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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: allergic_to_you on November 09, 2004, 11:52:00 am
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Here are a few pictures from the My Chemical Romance/Story of the year tour.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/gerardandgabz.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/gerardandgabz.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/girlsoutside.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/girlsoutside.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/branandgabzhot.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/branandgabzhot.jpg)
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Are you sure this isn't the line waiting for the Manson show in two weeks?
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/branandgabzhot.jpg" alt=" - " />
just kidding!
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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let's not get started on the Manson show again... :D
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So I was wondering if the name "My Chemical Romance" means those guys love drugs or something. Cuz you know, drugs are like really really bad for you.
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Originally posted by MindCage:
Are you sure this isn't the line waiting for the Manson show in two weeks?
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/branandgabzhot.jpg" alt=" - " />
just kidding!
MindCage
I am going to that show though! lol.
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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Originally posted by Allergic:
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/girlsoutside.jpg" alt=" - " />
Who's the hottie on the left?
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Manson Nov 20th..be there! haha
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Originally posted by Allergic:
Manson Nov 20th..be there! haha
Sorry, but even you're not hot enough to get me to go to that trainwreck.
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haha uhh whatever
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R U, like, goths or something?
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Originally posted by Allergic:
haha uhh whatever
It's not you. It's me.
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Originally posted by MindCage:
Are you sure this isn't the line waiting for the Manson show in two weeks?
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/branandgabzhot.jpg" alt=" - " />
just kidding!
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
which one are you? the guy or the girl?
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
which one are you? the guy or the girl? [/b]
You mean that's not two girls?
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I'm the girl
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that's really uhh funny grow up
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
Originally posted by MindCage:
Are you sure this isn't the line waiting for the Manson show in two weeks?
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/branandgabzhot.jpg" alt=" - " />
just kidding!
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
which one are you? the guy or the girl? [/b]
are those two girls?
i hate my chemical romance and everything they stand for. mainly because of their fans.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Allergic:
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/haemoglobin9/girlsoutside.jpg" alt=" - " />
Who's the hottie on the left? [/b]
Probably the girlfriend of the guy in the middle.
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mmm hmm what do i stand for ? lol you all are so close minded and immature
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Originally posted by Allergic:
mmm hmm what do i stand for ? lol you all are so close minded and immature
get a fucking clue, you're not talking to the jocks at your high school who make fun of you for listening to alternative music.
i'm sorry that you've been brainwashed by emo-core trash. you'll wake up in a couple of years and come to your senses, but it will be a long, tough recovery.
stay strong.
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No, I'm not talking to a jock at a highschool I'm talking to some trailor trash idiot.
rofl
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by Allergic:
mmm hmm what do i stand for ? lol you all are so close minded and immature
get a fucking clue, you're not talking to the jocks at your high school who make fun of you for listening to alternative music.
i'm sorry that you've been brainwashed by emo-core trash. you'll wake up in a couple of years and come to your senses, but it will be a long, tough recovery.
stay strong. [/b]
wait. what do MCR and thier fans stand for?
they seem like a harmless band to me....what give? hoya?
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wait. what do MCR and thier fans stand for?
they seem like a harmless band to me....what give? hoya? [/QB][/QUOTE]
~You can't even post a picture anymore without some low life commenting on it saying something negative. People need to grow up & learn some respect...apparently they were raised to be classless & trashy.
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Originally posted by Allergic:
No, I'm not talking to a jock at a highschool I'm talking to some trailor trash idiot.
rofl
hey allergic, dont worry about him, he's a whiny cry baby....read his sob stop looking at my girlfriend (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=008518) story about last night
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hey allergic, dont worry about him, he's a whiny cry baby....read his sob stop looking at my girlfriend (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=008518) story about last night [/QB][/QUOTE]
rofl........ no comment.. except...umm yeah pussy!
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by Allergic:
mmm hmm what do i stand for ? lol you all are so close minded and immature
get a fucking clue, you're not talking to the jocks at your high school who make fun of you for listening to alternative music.
i'm sorry that you've been brainwashed by emo-core trash. you'll wake up in a couple of years and come to your senses, but it will be a long, tough recovery.
stay strong. [/b]
wait. what do MCR and thier fans stand for?
they seem like a harmless band to me....what give? hoya? [/b]
by far, my biggest musical pet peeve is emo-core and the clones who follow it. the fact that it's taken over modern rock radio only fuels my fire.
a close second are people who are obsessed with Rent and Grease.
but then again, I'm a cynical misanthrope who loves to stereotype and categorize. My hero is Robert Lanham (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452285623/qid=1100103982/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-1226156-6324051?v=glance&s=books).
