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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bartelby on May 29, 2006, 04:21:00 pm
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This bulletin was sent earlier today by Gary Lighbody from Snow Patrol's MySpace site:
From: Snow Patrol
Date: May 29, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: TONIGHTS SHOW IN ATLANTA AND WEDNESDAY IN DC POSTPONED!!!!
Body: Hello all
Ive some bad news.
Were going to have to postpone the shows today, May 29, in Atlanta and Wednesday, May 31st in D.C.
We are trying to add these shows in at the end of this tour. Failing that we are back to do some radio shows in mid-August and we will schedule them there.
The reason for this is my voice is in pieces. You may have seen us on Good Morning America this morning and if you did youll be aware I barely scraped through it and that was only one song.
When we began the Eyes Open tour in Feb of this year I was told by my doctor a few days before hand that I had laryngitis and it would be best if I took a week off to recover. I told him I didnt have a week as we had shows pretty much every day. All the gigs so far have been a struggle for me. Unfortunately now I can barely hit any notes. My entire upper range has disappeared into a whisper.
Some of you may come to the conclusion that this is because were a party band and were out every night getting messed up. Yes we like a drink. I however have taken it reasonable easy since Feb in that department and I havent been drinking on this US tour at all and Ive every intention of not partying for the duration of it. In fact Ive been in the gym every morning and eating right.
In short Im taking it very seriously. The simple fact is that my voice is worn out.
I am doing everything possible to get it working again. I am seeing a specialist in New York tomorrow who hopefully will be able to help. Ive even agreed (horror of all horrors!!) to see a voice coach.
If there was any way to sing two full shows and do a full days promo in Atlanta and D.C believe me I would. The reason why the two shows have been affected is to give me four days to recover.
We refuse to cancel gigs which is why we will do everything in our power to find available dates (when we too are available) in those venues for the not to distant future.
I am so sorry for this to all of you who have bought tickets especially those of you who have travelled long distances to these shows. Of course we will make sure that these tickets are still valid, as I say they arent cancelled theyre just postponed. Well give you the info for the new shows as soon as we know.
Lots of love, gary.x
©2003-2006 MySpace.com All Rights Reserved.
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Originally posted by Bartelby:
Some of you may come to the conclusion that this is because were a party band and were out every night getting messed up.
when I think "party band", i think snow patrol.
anyone else see the "eyes open" highlight clip from baseball tonight this weekend? so sweet!!!
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Yeah, I hear you on that, Hoya.
Thanks for posting that, Bartleby. I gotta say, the pessimist in me is sure they'll reschedule for one of the 10 days I'm not in DC this summer.
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Mannnnnn...Snow Patrol used to be a great band (circa Songs for Polar Bears). Now their songs are middle of the road crap like the Goo Goo Dolls.
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I agree completely - not a huge fan of their newer stuff...especially this new album. I wish they would return to their sound from the early days.
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
Goo Goo Dolls.
goo goo dolls is definitely the best comparison i can think of for what i've heard from this new album
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by Joe M.:
Goo Goo Dolls.
goo goo dolls is definitely the best comparison i can think of for what i've heard from this new album [/b]
I believe i made this comparison on this very board like a month ago and i was shot down.
hmmm.
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Originally posted by the sonick:
I believe i made this comparison on this very board like a month ago and i was shot down.
not by me ... i've been a card-carrying snow patrol hater ever since i heard "run" =)
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Originally posted by Got Haggis?:
I agree completely - not a huge fan of their newer stuff...especially this new album. I wish they would return to their sound from the early days.
Add me to the list of those in agreement. It's sad when such a good band just let's the entire bottom fall out. I still love their first two albums but they just lost it and made themselves at home in the local frat houses.
Party on, Gary! :p
(With that said, I hope he heals soon.)
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
Mannnnnn...Snow Patrol used to be a great band (circa Songs for Polar Bears). Now their songs are middle of the road crap like the Goo Goo Dolls.
I don't think it's fair to compare Snow Patrol to a band that started out punk, went pop and wound up adult contemporary.
I think Snow Patrol brings much more than any Goo Goo Dolls type band. Their songs are rich and full emotion and so far they've stayed true to the sound they started out with. I've heard people call them a poor man's Coldplay, but then again I've heard people call Coldplay a poor man's Radiohead... and on and on and on.
They sound nothing like the Goo Goo Dolls, they look nothing like them, they're from a different country, they aren't trying to change their style, they don't have a pretty boy lead singer... I honestly just don't see any similarities????
Maybe when Snow Patrol resorts to doing Supertramp covers I'll jump on board with this lousy comparison.
