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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on August 13, 2007, 10:02:00 pm
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So I was at Wonderland tonight, and this group of four people started ranking on The Smiths... loudly going on about how boring they are, and how much they suck, and so on and so forth. I thought about saying something, but they were being so loud that it seemed like they were just looking to piss someone off, and I didn't want to give them the satisfaction.
Now, I can imagine how some people might not find the Smiths to be their cup of tea, but it still seems to me like anyone of intellect and taste would recognize that they were something special, even if they didn't personally care for them... am I wrong here?
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you are wrong to assume everyone is capable of comprehending the greatest that is the smiths. almost 50% of all people have below average intelligence. those four were merely some of them.
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You're probably right. At one point, what sounded like the opening notes to the funk classic "Tell Me Something Good" came on, and this guy yelled out like he was having an orgasm, "I LOVE THIS SONG," and then it turned out to be a trance-pop song built on that bassline instead, and he seemed vaguely nonplussed while still trying to appear like he was into it.
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Maybe they read this board. Posting your experience here may still satisfy their desire to piss someone off just for the sake of it. Not unlike nutjobs who commit a crime just to get in the news.
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It's kind of funny, as I've gotten older I sometimes don't listen to certain bands that I held so dear to my heart at a point in time, but the Smiths always end up getting played even now.
The Smiths represent a really dark time in my life. When most kids my age were discovering Metallica and Iron Maiden, I was listening to the Smiths. And I got a pretty massive case of teen angst at a young age (11). That was when I started suffering from clinical depression, which I dealt with on and off for at least 10 years after that. While most folks medicate themselves with pills (if they're in therapy) or booze or drugs, I medicated myself through music. And to me the Smiths were one of the few bands that truly spoke to me, both in music and words. Morrissey was so fucked up, confused, pathetic, lonely, and yet he had an ability to laugh at himself too, which was what I needed to hear.
So when I think of the Smiths, it's kind of like comfort food. It's not exactly going to suit my palate all the time now, but it brings me back to a place and time when I needed SOMETHING to make me feel like everything was going to be OK. Someone was telling me that they felt the same way I did, and that was enough for me to get up every day. And it really cemented my love of music. I'm listening to "The Queen is Dead" right now, and some of it fucking ROCKS. "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" still bums the shit out of me (not as bad as "Asleep"), but from a purely musical view they were (and still are) brilliant.
If someone wants to be a dick and say that the Smiths suck, then I feel kind of sorry for them. That band's music is sacred to me, but at the time I felt like I was the only one they were talking to, and I treasure the incredibly personal aspect that their music gave to me. I think what made the Smiths special is the fact that they weren't afraid to be mopey, morbid, or depressed. They embraced it as part of humanity, and even if you think Morrissey is a whiny bitch who needs to get laid and eat a steak, he always carried himself with pride for being who he was. He was very unapologetic about it, and I admire that. I especially respect his stance on why he won't reform the Smiths. Good for him.
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Originally posted by bearman:
It's kind of funny, as I've gotten older I sometimes don't listen to certain bands that I held so dear to my heart at a point in time, but the Smiths always end up getting played even now.
The Smiths represent a really dark time in my life. When most kids my age were discovering Metallica and Iron Maiden, I was listening to the Smiths. And I got a pretty massive case of teen angst at a young age (11). That was when I started suffering from clinical depression, which I dealt with on and off for at least 10 years after that. While most folks medicate themselves with pills (if they're in therapy) or booze or drugs, I medicated myself through music. And to me the Smiths were one of the few bands that truly spoke to me, both in music and words. Morrissey was so fucked up, confused, pathetic, lonely, and yet he had an ability to laugh at himself too, which was what I needed to hear.
So when I think of the Smiths, it's kind of like comfort food. It's not exactly going to suit my palate all the time now, but it brings me back to a place and time when I needed SOMETHING to make me feel like everything was going to be OK. Someone was telling me that they felt the same way I did, and that was enough for me to get up every day. And it really cemented my love of music. I'm listening to "The Queen is Dead" right now, and some of it fucking ROCKS. "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" still bums the shit out of me (not as bad as "Asleep"), but from a purely musical view they were (and still are) brilliant.
