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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Barcelona on September 11, 2003, 07:41:00 pm
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I was inclined to see how the Dandy Warhols sound like, but after reading in the 9:30 email that “as their album art suggests, The Dandys have stripped their Velvet Underground-fuzz in favor of Duran Duran-inspired electronics” I freaked out and had to rethink going to this show. I must apologize for my musical ignorance, but if they have something in common with Duran Duran, then I can’t go. The other option now is to see The Clientele (there’s an article on them on the Citypaper) at IOTA. They might be too quiet, though.
Any recommendation, should we reconsider and maybe try the Dandy Warhols? Or should we just try The Clientele?
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well I dont know anything about the clientele, but I will think you are crazy if you dont go to the dandies. Apparently they dont play a lot of songs off the new album.
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The other day I heard a few Dandy Warhols' songs on the internet. I thought the ones from the latest cd were nothing special. On the other side, the couple I heard from previous albums were good. As for the Clientele, I had never heard about them, but it looks they are a new and very decent band from England. You may hate to make these comparisons, but if you had to compare the Dandy Warhols to other bands, to whom you would compare them?
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Have you taken lessons on how to be annoying from Rhett.
Its hard to compare them to other bands because of their recent style change. The first three albums could be compared to brian jonestown massacre, which is the essence of the very best psychadelic rolling stones.
But that is to sell both BJM and the DWs short. The dandies have some fine pop songs. Real first rate, make my want to jump up and down like a crazy person.
But enough of my gushing praise.....
Go here:
and listen to the two new tracks, then bohemian like you then godless. Listen to them four times each. If you dont think they are all fantastic, dont bother going to see any concerts ever again as you probably do not like music very much (http://www.dandywarhols.com/sounds.htm)
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I agree entirely with Markie, re: those four songs. And er, yes, the new stuff is pretty much VU meets Duran Duran. In fact, Nick Rhodes produced the whole record. If you cannot possibly enjoy the idea of handclapping, ass shaking 80s pop joining forces with 60's psych, then don't go. It's not that they'll play all that much new stuff, it's just that the crowd's more fun if everyone dances.
But, to be perfectly honest, the Clientele are an excellent band. I love the latest record, and, were it any band other than the Dandys playing tomorrow, I'd absolutely be at IOTA. So it's a pretty tough choice.
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I would choosed the british band over the american band anyday. plus, seeing a show at iota beats seeing a show at 9:20 club and day. I've heard the clientele on the radio, and they're not as "quiet" as the CP would have you to believe. See them now at Iota. All fo the boardies will be raving about them in three months.
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I thought it was Velvet Underground meets Nine Inch Nails (lite). I've listened to their new stuff repeatedly now, and unlike their previous albums which stuck with me, not a whole lot of this is sticking. Still, I expect the show will be great nonetheless.
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Tough choice. I'll decide later today. In case anyone wants to listen to the Clientele, you can do so here:
http://www.mergerecords.com/bands/clientele/bio.html (http://www.mergerecords.com/bands/clientele/bio.html)
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Last time the Dandy Warhols came through DC was three years ago, if that factors into your decision.
Here's a set-list from a recent show.
Set 1:
Be-in
Mohammed
Cool as Kim Deal
Shakin'
Horse Pills
Solid
Last Junkie
Loose (Iggy Pop)
You were the Last High
We Used to Be Friends
Edmund Fitzgerald (Gordon Lightfoot)
Intermission-
Set 2:
Everyday should be a Holiday (stripped down version; distortion free; no keyboard)
Godless
Minnesoter
Hells Bells (AC/DC)
Genius
Good Morning
Boys Better
I love you
Lou Weed
You come in burned
Green
Bohemian like you (played it twice - back to back)
Get off
Last Time (Rolling Stones)
Encore - Country Leaver
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i am totally way excited to see the Dandies tonight! i work in Baltimore until 9 freak 30 though, so i may not catch the whole show...but i will be haulin ass down there asap when i get off.
looks like they may play for quite a while!
and i like the new record!
