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Police Search Michael Jackson's California Ranch
Tue November 18, 2003 01:39 PM ET
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Police swarmed over pop superstar Michael Jackson's opulent Neverland Ranch, near Santa Barbara in central California, on Tuesday as part of an unspecified criminal investigation, police said.
A Santa Barbara Sheriff's spokesman said sheriff's deputies and officials from the District Attorney's office went to the sprawling ranch at 8.30 a.m. PST to "serve a search warrant as part of an ongoing criminal investigation."
The search was still going on two hours later.
Police did not specify the nature of the investigation, but cable channel Court TV said it stemmed from allegations of sexual abuse brought by a 12-year-old boy against the self-styled King of Pop.
A spokesman for Jackson was not immediately available for comment and Jackson's whereabouts were not immediately clear.
The allegations come nine years after a 14-year-old reached an out-of-court agreement to settle a lawsuit accusing the singer of molesting him in 1992. No criminal charges were ever brought in that case.
Tuesday's search warrant follows a tumultuous year for Jackson, whose talents as an entertainer have been eclipsed by his often bizarre behavior both before the cameras and away from them.
In November last year, the former child-star stunned fans in Berlin by dangling his barefoot baby from a hotel window.
Then in February, he revealed in a British television documentary that he shared his Neverland bedroom with young boys and made his children wear masks in public.
The frank revelations sparked calls for an investigation by California child welfare authorities at the Neverland ranch, where Jackson has built theme-park style rides, a zoo and a mini railroad track which he throws open to local children.
In June, Jackson settled a $12 million breach of contract lawsuit by his former top adviser, avoiding a trial that threatened to spill details of his financial empire and personal life into open court.
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He should move to France.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He should move to France.
You should destroy your copy of thriller.
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euuuuuuuuugh
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Perhaps this was a confession:
Because Iâ??m bad, Iâ??m bad-come on
(bad bad-really, really bad)
You know Iâ??m bad, Iâ??m bad-you know it
(bad bad-really, really bad)
You know Iâ??m bad, Iâ??m bad-come on, you know
(bad bad-really, really bad)
And the whole world has to answer right now
Just to tell you once again,
Whoâ??s bad . . .
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Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He should move to France.
You should destroy your copy of thriller. [/b]
You mean this? (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000019P6/qid=1069191108/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-2954407-8887346?v=glance&s=music)
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He should move to France.
You should destroy your copy of thriller. [/b]
You mean this? (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000019P6/qid=1069191108/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-2954407-8887346?v=glance&s=music) [/b]
whatcha goin show him that for? do you think i'm made of money?
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He should move to France.
You should destroy your copy of thriller. [/b]
You mean this? (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000019P6/qid=1069191108/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-2954407-8887346?v=glance&s=music) [/b]
whatcha goin show him that for? do you think i'm made of money? [/b]
Tell him I'll make him a copy.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
]Tell him I'll make him a copy.
i love you
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Thankyou GGW.....
I stopped buying them after tools in the drier, which I dont really like.
So I have that, Nixon, is a woman, and three rare live things that are my favourites..... I dont remember if I gave you pet sounds sucks or treasure chest of the enemy?
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There you go, ggw. Time indeed for you to burn your copy of 'Thriller'. :p
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Father Jackson....
when will people forget and leave him alone.... he just likes to beat itwith little boys
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Originally posted by PR_GMR:
There you go, ggw. Time indeed for you to burn your copy of 'Thriller'. :p
Gladly.
Then again, you know, this whole issue of criminality and sex with minors is kind of vague. Didn't we let Jerry Lee Lewis off the hook? Maybe Michael thought the boy was of age. And where was the mother? And hasn't Michael suffered enough in his own skin?
:p
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I've been wondering when Michael Jackson's nose (or one of them) is going to show up on ebay.
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all in good time.....all in good time....
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YYYYYYAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNN............
