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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 11, 2005, 12:53:00 pm
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I'm working on a review of their LP, and I had a question for you guys ... am I insane for hearing american emo influences throughout this? i'm not saying it's an emo clone or anything, but i hear plenty of jimmy eat world ... especially on track 10 "So Here We Are", that song could have easily been on JEW's Clarity... track 7 "This Modern Love" is another jimmy eat world song ...
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I've heard a good half-dozen of their songs and I'd have to say I don't agree with your realizaton at all.
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
I've heard a good half-dozen of their songs and I'd have to say I don't agree with your realizaton at all.
thanks for your input... have you heard tracks 7 and 10?
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i don't hear any american emo. i've listened to the album many times. but then again, i've never willingly subjected myself to jimmy eat world. nothing on the bloc party album sounds like that "little girl your in the middle" song, though. what "silent alarm" does really remind me of at times is long fin killie, a scottish band from the 90s that had some of the same smartypants/art-rock tendencies.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
i don't hear any american emo. i've listened to the album many times. but then again, i've never willingly subjected myself to jimmy eat world. nothing on the bloc party album sounds like that "little girl your in the middle" song, though. what "silent alarm" does really remind me of at times is long fin killie, a scottish band from the 90s that had some of the same smartypants/art-rock tendencies.
that's because "the middle" doesn't sound like jimmy eat world ... i was referring to JEW's mid-to-late 90s stuff
if not JEW/Get Up Kids emo, than what does "So Here We Are" (track 10) sound like to you? it has the repetitive ringing guitars, yearning voice, chugging rhythm, pretty much everything.
(not being an asshole, honestly curious)
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Write your own review.
It will be much easier for us to critic it if it's your honest opinions, not opinions you had validated/invalidated by the forum.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Write your own review.
It will be much easier for us to critic it if it's your honest opinions, not opinions you had validated/invalidated by the forum.
thanks for the tip smackie ... i like to bounce ideas off of people, and none of my friends have the album ... but i will end up writing what i think
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I've heard a good half-dozen of their songs and I'd have to say I don't agree with your realizaton at all.
thanks for your input... have you heard tracks 7 and 10?
Thanks for snappy response...I've heard "This Modern Love" and some of their earlier singles and see no correlation between Jimmy Eat World and Bloc Party. I feel Bloc Party's work is more effortlessly "pop-y" than what most American emo bands attempt. More post-punk than emo-punk, punk.
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I think Bloc Party will be outdone by The Ponys, and I have only heard 2 Ponys songs and 1 Bloc Party song
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It??s the oldest adage in rock: success breeds imitation. The massive international mainstream acceptance of nervy dance-rock groups like Franz Ferdinand and the Killers has spawned a growing legion of young bands heavily indebted to early-80s post-punk trailblazers like Wire and Gang of Four.
Armed with a cheeky moniker that evokes perestroika and discos, South London??s Bloc Party have risen to the top of this often derivative pack.
While their hyperactive debut LP ??Silent Alarm? ?? released in the US on March 22 ?? features the angular guitar riffs and driving rhythms that define their comrades, Bloc Party manages to transcend many of the clichés and pratfalls that countless similar bands encounter. The album rarely bogs down with repetitive ideas and Bloc Party refuses to take the easy route and simply rip off their predecessors.
Dynamic frontman Kele Okerere leads his lock-step rhythm section through impassioned rave-ups such as the opening track ??Like Eating Glass? and quieter ruminations like the emo-tinged ??So Here We Are? with remarkable ease for a debut album. With disaffected singers cluttering the indie landscape, Okerere??s cathartic yelps and impassioned wails propel ??Silent Alarm? to prominence.
The lead single ??Banquet? takes a page from the Franz Ferdinand playbook and seamlessly abridges the best of Bloc Party. In a perfect world, this track would thrust the band into the national spotlight. In the meantime, be happy you can still catch Bloc Party at a small venue like Black Cat on April 9.
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Writing for the City Paper now?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Writing for the City Paper now?
nah, still express.
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Not one mention of "american emo influences" or JEW rip offs. Just a subtle reference to emo. I'm disappointed in you. Take the backlash!
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I haven't heard the Bloc Party album yet (I know, I know) but a friend of mine saw them in Wales and is convinced that one of the songs is a direct ripoff of the Idlewild song When I Argue I See Shapes. She said they were great live, though.
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There is at least one huge difference between Bloc Party and any Emo IMO. Bloc party has one or two songs that are a bit on the whiny side, but just barely, whereas just about all of the mainstream emo that's around these days is all whiny, all the time. Bloc party never sound like petulant children to me. When they moan about something, they come across as actually having something to moan a bit a bout. It seems to be that emo is painting itself into a corner of only singing about frustration. There are so many more emotions than frustration that one could infuse ones music with. I've got the whole Bloc Party album and about 6 other songs and it's their diversity while maintaining a distinctive (while somewhat derivitive, but hey what isn't) sound that impresses me. Props to HoyaSaxa03, great review.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Not one mention of "american emo influences" or JEW rip offs. Just a subtle reference to emo. I'm disappointed in you. Take the backlash!
hah ... that point was really insignificant to the rest of the piece, i was just really suprised to put the bloc party CD in and hear a jimmy eat world song ... i've listened to it a few more times (track 10, "so here we are") and it's definitely it ...
but it really has no larger relevance than a "subtle reference" in a 200 word review
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
I haven't heard the Bloc Party album yet (I know, I know) but a friend of mine saw them in Wales and is convinced that one of the songs is a direct ripoff of the Idlewild song When I Argue I See Shapes. She said they were great live, though.
I can't really think of a song on Silent Alarm that sounds like a direct rip off of When I Argue I See Shapes, but every new band sounds a little like some old band or another. In my opinion, the Idlewild song isn't all that original either. That's why I liked them in the first place, they had that post punk sound when everyone else was trying to sound like Oasis and Blur.
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Sorry, "Silent Alarm" has been on repeat in the old 'pod for quite some time. Don't hear any Jimmy Eat World. "So Here We Are" in particular: The drumming is just way too good to be compared to anything by Jimmy Eat World.
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Originally posted by tenfifteen:
Sorry, "Silent Alarm" has been on repeat in the old 'pod for quite some time. Don't hear any Jimmy Eat World. "So Here We Are" in particular: The drumming is just way too good to be compared to anything by Jimmy Eat World.
Kosmo, as a closeted Jimmy Eat World fan (and i'm guessing an owner of "Clarity"), you want to weigh in here?
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haven't heard the record yet....
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Still trying to get us to write your column for you, eh?
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i dont think they really sound like Franz Ferdinand or the Killers.
and i dont think Franz Ferdinand sound like the Killers? why do people try to homogenize everything?
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Funny, I heard more British influences like James or a even Cure sensibility (something in the lead singer's voice). American emo never crossed my mind even when seeing them live.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
debut LP ??Silent Alarm? ?? released in the US on March 22
assuming your article comes out after 3/22?
I'm w/ sonick and others...don't hear any of the aforementioned references.
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Originally posted by Winter Pays For Summer:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
debut LP ??Silent Alarm? ?? released in the US on March 22
assuming your article comes out after 3/22?
I'm w/ sonick and others...don't hear any of the aforementioned references. [/b]
im assuming it comes out before/around 3/22, but i'm not the judge of that.
i also think its incredibly legitimate to tie bloc party to other 80s influenced indie dance-rock bands right now ... sure they don't sound spot on to franz or the killers, mainly because bloc party has a much more diverse sound than either of these two ... but their "dance" tracks have a similar vibe, the main riff in "banquet" is very franz
and i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about "so here we are", but to my ears it sounds like an outtake from JEW's "Clarity" (which is a very different album from "Bleed American", for all you haters out there)
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ok got a chance to hear "So We Are Here" and will have to say it could fit in on JEW's Clarity. The ringing guitars and frantic drumming do remind of some of that record. I do also hear the Cure & James in the vocals for this song.
For me there are moments on both Clarity and Bleed American which are great.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i also think its incredibly legitimate to tie bloc party to other 80s influenced indie dance-rock bands right now ... sure they don't sound spot on to franz or the killers, mainly because bloc party has a much more diverse sound than either of these two ... but their "dance" tracks have a similar vibe, the main riff in "banquet" is very franz
plus, i suppose thats what writers have to do is relate one band to as many others as possible.
you gotta spoon feed the people. plus, its easier to describe someone sound by saying "they sound like ___"
oh well.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
debut LP ??Silent Alarm? ?? released in the US on March 22
im assuming it comes out before/around 3/22, but i'm not the judge of that.
the 3/22 US release date is correct. Using the verb in past tense I was questioning...sorry had to put on the editor cap...
