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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bags on March 03, 2006, 11:09:00 am
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What the hell, let's start a new thread.
- If you're going, meet in Back Bar after the show for a drink or two? (Will they let us stay downstairs when there's another show afterwards? If not, we can head to DC9...)
- Anyone know anything about The Shys?
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They're on Letterman (http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/show_info/index.shtml) tonight, along with Ricky Gervais.
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I'll be there. I've been looking forward to this show for months, mostly because it's my first 9:30 Club show of the year (actually, my first 9:30 Club show since the Death Cab show in late October 2005; I've been going into withdrawal), but also because "Rock and Roll Queen" is a killer track that I added to my favorites play list the first time I heard it. I'd certainly like to hang out after the show as well, either Back Bar or DC9.
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Ever listen to the lyrics?
You are the sun,
You are the only one,
My heart is blue,
My heart is blue for you
Be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen
be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen
You are the sun,
You are the only one,
You are so cool,
You are so rock & roll
Be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen
Be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen
Be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen
Be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen
You are the sun,
You are the only one,
You are so cool,
You are so rock & roll
Be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen
Be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen
Be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen
Be my, be my, be my little rock & roll queen.
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what's your point, han? so the lyrics are simple. who cares? it's a great song.
i'll be at the show...and i believe kurosawa will, too...
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lyrics can be sticking point with me, but have seen the lyrics to "New Day Rising" one of Husker Du's best and the Beatles had some "silly" lyrics in their early days. "Baby You Drive My Car" Presentation has a lot to do with it as well, does it have a catchy hook, doesn't involve some guy screaming or thinking they are funk artist, etc
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Hey, I love songs with good lyrics as much as anyone, but you don't need to have good lyrics in order to have a good song. There's more to songcraft than lyrics, not the least of which is that intangible quality of performance. And I think "Rock and Roll Queen" is very well performed. Also, in principal, I do not believe lyrics should be judged outside of the context of the music.
I'm not saying the Subways are going to change the face or music or anything. They're just fun to listen to. You're welcome to your opinion.
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I can't remember at the moment which tunes on "New Day Rising" are Grant Hart's, but all the cheezy lyrics on "Flip Your Wig" I contributed to him. I place a lot of stock in lyrics too, but sometimes, you've got to feign ignorance.
I was thinking of going to the subways show too. I'm not well versed in their work (no pun intended, but its $10 and will be over early.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
lyrics can be sticking point with me, but have seen the lyrics to "New Day Rising" one of Husker Du's best
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the lyrics to NDR are the song title on repeat
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anyone?
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I take your point. I didn't realize your were talking Track 1 specific.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
the lyrics to NDR are the song title on repeat
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Originally posted by The Artist Formerly Known As grotty:
anyone?
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guess these means i need to a little cd burning tonight...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by The Artist Formerly Known As grotty:
anyone?
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guess these means i need to a little cd burning tonight... [/b]
I won't be there KV-
I sent them down to a friend (who is still going.)
I was planning on a double shot of BG & Subways - but...alas...cannot make the trip.
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I'll probably be there.
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
"Rock and Roll Queen" is a killer track that I added to my favorites play list the first time I heard it.
I've always kinda thought the opposite - I like that track, but I think it's my least favorite on the album. This should be a fun show.
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I am thinking about it.
Not a sellout right? 'Cause I just plan to meander down...
Sometimes they will let you stay downstairs...If there's a line for the bathroom you best hold it. (NO going upstairs)
I'm not big on DC9 but I'd hang for a few at the club before / after.
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Originally posted by El Sugartastic:
Not a sellout right? 'Cause I just plan to meander down...
Nevermind...have my answer: Eddie's answer as of 3/2 (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=002705)
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Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers...
I thought the song was kinda catchy when I first heard it, but then realized that there were no lyrics. Now the song just annoys me. But hey, it's just my opinion!
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I'll be at the show. Should be fun.
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We will be there. Coming up from Richmond as usual. This will be our 4th trip to the club in about 10 days! Is it officially time for us to move to DC? :)
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I LOVE the song, and the other that they've posted to the Podsafe Music Network (http://music.podshow.com) "I want to hear what you've got to say".
Featured both on my podcast tonight, Get Jacked! (http://getjacked.hanamas.com)
I'm going, even though I'm old and haven't been to a club in years. $10 for a 3 piece band that ROCKS is a small price to pay. heck the Stones were $400. I did not go. And my license plate says "SHALUBY".
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You arent old. Hell I passed 50 last year and I am not even close to old.
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Originally posted by Bags:
What the hell, let's start a new thread.
