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Title: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 24, 2007, 11:53:00 am
:)   Just wondering!
 
 bonus question: How often do you get a raise, without asking?
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: manimtired on July 24, 2007, 11:55:00 am
10 vacation
 around 8-9 sick
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: xneverwherex on July 24, 2007, 11:55:00 am
not enough - 2 weeks
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Post by: Samantha on July 24, 2007, 11:57:00 am
however much I ask my dad/boss for.   :D  (hell yes I'm spoiled!)
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on July 24, 2007, 11:59:00 am
Average Number of Vacation Days Around the World Per Year
 Italy 42 days
 France 37 days
 Germany 35 days
 Brazil 34 days
 United Kingdom 28 days
 Canada 26 days
 Korea 25 days
 Japan 25 days
 U.S. 13 days
 
 Source: World Tourism Organization (WTO).
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 24, 2007, 12:00:00 pm
I guess I didn't have to ask. 2 weeks is pretty much average (I think).
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: ggw on July 24, 2007, 12:01:00 pm
22 vacation days
 3 personal days
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 24, 2007, 12:02:00 pm
:eek:   Is that after a year employment, or after 3 years?
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  22 vacation days
 3 personal days
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: ggw on July 24, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
That's after 10 years.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
   :eek:    Is that after a year employment, or after 3 years?
 
   
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  22 vacation days
 3 personal days
[/b]
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: lagas on July 24, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
In Chile I had a month...here two weeks....
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Samantha on July 24, 2007, 12:07:00 pm
fuck.  we've got someone here JUST NOW bitching about not getting paid  on vacation and sick days...she works here 1 day and a half a week!!  tell me that's not normal.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: eros on July 24, 2007, 12:07:00 pm
I've got a pretty sweet deal:
 
 20 base days (leave or sick)
 10 days rolled over from last year
 10 bonus days (one for each year at the company)
 10 holidays
 
 Plus, we get paid out for every day in excess of the 10 we can't roll over to the next year.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: beetsnotbeats on July 24, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
10 vacation (can carry over up to 50 per year)
 15 sick (not sure of carry over)
 3 personal (annual use or lose)
 however many paid Maryland state holidays there are
 
 Raises depend on state and university budgets. For the new fiscal year (7/1) I got a COLA and blanket merit (to those with good marks). In addition, my job grade's salary level was adjusted (based on a bi-annual market study) resulting in the bulk of this year's raise. I've been at my job for less than a year and started at the minimum salary for my grade. Salaries below the new minimums for their grades had to be raised to at least those minimums.
 
 On some holidays the university is open so I have to work. However, those days off are deferred to winter and spring breaks. We get the whole last week of the year off and part of spring break.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: paul3mac on July 24, 2007, 12:30:00 pm
11 Paid Holidays
 10 Annual Leave Days
 6 Personal Days
 Sick days roll over... I'm currently at 45
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
You guys don't even want to know...
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: nkotb on July 24, 2007, 12:43:00 pm
6 Personal Days
 10 Vacation Days
 12 Sick Days
 
 Of course, the fucking kicker about this place is that the "sick days" are in place of any short term disability...so I can't use them unless I'm sick 3 or more days.  And I dont' get sick...so I can't use them.  Oh, and they don't get paid out.  Ever.  Lame.
 
 Which is why I'm submitting resumes as we speak.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: edbert on July 24, 2007, 12:54:00 pm
Something like 32 days PTO plus holidays.. that's from being at the same company for 17 years! And I have 500 hours untaken PTO that they have to pay me for if I leave.
 When I started in the 80's, 3 weeks was typical but now most places it's 2 weeks PTO for new employees.
 If you're comparing "salaried exempt" jobs, also try to get a sense of whether they're gonna screw you on working extra unpaid hours ... there's usally a clue in the interview because places like that just want sheep to take advantage of.  They'll ask if you mind working late.. ask them how often that happens, and if it's often, do you get comp time. Ask if raises and bonuses there are based on how much extra time people work
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: miss pretentious on July 24, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
i hate a lot of you.
 
