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Title: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: han on February 14, 2006, 02:17:00 pm
Did anyone get tickets?  I logged in at 1pm and they were already sold out.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 14, 2006, 02:19:00 pm
I got row P, orchestra. I turned them down. I'm sure I can get better tickets in the regular sale.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: eltee on February 14, 2006, 02:23:00 pm
No. I'm very sad. I hope I get some in the sale...I missed them last time b/c I was sick.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: sonickteam2 on February 14, 2006, 02:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by han:
  Did anyone get tickets?  I logged in at 1pm and they were already sold out.
its just cause the show is at such an awesome venue!
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 14, 2006, 02:47:00 pm
It seemed to sell out in about 2 seconds. No luck here.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: bearman🐻 on February 14, 2006, 03:15:00 pm
The better tickets will go on sale on Saturday during the general sale. I had much better luck with Pixies tickets than I did in the presale.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: LRHippo on February 14, 2006, 05:10:00 pm
two in row "J" here. Can't complain about that. First section of seats is a little too close for me anywho.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: han on February 14, 2006, 06:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by Thom Foolerie:
   
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Originally posted by han:
  Did anyone get tickets?  I logged in at 1pm and they were already sold out.
its just cause the show is at such an awesome venue! [/b]
hmm... I've never been, but heard DAR kinda sucked.
 
 Wait, seating is assigned?  oh god, maybe I don't want to see this show.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 14, 2006, 07:01:00 pm
I still think this show should be at Merriweather due to demand in ticket sales.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: Relaxer on February 14, 2006, 07:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
  I still think this show should be at Merriweather due to demand in ticket sales.
Franz Ferdinands' nipples would get cold and hard and poke holes in their sassy satin shirts.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: eros on February 14, 2006, 09:00:00 pm
Should anyone care, the Ticketmaster site says DCFC will be playing last.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 14, 2006, 10:07:00 pm
The thing I read said both bands will be playing full sets on this tour.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: distance on February 14, 2006, 11:21:00 pm
it's not worth the price to have to go to dar and then leave before dcfc.
 
 plus, it's at dar.
 
 BURN BURN BURN
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: helicon1 on February 15, 2006, 12:00:00 am
You guys should read the uprising over at DCist about the posting of pre-sale links for the DCFC/FF show. I'm glad I don't have an urge to see this. Can you imagine an audience full of these choads!
 
 web page (http://www.dcist.com/archives/2006/02/14/ticket_love.php#comments)
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 15, 2006, 06:08:00 am
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Originally posted by Glass Arm Shattering:
  You guys should read the uprising over at DCist about the posting of pre-sale links for the DCFC/FF show. I'm glad I don't have an urge to see this. Can you imagine an audience full of these choads!
 
 web page (http://www.dcist.com/archives/2006/02/14/ticket_love.php#comments)
when will they ever learn   ;)  a discussion i'm proud to say i had nothing to do with until i just found out about it.  i got all warm inside when dcist cited in their end of year warp-up the bitch storm that got kicked off  when i posted the phrase "need to know basis".
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 15, 2006, 06:13:00 am
and for all of you who complain about concerts a DAR i dedicate to  you track four "The World's Smallest Violin"  from the album "These Times Are Good" by the High Strung.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 15, 2006, 01:07:00 pm
I actually don't care about DAR, I just think the show has a demand large enough be at a bigger place.
 
 The Cribs are now opening all of these shows, by the way.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 15, 2006, 01:24:00 pm
this is one of those rare instances where an all year round merriweather configuration would make sense... the 5k inside seating in that venue would be a better alternative than DAR, Stratmore, or any of the smaller local arenas...  so how many grand old DC movie theaters got torn down in the name of progress?  one of the few things they did right in detroit was revitalize some of the downtown movie theaters into concert venues.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: chancegardener on February 16, 2006, 12:58:00 am
The indoor amphitheatre configuration is what they do up at the Tweeter Center in lovely Camden, NJ.  DCFC and FF are playing there that Saturday night 4/8.  On sale now for those of you willing to do a Philly road trip.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: eltee on February 16, 2006, 11:04:00 am
10:04 still closed...WTF?
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: eltee on February 16, 2006, 11:07:00 am
Oh just forget it. The password wasn't in the system is one message I rec'd. And I'm not even going to consider buying a ticket for $400 off of eBay. Looks like I'll be listening to my cd...
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: TVC15 on February 16, 2006, 11:08:00 am
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Originally posted by El Sugartastic:
  10:04 still closed...WTF?
And the wrong password? WTF
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kevhender on February 16, 2006, 11:09:00 am
LOL... I get through almost immediately after the sale starts and the first 2 seats they gave me were pretty much the worst seats in the house... top corner, second row from the top.  I'm thinking.... no.  We'll see how the regular sale goes, I'm sure it'll be more of the same bullshit.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: Bombay Chutney on February 16, 2006, 11:12:00 am
I had no problem with the password.  Crappy seats though.  Pass.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: allmy$to930 on February 16, 2006, 11:14:00 am
I passed on section T...so much for the presale.
 
