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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: nkotb on December 08, 2005, 01:30:00 pm
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Just wondering what any of you Mac people think of Tiger. I don't use Macs that often, but I'll be using one at my new job, mostly for print layout and design. Any opinion on Tiger? I'd be upgrading from OS 9.2, so any suggestions would be welcome.
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the jump from OS9 to X is huge. OS9 software does not run natively in X.
X is so much nicer. 9 now looks ancient.
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there are people who still use 9?
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We'll be updating software as well during this process, since the prices are fairly reasonable. And I'm much more familiar with OS X than I am anything below that, but since we're making the jump, I figured we should go to the latest & greatest. I was just curious about the difference between Panther and Tiger.
There were a fair number of negative reviews of 10.4.3 on Apple's site, and I was wondering whether it was users whining about changes they were used to or if it was cause for alarm.
Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
the jump from OS9 to X is huge. OS9 software does not run natively in X.
X is so much nicer. 9 now looks ancient.
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From the amount of dust on this machine, I would say that no one here was even using 9.
Originally posted by pdx pollard:
there are people who still use 9?
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There was not much difference between Panther and tiger for me.
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The widgets can be useful but there's no real reason to make the switch. more concerned about OSX on Intel that will drop next year - or so it's said
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yeah, apple should designed OSX to be intel compatible from the start. I immagine there will be a lot of problems.
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Not only should you switch from 9 to OS X because the difference is insanely better, but I found that the more I discover in Tiger, the better it is than Panther. Much more automation capabilities, and Spotlight has changed the way I file stuff, as in, I no longer need a hundred different folders. It can search every file on you computer via keyword, including content in text docs and emails, and even find applications faster than navigating through the windows. Eventually every OS will use this type of features (ie MS Vista) but for now you can get it through Tiger.
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depending on what kind of print production you are doing, there will be so many problems from jumping from 9 to tiger. i had to install all new programs, updates and settings to get back to where i was. i love it, some things stillhave issues, but for the most parts its stable and smooth. the might mouse is the greatest thing, cant fig out why it took apple to make one.
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I was wondering about the jump from Panther to Tiger myself. I mean, my computer does everything I want it to now, is there really a compelling reason to switch?
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
I was wondering about the jump from Panther to Tiger myself. I mean, my computer does everything I want it to now, is there really a compelling reason to switch?
one reason would be for the mighty mouse
i think the widgets are nice, but some are overrated
i had a hard time getting my setting down when i switched
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the only thing I ever find compelling is speed, does it run faster? It seems new OSes are always slower, not faster, than their predecessors.
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its faster for me due to my (companies) new g5 with some jacked up ram and memory, so cant help you with that one.
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No speed difference discernible for me.
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
the only thing I ever find compelling is speed, does it run faster? It seems new OSes are always slower, not faster, than their predecessors.
that's so you can buy more RAM or better yet, faster computers. :)
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Thanks for the tips. Just one more question, though: When upgrading the old OS to Tiger, will I still have the option to keep 9.2 on the machine? I have more experience using Macs that were already set up as opposed to upgrading them myself, and I just want to be sure that any software that I haven't upgraded yet will still be able to run.
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I believe the answer is yes. If you do a clean install you ay have to re-install OS9. You should try and track down the last version of OS9 anyhow...
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I can't believe I'm participating in this geekfest, but doesn't OS-X offer the built in option of running a "Mac classic" environment, so you can still run your older software? Without having to have two OSes installed side by side.
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What else do you have to do on a Thursday afternoon?
Yeah, I did a little research, and it looks like Tiger still comes bundled with a Classic OS to run older software.
Thanks to everyone for chiming in. Now if I could just get them to pony up for the Adobe CS2 Suite...
Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
I can't believe I'm participating in this geekfest, but doesn't OS-X offer the built in option of running a "Mac classic" environment, so you can still run your older software? Without having to have two OSes installed side by side.
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
I can't believe I'm participating in this geekfest, but doesn't OS-X offer the built in option of running a "Mac classic" environment, so you can still run your older software? Without having to have two OSes installed side by side.
You no longer have the option to boot into os9. So you start up in X and then launch 9. It works OK, but it is much better to have osX apps.
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Quoth Database: "Duuuuh, this is the life we chose!"
