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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bags on May 23, 2006, 03:24:00 pm
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I've had so many of these lately...
(1) When Hurley 'took control' of his problem with food and destroyed all the food he'd been hoarding, at Libby's urging. Okay, these folks are on a fucking ISLAND. Even with these rations they happened upon, they might be on the island for 20 years. Hurley should be drawn and quartered for squandering the only non-indigent food supply they have to count on. PLUS, he destroyed all that food he couldn't resist before new rations were dropped on the island. He had NO idea the existing rations weren't limited to what was down in the hatch.
(2) On The O.C., when every single one of them got their "college acceptance" letters on the exact same day. Uh, that does NOT happen. Nor does every college have their new students visiting day on the same day. Nor would a bunch of privileged private school kids all have applied to only one school each. My dad was furious with me when I only applied to four schools.
(3) Oh no, Lorelai and Luke might not get married?!? Hello, this couple has not had any heat between them all season long. It's insane. As writers, wouldn't you think, "hey, they're an engaged couple, maybe they should hug or smile at each other or something??" Ditto to both O.C. teenage couples. All the chemistry and heat just went away completely. So bizarre.
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I thought the same thing about Hurley...
I also wonder why people don't tell each other things. Like, when Michael came back and said that the others were simple people with beards. Why didn't Kate say "OH NO THEY'RE NOT! I saw the freakin' costumes!"
Makes no sense to me.
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Also, every single thing that happens on 24.
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Originally posted by Bags:
(2) On The O.C., when every single one of them got their "college acceptance" letters on the exact same day. Uh, that does NOT happen. Nor does every college have their new students visiting day on the same day. Nor would a bunch of privileged private school kids all have applied to only one school each. My dad was furious with me when I only applied to four schools.
Actually, in the past two or three-ish years, now most people do find out on the same day because so much is done on the Internet. Certain schools have it pinpointed down to the minute when their decisions will be posted online, just to make it that much more nervewracking.
But one school IS completely unheard of these days, so much of it is so arbitrary now that you have to apply all over the place to make sure you have SOMEWHERE to go. I've narrowed my list for next year down to eight-ish schools (but hopefully will get into my ED school-- are any of YOU Brown alumni who want to adopt me into your family for legacy status? And no, I don't want to go there because Summer is. . ), but am still searching for a school that I'll love that I have a pretty definite spot at. I have straight As and high board scores and have done everything right, but I haven't written a book, or saved starving children in Africa or won an Emmy, so my 12 years of hard work at my education is going to have to carry me, and unfortunately now, its just not good enough to promise anyone anything because so many people have the same qualifications.
Sorry for that, most of you are WAY WAY past this in your life, but I know Betty feels me on this. The pressure on teenagers in school right now, especially at our hyper-competitive-they-might-as-well-be-private public Bethesda high schools is just absurd.
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Michael made that comment to Jack, I think. Was Kate around?
Originally posted by K8teebug:
I thought the same thing about Hurley...
I also wonder why people don't tell each other things. Like, when Michael came back and said that the others were simple people with beards. Why didn't Kate say "OH NO THEY'RE NOT! I saw the freakin' costumes!"
Makes no sense to me.
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Originally posted by Graace:
Sorry for that, most of you are WAY WAY past this in your life, but I know Betty feels me on this. The pressure on teenagers in school right now, especially at our hyper-competitive-they-might-as-well-be-private public Bethesda high schools is just absurd.
Yeah things were way easier for us...back when I was in school they just herded us into the gym and dropped acceptance letters from the top row of the bleachers.
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by Graace:
Sorry for that, most of you are WAY WAY past this in your life, but I know Betty feels me on this. The pressure on teenagers in school right now, especially at our hyper-competitive-they-might-as-well-be-private public Bethesda high schools is just absurd.
Yeah things were way easier for us...back when I was in school they just herded us into the gym and dropped acceptance letters from the top row of the bleachers. [/b]
I'm definitely not saying that it wasn't hard to get into college earlier, at all. I'm just saying that in the educational climate of my high school, every event from the beginning of freshman year is focused on college, and if you don't go (or have no DESIRE to go) to an Ivy or MIT or some highly selective northeastern liberal arts college with a 5% acceptance rate, something is WRONG with your
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hmmm. . i only applied to 2 schools, and got into both of them.
