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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: azaghal1981 on October 23, 2007, 09:17:00 am
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RIP to one of the greatest websites ever. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/7057812.stm)
I'm sure something else will eventually fill the gaping void but it'll be a while. :(
Huge pirate music site shut down
Man arrested in Middlesbrough raid
Police also raided the home of the IT worker's father
British and Dutch police have shut down a "widely-used" source of illegally-downloaded music.
A flat on Teesside and several properties in Amsterdam were raided as part of an Interpol investigation into the members-only website OiNK.
The UK-run site has leaked 60 major pre-release albums this year alone, said the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI).
A 24-year-old man from Middlesbrough was arrested on Tuesday morning.
'Extremely lucrative'
The IT worker was led from his home in the town's Grange Road and is being questioned on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud and infringement of copyright
law.
Within a few hours of a popular pre-release track being posted on the OiNK site, hundreds of copies can be found
IFPI spokesman
At the same time his employer - a large multi-national company - and his father's home were also raided.
A Cleveland Police spokesman said: "This extremely lucrative and creative scheme consisted of a private file-sharing website being set up. Membership was
by invitation only.
"The site allowed the uploading and downloading of pre-release music and media to thousands of members.
"Members paid 'donations' via debit or credit cards, ensuring their continued access to the site."
Users were only invited to join the site if they could prove that they had music to offer, according to an IFPI spokesman.
Unfinished versions
He said: "They were encouraged to distribute recordings in the torrent file format with other OiNK members, and have to keep posting such music to the site
to maintain their membership.
"Once an album had been posted on the OiNK website, the users that download that music then passed the content to other websites, forums and blogs, where
multiple copies were made.
"Within a few hours of a popular pre-release track being posted on the OiNK site, hundreds of copies can be found further down the illegal online supply
chain."
The site's servers, based in Amsterdam, were seized in a series of raids last week.
It follows a two-year investigation by music industry bodies the IFPI and the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).
Pre-release piracy is particularly damaging to sales as it leads to early mixes and unfinished versions of artists' recordings circulating on the internet
months ahead of the release.
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oops.
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:( worst news in a long time. I had a huge ratio on that site. sucks for everyone i just gave invites to, hope they raided it while they could.
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This site has been closed as a result of a criminal investigation by IFPI, BPI, Cleveland Police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch Police (FIOD ECD) into suspected illegal music distribution.
A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's users
www.oink.cd (http://www.oink.cd)
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They'll probably just go after the big suppliers (really really hoping so).
Good thing I never got around to throwing the new wolf eyes up there.
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you had to be delusional not to see this coming. unless the operator and servers are located somewhere like russia (or any other bastion of lawlessness), any centralized "resource" of this type is going to get its due, eventually. if you're going to swim in the file-swapping sea, do what you can to remain a small fish...
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Oh man, I loved Oink :-(
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Dang that sucks.
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What I always found odd about Oink, was that you basically signed up to be the first on your block to have something, but you traded your anonymity for having an album literally only hours before others. I always raised an eyebrow at those that thought it was a fair trade.
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torrents are a way too nerdrules method of stealing music
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
torrents are a way too nerdrules method of stealing music
Not a big fan of torrents. Some folks of mine have had their PCs exposed to nasty ass viruses as a result of them. I'm good w/ the whole torrent thing. . .
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Many torrent sites are indeed nasty little virus/spyware hives, but Oink had a self - policing community (boy that sure sounds strange now) that kept quality control at top knotch. It's the only torrent site I ever used really. Tried a few others but always went back to Oink.
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i wasnt talking about viruses anyway
its the ratios and invite rules that are zzzzz
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Oh yeah I knew it'd just be a matter of time. That doesn't mean I can't mourn its loss though. :(
Originally posted by sweetcell:
you had to be delusional not to see this coming. unless the operator and servers are located somewhere like russia (or any other bastion of lawlessness), any centralized "resource" of this type is going to get its due, eventually. if you're going to swim in the file-swapping sea, do what you can to remain a small fish...
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what to use instead of oink... (http://blog.brokep.com/2007/10/27/what-to-use-instead-of-oink-waffleswaffleswaffles/)
I need onto those shoegaze and twee ones!
The oink people got their domain back and it links to a google search for "what to use instead of oink".
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Trent Reznor on OiNK
What do you think about OiNK being shut down?
Trent: I'll admit I had an account there and frequented it quite often. At the end of the day, what made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store. Pretty much anything you could ever imagine, it was there, and it was there in the format you wanted. If OiNK cost anything, I would certainly have paid, but there isn't the equivalent of that in the retail space right now. iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc. Amazon has potential, but none of them get around the issue of pre-release leaks. And that's what's such a difficult puzzle at the moment. If your favorite band in the world has a leaked record out, do you listen to it or do you not listen to it? People on those boards, they're grateful for the person that uploaded it â?? they're the hero. They're not stealing it because they're going to make money off of it; they're stealing it because they love the band. I'm not saying that I think OiNK is morally correct, but I do know that it existed because it filled a void of what people want.
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Saw that a few days ago; meant to post it here. I wonder who he gave his invites to. Maybe he leaked a bunch of unreleased stuff in order to boost his ratio?
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Going a bit astray here but didn't want to create a new thread for this and thought that it somewhat fit the mindset regarding a musician's point of view.
Robert Fripp lays in to music industry rip-off merchants
(http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/30/fripp-lays-music-industry-rip)
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This is also a little off topic but Jaguar, do you have an account
here? (http://tracker.shoegaze.lt/)
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Nope. What is it?
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Torrent tracker dedicated to mostly shoegaze, drone, dream pop, noise pop, psych and other experimental music.