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Title: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: on November 12, 2003, 10:52:00 am
Note:  Seeing there are some new members(fresh meat) afloat, it's heigh time for Señor Dµpek to trot out his tasteless bag of tricks, a la "dog & pony show"-style.  So here it is:
 
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 Who are your top 5 favorite drummers?
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 Extra credit: Why are they your favorites? (Justify your love)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Bags on November 12, 2003, 10:59:00 am
Dave Grohl.  Why?  His drumming electrified Queens of the Stone Age, and he was in Nirvana.
 
 Janet Weiss.  See Sleater-Kinney live, and you'll know why.
 
 Brian Rosenworcel.  It's not like Guster's my favorite band, but the guy plays with his hands!  He makes the band, in my opinion.
 
 John Bonham.  You don't really need a reason, do you.
 
 Four's all I can come up with.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on November 12, 2003, 11:06:00 am
The guy from the Bigger Lovers who played with the Pernice Brothers is quite good. Probably better than their normal drummer, who also drums for the Sadies.
 
 I think we noticed some band whose drummer was better than the rest of the band, but can't remember who.
 
 A lot of the best shows I've been to were by bands who didn't have drummers.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: MindCage on November 12, 2003, 11:28:00 am
Danny Carey - (Tool) Just amazing especially when they do odd time.
 
 Jean Paul Ganster - (Clutch) Just go see them live. It's all about the drummer! Reminds me a lot like John Bonham only tighter
 
 John Bonham - (Led Zep) One of my main influences as a drummer when I was younger.
 
 Neil Peart - (Rush) The Professor. Have you ever seen what his drum heads look like? Anyone that can play like him and have markings the size of quarters where his stick hits constantly deserves to be on anyone's list  :)
 
 Greg Bisonette (Studio drummer/Joe Satriani) - Anyone that can keep up with Satch on guitar and has put up playing with Dave Lee Roth has got to be a good guy right?  ;)  
 
 I could list more but those are probably the top five followed with Keith Moon of The Who right in there too.
 
 MindCage
 Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
 Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: sonickteam2 on November 12, 2003, 11:33:00 am
Neil Peart
 
 John Bonham
 
 Lars Ulrich (just shut up, he's good)
 
 David Leach
 
 Mickey Hart
 
 
   not that i like all of these guys' bands, but they are amazing drummers nonetheless.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Barcelona on November 12, 2003, 11:36:00 am
Keith Moon - The Who
 
 Do we really need to justify this?
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on November 12, 2003, 11:36:00 am
How about Jason Bohnam?
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: ggw on November 12, 2003, 11:45:00 am
Best drummer I've seen recently is a guy named Earl Harvin, who played with Richard Thompson at the club this summer.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Moon Mullen on November 12, 2003, 11:49:00 am
Faves:
 
 Stewart Copeland
 Bill Bruford
 John Bonham
 Dave Grohl
 Neil Peart
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Sir HC on November 12, 2003, 12:00:00 pm
The drummer for Lake Trout.  See them live as this guy is amazing.  He can do a convoluted techno rhythm live.  Great dynamics, just wow.
 
 The drummer for the Dust Devils album "Struggling electric and chemical".  I think it is either someone named Reed or Gerald Crosley.  On this album, the drums are powerful, complex, and fit the songs perfectly.  They propel the songs forward.
 
 Keith Moon.  Insane drumming.  He had speed and a great sloppy precision.  Also famous for many non-drumming things such as hotel trashing, kit trashing, and just being trashed.  
 
 Bill Ward, Black Sabbath.  Heavy drumming.  Great beats, classic.
 
 Martin Atkins.  He has pounded the skins for many great bands including Ministry, PiL, Killing Joke, and Pigface.  Just listen to PiL's Flowers of Romance, the drums carry the whole thing.
 