 i get 10 days vacation.
 and 7 sick days.
 no personal time. and nothing rolls over.
 and although there are like 5 paid holidays, there is no such thing as an actual holiday where everyone gets the day off in my biz.
 
 last year i worked every single 'holiday' except christmas day.... which means new years day, easter, thanksgiving, july 4, etc etc. luckily, this year has been a bit better to me.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Sir HC on July 24, 2007, 01:05:00 pm
I am not totally sure as I am in transistion, but I think about 4 weeks vacation/sick, 10 holidays, and then some other stuff.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: brennser on July 24, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
20 vacation, soon to be 25
 all fed holidays
 at last count I had accumulated something like 40 sick days
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
30 vacation days a year.
 15 paid holidays.
 1 personal day.
 24 sick days per year.
 
 
 When I started, I accumulated 2 vacation days every month, or 24 working days a year (just short of 5 weeks).  That has since gone up to about 2.5 days a month based on my length of service.  I can carry up to 384 vacation hours to the next year (I currently have 280 hours accumulated, or 35 working days, which is about 2 months).  When I leave, I am paid out for vacation.  
 
 I also accumulate 2 sick days per month, which I never use and have reached the max that I can carry over (270 hours).  I am not paid out when I leave my job for sick time accrued, but I can donate them to a staff pool for folk who have critical illness and not enough sick time.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: ratioci nation on July 24, 2007, 01:37:00 pm
Wow, I thought I would have the most, but I think Vansmack has me beat, I just quit my job but after 6 years I had the following
 
 6 weeks vacation
 5 sick days
 5 personal leave days
 the whole week after xmas off
 
 and I worked from home
 
 why did I quit again? oh yeah, I was miserable doing the work
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: tigersscareme on July 24, 2007, 01:45:00 pm
after 9 years, i get about 4 weeks vacation.
 there's a raise every year. now we're doing quartiles and crap i don't understand.
 
 this is turning into a big corporation which is hinkey and weird.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 02:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by pdx pollard:
  Wow, I thought I would have the most, but I think Vansmack has me beat
 
 the whole week after xmas off
 
 
Yes, I have a great situation here.  I won't even go into my benefits or retirement package...
 
 We also have the whole week between Xmas and New Years (I counted that as part of my 15 paid holidays) and things really slow down when the students aren't here (January and the summer).
 
 I have never asked for a raise but have gotten one every year (exceeding COLA) and have been given a few bonuses for good work.
 
 And the worst part is - I love nearly every minute of my job.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 24, 2007, 02:10:00 pm
5 days a year vacation
 2 days sick
 
 both are accrued, so i dont have a full week until december 31  :(
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: sonickteam2 on July 24, 2007, 02:16:00 pm
i get 22 days a year, sick/personal whatever.
 
 and the regular holidays.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: miss pretentious on July 24, 2007, 02:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  5 days a year vacation
 2 days sick
 
 both are accrued, so i dont have a full week until december 31   :(  
thanks for making me feel better about my job!
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: alex on July 24, 2007, 02:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Average Number of Vacation Days Around the World Per Year
 Italy 42 days
 France 37 days
 Germany 35 days
 Brazil 34 days
 United Kingdom 28 days
 Canada 26 days
 Korea 25 days
 Japan 25 days
 U.S. 13 days
 
 Source: World Tourism Organization (WTO).
Of course, this must be pointed out as well to put things in perspective.  GDP per capita rankings (in USD, source IMF):
 
 United States 43,574 (4th)
 Canada 35,494 (9th)
 UK 35,051 (11th)
 Japan 32,647 (18th)
 Germany 31,095 (19th)
 Italy 30,732 (20th)
 France 30,693 (21st)
 South Korea 23,926 (30th)
 Brazil 9,108 (68th)
 
 And I get 10 days vacation, with a liberal sick leave policy that I think is crap because too many people abuse it.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: dfmcpete on July 24, 2007, 02:19:00 pm
20 days/year, no differentiation among sick/vacation/personal. Plus federal holidays.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Dr. Anton Phibes on July 24, 2007, 02:22:00 pm
Our software company has this lineup for employees:
 
 3 weeks vacation
 2 weeks sick
 2 floaters
 3 personals
 8 company holidays
 You can "roll over" up to 2 weeks vacation into the following year.
 