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I flunked out of college. I'm in the top income decile in the U.S.
btw - no schools have acceptance rates of 5%
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/webex/lowacc_brief.php (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/webex/lowacc_brief.php)
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There's always the military.
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Originally posted by Graace:
Originally posted by Bags:
(2) On The O.C., when every single one of them got their "college acceptance" letters on the exact same day. Uh, that does NOT happen. Nor does every college have their new students visiting day on the same day. Nor would a bunch of privileged private school kids all have applied to only one school each. My dad was furious with me when I only applied to four schools.
Actually, in the past two or three-ish years, now most people do find out on the same day because so much is done on the Internet. Certain schools have it pinpointed down to the minute when their decisions will be posted online, just to make it that much more nervewracking.
But one school IS completely unheard of these days, so much of it is so arbitrary now that you have to apply all over the place to make sure you have SOMEWHERE to go. I've narrowed my list for next year down to eight-ish schools (but hopefully will get into my ED school-- are any of YOU Brown alumni who want to adopt me into your family for legacy status? And no, I don't want to go there because Summer is. . ), but am still searching for a school that I'll love that I have a pretty definite spot at. I have straight As and high board scores and have done everything right, but I haven't written a book, or saved starving children in Africa or won an Emmy, so my 12 years of hard work at my education is going to have to carry me, and unfortunately now, its just not good enough to promise anyone anything because so many people have the same qualifications.
Sorry for that, most of you are WAY WAY past this in your life, but I know Betty feels me on this. The pressure on teenagers in school right now, especially at our hyper-competitive-they-might-as-well-be-private public Bethesda high schools is just absurd. [/b]
Oh yes. We both want to go to Brown. And I'm freaked out too, because only 4 out of 40 who applied to Brown from my school got in there this year. And part of Brown being the new "it" school has a lot to do with the OC. Unforutnately for me, I've been wanting to go to Brown since age 10, when I found out about their partnership with RISD. It's one of about three schools where I can make my parents happy by applying my good grades, and make myself happy by getting a Fashion/Merchandising education. Stupid television.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I flunked out of college.
Well we have something in common then!
And really, working at Burger King isn't ALL that bad.
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oh, and i forgot to add that it's 20x harder by default for anyone coming from Bethesda. trust me.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
btw - no schools have acceptance rates of 5%
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/webex/lowacc_brief.php (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/webex/lowacc_brief.php)
I'm aware. It was hyperbole to demonstrate exactly how absurd the expectations are.
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Damn...I mean education is important and all...I'd venture to say it's very important.
But you kids need to lighten up a little. Seriously. Spend your whole life trying to keep up with the Jones's and the Browns and all this competition will make you successful maybe, but what about being happy and living a little?
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I'm having a "you gotta be kidding me" moment reading this thread.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
I'm having a "you gotta be kidding me" moment reading this thread.
exactly
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NVCC was my safety school.
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Damn...I mean education is important and all...I'd venture to say it's very important.
But you kids need to lighten up a little. Seriously. Spend your whole life trying to keep up with the Jones's and the Browns and all this competition will make you successful maybe, but what about being happy and living a little?
happiness? what? i've never heard that word before.
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Damn...I mean education is important and all...I'd venture to say it's very important.
But you kids need to lighten up a little. Seriously. Spend your whole life trying to keep up with the Jones's and the the Browns and all this competition will make you successful maybe, but what about being happy and living a little?
Most of the appeal of these schools for me is their ability to nourish intellectual growth, not the fact that they're going to make me monetarily successful in life. I mean, I'm probably going to end up with an English degree or something equally useless, but at least I'll (hopefully) have been challenged and my mind (hopefully) will have been stretched to get there.
The stress is there, and there's no escaping, I may as well embrace it and try to do the best that I can.
