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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: jabella on April 01, 2008, 03:54:00 pm
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Where are some good late night places to eat in DC? Like around 3am after bars close. Chinatown is always ok for the food, but any other places with better ambiance?
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I think The Diner in Adams Morgan is open all night.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
I think The Diner in Adams Morgan is open all night.
It is.
I suggest the grilled cheese with tomato and/or bacon. Noms.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
I think The Diner in Adams Morgan is open all night.
and they have decent pancakes!
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Thanks - I have to check this place out. Is the service okay here? I miss the old, old days in Baltimore with Gampy's and Crazy John's.
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at $10 a pancake.
Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
I think The Diner in Adams Morgan is open all night.
and they have decent pancakes! [/b]
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Originally posted by Jammin:
Thanks - I have to check this place out. Is the service okay here?
The service was pretty good considering the time of night and the number of people there the last time I went in the middle of the night. And as betty said, the pancakes are pretty good (and 3 for $8, if I recall, not $10 per), although I suggest the wheat toast and margarine because its healthier.
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Kramerbooks cafe, just on weekends
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
although I suggest the wheat toast and margarine because its healthier.
margarine? really, i didn't realize there were people still extolling the virtues of margarine.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
really, i didn't realize there were people still extolling the virtues of margarine.
Less calories than butter.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
really, i didn't realize there were people still extolling the virtues of margarine.
Less calories then butter. [/b]
maybe, but i'd rather not consume something that was derived in a laboratory and can be changed into any number of other things simply by changing the chemical make-up of the solid...for example, in order to made solid at room temperature, vegetable oils are pumped full of artificially created trans fats to maintain composition. with several jurisdictions out to tell you what you can and cannot eat, margarine producers were able to chemically re-compose the margarine atoms so that it can maintain its structure at room temperature and not contain artificially created trans fats.
so, if you don't care that you are eating something devised in a lab and is one atom away from plastic, then, sure, go ahead.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
maybe, but i'd rather not consume something that was derived in a laboratory and can be changed into any number of other things simply by changing the chemical make-up of the solid...for example, in order to made solid at room temperature, vegetable oils are pumped full of artificially created trans fats to maintain composition. with several jurisdictions out to tell you what you can and cannot eat, margarine producers were able to chemically re-compose the margarine atoms so that it can maintain its structure at room temperature and not contain artificially created trans fats.
so, if you don't care that you are eating something devised in a lab and is one atom away from plastic, then, sure, go ahead.
Less calories than butter.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Less calories than butter.
but that doesn't necessarily make it healthier than butter.
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I think what we have here, fair Bede, is a failure to communicate.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
I think what we have here, fair Bede, is a failure to communicate.
well, you said margarine was healthier, and i'm simply pointing out that that may not be true. there's more than just calories to consider.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
there's more than just calories to consider.
No, there isn't. This speech is shocking, who can hear it?
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I don't get The Diner's popularity -- the food is mediocre at best, and expensive for what it is. And it's certainly not a diner. Is it just that it's open late?
Now that Alberto's is open up in Adams-Morgan, if I was toasted and up that way, I'd be making a beeline for one of their slices... soooo much better than those giant slice places on the east side of 18th.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Is it just that it's open late?
For me, yes. The food is serviceable, and I can show up at 4am. It's not where I'd go during the usual dinner hour. The owners own another place a few block north (on Calvert maybe) called Open City that's a little better food, as far as food of that fare goes, but it's not open all night so it doesn't really fit the topic starter's question...
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
really, i didn't realize there were people still extolling the virtues of margarine.
Less calories than butter. [/b]
is that true? i haven't read a margarine label before, but i'm pretty sure it's just hydrogenated oil. since oil is 100% fat and conventional butter is only 80% then it would have 120 calories per tablespoon. i guess that might not be correct though, there are probably other things... flavor, color.
my understanding was that people used margarine because of cholesterol reasons, rationing during the war, and misinformation. i guess preference is valid too.
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p.s.
the mac and cheese is the reason to go to the diner
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in adams morgan there is amsterdam falafael
in georgetown there is quick pita and also bistro francais
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El Tamarindo? Lily and I have many blurred memories of that place at about 3 a.m. on Thursday nights.
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Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
really, i didn't realize there were people still extolling the virtues of margarine.
Less calories than butter. [/b]
is that true? i haven't read a margarine label before, but i'm pretty sure it's just hydrogenated oil. since oil is 100% fat and conventional butter is only 80% then it would have 120 calories per tablespoon. i guess that might not be correct though, there are probably other things... flavor, color.
my understanding was that people used margarine because of cholesterol reasons, rationing during the war, and misinformation. i guess preference is valid too. [/b]
according to this page (http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-fats-spreads-oils-butter_c-Y2lkPTY0JnBhcj0.html), butter and margarine have the same amount of calories per tablespoon.
according to this page (http://calorielab.com/foods/butter-and-margarine/48), butter has 2 more calories than margarine, with a serving size of "one pat".
in other words, there appears to be a neglible amount of difference in calories between butter and margarine. well, unless you explicitly purchase low calorie and low fat margarine (once again, the lab is able to chemically modify a product to suit its needs), which reduces the calorie count by half.