 The end.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 24, 2007, 02:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  5 days a year vacation
 2 days sick
 
 both are accrued, so i dont have a full week until december 31    :(  
thanks for making me feel better about my job! [/b]
to be fair, i got the week between christmas and new years off
 
 of course i was sick the whole time anyway, but at least i got paid. might be time to start looking
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: miss pretentious on July 24, 2007, 02:24:00 pm
*sigh* and this is why i was warned time and time again about my career path in college.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: tigersscareme on July 24, 2007, 02:29:00 pm
oh, plus 4 personal/year and i think  7 or 8 sick/year. the sick roll over.
 
 today is one of the days i love my job because i got to go here:
 http://secondchanceinc.org/default.aspx?kw=WarehouseDirectory (http://secondchanceinc.org/default.aspx?kw=WarehouseDirectory)
 and here
 http://www.housewerksalvage.com/ (http://www.housewerksalvage.com/)
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: xneverwherex on July 24, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 And the worst part is - I love nearly every minute of my job.
ive been thinking about moving back to the bay (well not for a little while, but soon). so you guys hiring?   :D
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  *sigh* and this is why i was warned time and time again about my career path in college.
Are you happy with what you're doing? If so, then none of the rest matters at your age.  If not, then it's not too late for a change.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: miss pretentious on July 24, 2007, 02:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  *sigh* and this is why i was warned time and time again about my career path in college.
Are you happy with what you're doing? If so, then none of the rest matters at your age.  If not, then it's not too late for a change. [/b]
that's the thing. it's soooo spotty. some days i love it. some i hate it. it's really a mixed bag.
 
 but at the same time, i dunno if this is just a quarter-life crisis...
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on July 24, 2007, 02:34:00 pm
I'm sure that helps the good ole USA come in a respectable fifth in overall quality of life index:
 
 http://www.il-ireland.com/il/qofl07/ (http://www.il-ireland.com/il/qofl07/)
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Average Number of Vacation Days Around the World Per Year
 Italy 42 days
 France 37 days
 Germany 35 days
 Brazil 34 days
 United Kingdom 28 days
 Canada 26 days
 Korea 25 days
 Japan 25 days
 U.S. 13 days
 
 Source: World Tourism Organization (WTO).
Of course, this must be pointed out as well to put things in perspective.  GDP per capita rankings (in USD, source IMF):
 
 United States 43,574 (4th)
 Canada 35,494 (9th)
 UK 35,051 (11th)
 Japan 32,647 (18th)
 Germany 31,095 (19th)
 Italy 30,732 (20th)
 France 30,693 (21st)
 South Korea 23,926 (30th)
 Brazil 9,108 (68th)
 
 And I get 10 days vacation, with a liberal sick leave policy that I think is crap because too many people abuse it. [/b]
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
 ive been thinking about moving back to the bay (well not for a little while, but soon). so you guys hiring?    :D  
We are always hiring.  We have 20 openings this week, about a third of which are in my classification, the rest are union jobs, but they have pretty good bennies as well.
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Post by: Bombay Chutney on July 24, 2007, 02:38:00 pm
25 days PTO (vacation/sick)
 10 holidays
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 02:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I'm sure that helps the good ole USA come in a respectable fifth in overall quality of life index:
 
   http://www.il-ireland.com/il/qofl07/ (http://www.il-ireland.com/il/qofl07/)  
 
   
Australia, Holland, New Zealand I could agree with, but any chart that has France at the top that isn't titled "Biggiest Pussies in the World" or "Least Thankful Bastards post WWII" I have a problem with.
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Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 02:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  that's the thing. it's soooo spotty. some days i love it. some i hate it. it's really a mixed bag.
 
