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Title: Enjoy!
Post by: Barcelona on December 17, 2004, 08:45:00 am
This is why soccer is the most popular sport on earth.
 
 Last sixteen in the Uefa Champions League. Check these games! Is this the best Champions League ever?
 
 FC Barcelona - Chelsea
 Manchester United - AC Milán
 Bayern Munich - Arsenal
 Real Madrid - Juventus Turin
 Oporto - Inter Milan
 
 The other three draws
 
 Werder Bremen   - O. Lyon
 Liverpool   - B. Leverkusen
 PSV    - Mónaco
Title: Re: Enjoy!
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2004, 09:56:00 am
I'm thinking the last 8
 
 Man Utd   :D  
 FC Barcelona
 Bayern Munich
 Juventus
 Inter Milan
 Lyon
 Leverkusen
 Monaco
 
 Had Chelski not met Barcelona....probably the strongest team in Europe this year.....I would've put them in the last eight also, Arseholes don't have the spine for the big games, and Liverpool have no right being in the last 16 in the first place.
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Post by: Guiny on December 17, 2004, 11:04:00 am
"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
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Post by: Venerable Bede on December 17, 2004, 11:32:00 am
how does that make it the most popular sport on earth??
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Post by: nkotb on December 17, 2004, 11:41:00 am
Bayern Munich - Arsenal
 Oporto - Inter Milan
 Werder Bremen - O. Lyon
 
 Duh.
 
 
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  how does that make it the most popular sport on earth??
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Post by: thirsty moore on December 17, 2004, 11:50:00 am
Hi-oh!
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Post by: Barcelona on December 17, 2004, 12:03:00 pm
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  how does that make it the most popular sport on earth??
Have you ever been outside the US?
Title: Re: Enjoy!
Post by: Barcelona on December 17, 2004, 12:06:00 pm
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Originally posted by O'Mankie:
  I'm thinking the last 8
 
 Man Utd    :D  
 FC Barcelona
 Bayern Munich
 Juventus
 Inter Milan
 Lyon
 Leverkusen
 Monaco
 
 Had Chelski not met Barcelona....probably the strongest team in Europe this year.....I would've put them in the last eight also, Arseholes don't have the spine for the big games, and Liverpool have no right being in the last 16 in the first place.
the games against AC Milan are going to be really tough. However, I still think Manchester United has a good chance given how old the Milan defenders are.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on December 17, 2004, 12:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
   
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  how does that make it the most popular sport on earth??
Have you ever been outside the US? [/b]
numerous times. . .i used to have a blast in tijuana. . that donkey show is sumthin else, lemme tell ya.
 
 but to more directly answer your question, i've been to england, france, spain, italy, austria, czech republic, morocco, australia, canada and mexico. . .
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Post by: Guiny on December 17, 2004, 03:33:00 pm
I've been to South Korea, Panama, Bermuda, Saudi Arabia and Germany and not once heard a conversation about soccer.
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Post by: thirsty moore on December 17, 2004, 03:40:00 pm
Get off of the base man...
 
 
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  I've been to South Korea, Panama, Bermuda, Saudi Arabia and Germany and not once heard a conversation about soccer.
Title: Re: Enjoy!
Post by: on December 18, 2004, 10:04:00 am
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
 I've been to South Korea, Panama, Saudi Arabia...
Ah, you've seen all of U.N.C.L.E.'s garden spots.
Title: Re: Enjoy!
Post by: Barcelona on December 19, 2004, 10:47:00 am
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
     
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  how does that make it the most popular sport on earth??
Have you ever been outside the US? [/b]
numerous times. . .i used to have a blast in tijuana. . that donkey show is sumthin else, lemme tell ya.
 
 but to more directly answer your question, i've been to england, france, spain, italy, austria, czech republic, morocco, australia, canada and mexico. . . [/b]
I agree that the first response was pretty poor. By the way, except for maybe Canada and Australia, in all the remaining countries you mentioned, what they call football is not the football played in the US, it is what you call soccer.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on December 20, 2004, 11:41:00 am
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  By the way, except for maybe Canada and Australia, in all the remaining countries you mentioned, what they call football is not the football played in the US, it is what you call soccer.
do you think i'm that stupid?  i know what soccer is called in europe.  i'm asking, how is what you listed proof that soccer is the most popular sport in the world?  i don't see any japanese or south american teams there. . .how can i be sure that it is indeed the most popular sport in the world when all the teams are european?  
 
 oh, and my first answer was quite funny, especially if you've been to TJ.
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Post by: Barcelona on December 20, 2004, 11:58:00 am
No, I don't think that you are stupid, this is why your first question (how does that make it the most popular sport on earth??) seemed strange to me given that you tend to avoid this type of comments and support with arguments any idea you express in the forum. Now, I don't have any data to support my comment referring to soccer as the most popular sport on earth, but I think it is pretty obvious.
 
