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Title: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on April 20, 2006, 01:55:00 pm
Top Screenplays (http://www.wga.org/subpage_newsevents.aspx?id=1807)
 
 Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: Sage 703 on April 20, 2006, 01:58:00 pm
I haven't looked at it yet, but everything Charlie Kaufman has ever done better be on this list...but especially Adaptation and Eternal Sunshine.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: BookerT on April 20, 2006, 02:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by callat703:
  I haven't looked at it yet, but everything Charlie Kaufman has ever done better be on this list...but especially Adaptation and Eternal Sunshine.
even human nature????
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: bellenseb on April 20, 2006, 02:56:00 pm
Noah Baumbach's Kicking & Screaming.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: Sage 703 on April 20, 2006, 03:06:00 pm
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Originally posted by BookerT:
   
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Originally posted by callat703:
  I haven't looked at it yet, but everything Charlie Kaufman has ever done better be on this list...but especially Adaptation and Eternal Sunshine.
even human nature???? [/b]
I haven't seen Human Nature, and actually wasn't aware it existed.  So...no.  Not that one.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: Shadrach on April 20, 2006, 04:26:00 pm
In my opinion this list sucks. It would be much better if it was broken down into original screenplays and adapted screenplays.
 
 Original screenplays should automatically rise to the top of the list. I'm not saying that anyone can adapt a screenplay, but most of the hard work has already been done; beginning, middle, end, plot, characters, character development and in many cases a built in audience who already care about the story.
 
 For example Fargo, number 32 on this list, in my opinion should be ranked higher than The Godfather, which comes in at number 2 on this list. Joel and Ethan Coen wrote the screenplay as a completely original work for Fargo. On the other hand Francis Ford Coppola had the existing novel and the help of Mario Puzo, who wrote The Godfather, to mold into a screenplay.
 
 You have to give credit to something that is 100% original.
 
 As a disclaimer I am not saying Fargo was a better film than The Godfather, quite the opposite. I'm just giving my opinion strictly based on screenplay.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: BookerT on April 20, 2006, 06:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by callat703:
   
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Originally posted by BookerT:
   
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Originally posted by callat703:
  I haven't looked at it yet, but everything Charlie Kaufman has ever done better be on this list...but especially Adaptation and Eternal Sunshine.
even human nature???? [/b]
I haven't seen Human Nature, and actually wasn't aware it existed.  So...no.  Not that one. [/b]
well if you've ever wanted to see patricia arquette covered head to toe in fake animal fur, this is the movie for you! let's just say that gondry and kaufman did a whole lot better with "eternal sunshine."
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: renton007 on April 21, 2006, 07:32:00 am
As a Woody Allen fan I'm glad to see he has 4 screenplays listed.  Although, I would put Manhattan over Annie Hall and replace Crimes and Misdemeanors with Stardust Memories or Interiors.  
 
 I'd add Lebowski, remove When Harry Met Sally (i.e. Annie Hall Part II),  and Streetcar should be in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: brennser on April 21, 2006, 09:00:00 am
No Glengarry Glen Ross??
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: thirsty moore on April 21, 2006, 09:07:00 am
Billy Wilder deserves all the props he gets on this list.  The AFI theater in Silver Spring has been showing Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard, and Some Like It Hot over the past month or so.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: ggw on April 21, 2006, 11:03:00 am
Film of the book: top 50 adaptations revealed (http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,1756384,00.html)
 
 1984
 Alice in Wonderland
 American Psycho
 Breakfast at Tiffany's
 Brighton Rock
 Catch 22
 Charlie & the Chocolate Factory
 A Clockwork Orange
 Close Range (inc Brokeback Mountain)
 The Day of the Triffids
 Devil in a Blue Dress
 Different Seasons (inc The Shawshank Redemption)
 Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (aka Bladerunner)
 Doctor Zhivago
 Empire of the Sun
 The English Patient
 Fight Club
 The French Lieutenant's Woman
 Get Shorty
 The Godfather
 Goldfinger
 Goodfellas
 Heart of Darkness (aka Apocalypse Now)
 The Hound of the Baskervilles
 Jaws
 The Jungle Book
 A Kestrel for a Knave (aka Kes)
 LA Confidential
 Les Liaisons Dangereuses
 Lolita
 Lord of the Flies
 The Maltese Falcon
 Oliver Twist
 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
 Orlando
 The Outsiders
 Pride and Prejudice
 The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie
 The Railway Children
 Rebecca
 The Remains of the Day
 Schindler's Ark (aka Schindler's List)
 Sin City
 The Spy Who Came in From the Cold
 The Talented Mr Ripley
 Tess of the D'Urbervilles
 To Kill a Mockingbird
 Trainspotting
 The Vanishing
 Watership Down
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: you be betty on April 21, 2006, 11:46:00 am
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Originally posted by renton007:
  I'd add Lebowski
YES
 why wasn't that on there?
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: Celeste on April 21, 2006, 12:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
  No Glengarry Glen Ross??
wasn't that a play-play to begin with? does that disqualify it?
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: brennser on April 21, 2006, 12:15:00 pm
It was...but I think you'd still need a screenplay to make the movie?
 