If someone wants to be a dick and say that the Smiths suck, then I feel kind of sorry for them. That band's music is sacred to me, but at the time I felt like I was the only one they were talking to, and I treasure the incredibly personal aspect that their music gave to me. I think what made the Smiths special is the fact that they weren't afraid to be mopey, morbid, or depressed. They embraced it as part of humanity, and even if you think Morrissey is a whiny bitch who needs to get laid and eat a steak, he always carried himself with pride for being who he was. He was very unapologetic about it, and I admire that. I especially respect his stance on why he won't reform the Smiths. Good for him.
All I can say is....DAMN.
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Sorry...I felt passionate about it :) I figure this is a place for discourse, not just the usual "blah blah sucks" vs. "blah blah rules".
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This is an interesting topic. As I write I am listening to the Beatles who are still, in my opinion, the greatest band ever.
However, when it comes to my favorite band of all time, I think that it may very well be the Smiths.
I think that Morrissey and Marr were like two comets that collided. The fusion of Morrissey's lyrics and Marr's playing was and is irresistible to me.
Many people simply don't or don't want to get the
Smiths. As far as I'm concerned it is their loss.
You may be interested to watch this youtube I recently saw of Noel Gallagher discussing the Smiths - you can say what you like about him, but I think he does a great job of providing an insight into the Smiths through the lens of a fan's eye: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1MsuoNJQ3U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1MsuoNJQ3U)
Especially when it comes to choosing a favorite song - it IS simply too difficult, I could narrow it down to about fifty if I was under duress. . .
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC_xPzzt6IQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC_xPzzt6IQ)
This is a wonderful segment.
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Bearman, I know exactly what you are saying about music and clinical depression. Nothing I care to elaborate on here but music has done much more to help me out than any prescribed drug that I always ended up refusing to bother with or help that others tried to extend...or never bothered to extend. One of the reasons I love Shoegaze is that it's kind of like a sonic massage for me, especially live. Bet you know what I'm talking about. Such joy along with being very pleasing to the ears.
Doomie, you did the best thing by ignoring the Smiths haters. Allow them the respect of having their opinions and voicing them even if you don't agree. (I don't either!) They just don't get it when it comes to The Smiths. Apparently, both you and I don't get it when it comes to that song you mentioned you thought was starting. (I really hate that song!)
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Is this story from 1987?
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
So I was at Wonderland tonight, and this group of four people started ranking on The Smiths... loudly going on about how boring they are, and how much they suck, and so on and so forth. I thought about saying something, but they were being so loud that it seemed like they were just looking to piss someone off, and I didn't want to give them the satisfaction.
Now, I can imagine how some people might not find the Smiths to be their cup of tea, but it still seems to me like anyone of intellect and taste would recognize that they were something special, even if they didn't personally care for them... am I wrong here?
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I don't find the Smiths as godly as some but far be it from me to deny their influence, gotta love DC pseudo-hipster jackasses with nothing of substance to say thinking their "wit" will get them laid.
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Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
...gotta love DC pseudo-hipster jackasses with nothing of substance to say thinking their "wit" will get them laid.
Hey, what have I ever done to you? :mad:
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
...gotta love DC pseudo-hipster jackasses with nothing of substance to say thinking their "wit" will get them laid.
Hey, what have I ever done to you? :mad: [/b]
If the super narrow Puma running shoe fits...
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Idiots are what they are, & have a right to express their wack ass opinions. The Smiths are the shit. Period. As a songwriter, Moz has his own lane. I can't begin to compare him to another artist in music history. (That I've heard anyway.) I in the past couple of years have really discovered their greatness, & my library is all the better for it. Johnny Marr's rock god status has also been cemented for quite some time now. I always thought of Morrissey (before really sitting down & picking apart what the man was saying) as the poster child of "gloom & doom" if you will. But once I sat down & listened, I realized the man is fucking hilarious. I don't think he takes himself as seriously as most would think. An asexual (I think) fellow crooning (think an alt-rock/depressed Barry Manilow) about alienation in a tongue-in-cheek fashion over crunchy rock riffs. Who woulda thunk it??? Fuckin' genius if I've ever seen it . . .
