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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: HoyaSaxa03 on June 24, 2008, 10:29:00 am
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i haven't been following a lot of threads, sorry if somethings already going for this ... really looking forward to this show, especially in such a small venue
any thoughts on if it will sell out? no way to get advance tickets, right?
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i'd be there in a hearbeat if it was 18+.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
any thoughts on if it will sell out? no way to get advance tickets, right?
Snailhook said it would, and no, no advance tickets.
If I get there in time, I'll be there.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Snailhook said it would
link?
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sorry - as i'm sure it is posted on here somewhere - but when is this show again?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Snailhook said it would
link? [/b]
He told me in a PM.
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i'm all in.
Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
If I get there in time, I'll be there.
need me to grab a ticket for you? i should be there early enough. does the velvet sell actual tickets, or does one pay and get a stamp? maybe i can SweetTalk™ the door-person into accepting payment for two, and giving you your stamp when you arrive... or put your name on a list as having paid, thereby ensuring your entry... lemme know.
Originally posted by callat703:
sorry - as i'm sure it is posted on here somewhere - but when is this show again?
this friday, at the velvet lounge. would love to see you there. bring your black turtleneck.
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Originally posted by callat703:
sorry - as i'm sure it is posted on here somewhere - but when is this show again?
Friday night.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
need me to grab a ticket for you? i should be there early enough. does the velvet sell actual tickets, or does one pay and get a stamp? maybe i can SweetTalk™ the door-person into accepting payment for two, and giving you your stamp when you arrive... or put your name on a list as having paid, thereby ensuring your entry... lemme know.
I would need two is the only problem. I think they hand stamp, but I could be wrong. If we could work something out, I'd definitely be up for it.
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I don't understand why more small venues like this don't do some sort of low-price advance ticketing. They could charge $10 for tickets + a 1.30 etix fee and everyone who bought tickets would just be on a guestlist when they show up. It's so much more convenient for those of us traversing the nation.
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So there. :D
And no, they don't have hard tickets.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
I don't understand why more small venues like this don't do some sort of low-price advance ticketing. They could charge $10 for tickets + a 1.30 etix fee and everyone who bought tickets would just be on a guestlist when they show up. It's so much more convenient for those of us traversing the nation.
Then you have to have somebody on staff to handle it, as well as a system that can process and manage incoming orders...much easier said than done.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
i'm all in.
Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
If I get there in time, I'll be there.
need me to grab a ticket for you? i should be there early enough. does the velvet sell actual tickets, or does one pay and get a stamp? maybe i can SweetTalk™ the door-person into accepting payment for two, and giving you your stamp when you arrive... or put your name on a list as having paid, thereby ensuring your entry... lemme know.
Originally posted by callat703:
sorry - as i'm sure it is posted on here somewhere - but when is this show again?
this friday, at the velvet lounge. would love to see you there. bring your black turtleneck. [/b]
Can I wear a black hoodie and a look of disdain instead?
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Originally posted by callat703:
Then you have to have somebody on staff to handle it, as well as a system that can process and manage incoming orders...much easier said than done.
I've seen lots of cafe's and non-traditional venues in Richmond handle this easily. As I said, a system like etix.com will do most of this cheaply and easily, you set it up to cut off sales 48 hours before the event, and it'll give you a print out of all the names. At a venue like Velvet Lounge that only holds 150 people, this isn't exactly a long list. Then, you simply have whoever is sitting at the door and collecting the cover charge also holding the at-worst 2 page list of names and crossing them off when the people show up. In theory, they have to check id's anyway since most venues of this size are 21+ or 18+. I don't think it's that hard.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by callat703:
Then you have to have somebody on staff to handle it, as well as a system that can process and manage incoming orders...much easier said than done.
I've seen lots of cafe's and non-traditional venues in Richmond handle this easily. As I said, a system like etix.com will do most of this cheaply and easily, you set it up to cut off sales 48 hours before the event, and it'll give you a print out of all the names. At a venue like Velvet Lounge that only holds 150 people, this isn't exactly a long list. Then, you simply have whoever is sitting at the door and collecting the cover charge also holding the at-worst 2 page list of names and crossing them off when the people show up. In theory, they have to check id's anyway since most venues of this size are 21+ or 18+. I don't think it's that hard. [/b]
Trust me, as somebody that's worked at a small venue with an in house ticketing system, it can be a big hassle - you've got to train people on the system, you've got to be able to troubleshoot it late at night when something goes wrong, you have to have people that can take a ticket order by phone if the web system is down, etc etc.... I'm not saying it isn't worth doing, but I definitely understand why most venues of that size (IOTA/Velvet) don't want to deal with it.