 I would say John Bonham but I have heard his drumming more through the Beastie Boys than from Led Zepplin.  I know they are concidered a great band, but I never got too into them.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Celeste on November 12, 2003, 12:07:00 pm
one of them's gotta be the guy from Mates of State (Jason Hammel)...he is half the band, afterall...
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: sonickteam2 on November 12, 2003, 12:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  one of them's gotta be the guy from Mates of State (Jason Hammel)...he is half the band, afterall...
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Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Celeste on November 12, 2003, 12:22:00 pm
wouldn't YOU like to NO
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Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Guiny on November 12, 2003, 12:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  Neil Peart
 
 John Bonham
 
 Lars Ulrich (just shut up, he's good)
 
 David Leach
 
 Mickey Hart
 
 
 Agreed about Lars, just cause he's a baby when it comes to Napster doesnt mean he isnt a great drummer.
 
 
   not that i like all of these guys' bands, but they are amazing drummers nonetheless.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: sonickteam2 on November 12, 2003, 12:24:00 pm
is that a picture of you and rhett?
 
 
  i dont get it
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: MindCage on November 12, 2003, 12:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
 
 Martin Atkins.  He has pounded the skins for many great bands including Ministry, PiL, Killing Joke, and Pigface.  Just listen to PiL's Flowers of Romance, the drums carry the whole thing.
Are you going to come see Pigface on Thursday?
 
 MindCage
 Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
 Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 12, 2003, 12:44:00 pm
janet weiss--as noted above, see them live and you'll understand.  extra points for being in two awesome bands, neither of which has a bass player
 
 ?uestlove (the roots)--phenomenal live performer, although holds back on the studio offerings
 
 grant hart (husker du)--the husker records really hit you over the head, and influenced many that followed.  i always thought that hart's drumming gave them the edge over some of their contemporaries
 
 damon che (don cabellero)--awesome at what he does, which is be completely nuts.  also, one of the local heros growing up
 
 murph (dinosaur jr/lemonheads)--mostly because of the abuse he took working for two big ole jerks.  also, he was pretty cool partying with us in college.  dinosaur jr is also an all-time fav.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: tooms on November 12, 2003, 01:11:00 pm
In no particular order:
 
 Keith Moon--did anyone really play drums any better?  Watch videos him play and it looks like he's totally out of beat, and yet it worked.  He did rhythms with one hand that some people can't do with two.
 
 John Bonham--the king of the heavy metal beat.
 
 Charlie Watts--I'm including him mainly b/c so many drummers site him as an influence.  He is not flashy, but he never misses a beat and seems to be a great fundamental drummer.  it's not all about flash, it's about keeping the beat.
 
 Mickey Hart/Bill Kreutzman (of the Grateful Dead)---I'm cheating a little by putting them together, but the two of them do things and make sounds with the drums that few others else have done, at least in the rock and roll world.
 
 Neal Peart--sometimes he sounds like two guys playing.
 
 Honorable mention:  Lars Ulrich (great talent), Dave Grohl (he basically plays one style, but does it well--could fill in for Bonham in Zeppelin ever reforms), Jon Fishman (from Phish--the guy can play any type of music thrown at him, he sounds like two people playing also), Tommy Lee (yeah, he's nuts and makes internet videos, but he nails the tubs), and the guys from Rusted Root (there's three of them and they each play different types of percussion, some only with their hands---wild stuff).
 
 There's probably others I'm forgetting...
 
 Bagster, you've got to come up with more than 4, you saw 4 drummers this week alone! ;-)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: G.Love on November 12, 2003, 01:19:00 pm
Stewart Copeland - his syncopations are unsurpassed, intricate beats
 
 Mitch Mitchell - pure energy, plus who else could keep a drugged up Jimi focused?
 
 Lars Urlich - have to agree with the whiney comment, but just listen to "One (Johnny Got His Gun)"
 
 Ringo Starr - personality and charisma, he is a human metronome
 
 Keith Moon - all over the kit, breaking every "rule" of playing drums- I also heard that he could keep an independent beat with each of his four limbs
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 12, 2003, 01:22:00 pm
drummers is for metal or hippies kids.  do guitarist or albums or something to test us "new meat"
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Bags on November 12, 2003, 01:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by tooms:
  In no particular order:
 There's probably others I'm forgetting...
 
 Bagster, you've got to come up with more than 4, you saw 4 drummers this week alone! ;-)
Well, at the Backstage, I can't see the drummer...   :D  
 
 To be honest, I don't always take note of the drummer unless he or she is amazing.  I shoulda included Stewart Copeland, my bad.
 