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Having just listened to those tracks by the Clientele and listened to the shit that is the Dandy Warhols last week....there's no decision to be made...Clientele all the way
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Originally posted by mankie:
Having just listened to those tracks by the Clientele and listened to the shit that is the Dandy Warhols last week....there's no decision to be made...Clientele all the way
awwwww..but i wanted to meet the mankie!! shucks.
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*cough* *cough*
there is also metropolitan at the warehouse too if you need a third option.
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Definitely seeing The Clientele.
I've seen the Dandys before and was unimpressed.
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Any idea how close we are to a sold out show at the 9:30? Still deciding where to go.
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so what did everyone think?
Thanks for the CDS Sparx (and Jackie), it was nice to meet you. GGW I have Sparx CD for you.
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They started out pretty tentatively, and I thought, "Uh oh. This may be a mess." But then about 2/3 of the way through the first half, they all just clicked in, and it went from being a pretty good show to a great show. I think they hit their stride with We Used to be Friends and were really excellent from then on. Highlights for me were Genius, Solid, Good Morning and Ride. I had such a good spot in front of the stage, so I was privilege to the full force of Courtney playing the drums. (great song -what was that?) They didn't follow their set list at all. The band was taking their cues from Courtney, and in a couple of songs, he had a quick discussion with the drummer and they changed the intros.
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So I finally went to see the Dandy Warhols at the 9:30. Big mistake. I left after a few songs. I thought they were terrible. If at least they had had an opening band, maybe that could have fixed things a little bit. With Guided by Voices at the 9:30 a couple of years ago, the worst show I have been in DC.
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
I left after a few songs. I thought they were terrible..
Shit, sorry Barcelona, I really thought you would have liked it.
Well I like the extremes of posativity and negativity on the board this morning. I can understand Kurosawa's well reasoned appreciation, even if I think she is crazy for liking the Courtney on drums bit.
Barcelona, why didnt you like the show, other than saying it was really bad, you just say it was really bad. What was so bad about it in your opinion?
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I thought it was highly disappointing (I was very excited for it). Who would have thought the crowd and band could be so limp for songs like Bohemian, Solid, Horse Pills, Last Junkie and We Used to Be Friends. Maybe the volume had to be turned way up. The first (and only?) time the band seemed to have any energy was during Minnesoter. The sound was fine, they played their instruments fine, but they managed to make great songs pretty average. And actually, Driving Rave Up was the perfect way to finish, just put me in the mood to leave.
Oh and thanks for the CD Sparks, started listening to it, it is great.
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Well, I thought the show SUCKED. It was just horrible.
OK, actually, i didint get in because i didnt get there until 10pm and it was sold out. Drove all that way in the rain. Bastard. The will call line was off the hook and i guess people still eat those service charges like they're going out of style. hope everyone had fun!
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
(great song -what was that?)
You Come In Burned
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Though there were sound problems here and there, I really liked the show. Something about that band, I've found that people either love them or hate them. Obviously, I'm one of those who love them. They have that excited yet relaxed Velvet Underground sound that I've always loved. The band themselves seemed very tight. It's just the sound that was off at times. Way too much bottom on Bohemian Like Me.
Don't know if anyone else noticed or not, but when they started playing Last High (one of my favorite songs) Zia lit up a rolled cigarette. At first I thought that it was a joint but I never got a whiff of anything but tobacco, which I got way too much of all night with the damned chain smokers around me and packed up front of the stage. At least I only had 2 people in front of me and they were both very short women. :D I ended up with a great view!
Yes Sparx, it was great meeting you. Sorry you and the guys couldn't stay longer. Oh, and thankx! ;)
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Loved it. Managed to squeeze my way up to the front (the benefits of no-arse), just in time for We Used To Be Friends. Agree with Kurosawa that from that point on, the show really took off. Definitely not a night for someone new to the band â?? I attribute some of the crowd's lack of energy to having only heard Bohemian. But it didn't really bother me...I was way too busy enjoying myself. As it were.