Welcome to your twenties....
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Venerable Bede on July 24, 2007, 02:43:00 pm
i get 16 1/2 days per year for whatever i want, plus an additional personal day. . .and i get all state and federal holidays (there are two extra state holidays, not including day after thanksgiving).
 
 with an automatic yearly pay increase (5% or something like that), unless the state imposes a salary freeze.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: walkonby on July 24, 2007, 03:03:00 pm
i make my own schedule, my pay is what i sell, my vacations are when i feel like it, and unless there is an appointment, my wake up call is a nice ten am.  i don't have benefits or insurance, but gladly do without for the business profile of freedom that i fell feet first into.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 03:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by walkonby:
  i make my own schedule, my pay is what i sell, my vacations are when i feel like it, and unless there is an appointment, my wake up call is a nice ten am.  i don't have benefits or insurance, but gladly do without for the business profile of freedom that i fell feet first into.
So it's you!
 
 Stop calling during dinner.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 24, 2007, 03:12:00 pm
as much time as you want, as long as you make your billables (i.e., zero)
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: ggw on July 24, 2007, 03:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by walkonby:
  i make my own schedule, my pay is what i sell, my vacations are when i feel like it, and unless there is an appointment, my wake up call is a nice ten am.  i don't have benefits or insurance, but gladly do without for the business profile of freedom that i fell feet first into.
How much for a 'z of the purple haze?
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: chaz on July 24, 2007, 03:36:00 pm
I get 15 days a year to be used for whatever...sick or vacation.  In a year or so it goes up to 20.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: edbert on July 24, 2007, 03:49:00 pm
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any chart that has France at the top that isn't titled "Biggiest Pussies in the World" or "Least Thankful Bastards post WWII" I have a problem with.
The French are very thankful for what we did in WW II. It's WW III that they're not down with.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Venerable Bede on July 24, 2007, 03:56:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Stairmaster E:
   
Quote
any chart that has France at the top that isn't titled "Biggiest Pussies in the World" or "Least Thankful Bastards post WWII" I have a problem with.
The French are very thankful for what we did in WW II. It's WW III that they're not down with. [/b]
i think they not down with anything put forward by the u.s. and england. . at least that's what mitterand (and gaullism for that matter) based his foreign policy on- we'll see how sarkozy does.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: TheDirector217 on July 24, 2007, 03:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
Quote
Originally posted by walkonby:
  i make my own schedule, my pay is what i sell, my vacations are when i feel like it, and unless there is an appointment, my wake up call is a nice ten am.  i don't have benefits or insurance, but gladly do without for the business profile of freedom that i fell feet first into.
How much for a 'z of the purple haze? [/b]
Our first contender for post of the week.  On fire, lately ain't ya?
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 04:07:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  i think they not down with anything put forward by the u.s. and england. . at least that's what mitterand (and gaullism for that matter) based his foreign policy on- we'll see how sarkozy does.
On the rare occassion that Venerable and I agree outside of music, it's on French Foreign Policy post WWII.
 
 Sure, they may not be down with this Bush administration, but they really weren't down with much of anything since they fucked up Vietnam and got us heavily involved in that debacle.  Now they're looking to us to fix their colonies in Africa because they bauched that too - condoning genocide?
 
 Somehow it's always forgotten that we backed their ridiculous Vietnamese government at their request and were asked by them to come in and train the Army because they weren't capable.
 
 That's us, always picking up after their messes, and what gratitude do we get - looks of disdain upon visiting their country.  Fuck 'em.  Speak German next time.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: walkonby on July 24, 2007, 04:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
Quote
Originally posted by walkonby:
  i make my own schedule, my pay is what i sell, my vacations are when i feel like it, and unless there is an appointment, my wake up call is a nice ten am.  i don't have benefits or insurance, but gladly do without for the business profile of freedom that i fell feet first into.
How much for a 'z of the purple haze? [/b]
i plead the half on that question, but i can sell you a nice, river front lot for under $200k.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: thegazelle on July 24, 2007, 05:42:00 pm
My old job started everybody at 3 weeks CTO (combined time off) and by the time I left after close to 6 years I had full 6 weeks off. People maxed out at 8 weeks. CTO was used for whatever purpose you wanted (sick time, vacation, doctor's appt's, etc.). My manager didn't make us mark down a 2 hour doctor's appointment or anything like that. The real beauty was that from Memorial Day 'til Labor Day we had every other Friday off and half Fridays on the alternate week. Plus there was a company shut down from a few days before Christmas until the new year, so you could take a good 10+ day vacation and only use 2 or 3 of your days if you planned it right.
 