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this doesnt have anything to do with the smiths, per se ... but i loved hearing morrissey talk about the dolls in the movie - new york doll. how great it was when he got them to perform in 2004 at his festival (which im completely blanking out on the name). its definitely worth checking out, if only to see Moz.
besides - arthur kane was pretty fascinating. its on IFC this month so anyone can see it if they have cable.
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Originally posted by Fadger:
This is an interesting topic. As I write I am listening to the Beatles who are still, in my opinion, the greatest band ever.
Ugh, where did you come from?
The most amazing thing about the Smiths was that from the time they released "Hand in Glove" (May 1983) to the time Johnny Marr spoke the words: "I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs" (August 1987) it was four years and three months.
All they accomplished: Four albums, seventeen singles (eight(!!!) of which weren't on a proper studio album) and millions of fans whose lives were changed.
Fifty-one months and they were gone. You can place their entire career in the time between Radiohead albums.
Johnny Marr was only 23 when they BROKE UP!
Amazing what they accomplished in that time.
Brian
P.S. Best Smiths song? "Paint a Vulgar Picture." Second Place: "Asleep" Third: "I Keep Mine Hidden" or "Half a Person."
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I generally found The Smiths to be a lot of fun. The lyrics uncover a darker side and they certainly dabbled in meloncholy but Marr's guitar and Morrissey's singing was often upbeat and infectious. e.g. Louder Than Bombs was a fun summery kind of record.
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Mobius, "Louder Than Bombs" screams late spring/early summer 1987 for me. A really pivotal time in my life, but I can put that record on and I can almost literally smell fresh cut grass from my dad mowing the lawn, low 70's weather and a gentle breeze blowing through my window while I'm hanging out in my bedroom.
My top 10 favorite Smiths songs (though it could easily be 20:
1) Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
2) Bigmouth Strikes Again
3) I Know It's Over
4) Shoplifters of the World Unite
5) Back to the Old House (acoustic version from "Hatful of Hollow")
6) Panic
7) This Charming Man
8) What Difference Does It Make? (also from "Hatful")
9) I Want the One I Can't Have
10) Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by Fadger:
This is an interesting topic. As I write I am listening to the Beatles who are still, in my opinion, the greatest band ever.
Ugh, where did you come from?
The most amazing thing about the Smiths was that from the time they released "Hand in Glove" (May 1983) to the time Johnny Marr spoke the words: "I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs" (August 1987) it was four years and three months.
All they accomplished: Four albums, seventeen singles (eight(!!!) of which weren't on a proper studio album) and millions of fans whose lives were changed.
Fifty-one months and they were gone. You can place their entire career in the time between Radiohead albums.
Johnny Marr was only 23 when they BROKE UP!
Amazing what they accomplished in that time.
Brian
P.S. Best Smiths song? "Paint a Vulgar Picture." Second Place: "Asleep" Third: "I Keep Mine Hidden" or "Half a Person." [/b]
My suggestion about the Beatles is perhaps not as contentious as you would think. They sold a few records, changed a few scenes in their time you know.
Especially when you go on about all the records and non-album singles that the Smiths released (though I agree it is indeed a commendable record). Hmmmm, what other British four man band did something similar except for a period twice as long? Twelve original albums, one double EP, and twenty-two singles (featuring mostly otherwise unavailable material) in eight years? An amazing band.
Anyway I do love the Smiths and I think Morrissey's solo stuff is terribly underrated - I still enjoy Southpaw Grammar and Maladjusted immensely. Vauxhall & I is a phenomenal record. His live show is still top class.
Morrissey has always said that the Cilla Black stuff was bollocks in terms of being the reason that Marr broke up the band - we'll never know I suspect, but I imagine there was more to it than that.