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just go to your state school and do as many drugs as you possibly can. that way you have a built in defense when you flunk out/drop out/fuck up in some other way. in that at least your parents were only paying a few thousand dollars and not $35k or so. seriously, an undergrad degree doesn't mean too much anymore anyway. bachelor's is the new high school, graduate degree is the new bachelor's. you're not going to remember anything you learned anyway. well, as long as you actually do all those drugs.
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Originally posted by Graace:
Most of the appeal of these schools for me is their ability to nourish intellectual growth, not the fact that they're going to make me monetarily successful in life. I mean, I'm probably going to end up with an English degree or something equally useless, but at least I'll (hopefully) have been challenged and my mind (hopefully) will have been stretched to get there.
Then don't shoot for the top tier New England schools. >50% of the English majors there are going to try to land investment banking jobs when they graduate anyway. Go to Carleton or Pomona or Claremont, where your east coast background will help them round out their geographic diversity goals.
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yeah, why an emphasis on east coast schools? surely there are some left coast and fly-over schools that will give you the education and intellectual stimulation that you are seeking.
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Pomona is a great school, but do you really think we have a choice? Most of us who have been raised in Bethesda have been bred and had our entire lives leading up to the point we go to college. Can't say as to why, but that's just the way it is. My best friend has been strapped in for Harvard since the day she left the womb. If I had a choice, I'd be at some random art school in New York where I'm nice and happy, or maybe here at the Corcoran, and that would be that. But I've been instructed/stressed by my parents to do otherwise. I already know what I want to do with my life, and where I want to live. As long as I cooperate through high school, get good grades, and get into an exceptional college, I'm free to do whatever the hell I want with myself. And that's fine by me. I mean, it's really the best compromise I am going to get.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
yeah, why an emphasis on east coast schools? surely there are some left coast and fly-over schools that will give you the education and intellectual stimulation that you are seeking.
There are plenty of good West Coast schools...but first of all, we've got the Ivys down here. Second of all, I'm not really sure what Grace wants to study, but I am looking for a school that is not only exceptional academically, but has some sort of partnership with a fashion design or arts school. I want to study art, but I'm not allowed to go to an art school undergrad. So far, the only schools that have that available to me are Brown, Duke, and Wash U.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
yeah, why an emphasis on east coast schools? surely there are some left coast and fly-over schools that will give you the education and intellectual stimulation that you are seeking.
There are so so many west coast/left half of the country schools that I would love to go to. Any of the Claremont consortium, Reed, Macalaster, Carleton, a bunch of Canadian schools, etc. My parents have basically limited me to the east coast, with the farthest western possibility being someplace like Northwestern or U of C, or WashU in St Louis. They know I just wouldn't ever come home, and they do want to see me. Plus with the costs of college already being so high, they'd prefer not to have an expensive plane ticket to pay for every time they'd want to see me.
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Ever consider paying for school yourself and going wherever you want?
You say this is a good compromise but it doesn't sound like it to me. Work your ass off for 12 years just to go to some over-priced snooty school you never wanted to attend in the first place.
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I don't have a choice. I also don't think it's the worst thing in the world. I've been lucky enough to be born into a family that can afford to pay for a snotty East Coast school for me, and to have the opportunity to excell in a great high school. I don't mind working hard in school - I enjoy it sometimes, I do. The only thing that sucks is the stress, and feeling that you're expected to do these great things all the time. I feel like a caged up little robot.
How would I afford to pay for my own college?
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
There are plenty of good West Coast schools...but first of all, we've got the Ivys down here. Second of all, I'm not really sure what Grace wants to study, but I am looking for a school that is not only exceptional academically, but has some sort of partnership with a fashion design or arts school. I want to study art, but I'm not allowed to go to an art school undergrad. So far, the only schools that have that available to me are Brown, Duke, and Wash U. [/b]
I have no idea what I want to study as of now. I have ideas and interests, and I have some ideas about what I MIGHT like to do with my life, but I really don't want to go to a school where I'll be locked into a choice. Most of the schools I'm looking at have a fairly flexible credit system, in terms of requirement distribution and the application of credits to different categories of study, etc. Right now, I'm just seeking an excellent overall liberal arts education.