<img src="http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-015.gif" alt=" - " />................... <img src="http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-009.gif" alt=" - " />................... <img src="http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-005.gif" alt=" - " />.................... <img src="http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-015.gif" alt=" - " />
(I wish I knew a good onomatopoeia for a yawn)
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
hasn't Michael suffered enough in his own skin?
Is that really his original skin?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Didn't we let Jerry Lee Lewis off the hook? Maybe Michael thought the boy was of age. And where was the mother? And hasn't Michael suffered enough in his own skin?
:p
Michael to be arrested? (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1069179247021_78/?hub=CTVNewsAt11)
I dont like Michael Jackson's art. It is alleged that he is messing about with pre-pubescent kids. It would appear that he is a repeat offender.
I really would not mind to see him rot.
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What I would like to know is: Who, in their right mind, would now let their kids be around him, after the first round of molestation allegations levelled against Jacko several years ago? What were the parents thinking, "But wasn't he accused of molestation? Who cares, the tykes seem to love him. Little Billy, go pack your toys...you're going to Uncle Mike's ranch for the holidays!"
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
What I would like to know is: Who, in their right mind, would now let their kids be around him!" [/i]
Parents looking for a $12 million payout.....
Makes for a cool bumper sticker too,
"Our son was fondled by the king of pop"
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Well an arrest warrant has been issued for Jacko. Ironically, as this all unfolds, he's been in Las Vegas shooting a video for a song called "One More Chance".
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Originally posted by markie:
"Our son was fondled by the king of pop" [/b]
you leave Moz out of this.
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I wonder what Snap and Crackle think?
<img src="http://members.aol.com/fridgemagco/krispies.jpg" alt=" - " />
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There's a press conference at 2:00 eastern...I can't even imagine. Man oh man. Or should I say Boy oh boy.
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posted by Bagster
There's a press conference at 2:00 eastern...I can't even imagine. Man oh man. Or should I say Boy oh boy.
A shame that I'm at work and can't see it... Do you think they'll show Michael being taken away in handcuffs? :cool:
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Robbie Fulks has been having a hard time finding a label that will release his MJ tribute. It just got harder.
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This is AMAZING:
'Mr. Sneddon also warned parents against allowing their children to sleep over at Neverland, a practice that has continued despite the questions about Mr. Jackson's conduct that were first raised more than a decade ago."
November 19, 2003
California Police Issue Arrest Warrant for Michael Jackson
By MARIA NEWMAN
California authorities said today that they had issued an arrest warrant for the singer Michael Jackson on multiple counts of child molestation.
The sheriff of Santa Barbara County, Jim Anderson, said at a press conference today that he and the district attorney, Thomas W. Sneddon Jr., were working with Mr. Jackson's lawyers to arrange for his surrender, and that they would ask bail of $3 million be set for him.
Sheriff Anderson and Mr. Sneddon would not name the child involved, nor would they say when or where the activity under investigation had taken place.
"I believe he is willing to cooperate with us and turn in his passport at this time," Sheriff Anderson said of Mr. Jackson, who was last reported to be in Las Vegas, on Tuesday, making a video. The two officials would not say how much time they had given Mr. Jackson to surrender.
Lawyers for Mr. Jackson called the charges "outrageous" in a statement issued on his behalf less than two hours after news conference. The lawyers, led by Mark Geragos of Los Angeles, said Mr. Jackson would return to Santa Barbara from Las Vegas to confront the accusations.
"The outrageous allegation against Michael Jackson are false," the statement said. "Michael would never harm a child in any way. These scurrilous and totally unfounded allegations will be proven false in a courtroom."
The warrant was issued under a California law that prohibits lewd or lascivious acts with a child under age 14, and a conviction could result in up to eight years in prison, the two law enforcement officials told reporters in the televised news conference at the Earl Warren Showgrounds in Santa Barbara.
The announcement of the arrest warrant comes a day after more than than 60 law enforcement officers searched Mr. Jackson's ranch, Neverland, on the authority of a warrant issued by Superior Court in Santa Barbara for what officials then would say only was a "criminal investigation." The sheriff and the district attorney said investigators arrived at the ranch at 8:30 a.m. and did not leave until 11 p.m.