Additionally - those services come with fees, which people complain about. For venues that are already operating on really slim margins, it doesn't make sense to add an additional cost so the few shows that might sell out in advance can benefit...
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i have no clue who this is. am i missing something?
<img src="http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-pictures-baby-kangarabbitmousquirrel.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
i have no clue who this is. am i missing something?
He's an ambient-shoegaze laptop artist from Germany. He's got some good shoegaze/dreampop bands opening for him, particularly Auburn Lull.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
i have no clue who this is. am i missing something?
He's an ambient-shoegaze laptop artist.[/b]
this seems like an oxymoron.
mayhaps i'll stay away... i prefer my shoegaze, well, not from a laptop.
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He plays keys too and at least one review I've read of his live show made it sound like he has a guitarist with him. But maybe that was a one-shot deal? I dunno.
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Ulrich is NOT pitchfork approved. Why would you guys bother to go? :eek:
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i hear he plays on a really sweet laptop. that's the main reason i'll be there (that, and the chance to spill beer on callat's black hoodie. the opportunity to meet azaghal would be a bonus).
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Originally posted by wanderlust j. marshmallow:
Ulrich is NOT pitchfork approved.
7.6 (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/21582-a-strangely-isolated-place), 6.9 (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/21583-far-away-trains-passing-by), 5.4 (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/44053-goodbye)... a little better than a "meh". but you're right, still not approved. brooklyn vegan (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/06/the_weekend_in_1.html) seem to approve him, tho.
pix (http://flickr.com/photos/redheadwalking/2059456724/in/set-72157602968337265/) (OMG, he totally does have a tricked out lappy... i made that shit up!)
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Will this be the most boardie-filled Snailhook show ever?
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He is playing Saturday night in Baltimore and they sell tickets at brownpapertickets.com
The venue is http://www.themetrogallery.net/ (http://www.themetrogallery.net/)
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Will this be the most boardie-filled Snailhook show ever?
quite possibly. i think the previous record was the DMBQ show, in the studio above the garage on Eye St NE. i could be wrong tho.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Will this be the most boardie-filled Snailhook show ever?
quite possibly. i think the previous record was the DMBQ show, in the studio above the garage on Eye St NE. i could be wrong tho. [/b]
Beirut may have topped this.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Will this be the most boardie-filled Snailhook show ever?
quite possibly. i think the previous record was the DMBQ show, in the studio above the garage on Eye St NE. i could be wrong tho. [/b]
Beirut may have topped this. [/b]
pretty close (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013682), we'll see what final turnout for friday is.
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How the hell did you do that?
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that was freaky :eek:
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I am a maybe for this Friday's Ulrich Schnauss show.
(It's not sold out, is it?)
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No advance tickets.
You'll probably have to get there early, though.
I'm thinking of showing up at around 8.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
I'm thinking of showing up at around 8.
Doors aren't until 9:30. You really think you're going to need to stand outside an hour and a half ahead of time?
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Ahh...thought they were earlier.
I'll get there at 8:30-9 then.
And downstairs will most likely be open at around 8 anyway.
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Review/pics of last night's free NYC show up on brooklynvegan.
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Any info on set times for Friday's show?
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Snailhook will probably post them but I think he's on tour w/ Kohoutek until tomorrow.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Review/pics of last night's free NYC show up on brooklynvegan.
would it really have killed you to include a link (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/06/whats_going_on_286.html)? you obviously had the page up in front of you... now dozens of people have to go through the motions of typing the url :p
people really seemed to be rawkin' out at the NYC show:
<img src="http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music/ulrichschnauss/wintergarden/030.jpg" alt=" - " />
per the comments section: at least one guy managed to get some oral sex in during the show (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music/ulrichschnauss/wintergarden/031.jpg)
Originally posted by Christine Moritz:
Any info on set times for Friday's show?
nothing other than what's on the velvet's website:
Friday 06.27.08
Ulrich Schnauss, Auburn Lull, Screen Vinyl Image, Luxa
Doors 9:30pm/Show 10pm/21+/ $10
4 acts starting at 10... it's going to be a late night.
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I thought about it but I had already closed the page.
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If all goes as planned, I'll be there for all 4 bands. Should be a good night.