No one said anything bad about Jimmy Eat World. Stick to what you think and hear - no need to justify...
why do people try to homogenize everything?
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It's more than just listing similar sounding bands. I think it's quite clear that Bloc Party is part of this recent and quite prolific music trend of 2004/2005 towards the dance rock early 80s ilk.
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Originally posted by Winter Pays For Summer:
Stick to what you think and hear - no need to justify...
i'll always write what i feel and this discussion i started wasn't to make myself feel justified, i simply enjoy hashing things out with people.
my thoughts on why one might disagree with me:
a) you haven't heard clarity
b) you're protective enough to keep the dreaded emo tag from a band you like
c) you're afraid that if you like the track, you too may like jimmy eat world
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
I'm working on a review of their LP, and I had a question for you guys ... am I insane for hearing american emo influences throughout this? i'm not saying it's an emo clone or anything, but i hear plenty of jimmy eat world ... especially on track 10 "So Here We Are", that song could have easily been on JEW's Clarity... track 7 "This Modern Love" is another jimmy eat world song ...
i wouldn't say "throughout"...but i hear that "sound" pop up here and there. his singing style kinda reinforces it too at times.
i like the album. love the drums.
and track 7 reminds me of "we will become silhouettes"
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
my thoughts on why one might disagree with me:
a) you haven't heard clarity
b) you're protective enough to keep the dreaded emo tag from a band you like
c) you're afraid that if you like the track, you too may like jimmy eat world
d) you like South Park and that discredits everything else you say
e) sound-a-like band name dropping CD reviewers get on my nerves and probably just use it for a lack of a better descriptive word (note: franzy is not an adjective, and "like franz" isnt good descriptive either cause you'd have to assume everyone reading has heard them. and you know what assuming does....)
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
my thoughts on why one might disagree with me:
a) you haven't heard clarity
b) you're protective enough to keep the dreaded emo tag from a band you like
c) you're afraid that if you like the track, you too may like jimmy eat world
Nah. You somewhat stated your opinion in a question. Thus, I provided my opinion. I'm not second-guessing my answer. Anyhow, just read about them in a swanky mag at the bookstore. Funny, only one slight reference to another band "with Radiohead-written lyrics..."
The lead singer basically said most rock music these days is shite, needing to listen to Usher just for inspiration and diversity.
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Originally posted by Winter Pays For Summer:
[QB] Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
my thoughts on why one might disagree with me:
a) you haven't heard clarity
b) you're protective enough to keep the dreaded emo tag from a band you like;
c) you're afraid that if you like the track, you too may like jimmy eat world
(d) beauty is in the eye (or ear) of the beholder. I like some of Jimmy eat world's songs and I'm not afraid to tell you that because you are no more "expert" about contemporary music than I am.
BTW: I haven't heard you name one group you like independent of a few long-term board favs.
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Originally posted by Winter Pays For Summer:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
my thoughts on why one might disagree with me:
a) you haven't heard clarity
b) you're protective enough to keep the dreaded emo tag from a band you like
c) you're afraid that if you like the track, you too may like jimmy eat world
Nah. You somewhat stated your opinion in a question. Thus, I provided my opinion. I'm not second-guessing my answer. Anyhow, just read about them in a swanky mag at the bookstore. Funny, only one slight reference to another band "with Radiohead-written lyrics..."
The lead singer basically said most rock music these days is shite, needing to listen to Usher just for inspiration and diversity. [/b]
Yes, initially it was stated in the form of a question. Then I heard that one song a few more times (and it really is just one or two songs on the album, the rest of it sounds nothing like JEW) and realized the comparison to the vibe on "clarity" was dead on ... it's not a subjective response, it's a fairly objective listing of the song's qualities and how they match another song's qualities.
"Radiohead-written lyrics"? huh? does that mean thom yorke writes their songs?
by the way, I really like bloc party and their album.
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Originally posted by Sayonaro:
(d) beauty is in the eye (or ear) of the beholder. I like some of Jimmy eat world's songs and I'm not afraid to tell you that because you are no more "expert" about contemporary music than I am.
BTW: I haven't heard you name one group you like independent of a few long-term board favs.
suki, you make me laugh.
yet again you just come a bit short of understanding what i'm saying.
i like pre-2001 jimmy eat world a lot, specifically their album "clarity" ... i'm not sure where you assumed that i didn't like them ... there are a few songs on "bleed american" and "futures" that i like as well, but not as much as their earlier stuff.
just a quick tour of my ever-evolving 5 star playlist:
2PAC
AC Newman
Against Me
Allman Bros
Apples in Stereo
Beach Boys
Beatles
Belle & Sebastian
Beulah
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
Blondie
Bob Dylan
Brendan Benson
British Sea Power
Broken Social Scene
Buffalo Tom
The Clash
Creedence
The Cure
is that ok for now? i can go through D-F if you really want.
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Originally posted by Sayonaro:
[QB]
[QB] Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
my thoughts on why one might disagree with me:
a) you haven't heard clarity
b) you're protective enough to keep the dreaded emo tag from a band you like;
c) you're afraid that if you like the track, you too may like jimmy eat world
(d) beauty is in the eye (or ear) of the beholder.
what does this mean exactly? why would "(d) beauty is the the eye (or ear) of the beholder" be a reason to disagree that a bloc party song sounds like a jimmy eat world album?
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Three posts in a row. You're talking to yourself now.
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i am not sure that because ONE song on the whole album sounds like some other band you've heard, doesnt really mean you need to compare the two.
hmmm. i can picture if now.
hoya: "oh my this sounds like that JEW song, oh wow, what a band reference, I'll put that in the article!!! woohoo, not only am i hip, but i'm a hip journalist...and i went to georgetown...ooh, I'll go call my girlfriend and take her to the interpol show!"
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Originally posted by Sayonaro:
Three posts in a row. You're talking to yourself now.
good comeback.
thanks for your thoughtful response.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i am not sure that because ONE song on the whole album sounds like some other band you've heard, doesnt really mean you need to compare the two.
i'll quote from above:
quote:Originally posted by vansmack:
Not one mention of "american emo influences" or JEW rip offs. Just a subtle reference to emo. I'm disappointed in you. Take the backlash!
hah ... that point was really insignificant to the rest of the piece, i was just really suprised to put the bloc party CD in and hear a jimmy eat world song ... i've listened to it a few more times (track 10, "so here we are") and it's definitely it ...
but it really has no larger relevance than a "subtle reference" in a 200 word review
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like i said, it's a rather insignificant point, kind of funny that there's been so much backlash about it.
but thanks for offering such an informed opinion sonick, you're the best!
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
"Radiohead-written lyrics"? huh? does that mean thom yorke writes their song??
I can only hope you are choosing to act by your favorite word, "facetious".
No backlash about the band you chose to compare to Bloc Party. Sigh, I can only hope you see that eventually. Poor horse....Hey so time to move on...I hear these guys are going to the Bloc Party show!
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(They like Jimmy Eat World!)
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quoted by hoyasaxa3:suki, you make me laugh.
yet again you just come a bit short of understanding what i'm saying.
Peter: It's an old theater tradition to blame the audience for not liking the performance.
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the funny thing is , the whole topic was based on him asking us our opinions on this subject
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Originally posted by Sayonaro:
quoted by hoyasaxa3:suki, you make me laugh.
yet again you just come a bit short of understanding what i'm saying.
Peter: It's an old theater tradition to blame the audience for not liking the performance.
what? care to expound?
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Suki, yet again i'm not really sure where you're going with this ... you wrote:
(d) beauty is in the eye (or ear) of the beholder. I like some of Jimmy eat world's songs and I'm not afraid to tell you that because you are no more "expert" about contemporary music than I am.
then i responded, letting you know that you misunderstood me, then you write:
Peter: It's an old theater tradition to blame the audience for not liking the performance.
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You two need to get a room.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
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how about this, "shut the fuck up"
is that easy enough to follow?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
You two need to get a room.
hey, i'm just trying to respond to someone who is either a) incredibly cryptic or b) not quite all there or c) all of the above
at least sonick and tee always make good points and i understand what they're saying
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
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how about this, "shut the fuck up"
is that easy enough to follow? [/b]
fuck yeah motherfucker!
honestly, this is retarded.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
You two need to get a room.
