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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sweetcell on August 09, 2007, 04:05:00 pm
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heads up: if you pre-order the upcoming foo fighter's album via iTunes, you also get a presale code for tickets to their fall tour: more info (http://www.ticketmaster.com/foofighters?spotlight_ren_od=1&tm_link=tm_home_4_f2) - they are "expected" to play DC, along with the usual tour hotspots. album pre-orders get an advance track, and a bonus track once the album drops. calling all fan-boys and fan-girls...
related question: i don't have an ipod, so i don't have itunes on any of my computers. i got my girlfriend to pre-order the album for me, and when it arrived i'll have her burn a CD for me. how good/bad will this CD sound? it'll be from a compressed source so it obviously won't be as good as an original CD... what bitrate MP3 can one compare itunes format to? i certainly don't claim to have golden ears (insert joke about earwax here), but i am a bit of an audiophile snob.
thoughts appreciated - thanks.
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it's only 128 mbps.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
what bitrate MP3 can one compare itunes format to? i certainly don't claim to have golden ears (insert joke about earwax here), but i am a bit of an audiophile snob.
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Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
it's only 128 mbps.
cool, thanks... but does mp4 @ 128 = mp3 @ 128? (i think itunes tracks are mp4/mpa, not sure)
mind you, at this point it's too late - order has been placed, just curious.
oh, and just to be a dick: it's kbps, not mbps :p
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thanks for reminding me to do this. depending on the date (keeping my fingers crossed for november) i'm going to take my mom for her birthday.
also, i got an itunes gift card for my birthday so that = free tunes and presale tix YAY!
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MP4 is way better than Mp3s at low bit rates :)
Oh, thanks for correcting me, you dick.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
cool, thanks... but does mp4 @ 128 = mp3 @ 128? (i think itunes tracks are mp4/mpa, not sure)
oh, and just to be a dick: it's kbps, not mbps :p
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you're welcome :)
which brings me back to my original question - to what bitrate MP3 might it be comparable?
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Around 160 kbps (mp3)
Originally posted by sweetcell:
you're welcome :)
which brings me back to my original question - to what bitrate MP3 might it be comparable?
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sc-how did you find out about this? (I never receive updates from Ticketmaster even though I have it set up for particular reminders..so I'm curious.)
Is there a possibility there will be the same option via Amazon? I prefer an actual cd for certain albums/bands. Also, labels will sometimes offer both options.
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i found out by checking out the front page of ticketmaster.com, i was there to buy tickets for regina spektor. no automated alert/e-mail blast, unfortunately.
check your junk mail folder, i definitely get other e-mails from TM announcing regular on-sales, upcoming shows from my favorite artists, etc.
i too would have preferred a CD, but i doubt that amazon and other outlets will have this presale ticket offer. more and more big artists are having itunes-only presales. at least they tend to have very good seats in the itunes presales.
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Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
Around 160 kbps (mp3)
Originally posted by sweetcell:
you're welcome :)
which brings me back to my original question - to what bitrate MP3 might it be comparable?
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I'd say more like 192kbps. I rarely hear artifacts in 128 AACs but for me MP3s have to be at least 192.
Another thing about AACs: besides sounding better, the files are smaller than MP3s at the same bitrate.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
i too would have preferred a CD, but i doubt that amazon and other outlets will have this presale ticket offer.
pshaw. if you were such an audiophile you'd be clamoring for the album.
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
I'd say more like 192kbps. I rarely hear artifacts in 128 AACs but for me MP3s have to be at least 192.
cool, thanks. 192 is indeed tolerable.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
pshaw. if you were such an audiophile you'd be clamoring for the album.
by album, do you mean vinyl? sorry, i never got on that boat - vinyl invariably gets scratched, has pops, dust is an issue... i'm very happy with CDs. but please, let's not get into the tired old analog vs. digital debate.
or did you mean the CD instead of itunes? i definitely would have preferred that so i could rip my own MP3s (typically 256 VBR), but i really wanted the presale code which only comes with the itunes album... thus my enquiry to find out how listenable it will be. i may yet get myself the CD, depending on how much i like the recording. you'll note that i qualified my audiophileness :p
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I have pre ordered the album and have not got a code yet. How do we get the code?
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all compressed music is noticeably sucky... get a 300GB network drive and store all your music lossless...
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Originally posted by ca3077345:
I have pre ordered the album and have not got a code yet. How do we get the code?
dunno, we haven't received ours either as far as i can tell. might have to contact iTunes and ask?
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by ca3077345:
I have pre ordered the album and have not got a code yet. How do we get the code?
dunno, we haven't received ours either as far as i can tell. might have to contact iTunes and ask? [/b]
The codes don't come out until right before the tix go on sale and by logic after the dates have been announced. This has become a pretty standard thing (Pumpkins, Interpol, Tori A, etc) with there being a four ticket limit, FOR ONE SHOW, not over the course of the tour. I received a share holder missive about the state of itunes, and these pre-sales were touted as boltstering sales X percent and as an incentive to get bonus tracks from artist and entice labels to use ITUNES PLUS. I'm an apple homer, but this is starting to sound like 21st Century payola.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
i found out by checking out the front page of ticketmaster.com, i was there to buy tickets for regina spektor. no automated alert/e-mail blast, unfortunately.
