.
U2 Pop is not that bad. In fact its got some great moments - the ending of Please and Wake Up Dead Man was really nice.
And Bowie should not be on that list. Was it really a reinvention? He was instrumental in developing electonic music w/ Eno, and in particular w/ the album Low. And I'm Afraid of Americans was an ok song.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
I think Cracked.com's pretty funny.
coming from someone who thinks the same of dane cook, i'll take that with an appropriately-sized grain of salt.
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I want a remote control waterfall like MC Hammer.
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Lou Reed and David Bowie? I think not.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Lou Reed and David Bowie? I think not.
I've never in my life felt compelled to put a "smiley" in any of these messages. After all, I'm not a ten year-old girl with stickers on my school notebook. But if I could roll my eyes...
I just don't GET IT! What IS IT with you people? If it's not treating old rockers with a reverence beholden to Allah or Jesus Christ it's lists! LISTS! Top Tens! Best of's! Rankings! My favorite album of the year! Best show I've seen in the last six months? Are you so anal retentive and dim that you can only deal with life when you know that "The Office" is your sixth favorite television show but "The Wire" just beats it out at No. 5?
Saying David Bowie is "legendary" or Lou Reed is "innovative" is like trying to preserve a Big Mac sandwich as if it's an antique. After only a few days it begins to smell.
Archibald MacLeish once said a poem "shouldn't mean but be." Doesn't ANYBODY here feel that way about music? That rock music shouldn't be revered and treated like Holy Script? No ONE in pop culture has their ass kissed more than useless idiots like Bruce Springsteen and John Lennon. Don't you ever get sick of it? Ever? Hearing the same classic rock/hits of the 90s over and over and over and over and over and over and over again? John Lennon was dead before most of you were born! Who CARES about John Lennon? He's got nothing to say about anything that's going on in my life.
I just thought on this message board, there would be ONE or TWO people who were as sick and disgusted by this cultural hegemony as I am. I guess not.
I grew up near a very large paper mill. There's an area where thousands of huge trees are brought in every day. Trees that have been "clear cut." I know you're all city folk but do you know what the concept of clear cutting is? From Wikipedia:
"Clearcutting or clearfelling is a Forestry/Logging practice in which all/most trees in an area are harvested, to facilitate the regrowth of a new stand."
It's been almost forty years since the Beatles broke up and we're STILL talking about them. Why hasn't clearcutting occured in rock n roll?
Brian
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We're all just bastards here trying to get you down. And we're winning :p
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Isn't Archibold MacLeish the real name of Mayor McCheese??
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
I'm not a ten year-old girl with stickers on my school notebook. But if I could roll my eyes...
:roll:
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Who CARES about John Lennon? He's got nothing to say about anything that's going on in my life.
That says more about the pathetic life you're leading than Lennon's relevance.
Yoko's bush > Britney's beaver
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So you grew up around the stench of pulp. That sucks man.
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
[QB]I grew up near a very large paper mill. [QB]
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So why are you spending so much time in a place you have such disdain for?
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
I just don't GET IT! What IS IT with you people? If it's not treating old rockers with a reverence beholden to Allah or Jesus Christ it's lists! LISTS! Top Tens! Best of's! Rankings! My favorite album of the year! Best show I've seen in the last six months? Are you so anal retentive and dim that you can only deal with life when you know that "The Office" is your sixth favorite television show but "The Wire" just beats it out at No. 5?
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Brian
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Old growth forests are needed for climate buffering, biodiversity protection, forest restoration seed stock and are vital to achieving global ecological sustainability. Clearcutting destroys all that. Just ask Al Gore.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Just ask Al Gore.
And threads like this are the EXACT reason he invented the Internet.
True story.
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Seriously, the whole searching the internet for articles, etc that support your claims, posting them and then getting indigent when instant support isn't offered up is tiresome... Been there done that on this board... If being run out of town on rail is your idea of a good time, we'd be happy to oblige..
FYI, I bought in my late 30s my one and only Beatles album..
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True story but unreadable sentence.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Just ask Al Gore.
And threads like this are the EXACT he invented the Internet.
True story. [/b]
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Brian, based on your whining and ranting I'd say you've got more sand in your vagina than just about anyone here.
:) :( :o :D ;) :p :eek:
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Originally posted by kosmo:
Seriously, the whole searching the internet for articles
Everybody knows the MacLeish quote. Or at least you should. Everyone here went to an expensive East Coast liberal arts school, didn't they? I wouldn't know. I went to a state school.
Originally posted by kosmo:
FYI, I bought in my late 30s my one and only Beatles album..
That's one too many. Why did you break such a perfect streak? You could have gone through your ENTIRE life without hearing "All You Need Is Love."
