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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Marty666 on August 03, 2007, 07:49:00 pm
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Americans are Fat.
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minnesota isn't fat; they're too drunk to eat.
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Has Keillor said anything about it?
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I'm sure he'll blame Bush and the war, just like the Democratic senators from Minnesota, despite the fact that the state's waste of their own revenue on bailing out pension fund liabilties ($972 million), seldom-used rail lines ($97 million), theaters ($12 million), bear exhibits at a zoo ($30 million), ethanol subsidies to an industry already experiencing a 300% increase in profit ($34 million), and viking ships ($1 million), and their waste of the nearly half a billion in federal transportation earmarks on things like nature trails mostly in sparsely populated areas ($48 million) and the University of Minnesota system ($19 million) is well (http://www.taxpayersleague.org/pdf/2006PigletBook.pdf) documented (http://www.dot.state.mn.us/safetea-lu/files/projectlistnov22.pdf).
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
I'm sure he'll blame Bush and the war
Considering he IS responsible for thousands of innocent deaths, adding a handful more wouldn't be much of a stretch.
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
I'm sure he'll blame Bush and the war
Considering he IS responsible for thousands of innocent deaths, adding a handful more wouldn't be much of a stretch. [/b]
last time i checked, everyone who spilled their blood in a death dance on iraq soil, did it from their own free will, because they obviously like to kill people and "get away" with it. bush didn't make them do anything; he just offered the possibility and they all jumped at the chance.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by bnyced0:
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
I'm sure he'll blame Bush and the war
Considering he IS responsible for thousands of innocent deaths, adding a handful more wouldn't be much of a stretch. [/b]
last time i checked, everyone who spilled their blood in a death dance on iraq soil, did it from their own free will, because they obviously like to kill people and "get away" with it. bush didn't make them do anything; he just offered the possibility and they all jumped at the chance. [/b]
I would have started with the incompetence and inaction that provided a window of opportunity that led to 911, and noone born on US soil volunteered to die that day.
As far as our military goes, you can't possibly believe we don't need to defend our selves, have a military force, and for it to be all volunteers?
But if you do, there's not much else to discuss because being irrationale doesn't lend itself to discussion.
But those men and women, for the most part, joined to military to defend our country, from real threats, under the belief that the commander in chief would use his authority in a responsible way.
For those that joined after it was evident we were going to be engaged in a unlawful and unjustified conflict, well you might have a marginal point and there may have been some war mongers amongst them and shame on them. But to paint everyone in uniform as a premeditated killer, is foolish and irresponsible much like the person who leads them. Nothing is black and white, and it's the failure to understand nuance that has led us down this destructive road.
The military deserve a leader worthy of their sacrifice, and the braindead asswipes that voted for W deserve the blame too (and again any and everyone regardless of age or gender who voted for W should have compulsory service in Iraq), as well as the ones that don't participate in the process which could have possibly mitigated the asswipes' votes.
But only one person could have stopped this dead in its tracks, and he'd burn in hell for what he's done to our country if only there was a hell.
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i hope youre just as upset with the congress who continues to fund the war.
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...and in the end, Iraq and your feelings on it have absolutely nothing to do with this bridge collapsing.
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
...and in the end, Iraq and your feelings on it have absolutely nothing to do with this bridge collapsing.
true.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
i hope youre just as upset with the congress who continues to fund the war.
Oh, believe me I'm pissed at any and everyone even tangentially associated with the entire enterprise but there's a special place for the architects.
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I dont know about you guys, but every time I see a young soldier with just one leg or one arm walking around in airports or in the mall, I think of W and it makes me feel really mad and sad at the same time
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Originally posted by lacroix:
I dont know about you guys, but every time I see a young soldier with just one leg or one arm walking around in airports or in the mall, I think of W and it makes me feel really mad and sad at the same time
to misquote harry truman; "the buck stops there".
the iraq war is proof that just because you can lie to america and get them to go along with some stupid unneeded military incursion, your lies wont change the facts on the ground awaiting your soldiers.
the iraq war is 100% bush's fault, as well as everything that goes along with it; the over 3,000 dead american soldiers, the 30,000 wounded americans, the 100,000 dead iraq civilians and now the ground we are losing in afghanistan.