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Jaguär, you should've said hi ;)
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
Jaguär, you should've said hi ;)
Okay Doomie, who the fuck are you? ;)
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The Dandy Warhols At the 9:30 Club
At the 9:30 club on Friday night, the Dandy Warhols were the epitome of cocky rock-star swagger. Throughout the evening the Portland dream-pop quartet's frontman, Courtney Taylor-Taylor, kept his lips fixed in a smirking Mick Jagger pucker. Next to him, keyboardist and singer Zia McCabe swayed the night away with a confident sensuality, often with her eyes closed and a maraca or tambourine swinging languidly in her hand. Asking at one point for a sound system adjustment, Taylor-Taylor explained, "I can't hear anything except the drums and me. Which is not bad. I'm pretty good!" All this self-assurance led to a wildly uneven show, a nearly three-hour epic that was at turns mesmerizing and soporific, intoxicating and irritating. At their best, the Dandy Warhols created a decadent, blissed-out sound built around surging bass lines, swirling guitars and Taylor-Taylor's ever-sultry vocals. Several songs like "Be In," "Godless," "Solid" and their sassy new single, "We Used to Be Friends," hit this mark solidly.
At other times the Dandys seemed to confuse self-assurance with self-indulgence. Several tunes dragged on endlessly, detouring into tedious ambient jams of floating guitars and trippy electronic effects. These stretches apparently strove for hypnosis, but mainly achieved boredom. (During one such lull, a fan wondered if guitarist Pete Holmstrom, mysteriously fiddling with an onstage computer, was secretly checking his e-mail.) One suspects the blame for this lack of discipline lies with Taylor-Taylor, who rambled variously about the deaths of Johnny Cash and John Ritter, and at one point sang a languid version of Duran Duran's "Rio," accompanied by just his guitar. Undisciplined indulgences like these were sometimes charming. But about 30 minutes less of them would have been a lot dandier.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Barcelona:
I left after a few songs. I thought they were terrible..
Shit, sorry Barcelona, I really thought you would have liked it.
Well I like the extremes of posativity and negativity on the board this morning. I can understand Kurosawa's well reasoned appreciation, even if I think she is crazy for liking the Courtney on drums bit.
Barcelona, why didnt you like the show, other than saying it was really bad, you just say it was really bad. What was so bad about it in your opinion? [/b]
No problem, I've always liked this board for this specific reason, you get to know and see new bands. In my case, I've liked most of the bands I've known thanks to the board. In this case, this was an exception, but no problem.
I didn't like (and didn't hear much) the guitars and the voice of the lead singer made me almost fall asleep. I thought the keyboard didn't bring anything special to the music. I was waiting for some sort of psychedelia in their music, but I thought it was an extremely boring and unspecial music. Throughout the show, I thought these guys could learn a lot from Pavement, Sonic Youth, Lou Reed, Pixies, and even the keyboard of Ballboy.
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
I thought these guys could learn a lot from Pavement, Sonic Youth, Lou Reed, Pixies, and even the keyboard of Ballboy.
Ok, I am still on the fence about the show...... I actually align most with the reviewer, which is unusual for me.
The songs really did lack any edge and when they were rocky they really didnt pack much, if any, punch. When I closed my eyes and listened most of it sounded good, even great, but it was more like listening to my hi-fi at home than being at a show. It really didnt help my experience that the crowd were totally lame, from the lack of dancing, that is probably literally lame.
But then godless was really great live.
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personally, i thought the show was excellent. but then, i love the sprawling guitar-effect laden soundscapes. . .and almost 3 hours of it was fantastic. could have done without courtney's take on the drums though. . .and i would have rather heard the album version of "rave up" as opposed to that mish-mash that was played. otherwise, the show was just kept building and building up momentum, until the aforementioned conclusion with rave up, but by then, i was satisfied.
course, i've seen them before (1995 or so) before 20 or so people in san jose, and they were not at all interested in playing that show. compared to that show, they've come a long way and have fully grown into fantastic band on album and live.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The Dandy Warhols At the 9:30 Club
At the 9:30 club on Friday night, the Dandy Warhols were the epitome of cocky rock-star swagger. Throughout the evening the Portland dream-pop quartet's frontman, Courtney Taylor-Taylor, kept his lips fixed in a smirking Mick Jagger pucker. Next to him, keyboardist and singer Zia McCabe swayed the night away with a confident sensuality, often with her eyes closed and a maraca or tambourine swinging languidly in her hand. Asking at one point for a sound system adjustment, Taylor-Taylor explained, "I can't hear anything except the drums and me. Which is not bad. I'm pretty good!"