 And you had to bring up this weekend, as I skipped the Dirtbombs, with TWO drummers!!  SHIT.  You're just tryin' to make me feel bad, tooms!
 
 (Gotta say, two drummers doesn't usually bode well for me; when does it really improve a band's sound?)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: J'Mal on November 12, 2003, 02:09:00 pm
No one mentioned Phil Collins????
 
 Also, along that note, Tommy Thompson, who drummed with Genesis on tour and Powerstation
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: tooms on November 12, 2003, 02:10:00 pm
two drummers doesn't always help if they're playing the same thing--what's the point?  I remember watching a 38 Special video back in my younger days and they drummers played exactly the same thing.  you couldn't even tell there were two drummers.
 
 As much as i would have liked to see the Dirtbombs, the oddest thing there is two bass players along with the two drummers---lots of bottom there.  should make you move...
 
 Bands like the Dead and the Allman Bros. use two drummers well b/c each drummer plays slighly different stuff and compliments the other.
 
 You know Bags, you couldn't see the Wrens drummer but the bass player pointed at you once you got on the bench...
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: tooms on November 12, 2003, 02:12:00 pm
Phil Collins is a good drummer, but he's immediately disqualfied b/c of his solo career...
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Bags on November 12, 2003, 02:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by tooms:
 You know Bags, you couldn't see the Wrens drummer but the bass player pointed at you once you got on the bench...
Yes, it's true.  And last night the cello player at Lyle Lovett kept looking at me and smiling when I "hand danced" (it was at the Warner, and folks stayed sitting).  It was actually a little...too much.     <img src="http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/REDDANCE.JPG" alt=" - " />
 
 But the Wrens "point out" was the best 'cuz it was so enthusiastic!
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: sonickteam2 on November 12, 2003, 02:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by tooms:
  Phil Collins is a good drummer, but he's immediately disqualfied b/c of his solo career...
i love phil collins, but dont know if he was one of the top 5 drummers or not.  su su sudio  :)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: mankie on November 12, 2003, 02:18:00 pm
I thought Ginger Baker was supposed to be the God of all drummers?
 
 What about the dude from Pink Floyd?
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: palahniukkubrick on November 12, 2003, 02:45:00 pm
neil peart of rush
 john bonham of led zeppelin
 keith moon of the who
 dale crover of the melvins
 josh freese of a perfect circle, vandals, etc.  :)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Sailor Ripley on November 12, 2003, 02:55:00 pm
The word "best" is such a difficult term to define and use.  Maybe not the best of all time, but here's a few worth mentioning though:
 
 Steve Shelley - Sonic Youth: the glue that binds it all together
 
 Scott Churilla - Reverend Horton Heat: catch them live and see what I mean
 
 D.J. Bonebrake - X
 
 Matt Cameron - Soundgarden
 
 Jimmy Chamberlin - Smashing Pumkins: just listen to Gish
 
 Billy Conway - Twinemen/Morphine
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on November 12, 2003, 02:55:00 pm
Neil Peart, John Bohnham, blah blah blah. You guys take the magazines you read too seriously.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: twangirl on November 12, 2003, 03:07:00 pm
John Bonham, Ginger Baker, Keith Moon, Charlie Watts, hell yes.
 I second that vote for Earl Harvin, he's fantastic. He has worked with Seal a lot in the past, so I'm hoping he'll be in the house on 12/13.
 Also
 â?¢ Jean Paul Gaster of Clutch--way heavy but coming from a jazz direction, very unique style.  
 â?¢ Mac McNeilly [sp?], the first drummer for the Jesus Lizard always took my breath away.
 â?¢ Dennis Chambers--this man has invisible limbs, what you hear is so much more than what you see him play.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: J'Mal on November 12, 2003, 03:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Neil Peart, John Bohnham, blah blah blah. You guys take the magazines you read too seriously.
Well, Rhett, Merle Haggard's not a drummer.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Jaguär on November 12, 2003, 03:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by MindCage:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Sir HC:
 
 Martin Atkins.  He has pounded the skins for many great bands including Ministry, PiL, Killing Joke, and Pigface.  Just listen to PiL's Flowers of Romance, the drums carry the whole thing.
Are you going to come see Pigface on Thursday?
 