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Just out of curiosity, who on this thread owns Eyes Open?I'm thinking the "James Blunt factor" is at work here; posters critiqueing a band's work without EVER listening to the cd. If you hate Chasing Cars you might not be too into music...sigh :roll:
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
They sound nothing like the Goo Goo Dolls
have you heard their single "hands open"? it has the same lowest-common-denominator clear-channel-friendly anthemic qualities that late-90s goo goo dolls tracks had (a little harder than "iris", but more like other singles they had around then) ... the comparison just in terms of sonic qualities seems pretty apt to me, they're obviously completely different bands when it comes to geography and history
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will refunds be available? will i be forced to wait until the show is rescheduled? this sucks.
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Aspire. Attain. Surpass.
The three words that aptly sum up the Goo Goo Dolls career to date ?? aspiration, attainment and the ability to surpass all expectations ?? are also the essential elements in the creation of Gutterflower, the trio??s brilliant new offering on Warner Bros. Records, featuring their stunning new single "Here Is Gone." "There??s no way we could rest on our laurels," asserts vocalist and guitarist John Rzeznik on the collective mindset the band brought to the writing and recording of their fourth major label release. "No matter how successful we were going into this record, we all felt we were starting from scratch, as if we were making a record for the first time. Sure, you learn from experience, but the important thing is to keep it fresh, to stay alive to the possibilities and potential of the music. You can never take that for granted."
So much for Aspiration. And, while it??s true that success too often breeds complacency, for the Goo Goo Dolls it??s only served to bring them closer to the fundamentals of their fifteen-year partnership. "We never really bought in to the whole rock star myth," John continues, before adding with a laugh, "Well, we might have 'rented in' for a weekend here and there, but in the end it always comes back to the music. For us, success ?? real success ?? is one song at a time."
That??s the way it??s always been for the Goo Goo Dolls. From their earliest days on the rough-and-tumble Northeast music scene through years of playing according to bassist Robby Takac ?? "every one night stand in American, twice," through their obligatory stint in the indie records realm, the band have combined an unerring instinct for original and authentic music with a hardcore work ethic that is nothing short of inspirational.
It was that mix of talent and sweat equity that paid off with the 1998 release of Dizzy Up The Girl, a breakthrough in every sense of the word, with worldwide sales approaching six million and counting and a string of smash singles including the epochal "Iris," as well as "Slide," "Black Balloon" and the title track. Together, Dizzy??s hits have racked up an historic one million radio spins to date. Two solid years of international touring followed the album??s release and, while the band and its fans could be forgiven for concluding that the Goo Goo Dolls had finally ??arrived,? it was that restless urge to turn the next creative corner that kept the trio cranking.
Which brings us to Attainment. After a well-deserved six-month hiatus, the group reconvened to compile a long overdue career retrospective. With the revealing title of What I Learned About Ego, Opinion, Art & Commerce, the 22-track collection was, says Robby, "A way for people to get caught up on what came before 'Iris.' We??ve been at this a long time and we??re proud of what we??ve done. This was our way of acknowledging that history."
It was in the fall of 2001 that John and Robby, along with drummer Mike Malinin and producer Rob Cavallo (the man behind the boards for Dizzy Up The Girl) began assembling the elements of a new album. "Of course our success was a factor going in," asserts John. "How could it not be? We worked our asses off to get to this place, and we didn??t want to disappoint ourselves or our fans. But more than that, we wanted to see where the music would take us. We??d been living in a fishbowl for three years, and it felt good to get back to basics."
"Basics" in this case included recording with an array of vintage instruments in the confines of Hollywood??s legendary Capitol Records Studios. "The place had a real vibe," John continues. "I even put up some velvet drapes and a memorial bar in honor of Sinatra and all the others who had recorded there. Along with using the old equipment, it helped us keep in touch with the sound we were after. With digital technology you??re always fighting against something antiseptic. We needed that edge to keep it real." "The whole process took about four months," continues Robby, "which is about normal for us. The pressure was definitely on, but that didn??t change our approach. We had an incredible team, especially Rob Cavallo, who totally understands what we??re about and our engineers Allen Sides and Ken Allerdyce. In the studio, the difference between success and failure can come down to how many inches there are between microphones. We depended on them totally to make those calls."