As for Paint a Vulgar Picture being a favourite Smiths track, I do like it, but when I scroll through my Ipod and see World of Morrissy, My Early Burglary Years etc I find it a bit hard to take in addition to the tie pins that Moz has been selling at recent shows - tacky badge anyone?
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My Smiths story is similar to Bearman's. While I'd gotten Hatful of Hollow as a gift early in my senior year of high school, it was my sophomore year of college that cemented what the band meant to me. I was SO depressed, and would lay on my bed in my dorm room with the blinds drawn and listen to the Smiths catalogue to that point over and over. It truly lifted my spirit - not to giddiness or happiness, but out of the really deep blackness. Listening to them I thought, if someone as intelligent and sensitive and utterly cool as Morrissey could feel as sad and depressed as I, than clearly it's a 'normal state of being' for any person. That meant a lot, to at least be able to compartmentalize my 19-year old funk for what it was, yet another stage of growth or, hell, just being.
I agree that I don't know how someone could hate the Smiths across the board. Although, I will say, there are genres of music that I viscerally dislike -- it's not happening in any logic part of my brain at all, it just drives me nuts (when even bands I love verge into Jam land, I go berserk). So, perhaps that can happen to other people as well -- it's a more emotional reaction, they just don't 'get it.'
On a more general front, I have this recurring thought often in the middle of a really great sont: "Man, just one song can fill me with so much happiness for 4 minutes that it's literally enough to live for."
Clearly, for some of us, music is our drug. ;)
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This is the response I got to Doom's initial post from a friend of mine who LOVES music. We love many of the same bands, but we each diverge into territory the other doesn't get (he into the Dead, me into really sweep pop). He's not a Smiths fan, but I never knew if he actively disliked them, or just didn't care for them:
eh--i personally always found the Smiths a little dull also. i've never really gotten their appeal. but i decided to give them more of a listen before the Moz show, and thought it was a little better and would have been interested to see them live.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by Fadger:
This is an interesting topic. As I write I am listening to the Beatles who are still, in my opinion, the greatest band ever.
Ugh, where did you come from?[/b]
:roll:
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
this doesnt have anything to do with the smiths, per se ... but i loved hearing morrissey talk about the dolls in the movie - new york doll. how great it was when he got them to perform in 2004 at his festival (which im completely blanking out on the name). its definitely worth checking out, if only to see Moz.
besides - arthur kane was pretty fascinating. its on IFC this month so anyone can see it if they have cable.
That would be Meltdown darling, and stay on topic!
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thanks darlin'! (i knew youd know and/or respond). well my response did involve morrissey - and we all know morrissey's love for the dolls. perhaps its the way we all feel about the smiths - on topic enough, right? at least i didnt go on about the beatles :D
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I have a much different The Smiths story. I bought my first The Smiths album 2 summers ago, at age 28. I was always aware of them but had never heard so much as a song. I thought they were great instantly and wished I had been listening to them in the awkward teenage years. I just felt like sharing that.
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Learn to love me
Assemble the ways
Now, today, tomorrow and always
My only weakness is a list of crime
My only weakness is ... well, never mind, never mind
Oh, shoplifters of the world
Unite and take over
Shoplifters of the world
Hand it over
Hand it over
Hand it over
Learn to love me
And assemble the ways
Now, today, tomorrow, and always
My only weakness is a listed crime
But last night the plans of a future war
Was all I saw on Channel Four
Shoplifters of the world
Unite and take over
Shoplifters of the world
Hand it over
Hand it over
Hand it over
A heartless hand on my shoulder
A push - and it's over
Alabaster crashes down
(Six months is a long time)
Tried living in the real world
Instead of a shell
But before I began ...
I was bored before I even began
Shoplifters of the world
Unite and take over
Shoplifters of the world
Unite and take over
Shoplifters of the world
Unite and take over
Shoplifters of the world
Take over
Pure. Fuckin'. Genius.