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Trust me, as somebody that's worked at a small venue with an in house ticketing system, it can be a big hassle - you've got to train people on the system, you've got to be able to troubleshoot it late at night when something goes wrong, you have to have people that can take a ticket order by phone if the web system is down, etc etc.... I'm not saying it isn't worth doing, but I definitely understand why most venues of that size (IOTA/Velvet) don't want to deal with it.
Additionally - those services come with fees, which people complain about. For venues that are already operating on really slim margins, it doesn't make sense to add an additional cost so the few shows that might sell out in advance can benefit...[/b]
well said and exactly why we don't use a ticketing agency. we probably sell out once every three or four months, so it is not worth having advance tickets. it is too much of a pain to deal with and we are running a shoestring operation.
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i understand your position, but it just sucks for events like this ... i'm probably not going to be able to make it tonight because people i'm going out with won't be able to get there until 11pm or so ... there's no way to buy extra tickets at the door and pass them back when my friends get there, right?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
there's no way to buy extra tickets at the door and pass them back when my friends get there, right?
snailhook, please let us know if we can do something of the sort... maybe pay up front, and put the late-comers' names on the guestlist? (or any other list, assuming you have such lists for tonight).
i've told another boardie that i'd try pre-paying his entry, to secure a spot. would be nice to tell him ahead of time if he should even bother coming down. hoya, if there is any chance of us doing this, i'll be happy to "buy you a ticket"/"reserve your admission"/etc. alternately, i can text you later on and let you know if they're still letting people in (least desirable option, but better than nothing).
and maybe we're all just panicking for nothing. maybe this won't even sell out tonight.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
there's no way to buy extra tickets at the door and pass them back when my friends get there, right?
snailhook, please let us know if we can do something of the sort... maybe pay up front, and put the late-comers' names on the guestlist? (or any other list, assuming you have such lists for tonight).
i've told another boardie that i'd try pre-paying his entry, to secure a spot. would be nice to tell him ahead of time if he should even bother coming down. hoya, if there is any chance of us doing this, i'll be happy to "buy you a ticket"/"reserve your admission"/etc. alternately, i can text you later on and let you know if they're still letting people in (least desirable option, but better than nothing).
and maybe we're all just panicking for nothing. maybe this won't even sell out tonight. [/b]
that would be awesome, i'll give you a call/txt when we'd be able to make it down there
velvet holds like 150 people, it seems like 10% of tonight's crowd are on this board alone, and additionally the washpost covered it in their nightlife agenda column and BYT put it in their weekend picks column ... i'm really bad at predicting crowds, but i'd be surprised if this wasn't jam-packed
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all this for a guy and a laptop.
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yeah, but have you seen the laptop?!?
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guys, i understand your concern and sympathize, but there's not much i can do. we don't have physical tickets, so you can't buy one and pass it on, and you can't really reserve one either.
it's a shitty situation, but we deal with this maybe three or four times a year. sometimes sacrifices have to be made. i don't want to sound like an asshole, but i work way too much and get paid way too little to put even an iota of an effort into dealing with ticket agencies. it's an imperfect system and we have to deal with it.
the truth is ulrich schnauss should be playing a larger venue, but nobody else in town wanted to book him, so i did.
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Originally posted by snailhook:
i don't want to sound like an asshole
you don't. situation is completely understandable. thanks for the confirmation, appreciated.
hoya: if you're out and about during the evening, maybe you can run over to the velvet at some point, get your hand stamped and then return to your evening with friends? just a thought.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
hoya: if you're out and about during the evening, maybe you can run over to the velvet at some point, get your hand stamped and then return to your evening with friends? just a thought.
This is what I'm going to have to do. Check into hotel and eat post-paying for entry.
What time can we start paying? 8 or 9:30, snailhook? Also, settimes?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
velvet holds like 150 people
Really? I would have guessed about half that.
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arg. now one of my girl friends is saying i should go. i'm listening to this on myspace and it isn't awful...but it seems like it would translate better live.
set times would be really helpful at this point. i didn't want to be out too late tonight...
decisions, decisions.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
if you're out and about during the evening, maybe you can run over to the velvet at some point, get your hand stamped and then return to your evening with friends? just a thought.
I think I might try doing something of the sort too... am trying to juggle this show and another U Street event.
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looks like we have critical mass for a meet-up. i'll be there early, before the (upstairs) doors open, hanging out at the bar downstairs. i'll be wearing an army-green t-shirt with a tribal-y circular graphic on the front, and black cut-off pants/board shorts/whatever one calls knee-length pants nowadays. do come over and say hi.
