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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Mobius on June 14, 2006, 07:33:00 pm
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Certain links have been posted elsewhere, but this deserves its own thread. Tons of absolutely amazing stuff.
Here's My Bloody Valentine in their prime performing I Only Said. Sound and video quality are a little sketchy, but its mesmerizing. Date and venue not listed.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O7awaiQTKM)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcDB92hc9u8&search=kraftwerk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcDB92hc9u8&search=kraftwerk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg7gaTLVViw&search=homosapien (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg7gaTLVViw&search=homosapien)
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i have up a couple of videos from shows. nothing revolutionary or anything, just some clips. and i have tons to still put up...takes forever to upload that bitch...
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Bob Dylan performing Jokerman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJSGbMs5a1U&search=bob%20dylan-%20jokerman) on Letterman. Though on the album it has a reggae feel, he performs it in a punk/new-wave style that is surprisingly cool.
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Originally posted by The Jesus Nut:
Originally posted by SPARX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcDB92hc9u8&search=kraftwerk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcDB92hc9u8&search=kraftwerk)
Cabaret Voltaire, not Kraftwerk. SPARX Rawks!
[/URL] [/b]
Never judge a book by it's cover :D
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vintage 'mats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3dSVtKGu3M&search=replacements)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcNfRwzRilM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcNfRwzRilM)
a kind of weird homemade music video set to the Magnetic Fields' "Long Forgotten Fairytale" and set in Cuba (i think)
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For Dupek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1j2rPqhowQ)
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Originally posted by chaz:
vintage 'mats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3dSVtKGu3M&search=replacements)
I saw that on youtube as well, then discovered that the entire show is on Twin Tone Records site:
http://www.twintone.com/video/mats/ (http://www.twintone.com/video/mats/)
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plug plug
www.youtube.com/user/joesuburb (http://www.youtube.com/user/joesuburb)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woMEExMZXg&search=ghost%20rider (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woMEExMZXg&search=ghost%20rider)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgwapyzRWxw&search=sigue%20sigue%20sputnik (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgwapyzRWxw&search=sigue%20sigue%20sputnik)
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the high strung woohoo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=TWTdOdjiIkg)
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Pitchfork's 100 Awesome Music Videos (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/36588/Staff_List_100_Awesome_Music_Videos)...all on YouTube. They have some good ones on there.
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You could post 500 music video links a day from Youtube....who has time to watch 'em all unless you are terminally unemployed??......
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Slowdive - "Souvlaki Space Station" (live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQcSI09Gte8)
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Slowdive - "Souvlaki Space Station" (live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQcSI09Gte8)
Nice!
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Best * Interviewee * Ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipXqS0JnYz0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipXqS0JnYz0)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o57zgo0jCBA&search=pil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o57zgo0jCBA&search=pil)
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www.youtube.com/watch?search=paris+hilton&v=Jvg6VF7s8jU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=paris+hilton&v=Jvg6VF7s8jU)
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The Bro Rape:
http://www.derrickcomedy.com/brorape.htm (http://www.derrickcomedy.com/brorape.htm)
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcNfRwzRilM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcNfRwzRilM)
a kind of weird homemade music video set to the Magnetic Fields' "Long Forgotten Fairytale" and set in Cuba (i think)
love it.
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Who knew the Osmonds rocked? I've had this riff in my head for a week now.
Crazy Horses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyRiNZDb5EY)
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Who knew the Osmonds rocked?
Crazy Horses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyRiNZDb5EY)
I did...that's Jay singing at the beginning and doing the semi-chicken dance. He was the rebel, the rocker. Then that's Merrill singing the higher parts.
I don't even want to mention how many Osmond Bros. albums I had. Okay, it was just two. Then there were the Donny and Marie albums, and the Donny solo. But I was only 8, 9 years old. Keep that in mind!
Too funny -- this is about "The Plan," an album from 1973 I remember buying at K-mart for $4.88 when I was 9 (several years after it was released!).