What was left out of that quote was "... but I'm not that fucking good."
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
All this self-assurance led to a wildly uneven show, a nearly three-hour epic that was at turns mesmerizing and soporific, intoxicating and irritating. At their best, the Dandy Warhols created a decadent, blissed-out sound built around surging bass lines, swirling guitars and Taylor-Taylor's ever-sultry vocals. Several songs like "Be In," "Godless," "Solid" and their sassy new single, "We Used to Be Friends," hit this mark solidly.
At other times the Dandys seemed to confuse self-assurance with self-indulgence. Several tunes dragged on endlessly, detouring into tedious ambient jams of floating guitars and trippy electronic effects. These stretches apparently strove for hypnosis, but mainly achieved boredom. (During one such lull, a fan wondered if guitarist Pete Holmstrom, mysteriously fiddling with an onstage computer, was secretly checking his e-mail.) One suspects the blame for this lack of discipline lies with Taylor-Taylor, who rambled variously about the deaths of Johnny Cash and John Ritter, and at one point sang a languid version of Duran Duran's "Rio," accompanied by just his guitar. Undisciplined indulgences like these were sometimes charming. But about 30 minutes less of them would have been a lot dandier.
Rio was only played because some kook in the crowd requested it. Courtney totally saw the joke in it and even laughed about it. Then he nicely but sarcasticly said, "Just don't call out Freebird or we'll be here all night."
Personally, I liked the drawn out songs but then again, I enjoy music that I can space out to. I don't need a full in your face rocked out experience all the time to musically entertain me. And I danced all night long!
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So I take it the Zia bird didn't play with her tits to the crowd?? wasn't the whole point of watching the dandies play seeing her play tambourine while her tits bounce up and down? glad I didn't go.. looking forward to BRMC on thursday..
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Originally posted by Fico:
So I take it the Zia bird didn't play with her tits to the crowd?? wasn't the whole point of watching the dandies play seeing her play tambourine while her tits bounce up and down? glad I didn't go.. looking forward to BRMC on thursday..
Yes, she played with her tits to the crowd.....but they weren't exposed, and personally, I couldn't care less. Lots of very hot guys onstage though. :D Paige, did you see them? Our kind of guys!
I went for the music, which was good. The scenery was only a bonus.
Yes, and more hot guys to blow us away on Thursday night! :D ....if the hurricane doesn't do it first. :roll:
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
more hot guys to blow us away on Thursday night :roll: [/b]
Shouldn't that be the other way round??
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Jaguär:
more hot guys to blow us away on Thursday night :roll: [/b]
Shouldn't that be the other way round?? [/b]
I was wondering how long it would take you to comment on that one. :roll:
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Yes, women were put here on earth to please men.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Jaguär:
more hot guys to blow us away on Thursday night :roll: [/b]
Shouldn't that be the other way round?? [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Yes, women were put here on earth to please men. Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Jaguär:
more hot guys to blow us away on Thursday night :roll: [/b]
Shouldn't that be the other way round?? [/b]
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And only the ones pleasing the women will be getting any pleasing from us!
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Yes, women were put here on earth to please men.
Then why were they given minds of their own? ;)
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Hey all,just wanted to say it was good to meet a few of you all the other night(Jag,Kurosawa,Jadetree,Markie)where were you GGW?,albeit briefly.Jag,thanks for the disc,I'd heard none of it before.Standouts so far would be the Statistics and BSP but I need to absorb it more.As for the show,I was content with it.They played about everything i wanted to hear,they were all coherent and seemed to be glad to be there.My favorite had to be their psychedelic cover of the Stooges Loose,wasn't expecting that.It was easily the most subdued I've seen them but I'll take that anyday as long as they got the tunes right and I didn't notice many mistakes,and they clocked in at about 3 hours,don't get that much from anybody these days.Well worth the price of admission..Hope you guys enjoy the discs I burned and maybe you even found something new to your liking.Hopefully next time I can stick around to shoot the breeze,but my ride had to be back home for work,we got back about 530 am.Damn rain!Anybody going to B/more for BJM?Kurosawa,i also dug courtney on You come in Burned,one of my faves from the new disc that I didn't expect to hear.So,anything stand out on the discs you all got?