With all the elements in place, it remained for the Goo Goo Dolls to grapple with the greatest challenge of their career ?? to create music that would both build on and surpass the extraordinary accomplishments that preceded it. And it??s in this final category that Gutterflower represents a full-on, flat-out triumph. Simply put, the twelve tracks that comprise this potent and persuasive tour de force not only exceed every available expectation, but also create a whole new standard for the energy and emotional impact that has always been the hallmark of genuine rock & roll. It always starts, of course, with the songs. On Gutterflower both John and Robby seemed to have taken a leap from an already impressive perch, fashioning music and lyrics into a resonant and revealing listening experience far greater than the sum of its parts. On that rarest of occurrences ?? an album with no throwaway tracks ?? it??s impossible single out any one selection for special attention except to say here is a collection of songs that manages to convey universal insights in highly personal terms.
"I think, if there??s a theme to these songs, it about being honest with yourself and with others, and seeking out those who will return the favor," John ventures. "Our experiences over the past three years have taught us to appreciate friendship, love and loyalty?those basic human values. When we??re writing about characters we??ve encountered and scenes we??ve survived, it??s that need for connection that comes through and hopefully everyone can relate to that. Otherwise, you??re just talking to yourself."
The assured and accessible lyrics of Gutterflower are matched, note for note, with music that both celebrates the band??s stylistic diversity and conclusively consolidates their cohesive ensemble sound. From their trademark blood-and-thunder alchemy to glorious acoustic outings to a soundscape wholly their own, the Goo Goo Dolls, on Gutterflower, have expanded their expressive range in dazzling new directions.
[Bless you if you made it this far -- I didn't. What's funny is that this is from Filter Magazine online, not the band's PR kit....same diff. Somebody's trying to impress, and it's website writer guy!!!]
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IMHO the world would be a pretty dull place if everyone liked the same artists/bands/music... As it is there are already enough Celine Dion, Enya, Mannheim Steamroller and Chicago fans in the world.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Aspire. Attain. Surpass.
This HAS to be a joke.
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
Maybe when Snow Patrol resorts to doing Supertramp covers I'll jump on board with this lousy comparison.
Beyonce covers dont count?
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by Bags:
Aspire. Attain. Surpass.
This HAS to be a joke. [/b]
Is that hysterical or what?!?
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on a side note, the new Primal Scream sucks too. But I will probably be in the minority with my views, since I loved the direction they took with Exterminator and Evil Heat....this one is more 'back to their roots' i guess.
doesn't look like kevin shields helped out at all on this one
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Originally posted by Got Haggis?:
on a side note, the new Primal Scream sucks too. But I will probably be in the minority with my views, since I loved the direction they took with Exterminator and Evil Heat....this one is more 'back to their roots' i guess.
doesn't look like kevin shields helped out at all on this one
i like that song "Country Girl"
i am looking forward to a tour.......if thats happening.
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Originally posted by joeblowblow:
will refunds be available? will i be forced to wait until the show is rescheduled? this sucks.
As always 9:30 policy is that refunds are only offered when a show is cancelled. When a show is rescheduled we honor all tickets to the original date.
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
Originally posted by joeblowblow:
will refunds be available? will i be forced to wait until the show is rescheduled? this sucks.
As always 9:30 policy is that refunds are only offered when a show is cancelled. When a show is rescheduled we honor all tickets to the original date. [/b]
what if you just got the Goo Goo Dolls to play tonight instead?
they could throw in a couple snow patrol songs in between Iris and Slide!!!
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
As always 9:30 policy is that refunds are only offered when a show is cancelled. When a show is rescheduled we honor all tickets to the original date.
Aren't you required to offer refunds if the date changes? I mean, if you buy a ticket for a show for a specific date, and that show doesn't take place, how can you not offer a refund?
FWIW - I don't have tickets for this - I'm just curious.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Aren't you required to offer refunds if the date changes?
required by whom?
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by Shadrach:
As always 9:30 policy is that refunds are only offered when a show is cancelled. When a show is rescheduled we honor all tickets to the original date.
Aren't you required to offer refunds if the date changes? I mean, if you buy a ticket for a show for a specific date, and that show doesn't take place, how can you not offer a refund?
FWIW - I don't have tickets for this - I'm just curious. [/b]
No. We are not required to offer refunds to shows that are rescheduled. Venue's set their own ticketing policies and our refund policy is that we only offer refunds if a show is cancelled.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Aren't you required to offer refunds if the date changes?
This isn't California.....
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Aren't you required to offer refunds if the date changes?
This isn't California..... [/b]
I cant stop laughing....
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Aren't you required to offer refunds if the date changes?
required by whom? [/b]
Oh, I don't know. I thought maybe there was some obscure law that said if the date of an event changed, a refund had to be an option. Sort of a ticket-as-contract thing. The contract changes, so you have the option to bail. It seems a common enough practice that I thought it might be required. I guess not.
