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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: debaser64 on July 25, 2007, 12:55:00 pm
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on 10/30 according to pitchfork. Is there any more info on this yet?
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The aforementioned pitchfork article:
Ryan Adams Extends Tour for Umpteenth Time
Ryan Adams and the Cardinals continue on their previously reported trek to bring Easy Tiger to the masses, but true to form, the prolific (and chatty) songwriter has added even more dates to the tour.
That tour now extends all the way into December, and while there are quite a few more new North American dates, the big additions are stops in Australia and New Zealand in August and the UK in late fall.
The next stop of the tour is tomorrow (July 26) in Portland.
Dates:
07-26 Portland, OR - Aladdin Theater
07-27 Seattle, WA - Moore Theater
07-28 Vancouver, British Columbia - Commodore Ballroom
07-30 Boise, ID - Big Easy
07-31 Salt Lake City, UT - Red Butte Garden Amphitheatre
08-02 Boulder, CO - Fox Theatre
08-03 Morrison, CO - Red Rocks Amphitheatre
08-16 Auckland, New Zealand - Bruce Mason Centre
08-18 Brisbane, Australia - The Tivoli
08-20 Melbourne, Australia - Palais Theatre
08-22 Adelaide, Australia - Her Majesty's Theater
08-23 Sydney, Australia - Enmore Theater
09-01 Turin, NY - moe.down
09-13 Charlottesville, VA - Paramount Theatre
03-16 Northampton, MA - Calvin Theatre
09-17 Portland, ME - Merrill Auditorium
09-19 Montreal, Quebec - St. Denise Theatre
09-21 Toronto, Ontario - Massey Hall
09-22 Ann Arbor, MI - Michigan Theater
09-24 Kalamazoo, MI - State Theater
09-25 Milwaukee, WI - The Riverside
09-27 Minneapolis, MN - State Theater
09-29 Chicago, IL - Chicago Theatre
10-01 Iowa City, IA - Main Lounge
10-02 Kansas City, MO - Uptown Theatre
10-04 Champaign, IL - Foellinger Auditorium
10-05 St. Louis, MO - The Pageant
10-10 London, England - Royal Albert Hall *
10-12 Charleston, SC - North Charleston Performing Arts Centre
10-29 Pittsburgh, PA - Carnegie Music Hall
10-30 Washington, DC - Constitution Hall
11-11 Cardiff, Wales - Millennium Centre
11-12 Nottingham, England - Royal Center
11-15 Manchester, England - Apollo
11-16 London, England - Hammersmith Apollo
12-01 Glasgow, Scotland - Clyde Auditorium
* with Cowboy Junkies
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Ryan will be doing a KINK-FM radio performance at 3:30 PM Pacific/6:30 PM Eastern today while he's in town.
Will stream online here (http://static.intertechmedia.com/inf/kink/index.html)
Looking forward to the PDX and Seattle shows. :)
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FYI...pre-sale for the DC date is this Thursday:
Tue, 10/30/07
08:00 PM
Dar Constitution Hall
Washington, DC Ryan Adams
Thu, 08/02/07 10:00 AM
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how does this itunes presale work? do you have to buy the record through itunes, or is there a password that can be shared with the board?
thanks!
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If you didn't buy the new record via itunes, then you're out of luck. The password can only be used once...it's unique.
Originally posted by Fadger:
how does this itunes presale work? do you have to buy the record through itunes, or is there a password that can be shared with the board?
thanks!
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Yeah, I should have mentioned that...the pre-sale is for the folks who pre-ordered Easy Tiger from the iTunes Music Store. So, you can't go buy it now from iTMS and get a password.
But chin up, there's another pre-sale next Thursday (8/9), so my guess is the general sale will happen soon after.
Highly recommend checking out this tour. (Not that I'm biased in the least.) The show in Portland was incredible. The band played so well, the vocal harmonies were insane, and Ryan is a funny mofo. I can't wait for the audio to start circulating.
The Seattle show could have been better, but I put most of the blame on the members of the audience who decided to yell out random song requests when Ryan was trying to tell a story or when the band was tuning between songs.