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I just noticed an addendum to my inquiry regarding recording the show.Unfortunately I didn't get the update.Did anybody record it?I have a vault of boots. i'd gladly trade anyone who recorded the show.Thanks!
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yOU JUST HAVE TO FIND THE ONE'S WITHOUT MINDS. START OFF BY DATING A FEW MAXIM MODELS AND TAKE IT FROM TEHRE.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Yes, women were put here on earth to please men.
Then why were they given minds of their own? ;) [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
yOU JUST HAVE TO FIND THE ONE'S WITHOUT MINDS. START OFF BY DATING A FEW MAXIM MODELS AND TAKE IT FROM TEHRE.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Yes, women were put here on earth to please men.
Then why were they given minds of their own? ;) [/b]
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Or trannies, since they are really only men. :p
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Originally posted by SPARX:
I just noticed an addendum to my inquiry regarding recording the show.Unfortunately I didn't get the update.Did anybody record it?I have a vault of boots. i'd gladly trade anyone who recorded the show.Thanks!
Anbody? (sigh)
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by SPARX:
I just noticed an addendum to my inquiry regarding recording the show.Unfortunately I didn't get the update.Did anybody record it?I have a vault of boots. i'd gladly trade anyone who recorded the show.Thanks!
Anbody? (sigh) [/b]
Not an easy thing to do at the 9:30 Club. But be patient. The board is very slow today.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Oh and thanks for the CD Sparks, started listening to it, it is great.
You"re welcome.That's Nicholai from the Strokes muckin up the begining with all the banter.I had him record it for me from the merch booth,turned out good other than that.They were fairly unknown at the time and were peddling their now coveted Modern Age EP.FYI-Strokes got their start when Bob Pollard picked up their demo that they threw onstage during a GBV appearance,Bob dug it and asked them to open the Black
Cat and some other shows from that tour.The rest, as they say is history.Look at the monster they have become :eek:
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Originally posted by SPARX:
You"re welcome.That's Nicholai from the Strokes muckin up the begining with all the banter.I had him record it for me from the merch booth,turned out good other than that.They were fairly unknown at the time and were peddling their now coveted Modern Age EP.FYI-Strokes got their start when Bob Pollard picked up their demo that they threw onstage during a GBV appearance,Bob dug it and asked them to open the Black
Cat and some other shows from that tour.The rest, as they say is history.Look at the monster they have become :eek:
while it is fun to hear, Julian of the strokes sounds awful singing glad girls with Bob, gut I have never liked that song anyway
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Originally posted by jadetree:
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while it is fun to hear, Julian of the strokes sounds awful singing glad girls with Bob, but I have never liked that song anyway [/QB][/QUOTE] Yep,they were having alot of fun.They were like star struck kids around Bob.
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I just found some pictures from the show
http://www.geocities.com/ana_m3/gbvDC4.html (http://www.geocities.com/ana_m3/gbvDC4.html)
Julian looks even worse than Bob
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Originally posted by jadetree:
I just found some pictures from the show
http://www.geocities.com/ana_m3/gbvDC4.html (http://www.geocities.com/ana_m3/gbvDC4.html)
Julian looks even worse than Bob
Looks like he may have have just puked,as pale as he is.Ana does take good pics and is a real nice gal.A pic she took graced the back cover of EQG i do believe.She also had a cameo in the Family Feud video.Boy it sure was cold that night!
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Hey all,just wanted to say it was good to meet a few of you all the other night(Jag,Kurosawa,Jadetree,Markie)where were you GGW?
Sorry. Had to cut out early (like after the first 135 minutes).
I've got the disc if you are going to be at BRMC.
I thought the show was great. Not as good as when they were here in 2000, but still excellent. It did seem to take awhile to get their act together, but once they did, it was good times.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?˘:
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Sorry. Had to cut out early (like after the first 135 minutes).
I've got the disc if you are going to be at BRMC.
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No sweat,I'm sure we'll meet up somwhere down the line.I can't make it to BRMC,work is holding me hostage,and I tried to get out of it,believe me!!Hope you enjoy the Black album. :(