Mr. Jackson, 45, did not immediately respond to the officials' announcement of the arrest warrant. But on Tuesday, he denounced news media coverage of the search in a statement given to The Associated Press by his spokesman, Stuart Backerman.
"I've seen lawyers who don't represent me and spokespeople who do not know me speaking for me," Mr. Jackson's statement said. "These characters always seem to surface with dreadful allegations just as another project, an album, a video is being released," a reference to the release of Mr. Jackson's greatest hits album, "Number Ones," on Tuesday.
At the press conference today, Mr. Sneddon, the district attorney, said the timing of the arrest warrant had nothing to do with Mr. Jackson's musical career.
"Like the sheriff and I are into that kind of music," he said, eliciting laughter at the press conference. "It has nothing to do with anything else that goes on his in life. We don't track him."
That and other occasional laughter at the news conference came in for sharp criticism in the statement issued by Mr. Jackson's lawyers. "Naturally the implications are disturbing to everyone who hears them, which is precisely the point," the statement said. "We are disturbed by the levity of the environment surrounding the announcement of these very serious charges."
Despite â?? or perhaps because of â?? the widespread public attention prompted by the arrest warrant, the sheriff and the district attorney said that they would not grant interviews to any of the array of journalists from around the world who had either come to Santa Barbara or had contacted their offices. The officials asserted that all official information about the case would be delivered only at news conferences or through official proceedings.
Almost 10 years ago, Mr. Jackson faced another investigation of child molestation involving a 12-year-old boy. No charges were ever filed in that case, but during the investigation, the boy's family filed a civil lawsuit, and Mr. Jackson settled out of court, reportedly for several million dollars.
In December 1993, Mr. Jackson, fighting back tears, denied in a television appearance broadcast from the ranch that he had sexually abused the boy, and called the accusations "disgusting" and "totally false."
"Don't treat me like a criminal, because I am innocent," the pop star pleaded at that time.
Mr. Sneddon said that the laws in California on child molestation have changed since then. At that time, he said, they required the cooperation of the victim; now, he said, they do not.
Mr. Sneddon said that in the previous case, after the civil case was settled, the child and his parents were not interested in pursuing a criminal investigation.
"As a result of that Michael Jackson case, the Legislature changed the law," the district attorney said.
"We have a cooperative witness in this case," he added. "There is no civil case filed in this particular instance nor do we anticipate one being filed."
Mr. Jackson's ranch, in the Santa Ynez Valley, about 110 miles north of Los Angeles, has a zoo and an amusement park with a Ferris wheel, bumper cars and a merry-go-round. It is five miles north of Los Olivos, a town of about 1,000 that is surrounded by vineyards and ranches where Arabian horses and Hereford cattle are bred.
Mr. Jackson, who has three children of his own, often entertains children there and has said he sees himself as childlike. In an interview with British television broadcast earlier this year by ABC, Mr. Jackson said, "I am Peter Pan." He also said that during visits by children, he often slept in a bed with them, and that he saw nothing wrong with that.
"When you say bed, you're thinking sexual," the singer said to the interviewer. "It's not sexual, we're going to sleep. I tuck them in," adding, "It's very charming, it's very sweet."
Sheriff Anderson said said that if anyone else had information about Mr. Jackson possibly molesting other children, "We would encourage the public to come forward so that we can follow up on that information."
Mr. Sneddon also warned parents against allowing their children to sleep over at Neverland, a practice that has continued despite the questions about Mr. Jackson's conduct that were first raised more than a decade ago.
"My advice is, don't do it," he said.
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damn todays the 19th!?!?!?! i have been dateing my papers wrong all week!...
Father Jackson just doesn't understand the perverted minds of the public...
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Didn't we let Jerry Lee Lewis off the hook? Maybe Michael thought the boy was of age. And where was the mother? And hasn't Michael suffered enough in his own skin?
