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Title: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 13, 2007, 02:23:00 pm
Anybody else excited to hear who gets named? I'll be at a seminar at 2pm, so I'll have to check it out upon my return.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Brian_Wallace on December 13, 2007, 02:43:00 pm
I think Pujols is the biggest name.  Clemens, but that's not a shocker.  Pettite.
 
 Oh, the just pulled the list.  Sorry.
 
 Brian
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Sage 703 on December 13, 2007, 02:45:00 pm
there have been some lists floating around, but nobody is sure what is truly accurate yet.  I guess we'll all find out at 2:00.
 
 Could be pretty devastating to baseball, I think...
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 13, 2007, 02:45:00 pm
I absolutely postively could not give a badgers bum...most of the fuckers are at it so what's the big deal???
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: vansmack on December 13, 2007, 03:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
  I think Pujols is the biggest name.  
"Adobe has finished searching the document.  No matches were found."
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: BookerT on December 13, 2007, 03:48:00 pm
et tu, josias manzanillo?
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: vansmack on December 13, 2007, 03:49:00 pm
Maybe I should be happy the Angels didn't get Miggy on Tuesday - it does explain his '07 numbers.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Brian_Wallace on December 13, 2007, 03:51:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
  I think Pujols is the biggest name.  
"Adobe has finished searching the document.  No matches were found." [/b]
I guess I have better sources than you do.
 
 His name was on the MSNBC leaked list.
 
 Brian
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: vansmack on December 13, 2007, 03:51:00 pm
And will someone please explain to me why these guys wrote checks?!!?!!?
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 13, 2007, 03:55:00 pm
because they figured if baseball ever decided to care, they'd start caring about the present instead of trying to dig up the past in an effort to keep barry bonds out of the sacred sacred record book. which would make more sense...
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: vansmack on December 13, 2007, 03:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
  I guess I have better sources than you do.
 
 
Sources?  Why don't you just read the report for yourself...
 
 http://files.mlb.com/mitchrpt.pdf (http://files.mlb.com/mitchrpt.pdf)
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 13, 2007, 04:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
  I guess I have better sources than you do.
 
 
Sources?  Why don't you just read the report for yourself...
 
   http://files.mlb.com/mitchrpt.pdf (http://files.mlb.com/mitchrpt.pdf)  [/b]
I thought the same thing. I came across the report and wasn't even looking for it!
 
 I guess the board idiot isn't majoring in investigative journalism.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: paul3mac on December 13, 2007, 04:10:00 pm
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Former Sen. George Mitchell's report on steroid use in baseball released today mentions at least 16 current and former Orioles including second baseman Brian Roberts and recently traded shortstop Miguel Tejada.
 
 The others named are: current outfielder Jay Gibbons, who recently admitted using human growth hormone and accepted a 15-day suspension, and ex-Orioles Rafael Palmeiro, Larry Bigbie, David Segui, Jack Cust, Jason Grimsley, Jerry Hairston, Tim Laker, Gregg Zaun, Kevin Brown, Howie Clark, Todd Williams, Kent Mercker and Gary Matthews Jr.
 
 Other notable players mentioned include Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, Barry Bonds, Mo Vaughn, Gary Sheffield, David Justice Jason Giambi and his brother Jeremy. Eric Gagne and Paul Lo Duca were also named, both linked to human growth hormone.
   
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: ratioci nation on December 13, 2007, 04:19:00 pm
amazing how many stories reported pujols and then didn't retract
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Mobius on December 13, 2007, 04:28:00 pm
The details of Roger Clemens steroid use - following years of somewhat vague speculation - are the only thing I saw that added anything the new.
 
 Interesting that the report of George J. Mitchell, consultant to the owner of the Red Sox, made such a nice effort to throw Red Sox Judas / latter day Yankee Roger Clemens under the bus - along with Andy Pettite and the Jason Giambi (no surprise).  No Red Sox players of note are mentioned, although the incident where steroids are found w/ Manny Alexander in 2000 is discussed, and pre-glory days 'star' Mo Vaughn is outed.  I know that facts are facts, but . . .
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: vansmack on December 13, 2007, 04:42:00 pm
Ken Caminiti
 
 
 BALCO
 
 Marvin Bernard
 Barry Bonds
 Bobby Estelella
 Jason Giambi
 Jeremy Giambi
 Benito Santiago
 Gary Sheffield
 Randy Velarde
 