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Last year I upgraded from Girlfriend 7.0 to Wife 1.0. I soon noticed that the new program began unexpected child processing that took up a lot of space and valuable resources. In addition, Wife 1.0 installed itself into all other programs and now monitors all other system activity. Applications such as Poker Night 10.3, Football 5.0, Hunting and Fishing 7.5, and Racing 3.6 I can't seem to keep Wife 1.0 in the background while attempting to run my favorite applications. I'm thinking about going back to Girlfriend 7.0, but the uninstall doesn't work on Wife 1.0. Please help!
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Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
I can't believe I'm participating in this geekfest, but doesn't OS-X offer the built in option of running a "Mac classic" environment, so you can still run your older software? Without having to have two OSes installed side by side.
You no longer have the option to boot into os9. So you start up in X and then launch 9. It works OK, but it is much better to have osX apps. [/b]
(I'm going to say this in street lingo so it sounds less nerdy.) I know, but what I'm sayin' is, if you gots ta be usin OS9 apps, you don't gotta be runnin two OSez side-by-side, yo.
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Originally posted by Hanover Fiste:
Last year I upgraded from Girlfriend 7.0 to Wife 1.0. I soon noticed that the new program began unexpected child processing that took up a lot of space and valuable resources. In addition, Wife 1.0 installed itself into all other programs and now monitors all other system activity. Applications such as Poker Night 10.3, Football 5.0, Hunting and Fishing 7.5, and Racing 3.6 I can't seem to keep Wife 1.0 in the background while attempting to run my favorite applications. I'm thinking about going back to Girlfriend 7.0, but the uninstall doesn't work on Wife 1.0. Please help!
You need to find a non-resident web based girlfriend java applet!
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Originally posted by Hanover Fiste:
Last year I upgraded from Girlfriend 7.0 to Wife 1.0. I soon noticed that the new program began unexpected child processing that took up a lot of space and valuable resources. In addition, Wife 1.0 installed itself into all other programs and now monitors all other system activity. Applications such as Poker Night 10.3, Football 5.0, Hunting and Fishing 7.5, and Racing 3.6 I can't seem to keep Wife 1.0 in the background while attempting to run my favorite applications. I'm thinking about going back to Girlfriend 7.0, but the uninstall doesn't work on Wife 1.0. Please help!
This is a very common problem men complain about but is mostly due to a primary misconception. Many people upgrade from Girlfriend 7.0 to Wife 1.0 with the idea that Wife 1.0 is merely a "UTILITIES & ENTERTAINMENT" program. Wife 1.0 is an OPERATING SYSTEM and designed by its creator to run everything.
WARNING: DO NOT TRY TO: un-install, delete, or purge the program from the system once installed. Trying to un-install Wife 1.0 can be disastrous. Doing so may destroy your hard and/or floppy drive. Trying to un-install or remove Wife 1.0 will destroy valuable system resources.
You can not go back to Girlfriend 7.0 because Wife 1.0 is not designed to do this. Some have tried to install Girlfriend 8.0 or Wife 2.0 but end up with more problems than the original system. Look in your manual under Warnings- Alimony/Child Support. Others have tried to run Girlfriend 7.0 in the background, while Wife 1.0 is running. Eventually Wife 1.0 detects Girlfriend 7.0 and a system conflict occurs, this can lead to a non-recoverable system crash. Some users have tried to download similar products such as Fling and 1NiteStand. Often their systems have become infected with a virus. I recommend you keep Wife 1.0 and just deal with the situation.
Having Wife 1.0 installed myself, I might also suggest you read the entire section regarding General Protection Faults (GPFs). You must assume all responsibility for faults and problems that might occur. The best course of action will be to push apologize button then reset button as soon as lock-up occurs. System will run smooth as long as you take the blame for all GPFs. Wife 1.0 is a great program but is very high maintenance.
Suggestions for improved operation of Wife 1.0
-Monthly use utilities such as TLC and FTD -Frequently use Communicator 5.0
-Tech Support
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
(I'm going to say this in street lingo so it sounds less nerdy.) I know, but what I'm sayin' is, if you gots ta be usin OS9 apps, you don't gotta be runnin two OSez side-by-side, yo. [/b][/QUOTE]
You are an idiot. Os9 environment has to run under OsX. Not side by side, but still both running at the same time, fool.
