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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: miss pretentious on November 02, 2007, 08:27:00 am
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this time, saul williams is at bat...
source. (http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005835.html)
Radiohead's pay-what-you-want release of its album In Rainbows is starting to catch on. Today spoken-word hip-hop artist Saul Williams releases his album, The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of Niggy Tardust!, via his Website. Users can choose to either get it for free or offer a donation of at least $5.
Behind today's release is some heavyweight help from Nine Inch Nails' frontman Trent Reznor who has been a vocal supporter of releasing music directly to fans via the Web.
A quick look at Williams' Web-debut of his album shows improvements over a lot of things Radiohead was chastised for, primarily offering their album at a bit rate significantly less than the 256K bps standard.
The Saul Williams Website, in a Web layout similar to that of Radiohead's In Rainbows, details exactly what fans who donate or don't will get with the album. Paying users will get the album in one of either three formats, 192Kbps MP3, 320Kbps MP3 and FLAC lossless audio. The free version of the album is only available the 192Kbps MP3 version. All downloads come with a PDF of artwork and lyrics and all files are 100 percent DRM free.
The release model could also be the method of choice for the next Nine Inch Nails album. Speaking to New York Magazine, Reznor, who produced the Williams album, said, "If I had [an album] that was done, I would [release] it today in exactly the same way." Nine Inch Nails is currently a free agent, as announced on the band's blog last month.
Only time will tell where the In Rainbows effect might show up next.
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d'loading now.. thanks chica
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
d'loading now.. thanks chica
If I had found this at home, as opposed to at work, I'd be DL'ing as well :)
Let me know how it is!
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Who the hell is Saul Williams?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Who the hell is Saul Williams?
Can we just sticky note this comment and leave the artist blank, attaching it to everything not alt-country? Please?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Who the hell is Saul Williams?
he is your father.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...he's a black poet who makes college aged white kids feel "with it"
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Saul is alright. I dont care too much for his sometimes rambling on and on, but when he decides to actually play a song, he's pretty on.
but i suppose thats just a "white" guy talkin.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Saul is alright. I dont care too much for his sometimes rambling on and on, but when he decides to actually play a song, he's pretty on.
but i suppose thats just a "white" guy talkin.
agreed. i actually prefer his ramblings (not all of them) to his music though.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...he's a black poet who makes college aged white kids feel "with it"
Like Gil Scott-Heron, but forty years on?
"Kids downloading Radiohead for free.
(with Whitey on the moon)
The money you spent on your 'iPhone' could feed me for a year.
(and Whitey's on the moon)
Complaining about beer lines at the DAR.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
Spoon show moved from 9:30 club to Merriweather.
(while Whitey's on the moon) "
Brian
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Wow, Brian is on fire today!
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by manimtired:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...he's a black poet who makes college aged white kids feel "with it"
Like Gil Scott-Heron, but forty years on?
"Kids downloading Radiohead for free.
(with Whitey on the moon)
The money you spent on your 'iPhone' could feed me for a year.
(and Whitey's on the moon)
Complaining about beer lines at the DAR.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
Spoon show moved from 9:30 club to Merriweather.
(while Whitey's on the moon) "
Brian [/b]
I think I gave out my choice for post of the week yesterday. If I did, here's my recount.
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**Rise and Liberation of Niggy Tardust**
What the fuck!!!!
First of all he can't think of an original way to market his stuff so copies Radiohead, and he can't even think up an original title for his 'spoken word hip hop album'so plagurises Bowie...do hip hop artist ever have one single original thought...ever???
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I still don't see what's so revolutionary about Radiohead selling their album via download a couple months before the CD's for sale, even if they let you pay what you want. Isn't it more or less the same as when Wilco put YHF up as a download prior to the CD being released, only they didn't charge at all? Radiohead knew the album would leak prior to the CD release, so they just leaked it themselves and made some money off it. Good move, but not revolutionary. If In Rainbows was only being released as a download, and it was pay what you want, that would be interesting. Or maybe I'm just missing something.
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I'm pretty sure I mentioned this here... (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=016410)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I'm pretty sure I mentioned this here... (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=016410)
maybe no one wanted to read your long ass article!
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Originally posted by le sonick:
maybe no one wanted to read your long ass article!
It was the second, shorter article about Trent Reznor, but you're probably right.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
maybe no one wanted to read your long ass article!
that made me chuckle
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Jane Siberry (Issa) has been doing this since 2005 with her independent record label, Sheeba Records:
http://www.sheeba.ca/store/index.php?cPath=21 (http://www.sheeba.ca/store/index.php?cPath=21)
Wikipedia says the following:
In 2005, Siberry pioneered a self-determined pricing policy through her website on which the purchaser is given the choices of: standard price (about $0.99 USD/track), pay now - self-priced, pay later - self-priced, or "a gift from Jane". Her music is now only available in mp3 format in order to eliminate plastic waste. In an interview with The Globe and Mail, Siberry confirmed that since she had instituted the self-determined pricing policy, the average income she receives per song from Sheeba customers is in fact slightly more than standard price.
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Originally posted by mbg73:
I still don't see what's so revolutionary about Radiohead selling their album via download a couple months before the CD's for sale, even if they let you pay what you want. Isn't it more or less the same as when Wilco put YHF up as a download prior to the CD being released, only they didn't charge at all?
that's what i've been saying since i first heard about this. wilco has released their last THREE albums for free long before they're ever released in stores. i think it's very cool that radiohead did what they did but wilco did it several years earlier and several times more.