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Actually MCR is the only band that I listen to that is somewhat hard core emo. As for you stereotyping people.......I'm sure I could say a lot worse about you.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
but then again, I'm a cynical misanthrope who loves to stereotype and categorize.
you really sound like every bit of a jerk as the people you are whining about in the other thread thats all.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
but then again, I'm a cynical misanthrope who loves to stereotype and categorize.
you really sound like every bit of a jerk as the people you are whining about in the other thread thats all. [/b]
a jerk, yes. a douchebag, no.
very critical distinction there.
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hahaha exactly.
well..
i love the comment he made
"I can't do anything without my home boys around"
what a fucking pussy
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Originally posted by Allergic:
hahaha exactly.
well..
i love the comment he made
"I can't do anything without my home boys around"
what a fucking pussy
it was a choice between standing up for myself and getting in a fight with two guys who are bigger than me, or respecting a bar that I really like and go to often by letting them handle the situation.
or i could have just said nothing and walked away, which would have been the real pussy choice.
ps: I'm not OOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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Yeah I guess that's the difference between my b/f and you..he would have actually done something. ROFL. I'd stop and look at yourself before you go around judging people.
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Originally posted by Allergic:
Yeah I guess that's the difference between my b/f and you..he would have actually done something. ROFL. I'd stop and look at yourself before you go around judging people.
i'm sure your boyfriend is revered by the people who run his favorite bars.
i, on the other hand, respect DC9.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
by far, my biggest musical pet peeve is emo-core and the clones who follow it. the fact that it's taken over modern rock radio only fuels my fire.
why do you even care? i mean really, dont you have your own life to worry about?
and the people at the interpol show last night...looked like clones too, just so you know.
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You know you might not be such a bad guy if you wouldn't be so disrespectful to females. Apparently a girl has never punched you in the face. haha
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
a close second are people who are obsessed with Rent and Grease.
Grease is the word.
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hahaha
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
by far, my biggest musical pet peeve is emo-core and the clones who follow it. the fact that it's taken over modern rock radio only fuels my fire.
why do you even care? i mean really, dont you have your own life to worry about?
and the people at the interpol show last night...looked like clones too, just so you know. [/b]
Again, I'm a misanthrope and I love to observe social groups and patterns. You never people watch on the metro or think about why there are thousands of receptionists just like yours who forward along horribly unfunny emails to everyone in the office?
Do I have my own life to worry about? Sure, but I don't live in a fucking bubble.
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god, i've never heard someone that can ramble on and on about nothing.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Grease is the word. [/b]
Grease is the way we are feeling.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
My hero is Robert Lanham (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452285623/qid=1100103982/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-1226156-6324051?v=glance&s=books).
The Hipster Handbook was grrrrreat! I think you would be interested in Fussell's CLASS (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671792253?v=glance). Has anyone here read it, BTW?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
You never people watch on the metro or think about why there are thousands of receptionists just like yours who forward along horribly unfunny emails to everyone in the office?
of course, i'm just not a dick about it. and i quit whining a while back.
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i think we should be happy that people like Allergic like bands like My Chemical Romance.
i mean, if everyone liked GOOD bands like we do, then Interpol would be playing RFK Stadium or something, and nobody wants that shit.
i mean, then you would have to find another band that no one has heard of...which is easy, but then you'd have to find a GOOD band that no ones heard of....then hope that no one found out, but they would, then you'd be fucked again.
what am i talking about?
all i'm sayin is Allergic, go on with your bad self and your chemical romance (i used to have one of those!) and i'll rock out to my Dan Fogelberg or whatever.
at least shes not going around posting about how she hates hipsters or indie rock or something.
man am i feeling feisty today.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
You never people watch on the metro or think about why there are thousands of receptionists just like yours who forward along horribly unfunny emails to everyone in the office?
of course, i'm just not a dick about it. and i quit whining a while back. [/b]
touche.
i'm still a dick about it, and i still whine. to each to his own.
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Sonick's like the modern day, online, indie rock Robin Hood.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i think we should be happy that people like Allergic like bands like My Chemical Romance.
i mean, if everyone liked GOOD bands like we do, then Interpol would be playing RFK Stadium or something, and nobody wants that shit.
i mean, then you would have to find another band that no one has heard of...which is easy, but then you'd have to find a GOOD band that no ones heard of....then hope that no one found out, but they would, then you'd be fucked again.
what am i talking about?
all i'm sayin is Allergic, go on with your bad self and your chemical romance (i used to have one of those!) and i'll rock out to my Dan Fogelberg or whatever.
at least shes not going around posting about how she hates hipsters or indie rock or something.
man am i feeling feisty today.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
touche.
i dont think so.
