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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: on November 23, 2004, 12:34:00 am
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I saw a car yesterday that had 4 of them. There was a red one, the ubiquitous yellow one, a red/blue one, and a camo one, too! Then I saw a blue one, "Pray for Delaware Correction Officers"...and I though that it signalled the deathknell of this fad. And then I saw a pink one. I wonder what the pink ones say? "Support Our Gay Troops???"
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Originally posted by marquee smith:
II wonder what the pink ones say?
Breast cancer? Or is that yellow?
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breast cancer, yes: http://www.pinkribbon.com/ (http://www.pinkribbon.com/)
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If people want to contribute to charity or causes so bad, do they really need a fucking magnet? Just right the check or volunteer stupid! By putting that shit all over your car or wherever for that matter, all you're saying is that "I gave just so that I could show the world that I do something for the common good by putting this fucking magnet on my car so that everyone can see how nice I really am." It is just as bad as the religious fish on cars. Ugghhh!
Maybe they should have one that says "Wannabe Martyr" and maybe that would cover everyone.
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Sure...perhaps a truly selfless act is one that only you know about. But is it so bad to put a ribbon on your car to spread awareness?
Anyway....
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What color ribbon is prostate cancer? Is there a ribbon for herpes, as well?
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Light Blue for Prostate Cancer...
Significant? (http://www.productsforthecure.com/pages/ribbons.html)
i've seen a much more comprehensive list, but cant seek to google it at the moment...
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That cannot be! It is a blasphemy.
Blue is "pray for delaware correction officers".
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Feeling Creative? (http://www.ribbonomatic.com/matic/ribbon-o-matic.html)
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<img src="http://www.ribbonomatic.com/matic/makegraphic.cgi?result=like;message=Support%20Our%20Gay%20Troops;hexcolor=Pink;fontcolor=White;bgcolor=teal;source_id=1;font_id=18;font_size=" alt=" - " />
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I bet nobody hates those ribbons more than HoyaSaxa03.
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<img src="http://www.ribbonomatic.com/matic/makegraphic.cgi?message=My%20Other%20Car%20is%20a%20Yukon;hexcolor=Red;fontcolor=white;bgcolor=blue;source_id=1;font_id=5" alt=" - " />
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And I'm sick of all the fucking Kerry/Edwards and Bush/Cheney stickers on cars. Enough of that shit already.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
And I'm sick of all the fucking Kerry/Edwards and Bush/Cheney stickers on cars. Enough of that shit already.
Yeah and when will the cardboard re-election signs be taken off all the street lamps in DC?
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Originally posted by tbmtt:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
And I'm sick of all the fucking Kerry/Edwards and Bush/Cheney stickers on cars. Enough of that shit already.
Yeah and when will the cardboard re-election signs be taken off all the street lamps in DC? [/b]
My favorite is "Move Ahead with Movaheadi!"
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For a slightly serious slant on all of this, there was an excellent editorial in the Washington Post on Sunday by frank Schaeffer.
Caring For Those Left Behind
Soldiers' Survivors Need Real Benefits More Than Yellow Ribbons
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61375-2004Nov18.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61375-2004Nov18.html)
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no ribbons for lung cancer? I guess they haven't thought of EVERYTHING
you know, it's good to raise awareness, but most people don't know what the ribbons stand for, so the ribbons don't work...
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more than 90% of lung cancers ares self inflicted......
I know Dupek wears this to show he supports all the different charities: <img src="http://www.prideglv.org/assets/images/rainbowribbon/ribbonlogo.jpg" alt=" - " />
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More than 50% of newly diagnosed patients with lung cancer each year are former or non-smokers. (note: the other half never smoked)
Despite claiming more lives than any other cancer, lung cancer receives comparatively little research funding
More Americans die each year from lung cancer than from breast, prostate, and colorectal cancers combined.