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The 1970s saw the release of countless concept albums, but few were as unusual or unexpected as this 1973 magnum opus from the Osmonds. Anyone who thinks of this family group as a bubblegum soul outfit will be bowled over by this incredibly ambitious outing, which attempts to explain the family's Mormon beliefs through a series of songs that cut across a wide variety of pop genres. The end result is a testament to the group's versatility and skills as musical craftsmen but The Plan ultimately doesn't work for a few important reasons. The first is that the songs are too serious and overblown for their own good: "Are You up There?" and "The Last Days" have solid melodies, but their preachy lyrics are too awkward and diffuse to convey the group's beliefs with any real power. The other big problem with The Plan is that it is overwhelmed by its own musical ambition: the abrupt jumps from fuzzy acid rock ("Traffic in My Mind") to orchestrated show tune-styled arias ("Before the Beginning") to frenetically bopping big band soul ("It's Alright") result in more genre-hopping than a single album can handle. That said, a few solid tunes emerge from the clutter to make an impression: "Let Me In" is a smooth, lushly orchestrated ballad whose clever lyrics can be heard both as a love song and a devotional hymn, and "Goin' Home" is a sharp, keyboard-driven rocker whose hook-laden style is reminiscent of Elton John's early-'70s tunes. Ultimately, The Plan comes off as an ambitious misfire instead of the thought-provoking epic it was obviously intended to be, but its grandiose style makes it worth a spin for Osmonds fans and anyone into unusual 1970s pop artifacts. ~ Donald A. Guarisco, All Music Guide
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It was just a matter of time...
YouTube sued over copyright infringement
By Greg Sandoval, CNET News.com
Published on ZDNet News: July 18, 2006, 5:40 PM
A journalist and well-known helicopter pilot in Los Angeles has filed suit against video-sharing site YouTube, claiming that it encouraged users to violate copyright law.
Robert Tur says video he shot of the beating of trucker Reginald Denny during the 1992 Los Angeles riots was posted at YouTube without his permission and viewed more than 1,000 times. Tur says in his lawsuit, filed Friday in U.S. District Court, that YouTube is profiting from his work while hurting his ability to license his video.
"Mr. Tur's lawsuit is without merit," YouTube said in a statement. "YouTube is a service provider that complies with all the provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), and therefore is entitled to the full protections of the safe harbor provisions of the Act."
Passed in 1998 to protect copyright holders from technology that facilitated piracy, the DMCA also offered protection to Web service providers by limiting their liability in cases where their customers were found guilty of copyright violation.
Those in the video-sharing sector have for months expected someone to challenge YouTube in court. The San Mateo, Calif.-based company lets users post videos to its site without prescreening them, and a staggering amount of copyright video exists on the site. YouTube prohibits the uploading of such material but has also benefited in the past when someone has posted a professionally made clip that catches fire with the public.
Earlier this year, a skit from "Saturday Night Live," called "Lazy Sunday" drew large audiences to YouTube's site and generated lots of media attention before the company pulled the clip at the request of NBC.
Since learning of Tur's suit, YouTube has removed his clip, the company said in its statement. Tur didn't ask that the company remove the clip prior to filing his suit, YouTube said.
Tur is asking the court for $150,000 per violation and an injunction barring any further use of his material.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Who knew the Osmonds rocked?
Crazy Horses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyRiNZDb5EY)
I did...that's Jay singing at the beginning and doing the semi-chicken dance. He was the rebel, the rocker. Then that's Merrill singing the higher parts.
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You're One Bad Apple, Bags. ;)
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Who knew the Osmonds rocked?
Crazy Horses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyRiNZDb5EY)
I did...that's Jay singing at the beginning and doing the semi-chicken dance. He was the rebel, the rocker. Then that's Merrill singing the higher parts.
I don't even want to mention how many Osmond Bros. albums I had. Okay, it was just two. Then there were the Donny and Marie albums, and the Donny solo. But I was only 8, 9 years old. Keep that in mind!
Too funny -- this is about "The Plan," an album from 1973 I remember buying at K-mart for $4.88 when I was 9 (several years after it was released!).
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The 1970s saw the release of countless concept albums, but few were as unusual or unexpected as this 1973 magnum opus from the Osmonds. Anyone who thinks of this family group as a bubblegum soul outfit will be bowled over by this incredibly ambitious outing, which attempts to explain the family's Mormon beliefs through a series of songs that cut across a wide variety of pop genres. The end result is a testament to the group's versatility and skills as musical craftsmen but The Plan ultimately doesn't work for a few important reasons. The first is that the songs are too serious and overblown for their own good: "Are You up There?" and "The Last Days" have solid melodies, but their preachy lyrics are too awkward and diffuse to convey the group's beliefs with any real power. The other big problem with The Plan is that it is overwhelmed by its own musical ambition: the abrupt jumps from fuzzy acid rock ("Traffic in My Mind") to orchestrated show tune-styled arias ("Before the Beginning") to frenetically bopping big band soul ("It's Alright") result in more genre-hopping than a single album can handle. That said, a few solid tunes emerge from the clutter to make an impression: "Let Me In" is a smooth, lushly orchestrated ballad whose clever lyrics can be heard both as a love song and a devotional hymn, and "Goin' Home" is a sharp, keyboard-driven rocker whose hook-laden style is reminiscent of Elton John's early-'70s tunes. Ultimately, The Plan comes off as an ambitious misfire instead of the thought-provoking epic it was obviously intended to be, but its grandiose style makes it worth a spin for Osmonds fans and anyone into unusual 1970s pop artifacts. ~ Donald A. Guarisco, All Music Guide [/b]
Great post. Now I've just got to find that album.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq55bGtsNnk&search=hasil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq55bGtsNnk&search=hasil)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1xAEJaOD5k&mode=related&search=high%20violets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1xAEJaOD5k&mode=related&search=high%20violets)
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velocity girl @ fort reno 1992 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZzX9xHabPU)
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Last night I came across some wonderful live Elliott Smith stuff from the May 2000 Irving Plaza show. I wish that stuff like that would see the light of day on DVD.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVYySVz3MGA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVYySVz3MGA)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ5bcNQNafc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ5bcNQNafc)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq-BPomrsxo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq-BPomrsxo)
Man I hope he tours again soon.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVYySVz3MGA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVYySVz3MGA)
I really like Goldfrapp; every one of their albums has been strong. I had to get the new one as an import, has it been released here yet? Strict Machine seems like the perfect DJ cut.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI)
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Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI)
Thank you for that.