 MindCage
 Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
 Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com) [/b]
Where are they playing?
 
 I almost bought a used Pigface "Fook" CD yesterday but decided againt it thinking they were charging too much for one in a busted up jewel case. Too many other wants too and too limited on funds. I know you know how that goes. If it would have been "Easy Listening", it would have been a harder choice for me.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: MindCage on November 12, 2003, 04:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
 Where are they playing?
 
 I almost bought a used Pigface "Fook" CD yesterday but decided againt it thinking they were charging too much for one in a busted up jewel case. Too many other wants too and too limited on funds. I know you know how that goes. If it would have been "Easy Listening", it would have been a harder choice for me.
They're playing at Nation on Thursday. The line up for Pigface is pretty sweet!
 
 Guenter Schulz and En Esch formerly of KMFDM (now Slick Idiot)
 Jared Louche - Chemlab
 J.S. Clayton - Pitchshifter
 Levi - uh what band hasn't he played for in the industrial genre!!
 
 MindCage
 Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
 Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: G.Love on November 12, 2003, 04:08:00 pm
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  MELODY because she was the hottest cartoon I had ever seen in my early days.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: brennser on November 12, 2003, 04:12:00 pm
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Best drummer I've seen recently is a guy named Earl Harvin, who played with Richard Thompson at the club this summer.  
yeah, he's definitely very good - also played with The The on their most recent album
 
 also concur with the choice of Janet Weiss
 
 I really like the drumming on Therapys first 2 EPs - I think his name was Fyfe but I also think he's left the band
 
 David Narcizo of Throwing Muses is excellent in a very understated way
 
 and Hector Munoz from Alejandro Escovedo's backing band really impressed me at Iota this year
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Jaguär on November 12, 2003, 04:25:00 pm
Not listed my faves here because there are way too many to even remember but two good drummers that have impressed me this year are:
 
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 Lately, I've been more impressed by drummer's who know how to hold back and just play good drums and know when to hit it hard and when not to. Too many of them are more interested in beating the shit out of their kit the entire set instead of adjusting to the various parts of the song. Both of these drummers understood the fine art of hitting their skins and varying their sound.
 
 Special mention:
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Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: broadkat on November 12, 2003, 04:46:00 pm
1) Bill Kuehn from Rainer Maria.  He plays like an
   adhd kid in hyperfocus mood.  i've never ever
   heard a song of his that wasn't SPOT ON. (and you know he's gotta be good if i put him before...
 
 2) Janet Weiss of SK.  Mos' def' (exclamation)!  See Bagster's reason.
 
 3) David Lovering in the Pixies
 
 past that, i dunno.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Shadrach on November 12, 2003, 05:16:00 pm
Jean Paul Gaster - Clutch - Here's a guy who was influenced by Go-Go music, played jazz growing up and now plays drums in one of the best rock groups around.
 
 Ted Parsons - Prong - I don't know if he still plays in a group anymore, but there was a time when he was one of the best metal drummers out there.
 
 Dave Grohl - Nirvana, Tenacious D, Queens of the Stone Age - Need I say more? He brings a driving, relentless drum assault to whatever project he works on.
 
 Don't know her name, but the girl who plays drums for Lenny Kravitz. She's one hell of a drummer and has attitude and style to spare.
 
 Sean Kinney - Alice In Chains - Not too flashy and doesn't always try to add the over-the-top fill. Just a tight fit into the band who brought that extra something that made them sound great.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: ggw on November 12, 2003, 05:20:00 pm
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
 Ted Parsons - Prong - I don't know if he still plays in a group anymore, but there was a time when he was one of the best metal drummers out there.
 