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How does he go from Sonar last year to Constitution Hall this year? Its frustrating to see him in a place like that.
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This is a proper tour supporting an album...and he's big. I'm sure he'd have no trouble selling out DAR.
Originally posted by georgewendt:
How does he go from Sonar last year to Constitution Hall this year? Its frustrating to see him in a place like that.
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what a crock of shit this itunes presale is, i thought presales were a way to reward fans loyalty to an artist rather than a record store . .
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Originally posted by Fadger:
what a crock of shit this itunes presale is, i thought presales were a way to reward fans loyalty to an artist rather than a record store . .
You're helping him out by purchasing his music. Besides he could've charged $30 to join a fan club and get a pre-sale password like a lot of bands are doing now.
I don't think they give the best seats at pre-sales anyway.
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Originally posted by georgewendt:
How does he go from Sonar last year to Constitution Hall this year? Its frustrating to see him in a place like that.
I saw him at Meyerhoff in Baltimore two years ago and the fit with the venue wasn't that bad- except for his insanity/lack of sobriety leading him to start singing in the middle of the audience.
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He's been playing seated venues during the current tour dates and I think it's a good fit for the versions of the songs they're playing live. I attended the 2005 Meyerhoff show, too, and fortunately, Ryan is sober now.
The band is seated and lined up across the stage rather than in the more traditional lead singer standing in front, guitarist on the left, bassist on the right, etc.
Funny how something becomes a "crock of shit" so quickly when someone misses out. :roll:
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Originally posted by Random Citizen PDX:
But chin up, there's another pre-sale next Thursday (8/9), so my guess is the general sale will happen soon after.
Through?
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Originally posted by Greer Zoller:
Through?
DAR uses Ticketmaster for ticket sales.
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Regular onsale date is th 10th. It says it on the Ticketmaster page.
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Funny how something becomes a "crock of shit" so quickly when someone misses out.
I think it is a dumb system irrespective of whether you miss out or not. Is it not enough to buy the new record in your preferred format? Why should it have to be bought through one particular vendor? I like to have the CD, artwork etc and go to the show
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Originally posted by 6949:
You're helping him out by purchasing his music.
What if I don't have an iPod or use iTunes?
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by 6949:
You're helping him out by purchasing his music.
What if I don't have an iPod or use iTunes? [/b]
Then, you don't get access to a password for one of the two pre-sales occurring. *shrugs* There were other bonus items attached with purchasing the album via the iTunes Music Store, though, so it really depends on the person and their preference.
People will always complain about pre-sales regardless of who is offering the tickets. But I think it's lame to ask for someone to give up a password and then when denied, start to pout.
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Originally posted by Random Citizen PDX:
Originally posted by Greer Zoller:
Through?
DAR uses Ticketmaster for ticket sales. [/b]
Right.
You mentioned the iTunes pre-sale is over (unless I'm confused on that too). So, where is the password for next Thursday's pre-sale? (Too bad I'm out of town for his Charlottesville shows.)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by 6949:
You're helping him out by purchasing his music.
What if I don't have an iPod or use iTunes? [/b]
If I recall correctly, they offered the same option via Amazon.
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Originally posted by Greer Zoller:
You mentioned the iTunes pre-sale is over (unless I'm confused on that too).
Actually, the iTunes pre-sale happens this Thursday, August 2. The next pre-sale is next Thursday, August 9 and the password is right here on his site (http://www.ryan-adams.com/web/guest/newsinfo).
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Thanks, Random.
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To clarify: "How does he go from Sonar last year to Constitution Hall this year? Its frustrating to see him in a place like that."
The usual progression, as ability to draw crowds increases, often goes something like this: Friend's Party -> Galaxy Hut -> Iota/RnR Hotel -> Black Cat -> 930 Opener -> 930 headliner -> Patriot Center/Constitution hall -> Verizon center.
The step between Sonar and Constitution Hall is what I'm missing.
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I doubt he'll ever play Verizon Center. Did you also notice that the Sonar show sold out pretty quickly? You just got lucky that he played Sonar. He could have played DAR at that time, but chose not to. Big acts *want* to play small venues sometimes, it's a fact.