Note: Sorry to swagger-jack your trademark, B. :D
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
The most amazing thing about the Smiths was that from the time they released "Hand in Glove" (May 1983) to the time Johnny Marr spoke the words: "I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs" (August 1987) it was four years and three months.
All they accomplished: Four albums, seventeen singles (eight(!!!) of which weren't on a proper studio album) and millions of fans whose lives were changed.
Fifty-one months and they were gone. You can place their entire career in the time between Radiohead albums.
Johnny Marr was only 23 when they BROKE UP!
Amazing what they accomplished in that time.
FYI, you are lauding a band that released albums before you were born (if you were alive, you were very young - too young to make them relevant to your life). why are you defending this golden oldie shit? how can it possibly compete with AFI or fallout boy?
confused.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
how can it possibly compete with AFI or fallout boy?
confused. [/b]
A Fire Inside, My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy all ROCK! They are awesome.
Brian
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hmm, i want to join the Smiths debate, but i cant since i probably couldnt name 3 songs they sing.
i was 10 when they broke up.
but what i can say is that if these kids were in their early to mid twenties, then its possible that, being younger than i, they knew no one who listened to or like the smiths.
sometimes music needs to be happening at the time for people to really get their real importance of musical talent. sure, the beatles and the beach boys influenced TONS of bands that i listen to today but their music was always just classic songs to me, never really songs that tie memories or remind me of my life at all.
i think this is why "rip-off" bands like Interpol, White stripes, wolfmother, etc exist because sure, you could just put in some sabbath, but that was someone else's band, every generation needs bands to call their own. I find it hard to believe that anyone who puts in RATM's debut album and listens to it for the first time today will get the same feeling from it as some of us who did in 1993.
and lastly, i am guilty of denouncing the talent of world famous musicians after i've had a few too many so this could be the simple reason.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
every generation needs bands to call their own.
Amen. I agree 100%. I'm going to get that tattooed on my forehead.
Brian
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
The most amazing thing about the Smiths was that from the time they released "Hand in Glove" (May 1983) to the time Johnny Marr spoke the words: "I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs" (August 1987) it was four years and three months.
All they accomplished: Four albums, seventeen singles (eight(!!!) of which weren't on a proper studio album) and millions of fans whose lives were changed.
Fifty-one months and they were gone. You can place their entire career in the time between Radiohead albums.
sounds like Blink 182 to me!!!!
perhaps if the smiths did this sort of stuff now, they would be a "flash in the pan"???
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by le sonick:
every generation needs bands to call their own.
Amen. I agree 100%. I'm going to get that tattooed on my forehead.
Brian [/b]
how about on your forearm, you may live to regret a forehead tat!
:D
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You're more sarcastic than I am!
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
how can it possibly compete with AFI or fallout boy?
confused. [/b]
A Fire Inside, My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy all ROCK! They are awesome.
Brian [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
You're more sarcastic than I am!
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
how can it possibly compete with AFI or fallout boy?
confused. [/b]
A Fire Inside, My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy all ROCK! They are awesome.
Brian [/b]
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My sincerity is often mistaken for sarcasm. That's my curse. I really do like those bands. Whether I have gladioli hanging out of my back pocket or not...
Brian
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I thought that was the case...my sarcasm-meter was surprisingly still when I read that post.
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You're at least 20 years younger than I am!
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
You're more sarcastic than I am!
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
how can it possibly compete with AFI or fallout boy?
confused. [/b]
A Fire Inside, My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy all ROCK! They are awesome.
Brian [/b]
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My sincerity is often mistaken for sarcasm. That's my curse. I really do like those bands. Whether I have gladioli hanging out of my back pocket or not...
Brian [/b]
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Note: Sorry to swagger-jack your trademark, B. :D
NO CE PROBLEMA, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT....
A sad fact widely known
The most impassionate song
To a lonely soul
Is so easily outgrown
But don't forget the songs
That made you smile
And the songs that made you cry
When you lay in awe
On the bedroom floor
And said : "Oh, oh, smother me Mother..."
No ...
Rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring
La ...
