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Title: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: SPARX on May 13, 2006, 03:32:00 pm
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Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: BLACKSTORM on May 13, 2006, 04:19:00 pm
Is she really punk rock. Something about having an MBA and punk rock doesn't quite mix. Congrats to her, but I don't think she's punk rock.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: SPARX on May 13, 2006, 04:38:00 pm
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Originally posted by BLACKSTORM:
  Is she really punk rock. Something about having an MBA and punk rock doesn't quite mix. Congrats to her, but I don't think she's punk rock.
I don't know about that. In my experiences it seems nonconformists tend to question things more and are in general more intellectually stimulated than your average Joe on the block.Most of my school friends were original 70's punks (spiked hair, wild clothes ,the whole 9 yds.)and they managed to graduate college and be successful. I don't think intelligence is a disqualification for punk rock status, it's more about perspective and oulook on things in general IMHO.Props to her for doing it her way, just like Frank and Sid.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 13, 2006, 06:57:00 pm
I guess the MBA part of it is what seems un-punk rock, not the premature matriculation itself.   On the other hand, if you're a punk, getting a Masters in Business Administration would be *very* nonconformist according to the rules of most "punk" peer groups.  On the other hand, nobody is a real punk rocker in 2006.  
 
 Finally check out Paul Weller saying way back in 1978 that punk rock is nothing but a media construct on the "Tomorrow Show" with Tom Snyder (available on Netflix).
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 15, 2006, 02:02:00 pm
if this is a piling on for people who get an mba, then let me join in.  however, if this is simply saying that getting higher degrees in general is not punk rock, then, obviously, greg graffin is totally not punk rock.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 15, 2006, 02:08:00 pm
I don't know if getting an MBA makes you a genius or un-punk, but from her picture, it clearly makes you a homely dweeb.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: vansmack on May 15, 2006, 02:14:00 pm
Clearly it's the effect of Mountain Dew.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: bearman🐻 on May 15, 2006, 02:55:00 pm
Rhett, why do you always have to belittle people because of the way they look? Ultimately, who really cares? We're born with what we have, and that's all we have to work with. Sure, a paint job, different clothes and a trip to the gym can help, but it's far easier to do a personality makeover. It's never too late to stop being negative.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 15, 2006, 03:05:00 pm
Were you on the high school cheerleading squad? Your overarching positivity is boring.
 
 I think I tend to be a mix of positive and negative on here, which is the way most people are in real life, when they feel comfortable sharing their real thoughts.
 
 I'm a visual person, like many guys are. When I first see someone, my initial thoughts are based on what a person looks like and how they carry themselves.
 
   
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Originally posted by bearman:
  Rhett, why do you always have to belittle people because of the way they look? Ultimately, who really cares? We're born with what we have, and that's all we have to work with. Sure, a paint job, different clothes and a trip to the gym can help, but it's far easier to do a personality makeover. It's never too late to stop being negative.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: bearman🐻 on May 15, 2006, 03:19:00 pm
I think you are far more negative than positive, especially when it comes to finding and pointing out the shortcomings, tastes, and physical attributes of others. If you find me boring, then just ignore me. It's really just that simple!
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 15, 2006, 03:23:00 pm
I would point out how hot various people are, but I don't think my wife would appreciate that. It's much safer pointing out the ugly people.  :)
 
 
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Originally posted by bearman:
  I think you are far more negative than positive, especially when it comes to finding and pointing out the shortcomings, tastes, and physical attributes of others. If you find me boring, then just ignore me. It's really just that simple!
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: chaz on May 15, 2006, 05:18:00 pm
Yeah dude...you're constantly saying how ugly, fat, bald etc people are.  It's pretty funny actually.
 
 Shallow, shallow, shallow.
 
 Too bad we can't all be super buff male supermodels like Mr. Rhett.  You should change your username Rhett, Shallow Male Supermodel.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 15, 2006, 05:22:00 pm
Why would anyone be anything other than shallow on an internet message board?
 
 And why does pointing out what people look like make someone shallow anyway? I'll bet looks are the only thing you notice about 99% of the people you come in contact with yourself.
 
 And let me ask you, did looks play at least a partial role in who you selected as your wife? If so, you're shallow, shallow, shallow.
 
 
   
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
  Yeah dude...you're constantly saying how ugly, fat, bald etc people are.  It's pretty funny actually.
 
 Shallow, shallow, shallow.
 