Hey...Smashing Pumpkins just played the 930...will you be surprised if they play DAR next time around...?
Originally posted by georgewendt:
The usual progression, as ability to draw crowds increases, often goes something like this: Friend's Party -> Galaxy Hut -> Iota/RnR Hotel -> Black Cat -> 930 Opener -> 930 headliner -> Patriot Center/Constitution hall -> Verizon center.
The step between Sonar and Constitution Hall is what I'm missing.
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Well I saw Ryan play the store window of Schoolkids Records in Chapel Hill and at the Brewery in Raleigh back in '97, as well as hanging out at the bar at the Old 97's show at Local 506 in Chapel Hill the same year. So fuck y'all. :p
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Saw Ryan Adams at Foley's Cellar :)
http://users.skynet.be/bobsboots/RyanAdamsFoleysCellar.htm (http://users.skynet.be/bobsboots/RyanAdamsFoleysCellar.htm)
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Well I saw Ryan play the store window of Schoolkids Records in Chapel Hill and at the Brewery in Raleigh back in '97, as well as hanging out at the bar at the Old 97's show at Local 506 in Chapel Hill the same year. So fuck y'all. :p
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Will Sheryl Crow make a special guest appearance at his show?
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Originally posted by georgewendt:
The step between Sonar and Constitution Hall is what I'm missing.
Your theory on progression is somewhat flawed as it ignores that some people will never play smaller venues thanks to good connections, opening for a larger band and gaining that fanbase, etc.
With regards to Ryan, I'm guessing you weren't around or into him when he's played the 9:30 several times over the years? All of which have sold out within a couple of days, if not minutes?
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Or in the line that snaked outside Iota. Or at Whiskeytown's show at the Bayou in Georgetown.
Originally posted by Random Citizen PDX:
Originally posted by georgewendt:
The step between Sonar and Constitution Hall is what I'm missing.
Your theory on progression is somewhat flawed as it ignores that some people will never play smaller venues thanks to good connections, opening for a larger band and gaining that fanbase, etc.
With regards to Ryan, I'm guessing you weren't around or into him when he's played the 9:30 several times over the years? All of which have sold out within a couple of days, if not minutes? [/b]
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Or, as already mentioned, he's played the Meyerhoff, which is a middle ground in our area between Sonar and DAR.
The Sonar show was not in support of any given album, so it was not as big of a deal; it was just him playing six months or so after he released his previous album, which is an eternity for him.
That said, this whole "quieter" Adams we are supposed to get at DAR is not getting me excited. I'll probably skip this show.
Originally posted by Random Citizen PDX:
Originally posted by georgewendt:
The step between Sonar and Constitution Hall is what I'm missing.
Your theory on progression is somewhat flawed as it ignores that some people will never play smaller venues thanks to good connections, opening for a larger band and gaining that fanbase, etc.
With regards to Ryan, I'm guessing you weren't around or into him when he's played the 9:30 several times over the years? All of which have sold out within a couple of days, if not minutes? [/b]
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Originally posted by You go, Judge Alito:
That said, this whole "quieter" Adams we are supposed to get at DAR is not getting me excited. I'll probably skip this show.
I don't know if he's quieter, he's just sitting down. Apparently, the recent shows sounded amazing.
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Originally posted by Greer Zoller:
I don't know if he's quieter, he's just sitting down. Apparently, the recent shows sounded amazing.
He was quite chatty at the Portland show, less so at the Seattle one.
In Portland, the show closed with him walking to the front of the stage (there was already a mic stand in place), wearing sunglasses and singing "Goodnight, Hollywood Blvd." God, that show was great...
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did the password work for anyone?? I typed in the password that was on his website and it said "The password you entered is not in our system. Please try again. "
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ummm, the password from the website will work next week. This one is for the itunes presale!
Originally posted by bizou311®:
did the password work for anyone?? I typed in the password that was on his website and it said "The password you entered is not in our system. Please try again. "
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whoops, i thought it was today. thanks.
Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
ummm, the password from the website will work next week. This one is for the itunes presale!