- If you're going, meet in Back Bar after the show for a drink or two? (Will they let us stay downstairs when there's another show afterwards? If not, we can head to DC9...)
- Anyone know anything about The Shys?
Um, next time we're hanging at a show that Betty's going to be at. Promise? And I'll leave before y'all start drinking :)
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Um, next time we're hanging at a show that Betty's going to be at. Promise? And I'll leave before y'all start drinking :)
Betty, you can watch me drink. Really, I have no problem with that -- lots of people do it. ;)
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Y'all be sure to come up and say hello. I'll be the long hair old fuck upstairs. Normally Kim and I end up at the center two bar stools right above the VIP section. Betty I'll hang with ya and drinks cokes!
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no, but i'm not coming tomorrow...i have a paper to write!
so, i meant, the next time a lot of us are going to a show and i'm going to be there, we have to hang out. because, i'm truthfully kind of bummed that i'm missing this.
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Paper scmaper, you can write after the show!
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Turns out I can't hang after the show -- friend in from New Mexico, gotta meet the gang after dinner.
But, I'll be there for the show....
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who is going to help betty with her paper now...
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Family showed up unexpectedly & no sleep, but I think I'm getting away anyway...If I show up and anyone is interested in buying my CYHSY ticket, I'll have it with me.
betty - it's Sat. reap your youth!
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we are going to have to reap my youth on some other Saturday...
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Well, I'm a bit perturbed.
On the Main page, it says "Subways, 7:30"
I get there about 8:15, and it's already over. So I'm out $10 for parking, and saw nothing. I heard the last notes of "Rock and Roll Queen" while I walked up. Being that Doors for the next show aren't till 10...WTF?
I guess I just don't know the SOP for the place. And never will.
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Originally posted by Get Jacked Podcast:
Well, I'm a bit perturbed.
On the Main page, it says "Subways, 7:30"
I get there about 8:15, and it's already over. So I'm out $10 for parking, and saw nothing. I heard the last notes of "Rock and Roll Queen" while I walked up. Being that Doors for the next show aren't till 10...WTF?
I guess I just don't know the SOP for the place. And never will.
For those nights when there's an early and a late show, the settimes are the settimes because they have to gear up for the next show. It's kind of hard to be pissed at a band for going on at the time they are supposed to. Plus, we're talking about a band with one record out. How long are they supposed to play?
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SOP is that we generally try to get bands on at the time listed on the website.
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Originally posted by Get Jacked Podcast:
Well, I'm a bit perturbed.
On the Main page, it says "Subways, 7:30"
I get there about 8:15, and it's already over. So I'm out $10 for parking, and saw nothing. I heard the last notes of "Rock and Roll Queen" while I walked up. Being that Doors for the next show aren't till 10...WTF?
I guess I just don't know the SOP for the place. And never will.
I'm confused. Why spend money on parking to arrive so late? The site said the band was starting at 7:30pm and you got there at 8:15pm. For a band that's teenagers with one album. What did you think you'd get to see with an 8:15pm arrival?
There may be things to complain about in general about the Club, but set times are definitely not one of them. It's actually one of the things I love about it: bands start when they say they're going to start, with a few exceptions most likely due to tempermental/junkie/silly artists.
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what a pleasant surprise tonight's show was. heard a lot of hype over this band while in france/england, but never listened to their music. i decided to give it a go at the last minute and it was probably the best time i couldve had for $10 outside of buying a cheap bottle of vodka, a lot of imagination, and a few regrets the next morning. lots of energy and a cute bunch to boot. also, the shys were very good too...good entertainment music all in all.
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The crowd was so anemic that I had a hard time getting into the concert. The pre-encore applause was the worst I can recall at a concert in a long time. I think I was the only one even applauding within 25 feet of where I was standing. I actually thought they might not come back on stage due to the anemic response. I think the vast majority of those attending had only heard "Rock and Roll Queen". I really wish I had arrived earlier so I could have been closer to the stage. That would have helped, I think. That said, they played with a lot of energy and seemed to be enjoying themselves. That was good to see. The show was really short, but it was only $10, so I guess I got my money's worth. A good warm-up for the March/April concert-going season.
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when has the crowd at 930 ever been non-anemic? prob never, though i did see that it was particularly worse-than-average in the back on ground floor and on the upper level (which i was on), esp for such a big turnout. sometimes it's a total buzzkill but i try not to sweat it. the subways performed with just enough energy to overcome the lack of it in the crowd. heavy mainstream british rivalry btwn arctic monkeys and the subways. right now id have to say i prefer the latter (for no reason other than the fact that i saw them live) cause i havent seen the former perform, nor do i get the hype behind their music purely. it's somewhere btwn ok and pants. also, rock & roll queen is not their best song. it was aiiight at best.
