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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: thirsty moore on December 28, 2003, 10:04:00 pm
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'Meat Puppets' bass player critical after shooting tonight
Michael Kiefer
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 26, 2003 10:11 PM
Cris Kirkwood, the bass player for the Meat Puppets, a Phoenix band that became a national act in the1980s and 1990s, was shot Friday after an altercation with a security guard at the downtown Phoenix post office.
Kirkwood, 43, was taken to Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center in critical condition and whisked into surgery for an abdominal wound. His injuries are not expected to be life threatening.
According to witnesses, Kirkwood quarreled over a parking space shortly before 5 p.m. in front of the U.S. Post Office at Central Avenue and Fillmore Street. Kirkwood was apparently backing into the parking space on Central when Jenny Hom, 32, of Phoenix attempted to pull into it from behind.
Hom honked her horn, then both drivers pulled into the parking lot. Hom said that Kirkwood, whom she did not identify by name, followed her and stopped her on the sidewalk outside the post office, yelling obscenities at her.
"He shrugged his shoulder as if he was going to hit me," she said. "He didn't hit me."
But Hom went into the post office and reported the man's behavior to a security guard. The guard escorted the man out.
Kevin Killigrew of the FBI said that the aggressor shoved the guard twice.
"[The guard] took out the baton and held it out in front of him and said, 'You need to leave,'" Killigrew said. "The guy took the baton from him and struck him at least one time in the forehead at which time the guard felt fear for his life. He said, 'I thought the guy was going to kill me.' He already displayed that he would hurt him, and the guard shot him one time in the abdomen."
Shortly after the incident, the guard was sitting dazed on the steps of the post office. Kirkwood's clothing sat in a pool of blood on the sidewalk.
"I never shot anyone before," the guard told Phoenix Police.
Charges are pending, federal authorities said.
Kirkwood and his brother Curt fronted the Meat Puppets, who had several hit records in the 1980s and -90s, and were cited as an influence for bands such as Nirvana.
The Meat Puppets released eight compact dicsCds and won a gold record in 1994 for "Too High to Die." The band toured with Nirvana, Soul Asylum and Stone Temple Pilots.
In August 1998, Cris Kirkwood's wife, Michelle Tardif, was found dead of a heroin overdose.
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I HATE the Meat Puppets and I completely believe this story, because the reason I hate them is they were such severe, no holds barred assholes when they played my college in 1988. I had friends in the campus band that opened for them, and the Puppets were horrid. Not only then, but way before the show at the local diner and to the folks from the campus radio station who wanted to interview them (hello, college radio -- get it, guys, that's your venue....).
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MEAT puppets huh.....I bet some MAD COW shot him!
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weeeeee don't exist......
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If I had a gun, it would be very tempting to shoot my neighbor's dog(s).
They are in the back yard barking before 7am on weekends and at 6am on weekdays. They are out there barking away in the middle of the day right now. Dude, have some respect for your neighbors.
But don't worry, I won't be shooting any dogs or neighbors.
Or am I overreacting? Are those appropriate times to have your dogs out barking away in your yard?
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If I had a gun, it would be very tempting to shoot my neighbor's dog(s).
They are in the back yard barking before 7am on weekends and at 6am on weekdays. They are out there barking away in the middle of the day right now. Dude, have some respect for your neighbors.
But don't worry, I won't be shooting any dogs or neighbors.
Or am I overreacting? Are those appropriate times to have your dogs out barking away in your yard?
1. Walk over
2. Knock On Door
3. Ask to put dog in the house instead of annoying every neighbor within earshot
4. Profit???
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i'd be pretty upset about those morning barking sessions. what are the noise laws where you live? can you call the cops, or animal control? ideally they could give a warning to the neighbors and they'll start being a little more considerate about when they release the hounds. hell, you could drop them a note asking them to deal with their canine noisemakers or else you will make that call... note can be signed or anonymous. certainly you're not the only person in your hood annoyed by the yappers.
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Dogs barking after five minutes are so annoying
I didn’t see the date and was scared the guy had just been shot
The Kirkwood brothers are definitely pretty insane
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i'd be pretty upset about those morning barking sessions. what are the noise laws where you live? can you call the cops, or animal control? ideally they could give a warning to the neighbors and they'll start being a little more considerate about when they release the hounds. hell, you could drop them a note asking them to deal with their canine noisemakers or else you will make that call... note can be signed or anonymous. certainly you're not the only person in your hood annoyed by the yappers.
Thanks. I like the idea of it being anonymous, and I'm the introverted, non-confrontational type offline. I do always fear stoking an ongoing neighbor dispute by doing something like that. Someone was murdered by his neighbor less than a mile away from me the other day in what was described as an ongoing dispute.
Full disclosure: When I let my dog out to pee in the morning, he starts barking through the fence at these dog(s) until i quickly call him in. And he responds anytime he goes out during the day. I can't really tell if the dogs belong to one neighbor or if it's two neighbor's dogs barking at each other.
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Buy a silent dog whistle and start blowing it at them.
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Buy a silent dog whistle and start blowing it at them.
This is not a bad idea.
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Buy a silent dog whistle and start blowing it at them.
This is not a bad idea.
One hurdle I didn't consider is $pace would need to spend money on a whistle to make this happen.
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OTOH, if somebody shot me, I'd be pretty damn critical too!
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Buy a silent dog whistle and start blowing it at them.
This is not a bad idea.
One hurdle I didn't consider is $pace would need to spend money on a whistle to make this happen.
Perhaps he could learn dog whistling as a hobby. Then we could hear recaps of all of his daughter's snarky comments about him trying to do it. A rare TRIPLE win!!
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OTOH, if somebody shot me, I'd be pretty damn critical too!
what if it was a 'shot to the heart'
you might just think they give love a bad name
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Another Reason Why I Don't Keep A Gun In The House
The neighbors' dog will not stop barking.
He is barking the same high, rhythmic bark
that he barks every time they leave the house.
They must switch him on on their way out.
The neighbors' dog will not stop barking.
I close all the windows in the house
and put on a Beethoven symphony full blast
but I can still hear him muffled under the music,
barking, barking, barking,
and now I can see him sitting in the orchestra,
his head raised confidently as if Beethoven
had included a part for barking dog.
When the record finally ends he is still barking,
sitting there in the oboe section barking,
his eyes fixed on the conductor who is
entreating him with his baton
while the other musicians listen in respectful
silence to the famous barking dog solo,
that endless coda that first established
Beethoven as an innovative genius.
Billy Collins
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POTW
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Billy Collins
had never heard of BC
this is good stuff
https://www.ted.com/talks/billy_collins_two_poems_about_what_dogs_think_probably/transcript
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He was the US Poet Laureate for a bit...under Clinton (?)
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He was the US Poet Laureate for a bit...under Clinton (?)
hmmm...can you name 5 of the last 10 without googling it? (you probably can)
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There was a time in my life when I could...today not so much.