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Again, none of which has anything to do with the money the states waste on frivlous crap when they should be paying for road and bridge repair.
Back on topic, plz.
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Again, none of which has anything to do with the money the states waste on frivlous crap when they should be paying for road and bridge repair.
Back on topic, plz.
I'm confused, who exactly interjected Bush into the conversation, albeit to seemingly to take a shot at political incompetence (amongst the Dems presumably) in Minnesota?
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Originally posted by econo:
Has Keillor said anything about it?
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
I'm sure he'll blame Bush and the war, just like the Democratic senators from Minnesota, despite the fact that the state's waste of their own revenue on bailing out pension fund liabilties ($972 million), seldom-used rail lines ($97 million), theaters ($12 million), bear exhibits at a zoo ($30 million), ethanol subsidies to an industry already experiencing a 300% increase in profit ($34 million), and viking ships ($1 million), and their waste of the nearly half a billion in federal transportation earmarks on things like nature trails mostly in sparsely populated areas ($48 million) and the University of Minnesota system ($19 million) is well (http://www.taxpayersleague.org/pdf/2006PigletBook.pdf) documented (http://www.dot.state.mn.us/safetea-lu/files/projectlistnov22.pdf).
Jesse "The Body" Ventura would have never let shit like this happen . . .
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"I ain't got time for bridge collapse."
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Jesse "The Body" Ventura would have never let shit like this happen . . .
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I'm sure he'll blame Bush and the war, just like the Democratic senators from Minnesota
For the record, Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota is Repugnican. But Al Franken of SNL is looking good to take his seat next year
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Originally posted by nkotb:
:D
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
I'm confused, who exactly interjected Bush into the conversation, albeit to seemingly to take a shot at political incompetence (amongst the Dems presumably) in Minnesota?
I never placed blame on the dems. However, the dems from Minnesota have been making comments in the media like:
"We've spent $500 billion in Iraq and we have bridges falling down in this country. I see a connection between messed-up priorities." (Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-MN)
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"[Bush] failed to support a robust investment in surface transportation." (Rep, James Oberstar, D-MN-8)
This despite the fact that the state of Minnesota has been wasting millions of their own tax revenue on frivolous crap like seldom-used rail lines, theaters, bear exhibits at a zoo, ethanol subsidies to an industry already experiencing a 300% increase in profit, and other corporate welfare, and freakin' viking ships, and then wasting millions more of the more than generous share of federal transportation dollars they have received on more frivolities, when they should be using it for critical transportation needs.
Rep. Oberstar even sent out a press release a month ago bragging about a recent transportation and housing appropriations bill where $12 million was earmarked for Minnesota: $10 million for a rail line that already received over $100 million from the state and the federal government, and $2 million for new bike and walking paths. Then he has the nerve to turn around and say that the federal government isn't giving his state enough money for critical repairs?
My point (and it's kind of sad that I have to explain this), is that there is more than enough money out there for critical transportation needs in each state and from the federal government, and when politicians look to blame someone for a tragedy and claim they need more of your money to fix the issue, you should take a good hard look at what is happening with the billions of tax dollars that are already there.
Minnesota, it seems, has been especially wasteful, and it is particularly hypocrtical for its politicians to try to blame Bush and bring up Iraq and priorities, when they are the ones responsible for allocating the loads of available money to political pet projects...and nature trails, rather than the critical needs of the roads and bridges.
Speaking of "priorities," all of the $48 million earmarked for Minnesota nature trails in the 2005 federal transportation bill were listed as "high priority," and $13.8 million of these were in Oberstar's district. Think about that for a minute.
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Originally posted by Stairmaster E:
I'm sure he'll blame Bush and the war, just like the Democratic senators from Minnesota
For the record, Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota is Repugnican. But Al Franken of SNL is looking good to take his seat next year [/b]
For the record, I never said "the entire Minnesota congressional delegation."
PS I am a fan of Al Franken.
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Speaking of arrogant politicians looking to blame someone for a tragedy and claiming they need more of your money to fix the issue...did anyone read the cover story in this morning's Express where Alaskan Republican Congressman Don Young says "We have to, as a Congress, grasp this problem. And yes, I would even suggest, fund this problem with a tax."
