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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Sage 703 on March 28, 2008, 12:28:00 pm
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I'm probably as shocked as anybody - but the new Panic at the Disco record is entirely worth hearing. I've had it on fairly constant rotation, and I loathed the band after the first record.
If you all can swallow your indie-cred for a minute and take a listen, you might be pleasantly surprised. This is a very solid pop record that owes enormous debts to Sgt. Pepper - it certainly isn't great, but it has some moments of greatness.
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Originally posted by callat703:
I'm probably as shocked as anybody - but the new Panic at the Disco record is entirely worth hearing. I've had it on fairly constant rotation, and I loathed the band after the first record.
If you all can swallow your indie-cred for a minute and take a listen, you might be pleasantly surprised. This is a very solid pop record that owes enormous debts to Sgt. Pepper - it certainly isn't great, but it has some moments of greatness.
Good post. Well, all except for that "Sgt. Pepper" part. I'm glad some of you are coming around to my way of thinking.
Brian
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Originally posted by callat703:
If you all can swallow your indie-cred for a minute...
I will do no such thing, and you're off my Christmas Card list for even suggesting it, sir. Good day.
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No one on this forum has indie cred, they just like to think they do.
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Since we're on the topic, what bands would you listen to if you wanted to claim that you had indie cred? Would your entire record collection have to be stuff released on indie labels?
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But I only watch films with subtitles!!!!
Originally posted by Shadrach:
No one on this forum has indie cred, they just like to think they do.
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Originally posted by bearman:
Since we're on the topic, what bands would you listen to if you wanted to claim that you had indie cred? Would your entire record collection have to be stuff released on indie labels?
Define "indie label."
Define "indie cred."
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Originally posted by bearman:
Since we're on the topic, what bands would you listen to if you wanted to claim that you had indie cred? Would your entire record collection have to be stuff released on indie labels?
I think a lot of people who are huge into the old DC hardcore/Dischord scene like to think that gives them a degree of indie cred.
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What about listening to Sufjan Stevens and Death Cab?
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The funny thing about their new cd is their fan base hates it. It really has gotten some bad word of mouth. Ironically, the group of indie music lovers that they alienated with the first cd have a better shot at liking it but won't give it the chance.
I know, make fun, I've seen them 3 times already, but they lost me as a fan, with the disaster they call their sophomore cd.
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Listened to it, and it's terrible. I think the nasaly mind-numbing vocals are my biggest complaint, outside of the rather lackluster musical efforts and cheeseball lyrics.
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Originally posted by mdh9857:
The funny thing about their new cd is their fan base hates it. It really has gotten some bad word of mouth. Ironically, the group of indie music lovers that they alienated with the first cd have a better shot at liking it but won't give it the chance.
I know, make fun, I've seen them 3 times already, but they lost me as a fan, with the disaster they call their sophomore cd.
Agreed. The fanbase is going to hate it, and people like me that hated the first record may like it. I completely understand not liking the vocal and lyrics, but I still think musically it is a well done record with some well written pop songs.
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I saw a late night 30 minute show on Panic at the Disco on FUSE TV the other day, about recording their new album and it took me like 10 minutes to even realize it was them!!!
yeah, they dont look emo, they dont sound emo.
i thought it was the Raconteurs or something.
it certainly is worth more than just getting teen hearts beating faster and faster.
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Indie Cred means listening to Trocadero, Unwound and Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, right????
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Originally posted by Glass Arm Shattering:
Indie Cred means listening to Trocadero, Unwound and Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, right????
Maybe about 15 years ago.
It's all about the Mae Shi nowadays.
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I've never heard of any of the bands listed in this thread. Are they, like, Raccoo-oo-oon cover bands or something?
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by callat703:
If you all can swallow your indie-cred for a minute...
I will do no such thing, and you're off my Christmas Card list for even suggesting it, sir. Good day. [/b]
sending out xmas cards isn't very indie (unless of course you include an obtuse, tangential review of your friendship, compare it to friendships you have with other hipsters, and finally give the friendship an ironic score between 1 and 10).
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
sending out xmas cards isn't very indie
Bro, I think it was pretty obvious I was talking about Vegan Christmas, not regular-people December 25th Christmas. Then again, it is pretty underground, so maybe you haven't heard of it.
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what i heard sounds like Third Eye Bllind by way of The Shins by way of Phantom Planet - which is much less offensive than their first album which sounded like Meatloaf by way of a high school production of Pirates of Penzance by way of a very special episode of California Dreams.
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I was in a high school production of Pirates of Penzance. Does that give me indie cred?