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
Sonick's like the modern day, online, indie rock Robin Hood.
<img src="http://www.lorellin.demon.co.uk/dcj/nye-robin-hood.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by marquee smith:
The Hipster Handbook was grrrrreat! I think you would be interested in Fussell's CLASS (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671792253?v=glance). Has anyone here read it, BTW?
I haven't read it, but I've read Wartime and am fond of Fussell's writing. Is it worth checking out?
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Originally posted by marquee smith:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
My hero is Robert Lanham (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452285623/qid=1100103982/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-1226156-6324051?v=glance&s=books).
The Hipster Handbook was grrrrreat! I think you would be interested in Fussell's CLASS (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671792253?v=glance). Has anyone here read it, BTW? [/b]
looks like a great book, just put it on my wish-list ... thanks for the headsup...
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Originally posted by dyssocial:
I haven't read it, but I've read Wartime and am fond of Fussell's writing. Is it worth checking out?
Is it worth checking out???
It's the phreakin' Bible, pal. Read it!
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i hate my chemical romance and everything they stand for. mainly because of their fans.
you hate a band that you've never listened to for reasons totally beyond their control, and hate everything they stand for without being willing or able to state what exactly that is.
makes perfect sense.
as evidenced by your posts on the other thread, there were, to use your word, douchebags and a fight at the interpol show. there were no fights and no drama at the story of the year/mcr show. based on that limited information (about as much information as you use to judge mcr and their fans, if not more), i'd wager that most people would say that the interpol fans were worse. therefore, someone as closed mind and negative as yourself might conclude that they "hate interpol and everything they stand for, mainly because of their fans."
make sense?
live and let live.
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i feel like i should stand up and clap. :)
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Originally posted by thatguy:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i hate my chemical romance and everything they stand for. mainly because of their fans.
you hate a band that you've never listened to for reasons totally beyond their control, and hate everything they stand for without being willing or able to state what exactly that is.
makes perfect sense.
as evidenced by your posts on the other thread, there were, to use your word, douchebags and a fight at the interpol show. there were no fights and no drama at the story of the year/mcr show. based on that limited information (about as much information as you use to judge mcr and their fans, if not more), i'd wager that most people would say that the interpol fans were worse. therefore, someone as closed mind and negative as yourself might conclude that they "hate interpol and everything they stand for, mainly because of their fans."
make sense?
live and let live. [/b]
i have heard a my chemical romance song (and watched the laughable video), "I'm Not OK", which was on one of those "best of new rock" shows on mtv2.
i hate my chemical romance because they are an emo-core clone, and i hate the entire genre of emo-core. here's why: the sense of sadness, depression, and self-loathing hocked by bands like MCR, The Used, etc, etc has pervaded every fucking part of "popular" modern rock (ie, what's on the radio and MTV). it's the same moods expressed by the nu-metal scene, it's just all "i hate myself and i want to die".
so now on rock radio/music tv we have a few genres: nu-metal and emo-core mainly, and a few other tracks that happen to break big (by accident, usually). when you turn on DC101 or HFS all you hear is people telling you how much life sucks and how much they want to end it.
emo fans just piss me off, just like people who say "Happy Monday!" piss me off, or people who forward emails, or ignorant rednecks. i just don't like them. and don't tell me that the (modern) emo scene is some kind of vibrant and diverse group of people. it's downtrodden kids who need someone to reinforce their anger and pain, and it comes with a dress code.
of course it's beyond their control that i hate MCR. i hate plenty of bands, and it's all beyond their control. i dont expect my hatred to make them change or anything.
re: interpol vs. MCR fans. I like plenty of bands that have rowdy fans and play shows where fights break out. I also like plenty of bands that have become cache and attract douches. Douches and assholes don't preclude me liking a band. An emo-kid fanbase does.
Why? Reasons? Why am I so warped?
Who knows, but I can tell you one thing, I'm not the only person in the world who is praying the emo-core fad is passing.
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Nu-Emo..?
Run with it.
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Ahem. Boy it sucks to be you Hoya.
"Lighten up, Frances."
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Originally posted by chaz:
Ahem. Boy it sucks to be you Hoya.
"Lighten up, Frances."
nah, it's kinda fun, having opinions and such.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by chaz:
Ahem. Boy it sucks to be you Hoya.