And as much as I wanted to hate the Ivies when I visited and say that they aren't all they're cracked up to be. . . they are pretty freaking cool. The opportunities that are afforded to students at schools with that much money, that much clout, such a high caliber faculty, etc. blew me away.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
I don't have a choice. I also don't think it's the worst thing in the world. I've been lucky enough to be born into a family that can afford to pay for a snotty East Coast school for me, and to have the opportunity to excell in a great high school. I don't mind working hard in school - I enjoy it sometimes, I do. The only thing that sucks is the stress, and feeling that you're expected to do these great things all the time. I feel like a caged up little robot.
How would I afford to pay for my own college?
Grants and loans and scholarships......loads of people do it. And you're right it certainly isn't the worst thing in the world, as long as you don't mind feeling like a caged up little robot, to use your own words. Not trying to give you a hard time, I'm sure it's not easy.
Just don't say you don't have a choice....that's the one thing we all have.
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Originally posted by Graace:
a fairly flexible credit system, in terms of requirement distribution and the application of credits to different categories of study, etc. [/QB]
i.e. Brown :)
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Ever consider paying for school yourself and going wherever you want?
You say this is a good compromise but it doesn't sound like it to me. Work your ass off for 12 years just to go to some over-priced snooty school you never wanted to attend in the first place.
The thing is that my parents aren't the ones pushing me to apply to a snooty school. Its the environment that surrounds me thats pressuring everyone. However, I'm not going to apply to a school where I don't think I would be happy, regardless of the name. Harvard, arguably one of the most respected, snooty names in academia, rubbed me the wrong way when I visited. I couldn't see myself there, and no matter how many times people tell me that with a Harvard degree you're set for life (not true anyway), I won't apply there, even if I knew one hundred percent I would be admitted.
I would love to be able to pay for college and take some of the load off of my parents' backs. They have another child to send too. However, I'm so so lucky to have a set of parents who have worked really hard to put away money for my education so that I won't have to spend my twenties and thirties paying off student loans like they did. I'm eternally grateful for that.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by Graace:
a fairly flexible credit system, in terms of requirement distribution and the application of credits to different categories of study, etc. [/b]
i.e. Brown :) [/QB]
Duh. I want to go there so I can take a neuroscience course just for curiosity's sake and not have to worry about acing the final.
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Even if notification is on the internet (of note, all the OC kids got letters in the mail, so they could dramatically carry them to their rooms/throw them away/stash them in a drawer), it wouldn't all be on the same day. Berkeley notifies the same day as Brown? Doubt it.
Every generation of kids thinks "it's harder now than it's ever been." Trust me, we all thought that in 1985.
And I also was looking at 20 or so schools that a lot of kids look at, with low acceptance rates relatively. You know what, I think I would have been happy anywhere I went. But you can't tell that to a 17 year old, I understand that...
But, that said, there are literally hundreds of amazing schools that will nourish your intellect and surround you with amazing people. Oberlin, Davison, Hobart, Dickinson, Skidmore, Reed, Union, Kenyon, Trinity, Colby...
Betty, you're obviously talking studio art rather than history or art or art theory? They've got studio art at I think every school my friends went to (Vassar, UNC, U of Fla, Colgate, Emory, Clemson).
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Originally posted by Graace:
Plus with the costs of college already being so high, they'd prefer not to have an expensive plane ticket to pay for every time they'd want to see me.
It's usually more expensive to fly to Detroit than San Francisco from DC.
Parents. I still don't get 'em.
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by you be betty:
I don't have a choice. I also don't think it's the worst thing in the world. I've been lucky enough to be born into a family that can afford to pay for a snotty East Coast school for me, and to have the opportunity to excell in a great high school. I don't mind working hard in school - I enjoy it sometimes, I do. The only thing that sucks is the stress, and feeling that you're expected to do these great things all the time. I feel like a caged up little robot.
How would I afford to pay for my own college?