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I'll be wearing a Clap Your Hands Say Yeah shirt, girl jeans, and Hugo Boss sneakers. I should be hard to miss!
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unfortunately, i won't even be around to deal with this show. i'm playing in baltimore tonight. my staff will deal with it as best as possible.
set times can be pretty loose at the lounge, due to when bands show up and soundcheck. hopefully, things will get started on time since it will be packed. this is a rough schedule:
luxa: 10-10:30
auburn lull: 10:50-11:30
screen vinyl image: 11:50-12:20
ulrich scnauss: 12:40-whenever
basically, expect ulrich to go on between 12:30 and 1.
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How did last night's United Bible Studies set stack up against the others from this week/last weekend?
I thought last night's started a bit slow but quickly got much better and ended awesomely.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by snailhook:
i don't want to sound like an asshole
you don't. situation is completely understandable. thanks for the confirmation, appreciated.
hoya: if you're out and about during the evening, maybe you can run over to the velvet at some point, get your hand stamped and then return to your evening with friends? just a thought. [/b]
that's not a bad idea ... but the real problem is getting people in who won't be able to show up until 11 or so, we'll see.....
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How did last night's United Bible Studies set stack up against the others from this week/last weekend?[/b]
like kohoutek, every UBS set is different, though they improvise around and alter many folk songs. i have sat in with them for most of the dates but not all, and my drumming has been vastly different every time.
i liked the set last night, but i had not played on either of the first two songs before (we didn't rehearse them at soundcheck), so i might have been slightly off. the last piece was an improv, so naturally i felt more compatible with what they were doing.
my favorite UBS sets so far were in bloomington (probably the heaviest set), terrastock, and charlottesville.
you need to hear the set kohoutek did in chapel hill. i asked the harpist and the guitarist in UBS to sit in with us and we played a g major drone that reminded me of popul vuh (i played chord organ and light percussion). one of the best things we've ever done.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
looks like we have critical mass for a meet-up. i'll be there early, before the (upstairs) doors open, hanging out at the bar downstairs. i'll be wearing an army-green t-shirt with a tribal-y circular graphic on the front, and black cut-off pants/board shorts/whatever one calls knee-length pants nowadays. do come over and say hi.
Will look for you.
So (upstairs) doors are at 9:30, right? Hmm... I guess I'll aim to get there 8:30-9ish.
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Yes, as Snailhook said, sometimes a little extra effort has to be put into attending an in-demand show. I've got some friends who already left Virginia Beach to attend this show and I'll be departing from Baltimore soon. This is one of those shows that's not just for the local yokels.
For what it's worth, Ulrich is not the only act worth catching. I'm in for all 4 bands. Looking forward to each and every one of them.
See you all there.
Snail, I'm very disappointed that I won't see you but hope to soon enough. Glad we had a good chat the other week.
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music about to start. only letting in another 25 people.
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executive summary: amazing music tonight, the enjoyment of which was pretty much ruined by the sound system.
way-too-long version:
we collectively psyched ourselves out about getting there before doors opened... i walked in at 9:10, and there were maybe 5 other people in the bar. nice to finally meet ms. moritz and jaguar. spent most of the evening with julian, miss p, and her associated roller-derby hangers-on.
luxa kicked things off around 10:45 - the bands were having issues during soundcheck, more on that in a minute. i really liked what luxa played, the edge-type delayed guitar over laptop-driven beat and pads for the most part. the third song that they tried playing had some Kid A/Amnesiac-type glitchy goodness as the backing track, but the band couldn't lock in - the monitor mix was horrible, so they stopped everything and made some mix change requests to the sound guy (not the first ones, mind your). whoever was doing sound seemed unable to do much, their second attempt at the song was abandoned as well. their fourth song started off real nice... but a minute in, 2 of the four people on stage threw down their instrument and gave up. apparently everything was coming through distorted to the point of being incomprehensible. the remaining two members tried valiantly to finish the song, but they eventually apologized and called it a night a few minutes later. bummer, 'cause i was really digging their music.
auburn lull and screen vinyl image was more of the same, although they both soldiered on and finished their sets. AL started out a little stronger than they finished. SVI was an amorphous but blissful sonic wash, the drummer (the only one of the night) was quite impressive. some of their music had a sigur ros'ish quality to it.