 The teams there were all european because I was talking about the European Champions League, the equivalent to the Libertadores Cup in South America and others in Asia and Africa.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on December 20, 2004, 12:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  No, I don't think that you are stupid, this is why your first question (how does that make it the most popular sport on earth??) seemed strange to me given that you tend to avoid this type of comments and support with arguments any idea you express in the forum. Now, I don't have any data to support my comment referring to soccer as the most popular sport on earth, but I think it is pretty obvious.
 
i guess i'm just asking a rhetorical question. . .but how is listing teams in the UEFA champions league proof that soccer is the most popular sport in the world?  for example, if i listed the playoff match-ups from the baseball playoffs this year, how would that be any different than what you said?  the reasoning is exactly the same. . .after all, mexico, dominican republic, cuba, japan, and south korea all have baseball leagues as well.
 
 i'm not arguing whether soccer is the most popular sport, but how what you said is proof that it is.
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Post by: vansmack on December 20, 2004, 02:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
 
 
 The teams there were all european because I was talking about the European Champions League, the equivalent to the Libertadores Cup in South America and others in Asia and Africa.
To play the part of the devils advocate because there are a ton of other facts that prove soccer is the world's most popular sport, but most of Europe could fit in the states, so by showing the Spain is playing England is playing Germany is playing Itlay, etc, does nothing to prove your point.  It's similar to saying New York is playing LA is playing Boston equalling 3,000 miles and hunders of millions of people.
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Post by: vansmack on December 20, 2004, 02:32:00 pm
I like:
 
 Barca
 United
 Arsenal
 Real Madrid
 Inter Milan
 Lyon
 Leverkusen
 PSV
Title: Re: Enjoy!
Post by: Barcelona on December 20, 2004, 10:58:00 pm
My comment came from the fact that I am working in South America and it was pretty amazing the coverage that papers and tv stations gave to the draws in the last sixteen.
 
 Yes, countries like Mexico, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Panama, Venezuela have their own national baseball leagues and I believe they play a regional tournament with their best teams, but this is a pretty small sample of Latin American countries. On the other hand, you have the Libertadores Cup with teams from all around South America (except for the small three countries north of Brazil) and Mexico (teams from other countries in Central America don't play but that is not because soccer is not popular, other reasons). You also have continental cups in Africa and Asia. This is pretty difficult to find in other sports, except maybe in tennis with the Davis Cup. But anyway, I wasn't trying to argue that soccer is more popular than any of the four main sports in the US. It is just that it is pretty nice how countries all over the world follow the European Champions League, something that doesn't happen with other sports.
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Post by: on December 20, 2004, 11:13:00 pm
Soccer is for Bear Guys. (http://thebearguys.com/aboutus.htm)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 21, 2004, 09:30:00 am
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  No, I don't think that you are stupid, this is why your first question (how does that make it the most popular sport on earth??) seemed strange to me given that you tend to avoid this type of comments and support with arguments any idea you express in the forum. Now, I don't have any data to support my comment referring to soccer as the most popular sport on earth, but I think it is pretty obvious.
 
i guess i'm just asking a rhetorical question. . .but how is listing teams in the UEFA champions league proof that soccer is the most popular sport in the world?  for example, if i listed the playoff match-ups from the baseball playoffs this year, how would that be any different than what you said?  the reasoning is exactly the same. . .after all, mexico, dominican republic, cuba, japan, and south korea all have baseball leagues as well.
 
 i'm not arguing whether soccer is the most popular sport, but how what you said is proof that it is. [/b]
Football/soccer, is in fact the most popular sport in the world. Anyone who doesn't know that must be a fucking moron.  :D
Title: Re: Enjoy!
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 21, 2004, 09:37:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  I like:
 
 Barca
 United
 Arsenal
 Real Madrid
 Inter Milan
 Lyon
 Leverkusen
 PSV
Smackie, you disapoint me....how could you? A good United fan will always favour the opponent to Arseholes, even if it's DC United or some other god-awful abortion of a team.  ;)  
 
 Seriously....just look at their domestic record....they can't beat the top teams of England, let alone Europe....look at this season alone, scraped a draw with Chelski, got stuffed by United, got stuffed by Liverpool, managed to squeeze a draw with Bolton. Henryetta is invisible when playing a team of any quality. He's the most overrated player in Europe if you ask me.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on December 21, 2004, 11:44:00 am
42. . .this isn't worth it anymore.
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Post by: vansmack on December 22, 2004, 04:20:00 am
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Originally posted by O'Mankie:
  Smackie, you disapoint me....how could you? A good United fan will always favour the opponent to Arseholes, even if it's DC United or some other god-awful abortion of a team.   ;)  
 
 Seriously....just look at their domestic record....they can't beat the top teams of England, let alone Europe....look at this season alone, scraped a draw with Chelski, got stuffed by United, got stuffed by Liverpool, managed to squeeze a draw with Bolton. Henryetta is invisible when playing a team of any quality. He's the most overrated player in Europe if you ask me.
I know Manc, but don't confuse betting on and rooting for - it's Bayern F'ing Munich for Christ's sake!  Just the thought of playing an English team makes them quiver.  Their record against English squads is abysmal and I just don't see them beating the Arseholes.  It's not about Arsenal as much as it's about Munich.
 
 As for Barca however, I think they will be the most creative team Chelski has played against and will cause them fits.  This is a damn good Barca team.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 22, 2004, 10:56:00 am
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  42. . .this isn't worth it anymore.
SEEEEE YA! Go to some hitty-runny sleepfest thread or something.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on December 22, 2004, 11:05:00 am
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Originally posted by O'Mankie:
   
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  42. . .this isn't worth it anymore.
SEEEEE YA! Go to some hitty-runny sleepfest thread or something. [/b]
i continue to be amazed at how you criticize baseball for being boring, yet you are a soccer fan.  
 
 as for why i deleted my post, barcelona still hasn't answered my first question, and i don't feel like keeping this thing going.