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Anyone else geeking out about what Apple will introduce?
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Originally posted by econo:
Anyone else geeking out about what Apple will introduce?
I always just end up pissed off. They always introduce something which will make whatever I have right now look crappy and overpriced.
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The only apple product I own is an iPod, and I'm happy with it. I'm just interested in their designs.
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The most commmon rumor is that they will release a 1gb flash player with *no screen* called the "iPod Shuffle".
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
*no screen*
no chance.....
Apple have been buying flash memory, most likely for a micro ipod.
The big announcement is the phone deal with motorola. It lloks like motorola phones will run a version of itunes. Alhough mac geeks are still hoping the whole phone and interface will be of apple design......
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I've heard 2 things, a flash memory iPod (prev mentioned) and a sub$500 Mac computer sold without monitor. Neither of which will replace my current iPod and Powerbook, both of which keep my credit card debt alive.
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There will also be a wireless remote control unit for your iPod.
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http://news.com.com/High+hopes+for+Macworld/2100-1041_3-5519485.html?tag=cnetfd.buzz (http://news.com.com/High+hopes+for+Macworld/2100-1041_3-5519485.html?tag=cnetfd.buzz)
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Apple introduces Mac mini. New member of Mac family Slot-load Combo optical drive. Play DVDs, burn CDs. Queit. Tiny, FireWire, ethernet, USB 2.o, both DVI/VGA output. Very tine. Height is half the size of an iPod mini. BYODKM. Bring Your Own Display, Keyboard, Mouse. [10:35 PT]
First one is $499: 1.25GHz 256MB/40GB More memory and larger hard drive for $599. Will ship on January 22. Ships in a box smaller than the regular iPod box.
http://mwsf.macnn.com/ (http://mwsf.macnn.com/)
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Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:
The big announcement is the phone deal with motorola. It lloks like motorola phones will run a version of itunes. Alhough mac geeks are still hoping the whole phone and interface will be of apple design......
I did hear the new 3G phones were incredible. Video and streaming music delivered at DSL speeds to your cell phone (in America, finally!). Likely to be a part of the Motorola plan for Sprint and Verizon customers.
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and they are extra bright for holding up at concerts! yay!
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new ipod with no screen
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all up on apple.com now
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Yep, surprised me....
http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/ (http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/)
I thought the main thing about the ipod was its navigation via the screen. I guess the only thing the shuffle has going for it is its integration with itunes.
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Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:
Yep, surprised me....
http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/ (http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/)
I thought the main thing about the ipod was its navigation via the screen. I guess the only thing the shuffle has going for it is its integration with itunes.
and that it is smaller than a pack of gum and only $99 for people to say they have an ipod
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Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:
Yep, surprised me....
http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/ (http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/)
I thought the main thing about the ipod was its navigation via the screen. I guess the only thing the shuffle has going for it is its integration with itunes.
Dammit. I knew it.
Must...have...one!! Must...have...it...now!
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Originally posted by pollard:
1)and that it is smaller than a pack of gum and
2)only $99 for people to say they have an ipod
1 is hardly novel.
2 is a pretty poor reason.
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Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:
2 is a pretty poor reason.
how so? tons of kids want one, and the high price was a sticking point, I bet a lot of people buy one to go with their real ipod, I dont want one, but people buy crap for worse reasons
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It seems that Markie's under the impression that people only buy things they need. Consumers have been eating up iPods for the past year. A cheaper product in the market only helps the consumer buy one.
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Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:
Originally posted by pollard:
1)and that it is smaller than a pack of gum and
2)only $99 for people to say they have an ipod
1 is hardly novel.
2 is a pretty poor reason. [/b]
I think a lot of people will buy it as a second iPod... it's exactly what I've been waiting for, since it's flash based and cheap (I run with my current iPod, but it sucks for that).
Also, a lot of people who don't have an iPod at all will buy it since it's so affordable
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Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:
I thought the main thing about the ipod was its navigation via the screen. I guess the only thing the shuffle has going for it is its integration with itunes.
And it's marketing.
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i STILL don't get why everyone likes them so much.
i just dont. and i am assuming i never will.
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It's a better version of the portable CD player/walkman.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i STILL don't get why everyone likes them so much.
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Apple or the ipod?
ipod=easiest, most user-friendly interface of any mp3 player.
and Apple just makes quality products, plus they have phenomenal support.
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I'm not too into the iPod shuffle myself. The mini mac looks really cool though.