ulrich schnauss' set was beautiful. not quite sure how to describe it, he did quite a bit of genre jumping. IDM? neo-tangerine dream? electro dream-gaze? yes, i'm dancing for architecture here. but again, the sound was impeding on my ability to enjoy the show. the volume at this point was ear-splitting. luckily my faithful etymotics cut down some of the high-end distortion. more than one person left the room because it was too grating on the ears - and it wasn't thrash metal that was coming out of the PA, it was dreamy soundscapes. ulrich suffered from what i've christened "the velvet curse". because things ran so late, the crowd started to thin out before the headliner took the stage. he went on at 1:45, hard to expect 100% participation at the end of a work-week. ear-drum-piercing sound didn't help. buy the end of his set, around 2:30-2:40, the room was about a third full.
i really enjoyed all the music that was on offer tonight, or at least what versions of it made it past the PA. i'd definitely go see any one of these bands again. they did a test after ulrich left the stage, and the left speaker was shot. sound-man probably had to compensate by cranking up the right side all night long... = distortion. everyone has good nights and bad nights... unfortunately this wasn't a good one for the velvet's PA.
i sincerely hope we get a chance to hear these bands again. thanks for bringing them to DC, snailhook!
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amazing night. thank you snailhook, for everything.
what was the name of the 3rd band? auburn lull or screen vinyl image? (I keep getting their names mixed up).
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Yeah, this was an accurate summation of everything.
It was the first of my many trips to the Velvet where sound was a major issue. I definitely noticed that the left channel was either shot or getting there early on in the night and by Ulrich's set (which was beautiful from start to finish), there was little more than static coming out of there. Screen Vinyl Image's set sounded good from where I was standing but the monitors could've been a different story.
The show going as late as it did is about par for the course for the Velvet so I wasn't as phased by that as most seemed to be.
Oh and SVI played second while AL were the third act.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
executive summary: amazing music tonight, the enjoyment of which was pretty much ruined by the sound system.
way-too-long version:
we collectively psyched ourselves out about getting there before doors opened... i walked in at 9:10, and there were maybe 5 other people in the bar. nice to finally meet ms. moritz and jaguar. spent most of the evening with julian, miss p, and her associated roller-derby hangers-on.
luxa kicked things off around 10:45 - the bands were having issues during soundcheck, more on that in a minute. i really liked what luxa played, the edge-type delayed guitar over laptop-driven beat and pads for the most part. the third song that they tried playing had some Kid A/Amnesiac-type glitchy goodness as the backing track, but the band couldn't lock in - the monitor mix was horrible, so they stopped everything and made some mix change requests to the sound guy (not the first ones, mind your). whoever was doing sound seemed unable to do much, their second attempt at the song was abandoned as well. their fourth song started off real nice... but a minute in, 2 of the four people on stage threw down their instrument and gave up. apparently everything was coming through distorted to the point of being incomprehensible. the remaining two members tried valiantly to finish the song, but they eventually apologized and called it a night a few minutes later. bummer, 'cause i was really digging their music.
auburn lull and screen vinyl image was more of the same, although they both soldiered on and finished their sets. AL started out a little stronger than they finished. SVI was an amorphous but blissful sonic wash, the drummer (the only one of the night) was quite impressive. some of their music had a sigur ros'ish quality to it.
ulrich schnauss' set was beautiful. not quite sure how to describe it, he did quite a bit of genre jumping. IDM? neo-tangerine dream? electro dream-gaze? yes, i'm dancing for architecture here. but again, the sound was impeding on my ability to enjoy the show. the volume at this point was ear-splitting. luckily my faithful etymotics cut down some of the high-end distortion. more than one person left the room because it was too grating on the ears - and it wasn't thrash metal that was coming out of the PA, it was dreamy soundscapes. ulrich suffered from what i've christened "the velvet curse". because things ran so late, the crowd started to thin out before the headliner took the stage. he went on at 1:45, hard to expect 100% participation at the end of a work-week. ear-drum-piercing sound didn't help. buy the end of his set, around 2:30-2:40, the room was about a third full.
i really enjoyed all the music that was on offer tonight, or at least what versions of it made it past the PA. i'd definitely go see any one of these bands again. they did a test after ulrich left the stage, and the left speaker was shot. sound-man probably had to compensate by cranking up the right side all night long... = distortion. everyone has good nights and bad nights... unfortunately this wasn't a good one for the velvet's PA.
i sincerely hope we get a chance to hear these bands again. thanks for bringing them to DC, snailhook!
Nice to finally meet you, Jaguar! And I think I met Sweetcell or someone else with the same first name. We may have met at Yeasayer too?
Good to see that you were able to make it in, Lancha.