Currently he's the touring drummer for Killing Joke, I believe.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Liberte on November 12, 2003, 05:39:00 pm
1.  Airto Moreira
 2.  All those other guys
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Bombay Chutney on November 12, 2003, 05:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by Liberte:
  1.  Airto Moreira
 2.  All those other guys
hmmmm - well, if you're gonna go there, I'd add Babatunde Olatunji and Zakir Hussain.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Mobius on November 12, 2003, 05:57:00 pm
Some already menitioned: John Bonham, Dave Grohl
 
 And I'll add:
 
 Reni- Stone Roses (!)
 Colm O' Ciosiog (sic?)- My Bloody Valentine (!)
 Stephen Perkins-  Jane's Addiction
 
 There's a feel in the drumming on the Stone Roses and Loveless that's just awesome.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Bags on November 12, 2003, 06:37:00 pm
Hmm, picked up the touring skins for Grohl's album appearance.    :D  
 
 
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
 Ted Parsons - Prong - I don't know if he still plays in a group anymore, but there was a time when he was one of the best metal drummers out there.
 
Currently he's the touring drummer for Killing Joke, I believe. [/b]
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: on November 12, 2003, 07:07:00 pm
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Originally posted by Sailor Ripley:
  The word "best" is such a difficult term to define and use.
That's why I used the word, "Fave",you Funk & Wagnel, you.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Sailor Ripley on November 12, 2003, 08:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Sailor Ripley:
  The word "best" is such a difficult term to define and use.
That's why I used the word, "Fave",you Funk & Wagnel, you. [/b]
Yeah, well I'm slow like that.  But the same also goes for "Fave". You'll also notice I listed 6 drummers, not 5.  I have a hard time counting too.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: walkman on November 12, 2003, 08:45:00 pm
Mick Harris, of Napalm Death.
 
 Colm O'Ciosoig, MBV.  Cause he's got a cool name.
 
 Loz Colbert, Ride.  See above.
 
 Chris Frantz, Talking Heads.  A white boy, playing that funky music.
 
 Hugo Burnham, Gang of Four.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: eltee on November 12, 2003, 09:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
  Who are your top 5 favorite drummers?
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 Extra credit: Why are they your favorites? (Justify your love)
wow, like, mindlink.
 Today, coming home from a show in Philly, I was just thinking of "best drummers" as a new topic for the forum ("White Stripes" came on the radio, and I wondered what you guys thought of her...). List will on the way.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Liberte on November 12, 2003, 10:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by Skeeter:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Liberte:
  1.  Airto Moreira
 2.  All those other guys
hmmmm - well, if you're gonna go there, I'd add Babatunde Olatunji and Zakir Hussain. [/b]
Fine choices (and mates with Airto in Micky Hart's Planet Drum).  If one of the reasons to be on this board is expanding your musical horizons, and these names don't ring a bell, you have a treat in store checking them out.  Besides Micky Hart, Airto has played with Santana, Paul Simon, Chicago, and Smashing Pumpkins as well as everybody who's anybody in Jazz.  He rawks, besides doing that Worldbeat/Jazz thing.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: ratioci nation on November 13, 2003, 01:10:00 am
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Originally posted by El Tee:
 ("White Stripes" came on the radio, and I wondered what you guys thought of her...).
worst live drummer I have ever heard, put me off the band for a good year after the show, of course I know a lot of people think I am nuts for saying it
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: ggw on November 13, 2003, 01:22:00 am
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Originally posted by pollard:
   
Quote
Originally posted by El Tee:
 ("White Stripes" came on the radio, and I wondered what you guys thought of her...).
worst live drummer I have ever heard, put me off the band for a good year after the show, of course I know a lot of people think I am nuts for saying it [/b]
I don't think you're nuts -- at least not for holding that opinion.  
 
 Meg White is certainly no brilliant drummer.  But is the measure of a good drummer the technical prowess that they hold?  Or, is it how well the drummer fits the role they play in the band?  If it's the latter (and I personally believe it is), then Meg White is a good drummer.  Her ham-fisted, simplistic banging is the appropriate counterpoint for Jack's frenetic blues-punk guitar playing.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: ratioci nation on November 13, 2003, 01:38:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  I don't think you're nuts -- at least not for holding that opinion.  
 
