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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 09, 2008, 01:46:00 pm
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Some of you may find this interesting. Certainly more interesting than reading a Radiohead thread.
http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/national-geographics-inside-straight-edge-thurston-moore/ (http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/national-geographics-inside-straight-edge-thurston-moore/)
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I think I read in the Post that this airs on the Nat Geo channel tonight.
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This whole thing is pretty humorous though. Sure there's violence somewhere in the subculture. But doesn't that go for all subcultures though?
I just find it funny how the media still trying to show being edge as a bad thing. I also find it humorous that Thurston Moore did the narration for this. Isn't he friends with Ian Mackaye? Besides, we all know that "straight edge" by Minor threat was a song, it wasn't intended to start a movement.
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It's interesting that Moore is involved. Hopefully, it's a sign that the reporting will be fairly balanced, unlike the corporate media that marginalize the entire movement by focusing only on the negative fringe. Liberal media my ass.
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These kids need a fucking drink or a blunt. Lighten up, guys!
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
It's interesting that Moore is involved. Hopefully, it's a sign that the reporting will be fairly balanced, unlike the corporate media that marginalize the entire movement by focusing only on the negative fringe. Liberal media my ass.
hilarious.
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
It's interesting that Moore is involved. Hopefully, it's a sign that the reporting will be fairly balanced, unlike the corporate media that marginalize the entire movement by focusing only on the negative fringe. Liberal media my ass.
my thoughts exactly.
i saw some clips online though earlier, it looks pretty decent. thurston would definitely not lend his voice to something that painted an unjustly negative picture of the movement.
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People forget how fucking YOUNG Ian and his buddies were! No wonder he's since distanced himself from it.
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Did anyone else watch this?
A lot of Thurston's narration had a Middle School "D.A.R.E." film strip tone to it and it seems to me that essentially this exact story was running on network news about 10 years ago. I guess I was surprised that it had such a "here's what your kids are up to" feeling when I figured it was an old story.
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i dont see whats so bad about drugs.
i mean, i think many people on here didnt do ENOUGH experimenting with drugs when they were younger.....charlie and brian wallace especially.
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Was Julian in this film? He says he's straight edge. And vegan. Does that make him "straight-vedge"?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Was Julian in this film? He says he's straight edge. And vegan. Does that make him "straight-vedge"?
I thought Jules was just veggie .. not vegan.
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He doesn't need booze or drugs to get his kicks. He's fine watching Sex and the City, wearing girl's jeans and scalping tickets to this favorite band's shows.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Was Julian in this film? He says he's straight edge. And vegan. Does that make him "straight-vedge"?
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Originally posted by nkotb:
He doesn't need booze or drugs to get his kicks. He's fine watching Sex and the City, wearing girl's jeans and scalping tickets to this favorite band's shows.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Was Julian in this film? He says he's straight edge. And vegan. Does that make him "straight-vedge"?
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I have about 15 minutes left of this on my tivo, and I already had a lot of issues with it.
As I had suspected before it even aired, they spent the entire time (aside from, oh, the first maybe five minutes) talking about edge gangs in Nevada and Utah. I understand that it is a documentary and it is television and they are going to focus on interesting things, but I felt the way they portrayed edge completely trivialized the whole thing. They didn't even make mention of Minor Threat until, like, 20 minutes unto the thing. Didn't talk about DC.
Instead, they focused on some jerkbag who stole from drug dealers and then beat the shit out of them. And they talked about that murder, and about some guy who broke up an alcoholic's beer bottle and then carved an X into some guy's back...I mean really, really violent stuff. I totally understand that it's out there, but the majority of people who are edge are not anything like that...the violence almost contradicts the whole purpose of abstaining from drugs and alcohol in the first place, you know? To spend almost an entire hour talking about all of that just really bugged me. And you would think Thurston wouldn't be up for that, either...
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i knew there was a reason i'd never been to Utah.
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nothing new here...
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i'm writing a paper on the history of the American temperance movement, some pretty interesting stuff
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straight edge = gaytarded
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We've missed you flawd. :)
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It just shows the sheep-like nature of people that a song penned by a bunch of teenagers reacting to conditions of their time, and an idea with some good elements to it, was turned into a "movement."
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
It just shows the sheep-like nature of people that a song penned by a bunch of teenagers reacting to conditions of their time, and an idea with some good elements to it, was turned into a "movement."
i think the movement requires you do a song with the words friends family and or forever in the the chorus each cd.
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Alice Cooper, Slash honored for work with addicts (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/12/AR2008041200329.html?hpid=entnews)
Reuters
Saturday, April 12, 2008; 2:13 AM
LOS ANGELES (Billboard) - After 26 years of sobriety, Alice Cooper has some advice to pass along to the younger generation: "I don't think you need to die for your art."
The shock-rocker will be honored for his work with fellow addicts during a May 9 benefit dinner and concert in Hollywood organized by the MusiCares MAP Fund, which provides members of the music community access to addiction recovery treatment.
"I've made myself very available to friends of mine," says Cooper, who will receive the Stevie Ray Vaughan Award. "They're people who would call me late at night and say, 'Between you and me, I've got a problem."'
MusiCares will also honor Velvet Revolver guitarist Slash for his dedication to the organization's mission and goals.
Cooper and Slash will perform at the alcohol-free event, at the Music Box at the Fonda theater, as will Cat Power, Blind Melon and all-star group Camp Freddy.