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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: eltee on September 09, 2004, 05:01:00 pm
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GBV roll call was early so here's tomorrow's call...anyone?
I'm probably going. Heading to VL first to see: Vikki Nova, Marcia Brady, Honeychuck, Thebrotherkite
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I'm there. Can't wait after I missed them the last time through.
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I would love to see Coldplay, but i will be going to Canada tomorrow :D
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I would love to see Coldplay
I think you are giving them too much credit ;)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I would love to see Coldplay, but i will be going to Canada tomorrow :(
Whoops, wrong thread, sorry.
Have fun in Canada! Bring me something for my b-day you doodle.
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I love 'em, and I'll be there. Call them whatever you will... ;)
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Me too. Love em that is. Went to the last show after hearing about them on the board and was suprised. Can't wait. Better not sell out bc I'm planning on buying at the door.
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i'm working this show. i'm curious about snow patrol...they sound like the kind of band that can either bore me to tears or pleasantly surprise me.
i seriously doubt this will even come close to selling out.
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Originally posted by snailhook:
i'm working this show. i'm curious about snow patrol...they sound like the kind of band that can either bore me to tears or pleasantly surprise me.
i seriously doubt this will even come close to selling out.
according to eddie in the faq:
"At this juncture it doesn't look like the show will sell out soon but it is selling well so it might be a risk waiting to get them at the door."
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Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Flava:
GBV roll call was early so here's tomorrow's call...anyone?
I'm probably going. Heading to VL first to see: Vikki Nova, Marcia Brady, Honeychuck, Thebrotherkite
Wait a second... thebrotherkite are back in town?? Damn! I really want to see them. But I already have tickets to the Snow Patrol show.
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i should be there. . .
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Flava:
GBV roll call was early so here's tomorrow's call...anyone?
I'm probably going. Heading to VL first to see: Vikki Nova, Marcia Brady, Honeychuck, Thebrotherkite
Wait a second... thebrotherkite are back in town?? Damn! I really want to see them. But I already have tickets to the Snow Patrol show. [/b]
I pulled that info from VL's site. I looked into it and Thebrotherkite's site says they are in MA. I know Honeychuck goes on at 9:30 pm so if Thebrotherkite goes on after you still might be safe to check out Snow Patrol. According to Eddie, at this juncture Snow Patrol should go on at 11:30 pm.
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the velvet lounge are notorious for completely inaccurate schedule listings. i'd be surprised if thebrotherkite came back so soon, especially to the velvet dive.
i'd still be suprised if snow patrol sells out. we'll see.
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Originally posted by snailhook:
the velvet lounge are notorious for completely inaccurate schedule listings. i'd be surprised if thebrotherkite came back so soon, especially to the velvet dive.
i'd still be suprised if snow patrol sells out. we'll see.
thanks for the head's up about VL. I don't think they are playing.
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The last time Snow Patrol played the club they were pretty suprised with the turn out seeing as they had never been to dc. A lot of people also knew the words to some of their songs and at that point they hadn't had too much radio play. But school is back in session so I'm sure a lot of college age kids who dig them will show up.
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We'll be there.
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We'll be there....after watching the US/Finland World Cup of Hockey game. Then we get 6 of sleep before heading to Toronto for the REAL game. :=)
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I will be in attendance along with Lulu.
I like their bland soft-rockiness. I think I am getting old.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
I like their bland soft-rockiness. I think I am getting old.
:( Soft-rockiness I'll take, bland -- no.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Soft-rockiness I'll take, bland -- no.
Jumbled words not coherent sentence make.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Originally posted by Bags:
Soft-rockiness I'll take, bland -- no.
Jumbled words not coherent sentence make. [/b]
But did you understand me?
Okay, I'll admit that they're fairly soft-rock. Bland, though -- I disagree on that assessment.
;)
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I still not sure I understand..... (I had no idea the first time)
Ok, you think they are soft rock, but not bland?
I think I would contend that all soft-rock is bland.
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So, what's the definition on soft rock then? I'd be curious to see how many bands fall into the category.
