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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ggw on October 02, 2003, 10:01:00 am
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The 5 Royales
Black Sabbath
Jackson Browne
The Dells
George Harrison
Lynyrd Skynyrd
John Cougar Mellencamp
The O'Jays
Gram Parsons
Prince
Bob Seger
The Sex Pistols
Patti Smith
The Stooges
Traffic
ZZ Top
Most notable absence -- Van Halen (reportedly due to bad blood between HoF head Jann Wenner and David Lee Roth).
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Most notable absence -- Van Halen (reportedly due to bad blood between HoF head Jann Wenner and David Lee Roth).
Johnny Rotten doesn't even want the Pistols in the HoF because of all these insane personal politics. And I agree with him. After all, what the hell does it mean, except you get to reunite for the big show.
Oy. The RnR HoF is to awards as Rolling Stone is to music magazines!
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i predict
Jackson Browne
George Harrison
Lynyrd Skynyrd
John Cougar Mellencamp
Traffic
ZZ Top
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
i predict
Jackson Browne
George Harrison
Lynyrd Skynyrd
John Cougar Mellencamp
Traffic
ZZ Top
How many are chosen each year?I got to see the BJM at the hall of fame.If you ever decide to go check it out,see when there are bands playing.Tix for those shows are usually under 10 bucks and it gives you entrance to the museum,which makes it even cheaper than just paying to see the hall by itself.Go figure!
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Originally posted by SPARX:
How many are chosen each year?
5-7
Harrison is a gimme.
Black Sabbath or Sex Pistols would get in just for the publicity it would generate.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by SPARX:
How many are chosen each year?
5-7
Harrison is a gimme.
Black Sabbath or Sex Pistols would get in just for the publicity it would generate. [/b]
Now would be a great time to induct the Stooges.Not only are they worthy,but recently reformed.Boy,that would blow the roof off that place!!
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Not my choices but the ones that I predict:
Black Sabbath
George Harrison
John Cougar Mellencamp
Lynyrd Skynyrd
The O'Jays
Traffic
ZZ Top
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Not my choices but the ones that I predict:
Black Sabbath
George Harrison
John Cougar Mellencamp
Lynyrd Skynyrd
The O'Jays
Traffic
ZZ Top
Good picks, but remove Mellencamp and add Prince...IMO.
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Not my choices but the ones that I predict:
Black Sabbath
George Harrison
John Cougar Mellencamp
Lynyrd Skynyrd
The O'Jays
Traffic
ZZ Top
Good bet, although I would delete ZZ top and add Bob Seger, because there's always one that makes you go, "huh!" :confused:
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FINALLY !! Bob Seger... Its about Damn Time.
Charles
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Thank you for finding this thread. I was JUST thinking about it this morning and wondering what the results were. Has it happened yet and if so, who got inducted?
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lets go sabbath, sharon would do the acceptence speech cause ozzy is her bitch. hopefull then we get to see a BS performance
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And the winners are.....
Jackson Browne
the Dells
George Harrison
Prince
Bob Seger
Traffic
ZZ Top
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
And the winners are.....
Prince
At least the best of the list got in
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
And the winners are.....
Jackson Browne
the Dells
George Harrison
Prince
Bob Seger
Traffic
ZZ Top
Certainly not names that belong in my hall of fame, except for George Harrison and Prince maybe.
The band that opened for Bad Brains last night did a cover of "Tush" by ZZ Top. It was one of my all-time concert going low points. Just try to imagine it your head....yes it was that bad.
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i like zztop...they're not one of the best bands ever, but they put on a good show
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Where are the nominations? I can't find any news articles on the announcement.
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four for six... i guess all those chevy ads paid off
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Originally posted by Bagster:
Where are the nominations? I can't find any news articles on the announcement.
http://www.rockhall.com/home/default.asp (http://www.rockhall.com/home/default.asp)
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Prince is insanely talented....period.
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After digesting this for an evening I'm left with one question:
BOBFUCKINGSEGER? No wonder Lydon doesn't want the Pistols in the hall. Bob Seger is some of the worst vomit the music industry has ever spewed. Now I don't really expect them to put folks like The Stooges in the hall. They are just not that bright. But Bob Seger? What has he done for the world besides sell beer and pickup trucks?
Yet another shining example of why I have no faith or respect for these types of institutions.
Too funny....Bob Seger...
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Here's my predictions;
Don't care
Boring
So what
Yawn
Not bothered
No interest
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Dude, Seger put Motown on the musical map.