I keep getting the impression that those two were married to each other and have recently divorced but things are still ugly between them....and not yet quite over.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
be happy you can still catch Bloc Party at a small venue like Black Cat on April 9.
The show is sold out.
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crap and me without a ticket... i was going to get one this am and didn't get around to it. :(
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
crap and me without a ticket... i was going to get one this am and didn't get around to it. :(
I have an extra for tomorrow night's show in SF. Care to hop on a plane?
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
be happy you can still catch Bloc Party at a small venue like Black Cat on April 9.
The show is sold out. [/b]
damn!
i'm bummed
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F*** F*** F***
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Geeze people...if you really want to go to a show, get the tickets ASAP, pay the service charge. Sure it's absurd to be paying a service charge that costs nearly as much as the actual ticket as in some cases, but just suck it up. Really good bands are worth it. Plus I think i had a service charge of only about 3 bucks for my Bloc Party ticket when I got it from a ticketmaster outlet about 2 weeks ago.
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I rarely miss getting tickets to shows, even though I always go to the clubs to pick up tickets -- on occasion, I'll tickets.com for something like Interpol or QOTSA. Sometimes, though, you miss track that a particular new band might actually sell out. Also, I've been getting burned lately, holding extra tickets, so was waiting for some concrete yes or nos from my friends. This is my one frustration, as I'm not in to going to many shows on my own, but when I pick up four tickets on spec, I sometimes and left having to sell one or two. Ggggggrrrrrr.
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With very few exceptions, I stopped buying tickets for friends a long time ago. I tell them when bands are coming and when tickets go on sale. If they really need me to buy a ticket for them, I'll probably break down and do it - but it's now their ticket. They still need to pay me for it, and it's their responsibility to try to get rid of it.
And the beauty of the board is that you're never really at shows alone. There's always someone from here you can probably hang with.
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so much will it cost to be your friend at the Bloc Party show....
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
so much will it cost to be your friend at the Bloc Party show....
I believe I still owe you for the De Novo Dahl CD, so I'd say at least a couple of drinks are on me. :)
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I know, Chutney, you're right. I'll learn someday....
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the bigger question is do you have a spare ticket for the show...
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Or two..... ;)
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oops - nope - sorry :(
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well the good news is that it appears very few tickets for this show are being "brokered" only one pair on ebay at the moment, which means it soldout to the fans. hopefully, tickets will be available outside the venue, I'm not holding my breathe though...
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Could be a long-shot, but DC Nine (http://www.dcnine.com/index.php?page=calendar) has some tickets to give away on Friday night during their Bloc Party album release party.
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Don't feel too bad, the entire U.K. tour has sold out and I didn't get any tickets either. The worst part is, the shows don't even start until October.
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Originally posted by MaLo:
Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
be happy you can still catch Bloc Party at a small venue like Black Cat on April 9.
The show is sold out. [/b]
damn!
i'm bummed [/b]
that REALLY REALLY sucks.
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Just heard one of their songs on KEXP and can now officially say that they are not in the 2% of indie rock bands that don't suck.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Just heard one of their songs on KEXP and can now officially say that they are not in the 2% of indie rock bands that don't suck.
WARNING: 'Dick With Ears' Alert!
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back in October when i heard "Banquet" and then in December when i got a copy of the EP and in Jan when i got "Silent Alarm" they were the band i had to see this year.
and i didnt get tickets, why do i live in Baltimore? i need to get out of here. (no NOT to DC)
i am sure the Black Cat crowd will be totally lame anyway.....
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
and i didnt get tickets
non? that's surprising....I bet they'll be around in the fall...
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Originally posted by Winter Pays For Summer:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
and i didnt get tickets
non? that's surprising....I bet they'll be around in the fall... [/b]
look, $12 tickets cost me like $40 after ticketmaster. its really unattractive. so i was going to go get them tonight after work, but alas, nothing.
and i cant make it home next weekend for the Toronto show. fuck it.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
look, $12 tickets cost me like $40 after ticketmaster.
Did you verify that, or are you just assuming the charges were outrageous? Black Cat tickets via TM's website usually have a $3 convenience charge per ticket. Usually, it's will-call only and no delivery fee. $3 is hardly a huge price to pay for something that will probably sell out in advance. That's less than the cost of a single beer.
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I'll probably be at the liberation dance party tomorrow and if I manage to get those free tickets to the show I'll make them available for free to board members that really want to go.
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Seeing as numerous people didn't get tickets for the Bloc Party. I wonder if we can get the powers to be to swap Virginia Coalition, at the 9:30 club,for The Bloc Party. They are only after all a local band...
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
look, $12 tickets cost me like $40 after ticketmaster.
Did you verify that, or are you just assuming the charges were outrageous? Black Cat tickets via TM's website usually have a $3 convenience charge per ticket. Usually, it's will-call only and no delivery fee. $3 is hardly a huge price to pay for something that will probably sell out in advance. That's less than the cost of a single beer. [/b]
apparently i need one of those nice DC jobs so i wont have to worry about an extra $6 everytime i wanna go out......
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My wife's place of work is hiring for two positions...she was showing me some of the cover letters and resumes people had sent in. It's amazing how poor the grammar is out there.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
look, $12 tickets cost me like $40 after ticketmaster.
Did you verify that, or are you just assuming the charges were outrageous? Black Cat tickets via TM's website usually have a $3 convenience charge per ticket. Usually, it's will-call only and no delivery fee. $3 is hardly a huge price to pay for something that will probably sell out in advance. That's less than the cost of a single beer. [/b]
apparently i need one of those nice DC jobs so i wont have to worry about an extra $6 everytime i wanna go out...... [/b]
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
apparently i need one of those nice DC jobs so i wont have to worry about an extra $6 everytime i wanna go out......
do you go to shows that will probably sell out everytime you go out?
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Originally posted by ratioci nation:
do you go to shows that will probably sell out everytime you go out?
in DC you never know. I have never once gotten tickets to a Black Cat show on the night of the event. partially cause i dont go during the week, cause i wont be home til after 1am. weekend shows almost always sell out....
also, I have been to the 930 club one too many times to see a show and its sold out at the door.
you never know with DC. Baltimore, almost nothing sells out. plus i can stop by the venue.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Seeing as numerous people didn't get tickets for the Bloc Party. I wonder if we can get the powers to be to swap Virginia Coalition, at the 9:30 club,for The Bloc Party. They are only after all a local band...
kosmo this is the best idea i've heard all week!
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Go to shows by bands other than the latest NME and Spin cover boys and you'll have better luck.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by ratioci nation:
do you go to shows that will probably sell out everytime you go out?
in DC you never know. I have never once gotten tickets to a Black Cat show on the night of the event. partially cause i dont go during the week, cause i wont be home til after 1am. weekend shows almost always sell out....
also, I have been to the 930 club one too many times to see a show and its sold out at the door.
you never know with DC. Baltimore, almost nothing sells out. plus i can stop by the venue. [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Go to shows by bands other than the latest NME and Spin cover boys and you'll have better luck.
you mean Ricky Skaggs?
no thanks.
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Clem Snide and Archer Prewitt played Black Cat recently on a Friday night. Bet that was a quality show that didn't sell out.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Go to shows by bands other than the latest NME and Spin cover boys and you'll have better luck.
you mean redneck country bands with no talent like the shows you go to?
no thanks. [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Clem Snide and Archer Prewitt played Black Cat recently on a Friday night. Bet that was a quality show that didn't sell out.
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i have 2 Clem Snide records and they are CERTAINLY not quality. they suck really bad. that dudes voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard.
really. its the country equivalent to Bright Eyes.
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perhaps i may buy tickets to see The Kills
i suppose that show will sell out too though.
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I agree that his voice is annoying, but they do put on a quality live show. I'll bet Archer Prewitt is good as well.
What is most annoying about Bright Eyes is his look and his personality, even more than his voice.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Clem Snide and Archer Prewitt played Black Cat recently on a Friday night. Bet that was a quality show that didn't sell out.
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i have 2 Clem Snide records and they are CERTAINLY not quality. they suck really bad. that dudes voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard.
really. its the country equivalent to Bright Eyes. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What is most annoying about Bright Eyes is his look and his personality, even more than his voice.
oh, the "discerning" Rhett has spoken.
but i can sort of agree. after seeing the Bravery, i would be embarassed to say i liked those foolish looking jerkoffs. (i did like them i guess, but thier live show turned me O-F-F)
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What is most annoying about Bright Eyes is his look and his personality, even more than his voice.