 Meg White is certainly no brilliant drummer.  But is the measure of a good drummer the technical prowess that they hold?  Or, is it how well the drummer fits the role they play in the band?  If it's the latter (and I personally believe it is), then Meg White is a good drummer.  Her ham-fisted, simplistic banging is the appropriate counterpoint for Jack's frenetic blues-punk guitar playing.
well what sealed the deal for me was the song Jimmy the Exploder, I won't forget because I remember how horrid it sounded at the show and went home and listened to the actual song, it starts with her playing a beat on the rim of the snare, it actually is a beat in the album version, live it was a bunch of random banging, I don't want live shows to sound exactly like the album, but actually a variation of the same song does not hurt, that being said, I have learned to like the albums again
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: J'Mal on November 13, 2003, 01:40:00 am
They both suck.  Meg's sloppy clunking fits well with Jack's inability to play his instrument.
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 Another good drummer....
 
 Phil Levitt, Dada.  A band whose prodigious talent, sound, songwriting prowess and (sadly)acclaim are all inversely proportional to those of the meg and jack noise show.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: thatguy on November 13, 2003, 03:19:00 am
one that hasn't been mentioned so far:  travis barker (blink 182, boxcar racer, the transplants).  whether you like the bands or not, he's got skills.  i spent the entire blink show just listening to him.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Shadrach on November 13, 2003, 04:01:00 am
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Originally posted by thatguy:
  one that hasn't been mentioned so far:  travis barker (blink 182, boxcar racer, the transplants).  whether you like the bands or not, he's got skills.  i spent the entire blink show just listening to him.
Of course you were listening to him, because the rest of the band sucks ass live. Honestly one of the worst live acts ever.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: on November 13, 2003, 07:43:00 am
Alan Myers.  I restate the original argument fave v. best, the best drummer ever being, of course, Pete Best.
 
 The vid for Satisfaction, Myers-as-robot metronome. He moved so little, other than to play.  No showboat twirling stick tactics.  Purity of essence.  Precision.
 
 Peace on earth.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: chills on November 13, 2003, 08:48:00 am
Dave Lombardo
 
 Lars (remember seeing them live years ago; while the band was doing their guitar and bass solos, he was behind the stage puffing from an oxygen tank to catch his breath...at least, i think it was an oxygen tank)
 
 Moe Tucker
 
 Neil Peart, I guess, at least that is what I used to think 15 years ago.  I haven't listened to Rush much since.
 
 My fifth can be a composite of the world's computer nerds who program kickin' drum tracks.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: FrankY on November 13, 2003, 12:50:00 pm
- Mike Portnoy  (DreamTheater, Transatlantic,  
  OSI,others) He just Rulz.
 
 - Dave Abruzzeze  (Ex-Pearl Jam, Green R. Orchestra) Dude, nothing to say...kick ass
 
 - Dave Weckl  (Dave W. Band)
 
 - Danny Carey (Tool)
 
 - Travis( blink 182) fast and cool
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: bearman🐻 on November 13, 2003, 01:46:00 pm
I will second that Travis from Blink 182 is one of the best drummers around today. He has even admitted that being in Blink is keeping him back from his talents...that guy can play any style of music, from bossanova to salsa to blues to obviously punk. My hat goes off to him.
 
 However, my favorite drummers of all time...
 
 5) Grant Hart -- Husker Du
 4) Keith Moon -- The Who
 3) Steve Morris -- Joy Division/New Order
 2) Moe Tucker -- The Velvet Underground
 1) John Maher -- The Buzzcocks
 
 Honorable mentions: Tommy Ramone, Mike Joyce of the Smiths, John Bonham (he is still amazing no matter what), Anthony Koutsos of the Red House Painters, Dave Grohl, Todd Trainer of Shellac, Chuck Bisquits of DOA and Social D, Scott Asheton of the Stooges, Reni of the Stone Roses.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: MindCage on November 13, 2003, 05:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
 Another good drummer....
 
 Phil Levitt, Dada.  A band whose prodigious talent, sound, songwriting prowess and (sadly)acclaim are all inversely proportional to those of the meg and jack noise show.
I never gave it much though actually, but you're right! I think Phil's drumming is over-shadowed by Mike's guitar work which is amazing!
 
 I missed all 3 shows in Oct  :(
 
 MindCage
 Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
 Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: J'Mal on November 13, 2003, 05:38:00 pm
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Originally posted by MindCage:
   
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
 [qb]Another good drummer....
 
 Phil Levitt, Dada.  A band whose prodigious talent, sound, songwriting prowess and (sadly)acclaim are all inversely proportional to those of the meg and jack noise show. [/b]
I never gave it much though actually, but you're right! I think Phil's drumming is over-shadowed by Mike's guitar work which is amazing!
 