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the mac mini looks cooler than most people i know. i think a $99 iPod does crack a new market for apple especially since other companies have started to some out with slick mp3 players in that price range. as for not understanding why they're so great, let me count the ways: iPod and Apple computers look cool, work great, are user friendly, have fantastic support and are not succeptable to a lot of the problems that microsoft/pc computers are (spyware, etc).
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Originally posted by econo:
I'm not too into the iPod shuffle myself. The mini mac looks really cool though.
Sounds like Dell circa 2002, except mouse and keyboard were standard.
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Yeh, that was my impression. I certainly don't need a computer right now, but if I did I would definitely consider the mini mac.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Sounds like Dell circa 2002.
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Originally posted by kcjones119:
the mac mini looks cooler than most people i know.
Geez, my grandma's vacuum cleaner looks cooler than most of the people *I* know!
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Originally posted by My Cat Can DJ:
Originally posted by kcjones119:
the mac mini looks cooler than most people i know.
Geez, my grandma's vacuum cleaner looks cooler than most of the people *I* know! [/b]
I declare "old timey spinning blade lawnmower" coolest looking grandparent-owned household device.
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Originally posted by kcjones119:
why they're so great, let me count the ways: iPod and Apple computers look cool, work great, are user friendly, have fantastic support and are not succeptable to a lot of the problems that microsoft/pc computers are (spyware, etc).
for a lot of my friends who regretfully bought PCs within the past couple of years that have since been destroyed by viruses, the mac mini is a great option. all they do is invest $500 for an 80GB G4 and hook up their now useless keyboard, mouse and monitor. kcjones (btw, is your name a celtics reference or the greatful dead?...i'd like to think it's the former) was exactly right...the support and lack of issues (spyware, viruses, etc.) is a big draw. once you go mac, you never go back.
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Kenneth Carroll Jones be the name although I do have a KC Jones basketball card (coaching for the Sonics) taped to my bedroom door.
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Originally posted by kcjones119:
Kenneth Carroll Jones be the name although I do have a KC Jones basketball card (coaching for the Sonics) taped to my bedroom door.
close enough i guess...were the 'rents deadheads to boot? i guess that song is casey jones tho not kc jones.
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they weren't, but i also go by casey because it's a family name and Irish people are crazy.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i STILL don't get why everyone likes them so much.
i just dont. and i am assuming i never will.
I was like you, till I owned one. I would never have given full price for one. I got mine 2nd hand. Now I cannot immagine being without it and would rush out and buy a new one the instant my old one died or got lost.
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Originally posted by econo:
It seems that Markie's under the impression that people only buy things they need. Consumers have been eating up iPods for the past year. A cheaper product in the market only helps the consumer buy one.
Not at all. But there are a gazillion flash based players out there already. The shuffle is jumping into a full market and all that it is bringing to the table is its itunes integration and name.
I guess Pollard is right though. I didnt think the name that important, but right now, if I wanted a flash based player I would get the shuffle.......
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I can get shoutcast streams on my cell phone (treo) with pocket tunes. It's pretty damn cool.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:
The big announcement is the phone deal with motorola. It lloks like motorola phones will run a version of itunes. Alhough mac geeks are still hoping the whole phone and interface will be of apple design......
I did hear the new 3G phones were incredible. Video and streaming music delivered at DSL speeds to your cell phone (in America, finally!). Likely to be a part of the Motorola plan for Sprint and Verizon customers. [/b]
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Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:
I was like you
what a frightening place that must have been for you.
well, you survived.
perhaps i will own an Ipod one day. if for nothing else to pretend i am staying in touch with all those new fangled devices coming out these days!
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Originally posted by chaz:
I can get shoutcast streams on my cell phone (treo) with pocket tunes. It's pretty damn cool.
It's been available to Treo's and Pocket PC Cell phones for a while, and yes, it's super cool!
These are for your standard size, run of the mill cell phones:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6792003/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6792003/)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:
I was like you
what a frightening place that must have been for you.
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I banned all mirrors.
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i don't like the ipod thing, it can only suffle? i'm too much of a control freak. the mini thing could be cool, i might be interested in that, if i don't end up going for the newer g5 imac
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for those who doubted...it's an ishuffle frenzy!
shuffle stampede (http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,66243,00.html?tw=wn_story_mailer)
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A little click happy this morning.
