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Title: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Bags on March 09, 2006, 02:14:00 pm
We may as well begin with tonight's show, with an 11:00 scheduled start time for the Pogues.  
 
 Place your bets, place your bets.
 
 I'm going with 11:45.  Incredibly optimistic, I know....    :p
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 09, 2006, 02:33:00 pm
from what i hear only brazilians have a hard time getting to the stage on time   ;)  
 
 the bigger question is whether or not they've cleared customs...
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Bags on March 09, 2006, 02:53:00 pm
Not sure how long ago it was, but one of the Pogues 9:30 club shows didn't begin until after 1:00 a.m. (there were set to go on at 11:00, I think).
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Post by: andyrichter on March 09, 2006, 05:05:00 pm
12:30 give our take 5 minutes.
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Post by: alex on March 09, 2006, 05:29:00 pm
Fuck, I totally forgot about their reputation for being notoriously late.  I got all excited when I saw their start time was 10:00 on Friday, because if it got out by 11:30 or midnight, I'd still have time to go do some partying with my friends who didn't get tickets.
 
 I'm going to say 11:00 for Friday.  I'll be optimistic.
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Post by: psbales on March 09, 2006, 07:54:00 pm
Ever the optimist, I say midnight, on the dot!!
 
 -Paul!
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Post by: lily1 on March 09, 2006, 09:07:00 pm
yup, i'm going with that as well. make sure you have cab fare cuz metro is going to be long closed by the time you get out of the club!
 
 
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
  12:30 give our take 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: brennser on March 10, 2006, 02:58:00 am
they came on at 11.15
 
 wow, wow, wow, fucking unbelievable show - great sound, great musicians, great lyrics
 
 this is the third time I've seen them and this was easily the best
 
 I highly recommend that even if you don't have a ticket swing by the club tomorrow night and see if you can pick one up - you won't regret it
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 10, 2006, 08:53:00 am
kidda figured they would be "prompt"... expecting your fans to shell out $50 dollars to see you then make them wait isn't going sit too well with them.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Bags on March 10, 2006, 09:13:00 am
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  kidda figured they would be "prompt"... expecting your fans to shell out $50 dollars to see you then make them wait isn't going sit too well with them.
They've done it before....THANKS, Brennser, for the report.  I am getting very excited!!
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 10, 2006, 09:39:00 am
i'm not denying it hasn't happened in the past, but as the pogues age so does their fanbase, paying $50 to around waiting for them is probably going to wear thin for some..
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: dfmcpete on March 10, 2006, 10:01:00 am
Is this now the roll call thread?
 
 Setlist, according to the Pogues' site:
 ----------
 DC 3/09 Setlist
 Streams of Whiskey
 Fall From Grace
 Broad Majestic
 Turkish Song
 Youg Ned
 Brown Eyes
 Rain Street
 White City
 Tuesday Morning
 Old Main Drag
 Sayanara
 Repeal
 Sunnyside of the Street
 Body of an Am.
 Lullaby of London
 1000's are Sailing
 Dirty Old Town
 Bottle of Smoke
 Sickbed
 
 Encore 1
 Sally Maclennane
 Rainy Night in Soho
 Dog
 
 Encore 2
 Star of County Down
 Fairytale
 Fiesta (with awesome beer tray by Spider!)
 ---------
 Looking forward to tonight...
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Relaxer on March 10, 2006, 10:14:00 am
No "Misty Morning Albert Bridge"? That's too bad, it's my favorite Pogues song. I'm still going to hope for a big rousing version of it tonight.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Bags on March 10, 2006, 11:37:00 am
Hey, if anyone knows of an available ticket, I have a friend who is now interested....
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Barcelona on March 10, 2006, 11:40:00 am
Amazing show, great song selection and great sound. Incredible musicians, all of them, James Fearnley with the accordion, Spider Stacy, Terry Woods, Andrew Ranken, Jem Finer, Philip Chevron, Darryl Hunt... banjo, whistle, mandoline, saxo... fuck, unforgettable show, and by the way, great crowd. Thanks 9:30 for such a superb show. and thanks the Pogues for being what they are, one of the most brilliant bands ever.
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Post by: EricV on March 10, 2006, 01:27:00 pm
They were on time and they were as great as these legends of music ever were. For the record, since reforming for the reunion tours the Pogues have not canceled or been unusually late for a gig. In addition, even though Shane has his demons, and some friends of mine saw him being helped up the delivery ramp on teh side last night and they said he looked rough, his voice was STRONG. Yeah, a bit of slurring now and then, and you would too if you were drinking and had no teeth, and a line or word in or out here or there, but this is Shane MacGowan. This is the Pogues.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: joz on March 10, 2006, 01:27:00 pm
reading last night's setlist just gave me chills...i am so unbelievably excited for tonight. i can't concentrate on work and i've had rsatl running through my head non-stop for the last week.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Here's the thing on March 10, 2006, 01:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by joz:
  reading last night's setlist just gave me chills...i am so unbelievably excited for tonight. i can't concentrate on work and i've had rsatl running through my head non-stop for the last week.
Took the words right out of my mouth, err, keyboard. I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a show. I want to the club in 84 or 85, but there was a sign that said, "Pogues - Sold Out. No Chance." I finally get to make up for that error frrom 20 years ago!
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: joz on March 10, 2006, 01:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by phillidan:
   
