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Title: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: lily1 on December 09, 2003, 10:03:00 am
peeps..i'm looking to buy 1-2 albums of each artist as gifts and would be keen to know which you think are the best albums. i'd like to avoid buying imports only because i'm really tight on cashola right now. i'd like to get these ordered asap.
 
 idlewild
 
 cinerama
 
 josh rouse
 
 radiohead (anything but httt)
 
 waterboys (i think fisherman's blues is a given but wasn't sure what you thought. mankie, this should be right up your alley)
 
 
 thanks everyone!
 
 *wonders if this thread will turn from suggestions to debating, once again, if the bends or kid a is the best radiohead album*
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: ratioci nation on December 09, 2003, 10:11:00 am
idlewild (don't care for them much but I guess 100 Broken Windows
 
 cinerama (Disco Volante and Torino)
 
 josh rouse (I pretty much only like Dressed Up Like Nebraska, have not kept up with him though)
 
 radiohead (anything but httt) (Ok Computer and The Bends)
 
 waterboys  (only heard one so no comment)
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: mankie on December 09, 2003, 10:49:00 am
I think my favorite Waterboys album is "Room to Roam", but that is also the most 'folksy' one, for want of a better word.
 
 "Fishermans blues" and "This is the sea" are safe bets, but I would suggest "Live Adventures" which is recordings from shows in Ireland, Scotland, England and Holland. Not only is it a really good mix of the Waterboys over the years, there's also some interesting covers thrown in...Prince's Purple rain, Dylans Death is not the end and Springsteen/Patti Smiths Because the night.
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Post by: ggw on December 09, 2003, 10:57:00 am
Idlewild -- 100 Broken Windows or The Remote Part
 
 Waterboys -- Fishermans Blues or get World Party -- Goodbye Jumbo
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: brennser on December 09, 2003, 10:59:00 am
idlewild - I prefer the remote part to 100 broken windows
 
 cinerama - gosh, tough choice - I tend to like all their stuff - I think va va voom is the most accessible whereas torino is most like the weddoes
 
 josh rouse - dunno
 
 radiohead (anything but httt) - ok computer
 
 waterboys (i think fisherman's blues is a given but wasn't sure what you thought. mankie, this should be right up your alley) - again lots of good choices, personally I would go for either the remastered version of The Pagan Place or This is the sea - also the best of is called the whole of the moon and contains a fairly representative sample of their work (although it inexplicably leaves off savage earth heart)
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: mankie on December 09, 2003, 11:16:00 am
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Idlewild -- 100 Broken Windows or The Remote Part
 
 Waterboys -- Fishermans Blues or get World Party -- Goodbye Jumbo
WHAT THE FLYING FUCK DOES THAT PILE OF SHIT WORLD PARTY HAVE TO DO WITH THE WATERBOYS, APART FROM THE FACT THAT ONE FORMER MEMBER WHO HAD LESS THAN NO TALENT, WALLENGER, THOUGHT HE COULD DO BETTER THAN THE WATERBOYS SO FORMED HIS OWN BAND....AND HOW SUCCESSFUL WERE THEY? HUH, HUH ,HUH???
 
 Put that fucking message in your box and shove it up your arse.
 
 Ignore him Lily, he's just an idiot who was trying to impress with his knowledge...when all he did was go to amazon.com and typed Waterboys then looked at the "people who bought this also bought...." section
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: lily1 on December 09, 2003, 02:34:00 pm
mank, does live adventures have steve the fiddler or is it sans steve?
 
 
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Originally posted by mankie:
  I think my favorite Waterboys album is "Room to Roam", but that is also the most 'folksy' one, for want of a better word.
 
 "Fishermans blues" and "This is the sea" are safe bets, but I would suggest "Live Adventures" which is recordings from shows in Ireland, Scotland, England and Holland. Not only is it a really good mix of the Waterboys over the years, there's also some interesting covers thrown in...Prince's Purple rain, Dylans Death is not the end and Springsteen/Patti Smiths Because the night.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: ggw on December 09, 2003, 02:38:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
   
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Idlewild -- 100 Broken Windows or The Remote Part
 
 Waterboys -- Fishermans Blues or get World Party -- Goodbye Jumbo
WHAT THE FLYING FUCK DOES THAT PILE OF SHIT WORLD PARTY HAVE TO DO WITH THE WATERBOYS, APART FROM THE FACT THAT ONE FORMER MEMBER WHO HAD LESS THAN NO TALENT, WALLENGER, THOUGHT HE COULD DO BETTER THAN THE WATERBOYS SO FORMED HIS OWN BAND....AND HOW SUCCESSFUL WERE THEY? HUH, HUH ,HUH???
 