This, the same money grubbing asshole whose state took home $1 billion in pork from the 2005 federal transportation bill (that's roughly $1,595.07 per Alaskan), including a $231 million bridge in Anchorage that would be named for himself. Not included in the earmarks was the $223 million for the "bridge to nowhere" going to an island of 50 people, which by technicality was specifically defunded, but the money was still sent to the general Alaskan package and will be used for this bridge.
Minneota, by the way, received $449 million in earmarks, roughly $91.27 per person there, much of which, as mentioned, was also wasted on "high priority" pet projects.
I don't know about you, but I don't want my taxes raised to help pay for outlandish pet projects in Alaska (who, by the way, has the lowest state tax burden in the nation), and nature trails in Minnesota. Eliminate things like that and the arrogant politicians that allow them to happen first, then use the loads of money already available on critical repairs. No tax increase is needed, by far.
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
I don't know about you, but I don't want my taxes raised to help pay for outlandish pet projects in Alaska (who, by the way, has the lowest state tax burden in the nation), and nature trails in Minnesota. Eliminate things like that and the arrogant politicians that allow them to happen first, then use the loads of money already available on critical repairs. No tax increase is needed, by far.
geez, who do you work for, jeff flake?
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While I don't work for the man (or any politican for that matter), I will say that Jeff Flake is pretty badass.
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Again, none of which has anything to do with the money the states waste on frivlous crap when they should be paying for road and bridge repair.
Back on topic, plz.
no, the topic was Americans are Fat.
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Dc bridge collapse
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/23/us/pedestrian-bridge-collapse-washington-dc/index.html
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Dc bridge collapse
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/23/us/pedestrian-bridge-collapse-washington-dc/index.html
37 years ago, a different pedestrian bridge over Kenilworth: Truck Demolishes D.C. Footbridge, Snagging Traffic (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1984/10/27/truck-demolishes-dc-footbridge-snagging-traffic/12921f68-63ac-4e8a-902c-4b4353e8c85c/)
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While I don't work for the man (or any politican for that matter), I will say that Jeff Flake is pretty badass.
I wonder if Alex still thinks Jeff Flake is pretty badass?
And this seems like the right thread to post this pic:
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R8baa69b6746e7c2e10d5856d7555e362?rik=eEZzS8zUqITWOQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fbloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com%2fthesouthern.com%2fcontent%2ftncms%2fassets%2fv3%2feditorial%2f1%2f77%2f177f308b-cb60-5535-b8c7-4c1d2bcbcade%2f56a2b5e948b8d.image.jpg&ehk=kB8xIV5lcokWLWo6tcMSkF46T%2fjz%2bJfP50P7jAxZeEM%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw)
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Anyone who has driven that stretch on 295 knows it’s pretty dire
Somewhat abandoned really
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The gentrifiers have barely begun to establish themselves in Anacostia. They're probably waiting to see what happens with RFK.
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And now DC:
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/07/1-trapped-others-injured-in-nw-dc-building-collapse/
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....and the forum already has a "bridge collapse" thread!
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....and the forum already has a "bridge collapse" thread!
We’ve always been streets ahead.
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wow the bad takes on this are staggering..
someone blue tick genius is claiming this was is all an "orchestrated distraction from the Piddy news" as he points to the lights on cranes as evidence it was a series of explosions that took down the bridge..
we really absolutely live in a terrible timeline.
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....and the forum already has a "bridge collapse" thread!
My favorite Bridges Leon.
I'm betting yours is the guy from the Big Lebowski.
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wow the bad takes on this are staggering..
someone blue tick genius is claiming this was is all an "orchestrated distraction from the Piddy news" as he points to the lights on cranes as evidence it was a series of explosions that took down the bridge..
we really absolutely live in a terrible timeline.
Kooks, cranks, and trolls have existed forever, they just didn't have easily accessed platforms until recently. Add an idiot's idea of free speech and we have the current crisis.
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(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/55SV4PFUPAJIGSFKSZE3N4VPM4.JPG&w=1800&high_res=true)
Excellent photo from WaPo showing just how enormous the ship is compared to the bridge.