 I missed all 3 shows in Oct    :(  
 
 MindCage
 
Got the setlist from the State Theater show (yes they did "Bob the Drummer!")  It was awesome.  If there were lists of the most underrated bands and performers, each of them would make it, and obviously, the band.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: swell on November 13, 2003, 06:44:00 pm
<img src="http://www.foofighters.com/blackbox/pictures/2001_01_13_rio/thumbnails/dave06.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
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Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Bags on November 13, 2003, 06:46:00 pm
you  ARE swell!
 
 
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Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: MindCage on November 14, 2003, 10:34:00 am
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
 Got the setlist from the State Theater show (yes they did "Bob the Drummer!")  It was awesome.  If there were lists of the most underrated bands and performers, each of them would make it, and obviously, the band.
They played that at Recher when I saw them in I think July on a Sunday night. They played for over 2 hours too!  :)
 
 "I took a trip with my dad..."
 
 MindCage
 Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
 Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: ruthann on November 14, 2003, 07:12:00 pm
Tooms wrote:
 Keith Moon--did anyone really play drums any better? Watch videos him play and it looks like he's totally out of beat, and yet it worked. He did rhythms with one hand that some people can't do with two.
 
 I don't know how to get the above excerpt to appear the way I've seen others.
 
 Anyway, in the video called (I think)"The who: maximum R&B" Moon is singing his "Bell boy" part, keeping the beat with one hand, & trying to keep his headphones from falling off with the other hand. I thought, "Wow. He's still got it together." Still my fave drummer.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: ruthann on November 14, 2003, 07:22:00 pm
So yeah, top drummers from probably the newest, uhhh, meat. Maybe my 5th post. Wooohooo.
 
 Keith Moon. What more to say. Amazing. Distinctive "rolling" sound if that makes any sense to anyone but me.
 
 Phil Collins (yeah, THAT Phil Collins. Quit laughing, ya turds!)
 
 I also really like the guy who drums in The Bloodthirsty Lovers. Complex rhythmsthat you really don't expect. Someone after a gig asked him if he studied jazz. He didn't.
 
 Kevin March, currently with GbV. Always on everytime I've seen them. (Going to Cleveland Sunday for GbV.)
 
 The guy who drummed for Richard Thompson during his tour this year. Visually interesting to watch as well.
 
 Magee, who played drums in a band I was in during the 80's.  :)   Magee had "parts" for christ sakes.
 
 I also like the guy who plays in Rainer Maria. He's a hell of a cymbol crasher, & he's relentless. It really works with that band.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: slappy on November 15, 2003, 04:50:00 am
No one's mentioned 'The world's most sampled drummer'
 Clyde Stubblefield, 'The Funky Drummer', with James Brown.
 
 Melvin Parker and Jabo Starks were equally as good with JB.
 
 The drummer for Pylon, Curtis Crowe, had an excellent sound. He and Grant Hart would be my faves.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: on November 15, 2003, 10:14:00 am
Are you Ikarus? The reason I ask is because of the similar posting times.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: poguemahone on November 15, 2003, 10:33:00 am
My Faves:
 
 Neil Peart-Best Percussionist out there.
 Dave Grohl-His work on QOTSA and Killing Joke is fantastic!
 George Hurley-From the Minutemen-kept a great rythym section with Watt.
 Matt Cameron-His SG era was his best.
 Marky Ramone...well I like the Ramones...
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: RatBastard on November 17, 2003, 02:16:00 am
Stewart Copeland
 Jason Mackenroth
 Buddy Rich
 Morgan Rose
 A Player to be Named Later
 
 (Anyone BUT Ringo Starr!)
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: Sir HC on November 17, 2003, 10:20:00 am
Remember at one time Phil Collins was cool.  He played drums on much of Brian Eno's early solo work.
Title: Re: Top Five Fave Drummers
Post by: on November 17, 2003, 10:26:00 am
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
  Remember at one time Phil Collins was cool.  He played drums on much of Brian Eno's early solo work.
As well as with Brand-X (http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/brand_x/bio.jhtml).