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Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI)
I really don't like this band... but that video is pretty cool. Looks like it was all on take too.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T5X5QvRgHs&NR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T5X5QvRgHs&NR)
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Roisin Murphy (http://youtube.com/watch?v=I1iimMM61ts)
Jason Forrest (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-3fa-sjsvno)
Suburban Kids With Biblical Names (http://youtube.com/watch?v=sFBmlWdPSYU)
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Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI)
awesome
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Originally posted by brennser:
Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI)
awesome [/b]
It is awesome. I watched it a couple more times last night, showed the wife, emailed to a couple friends, etc. That is the sign of an effective video, especially in a time when videos aren't nearly as popular as they used to be.
It was probably a cheap video to make too. I read somewhere that it took them around 15 takes to nail, which means it was probably done in a day or two.
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i've been searching for a video, maybe someone here can help me (apologies if this is one of the videos highlighted above - in fact that's what reminded me of it)
the video is of four guys in an English-looking garding, doing an elaborate choreographed dance/skit. appears to be shot in one take, i don't remember a break in the filming. my favorite part was when they suddenly cut to a slo-mo karate sequence. the dudes look to be in their fourties. i don't remember much about the song, but it was pop & mellow.
any help in identifying the band and song would be most appreciated :)
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
That is the sign of an effective video, especially in a time when videos aren't nearly as popular as they used to be.
It was probably a cheap video to make too. I read somewhere that it took them around 15 takes to nail, which means it was probably done in a day or two.
Smackette said the video was featured on Good Morning America a couple days ago:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2290982 (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2290982)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXGhC8YS5pI&NR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXGhC8YS5pI&NR)
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the video is of four guys in an English-looking garding, doing an elaborate choreographed dance/skit.
ignore my request (which most of you were doing anyways :) )
it's OK Go, "A Million Ways" Dance (http://www.okgo.net/video.asp)
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Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T5X5QvRgHs&NR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T5X5QvRgHs&NR)
I'm a sucker for the sound of a Farfisa Mini Compact.
<img src="http://www.keyboardmuseum.org/pic/f/farf/minicompact.JPG" alt=" - " />
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In their FOURTIES? Ha. Ha ha. Ahahahahahah...take it back.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeFH-QoAPCk&eurl= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeFH-QoAPCk&eurl=)
<img src="http://www.b3tards.com/uploads/nosnakes.gif" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:
What happened to the Spin Doctors?
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:
What happened to the Spin Doctors? [/b]
Watch it before it gets yanked.
http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013625 (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013625)
The Simpsons ep cracked me up. I love Bart's response...
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Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:
Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:
What happened to the Spin Doctors? [/b]
Watch it before it gets yanked.
http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013625 (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013625)
The Simpsons ep cracked me up. I love Bart's response... [/b]
I like that there is a "Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents."
Those Windsors really really care for their loyal subjects.....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJcw-K4FMhU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJcw-K4FMhU)
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Originally posted by ggw?:
I like that there is a "Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents."
Those Windsors really really care for their loyal subjects.....
That link was originally called 'Chavs on a Roundabout' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK4qJmthrl8&mode=related&search=). I wonder...what's a chav? Do we have them here in the US, or is it a Brit thing only? Maybe they have chavs in Canada; after all it's British commonwealth..?