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Originally posted by joz:
for those who doubted...it's an ishuffle frenzy!
shuffle stampede (http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,66243,00.html?tw=wn_story_mailer)
100 on opening day is nothing to write home about. The place was packed because people were looking for the Mini Mac. Hell, even I stopped by to see if it was there, and I would never buy one. BTW, it wasn't there.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
100 on opening day is nothing to write home about.
It is a good job that is not what it said then.....
"That set off a rush of more than 100 people who couldn't wait to get their hands on the new product."
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Originally posted by Winterie Markie:
Originally posted by vansmack:
100 on opening day is nothing to write home about.
It is a good job that is not what it said then.....
"That set off a rush of more than 100 people who couldn't wait to get their hands on the new product." [/b]
not to mention what apple.com sold yesterday...i'm sure it was a shit ton.
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Originally posted by Winterie Markie:
Originally posted by vansmack:
100 on opening day is nothing to write home about.
It is a good job that is not what it said then.....
"That set off a rush of more than 100 people who couldn't wait to get their hands on the new product." [/b]
100 die hard Apple Freaks in San Francisco? I'm sure there's at least 500,000 of them in SF, millions in the NoCal area! It's not about selling to your die hards (that's the easy part because they'll buy anything with your name on it) - it's about opening avenues to new customers, which is why most of the industry here is questioning Apples move here.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
It's not about selling to your die hards (that's the easy part because they'll buy anything with your name on it) - it's about opening avenues to new customers, which is why most of the industry here is questioning Apples move here.
Red Herring, alright Rhett? 100 people at one time is not so bad. What other consumer computer device inspires that? PSP? And this is for a dull product with little innovation. I bet sony are kicking themselves.
Everyone questions Apples moves. Its a fun game. Still they have done an impressive job so far with itunes, ipod then ipod mini. Everyone dismissed ipod mini when it came out, including you....
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Originally posted by Winterie Markie:
Everyone dismissed ipod mini when it came out, including you....
I didn't dismiss it, I dismissed their ability to be the leading music retailer and the leading music device seller for a sustained period of time until they embrace WMA.
I said it then and I'll say it again, I would have purchased an iPod when they came out if it played WMA files. But since it didn't, I waited until a better alternatvie came along, and I've never questioned the purchase of my Napster player because it does everything an iPod does an more.
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Originally posted by Winterie Markie:
100 people at one time is not so bad. What other consumer computer device inspires that? PSP?
Back in December, Dell's Jukebox line were back ordered until Jan 20. Now they're back ordered until February 10th. Nobody is having trouble selling MP3 players, even a number as low as 100 a day.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
even a number as low as 100 a day.
Are you retarded? Did they say they sold 100? Dont be such a tool.
Why are Dells jukeboxes backordered? I am sure they are not selling in ipod numbers. Infact other people are not shifting nearly the amounts of products as ipods. Look around the stores. The ipod is on all the shelves.
Oh and you did say the ipod mini was a terrible idea.
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Originally posted by Winterie Markie:
Oh and you did say the ipod mini was a terrible idea.
IPod Mini: 4 GB, 8 Hour battery life, $249 and is all over the shelves.
Dell Pocket DJ: 5 GB, 10 hour battery, $199 and you can't get one because Dell WAY under-estimated how popular it would be.
You tell me if it was a good idea. I said, at that price it's not going to do well, because you can get 5 times the storage for $50 more. Now they've added a flash player, which is only going to hurt the mini even more. So who's retarded? I'm going with Apple.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Winterie Markie:
You tell me if it was a good idea. I said, at that price it's not going to do well, because you can get 5 times the storage for $50 more. Now they've added a flash player, which is only going to hurt the mini even more. So who's retarded? I'm going with Apple. [/b]
Make your mind up. Either you said it was a terrible idea (you did) or you didn't (you did). Just try and make your mind up.
Actually I thought the mini was a good Idea I know plenty of people with them who dont have more than 100 albums..... Its not just about storage. I dont crave more storage over my 5gbs.
I think they will sell 10s of millions of shuffles.
I think apple know what they are doing right now. they appear to have direction. Which is much more than can be said for say the Gil Amellio years.
It would seem like Dell dropped the ball, not apple, if Dell cannot get their product on shelves, eh? old chap.