The passing of time
And all of its crimes
Is making me sad again
The passing of time
And all of its sickening crimes
Is making me sad again
But don't forget the songs
That made you cry
And the songs that saved your life
Yes, you're older now
And you're a clever swine
But they were the only ones who ever stood by you
The passing of time leaves empty lives
Waiting to be filled (the passing ...)
The passing of time
Leaves empty lives
Waiting to be filled
I'm here with the cause
I'm holding the torch
In the corner of your room
Can you hear me ?
And when you're dancing and laughing
And finally living
Hear my voice in your head
And think of me kindly
No ...
Rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring
La ...
No ...
Rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring
Do you
Love me like you used to ?
Oh ...
Rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring
La ...
You're clever
Everybody's clever nowadays
You're clever
Everybody's clever nowadays
You are sleeping
You do not want to believe
You are sleeping
You do not want to believe
You are sleeping
You do not want to believe
You are sleeping
....KEEP IT ON POINT.
b. :cool:
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I give up on this board because it became boring and then I have a little lurk one day and come across this topic!
The Smiths - Johnny Marr, a wonderful musician with his own style that nobody has been able to mimick even though some have tried. Mike Joyce a barely average drummer and Andy Rourke an average bassist on a good day. You basically have a one man band who could've been been accompanied by anyone who can tune a bass or hold up a drumstick. Then you have Morrissey who is one of the most gifted and underrated songwriters of any generation. Between Morrissey and Marr you have a songwriting partnership who should be recognized alongside Lennon/McCartney and John/Taupin, but they aren't because of the subject matter of many of his lyrics. The only difference is Morrissey will write a song about uncomfortable subjects that other songwriters either won't or can't - November Spawned a Monster for example. (Post Smiths I know, but still Morrissey)
What do The Smiths mean to me? Well, being the same age as Morrissey and growing up in Manc I really connect with many of his songs. Headmasters Ritual and Suffer Little Children to name just two. At the time, I loved The Smiths but never truly appreciated them. I remember watching them on Top of the Pops singing "Heavens Knows I'm Miserable Now" with my dad sat in his favourite chair smoking like a trooper and making remarks like "Look at that pillock with the twig sticking out of his arse" (if you haven't seen it youtube it) If only my dad knew what that he could've been the subject of a Morrissey song himself, with his victorian views and dry and sometimes hurtful wit.
What The Smiths meant to me as a younger man was that other people feel this angst, fear, depression and helplessness that I felt as a teenager trying to become a man, and it was a great comfort to know that someone was writing songs about it so I didn't feel such a freak. What they meant to me as an adult was totally different. When I first moved to the USA I was hopelessly homesick, which was weird seeing as I'd not really lived anywhere other than on a warship for the previous 10+ years. I think it had more to do with being alone in America with this weird accent that the locals couldn't understand (think Gallagher brothers and the necessity for subtitles when they get interviewed stateside) and this very strange culture shock that I wasn't expecting whatsoever. I was newly married to an American who either didn't get it, or didn't want to get the fact I was finding it hard to settle in. What did I do? I did what I always did during difficult times, I turned to my music collection. All of a sudden The Smiths became something totally different to me. They became 'home' to me. I would sit and listen to them constantly and be back home in manc, and being in the weird country surrounded by these fake people telling me to have a nice day when they really didn't give a toss if a double decker bus killed me as soon as I walked out of the shop, didn't matter so much anymore. I also tried stop trying so hard to fit in and just started to be myself again, instead of just another foriegner trying to become a psuedo American.
I am one of these people who reads the lyrics before playing an album so very much influenced by the words. I admire Bowie - Mike Scott and other great songwriters, but none write songs that touch me like Morrissey. Paul Heaton comes close because he also writes about northern England...kind of a Moz lite if you know what I mean.....
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So, Dylan and the Beatles suck, but My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy are "awesome"....
I thought one had to be at least 13 to post on this board.
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
You're more sarcastic than I am!
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
how can it possibly compete with AFI or fallout boy?
confused. [/b]
A Fire Inside, My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy all ROCK! They are awesome.