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from my vantage point in the DJ booth it did appear that energy was lower for the type of show it was. kinda of like the white stripes at the smith center a few weeks back where it was younger crowd going their first concerts not quite sure what to do. i will say that a half hour after the show the band was still chatting and taking pictures with fans in the bobby and selling merchandise. clearily a meet the band and run home and post about it on myspace crowd...
the shys were ok, had the look and the sound, but were missing the attitude/swagger... kinda like the pat boone of the "rock" revial.
d setlist later this afternoon.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
d setlist later this afternoon.
Was that a Brainiac song in there, between the Shys and Subways? A couple after the Stooges' Down on the Street, which was a great song to hear.
I liked both bands a lot. The Shys seemed pretty polished with the look, the songs and the frontman. Their name sucks though. The Subways were really good too. Great night for $10, and I was psyched that I was home in time to put the kid to bed. God I'm old.
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I saw this band on Letterman and they were really, really, teally bad.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
from my vantage point in the DJ booth it did appear that energy was lower for the type of show it was. kinda of like the white stripes at the smith center a few weeks back where it was younger crowd going their first concerts not quite sure what to do. i will say that a half hour after the show the band was still chatting and taking pictures with fans in the bobby and selling merchandise. clearily a meet the band and run home and post about it on myspace crowd...
the shys were ok, had the look and the sound, but were missing the attitude/swagger... kinda like the pat boone of the "rock" revial.
d setlist later this afternoon.
Kosmo, i'll have you know that i was at that Stripes show with friends, and we were all dancing! but the crowds here are horrible. sometimes i'll be in the only bunch dancing, and sometimes i don't feel like being the only bunch dancing--that can be kind of obnoxious, you know? but the fact of the matter is that you shouldn't HAVE to be the one little group or whatever at a show that is actually having fun. and that, it sucks when you see a really great live band and the show ends up totally stinking because the crowd is just balls. no matter what your vibe is, if everyone else is standing rigidly texting their friends throughout, it can die pretty quickly.
other then that Electric Six show recently (where practically everyone was dancing) i have been coming home from shows feeling completely empty in the last few months. you can go out and see your favorite band in the entire world, but if no one else is having fun, it's almost not worth it.
(unless you're a huge nerd like i am and go anyway)
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you can go out and see your favorite band in the entire world, but if no one else is having fun, it's almost not worth it.
So everyone who doesn't dance and go beserk isn't having a good time? I would disagree with that. Sure, it's lame if someone is talking loudly the whole time, or constantly taking photos or texting. But just because some members of the crowd aren't pogoing doesn't mean they are not having fun.
I'm on my feet all day every day, and I usually go running or biking before a show, which itself usually involves anywhere between 3 and 5 hours of standing. I'm there to hear and see a band, so the teenie-boppers will have to forgive me if I, and others, choose not to hop all over the place.
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no, that's not what i meant. i meant people being rude and talking the whole time. having a good time can be expressed sometimes by dancing, but it doesn't always have to be.
and, call me a teenybopper once more and i'll castrate you.
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Teenybopper.
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chop chop
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first old age has sent twas the white stripes show a few Years back..
i don't think dancing is required as show of energy, maybe it's more of being completely dumbstruck by getting to see a concert that leaves some EMOtionless.
no brainiac, didn't want to scary the TEENYBOPPERS to much and i only had a hour to work with, so it might have been the Fleshtones..
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I would have liked to have seen the show but it was way too early for me. In fact, I was in town which made me consider going even more but I wasn't logging off and billing my time until The Subways were walking off the stage.
Oh, well. Another good show lost to the Fates.
For the most part, early shows are just not doable for me.
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Fun show. Lead guy had a nice voice. Good energy, and that female bass player had great rock hair. Lot of really young kids in attendance. I think a junior high class field trip walked by me.
This was my first early show and it was definitely a change of pace. We were out of there by 8:30. Weird. I wonder if the club only schedules early shows when the bands are young and aren't expected to have hours of material. I'm also curious what impact a double show has on revenues. Do two separate crowds tend to drink more than one single crowd?
Speaking of revenues, let's hear it for those $6 beers. I think my days of drinking at the club are about over. Good thing I live close.