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http://www.musiccds-dvds.com/soft_rock_cds.htm (http://www.musiccds-dvds.com/soft_rock_cds.htm)
Originally posted by econo:
So, what's the definition on soft rock then? I'd be curious to see how many bands fall into the category.
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From the UK,
Keane
Coldplay
Travis
Snow Patrol
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Too broad, I'm looking for something more along the lines of Gangsta Rap and License to Ill...
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
http://www.musiccds-dvds.com/soft_rock_cds.htm (http://www.musiccds-dvds.com/soft_rock_cds.htm)
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pitchfork review for Keane=2.8
truthful, or further truth that pitchfork is a bunch of idiots?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
pitchfork review for Keane=2.8
truthful, or further truth that pitchfork is a bunch of idiots?
Umm it is very MOR. Really not pitchforks favourite category. I have not given it much of a chance to let it get its hooks in me yet. I bet it does in the way snow Patrol did.
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Me and some of the boys in the Cartel camp will be there...see ya tonight.
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i'll be front and center along with lulu and kurosawa, no doubt.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Originally posted by Bags:
Soft-rockiness I'll take, bland -- no.
Jumbled words not coherent sentence make. [/b]
Oh that's just his thick accent. ;)
It's funny, they really rock out a bit more live than on their most recent album. "Run" is a bit veiled over. Their older albums are heavier in bass and charged guitar. Don't forget they blew a speaker last time they were here! I plan to make Sonick go to their next show and listen to their older cds just to prove it all.
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Originally posted by econo:
So, what's the definition on soft rock then? I'd be curious to see how many bands fall into the category.
When I think of Soft Rock, its the stuff that usually ends up on Lite FM stations. The trend started in the 70s with Chicago, Bread, Neil Diamond, The Carpenters, etc. Continued on with Air Supply, Billy Joel, Christopher Cross.
I think Professor Markie intially incorrectly identified them as a Soft Rock group. MOR much better. Plus MOR groups tend to be where most of the guilty pleasures can be found...
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When I first listened to "Run", I thought it was borderline emo. Allmusic lists them as "Twee Pop" whatever that is. I was hesistant to go see them live and I was pleasantly surprised. I really think it's the production on this album and the diffusers they used when recording.
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Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Flava:
I really think it's the production on this album and the diffusers they used when recording.
No, it has whimpy lyrics....
Makes me want to cry and as I whisper my last good bye, I nearly do.
I dunno, Kosmo, that means soft-rock was only found in the 70's and 80's and came from America? I think snow patrol and coldplay are laying down a new generation of shite that will be played on bland radio in 20 years time...... Kind of like What U2 has been doing the last 15 years.
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I believe Belle and Sebastian are considered Twee. The term's been around for a little while now.
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Flava:
Allmusic lists them as "Twee Pop" whatever that is.
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i will be there.
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Are Snow Patrol on the radio now? If not, then I wouldn't count on them being heard on the radio 20 years from now.
Originally posted by mark e smith:
I think snow patrol and coldplay are laying down a new generation of shite that will be played on bland radio in 20 years time......
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I wouldn't be so sure. There seems to be a fondness these days for 80's music that never got much airplay when it came out.
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Originally posted by econo:
Are Snow Patrol on the radio now? If not, then I wouldn't count on them being heard on the radio 20 years from now.
I guess I think they should be on the radio.... Surely HFS or someone must have played Run...? I dunno I dont listen to regular radio, I guess I am completely out of touch with the mainstream.
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well i didn't research the soft rock thing very far... i just picked the most obvious names listed on allmusic. allmusic also indicates that the soft rock morphed into adult contemporary in the 90s...
just got a steve harley & cockney rebel greatest hits cd and would have to place it in the soft rock category
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
just got a steve harley & cockney rebel greatest hits cd and would have to place it in the soft rock category
I have one of them.....Other than the two good singles I would mostly place it in the shite category. :p
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i was thinking the same thing... luckily it was one of the fye cheapo import castoffs
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Any idea if Snow Patrol is going to sell out tonight? Haven't got my tix yet.