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http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050120.html (http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050120.html)
January 20, 2005
Mini Me
The New Mac Mini is All About Movies
By Robert X. Cringely
Steve Jobs is so enigmatic. A couple weeks ago at MacWorld, he introduced the 2.9 lb. Mac Mini and the reaction was so great it was like he had re-invented the PC. Readers are all excited by the little box and have been asking me for my take on it. Like everyone else, I had to scratch my head a bit and ponder what this thing is really for. I know, I know, it is for all those PC drivers who bought an iPod and are now supposed to trash their Windows PC for a Mac Mini. Yeah, but what's it REALLY for? Movies.
The Mac Mini is one of Apple's trademark technology repackaging jobs. There ought to be nothing inherently exciting about the little box. It isn't especially powerful. You can buy smaller Windows and Linux machines. You can buy cheaper Windows machines from all the big brands. Yet the Mac Mini has people excited and those other PCs mainly don't. Some of it is industrial design -- it just looks cool. Some of it is commercial psychology: by forgetting the keyboard and mouse Apple not only saved money, it invented a whole new computer configuration between a barebones box and a complete system. Other keyboard-and-mouseless systems will soon appear from other vendors, I promise you, but they'll just be seen as copies.
I'll buy one. I have an old 400 MHz iMac in the kitchen that is begging to be replaced. Lots of Mac users will buy a Mini just to have one, which is why Jobs didn't really have to tell a big story to explain the little box, nor did he (yet) have to follow the aggressive pricing plan I suggested in my 2005 predictions. He'll sell the first half million just on exuberant inertia. But then sales might drop off as they did with the original Mac. THAT's when we'll get the real story on what this thing is for.
Everyone seems to think the Mini is a media PC, and it has the basic characteristics of one. Though the box has no TV tuner, Apple does offer an analog adapter. And you can burn DVDs with it if you get the optional DVD burner. Still, there were hints in that MacWorld presentation of something bigger to come, and the Mac Mini is a big part of that.
Here's my thinking, and it is just thinking -- I have no insider knowledge of Apple's plans, I haven't been diving in any Cupertino dumpsters, and nobody who knows the truth has told me a darned thing. I think the Mac Mini is a fixed component in a system that will extend iTunes to selling and distributing movies.
The first hint came to me a day or so before the MacWorld show when right at midnight my computer stopped playing Apple movie trailers. The only way to watch QuickTime movie trailers (the closest I get to a movie since we have little kids) was suddenly through iTunes 4.7, which takes you straight through the iTunes Music Store. The regular QuickTime player wouldn't work. Apple had made no announcements, nor had they upgraded QuickTime, so I'd say it was a glitch that presaged the eventual replacement of that player for the selling of movies. Since then Apple fixed things and the QuickTime player now works for playing trailers, but I had already seen the future.
Now go back to Steve's MacWorld performance, which you can see on the Apple web site. What the heck is Mr. Ando of Sony doing there? Nominally he's sharing the stage to herald the ability of Apple's new iMovie 5.0 to import high definition video from a new Sony consumer HD camcorder. Apple will also be selling the Sony camcorder online and in its stores. But you don't get the head of Sony at your event just to sell camcorders. And Jobs explained it himself -- it is the "Year of HD" and nearly all of the year is yet to come. As he darkly hinted, we can expect further announcements.
It is simple to say that Apple hopes to repeat with video the success it already has with iPod and iTunes. Jobs denies interest in video, citing the dominance of cable companies, but then he always denies right up until the moment he changes his mind, and that moment is coming.
If Apple hopes to emulate its iPod/iTunes success, what does that mean? It means selling hardware devices and proprietary content to play on those devices. The first such hardware device is probably the Mini. And the proprietary content will be video encoded in AVC H.264, which will be supported first in OS X 10.4, promised for the second quarter of this year. So Apple can't announce that it is in the movie distribution business until 10.4 (code-named Tiger) is available.
Remember Steve said this is the Year of HD. So one could expect that any video sold by Apple would be in high definition format. That gets around the supposed cable monopoly (there is no HD monopoly) and is suitably proprietary that Apple ought to be able to enforce its Digital Rights Management system.
The Mac Mini would look fine on, under, near, or generally around your TV. It has a DVI connector and so do many HDTVs, including those from Sony. Sony in its HDTV manuals says the DVI connector is "not intended" for connecting a computer, but it seems to work. That brings us back to Mr. Ando and my guess about the next Year of HD announcement or two. When OS X 10.4 ships, the Mini will suddenly become Apple's version of a media PC. Like the iPod, it will be a simple device that serves proprietary content, in this case HD video. Just like Gateway, HP, and Dell before it, Apple will start selling in its stores HDTVs, only they'll carry the Sony brand. Do you want to buy a Gateway TV or a Sony TV?