Similar to AIDS in the early 1980s, lung cancer patients report feeling ashamed to tell their family, friends, and others that they have been diagnosed with lung cancer because they feel that they will be blamed.
www.lungcancer.org (http://www.lungcancer.org)
So what about the children who grow up with smoking parents and develop lung cancer later in life? Is that self-inflicted, and do they not deserve people to stand behind them and further the research to cure them? Oh I guess not...since most people who get it are smokers, then we should just let them die because they did it to themselves. How about people who smoked before and realized how stupid it was and quit? But I guess we should expect everyone not to make mistakes, right? How about those who go to concert venues regularly and breathe in tons of second hand smoke? But I guess they deserve to get lung cancer, if they risked it to go to the show.
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Originally posted by chaz:
My favorite is "Move Ahead with Movaheadi!"
Bahaha! I work in Dupont Circle, so I see those signs a lot.
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Originally posted by Samantha:
More than 50% of newly diagnosed patients with lung cancer each year are former or non-smokers. (note: the other half never smoked)
Where do you get that from?
As I understand it at least 90% of lung cancer deaths are smoking related.
But I am happy to be proved wrong.
Also as I uderstood it, if you dont smoke for five years, your chances of getting smoking related cancer are the same as a non-smoker, making the child parent second hand smoke thing moot.
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Originally posted by marquee smith:
What color ribbon is prostate cancer? Is there a ribbon for herpes, as well?
i think the brown one is for colon cancer.
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This fits how I feel about all of these dumbass ribbons.
<img src="http://www.ribbonomatic.com/matic/graphics/90823.gif" alt=" - " />
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I posted the link I referenced from, www.lungcancer.org (http://www.lungcancer.org)
second hand smoke is supposedly worse than first hand, and if a child grows up 18 years in a house with second hand smoke...that ain't good. For my best friend as an example: he's never had a cigarrette in his life, but both parents smoked, and so did a live-in girlfriend for years. He was diagnosed with lung cancer last winter, and he is only 31 years old.
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Originally posted by Samantha:
he is only 31 years old.
That really sucks. I am sorry.
I still couldnt find your stats though, all I find is stuff like this:
http://www.lungcancer.org/health_care/fs_hcp_flc.htm (http://www.lungcancer.org/health_care/fs_hcp_flc.htm)
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
This fits how I feel about all of these dumbass ribbons.
<img src="http://www.ribbonomatic.com/matic/graphics/90823.gif" alt=" - " />
ditto!
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this to shall pass like all those xxx on board signs, americans are such sheep
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http://www.lungcancer.org/patients/fs_pc_lc_101.htm (http://www.lungcancer.org/patients/fs_pc_lc_101.htm)
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Originally posted by Samantha:
http://www.lungcancer.org/patients/fs_pc_lc_101.htm (http://www.lungcancer.org/patients/fs_pc_lc_101.htm)
Ok, sorry about this, but from your link:
"More than 87% of lung cancers are smoking related"
This does not fit well with your earlier statistics..... Whether you like it or not most lung cancer is self-inflicted and as such I guess it is pretty hard to raise sympathy/charitable money for it.
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
Originally posted by Samantha:
http://www.lungcancer.org/patients/fs_pc_lc_101.htm (http://www.lungcancer.org/patients/fs_pc_lc_101.htm)
Ok, sorry about this, but from your link:
"More than 87% of lung cancers are smoking related"
This does not fit well with your earlier statistics..... Whether you like it or not most lung cancer is self-inflicted and as such I guess it is pretty hard to raise sympathy/charitable money for it. [/b]
HELLO...SMOKING RELATED...second hand smoke is smoking related. doesn't mean the person smoked.
how come you're so quick to blame? and why should others suffer for it? that's a bit fucked up.but still, do you see where I'm going with?
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Smoking related cases makes up 90% of lung cancer victims. All of these cancers were preventable. What is the point spending millions on a cure when prevention would be 90% effective and cost free?
Try and distance yourself from your own personal situation.
