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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: mrpee on July 23, 2007, 10:03:00 am
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Haven't seen discussion of this one, kinda surprising given all the Frames talk a while back. Anyone interested? Glen and Marketa did this show at Iota last year and it quickly evolved into a Hansard solo show â?? an hour's worth of Frames material after 40 minutes of the Swell Season songs. Which aren't bad. Aren't bad at all.
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You've been looking in the wrong threads, I think. There's already a mini-roll-call in the movies thread where it was brought up repeatedly.
Anyway, I'll be there!
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I'll be there
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and myself and 10 other folks that i'm meeting up with there.
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Spiacente, amici. Non ha potuto trovare il filetto. Abbiamo bisogno di una caratteristica di ricerca.
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I saw them perform at the sneak preview of "Once" and the Frames show is my fav of the year so far. I didn't see Glen and Marketa at IOTA, so I'm psyched for this one.
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Originally posted by mrpee:
Spiacente, amici. Non ha potuto trovare il filetto. Abbiamo bisogno di una caratteristica di ricerca.
Non penso che chiedendo le possibilità di ricerca in italiano aiuti
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I somehow managed to like the movie, but hate the music. I guess I'm a sucker for scruffy underdog love stories, but the music was way too Coldplay-esque for my palate. So I won't be there!
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Originally posted by mrpee:
Spiacente, amici. Non ha potuto trovare il filetto. Abbiamo bisogno di una caratteristica di ricerca.
does this have something to do with quiche-eating?
my girlfriend loved this movie and we'll be there
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I'll be there. The IOTA show in October was amazing, I'm hoping this one will be similar. Meaning that I wouldn't mind some solo Frames material in the mix. :)
I still haven't seen Once, mainly because I'd have to travel a bit, but I'm hoping to catch it soon. I really would have liked to have made that special screening with Glen and Marketa, but alas, I had a commitment that evening.
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Is there any truth to the rumor that Glen and Marketa are romantically linked? A friend told me this and there was a Page Six article about that, but I know that is all rumor.
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Isn't she still a teenager and he's and old guy?
What I find the most hysterical was that he was a member of the Commitments.
Originally posted by dcwizard:
Is there any truth to the rumor that Glen and Marketa are romantically linked? A friend told me this and there was a Page Six article about that, but I know that is all rumor.
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It absolutely is true, and it grosses me out to the point where I can't even listen to the music anymore. They met when she was 13 and he was 31. She's now 19, and he's 37, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that they would wait until she was of age to get um...romantic :/ I used to love the Swell Season music, and I was so psyched to see Once and see them at the screening, but I can't even listen to them anymore.
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Originally posted by MyraEllen:
I used to love the Swell Season music, and I was so psyched to see Once and see them at the screening, but I can't even listen to them anymore.
Why not?
Also, when was this screening and where?
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I think the screening was in May at the movie theatre in Georgetown. After the movie screening, there was Q&A with Glen, Marketa, and the director. Then they performed a couple of songs.
Whether or not they have a thing going, I love the Swell Season album and Once, so I'm psyched for the show.
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Irglova has known her co-star since she was 13. Every year a music festival has been held in June in her hometown. Six years ago, her parents threw a garden party for the visiting musicians, an Irish rock outfit called The Frames, headed by vocalist and guitarist Glen Hansard. "And that is when we met," recalls Irglova. "They had a gig and Glenn got me up for a song. I was terrified. I really, really didn't enjoy it, but, had I known that it was the beginning of something so amazing, I would have been a little more grateful."
Soon, with Hansard's encouragement and support, Irglova began writing and composing her own music. He was invited back to the Moravian countryside on a regular basis to relax and compose music. Irglova, a multi-instrumentalist, would accompany him on the piano. An ever-increasing number of gigs followed over the next several years. "Making an album as a document of that time was kind of natural."
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Well, it violates my half my age plus even rule, but that's self imposed, so I can't haggle the guy over it. Whenever I see a female on stage with a bunch of guys in the band I assume she's slepping with one of the guys in the band anyway, so why should this be different?
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**yawwwwwwwn**
i think i actually fell asleep at some point during this show ... the cover of the pixies's "cactus" was the only thing that woke me up
it was like a big time Schlock Parade mash-up of Five for Fighting and Damien Rice
the crowd was bizarre in its plainness ... i love stereotyping audiences (the morrissey wolf trap show was too easy with its reality-bites gen-x fighting-to-be-young-just-one-more-time set), but this one was notable in its unremarkableness ... a lot of homely-looking late-20-something women and guys with short well-maintained haircuts, normal frame specs and well-worn polo shirts ... definitely the slowest bar i've ever seen at a sold-out 930 club
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i really liked the show. and i thought the crowd was varied age wise. probably half were in their 20's, but a good amount in 30's, 40's, 50's. older folks were probably folks who are indie film fans and bought the soundtrack.
but my lord, that drunk bitch who eventually got publicly shamed by glen. our area kept getting inundated with folks trying to escape her and her dipshit friends before she pushed her way to the front. i did like how people were trying to self police the talkers though and most folks actually obliged.