 Too bad we can't all be super buff male supermodels like Mr. Rhett.  You should change your username Rhett, Shallow Male Supermodel.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: SPARX on May 15, 2006, 10:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by Doomter Doc:
     
 
 Finally check out Paul Weller saying way back in 1978 that punk rock is nothing but a media construct on the "Tomorrow Show" with Tom Snyder (available on Netflix).
His last TV performance with The Jam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_9fFL2dmZU&search=The%20Tubes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_9fFL2dmZU&search=The%20Tubes)
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 15, 2006, 10:36:00 pm
Wow, that's great.  Youtube rocks!
 
 I hope you don't mind me reposting it on Doomlink (http://www.alex.to/doomlink)!
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: SPARX on May 15, 2006, 10:40:00 pm
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Originally posted by Doomter Doc:
  Wow, that's great.  Youtube rocks!
 
 I hope you don't mind me reposting it on Doomlink (http://www.alex.to/doomlink)!
Thought you'd like that.                       Youtube is a virtual blackhole of coolness! It never ceases to amaze me. It's only let me down once, searching for No Trend - Teen love
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 15, 2006, 10:46:00 pm
Your mention of No Trend got me wondering about video from the old 930 club, and that turned up this video of the Slickees supposedly filmed there:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTPpGz8SXd0&search=old%20930%20club (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTPpGz8SXd0&search=old%20930%20club)
 
 I'm not totally convinced, the stage seems the right shape, but bigger than I remember it....
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: you be betty on May 15, 2006, 10:50:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  Why would anyone be anything other than shallow on an internet message board?
 
 And why does pointing out what people look like make someone shallow anyway? I'll bet looks are the only thing you notice about 99% of the people you come in contact with yourself.
 
   
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
  Yeah dude...you're constantly saying how ugly, fat, bald etc people are.  It's pretty funny actually.
 
 Shallow, shallow, shallow.
 
 Too bad we can't all be super buff male supermodels like Mr. Rhett.  You should change your username Rhett, Shallow Male Supermodel.
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You'll have to ask yourself that question, no?  While this may only be an internet message board, yes, some of us do take offense to superficiality, no matter the context.
 
 Your argument is what's troubling me right now.  When asking why your comment made you shallow, you reasoned with the fact that apparently everyone else acts this way.  I'm going to have to say that there are plenty of us on here that don't pay that much attention to that kind of stuff.  There's a difference between taking notice of someone's appearence (something which is simply human nature), and using that observation in your judgement/interaction with that person.  And as far as I'm concerned, the second one is NOT okay in my book.  Whether on an internet message board, or in real life.
 
 Say what you will - I'm the LAST person who is going to try to dissuade anyone from speaking their mind.  But just trust me; beautiful people are NOT all they're cracked up to be.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 15, 2006, 10:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by you be betty:
  beautiful people are NOT all they're cracked up to be.
Sometimes they're not even all they're coked up to be.    :D
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: chaz on May 15, 2006, 11:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  Why would anyone be anything other than shallow on an internet message board?
 
 And why does pointing out what people look like make someone shallow anyway? I'll bet looks are the only thing you notice about 99% of the people you come in contact with yourself.
 
 And let me ask you, did looks play at least a partial role in who you selected as your wife? If so, you're shallow, shallow, shallow.
 
 
     
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
  Yeah dude...you're constantly saying how ugly, fat, bald etc people are.  It's pretty funny actually.
 
 Shallow, shallow, shallow.
 
 Too bad we can't all be super buff male supermodels like Mr. Rhett.  You should change your username Rhett, Shallow Male Supermodel.
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Thanks for the offer Rhett, but I'll pass on the shallow for now.
 
 And your argument is so silly...of course looks played a part in me choosing my wife you nimrod.  
 
 Maybe you're not shallow, but who really cares.  What I do know is very very often you seem to point out how ugly or fat this one or that one is.  Just know that you look really silly doing it all the time.  MOre power to you though if you want to continue to look like an ass.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: thatguy on May 16, 2006, 02:38:00 am
this point is lost on many here, but an internet message board is part of real life.
 
 the logical question is: why would anyone be anything different than they really are on an internet message board?
 
 i've got some theories, but i don't think they are appropriate for a public forum.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 16, 2006, 02:49:00 am
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
 [qb]  MOre power to you though if you want to continue to look like an ass. [/b]
Looking like an ass can be a good thing...especially if it looks like Mrs. Rhett's ass!   :eek:
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 16, 2006, 06:53:00 am
And quite often ugly people aren't all they're cracked up to be.
 
 I wasn't aware I was having an INTERACTION with someone by commenting on their picture that was posted on a chatboard. If someone posted a picture of George Bush on the 9:30 chatboard, and you commented "That guy is an asshole", are you thus having an interaction with him?
 