Originally posted by Mobius:
what i heard sounds like Third Eye Bllind by way of The Shins by way of Phantom Planet - which is much less offensive than their first album which sounded like Meatloaf by way of a high school production of Pirates of Penzance by way of a very special episode of California Dreams.
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
No one on this forum has indie cred, they just like to think they do.
werd, yo
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It's more power pop than Sgt. Peppers to me.
Matthew Sweet, Falkner-y - Jellyfish, The Grays
Not bad.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by callat703:
If you all can swallow your indie-cred for a minute...
I will do no such thing, and you're off my Christmas Card list for even suggesting it, sir. Good day. [/b]
sending out xmas cards isn't very indie (unless of course you include an obtuse, tangential review of your friendship, compare it to friendships you have with other hipsters, and finally give the friendship an ironic score between 1 and 10). [/b]
what about sending religous christmas cards, but in an ironic way?
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Do you identify as a Thespian?
Originally posted by Tom Servo:
I was in a high school production of Pirates of Penzance. Does that give me indie cred?
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I understand the whole Sgt. Peppers influence to it. It makes me want to check out the new album.
Now is it as good as Sgt. Peppers? Everyone knows the answer to that question.
LOVE.
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Now that's funny.
Take notes, Rhett. ;)
Speaking of Raccoo-oo-oon, they just put out a sweet new cassette (Mythos Folkways Vol. IV).
Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
I've never heard of any of the bands listed in this thread. Are they, like, Raccoo-oo-oon cover bands or something?
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by Glass Arm Shattering:
Indie Cred means listening to Trocadero, Unwound and Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, right????
Maybe about 15 years ago.
It's all about the Mae Shi nowadays. [/b]
Brian Jonestown Massacre anyone?
please note i have no idea what the hell indie means.
pretty. odd = pretty. bleh. i prefer other bands most people don't :)
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I had this for about a week, and I finally got around to listening to it this weekend.
I keep hearing the Sgt. Peppers influence comments, but when did having horns, an orchestra with lots of clapping in the background mean you've embraced Sgt. Peppers? Come on. There's so much more to Sgt. Peppers than telling a story to your audience with lots of instruments that this comparison is off the mark.
To me it sounds like a typical self indulgent sophomore effort, from a band that I liked the debut and was worried about the second album. The difference here is that I hated the first album. The first album was SOOO self indulgent that this one comes off as not so bad. I can see myself listening to it every now and then.
I can totally see their fan base revolting. And I think that was intentional. Had they made another "A Fever you can't Sweat Out" they would have been so pigeon holed that when their fans grew up they'd be playing to nobody. I like what they did here.
As for the Pop comments, that's the one downside to this album. It doesn't have more than one decent Pop single that will sell this album, and I think they know it. If it did, they wouldn't have played a new version of an old song on SNL a couple weeks ago.
That being said, the commercial on MTV where the band is staring at the world's largest thermometer (between LA and Las Vegas in Baker, CA) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM9Tl_D1uvM), cracks me up every time I see it. I've done that. I bought the album for that commercial, and that commercial alone.
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I saw their performance on SNL a few weeks ago and noticed that their vocals are so much better in a live setting than on record...it's like they deliberately over-harmonized the production on the CD, if that makes sense. I was just thinking, why in the hell would they do that? Usually when a band does that on their cd, it means they are compensating for shitty vocals, but this guy actually can sing.
Weird.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I had this for about a week, and I finally got around to listening to it this weekend.
I keep hearing the Sgt. Peppers influence comments, but when did having horns, an orchestra with lots of clapping in the background mean you've embraced Sgt. Peppers? Come on. There's so much more to Sgt. Peppers than telling a story to your audience with lots of instruments that this comparison is off the mark.
To me it sounds like a typical self indulgent sophomore effort, from a band that I liked the debut and was worried about the second album. The difference here is that I hated the first album. The first album was SOOO self indulgent that this one comes off as not so bad. I can see myself listening to it every now and then.
I can totally see their fan base revolting. And I think that was intentional. Had they made another "A Fever you can't Sweat Out" they would have been so pigeon holed that when their fans grew up they'd be playing to nobody. I like what they did here.
As for the Pop comments, that's the one downside to this album. It doesn't have more than one decent Pop single that will sell this album, and I think they know it. If it did, they wouldn't have played a new version of an old song on SNL a couple weeks ago.
That being said, the commercial on MTV where the band is staring at the world's largest thermometer (between LA and Las Vegas in Baker, CA) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM9Tl_D1uvM), cracks me up every time I see it. I've done that. I bought the album for that commercial, and that commercial alone.
Personally, I hear the Sgt. Pepper/Beatles comparisons much more in the guitar tones and lead guitar lines, as well as the overall song structures. Sure, the horns and orchestration as well - but it is most evident to me in the guitar.