:p
Michael to be arrested? (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1069179247021_78/?hub=CTVNewsAt11)
I dont like Michael Jackson's art. It is alleged that he is messing about with pre-pubescent kids. It would appear that he is a repeat offender.
I really would not mind to see him rot. [/b]
Take a look at those noses of his. You've already been watching him rot now for a long time.
On a more serious note, I fully agree with you.
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<img src="http://www.bloggerheads.com/star_wars/images/star_wars_crazybee_michael_jackson.jpg" alt=" - " />
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"One night Michael Jackson and I watched the EXORCIST (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjsearch2.html) together in Michael Jackson's bedroom. When the movie was over, I was scared. Michael Jackson suggested that I spend the night with him, which I did....."
Where were J. Chandler's mother back in 1993? Thank god the father won custody.
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Just witnessed on CNN:
Jermaine Jackson calls little brother Michael's arrest, quote, "A modern lynching."
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I know I shouldn't be surprised, but this is his mug shot.
<img src="http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/images/I1256-2003Nov20" alt=" - " />
He's, like, the most frightening human being I've ever seen!
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Just witnessed on CNN:
Jermaine Jackson calls little brother Michael's arrest, quote, "A modern lynching."
ain't it great how when ever something bad happens to micheal, an army of look alike spokes people appear on tv defending his honor...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Just witnessed on CNN:
Jermaine Jackson calls little brother Michael's arrest, quote, "A modern lynching."
ain't it great how when ever something bad happens to micheal, an army of look alike spokes people appear on tv defending his honor... [/b]
Yeah, don't you just hate it when the accused's family sticks up for him? But "look alike" is a low blow, Kosmo. Jermaine hasn't had anywhere near that much work done.
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Originally posted by Bagster:
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but this is his mug shot.
<img src="http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/images/I1256-2003Nov20" alt=" - " />
He's, like, the most frightening human being I've ever seen!
is IT really a human being? my god i'm going to see that THING chasing me in my nightmares tonight.
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Originally posted by Liberte:
Yeah, don't you just hate it when the accused's family sticks up for him? But "look alike" is a low blow, Kosmo. Jermaine hasn't had anywhere near that much work done.
i wonder how long it will take latoyna to come out of the woodwork... and didn't the father have some "work" done as well? and how one never hears from janet, rebbie or the other four jackson brothers. i guess their the "sensible" ones.
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
Originally posted by Bagster:
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but this is his mug shot.
<img src="http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/images/I1256-2003Nov20" alt=" - " />
He's, like, the most frightening human being I've ever seen!
is IT really a human being? my god i'm going to see that THING chasing me in my nightmares tonight. [/b]
Really. Even if Jacko could be proven completely innocent of any physical sexual abuse whatever (okay, seems like a longshot, but let's go with the presumption of innocence thing for a moment), and were guaranteed not to be capable of any hanky-panky (by physical restraints if necessary), what parents in their RIGHT FREAKING MINDS would subject their child to a night in proximity to that horror? Whether Jacko walks or gets the slammer, the adults responsible for the alleged victim should be sentenced to remedial courses at parenting school.
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The alleged victim's a cancer-survivor, BTW.
The lynching comment is troubling in that Jacko will try to deflect the charges by decrying racial injustice, thus turning the trial into another OJ-style circus. Jacko's just released a protest song in which he calls the prosecutor "a cold man". Will we hear testimony of the alleged victim describing in minute lurid detail the anatomy of Jacko's, ahem, male member, and it's alleged splotchiness due to a wicked case of vitiglio doubtless brought on by the king of pop's many years of chemical peels? Can smooth, reptilian mouthpiece Johnnie Cochran, with his African-tribal neckties, be far behind bustin' rhymes, "Michael Jackson's no perv, let justice be serv-ed!"
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To be honest, I can only imagine Jacko looking like a Ken doll down there. UGH!!!! The guy gives me the creeps no matter what gender/race/species he thinks he is.