I never smoked, I always hated smoking. If I get lung cancer I am going to be suing the blackcat.
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you can't make other people stop smoking. suing isn't going to do anything to save your life. and I don't see why, just because it's "self-inflicted" those people don't deserve a cure as well. that's a very harsh, unforgiving, republican way of looking at things.
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Originally posted by Samantha:
you can't make other people stop smoking.
That is true.
But you can ban cigarette smoking in public spaces and tax the shit out of cigarettes. More lung cancers will be prevented that way than by spending $100 millions on a cure.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
And I'm sick of all the fucking Kerry/Edwards and Bush/Cheney stickers on cars. Enough of that shit already.
<img src="http://prodtn.cafepress.com/8/14357038_F_tn.jpg" alt=" - " />
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again, you can't stop people around you from smoking. your parents, your loved ones...and what about OTHER nasty shit in the air? like car pollution and smog. cancer happens...saying people deserve agonizing death is just inhumane.
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I don't mind the ribbons at all. But I do still laugh at the losers who still have this sticker on their cars. "Like father, like son, no second term"....Frickin' morons.
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on the topic of research-vs-prevention: for fuck's sake! It reminds me of how right-wingers used to say (and probably still do) that AIDS was God's way of punishing gays. Even if most lung cancer comes from smoking, there will always be a certain percentage that is caused by other things, including simply having to live in a nasty smog-infested environment. Prevention is important but cancer research is necessary too. And in some ways the argument is moot: it's not like lung cancer research is a completely separate endeavor from, say, breast cancer research. All cancer is related, and efforts towards eradicating and treating cancer benefit everyone.
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
All cancer is related.
Cancers are often not particularly closely related at all and treatments for cancers are often not at all related.
Comparing cancer and aids is interesting..... But we must procreate to satiate our selfish genes. There is no reason for anyone to smoke.
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Originally posted by hitman:
Originally posted by Jaguär:
This fits how I feel about all of these dumbass ribbons.
<img src="http://www.ribbonomatic.com/matic/graphics/90823.gif" alt=" - " />
ditto! [/b]
<img src="http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=kramer+on+seinfeld/v=2/SID=w/TID=I012_78/l=IVI/SIG=12hlu8jl4/*-http%3A//www1.chapman.edu/~hoshi103/image/seinfeld/045_kramer_hair_on_fire.png" alt=" - " />
But I am wearing the ribbon. He is wearing the ribbon. We are all wearing the ribbon! So why aren't you going to wear the ribbon?!
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
All cancer is related.
Cancers are often not particularly closely related at all and treatments for cancers are often not at all related.
Comparing cancer and aids is interesting..... But we must procreate to satiate our selfish genes. There is no reason for anyone to smoke. [/b]
there's a need for people to smoke like there's a need for people to drink coffee or alcohol. people smoke to satiate our addict genes.
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Smoking is a social skill, just like sex is a social skill. It's all about socialization.
Are YOU a social animal too?
Not me! I'm a social insect.
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i've been in the midwest since Wed and almost every car has one of those stoopid things. i want to steal them all.
funnyest one:
God will bless America when America comes back to God.
cute.
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
i want to steal them all.
Swipe 'em and sell 'em bulk on eBAY. It's how I make my living, "Lot of 100 assorted magnetic/patriotic ribbons..."
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Originally posted by Samantha:
Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
But we must procreate to satiate our selfish genes. There is no reason for anyone to smoke.
people smoke to satiate our addict genes. [/b]
hmm, how many people actually have sex to procreate? Sex, drinking, and smoking, are all to some extent driven by inner compulsions that are a part of being human. You can control unsafe behavior but there will always be a certain percentage of the population who will be at risk. So it still comes down to either "it's their fault, they deserve to die," or an approach that's a little more compassionate. In either the case of lung cancer or HIV, we're talking about millions of people. I don't really think it comes down to prevention vs. treatment. We need to have both.
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Buy the Anti-Magnet (http://www.antimagnet.com/)?