 Now I've only got the standard 2 weeks that accrues over the year and however many sick days I get.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 24, 2007, 06:04:00 pm
1 week per year, plus we're closed Christmas day, New Years Day and Thanksgiving Day. Open all the other ones, yes, even July 4th!!!    :eek:
 
 Smackie, as for the French and vietnam....I don't think the US had french guns to their heads when they headed over. Britain was asked to get invovled and I believe the response was, "fuck off, that's not our mess" or words to that effect. American could've said the same. I just wish Britain had the balls to tell Bush to fuck off, when he decided to invade Iraq.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on July 24, 2007, 06:20:00 pm
With my current position (complete sales) I make my own days/schedule.
 
 With my previous positon (network support), 2 weeks vacation (1 can roll over to next year), 4 personal days, and a 1.5 sick days every month (all rollover for the life of the job). I got a raise annually without asking.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2007, 06:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  "fuck off, that's not our mess"  
Well it's a good thing Roosevelt and Eisenhower didn't feel the same when Churchill came knocking!
 
 The English were a little busy rebuilding their infrastructure after the Blitz and were stretched pretty thin on the mainland holding order between the Soviet Bloc and the West.  And yes, yes, the US could have said no, but that left the French out on a limb on their own with half a country that didn't want to be communist.  What were we to do?  Anyhow, but my beef is more with the way the French have handled all of their colonies in Indochina and French Africa and the audacity with which we are expected to bail them out time and time again, the hammering the US takes from the heads of the French state (and it's people) when they've decided they've had enough and the corresponding lack of respect Americans get when they visit their country.  All that after saving their necks and losing hundreds of thousands of US lives in Europe after D-Day?  Bullshit - they should love us for 100 years, not 100 days.  
 
 The English are always willing to take the piss out of Americans, then share a pint in England.  The French would rather we just went home.  And to that I say good riddens.  Your military is on it's own from here on out.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: alex on July 24, 2007, 08:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I'm sure that helps the good ole USA come in a respectable fifth in overall quality of life index:
 
  http://www.il-ireland.com/il/qofl07/ (http://www.il-ireland.com/il/qofl07/)
 
 
Your questionable unsourced-source aside, I'll take an excellent economy that provides me with better chances to forge my own path than a nanny welfare state that holds people back any day.
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on July 24, 2007, 11:21:00 pm
I just moved to a new job where I get 20 vay-cay days a year... score!
 
 http://doomlink.dreamhosters.com (http://doomlink.dreamhosters.com)
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: edbert on July 25, 2007, 10:06:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 Well it's a good thing Roosevelt and Eisenhower didn't feel the same when Churchill came knocking!
 The English were a little busy rebuilding their infrastructure after the Blitz and were stretched pretty thin on the mainland holding order between the Soviet Bloc and the West.  And yes, yes, the US could have said no, but that left the French out on a limb on their own with half a country ...
Four days after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Italy and Germany declared war on the US; that's when and why we entered the war. We weren't driving the Nazis out of France as a favor to either the French or to Churchill
Title: Re: Off Music-Topic: How many vacation days do you get a yea
Post by: Samantha on July 25, 2007, 10:20:00 am
fuck the government, France is pretty  :D
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Post by: walkonby on July 25, 2007, 10:21:00 am
but how many vacation days did hitler and churchill get?
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Post by: Samantha on July 25, 2007, 10:27:00 am
<img src="http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/t-z/images/warlords/h-324med.jpg" alt=" - " />   <img src="http://www.thirdreichruins.com/overlook2.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Post by: sonickteam2 on July 25, 2007, 10:28:00 am
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 Well it's a good thing Roosevelt and Eisenhower didn't feel the same when Churchill came knocking!
 The English were a little busy rebuilding their infrastructure after the Blitz and were stretched pretty thin on the mainland holding order between the Soviet Bloc and the West.  And yes, yes, the US could have said no, but that left the French out on a limb on their own with half a country ...
Four days after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Italy and Germany declared war on the US; that's when and why we entered the war. We weren't driving the Nazis out of France as a favor to either the French or to Churchill [/b]
funny how different countries learn history so differently.
 