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Anyone who missed out or looking for another run of this line up, they are playing tonight in Baltimore at The Metro Gallery. I promised a friend of mine, who coincidently happens to be another roller derby queen along with Miss P, that I would go tonight. Oddly, this gal was introduced to me by Ulrich the last time he was in town with M83. She and I have a mutual friend in London who also happens to be good friends and business associates with Ulrich. My circles continue to merge!
Then after the show, one of the guys from the 1st band, Luxa, offered to put me on the guest list for tonight. I've known this guy for a several years now and he's one of the guys who was involved with one of the radio stations that use to carry my old show, The Trans-Atlantic Underground. Last night was the first we've actually met. So, it's either do or die. Actually, I'm looking forward to the show since I really like all 4 bands.
Not much to add that wasn't already mentioned other than that Ulrich was so much better last night than when he opened for M83. Much fuller landscapes. Everything just came off so much better, short of the buggy PA. In fact, I thought that when he played the Black Cat, some of his songs were just a bit out of tune and/or synch. He had it together last night and it was beautiful.
Regarding the sound for the entire night, in general, if you used your selective hearing, the show wasn't as bad as it seems based on reading only but the PA did have it's faults which made it a bit less than a stellar night. I really felt sorry for Sam since it was obvious that some of this was out of his control. Just a shame that it had to happen on such a good night.
Julian, did I meet you? I don't remember doing so and I was looking for you. Was happy to finally meet Azaghal, Christine, Sweetcell and Miss P. (I hope I didn't leave anyone out.) I really love meeting people from my cyber life. Seems to solidify things more. Also, when attending shows in DC, I usually end up having to go alone not having like minded music friends up here. Once I get to the shows, when I know a good number of people, I don't get that alone in a crowd feeling. It's more like meeting up with friends at a party.
One other observation on the negative side: All the damned chatty women! From my vantage point, there were several women who would not STF UP during the performances. Very annoying, especially for someone like Auburn Lull. Either learn some show etiquette or stay home. Guess that's what happens as your niche favorites start catching on to the masses.
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if i didn't already have plans, i'd absolutely go to b'more for the show tonight. i'd love to hear these bands again, it's a great line-up.
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Oh and SVI played second while AL were the third act.
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And I think I met Sweetcell or someone else with the same first name. We may have met at Yeasayer too?
SVI was before AL? huh. guess they reversed the order... i don't know either band well enough to recognize their songs, so i'll take your word for it.
yeah, that was me, nice to meet you (again - yes to yeasayer). when we chatted, it occurred to me for a second that you might be azaghal... but i thought it too much a long-shot. next time!
Originally posted by Jaguar:
One other observation on the negative side: All the damned chatty women! From my vantage point, there were several women who would not STF UP during the performances. Very annoying, especially for someone like Auburn Lull. Either learn some show etiquette or stay home. Guess that's what happens as your niche favorites start catching on to the masses.
yeah, the talkers were a real annoyance last night. during ulrich's set, i noticed those two over-dressed chatty-catties beside you. loved their rave-dancing BFs too :roll:
my biggest issue were the two douches by the back "bar" who yelled at each other for the duration of the show. they did not stop their conversation all night long. they had little interest in the music... my take is that shows like these are hyped by boards like this one, by newspapers, by blogs, etc and the show takes on an aura, that it's the in thing that night, you need to be there. but what happens when a person realizes that the hype doesn't match their expectations or preferences? ideally you give it a shot, or just leave. unfortunately, i think some people stick it out while trying to entertain themselves the best they can - by conversation. "what the hell, the music sucks anyways, i'm not listening so probably no one else is!". besides, they're usually to drunk to take much notice of their surroundings.
GRRRRRR. i guess i should partially blame myself for not going over and asking them to shut up or go somewhere else. yeay, blame the victim.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
if i didn't already have plans, i'd absolutely go to b'more for the show tonight. i'd love to hear these bands again, it's a great line-up.
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Oh, too bad. Would be nice to see you again tonight. Hopefully soon but I can't get out as much as I use to. You should go to the Mahogany show on Thursday at the Black Cat. Similiar music. I'd love to go but it's highly unlikely I'll be able to go. Work sucks ass.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
SVI was before AL? huh. guess they reversed the order... i don't know either band well enough to recognize their songs, so i'll take your word for it.
