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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ratioci nation on March 23, 2006, 02:43:00 pm
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this surprised me, who knew I was untrustworthy, nobody answer that
Atheists identified as America??s most distrusted minority, according to new U of M study
What: U of M study reveals America??s distrust of atheism
Who: Penny Edgell, associate professor of sociology
Contact: Nina Shepherd, sociology media relations, (612) 599-1148
Mark Cassutt University News Service, (612) 624-8038
MINNEAPOLIS / ST. PAUL (3/20/2006) -- American??s increasing acceptance of religious diversity doesn??t extend to those who don??t believe in a god, according to a national survey by researchers in the University of Minnesota??s department of sociology.
From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households, university researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority groups in ??sharing their vision of American society.? Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are least willing to allow their children to marry.
Even though atheists are few in number, not formally organized and relatively hard to publicly identify, they are seen as a threat to the American way of life by a large portion of the American public. ??Atheists, who account for about 3 percent of the U.S. population, offer a glaring exception to the rule of increasing social tolerance over the last 30 years,? says Penny Edgell, associate sociology professor and the study??s lead researcher.
Edgell also argues that today??s atheists play the role that Catholics, Jews and communists have played in the past??they offer a symbolic moral boundary to membership in American society. ??It seems most Americans believe that diversity is fine, as long as every one shares a common ??core?? of values that make them trustworthy??and in America, that ??core?? has historically been religious,? says Edgell. Many of the study??s respondents associated atheism with an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
more at the link
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
this surprised me, who knew I was untrustworthy
remember, this is supposedly a true cross-section of US society, which means you're getting gobs and gobs of complete and total idiots in there ... conduct a poll of people you interact with on a regular basis and i'm sure you'd see a very very different result
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I don't know... you might have made this whole link up.
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Originally posted by Roy Hibbert is Tall:
remember, this is supposedly a true cross-section of US society, which means you're getting gobs and gobs of complete and total idiots in there ... conduct a poll of people you interact with on a regular basis and i'm sure you'd see a very very different result
Definitely true. When I read the article, my first thought was of one of my favorite South Park quotes... "Ok, now let's get an answer from someone who's not a complete retard."
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Originally posted by Roy Hibbert is Tall:
remember, this is supposedly a true cross-section of US society, which means you're getting gobs and gobs of complete and total idiots in there.
"Many of the study??s respondents associated atheism with...cultural elitism."
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Originally posted by ggw?:
"Many of the study??s respondents associated atheism with...cultural elitism."
I dont think the elitism part is what makes them want to keep their kids away from atheists.
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Brothers! We are foregathered here to preserve our hallowed culture'n heritage! From intrusions, inclusions and dilutions! Of culluh! Of creed! Of our ol'-time religion!
We aim to pull evil up by the root! Before it chokes out the flower of our culture'n heritage! And our women! Let's not forget those ladies, y'all, lookin' to us for p'tection! From darkies! From Jews! From Papists! And from all those smart-ass folk say we come descended from the monkeys! That's not my culture'n heritage!
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by Roy Hibbert is Tall:
remember, this is supposedly a true cross-section of US society, which means you're getting gobs and gobs of complete and total idiots in there.
"Many of the study??s respondents associated atheism with...cultural elitism." [/b]
damn straight ... cultural elitism is an essential element of misanthropy ... most people suck
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personally, i think it's pretty damn presemptuous to be a flat-out atheist .... agnosticism is the way to go!
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
I don't know... you might have made this whole link up.
hilarious. nice one.
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Originally posted by Roy Hibbert is Tall:
personally, i think it's pretty damn presemptuous to be a flat-out atheist .... agnosticism is the way to go!
Good point, and I definately lean more towards agnosticism than atheism. I mean, what if when the big sleep comes there really is something more? Less back-pedalling to do if your're an agnostic rather thatn a full-blown atheist. Hopefully us agnostics can just plea ignorance and get a pass, if it comes to that.
I bet Revery feels sorry for all us non believer types.
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
Originally posted by Roy Hibbert is Tall:
personally, i think it's pretty damn presemptuous to be a flat-out atheist .... agnosticism is the way to go!
Good point, and I definately lean more towards agnosticism than atheism. I mean, what if when the big sleep comes there really is something more? Less back-pedalling to do if your're an agnostic rather thatn a full-blown atheist. Hopefully us agnostics can just plea ignorance and get a pass, if it comes to that.
I bet Revery feels sorry for all us non believer types. [/b]
Too bad that many of those "idiots" equate agnosticism with atheism. Just can't reason with 'em.
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I couldn't finish the article after reading this very first sentence because I was laughing too hard.
Originally posted by pdx pollard:
MINNEAPOLIS / ST. PAUL (3/20/2006) -- American??s increasing acceptance of religious diversity
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:
what if when the big sleep comes there really is something more? Less back-pedalling to do if your're an agnostic Hopefully us agnostics can just plea ignorance and get a pass, if it comes to that.
How can you be certain that this isn't the afterlife already? I mean...do you remember being born? Do you??? No..? Well, then maybe you don't remember dying either.
Welcome to the afterlife Chaz...white courtesy telephone please.
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The former Soviet Union's shunning of Orthodox iconography was one of the more salient points of Atheism.
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America is to christianity what Al Queada is to Islam.
Personally, I used to be agnostic, but now I'm not so sure! ;)