 
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Originally posted by brennser:
  No Glengarry Glen Ross??
wasn't that a play-play to begin with? does that disqualify it? [/b]
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: yinzer on April 21, 2006, 01:34:00 pm
i think back to the fucking future is just a little too high at 56.  don't get me wrong, i loved that movie when i was 12, but that's the thing, i was 12.  come on.
 
 i agree that there should be two lists - adpated and original.  there is a huge difference.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2006, 03:31:00 am
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  I'd add Lebowski
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 why wasn't that on there? [/b]
Coz it's shyte.....just like Rushmore.
 
 Two movies that our American friends raved about that both myself (English) and wife (Irish) couldn't stand...turned off midway on both.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: on April 23, 2006, 09:59:00 am
How did ROADHOUSE do?  It must've been @ #102.
 
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Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: you be betty on April 23, 2006, 11:41:00 am
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Originally posted by you be betty:
   
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Originally posted by renton007:
  I'd add Lebowski
YES
 why wasn't that on there? [/b]
Coz it's shyte.....just like Rushmore.
 
 Two movies that our American friends raved about that both myself (English) and wife (Irish) couldn't stand...turned off midway on both. [/b]
Really...and you didn't like Rushmore, either?  Lebowski is one thing, but I mean...Anderson...then again, a lot of people don't really get his movies.  But I guess those that feel the connection really love 'em.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: renton007 on April 24, 2006, 08:45:00 am
I'll agree about Rushmore. Everyone seems to love it but it did nothing for me. I really liked The Royal Tennenbaums though.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: Reechard D Taylor on April 26, 2006, 12:03:00 am
Rushmore is Anderson's best work, imo. Bottle Rocket is also great.
 
 I have to say when I first saw the thread topic, Network was the film that jumped to mind. I don't think there's ever been a better screenplay.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: you be betty on April 27, 2006, 12:23:00 pm
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Originally posted by Friend O' Guy Chadwick:
  Rushmore is Anderson's best work, imo. Bottle Rocket is also great.
 
 I have to say when I first saw the thread topic, Network was the film that jumped to mind. I don't think there's ever been a better screenplay.
damnnn straight it is
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: Shadrach on April 27, 2006, 12:38:00 pm
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Originally posted by Friend O' Guy Chadwick:
  Rushmore is Anderson's best work, imo. Bottle Rocket is also great.
 
 I have to say when I first saw the thread topic, Network was the film that jumped to mind. I don't think there's ever been a better screenplay.
Bottle Rocket is a really good first work for a director, but in the end it's too long, too slow and you don't really care for the characters at all. The movie launched several careers so it did what it was meant to do, but it doesn't stand up to his other movies.
 
 I know that people have this weird fascination with first works, but most directors will admit that their first features are crap when looking back. I just think people like to think that they are the one who ??discovered? a director, band, artist or actor, then they poo-poo the later works and act all snobby towards more widely accepted work. It??s such a strange behavior that I??ve never really understood?
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: eltee on April 27, 2006, 05:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
 but most directors will admit that their first features are crap when looking back. I just think people like to think that they are the one who ??discovered? a director, band, artist or actor, then they poo-poo the later works and act all snobby towards more widely accepted work. It??s such a strange behavior that I??ve never really understood?
Did you read that roundtable interview w/ Speilberg, Clooney, Capote director...and..(one more, can't remember) too?  :)
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: eltee on April 27, 2006, 05:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by renton007:
  I'll agree about Rushmore. Everyone seems to love it but it did nothing for me. I really liked The Royal Tennenbaums though.
Life Aquatic is even better.  :)
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: Sage 703 on April 27, 2006, 05:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by renton007:
  I'll agree about Rushmore. Everyone seems to love it but it did nothing for me. I really liked The Royal Tennenbaums though.
I didn't care for Rushmore either.  I thought it was boring.
 
 Tennenbaums is brilliant though.
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: you be betty on April 27, 2006, 07:32:00 pm
and the confusion continues...
 
 why didn't Sofia Coppola make the list?
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: Darth Ed on April 29, 2006, 01:30:00 pm
Sofia Coppola fans might want to check out the new Marie-Antoinette trailer. (http://a69.g.akamai.net/n/69/13042/v1/quicktime.allocine.fr/nmedia/18/36/20/98/18603777_fa2_vost_hd.mov)
Title: Re: Top Screenplays of all time
Post by: you be betty on April 29, 2006, 11:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
  Sofia Coppola fans might want to check out the new Marie-Antoinette trailer. (http://a69.g.akamai.net/n/69/13042/v1/quicktime.allocine.fr/nmedia/18/36/20/98/18603777_fa2_vost_hd.mov)
Duh, watched it yesterday.  It looks great.  The New Order didn't hurt, either...
 
 I'm glad it's not going to be another boring period piece.  I'm excited to see her spin on the whole thing.