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Yeap. It was definitely Luxa/SVI/AL/Ulrich. SVI are 2 ex-members of Alcian Blue and Auburn Lull are very sleepy ambient Gazers akin to Hammock. All of these bands have been airing on Air Atlantic since the station went on the air now except Luxa who will be up there shortly.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
yeah, the talkers were a real annoyance last night. during ulrich's set, i noticed those two over-dressed chatty-catties beside you. loved their rave-dancing BFs too :roll:
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Yeah, that was them!!! :mad: Actually, I really enjoyed watching one of the rave dancing guys. The man had ryhthm, style and obviously understood the music. Oh, and the guy knew how to dance and fist pump without poking your eye out with his elbow. Now, if they just leave the ladies at home for these kinds of shows.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
my biggest issue were the two douches by the back "bar" who yelled at each other for the duration of the show. they did not stop their conversation all night long. they had little interest in the music... my take is that shows like these are hyped by boards like this one, by newspapers, by blogs, etc and the show takes on an aura, that it's the in thing that night, you need to be there. but what happens when a person realizes that the hype doesn't match their expectations or preferences? ideally you give it a shot, or just leave. unfortunately, i think some people stick it out while trying to entertain themselves the best they can - by conversation. "what the hell, the music sucks anyways, i'm not listening so probably no one else is!". besides, they're usually to drunk to take much notice of their surroundings.
GRRRRRR. i guess i should partially blame myself for not going over and asking them to shut up or go somewhere else. yeay, blame the victim.
See, my take on this is that there are 2 kinds of show goers. One goes for the party and the people. The others go for the music. These are the serious music lovers. Unfortunately, that's not always a good mix. I do agree with you regarding the hype of the boards and such but that's the price everyone pays for fame.
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which kind is sweetcell? hahaha. i kid i kid.
Originally posted by Jaguar:
See, my take on this is that there are 2 kinds of show goers. One goes for the party and the people. The others go for the music. These are the serious music lovers. Unfortunately, that's not always a good mix. I do agree with you regarding the hype of the boards and such but that's the price everyone pays for fame.
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Mahogany are dreamy :) And they are opening for Lorelei!
Originally posted by Jaguar:
You should go to the Mahogany show on Thursday at the Black Cat. Similiar music. I'd love to go but it's highly unlikely I'll be able to go. Work sucks ass.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Yeah, that was them!!! :mad: Actually, I really enjoyed watching one of the rave dancing guys. The man had ryhthm, style and obviously understood the music. Oh, and the guy knew how to dance and fist pump without poking your eye out with his elbow. Now, if they just leave the ladies at home for these kinds of shows.
you might have been looking at me. I was in a brown t-shirt and have a curly fro, and I was doing a small bit of dancing. I was to the left of the two ladies who were into it. They kept taking pictures of themselves every 30 seconds, it was quite odd.
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Originally posted by lancha:
I was to the left of the two ladies who were into it. They kept taking pictures of themselves every 30 seconds, it was quite odd. [/QB]
Oh my god...
Are the BYT people invading Snailhook's shows?
Noooooooooooo!
What next? "Hey look at me! I was there!" pics from 611?
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
executive summary: amazing music tonight, the enjoyment of which was pretty much ruined by the sound system.
way-too-long version:
words words words
That's just great. You'll write a novella about a guy whose name calls to mind a Metallica nasal cavity, but nay one word on the Butthole Surfers? Priorities, man!
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
That's just great. You'll write a novella about a guy whose name calls to mind a Metallica nasal cavity, but nay one word on the Butthole Surfers? Priorities, man!
wow, someone asking me to post more... that's got to be a first :)
i didn't write anything about the surfers because i had nothing new to offer. everyone said what i was going to say: fun energetic show, kids were interesting but a tad distracting, and i really could have done without the gross-out projections or the 15-minute noise-jam that ended the show. happy now?
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Saturday's show in Baltimore blew away Friday's show. Very happy I went. First off, I'm now a convert to the virtues of the Metro Gallery. Use to avoid the place because all the glass caused the sound to suck. They've worked around that, built a stage and tweaked the system and it's now about on par with your average smaller venue. Cool location. Still don't have a liquor license yet but they have a small variety of beers, wines and mixed drinks they give you for donations. You just drop whatever you want into the till. If that's not to your liking, you can bring your own booze. Supposedly, someone brought a whole keg to some other show! Of course, this is until their liquor license comes through. (Secretly hoping that takes forever! LOL)
Each of the bands played pretty much the same sets as on Friday except I think SVI's was a bit different. All sounded much better. In fact, SVI was the best I've ever heard them. I overheard someone else saying the same thing.