 I like the idea of presale tickets being pretty bad seats, though.  Good call.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: paul3mac on February 16, 2006, 11:14:00 am
The page didn't show up for me until 10:05, entered password and got in right away, but apparently tickets were sold out already.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: squidbitz on February 16, 2006, 11:17:00 am
WHAT'S UP WITH MAKING THE PASSWORD UPPER-CASE?  DOESN'T SAY THAT TO THE 930 LOYAL FANS EMAIL DOES IT??? DOES IT...AND CRAP SEATS TO BOOT?  KUDOS TO YOU, KUDOS!
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: eltee on February 16, 2006, 11:18:00 am
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Originally posted by allmy$to930:
  I passed on section T...so much for the presale.
 
 I like the idea of presale tickets being pretty bad seats, though.  Good call.
And I thought I was just me being too picky - I'm with you...I've been spoiled seeing them a bit closer at 9:30. $50 is too high to sit that far away...and solo -- I only could get a ticket if I requested one. (offered G, N, and O then gone!)
 I still want to see them, but willing pay the same or slightly higher for a little closer.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: shivaya on February 16, 2006, 11:18:00 am
same here, tho i couldnt get in until 10:09. a bit bizarre to get no access to the page, and then to be sold out immediately.
 
 consoling that the seat selections were bad.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: on February 16, 2006, 11:19:00 am
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/b4def681.jpg" alt=" - " />
  "DAR !"
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: Bombay Chutney on February 16, 2006, 11:33:00 am
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Originally posted by squidbitz:
  WHAT'S UP WITH MAKING THE PASSWORD UPPER-CASE?  DOESN'T SAY THAT TO THE 930 LOYAL FANS EMAIL DOES IT??? DOES IT...AND CRAP SEATS TO BOOT?  KUDOS TO YOU, KUDOS!
Lower case worked just fine for me.  And the seats I  was offered weren't really that bad - they just weren't really that good (back of the floor and section D, but near the top).  I'll bet they offered a little of everything.  
 
 It's just a presale.  There will probably be 10x as many tickets available for the real sale.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 16, 2006, 11:45:00 am
maybe this is all apart of some fiendish plan to get rid of presales... get people so riled up about them, they wont miss them when they are no longer offered.
 
 personally i think the sell by date on presales has expired and they are no longer useful as even a marketing tool.  too many people think they are one of the few on the inside and will promptly get front row seats. i say get rid of them all together  unless the presale is held by a band as a fanclub perk like Pearl Jam.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: Bags on February 17, 2006, 12:00:00 am
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Originally posted by Glass Arm Shattering:
  You guys should read the uprising over at DCist about the posting of pre-sale links for the DCFC/FF show. I'm glad I don't have an urge to see this. Can you imagine an audience full of these choads!
 
 web page (http://www.dcist.com/archives/2006/02/14/ticket_love.php#comments)
Fabulous.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: chancegardener on February 17, 2006, 01:16:00 am
Um I picked up a quite excellent (single) pre-sale ticket this a.m. .. in one of the boxes up near the stage.  For those of you who will try again this weekend, try to get one of the box seats .. they are generally the best seats in the house at DAR. Absolutely no obstruction between you and the stage .. though admittedly your box can get kind-of crowded and unruly (it's a general admission seating approach once you're in the boxes, so it's first come-best seat).
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 17, 2006, 12:38:00 pm
Round 2 (http://www.dcist.com/archives/2006/02/16/morning_roundup_320.php#comments) on DCist... who get OWNED near the bottom of the thread.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: lukiedookie89 on February 18, 2006, 01:14:00 pm
I reloaded until exactly 12 and they were already sold out.  
 