Brian [/b]
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My sincerity is often mistaken for sarcasm. That's my curse. I really do like those bands. Whether I have gladioli hanging out of my back pocket or not...
Brian [/b]
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in the midst of the sniping, I think this post must receive recognition for showing the power that great music can hold... far more than entertainment.
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
I give up on this board because it became boring and then I have a little lurk one day and come across this topic!
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
in the midst of the sniping, I think this post must receive recognition for showing the power that great music can hold... far more than entertainment.
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
I give up on this board because it became boring and then I have a little lurk one day and come across this topic!
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Agreed. Very nice post. Although it was a little boring (just kidding).
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http://thischarmingcharlie.tumblr.com/
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Anyone ever get the feeling that Atomicfront and Brian Wallace are the same person? I feel like over the years, there's always been one poster whose every opinion and every post was just perfectly tailored to outrage people. I honestly can't believe Atomicfront is a real person who is representing himself genuinely, in the same way I couldn't believe BW was a real person. Is this all a Dupek experiment?
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That is wonderful.
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Is this all a Dupek experiment?
ding ding!
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Anyone ever get the feeling that Atomicfront and Brian Wallace are the same person? I feel like over the years, there's always been one poster whose every opinion and every post was just perfectly tailored to outrage people. I honestly can't believe Atomicfront is a real person who is representing himself genuinely, in the same way I couldn't believe BW was a real person. Is this all a Dupek experiment?
I don't know Brian Wallace is but I think you should take a look in the mirror before posting stuff like this.
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they used to say the same thing about me
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And I don't know why you even bring him up he seems to like the Smiths. I like the Smiths and I have all their albums on vinyl. Of course, I am 48 and I might be living in the past
And I don't know why my names to be brought up in threads that don't even relate to me. The constant trolling on this board is ruining it. Just talk about the subject at hand or don't post in a thread.
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dupek, brian, julian, atomicfront
what do they all have in common . . . we talk about them.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
The most amazing thing about the Smiths was that from the time they released "Hand in Glove" (May 1983) to the time Johnny Marr spoke the words: "I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs" (August 1987) it was four years and three months.
All they accomplished: Four albums, seventeen singles (eight(!!!) of which weren't on a proper studio album) and millions of fans whose lives were changed.
Fifty-one months and they were gone. You can place their entire career in the time between Radiohead albums.
Johnny Marr was only 23 when they BROKE UP!
Amazing what they accomplished in that time.
FYI, you are lauding a band that released albums before you were born (if you were alive, you were very young - too young to make them relevant to your life). why are you defending this golden oldie shit? how can it possibly compete with AFI or fallout boy?
confused.
Looks like Sweetcell has been trolling for a long time.
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dupek, brian, julian, atomicfront
what do they all have in common . . . we talk about them.
Seems like some people on this board think anyone who has an opinion different than their own should be ridiculed. Why does it matter if someone likes AFI and Fall Out Boy. I was at festivals where these bands played during the era of the original post and their shows were packed. So many people liked them. Maybe it is age thing.
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So I was at Wonderland tonight, and this group of four people started ranking on The Smiths... loudly going on about how boring they are, and how much they suck, and so on and so forth. I thought about saying something, but they were being so loud that it seemed like they were just looking to piss someone off, and I didn't want to give them the satisfaction.
Now, I can imagine how some people might not find the Smiths to be their cup of tea, but it still seems to me like anyone of intellect and taste would recognize that they were something special, even if they didn't personally care for them... am I wrong here?
I think a lot of people disliked the Smiths when they first came out. I had a friend who like all the other bands of the day: Cure, Depeche Mode, Siouxsie & the Banshees, PIL, etc but hated the Smiths said they were depressing. I remember taking a road trip with my dad back around 1986 and he liked everything else I played but when I put on the Smiths he said that Morrissey couldn't sing and told me to turn it off. Not everyone likes the same thing. Which is a good thing.
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i like people that get mad at stuff . . . then do nothing about it. slaves are slaves everyday.