I got emails from both TicketMaster and iTunes. The iTunes email said I was included because I have bought Foo tracks from them in the past. Maybe TM did something similar, since I've purchased Foo tickets online in the past.
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
The codes don't come out until right before the tix go on sale and by logic after the dates have been announced.
cool, thanks for the info
Originally posted by bnyced0:
I received a share holder missive about the state of itunes, and these pre-sales were touted as boltstering sales X percent and as an incentive to get bonus tracks from artist and entice labels to use ITUNES PLUS. I'm an apple homer, but this is starting to sound like 21st Century payola.
not quote payola IMO, since that implies one person paying to have other people listen to something... in this case, it's those who are listening who are chosing to pay. i don't blame the artists at all. people have stopped buying albums. rewarding one's most loyal customers is a standard business practice.
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this band has become increasingly boring with every release.
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Not to be a jerk on a Friday but if you consider yourself an audiophile who appreciates really great music, than why are you listening to the Foo Fighters?
Brian
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Not to be a jerk on a Friday but if you consider yourself an audiophile who appreciates really great music, than why are you listening to the Foo Fighters?
Brian
What does Friday have to do with it? Your opinion of Foo doesn't ruin my weekend. But, don't mess with The Grohl.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Not to be a jerk on a Friday but if you consider yourself an audiophile who appreciates really great music, than why are you listening to the Foo Fighters?
Brian
Being an audiophile is about the quality of the playback, not the material. Though the source is vital, regardless of the artist.
Or did I just bite on your periodic taking the piss for no logical reason or germane to the issue?
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by bnyced0:
The codes don't come out until right before the tix go on sale and by logic after the dates have been announced.
cool, thanks for the info
Originally posted by bnyced0:
I received a share holder missive about the state of itunes, and these pre-sales were touted as boltstering sales X percent and as an incentive to get bonus tracks from artist and entice labels to use ITUNES PLUS. I'm an apple homer, but this is starting to sound like 21st Century payola.
not quote payola IMO, since that implies one person paying to have other people listen to something... in this case, it's those who are listening who are chosing to pay. i don't blame the artists at all. people have stopped buying albums. rewarding one's most loyal customers is a standard business practice. [/b]
There's little incentive to reward the loyal customers, they're going to buy it anyway, these perks are for those on the fence. Loyal fans get secret/surprise shows, free downloads, unique merch, etc. These Itune deals, are aimed squarely at Joe Undecided, you my friend aren't the target demo but you get the benefit of their new digital tactics. Though I'll conceed Payola is probably not the appropriate term, it's the first that came to mind when the thought of bribery crossed my mind.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
i found out by checking out the front page of ticketmaster.com, i was there to buy tickets for regina spektor. no automated alert/e-mail blast, unfortunately.
I got emails from both TicketMaster and iTunes. The iTunes email said I was included because I have bought Foo tracks from them in the past. Maybe TM did something similar, since I've purchased Foo tickets online in the past. [/b]
For what it's worth: I just noted an email from the FF list regarding this topic. (no mention of Amazon, other option.)
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Not to be a jerk
ever notice that when someone says that, they are in fact about to be jerks?
but no worries brian, i tune my speakers to the likes of my chemical romance and fallout boy - the standards for any audiophile :roll:
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Not to be a jerk
ever notice that when someone says that, they are in fact about to be jerks?
no worries brian, i tune my speakers to the likes of my chemical romance and fall out boy - the standards for any audiophile ;)
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Originally posted by Greer Zoller:
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
i found out by checking out the front page of ticketmaster.com, i was there to buy tickets for regina spektor. no automated alert/e-mail blast, unfortunately.
I got emails from both TicketMaster and iTunes. The iTunes email said I was included because I have bought Foo tracks from them in the past. Maybe TM did something similar, since I've purchased Foo tickets online in the past. [/b]
For what it's worth: I just noted an email from the FF list regarding this topic. (no mention of Amazon, other option.) [/b]
You may get extra tracks through alternate retailers but Jobs has exclusive rights to the presale passwords through itunes and ticketbastard. Another sign that this is less than loyal fan friendly enterprise is that this just gave the scalpers another avenue to snake good tix from the fans, and they don't have to do anything other than a mouse click.
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Not to be a jerk
ever notice that when someone says that, they are in fact about to be jerks?
no worries brian, i tune my speakers to the likes of my chemical romance and fall out boy - the standards for any audiophile ;) [/b]
I have a friend whose speaker cables alone cost 3 grand and they were 2nd hand! God knows how much his interconnects etc cost. I do know he just got a new set of speakers that retail for $17,000. He got them used at a bargain for $8,000, but of course one of them needed repairs....
His system sounds great....but not THAT great.
I splurge on the toys a bit too and probably spend more than the average person on audio gear, but my pal has some sort of sickness.
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hey hey hey!! :cool:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Not to be a jerk on a Friday but if you consider yourself an audiophile who appreciates really great music, than why are you listening to the Foo Fighters?
Brian
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I was wondering how long that would take. :)
Originally posted by Bags:
hey hey hey!! :cool:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Not to be a jerk on a Friday but if you consider yourself an audiophile who appreciates really great music, than why are you listening to the Foo Fighters?
Brian
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I was going to use an iTunes gift certificate, but it doesn't even charge you...it says your account will be charged when the album is downloaded. I'm pretty sure I don't have a CC on file with Apple. Hope this doesn't f*&^ up.