  As we were taught that the US involvement in the war was not much until Pearl Harbor or that Lusitania thing.  thus, leading me to believe you guys were merely defending yourself, not supporting this noble cause against the Axis Powers or cleaning up france's messes.
 
   Canada declared war on Germany years before the US did.  though, not really sure we ever actually attacked them or anything!    :D
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Post by: Samantha on July 25, 2007, 10:39:00 am
I just read yesterday in my book "Don't Know Much About History" the dates of significant events leading up to WWII...and here it is the next day and I can't remember anything.  I know that Japan declared war on us first, and thus we were thrown into that...but I don't remember how we ended up finally at war with Europe.  However, it was definitely a "push comes to shove" thing, getting into it.  For Christ's sake, how long did we think we could stay out of it?
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Post by: sonickteam2 on July 25, 2007, 10:48:00 am
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Originally posted by Samantha:
  I just read yesterday in my book "Don't Know Much About History" the dates of significant events leading up to WWII...and here it is the next day and I can't remember anything.  I know that Japan declared war on us first, and thus we were thrown into that...but I don't remember how we ended up finally at war with Europe.  However, it was definitely a "push comes to shove" thing, getting into it.  For Christ's sake, how long did we think we could stay out of it?
well, also assuming that the US had a lot of economic ties with France and the UK after WWI so surely if Germany ravaged France and the UK, who probably owed the US money....the US loses all that money and that would suck.
 
   so if the US fought to save france, it may have been just so they could pay back the cash.
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Post by: brennser on July 25, 2007, 10:50:00 am
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  fuck the government, France is pretty   :D  
agreed
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Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2007, 12:35:00 pm
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Originally posted by Stairmaster E:
  Four days after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Italy and Germany declared war on the US; that's when and why we entered the war. We weren't driving the Nazis out of France as a favor to either the French or to Churchill
Struck a nerve did I?
 
 Regardless of the reasons for US involvement, the French failed on the their own (hell, most of their army was regrouping over in Britain, and hitched rides on our planes back to their own country), Britain wasn't getting the job done, except to keep Germna troops off British soil, and if it weren't for the US they would be speaking German right now.  So even if it wasn't an outright favor to the French on behalf of the US or the British, they sure as hell should be a lot more thankful than they are today (or have been in the last 50 years).
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Post by: eltee on July 25, 2007, 12:35:00 pm
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  that's the thing. it's soooo spotty. some days i love it. some i hate it. it's really a mixed bag.
 
 but at the same time, i dunno if this is just a quarter-life crisis...
I think that's just life's (a job's) daily ups and downs. When you really hate the job, you will know.  ;)
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Post by: Venerable Bede on July 25, 2007, 02:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by le sonick:
 funny how different countries learn history so differently.
 
  As we were taught that the US involvement in the war was not much until Pearl Harbor or that Lusitania thing.  thus, leading me to believe you guys were merely defending yourself, not supporting this noble cause against the Axis Powers or cleaning up france's messes.
 
i believe the lusitania was world war 1, along with the zimmerman telegram.
 
 anyway- roosevelt engaged in a program called "lend-lease" which was basically the u.s. would send material, ships and other goods to england with the understanding that they would, at some point, pay it back; this was basically just a way to keep the u.s. involved without having to get involved militarily.  even though world war ii started in 1939, the u.s. was very isolationist in their foreign policy (except for the president, who saw that the u.s. could not stay out of international affairs when national security was most definately being threatened). oh, and then there was that whole great depression thingy, which was a big problem.
 
 the point is- france crumbled in just over a month, the vichy was installed, and people turned on each other.  the opposition fled to england or went into hiding in southern france.  without england and u.s. support and troops, where does france go?
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Post by: Samantha on July 25, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
UGH I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT!!!!  "If America had never joined the war, they'd all be speaking German."
 