Besides the sound being much better, the Baltimore audience got treated to a little something extra that didn't happen on Friday. After the show, I was hanging around talking to various friends. Almost everyone had cleared out of the place and I too was just about ready to do the same until something totally out of the blue happened. Jake from SVI, Ulrich, most of the guys from Auburn Lull and Andy from Luxa got up on stage and provided us with a totally impromtu jam session. Quite a nice treat. In a few days, I should have a video link for this since The Metro is hiring Paradox Studios (I think that's their name) to film all of their shows. My battery died during my filming so I'll just wait for theirs. Besides, they have much better equipment.
-> Relaxer: Noses smell better than Buttholes. ;)
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Julian, did I meet you? I don't remember doing so and I was looking for you. Was happy to finally meet Azaghal, Christine, Sweetcell and Miss P.
We did not. I was informed yourself and DJ Moritz were in the building, but no one pointed either of you out. Oh well.
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social connections fail :(
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It was nice to meet Sweetcell, Miss P, Jaguar, and Guy Chadwick's Angry Neighbor.
I would've liked to have met Azaghal, Julian, and the other boardies who were apparently there. :( Ah well... maybe next time.
I believe was at the venue before anyone else (8:15, before the downstairs bar even officially opened!). I hung out until about 10, got my handstamp, and left for my other engagement of the evening.
I came back around midnight, in time to catch the third band and Ulrich Schnauss. I liked the show all right, but was too sleepy to enjoy it properly. Plus I think Ulrich is a bit more on the ambient side of the music spectrum than I prefer.
Anyways, I was glad I checked this one out.
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Originally posted by Christine Moritz:
Guy Chadwick's Angry Neighbor.
was that him handing out flyers outside, after the show? just as i was walking away, i thought i heard someone mention "we fought the big one", but was too tired to go back in investigate.
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Yes, it was. I was going to introduce you inside when he arrived but then either you walked away or conversations led us all elsewhere. The same guy who came up and talked to me before we went upstairs and were all standing around chatting.
Hoya, did you ever make it? If my source is correct, I heard they were turning people away later on.
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hoya was not there on friday. and they did turn people away - the show sold out during luxa's set. i confirmed this with the doorman, as i had received several inquiries from boardees wanting to know if they should bother coming down - hoya among them.
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yeah i was out with a bunch of people on friday, just wasn't going to work ... oh well, next time ...
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Hey gang,
First off, Christine, it was nice to meet you too. Hope I get a chance to hear you spin sometime soon.
I did review Friday's show for BYT. You can check that out here: http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/live-dc/mega-shoegaze-extravaganza/ (http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/live-dc/mega-shoegaze-extravaganza/)
Thanks!
Rick
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Originally posted by Guy Chadwick's angry neighbor:
I did review Friday's show for BYT. You can check that out here: http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/live-dc/mega-shoegaze-extravaganza/ (http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/live-dc/mega-shoegaze-extravaganza/)
from the comments section:
i was the soundperson on duty at the velvet lounge. the irony of the situation is that we upgraded parts of our pa especially for this weekend. our high frequency driver on the left side blew out during ulrichâ??s soundcheck. this issue wasnâ??t caused by extreme levels from ulrich or from the soundboard end. the delay was caused by us trying to resolve this problem before we started the show. the monitoring issues during luxa were caused by poor communication in the heat of the moment. i feel awful that it affected their performance as iâ??m a fan of their music and a friend of andy. i was looking forward to friday ever since i found out it was going to happen at the velvet lounge. it was seriously like a dream show for someone like me. and i did try my darndest to make sure everything went smoothly despite a lot of freaking out early on due to the blown speaker. we still donâ??t know what caused the crackle and the smell of burning sulphur during the last bit of ulrichâ??s set as no additional speakers were blown during his set and no signals were clipping at any point in our set up. perhaps his sonic alchemy translates into physical alchemy. in any case, we did fix our blown tweeter in time for the silver apples on saturday. simeon was very happy with the way things sounded and it made up in a small way for the multiple blows of friday. as one of the people responsible for our pa i offer my apologies and respect the patience of the bands and audience members.
i sympathize with what this person wrote, he was definitely put in a rough spot, but i wonder about "the monitoring issues during luxa were caused by poor communication in the heat of the moment". the band made it very clear what the monitoring problems were... when someone points at laptop + energetically points at the floor = turn down the laptop. point at singer with one hand and point towards ceiling with other = turn up the vocals. obviously there were issues aplenty, but i'm not sure how the band could have been any clearer about what they needed. speaking with the band afterwards, they (politely) complained that nothing was changing in their monitor mix, despite their gesticulations.