 God damn you, ticket resellers.  God. Damn. You.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: jb1677 on February 18, 2006, 01:16:00 pm
Same thing here, yet somehow they are popping up on ebay right before my eyes.  How do they do it?
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: jamh on February 18, 2006, 01:17:00 pm
Yeah, I've failed three times now on that.  My only hope is that ticketmaster wants to jerk everyone around and release blocks of tickets leading up to the concert.  Do they even do that?  Either way, I'll be trying for days.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: Bombay Chutney on February 18, 2006, 01:19:00 pm
Wow - That was probably the least successful big venue sale I've dealt with.  After reloading several dozen times I finally pulled up one pair of crummy seats.  Thew 'em back and never got back in.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: paul3mac on February 18, 2006, 01:21:00 pm
yeah, i dont really understand the sale of ticket proccess for this show.  have to have been the most unsuccesful ever
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: jb1677 on February 18, 2006, 01:22:00 pm
I could not even pull up a SINGLE ticket yet some auctions on ebay are already clcosed.  Why not just give all the tickets to scalpers?
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: lukiedookie89 on February 18, 2006, 01:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by jb1677:
  Same thing here, yet somehow they are popping up on ebay right before my eyes.  How do they do it?
I swear, these people are going to hell.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: jamh on February 18, 2006, 01:27:00 pm
Let's pool our money, and arrange a buy from one of the scalpers.  We'll insist on an in-person exchange, and when we find them we steal their secret, right the wrongs, and break the kneecaps.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: ggw on February 18, 2006, 01:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by jamh:
  Let's pool our money, and arrange a buy from one of the scalpers.  We'll insist on an in-person exchange, and when we find them we steal their secret, right the wrongs, and break the kneecaps.
One of the eBay sellers (http://cgi.ebay.com/Death-Cab-for-Cutie-Franz-Ferdinand-Washington-DC-DAR_W0QQitemZ6606716269QQcategoryZ16122QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) included a phone number (206-363-4555)
 
 Feel free to call and tell him what you think.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: sadiespop on February 18, 2006, 01:38:00 pm
Holy jeevus.  I was just screwing around on the Ticketmaster site, furious that nothing ever came up for me.  I tried typing in one seat.  Up popped ORCHESTRA, ROW A, SEAT 5.  It's only one seat, but the first row orchestra is nothing to complain about.  This happened at 12:30, for those of you without hope!
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: Bombay Chutney on February 18, 2006, 01:47:00 pm
don't give up - I just pulled up rear floor at 12:45.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: Nick Caruana on February 18, 2006, 01:52:00 pm
Yeah I just got 3 for row C orchestra. . strange after being told by ticketmaster over the phone that the show was sold out. . .
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: matts on February 18, 2006, 01:59:00 pm
I just got rear Orchestra.  Never been to DAR before.  How are those seats?
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: jamh on February 18, 2006, 02:50:00 pm
This page (http://www.ticketliquidator.com/tix/Tickets.aspx?evtid=327667) is sick.  They must have at least 250 tickets for sale up there.  While I've seen a few extra tickets pop up on ebay that page has at least doubled in size.  Is that even legal here in dc?
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: jude376 on February 18, 2006, 03:06:00 pm
Does anyone know about seat numbering in the orchestra? Are sections arranged by odd/even or are they in numerical order? Just wondering what side I'm on since Benny G. seems to favor stage right. It probably doesn't matter anyway, as they're rear orchestra. After an hour of throwing back nose bleed and obstructed view seats, that's the best I could do.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: soundnova on February 18, 2006, 04:14:00 pm
I was going to get 6 tickets for the group of us to go. Online at 12, on the phone at 12. Finally got through close to 12:25, says show sold out. No matter what quantity I put in 2-6 the whole time was unavailable.
 
 Ticketmaster rep said they sold all the tickets in the presale.
 
 Pretty embarassing and a joke really to not have any tix for the actual general onsale. I know these bands are hot, but not hot enough to be selling out DAR in 0 seconds.
 