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Simply perfect. I loved every minute of it. One of my favorite shows of the year. I'm really pleased NPR broadcast it, so I can presumably, hopefully download it later. I particularly enjoyed the Van Morrison cover ("Into the Mystic") and the aforementioned Pixies cover.
P.S. I couldn't care less about the audience or what they were wearing or how many drinks were being sold at the bar.
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
I particularly enjoyed the Van Morrison cover ("Into the Mystic")
dammit! i would've loved to hear/see that!!
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
P.S. I couldn't care less about the audience or what they were wearing or how many drinks were being sold at the bar.
fair enough ... these are the things that catch my eye when i'm struggling to stay awake
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I fell asleep, too, when they opened for Damien Rice at Lincoln. They just need some seriously good hooks, and I'm not talking about "star star teach me how to shine shine".
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
**yawwwwwwwn**
i think i actually fell asleep at some point during this show ...
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
I'm really pleased NPR broadcast it, so I can presumably, hopefully download it later.
Fook. I always hear of this the day after. Lemme know if it's available. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Greer Zoller:
Originally posted by Darth Ed:
I'm really pleased NPR broadcast it, so I can presumably, hopefully download it later.
Fook. I always hear of this the day after. Lemme know if it's available. Thanks. [/b]
Click the "listen" link beneath the bands name here:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12100950 (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12100950)
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Thanks, fellas. I can get my fix at work now.
(I have "The Cooler" imprinted on my forehead this week & thus, had to miss the show.)
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Thanks for the link. I had a ticket, but I was so pooped from work and life I just couldn't make it. I think if it had been a more energetic show I might have forced myself out, but I had a feeling I'd have low patience or appreciation for this show in my state of mind at the time.
Glad some of y'all enjoyed it!
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Originally posted by lily1:
but my lord, that drunk bitch who eventually got publicly shamed by glen. our area kept getting inundated with folks trying to escape her and her dipshit friends before she pushed her way to the front.
I just heard that part of the stream. He handled it excellently.
"That wasn't exactly an act of encouragement towards you....'I have an idea, lets get completely fucking drunk, get right up front and wreck the gig for him. He'd love that!'"
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
**yawwwwwwwn**
i think i actually fell asleep at some point during this show ... the cover of the pixies's "cactus" was the only thing that woke me up
it was like a big time Schlock Parade mash-up of Five for Fighting and Damien Rice
the crowd was bizarre in its plainness ... i love stereotyping audiences (the morrissey wolf trap show was too easy with its reality-bites gen-x fighting-to-be-young-just-one-more-time set), but this one was notable in its unremarkableness ... a lot of homely-looking late-20-something women and guys with short well-maintained haircuts, normal frame specs and well-worn polo shirts ... definitely the slowest bar i've ever seen at a sold-out 930 club
I'm curious. You must have been at least somewhat familiar with their music, or you wouldn't have gone. So what, exactly, were you expecting from this show?
To be honest, the IOTA show was much better, but this one was pretty good. The Van Morrison cover was amazing, I hadn't heard that song in years. Every time I see Glen, I'm just amazed at what a great artist and performer he is. I could seriously just listen to him talk. He should do a special tour where he just sits there and tells stories, preferably outdoors around a huge campfire. :)
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Originally posted by Reod Dai:
I'm curious. You must have been at least somewhat familiar with their music, or you wouldn't have gone. So what, exactly, were you expecting from this show?
i was familiar with their music: i've seen the movie and i really like the frames ... i went to the show mainly because my girlfriend loved the movie and the music from the movie, i was probably more in rhett's camp
i was hoping (expecting is a little strong) that they'd find some way to transcend the schlocky tunes from the film and put on a compelling show ... just didn't happen IMHO, but i can totally understand how someone who likes that five for fighting vibe would have really enjoyed this show
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Originally posted by Reod Dai:
I'm curious. You must have been at least somewhat familiar with their music, or you wouldn't have gone. So what, exactly, were you expecting from this show?
i was familiar with their music: i've seen the movie and i really like the frames ... i went to the show mainly because my girlfriend loved the movie and the music from the movie, i was probably more in rhett's camp
i was hoping (expecting is a little strong) that they'd find some way to transcend the schlocky tunes from the film and put on a compelling show ... just didn't happen IMHO, but i can totally understand how someone who likes that five for fighting vibe would have really enjoyed this show [/b]
Fair enough. I must say that I find it odd for someone who likes The Frames to not like The Swell Season, though. And I can't say that I care much for Five for Fighting, either. Better than comparing them to Coldplay, though (and I actually like Coldplay). :)
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Originally posted by Reod Dai:
I must say that I find it odd for someone who likes The Frames to not like The Swell Season, though.
it's amazing what a rhythm section can do
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From the LA Times yesterday. (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/movies/la-ca-once29jul29,0,1102977.story?coll=la-home-middleright) More about film than the music, but interesting read nonetheless.
From the Los Angeles Times
ON FILM / KENNETH TURAN
Thinking twice about 'Once'
Despite being a Sundance hit, it was still a rocky road for the small film and the U.S. market.
By Kenneth Turan
July 29, 2007
"Once," the little picture that could, has been one of this summer's great art house successes, and no one is happier about that than I am. And no one is sadder about it either.