Shadrach answered my question, though I'm kind of surprised that's the official policy.
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that's a horrible policy, especially since most of these shows sell out. i recognize the challenge of reselling refunded tickets, particularly since you don't know how many people will want refunds, but this still completely screws me.
Any word on when the new dates are. It's tough to CL my tickets without a date.
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Originally posted by joeblowblow:
that's a horrible policy, especially since most of these shows sell out. i recognize the challenge of reselling refunded tickets, particularly since you don't know how many people will want refunds, but this still completely screws me.
Any word on when the new dates are. It's tough to CL my tickets without a date.
how do you know you cant go to the new date if they havent announced it?
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Originally posted by joeblowblow:
that's a horrible policy, especially since most of these shows sell out. i recognize the challenge of reselling refunded tickets, particularly since you don't know how many people will want refunds, but this still completely screws me.
Any word on when the new dates are. It's tough to CL my tickets without a date.
I can't imagine you having any trouble getting rid of your tickets if you are unable to attend the new date. This show was sold out weeks ago.
I can understand you being miffed that the date has been changed and sad that you may miss the show, but how does our policy "screw" you? We didn't ask Snow Patrol to reschedule. Trust me when I say that we would much rather be having the show tonight.
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Because I no longer live in DC, and it's a pain in the ass to unload tickets from out of town.
Perhaps 'screws' was a bit strong. I'd imagine you guys are screwed a bit more, what with not getting all the money I (and everyone else) would have spent on beer tonight.
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Dang this makes me sad :(
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You know, putting all contract details aside, public relations goes a looong way in the business world. I suspect that the band understands this from the tone of their letter. It's one thing to be fiercely loyal to one's employer but it would do everyone well for certain employees to brush up on these skills.
Kind of goes along side that old addage, "Penny wise and pound foolish."
From past experience, I suspect that if anyone has such a heartship due to this change, I bet that the club would be willing to work something out quietly offline. But I don't know that for sure. It's just the impression that I've always had.
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Oh, I was going to ask. Where can I read the club's policy on all this sort of thing?
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Originally posted by joeblowblow:
Oh, I was going to ask. Where can I read the club's policy on all this sort of thing?
Read the back of your ticket:
In bold letters it states: THERE MAY BE STRICT LIMITATIONS ON CASH REFUND OR CREDIT ISSUED FOR CANCELLED EVENTS.
It goes on to say:
This policy may be amended at anytime without notice.
As I said before due to the high demand for tickets to this show I can't imagine anyone having a great deal of difficulty getting rid of tickets they can't use.
We are working on nailing down a make-up date and will announce it just as soon as one is confirmed.
Thanks for your patience and understanding.
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In fact, those of y'all who can't attend the new date can probably sell your tickets at twice face value. Not here on the forum, of course. ;)
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Aren't you required to offer refunds if the date changes?
This isn't California..... [/b]
Actually if tickets were sold via ticketmaster, there would be a refund in the event of a postponement...regardless of state.
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
Actually if tickets were sold via ticketmaster, there would be a refund in the event of a postponement...regardless of state.
That ain't so:
"Ticketmaster typically only offers refunds and/or exchanges based on the promoter's, team's or venue's instructions. In order to receive a refund or an exchange that may be offered, you will have to comply with the promoter's, team's or venue's instructions or deadlines, which, along with the decision about whether or not to issue a refund or an exchange, may be at the promoter's, team's or venue's discretion."
http://www.ticketmaster.com/h/cancelled.html (http://www.ticketmaster.com/h/cancelled.html)
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
Actually if tickets were sold via ticketmaster, there would be a refund in the event of a postponement...regardless of state.
GGW's right - 10 years from now you'll all get refunds for postponement, but right now, only CA.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by Joe M.:
Actually if tickets were sold via ticketmaster, there would be a refund in the event of a postponement...regardless of state.
That ain't so:
"Ticketmaster typically only offers refunds and/or exchanges based on the promoter's, team's or venue's instructions. In order to receive a refund or an exchange that may be offered, you will have to comply with the promoter's, team's or venue's instructions or deadlines, which, along with the decision about whether or not to issue a refund or an exchange, may be at the promoter's, team's or venue's discretion."
http://www.ticketmaster.com/h/cancelled.html (http://www.ticketmaster.com/h/cancelled.html) [/b]
Ahh, but from past experience, I've gotten refunds EVEN for lineup changes and/or time changes, and definitely postponements.
But they may have been from ticketweb, not ticketmaster.
