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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: walkonby on November 08, 2007, 04:02:00 pm
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it is weird. devendra banhart and the tiny masters of today. so much press, so much coolness associated with them, one would think they are the new nirvana, the new run-dmc of a musical movement mainstream that must be mass followed by those "who know their shit." i listened . . . and paused . . . and listened, and was like, wtf--this is considered music? but these people are cool, correct? did i want be cool, too? it was the same thing back in 1990 when i first heard sonic youth, because all the underground cool kids loved them, and i thought they sucked ass biscuits. now i worship them as a revolution. my point is, that after repeated listening to devendra and the tiny tater-tots, i like it. i forced myself to like it. was it wrong? is cool wrong?
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X was a band I really had to force myself to like, I couldn't stand John Doe and Exene's vocals initially, but the more I heard them together, the more sense it made. I also had started off with their first 2 LP's, and I discovered "Under the Big Black Sun" and "The New World" and those are probably my 2 favorites.
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I've had several friends that I consider to have great taste in music that have tried to get me into Devandra. It just bores me. I don't get the hype at all. That said, if someone digs it, I'm glad DB is there for em.
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I don't get it either.
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Maybe I'll download a disc or 2 from one of the oink replacements and give him an honest shot.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Maybe I'll download a disc or 2 from one of the oink replacements and give him a felonious shot.
there you go, i fixed it
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Hey it's better than no shot at all, isn't it?
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I did the same thing with The Hold Steady. Although, I should have taken to them immediately because their style is what I like. I had to listen to Boys & Girls for well over a month. I couldn't stand Separation Sunday when it first came out but I like it now.
That's crazy someone mentioned X. I just listed to the Los Angeles reissue yesterday. There are a few songs on there I like and a few on Under the Big Black Sun. I can't force myself to like X as much as most of the cool kids.
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I still don't like the Hold Steady.
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OK I listened to part of Cripple Crow and still think he sounds like a cross between a watered down Wooden Wand and a watered down Ben Chasny.
Both those guys are exponentially better and more original and haven't gotten nearly the same amount of press. Damn shame.
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I still don't like Hold Steady, and after repeated attempts, I don't like Ted Leo either.
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TVOTR was a band I had to put a decent amount of time into and eventually was satisfied that I did.
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Animal Collective was another.
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not really liking the Dust Galaxy record... (phew got that one off my chest)
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Yeah, we posted an interview with Rob last night with a link to the album stream, after 4 songs I was bored out of my mind. Svet assured me it got better as the album went on but I haven't given it another go yet.
Devendra on the other hand, is a God to me. Listen to Seahorse off the new record. I had to pull over to the side of the road the first time I listened to it, it was just too beautiful to handle. Took me a little while to get into him though, which often happens with really original music, I've listened to stuff and been like "man, I'm going to really love this after like 5 listens when I actually get it"
Originally posted by kosmo:
not really liking the Dust Galaxy record... (phew got that one off my chest)
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Yea, I liked Devendra Banhart when he was called Marc Bolan/Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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Devandra Burnhart is a fucking gross stupid hippie making shitty ass music for drips. If you like him, you probably suck your own cock three times a day, regardless if you're a guy or girl.
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but what about tiny masters of today? any opinion of them? took me awhile as well to handle them. the most pain and suffering i went through to enjoy a single band was, the grateful dead, which i happily listen to at any given occasion with a smile on my face.
three times a day? wow. i'll listen to tanya tucker for that doggie ability.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Devandra Burnhart is a fucking gross stupid hippie making shitty ass music for drips. If you like him, you probably suck your own cock three times a day, regardless if you're a guy or girl.
Did you forget that you weren't signed in as Brian Wallace?
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I've tried time and time again to get into the dead but it just didn't happen.
I do like 93-95 phish and some of the output from a couple other jambands, though. Go figure.
Originally posted by walkonby:
but what about tiny masters of today? any opinion of them? took me awhile as well to handle them. the most pain and suffering i went through to enjoy a single band was, the grateful dead, which i happily listen to at any given occasion with a smile on my face.
three times a day? wow. i'll listen to tanya tucker for that doggie ability.
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It's so hard to look past the scene and reputation surrounding Phish to realize they actually wrote a few decent songs. Funny that Billy Breathes was actually on Pitchfork's Top 100 Albums of the 90's before it got the redux treatment.
As for other jam bands, I think the only other ones I can stomach are the crossover acts like Medeski, Martin, & Wood and Bela Fleck. MMW kills it live in the right setting.
ps. I hate hippies
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
I've tried time and time again to get into the dead but it just didn't happen.
I do like 93-95 phish and some of the output from a couple other jambands, though. Go figure.
Originally posted by walkonby:
but what about tiny masters of today? any opinion of them? took me awhile as well to handle them. the most pain and suffering i went through to enjoy a single band was, the grateful dead, which i happily listen to at any given occasion with a smile on my face.
three times a day? wow. i'll listen to tanya tucker for that doggie ability.
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speaking of phish (which i loved from the first note i heard), you gotta smile on the howard stern callers. a phish archivist (i.e. hard-core pot dealer and smoker) was on the sirius jam band channel on friday promoting the new phish cd release. they took some calls. the first caller wanted to know if backstage, trey (lead singer) had ever shown his ball sack to anyone. or if page (keyboards) had ever given trey a "rusty trombone?" classic.