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq_OBffO_4U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq_OBffO_4U)
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Linda Blair sings Carole King (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXT4cCbc1xE) to Luke Skywalker
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YouTube could be a steal at $1 billion
By Greg Sandoval
http://news.com.com/YouTube+could+be+a+steal+at+1+billion/2100-1026_3-6108971.html (http://news.com.com/YouTube+could+be+a+steal+at+1+billion/2100-1026_3-6108971.html)
Story last modified Thu Aug 24 08:45:50 PDT 2006
By agreeing to pay $65 million for Grouper--a profitless video-sharing company with negligible market share--Sony has helped establish a benchmark for other companies in the space and sent industry insiders speculating wildly about what market leader YouTube may be worth.
Sony's acquisition Wednesday of Grouper, which owns less than 1 percent of the online video market, begs a rather obvious question about its far larger rival YouTube, which owns 43 percent market share: If a company were to buy YouTube tomorrow, what would it have to pay?
"The viral video space is so hot right now; it's like Hansel from the movie 'Zoolander,'" said Aram Sinnreich, managing partner of RadarResearch, referring to the 201 comedy about competition in the modeling business. "I wouldn't be surprised to see (online video market leader) YouTube receive a bid of $1 billion. Whether the company is worth it is another question."
Video-sharing sites allow the public to post homemade videos to the Web, where the videos' creators can be seen dancing, singing, acting, joking and lip-syncing. If that doesn't sound like much of a business, consider that more than 200 companies now present some kind of user-submitted content, and that teens and young adults are flocking to these sites.
How much is too much?
Entertainment analysts have predicted in recent weeks that sites with large followings would command a high price. The Sony deal proved them right. But while the Grouper deal helped establish a benchmark, there is still plenty of confusion about the fair value of online video companies. This is because the typical metrics for measuring a company appear to have gone out the window--just like they did during the bubble years of the late 1990s.
Nobody knows whether anyone can make money by hosting user-submitted videos. (None of the top standalone companies in the sector has reported profits.) Few if any barriers to entry exist. It's unclear which entertainment companies may be in the market for one of these companies. And copyright issues loom for some of the sites. Despite all this, the only thing anyone involved in the sector talks about is "eyeballs."
A large and loyal audience is why News Corp. paid $580 million for Intermix, the parent company of MySpace.com, a move widely ridiculed at the time by the business press. MySpace had only 12 million people logging on to the site each month when News Corp. bought it.
Critics at the time said that Rupert Murdoch, News Corp.'s chief, paid too much. Not anymore. Google agreed this month to pay $900 million over nearly four years to provide search and advertising for MySpace.
Now, compare that with San Mateo, Calif.-based YouTube. The company, which was founded in February 2005, sees 16 million unique users per month.
Another reason YouTube may be a $1 billion company is that Facebook, the second-largest social networking site next to MySpace, has a monthly audience of more than 9 million and has rejected an offer of $750 million from Viacom, according to a BusinessWeek article in March. Facebook is holding out for $2 billion, according to the magazine.
That Grouper drew $65 million with less than a 1 percent market share, according to traffic-tracking firm Hitwise, only fuels speculation about the market value of YouTube and its 43 percent market share.
Those are the kinds of numbers that keep people speculating even while YouTube executives deny that the company is for sale. YouTube declined to comment for this article.
Yet to turn a profit
To be sure, plenty of questions remain about YouTube's business. First, the company has yet to turn a profit even though CEO Chad Hurley has said that YouTube is generating significant revenue.
The company also has a lawsuit hanging over its head. A TV journalist in Los Angeles alleges that YouTube violated copyright by posting without permission a 1992 video he shot of the beating of trucker Reginald Denny. Many YouTube users post copyright works, and legal experts say that this could lead to expensive court battles. Finally, if YouTube is worth $1 billion, then that reduces the number of companies that could afford to buy it.
"The real question is whose lawyers are going to let them make the bid," Sinnreich said. "It's virtually impossible to build a site with YouTube's brand strength, loyal user base. YouTube is a time bomb and a gold mine waiting to happen. The question is which one will be bigger."
As for YouTube's competitors, it's a grab bag of companies shouting over one other about which one has better technology, interface, audience and content.
One thing to keep in mind is that not all video sites offer the same thing. For instance, Guba has begun offering digital movies for download as well as video sharing. Heavy.com and Veoh Networks produce their own content. Their names have been thrown in with the YouTubes and Gubas of the Web, even though they have completely different goals, said Veoh CEO Dmitry Shapiro.
"Two marketplaces are evolving," Shapiro said. "One is Web video sharing...where YouTube dominates. The other is a parallel marketplace that we call Internet TV. Veoh is all about allowing producers to present, in long form, high-quality broadcasting. Video sharing is about video snacks. We're after the cable TV market."
Shapiro said one must remember--when calculating the worth of online video companies--that the cable industry in the United States generates $65 billion a year. He argues that YouTube, Veoh and all the others have begun encroaching on that turf.