I completely agree.
Where does this motherfucker get the nerve to tell an audience in Texas that their state sucks and he'd never want to live there when the guy is from motherfucking Nebraska!!
He and his unreasonably bombastic music suck.
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if anyone has an extra bloc party ticket and wants an interpol ticket for friday, i would be willing to trade.
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have bloc party been played on the o.c. or something? stupid o.c. *grumble grumble*
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
its the country equivalent to Bright Eyes.
Ohmygod, I just threw up a little in my mouth.
:cool:
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I heard he moved to NYC. At least there he can keep company with 10 million other people just like him.
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What is most annoying about Bright Eyes is his look and his personality, even more than his voice.
I completely agree.
Where does this motherfucker get the nerve to tell an audience in Texas that their state sucks and he'd never want to live there when the guy is from motherfucking Nebraska!!
He and his unreasonably bombastic music suck. [/b]
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Originally posted by megs:
have bloc party been played on the o.c. or something? stupid o.c. *grumble grumble*
Not yet, but they played SF last night and I'll give a short review.
I was completely hounded outside the club for tickets. Bottom of the Hill holds 275 people, and Bloc Party easily could have doubled that. It's Popscene here tonight and they're playing again tonight - tickets are available day of only and the line will be ridiculous.
The first act was interesting at best. Dance Disaster Movement set up their gear on the floor instead of on stage and the artists ran around screaming in the faces of the fans who were there to see them. They were a little violent at times even, getting a little rowdy with the fans. I feel this practice will be short lived.
The second act was an all female band, Erase Eratta. They were not hot in the slightest, but the bass player played like Les Claypool at times and the drummer shredded. The lead singer was punkish in a lesbian kind of way, and while I didn't care much for the songs, they were decent musicians.
Bloc Party were enrgetic throughout. My favorite comment from the crowd came at the very beginning when an "black X on the left hand" (READ: underage viewer) said "Oh, he's African-American." I said "No, he's British" - completely confused the kid. Anyhow, yes, the lead singer is black.
They played a short set (approx. 35 minutes) before coming out for a 4 song encore. "Banquet" was good, but I think my favorite track was "The Answer," which they ended with. They definetely didn't lack energy, and while some songs are catchy, they don't have a lot of singles material. The drummer was on the verge of going Mitch Mitchell on many occasions but seemed a bit held back by the band, which was disappointing. They play a good mix of music, some dancable, some more mellow, but don't seem to caught up in themselves. The lead singer at least seemed to really enjoy preforming for a crowd and was fine with a little banter from the crowd. Not your typical British pompous indie rock star I guess.
They played (all from memory and not in any order so I'm likely wrong on a couple of occasions) Banquet, Helicopter, The Marshalls are Dead, She's hearing voice, Like eating glass, positive tension, this modern love, the price of gas, so here we are, luno, little thoughts, staying fat, tulips, The Answer.
I thought they were good, not great, better than the Bravery though on the "good not great scale." Well worth the $10, but I don't see myself dropping $25 or $30 to see them again unless the follow up album is brilliant.
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Come on, how can you hate him so much?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
I heard he moved to NYC. At least there he can keep company with 10 million other people just like him.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Not yet, but they played SF last night and I'll give a short review.
I was completely hounded outside the club for tickets. Bottom of the Hill holds 275 people, and Bloc Party easily could have doubled that. It's Popscene here tonight and they're playing again tonight - tickets are available day of only and the line will be ridiculous.
are you making it out to popscene? its a great *little* place, unless they're not on ritch street anymore. it seems everyone that played thurs nights in SF always went there after the show. and the bottom of the hill has always been a fun place to see shows. Of course, last time i went there a friend and i made the mistake of speaking bad about the main act, and the guys were drinking right next to us outside.. *oops* i think that may have been the candyskins and damn that was a long while back.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
The first act was interesting at best. Dance Disaster Movement set up their gear on the floor instead of on stage and the artists ran around screaming in the faces of the fans who were there to see them. They were a little violent at times even, getting a little rowdy with the fans. I feel this practice will be short lived.
Wow. I'd actually consider paying money to see that. Not a lot of money, and I'd watch from the balcony, but it could be mildly entertaining. Mainly, I'd just be secretly hoping that one the "fans" would get angry at the guy yelling in his face and slug him.
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
Of course, last time i went there a friend and i made the mistake of speaking bad about the main act, and the guys were drinking right next to us outside.. *oops* i think that may have been the candyskins and damn that was a long while back.
you spoke bad about the candyskins? tsk tsk...
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
are you making it out to popscene? its a great *little* place, unless they're not on ritch street anymore. it seems everyone that played thurs nights in SF always went there after the show. and the bottom of the hill has always been a fun place to see shows.
Tonight I am going back to Bottom of the Hill for New Model Army, passing on seeing Bloc Party two nights in a row. I don't like the "All tickets at the Door" thing on a Thursday night when there's basketball on, so I opted for seeing them at Bottom of the Hill where I was guaranteed a ticket if I purchased in advance.
Popscene is still on Ritch and Bloc Party went there last night after their show to spin some tunes. I am going to Popscene on Monday to see Death From Above 1979.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
are you making it out to popscene? its a great *little* place, unless they're not on ritch street anymore. it seems everyone that played thurs nights in SF always went there after the show. and the bottom of the hill has always been a fun place to see shows.
Tonight I am going back to Bottom of the Hill for New Model Army, passing on seeing Bloc Party two nights in a row. I don't like the "All tickets at the Door" thing on a Thursday night when there's basketball on, so I opted for seeing them at Bottom of the Hill where I was guaranteed a ticket if I purchased in advance.
Popscene is still on Ritch and Bloc Party went there last night after their show to spin some tunes. I am going to Popscene on Monday to see Death From Above 1979. [/b]
call me a little slow, or a lot slower after my day today, but im guessing popscene now has bands playing full sets. it seems that it used to be the place to be *after* the show. i remember the dandy warhols had went there, gene, blur, etc. but it was always after the show. but maybe thats what you're saying, and im slow :) is thursday night still the offical popscene night (ie brit-pop, indie)? alas, ive not been there since late 90s when i was living there, so im sure things change. glad to hear its still on ritch..was getting too popular/crowded for my blood. should have made it 21+! enjoy the shows! im insanely jealous i gave all that up.
btw, whose the dj now on thursday nights? i cant remember the guy's name who used to be there, but he was pretty cool. i went way too often!
cheers! -r
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
call me a little slow, or a lot slower after my day today, but im guessing popscene now has bands playing full sets. it seems that it used to be the place to be *after* the show. i remember the dandy warhols had went there, gene, blur, etc. but it was always after the show. but maybe thats what you're saying, and im slow :) is thursday night still the offical popscene night (ie brit-pop, indie)? alas, ive not been there since late 90s when i was living there, so im sure things change. glad to hear its still on ritch..was getting too popular/crowded for my blood. should have made it 21+! enjoy the shows! im insanely jealous i gave all that up.
btw, whose the dj now on thursday nights? i cant remember the guy's name who used to be there, but he was pretty cool. i went way too often!
cheers! -r
Thursday night at 10 is still the official pop scene night, but they've branched out a bit and sponsor shows as Popscene in different venues (for example the Kings of Leon are warming up for their U2 gig with a show at Great American Music Hall on the Friday before - this is being billed as a special Popscene night).
The sets are full sets, but each band has like one album out, so it's not longer than an hour. Late night, yes, the rockers still come by.
As far as the DJ's, I haven't the foggiest idea as I don't usually do clubs unless there is live music - I'm usually just there for the bands. There was some buzz last night about Sunday's gig with Graham Coxon and 22-20's having the orignal Popscene DJ's - Aaron, Omar, Jeremy and Eric Shea - for a 9 Year Anniversary. As I've only been here about 2 years, that meant nothing to me, but maybe it means something to you.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I am going to Popscene on Monday to see Death From Above 1979.