Live Bullet introduced Bob Seger to a wide audience, revealing a rocker of unbridled passion and a songwriter of considerable talent. Prior to its release, Seger had been toiling away, releasing seven albums and touring constantly ever since his debut scraped the national consciousness in 1968. The psychedelicized days of Ramblin' Gamblin' Man are long gone on Live Bullet, leaving behind a rocker who loved the Stones for their toughness, Dylan for his honesty, and Chuck Berry for his narrative â?? and one who found his own sound when the Silver Bullet Band came into their own through countless tours. Live Bullet was recorded live at Detroit's Cobo Hall, in front of a passionate, loving hometown audience spurring him into a great performance. The song selection relies heavily on Beautiful Loser, yet it dips into the previous albums enough to prove that Seger had been delivering consistently as a songwriter for years. But what really sold Live Bullet is how these terrific songs are delivered with a ferocious, committed intensity. This might not be much more than a simple rock & roll album, but it's one of the best of its kind, establishing Seger, in the eyes of skeptics, as a first-rate performer and writer. Here, "Heavy Music," "Get Out of Denver," "Turn the Page," and "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man" all become hard rock classics, as does the band itself. It's a rare occasion when a double live album captures an artist at an absolute peak, while summarizing his talents, and that's exactly what Live Bullet does.
Originally posted by chaz:
After digesting this for an evening I'm left with one question:
BOBFUCKINGSEGER? No wonder Lydon doesn't want the Pistols in the hall. Bob Seger is some of the worst vomit the music industry has ever spewed. Now I don't really expect them to put folks like The Stooges in the hall. They are just not that bright. But Bob Seger? What has he done for the world besides sell beer and pickup trucks?
Yet another shining example of why I have no faith or respect for these types of institutions.
Too funny....Bob Seger...
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I agree, Bob Seger blows. But he has sold 31.5 million records, which puts him into the top 50 all-time.
http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topartists.asp (http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topartists.asp)
The criteria shouldn't just be sales, but it figures in pretty heavily, as the HoF wants to get people in the door.
There's another theory that was posted on another board. The HoF is just brown-nosing the major labels to get display items, artist appearances, cross-promotion, etc....
Jackson Browne -- Warner Bros.
the Dells -- Universal
George Harrison -- EMI
Prince -- Warner Bros.
Bob Seger -- EMI -- new hits album out
Traffic -- Universal
ZZ Top -- Warners has just/is about to release a boxed set
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Rhett, you're a fantastic plagarist (http://www.artistdirect.com/store/artist/album/0,,160761,00.html) !
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OK, so that's what UBL or Allmusic.com or whoever thinks about Bob Seger....and we all know what experts they are on rock 'n roll ;)
Say it with me brothers and sisters! Bob Seger sucks! The rock and roll hall of fame sucks!
I like Mankie's nominations: don't care, boring etc.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Dude, Seger put Motown on the musical map.
Live Bullet introduced Bob Seger to a wide audience, revealing a rocker of unbridled passion and a songwriter of considerable talent. Prior to its release, Seger had been toiling away, releasing seven albums and touring constantly ever since his debut scraped the national consciousness in 1968. The psychedelicized days of Ramblin' Gamblin' Man are long gone on Live Bullet, leaving behind a rocker who loved the Stones for their toughness, Dylan for his honesty, and Chuck Berry for his narrative â?? and one who found his own sound when the Silver Bullet Band came into their own through countless tours. Live Bullet was recorded live at Detroit's Cobo Hall, in front of a passionate, loving hometown audience spurring him into a great performance. The song selection relies heavily on Beautiful Loser, yet it dips into the previous albums enough to prove that Seger had been delivering consistently as a songwriter for years. But what really sold Live Bullet is how these terrific songs are delivered with a ferocious, committed intensity. This might not be much more than a simple rock & roll album, but it's one of the best of its kind, establishing Seger, in the eyes of skeptics, as a first-rate performer and writer. Here, "Heavy Music," "Get Out of Denver," "Turn the Page," and "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man" all become hard rock classics, as does the band itself. It's a rare occasion when a double live album captures an artist at an absolute peak, while summarizing his talents, and that's exactly what Live Bullet does.
Originally posted by chaz:
After digesting this for an evening I'm left with one question:
BOBFUCKINGSEGER? No wonder Lydon doesn't want the Pistols in the hall. Bob Seger is some of the worst vomit the music industry has ever spewed. Now I don't really expect them to put folks like The Stooges in the hall. They are just not that bright. But Bob Seger? What has he done for the world besides sell beer and pickup trucks?
Yet another shining example of why I have no faith or respect for these types of institutions.
Too funny....Bob Seger...
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Why thanks. It took me awhile to catch on to how to use the copy and paste function like others on the board do, but now that I've figured it out, I'm going to start using it more often.
Now if I could just figure out how to post pics like some of y'all do!
Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Rhett, you're a fantastic plagarist (http://www.artistdirect.com/store/artist/album/0,,160761,00.html) !
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This year's entries should be Van Halen and Prince. End of story.
Among many reasons this is a bullshit museum is that Van Halen would not be considered for political reasons. What a joke.
Lawyers in Love is a great song and everything, maybe one of the best ever (pause for laughter) but Jackson Browne is, um, arguably a stretch.
I actually like Segar. Don't listen to him, but I'll watch a Segar video when it comes on VH1 classic. Despite huge album sales I think he's underrated and just a notch below Springsteen.
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Why isn't Gram Parsons already in? He's the most influential, though probably the worst selling.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why thanks. It took me awhile to catch on to how to use the copy and paste function like others on the board do, but now that I've figured it out, I'm going to start using it more often.
Now if I could just figure out how to post pics like some of y'all do!
It's a good idea to provide a link if you're going to quote someone else. Italics and quotation marks are useful too.
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You don't give people on this board very much credit for having brains. I think people here are smart enough to figure out that a big long essay on the virtues of Bob Seger was taken from another source, and not diligently typed out by yours truly.
But thanks anyway for the tip.
Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why thanks. It took me awhile to catch on to how to use the copy and paste function like others on the board do, but now that I've figured it out, I'm going to start using it more often.
Now if I could just figure out how to post pics like some of y'all do!
It's a good idea to provide a link if you're going to quote someone else. Italics and quotation marks are useful too. [/b]
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Rhett, your netiquette skills suck ass. No wonder you work for the government.
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Sorry I don't fit your standards. It's a chatboard, not a work project.
Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Rhett, your netiquette skills suck ass. No wonder you work for the government.
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perhaps someone needs to read this (http://www.redballoon.net/~snorwood/quote-rant.shtml)
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Perhaps someone needs to read this:
http://www.i-depth.com/P/c/c00003.frm.a.msg/324.html (http://www.i-depth.com/P/c/c00003.frm.a.msg/324.html)
:p
Originally posted by mark e smith:
perhaps someone needs to read this (http://www.redballoon.net/~snorwood/quote-rant.shtml)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Perhaps someone needs to read this:
http://www.i-depth.com/P/c/c00003.frm.a.msg/324.html (http://www.i-depth.com/P/c/c00003.frm.a.msg/324.html)
:p
I thought that was more your thing! :p
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sorry I don't fit your standards. It's a chatboard, not a work project.
This presumes that whenever someone reads anything Rhett posts possessing anything even remotely intelligent, they have to wonder: Is it Rhett, or is it Memorex? The standard answer shall be, "Google it first".
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Rhett, your netiquette skills suck ass. No wonder you work for the government.
do you mean his "Rhettiquette"?
haha.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Memorex?
you might like this: Ella (http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae479.cfm)
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A long narrative on what a wonderful artist Bob Seger is "intelligent"? Dude, I posted that review out of sarcasm. Get with the program, boy.
Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sorry I don't fit your standards. It's a chatboard, not a work project.
This presumes that whenever someone reads anything Rhett posts possessing anything even remotely intelligent, they have to wonder: Is it Rhett, or is it Memorex? The standard answer shall be, "Google it first". [/b]
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Rhett, your netiquette skills suck ass. No wonder you work for the government.
hardly a comment I'd expect to hear from someone who has a propensity for posting nonsense and potentially dangerous links...
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
A long narrative on what a wonderful artist Bob Seger is "intelligent"? Dude, I posted that review out of sarcasm. Get with the program, boy.
Sarcasm??? It's difficult to tell with your posting habits, because you're usually such a cryptic dickweed. And don't call me boy! It's sir to you.
<img src="http://members.nuvox.net/~sfagan/funny/whiteboy.jpg" alt=" - " />
Originally posted by Yes Man:
and potentially dangerous links...
Dangerous??? How so?
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I guess the jury is still out with this board on whether I wear the pants or am the "yes man"...
How suspenseful!
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If a post of mine about music has more than three sentences to it, 99.9% of the time it's lifted from the internet. Though work affords me the opportunity to post short, not well thought out comments about music or whatever, I generally don't have the time to play amateur music critic like some board folks.
I guess the examples you give in how to behave cryptically and often nonsensically are sinking in, and I am turning into you Mr Dupe!
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There you go changing the subject again. You committed one of your endless breaches of netiquette. I called you on it. End of story.
Instead of gracefully falling on your sword, you pull a Sean Hannity:
<Rhett>"When found in the wrong, steer the topic away from Rhett."</Rhett>
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Dude, Seger put Motown on the musical map.