Now about that HD video content, Jobs was careful in his speech to point out more than once that there are two competing standards for High Definition DVDs -- Blu-Ray and HD-DVD -- but that H.264 is a constant on both systems. With movie studios divided between the two standards, this promises to be another VHS versus Betamax competition which means it will take two to three years for one standard to dominate, and in that interim devices will cost more than they ought to and will be coming later to market. Enter Apple and the Mac Mini, supporting every part of HD except a DVD standard, because one isn't needed. The Mini will download its HD video over broadband Internet connections so no optical component is required. The result is that Apple once again gets to market early and has a chance to become the de facto standard, just like iTunes did. Blockbuster can't compete with Apple until there are HD DVDs, and even digital cable doesn't have enough channel capacity to offer as many pay-per-view HD movies as Apple will be able to offer on the first day of service.
The movie studios will play along, too. They already allow on-line distribution through MovieLink and comparable services, so that's not a big obstacle. And Jobs, through his ownership of Pixar, is viewed as a movie industry player -- an insider with as much to lose as any other producer if "Toy Story" is pirated. And of course there is the fact that every movie distributor -- including Sony -- wants to take over Disney's role as Pixar's distribution partner, giving Jobs and Apple even more leverage. I know that Pixar and Apple are separate, but I also know that Steve Jobs will play every card in his deck.
The correlation of HDTV ownership and broadband penetration is very high. People who own HD TVs for the most part don't have HD movies. Movies are the key here, much more than HDTV, which is available for free over air (hence the lack of a tuner in the Mac Mini. Besides, viewers will tolerate non-real-time movie downloads -- as long as they take less time than driving to Blockbuster and back -- but they won't wait for the evening news to download. It simply has to be about movies.
There are a couple outfits already offering what could be the software components of this system. Their names are almost identical -- iFlicks and iFlix -- and both seem to be in flux. It could be that iFlix is freaked by the movie studio crackdown on bitTorrent servers, but suddenly their downloads don't download anymore while iFlicks has plain withdrawn its product from the market, leaving only mysterious messages on its web site. Both products manage well the organization and playing of videos on your Mac or PC. Either product could be the core of a new Apple movie service. I'm guessing that one or both have been -- or are about to be -- purchased by Apple.
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Its a cool article....
But it does not address any competition.... like the tivo-to-go service.
Do people really care that much about HD? I wonder what fraction of people have HD sets?
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
Do people really care that much about HD? I wonder what fraction of people have HD sets?
like the guy said, it is about getting in the market early, eventually everybody will have an hd tv
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Originally posted by pollard:
eventually everybody will have an hd tv
I doubt it. It is more likely there will be super HD before everyone accepts HD.
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
I doubt it. It is more likely there will be super HD before everyone accepts HD.
maybe people need a reason to adopt it, maybe something like this could be a reason if it catches on
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Originally posted by pollard:
maybe people need a reason to adopt it, maybe something like this could be a reason if it catches on
Well there is little reason right now. I really dont fancy paying $300 for the direct TV HD receiver and an extra $20 a month for the privilege.
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
Well there is little reason right now. I really dont fancy paying $300 for the direct TV HD receiver and an extra $20 a month for the privilege.
And Voom went BQ last week, leaving DTV, cable and your broadcast channels as the only HDTV suppliers out there, for what 15 HD channels, half of which are free with an antenna? I agree, it's a bit early for HDTV, even for me.
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
Its a cool article....
What the article really fails to address is how much bandwidth are you alotted by your ISP. A DVD movie is 4.7 GB for 120 minutes (without compression of course). An HD movie has to be twice that, so even with 2X compression, is your ISP going to allow for you to transmit 20 GB so that you can have 1 movie a week? Or worse yet, is that worth it to you?
And if the Movie is what the Mini Mac is really for, then why the G4 processor with only a 40 GB hard drive, which one wouldn't want to use for standard video editing, let alone HD video editing?
I think this is a stretch.
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To which I respond multiple gmail addresses should do the trick.....
Originally posted by vansmack:
What the article really fails to address is how much bandwidth are you alotted by your ISP. A DVD movie is 4.7 GB for 120 minutes (without compression of course). An HD movie has to be twice that, so even with 2X compression, is your ISP going to allow for you to transmit 20 GB so that you can have 1 movie a week? Or worse yet, is that worth it to you?