 And as far as JUDGING her, yes, I was judging her looks. I was not projecting that as a complete judgment of her as a person. Based on what I see and read about her, she's book smart and homely, which is what I pointed out. She's also stupid for being addicted to soda. Those are the only judgments I can really make about her, and they certainly don't cover a lot of ground.
 
 Some of you need to get over yourselves and stop being so selectively judgmental. Why aren't you calling out Vansmack or Fico for being shallow every time they point out that some 18 year old girl is "hot"?
 
 
 
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Originally posted by you be betty:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  Why would anyone be anything other than shallow on an internet message board?
 
 And why does pointing out what people look like make someone shallow anyway? I'll bet looks are the only thing you notice about 99% of the people you come in contact with yourself.
 
   
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
  Yeah dude...you're constantly saying how ugly, fat, bald etc people are.  It's pretty funny actually.
 
 Shallow, shallow, shallow.
 
 Too bad we can't all be super buff male supermodels like Mr. Rhett.  You should change your username Rhett, Shallow Male Supermodel.
[/b]
You'll have to ask yourself that question, no?  While this may only be an internet message board, yes, some of us do take offense to superficiality, no matter the context.
 
 Your argument is what's troubling me right now.  When asking why your comment made you shallow, you reasoned with the fact that apparently everyone else acts this way.  I'm going to have to say that there are plenty of us on here that don't pay that much attention to that kind of stuff.  There's a difference between taking notice of someone's appearence (something which is simply human nature), and using that observation in your judgement/interaction with that person.  And as far as I'm concerned, the second one is NOT okay in my book.  Whether on an internet message board, or in real life.
 
 Say what you will - I'm the LAST person who is going to try to dissuade anyone from speaking their mind.  But just trust me; beautiful people are NOT all they're cracked up to be. [/b]
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 16, 2006, 07:38:00 am
Zzzz... this thread seemed to be heading in one of two directions, but unfortunately the direction it ultimately chose was the one focused on Rhett's views of beauty, shallowness, and the internet.  Too bad.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Guiny on May 16, 2006, 08:11:00 am
You always know an argument is lost when someone says that this thread is getting old or boring.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: chaz on May 16, 2006, 08:26:00 am
Rhett, just forget that Interpersonal Communications 101 definition of what true communication is or what an actual interaction may be.  That textbook was written by your older brother's college psych prof in 1976 or something.  It's a new age...people have real communication in other ways than talking and fucking now.
 
 My question is, how are we not interacting with each other here?
 
 And forget trying to explain to me how it's not rude and tacky to be constantly pointing out how geeky looking, ugly, fat or bald a person may be.  You'll never pull it off.  As I said before, please feel free to continue making an ass of yourself.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 16, 2006, 09:08:00 am
I don't believe I said anything negative about you. You're the one who is judging me and calling me names.
 
 
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
   
 
 My question is, how are we not interacting with each other here?
 
 And forget trying to explain to me how it's not rude and tacky to be constantly pointing out how geeky looking, ugly, fat or bald a person may be.  You'll never pull it off.  As I said before, please feel free to continue making an ass of yourself.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Celeste on May 16, 2006, 09:10:00 am
What I take issue with is the Misfits T-shirt. I mean, Misfits? Come on!
 
 And I was told she went to Wharton. What a let down.
 
 Aside from all that. I think one can be "punk" and get an MBA, sure, why not...
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: bearman🐻 on May 16, 2006, 10:41:00 am
I know Misfits are cliche these days, but I still love the Static Age record.  :)
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: chaz on May 16, 2006, 10:46:00 am
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Originally posted by bearman:
  I know Misfits are cliche these days, but I still love the Static Age record.   :)  
And the Bullet 45 was a brutal little slice of wax...ehh I don't care if how dorky they are...I still love the old Misfits stuff.
 
 And yes, Rhett, I did call you names.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 16, 2006, 11:17:00 am
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Originally posted by thatguy:
  this point is lost on many here, but an internet message board is part of real life.
 
 the logical question is: why would anyone be anything different than they really are on an internet message board?
 
 i've got some theories, but i don't think they are appropriate for a public forum.
hahah.  me too.  i am exactly how i am in real life, on this messageboard.  and though i can almost guarantee that i am better looking than rhett to everyone but celeste....i dont go attacking someone's looks at every chance i get.
 
   i'll stop now.  rhett is just all around offensive to almost everyone isnt he?
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Guiny on May 16, 2006, 11:42:00 am
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Originally posted by the sonick:
 
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and though i can almost guarantee that i am better looking than rhett to everyone but celeste....[/b]
Have more confidence in yourself Sonick, you  never know, Celeste may think you are hotter than Rhett.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 16, 2006, 11:50:00 am
Nobody of the 15? 20? or so people I've met from the 9:30 board was anywhere near model good-looking, myself included.  I highly doubt you are any different, but hey, good to see you have such a high opinion of your looks.
 