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Here's a nugget from rollingstone.com:
"The raid came on the same day that Jackson's Number Ones greatest hits album was released. The collection features the new song "One More Chance," written by R. Kelly. "
another link (http://anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html)
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Will we hear testimony of the alleged victim describing in minute lurid detail the anatomy of Jacko's, ahem, male member, and it's alleged splotchiness due to a wicked case of vitiglio doubtless brought on by the king of pop's many years of chemical peels?
Holy shit, you mean the forty policemen with the search warrant at Neverland were looking for--gulp--has the surgery fetish gone that far?
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"...
- ne person who is shitting even more bricks than Michael Jackson:
Fat ass [...] slob Debbie Rowe.
She's mortified those two kids she gave birth to for Jacko will be given to her when MJ goes up the river. She thought she was home free, with all the millions Jackson gave her for enduring 2 pregnancies with these Rosemary's Baby-type fetuses. . .now she may be shackled to them for the next decade or so. . .how will she be able to enjoy her ill-gotten gain with those 2 little Jacksons scampering around her 24 hours a day?"
quote (http://www.jimgoad.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=news;action=display;num=1069185843)
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<img src="http://www.jokesandhumor.com/jokes/pictures/jackson.jpg" alt=" - " />
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What's black and comes in little white cans?
Michael Jackson.
Elton John just re-released an old song of his to help Michael pay his legal fees..."Don't let your son go down on me"
What's the difference between Michael Jackson and a grocery bag?
One is made of plastic and dangerous for little children to be around, and the other one you use to put your groceries in.
What's the difference between Neil Armstrong and Michael Jackson?
One walked on the moon....and the other one sodomizes little boys.
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<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~lelandgaunt/mjs.jpg" alt=" - " /> Rawk on (http://www.hooloovoo.com/feldman/music.html) ! (RealAudio required)
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Jacko launches spiffy website to refute charges !!! (http://www.MJnews.us)
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Jackson Toons (http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/JacksonArrested/main.asp)
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Is it just me or does anyone else see a resemblance?
<img src="http://www.moviefans.de/a-z/c/cat-in-the-hat/cat.jpg" alt=" - " />
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This website almost makes it sound like a holiday in Brit gaol (http://www.cjsonline.org/virtual/prisons/launch_prisons.html) ! (NOTE: Skip Site Guide)
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
This website almost makes it sound like a holiday in Brit gaol (http://www.cjsonline.org/virtual/prisons/launch_prisons.html) ! (NOTE: Skip Site Guide)
I think the Brit prisons are more luxurious than American ones.
BTW...What's the difference between a "GAOL" and "JAIL"?
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<img src="http://216.40.250.77/public_html/Binnes/01122003/images/michael_jackson_on_the_run.jpg" alt=" - " />
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i wonder what kid he felt for the bike....
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<img src="http://216.40.250.77/public_html/Binnes/02122003/images/f17.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Jack launches yet another website (http://www.jrnews.us/) to deflect shit-storm
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<img src="http://www.eleet.demon.co.uk/b3ta/jacko.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://images.indistinct.co.uk/b3ta/santa_jacko.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
:eek:
That would put an end to Christmas!
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<img src="http://venus.walagata.com/w/mustaqila/fincard.jpg" alt=" - " />
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image (http://imgsrv.fun4fun.com/public_html/Binnes/18122003/images/f149.jpg)
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Escape From Neverland (http://www.zooass.com/games/neverland/neverland.shtml) (flash game)
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Escape From Neverland (http://www.zooass.com/games/neverland/neverland.shtml) (flash game)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
That was funny, especially when you lose!
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<img src="http://www.badhorsey.net/gallery/gaz2.gif" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.gravy.co.uk/shite/glitter.gif" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/santa-please-stop.jpg" alt=" - " />
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<img src="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jo.com/mjpampers01.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0PQAAAEAS2y!G2MipIdNQ9ryY8T1LuoyeaHVY76lM8EbddgQo3WPFYUWZkypW0KQmR!qHxQZo8Mijr1cY3zn!kOvJ602oGaRW/olay.jpg?dc=4675455829642180551" alt=" - " />