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Originally posted by anastasia:
Any idea if Snow Patrol is going to sell out tonight? Haven't got my tix yet.
Read this. (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007959)
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Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Flava:
Allmusic lists them as "Twee Pop" whatever that is.
sopft rock, MOR, whatever. But twee pop, no friggin' way. That's Camera Obscura, all the way....
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Originally posted by Bags:
\ But twee pop, no friggin' way. That's Camera Obscura, all the way.... [/b]
I agree, or the cardigans first 2 albums or Belle and Sebs last.....
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
There seems to be a fondness these days for 80's music that never got much airplay when it came out.
I know, this shocks me all the time. You can hear Echo & the Bunnymen, The Plimsouls, etc. on 104.1 or some eighties night on Mix 107, but they NEVER played that on the radio back when they were making the music. Not counting alt stations like WLIR....
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
well i didn't research the soft rock thing very far...
WHERE is GGW???
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i'll be there. any thoughts on the opener. they look pretty crap to me but i'm curious to know your thoughts. can't see snow patrol playing more than an hour. which, i won't mind because i have to get up at 6 am drive to back ass pa for a wedding.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
No, it has whimpy lyrics....[/QB]
WIMPY LYRICS?!?!!???
Are you nuts....????
RUN
I'll sing it one last time for you
Then we really have to go
You've been the only thing that's right
In all I've done
And I can barely look at you
But every single time I do
I know we'll make it anywhere
Anyway from here
Light up, light up
As if you have a choice
Even if you cannot hear my voice
I'll be right beside you dear
Louder louder
And we'll run for our lives
I can hardly speak I understand
Why you can't raise your voice to say
To think I might not see those eyes
Makes it so hard not to cry
And as we say our long goodbye
I nearly do
Light up...
Slower slower
We don't have time for that
I just want to find an easier way
To get out of our little heads
Have heart my dear
We're bound to be afraid
Even if it's just for a few days
Making up for all this mess
[Okay, I've had one scotch and water, and am on #2....I know, they're wimpy, I was being sarcastic....]
:D
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HOW is this wimpy???
Grazed Knees
I'm trying not to stare, it's too late
The blankets over there, if you like
I'm broken and I'm colder than hell
I should've said I'd not come back here
Your breakfast will get cold
I really have to go
It's easier to lie and be safe
Time and time again I'm half stalled
One giant leap of faith is easy
When everyone you ask is so sure
Just give a second thought
What if we don't get caught
Just say you love me now
And forget this whole row
Just save your energy
For making up with me
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Originally posted by anastasia:
Any idea if Snow Patrol is going to sell out tonight? Haven't got my tix yet.
Yes, Snow Patrol has sold out. That's why I'm here typing on my computer. oh well.
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Just arrived home after escaping the throngs of college kiddies. First time seeing them and it was a decent enough show but in far last place for the week (behind Scissors Sisters and last night's Siouxsie show). The vocals were stunningly bad (flat, unable to sustain notes for more than a few seconds) for over half the set and I am a big fan of Final Straw. Let's not even discuss the harmonies. All I can say is the voice gods were definitely smiling on the band in the studio when the cut the vocals. The crowd ate it all up but I don't know if I'll catch them live again.
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Originally posted by Shiverintheshadows:
The vocals were stunningly bad (flat, unable to sustain notes for more than a few seconds) for Let's not even discuss the harmonies. All I can say is the voice gods were definitely smiling on the band in the studio when the cut the vocals. The crowd ate it all up but I don't know if I'll catch them live again.
I hear ya. Flat on two of their most popular songs. Guitar playing especially harder stuff was fine...and fun. I thought the same thing about their vocals on the album. I listened to the cd on the way home to see if somehow I missed something - nope not flat. Dunno what happened. Short show. The first time I saw them was much better.
I dug the music that was played after the show. Went to the soundboard and they had their own mix playing. One band was a long name I couldn't understand what the guy behind the board said. The other band is called "Mum". He said something about "Anne Archer"? Anyhow nice enough guy. Wish I had a copy of that traveling mix.