Grants and loans and scholarships......loads of people do it. And you're right it certainly isn't the worst thing in the world, as long as you don't mind feeling like a caged up little robot, to use your own words. Not trying to give you a hard time, I'm sure it's not easy.
Just don't say you don't have a choice....that's the one thing we all have. [/b]
Except, you missed my point. I WANT to go to Brown. I really, really do. I want to go wherever the hell I can study art and make my parents happy. I can tell you right now, I don't want to get involved in the whole student loan bit. I'm not talented enough to get a scholarship to an art school. And art schools are more expensive and probably the worst idea if I were going to go somewhere to defy my parents, because supplies are almost as expensive as the education itself.
I mind feeling like a caged up robot sure, but I've gotten kind of used to it. I've figured out what I can do on the weekends to make me happy, as long as I keep my grades up (hi, 9:30), I've found a nice release, and I've got about as much independence as I can get without living alone. I'd rather bite my lip for the next couple of years and just proceed to work my ass off, than really defy any parentals or piss anyone off. When it comes time to apply to college (and I've got another year), I'll make sure I'm somewhere that I can be happy and do my arts/academic thing. Right now, the only places I can do that are two of the top schools in the US, so I have to keep getting straight A's in order to ensure that I'm at Duke or Brown, or something of the sort. And I think I'll be just fine :)
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thank you betty and grace for your thoughtful responses. . but again, you aren't making these decisions, you are being forced to make them by someone else (be it parents or friends). maybe its just the culture of d.c./east coast (i grew up in california and wanted nothing else but to get away from the west coast and my parents- course, i'm back in california, so much for that), but i just couldn't imagine giving or receiving such pressure to conform to other people's wishes.
again, that's probably half the reason most of us actively participate on this board- we are conforming non-conformists. geez, i can't remember the last time i used conform so much, next thing you know i'll start using the word grok and use it correctly.
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That's not very rock n' roll at all...
See what happens when the kids listen to Death Cab instead of AC/DC?
Originally posted by you be betty:
I'd rather bite my lip for the next couple of years and just proceed to work my ass off, than really defy any parentals or piss anyone off.
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Fair enough. Keep up the hard work.
Like I said, don't mean to give anyone a hard time.
And remember, your Uncle Chaz never cracked a book in high school and flunked out of college in 3 semesters. And I've got really nice house in a great neighborhood with great schools, great wife, great kids, nice career, nice toys...all without ever doing any school work at all!!!
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For parents to pay for your college education is a gift, and you should be eternally grateful. Sounds like you both see that, which puts you ahead in the game (that would be the game of life). When I saw friends around me in their twenties and thirties dealing with student loans, I understood how great/helpful/generous it was that my Dad put me through. I don't think I realized it at the time (and it's hard to realize, especially at particular schools where you can be surrounded by kids with enormous wealth and privilege. Shit, I went to school with one of Rupert Murdoch's kids! Oy, that was very hard sometimes...).
Good luck to you both, but just in case, you can be happy a lot of places! ;)
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Originally posted by Bags:
Even if notification is on the internet (of note, all the OC kids got letters in the mail, so they could dramatically carry them to their rooms/throw them away/stash them in a drawer), it wouldn't all be on the same day. Berkeley notifies the same day as Brown? Doubt it.
Every generation of kids thinks "it's harder now than it's ever been." Trust me, we all thought that in 1985.
And I also was looking at 20 or so schools that a lot of kids look at, with low acceptance rates relatively. You know what, I think I would have been happy anywhere I went. But you can't tell that to a 17 year old, I understand that...
But, that said, there are literally hundreds of amazing schools that will nourish your intellect and surround you with amazing people. Oberlin, Davison, Hobart, Dickinson, Skidmore, Reed, Union, Kenyon, Trinity, Colby...
Betty, you're obviously talking studio art rather than history or art or art theory? They've got studio art at I think every school my friends went to (Vassar, UNC, U of Fla, Colgate, Emory, Clemson).
I am doing studio art (with my specialty being in figurework). Photography in my spare time, too. HOWEVER - I want to go into fashion design. There is no fashion class at whitman either, so I'm also doing our extracurricular "fashion society" in my spare time. I just designed and made 11 full outfits, from scratch, for a show.