I think Motown put Motown on the musical map :p
Not defending Mr Segar, but being in High School during the time when Live Bullet ruled the Detroit Radio Waves it was hard not to be exposed to his music. "Night Moves" was a bit like Pet Sounds for me. I even caught a sow at one his historic 6 night stands concerts at Cobo Hall. Of course fast forward to college and really discovering new wave completely erased the memories of the Silver Bullet Band...
I suspect if one digs around in his early indie releases you'll find one or two classic tracks, "Heavy Music" being one great track. Of course he also released under the name Beach Bums, the anti-war protester song "Ballad of the Yellow Beret". He was airing his displeasure with the Vietnam draft dodgers of the time. The song was forced off the market by Barry Sadler.
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What is this netiquette crap you speak of?
First they want to regulate a woman's right to choose. Then they want to regulate who can get married. Now they even want to regulate how people post things on informal net chat boards.
Whatever happened to good old punk rock anarchy? Let's smash these silly rules people are trying to apply to internet chatboards.
Being punk rock shouldn't be limited to reading back issues of Maximum Rock and Roll and wearing $250 John Paul Gautier sweaters with your Doc Martens. Punk rock should be about smashing the rules and regulations that society puts on us, goddamnit!
Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
There you go changing the subject again. You committed one of your endless breaches of netiquette. I called you on it. End of story.
Instead of gracefully falling on your sword, you pull a Sean Hannity:
<Rhett>"When found in the wrong, steer the topic away from Rhett."</Rhett>
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
What is this netiquette crap you speak of?
Whatever happened to good old punk ?
Well then, to use your terminology...you have just been punk'd, bitch. Now shut up! And go make me a sandwich.
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that good old punk is dead..... :(
and "bitch!" would have sounded right after the sandwitch part...
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Originally posted by flawd101:
that good old punk is dead..... :(
before you were even born, dear flawd...
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sadly....
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Bob Seger: Token low talent performer to make other that are such thikn they actually have a shot. He player the pop music of his era at best. His music is the type that every time I hear it I quickly remember why I own none of his CDs.
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
Bob Seger: Token low talent performer to make other that are such thikn they actually have a shot. He player the pop music of his era at best. His music is the type that every time I hear it I quickly remember why I own none of his CDs.
Hey Rat Bastard, have you been drinking today? :p
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From the list:
The 5 Royales - Never heard of, seem to be this years token 50's band.
Black Sabbath - Should be there, their music has stood the test of time.
Jackson Browne - As a musician or for writing. IIRC he co-wrote some Eagles classics like Running on Empty and was on the Simpsons (not sure if that is a plus anymore). Musically, had a good run for about 10 years. Positive, recorded live from Merriweather, negative, almost caused the collapse of College Park concerts (SEE Productions) with his show there.
The Dells - Another 50s group that has been forgotten.
George Harrison - As a soloist I guess he did some big stuff in the early 70s, but really not that much, if he didn't die recently and wasn't a Beatle first I doubt he would have made it. Remember he is already in as a Beatle.
Lynyrd Skynyrd - They should be there, not my music, but heck they have a genre that they helped create.
John Cougar Mellencamp - I don't really think he belongs. If he makes it why not every other pop thing (e.g. Brian Adams).
The O'Jays - Disco sucks.
Gram Parsons - As a musician or producer? As the latter I would be for it as the former, not really.
Prince - Of course. He has done so much, and is the only real competition to Michael Jackson in the quirkiness field.
Bob Seger - Bleh. I guess my problem is that his music has not aged well, sure it was popular back in the 70s but so what, other than Chevy commercials what has survived of his legacy?
The Sex Pistols - Glen Matlock was at the Hall of Fame this summer for something so why not. They deserve to be there, as their is already a display that is almost all them at the place.
Patti Smith - On the fence here. Maybe she should maybe not. Has some great songs, was big in the punk movement, and still can kick it out. Would rather it be the whole group as Lenny Kay is the man.
The Stooges - Should be there.
Traffic - Another act whose music has faded. Really see them as just another band.
ZZ Top - They should be there. They rock, they have a unique sound that is very recognized, and they like hot rods.
Been to the museum once, and what amazes me is how some of these artists above have big displays already, so what does the induction do above that?
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
From the list:
George Harrison - As a soloist I guess he did some big stuff in the early 70s, but really not that much, if he didn't die recently and wasn't a Beatle first I doubt he would have made it. Remember he is already in as a Beatle.
[snip]
The Stooges - Should be there.
I'm not really sure Harrison should be in there as a solo artist. I like his solo stuff (what I've heard), but was it really important or influential enough to put him in the hall of fame? If they're gonna put him in, they're going to have to put Ringo in too, and that's gonna have a lot of people chuckling.
It's a crime The Stooges aren't in there yet.