Brian
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Originally posted by kosmo:
Seriously, the whole searching the internet for articles, etc that support your claims, posting them and then getting indigent when instant support isn't offered up is tiresome... Been there done that on this board... If being run out of town on rail is your idea of a good time, we'd be happy to oblige..
FYI, I bought in my late 30s my one and only Beatles album..
Really? With your penchant for pop music, I'm really surprised by this.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by kosmo:
Seriously, the whole searching the internet for articles
Everybody knows the MacLeish quote. Or at least you should. Everyone here went to an expensive East Coast liberal arts school, didn't they? I wouldn't know. I went to a state school.
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Brian, I hate to tell you this, but the University of Phoenix online degree program doesn't count as "going to a state school."
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by kosmo:
Seriously, the whole searching the internet for articles
Everybody knows the MacLeish quote. Or at least you should. Everyone here went to an expensive East Coast liberal arts school, didn't they? I wouldn't know. I went to a state school.
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Brian, I hate to tell you this, but the University of Phoenix online degree program doesn't count as "going to a state school." [/b]
The e-presence of Mr. Walalce seems to take your posting to a whole different, snarkier, darker place & your politeness goes out the window.
I fuckin' like it. Carry on . . .
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
The e-presence of Mr. Walalce seems to take your posting to a whole different, snarkier, darker place & your politeness goes out the window.
I fuckin' like it. Carry on . . .
Ha! True enough. He's probably the one exception.
Director, sweetcell shared a rumor that you're headed to Vegoose and hanging with him. let's all put difference aside and drink to Daft Punk and Rage, no?
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Just never felt the need to the own the Beatles, until one of my favorite musicians told me, I must own "Rubber Soul". I'd heard their body of work plenty on the radio etc... Of course now thanks to Kosmette's CD collection I do have a set of Beatles albums to listen if I felt the need. But there are plenty of other albums to listen to and enjoy as well, either Beatles influenced or otherwise.
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
The e-presence of Mr. Walalce seems to take your posting to a whole different, snarkier, darker place & your politeness goes out the window.
I fuckin' like it. Carry on . . .
Ha! True enough. He's probably the one exception.
Director, sweetcell shared a rumor that you're headed to Vegoose and hanging with him. let's all put difference aside and drink to Daft Punk and Rage, no? [/b]
You're more than welcome to come chop it up with us. We just won't be playing any Radiohead* at the after party. :D
*well, maybe "Reckoner", "Jigsaw", & "Weird Fishes". Cause those joints are fuckin' bonkers.
;)
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
The e-presence of Mr. Walalce seems to take your posting to a whole different, snarkier, darker place & your politeness goes out the window.
I fuckin' like it. Carry on . . .
Ha! True enough. He's probably the one exception.
Director, sweetcell shared a rumor that you're headed to Vegoose and hanging with him. let's all put difference aside and drink to Daft Punk and Rage, no? [/b]
You're more than welcome to come chop it up with us. We just won't be playing any Radiohead* at the after party. :D
*well, maybe "Reckoner", "Jigsaw", & "Weird Fishes". Cause those joints are fuckin' bonkers.
;) [/b]
As long as you keep Sting out of the party as well, you've got a deal.
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
The e-presence of Mr. Walalce seems to take your posting to a whole different, snarkier, darker place & your politeness goes out the window.
I fuckin' like it. Carry on . . .
Ha! True enough. He's probably the one exception.
Director, sweetcell shared a rumor that you're headed to Vegoose and hanging with him. let's all put difference aside and drink to Daft Punk and Rage, no? [/b]
You're more than welcome to come chop it up with us. We just won't be playing any Radiohead* at the after party. :D
*well, maybe "Reckoner", "Jigsaw", & "Weird Fishes". Cause those joints are fuckin' bonkers.
:D
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Just for the record you specifically said Sting. You got a deal.
Any attempted revisions of this agreement will be seen as breach of e-contract. :D
I'll accept any Police recordings in which Sting is absent.
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by kosmo:
Seriously, the whole searching the internet for articles
Everybody knows the MacLeish quote. Or at least you should. Everyone here went to an expensive East Coast liberal arts school, didn't they? I wouldn't know. I went to a state school.
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Brian, I hate to tell you this, but the University of Phoenix online degree program doesn't count as "going to a state school." [/b]
I'm reminded of a quote from Courtney Love. During Lollapalooza â??95 (at which Hole and Pavement played) Ms. Love was impressed by Mr. Malkmus's skill and described him as "a genius, the only guy I know who could complete the New York Times crossword puzzle in a matter of minutes." So, the Lady Cobain challenged Malkmus to a daily New York Times crossword puzzle competition claiming:
"Hey, I got kicked out of a LOT of good schools."
Brian