 Put that fucking message in your box and shove it up your arse.
 
 Ignore him Lily, he's just an idiot who was trying to impress with his knowledge...when all he did was go to amazon.com and typed Waterboys then looked at the "people who bought this also bought...." section [/b]
Like shooting fish in a barrel.......
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: on December 09, 2003, 02:41:00 pm
Who don't you two just kiss and make up?  I'm mending fences by sending you a virtual French kiss (http://www.sendingfun.com/frenchkiss/french.swf).  Enjoy.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: lily1 on December 09, 2003, 03:32:00 pm
oh, and which delgados? hate is a given but what about domesticque and the others?
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: brennser on December 09, 2003, 03:43:00 pm
the great eastern
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: mankie on December 09, 2003, 03:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by lily1:
 [QB] mank, does live adventures have steve the fiddler or is it sans steve?
 
 
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 Yes, Steve Wickham has been with Mike Scott from day one.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: mankie on December 09, 2003, 03:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
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Like shooting fish in a barrel....... [/QB]
You and your redneck first amendment issues...
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: ggw on December 09, 2003, 03:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
 You and your redneck first amendment issues...
2nd Amendment:
 
 the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: brennser on December 09, 2003, 04:00:00 pm
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Yes, Steve Wickham has been with Mike Scott from day one.  
at the risk of
 
 a) being excessively nitpicky, and
 
 b) incurring the wrath of mankie
 
 thats not true - wickham played on one song from this is the sea and then joined the band on a full time basis...see below
 
 
 JUNE 1985     Recording for "This Is The Sea" continues in various London studios.
 
 JULY 1985     Gifted Irish fiddler, STEVE WICKHAM plays on a demo for his friend Sinead O'Connor at Karl Wallinger's home studio. Mike Scott hears the tape and invites Steve to play on "The Pan Within" on the nearly completed new album.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on December 09, 2003, 05:50:00 pm
Idlewild -I still love 100 Broken Windows the most. It's more edgy than The Remote Part.
 
 Cinerama -I prefer Torino
 
 Josh Rouse -Under Cold Blue Stars is a pleasant mellow album. I don't know his other stuff.
 
 Radiohead -I've been listening to The Bends a lot lately. But OK Computer is also an excellent choice.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: on December 09, 2003, 06:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by lily1:
  idlewild
 
 cinerama
 
 josh rouse
 
 radiohead (anything but httt)
 
 waterboys  
Sorry...not a sausage.  BONUS POINTS: I have heard of Radiohead.  I've just never heard them.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: Bags on December 09, 2003, 06:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
  Idlewild -I still love 100 Broken Windows the most. It's more edgy than The Remote Part.
 
I agree, but I don't think you can go wrong with either.  Idlewild and Soundtrack of Our Lives may be my two favorite personal finds for this year.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: walkman on December 09, 2003, 11:07:00 pm
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
  Idlewild -I still love 100 Broken Windows the most. It's more edgy than The Remote Part.
 
 Cinerama -I prefer Torino
 
 Josh Rouse -Under Cold Blue Stars is a pleasant mellow album. I don't know his other stuff.
 
 Radiohead -I've been listening to The Bends a lot lately. But OK Computer is also an excellent choice.
I second 100 Broken Windows and Torino.  As for Radiohead: Bends, OK Comp & Kid A are all essential.  But if you don't like HTTT, maybe you should skip Kid A.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on December 10, 2003, 12:15:00 am
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Originally posted by Bagster:
  I agree, but I don't think you can go wrong with either.  Idlewild and Soundtrack of Our Lives may be my two favorite personal finds for this year.
Agreed on the two albums. I am so pleased that you found Idlewild! Since they are my favorite band, I, of course, feel that everyone should have all of their albums...  ;)
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: markie on December 10, 2003, 12:20:00 am
Screw it all and just get Torino by Cinerama.
 
 actually, despite that being my favourtie of the whole lot. The Bends and Ok Computer are both great albums, and I am slowly coming round to the realisation that the remote part is better than 100 broken windows. That took a long time and a heavy heart to admit.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: Bags on December 10, 2003, 09:36:00 am
Just in case anyone forgot that folks here on the forum take this sh*t very, very seriously.  (No slam, I'm a full on nut-job, especially to the 'regular people' out in the world blithely getting by with the Counting Crows greatest hits holiday release -- not that there's anything wrong with that!!).
 