I've wanted to go into the fashion industry ever since I was in fifth grade sketching dresses at recess. My grandma was a relatively successful dress designer back in the day, too. It's just one of those things that I've known I want to do. I used to do a lot of the singing and musicals, too, but I backed away from that in the last couple of years because I've felt that I held slightly more talent in the fashion department. So I'm just singing and playing shit now in my spare time. Anyway.
The PROBLEM is that, 90% of the schools out there that have great programs have nada about fashion design or merchandising. And, most of the schools with fashion courses available are the real hardcore art ones: Pratt, Parsons, FIT, RISD, FIDM, etc. etc.
My parents want me to get a general college education before I do fashion, so I have a college degree. They tell me that a degree from an art school will land me nothing but art-related jobs. They also know that I have the grades and background and capability to go to law or business or med school, if I really wanted to. They want me to have something to fall back on if I fail in the fashion industry, or change my mind. Perfectly understandable.
BUT, they also say that it wouldn't be such a bad idea to go to a traditional university, and do the Pratt or Parsons or whatever thing for grad school. But you know what? I'm not getting any younger. I know that I want to do this, and I have the determination, talent, perspective, and balls to become a great fashion designer. And I'm not afraid to say that. So, why not do both? I'd like to do both. As of now, the only schools I am aware of with partnership programs are Brown, Duke (which we just found out about about a week ago), and Wash U. Brown was the first one I found out about with the partnership with RISD...and RISD is one of the best places to go for a great fashion education. So that's my story. I wish it were as simple as just finding a school with studio art.
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by you be betty:
How would I afford to pay for my own college?
Grants and loans and scholarships......loads of people do it. And you're right it certainly isn't the worst thing in the world, as long as you don't mind feeling like a caged up little robot, to use your own words. Not trying to give you a hard time, I'm sure it's not easy.
Just don't say you don't have a choice....that's the one thing we all have. [/b]
You gotta be kidding me moment: I'm at college for a month - parents call "Honey, we decided you are paying for school."
I think, "Damn, I should've gone to NOVA."
I paid for it. (Albeit, working over breaks and paying bills into my 20s...it's paid for though. :) )
Note: fashion/art are the most expensive majors!
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That's right. They don't call 'em starving artists for nothing. Tubes of paint are already about $8 a pop.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Even if notification is on the internet (of note, all the OC kids got letters in the mail, so they could dramatically carry them to their rooms/throw them away/stash them in a drawer), it wouldn't all be on the same day. Berkeley notifies the same day as Brown? Doubt it.
December 15th, that's generally the magic day.
Believe me, I'm counting down to it.
Oy, college. I just want to get in and go.
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
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Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
i don't know if this is the answer you are looking for, but. . looking back, i am amazed at how fondly i think of the town that my college is located. obviously, that's simply because of the good times i have associated with living in that town, the people i met, and the friends i made. the most enjoyable parts of my college experience were going to bars with friends, driving to austin for concerts, and driving around the texas country-side, just wandering around.
academically. . .well, that's a bit harder to say. i found a great desire in learning about medieval history, and have tried to continue my interest in it ever since. i made friends with people that were interested in many different things, and wanted to learn, mainly because we were all liberal arts majors. as such we had a great disdain of business majors (except for econ. majors, at least they were thinking, we reasoned).
there is also alot of personal growth that i experienced while in college- first taste of freedom (mine was tempered because i went to religious university), being resonsible for your own actions, and so forth. i mean, you are paying the college to learn, so if you aren't going to classes, then you are wasting your money. the funny thing about it. . you don't realize how much you've grown until you've left (be it personal, spiritual/religious, world perspective, et al.).
however, what i most wish i could say is that i remember the drinking. . alas, i cannot remember most of those nights.