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yup, i too arrived at the door at 10pm ish to a sold out sign. buggery.
we went instead to kingpin, where they seem to find it acceptable to charge $4 for a high life. that's the last time i'll see the inside of that place.
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Not a snow patrol junkie, but my take was that from early on it was evident his voice was not "there".... but that's life on the road. More guitar would have been welcome, but it's not an 80's band, but I did hear more in the album. Energetic, but at times it seemed out of place. Jumping around during a slow tempo song doesn't make you a great live band. All in all, I'll give it a 6 out of 10. Maybe more deserving of a 5, but after the opener scored in the negatives, anything was more welcome. I wouldn't go again soon, but I certainly wasn't turned off.
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I love Final Straw and had a great time at the show. I could not believe that show sold out -- it sold out at precisely 10:25 -- I was there when they put this "sold out" sign on the girl in line who'd get the last ticket. Very funny practice....
I definitely prefer Patrol's more vigorous songs -- "Wow," "Spitting Games," some songs they closed with that must be from the earlier album. I'm kind of surprised "Run" is their 'big hit' -- but.... And I enjoy the thrashing and jumping around. I think they're a quite good live band because they clearly enjoy playing. I am not in to bands that stand there crooning, putting in their time to get the songs out. Gary Lightbody smiles while he sings and he is adorable -- enjoying the show and the crowd. That's big for me....
The band came to DC9 later, and I got to tell Gary that I loved the show, had loved the show last time they came through town with a much smaller crowd and it's great to see that the band really enjoys playing... He was nice. Clearly not in to chatting with fans, though (even though there were only 25ish people upstairs at DC9 -- couldn't have turned in to a swarm even if we tried....).
For me, a good night. Two too many Heinekens, but what the hell. Now it starts all over for Tommy Keene and GBV...(I'll likely say "eight too many Heinekens" tomorrow....)
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as did i. i thought it was kosmo spinning up there only to find out it wasn't. that song that was played right after they left the stage was excellent, and i'veh eard it before but no one knew what it was. markie was very excited that a fiery furnances song was played.
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Flava:.
I dug the music that was played after the show. Went to the soundboard and they had their own mix playing. One band was a long name I couldn't understand what the guy behind the board said. The other band is called "Mum". He said something about "Anne Archer"? Anyhow nice enough guy. Wish I had a copy of that traveling mix. [/QB]
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First song when they left the stage is by Mum.
I couldn't place the song/band but it seemed so familar. I realized the song reminds me of "Mixing My Arms" by a Denver band, Bear VS Larger Bear (http://www.bearvslargerbear.com/BvLB_frame.htm). Originally posted by lily1:
that song that was played right after they left the stage was excellent, and i'veh eard it before but no one knew what it was.
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Flava:.
I dug the music that was played after the show. [/b]
[/QB]
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I thought this show was pretty good. If you like the CD, you'd probably like the show. The rockin' songs were turned up a notch, which is always good. However, the slower songs really brought things down quite a bit. They need to spread those out a little more, rather than dragging the whole show doen for 3 or 4 songs.
The singer appeared to be genuinely enjoying the crowd. He looked like he was having a great time.
Very young crowd - at least compared to most of the shows I see. Lots of couples making out and guys screaming "You fucking rooooock!!!!" haha
I give it a 7. SO gave it a 6.5. Fun way to spend a Friday night, but I may pass next time around.
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Well I thought it was a pretty great show. I didn't have any complaints with the vocals, but then I was probably singing along very loudly myself. Maybe all the complainers were just hearing me......
I said it would sell out, why does no-one listen to me?
I think there is a possibility that next time they come back they might be playing bigger venues and follow a coldplay like trajectory.....
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
and follow a coldplay like trajectory.....
dont wish bad things upon people, markie.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
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dont wish bad things upon people, markie. [/b][/QUOTE]
I really think that the snow patrol frontman is far too ugly to pull a fit bird oscar winning glamour girl. I think that will stymie their success.
Still all it takes is one really catchy single from the next album to get some airplay.....