 
 
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
  I am slowly coming round to the realisation that the remote part is better than 100 broken windows. That took a long time and a heavy heart to admit.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: mankie on December 10, 2003, 10:46:00 am
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Originally posted by brennser:
   
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Yes, Steve Wickham has been with Mike Scott from day one.  
at the risk of
 
 a) being excessively nitpicky, and
 
 b) incurring the wrath of mankie
 
 thats not true - wickham played on one song from this is the sea and then joined the band on a full time basis...see below
 
 
 JUNE 1985     Recording for "This Is The Sea" continues in various London studios.
 
 JULY 1985     Gifted Irish fiddler, STEVE WICKHAM plays on a demo for his friend Sinead O'Connor at Karl Wallinger's home studio. Mike Scott hears the tape and invites Steve to play on "The Pan Within" on the nearly completed new album. [/b]
No worries about incurring any wrath, I reserve that strictly for morons.
 
 It was a bit nitpciky though...I was in a hurry to get out of here and just trying to make the point Wickham has been with Mike Scott for years.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: brennser on December 10, 2003, 10:53:00 am
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No worries about incurring any wrath, I reserve that strictly for morons.
 
and like me, you're probably still in a good mood from Man U's highly efficient 2-0 win over Stuttgart yesterday!
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: bearman🐻 on December 10, 2003, 11:50:00 am
"Room to Roam" is a GREAT Waterboys CD. I highly recommend that one.
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: mankie on December 10, 2003, 11:59:00 am
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Originally posted by brennser:
   
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No worries about incurring any wrath, I reserve that strictly for morons.
 
and like me, you're probably still in a good mood from Man U's highly efficient 2-0 win over Stuttgart yesterday! [/b]
Yes indeed...and this is just about the time of year when United start to pick up their game so you'll see them start pulling away in the premiership now...better get back to music though before we get chastised for hijacking another thread and turning it into footie.  ;)  
 
 Room to Roam is my personal fave, but would you recommend it to someone looking to get a good example of The Waterboys over the years? By that I simply mean it leans very heavy to the Waterboys in their folk mode so Lily wouldn't hear their more rock oriented work, That's why I suggested Live Adventures because it covers the gammit(sp?).
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Post by: brennser on December 10, 2003, 12:09:00 pm
yeah because they've released just so much stuff over the years I think some type of compilation is best, that way if the person prefers the folky stuff they can go and buy fishermans blues and room to roam, ditto for the big music stuff
 
 I will have to track down a copy of Room to Roam and give it a listen - I never bothered to buy it because it was absolutely panned by all the critics in ireland when it came out first
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: Celeste on December 10, 2003, 12:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
 That's why I suggested Live Adventures because it covers the gammit(sp?).
Just think, if you used dictionary.com to look stuff up whenever you didn't know how to spell a word, you might learn more words properly, as well as other meanings of the words and their origins, "gamut" is particularly interesting:
 
 gam·ut    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (gmt)
 n.
 A complete range or extent: a face that expressed a gamut of emotions, from rage to peaceful contentment.
 Music. The entire series of recognized notes.
 
 [Middle English, the musical scale, from Medieval Latin gamma ut, low G  : gamma, lowest note of the medieval scale (from Greek, gamma. See gamma) + ut, first note of the lowest hexachord (after ut, first word in a Latin hymn to Saint John the Baptist, the initial syllables of successive lines of which were sung to the notes of an ascending scale CDEFGA: Ut queant laxis resonare fibris Mira gestorum famuli tuorum, Solve polluti labii reatum, Sancte Iohannes).]
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 10, 2003, 12:27:00 pm
Are you sure these are the bands that would make the recipients the most happy? Try to find out what gifts would make the recipient the most happy, not just give cd's of bands you like.
 