Are they still playing? I just read yesterday that their drummer had to have emergency surgery. Maybe they will have a replacement drummer.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by ratioci nation:
do you go to shows that will probably sell out everytime you go out?
in DC you never know. I have never once gotten tickets to a Black Cat show on the night of the event. partially cause i dont go during the week, cause i wont be home til after 1am. weekend shows almost always sell out....
also, I have been to the 930 club one too many times to see a show and its sold out at the door.
you never know with DC. Baltimore, almost nothing sells out. plus i can stop by the venue. [/b]
Sonick, you are trying to explain all this to those who won't even, or rarely, venture up to a show in Baltimore solely because of the drive, let alone any other additional pains. :roll: Shit, they complain even if a band once in a Blue Moon decides to play Baltimore and skips DC.
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Sonick, you are trying to explain all this to those who won't even, or rarely, venture up to a show in Baltimore solely because of the drive, let alone any other additional pains. :roll: Shit, they complain even if a band once in a Blue Moon decides to play Baltimore and skips DC.
what in the hell does that have to do with a $3 service charge to insure you get in to a show you really want to go to
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Originally posted by ratioci nation:
Originally posted by Jaguär:
Sonick, you are trying to explain all this to those who won't even, or rarely, venture up to a show in Baltimore solely because of the drive, let alone any other additional pains. :roll: Shit, they complain even if a band once in a Blue Moon decides to play Baltimore and skips DC.
what in the hell does that have to do with a $3 service charge to insure you get in to a show you really want to go to [/b]
Read Sonick's post of his reasons for not going.
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Sonick, you are trying to explain all this to those who won't even, or rarely, venture up to a show in Baltimore solely because of the drive, let alone any other additional pains. :roll: Shit, they complain even if a band once in a Blue Moon decides to play Baltimore and skips DC.
very true. maybe they dont realize that the drive from Baltimore to DC is the same distance as it is from DC to Baltimore.
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I thought you said it was a $3 service charge. Where are you getting $6 from? Are you including the gas money rountrip? Probably more than $3 for that.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
look, $12 tickets cost me like $40 after ticketmaster.
Did you verify that, or are you just assuming the charges were outrageous? Black Cat tickets via TM's website usually have a $3 convenience charge per ticket. Usually, it's will-call only and no delivery fee. $3 is hardly a huge price to pay for something that will probably sell out in advance. That's less than the cost of a single beer. [/b]
apparently i need one of those nice DC jobs so i wont have to worry about an extra $6 everytime i wanna go out...... [/b]
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Originally posted by ratioci nation:
what in the hell does that have to do with a $3 service charge to insure you get in to a show you really want to go to
i am trying to explain it nice and slow for you (but thats hard on the internet).
$3 service charge times 2 (cause i buy my girfriends ticket, aparently thats not common practice in DC), thats $6 every time i go out. the drinks are more expensive, the drive, the crowd at the Black cat alone is enough to make me think 6 times before going. add that to the fact that i didnt actually know it was only $3 (normally its more than $3 for other venues, *cough930cough*)
add to that, my severe loathing for ticketmaster.com (i have used them twice in the last year)
if a show is $15 a ticket in DC , i can plan on spending $45 or so, and thats before drinks.
but i dont expect you to understand. a) you're from DC, b) you dont want to.......
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
I thought you said it was a $3 service charge. Where are you getting $6 from? Are you including the gas money rountrip? Probably more than $3 for that.
i know i have said this like 5 times on this thread alone. 3 for me 3 for my girlfriend.
is it totally wierd that i buy her ticket too? dont most guys pay for thier GF's ticket? as least most of the time?????
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I can't comment for most guys, only for myself. I think every girlfriend I had in DC before my wife made more money than me, so we usually went Dutch. I make slightly more than my wife, and we have typically gone Dutch. If I made a lot more than a signficant other, then sure, I'd do most of the paying.
That being said, I am paying for both NASCAR tickets this year.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
I thought you said it was a $3 service charge. Where are you getting $6 from? Are you including the gas money rountrip? Probably more than $3 for that.
i know i have said this like 5 times on this thread alone. 3 for me 3 for my girlfriend.
is it totally wierd that i buy her ticket too? dont most guys pay for thier GF's ticket? as least most of the time????? [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
I can't comment for most guys, only for myself. I think every girlfriend I had in DC before my wife made more money than me, so we usually went Dutch. I make slightly more than my wife, and we have typically gone Dutch. If I made a lot more than a signficant other, then sure, I'd do most of the paying.
That being said, I am paying for both NASCAR tickets this year.
i didnt know it was a salary thing. i just thought it was chivalry or whatever....stupid canadians.
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I thought the chivalry thing ended with feminism and gender equality.
If you made the same amount of money as your girlfriend, yet you paid for everything, what would she be spending her earnings on?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
I can't comment for most guys, only for myself. I think every girlfriend I had in DC before my wife made more money than me, so we usually went Dutch. I make slightly more than my wife, and we have typically gone Dutch. If I made a lot more than a signficant other, then sure, I'd do most of the paying.
That being said, I am paying for both NASCAR tickets this year.
i didnt know it was a salary thing. i just thought it was chivalry or whatever....stupid canadians. [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
I thought the chivalry thing ended with feminism and gender equality.
If you made the same amount of money as your girlfriend, yet you paid for everything, what would she be spending her earnings on?
hmmm, good question!!!! haha. she makes more than me actually. (by about $1300 a year). she has lots of student loans though. and plus, most of the shows we go to are bands i like. if it was up to her to get tickets, we'd never make it ANY shows (not that i am that good at it obviously!)
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If it were up to my wife, we'd be home every night drinking expensive wine watching reality television. ;)
Good thing seeing one redneck band a month costs next to nothing anyway.
I guess I should pay her back for putting up with my band choices by giving more massages.
The shows are almost always my choice, she's more of a dinner and movies person.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
I thought the chivalry thing ended with feminism and gender equality.
If you made the same amount of money as your girlfriend, yet you paid for everything, what would she be spending her earnings on?
hmmm, good question!!!! haha. she makes more than me actually. (by about $1300 a year). she has lots of student loans though. and plus, most of the shows we go to are bands i like. if it was up to her to get tickets, we'd never make it ANY shows (not that i am that good at it obviously!) [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
If it were up to my wife, we'd be home every night drinking expensive wine watching reality television. ;)
Good thing seeing one redneck band a month costs next to nothing anyway.
I guess I should pay her back for putting up with my band choices by giving more massages.
The shows are almost always my choice, she's more of a dinner and movies person.
i guess we're more alike than either of us would like to think!
wine and massages vs. shows, sounds like my life!
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i am trying to explain it nice and slow for you (but thats hard on the internet).
$3 service charge times 2 (cause i buy my girfriends ticket, aparently thats not common practice in DC), thats $6 every time i go out. the drinks are more expensive, the drive, the crowd at the Black cat alone is enough to make me think 6 times before going. add that to the fact that i didnt actually know it was only $3 (normally its more than $3 for other venues, *cough930cough*)
add to that, my severe loathing for ticketmaster.com (i have used them twice in the last year)
if a show is $15 a ticket in DC , i can plan on spending $45 or so, and thats before drinks.
but i dont expect you to understand. a) you're from DC, b) you dont want to.......
let me explain something nice and slow to you, you have been talking about bloc party on this board probably longer than anybody else, or close to it, you probably wanted to really go see it, you could have spent $6 on those shows you really really want to see and you would be going, $6 more than if you had been able to go to the box office, I dont advocate paying the $6 every time, just on those occasionas you really want to see it
hell, in my case if I dont get the tickets I want these days, I dont really care
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With the gas money on top of it, would have been another $8.
Though his Baltimore rent is probably half what your DC rent is.
Originally posted by ratioci nation:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i am trying to explain it nice and slow for you (but thats hard on the internet).
$3 service charge times 2 (cause i buy my girfriends ticket, aparently thats not common practice in DC), thats $6 every time i go out. the drinks are more expensive, the drive, the crowd at the Black cat alone is enough to make me think 6 times before going. add that to the fact that i didnt actually know it was only $3 (normally its more than $3 for other venues, *cough930cough*)
add to that, my severe loathing for ticketmaster.com (i have used them twice in the last year)
if a show is $15 a ticket in DC , i can plan on spending $45 or so, and thats before drinks.
but i dont expect you to understand. a) you're from DC, b) you dont want to.......
let me explain something nice and slow to you, you have been talking about bloc party on this board probably longer than anybody else, or close to it, you probably wanted to really go see it, you could have spent $6 on those shows you really really want to see and you would be going, $6 more than if you had been able to go to the box office, I dont advocate paying the $6 every time, just on those occasionas you really want to see it
hell, in my case if I dont get the tickets I want these days, I dont really care [/b]
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this thread is really getting disturbing.