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Dancing isn't required to show you appreciate a performance. However, it would seem to me that if people were having a good time that they could at least applaud, especially before the encore or at the end of the show, if not between every song. Like I said, I was the only one applauding in the vicinity of where I was standing. That just seemed ridiculous to me. Either they were too cool or they just weren't into it. I don't know. The crowd around me didn't even come alive until they played "Rock and Roll Queen". I'm certainly not going to blame the Subways, who put on a very good show.
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
I was the only one applauding in the vicinity of where I was standing. That just seemed ridiculous to me. Either they were too cool or they just weren't into it.
that's what i meant!!
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Oh, they did a video shoot for the local access show "Pancake Mountain" so there should be two songs from them on that kids show. Fun bands.
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I can't understand all the complaints about the crowd -- I'm pretty sure both the Shys and the Subways said we were the best audience ever.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
I can't understand all the complaints about the crowd -- I'm pretty sure both the Shys and the Subways said we were the best audience ever.
DC seems to have that effect on lots of bands....
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
from my vantage point in the DJ booth it did appear that energy was lower for the type of show it was.
I have a theory on this 'lack of energy' -- I think the Saturday night, $10 early show that wasn't going to sell out is what's going on here. I know for me, I sent out an email on Friday that this show wasn't selling out, set times were early so you could do something afterwards, blah blah, and I ended up having 8 friends decide basically last minute to "check them out." So sure, a lot of folks only knew "Rock n Roll Queen." And I think that's okay, maybe they made some fans. But I'm assuming these kind of factors made for a more "pensive" than in to it crowd for a band like this.
I enjoyed the show -- they put a lot of energy out there, and do what they do just fine. I always expected a 45-50 minute show. It delivered, and I got a good night at DC9 for the shank of the evening.
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maybe it's just me... but did anyone who's meet markie think based on the accent that his little bro was the one rockin' out on stage..
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so, if tickets were $1.05, would it be worth it? that's how much tickets will be for the show out here in san francisco.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by The Artist Formerly Known As grotty:
anyone?
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guess these means i need to a little cd burning tonight... [/b]
When I click the link I get "You have requested a topic that does not exist!" Talk about yr Cartesian conundrums.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
so, if tickets were $1.05, would it be worth it? that's how much tickets will be for the show out here in san francisco.
Absolutely. I thought they were worth $10.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
so, if tickets were $1.05, would it be worth it?
What would you do
If you were asked to give up your dreams for freedom
What would you do
If asked to make the ultimate sacrifice
Would you think about all them people
Who gave up everything they had.
Would you think about all them War Vets
And would you start to feel bad
Freedom isn't free
It costs folks like you and me
And if we don't all chip in
We'll never pay that bill
Freedom isn't free
No, there's a hefty fuckin' fee.
And if you don't throw in your buck 'o five
Who will?
What would you do
If someone told you to fight for freedom.
Would you answer the call
Or run away like a little pussy
'Cause the only reason that you're here.
Is 'cause folks died for you in the past
So maybe now it's your turn
To die kicking some ass
Freedom isn't free
It costs folks like you and me
And if we don't all chip in
We'll never pay that bill
Freedom isn't free
Now there's a have to hook'in fee
And if you don't throw in your buck 'o five
Who will?
You don't throw in your buck 'o five. Who will?
Oooh buck 'o five
Freedom costs a buck 'o five
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
so, if tickets were $1.05, would it be worth it? that's how much tickets will be for the show out here in san francisco.
On the 27th right? We still going to that? Samckette will be gone, and you know how I like teenyboppers like Betty.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
so, if tickets were $1.05, would it be worth it? that's how much tickets will be for the show out here in san francisco.
On the 27th right? We still going to that? Samckette will be gone, and you know how I like teenyboppers like Betty. [/b]
well, it's either that. . or we shell out the cabbage to see either flaming lips or elvis costello. . .
whoops, flaming lips is sold out. . opening night of noise pop festival. . .
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I have that Rock and Roll Queen song stuck in my head. Heard it too many times over the weekend, but it is quite catchy.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
so, if tickets were $1.05, would it be worth it? that's how much tickets will be for the show out here in san francisco.
Absolutely. I thought they were worth $10. [/b]
Ditto
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getting a little creepy, are we?
I hope you are all planning on going to see either Simon Dawes or the Bonapartes on the 28th. or both.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
getting a little creepy, are we?
I hope you are all planning on going to see either Simon Dawes or the Bonapartes on the 28th. or both.
Can't speak for Bags but Kurosawa and I are going to see Dead Heart Bloom at Iota that night. That's Boris Skalsky's new band, from Phaser. Their DC debute show. Can't wait for that!
Sorry it's a 21+ venue, Betty. Hopefully, you will get to see them sometime soon. ;)