"If you really believe these companies are reinventing this gigantic space," he said, "you can argue that they are bargains."
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That link was originally called 'Chavs on a Roundabout'. I wonder...what's a chav? Do we have them here in the US, or is it a Brit thing only? Maybe they have chavs in Canada; after all it's British commonwealth..?
according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav), the US has wiggers instead.
canada, being culturally somewhere in the middle of the US and the UK, has both... but really, who'd want either one? (ducks)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
YouTube could be a steal at $1 billion
This headline is an example of people forgetting what happened to the dot.coms in 2000/2001. YouTube is a great site and I have spent hours checking out various clips. But it is not inherently a business that has crossover potential, like Yahoo or Google did, so it can't be easily licensed for different applications. Advertising won't be sufficient, and if they start charging subscriptions, the vast majority of users will disappear.
Thus far there is no credible business plan for making it profitable. What they're doing is what the dot.coms were doing in the 90s - saying that they just want to get people enticed now, and then later they'll just beef up their advertising contracts. That's fine if they want to keep revenues in the seven figure range. But if a company pays anything close to a billion dollars for it, they're going to have to figure out how to make it a lot more profitable than that.
Plus, it's basically a Napster/Limewire for video. Those copyright issues WILL come back and bite them in the ass, which means they'll be facing huge legal expenses (not to mention unfavorable judgments) with no money to pay for them.
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This is teh shit!
Winnie the Pooh meets Apocalypse Now (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rj_YPJvia8A)
<img src="http://www.b3ta.hnldesign.nl/beta152.gif" alt=" - " />
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The Mountain Goats
"Woke Up New"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSdRizGYb0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSdRizGYb0)
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
This headline is an example of people forgetting what happened to the dot.coms in 2000/2001....
Thus far there is no credible business plan for making it profitable.
The trouble with YouTube
Aug 31st 2006 | SAN FRANCISCO
From The Economist print edition
It attracts a lot of viewers, but can ??user-generated? video make money?
??STARBUCKS has comfy chairs, but they don't charge people for sitting in them,? says Tom McInerney, the boss and co-founder of Guba, an internet-video company. Instead, he explains, Starbucks provides a comfortable environment, at considerable expense, so that people will buy overpriced coffee. That, in essence, is the business model being pursued by websites that host ??user-generated content? such as personal blogs, photographs and today's craze, amateur videos, which can be uploaded and watched on sites such as YouTube, Google Video, MySpace, Guba, Veoh and Metacafe. By offering a setting for free interaction, such sites provide the online equivalent of comfy chairs. The trouble is that, so far, there is no equivalent of the overpriced coffee that brings in the money and pays the bills.
That is why people like Chad Hurley and Steven Chen (pictured), the co-founders of YouTube, the clear leader of the pack by audience size, are casting around for a business model. Aware that inserting advertisements at the beginning of video clips, as some sites do, is annoying and risks driving away YouTube's users, Mr Hurley and Mr Chen have announced two experiments with advertising, with the promise of more to come. One idea is for ??brand channels? in which corporate customers create pages for their own promotional clips. Warner Brothers Records, a music label, led the way, setting up a page to promote a new album by Paris Hilton. The second experiment is ??participatory video ads?, whereby advertisements can be uploaded and then rated, shared and tagged just like amateur clips. This ??encourages engagement and participation,? the company declares.
Even as advertisers evaluate these new ideas, however, YouTube and the other video-sharing sites face other difficulties. For one thing, they are in a no-man's land of copyright law: they promise to pull pirated content from their sites when asked to do so, but it is only a matter of time before one of them is hit with a big lawsuit. Then there are the costs of running such a site??video requires a lot of bandwidth and storage. A rival estimates that YouTube is losing more than $500,000 a month.
Putting paid-for advertisements alongside amateur video clips, perhaps based on keywords or tags, poses another problem. ??How do you know the guy in a video doesn't make a racial slur?? asks Mr McInerney. Many firms will be cautious about letting an automatic system??such as, say, Google's AdSense??place their ads next to user-generated clips of unknown provenance and with potentially embarrassing contents. (Even so, Guba is testing AdSense for Video, which has not yet been officially launched.)
For its part, Guba is betting on a combination of advertising plus the sale and rental of commercial video material. Its site offers both free amateur videos and paid-for content, including films from Sony and Warner Brothers. When Guba cut its prices last week, allowing new films to be downloaded for $9.99 and older ones for $4.99, its sales jumped tenfold. Google Video also allows content owners to charge for video. This suggests that internet-video sites are on a collision course with DVD-rental outfits, such as Netflix, which are moving towards the delivery of films via the internet, rather than as discs sent through the post.