On the one hand, that success, both critically and financially, has been as gratifying as it's been widespread for this hard-to-resist Irish musical romance, written and directed by John Carney and starring the Frames' Glen Hansard and Markéta Irglová as Dublin street musicians who make emotional music together.
"Once" was recently ranked No. 3 (after "Ratatouille" and "Away From Her") on Rotten Tomatoes' list of the best-reviewed films of 2007, and its total box-office receipts have just passed the $5-million mark. That's roughly 15 times what it cost to produce, with millions of revenue-generating DVDs to come. There's even talk of an Oscar nomination for the film in the best original song category.
While those figures might not impress Jerry Bruckheimer, they are striking in their own way. "Once" has not only consistently been in the weekly box office top 20, it's also played on fewer screens than most others in that group: In areas where it's liked, it's well liked.
In fact, on the film's opening weekend, an Irish Independent headline screamed " 'Once' Beats 'Shrek' in North America." No, that wasn't a typo; "Once " did win the battle of per-screen averages, but it was on only two screens compared with more than 4,000 for "Shrek the Third."
I am delighted by all of this but also continue to be troubled by what a near thing that success was, by how tricky and problematic it was for "Once" to get into American theaters in the first place. What should have been a smooth path, with every distributor in the country fighting over this completely charming film, was just the opposite.
The reasons for this lack of distributor passion are troubling not just in relation to "Once" but for what they portend for the American independent world.
I feel strongly about "Once" because I was an early booster of the picture, which had its American debut at Sundance in January. Frankly, the film wasn't on my "must see" list, but I made it my business to catch up to it after everyone I spoke to said the same two things: "It's a small film," followed by a pause, a smile, and the phrase "but I really liked it." With that high degree of likability, I confidently waited for "Once" to be one of the first festival films to be acquired.
This was not the slow-paced "Old Joy" or some other Sundance critical darling whose acceptance by ordinary paying audiences was problematic at best. This was a film that real people, like the down-to-earth audience that went wild for it at an early festival screening in Salt Lake City, undeniably liked, so much so that "Once" eventually won the festival's world cinema audience award against stiff competition.
AS it happened, I almost waited in vain. Picture after picture got acquired out of Sundance, but not "Once." Finally, after the festival was over, Fox Searchlight, which had already snapped up three other films whose commercial prospects it thought more highly of, shrewdly took it on. How, I wondered, could all this be? How could the fact that "Once" was perhaps the best-liked film in the entire festival count for so little?
What I learned from talking to acquisition executives was that "Once" had a problem not visible to the nonprofessional eye. It came down to an inside-baseball conflict between two concepts â?? playability and marketability â?? not usually discussed outside distribution circles, a battle, as it turns out, that can be fiercer than the "Transformers" tussle between the Autobots and the Decepticons.
No one doubted, coming off the Sundance experience, that "Once" had exceptional playability; in other words, that people who came to see it were entranced. But everyone had questions about its marketability: The film had no stars, no big names behind the camera, no dazzling visual splendors or CGI toys. Worse than that, "Once" was not reducible to a glib high concept. On the contrary, the more you tried to describe it with words, the more it fell apart in your hands. How on Earth, distributors wondered, were people going to be induced to go in the first place?
I was no stranger to hearing worries such as these, but I associated them with the concerns accompanying major studio releases. When you are spending in the neighborhood of $100 million or more to make a film, you can't trust the audience to find your project, you have to have good, solid commercial elements that can be beaten to death in search of paying customers.
Independent film companies, and independent film audiences, were supposed to be different, supposed to be to a certain extent immune from, not contaminated by, these concerns. It isn't hard to find other examples of good, unusual smaller films â?? recent examples include "Away From Her" and "Sweet Land" â?? that haven't attracted the audiences they deserve.
The "Once" experience worried me because it underlined how much the risk-averse studio mind-set of being indifferent to quality, of caring more about what can be sold than what will be cherished, is infecting an arena that has always prided itself on being impervious to those ways of thinking.
Yet to be fair, it would be wrong to completely blame the specialty distributors for their lack of brio where acquiring "Once" was concerned. If they are timid, if they lack trust in the willingness of an audience to find and support something that lacks marketable elements, it's because experience has shown them that they have reason to be afraid.
Even now, in the face of the success and visibility of "Once," I am constantly running into supporters of independent cinema who have not gone to see the film partly because, despite a terrific Fox Searchlight campaign, it lacks the kind of easy-to-remember hook having Keri Russell in a cute uniform has given "Waitress."
If you want distributors to acquire films as sophisticated and unusual as "Once," you must make the extra effort to seek them out and patronize them. If you don't, don't count on them to be around when you need them the most.
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
i can totally understand how someone who likes that five for fighting vibe would have really enjoyed this show
I think I need to wash out my eyes.
They are nothing like Five For Fighting.
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Originally posted by dcwizard:
Is there any truth to the rumor that Glen and Marketa are romantically linked? A friend told me this and there was a Page Six article about that, but I know that is all rumor.
According to BrightestYoungThings (http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/index.php?cat=33), they are.