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Originally posted by joz:
  reading last night's setlist just gave me chills...i am so unbelievably excited for tonight. i can't concentrate on work and i've had rsatl running through my head non-stop for the last week.
Took the words right out of my mouth, err, keyboard. I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a show. I want to the club in 84 or 85, but there was a sign that said, "Pogues - Sold Out. No Chance." I finally get to make up for that error frrom 20 years ago! [/b]
that's so sad...i'm glad you'll have a chance to see them tonight. i saw shane mcgowan about 6 or so years ago at the 9:30 and he was in really bad shape at that show. a week or so before that performance, a friend of his od'ed in his apartment outside london. i feared that it would be cancelled, but he went on anyway. i remember him barely being able to stand on his own.
 
 anyone planning to knock back a few pints beforehand? i'm trying to decide where to pre-game...
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Bags on March 10, 2006, 02:42:00 pm
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Originally posted by joz:
 anyone planning to knock back a few pints beforehand? i'm trying to decide where to pre-game...
We're doing dinner at Nanny's (though we should friggin' find a place to eat outside), and will be at DC9 by 8:00 to have a few pops before the show.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: joz on March 10, 2006, 02:46:00 pm
i forgot about nanny's...i haven't been in there for a long time. i do remember them having pretty good food tho. i was thinking about fado on 7th since it's only a couple metro stops away from u street.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Dr. Anton Phibes on March 10, 2006, 03:35:00 pm
I may have an extra ticket to dump......won't know till 7,though....I won't have any problem getting rid of it out front,I'm sure....
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: brennser on March 10, 2006, 04:25:00 pm
I tell ya, they are going to knock your socks off - I was fully expecting it to be another tired reunion for the $$ but honestly because most of them are sober now and shane is under control they are possibly better than they ever were - it was such a great gig - I am still on a high today
 
 I got to see 2 great gigs this week - B&S and The Pogues - lucky me!
 
 I wonder are they thinking of writing any new music?
 
 
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Originally posted by joz:
  reading last night's setlist just gave me chills...i am so unbelievably excited for tonight. i can't concentrate on work and i've had rsatl running through my head non-stop for the last week.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: thirsty moore on March 11, 2006, 02:55:00 am
Great gig tonight from the boys.  My girl and I had a good time.  Basically the same listed from the ninth, minus the beer tray.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: General_Tso on March 11, 2006, 03:00:00 am
Excellent, excellent show.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 11, 2006, 09:35:00 am
i concur...
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Post by: Here's the thing on March 11, 2006, 12:35:00 pm
Anyone have photos to share from Friday night? What a show.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: thekevinator on March 11, 2006, 12:39:00 pm
Meh.  It was good, not great.  It was certianly nice to see the most famous lineup back together, but I've seen the Pogues before, and I've seen Shane and the Popes a few times also, and it was just more of the same stuff.  Geez guys, write some new songs!
 
 I don't know what I expected, of course they're going to play their best & most well-known songs.  BUt I was a little underwhelmed.
 
 Side note:  did anyone see a little bit of arguing  b/t Shane and Spider on stage?
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: General_Tso on March 11, 2006, 02:31:00 pm
Not to hijack the thread or anything, but a fellow named Leeson used to be in the Popes and now plays with his own band called Neck ( http://www.neck.ie (http://www.neck.ie) -   http://www.myspace.com/neckireland (http://www.myspace.com/neckireland) ).    They're coming to the states next week and are playing the Velvet Lounge on the 24th.  The fact that my band is playing with them has nothing to do with my unsolicited post     :D    .
 
 I didn't catch the arguing.  I only saw the last half of the set and the two encores as it took me that long to stake out some real estate where I could actually see the band from the top bar and shift into it when the previous occupiers left.
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Post by: Darth Ed on March 11, 2006, 04:08:00 pm
What a fun, fun show! I've never seen the Pogues before, so it was all pretty fresh for me. The crowd was really into it. In front there was a lot of pogo-ing and even some gentle, good-natured moshing at times. Shane slurred more than a "bit". I think I understood what he was saying less than 10% of the time. But I agree with whomever posted above that much of his drunkenness seemed like an act to me. I have no doubt he does some drinking before the show, but I think he exaggerates his drunkenness quite a bit for the audience. He clearly drank water for the whole show until near the end when most of the bottle of whiskey he finished off ended up on the floor or his shirt.
 