That, in turn, highlights another business model for the 200-odd internet-video sites. During the previous internet bubble, they would have rushed to list their shares as fast as they could; this time around, many will try to be bought by media conglomerates instead. Last week Sony, which has a large film studio and lots of video to promote, bought Grouper, a small video-sharing site, for $65m. And News Corporation, Rupert Murdoch's media conglomerate, is turning MySpace, its popular social-networking site, into a challenger to YouTube. Little wonder then that the founders of YouTube, Guba and other independent video sites go to great lengths to be quoted saying respectful things about other media moguls.
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POLYSICS - BlackOutFallOut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaSIyi1fkTw)
...check out that finger
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Anybody playing with this yet?
http://www.singingfool.com/ (http://www.singingfool.com/)
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Looking forward to this video:
Sixteen: old enough to be on MySpace, but not in this music video
Posted by Denise Howell @ 10:11 am
The Los Angeles Times reports that serveral music industry organizations, including Warner Music Group and Atlantic Records, are being sued by a sixteen-year-old girl who responded to a MySpace ad touting the opportunity to appear as an extra in a Buckcherry video. According to the plaintiff, she was not carded but was given alcohol before her ensuing Girls Gone Wild-esque behavior was captured for posterity. According to the band, she had to have presented a fake i.d. and falsified a release in order to participate. According to the Los Angeles Times, "The Buckcherry situation is just the latest incident demonstrating how the Internet is erasing lines that once separated the private and the public."
It's interesting that the role of MySpace is being underscored here, in what would appear to be an effort to leverage the negative press and fear surrounding minors' involvement with the site. Presumably the same ad on the band's Web site or in local print publications would have achieved similar results, if not perhaps reaching as broad an audience.
Meanwhile, the defendants' lawyers must be busy channeling Roy Scheider's Brody from Jaws: You're gonna need a much better bouncer.
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Duh.
MySpace may create rival for YouTube
Silicon Valley/San Jose Business Journal - 10:35 AM PDT Wednesday
On Tuesday, News Corp. Chief Operating Officer Peter Chernin told investors at the Merrill Lynch Media & Entertainment Conference in Pasadena that the company might create a rival for video Web site YouTube through News Corp.'s popular social networking site MySpace.com, according to media reports.
Chernin told the group that he estimates that between 60 percent and 70 percent of San Mateo-based YouTube Inc.'s traffic comes through MySpace, and that any forays into video by MySpace would be in an effort to keep that traffic internal.
Chernin also added that News Corp. will experimenting with offering some of its studio content on the Web via MySpace.
"You're going to see us starting to play more aggressively on the entertainment side of that site," he told the group.
MySpace.com is based in Santa Monica. It became part of the News Corp. (NYSE: NWS) conglomerate when the company bought MySpace's parent company, Los Angeles' Intermix Media, for $580 million.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Looking forward to this video:
Sixteen: old enough to be on MySpace, but not in this music video
Posted by Denise Howell @ 10:11 am
i'm looking forward to the inevitable lonelygirl15 sex video.
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That TV on the Radio bit from Letterman made me think of another great Letterman appearance:
At The Drive-In (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYqKNLR8vWM)
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Patterson Hood - So. Central Rain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQqUzP9XRkY)
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Christy Mihos, an independent for Governor of Massachusetts. You really need to see his first commercial:
http://www.christy2006.com/pages/multimedia.cfm (http://www.christy2006.com/pages/multimedia.cfm)
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This one always brightens my day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuB8xWeA59I&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuB8xWeA59I&mode=related&search=)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99O1Nl91RnE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99O1Nl91RnE)
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the undertones in the studio recording teenage kicks
fantastic stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYg5c9EL7s0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYg5c9EL7s0)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy97vEGrshM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy97vEGrshM)
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When are these guys coming to the club? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=eTKL8MNH95Q)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTm0c9H79tE&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTm0c9H79tE&mode=related&search=)
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Worse video ever? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8610362188397291938&q=flavor+of+love+clips&pr=goog-sl) Worse than Relaxer's latest entry, IMHO...
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Worse video ever? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8610362188397291938&q=flavor+of+love+clips&pr=goog-sl) Worse than Relaxer's latest entry, IMHO...
Anyone remember Mtv doing the huge number of iterations of this crap video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xElHwT_udmQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xElHwT_udmQ)
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Worse video ever? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8610362188397291938&q=flavor+of+love+clips&pr=goog-sl) Worse than Relaxer's latest entry, IMHO...
That always cracks me up! It's from Finland.