Originally posted by bizou311®:
did the password work for anyone?? I typed in the password that was on his website and it said "The password you entered is not in our system. Please try again. "
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Originally posted by bizou311®:
whoops, i thought it was today. thanks.
Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
ummm, the password from the website will work next week. This one is for the itunes presale!
Originally posted by bizou311®:
did the password work for anyone?? I typed in the password that was on his website and it said "The password you entered is not in our system. Please try again. "
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I only had Random spell it out in the sand! ;)
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cool, got me some preale tickets.
anyone ever sit in a "box seat"? i've never been to DAR, turned down ORCH row KK for Box 32, cause it didnt seem to be much different.
anyway, looking fwd to the show.
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yup, i've sat in boxes numerous times at DAR and i'm a big fan if you can't get decent Orch seats. you indeed did the right thing taking the box seats over orch that far back - you'll have a clear line of sight, and people in the boxes are less likely to stand up for an entire show (not sure what ryan adams shows are like, tho). get there on the early side since boxes are GA. each one has 5 moveable chairs in it, get there first to grab the two at the front (although you might want the two along the side/inner edge). if given a choice i prefer boxes 11 through 26.
http://www.dar.org/conthall/seating.cfm (http://www.dar.org/conthall/seating.cfm) --> click central graphic for high-res version
why hasn't anyone posted that annoying and oh-so-original south park "dar dar!" picture yet? :roll:
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I almost reserved one of the box seats for those reasons. Thanks for the add'l information.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
yup, i've sat in boxes numerous times at DAR and i'm a big fan if you can't get decent Orch seats. you indeed did the right thing taking the box seats over orch that far back - you'll have a clear line of sight, and peoples in the boxes are less likely to stand up for an entire show (not sure what ryan adams shows are like, tho). get there on the early side since boxes are GA. each one has 5 moveable chairs in it, get there first to grab the two at the front (although you might want the two along the side/inner edge). if given a choice i prefer boxes 11 through 26.
http://www.dar.org/conthall/seating.cfm (http://www.dar.org/conthall/seating.cfm) --> click central graphic for high-res version
why hasn't anyone posted that annoying and oh-so-original south park "dar dar!" picture yet? ;)
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Originally posted by le sonick:
so theres 5 chairs...how many people do they cram in one of those boxes then? 5? 10? 100? ;)
no, not THAT kind of a GA, you hoser. there are only 5 tickets sold per box, you are guaranteed a chair (just not a specific chair).
for shows that aren't 100% sold out, it's common that only 4 of the 5 chairs are sold, so you can shuffle them around and get quite comfy. when all 5 are sold, it can get a tad crowded - you have to play musical chairs to let people out. not horrible though.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by le sonick:
so theres 5 chairs...how many people do they cram in one of those boxes then? 5? 10? 100? ;)
no, not THAT kind of a GA, you hoser. there are only 5 tickets sold per box, you are guaranteed a chair (just not a specific chair).
for shows that aren't 100% sold out, it's common that only 4 of the 5 chairs are sold, so you can shuffle them around and get quite comfy. when all 5 are sold, it can get a tad crowded - you have to play musical chairs to let people out. not horrible though. [/b]
coolness! we bought 4 tickets so we may have our very own box! werd.
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maybe - but it seems like there is a lot of demand for this ryan adams show... if it's the kind of concert where people are snatching up all the singles, then you might have a fifth. but i hope that you don't :)
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by le sonick:
[qb]so theres 5 chairs...how many people do they cram in one of those boxes then? 5? 10? 100? :) Oh well, I'll see you there!
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The most-excellent Portland show (7/26/07) was posted on archive.org (http://www.archive.org/details/radams2007-07-26.sbd.flac16) earlier this week. You can stream it on the site before downloading, which is cool. I've been seeding the show since late Tuesday night and it's getting a lot of traffic. :)
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Saw him last time around and was really disappointed. Did he get his act together a bit more? The show I saw sort of blew. When I say 'act' I do not mean drugs, I know he kicked a lot, but I almost liked him when he was half in the bag.