"Lighten up, Frances."
nah, it's kinda fun, having opinions and such. [/b]
Happy Wednesday!
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by chaz:
Ahem. Boy it sucks to be you Hoya.
"Lighten up, Frances."
nah, it's kinda fun, having boyfriends and such. [/b]
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i have heard a my chemical romance song (and watched the laughable video), "I'm Not OK", which was on one of those "best of new rock" shows on mtv2.
i hate my chemical romance because they are an emo-core clone, and i hate the entire genre of emo-core. here's why: the sense of sadness, depression, and self-loathing hocked by bands like MCR, The Used, etc, etc has pervaded every fucking part of "popular" modern rock (ie, what's on the radio and MTV). it's the same moods expressed by the nu-metal scene, it's just all "i hate myself and i want to die".
so now on rock radio/music tv we have a few genres: nu-metal and emo-core mainly, and a few other tracks that happen to break big (by accident, usually). when you turn on DC101 or HFS all you hear is people telling you how much life sucks and how much they want to end it.
emo fans just piss me off, just like people who say "Happy Monday!" piss me off, or people who forward emails, or ignorant rednecks. i just don't like them. and don't tell me that the (modern) emo scene is some kind of vibrant and diverse group of people. it's downtrodden kids who need someone to reinforce their anger and pain, and it comes with a dress code.
of course it's beyond their control that i hate MCR. i hate plenty of bands, and it's all beyond their control. i dont expect my hatred to make them change or anything.
re: interpol vs. MCR fans. I like plenty of bands that have rowdy fans and play shows where fights break out. I also like plenty of bands that have become cache and attract douches. Douches and assholes don't preclude me liking a band. An emo-kid fanbase does.
Why? Reasons? Why am I so warped?
Who knows, but I can tell you one thing, I'm not the only person in the world who is praying the emo-core fad is passing.
dude, shut the fuck up already. get over yourself. before i come over there and stare at your girlfriend.
you ignorant redneck.
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High five sonick!
<img src="http://www.sutton.com/aboutsutton/images/high-five.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by Allergic:
hahaha exactly.
well..
i love the comment he made
"I can't do anything without my home boys around"
what a fucking pussy
it was a choice between standing up for myself and getting in a fight with two guys who are bigger than me, or respecting a bar that I really like and go to often by letting them handle the situation.
or i could have just said nothing and walked away, which would have been the real pussy choice.
ps: I'm not OOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK [/b]
I just noticed that you wrote 27 K's, which is divisible by three. :D
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i have heard a my chemical romance song (and watched the laughable video), "I'm Not OK", which was on one of those "best of new rock" shows on mtv2.
i hate my chemical romance because they are an emo-core clone, and i hate the entire genre of emo-core. here's why: the sense of sadness, depression, and self-loathing hocked by bands like MCR, The Used, etc, etc has pervaded every fucking part of "popular" modern rock (ie, what's on the radio and MTV). it's the same moods expressed by the nu-metal scene, it's just all "i hate myself and i want to die".
so now on rock radio/music tv we have a few genres: nu-metal and emo-core mainly, and a few other tracks that happen to break big (by accident, usually). when you turn on DC101 or HFS all you hear is people telling you how much life sucks and how much they want to end it.
emo fans just piss me off, just like people who say "Happy Monday!" piss me off, or people who forward emails, or ignorant rednecks. i just don't like them. and don't tell me that the (modern) emo scene is some kind of vibrant and diverse group of people. it's downtrodden kids who need someone to reinforce their anger and pain, and it comes with a dress code.
of course it's beyond their control that i hate MCR. i hate plenty of bands, and it's all beyond their control. i dont expect my hatred to make them change or anything.
re: interpol vs. MCR fans. I like plenty of bands that have rowdy fans and play shows where fights break out. I also like plenty of bands that have become cache and attract douches. Douches and assholes don't preclude me liking a band. An emo-kid fanbase does.
Why? Reasons? Why am I so warped?
Who knows, but I can tell you one thing, I'm not the only person in the world who is praying the emo-core fad is passing.
dude, shut the fuck up already. get over yourself. before i come over there and stare at your girlfriend.
you ignorant redneck. [/b]
:D
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
are those two girls?
i hate my chemical romance and everything they stand for. mainly because of their fans.
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
get a fucking clue, you're not talking to the jocks at your high school who make fun of you for listening to alternative music.
i'm sorry that you've been brainwashed by emo-core trash. you'll wake up in a couple of years and come to your senses, but it will be a long, tough recovery.
Are you sure all you did was stare at the two guys who were checking out your lady?