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Glad I got tickets:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16122&item=6520774879&rd=1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16122&item=6520774879&rd=1)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
call me a little slow, or a lot slower after my day today, but im guessing popscene now has bands playing full sets. it seems that it used to be the place to be *after* the show. i remember the dandy warhols had went there, gene, blur, etc. but it was always after the show. but maybe thats what you're saying, and im slow :) is thursday night still the offical popscene night (ie brit-pop, indie)? alas, ive not been there since late 90s when i was living there, so im sure things change. glad to hear its still on ritch..was getting too popular/crowded for my blood. should have made it 21+! enjoy the shows! im insanely jealous i gave all that up.
btw, whose the dj now on thursday nights? i cant remember the guy's name who used to be there, but he was pretty cool. i went way too often!
cheers! -r
Thursday night at 10 is still the official pop scene night, but they've branched out a bit and sponsor shows as Popscene in different venues (for example the Kings of Leon are warming up for their U2 gig with a show at Great American Music Hall on the Friday before - this is being billed as a special Popscene night).
The sets are full sets, but each band has like one album out, so it's not longer than an hour. Late night, yes, the rockers still come by.
As far as the DJ's, I haven't the foggiest idea as I don't usually do clubs unless there is live music - I'm usually just there for the bands. There was some buzz last night about Sunday's gig with Graham Coxon and 22-20's having the orignal Popscene DJ's - Aaron, Omar, Jeremy and Eric Shea - for a 9 Year Anniversary. As I've only been here about 2 years, that meant nothing to me, but maybe it means something to you. [/b]
thanks for the update! :) its been awhile since ive last been on here (super busy at work), and i just got a postcard in the email from new wave city/popscene. i used to go to popscene from 96-2001 (on and off), regularly in those earlier years. I had met Jeremy a few times and Aaron was around then as well. cant believe a 9 year anniversary! holy smokes.. means i was going when it opened. oh the memories from that place. It seems its grown quite a bit since I was living there. ill have to check it out next time im back in town!
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anyone have 1 extra ticket for bloc party? muchas gracias ...
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
anyone have 1 extra ticket for bloc party? muchas gracias ...
go here (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004854)
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haha,
or here! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16122&item=6523467734&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)
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Originally posted by white man from town:
haha,
or here! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16122&item=6523467734&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)
oh yeah. I'm sorry duh black cat. Secondnature I guess! LOL. So yeah, go there.
Outrageous prices. I think anyway.
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I didnt want my hand slapped my any of the admins for posting about a black cat show, and I won't buy on ebay ... i'll check out CL, but if anyone finds themselves with an extra ticket, please PM me ... thanks ...
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Saw this on the music for robots blog:
From Sean at R5 Productions:
"Unfortunately after moving the show from the first unitarian church to the starlight ballroom and then selling it out again, Bloc Party has postponed their Philadelphia tour date for tonight Wednesday April 6th.
Their singer Kele completely lost his voice after an exhausting touring schedule.
The band will be making up the Philadelphia date sometime in mid-June at The Starlight Ballroom."
No word yet on how this will affect the remaining New York and DC dates.
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wow what a bad time for him to lose his voice ... an appearance on letterman tonight and two NYC shows in the next couple of days ... not to mention DC ... by the way, i found a ticket, thanks guys ...
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The Letterman spot was apparently taped earlier this week, but I've got my fingers crossed etc. for Saturday...
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If the show is postponed (which would be a disappointment!), I vote that The Ponys do a full set.
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ummm i'm still looking for a ticket...
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I gave up on a ticket and am going to the DC United home opener. ALTHOUGH, if a ticket showed up, I could do both. :D And I would be grateful and shower my benefactor with beer (as long as you think that's a good thing...).
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Did anybody catch them on Letterman last night? I thought they sounded good and gave an energetic performance of Banquet. If anyone missed it I think you can find a link to the show on the Bloc Pary forum.
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Originally posted by jtleibs:
Did anybody catch them on Letterman last night? I thought they sounded good and gave an energetic performance of Banquet. If anyone missed it I think you can find a link to the show on the Bloc Pary forum.
have you heard any word on the show? are the NYC shows still on?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by jtleibs:
Did anybody catch them on Letterman last night? I thought they sounded good and gave an energetic performance of Banquet. If anyone missed it I think you can find a link to the show on the Bloc Pary forum.
have you heard any word on the show? are the NYC shows still on? [/b]
I haven't seen anything pop up on the internet, so I'm assuming everything is still on. Thank god the DC show is after the NYC dates and not before, otherwise we probably would have been postponed instead of Philly.
For those who wish to check out Bloc Party on Letterman last night go here:
Bloc Party on Letterman (http://www.blocparty.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2762&start=0)
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
ummm i'm still looking for a ticket...
Free Bloc Party tickets (http://music.for-robots.com/)
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bags and kosmo ... i have a couple of tickets availabe. send me a message if you want one!
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
If the show is postponed (which would be a disappointment!), I vote that The Ponys do a full set.
Well, the show fairies have blessed me and I got a ticket...but none of my "non-Forum" friends did, so I'll keep an eye out for you. I'll be kinda late as I'm going to the DC United opener...
THANK you, rebelchanteuse
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ditto... the zen approach to a sold out concert works again :) plus maybe a couple karma points for giving up my seat on a plane coming back from LA.
looking forward to it!
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I will keep an eye out for you (and bags)!
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
ditto... the zen approach to a sold out concert works again :) plus maybe a couple karma points for giving up my seat on a plane coming back from LA.
looking forward to it!
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Good to hear things are working out for everyone. Looks like the Forum's going to be well represented after all :)
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Yup...I'm there. It's gonna be PACKED, and I'll be all alone, so keep a lookout ;)
Okay, so:
SAT APR 9- BLOC PARTY, THE PONYS, PONY
9:30 doors
We thinkin' bands at 10, 11 and 12:00? (I should be able to get there by about 11:00)
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Looks like I'll have to wait until Coachella to see them.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Yup...I'm there. It's gonna be PACKED, and I'll be all alone, so keep a lookout ;)
Okay, so:
SAT APR 9- BLOC PARTY, THE PONYS, PONY
9:30 doors
We thinkin' bands at 10, 11 and 12:00? (I should be able to get there by about 11:00)
that's what i'm guessing ... i'm getting my ticket from someone who has to get it at will call ... does anyone know when will call opens? like could we get the ticket at 730pm even though doors don't open until 930pm?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by Bags:
[qb]... i'm getting my ticket from someone who has to get it at will call ... does anyone know when will call opens? like could we get the ticket at 730pm even though doors don't open until 930pm? [/b]
They don't open at all until 8:00, so.....sometime after 8:00, I'd say.
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I'd say you may have to wait until 9:30; looks like the person with the box of tickets won't come out until doors time -- from their website:
you can save the service charge by getting advanced tickets from our box-office between 8:00pm and midnight (cash only). Please note that you may purchase tickets from our box-office on the night of a show only after doors open for the event.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Yup...I'm there. It's gonna be PACKED, and I'll be all alone, so keep a lookout ;)
Okay, so:
SAT APR 9- BLOC PARTY, THE PONYS, PONY
9:30 doors
We thinkin' bands at 10, 11 and 12:00? (I should be able to get there by about 11:00)
Looks like I'll be alone too. But on the plus side, I've got a pair of tickets available that formerly belonged to friends that can't make the show. Send me a PM if you still need a ticket.
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I'm there, I'll be alone until around 10:30 until a friend shows up. Anyone on the board hitting up the afterparty at DC9?
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Great show... All Fun No Filler for the Bloc Party. Have become a band I will want to see live again and again. Like Sloan and Idlewild this band enjoys playing live which makes the concert going experience that much more fun to attend. The songs all sound and are treated like hit singles. The audience was singing and clapping along through out the set. While the influences leak through on the record, in concert there is a more defined Bloc Party sound. It's great they don't feel the need to replicate the record live, ragged around the edges is fine by me. Caothic drumming always a plus. Most enjoyable and thanks to rebelchantuse for being my last minute angel.