I guess the lesson to be had here is that if you're not sure you're gonna make it to a show at the 930 - don't buy a ticket.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Joe M.:
Actually if tickets were sold via ticketmaster, there would be a refund in the event of a postponement...regardless of state.
GGW's right - 10 years from now you'll all get refunds for postponement, but right now, only CA. [/b]
Sorry to disappoint, but thats not quite the truth. i had tix to see people in planes at the bowery, and they moved their show to another venue, since blue october couldnt play. refunds were given even tho the event was rescheduled. that could be thanks to ticketweb (part of ticketmaster? perhaps). but i did write the bowery and they were also willing to give me a refund. on top of it, bowery encouraged me to get a refund for the people in planes show since it was cheaper at the mercury. LOL im surprised that tickets.com dont give refunds for a show thats been rescheduled. i got enough refunds out of them in the past.
but thankfully i should be seeing snow patrol sat. night in NYC assuming they dont cancel here as well.
havent heard much of their new stuff - but dont see how in the hell they can be compared to the goo goo dolls. i see them being more similar to travis than any goo goo dolls stuff. and speaking of travis, wonder what ever happened to them.
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Joe M.:
Actually if tickets were sold via ticketmaster, there would be a refund in the event of a postponement...regardless of state.
GGW's right - 10 years from now you'll all get refunds for postponement, but right now, only CA. [/b]
Sorry to disappoint, but thats not quite the truth. i had tix to see people in planes at the bowery, and they moved their show to another venue, since blue october couldnt play. refunds were given even tho the event was rescheduled. that could be thanks to ticketweb (part of ticketmaster? perhaps). but i did write the bowery and they were also willing to give me a refund. on top of it, bowery encouraged me to get a refund for the people in planes show since it was cheaper at the mercury. LOL im surprised that tickets.com dont give refunds for a show thats been rescheduled. i got enough refunds out of them in the past.
but thankfully i should be seeing snow patrol sat. night in NYC assuming they dont cancel here as well.
havent heard much of their new stuff - but dont see how in the hell they can be compared to the goo goo dolls. i see them being more similar to travis than any goo goo dolls stuff. and speaking of travis, wonder what ever happened to them. [/b]
Could the refund have had anything to do with the fact that the event changed venues and price? I imagine we would be giving refunds in that situation as well.
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Forgive me if I am wrong but I don't think that the ticket vendor is the one to make these decisions. It seems it's at the mercy of whomever has hired the vendor to take care of such matters. With that said, I do know that Ticketmaster is notorious for keeping their service fees when refunds are granted. I could be wrong about this but you have a lot of different players here with their irons in the fire so sometimes it will appear to be in one entity's hands when it's really due to another.
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New Snow Patrol date: Friday, June 23rd. 11pm Doors.
All 5/31 tickets will be honored.
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
New Snow Patrol date: Friday, June 23rd. 11pm Doors.
All 5/31 tickets will be honored.
Sucktastic. Out-o-town that day...
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Joe M.:
Actually if tickets were sold via ticketmaster, there would be a refund in the event of a postponement...regardless of state.
GGW's right - 10 years from now you'll all get refunds for postponement, but right now, only CA. [/b]
Sorry to disappoint, but thats not quite the truth. i had tix to see people in planes at the bowery, and they moved their show to another venue, since blue october couldnt play. refunds were given even tho the event was rescheduled. that could be thanks to ticketweb (part of ticketmaster? perhaps). but i did write the bowery and they were also willing to give me a refund. on top of it, bowery encouraged me to get a refund for the people in planes show since it was cheaper at the mercury. LOL im surprised that tickets.com dont give refunds for a show thats been rescheduled. i got enough refunds out of them in the past.
but thankfully i should be seeing snow patrol sat. night in NYC assuming they dont cancel here as well.
havent heard much of their new stuff - but dont see how in the hell they can be compared to the goo goo dolls. i see them being more similar to travis than any goo goo dolls stuff. and speaking of travis, wonder what ever happened to them. [/b]
Could the refund have had anything to do with the fact that the event changed venues and price? I imagine we would be giving refunds in that situation as well. [/b]
actually the event was rescheduled ala snow patrol. but the openers (people in planes) just happened to be having a show the same night at the mercury. but the headliner (and people in planes) are still playing the bowery for their "original" date. but if im correct i think bowery and mercury share ownership? im not sure, but i figured that was the only reason bowery told me to get a refund and see PIP for cheaper. im not sure how many people tried to get a refund, because i guess if you liked blue october you'd still wanna see them.
im not saying 9:30 should do this, i just thought it was interesting.