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The new album is not doing it for me. It sounds like a male version of Sheryl Crow...
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Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
The new album is not doing it for me. It sounds like a male version of Sheryl Crow...
She sings back up on "Two", so I find it funny that you've pointed that out! (Though I'm not sure if the album does sound like a Male Sheryl Crow or not...Still deciding that one. Besides, which era of her work are we talking about...recent or like Tuesday Night Music Club?)
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So I received my ticket today, Orchestra, Row A, Seat 5 and on the ticket it says, "May Be Obstructed". I have never been to DAR so what the hell?
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Originally posted by ayates:
So I received my ticket today, Orchestra, Row A, Seat 5 and on the ticket it says, "May Be Obstructed". I have never been to DAR so what the hell?
You should be fine so long as he doesn't play the show standing at the back of the stage, on the side that you are sitting.
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have a look at http://www.dar.org/conthall/seating.cfm (http://www.dar.org/conthall/seating.cfm) (or http://www.dar.org/pics/conthall/seatchrtbig.gif (http://www.dar.org/pics/conthall/seatchrtbig.gif) for high-rez) - your seat is at the far side, third seat in from the aisle. *sometimes* the PA might be set up in such a way to block part of the view, sometimes not (they can shove it all the way to the side, or they don't have any stacks on the stage since they're all suspended from the ceiling).
either way, you'll be able to see center of the stage (i.e. ryan) no problem. you'll be fine.
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we had the same seats, opposite side of the stage for roots/chuck brown/lupe earlier this year. i seem to recall stacks, but our view wasn't obstructed. a little too loud for my liking without earplugs, and my neck hurt like a bitch having to keep it turned for hours (i'm too damn considerate). all in all, no complaints.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
either way, you'll be able to see center of the stage (i.e. ryan) no problem. you'll be fine.
If they stay in the current stage set-up, from left (facing the stage)...it's the piano guy (forget his name), Ryan, Brad (drums), Chris (bass), Neal (guitar), Jon (steel).
But I've read elsewhere that the fall tour will change it up a bit, so take that with a grain of salt.
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That's good to hear that seat 5 is alright. Seat 6 is what I'm buying and I was worried I wouldn't be able to see anything.
I have a few questions still though...
1. If you're in the front row of the concert, can't you get closer to the stage? I remember when IMP had shows for Morrissey and The pixies both at DAR Hall, people were up against the baracades, but they most likely had tickets for the first row or two. Any possibility of that happening for this show?
2.I found other tickets that are like for Section B, Row A, seat 1 (and around those areas too) and ticketmaster also gave warnings for those may have obstructed views too. Are those good seats? While I would love to be up front, I also have to consider my hearing. (Granted, Ryan Adams is an artist worthy of making my ears ring, I'd like to hang onto to my hearing so I can see him again someday and well, I have Morrissey the day after him)
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I actually left out a question...
I just looked at the map and realized that seat 6 is on the opposite side of seat 5. So is it going to be a good view?
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At Bloc Party there were no barricades. In fact they came through a few times and told us to stop leaning on the stage.
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Originally posted by saintangelsin:
1. If you're in the front row of the concert, can't you get closer to the stage?
Ha. Thanks for making me laugh. Anyone else have memories (most from the 90s) of getting yelled at by the ushers when you got out of your seat?
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Is the orchestra level at DAR always seated? Or do they take the seats out of the ground level for certain events?
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Originally posted by Fadger:
Is the orchestra level at DAR always seated? Or do they take the seats out of the ground level for certain events?
i've never seen the seats removed, i'm certain that they are permanent and all shows are "seated". but depending on the performers, people may not actually spend much time seated. i remember grohl asking, with some degree of disbelief, during the acoustic tour to please sit down - "this is an acoustic show, people!". with a flat orch section, as soon as they first few rows stand up, everyone behind them has to as well if they want to see anything. advantage of boxes and sides: more possibilities of staying seated and still having a view :)
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
At Bloc Party there were no barricades. In fact they came through a few times and told us to stop leaning on the stage.
So do you think I should go for seat 6 in row A for the Orchestra???