 For all we know, if America hadn't joined the war, Jesus Christ would have be born in Bavaria, converted Hitler to Judaism, and we'd all be speaking Latin or Yiddish or something.  In fact, in Dick's the Man in the High Castle, in which the Axis wins the war, West coast America speaks Japanese.
 
 War is a game of chance, and you can try to predict it, but most likely it's just going to spit in your face and laugh.  The only history we have are memories and thing's written.  That only gives us point of view and some facts.  Why did America REALLY join the war?  I doubt even the Congress that made the decision truly knew all the cards they were dealt, regardless of what they thought they knew.
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Post by: Samantha on July 25, 2007, 02:31:00 pm
God, I swear I'm not usually this geeky.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 25, 2007, 02:34:00 pm
it matters less who's grateful or not than who gets the most vacation days. speaking as someone that doesnt get many, that is
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Post by: Samantha on July 25, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
I get lots of vacations and I'm very grateful.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on July 25, 2007, 02:40:00 pm
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Originally posted by Samantha:
 
 Why did America REALLY join the war?  I doubt even the Congress that made the decision truly knew all the cards they were dealt, regardless of what they thought they knew.
well, there was pearl harbor. . .which resulted in japan, germany and italy declaring war on the u.s. . .that might have had something to do with it.   :)
 
 unless you are conspiracy theorist who thinks that roosevelt knew in advance that japan was going to attack pearl harbor and let it happen so that the u.s. would have a reason to join the war and kick out the isolationists.
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Post by: Samantha on July 25, 2007, 02:52:00 pm
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but America knew they were going to be attacked by Japan, historians have already acknowledged that.  They had long deciphered Japanese codes, and so had other countries, which kindly let America know they were going to be attacked.  I don't know that they were expecting that kind of scale, however...
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Post by: ggw on July 25, 2007, 02:53:00 pm
This thread makes me want to go to Japan for my next vacation.
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Post by: Bags on July 25, 2007, 02:57:00 pm
15 days: first 2 years
 
 20 days: years 3 - 8
 
 1 day: birthday holiday available to all
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Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2007, 02:58:00 pm
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  UGH I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT!!!!  "If America had never joined the war, they'd all be speaking German."
Just chalk it up on the list of thngs I say that make the list of phrases that annoy people.  But until someone finds me a better phrase that annoys French people, I'm going to keep using it.
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Post by: Samantha on July 25, 2007, 03:18:00 pm
you don't need a phrase, just mispronounce something in French.
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Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2007, 03:19:00 pm
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  you don't need a phrase, just mispronounce something in French.
I would never lower myself to speak French.
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Post by: edbert on July 25, 2007, 03:20:00 pm
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  you don't need a phrase, just mispronounce something in French.
Or try to order coffee WITH your dinner
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Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2007, 03:34:00 pm
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  Or try to order coffee WITH your dinner
Ever try to skip dinner?  Oh geez....
 
 I was on a red eye Air France flight from either Dulles or La Guardia to De Gaulle and they were serving their famous (insert high number here) course meal.  I NEVER fly Air France but this had been a travel nightmare getting to Budapest and I was rerouted to an Air France flight on a Delta Code share.  Anyhow, so I was trying to catch up on some Z's and the Frenchie flight attendant kept waking me up asking my why I didn't finish the previous course and where she should put the next course of cheeeezzzzee.  After the third time I told I didn't want anymore fucking cheese and if she woke me up again I was going to stick that cheese somewhere she didn't want to see it.  I was woken the next time by the French security marshall who asked me if there was problem.  I explained that all I wanted to do was sleep and that she kept waking me up for the next cheese course.  He asked why I didn't tell her that, and I proceeded to explain that I did, more than once, explain that I wasn't hungry and that I just wanted to sleep.  And he asked, with his French accent, did you tell her in French?  
 
 I said in perfect English, "I don't speak French, sir, but apparently she knows enough English to know that I was going to stick that cheese up her ass if she came back, but now you're telling me that she doesn't know enough English to understand that all I wanted to be was left alone?"
 