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Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
You are an idiot. Os9 environment has to run under OsX. Not side by side, but still both running at the same time, fool.
Yo, shizzat-haid, you just try coming over here and talkin like that and I'll CAP you something fierce! I be knowin dat it's runnin' under OSX, but it's still not da same as installin two dang-fool operatin' systems all side-by-side like you was sayin he should do. So sit on that, biatch!
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Apparently, Doctor Doom is the accounts receivable supervisor over at Midstate Office Supply.
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i have tiger,
no classic, and no option to keep it.
which was the casue of so many of my problems.
problem #2
im in the progress of upgrading my gf
to a better less complaining one.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Apparently, Doctor Doom is the accounts receivable supervisor over at Midstate Office Supply.
<img src="http://www.midstateoffice.com/images/htk.jpg" alt=" - " />
H-Dog!!!!
have you seen midstate's website (http://www.midstateoffice.com)?
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Originally posted by definitivedoodle:
i have tiger,
no classic, and no option to keep it.
which was the casue of so many of my problems.
classic (OS9) still works under tiger.
Dr Doom, you have to install 2 Operating systems, classic (OS9) reuns under OSX, are you really retarded?
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Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
.........yo. [/b]
You are an idiot. Os9 environment has to run under OsX. Not side by side, but still both running at the same time, fool. [/b][/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
Dr Doom, you have to install 2 Operating systems, classic (OS9) reuns under OSX, are you really retarded?
Wow. You're engaging in name-calling in a discussion about operating systems. That says everything that needs to be said about you. <img src="http://madthiu.weblogs.us/emot/=laugh4.gif" alt=" - " />
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Wow! You are profound. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentally_retarded)
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You are a guy who gets upset and calls people names while discussing operating systems. Nothing profound about that!
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It is just frustrating because you are consistently wrong.
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Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
It is just frustrating because you are consistently wrong.
Now that you've calmed down a bit, my point was that OS9 is bundled with OSX. I have a Mac with OSX and the OS9 environment is already there if you need it. Since I haven't actually installed it -- it came like that -- I could be wrong in saying that you don't need to install them separately.
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
I could be wrong in saying that you don't need to install them separately.
As always you are wrong. They come on different discs and are installed seperately.
Your classic environment is probably the old version of Os9 you had on your computer before you upgraded to OsX.
For NKOTB, if he is upgrading to 10, he should make sure he has 9.2.2 installed. It operates better in X.
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I sure do. Sounds like I'll be all set, more or less.
By the way, I was going to see if you wanted to get lunch last week, but then I got wind of your little accident. It's ashamed, too; that was my last week in Bethesda. I've move onto bigger, better and closer things.
Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
For NKOTB, if he is upgrading to 10, he should make sure he has 9.2.2 installed. It operates better in X.
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I'll let you off, i am not in Bethesda anymore either.....
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Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
I could be wrong in saying that you don't need to install them separately.
As always you are wrong. [/b]
For the third time, I have to point out to you that you are getting personal ABOUT A COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM! I mean, jeez dood! Take a chill pill! I tried to be conciliatory, and you're still acting like a dick, like this is something personal for you. About an OS!!!
FYI, my Mac is less than a year old, and came with OSX Panther on it, and from the day it came out of the box, it had the capacity to run OS9, or "Mac Classic" as they call it. I did not have to install anything extra.
More importantly, it's lame that this conversation has gone on for two pages, especially on a music forum. I'm not posting on this topic again. I'll give you the final say if you want it, hopefully to call me an "idiot" or "retard" or "always wrong" again.
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Southside is Rupert.
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Whoa... cross-board slagging... that's not allowed!
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
For the third time, I have to point out to you that you are getting personal ABOUT A COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM! I mean, jeez dood! Take a chill pill! I tried to be conciliatory, and you're still acting like a dick, like this is something personal for you. About an OS!!!
FYI, my Mac is less than a year old, and came with OSX Panther on it, and from the day it came out of the box, it had the capacity to run OS9, or "Mac Classic" as they call it. I did not have to install anything extra.
WAA WAAA I AM A FUCKING BABY.
No, I am not getting personal about a computer operating system. That makes you wrong again. I am getting personal about you aways being wrong. Clearly you should resist posting advice when you don't have a clue.