 I loved William Whitmore! I would have bought both of his CDs last night, except 9:30 was overcharging again ($15). No thanks. I'll get them from Amazon or directly from his label.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: joz on March 11, 2006, 04:42:00 pm
great show. setlist was unbelievable. the crowd up front was rough, but jovial...thanks to whomever picked me up off the floor at one point. although i was thinking how cool my obit would be had i gotten trampled to death at a pogues show. oh well.
 
 too bad they never did waltzing matilda, but fairytale of ny was gorgeous...especially with the snow coming down and shane trying hopelessly to dance with the woman on stage. loved every second. for me, it's definitely up there with tom waits as one of the best shows i've seen.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Darth Ed on March 11, 2006, 05:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by joz:
 fairytale of ny was gorgeous...especially with the snow coming down and shane trying hopelessly to dance with the woman on stage. loved every second.
Yeah, that was quite the concert-going moment, one of the best I've ever experienced at the 9:30. I hope I never forget that. Fabulous. The "snow" was dishsoap bubbles, I think.
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Post by: twangirl on March 11, 2006, 06:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
 
  I would have bought both of his CDs last night, except 9:30 was overcharging again ($15).
FYI the artists set the price of their merchandise, not the venue.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: thatguy on March 11, 2006, 08:44:00 pm
the last two nights were a lot of fun, and a lot less trouble than i expected based on past experience.  there were a few trouble spots here and there, but for the most part, the crowd was well behaved, and that meant i got to enjoy the shows more.  
 
 i think friday's show had a lot more energy all around.  the band was great both nights, but they seemed to be having more fun with the second show.  shane was in much better shape than the last time i saw him, but trust me when i say the the drunken antics are not an act.  that's all you're going to get out of me on that topic, though.  it seemed to me that shane was holding the band back, and i was more impressed with the songs that he spent offstage, when the band let loose a bit.  
 
 i don't usually go for things like that, but i thought that the snow was a neat touch, especially because i didn't have to clean it up afterwords.  
 
 all in all, i'm glad to have had the chance to see the shows, and i'm glad that they didn't live up to my worst case scenario expectations.
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Darth Ed on March 11, 2006, 09:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by twangirl:
     
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
 
  I would have bought both of his CDs last night, except 9:30 was overcharging again ($15).
FYI the artists set the price of their merchandise, not the venue. [/b]
We've been over this before. The artist may determine the price, but the venue takes a cut of the sales and the 9:30 Club takes a bigger cut than some other venues. It's perhaps commensurate with the 9:30 Club's size and status as a venue, but, as a result, the CDs at 9:30 Club shows often cost more than they would elsewhere and I purchase fewer of them. Anyway, some people complain about the $6 Yuenglings; I like to complain about the cost of the CDs. It's just my thing.
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Post by: thatguy on March 11, 2006, 10:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
  We've been over this before. The artist may determine the price, but the venue takes a cut of the sales and the 9:30 Club takes a bigger cut than some other venues. It's perhaps commensurate with the 9:30 Club's size and status as a venue, but, as a result, the CDs at 9:30 Club shows often cost more than they would elsewhere and I purchase fewer of them. Anyway, some people complain about the $6 Yuenglings; I like to complain about the cost of the CDs. It's just my thing.
direct quote from william elliot whitmore when i bought a cd from him away from the merch counter at the end of the night: "i usually charge $15."
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Post by: Dr. Anton Phibes on March 12, 2006, 09:23:00 pm
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Originally posted by strangebeer:
  Excellent, excellent show.
Sums it up about right! One of the truly fun evenings I have had at the club in years! Band was tight & playful.....the crowd was rabid for the music & veryone was enjoying themselves.....I was right down in the middle of it......Joz, I only picked you up once!.....  :D  ....the only thing that I was pretty pissed off about was when I attempted to take a few pics up front....dude to the front left got up in my face and screamed "NO,NO!" repeatedly in my face.....of course letting other people shoot away around me and one other guy up front that he "shut down" also...we drifted back and to the middle and I got some pics anyway.....maybe he didn't read THIS!
 http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=002742 (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=002742)
 ......anyway,great night overall regardless.....classic set by a classic band.....
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Post by: SomethingMild on March 12, 2006, 09:41:00 pm
I see that a pretty good quality recording of Thursday's show is now out. Just downloaded it. Anyone know of one for Friday's show?
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: joz on March 13, 2006, 10:19:00 am
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Originally posted by Jonas Grumby:
  Joz, I only picked you up once!
glad to have met ya...thanks, jonas!
Title: Re: Over/Under on Pogues actual start times
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 13, 2006, 10:50:00 am
Pogues are on Conan Thursday, for those of us on more modest budgets...
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Post by: on March 13, 2006, 11:43:00 am
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Originally posted by joz:
   
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Originally posted by Jonas Grumby:
  Joz, I only picked you up once!
glad to have met ya...thanks, jonas! [/b]
I wanna bear your children.
 
