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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Relaxer on December 05, 2005, 12:24:00 pm
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The end of the year issue is coming out next week. Any speculation on which album will get the coveted #1 slot? I spend entirely too much time wondering what it might be, but it's an annual ritual. .
A couple months ago, I would've argued that Kaiser Chiefs would've gotten it, but it seems like their star might be fading somewhat. They seem to love Franz's new album, but I can't imagine them giving it to the same band two years in a row. They loved Hard-Fi, Maximo Park and Antony, but those seem too new. If Arctic Monkeys had an album out, I'm sure they'd get it since NME is so impressed with how these guys came on (and I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to think out of the box and name the downloaded album as #1).
The last couple years I've been able to pick it without too much problem, since it wasn't too tough to figure out that Franz, the White Stripes "Elephant" and the Strokes debut would get it. Was surprised that Coldplay got it for Rush of Blood, and noone could've predicted Queens of the Stone Age in 2000.
Anyway, that's a lot of rambling. What will NME pick as #1? My guess is still going to be Kaiser Chiefs, though I wouldn't be surprised to see Arcade Fire, Kasabian or Franz get it.
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There's some mild controversy (http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,,1656637,00.html) over the compilation of this year's list. Don't read the article if you want to guess the top pick first. (Article gives away #1 and #2.) I don't know why it's news. I thought everyone already knew those NME lists were subject to other interests/choices. They are still entertaining, though.
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The album that this song (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2120659111755287021&q=chacarron) is on. It's a sure thing.
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Bloc Party?
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Originally posted by Mobius:
Bloc Party?
Oh yeah, I forgot about them. The singer has been kind of a knob in interviews though, and it seemed like the staff had kind of turned against them. I swear, when those guys dislike someone (Placebo, Stereophonics), they are brutal. But Silent Alarm did get a lot of acclaim, they made a good enough splash over here, and NME likes their style.
And kurosawa, I'm going to try and hold off on reading that article, even though I'm totally itching to.
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bloc party, babyshambles, or the kills. i predict.
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Ta da!
NME Best of 2005 announced
50 Test Icicles - For Screening Purposes Only
49 Dead Meadow - Feathers
48 Ladytron - The Witching Hour
47 Sleater-Kinney- The Woods
46 The Duke Spirit- Cuts Across The Land
45 Shout Out Louds- Howl Howl Gaff Gaff
44 Field Music - Field Music
43 The Engineers- The Engineers
42 Sigur Ros - Takk
41 Nine Black Alps - Everything Is
40 The Brakes - The Brakes
39 Vitalic - OK Cowboy
38 Autolux - Future Perfect
37 Circulus - Lick On The Tip Of An Envelope
36 The Bravery - The Bravery
35 Elbow - Leaders Of The Free World
34 Rufus Wainwright - Want Two
33 We Are Scientists - With Love and Squalor
32 Queens Of The Stone Age - Lullabies To Paralyze
31 Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake It's Morning
30 Doves - Some Cities
29 Madonna - Confessions on A Dance Floor
28 Absentee - Donkey Stock
27 Kate Bush - Aerial
26 Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft
25 MIA - Arular
24 Oasis - Don't Believe The Truth
23 Hard-Fi - Stars of CCTV
22 Raveonettes - Pretty In Black
21 LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem
20 Editors - The Back Room
19 Coldplay - X&Y
18 Art Brut - Bang, Bang Rock 'n' Roll
17 The Magic Numbers - The Magic Numbers
16 British Sea Power - Open Season
15 Maximo Park - A Certain Trigger
14 Dungen - Ta Det Lungt
13 The Rakes - Capture/Release
12 Devendra Banhart - Cripple Crow
11 The Cribs - The New Fellas
10 Gorillaz - Demon Days
9 Babyshambles - Down In Albion
8 Kanye West - Late Registration
7 Sufjan Stevens - Illinoise
6 The White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan
5 Kaiser Chiefs - Employment
4 Antony & The Johnsons - I Am A Bird Now
3 Franz Ferdinand - You Can Have It So Much Better
2 Arcade Fire - Funeral
1 Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
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I can't believe Shout Out Louds didn't make that list.