 
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Originally posted by the sonick:
   
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Originally posted by thatguy:
  this point is lost on many here, but an internet message board is part of real life.
 
 the logical question is: why would anyone be anything different than they really are on an internet message board?
 
 i've got some theories, but i don't think they are appropriate for a public forum.
hahah.  me too.  i am exactly how i am in real life, on this messageboard.  and though i can almost guarantee that i am better looking than rhett to everyone but celeste....i dont go attacking someone's looks at every chance i get.
 
   i'll stop now.  rhett is just all around offensive to almost everyone isnt he? [/b]
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 16, 2006, 11:53:00 am
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  Nobody of the 15? 20? or so people I've met from the 9:30 board was anywhere near model good-looking, myself included.  I highly doubt you are any different, but hey, good to see you have such a high opinion of your looks.
 
I've seen your picture, rhett.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 16, 2006, 11:56:00 am
Well we haven't seen yours. Post a picture of yourself, big guy.
 
 And if you're speaking of the picture that psycho ggw posted of me, I can say that I've lost 10-15 pounds since then, and found a more suitable hair style.
 
   
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Originally posted by the sonick:
     
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  Nobody of the 15? 20? or so people I've met from the 9:30 board was anywhere near model good-looking, myself included.  I highly doubt you are any different, but hey, good to see you have such a high opinion of your looks.
 
I've seen your picture, rhett. [/b]
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 16, 2006, 12:07:00 pm
And I'll bet you $50 I can beat you in a 10K race or an IQ test, your choice.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 16, 2006, 12:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  Well we haven't seen yours. Post a picture of yourself, big guy.
 
 And if you're speaking of the picture that psycho ggw posted of me, I can say that I've lost 10-15 pounds since then, and found a more suitable hair style.
 
rhett, if i posted my picture on here, you would consider going back to being gay!!!!
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 16, 2006, 12:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  And I'll bet you $50 I can beat you in a 10K race or an IQ test, your choice.
well, damn Forrest, i guess you showed me.
 
 i'd pick the IQ test though  ;)
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 16, 2006, 12:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  And I'll bet you $50 I can beat you in a 10K race or an IQ test, your choice.
<img src="http://biboz.net/humor/huevos.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: chaz on May 16, 2006, 03:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  And I'll bet you $50 I can beat you in a 10K race or an IQ test, your choice.
My dad can beat up your dad.  Well, he could if it weren't for the dimentia and chronic back pain.
 
 Back in the day my dad would have kicked your dad's ass.
 
 And I bet I could beat you in a swimming race.  Name your distance!
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 16, 2006, 03:34:00 pm
My dad has been dead for 10 years, I'm not sure what beating him up would prove at this point. But I bet my dad could milk a cow better than your dad could, back in the day.
 
 And you're right. You probably can beat me in swimming. But I bet my wife could beat you.
 
 I bet I can fart louder than you.   :D  
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  And I'll bet you $50 I can beat you in a 10K race or an IQ test, your choice.
My dad can beat up your dad.  Well, he could if it weren't for the dimentia and chronic back pain.
 
 Back in the day my dad would have kicked your dad's ass.
 
 And I bet I could beat you in a swimming race.  Name your distance! [/b]
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 16, 2006, 03:38:00 pm
this thread is getting very depressing.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: chaz on May 16, 2006, 03:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by the sonick:
  this thread is getting very depressing.
Agreed.  I quit!
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Guiny on May 16, 2006, 03:50:00 pm
Winner = Rhett by default
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 16, 2006, 03:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Winner = Rhett by default
Loser = Rob, for declaring a winner
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 16, 2006, 04:01:00 pm
Actually, the biggest winner will be the homely punk rock girl, as she'll probably be making the total of all of our salaries before she is any of our current ages.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Guiny on May 16, 2006, 04:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by the sonick:
 
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Loser = Rob, for declaring a winner [/b]
Your so shallow.
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 16, 2006, 04:34:00 pm
I can beat you in a spelling contest.
 
 
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   
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Originally posted by the sonick:
 
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Loser = Rob, for declaring a winner [/b]
Your so shallow. [/b]
Title: Re: Punk Rock Genius
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 16, 2006, 04:51:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
  I can beat you in a spelling contest.
 
   
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   
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Originally posted by the sonick:
 
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Loser = Rob, for declaring a winner [/b]
Your so shallow. [/b]
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hehehe