    I already ended up with a fucking Eric Clapton/BB King collaboration as a gift, and it's not even Xmas yet.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by lily1:
  peeps..i'm looking to buy 1-2 albums of each artist as gifts and would be keen to know which you think are the best albums. i'd like to avoid buying imports only because i'm really tight on cashola right now. i'd like to get these ordered asap.
 
 idlewild
 
 cinerama
 
 josh rouse
 
 radiohead (anything but httt)
 
 waterboys (i think fisherman's blues is a given but wasn't sure what you thought. mankie, this should be right up your alley)
 
 
 thanks everyone!
 
 *wonders if this thread will turn from suggestions to debating, once again, if the bends or kid a is the best radiohead album*
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: mankie on December 10, 2003, 12:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by Celeste:
   
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Originally posted by mankie:
 That's why I suggested Live Adventures because it covers the gammit(sp?).
Just think, if you used dictionary.com to look stuff up whenever you didn't know how to spell a word, you might learn more words properly, as well as other meanings of the words and their origins, "gamut" is particularly interesting:
 
 gam·ut    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (gmt)
 n.
 A complete range or extent: a face that expressed a gamut of emotions, from rage to peaceful contentment.
 Music. The entire series of recognized notes.
 
 [Middle English, the musical scale, from Medieval Latin gamma ut, low G  : gamma, lowest note of the medieval scale (from Greek, gamma. See gamma) + ut, first note of the lowest hexachord (after ut, first word in a Latin hymn to Saint John the Baptist, the initial syllables of successive lines of which were sung to the notes of an ascending scale CDEFGA: Ut queant laxis resonare fibris Mira gestorum famuli tuorum, Solve polluti labii reatum, Sancte Iohannes).] [/b]
I know all the words I need to know to get through life, thank you. For example, "Kiss my arse smart arse"  :D  
 
 Mind you, if you'd like to come over and be my English teacher...Ms. Celeste  ;)
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Post by: Celeste on December 10, 2003, 01:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
  Mind you, if you'd like to come over and be my English teacher...Ms. Celeste   ;)  
How could you let a "doodle" teach an Englishman his own mother tongue? I bet you'd be an incorrigable pupil!
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: mankie on December 10, 2003, 01:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by Celeste:
   
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Originally posted by mankie:
  Mind you, if you'd like to come over and be my English teacher...Ms. Celeste    ;)  
How could you let a "doodle" teach an Englishman his own mother tongue? I bet you'd be an incorrigable pupil! [/b]
Oh  Celeste dear...no interest in the education, just the after school activities!  :eek:
Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: lily1 on December 10, 2003, 01:27:00 pm
fair question--there's a reason behind the particular list--its part of a greater list of concerts i've seen with a particular person who hasn't bought a decent cd in years but really enjoyed the shows listed so i thought, what the hell, i'll get a cd or two from each of the shows (there are a few other concerts but i have either copied those cds or he wasn't totally enthralled by them). good idea?
 
 
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Are you sure these are the bands that would make the recipients the most happy? Try to find out what gifts would make the recipient the most happy, not just give cd's of bands you like.
 
    I already ended up with a fucking Eric Clapton/BB King collaboration as a gift, and it's not even Xmas yet.
 
 
   
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 10, 2003, 02:16:00 pm
Well when you explain it that way, I'd have to say yes, very good idea.
 
 
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Originally posted by lily1:
  fair question--there's a reason behind the particular list--its part of a greater list of concerts i've seen with a particular person who hasn't bought a decent cd in years but really enjoyed the shows listed so i thought, what the hell, i'll get a cd or two from each of the shows (there are a few other concerts but i have either copied those cds or he wasn't totally enthralled by them). good idea?
 
 
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Are you sure these are the bands that would make the recipients the most happy? Try to find out what gifts would make the recipient the most happy, not just give cd's of bands you like.
 
    I already ended up with a fucking Eric Clapton/BB King collaboration as a gift, and it's not even Xmas yet.
 
 
     
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Title: Re: help me with my christmas shopping...
Post by: Bags on December 10, 2003, 03:04:00 pm
Excellent idea.