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Originally posted by mrpee:
Ta da!
NME Best of 2005 announced
45 Shout Out Louds- Howl Howl Gaff Gaff
;)
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Oops missed it, guess I was expecting to see them further up on the list.
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wasn't arcade fire a 2004 release? are they going by UK release dates?
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
wasn't arcade fire a 2004 release? are they going by UK release dates?
Being a UK publication, yes that's what they're going on.
Am surprised that they didn't include Wrens' Meadowlands, as they've been creaming over that one lately (another one that was just released over there). And they should've included My Morning Jacket's new one.
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Bloc Party very deserving....
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
I can't believe Death From Above 1979 didn't make that list.
me too. :(
It was good to see Kate Bush's new album make the list, as well as We are Scientists and Antony & the Johnsons (who really are as good as everybody says they are).
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Being a UK publication, yes that's what they're going on.
ohhhh! NME is from the UK!? thanks for clearing that up
i thought US pubs went by original release dates (especially for UK albums) for their year-end list
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> 8 Kanye West - Late Registration
It seems kind of weird to me that this made their list.
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
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Originally posted by Medusa:
> 8 Kanye West - Late Registration
It seems kind of weird to me that this made their list.
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
Why is that?
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Originally posted by Medusa:
8 Kanye West - Late Registration
It seems kind of weird to me that this made their list.
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
They've been in love with Kanye ever since he made his controversial statements.
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Q Magazine
1 Coldplay - X&Y
2 Gorillaz - Demon Days
3 Kaiser Chiefs - Employment
4 Oasis - Don't Believe The Truth
5 Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
6 James Blunt - Back To Bedlam
7 Franz Ferdinand - You Could Have It So Much Better
8 Arcade Fire - Funeral
9 KT Tunstall - Eye To The Telescope
10 Hard-Fi - Stars of CCTV
Uncut:
1 Funeral by Arcade Fire
2 Illinois by Sufjan Stevens
3 No Direction Home: The Soundtrack by Bob Dylan
4 Black Mountain by Black Mountain
5 Alligator by The National
6 A Bigger Bang by The Rolling Stones
7 LCD Soundsystem by LCD Soundsystem
8 Get Behind Me Satan by The White Stripes
9 You Could Have It So Much Better by Franz Ferdinand
10 Want Two by Rufus Wainwright
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Now I see where you guys got all got your personal top 10 lists from. You all read the same magazines and buy the same albums.
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They all use the same cologne, too.
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BTW, any 2005 top 50 list is meaningless without MMJ, Sinead, Ryan Adams, or Fiona Apple.
And how did Oasis even crack the top 100? That would be like a US reviewer thinking that the Black Crowes were still in the conversation.
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Originally posted by frenchpiece:
BTW, any 2005 top 50 list is meaningless without MMJ, Sinead, Ryan Adams, or Fiona Apple.
And how did Oasis even crack the top 100? That would be like a US reviewer thinking that the Black Crowes were still in the conversation.
Oasis is still a relevant album-releasing band, with singles that top the UK/European charts, whereas the Black Crowes are not. Plus, Oasis can still fill a 100,000 seat stadium, the Black Crowes could not.
I'm not a big fan of Oasis anymore, but the fact remains that their fanbase in UK and Europe remains rabid and enormous, and a lot of people really liked their latest record.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Plus, Oasis can still fill a 100,000 seat stadium, the Black Crowes could not.
Oasis can fill a 100,000 seat stadium in Europe, but not here. It took weeks for their Madison Square Garden show to sell out. Meanwhile, the Crowes sold out 7 nights at the Hammerstein Ballroom and their NYE show at MSG in a few days.
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Originally posted by pickup hiccup stickup:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Plus, Oasis can still fill a 100,000 seat stadium, the Black Crowes could not.