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great show
pony up was pretty decent, all-girl pop from montreal, had one really good song towards the end of their set that sounded like a dead ringer for a rilo kiley tune, most of them were easy on the eyes as well
the ponys tore some shit up, i hadn't seen them before and i missed some of their set, but what i heard was really top notch, big sound, high energy, easily could have been the headliners
bloc party really delivered ... they were really into the show, the lead singer had great charisma, a sloppy delivery that worked perfectly ... drummer was outstanding
crowd was pretty crazy ... mini-fight broke out near me during the 2nd or 3rd song, a group of people were rolling their faces off next to us, but didnt really feel like a sell-out when you walked toward the back, lot of empty space back there, which surprised me ...
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yeah, there was a lot of space at the back
I guess I wasn't quite as taken with the show as Hoya and Kosmo, although I was quite tired and grumpy
thought bloc party were good, verging on great - they started with what I think are their best 3 songs so after that it was harder to them to keep my attention
how long did they play - an hour tops? on the one hand I thought the crowd was into it but on the other the interval between the 'last' song and the encore was one of the most insipid live moments I've ever witnessed - half-hearted at best - at time I wondered if they would bother to come back out, even knowing that they had 4 more songs to play
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agreed on the encores... i don't quite understand the go off stage and wait for the roadie to tune the guitar pause either. if staying in tune is so important then have a couple guitars and swap them out during the set. encores have definitely gone by their sellby date. do a 60 minute set and move on... and let the audience demand the encore if it's warranted, or split the set up.
Well Pony Up were just not my thing... "Basic" indie pop really doesn't grab my attention. Wasn't really sure where The Pony's were headed but, by the garage/mod tinged third song won me over. The post-punk influences began peeking and eventually were front and center. The transition in sound didn't seem as forced as other in the case of Kasabian. But, a couple songs in to the Bloc Party's set and the Pony's set was a distant memory.
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Bloc Party
Bloc Party's Kele Okereke has an accent that's so South London, one fan at the Black Cat Saturday night yelled "Speak English!" Okereke got little response when he would name the next song, yet the audience roared when guitarist Russell Lissack or drummer Matt Tong played an opening lick. This crowd knew every riff and beat.
Such familiarity was useful, since Bloc Party's music was less distinct in concert than on its debut album, "Silent Alarm." That was partially due to the somewhat muffled sound quality but mostly because the group doesn't yet have the musical range of its ambitions. Live, the band's influences seemed raw and barely assimilated: U2, especially in Lissack's epic arpeggios; Gang of Four, notably in the booming rhythm section and the vocal interplay between Okereke and bassist Gordon Moakes; and the Cure, mostly in the modal vocal melodies and Okereke's declamatory delivery.
Yet the drive of the short, spiky tunes ("Like Eating Glass," "Blue Light") largely compensated for their derivativeness and certainly galvanized the audience. One way or another, the listeners did understand one of Okereke's heavily accented remarks -- that, on the last night of Bloc Party's U.S. tour, he wanted people to dance.
The garage-band drone of the Ponys, who preceded Bloc Party, was winningly enthusiastic. The two-guitar sound was reminiscent of the Velvet Underground but with snatches of Byrdsian jangle and some surging passages so thick they suggested an electric organ.
-- Mark Jenkins
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42721-2005Apr10.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42721-2005Apr10.html)
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I love it when the audience is clapping and singing along...just like a Guster or Britney Spears show! :D
But I'm still trying to figure out what caothic drumming is? Is that something new, or just something British? ;)
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Great show... All Fun No Filler for the Bloc Party. Have become a band I will want to see live again and again. Like Sloan and Idlewild this band enjoys playing live which makes the concert going experience that much more fun to attend. The songs all sound and are treated like hit singles. The audience was singing and clapping along through out the set. While the influences leak through on the record, in concert there is a more defined Bloc Party sound. It's great they don't feel the need to replicate the record live, ragged around the edges is fine by me. Caothic drumming always a plus. Most enjoyable and thanks to rebelchantuse for being my last minute angel.
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I love singing and clapping too, especially when I can't hear the band over someone shouting the (wrong) lyrics in my ear with hot-ass bad breath. Yummy!
Bloc Party was very good, but we left at the third encore song. Sorry guys... that one was a party-killer.
I noticed lots of really young folks at the show. They have a song on the OC soundtrack, or do Bloc Party have a Modern Rock Hit? on the radio?
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Indie is the new mainstream, at least for upper middle class white kids.
Originally posted by tenfifteen:
I noticed lots of really young folks at the show. They have a song on the OC soundtrack, or do Bloc Party have a Modern Rock Hit? on the radio?
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Wonder how long it will take for clubs to start sorting fans at the door and giving them their own area of the club. Rabid, Casual, Indifferent, Dancing machines and Cameraphone carrierers. That way there would be less complaints about the audience. Taking it would step further there could be contests to determine which groups gets the best placing in the club.
Or maybe everyone should just get to pick the audience they want to see the band with...
The Black Cat could have been filled with people staring blankly at the band.
It could have been filled with people waiting for the hit and otherwise busily chatting with or texting their bestest friends. This I fear will happen at the Kaiser Chiefs show, because they have a hit.
Frankly, the audience of rabid fans made the show more interesting to be at.
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So what do lower middle class kids listen to...
Bloc Party are hardly indie either, they are signed to a fake indie label which is part of Atlantic Records. Probably have high powered publistists, etc working on their behalf.
Could it just be possible that the band managed to generate enough buzz that people went out and got the CD and bought tickets. I mean it must really suck to be a band that moves product. Totally soul draining...
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I didn't notice any "rabid" fans, but then I was by the bar. I don't at all mind young folks, cellphones, texting, picture-taking, dancing, singing, clapping. Come Spoon, I'll be dancing and singing with cam in hand.
What I do mind is when someone else is elbowing me in the face whilst clapping, jumping on my feet while pogoing, or shouting over my shoulder/in my ear while "singing."
I'm just looking for a little consideration when space is that tight.
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So what do lower middle class kids listen to...
Metal and hip hop.
I thought the definition of "indie" had now been changed to describe a certain sound, rather than i the band was on an independent label or not. You know, like "alternative".
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
So what do lower middle class kids listen to...
Bloc Party are hardly indie either, they are signed to a fake indie label which is part of Atlantic Records. Probably have high powered publistists, etc working on their behalf.
Could it just be possible that the band managed to generate enough buzz that people went out and got the CD and bought tickets. I mean it must really suck to be a band that moves product. Totally soul draining...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
So what do lower middle class kids listen to...
Nelly.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Could it just be possible that the band managed to generate enough buzz that people went out and got the CD and bought tickets.
LOL. Yeah, that's possible, I suppose. I'm not hatin', but it does seem a bit odd to see so many young people at a show for a relatively new band. When I've seen it before, it's usually because the band has gotten into heavy rotation on MTV or "alternative" radio. Doesn't mean the band or the fans suck, just an explanation. Someone was telling me they were on TRL the other day, so...
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Originally posted by brennser:
I guess I wasn't quite as taken with the show as Hoya and Kosmo, although I was quite tired and grumpy
how long did they play - an hour tops? on the one hand I thought the crowd was into it but on the other the interval between the 'last' song and the encore was one of the most insipid live moments I've ever witnessed - half-hearted at best - at time I wondered if they would bother to come back out, even knowing that they had 4 more songs to play
They played 42 minutes before the encore, then came back for a 12-15 minute encore, so about an hour.
Brennser, I also was pretty beat (not cranky, though) after a couple hours at a Capital Hill bar then the DC United game, so I sat in the back, which I've only ever done once before. But, it worked out well as Skeeter found me there and sat at a table with me. What was impressive was that Bloc Party was good, even from that vantage point. I liked how they played (that slightly messier edge folks have mentioned), their energy, etc. Definitely a good show -- I was impressed. The crowd was really into it as well, which makes for a more fun outing.
I was up in the middle of the crowd for the first five Ponys songs (looking for Kurosawa, to no avail); I liked them a lot. They had a little bit of a Rosebuds vibe going, goodmusic, good energy -- I bought a CD...
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that show was fucking fantastic. sound was great, the pacing of the show was so that the energy never let up. it was one of those rare occasions where my buzz was supplemented by what was going on onstage. one of the funner shows i've been to there.
and what do high school kids need to listen to in order to get a pass? beethoven? if it's good charlotte they get ragged on, eminem they get ragged on...bloc party they get ragged on.
pretty much everyone there seemed to be having a great time. who cares what the median age is.