You seem fairly unprovoked here, but worthy of a whipping.
And then alas, the bouncer at the 9:30 has to bail you out, in his own, shall we call it eloquent, way.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
but then again, I'm a cynical misanthrope who loves to stereotype and categorize.
you really sound like every bit of a jerk as the people you are whining about in the other thread thats all. [/b]
a jerk, yes. a douchebag, no.
very critical distinction there. [/b]
Hey Hoya, don't let Sonick bother you too much. He's not worried about mouthing off all the time like he does until he gets a reaction from someone because he'll just send his girlfriend in to punch them out. :D :D :D
Laughed my ass off.
(Allergic, you need to know your recent 9:30 forum history to not take it so wrong.)
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Hey Hoya, don't let Sonick bother you too much. He's not worried about mouthing off all the time like he does until he gets a reaction from someone because he'll just send his girlfriend in to punch them out. :roll:
i don't get hot and bothered too easily ... but what does piss me off is asking about my thought processes, then telling me to shut the fuck up and stop posting when i lay it out there for you
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Just stop writing! hahah god.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i don't get hot and bothered too easily ... [/b]
Well everything you've said so far contridicts this statement. By your own admission you seem bothered by just about everything. You are a misanthrope, correct? Or is that just a big word you learned at college?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by Jaguär:
Hey Hoya, don't let Sonick bother you too much. He's not worried about mouthing off all the time like he does until he gets a reaction from someone because he'll just send his girlfriend in to punch them out. :roll:
i don't get hot and bothered too easily ... but what does piss me off is asking about my thought processes, then telling me to shut the fuck up and stop posting when i lay it out there for you [/b]
dude. everything you say in this thread, contradicts what you say in the Interpol-douchebag thread. and just cause i got sick of your nonsense doesnt mean i backed off.
and jag's too old to remember that Rob Gee is the one who started talking about girlfriend's punching people.
you wanna argue about peoples freedom to listen to whatever band they want...bring it on pal, cause you're gonna lose every time!
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Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i don't get hot and bothered too easily ... [/b]
Well everything you've said so far contridicts this statement. By your own admission you seem bothered by just about everything. You are a misanthrope, correct? Or is that just a big word you learned at college? [/b]
haha, yeah. he doesnt get bothered easily but the songs selection on a radio station he doesnt even have to listen to really throws him in a tizzy (temper tantrum, that might be a canadian word)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i don't get hot and bothered too easily ... [/b]
Well everything you've said so far contridicts this statement. By your own admission you seem bothered by just about everything. You are a misanthrope, correct? Or is that just a big word you learned at college? [/b]
haha, yeah. he doesnt get bothered easily but the songs selection on a radio station he doesnt even have to listen to really throws him in a tizzy (temper tantrum, that might be a canadian word) [/b]
And those people that forward e-mails....god what is wrong with those fucking losers???
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Rio Bravo opens with Wayne's John T. Chance - a beefy cow-town sheriff with a resilient independent streak - in some considerable trouble. Joe Burdette, the rowdy black sheep brother of powerful rancher outlaw Nathan Burdette, is waiting in the city jail for extradition on murder charges; and the Burdette gang doesn't take too kindly to Chance's vision of court justice.
While John T. is as obstinate and ageless as any John Wayne character, the supporting cast, led by Dean Martin's Dude, clearly sets Rio Bravo apart.
Because of his stubborn self-reliance and his refusal to place his friends in danger by involving them in the violent situation, John T. relies on only two rag-tag deputies and a young-yet-wise gun-for-hire to protect the county of Presidio, Texas, and keep Burdette under lock and key until the U.S. Marshall arrives.
Dean Martin's Dude is known by the local Mexicans as Borachon, or The Drunken One. Dude found his way into a bottle after his woman took off on a stagecoach, and two years later he seems to be in no better shape. Ridiculed by outlaws and cowboys alike, Dude has become a shell of his former sharp-shooting self.
Conveniently, however, Dude turns the corner on his grief and alcoholism at just the right time. He joins forces with John T., an old friend and partner, and quickly regains his ability to dispense justice from the hip with circus-style revolver shots.
In the best exchange of Rio Bravo, a surprised Nathan Burdette asks Dude: `You're pretty good with that gun when you're sober. How did that happen?' Dude responds with a cool arrogance, `If you mean being good with a gun, I've had a lot of practice. If you mean being sober, I'm gettin' practice on account of your brother.'