Oasis can fill a 100,000 seat stadium in Europe, but not here. It took weeks for their Madison Square Garden show to sell out. Meanwhile, the Crowes sold out 7 nights at the Hammerstein Ballroom and their NYE show at MSG in a few days. [/b]
Are 100,000 people less impressive in Europe than in the States?
And according to what I read, Oasis' MSG show sold out in less than a day. That's considerably less than "weeks". Plus, a New Years Eve show is a bit more of an event than a regular show in June, which is what the Oasis show was. Would the Black Crowes sell it out in March?
And filling the 3,0000-seat Hammerstein for 7 days is impressive. Of course, the Arctic Monkeys just sold out a 2,000-head venue (in Europe), and that was with only one single out. So it's all relative.
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Just because Oasis sold out a 100,000 person venue in Europe doesn't make them relevant. That would mean that despite all of the crap that Metallica and DMB have been putting out for the past ten years, their ticket sales would overshadow their disappointing recent output.
The new Oasis album was not good. They haven't had even a "good" album since Morning Glory. You could take a dump on acetate and the Brit press would swarm to it like flies. If they aren't careful, Pete Doherty's career might become the Brits' crowning acheivement of this decade.
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uh, yes.
Originally posted by Relaxer:
QUOTE]Are 100,000 people less impressive in Europe than in the States?
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I'm a little bothered by the frequency that the Arcade Fire is showing up on lists for this year - NME and otherwise, and not just in the UK. They got a Grammy nod for Funeral. What the hell? Are we just rewriting when this was released? It isn't even as though it was reissued this year on a major or something. It is still on Merge.
Oh, and I second the previous statement that Ryan Adams has to be included on any year end lists - both of his albums were among the best things I heard this year.
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Originally posted by frenchpiece:
Just because Oasis sold out a 100,000 person venue in Europe doesn't make them relevant. That would mean that despite all of the crap that Metallica and DMB have been putting out for the past ten years, their ticket sales would overshadow their disappointing recent output.
The new Oasis album was not good. They haven't had even a "good" album since Morning Glory. You could take a dump on acetate and the Brit press would swarm to it like flies. If they aren't careful, Pete Doherty's career might become the Brits' crowning acheivement of this decade.
It actually makes them very relevant. NME and Q are British mags not American. So it should not suprise anyone to see Oasis on the list. They are one of the biggest acts in the UK and Europe.
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Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
uh, yes.
Originally posted by Relaxer:
QUOTE]Are 100,000 people less impressive in Europe than in the States? [/b]
uh, no.
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So is Hasslehoff.
Originally posted by BLACKSTORM:
Originally posted by frenchpiece:
Just because Oasis sold out a 100,000 person venue in Europe doesn't make them relevant. That would mean that despite all of the crap that Metallica and DMB have been putting out for the past ten years, their ticket sales would overshadow their disappointing recent output.
The new Oasis album was not good. They haven't had even a "good" album since Morning Glory. You could take a dump on acetate and the Brit press would swarm to it like flies. If they aren't careful, Pete Doherty's career might become the Brits' crowning acheivement of this decade.
It actually makes them very relevant. NME and Q are British mags not American. So it should not suprise anyone to see Oasis on the list. They are one of the biggest acts in the UK and Europe. [/b]
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Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
So is Hasslehoff.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
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You're just jealous because I went to the same school as the Hoffmeister.
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Originally posted by Hanover Fiste:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
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You're just jealous because I went to the same school as the Hoffmeister. [/b]
Me too, yet different schools. Just think, if we played our cards right, we could have starred in Bay Watch. "Bay Watch: The Lost Episodes".
Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
Now I see where you guys got all got your personal top 10 lists from. You all read the same magazines and buy the same albums.
Not me. None of anyone's would have been on my list that I don't feel like bothering to make. In fact, probably the only person on this forum who might overlap with some of mine would be Friend Of Guy Chadwick. See Rhett, you're not the only outcast here. ;)
One of my tops, and maybe even my #1 slot would be:
Flavor Crystals - On Plastic
But I'm sure the NME have no clue who they are or feel they aren't showy enough.