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didn't get that memo regarding the change in definition for indie... so alternative becomes indie whats next underground?
well i was in the mix of things and didn't get elbowed,etc which yes would have annoyed me. by rabid i mean those fans who were there to see and enjoy the entire show verses those who show up to hear the hit and generally ruin shows for everyone else involved.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
agreed on the encores... i don't quite understand the go off stage and wait for the roadie to tune the guitar pause either. do a 60 minute set and move on... and let the audience demand the encore if it's warranted, or split the set up.
See the Ok Go thread in a few minutes on encores...they handled it better than I've ever seen, in all my hundreds of shows.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Wonder how long it will take for clubs to start sorting fans at the door and giving them their own area of the club. Rabid, Casual, Indifferent, Dancing machines and Cameraphone carrierers. That way there would be less complaints about the audience. Taking it would step further there could be contests to determine which groups gets the best placing in the club.
Or maybe everyone should just get to pick the audience they want to see the band with...
The Black Cat could have been filled with people staring blankly at the band.
It could have been filled with people waiting for the hit and otherwise busily chatting with or texting their bestest friends. This I fear will happen at the Kaiser Chiefs show, because they have a hit.
Frankly, the audience of rabid fans made the show more interesting to be at.
whoever said that the crowd sucked because they were animated? i mean, sure, it sucks when a guy starts pogo-ing for no other reason than to start a fight, but i thought overall it was a fun crowd ...
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Considering that radio aims for advertising dollars, the richest of which are aimed at the young upper middle class demographic, and "alternative" stations are routinely dropping that format (WHFS, Y100, New York KROCK), it would appear there is little evidence that indie is the new mainstream -- for upper middle class kids or any other large group.
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well my comments were a bit of a over reaction to 10:15's but now i can see where they are coming from.
i was curious as to what kind of crowd would be at the show given that it wasn't neither an instant or last minute sellout. and plently of people were still looking for tickets having been caught off guard by the sellout. it was nice to see the crowd that was in to the band and yes youngish, suprised i didn't turned away at the door.
my comments were also generalized about how people seem to react to audiences these days. i see comments all the time about how lame audiences are in other cities. so dc surely can't be the "lamest".
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Considering that radio aims for advertising dollars, the richest of which are aimed at the young upper middle class demographics, and "alternative" stations are routinely dropping that format (WHFS, Y100, New York KROCK), it would appear there is little evidence that indie is the new mainstream -- for upper middle class kids or any other large group.
100% agreed. rhett is just wrong on this one, and his stubborness is just getting annoying
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In case it got missed before; I had a great time, loved the show, and they are definitely one of my favorite new bands. I was just commenting generally on someone else's gripe about shouter/clappers. No pains in the ass at the show, but after ToD on Thursday, I was a bit tired, and so was well out of the crowd up front. I think by all accounts these guys put on a truly great show.
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so I sat in the back, which I've only ever done once before. But, it worked out well as Skeeter found me there and sat at a table with me
darn, I was standing at the soundboard - sorry I missed you guys
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Clapping and singing along when appropriate be a Guster, Brittney Spears, Bloc Party is just a sign there is a connection between audience and band. And the post is overstating the disconnect between the singer and the audience. But then again he's probably just wants to get the backlash started.
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do you have to be a certain age before you can get credit for going out and finding your own favourite bands to listen to? anyone under 21 that likes a band MUST have heard them on MTV?
man, you people sound really old saying that.
(maybe its just Rhett)
i dont know, all this may have been true 15 years ago, but with the internet and what not, seems like anyone with a high speed connection has access to hear any band on earth, with pretty great ease.....
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I though it was an overall great set from Bloc Party and agree with most of what has been said already, especially the wait on the encore. They were very impressive live for a young band. And that was cool of them to take an audience request for Pioneers at the end of the encore. Does anyone know why they were videotaping the concert? Is their a DVD we should be anticipating?
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White man, I discovered Siouxsie at the age of 16 because "JuJu" was in a cut-out bin at a record store near Univ. of South Florida. Isn't that what musically-inclined teenagers do? (Though I suppose now it's internet discoveries, but the premise is the same...)
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Originally posted by Bags:
White man, I discovered Siouxsie at the age of 16 because "JuJu" was in a cut-out bin at a record store near Univ. of South Florida. Isn't that what musically-inclined teenagers do? (Though I suppose now it's internet discoveries, but the premise is the same...)
right, bags!
so when we were 16 going to the shows of bands we loved...did we just go cause we heard the song on the radio or MTV??? no! (i know i didnt) so why do we assume the 16-18 year old kids do that now?
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Originally posted by white man from town:
anyone under 21 that likes a band MUST have heard them on MTV?
Not what I said or meant... I'm not passing judgment, I'm glad people of all ages like the band, and Bloc Party may be the exception that proves the rule. I'm just saying that when there is a large percentage of under-21 fans at a show it typically points to airplay on MTV or the radio.
If that makes me sound old, well... okay... I guess I am. I've been going to shows for a long time, and a general observation of mine is that when there is a noticeably large contingent of young people at a show, there has been a concurrent "buzz" on MTV, in Rolling Stone, the radio, etc.
That doesn't mean young people are stupid, unhip, corporate-rock-zombies, or anything of the like. Just an observation. Sheesh.
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Originally posted by white man from town:
right, bags!
so when we were 16 going to the shows of bands we loved...did we just go cause we heard the song on the radio or MTV??? no! (i know i didnt) so why do we assume the 16-18 year old kids do that now?
I think it is safe to say, when a new band sells out a venue, it didnt happen because a bunch of kids found it on the internet. Normally there is something driving attendance, especially when it sells out in advance. There are many things that can drive attendance from indie scene hype to a single story in a mainstream outlet. And I am not saying that something driving attendance is a negative thing.
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It seems to me that Friday/Saturday shows in general are drawing younger crowds. I think it's just a matter of kids discovering that it's more fun to hang out at a club with a good band, rather than hang out at the mall (or whatever kids do these days). I'm sure most of them were excited to see Bloc Party (which is why it sold-out early), but I'm also pretty sure they just think the Cat is a cool place to hang out.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
I'm also pretty sure they just think the Cat is a cool place to hang out.
Cuz it is! ;) Man, if I were a teenager or young 20-something today, I'd be at the Cat *all* the time.
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Originally posted by jtleibs:
Does anyone know why they were videotaping the concert? Is their a DVD we should be anticipating?
I don't know about a DVD, but the audio of the show is available here (http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=36660)
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by jtleibs:
Does anyone know why they were videotaping the concert? Is their a DVD we should be anticipating?
I don't know about a DVD, but the audio of the show is available here (http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=36660) [/b]
Cool. Thanks a lot. I didn't think there would be a recording of the show.
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It's hard not to see the brillance in this album. The album is fresh and fun but still manages to be introspective and contemplative. Not to mention their live shows are insane.
"God Bless Bloc Party"
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check out tickets.com right now if you missed the show. personally i prefer the futureheads.
EDIT...oops, old news.
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Hey, twice now i've downloaded the torrent file to listen to the bloc party show, but it ends up as a .flac file, which won't play on any of my players, real, windows, winamp, etc., then again, neither time was i here at my computer when it finished downloading, so i don't know if something went wrong halfway through, what is wrong and how can i listen to the show?
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Download the flac software:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html (http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html)
Once you install the flac frontend, you can use it to convert the flac files to wav.
Or use musicmatch to play flac.
Originally posted by Arthwys:
Hey, twice now i've downloaded the torrent file to listen to the bloc party show, but it ends up as a .flac file, which won't play on any of my players, real, windows, winamp, etc., then again, neither time was i here at my computer when it finished downloading, so i don't know if something went wrong halfway through, what is wrong and how can i listen to the show?
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Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
check out tickets.com right now if you missed the show. personally i prefer the futureheads.
EDIT...oops, old news.
New news to me, as I've been offline all day. If tickets are still available tomorrow at the box office, I'll pick some up.
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ggw....thanks so much. Works wonderfully, and the sound isn't at all bad.
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came late to this...
but as for the original thread topic...
emo.
very.
i thought this on first listen. i was loving the album and then there were 2 or 3 songs that stuck out so sorely and all I could think of were my early high school emo days.
so i love the album except for the emo tracks. i always skip them. they don't agree with me.
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omg emo wtf.
bloc party is total post-punk, sounds more influenced by the cure or the smiths. especially "this modern love."
"so here we are" is the most expendable song on the record. the only one i skip.
p.s. got my tickets for 6/16. can't wait.