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Originally posted by lily1:
in adams morgan there is amsterdam falafael
i didn't realize they were open 24 hours! jackpot.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by lily1:
in adams morgan there is amsterdam falafael
i didn't realize they were open 24 hours! jackpot. [/b]
and by 24 hours i meant in the middle of the night
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
according to this page (http://calorielab.com/foods/butter-and-margarine/48), butter has 2 more calories than margarine, with a serving size of "one pat".
in other words, there appears to be a neglible amount of difference in calories between butter and margarine.
The road to obesity is paved with 2 calories.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
according to this page (http://calorielab.com/foods/butter-and-margarine/48), butter has 2 more calories than margarine, with a serving size of "one pat".
in other words, there appears to be a neglible amount of difference in calories between butter and margarine.
The road to obesity is paved with 2 calories. [/b]
well yes, and margarine generally contains many more trans fats, which ultimately make it worse for you than butter. if you are only using a really really small amount (which is all you should be using), calories shouldn't even be an issue.
but why don't you skip out on both and use something that won't hurt your arteries like preserves?
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Originally posted by you be betty:
but why don't you skip out on both and use something that won't hurt your arteries like preserves?
Interesting idea -- can you find information on the calories in preserves vs. margarine?
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by you be betty:
but why don't you skip out on both and use something that won't hurt your arteries like preserves?
Interesting idea -- can you find information on the calories in preserves vs. margarine? [/b]
average is about 56 calories per tablespoon, which about half the amount from butter and margarine, per tablespoon. . of course, you're looking at an increase in sugar.
maybe i just don't understand the obsession with calories.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by you be betty:
but why don't you skip out on both and use something that won't hurt your arteries like preserves?
Interesting idea -- can you find information on the calories in preserves vs. margarine? [/b]
average is about 56 calories per tablespoon, which about half the amount from butter and margarine, per tablespoon. . of course, you're looking at an increase in sugar.
maybe i just don't understand the obsession with calories. [/b]
Aside from the whole calorie thing, jam is just better for you. As the daughter of a father who consumes a lot of margarine and had a heart attack a couple of years ago, I just prefer to avoid the stuff all together. When I am looking to spread something on toast/whatever, I just don't even think of it as an option. There are so many other delicious and healthy things that you can spread on shit out there (jam, farmer cheese, organic peanut butter), so why should I put pure fat on my toast? I don't know..I've never been a fan.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Aside from the whole calorie thing, jam is just better for you. As the daughter of a father who consumes a lot of margarine and had a heart attack a couple of years ago, I just prefer to avoid the stuff all together. When I am looking to spread something on toast/whatever, I just don't even think of it as an option. There are so many other delicious and healthy things that you can spread on shit out there (jam, farmer cheese, organic peanut butter), so why should I put pure fat on my toast? I don't know..I've never been a fan.
that's fine, i'm not really taking issue with that, i mean i eat toast plain because i don't like the straight taste of butter (can't do without it in baking and in other cooking though, it is indispensible chemically).
i'm more interested in the so-called health benefits, because that seems to me to viewing eating in a negative light. i've probably read too much michael pollan (and watched too much alton brown and anthony bourdain), which is why i simply do not understand why someone would choose margarine over butter (and the whole, if you can't pronounce an ingredient, you probably shouldn't eat it).
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I didn't realize people at these late night joints were so calorie conscious. I eat like a fiend once the drinking is done. I do admit I'll often skip breakfast and lunch the next day as penance.
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Stop with the health talk! Who the hell really cares at 3am after you've been out drinking and full of booze? You're looking for something to soak up the booze and fill your belly. Usually, the best things are greasy and full of fats. Deal with it for ONE night. Unless you're a professional drunk and out every night of the week, then I'd suggest Jammin's idea and skip a few meals the next day lol
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only reason to use margarine is if you need something spreadable. other than that, i like to use real butter. and i love alton brown and good eats
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Originally posted by Cali:
only reason to use margarine is if you need something spreadable. other than that, i like to use real butter. and i love alton brown and good eats
alton brown used margarine instead of butter in the yellow cake episode... it might have even been butter flavored shortening. he had his reasons, but i still haven't forgiven him for that one.
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really? now i'll look around for that ep to see why he'd do that.
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Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
Originally posted by Cali:
only reason to use margarine is if you need something spreadable. other than that, i like to use real butter. and i love alton brown and good eats
alton brown used margarine instead of butter in the yellow cake episode... it might have even been butter flavored shortening. he had his reasons, but i still haven't forgiven him for that one. [/b]
actually, it looks like he uses shortening (http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_21637,00.html) instead of margarine. there are probably heat-related reasons for using shortening over butter in this instance (and since it appears the episode is about interpreting an old recipe, shortening was probably used as butter replacement during butter shortages). but i'd rather make a mayonnaise cake (http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_13092,00.html) than a shortening cake.
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i think it was because the water content in butter is too high. and then he said that he thought that the shortening tasted more like butter than butter!
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oh okay, i understand the shortening.
not so sure about a mayo cake, but i'd try it.
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Butter v margarine is neither her nor there.....it's eating at 3am then going home and sleeping till noon that's going to turn you into a lard-arse. Not to mention the gallons of booze you've probably swilled prior to your midnight feast.