While Dude is John T.'s close partner, Stumpy provides the happy trigger finger to protect the jail from the Burdette gang, and the wit and thick accent to keep the Fifties audience rolling in the aisles. Unfortunately, like many classic films, most of the humor in Rio Bravo - aside from Stumpy's dead-on impersonation of John Wayne that rivals only Joker's in Full Metal Jacket - does not age well.
Young music and film star Ricky Nelson handles the character of Colorado Ryan with remarkable ease. Reluctant at first, John T. learns to trust Colorado for his lightning fast pistol skills, his aversion to meddling in others business, and his silky smooth crooning.
Rio Bravo is certainly in the top tier of westerns, and it has its star-studded group of actors to thank. Even with their best work, however, the film just cannot make that considerable climb over the hump to greatness. Like many other films in its genre, the motivations of both the characters and the plotline become hopelessly muddled at times.
For instance, the opening scene of Rio Bravo, which sets up the action and main story, is one of the most important parts of the film. In an effort to incorporate most major characters into this scene, however, the inspiration behind the players, especially Joe Burdette, is never clear. In addition, the history between John T. and Dude is never explored or fully explained.
That said, director Howard Hawks proves that a wide assortment of actors not usually associated with the genre can help John Wayne carry the film and maintain the leisurely style that propels Rio Bravo
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i hate my chemical romance
i hate the entire genre of emo-core.
emo fans just piss me off, just like people who say "Happy Monday!" piss me off, or people who forward emails, or ignorant rednecks. i just don't like them.
i hate plenty of bands
hoyasax is a pretty laid back dude.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i hate my chemical romance
i hate the entire genre of emo-core.
emo fans just piss me off, just like people who say "Happy Monday!" piss me off, or people who forward emails, or ignorant rednecks. i just don't like them.
i hate plenty of bands
hoyasax is a pretty laid back dude. [/b]
And that girl whose honor he defended at DC9 is one lucky lady.
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[/qb][/QUOTE]hoyasax is a pretty laid back dude. [/qb][/QUOTE]And that girl whose honor he defended at DC9 is one lucky lady. [/QB][/QUOTE]
rofllllllllllll
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wow, you're doin some diggin!
Originally posted by chaz:
As the camera in the saloon swings to a low-angle shot and the orchestra strikes an ominous chord, the towering image of John Wayne fills the screen. Just as Wayne had presided over western pictures for thirty years (and would continue to do for more than another decade), veteran director Howard Hawks (Scarface, Red River) almost certainly intended Wayne to carry his 1959 Warner Brothers film Rio Bravo.
Fortunately for us, however, Rio Bravo is not your archetypal John Wayne film.
Co-star Dean Martin, as `Dude,' an alcoholic gunslinger struggling with sobriety, steals the screen in nearly every scene of Rio Bravo. Martin's potent mixture of innate coolness, vulnerability, and unflustered acting creates a dynamic and vibrant character that truly drives the unhurried emotional tenor of the film.
Rio Bravo opens with Wayne's John T. Chance - a beefy cow-town sheriff with a resilient independent streak - in some considerable trouble. Joe Burdette, the rowdy black sheep brother of powerful rancher outlaw Nathan Burdette, is waiting in the city jail for extradition on murder charges; and the Burdette gang doesn't take too kindly to Chance's vision of court justice.
While John T. is as obstinate and ageless as any John Wayne character, the supporting cast, led by Dean Martin's Dude, clearly sets Rio Bravo apart.
Because of his stubborn self-reliance and his refusal to place his friends in danger by involving them in the violent situation, John T. relies on only two rag-tag deputies and a young-yet-wise gun-for-hire to protect the county of Presidio, Texas, and keep Burdette under lock and key until the U.S. Marshall arrives.
Dean Martin's Dude is known by the local Mexicans as Borachon, or The Drunken One. Dude found his way into a bottle after his woman took off on a stagecoach, and two years later he seems to be in no better shape. Ridiculed by outlaws and cowboys alike, Dude has become a shell of his former sharp-shooting self.
Conveniently, however, Dude turns the corner on his grief and alcoholism at just the right time. He joins forces with John T., an old friend and partner, and quickly regains his ability to dispense justice from the hip with circus-style revolver shots.
In the best exchange of Rio Bravo, a surprised Nathan Burdette asks Dude: `You're pretty good with that gun when you're sober. How did that happen?' Dude responds with a cool arrogance, `If you mean being good with a gun, I've had a lot of practice. If you mean being sober, I'm gettin' practice on account of your brother.'