 KIRK RADOMSKI/BRIAN MCNAMEE
 
 Lenny Dykstra
 David Segui
 Larry Bigbie
 Brain Roberts
 Jack Cust
 Tim Laker
 Josias Manzanillo
 Todd Hundley
 Mark Carreon
 Hal Morris
 Matt Franco
 Rondell White
 Roger Clemens
 Andy Pettitte
 Chuck Knoblauch
 Jason Grimsley
 Gregg Zaun
 David Justice
 F.P. Santangelo
 Glenallen Hill
 Mo Vaughn
 Denny Neagle
 Ron Villone
 Ryan Franklin
 Chris Donnels
 Todd Williams
 Phil Hiatt
 Todd Pratt
 Kevin Young
 Mike Lansing
 Cody McKay
 Kent Mercker
 Adam Piatt
 Miguel Tejada
 Jason Christiansen
 Mike Stanton
 Stephen Randolph
 Jerry Hairston, Jr.
 Paul Lo Duca
 Adam Riggs
 Bart Miadich
 Fernando Vina
 Kevin Brown
 Eric Gagné
 Mike Bell
 Matt Herges
 Gary Bennett, Jr.
 Jim Parque
 Brendan Donnelly
 Chad Allen
 Jeff Williams
 Howie Clark
 Nook Logan
 
 INTERNET PURCHASES
 
 Rick Ankiel
 David Bell
 Paul Byrd
 Jose Canseco
 Jay Gibbons
 Troy Glaus
 Jason Grimsley
 Jose Guillen
 Jerry Hairston, Jr.
 Darren Holmes
 Gary Matthews, Jr.
 John Rocker
 Scott Schoeneweis
 Ismael Valdez
 Matt Williams
 Steve Woodard
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: BookerT on December 13, 2007, 04:47:00 pm
good to see kevin young -- "the calgary kid," as we used to call him back in the day at three rivers -- getting some ink!
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 13, 2007, 04:53:00 pm
Who was the hee-haw they called Big Mac? I don't recognize his name on the list.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: ggw on December 13, 2007, 05:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who was the hee-haw they called Big Mac? I don't recognize his name on the list.
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Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: vansmack on December 13, 2007, 05:06:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who was the hee-haw they called Big Mac? I don't recognize his name on the list.
They touched on Mark McGwire in the history section of the report, but Andro at the time was legal and there didn't appear to be credible evidence from BALCO or the other three sources that were willing to talk about supplying McGwire. And his refusal to deny at the Congressional hearing did him in anyway.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: nkotb on December 13, 2007, 05:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who was the hee-haw they called Big Mac? I don't recognize his name on the list.
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Mac_Tonight.PNG" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: shemptiness on December 13, 2007, 05:20:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Maybe I should be happy the Angels didn't get Miggy on Tuesday - it does explain his '07 numbers.
The Orioles finally did something right for a change.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Dr. Anton Phibes on December 13, 2007, 05:30:00 pm
And Canseco was "the big snitch and liar"....he was the only one using and he's just trying to "make him self look better by making up lies about everyone else"...heard all this crap when his book was released....looks like he is one of the very few to actually tell the TRUTH about everything he was involved in....hate him if you like....the guy laid out all his sins on the table....bet he's sleeping a lot better tonight than "The Rocket"........lol.....
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 13, 2007, 05:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who was the hee-haw they called Big Mac? I don't recognize his name on the list.
They touched on Mark McGwire in the history section of the report, but Andro at the time was legal and there didn't appear to be credible evidence from BALCO or the other three sources that were willing to talk about supplying McGwire. And his refusal to deny at the Congressional hearing did him in anyway. [/b]
Thank you...I can always rely on smackie for an answer without trying to being a smart-arse.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 13, 2007, 05:34:00 pm
What's the next big report that is of no interest to the vast majority...wether Mike Piazza is gay or not?
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Mobius on December 14, 2007, 10:53:00 am
Best description I read of the Mitchell Report is 'horsesh*t served up like its cavier.'  All hearsay and accusation based on very limited, sketchy sources.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: ggw on December 14, 2007, 02:18:00 pm
I think it's great that so many people acknowledge that steroids are rampant in MLB, but when their favorite players or teams get named, they get all indignant.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 14, 2007, 03:11:00 pm
Why is that great?
 
 
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  I think it's great that so many people acknowledge that steroids are rampant in MLB, but when their favorite players or teams get named, they get all indignant.
Title: Re: The Mitchell Report
Post by: ggw on January 14, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
Add 50 Cent, Timbaland, and Mary J. Bilge to the list (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/01/14/steroid.raid.ap/index.html)