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Worse video ever? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8610362188397291938&q=flavor+of+love+clips&pr=goog-sl) Worse than Relaxer's latest entry, IMHO...
That always cracks me up! It's from Finland. [/b]
Didn't you post that before, Dupek? I've seen it, and you're the only person I could think of who would recommend it!
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Real men cry at this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRwmZ2bp_B0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRwmZ2bp_B0)
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Jescofest 2006-Jesco Rules!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmjeoMMPvko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmjeoMMPvko)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krmowThBYUk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krmowThBYUk)
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Verizon nearing content deal with YouTube?
By Reuters
http://news.com.com/Verizon+nearing+content+deal+with+YouTube/2100-1039_3-6133104.html (http://news.com.com/Verizon+nearing+content+deal+with+YouTube/2100-1039_3-6133104.html)
Story last modified Tue Nov 07 05:55:21 PST 2006
Verizon Communications, the No. 2 U.S. telecommunications company, is in advanced talks with YouTube to bring the Web site's videos to cell phones and television sets, The Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday.
A deal may give Verizon a marketing edge over its rivals in the wireless and cable industries, furthering the company's efforts to expand into Internet and entertainment services, the Journal reported.
Under the terms being discussed, customers of Verizon Wireless--Verizon's joint venture with Vodafone Group--would be able to view some YouTube videos on their cell phones through the carrier's premium V Cast service, the Journal said.
Verizon also would offer YouTube videos as an on-demand feature of a TV service it is launching throughout the nation, according to the paper.
A deal may give Verizon the exclusive right to carry YouTube videos for a limited period of time, one person with knowledge of the discussions told the Journal.
YouTube recently agreed to be bought by Web search leader Google for $1.65 billion.
Story Copyright © 2006 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Copyright ©1995-2006 CNET Networks, Inc. All rights reserved.
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It isn't music, per se, but it is a funny clip of Faith Hill getting pissed that she didn't win a CMA.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c1bwMOc0I7Y (http://youtube.com/watch?v=c1bwMOc0I7Y)
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Great Drummer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzqumbhfxRo) !
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
Great Drummer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzqumbhfxRo) !
an even better one... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RpYRyE7Rm0)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ekOKh8lNHs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ekOKh8lNHs)
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Jeff Porcaro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YQZqVEREHQ) time sig
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1TZmn_YPgQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1TZmn_YPgQ)
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Worse video ever? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8610362188397291938&q=flavor+of+love+clips&pr=goog-sl) Worse than Relaxer's latest entry, IMHO...
That always cracks me up! It's from Finland. [/b]
I now understand why death and black metal flourishes in Scandanavia...
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seriously WTF??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrMJew6ncMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrMJew6ncMM)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGtWssdauME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGtWssdauME)
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I know the opinions on U2 are sharply divided here, but this is a great video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VskbxuehP3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VskbxuehP3I)
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Originally posted by eros:
I know the opinions on U2 are sharply divided here, but this is a great video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VskbxuehP3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VskbxuehP3I)
i can usually put up with bono's ego, but that video is just ridiculous.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBU7ehHpAZU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBU7ehHpAZU)
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While taking classes towards my French minor many years ago, I heard "Désenchantée" by Mylène Farmer in class. I still listen to the song, but didn't realize there was a video.
Désenchantée (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T898__wF3NI)
It's not just a video, it's a tragic French-Canadian epic with kids smoking and killing people! The ending is awesome.
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Mary J.Bilge
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Mary J.Bilge
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y8klW9trVTQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y8klW9trVTQ)
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Patti Smith sings You Light Up My Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agl4IvNnQPo) on a kids TV show.
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Mary J. Bilge
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BepyTSzueno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BepyTSzueno)
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Nice TG pick SPARX! I saw a recent photo of Genesis. He has breasts now...
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Thanks econo, I've been a fan since I got turned onto them via a performance at the end of The Cramps Live at Napa State mental hospital VHS tape I bought decades ago.
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Real British TV sitcom:
Heil Honey I'm Home!
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbj9otRPdiM)
I believe this was the inspiration for the Stone/Parker Comedy Central masterpiece THAT"S MY BUSH!
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<img src="http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/_/C/tmb_cast.jpg" alt=" - " />
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=7LAZgcC3jgo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7LAZgcC3jgo)
Digital Short on SLOTHS from SNL this past saturday. One of the funniest ones i've seen.
"They Sleep 18 hours, but party 24!"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-wEBmLht5g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-wEBmLht5g)
I've watched this at least twice a day since I found it.
Worth noting:
Heather Graham and Sharon Stone ROCKING out.
The entire audience on their feet at the end of the show, when they were all sitting at the beginning.
David Bowie. Enough said.
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very cool - where was it shot?