While Dude is John T.'s close partner, Stumpy provides the happy trigger finger to protect the jail from the Burdette gang, and the wit and thick accent to keep the Fifties audience rolling in the aisles. Unfortunately, like many classic films, most of the humor in Rio Bravo - aside from Stumpy's dead-on impersonation of John Wayne that rivals only Joker's in Full Metal Jacket - does not age well.
Young music and film star Ricky Nelson handles the character of Colorado Ryan with remarkable ease. Reluctant at first, John T. learns to trust Colorado for his lightning fast pistol skills, his aversion to meddling in others business, and his silky smooth crooning.
Rio Bravo is certainly in the top tier of westerns, and it has its star-studded group of actors to thank. Even with their best work, however, the film just cannot make that considerable climb over the hump to greatness. Like many other films in its genre, the motivations of both the characters and the plotline become hopelessly muddled at times.
For instance, the opening scene of Rio Bravo, which sets up the action and main story, is one of the most important parts of the film. In an effort to incorporate most major characters into this scene, however, the inspiration behind the players, especially Joe Burdette, is never clear. In addition, the history between John T. and Dude is never explored or fully explained.
That said, director Howard Hawks proves that a wide assortment of actors not usually associated with the genre can help John Wayne carry the film and maintain the leisurely style that propels Rio Bravo
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I have to agree with sonick on this matter, i mean let these people enjoy their bad music, and if you dont know them personally what the shit should you care? if someone i actually know and care about likes this insanely horrible type of music then i make a point to introduce them to something original...but for the jokers who do like this music, let em, thats less people at the shows i attend....and no one likes a show where you cant even turn your shoulders.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i hate my chemical romance because they are an emo-core clone, and i hate the entire genre of emo-core. here's why: the sense of sadness, depression, and self-loathing hocked by bands like MCR, The Used, etc, etc has pervaded every fucking part of "popular" modern rock (ie, what's on the radio and MTV). it's the same moods expressed by the nu-metal scene, it's just all "i hate myself and i want to die".
so now on rock radio/music tv we have a few genres: nu-metal and emo-core mainly, and a few other tracks that happen to break big (by accident, usually). when you turn on DC101 or HFS all you hear is people telling you how much life sucks and how much they want to end it.
emo fans just piss me off, just like people who say "Happy Monday!" piss me off, or people who forward emails, or ignorant rednecks. i just don't like them. and don't tell me that the (modern) emo scene is some kind of vibrant and diverse group of people. it's downtrodden kids who need someone to reinforce their anger and pain, and it comes with a dress code.
1) What's interesting to me is that, not being a MCR fan, I hadn't even looked at this thread until this morning, because today I have work I'm trying to avoid.... ;) If I hate a band or am simply even disinterested, I'd ignore the threads about it (especially one that's billed as just pictures from the show...).
2) You know, I listen to a LOT of music and had no idea of this insidious and pervasive infiltration of all that is musical by the emo-core scene. Oh wait, I don't listen to HFS or DC101, so it doesn't affect me at all. That's right, I'm not even aware it's out there as some musical axis of evil because I listen to a bunch of music I like, regardless of influences, and the rest of the radio crap is someone else's domain. Funny, that.
3) Actually, a lot of stuff I listened to in the 80s had the same melancholy message and atmosphere, either wrapped in Morrissey's wonderful warble, or as a more nuanced message in the post-punk wails of a guitar. Not quite sure what this emo-core is all about, but sounds like music for the kids that's about life's hard knocks -- pretty much a standard (it's that, or the flip side of American Idol/Britney pop -- we had new wave for that). We even wore Doc Martins and heavy eye-liner WAY back then....
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Originally posted by Bags:
I don't listen to HFS or DC101, so it doesn't affect me at all.
this was a source of amusement for us at the Muse show. cause this girl was like "are they going to play that song thats on the radio?"
she asked me since I was at the Philly show, and i said "i have no idea what song is on the radio" she gave me a wierd look, like surely i had to be lying, but really, i dont know.
i still don't
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Exactly, Sonick -- it was funny, when the crowd would really woop it up, my friend would say, "this must be one from the radio..."
:D
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
wow, you're doin some diggin!
What can I say...i had a lot of time on my hands yesterday.
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Hey man -- whatever happened at the Juliette Lewis show?
Did you bone her?
Originally posted by tinygee:
I have to agree with sonick on this matter, i mean let these people enjoy their bad music, and if you dont know them personally what the shit should you care? if someone i actually know and care about likes this insanely horrible type of music then i make a point to introduce them to something original...but for the jokers who do like this music, let em, thats less people at the shows i attend....and no one likes a show where you cant even turn your shoulders.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Hey man -- whatever happened at the Juliette Lewis show?