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For what it's worth, I only applied to one university (not quite Ivy, but real close), and I graduated in the top 1% of my high school class with a near perfect GPA. I had no doubt I would be accepted really, so I wasn't worried. However, I applied via their Early Decision program. If I didn't get accepted via Early Decision, there would still have been time to apply elsewhere. Not that there really were any other schools on my radar. Anyway, if Brown is your first choice by a wide margin, you might want to consider Early Decision, assuming Brown has something like that. The best part about Early Decision is that you find out in December and the stress is gone (if you've been accepted, of course). Meanwhile, all your peers are still stressing out until like March or whenever colleges normally send out their acceptance letters.
Not that anyone cares, but something like 80% of my tuition was paid by a combination of performance-based (i.e., scholarship grants) and need-based financial aid. I paid about 15% in student loans (which took me like 4 years to pay off). My parents paid about 5%. If you have rich parents though, I guess you can forget about any need-based financial aid...
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Brown differed everyone (at least from my school) that applied early decision this year.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Brown differed everyone (at least from my school) that applied early decision this year.
who did they differ you from? people that could spell deferred? sorry couldn't resist :D
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Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
1. Music scene
2. Female scene
3. Drug scene
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i'm a little thankful that my college application process was so abnormal because i missed out on most of the stress.
at the begining of the year i thought i wanted to go to reed, but my dad's been pushing this one school on me since i was seven and made me do a weekend visit there. i liked it so much i started my application essays the day i came back. i wasn't sure that i'd get in because i have really awful grades and i was a junior to boot but i guess they didn't mind because a little less than two weeks after all the stuff was in i got my letter. i guess most of my experience was a result of the school, it's super small and i guess they don't get many applicants because i think the acceptance rate is 67% or something.
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Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
i'm a little thankful that my college application process was so abnormal because i missed out on most of the stress.
at the begining of the year i thought i wanted to go to reed, but my dad's been pushing this one school on me since i was seven and made me do a weekend visit there. i liked it so much i started my application essays the day i came back. i wasn't sure that i'd get in because i have really awful grades and i was a junior to boot but i guess they didn't mind because a little less than two weeks after all the stuff was in i got my letter. i guess most of my experience was a result of the school, it's super small and i guess they don't get many applicants because i think the acceptance rate is 67% or something.
What's the school?
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st. john's
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Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
jesuits are great teachers
that said, the law school application process is just as bad, if not worse, than what you're describing with undergrad these days ... all the focus on one shitty assessment exam, one arbitrary ranking system, and the "prestige" of the school (and how that all snowballs into actual employment) is just sick
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Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
st. john's
hissssss
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
st. john's
hissssss [/b]
aww, what's wrong with it?
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Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
aww, what's wrong with it?
their basketball program ... welcome to the big east
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oh, i always forget there's another one... i'm going to the one in annapolis http://www.sjca.edu/asp/home.aspx (http://www.sjca.edu/asp/home.aspx)
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
jesuits are great teachers
that said, the law school application process is just as bad, if not worse, than what you're describing with undergrad these days ... all the focus on one shitty assessment exam, one arbitrary ranking system, and the "prestige" of the school (and how that all snowballs into actual employment) is just sick [/b]
I've got a few Jesuit education associations as clients....very cool and nice people. Though I must admit, never being religious it was strange for me being around all those priests at first!
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Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
This question is trippy. (Practice those essay Q&A's. :) )
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
Originally posted by you be betty:
Brown differed everyone (at least from my school) that applied early decision this year.
who did they differ you from? people that could spell deferred? sorry couldn't resist :D [/b]
I KNEW it had an e!
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Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
oh, i always forget there's another one... i'm going to the one in annapolis http://www.sjca.edu/asp/home.aspx (http://www.sjca.edu/asp/home.aspx)
ahh, someone i knew from high school went there, looks like an interesting place
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
For what it's worth, I only applied to one university (not quite Ivy, but real close), and I graduated in the top 1% of my high school class with a near perfect GPA. I had no doubt I would be accepted really, so I wasn't worried. However, I applied via their Early Decision program. If I didn't get accepted via Early Decision, there would still have been time to apply elsewhere. Not that there really were any other schools on my radar. Anyway, if Brown is your first choice by a wide margin, you might want to consider Early Decision, assuming Brown has something like that. The best part about Early Decision is that you find out in December and the stress is gone (if you've been accepted, of course). Meanwhile, all your peers are still stressing out until like March or whenever colleges normally send out their acceptance letters.