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Fashion Rocks on CBS.
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jesus.
Another one that gives me chills:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8QYnxIjHWg&NR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8QYnxIjHWg&NR)
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Stevie Nicks' Fajita Roundup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXhBUdKXWNs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXhBUdKXWNs)
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Cool video from Peter, Bjorn and John
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51V1VMkuyx0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51V1VMkuyx0)
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OLD, I know, but a favorite:
Ben Gibbard & Colin Meloy cover Blur's End Of A Century (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGXItjBrIE&eurl=)
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Mr.T Sings:
http://savemanny.blogspot.com/2007/01/i-pity-fool-who-messes-with-mr-ts-mama.html (http://savemanny.blogspot.com/2007/01/i-pity-fool-who-messes-with-mr-ts-mama.html)
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not exactly on youtube, but check out cat power performing at the chanel fashion show. you can find it here:
http://chanel.com/fashion/en-us/index.php?fullscreen=1&goto=0&x=30&y=0&width=1152&height=752 (http://chanel.com/fashion/en-us/index.php?fullscreen=1&goto=0&x=30&y=0&width=1152&height=752)
Click on "Fashion Shows" --> "Spring-Summer 2007 Haute Couture" --> "Videos"
I found this on pitchfork's weekly forkcast. Cat Power is definitely a hottie. Looks right at home with those models.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfu3mMnG9b4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfu3mMnG9b4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meDaNc5EgpI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meDaNc5EgpI)
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A little YouTube mixtape that i put together:
http://www.last.fm/user/HoyaParanoia/journal/2007/03/6/361976/ (http://www.last.fm/user/HoyaParanoia/journal/2007/03/6/361976/)
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I'm off today in honor of (Julio) Cesar Chavez. Gotta love CA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLQRv0RjBBM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLQRv0RjBBM)
And I'm not even drinking yet...
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The Stone Roses. Blackpool. I Am The Resurrection (2 parts). Reni!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HA8T1mE-HI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HA8T1mE-HI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDpuIfUkgpo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDpuIfUkgpo)
My Bloody Valentine. Soon. London. 1990. (sketchy sound and video but . . . .)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjXVd-7t34E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjXVd-7t34E)
The Replacements. Talent Show. 1989 - Great performance from some made for TV awards show (apparently hosted by Sam Kinison)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1gdRQ_N3PU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1gdRQ_N3PU)
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Seems as though that whole MBV show is up there; too bad the sound is bad throughout.
Grizzly Bear - "Knife" at the black cat from a few weeks back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1AM3ERZtc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1AM3ERZtc)
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Lightning Bolt - The Power Of Salad And Milkshakes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2emHj3qTX9k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2emHj3qTX9k)
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Nirvana - Here She Comes Now (VU Cover)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBbjRNZUuVY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBbjRNZUuVY)
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M83 - Run Into Flowers live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Mt3WjUCe8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Mt3WjUCe8)
I still feel like an ass for skipping them in order to see an inferior band two years ago. :(
Hope they tour again soon.
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remarkable, alanis covering black eyed peas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91sqAs-_-g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91sqAs-_-g)
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This thread ought to be more appropriately titled:
Youtube videos you like and poast here, but that hardly anyone else will give a rats behind about or watch.
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This thread ought to be more appropriately titled:
Youtube videos you like and poast here, but that hardly anyone else will give a rats behind about or watch.
always putting a stink on everything...
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the truth will set you free
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Guess who's (http://youtube.com/watch?v=S19I2kYeOQ8&mode=related&search=) fun at parties?
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Youtube videos you like and poast here, but that hardly anyone else will give a rats behind about or watch.
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Guess who's (http://youtube.com/watch?v=S19I2kYeOQ8&mode=related&search=) fun at parties?
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Originally posted by econo:
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/53d5f904.gif" alt=" - " />
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Guess who's (http://youtube.com/watch?v=S19I2kYeOQ8&mode=related&search=) fun at parties?
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Not even newsworthy clips (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zp2ZvAqsIBE) on pertinent events of the day?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT_0gPrzGA0&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT_0gPrzGA0&mode=related&search=)
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Originally posted by SPARX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT_0gPrzGA0&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT_0gPrzGA0&mode=related&search=)
You know when Don died he left like 50 great-grand children all in diapers...a bunch of nappy-bottomed Ho's! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5WOAxu28C0)
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Isn't that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEyP1HF4UKY) Mel, the cook from Alice?
Isn't that Super Dave Osbourne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ab2WH-yvw) as the cop at the end?
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Twilight Singers w/Mark Lanegan
live with me/where did you sleep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbmGM56XYeo&mode=related&search=)
excellent vid & sound