   <img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/932347dc.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Post by: kcjones119 on March 13, 2006, 11:50:00 am
pictures of Shane with Martin O'Malley from friday. (http://shanemacgowan.net/gallery53.html)
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Post by: Bags on March 13, 2006, 11:58:00 am
First, I've got to commend the 9:30 Club staff -- I was pretty close up, stage left, and there was some active moshing going on.  A staff person came over, didn't intervene at all, but just made sure things weren't getting out of hand.  I stood behind him and it was awesome.  I'm tellin' ya, the staff is so amazing.  Nearly all of the time they are watching out for us and we don't even know they are there...
 
 Second, GREAT show.  All of it, which I quite happily remember.  Who needs anything more for a Friday night.  It's all been said, so I can't really add to the comments other than to note that there's another very happy patron whistling Pogues' ditties at work today.
 
 Oh, and third, thanks to our hero Relaxer who not only passed along a spare ticket to me for that friend who realized too late how great a night it would be, but made it particularly easy to get the ticket.  THANKS!
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Post by: Barcelona on March 20, 2006, 10:05:00 am
Review, NYC show
 
  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/17/arts/music/17pogues.html?_r=1&oref=slogin (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/17/arts/music/17pogues.html?_r=1&oref=slogin)
 
 Some Old Irish Songs With Punk and Pop
 
 By BEN RATLIFF
 Published: March 17, 2006
 
 Shane MacGowan took the stage yesterday evening, intoning some profane verses from Lou Reed's "Sister Ray," and then the Pogues fired into "Streams of Whiskey." When Mr. MacGowan removed his sunglasses, a few songs into his first performance in New York with the band in 15 years, you could look him in the eyes. Not the whites of them: he looked half-asleep, heavy-lidded, his face a slack, puffy frown surrounding missing teeth. The upper third of his face, anyway, was the most expressive part of his body.
 
 The crowd at the Pogues concert Thursday night.
 In their seven-year run as an intact band, the Pogues amassed a cult audience around the world, fusing the sound of old Irish songs with punk and pop, bringing out the smashing force of a folkloric dance music. They made money; they had hits. They ejected Mr. MacGowan in 1991; he was only 33, but there was not much left in him, physically.
 
 (One of his band members recently said that the end came when the singer was "leaving taxis horizontally.")
 
 Conceivably, there could have been more life in the project. He, and other members in the band, had written a stack of first-rate songs about memory and hope and disappointment, about Irish culture moving and staying in place. With some traditional instruments, two-beats and waltzes and ballads, they sounded permanent. A little like Bob Dylan, they had created a sound in their youth that wasn't disappearing any time soon.
 
 So the energies of the music had no problem last night, at the beginning of their four-night run at the Nokia Theater, during their first full American reunion tour. The energies of the singer did, intermittently, however. And for a Pogues show, the night before St. Patrick's Day, the crowd was more docile than one might have expected. It had aged, too, though not as sharply as Mr. MacGowan.
 
 In a two-hour show that culled their best songs â?? opening with "Streams of Whiskey," running through "If I Should Fall From Grace With God," "Young Ned of the Hill," "Bottle of Smoke," "A Pair of Brown Eyes," "The Old Main Drag," and closing with "Fairy Tale of New York" and "Fiesta," they did as good a job as age and context would allow, playing well if slightly subdued.
 
 Mr. MacGowan took breaks in the wings, vaguely restoring himself; others took the microphone to sing, including the tin-whistle player Spider Stacy and the guitarist Philip Chevron. But it was Mr. MacGowan who owned the best moments, with his lurching growl, especially in "Dirty Old Town," where the audience sang along through all four image-rich verses about kissing a girl by the factory wall and smelling the spring on the smoky wind. Turning words into syrup, he said a few unintelligible things between songs â?? something about Americans, something about Truman Capote and Jimmy Breslin. He drank on stage. But he appeared not to miss a word of a song.
 
 The Pogues continue at Nokia Theater, 1515 Broadway, tonight, tomorrow and Sunday.
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Post by: bikerchickdc on March 21, 2006, 01:29:00 am
I saw the Friday (St. Pat's day) show in NYC. Classic falling-down-drunk Shane.  It was a great set especially towards the end because he gets so passionate when he's had a few but there were a lot of pissed-off people in the audience, especially for the first half or so where Shane left the stage after every two songs and Spider took over for 2 or 3 before Shane could make it back.