 Can't say that I am not EXTREMELY frustrated at this, as I'm sure ALOT of other people are.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: helicon1 on February 18, 2006, 05:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by jamh:
  This page (http://www.ticketliquidator.com/tix/Tickets.aspx?evtid=327667) is sick.  They must have at least 250 tickets for sale up there.  While I've seen a few extra tickets pop up on ebay that page has at least doubled in size.  Is that even legal here in dc?
DEMOCRACY RULEZ!
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: shtee223 on February 18, 2006, 07:27:00 pm
how can they sell ALL of the tickets in the presale? that's ridiculous. i hope they do something like add another night because i'm pretty pissed off.
 
 i was really looking forward to this show, because franz and dcfc are two of my favorite bands, but i can't go now unless i want to pay some stupidly high price.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: jude376 on February 19, 2006, 12:54:00 pm
Lies. They didn't sell all the tickets in the presale. Ticketbastard don't know what they're talkin' bout. There were still tickets available as late as 1:00 (just not very good ones, and probably only singles).
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: chokeychicken on February 19, 2006, 04:38:00 pm
first of all, re-selling tickets above face value is not illegal in DC.  it's perfectly legal, in fact.  
 
 and to the guy that said he was told that all the tickets were sold in the pre-sale, that was a lie.  all the tickets are NEVER sold in the presale.  about 30% of the ticket allotment is usually released during the presale.  i pulled 2 pairs during the public sale on saturday.
 
 and as for the guy who asked "how do they do it"...think about what you do at work every single day, day in and day out.  chances are, unless you're mentally retarded, you're pretty good at it.  all brokers do all day is pull tickets.  they have people doing it for them, and they know how to use ticketmaster better than the average fan.  people think that brokers have all this special software that allows them to get in before everybody else, and that's simply not true.  brokers get the best tickets and you get nothing because brokers use ticketmaster every single day to buy tickets and you don't.  plan and simple.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 19, 2006, 11:05:00 pm
brokers may not have special software to get tickets, but they found ways to work the system to get multiple tickets at once, they can figure the links into the order pages, they have software that can quickly generate the random word that was put in place to "slow" them down.  one would think that ticketmaster could determine which purchasers were generating invalid password attempts and shut them down.  short of requiring all to sold non-transferrable and be picked up at the venue at the time of the show, brokers will find ways to exploit the system.  once a upon a time tickets were only sold at the venue requiring camping out, even then brokers hired people to wait in line.  
 
 same was the case for when the first ticketmaster outlets were put in place, brokers hired people to wait in line.  i once saw a ticket broker running the machine at a detroit store for a david bowie show.  eventually, the store owner lost his terminal because ticketmaster caught on to what was going on...
 
 the only way to curb ticket brokering would be require them to be licensed and to only charge up to a fixed percentage on the ticket.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: chokeychicken on February 20, 2006, 10:06:00 am
kosmo, you're really out of your league on this one.  i'm not sure how many ticket brokers you know, but that software really doesn't exist.  there are maybe 3 or 4 individuals who have that kind of technology, and that's because they paid tens of thousands of dollars to have it specially made, and they don't distrubte it for obvious reasons.  brokers don't have special software.  like i said, the only advantage they really have is that they know how ticketmaster, tickets.com, and everything works.  they know how to go navigate the site quickly and efficiently.  they know most of the words that might come up, and can key them in quicker.  they know when to refresh so the page comes up quicker.  they know that stuff.  they do it every single day.
 
 it really irks me when people talk about brokers like they're some kind of child pornographer.  ticket brokers are doing nothing but providing a service, and they're skilled at it, or it wouldn't piss you off that they got tickets and you didn't.  they don't have anymore of an advantage than you do, because getting good tickets is 99% luck, believe it or not.  t hat luck just falls in their lap more than it falls in yours because they do it every day and you do it a few times a year.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 20, 2006, 11:12:00 am
geez it must be really tough to write a program which generates a gizillion "word" combiniations in secs... guess ticket brokers must all be using pentinum iii's to buy tickets and not fancy multiprocessing unix boxes.  :roll:
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: chokeychicken on February 20, 2006, 11:38:00 am
well kosmo, since you're obviously talented enough to do it, why don't you write one?  There are tons of brokers out there willing to buy it from you for a few grand.  easy money, apparently.
Title: Re: FF / DCFC at DAR
Post by: jamh on February 20, 2006, 04:28:00 pm
I think brokers would be great if I waited till say, the day before the concert and needed tickets, but when the ticket brokers are selling 250 tickets for a show that sold out as fast as this, they are not providing me with a service, and they're not helping.
 
 I don't know about any of you, but at one point I had two browsers open, and I was searching as fast as one person could.  Not only that, but I started seeing the words repeat.  What that means to me is that they have first, a limited word selection, it's not generated, so given a day with the site I could have probably 90% of the words they use.  Second, they have a limited amount of transformations to the words, so it is possible to have a very intelligent brute force attack.
 
 Security is tough kiddos.  I don't know if that's what they did, but it is possible.