And if the Movie is what the Mini Mac is really for, then why the G4 processor with only a 40 GB hard drive, which one wouldn't want to use for standard video editing, let alone HD video editing?
I think this is a stretch.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
Its a cool article....
What the article really fails to address is how much bandwidth are you alotted by your ISP. A DVD movie is 4.7 GB for 120 minutes (without compression of course). An HD movie has to be twice that, so even with 2X compression, is your ISP going to allow for you to transmit 20 GB so that you can have 1 movie a week? Or worse yet, is that worth it to you?
And if the Movie is what the Mini Mac is really for, then why the G4 processor with only a 40 GB hard drive, which one wouldn't want to use for standard video editing, let alone HD video editing?
I think this is a stretch. [/b]
I think you are right. Well till you get to video editing. I dont think they are going to want you to edit there movies, so that is a non-issue. Perhaps with good compression that is going to be a 5GB download at best. Then you are looking at 4 movies on a mini. Not great but not undo-able. How much bandwidth is too much for an isp? I have no idea..
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Originally posted by econo:
To which I respond multiple gmail addresses should do the trick.....
It's not storage space, it's the amount of data transmitted. I'm not sure what the limits are for Verizon DSL and Comcast in the District, but my SBC DSL has a 28GB a month limit to the amount of data I can transmit on my account before I am required to pay an extra fee. That won't be nearly enough for this idea.
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I was kidding.
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I am not sure where editing fits in to this, if you look at the itunes/ipod model, the mac mini is the ipod in what this guy is talking about. It is just a delivery device.
As far as the codec goes - http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/h264.html (http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/h264.html) - what I have found says that the codec is 200 to 225% more efficient than mpeg2, which I guess is the standard for dvds. Maybe they have made it even more efficient.
Either way, these are all just theories, and pretty interesting. I am sure if Apple is actually doing this, they have thought about these issues, but it could be nothing like this.
I still say that the lack of hd tvs is not the biggest problem, if consumers are given a reason they "need" one, they will be happy to go out and get one.
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Originally posted by econo:
I was kidding.
Sorry. Just got in and I'm not even 1/4 through my first Mountain Dew yet. Not exactly sharp yet.
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Back to the HDTV dilemma, DirecTV announced that they will broadcast local HD channels over DirecTV beginning this summer, however, they will do so with new satellites to broadcast those channels in MPEG4 (instead of the current MPEG2). That means that any D*TV susbscriber who wishes to use HDTV for local channels will have to get a new dish and new receivers to transpond MPEG4.
Therefore, do not spend the big bucks to jump to HDTV right now because you will need new equipment this summer and there is no firm word on hardware upgrades (although D*TV has been good about this in the past). This should not effect your HD Ready TV however, so go buy one of those!
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Therefore, do not spend the big bucks to jump to HDTV right now because you will need new equipment this summer and there is no firm word on hardware upgrades (although D*TV has been good about this in the past). This should not effect your HD Ready TV however, so go buy one of those!
Sound advice. I did not know any of that.
I just dropped HBO and Cinemmax in favour of netflix. It would be nice to get ER and shit like that in HD though.
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It would be nice to get ER and shit like that in HD though.
so you're the one person left who still watches ER
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Originally posted by brennser:
[QB] It would be nice to get ER and shit like that in HD though.
No that is Lulu...
Actually for the past few months must see T.V. Thursday has just meant halo2 all night.
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
It would be nice to get ER and shit like that in HD though.
I'm going to wait for next season (late summer '05). We nearly made the jump before Xmas but it was the outrageuos price of the HDTivo ($999) that was the deciding factor (Tivo outweighed anything HD could deliver). Now it looks like all those that spent the big bucks on their HDTivo's may have a useless piece of equipment in a few months. Ouch! Although I think D*TV will make ammends, as they have done in the past.
I fully expect D*TV to offer free replacement dishes and maybe a small charge for HDTV receivers, with a larger charge for a non-TiVo HD-DVR's (made by D*TV).
I hate to say it, but the D*TV-TiVo relationship looks to be coming to a close, and that's REALLY bad news for TiVo, who already passed on creating cable relationships. None of the DVR's made by the cable companies can compete with the complete function of a TiVo, but people don't know what they're missing until they've tried one, and the cable companies have a bigger audience.
TiVo's learning, it's hard to stay in front.