 I was left alone the rest of the flight, and somehow not met by the French police when we landed.
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Post by: Samantha on July 25, 2007, 03:41:00 pm
Thanks.  I feel a definite improvement in the quality of my life because of reading that story.
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Post by: beetsnotbeats on July 25, 2007, 03:41:00 pm
Threadjack of the year.... And on a thread marked "off topic."
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Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2007, 03:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
  Threadjack of the year.... And on a thread marked "off topic."
Guilty as charged for perpetuating it, but I will give the honors to Rhett for the threadjack.
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Post by: Cali on July 25, 2007, 05:07:00 pm
26 days leave
 15 sick days
 about 10 paid holidays
 
 i love my leave, but dont always like the job. keep trying to tell myself that this job allows me to attend all the shows i do and that there will always be something i dont like about where i work---even if its my dream job. maybe this is my dream job and i just dont know it...yeah right
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Post by: sweetcell on July 26, 2007, 07:55:00 am
started with, and three years later still at: 20 combo days (sick + vacation), 6 holidays, max rollover 100% of sick/vacation (not hard to do, having vacation days vs. being able to take them are two very different things...)
 
 when i finished grad school, peeps laughed at me for considering # of vacation days as highly as i did - they were only interested in starting salary and bonuses.  now i see them hunting for new gigs as they get burned out, or being really miserable.
 
   
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 And the worst part is - I love nearly every minute of my job.
understandable, since they're nearly all spent on this bboard    :p  
 
 <re-lurk again>
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Post by: Samantha on July 26, 2007, 03:26:00 pm
hey guys can you all quit talking about the main topic, we had a fun threadjack going on with some good ZINGs so stop plz kthx
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Post by: vansmack on July 26, 2007, 05:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
  understandable, since they're nearly all spent on this bboard     :p    
Multi-tasking!  I am the master.  
 
 You'll be happy to know that while I'm not directly posting and reading today, I'm going over the latest RIAA pre-litigation letters sent to our students.  I have a pretty good idea of what I'm going to do with them.  Like I said, I love my job!
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Post by: MindCage on July 27, 2007, 01:05:00 pm
Right now I could take off 2 months of work and still get paid with the vacation time I've got racked up. I need to burn through a bit before March 2008, since they've changed our policy around a bit.
 
 Even while touring last year, I only used 7 days of vacation since I worked while on the road.
 
 MindCage
 Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
 Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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Post by: bikerchickdc on July 28, 2007, 11:11:00 am
I get 11 company holidays, 2 "floating" holidays that I can use wherever I want, and I accrue 6 hours PTO every pay period, which equals 12 hours PTO a month. We can carry over up to 240 hours but the floating holidays expire at the end of the year. I think it's a pretty reasonable deal... but I also work from home, travel quite a bit for work, and get "unofficial comp time" pretty regularly. They have to be very flexible with our team's schedules because we're on 24x7 oncall. About every other month I will have to travel last minute and put in some serious hours at customer sites, pull late nights, etc, and when the dust settles my boss always tells me "turn in your expense reports then turn your cell phone off till Wednesday." We're also allowed to travel wherever we want at our expense and work from there; as long as I have Internet access and can get to an airport in less than 90 minutes, I'm good to go.  
 
 One of my co-workers has been on the team for almost 2 years; he just used his first PTO hours last week even though he's had *plenty* of time off. I've had about 6 mini-vacations (long weekend sort of thing) this year and used all of 2 leave days.  I've spent complete weeks hanging with friends in Boston or NYC and not used any leave.
 
 I was getting really jealous at some of the other posts with people who get a lot more leave than I do till I remembered all the other perks I have!
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Post by: vansmack on July 28, 2007, 04:26:00 pm
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Originally posted by bikerchickdc:
  I was getting really jealous at some of the other posts with people who get a lot more leave than I do till I remembered all the other perks I have!
I would gladly trade my vacation perks to be a biker chick.
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Post by: bull930 on August 07, 2007, 02:14:00 am
25 days total(sick + annual)