I'm definitely applying early decision there.
I'm also applying Rolling Admission to the University of Michigan Honors Program. . its non binding and I'll find out in October probably, so if I get in, it will be a huge stress relief. Not my first choice, but I wouldn't be miserable there, and its a great school.
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
1. Music scene
2. Female scene
3. Drug scene [/b]
Is it bad that the music scene in a given city/college town is actually affecting my decisions? Going to shows is probably as big a part of my life right now as it can be for an unemployed 16 year old, and I think I would DIE if there wasn't at least SOMETHING to fill that void.
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Originally posted by Graace:
Is it bad that the music scene in a given city/college town is actually affecting my decisions? Going to shows is probably as big a part of my life right now as it can be for an unemployed 16 year old, and I think I would DIE if there wasn't at least SOMETHING to fill that void.
that's what the beer is for.
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Originally posted by Graace:
Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
1. Music scene
2. Female scene
3. Drug scene [/b]
Is it bad that the music scene in a given city/college town is actually affecting my decisions? Going to shows is probably as big a part of my life right now as it can be for an unemployed 16 year old, and I think I would DIE if there wasn't at least SOMETHING to fill that void. [/b]
No way...not bad at all. There's a little something called Quality of Life...and without that everything else is just bullshit. That's really the point I've been getting at this whole thread.
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IAN: Oh there's uhh...the other thing is that the uh...the Boston gig has been cancelled.
NIGEL: What?
IAN: Yeah. I wouldn't worry about it though, it's not a big college town.
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by Graace:
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Is it bad that the music scene in a given city/college town is actually affecting my decisions? Going to shows is probably as big a part of my life right now as it can be for an unemployed 16 year old, and I think I would DIE if there wasn't at least SOMETHING to fill that void. [/qb]
No way...not bad at all. There's a little something called Quality of Life...and without that everything else is just bullshit. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Amen to that!
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I'm sure you'd find other interests.
Originally posted by Graace:
Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
1. Music scene
2. Female scene
3. Drug scene [/b]
Is it bad that the music scene in a given city/college town is actually affecting my decisions? Going to shows is probably as big a part of my life right now as it can be for an unemployed 16 year old, and I think I would DIE if there wasn't at least SOMETHING to fill that void. [/b]
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Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
st. john's
Awesome school...
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
oh, i always forget there's another one... i'm going to the one in annapolis http://www.sjca.edu/asp/home.aspx (http://www.sjca.edu/asp/home.aspx)
ahh, someone i knew from high school went there, looks like an interesting place [/b]
That's the one I thought you meant, with the Great Books curriculum. I kinda wish I'd had the guts to go there...as a 17 year old it made me kind of nervous, being so small and with the unorthodox curriculum. Very cool.
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Originally posted by Chaz Nakatestes, Breaststroking Guy:
I'm sure you'd find other interests.
Originally posted by Graace:
Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
1. Music scene
2. Female scene
3. Drug scene [/b]
Is it bad that the music scene in a given city/college town is actually affecting my decisions? Going to shows is probably as big a part of my life right now as it can be for an unemployed 16 year old, and I think I would DIE if there wasn't at least SOMETHING to fill that void. [/b]
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Yeah...see...nope.
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Originally posted by Chaz Nakatestes, Breaststroking Guy:
I'm sure you'd find other interests.
Originally posted by Graace:
Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?
1. Music scene
2. Female scene
3. Drug scene [/b]
Is it bad that the music scene in a given city/college town is actually affecting my decisions? Going to shows is probably as big a part of my life right now as it can be for an unemployed 16 year old, and I think I would DIE if there wasn't at least SOMETHING to fill that void. [/b]
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oops. i double posted accidentally.
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This post, while on a personal level was laughable, on a professional level provided a tremendous amount of insight into the mindset of college applicants these days. Congrats Graace and Betty, what you've written here is going to be the subject of our next enrollment/recruitment meeting.