Did you bone her?
YES!! i forgot all about that. we were going to go too. damn. totally slipped my mind.
yeah, tinygee...did you score?
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Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
wow, you're doin some diggin!
What can I say...i had a lot of time on my hands yesterday. [/b]
did you find my nude pics on suicidegirls? my good charlotte tats are prominently displayed
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Originally posted by tinygee:
I have to agree with sonick on this matter, i mean let these people enjoy their bad music, and if you dont know them personally what the shit should you care? if someone i actually know and care about likes this insanely horrible type of music then i make a point to introduce them to something original...but for the jokers who do like this music, let em, thats less people at the shows i attend....and no one likes a show where you cant even turn your shoulders.
very good point ... as i said before, emo-core is just a (big) pet peeve of mine, thought i'd vent a bit ...
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
wow, you're doin some diggin!
What can I say...i had a lot of time on my hands yesterday. [/b]
did you find my nude pics on suicidegirls? [/b]
Nope, just your strangely drawn out movie reviews on IMDB. These were for school, right? I can't imagine anyone spending that much time writing an on-line review of Rio Bravo.
And oh yeah....Go Bucs! ;)
ps - enjoy Bangkok. lucky for you the emo scene there has all but died out!
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chaz makes me laugh.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
chaz makes me laugh.
i'm trying to make nice here sonick.
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Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
wow, you're doin some diggin!
What can I say...i had a lot of time on my hands yesterday. [/b]
did you find my nude pics on suicidegirls? [/b]
Nope, just your strangely drawn out movie reviews on IMDB. These were for school, right? I can't imagine anyone spending that much time writing an on-line review of Rio Bravo.
And oh yeah....Go Bucs! ;)
ps - enjoy Bangkok. lucky for you the emo scene there has all but died out! [/b]
I took one class second semester senior year, pop culture criticism, pretty much the perfect end to college. And, yes, that review was for that class.
This pre-Farenheit 9/11 review of Canadian Bacon, however, was because I was pissed off at stupid fucking people (per usual):
HoyaSaxa03
washington, dc
Date: 25 June 2003
Summary: you don't get it
most of you detractors are completely missing michael moore's sarcasm and self-deprecation ... do you really think that this man is dumb enough not to realize how heavy handed and over-the-top his message in this movie is?
canadian bacon is a parody of EVERYTHING, including moore's (over) earnestness ... i can kind of compare this movie to tim robbin's "bob roberts" or warren beatty's "bulworth" ... sure, the star director / writer / producer force feed you their liberal message, but they're also winking at themselves the entire way through ...
that said, canadian bacon is in the lower echelon of this genre, there just aren't enough laughs and the film is way too disjointed ... i also can't stand rhea perlman ... something just never clicks.
michael moore is the most politically polarizing filmmaker in the country... and that's really saying something ...
moore really seems to set something off inside of right wingers like no other bleeding heart in hollywood has been able to replicate.
i know plenty of conservatives who watched, and enjoyed, "bulworth" without agreeing with beatty's populism ... this unbiased approach just seems impossible with moore's movies (two of which are undeniably brilliant works of documentary film) ...
right wingers (again, for the most part) just categorically reject moore's work on every level ... its just too bad moore had to make a mediocre film like "canadian bacon" to provide his ideological critics with legitimate artistic complaints.
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Cheers Hoya! Have fun on your trip. Just don't kill anyone over there, k?
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Hey man -- whatever happened at the Juliette Lewis show?
Did you bone her?
YES!! i forgot all about that. we were going to go too. damn. totally slipped my mind.
yeah, tinygee...did you score? [/b]
And you have the gall to get on me about my memory! I never stated that you started the girlfriend punching subject; however, you did go on with Rob about your Redneck girlfriends, sonnyboy. :roll: Maybe she needs to slap some sense into you. Might do you some good.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Hey man -- whatever happened at the Juliette Lewis show?
Did you bone her?
I cockblocked him...
Damn did she have a flat smooth tummy.
Also what the hell did I start in here with my joke LOL
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Hey man -- whatever happened at the Juliette Lewis show?
Did you bone her?
YES!! i forgot all about that. we were going to go too. damn. totally slipped my mind.
yeah, tinygee...did you score? [/b]
And you have the gall to get on me about my memory! I never stated that you started the girlfriend punching subject; however, you did go on with Rob about your Redneck girlfriends, sonnyboy. :roll: Maybe she needs to slap some sense into you. Might do you some good. [/b]
like you would know
:roll:
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hahaha you fucking geeks remember everything eh?